I've stickied this as it will only be a matter of time before we are linked with everyone who Houllier ever signed.
I would bet money that we see our first link to Djibril Cissé within two weeks.
I wanted Owen when he went to Manchester United.
I now admit I was very, very wrong.
It's only September mind!
A fit michael owen would score more goals for us than gabby or Carew , owen is a prolific finisher a d we have lacked that for years, maybe on a pay as you play basis ?
I've stickied this as it will only be a matter of time before we are linked with everyone who Houllier ever signed.
I would bet money that we see our first link to Djibril Cissé within two weeks.
Providing it's not:
*Florent Sinama Pongolle
*Anthony Le Tallec
*Bruno Cheyrou
*Titi Camara
*Erik Meijer
*Rigobert Song
*Sean Dundee
*Djimi Traore
*Peggy Arphixad
*Gregory Vignal
*Igor Biscan
* El Hadj Diouf
*Salif Diao
I can probably live with it.
Third choice there isn't he? behind Sergio Aguero and Forlan.No, he was but was sold to Sporting Lisbon. Who then loaned him to Real Zaragoza.
A fit michael owen would score more goals for us than gabby or Carew , owen is a prolific finisher a d we have lacked that for years, maybe on a pay as you play basis ?
A loan move for January-May might be a good move. Same salary, assess his fitness and in the unlikely event that he proves his fitness and gets amongst the goals we sign him on a free transfer in the summer.
The thing is, as little as he's played at United - when he does start he scores more often than not.
The areas we need to improve in are still in the midfield. Gabby's an excellent lone striker, Carew, the Fonz and a fit Weimann all offer us something different. The fact remains that we still don't create enough bullets for the strikers to fire, so we still need to improve in that year.My concern is that two of those four are totally unproven at Premier League level. If Gabby were to get injured we'd instantly look very light in attack, in my view.
The areas we need to improve in are still in the midfield. Gabby's an excellent lone striker, Carew, the Fonz and a fit Weimann all offer us something different. The fact remains that we still don't create enough bullets for the strikers to fire, so we still need to improve in that year.My concern is that two of those four are totally unproven at Premier League level. If Gabby were to get injured we'd instantly look very light in attack, in my view.
The Fonz and Weimann are two players to give chances to here and there, off the bench preferably if we're doing well. I don't think they're ready to be relied upon as regular goalscorers for the first team, in the absence of either / both Gabby or Carew.
ETA - I don't think Owen is the answer to that problem though.
The thing is, as little as he's played at United - when he does start he scores more often than not.
And how many chances to we create in comparison to Man Utd?
The areas we need to improve in are still in the midfield. Gabby's an excellent lone striker, Carew, the Fonz and a fit Weimann all offer us something different. The fact remains that we still don't create enough bullets for the strikers to fire, so we still need to improve in that year.
One thing is for sure we will not be signing any English/British players in Jan.
Did GH have Benzema at Lyon?
If we can pay Harewood 30k to never play and Beye 40k to never play and Heskey 55k to sit on the bench,Would a better use of that £40k be a better, younger striker to come and score many more goals in our first team though?
Then we can sure as hell pay Micheal Owen 40k to come and score goals of the bench!
Has Flamini been involved in Milan's opening games does anyone know? I wonder if he has an opinion on Houllier or has any experience of how he works .
This is just lazy journalism.
Just like when MON joined we were linked with anyone that played with him at Leicester or Celtic.
Like Petrov, Maloney, Sutton, Heskey...
Oh...
I know there aren't that many of them at the moment, but can't we sign someone French and good? Youri Gourcuff will do..
Can't wait to see what defensive midfielder Houllier will sign. Someone of Hamann's ilk would be good. Really solid but with a good range of passing and the ability spank in a long ranger.that has cheered me up no end...
I would be certain Houll's will be in the market for such a player.
Can't wait to see what defensive midfielder Houllier will sign. Someone of Hamann's ilk would be good. Really solid but with a good range of passing and the ability spank in a long ranger.that has cheered me up no end...
I would be certain Houll's will be in the market for such a player.
If we can pay Harewood 30k to never play and Beye 40k to never play and Heskey 55k to sit on the bench,
Then we can sure as hell pay Micheal Owen 40k to come and score goals of the bench!
Has Flamini been involved in Milan's opening games does anyone know? I wonder if he has an opinion on Houllier or has any experience of how he works .
Flamimi hasn't played in the first two games wasn't on the bench either.
The thing is, as little as he's played at United - when he does start he scores more often than not.
And how many chances to we create in comparison to Man Utd?
The areas we need to improve in are still in the midfield. Gabby's an excellent lone striker, Carew, the Fonz and a fit Weimann all offer us something different. The fact remains that we still don't create enough bullets for the strikers to fire, so we still need to improve in that year.
I would actually say we are covered in the creative department now.
Ash, Downing, Albrighton and Ireland.
Find a way of getting just three out of that four firing and we'll be hard to contain. The problem we face is finding the right balance top get the best out of those talents which is where a genuine DM/ CM comes in.
Petrov is a tidy player, even capable of imaginative passing with the shackles off. But all too often his remit is to not give the ball away at any cost, so he has to play the most risk free passes he can.
I like NRC, like what he can bring to the side. He has qualities and athleticism that none of our other midfielders can provide. But his limitations in other areas are well documented. And he is most likely on his way out at the end of the campaign anyway, when he runs his contract down. Personally I have no issue with that, as he hasn't always been given a fair crack of the whip.
But the onus is on us to source a replacement, someone who can do all the good things NRC brings to the table but also has a decent degree of control and technical ability too. I'm not taking about an Essien-type player - with wages and transfer fees to match. Rather a Diame, Alou Diarra or Sissoko-type.
That and one top class forward (not Owen) and we'd be in really good shape.
Whats der big oidea with this 25 man squad caper?
I assume that any players signed in Jan would actually be eligible to play, otherwise there would be very little point.
Do sides have to name an updated 25 man list in Feb?
I'm not saying I would like us to go for Owen, but for those saying about the lackof creativity, a half fit Michael Owen (which is a mis-nomer I know) would have had a hat-trick last night.
Vila for life: you're talking about replacing the player we just sold to Man City aren't you? :)
Know what you mean about players you can identify with and I agree but I think there's enough industry in the team. We need a killer instinct up front and to settle on a system of playing a midfield containing the many decent options we have in there I reckon.
I just want someone who will run their socks off for 93 minutes...never give up on a fifty fifty ball, the kind of player who is skillful yet hard working and someone who fans can have an affinity with.
Given, Flamini and Owen in Jan would be excellent IMO - all 3 would be good additions in different ways.
yes, olneythelonely, he's the one who I have a "soft spot" for at the moment. Decent player and proud to play for Aston Villa.
Given, Flamini and Owen in Jan would be excellent IMO - all 3 would be good additions in different ways.
Given, Flamini and Owen in Jan would be excellent IMO - all 3 would be good additions in different ways.
By all accounts he wasn't hugely impressed with him at Liverpool. .
According to french paper Le Perisien. Duverne has been appointed as Aston Villa`s new fitness coach. Certainly hope he has no say in the "motivational" side after watching the french side in the world cup ......................having a go at the french players for being wankers and refusing to play, isnt a bad thing...
According to french paper Le Perisien. Duverne has been appointed as Aston Villa`s new fitness coach. Certainly hope he has no say in the "motivational" side after watching the french side in the world cup ......................having a go at the french players for being wankers and refusing to play, isnt a bad thing...
Here: http://bit.ly/bFVyHP should you fancy a read.
Really don't agree with the "may as well" "got nothing to lose" stance towards signing Owen.
MON probably thought that when he signed Heskey for a nominal fee, but it's about the "opportunity cost" of the signing, i.e. the delay in then signing a "proper" striker, or the chances for younger strikers already at the club to come through.
Apparently Spurs and Liverpool are looking at a young Dutch striker who made his debut in the World Cup. 21 years old, 12 goals in 9 starts this season - Ricky van Wolfswinkel.
Apparently Spurs and Liverpool are looking at a young Dutch striker who made his debut in the World Cup. 21 years old, 12 goals in 9 starts this season - Ricky van Wolfswinkel.
What a fantastic name.
I seem to have a recurrent nightmare about us signing Owen and playing a 4-4-2 with him and Heskey. It almost seems to be written in the stars.
Michael Owen would be a brilliant signing, as would Darren Anderton.
He could be the replacement for Ginola we've been crying out for.
Michael Owen would be a brilliant signing, as would Darren Anderton.
He could be the replacement for Ginola we've been crying out for.
I hear Des Walker is available
Aston Villa FC: The place where big-name footballers go to die.
I thought we'd shrugged of that image a while ago.
It's not a stage I want to revisit again anytime soon.
I know it's easier said than done, but we should be looking to sign good young players on the way up rather than older players on the way down.
We're not good enough to sniff at signing Owen I'm affraid.
The one thing we all agree we lack is a natural finisher. Well, here's one for sure.
O.K, he's past his best and is injury prone. I'm sure any deal would reflect that. This is the guy, or one of them, that cost us a cup win last season remember and all because he gets a chance, one chance maybe, and finishes it. Had we such a player, we would have arguably won another 6 points this season so far and hammered West Ham 10-0.
Yes, by all means lets have a look at longer term targets too. In the meantime, Owen would be very welcome by my reckoning.
And certainly not playing with Heskey. Hopefully he does one a.s.a.p.
Wonder if Houllier would be able to persuade Lassana Diarra to move? Type of player we are crying out for in Midfield.I thought about that, where is he now and is he a realistic target?
Wonder if Houllier would be able to persuade Lassana Diarra to move? Type of player we are crying out for in Midfield.
I thought he'd left them? Does he play much. Maybe it is a bit pie in the sky. On the subject of Owen, i think it'd be a great buy and i dont think its unrealistic, the experiance he can give to players like Wiemann. And the fact he takes every chance which is what we really need
I doubt he could convince him to move from Real Madrid, and it'd be a lot of money.
Given can leave Citeh in Jan 2011, I would love it, love it if we went in for him. See linkArsenal will be first in the queue.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_city/9014139.stm
I think it is safe to assume that we're not going to be in a position to pay Shay Given's wages. Not that we need to, the form of Friedel mean that there are far more pressing concerns that goalie.
I think it is safe to assume that we're not going to be in a position to pay Shay Given's wages. Not that we need to, the form of Friedel mean that there are far more pressing concerns that goalie.
You might have said the same about Ireland, but he got a pay off from Man City and signed for us. It's mainly due to the players desire to play football, which I think Given has, so It may be a possibility.
I agree it's not a priority, but I've always said summer 2011 is when we'll need to either promote Guzan or sign a new number 1, so if he's available in Jan it might be worth jumping the gun a bit!
Given would represent the next 10 years of solid goalkeeping
I'm still not sure whether Guzan will make it or not. So in the meantime I would rather get a long term number 1 who doesnt have question marks hanging over him. Some of you are saying its not a priority. Presumably then you will be comfortable with Guzan stepping in if anything happens to Friedel.
I wouldn't panic as such, but a long term top keeper would be up one of the first three things I'd do, say. After new class defensive midfielder and striker. Then it would be new keeper and fullback cover.
Without knowing the figures involved I'm assuming that as Given was a signing rather than a youth prouduct and senior pro not a youngster he would be on significantly more than Ireland was. If we're in the business of trimming the wage bill then he's probably out of our range at the moment.Without going back to check his exact words, but didn't the General say that they would bring players in (on high wages) if it made sense, or something along those lines? I can envisage them seeing a longer-term replacement for Brad making sense.
QuoteGiven would represent the next 10 years of solid goalkeeping
assuming he plays until he's 45
I'm still not sure whether Guzan will make it or not. So in the meantime I would rather get a long term number 1 who doesnt have question marks hanging over him. Some of you are saying its not a priority. Presumably then you will be comfortable with Guzan stepping in if anything happens to Friedel.
I wouldn't panic as such, but a long term top keeper would be up one of the first three things I'd do, say. After new class defensive midfielder and striker. Then it would be new keeper and fullback cover.
You know the youth team as well as anyone Maz - don't we have a young lad who could be top class (Ben Siegerst I think)? I would have thought it best to get a year or two more out of Brad until he's ready rather than buying someone who could only stand in his way.
QuoteGiven would represent the next 10 years of solid goalkeeping
assuming he plays until he's 45
Bloody hell. I thought he was 30-31 for some reason. Ok 5 years of solid keeping
Runs off before I make a bigger tool of myself..
I reckon we should have a punt on that Jermain Beckford fella, he's unproven at this level but you've gotta take a chance sometimes.
I'll probably get shot for this, but I wouldn't mind having Lucas if he were available. People in Brazil rate him as a real all-round midfielder who isn't being allowed to do as well as he could at Liverpool because of their stifling tactics. Statistically I believe his pass completion and tackling is right up there, and he was also known in Brazil for breaking late into the penalty area to score. If he could combine the two games he might be the player we need.
I'll probably get shot for this, but I wouldn't mind having Lucas if he were available. People in Brazil rate him as a real all-round midfielder who isn't being allowed to do as well as he could at Liverpool because of their stifling tactics. Statistically I believe his pass completion and tackling is right up there, and he was also known in Brazil for breaking late into the penalty area to score. If he could combine the two games he might be the player we need.
I'll probably get shot for this, but I wouldn't mind having Lucas if he were available. People in Brazil rate him as a real all-round midfielder who isn't being allowed to do as well as he could at Liverpool because of their stifling tactics. Statistically I believe his pass completion and tackling is right up there, and he was also known in Brazil for breaking late into the penalty area to score. If he could combine the two games he might be the player we need.
Let me just pop out to the shed and get the gun. The wall is over there....
I'll probably get shot for this, but I wouldn't mind having Lucas if he were available. People in Brazil rate him as a real all-round midfielder who isn't being allowed to do as well as he could at Liverpool because of their stifling tactics. Statistically I believe his pass completion and tackling is right up there, and he was also known in Brazil for breaking late into the penalty area to score. If he could combine the two games he might be the player we need.
You sound like a concise John Blackwell and I claim my 93.03 Norwegian Krone.
I'll probably get shot for this, but I wouldn't mind having Lucas if he were available. People in Brazil rate him as a real all-round midfielder who isn't being allowed to do as well as he could at Liverpool because of their stifling tactics. Statistically I believe his pass completion and tackling is right up there, and he was also known in Brazil for breaking late into the penalty area to score. If he could combine the two games he might be the player we need.
Let me just pop out to the shed and get the gun. The wall is over there....
Remember, Richard, two shots in quick succession, just to be sure.
I'll probably get shot for this, but I wouldn't mind having Lucas if he were available. People in Brazil rate him as a real all-round midfielder who isn't being allowed to do as well as he could at Liverpool because of their stifling tactics. Statistically I believe his pass completion and tackling is right up there, and he was also known in Brazil for breaking late into the penalty area to score. If he could combine the two games he might be the player we need.
Let me just pop out to the shed and get the gun. The wall is over there....
Remember, Richard, two shots in quick succession, just to be sure.
I'm saving the second one for Lucas himself...
Owen just scored for utd. Clinical finish .........Shola Ameobi scored twice against Chelsea.
From various reports, I've heard that Lucas is a world beater in training and when he is with the national team. Apparantly he gets really nervous before games and doesn't play to his natural ability.From what I've heard..and seen he's fucking useless. I'm suprised O'Neill didn't try to sign him.
From various reports, I've heard that Lucas is a world beater in training and when he is with the national team. Apparantly he gets really nervous before games and doesn't play to his natural ability.
Monty, that's a shocker. Lucas is absolute bollocks.
Well Sneijder is pissed off at Inter. They won't give him a super duper new contract after he's been there a whole year. So if we could stump up about £20 mill and £120k a week, plus a 7 figured signing on fee our midfield problems will be sorted.
I can see Montys point. The move to Liverpool was off the back of being Brazilian player of the year for Gremio. He reminds me very much of Petrov to be honest. There is a very good player in there somewhere, I would suggest that its not the position he plays thats the problem, more the pace of the game here.
Monty, that's a shocker. Lucas is absolute bollocks.
what he said. You've made some solid contributions of late Monty. That ain't one of them. Retract that quick and blame on drink or pot or something.
Dont sweat it mate. I got a bit of shit for suggesting a year or two ago that we should buy Andy Carroll and Tom Huddlestone. I think most would say they'd be good players here now.
Dont sweat it mate. I got a bit of shit for suggesting a year or two ago that we should buy Andy Carroll and Tom Huddlestone. I think most would say they'd be good players here now.
Carroll still has an awful lot to prove.
Dont sweat it mate. I got a bit of shit for suggesting a year or two ago that we should buy Andy Carroll and Tom Huddlestone. I think most would say they'd be good players here now.
Carroll still has an awful lot to prove.
Dont sweat it mate. I got a bit of shit for suggesting a year or two ago that we should buy Andy Carroll and Tom Huddlestone. I think most would say they'd be good players here now.
Carroll still has an awful lot to prove.
The only thing stopping him from being one of the most effective strikers in the league will be his mentality or attitude. He has everything else.
I remember saying a while ago (might not have been here) that we should have signed Johnson and not Downing. I got shot down, someone even said that he's a bag of shite as they'd seen him play for the Under 21's.
Carroll doesn't look like a footballer, but seems to put his chances away.
He might end up like Darren Bent, someone who isn't probably the best footballer but finds the net.
I'd go for Tarrabt in January. That kid is class.
Carroll is your typical meat and potatoes old school CF - save for the occasional crap haircut.
Was quite impressed with him in the Championship.
It's a world apart doing well there and in the Prem though. Some pretty ordinary forwards have looked good in that league, Chopra, Ebanks Blake, Healy to name but a few.
But if he scores around 15 goals this season, menaces Prem defenders the same way he did Championship ones and Newcastle struggle, I'd definitely take a punt.
I remember saying a while ago (might not have been here) that we should have signed Johnson and not Downing. I got shot down, someone even said that he's a bag of shite as they'd seen him play for the Under 21's.
That could have been me, I didn't rate him at all when he was at Boro and thought Downing was a far superior player, then again I didn't rate Dwight Yorke as a young player either.
Carroll doesn't look like a footballer, but seems to put his chances away.
He might end up like Darren Bent, someone who isn't probably the best footballer but finds the net.
My tips for the top.
Coleman at Everton
Walker from Spuds
C/H at Blackburn....don't know his name.
Henderson from Sland.
Would like us to be ging for the Hendersons/Colemans of this world.The young LB who played for Nooocastle against Chelsk looked worth a look at as well.
We can't /should'nt be going for the Owens of this world, but the next Ashley Youngs
C/H at Blackburn....don't know his name.
I'd like Carroll. Every time he got the ball against us it looked like something was going to happen. Let's start taking chances like on youngsters - like Spurs do.
I'd like Carroll. Every time he got the ball against us it looked like something was going to happen. Let's start taking chances like on youngsters - like Spurs do.
Ye but at least he is a recognised comedian ..........I'd like Carroll. Every time he got the ball against us it looked like something was going to happen. Let's start taking chances like on youngsters - like Spurs do.
Let's be honest, on that day something would have happened if we'd have found Paul O'Grady on the ball.
The four goals that Dave Kitson scored in his first full season in the Premier League isn't that impressive.Carroll is your typical meat and potatoes old school CF - save for the occasional crap haircut.
Was quite impressed with him in the Championship.
It's a world apart doing well there and in the Prem though. Some pretty ordinary forwards have looked good in that league, Chopra, Ebanks Blake, Healy to name but a few.
But if he scores around 15 goals this season, menaces Prem defenders the same way he did Championship ones and Newcastle struggle, I'd definitely take a punt.
It's next season that will be the making/breaking of him.
Marcus Stewart, Dave Kitson, Michael Ricketts are just 3 examples of players who scored goals for fun in their first full season in the Prem, and then faded to nothing.
Thought Coleman was very good indeed for Blackpool when out on loan last year. Really caught the eye...
I thought Kitson got a shit load for Reading in his first season - or was that Doyle?Doyle got about ten in his first season, Kitson got about ten in his second.
Thought Coleman was very good indeed for Blackpool when out on loan last year. Really caught the eye...
I was impressed with him when he came on against us. He's mustard.
Obviously bollocks, but I like the line about linking us to De Gea he looks fantastic when I've seen him.
Where have we been linked with De Gea?
Ferguson was watching De Gea last week, which is why he wasn't at the Scunthorpe game. One of the best young keepers in Europe, he was amazing against Barca last weekend - they would have had 7 or 8 were it not for him.
Argentinian.
Argentinian.
Ta, they dont tend to settle well over here do they, generally.
Argentinian.
Ta, they dont tend to settle well over here do they, generally.
Would Cago be similar to when Arsene Wenger picked up Viera from AC Milan's reserves?
Ferguson was watching De Gea last week, which is why he wasn't at the Scunthorpe game. One of the best young keepers in Europe, he was amazing against Barca last weekend - they would have had 7 or 8 were it not for him.
They said he wasn't at Scunthorpe as he was scouting Valencia, who they play in the CL this week!
Argentinian.
Ta, they dont tend to settle well over here do they, generally.
Not really (Tevez is doing alright) but he's still not crap.
What are Moutinho and Veloso up to these days?Playing for Porto and Genoa respectively after transferring in the summer for about 10m each.
Shame. Both of them are good players who could have helped us with our problems in midfield.Maybe. Something doesn't quite sit right for me with either though.
He was good but not as good as he was made out to be when he was at River Plate, he struggled at Valencia but by all accounts has found some form at Benfica.
Querioz decided Mendes was a better bet, unlike the rest of Portugal that would have had Mortinho in the side. Veloso, as I've mentioned many times on here is just crap. Very good shot but never lived up to his potential and the only person I can think of that would lose in a race against Petrov after 80 minutes. Veloso only has two speeds; very slow and stop. He'd struggle to be a box to box player from the 6 yard box to the edge of the penalty area.Shame. Both of them are good players who could have helped us with our problems in midfield.Maybe. Something doesn't quite sit right for me with either though.
Portugal decided that Pedro Mendes was a better bet for their position for the World Cup. I'm sure I could be wrong (and I await Mark Kelly to tell me so) but I just get the feeling that they were both young Portuguese players coming through when young Portuguese players were very à la mode.
Don't really rate Gago myself. Never seems to be that comfortable on the ball and never seems to have full control. He does make some nice passes, but I'd much prefer a more combatitive DM. Stephane MBia would be a great option and I still think Axel Witsel would thrive in the Prem!
Add to one of them, Guillaume Hoarau who I think is a younger more prolific Carew. Then a couple of young gems worth looking at are Andrej Kramarić from Zagreb or Rogelio Funes Mori from River Plate who are both 19 and already on their way to looking the real deal. Hopefully with a more 'internationally' minded manager we may pick up a few of these foreign gems!!
Add to one of them, Guillaume Hoarau who I think is a younger more prolific Carew.
Defour? From what I have read he might be that quarterback type player that Monty is referring to.
I'd imagine his time at Liege has probably served it's cause so I'd imagine he'll be looking for a move. His injury might have put Fergie off (and others) so Villa could be the right club.
His injury will not put Fergie off. Look at RVN.Or look at Bebe.
I agree but getting them in earlier is more beneficial. They do their settling in and feeling their way before the shooting starts.
From The Daily Mirror
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier must decide by January if he wants to write off £16m-worth of talent. That is when midfielders Nigel Reo-Coker and Steve Sidwell and striker John Carew enter the final six months of their contracts and can talk to foreign clubs about moving on a free transfer in the summer.
We simply cannont afford to let NRC go, we are on our knees in modfield. With petrov probably being sold I'd rather keep Nigel simply for his experience.
We simply cannont afford to let NRC go, we are on our knees in modfield. With petrov probably being sold I'd rather keep Nigel simply for his experience.
From The Daily Mirror
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier must decide by January if he wants to write off £16m-worth of talent. That is when midfielders Nigel Reo-Coker and Steve Sidwell and striker John Carew enter the final six months of their contracts and can talk to foreign clubs about moving on a free transfer in the summer.
In many way I'd like keep NRC also. But we all know we need a new midfielder, who would be in the same mould as Petrov or NRC, or preferably a combination of the two. Add him to Ireland and Delph and that's three, plus one of Petrov or NRC hanging around the squad as cover. So 4 plus the emerging Bannan and Gardner doesn't leave a whole lot of room. Hence I think one of them is off along with Sidwell, and with Petrov being club captain and NRC in the last year of his contract, I think it's obvious who is most likely to be leaving B6!
Yes, I think Carew's number will be up, Sidwell can go, but NRC i'd be keen to keep in the squad.From The Daily Mirror
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier must decide by January if he wants to write off £16m-worth of talent. That is when midfielders Nigel Reo-Coker and Steve Sidwell and striker John Carew enter the final six months of their contracts and can talk to foreign clubs about moving on a free transfer in the summer.
I see this as good news.
I think the money is there for transfers, but as we all know the wage bill needs to be within a certain overall ratio to turnover. So those three clear over £100,000 a week that should then make room for new signings.
I think Carew is naturally coming to the end of his Villa tenure, Sidwell simply won't be missed and NRC I rate, but with Delph, Bannan and Gardner coming through it's an area we can afford to lose a body in.
Maybe, but NRC is 26 and has one of the best engines in the league and is something of a leader. Petrov is on his last legs, breathes through his arse after half time, gets dragged all over the place and leaves the defence exposed too often. Of the two only NRC is truly capable of playing as a defensive midfielder and neither are going to worry the attacking midfielders for their place. Therefore I would be looking at moving Petrov on with a warm thank you. He can still be effective abroad at a slower pace.
Maybe, but NRC is 26 and has one of the best engines in the league and is something of a leader. Petrov is on his last legs, breathes through his arse after half time, gets dragged all over the place and leaves the defence exposed too often. Of the two only NRC is truly capable of playing as a defensive midfielder and neither are going to worry the attacking midfielders for their place. Therefore I would be looking at moving Petrov on with a warm thank you. He can still be effective abroad at a slower pace.
Although I think you're being a little harsh on Petrov, I agree with you in principal. But the unfortunate circumstance is that come the end of the season Petrov will be under contract and NRC won't. And with the issue our wages have had with shipping players out last summer, I think we'll see Nigel go and Stan stay.
On the bright side, if used more sparingly Petrov would still be an asset and from a footballing perspective our young midfielders would learn more from him than from NRC's industry.
Isn't Funes Mori the guy who won the talent competition to get a trial at Chelsea and become a pro footballer?
I don't quite understand the Reo Coker love in. Decent enough at the limited job he does but we're going to need far better if we want to progress.
I don't quite understand the Reo Coker love in. Decent enough at the limited job he does but we're going to need far better if we want to progress.
The thing with NRC is you have to accpet his limitations and play him in a certain way/role or just not bother. Let him be the destroyer in there and have better players around him he can give it simple to and he's a big asset to the side.
I've heard it called the 'rat catcher' position where someone does the ugly stuff to allow the better player to get on wit playing. That's exactly what he is and how he should be used.
As Mazrim points out, he's the sort of person you want in the squad, not necessarily in the first 11.I don't quite understand the Reo Coker love in. Decent enough at the limited job he does but we're going to need far better if we want to progress.
Yes, I agree, if we had a player that brings us all the strengths of Reo Coker but also composure and class on the ball that would be ideal.
But there's a lot to admire with him. He gives it everything, never stops working, is strong, mobile and a leader on the pitch. He's very useful to have in the squad. Flawed, but also with a lot to offer.
Anyway, I dont see a love in but justified appreciation of his talents.
Hence, Nige is good enough...for at least another season.
There is rumours Leicester City will have Martin O'Neill as next manager. Let hope he will buy Petrov.
If Carew got agreement to join Club X in Country X we should contact them and tell them they can have him now for £100,000.
If Carew got agreement to join Club X in Country X we should contact them and tell them they can have him now for £100,000.
Like most new managers Houllier will want his own players in so look for players to be sold that might suprise.
Houllier's just announced Petrov will continue as captain so he may not be on his way out just yet.
Houllier's just announced Petrov will continue as captain so he may not be on his way out just yet.
Petrov is in the side at least until Hotlips can buy someone better to hold the midfield together. He may be able to do that in January but realistically it will happen in the summer.
We don't have anyone else capable of playing the Petrov role.
The better sides usually have a hard man in midfield Reo suits that role better, Petrov has the better skills. I am confiedent that Houllier will see our deficiences more readily than the recent departed.
Like playing a central defender at right back for most of his reign.
Yes and I might be wrong but I think Ireland has come expecting to take Milner's place and be a regular. I just feel he won't be here for very long, he was a knee jerk transfer much like shorey was before when we desperately needed a body, didn't really matter who.
Our current pool of defenders cost around £44 million, I don't think that's particularly good value for money.
Can't understand this love in for LYoung, think he has been very poor in parts of some games.
Gets some good blocks in, but his distribution and speed off the mark is very worrying.Would'nt be surprised if we sign a RB fairly quickly tbh.
Our current pool of defenders cost around £44 million, I don't think that's particularly good value for money.
Yet is that anymore than you'd expect to have to pay for one of the best defenses in the PL, which is what we had last season?
Our current pool of defenders cost around £44 million, I don't think that's particularly good value for money.
Yet is that anymore than you'd expect to have to pay for one of the best defenses in the PL, which is what we had last season?
Blues had one of the best defences last year, it cost a fraction of ours.
Can't really blame their defence for not scoring, not really their job.
Can't really blame their defence for not scoring, not really their job.
You can when their whole team is set out to play 9 behind the ball. Their GD was -9. They scored on average exactly one goal per game and let in 8 more goals then our Defence. They also had arguably the best GK around on loan last season and even though their "defence" is supposedly so good he still was MotM most games.
Discussing Jan transfer stuff in October is worse that some of the Xmas decorations that have appeared in some places!
Do actually agree with you. But it is nice to think for the first time for ages that we might sign a young up and coming european talent ......
GH wants Carrick according to the Sunday People (can't believe that the Sunday People is still being written/read)
Carrick would be an upgrade on Stan, is far, far better than Sidwell so from that point of view would increase our options.I disagree. There are very few players I would want in our midfield less than Carrick.
He's as good a passer as anyone in the league but he'd need an athletic DM alongside him to do the donkey work, either NRC or better.
Carrick would be an upgrade on Stan, is far, far better than Sidwell so from that point of view would increase our options.
He's as good a passer as anyone in the league but he'd need an athletic DM alongside him to do the donkey work, either NRC or better.
Gibbo, would have to disagree there. Twice the player Petrov is? Not for me.There is literally nothing that Carrick does that Petrov doesn't do already. While putting in a fraction of the effort.
£8m for Carrick, or bid £10/12m for Henderson?
Gibbo, would have to disagree there. Twice the player Petrov is? Not for me.
Carrick is a gutless wonder, He's just the opposite of what we need.
I'd prefer a match fit Hargreaves.He's 29 and I think he's slated for an early retirement.
My utd supporting mate can't stand Carrick, even if they've won impressively he still saves a bit of stick for him
Carrick would be an upgrade on Stan, is far, far better than Sidwell so from that point of view would increase our options.I disagree. There are very few players I would want in our midfield less than Carrick.
He's as good a passer as anyone in the league but he'd need an athletic DM alongside him to do the donkey work, either NRC or better.
Err question. Did we replace Ian Storey Moore when Houllier came in?
Or is this within Houllier's skill set after his work with the French FA.
Whoever the guy is may give us a clue to what or where our market will be.
Who was that other midfielder that we have wanted for the last two years? oh yeah he went to Spurs.But he played in a nasty Foreign league, we can't have that.
Possible Carew replacement?
From The Daily Mail
Bolton manager Owen Coyle is to hold talks with Johan Elmander about a new contract, with the striker available on a free transfer at the end of this season.
Always thought he was decent, like Carew, he's bulit like a brick shithouse.
I really hope we give Ireland a go in his preferred and most effective position. ...and soon. If that means putting Young back on the left then so be it.
Ireland plays centrally and Kranjcar wide, wouldn't want or rate either out of position so can't really compare.
Downing, Young, Albrighton, Ireland and Petrov are all pretty short, if we do buy a new midfielder a bit of height would be useful, which Muntari would give.
Downing, Young, Albrighton, Ireland and Petrov are all pretty short, if we do buy a new midfielder a bit of height would be useful, which Muntari would give.
He's not that tall. No taller than Petrov anyway.
5'10 1/2"
Why big? Claude Makelele is the definition of that position and he's 5' 7''. Also, the old-fashioned number 9 can be as much of a burden as a gift: he offers the attack a focal point, but if he's not really, really good (Drogba, basically) he can be marked out of the game just as readily as playmakers or wingers. If you're over-reliant on him being that focal point and he's marked out of the game, you obviously lose a huge amount of your potency going forward.
Another problem is that, even with these two players, 4-4-2 won't work because you'll either have a shortfall in midfield or out wide if you play the diamond. So you either move one wide player inside and it basically becomes 4-3-3, or you bring one of the two forwards back to link with the two central midfielders and you've got 4-2-3-1. 4-4-2 just doesn't work inherently.
The key is always players being comfortable on the ball, tactically aware so they don't leave gaps, always moving to give each other options, interchanging to keep defenders guessing. To do this, even for the most talented players, they have to train very hard indeed at very repetitive exercises designed to make them totally aware of each others' games and how to work in the system. As GH said, "it will take lots of training, lots of repetition". Once they've done this, then we can truly start to judge what is deficient in our team.
Possible Carew replacement?
From The Daily Mail
Bolton manager Owen Coyle is to hold talks with Johan Elmander about a new contract, with the striker available on a free transfer at the end of this season.
Always thought he was decent, like Carew, he's bulit like a brick shithouse.
Why not aspire?
I'll say it again, if fully fit Delph will be a superstar.For me hes a better player than Wilshire.
To say Delph is better than Wiltshire is very naive and has no justification.
Anthony Annan may be available in January. Norway's league finishes in November and they may be out of Europe by Christmas. He's a small lad but a feisty one, thought he had a really good World Cup too. Surprised he didn't move in the summer.
Anthony Annan may be available in January. Norway's league finishes in November and they may be out of Europe by Christmas. He's a small lad but a feisty one, thought he had a really good World Cup too. Surprised he didn't move in the summer.
Speaking of Annan, whatever happened to Eddie Annan, once of Sligo Rovers and Ayr United I think.
Let's not go overboard about Annan. He had a good World Cup, but how many of us actually know more about him than that? Certainly not me. It would be rather like turning down Ganso and Neymar on the basis that they had a bad youth World Cup a year or so ago, or (ahem) signing Milan Baros on the basis of one good Euros.
I'm not saying he's a bad player, far from it, he seemed very promising. But I'm not sure it's sensible to call for his signing on the basis of one tournament.
(or sound like that fella who used to be on here, who seemed to a handle on all of world football...forget his name)
(or sound like that fella who used to be on here, who seemed to a handle on all of world football...forget his name)
John Blackwell?
This thread and the Fabregas one have been very Blackwell-esque recently.
To the point where I'm surprised he hasn't dropped in to show his appreciation.
We've even had mention of players in Norwegian leagues FFS! I thought that would have been enough to smoke him out.
Probably not enough mention of obscure coaches or bizarre choices of ex-players to fill coaching roles. Rivaldo for head coach at Villa anyone? That will take some beating, but that's your challenge should you choose to accept.
Aston Villa are looking to bring the French six footer Guillaume Hoarau to Villa Park as soon as possible. In a £10m move that looks to be a long term replacement for that of either Emile Heskey or John Carew, Hoarau, who stands at 6ft 4in is just the type of player that Gerard Houllier is looking for as he continues to build for the future.
For his height, Hoarau is extremely agile and can finish as well as anyone else at the top of their game. At 26 years old he at the right age to perhaps move on to the Premiership. Currently playing for Paris Saint-Germain he has smacked in a whopping 23 goals in just over 50 appearances and the Aston Villa boss will be hopeful he will do the same at Villa Park.
Having sold James Milner at the beginning of the season, Houllier does have cash to spend and with the foundations of a very good defence already in place, will simply buy more attacking options such as the Villa target Hoarau.
Aston Villa have started well but their “big men” up front, Carew and Heskey are getting older and it looks as though the Villa boss wants to bring in a goal scoring talent but on a long term basis.
For me he has'nt got the burst of acceleration that Delph has, hes not as good in the tackle as Delph is, and he has'nt got as good a shot as Delph has.
Llorente would be excellent but with Bilbao still maintaining a Basque only policy I couldn't see them letting him go, unless it was for silly money.
Hoarau's team mate at PSG Sessegnon is well worth a look too. But we're probably covered for attacking midfielders.
Gervinho's a good player, but I'm not totally sure if we and him would be a good fit. To adjust to the level of the PL he'd probably need to play a lot of games - and with our attacking midfield option I don't think he could be guaranteed that. Capoue is a very interesting shout, though, certainly has improvedd more than I'd have thought by this stage. I would say that he lacks a little in terms of ideas in deep midfield, and I don't get the feeling that he's going to do much dictating of the game in possession. But certainly a good player, who's come on leaps and bounds.
Not familiar with this guy.
Monty Blackwell?
http://www.clubcall.com/aston-villa/villa-in-defender-chase-1106792.html (http://www.clubcall.com/aston-villa/villa-in-defender-chase-1106792.html)
Versatile then.
Has anybody seen £1.49? I just put it down and it's gone.
Aston Villa are tracking promising Toulouse winger Franck Tabanou, the player's agent has hinted.
The left winger is well known to Villa Park boss Gerard Houllier after coming through the France youth system and he played for Les Bleus Under 21s in their 3-1 friendly win against Denmark on Tuesday.
The 21-year-old has also been linked with Juventus after impressing for Toulouse this season and his agent said: 'These two clubs (Villa and Juve) are not mentioned by chance - and there are others following him.'
He is under contract till 2013 and Toulouse will want a good fee who, alongside 21-year-old Tottenham target Moussa Sissoko, is considered one of the club's bright hopes for the future.
Tabanou admitted last week that being reunited with former France technical director Houllier was an exciting prospect.
'If this rumour is true, I am proud because Aston Villa have been one of the big English clubs for several years,' said the left-sided player.
'Now I play for Toulouse and don't think about it too much. But it would be a lie to say that this club doesn't interest me. If they make an offer, then we'll see.'
QuoteAston Villa are tracking promising Toulouse winger Franck Tabanou, the player's agent has hinted.
The left winger is well known to Villa Park boss Gerard Houllier after coming through the France youth system and he played for Les Bleus Under 21s in their 3-1 friendly win against Denmark on Tuesday.
The 21-year-old has also been linked with Juventus after impressing for Toulouse this season and his agent said: 'These two clubs (Villa and Juve) are not mentioned by chance - and there are others following him.'
He is under contract till 2013 and Toulouse will want a good fee who, alongside 21-year-old Tottenham target Moussa Sissoko, is considered one of the club's bright hopes for the future.
Tabanou admitted last week that being reunited with former France technical director Houllier was an exciting prospect.
'If this rumour is true, I am proud because Aston Villa have been one of the big English clubs for several years,' said the left-sided player.
'Now I play for Toulouse and don't think about it too much. But it would be a lie to say that this club doesn't interest me. If they make an offer, then we'll see.'
Well, the French youth system has a lot of talent right now and we can tap into it. I'm not suprised Houllier is looking at what he knows best.
Nice to see clubcall is still going. The proceeds from me ringing them at £1.50 a minute back in the day while bored during the summer to see if we were signing anyone have served them well.
(http://toulouse.theoffside.com/files/2009/10/530648.jpg)
He really looks just like that bloke at Money City.
Winger. Forgot the name.
Gerard Houllier wants Swiss goalkeeper David Zibung as he gets ready to overhaul his Aston Villa squad in January.
The Villa manager has been told he has money to spend when the transfer window opens and he is intent on stamping his authority on his new squad.
And with current first choice goalkeeper Brad Friedel nearing the end of his career, Houllier is planning on finding a replacement with Lucerne goalkeeper Zibung on his list of targets.
The 26-year-old is also wanted by Italian sides Cagliari and Chievo, but Houllier is confident the offer of Premier League football will persuade Zibung to choose a move to England.
And with Zibung's club Lucerne in financial difficulty, Houllier believes a bid of around £1m would force them into considering letting the goalkeeper move in January.
He really looks just like that bloke at Money City.
Winger. Forgot the name.
SWP??
Nah neither of those. Think he played a bit in Central Midfield a bit before he went there... The name alludes me.Oh, Eyal Berkovic?
Do you mean Boniov , or something like that, who has just left?
Nice to see clubcall is still going. The proceeds from me ringing them at £1.50 a minute back in the day while bored during the summer to see if we were signing anyone have served them well.
I was never allowed so had to wait for the Evening Mail for any news.
Nice to see clubcall is still going. The proceeds from me ringing them at £1.50 a minute back in the day while bored during the summer to see if we were signing anyone have served them well.
I was never allowed so had to wait for the Evening Mail for any news.
Me neither, when my parents saw the phone bill. It led to future bills being itemised much to my brother's chagrin when he was found to have rang those late-night ITV chatlines.
Houllier will raid the French Ligue without doubt.
However he will have to balance the wages, so obviously players will have to leave
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CAREW - Ideal replacement will be Hoarau
Sidwell - either Yann M'Vila or Blaise Matuidi
Petrov - Moussa Sissoko
Habib Beye - with Young, Lichaj and Cuellar, reckon there is no need for strenghting
Davies - Mamadou Sakho (can play left back and centre back)
Also the club has saved money in releasing shorey, harewood and bouma for which no replacements wernt bought. Not to forget the milners money in the summer which wasn't spent.
Wouldn't grumble at any of those players, although you can tell Sissoko is going to fetch top dollar if and when he does move. Toulouse put a £25m price tag on his head this summer to ward off suitors. There are some really good up and coming DCM being produced in France at the moment, hopefully Houllier has been watching their progress over the last few years and knows who and where to pick up the next Viera etc..
Pires claims he would run to Aston Villa if given the offer!!
hmmmm might be worth a gamble for the short term and might be a positive influence on players like ashley young and albrighton.
Pires claims he would run to Aston Villa if given the offer!!
hmmmm might be worth a gamble for the short term and might be a positive influence on players like ashley young and albrighton.
He's done well at Villareal. Where are these quotes?
Pires, 37, is eager to extend his playing career and feels he still has a lot to offer to the right club, although the French midfielder would preferably favour a move to a London club.
Pires told L'Equipe Mag: "I spent six beautiful years at Arsenal. London became my home and I knew I would come back.
"Arsenal have offered me the opportunity to train and I can't thank Arsene Wenger enough."
However, the former Gunner has admitted the clock is against him and added that if he is without a new club in January then he will retire from the game.
Yet Pires has opted to battle against that happening by keeping his options open by not limiting himself to a move to a Premier League club. This will put Championship leaders Queens Park Rangers on alert after the Frenchman declared himself open to a move there.
"Even for a club like Birmingham or Stoke City? Of course, if I have an opportunity from Aston Villa, I will rush," he added.
"But I will analyse any proposition. I don't want to go anywhere and fight every weekend for salvation.
"QPR? I would be attracted. I am not necessarily looking for a six-month contract. I could imagine myself playing much longer.
"I will give myself until January 31. If at the end of the winter transfer market I have not found a club, I will hang up my boots."
After just watching the Blackpool Man City game, Charlie Adam would be excellent next to NRC.
He offers so much more than Petrov and would not be too expensive nor have high wage demands.
I don't think anyone could get him in January, but in the summer definatley possible.
his chirpiness and positivity at Villa Park all seem a tad forced, like the wan enthusiasm of a middle-aged divorcee dragged by his dizzy teenage girlfriend to an after-school disco.
Riykaard has left Galatasary. I don't think he'll be out of work long, strange that he didn't seem to be on our list of possibles.Fairly lucky that he wasn't. Not a good manager at all in my opinion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9109929.stm
Riykaard has left Galatasary. I don't think he'll be out of work long, strange that he didn't seem to be on our list of possibles.Fairly lucky that he wasn't. Not a good manager at all in my opinion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9109929.stm
Jean Makoun on Aston Villa and Arsenal radar as £11m Lyon midfielder heads for bargain January move
By Sportsmail Reporter
Last updated at 5:05 PM on 21st October 2010
Aston Villa and Arsenal have been linked with January moves for Cameroon midfielder Jean Makoun, who has fallen out of favour at Lyon.
The 27-year-old midfielder, who has previously been linked with Tottenham, is expected to leave the club in January after starting just four of nine Ligue 1 games this season.
Lyon president Jean Michel Aulas admitted there were 'one or two approaches from England', indicating they were for initial loan deals with an option to buy.
Arsenal and Spurs both mulled moves for the athletic, defence-minded midfielder two years ago when he was on his way out of Lille.
However, Lyon paid a whopping £11million to see off competition and Makoun impressed in his first season before starting to fall out of coach Claude Puel's plans last season.
He would be available for a knockdown fee at the end of the season as his contract expires in 2012.
Reports in France claim that Aston Villa are in pole position to make a January swoop, as their new French boss Gerard Houllier well acquainted with Makoun.
Odd state of affairs when £11 million is a knockdown fee.
Haven't seen enough of him to really form an opinion, whenever I've watched Lyon he hasn't particularly stood out.
Daily MailQuoteReports in France claim that Aston Villa are in pole position to make a January swoop, as their new French boss Gerard Houllier well acquainted with Makoun.
Ignoring the awful grammar that the Mail use, is there any reason why Houllier would be any more acquainted with him than anyone else as he left Lyon a year before they signed Makoun?
I'm putting this one down to lazy journalism.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3191389/Ashley-Young-halts-Aston-Villa-contract-talks.html
Who are we going to replace Young with then?
Haven't seen enough of him to really form an opinion, whenever I've watched Lyon he hasn't particularly stood out.
Any player in any position can stand out John, if they're good enough at what they do.
It doesn't need to be a headline grabbing contribution.
For a DM, I'd look at how they win the ball, the area they cover and their distribution.
I merely made the point that the lad didn't leave a lasting impression on me anytime I've seen his side play.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3191389/Ashley-Young-halts-Aston-Villa-contract-talks.htmlMaybe if Young goes to Spurs we can take one of their wingers who don't play too often, Kranjcar or Bentley. It could also mean that Bannan plays more?
Who are we going to replace Young with then?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3191389/Ashley-Young-halts-Aston-Villa-contract-talks.htmlMaybe if Young goes to Spurs we can take one of their wingers who don't play too often, Kranjcar or Bentley. It could also mean that Bannan plays more?
Who are we going to replace Young with then?
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3191389/Ashley-Young-halts-Aston-Villa-contract-talks.htmlMaybe if Young goes to Spurs we can take one of their wingers who don't play too often, Kranjcar or Bentley. It could also mean that Bannan plays more?
Who are we going to replace Young with then?
As much as I like our Ashley he is one of the most frustrating players of recent times. I would've been gutted to see him leave in any of the last few transfer windows, but if we could get a decent fee for him, I'd feel a lot easier about him being replaced now we have a less myopic manager at the helm.
As much as I like our Ashley he is one of the most frustrating players of recent times. I would've been gutted to see him leave in any of the last few transfer windows, but if we could get a decent fee for him, I'd feel a lot easier about him being replaced now we have a less myopic manager at the helm.
Would that be he same 'myopic' manager that signed him for us in he first place?
Watching the Newcastle v Wham match. Carroll looks a good player and the type of forward we need.
It's a shame that he is clearly barking mad.
We'll end up with Owen plus a midfielder I reckonPlease not Owen, he always strikes me that he doesn't give a shit anymore, not to mention his sugar glass legs.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Tottenham-have-denied-tapping-up-Ashley-Young-and-insists-they-are-not-even-interested-in-the-Aston-Villa-winger-article612855.html
Gotta love him eh?
I like the way villa is a club known for it's integrity and honesty but for once I would like the club to temporarily change their methods and leak some links for a few players. Preferably ones we'd like too - Henderson, Toulalan, Benzema, Llorente - as we need to try and change this perception that we're solely a feeder club.
Besides you never know they might be interested (the agents will at least).
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Tottenham-have-denied-tapping-up-Ashley-Young-and-insists-they-are-not-even-interested-in-the-Aston-Villa-winger-article612855.html
Gotta love him eh?
Right now any story about Young to Spurs will be associated with them flogging Bale, probably to Man City. So of course he's going to play it down.
£30m is his buy-out clause. But I'd be surprised if they accepted any less than that for him.
According to one of the papers yday, LLorentes asking price is £30m.
Hope we go for the Hendersons of this world.Would go for N'Zogbia if Asley goes, pref even if he does'nt go.
Very impressed with Onohua on Sat as our new RB, and would go for Dorrans from Boggies as replacement for Petrov/NRC/Sidwell.
Still would'nt be over disappointed with Doyle either.
I think Houllier will get fairly sizeable backing.
Agent: Muntari keen on January Premier League returnLink (http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/45842/Agent_Muntari_keen_on_January_Premier_League_return.aspx?)
Sport.co.uk understands Inter Milan midfielder Sulley Muntari will quit the San Siro in January with talks scheduled between the player’s representatives and the Nerazzurri.
Aston Villa, Tottenham Hotspur, Liverpool and Everton are the Premier League clubs who have registered interest in the former Portsmouth midfielder, however the player’s chief representative Frank Schreier did stress that there is interest from Spain, but the Premier League is the Ghanaian’s preferred destination.
Muntari, 26, moved to Portsmouth in 2007 for a fee of £7 million and was signed by current Spurs boss Harry Redknapp, who is thought to have the edge in the race to sign the powerful midfielder.
Schreier told Sport.co.uk in an exclusive interview: “It could be that he will leave in the January transfer window, we have to arrange a meeting in the next few days in Milan to discuss his future, and then we will know the conditions of a transfer.
“There has been contact from the Premier League, but also in Spain. But for Sulley a return to England and the Premier League is definitely a possibility. I will not speak directly about the clubs involved, but it is the ones who have followed him previously.”
It is thought Muntari would command a fee in the region of £8 million , although a short term loan move is also a possibility. Muntari helped Il Serpente secure a historic treble under former Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, which included a Champions League triumph against Bayern Munich.
I think Houllier will get fairly sizeable backing.
I have a feeling you might be right Maz! I just hope he wants to get on and spend it!
Jorge Fucile would also be a great addition, great fullback and can play both sides too!
I think Houllier will get fairly sizeable backing.
I have a feeling you might be right Maz! I just hope he wants to get on and spend it!
After watching Porto tonight I would love to see Radamel Falcao upfront for us, would cost a small fortune, but the guy is absolute mustard! Jorge Fucile would also be a great addition, great fullback and can play both sides too!
I think Houllier will get fairly sizeable backing.
I have a feeling you might be right Maz! I just hope he wants to get on and spend it!
Jorge Fucile would also be a great addition, great fullback and can play both sides too!
Fucile was also excellent at the World Cup.I think Houllier will get fairly sizeable backing.
I have a feeling you might be right Maz! I just hope he wants to get on and spend it!
After watching Porto tonight I would love to see Radamel Falcao upfront for us, would cost a small fortune, but the guy is absolute mustard! Jorge Fucile would also be a great addition, great fullback and can play both sides too!
Fucile was excellent at the World Cup and judging by all acounts we certainly missed a trick when not signing Falcao who we were linked with when he was at River, although it's debatable whether he would have settled in as well.
Edit. Not sure what happened there!
Some good names on that list, BedsVillain. I've liked Srna and Rakitic since watching Croatia outclass England in the Euro 2008 qualifiers - though neither are really immediate priorities in terms of positions and types of player (Rakitic perhaps not the kind of midfielder we're really crying out for), they're both quality footballers and the calibre that we should be looking at.
He's not really. I'd like a proven striker & Rodallega.
Affelay would be a great addition especially if Young is about to foxtrot oscar. Surely worth a Bid in January.
Was looking at all the players from abroad that will be out of contract next summer, therefore would be allowed to arange pre-contracts in January. Managed to make a decent team from the more realistic/worthwhile players.
……………………………..……Roman Weidenfeller ………………………………
Darijo Srna ….Philippe Mexès....Andrea Barzagli....Taye Taiwo
………………………………….Mahamadou Diarra…………………………………
Piotr Trochowski….Ivan Rakitic...Ibrahim Afellay….Juan Ángel Albín
………………………………...…Alessandro Matri………………………………………..
I think any of these players would be a welcome addition and improvement to our current squad. Maybe they'd be available at knocked down prices in January if they haven't signed new deals by then.
Think Owen would be a good signing, he is only 30 and although he was 'past his peak at 21' as he said today he could still do a job for us, Owen and Heskey reunited would be well worth watching till the summer![/b]
Fook knows whats happening to Carew and G-Hou doesnt fancy Fonz . Heskey could go back to Heskey and Gabby , lets hope he gets back to Gabby..You caught me there.
;-))Fook knows whats happening to Carew and G-Hou doesnt fancy Fonz . Heskey could go back to Heskey and Gabby , lets hope he gets back to Gabby..You caught me there.
You mean Heskey to return back to his old self and Gabby to return from injury?
Chelsea are after Srna.
Chelsea are after Srna.
Intersesting, wonder if they are looking to offload Boswinga, whose contract is also up in the summer?
True, let's right Crouch off because he hasn't scored in 5 league games.Nope, let's write him off because he's not very good and demonstrably not what we need.
Incidentally, it's one goal in his last fifteen league games.May as well keep Heskey then.
True, let's right Crouch off because he hasn't scored in 5 league games.Nope, let's write him off because he's not very good and demonstrably not what we need.
Incidentally, it's one goal in his last fifteen league games.
Benzema on loan would put "bums on seats" so to speak. Young and needs a fresh look somewhere else. Lyon product so Houllier will be aware of him. It's time we stopped being just linked to this kind of player and actually landed one or two; on loan or permanently.
Benzema on loan would put "bums on seats" so to speak. Young and needs a fresh look somewhere else. Lyon product so Houllier will be aware of him. It's time we stopped being just linked to this kind of player and actually landed one or two; on loan or permanently.
Have there actually been any links or is this wishful thinking?
My cheap and (I think) do-able alternative would be Klose on loan for the rest of the season.
He's hardly getting a kick at Bayern Munich and crucially plays (excellently) in the 4-2-3-1 formation with Germany. Hopefully he could teach Gabby/Fonz a few tricks whilst Houllier identifies a long term signing in the summer.
I'd try and sell carew in order to free up the wages to pay Klose.
Maybe Benzema would prefer a club that is playing in Europe?Wouldn't make a difference this season - he's already cup-tied.
Benzema on loan would put "bums on seats" so to speak. Young and needs a fresh look somewhere else. Lyon product so Houllier will be aware of him. It's time we stopped being just linked to this kind of player and actually landed one or two; on loan or permanently.
Have there actually been any links or is this wishful thinking?
My cheap and (I think) do-able alternative would be Klose on loan for the rest of the season.
He's hardly getting a kick at Bayern Munich and crucially plays (excellently) in the 4-2-3-1 formation with Germany. Hopefully he could teach Gabby/Fonz a few tricks whilst Houllier identifies a long term signing in the summer.
I'd try and sell carew in order to free up the wages to pay Klose.
Owens got a hamstring injury at the moment. Yes...shocking isn't it?
Apparently several sources including phil Thompson say michael owen will be villa 1st signing under houllier- I would approve of that providing he is fit, he will score goals.
Maybe followed by a top class centre forward in the summer- not sure gerard will be happy about thommo saying Liverpool should buy Ashley young though!
I (and possibly Mazrim) have said this before but Carroll looks class.
I know we were linked with him in the summer and nothing came of it, apart from a fair amount of discussion on here, but I just watched the first half of Brugge vs Standard Liege and Axel Witsel looks more and more the type of CM we need. He was tireless, working box to box. Very combatitive as well as being good on the ball, a few mazey dribbles into the Brugge box were superb! He and Delph would make a very dynamic pairing, if a little youthful!
I think today showed how much Sidwell and Ireland are not trusted by G dog in a big game, hence Clark being (fairly successfully) turned into a centre mid and Bannan coming on. I think that is the area we will be looking at quick smart in Jan, with creation and destruction in mind.
I think today showed how much Sidwell and Ireland are not trusted by G dog in a big game, hence Clark being (fairly successfully) turned into a centre mid and Bannan coming on. I think that is the area we will be looking at quick smart in Jan, with creation and destruction in mind.
Aand some kid striker - Lakuku??? who is meant to be the dogs knackers at 17 and being eyed around Europe? Mark Boussafa? SOme good players in Belgium if some reports are to be believed. Or the league in general is worse, so the top players look a lot better.
Lukaku looks quite useful. I'd be shocked if none of Europe's top clubs aren't in for him, especially ChelseaRead from somewhere, they are.
I'd hope though that Houllier's contacts would know that his contract is up in the summer and would be available for free (winky emoticon)
two players who are playing fro PSV at the moment would be just the ticket for me, Ibrahim Afellay is a midfielder, strong, clever, good vision, like a younger version of Petrov but with legs, I would break the bank for the lad.
GERARD HOULLIER admits you would have to be blind not to see that Aston Villa must sign new players in January.
But the Villa boss says the new buys may not include a striker - despite his side failing to score in 344 minutes of league action.
He said: "If we spot a good international player who can add something, we'll take him.
"We need to bring some players in and will have one or two coming in January. Will it be up front? Not necessarily.
"I don't like January windows but you need to be blind not to see there are areas where we're not blessed with numbers."
Rumour this morning, Paul Faulkner is flying to America to discuss transfers and contract extensions for Friedel and NrC.
Same story says we want to sell Sidwell and cares in jan so they don't go on a free.
Stoke want Davies for cut price £3million
Roque Santa Cruz is Houllier first choice.
All good just hope last part isn't true, rsc is too injury prone.
From the Current Bun -QuoteGERARD HOULLIER admits you would have to be blind not to see that Aston Villa must sign new players in January.
But the Villa boss says the new buys may not include a striker - despite his side failing to score in 344 minutes of league action.
He said: "If we spot a good international player who can add something, we'll take him.
"We need to bring some players in and will have one or two coming in January. Will it be up front? Not necessarily.
"I don't like January windows but you need to be blind not to see there are areas where we're not blessed with numbers."
Stoke can have Davies. £3m doesn't seem a lot but he's hardly played and I'm not sure if he's going to get near the team with Dunne, Collins, Cuellar & Clark.
If his contract is up then I'd take £3m for him.Stoke can have Davies. £3m doesn't seem a lot but he's hardly played and I'm not sure if he's going to get near the team with Dunne, Collins, Cuellar & Clark.
Isn't his contract up soon, if so I'd be surprised if we got that much for him. He didn't play for Leicester at the weekend, dropped already?
Stoke can have Davies. £3m doesn't seem a lot but he's hardly played and I'm not sure if he's going to get near the team with Dunne, Collins, Cuellar & Clark.
Isn't his contract up soon, if so I'd be surprised if we got that much for him. He didn't play for Leicester at the weekend, dropped already?
A team/squad for the second half of the season?
---------------------Friedel
------------Collins----------Cuellar
Young-----------------------------------Warnock
-------------Muntari--------Diarra
Downing----------Ireland------------Young
---------------------Hoarau
Guzan, Dunne, Clark, Delph, Albrighton, Agbonlahor, Heskey
Beye, Lichaj, Bannan, Reo Coker, Petrov, Weimann, Delfouneso
Out: Davies, Carew, Sidwell (circa £8m).
Just goes to show. A few names in and some of our injured players back and things start to look a lot rosier.
At least one if not two strikers in and we should send the Fonz out on loan; absolutely pointless him spending another season in our reserves if we're not going to use him - and based on initial indications, we're not. I'd rather see him spend six months in the Championship playing regularly.Even at the start of GH was asked about his strikers he named Gabby,Carew and Heskey as being his three strikers.No menton of the Fonz
0.001% Chance we get Lassana
A team/squad for the second half of the season?
---------------------Friedel
------------Collins----------Cuellar
Young-----------------------------------Warnock
-------------Muntari--------Diarra
Downing----------Ireland------------Young
---------------------Hoarau
Guzan, Dunne, Clark, Delph, Albrighton, Agbonlahor, Heskey
Beye, Lichaj, Bannan, Reo Coker, Petrov, Weimann, Delfouneso
i am a little confused about what has happened with delfouneso and houllier...
Perhaps he just isn't good enough, we have seen it all before it is a big jump to make from reserves to the first eleven. Where we are at the moment would i play the Fonz in front of Heskey or Carew, no.
I have said before that it was said that the MON/Reo Coker falling out was over Delfuenso not trying in training. Has he become a Billy Big Bollocks who thinks he has made it already? He seems to be going the way of the Moores :(
Overall I'd say it was a good signing.
He had a decent profile in Europe when he joined us, one of our few 'names' and he'll have been with us four years this Jan. For someone known as a bit of a nomad prior to joining us that's not bad.
A bit more consistency and he could have been phenomenal. But then with a bit more consistency he probably wouldn't have been with us.
i am a little confused about what has happened with delfouneso and houllier...
I have said before that it was said that the MON/Reo Coker falling out was over Delfuenso not trying in training. Has he become a Billy Big Bollocks who thinks he has made it already? He seems to be going the way of the Moores :(
i am a little confused about what has happened with delfouneso and houllier...
I have said before that it was said that the MON/Reo Coker falling out was over Delfuenso not trying in training. Has he become a Billy Big Bollocks who thinks he has made it already? He seems to be going the way of the Moores :(
There's a lot of assumtions in there, to say Nathan is too big for his boots based on one incident that may or may not be toally true is a little harsh.
Every time I have seen Delfouneso play he looks like he has got something a bit special, but it's not just Gerard who hasn't played him, Kevin Mac appeared reluctant to pick him in the first team. I just hope it gets resolved soon as my lad wants 14 and Delfouneso on his new shirt for xmas.
Our kid reckons he's heard a whisper that we'll try to get Benzema on loan in the new year.
It was probably his own whisper though, in his sleep, just before he woke up.
Our kid reckons he's heard a whisper that we'll try to get Benzema on loan in the new year.
It was probably his own whisper though, in his sleep, just before he woke up.
Nothing against you personally, but I hate posts like this as I always find a way to convince myself it's a possibility (not getting a look in at Madrid, Geeza's French Connection, etc.) to the point where I start imagining where he would best fit in the team.
And I always end up disapointed.
the joy is in the anticipation and not the delivery.
the joy is in the anticipation and not the delivery.
We should make that the new club motto.
My mate has just seen Benzema driving out of Car Park 4 at the Kingfisher Shopping Centre in Redditch. He knew it was Benzema as the number plate said BEN53MA
My mate has just seen Benzema driving out of Car Park 4 at the Kingfisher Shopping Centre in Redditch. He knew it was Benzema as the number plate said BEN53MA
Yeah, he's been into Poundstretcher to stock up on shaving foam, kitchen roll and a pallett load of Hyundai AA batteries.
I have said before that it was said that the MON/Reo Coker falling out was over Delfuenso not trying in training. Has he become a Billy Big Bollocks who thinks he has made it already? He seems to be going the way of the Moores :(
That's a very good, and quite worrying, point.
Our kid reckons he's heard a whisper that we'll try to get Benzema on loan in the new year.
It was probably his own whisper though, in his sleep, just before he woke up.
Nothing against you personally, but I hate posts like this as I always find a way to convince myself it's a possibility (not getting a look in at Madrid, Geeza's French Connection, etc.) to the point where I start imagining where he would best fit in the team.
And I always end up disapointed.
You'll learn one day John that the joy, just like Christmas, is in the anticipation and not the delivery.
From BBC Gossip/Daily Heil
Aston Villa are ready to rival Liverpool in a bid for Preston's £4m-rated defender Sean St Ledger.
I'm pretty sure we're well enough stocked in the centre of defence.
Also, isn't he the Villa fan who wanted to score the goal that stopped Blues coming up a couple of years ago?
Players like Mark Noble, Joey Barton, Jose Enrique, Steven Pienaar, Clint Dempsey could be tempted I reckon.
Players I'd be looking at if I was GH are:
Joleon Lescott
Jordan Henderson
Hugo Rodallega
Dario Srna
Charles N'Zogbia
Scott Parker.
I don't really expect any of them to sign during Jan though.
Players I'd be looking at if I was GH are:
Joleon Lescott
Jordan Henderson
Hugo Rodallega
Dario Srna
Charles N'Zogbia
Scott Parker.
I don't really expect any of them to sign during Jan though.
From BBC Gossip/Daily Heil
Aston Villa are ready to rival Liverpool in a bid for Preston's £4m-rated defender Sean St Ledger.
I'm pretty sure we're well enough stocked in the centre of defence.
Also, isn't he the Villa fan who wanted to score the goal that stopped Blues coming up a couple of years ago?
Joey Barton
Wayne Bridge? Warnock, as solid as he is get's booked far too often.
Owen would be a good signing for Villa as long as he stays fit.And John Carew would be good if he magically turned into David Villa.
I was here first.
Owen would be a good signing for Villa as long as he stays fit.
Wayne Bridge? Warnock, as solid as he is get's booked far too often.
isnt mateja kezman available on a free?
I was here first.
Erm, I think not my similarly monikered friend. You're a veritable newbie compared to me. I outrank you by a full year.
OK, so I did change my username 12 months ago but that's not the point.
I was here first.
Erm, I think not my similarly monikered friend. You're a veritable newbie compared to me. I outrank you by a full year.
OK, so I did change my username 12 months ago but that's not the point.
Alas, I was Peter Withe's Shin on the old board until I couldn't log in with it and someone else had it away.
So there.
could possibly do a job while we have nothing else..Could he?
is the window shut for out of contract transfers?I'm not sure - it could be that we could fill the spaces if they're available.
no sure what the dates are, or if there is a window for these...
i know that free transfers can be registered anytime if the squad quota isnt filled, and ours isnt...
but if the window is shut, then fair point, and i rescind my comment...
God, there's some desperation on here: Kezman? Barton? Bridge? Owen?!
FFS, we're not going anywhere with these types of "tried and failed" players.
We have to look to IMPROVE what we've currenlty got; not replace mediocrity with middle-of-the-roaders.
Whilst I'm no expert in the foreign legion, I'd expect GH to have a number of Europe-based players lined up to come in.
I used to be soclsull but my ex-girlfriend stole my log in details and changed my details after she read the 'My Dilemma' thread I started in GMs. It was all about her.
Please please please Houllier give up on Owen. We want young hungry players to start a new era at Villa park and bring a fresh look to the team .......
Please please please Houllier give up on Owen. We want young hungry players to start a new era at Villa park and bring a fresh look to the team .......
he probabl already has. The media won't. That's the difference.
Work rate wise I don't think I have seen many better forwards than Elmander. Does not score enough though.
Ashkar, I don't think Houllier is 'sick of' Petrov and NRC, given his revitalising of both of them and regret at their injuries.I'm not sure he has revitalised either of them. They have both played as they always have. In NRC's case he is just getting a game these days, and has shown us what he is good at, but he hasn't improved as a player.
Daily Mirror
Bolton striker Johan Elmander is being chased by Turkish club Fenerbahce who are set to put in a £3m bid for the Swede in the January transfer window.
I'd get him for £3m. A hard working version of Carew.
It's because he can have a free at the end of the season, I guess £3m is better for them than nothing although I suspect the fee would be a bit higher than that.Daily Mirror
Bolton striker Johan Elmander is being chased by Turkish club Fenerbahce who are set to put in a £3m bid for the Swede in the January transfer window.
I'd get him for £3m. A hard working version of Carew.
Thats strange, didn't they buy him for about £10m? His form has been quite decent whenever I've seen him, certainly nothing to justify such a huge drop in value.
It seems daft to sign a player from abroad on such a short contract for such a fee, he takes a year to settle in, gives you a decent season and then leaves for nothing.True.
I think we have to wait and see how Gabby plays in the new system, with Hou as the manager , before deciding how much we need to spend on a striker.
Personally i would let Carew and Heskey go, and use the Milner money, and the wages saved, to get a good up and coming striker.
We have Fonz, and Weimann coming through, and tbh , i think both players wil make it.
Elmander is prob a better bet than Doyle, a similar kind of player and half the price.I think Klasnic at Bburn will turn out to be a very good player as well.
If you've got Flamini I'm not sure what the point is of having Coker and Delph alongside, it wouldn't be creative enough. I'd replace Coker with Bannan or Ireland in that midfield, myself.
If we did cash in on Ashley Young, I would have a good go at getting Matt Jarvis from Wolves. He is absolutely flying this season.Kightly at Wolves was also superb, before his injury.
If you've got Flamini I'm not sure what the point is of having Coker and Delph alongside, it wouldn't be creative enough. I'd replace Coker with Bannan or Ireland in that midfield, myself.True, but when Flamini played for Arsenal he didn't just sit deep and tear it up in midfield, he got involved plenty in Arsenal's attack and I remember he scored a good goal against us a few seasons ago. Yes, he is classed as a 'defensive midfielder' but he likes bombing foward too. Coker is a box-to-box midfielder and Delph is an attacking midfielder... I don't know though, Houllier would go with what he thinks works best, but either way, if we did sign Flamini it'd be nice to have all the great options to have playing with him in midfield. Coker, Delph, Flamini or Delph, Flamini, Ireland... either way both look good although I'd like to see Ireland in the team too.
If we did cash in on Ashley Young, I would have a good go at getting Matt Jarvis from Wolves. He is absolutely flying this season.I think Jarvis is a fantastic player, think they got him and Kightly for a combined 250k
If we did cash in on Ashley Young, I would have a good go at getting Matt Jarvis from Wolves. He is absolutely flying this season.I think Jarvis is a fantastic player, think they got him and Kightly for a combined 250k
I think GH will get a striker in from abroad in the January window. Tbh his record at Liverpool with foreign strikers wasn't very good, Baros, Diouf and Cisse all made minimal impact under him.Although he never had the opportunity with Cissé who he signed just before he left the club.
Cisse is very hit and miss and quite limited.His record everywhere but England is superb. He's obviously not Thierry Henry, but I still think with a bit of luck and the right coaching he could easily have been a Louis Saha.
Finished according to my Wolves supporting boss.If we did cash in on Ashley Young, I would have a good go at getting Matt Jarvis from Wolves. He is absolutely flying this season.Kightly at Wolves was also superb, before his injury.
Be interesting to see what he's like when he get's back to fitness.
Finished according to my Wolves supporting boss.
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Kalinic is a really good player, actually. Slaven Bilic went so far as to call him "the future of Croatian football", which, though hyperbole, is some praise. He deserves a better outlet for his talents than Allardyce's vomit-worthy football.I agree about Kalinic - an instinctive player whose movement is really good - but his record to date has been unimpressive.
Kalinic is a really good player, actually. Slaven Bilic went so far as to call him "the future of Croatian football", which, though hyperbole, is some praise. He deserves a better outlet for his talents than Allardyce's vomit-worthy football.I agree about Kalinic - an instinctive player whose movement is really good - but his record to date has been unimpressive.
Klose on loan for the rest of the year and get rid of Carew.Your mention of Klose reminds me that one of the best strikers in Germany last season was the lad who moved to Bayern from Hamburg (he scored at least once against us in the Euro Vase). He looks class.
A long term replacement in the summer once we know whether The Fonz is good enough.
V true.Kalinic is a really good player, actually. Slaven Bilic went so far as to call him "the future of Croatian football", which, though hyperbole, is some praise. He deserves a better outlet for his talents than Allardyce's vomit-worthy football.I agree about Kalinic - an instinctive player whose movement is really good - but his record to date has been unimpressive.
To be honest look at Elmander at Bolton. He isn't that suited to the hoof ball. Once Coyle got there and they actually try and pass the ball he's done a lot better. Especially away from home.
I think Kalinic would have a much better record playing for a team that tries to play half decent football. Unlike Blackburn.
Ellmander reminds me of Geoff Horsfield.You need glasses then Chris.
Ellmander reminds me of Geoff Horsfield.You need glasses then Chris.
Holds the ball up superbly, bullies defenders, good in the air and works hard.
Klose on loan for the rest of the year and get rid of Carew.Your mention of Klose reminds me that one of the best strikers in Germany last season was the lad who moved to Bayern from Hamburg (he scored at least once against us in the Euro Vase). He looks class.
A long term replacement in the summer once we know whether The Fonz is good enough.
Klose on loan for the rest of the year and get rid of Carew.Your mention of Klose reminds me that one of the best strikers in Germany last season was the lad who moved to Bayern from Hamburg (he scored at least once against us in the Euro Vase). He looks class.
A long term replacement in the summer once we know whether The Fonz is good enough.
Olic?
Linked with Izaguirre at Celtic.
I own the copyright for "We should sign Ricardo Fuller". I've been saying it to a lot of mates of mine even when Stoke were in the Championship. He's got everything; power, pace, first touch, awareness, great postioning and a great finisher. He was a player I thought MON should of signed and I'm really baffled how he doesn't play for Stoke every week. Who on earth is John Walters?!
Just seen that Kranjcar says he will want out at spuds if he's not playing regulary. That's another good option for us I suppose. Although he's not a defensive midfielder, he'd be a good player to have I think.
Seeing as he's not playing regularly at Stoke unlike Kenwyne Jones, we'd get Fuller at around £7-8 million probably. I just checked out wikipedia and nearly fell off my chair when I saw Stoke bought him for 500k...I own the copyright for "We should sign Ricardo Fuller". I've been saying it to a lot of mates of mine even when Stoke were in the Championship. He's got everything; power, pace, first touch, awareness, great postioning and a great finisher. He was a player I thought MON should of signed and I'm really baffled how he doesn't play for Stoke every week. Who on earth is John Walters?!
Not a bad shout that - at the right price.
Kranjcar is a prettyboy wanker who has one good game in ten.
That said, I have a funny feeling we'll go for Danny Murphy at Fulham. Either in Jan or in the summer.That's a good call,as he's probably the same age as Gary Mac was when was signed by GH.
That said, I have a funny feeling we'll go for Danny Murphy at Fulham. Either in Jan or in the summer.I'd very much doubt he'd go for him in the summer, he'll be 34 by that stage!
Always thought Murphy was a decent footballer, but he'd be a squad player here as he's no better than what we already have, so I don't see the point personally.
I don't think you could say that with absolute certainty John.
He was one of GH's trusty lieutenants at the Redscouse and most managers like to surround themselves with players they know. Doesn't look like he particularly rates Sidwell (didn't take him long) and he's subbed Petrov a few times too.
As we've seen with the current injury situation, our resources can get stretched very easily, so a player who he knows and trusts to come in and do a job might be the best we can do this window. Leaving the major rebuilding work to the summer - when a number of squad players will be out of contact anyway.
Always thought Murphy was a decent footballer, but he'd be a squad player here as he's no better than what we already have, so I don't see the point personally.
I view Murphy as better than NRC and Sidders and at least the equal of Petrov
I wouldnt swap NRC for Murphy if I was out of my mind on heroin.
The player that has impressed me in the Championship is Derby's Kris Commons - he could be worth a punt
You'd swap (currently) our best defensive midfielder, in his prime, for somebody about to retire?I doubt it's heroin, I gather Chris is currently smoking the ashes of one Greg Nash.
Maybe Heroin is for you then Chris.
I wouldn't put Reo Coker in our top 3 defensive midfielders.
Delph, Petrov, Clark.
Delph, Petrov, Clark.
I know he's a bit crackers, but every time I see Charles N'zogbia play he looks like the best player on the pitch. He's way too good for them, and we should step in, as insurance against Young fucking off.
I really don't think Ireland will be going anywhere.
I really don't think Ireland will be going anywhere.
Tectonic plate shifting suggests it might move fractionally towards the Americas but it wont be much.
I really don't think Ireland will be going anywhere.
Tectonic plate shifting suggests it might move fractionally towards the Americas but it wont be much.
I really don't think Ireland will be going anywhere.
Tectonic plate shifting suggests it might move fractionally towards the Americas but it wont be much.
Actually away from the Americas. The Mid-Atlantic ridge is a constructive tectonic plate movement and is therefore widening ::)
I really don't think Ireland will be going anywhere.
Tectonic plate shifting suggests it might move fractionally towards the Americas but it wont be much.
Actually away from the Americas. The Mid-Atlantic ridge is a constructive tectonic plate movement and is therefore widening ::)
Aston Villa are believed to be lining up a swoop for Lyon midfielder Jean Makoun when the winter transfer window opens following an admission that he is looking for the exit door. The 27-year-old has had an uneasy relationship with the Lyon supporters and now believes the time has come to make his exit from the Stade Gerland.
"I’m not going to complain", said Makoun to L’Equipe about support attitudes towards him, "but I think the next transfer window [to leave]."
The tough-tackling defensive midfielder cost Lyon €14M to tempt from Lille in 2008 and is known to be highly rated by Aston Villa boss and former Lyon coach Gerard Houllier. The Frenchman is believed to have made Makoun a priority for the winter transfer window and will be delighted if he can convince the Cameroon international to head to Villa Park.
This one did the rounds a few weeks back and has resurfaced today with a quote from the player.QuoteAston Villa are believed to be lining up a swoop for Lyon midfielder Jean Makoun when the winter transfer window opens following an admission that he is looking for the exit door. The 27-year-old has had an uneasy relationship with the Lyon supporters and now believes the time has come to make his exit from the Stade Gerland.
"I’m not going to complain", said Makoun to L’Equipe about support attitudes towards him, "but I think the next transfer window [to leave]."
The tough-tackling defensive midfielder cost Lyon €14M to tempt from Lille in 2008 and is known to be highly rated by Aston Villa boss and former Lyon coach Gerard Houllier. The Frenchman is believed to have made Makoun a priority for the winter transfer window and will be delighted if he can convince the Cameroon international to head to Villa Park.
Annan was good as a defensive midfielder for Nigeria in the World Cup and would probably be cheaper than Makoun. We could then have a midfield of Annan and Bannan, if only there was a decent player called Cannon.
Bendtner wants out of arsenal. For £6-8m I would go for it.
Bendtner wants out of arsenal. For £6-8m I would go for it.
I used to think he wasn't that good, but with a run in the team and some confidence I think he'll be a good premier league striker.
Bendtner wants out of arsenal. For £6-8m I would go for it.
I used to think he wasn't that good, but with a run in the team and some confidence I think he'll be a good premier league striker.
I agree.
Parot Flaubert from Nimes is apparently on GH list of potential targets
Bendtner wants out of arsenal. For £6-8m I would go for it.
I used to think he wasn't that good, but with a run in the team and some confidence I think he'll be a good premier league striker.
Bendtner wants out of arsenal. For £6-8m I would go for it.
I used to think he wasn't that good, but with a run in the team and some confidence I think he'll be a good premier league striker.
I am certainly more of that view than I used to be....though still unsure!
Heard from a reliable source today that Parick Vieira will be joining in January.
Heard from a reliable source today that Parick Vieira will be joining in January.
What a difference a Vierra would make.
IF we are to become a big club, that's the kind of move we have to make.
No price is going to be released by the club. But i do think a substantial amount will be available. We really have to get rid of players who are very rarely in the first team Salouf, Davies, etc and replace them with players for the first team who will either compete or remove them .......
Pienaar for Ireland?
Makoun is likely to be available for £5m which seems good for a player that cost them 14.
Sunderland did amazingly well to get Gyan. He was brilliant at the World Cup too, so it seems strange there wasn't a lot of interest in him. Hopefully GH will be able to find us someone similar
Sunderland did amazingly well to get Gyan. He was brilliant at the World Cup too, so it seems strange there wasn't a lot of interest in him. Hopefully GH will be able to find us someone similar
Sunderland did amazingly well to get Gyan. He was brilliant at the World Cup too, so it seems strange there wasn't a lot of interest in him. Hopefully GH will be able to find us someone similar
He's had 2 or 3 decent games for Sunderland, that's all. Give it a season and if he's still playing as well this time next year I might agree with you
Sunderland did amazingly well to get Gyan. He was brilliant at the World Cup too, so it seems strange there wasn't a lot of interest in him. Hopefully GH will be able to find us someone similar
He's had 2 or 3 decent games for Sunderland, that's all. Give it a season and if he's still playing as well this time next year I might agree with you
I don't think he's been playing much since he signed.
The Metro this morning says that GH is working on a loan deal for Benzema.
That Marlon Harewood at Blackpool seems to know where the goal is !!!!!!
The Metro this morning says that GH is working on a loan deal for Benzema.
Yes please.
6 goals in 11 appearances for Gyan, that's a cracking return for a PL newby.He has made a good start, but remember that lad at Wigan 2/3 yrs ago, Amir Saki or whoever it was, he made a crackning start then fell away badly.
Gyan reminds me of Tony Yeboah
I like the rumour :) I think we should set up an alliance with Real Madrid to make us first choice for loans deals :) If they ask nicely they can have Steve Sidwell :) Oh Gerry should have a chat about how to make sure the team never lose Real Madrid haven't lost a game under Mourinho yet. (Not check last weekend)
I like the rumour :) I think we should set up an alliance with Real Madrid to make us first choice for loans deals :) If they ask nicely they can have Steve Sidwell :) Oh Gerry should have a chat about how to make sure the team never lose Real Madrid haven't lost a game under Mourinho yet. (Not check last weekend)
Jose has already signed Sidwell once.
Benzema cost Real Madrid something like 30 million euros, plus he's been largely crap and a bit part player for them since he joined. I dread to think what kind of money he's on as well, thus I can't see us signing him on loan.
Stoke manager Tony Pulis wants to take Aston Villa midfielder Stephen Ireland on loan in January - and save him from his Villa Park nightmare.I'm in the office. I have a hard time trying to control my laughter.
Benzema cost Real Madrid something like 30 million euros, plus he's been largely crap and a bit part player for them since he joined. I dread to think what kind of money he's on as well, thus I can't see us signing him on loan.
Not that I'm saying theres all that much to this but you dont have to pay all of his wages. You can agree to pay a percentage as long as Madrid agree it.
From Madrid's point of view, possibly, if they're not going to play him he's just taking up resources and may as well be playing somewhere else.
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier has ruled out the possibility of trying to sign Manchester United striker Michael Owen in January.
Houllier expects to have Emile Heskey and John Carew available after injury lay-offs within the next month, and therefore does not expect to reunited with the striker he was previously in charge of during his successful spell at Liverpool.
When asked if he would try to sign Owen in January, Houllier said: "No, no. In terms of some strikers Emile and John will come back. There is no point."
But Houllier did confirm: "We definitely need to sign one or two players in January."
Meanwhile, Houllier has called for patience in giving his crop of exciting young players, such as Marc Albrighton and Barry Bannan, time to develop.
He said: "The only thing with young players is you need sometimes to be patient and sometimes to be indulgent.
"I think at some stage one of them will have a very poor game but you must not judge on one game. It's a whole picture thing.
"That's what I said to young Bannan because he was distraught after the game against Burnley in the Carling Cup.
"I said 'hang on, you're not in the team because of one game.' He thought it was a make-or-break game.
"I said 'no, it's a whole thing, you will miss games, you will have better games'. "Sometimes they are a little bit impatient."
The wages issue hasn't gone away and as we look likely to continue with just 1 up front I can't see us buying a striker unless we also sell one.
rumours from my foxes mate, Leicester to bid 4 million for Curtis Davis...Do you think we could interest them in taking him and Sidwell for £8million.
rumours from my foxes mate, Leicester to bid 4 million for Curtis Davis...
Benzema would have no shortage of suitors if he was to leave Madrid, but Houllier has put himself first in the queue for a potential January loan move.
'If Karim wants to come and play at Aston Villa, we would sign him tomorrow,' Houllier told L'Equipe.
'We are keen to offer him more first-team opportunities.'
rumours from my foxes mate, Leicester to bid 4 million for Curtis Davis...
Would accept that without hesitation.
From The Daily MailQuoteBenzema would have no shortage of suitors if he was to leave Madrid, but Houllier has put himself first in the queue for a potential January loan move.
'If Karim wants to come and play at Aston Villa, we would sign him tomorrow,' Houllier told L'Equipe.
'We are keen to offer him more first-team opportunities.'
Whether we buy a striker or not, I doubt its to do with wages now.
I think thats largely under control and we'll be seeing the likes of Sidwell, Davies, Beye and a few others on fairly big money go in the coming year.
Our kid reckons he's heard a whisper that we'll try to get Benzema on loan in the new year.
It was probably his own whisper though, in his sleep, just before he woke up.
From The Daily MailQuoteBenzema would have no shortage of suitors if he was to leave Madrid, but Houllier has put himself first in the queue for a potential January loan move.
'If Karim wants to come and play at Aston Villa, we would sign him tomorrow,' Houllier told L'Equipe.
'We are keen to offer him more first-team opportunities.'
If no Benzema, I would like us to swoop for Elmander.
I DON'T CARE, I WANT HIM.If no Benzema, I would like us to swoop for Elmander.
Until recently I would have balked at this suggestion but he's increasingly looking the part.
I'm not totally convinced yet though.
If no Benzema, I would like us to swoop for Elmander.
I'm actually looking forward to January, for a change.
I see JPA has been released.
So....... given our situation.......would you.... short term contract till the end of the season ?
Pires, crosses to Angel.....goal !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I see JPA has been released.
So....... given our situation.......would you.... short term contract till the end of the season ?
Pires, crosses to Angel.....goal !!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know what? That's not the worst idea i've ever heard actually.
Fletcher no need for a striker or JPA? I dont want JPA back but i certainly think there is a need for a striker with Nathan our only fit one at present, who has only started 2 prem games to date. Yes hopefully the others will be fit soon, but I think another striker is a priority.By the time we got him up to speed, our other strikers would be fit.
JPA was not crap.Never said unsworth played for us. And footballs all about opinions. Oh and jpa wasn't exactly worth another contract when he left, again IMO.
Cuellar is not our best defender.
Unsworth never played for us.
been linked with a £14m move to Liverpool
M'Vila looks like the kind of player we need, and should be going for.
Maybe we should try and find these players before they get capped by France and everybody has heard of them?that sounds like a plan, a bloody good one at that
Maybe we should try and find these players before they get capped by France and everybody has heard of them?that sounds like a plan, a bloody good one at that
Maybe we should try and find these players before they get capped by France and everybody has heard of them?that sounds like a plan, a bloody good one at that
Not very original, their all at Arsenel
But none of whom who weren't (or won't be) transferred for at least £15m.Maybe we should try and find these players before they get capped by France and everybody has heard of them?that sounds like a plan, a bloody good one at that
Not very original, their all at Arsenel
M'Vila, Remy, Hoarau, Gourcuff, Valbuena...
Plenty of young talented French players not at L'Arse.
Its in the express and star under the transfer rumours section
Where's this link about Cuellar?
How much?
But none of whom who weren't (or won't be) transferred for at least £15m.Maybe we should try and find these players before they get capped by France and everybody has heard of them?that sounds like a plan, a bloody good one at that
Not very original, their all at Arsenel
M'Vila, Remy, Hoarau, Gourcuff, Valbuena...
Plenty of young talented French players not at L'Arse.
Expert from Spain on Talkshite saying no chance of Benzema going to Villa...
It was a nice thought for 3 seconds..
Expert from Spain on Talkshite saying no chance of Benzema going to Villa...
It was a nice thought for 3 seconds..
Is that that Guillem Baguette bloke who does the Spanish round up on Sky?
Sets himself up as some kind of doyen on all things Spanish football, but it sounds like he's making it up on the hoof most of the time. I don't think I've ever heard one of his predictions re player movement or any other bobbins actually come to pass.
I don't think we have much chance of signing Benzema either, but is that numpty says it our chances have probably increased tenfold.
Juventus bought the player in 2008 from Palermo, where he exploded,
This:
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Five-strikers-to-Aston-Villa-on-to-the-next-level/12143/
is quite interesting. Not so much direct links but someone's put some research together on five strikers who would potentially suit us. One or two familiar names, worth a read!
This:
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Five-strikers-to-Aston-Villa-on-to-the-next-level/12143/
is quite interesting. Not so much direct links but someone's put some research together on five strikers who would potentially suit us. One or two familiar names, worth a read!
This:
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Five-strikers-to-Aston-Villa-on-to-the-next-level/12143/
is quite interesting. Not so much direct links but someone's put some research together on five strikers who would potentially suit us. One or two familiar names, worth a read!
Falcao and Farfan are the two that stand out of those listed, but both I think would cost more than the £10-15m they suggest.
Aston Villa want to sign Manchester United midfielder Darron Gibson either permanently or on loan.Thanks, but no thanks.
Daily Mirror
Totally disagree. For the right fee i think he would be great addition.But he doesn't actually do anything apart from once every ten games score from the edge of the area.
Totally disagree. For the right fee i think he would be great addition.
He's not good enough to get in our current midfield (well, our potential uninjured midfield anyway) so considering that it something we need to improve on anyway, I don't see where he fits in.
Never been that impressed with him to be honest. If he cant dislodge Glen Whelan , Keith Andrews and Paul Green in the Republic of Ireland midfield I dont see how he could improve ours. He's a squad player at the best and not one who would be pushing for a start in the first team.
He has played nine times for the Republic Or Ireland.Never been that impressed with him to be honest. If he cant dislodge Glen Whelan , Keith Andrews and Paul Green in the Republic of Ireland midfield I dont see how he could improve ours. He's a squad player at the best and not one who would be pushing for a start in the first team.
He will have trouble dislodging those 3 as they play for the Republic of Ireland and he is NORTHERN IRISH
How does that work when he was born in Derry, Northern Ireland any way im sorry for questioning the "correctness" of that post !!!!He has played nine times for the Republic Or Ireland.Never been that impressed with him to be honest. If he cant dislodge Glen Whelan , Keith Andrews and Paul Green in the Republic of Ireland midfield I dont see how he could improve ours. He's a squad player at the best and not one who would be pushing for a start in the first team.
He will have trouble dislodging those 3 as they play for the Republic of Ireland and he is NORTHERN IRISH
Because the country in which you were born isn't the be all and end all, and he chose to play for the Republic.How does that work when he was born in Derry, Northern Ireland any way im sorry for questioning the "correctness" of that post !!!!He has played nine times for the Republic Or Ireland.Never been that impressed with him to be honest. If he cant dislodge Glen Whelan , Keith Andrews and Paul Green in the Republic of Ireland midfield I dont see how he could improve ours. He's a squad player at the best and not one who would be pushing for a start in the first team.
He will have trouble dislodging those 3 as they play for the Republic of Ireland and he is NORTHERN IRISH
Because the country in which you were born isn't the be all and end all, and he chose to play for the Republic.How does that work when he was born in Derry, Northern Ireland any way im sorry for questioning the "correctness" of that post !!!!He has played nine times for the Republic Or Ireland.Never been that impressed with him to be honest. If he cant dislodge Glen Whelan , Keith Andrews and Paul Green in the Republic of Ireland midfield I dont see how he could improve ours. He's a squad player at the best and not one who would be pushing for a start in the first team.
He will have trouble dislodging those 3 as they play for the Republic of Ireland and he is NORTHERN IRISH
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I'd rather stick with our promising crop of midfielders than buy one. If its in the mirror its go to be bs anyway. We need GH to find the latest man mountain French/African DM.
I like him, he's another Fletcher, doesn't grab headlines but always available for a pass and moves the ball accurately and quickly.
isnt amauri out for the season with a knee problem?
isnt amauri out for the season with a knee problem?
When that injury, that keeps you out is your knee, that's Amauri?
Sentiments echoed.isnt amauri out for the season with a knee problem?
When that injury, that keeps you out is your knee, that's Amauri?
Excellent, just excellent
Would you sell Ireland to Liverpool ?
Linked with M'Vila again for £9m..........for a 20 yr ols French international, a fantastic signing.
Bannan..............M'Vila.................Delph, midfield, now that is mouth watering.
Linked with M'Vila again for £9m.........
BULLSHIT ALERT
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier is ready to make a £1.2m move for Middlesbrough central defender David Wheater.
Full story: Daily Mirror
I dont think its the weight, its just that his sloppy alter ego has returned, unfortunately.
BULLSHIT ALERT
Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier is ready to make a £1.2m move for Middlesbrough central defender David Wheater.
Full story: Daily Mirror
I'd imagine thats Juninho Pernambucano, the lad who played at Lyon until last season. Free kick specialist. 35 mind? Houllier+Lyon= Bollocks Transfer story!
Not to be confused with Juninho Paulista though, the one with the smoggie accent!
We just need to use Carlos instead of buying David Wheater.
If we go after a young Centre half it should be Shawcross.
Wheater will cost about a million as his contract has 6 months to run. As such I would have him over the 12 million you would have to spend on Shawcross. I think for that sort of money it is a decent buy, clearly GH is not a big fan of Cuellar who I fear will be off (and not shocked if Arsenal had a look you know) in Jan for a decent fee. I can see the sense in Wheater.
I think before the start of next season a keeper and 2 full back will have been brought in too, plus a new holding midfielder to make us more solid. And then a striker. GH is known to like to change a squad around to suit himself so I expect and look forward to some big changes.
David Wheater according to the Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1331961/Aston-Villa-manager-Gerard-Houllier-poised-make-January-Middlesbroughs-David-Wheater.html
Would you sell Ireland to Liverpool ?Is that sale possible, isn't there a rule about 2 clubs in a season?
What is it with us signing over the hill midfielders? Ok, we have an injury crisis but even at that.
These rumours are fucking worrying.
I really wouldn't care if Carew never plays for us again.He probably feels the same way.
And that's been his problem ever since he was busted in the Rocket ClubI really wouldn't care if Carew never plays for us again.He probably feels the same way.
I really wouldn't care if Carew never plays for us again.He probably feels the same way.
He was happy enough to plod along,come on for 15 minutes and do f all.I really wouldn't care if Carew never plays for us again.He probably feels the same way.
I think he was happy enough under MON, but it's obvious he and GH are not best of pals.
Citeh are ready to listen to offers for Adebayor according to SSN. I know he's got a bad reputation, would probably be looking for a CL team and Citeh wouldn't want to sell him to us. But I do feel he would be very good in our current set up and he does score goals. Massive improvement on Carew & Heskey. Maybe offer some ofthe £18m Milner cash back?Adebayor is a greedy ******. He'd want £100k a week and I'm sure he's trying to talk himself into a move to Juventus.
Citeh are ready to listen to offers for Adebayor according to SSN. I know he's got a bad reputation, would probably be looking for a CL team and Citeh wouldn't want to sell him to us. But I do feel he would be very good in our current set up and he does score goals. Massive improvement on Carew & Heskey. Maybe offer some ofthe £18m Milner cash back?
Citeh are ready to listen to offers for Adebayor according to SSN. I know he's got a bad reputation, would probably be looking for a CL team and Citeh wouldn't want to sell him to us. But I do feel he would be very good in our current set up and he does score goals. Massive improvement on Carew & Heskey. Maybe offer some ofthe £18m Milner cash back?Adebayor is a greedy c***. He'd want £100k a week and I'm sure he's trying to talk himself into a move to Juventus.
What is it with us signing over the hill midfielders? Ok, we have an injury crisis but even at that.
These rumours are fucking worrying.
So GH has signed one player on a free because the window has closed and all of a sudden we are signing over the hill midfielders. Have you ever considered changing your name from Reality to something like Pessimism or Cloud Cuckoo Land?
What a charming soul you are Reality.
I'll believe we are interested in Juninho when I see him with that shirt and if Gerard thinks he can benefit us on a short term contract then so be it. Pires may be 37 years old but he's only here in the short term and will make a contribution off as well as on the pitch in helping our young players hopefully. Now, it's early days but I reckon he'll do well in both these functions (tried some decent balls when he came on and looks better than Ireland) and he's only here for the short term anyway.
Now, what out of contract players should we be signing to provide desperately needed extra bodies. Who is available that can help there that is better than Pires? Are Xavi and Iniesta looking for new clubs? We are down to the bare bones so signing Pires can help there. Juninho might actually wrestle the ball of Young at free-kicks and show him how it is done.
And even then I sincerely doubt that we are after him and I don't see us bringing anyone in until January.
Why don't you come out with something constructive and on topic rather than using the term "arsehole"?
Why don't you come out with something constructive and on topic rather than using the term "arsehole"?
Like what, constantly whining, calling peoples opinions shite, getting everything arse upwards and pissing people off. That kind of constructive you mean?
Why don't you come out with something constructive and on topic rather than using the term "arsehole"?
Like what, constantly whining, calling peoples opinions shite, getting everything arse upwards and pissing people off. That kind of constructive you mean?
Where did I call someone's opinion "shite"?
Getting everything "arse" upwards? What does that even mean?
Arguing and name calling on the transfer thread - that must mean we're getting close to the window!
It might be worth going for Elmander from Bolton as his contract is running out in the summer, I have a feeling Santa Cruz will be coming to us though.
It might be worth going for Elmander from Bolton as his contract is running out in the summer, I have a feeling Santa Cruz will be coming to us though.
RSC will find up with his mate Hughes at Fulham I would wager.
It might be worth going for Elmander from Bolton as his contract is running out in the summer, I have a feeling Santa Cruz will be coming to us though.
RSC will find up with his mate Hughes at Fulham I would wager.
Wouldn't mind RSC at all.
Adebayor is top quality.....but i reckon a nightmare to work with. Elamander is'nt a patch on him for ability, but i would probably prefer him tbh.
Linked with M'Vila in the Mail again today.
my worry with Elmander is that he has found his feet just before his contract expires
Elmander is 29, i'm not a big fan of signing players approaching 30, but he's on fire and I reckon £3m-£4m would get him, I think he'd give us a much needed boost for the second half of the season.my worry with Elmander is that he has found his feet just before his contract expires
I wouldnt buy him because of his age, but we need someone who is gonna stay upfront and get on the end of chances.
We need a Bent type player who isn't constantly drifting out wide. Rooney scores all his goals last season because he changed his game to be always in and around the box.
We either need too teach Gabby or buy someone proven.
I dont doubt it Robbo. The General will have listened to complaints about the bums on seats aspect to many of MONs signings and will feed that back.
Obviously we should consider the team first and though many might not pay to see M'Vila play, he will, you'd think, be the type of player to improve our fortunes.
That said, if we're after a striker, why not make him a wow signing that will bring crowds in at the same time.
I would steer well clear of Rocque Santa Cruz. Good player though he is on his day, he isnt what we need and I think that one golden season he had at Blackburn might have been unique for him (as Elmander's current form might be for him). The last thing we need is another player we cant guarantee will be able to walk from one day to the next or a player we're scratching our head at wondering why he isn't as good for us as he was for Blackburn/Bolton/whoever.
If we had to speculate on a player I'd sooner they were younger. Otherwise just get as near to a sure thing as we can.
I wouldn't be adverse to it all going to one very special player, if we can still attract one.
I also saw bentley linked today as well, I think they just drag up the same names whoever is in charge
I also saw bentley linked today as well, I think they just drag up the same names whoever is in charge
I also saw bentley linked today as well, I think they just drag up the same names whoever is in charge
Found myself thinking yesterday how undeniably funny it would be if GH signed McGeady and Keane in his first window.
This is why it's so different, with MON Bentley would be a shoe in but GH has broader horizons.
Gary McAllister was at Ibrox last night.Friedel will need replacing soon enough. Not seen enough of McGregor to know if he is good enough.
Looking at McGregor?
I like McGregor too.
Even in league 1 or 2 the strikers occasionally catch the ball sweetly, so the Scottish league can't be much different. I think goalkeeping is the only position you can pick up a player from a poorer quality league and it not make much difference what they're playing against.i wouldnt agree with that..
Even in league 1 or 2 the strikers occasionally catch the ball sweetly, so the Scottish league can't be much different. I think goalkeeping is the only position you can pick up a player from a poorer quality league and it not make much difference what they're playing against.i wouldnt agree with that..
the regularity of that "sweet striker" is the difference...
it can happen occasionally in the likes of league one and two, even less for old firm keepers because the rest of the scottish league is very poor quality (even the old firm are made up of players not good enough for the prem, or championship fodder, and either get battered or play 10 man and the bus behind the ball anti football)...
so the regularity of someone like mcgregor facing quality finishing, attacking play, etc, is far less in scotland, than it would be in the english premier league...
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Considering the money in the EPL the old firm give a good account of themselves against the EPL.
they manage to raise their games because its like their cup final... or they park the bus...That said we used to get our best players from Scotland.
scottish football is not of a high standard, and for me, i dont think we should be touching any of their players again, with a bargepole...
they manage to raise their games because its like their cup final... or they park the bus...That said we used to get our best players from Scotland.
scottish football is not of a high standard, and for me, i dont think we should be touching any of their players again, with a bargepole...
Adam Johnson has been linked with a move away from Man City and we could do a lot worse. Could be a replacement for Young.
Adam Johnson has been linked with a move away from Man City and we could do a lot worse. Could be a replacement for Young.
Good player but not one to fit into GH's vision of the team coming first.
Adam Johnson has been linked with a move away from Man City and we could do a lot worse. Could be a replacement for Young.
Good player but not one to fit into GH's vision of the team coming first.
Not sure about that, he strikes me as professional in his approach to the game. Is he a me me me type character?
Adam Johnson has been linked with a move away from Man City and we could do a lot worse. Could be a replacement for Young.
Good player but not one to fit into GH's vision of the team coming first.
Not sure about that, he strikes me as professional in his approach to the game. Is he a me me me type character?
Mancini has warned him a couple of times about his 'lifestyle' and he was one of those involved in the piss up in Scotland the other week.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/24/roberto-mancini-adam-johnson (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/24/roberto-mancini-adam-johnson)
From today's Times:
Emile Heskey is recovering well from knee surgery but Houllier is still likely to make a new striker a priority. He is eager to sign Karim Benzema if Villa can outbid Juventus and should Real Madrid wish to offload him.
Houllier has also been linked with Juninho who played under him at Lyons, and Lacina Traoré of Cluj and Ivory Coast.
£12,000 to go an a date with Jordan
£12,000 to go an a date with Jordan
The very epitome of more money than sense.
Or taste, in this particular instance.
they manage to raise their games because its like their cup final... or they park the bus...That said we used to get our best players from Scotland.
scottish football is not of a high standard, and for me, i dont think we should be touching any of their players again, with a bargepole...
they manage to raise their games because its like their cup final... or they park the bus...That said we used to get our best players from Scotland.
scottish football is not of a high standard, and for me, i dont think we should be touching any of their players again, with a bargepole...
Craig Gordon is decent, he was from scotland, he was motm against Spurs the other week
There are lot better 'keepers out there we should be looking at in the summer. Only problem is both Arsenal & Manyoo will be in the market for new one's too. Although United should have that Danish fella signed by then.
Roman Weidenfellar from Dortmund should be available on a free
Maarten Stekelenburg must be looking to challenge himself in a real league
Samir Handanovič from Udinese would be a great signing
I don't think McGregor is up to the standard we should be looking at.
There are lot better 'keepers out there we should be looking at in the summer. Only problem is both Arsenal & Manyoo will be in the market for new one's too. Although United should have that Danish fella signed by then.
Roman Weidenfellar from Dortmund should be available on a free
Maarten Stekelenburg must be looking to challenge himself in a real league
Samir Handanovič from Udinese would be a great signing
I don't think McGregor is up to the standard we should be looking at.
I claim my John Blackwell alias name prize (smiley face).
On the Beeb site they are reporting that David Moyes would be happy to take David Beckham on loan for the rest of the season - all Beckham had to do was call. Why don't we give him a bell - similar type of deal and advantage as taking Pires, and 2 years younger. A big buzz round the club, shore up our depleted midfield, great for the youngsters (and a role model for some of our olders), and thousands of replica shirts sold. Go on Randy - give him a call. May well be he wouldn't be interested but wouldn't hurt to ask
Axel Witsel just had a storming game for Standard, ran the midfield and scored two goals in the process! Would love to see him in our midfield alongside Clark or Delph.
Axel did what can only be described as the worst challenge I've ever seen, what makes it worse he did it on purpose as revenge.
Axel did what can only be described as the worst challenge I've ever seen, what makes it worse he did it on purpose as revenge.
So did Roy Keane, when he was older and wiser than Witsel, he was still a brilliant football who would have been welcome in our midfield.
Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier has not ruled out a move for 35-year-old midfielder Juninho. The Brazilian, who played under Houllier at Lyon, is currently at Al-Gharafa in Qatar.
Full story: Inside Futbol
Frei, is a very good goalie though.The Swiss striker?!
Axel did what can only be described as the worst challenge I've ever seen, what makes it worse he did it on purpose as revenge.
So did Roy Keane, when he was older and wiser than Witsel, he was still a brilliant football who would have been welcome in our midfield.
Have you seen the Witsel challenge?
Roy keane wasnone of the best midfielders in the world, Axel Witsel is average.
Always like Kirkland as well, not rated for some reason.
I don't mind McGregor, or Gordon tbh, but i've always liked the Bpool keeper whenever i've seen him.
Always like Kirkland as well, not rated for some reason.Frei, is a very good goalie though.
Would prefer M'Vila to Wietsel tbh, watched him against England, and he is just the kind of player we are missng atm.Onohua available for £4mas well, must be worth a shout as well.
YouTube link to this challenge, please.
What happened to Defour? Is he playing again as he was injured for a while.
Anyone know if we put a sell on clause into the Cahill deal. That would give us some free money if Bolton sell him for 10m +.Cahill had a £17m release clause written into his new contract.
O.k, Think they might sell for a bit less if Spurs offer 15m. If we have a 20% sell on clause then that's a free 3m coming our way.A quick browse of a few Bolton fora suggests that we have 25% of any profit. So a £15m transfer fee would give us £2.5m.
There are lot better 'keepers out there we should be looking at in the summer. Only problem is both Arsenal & Manyoo will be in the market for new one's too. Although United should have that Danish fella signed by then.
Roman Weidenfellar from Dortmund should be available on a free
Maarten Stekelenburg must be looking to challenge himself in a real league
Samir Handanovič from Udinese would be a great signing
I don't think McGregor is up to the standard we should be looking at.
I claim my John Blackwell alias name prize (smiley face).
Yeah sorry to disappoint! Two of those listed were at the WC this summer and the other plays for the current top placed Bundesliga team. Besides there's nothing wrong with expanding your vision a little further then B6, we live in a global community now a days! Put down your mince and potatoes and try something a little more exciting, something spicy, you never know you might just enjoy it! **winky face**
There are lot better 'keepers out there we should be looking at in the summer. Only problem is both Arsenal & Manyoo will be in the market for new one's too. Although United should have that Danish fella signed by then.
Roman Weidenfellar from Dortmund should be available on a free
Maarten Stekelenburg must be looking to challenge himself in a real league
Samir Handanovič from Udinese would be a great signing
I don't think McGregor is up to the standard we should be looking at.
I claim my John Blackwell alias name prize (smiley face).
Yeah sorry to disappoint! Two of those listed were at the WC this summer and the other plays for the current top placed Bundesliga team. Besides there's nothing wrong with expanding your vision a little further then B6, we live in a global community now a days! Put down your mince and potatoes and try something a little more exciting, something spicy, you never know you might just enjoy it! **winky face**
Was only joking of course BedsVillain, I have heard of Maarten Stekelenburg a damn fine keeper. Haven't heard of the other two hence the joke, more taking the piss out of myself. I only like spicy mince and kumara (sweet potatoes).
Here is the challenge.
It's the worst I've ever seen, not for the faint hearted.&feature=youtube_gdata_player
It is usually based on profit for sell ons so sounds about right.
Seriously doubt we could 1. afford Shawcross, or 2. Get him to come when he may be waiting for a top 4 side to come in.
I might be tempted to make a cheeky one for Lescott from Man City you know.
For me, it seems obvious that our full-backs are a huge weak link. Neither stays on his feet nearly enough, neither is comfortable enough on the ball, neither can really attack properly, neither has anywhere near good enough positional sense. This is an area we desperately need to improve on, in my view.
2 new players plus the several hundred we have missing through injury back would be a good start in the new year.
We need a couple more than 2 new players though, I think.
Striker, defensive midfielder, left back cover/competition, goal keeper.
On Sky Houiller is saying that he will bring in 2 new faces on january transfer window...Sounds like he's already got a couple of deals tied up.
Only two! I hope he's not gonna be a dithering Martin about this. We need 4-5 really and to ship out some dead wood. Not even so much ready for next season, but to make damn sure we pull well clear of the drop zone this season.
We need new fitness and medical staff too by the looks of things right now.
Only two! I hope he's not gonna be a dithering Martin about this. We need 4-5 really and to ship out some dead wood. Not even so much ready for next season, but to make damn sure we pull well clear of the drop zone this season.
We need new fitness and medical staff too by the looks of things right now.
I think trying to bring in that many in January would be a panic measure. We've got Petrov, Reo Cooker, Delph, Sidwell, Gabby, Heskey, Cuellar, Davies and Albrighton to come back into the squad.
A couple of decent additions will do and give a chance for the manager to have a proper look at the all of his squad before getting down to the real business in the summer.
I seriously hope Houllier isn't a Martin.
Bardsley as well.I seriously hope Houllier isn't a Martin.
In Martin's first January window we signed Carew, Ash and Maloney. OK they had varying degress of sucess, bu the boat was pushed out as it needed to be. Once everyone is back fit I think our needs are less than they were then, but the same principal still applies.
If we don't get at least one quality addition, preferrably in midfield or upfront, then I'll be quite disappointed.
I'd quite like a Scottish goalkeeper please.
It's a myth you can't sign anyone decent in January, Spurs regularly sign players that improve them in the second half of the season and Man. City got Adam Johnson last January.Ashley Young's done a half-decent job for us over the years as well.
Manchester United are planning to make summer moves to sign Aston Villa youngster Ciaran Clark and Blackburn Rovers defender Phil Jones.Just spotted that on BBC. Why they report stuff that, even from its name, sounds like a wind-up site, I'll never understand.
From Caughtoffside.
Flog him. £20mil :-)Manchester United are planning to make summer moves to sign Aston Villa youngster Ciaran Clark and Blackburn Rovers defender Phil Jones.Just spotted that on BBC. Why they report stuff that, even from its name, sounds like a wind-up site, I'll never understand.
From Caughtoffside.
We signed Shaun Maloney, too, oh & Wayne Routledge. Legends.It's a myth you can't sign anyone decent in January, Spurs regularly sign players that improve them in the second half of the season and Man. City got Adam Johnson last January.Ashley Young's done a half-decent job for us over the years as well.
Aston Villa are ready to rekindle their interest in Tottenham striker Robbie Keane with a £6m bid in January.
Full story: Daily Mail
Good shout on Vagner Love. He would be ready to go from the 1st day in Jan .........
Aston Villa are ready to rekindle their interest in Tottenham striker Robbie Keane with a £6m bid in January.
Full story: Daily Mail
Sweet Jesus no.
Though I think that paper also mentioned that we're still in for Bentley, so I assume they haven't updated the speculation tray since July.
...........................Friedel
Young.........Collins.....Clark..........Warnock
..................M'Vila........Delph
.......Young........Ireland......V-Love
.......................Agbonlahor
...........................Friedel
Young.........Collins.....Clark..........Warnock
..................M'Vila........Delph
.......Young........Ireland......V-Love
.......................Agbonlahor
Bit unfair to be dropping Downing and Albrighton. Also don't think Love would be best deployed wide. Why not just keep the attacking trio of Ash/Downing/Marc and rotate Gabby with Love. The options are then to drop which ever of the three is least performing and go 4-4-2, or bring in Ireland to see if Love does bring out the best in him.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/3175/5/aston-villa-lead-chase-highly-rated-swede-soder
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?Can't find any stream on him.
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?Can't find any stream on him.
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?Can't find any stream on him.
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/3175/5/aston-villa-lead-chase-highly-rated-swede-soder
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?
From that clip, he looks more like a replacement for Ashley Young.http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/3175/5/aston-villa-lead-chase-highly-rated-swede-soder
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?
Only what I've read about him today. Described as 'highly rated' but 'sparingly used' last season, which sounds a little strange to me, I think we have our own 19 year old highly rated, sparingly used striker already! Apparently Soder has drawn comparinsons to Henrik Larrson, due to his devasting finishing, although I imagine it's more to do with him being Swedish.....and a striker!
He's the little blonde number 11 in the first half of this video
YouTube Linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUj1EeGyGsA)
Spookily enough that was what I thought as well.From that clip, he looks more like a replacement for Ashley Young.http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/3175/5/aston-villa-lead-chase-highly-rated-swede-soder
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?
Only what I've read about him today. Described as 'highly rated' but 'sparingly used' last season, which sounds a little strange to me, I think we have our own 19 year old highly rated, sparingly used striker already! Apparently Soder has drawn comparinsons to Henrik Larrson, due to his devasting finishing, although I imagine it's more to do with him being Swedish.....and a striker!
He's the little blonde number 11 in the first half of this video
YouTube Linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUj1EeGyGsA)
From that clip, he looks more like a replacement for Ashley Young.http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/3175/5/aston-villa-lead-chase-highly-rated-swede-soder
We're linked with this striker .... Robin Soder , anyone know about him ?
Only what I've read about him today. Described as 'highly rated' but 'sparingly used' last season, which sounds a little strange to me, I think we have our own 19 year old highly rated, sparingly used striker already! Apparently Soder has drawn comparinsons to Henrik Larrson, due to his devasting finishing, although I imagine it's more to do with him being Swedish.....and a striker!
He's the little blonde number 11 in the first half of this video
YouTube Linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUj1EeGyGsA)
We need Keane more than ever. A few years ago, he was the man to give us a chance of a top four finish. Now he's the man to banish any talk of relegation. I sincerely believe that no matter how many goals we let in, with a goalscoring machine such as him, there would be no more talk of relegation on here.
Paying 6 million to ensure premiership football for another season is well worth it.
We need Keane more than ever. A few years ago, he was the man to give us a chance of a top four finish. Now he's the man to banish any talk of relegation. I sincerely believe that no matter how many goals we let in, with a goalscoring machine such as him, there would be no more talk of relegation on here.
Paying 6 million to ensure premiership football for another season is well worth it.
I assume that was tongue in cheek.
Decent link man and can join play well but one thing Keane has rarely (if ever) been is a goalscoring machine.
Including his time at Liverpool and his second stint at Tottingham (not incuding his stint of part-time football up in Scotland) his average has dropped to one in four.
So a few years ago maybe, but I don't see why we should help other clubs out and take their deadwood. He'll be 31 in a few months too. We're more than well stocked when it comes to underperforming strikers the wrong side of 30, thanks all the same.
I'm not quite sure what you're point is.We signed Shaun Maloney, too, oh & Wayne Routledge. Legends.It's a myth you can't sign anyone decent in January, Spurs regularly sign players that improve them in the second half of the season and Man. City got Adam Johnson last January.Ashley Young's done a half-decent job for us over the years as well.
This is the first transfer window in a number of years that I'm actually looking forward to. Most of us got used to a MON window and knew things wouldn't really kick off until the end. This time around we'll be linked to a number of different types of player and I expect Houllier to do everything he can to add numbers, difficult as it might be in January.
Lescott is only 28. I'd have him at Villa like a shot.
Keane, nah. No thanks. Once upon a time but not now.
From the Mirror
Aston Villa striker Gabriel Agbonlahor has been told by manager Gerard Houllier to lay off lifting weights. The 24-year-old was told by previous boss Martin O'Neill to bulk up but Houllier says: "Sometimes players do too much. He's not in the gym now. The fact is, I think he should stop, he's too stocky."
From the Mirror
Aston Villa striker Gabriel Agbonlahor has been told by manager Gerard Houllier to lay off lifting weights. The 24-year-old was told by previous boss Martin O'Neill to bulk up but Houllier says: "Sometimes players do too much. He's not in the gym now. The fact is, I think he should stop, he's too stocky."
Quite noticable in the Utd game that he had trimmed down.
This is the first transfer window in a number of years that I'm actually looking forward to. Most of us got used to a MON window and knew things wouldn't really kick off until the end. This time around we'll be linked to a number of different types of player and I expect Houllier to do everything he can to add numbers, difficult as it might be in January.
I think the fact it is January will make it very difficult indeed, so my expectations are low.
The last couple of years there seems to have been less and less business done in January.
Ha! I'll raise the SWP speculation with..... this!
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/agent-reveals-juventus-interest-forgotten-villa-midfielder-salifou-1294681
Ha! I'll raise the SWP speculation with..... this!
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/agent-reveals-juventus-interest-forgotten-villa-midfielder-salifou-1294681
Oh fuck off Mirror, will you.Come, come Maz, you're not that ugly.
A mate of mine reckons Rigobert Song was at the game last night. Not sure how true this is, but could this be a January signing?
A mate of mine reckons Rigobert Song was at the game last night. Not sure how true this is, but could this be a January signing?
I assume and hope that is a joke.
A mate of mine reckons Rigobert Song was at the game last night. Not sure how true this is, but could this be a January signing?
Oh fuck off Mirror, will you.Come, come Maz, you're not that ugly.
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Hows Bellamy going at Cardiff? surely he will be moving back to a prem side.
Hows Bellamy going at Cardiff? surely he will be moving back to a prem side.
Only on loan though. Long term he causes damage to any club with a bit of ambition about them.
I'd prefer taking a risk on Piquionne than buying a tired old has-been like Keane.Piquionne is older than Keane
I'd prefer taking a risk on Piquionne than buying a tired old has-been like Keane.Piquionne is older than Keane, and according to the trusted Wikipedia has a strike rate in England of 9 in 47, no thanks
Lescott would be a good start.
would like us to sign falco from portoIn our current plight,think we've got more chance of getting Mark,ex Tottenham lard arse,
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
Anyone worried that our shitty league position will affect who we are able to sign in the January window?
I've been pretty relaxed about our current plight as I had written this season off as one of transition anyway (the kids being a bonus) however there is no doubt that if we're perceived to be in a relegation battle then some of the better players may choose to go elsewhere.
I'd prefer taking a risk on Piquionne than buying a tired old has-been like Keane.Piquionne is older than Keane
Anyone worried that our shitty league position will affect who we are able to sign in the January window?
I've been pretty relaxed about our current plight as I had written this season off as one of transition anyway (the kids being a bonus) however there is no doubt that if we're perceived to be in a relegation battle then some of the better players may choose to go elsewhere.
40 odd grand a week will soften the blow for most of the modern day mercenaries.
I'd prefer taking a risk on Piquionne than buying a tired old has-been like Keane.Piquionne is older than Keane
You're quite right, I had no idea he was 31, he looks quite young.
Kanu, Yakubu and that bloke who was at Newcastle, have always had suspect official ages.I'd prefer taking a risk on Piquionne than buying a tired old has-been like Keane.Piquionne is older than Keane
You're quite right, I had no idea he was 31, he looks quite young.
Maybe he's one of those African 31's and it's even worse he's 48 or something. I bet Yakubu's in his 40's.
Obafemi Martins is meant to be 26. I'm sure he was 26 when we were linked with him a few years back.
Plays in Russia now. Cold will wreak havoc with his arthritis.
I wouldn't mind Lescott, and I understand he is a Villa fan...anybody know him on here?
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
I wouldn't mind Lescott, and I understand he is a Villa fan...anybody know him on here?
I will be seeing him at Christmas. I'll ask
I wouldn't mind Lescott, and I understand he is a Villa fan...anybody know him on here?
I will be seeing him at Christmas. I'll ask
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
should have signed him 18 mths ago , but shit, MON was manager
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
should have signed him 18 mths ago , but shit, MON was manager
That'd be 3 top 6 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe and 2 trips to Wembley MON?
I'd much rather lose to Blues and be 15th in the Prem with no chance any of the above happening.......err..
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
should have signed him 18 mths ago , but shit, MON was manager
That'd be 3 top 6 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe and 2 trips to Wembley MON?
I'd much rather lose to Blues and be 15th in the Prem with no chance any of the above happening.......err..
And, had he been even just very slightly more adventurous (both with his selection of youth and his view on non-UK footballers), he could have been "3 top 4 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe* and 2 wins at Wembley MON", his Villa career still intact and a wage-bill that wasn't questioned.
*Not sure where you got this bit from though.
Technically no as our three forays included two exits at the qualifying stage which means we didn't actually get into Europe.
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
should have signed him 18 mths ago , but shit, MON was manager
That'd be 3 top 6 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe and 2 trips to Wembley MON?
I'd much rather lose to Blues and be 15th in the Prem with no chance any of the above happening.......err..
And, had he been even just very slightly more adventurous (both with his selection of youth and his view on non-UK footballers), he could have been "3 top 4 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe* and 2 wins at Wembley MON", his Villa career still intact and a wage-bill that wasn't questioned.
*Not sure where you got this bit from though.
3 successive forays into Europe is based on us getting into Europe 3 times in a row.
Technically no as our three forays included two exits at the qualifying stage which means we didn't actually get into Europe.
Vienna is in Europe as far as I remember and we won't get another chance to exact revenge any time in the near future. We will not do as well under GH as we did under MON, I am willing to bet anyone, anything on that and it will be very difficult to attract players of any real quality because of this. We DID qualify for Europe 3 times in a row but were knocked out in the preliminary stage. Let's not split hairs over that.
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
should have signed him 18 mths ago , but shit, MON was manager
That'd be 3 top 6 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe and 2 trips to Wembley MON?
I'd much rather lose to Blues and be 15th in the Prem with no chance any of the above happening.......err..
And, had he been even just very slightly more adventurous (both with his selection of youth and his view on non-UK footballers), he could have been "3 top 4 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe* and 2 wins at Wembley MON", his Villa career still intact and a wage-bill that wasn't questioned.
*Not sure where you got this bit from though.
3 successive forays into Europe is based on us getting into Europe 3 times in a row.
If only he hadn't walked out on us at the worst possible moment, dropping us directly into the shit, shit which we're yet to climb out of.
would like us to sign falco from porto
scores hat trick last night in europa cup against rapid vienna
should have signed him 18 mths ago , but shit, MON was manager
That'd be 3 top 6 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe and 2 trips to Wembley MON?
I'd much rather lose to Blues and be 15th in the Prem with no chance any of the above happening.......err..
And, had he been even just very slightly more adventurous (both with his selection of youth and his view on non-UK footballers), he could have been "3 top 4 finishes, 6 straight wins over the Blues, 3 successive forays into Europe* and 2 wins at Wembley MON", his Villa career still intact and a wage-bill that wasn't questioned.
*Not sure where you got this bit from though.
3 successive forays into Europe is based on us getting into Europe 3 times in a row.
If only he hadn't walked out on us at the worst possible moment, dropping us directly into the shit, shit which we're yet to climb out of.
What's this 'shit' we're having to climb out of that is MON's fault? The main reason why we're having such a poor season so far is because we have a ridiculous injury list.
Of course MON walking out when he did has played a part in our poor season so far, that's fairly obvious, but we can't keep laying the blame totally at his door. The club took an awfully long time to appoint GH. The injury list is probably the worst i've ever known it at this club, GH has not been able to pick the same team twice, and our defence is not a patch on last season's. All contributing factors to why we're having a tough time of it.
Of course MON walking out when he did has played a part in our poor season so far, that's fairly obvious, but we can't keep laying the blame totally at his door. The club took an awfully long time to appoint GH. The injury list is probably the worst i've ever known it at this club, GH has not been able to pick the same team twice, and our defence is not a patch on last season's. All contributing factors to why we're having a tough time of it.
I'm not laying the blame totally at his door.
The injury crisis is terrible, you're right, and certain players have really let us down. The point i was making was that if you are going to compare what we are doing this season with what we did last season and the season before in an unfavourable light - as Holteenderinthesky did, you can not ignore that the manager of previous seasons leaving in the manner he did, when he did, is a major contributing factor to what has happened thus far this season.
The shit we are having to climb out of is,
1. Inadequate, over paid squad
2. Not time to buy new players
3. Totally inexperienced youth, because they have never been given even a chance, meaning we are blooding our youngsters all at once.
So this is the shit we are trying to climb out of all because of Mr Oneil.
Of course MON walking out when he did has played a part in our poor season so far, that's fairly obvious, but we can't keep laying the blame totally at his door.
Villa are also plotting a £7m move for Wigan winger Charles N'Zogbia.
Full story: Daily Star
Yes, with bells on.
But Villa will part company with keeper Brad Friedel in January after the club did a U-turn over plans to give him a new contract.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Can't see that.
Tottenham will target Fenerbahce striker Semih Senturk when Robbie Keane leaves in January.
Full story: IMscouting
They should look for a swap.
Bolton boss Owen Coyle admits he fears Swedish striker Johan Elmander will leave the Reebok Stadium in January if the right club comes in for him.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Go on then, you've conviced me.
Rosicky.. Yes please.
The guy is quality, I love how he can keep the ball under pressure and would certainly provide more opportunities for gabby.
I don't think he would leave Arsenel for us though sadly.
Clampy, considering the money he spent did o neill rally leave that good a squad behind? How many of our players would get into a top 5 side at the moment- James milner was the engine behind our team and we are missing him far more than we are missing o neill!
Houllier will get it right and take us further than o neill did but he will need time and patience to build his squad.
Regardless of what you think, MON's inferior squad came 6th for 3 seasons in a row, never lost to Spuds, or Ure in the Lge last year, and only lost x2 to the teams who finished in the top 4 last year.
MONs team played a certain way, and his teams were organized that way, thats why they never lost a great deal, GH plays a more expansive game, and that exposes the defence more.Better football, atm poorer results.
I would be very happy with N'Zogbia, with or without AYoung going.
Regardless of what you think, MON's inferior squad came 6th for 3 seasons in a row, never lost to Spuds, or Ure in the Lge last year, and only lost x2 to the teams who finished in the top 4 last year.
MONs team played a certain way, and his teams were organized that way, thats why they never lost a great deal, GH plays a more expansive game, and that exposes the defence more.Better football, atm poorer results.
I would be very happy with N'Zogbia, with or without AYoung going.
So after MON 'great' tenure as manger what have we got?
Fuck all. We have won nothing, got nowhere in Europe, have a shite squad and the football was shite.
And with regards to not loosing to spurs, we were embarrassed home and away last season by them and only this season were badly affected by heskey's injury.
So can we
Please please stop the Oneil loving, he is a ranker who never cared about the club.
Agger is potentially available. Left footed, ball playing. He'd be absolutely perfect for us.
McGregor
Young - Cuellar - Agger - Warnock
Clark
Albrighton - Rosicky - Bannan - Young
Gabby
Would be nice.
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Regardless of what you think, MON's inferior squad came 6th for 3 seasons in a row, never lost to Spuds, or Ure in the Lge last year, and only lost x2 to the teams who finished in the top 4 last year.
MONs team played a certain way, and his teams were organized that way, thats why they never lost a great deal, GH plays a more expansive game, and that exposes the defence more.Better football, atm poorer results.
I would be very happy with N'Zogbia, with or without AYoung going.
So after MON 'great' tenure as manger what have we got?
Fuck all. We have won nothing, got nowhere in Europe, have a shite squad and the football was shite.
And with regards to not loosing to spurs, we were embarrassed home and away last season by them and only this season were badly affected by heskey's injury.
So can we
Please please stop the Oneil loving, he is a ranker who never cared about the club.
Maybe not bringing MON up every time we lose a game would help.
Lets see what the table says at the end of the season and the end of next season.
Do you seriously expect the table is going to stay the same? Us and Everton battling relegation?
I'd like us to take a look at the following:I don't see why Chelsea would let their first choice right-back go. Or why he would leave Chelsea to come to us.
McGregor, Al-Habsi
Lescott, Agger, Bosingwa, Figueroa
Makoun, M'Vila, Rosicky, N'Zogbia,
Hoarau, Elmander
Are all realistic for us (I think). Most wouldn't command a big fee (N'Zogbia and M'Vila aside I think).
Lets see what the table says at the end of the season and the end of next season.
Do you seriously expect the table is going to stay the same? Us and Everton battling relegation?
Everton no, us yes. Under Gh I expect to stay up but with 42 points or so which means a battle to stay up, albeit a successful one. Then next season I expect more players the wrong side of 30 to join and for us to sell Ashley Young and finish bottom half again. I never felt that bad under MON is all I am saying.
I'd like us to take a look at the following:I don't see why Chelsea would let their first choice right-back go. Or why he would leave Chelsea to come to us.
McGregor, Al-Habsi
Lescott, Agger, Bosingwa, Figueroa
Makoun, M'Vila, Rosicky, N'Zogbia,
Hoarau, Elmander
Are all realistic for us (I think). Most wouldn't command a big fee (N'Zogbia and M'Vila aside I think).
As for first choice, that's only cos of injuries to others. He's had a few himself but he's firmly behind Ivanovic at right back and arguably Ferreria as well.Not in a million years.
Houllier wants Micheal Owen!Oh fuck no!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6554724,00.html
Can't see Milner coming back here, we've only gone backwards since he's left and there'd be other takers. As much as I like the bloke I'm sure he'd take a a move to Tottenham or Liverpool before he signed up here again.
Houllier wants Micheal Owen!
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6554724,00.html
I dunno about owen.
But I'm sure he is only on 40k a week at Manure.
I dunno about owen.
But I'm sure he is only on 40k a week at Manure.
A very interesting word combo..but I guess it shows how us fans have been beaten in to submission!
Owen? Keane? Cisse?
Wouldn't it just prove cheaper to hand Carew a new contract and stick with the useless has-been we already have? At least Carew's problems are more effort related than shitness related for the first two.
It's not 2002 FFS.
I would look no further than shay given for keeper - a top class keeper !He would be if he had ever taken a cross in his life.
I'd rather shay given dealing with crosses than either brad- given has been one of the best keepers over the last few years and would be very reliable in my opinion, certainly a better option than Allan mcgregor!Guzan is pretty ropey on crosses but Friedel is fine.
I'd rather shay given dealing with crosses than either brad- given has been one of the best keepers over the last few years and would be very reliable in my opinion, certainly a better option than Allan mcgregor!Guzan is pretty ropey on crosses but Friedel is fine.
Given is a very decent shot-stopper, but is no better than average at anything else. Friedel's command of his area and distribution is several leagues above Given.
Owen is currently out with a hamstring injury.
I had no idea this had happened, but just decided to check physioroom.com, as I was so certain that, if you take any random point in time, there is a good chance - 80 percent or higher - that Michael Owen will be injured.
Why we'd want to supplement an injury ravaged squad with another injury ravaged player is beyond me.
if our ambition is Robbie Keane then pull up a chair and watch mid table mediocrity for a long time, i really thought we had moved on from this type of signing,
mid table mediocrity- as opposed to???Bright future? Maybe mistakenly i thought the ambition is CL football and winning things, we will never do that by bringing has beens like Owen or Keene
I would think Shay Given would seem the obvious choice if available.
We could worse than do a bit of shopping at Man City.
The BBC gossip column is reporting that Villa (and others) are after Palace right back Clyne and Eng U21 keeper Jason Steele. Unfortunately - as I think they're both good prospects - this is from the Mirror.Don't we have the U19 Swiss goalie? Isn't he supposed to be something special?
A young prospect we do not appear to be linked with is Connor Wickham. I'd like to see us do a deal here maybe sending The Fonz there on loan as part of the deal. I understand that he is a lanky but skillful striker so could be the long term replacement for Heskey/Carew.
I would think Shay Given would seem the obvious choice if available.
Our position on the table makes it difficult to attract the better players.
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
Where did you hear that ?
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
Where did you hear that ?
My dad heard it from someone and he usually gets it right, told me we was signing young and shorey the day before it happened...
All of these players are realistic. Most of em want out of there clubs and the managers seem willing to let them go. That Gomes is a former Houllier player so wether its lazy journalism i dont know but he's heard it a few times. I also forgot to mention Djibrial Cisse!
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
Where did you hear that ?
My dad heard it from someone and he usually gets it right, told me we was signing young and shorey the day before it happened...
All of these players are realistic. Most of em want out of there clubs and the managers seem willing to let them go. That Gomes is a former Houllier player so wether its lazy journalism i dont know but he's heard it a few times. I also forgot to mention Djibrial Cisse!
That's worrying. Six months ago I wouldn't have had any of those (Gomes aside because I haven't seen him) in our starting eleven.
Given has total command of his goal line, and that's about it.Given makes some great saves. His handling and shot stoppings brilliant. Lescott could com in the defence and take Dunne or Collins out. Im not sure about Keane or Cisse though...
A great keeper for the cameras, less so if you're a centre half in front of him.
The point was these players are not going to push us past where we already were, and if true,we're going to spunk £30m to, at best, stand still.
Given has total command of his goal line, and that's about it.
A great keeper for the cameras, less so if you're a centre half in front of him.
The point was these players are not going to push us past where we already were, and if true,we're going to spunk £30m to, at best, stand still.
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
In other news Pigs have started to fly ;)
Not the £30 mill part, as Randy has always been forthcoming with funds,
Cannot see the players quoted wanting to join a team in real trouble.
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
In other news Pigs have started to fly ;)
Not the £30 mill part, as Randy has always been forthcoming with funds,
Cannot see the players quoted wanting to join a team in real trouble.
Would they join a team that is in imaginary trouble though?
Whilst there is no doubting the precariousness of our current predicament, we are still probably a more attractive proposition to most of those players than 70% of the other teams in the Premier League.
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
In other news Pigs have started to fly ;)
Not the £30 mill part, as Randy has always been forthcoming with funds,
Cannot see the players quoted wanting to join a team in real trouble.
Would they join a team that is in imaginary trouble though?
Whilst there is no doubting the precariousness of our current predicament, we are still probably a more attractive proposition to most of those players than 70% of the other teams in the Premier League.
Isn't Lescott a Villa fan? Wasn't his bro a youth years ago,Aaron is it?
Isn't Lescott a Villa fan? Wasn't his bro a youth years ago,Aaron is it?
Yeah Lescotts Villa and his bro played in the academy. Which is why he's even more realistic
Has he bollocks. There are a good half a dozen keepers above him on that particular list. At least.Given has total command of his goal line, and that's about it.
A great keeper for the cameras, less so if you're a centre half in front of him.
The point was these players are not going to push us past where we already were, and if true,we're going to spunk £30m to, at best, stand still.
Bulls*** .... he has been the best and most consistent Keeper in the last decade.
From what iv heard Houlliers getting 30 million in jan with Given, Lescott, Keane and a lad called Gomes from Lyon. Thats a promising start at least!
He means Gomis.
More links and stories up here about Ireland signing for Celtic on loan.
The only issue seems to be his wages.
What would be the point of sending Ireland out on loan?
i would be most disappointed if we swapped a hard worker who cant pass with a poor touch, for a headless chicken who cant pass with a poor touch and it cost us 7 million for the privilege...
I'd get McGregor in and maybe also Kieran Westwood from Coventry who I like a lot.
Has he bollocks. There are a good half a dozen keepers above him on that particular list. At least.Given has total command of his goal line, and that's about it.
A great keeper for the cameras, less so if you're a centre half in front of him.
The point was these players are not going to push us past where we already were, and if true,we're going to spunk £30m to, at best, stand still.
Bulls*** .... he has been the best and most consistent Keeper in the last decade.
He's great at throwing himself around on his goalline but he's barely claimed a cross in his life.
Friedel, Van Der Saar, James, Cech and Reina are five definites.
And I think you could make a pretty good case for Martyn, Jaaskelainen, Lehmann and Schwarzer as well.
There's a reason why a) he is second choice for his club and b) a lot of very decent defenders become suspiciously crap as soon as he starts playing behind them.
I can see why people would think he was great, most games he'll make a couple of astonishing saves and get on Match Of The Day. But mainly because he was in the wrong position to start with or because he didn't cut out the cross that the shot came from.
Juventus are prepared to let Momo Sissoko go to Aston Villa - but the Italian giants will demand £6m.
Full story: Daily Mail
Juventus are prepared to let Momo Sissoko go to Aston Villa - but the Italian giants will demand £6m.
Full story: Daily Mail
This is just the sort of player we need. A destroyer the middle.
It's a believable story on 3 counts.Juventus are prepared to let Momo Sissoko go to Aston Villa - but the Italian giants will demand £6m.
Full story: Daily Mail
This is just the sort of player we need. A destroyer the middle.
He looked like he could be a world beater when he first started out at Liverpool, not sure what's happened to him in recent years.
Re point 3. it has, it was in The Mirror yesterday.Oh bollocks.
Has he bollocks. There are a good half a dozen keepers above him on that particular list. At least.Given has total command of his goal line, and that's about it.
A great keeper for the cameras, less so if you're a centre half in front of him.
The point was these players are not going to push us past where we already were, and if true,we're going to spunk £30m to, at best, stand still.
Bulls*** .... he has been the best and most consistent Keeper in the last decade.
He's great at throwing himself around on his goalline but he's barely claimed a cross in his life.
Talking through your hole there, especially re crosses.
Half dozen better over the last 10 years?? Name them
Juventus are prepared to let Momo Sissoko go to Aston Villa - but the Italian giants will demand £6m.
Full story: Daily Mail
This is just the sort of player we need. A destroyer the middle.
Whenever I've seen him he's had the touch of a baby elephant, almost identical to NRC so I cant see the point.
He always the had potential to be a very good defensive midfielder. When he left Liverpool he was still very raw and I haven't had much opportunity to see him play since.
I would rather try and get somebody like M'Vila but if Sissoko has improved since his Liverpool days he could be a very useful addition. Christ knows we could use him right now.
Why would Juve want to get rid though?
Fuckin Sissoko, we may aswell play Osbourne.
Also why would he leave Juve for a team that will be in the relegation zone in january?
I have made my mind up, he's Osbourne's long lost brother, but at the same time if you're at Juventus you wouldn't leave for a team in the relegation zone with a shit manager.Fuckin Sissoko, we may aswell play Osbourne.
Also why would he leave Juve for a team that will be in the relegation zone in january?
Make your mind up. He's not good enough for us or he's too good for us?
I have made my mind up,Fuckin Sissoko, we may aswell play Osbourne.
Also why would he leave Juve for a team that will be in the relegation zone in january?
Make your mind up. He's not good enough for us or he's too good for us?
Is the young Sissoko at Toulouse a relation of Mommo, and if so can we mix them up at the airport and have the younger version.
That Benzema chap looked special tonight for some shit spanish side.
In all seriousness, a tough midfield man, a centre half, a left back and a keeper are all musts in Jan for me.
In all seriousness, a tough midfield man, a centre half, a left back and a keeper are all musts in Jan for me.
It all depends on what formation GH feels is our best way ahead, if he thinks 1 up front with another off the striker then I don't think a striker is that big a priority. However, if he wants to go 2 up front then I do think we need another one.
If it were up to me though I'd still look to bring one in anyway as a more direct competition for Gabby. I'd also want a new GK, Left Back and Defensive Midfielder. I'd also re-call Davies from his loan and tell him he has half a season to prove himself here.
I'd try and ship out some of the deadwood if possible (Salifou, Osbourne) as well as Carew, Sidwell and Dunne. However these may have to wait until the Summer.
Also, once we've got some players back from injury, I'd look to send Hogg, Baker, Lichaj, Herd and Weimann out on loan to Championship clubs to get some more experience.
I'm sure we were linked with Traore from Cluj the other week. Not sure what his domestic record is like but he's scored a few in the Chumps League this season.decent enough, but it is the romanian league...
I don't think I'd be looking to sign a CB right now..
OK, we're poor there right now, but we do know both Collins and Dunne are better than this and we also have Carlos. Personally, I'd target the DCM we all know we need, which would also free up Clark to go back to his best position, and if that doesn't solve the defensive problems look at CB in the summer.
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson is set to raid Aston Villa for England winger Ashley Young in a deal worth £15m.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Aston Villa also plan to firm up their interest in Robbie Keane with a £6m bid.
Full story: Daily Mail
We have needed a striker who can play every week and get goals for years now.
We should go for the French full-back whose been linked with Liverpool this morning... Rod Fanni.
If only to bring the schoolboy chuckles back to Villa Park.
Oh please RANDY.... YOUNG FANNI at full-backs would be the best pairing since we had Oscar ARCE and Barrie HOLE in midfield in the 60s.
We'd sell loads of shirts if he had No.8.
and being foreign we might even get away with putting his surname before his first name on the back of the programme.
Gotta go, teacher's back.
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Brilliant post. Cannot stop laughing .......
Been doing a bit of research on this French full-back Rod Fanni mentioned above.
Apparently got a Brazilian style... plays anywhere across the park but best when sitting on a big fella.
Prone to allowing the winger inside too easily and tends to be unavailable on a regular basis - usually one week in four.
Very popular in the dressing room though.
Worth a stab?
We have needed a striker who can play every week and get goals for years now.
We couldn't get one under Doug as they were too expensive and it is the one position MON never got quite right.
I have said Vagner Love would be a great signing last season and he is available. Him and Gabby up front would be a serious strike force ......Would he cope with the Prem though? New surroundings and all that. Plus he'll probably command a heft fee. And from when iv seen him he's been pretty lazy...
Been doing a bit of research on this French full-back Rod Fanni mentioned above.
Apparently got a Brazilian style... plays anywhere across the park but best when sitting on a big fella.
Prone to allowing the winger inside too easily and tends to be unavailable on a regular basis - usually one week in four.
Very popular in the dressing room though.
Worth a stab?
Too easily turned inside out.
Been doing a bit of research on this French full-back Rod Fanni mentioned above.
Apparently got a Brazilian style... plays anywhere across the park but best when sitting on a big fella.
Prone to allowing the winger inside too easily and tends to be unavailable on a regular basis - usually one week in four.
Very popular in the dressing room though.
Worth a stab?
Too easily turned inside out.
I don't think we should be spunking too much on a full back
Hopefully he wouldn't be a useless c**t like our current left back.Been doing a bit of research on this French full-back Rod Fanni mentioned above.
Apparently got a Brazilian style... plays anywhere across the park but best when sitting on a big fella.
Prone to allowing the winger inside too easily and tends to be unavailable on a regular basis - usually one week in four.
Very popular in the dressing room though.
Worth a stab?
Too easily turned inside out.
I don't think we should be spunking too much on a full back
He's too close to an arsehole.
Aston Villa and Tottenham are battling to secure the signature of Real Mallorca defender Ivan Ramis.
Ramis, 26, was strongly linked with a move to Celtic during the summer, but the move never materialised and he is now set for a £4m move to the Premier League next month.
The Spanish defender has been outstanding for Real Mallorca in La Liga this season and both Gerard Houllier and Harry Redknapp are keen to strengthen their defence in the January transfer window.
Reports in Spain suggest that both Aston Villa and Tottenham have made contact with Real Mallorca and are hoping to win the race to clinch his signature in the New Year.
Aston Villa interest in Cittadella goalkeeper Manolo Gabbiadini has kicked Juventus into action.
Villa are weighing up a bid for the 19 year-old keeper, whose contract is co-owned by Cittadella and Atalanta.
Juve GM Beppe Marotta is also a huge fan of Gabbiadini and anxious about keeping him in Italy.
It's understood Villa aren't the only English club to be in contact with Cittadella for information on the youngster.
Aston Villa and Tottenham are battling to secure the signature of Real Mallorca defender Ivan Ramis.
Ramis, 26, was strongly linked with a move to Celtic during the summer, but the move never materialised and he is now set for a £4m move to the Premier League next month.
The Spanish defender has been outstanding for Real Mallorca in La Liga this season and both Gerard Houllier and Harry Redknapp are keen to strengthen their defence in the January transfer window.
Reports in Spain suggest that both Aston Villa and Tottenham have made contact with Real Mallorca and are hoping to win the race to clinch his signature in the New Year.
Graham Rix loved the combination of Love, Young, Fanni.
I have said Vagner Love would be a great signing last season and he is available. Him and Gabby up front would be a serious strike force ......Would he cope with the Prem though? New surroundings and all that. Plus he'll probably command a heft fee. And from when iv seen him he's been pretty lazy...
Graham Rix loved the combination of Love, Young, Fanni.
and later Dicks
We have needed a striker who can play every week and get goals for years now.
In the Evening Mail Houllier has revealed the day after the Liverpool game they were "going to see a player in France" Wonder who ??
In the Evening Mail Houllier has revealed the day after the Liverpool game they were "going to see a player in France" Wonder who ??Lyon played Tuesday night. Take your pick..
If he were at the Lyon game he would have got to see this absolutely corking goal from Hapoel Tel Aviv's Eran Zahavi:
Revelliere is a decent full back isn't he? A fullback and forward in Gomis would be welcome. Can we have Makoun too!
From that list the only players I can distinctly recall seeing and being impressed by are Bastos, Pjanic and Cissokho.None of whom will be looking in our direction anytime soon.
The Evening Mail reported that Houllier ended up not going to the game in France, preferring to hold meetings with his coaching staff.
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Never said he went. Just mentioned he was going to see a player and ask the question. Wonder who .....
I never said you did say he was going, yer daft sod. (winky)The Evening Mail reported that Houllier ended up not going to the game in France, preferring to hold meetings with his coaching staff.Never said he went. Just mentioned he was going to see a player and ask the question. Wonder who .....
Who he buys in January will surely depend on the kind of set-up he wants to use.
If, for example, he wants to use a midfield destroyer and a playmaker, he could do worse than go for Sissoko as the destroyer and Badelj from Dinamo Zagreb as the playmaker.
Just for those that don't know about Badelj, he is 21/2 and likes to play from deep in the central midfield, spraying passes, not only wide but through the centre channels. It is because of his potential allied to what he already delivers that Zagreb were willing to let Modric leave.
We also need cover for the midfield destroyer type of role, so I would seriously consider Torosidis from Olympiakos. He's 25/6 and can play DM/RB/CB/LB. A short of John O'Shea type of player, versatile.
Also on loan at Olympiakos but belonging to St.Etienne is Kevin Miralles, who at 23/4 years of age can play RW/LW/SS or up front on his own.
Jelle Vossen, who we have been linked to anyway has been on form since he returned to RC Genk. He's hit 14 in 11 games. His valuation was £5 million.
Bloody hell he's young aint he!
We need a left back in January as a matter of urgency I would think, with there being no natural cover for Warnock.
The things to be considered I would think are, do we want a British player, or a continental player.
If we are going for a continental player do we go for a northern continental, or a southern continental. There are advantages in each, as well as disadvantages.
Northern continental players, Norwegians, Swedes, Danes, Belgians, French and Dutch tend to settle in in England fairly well and quickly, wheras southern continentals usually take time to adjust.
The southern continentals usually are more ball playing types, who naturally play a slow, slow, quick type of game.
All a matter of personal preference for the manager I suppose, and until we know what type of game he wants to play, surmising who he might want to buy is a waste of time.
I don't like this fixation GH has on foreign players. Whats wrong with good old fashioned british based players from the likes of west ham's reserves? What are our british scouts doing eh?
*runs off*
GH has said he cancelled a scouting mission to France to watch a champions league game this week. I know Marseille were at home,who was Lyon playing?
i'd like to see someone brought in for centre midfield come what may. Even if petrov and NRC recover they could get crocked again with our luck and the midfield is weak anyway. Ireland well, he looks a complete lemon, sidwell - shocking waste of money, and inconsistent kids lerning their trade. Gotta be addressed in January IMO
Would he be looking at Gomis then?
i'd like to see someone brought in for centre midfield come what may. Even if petrov and NRC recover they could get crocked again with our luck and the midfield is weak anyway. Ireland well, he looks a complete lemon, sidwell - shocking waste of money, and inconsistent kids lerning their trade. Gotta be addressed in January IMO
You're not wrong Greg, we need a midfield spoiler, who just stops the opposition in their tracks. Starts to make them think twice about coming forward!!
absolutely, we're crying out for a midfield bastardi'd like to see someone brought in for centre midfield come what may. Even if petrov and NRC recover they could get crocked again with our luck and the midfield is weak anyway. Ireland well, he looks a complete lemon, sidwell - shocking waste of money, and inconsistent kids lerning their trade. Gotta be addressed in January IMO
You're not wrong Greg, we need a midfield spoiler, who just stops the opposition in their tracks. Starts to make them think twice about coming forward!!
absolutely, we're crying out for a midfield bastardi'd like to see someone brought in for centre midfield come what may. Even if petrov and NRC recover they could get crocked again with our luck and the midfield is weak anyway. Ireland well, he looks a complete lemon, sidwell - shocking waste of money, and inconsistent kids lerning their trade. Gotta be addressed in January IMO
You're not wrong Greg, we need a midfield spoiler, who just stops the opposition in their tracks. Starts to make them think twice about coming forward!!
Here we go.
Man Utd plot £20m bid for Ashley Young (http://www.people.co.uk/sport/football/football-hotline/2010/12/12/aston-villa-revolt-gives-manchester-united-chance-to-have-a-bash-at-20m-ash-102039-22777382/)
I would take 20 million
Sell Ash for 20 mill all day, spend that 20 mill on a proven striker.
Unless he signs a new contract, but we can't let this January window pass without him signing or selling him.
£20m for Ashley? I'd take it, but at the end of the season, not in January.
Sell Ash for 20 mill all day, spend that 20 mill on a proven striker.
Unless he signs a new contract, but we can't let this January window pass without him signing or selling him.
We've never spent £20m on a single player and I don't think we're about to start that's without taking into account what it would do to our wage structure.
If we keep selling our best players and if fans keep encouraging the board to do it then we'll be forever playing second fiddle.
Former Celtic winger Aiden McGeady's short spell at Spartak Moscow looks set to be over with the Republic of Ireland international being lined up for a shock move to Aston Villa as Gerard Houllier's first January signing.
Full story: Sunday Mirror
I can't believe any Villa fans are welcoming the thought of him leaving though.
Former Celtic winger Aiden McGeady's short spell at Spartak Moscow looks set to be over with the Republic of Ireland international being lined up for a shock move to Aston Villa as Gerard Houllier's first January signing.
Full story: Sunday Mirror
Why would Houllier & O'Neill be interested in exactly the same players? Mcgready, Keane, bentley? It does not make sense..
if tevez is rated at 25 millions for example how about 13 millions plus fatty and baldy for him.I don't think you've quite grasped why he might be leaving Man City.
Regarding AYoung, from a football point of view, i would'nt sell him.
From a business point of view, you have a player who will not sign a contract, has 18 months left on his contract, and is worth £20m+, what will he be worth in 6 months time?
According to MMon Villa Talk, 6 are coming in and 8 out, so should be very interesting.
If that is true (which is by no means a given), then I expect it will mean over the next twelve months. No way we'll be doing that much in January.
Regarding AYoung, from a football point of view, i would'nt sell him.
From a business point of view, you have a player who will not sign a contract, has 18 months left on his contract, and is worth £20m+, what will he be worth in 6 months time?
According to MMon Villa Talk, 6 are coming in and 8 out, so should be very interesting.
i'd be worried if that was the case. We need a few more in, not two more out
Sidwell, Davies, Ireland(unlikely) we could lose without too much worry but another 5?
Friedel, Beye, Warnock, Dunne, Davies, Sidwell, Ireland and Carew.
Would be my guess. I doubt Osbourne and Salifou would register to be counted as actual departures.
Sell Ash for 20 mill all day, spend that 20 mill on a proven striker.
Unless he signs a new contract, but we can't let this January window pass without him signing or selling him.
We've never spent £20m on a single player and I don't think we're about to start that's without taking into account what it would do to our wage structure.
If we keep selling our best players and if fans keep encouraging the board to do it then we'll be forever playing second fiddle.
Former Celtic winger Aiden McGeady's short spell at Spartak Moscow looks set to be over with the Republic of Ireland international being lined up for a shock move to Aston Villa as Gerard Houllier's first January signing.
Full story: Sunday Mirror
Why would Houllier & O'Neill be interested in exactly the same players? Mcgready, Keane, bentley? It does not make sense..
I think Ashley will sign a new contract, possibly be Captain and we should make all attempt to encourage him to stay.
I also think that United story is utter bollocks.
If he doesn't want to sign a new contract then we'll have to consider offers unfortunately.
I can't believe any Villa fans are welcoming the thought of him leaving though.
I think Ashley will see who we buy in January, it is certainly one of the most important transfer windows we've had.
Sell Ash for 20 mill all day, spend that 20 mill on a proven striker.
Unless he signs a new contract, but we can't let this January window pass without him signing or selling him.
We've never spent £20m on a single player and I don't think we're about to start that's without taking into account what it would do to our wage structure.
If we keep selling our best players and if fans keep encouraging the board to do it then we'll be forever playing second fiddle.
Amen to that. People advocating selling our best players is just bizarre.
N'Zogbia can play right and left wide midfield equally as effectively and also offers cover at leftback. His delivery into the box is better than Ash's and he is liable to score more than Ash too.
N'Zogbia can play right and left wide midfield equally as effectively and also offers cover at leftback. His delivery into the box is better than Ash's and he is liable to score more than Ash too.
... For Wigan Athletic.
Maybe, but the reasons that JJ gives above are still fairly pertinent.N'Zogbia can play right and left wide midfield equally as effectively and also offers cover at leftback. His delivery into the box is better than Ash's and he is liable to score more than Ash too.
... For Wigan Athletic.
Doesn't that make anything he does more, rather than less, impressive, though?
The problem's been the wages they're on even before MON left. Some of the deadwood is unmoveable because of what they're on. Hopefully the likes of Davies seeing out his contract will give GH more scope for manourvering
Dont we already have a widening fella in Dunne?Good work !
I have to say I would sell him for anything over about 20 million this Jan. His age, contract and dwindling ability to have a major bearing on a game for us count against him. Also, realistically, I would quite like to see him playing at a United or Arsenal just to see if he was up to it.
It's a real shame, I reckon he'll be off come Summer for £12-14million.
We'll get over it, but it'll be a gutter to lose him 'cos he's one of the few who really cares for the cause.
Still, Downing on the left and Albrighton on the right with Gabby through the middle gives us a start to totally rebuild the midfield and attack from. Be it 4-4-2, 4-5-1 or 4-3-3.
sorry but that midfield would get walked over. Where's the tackler?
He meant a team like this.Hopefully he meant a team more like:
...........Freidel
Lichaj..Cuellar..Collins..Warnock
............NRC..Hogg
Albrighton..Ireland..downing
...............gabby
Head steward at stoke claims they will be in 4 ireland in jan. Thoughts ?How would he know?
Keeper wise, Westwood might well be going on a free in the Summer when his contract runs out, i'd be tempted, always thought he was a good keeper.
Certainly better than Guzan.
True, but i've got a feeling we'll be in for 2.Keeper wise, Westwood might well be going on a free in the Summer when his contract runs out, i'd be tempted, always thought he was a good keeper.
Certainly better than Guzan.
Shay Given ? he's not out of reach of us.
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Isn't Kallstom available for nowt in the summer too?He was also brought to Lyon by Houllier. Would be just the type of experienced midfielder we need at the moment.
He'd be very useful in the squad.
sorry but that midfield would get walked over. Where's the tackler?
He meant a team like this.Hopefully he meant a team more like:
...........Freidel
Lichaj..Cuellar..Collins..Warnock
............NRC..Hogg
Albrighton..Ireland..downing
...............gabby
...........Freidel
Onuoha..Cuellar..Collins..Santon
............Flamini..Diarra
Albrighton..Ireland..downing
...............gabby
Says on Sky Sports that villa are in for Valentin Stocker from Basel. 21 year old attacking midfielder.
A player whose name rhymes with Shocker.i can hear fuckwits like sean custis, mick dennis and oliver holte, rubbing their hands together in anticipation already...
A headline writer's dream.
Head steward at stoke claims they will be in 4 ireland in jan. Thoughts ?
A player whose name rhymes with Shocker.i can hear fuckwits like sean custis, mick dennis and oliver holte, rubbing their hands together in anticipation already...
A headline writer's dream.
Says on Sky Sports that villa are in for Valentin Stocker from Basel. 21 year old attacking midfielder.
There were reports in the press a couple of weeks back that pulis wants ireland on loan in January but I'd much prefer to cut our losses and sell- I thought he would be the perfect player for us but he has turned into another sidwell.
As for my squad in and outs over the next year or so.the squad definately needs an overhaul of this size, I think most of the players you've listed are gettable too, with maybe Falcao being the exception as I think Porto will demand a Lisandro Lopez type figure if and when they sell him
Mazrim's ruthless revolution Oktbober purge.
Ins:
Widefella
Cissokho
Lescott
Naughton (or Clyne)
Rakitic
M'Vila
Kallstrom
Falcao
Outs: (in a big bus)
Friedel
Dunne
Young
Beye
Davies
Warnock
Petrov
Sidwell
Ireland
Salifou
Osbourne
Carew
Squad:
Widefella (GK)
Guzan (GK)
Siegrist (GK)
Naughton (Clyne) (RB)
Lichaj (RB)
Lescott (CB, LB)
Cuellar (CB)
Collins (CB)
Clark (CB, CDM)
Williams (CB)
Cissokho (LB)
Lowry (CB, LB)
M'Vila (CDM)
Reo Coker (CDM)
Hogg (CDM)
Delph (CM)
Kallstrom (CM)
Rakitic (CM, AM)
Bannan (LM, CM)
Gardner (CM)
Young (FW, AM) Captain
Albrighton (RM, RW)
Downing (LM, LW)
Carruthers (RW, AM)
Johnson (AM)
Falcao (CF)
Agbonlahor (ST)
Heskey (ST)
Delfouneso (ST)
Weimann (CF)
Yes, I know some of them would prove difficult to get and/or expensive but it's just an example.
A fresh, young fully furnished squad. We have money to spend and if you agree with me, more than a few players to sell. Plus I think players like Rakitic, Weidenfeller and Kallstrom will be available for nowt soon and are fantastic players.
Sorry but Ireland has had a chance, he doesn't look bothered, he hasn't looked classy, he has looked poor.
Get rid. Move him on. The only difference between him and Sidwell as far as I can see is Sidwell tries, but the game by-passes him, while Ireland can't be arsed and the game by-passes him.
I find it strange that some people are unwilling to give him a fair crack of the whip, before "getting rid".A fair crack of the whip on his arse might wake him up a bit, can't remember the last time I saw a player so utterly devoid of interest.
Sorry but Ireland has had a chance, he doesn't look bothered, he hasn't looked classy, he has looked poor.
Get rid. Move him on. The only difference between him and Sidwell as far as I can see is Sidwell tries, but the game by-passes him, while Ireland can't be arsed and the game by-passes him.
He's had what, 10 appearences at most? The majority of those from the bench.
I find it strange that some people are unwilling to give him a fair crack of the whip, before "getting rid".
From today's gossip-
Sven-Goran Eriksson is preparing a £1.5m bid to make Tottenham defender Kyle Naughton's loan move to Leicester permanent.
Full story: Daily Mirror
Another promising youngster who has died a death at Tottenham. I thought him and Walker the other full back on loan at QPR were very good at Sheffield Utd. I wouldn't mind either or both with us challenging for full back positions, wouldn't cost the earth either.
Source in the press quoting Ireland as saying he will even play for Ireland again if it helps to get him a move away from villa- I'll paste article later as I'm on iPod but he's quoted as wanting to leave villa in January and fee of around £4m. Seems by all accounts he does not want to be here- if so good riddance!
“I am seriously thinking of calling Trap (Giovanni Trapattoni) in the next few weeks and hopefully can work my way back into his plans,” Ireland said.
“If I can¹t get a move in January then I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.”
Shame as on form he's just what we need.And we won't get it from him.
What an absolute waste of skin. I'm disgusted.I said he was a prick some weeks ago.
What an absolute waste of skin. I'm disgusted.I said he was a prick some weeks ago.
Proof positive that he doesn't want to knuckle down and simply doesn't give a shit.
Piss off Baldilocks.
I remember you saying it Chris, sadly, you were spot on.What an absolute waste of skin. I'm disgusted.I said he was a prick some weeks ago.
Proof positive that he doesn't want to knuckle down and simply doesn't give a shit.
Piss off Baldilocks.
This is just what I feared would happen with Ireland. I said when we were first linked that he has talent but a suspect attitude. I wish he'd have proved me wrong.
If this is accurate he can fuck off, I was more than prepared to give him a chance but if he isn't prepared to get his head down, his form right and earn his wages then bollocks to him.QuoteSource in the press quoting Ireland as saying he will even play for Ireland again if it helps to get him a move away from villa- I'll paste article later as I'm on iPod but he's quoted as wanting to leave villa in January and fee of around £4m. Seems by all accounts he does not want to be here- if so good riddance!Quote“I am seriously thinking of calling Trap (Giovanni Trapattoni) in the next few weeks and hopefully can work my way back into his plans,” Ireland said.
“If I can¹t get a move in January then I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.”
This is just what I feared would happen with Ireland. I said when we were first linked that he has talent but a suspect attitude. I wish he'd have proved me wrong.
If this is accurate he can fuck off, I was more than prepared to give him a chance but if he isn't prepared to get his head down, his form right and earn his wages then bollocks to him.QuoteSource in the press quoting Ireland as saying he will even play for Ireland again if it helps to get him a move away from villa- I'll paste article later as I'm on iPod but he's quoted as wanting to leave villa in January and fee of around £4m. Seems by all accounts he does not want to be here- if so good riddance!Quote“I am seriously thinking of calling Trap (Giovanni Trapattoni) in the next few weeks and hopefully can work my way back into his plans,” Ireland said.
“If I can¹t get a move in January then I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.”
and Ireland told friends: “I am seriously thinking of calling Trap in the next few weeks and hopefully can work my way back into his plans.
“If I can¹t get a move in January then I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.”
They are not direct quotes from Ireland.
The Daily fecking Mirror - Clicky (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Aston-Villa-s-Stephen-Ireland-will-play-for-the-Republic-of-Ireland-again-to-help-secure-a-transfer-move-article651169.html)
as he seeks a January move to Merseyside.
Correct, it should be a priviledge and an honour to play for your, he doesn't seem to see it like that. Never wanted him in the first place, fair play to our club honouring the deal, very noble of them, but really we should have just said, sorry, change of circumstances £8 mill instead please.
This is just what I feared would happen with Ireland. I said when we were first linked that he has talent but a suspect attitude. I wish he'd have proved me wrong.I never thought you rated him, Chris. Nothing to do with his attitude, you just never thought he was that good. To your credit, you're always prepared to give them a chance once they've signed for us.
Would you swap Ashley Young for James Milner?Probably, only because in Albrighton I think we've got a similar player coming through.
Does anyone know what sort off player Gary Gardner is? Who would be compared too currenly?
Keano from a reliable sourceOf course he wants to move to the Villa, we're the only club that will come close to paying him what he wants. If we can't find better, I'd offer him a two year contract with an option on a third year. Ideally I'd make it 18 months instead of two years but I doubt he'd accept it. Hopefully we've got other options.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23907139-robbie-keane-wants-aston-villa-deal-while-the-hammers-size-up-ohara.do
Keano from a reliable source
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23907139-robbie-keane-wants-aston-villa-deal-while-the-hammers-size-up-ohara.do
I think keane would be a good signing and would be a better finisher than we have at the club, gabby could learn a lot alongside him.
Would you swap Ashley Young for James Milner?Probably, only because in Albrighton I think we've got a similar player coming through.
I don't think we have a similar player to Milner coming through.
Does anyone know what sort off player Gary Gardner is? Who would be compared too currenly?
James Milner, so I'm told.
Does anyone know what sort off player Gary Gardner is? Who would be compared too currenly?
James Milner, so I'm told.
Would you swap Ashley Young for James Milner?
Keano from a reliable source
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-sport/football/article-23907139-robbie-keane-wants-aston-villa-deal-while-the-hammers-size-up-ohara.do
Would you swap Ashley Young for James Milner?
With you on this. Love Ashley but Milner offered so much more. I'd take him back too bloody rightWould you swap Ashley Young for James Milner?
Yes.
Does anyone know what sort off player Gary Gardner is? Who would be compared too currenly?
5 million on Keane would be a good deal. He never needed pace so could play till he is 33 ish at the top level, give experience after Carew has gone (maybe even to Spurs in a swap knowing Harry) and will score more than most of our forwards have in the last few years.Why has he only scored three goals in his last 29 games for Spurs then?
I'm probably one of the few who would not like Pienaar.You're not alone.
I think he's a bit of a wanker and vastly overrated.
I'm probably one of the few who would not like Pienaar.
I think he's a bit of a wanker and vastly overrated.
Add me to that list please. And I do hope Gardner will be as good as you believe, a successful midfield three of Hogg, Delph & Gardner would be something to behold.
I'm probably one of the few who would not like Pienaar.
I think he's a bit of a wanker and vastly overrated.
Anyone in mind Greg? I remember last year posting andy Carroll would be worth a punt - I just wish we had gone for him at the time - now I don't think he's gettable , a yr ago he would have gone for maybe £4m.
That's the kind of player we need though.
Celtic close in on loan deal for Aston Villa star Stephen Ireland
Celtic hope to receive clearance to pursue a six-month loan deal for unsettled Aston Villa star Stephen Ireland within the next 48 hours.As Sportsmail revealed 10 days ago, manager Neil Lennon wants to add star quality to his midfield by luring the Republic of Ireland international north. Last week, Lennon watched the player make a rare start in Villa's 3-0 defeat to Liverpool following an unsatisfactory summer switch from Manchester City.
The success of Celtic's pursuit will be dictated by a meeting between Ireland's agents and Villa owner Randy Lerner on Thursday. Lerner will be asked to foot half of Ireland's £68,000-a-week wage before sanctioning a move to Glasgow.
Ireland quit international football in 2007, but posted a Twitter message this week admitting he may ask coach Giovanni Trapattoni for a comeback to enhance his hopes of securing a move to another Barclays Premier League side.
Foot the bill: Celtic want Villa to pay half of Ireland's £68,000-a-week deal to complete the temporary switch
Excluded from Gerard Houllier's long-term plans, Ireland sees a benefit to joining Celtic and an international return.
He said: 'If I can't get a move in January, I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1339031/Celtic-close-loan-deal-Aston-Villa-star-Stephen-Ireland.html#ixzz18HiCIxjC
Good player but we've got the directness in Gabby (and Heskey) already.
I think we need someone with a little more guile, personally.
Kalinic and Santa Cruz fit that bill, Santa Cruz will be on too much and he's a little too old and Kalinic hasn't done enough to warrant a big move yet, IMO.
Llorente is another one, but Bilbao won't sell 'cos of their policy and why would he want to come here?
Dani Guiza is someone I wanted us to look at a while ago but he's 30 now.
But I'd prefer us to look for the next Berbatov than the next Peter Crouch.
The BBC Gossip column have reported that Man City want to buy Iniesta for £85m. Good luck with that... Muppets.
The site also has this about Onuoha:
"Defender Nedum Onuoha is ready to quit Manchester City and join Sunderland for £6m where he is enjoying a successful loan spell."
I thought he had joined Sunderland permanently. I'd have him for £6m. A long term replacement for Young.
£68,000 a week. It makes me want to throw my ribs up.Football is getting pathetic, when the likes of Salifou become millionaires within 2 years.
Interesting. I've never really rated him but he does seem to have hit new heights recently and been difficult to ignore.
Someone who has steadily improved over the last few years for club and country is Hugo Almeida from Werder Bremen and Portugal. Would be a good replacement for Carew. He's also takes a mean freekick, has a left foot that makes Tommy Hitz look like he has rickets! He's out of contract in the summer as well.
Good player but we've got the directness in Gabby (and Heskey) already.
I think we need someone with a little more guile, personally.
Kalinic and Santa Cruz fit that bill, Santa Cruz will be on too much and he's a little too old and Kalinic hasn't done enough to warrant a big move yet, IMO.
Llorente is another one, but Bilbao won't sell 'cos of their policy and why would he want to come here?
Dani Guiza is someone I wanted us to look at a while ago but he's 30 now.
But I'd prefer us to look for the next Berbatov than the next Peter Crouch.
Someone who has steadily improved over the last few years for club and country is Hugo Almeida from Werder Bremen and Portugal. Would be a good replacement for Carew. He's also takes a mean freekick, has a left foot that makes Tommy Hitz look like he has rickets! He's out of contract in the summer as well.
From The Mail, I see that a few on VT were saying that the Twitter account referred to is a fake.So Stephen Ireland wants us to pay him £884,000 to play for Celtic for the rest of the season? He's not as mad as people make if we agree to the blackmail. The money would be better spent at the Priory.QuoteCeltic close in on loan deal for Aston Villa star Stephen Ireland
Celtic hope to receive clearance to pursue a six-month loan deal for unsettled Aston Villa star Stephen Ireland within the next 48 hours.As Sportsmail revealed 10 days ago, manager Neil Lennon wants to add star quality to his midfield by luring the Republic of Ireland international north. Last week, Lennon watched the player make a rare start in Villa's 3-0 defeat to Liverpool following an unsatisfactory summer switch from Manchester City.
The success of Celtic's pursuit will be dictated by a meeting between Ireland's agents and Villa owner Randy Lerner on Thursday. Lerner will be asked to foot half of Ireland's £68,000-a-week wage before sanctioning a move to Glasgow.
Ireland quit international football in 2007, but posted a Twitter message this week admitting he may ask coach Giovanni Trapattoni for a comeback to enhance his hopes of securing a move to another Barclays Premier League side.
Foot the bill: Celtic want Villa to pay half of Ireland's £68,000-a-week deal to complete the temporary switch
Excluded from Gerard Houllier's long-term plans, Ireland sees a benefit to joining Celtic and an international return.
He said: 'If I can't get a move in January, I need to look at the summer and playing for Ireland will at least put me in the shop window.'
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1339031/Celtic-close-loan-deal-Aston-Villa-star-Stephen-Ireland.html#ixzz18HiCIxjC
in other news, according to some bollocks website called imscouting.com, Man City is going to bid for Iniesta. Apparently he's ready to switch addresses from beautiful Barcelona to the cold and damp North West of England and play for those money grabbing bastards. Thus no longer wanting to play alongside Xavi, Messi, Villa etc at the quite probably the most attractive, dominant and consistent club side in world football today. He'll probably convince those other 3 to join him in January too.
These rumours about McGeady and Keane are disturbing stuff.
I'm hoping that they are just that. Rumours.
Santa Cruz is also very, very shit.
Santa Cruz is also very, very shit.
Ah he's not though. Far from it.
We do get our knickers in a twist over unsubstantiated gossip. Every agent worth his salt will be touting all the unwanted players our way, we are one of the few clubs desperate to buy. If Ireland is on 65.000 then Man City is probably paying some of it.Why would they be paying any of it?
Now Ashley Young is out for a month,
Aston villa news and views have reported he has picked up an injury and is out for a month .................Now Ashley Young is out for a month,
Er...wha?
in other news, according to some bollocks website called imscouting.com, Man City is going to bid for Iniesta. Apparently he's ready to switch addresses from beautiful Barcelona to the cold and damp North West of England and play for those money grabbing bastards. Thus no longer wanting to play alongside Xavi, Messi, Villa etc at the quite probably the most attractive, dominant and consistent club side in world football today. He'll probably convince those other 3 to join him in January too.
He is currently a part of perhaps the best club side of all time. It would take puke inducing amounts of money to get him or any of that team.
in other news, according to some bollocks website called imscouting.com, Man City is going to bid for Iniesta. Apparently he's ready to switch addresses from beautiful Barcelona to the cold and damp North West of England and play for those money grabbing bastards. Thus no longer wanting to play alongside Xavi, Messi, Villa etc at the quite probably the most attractive, dominant and consistent club side in world football today. He'll probably convince those other 3 to join him in January too.
He is currently a part of perhaps the best club side of all time. It would take puke inducing amounts of money to get him or any of that team.
I think even poorly paid premiership footballers get vomit-inducing amounts of money.
Footballers. Not even good ones. Players who's name you'd struggle to remember if you had a gun to your head. Earning in the millions. Not doctors. Not brilliant engineers. Not award winning scientists. Just some knob who kicks a fucking ball. Millions.
It just doesn't make any fucking sense.
Footballers. Not even good ones. Players who's name you'd struggle to remember if you had a gun to your head. Earning in the millions. Not doctors. Not brilliant engineers. Not award winning scientists. Just some knob who kicks a fucking ball. Millions.And most of their wives are gorgeous.
It just doesn't make any fucking sense.
Aston Villa warned by Borussia Dortumund: We'll do everything in our power to keep hold of Weidenfeller
EXCLUSIVE
Gerard Houllier's transfer plans have been given a jolt after Borussia Dortmund vowed to do everything they could to hang on to keeper Roman Weidenfeller. The 30-year old is out of contract at the end of the season and is viewed by Aston Villa boss Houllier as the ideal long-term replacement for Villa Park veteran Brad Friedel.
Contact is believed to have been made, and Houllier is understood to have received a positive feedback from Weidenfeller about joining Villa on a Bosman free transfer next summer, by which time Friedel will have turned 40 and become a free agent himself.
But Bundesliga pacesetters Dortmund have responded by making it clear they will fight to extend the in-form keeper’s stay at the renamed Signal Iduna Park, formerly the Westfalenstadion. Weidenfeller has kept eight clean sheets in 16 appearances this season - the most by any keeper in the Bundesliga - and has played an integral part in Dortmund moving well clear of the pack at the top of the table. Michael Zorc, who spent his entire playing career at Dortmund as a central midfielder and is now the club’s general manager, revealed how their determination to hang on to Weidenfeller had been reinforced by Villa’s interest. There were suggestions Dortmund had given up hope of talking him into signing a new contract, but Zorc insisted: ‘We do not want to lose him and will be speaking to him again about his future.’
Villa remain confident they will win the battle for the experienced 6ft 2in stopper, though, after an indication he wants to test himself abroad and clear sign that Dortmund may struggle to match the terms Houllier is able to offer.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1339083/Aston-Villa-warned-Borussia-Dortumund-Well-fight-goalkeeper-Weidenfeller.html#ixzz18MVJCCso
Iv heard Michael Carricks coming to us in Jan. I dont think he'll join in all honesty. McGregor seem's a definate...
Am I the only one who doesn't get into a head spin regarding how much footballers get paid? It really doesn't bother me. They are paid what someone wants to give them. Yes it may noy be right but in an entertainment industry that we all pay into why not give the starts of the show the better salaries? He happens in all other popular forms of entertainment that has worlwide appeal. Whether in films, sport, or whatever.
Aston Villa are interested in Villarreal forward Guillermo Andres Lopez. The 18-year-old is also wanted by PSV Eindhoven and Barcelona. (Daily Mail)
Anyone know anything about him?
Am I the only one who doesn't get into a head spin regarding how much footballers get paid? It really doesn't bother me. They are paid what someone wants to give them. Yes it may noy be right but in an entertainment industry that we all pay into why not give the starts of the show the better salaries? He happens in all other popular forms of entertainment that has worlwide appeal. Whether in films, sport, or whatever.
Am I the only one who doesn't get into a head spin regarding how much footballers get paid? It really doesn't bother me. They are paid what someone wants to give them. Yes it may noy be right but in an entertainment industry that we all pay into why not give the starts of the show the better salaries? He happens in all other popular forms of entertainment that has worlwide appeal. Whether in films, sport, or whatever.
Looks like Ireland will be off in January then! Can't say I'm that fussed. Just hope we get most of the 8m back and spend it on a proper footballer.what is obvious is that a major clear out is needed before we add players to the squad
Aston Villa will sell Ireland (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/dec/17/aston-villa-sell-stephen-ireland-january)
To be honest that Guardian article makes us sound a shambles. And I'm really disappointed that Ireland has already jacked it in.
GH performed some major surgery when he first went to Liverpool that also led to the introduction of Gerrard and Carragher. He changed a lot of things very quickly and it led to a decent period of success for the club. I get the impression he's had just about enough with one or two at the club and they're just an unwanted distraction now. We need to get rid of a few, in January if possible, and bring in players who want to actually contribute.
To be honest that Guardian article makes us sound a shambles. And I'm really disappointed that Ireland has already jacked it in.
Needed doing and I'm very pleased our manager is tackling things head on. O'Neill left us with a huge tail of over-rated, over-paid dross
GH performed some major surgery when he first went to Liverpool that also led to the introduction of Gerrard and Carragher. He changed a lot of things very quickly and it led to a decent period of success for the club. I get the impression he's had just about enough with one or two at the club and they're just an unwanted distraction now. We need to get rid of a few, in January if possible, and bring in players who want to actually contribute.
GH performed some major surgery when he first went to Liverpool that also led to the introduction of Gerrard and Carragher. He changed a lot of things very quickly and it led to a decent period of success for the club. I get the impression he's had just about enough with one or two at the club and they're just an unwanted distraction now. We need to get rid of a few, in January if possible, and bring in players who want to actually contribute.
It's going to be a new dawn for the Villa.
Over recent years the spine of our team has been: Friedel, Dunne, Petrov, Milner, Young, Gabby, Carew.
Only Gabby could still be here come next season.
Instead I guess he'll build around Clark, Bannan, Albrighton... And give Lichaj, Hogg and Delfouneso more chances. As well as Gardner and Delph...
We're not going to go down, no chance. This is exactly the sort of thing some of us were championing pre-season.
Get some players who are on massive wages, but never going to improve to the level we need out, and replace them with the kids who could grow into top players, be Villa through and through and try to add bits of quality around them.
If 6th is our glass ceiling, I'd be much more happy with players we've created taking us there than Sidwell, Dunne, Petrov etc who are only here for the 50k+ a week pay cheques.
Going dowwwwn, going down, going down, going down, going down, go-in down...with JJ's squad.
The major investment in the squad took place under MON, I dont think that level of funding is now available, we have the chance to build on youth but i dont think we have any choice
Going dowwwwn, going down, going down, going down, going down, go-in down...with JJ's squad.
To follow on...
Guzan
Luke, Lichaj, Collins, Cuellar, Clark
Bannan, NRC, Petrov, Hogg, Delph
Ashley (hopefully), Downing, Albrighton
Gabby, Heskey, Delfouneso
Could easily be the only players from our current squad who are still here next season.
There should be circa £20million in the kitty already from Milner and Gardner sales.
It's going to be a very exciting 18 months.
It would not surprise me if GH make about 8-10 signings during the next two transfer windows. The majority of them will come next summer, of course.
Momo Sissoko mentioned in paper again and Sidwell signing for West Spam in January acc to NOTW...
Am I the only one who doesn't get into a head spin regarding how much footballers get paid? It really doesn't bother me. They are paid what someone wants to give them. Yes it may noy be right but in an entertainment industry that we all pay into why not give the starts of the show the better salaries? He happens in all other popular forms of entertainment that has worlwide appeal. Whether in films, sport, or whatever.
I don't really care too much either. Especially now, really whats the difference to your or me if they earn 80k or 200k week?
It's the average players who get paid loads that annoys me, especially at Villa. Beye's inparticular as he's never contributed.
To follow on...
Guzan
Luke, Lichaj, Collins, Cuellar, Clark
Bannan, NRC, Petrov, Hogg, Delph
Ashley (hopefully), Downing, Albrighton
Gabby, Heskey, Delfouneso
Could easily be the only players from our current squad who are still here next season.
There should be circa £20million in the kitty already from Milner and Gardner sales.
It's going to be a very exciting 18 months.
That selection would need an awful lot of addition and supplementing to do much more than avoid relegation, unfortunately.
Momo Sissoko mentioned in paper again and Sidwell signing for West Spam in January acc to NOTW...
Momo Sissoko mentioned in paper again and Sidwell signing for West Spam in January acc to NOTW...
I think he would be good for us, abit like Tiote at Newcastle.
Momo Sissoko mentioned in paper again and Sidwell signing for West Spam in January acc to NOTW...
I think he would be good for us, abit like Tiote at Newcastle.
Funny you should mention that name. I was talking football to someone a few months back and he said Tiote was just the player we needed. I'd barely heard of him at that point.
If the traditional turmoil happens at Newcastle this season then we could do worse.
Don't shoot the messenger......Joey Barton linked to us in the People
Don't shoot the messenger......Joey Barton linked to us in the People
Isn't the worst idea I've ever heard. *runs*
Don't shoot the messenger......Joey Barton linked to us in the People
Isn't the worst idea I've ever heard. *runs*
Don't shoot the messenger......Joey Barton linked to us in the People
Isn't the worst idea I've ever heard. *runs*
Who got sport's personality of the year?
Who got sport's personality of the year?
Stephen Ireland.
His horse did. He was just the little berk weighing it down a bit.
Should have given it to the horse(s). Ridiculous award.
His horse did. He was just the little berk weighing it down a bit.
Should have given it to the horse(s). Ridiculous award.
In the same way that a Formula 1 driver is just weighing the car down.
His horse did. He was just the little berk weighing it down a bit.
Should have given it to the horse(s). Ridiculous award.
In the same way that a Formula 1 driver is just weighing the car down.
How good was Houllier's transfer record at Liverpool (and for the John Blackwell usurpers out there, at Lyon)? I remember a lot of third-rate shite - Titi Camara, Eric Meijer, Diao, Diouf, Biscan etc. Did he buy Nick Barmby aswell? He wasn't so bad but I don't remember there being that many unqualified successes.
Who was the left winger he signed at Liverpool who played about 4 times in 4 years -Bernard something? Demede?Bernard Diomede.
His horse did. He was just the little berk weighing it down a bit.
Should have given it to the horse(s). Ridiculous award.
In the same way that a Formula 1 driver is just weighing the car down.
No not at all. A Formula one car is not an animal with a mind and will of its own.
It cannot win on its own. It is completely dependent on the skill of the driver. It is "equpiment".
Sorry, even though I was being deliberately flippent and mishceivous, I'm not having it. When you have the world's best spin bowler, a champion multi-discipline athlete, a world heavyweight boxing champion amongst others as competition, I cant believe they gave it to a glorified horse ornament.
Just my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it.
His horse did. He was just the little berk weighing it down a bit.
Should have given it to the horse(s). Ridiculous award.
In the same way that a Formula 1 driver is just weighing the car down.
No not at all. A Formula one car is not an animal with a mind and will of its own.
It cannot win on its own. It is completely dependent on the skill of the driver. It is "equpiment".
Sorry, even though I was being deliberately flippent and mishceivous, I'm not having it. When you have the world's best spin bowler, a champion multi-discipline athlete, a world heavyweight boxing champion amongst others as competition, I cant believe they gave it to a glorified horse ornament.
Just my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it.
Well I don't agree with you. Wasn't it voted for by the public?
Aston Villa are keen on Newcastle midfielder Joey Barton.
Full story: Daily Mail
This particular part of Aston Villa isn't keen on him at all.
Who was the left winger he signed at Liverpool who played about 4 times in 4 years -Bernard something? Demede?Bernard Diomede.
Barton is a good player who would improve us.
But he is on £80k a week, he isn't going nowhere, the same reason they all stayed there when they were relegated.
That's 'World Cup winner Bernade Diomede'.Who was the left winger he signed at Liverpool who played about 4 times in 4 years -Bernard something? Demede?Bernard Diomede.
How good was Houllier's transfer record at Liverpool (and for the John Blackwell usurpers out there, at Lyon)? I remember a lot of third-rate shite - Titi Camara, Eric Meijer, Diao, Diouf, Biscan etc. Did he buy Nick Barmby aswell? He wasn't so bad but I don't remember there being that many unqualified successes.
Not ever imagining I could usurp the Blackwell....but it seems that Houllier signed amongst others:
John Carew
Fred
Thiago
Nilmar (on loan)
Jeremy Toulalon
Alou Diarra
Kim Kallstrom
Sébastien Squillaci
and Milan Baros...
He also gave Loic Remy his break through as a 19 year old. Looking at the lists of ins and outs, it's clear to see that he a) likes to mark his own stamp on a club and b) likes to promote from the youth team! Both fairly promising signs for the future. Plus he seems to have a liking for Defensive Midfielders and Strikers!!
His horse did. He was just the little berk weighing it down a bit.
Should have given it to the horse(s). Ridiculous award.
In the same way that a Formula 1 driver is just weighing the car down.
No not at all. A Formula one car is not an animal with a mind and will of its own.
It cannot win on its own. It is completely dependent on the skill of the driver. It is "equpiment".
Sorry, even though I was being deliberately flippent and mishceivous, I'm not having it. When you have the world's best spin bowler, a champion multi-discipline athlete, a world heavyweight boxing champion amongst others as competition, I cant believe they gave it to a glorified horse ornament.
Just my opinion. Nobody has to agree with it.
Well I don't agree with you. Wasn't it voted for by the public?
it was voted for by the public, so it wasn't given to McCoy by the bbc, and he polled 40% of the vote, which is massive in a 10 horse race (get it) so maz your opinion is very much in the minority this time, and phil the power taylor came second
Summat about the fallout from the ITV phoneline scandal when they were charging poor buggers even after competition lines were closed.
I've not seen Goal of the Month this season - have there been any Villa goals in the monthly top tens?
How good was Houllier's transfer record at Liverpool (and for the John Blackwell usurpers out there, at Lyon)? I remember a lot of third-rate shite - Titi Camara, Eric Meijer, Diao, Diouf, Biscan etc. Did he buy Nick Barmby aswell? He wasn't so bad but I don't remember there being that many unqualified successes.
Not ever imagining I could usurp the Blackwell....but it seems that Houllier signed amongst others:
John Carew
Fred
Thiago
Nilmar (on loan)
Jeremy Toulalon
Alou Diarra
Kim Kallstrom
Sébastien Squillaci
and Milan Baros...
He also gave Loic Remy his break through as a 19 year old. Looking at the lists of ins and outs, it's clear to see that he a) likes to mark his own stamp on a club and b) likes to promote from the youth team! Both fairly promising signs for the future. Plus he seems to have a liking for Defensive Midfielders and Strikers!!
Thanks for that. Hmm, I must say that does restore my confidence somewhat. Some really quality players there - would be even more impressed if they actually improved at Lyon (which I honestly don't know). Kallstrom was the golden boy for the Champ manager generation but did he pull up any trees after leaving Sweden?
Barton is a good player who would improve us.
But he is on £80k a week, he isn't going nowhere, the same reason they all stayed there when they were relegated.
Joey Barton is a scumbag who would improve our scumness definitely.
How good was Houllier's transfer record at Liverpool (and for the John Blackwell usurpers out there, at Lyon)? I remember a lot of third-rate shite - Titi Camara, Eric Meijer, Diao, Diouf, Biscan etc. Did he buy Nick Barmby aswell? He wasn't so bad but I don't remember there being that many unqualified successes.
Not ever imagining I could usurp the Blackwell....but it seems that Houllier signed amongst others:
John Carew
Fred
Thiago
Nilmar (on loan)
Jeremy Toulalon
Alou Diarra
Kim Kallstrom
Sébastien Squillaci
and Milan Baros...
He also gave Loic Remy his break through as a 19 year old. Looking at the lists of ins and outs, it's clear to see that he a) likes to mark his own stamp on a club and b) likes to promote from the youth team! Both fairly promising signs for the future. Plus he seems to have a liking for Defensive Midfielders and Strikers!!
Thanks for that. Hmm, I must say that does restore my confidence somewhat. Some really quality players there - would be even more impressed if they actually improved at Lyon (which I honestly don't know). Kallstrom was the golden boy for the Champ manager generation but did he pull up any trees after leaving Sweden?
John Carew - £6.6m from Besiktas
Fred - £13.7m from Cruzeiro
Thiago - £8.8m from Chelsea
Nilmar (on loan)
Jeremy Toulalon - £6.1m from FC Nantes
Alou Diarra - £5.5m from RC Lens
Kim Kallstrom - £5.2m from Rennes
Sébastien Squillaci - £3.9m from Monaco
Some pretty good deals there to be fair! Biggest fee was for Fred, but to be fair he was a 21 year old Brazilian wonderkid at the time, 40 goals in 43 games for Cruzeiro in one season. He scored goals for Lyon too 41 goals in 119 games, which isn't too bad.
Also worth noting is, GH was in charge when Lyon sold Essien to Chelsea for £26m and Mahamadou Diarra to Real Madrid for £23m. So he knows how to hold out for proper money too.
Chelsea have put a possible £15m move for Blackburn defender Phil Jones on hold after his season-ending knee injury.
Can anyone name all those Liverpool players in the pics?
I bet Dave (from Bath) can.
Whilst I'm fairly certain it is, I hope that the link with Barton is bollocks.
I dont want that scuttering eejit anywhere near this club, never mind wearing it's shirt.
Villa are happy to ship out Sidwell as they trim some of their big earners under the orders of owner Randy Lerner. He was one of their best-paid players after Martin O’Neill talked him into moving, one of many expensive legacies from the former manager’s time.
Villa are happy to ship out Sidwell as they trim some of their big earners under the orders of owner Randy Lerner. He was one of their best-paid players after Martin O’Neill talked him into moving, one of many expensive legacies from the former manager’s time.
And, not denigrating his achievements here, that says it all about MON's deficiencies.
Villa are happy to ship out Sidwell as they trim some of their big earners under the orders of owner Randy Lerner. He was one of their best-paid players after Martin O’Neill talked him into moving, one of many expensive legacies from the former manager’s time.
And, not denigrating his achievements here, that says it all about MON's deficiencies.
Happy to see him go as he doesn't offer us much at all. Have a sneaky feeling though that a few weeks from now he might be playing decently and we'll all be wondering who the hell that is in what looks like a claret and blue shirt.
Basically, Sidwell had one decent season, followed by spells with two much bigger clubs where he couldn't cut it
Basically, Sidwell had one decent season, followed by spells with two much bigger clubs where he couldn't cut it
I think that's the problem with him and a lot of players like him. They look great at a 'smaller' club where the team is built round them, but when they move up a level and need to adapt their game to those around them, then they can't.
In truth he's probably a better player than we think, but not as good as we need!
Small fish/big pond syndrome.
Basically, Sidwell had one decent season, followed by spells with two much bigger clubs where he couldn't cut it
I think that's the problem with him and a lot of players like him. They look great at a 'smaller' club where the team is built round them, but when they move up a level and need to adapt their game to those around them, then they can't.
In truth he's probably a better player than we think, but not as good as we need!
Small fish/big pond syndrome.
Notice that some Man City fans were critical of Milner last night, why do some players think they are better than they are.Not playing him in his best position doesn't help. But fcuk em,let him go to waste their. Even though Mancini bought him,i dont think he has much of a career their while he's boss,as im sure bigger name signings will come. I'd have him back in a cut price deal!
Notice that some Man City fans were critical of Milner last night, why do some players think they are better than they are.Not playing him in his best position doesn't help. But fcuk em,let him go to waste their. Even though Mancini bought him,i dont think he has much of a career their while he's boss,as im sure bigger name signings will come. I'd have him back in a cut price deal!
Yeah,him and Gardner can be the future,but you can expect too much consistancy for a couple of years or so. We've badly missed Milners energy in the midfield. He's not getting the chance to show that at City as they have Toure,but as i said,fcuk him and city!Notice that some Man City fans were critical of Milner last night, why do some players think they are better than they are.Not playing him in his best position doesn't help. But fcuk em,let him go to waste their. Even though Mancini bought him,i dont think he has much of a career their while he's boss,as im sure bigger name signings will come. I'd have him back in a cut price deal!
I'm not so sure. I think Delph will play the Milner role in the future...and do it better!
The BBC gossip column is saying this...
West Ham's current star striker, Frederic Piquionne, has rejected reports that he will leave the Hammers for Aston Villa when the January transfer window opens.
Full story: Goal.com
Meanwhile, Aston Villa are poised to make a £1m for Lokomotiv Moscow star Alan Gatagov.
Full story: talkSPORT
Piquionne could be worth a punt depending on his fee, I don't know anything about Gatagov? I shall have to google him!
If he isnt good enough for West Ham,he definetly isn't for us.....see M Harewood.The BBC gossip column is saying this...
West Ham's current star striker, Frederic Piquionne, has rejected reports that he will leave the Hammers for Aston Villa when the January transfer window opens.
Full story: Goal.com
Meanwhile, Aston Villa are poised to make a £1m for Lokomotiv Moscow star Alan Gatagov.
Full story: talkSPORT
Piquionne could be worth a punt depending on his fee, I don't know anything about Gatagov? I shall have to google him!
Wouldnt be impressed with Piquionne
Newcastle are willing to let Barton go for £1.5m
I've got a feeling that it's going to happen.
Parker will go to Spurs, as everyone knows there struggling for midfielders!
Piquionne is a difficult one.
Newcastle are willing to let Barton go for £1.5m
I've got a feeling that it's going to happen.
I wouldn't mind Barton at all, I know people will shoot me down, but from a football point of view it's a good cheap move.
Sidwell to West Ham that's the best xmas present ever
Whilst I'm fairly certain it is, I hope that the link with Barton is bollocks.
I dont want that scuttering eejit anywhere near this club, never mind wearing it's shirt.
Basically, Sidwell had one decent season, followed by spells with two much bigger clubs where he couldn't cut it
I think that's the problem with him and a lot of players like him. They look great at a 'smaller' club where the team is built round them, but when they move up a level and need to adapt their game to those around them, then they can't.
In truth he's probably a better player than we think, but not as good as we need!
Small fish/big pond syndrome.
Here,here,don't want that scumbag anywhere near the club. Could easily be the beginning of the end for gh if that signing went tits up.Whilst I'm fairly certain it is, I hope that the link with Barton is bollocks.
I dont want that scuttering eejit anywhere near this club, never mind wearing it's shirt.
Agreed, I don't want that vile racist thug at Villa
Scott Parker will go to Spurs, and the fact he isn't Champions League cup tied means Redknapp will work hard to sign him.Does that mean we'll end up with Jenas? I'd take Palacios.
He wouldn't come here.
if JB cost 1.5 millions and available for transfer I could think of a team would suit him. Small Heath Alliance.
if JB cost 1.5 millions and available for transfer I could think of a team would suit him. Small Heath Alliance.
Enough is enough they already have Bowyer!
if JB cost 1.5 millions and available for transfer I could think of a team would suit him. Small Heath Alliance.
Enough is enough they already have Bowyer!
Can we please stop talking about Barton....everytime I picture him, a little bit of sick forms in my mouth!
if JB cost 1.5 millions and available for transfer I could think of a team would suit him. Small Heath Alliance.
Enough is enough they already have Bowyer!
Can we please stop talking about Barton....everytime I picture him, a little bit of sick forms in my mouth!
Plus he's just a distinctly average player at best (and I'm being most generous in that description). He had one good season at City 5-6 years ago.
if JB cost 1.5 millions and available for transfer I could think of a team would suit him. Small Heath Alliance.
Enough is enough they already have Bowyer!
Can we please stop talking about Barton....everytime I picture him, a little bit of sick forms in my mouth!
Plus he's just a distinctly average player at best (and I'm being most generous in that description). He had one good season at City 5-6 years ago.
While I would never condone having him at our club, he is still a good player. He is better than NRC, Sidwell & Hogg. So that "distinctly average" player would be an upgrade to our lower than distinctly average squad.
Doesn't change the fact that he is an idiot and I do not want him
He is an improvement on petrov. So let's wait and see, probably all rubbish anyway.
What about Youri Djorkaeff? Is he doing much these days?
Stephen Warnock may join long list of players set to leave Aston Villa•
Stuart James The Guardian, Wednesday 22 December 2010 Article history
Gérard Houllier is planning an overhaul of his Aston Villa squad that could see as many as nine players leave the club before the start of next season. Steve Sidwell and Curtis Davies are expected to lead the exodus, although there may also be a few surprising names on the list, including the England international Stephen Warnock.
The Villa manager is looking to offload a number of senior players who are on the periphery of the first team as well as those who have been resistant to the changes he has introduced since taking charge in September. Richard Dunne, Stephen Ireland and John Carew, who were all left out of the squad who travelled to Wigan Athletic before Saturday's game was postponed, are expected to move on. Carew's contract is up in the summer and there is no prospect of him being offered a new deal.
It is understood that Brad Friedel, who will turn 40 in May, has also been told his contract will not be renewed in the summer. Villa have begun looking for a replacement for the former Blackburn Rovers goalkeeper. Roman Weidenfeller, the 30-year-old Borussia Dortmund keeper, was watched at the weekend. Houllier is also closely monitoring Allan McGregor's situation at Rangers.
Houllier is today expected to sit down with Randy Lerner, Villa's owner, to discuss plans for the January window. The club are looking to change their recruitment strategy and will seek to target promising young talent as opposed to experienced players in the twilight of their career who come with big wage demands and have no sell-on fee. For that reason Villa have no interest in signing Robbie Keane from Tottenham Hotspur despite continued speculation.
With Nigel Reo-Coker's new contract discussions at an impasse, it remains a strong possibility the midfielder will leave on a free transfer at the end of the season. Sidwell is on the verge of completing a move to West Ham United. Habib Beye, who has started only seven Premier League games for Villa, will also be encouraged to find another club.
While Villa supporters will not be surprised at most of the players Houllier is looking to shift, Warnock's name will raise a few eyebrows. Although the left-back's form tailed off towards the end of last season, he was named in the England squad for the World Cup and has generally been a solid performer. Houllier, however, has already set the wheels in motion to bring in a new left-back in the summer.
Davies, who is on loan at Leicester City, has been told he can leave Villa for £2.5m. He has attracted interest from Wolverhampton Wanderers, Stoke City and Bolton Wanderers, as well as Werder Bremen. "It's no secret Villa have made it quite clear Curtis is available," said Phil Sproson, Davies's agent. "There is an agreement in terms of the price, which is very competitive given his quality and experience. We are considering a couple of options, including the possibility of going overseas."
While Villa supporters will not be surprised at most of the players Houllier is looking to shift, Warnock's name will raise a few eyebrows.
QuoteWhile Villa supporters will not be surprised at most of the players Houllier is looking to shift, Warnock's name will raise a few eyebrows.
Oh yes.
We are all giving it the full Roger Moore.
So Beye, Davies, Dunne, Warnock, Sidwell, Ireland and Carew all possible departures in Jan
With Friedel not being offered a new deal and Nige unless he drops his demands.
Pretty much what we all wanted, which is nice.
I can't see us shifting Dunne though, atleast not without a big fuck off crane and truck saying "Wide Load".
I think Dunne would be pretty easy to move on if we needed to.
It's only six months since he was in the Premier League 'Team Of The Year' and that will give him an awful lot of credit with people who haven't seen him play too much this season.
A few clubs will be getting a bargain.
A few clubs will be getting a bargain.
I am not so sure. I cannot think of a heavier player in the Premier League.
A few clubs will be getting a bargain.
I am not so sure. I cannot think of a heavier player in the Premier League.
So they'll get more for their money.
like to see him fit before we flog him.Can't see that happening.
Don't know what to make of Dunne, we shouldnt forget he was excellent for us not long ago but we wouldn't miss the others mentioned if they are properly replaced. Big if.
If the Guardian article is to be believed then I think Houlier has his finger right on the pulse.
It all depends on who he brings in now.
I think Dunne would be pretty easy to move on if we needed to.
It's only six months since he was in the Premier League 'Team Of The Year' and that will give him an awful lot of credit with people who haven't seen him play too much this season.
If the Guardian article is to be believed then I think Houlier has his finger right on the pulse.
It all depends on who he brings in now.
It all depends on who's available.
Most likely it was Randy and Paul Faulkner.If the Guardian article is to be believed then I think Houlier has his finger right on the pulse.
It all depends on who he brings in now.
It all depends on who's available.
That too. But, if you are intending to ship out certain players you surely must have replacements lined up, at least you'd hope so.
Anyway, a mates daughter who works at the Cock Inn in Wishaw seen Houlier in there the other day with two other men. The youngest of which did no talking, I can only assume he was a shy and passive type footballer.
Most likely it was Randy and Paul Faulkner.If the Guardian article is to be believed then I think Houlier has his finger right on the pulse.
It all depends on who he brings in now.
It all depends on who's available.
That too. But, if you are intending to ship out certain players you surely must have replacements lined up, at least you'd hope so.
Anyway, a mates daughter who works at the Cock Inn in Wishaw seen Houlier in there the other day with two other men. The youngest of which did no talking, I can only assume he was a shy and passive type footballer.
A turist in Wishaw? Unlikely, unless he'd been playing golf at the Belfry. Maybe it was Angel Cabrera's son.Most likely it was Randy and Paul Faulkner.If the Guardian article is to be believed then I think Houlier has his finger right on the pulse.
It all depends on who he brings in now.
It all depends on who's available.
That too. But, if you are intending to ship out certain players you surely must have replacements lined up, at least you'd hope so.
Anyway, a mates daughter who works at the Cock Inn in Wishaw seen Houlier in there the other day with two other men. The youngest of which did no talking, I can only assume he was a shy and passive type footballer.
Maybe the younger lad was South American and spoke neither English or French....
No, she knows who they are.
Has no one done the old, how far is the Cock Inn gag yet?If the Guardian article is to be believed then I think Houlier has his finger right on the pulse.
It all depends on who he brings in now.
It all depends on who's available.
That too. But, if you are intending to ship out certain players you surely must have replacements lined up, at least you'd hope so.
Anyway, a mates daughter who works at the Cock Inn in Wishaw seen Houlier in there the other day with two other men. The youngest of which did no talking, I can only assume he was a shy and passive type footballer.
Ray Allen was the older bloke doing the talking. We are signing Lord Charles, nailed on
Ray Allen was the older bloke doing the talking. We are signing Lord Charles, nailed on
Can't you be serious for once, you silly arse?
Lord Charles is clearly older than Ray Allen and does all the talking.
Therefore we're signing Ray Allen.
The only other option I have is that it was an alien being from Proxima Centauri, channeling it's will through a human host.
It wont move any closer to Villa Park than the Oort cloud but is commited and will prove this by accepting a contract of only 17.3 Zorgs per orbital cycle and a Zzubian Interstellar GT with tinted windows and a subatomic particle bass accelerator.
I still think he's a decent player. I wouldn't be against it.
Bentley, that is.
Because Ireland bought his missus a Bentley?I still think he's a decent player. I wouldn't be against it.
Bentley, that is.
why do I think Stephen Ireland when I think of David Bentley?
Because Ireland bought his missus a Bentley?I still think he's a decent player. I wouldn't be against it.
Bentley, that is.
why do I think Stephen Ireland when I think of David Bentley?
No thanks to Samba.
We can hopefully will be shopping at a higher level than him.
If the Wiedenfeller and Wheater rumours are true that would back up the rumour that Houllier won't have big money to spend until the Summer.
If the Wiedenfeller and Wheater rumours are true that would back up the rumour that Houllier won't have big money to spend until the Summer.
No thanks to Samba.
We can hopefully will be shopping at a higher level than him.
We always say this and then we sign Wheater.
Samba is a much better centre half, I'd be amazed with Dunney preparing to leave if we're not in for him.
If the Wiedenfeller and Wheater rumours are true that would back up the rumour that Houllier won't have big money to spend until the Summer.
Why would it? If there's big money you don't have to spend it all on one or two players. There must be bargains to be had. With, hopefully, a decent scouting system now installed maybe we'll get some of them.
Whether Weidenfuller and Wheater would be bargains, no idea.
Those two slimy turds at West Ham are beyond belief. Give the manager three games to save his job - then sell his best player from under him. The player who definitely wasn't for sale. That player.
Those two slimy turds at West Ham are beyond belief. Give the manager three games to save his job - then sell his best player from under him. The player who definitely wasn't for sale. That player.
Why sell Curtis Davies and bring Wheater in for the same money? This is reminding me of the GT2 reign. No player with an ounce of ambition will come to us if Wheater is the kind of player we will sell Davies and Dunne to bring in.
Why sell Curtis Davies and bring Wheater in for the same money? This is reminding me of the GT2 reign. No player with an ounce of ambition will come to us if Wheater is the kind of player we will sell Davies and Dunne to bring in.
Because attitude is a major component of success in any walk of life. Dunne and Davies represent the past and are bitter at change and rejection. Wheater would look at this as a massive opportunity to push on in his career. If you can get him for net return of 3 or 4 mil given the sale of the other two, then it's a deal worth making.
They haven't yet. But they will.
Why sell Curtis Davies and bring Wheater in for the same money? This is reminding me of the GT2 reign. No player with an ounce of ambition will come to us if Wheater is the kind of player we will sell Davies and Dunne to bring in.
Because attitude is a major component of success in any walk of life. Dunne and Davies represent the past and are bitter at change and rejection. Wheater would look at this as a massive opportunity to push on in his career. If you can get him for net return of 3 or 4 mil given the sale of the other two, then it's a deal worth making.
Davies has done nothing wrong, he was playing well, but was ill-advised about when too have the operation, probably Martin saying no don't have the op knowing full well he was looking at new CB's.
Yeah he spoke out at Martin, but he has only spoke the truth.
It's all about wages, GH is getting rid of players MON payed well over the odds for and is restucturing as any business will do from time to time. We have all shook our heads at the ridiculous amounts some very average players are getting at Villa. Help me out here, i'm struggling to find a player that Villa wanted out that turned his career around and we regretted selling. We are the half way house it seems if we sell you you aint much good.
I'd throw Gardner in there too. Take away the emotion from and it and take him on his values only, he's a better shout than Sidwell.
OK he wanted first team football but he surely would have stuck it out a bit longer given a few more opportunities?
It's all about wages, GH is getting rid of players MON payed well over the odds for and is restucturing as any business will do from time to time. We have all shook our heads at the ridiculous amounts some very average players are getting at Villa. Help me out here, i'm struggling to find a player that Villa wanted out that turned his career around and we regretted selling. We are the half way house it seems if we sell you you aint much good.
Cahill
Crouch
It's all about wages, GH is getting rid of players MON payed well over the odds for and is restucturing as any business will do from time to time. We have all shook our heads at the ridiculous amounts some very average players are getting at Villa. Help me out here, i'm struggling to find a player that Villa wanted out that turned his career around and we regretted selling. We are the half way house it seems if we sell you you aint much good.
Cahill
Crouch
Craig Gardner would have played most of this season if he'd have still been here. And, would have done a decent job.Same with Gardner he asked for the move we didn't sack him.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/columnists/james-nursey/James-Nursey-column-Why-I-think-Aston-Villa-will-sell-Liverpool-and-Manchester-United-target-Ashley-Young-next-month-article656039.html
So Ash has changed his agent.
Also notice he said wants a move to one of the 'big Five' not four.
No thanks to Bentley. Big time Charlie.
No thanks to Bentley. Big time Charlie.
Pretty sure that Redknapp is on record as saying he is one the hardest trainers at Spurs, Id take him, he can play wide, in the middle and he has something to prove.
No thanks to Bentley. Big time Charlie.
Pretty sure that Redknapp is on record as saying he is one the hardest trainers at Spurs, Id take him, he can play wide, in the middle and he has something to prove.
There are clear differences between Bale and Bentley though. Bale just hadn't found his niche (people writing him off was ridiculous, he was still a teenager), whereas Bentley, much older, found his niche and was then found out. For all his outward apperance he's always seemed to me a very limited player - not the best man for the team, his work off the ball, passing in deep and so on leaving a lot to be desired, but he's not even a very good individualist like Bale. We can do so much better than David Bentley, in terms of price, quality and wage-cost.
There are clear differences between Bale and Bentley though. Bale just hadn't found his niche (people writing him off was ridiculous, he was still a teenager), whereas Bentley, much older, found his niche and was then found out. For all his outward apperance he's always seemed to me a very limited player - not the best man for the team, his work off the ball, passing in deep and so on leaving a lot to be desired, but he's not even a very good individualist like Bale. We can do so much better than David Bentley, in terms of price, quality and wage-cost.
I don't think we really need a winger that desperately. Downing has played well this year and Albrighton is excellent, so even if Ashley Young goes we're okay.
A workhorse in midfield who is okay on the ball might be useful. Not sure what Makoun is like? A striker is definitely on the wish list too.
I don't think we really need a winger that desperately. Downing has played well this year and Albrighton is excellent, so even if Ashley Young goes we're okay.
A workhorse in midfield who is okay on the ball might be useful. Not sure what Makoun is like? A striker is definitely on the wish list too.
With Downing and Albrighton having good seasons, I think we could afford to sell Ashley Young, get a striker and a midfielder like Scott Parker & we'd be a better side.
For David Bentley see Stephen Ireland.
Villa move for French starlet
Houllier eyes Le Havre raid for Fofana
Last updated: 23rd December 2010
Fofana: Villa target
Skysports.com understands Aston Villa are closing in on the signing of French youngster Gueida Fofana.
Villa boss Gerard Houllier has targeted the highly-rated Le Havre midfielder as he looks to bolster his squad in the January transfer window.
Fofana impressed during last summer's European Under 19 Championships captaining France to success in the tournament.
Le Havre are resigned to losing Fofana with a number of clubs across Europe keeping tabs on his situation.
However, Villa are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by tabling an offer to Le Havre for the 19-year-old.
Houllier knows all about Fofana from his time as Technical Director for the French Football Federation and he is a big fan of the defensive midfielder.
Villa are hoping to agree a fee with Le Havre as they look to tie up a deal to bring Fofana to the club when the transfer window reopens
Another one of the Sky Sports understands so add salt if neccessary when readingQuoteVilla move for French starlet
Houllier eyes Le Havre raid for Fofana
Last updated: 23rd December 2010
Fofana: Villa target
Skysports.com understands Aston Villa are closing in on the signing of French youngster Gueida Fofana.
Villa boss Gerard Houllier has targeted the highly-rated Le Havre midfielder as he looks to bolster his squad in the January transfer window.
Fofana impressed during last summer's European Under 19 Championships captaining France to success in the tournament.
Le Havre are resigned to losing Fofana with a number of clubs across Europe keeping tabs on his situation.
However, Villa are hoping to steal a march on their rivals by tabling an offer to Le Havre for the 19-year-old.
Houllier knows all about Fofana from his time as Technical Director for the French Football Federation and he is a big fan of the defensive midfielder.
Villa are hoping to agree a fee with Le Havre as they look to tie up a deal to bring Fofana to the club when the transfer window reopens
The thought of watching a team without AY, and including someone like Scott Parker, who in my opinion is utter garbage, makes me shudder, regardless of the striker brought in. He is not the answer to our midfield issues.I don't think we really need a winger that desperately. Downing has played well this year and Albrighton is excellent, so even if Ashley Young goes we're okay.
A workhorse in midfield who is okay on the ball might be useful. Not sure what Makoun is like? A striker is definitely on the wish list too.
With Downing and Albrighton having good seasons, I think we could afford to sell Ashley Young, get a striker and a midfielder like Scott Parker & we'd be a better side.
I have no problem Ash going to Man U, Chelsea or Arsenal, because they are a big step up. But Liverpool, Man City or Spurs and he is a Judas.
But if we let his contract run he might end up signing anyway if Houllier is a successful.
The thought of watching a team without AY, and including someone like Scott Parker, who in my opinion is utter garbage, makes me shudder, regardless of the striker brought in. He is not the answer to our midfield issues.I don't think we really need a winger that desperately. Downing has played well this year and Albrighton is excellent, so even if Ashley Young goes we're okay.
A workhorse in midfield who is okay on the ball might be useful. Not sure what Makoun is like? A striker is definitely on the wish list too.
With Downing and Albrighton having good seasons, I think we could afford to sell Ashley Young, get a striker and a midfielder like Scott Parker & we'd be a better side.
The thought of watching a team without AY, and including someone like Scott Parker, who in my opinion is utter garbage, makes me shudder, regardless of the striker brought in. He is not the answer to our midfield issues.I don't think we really need a winger that desperately. Downing has played well this year and Albrighton is excellent, so even if Ashley Young goes we're okay.
A workhorse in midfield who is okay on the ball might be useful. Not sure what Makoun is like? A striker is definitely on the wish list too.
With Downing and Albrighton having good seasons, I think we could afford to sell Ashley Young, get a striker and a midfielder like Scott Parker & we'd be a better side.
How often have you seen Parker this season? The spammers at work reckon he's carrying the team.
The thought of watching a team without AY, and including someone like Scott Parker, who in my opinion is utter garbage, makes me shudder, regardless of the striker brought in. He is not the answer to our midfield issues.I don't think we really need a winger that desperately. Downing has played well this year and Albrighton is excellent, so even if Ashley Young goes we're okay.
A workhorse in midfield who is okay on the ball might be useful. Not sure what Makoun is like? A striker is definitely on the wish list too.
With Downing and Albrighton having good seasons, I think we could afford to sell Ashley Young, get a striker and a midfielder like Scott Parker & we'd be a better side.
What makes Ashley Young think he's too good for Villa, these players need to take a hard look at themselves
and realise what a good club they're at. Two years ago i would have been ropeable if he left but although still a useful player he is by no means that indespensible any more.
Aston Villa steal a march on Chelsea and Liverpool with move for Le Havre's Gueida Fofana
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Aston Villa are in negotiations to sign Gueida Fofana - a player tipped to fill Patrick Vieira's former role as France's midfield mainstay.
Sportsmail can reveal that Villa bosses have been in discussions with Le Havre since Monday in an attempt to agree a fee for the 19-year old, who captained his country to a 2-1 win over Spain in the European Under-19 Championships final in France last summer.
The athletic 6ft tall midfielder was in the sights of Liverpool and Chelsea at the start of the season but is on the verge of joining Villa after Gerard Houllier stole a march on his Barclays Premier League rivals.
Aware that Fofana is out of contract at the end of the season, Houllier moved in with an offer of around £800,000 up front, with a sell-on clause entitling Le Havre to 20 per cent of any subsequent transfer.
Not a player to necessarily build the side around, but we're light on numbers in the middle of the park and he would increase our options.
At the very least he might fulfil the Berger role for us, someone to come off the bench and change the game with a few incisive through balls (rather than the permanently injured version of Berger, obv).
Looks like this one is at an advanced stage:
clicky (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1341227/Aston-Villa-steal-march-Chelsea-Liverpool-Le-Havres-Gueida-Fofana.html)QuoteAston Villa steal a march on Chelsea and Liverpool with move for Le Havre's Gueida Fofana
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Aston Villa are in negotiations to sign Gueida Fofana - a player tipped to fill Patrick Vieira's former role as France's midfield mainstay.
Sportsmail can reveal that Villa bosses have been in discussions with Le Havre since Monday in an attempt to agree a fee for the 19-year old, who captained his country to a 2-1 win over Spain in the European Under-19 Championships final in France last summer.
The athletic 6ft tall midfielder was in the sights of Liverpool and Chelsea at the start of the season but is on the verge of joining Villa after Gerard Houllier stole a march on his Barclays Premier League rivals.
Aware that Fofana is out of contract at the end of the season, Houllier moved in with an offer of around £800,000 up front, with a sell-on clause entitling Le Havre to 20 per cent of any subsequent transfer.
If he's anything like Viera he'd be most welcome.
I'd turn my nose up at Krancjar. I dont know what anybody sees in him to be honest. The odd nice ball aside, he's mostly anonymous.
The General said that clause was nonsense didn't he?
Cant imagine davies playing for us again. Bit of an embarrassment to the club what we paid for him
Looks like this one is at an advanced stage:
clicky (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1341227/Aston-Villa-steal-march-Chelsea-Liverpool-Le-Havres-Gueida-Fofana.html)QuoteAston Villa steal a march on Chelsea and Liverpool with move for Le Havre's Gueida Fofana
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Aston Villa are in negotiations to sign Gueida Fofana - a player tipped to fill Patrick Vieira's former role as France's midfield mainstay.
Sportsmail can reveal that Villa bosses have been in discussions with Le Havre since Monday in an attempt to agree a fee for the 19-year old, who captained his country to a 2-1 win over Spain in the European Under-19 Championships final in France last summer.
The athletic 6ft tall midfielder was in the sights of Liverpool and Chelsea at the start of the season but is on the verge of joining Villa after Gerard Houllier stole a march on his Barclays Premier League rivals.
Aware that Fofana is out of contract at the end of the season, Houllier moved in with an offer of around £800,000 up front, with a sell-on clause entitling Le Havre to 20 per cent of any subsequent transfer.
If he's anything like Viera he'd be most welcome.
Well, it depends what "crazy money" is.I'd rather we sent out the message
I want to keep Ashley Young but if a daft offer comes in, and lets face it, that could really only come from Man City, Chelsea or Real Madrid, you'd have to consider it. Especially if he hasnt signed a new contract.
Well, it depends what "crazy money" is.I'd rather we sent out the message
I want to keep Ashley Young but if a daft offer comes in, and lets face it, that could really only come from Man City, Chelsea or Real Madrid, you'd have to consider it. Especially if he hasnt signed a new contract.
'Not for sale under any circumstances'
Losing Milner weakened us, but losing our most threatening player would really fuck us up.
It would also confirm that we ARE a selling club.
Uncertain and worrying times.
Other outlets reporting Houllier as saying there's now way he'll be sold in January but the Mirror turn it round to the most negative slant possible.
Looks like this one is at an advanced stage:
clicky (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1341227/Aston-Villa-steal-march-Chelsea-Liverpool-Le-Havres-Gueida-Fofana.html)QuoteAston Villa steal a march on Chelsea and Liverpool with move for Le Havre's Gueida Fofana
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Aston Villa are in negotiations to sign Gueida Fofana - a player tipped to fill Patrick Vieira's former role as France's midfield mainstay.
Sportsmail can reveal that Villa bosses have been in discussions with Le Havre since Monday in an attempt to agree a fee for the 19-year old, who captained his country to a 2-1 win over Spain in the European Under-19 Championships final in France last summer.
The athletic 6ft tall midfielder was in the sights of Liverpool and Chelsea at the start of the season but is on the verge of joining Villa after Gerard Houllier stole a march on his Barclays Premier League rivals.
Aware that Fofana is out of contract at the end of the season, Houllier moved in with an offer of around £800,000 up front, with a sell-on clause entitling Le Havre to 20 per cent of any subsequent transfer.
If he's anything like Viera he'd be most welcome.
these are the sort of signings I was hoping for...
I don't like this comment at all
Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier has admitted winger Ashley Young may be offloaded if the right amount of money is offered. With 18 months left on the 25-year-old's deal, Houllier said: "In January the best clubs keep their best players but you never know if someone comes with crazy money."
Looks like NRC but quicker and can pass. Hope he comes in, he looks very good and just what we need.
Looks like this one is at an advanced stage:
clicky (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1341227/Aston-Villa-steal-march-Chelsea-Liverpool-Le-Havres-Gueida-Fofana.html)QuoteAston Villa steal a march on Chelsea and Liverpool with move for Le Havre's Gueida Fofana
By SPORTSMAIL REPORTER
Aston Villa are in negotiations to sign Gueida Fofana - a player tipped to fill Patrick Vieira's former role as France's midfield mainstay.
Sportsmail can reveal that Villa bosses have been in discussions with Le Havre since Monday in an attempt to agree a fee for the 19-year old, who captained his country to a 2-1 win over Spain in the European Under-19 Championships final in France last summer.
The athletic 6ft tall midfielder was in the sights of Liverpool and Chelsea at the start of the season but is on the verge of joining Villa after Gerard Houllier stole a march on his Barclays Premier League rivals.
Aware that Fofana is out of contract at the end of the season, Houllier moved in with an offer of around £800,000 up front, with a sell-on clause entitling Le Havre to 20 per cent of any subsequent transfer.
If he's anything like Viera he'd be most welcome.
these are the sort of signings I was hoping for...
Fofana - wow from youtube clip. he can pass and defend perfick. That the sort of signing I want to see for Aston Villa. He can play for us for years with Delph, Bannan, Reo Coker, Young (assuming he want to stay) and Albrighton and Gary Gardner. The midfield will be sorted for a decade and could be our famous middle 4 like Arsenal famous back 5 with dixon, winterburn, adams, keown and bould.
I don't want experience players 28-30 as they won't be hungry. Especially in Premier League
There's a clause in Ireland's contract which will allow us to cancel it if he is certified insane.
But his agent claims there is no sanity clause
There's a clause in Ireland's contract which will allow us to cancel it if he is certified insane.
But his agent claims there is no sanity clause
You're wasted on these Philistines.
Well, it depends what "crazy money" is.I'd rather we sent out the message
I want to keep Ashley Young but if a daft offer comes in, and lets face it, that could really only come from Man City, Chelsea or Real Madrid, you'd have to consider it. Especially if he hasnt signed a new contract.
'Not for sale under any circumstances'
Losing Milner weakened us, but losing our most threatening player would really fuck us up.
It would also confirm that we ARE a selling club.
Uncertain and worrying times.
Sell
Dunne 4m
Ireland 5m
Sidwell 3m
Davies 3m
Buy
Moussa Sow fron Lille or
Lisandro Lopez from Lyon or
Hugo Almeida from Bremen or
Srdan Lakic from Kaiserslautern
all prolific goal scorers likely to cost aromnd 10/12 M.
Yes. The Pinot Noir whirlybirds are in full effect
Captain of the France under 20s, looks quality on YouTube. £800k?! Sounds unrealistically cheap!
Captain of the France under 20s, looks quality on YouTube. £800k?! Sounds unrealistically cheap!Makes the alleged £250k for sidwell easier to stomach, if both are true.
That's going to be us next season!
As a thought, dortmund are running away with the Bundesliga this season. With a young, hungry side with no prima donnas.
Maybe a similar strategy might benefit us??
NOTW reporting fergie been in contact about cut price 13milliom deal for Ashley and that Watford have a sell on clause.
NOTW reporting fergie been in contact about cut price 13milliom deal for Ashley and that Watford have a sell on clause.
Shay Given in? Yes pleaseI would love to see Given here, but with the talk from GH of a younger keeper and to keep Brad on I can't see it.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1341568/Gerard-Houllier-Aston-Villa-end-Shay-Givens-Manchester-City-hell.html?
NOTW reporting fergie been in contact about cut price 13milliom deal for Ashley and that Watford have a sell on clause.
I sincerely hope you have not paid to read that shag rag's website.
Don't believe it, myself. On many possible grounds.
\\NOTW reporting fergie been in contact about cut price 13milliom deal for Ashley and that Watford have a sell on clause.
I sincerely hope you have not paid to read that shag rag's website.
Don't believe it, myself. On many possible grounds.
Ow no, joys of an iPhone, Aston Villa news App all articles can be viewed for free.
I have no problem if he goes to united because it is a bog step up. But I've a feeling Ash would end up like Berbatov, great against lower opposition but a luxury in the big games.
But 13 million is too cheap, at least 18 if it's in January!
13m is a joke. if he went for that i'd be seriously worried about the state of our finances
Stoke will apparently offer £5m for Steven Ireland. Snap their hands off.
We are stuck in catch 22
On one hand Ash is our best player.
On the other he is a non scoring striker.So what do we do? I'd rather keep him obviously but I dont know!
Stoke will apparently offer £5m for Steven Ireland. Snap their hands off.
Yeah but they will only pay hin 35k a week, we have to pay the rest
Is one striker enough in January?Yup.
The players like Ireland on fat wages insisting their contract is maintainted if their current club wishes to offload them will evantually drive the salaries to a more manageable level as the Clubs realise they have no one else to blame but themselves. New contracts will either be protected in favour of the club or structured to avoid the wage liability.
I think the player has every right in wanting to maintain their salary.
Carew off to the Baggies according to the Daily Hate tomorrow.
Carew off to the Baggies according to the Daily Hate tomorrow.
That'd suit the lazy sod, wouldn't even have to move house.
Still Keane for me - He will keep us up and importantly won't need time to settle. If we don't get him, and he goes to another relegation threatened club, it's going to be painful watching him score goals and keep that side up.
I reckon we need Keane and someone else though. We can't just rely on our one new striker to score bags of goals, even if it is him, because who knows whoever we buy might get injured in the first couple of weeks and then we'd be no better off than now.
I thought our problem was the last manager filled the squad with expensively paid players with a limited shelf life on their last big pay day. So Keane would help how? He's not good enough for spurs so i don't see why their cast-offs are good enough for us.
It's for this reason I wouldn't let the like of Carew go to Albion or Ireland to Fulham.
We are in serious trouble. Buying potential from the continent won't help us if we will not see them settled till next season.
I hope the club realise that as well as long term planning we need some short term fixes to get us out of this hole. Keane is good enough and experienced enough at Premier League level to make an impact over the last half of the season. He is capable of scoring 7-8 goals that may make the difference at the end of the season.
More importantly, he may go to one of our rivals and do the same for them. It's for this reason I wouldn't let the like of Carew go to Albion or Ireland to Fulham.
We are in serious trouble. Buying potential from the continent won't help us if we will not see them settled till next season.
I hope the club realise that as well as long term planning we need some short term fixes to get us out of this hole. Keane is good enough and experienced enough at Premier League level to make an impact over the last half of the season. He is capable of scoring 7-8 goals that may make the difference at the end of the season.
More importantly, he may go to one of our rivals and do the same for them. It's for this reason I wouldn't let the like of Carew go to Albion or Ireland to Fulham.
That's what I'm saying. We should go for both striker options as Supertom says. Time for Randolph to get his chequebook out, as unlike many people on here, I don't think he's gone mad with the money, considering how much we've recouped. We also have plenty to sell to raise funds further, I would definitely get rid of those 2 suggested as if reports are to be believed are a disruption, and Dunne also. And Sidwell, Davies and Osbourne who are plainly not good enough. That should get the wages down.
I'm not sure Given has been the same keeper since Marlon Harewood ruptured his bowel a few years ago.
I'm not sure Given has been the same keeper since Marlon Harewood ruptured his bowel a few years ago.
They had an affair?!
Nothing to do with Stefan Postma was it?
Am I right in thinking Postma would have been on the receiving end, rather than given?
Am I right in thinking Postma would have been on the receiving end, rather than given?Having just googled his name and seen the "act" i can confirm he was on the receiving end.
Am I right in thinking Postma would have been on the receiving end, rather than given?Having just googled his name and seen the "act" i can confirm he was on the receiving end.
Gee thanks . It wasn't that difficult.Am I right in thinking Postma would have been on the receiving end, rather than given?Having just googled his name and seen the "act" i can confirm he was on the receiving end.
well done.
Am I right in thinking Postma would have been on the receiving end, rather than given?
Shit (no pun intended). Rumbled.
You know perfectly well mate, you were the cameraman.
Gee thanks . It wasn't that difficult.Am I right in thinking Postma would have been on the receiving end, rather than given?Having just googled his name and seen the "act" i can confirm he was on the receiving end.
well done.
We are in serious trouble. Buying potential from the continent won't help us if we will not see them settled till next season.
I hope the club realise that as well as long term planning we need some short term fixes to get us out of this hole. Keane is good enough and experienced enough at Premier League level to make an impact over the last half of the season. He is capable of scoring 7-8 goals that may make the difference at the end of the season.
More importantly, he may go to one of our rivals and do the same for them. It's for this reason I wouldn't let the like of Carew go to Albion or Ireland to Fulham.
That's what I'm saying. We should go for both striker options as Supertom says. Time for Randolph to get his chequebook out, as unlike many people on here, I don't think he's gone mad with the money, considering how much we've recouped. We also have plenty to sell to raise funds further, I would definitely get rid of those 2 suggested as if reports are to be believed are a disruption, and Dunne also. And Sidwell, Davies and Osbourne who are plainly not good enough. That should get the wages down.
Happy Christmas Clark. Watched Christmas Vacation again the other night. As a new poster you may not know that your splendid rant at your boss when he didn't give you a Christmas bonus is/or was the word filter for Steve Hodge on this very forum.
I'm reading more into Ashley Young's absence yesterday with an "injury"
I fear he is being off-loaded in Jan
I watched him a few times, he's good but he knows it! He rarely passes and try's to do it all himself
I'm reading more into Ashley Young's absence yesterday with an "injury"
I fear he is being off-loaded in Jan
If there were one thing we could do to simultaneously take away any remaining positivity at the club, to reinforce and give credence to the "selling club" stuff we keep hearing, to deflate the supporters any more, to make a truly shit season even worse, to make relegation a real possibility, to make it look like we'd given up, and to flag up our ambition accordingly, it would be to sell Ashley Young in January.
I understand why players insist they don't want to stay at clubs and get offloaded in the summer, but to sell a player like that in January could only be about one thing, and that would be the slightly increased transfer fee we'd get from having a further six months on his contract.
13m is a joke. if he went for that i'd be seriously worried about the state of our finances
We need to get as much as possible if that's the route that we are going down. It sounds cheap but whats the going rate for a player entering the last year of his contract? We got £12m for Barry so....
Re Keane:
It's hard to shake the notion that he's on a downward spiral, I've said as much beforehand and the clubs linked with his signature bear that out.
But:
If he goes to the B-lose you just know he'll score against us, and any other goals he gets for them or another struggling side could impact on our season the way things are going.
As much as he wouldn't be a long term answer, if he came in for the remainder of the season and scored 5-6 goals in our colours it would possibly be a worthwhile short term solution.
Long term we'd need far better, but lets get this complete arse of a season out of the way first and ensure we're still in the division. For all the bright play of some of our wingers and midfielders at times this year we've struggled to score goals.
Re Keane:
It's hard to shake the notion that he's on a downward spiral, I've said as much beforehand and the clubs linked with his signature bear that out.
But:
If he goes to the B-lose you just know he'll score against us, and any other goals he gets for them or another struggling side could impact on our season the way things are going.
As much as he wouldn't be a long term answer, if he came in for the remainder of the season and scored 5-6 goals in our colours it would possibly be a worthwhile short term solution.
Long term we'd need far better, but lets get this complete arse of a season out of the way first and ensure we're still in the division. For all the bright play of some of our wingers and midfielders at times this year we've struggled to score goals.
How do we get him in for the short term though unless it is a loan deal and I do not see Harry doing us any favours unless it helps him get more for him in the summer.
If we sign him it will be on a fat 3-4 year contract we end up in the same position as with Ireland etc.
Re Keane:
It's hard to shake the notion that he's on a downward spiral, I've said as much beforehand and the clubs linked with his signature bear that out.
But:
If he goes to the B-lose you just know he'll score against us, and any other goals he gets for them or another struggling side could impact on our season the way things are going.
As much as he wouldn't be a long term answer, if he came in for the remainder of the season and scored 5-6 goals in our colours it would possibly be a worthwhile short term solution.
Long term we'd need far better, but lets get this complete arse of a season out of the way first and ensure we're still in the division. For all the bright play of some of our wingers and midfielders at times this year we've struggled to score goals.
How do we get him in for the short term though unless it is a loan deal and I do not see Harry doing us any favours unless it helps him get more for him in the summer.
If we sign him it will be on a fat 3-4 year contract we end up in the same position as with Ireland etc.
Short term deal doesn't necessarily need to be a loan.
If the price is reasonable enough bring him in on say, a two year contract.
The main focus being the rest of this season obv, but keeping him as back-up for the next campaign.
He'd still most likely see more game time with us than he would with Tottingham and -you never know- get a good manager in in the summer and he might actually be involved in a successful campaign next year. You'd say there is more chance of that with us than there is with perennial strugglers such as B-lose, West Ham and co.
if we start buying players out of fear of what they could do for our rivals if we don't then we are really in deep deep shite
I'd go for Tuncay over Keane.
I know Tuncay can't get in the Stoke team but if there was ever a case of a player not fitting into their style of play it's him.
Similar player to Keane but younger and probably cheaper.
Stoke will only want 5m so offer 2m + Curtis Davies who's been linked to them in the past.
In the summer, I'd break the bank for Rodallega. I think he could turn into a fantastic striker.
http://www.coloradorapids.com/news/2010/12/cummings-train-epls-aston-villa
Our prayers are answered.
http://www.coloradorapids.com/news/2010/12/cummings-train-epls-aston-villa
Our prayers are answered.
Sidwell, NRC, Carew, Heskey, FreidelI'd only sell Sidwell at this stage until we are safe from the drop
Cost roughly £20 million plus around 200k a week in salary.
They are all going to leave for free in the summer, so if they are not staying sell and at least get something for them in January!
Sidwell, NRC, Carew, Heskey, Freidel
Cost roughly £20 million plus around 200k a week in salary.
They are all going to leave for free in the summer, so if they are not staying sell and at least get something for them in January!
I'd go for Tuncay over Keane.
I know Tuncay can't get in the Stoke team but if there was ever a case of a player not fitting into their style of play it's him.
Similar player to Keane but younger and probably cheaper.
Stoke will only want 5m so offer 2m + Curtis Davies who's been linked to them in the past.
In the summer, I'd break the bank for Rodallega. I think he could turn into a fantastic striker.
Would still prefer Vagner Love over all three. He's great in the second striker role, dropping deep, running with the ball, dribbling and creating chances! Would partner Gabby or Nathan well IMO.
Should be available and gettable.
I'd go for Tuncay over Keane.
I know Tuncay can't get in the Stoke team but if there was ever a case of a player not fitting into their style of play it's him.
Similar player to Keane but younger and probably cheaper.
Stoke will only want 5m so offer 2m + Curtis Davies who's been linked to them in the past.
In the summer, I'd break the bank for Rodallega. I think he could turn into a fantastic striker.
Would still prefer Vagner Love over all three. He's great in the second striker role, dropping deep, running with the ball, dribbling and creating chances! Would partner Gabby or Nathan well IMO.
Should be available and gettable.
He's got the X Factor ;-)
I know what you're saying, but if the player is insisting he wants out (and I'm not sure we're at that stage yet) there isn't a huge amount we can do.
Football is all about entertainment...after watching him today I want us to get Taarabt! I am sure he is frustrating as hell, but some of the things he does are unbelievable!
Football is all about entertainment...after watching him today I want us to get Taarabt! I am sure he is frustrating as hell, but some of the things he does are unbelievable!
The fee alone would be prohibitive, but to spend it on a striker who looks good in the Championship and couldn't get near the Spurs first team would be a no for me.
They will be desperate to keep him. He would be quite likely to stay as it would seem there is a chance albeit a small one of the clubs swapping leagues and him making the wrong decision. So moving now might not make the most sense to him.
From our perspective it doesn't make much sense to buy him now as we need to have all hands to the pump and carry no passengers and take no risks with players. We need to have the onus on getting results rather than attacking play or players who try things that don't work. For me that is best achieved by a strong midfield of committed hard working players who have some talent. We already have Bannan, Delph and Ashley Young who can play as an attacking midfielder or second striker and will most likely have all three until the end of the season.
I think he's been great since he moved to QPR but he has been hot and cold. Next season if we are doing decently in the PL (of which I have every confidence) it might make sense to bring him in if QPR are struggling and he has taken to the top flight.
I put him along side Gylfi Sigurdsson who was sold in April for £6m to Hoffenheim. So I am sure we could get him for roughly the same. I cannot think of a Championship player being sold for more.
Lets also not forget QPR are not short of a few bob
OMar Cummings is the saviour
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/9323112.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/9323112.stm)
OMar Cummings is the saviour
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/9323112.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/9323112.stm)
Omars coming.
Omar Cummings by definition is worse than: Clint Dempsey, Landon Donovan, Ricardo Fuller, Eddie Johnson, Jozy Altidore, Edson Buddle, Robbie Findley, Hercule Gomez... That it should come to this.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/12/29/exclusive-villa-close-in-on-french-under-19-captain-gueida-fofana-and-jamaican-striker-omar-cummings-97319-27900230/
Omar is coming and Fofana is having a medical today, apparently.
RSC too, but a big question mark over his injury record.
SWP I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.
celtic linked to a loan deal for Dunne and Ireland. They can do one. Cash only.Cash only?
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/12/29/exclusive-villa-close-in-on-french-under-19-captain-gueida-fofana-and-jamaican-striker-omar-cummings-97319-27900230/
Omar is coming and Fofana is having a medical today, apparently.
Commentator at the City game said there would be many players leaving them in January, who might they may be and who would we want?
If we get Fofana it could be quite a coup for us. This lad is very, very highly rated on a European level. This is what makes me want to give Houllier a fighting chance; the contacts he has, the knowledge of football that he has could be very beneficial for Villa...if we just stick with him!
Has anyone seen Fofana play? If so, what should we expect? Is he ready to go straight into the team or own for the future?
I hope he signs if for no other reason than when I read his name it makes me sing Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce que c'est Fofanafafafafafa.
So anyone heard anything concrete on this Fofana medical business?
The only thing about Fofana is I don't like the idea of throwing him into a midfield of a struggling team that's already got an average age of about 12. We need a bit of experience to guide us through the next few months. He's another "one for the future", alongside Bannan, Hogg, Delph and Albrighton.
Linked with Bendtner today too. Not sure whether the suggestion is a loan or permanent deal.
The only thing about Fofana is I don't like the idea of throwing him into a midfield of a struggling team that's already got an average age of about 12. We need a bit of experience to guide us through the next few months. He's another "one for the future", alongside Bannan, Hogg, Delph and Albrighton.
Bendtner IMO would be a good signing, he's never really had a run of 15 games or so for Arsenal.
Bendtner IMO would be a good signing, he's never really had a run of 15 games or so for Arsenal.
Indeed, because he's crap.
Even when they had no fit strikers, they'd sometimes play without any strikers rather than use him.
Who's Fofana? What position does he play? Is he a good signing?
Who's Fofana? What position does he play? Is he a good signing?
Who's Fofana? What position does he play? Is he a good signing?
Guieda Fofana u21 french captain. Defensive mid. On you tube. Liverpool and Chelsea were chasing him .....
Is there anything worth looking at in the Championship?
I'd hoped we would have gone for Gylfi Sigurdsson when he left Reading last year. Don't know how he's doing in Germany but looked a class act.Very well.
So we're signing players from the French div 2 to help in a delegation scrap ?
Please tell me I'm wrong
Bendtner IMO would be a good signing, he's never really had a run of 15 games or so for Arsenal.
Indeed, because he's crap.
Even when they had no fit strikers, they'd sometimes play without any strikers rather than use him.
If ash goes, wouldnt be suprised to see nzobia come in..Noooo he dives more than Ash
This will be wildly unpopular but if he's open to offers, I'd take Seb Larsson in the blink of an eye.
This will be wildly unpopular but if he's open to offers, I'd take Seb Larsson in the blink of an eye.
I used to rate him but he was shite last night...don't think one of his crosses beat the first man.
As the other poster said, Jarvis as Young's replacement in the summer will be much better.
Its not Bendtners fault somebody else got in his way though is it?
And he's not absolute top class or we wouldnt be talking about him as Arsenal would be keeping him.
But he's a natural finisher, big and strong with a fair bit of nous. We could really use a player like that right now.
Just watching match of the day, N'Zogbia looks like the Ash of 2 years ago, direct, Fast and effective. Then the knob got sent off.
That Rodellaga looks sharp aswell, but both players look like they have an ego, so would Houllier have them?
Just watching match of the day, N'Zogbia looks like the Ash of 2 years ago, direct, Fast and effective. Then the knob got sent off.N'Zogbia looks excellent every time i've saw him, he comes across as a bit of a twat but i'd still love him here
That Rodellaga looks sharp aswell, but both players look like they have an ego, so would Houllier have them?
Just watching match of the day, N'Zogbia looks like the Ash of 2 years ago, direct, Fast and effective. Then the knob got sent off.N'Zogbia looks excellent every time i've saw him, he comes across as a bit of a twat but i'd still love him here
That Rodellaga looks sharp aswell, but both players look like they have an ego, so would Houllier have them?
Just watching match of the day, N'Zogbia looks like the Ash of 2 years ago, direct, Fast and effective. Then the knob got sent off.
That Rodellaga looks sharp aswell, but both players look like they have an ego, so would Houllier have them?
didnt Blose have a bid accepted for him, £9 million I think.. what happened there?
obviously he didnt like the smell of shit but why didnt they get him..
In
Given
Lescott
Bridge
Woodgate (Loan)
One of them French midfield geezers
N'Zogbia
Elmander
£45m
Out
Freidel
Davies
Dunne
Sidwell
Coker
Osbourne
Salifou
Ireland
Beye
Carew
£23m
All in January please. Or, sack Houllier and let a decent manager get the best from what we have.
Not sure how much we need new players as much as we need to get back Martin Laursen as our defensive coach as we've still not got one! I'm sure some of the players would respond to the appointment especially the ones that know him. It would help maybe established a better bond between the players and the manager.
I don't doubt N'Zogbia's ability but he does have previous as being difficult, do we wan't another until such time as we can sort ourselves out?
Personally I think Jarvis at Wolves would be a better option, and in our current state if it weakens them so much the better.
Agree N'Zogbia would be a good buy, especially with the uncertaintity around Ash.
Aston Villa have bid for Basel's Behrang Safari , according to the German 4-4-2 Web site.
Safari's contract expires at the end of the season and Villa are said to have offered Basel €1 million to sign the 25-year old in January.
Borussia Dortmund are also interested in his services.
Safari is a fast, talented player, who can play as a left back as well as on the left of midfield.
He is renowned in Switzerland for his great attacking skills and the danger he poses down left wing. He still has some defensive weaknesses though, as he is a bit lacking in positional sense and physical strength.
Not sure how much we need new players as much as we need to get back Martin Laursen as our defensive coach as we've still not got one! I'm sure some of the players would respond to the appointment especially the ones that know him. It would help maybe established a better bond between the players and the manager.Yes we need the Lionheart back in our folds, I cannot see a natural leader in the squad or in the dugout, and how can a once very good defence become very bad?
Not sure how much we need new players as much as we need to get back Martin Laursen as our defensive coach as we've still not got one! I'm sure some of the players would respond to the appointment especially the ones that know him. It would help maybe established a better bond between the players and the manager.Yes we need the Lionheart back in our folds, I cannot see a natural leader in the squad or in the dugout, and how can a once very good defence become very bad?
Behrang SafariQuoteAston Villa have bid for Basel's Behrang Safari , according to the German 4-4-2 Web site.
Safari's contract expires at the end of the season and Villa are said to have offered Basel €1 million to sign the 25-year old in January.
Borussia Dortmund are also interested in his services.
Safari is a fast, talented player, who can play as a left back as well as on the left of midfield.
He is renowned in Switzerland for his great attacking skills and the danger he poses down left wing. He still has some defensive weaknesses though, as he is a bit lacking in positional sense and physical strength.
Already sounds better than Warnock.
Behrang SafariQuoteAston Villa have bid for Basel's Behrang Safari , according to the German 4-4-2 Web site.
Safari's contract expires at the end of the season and Villa are said to have offered Basel €1 million to sign the 25-year old in January.
Borussia Dortmund are also interested in his services.
Safari is a fast, talented player, who can play as a left back as well as on the left of midfield.
He is renowned in Switzerland for his great attacking skills and the danger he poses down left wing. He still has some defensive weaknesses though, as he is a bit lacking in positional sense and physical strength.
Already sounds better than Warnock.
sounds like Warnock defensively .
Behrang SafariQuoteAston Villa have bid for Basel's Behrang Safari , according to the German 4-4-2 Web site.
Safari's contract expires at the end of the season and Villa are said to have offered Basel €1 million to sign the 25-year old in January.
Borussia Dortmund are also interested in his services.
Safari is a fast, talented player, who can play as a left back as well as on the left of midfield.
He is renowned in Switzerland for his great attacking skills and the danger he poses down left wing. He still has some defensive weaknesses though, as he is a bit lacking in positional sense and physical strength.
Already sounds better than Warnock.
sounds like Warnock defensively .
Must have missed the bit where it says he is crap and thick with it then, always diving in, unable to stay on his feet, continually out of position (witness Spurs first goal) and like a headless chicken going forward. I would be a better signing than Warnock...
Agree N'Zogbia would be a good buy, especially with the uncertaintity around Ash.
I'm not so sure.
Can he play centrally, which is where Ash is playing for us? If not then we'd just be adding another winger and we have two good ones already, so not a position I'd class as a priority.
Personally, I think Ash will go in the summer so lets spend on DCm and striker now, if possible, and then look for a genuine playmaker in the summer. Or maybe Delph can play in his place?
Agree N'Zogbia would be a good buy, especially with the uncertaintity around Ash.
I'm not so sure.
Can he play centrally, which is where Ash is playing for us? If not then we'd just be adding another winger and we have two good ones already, so not a position I'd class as a priority.
Personally, I think Ash will go in the summer so lets spend on DCm and striker now, if possible, and then look for a genuine playmaker in the summer. Or maybe Delph can play in his place?
He wasn't out of position for their first goal.
He wasn't out of position for their first goal.
Oh yes he was! Watch the build up to the goal again rather than just the goal itself...
And he has never been 'brilliant' for us...not in my opinion anyway. That's the sort of word I reserve for the way in which Bale has played these last few months and Warnock has never ever been remotely at that level...not within a million miles
He wasn't out of position for their first goal.
Oh yes he was! Watch the build up to the goal again rather than just the goal itself...
And he has never been 'brilliant' for us...not in my opinion anyway. That's the sort of word I reserve for the way in which Bale has played these last few months and Warnock has never ever been remotely at that level...not within a million miles
He can play centrally as good as Ash, probably better because he is more of a goal threat.
We need 3 wingers, look when Marc was out. If Ash leaves he needs replacing and N'Zogbia would be perfect.
He wasn't out of position for their first goal.
Oh yes he was! Watch the build up to the goal again rather than just the goal itself...
And he has never been 'brilliant' for us...not in my opinion anyway. That's the sort of word I reserve for the way in which Bale has played these last few months and Warnock has never ever been remotely at that level...not within a million miles
Oh no he wasn't, in the build up he was marking Defoe, because Defoe was on his side. Modric hit a great pass to their full back, and Downing trotted back without a care in the world.
Warnock has been poor all season but you can't blame him for every goal we concede.
He wasn't out of position for their first goal.
Oh yes he was! Watch the build up to the goal again rather than just the goal itself...
And he has never been 'brilliant' for us...not in my opinion anyway. That's the sort of word I reserve for the way in which Bale has played these last few months and Warnock has never ever been remotely at that level...not within a million miles
Oh no he wasn't, in the build up he was marking Defoe, because Defoe was on his side. Modric hit a great pass to their full back, and Downing trotted back without a care in the world.
Warnock has been poor all season but you can't blame him for every goal we concede.
He can play centrally as good as Ash, probably better because he is more of a goal threat.
We need 3 wingers, look when Marc was out. If Ash leaves he needs replacing and N'Zogbia would be perfect.
I always thought he only played wide for Wigan?
Yes, we need 3 wingers, but that's the ideal situation and we can't realistically expect large numbers in during Jan, so I'd hold off on the wide berths and concentrate on striker and DCM.
Warnock often gets sucked into the middle when the ball switches flanks.
Warnock often gets sucked into the middle when the ball switches flanks.
He should be narrow when the ball is on the opposite flank as the immediate danger is the ball into the box or the centre of the pitch in front of our goal. If the ball is switched flanks he moves as the ball moves.
I think Warnock is playing through injuries which is affecting his judgement when it comes to getting tight on an attacker or sitting off him, which is why he is diving in so much.
Perfectly good players don't go shit in 6 months for no reason, the same with Dunne, but his problem is, he's unfit as opposed to being injured.
He wasn't out of position for their first goal.
Oh yes he was! Watch the build up to the goal again rather than just the goal itself...
And he has never been 'brilliant' for us...not in my opinion anyway. That's the sort of word I reserve for the way in which Bale has played these last few months and Warnock has never ever been remotely at that level...not within a million miles
Oh no he wasn't, in the build up he was marking Defoe, because Defoe was on his side. Modric hit a great pass to their full back, and Downing trotted back without a care in the world.
Warnock has been poor all season but you can't blame him for every goal we concede.
Exactly. Warnock was exactly where he should have been and marking the person he should have been. It was Downing who allowed their full back to run past him.
Don't get me wrong, he does make more mistakes than he should, but too many people are too quick to blame him when it isn't actually his fault.
Would you rather he ignored Defoe, who was the immediate danger in the position he was in, and went wide to mark Hutton? I wouldn't. Modric would have just slotted it to Defoe who'd have been in on goal.
I'd suggest you watch the build up to the goal again.
You can't help but ponder on whether Carew would have been a different player this season but for Houllier.
You can't help but ponder on whether Carew would have been a different player this season but for Houllier.
You can't help but ponder on whether Carew would have been a different player this season but for Houllier.
Imho Warnock was not out of position for Spuds 1st goal, Downing was ball watching.It was Hutton who crossed the ball, and Warnock was marking Lennon.All this debate would be unnecessary if Collins would have stopped on his bloody feet.
I would offer Wolves Collins and Dunne in exchange for Jarvis tbh.
Macheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Macheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
Macheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
Macheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
Woodgate is so often injured as to be practically retired, though
There was a little Italian from Leeds with an Alice band who didn't do too badly for us he even scored a hat trick, trouble was he wanted too much money to sign permanently. Edit Benito CarboneMacheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
Behrang Safari, left sided player can play left back. £1mill
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Aston-Villa-bid-1-million-for-Basels-Behrang-Safari/12775/
I think we'd have the lion's share of possession in games if we sign him.Behrang Safari, left sided player can play left back. £1mill
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Aston-Villa-bid-1-million-for-Basels-Behrang-Safari/12775/
I've heard he's a real animal of a player.
I think we'd have the lion's share of possession in games if we sign him.Behrang Safari, left sided player can play left back. £1mill
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Aston-Villa-bid-1-million-for-Basels-Behrang-Safari/12775/
I've heard he's a real animal of a player.
I think we'd have the lion's share of possession in games if we sign him.Behrang Safari, left sided player can play left back. £1mill
http://www.imscouting.com/global-news-article/Aston-Villa-bid-1-million-for-Basels-Behrang-Safari/12775/
I've heard he's a real animal of a player.
He might give us a bit of bite.
There was a little Italian from Leeds with an Alice band who didn't do too badly for us he even scored a hat trick, trouble was he wanted too much money to sign permanently. Edit Benito CarboneMacheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
And was that Gilles de Bilde? On loan? Or is my memory acting up?There was a little Italian from Leeds with an Alice band who didn't do too badly for us he even scored a hat trick, trouble was he wanted too much money to sign permanently. Edit Benito CarboneMacheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
We were owned by Ellis at the time though. And it was supposedly a done deal. And then it wasn't, which kind of sums up the point I'm making. We had to start from scratch again finding a striker, 6 months after finding him.
Linked with Bendtner today too. Not sure whether the suggestion is a loan or permanent deal.
The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
Of course he said that,he wants the highest price for him.He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
I don't trust a player with four consecutive consonants in his name.
He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
I don't trust a player with four consecutive consonants in his name.
Unless he's our best ever player...
We beat Juventus with our youngsters in a pre-season tournament. It means bugger all.He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
It can only be Tommy, surely thats the most, there can't be a six?I don't trust a player with four consecutive consonants in his name.
Unless he's our best ever player...
Also, what about those with five consecutive consonants?
I can think of one.
It can only be Tommy, surely thats the most, there can't be a six?I don't trust a player with four consecutive consonants in his name.
Unless he's our best ever player...
Also, what about those with five consecutive consonants?
I can think of one.
Hands up with them stats did not think it was that bad. Would you honestly put your money on the Fonz scoring more goals than Keane to the end of this season ??We beat Juventus with our youngsters in a pre-season tournament. It means bugger all.He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
I've gone back and counted just to prove the point. One goal in his last nineteen Premier League games.
How would that help us? Why not play Delfouneso who has a better record than that?
Hands up with them stats did not think it was that bad. Would you honestly put your money on the Fonz scoring more goals than Keane to the end of this season ??
I would say that anyone who wouldn't would be absolutely insane.Hands up with them stats did not think it was that bad. Would you honestly put your money on the Fonz scoring more goals than Keane to the end of this season ??We beat Juventus with our youngsters in a pre-season tournament. It means bugger all.He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
I've gone back and counted just to prove the point. One goal in his last nineteen Premier League games.
How would that help us? Why not play Delfouneso who has a better record than that?
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce is planning a January swoop for Aston Villa winger Stewart Downing.
With Manchester City unwilling to do any business over Adam Johnson and Nedum Onuoha, and Wigan placing a £15million tag on Charles N'Zogbia's head, Bruce is ready to turn his attention to former Middlesbrough winger Downing.
Daily Mail
Have to disagree. Keane has a massive amount of experience and under pressure and in a relegation battle would rather him over the Fonz everytime. Not knocking the Fonz but he lacks the cutting edge despite recent stats .... Hopefully Houllier will pull someone out the bag that will surpass both there predicted expectations. To be honest Gabby could still have a massive impact ......I would say that anyone who wouldn't would be absolutely insane.Hands up with them stats did not think it was that bad. Would you honestly put your money on the Fonz scoring more goals than Keane to the end of this season ??We beat Juventus with our youngsters in a pre-season tournament. It means bugger all.He has hardly played this season. In pre season when he was playing in a tournament every game. He was top scorer along with the player of the tournament. His work rate is high and is good in the changing room ?? Even twitchy face commented on how it is very hard to leave him out before Van De Vaart turned up ......The Daily Mail reckon Robbie Keane would take a 50% pay cut (33 grand) to join the scum or Wolves. With Sidwell going and another few players that would easily be covered. Not the long term fix but would definitely get us goals and out of this mess .......He's scored something like 3 goals in his last 30 league games. Heskey has a better goalscoring record over the last couple of seasons.
(this was from memory of an indignant, angry post from a few months ago, so I accept the exact facts might be wrong - but the gist is more or less correct)
I've gone back and counted just to prove the point. One goal in his last nineteen Premier League games.
How would that help us? Why not play Delfouneso who has a better record than that?
- Aston Villa are competing with Fulham for Blackburn defender Chris Samba and Cluj's giant striker Lacina Traore.
Samba, 25, is seen by manager Gerard Houllier as someone who can give greater physical presence to his squad and that would be enhanced further by 6ft 8ins tall Traore, 20, who is ready to move to England in a £3m deal
Sunderland manager Steve Bruce is planning a January swoop for Aston Villa winger Stewart Downing.
With Manchester City unwilling to do any business over Adam Johnson and Nedum Onuoha, and Wigan placing a £15million tag on Charles N'Zogbia's head, Bruce is ready to turn his attention to former Middlesbrough winger Downing.
Daily Mail
I know you tube clips can be misleading. But Lucina Traore who the Daily Mail say we are in for really looks the part. 6`8 20yrs old, two feet and is good in the air. Maybe this is fantastic editing. (first 10 min clip on you tube)
And was that Gilles de Bilde? On loan? Or is my memory acting up?There was a little Italian from Leeds with an Alice band who didn't do too badly for us he even scored a hat trick, trouble was he wanted too much money to sign permanently. Edit Benito CarboneMacheda wants a move, preferably a loan, apparently.
Worth a look?
Not for me. The only player I would take on loan would be Woodgate, and that's because I could see a very good chance of a permanent deal if it worked out. I generally hate loan deals for a club of our stature.
We were owned by Ellis at the time though. And it was supposedly a done deal. And then it wasn't, which kind of sums up the point I'm making. We had to start from scratch again finding a striker, 6 months after finding him.
sunderland want downing
LINK (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3324424/Bruce-turns-to-10m-Downing.html)
If some of the players we are being linked with materialise (i know this is an annual situation) as Ozzjim mentioned there is definitely a change in mentality. Diarra has just been mentioned and this really is the quality that can turn all this gloom around. PS. Blimey i found myself getting excited then ...........I know you tube clips can be misleading. But Lucina Traore who the Daily Mail say we are in for really looks the part. 6`8 20yrs old, two feet and is good in the air. Maybe this is fantastic editing. (first 10 min clip on you tube)
the comments from people seem to think hes a bloody good player
Fofana deal off, he has apparantly failed the medical. Houllier says deal "not likely"
it would be a good deal to send that prick Dunne back up to the NW as part of getting Samba. The Traore kid is 19 and plays for Inter. He's 6ft 8!!!
it would be a good deal to send that prick Dunne back up to the NW as part of getting Samba. The Traore kid is 19 and plays for Inter. He's 6ft 8!!!
it would be a good deal to send that prick Dunne back up to the NW as part of getting Samba. The Traore kid is 19 and plays for Inter. He's 6ft 8!!!
Traore plays for CGR Cluj...just don't think he's mobile enough for the Prem.
Fofana deal off, he has apparantly failed the medical. Houllier says deal "not likely"
where did you see/read that?
We need goals and we get an unknown on loan from the American league. What a joke.
We need goals and we get an unknown on loan from the American league. What a joke.
says fofana has only minor injury, but GH wants to hold fire, has he got the go ahead for someone else?..........Makoun?
says fofana has only minor injury, but GH wants to hold fire, has he got the go ahead for someone else?..........Makoun?
I don't think it was a 'one or the other' situation. Fofana is young with potential. But he was probably after experience also.
Seems like we want a player to go straight into the team.
Seems like we want a player to go straight into the team.
says fofana has only minor injury, but GH wants to hold fire, has he got the go ahead for someone else?..........Makoun?
I don't think it was a 'one or the other' situation. Fofana is young with potential. But he was probably after experience also.
disappointing. Hopefully because the club have agreed a deal they have first refusal. I find it odd that we wouldn't go ahead with this yet signed Downing who was unable to play for 6 months.
What like Pires?
We need goals and we get an unknown on loan from the American league. What a joke.
he's on trial. Nice to see that you've given up on him before he's even had a chance to start. I find it funny how some people have such definitive opinions on players, then compliment managers like Moyes for unearthing gems like Arteta and Cahill. I can only imagine the outcry if we were on trip to the Caribbean and gave a break to some unheard of kid that just happened to be playing against us.
What like Pires?
says fofana has only minor injury, but GH wants to hold fire, has he got the go ahead for someone else?..........Makoun?
I don't think it was a 'one or the other' situation. Fofana is young with potential. But he was probably after experience also.
disappointing. Hopefully because the club have agreed a deal they have first refusal. I find it odd that we wouldn't go ahead with this yet signed Downing who was unable to play for 6 months.
Downing deal was different. He had been operated on and there was probably enough evidence ie scans and reports to say he would make a full recovery.
This sound like a possible underlying or previously not known problem. It is possible to insure the player in Downing's situation, probably mot able to in Fofana's
If Fofana only has a "minor" injury wonder if he is going to sign him at the end of the month ???
says fofana has only minor injury, but GH wants to hold fire, has he got the go ahead for someone else?..........Makoun?
I don't think it was a 'one or the other' situation. Fofana is young with potential. But he was probably after experience also.
disappointing. Hopefully because the club have agreed a deal they have first refusal. I find it odd that we wouldn't go ahead with this yet signed Downing who was unable to play for 6 months.
Downing deal was different. He had been operated on and there was probably enough evidence ie scans and reports to say he would make a full recovery.
This sound like a possible underlying or previously not known problem. It is possible to insure the player in Downing's situation, probably mot able to in Fofana's
the thing is minor and underlying are very different things. Downing couldn't even take a medical, and there was no guarantee of the player making a full recovery. Quite a risk given the price. I just hope we have some contingency in place with the player and his club for the summer. I'd hate for him to end up elsewhere if he really is as promising as it sounds.
fofana looks a good bet to me. the reservation for me was bringing in such a young foreign player into a team doing crap with divisions in the dressing room. hopefully he can bring in someone with more experience. as others have commented, a good centre half, a nasty bastard midfielder and a striker would be my wish - spine of the team 'n that. maybe a full back too
fofana looks a good bet to me. the reservation for me was bringing in such a young foreign player into a team doing crap with divisions in the dressing room. hopefully he can bring in someone with more experience. as others have commented, a good centre half, a nasty bastard midfielder and a striker would be my wish - spine of the team 'n that. maybe a full back too
a full back to replace Warnock would be nice. I think Warnock has squad value, but I'd love Houllier to unearth a new Evra. I don't think we've had a great bombing down the wing type full back since Staunton have we?
We've had so many new signings get injured almost straight away that you have to wonder whether the medicals were on the level. If nothing else, it seems we're getting the job done properly now.
fofana looks a good bet to me. the reservation for me was bringing in such a young foreign player into a team doing crap with divisions in the dressing room. hopefully he can bring in someone with more experience. as others have commented, a good centre half, a nasty bastard midfielder and a striker would be my wish - spine of the team 'n that. maybe a full back too
a full back to replace Warnock would be nice. I think Warnock has squad value, but I'd love Houllier to unearth a new Evra. I don't think we've had a great bombing down the wing type full back since Staunton have we?
fofana looks a good bet to me. the reservation for me was bringing in such a young foreign player into a team doing crap with divisions in the dressing room. hopefully he can bring in someone with more experience. as others have commented, a good centre half, a nasty bastard midfielder and a striker would be my wish - spine of the team 'n that. maybe a full back too
a full back to replace Warnock would be nice. I think Warnock has squad value, but I'd love Houllier to unearth a new Evra. I don't think we've had a great bombing down the wing type full back since Staunton have we?
feel a bit sorry for warnock. when he first arrived he seemed to want to get forward a lot and was then told to stay back by MON. Only my opinion but he did look quite attacking to start with. i don't put him into the non-trying members of the squad to be honest. He's just been crap basically. god knows whats wrong.
If Fofana only has a "minor" injury wonder if he is going to sign him at the end of the month ???
Houllier said "not likely". Maybe in the Summer. Sounds to me like the lad may need an operation. Maybe something hard to see if it will clear up easily eg Back, Knee etc
I know you tube clips can be misleading. But Lucina Traore who the Daily Mail say we are in for really looks the part. 6`8 20yrs old, two feet and is good in the air. Maybe this is fantastic editing. (first 10 min clip on you tube)
He's heard about the multi millionaires at Villa and wants some of it, obviously putting money before ambition.
He's heard about the multi millionaires at Villa and wants some of it, obviously putting money before ambition.
Did you say "stars"?!!!!!He's heard about the multi millionaires at Villa and wants some of it, obviously putting money before ambition.
He probably found out how much the two stars he'd be replacing (Sidwell,Ireland) were on.
Did you say "stars"?!!!!!He's heard about the multi millionaires at Villa and wants some of it, obviously putting money before ambition.
He probably found out how much the two stars he'd be replacing (Sidwell,Ireland) were on.
But if Houllier can't even attract French players he's worked with who can he attract (other than Pires)?
He is the footballing equivalent of Gordon Brown I fear
But if Houllier can't even attract French players he's worked with who can he attract (other than Pires)?
Does Houllier serve any purpose, never wanted him as manager but thought he may at least be able to attract some decent players. Jeez what a fucking shambles we've become......
He is the footballing equivalent of Gordon Brown I fear
good stuff. Another day of slagging of your club lies ahead I see.
He is the footballing equivalent of Gordon Brown I fear
good stuff. Another day of slagging of your club lies ahead I see.
It's not slagging off the club, I will be there against Sunderland roaring them on !!
I simply don't think we'll survive if GH stays, bad appointment
bottom line is if he wants more than the club are prepared to pay, he won't join. Doesn't matter who's in charge. going to be a lot of this until we repair the mistakes of MON's reign and get the wage bill under control
I think it is great news if true, Martin will have paid him what ever he wants.
Villa are going through transition and one of the things changing is stupid wages to unproven or average players.
But if Houllier can't even attract French players he's worked with who can he attract (other than Pires)?
Does Houllier serve any purpose, never wanted him as manager but thought he may at least be able to attract some decent players. Jeez what a fucking shambles we've become......
When did "fail a medical" become "can't attract"?
Losing out on a potential star over a few bob and getting a 28 year old striker from the MLS with an ok scoring record because there is "no cost, no risk".....pretty clear what kind of parameters Houllier will be working within over this transfer window.
But if Houllier can't even attract French players he's worked with who can he attract (other than Pires)?
Does Houllier serve any purpose, never wanted him as manager but thought he may at least be able to attract some decent players. Jeez what a fucking shambles we've become......
When did "fail a medical" become "can't attract"?
Who has said he failed a medical? Houllier didn't mention it.
So we are all complaining that our wage bill is too high.
Now we are complaining that we haven't signed a player who is asking for too much.
I think it is good that the club are making a stance and thinking of the long term, instead of our last manager who just cared about short term success and personal
Glory.
If true well done Gerrard.
Would Cummings need a work permit if we got him on loan?
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2010/12/31/fofana-deal-off-as-aston-villa-turn-to-cummings/
It appears the Forfana deal fell through based on wages not a medical
Strange as he's young and supposedly talented and you'd have thought the board could have seen this as a shrewd investment, the lad could be worth millions in a couple of years time
Whatever comes from this transfer window, we'll know whether our board means business or not. Early signs suggest the latter, but let's see what happens.
Whatever comes from this transfer window, we'll know whether our board means business or not. Early signs suggest the latter, but let's see what happens.
regardless of whether we have money or not to spend im not sure as things stand if i would want to let Houllier have money in the the January transfer window
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
Guzan has never had a chance because of Friedel's consecutive appearance record. And was we ll and truly shafted in the Carling Cup final.
It appears the Forfana deal fell through based on wages not a medical
Strange as he's young and supposedly talented and you'd have thought the board could have seen this as a shrewd investment, the lad could be worth millions in a couple of years time
Brad on his way out??
skysportsnews (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6626796,00.html)
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
But if Houllier can't even attract French players he's worked with who can he attract (other than Pires)?
Does Houllier serve any purpose, never wanted him as manager but thought he may at least be able to attract some decent players. Jeez what a fucking shambles we've become......
When did "fail a medical" become "can't attract"?
Who has said he failed a medical? Houllier didn't mention it.
That's what was said last night.
1 month loan deal sorted.Brad on his way out??
skysportsnews (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6626796,00.html)
Good. Patently not up to it in my book. The fact that Hull want him tells you all you need to know I think...
Some very hypocritical people on here.
1 month loan deal sorted.Brad on his way out??
skysportsnews (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11677_6626796,00.html)
Good. Patently not up to it in my book. The fact that Hull want him tells you all you need to know I think...
Fofana could have failed on the grounds of finding some long term problem, like when Aly Cissokho didn't go to Milan because the Lab showed that his teeth were so weird that they'd one day affect his posture and balance.
bottom line is if he wants more than the club are prepared to pay, he won't join. Doesn't matter who's in charge. going to be a lot of this until we repair the mistakes of MON's reign and get the wage bill under control
That's a very poor reflection on the executives at the club if a football manager is the one responsible for a badly balanced wage bill. Does that mean that the board were allowing MON to just pay players what he thought was right and nobody was monitoring expenditure or forecasts? What very poor management and business.
It appears the Forfana deal fell through based on wages not a medical
Strange as he's young and supposedly talented and you'd have thought the board could have seen this as a shrewd investment, the lad could be worth millions in a couple of years time
Looking at GH's comments and reading between the lines, it looks as though this lad wants far more than the comparable young players already at the club. Paying a lot more to a young player can really upset the pay structure. If this is the case, he must have wanted quite a bit more. It is a bit different for a senior player when there are many other things to take into account to justify wages that are different to others.
Fofana could have failed on the grounds of finding some long term problem, like when Aly Cissokho didn't go to Milan because the Lab showed that his teeth were so weird that they'd one day affect his posture and balance.
Some very hypocritical people on here.
If that's aimed at me then have the balls to say it.
I'd also like you to explain wjy mot signing a player we mostly quite excited about signing is "great news". It might be sensible business practice, or it might not be, but that's not the same thing at all.
As a fan of the football team rather than the business I'm much more concerened about us having a good team on the pitch that a healthy profit and loss acoount.
Some very hypocritical people on here.
If that's aimed at me then have the balls to say it.
I'd also like you to explain wjy mot signing a player we mostly quite excited about signing is "great news". It might be sensible business practice, or it might not be, but that's not the same thing at all.
As a fan of the football team rather than the business I'm much more concerened about us having a good team on the pitch that a healthy profit and loss acoount.
It was a general remark, but aimed at you aswell I suppose.
We all want the best for Aston Villa, we have just finished a period where we signed alot of average players and paid them alot of money, resulting in us having a very high wage bill.
We have now took a stand and changed our approach and people are moaning.
I am disappointed but let's face it lads he is a young french lad who has never played at the highest level in France never mind England.
We are in a transitional period where we are changing our recruitment policy, which includes not giving in to players high wage demands, especially young inexperienced 19 year olds.
Remember aswell guys that the crowda are well down at Villa Park, so there is even more emphasis on reducing the wage bill.
It appears the Forfana deal fell through based on wages not a medical
Strange as he's young and supposedly talented and you'd have thought the board could have seen this as a shrewd investment, the lad could be worth millions in a couple of years time
Looking at GH's comments and reading between the lines, it looks as though this lad wants far more than the comparable young players already at the club. Paying a lot more to a young player can really upset the pay structure. If this is the case, he must have wanted quite a bit more. It is a bit different for a senior player when there are many other things to take into account to justify wages that are different to others.
Exactly, think how many promising young players we have and how we could quite easily upset all of them in one swoop by bringing in a similar player on inflated wages. It's the wage structure that has got us into our current predicament and yet some people want us to go and perpetuate the problem.
Some very hypocritical people on here.
If that's aimed at me then have the balls to say it.
I'd also like you to explain wjy mot signing a player we mostly quite excited about signing is "great news". It might be sensible business practice, or it might not be, but that's not the same thing at all.
As a fan of the football team rather than the business I'm much more concerened about us having a good team on the pitch that a healthy profit and loss acoount.
It was a general remark, but aimed at you aswell I suppose.
We all want the best for Aston Villa, we have just finished a period where we signed alot of average players and paid them alot of money, resulting in us having a very high wage bill.
We have now took a stand and changed our approach and people are moaning.
I am disappointed but let's face it lads he is a young french lad who has never played at the highest level in France never mind England.
We are in a transitional period where we are changing our recruitment policy, which includes not giving in to players high wage demands, especially young inexperienced 19 year olds.
Remember aswell guys that the crowda are well down at Villa Park, so there is even more emphasis on reducing the wage bill.
It's still not great news, is it?
It's disappointing.
Darren GibsonPart of me thinks that anyone linking anything from that dimwit's website should be banned immediately, regardless of where it was originally quoted from.
http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/12/31/itk-darron-gibson-to-villa-and-positive-news-on-the-left-wingers-avfc/
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
remember when we signed that nobody from Trinidad & Tobago? I can only imagine what this place would have been like had the internet existed back then. It's not a permanent deal, so how about we just give the bloke a chance and get behind him?
Darren GibsonPart of me thinks that anyone linking anything from that dimwit's website should be banned immediately, regardless of where it was originally quoted from.
http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/12/31/itk-darron-gibson-to-villa-and-positive-news-on-the-left-wingers-avfc/
It appears the Forfana deal fell through based on wages not a medical
Strange as he's young and supposedly talented and you'd have thought the board could have seen this as a shrewd investment, the lad could be worth millions in a couple of years time
Looking at GH's comments and reading between the lines, it looks as though this lad wants far more than the comparable young players already at the club. Paying a lot more to a young player can really upset the pay structure. If this is the case, he must have wanted quite a bit more. It is a bit different for a senior player when there are many other things to take into account to justify wages that are different to others.
Exactly, think how many promising young players we have and how we could quite easily upset all of them in one swoop by bringing in a similar player on inflated wages. It's the wage structure that has got us into our current predicament and yet some people want us to go and perpetuate the problem.
Are you all on the stupid pills today? Who has said we should "perpetuate the problem"? If you want to try to convince yourself that not signing a promising young players is great news I can't stop you but at least make an effort to try to understand the counter argument.
Darren GibsonPart of me thinks that anyone linking anything from that dimwit's website should be banned immediately, regardless of where it was originally quoted from.
http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/12/31/itk-darron-gibson-to-villa-and-positive-news-on-the-left-wingers-avfc/
Some very hypocritical people on here.
If that's aimed at me then have the balls to say it.
I'd also like you to explain wjy mot signing a player we mostly quite excited about signing is "great news". It might be sensible business practice, or it might not be, but that's not the same thing at all.
As a fan of the football team rather than the business I'm much more concerened about us having a good team on the pitch that a healthy profit and loss acoount.
It was a general remark, but aimed at you aswell I suppose.
We all want the best for Aston Villa, we have just finished a period where we signed alot of average players and paid them alot of money, resulting in us having a very high wage bill.
We have now took a stand and changed our approach and people are moaning.
I am disappointed but let's face it lads he is a young french lad who has never played at the highest level in France never mind England.
We are in a transitional period where we are changing our recruitment policy, which includes not giving in to players high wage demands, especially young inexperienced 19 year olds.
Remember aswell guys that the crowda are well down at Villa Park, so there is even more emphasis on reducing the wage bill.
It's still not great news, is it?
It's disappointing.
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
remember when we signed that nobody from Trinidad & Tobago? I can only imagine what this place would have been like had the internet existed back then. It's not a permanent deal, so how about we just give the bloke a chance and get behind him?
Are you having a laugh on the Yorke comparison? Agreed that if he arrives we should get behind him of course.
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
remember when we signed that nobody from Trinidad & Tobago? I can only imagine what this place would have been like had the internet existed back then. It's not a permanent deal, so how about we just give the bloke a chance and get behind him?
Are you having a laugh on the Yorke comparison? Agreed that if he arrives we should get behind him of course.
why am I having a laugh? What was your opinon on Dwight Yorke when he first arrived? Any different to Cummings? You'd never heard of him - right? Nobody is saying Cummings is the next Dwight Yorke. But I am saying why would you dismiss a player so quickly without any knowledge of him whatsoever?
Cummings is 28, he's left it late.
The transfer window has yet to open, the time to judge Lerner is one month hence.
Some very hypocritical people on here.
If that's aimed at me then have the balls to say it.
I'd also like you to explain wjy mot signing a player we mostly quite excited about signing is "great news". It might be sensible business practice, or it might not be, but that's not the same thing at all.
As a fan of the football team rather than the business I'm much more concerened about us having a good team on the pitch that a healthy profit and loss acoount.
It was a general remark, but aimed at you aswell I suppose.
We all want the best for Aston Villa, we have just finished a period where we signed alot of average players and paid them alot of money, resulting in us having a very high wage bill.
We have now took a stand and changed our approach and people are moaning.
I am disappointed but let's face it lads he is a young french lad who has never played at the highest level in France never mind England.
We are in a transitional period where we are changing our recruitment policy, which includes not giving in to players high wage demands, especially young inexperienced 19 year olds.
Remember aswell guys that the crowda are well down at Villa Park, so there is even more emphasis on reducing the wage bill.
It's still not great news, is it?
It's disappointing.
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
remember when we signed that nobody from Trinidad & Tobago? I can only imagine what this place would have been like had the internet existed back then. It's not a permanent deal, so how about we just give the bloke a chance and get behind him?
Are you having a laugh on the Yorke comparison? Agreed that if he arrives we should get behind him of course.
why am I having a laugh? What was your opinon on Dwight Yorke when he first arrived? Any different to Cummings? You'd never heard of him - right? Nobody is saying Cummings is the next Dwight Yorke. But I am saying why would you dismiss a player so quickly without any knowledge of him whatsoever?
Cummings is 28, he's left it late.
He's a nobody. God help us if this is the sort of player Lerner is only willing to invest in.
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
remember when we signed that nobody from Trinidad & Tobago? I can only imagine what this place would have been like had the internet existed back then. It's not a permanent deal, so how about we just give the bloke a chance and get behind him?
Are you having a laugh on the Yorke comparison? Agreed that if he arrives we should get behind him of course.
why am I having a laugh? What was your opinon on Dwight Yorke when he first arrived? Any different to Cummings? You'd never heard of him - right? Nobody is saying Cummings is the next Dwight Yorke. But I am saying why would you dismiss a player so quickly without any knowledge of him whatsoever?
My opinion on Yorke was similar to my opinion on Forrester, Barry, L Moore and various others we have signed as 17 year olds with supposed bright futures ahead. We have had mixed results there. My opinion on this bloke is similar to the one I had on Bartelt, De Bilde, that Defender O'Leary signed (name escapes me), and the other not exactly fresh faced loanees we have taken on over the years. Get my drift? Like I say, when the bloke pulls the shirt on he'll get my full support, but it doesn't sound like the type of attacking player to help get us out of the shit.
Cummings has a club, he's just come on loan a bit like Larsson to Man ure or Beckham at Milan
What's wrong with everyone for god's sake
What we must avoid is panic signings such a Robbie Keane
I'd rather a Keane than some nobody from Jamaica.
remember when we signed that nobody from Trinidad & Tobago? I can only imagine what this place would have been like had the internet existed back then. It's not a permanent deal, so how about we just give the bloke a chance and get behind him?
Are you having a laugh on the Yorke comparison? Agreed that if he arrives we should get behind him of course.
why am I having a laugh? What was your opinon on Dwight Yorke when he first arrived? Any different to Cummings? You'd never heard of him - right? Nobody is saying Cummings is the next Dwight Yorke. But I am saying why would you dismiss a player so quickly without any knowledge of him whatsoever?
My opinion on Yorke was similar to my opinion on Forrester, Barry, L Moore and various others we have signed as 17 year olds with supposed bright futures ahead. We have had mixed results there. My opinion on this bloke is similar to the one I had on Bartelt, De Bilde, that Defender O'Leary signed (name escapes me), and the other not exactly fresh faced loanees we have taken on over the years. Get my drift? Like I say, when the bloke pulls the shirt on he'll get my full support, but it doesn't sound like the type of attacking player to help get us out of the shit.
I seem to remember when Donovan joined Everton last year most people wrote him off. How did that work out? I'm not saying he's about to bag us 15 goals. But it's no lose situation for us and the player and isn't any indication of our transfer strategy.
When has he failed to back a manager?
Have we signed anybody yet?
Have we signed anybody yet?
You tell us, you're a day ahead.
This is getting f*cking stupid now. Either open ypour bloody wallet Lerner or just go. Its clear we're skint and going down. Another transfer window and we're dawdling. Fuming. Absolutely bloody fuming.
I see we are being linked with a loan move for Adebayor. He's on massive coin so Man City would have to pony up a good chunk of that. He can certainly play, and for 6 months he might make a difference. I'd take that, ship Dunne to Blackburn as part exchange for Samba and send Ireland to Everton in a swap for Pienaar. Bring in Makoun, a left back, possibly Given and sneak Fofana in at the deadline. Done.Adebayor is on 180K a week but other than that you are the Manager!
This is getting f*cking stupid now. Either open ypour bloody wallet Lerner or just go. Its clear we're skint and going down. Another transfer window and we're dawdling. Fuming. Absolutely bloody fuming.
I've just had my first major domestic with her indoors inside an hour of the new year, is this a record ?
This could be a very long 2011
When has he failed to back a manager?
The last transfer window? (When we had a manager before he left!)
Samba plays on the left of the back two doesn't he?
Which would suggest he'd have some sort of understanding with Warnock, considering their form together at Blackburn. Likewise Friedel too.
Young - Cuellar - Samba - Warnock
Looks a solid back four to me. I'd like Maynor Figueroa too, but I guess that's only gonna happen if Warnock goes.
Looking at BBC website and two headlines grabbed me
Redknapp unlikely to splash the cash
Redknapp to offer loan to Beckham
Surely not a volte face from 'onest 'arry?
Looking at BBC website and two headlines grabbed me
Redknapp unlikely to splash the cash
Redknapp to offer loan to Beckham
Surely not a volte face from 'onest 'arry?
You've spelled revolting wrong.
Looking at BBC website and two headlines grabbed me
Redknapp unlikely to splash the cash
Redknapp to offer loan to Beckham
Surely not a volte face from 'onest 'arry?
You've spelled revolting wrong.
So Guzon out on loan to the Tigers for a month?????
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2255466,00.html
So Guzon out on loan to the Tigers for a month?????
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2255466,00.html
He must have a keeper lined up then?
So Guzon out on loan to the Tigers for a month?????
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2255466,00.html
He must have a keeper lined up then?
Adebayor loan deal rumours flying about this morning ,,,, thoughts ???? I reckon it could be a cracking dealIt would be but his wages will be the stumbling block........he is on £165,000.00 pw and that is way out of our league and Citeh are refusing to subsidise any "loanee's wages". That has scuppered Wayne Bridges move to West Spam
Adebayor loan deal rumours flying about this morning ,,,, thoughts ???? I reckon it could be a cracking dealIt would be but his wages will be the stumbling block........he is on £165,000.00 pw and that is way out of our league and Citeh are refusing to subsidise any "loanee's wages". That has scuppered Wayne Bridges move to West Spam
It would completely confuse the notion we are trying to lower the wage bill as I'm sure we'd have to pay at least 50% of his wages?
Bendtner could be available for 6.5 million according to SSN, Arsenal have rejected 5million bid from fulham.
But Adebayor would be brilliant for us.
I can see us bringing in Samba.
I can see us bringing in Samba.
Got any ITK info Dave?
I think he would be a good signing, Strong and just what we need to be honest
Bridge wouldn't be a bad shout for left back.Not on £87,000 pw he wont
I'd be worried about the baggage and attitude Adebayour would bring
I'd be worried about the baggage and attitude Adebayour would bring
Too many Gucci suitcases and a Prada handbag?
I'd be worried about the baggage and attitude Adebayour would bring
I'd be worried about the baggage and attitude Adebayour would bring
I'd be worried about the baggage and attitude Adebayour would bring
In Today's Times it says, "However, it is unclear how Villa expect to fund Adebayor's wages of £150,000 a week
I would love it if we got Adebayor, even if it was just for a few months.
Samba plays on the left of the back two doesn't he?
Which would suggest he'd have some sort of understanding with Warnock, considering their form together at Blackburn. Likewise Friedel too.
Young - Cuellar - Samba - Warnock
Looks a solid back four to me. I'd like Maynor Figueroa too, but I guess that's only gonna happen if Warnock goes.
Samba plays on the left of the back two doesn't he?
Which would suggest he'd have some sort of understanding with Warnock, considering their form together at Blackburn. Likewise Friedel too.
8 cans! An early night then??
Young - Cuellar - Samba - Warnock
Looks a solid back four to me. I'd like Maynor Figueroa too, but I guess that's only gonna happen if Warnock goes.
It looks about as solid as my new years day bowel movement after 8 cans of guinness last night.
Adebayor - It makes me laugh on here. Aren't most top players 'cocks'? Take Rooney for example, a plonker with plenty of baggage but no doubting a top player. Tevez, recently proved he's a bit of plonker and the list goes on. Players play football and I'm not overly concerned what they choose to do in their own time. The people that call these players cocks are the same ones that would call Shearer 'Mary Poppins' so it's swings and roundabouts.
erm....MON signed a lot of nice players and they currently aren't showing much bottle either
Adebayor - It makes me laugh on here. Aren't most top players 'cocks'? Take Rooney for example, a plonker with plenty of baggage but no doubting a top player. Tevez, recently proved he's a bit of plonker and the list goes on. Players play football and I'm not overly concerned what they choose to do in their own time. The people that call these players cocks are the same ones that would call Shearer 'Mary Poppins' so it's swings and roundabouts.
People were making the same excuses about why we should sign Ireland.
What we need are players with some bottle to help battle our way out of the position we find ourselves not ones who are going to sulk if things don't go their way.
they showed it when things were going right. big difference
they showed it when things were going right. big difference
Adebayor - It makes me laugh on here. Aren't most top players 'cocks'? Take Rooney for example, a plonker with plenty of baggage but no doubting a top player. Tevez, recently proved he's a bit of plonker and the list goes on. Players play football and I'm not overly concerned what they choose to do in their own time. The people that call these players cocks are the same ones that would call Shearer 'Mary Poppins' so it's swings and roundabouts.
People were making the same excuses about why we should sign Ireland.
What we need are players with some bottle to help battle our way out of the position we find ourselves not ones who are going to sulk if things don't go their way.
Players don't play for a manager these days, they play for themselves. If they have the hunger then the team benefits. Money means most players are divs.
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their nose up to a 25m striker? mad
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their noses up to a 25m striker? mad
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their nose up to a 25m striker? mad
It's the Ireland situation all over again; because he's a good player people are ignoring his attitude problems.
It's like a woman who goes out with a bloke who is never faithful believeing she'll be the one to tame him. It never happens.
Leeds and Leicester are leading the chase for Aston Villa's Isaiah Osbourne, skysports.com understands.
The 23-year-old midfielder has failed to feature under Gerard Houllier this term and is now looking for a loan switch.
Osbourne has impressed during previous spells in the Championship with Nottingham Forest and Middlesbrough, and now a number of clubs are looking to take him.
Skysports.com understands up to half-a-dozen clubs are wanting to take Osbourne, with Leeds and Leicester heading the chase.
Osbourne's current deal is due to expire in the summer, but he realises a move away from Villa Park is required to kick-start his career
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
Nico Kranjcar - has anyone mentioned him ?
He's the type of player we could do with, he can shoot as well as create.
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
The last one I can remember who got even close was Withe.
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
The last one I can remember who got even close was Withe.
And he was more like 1 in 2 1/2. We don't do regular goalscorers.
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
Richard Walker?
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
Richard Walker?
I said at the time that someone in years to come will look at his record and think we dropped a right bollock letting him go.
If he plays, he scores goals.
Since his early 20s he's been a 1 in 2 striker.
And the last one of those we had was????
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their noses up to a 25m striker? mad
Its about time we had a seriously able striker then.
I trust Gabby to do well and I still believe in the promise of Fonz and Weimann but we couldn't half do with a regular goalscorer right now.
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their noses up to a 25m striker? mad
Because he's a £25m striker with a stroppy attitude who only went to City for the money and a fat lot of good he's done there. Good player but not want you want in a possible relegation dog fight.
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their noses up to a 25m striker? mad
Because he's a £25m striker with a stroppy attitude who only went to City for the money and a fat lot of good he's done there. Good player but not want you want in a possible relegation dog fight.
so you'd turn down rooney on the same grounds? Pray tell who is your ideal target bearing in mind we have 15m at most to spend on all deficiences in our squad
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their noses up to a 25m striker? mad
Because he's a £25m striker with a stroppy attitude who only went to City for the money and a fat lot of good he's done there. Good player but not want you want in a possible relegation dog fight.
so you'd turn down rooney on the same grounds? Pray tell who is your ideal target bearing in mind we have 15m at most to spend on all deficiences in our squad
Well if you've watched Rooney via your satellite contraption today, you'll see he ran his arse off all over the pitch and i think most people would have him in their side over Adebayor. Besides, Rooney is'nt a £25m pound striker.
Agreed jj but not sure about your valuations- I think samba, wheater and bentner would cost more than that- keeper wise we would probably have to pay a nominal fee as well.
I don't know much about Weidenfeller,
I don't know much about Weidenfeller,
He's kept a clean sheet in half his games this season, a better record than anyone else in germany. I've not seen him play though.
Just looking and he's been at Dortmund for nine years but has only made 180 appearances so he's not been first choice long, despite being over 30 now.
On another note I see that their manager is called Jupp Klopp and they have a midfielder called Sven Bender.
Just looking and he's been at Dortmund for nine years but has only made 180 appearances so he's not been first choice long, despite being over 30 now.
On another note I see that their manager is called Jupp Klopp and they have a midfielder called Sven Bender.
Don't forget explosion-in-a-consonant-factory Jakub Błaszczykowski.
The difference between Rooney and Adebayor was demonstrated in injury time of the game just shown. Can anyone seriously imagine Adebayor coming back on with an injury for the last 5 minutes? Whatever you think of Rooney as a man you cannot question his commitment on the pitch.
In any case I think this whole thing is purely hypothetical as I don't think we can afford his wages.
Has Omar Sharif signed yet?
Has Omar Sharif signed yet?
No where to park his camel! Unless he uses the bike racks on the wall just outside the players car park.
Aye. can't see how he wouldn't improve our striking options. people have been moaning on here about us giving a trial to a yank based striker and now they're turning their noses up to a 25m striker? mad
Because he's a £25m striker with a stroppy attitude who only went to City for the money and a fat lot of good he's done there. Good player but not want you want in a possible relegation dog fight.
so you'd turn down rooney on the same grounds? Pray tell who is your ideal target bearing in mind we have 15m at most to spend on all deficiences in our squad
Well if you've watched Rooney via your satellite contraption today, you'll see he ran his arse off all over the pitch and i think most people would have him in their side over Adebayor. Besides, Rooney is'nt a £25m pound striker.
he still has exactly the same traits as adeboyer. i mean at least Adebayor isn't happy because he can't get a game. rooney wanted out because he was worried about his salary. But i digress, who would you go for? given your criteria. lots of bottle, non-temperamental. falls into our price range?
Sorry that sounds a bit arsey but who?
People seem to forget how Adebayor was greatly affected by the African Nations shooting incident. Can't knock him for that.
If you’re going to engage in petty racism/xenophobia (delete as applicable) then at least look at a map and see what the distance is between the Middle East and Jamaica. You might make yourselves sound less dim-witted.
If you’re going to engage in petty racism/xenophobia (delete as applicable) then at least look at a map and see what the distance is between the Middle East and Jamaica. You might make yourselves sound less dim-witted.
To be fair, the joke is that Omar is the name of the actor Omar Sharif, who is of Egyptian descent, hence the posters are carrying on as if we'd signed that Omar, rather than the one we have signed (who isn't the homosexual Baltimore native bad motherfucker Omar, either).
If you’re going to engage in petty racism/xenophobia (delete as applicable) then at least look at a map and see what the distance is between the Middle East and Jamaica. You might make yourselves sound less dim-witted.
To be fair, the joke is that Omar is the name of the actor Omar Sharif, who is of Egyptian descent, hence the posters are carrying on as if we'd signed that Omar, rather than the one we have signed (who isn't the homosexual Baltimore native bad motherfucker Omar, either).
I got that. It still smells of lolz, dem darkies look all the same.
What does 'lolz' smell like?
Onion?
If you’re going to engage in petty racism/xenophobia (delete as applicable) then at least look at a map and see what the distance is between the Middle East and Jamaica. You might make yourselves sound less dim-witted.
To be fair, the joke is that Omar is the name of the actor Omar Sharif, who is of Egyptian descent, hence the posters are carrying on as if we'd signed that Omar, rather than the one we have signed (who isn't the homosexual Baltimore native bad motherfucker Omar, either).
I got that. It still smells of lolz, dem darkies look all the same.
SSN Twitter feed is claiming that Samba is happy to remain at Blackburn. Make of that what you will!
If you’re going to engage in petty racism/xenophobia (delete as applicable) then at least look at a map and see what the distance is between the Middle East and Jamaica. You might make yourselves sound less dim-witted.
SSN Twitter feed is claiming that Samba is happy to remain at Blackburn. Make of that what you will!
According to today's press we are being linked with sissoko at juventus, samba looks set to join spurs as does beckham, and Liverpool and man u preparing £15m bids for ashley young- all will be revealed in the fullness of time!
Pienaar's contract is out in the summer, surely we should be in for a player like this? Papers reckon Everton will sell for £3m.
Pienaar's contract is out in the summer, surely we should be in for a player like this? Papers reckon Everton will sell for £3m.
This is true.
We should be looking at him,doubt if he'd be looking at us.
Pienaar's contract is out in the summer, surely we should be in for a player like this? Papers reckon Everton will sell for £3m.
macheda is not what we need, and he is not half the player that delfouneso is..
macheda is not what we need, and he is not half the player that delfouneso is..
macheda is not what we need, and he is not half the player that delfouneso is..
Blimey. That's a statement!
I'm with you Villa1 on this. If Macheda is not half the player that Delfouneso is, I need a trip to Specsavers in the New Year...
Aston Villa and Newcastle go head-to-head for £7m-rated PSG winger Stephane Sessegnon
By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 10:52 AM on 2nd January 2011
The 26-year-old right winger is contracted until 2013 but wants to quit after a bust-up with his manager.
The Benin international is valued at £7million but both Villa and Newcastle are confident of securing a knockdown price.
Sessegnon revealed last month that it was 'impossible' for him to stay at PSG after being insulted by boss Antoine Kombouare. He claims Kombouare swore at him in training.
Sessegnon said: 'The coach insulted me. I believe that a coach cannot call one of his players 'a******' or call him 'a s*** player' as was the case with me.
'That is what he said to me, I am not going to cover up what he said
the only thing that will stop delfouneso becoming excellent, would be an attitude problem...
the only thing that will stop delfouneso becoming excellent, would be an attitude problem...
Or full blown footballing stupidity.
I won't get on his back, as you say, he's just a kid, but Jesus.
If the real Richard Dunne is back and he and Ged have let bygones be bygones we can cut a new Centre half of our list.
Macheda scored those two goals against us, then swaggered around Utd like a mini-me version of Ronaldo. I think he's too arrogant. I'm also quite sure his development has halted somewhat because he's not working hard enough. In the past two years, had he really work his balls off, Fergie would have played him more. But, he hit a few headlines and thought he was a superstar.
Fonzie any day of the week for me. Macheda's gifted, and an excellent finisher, but he just fancies himself far too much. Fonzies attitude has been questioned, but Macheda would be far worse. I also think, he'd believe he was too good for us.
Macheda scored those two goals against us, then swaggered around Utd like a mini-me version of Ronaldo. I think he's too arrogant. I'm also quite sure his development has halted somewhat because he's not working hard enough. In the past two years, had he really work his balls off, Fergie would have played him more. But, he hit a few headlines and thought he was a superstar.
Fonzie any day of the week for me. Macheda's gifted, and an excellent finisher, but he just fancies himself far too much. Fonzies attitude has been questioned, but Macheda would be far worse. I also think, he'd believe he was too good for us.
Macheda's been living off that goal he scored against us last season for a while now. If we're gonna bring in a loan player it should be someone who's experienced,we've got plenty of our own youngsters.
QuoteAston Villa and Newcastle go head-to-head for £7m-rated PSG winger Stephane Sessegnon
By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 10:52 AM on 2nd January 2011
The 26-year-old right winger is contracted until 2013 but wants to quit after a bust-up with his manager.
The Benin international is valued at £7million but both Villa and Newcastle are confident of securing a knockdown price.
Sessegnon revealed last month that it was 'impossible' for him to stay at PSG after being insulted by boss Antoine Kombouare. He claims Kombouare swore at him in training.
Sessegnon said: 'The coach insulted me. I believe that a coach cannot call one of his players 'a******' or call him 'a s*** player' as was the case with me.
'That is what he said to me, I am not going to cover up what he said
Don't know much about him, but he's very quick and skilful, but possibly a bit of a loose cannon. Maybe someone who follows Ligue 1 could comment. Here are some highlights. He could take Carew's 10 shirt should he sign
Sessegnon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CIABWiv8lQ&feature=related)
QuoteAston Villa and Newcastle go head-to-head for £7m-rated PSG winger Stephane Sessegnon
By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 10:52 AM on 2nd January 2011
The 26-year-old right winger is contracted until 2013 but wants to quit after a bust-up with his manager.
The Benin international is valued at £7million but both Villa and Newcastle are confident of securing a knockdown price.
Sessegnon revealed last month that it was 'impossible' for him to stay at PSG after being insulted by boss Antoine Kombouare. He claims Kombouare swore at him in training.
Sessegnon said: 'The coach insulted me. I believe that a coach cannot call one of his players 'a******' or call him 'a s*** player' as was the case with me.
'That is what he said to me, I am not going to cover up what he said
Don't know much about him, but he's very quick and skilful, but possibly a bit of a loose cannon. Maybe someone who follows Ligue 1 could comment. Here are some highlights. He could take Carew's 10 shirt should he sign
Sessegnon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CIABWiv8lQ&feature=related)
The difference between Rooney and Adebayor was demonstrated in injury time of the game just shown. Can anyone seriously imagine Adebayor coming back on with an injury for the last 5 minutes? Whatever you think of Rooney as a man you cannot question his commitment on the pitch.
In any case I think this whole thing is purely hypothetical as I don't think we can afford his wages.
Macheda is better than the Fonz at the moment and would score goals in my opinion.
Macheda is better than the Fonz at the moment and would score goals in my opinion.
Why should we take another club's young player and build him up at the expense of our own.
Macheda is better than the Fonz at the moment and would score goals in my opinion.
Why should we take another club's young player and build him up at the expense of our own.
QuoteAston Villa and Newcastle go head-to-head for £7m-rated PSG winger Stephane Sessegnon
By Sportsmail Reporter Last updated at 10:52 AM on 2nd January 2011
The 26-year-old right winger is contracted until 2013 but wants to quit after a bust-up with his manager.
The Benin international is valued at £7million but both Villa and Newcastle are confident of securing a knockdown price.
Sessegnon revealed last month that it was 'impossible' for him to stay at PSG after being insulted by boss Antoine Kombouare. He claims Kombouare swore at him in training.
Sessegnon said: 'The coach insulted me. I believe that a coach cannot call one of his players 'a******' or call him 'a s*** player' as was the case with me.
'That is what he said to me, I am not going to cover up what he said
Don't know much about him, but he's very quick and skilful, but possibly a bit of a loose cannon. Maybe someone who follows Ligue 1 could comment. Here are some highlights. He could take Carew's 10 shirt should he sign
Sessegnon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CIABWiv8lQ&feature=related)
BBC Gossip says Warnock could be going back to Blackburn for 2 million, any takers?
;)
BBC Gossip says Warnock could be going back to Blackburn for 2 million, any takers?
;)
They can fuck off with £2m, the cheeky sods.
Woodgate is an excellent defender,IF he could stay fit he would be ideal for us.
BBC Gossip says Warnock could be going back to Blackburn for 2 million, any takers?
;)
They can fuck off with £2m, the cheeky sods.
They have quoted that as apparantly thats what we still owe them for him
BBC Gossip says Warnock could be going back to Blackburn for 2 million, any takers?
;)
Figueroa not in the Wigan starting team...
I think Woodgate is made out of Lego. After every game you can take him to bits and build a fire engine or a snake
I can't work out if his middle name is "IL" as in Kim Jong-Il or II as in the Roman numeral for 2.
I'd hope it is the latter. Funky.
Actually, it could be eleven.
Jean Eleven Makoun.
I can't work out if his middle name is "IL" as in Kim Jong-Il or II as in the Roman numeral for 2.
I'd hope it is the latter. Funky.
Actually, it could be eleven.
Jean Eleven Makoun.
Presumably Jean Onze Makoun?
According to the Mirror. Spurs are willing to sell Keane, Krancjar and Bentley but only if they can get £29m for them.
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According to the Mirror. Spurs are willing to sell Keane, Krancjar and Bentley but only if they can get £29m for them.
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That is a funny not worth more that 5 million each if that.
According to the Mirror. Spurs are willing to sell Keane, Krancjar and Bentley but only if they can get £29m for them.
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According to the Mirror. Spurs are willing to sell Keane, Krancjar and Bentley but only if they can get £29m for them.
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No chance. Either Spurs, or The Mirror, are on a different planet to the rest of us.
Thats almost 10m each for fringe players, what do we get for ours? Couple of mill if we r lucky
: Rangers keeper Allan McGregor is wanted by Aston Villa 2nd January 2011 By Harry PrattI'm old enough to crap myself at the thought of Scottish keepers! - after Brad's shift yesterday for goodness sake give him a new contract I say!
ASTON VILLA are ready to step up their £4million pursuit of Rangers keeper Allan McGregor.
Manager Gerard Houllier has had scouts monitoring the progress of the Scottish international (below) during the past couple of months.
And the struggling Midlands outfit have now decided that McGregor, 28, is the best available long-term replacement for their veteran stopper Brad Friedel.
American Friedel, 39, is still waiting to find out if he will be offered a new one-year deal by Villa at the end of this season.
But that depends on whether they persuade Scottish champions Rangers to sell McGregor – either in the current transfer window or next summer.
If they do tie up a deal for McGregor – who has been capped seven times by Scotland – then Friedel will definitely be surplus to requirements at Villa Park.
As for a goalkeeper, I see Thomas Kuszczak is considering a move, Baggies fans say he is the beat keeper they have had for 30 years
http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/glasgow/3311141/Fiancee-of-Gers-ace-Allan-McGregor-in-agony-over-pics-of-him-kissing-two-women.html
An 'on the piss my Lord' McGregor is a bit of a ladeeeeeeeeeeees man ;-)
As for a goalkeeper, I see Thomas Kuszczak is considering a move, Baggies fans say he is the beat keeper they have had for 30 years
Not much competition though is there. Russell Hoult and Tony Lange?
kranjaer is class. i'd take him anyday. If it wasnt for modric, he would be in their starting line up easily. I think we could really use him....According to the Mirror. Spurs are willing to sell Keane, Krancjar and Bentley but only if they can get £29m for them.
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That is a funny not worth more that 5 million each if that.
And even at that I hope the Villa aren't their victims.
Kranjaer is a decent player at the right price(3-4m).The other two i wouldn't touch with a bargepole
All 500k of it?
Agree on Krancjaer... good player and would do us good.
Kuzcak's a good stopper but his kicking is awful. As for Woodgate, no thanks, we don't need scum like him and Barton at Aston Villa. How are we going to attract more of the local (mainly Asian) population into The Home of World Football if we sign half of the British National Party?
Wasn't Woodgate 19 when arrested, is it possible he might have changed and grown up eleven years later?
He's the best English centre half in the country when fit, its a shame that those days are so few and far between.
Wasn't Woodgate 19 when arrested, is it possible he might have changed and grown up eleven years later?
He's the best English centre half in the country when fit, its a shame that those days are so few and far between.
If everyone was fully match fit, Rio is the best English CB by far.
If the real Richard Dunne is back and he and Ged have let bygones be bygones we can cut a new Centre half of our list.
Agreed! There seemed to be a real unity about the team today. Would much prefer to look at new CB's in the summer when the likes of Adil Rami et al would be available.
Interesting on Figureoa, he was suspended for a game just before Christmas and hasn't come back to the starting line up since. Can't find anything stating he's injured. Would be a good option for us.
Wasn't Woodgate 19 when arrested, is it possible he might have changed and grown up eleven years later?
He's the best English centre half in the country when fit, its a shame that those days are so few and far between.
Wasn't Woodgate 19 when arrested, is it possible he might have changed and grown up eleven years later?
He's the best English centre half in the country when fit, its a shame that those days are so few and far between.
He and Bowyer and some other white mates chased and beat up an Asian kid for being er...Asian. Not for being just another kid where fights can happen at that age because of male bravado. Do you think racism is something that you can just grow out of? Or is it always in you even if as you grow older it just becomes dormant because society tells you that you won't get ahead if you keep acting that way?
Sidwell has completed his move to West HamGood.
Sidwell has completed his move to West HamGood.
He was about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
In similar vein, I always referred to him as "as much use as a chocolate teapot".Sidwell has completed his move to West HamGood.
He was about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
Where is Sidwell's move confirmed.
It's not on the official sites.
Wasn't Woodgate 19 when arrested, is it possible he might have changed and grown up eleven years later?
He's the best English centre half in the country when fit, its a shame that those days are so few and far between.
He and Bowyer and some other white mates chased and beat up an Asian kid for being er...Asian. Not for being just another kid where fights can happen at that age because of male bravado. Do you think racism is something that you can just grow out of? Or is it always in you even if as you grow older it just becomes dormant because society tells you that you won't get ahead if you keep acting that way?
Sidwell has completed his move to West Ham
Sidwell has completed his move to West Ham:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Sidwell has completed his move to West Ham
In similar vein, I always referred to him as "as much use as a chocolate teapot".Sidwell has completed his move to West HamGood.
He was about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
A one armed taxi driver with crabs.In similar vein, I always referred to him as "as much use as a chocolate teapot".Sidwell has completed his move to West HamGood.
He was about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
What else was Sidwell as useful as? Tits on a fish? A condom machine in the Vatican? Get your suggestions in now folks!
A one armed taxi driver with crabs.In similar vein, I always referred to him as "as much use as a chocolate teapot".Sidwell has completed his move to West HamGood.
He was about as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike.
What else was Sidwell as useful as? Tits on a fish? A condom machine in the Vatican? Get your suggestions in now folks!
Wasn't Woodgate 19 when arrested, is it possible he might have changed and grown up eleven years later?
He's the best English centre half in the country when fit, its a shame that those days are so few and far between.
He and Bowyer and some other white mates chased and beat up an Asian kid for being er...Asian. Not for being just another kid where fights can happen at that age because of male bravado. Do you think racism is something that you can just grow out of? Or is it always in you even if as you grow older it just becomes dormant because society tells you that you won't get ahead if you keep acting that way?
I've just had a quick scan I cant see any evidence offered at the trial that the attack was racially motivated or that those convicted ever faced the 'racially aggrivated' versions of the charges.
But in answer to your question, yes of course I think people can change.
Sarfraz, whose leg, nose and cheekbone were broken during an assault by five men in January last year, disputed trial judge Mr Justice Henriques's ruling that racism had nothing to do with it.
Moments before a chase involving the student, his friends and a group of white men outside the Majestyk nightclub in Leeds, one of the whites said: 'Do you want some, Paki?'. 'I took that as meaning, "Do you want a fight",' Sarfraz tells tonight's BBC Panorama programme. 'I just thought they're racist scum, so I just ignored them because there were too many of them and I'm not a trouble-causer.'
If I could choose one gettable player in January, it would be N'Zogbia. He's looked brilliant the last few weeks.
If I could choose one gettable player in January, it would be N'Zogbia. He's looked brilliant the last few weeks.
If I could choose one gettable player in January, it would be N'Zogbia. He's looked brilliant the last few weeks.
Yes please. Potential for nuttery though, maybe send Ireland their way on loan as part of the deal.
Didn't Blues agree a £10 million fee with Wigan for N'Zogbia? £10 million seems a bit steep for someone who's probably going to start moaning about wanting to leave after a season.They did, he agreed wages and everything but then at the last minute he demanded they double his wages to approx £60,000pw and Blues did the right thing and told him to do one...........He is trouble, u only have to look at his sending off and no way is he worth £60,000 pw
I think we can get Jarvis for less.
I know we sometimes buy crap from relegated teams but if Wolves and Wigan go down, N'Zogbia, Rodallega and Jarvis are certainly three to look at in the summer.
As I remember the Bowyer/Woodgate trial the Sunday Mirror printed details of the case before it even started for some reason only the Sunday Mirror know why they did it.
I think it affected the overall case for the prosecution and it was close to being a mistrial.
Didn't Blues agree a £10 million fee with Wigan for N'Zogbia? £10 million seems a bit steep for someone who's probably going to start moaning about wanting to leave after a season.They did, he agreed wages and everything but then at the last minute he demanded they double his wages to approx £60,000pw and Blues did the right thing and told him to do one...........He is trouble, u only have to look at his sending off and no way is he worth £60,000 pw
Didn't Blues agree a £10 million fee with Wigan for N'Zogbia? £10 million seems a bit steep for someone who's probably going to start moaning about wanting to leave after a season.They did, he agreed wages and everything but then at the last minute he demanded they double his wages to approx £60,000pw and Blues did the right thing and told him to do one...........He is trouble, u only have to look at his sending off and no way is he worth £60,000 pw
Nearly as bad, he agreed wages of £40k and then wanted an additional £10k a week and they called the deal off.
Do we not have enough wingers?
QPR fans think Walker is on his way to B6;Just got to the bottom of the first page and wondered if they'd be interested in taking Villadawg on loan.
http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85579
Walker is shit defensively, absolutle pointless loan signing, I'd rather have Lichaj any day.
Walker is shit defensively, absolutle pointless loan signing, I'd rather have Lichaj any day.
He's gonna play at left back isn't he? That's where he played for Sheffield United IIRC... It would seem Warnock wants out too so kind of makes sense.
Highly rated so a loan with an option to buy makes sense, and if he's not up to it then Luke can cover there till end of the season.
Walker is shit defensively, absolutle pointless loan signing, I'd rather have Lichaj any day.
Walker is shit defensively, absolutle pointless loan signing, I'd rather have Lichaj any day.
Depressing that a club we were challenging last season is now willing to loan us their talented young players.
Depressing that a club we were challenging last season is now willing to loan us their talented young players.
In a few weeks four fifths of their midfield could read:
Beckham, Modric, Van Der Vaart, Bale
Puts it into perspective, what a monumental fuck up the back end of 2008/09 was.
Cahill has a very busy agent. He's been 'linked' with all of the Sky 4 at some point.i think this one has legs
Depressing that a club we were challenging last season is now willing to loan us their talented young players.
Didn't Blues agree a £10 million fee with Wigan for N'Zogbia? £10 million seems a bit steep for someone who's probably going to start moaning about wanting to leave after a season.They did, he agreed wages and everything but then at the last minute he demanded they double his wages to approx £60,000pw and Blues did the right thing and told him to do one...........He is trouble, u only have to look at his sending off and no way is he worth £60,000 pw
Nearly as bad, he agreed wages of £40k and then wanted an additional £10k a week and they called the deal off.
Depressing that a club we were challenging last season is now willing to loan us their talented young players.
In a few weeks four fifths of their midfield could read:
Beckham, Modric, Van Der Vaart, Bale
Davies plus £5m for Samba?Seems like an act of desperation.
That's a terrible deal.
Davies plus £5m for Samba?
That's a terrible deal.
Who cares about Beckham? Seriously?
The media's most over-hyped player finally joins the media's most over-hyped club. It was inevitable really. The media wankfest for this will be unbearable, but I don't think he'll add that much to them.
He's be on loan I'd guess or it's one hell of a coup. Very highly rated by all accounts.
According to that Nico bloke on 't Rovers forum we're signing Romeu.
Not the one from So Solid Crew unfortunately, the reserve Barcelona midfielder.
Never heard of him before TBH.
Meant to be the fallback option, with the deal for Fofana going south. Was meant to be flying in yesterday for talks.
He's be on loan I'd guess or it's one hell of a coup. Very highly rated by all accounts.
According to that Nico bloke on 't Rovers forum we're signing Romeu.He's the next Fabregas. Barcelona will be using dirty tactics in a few years time approaching him illegally begging on their knees quite literally (picture it however you want to).
Not the one from So Solid Crew unfortunately, the reserve Barcelona midfielder.
Never heard of him before TBH.
Meant to be the fallback option, with the deal for Fofana going south. Was meant to be flying in yesterday for talks.
He's be on loan I'd guess or it's one hell of a coup. Very highly rated by all accounts.
Injured last night, out for 3-5 months
http://www.elmundodeportivo.es/gen/20110104/54097445506/noticia/oriol-romeu-de-3-a-5-meses-de-baja.html
I'm more disappointed that Spurs are after Suarez...If they manage to pull that off then with VDV and him they really are stretching light years ahead of us.
When we were there or there abouts for three seasons they're the kind of signings we should have at least targeted. Spurs are making the most of their time in the sun...did we?
A tenuous link to Santa Cruz: http://bit.ly/dFzqdp
Davies plus £5m for Samba?
That's a terrible deal.
For Blackburn it is.
Davies plus £5m for Samba?
That's a terrible deal.
For Blackburn it is.
Eh? If you add on what Davies is worth to the fee, then it means we're paying 5m for Samba.
Oh.
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
Who is that then?
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
Who is that then?
Tall guy, funny hair, plays up top for Man City, the one who ran to celebrate in front of the Arsenal fans when he scored against them, dull as dishwater as a guest in the World Cup, you must know him surely...
Having just watched a very bizarre interview on Sky with the new owners at Blackburn, I would get some money on them to be relegated. Perhaps not this season, but definitely next.
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
Who is that then?
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
Who is that then?
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
Who is that then?
Oh, you must mean SWP, well that's the Socialist Workers Party and RSC is the Royal Shakespeare Company.
They would both be excellent signings in my opinion.
@b6news on Twitter claims we've spoke to Man City about Adebayor, SWP & RSC.
No thanks to SWP & RSC. Too old & not enough over the past couple of years.
Adebayor I'm guessing will go on loan to Real Madrid.
Who is that then?
Tall guy, funny hair, plays up top for Man City, the one who ran to celebrate in front of the Arsenal fans when he scored against them, dull as dishwater as a guest in the World Cup, you must know him surely...
He meant Real Madrid.
They're a large world reknowned club operating out of the Spanish capital, said to be the favoured club of right wing bastard; Generalisimo Don Francisco Franco. They never have to justify expenditure due to a supposedly inexhaustible amount of hidden Nazi war gold. Or summat.
As an aside, Franco made a name for himself during the Rif war without any obvious ability to play guitar.
Davies plus £5m for Samba?
That's a terrible deal.
For Blackburn it is.
Eh? If you add on what Davies is worth to the fee, then it means we're paying 5m for Samba.
Oh.
I'm confused, are you agreeing with me?
Having just watched a very bizarre interview on Sky with the new owners at Blackburn, I would get some money on them to be relegated. Perhaps not this season, but definitely next.
Done! I have €20 on @ 9/1 to be relegated and €5 on @ 50/1 to finish bottom. For me, it's Blackburn, SHA and A.N. Other to go down.
Anyway its good to see us being linked to players further afield than scotland. I know we joked about us not having european scouts but its seems that wasn't far from the truth if the stories about us setting up a scouting network only now are true. Unbelievable in this day and age
i think that was the papers crediting us with looking further afield than we actually did. I mean GH has actually talked about a foreign player as a target which is more than MON ever did
There's a blance to be struck with overseas players.i think that was the papers crediting us with looking further afield than we actually did. I mean GH has actually talked about a foreign player as a target which is more than MON ever did
Whilst that's true Greg and MON did'nt do it enough, it's not done Liverpool a fat lot of good, most of theirs are bloody hopeless.
Has Flamini been involved in Milan's opening games does anyone know? I wonder if he has an opinion on Houllier or has any experience of how he works .
Flamimi hasn't played in the first two games wasn't on the bench either.
I was watching a show on Milan the other night. It was in spanish so I did not understand much but it was saying that Flamini is on $4.5m a year. That's about $87k or £65-week.
Hmmm, I was actually expecting that to be a bigger number, however it is still a lot of money. Do you think he would take a pay-cut to come to Villa?
No need for a new topic for some random Spurs rumour.
Is it a bird with any history at all of getting things correct?
The Mail;Plz let this happen... Mbokani is quality - he's exactly the 'type' of striker we need.
Monaco prepared to swap striker Dieumerci Mbokani for Aston Villa misfit Stephen Ireland
Stephen Ireland could follow in the footsteps of Glenn Hoddle and John Collins after Monaco made it clear they will consider a swap deal with Aston Villa for him and Dieumerci Mbokani.
Monaco made their interest in Ireland known last week with chief executive Marc Keller, a former West Ham and Portsmouth midfielder, a confirmed fan of the 24-year-old.
Ireland is attracting attention from Premier League clubs but is rated at around £7m by Villa which is prohibitive while the player himself is unsure whether to leave as speculation continues over Gerard Houllier's long-term future.
However, Monaco are ready to use 6ft 1ins striker Mbokani having decided to offload him and knowing that Villa are among a group of clubs to express interest.
Mbokani, who has attracted inquiries from Everton and West Ham, would fit into Villa's style with his pace and power and is keen to work with a French coach such as Houllier.
Meanwhile, Curtis Davies returned to Aston Villa yesterday, and was subject of an inquiry by Queen's Park Rangers.
Davies finished a loan spell at Leicester City and was waiting to hear whether their £2.5m offer would be accepted. QPR's request comes after Villa asked to take Kyle Walker on loan from Tottenham who has been key to QPR's promotion drive this season.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1344096/Monaco-prepared-swap-striker-Dieumerci-Mbokani-Aston-Villa-misfit-Stephen-Ireland.html
Seen his name linked to a few clubs...what's Mbokani's scoring record like recently?Not amazing since he went to Monaco. Was good in Belgium though.
Judging by his performance tonight, Dickson Etuhu is one i'd keep an eye on, he's stil only 28 and could be a decent ball winning player for us. Maybe a short term replacement for Petrov or Reo?
Houllier wants Huddersfield hero to be a Villan
Gerard Houllier is lining up a £1.5million bid for Huddersfield goalkeeper Alex Smithies.
The Aston Villa boss has targeted Smithies, 20, after seeing him in action in the Terriers’ League One victory over Sheffield Wednesday on Monday.
The England Under-21 international is one of the most highly-rated keepers outside the top flight.
Rangers’ Allan McGregor could also be a Villa target as Houllier plans to shake up his goalkeeping options.
The Mirror - Clicky (http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Aston-Villa-are-lining-up-a-1-5million-bid-for-Huddersfields-England-Under-21-goalkeeper-Alex-Smithies-article664059.html#ixzz1A6zvxity)
Houllier wants Huddersfield hero to be a VillanIs that not the name a director uses on the credits if he wants to disown a film?
Gerard Houllier is lining up a £1.5million bid for Huddersfield goalkeeper Alex Smithies.
Houllier wants Huddersfield hero to be a VillanIs that not the name a director uses on the credits if he wants to disown a film?
Gerard Houllier is lining up a £1.5million bid for Huddersfield goalkeeper Alex Smithies.
I'd get Samba in.
I too usually thought he was just a lumbering oaf but watched him a bit more and he is reasonably quick (although Gabby has got the better of him a few times).
I'd give them 3m + Davies.
Judging by his performance tonight, Dickson Etuhu is one i'd keep an eye on, he's stil only 28 and could be a decent ball winning player for us. Maybe a short term replacement for Petrov or Reo?
Shades of a typical MoN signing to me, and his age combined with him not being very good doesn't make the whole affair particularly attractive.
I'm also one of those not particularly fussed with Samba.
Yes, he's decent and obviously a big physical presence but we have that already and if we're going to get another centre half I'd like something we have little of at the back, Ciaran Clark excepted, a centre half who is comfortable on the ball and who can read the game with ESP.
Or one who can cover full back too.
I'd still be inclined to go for Lescott. Or maybe theres an up and coming Italian lad. Christ, they used to produce a new master centre half every week in the 80s/90s.
Mbokani isn't PL material for me, just an average player. Think difficult to work with. Scored well in Belgium (Standard) but if you can't make it in France, how should he make it in the PL?
Re Kyle Walker - Why would we want to help Spurs by giving one of their young players experience and help buy him maybe but loan no thanks
Re Kyle Walker - Why would we want to help Spurs by giving one of their young players experience and help buy him maybe but loan no thanksI feel uneasy at getting a player on loan from Spurs. If Young is out for a while,it shows that GH doesn't fancy Lichaj.
He does cover positions across the back 4 but right and left back in particular.
He does cover positions across the back 4 but right and left back in particular.
That's t'other Kyle that Spurs have, Naughton.
I would only want him if there is a firm option to buy, why should we do those bastards any favours?
Thewages we get back for Sidwell, maybe Beye or someone similar, how about a Bid for Raul at struggling Schalke?
How much did Spurs pay for Naughton and Walker? I think it was an expensive combo deal.
Thewages we get back for Sidwell, maybe Beye or someone similar, how about a Bid for Raul at struggling Schalke?
I thought Sidwell's move hadn't gone through?
Thewages we get back for Sidwell, maybe Beye or someone similar, how about a Bid for Raul at struggling Schalke?
Thewages we get back for Sidwell, maybe Beye or someone similar, how about a Bid for Raul at struggling Schalke?
Saw Kyle walker playing for qpr last week and he was easily the best player on the pitch - attacking right back and solid defender- would be a very good signing - where was this reported as I haven't seen anything about it?
Thewages we get back for Sidwell, maybe Beye or someone similar, how about a Bid for Raul at struggling Schalke?
I thought Sidwell's move hadn't gone through?
Not yet but its only stalled hasn't it? Is likely to still go through.
Is makoun looking like he could sign or just speculation? Would be nice to add a keeper and striker this window too - anyone know if cummings is still on trial?
Why oh why did MON not sign Bent when we had the chance ?We were all asking that at one point.
Why oh why did MON not sign Bent when we had the chance ?
Who knows with all these Cummings and goings.
Sorry.
Didn't Defoe go back to Tottenham in the same transfer window as we got Heskey, Defoe was just what we needed at the time, I'd have had Bent as a 2nd choice as well.
Yes bent was more a priority than an injured downing- but in all honesty I'd rather have bent than gabby anyday - far better finisher!
Natural goalscorers are hard to get , when available we failed to get either Defoe or bent, I accept gabby was 1st choice striker but surely if you get a chance to bring in someone better in any position then we should try and do that- gabby is a decent striker but he will never be a prolific finisher and that is what we needed to get into the top 4.
We should have moved for Defoe when spurs sold him to Pompey in the 1st place .
H&V admin would probably tell you to go to the Transfers/Rumours/Bullshit thread...
I thought since Gary Macallister was talking about it in the past tense it was now a bit more than a rumour.
From what Mysteryman has said on VT, Redknapp and Walker want this to be permanent.That may go some way in explaining the delay in any announcement. If it was a loan deal, it's a fairly straight forward operation; agreeing a fee is another thing all together. The other point is that Spurs are not flush and always need to sell to buy.
And Walker is essentially a right back and where he'll most likely play.
You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
Yes I do, Dr Gonzo.
You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
Yes I do, Dr Gonzo.
You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
Mysteryman is not his real name, it's the Shoveller.You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
People I trust, trust him. That's good enough for me.
I've never been to his Island base or anything though.
anyone who watched qpr last week live on sky will have seen kyle walker put in a tremendous man of the match display , looked a really attacking right back and delivered several great crosses and also looked solid in defence- warnock was saying on goals on sunday he was desperate to keep him at qpr but the premiership clubs were after him.
id far rather sign him permanent than on loan - will prove to be a class signing!
Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
I honestly never wanted him.Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
haiku???Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
No, trust us, we dont want him. He's a decent player but, no thanks.
I do think he'd be a good move for Blues though.
By the way Sheldon, how good are the Haiku on your forums?
haiku???Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
No, trust us, we dont want him. He's a decent player but, no thanks.
I do think he'd be a good move for Blues though.
By the way Sheldon, how good are the Haiku on your forums?
haiku???Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
No, trust us, we dont want him. He's a decent player but, no thanks.
I do think he'd be a good move for Blues though.
By the way Sheldon, how good are the Haiku on your forums?
Mysteryman is not his real name, it's the Shoveller.You really trust the word of somebody who calls themselves 'Mysteryman'??
People I trust, trust him. That's good enough for me.
I've never been to his Island base or anything though.
Do me a favour lads,if keane come to villa you would being doing cartwheels and saying hes better than what we got....so cut the bullshit im to long in the tooth.....
Do me a favour lads,if keane come to villa you would being doing cartwheels and saying hes better than what we got....so cut the bullshit im to long in the tooth.....
haiku???
No, trust us, we dont want him. He's a decent player but, no thanks.
I do think he'd be a good move for Blues though.
By the way Sheldon, how good are the Haiku on your forums?
Do me a favour lads,if keane come to villa you would being doing cartwheels and saying hes better than what we got....so cut the bullshit im to long in the tooth.....
Cartwheels, Keane, Seriously....oh well if it keeps him happy.
Useful squad addition but no more than that. No idea if he's gonna be decent, he's hardly had a kick for 2 years...
Read this thread mate, you will find 80% of comments on Keane being derogatory for the last year or more. No one wants him, hence he is on his way to play for piss head at the sty.
Is that anywhere near sheldon dave?haiku???Hes better than heskey,carew,and delfonzo though......anyway i will put your statement in the file draw just incase he signs for you mate....Happy days if and its a big IF he signs for blues ..cant see it hapening really... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_6636183,00.html
Happy days for us, too, as we've mostly been worried sick he'd sign for us.
No, trust us, we dont want him. He's a decent player but, no thanks.
I do think he'd be a good move for Blues though.
By the way Sheldon, how good are the Haiku on your forums?
Native tribesman from Haikiland.
Do me a favour lads,if keane come to villa you would being doing cartwheels and saying hes better than what we got....so cut the bullshit im to long in the tooth.....
Perhaps he means Dave Sheldon, who is similarly unknown to me.
Do me a favour lads,if keane come to villa you would being doing cartwheels and saying hes better than what we got....so cut the bullshit im to long in the tooth.....
The club Fossill is Pires
We dont need another (keane) warming the bench
Sheldon,
Keane is better than what you've got at the moment.
He's still a decent player, but his best is behind him & I think there's better out there.
"The owner would like me in all honesty to go and spend his money and buy somebody who could make the difference, but I don't know where that player is," he said.
Do me a favour lads,if keane come to villa you would being doing cartwheels and saying hes better than what we got....so cut the bullshit im to long in the tooth.....
£8 million?
keane spotted outside the dubliner tonight awaiting medical.....And still able to get up to Merseyside to sit on the bench for Spurs?
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,376632
keane spotted outside the dubliner tonight awaiting medical.....
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,376632
It's an emotional evening for everyone, but cut it out please.keane spotted outside the dubliner tonight awaiting medical.....
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,376632
Go write on your own shit site you prick.........
Then maybe Sheldon also needs to cut it out with his snidey comments? He's only provoking angry reactions, and why is that? Coming on here after we've lost, spouting shite how we'd be ''doing cartwheels if we signed Robbie Keane'' and magicially turning up after it's going bad for us and good for them. He's a troll, a wind-up merchant... whatever you want to call it.It's an emotional evening for everyone, but cut it out please.keane spotted outside the dubliner tonight awaiting medical.....
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,376632
Go write on your own shit site you prick.........
They were all posted before the match. It's not his fault we were rubbish.Then maybe Sheldon also needs to cut it out with his snidey comments? He's only provoking angry reactions, and why is that? Coming on here after we've lost, spouting shite how we'd be ''doing cartwheels if we signed Robbie Keane'' and magicially turning up after it's going bad for us and good for them. He's a troll, a wind-up merchant... whatever you want to call it.It's an emotional evening for everyone, but cut it out please.keane spotted outside the dubliner tonight awaiting medical.....
http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,376632
Go write on your own shit site you prick.........
If signed in time, I'd say he'll be nailed on to score for them against us.
Depends how confident we all are that we'll avoid getting dragged into the relegation mire this year.If very, I'd say avoid. We can do better and so on.
If we are likely to be involved though, I'd rather have him here than scoring goals for the B-lose, Wolves, West Ham or any of the other perennial strugglers we might be fighting it out with.
I wonder what would happen if I went on KRO or that lot forums and was not going against the site rules but just popping into random discussions about Villa... just being a Villa fan would be enough for them to give me all sorts of abuse.I expect that they would be idiots and either insult you, ban you or both.
Sidwell has joined Wolves on loan say Daily Mail
Sidwell has joined Wolves on loan say Daily Mail
Sidwell has joined Wolves on loan say Daily Mail
Why are we loaning players to our relegation rivals?
Walker looks done by all accounts. Pleased to have an attacking right back in to be honest, as it will give us a better attacking dimension at home.Ye agree with you. Makoun straight in with Bentley (who will be fresh and hungry) Along with Horauo (Lyon) and sure that would keep us up ......
The thing is it is clear Houllier wants central midfield men, Forfana, Romeu and Makoun all targeted but the 2 former now both have injury issues. Makoun would be most useful though now, knows Houllier, knows the way he likes to play and would give us steel in the middle.
I am going to say something a bit mad now though. I would get Bentley in to play centre midfield at home alongside him. He is creative, hard working and can get goals from the centre of the park, or at least he did at Blackburn. We need spark in there.
Then finally a striker. We have been linked with Bothroyd, and I can see why as he might do the job Emile is doing for a very small fee. If there is better out there get it, but we need a few in reality to bump up the numbers.
Makoun would be most useful though now, knows Houllier, knows the way he likes to playI've never seen the reasons for this link.
Along with Horauo (Lyon) and sure that would keep us up ......Plays for Paris St Germain. I think he'd do well for us, but if we don't see our long-term future with Houllier, do we really want to be spending £15m on his choice of striker? I'm not so sure.
Makoun would be most useful though now, knows Houllier, knows the way he likes to playI've never seen the reasons for this link.
Houllier left Lyon the season before Makoun was signed and as far as I know has never managed him.Along with Horauo (Lyon) and sure that would keep us up ......Plays for Paris St Germain. I think he'd do well for us, but if we don't see our long-term future with Houllier, do we really want to be spending £15m on his choice of striker? I'm not so sure.
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Ye Paris St Germain. Thank you. But if he is going to back him this is what he has to do .........
Makoun would be most useful though now, knows Houllier, knows the way he likes to playI've never seen the reasons for this link.
Houllier left Lyon the season before Makoun was signed and as far as I know has never managed him.Along with Horauo (Lyon) and sure that would keep us up ......Plays for Paris St Germain. I think he'd do well for us, but if we don't see our long-term future with Houllier, do we really want to be spending £15m on his choice of striker? I'm not so sure.
And as an addendum, I would have thought that the more obvious link to make would be Kim Kallstrom.Makoun would be most useful though now, knows Houllier, knows the way he likes to playI've never seen the reasons for this link.
Houllier left Lyon the season before Makoun was signed and as far as I know has never managed him.
Was not aware Dave apologies for the ignorance, but the link appears quite strong and he is a good player from what I have seen in the Champions league. The centre of midfield and lack of forward options is what will get us relegated if it is not sorted.Oh, I agree completely that he'd be a good signing. Just not sure why he's always been one of the first names linked.
Alan Nixon's latest, from Tomorrow's Mirror:
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Blackburn-swap-Samba-for-Aston-Villa-defender-Collins-bring-back-Manchester-City-striker-Santa-Cruz-bid-for-Blackpool-playmaker-Adam-Villa-may-move-for-Spurs-defender-Walker-but-not-Chelsea-forward-Sturridge-article664929.html
Yeah, Walker and Naughton looked the business at Sheffield. Surprised we weren't in for either under the previous manager then.Attacking full backs were never really his bag though, were they? :)
Yeah, Walker and Naughton looked the business at Sheffield. Surprised we weren't in for either under the previous manager then.Attacking full backs were never really his bag though, were they? :)
Sturridge has not kicked on though from what I have seen of him. Samba for Collins and a bit of cash would be fine by me. I love Collins as a player at times, but he looks so shaky and I think strikers have worked out that if they stick really tight to him he gets himself into trouble a lot of the time.
Yeah, Walker and Naughton looked the business at Sheffield. Surprised we weren't in for either under the previous manager then.Attacking full backs were never really his bag though, were they? :)
Building a squad of balance was not in his remit either, if it were we would be well out of the mess we are now, no matter who is in charge. For the money he spend, we are shit through the spine of the side.
Again TV, I would take Bendtner in a heartbeat.
Collins was probably the only player who showed real passion last night. Heading out and saving a shot off the line. Would be a terrible mistake. Do not rate Samba that highly .........
Collins has been awful lately.Think quite a few players fall into that category. But generally he does look like he cares and is willing to put the work in .......
Whatever we're going to do, whatever we're talking to other clubs about in the transfer market, we absolutely must make the deals happen as soon as we can if the manager is staying.Exactly what i said last night. Basically back him with the players he wants now. Or sack him and we basically miss the window and i think that would definitely put us down regardless of any manager who replaces him ....
If he stays and we don't back him and make the deals happen, we're dead in the water.
The signs aren't good, Huddersfield / Spurs reserves & 28 year olds on loan from Disney League
We need the midfield sorted before anything else, no creativity at all. It was curious how much more dangerous we looked when Dunne started throwing his weight around in the forward line.
We need the midfield sorted before anything else, no creativity at all. It was curious how much more dangerous we looked when Dunne started throwing his weight around in the forward line.
Letting Carlos go would be insane.
Letting Carlos go would be insane.
I do agree with you given this situation, though I am no great fan of his. I think he is hugely over-rated to be honest and more part of the problem than we realise...if that makes sense! Which I know it probably doesn't
He's comfortably our best defender. There are about eight players who we should be looking to replace before we start looking at Cuellar.Letting Carlos go would be insane.
I do agree with you given this situation, though I am no great fan of his. I think he is hugely over-rated to be honest and more part of the problem than we realise...if that makes sense! Which I know it probably doesn't
He's comfortably our best defender. There are about eight players who we should be looking to replace before we start looking at Cuellar.Letting Carlos go would be insane.
I do agree with you given this situation, though I am no great fan of his. I think he is hugely over-rated to be honest and more part of the problem than we realise...if that makes sense! Which I know it probably doesn't
First half last night, Carlos looked like a marauding winger, he was constantly popping up near their corner flag.
Second half, he looked well shaky.
He's a quality player, though, and selling him would be the mark of a manager with a death wish.
Steve Sidwell joins Wolves on loan
Thursday 6th January 2011, 11:00AM GMT.
Steve Sidwell joins Wolves on loan
Wolves today sealed their first signing of the transfer window with the arrival of Steve Sidwell on loan – and he could be joined by Villa team-mate Carlos Cuellar.
Sidwell did a U-turn after West Ham dragged their feet over the finances as they try to complete as many as 15 deals this month.
Instead, after passing a medical with the Hammers, the 28-year-old midfielder was at Molineux for last night’s 1-0 win over his former club Chelsea to sign until the end of the season, when his contract runs out.
Wolves had already agreed to pay his £40,000-a-week wages and a loan fee of around £250,000, before West Ham gave the man for whom Villa paid £5million the chance to move closer to his London home.
But with the Hammers dallying, Sidwell decided to sign for Wolves after all and watched the game from the directors’ box with captain Karl Henry and Eric Walters, who is agent to both players.
The former Reading star will now be reunited with some familiar faces from his Royals days after already ‘sounding out’ Marcus Hahnemann, Stephen Hunt and Kevin Doyle.
But, before the deal was confirmed, manager Mick McCarthy was remaining tight-lipped.
He said: “I haven’t spoken to him, so there’s nothing much I can say. A fee had been agreed with the clubs beforehand. His family were closer to West Ham and I had no gripe with that at all.
“But if he’s available and we can agree a fee and terms I’d take him in a heartbeat.”
Told Sidwell was at Molineux, McCarthy joked: “He’s a Wolves fan – didn’t you know?”
Cuellar is the third Villa centre-back Wolves have targeted this month.
But they have been blocked from signing Richard Dunne – at least for this month – because he is back in Villa’s team.
They have also cooled on Curtis Davies after an enquiry, because of concerns over his reliability and the fee.
With McCarthy having targeted Premier League experience and someone right-sided, 29-year-old Cuellar, a £7.8million signing from Glasgow Rangers in August 2008, is seen as a good fit.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/wolverhampton-wanderers-fc/2011/01/06/steve-sidwell-joins-wolves-on-loan/
First half last night, Carlos looked like a marauding winger, he was constantly popping up near their corner flag.
Second half, he looked well shaky.
Welcome to Kyle, it's been on the OS for a while.
i hope so, he was the brains behind houllier before he turned shit...
*Could be a lot of bollocks*
Reading RAWK they are saying that Phil Thompson has asked to leave Sky Sports?!? Couple of people have said it...If it's true wonder if it has anything to do with us?
*Could be a lot of bollocks*
Reading RAWK they are saying that Phil Thompson has asked to leave Sky Sports?!? Couple of people have said it...If it's true wonder if it has anything to do with us?
*Could be a lot of bollocks*
Reading RAWK they are saying that Phil Thompson has asked to leave Sky Sports?!? Couple of people have said it...If it's true wonder if it has anything to do with us?
Small Heath are about to sign Bentley too. Have we actually resorted to training spurs youngsters!?
To be fair MoN would probably be wanting to pay £10m for Bentley now - a player at the club he supports and still can't get in the team or on the bench. Would we really need a player like that in our position???Just imagine, Ashley, Downing, McGready and Bentley with Albrighton out on loan at Bournemouth.
*Could be a lot of bollocks*
Reading RAWK they are saying that Phil Thompson has asked to leave Sky Sports?!? Couple of people have said it...If it's true wonder if it has anything to do with us?
Fulham have come in for Sidwell now.....
If phil Thompson comes here it will galvanise things and houllier will regain a grip- if thommo arrives we will not only stay up but finish top 10 - please let him come here and not anfield!
god, if people think GH is too pro-bindipper, they'll gonna love bignose.
Small Heath are about to sign Bentley too. Have we actually resorted to training spurs youngsters!?
I wouldn't mind Bentley to be honest.
Fulham have come in for Sidwell now.....
That's good news then, always good to weaken your immediate rivals.
Mcallister was Houlliers third effort to get a coach, that in itself didn't bode well.
I wouldn't mind Bentley to be honest.
90k a week for Wayne Bridge?
Crikey
Yeah we're paying high wages, but who gives a f*ck if theres no fee and its until the end of the seasonI would if he's messing up our defence as he undoubtedly would.
Bridge wouldn't really be any improvement on Warnock at all. Neither has any positional sense and seems to have much of a brain anymore.
Bridge at over twice the wages of Warnock? It's definitely a no from me.
Bridge on his day is a fantastic left back
He'll be playing for his future and to secure a move elsewhere
Yeah we're paying high wages, but who gives a f*ck if theres no fee and its until the end of the season
If he contributes to getting us out of the shit then its fantastic
The Warnock who started last season for us was in another league to Bridge. The Warnock who has been bumbling around out of position for most of this season giving away stupid free kicks is pretty much what we would get from Bridge. If we were dumb enough to sign him.Bridge wouldn't really be any improvement on Warnock at all. Neither has any positional sense and seems to have much of a brain anymore.
Bridge at over twice the wages of Warnock? It's definitely a no from me.
IMO I think you'd have a point if we were watching the Warnock who played for Blackburn
Bridge on his day is a fantastic left back
He'll be playing for his future and to secure a move elsewhere
Yeah we're paying high wages, but who gives a f*ck if theres no fee and its until the end of the season
If he contributes to getting us out of the shit then its fantastic
Bridge offers nothing special another Sidwell type signing for me. Rubbish
maybe warnock swap for Samba ;-@
Bridge has been gash for Citeh, but he played well in that game against Chelsea where he refused to shake Terry's hand.
So if he's motivated he's got the quality.
If he'd be motivated here or not I don't know. He knows he wont get the contract he's on at Citeh here so I doubt he would be playing for a move here.
Bridge has been gash for Citeh, but he played well in that game against Chelsea where he refused to shake Terry's hand.
So if he's motivated he's got the quality.
If he'd be motivated here or not I don't know. He knows he wont get the contract he's on at Citeh here so I doubt he would be playing for a move here.
So, with our wage bill still being too high, the answer is to pay Wayne Bridge £90K a week?
What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him.Short of selling Sidwell to Wolves and then buying him straight back for double the fee, I can't really think of a worse deal.
What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him.Short of selling Sidwell to Wolves and then buying him straight back for double the fee, I can't really think of a worse deal.
Paying Wayne Bridge £1.5m for four months 'work' would comfortably sit with any of those.What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him.Short of selling Sidwell to Wolves and then buying him straight back for double the fee, I can't really think of a worse deal.
Beye, Warnock, Sidwell, Harewood on 3-5 year deals?
What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him. We need a left back, we've got less than a month to sort one and let's face it, we are not gonna be signing any top class left backs for a fortune...
If indeed he comes here
So, with our wage bill still being too high, the answer is to pay Wayne Bridge £90K a week?
What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him. We need a left back, we've got less than a month to sort one and let's face it, we are not gonna be signing any top class left backs for a fortune...
If indeed he comes here
Because it makes a mockery of everything the board have been saying the last year or so, i.e. crap players on high wages is a no-no. As i said above we could have paid milner 100k, and saved Ireland's 80k wages and fee. how would our wage bill be any higher?
One thing is for sure we will not be signing any English/British players in Jan.
i would have thought a striker was a priority. Read a few reports saying we had 15m to spend which is what i would hope would be available if a few of the deadwood could be jettisoned, but i'm starting to get worried there's nowt there. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised.As I said on another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if it were available but the board aren't too keen on breaking out transfer record for Houllier's choice of striker when he might not be here in six months.
What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him. We need a left back, we've got less than a month to sort one and let's face it, we are not gonna be signing any top class left backs for a fortune...
If indeed he comes here
Because it makes a mockery of everything the board have been saying the last year or so, i.e. crap players on high wages is a no-no. As i said above we could have paid milner 100k, and saved Ireland's 80k wages and fee. how would our wage bill be any higher?
Yea but as I said it's not like he's on a long term contract....I'm not saying it's a great deal but needs must right now. Just can't see what all the fuss is about myself. Hey ho...
i would have thought a striker was a priority. Read a few reports saying we had 15m to spend which is what i would hope would be available if a few of the deadwood could be jettisoned, but i'm starting to get worried there's nowt there. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised.As I said on another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if it were available but the board aren't too keen on breaking out transfer record for Houllier's choice of striker when he might not be here in six months.
I would understand it perfectly if we stuck to a few loans in this window rather than threw large amounts of money around.
Edit - as long as none of those loans are Wayne sodding Bridge.
What we paying ? Possibly about £1.5(ish) million for him until the end of the season?....given the madness of prem players transfer fees that's not a bad deal for him. We need a left back, we've got less than a month to sort one and let's face it, we are not gonna be signing any top class left backs for a fortune...
If indeed he comes here
Because it makes a mockery of everything the board have been saying the last year or so, i.e. crap players on high wages is a no-no. As i said above we could have paid milner 100k, and saved Ireland's 80k wages and fee. how would our wage bill be any higher?
Yea but as I said it's not like he's on a long term contract....I'm not saying it's a great deal but needs must right now. Just can't see what all the fuss is about myself. Hey ho...
We still have to score to win. That has been a major problem for me!
Not long term you can't.i would have thought a striker was a priority. Read a few reports saying we had 15m to spend which is what i would hope would be available if a few of the deadwood could be jettisoned, but i'm starting to get worried there's nowt there. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised.As I said on another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if it were available but the board aren't too keen on breaking out transfer record for Houllier's choice of striker when he might not be here in six months.
I would understand it perfectly if we stuck to a few loans in this window rather than threw large amounts of money around.
Edit - as long as none of those loans are Wayne sodding Bridge.
we need a striker. either they back his judgement with money or sack him. you can't run a football club hedging your bets
maybe so but if we go down because we can't put the ball in the net, i'll be complaining moreSo we get in a loan until the end of the season to get us the half a dozen goals we need to keep us up.
maybe so but if we go down because we can't put the ball in the net, i'll be complaining moreSo we get in a loan until the end of the season to get us the half a dozen goals we need to keep us up.
Plenty of money for Houllier's replacement to spend in the summer.
So, with our wage bill still being too high, the answer is to pay Wayne Bridge £90K a week?
What's the delay with villa getting in a striker. They always want to buy RB/LB/CB/DM players, never CM/ACM/ST.
Jarvis or Adams anyone. Adams was fantastic the other night and he's younger than Young?
We're only allowed two premier league loans and those might be taken up with Walker and Bridge.
Narrows the field even more.
We're only allowed two premier league loans and those might be taken up with Walker and Bridge.I'm still fairly optimistic that the Bridge stuff is made up. It can't really be true.
Narrows the field even more.
We already have a top class striker in CarewI agree that we shouldn't sell him to a relegation rival,but he's been a carthorse for the past 12 months.
Faulkner / Lerner need to get him playing for us again
Selling him to Albion would be a disgrace
We already have a top class striker in Carew
Faulkner / Lerner need to get him playing for us again
Selling him to Albion would be a disgrace
We already have a top class striker in CarewI agree that we shouldn't sell him to a relegation rival,but he's been a carthorse for the past 12 months.
Faulkner / Lerner need to get him playing for us again
Selling him to Albion would be a disgrace
i would have thought a striker was a priority. Read a few reports saying we had 15m to spend which is what i would hope would be available if a few of the deadwood could be jettisoned, but i'm starting to get worried there's nowt there. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised.As I said on another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if it were available but the board aren't too keen on breaking out transfer record for Houllier's choice of striker when he might not be here in six months.
I would understand it perfectly if we stuck to a few loans in this window rather than threw large amounts of money around.
Edit - as long as none of those loans are Wayne sodding Bridge.
we need a striker. either they back his judgement with money or sack him. you can't run a football club hedging your bets
Micah Richards would be awesome and, dare I say it, gettable. Having said that, I'm weary of any player we sign from Citeh.
i would have thought a striker was a priority. Read a few reports saying we had 15m to spend which is what i would hope would be available if a few of the deadwood could be jettisoned, but i'm starting to get worried there's nowt there. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised.As I said on another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if it were available but the board aren't too keen on breaking out transfer record for Houllier's choice of striker when he might not be here in six months.
I would understand it perfectly if we stuck to a few loans in this window rather than threw large amounts of money around.
Edit - as long as none of those loans are Wayne sodding Bridge.
we need a striker. either they back his judgement with money or sack him. you can't run a football club hedging your bets
Completely agree.
It's s*** or get off the pot.
We need more attacking options, be it a striker, a winger, or an attacking midfielder.
I know a lot of people dont like him and i think it is more of about his perceived personality than footballing ability, but if we could get David Bentley playing like he was at Blackburn, I think it would be a great signing. He's never really got the opportunity under Redknapp at Spurs and a couple of years ago he was Englands new golden boy.
i would have thought a striker was a priority. Read a few reports saying we had 15m to spend which is what i would hope would be available if a few of the deadwood could be jettisoned, but i'm starting to get worried there's nowt there. Hopefully i'll be pleasantly surprised.As I said on another thread, I wouldn't be surprised if it were available but the board aren't too keen on breaking out transfer record for Houllier's choice of striker when he might not be here in six months.
I would understand it perfectly if we stuck to a few loans in this window rather than threw large amounts of money around.
Edit - as long as none of those loans are Wayne sodding Bridge.
we need a striker. either they back his judgement with money or sack him. you can't run a football club hedging your bets
Completely agree.
It's s*** or get off the pot.
We need more attacking options, be it a striker, a winger, or an attacking midfielder.
I know a lot of people dont like him and i think it is more of about his perceived personality than footballing ability, but if we could get David Bentley playing like he was at Blackburn, I think it would be a great signing. He's never really got the opportunity under Redknapp at Spurs and a couple of years ago he was Englands new golden boy.
I agree entirely with the shit or get off the pot point.
I disagree re Bentley, though. The last thing we need now is another wide player. What would be the point in that when we have much bigger priorities?
Dont need any wingers, need a midfield player who has the vista and determination. A fabregas type alongside reo/bannan/delph.
It's really hard to get excited by transfer news because even if we bring in good players, they may turn into bad players under Houllier.That's exactly what I think. The manager is too egotistical, the players don't like him and it was the wrong appointment. The mood around the place is a dead give away.
Just look at the Collins - Samba proposed deal. Collins was a good player who used to play well, but now he is a good player who is now well below his best.
Samba is playing well but what is to say he will under Houllier?
It's hard to think anything positive will happen whilst the current management are in place.
Warnock has been dropped because he's been shit for 6 months+.
Warnock has been dropped because he's been shit for 6 months+.
Has he even been on the bench though? Hadn't noticed him there v Chelsea, which is odd.
Another senior player GH has fallen out with, perhaps.
I can imagine nothing but trouble with Bentley around.
We've got a decent number of midfield players, we need a can opener in the midfield to make sure Young and Downing see more of the ball.
I can imagine nothing but trouble with Bentley around.
We've got a decent number of midfield players, we need a can opener in the midfield to make sure Young and Downing see more of the ball.
We've got one potentially in Ireland. Mad maybe, but why is he out of the sqaud when Pires is in it? Wouldn't we better trying to make it work with Ireland than continuing to give a spot to Pires, who hobbles round like Norman Wisdom needing a shit.
He was dropped from the squad for poor performance, which is fair & perfectly fine by me.
If Warnock doesn't like it & has kicked up a fuss, then fuck him off.
It's simple, he's not been good enough.
Wonder if Ireland will feature tomorrow?Well didn't GH say not long ago that Ireland had a future with Villa along with Dunne.Good opportunity for some valuable game time.Would be a great confidence builder if he got a goal or 2.He'd be putting himself in the shop window if nothing else but personally I don't want him to go yet especially with the prospect of a new manager coming in
I would swap Ireland for Bentley if thats what both players wanted. At least then we would have a potentially very good player who wants to be here, rather than one that doesn't.
There's no new manager coming in - houllier is here and needs to get new signings in - like it or not he is not going anywhere.
Hope sidwell Carew and Ireland have kicked their last ball for villa , let's get people in who want to play their heart out for the shirt and not take the piss!
I would swap Ireland for Bentley if thats what both players wanted. At least then we would have a potentially very good player who wants to be here, rather than one that doesn't.
Redknapp dropped Bentley because he didn't play for the team and didn't put the effort in. He's made a few brief comebacks, but he's always dropped back because of the same thing. That really fits with the Houllier ethos doesn't it? Why don't we play him and Ireland together? They could have we a game of snap in the centre circle while the rest of the team get on with it!
Ramos signed Bentley
There's no new manager coming in - houllier is here and needs to get new signings in - like it or not he is not going anywhere.
Hope sidwell Carew and Ireland have kicked their last ball for villa , let's get people in who want to play their heart out for the shirt and not take the piss!
There's no new manager coming in - houllier is here and needs to get new signings in - like it or not he is not going anywhere.
Hope sidwell Carew and Ireland have kicked their last ball for villa , let's get people in who want to play their heart out for the shirt and not take the piss!
Agreed
Whether they like / respect / whatever / GH or not, when do the players start accepting some responsibility for performances and results?
Heskey got himself sent off through pure stupidity (although he played ok up to then, apart from his finishing), missed a sitter and another decent chance & probably cost us the game....
Ramos signed Bentley
did he , well done Ramos.. ;-D 16 million wasted for Spurzzzzz
Ramos signed Bentley
did he , well done Ramos.. ;-D 16 million wasted for Spurzzzzz
Redknapp did waste shedloads on Keane, Chimbonda and Cudicini though (Cudicini left Chelsea 'cos Spurs gave him a payrise)
its just that the fat facer got Modric, VDV and Bale..... what we would do for those 3Who were signed by Ramos and Jol respectively.
GH has confirmed we have been in 'dialogue' with citey over bridge loan dealOh god.
*facepalm*
its just that the fat facer got Modric, VDV and Bale..... what we would do for those 3Who were signed by Ramos and Jol respectively.
Or to be more accurate, signed by Comolli. As was Bentley.
GH has confirmed we have been in 'dialogue' with citey over bridge loan dealany links ??
*facepalm*
GH has confirmed we have been in 'dialogue' with citey over bridge loan deal
*facepalm*
Can't be any worse than WarnockBet you he can.
I'm a little concerned we only seem to be looking at loans, but I'll wait until the end of the window.
Two from Premier League clubs.I'm a little concerned we only seem to be looking at loans, but I'll wait until the end of the window.
didnt someone say we can only have 2
I'm a little concerned we only seem to be looking at loans, but I'll wait until the end of the window.
didnt someone say we can only have 2
GH has confirmed we have been in 'dialogue' with citey over bridge loan dealany links ??
*facepalm*
GH has confirmed we have been in 'dialogue' with citey over bridge loan dealany links ??
*facepalm*
Just been confirmed on SSN by that bug eyed git, Andy Burton. Plus GH has confirmed Carew in talks with West Brom...
I worry we may regret letting them have Carew
I worry we may regret letting them have Carew
I worry we may regret letting them have Carew
Unbelievable. I just despair. Only Villa would sell players to relegation rivals. He'll look forward to the game at The Hawthorns.
I'm no fan of Carew's attitude but loaning him out to a relegation rival would be asking for trouble.The main reason he's not performing here is cos he doesn't get on with Houllier.He'll be pinging them in at the Hawthorns.I honestly think we've got a death wish.
I'm no fan of Carew's attitude but loaning him out to a relegation rival would be asking for trouble.The main reason he's not performing here is cos he doesn't get on with Houllier.He'll be pinging them in at the Hawthorns.I honestly think we've got a death wish.
Will you be saying that if Albion stay up and we get relegated ?I'm no fan of Carew's attitude but loaning him out to a relegation rival would be asking for trouble.The main reason he's not performing here is cos he doesn't get on with Houllier.He'll be pinging them in at the Hawthorns.I honestly think we've got a death wish.
What about the beginning of this season and the end of last which he spent walking around the pitch clapping his hands.
Waste of space, I don't care where he goes.
Will you be saying that if Albion stay up and we get relegated ?
Also, it MUST mean we are signing at least 1, if not 2 strikers imminently, cause if not, then I will turn from givning GH time to saying it is not on and getting rid, selling a striker who scores when in the mood is fine, but not replacing him when we are already desperately short up front is suicidal.
Yes I would. but I think it's more likely he'll have a new lease of life given that they have a creative midfieldWill you be saying that if Albion stay up and we get relegated ?
Will I be saying he's a waste of space? Yes.
I think Albion will stay up anyway, I don't think Carew lumbering around for them will make much difference.
If West Brom are relegated and we stay up will you come out and say it was the correct decision?
Also, it MUST mean we are signing at least 1, if not 2 strikers imminently, cause if not, then I will turn from givning GH time to saying it is not on and getting rid, selling a striker who scores when in the mood is fine, but not replacing him when we are already desperately short up front is suicidal.
I agree fully Ozzjim. I have resisted giving GH a hard time to date but if we are going to rely for the next few weeks on an out of form and injury prone (this season) forward, a rookie reserve and an MLS loanee, then I'm afraid I would have to agree that he has totally lost the plot
I might even wonder if he is starting to do it deliberately...
Also, it MUST mean we are signing at least 1, if not 2 strikers imminently, cause if not, then I will turn from givning GH time to saying it is not on and getting rid, selling a striker who scores when in the mood is fine, but not replacing him when we are already desperately short up front is suicidal.
I agree fully Ozzjim. I have resisted giving GH a hard time to date but if we are going to rely for the next few weeks on an out of form and injury prone (this season) forward, a rookie reserve and an MLS loanee, then I'm afraid I would have to agree that he has totally lost the plot
I might even wonder if he is starting to do it deliberately...
Also, what's the score with goalkeepers?
Not to a relegation rival. He'll guarantee their survival
I hope we sign Bridge. Simply so we can get the "Villa's Bridge over troubled water" headlines.
Sunderland are in talks to sign muntari on loan and sessegnon!!
Massive facepalm!
I hate football! How can we go bckwards so fast?
Also, what's the score with goalkeepers?
Sunderland are in talks to sign muntari on loan and sessegnon!!
Massive facepalm!
I hate football! How can we go bckwards so fast?
We should seriously be after those 2 players if available.
Sunderland are in talks to sign muntari on loan and sessegnon!!
Massive facepalm!
I hate football! How can we go bckwards so fast?
We should seriously be after those 2 players if available.
Sunderland are in talks to sign muntari on loan and sessegnon!!
Massive facepalm!
I hate football! How can we go bckwards so fast?
We should seriously be after those 2 players if available.
Muntari has looked next to useless on the odd occasions I have seen him this season Paul and what do we really know about this other guy apart from that he seems to possibly be something of a troublemaker?
Not to a relegation rival. He'll guarantee their survival
Also, what's the score with goalkeepers?
According to the SSN website we have been talking to the Dortmund keeper Roman Weidenfeller
90k a week for Bridge, dear oh dear
Striker is priority not a has been left back on silly money
I hope we sign Bridge. Simply so we can get the "Villa's Bridge over troubled water" headlines.
What about "Bridge over troubles - Walker"?
Bridge puts past behind him says new Villa youngster.
Also, what's the score with goalkeepers?
According to the SSN website we have been talking to the Dortmund keeper Roman Weidenfeller
No but by all accounts he's a bit of a weird fella.
Also, what's the score with goalkeepers?
According to the SSN website we have been talking to the Dortmund keeper Roman Weidenfeller
He's not fat is he?
Worrying trend to sign other club's third choice players on loan. Did MON in fact leave not because Randy reduced the budget, but rather offered no budget?!
Transfer money was and still is there.Worrying trend to sign other club's third choice players on loan. Did MON in fact leave not because Randy reduced the budget, but rather offered no budget?!
No.
Transfer money was and still is there.Worrying trend to sign other club's third choice players on loan. Did MON in fact leave not because Randy reduced the budget, but rather offered no budget?!
No.
It's the wage bill that's the problem.
Transfer money was and still is there.Worrying trend to sign other club's third choice players on loan. Did MON in fact leave not because Randy reduced the budget, but rather offered no budget?!
No.
It's the wage bill that's the problem.
How do you know that?
Is the Wayne bridge rumour reliable or just idle gossip?
Is the Wayne bridge rumour reliable or just idle gossip?Houllier confirmed that enquiries had been made.
Houllier said: “There has been dialogue with Man City over Wayne Bridge, but we will have to see.”
Want two signings this weekend. Striker and solid mid. Then with Walker and possible new left back go to the "scum" and give them a serious kicking. That would bring some major spirit back to the fans and AVFC .........
I'll give Houllier this, at least he looks like he won't be leaving it until the afternoon/evening of the 31st Jan
Want two signings this weekend. Striker and solid mid. Then with Walker and possible new left back go to the "scum" and give them a serious kicking. That would bring some major spirit back to the fans and AVFC .........
It would be brilliant if you are right, but integrating 4 new players into a team rarely happens instantly.
Justed watched Kyle walker interview. (good move) just what we need young, in form and hungry. PS he seriously looks like a young version of Gabby ???Poor sod.
Transfer money was and still is there.Worrying trend to sign other club's third choice players on loan. Did MON in fact leave not because Randy reduced the budget, but rather offered no budget?!
No.
It's the wage bill that's the problem.
Sky breaking news - rangers accept blues bid for kenny miller- looks like keane deal is off then?Please, please, please, let this happen
Kenny Miller? He is about their only striker isn't he.How low Scottish football has sunk when the likes of Blues and Middlesboro can snap up your best players.
I don't suppose they fancy spending a couple of quid on big John do they?
With the caveat that we have a couple of strikers coming of course.
LMAO. Back in your box Sheldon Nose.Sky breaking news - rangers accept blues bid for kenny miller- looks like keane deal is off then?Please, please, please, let this happen
Sky breaking news - rangers accept blues bid for kenny miller- looks like keane deal is off then?
Want two signings this weekend. Striker and solid mid. Then with Walker and possible new left back go to the "scum" and give them a serious kicking. That would bring some major spirit back to the fans and AVFC .........
It would be brilliant if you are right, but integrating 4 new players into a team rarely happens instantly.
was it 3 goals he scored for wolves in the premier league over the whole season of 38 games?
im here,£700 grand is a snip cant do any worse can we,plus i imagine they will be one more striker coming our way......plus tatts saying on twitter bentley is coming on loan....might be wrong,might be wright....
im here,£700 grand is a snip cant do any worse can we,plus i imagine they will be one more striker coming our way......plus tatts saying on twitter bentley is coming on loan....might be wrong,might be wright....Alan, or Ian?
tatts saying on twitter bentley is coming on loan...
im here,£700 grand is a snip cant do any worse can we,plus i imagine they will be one more striker coming our way......plus tatts saying on twitter bentley is coming on loan....might be wrong,might be wright....
I laughed out loud.im here,£700 grand is a snip cant do any worse can we,plus i imagine they will be one more striker coming our way......plus tatts saying on twitter bentley is coming on loan....might be wrong,might be wright....
Quite, you certainly couldn't do any worse.
I'm glad that GH's first attention seems to be the full-back situation. I really believe that it has cost us a lot of points this season, because either we play Warnock and Young and lose defensive solidity, or we play the centre-backs and lose a lot going forward. With either combination they give the ball away too much and invite pressure on us anyway, so we desperately need a change in this department.
When Bentley joined Spurs he said it was a dream come true and it was his boyhood club, made up etc etc.
If he can't perform consistently for them, he won't for anyone.
In all honesty sheldon , you must be privately devastated to go from thinking you had keane to finding out it's going to kenny miller instead- what a huge letdown for you!devastated? not one bit chap.....bentley im over the moon,as for miller i will always back a player in a blues shirt,ask me about miller in may...
I bet Blues fans will be doing cartwheels after they've signed Kenny Miller.some will moan some wont.....ask me about miller in may then i will tell you what i think....how can i slag him when he aint pulled a shirt on yet....anyway onwards and upwards.... ;)
how can i slag him when he aint pulled a shirt on yet....
Won't be sorry to see Carew go. Couldn't run, jump or direct a header... and rarely in the box when we needed him. Ok - I do concede that he did provide some good goals and moments for us - but then I think Frank Bruno would have if he'd been centre-forward.
HOWEVER, having said that, on the rare occasions we have played balls into Carew's feet he has looked a better player, and Di Matteo will get Albion doing more of that. MON's tactics of launching everything to his head just showed up all his weaknesses.
Welcome and good luck to Kyle Walker. Looked useful on tv for QPR the other week, but I am concerned that Licah seems to have been dumped after a couple of poor shows against the better teams. Hopefully it's just a case of not destroying his confidence.
Bridge? Not convinced, and certainly not at £90k a week (will we still have to pay him the week we play Citeh when he can't play?). Warnock has had a nightmare season, but this time last season he was streets ahead of Bridge - who hasn't played much since.
His headed goals have come when the ball has glanced his head and ended up going goalwards. He doesn't very often direct the ball with his head... the ball generally just hits his head and goes off in any random direction! His best goals have been shots, but even they're usually deflected.Won't be sorry to see Carew go. Couldn't run, jump or direct a header... and rarely in the box when we needed him. Ok - I do concede that he did provide some good goals and moments for us - but then I think Frank Bruno would have if he'd been centre-forward.
HOWEVER, having said that, on the rare occasions we have played balls into Carew's feet he has looked a better player, and Di Matteo will get Albion doing more of that. MON's tactics of launching everything to his head just showed up all his weaknesses.
Welcome and good luck to Kyle Walker. Looked useful on tv for QPR the other week, but I am concerned that Licah seems to have been dumped after a couple of poor shows against the better teams. Hopefully it's just a case of not destroying his confidence.
Bridge? Not convinced, and certainly not at £90k a week (will we still have to pay him the week we play Citeh when he can't play?). Warnock has had a nightmare season, but this time last season he was streets ahead of Bridge - who hasn't played much since.
What on earth are you talking about? Most of Carew's goals have come from his head?
His headed goals have come when the ball has glanced his head and ended up going goalwards. He doesn't very often direct the ball with his head... the ball generally just hits his head and goes off in any random direction! His best goals have been shots, but even they're usually deflected.Won't be sorry to see Carew go. Couldn't run, jump or direct a header... and rarely in the box when we needed him. Ok - I do concede that he did provide some good goals and moments for us - but then I think Frank Bruno would have if he'd been centre-forward.
HOWEVER, having said that, on the rare occasions we have played balls into Carew's feet he has looked a better player, and Di Matteo will get Albion doing more of that. MON's tactics of launching everything to his head just showed up all his weaknesses.
Welcome and good luck to Kyle Walker. Looked useful on tv for QPR the other week, but I am concerned that Licah seems to have been dumped after a couple of poor shows against the better teams. Hopefully it's just a case of not destroying his confidence.
Bridge? Not convinced, and certainly not at £90k a week (will we still have to pay him the week we play Citeh when he can't play?). Warnock has had a nightmare season, but this time last season he was streets ahead of Bridge - who hasn't played much since.
What on earth are you talking about? Most of Carew's goals have come from his head?
My point about playing to his feet was more about build up play though. If you launch a long ball from the back to Carew in the air, even if he does manage to get up and win the header it's anyone's guess which direction the ball's going to go in. You've more chance of keeping possession with him if you can get the ball to his feet, so if Albion played that way with him he could do something for them.
Unfortunately under MON our attacks often ended once the ball was launched his way in the air... which usually resulted in the opposition winning the header, or picking up the loose ball after it had bounced off the top of Carew's head, or won a free-kick because Carew couldn't jump and ended up fouling.
It better not be true.
It better not be true.
Sidwell gone to Fulham, all done.
It better not be true.
Check Peter Lansley from the Times's twitter.....unfortunately
It better not be true.
Check Peter Lansley from the Times's twitter.....unfortunately
nothing
larf! 3.5m!!??? if thats true we've really done them.
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
Sidwell gone to Fulham, all done.
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
I was advocating signing Bentley a few weeks ago and the lad mentioned the story then, now he's signed for you I think he's shite...
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
I was advocating signing Bentley a few weeks ago and the lad mentioned the story then, now he's signed for you I think he's shite...
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
I was advocating signing Bentley a few weeks ago and the lad mentioned the story then, now he's signed for you I think he's shite...
Just think af all the chances he'll set up for Kenny!!
Don't want to talk out of school butMMM would you have come out with this if bentley was joining villa..mmmm i think not,i will put this down to bitterness....
Was in a club London about 4 weeks back between midnight and 0300 hrs say
bentley was in there too with his sister and some of her mates
He was giving it large about this that and the other, off his face on C**e and being a complete twat
& this was on a school night !!
perfectly suited to SHA
Like the sound of a possible swap of Agger for Ireland. We need positive influence and smaller wages .......
Ye but you have to take into account Woy has completely lost his marbles ......Like the sound of a possible swap of Agger for Ireland. We need positive influence and smaller wages .......
You'd have to be stupid to overvalue ireland so much as a makeweight in a deal for one of your best players.
Lyon "asking too much" for Makoun according to GH, they're after 7m.
High stakes game, this.
Sidwell gone to Fulham, all done.
http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-sport/fulham-fc/2011/01/07/mark-hughes-confirms-steve-sidwell-set-to-sign-for-fulham-82029-27949216/
Are reporting it's £3.5m
Pires mouthing off. There's no smoke without fire though, something badly wrong at villa.
why the fook do players do this
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
Matt Kendrick said in a twat on twit that it will still go through next week re Makoun.
We have already stumped up the 90k for Bridge too, so just a decision of where he wants to go, but complicated by West Ham not being able to register any players until others move.
The squads are resubmitted at the end of January.Matt Kendrick said in a twat on twit that it will still go through next week re Makoun.
We have already stumped up the 90k for Bridge too, so just a decision of where he wants to go, but complicated by West Ham not being able to register any players until others move.
Already got their 25. Think villa on registered 22
why the fook do players do thisI now make that ten or so rehashes of last week's L'Equipe interview.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
why the fook do players do thisI now make that ten or so rehashes of last week's L'Equipe interview.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
Fair point.why the fook do players do thisI now make that ten or so rehashes of last week's L'Equipe interview.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
Although some quotes talk about the atmosphere after the Sunderland game?
why the fook do players do thisI now make that ten or so rehashes of last week's L'Equipe interview.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
Pires not playing because he is shit! In hindsight a mistake taking him on - get rid of the tosser!
I'd be shocked if we do not have £20m to spend this month as that would be the milner money from last year - the least we need is that otherwise the signs would be that randy either cannot or will not back the manager anymore.
If makoun is £7m then get him- relegation would cost us far more than that - pay the cash and get quality players in randy, this is no time to scrimp and save !
How nice it is to come on here in a morning and see us linked with players rather than sitting to the deadline day and seeing little or nothing until the last day.
Have to admit I have not seen enough of Makoun to judge him, but from clips of seen and what I have read he seems to be exactly what we need.
At 27, he is in the prime of his career, he scored the goal to knock Real out of the CL last year (what a goal) and is an experienced international.
Yet GH is saying 7 mill is too much!! Unless his contract is running out at the end of the season, that seems like a pretty decent price to me.
If we lose out on this guy over 1 or 2 mill I think a lot of the fury will be vented at Randy. I mean that's not even half the spare change we have from the Milner deal!
depends where the milner fee has gone. in the transfer fund or paying the deadwood's wages
If there is money to spend it doesn't mean we have to be stupid. Even Man City haggle a bit... they didn't just come in and offer us £30 million for Milner did they? £7 million is a lot for a player who is due to be out of contract and if the board think they can persuade Lyon to drop their price by playing a waiting game then fair enough.
depends where the milner fee has gone. in the transfer fund or paying the deadwood's wages
Not forgetting the £3.5 mil SHA paid for that utter tosser.
In theory, using a calculator,belief in what you read in the newspapers and applying the 'spend what you get in via incoming transfer funds' model - we have around £23m to spend plus the Sky money.
Was the FX PRO money £20m over three years ????
depends where the milner fee has gone. in the transfer fund or paying the deadwood's wages
Not forgetting the £3.5 mil SHA paid for that utter tosser.
In theory, using a calculator,belief in what you read in the newspapers and applying the 'spend what you get in via incoming transfer funds' model - we have around £23m to spend plus the Sky money.
depends where the milner fee has gone. in the transfer fund or paying the deadwood's wages
Not forgetting the £3.5 mil SHA paid for that utter tosser.
In theory, using a calculator,belief in what you read in the newspapers and applying the 'spend what you get in via incoming transfer funds' model - we have around £23m to spend plus the Sky money.
In that case Greg that would mean we wouldn't even have the milner money to spend , not including the sky money or sponsonship money - that would make mons leaving much more understandable and in such case the best we could hope for would be survival in this league.
What about the aims for the top 4 we have been told about as being the boards ambition still? It would be pie in the sky with no money -yes Lerner stumped up the cash and we competed for 4 yrs but if he can't stump up the cash we should be told , rather than being fed ambitions we cannot achieve- I hope you are wrong nasher, as we really need to invest big on players this month!
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
Lyon are after the best deal for Lyon. They are playing hard to get hoping to flush out interest and start an auction. Makoun supposedly wants to come and play in England, I reckon it will happen fairly quickly once the match is out of the way.
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
If there is money to spend it doesn't mean we have to be stupid. Even Man City haggle a bit... they didn't just come in and offer us £30 million for Milner did they? £7 million is a lot for a player who is due to be out of contract and if the board think they can persuade Lyon to drop their price by playing a waiting game then fair enough.
Lyon are after the best deal for Lyon. They are playing hard to get hoping to flush out interest and start an auction. Makoun supposedly wants to come and play in England, I reckon it will happen fairly quickly once the match is out of the way.
I wouldn't wasre your time getting excited about Makoun joining us. The club won't spend any more money - that stopped on 1st September, 2009! Lerner will eventually sell what assets we have a take the money and run! Why do you think MON left??
SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
I think the club will spend again but GH will be a bit different in his approach to bringing players in. Using the loan system this month makes a lot of sense, with full backs needed if we are honest, while there is little risk as if they are good we can sign them, and if not the liability of a 4 year deal is not on the club while the wage bill can't contain it. Also, we need to remember that the new rules with wages and turnover and spend will come in very soon and Villa needed to reduce the wage bill considerably.We may need a left back..........but we have Luke Young, Cuellar, Lichaj and Beye who can all play at right back
With all due respect, your talking absolute crapLyon are after the best deal for Lyon. They are playing hard to get hoping to flush out interest and start an auction. Makoun supposedly wants to come and play in England, I reckon it will happen fairly quickly once the match is out of the way.
I wouldn't wasre your time getting excited about Makoun joining us. The club won't spend any more money - that stopped on 1st September, 2009! Lerner will eventually sell what assets we have a take the money and run! Why do you think MON left??
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
I don't think Makoun is due to be out of contract is he?
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
Lyon are after the best deal for Lyon. They are playing hard to get hoping to flush out interest and start an auction. Makoun supposedly wants to come and play in England, I reckon it will happen fairly quickly once the match is out of the way.
I wouldn't wasre your time getting excited about Makoun joining us. The club won't spend any more money - that stopped on 1st September, 2009! Lerner will eventually sell what assets we have a take the money and run! Why do you think MON left??
I can understand the stick for the manager, but anyone with half a brain can see Lerner has been brilliant for Villa since he came in. They have had to cut their cloth a bit following the mistake of letting the wages get a bit out of control, and are now going down a different long term project to try and change the method but get back to the same, if not better position. It will take time, and faith.
mmmmmmm did u see Wednesdays game ?? when the manager Randy appointed made no sustitutions for over 87 minutes even though we had played with 10 men for over 30 mins, his tactical masterplan is to play our left winger on the right hand side and one of our centre forwards as a left wingerRL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
To be honest, no respect is due. That was just worthless melodramatic tripe.
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
To be honest, no respect is due. That was just worthless melodramatic tripe.
mmmmmmm did u see Wednesdays game ?? when the manager Randy appointed made no sustitutions for over 87 minutes even though we had played with 10 men for over 30 mins, his tactical masterplan is to play our left winger on the right hand side and one of our centre forwards as a left wingerRL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
To be honest, no respect is due. That was just worthless melodramatic tripe.
I would agree Lerner has done great things probably over 80% positive but you have to agree that Lerner has made some pretty big mistakes, ie not appointing a director of football or put some one experienced in football on the board to keep an eye on MON and his xfer dealings, his handling of MON departure, the subsequent sale of Milner that he agreed too and him taking over 5 weeks to draw up a shortlist of managers that were availablemmmmmmm did u see Wednesdays game ?? when the manager Randy appointed made no sustitutions for over 87 minutes even though we had played with 10 men for over 30 mins, his tactical masterplan is to play our left winger on the right hand side and one of our centre forwards as a left wingerRL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
To be honest, no respect is due. That was just worthless melodramatic tripe.
Yes, I was there. So? Give Houllier all the shit you want, he desreves some of it, but Lerner has been nothing but brilliant for this club and all the slagging off he's getting from some idiots is disgraceful.
mmmmmmm did u see Wednesdays game ?? when the manager Randy appointed made no sustitutions for over 87 minutes even though we had played with 10 men for over 30 mins, his tactical masterplan is to play our left winger on the right hand side and one of our centre forwards as a left wingerRL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
To be honest, no respect is due. That was just worthless melodramatic tripe.
Yes, I was there. So? Give Houllier all the shit you want, he desreves some of it, but Lerner has been nothing but brilliant for this club and all the slagging off he's getting from some idiots is disgraceful.
Why are fans so reluctant to criticise Lerner? We're on the slippery slope down to relegation and ultimately the buck stops with him. If this was Ellis he'd have been crucified by now. Especially if he'd bought and sold a player without there being a manager at the club. We haven't signed a player for cash for 17 months. Again, Ellis would be public enemy number one if he had pulled those stunts.
It's about time Lerner got the bit of criticism he deserves.
Why are fans so reluctant to criticise Lerner? We're on the slippery slope down to relegation and ultimately the buck stops with him. If this was Ellis he'd have been crucified by now. Especially if he'd bought and sold a player without there being a manager at the club. We haven't signed a player for cash for 17 months. Again, Ellis would be public enemy number one if he had pulled those stunts.
It's about time Lerner got the bit of criticism he deserves.
I don't think anyone would say it's going swimmingly. I just don't buy all this talk of relegation. I just don't think it will happen. It's a mess and sorting it out isn't going to be easy. There's no fun to be had at the moment but we need to play a long game if we are going to move forward.
mmmmmmm did u see Wednesdays game ?? when the manager Randy appointed made no sustitutions for over 87 minutes even though we had played with 10 men for over 30 mins, his tactical masterplan is to play our left winger on the right hand side and one of our centre forwards as a left wingerRL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
That is, with all due respect, a complete load of Bollocks.
To be honest, no respect is due. That was just worthless melodramatic tripe.
Yes, I was there. So? Give Houllier all the shit you want, he desreves some of it, but Lerner has been nothing but brilliant for this club and all the slagging off he's getting from some idiots is disgraceful.
I don't think anyone would say it's going swimmingly. I just don't buy all this talk of relegation. I just don't think it will happen. It's a mess and sorting it out isn't going to be easy. There's no fun to be had at the moment but we need to play a long game if we are going to move forward.
Everybody makes mistakes. They shouldn't be crucified for them if they've shown nothing but absolute committment to their cause and beyond. Which I believe Lerner has and will continue to do so.
I've seen fans question his loyalty all week, which I think is pretty ordinary to be honest. Dont you think he deserves better?
And now questioning transfer policy. Why not wait and see what we do in this window first, eh?
It's not like he hasn't put his hand in his pocket already.
Everybody makes mistakes. They shouldn't be crucified for them if they've shown nothing but absolute committment to their cause and beyond. Which I believe Lerner has and will continue to do so.
I've seen fans question his loyalty all week, which I think is pretty ordinary to be honest. Dont you think he deserves better?
And now questioning transfer policy. Why not wait and see what we do in this window first, eh?
It's not like he hasn't put his hand in his pocket already.
I don't think anyone can question Randy's loyalty, whatever other criticisms are going round. It is concerning we haven't spent any money on transfers in 18 months, but hopefully by the end of the window that will be sorted.I think clearly they are when making comments of selling the assets and doing a runner and being worse than Doug etc. People are showing they have very short memories and that for all the great work Randy has done, some people will always find a way to have a good moan about you.
Everybody makes mistakes. They shouldn't be crucified for them if they've shown nothing but absolute committment to their cause and beyond. Which I believe Lerner has and will continue to do so.
I've seen fans question his loyalty all week, which I think is pretty ordinary to be honest. Dont you think he deserves better?
And now questioning transfer policy. Why not wait and see what we do in this window first, eh?
It's not like he hasn't put his hand in his pocket already.
Well he hasnt signed anyone for the past 17 months and we are almost a third of the way through Jan already
Everybody makes mistakes. They shouldn't be crucified for them if they've shown nothing but absolute committment to their cause and beyond. Which I believe Lerner has and will continue to do so.
I've seen fans question his loyalty all week, which I think is pretty ordinary to be honest. Dont you think he deserves better?
And now questioning transfer policy. Why not wait and see what we do in this window first, eh?
It's not like he hasn't put his hand in his pocket already.
Well he hasnt signed anyone for the past 17 months and we are almost a third of the way through Jan already
I think its fair to say the Summer was a little bit unusual, wouldn't you agree? And it's more like a quarter of January gone with very little business done elsewhere. The world does not come and go at Aston Villa's call, alas.
If we dont do some substantial business this January, I'll be suprised.
Still you think you have grounds to criticise his spending? I dont.
There are plenty of posts on here saying we are going down blah blah blah. As soon as anyone says I don't think so the old 'too good to go down' cliche is wheeled out and polished. I understand that teams who were expected to stay up have gone down, however any team that gets relegated over a season's results were blatantly not too good to go down.
I think it will be tough, no question about that but I think at the business end of the season we will be well clear. Just my opinion, feel happy to disagree but don't wheel out a bullshit cliche and tell me I am a victim of it
Know we are all a bit angry and concerned but think that is a rational and fair comment. Nice one ...Everybody makes mistakes. They shouldn't be crucified for them if they've shown nothing but absolute committment to their cause and beyond. Which I believe Lerner has and will continue to do so.
I've seen fans question his loyalty all week, which I think is pretty ordinary to be honest. Dont you think he deserves better?
And now questioning transfer policy. Why not wait and see what we do in this window first, eh?
It's not like he hasn't put his hand in his pocket already.
Spot on.
There are plenty of posts on here saying we are going down blah blah blah. As soon as anyone says I don't think so the old 'too good to go down' cliche is wheeled out and polished. I understand that teams who were expected to stay up have gone down, however any team that gets relegated over a season's results were blatantly not too good to go down.
I think it will be tough, no question about that but I think at the business end of the season we will be well clear. Just my opinion, feel happy to disagree but don't wheel out a bullshit cliche and tell me I am a victim of it
There are plenty of posts on here saying we are going down blah blah blah. As soon as anyone says I don't think so the old 'too good to go down' cliche is wheeled out and polished. I understand that teams who were expected to stay up have gone down, however any team that gets relegated over a season's results were blatantly not too good to go down.
I think it will be tough, no question about that but I think at the business end of the season we will be well clear. Just my opinion, feel happy to disagree but don't wheel out a bullshit cliche and tell me I am a victim of it
It's not a bullshit cliche - it's a fact. Just have a long hard look at the Premier League table and our upcoming fixture list
It's not a bullshit cliche - it's a fact.
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Anyone else hear these Dunne to Spurs rumours?
It's only if we lose one of Downing or Albrighton that I'd go out and buy a Lee Chong-Yong
So does it look like Makoun will be signing with us next week hopefully? How much are Lyon asking for him? Now that Super Steve Sidwell has now been sold that means Randy is gonna give the OK to Houllier to sign Makoun.
WE can't ignore the fact that we really do need a striker.
WE can't ignore the fact that we really do need a striker.
100% spot on
Other than Cisse have we been linked with any strikers ?Traore........i think
I really don't hope we miss out on the chance of signing a really good player to better our midfield just because we're going to be really tight regarding Makoun's price. We just sold Sidwell for £3.5 million... fucking hell.
This just in from Cuellar on twitter:
The rumours r about I want to leave the club r not true..I'm very happy in Villa
Bothroyd is a good shoutNo it bloody aint
We need Makoun and a striker before Friday
We are being linked to Mbokani (striker) in the Birmingham Mail:
http://tinyurl.com/32nrgpv.
We are being linked to Mbokani (striker) in the Birmingham Mail:
http://tinyurl.com/32nrgpv.
No no and no
We are being linked to Mbokani (striker) in the Birmingham Mail:
http://tinyurl.com/32nrgpv.
No no and no
I take it he aint great? what are his strengths and weaknesses?
Bothroyd is a good shout
Can't imagine he'd be cheap mind
I'll say one thing, Houllier has signed one player so far and he was fantastic today.
I'll say one thing, Houllier has signed one player so far and he was fantastic today.
Of course, forgot him! But I'll alter my phrase, signed one player in the transfer window!
I thought Pires was woeful <winky thing>
Man U linked with 30mill bid for Ash and Clark!Would take £20m for Ash tommorow. He is becoming less and less effective for us. He was terrible yesterday ........
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
I've read some complete and utter bollocks on the internet for a number of years now, but that line has got to be the biggest of the lot.
RL is steering our club like a rudderless ship. He will not invest any more money into the club. It's about time he stated his intentions and made a statement to the fans instead of this stupid silence. The club is is a worse position than when Doug was here. SHOW SOME LEADERSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE FANS FOR ONCE LERNER!
My thought is there are none so blind as those that cannot see
I remember the days where ash used to beat a man on the wing and put wonderful crosses in for our forwards to convert into the onion bag .........aghast those were the days
ok , ok lol , on a regular basis in the league , yes he did do it yesterday ,well done AshleyI remember the days where ash used to beat a man on the wing and put wonderful crosses in for our forwards to convert into the onion bag .........aghast those were the days
Know what you mean , we haven't seen that since yesterday.
I remember the days where ash used to beat a man on the wing and put wonderful crosses in for our forwards to convert into the onion bag .........aghast those were the days
that's sort of where I was coming from john , I much prefer him on the wing .I remember the days where ash used to beat a man on the wing and put wonderful crosses in for our forwards to convert into the onion bag .........aghast those were the days
In fairness that's a bit hard now with him playing central.
Personally, I think he's better on the wing and that's where I'd play him!
Man U linked with 30mill bid for Ash and Clark!
My thought is there are none so blind as those that cannot seeWhilst you're dead right that people who cannot see are, on the whole, pretty blind, they're not as blind as those who will not see :-)
Man U linked with 30mill bid for Ash and Clark!Would take £20m for Ash tommorow. He is becoming less and less effective for us. He was terrible yesterday ........
lol...ffs mate,he will leave at a drop of a hat if someone pays him more money than what hes getting at the moment plus if a london club comes in hes a goner.... footballers are tossers....Man U linked with 30mill bid for Ash and Clark!Would take £20m for Ash tommorow. He is becoming less and less effective for us. He was terrible yesterday ........
I dont agree with that mate. He let us down by stupidly being sent off, but his play was good in general...we will miss him when he's gone...he works his bollocks off...his attitude is questionable regarding petulance, but I have met him and he loves the Villa, feels we gave him a massive chance and no way will he move from here.
Man U linked with 30mill bid for Ash and Clark!Would take £20m for Ash tommorow. He is becoming less and less effective for us. He was terrible yesterday ........
I dont agree with that mate. He let us down by stupidly being sent off, but his play was good in general...we will miss him when he's gone...he works his bollocks off...his attitude is questionable regarding petulance, but I have met him and he loves the Villa, feels we gave him a massive chance and no way will he move from here.
Sell Young? Do some of our fans actually want us to be relegated??
Selling Young would just compound the sense that we are a selling club. This vicious cycle has to be stopped. When Randy took over I thought that we'd finally have the financial nous to resist people coming in for the Yorkes and Southgates of the club. We've since lost Barry and Milner. How can you progress when you keep having to sell your best players because somebody else can pay better wages. It stinks, it really stinks and I know Man City being bought was a game changer for Randy. Are we doomed always be contenders for 'best of the rest' unless we get bought by some absolutely filthy rich oil tycoon or something?
Is that twenty first football in a nutshell? Instead of every so often producing great teams that can challenge the title, the likes of Villa and Everton will just have to hope they get bought by somebody with enough money to actually buy them the title.
Sorry mods I know this is the wrong place for a rant.
Selling Young would just compound the sense that we are a selling club. This vicious cycle has to be stopped. When Randy took over I thought that we'd finally have the financial nous to resist people coming in for the Yorkes and Southgates of the club. We've since lost Barry and Milner. How can you progress when you keep having to sell your best players because somebody else can pay better wages. It stinks, it really stinks and I know Man City being bought was a game changer for Randy. Are we doomed always be contenders for 'best of the rest' unless we get bought by some absolutely filthy rich oil tycoon or something?
Is that twenty first football in a nutshell? Instead of every so often producing great teams that can challenge the title, the likes of Villa and Everton will just have to hope they get bought by somebody with enough money to actually buy them the title.
Sorry mods I know this is the wrong place for a rant.
I would also take £20m for Young.
Selling Young would just compound the sense that we are a selling club. This vicious cycle has to be stopped. When Randy took over I thought that we'd finally have the financial nous to resist people coming in for the Yorkes and Southgates of the club. We've since lost Barry and Milner. How can you progress when you keep having to sell your best players because somebody else can pay better wages. It stinks, it really stinks and I know Man City being bought was a game changer for Randy. Are we doomed always be contenders for 'best of the rest' unless we get bought by some absolutely filthy rich oil tycoon or something?
Is that twenty first football in a nutshell? Instead of every so often producing great teams that can challenge the title, the likes of Villa and Everton will just have to hope they get bought by somebody with enough money to actually buy them the title.
Sorry mods I know this is the wrong place for a rant.
The problem is if he's not going to sign a new contract he needs to be sold now, otherwise he becomes worthless. £20m now is more useful in the long term, rather than half a season out of a player who is becoming more ineffective as the weeks progress.
Selling Young would just compound the sense that we are a selling club. This vicious cycle has to be stopped. When Randy took over I thought that we'd finally have the financial nous to resist people coming in for the Yorkes and Southgates of the club. We've since lost Barry and Milner. How can you progress when you keep having to sell your best players because somebody else can pay better wages. It stinks, it really stinks and I know Man City being bought was a game changer for Randy. Are we doomed always be contenders for 'best of the rest' unless we get bought by some absolutely filthy rich oil tycoon or something?
Is that twenty first football in a nutshell? Instead of every so often producing great teams that can challenge the title, the likes of Villa and Everton will just have to hope they get bought by somebody with enough money to actually buy them the title.
Sorry mods I know this is the wrong place for a rant.
The problem is if he's not going to sign a new contract he needs to be sold now, otherwise he becomes worthless. £20m now is more useful in the long term, rather than half a season out of a player who is becoming more ineffective as the weeks progress.
If we could convince Ash to sign that contract
why the fook do players do this
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
why the fook do players do this
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/170943/Aston-Villa-Robert-Pires-in-a-rut-Villa-in-a-Houll/
He got rewarded with a start as well
Young's situation is another throwback to the MON days really. This policy of his of letting our best players get into the last years of their contract always put us on the backfoot when negotiatingThis isn't true. The club were negotiating with Young in the summer, when he did have two years left. It was Young who put those talks on hold. This is not the club's fault.
Young's situation is another throwback to the MON days really. This policy of his of letting our best players get into the last years of their contract always put us on the backfoot when negotiating
So you sign a play to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
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cant blame mon for that greg , if a player doesnt want to sign and wants to assess his options thats his choice .
In the season leading up to the departure of both Barry and Milner (and Platt and Yorke if you want to go further back to previous high profile, big money departures), I can point to games when the performance of those players were significant factors us winning games.
When was the last time, hand on heart, that any of us can say that the difference between the two sides in a Villa win was the performance of Ashley Young?
So you sign a play to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
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thats what clubs try to do especially with their younger players. 2 years is the minimum you can let valuable players contracts get to. Once they're in the last 24months of their contract you're in the danger area. If they get to 12 months, forget it really.
So you sign a player to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
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So you sign a play to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
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thats what clubs try to do especially with their younger players. 2 years is the minimum you can let valuable players contracts get to. Once they're in the last 24months of their contract you're in the danger area. If they get to 12 months, forget it really.
So you advocate re-negotiating players contracts every year? Are you someones agent?
So you sign a player to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
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Eh? 4 year deal would re negotiate after 2. Mid way through.
So you sign a play to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
Boggle
thats what clubs try to do especially with their younger players. 2 years is the minimum you can let valuable players contracts get to. Once they're in the last 24months of their contract you're in the danger area. If they get to 12 months, forget it really.
So you advocate re-negotiating players contracts every year? Are you someones agent?
what i'm saying is people see a player on say a 3 year contract and think thats a long time. the reality is you can knock off the last 18months . Once you get to that stage they've started looking around.
So you sign a player to a four year deal, then re-negotiate another one after the first year?
Boggle
Eh? 4 year deal would re negotiate after 2. Mid way through.
I was responding to Greg's idea that we should have negotiated Young's deal before it got down to less than two years. We did, it was Young who stalled after the window had closed. Greg is now suggesting we re-negotiate a four year deal after year one.
Sell Young? Do some of our fans actually want us to be relegated??
Yes, I truly believe some of them do, it will make their ranting look almost profound.
Just can't agree we should offer improved deals when players nearer the start of their contract than the end. If it's a four year deal then after two years is probably about right. And only Barry had gone into his last 12 months so far after the Liverpool bids.
I'm more concerned as to why we can't keep them!! [/quote
i think the reason we can't keep them is because of when we negotiate.at least partly anyway. Its human nature really. You offer a pay rise to player 2+ years till his contract runs out then getting a deal elsewhere seems a very long way off. Offer him one in the last 2 years and they keep their options open. Just had a look at our contracts and we have 12 players with less than 2years left and another 7 that get to 2 years this summer. they need to sort it out.
So at a time when we're trying to manage the wage bill we are now advocating giving players a pay rise every year as that is the inevitable consequence of a new contract. It's completely unsustainable.
Greg, which of our players do you think we should currently be offering improved contracts to?
Young is reminding me of the kid at school who wanted to do everything.The only thing he doesn't do is goal kick's.....yet.I just wish he would concentrate on being the bloody good winger he was.
Young is reminding me of the kid at school who wanted to do everything.The only thing he doesn't do is goal kick's.....yet.I just wish he would concentrate on being the bloody good winger he was.
Maybe it's because he has little faith in those around him ?
Remember, he was found out as an out and out winger, so MON moved him to a that role.
I agree though, he was at his best attacking defences in and around the box rather than picking the ball up in his own half much of the time.
We shouldn't sell Ash, it would be a big mistake.
Nope, I'd happily agree with that.Greg, which of our players do you think we should currently be offering improved contracts to?
well cuellar's contract for a start. you may not want him, but its a hell of lot of money to write off for a club not exactly flush with money
Nope, I'd happily agree with that.Greg, which of our players do you think we should currently be offering improved contracts to?
well cuellar's contract for a start. you may not want him, but its a hell of lot of money to write off for a club not exactly flush with money
There'd be a lot of clubs sniffing around if Cuellar became available and he's not someone we should be contemplating selling.
How about Downing? Should we be offering him a contract extension due to his form this season?
Fuck off, if Samba is better than Collins why is he still stuck at Blackburn?
Fuck off, if Samba is better than Collins why is he still stuck at Blackburn?
Could he be any worse?
Fuck off, if Samba is better than Collins why is he still stuck at Blackburn?
Could he be any worse?
Yes is the simple answer.
I like the way this window is panning out. I don't rate Bridge much, but I don't rate Warnock either. If we ship Warnock out and take Bridge for 5 months then come the Summer we'll have a free spot to get someone else... Which will be nice.
Same with Collins, I like him but if Ged doesn't rate him in his system them swap him for someone who he does (Samba).
Makoun is a quality player, someone I suggested many times. Would be very happy with that. Champions League experienced as well.
Cannot for the life of me see where a striker is gonna come from.
The signing of makoun would be the key but I'm sure we will see a striker arrive in the next 3 weeks as well- I'd still like to see a keeper arrive but with walker and maybe bridge and samba then at least houllier is beginning to shape his team as he wants it- should be an exciting 3 weeks ahead.
Samba's OK on the ball isn't he? can pass it from the back.
John I agree and that is why I was saying at the midpoint of a 4 year deal, and not always a big rise, but putting any rises on continued performance, goals, appearances etc.
Collins, Warnock & Reo-Coker Out, Barton & Samba in? No thank you.
Agree about the bloke. The player without baggage would be 15 million easy, the baggage makes him 2. Like buying a Cat C write off car, maybe even a B.
If we sign that piece of shit I will cut up my season card and give up football.
If we sign that piece of shit I will cut up my season card and give up football.
I have never agreed with a post more.
I don't like Barton but I wouldn't give up Villa because of him.If we sign that piece of shit I will cut up my season card and give up football.
I have never agreed with a post more.
another "i agree" here
Sounds like a none story anyway. If he doesn't want to leave and they don't want him to leave then it doesn't matter if we're interested. Personally i reckon NRC has already got his next move lined up this summer.
I don't like Barton but I wouldn't give up Villa because of him.
McNeill, O'Leary and Ellis couldn't keep me away, so neither would he.
Barton is a horrible bloke, but I agree with TV that we totally lack that streak of nastiness through the side that we could do with in the battle ahead. Barton won't win us any friends, but he might help to win us games. His record with youth players is sketchy though, especially with cigars and christmas time! Like Mark, I would not be happy about the bloke, but watching the player would not stop me going to the games.
Sounds like a none story anyway. If he doesn't want to leave and they don't want him to leave then it doesn't matter if we're interested. Personally i reckon NRC has already got his next move lined up this summer.
Certainly playing that way since coming back from injury Greg.
It's being discussed already, Paul.Thank you. I'll rewind.
Houllier seems to be linked with a lot of MONesque signings. Why? Where's all these new Hyppias and Hamanns we're supposed to be getting with his vast scouting network?
i thought Owen looked very sharp yesterday....
Is he on good terms with Houlier?
Charlie Adam is in my opinion a really good player because, he always makes himself available, he is always in space wanting the ball.
He is strong, not the quickest but very creative!
i thought Owen looked very sharp yesterday....
Is he on good terms with Houlier?
I thought yesturday aswell, if we got him and he stayed fit, he garentees goals!
Charlie Adam = little fish/big pond syndrome.
He'd be another Sidwell.
Charlie Adam = little fish/big pond syndrome.
NRC swap for Barton? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1345601/Aston-Villa-offer-Reo-Coker-fresh-bid-land-Newcastle-midfielder-Barton.html)
NRC swap for Barton? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1345601/Aston-Villa-offer-Reo-Coker-fresh-bid-land-Newcastle-midfielder-Barton.html)
Get him in for Sunday's game I say.
NRC swap for Barton? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1345601/Aston-Villa-offer-Reo-Coker-fresh-bid-land-Newcastle-midfielder-Barton.html)
Get him in for Sunday's game I say.
can we loan him for one game ?
Charlie Adam = little fish/big pond syndrome.
Erm, other way round maybe?!
Charlie Adam = little fish/big pond syndrome.
He'd be another Sidwell.
Totally disagree, Sidwell doesn't want too improve as a player all he cares about is money. He went Chelsea for money, then didn't leave us in the summer because of money.
Charlie Adam looks hungry and has alot more quality than Sidwell, ideal replaemt for Petrov!
With Owen we should get him for this season, it's no risk.
If he helps us stay up then we can sign Harold Shipman to be honest.
If we sign that piece of shit I will cut up my season card and give up football.
SSN reporting we've had a £2.5m bid for Charlie Adam turned down by Blackpool.
SSN reporting we've had a £2.5m bid for Charlie Adam turned down by Blackpool.
SSN reporting we've had a £2.5m bid for Charlie Adam turned down by Blackpool.
Anyone know if this is instead of or in addition to Makoun?
SSN reporting we've had a £2.5m bid for Charlie Adam turned down by Blackpool.
Anyone know if this is instead of or in addition to Makoun?
Probably instead. I think he's a good player. Good pass, clever, and hopefully can elbow Ash off set piece duties. Is he good enough for where we were aspiring to last season? No. Can he help us pull out this season, and estbalish mid-table next year? Yes. Says it all as to where we aspire to be these days.
Charlie Adam = little fish/big pond syndrome.
He'd be another Sidwell.
Or, he's a much better squad option than Sidwell. He wouldn't be instead of Makoun. Completely different types of players.My take on it as well.
Probably instead. I think he's a good player. Good pass, clever, and hopefully can elbow Ash off set piece duties. Is he good enough for where we were aspiring to last season? No. Can he help us pull out this season, and estbalish mid-table next year? Yes. Says it all as to where we aspire to be these days.
Or, he's a much better squad option than Sidwell. He wouldn't be instead of Makoun. Completely different types of players.My take on it as well.
Bannan hardly ever played for Blackburn last season.
Bannan hardly ever played for Blackburn last season.
He only really played when Adam wasn't.
I hate to be blunt but none of these signings are exactly going to help our wage bill or with the exception of maybe Makoun improve our side much.
I hate to be blunt but none of these signings are exactly going to help our wage bill or with the exception of maybe Makoun improve our side much.
Sky Sports News understands Aston Villa have had a £2.5million bid for Charlie Adam knocked back by Blackpool.
The Scotland international has made the step up into the Premier League with consummate ease this season, having shone for the Seasiders as they secured promotion into the big time last term.
He has netted four goals in all competitions, including three in the top flight, as Blackpool have held their own among England's elite.
Their success has seen a number of their stars fall under the microscope, with Adam considered to be the ace in Ian Holloway's pack.
Valuation
The Seasiders boss admitted over the weekend that he would not be averse to cashing in on Adam, but has made it clear that the price must be right.
Villa's approach would appear to fall some way short of the valuation Blackpool have placed on a player they snapped up for £500,000 from Rangers in August 2009.
It remains to be seen whether Gerard Houllier will return with an improved bid, but the Villans are not the only side chasing the 25-year-old midfielder.
Villa's local rivals Birmingham are also believed to be in the running, although a proposed £2million offer from the Blues will be given short shrift by Blackpool.
Sandman , why are you so worried about the wage bill, it's results that matter and Adam has looked a decent premiership player, at the price being touted he seems like a decent enough signing and I wouldn't expect reo coker or petrov to be here next season- makoun would be the key signing but why not get adam as well - maybe we will be selling more than we think.
Brigde, walker, samba, Adam, makoun , cummings and another striker and keeper would give us new impetus.
Carew, ireland, sidwell,warcock , davies and reo - coker out and it would be be good pruning!
Bannan played 20 games last season for Blackpool so he will be well aware of Adam and his playing style.
Really hope this is true, Adam is a replacement for the shite Petrov.I wouldn't have thought so, Adam is an attacking midfielder, Petrov is defensive.
Sandman , why are you so worried about the wage bill, it's results that matter and Adam has looked a decent premiership player, at the price being touted he seems like a decent enough signing and I wouldn't expect reo coker or petrov to be here next season- makoun would be the key signing but why not get adam as well - maybe we will be selling more than we think.
Brigde, walker, samba, Adam, makoun , cummings and another striker and keeper would give us new impetus.
Carew, ireland, sidwell,warcock , davies and reo - coker out and it would be be good pruning!
Bannan played 20 games last season for Blackpool so he will be well aware of Adam and his playing style.
why anyone would want reo-coker to leave is beyond me. thrash out a deal, sign him back up and make him club captain at the end of the season....
Really hope this is true, Adam is a replacement for the shite Petrov.I wouldn't have thought so, Adam is an attacking midfielder, Petrov is defensive.
And if Petrov is shite, I'd like some more goals off him, like that shite one he scored on Saturday.
Sandman , why are you so worried about the wage bill, it's results that matter and Adam has looked a decent premiership player, at the price being touted he seems like a decent enough signing and I wouldn't expect reo coker or petrov to be here next season- makoun would be the key signing but why not get adam as well - maybe we will be selling more than we think.
Brigde, walker, samba, Adam, makoun , cummings and another striker and keeper would give us new impetus.
Carew, ireland, sidwell,warcock , davies and reo - coker out and it would be be good pruning!
Bannan played 20 games last season for Blackpool so he will be well aware of Adam and his playing style.
why anyone would want reo-coker to leave is beyond me. thrash out a deal, sign him back up and make him club captain at the end of the season....
yes it was a good goal but they are very rare and now he is playing more attacking and reo is defensive, petrov is an attacking midfielder and that is what he done at celtic. still have adam any day over him though, i think charlie adam and reo will be a very good partnership
Anyone know what Blackpool want for him?I'd offer £2.5m + Osborne and Salifou.
Back to Wayne Bridge, how embarrassing is it going to be if he turns us down for West Ham?
I'd take Bridge - always thought he was a decent player that was wasted sitting on Chelsea's and then Man City's benches.
I'm hearing Hitler's invading Poland.
I'd take Bridge - always thought he was a decent player that was wasted sitting on Chelsea's and then Man City's benches.
same here John
He's probably too much in his shell now that everybody knows that John Terry was exchanging bodily fluids with his now ex-girlfriend.I'd take Bridge - always thought he was a decent player that was wasted sitting on Chelsea's and then Man City's benches.
same here John
I would sign the Wayne Bridge who played for Southampton. But after five years of being in the comfort zone, does he still have the freshness and the desire?
I bloody doubt it to be honest.
I'm hearing Hitler's invading Poland.
I'd take Bridge - always thought he was a decent player that was wasted sitting on Chelsea's and then Man City's benches.
same here John
I would sign the Wayne Bridge who played for Southampton. But after five years of being in the comfort zone, does he still have the freshness and the desire?
I bloody doubt it to be honest.
Regarding Charlie Adam, his contract runs out end of this season, that's why he is so cheap.
Regarding Petrov, his goal was smashed straight at the keeper, no composure at all just like the sitter he missed 2 mins before.
NRC is our defensive midfielder Charlie Adam would work brilliant with him, so fingers crossed.
I'm hearing Hitler's invading Poland.
Depending on your viewpoint I might have some bad news about John Lennon.
If we were not in the bottom three I'd have concerns about the signing of Adam limiting the development of Bannan, stunting his metaphorical growth if you will. Needs must.
Sounds too short, doesn't it? But then again, August 2009 was a different time altogether for Blackpool... who'd have thought a year later they'd have been in the PL? Maybe a two year deal to sign a player from Glasgow Rangers was all they could afford, or were prepared, to offer?
If we were not in the bottom three I'd have concerns about the signing of Adam limiting the development of Bannan, stunting his metaphorical growth if you will. Needs must.
I think his absence made NRC a better player in the mind than on the pitch. I am guilty of this with him. He is in no way good enough, and a midfield pair of Adam and Makoun is much more enticing than Reo Coker and Petrov.
Still need a forward though.
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Reo Coker will not take us forward. Makoun and Adam along with Bannan, G. Gardner and Delph will. ........Only forward really mentioned is Mbokani and he even looks crap in the promotion you tube video !!!
If we were not in the bottom three I'd have concerns about the signing of Adam limiting the development of Bannan, stunting his metaphorical growth if you will. Needs must.
Did you think the same about Coker doing that to Osborne?
Adam is the Sidwell replacement IMO.
if you assume all footballers are overpaid, arrogant wankers perhaps signing Barton isn't so bad.
where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
If Houllier is thinking of bringing the sewer rat Barton in, then lerner & faulkner need to apply the brakes nowSomehow I doubt his dickishness would have been made apparent until he actually came to this country, so it's an unfair comparison to make. He was signed on the back of a very good world cup campaign.
Let's not forget it was Houllier that imported E H Diouf onto these shores so can't put this past him
where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
Houllier has had 10 days of one transfer window to source the best players available.
MON had four years, and bar two, every single one of his signings was already playing in England or Scotland.
The notion that English players are best, or foreign ones are best is flawed - we should be looking as far and wide as we can to find the best players possible in our budget.
Houllier has barely had a chance to start getting players in, so we'll see how that goes, but the myopia of MON's transfer policy is one of the things we're paying for now.
A lot better than if he'd signed Robbie Keane, Aiden McGeady and Jermaine Jenas.where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
Houllier has had 10 days of one transfer window to source the best players available.
MON had four years, and bar two, every single one of his signings was already playing in England or Scotland.
The notion that English players are best, or foreign ones are best is flawed - we should be looking as far and wide as we can to find the best players possible in our budget.
Houllier has barely had a chance to start getting players in, so we'll see how that goes, but the myopia of MON's transfer policy is one of the things we're paying for now.
Houllier has barely had a chance to start getting players in, so we'll see how that goes, but the myopia of MON's transfer policy is one of the things we're paying for now.
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
Too right...what was he thinking of when he signed Milner and A.Young? Especially after selling Milner and hardly getting anything for him, apart from Ireland that is (what a deal!).
where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
Houllier has had 10 days of one transfer window to source the best players available.
MON had four years, and bar two, every single one of his signings was already playing in England or Scotland.
The notion that English players are best, or foreign ones are best is flawed - we should be looking as far and wide as we can to find the best players possible in our budget.
Houllier has barely had a chance to start getting players in, so we'll see how that goes, but the myopia of MON's transfer policy is one of the things we're paying for now.
Too right...what was he thinking of when he signed Milner and A.Young? Especially after selling Milner and hardly getting anything for him, apart from Ireland that is (what a deal!).
The same as he was thinking when he bought Harewood, Sidwell, Beye, Knight, Routledge and so on I'd guess, he didn't give me the impression he had too many original thoughts, especially if his tactics were anything to go by
where are all these Johnny Foreigner types we thought we'd be signing ?
I was thinking the same thing - what would peoples reaction have been if MON had signed Kyle Walker and Charlie Adam?
Houllier has had 10 days of one transfer window to source the best players available.
MON had four years, and bar two, every single one of his signings was already playing in England or Scotland.
The notion that English players are best, or foreign ones are best is flawed - we should be looking as far and wide as we can to find the best players possible in our budget.
Houllier has barely had a chance to start getting players in, so we'll see how that goes, but the myopia of MON's transfer policy is one of the things we're paying for now.
All points I agree with, except the last one, but I do feel there would be pages of anti-MON rhetoric over those two players. And I think you do too!
As it goes I think Houllier's stratergy, or at least what it seems to be thus far, is right. Now is not the time to try and bed in a number of overseas players all at once - we can't afford it! Existing PL players who can come in and hit the ground running is what we need, such as Bridge and Adam.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.Midfield needs sorting out as Petrov is getting no younger and NRC isn't a long term answer by any stretch of the imagination.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Seems to me the tide of goodwill is turning towards houllier and fans are beginning to give him a bit of credit- this pleases me as does the players we are being linked with having made bids for- I feel there may be a real twist in our season yet and hope that good times are around the corner.Strange because i have this feeling too, hope were right as i would start sleeping at night again.
A win at blues will give everyone at our club a massive lift so let's hope it's our weekend!
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.Unfortunately, as it stands that is exactly what we have become - a tinpot outfit battling other tinpot outfits for players and Premier League survival.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
You can keep your low opinion of the club to yourself, have you been hanging around a load of Dogshitters?Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.Unfortunately, as it stands that is exactly what we have become - a tinpot outfit battling other tinpot outfits for players and Premier League survival.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
If he's got 18 months left then it'll take a decent chunk more than £2.5m.£3m + Osbourne and warm their heels to Putney Bridge!
What do you think?
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11800_6649136,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11800_6649136,00.html)
What do you think?
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11800_6649136,00.html (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11800_6649136,00.html)
All we need now is to track down one of Kachloul's siblings and Midfield sorted!
If he's got 18 months left then it'll take a decent chunk more than £2.5m.£3m + Osbourne and warm their heels to Putney Bridge!
If he's got 18 months left then it'll take a decent chunk more than £2.5m.
Could be his way of bumping the price up to their desired amount of £3m-£3.5m.If he's got 18 months left then it'll take a decent chunk more than £2.5m.
Wiki says that it was two years with a one year option. Which I assume is theirs only and not his?
Also Holloway might be a bit tongue in cheek but he makes it sound like we are too shite to sign him?
His chief scout is on the case.
Houllier apparently works 16 hours a day so I'm sure he's busy now working on deals.
If we don't sign at least one Pascal or Xavier this January I will feel a little bit cheated.
So far then, a third of the way into the window, we've loaned a Spurs reserve (albeit a decent one possibly), have a 28 year old from the Disney League on trial (still) and are being linked with Bridge, Barton, Samba & Adam.
Christ, pass me the prozac
Adam is a decent player and anyone who can't see that isn't worth taking seriously. He doesn't seem short on confidence so the changed expectation levels shouldn't phase him but I'm not sure how willing we are to enter into a bidding war so I have my doubts about whether it will happen.
Have seen a very unhappy looking James Collins at the Belfry this afternoon , he had his Mrs and baby with him,
Thn Samba deal looks on.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Blimey. That Hadji's a looker! Add him to Gabby and Walker and we'll scare the opposition to death in the tunnel! Our games would have to have a PG rating!Had a giggle on that . Nice one ........
Have seen a very unhappy looking James Collins at the Belfry this afternoon , he had his Mrs and baby with him,The bit after the comma explains why he was unhappy.
Adam is a decent player and anyone who can't see that isn't worth taking seriously. He doesn't seem short on confidence so the changed expectation levels shouldn't phase him but I'm not sure how willing we are to enter into a bidding war so I have my doubts about whether it will happen.
He's a decent player, but I think his form will suffer if he leaves Blackpool, and if he ended up at Villa I can't see him making the difference between staying up and going down. We've got Petrov, NRC, Delph, Bannan, Hogg and Ireland in central midfield. He'd be an improvement on some of those, but surely a striker is a more pressing concern, especially if funds are limited?
Have seen a very unhappy looking James Collins at the Belfry this afternoon , he had his Mrs and baby with him,
Thn Samba deal looks on.
Have seen a very unhappy looking James Collins at the Belfry this afternoon , he had his Mrs and baby with him,
Thn Samba deal looks on.
Did you have a chance to speak to him?
Villa View: Charlie Adam interest confirmed but Barton move a rumour
Jan 10 2011 By Mat Kendrick
Aston Villa correspondent Mat Kendrick has the latest on Gerard Houllier's transfer targets.
The club confirmed their interest in Blackpool's Charlie Adam but denied any move for Newcastle United's Joey Barton.
Cast your minds back to when Randy took over, and to all the 'proud history, bright future' propaganda and think how you would have felt if someone had said to you 'In 4 years time you'll loan a right back off Tottenham who are now in the Champions League by the way, you're after a chubby bloke from Blackpool for £2.5m who has played half a season in the Premier League and is being chased by Blues and other relegation threatened teams, and you won't pay £7m for Makoun (allegedly), oh and you're 18th'. I'd have thought old deadly was back!
"It's important to keep working with him to achieve one of his ultimate goals, which is to play for one of the top four or five, or even six, clubs. -Ian Holloway.
Wasn't hard to guess but the sun have exaggerated Holloway's comments, we are too small for Adam!
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3341222/Blackpool-reject-double-bid-for-Charlie-Adam.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=Football
If Blackpool don't go down this year, then they will next season. Adam's will know the score and get out now.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
"It's important to keep working with him to achieve one of his ultimate goals, which is to play for one of the top four or five, or even six, clubs. -Ian Holloway.
Correct me if im wrong, but havent we finished top 6 for the last 3 seasons? The sun are a bunch of shit eaters!
.....he didn't give me the impression he had too many original thoughts....
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
Dortmund stay for Weidenfeller
The 30-year-old German, whose previous contract at the current Bundesliga leaders was due to expire in the summer, was understood to have been in talks with Villa over a potential move to the Premier League.
However, the club have confirmed on their official website that Weidenfeller has prolonged his deal by three seasons.
The shot-stopper, who arrived in Dortmund from Kaiserslautern in 2002, is pleased to extend his stay at the high-flying club.
He said: "I'm happy to play an important role in the sporting development of Dortmund."
Dortmund have conceded just 10 goals this season with Weidenfeller between the sticks, marking the best record in the league and giving them a 10-point advantage over nearest rivals Mainz and Bayer Leverkusen.
I've just had a terrible thought, that Adam is our "Aspinall" moment, and like some kind marker of a Villa Relegation Apocolypse he'll die on his arse and we'll be relegated by mid-April.
Charlie bloody Adam? Dear oh dear. Is that what we've become, battling tinpot outfits like Blues and other relegation fodder for a lard arse from Blackpool? Maybe Houllier is building a team ready for the Championship next season.
Our players would look good and stand out in their team, they're shit journeymen. Stop fannying about with rubbish like Adam and sign us a quality striker because Agbonlahor is a crock of shit.
I've just had a terrible thought, that Adam is our "Aspinall" moment, and like some kind marker of a Villa Relegation Apocolypse he'll die on his arse and we'll be relegated by mid-April.
I've just had a terrible thought, that Adam is our "Aspinall" moment, and like some kind marker of a Villa Relegation Apocolypse he'll die on his arse and we'll be relegated by mid-April.
Without Aspinall we wouldn't have gone straight back up.......
Just caught up with the new pages from this morning and I have a question, how many of us have actually seen Makoun play on a regular basis? I hope he lives up to the expectations if/when he arrives.He's the new Berson.
I see Adam as a short term fix, Bannan should be the future
Sorry but all those bigging Bannon up will be disapointed, he is a talent no doubt but just his size will find him out in the prem. Far to easily knocked of the ball, two stone heavier and five inches taller and he woul.d be great. I've watched C Adam a couple of times and been impressed with how clinical his passing is, similar to Barry but a bigger threat. I was hoping to have a midfielder in for the battle this wekend it could make or break us.
Just had a look on a Blackpool forum, a supposed ITK said 4.5 million to Sunderland done deal.
How backwards have we gone that we are worried that blues or Sunderland might beat us to a player we are after. Fuck me.
Here
http://www.blackpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=23801&posts=14
It makes me laugh those people so informed that they know full well how every signing will turn out. Charlie Adam is shit. We're fighting with Sunderland for players. I bet those same people were slamming Kyle Walker before he signed, and would have lambasted the manager if we sign players from the lower leagues, yet herald Moyes for finding the likes of Cahill. Charlie Adam has done very well indeed for Blackpool, and sometimes players from small teams do make the step up seamlessly. Apparently we've upped our bid, so why don't we just see how it turns out before jumping off a bridge at every piece of news about the club and its targets. I've never known hysteria like it.
Knew he would choose the spam cause he has family down there. Saves 70k a week. Surely we can get a decent left back either here or europe. Hope Houllier has a plan B ??
west ham sign bridge
Daily Star (http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/171430/West-Ham-sign-Wayne-Bridge-on-loan/)
Couldn't care less that we didn't get Bridge, no better than Warnock in my view.
Enormous wages as well.
Why would he come to Villa on loan for a few months? He stays in the same City now.
So some of our fans are moaning about the Charlie Adam links.
Well..... Spurs are after Phil Neville.
He was on his mobile 90% of the time, and looked a really pissed off James Collins, so no, I left him to himself.
Think I'll wait until I see it somewhere other than The Daily Star before I accept this as 100% gospel.
Sorry but all those bigging Bannon up will be disapointed, he is a talent no doubt but just his size will find him out in the prem. Far to easily knocked of the ball, two stone heavier and five inches taller and he woul.d be great.
Adam is a no risk signing, relatively low wages and in this day and age a very cheap fee.
If we signed him for £4m, it didn't work out and we wanted to shift him on, we'd get most of that back.
Adam is a no risk signing, relatively low wages and in this day and age a very cheap fee.
Sorry but all those bigging Bannon up will be disapointed, he is a talent no doubt but just his size will find him out in the prem. Far to easily knocked of the ball, two stone heavier and five inches taller and he woul.d be great.
just like juninho and zola? dont talk rubbish man, players adapt their game to suit their physical stature...
Think I'll wait until I see it somewhere other than The Daily Star before I accept this as 100% gospel.
"Wayne Bridge last night agreed terms to move on loan from Manchester City to West Ham United until the end of the season..."
The Independent - Clicky (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/bridge-loan-unlikely-to-save-grant-from-abyss-2181157.html)
If Ged was actually in for this player,
If Ged was actually in for this player,
That is the real question.
Think I'll wait until I see it somewhere other than The Daily Star before I accept this as 100% gospel.
"Wayne Bridge last night agreed terms to move on loan from Manchester City to West Ham United until the end of the season..."
The Independent - Clicky (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/bridge-loan-unlikely-to-save-grant-from-abyss-2181157.html)
SSN now reporting he's having a medical down there. We've just been rejected for West Ham, Jesus Christ.
Before 'he wants to live in London' starts up - We pay for Pires to travel up everyday! It's not exactly the other end of the earth he could be down there in an hour or two.
If Ged was actually in for this player, it's a bit shit he couldn't convince him to come here over that shower of shite.
If Ged was actually in for this player,
That is the real question.
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Sorry but all those bigging Bannon up will be disapointed, he is a talent no doubt but just his size will find him out in the prem. Far to easily knocked of the ball, two stone heavier and five inches taller and he woul.d be great.
just like juninho and zola? dont talk rubbish man, players adapt their game to suit their physical stature...
Didn't he confirm that he was in talks at his press conference on Friday ?
If Ged was actually in for this player,
That is the real question.
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Think I'll wait until I see it somewhere other than The Daily Star before I accept this as 100% gospel.
"Wayne Bridge last night agreed terms to move on loan from Manchester City to West Ham United until the end of the season..."
The Independent - Clicky (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/bridge-loan-unlikely-to-save-grant-from-abyss-2181157.html)
SSN now reporting he's having a medical down there. We've just been rejected for West Ham, Jesus Christ.
Before 'he wants to live in London' starts up - We pay for Pires to travel up everyday! It's not exactly the other end of the earth he could be down there in an hour or two.
If Ged was actually in for this player, it's a bit shit he couldn't convince him to come here over that shower of shite.
Somewhat simplistic.
What if, for example, he doesn't fancy commuting two hours each way every day? I did that myself for a few years and it isn't much fun.
All this "OMG we've been rejected for team x" stuff is indicative that a few people need to man up a bit and stop being quite so hysterical about things.
Think I'll wait until I see it somewhere other than The Daily Star before I accept this as 100% gospel.
"Wayne Bridge last night agreed terms to move on loan from Manchester City to West Ham United until the end of the season..."
The Independent - Clicky (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/bridge-loan-unlikely-to-save-grant-from-abyss-2181157.html)
Sorry but all those bigging Bannon up will be disapointed, he is a talent no doubt but just his size will find him out in the prem. Far to easily knocked of the ball, two stone heavier and five inches taller and he woul.d be great.
just like juninho and zola? dont talk rubbish man, players adapt their game to suit their physical stature...
Adam is a no risk signing, relatively low wages and in this day and age a very cheap fee.
If we signed him for £4m, it didn't work out and we wanted to shift him on, we'd get most of that back.
The risk comes when he hits the pitch not the fecking balance sheet. When did we become an asset management company?
I hate this player snobbery that seems to drift into transfer discussions. 'Kid from Spurs', 'midfielder from Blackpool', etc. So a guy plays for little Blackpool... so what? Doesn't mean he can't play. Before that he was Glasgow Rangers (though had we signed Charlie Adam from them it would have been 'Scottish football's rubbish'. Since he's been at Blackpool, they've won promotion, now they're performing well (better than us) in the PL. Adam's their key player.
It's not about - or not always about - the club they play for. It's about spotting a player.
How many loans are we allowed anyway?
A good £100.000 buy that one and a certain Dwight Yorke who had heard of him before we signed him and didnt the Doc say he will never be a footballer!!!I hate this player snobbery that seems to drift into transfer discussions. 'Kid from Spurs', 'midfielder from Blackpool', etc. So a guy plays for little Blackpool... so what? Doesn't mean he can't play. Before that he was Glasgow Rangers (though had we signed Charlie Adam from them it would have been 'Scottish football's rubbish'. Since he's been at Blackpool, they've won promotion, now they're performing well (better than us) in the PL. Adam's their key player.
It's not about - or not always about - the club they play for. It's about spotting a player.
Or David Platt from Crewe?
So has Bridge signed for West Ham then? i cant see confirmation anywhere...According to SSN when they are not drooling over Beckham in training (what a circus that is) he is having a medical how may of those did Sidwell have?
Lets hope his scouting network work and continental contacts pulls someone out of the bag soon. Surely he know's someone just as good as Wayne Bridge that wouldn't cost 70 grand a week. Surely?!?
So has Bridge signed for West Ham then? i cant see confirmation anywhere...According to SSN when they are not drooling over Beckham in training (what a circus that is) he is having a medical how may of those did Sidwell have?
Watching Owen against Liverpool and he looked back to his fittest.Or at least a euro
He'd be worth a punt.
So has Bridge signed for West Ham then? i cant see confirmation anywhere...According to SSN when they are not drooling over Beckham in training (what a circus that is) he is having a medical how may of those did Sidwell have?
"Coming soon we'll have pictures of David Beckham in Spurs training gear, on the Spurs training pitch, training with Spurs players"
that is a real quote from a SSN reporter "LIVE" outside the Spurs training ground this morning. I had to turn it off.
"Coming soon we'll have pictures of David Beckham in Spurs training gear, on the Spurs training pitch, training with Spurs players"me too, i was nearly sick...
that is a real quote from a SSN reporter "LIVE" outside the Spurs training ground this morning. I had to turn it off.
An absolute non story which I can't believe is still running when it's clear the likelihood of him signing on loan is zero.Especially as LA Galaxy want him back in training in Feb.A joke !!So has Bridge signed for West Ham then? i cant see confirmation anywhere...According to SSN when they are not drooling over Beckham in training (what a circus that is) he is having a medical how may of those did Sidwell have?
"Coming soon we'll have pictures of David Beckham in Spurs training gear, on the Spurs training pitch, training with Spurs players"
that is a real quote from a SSN reporter "LIVE" outside the Spurs training ground this morning. I had to turn it off.
Vomit inducing.
Shows how hard up they are for a story, rolling coverage of a bloke training.
After watching SSN and reading the papers for the last couple of weeks I think I get the gist of 'The Biggest Football Story Ever' now. Basically, instead of training with Arsenal during the US close season he is now training with Spurs. But like all great stories there could be a twist - he might actually make a few appearances for them too till next month - incredible stuff!
Don't worry everybody were due for a bit of respite soon.They're going over to Eastlands for a press conference for the unveiling of Dzeko ::)At least that's newsworthy.
I really can't see who the forward could be, guess someone from abroad but they're certainly keeping it quiet.
I really can't see who the forward could be, guess someone from abroad but they're certainly keeping it quiet.
milan baros- swap with carew. 40 goals in 54 games is not to be sniffed at :)
Kendrick made it clear that there is a striker target in front of the lad linked from Monaco too, but was not privy to who it is. Also thinks we will spend in excess of 10million this window which is good news if it comes to pass.
I really can't see who the forward could be, guess someone from abroad but they're certainly keeping it quiet.
milan baros- swap with carew. 40 goals in 54 games is not to be sniffed at :)
Where is Baros nowadays,working in a Slade cover band?
Don't worry everybody were due for a bit of respite soon.They're going over to Eastlands for a press conference for the unveiling of Dzeko ::)At least that's newsworthy.
Beckham trotting up and down a pitch isn't.
Kendrick made it clear that there is a striker target in front of the lad linked from Monaco too, but was not privy to who it is. Also thinks we will spend in excess of 10million this window which is good news if it comes to pass.
Although I'm curious by the striker targrt, I think a lot more than £10m is needed. £10m would just about account for Makoun and Adam, so if we're getting a decent striker also you need to be talking £20m+ total.
Edit: Sorry - see it's already been discussed above!
Kendrick made it clear that there is a striker target in front of the lad linked from Monaco too, but was not privy to who it is. Also thinks we will spend in excess of 10million this window which is good news if it comes to pass.
Although I'm curious by the striker targrt, I think a lot more than £10m is needed. £10m would just about account for Makoun and Adam, so if we're getting a decent striker also you need to be talking £20m+ total.
The quality of their league must've nosedived.I really can't see who the forward could be, guess someone from abroad but they're certainly keeping it quiet.
milan baros- swap with carew. 40 goals in 54 games is not to be sniffed at :)
Where is Baros nowadays,working in a Slade cover band?
scoring shedloads for galatasaray apparently
Kendrick made it clear that there is a striker target in front of the lad linked from Monaco too, but was not privy to who it is. Also thinks we will spend in excess of 10million this window which is good news if it comes to pass.
Although I'm curious by the striker targrt, I think a lot more than £10m is needed. £10m would just about account for Makoun and Adam, so if we're getting a decent striker also you need to be talking £20m+ total.
Edit: Sorry - see it's already been discussed above!
Hypothetically.
7 million on Makoun
4 on Adam
Walker loan
Collins and Warnock out for Samba
Safari (left back linked) 1-2 million
Loan striker say Keane/ Owen/ Santa Cruz type stop gap till the summer.
Total spend around 13-14 million, with the side looking vastly different and a decent influx of players. A bit of creativity has been needed in the market for over 2 seasons, maybe we can get something workable that will push us up the league without spending a fortune and still cutting the wage bill back.
How will people feel if we have a net spend of only £5/£6m this window?
The quality of their league must've nosedived.I really can't see who the forward could be, guess someone from abroad but they're certainly keeping it quiet.
milan baros- swap with carew. 40 goals in 54 games is not to be sniffed at :)
Where is Baros nowadays,working in a Slade cover band?
scoring shedloads for galatasaray apparently
Kendrick made it clear that there is a striker target in front of the lad linked from Monaco too, but was not privy to who it is. Also thinks we will spend in excess of 10million this window which is good news if it comes to pass.
Although I'm curious by the striker targrt, I think a lot more than £10m is needed. £10m would just about account for Makoun and Adam, so if we're getting a decent striker also you need to be talking £20m+ total.
Not necessarily, buying from abroad will be a cheaper market. It'll only be £10m+ for someone from over here, a Carlton Cole type. How much did Chicharito and Rodagella cost for example? Or Yakubu when he went to Pompey? Chamakh was on a free but he wasn't being touted for much the Summer before.
How will people feel if we have a net spend of only £5/£6m this window?
How will people feel if we have a net spend of only £5/£6m this window?
How will people feel if we have a net spend of only £5/£6m this window?
How will people feel if we have a net spend of only £5/£6m this window?
Backing him is one thing, attracting quality players to a club in the relegation zone with a manager and coach who command little / no respect from players is another thing
How will people feel if we have a net spend of only £5/£6m this window?
That's quite a range there.
£6m is a decent net spend, whereas £5 is what I spend on crisps a week.
Hypothetically.
7 million on Makoun
4 on Adam
Walker loan
Collins and Warnock out for Samba
Safari (left back linked) 1-2 million
Loan striker say Keane/ Owen/ Santa Cruz type stop gap till the summer.
Total spend around 13-14 million, with the side looking vastly different and a decent influx of players. A bit of creativity has been needed in the market for over 2 seasons, maybe we can get something workable that will push us up the league without spending a fortune and still cutting the wage bill back.
Not necessarily, buying from abroad will be a cheaper market. It'll only be £10m+ for someone from over here, a Carlton Cole type. How much did Chicharito and Rodagella cost for example? Or Yakubu when he went to Pompey? Chamakh was on a free but he wasn't being touted for much the Summer before.
Backing him is one thing, attracting quality players to a club in the relegation zone with a manager and coach who command little / no respect from players is another thing
Backing him is one thing, attracting quality players to a club in the relegation zone with a manager and coach who command little / no respect from players is another thing
He's not a joke. I dont like his paper and I had him confused with somebody else once but I was wrong.So what has he told us today, or even since the transfer window has been open that we do not already know ?? Except that he was going to talkto GH at 11am and who was not even there .....
He's alright and he does get genuine info. I have that on fairly good authority.
He's not a joke. I dont like his paper and I had him confused with somebody else once but I was wrong.So what has he told us today, or even since the transfer window has been open that we do not already know ?? Except that he was going to talkto GH at 11am and who was not even there .....
He's alright and he does get genuine info. I have that on fairly good authority.
Some reporters have a scattergun approach to stories, writing a dozen 'exclusives' in the hope they get one right. Others only comment when they have a fair degree of certainty.
He's not a joke. I dont like his paper and I had him confused with somebody else once but I was wrong.So what has he told us today, or even since the transfer window has been open that we do not already know ?? Except that he was going to talkto GH at 11am and who was not even there .....
He's alright and he does get genuine info. I have that on fairly good authority.
So absoloutely nothing what has not been reported on this site already. 70% is what any of us could guess after reading all the reports and other rumours. Barton link is already reported as "bullshit". Mbokani mentioned two weeks ago. Makoun on SSN aware of clubs in for him. As i originally said. He has told us nothing. Just hope Makoun is going to be a Villa player by sunday ..........He's not a joke. I dont like his paper and I had him confused with somebody else once but I was wrong.So what has he told us today, or even since the transfer window has been open that we do not already know ?? Except that he was going to talkto GH at 11am and who was not even there .....
He's alright and he does get genuine info. I have that on fairly good authority.
He told us that the Makoun deal is looking favourable, that there is money to spend and that we'll spend more than £10m. That is to say, not less than. That its 70% likely we'll have a player or players in by Sunday.
That we're after a striker and that M'Bokani is perhaps not the first choice target. That Houllier is as passionate if not as animated as the previous manager... amongst other stuff. Thats the Barton link is bullshit... That's just what I can recall right now.
Most of it sepcific and not ambiguous like most bullshitters. Believe it or not, it's no skin off my nose but I think he's genuine and I've been told something along those lines by people I do know to be on the level.
Barton's not a target.
Are Blackpool at home to Liverpool tomorrow?
If so, any Adam deal would probably wait till after that so he could have a farewell victory!
Barton's not a target.
Are Blackpool at home to Liverpool tomorrow?
If so, any Adam deal would probably wait till after that so he could have a farewell victory!
You watch him get injured in a freak accident now.
Nothing from PMK1981 today, so i'll post for him.Eerily authentic.
CHALIE ADAM? - BLACKPOOL REJECT. HOULLIER FUCKING CLOWN SHOULD BE SACKED
STILL NO NEW SIGNINGS, I HOPE WE GO DOWN, THAT WILL TEACH HIM!!!!!!
Nothing from PMK1981 today, so i'll post for him.
CHALIE ADAM? - BLACKPOOL REJECT. HOULLIER FUCKING CLOWN SHOULD BE SACKED
STILL NO NEW SIGNINGS, I HOPE WE GO DOWN, THAT WILL TEACH HIM!!!!!!
Nothing from PMK1981 today, so i'll post for him.
CHALIE ADAM? - BLACKPOOL REJECT. HOULLIER FUCKING CLOWN SHOULD BE SACKED
STILL NO NEW SIGNINGS, I HOPE WE GO DOWN, THAT WILL TEACH HIM!!!!!!
Nothing from PMK1981 today, so i'll post for him.
CHALIE ADAM? - BLACKPOOL REJECT. HOULLIER FUCKING CLOWN SHOULD BE SACKED
STILL NO NEW SIGNINGS, I HOPE WE GO DOWN, THAT WILL TEACH HIM!!!!!!
We should all protest at the next home match, self immolation like that monk in Vietnam.
Nothing from PMK1981 today, so i'll post for him.
CHALIE ADAM? - BLACKPOOL REJECT. HOULLIER FUCKING CLOWN SHOULD BE SACKED
STILL NO NEW SIGNINGS, I HOPE WE GO DOWN, THAT WILL TEACH HIM!!!!!!
We should all protest at the next home match, self immolation like that monk in Vietnam.
What, with petrol at £1.30 a litre?
Can someone tell me why we are putting bids in for Charlie Adam, when we have plenty of midfielders already.....ie Bannan, Hogg, Ireland, Young, Downing, Petrov, Reo, Albrighton, Herd, Gardner, Pires, Delph (apologies for any I have missed). He is a average to good player but I cant see what more he will addExperience of getting out of the Championship? :p
Can someone tell me why we are putting bids in for Charlie Adam, when we have plenty of midfielders already.....ie Bannan, Hogg, Ireland, Young, Downing, Petrov, Reo, Albrighton, Herd, Gardner, Pires, Delph (apologies for any I have missed). He is a average to good player but I cant see what more he will add
Kendrick made it clear that there is a striker target in front of the lad linked from Monaco too, but was not privy to who it is. Also thinks we will spend in excess of 10million this window which is good news if it comes to pass.
Although I'm curious by the striker targrt, I think a lot more than £10m is needed. £10m would just about account for Makoun and Adam, so if we're getting a decent striker also you need to be talking £20m+ total.
Not necessarily, buying from abroad will be a cheaper market. It'll only be £10m+ for someone from over here, a Carlton Cole type. How much did Chicharito and Rodagella cost for example? Or Yakubu when he went to Pompey? Chamakh was on a free but he wasn't being touted for much the Summer before.
Arggggggggghhhh!
Can someone tell me why we are putting bids in for Charlie Adam, when we have plenty of midfielders already.....ie Bannan, Hogg, Ireland, Young, Downing, Petrov, Reo, Albrighton, Herd, Gardner, Pires, Delph (apologies for any I have missed). He is a average to good player but I cant see what more he will add
young;young;mental;winger;winger;old;shit;young/winger;young;young;old;young
your welcome
Nothing from PMK1981 today, so i'll post for him.
CHALIE ADAM? - BLACKPOOL REJECT. HOULLIER FUCKING CLOWN SHOULD BE SACKED
STILL NO NEW SIGNINGS, I HOPE WE GO DOWN, THAT WILL TEACH HIM!!!!!!
We should all protest at the next home match, self immolation like that monk in Vietnam.
Once you take the wingers, the inexperienced kids, the kids who have yet to play for the first team, the aged free agent Frenchman, the clearly out of favour and soon to be sold Stephen Ireland out of the equation, you get closer to the answer...You mean Petrov can't do it on his own?
Barton's not a target.
Anyone know whats happening Re. the Fofana deal? i thought it was as good as done, but its all gone quiet over there.....
I thought he failed his medical with a back problemAnyone know whats happening Re. the Fofana deal? i thought it was as good as done, but its all gone quiet over there.....
Price & wages seemed to be an issue
Thats what I heard toAnyone know whats happening Re. the Fofana deal? i thought it was as good as done, but its all gone quiet over there.....
Price & wages seemed to be an issue
Anyone know whats happening Re. the Fofana deal? i thought it was as good as done, but its all gone quiet over there.....
Price & wages seemed to be an issue
GH was good enough not to say he was a crock following this and said he had to weigh up wages and the youth of the squad and how many games he will play etc, as to not scupper either future chances to sign him, or his chances of going elsewhere.
So houllier lied? From reports it was too do with wages, where has it been mentioned about failing a medical?
Every time somebody mentions Fofana, my brain starts playing Flight of the conchords 'Foux da fafa'
Fees are not as important as the wage bill by the way it looks.
So Matt kendrick says he failed a medical and Houllier says it's to do with wages. In my eyes that means he wanted too much money for a young unproven teenager who plays in the french second tier.
In my eyes that means he wanted too much money for a young unproven teenager who plays in the french second tier.
Shrek, that is a woefully written re hash of articles over the last few days with a sensational headline.
We have a quote from Randy last summer saying the wages need to come down. Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock make up 10 million of that 70 million wage bill. Get them out and I think there is room for others to come in. Fees are not as important as the wage bill by the way it looks.
We have a quote from Randy last summer saying the wages need to come down. Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock make up 10 million of that 70 million wage bill. Get them out and I think there is room for others to come in. Fees are not as important as the wage bill by the way it looks.
The numbers involved in Premier league football are big numbers.
£70m in wages is a lot of money but the average wage bill in the Premier League was £65m.
£10m for Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock is a lot of money but we allocated more than £10m in Management Fees and Debt Interest payments to Reform Acquisitions Limited.
It's all relative.
For me, it says Hou wanted to protect a young French player by claiming money rather than fitness issues broke the deal.So Matt kendrick says he failed a medical and Houllier says it's to do with wages. In my eyes that means he wanted too much money for a young unproven teenager who plays in the french second tier.
For me it says he wanted too much money for a player trying to conceal a back problem.
We have a quote from Randy last summer saying the wages need to come down. Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock make up 10 million of that 70 million wage bill. Get them out and I think there is room for others to come in. Fees are not as important as the wage bill by the way it looks.
The numbers involved in Premier league football are big numbers.
£70m in wages is a lot of money but the average wage bill in the Premier League was £65m.
£10m for Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock is a lot of money but we allocated more than £10m in Management Fees and Debt Interest payments to Reform Acquisitions Limited.
It's all relative.
I spy with my little eye a not very subtle "Randy's taking money out of the club" argument.
Barton's not a target.
They have just said in commentary that Gold and Sullivan have made it clear that Parker leaves over their dead bodies .......trying to think of a down side to that deal ..... !!!
Rubbish rumour about Joe Lewis
http://astonvilla-views.com/2011/01/11/speculation-joe-lewis-avfc/
If @avfcisthebest is saying it then I'm worried.
If @avfcisthebest is saying it then I'm worried.No, Chris, that is Tim Abraham, the E&S Villa correspondent saying it to avfcisthebest
Gabby is looking pretty poor of late, and I cant help but wonder if there's an element of him thinking he's made it in the way he's performing, but I shall still be having a few quid on him scoring at Blues.
We have a quote from Randy last summer saying the wages need to come down. Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock make up 10 million of that 70 million wage bill. Get them out and I think there is room for others to come in. Fees are not as important as the wage bill by the way it looks.
The numbers involved in Premier league football are big numbers.
£70m in wages is a lot of money but the average wage bill in the Premier League was £65m.
£10m for Beye, Carew, Sidwell and Warnock is a lot of money but we allocated more than £10m in Management Fees and Debt Interest payments to Reform Acquisitions Limited.
It's all relative.
I spy with my little eye a not very subtle "Randy's taking money out of the club" argument.
From the guardian:
"Aston Villa appear unlikely to sign Joey Barton after being put off by the player's wage demands and Newcastle United's asking price.
Gérard Houllier was keen on bringing Barton to Anfield during his time in charge of Liverpool and has revived his interest in the midfielder since taking over at Villa. Barton, however, is earning £67,000 per week at St James' Park and it is also understood that Newcastle would want £6m for a player who will turn 29 later this year."
link (http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/jan/11/joey-barton-newcastle-aston-villa)
Phew, the best piece of news for ages!
Our learned friends on VT reporting we are in for Figueroa (sp?) from Wigan which could realease Warnock to go to Blackburn in exchange for SambaAlthough he is a journalist with a spectacular record for talking a load of bollocks.
The source being that Nixon guy on the Blackburn forum who is a journalist...
"Aston Villa appear unlikely to sign Joey Barton because they are not in fact interested in the twat"
Our learned friends on VT reporting we are in for Figueroa (sp?) from Wigan which could release Warnock to go to Blackburn in exchange for Samba
The source being that Nixon guy on the Blackburn forum who is a journalist...
Our learned friends on VT reporting we are in for Figueroa (sp?) from Wigan which could release Warnock to go to Blackburn in exchange for Samba
The source being that Nixon guy on the Blackburn forum who is a journalist...
Is that the lad who scored from the half way line last season?
I still CANNOT believe we're being tight pricks regarding Makoun's price. It's £1 million extra Lyon want, we're prepared to pay £6 million, is paying another million really going to put us into doom and gloom? Wind your fucking neck in Houllier and just stop being so immature. Why are you bidding for both Adam and Makoun? Do you realise how much of a joke you're gonna look like if you don't sign either one?What? You do realise that they're different types of players, yes?
I still CANNOT believe we're being tight pricks regarding Makoun's price. It's £1 million extra Lyon want, we're prepared to pay £6 million, is paying another million really going to put us into doom and gloom? Wind your fucking neck in Houllier and just stop being so immature. Why are you bidding for both Adam and Makoun? Do you realise how much of a joke you're gonna look like if you don't sign either one?
Our learned friends on VT reporting we are in for Figueroa (sp?) from Wigan which could release Warnock to go to Blackburn in exchange for Samba
The source being that Nixon guy on the Blackburn forum who is a journalist...
Is that the lad who scored from the half way line last season?
I think maybe so Chris, was it away at Stoke if memory serves me correctly. Which it rarely does these days!
Why are you bidding for both Adam and Makoun? Do you realise how much of a joke you're gonna look like if you don't sign either one?How else is our manager supposed to make it his team without going in for different types of midfielders, defenders etc? He needs players to suit his style.
I still CANNOT believe we're being tight pricks regarding Makoun's price. It's £1 million extra Lyon want, we're prepared to pay £6 million, is paying another million really going to put us into doom and gloom? Wind your fucking neck in Houllier and just stop being so immature. Why are you bidding for both Adam and Makoun? Do you realise how much of a joke you're gonna look like if you don't sign either one?Sorry, where are you picking these numbers from? I've not seen any decent source suggest that we even want Makoun.
"Still, whatever gets you pounding your fists into your keyboard..." I've got a clue what's going on in this transfer window, Lyon want £7 million and we're not prepared to pay an extra 1 million. There's numerous sources about this.I still CANNOT believe we're being tight pricks regarding Makoun's price. It's £1 million extra Lyon want, we're prepared to pay £6 million, is paying another million really going to put us into doom and gloom? Wind your fucking neck in Houllier and just stop being so immature. Why are you bidding for both Adam and Makoun? Do you realise how much of a joke you're gonna look like if you don't sign either one?Sorry, where are you picking these numbers from? I've not seen any decent source suggest that we even want Makoun.
Still, whatever gets you pounding your fists into your keyboard...
Houlier has confirmed we are in for him Dave.
Korean - how long do you think it takes to set up a full scouting network from scratch and start to gather enough targets to make it useful? I would imagine longer than 3 months, and we have been in for a 19 year old French lad no one had heard of really, and a similar one from Barca B, but both got injuredm so fell through and taken a guy from the MLS on loan, again who no one had heard of.
Houlier has confirmed we are in for him Dave.
Korean - how long do you think it takes to set up a full scouting network from scratch and start to gather enough targets to make it useful? I would imagine longer than 3 months, and we have been in for a 19 year old French lad no one had heard of really, and a similar one from Barca B, but both got injuredm so fell through and taken a guy from the MLS on loan, again who no one had heard of.
I accept the scouting point but I thought he already comes with contacts?
I thought he could use his contacts to get us some decent players in January. In fact I think quite a few people's last hopes on him as a manager were based on what he could bring in this January. We're over a 3rd of the way, with some serious f**king games coming up, could he not have lined these up?
As for the French kid, he failed the medical, could no one of said to Ged 'Listen up mate, his back is like a 50 year olds, give it a miss.'
Was it the mvila lad that failed the medical?
Houlier has confirmed we are in for him Dave.
Korean - how long do you think it takes to set up a full scouting network from scratch and start to gather enough targets to make it useful? I would imagine longer than 3 months, and we have been in for a 19 year old French lad no one had heard of really, and a similar one from Barca B, but both got injuredm so fell through and taken a guy from the MLS on loan, again who no one had heard of.
I accept the scouting point but I thought he already comes with contacts?
I thought he could use his contacts to get us some decent players in January. In fact I think quite a few people's last hopes on him as a manager were based on what he could bring in this January. We're over a 3rd of the way, with some serious f**king games coming up, could he not have lined these up?
As for the French kid, he failed the medical, could no one of said to Ged 'Listen up mate, his back is like a 50 year olds, give it a miss.'
Yeah. Probably instantly after medical.
Lets hope he bags a striker aswell as Makoun while he's out there because that should be the No 1 priorityStopping leaking goals should be our first priority. Our defensive performances have been absolutely shocking so far this season.
I still CANNOT believe we're being tight pricks regarding Makoun's price. It's £1 million extra Lyon want, we're prepared to pay £6 million, is paying another million really going to put us into doom and gloom? Wind your fucking neck in Houllier and just stop being so immature. Why are you bidding for both Adam and Makoun? Do you realise how much of a joke you're gonna look like if you don't sign either one?
Stopping leaking goals should be our first priority. Our defensive performances have been absolutely shocking so far this season.
Apparently its in relation to the Makoun deal.
Apparently its in relation to the Makoun deal.
Stands a chance but there are plenty of other reasons why he might be visiting his homeland. I just think that other site gets carried away inventing whole scenarios from minimal information.
Villa eye Wigan Duo (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6658573,00.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Not too sure about either of them to be honest.
Villa eye Wigan Duo (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6658573,00.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Not too sure about either of them to be honest.
Villa eye Wigan Duo (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6658573,00.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Not too sure about either of them to be honest.
I think they are both quality players, but the story could be bullshit.
I'd be surprised if Wigan were to let their 2 best players go, it would virtually guarantee their relegation.
I think that there some supporters who will not support Houllier no matter what he does, oh he hasn't got three world class players in yet, just proves how crap he is.
Villa eye Wigan Duo (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6658573,00.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)I think they are both quality players, but the story could be bullshit.
Not too sure about either of them to be honest.
I'd be surprised if Wigan were to let their 2 best players go, it would virtually guarantee their relegation.
Lets hope he bags a striker aswell as Makoun while he's out there because that should be the No 1 priorityStopping leaking goals should be our first priority. Our defensive performances have been absolutely shocking so far this season.
shame. if they'd offered what we paid i'd have took it.
Yes ... so why the big change?Lets hope he bags a striker aswell as Makoun while he's out there because that should be the No 1 priorityStopping leaking goals should be our first priority. Our defensive performances have been absolutely shocking so far this season.
We have the same defence as last year when it was often as tight as a nuns ***t
shame. if they'd offered what we paid i'd have took it.
For our player of the season? Mental.
Aston Villa move would interest Posh keeper Joe Lewis
Lewis has been attracting the attention of Premier League sides
Peterborough United goalkeeper Joe Lewis says he would be interested in a move to Aston Villa.
The 23-year-old, who has had a transfer request accepted by Posh, is eager to play at a higher level than League One.
When asked whether Villa would be a good club for him, Lewis responded: "Possibly, yes."
He told BBC Radio Cambridgeshire: "There's been Premier League scouts looking at me and other players, hopefully I can carry on impressing."
shame. if they'd offered what we paid i'd have took it.
For our player of the season? Mental.
Yakubu to Leicester.. Wouldnt expected that a season ago... hes gone shit pretty quick...
Lets hope he bags a striker aswell as Makoun while he's out there because that should be the No 1 priorityStopping leaking goals should be our first priority. Our defensive performances have been absolutely shocking so far this season.
We have the same defence as last year when it was often as tight as a nuns ***t
As if Sunderland approach us for our better players. Alright then, a straight swap for Darren Bent or A1 do one.
Villa striker search may have to wait
Villa boss Gerard Houllier has admitted his new striker search may have to wait until the summer as he attempts to land midfielders Jean Makoun and Charlie Adam.
The claret and blues have been linked with Monaco forward Dieumerci Mbokani and Tottenham striker Robbie Keane but, at this moment in time, it looks unlikely Houllier will move for either player in January.
But the manager is pressing ahead with deals for Lyon midfield general Makoun and Blackpool playmaker Adam, with offers on the table for the pair.
Both players are out of contract in 18 months time, although they will only be sold if the price is acceptable to both parties and it is understood neither player will join the club before Sunday’s Second City derby with Birmingham.
Houllier said: “It is true that Adam is a player we like. His passing is very good.
“Makoun could also be a good asset for us because he is experienced, he has played Champions League with Lille and Lyon and he is exactly what we need at times.
“He can play as a holding midfielder or as a box-to-box player. He can be both.
“We are working on it. There is dialogue going on at the moment.”
Houllier also intimated he is prepared to bide his time for a striker, in order to sign a player who matches a specific criteria rather than just bringing someone in for the sake of it.
He said: “If you say are you looking for a striker? I would say if the opportunity is there yes. But you don’t find them easily.
“Getting a striker itself is not a problem, it is mainly the type of striker that you want.
“We’re always looking for good players but we’re aware that when Emile Heskey’s not there, and John Carew, we’re struggling.”
Peterborough goalkeeper Joe Lewis is also on Houllier’s radar but, for the time being, the Villa boss is focusing on Sunday’s Second City derby with Birmingham at St Andrew’s.
He said: “I am excited about it. I think it is better to play Birmingham now.
“It’s a derby game and the players know that it’s a very important game for them, for their family and for the fans.
“If you are a Villa fan or a Villa player you know that this game is very important and probably more important than any other game.
“We will be up for it.”
I'd like to see Wiemann given a run if we aren't signing anyone
Lets hope he bags a striker aswell as Makoun while he's out there because that should be the No 1 priorityStopping leaking goals should be our first priority. Our defensive performances have been absolutely shocking so far this season.
We have the same defence as last year when it was often as tight as a nuns ***t
My understanding is the Collins was really brought as defensive cover rather than as a starter. Added to that, Warnock had a surprsingly good season (England squad and all that).
Therefore, I'm concerned that this year is the reality and last year was the illusion.
Think we have dodged bullets with Bridge and Adam. Both overweight slow players. Can't see how Adam would be suited to 442. a tidy footballer no doubt but he is a player that couldn't hack it in the SPL not too long ago don't forget. Bridge has been touched on by enough posters. We already have enough players that were decent 3 or 4 years ago we didn't need another one.
But the failure to make these deals happen is a clear sign that the managerial instability at the club naturally has prospective players and their agents wary. Considering we are in the relegation zone in mid January that is very worrying.
Gabby is looking pretty poor of late, and I cant help but wonder if there's an element of him thinking he's made it in the way he's performing, but I shall still be having a few quid on him scoring at Blues.
Nailed on, his record speaks for itself. What is it, seven games played, five scored?
Has cummings signed or is still on trial?
We need a striker. taking a hell of a risk waiting till the summer.
Has cummings signed or is still on trial?
Still on trial so doesn't bode well
File under Stas / Balaban / undsworth i suspect
Exactly what I thought.Imagine the moaning if we'd signed him up after a day !!Has cummings signed or is still on trial?
Still on trial so doesn't bode well
File under Stas / Balaban / undsworth i suspect
He's been here a week and a half on trial. Give him a chance.
Yakubu to Leicester.. Wouldnt expected that a season ago... hes gone shit pretty quick...
how long do u need to trial somebody ?You're probably right.
Surely you can tell fairly quickly
how long do u need to trial somebody ?
Surely you can tell fairly quickly
Not like Barry Fry to go for hyperbole.
shame. if they'd offered what we paid i'd have took it.
Good idea, in a relegation battlew so we sell our better players.
Might make sense to you but to me its lunacy and Houllier won't do it. Now selling wasters like sidwell, Carew, Beye, now that makes sense
For our player of the season? Mental.
thats not saying much even if you think that. Anyway i don't particularly want to sell him but we could cope without him i reckon. if it meant we had near 20m to spend to strengthen the rest of the team i'd consider it
Not like Barry Fry to go for hyperbole.
Not like Barry Fry to go for hyperbole.
The Sky cameras were at the ground for the Ferguson press conference and he isn't going to miss an opportunity like that to get his mug on TV is he?
Breaking News on SSN
david beckham resumes training with Tottenham
Following a blister scare !!
As the old football saying goes: "Alienate a striker, buy a striker."Because he was on fire before GH arrived, wasn't he?
how long do u need to trial somebody ?
Surely you can tell fairly quickly
Three particularly inappropriate comparisons: career-ending injury / £6m gamble / cuckolded husband whose wife couldn't bear the thought of living in the Midlands.Has cummings signed or is still on trial?
Still on trial so doesn't bode well
File under Stas / Balaban / undsworth i suspect
As the old football saying goes: "Alienate a striker, buy a striker."Because he was on fire before GH arrived, wasn't he?
Breaking News on SSN
david beckham resumes training with Tottenham
Following a blister scare !!
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/01/12/manual_133857.html
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/01/12/manual_133857.html
What is this for people like me who cannot access gambling websites at work ?
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/01/12/manual_133857.html
What is this for people like me who cannot access gambling websites at work ?
Gerard Houllier is hopeful of pushing through a deal to sign Lyon midfielder Jean Makoun.
The Villa boss is expected to fly out to France to speak to the Ligue 1 giants about completing a deal for a reported £6million.
Cameroon international Makoun, who has fallen out of favour at Les Gones, is expected to leave the club this month after making sporadic starts for the club this season.
The 27-year-old's contract expires in 2012 although Lyon will look to recoup some of the whopping £11million they paid for the athletic, defence-minded midfielder two years ago from Lille.
Houllier, who is well acquainted with Makoun, believes the player will fit in well at Villa Park.
"He could be a good asset for us because he is experienced, he has played Champions League with Lille and Lyon and he is exactly what we need at times," said Houllier.
"He can play as a holding midfielder or as a box-to-box player. He can be both. We are working on it. All you can say is there is dialogue going on at the moment."
With Villa leaving an improved £3.5 million bid on the table for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam, Houllier admitted the club were also in the market for a striker.
He said: "If you say: 'Are you looking for a striker?' I would say if the opportunity is there, yes, but you don't find them easily.
"Getting a striker itself is not a problem it is mainly the type of striker that you want.
"It depends on what's going to happen. I think John (Carew) will stay for the moment.
"We're always looking for good players, but we're aware that without Emile (Heskey) when he's not there, and John, we're struggling.
"But Gabby Agbonlahor can play and there's Nathan Delfouneso so with Emile and John we've got four."
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/11/01/12/manual_133857.html
What is this for people like me who cannot access gambling websites at work ?QuoteGerard Houllier is hopeful of pushing through a deal to sign Lyon midfielder Jean Makoun.
The Villa boss is expected to fly out to France to speak to the Ligue 1 giants about completing a deal for a reported £6million.
Cameroon international Makoun, who has fallen out of favour at Les Gones, is expected to leave the club this month after making sporadic starts for the club this season.
The 27-year-old's contract expires in 2012 although Lyon will look to recoup some of the whopping £11million they paid for the athletic, defence-minded midfielder two years ago from Lille.
Houllier, who is well acquainted with Makoun, believes the player will fit in well at Villa Park.
"He could be a good asset for us because he is experienced, he has played Champions League with Lille and Lyon and he is exactly what we need at times," said Houllier.
"He can play as a holding midfielder or as a box-to-box player. He can be both. We are working on it. All you can say is there is dialogue going on at the moment."
With Villa leaving an improved £3.5 million bid on the table for Blackpool midfielder Charlie Adam, Houllier admitted the club were also in the market for a striker.
He said: "If you say: 'Are you looking for a striker?' I would say if the opportunity is there, yes, but you don't find them easily.
"Getting a striker itself is not a problem it is mainly the type of striker that you want.
"It depends on what's going to happen. I think John (Carew) will stay for the moment.
"We're always looking for good players, but we're aware that without Emile (Heskey) when he's not there, and John, we're struggling.
"But Gabby Agbonlahor can play and there's Nathan Delfouneso so with Emile and John we've got four."
Peterborough's my local club, so I know all about Barry Fry, and the way he conducts himself. As for Joe Lewis, for such a perceived outstanding prospect he was picked up pretty easily by P'boro from Norwich, and he's been at Posh for a reasonable amount of time. I've seen him once or twice... both against Villa in pre-season friendlies. My best mate is a reasonable regular at Peterborough though, and doesn't think Lewis is all that... he's a good shot-stopper, great reflexes but for his height (6ft 7ins, I think) apparently he doesn't command his area well enough.Yeah some of the things I've seen Posh fans posting about him wouldn't fill me with confidence. Could well be targeted as a 2nd choice keeper though? Hopefully not first choice!
I wouldn't pay too much attention to Fry. There's a very well known story locally that after a cup match against Spurs last season (I think), he apparently walked into the Spurs dressing room to offer them Lewis, along the lines of 'you can have him for xxxx'.
One thing i've learned from what I could stand of the clip above is that American commentators sound even more moronic than some of our lot.
One thing i've learned from what I could stand of the clip above is that American commentators sound even more moronic than some of our lot.
Even more moronic than Clive Tyldesley?
Yeah some of the things I've seen Posh fans posting about him wouldn't fill me with confidence. Could well be targeted as a 2nd choice keeper though? Hopefully not first choice!
Fine in principle until you realise they have scored 9 goals in all competitions between them this season!
We're now linked with Rodellaga - he's scored a massive 18 goals in 72 appearances.....which to be fair is the same 1 in 4 ratio of Gabby (although to be fair to Gabby his ratio has improved season on season until this season..)
Westwood is a damn good shout for a new keeper for me.Widely regarded as the best keeper in the Championship.
Might as well offer Coventry £1m for Westwood whose out of contract at the end of the season and an international keeper for the republic of Ireland.
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loving all these offers we have supposed to have madeHave you smashed your caps lock beyond all repair?
adam
makoun
rodiella and the other guy
looking good
rodiella and the other guy
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ha ha ;-)
That is almost as good as this, my favourite animated gif.That made me laugh like a veritable drain.
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3909/mickmccarthy.gif)
That is almost as good as this, my favourite animated gif.That made me laugh like a veritable drain.
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3909/mickmccarthy.gif)
Very Funny that. Has anyone got that .gif of the goal we scored vs Bolton a few years back? Flowing move that Gabby finished off?That is almost as good as this, my favourite animated gif.That made me laugh like a veritable drain.
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3909/mickmccarthy.gif)
Thats the funniest thing I've seen in ages.
One thing i've learned from what I could stand of the clip above is that American commentators sound even more moronic than some of our lot.
Even more moronic than Clive Tyldesley?
Not quite, or Peter Drury.
rodiella and the other guy
so far, comfortably the worst spelling of Rodallega on this thread.
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
That is almost as good as this, my favourite animated gif.That made me laugh like a veritable drain.
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/3909/mickmccarthy.gif)
Thats the funniest thing I've seen in ages.
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
And coming from Castle Bromwich that's a very poor indictment of here !!
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Well feck off to another thread then, no?
BBC saying Stoke are after Curtis Davies.
FFS GH we need more midfielders about as much as Nick Clegg needs more critics. A striker a goalscorer a poacher a forward a finisher. Swap 50% of the club's midfielders for 1 or 2 of them.
Keeper wise I don't recall a game where Fulop has been playing and I have not thought he was a good keeper.I would refer the honourable gentleman to this match, from three days ago:
FFS GH we need more midfielders about as much as Nick Clegg needs more critics. A striker a goalscorer a poacher a forward a finisher. Swap 50% of the club's midfielders for 1 or 2 of them.
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Well feck off to another thread then, no?
Don't want to...this is my "home" forum just want better service. Is that too much to ask?
Yeah, that Carew shot went easily through him.
I'd look at getting Westwood in from Coventry, best keeper in the championship or maybe Al Habsi who Bolton will probably sell.
Or even give Guzan a run of games.
FFS GH we need more midfielders about as much as Nick Clegg needs more critics. A striker a goalscorer a poacher a forward a finisher. Swap 50% of the club's midfielders for 1 or 2 of them.
FFS GH we need more midfielders about as much as Nick Clegg needs more critics. A striker a goalscorer a poacher a forward a finisher. Swap 50% of the club's midfielders for 1 or 2 of them.
i disagree with you there dude, one of the reasons we're leaking so many goals is the fact the defence isn't getting much, if any protection from our light weight midfield
Yeah, that Carew shot went easily through him.
I'd look at getting Westwood in from Coventry, best keeper in the championship or maybe Al Habsi who Bolton will probably sell.
Or even give Guzan a run of games.
GH clearly doesn't fancy Guzan. I can see Peterbro's upset if we have offered GBP500K for a player they paid GBP600K & have since got into the England reckoning.
Ryan Babel I fucking hope not!
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/01/12/liverpools-unwanted-18m-trio-wanted-by-newcastle-united-aston-villa-and-valencia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+caughtoffside%2FSXbH+%28CaughtOffside.com%29
Ryan Babel I fucking hope not!
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/01/12/liverpools-unwanted-18m-trio-wanted-by-newcastle-united-aston-villa-and-valencia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+caughtoffside%2FSXbH+%28CaughtOffside.com%29
Links from places like that can usually be completely ignored.
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Well feck off to another thread then, no?
Don't want to...this is my "home" forum just want better service. Is that too much to ask?
So It's time for you to hit the streets and find something out for the rest of us...stop feeding off the forum and generate something interesting... rumour vampire
And how on earth are those three supposedly worth £18m between them?Ryan Babel I fucking hope not!
http://www.caughtoffside.com/2011/01/12/liverpools-unwanted-18m-trio-wanted-by-newcastle-united-aston-villa-and-valencia/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+caughtoffside%2FSXbH+%28CaughtOffside.com%29
Links from places like that can usually be completely ignored.
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Well feck off to another thread then, no?
Don't want to...this is my "home" forum just want better service. Is that too much to ask?
So It's time for you to hit the streets and find something out for the rest of us...stop feeding off the forum and generate something interesting... rumour vampire
OK just gathering my hat , coat, spy glasses ,bins, amplifier (for my hearing aid) flask full of tea and cheese sandwiches...I may be a little while!
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Well feck off to another thread then, no?
Don't want to...this is my "home" forum just want better service. Is that too much to ask?
So It's time for you to hit the streets and find something out for the rest of us...stop feeding off the forum and generate something interesting... rumour vampire
OK just gathering my hat , coat, spy glasses ,bins, amplifier (for my hearing aid) flask full of tea and cheese sandwiches...I may be a little while!
I'd swap the flask of tea for a hip flask of whiskey... That way if the jungle drums aren't beating and with your ear to the ground you still can't hear anything then you can just get pissed, creative and come back and report we're signing messi from £6m and NRC
Honestly all of you lot are completely useless. All this speculation and no sign of any player arriving. I thought this thread would have better ITK but no not a zilch. Having follwed this thread for 3 transfer windows I am not impressed!
Well feck off to another thread then, no?
Don't want to...this is my "home" forum just want better service. Is that too much to ask?
So It's time for you to hit the streets and find something out for the rest of us...stop feeding off the forum and generate something interesting... rumour vampire
OK just gathering my hat , coat, spy glasses ,bins, amplifier (for my hearing aid) flask full of tea and cheese sandwiches...I may be a little while!
Babel plays like a stroke victim trying to 'raise awareness'
Keeper wise I don't recall a game where Fulop has been playing and I have not thought he was a good keeper.I would refer the honourable gentleman to this match, from three days ago:
Chelsea 7-0 Ipswich (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/fa_cup/9341552.stm)
Think we have dodged bullets with Bridge and Adam. Both overweight slow players. Can't see how Adam would be suited to 442. a tidy footballer no doubt but he is a player that couldn't hack it in the SPL not too long ago don't forget. Bridge has been touched on by enough posters. We already have enough players that were decent 3 or 4 years ago we didn't need another one.
But the failure to make these deals happen is a clear sign that the managerial instability at the club naturally has prospective players and their agents wary. Considering we are in the relegation zone in mid January that is very worrying.
In which way is it a "clear sign"?
They can't really win, reading your post.
1. "The players are shit" - so we're approaching crap players.
and
2. "We can't sign them" - which isn't actually the case, as there's still plenty of transfer window left.
and
3. "The reason we haven't signed them yet is because of the instability at the club" - which you've decided without any actual evidence.
Think we have dodged bullets with Bridge and Adam. Both overweight slow players. Can't see how Adam would be suited to 442. a tidy footballer no doubt but he is a player that couldn't hack it in the SPL not too long ago don't forget. Bridge has been touched on by enough posters. We already have enough players that were decent 3 or 4 years ago we didn't need another one.
But the failure to make these deals happen is a clear sign that the managerial instability at the club naturally has prospective players and their agents wary. Considering we are in the relegation zone in mid January that is very worrying.
In which way is it a "clear sign"?
They can't really win, reading your post.
1. "The players are shit" - so we're approaching crap players.
and
2. "We can't sign them" - which isn't actually the case, as there's still plenty of transfer window left.
and
3. "The reason we haven't signed them yet is because of the instability at the club" - which you've decided without any actual evidence.
1 - yeah bar Makoun I havent been impressed with the players we have been closely linked with - Adam, Bridge, Figueroa - have you?
2 + 3 - when players are turning us down for West Ham it aint good whatever way you look at it.
Makoun has fantastic experience but by all accounts has been off the boil for some time at Lyon. Just hope the fans can be patient with him as it may not be until next season that we see the best of him. If he does sign I cant see a future for Reo Coker at the club really. Isnt Reo Coker free to speak with other clubs now anyway?
Think we have dodged bullets with Bridge and Adam. Both overweight slow players. Can't see how Adam would be suited to 442. a tidy footballer no doubt but he is a player that couldn't hack it in the SPL not too long ago don't forget. Bridge has been touched on by enough posters. We already have enough players that were decent 3 or 4 years ago we didn't need another one.
But the failure to make these deals happen is a clear sign that the managerial instability at the club naturally has prospective players and their agents wary. Considering we are in the relegation zone in mid January that is very worrying.
In which way is it a "clear sign"?
They can't really win, reading your post.
1. "The players are shit" - so we're approaching crap players.
and
2. "We can't sign them" - which isn't actually the case, as there's still plenty of transfer window left.
and
3. "The reason we haven't signed them yet is because of the instability at the club" - which you've decided without any actual evidence.
1 - yeah bar Makoun I havent been impressed with the players we have been closely linked with - Adam, Bridge, Figueroa - have you?
2 + 3 - when players are turning us down for West Ham it aint good whatever way you look at it.
Makoun has fantastic experience but by all accounts has been off the boil for some time at Lyon. Just hope the fans can be patient with him as it may not be until next season that we see the best of him. If he does sign I cant see a future for Reo Coker at the club really. Isnt Reo Coker free to speak with other clubs now anyway?
Ian Holloway says he will only let his captain leave for one of the country's top clubs. He said: "I want him to go to a club which is not struggling, it's always been my goal to get him to one of the top five or six clubs."
He also added that any club who think he is "only worth £3.5million" are "wasting their time".
Adam is like a poor mans Gareth Barry and a similar age. Why not try and get Gareth Barry ?
(runs for cover)
Holloway is this seasons Phil Brown!
Holloway is this seasons Phil Brown!
I said this last night and got rubbished for it !
UTV
The Doc
Off sick today, so crashed out on sofa and I got Sky Sports on the box "Were going live to White Hart Lane........."
I know others have mentioned this Beckham circus but this is ridiculous, there is nothing, NOTHING to report!
Holloway is this seasons Phil Brown!
I said this last night and got rubbished for it !
UTV
The Doc
Holloway is this seasons Phil Brown!
I said this last night and got rubbished for it !
UTV
The Doc
Thats rubbish that is, just rubbish.
I agree, although without the tan.
Going back to a story the other day, how on Earth is our wage bill more than Spurs?
Going back to a story the other day, how on Earth is our wage bill more than Spurs?
Being linked with Mark Van Bommel on Sky Transfer Centre!
If in any way true would surely mean Makoun is not a done deal?
I still think more will leave than sign this window, but thats not necessarily and bad thing.
Going back to a story the other day, how on Earth is our wage bill more than Spurs?
Being linked with Mark Van Bommel on Sky Transfer Centre!
If in any way true would surely mean Makoun is not a done deal?
I still think more will leave than sign this window, but thats not necessarily and bad thing.
No, as they're different players. Always been a player I've liked but he's 33 now. Maybe one last hurrah left in him.
Going back to a story the other day, how on Earth is our wage bill more than Spurs?
You utter, utter bastard.
Being linked with Mark Van Bommel on Sky Transfer Centre!
If in any way true would surely mean Makoun is not a done deal?
I still think more will leave than sign this window, but thats not necessarily and bad thing.
Bloody hell, throwing Mark van Bommel into our midfield for a derby game would wreak total, total havoc.
I like the idea.
Being linked with Mark Van Bommel on Sky Transfer Centre!
If in any way true would surely mean Makoun is not a done deal?
I still think more will leave than sign this window, but thats not necessarily and bad thing.
If Manchester United ring me up tomorrow and make me a realistic offer I might have to consider it but until them - dream on."
£3.5m does seem a bit low for a 25yo first team regular in the top half of the Prem.
He is quickly turning from entertaining manager from little club giving the big league what for
into a mouthy, rentaquote, love myself gobshite
Yes you have done really well, yes your team are playing some really good football and are upsetting a few of the established teams in the prem
But you are not Manu or Fergiscum - so shut the fuck up
£3.5m does seem a bit low for a 25yo first team regular in the top half of the Prem.
He is quickly turning from entertaining manager from little club giving the big league what for
into a mouthy, rentaquote, love myself gobshite
Yes you have done really well, yes your team are playing some really good football and are upsetting a few of the established teams in the prem
But you are not Manu or Fergiscum - so shut the fuck up
And by the way (without sounding too much like a Man u / Chelsea pretentious fan) ask any of your players if they would want to come to us and you know what the answer would be - so just agree a fee and lets get on with it please stop using it as a platform to promote yourself
They can't have many players who could command that kind of transfer fee.Well, they do have one other player in their ranks who once commanded a similar fee......
He is quickly turning from entertaining manager from little club giving the big league what for
into a mouthy, rentaquote, love myself gobshite
Yes you have done really well, yes your team are playing some really good football and are upsetting a few of the established teams in the prem
But you are not Manu or Fergiscum - so shut the fuck up
And by the way (without sounding too much like a Man u / Chelsea pretentious fan) ask any of your players if they would want to come to us and you know what the answer would be - so just agree a fee and lets get on with it please stop using it as a platform to promote yourself
They can't have many players who could command that kind of transfer fee.Well, they do have one other player in their ranks who once commanded a similar fee......
He is quickly turning from entertaining manager from little club giving the big league what for
into a mouthy, rentaquote, love myself gobshite
Yes you have done really well, yes your team are playing some really good football and are upsetting a few of the established teams in the prem
But you are not Manu or Fergiscum - so shut the fuck up
Hey, that's the next Villa manager you're talking about
But I don't like this: that in his post-match interview after the Southampton FA Cup match he bemoaned the lack of respect Saints fans showed his team by singing songs like "Premier League, 'avin' a larf...".
I don't mind Holloway. What he's doing now is desperately trying to hang on to his key player for the rest of the season, and trying to drive up his fee at the same time, knowing full well what the eventual outcome is going to be (whether it's to us or whoever).an amusing fella, but he is a bit of a hypocrite... his little rant about rooney and the likes, would have been fine, had he not done the dirty on plymouth argyle...
But I don't like this: that in his post-match interview after the Southampton FA Cup match he bemoaned the lack of respect Saints fans showed his team by singing songs like "Premier League, 'avin' a larf...". Then he publicly rubbishes pretty much every PL club outside the top 4. Where's the respect there?
Sky Transfer center had a spot said "Van Bommel to Villa " nothing more
...just popped over, and now main story.
Good player - nasty person
He is quickly turning from entertaining manager from little club giving the big league what for
into a mouthy, rentaquote, love myself gobshite
You lot are being Southwest-ist because you just can't understand what Olly says ;)
You lot are being Southwest-ist because you just can't understand what Olly says ;)
Oi! I's speaks lyke dat, I bin livin down ere so long now, I's understands Im fine I dus!
I don't buy the speaks his mind defence, Jeremy Clarkson speaks his mind but it doesn't stop him being an obnoxious areshole.
Holloway isn't in that league but his remarks after Southampton fans took the piss were churlish as were his threats to throw the dummy after playing a weakened team against us. Like the others you mention he's always looking to play the victim.
He is quickly turning from entertaining manager from little club giving the big league what for
into a mouthy, rentaquote, love myself gobshite
And it's started, remember when Blackpool got promoted and everybody was on here saying what a breath of fresh air Holloway would be and Dave W (I think)said that as soon as he said anything that might be deemed a dig at Villa people would soon change their minds.
Not me, I bloody love him, wish there were more managers like him and Phil Brown (yep, still like him), Mccarthy and Warnock who actually spoke their mind and didn't care who they pissed off. Imagine a Premiership full of the tedious, monotone cliched shite from the likes of Dalglish, Houllier etc.
Blackpool bid for Barnsley midfielder Adam hamill which suggests maybe they are expecting Adam to leave, whatever holloway may say.
Back to the subject of transfer speculation etc. I see Curtis is after a move to Stoke according to SSN when they are not drooling over Becks training.Wouldn't surprise me to see Arsenal bid for Davies. They desperately need centre-back cover and Wenger loved Davies when he was at West Brom.
Back to the subject of transfer speculation etc. I see Curtis is after a move to Stoke according to SSN when they are not drooling over Becks training.Wouldn't surprise me to see Arsenal bid for Davies. They desperately need centre-back cover and Wenger loved Davies when he was at West Brom.
Not a massive risk at £2m.
Can I just say that I like Jeremy Clarkson, but think Holloway is a gobshite.Clarkson is a ******.
Can I just say that I like Jeremy Clarkson, but think Holloway is a gobshite.Clarkson is a c***.
Anybody who wears Jeans and a suit jacket, deserves the highest of ridicule.
I don't buy the speaks his mind defence, Jeremy Clarkson speaks his mind but it doesn't stop him being an obnoxious areshole.
Holloway isn't in that league but his remarks after Southampton fans took the piss were churlish as were his threats to throw the dummy after playing a weakened team against us. Like the others you mention he's always looking to play the victim.
It isn't a 'defence'. I said I like him and the others because they speak their mind.
Just look at his words about Adam, how he wants to get him into one of the top sides not that the player could achieve it by himself bit needs him to sort it for him.
Clarkson is a c***.Not forgetting 'his controversial opinions...which he has... every week for money...in The Sunday Times'
Anybody who wears Jeans and a suit jacket, deserves the highest of ridicule.
His dress sense is of no interest to me. I do find him entertaining. Top Gear is a guilty pleasure.
In fact, I dont feel guilty, I just like it.
I don't think it's so much him as that Top gear programme.Clarkson is a c***.Not forgetting 'his controversial opinions...which he has... every week for money...in The Sunday Times'
Anybody who wears Jeans and a suit jacket, deserves the highest of ridicule.
Clarkson is a c***.Not forgetting 'his controversial opinions...which he has... every week for money...in The Sunday Times'
Anybody who wears Jeans and a suit jacket, deserves the highest of ridicule.
I don't think it's so much him as that Top gear programme.Clarkson is a c***.Not forgetting 'his controversial opinions...which he has... every week for money...in The Sunday Times'
Anybody who wears Jeans and a suit jacket, deserves the highest of ridicule.
I find talking about cars is as interesting as Dyson vacuum instructions.
Bloke's wanking themselves off over the 'Stig'
His dress sense is of no interest to me. I do find him entertaining. Top Gear is a guilty pleasure.
In fact, I dont feel guilty, I just like it.
Has anyone put pen to contract yet ???
Can I just say that I like Jeremy Clarkson, but think Holloway is a gobshite.Clarkson is a c***.
Anybody who wears Jeans and a suit jacket, deserves the highest of ridicule.
Clarkson's a difficult one and I also think he's a c***, but like him anyway.
Holloway is a cross between Dowie and Brown,
Any sign of us signing a striker?
Sign a striker? We'd have to spend some money, then.
Sign a striker? We'd have to spend some money, then.
We should be able to.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLlqDrcSYeQ/TJCMmXgMRCI/AAAAAAAACLE/dXk6lsNn__U/s400/2+Stoke+Transfers.jpg)
Holloway has had a real pop at U's about Adam hasn't he!What have Colchester Utd got to do with anything?
Can't understand all the fuss over Adam he's a championship player high on adrenalin having a good spell
Let Liverpool have him
Those figures are all very well but most of them clubs weren't/aren't spending 30-50k a week on the likes of Sidwell and Davies. Them two and Harewood cost us the best part of 18m, not even including the wages, and what do we get back for them? 3 and a bit million if we're lucky!! And then there's all the other rubbish we can't get rid of. Lunacy.
Adam is like a poor mans Gareth Barry and a similar age. Why not try and get Gareth Barry ?
(runs for cover)
Those figures are all very well but most of them clubs weren't/aren't spending 30-50k a week on the likes of Sidwell and Davies. Them two and Harewood cost us the best part of 18m, not even including the wages, and what do we get back for them? 3 and a bit million if we're lucky!! And then there's all the other rubbish we can't get rid of. Lunacy.
That's right, all the other teams in that table just pay the 11 players on the field. In fact, the Liverpool players just get bread and drippin'! If they're lucky!
Sign a striker? We'd have to spend some money, then.
We should be able to.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLlqDrcSYeQ/TJCMmXgMRCI/AAAAAAAACLE/dXk6lsNn__U/s400/2+Stoke+Transfers.jpg)
We've spent two of the last three season in the top two of that. Our chance was wasted, it's time to put the brakes on. Unless you'd rather gamble with the club's solvency?
Those figures are all very well but most of them clubs weren't/aren't spending 30-50k a week on the likes of Sidwell and Davies. Them two and Harewood cost us the best part of 18m, not even including the wages, and what do we get back for them? 3 and a bit million if we're lucky!! And then there's all the other rubbish we can't get rid of. Lunacy.
That's right, all the other teams in that table just pay the 11 players on the field. In fact, the Liverpool players just get bread and drippin'! If they're lucky!
we're nowhere near liverpools finances.. the majority of clubs like yer evertons and west hams and us can't afford a load of 50k a week squad players
well he obviously was, otherwise we'd be able to sell them instead of them sitting there running their contracts down because they don't want a pay drop
Benzema was playing for RM tonight against AM in the Cup but subbed after 65mins. They will probably loan him out now so time for us to move in and get him.Real Madrid have one fit striker at the club. Benzema.
So is mathswell he obviously was, otherwise we'd be able to sell them instead of them sitting there running their contracts down because they don't want a pay drop
Greg, 20:20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Two off the top of my head at Spurs, Bentley and Keane. Spurs are finding it easy to sell them aren't they? Squad players on at least 50k a week and how much did they cost?
Those figures are all very well but most of them clubs weren't/aren't spending 30-50k a week on the likes of Sidwell and Davies. Them two and Harewood cost us the best part of 18m, not even including the wages, and what do we get back for them? 3 and a bit million if we're lucky!! And then there's all the other rubbish we can't get rid of. Lunacy.
That's right, all the other teams in that table just pay the 11 players on the field. In fact, the Liverpool players just get bread and drippin'! If they're lucky!
we're nowhere near liverpools finances.. the majority of clubs like yer evertons and west hams and us can't afford a load of 50k a week squad players
Yes but the Special one does not rate him and played him in the Copa delrey tonight however never been selected to start a League or CL game this season.The "Special One"? Fuck me, it's as bad as Coopers Injury's "The Theatre Of Dreams". The "Special One" indeed. It's only one short step from that to Stevie G taking a peno.
Those figures are all very well but most of them clubs weren't/aren't spending 30-50k a week on the likes of Sidwell and Davies. Them two and Harewood cost us the best part of 18m, not even including the wages, and what do we get back for them? 3 and a bit million if we're lucky!! And then there's all the other rubbish we can't get rid of. Lunacy.
That's right, all the other teams in that table just pay the 11 players on the field. In fact, the Liverpool players just get bread and drippin'! If they're lucky!
we're nowhere near liverpools finances.. the majority of clubs like yer evertons and west hams and us can't afford a load of 50k a week squad players
So what was all that stuff about investing to compete for trophies and CL qualification? We were going to do it on Everton and West Ham wage costs?
Yes but the Special one does not rate him and played him in the Copa delrey tonight however never been selected to start a League or CL game this season.The "Special One"? Fuck me, it's as bad as Coopers Injury's "The Theatre Of Dreams". The "Special One" indeed. It's only one short step from that to Stevie G taking a peno.
Back to Benzema. How about his start against Villarreal four days ago? Or his start against Getafe in the league game before that? Or his start against Sevilla in the league game before that. Or his start against Zaragoza in the league game before that. Or his start against Auxerre in the Champions League in the game before that when he not only started but scored a hat-trick.
I'm really not sure it's worth me going any further back than that.
The fucking "Special One". I'm going to bed angry now.
Yes but the Special one does not rate him and played him in the Copa delrey tonight however never been selected to start a League or CL game this season.The "Special One"? Fuck me, it's as bad as Coopers Injury's "The Theatre Of Dreams". The "Special One" indeed. It's only one short step from that to Stevie G taking a peno.
Back to Benzema. How about his start against Villarreal four days ago? Or his start against Getafe in the league game before that? Or his start against Sevilla in the league game before that. Or his start against Zaragoza in the league game before that. Or his start against Auxerre in the Champions League in the game before that when he not only started but scored a hat-trick.
I'm really not sure it's worth me going any further back than that.
The fucking "Special One". I'm going to bed angry now.
Higuian is out for four months with a hernia, Jose has been told he cannot buy a striker, so Benzema is there main number 9 and is starting every game, so he isn't going anywhere.
Let's move on.
No, we are going to try it on Spurs wage costs, 11 million less than ours a season!
No, we are going to try it on Spurs wage costs, 11 million less than ours a season!
Not according to The Swiss Rambler website and he seems to know what he is on about.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLlqDrcSYeQ/TPZi9YgWqZI/AAAAAAAACmY/vxI_Y_YU7vM/s400/13%2BSpurs%2BWages%2BLeague.jpg)
West Ham are confident of pushing through a cut-price deal for Robbie Keane after emerging as favourites to sign the unsettled Tottenham striker.
Sportsmail can reveal the relegation-threatened Upton Park club are actively pursuing Keane and believe they can see off competition from Birmingham, Newcastle, Fulham, Aston Villa and even America's MLS to help him kick-start a career that has stalled in recent months.
With the 30-year old reluctant to uproot his family and in no mood to be dictated to by Tottenham over any decision on his future, West Ham chiefs are hoping to land him for barely half the £8million Birmingham were initially quoted.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1346939/Robbie-Keane-expected-join-West-Ham-Tottenham-cut-price-deal.html#ixzz1AxbNk4sl
No, we are going to try it on Spurs wage costs, 11 million less than ours a season!
Not according to The Swiss Rambler website and he seems to know what he is on about.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLlqDrcSYeQ/TPZi9YgWqZI/AAAAAAAACmY/vxI_Y_YU7vM/s400/13%2BSpurs%2BWages%2BLeague.jpg)
I'm thinking some kind of deal with, say, the Bahrain Potato Marketing Board
For 2009 ours was 70.5 and theirs 60.4 million. Yes they will have gone up about 10 million though revenue which was already 35 million more than us will have done too. Thankfully I think ours must be on the way down with the relief of 2 million a season from Sidwell and Milner, 1.5 million of Shorey, ditto Marlon, Davies out on loan and probably off, Warnock looking to be edging towards the door etc, but it has to come down a good 10-12 million for us to be sustainable at all. Carew, Warnock, Friedel, Luke Young, possibly Dunne, Reo Coker, Petrov, Ashley Young could all leave between now and the start of next season. Yes they will need replacements squad wise, but it the long term strategy is to operate more like Spurs, bringing through younger talent on lower wages with much higher sell on value, it is the sensible way to go. They are where they are in no small part to signing Defoe, Carrick, Keane, Berbatov etc young/ before they were established and selling them when they were in great form for huge fees. I would put money on them selling Bale for 30 million or so this summer. It sustains them and their model of delivery. Spurs will find a replacement if their player scouting is still up to scratch.
I would bet they could triple their money on Van Der Vaart, and make 15 times what they spent on Lennon.
Arsenal were the original leaders of it with Anelka, Petit and Overmars.
For 2009 ours was 70.5 and theirs 60.4 million. Yes they will have gone up about 10 million though revenue which was already 35 million more than us will have done too. Thankfully I think ours must be on the way down with the relief of 2 million a season from Sidwell and Milner, 1.5 million of Shorey, ditto Marlon, Davies out on loan and probably off, Warnock looking to be edging towards the door etc, but it has to come down a good 10-12 million for us to be sustainable at all. Carew, Warnock, Friedel, Luke Young, possibly Dunne, Reo Coker, Petrov, Ashley Young could all leave between now and the start of next season. Yes they will need replacements squad wise, but it the long term strategy is to operate more like Spurs, bringing through younger talent on lower wages with much higher sell on value, it is the sensible way to go. They are where they are in no small part to signing Defoe, Carrick, Keane, Berbatov etc young/ before they were established and selling them when they were in great form for huge fees. I would put money on them selling Bale for 30 million or so this summer. It sustains them and their model of delivery. Spurs will find a replacement if their player scouting is still up to scratch.
I would bet they could triple their money on Van Der Vaart, and make 15 times what they spent on Lennon.
Arsenal were the original leaders of it with Anelka, Petit and Overmars.
Please can the dance off be saved for a none school night? The Spurs wages debate in it's natural habitat of tight lycra and leg warmers, is simply one not to be missed, not just for the mere fact of needing to get up the next morning anyway.
It isn't about Villa and Spurs wage costs, It's about whether you should sell your best players each season and the reasons why a club turns a top 6 team into relegation candidates.
I'm fed up hearing about Randy spending £200m, he hasn't. He has invested in and placed debt upon Villa on the basis of a strategy designed to compete with another bunch of clubs who have have done the same, only on a bigger scale.
If you don't understand the numbers, you end up nodding sagely when the General posts that our wages are a problem that is unique to Villa.
If you don't understand the numbers, you end up nodding sagely when the General posts that our wages are a problem that is unique to Villa.The General said "our wages are a problem that is unique to Villa"?
Sign a striker? We'd have to spend some money, then.
We should be able to.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jLlqDrcSYeQ/TJCMmXgMRCI/AAAAAAAACLE/dXk6lsNn__U/s400/2+Stoke+Transfers.jpg)
We've spent two of the last three season in the top two of that. Our chance was wasted, it's time to put the brakes on. Unless you'd rather gamble with the club's solvency?
Would relegation have an impact on solvency ?
It isn't about Villa and Spurs wage costs, It's about whether you should sell your best players each season and the reasons why a club turns a top 6 team into relegation candidates.
I'm fed up hearing about Randy spending £200m, he hasn't. He has invested in and placed debt upon Villa on the basis of a strategy designed to compete with another bunch of clubs who have have done the same, only on a bigger scale.
If you don't understand the numbers, you end up nodding sagely when the General posts that our wages are a problem that is unique to Villa.
Sorry is someone nodding sagely. Are you trying to point out that people who have an opinion that the wages are actually stupidly highfor our turnover in comparison t a side who made the champions league on a wage bill of 10 million less, and have amassed a significantly better squad, and who for 3-4 seasons sold their best player each season to balance up the books. I simply don't agree with the theory that Randy should just keep dolling over money. It is not a recipe for a healthy club in the future.
If you don't understand the numbers, you end up nodding sagely when the General posts that our wages are a problem that is unique to Villa.The General said "our wages are a problem that is unique to Villa"?
Whats the update on Delph ????
Sunday - 12:30pm
Downing to makoun, makoun to benzema
benzema - through the legs of johnson
benzema again
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Sunday - 12:30pm
Downing to makoun, makoun to benzema
benzema - through the legs of johnson
benzema again
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
We can all dream ;D
Makoun to come in but not in time to play Sunday according to Matt Kendrick- source the Villa big-wigs.Maybe he wants a forklift as his transport but Randy declined...
Even just signing him should give folk a lift at the club.
I know, but we weren't the only club doing it. Just paying the going rate like everyone else. You make it sound like MON gave everyone 20k a week extra for a laugh.If we WERE paying the going rate, then surely there would have been a reasonable re-sale value?
Please can the dance off be saved for a none school night? The Spurs wages debate in it's natural habitat of tight lycra and leg warmers, is simply one not to be missed, not just for the mere fact of needing to get up the next morning anyway.
Please use correct apostrophes - 'its natural habitat ' not 'it's'.
I know, but we weren't the only club doing it. Just paying the going rate like everyone else. You make it sound like MON gave everyone 20k a week extra for a laugh.If we WERE paying the going rate, then surely there would have been a reasonable re-sale value?
The same resale value that everyone else in football is having to contend with. Bridge, Yakubu, Bentley all going on loan because the buying clubs won't pay what the selling clubs want or the wages. All I'm saying is it's not just us who bought players who couldn't take us that step further but we had to pay those wages at the time.While those examples are true, firstly Man City is a complete basket case, and profits / losses on signings don't matter a jot to them. The other two or exceptions rather than the rule. Barring Milner, and to a much lesser extent Knight, what signings during the MON era have come close to either maintaining or increasing their market value? I'm struggling to think of any. Downing, perhaps.
The same resale value that everyone else in football is having to contend with. Bridge, Yakubu, Bentley all going on loan because the buying clubs won't pay what the selling clubs want or the wages. All I'm saying is it's not just us who bought players who couldn't take us that step further but we had to pay those wages at the time.While those examples are true, firstly Man City is a complete basket case, and profits / losses on signings don't matter a jot to them. The other two or exceptions rather than the rule. Barring Milner, and to a much lesser extent Knight, what signings during the MON era have come close to either maintaining or increasing their market value? I'm struggling to think of any. Downing, perhaps.
Young?Apologies, yeah Young as well. Although even that is dropping by the day!
If we WERE paying the going rate, then surely there would have been a reasonable re-sale value?
Although there’s more chance of me having a threesome with Rachel Stevens and Keeley Hazell than Villa getting Benzema .
what signings during the MON era have come close to either maintaining or increasing their market value? I'm struggling to think of any. Downing, perhaps.
what signings during the MON era have come close to either maintaining or increasing their market value? I'm struggling to think of any. Downing, perhaps.
Although not a signing, I'd say the progress Gabby has made has vastly increased his transfer value.
I'd also add Collins to it and say that Delph, once back from injury fully, will more than pay for himself.
Plus, lets not forget some have been good for us and it's more age than lack of ability that will see us take a loss, such as Petrov and Carew.
As much as I liked MON, whenever you mention the signing of Marlon Harewood, the only response can be WTF, and it's very hard to justify it.
At a time when Randy's cheque book was relatively new, why we went out and bought this guy I'll never know, and then to compound it all by buying Emile 18 months later is something I'll never quite understand.
Both as honest as the day is long but not what we needed when we were trying to get into the top 4.
SSN Now, Harry giving update on BecksOhh, faulty hair dryer?
SSN Now, Harry giving update on Becksi got so excited about that, i dropped the remote trying to turn over from the cricket!
And the fact that we just beat Wigan to his signature said it all.
Klose would be a fantastic signing and should solve the striker problem. Although I think the board may now be wary of signing players over 30, this is the kind of player that would be good for the club on a relatively short term deal while we look for a younger long term prospect or bring Delfouneso and Wiemann through.
Van Bommel and Klose are the short term boost type signings that are ideal to mix in with the kids, both educationally and results wise. It is how Chelsea started with Gullit and Vialli, Spurs did it with Davids have got Gallas etc. Some older players with proven quality can be real gems. Got a couple like that I would be cnonfident of staying up with ease.And the that's the reason Phil Neville is being looked at by spurs as well. Been there and done it, whereas most of the rest of their squad haven't. Makes a lot of sense, so hopefully something will come to fruition. (Waits for someone to mention Pires).
if he starts Sunday and nabs the winner, he can go away as a bit of a hero!
He will start Risso, I am sure of it.
14 Jan. Time running out.Or more precisely there's still more time to go than has gone. You really enjoy the melodramatic, don't you?
He will bring Petrov in Chris, and Downing, but I think he will stick Pires in the Young role behind the forward.
14 Jan. Time running out.Or more precisely there's still more time to go than has gone. You really enjoy the melodramatic, don't you?
Some of the names being mentioned remind me the time Ellis produced his list of the top strikers in Europe. Lots of talk to pacify the masses but never any realistic possibility of us signing them.
So do I.He will bring Petrov in Chris, and Downing, but I think he will stick Pires in the Young role behind the forward.
Sorry Ozz, had forgotten about Young being out. I suppose that stands a chance but I really hope he doesn't.
Klose and van bommel are box office names and would give the club a huge lift and boost gates too but I can't really see them coming here- I wish they would though!Van Bommell 33 years old would want big wages, no not for me we need to get the average age down Freidel, Heskey, Petrov, Pirez !!!
I'd rather Bannan started than Pires.
I think GH is having a real go at bringing someone in and depending on their circumstances and finances one of them could arrive albeit on loan.
Sunday - 12:30pm
Downing to makoun, makoun to benzema
benzema - through the legs of johnson
benzema again
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Van Bommell 33 years old would want big wages, no not for me we need to get the average age down Freidel, Heskey, Petrov, Pirez !!!
Problem with MON was not just the silence or the wait , but the sheer predictability of who would arrive. If he was still here, you're right they'd be no indications but we'd all know he'd be camped outside Robbie Keane's house
Problem with MON was not just the silence or the wait , but the sheer predictability of who would arrive. If he was still here, you're right they'd be no indications but we'd all know he'd be camped outside Robbie Keane's house
I never thought he was as predictable as some did. I once asked someone if it was so obvious then tell us our next signing, to which I got some vague collection of clubs we'd be shopping from. For instance, I didn't see anyone predicting Keane until the papers first broke the story. Warnock and Cuellar were pretty much out of the blue, for example. His pattern of signings from Britain, and preferably the PL, was predictable, but exactly who he had his eye on was less so given his and the clubs refusal to comment and play the media game.
As it goes, I prefer Gezza's way of admitting interest without trying to do deals in the press. Maybe that's just as it's a refreshing chage from the last 4 years, but I feel less frustration waiting for the signings.
For such a supposedly predictable signing, we have never actually signed Robbie Keane.
The difference I think is with MON we weren't in the running at the beginning with half the players we should of been. These things have a wonderful way of coming out in the press and that just wasn't happening under MON. Not because he played his cards close to his chest but because he wouldn't even pick up the phone and enquire in the first place.
It is nice that Houllier is out and about and we're hearing about potential signings because at the very least it's showing intention and an ambition. I can't see us signing benzema even if just on loan in a million years but at least we've picked up the phone and spoken to someone about him. Because at least now we're in with a chance. A very slight chance but one none the less.
talksport talking that Warnock going to Liverpool ..
talksport talking that Warnock going to Liverpool ..
It's like a new signing.
talksport talking that Warnock going to Liverpool ..
According to SSN Makhoun has signed for £5mIt just says £5m fee agreed.
But I thought you had sources Juan Pablo.
For such a supposedly predictable signing, we have never actually signed Robbie Keane.
I know, when he hangs his boots up we ought to send him a Villa momento saying 'Almost a Villa star' !!
Wheres the Miguel and Defoe links this window? Disappointing.For such a supposedly predictable signing, we have never actually signed Robbie Keane.
I know, when he hangs his boots up we ought to send him a Villa momento saying 'Almost a Villa star' !!
possibly our most linked player over the last few years? what does everyone reckon?
I seem to always hear about us being linked with kalstrom every window as well
Although the women presenter on SSN did say he had signed, they corrected it to say only a fee had been agreed.
Keane took over from Benny McCarthy in the we will sign him one of the windows stakeslol, very good...
Keane took over from Benny McCarthy in the we will sign him one of the windows stakeslol, very good...
Keane took over from Benny McCarthy in the we will sign him one of the windows stakeslol, very good...
Who replaced Carlton Palmer who in turn replaced Steve Bull.
Keane took over from Benny McCarthy in the we will sign him one of the windows stakeslol, very good...
Who replaced Carlton Palmer who in turn replaced Steve Bull.
There's still a part of me that can't believe - and is disappointed that - we never signed Steve Bull
Oh the halcyon days when I really believed that Saviola was en route... brings a tear to the eye ='). £5m for Makoun last I heard we were talking £6.5, there must be some fearsome add ons with that fee. So if whatsisname is right we'll be spending another £5mill+, excellent good news.
Georgie Thompson looks like she's had a hard night :P
Georgie Thompson looks like she's had a hard night :P
Good news. I knew whoever posted that dodgy link trying to troll saying Makoun was staying with Lyon wasn't really true... still thought we'd sign him.I'd wait until the deal was done rather than making accusations of trolling, if I was you.
Good news. I knew whoever posted that dodgy link trying to troll saying Makoun was staying with Lyon wasn't really true... still thought we'd sign him.I'd wait until the deal was done rather than making accusations of trolling, if I was you.
I don't know how reliable L'equipe are for news but they've been around a lot longer than the likes of Caught Offside, who BBC keep using as a news source.
But in the words of Mnsr H :Maybe so, DrGonzo. My point was about unnecessary accusations of trolling.
Houllier said: "We have had some very positive talks with the club (Lyon), with the player and his representative.
"I hope to be able to say more soon but for the moment nothing is signed.
"But it is going on positively and he (Makoun) should have a medical in the next day or so. "
straight up dave? hope it who i think it iswho is that
Seems a bit strange of how they write something saying Makoun is staying at Lyon then less than 24 hours later it's confirmed we've had our bid accepted with the medical being done soon.Good news. I knew whoever posted that dodgy link trying to troll saying Makoun was staying with Lyon wasn't really true... still thought we'd sign him.I'd wait until the deal was done rather than making accusations of trolling, if I was you.
I don't know how reliable L'equipe are for news but they've been around a lot longer than the likes of Caught Offside, who BBC keep using as a news source.
I've been hearing a rumour of a very big bid for a striker who would be up there in the Collymore when we signed him eyebrow-raising 'fuck, they mean business' category.Benzema?
The article said Villa and Makoun were a long way apart. Not on the transfer fee, not on medical concerns. But on the salary (or if you want to use the anglicisation of it, personal terms) - the one bit you've not mentioned.Seems a bit strange of how they write something saying Makoun is staying at Lyon then less than 24 hours later it's confirmed we've had our bid accepted with the medical being done soon.Good news. I knew whoever posted that dodgy link trying to troll saying Makoun was staying with Lyon wasn't really true... still thought we'd sign him.I'd wait until the deal was done rather than making accusations of trolling, if I was you.
I don't know how reliable L'equipe are for news but they've been around a lot longer than the likes of Caught Offside, who BBC keep using as a news source.
Yeah, that was before the fee had been agreed though, I doubt Lyon would agree a fee with a club Makoun has already made up his mind about i.e. his salary. Normally negotiations break down with salaries after the fee has been agreed, we wouldn't put in a bid for Makoun in the first place if we think we couldn't match his requirements with his salary.The article said Villa and Makoun were a long way apart. Not on the transfer fee, not on medical concerns. But on the salary (or if you want to use the anglicisation of it, personal terms) - the one bit you've not mentioned.Seems a bit strange of how they write something saying Makoun is staying at Lyon then less than 24 hours later it's confirmed we've had our bid accepted with the medical being done soon.Good news. I knew whoever posted that dodgy link trying to troll saying Makoun was staying with Lyon wasn't really true... still thought we'd sign him.I'd wait until the deal was done rather than making accusations of trolling, if I was you.
I don't know how reliable L'equipe are for news but they've been around a lot longer than the likes of Caught Offside, who BBC keep using as a news source.
The article didn't say anything about him having already made up his mind. It said Villa and Makoun disagreed (or were along way apart) on the player's wages.Yeah, that was before the fee had been agreed though, I doubt Lyon would agree a fee with a club Makoun has already made up his mind about i.e. his salary. Normally negotiations break down with salaries after the fee has been agreed, we wouldn't put in a bid for Makoun in the first place if we think we couldn't match his requirements with his salary.The article said Villa and Makoun were a long way apart. Not on the transfer fee, not on medical concerns. But on the salary (or if you want to use the anglicisation of it, personal terms) - the one bit you've not mentioned.Seems a bit strange of how they write something saying Makoun is staying at Lyon then less than 24 hours later it's confirmed we've had our bid accepted with the medical being done soon.Good news. I knew whoever posted that dodgy link trying to troll saying Makoun was staying with Lyon wasn't really true... still thought we'd sign him.I'd wait until the deal was done rather than making accusations of trolling, if I was you.
I don't know how reliable L'equipe are for news but they've been around a lot longer than the likes of Caught Offside, who BBC keep using as a news source.
Hopefully this goes through.
if he starts Sunday and nabs the winner, he can go away as a bit of a hero!
Starting Pires on Sunday would be suicidal.
I hope it's Harewood.
Blose have agreed a 6m quid fee for Robbie Keane and according to the BBC and Sky it looks like it is going through!Doubtless everybody who said he was great on here (he's not, he's a busted flush) will say
I think players are going to hold on signing for villa at present and see if you come through this rocky patch with G.H. intact...thats what agents will be telling there players anyway....Your joking are'nt you? Since when have agents had their players best interests at heart?
I think players are going to hold on signing for villa at present and see if you come through this rocky patch with G.H. intact...thats what agents will be telling there players anyway....
Can't remember anyone claiming Keane was great, I think most on here would prefer someone else to Keane.Blose have agreed a 6m quid fee for Robbie Keane and according to the BBC and Sky it looks like it is going through!Doubtless everybody who said he was great on here (he's not, he's a busted flush) will say
'Ah, he's shite anyway.'
I think players are going to hold on signing for villa at present and see if you come through this rocky patch with G.H. intact...thats what agents will be telling there players anyway....Right. Now we have the Villa sorted can you explain why your lot are made up of loanees and Villa rejects?
Think the mystery striker is Horrauo. Houllier was in Paris. Would be excellent ......
Considering they still stay Lewis is a target I think it's fair to take that report with a fair pinch of salt.Think the mystery striker is Horrauo. Houllier was in Paris. Would be excellent ......
It's Klose
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/
Hey sheldon don't you have any fans on your forum to chat to? If so ask them why struggling old Aston villa can sign top quality like jean makoun while you are being rejected by that reject himself kenny miller- small time club and small time fans!haha this makoun fella (who ive never heard of by the way)will he be making his debut sunday?
We can and always will attract class players because we have and always will be the only team in the midlands worth playing for!
I am absolutely amazed that Houllier isn't looking at signing a striker.
He has 'relegation' tattooed on his forehead if you ask me.
Hey sheldon don't you have any fans on your forum to chat to?I think most of them are still trying to find the switch to turn on the internets.
I am absolutely amazed that Houllier isn't looking at signing a striker.
He has 'relegation' tattooed on his forehead if you ask me.
What if the mystery striker is not Benzema? What if Houllier is just playing his cards close to his chest or trying not to raise peoples hopes?
Never heard of half your team... oh wait, yes I do, they used to play for Villa but were sold because they weren't good enough. We're like the Kings and you're the peasants feeding off our scraps.Hey sheldon don't you have any fans on your forum to chat to? If so ask them why struggling old Aston villa can sign top quality like jean makoun while you are being rejected by that reject himself kenny miller- small time club and small time fans!haha this makoun fella (who ive never heard of by the way)will he be making his debut sunday?
We can and always will attract class players because we have and always will be the only team in the midlands worth playing for!
Oh man, if we sign Klose that would be fantastic - exactly the type of striker we need. I understand our current situation in the league isn't looking great but if we could sign a player of Klose's calibre I have no doubt we could really turn our season around completely. I do wish Real Madrid would just fuck off, they're equally annoying as Man $hitty just signing everyone and then leaving them on the bench when there are clubs who genuinely need players rather than Real and Citeh just having them as prized possesions.hahhahahahahha klose???ffs get real.......
How bitter would those noses be if we sign a world class striker.
Well he's no Robbie Keane, thats 4 sure.Oh man, if we sign Klose that would be fantastic - exactly the type of striker we need. I understand our current situation in the league isn't looking great but if we could sign a player of Klose's calibre I have no doubt we could really turn our season around completely. I do wish Real Madrid would just fuck off, they're equally annoying as Man $hitty just signing everyone and then leaving them on the bench when there are clubs who genuinely need players rather than Real and Citeh just having them as prized possesions.hahhahahahahha klose???ffs get real.......
How bitter would those noses be if we sign a world class striker.
Thats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...Better than smelling you!
Thats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...This is a transfer and rumour thread, we talk about, discuss and bitch over players were linked too, just so happens we've been linked too Klose and Benzema so naturally it'll be discussed, however unlikely it is to happen
Thats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...
Benzema has already said he would be happy to join villa if houllier wants himNo he hasn't.
Thats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...You really are a bitter little bluenose, aren't you? I can see straight through you and what your motives are. Wake up and smell the coffee? That your club is an embarrassment to the city of Birmingham, have and always be in our shadow, you have scummy chavvy fans and that we're the 4th most successful club in England? Yep, I certainly have woke up and smelt the coffee.
Thats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...
£6 million for a 31 year old Keane? No thanks.
Thats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...You really are a bitter little bluenose, aren't you? I can see straight through you and what your motives are. Wake up and smell the coffee? That your club is an embarrassment to the city of Birmingham, have and always be in our shadow, you have scummy chavvy fans and that we're the 4th most successful club in England? Yep, I certainly have woke up and smelt the coffee.
We've finished in the top 6 in the best league in the world for the last 3 years and we're a big club, why can't we sign Klose if we want to? I don't see it stopped Tottenham going on spending splurges for a couple of years when they were a laughing stock. I'm from Birmingham, I know what is the general consensous regarding both clubs and the lies your fans spread is actually quite disturbing. Enjoy gloating for now, we've been doing it for 130 years son.
I shouldn't respond to you, but you really need the record put straight because you are seriously deluded when talking about Villa. You like to think you know everything all Villa, why is this? Closet Villa fan you're.
Despite us being in the shit right now I can still say I'm proud to be a Villa fan whereas the same can't be said for you, you might as well support Kidderminster Harriers as they're about as relevant as Birmingham City are.
(congrats if you've been able to read the whole post btw)
no i aint a trollThats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...
If you can cream yourself over Robbie Keane and David Bentley, we should be aiming for better, on account we are far. far bigger club than Blue haver aspired to be.
Your true colours are starting to come out, you are a troll and I am not fooled for a second and have not been from the start.
Moose_talkSPORTIreland,beye and 7 million should do it.(if true).
Ian Abrahams
Information I have received would suggest that Andy Carroll (my new mate) could leave Newcastle in this transfer window
yeh nailed on FFSMoose_talkSPORTIreland,beye and 7 million should do it.(if true).
Ian Abrahams
Information I have received would suggest that Andy Carroll (my new mate) could leave Newcastle in this transfer window
Problem with MON was not just the silence or the wait , but the sheer predictability of who would arrive. If he was still here, you're right they'd be no indications but we'd all know he'd be camped outside Robbie Keane's house
I never thought he was as predictable as some did. I once asked someone if it was so obvious then tell us our next signing, to which I got some vague collection of clubs we'd be shopping from. For instance, I didn't see anyone predicting Keane until the papers first broke the story. Warnock and Cuellar were pretty much out of the blue, for example. His pattern of signings from Britain, and preferably the PL, was predictable, but exactly who he had his eye on was less so given his and the clubs refusal to comment and play the media game.
As it goes, I prefer Gezza's way of admitting interest without trying to do deals in the press. Maybe that's just as it's a refreshing chage from the last 4 years, but I feel less frustration waiting for the signings.
I wasn't being serious,if I was I would have said 20 million.yeh nailed on FFSMoose_talkSPORTIreland,beye and 7 million should do it.(if true).
Ian Abrahams
Information I have received would suggest that Andy Carroll (my new mate) could leave Newcastle in this transfer window
I thought he was staggeringly predictable towards the end mainly because he dealt in such a self-imposed restricted market. you could always get it down to 2 or 3 possible players in any position because there was only that many he'd consider that were available. It was rather like a simplistic version of that kids game from the 70's where you had to knock down 50 odd cartoon faces by asking your opponent questions about them. you can still play the MON version now in fact.....
"Is he a striker?" Yes
*knocks down 40 foreign based players*
"Does he play in scotland?" No
*knocks down another 4*
*is he getting on a bit?" yes
*knocks down another 4*
"hmmm......has he ever played in scotland?" yes
*knocks down michael owen*
"is it robbie keane?"
Simples.
More delights from the manager of Blackpool:
‘I want him to go to a strong club with a strong manager who loves him and where he will be able to win things, not some half-arsed place that used to be famous and the manager is on a dodgy wicket. I’m going to work him into one of the top six clubs. What if Liverpool came in for him? They wouldn’t have enough money to buy him.'
some half-arsed place that used to be famous and the manager is on a dodgy wicket
Problem with MON was not just the silence or the wait , but the sheer predictability of who would arrive. If he was still here, you're right they'd be no indications but we'd all know he'd be camped outside Robbie Keane's house
I never thought he was as predictable as some did. I once asked someone if it was so obvious then tell us our next signing, to which I got some vague collection of clubs we'd be shopping from. For instance, I didn't see anyone predicting Keane until the papers first broke the story. Warnock and Cuellar were pretty much out of the blue, for example. His pattern of signings from Britain, and preferably the PL, was predictable, but exactly who he had his eye on was less so given his and the clubs refusal to comment and play the media game.
As it goes, I prefer Gezza's way of admitting interest without trying to do deals in the press. Maybe that's just as it's a refreshing chage from the last 4 years, but I feel less frustration waiting for the signings.
I thought he was staggeringly predictable towards the end mainly because he dealt in such a self-imposed restricted market. you could always get it down to 2 or 3 possible players in any position because there was only that many he'd consider that were available. It was rather like a simplistic version of that kids game from the 70's where you had to knock down 50 odd cartoon faces by asking your opponent questions about them. you can still play the MON version now in fact.....
"Is he a striker?" Yes
*knocks down 40 foreign based players*
"Does he play in scotland?" No
*knocks down another 4*
*is he getting on a bit?" yes
*knocks down another 4*
"hmmm......has he ever played in scotland?" yes
*knocks down michael owen*
"is it robbie keane?"
Simples.
only because he left
only because he left
Oh of course, you must be right then!
a hat?only because he left
Oh of course, you must be right then!
you're making out as if i'm claiming some magical power. It's not rocket science john. if you know someone is going to buy shoes and he only shops in one store then its not too much of a stretch to work out what he's going to buy
only because he left
Oh of course, you must be right then!
you're making out as if i'm claiming some magical power. It's not rocket science john. if you know someone is going to buy shoes and he only shops in one store then its not too much of a stretch to work out what he's going to buy
no i aint a trollThats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...
If you can cream yourself over Robbie Keane and David Bentley, we should be aiming for better, on account we are far. far bigger club than Blue haver aspired to be.
Your true colours are starting to come out, you are a troll and I am not fooled for a second and have not been from the start.
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
Check Mate.His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
Fair's fair, though, what utter fucking mug would swap Carew for Milan Fucking Baros.
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
Fair's fair, though, what utter fucking mug would swap Carew for Milan Fucking Baros.
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
Fair's fair, though, what utter fucking mug would swap Carew for Milan Fucking Baros.
mebbe but he's still knocking the goals in unlike carew
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...Sorry, I thought you'd decided you were leaving?
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
Fair's fair, though, what utter fucking mug would swap Carew for Milan Fucking Baros.
mebbe but he's still knocking the goals in unlike carew
Stick Carew in the Turkish league and see what happens.
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
No, I never said that. What I said was I disagree with the notion it was predictable who, admittedly 99% of the time would be from Britain, he'd go for just because some posters would say after it happened "I knew he'd do that." To which you retorted by the example of a player we didn't actually sign.
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
No, I never said that. What I said was I disagree with the notion it was predictable who, admittedly 99% of the time would be from Britain, he'd go for just because some posters would say after it happened "I knew he'd do that." To which you retorted by the example of a player we didn't actually sign.
you're missing the point john. Once he's decided to go british only, there's only 3 or 4 players it could be. The rest are too expensive, won't join us or are too shit. that was why he was so predictable
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
No, I never said that. What I said was I disagree with the notion it was predictable who, admittedly 99% of the time would be from Britain, he'd go for just because some posters would say after it happened "I knew he'd do that." To which you retorted by the example of a player we didn't actually sign.
you're missing the point john. Once he's decided to go british only, there's only 3 or 4 players it could be. The rest are too expensive, won't join us or are too shit. that was why he was so predictable
I'm not missing, I just don't agree with it.
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...Sorry, I thought you'd decided you were leaving?
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...Sorry, I thought you'd decided you were leaving?
i just said id pop in for news. id happily come back and prove you all right again if you want... but like holloway is tonight...
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...Sorry, I thought you'd decided you were leaving?
i just said id pop in for news. id happily come back and prove you all right again if you want... but like holloway is tonight...
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...Sorry, I thought you'd decided you were leaving?
i just said id pop in for news. id happily come back and prove you all right again if you want... but like holloway is tonight...
I thought the club confirmed the Rodallega and Figueroa links were bogus?
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
No, I never said that. What I said was I disagree with the notion it was predictable who, admittedly 99% of the time would be from Britain, he'd go for just because some posters would say after it happened "I knew he'd do that." To which you retorted by the example of a player we didn't actually sign.
you're missing the point john. Once he's decided to go british only, there's only 3 or 4 players it could be. The rest are too expensive, won't join us or are too shit. that was why he was so predictable
I'm not missing, I just don't agree with it.
well try it yourself. name 10 strikers we could sign from the premiership who would be better than we have? I reckon you'll get 3 or 4.
well ignoring that some of them would maybe be out of our price range and remember how MON liked to play. Now tell me who would be up the top of your list as someone MON would go for?
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU CAN NOW READ MON'S MIND AS WELL AS ME! PASS GO AND COLLECT £500 POUNDS
well ignoring that some of them would maybe be out of our price range and remember how MON liked to play. Now tell me who would be up the top of your list as someone MON would go for?
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU CAN NOW READ MON'S MIND AS WELL AS ME! PASS GO AND COLLECT £500 POUNDS
What's our price range?
well ignoring that some of them would maybe be out of our price range and remember how MON liked to play. Now tell me who would be up the top of your list as someone MON would go for?
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU CAN NOW READ MON'S MIND AS WELL AS ME! PASS GO AND COLLECT £500 POUNDS
well ignoring that some of them would maybe be out of our price range and remember how MON liked to play. Now tell me who would be up the top of your list as someone MON would go for?
CONGRATULATIONS! YOU CAN NOW READ MON'S MIND AS WELL AS ME! PASS GO AND COLLECT £500 POUNDS
I see, so you're saying now that they would also have to be in line with our style and the the type of striker he liked? So from the pattern of John Carew, Marlon Heskey and then Emile Heskey you got to............................Robbie Keane?
Anyone else think Adam has told rentagob he wants to speak to us hence the slagging off.
Yep. Looks to me like the bid's good for the club and the players happy to talk. But the managers frustrated because the club can't match his ambition (demanding a high price/refusing to let him go).
That quote is massively disrespectful and just shows what a hypocrite he is. Although it looks like it's more aimed at Liverpool to me...
no i aint a trollThats the best laugh ive had in ages.....klose?as if hes going to sign for villa and benzema,these type of players want european football ffs....come on wake up and smell the coffee...
If you can cream yourself over Robbie Keane and David Bentley, we should be aiming for better, on account we are far. far bigger club than Blue haver aspired to be.
Your true colours are starting to come out, you are a troll and I am not fooled for a second and have not been from the start.
If we are going to start calling Sheldon Nose a troll how about we do the same to some of the "Villa" fans that we have on here too? And believe me there are 4/5 that are a lot worse than our Blues supporting member is. (Who, I'd like to point out I don't think is trolling).
We've have a few non-Villa supporting members on this forum (Sendo, the Stokies) who, if they said what Sheldon had said, would be laughed off as banter - just because Sheldon happens to support Birmingham doesn't mean he should be treated any differently to how they are treated.
A lot of people are quick to come out with comments about how they wish there was none of the trouble we get whenever Villa and Blues play each other, but as soon as a Blues fan joins the board who actually wants to take part in some of the debates and comes across as a genuine football fan he gets called all the c***s under the Sun. Would you be saying that if it was a friend of yours and you were having this sort of debate with him down the pub?
This isn't a dig at you Ozz, as you are not the only one who has commented about Sheldon in this way.
Fundamental difference there is that Sendo and a few of the Stoke lot talk a bit of sense. That Sheldon Nose character sounds like a complete arse.
The word on the street is quite interesting. If nothing changes -and things can always change, though it is unlikely at this point - a solid player is on his way. I never can read the fans, but I would expect this one to be a popular choice...
Inter Milan are lining up a £17m summer bid for Manchester City's 29-year-old midfielder Gareth Barry.
Would you then - Ireland +£5m for Bent? If both were on-form I'd rather have our mad hatter. A real shame Houllier couldn't get his head right.
His record speaks for itself. no major buys from abroad. only 3 in total, 1 of which was swap approach from another club. still if you think MON would have been abroad searching for strikers this transfer window fair enough
Fair's fair, though, what utter fucking mug would swap Carew for Milan Fucking Baros.
mebbe but he's still knocking the goals in unlike carew
Stick Carew in the Turkish league and see what happens.
Would you then - Ireland +£5m for Bent? If both were on-form I'd rather have our mad hatter. A real shame Houllier couldn't get his head right.
Eh? Both on form I want one of the most prolific strikers in the league please.
just realised its houllier who swapped baros for carew.... how my bollocks hurt from laughing...Sorry, I thought you'd decided you were leaving?
i just said id pop in for news. id happily come back and prove you all right again if you want... but like holloway is tonight...
is this confirmed?No
My mate txt me to tell me, Im just trying to find out where he got it fromMaybe it was from here
On BBC
Aston Villa are stepping up their efforts to sign Wigan left-back Maynor Figueroa after the club allowed Stephen Warnock to return to Liverpool on loan.
So that leaves us with a young centre half as our only option at left back?
Manchester City will allow Shay Given to leave Eastlands, but only if they can find a replacement.
I assume they will be paying his wages if he does goDepends on the terms of the loan deal
SSN (for what that's worth) reporting Warnock has gone to Liverpool on loan until the end of the season.... See ya then.
So that leaves us with a young centre half as our only option at left back?
I would say someone is lined up maybe Maynor Figueroa
well we have Luke Young and im sure Lichaj can play there too
The word on the street is quite interesting. If nothing changes -and things can always change, though it is unlikely at this point - a solid player is on his way. I never can read the fans, but I would expect this one to be a popular choice...
The word on the street is quite interesting. If nothing changes -and things can always change, though it is unlikely at this point - a solid player is on his way. I never can read the fans, but I would expect this one to be a popular choice...
I pictured Huggy Bear when reading that post.
So that leaves us with a young centre half as our only option at left back?
I would say someone is lined up maybe Maynor Figueroa
QuoteManchester City will allow Shay Given to leave Eastlands, but only if they can find a replacement.
Swap for Brad Freidel I say
QuoteInter Milan are lining up a £17m summer bid for Manchester City's 29-year-old midfielder Gareth Barry.
Yes. Of course they are.
If the Villa sign Bent we won't go down. I personally think when you look at the clubs he has been at and the goals he has scored, there are precious few goalscorers better in the league, especially considering how consistent he has been. There is sweet FA chance of it happening though.
If Warnock is toddling off back to Liverpool, does that mean the road is clear to sign Figueroa?
Oh, and Nicky Shorey is an absolute twat, I cant let an opportunity to mention it pass.
Pelty what have you done? always appreciated your input but you're doing what an ex female acquaintance used to do, you are a tease sir.
Pelty what have you done? always appreciated your input but you're doing what an ex female acquaintance used to do, you are a tease sir.
You are right, Robbo. Sorry to be coy. I was just pretty excited and wanted to say something. In hindsight, I should have let it play out and kept quiet. Sorry about that...
Pelty what have you done? always appreciated your input but you're doing what an ex female acquaintance used to do, you are a tease sir.
You are right, Robbo. Sorry to be coy. I was just pretty excited and wanted to say something. In hindsight, I should have let it play out and kept quiet. Sorry about that...
Gobshites have had 6 mill offer for keane accepted. I think if a striker is not close to signing we would of signed him instead
QuoteManchester City will allow Shay Given to leave Eastlands, but only if they can find a replacement.
Swap for Brad Freidel I say
Sounds like a plan! Shay has at least four good years in him I reckon and is a top class 'keeper.
I don't think Brad will see it like that aftab. I reckon if he's not going to be first choice he'd jack it in.
If Martin was still here our window wouldn't open for anothe 10 days.
I don't think Brad will see it like that aftab. I reckon if he's not going to be first choice he'd jack it in.
I agree.
Hasn't he played several hundred consecutive PL matches?
I wouldn't be surprised if he bids for Stan.
I wouldn't be surprised if he bids for Stan.
What are the odds martin comes in for petrov followed closely by collins and then robbie keane?
No, I was not referring to Makoun. Still some work to be done to finish the deal, so I should have been more cautious. Still, if it comes off, I think most would agree that it is a good signing in a position of need.
It would have been quite amusing had Sidwell's West Ham move gone through, to find himself filling the "last 15 minutes" slot again.
I wouldn't be surprised if he bids for Stan.
I'd be surprised if we sold our captain.
No, I was not referring to Makoun. Still some work to be done to finish the deal, so I should have been more cautious. Still, if it comes off, I think most would agree that it is a good signing in a position of need.
Tantalising!
No, I was not referring to Makoun. Still some work to be done to finish the deal, so I should have been more cautious. Still, if it comes off, I think most would agree that it is a good signing in a position of need.
Tantalising!
Makoun has signed. Interview is on AVTV ??
What are the odds martin comes in for petrov followed closely by collins and then robbie keane?
and with a bit of luck
NRC, Warnock, Dunne, Heskey, Beye
That should bring in 18m!
anyone heard of this guy we're linked with, Emir Spahic
If we sign Benzema, I think I might have an accident in my pants.
If we sign Benzema, I think I might have an accident in my pants.
benzema is not in their team*sigh*
benzema is not in their team*sigh*
Yes, he is.
Mirrorsport had a very good story of how benzema was prepared to play for villa as houllier was the manager who got the best from him- people may mock but whose to say it couldn't happen ?Didn't GH say yesterday that he won't be coming to VP ?
You're quite right, I'm sorry.benzema is not in their team*sigh*
Yes, he is.
You just destroy dreams
He has started 6 games all season.14 games, scoring nine goals for them.
You just destroy dreamsYou're quite right, I'm sorry.
We're bound to sound Benzema, Kaka, Iniesta and Aguero.
We're then going to win the league.
You're right, this is much better.
More rumours that Adam made a real effort to say bye to the fans.
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
Hopefully before next weeks game v Man Citeh
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.
Me too, Adam would not for starters.
Decent enough player, but no excitement here !
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.
Me too, Adam would not for starters.
Decent enough player, but no excitement here !
I don't think it's Adam. Adam is a player that we will sign before Jan 31st because he'll want to go irrespective of whatever Holloway says. There's something else, something bigger brewing.
It would have been quite amusing had Sidwell's West Ham move gone through, to find himself filling the "last 15 minutes" slot again.
That was my first thought when hearing the news, that would have been great.
If it turns out to be owen people will be upset !lol........upset would not be the word
Why not just type this in big bold letters and in Red for everyone to see? Discretion indeed
Why not quote it again to make sure everyone has read it!
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
You didn't mention Klose and he's up there with those calibre of players ;)Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
Do not allow my statements to overhype this. We are not talking Benzema, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. We are, though, talking about a very good player who will really help us in a position of need. Again, I was stupid and allowed my excitement over the possible signing to outweigh good sense and I apologize to all of your for my rashness. Now, the possibility is that no one will be good enough in your eyes outside of players of the caliber described above. Please do not let it be that way and, should this player sign, my hope is that most of you will agree that it is a really solid signing.
Herp Derp
Blackpool boss Ian Holloway has repeated his verbal attack on Aston Villa manager Gerard Houllier over making public his interest in signing midfielder Charlie Adam.
The Tangerines have already rejected bids for £2.5 and £3.5 million from Villa for Adam.
West Brom 3-2 Blackpool: Odemwingie braces sees off brave Seasiders
But Holloway has the "raving hump" that Houllier has spoken about Adam, who has 18 months remaining of his current deal.
And he insisted Adam will not be sold to Villa.
Holloway was speaking after his side were beaten 3-2 at West Brom via a last-gasp goal from Peter Odemwingie - his second of the game.
He said: "You've got every right to ask me the question, but Mr Houllier should not talk about someone else's player when he hasn't put up enough money to buy him.
"Will I honestly sell him (Adam) to Aston Villa? The answer is no because I am managing his career.
"I've told him where I think he's good enough to go and again today I think he's hit the best pass I've ever seen in my life.
"If there's anybody in the Premier League who can hit a pass like that, how much are they worth?
"So don't insult me by talking about my players.
"Don't talk about my player and I got the raving hump about it because it's not etiquette and it's wrong."
Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/West-Brom-3-2-Blackpool-reaction-Ian-Holloway-slams-Aston-Villa-pursuit-of-Charlie-Adam-following-defeat-article674065.html#ixzz1B8fbvbZh
You didn't mention Klose and he's up there with those calibre of players ;)Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
Do not allow my statements to overhype this. We are not talking Benzema, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. We are, though, talking about a very good player who will really help us in a position of need. Again, I was stupid and allowed my excitement over the possible signing to outweigh good sense and I apologize to all of your for my rashness. Now, the possibility is that no one will be good enough in your eyes outside of players of the caliber described above. Please do not let it be that way and, should this player sign, my hope is that most of you will agree that it is a really solid signing.
I hope it's not Michael Owen otherwise no-one's going to be happy and it's just going to make things worse. Cand you confirm it's not Michael Owen? If it isn't Michael Owen you might as well say it's not him...
"Will I honestly sell him (Adam) to Aston Villa? The answer is no because I am managing his career.
What happened with all the edited posts on the last page?You didn't mention Klose and he's up there with those calibre of players ;)Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
Do not allow my statements to overhype this. We are not talking Benzema, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. We are, though, talking about a very good player who will really help us in a position of need. Again, I was stupid and allowed my excitement over the possible signing to outweigh good sense and I apologize to all of your for my rashness. Now, the possibility is that no one will be good enough in your eyes outside of players of the caliber described above. Please do not let it be that way and, should this player sign, my hope is that most of you will agree that it is a really solid signing.
I hope it's not Michael Owen otherwise no-one's going to be happy and it's just going to make things worse. Cand you confirm it's not Michael Owen? If it isn't Michael Owen you might as well say it's not him...
Lets give him a break guys, and appreciate that he is trying to let fellow fans know that things are happening.
Ian Gobboway cried:Quote"Will I honestly sell him (Adam) to Aston Villa? The answer is no because I am managing his career.
No you won't sell him Ian, but your club will. That's when you'll stamp your feet, your bottom lip will curl down, and you'll threaten to quit.
I know it's good coming on here letting us know what's going on, what I don't understand is why he can't confirm it's not Owen if we won't be signing Owen. If he can't confirm we're not signing Owen it looks like we're signing Owen :(We could be here a while if he has to deny interest in every player that could possibly be mentioned.
Why not just type this in big bold letters and in Red for everyone to see? Discretion indeed
Why not quote it again to make sure everyone has read it!
see, just like that. Puff of smoke. Vanished.
I now feel we should play "Guess the player who Pelty's keeping under wraps". Winner gets free copies of Heroes and Villains until the end of the season.
Well thank fcuk he did play a weakened team coz we would be 3 points less well off if he didn't. We barely scrope the 3 points against their reseves.Ian Gobboway cried:Quote"Will I honestly sell him (Adam) to Aston Villa? The answer is no because I am managing his career.
No you won't sell him Ian, but your club will. That's when you'll stamp your feet, your bottom lip will curl down, and you'll threaten to quit.
I still can't believe that the Premier League / FA haven't called his bluff over the weakened squad he played against us, especially after fining Wolves last season for the same thing.
Adam would be a decent signing but I'd love to know this player who has got pelty so excited.Me too. Just wondering who it is and when we might sign that player Pelty speaks of...
Do not allow my statements to overhype this. We are not talking Benzema, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, etc. We are, though, talking about a very good player who will really help us in a position of need. Again, I was stupid and allowed my excitement over the possible signing to outweigh good sense and I apologize to all of your for my rashness. Now, the possibility is that no one will be good enough in your eyes outside of players of the caliber described above. Please do not let it be that way and, should this player sign, my hope is that most of you will agree that it is a really solid signing.
The funny thing is that I didn't even a have a clue it was Blackpool's 'reserve team' playing against us because I only knew 2-3 Blackpool players. I only found out about their weakened team when I tuned into TalkSport.Well thank fcuk he did play a weakened team coz we would be 3 points less well off if he didn't. We barely scrope the 3 points against their reseves.Ian Gobboway cried:Quote"Will I honestly sell him (Adam) to Aston Villa? The answer is no because I am managing his career.
No you won't sell him Ian, but your club will. That's when you'll stamp your feet, your bottom lip will curl down, and you'll threaten to quit.
I still can't believe that the Premier League / FA haven't called his bluff over the weakened squad he played against us, especially after fining Wolves last season for the same thing.
Well thank fcuk he did play a weakened team coz we would be 3 points less well off if he didn't. We barely scrope the 3 points against their reseves.
What? That we shouldn't guess or that the winner will get free H&V copies?
Having just seen the highlights of the West Hammered game Bridge made 4 fcuk ups for the 3 Arsenal goals. Thats £90,000 well saved.
"I've told him where I think he's good enough to go and again today I think he's hit the best pass I've ever seen in my life.
Having just seen the highlights of the West Hammered game Bridge made 4 fcuk ups for the 3 Arsenal goals. Thats £90,000 well saved.
He was Houlliers choice though, he thought he was better then anything we had.
For me it's more worrying our manager wanted him never mind missing out on him.
Paranoia ?
"I've told him where I think he's good enough to go and again today I think he's hit the best pass I've ever seen in my life.
Jesus Christ what is the problem with this prick?
Re Charlie Adam....Better shot on him than NRC or Petrov ? I should fcukin hope so. I'd fancy Stevie Wonder to have a better shot on him than those two.
Few stories (rumours - no links) circulating that fee has been agreed at 5 million.
Seen him play a few times now, there's definately something of the 'Gareth Barrys' about him.
By which I mean, slow and stodgy with good touch and decent vision. Better shot on him than Petrov or Reo-Coker, no question. But he isn't gonna be a workhorse - maybe that'll be Makouns job.
If it helps push it through, why not send Bannan there on loan as part of the deal?
Because Bannan should be playing for us. Probably our most technically gifted player without exaggeration. Give him a more advanced role and let him play some of the passes no-one else in the ground can see.
Because Bannan should be playing for us. Probably our most technically gifted player without exaggeration. Give him a more advanced role and let him play some of the passes no-one else in the ground can see.
How about these apples for a midfield:
---------------------------Makoun-----------------------------Adam--------------------------
Albrighton-------------------------------Bannan-------------------------------------AYoung
Bit of everything there. Harsh on Downing mind.
Re Charlie Adam....Better shot on him than NRC or Petrov ? I should fcukin hope so. I'd fancy Stevie Wonder to have a better shot on him than those two.
Few stories (rumours - no links) circulating that fee has been agreed at 5 million.
Seen him play a few times now, there's definately something of the 'Gareth Barrys' about him.
By which I mean, slow and stodgy with good touch and decent vision. Better shot on him than Petrov or Reo-Coker, no question. But he isn't gonna be a workhorse - maybe that'll be Makouns job.
If it helps push it through, why not send Bannan there on loan as part of the deal?
Because Bannan should be playing for us. Probably our most technically gifted player without exaggeration. Give him a more advanced role and let him play some of the passes no-one else in the ground can see.
All of them have some odd signings, but Bridge at his best is a decent player, and streets better than WarnockI'd take Warnock's early form for us over anything Bridge has come up with in his career.
Re Charlie Adam....
If it helps push it through, why not send Bannan there on loan as part of the deal?
Having just seen the highlights of the West Hammered game Bridge made 4 fcuk ups for the 3 Arsenal goals. Thats £90,000 well saved.
He was Houlliers choice though, he thought he was better then anything we had.
For me it's more worrying our manager wanted him never mind missing out on him.
Because Bannan should be playing for us. Probably our most technically gifted player without exaggeration. Give him a more advanced role and let him play some of the passes no-one else in the ground can see.
Reading that again........ With respect, he isn't. He's promising but some way off the real deal yet.
I don't think it's that unreasonable.Having just seen the highlights of the West Hammered game Bridge made 4 fcuk ups for the 3 Arsenal goals. Thats £90,000 well saved.
He was Houlliers choice though, he thought he was better then anything we had.
For me it's more worrying our manager wanted him never mind missing out on him.
Awesome.
We're now crucifying the manager for shit players he didn't sign.
I don't think it's that unreasonable.Having just seen the highlights of the West Hammered game Bridge made 4 fcuk ups for the 3 Arsenal goals. Thats £90,000 well saved.
He was Houlliers choice though, he thought he was better then anything we had.
For me it's more worrying our manager wanted him never mind missing out on him.
Awesome.
We're now crucifying the manager for shit players he didn't sign.
The fact that he wanted to spend £90,000 per week of the club's money on Wayne Bridge worries me far more about his capabilities than any amount of waving at Liverpool fans.
Fair point, I'll rephrase:I don't think it's that unreasonable.Having just seen the highlights of the West Hammered game Bridge made 4 fcuk ups for the 3 Arsenal goals. Thats £90,000 well saved.
He was Houlliers choice though, he thought he was better then anything we had.
For me it's more worrying our manager wanted him never mind missing out on him.
Awesome.
We're now crucifying the manager for shit players he didn't sign.
The fact that he wanted to spend £90,000 per week of the club's money on Wayne Bridge worries me far more about his capabilities than any amount of waving at Liverpool fans.
Although we don't know he wanted to spend 90k a week on him.
As far as I'm aware, we were interested to hear what a deal for Bridge would look like and then were all of a sudden very uninterested.
I'm not sure it got past a polite enquiry.
And yes, he's a bit dodgy but there's a good player in there somewhere, or used to be, and you keep your options open I suppose.
I dont think for a second he was anything more than a contingency plan if a favourable deal was there.
Because Bannan should be playing for us. Probably our most technically gifted player without exaggeration. Give him a more advanced role and let him play some of the passes no-one else in the ground can see.
Reading that again........ With respect, he isn't. He's promising but some way off the real deal yet.
Fair enough, but I genuinely believe he is. His touch and awareness are better than anyone at the club that I can think of. His range of passing is fantastic. I don't think we've seen the best of him at Villa Park yet, because for some reason when he's played it's been almost in a quarterback role. Perhaps this is deliberate because our wingers are very attacking players. But from watching him in the reserves, and seeing the odd pass he's made when he has got forward in the first team, I think given a bit more licence he can and hopefully will be an an absolutely fantastic player for us.
So far Hotlips has done a loan deal for a player who was MOTM by miles at Sheffield and bought in a Cameroonian international who has been impressive in the Champions League, seems a decent start to his team rebuilding to me.
Some of you just want him to fail don't you? Even though failure means relegation you want him to fail.
So far Hotlips has done a loan deal for a player who was MOTM by miles at Sheffield and bought in a Cameroonian international who has been impressive in the Champions League, seems a decent start to his team rebuilding to me.
Some of you just want him to fail don't you? Even though failure means relegation you want him to fail.
Because Bannan should be playing for us. Probably our most technically gifted player without exaggeration. Give him a more advanced role and let him play some of the passes no-one else in the ground can see.
Reading that again........ With respect, he isn't. He's promising but some way off the real deal yet.
Fair enough, but I genuinely believe he is. His touch and awareness are better than anyone at the club that I can think of. His range of passing is fantastic. I don't think we've seen the best of him at Villa Park yet, because for some reason when he's played it's been almost in a quarterback role. Perhaps this is deliberate because our wingers are very attacking players. But from watching him in the reserves, and seeing the odd pass he's made when he has got forward in the first team, I think given a bit more licence he can and hopefully will be an an absolutely fantastic player for us.
I agree with you in that he's played some of the the best long-range passes I've seen this season.
I've also seen him put several straight to the opposition and into the crowd.
Passing isn't always about being able to hit point X from 50 yards away. Its also about the 12 yard pass that splits a defence as much as the ball-retaining sideways lay-off.
The term 'technically gifted' seems a bit of a cliche to me to be honest. You're either good enough or you ain't.
It's no good having a 12 inch cock if you can't get it up.
So far Hotlips has done a loan deal for a player who was MOTM by miles at Sheffield and bought in a Cameroonian international who has been impressive in the Champions League, seems a decent start to his team rebuilding to me.Its kind of annoying isn't it. I'll admit I was calling for his head a few weeks back but its clear he is going nowhere. And as you say the signings he has bought in so far have been very good. Sure we haven't seen anything of Makoun in a Villa shirt yet and we've only seen 1 game that Walker has played for us. I didn't think Houllier would ever win me back over and whilst he still has someway to go yet. There just seems to be a feeling in me that I never got from O'neill regarding transfers and tactics. I don't know the right way to describe it but I get a feeling we could be onto something good once Houllier has had 2 or 3 transfer windows. We are being linked with a much better class of player. No way would O'neill of bought Makoun. In fact I'd question whether he knew who Makoun was!!
Some of you just want him to fail don't you? Even though failure means relegation you want him to fail.
At the end of the day, the club have backed him, and i would say that he willbe here at least until the end of the season as they appear to be giving him money to spend. £6m spent already and it would seem several other deals in the pipeline, we have to put replaceing him out of mind and just get behind the team. He certain doesn't seem to fanny about like MON did when it comes to transfers and at least looks to be looking further than the end of his nose. If he can get a couple more solid additions in, i would be astonished if we go down, and think we will improve significantly over the next few months. The whole place should get a lift from some significant activity both ways.
So far Hotlips has done a loan deal for a player who was MOTM by miles at Sheffield and bought in a Cameroonian international who has been impressive in the Champions League, seems a decent start to his team rebuilding to me.Its kind of annoying isn't it. I'll admit I was calling for his head a few weeks back but its clear he is going nowhere. And as you say the signings he has bought in so far have been very good. Sure we haven't seen anything of Makoun in a Villa shirt yet and we've only seen 1 game that Walker has played for us. I didn't think Houllier would ever win me back over and whilst he still has someway to go yet. There just seems to be a feeling in me that I never got from O'neill regarding transfers and tactics. I don't know the right way to describe it but I get a feeling we could be onto something good once Houllier has had 2 or 3 transfer windows. We are being linked with a much better class of player. No way would O'neill of bought Makoun. In fact I'd question whether he knew who Makoun was!!
Some of you just want him to fail don't you? Even though failure means relegation you want him to fail.
Yes, I agree too. I do think though the large majority of players from last season would have done exactly the same whoever was in charge. Its not like they showed any spirit or fight when KM was in charge and this is someone who they apparently was well respected.So far Hotlips has done a loan deal for a player who was MOTM by miles at Sheffield and bought in a Cameroonian international who has been impressive in the Champions League, seems a decent start to his team rebuilding to me.Its kind of annoying isn't it. I'll admit I was calling for his head a few weeks back but its clear he is going nowhere. And as you say the signings he has bought in so far have been very good. Sure we haven't seen anything of Makoun in a Villa shirt yet and we've only seen 1 game that Walker has played for us. I didn't think Houllier would ever win me back over and whilst he still has someway to go yet. There just seems to be a feeling in me that I never got from O'neill regarding transfers and tactics. I don't know the right way to describe it but I get a feeling we could be onto something good once Houllier has had 2 or 3 transfer windows. We are being linked with a much better class of player. No way would O'neill of bought Makoun. In fact I'd question whether he knew who Makoun was!!
Some of you just want him to fail don't you? Even though failure means relegation you want him to fail.
Thanks Hulk; just about sums up where I am coming from. We have no alternative but to give him a chance now and I sincerely hope he gets it right. Even though, to date I would have fired his arse if only for making a large group of our players lose any passion or fight.
I know we shouldn't used text speak on here but surely this is the kind of story where the 'kids' use lmfao...Straight swap for Reina will do the job nicely.
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/223474/Liverpool-eye-10m-Stewart-Downing-
Don't know the financial situation, but I would sell either Downing or Young if it meant getting N'Zogbia in. He takes on and beats players, scores goals and delivers better crosses.
Don't know the financial situation, but I would sell either Downing or Young if it meant getting N'Zogbia in. He takes on and beats players, scores goals and delivers better crosses.
Another winger is surely not the priority, we need a goalscorer
larsson? he would be ok for you......im happy now we got bentley....
I also note with interest Holloway confirming that he's still interested in Bradley Wright-Phillips. Hmmmm, how odd.
Bent is looking a 'possibility.' Take that how you like.
Bent would be the signing MON should have made when we bought Heskey. Again that summer. If there is a sniff of getting him now the club should move all wind and fire to do so, he is as consistent a scorer as you can get outside the top 4, and would be a brilliant signing. Add him to Makoun, and get Walker for keeps, the team for next season would be starting to take an exciting shape IMO.
Still don't think Sunderland will sell though.
Don't know that much about goodwillie, what's your opinion on him as a player sandman and what sort of fee would he be?
Can people really see Sunderland letting Bent go?No.
Bent would certainly be in the Collymore/ Merson league of signings in my book.
How much do we reckon though, straight cash - 15?
We've enquired about him, so I've been told. Nothing more than that at the moment.Sounds like when Ellis used to say
So this is THE signing you was on about on Fri night dave?
Would'nt be disappointed tbh, would offer Ireland and Downing in a straight swap.
Sunderland are reasonably well off, they've a good chance of top 6 and a (very) outside chance of 4th.
They're doing better than they have in years, why would they want to fuck it all up by selling their best player?
Also, we were told that the wage bill was a problem.
As far as I can see, we've got rid of Sidwell (probably £40k pw) and replaced him with Makoun (apparently £40k pw).
Has money been found down the back of a sofa?
Sulley Muntari has handed in a transfer request at Inter, he would be a great addition alongside Makoun.
Sunderland are reasonably well off, they've a good chance of top 6 and a (very) outside chance of 4th.
They're doing better than they have in years, why would they want to fuck it all up by selling their best player?
Also, we were told that the wage bill was a problem.
As far as I can see, we've got rid of Sidwell (probably £40k pw) and replaced him with Makoun (apparently £40k pw).
Has money been found down the back of a sofa?
Sulley Muntari has handed in a transfer request at Inter, he would be a great addition alongside Makoun.
Sunderland are reasonably well off, they've a good chance of top 6 and a (very) outside chance of 4th.
They're doing better than they have in years, why would they want to fuck it all up by selling their best player?
Also, we were told that the wage bill was a problem.
As far as I can see, we've got rid of Sidwell (probably £40k pw) and replaced him with Makoun (apparently £40k pw).
Has money been found down the back of a sofa?
Or has has the threat of relegation made him reconsider.
well Bruce asked about Downing and likes Ireland... Would you take Bent for a swap with Downing and Ireland? I probably would..
well Bruce asked about Downing and likes Ireland... Would you take Bent for a swap with Downing and Ireland? I probably would..
well Bruce asked about Downing and likes Ireland... Would you take Bent for a swap with Downing and Ireland? I probably would..
As it stands, Ireland for Bent would make superb business for us.
Ireland plus up to £8m would be good business to land Bent
Ireland plus up to £8m would be good business to land Bent
Ireland plus up to £8m would be good business to land Bent
If we've made the first move, it's more like Ireland plus £12-15m
Ireland plus up to £8m would be good business to land Bent
If we've made the first move, it's more like Ireland plus £12-15m
I'd still sanction that if I was RL
A +20 a year striker is a Priority
I'd let Downing go to get Bent. Although improved on last year, he's very replaceable.
Downing has been great this season, setting up goals and scoring. Why get rid of someone who can deliver theball to Bent????
Bent got to be worth £18m in the current climate. Ireland and Carew + £8m would not be bad. I always liked him before he went to Sunderland, and he's been fantastic for them.
I would probably sacrifice Young for Bent as long as we were not out of pocket, because i think Young will go in the next year anyway, and we have Downing and Albrighton. I would sacrifice Downing and maybe £4m for Bent if Young signs a new long term contract.I agree.
Whatever happened to keeping this deal on the 'hush hush,' why has someone blurted out the name?
I would give them Downing, Ireland and a few quid to get Bent.
By whom?
If true this needs to be wrapped up tomorrow otherwise we will get gazumped!
By whom?
If true this needs to be wrapped up tomorrow otherwise we will get gazumped!
I'd let Downing go to get Bent. Although improved on last year, he's very replaceable.
I'd let Downing go to get Bent. Although improved on last year, he's very replaceable.
Yes, I agree. I also think that since Christmas, Downing has reverted to last season's form after having improved up until then
He just isn't visible enough for me and doesn't take sufficient responsibility as one of the more senior players
I realise people will disagree, but I am pretty ambivalent about Downing
Sod bent lol apparantly houllier asked Henry to come the villa on loan ha ha. If froggy pulls that one off I'll kiss the twat ha
Sod bent lol apparantly houllier asked Henry to come the villa on loan ha ha. If froggy pulls that one off I'll kiss the twat ha
Sod bent lol apparantly houllier asked Henry to come the villa on loan ha ha. If froggy pulls that one off I'll kiss the twat ha
"Froggy", "Twat", that post sums up your entire contribution to this forum. Awful, small minded and childish.
If Bent is happening I think a player+cash deal will be what it takes. Basically the Milner saga, only we're ManCiteh and Sunderland are us. And Stephen Ireland is Stephen Ireland.
But I really want it to work for Ireland here. If we got him playing he'd be fantastic.
To be clear, I mentioned no names, Situation (and thanks for noting that, east19).
Sod bent lol apparantly houllier asked Henry to come the villa on loan ha ha. If froggy pulls that one off I'll kiss the twat ha
I would give them Downing, Ireland and a few quid to get Bent.
To be clear, I mentioned no names, Situation (and thanks for noting that, east19).
I think that is fair enough. Anyone that knows anything but wants to let fans know should do so without putting anything in jeopardy on a public forum.
I have been thinking about the whole striker thing. If we got a player in the mold of Bent, what foramtion would we put in behind him. 4-4-2 flat gets ripped to shreds a lot these days, and I can't see Gabby and Bent being that successful. So would it be a move to 4-3-3 in the style of Chelsea with Gabby left, Albrighton right and then Makoun, Delph and Petrov centre? It is a tough one. I could see Bent and Heskey doing well due to the fact Emile will drop deeper and work his nads off for the team.
Wasn't there some story about Bent's mother getting racially abused by a load of Sunderland "fans" a while back? Maybe he's not forgotten that?
Bent has 34 goals in 63 games for Sunderland. That's the kind of goal ratio we need someone to weigh in with.
If getting Bent means losing Downing, i'd rather not bother.
Sod bent lol apparantly houllier asked Henry to come the villa on loan ha ha. If froggy pulls that one off I'll kiss the twat haYou really are a pathetic waste of skin.
If getting Bent means losing Downing, i'd rather not bother.
Just text my Mackem mate who has not heard anything about this, not that he necessarily would.
Something about challenging for Europe against relegation dog fight was his first response.
Then bit my hand off for Downing, Ireland and 10M.
Deal almost done then! Will keep you posted.
I would assume that 1981 is year of birth, at 29/30 I'd hope for a slightly more mature approach.
Bent for Downing is a no brainer. We need a 20 goal striker more than we need 3 wingers. Downing is number 3 in the winger's rankings in my opinion, not a bad player but AY and MA offer more.
Bent for Downing is a no brainer. We need a 20 goal striker more than we need 3 wingers. Downing is number 3 in the winger's rankings in my opinion, not a bad player but AY and MA offer more.
Spot on.
Bent for Downing is a no brainer. We need a 20 goal striker more than we need 3 wingers. Downing is number 3 in the winger's rankings in my opinion, not a bad player but AY and MA offer more.
Bent for Downing is a no brainer. We need a 20 goal striker more than we need 3 wingers. Downing is number 3 in the winger's rankings in my opinion, not a bad player but AY and MA offer more.
Spot on.
Except Young will be off at the end of the season and then we're left with just the one.
Why can't we just try to buy Bent? Why do we have to insist on trying to give a player away?
Chris is 100% right on both points.Bent for Downing is a no brainer. We need a 20 goal striker more than we need 3 wingers. Downing is number 3 in the winger's rankings in my opinion, not a bad player but AY and MA offer more.
Spot on.
Except Young will be off at the end of the season and then we're left with just the one.
Why can't we just try to buy Bent? Why do we have to insist on trying to give a player away?
Bent for Downing is a no brainer. We need a 20 goal striker more than we need 3 wingers. Downing is number 3 in the winger's rankings in my opinion, not a bad player but AY and MA offer more.
Spot on.
Except Young will be off at the end of the season and then we're left with just the one.
Why can't we just try to buy Bent? Why do we have to insist on trying to give a player away?
I'd assume the 1981 refers to our League title and that he is in fact 10.I would assume that 1981 is year of birth, at 29/30 I'd hope for a slightly more mature approach.
Or "IQ"
We can't afford Darren Bent. Why are people talking as if there's even a sniff of a chance that we might sign him?
We can't afford Darren Bent. Why are people talking as if there's even a sniff of a chance that we might sign him?
We can't afford Darren Bent. Why are people talking as if there's even a sniff of a chance that we might sign him?
Bent would be a fantastic signing.
I'd also like us to sign another Centre Midfielder. Petrov was way off the pace yesterday.
Or give Delph a chance when he's fit.
The other thing with Downing is i'm not sure Houllier intends to play 2 wingers when he starts to shape his team. given that, he may be willing to let him go.
We can't afford Darren Bent. Why are people talking as if there's even a sniff of a chance that we might sign him?
Who said we cant afford him? Who said what the deal entails and if any cash will actually change hands?
And people are talking about there being a sniff of a chance because there is some sort of hullaballoo behind the scenes to suggest there is with trustworthy people involved and not just gobshites.
TonyD , I think Houlier is looking for that scary muthafucka midfielder , thats why Sissoko keeps getting mentioned..Is that the guy who played for Liverpool a while back?
We can't afford Darren Bent. Why are people talking as if there's even a sniff of a chance that we might sign him?
Who said we cant afford him? Who said what the deal entails and if any cash will actually change hands?
And people are talking about there being a sniff of a chance because there is some sort of hullaballoo behind the scenes to suggest there is with trustworthy people involved and not just gobshites.
Well, we'll see. We're not going to be signing Darren bent though are we.
TonyD , I think Houlier is looking for that scary muthafucka midfielder , thats why Sissoko keeps getting mentioned..Is that the guy who played for Liverpool a while back?
TonyD , I think Houlier is looking for that scary muthafucka midfielder , thats why Sissoko keeps getting mentioned..Is that the guy who played for Liverpool a while back?
for TonyD
Aston Villa are preparing to make a move for former Liverpool star Momo Sissoko after the player revealed he is desperate to move elsewhere.
But the Italian giants are expected to set their asking price at £6million, which might well rule Villa out.
Sissoko said: 'The directors wanted to sell me at the beginning of the year and sometimes they try to enter into agreements that I do not like.
Downing started as a kid at Sunderland and I believe is a sunderland fan, I'm sure as a local lad he would jump at the chance, we may want to offload some of our rejects but Bruce is a wily old fox, if he parts with bent it will be on his terms and maybe downing will indeed be part of the deal, plus possibly £6m?
Downing started as a kid at Sunderland and I believe is a sunderland fan, I'm sure as a local lad he would jump at the chance, we may want to offload some of our rejects but Bruce is a wily old fox, if he parts with bent it will be on his terms and maybe downing will indeed be part of the deal, plus possibly £6m?
I've thought many things of Bruce over the years - dirty ugly manu geordie blue nose potato head bastard just about sums it up - but I've never thought of him as a "a wily old fox".
Downing started as a kid at Sunderland and I believe is a sunderland fan, I'm sure as a local lad he would jump at the chance, we may want to offload some of our rejects but Bruce is a wily old fox, if he parts with bent it will be on his terms and maybe downing will indeed be part of the deal, plus possibly £6m?
I've thought many things of Bruce over the years - dirty ugly manu geordie blue nose potato head bastard just about sums it up - but I've never thought of him as a "a wily old fox".
Downing started as a kid at Sunderland and I believe is a sunderland fan, I'm sure as a local lad he would jump at the chance, we may want to offload some of our rejects but Bruce is a wily old fox, if he parts with bent it will be on his terms and maybe downing will indeed be part of the deal, plus possibly £6m?
I've thought many things of Bruce over the years - dirty ugly manu geordie blue nose potato head bastard just about sums it up - but I've never thought of him as a "a wily old fox".
He's done some decent transfer business at Wigan and Sunderland though, there's no denying that.
NRC is out of contract. I can't see him staying. He'll end up somewhere like Stoke or Blackburn.It doesn't look like were gonna offer him a new deal,so we might as well cash in,if there's any takers.
Rather keep reo- coker till the summer and he may help keep us up, cashing in for a million or so wouldn't be worth the risk .I think Hogg would be a better bet lined up alongside Petrov, but this game is all about opinion I guess? Tommy Doherty once said of Dwight Yorke that he would never be a footballer.
We don't want to end up with injuries again and short of players, I prefer nige to petrov in the team.
George Caulkin (who is a big mate of DB's) tweeted the following
Brace youselves #Safc fans: Darren Bent in the Midlands today discussing personal terms with Aston Villa after £18m bid accepted.
George Caulkin (who is a big mate of DB's) tweeted the following
Brace youselves #Safc fans: Darren Bent in the Midlands today discussing personal terms with Aston Villa after £18m bid accepted.
If we can get Darren Bent & Charlie Adam then I think we'll be a much better side.
It's breaking on SSN apparently, keep me upto date, I'm at work!
would cummings stay til may or have to go back to the mls in feb ?
as i said yesteday, if we signed bent i would probably loose control of all my bodily functions
whoops,
i have got a runny nose, i need a wee and i have just shit my pants
Duh dave, if it comes off it'll be down to Randy and the scouts who told Houllier who to buy, not Houllier himself. Obviously.as i said yesteday, if we signed bent i would probably loose control of all my bodily functions
whoops,
i have got a runny nose, i need a wee and i have just shit my pants
So, if this comes off is Hotlips still a froggy c***?
And Lerner a cheapskate?
"Everyone knows MoN left because Randy had no more money to spend blah blah blah"
There's a lot of stupid looking people in the press and media right now.
"Everyone knows MoN left because Randy had no more money to spend blah blah blah"
There's a lot of stupid looking people in the press and media right now.
I imagine they'll turn it into "he wouldn't give MON the money, but then he gives it to Houllier, should have given it to O'Neill"
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Which is exactly what they've just inferred on Sky News!
O WEAH
O WEAH
O WEAH O WEAH
DARREN BENT BENT BENT
Great news.
Don't buy this Young leaving stuff either. Spurs are the most likely buyer and they are about to sign wide midfielder Pienaar to add to wide midfielders Bale, Lennon, Kranjcar and doubtlessly someone else I've forgotten.
Didn't Toronto Villa say he heard that Young might be signing a new deal?
Liverpool have made an approach for Downing.
Sunderland forums are saying Heskey is going the other way.
Will send her round when she's finished here!!!Sunderland forums are saying Heskey is going the other way.
I just need a blowjob off Angelina Jolie and the day will be complete.
Sunderland forums are saying Heskey is going the other way.
Sunderland forums are saying Heskey is going the other way.
Sunderland forums are saying Heskey is going the other way.
They wouldn't include selling one of our only stand out players this season?
If Carlsberg made January transfer windows......
I'm in fucking shock.
Brilliant news.
But please, do NOT let Downing or Heskey go.
Strength in numbers.
I've just glopped all over my screen.I'm in fucking shock.
Brilliant news.
But please, do NOT let Downing or Heskey go.
Strength in numbers.
Really? You're that happy? n inane child-like grin whilst clenching your fist and giving a little yelp and unbridled glee type happy? Like hearing we'd signed Simon Stainrod?
Collymore not happy saying overpriced
FFS he scores goals that what we need , he will score alot more than you did for us Stanley...
I'm so happy I keep taking a toke on an imaginary cigar and sipping an imaginary cocktail with an imaginary sparkler in it.
Collymore not happy saying overpriced
FFS he scores goals that what we need , he will score alot more than you did for us Stanley...
It is a big punt and a lot of mobey though. 18m? Van Der Vaart was 8.
Collymore not happy saying overpriced
FFS he scores goals that what we need , he will score alot more than you did for us Stanley...
It is a big punt and a lot of mobey though. 18m? Van Der Vaart was 8.
I'm so happy I keep taking a toke on an imaginary cigar and sipping an imaginary cocktail with an imaginary sparkler in it.
It's shut up the three lads in the office who are gobby Everton, Newcastle and Liverpool fans anyway for a bit, so that for me is good news in itself. I've got the Geordie fan shitting himself because I told him this morning about Bent and he didn't believe me. I've told him that the same source has told me that Carroll is being lined up as Bent's replacement at Sunderland.
Same in my office to, two baggies fans very quiet, oh dear :)
Collymore not happy saying overpriced
FFS he scores goals that what we need , he will score alot more than you did for us Stanley...
I think you will find that Bent will not be on stupid £80K pwk wages - I bet RVV is on stupid money
It is a big punt and a lot of mobey though. 18m? Van Der Vaart was 8.
Collymore not happy saying overpriced
FFS he scores goals that what we need , he will score alot more than you did for us Stanley...
It is a big punt and a lot of mobey though. 18m? Van Der Vaart was 8.
Yep.
Big money, but he'll virtually guarantee safety.
Which will probably upset the H&Vers who long for Championship football.
Scored 20 goals for a wanky, wanky Charlton team one season.
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
Am I the only person who is a bit underwhelmed by this signing? I like the fact that it shows ambition and (kind I'd suggests we have money) but once again we're buying players at the top of their potential value. Not to mention that i think Bent is a pretty limited player.i am quite happy to have a player that has only been outscored by drogba and rooney in the last 5 years! Forget his overall game, he KNOWS where the onion bag is!
Spot on, I can't believe there is even the slightest negative opinion when its been obvious for years we lack an out and out goalscorer. Now we are maybe on the verge of getting one he's overpriced! Unbelievable.Am I the only person who is a bit underwhelmed by this signing? I like the fact that it shows ambition and (kind I'd suggests we have money) but once again we're buying players at the top of their potential value. Not to mention that i think Bent is a pretty limited player.i am quite happy to have a player that has only been outscored by drogba and rooney in the last 5 years! Forget his overall game, he KNOWS where the onion bag is!
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
I'll trust Ash, Makoun, Downing and Marco to look after the other aspects of Bent's game. Just put the ball in the right spot and allow Daz to do what he's best at.
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
spot fooking on, saved me from writing it
I'll trust Ash, Makoun, Downing and Marco to look after the other aspects of Bent's game. Just put the ball in the right spot and allow Daz to do what he's best at.
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
spot fooking on, saved me from writing it
I'll trust Ash, Makoun, Downing and Marco to look after the other aspects of Bent's game. Just put the ball in the right spot and allow Daz to do what he's best at.
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
SVC has just been on TS. He gave Bent an A for finishing and a D for his all round game
He's saying he's highly over-priced
SSN now reporting BinDippers will make a bid for Downing
Charlie Adam to sign by the weekend !!
Charlie Adam to sign by the weekend !!
Is that a hopeful suggestion or based on something a bit more tangible?
I agree that Bent's all round game is lacking, but he is a classic predator striker, the like of which we haven't had for years.
I hate that shit 'fox in the box' cliche, but that's exactly what he is.
Post of the day!Sunderland forums are saying Heskey is going the other way.
I just need a blowjob off Angelina Jolie and the day will be complete.
Charlie Adam to sign by the weekend !!
Is that a hopeful suggestion or based on something a bit more tangible?
from here http://astonvilla-views.com/2011/01/17/speculation-charlie-adam-bent-deal-done-and-lb-inbound-avfc/#comments
Oh FFs?
Risso, I thought you were commenting on Bent going elsewhere then! Not THAT site.
All I can say is I hope he is right. Makoun, Adam, Bent, Cummings on loan with view to sign, Walker likewise and a left back would be dreamland for January wouldn't it, and hats of to Lerner, Houllier and Paul Faulkner for making it happen.
Risso, I thought you were commenting on Bent going elsewhere then! Not THAT site.Amen to that (if it all works out).
All I can say is I hope he is right. Makoun, Adam, Bent, Cummings on loan with view to sign, Walker likewise and a left back would be dreamland for January wouldn't it, and hats of to Lerner, Houllier and Paul Faulkner for making it happen.
Risso, I thought you were commenting on Bent going elsewhere then! Not THAT site.
All I can say is I hope he is right. Makoun, Adam, Bent, Cummings on loan with view to sign, Walker likewise and a left back would be dreamland for January wouldn't it, and hats of to Lerner, Houllier and Paul Faulkner for making it happen.
top that all would be Fofana's injury suddenly clearing up by Jan 31st!!
If we get Adam and Bent, as well as a left back this window, I'll spunk rainbows. We'd be looking good for the rest of the season and going into next.
Downing and Heskey for Bent would be fine with me.Anything but fine with me.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12209157Bad willy!
This one is probably a no-go then.
Agreed. Would be madness to let them go now. In the Summer, Heskey probably should go but I reckon Downing could flourish with the type of player Houllier seems to be looking for.Downing and Heskey for Bent would be fine with me.Anything but fine with me.
Our two best players thus far.
David craig looks as if he's gonna cry in a minute and is clutching at straws saying Sunderland will get 6m up front and it's pointless- he says it is far from certain they will sell him yet the midlands reporter said the bid has been accepted- sort it out sky- are you west ham in disguise?he has been hilarious all day with that...
Absolutely.Agreed. Would be madness to let them go now. In the Summer, Heskey probably should go but I reckon Downing could flourish with the type of player Houllier seems to be looking for.Downing and Heskey for Bent would be fine with me.Anything but fine with me.
Our two best players thus far.
According to SSN the hitch is to do with the structure of the installments, it would be gutting for it to collapse over something like that.Can't see it breaking down over that.
the clay model from Lionel Ritchie's 'Hello' video
Brilliant news, Spurs have agreed fee for Pienaar.
This means Ash wont go to spurs, so much chance he will sign a new deal.
Brilliant news, Spurs have agreed fee for Pienaar.
This means Ash wont go to spurs, so much chance he will sign a new deal.
If/When we get Bent, surely that will be it.Don't think so.
Cissokho from Lyon been mentioned...An absolutely fantastic left back, I think he cost Lyon over £10m though
Tom Ross says we've stepped up the interest in Maynor Figueroa and QPR want Carew.
Tom Ross says we've stepped up the interest in Maynor Figueroa and QPR want Carew.
Walker loan, Makoun, Bent, Figueroa, Adam and one of the CB's linked and this would be by far the most exciting transfer blitz since big ron days.
Walker loan, Makoun, Bent, Figueroa, Adam and one of the CB's linked and this would be by far the most exciting transfer blitz since big ron days.
I remember being very excited pre 1995-6. Draper, Southgate, Milosevic...
Walker loan, Makoun, Bent, Figueroa, Adam and one of the CB's linked and this would be by far the most exciting transfer blitz since big ron days.
I remember being very excited pre 1995-6. Draper, Southgate, Milosevic...
I wasn't partic, i knew Draper was a good player but didn't know much about the other 2. They all turned out to have good first seasons, Southgate in particular. Draper went downhill after...
I got excited about Steve Watson. That's how bloody naive I am.
Ah, let the book balancing baseless bollocks begin!
Aston Villa are NOT ALLOWED to make big money signings. It's against the rules. There must be a reckoning somewhere.
Yes, that's it. I mean, where would Villa's billionaire owner come up with that sort of money from?
Times reporting a swap deal between Given and Friedel is on the cards
Looks like Cummings is going.
"Omar Cummings coming back to Colorado - loan deal with Aston Villa falls through, according to source."
http://twitter.com/frankdellapa
(http://www.macalester.edu/~fines/lionel/media/lionel%20richie%20sculpture.jpg)Remember the end of the video?
Hello.
Coventry say that 4 clubs have enquirer about kieron Westwood but no bids have been lodged- probably could get him for £2m max as his contract ends this summer.Excellent keeper, hope we're in for him.
I'm thankful that transfer sanity has returned to Villa after 4 seasons of misery.
Well done Houllier and thanks.
whats all this poop about chelsea in for Bent ?? if thats the case we are fucked as he would deffo most deffo move there over us as its London... worried now
I'm thankful that transfer sanity has returned to Villa after 4 seasons of misery.
Well done Houllier and thanks.
Even by your meagre standards that's pathetic.
Hope to be proved wrong as he's quality, but we have a snowball in hells chance of signing Darren Bent this window.
Hope to be proved wrong as he's quality, but we have a snowball in hells chance of signing Darren Bent this window.
Sometimes, just sometimes, it's great to be an idiot.
Hope to be proved wrong as he's quality, but we have a snowball in hells chance of signing Darren Bent this window.
Sometimes, just sometimes, it's great to be an idiot.
whats all this poop about chelsea in for Bent ?? if thats the case we are fucked as he would deffo most deffo move there over us as its London... worried now
Deffo. Word.
Hope to be proved wrong as he's quality, but we have a snowball in hells chance of signing Darren Bent this window.
Sometimes, just sometimes, it's great to be an idiot.
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just found this article which might shut him up a bit, but i doubt it! (http://!)http://www.fanhouse.co.uk/2011/01/18/why-ian-holloway-cant-complain-about-aston-villas-move-for-cha/[/url]
Figueroa is not on #avfc wanted list. Houllier looking elsewhere for a left backPleased to hear he's looking for a left back, Clark is not the answer, he's much better in the centre back role.
Figueroa is not on #avfc wanted list. Houllier looking elsewhere for a left backPleased to hear he's looking for a left back, Clark is not the answer, he's much better in the centre back role.
What's Zhirkov up to lately? You know, whilst Randers is feeling all spendy.
What's Zhirkov up to lately? You know, whilst Randers is feeling all spendy.
Yes, keep him at it. Tomorrow morning he will be going through all the receipts in his pocket and staring out the kitchen window, trying not to cry
Not so much stepping up but Carew now being available I would hazard.
What's Zhirkov up to lately? You know, whilst Randers is feeling all spendy.
Yes, keep him at it. Tomorrow morning he will be going through all the receipts in his pocket and staring out the kitchen window, trying not to cry
Apparently Keane was asking for £65-70k a week, and to be fair I'd have told him to 'jog on' as well.I really don't think he wanted to go there, so he put in a mad wage demand.
Apparently Keane was asking for £65-70k a week, and to be fair I'd have told him to 'jog on' as well.I really don't think he wanted to go there, so he put in a mad wage demand.
If they'd have agreed he'd have gone there, but his heart wouldn't be in it.
No thanks to Samba, he's no better than Dunne or Collins. I'd rather keep Davies as back up
Really do not want to lose Collins. He is passionate about his football and that passion is infectious ........
Sign this Luke Warm up then, does he play left back ?
I've heard that Samba as a good trainer
I've heard that Samba is a good trainer
Think when Bent is signed, Gabby really will have to step his technic up a couple of notches. He may learn from Bent about his positioning and movement in front of goal ......
Part of the problem with the defence I feel is that they've had no-one solid in midfield protecting them. Hopefully Makoun will change that.Totally agree
I would try for Adam and Phillips from Blackpool and let Young/Downing go.....even both of them for the right moneyPlease tell me you're joking.
Has anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
Has anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
Has anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
Pienaar confimed he is off to Spurs, they won't want Young now so next bit of business after wraping up Bent deal should be new contract.
If he stays and we get silly offer for Downing then let him go! Miss his crunching tackles but never mind!
Nailed on SSN will concentrate on the Piennaarr moveAnd the slightest thing that happens at West Ham.
Has anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
Has anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
He ummed and arred until Bent went elsewhere.
In fairness, it's somewhat arrogant to assume that even had we a definite, concrete interest in him back in 2009 and had matched Sunderland's bid he'd have still come here.
Yes, we're probably a more attractive club than them. But a big part of the reason why he wanted to move was he wanted guaranteed first team football to get back in the England reckoning. Think I even read a quote from him soon after signing there, along the lines of "Villa are a good club, but they already have two England internationals up front and John Carew."
It was a good career move for him to go there at the time.
iHas anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
He ummed and arred until Bent went elsewhere.
In fairness, it's somewhat arrogant to assume that even had we a definite, concrete interest in him back in 2009 and had matched Sunderland's bid he'd have still come here.
Yes, we're probably a more attractive club than them. But a big part of the reason why he wanted to move was he wanted guaranteed first team football to get back in the England reckoning. Think I even read a quote from him soon after signing there, along the lines of "Villa are a good club, but they already have two England internationals up front and John Carew."
It was a good career move for him to go there at the time.
ImagiHas anyone else wondered why MON & RL did not swoop for Bent when he was unhappy at Spurs and save Villa £14 million? I started asking at that time and have never stopped since. Those seated near me in the Trinity are bored of hearing it.
He ummed and arred until Bent went elsewhere.
In fairness, it's somewhat arrogant to assume that even had we a definite, concrete interest in him back in 2009 and had matched Sunderland's bid he'd have still come here.
Yes, we're probably a more attractive club than them. But a big part of the reason why he wanted to move was he wanted guaranteed first team football to get back in the England reckoning. Think I even read a quote from him soon after signing there, along the lines of "Villa are a good club, but they already have two England internationals up front and John Carew."
It was a good career move for him to go there at the time.
Ye he did say that. Imagine if MON had the bottle to have got him then. Carew was doing well and add 15-20 goals to that and who knows where we could of finished .....
I just looked up that Spacic fella who we are apparently interested, as I part of my research I see that he is going out with Miss Croatia and stumbled across this picture of her.
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I just looked up that Spacic fella who we are apparently interested, as I part of my research I see that he is going out with Miss Croatia and stumbled across this picture of her.
(http://www.whatsonsanya.com/photo_images/4_2102.jpg)
SSN have confirmed Piennarr will have Nr 14 shirt, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Quality research, you really do leave no stone unturned.
I've had SSN on since 9am
Life on the edge....
I reckon Robbie is telling porkies there, they agreed a fee and he's saying they never got as far as talking about wages? What did he answer the phone to them for then.
I've had SSN on since 9am
Life on the edge....
I watched it for 13 hours straight once when I was off work sick and couldn't be arsed to get up to fetch the remote. It was the day Milan played Juve in the CL final, around 2003 or 2004. 13 bloody hours.
Never, ever again. Even if Hayley McQueen's working a double shift.
Houllier is buying entire cities now? Wow,..... does that mean we get Henderson too.
The way Big Dunne and Gigantic Ginger James played at the weekend, Samba ia a meh type of signing. Like him, but not stressed about it not happening.
This is off "theliverpoolway" forum today from their transfer thread:
Originally Posted by 109_ultra
Steven Warnock re-signing on loan for rest of the season tomorrow, excellent move for him and the club
Fingers crossed.
This is off "theliverpoolway" forum today from their transfer thread:
Originally Posted by 109_ultra
Steven Warnock re-signing on loan for rest of the season tomorrow, excellent move for him and the club
Fingers crossed.
Wouldn't surprise me if we shift a few bits of deadwood on loan.
How long has Davies been back from his loan?Since Jan 1st
Carew to Albion, Warnock to Liverpool, Davies to Stoke and Ireland to Celtic/Fulham?
I would want to try and get fees for Warnock, Carew and Davies now. Maybe 7-8 million back on them, plus their wages saved would allow us to get a left back and Adam before the window shuts, and be a fabulous month of business.
Carew, Warnock & Davies out?
Hope we still go for Charlie Adam.
If Robbie Keane is worth £6m then so is CarewProbably would be, but Carew has six months left on his deal, Keane has two and a half years*
This is off "theliverpoolway" forum today from their transfer thread:
Originally Posted by 109_ultra
Steven Warnock re-signing on loan for rest of the season tomorrow, excellent move for him and the club
Fingers crossed.
but not as fkin mental as what FSW paid for the twat not long before!If Robbie Keane is worth £6m then so is CarewProbably would be, but Carew has six months left on his deal, Keane has two and a half years*
*which is a bit mental. £12m transfer fee and a four year deal for 29 year old Robbie Keane?!
Nope, not quite that mental.but not as fkin mental as what FSW paid for the twat not long before!If Robbie Keane is worth £6m then so is CarewProbably would be, but Carew has six months left on his deal, Keane has two and a half years*
*which is a bit mental. £12m transfer fee and a four year deal for 29 year old Robbie Keane?!
Isn't it great to have a Manager who does his deals early in the window? instead of that frustrating twat who left it till the the last day virtually every window - particularly in August when we would sign players after the season had already started, which gave the new players no time to bed in and get used to their surroundings. He used to annoy me big time!!
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so true , he was a ditherer ...
All these signings. I feel like I've eaten a whole tin of Quality Street
All these signings. I feel like I've eaten a whole tin of Quality StreetIf MON was still here it would have been a Marathon - Houllier has provided a Bounty.... when at Liverpool didn`t he sign a Picnic, Carra and Mac :) Sorry slightly off Topic there !!!!!
We really could do with a keeper though. An injury to Brad and we're in a spot of bother!
We really could do with a keeper though. An injury to Brad and we're in a spot of bother!
Rumours on Twitter that Davies is signing for Celtic on loan.
I'd have to agree.Rumours on Twitter that Davies is signing for Celtic on loan.
Loan? Sell him, a loan is pointless.
I thought Stoke were keen on Davies?
Warnock going means we have a left back tied up, surely? Otheriwse it's risky business. Something MON might have risked but I cant see Houllier doing. Clark will do a good job there but at the moment, he's it.
As an aside, I'm very disappointed in Warnock. He really is much better than he's shown this season.
Get the dippers to cough up though. They can do better than a loan can't they? The almighty Liverpool?? Biggest club in the world...???
I thought Stoke were keen on Davies?
Warnock going means we have a left back tied up, surely? Otheriwse it's risky business. Something MON might have risked but I cant see Houllier doing. Clark will do a good job there but at the moment, he's it.
As an aside, I'm very disappointed in Warnock. He really is much better than he's shown this season.
Get the dippers to cough up though. They can do better than a loan can't they? The almighty Liverpool?? Biggest club in the world...???
What would people think if we offered Delph on loan to Blackpool for the rest of the season as part of a deal that got Charlie Adam?
I think it would be a good idea. He'd benefit from playing, getting fully fit & sharp. Ready for being a big player for us next season.
Pienaar went for £3m.
It's amazing, Randy does a couple of deals and suddenly everyone is Gordon Gekko
I would swap Ireland for a cubic yard of clean topsoil and an inner tube for my wheelbarrow
Pienaar went for £3m.
It's amazing, Randy does a couple of deals and suddenly everyone is Gordon Gekko
Sky say us & Blackburn have bid for Larson, Come on BlackburnI'd be very confused by this.
I wish we'd bid for Johnson and maybe Ferguson as well, that would just about make my week.
MYSTERYMAN says the Larsson story is bullshit.*sigh of relief*
As you were.
We've a youngster called James Collins too, he's a forward.
Is Hleb on loan with that lot? Surely he wasn't stupid enough to sign a long-term contract?
Rumours on Twitter that Davies is signing for Celtic on loan.
Loan? Sell him, a loan is pointless.
MYSTERYMAN says the Larsson story is bullshit.
MYSTERYMAN says Larsson shit.;)
As you were.
I reckon we should do a swap involving John Carew, Stephen Ireland and possibly Beye with Jay Z for Beyonce.
any one think we should bid for lukaku from anderlect seen as we are so flush.
18 year old 6"3 and quick off the mark. the next drogba in the making
I wouldn't mind being balls deep in the Knowles.
Beyonce that is, not Nick.
Pienaar went for £3m.£2m for Kranjaer
Old Arry is up to it again
8m for vanderfart - £10 million went missing
3m for pineaar - £5 million goes missing
Someones having roast turkey this xmas...
any one think we should bid for lukaku from anderlect seen as we are so flush.There's rumours that his representatives are already in talks with Man City for next season. If true, they don't mess about.
18 year old 6"3 and quick off the mark. the next drogba in the making
any one think we should bid for lukaku from anderlect seen as we are so flush.
18 year old 6"3 and quick off the mark. the next drogba in the making
any one think we should bid for lukaku from anderlect seen as we are so flush.
18 year old 6"3 and quick off the mark. the next drogba in the making
any one think we should bid for lukaku from anderlect seen as we are so flush.
18 year old 6"3 and quick off the mark. the next drogba in the making
On Monday we were flush, yesterday we went on a big splurge.
Aston Villa have representatives at the Asian Cup. And they could be interested in the Japenese striker Honda .........
Source: Sports.co.uk
I feel a punathon coming. I'll start....if we get Honda I hope he'll get a Civic receptionAston Villa have representatives at the Asian Cup. And they could be interested in the Japenese striker Honda .........
Source: Sports.co.uk
OK you have set this up:
So SHA have Bentley and we are after Honda ..tut tut
I feel a punathon coming. I'll start....if we get Honda I hope he'll get a Civic receptionAston Villa have representatives at the Asian Cup. And they could be interested in the Japenese striker Honda .........
Source: Sports.co.uk
OK you have set this up:
So SHA have Bentley and we are after Honda ..tut tut
Avfc official twitter feed says Adam deal almost done. 4.25mill. Transfer request 3.5 year deal. Compete next week!
Avfc official twitter feed says Adam deal almost done. 4.25mill. Transfer request 3.5 year deal. Compete next week!
Avfc official twitter feed says Adam deal almost done. 4.25mill. Transfer request 3.5 year deal. Compete next week!
Sorry it was villa_insider My mistake
Sorry it was villa_insider My mistakeWho, according to his twitter feed no longer works for Villa.
Dave you are such an arse. trying to be mr know it all
Go to twitter. Find villa_insider and look at recent tweets then you will see!!
bloody hell
Well he was the only one posting about houllier before it was on THESE sitesIs it the bloke I've linked above? Who hasn't posted anything since January 6th?
Adam, left back , and either samba or Westwood?mystery man saying we will be pleased about the calibre of these players although bent was our marquee signing
I think the next cb we sign should be scrawny, Jewish and a Lesbian.
i will be gobsmacked if we sign samba. i do feel tho the next cb we buy will be 6foot plus, black and very athletic, sambas only 2 of those. dont rule out any more man city rejects lescott or micha richards maybe
I will settle for fat, deaf and Sikh
Asian, midget, amputee for me
I think the next cb we sign should be scrawny, Jewish and a Lesbian.
Quite concievable by next tue we could be on the shoulders of the top 10 and hot on the heels of Sunderland- a couple of wins changes a lot of things and maybe in that position we will look a more attractive bet to some players.I'd hope that any player who is likely to join us isn't going to base that decision on whether we're in 17th or 13th position.
mystery man saying we will be pleased about the calibre of these players although bent was our marquee signing
What about that Huddersfield keeper, wasn't he left out of the team the other night?
mystery man saying we will be pleased about the calibre of these players although bent was our marquee signing
Not having a go at you here pav, but can we have some sort of word filter for this horrible term. It makes no effing sense.
Ok then Stuart , it basically means that , the gentleman on villa talk known as mystery man , was referring to possible targets that could be signed shortly , but Darren Bent was our biggest/ eye brow raiser I.e. marquee signing ....I was merely quoting what MM said , apologies if didnt make er..effing sense ( raised eyebrow and tutting emotion thingy )mystery man saying we will be pleased about the calibre of these players although bent was our marquee signing
Not having a go at you here pav, but can we have some sort of word filter for this horrible term. It makes no effing sense.
If Mark E Smith, Markie Mark Wahlberg, and Malky Mackay got together and did an autograph session in a really big tent, would it be a Mark E Markie Malky Marquee signing?brilliant !
Sky sports report we have bid for sen larsson. Really don't see the point as I rate albrighton higher.
JPA has signed for LA GalaxyBeckham - Angel - Donovan
JPA has signed for LA GalaxyBeckham - Angel - Donovan
Dream Team
No dave, but a team with new signings and lookinG as though we have turned the corner is a more attractive proposition to some than a team battling relegation- I really feel we will finish in the top 10 and all this bollocks in the press about joining a team battling relegation will be put to bed.
Something very exciting is happening here and I see good times around the corner.
No dave, but a team with new signings and lookinG as though we have turned the corner is a more attractive proposition to some than a team battling relegation- I really feel we will finish in the top 10 and all this bollocks in the press about joining a team battling relegation will be put to bed.
Something very exciting is happening here and I see good times around the corner.
you can get 20/1 for vila to finish in top ten.. I reckon thats a good bet
If Mark E Smith, Markie Mark Wahlberg, and Malky Mackay got together and did an autograph session in a really big tent, would it be a Mark E Markie Malky Marquee signing?
i will be gobsmacked if we sign samba. i do feel tho the next cb we buy will be 6foot plus, black and very athletic, sambas only 2 of those. dont rule out any more man city rejects lescott or micha richards maybe
I'm not that overfussed on Samba to be honest. Blackburn have robbed us once already when we paid over the odds for Warnock. Unless there's someone really good out there available like Lescott, i'd rather wait and see how the back four work out with the new midfield in front of them.
Villa have called a halt to their pursuit of Adam after Blackpool rejected their £2.5million and £3.5 million bids for the Scottish international midfielder.
Houllier and chairman Randy Lerner are not prepared to meet the inflated valuation they believe the Seasiders have put on Adam.
Villa could turn their attentions elsewhere, but are in no rush for midfield reinforcements and might be content to wait until the end of the season.
Evening Mail reporting we've given up on Adam:QuoteVilla have called a halt to their pursuit of Adam after Blackpool rejected their £2.5million and £3.5 million bids for the Scottish international midfielder.
Houllier and chairman Randy Lerner are not prepared to meet the inflated valuation they believe the Seasiders have put on Adam.
Villa could turn their attentions elsewhere, but are in no rush for midfield reinforcements and might be content to wait until the end of the season.
Blimey, they accused US of being 'disrespectful' regarding our bids for Adam yet they won't even pay £500,000 for a Championship player? Oh dear Ian Holloway, you really have lost the plot.
You bought Adam for 500k and you're turning down the oppotunity for a 3.5 million profit for the size of Blackpool? Just let him go, he clearly doesn't want to play for Blackpool. This won't end well for them.
Daily Nazi saying that the Boggies want to sign Big John in time to make his debut against Blackeye at the weekend.I've no objections to Carew fucking off, but at this moment in time looking at the table, I wouldn't want him going to West Brom or West Ham.
The Daily Mail article claims that Blackpool want £8m for Adam.I don't know, he looks an one season wonder to me. He is this season's Sidwell. Not worth £3m, let alone £8m.
Go and get fucked Gollum.
The Daily Mail article claims that Blackpool want £8m for Adam.I don't know, he looks an one season wonder to me. He is this season's Sidwell. Not worth £3m, let alone £8m.
Go and get fucked Gollum.
The Daily Mail article claims that Blackpool want £8m for Adam.I don't know, he looks an one season wonder to me. He is this season's Sidwell. Not worth £3m, let alone £8m.
Go and get fucked Gollum.
He looked a class above last season in the championship and has continued to look quality in premier league, so I think he would be a good buy!
Van Der Vaart cost just over £8m
Adam - £8m ha ha ha, very funny
Van Der Vaart cost just over £8m
Adam - £8m ha ha ha, very funny
You see a lot of this on football message boards. If Player A cost X, then no way is Player B worth Y etc, etc.
You simply cannot compare the ability of footballers in this way, as many other factors come into play. How old the player is (which affects re-sale value), how long does he have left on his contract (the buying club is effectively buying him out of his contract), and whether or not the player is English, which carries a premium.
The last one causes some confusion but agents will argue that English players have no issues settling in, are proven in the PL and won't have to spend a week jetting halfway round the world just to play an international friendly every few months.
Van Der Vaart cost just over £8m
Adam - £8m ha ha ha, very funny
You see a lot of this on football message boards. If Player A cost X, then no way is Player B worth Y etc, etc.
No dave, but a team with new signings and lookinG as though we have turned the corner is a more attractive proposition to some than a team battling relegation- I really feel we will finish in the top 10 and all this bollocks in the press about joining a team battling relegation will be put to bed.
Something very exciting is happening here and I see good times around the corner.
you can get 20/1 for vila to finish in top ten.. I reckon thats a good bet
Its great value. Who's that with...??
Lending Carew to a relegation rival who are a decent team who desperately need a goalscorer would be mental, especially given his propensity to do well immediately following a move.Spot on.
Outcast Stephen Warnock made to train with Aston Villa reserves
Stephen Warnock's time at Villa Park appears to be over after he was relegated to join in with the reserves.
The left-back was sent to join in with Kevin MacDonald's side as he prepares for a spell on the sidelines.
Liverpool are interested in the England international but have yet to make a formal enquiry as they weigh up alternatives. Meanwhile, Newcastle want to take Villa’s unsettled midfielder Stephen Ireland on loan.
And Villa striker Andreas Weimann has joined Watford on loan until the end of the season.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1348762/Outcast-Stephen-Warnock-train-Aston-Villa-reserves.html#ixzz1BZUk4UBZ
you can get 20/1 for vila to finish in top ten.. I reckon thats a good bet
Van Der Vaart cost just over £8m
Adam - £8m ha ha ha, very funny
You see a lot of this on football message boards. If Player A cost X, then no way is Player B worth Y etc, etc.
You simply cannot compare the ability of footballers in this way, as many other factors come into play. How old the player is (which affects re-sale value), how long does he have left on his contract (the buying club is effectively buying him out of his contract), and whether or not the player is English, which carries a premium.
The last one causes some confusion but agents will argue that English players have no issues settling in, are proven in the PL and won't have to spend a week jetting halfway round the world just to play an international friendly every few months.
You're first point is correct, but I don't care what criteria you use, no way is Charlie Adam worth £8m. When they get relegated and he leaves for nowt, they'll wish they sold for a decent fee.
Secondly, partly true, but even Scotland have to travel to play European and World Cup qualifiers!
Anyone remember in the 80s blues loaning Coventry Mick ferguson- he scored the winner for them in a 1-0 win over blues and blues ended up being relegated- if anyone wants Carew they should stump up at least £1m- my guess is he will go to west ham.
Anyone remember in the 80s blues loaning Coventry Mick ferguson- he scored the winner for them in a 1-0 win over blues and blues ended up being relegated- if anyone wants Carew they should stump up at least £1m- my guess is he will go to west ham.
Loan players can't play against their parent club these days.
The problem is if we want shot of Carew, and I think we do, it's only likely to be teams near the bottom who would take him. In any case, surely our outlook is more positive now and we should be worrying about the top half of the table.
Anyone remember in the 80s blues loaning Coventry Mick ferguson- he scored the winner for them in a 1-0 win over blues and blues ended up being relegated- if anyone wants Carew they should stump up at least £1m- my guess is he will go to west ham.
Loan players can't play against their parent club these days.
The problem is if we want shot of Carew, and I think we do, it's only likely to be teams near the bottom who would take him. In any case, surely our outlook is more positive now and we should be worrying about the top half of the table.
There's the rest of Europe to farm Carew out to
Let's not be naive here
No dave, but a team with new signings and lookinG as though we have turned the corner is a more attractive proposition to some than a team battling relegation- I really feel we will finish in the top 10 and all this bollocks in the press about joining a team battling relegation will be put to bed.
Something very exciting is happening here and I see good times around the corner.
you can get 20/1 for vila to finish in top ten.. I reckon thats a good bet
Its great value. Who's that with...??
Wouldn't pay 8m for adam, but i guess since Bent arriving all the selling clubs have doubled their asking price when we come calling. Carew was supposedly interesting west ham, though i guess thats dead now due to MON bottling it. If he goes to WBA we should make sure we get a few clauses in - money for goals scored, staying up etc.. They'll pay it if they're that desperate
Oh hang on, Mysteryman reckons it isnt dead...
Wouldn't pay 8m for adam, but i guess since Bent arriving all the selling clubs have doubled their asking price when we come calling. Carew was supposedly interesting west ham, though i guess thats dead now due to MON bottling it. If he goes to WBA we should make sure we get a few clauses in - money for goals scored, staying up etc.. They'll pay it if they're that desperate
clauses like missed penalties ;-)
We're not having the piss taken out of us then, good. Wurzel will have an unhappy bunny on his hands though maybe. Lets move on to another target. Lets use the Adam money as a deposit to get Milner back. Or Honda from CSKA.
Why did we sell Milner in the first place?
Why did we sell Milner in the first place?
If we re-signed Milner I'd be more excited than I was when we signed Bent. It isn't going to happen though is it?
Doubt citeh would sell especially at a loss it's not like they need to control the wage bill and they're on for the title aren't they ???
I will settle for fat, deaf and Sikh
Doubt citeh would sell especially at a loss it's not like they need to control the wage bill and they're on for the title aren't they ???
you'd say so but at the end of the day they have to satisfy platini's spending criteria to qualify for the CL. He's already made a few hints about them
Asian, midget, amputee for me
Carew in Stoke now discussing loan deal!
Ireland in phonebox discussing way out.
Ireland in phonebox discussing way out.
Ireland struggling to locate phone in phonebox.
Collymore in Car Park panting furiously.
Ireland in phonebox discussing way out.
Ireland struggling to locate phone in phonebox.
Ireland in phonebox wanting to make a call but expecting someone else to lift the phone, someone else to dial the numbers and him just to speak into it. What? He's not interested in the hard work part.
I'm not sure I would want Milner back. Good player but I'd like something different.
Sky breaking news Carew discussing loan till end of season-see what pulis makes of him.
I'm not sure I would want Milner back. Good player but I'd like something different.
Then let's see if Jay Z is prepared to let Beyone out on loan for 6 months in exchange for Ireland and Beye.
excellent 8)I'm not sure I would want Milner back. Good player but I'd like something different.
Then let's see if Jay Z is prepared to let Beyone out on loan for 6 months in exchange for Ireland and Beye.
He doesn't need any football staff in.
Apparently, he's got 99 problems but the pitch ain't one.
Sky breaking news Carew discussing loan till end of season-see what pulis makes of him.
Fuller off to the whingers in the north east.
Milner was sensational against West Ham on the opening day. Such a shame he went, and such a shame he has not played central midfield since!
I think I may have found the worst bit of reporting in this transfer window. When did Beckham leave Man United, six years ago?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/01/20/2314949/juventus-beat-manchester-united-aston-villa-in-race-to-sign?
Milner was sensational against West Ham on the opening day. Such a shame he went, and such a shame he has not played central midfield since!
I think I may have found the worst bit of reporting in this transfer window. When did Beckham leave Man United, six years ago?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/01/20/2314949/juventus-beat-manchester-united-aston-villa-in-race-to-sign?
That will teach us not to send Ian Ormondroyd out to help negotiate future transfers.
Milner was sensational against West Ham on the opening day. Such a shame he went, and such a shame he has not played central midfield since!
Absolutely! No coincidence our midfield is struggling and not supporting the defence and we no longer have the likes of Milner. I'd have him back tomorrow no doubt about it!
He's exactly what we're missing and have been missing since he left. Great player, great talent. Him, young, albrighton, downing, makoun and bent! Awesome!!
I can't believe we haven't signed anyone in two days. French bastard. What a huge mistake by Randy. Houllier out
I think I may have found the worst bit of reporting in this transfer window. When did Beckham leave Man United, six years ago?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/01/20/2314949/juventus-beat-manchester-united-aston-villa-in-race-to-sign?
That will teach us not to send Ian Ormondroyd out to help negotiate future transfers.
Did I read that right? There is a team in Romania called Aresole Turda?
I think I may have found the worst bit of reporting in this transfer window. When did Beckham leave Man United, six years ago?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/01/20/2314949/juventus-beat-manchester-united-aston-villa-in-race-to-sign?
That will teach us not to send Ian Ormondroyd out to help negotiate future transfers.
Did I read that right? There is a team in Romania called Aresole Turda?
Yep. They are playing Tuchin Klof right now on ESPN.
Holloway moaning on tv that villa bought bent and have made him a derisory offer for adam, although he did say aston villa are a massive club , so at least we are no longer a half arsed club!
II think I may have found the worst bit of reporting in this transfer window. When did Beckham leave Man United, six years ago?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/01/20/2314949/juventus-beat-manchester-united-aston-villa-in-race-to-sign?
That will teach us not to send Ian Ormondroyd out to help negotiate future transfers.
Did I read that right? There is a team in Romania called Aresole Turda?
carew agrees loan to stoke until end of season and passes medical.
carew agrees loan to stoke until end of season and passes medical.
how the fook did he pass that...
I think I may have found the worst bit of reporting in this transfer window. When did Beckham leave Man United, six years ago?
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/01/20/2314949/juventus-beat-manchester-united-aston-villa-in-race-to-sign?
That will teach us not to send Ian Ormondroyd out to help negotiate future transfers.
Did I read that right? There is a team in Romania called Aresole Turda?
Yep. They are playing Tuchin Klof right now on ESPN.
With the winners playing Flocka Sparras in the next round.
pmk is thinking:QuoteI can't believe we haven't signed anyone in two days. French bastard. What a huge mistake by Randy. Houllier out
ROBBIE KEANE TO SIGN FOR IN JAN TRANSFER WINDOW
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Join By End Of January Transfer Window
Aston Villa 1/5
Fucking hell. Those odds have changed a lot in the last few hours.
ROBBIE KEANE TO SIGN FOR IN JAN TRANSFER WINDOW
Top
Join By End Of January Transfer Window
Aston Villa 1/5
West Ham 3/1
Everton 5/1
Fulham 7/1
Sunderland 9/1
Wolves 14/1
Newcastle 14/1
Celtic 16/1
Any MLS Club 16/1
Birmingham City 33/1
http://www.skybet.com/betting/football/transfer-specials/t10003041.html
By the way I am east19 but now changed to eastie as some people think I'm 19 even though I'm 45!
Apparently Gary Glitter has applied to be the new Villa manager after he heard the strikers were Young, Bent and maybe Keane.how many times do ppl want to post this shite joke
Apparently Gary Glitter has applied to be the new Villa manager after he heard the strikers were Young, Bent and maybe Keane.how many times do ppl want to post this shite joke
The Metro understands that Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier is considering a bid for Arsenal’s out-of-favour Spanish goalkeeper Manuel Almunia.
Villa’s current number one Brad Friedel turns 40 in May, and is expected to hang up his gloves in the near future, leaving Houllier to look for a new number one.
33-year-old Almunia has not played for The Gunners since picking up an elbow injury during a home loss to West Brom last August. A fresh ankle injury has prompted manager Wenger to give his blessing to a potential move away from the Emirates.
Just before Christmas Houllier said a decision whether to offer veteran USA international Friedel an extension on his current contract would be made New Year as he looks for a successor between the posts.
With the spending well and truly underway at the relegation-threatened Midlands-Club, a bid for Alumina in the £3 million region could be enough to secure his services ahead of a number of other potential suitors, including Galatasaray, Sevilla and Atletico Madrid.
QuoteThe Metro understands that Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier is considering a bid for Arsenal’s out-of-favour Spanish goalkeeper Manuel Almunia.
Villa’s current number one Brad Friedel turns 40 in May, and is expected to hang up his gloves in the near future, leaving Houllier to look for a new number one.
33-year-old Almunia has not played for The Gunners since picking up an elbow injury during a home loss to West Brom last August. A fresh ankle injury has prompted manager Wenger to give his blessing to a potential move away from the Emirates.
Just before Christmas Houllier said a decision whether to offer veteran USA international Friedel an extension on his current contract would be made New Year as he looks for a successor between the posts.
With the spending well and truly underway at the relegation-threatened Midlands-Club, a bid for Alumina in the £3 million region could be enough to secure his services ahead of a number of other potential suitors, including Galatasaray, Sevilla and Atletico Madrid.
What we are seeing is a very rare event: Aston Villa are perceived as a club with money to chuck about. So every crap player angling for a move is linked to us.
And it's why the everyone suddenly hates us. If we finish the season strongly now we will have bought our way out of trouble in a very conspicuous way.
Who is France no 1 goalkeeper ? is he any good.Hugo Lloris. He plays for Lyon. Maybe Houllier could ring his old club...
I'd rather an amputee midget gimp than almunia.
Who is France no 1 goalkeeper ? is he any good.Hugo Lloris. He plays for Lyon. Maybe Houllier could ring his old club...
I'd rather an amputee midget gimp than almunia.
So would I. Oh, you mean to play football. Right.....
Found this on the skysports website. Spurs fan talking about Hollway's valuation of Adam.
'This makes me laugh and shows how dumb fans of some clubs are, He is saying that his worth to Blackpool is £46m as thats what they will earn if he stays and keeps them up. He doesn't say thats what a club would have to pay for him. I also think its laughable that villa can bid £2.5 - 3.5m for a player of Adams quality then stump up £18m for Bent. Villa are a joke of a club.
Posted 22:38 20th January 2011'
What a twat!
I'd rather an amputee midget gimp than almunia.
So would I. Oh, you mean to play football. Right.....
Kendrick thinks our Jan is done as the prices for the other 3 targets we had (he says targets but other places have said 3 more) have risen dramatically since the signing of Bent and better value can be had in the summer.
Still think we are a central midfield player and a left back short of being a good team again, but on paper we should stay up with ease with what we have.
This summer will be fun though. Houllier turned over a lot of players in his first summer as sole manager of Liverpool. Certainly don't think it will be anything like it was with Martin.
And it's why the everyone suddenly hates us. If we finish the season strongly now we will have bought our way out of trouble in a very conspicuous way.
That's right. It won't be because we started playing well, or anything. Which, By the way, still needs to happen.
And it's why the everyone suddenly hates us. If we finish the season strongly now we will have bought our way out of trouble in a very conspicuous way.
That's right. It won't be because we started playing well, or anything. Which, By the way, still needs to happen.
I was thinking this yesterday.
We're so excited about signing Darren Bent and Jean Number Makoun, that we've all forgotten how shit we are.
Here's hoping the players have too.
Skysports.com understands Aston Villa have joined the hunt for highly-rated Leeds midfielder Bradley Johnson.
The 23-year-old, who has been linked with a host of suitors in this month's transfer window, saw his stock rise as he fired home a stunning goal during the Whites' 3-1 FA Cup defeat to Arsenal at Elland Road on Wednesday night.
Johnson, who is out of contract in the summer, has yet to agree a new deal with Leeds after turning down a three-year extension in November.
Villa are the latest Premier League outfit to show an interest in the midfielder, with Wigan, Bolton and Stoke, as well as Scottish champions Rangers, already reportedly chasing his signature.
Gerard Houllier's side could be targeting Johnson as an alternative option to Blackpool captain Charlie Adam after Seasiders manager Ian Holloway insisted their initial £3.5million bid for the midfielder was 'insulting'.
Johnson, who can also play at left-back, is thought to come with a £500,000 price tag, but will be available on a free transfer in the summer should he see out his contract at Leeds.
QuoteThe Metro understands that Aston Villa boss Gerard Houllier is considering a bid for Arsenal’s out-of-favour Spanish goalkeeper Manuel Almunia.
Villa’s current number one Brad Friedel turns 40 in May, and is expected to hang up his gloves in the near future, leaving Houllier to look for a new number one.
33-year-old Almunia has not played for The Gunners since picking up an elbow injury during a home loss to West Brom last August. A fresh ankle injury has prompted manager Wenger to give his blessing to a potential move away from the Emirates.
Just before Christmas Houllier said a decision whether to offer veteran USA international Friedel an extension on his current contract would be made New Year as he looks for a successor between the posts.
With the spending well and truly underway at the relegation-threatened Midlands-Club, a bid for Alumina in the £3 million region could be enough to secure his services ahead of a number of other potential suitors, including Galatasaray, Sevilla and Atletico Madrid.
Christ, the press really have got it in for us.
Fucking hell, forget about O'Neill, Malc, he's gone. Walked out. Gone. He is an ex-manager.Not in a million years Risso.......some people on here blame him for the Titanic sinking, Shergar going missing,etc
And it's why the everyone suddenly hates us. If we finish the season strongly now we will have bought our way out of trouble in a very conspicuous way.
That's right. It won't be because we started playing well, or anything. Which, By the way, still needs to happen.
I was thinking this yesterday.
We're so excited about signing Darren Bent and Jean Number Makoun, that we've all forgotten how shit we are.
Here's hoping the players have too.
Hang on didn't the same squad minus Milner finish 6th 9 times in a row or thereabouts ?
On SKy:QuoteSkysports.com understands Aston Villa have joined the hunt for highly-rated Leeds midfielder Bradley Johnson.
The 23-year-old, who has been linked with a host of suitors in this month's transfer window, saw his stock rise as he fired home a stunning goal during the Whites' 3-1 FA Cup defeat to Arsenal at Elland Road on Wednesday night.
Johnson, who is out of contract in the summer, has yet to agree a new deal with Leeds after turning down a three-year extension in November.
Villa are the latest Premier League outfit to show an interest in the midfielder, with Wigan, Bolton and Stoke, as well as Scottish champions Rangers, already reportedly chasing his signature.
Gerard Houllier's side could be targeting Johnson as an alternative option to Blackpool captain Charlie Adam after Seasiders manager Ian Holloway insisted their initial £3.5million bid for the midfielder was 'insulting'.
Johnson, who can also play at left-back, is thought to come with a £500,000 price tag, but will be available on a free transfer in the summer should he see out his contract at Leeds.
Any who know him?
Put a transfer request in a month or two back but they keep playing him. I'd be very surprised he if could step up to the Premier League. He's a whole-hearted player but can't see as he's any better than what we already have in midfield... and he's certainly not a left back or Leeds would have used him there with the problems they've had in that position.On SKy:QuoteSkysports.com understands Aston Villa have joined the hunt for highly-rated Leeds midfielder Bradley Johnson.
The 23-year-old, who has been linked with a host of suitors in this month's transfer window, saw his stock rise as he fired home a stunning goal during the Whites' 3-1 FA Cup defeat to Arsenal at Elland Road on Wednesday night.
Johnson, who is out of contract in the summer, has yet to agree a new deal with Leeds after turning down a three-year extension in November.
Villa are the latest Premier League outfit to show an interest in the midfielder, with Wigan, Bolton and Stoke, as well as Scottish champions Rangers, already reportedly chasing his signature.
Gerard Houllier's side could be targeting Johnson as an alternative option to Blackpool captain Charlie Adam after Seasiders manager Ian Holloway insisted their initial £3.5million bid for the midfielder was 'insulting'.
Johnson, who can also play at left-back, is thought to come with a £500,000 price tag, but will be available on a free transfer in the summer should he see out his contract at Leeds.
Any who know him?
Scored a wonderful screamer agains Arsenal on Weds in the cup (Was on ITV).
Give credit to O'Neill where credit's due, but should we also give credit to him for ruining our dreams in consecutive seasons?
Yawn , credit due his left got us to 6th and we now 17th move on for fucks sake
Give credit to O'Neill where credit's due, but should we also give credit to him for ruining our dreams in consecutive seasons?'Move on'? I'm not a happy clapper. Although O'Neill did a really good job as manager you can't not accept his faults, it'd just be moronic.
Yawn , credit due his left got us to 6th and we now 17th move on for fucks sake
If he wasn't driven on trying to set-up our players for asthma attacks we would be playing AC Milan in a few weeks.
Found this on the skysports website. Spurs fan talking about Hollway's valuation of Adam.
'This makes me laugh and shows how dumb fans of some clubs are, He is saying that his worth to Blackpool is £46m as thats what they will earn if he stays and keeps them up. He doesn't say thats what a club would have to pay for him. I also think its laughable that villa can bid £2.5 - 3.5m for a player of Adams quality then stump up £18m for Bent. Villa are a joke of a club.
Posted 22:38 20th January 2011'
What a twat!
He's a Spurs fan, enough said.
If, as we're being told, Liverpool have 'declared their interest in Ashley Young' without making a bid, then is this not tapping up of the most heinous variety, and worthy of several days' venomous bile squirted from the devil-boned quills of London/North West scrote-necked hacks? It fucking should bastard well be.
With Ireland set to go to Newcastle, Carew gone to Stoke and Sidwell gone to wherever it is he ended up, the wages situation must be in our favour now despite the money on Bent. Might free up another loan in too towards deadline day.
With Ireland set to go to Newcastle, Carew gone to Stoke and Sidwell gone to wherever it is he ended up, the wages situation must be in our favour now despite the money on Bent. Might free up another loan in too towards deadline day.
Figueroa and Samba in, Davies, Warnock and Beye out would do me nicely.
With Ireland set to go to Newcastle, Carew gone to Stoke and Sidwell gone to wherever it is he ended up, the wages situation must be in our favour now despite the money on Bent. Might free up another loan in too towards deadline day.
Don't forget we've got rid of Bouma & Harewood off the wage bill since last season also.
With Ireland set to go to Newcastle, Carew gone to Stoke and Sidwell gone to wherever it is he ended up, the wages situation must be in our favour now despite the money on Bent. Might free up another loan in too towards deadline day.
Don't forget we've got rid of Bouma & Harewood off the wage bill since last season also.
Why can't we get rid of the likes of Salifou and Osbourne who are never going to make it? I suppose it's because nobody wants them as their ability doesn't match the wages they are probably on so hopefully they can be moved on when their contracts expire. It beggars belief that they have contracts.
Salifou has been released.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Salifou has been released.
Purely speculating then...
So that is Bouma, Harewood, Sidwell, Shorey, Carew, Salifou, Milner - about 260k a week maybe off the wage bill? With Ireland, Beye, Osborne, Reo Coker and Freidel likely to be by the end of the summer too. Another 200k - 450k a week ish overall -
Ins - Makoun maybe 40k and Bent 70k ish so 110k back on. Get 3-4 more in the time between now and the end of the summer, even on 50k a week we will have cut the wage bil by 4 million a year at least players wise.
Im sure that Seb Larsson's been mentioned, question is, would you accept him?
Purely speculating then...
So that is Bouma, Harewood, Sidwell, Shorey, Carew, Salifou, Milner - about 260k a week maybe off the wage bill? With Ireland, Beye, Osborne, Reo Coker and Freidel likely to be by the end of the summer too. Another 200k - 450k a week ish overall -
Ins - Makoun maybe 40k and Bent 70k ish so 110k back on. Get 3-4 more in the time between now and the end of the summer, even on 50k a week we will have cut the wage bil by 4 million a year at least players wise.
Im sure that Seb Larsson's been mentioned, question is, would you accept him?
No because he's shit
Im sure that Seb Larsson's been mentioned, question is, would you accept him?
No because he's shit
He has mostly impressed whenever I have seen him play. Great from a dead ball too. I would take him.
He has been in my dream team for the last 3 years, i will win nothing with kidsSalifou has been released.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
We need someone like Adam because Ireland isn't doing the job he should be doing
Yes we have Reo Coker, Petrov, Delph and Makoun but they're all similar types of players - defensive minded.
Someone like Adam will give us creativity from the middle, something we've been gagging for.
I'm suprised Blues haven't tried harder to keep Larrsen, he's only on 8grand a week as its the same contract as what he was on when he first joined, think he wants to be in the same pay scale as the other first teamers but they're not giving it him.
Delph is not simply defensive and neither is Makoun. They can both spray passes around and get forward. As can Bannan.
Adam is very welcome but, at full strength, we have players who can be creative in the middle.
We need someone like Adam because Ireland isn't doing the job he should be doing
Yes we have Reo Coker, Petrov, Delph and Makoun but they're all similar types of players - defensive minded.
Someone like Adam will give us creativity from the middle, something we've been gagging for.
I'm suprised Blues haven't tried harder to keep Larrsen, he's only on 8grand a week as its the same contract as what he was on when he first joined, think he wants to be in the same pay scale as the other first teamers but they're not giving it him.
How does the poor bastard survive on such a measly sum?
Pity we didn't keep Bouma
Liverpool have just had a 4 million bid turned down by Blackpool for Adam.Ah fuck it.
If we put in a bit of £5m I can only see Liverpool coming back, if at all, with a bid of £5m and one new pence. I get the feeling they're skint.Liverpool have just had a 4 million bid turned down by Blackpool for Adam.Ah fuck it.
That's where he's going, I can guarantee it.
That's the end of that then.
having signed Bent, can we afford not to sign Adam? Bent's not a big fan of balls in from the wing, preferring to run onto them down the middle. Adam looks the ideal player to deliver that type of ball. Bent, like any striker, needs good service.Agree 100% Mr K.
Liverpool have just had a 4 million bid turned down by Blackpool for Adam.Ah fuck it.
That's where he's going, I can guarantee it.
That's the end of that then.
Villa should increase bid by a million pound and tell them this is final offer or they will not buy the player or loan them any future young players to the club.I like it.
and snap up Luis Suarez to play upfront with Bent to make it more dangerous and that will piss off Liverpool as a bonus :)
Pity we didn't keep Bouma
Are you the local manager at Greggs?
I think Bannan is better than Adam if we play 3 central midfielders but not with 2.Adam has both physical presence and vision. Bannan has vision, but no physical presence. NRC has physical presence, but can't pass. I reckon Adam would be a very good acquisition.
So with Houllier most likely wanting to play Heskey and Bent we can only have 2 central players, that's where Adam's experience and physicality comes in to play.
Personally I'd like to see Villa loan Blackpool players. Holloway, despite his comments, is a good manager and plays good football. He'd be a good custodian for our babies.Salifou, Osbourne, Warnock, Davies and Ireland get yet coats, taxi to Blackpool is waiting.
And don't come back.Personally I'd like to see Villa loan Blackpool players. Holloway, despite his comments, is a good manager and plays good football. He'd be a good custodian for our babies.Salifou, Osbourne, Warnock, Davies and Ireland get yet coats, taxi to Blackpool is waiting.
I think Bannan is better than Adam if we play 3 central midfielders but not with 2.Adam has both physical presence and vision. Bannan has vision, but no physical presence. NRC has physical presence, but can't pass. I reckon Adam would be a very good acquisition.
So with Houllier most likely wanting to play Heskey and Bent we can only have 2 central players, that's where Adam's experience and physicality comes in to play.
Bent striking with ash and albrighton wide and a midfield 3 of makoun petrov and downing would be interesting at Wigan. Gabby and heskey on the bench.I like the look of that.
Bent is a natural finisher, feed him the chances and he will score .Feed the Bent!
Albrighton can put a lovely ball in from the left swinging into the back post.
Albrighton can put a lovely ball in from the left swinging into the back post.He can - but that would then mean either Young or Downing on the right.
Albrighton can put a lovely ball in from the left swinging into the back post.He can - but that would then mean either Young or Downing on the right.
And it's a definite "no-thank you" from me on that.
Agreed, but the others aren't. Hence the reason he needs to stay there.Albrighton can put a lovely ball in from the left swinging into the back post.He can - but that would then mean either Young or Downing on the right.
And it's a definite "no-thank you" from me on that.
I agree on that score completely, just saying that Abrighton is as dangerous either side.
Our strikers have scored 4 goals between them in the league all season according to a stat on sky- that truly is a dreadful tally - play bent and with marc and ash wide they will both chip in with a few- gabby needs to regain form and confidence and improve his finishing and does not warrant a place ahead of ash, marc or downing , heskey does a lot of hard work for the team but I see him as a man to bring on as a sub if needed.
A fit and on form gabby will be an asset but he has looked a shadow of his former self and we have better on form options than him at the moment.
Bent albrighton and young will get goals and downing will add a few too.Bent is an excellent penalty taker too and we have missed a few since Barry left, with attacking full backs on the overlap I see a lot more fluidity in the team and a very good bench if we need to change our tactics- things are coming on nicely - now we need to get the results.
i wouldnt want krankjcar... hes is the dictionary definition of a highlight player... great on motd, but over a whole match, goes missing too much...
i wouldnt want krankjcar... hes is the dictionary definition of a highlight player... great on motd, but over a whole match, goes missing too much...
Spot on. And I know countless Pompey fans who would agree with you...
Kranjcar - Makoun - Delph
Best midfield in the league.
I'd buy Kranjar for 4 million and sell Downing for 12 to Liverpool!
Kranjcar - Makoun - Delph
Best midfield in the league.
i wouldnt want krankjcar... hes is the dictionary definition of a highlight player... great on motd, but over a whole match, goes missing too much...
Spot on. And I know countless Pompey fans who would agree with you...
Ha ha! Good morning, Richard! I didn't think you'd be too far away when Kranjcar is mentioned!
I like O'hara but he's more hustle and bustle rather than a ball player like Adam and I think we've got that covered so don't think he's what we need.I'd agree with that.
Adam offers something that we don't currently have so I hooe thatvthere is still some life in this deal but I have my doubts.
I think GH is thinking, Petrov = on his last legs, NRC = not enough quality in the distribution dept., Bannan = too small and physically challenged to be prominent on a regular basis and as such, Makoun will replace NRC but we still need to replace Petrov.
Adam would seemingly be a good bet for that role, but he will take a bit of levering away with his Manager talking like he's fucking Zidane reincarnated (in a football sense!).
Wonder if Carrick might come onto the radar in the summer if we miss out on Adam.Flippin' well hope not.
Wonder if Carrick might come onto the radar in the summer if we miss out on Adam.Flippin' well hope not.
We've already got a slow, crab-like central midfielder who can pass well but do very little else - and we need to upgrade on that one!
I am/was. If he were five years younger there aren't many midfielders in the league I'd swap him for.Wonder if Carrick might come onto the radar in the summer if we miss out on Adam.Flippin' well hope not.
We've already got a slow, crab-like central midfielder who can pass well but do very little else - and we need to upgrade on that one!
I thought you were a big fan of Petrov.
God I wish Ireland had turned out differently. If we could find a way to get him showing 80% of his ability we wouldn't be wasting our breath on Adam.Lost cause I fear. Such a pity because if he had his head screwed on he could be superb for us. His ability to play a killer ball to the strikers is what we are lacking at the moment.
God I wish Ireland had turned out differently. If we could find a way to get him showing 80% of his ability we wouldn't be wasting our breath on Adam.It does seem mad to think we are after a player with his abilities. He is a bloody fool. A shame but he is.
How ironic that we are talking about signing Adam when we have a midfielder like Ireland (who is a nutcase) on our books who is an infinitely better player but can't be bothered to play for us!Exactly. We need an Ireland type player but one that isn't a basket case. It makes the whole situation the more farcical. If only someone would give him the kick up the hole he needs to crack on and be the playmaker he can be and the one we are crying out for we wouldn't need someone like Adam.
It is madness achilles. On the Downing note, if Liverpool really want to give us 15 million, he is never going to be worth that kind of money so we should sell IMO.
It is madness achilles. On the Downing note, if Liverpool really want to give us 15 million, he is never going to be worth that kind of money so we should sell IMO.
If Davies has to go it'll be a shame, but if he's going to be sold you can't sell him to the Neanderthals especially being a relegation rival too. He'd vastly improve their defence.
Would love it if we had a look at Etienne Capoue from Toulouse. 6'2" built like a wall, fast as fuck and has a great eye for a pass, he's only 22 and would be much better value than Adam IMO. He and Makoun sitting with Ashley, Marc and Stew in front would make our midfield strong, fast and creative!I am totally amazed he is not on Houlliers "wanted" list. He is not quite up to speed yet cause Houllier knows we need players who are experienced and ready to go. Bet he will be on the summer shopping list ......
No.
Would you let Liverpool have Downing, if we get a free run at N'Zogbia?
Would you let Liverpool have Downing, if we get a free run at N'Zogbia?
I would.
Would you let Liverpool have Downing, if we get a free run at N'Zogbia?
I would.
Seems a few reports about regarding us buying Peter Crouch
I can see us getting Carrick in the Summer if we miss out on Adam.
Carrick is a good player, who might not look a world beater at Man U but would be class at Villa, like he was at spurs.I wouldn't have him in our current midfield.
Carrick is a good player, who might not look a world beater at Man U but would be class at Villa, like he was at spurs.I wouldn't have him in our current midfield.
So I would certainly hope he's not our idea of the upgrade that we need to our current midfield.
It's about getting the team be a better unit.
This means having central defenders who can defend and are comfortable on the ball, these don't come cheap.
If you watch Spurs / Citeh / Arse / ManUre, they see 4 teams who have 10 outfielders who are 'footballers' and teams that can pass across, back, forward comfortably - we must be aiming for that.
Of course, having 'end product' is always the most important thing, so Benty signing is a massive boost to the team.
Downing is quality, we should keep him certainly, but we need a left back who can play this way, and someone else in midfield - someone who can bring defence into attack and shoot when in the right position - wed don't do enough of that.
To be honest, I haven't seen enough of Adam (aka Zidane) to know whether he's the man.
Carrick is bobbins though. Can't run, can't tackle, can't shoot. He can pass the ball well, but that's something Petrov can do just fine. And at thirty years old, is hardly a long-term solution.Carrick is a good player, who might not look a world beater at Man U but would be class at Villa, like he was at spurs.I wouldn't have him in our current midfield.
So I would certainly hope he's not our idea of the upgrade that we need to our current midfield.
Depends really, if we are definately going 3 in the middle i can see the point. Longterm it would allow Delph to be the attacking midfielder with Makoun and Carrick sitting behind.
£12million? £40K a week? Yeah right.
Hope it comes off. He is the second worst centre back I can recall playing for us. Luckily Blues already have number one at left back too.
Carrick is a good player, who might not look a world beater at Man U but would be class at Villa, like he was at spurs.
Carrick is bobbins though. Can't run, can't tackle, can't shoot. He can pass the ball well, but that's something Petrov can do just fine. And at thirty years old, is hardly a long-term solution.Carrick is a good player, who might not look a world beater at Man U but would be class at Villa, like he was at spurs.I wouldn't have him in our current midfield.
So I would certainly hope he's not our idea of the upgrade that we need to our current midfield.
Depends really, if we are definately going 3 in the middle i can see the point. Longterm it would allow Delph to be the attacking midfielder with Makoun and Carrick sitting behind.
Adam playing the role you describe above - no problem. Carrick playing that role - definitely not.
Adam being reported on SSN as "wanting to leave" and the reporter saying his team mates cannot believe he is still there .....He was immense against Sunderland yesterday.
SaId the same a while ago shrek , contract up in summer and at £1m ish would be a great signing- irelands number 2 and much better than guzan .
It's ok saying wait to the summer and get Westwood on a free but they have already said they have recieved 4 enquiries about him- I expect someone to offer a £1m or so between now and the 31 st jan- I'd be very surprised if he wasn't snapped up by someone this week and we may miss out .
Holloway just been on sky saying he would love Charlie Adam to play for Liverpool but anyone interested would have to put a 1 in front of the transfer fee implying he wants £10m at least- I would look elsewhere now as it's pretty clear Liverpool are the team he wants to sell to to save face after saying last week no way will he sell to Aston villa.
He's like Echo. He has fallen in love with the sound of his own voice and himself.
One day Echo (who was a she) fell in love with a vain and handsome man named Narcissus. When Echo eventually revealed herself to Narcissus he recoiled in horror and told her to do one. I'm longing for that day.
I'm trying to figure out whether Narcissus is Charlie Adam or Kenny Dalglish. He fell in love with with his own reflection and topped himself if it helps.
Big story in the Irish version of the Mail on Sunday that Mancini had blocked the Given- Brad swap deal due to Joe Harts dip in form.Not suprised he should have pushed Ashley's shot away from the goal/out for a corner or caught it and he has made a couple of other mistakes recently.....Given may be back in the team for the next game
Big story in the Irish version of the Mail on Sunday that Mancini had blocked the Given- Brad swap deal due to Joe Harts dip in form.Not suprised he should have pushed Ashley's shot away from the goal/out for a corner or caught it and he has made a couple of other mistakes recently.....Given may be back in the team for the next game
You do wonder if Brad's financial position might drive him toward one last move?
Big story in the Irish version of the Mail on Sunday that Mancini had blocked the Given- Brad swap deal due to Joe Harts dip in form.Not suprised he should have pushed Ashley's shot away from the goal/out for a corner or caught it and he has made a couple of other mistakes recently.....Given may be back in the team for the next game
That's a bit harsh, I thought he did well to get anything on Young's shot. A lot of keepers it would have gone straight in.
I would look elsewhere now as it's pretty clear Liverpool are the team he wants to sell to to save face after saying last week no way will he sell to Aston villa.
He should have done alot better with Ashs' shot to be fair. Thankfully he didn't though.Big story in the Irish version of the Mail on Sunday that Mancini had blocked the Given- Brad swap deal due to Joe Harts dip in form.Not suprised he should have pushed Ashley's shot away from the goal/out for a corner or caught it and he has made a couple of other mistakes recently.....Given may be back in the team for the next game
That's a bit harsh, I thought he did well to get anything on Young's shot. A lot of keepers it would have gone straight in.
Not in my opinion im afraid mate the shot was taken from a fair way out, no deflections, no one in his line of sight, it wasnt hit that hard and at a good height for him......
I think it said it cost £20k or $20k to get a kid in the college for a year ?You do wonder if Brad's financial position might drive him toward one last move?
I read that Article, if it only costs 20k a year to run, what's the problem if he is on 40k a week?
Hart was at full stretch fior Ash's shot, he just about got his finger tips to it so had no real control over where it went - it was just a really well placed effort.
I think it said it cost £20k or $20k to get a kid in the college for a year ?You do wonder if Brad's financial position might drive him toward one last move?
I read that Article, if it only costs 20k a year to run, what's the problem if he is on 40k a week?
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press reports today that adam has demanded he be allowed to move to liverpool so that seems to be the end of that .
Adam will go to Liverpool though I think so I really can't see us signing him now.
to be fair paulie ive just read 4 different newspapers all saying adam is demanding to be allowed to liverpool, granted mirror was one of those , but if he had a choice of liverpool or us , i think he would go to liverpool in all honesty.
id love to sign adam, chris but can you really see him coming here ahead of liverpool? villa or sunderland is a much different choice to villa or liverpool sadly.
A couple of papers reporting it, however, is neither here nor there as they get far more wrong than they get right when it comes to transfer speculation.
I think we can get by if Adam goes to Liverpool,and move onto new targets in the summer.
Also we've got a hell of a passer in wee Barry.
A couple of papers reporting it, however, is neither here nor there as they get far more wrong than they get right when it comes to transfer speculation.
It has been interesting seeing how little the papers really do know about transfers in this window.
Witness the way we managed to keep any mention of Bent out of the papers until the day before we signed him.
If you look at that Nicko's stuff on that Blackburn site, for all the worshipping of him and his "eleven o'clockers" (in which he waits for the papers to go to press then releases the same pointless, made up nonsense you'll see in the Mirror the next day), he gets hardly anything right.
On reflection, I'd go £5m with some unrealistic add ons (Captains Scotland to a World cup win, Brokers peace in the Middle East, Cures AIDS)If the add-ons work, think the deal would be 5millions raising to 250million.
seems clear Adam is trying to force the issue and of course he wants to treble his wages or more and join a bigger club- we could catch Blackpool on points tomorrow and they are far more likely to go down than us .
DalgLish just on sky declined to discuss any link to Charlie Adam. The Person who is leaking news of these reported bids to the media is holloway himself- the fool can't see he is guilty of unsettling his own star player!
I used to like listening to holloway but in the last fortnight he has appeared a twat and I can now see why he been sacked so often.
DalgLish just on sky declined to discuss any link to Charlie Adam. The Person who is leaking news of these reported bids to the media is holloway himself- the fool can't see he is guilty of unsettling his own star player!
I used to like listening to holloway but in the last fortnight he has appeared a twat and I can now see why he been sacked so often.
You altered your post. Are you saying denied any link or declined to speak about it?
sorry maz and bentman , was in kitchen at time , thought they said denied but actually said declined to speak about it - still i dont think liverpool will be impressed the way holloway is mouthing off to the press about them either .
no point holloway waiting until the last day because he would surely need to spend the money on players.
Adams ?
Remember Sidwell
Adams ?I'm at a loss as to why people make that comparison.
Remember Sidwell
Adams ?I'm at a loss as to why people make that comparison.
Remember Sidwell
Totally different midfielders.
If it's a snow comparison you're after, I'd say Sidwell is like the not to be trodden on, yellow snow.Adams ?I'm at a loss as to why people make that comparison.
Remember Sidwell
Totally different midfielders.
ultimately players are like snowdrops, no two are ever the same
Adams ?I'm at a loss as to why people make that comparison.
Remember Sidwell
Totally different midfielders.
Adam hands in Transfer Request - on SNN
Adams ?
Remember Sidwell
I do, I also remember Young and Milner.
can only see him going to Liverpool im afraid,hope im wrong!
can only see him going to Liverpool im afraid,hope im wrong!
from what i've seen of Adam, he looks a good player,my manure mates all want bannon and albrighton...
but i would say no better than Bannan will be shortly, and he might stifle bannans devolpment, i would stick with bannan, like tonyd says
the way he controlled the midfield against man utd, i'd say he isnt far of a first team place anyway given a bit more experience
i was in the pub with some man utd fans on sunday night, i said we might be in for Carrick in the summer, they said no probs straight swop for bannan, they all really rated him, which is supprising as they dont normaly rate anyone only there own
Wherever he goes looks like Blackpool are in freefall and dropping like a stone - GH due on ssn shortly as well. Holloway has brought the attention on adam himself with his constant ravings and now he must take the consequences.
from what i've seen of Adam, he looks a good player,
but i would say no better than Bannan will be shortly, and he might stifle bannans devolpment, i would stick with bannan, like tonyd says
the way he controlled the midfield against man utd, i'd say he isnt far of a first team place anyway given a bit more experience
i was in the pub with some man utd fans on sunday night, i said we might be in for Carrick in the summer, they said no probs straight swop for bannan, they all really rated him, which is supprising as they dont normaly rate anyone only there own
Which was...?
I think he means snow flakes and not the flowers lolIf it's a snow comparison you're after, I'd say Sidwell is like the not to be trodden on, yellow snow.Adams ?I'm at a loss as to why people make that comparison.
Remember Sidwell
Totally different midfielders.
ultimately players are like snowdrops, no two are ever the same
Blackpool reject Adam's transfer request.
End well this will not.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2011/01/24/kyle-walker-returns-to-villa-squad/
Warnocks last match?
Adams ?
Remember Sidwell
I do, I also remember Young and Milner.
So do I and if you weren't so keen to jump on the 'save Mons arse bandwagon' you'd understand perhaps, that I meant they were both Championship players who had a good Prem season and moved on, not very successfully.
No matter
End well this will not.
Holloway showing his inexperience here
He's out of his depth in the PL
I'd prefer honda in the free role, ash and downing wide and makoun and stanny holding the midfield together. Delph can take over from stan over the next 18 months and give us the left footed balance Adam would.
Saying that I wouldn't mind adam, I just really like honda. He could be what ireland should have.
I'd prefer honda in the free role, ash and downing wide and makoun and stanny holding the midfield together. Delph can take over from stan over the next 18 months and give us the left footed balance Adam would.
Saying that I wouldn't mind adam, I just really like honda. He could be what ireland should have.
I like the cut of your jib.
Which was...?
Which was...?
"I phoned Steve Bruce yesterday, it's better done over the phone, that way I don't have to see his horrible, grotesquely mutated face"
i dunno
I really dont see what all the fuss is about Adam, if he is that good why has he not been snapped up before ?? He is a average player in an average team. We have a lot better in the squad already and I would prefer the management team
to spend the time trying to get Mr Ireland playing in the team as on his day he is twice the player Adam is. I know Ireland needs to buckle down as well but he would be a great asset
Seven days to go with two match days included - any more signings to come?Yeah I reckon 1, a left back and we'll have to wait for a midfielder until the summer. I reckon Gerrard will wait for right man if he can't get Adam.
I really dont see what all the fuss is about Adam, if he is that good why has he not been snapped up before ?? He is a average player in an average team. We have a lot better in the squad already and I would prefer the management team
to spend the time trying to get Mr Ireland playing in the team as on his day he is twice the player Adam is. I know Ireland needs to buckle down as well but he would be a great asset
I really dont see what all the fuss is about Adam, if he is that good why has he not been snapped up before ?? He is a average player in an average team. We have a lot better in the squad already and I would prefer the management team
to spend the time trying to get Mr Ireland playing in the team as on his day he is twice the player Adam is. I know Ireland needs to buckle down as well but he would be a great asset
I watched a Youtube video of Bent before he signed and a lot of his goals came from defence splitting passes from midfield, something which Ireland does very well.
There seems to be a bit more of a togetherness about the team since Ireland disapeared out of the picture though, so whether he'd be able to fight his way back remains to be seen.
I really dont see what all the fuss is about Adam, if he is that good why has he not been snapped up before ?? He is a average player in an average team. We have a lot better in the squad already and I would prefer the management team
to spend the time trying to get Mr Ireland playing in the team as on his day he is twice the player Adam is. I know Ireland needs to buckle down as well but he would be a great asset
Where is he? Ireland I mean.
Would Honda be an automatic starter ? ;)Hi Mersey. Honda is a class player and is ready to go. He would fit in the middle with Makoun very well. Energy, good on the ball with a high work rate ......PS plus the millions the club would make on Eastern merchandise .......
Where is he? Ireland I mean.
Would Honda be an automatic starter ? ;)
Would Honda be an automatic starter ? ;)
Adam make good stop gap until kids fit. Ireland hurt his knee in training a bit a go, not sure when.
Shame it hasn't worked out as I've always rated Ireland.Yep,i was pleased he came here,as i've always thought he was a good player,he obviously didn't wanna come,and its a shame that the stories of him being a bit of a fruit cake seem to be true.
If we are paying him £70k a weekA shocking amount for somebody who has contributed the square root of fuck all.
I think Houllier very early on took Warnock, Dunne and Ireland to task, but only one of them has responded.
taraabt, as much natural ability as he has, doesnt have the discipline to be a real team player at a club like villa... its why he failed at spuds...
warnock allows him to do what he likes as long as no one gives him the ball in his own half...
not the sort of player i would want at the vill...
Another player with the talent but not the attitude- when he's older he will sit mulling over his pint of boddingtons and wonder what might have been.
Another player with the talent but not the attitude- when he's older he will sit mulling over his pint of boddingtons and wonder what might have been.
I've been told Ireland isn't that arsed about football. He's not like a Wayne rooney or a beckham that lives and breathes it and can not wait to get on the pitch.
Ireland sees it as a job, one that pays well but nothing more
Another player with the talent but not the attitude- when he's older he will sit mulling over his pint of boddingtons and wonder what might have been.
I've been told Ireland isn't that arsed about football. He's not like a Wayne rooney or a beckham that lives and breathes it and can not wait to get on the pitch.
Ireland sees it as a job, one that pays well but nothing more
I'm not surprised by that or I guess anyone else should be, who did you hear that from?
Good loan move for Hogg.Agree with this, reckon he'll have a good career but maybe in the lower leagues
He doesn't excite me. He works hard and can put a boot in, but he's not up there with Albrighton & Clark IMO.
I'd send Gardner out on loan aswell, could end up like Wilshere with a decent loan spell second half the season, the next season straight into the Arsenal first team.
Would like to see Lichaj go out on loan too as we are now well covered at right back with Walker, L Young, Beye and Cuellar.
Why do people keep calling him Adams? Its Adam! Just saying like ;)
i would of offered blackpool 4 milion and hogg until end of season for adam
The whole Adams thing is very annoying!
See also Mary Hopkin, she must despair.
See also Mary Hopkin, she must despair.
Why do people keep calling him Adams? Its Adam! Just saying like ;)
Guess it's because we're a half arsed bunch of supporters.
Why do people keep calling him Adams? Its Adam! Just saying like ;)
Guess it's because we're a half arsed bunch of supporters.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Transfer-news-Blackpool-have-told-Liverpool-Charlie-Adam-will-cost-them-12million-and-the-proposed-move-could-now-collapse-article681935.html
£12 million for Adam...ha ha, good one. It is The Mirror though...
From BBC
Chelsea have had a £52m bid for Atletico Madrid striker Sergio Aguero and defender Diego Godin rejected.
Kendrick said we were looking elsewhere for a left back but nothing had become available and we were no nearer identifying one- I agree a left back should be top priority, as I don't see warnock or beye ever playing again for us.The Times say that we're still after Figueroa.
I'd much rather us buy Adam than Jenas.Agree.
If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.Delph boots the boot in.
If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.
If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.Delph boots the boot in.
Just seen Houllier say there will not be any more transfers on last nights Sky interview
'Jenas' should be filed alongside 'Keane', 'Bull', 'Palmer' and 'Drinkell'.
those two wins have secured our survival
Is Adam adamant ?No. Stuart Goddard is, or was.
If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.
Got a feeling Houllier may offer NRC a new deal
Just seen Houllier say there will not be any more transfers on last nights Sky interview
Heard that too. The big tease!
A fairly good player but not worth a hefty wage increase he is asking for, i think hogg could do his job next season.If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.
Got a feeling Houllier may offer NRC a new deal
I hope so, Nigel is a good player, not the best but does a really good job like last night. He has that bite we miss when he isn't playing.
If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.
Got a feeling Houllier may offer NRC a new deal
I hope so, Nigel is a good player, not the best but does a really good job like last night. He has that bite we miss when he isn't playing.
Didn't Gerard say he was looking to offer him a new deal when he took over?A fairly good player but not worth a hefty wage increase he is asking for, i think hogg could do his job next season.If NRC goes in the summer though, we will still be light of a player who can put a foot in.
Got a feeling Houllier may offer NRC a new deal
I hope so, Nigel is a good player, not the best but does a really good job like last night. He has that bite we miss when he isn't playing.
Most of our business will be done in the Summer now, but i'd still make an effort to get a left back.
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2011/01/26/a-psychological-boost-for-villa-boss/
Ged is happy with our left back options apparently.
I hope we're not selling Davies to SHA
Kendrick said the other day houllier has now ended his interest in Adam.
Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?
I'd go for Kranjcar. Reckon we'd get him for about £5m.
Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?
On what evidence do we give him another go?
On what "evidence" ie actual quotes should we not give him another goHe's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
On what "evidence" ie actual quotes should we not give him another goHe's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
He's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
Yawn.....again where is your actual evidence of his "shite attitude"On what "evidence" ie actual quotes should we not give him another goHe's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
I think we should tell him to shit off. Thanks to his shite attitude already, he can miss out on the Randy revolution, the weird, bald little cock.
He's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
How has he done that when he's injured? Get rid of the waster.
Yawn.....again where is your actual evidence of his "shite attitude"On what "evidence" ie actual quotes should we not give him another goHe's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
I think we should tell him to shit off. Thanks to his shite attitude already, he can miss out on the Randy revolution, the weird, bald little cock.
So you have no evidence just what you have read on here, if Ged has said it where, when.........Yawn.....again where is your actual evidence of his "shite attitude"On what "evidence" ie actual quotes should we not give him another goHe's bucked-up his ideas in training apparently and we've invested a tidy sum in him.Jenas and Adam....Jesus wept. Can't we just give Ireland - a better player than both and actually a Villa player, another go?On what evidence do we give him another go?
I think we should tell him to shit off. Thanks to his shite attitude already, he can miss out on the Randy revolution, the weird, bald little cock.
Are you mad? It's a known fact that he wants / wanted to leave after 3 months, Ged said as much. And i've actually watched him play. What more evidence do you need. Fucking yawn off.
Chill out with the Quotezilla guys.Sorry
If there's any chance at at all that Ireland's Villa career can be resurrected we should certainly give it a try. There's a great player in there somewhere.I agree
Dunne has shown that you can make it up with Houllier, so Ireland (and Warnock) shouldn't necessarily be written off just yet.
Count me in for this.If there's any chance at at all that Ireland's Villa career can be resurrected we should certainly give it a try. There's a great player in there somewhere.I agree
Dunne has shown that you can make it up with Houllier, so Ireland (and Warnock) shouldn't necessarily be written off just yet.
If there's any chance at at all that Ireland's Villa career can be resurrected we should certainly give it a try. There's a great player in there somewhere.
Dunne has shown that you can make it up with Houllier, so Ireland (and Warnock) shouldn't necessarily be written off just yet.
Yea old Matty k babbling on about maybe one more signing ( as above). Hope so. I personally think we need a better heskey type play to play up with benty or an attacking cm. I have a feeling it may be a cm though or samba ( but do we need a cb) ??
would like to see Charlie Adam but think we may need someone with a bit more top flight experience
But do u remember the old if adebyor goes to Madrid we could get benzema. WOW benzema and benty up top :-)
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlThanks for the link..........very informative it has helped the "intellectually challenged amonst us " (i think u mean amongst us)
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
Where has this stuff about Liverpool pulling out come from?Same place as the Warnock going to Liverpool on loan rumours ??
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlThanks for the link..........very informative it has helped the "intellectually challenged amonst us " (i think u mean amongst us)
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
No I have to practice spelling amongsthttp://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlThanks for the link..........very informative it has helped the "intellectually challenged amonst us " (i think u mean amongst us)
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
Shouldn't you be in bed, school in the morning sunshine?
Mirror website repoting Liverpool have pulled out of Adam bid after losing patience and have relayed that to Blackpool- cant paste link as I'm on iPod-says they may look to nzogbia instead now.
No I have to practice spelling amongsthttp://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlThanks for the link..........very informative it has helped the "intellectually challenged amonst us " (i think u mean amongst us)
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
Shouldn't you be in bed, school in the morning sunshine?
If u say so........yawn, nite niteNo, you are just making yourself look like a twat.No I have to practice spelling amongsthttp://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlThanks for the link..........very informative it has helped the "intellectually challenged amonst us " (i think u mean amongst us)
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
Shouldn't you be in bed, school in the morning sunshine?
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlI can probably find you quotes from Houllier saying how we're not going to sign a striker from four days before we smashed our transfer record to sign one.
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
Wigan have offered Coventry £1m for Kieran Westwood...
...gotta be worth a bid! We could even offer them Andy Marshall back!
http://www.premierleague.com/page/Headlines/0,,12306~2247685,00.htmlI can probably find you quotes from Houllier saying how we're not going to sign a striker from four days before we smashed our transfer record to sign one.
Never going to happen. See Curcic, see Collymore etc.
For the more pedantic and intellectually challenged amonst us (actually needing evidence) read a few quotes from the above. Now, i'd like evidence of a similar situation in our history where it has turned around and worked out well.........
It means bugger all. I still think Ireland will continue to be a waster and probably leave on loan in the next five days. But a couple of non-committal quotes from Houllier mean very little.
Personally, i didn't need to see any quotes, just watching him play for us was enough to convince me.Fair point. He does display the skill of Harewood without the effort of Harewood when he's playing.
Oh Paulie don't be so silly. It's in the papers. It must be true.Mirror website repoting Liverpool have pulled out of Adam bid after losing patience and have relayed that to Blackpool- cant paste link as I'm on iPod-says they may look to nzogbia instead now.
Ah, not the most reliable of sources, then.
Personally, i didn't need to see any quotes, just watching him play for us was enough to convince me.Fair point. He does display the skill of Harewood without the effort of Harewood when he's playing.
Mirror website repoting Liverpool have pulled out of Adam bid after losing patience and have relayed that to Blackpool- cant paste link as I'm on iPod-says they may look to nzogbia instead now.
Ah, not the most reliable of sources, then.
Kendrick's tweet
Could be Larsson and £1.5 million coming to #avfc with Davies going to #bcfc or straight £3.5 million #bcfc cash offer for Davies apparently
Kendrick's tweet
Could be Larsson and £1.5 million coming to #avfc with Davies going to #bcfc or straight £3.5 million #bcfc cash offer for Davies apparently
Christ. Why would we want Larsson?
Kendrick's tweet
Could be Larsson and £1.5 million coming to #avfc with Davies going to #bcfc or straight £3.5 million #bcfc cash offer for Davies apparently
Christ. Why would we want Larsson?
He's got a fantastic delivery from set pieces. Can't see him being any more than a squad player.
Nor me.Kendrick's tweet
Could be Larsson and £1.5 million coming to #avfc with Davies going to #bcfc or straight £3.5 million #bcfc cash offer for Davies apparently
Christ. Why would we want Larsson?
He's got a fantastic delivery from set pieces. Can't see him being any more than a squad player.
That's it, though.
Oh, and the fact it'd piss the noses off, maybe, but other than that, I can't think of another decent reason to sign him.
Larssan is shit and a total waste of time. The amount of playing time he would get would simply hold our young lads back.I wouldn't say shit, but certainly not good enough and plays in a position we don't need.
Rather use the cash from davies to sign Westwood as a back up keeper- Larsson isn't good enough to get near our teamAgree.
Well said Greg, davies was not good enough to get ahead of our 4 central defenders, not overkeen on larsson though, not seen you for a week or so, what do you make of this holloway business where ge gets a cut of the profit on adam?I've now got a vision of Greg as a mystic Indian Guru sitting on top of a mountain.
Am I hearing/seeing right? Rather Larsson than Adam? Playing Larsson before Albrighton?I do think Larsson's better than Adam, thats as far as i'd go though, don't want either of them
Absolute nonsense.
Larsson is nowhere near as good as Albrighton with a small percentage of the potential and talent.
He's not shit, is commited and takes a good set piece but he would be nothing more than a 4th choice winger and I question whether Bannan should play wide before he does. I'd sooner play him han Pires though but that's about it.
Please dont do this Houllier. Take the cash and if they can't afford it, tell them to fuck off, or get Johnson or even Ridgewell back at left back.
We just dont need Larsson. Obviously I'll back him if we get him but he'd better not hold anybody back.
Well said Greg, davies was not good enough to get ahead of our 4 central defenders, not overkeen on larsson though, not seen you for a week or so, what do you make of this holloway business where ge gets a cut of the profit on adam?I've now got a vision of Greg as a mystic Indian Guru sitting on top of a mountain.
The remaining Beatles will want an audience with him next.
I'd like to see us tell them to fuck off, why should we help that shower of shit strengthen their team??
they saw him play.Who? A pub player called Emily?
even Ridgewell back at left back.NNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
I'd have said Winnie Mandela.Well said Greg, davies was not good enough to get ahead of our 4 central defenders, not overkeen on larsson though, not seen you for a week or so, what do you make of this holloway business where ge gets a cut of the profit on adam?I've now got a vision of Greg as a mystic Indian Guru sitting on top of a mountain.
The remaining Beatles will want an audience with him next.
i see myself as more of an omnipresent force for good in the background rather than a spiritual leader. Villa's version of Nelson Mandela say.
I see Larsson as the best set-piece taker in the Premiership. He is lethal at free kicks and corners and a good crosser from open play. I also think he is the key player for City, so the sooner he goes the better.
I would agree that the rest of his play is suspect but that might improve with coaching and having better players around him.
If only we were all owners or managers-Eh?
Maz,
You usually post a lot of sense on here when it comes to transfers and anything else Villa are up to. But Ridgewell? Are you taking the piss mate?
I see Larsson as the best set-piece taker in the Premiership.
I've said all along that I think Curtis is a very decent player who was badly hampered by his shoulder injury and then totally lost confidence. I concede that at the moment he's not good enough to get in our team but I really do believe that, with a decent run of games , he will look the part again. Therefore I dont want to see him playing for those wankersI'd like to see us tell them to fuck off, why should we help that shower of shit strengthen their team??
eh?
GH has enough transfer credits in the bank for me - I trust his judgement.
Well said Greg, davies was not good enough to get ahead of our 4 central defenders, not overkeen on larsson though, not seen you for a week or so, what do you make of this holloway business where ge gets a cut of the profit on adam?I've now got a vision of Greg as a mystic Indian Guru sitting on top of a mountain.
The remaining Beatles will want an audience with him next.
Personally, and I know this may come across as being small minded, but we should never do business for players with Blose.
I don't want to see any ex blues shit in a Villa shirt similarly I don't want to sell them Davies either, I'd rather see them go out of business
I don't want to see any ex blues shit in a Villa shirt similarly I don't want to sell them Davies either, I'd rather see them go out of business
what about Ivanhoe ?
He was playing for Wigan when we signed him a couple of years ago.I don't want to see any ex blues shit in a Villa shirt similarly I don't want to sell them Davies either, I'd rather see them go out of business
what about Ivanhoe ?
Think about it.
If he was that good, would The Dog shit let him go?
They're not exactly over blessed with players, let alone creative ones.
Think about it.
If he was that good, would The Dog shit let him go?
They're not exactly over blessed with players, let alone creative ones.
Maz,
You usually post a lot of sense on here when it comes to transfers and anything else Villa are up to. But Ridgewell? Are you taking the piss mate?
Well... yes.
I was just trying to say something vaguely dramatic to emphasise how indifferent I am to signing Larsson.
I don't want to see any ex blues shit in a Villa shirt similarly I don't want to sell them Davies either, I'd rather see them go out of business
We do not want "squad players" in fact we have just started the process of getting rid of them. Sidwell, Shorey, Gardner, etc. Players we now want are replacements for first team players. Bent for Carew, Makoun for Reo/Petrov. Our Squad players are our up and coming young players. Bannan, Clarke, Baker. Larsson has been valued at £5oo,ooo. How much is Clarke or Bannan worth ? Loan out Davies (not to the scum) and if he comes good, get a better price for him while he is off the wage bill ..........
Davies isn't a bad defender on his day , but we have 4 quality centre halves already so can afford to let him leave, with dann injured he will probably play in the final for them, but when dann is fit I think Curtis will be a reserve there too.He can't he's cup tied he played against Blackburn for us
Davies isn't a bad defender on his day , but we have 4 quality centre halves already so can afford to let him leave, with dann injured he will probably play in the final for them, but when dann is fit I think Curtis will be a reserve there too.I don't think he has ever done that much wrong, The Baggies realised what a mug MON was so thats why they inflated the fee.
What makes "no sense" is to buy an average player on high wages in a position we have several players who can play there at the same level or even better than Larsson ?? Gabby is already struggling to get on the pitch. Are you saying we should buy Larsson on the basis of having "more" squad players in one position when we do not even have one established left back ???We do not want "squad players" in fact we have just started the process of getting rid of them. Sidwell, Shorey, Gardner, etc. Players we now want are replacements for first team players. Bent for Carew, Makoun for Reo/Petrov. Our Squad players are our up and coming young players. Bannan, Clarke, Baker. Larsson has been valued at £5oo,ooo. How much is Clarke or Bannan worth ? Loan out Davies (not to the scum) and if he comes good, get a better price for him while he is off the wage bill ..........
That makes no sense, we have to have a full squad if we want to be competive and inevitably some players will feature more than others. Players get injured, suspended, rotated or lose form and we have to have alternatives. He's a good player and at this sort of price seems worth a go.
If we get short on the wing, why can't we play somebody out of position there?We do not want "squad players" in fact we have just started the process of getting rid of them. Sidwell, Shorey, Gardner, etc. Players we now want are replacements for first team players. Bent for Carew, Makoun for Reo/Petrov. Our Squad players are our up and coming young players. Bannan, Clarke, Baker. Larsson has been valued at £5oo,ooo. How much is Clarke or Bannan worth ? Loan out Davies (not to the scum) and if he comes good, get a better price for him while he is off the wage bill ..........
That makes no sense, we have to have a full squad if we want to be competive and inevitably some players will feature more than others. Players get injured, suspended, rotated or lose form and we have to have alternatives. He's a good player and at this sort of price seems worth a go.
Sky reporting it now: http://is.gd/XSnqbq'Sky sports understands'
My point is. We have Ash, Gabby, Downing and Albrighton already who play on the right. Why do we need a very average player on high wages sitting on the bench ?? If he was a top class left back its a straight yes .........If we get short on the wing, why can't we play somebody out of position there?We do not want "squad players" in fact we have just started the process of getting rid of them. Sidwell, Shorey, Gardner, etc. Players we now want are replacements for first team players. Bent for Carew, Makoun for Reo/Petrov. Our Squad players are our up and coming young players. Bannan, Clarke, Baker. Larsson has been valued at £5oo,ooo. How much is Clarke or Bannan worth ? Loan out Davies (not to the scum) and if he comes good, get a better price for him while he is off the wage bill ..........
That makes no sense, we have to have a full squad if we want to be competive and inevitably some players will feature more than others. Players get injured, suspended, rotated or lose form and we have to have alternatives. He's a good player and at this sort of price seems worth a go.
Mix and match.
So because we need a left back we don't sign player for any other position? Our squad is amongst the smallest in the league, there is a strong chance that Reo Coker and Young will go in the summer, Larsson is available now for a modest fee, can play in a number of positions and is already proven in the PL not a player of promise like our youngsters. I don't see what the problem is.The squad was small under O'Neill, but you never had any problem with it then.
My point is. We have Ash, Gabby, Downing and Albrighton already who play on the right. Why do we need a very average player on high wages sitting on the bench ?? If he was a top class left back its a straight yes .........
So because we need a left back we don't sign player for any other position? Our squad is amongst the smallest in the league, there is a strong chance that Reo Coker and Young will go in the summer, Larsson is available now for a modest fee, can play in a number of positions and is already proven in the PL not a player of promise like our youngsters. I don't see what the problem is.The squad was small under O'Neill, but you never had any problem with it then.
Why now?
Fair enough Chris.So because we need a left back we don't sign player for any other position? Our squad is amongst the smallest in the league, there is a strong chance that Reo Coker and Young will go in the summer, Larsson is available now for a modest fee, can play in a number of positions and is already proven in the PL not a player of promise like our youngsters. I don't see what the problem is.The squad was small under O'Neill, but you never had any problem with it then.
Why now?
Of course I wanted us to improve the squad, not just any old player but those who I thought would improve it. I think he's a decent player so I can see the sense in it, if it was Michael Brown I'd be against it.
It rankles that we're letting Davies go after paying £9.5m for him.
Was he worth perservering with?
We're light at LB and RM as I see it. Okay, we've got one or two young lads who may do a squad job at LB, but not even sure if we've got a young RM coming through.
I think we'd be better covered at RM if Gezza didn't insist on playing Young off the striker. I see Albrighton as first choice, but if he's not available I'd like to see Ash play there (better on the right than Downing) and someone else come into the centre. Or maybe even go 4-4-2 with Gabby up top with bent.
Totally agree about LB.
My only problem with it is Curtis' value is £3.5m and they want to give us him and £1.5 making Larsson, who contract is up in the summer, worth £2m ???? Not sure on that.
My only problem with it is Curtis' value is £3.5m and they want to give us him and £1.5 making Larsson, who contract is up in the summer, worth £2m ???? Not sure on that.
Excellent point. Pinear went for £3m though in the same circumstances and although he's done a lot more to justify a high fee than Larsson has, taking a third off his value might be about right. Guess it's all to do with what he'd be worth if he still had three years on his contract.
Not sure our squad is particularly small, it's the quality that's lacking, imo we could lose Warnock, Ireland, Beye, Salifou, Osbourne, Marshall, Pires and Davies and bring in say only Figueroa, Larson and Adam and be far stronger, even with less players. Having 5 or 6 guys out injured doesn't help and is unusual, but we still have several senior players who don't make the matchday squads.
All I know is Seb Larssan is not good enough for Villa.
All I know is Seb Larssan is not good enough for Villa.
Not sure our squad is particularly small, it's the quality that's lacking, imo we could lose Warnock, Ireland, Beye, Salifou, Osbourne, Marshall, Pires and Davies and bring in say only Figueroa, Larson and Adam and be far stronger, even with less players. Having 5 or 6 guys out injured doesn't help and is unusual, but we still have several senior players who don't make the matchday squads.
You're right to an extent, but I think the issue is that some of the 'quality' we do have is not producing, such as Ireland and Warnock. We also have questions over too many players and so properly judging what we need becomes difficult until they are answered:-
1. Is NRC staying?
2. Is Young staying?
3. Can Gabby successfully convert to being a wide player?
4. Which of the kids are going to REALLY come through?
5. Where will Ciaran Clark actually play?
We have plenty of numbers, but where we need to sell and buy is still up in the air other than one or two obvious positions, such as LB and GK.
Not sure our squad is particularly small, it's the quality that's lacking, imo we could lose Warnock, Ireland, Beye, Salifou, Osbourne, Marshall, Pires and Davies and bring in say only Figueroa, Larson and Adam and be far stronger, even with less players. Having 5 or 6 guys out injured doesn't help and is unusual, but we still have several senior players who don't make the matchday squads.
You're right to an extent, but I think the issue is that some of the 'quality' we do have is not producing, such as Ireland and Warnock. We also have questions over too many players and so properly judging what we need becomes difficult until they are answered:-
1. Is NRC staying?
2. Is Young staying?
3. Can Gabby successfully convert to being a wide player?
4. Which of the kids are going to REALLY come through?
5. Where will Ciaran Clark actually play?
We have plenty of numbers, but where we need to sell and buy is still up in the air other than one or two obvious positions, such as LB and GK.
To answer your questions:
1. Probably not, I believe.
2. Doubtful, say 50/50
3. No!!!
4. The million dollar question - if GH knew the answer to that it would make his life a lot easier!
5. Eventually centre back, but these matches at full back are good for his development.
All my opinion, of course.
All I know is Seb Larssan is not good enough for Villa.
Good job you aren't Villa's manager then. He's 25, can play on either wing, as left or right fullback, in central midfield, is highly rated by Wenger and costs around a million.
Do for me be nice to hear him say he's joined a top club etc.
Didn't you say Walker and Bent were shit too, or was that someone else, my apologies if it was.
Yes, for a million quid. He isnt highly rated by Wenger I'd wager.The Mail say that Houllier sought Wenger's opinion of him, which was positive.
Yes, for a million quid. He isnt highly rated by Wenger I'd wager.The Mail say that Houllier sought Wenger's opinion of him, which was positive.
Odd, as he fucked him off.
Yes, for a million quid. He isnt highly rated by Wenger I'd wager.The Mail say that Houllier sought Wenger's opinion of him, which was positive.
Odd, as he fucked him off.
Wenger also recommended Pires. Say no more .......EDIT: sorry was sent straight after.Yes, for a million quid. He isnt highly rated by Wenger I'd wager.The Mail say that Houllier sought Wenger's opinion of him, which was positive.
Odd, as he fucked him off.
I don't want to see any ex blues shit in a Villa shirt similarly I don't want to sell them Davies either, I'd rather see them go out of business
It's a good job we didn't have that thought when building our league and European cup winning team.
Larsson is a decent player, would be a useful sqaud memeber and Davies hasn't lived up to his potential so we need to offload. We have to be hard headed about this.
I love Marc, bloody love him. He's going to be great. But for all his hardwork and random sliding tackles he's dodgy defensively and he often makes the wrong decisions. Larsson offers something different, better decision making, a great delivery (not that Marc doesn't have that) and more comfortable on the ball and capable on the right, in the middle, or right back and can cover left back and left wing too.
Beefs out the squad a bit, I'd be happy with it.
So what?
Larsson - Petrov - Makoun
Ash - Bent - Gabby
Nothing to lose, as long as he does not interfere with Albrighton's development, which I'm sure it wont. Marc's got a lot to learn and he is not always going to be fit or in form so why not?
So what?
Larsson - Petrov - Makoun
Ash - Bent - Gabby
Makoun - Delph
Albrighton - Young - Downing
Bent (or Gabby)
So what?
Larsson - Petrov - Makoun
Ash - Bent - Gabby
Makoun - Delph
Albrighton - Young - Downing
Bent (or Gabby)
There's not a lot of tackling going to be done in that midfield 5, other than from Delph.
So what?
Larsson - Petrov - Makoun
Ash - Bent - Gabby
Makoun - Delph
Albrighton - Young - Downing
Bent (or Gabby)
There's not a lot of tackling going to be done in that midfield 5, other than from Delph.
Makoun?
think davies will be a good signing for Bham if it comes off. He had many good games for the club but our roster at centre half is full at the moment.
We can be outnumbered in the midfield a bit with Young, Downing or Albrighton out wide. Larsson will tuck in a bit and works harder. Albrighton and Downing can be liabilities in this regard. A good crosser of the ball but very one paced. Cant see us losing any money on him anyway so its a bit of a no risk signing.
Davies 1.75 million that's way to cheap didn't the mail mention 3.5 million??
Also may I think Seb would deserve props if he joined us this month, hes practically giving up on a medal to join us 6 months early rather than risk us not being interested in the summer
Also may I think Seb would deserve props if he joined us this month, hes practically giving up on a medal to join us 6 months early rather than risk us not being interested in the summer
Practically giving up on a medal?
So it's pretty much a given that Blues are going to beat Arsenal?
I agree Kevin, I think he will turn it down in the same way he did Newcastle to keep open his options till the summer.
Still can't see it happening Maz. He will getter better money waiting till the summer, and will have a fight on to get in the team. Fair play to the lad if he is up for the fight to do so though, and squad wise I think he would be a good addition. Look at the way Houllier is rotating and has publicly stated he will keep doing so. It means you need good players to make up that squad. Would not be shocked to see him come and play more centrally either, if he does sign.
Still can't see it happening Maz. He will getter better money waiting till the summer, and will have a fight on to get in the team. Fair play to the lad if he is up for the fight to do so though, and squad wise I think he would be a good addition. Look at the way Houllier is rotating and has publicly stated he will keep doing so. It means you need good players to make up that squad. Would not be shocked to see him come and play more centrally either, if he does sign.
According to a few folks behind the scenes, its Blose trying to push this, not us. Houllier isnt sure if Larsson would be any good to us and Blose are trying to save money by offering a player they know is off in the summer anyway. Also, Davies would prefer to go to Leicester but we'd prefer a permanent deal for him rather than a loan.
Not sure how accurate all that is but it makes sense to me.
For myself, I'd prefer Larsson to nothing but I'd rather buy a better player in the summer than have Larsson on the payroll for 3 or 4 years, doing very little.
But of course, if he comes I will support him 100% and he's not without his plus points.
I can see why Houllier would be tempted to buy Larrson
- first off hes on minimal wages and the cost is barely anything
- he's a hardworking player and not someone whos disruptive
- versatile
- we've been playing all of Albrighton, Downing and Young. They will get tired during games, especially Albrighton whos looked fatigues at times. We need a bench thats able to compete, at the moment we have Robert Pires as our attacking midfield option if we don't want to reshuffle our formation.
It's a low risk, low cost, decent squad option
He may not be the signing everyones crying out for, but I don't see why anyone would rather us not sign him when squads are so important these days and theres such a low risk.
Edit: plus I hate Larrson when we play Blues, which is usually a compliment
Looks like he won't be coming anyway.
Cue lots of volte faces
'Ah, he was shit anyway.'
Meanwhile, Birmingham are making a £2.5m bid for Aston Villa central defender Curtis Davies after ruling out offloading winger Sebastian Larsson in a player-plus cash swap deal.
Full story: Daily Mirror
I know.Looks like he won't be coming anyway.
Cue lots of volte faces
'Ah, he was shit anyway.'
Meanwhile, Birmingham are making a £2.5m bid for Aston Villa central defender Curtis Davies after ruling out offloading winger Sebastian Larsson in a player-plus cash swap deal.
Full story: Daily Mirror
It's the Mirror.
If celtic are that keen on ireland lets offer him on loan as prt of a deal for their left back, the figure of £2.5m for davies was widely reported last week , id be very surprised if blues paid £3.5m.Celtic haven't got a pot to piss in, so I doubt they could even afford his wages, I don't think they contributed anything towards Bellamy's when he was there.
For myself, I'd prefer Larsson to nothing but I'd rather buy a better player in the summer than have Larsson on the payroll for 3 or 4 years, doing very little.
But of course, if he comes I will support him 100% and he's not without his plus points.
Blackburn set to sign Formica.Rather them than us.
Wigan have bid for keiran westwood £1.5m- looks a good deal at that price, I'd use the davies cash for him personally.For certain, even if we initially didn't use him as first choice, assuming Brad Snr wants to carry on next season.
BTW.... Davies for £1.75m? If that's the fee, I feel sick.
We won't get £3.5 m for davies in a cash sale , I think £2.5m would be more accurate and that's the figure I've been seeing in the media for the last couple of weeks.Maybe it'll be £2.5m + add ons.
We won't get £3.5 m for davies in a cash sale , I think £2.5m would be more accurate and that's the figure I've been seeing in the media for the last couple of weeks.Maybe it'll be £2.5m + add ons.
I can't see the Larsson thing happening, The Dog shit are hardly over blessed with players.
I'm sure that when Blues agreed a fee for Larsson, it was 1m. I doubt any deal we do with them will value him at any more.I'm sure I read somewhere that Newcastle agreed £500,000, but it fell through due to his wage demands.
Still can't see it happening Maz. He will getter better money waiting till the summer, and will have a fight on to get in the team. Fair play to the lad if he is up for the fight to do so though, and squad wise I think he would be a good addition. Look at the way Houllier is rotating and has publicly stated he will keep doing so. It means you need good players to make up that squad. Would not be shocked to see him come and play more centrally either, if he does sign.
According to a few folks behind the scenes, its Blose trying to push this, not us. Houllier isnt sure if Larsson would be any good to us and Blose are trying to save money by offering a player they know is off in the summer anyway. Also, Davies would prefer to go to Leicester but we'd prefer a permanent deal for him rather than a loan.
Not sure how accurate all that is but it makes sense to me.
For myself, I'd prefer Larsson to nothing but I'd rather buy a better player in the summer than have Larsson on the payroll for 3 or 4 years, doing very little.
But of course, if he comes I will support him 100% and he's not without his plus points.
You're my favourite, Mazrim.
Equal parts passion and reason, you always end up talking sense in the end (and usually before the end).
I'm not taking the piss, by the way. But if you don't finger me then I'll edit my post and tell Everall you're a crap cuddle.
He's on the right.Still can't see it happening Maz. He will getter better money waiting till the summer, and will have a fight on to get in the team. Fair play to the lad if he is up for the fight to do so though, and squad wise I think he would be a good addition. Look at the way Houllier is rotating and has publicly stated he will keep doing so. It means you need good players to make up that squad. Would not be shocked to see him come and play more centrally either, if he does sign.
According to a few folks behind the scenes, its Blose trying to push this, not us. Houllier isnt sure if Larsson would be any good to us and Blose are trying to save money by offering a player they know is off in the summer anyway. Also, Davies would prefer to go to Leicester but we'd prefer a permanent deal for him rather than a loan.
Not sure how accurate all that is but it makes sense to me.
For myself, I'd prefer Larsson to nothing but I'd rather buy a better player in the summer than have Larsson on the payroll for 3 or 4 years, doing very little.
But of course, if he comes I will support him 100% and he's not without his plus points.
You're my favourite, Mazrim.
Equal parts passion and reason, you always end up talking sense in the end (and usually before the end).
I'm not taking the piss, by the way. But if you don't finger me then I'll edit my post and tell Everall you're a crap cuddle.
Please tell me you're a buxom lass of questionable virtue.
Davies got injured was out for months and by the time he was fit had three more reliable centre halves in front of him. Houllier had every chance to pick him if he wanted but came to the same conclusion as his predecessor.I think Houllier doesn't want him as he realises Clark is a better choice as centre back number 4.
chelski have come in for torres and he wants to go (ssn) no worries no concern to the villa......i really hope this does not happen for the simple reason is that liverpool will come sniffing for young. i can see it happenin gAre you okay?
O'Neill had his 11 favourites and everybody else was persona non grata.
I reckon Houllier might turn out to be the polar opposite and. quite rightly, rotate the squad.O'Neill had his 11 favourites and everybody else was persona non grata.
I think that's partly true. If a player/players were in and doing well, with the side winning, they kept the shirt. That's why Cuellar stayed at RB and Davies couldn't get past Collins and Dunne. Very old school, but it does have it's merits as evidenced by the results under him.
As it goes I prefer a bit of rotation as it keeps the squad players involved and happy, plus match sharp for when they are needed. Just as long as the manager knows his best team and isn't afreaid to play it more often than not!
We are paying Davies too much for a 4th choice centre back and he's less reliable than the those in front of him. I'm sure he was one of the ones that the club had in my mind when they talked about trimming the wage bill but we couldn't shift him in the summer.All very well Chris, but hadn't O'Neill shunned him prior to the wages situation?
chelski have come in for torres and he wants to go (ssn) no worries no concern to the villa......i really hope this does not happen for the simple reason is that liverpool will come sniffing for young. i can see it happenin gThey'd need to fork out for a new centre forward first
We are paying Davies too much for a 4th choice centre back and he's less reliable than the those in front of him. I'm sure he was one of the ones that the club had in my mind when they talked about trimming the wage bill but we couldn't shift him in the summer.All very well Chris, but hadn't O'Neill shunned him prior to the wages situation?
I reckon Houllier might turn out to be the polar opposite and. quite rightly, rotate the squad.
We are paying Davies too much for a 4th choice centre back and he's less reliable than the those in front of him. I'm sure he was one of the ones that the club had in my mind when they talked about trimming the wage bill but we couldn't shift him in the summer.All very well Chris, but hadn't O'Neill shunned him prior to the wages situation?
Yes John, wouldn't want him messing about TOO much, but I think he has a better sense of when players need a rest, Albrighton being a case in point.I reckon Houllier might turn out to be the polar opposite and. quite rightly, rotate the squad.
I hope he's not the polar opposite and becomes a 'tinker man'. I think somewhere in between is what works best.
But he wasn't a regular prior to injury was he?We are paying Davies too much for a 4th choice centre back and he's less reliable than the those in front of him. I'm sure he was one of the ones that the club had in my mind when they talked about trimming the wage bill but we couldn't shift him in the summer.All very well Chris, but hadn't O'Neill shunned him prior to the wages situation?
He was injured, by the time he came back we'd already started looking at the wage bill as we didn't sign anyone in the January and O'Neill confirmed that he had to sell before he could buy.
My God Lplop fans are deluded one on SSN saying why would Torres leave now when KK is turning it around implying they were on a par with Chelsea.They really do believe their own hype.I hope Torres fooks off on Monday leaving them no time to find a replacement
But he wasn't a regular prior to injury was he?We are paying Davies too much for a 4th choice centre back and he's less reliable than the those in front of him. I'm sure he was one of the ones that the club had in my mind when they talked about trimming the wage bill but we couldn't shift him in the summer.All very well Chris, but hadn't O'Neill shunned him prior to the wages situation?
He was injured, by the time he came back we'd already started looking at the wage bill as we didn't sign anyone in the January and O'Neill confirmed that he had to sell before he could buy.
But he wasn't a regular prior to injury was he?We are paying Davies too much for a 4th choice centre back and he's less reliable than the those in front of him. I'm sure he was one of the ones that the club had in my mind when they talked about trimming the wage bill but we couldn't shift him in the summer.All very well Chris, but hadn't O'Neill shunned him prior to the wages situation?
He was injured, by the time he came back we'd already started looking at the wage bill as we didn't sign anyone in the January and O'Neill confirmed that he had to sell before he could buy.
Come on fletch , you know he's not going to agree to any criticism of mon!
How old is Martins now - really not in football years? Must be about 35 now.
I thought he claimed to be 26 when he signed for Newcastle????How old is Martins now - really not in football years? Must be about 35 now.
Sky sports says 26 but that can't be right!
I thought he claimed to be 26 when he signed for Newcastle????How old is Martins now - really not in football years? Must be about 35 now.
Sky sports says 26 but that can't be right!
He doesn't look too clever
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Pretty mad we're selling Davies to the knuckle dragggers.
Why on earth are we doing that? Does no-one understand that they're are rivals down in 17th place? Why are gifting them to get out and climb the table? I would like to ask the General this but I know it won't get answered.
Such a shame as I really liked Davies. If you're gonna sell him don't sell him to that rabble!
chelski have come in for torres and he wants to go (ssn) no worries no concern to the villa......i really hope this does not happen for the simple reason is that liverpool will come sniffing for young. i can see it happenin gAre you okay?
Did somebody try to strangle you as you were finishing the sentence?
I'd still like to know why we paid £9.5m for a centre half who ended up as our 4th choice centre back.
Surely for that price, as he was obviously highly rated by O'Neill, he should have been first choice?
How old is Martins now - really not in football years? Must be about 35 now.
Pretty mad we're selling Davies to the knuckle dragggers.
Why on earth are we doing that? Does no-one understand that they're are rivals down in 17th place? Why are gifting them to get out and climb the table? I would like to ask the General this but I know it won't get answered.
Why the f*ck are we doing anything to help those wankers??
Such a shame as I really liked Davies. If you're gonna sell him don't sell him to that rabble!
He's absolutely shit. We're adding to their transfer worries if anything.
[/quotePretty mad we're selling Davies to the knuckle dragggers.
Why on earth are we doing that? Does no-one understand that they're are rivals down in 17th place? Why are gifting them to get out and climb the table? I would like to ask the General this but I know it won't get answered.
Why the f*ck are we doing anything to help those wankers??
Such a shame as I really liked Davies. If you're gonna sell him don't sell him to that rabble!
He's absolutely shit. We're adding to their transfer worries if anything.
No he is'nt that's bullshit!! We're selling them a very good player and I'm pulling out my f#cking hair]
Martins has signed for SHA on loan. Good signing for them, they're desperate for some pace uptop
No he's not shit. People have short memories.Pretty mad we're selling Davies to the knuckle dragggers.
Why on earth are we doing that? Does no-one understand that they're are rivals down in 17th place? Why are gifting them to get out and climb the table? I would like to ask the General this but I know it won't get answered.
Such a shame as I really liked Davies. If you're gonna sell him don't sell him to that rabble!
He's absolutely shit. We're adding to their transfer worries if anything.
Obafemi Martins
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Gobsmacked! Thought he was much older!
All this nonsense about CD is a joke. He played very well for us in a partnership with Laursen even putting off surgery on his shoulder to play. The club havent played him in a league game for a very long time because if they do he triggers a clause in his contract meaning he has to be given another more lucrative deal. We are letting go very good player who just needs a run of games to establish himself again.+1
All this nonsense about CD is a joke. He played very well for us in a partnership with Laursen even putting off surgery on his shoulder to play. The club havent played him in a league game for a very long time because if they do he triggers a clause in his contract meaning he has to be given another more lucrative deal. We are letting go very good player who just needs a run of games to establish himself again.+1
All this nonsense about CD is a joke. He played very well for us in a partnership with Laursen even putting off surgery on his shoulder to play. The club havent played him in a league game for a very long time because if they do he triggers a clause in his contract meaning he has to be given another more lucrative deal. We are letting go very good player who just needs a run of games to establish himself again.We have'nt played him in a league game for a long time because he's a liability that does'nt deserve a lucrative new contract
I'd still like to know why we paid £9.5m for a centre half who ended up as our 4th choice centre back.
Surely for that price, as he was obviously highly rated by O'Neill, he should have been first choice?
Grow up guys
lolque? I didn't say that...All this nonsense about CD is a joke. He played very well for us in a partnership with Laursen even putting off surgery on his shoulder to play. The club havent played him in a league game for a very long time because if they do he triggers a clause in his contract meaning he has to be given another more lucrative deal. We are letting go very good player who just needs a run of games to establish himself again.We have'nt played him in a league game for a long time because he's a liability that does'nt deserve a lucrative new contract
Collins and Dunne have been given second chance after second chance this season. You could say Dunne's a liability after all his fuck ups? Certainly more fucks up than Davies.
A lot older.Obafemi Martins
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Gobsmacked! Thought he was much older!
He is.
The difference is Dunne's actually a good defender where as Davies never was unless he was being babysitted by Laursenlolque? I didn't say that...All this nonsense about CD is a joke. He played very well for us in a partnership with Laursen even putting off surgery on his shoulder to play. The club havent played him in a league game for a very long time because if they do he triggers a clause in his contract meaning he has to be given another more lucrative deal. We are letting go very good player who just needs a run of games to establish himself again.We have'nt played him in a league game for a long time because he's a liability that does'nt deserve a lucrative new contract
Collins and Dunne have been given second chance after second chance this season. You could say Dunne's a liability after all his fuck ups? Certainly more fucks up than Davies.
A lot older.Obafemi Martins
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Gobsmacked! Thought he was much older!
He is.
He was the one who persuaded Adam to eat the apple.
Oh dear. Curtis Davies is being used as a scapegoat on here. Grow up guys.Yeah lads, come on, start living in the real world, will you?
Oh dear. Curtis Davies is being used as a scapegoat on here. Grow up guys.Yeah lads, come on, start living in the real world, will you?
I really love meaningless phrases.
Would be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
*looks at sig*Oh dear. Curtis Davies is being used as a scapegoat on here. Grow up guys.Yeah lads, come on, start living in the real world, will you?
I really love meaningless phrases.
Can you stop making out if I'm saying what you're saying? Thanks
Dunne's only proven that for what, the last... 2 or 3 games? After falling out with the manager too lets not forget.
Some people clearly have forgotton how good Davies was and it just suits them to blame him for why we lost against Rapid Vienna whilst completely ignoring all the Collins and Davies fuck ups and just remembering them for there 'last ditch' blocks.
Would be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
Can you stop making out if I'm saying what you're saying? Thanks
Dunne's only proven that for what, the last... 2 or 3 games? After falling out with the manager too lets not forget.
Some people clearly have forgotton how good Davies was and it just suits them to blame him for why we lost against Rapid Vienna whilst completely ignoring all the Collins and Davies fuck ups and just remembering them for there 'last ditch' blocks.
Can you stop making out if I'm saying what you're saying? Thanks
Dunne's only proven that for what, the last... 2 or 3 games? After falling out with the manager too lets not forget.
Some people clearly have forgotton how good Davies was and it just suits them to blame him for why we lost against Rapid Vienna whilst completely ignoring all the Collins and Davies fuck ups and just remembering them for there 'last ditch' blocks.
Would be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
Can you stop making out if I'm saying what you're saying? Thanksthat Rapid Vienna Incident tells you everything you need to know about Davies, he paniced like fuck in a situation where he could've simply put it out for a throw in or booted it up field, the fact he thought it'd be a good idea to do what he did just shows he has'nt got the cleverness or calmness to succeed at this level, he's a poor defender and i've got no problem with taking that lots money for him, funny how only Blues and Leicester were interested even though the price was so low
Dunne's only proven that for what, the last... 2 or 3 games? After falling out with the manager too lets not forget.
Some people clearly have forgotton how good Davies was and it just suits them to blame him for why we lost against Rapid Vienna whilst completely ignoring all the Collins and Davies fuck ups and just remembering them for there 'last ditch' blocks.
Would be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
Anyone who has been following the Villa for more than 5 minutes would know that last season a Dunne/Collins defence conceded only 39 goals compared to the 54 the one with Davies let in the season before. There was a reason he was replaced; we were a soft touch at the back..
Sorry if I rattled your cage and you got jealous cos' I played football at a high level and you didn't. And I'm going out to late lunches with 8/10's whilst you're clearing up your son's lego and trying to teach someone who probably is half your age (you're in your 40's? lol) an 'E-Lesson'.QuoteWould be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
Here's a little life lesson for you ( it's something I'm constantly telling my 4 year old lad). If someobody disagrees with you, try and deal with it without resorting to childish, silly responses.
Honestly, it dosent reflect well on you.
Reasoned debate is by far the most effective way of making a point.
Quite possibly the most cringe-worthy thing ever wrote on an internet forumSorry if I rattled your cage and you got jealous cos' I played football at a high level and you didn't. And I'm going out to late lunches with 8/10's whilst you're clearing up your son's lego and trying to teach someone who probably is half your age (you're in your 40's? lol) an 'E-Lesson'.QuoteWould be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
Here's a little life lesson for you ( it's something I'm constantly telling my 4 year old lad). If someobody disagrees with you, try and deal with it without resorting to childish, silly responses.
Honestly, it dosent reflect well on you.
Reasoned debate is by far the most effective way of making a point.
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Sorry if I rattled your cage and you got jealous cos' I played football at a high level and you didn't. And I'm going out to late lunches with 8/10's whilst you're clearing up your son's lego and trying to teach someone who probably is half your age (you're in your 40's? lol) an 'E-Lesson'.
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Sorry if I rattled your cage and you got jealous cos' I played football at a high level and you didn't. And I'm going out to late lunches with 8/10's whilst you're clearing up your son's lego and trying to teach someone who probably is half your age (you're in your 40's? lol) an 'E-Lesson'.Either comedy gold or the ramblings of a buffoon. Either way, thanks, you've made my afternoon much brighter.
So Davies kicking the ball out for a corner in a panic is the reason why we lost to Rapid Vienna? This is what I'm saying about some people making him a scapegoat. Is he to blame also for the WHOLE team not being able to defend a corner?Can you stop making out if I'm saying what you're saying? Thanksthat Rapid Vienna Incident tells you everything you need to know about Davies, he paniced like fuck in a situation where he could've simply put it out for a throw in or booted it up field, the fact he thought it'd be a good idea to do what he did just shows he has'nt got the cleverness or calmness to succeed at this level, he's a poor defender and i've got no problem with taking that lots money for him, funny how only Blues and Leicester were interested even though the price was so low
Dunne's only proven that for what, the last... 2 or 3 games? After falling out with the manager too lets not forget.
Some people clearly have forgotton how good Davies was and it just suits them to blame him for why we lost against Rapid Vienna whilst completely ignoring all the Collins and Davies fuck ups and just remembering them for there 'last ditch' blocks.
Would be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
whilst you're clearing up your son's legoTa for reminding me.
People are getting confused. I like Collins and Dunne. They did great last season. This season however they've been a joke (although they're getting better). All I'm saying is that past merits don't make them immune from harsh criticism and not being dropped. The in-form players should always be in the team.I seem to remember some really scathing, and justified, criticism on here (for Dunne in particular) earlier in the season. And wasn't he also dropped at one point?
Sorry if I rattled your cage and you got jealous cos' I played football at a high level and you didn't. And I'm going out to late lunches with 8/10's whilst you're clearing up your son's lego and trying to teach someone who probably is half your age (you're in your 40's? lol) an 'E-Lesson'
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?*sniggering away like Mutley*
Absolutely not, but we'd just gone 1-0 up and he did that at a time when we just needed to be calm, he was the catalyst for our collapse in that gameSo Davies kicking the ball out for a corner in a panic is the reason why we lost to Rapid Vienna? This is what I'm saying about some people making him a scapegoat. Is he to blame also for the WHOLE team not being able to defend a corner?Can you stop making out if I'm saying what you're saying? Thanksthat Rapid Vienna Incident tells you everything you need to know about Davies, he paniced like fuck in a situation where he could've simply put it out for a throw in or booted it up field, the fact he thought it'd be a good idea to do what he did just shows he has'nt got the cleverness or calmness to succeed at this level, he's a poor defender and i've got no problem with taking that lots money for him, funny how only Blues and Leicester were interested even though the price was so low
Dunne's only proven that for what, the last... 2 or 3 games? After falling out with the manager too lets not forget.
Some people clearly have forgotton how good Davies was and it just suits them to blame him for why we lost against Rapid Vienna whilst completely ignoring all the Collins and Davies fuck ups and just remembering them for there 'last ditch' blocks.
Would be interesting to find out how many people on here have played football at a high level. No doubt the people claiming Davies is 'shit' without mentioning why he's shit are the people who didn't even get picked for there primary school's u10's B Team and gave up on playing ever since.
I also see that CAREW has had a go at Ged now he is away.I also noted that with disinterest. Getting Carew out of the club is equally as pleasing for me as getting Makoun in.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?
My only concern about Davies is it's another player out which reduces the squad numbers again - we are now down on the numbers from the start of January - I thought GH intended to increase the squad this month? We saw what happened when we had the injuries earlier this season. Why can't we build the squad numbers up to cope with injuries and suspensions? Why help Blose out - they are still a relegation rival. Can't believe how we rollover in these situations - especially to that shower!
BOTH Dunne and Collins' criticism was justified. Again, I'm not making any scapegoats here even though I witnessed Collins get fairer treatment on here despite being equally shit.People are getting confused. I like Collins and Dunne. They did great last season. This season however they've been a joke (although they're getting better). All I'm saying is that past merits don't make them immune from harsh criticism and not being dropped. The in-form players should always be in the team.I seem to remember some really scathing, and justified, criticism on here (for Dunne in particular) earlier in the season. And wasn't he also dropped at one point?
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?It's either that the men he was seeing were worth a score of 8 out of 10, or he was seeing between 8 to 10 men.
BOTH Dunne and Collins' criticism was justified. Again, I'm not making any scapegoats here even though I witnessed Collins get fairer treatment on here despite being equally shit.People are getting confused. I like Collins and Dunne. They did great last season. This season however they've been a joke (although they're getting better). All I'm saying is that past merits don't make them immune from harsh criticism and not being dropped. The in-form players should always be in the team.I seem to remember some really scathing, and justified, criticism on here (for Dunne in particular) earlier in the season. And wasn't he also dropped at one point?
If I can recall correctly (pls tell me if i'm wrong) Dunne was dropped cos' he had a paddy in training ranting and raving at Houllier. That did him the world of good though as it put him back in his place and he's been performing well since.
You're making a bigger fool of yourself with every post Situation. Don't stop. I'm off to find a comfy seat, and grab a beer and some popcorn.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
You're making a bigger fool of yourself with every post Situation. Don't stop. I'm off to find a comfy seat, and grab a beer and some popcorn.A bit early for some beer in Canadia, eh?
Anyone got any candles handy? I see Torres has told the bindippers he wants out to Chelsea. Good old King Kenny working his magic again. Look forward to hearing what Pinnochio, John Aldridge and Fat Boy And Thick With It Quinn have got to say about that...I'm more surprised that Care in the community Roman has decided to start spending big again.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?
That's what I want to know, too.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.
I knocked one out to a centrefold in Razzle earlier on, she looked a good 9/10 to me.What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.
I believe an 8/10 is a reference made to the attractiveness of women by men who normally dont spend time with them as they can only get 2/10 women. The 8/10ers have late lunches with these saddos for the sake of thier careers but then marry,and have children with the men who end up picking their childrens lego off the floor.
Hmm late lunches or late nights with 8/10 ers tough choice................
Situation you are a twat!
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.You are Andy Gray and I claim my yearly salary of £1.7m.
You're making a bigger fool of yourself with every post Situation. Don't stop. I'm off to find a comfy seat, and grab a beer and some popcorn.A bit early for some beer in Canadia, eh?
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.
I believe an 8/10 is a reference made to the attractiveness of women by men who normally dont spend time with them as they can only get 2/10 women. The 8/10ers have late lunches with these saddos for the sake of thier careers but then marry,and have children with the men who end up picking their childrens lego off the floor.Strong first post is strong. Insults too? Nice.
Hmm late lunches or late nights with 8/10 ers tough choice................
Situation you are a twat!
Thanks Richard.....its downhill from here. Where do i find the football forum?lol @ u just joining up a Villa forum to call be a twat. I bet you've been reading my posts for ages, worked out a plan of attack... then bang!
Thanks Richard.....its downhill from here. Where do i find the football forum?
I believe an 8/10 is a reference made to the attractiveness of women by men who normally dont spend time with them as they can only get 2/10 women. The 8/10ers have late lunches with these saddos for the sake of thier careers but then marry,and have children with the men who end up picking their childrens lego off the floor.Strong first post is strong. Insults too? Nice.
Hmm late lunches or late nights with 8/10 ers tough choice................
Situation you are a twat!
Jaw of the Gods, father of aesthetics... dats me!
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thats the only pussy the situation gets......Take THAT, Situation
Situation, im afraid you dont mean that much to me! I have changed computers this week and cannot remember my old log in so have rejoined afresh. Been on this site for years and a witton season ticket holder for 11 years, but never posted often. It was all ment in jest like your original comment which did make me laugh!Fair enough but it's still pretty sad coming onto a forum and your first post is insulting me whether I was or wasn't on the wind-up.
Sorry if I rattled your cage and you got jealous cos' I played football at a high level and you didn't. And I'm going out to late lunches with 8/10's whilst you're clearing up your son's lego and trying to teach someone who probably is half your age (you're in your 40's? lol) an 'E-Lesson'.
I was trying to explain to someone how it's a bit silly claiming Davies is 'shit' whilst it suits them to forget how poor both Collins and Dunne have been this season until the Brum game making fuck up after fuck up.
Why are Dunne and Collins excused and given 2nd chance after 2nd chance whereas Davies is made a scapegoat for making one mistake? Why isn't Cuellar playing at CB when he's better than both Dunne and Collins?
Anyone wants to have a bet with me? If Blose go down I'll donate £10 to this site, if they stay up (whoever wants to take the bet) donates £10 to this site? Anyone in? So many are quite confident they'll go down.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.
So if I get you right, you're saying that Davies will single-handedly keep Blues up? Really? He may or he may not help with performances, but that's going a bit far.Never said he'll keep them up single-handedly. Although people will be going into destruction-mode if he puts in great performances for them and they're well clear of 17th spot coming the final game of the season.
So if I get you right, you're saying that Davies will single-handedly keep Blues up? Really? He may or he may not help with performances, but that's going a bit far.He's a good player.
Fair enough but it's still pretty sad coming onto a forum and your first post is insulting me whether I was or wasn't on the wind-up.It was just a bit of banter. Honestly, some people have had a sense of humour failure around here.....
So if I get you right, you're saying that Davies will single-handedly keep Blues up? Really? He may or he may not help with performances, but that's going a bit far.Never said he'll keep them up single-handedly. Although people will be going into destruction-mode if he puts in great performances for them and they're well clear of 17th spot coming the final game of the season.
So are you in or out for the bet? Come on guys! Either way this site will still get a donation!
I've played football up the Lickeys, that's a pretty high level.
Davies is Ok, but IMO he's no better than Dann & Johnson. He'll soon be back on the bench.And, in all seriousness, this is the issue I have with Davies (or maybe more accurately MON?). He's ok. Average. Prone to the semi-regular howler. He was not, isn't nor never will be worth the sums paid by Villa for him. And it certainly didn't help that he was giving it the big one as soon as O'Neill fucked off, instead of trying to knuckle down and earn a spot through good performances. 3 different managers didn't rate him here, so I think that speaks volumes.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?
Houllier on SSN saying Larsson deal still on, but is far from complete.Still struggling to see the point of the Larsson thing. Can't work out where he'll play or who he'll replace.
He doesn't want to talk about John Carew.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?
I took it to mean 8 and 10 year olds.
Whether that's actual age or mental age, I'm not sure.
Such a shame as I really liked Davies.
Such a shame as I really liked Davies.
Did you smash it?
Houllier on SSN saying Larsson deal still on, but is far from complete.Still struggling to see the point of the Larsson thing. Can't work out where he'll play or who he'll replace.
He doesn't want to talk about John Carew.
And as for JC, he's right. Yesterday's news.
Few up of us buying squad players. MON made an art of it. You want to buy players who are 1st team quality and who compete for their places. Dont want a bench of space saver tyres.Houllier on SSN saying Larsson deal still on, but is far from complete.Still struggling to see the point of the Larsson thing. Can't work out where he'll play or who he'll replace.
He doesn't want to talk about John Carew.
And as for JC, he's right. Yesterday's news.
I don't think Larsson has to replace anyone Ger. He's not a bad player, and will just add to our squad. Our kids are brilliant but having a few more seasoned PL pros around isn't such a bad thing. Larsson is a better player than most give him credit for and I think will be better by stepping up into our squad. Look how poor Hleb has looked since he's been there, yet he was brilliant at Arsenal. Larsson's no Hleb, but he'd benefit from being with us. That's just my take on it.
Few up of us buying squad players. MON made an art of it. You want to buy players who are 1st team quality and who compete for their places. Dont want a bench of space saver tyres.Houllier on SSN saying Larsson deal still on, but is far from complete.Still struggling to see the point of the Larsson thing. Can't work out where he'll play or who he'll replace.
He doesn't want to talk about John Carew.
And as for JC, he's right. Yesterday's news.
I don't think Larsson has to replace anyone Ger. He's not a bad player, and will just add to our squad. Our kids are brilliant but having a few more seasoned PL pros around isn't such a bad thing. Larsson is a better player than most give him credit for and I think will be better by stepping up into our squad. Look how poor Hleb has looked since he's been there, yet he was brilliant at Arsenal. Larsson's no Hleb, but he'd benefit from being with us. That's just my take on it.
Sorry I meant in the past. The new three are 1st team starting quality. That's how it should always be.Few up of us buying squad players. MON made an art of it. You want to buy players who are 1st team quality and who compete for their places. Dont want a bench of space saver tyres.Houllier on SSN saying Larsson deal still on, but is far from complete.Still struggling to see the point of the Larsson thing. Can't work out where he'll play or who he'll replace.
He doesn't want to talk about John Carew.
And as for JC, he's right. Yesterday's news.
I don't think Larsson has to replace anyone Ger. He's not a bad player, and will just add to our squad. Our kids are brilliant but having a few more seasoned PL pros around isn't such a bad thing. Larsson is a better player than most give him credit for and I think will be better by stepping up into our squad. Look how poor Hleb has looked since he's been there, yet he was brilliant at Arsenal. Larsson's no Hleb, but he'd benefit from being with us. That's just my take on it.
Fed up of us buying squad players?
We've acquired three players this window, one of whom smashed our transfer record, one of whom is a nailed on starter and one of whom, whilst being on loan, will certainly be starting.
The first team is all but sorted.I say we are still shy of another 1st team quality midfielder + the LB you mention. But apart from that I wouldn't spend any more this window. We have enough bodies to step into the breach until then.
I'd rather wait 'till the summer and get the left-back we WANT not being in any rush or panic and NOT pay over-the-top. I think it's equally crucial we sign Kyle Walker too.
Liverpool should take that, if they can push through a deal for Suarez in the next few days.
Sorry I meant in the past. The new three are 1st team starting quality. That's how it should always be.Realistically though, no, it shouldn't. There are numerous reasons why squad players might be needed. I'm not sure about Larrson though, although that might be because the only time i've seen him play is against us, and from memory he's never stood out
Liverpool should take that, if they can push through a deal for Suarez in the next few days.
not that I care at all, but if the blonde girl leaves the bindippers they will not have anyone to score their goals for them. thats why the fans are all panicking .
Such a shame as I really liked Davies.
Did you smash it?
Maybe the situation IS curtis Davies.
He did after all say he used to play football at a high level.
Maybe the situation IS curtis Davies.
He did after all say he used to play football at a high level.
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.
I wonder what sort of price spurs will put on walker, now capello has tipped him and praised him
and is expected to pick up for englands next game I expect the asking price will be doubled knowing spurs- anything from 6 to 10 million?
Liverpool agree deal to sign Luis Saurez from Ajax in £22.8m deal
Reports on sun website that torres has told Liverpool he wants to go to Chelsea and is poised to put in a written transfer request.I can see him going but not until the Summer
The Scousers must be selling someone because I don't see where that cash has come from otherwise.The owners have got money just like Randy has.......The new owners cleared all the debts
Liverpool agree deal to sign Luis Saurez from Ajax in £22.8m deal
I thought the new owners were not actually all that well off. Well, in the ridiculous scheme of rich owners these days anyway.There no where near Man City level but if they sell Torres for £45m then they can buy 2 strikers for £20m each
Liverpool agree deal to sign Luis Saurez from Ajax in £22.8m deal
Cue disparaging headlines
"Desperate Liverpool splash 23m on striker to avoid relegation"
"Torres and Reina to be sold to finance deal"
"American owner gives money to Dalglish denied to previous manager Hodgson"
or maybe not.
There are plenty of the Liverpool message boards saying Torres out = Saurez, Adam and Young in.
Aston Villa are rumoured to be considering a move for Spurs defender Jonathan Woodgate after Curtis Davies completed his move to Birmingham City.
The first team is all but sorted.
I'd rather wait 'till the summer and get the left-back we WANT not being in any rush or panic and NOT pay over-the-top. I think it's equally crucial we sign Kyle Walker too.
WTF is with the odds on skybet that ashley youngs off to Liverpool! 1/5!!!
WTF is with the odds on skybet that ashley youngs off to Liverpool! 1/5!!!
Those were the odds for Keane to Villa the other week
look what happened there!
Liverpool agree deal to sign Luis Saurez from Ajax in £22.8m deal
Cue disparaging headlines
"Desperate Liverpool splash 23m on striker to avoid relegation"
"Torres and Reina to be sold to finance deal"
"American owner gives money to Dalglish denied to previous manager Hodgson"
or maybe not.
Situation, im afraid you dont mean that much to me! I have changed computers this week and cannot remember my old log in so have rejoined afresh. Been on this site for years and a witton season ticket holder for 11 years, but never posted often. It was all ment in jest like your original comment which did make me laugh!Fair enough but it's still pretty sad coming onto a forum and your first post is insulting me whether I was or wasn't on the wind-up.
See! I made this new chap laugh, I bet everyone else was banging on their keyboards taking my posts dead serious. The Internets is serious buisness you know ;)
Trezeguet, huh? If Heskey was on his way maybe. Otherwise I can't see how he'd fit in. Done well in Spain this season though.
Ash is our best player, we need to do everything possible to keep him. But N'Zogbia is quality, he just lacks Ash's desire
What are 8/10s? Is it some sort of alcopop?A girl who is 8/10 in looks and body. i.e. Susan Boyle would be a 2/10 and Megan Fox is a 10/10.
I only date 8/10's and 9/10's though (no 7/10's or below. yuck) because I don't want to be seen with a girl who is better looking than me.
Kendrick has just tweeted
@MatKendrickJust found out #avfc might do bit of business in and out before deadline. Chance to sign mystery target has emerged. Don't know who
A british 8 is like a rest of the world 6 though.
a bit too late for this window but maybe we could get a league table for rumours, maybe along the lines of number of rumours and actual transfers
Played/ Acknowleged Ignored/denied Accepted Rejected Correct Total Success
printed by club by club by club by club Bull Rate
Mirror 750 2 748 1 1 2 748 0.26%
| Newspaper Right Total Num Accuracy The Guardian 176 525 33.5% Daily Record 170 521 32.6% The Scotsman 8 28 28.6% The Independent 152 555 27.4% The Times 274 1007 27.2% The Herald 19 74 25.7% Daily Telegraph 110 485 22.7% The Express 276 1234 22.4% The Sun 638 3014 21.2% Daily Star 404 1967 20.5% Daily Mirror 1023 5312 19.3% Daily Mail 578 3009 19.2% News Of The World 221 1622 13.6% The People 100 772 13% |
It's a little more complicated than you're all making out. You should really include a decimal place. We need to go into the tenths column.
For example, 8.7.
8 = how good looking they are (out of 10).
0.7 = how good you think they'll be in bed (out of 1).
You can't give them 10 unless you have actually booned them.
For me, Megan Fox would be 9.9, as she's pretty damn good looking and i reckon she'd ruin me in bed. Obviously I haven't thrown a fuck into her yet so can't give her a 10.
Of course you could go the other way and simplify it. One of my mates has the very simple rating scale of:
"yeah, motherfucker!" if he would.
"nah, motherfucker!" if he wouldn't.
Am I slightly off topic here?
You can't give them 10 unless you have actually booned them.
I think maybe Beye could leave? He is nowhere near the first team. Have no idea who the mystery in could be.
You can't give them 10 unless you have actually booned them.Is this booned as in gave them a blessing or booned as in delivered something by motorcycle courier?
Thanks Matt for getting back to transfer related things. Anyone got a clue who this mystery player is or are we just hoping that something will happen further due to being eternal optimists?
I think maybe Beye could leave? He is nowhere near the first team. Have no idea who the mystery in could be.
GH saying that Ireland will be staying till the end of the season, lets hope he can find some form now.
I noticed Ireland isnt going anywhere
It looks like Michael Bradley from Borussia MGThat would be grand.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/547939/artikel_Aston-Villa-liegt-im-Bradley-Poker-vorn.html
I noticed Ireland isnt going anywhereThere is a very good footballer there so I'm glad.
Let's hope GH can remake / remodel here.
Ireland is just lazy.I noticed Ireland isnt going anywhereThere is a very good footballer there so I'm glad.
Let's hope GH can remake / remodel here.
Gerard, what happened with Ireland?
"I tried but I could not find a way, looking back all I did was look away".
The news about Torres gave me a chuckle,for a couple of hours last night they must've been so pleased with themselves after signing Suariz. Listening to Fat Mick Quinn this morning is hilarious,deluded prick.
It looks like Michael Bradley from Borussia MGThat would be grand.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/547939/artikel_Aston-Villa-liegt-im-Bradley-Poker-vorn.html
I hope someone panics sufficiently to buy Beye. That's a serious panic though.
It looks like Michael Bradley from Borussia MGThat would be grand.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/547939/artikel_Aston-Villa-liegt-im-Bradley-Poker-vorn.html
I've no idea what that says, but if it's that Bradley is joining Vila, the I'll be pretty happy - a very good player whenever I've seen him. Which is about four or five times, to be honest, so not many. But still, looks a top player to me.
It looks like Michael Bradley from Borussia MGThat would be grand.
http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/bundesliga/startseite/547939/artikel_Aston-Villa-liegt-im-Bradley-Poker-vorn.html
I've no idea what that says, but if it's that Bradley is joining Vila, the I'll be pretty happy - a very good player whenever I've seen him. Which is about four or five times, to be honest, so not many. But still, looks a top player to me.
Am I the only one that thinks Muntari is a complete liability then? Always looks ready to be sent off to me, and rarely played well apart from for Portsmouth at VP a couple of times.
There is another Ghanain midfielder I would much prefer but cannot recall the name of - really impressed in the world cup.
Michael Bradley would be a good signing though - works really hard, gets forward well and knows where the net is. American players invariably do well in the premiership.
Am I the only one that thinks Muntari is a complete liability then? Always looks ready to be sent off to me, and rarely played well apart from for Portsmouth at VP a couple of times.
There is another Ghanain midfielder I would much prefer but cannot recall the name of - really impressed in the world cup.
Michael Bradley would be a good signing though - works really hard, gets forward well and knows where the net is. American players invariably do well in the premiership.
If he does well then we probably wont offer NRC a new contract,and Ireland will probably be off in the summer.
If he does well then we probably wont offer NRC a new contract,and Ireland will probably be off in the summer.
As much as I like NRC, Bradley's a big step up.
If he does well then we probably wont offer NRC a new contract,and Ireland will probably be off in the summer.
As much as I like NRC, Bradley's a big step up.
If he does well then we probably wont offer NRC a new contract,and Ireland will probably be off in the summer.
As much as I like NRC, Bradley's a big step up.
Yeah,i was impressed with him in the WC,think he'll be suited to our league.
Still no official confirmation?
Im liking Houlliers Transfer dealings. In and out.
Aston Villa is located in Bradley poker front
The latest turn in the wrong Poker by Michael Bradley (23). The midfielder of Borussia Moenchengladbach faces a move to Aston Villa! The Premier League club wants to borrow the American, who stands at Borussia 2012 under contract until season's end and also to secure a purchase option.
In recent days, the tide turned in the case of Bradley several times. Until the mid-week had the best maps of Sunderland AFC in the poker game for the U.S. national team. Then became apparent a change in Turkey - but not to Galatasaray Istanbul, which showed interest, but to Fenerbahce, which also gave immediately an offer for Bradley.
At the last minute then Aston Villa came onto the scene and Bradley has now apparently convinced to switch to the Premier League table Thirteenth. Even though the transfer is not official.
With the commitment of Michael Fink (28) was the gap-year-old leaves the 23 already closed. The midfielder is on loan from Besiktas Istanbul . Fink, formerly with Eintracht Frankfurt and Arminia Bielefeld in contract costs, the Bundesliga bottom EUR 700,000 rental fee. At the Club of coach Bernd Schuster, he still had a contract running until 2012, was recently considered but no more.
Aston Villa is located in Bradley poker front
The latest turn in the wrong Poker by Michael Bradley (23). The midfielder of Borussia Moenchengladbach faces a move to Aston Villa! The Premier League club wants to borrow the American, who stands at Borussia 2012 under contract until season's end and also to secure a purchase option.
In recent days, the tide turned in the case of Bradley several times. Until the mid-week had the best maps of Sunderland AFC in the poker game for the U.S. national team. Then became apparent a change in Turkey - but not to Galatasaray Istanbul, which showed interest, but to Fenerbahce, which also gave immediately an offer for Bradley.
At the last minute then Aston Villa came onto the scene and Bradley has now apparently convinced to switch to the Premier League table Thirteenth. Even though the transfer is not official.
With the commitment of Michael Fink (28) was the gap-year-old leaves the 23 already closed. The midfielder is on loan from Besiktas Istanbul . Fink, formerly with Eintracht Frankfurt and Arminia Bielefeld in contract costs, the Bundesliga bottom EUR 700,000 rental fee. At the Club of coach Bernd Schuster, he still had a contract running until 2012, was recently considered but no more.
Well thats that cleared up.
Why are his club happy for him to leave? Is he not pulling up any trees in Germany?
The talk on the net seems to be that is is loan with a view to a 5million euro deal. He has impressed me for the USA when I have seen them, but I agree manic, I think loan with a view to sign is idea, gives us 5 months to see if he is up to it. Decent scoring record in Germany and 1 in 3 when in Holland, so could give us a few goals from the middle of the park.
We already have a baldy centre-mid who likes to get forward and will be here in Feb.
Is that Bob Bradley's son?
Not only had he addressed the midfield but has sorted out the right back and striker positions which we have been in need of doing for the past 3 or 4 yrs - great month of business!Right back not sorted for me.......young Walker great going forward but poor defensively
Agreed he looks really good going forward but his defensive play needs some work from todays display.Not only had he addressed the midfield but has sorted out the right back and striker positions which we have been in need of doing for the past 3 or 4 yrs - great month of business!Right back not sorted for me.......young Walker great going forward but poor defensively
The Bundasliga is quite similar to English football with regards to pace and so on, so he should be able to get up to speed sharpish.
Bradley is very good. Younger than I thought too.
As Supertom said a midfield with two from Makoun, Bradley, Petrov and Delph flanking Bannan or Downing would be quite something. We don't need no overrated Charlie Adam with that available.
I might even be tempted to say Hey Houllier leave that midfield alone in the summer if Bradley is available permanently.
Bradley is very good. Younger than I thought too.
As Supertom said a midfield with two from Makoun, Bradley, Petrov and Delph flanking Bannan or Downing would be quite something. We don't need no overrated Charlie Adam with that available.
I might even be tempted to say Hey Houllier leave that midfield alone in the summer if Bradley is available permanently.
Sounds like we have pulled off another coup. Isn't that a bit Pink Floyd...ish?
Bradley? What have I missed?Sky reported earlier today that we were close to signing Michael Bradley (Bob's son) on loan until the end of the season from a German club - nothing on the BBC though
Are we to assume that both NRC and Stan will be leaving this summer?
Bradley's sick.
Watched him many times. He can pick a pass and he loves a tackle or two. Really good loan signing.
Highly underrated.
I think in a years time Gary Gardner will very much be a big player in our team and if Bradley comes in and succeeds I wouldn't bother with Adam.Same.
In the summer keeper and left back will be priorities , and we need to see whether Bradley, ash and walker are here next season or not- if not they will need replacing but I'd like to see all 3 still here.
Plenty of rumours going round Liverpool that Ash is signing for them in the January window.
Bradley's sick.
Plenty of rumours going round Liverpool that Ash is signing for them in the January window.
Bradley's sick.
Maybe signing him is a bad idea after all then?
Not only had he addressed the midfield but has sorted out the right back and striker positions which we have been in need of doing for the past 3 or 4 yrs - great month of business!Right back not sorted for me.......young Walker great going forward but poor defensively
Why would ash want to go? They aint much higher than us, they are a pretty average side without Gerrard & Torres & he wants to leave!! We signed Bent which shows ambition, This Bradley might be coming, he's a good player. I think we can be better than Liverpool...Like all players these days..........money they will offer him £90,000/£100,000 pw which we wont
Sorry, I still don't think Hogg will make it!
Interesting conundrum. Should someone come in on Monday for Young, what is the minimum you would sell for. I think it is clear he is likely to leave this summer anyway, and could be argued that he needs a move to stop stagnating. I would take anything above 20 million this window I think. From Liverpool I would take 19.75 and Babbel though, as you could still sell Babbel for 6 million in the summer and he would give a forward in return that has got potential.
I think in a years time Gary Gardner will very much be a big player in our team and if Bradley comes in and succeeds I wouldn't bother with Adam.Same.
In the summer keeper and left back will be priorities , and we need to see whether Bradley, ash and walker are here next season or not- if not they will need replacing but I'd like to see all 3 still here.
We've got so many quality options in our midfield and attack... Houllier will have a pleasant decision to make on team selections whereas with O'Neill we didn't really have any man-for-man quality back-ups - now we've got quality in depth. Makoun, Delph, Coker, Bradley, Petrov, Bannan... so many great options to choose from now; likewise up front.
Is your glass half empty tonight? ;)I think in a years time Gary Gardner will very much be a big player in our team and if Bradley comes in and succeeds I wouldn't bother with Adam.Same.
In the summer keeper and left back will be priorities , and we need to see whether Bradley, ash and walker are here next season or not- if not they will need replacing but I'd like to see all 3 still here.
We've got so many quality options in our midfield and attack... Houllier will have a pleasant decision to make on team selections whereas with O'Neill we didn't really have any man-for-man quality back-ups - now we've got quality in depth. Makoun, Delph, Coker, Bradley, Petrov, Bannan... so many great options to choose from now; likewise up front.
Makoun... untried. Delph... will he ever be the player we hoped he would be..? Coker... nuff said. Bradley... unconfirned/untried. Petrov... crocked... Bannan... jury out. Just a thought.
Don't be too negative lol.I think in a years time Gary Gardner will very much be a big player in our team and if Bradley comes in and succeeds I wouldn't bother with Adam.Same.
In the summer keeper and left back will be priorities , and we need to see whether Bradley, ash and walker are here next season or not- if not they will need replacing but I'd like to see all 3 still here.
We've got so many quality options in our midfield and attack... Houllier will have a pleasant decision to make on team selections whereas with O'Neill we didn't really have any man-for-man quality back-ups - now we've got quality in depth. Makoun, Delph, Coker, Bradley, Petrov, Bannan... so many great options to choose from now; likewise up front.
Makoun... untried. Delph... will he ever be the player we hoped he would be..? Coker... nuff said. Bradley... unconfirned/untried. Petrov... crocked... Bannan... jury out. Just a thought.
I think in a years time Gary Gardner will very much be a big player in our team and if Bradley comes in and succeeds I wouldn't bother with Adam.Same.
In the summer keeper and left back will be priorities , and we need to see whether Bradley, ash and walker are here next season or not- if not they will need replacing but I'd like to see all 3 still here.
We've got so many quality options in our midfield and attack... Houllier will have a pleasant decision to make on team selections whereas with O'Neill we didn't really have any man-for-man quality back-ups - now we've got quality in depth. Makoun, Delph, Coker, Bradley, Petrov, Bannan... so many great options to choose from now; likewise up front.
Makoun... untried. Delph... will he ever be the player we hoped he would be..? Coker... nuff said. Bradley... unconfirned/untried. Petrov... crocked... Bannan... jury out. Just a thought.
The bin dippers still talk as if they are a top four team when the table clearly indicates they are not, i would wager serious money that we finish above them at the end of the season. Maybe if United came in with an offer he could be tempted. The Adam saga signals that for most clubs paying well over the odds is a thing of the past, same with wages, NRC should have a rethink because only mid table sides and lower will be interested in him and they will not be offering big wages. The players Houllier has bought in signals an intent and through this we may see top players wanting to come to us.
NRC would be very lucky to get £40 grand a week seeing as he is so limited in ability(and to say he could get that is a daming indictment of players wages these days)He'll have no problem getting that at all in the current climate.
Hope this Bradley thing comes off, from what I've seen he looks the dog's nads! Amazing how quickly things turn around isn't it? A month ago it was all gloom, doom and certain relegation, now we're all looking forward again. So much nicer when every one's happy :)
hmmm. i don't think the chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning' during the Sunderland game were anything to be proud of. Very embarrassing, if anything.
hmmm. i don't think the chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning' during the Sunderland game were anything to be proud of. Very embarrassing, if anything.
GH had, at thet point, taken one of the highest paid squads in Europe into the relegation places, I'd be more worried if people thought that was acceptable.
The Sunderland game was the one time I had some serious doubts. More for his failure to react after the sending off and seemingly allowing them to steal the three points it looked like he didn't know what to do. I wasn't calling for him to be sacked but was starting to wonder whether this my be a wasted season.
Since then almost everything has been positive and now I am pretty optimistic about the direction that the club is going in.
hmmm. i don't think the chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning' during the Sunderland game were anything to be proud of. Very embarrassing, if anything.
GH had, at thet point, taken one of the highest paid squads in Europe into the relegation places, I'd be more worried if people thought that was acceptable.
Singing that was absolutely disgraceful.
Were you at the game ????hmmm. i don't think the chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning' during the Sunderland game were anything to be proud of. Very embarrassing, if anything.
GH had, at thet point, taken one of the highest paid squads in Europe into the relegation places, I'd be more worried if people thought that was acceptable.
Singing that was absolutely disgraceful.
Any road, its all in the past and we are doing very well at the moment.Agreed
hmmm. i don't think the chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning' during the Sunderland game were anything to be proud of. Very embarrassing, if anything.
Matt Kendrick reported that Bradley is due at Bodymoor Heath today for a medical and to finalise loan details.
Matt Kendrick reported that Bradley is due at Bodymoor Heath today for a medical and to finalise loan details.
Matt Kendrick reported that Bradley is due at Bodymoor Heath today for a medical and to finalise loan details.
Cheers. He looked a good player in the World Cup, but has anybody seen him play in Germany? Quite a few seem excited by the prospect of him coming in.
Any opinions out there on why he is being allowed to go? BM are not one of the major teams with twenty internationals in the squad are they?
Can he play the NRC role because I cant see Makcoun doing it?
Watched Bradley intently in the WC...
sky reporting Ireland on tynside having medical today!
The crowd reaction seems to have galvanised him and Randy
I was at Wigan and he impressed me but he seemed too slight to play as a sole DM, Makalele was a much heavier build.
sky reporting Ireland on tynside having medical today!
Trying to find a doctor to give him another sick note?
Read an article about Shankly once where he said "the best time to get rid of a player is when he has 1 good season left in him. That way you get top money for him before the decline starts. The manner whether the manager can judge when that day is defines whether the manager is good at that part of his job."
Maybe GH sees one last season in Petrov and feels it is best to get some decent money in this summer before the legs go completely.
In a pub yesterday ,some stoke fans singing john carew songs, felt wierd to be honest
sky reporting Ireland on tynside having medical today!
Trying to find a doctor to give him another sick note?
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sky reporting Ireland on tynside having medical today!Can they afford his £60,000 wages or will be topping up.Paying someone £20,000 to do nothing is better than paying £60,000 I suppose
They were singing bigger than me and you one , but they were singing john , john , john carew to speak americano tune which was quite annoyingly catchyIn a pub yesterday ,some stoke fans singing john carew songs, felt wierd to be honest
It won't take them long to find out...
Were you at the game ????hmmm. i don't think the chants of 'you're getting sacked in the morning' during the Sunderland game were anything to be proud of. Very embarrassing, if anything.
GH had, at thet point, taken one of the highest paid squads in Europe into the relegation places, I'd be more worried if people thought that was acceptable.
Singing that was absolutely disgraceful.
The last 30 mins was a complete shambles.......the manager did nothing he made no subs, tactical changes and it ended up with Barry and Ashley hoofing/lobbing the ball forwards from the half way line towards James Collins
The crowd reaction seems to have galvanised him and Randy
Read an article about Shankly once where he said "the best time to get rid of a player is when he has 1 good season left in him. That way you get top money for him before the decline starts. The manner whether the manager can judge when that day is defines whether the manager is good at that part of his job."
Maybe GH sees one last season in Petrov and feels it is best to get some decent money in this summer before the legs go completely.
I can not see us getting more than 3 mil for Petrov, so I don't really see the point in selling him.
Assuming we loan Ireland out to go with Carew, Sidwell and Davies, I would estimate that they were on about £230,000 per week.
Bent is on £80k, Makoun I would guess at £30k, Walker and Bradley about £20k each.
Meaning we've improved the squad and cut the wage bill as well, as The General often pointed out, it was the wages that were the issue, not the money for the transfer fee.
Good business so far from Houllier.
how? loaned players won't be playing against their parent club.
Why is there an obsession with players wages and how much we are saving??? I don't give a f*ck....it's what happens on the pitch. I'm sure Randy and the board know what they are doing with the wages. Plus it's all guesswork how much x player is on.I think we all know exactly what the implications are surrounding players wages.
Isiah Osbourne has now gone to sheff wed. on loan
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If GH pulls a good international level LB out of his backside by the end of tomorrow, I would argue this has been the best transfer window in our history.My confidence will be restored when he stops playing Gabby on the left wing
I'd take into consideration the time allowed to do business, quality of players brought in, the net wage spend being reduced, transfer record being destroyed, dud players being sold or loaned out, energy and enthusiasm brought back to the squad, the improving results on the pitch and very importantly, supporter confidence being lifted massively, if not completely restored.
If GH pulls a good international level LB out of his backside by the end of tomorrow, I would argue this has been the best transfer window in our history.My confidence will be restored when he stops playing Gabby on the left wing
I'd take into consideration the time allowed to do business, quality of players brought in, the net wage spend being reduced, transfer record being destroyed, dud players being sold or loaned out, energy and enthusiasm brought back to the squad, the improving results on the pitch and very importantly, supporter confidence being lifted massively, if not completely restored.
Has there ever been a Villa manager who never made a tactical decision that annoyed people?
No certainly not since the Sunderland game it has all been very good and I must admit he has done great work in getting in Bent, Makoun and hopefully Bradley and the results @ home to Citeh, Blackburn and away @ Wigan have been very good all I am saying is that we have 2 very good left sided players in Downing and Ash who can play there naturally and can cross easily with their left feet without having to check back and come inside to deliver a cross, shoot.If GH pulls a good international level LB out of his backside by the end of tomorrow, I would argue this has been the best transfer window in our history.My confidence will be restored when he stops playing Gabby on the left wing
I'd take into consideration the time allowed to do business, quality of players brought in, the net wage spend being reduced, transfer record being destroyed, dud players being sold or loaned out, energy and enthusiasm brought back to the squad, the improving results on the pitch and very importantly, supporter confidence being lifted massively, if not completely restored.
Maybe he's trying to create a system that he prefers. Coupled with the players he's purchased, and the fact that Gabby himself says he's willing to play in any position for the team. Are you honestly saying that is the one thing holding you back in commending GH despite everything else that has transpired this January?
Why is there an obsession with players wages and how much we are saving??? I don't give a f*ck....it's what happens on the pitch. I'm sure Randy and the board know what they are doing with the wages. Plus it's all guesswork how much x player is on.
Why would we need a centre half when we have 4 decent players for that position already?
as much as I've been impressed with Collins and Dunne of late, if we could get Samba or better in place of one of those I'd be all over it. It's not like we're watertight at the back is it?
as much as I've been impressed with Collins and Dunne of late, if we could get Samba or better in place of one of those I'd be all over it. It's not like we're watertight at the back is it?
Blackburn with Samba in defence didn't exactly cover themselves in glory!
as much as I've been impressed with Collins and Dunne of late, if we could get Samba or better in place of one of those I'd be all over it. It's not like we're watertight at the back is it?
as much as I've been impressed with Collins and Dunne of late, if we could get Samba or better in place of one of those I'd be all over it. It's not like we're watertight at the back is it?
as much as I've been impressed with Collins and Dunne of late, if we could get Samba or better in place of one of those I'd be all over it. It's not like we're watertight at the back is it?
Blackburn with Samba in defence didn't exactly cover themselves in glory!
He's only one player. I don't think he was individually responsible for any of the goals was he?
Why is there an obsession with players wages and how much we are saving??? I don't give a f*ck....it's what happens on the pitch. I'm sure Randy and the board know what they are doing with the wages. Plus it's all guesswork how much x player is on.I think we all know exactly what the implications are surrounding players wages.
Infact, no-one should realise more than us Villa fans, given the season we have had and the reasons for it.
Reality HAS to be the watch word.
The days of a regular 11 are gone, houllier will rotate his players and in the main keep them fresh and happy hopefully, same as he did at Liverpool there will be few unchanged teams , but he is not a tinkerman in the ranieri and benitez mould- more a rotator in the sir alex style , it will be nice to get to march and not have a team of knackered players.
I'm a bit nonplussed by Bradley coming in, to be honest. Sure, he's a good player, and a whole level up from the likes of Larsson, but he's a tenacious, driving sort of player - something I'd have thought we're hardly short of.
Why is there an obsession with players wages and how much we are saving??? I don't give a f*ck....it's what happens on the pitch. I'm sure Randy and the board know what they are doing with the wages. Plus it's all guesswork how much x player is on.
because the wage bill was 80-odd % of the turnover. unsustainable. and in the end any shortfall will hit the fans. people don't want to cover it in next year's season ticket nor do they want see a leeds united or pompey-esque fire sale and relegation.
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The days of a regular 11 are gone, houllier will rotate his players and in the main keep them fresh and happy hopefully, same as he did at Liverpool there will be few unchanged teams , but he is not a tinkerman in the ranieri and benitez mould- more a rotator in the sir alex style , it will be nice to get to march and not have a team of knackered players.
We took more points in March and April (P10 W5 D4 L1) than we have during the last 4 months (P18 W4 D6 L8), it was probably our best two month period of the whole of last season.
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Fuck me, Lock your doors he's coming to kill you
I'm a bit nonplussed by Bradley coming in, to be honest. Sure, he's a good player, and a whole level up from the likes of Larsson, but he's a tenacious, driving sort of player - something I'd have thought we're hardly short of.
Disagree Monts.
We have NRC who thinks he's that sort of player, but lacks the quality to really be effective. And Stan, who might have been that type of player once but is now more of a senior pro, always keeping possession and rarely getting caught out of position, but hardly zooming box to box.
Makoun and Bradley will give our midfield legs, probably the closest player we've had to Bradley previously would be Ian Taylor, that is a box-to-box athlete who weighs in with a few goals too.
He's technically competent and brings much needed height and muscle to the middle of the park. Overall happy with this deal if it goes ahead.
I'm a bit nonplussed by Bradley coming in, to be honest. Sure, he's a good player, and a whole level up from the likes of Larsson, but he's a tenacious, driving sort of player - something I'd have thought we're hardly short of.
Disagree Monts.
We have NRC who thinks he's that sort of player, but lacks the quality to really be effective. And Stan, who might have been that type of player once but is now more of a senior pro, always keeping possession and rarely getting caught out of position, but hardly zooming box to box.
Makoun and Bradley will give our midfield legs, probably the closest player we've had to Bradley previously would be Ian Taylor, that is a box-to-box athlete who weighs in with a few goals too.
He's technically competent and brings much needed height and muscle to the middle of the park. Overall happy with this deal if it goes ahead.
Well, you've forgotten Delph and Gardner in there (though the latter's more guesswork, I admit), who are similar players and very promising, but I see your point.
To be honest, I'm more in favour after a bit of consideration and two events. For starters, while I'm Stan's biggest fan, it is clear that his time is coming to an end and he will need replacing, so that's fair enough. The two events: Bannan's performance against Blackburn and GH's praise for him afterwards make it pretty clear to me that he sees him as a genuine short and long term creative option, which I welcome; and Ireland going on loan to Newcastle, and his role now being replaced in the squad by Bradley, who is a genuine all-rounder in midfield.
Look at what GH is trying to build in the centre: Makoun and Bradley are excellent all-round players, who can fill almost every midfield role defensively and going forward. Couple that with a bit of creativity from Bannan, Downing or someone and you have a perfect midfield three.
I'm a bit nonplussed by Bradley coming in, to be honest. Sure, he's a good player, and a whole level up from the likes of Larsson, but he's a tenacious, driving sort of player - something I'd have thought we're hardly short of.
Disagree Monts.
We have NRC who thinks he's that sort of player, but lacks the quality to really be effective. And Stan, who might have been that type of player once but is now more of a senior pro, always keeping possession and rarely getting caught out of position, but hardly zooming box to box.
Makoun and Bradley will give our midfield legs, probably the closest player we've had to Bradley previously would be Ian Taylor, that is a box-to-box athlete who weighs in with a few goals too.
He's technically competent and brings much needed height and muscle to the middle of the park. Overall happy with this deal if it goes ahead.
Well, you've forgotten Delph and Gardner in there (though the latter's more guesswork, I admit), who are similar players and very promising, but I see your point.
To be honest, I'm more in favour after a bit of consideration and two events. For starters, while I'm Stan's biggest fan, it is clear that his time is coming to an end and he will need replacing, so that's fair enough. The two events: Bannan's performance against Blackburn and GH's praise for him afterwards make it pretty clear to me that he sees him as a genuine short and long term creative option, which I welcome; and Ireland going on loan to Newcastle, and his role now being replaced in the squad by Bradley, who is a genuine all-rounder in midfield.
Look at what GH is trying to build in the centre: Makoun and Bradley are excellent all-round players, who can fill almost every midfield role defensively and going forward. Couple that with a bit of creativity from Bannan, Downing or someone and you have a perfect midfield three.
I agree. So you're plussed then?
The days of a regular 11 are gone, houllier will rotate his players and in the main keep them fresh and happy hopefully, same as he did at Liverpool there will be few unchanged teams , but he is not a tinkerman in the ranieri and benitez mould- more a rotator in the sir alex style , it will be nice to get to march and not have a team of knackered players.
We took more points in March and April (P10 W5 D4 L1) than we have during the last 4 months (P18 W4 D6 L8), it was probably our best two month period of the whole of last season.
We get it. You'd rather have a pint with MON than GHou.
His bird's alright.
Bring him in.
I'm a bit nonplussed by Bradley coming in, to be honest. Sure, he's a good player, and a whole level up from the likes of Larsson, but he's a tenacious, driving sort of player - something I'd have thought we're hardly short of.
Disagree Monts.
We have NRC who thinks he's that sort of player, but lacks the quality to really be effective. And Stan, who might have been that type of player once but is now more of a senior pro, always keeping possession and rarely getting caught out of position, but hardly zooming box to box.
Makoun and Bradley will give our midfield legs, probably the closest player we've had to Bradley previously would be Ian Taylor, that is a box-to-box athlete who weighs in with a few goals too.
He's technically competent and brings much needed height and muscle to the middle of the park. Overall happy with this deal if it goes ahead.
Well, you've forgotten Delph and Gardner in there (though the latter's more guesswork, I admit), who are similar players and very promising, but I see your point.
To be honest, I'm more in favour after a bit of consideration and two events. For starters, while I'm Stan's biggest fan, it is clear that his time is coming to an end and he will need replacing, so that's fair enough. The two events: Bannan's performance against Blackburn and GH's praise for him afterwards make it pretty clear to me that he sees him as a genuine short and long term creative option, which I welcome; and Ireland going on loan to Newcastle, and his role now being replaced in the squad by Bradley, who is a genuine all-rounder in midfield.
Look at what GH is trying to build in the centre: Makoun and Bradley are excellent all-round players, who can fill almost every midfield role defensively and going forward. Couple that with a bit of creativity from Bannan, Downing or someone and you have a perfect midfield three.
I agree. So you're plussed then?
that's some turnaround in opinion Monty
I'm a bit nonplussed by Bradley coming in, to be honest. Sure, he's a good player, and a whole level up from the likes of Larsson, but he's a tenacious, driving sort of player - something I'd have thought we're hardly short of.
Disagree Monts.
We have NRC who thinks he's that sort of player, but lacks the quality to really be effective. And Stan, who might have been that type of player once but is now more of a senior pro, always keeping possession and rarely getting caught out of position, but hardly zooming box to box.
Makoun and Bradley will give our midfield legs, probably the closest player we've had to Bradley previously would be Ian Taylor, that is a box-to-box athlete who weighs in with a few goals too.
He's technically competent and brings much needed height and muscle to the middle of the park. Overall happy with this deal if it goes ahead.
Well, you've forgotten Delph and Gardner in there (though the latter's more guesswork, I admit), who are similar players and very promising, but I see your point.
To be honest, I'm more in favour after a bit of consideration and two events. For starters, while I'm Stan's biggest fan, it is clear that his time is coming to an end and he will need replacing, so that's fair enough. The two events: Bannan's performance against Blackburn and GH's praise for him afterwards make it pretty clear to me that he sees him as a genuine short and long term creative option, which I welcome; and Ireland going on loan to Newcastle, and his role now being replaced in the squad by Bradley, who is a genuine all-rounder in midfield.
Look at what GH is trying to build in the centre: Makoun and Bradley are excellent all-round players, who can fill almost every midfield role defensively and going forward. Couple that with a bit of creativity from Bannan, Downing or someone and you have a perfect midfield three.
I agree. So you're plussed then?
that's some turnaround in opinion Monty
Haha, I am indeed more plussed than before, Maz.
To be fair Toronto, my original reaction was one of "where will he fit in", but a bit of sobre judgement and a look at the squad and I think there's only one conclusion to draw really. He's another piece in an ever-more promising looking jigsaw - and a damn sight better than Larsson, too.
Nobody had heard of that Swiss Rambler website a month ago. Now if it suits the argument it's writ in stone.
The biggest thing we have missed about Jimmy is his legs in the centre of midfield - he was running hard from 1-90. Petrov can't do it, NRC visibly tires due to not pacing himself every week. Bradley is the type of player I think we though Sidwell was, all rounder with quality. Lets hope he is a lot better than the ginger one.
Centre back? Has to that Spahic lad surely? Unless he has got Lescott in his sights to play left/ centre.
Thing is Villadawg, the one from 12 months later that was looked at on here many times showed Spurs a good 9 million less than Villa, so you are simply using something that suits yours, albeit out of date.Jesus Ozz, don't start him off.
Sorry Bent Feltcher, I know what he gets like but he is doing exactly what he is accusing others off. Should we have a sweepstake on how many we will sign on deadline day then?
I am going for just the 1, with 2 further departures - Bradley in, Ireland, Warnock out.
Thing is Villadawg, the one from 12 months later that was looked at on here many times showed Spurs a good 9 million less than Villa, so you are simply using something that suits yours, albeit out of date.
Let's leave the thread for any transfer news.
Nobody had heard of that Swiss Rambler website a month ago.I know the site. Fantastic source of up to date information for those going on a walking holiday in the Alps.
The site has faded badly since they lost the (I'll risk it for a) Swisskit sponsership.Nobody had heard of that Swiss Rambler website a month ago.I know the site. Fantastic source of up to date information for those going on a walking holiday in the Alps.
Everything else on there is bollocks.
I'll say Bradley and Westwood in and Ireland and warnock out .Would love Westwood in, although he does look like a young Andy Townsend.
Thing is Villadawg, the one from 12 months later that was looked at on here many times showed Spurs a good 9 million less than Villa, so you are simply using something that suits yours, albeit out of date.Jesus Ozz, don't start him off.
Let's leave the thread for any transfer news.
West Ham sign Tottenham striker Robbie Keane on loan until the end of the season.Inevitable.
I would go and get Al habsi from Bolton - think he looks a hell of a prospect.Great shot stopper, dodgy at everything else
So Bradley essentially done, Ireland almost out and any truth in this Spahic talk?
I wouldn't say it is writ in stone. They just appear to provide independent, understandable and comprehensive explanations on some complex football finance issues.
Perhaps the issue you have is that their findings don't suit your arguments?
I'm always happy to read better or more authoritative sources of factual information if you know of any.
Shut up Fletcher you smell
Hang on, i've just realised....
This rumour has come from The Metro who also reckon that Dunne is going to Arsenal.
File under bollocks.
I'm all for it, it's just that The Metro can come up with some dodgy stuff at times.Hang on, i've just realised....
This rumour has come from The Metro who also reckon that Dunne is going to Arsenal.
File under bollocks.
There is or at least was something in it.
The Spahic rumour I mean.
Yeah I think it is Spahic who Taylor's on about
he was at the man city game after all
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I'll say Bradley and Westwood in and Ireland and warnock out .I'm home tomorrow and will have ssn on all day so as soon as any breaking news I will post it on here , deadline is 11 pm but news of deals will leak well before that .
West Ham have turned down 10 for Parker from Spurs. Newcastle have turned down 23 fro Carroll from Spurs. Have to say the latter I think they are mad, and should have taken the cash. Carroll is good, but think he will be found out more as defenders work out how to play him, ala Duncan Ferguson.
The hair line is totally different isn't it! File under - rubbish at guess who!
Was the spahic link a loan deal? If arsenal were quoted at £25m for him last summer and he's 30 yrs old , what kind of money would he cost I wonder?The Metro say £4m.
On a brighter note Jermaine jenas ahs just come off the bench for Spuds!O'Neill will have his trousers round his ankles Wanking his member till it resembles a Tomato sausage.
I'm all for it, it's just that The Metro can come up with some dodgy stuff at times.Hang on, i've just realised....
This rumour has come from The Metro who also reckon that Dunne is going to Arsenal.
File under bollocks.
There is or at least was something in it.
The Spahic rumour I mean.
If Walker continues to impress and Spurs decide to keep him I wouldn't mind Hutton.
The hair line is totally different isn't it! File under - rubbish at guess who!
The bloke in the posh seats is also a lot fuller in jowls!
On a brighter note Jermaine jenas ahs just come off the bench for Spuds! Cup tied and so no use to us now!! ;)
Don't want him anymore anyway.
Save the money for Lionel.
Shit, is Lionel Ritchie available? Get inIll be dancing on the ceiling if that happens...........
If Walker continues to impress and Spurs decide to keep him I wouldn't mind Hutton.
God, no, Hutton is fucking awful.
I'll be buying a Machine gun if it does.Shit, is Lionel Ritchie available? Get inIll be dancing on the ceiling if that happens...........
I wouldn't say it is writ in stone. They just appear to provide independent, understandable and comprehensive explanations on some complex football finance issues.
Perhaps the issue you have is that their findings don't suit your arguments?
I'm always happy to read better or more authoritative sources of factual information if you know of any.
That's a good one coming from you. Have you found an "independent, understandable and comprehensive" explanation of those Spurs wages yet?
I wouldn't say it is writ in stone. They just appear to provide independent, understandable and comprehensive explanations on some complex football finance issues.
Perhaps the issue you have is that their findings don't suit your arguments?
I'm always happy to read better or more authoritative sources of factual information if you know of any.
That's a good one coming from you. Have you found an "independent, understandable and comprehensive" explanation of those Spurs wages yet?
Yes Dave. That same website shows the 2008/2009 wages we were discussing as £61m for both teams, when compared on a like for like basis
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The Swiss Ramble - Clicky (http://swissramble.blogspot.com/)
Spurs have bid Llorente, he is class, I'd love him.
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As the Arabs say: Khallas!
Really funny on the spurs forum, they are screwing because they haven't signed Suarez.Can you provide a league table to prove that?
Spurs have bid Llorente, he is class, I'd love him.
I think Aston Villa should sign Lionel Messi, Xavi and Iniesta from Barcelona.
I reckon a billion pounds and Warnock and Beye in exchange should do it. What does anybody else think?
Don't think so villadawg- ash will not be leaving tomorrow and it's utter garbage to think he will- won't lose sleep over it .
In the summer maybe , but tomorrow not a cat in hells chance!
So Bradley essentially done, Ireland almost out and any truth in this Spahic talk?
Apparently not playing for his club today. I know he's down as a CB, but in these highlights he looks like a LB to me
Spahic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3CHEaxXf7g)
Taye Taiwo on Marseille bench tonight! Go on Gerrard, finish off the window in style!!
Taye Taiwo on Marseille bench tonight! Go on Gerrard, finish off the window in style!!
According to wikipedia, he's off to Fenerbahce.
So we've still got a chance!
Spurs are getting desperate, oooh i'm looking forward to tomorrow!
Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
I Never get this Bale 'overrated' thing, all the top clubs ie Madrid, Barca, Milan play with wing backs, there isn't many better than Bale who can play that position.
Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
I Never get this Bale 'overrated' thing, all the top clubs ie Madrid, Barca, Milan play with wing backs, there isn't many better than Bale who can play that position.
He's a wank left back but a very good left winger.
I'm very surprised spurs have £40m to bid on a player, seems he has a buy out clause of that amount- yes it's going to be an exciting day tomorrow.
Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
I Never get this Bale 'overrated' thing, all the top clubs ie Madrid, Barca, Milan play with wing backs, there isn't many better than Bale who can play that position.
He's a wank left back but a very good left winger.
What's the joke?Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
How does turning down offers for your best playes and wanting to buy another make you a joke?
Spurs are the biggest joke, ever.
Turn down £40M for Gareth 'overrated' Bale
Bid £30M for Llorente
You couldn't make it up.
I Never get this Bale 'overrated' thing, all the top clubs ie Madrid, Barca, Milan play with wing backs, there isn't many better than Bale who can play that position.
He's a wank left back but a very good left winger.
He is also only 21 meaning lots a time to improve defensively.
INB4? Is that C3PO's cousin?
INB4? Is that C3PO's cousin?"Generally used on internet forums, inb4 refers to a user posting a reply to a message/topic "before" another user posts an obvious response. When used appropriately, inb4 is followed by a word or short phrase that the user knows will eventually appear in the topic conversation."
INB4? Is that C3PO's cousin?"Generally used on internet forums, inb4 refers to a user posting a reply to a message/topic "before" another user posts an obvious response. When used appropriately, inb4 is followed by a word or short phrase that the user knows will eventually appear in the topic conversation."
And also - who has said he's the 5th best player in the world?Read it in a recent Four Four Two magazine.
What's the joke?
The joke is 12 months ago no-one gave a monkeys (pun not intended) about Gareth Bale.
Every man and his dog said he couldn't defend, was inconsistent, questioned him if he was worth the money Spurs paid for him and to top it off had this daunting stat that he hadn't won a Premier League game for Spurs (correct me if i'm wrong...). INB4 ppl tell me he was upgraded to LW.
How do you go from that to be valued more than £40M and considered the 5th best player in the world in the space of 12 months? Mind boggling.
It's insane they've turned down that sort of money for Bale yet they're willing to spunk £30M on Llorente who would be a flop in the Premier League.
He'll be off to Madrid in the summer as he'll be Real's latest fancy boy and it'll be the last we'll ever hear of him until he returns to the Premier League in 2/3 years time after having a bad time in Madrid only to sign for Newcastle.
It's just internet lingo which is used on internet forums... and we happen to be posting on a internet forum lol.INB4? Is that C3PO's cousin?"Generally used on internet forums, inb4 refers to a user posting a reply to a message/topic "before" another user posts an obvious response. When used appropriately, inb4 is followed by a word or short phrase that the user knows will eventually appear in the topic conversation."
It's never used appropriately. No more than kicking the shit out of the English language and raping it can be considered appropriate.
That ain't 8/10 though Bazz.
Laugh all you like... I don't care, the 8/10 with lunch thing was actually true, I just took it up a few notches and people took the bait and got really wound up thinking I was being serious lol. Jokes on them at the end of the day.What's the joke?
The joke is 12 months ago no-one gave a monkeys (pun not intended) about Gareth Bale.
Every man and his dog said he couldn't defend, was inconsistent, questioned him if he was worth the money Spurs paid for him and to top it off had this daunting stat that he hadn't won a Premier League game for Spurs (correct me if i'm wrong...). INB4 ppl tell me he was upgraded to LW.
How do you go from that to be valued more than £40M and considered the 5th best player in the world in the space of 12 months? Mind boggling.
It's insane they've turned down that sort of money for Bale yet they're willing to spunk £30M on Llorente who would be a flop in the Premier League.
He'll be off to Madrid in the summer as he'll be Real's latest fancy boy and it'll be the last we'll ever hear of him until he returns to the Premier League in 2/3 years time after having a bad time in Madrid only to sign for Newcastle.
Gosh. Not only are you a late-lunching sex god, you also know more about football than the managers of Real Madrid and Spurs combined. We are truly honoured to have you in our company.
What's the joke?
The joke is 12 months ago no-one gave a monkeys (pun not intended) about Gareth Bale.
Every man and his dog said he couldn't defend, was inconsistent, questioned him if he was worth the money Spurs paid for him and to top it off had this daunting stat that he hadn't won a Premier League game for Spurs (correct me if i'm wrong...). INB4 ppl tell me he was upgraded to LW.
How do you go from that to be valued more than £40M and considered the 5th best player in the world in the space of 12 months? Mind boggling.
It's insane they've turned down that sort of money for Bale yet they're willing to spunk £30M on Llorente who would be a flop in the Premier League.
He'll be off to Madrid in the summer as he'll be Real's latest fancy boy and it'll be the last we'll ever hear of him until he returns to the Premier League in 2/3 years time after having a bad time in Madrid only to sign for Newcastle.
Gosh. Not only are you a late-lunching sex god, you also know more about football than the managers of Real Madrid and Spurs combined. We are truly honoured to have you in our company.
Laugh all you like... I don't care, the 8/10 with lunch thing was actually true,
So if you say on this site you went out to lunch with an attractive looking woman and you played football in an academy it means you're lying?What's the joke?
The joke is 12 months ago no-one gave a monkeys (pun not intended) about Gareth Bale.
Every man and his dog said he couldn't defend, was inconsistent, questioned him if he was worth the money Spurs paid for him and to top it off had this daunting stat that he hadn't won a Premier League game for Spurs (correct me if i'm wrong...). INB4 ppl tell me he was upgraded to LW.
How do you go from that to be valued more than £40M and considered the 5th best player in the world in the space of 12 months? Mind boggling.
It's insane they've turned down that sort of money for Bale yet they're willing to spunk £30M on Llorente who would be a flop in the Premier League.
He'll be off to Madrid in the summer as he'll be Real's latest fancy boy and it'll be the last we'll ever hear of him until he returns to the Premier League in 2/3 years time after having a bad time in Madrid only to sign for Newcastle.
Gosh. Not only are you a late-lunching sex god, you also know more about football than the managers of Real Madrid and Spurs combined. We are truly honoured to have you in our company.
Well he has played football at a high level!
So if you say on this site you went out to lunch with an attractive looking woman and you played football in an academy it means you're lying?
Damn, I wish I was a boring nobody who isn't trying to be successful in life!
8/10?
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Mods, can we make it a rule that if anyone uses 'lol' on this message board that they be tracked down by bloodhounds, smeared with Princes salmon paste and fed to a killer whale please? From now on. Thanks.LOL ;D
He'll probably bring in Xavi for £5m, with his luck in the transfer window.
So if you say on this site you went out to lunch with an attractive looking woman and you played football in an academy it means you're lying?
Damn, I wish I was a boring nobody who isn't trying to be successful in life!
Chelsea prepare to smash British transfer record to secure £50 million deal for Liverpool striker Fernando Torres
Chelsea are planning to make a £45 million cash offer for Fernando Torres, which would smash the British transfer record and, they hope, secure his move to Stamford Bridge. Add-ons to the deal would push it up to Liverpool’s valuation of £50 million for the 26 year-old, who submitted a transfer request on Friday.
By Jason Burt and Rory Smith 11:00PM GMT 30 Jan 2011
The Premier League champions will make a final decision on Monday morning on whether to deliver the offer or make a revised bid. The final decision will rest with owner Roman Abramovich.
Liverpool were in talks on Sunday with Aston Villa to sign Ashley Young and are understood to have had a £12 million offer rejected for the midfielder. It is believed that they will make a renewed bid on Monday — if they agree to sell Torres — which would match Villa’s valuation of £18 million for a player who has just 18 months left on his contract.
It is understood that Liverpool co-owner John W Henry was in direct talks with Villa counterpart Randy Lerner over the weekend. Henry also held talks with Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli, director of football strategy, as the club started to make contingency plans should Torres go today.
The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8291995/Chelsea-prepare-to-smash-British-transfer-record-to-secure-50-million-deal-for-Liverpool-striker-Fernando-Torres.html)
Chelsea prepare to smash British transfer record to secure £50 million deal for Liverpool striker Fernando Torres
Chelsea are planning to make a £45 million cash offer for Fernando Torres, which would smash the British transfer record and, they hope, secure his move to Stamford Bridge. Add-ons to the deal would push it up to Liverpool’s valuation of £50 million for the 26 year-old, who submitted a transfer request on Friday.
By Jason Burt and Rory Smith 11:00PM GMT 30 Jan 2011
The Premier League champions will make a final decision on Monday morning on whether to deliver the offer or make a revised bid. The final decision will rest with owner Roman Abramovich.
Liverpool were in talks on Sunday with Aston Villa to sign Ashley Young and are understood to have had a £12 million offer rejected for the midfielder. It is believed that they will make a renewed bid on Monday — if they agree to sell Torres — which would match Villa’s valuation of £18 million for a player who has just 18 months left on his contract.
It is understood that Liverpool co-owner John W Henry was in direct talks with Villa counterpart Randy Lerner over the weekend. Henry also held talks with Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli, director of football strategy, as the club started to make contingency plans should Torres go today.
The Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/8291995/Chelsea-prepare-to-smash-British-transfer-record-to-secure-50-million-deal-for-Liverpool-striker-Fernando-Torres.html)
You keep referring to that so much, one could be forgiven for thinking you actually want it to happen.
I thought The Telegraph reporting that they'd made a bid yesterday was worth posting. Why the fuck would I want it to happen?
I thought The Telegraph reporting that they'd made a bid yesterday was worth posting. Why the fuck would I want it to happen?
Because it's the perfect opportunity for you to go on one of your tiresome, predictable "the chairman doesn't want to spend" rants, after the inconvenience of us smashing our transfer record the other week, that's why.
After all, you'd managed to go all of 3 hours since the last time you posted a "Young is moving" story.
If they offered 20 plus million for Young with 18 months on his contract I am sure we would sell. It would be mad not too, especially given the indications that he won't be signing a new one.
RE Gareth Bale. This time last season he had not scored a hatrick against the European Cup holders in the San Siro, while also being one of the most consistent attacking threats to top sides in the champions league and premiership. He is not worth 40 million and I would sell were I Spurs at that, and I think they will as their Chairman is good at selling at the right time, but he has earned the reputation as one of the rising stars of world football.
My wife is a genuine ten whereas I am 5 at best. Fortunately a couple of bob and a large todger fixed that difference!
I bet Situ is hung like Linford Christie, as rich as Donald Trump and as good looking as Brad Pitt!
Please today of all days can we get back to transfer news.Agree.
The Guardian says that Lerner told W Henry that we have no intention of selling Young in this transfer window. Let that be the end of it, please.
Personally, I think Bale's transformation from shit left back to excellent left winger is the thing that made Spurs from also rans into top four contenders. Moreover, any old fool could tell you a left back who attacks well but doesn't defend well might be best sampled on the left wing. That coupled with a shit Liverpool gave them 4th place.
Personally, I think Bale's transformation from shit left back to excellent left winger is the thing that made Spurs from also rans into top four contenders. Moreover, any old fool could tell you a left back who attacks well but doesn't defend well might be best sampled on the left wing. That coupled with a shit Liverpool gave them 4th place.
Now yes. Last season Bale coming through was a huge part of their run to the top 4. Modric was out for a long time with a broken foot.
I think that's a little harsh on the introduction and success of Van Der Vaart and the growth of Modric in the league. I think they're a little more than solely reliant on Bale.
The Guardian says that Lerner told W Henry that we have no intention of selling Young in this transfer window. Let that be the end of it, please.
30 million for Andy Carroll FFS??!! Surely even Tottenham aren't that stupid?
Blackpool bid for andy Reid suggests Adam will go.Was interested to see kendricks Twitter saying no clause for newcastle to buy Ireland as villa want him back in the summer for a fresh start.
Madness, I agree. A player with half a decent season in the prem and one in the Championship. Both very average leagues and now he is worth the sort of money paid for the likes of David Villa....
No chance Ash will go Liverpool today, we need to have a good run now and hope Gerrard can persuade him to sign a contract.
Can't see Samba happening at all. Just don't see the need for him now the big men are in form, unless big Dunney is off to Liverpool for 7 million!
Knowing Mike Ashley's love of money,id be tempted to make a bid for their lb Enrique,and even throw in Warnock as part of the deal.
Konchesky joins forest on loan- opening the way for warnock?
"Update from The Ricoh Arena is that Kieren Westwood has agreed to stay with Coventry City for the rest of the season."Why when he is a free agent in the summer? listed to the blues cov commentary on the way home from the villa, he didnt play very well by all accounts.
According to someone on BBC via Twitter
If he's keen to stay there maybe even offer them £1m for him, and then loan him straight back for the rest of the season.
Youngs odds of going to City down to 6/1....
Youngs odds of going to City down to 6/1....
Just saw that on the SSN ticker. Nothing more than Sky trying to drum up a business for their betting site. He isn't for sale.
Youngs odds of going to City down to 6/1....
Just saw that on the SSN ticker. Nothing more than Sky trying to drum up a business for their betting site. He isn't for sale.
SSN-sources from City saying they are after a winger as cover for Adam Johnson
Spurs rumoured to be signing Robbie Keane back from West Ham.Redknapp also rumoured to be signing Ray 'You Cannnnnts can get 5-1 at Betfair' Winstone.
Spurs rumoured to be signing Robbie Keane back from West Ham.
You Fakkkkkin' disrespected Damon.Spurs rumoured to be signing Robbie Keane back from West Ham.
You made that up, you caaaaaaaant.
I'm hearinG man city may be about to bid for matt jarvis of wolves. Adam Johnson out at least 3 months with ankle ligament injury.
Emile Heskey has been spotted at Newcastle. Though, to be fair, he was probably aiming for Middlesbrough...
Just been sent this, dont know if its a joke or what.
If this stuff about Liverpool bidding 30 million pounds for Andy Carroll is true, then football really is even more mental than we already thought it was.
Matt Kendrick saying that Samba won't be signing.
dippers bid 30m for carroll
david craid sounds gutted again
As would I.
Torres is class but he's no David Villa.
Tony Gale is a prick.
Bolton are signing Daniel Sturridge on loan.
Wonder if they're paying his £65k a week wages.
Creedy bastard.
Tony Gale is a prick.
question is would you swap torres for strike force of suarez and carrol.............think i would
Tony Gale is a prick.
Tony Gale is a prick.
He's well qualified in that case.
he wants Grays job....
What is more foolish? Bidding £30m for Carroll, or turning the offer down?
from auntie :
Intriguing developments at Newcastle. Manager Alan Pardew was due to hold his pre-match press conference ahead of Wednesday's trip to Fulham at the club's training headquarters at 1400 GMT. This has now been put back to 1530 GMT and will take place at St James' Park. Make of that what you will.
Edit - Ferdinand at £30m is the record.The record domestic transfer is the £30.75m Manchester United paid for Dimitar Berbatov.
Houlliers done some cracking business this window, do you think we have spent all were going to this window?Yes.
Edit - Ferdinand at £30m is the record.The record domestic transfer is the £30.75m Manchester United paid for Dimitar Berbatov.
Why does SSN have Will Ashley be on his way in this transfer window as one of their headline stories.What part of we have recieved no bids and he is not for sale do they not understand !!>:(
It's almost like they are touting him to the likes of Liverpool and city on our behalf as if to prove yes we were right all along Villa are a selling club.They're going to be gutted when he's still here at 23.01Why does SSN have Will Ashley be on his way in this transfer window as one of their headline stories.What part of we have recieved no bids and he is not for sale do they not understand !!>:(
You have to remember we are officially a selling club. We disgracefully signed the mercenary Darren Bent from under Steve Bruce's disfigured nose therefore we must sell Young to balance the books. It's the Holt theorem.
Speaking of Bradleys.
Is Guzan due back soon or has he gone for the season ?
hasnt Ashley taken it ? amazed
hasnt Ashley taken it ? amazed
His thinking will be along the lines of: if they have offered 30, they will offer 40
warnock fallen through
liverpool deal for warnock OFFDo you know why ?
liverpool deal for warnock OFFStrange that considering they've let Konchesky go, hopefully somebody else has come in for him on a permanent deal so we've pulled the plug, wishful thinking
liverpool deal for warnock OFFDo you know why ?
danroan Dan Roan
Unlikely one for you - hearing that Man City are about to take Sebastian Larsson on loan from Birmingham until end of the season
thought so ;)liverpool deal for warnock OFFDo you know why ?
Because Real Madrid have come in for him at the last minute. It was only a matter of time before the big guns came knocking.
They've seen him play?liverpool deal for warnock OFFDo you know why ?
Nicko (mirror journo) seems to think wigan want him and poss. swap deal inc. figueroaVILLALWAYS likes this
Nicko (mirror journo) seems to think wigan want him and poss. swap deal inc. figueroa
Turning to England forward Young, reported to be a target for Liverpool, Houllier said: "I can confirm that Ashley is a
Too many words for the Sun to understand or your average bindipper...
Was that Mixu Paatelinen on SSN then?
When did the deadline move from 5pm to 11pm?
Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
Apparently the Suarez move to Liverpool isn't done & dusted. And he thought he was going to be playing alongside Torres.
Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
Last I heard, given isn't going anywhere as he is cover for Joe heart.
Great shot stopper but I'm not sure if he's as good a keeper as pol make out. Imdont think he comands the box and back four as well as a keeper should do.
Apparently the Suarez move to Liverpool isn't done & dusted. And he thought he was going to be playing alongside Torres.
That could end in tears. Quite literally since it's Liverpool.
Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
Can't see him going anywhere as a back up due to his recent experience - if there was anything in it, it would be as a replacement/hand overRumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
Last I heard, given isn't going anywhere as he is cover for Joe heart.
Great shot stopper but I'm not sure if he's as good a keeper as pol make out. Imdont think he comands the box and back four as well as a keeper should do.
Wouldn't mind him as back up for Bradley K. Friedel...
Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
Last I heard, given isn't going anywhere as he is cover for Joe heart.
Great shot stopper but I'm not sure if he's as good a keeper as pol make out. Imdont think he comands the box and back four as well as a keeper should do.
Wouldn't mind him as back up for Bradley K. Friedel...
Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
Last I heard, given isn't going anywhere as he is cover for Joe heart.
Great shot stopper but I'm not sure if he's as good a keeper as pol make out. Imdont think he comands the box and back four as well as a keeper should do.
Wouldn't mind him as back up for Bradley K. Friedel...
Because there isn't a great deal of transfer comment on Radio 4Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
If it's shite why are you listening?
I think the Given rumour is bullshit.Agree with both points, but nice if true!
He'd be a good signing.
no, loan extended for another month wouldnt be a bad thing though with an emergency call back clause.Speaking of Bradleys.
Is Guzan due back soon or has he gone for the season ?
Gone for the season I think.
Because there isn't a great deal of transfer comment on Radio 4Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
If it's shite why are you listening?
Stick with it - I heard 'Arry will be on soon with the Adagio in Morris MinorBecause there isn't a great deal of transfer comment on Radio 4Rumour on Talkshite of Given at Bodymore!
If it's shite why are you listening?
Radio 3 is very frustrating too. Soprano Elizabeth Watts and pianist Roger Vignoles are performing a programme of English music, including songs by Henry Purcell and Benjamin Britten. No mention of Andy Carroll *at all*
"Aston Villa say Ashley Young is not for sale and they haven't received a bid for the winger," says boyishly handsome Ed Chamberlin. I believe Ed, but I don't know if I believe Aston Villa.
Quote from: the guardian"Aston Villa say Ashley Young is not for sale and they haven't received a bid for the winger," says boyishly handsome Ed Chamberlin. I believe Ed, but I don't know if I believe Aston Villa.
why is that, you yoghurt-knitting hippy?
Been in meetings all morning. £30m for Andy Carroll? Fucking Ada.
I hope it's not Matthew Harding's helicopter
No way will Man City will let Given go at least until the summer. Pissing me of SSN keep talking about A Young, when there has not even been a bid put in for him ......I know.It's even less of a story than Beckham training with Spurs.They were desperate for Beckham to play for Spurs and they are desperate for us to sell Ashley to prove how right they were all along that we are a selling club !!
I hope it's not Matthew Harding's helicopter
It's Mike Smith's.
Torres is having a paella prior to having a siesta.
Can see the dippers bidding for Carrol, young and adam this afternoon
that SSN reporter outside of spurzzz lodge is looking very coldgood... the cockhobbit...
that SSN reporter outside of spurzzz lodge is looking very cold
that SSN reporter outside of spurzzz lodge is looking very cold
Been in meetings all morning. £30m for Andy Carroll? Fucking Ada.
I know I'm 5 hours behind, but someone tell me that's a joke? Bloody hell!! Makes Bent look like a set of tracksuits and pairs of boots signing.
Apologies if its in the last 10 or so pages... but has Bradley actually signed on yet?to be completed soon apparently
Been in meetings all morning. £30m for Andy Carroll? Fucking Ada.
I know I'm 5 hours behind, but someone tell me that's a joke? Bloody hell!! Makes Bent look like a set of tracksuits and pairs of boots signing.
Yes and they'll probably say it's a great deal, for a young up and coming striker! Where as ours was an inflated panic buy.
Just wait and see if Ash hands in a transfer request then
is beckham still training at spurzzz
Ozz we denied this morning having recieved the bid , according to the sun the bid was made this afternoon at 12.42, and would be quite logical as torres deal is now on.
We have refused to sell as we said we would do, but it seems a bid has now been made since our denial this morning.
Just wait and see if Ash hands in a transfer request then
Why would he do that?
It's Liverpool, nor Barcelona.
Ozz we denied this morning having recieved the bid , according to the sun the bid was made this afternoon at 12.42, and would be quite logical as torres deal is now on.
We have refused to sell as we said we would do, but it seems a bid has now been made since our denial this morning.
Just wait and see if Ash hands in a transfer request then
Why would he do that?
It's Liverpool, nor Barcelona.
Wages maybe ? Not sure what his motives are by not signing a new deal with us
£20 million and Reina and they can have him..
that would be the sensible thing to do, but we are living in crazy timesJust wait and see if Ash hands in a transfer request then
Why would he do that?
It's Liverpool, nor Barcelona.
Wages maybe ? Not sure what his motives are by not signing a new deal with us
So he has chance to review his options in the summer. If he's going to move, and there's a good chance he will, he won't have to take the first offer that comes along.
£20 million and Reina and they can have him..
To be fair ozz Liverpool have just done the torres deal and now have money to spend, why would they not want Ashley young?
Things are changing by the minute and they have been reportedly interested in ash for a while, we have said he is not for sale but I find it quite likely they have as reported tried to get him.
I am pleased that GED and randy have said he's not for sale!
that would be the sensible thing to do, but we are living in crazy timesJust wait and see if Ash hands in a transfer request then
Why would he do that?
It's Liverpool, nor Barcelona.
Wages maybe ? Not sure what his motives are by not signing a new deal with us
So he has chance to review his options in the summer. If he's going to move, and there's a good chance he will, he won't have to take the first offer that comes along.
Why the fuck does everyone assume Young wants to go to Liverpool?
He's not stupid, he knows that in the summer he'll have plenty of offers if he decides to go. There's nothing in it for him to jum ship to a side who will not be able to offer him CL football next season.
Why the fuck does everyone assume Young wants to go to Liverpool?
He's not stupid, he knows that in the summer he'll have plenty of offers if he decides to go. There's nothing in it for him to jum ship to a side who will not be able to offer him CL football next season.
Torres is still in Lpool, not in helicopter
WTF, do Sky just make it up as they go along
Andy Reid has gone to Blackpool until the summer. Maybe Charlie Adam is on his way out?
Why the fuck does everyone assume Young wants to go to Liverpool?
He's not stupid, he knows that in the summer he'll have plenty of offers if he decides to go. There's nothing in it for him to jum ship to a side who will not be able to offer him CL football next season.
Any idea when the Bradley deal will be sealed?According to reports he's still undergoing a medical - this must be the longest medical in history, we've obviously learnt our lesson following the Ivo Stas saga.
If Carroll is worth £35m then Torres is worth £100m.
If Carroll is worth £35m then Torres is worth £100m.
Anelka reportedly said no to returning to Liverpool ,according to reports earlier.
Of all those poor sods SSN send to stand outside training grounds all day, David Craig is always the one who most looks like he's absolutely winging it, with no idea whatsoever of what is going on
Bit underwhelmed by Bradley tbf, Borussia M'gladbach rock bottom of Bundesliga and going down
Bit underwhelmed by Bradley tbf, Borussia M'gladbach rock bottom of Bundesliga and going down
I cannot imagine Liverpool would make a bid of £35 m if that's what newcastle are asking for- they are pricing him out of the Market.
I wonder what the reaction would have been amongst Liverpool supporters, had Roy Hodgson spent 35 million on Andy Carroll, and what the reaction will be if King Kenny does it?
Bit underwhelmed by Bradley tbf, Borussia M'gladbach rock bottom of Bundesliga and going down
I'm totally the opposite. If you'd said to me in August Villa would be going for Michael Bradley, I'd have said, great, he had a good World Cup. A month ago, I had to check to see who the fuck Charlie Adam was.
Doesn't Bob Bradley have a decent midfield playing son, Mike Bradley?
Why the fuck does everyone assume Young wants to go to Liverpool?
He's not stupid, he knows that in the summer he'll have plenty of offers if he decides to go. There's nothing in it for him to jum ship to a side who will not be able to offer him CL football next season.
unfortunatly mate, this is the nature of the tranafer window,
Liverpool supporters were saying exactly the same about Torres leaving up till a couple of days ago, Newcastle the same about Carrol, Sunderland the same about Bent etc
fans of clubs can always make a good case for a player to stay with them because we are all to emotionaly connected, but players think differently,
i dont know if Ash will go to Liverpool today, but i know if they come in with a big bid it will be squeakie bum time
I wonder what the reaction would have been amongst Liverpool supporters, had Roy Hodgson spent 35 million on Andy Carroll, and what the reaction will be if King Kenny does it?
Are Liverpool really going to spend all the Torres cash on Carroll?
Why the fuck does everyone assume Young wants to go to Liverpool?
He's not stupid, he knows that in the summer he'll have plenty of offers if he decides to go. There's nothing in it for him to jum ship to a side who will not be able to offer him CL football next season.
unfortunatly mate, this is the nature of the tranafer window,
Liverpool supporters were saying exactly the same about Torres leaving up till a couple of days ago, Newcastle the same about Carrol, Sunderland the same about Bent etc
fans of clubs can always make a good case for a player to stay with them because we are all to emotionaly connected, but players think differently,
i dont know if Ash will go to Liverpool today, but i know if they come in with a big bid it will be squeakie bum time
Nope.
If it was Manu or Arsenal I'd agree, but it would be daft move for Ash now when he can sit tight and see what is available in the summer. He's not going to hand in a transfer request to go there.
Having re-read the very first post of this 511 page thread, I wonder what time we'll be bidding for Owen, leaving it a bit late
a lot of posters seem not to rate Carrol very highly,
i think he'l be a great striker, he is dangerous in the air, good touch, good vision and works for the team,
and is very young.
i almost would prefer him to Torres, as he would probably play more games without injury, and not go sulking around
Torres - 48mill Carrol - 35 mill, i'd take Carrol of the two thanks, even at those prices
a lot of posters seem not to rate Carrol very highly,
i think he'l be a great striker, he is dangerous in the air, good touch, good vision and works for the team,
and is very young.
i almost would prefer him to Torres, as he would probably play more games without injury, and not go sulking around
Torres - 48mill Carrol - 35 mill, i'd take Carrol of the two thanks, even at those prices
To be fair thats a great move for andy carroll. Liverpool is the only city in europe where his hairstyle is still fashionable.
Who has said a fee of £35m has been agreed for Carroll? As I understand that is the price Newcastle are asking, who said it has been offered?
If Liverpool did have a bid accepted for Carroll would he pass a medical? He has been injured for weeks hasn't he?
Well respected sources say Andy Carroll has made his way to the North West
only to be recalled when he reaches Huddersfield on M6
Well respected sources say Andy Carroll has made his way to the North West
only to be recalled when he reaches Huddersfield on M6
Well respected....Huddersfield...M6
How many of those are incorrect.
The last two are correct I made them up, the first was that Sky bloke's attempt.
Isn't he still on police bail? I thought part of the deal was that he had to live with Kevin Nolan?? Does that mean Liverpool will have to sign Nolan as well??
as much money as it is, and obviously 35 mill is a lot,
i still bet there is not many Newcastle fans very happy about it, its players that make football teams not money in the bank,
where do they go even with that sort of cash to replace Carrol ?
bearing in mind they will have the same problems as we have in atrracting players, ie no champs league, no recent winning history, not London
as much money as it is, and obviously 35 mill is a lot,
i still bet there is not many Newcastle fans very happy about it, its players that make football teams not money in the bank,
where do they go even with that sort of cash to replace Carrol ?
bearing in mind they will have the same problems as we have in atrracting players, ie no champs league, no recent winning history, not London
I listened to Sunday Supplement on Jan 23rd when that wanker Holt was on. He called Randy buying that proven PL goalscorer Bent (it's fucking £18 million, not £24 million you twats) a panic buy. I'm sure however, all of that lot will pull a Holloway, and say how King kenny buying Carroll for £35 million shrewd business on deadline day.
To be fair thats a great move for andy carroll. Liverpool is the only city in europe where his hairstyle is still fashionable.
To be fair thats a great move for andy carroll. Liverpool is the only city in europe where his hairstyle is still fashionable.
thats made me laugh
if the Carroll deal goes through, he will become the 7th most expensive footballer in the world.Outrageous.
if the Carroll deal goes through, he will become the 7th most expensive footballer in the world.Outrageous.
Has the Torres deal gone through? If so how much,I can't check.
I listened to Sunday Supplement on Jan 23rd when that wanker Holt was on. He called Randy buying that proven PL goalscorer Bent (it's fucking £18 million, not £24 million you twats) a panic buy. I'm sure however, all of that lot will pull a Holloway, and say how King kenny buying Carroll for £35 million shrewd business on deadline day.
Of course they will. It will be seen as a master stroke by Kenny and a sign of the great club's ambition to regain their rightful place at the very top of football.
if the Carroll deal goes through, he will become the 7th most expensive footballer in the world.
if the Carroll deal goes through, he will become the 7th most expensive footballer in the world.
Charlie Adam to Man Utd?
Charlie Adam to Man Utd?
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News breaking that the bookies have Man Utd as favourites to sign Charlie Adam
Anybody got news on Carlton Palmer's movements?
if the Carroll deal goes through, he will become the 7th most expensive footballer in the world.
Is that including the possible transfer of the Scouse Ladyboy as well?
That was 16/1 about an hour ago with Sky bet it's now 1/2
If Carroll goes will Ireland get his No 9 shirt?
£35 million + apparently, rising to £40 million...Always thought he was vastly over rated and for £35m + you'd want a striker who has a complete all round game.
£40 million for a guy on the back of five good months in the top flight.
Mental.
They have just shown that Torres has scored 7 times in 7 games against Chelsea and that he scores against them more then any other team. Seems an expensive way to guarantee a win next week. It's almost like us buying Hadji to stop him scoring against us.
Ireland deal to Newcastle Off according to SSNSo it WAS the medical then?
Charlie Adam to Man Utd?
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News breaking that the bookies have Man Utd as favourites to sign Charlie Adam
That was 16/1 about an hour ago with Sky bet it's now 1/2
Ireland deal to Newcastle Off according to SSN
These fees are mental and goes to show the folly of buying too many domestic players.
Luckily, Houllier has overseas contacts so we won't have to pay through the nose for anybody we want in the Summer.
It'll be Kevin Davies to Sunderland next for £20m.
Anybody got news on Carlton Palmer's movements?yes he had a shit at 2pm
Ireland deal to Newcastle Off according to SSN
Not if he failed his medical.Ireland deal to Newcastle Off according to SSN
Bugger it, but maybe he will come back and pull his socks up a bit now
If they've rejected 35 million, then they're absolutely fucking hatstand.I agree.
If they've rejected 35 million, then they're absolutely fucking hatstand.
If they've rejected 35 million, then they're absolutely fucking hatstand.
Now any shitkicker or idiot just off the turnip truck such as Holloway
So I'm reading on the SSN break in news bar that carrol is off to Liverpool. It's also on there top stories section the a fee has been agreed but David Craig is now on saying the new and improved bid has been rejected.
anyone got a stream for SSN
Looks as if sir alex has Not moved for Adam after all.
anyone got a stream for SSN
anyone got a stream for SSN
do you really want to do that yourself?
David craig looks as though he doesn't know what day it is, coming going staying selling - poor man ha ha!
Juan pablo , are you sure you want to watch ? So many conflicting stories and David craig looks as though he doesn't know what day it is, coming going staying selling - poor man ha ha!
They have just shown that Torres has scored 7 times in 7 games against Chelsea and that he scores against them more then any other team. Seems an expensive way to guarantee a win next week. It's almost like us buying Hadji to stop him scoring against us.
I think it's why we bought Boateng.
according to reports, Torres is in both Liverpool and London simulatneously
according to reports, Torres is in both Liverpool and London simulatneously
according to reports, Torres is in both Liverpool and London simulatneously
So I'm reading on the SSN break in news bar that carrol is off to Liverpool. It's also on there top stories section the a fee has been agreed but David Craig is now on saying the new and improved bid has been rejected.
Is the Sky Sports "break in" news just for transfers to Merseyside clubs?
Juan pablo , are you sure you want to watch ? So many conflicting stories and David craig looks as though he doesn't know what day it is, coming going staying selling - poor man ha ha!
im sick of my mates txting me rubbish, not sure who to believe...
some fookers just txted me Heskey to Newcastle in £30 million dead , c**t ;-DI think it will be £3m.
Would be funny if they sign Carroll and torres then failed a medical.
Juan pablo , are you sure you want to watch ? So many conflicting stories and David craig looks as though he doesn't know what day it is, coming going staying selling - poor man ha ha!
im sick of my mates txting me rubbish, not sure who to believe...
you know they're just getting it from Sky
If Torres doesn't complete his move to Chelski, Liverpool will have one unhappy boy on their hands
If Torres doesn't complete his move to Chelski, Liverpool will have one unhappy boy on their hands
Not necessarily, this could all be a ploy by Torres and his agent to land a new mega deal, see Rooney scenario
Carroll has handed in transfer request!
Carroll.
They were very, very reluctant to accept the request.
Carroll has handed in transfer request!
The local lad doesn't want to stay on the toon!
Carroll has handed in transfer request!
The local lad doesn't want to stay on the toon!
I think he will do well at Liverpool, if he can stay fit. There, I've said it.
Sky sports says Charlie Adam is now on his way to liverpool, where did they get all this money from? They still haven't sold Torres!
From BBC Sport's David Ornstein: "Just spoke to Gerard Houllier: Stephen Ireland move to Newcastle still ON despite rumours of a failed medical, Aston Villa and Newcastle in talks as we speak. Michael Bradley is a "done deal" and Ashley Young is "100% staying".
QuoteFrom BBC Sport's David Ornstein: "Just spoke to Gerard Houllier: Stephen Ireland move to Newcastle still ON despite rumours of a failed medical, Aston Villa and Newcastle in talks as we speak. Michael Bradley is a "done deal" and Ashley Young is "100% staying".
I struggle to recall a better transfer window for Villa, to be honest. Players in and players out.
Carroll back page of local paper ' I want to stay'- hours later he hands in transfer request, clearly ashleys way of averting the flak for selling the crown jewel.
Carroll would Have had a nice cut of the fee too - crafty cockney geezer that Ashley!
Could old 'arry of been telling the truth for a change too? There really doesn't seem to be much going on down spuds.
Liverpool fans waiting out side the ground on Sky for the arrival of Andy Carroll. haha
Officially a small time club.
Could old 'arry of been telling the truth for a change too? There really doesn't seem to be much going on down spuds.
None of their targets wanted to join them. They're not as big as they think they are it seems.
I struggle to recall a better transfer window for Villa, to be honest. Players in and players out.
Bent 18 million what a bargain!
Liverpool fans waiting out side the ground on Sky for the arrival of Andy Carroll. haha
Officially a small time club.
Losing Torres for carroll, I'd be gutted if I was a Dipper
Not 'half' as good as Carroll! 8)Bent 18 million what a bargain!
He looks a bargain all of a sudden
Anyone heard this i was told at work this afternoon, sky had reported that Reo coker and Bannan at Wolverhampton. i thought they both played well Saturday!
Anyone heard this i was told at work this afternoon, sky had reported that Reo coker and Bannan at Wolverhampton. i thought they both played well Saturday!
Anyone heard this i was told at work this afternoon, sky had reported that Reo coker and Bannan at Wolverhampton. i thought they both played well Saturday!
Sky sports says Charlie Adam is now on his way to liverpool, where did they get all this money from? They still haven't sold Torres!
Liverpool are apparently sending a car to Blackpool to pick up Charlie Adam. Can't he drive then? Lets hope he does become the next Sidwell now.
1812: Here's something worth bearing in mind if and when Liverpool and Blackpool agree a fee for Charlie Adam tonight. Rangers receive 10% of any fee and Seasiders boss Ian Holloway also gets a cut. Takes a bit of the edge off any potential windfall for Blackpool fans, but they would undoubtedly prefer Adam to stay anyway.
We always knew he was a Red Caroll, Caroll
He's got a dirty greasy head Caroll, Caroll
He punches birds he burns his house
But we don't care that's fucking Scouse
Andy Caroll Liverpool's number 9
Wow, wow. Wow. Liverpool being praised on SSN for the way they've conducted their transfers (including the Carroll one). Wow. Weren't we pretty much slated for the Bent one? I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
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BLUES HOPE LARSSON SIGNS NEW DEAL
Birmingham are hopeful that winger Sebastian Larsson will sign a new contract after failing to agree personal terms with Newcastle and Aston Villa.
Larsson is out of contract in the summer and previous attempts to reach agreement over a new deal at St Andrew's have faltered.
The Sweden international was also linked with a deadline-day move to Manchester City but the club's acting chairman Peter Pannu said: "Regarding Seb, although his agent had failed to reach any agreement with Newcastle and Villa, their loss may be our gain.
"Hopefully closer to the (summer) window, we can sit down with Seb again and, with the market tested by his agent, we can come to a sensible agreement finally."
Had a quick look at RAWK- the Ashley Young thread is equally annoying, deluded and strange. Despite all the qoutes saying he is not for sale they are discussing it like it has happened. The 'lets get bullying' comment made me chuckle... I believe they tried that to get in fat arsed Barry with 0% success.They're waxing lyrical over his set pieces, fuck me have they saw him the past 18 months
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=269627.880
Wow, wow. Wow. Liverpool being praised on SSN for the way they've conducted their transfers (including the Carroll one).
Had a quick look at RAWK- the Ashley Young thread is equally annoying, deluded and strange. Despite all the qoutes saying he is not for sale they are discussing it like it has happened. The 'lets get bullying' comment made me chuckle... I believe they tried that to get in fat arsed Barry with 0% success.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=269627.880
QuoteWe always knew he was a Red Caroll, Caroll
He's got a dirty greasy head Caroll, Caroll
He punches birds he burns his house
But we don't care that's fucking Scouse
Andy Caroll Liverpool's number 9
*chuckle*
Wow, wow. Wow. Liverpool being praised on SSN for the way they've conducted their transfers (including the Carroll one). Wow. Weren't we pretty much slated for the Bent one? I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
QuoteWe always knew he was a Red Caroll, Caroll
He's got a dirty greasy head Caroll, Caroll
He punches birds he burns his house
But we don't care that's fucking Scouse
Andy Caroll Liverpool's number 9
*chuckle*
Yep, nicking that.
Wow, wow. Wow. Liverpool being praised on SSN for the way they've conducted their transfers (including the Carroll one). Wow. Weren't we pretty much slated for the Bent one? I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
Bing Bong:
Monty to the Transfer thread, that's Monty to the Transfer thread thankyou.
Ten days ago Liverpool officials were openly claiming they wanted Ashley. Anybody would think they were a top 6 side. Wankers.Wow, wow. Wow. Liverpool being praised on SSN for the way they've conducted their transfers (including the Carroll one). Wow. Weren't we pretty much slated for the Bent one? I'm absolutely flabbergasted.
Only by Fist Face, ignore him.
1830: Mad. The world of English football has gone absolutely mad.
By Chris Bevan
So who Newcastle got upfront now. As there won't be much time to buy another striker.shola ameobi, Nile ranger, lovernkrands, Leon best .....brilliant
TonyD starts a Heskey rumour on here and ends up on Sky sports ;-)It has just been denied. What do they know! :)
Had a quick look at RAWK- the Ashley Young thread is equally annoying, deluded and strange. Despite all the qoutes saying he is not for sale they are discussing it like it has happened. The 'lets get bullying' comment made me chuckle... I believe they tried that to get in fat arsed Barry with 0% success.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=269627.880
Bradley confirmed!
Had a quick look at RAWK- the Ashley Young thread is equally annoying, deluded and strange. Despite all the qoutes saying he is not for sale they are discussing it like it has happened. The 'lets get bullying' comment made me chuckle... I believe they tried that to get in fat arsed Barry with 0% success.
http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=269627.880
Yeah, bully us with £35 million!
Bradley confirmed!
Cascarino says It shows Liverpool got ambition..... you mean their main man Torres wants out of there and they are desperate to get somebody in who is overpriced...
Dowie: "A good acquisition but £10-15 million more than the going rate."
So not a good acquisition then.
Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
Think we are under estimating what a good signing Bradley may turn out to be......Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
Wow, wow. Wow. Liverpool being praised on SSN for the way they've conducted their transfers (including the Carroll one).
Yes they must be very pleased with the way they asked Carrol to put in a transfer request to make the deal possible today.
Sounds proper new yorker accent. Movies style.
talksport 10 pm till 1am transfer window special.
talksport 10 pm till 1am transfer window special.
get radio 5 on.......could listen to motson all night!
Well done GH, Randy and especially Paul Faulkner who quite frankly does not get the credit he deserves.
Pires in reserve or preserve? he will go off soon.Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
Well done GH, Randy and especially Paul Faulkner who quite frankly does not get the credit he deserves.
Absolutely!
Cascarino says It shows Liverpool got ambition..... you mean their main man Torres wants out of there and they are desperate to get somebody in who is overpriced...
Chelsea for the title? Back on?
I'm putting £20 on them now after signing Torres and Luiz. Great signings. A lot of money.
So nothing happening on the warnock front?Ages to go yet
So nothing happening on the warnock front?
RADIO 5 wtf ! deluded liverpool fans
not listening ne more.
back to ssn
So nothing happening on the warnock front?
Left back in the reserves then
Anyone know how much Villareal paid Man Utd for Rossi ??
Cascarino says It shows Liverpool got ambition..... you mean their main man Torres wants out of there and they are desperate to get somebody in who is overpriced...
I'm amazed that man is allowed anywhere near a microphone or a keyboard.
Am I missing something - but listening to Dwie and that other turd you would think that the scousers had spunked 100M in Jan -as they keep going on about how the new regime have invested.
Excuse my maths - but LAdyboy for 50 and Babel for 6 (ish) - gives them c56M - they waste 35 on the geordie bird smacker and 23 on an unproved guy from Ajax = doesn't this net them out at a spend of c2M - that's not investment thats a good night out for Mike Ashley.
At to that whatever Holloway can get for himself and Blackburn - and your looking at a spend of c10M = talk about a sky wankfest for that lot - makes me puke.
PS - did i hear right that Chelsea play the bin dippers at the weekend - Torres hat trick would be luuuvely
Anyway fuck 'em - great window for us and that's all that matters
Onwards and upwards
If Adam does go it could pull the plug on Blackpool illuminating the PL. He is their rock.
Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
Cascarino says It shows Liverpool got ambition..... you mean their main man Torres wants out of there and they are desperate to get somebody in who is overpriced...
edit - clearly meant Blackpool not Blackburn - North WEst and shite - easy mistake to make
I'm amazed that man is allowed anywhere near a microphone or a keyboard.
Am I missing something - but listening to Dwie and that other turd you would think that the scousers had spunked 100M in Jan -as they keep going on about how the new regime have invested.
Excuse my maths - but LAdyboy for 50 and Babel for 6 (ish) - gives them c56M - they waste 35 on the geordie bird smacker and 23 on an unproved guy from Ajax = doesn't this net them out at a spend of c2M - that's not investment thats a good night out for Mike Ashley.
At to that whatever Holloway can get for himself and Blackburn - and your looking at a spend of c10M = talk about a sky wankfest for that lot - makes me puke.
PS - did i hear right that Chelsea play the bin dippers at the weekend - Torres hat trick would be luuuvely
Anyway fuck 'em - great window for us and that's all that matters
Onwards and upwards
Best striker in the world goneI can only assume you're taking the piss.
Cascarino says It shows Liverpool got ambition..... you mean their main man Torres wants out of there and they are desperate to get somebody in who is overpriced...
edit - clearly meant Blackpool not Blackburn - North WEst and shite - easy mistake to make
I'm amazed that man is allowed anywhere near a microphone or a keyboard.
Am I missing something - but listening to Dwie and that other turd you would think that the scousers had spunked 100M in Jan -as they keep going on about how the new regime have invested.
Excuse my maths - but LAdyboy for 50 and Babel for 6 (ish) - gives them c56M - they waste 35 on the geordie bird smacker and 23 on an unproved guy from Ajax = doesn't this net them out at a spend of c2M - that's not investment thats a good night out for Mike Ashley.
At to that whatever Holloway can get for himself and Blackburn - and your looking at a spend of c10M = talk about a sky wankfest for that lot - makes me puke.
PS - did i hear right that Chelsea play the bin dippers at the weekend - Torres hat trick would be luuuvely
Anyway fuck 'em - great window for us and that's all that matters
Onwards and upwards
edit - clearly meant Blackpool not Blackburn - North WEst and shite - easy mistake to make
The scenes outside Liverpool are amazing! they're over the moon with the Carroll deal. I'd be friggin gutted! Best striker in the world gone, Carroll in for £10 million less. That's not good business at allBest Striker in the world ???............I disagree
Cascarino says It shows Liverpool got ambition..... you mean their main man Torres wants out of there and they are desperate to get somebody in who is overpriced...
Cantscorino was visibly excited "Fantastic signing. They'll play with two up top now. Plus Adam on the left, they'll simply outscore teams."
Yeah, I'm sure Liverpool fans would have been absolutely delighted if you told them in the summer that they'd lose Torres but gain two effective Championship players.
Ok bit far, I should of said one of the bestBest striker in the world goneI can only assume you're taking the piss.
No chance of shifting Beye then?
Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
And Gardner, Herd and erm Salifou. And Clark if everyone else gets knacked.
Jim White, coming up on SSN!!
Stop Shouting...I CAN'T!!!!!
Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
And Gardner, Herd and erm Salifou. And Clark if everyone else gets knacked.
Don't forget salifou has been released. Makoun has his shirt number.
Who can you say is better though?No he isn't.
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
Don't forget salifou has been released. Makoun has his shirt number.
Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
And Gardner, Herd and erm Salifou. And Clark if everyone else gets knacked.
Don't forget salifou has been released. Makoun has his shirt number.
He hasn't.
Thats sorts the midfield for now!! Makoun + Bannan + Bradley with Delph + NRC + Stan + Pires to keep in reserve.Bradley confirmed!
Excellent.
And Gardner, Herd and erm Salifou. And Clark if everyone else gets knacked.
Don't forget salifou has been released. Makoun has his shirt number.
He hasn't.
Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
Forlan, Higuain, Drogba, Tevez...Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
I was undecisive about him but he can be unplayable on his day but he can also be rubbishWho can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
Forlan, Higuain, Drogba, Tevez...Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
SSN: "Tony Cascarino, is Andy Carroll worth 35m?"
Cascarino: "For me, yes"
God almighty.
I was undecisive about him but he can be unplayable on his day but he can also be rubbishWho can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
I was undecisive about him but he can be unplayable on his day but he can also be rubbishWho can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
and Carlton ColeForlan, Higuain, Drogba, Tevez...Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
You forgot Bent. And Heskey. And Zigic.
By that criteria, we can add Carew to the list *winky*I was undecisive about him but he can be unplayable on his day but he can also be rubbishWho can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
No............
I would.Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
I agree on paper its not a good swop but when you factor in that Torres wanted to leave and for the money they got for him and £20/£25m more they have got Suarez, Carroll and Adam I dont think its that bad a dealYeah I see your point. I got carried away saying he was THE best. Even still, I'd be gutted seeing him out and Carroll in.I was undecisive about him but he can be unplayable on his day but he can also be rubbishWho can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
Cascarino has fookin lost it , lost it before he signed for us
Let nobody fool themselves, Torres is a fantastic player who, with better players around him, will cause mayhem with Chelsea. £50m? Well, he's more worth £50m than Carroll is £35m, put it that way.
I agree on paper its not a good swop but when you factor in that Torres wanted to leave and for the money they got for him and £20/£25m more they have got Suarez, Carroll and Adam I dont think its that bad a dealYeah I see your point. I got carried away saying he was THE best. Even still, I'd be gutted seeing him out and Carroll in.I was undecisive about him but he can be unplayable on his day but he can also be rubbishWho can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
Let nobody fool themselves, Torres is a fantastic player who, with better players around him, will cause mayhem with Chelsea. £50m? Well, he's more worth £50m than Carroll is £35m, put it that way.
I would.Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
It's not just coincidence that the team that has Ibrahimovic in has won the league title every season since 2004 (Calciopoli notwithstanding) across five different clubs whereas Torres' domestic honours stand at one second division title with Atletico.
£35m for Carroll is making £50m for Torres look downright reasonable if not a steal.
I would.Who can you say is better though?
It's a toss up though. Everyone has opinions.
Torres is up there on a equal level.
David Villa, Ibrahimovic , Aguero, Messi
The wonderful view of opinions as I agree with your list there except for the zlatan. I wouldnt say he was better than Torres.
It's not just coincidence that the team that has Ibrahimovic in has won the league title every season since 2004 (Calciopoli notwithstanding) across five different clubs whereas Torres' domestic honours stand at one second division title with Atletico.
Equally you could of put Torres into that barcelona and inter team and he'd of had champoinship medals too. The team was great not just ibrahimovic.
But that's a great stat dave that I didnt know.
£35m for Carroll is making £50m for Torres look downright reasonable if not a steal.
Frankly what's it making Bent look like?
FFS, apparently our window has been comparable to Blues', according to Motson. Ridiculous.
fook, Arsenal tried to get Upson..... thats desperate.... Ireland back on.... no outgoings LISTEN PEOPLE NO OUTGOING expect Ireland and no Young, you deaf media cn**s
david Luis to chelski could be off
To be honest if offered bent or Carroll I'd have gone for bent as he is a natural goalscorer and has good temperament and has performed at this level for many years- Carroll is a good player no doubt but at the price not near as good a deal as bent will hopefully be.totally agree
Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp on Sky Sports News says there is "no chance" of the club signing a striker tonight, nor any chance of Peter Crouch leaving for Newcastle as Andy Carroll's replacement. "We were never desperate," he adds. Expect three arrivals to Spurs and the sale of the big man within the hour, then. Joke. Obviously. from the BBC
Torres £50m Carroll £35m Bent £18m. When are the press hacks going to lie down in the VP centre circle and beg for forgiveness from the Villa fans & staff, for questioning the fee of the 3rd highest scoring FAPL current player?
Jim White what a twat " I wish I was at home watching this"
Jim White what a twat " I wish I was at home watching this"
Jim White what a twat " I wish I was at home watching this"
I wish he was as well.
Jim White what a twat " I wish I was at home watching this"
I wish he was as well.
I wish he was at home watching me break his toes one by one with a hammer
He would still be shouting.How about a breezeblock off his nugget.Jim White what a twat " I wish I was at home watching this"
I wish he was as well.
I wish he was at home watching me break his toes one by one with a hammer
I think it's funny watching who ever he is co presenting with. As they wince having to sit next to him, shouting down their ear. U think they play rock, scissors, paper, stone to see who draws the shift working with old mr White?
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no wonder Charlotte Jackson looked really happy when she was finishing her shift....
"Harry" this, "Harry" that, FUCK OFF.
Jim White what a twat " I wish I was at home watching this"was as well.
I wish he was at home watching me break his toes one by one with a hammer
I think it's funny watching who ever he is co presenting with. As they wince having to sit next to him, shouting down their ear. U think they play rock, scissors, paper, stone to see who draws the shift working with old mr White?
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no wonder Charlotte Jackson looked really happy when she was finishing her shift....
Nah, it's 'cos she was going bowling with Gray and Keys.
Breezeblocks lack density. A granite cobble would work for me. But he would have to be able to see it coming. Nice flat trajectory, between the eyes, `thokkk!'You funny bugger!
Oh yes.
El Hadji Diouf gone to Blackburn - there's a marriage made in heaven.
Well, that seems to be our business done, what a great month for us in the transfer Market, well done to everyone involved!
El Hadji Diouf gone to Blackburn - there's a marriage made in heaven.
Rangers you mean. FROM Blackburn.
El Hadji Diouf gone to Blackburn - there's a marriage made in heaven.
Rangers you mean. FROM Blackburn.
nEl Hadji Diouf gone to Blackburn - there's a marriage made in heaven.
Rangers you mean. FROM Blackburn.
Thanks for clarifying that, Monty. I've been sitting here, scratching my head, thinking he was already at Blackburn and that I must be going mad.
What time does the window shut...Whenever.
...in North London?
Adam to Liverpool is dead. Clubs can not agree fee.Skynews
El Hadji Diouf gone to Blackburn - there's a marriage made in heaven.
Rangers you mean. FROM Blackburn.
Adam to Liverpool is dead. Clubs can not agree fee.Skynews
Liverpool offered 8, then 10, but Blackpool want 14.
I kind of see their logic there, though, if Liverpool are so brainspazzingly stupid to spend 35m on Andy Carroll, then maybe they'll spend that on Adam
Adam to Liverpool is dead. Clubs can not agree fee.Skynews
Liverpool offered 8, then 10, but Blackpool want 14.
I kind of see their logic there, though, if Liverpool are so brainspazzingly stupid to spend 35m on Andy Carroll, then maybe they'll spend that on Adam
Mike Ashley whatever we think of him has done a cracking bit of business. He has turned a 10m asset into 35m value.
Lpool have done equally well gettiing 50m for a player with crocked knees who is unlikey to play more than 30 games between now and end of 2011/12 season.
If Adams stays, I think Blackpool will stay up.
Even though their manager is now a complete tool, I hope they do stay up. They've been a breath of fresh air this year in all honesty.
If Adams stays, I think Blackpool will stay up.
Even though their manager is now a complete tool, I hope they do stay up. They've been a breath of fresh air this year in all honesty.
I agree. I just hope they lose 8-0 to a half arsed club on the way.
If Adams stays, I think Blackpool will stay up.
Even though their manager is now a complete tool, I hope they do stay up. They've been a breath of fresh air this year in all honesty.
Mike Ashley whatever we think of him has done a cracking bit of business. He has turned a 10m asset into 35m value.
Lpool have done equally well gettiing 50m for a player with crocked knees who is unlikey to play more than 30 games between now and end of 2011/12 season.
As if that fat twat had anything to do with it. The credit for it lies at the feet of Chris Hughton and his coaching staff and none of the idiots who run Newcastle. All they did was quote a stupid price and then laughed their tits off when the Dippers thought it was a fair deal.
Lots of rumours on Twitter that a late deal for Ashley to Liverpool is on the cards. Worrying, as GH said in his press conference, we don't want to sell him but you can never say never!!
Mike Ashley whatever we think of him has done a cracking bit of business. He has turned a 10m asset into 35m value.
Lpool have done equally well gettiing 50m for a player with crocked knees who is unlikey to play more than 30 games between now and end of 2011/12 season.
As if that fat twat had anything to do with it. The credit for it lies at the feet of Chris Hughton and his coaching staff and none of the idiots who run Newcastle. All they did was quote a stupid price and then laughed their tits off when the Dippers thought it was a fair deal.
Lots of rumours on Twitter that a late deal for Ashley to Liverpool is on the cards. Worrying, as GH said in his press conference, we don't want to sell him but you can never say never!!
Lots of rumours on Twitter that a late deal for Ashley to Liverpool is on the cards. Worrying, as GH said in his press conference, we don't want to sell him but you can never say never!!45 million and they have a deal.
Lots of rumours on Twitter that a late deal for Ashley to Liverpool is on the cards. Worrying, as GH said in his press conference, we don't want to sell him but you can never say never!!
Started by bored hacks I'd imagine.
Lots of rumours on Twitter that a late deal for Ashley to Liverpool is on the cards. Worrying, as GH said in his press conference, we don't want to sell him but you can never say never!!
Lots of rumours on Twitter that a late deal for Ashley to Liverpool is on the cards. Worrying, as GH said in his press conference, we don't want to sell him but you can never say never!!
One of my mates has just mentioned to me on Facebook about Warnock going to Fulham on loan with view to permanent - anyone else heard that?Please let it be!
I wonder if there will be any last minute Salifou type deals?
Will be pleased when the window
closes now, nervous about this Ash to the bindippers thing
Will be pleased when the windowLight's out at VP I hope.
closes now, nervous about this Ash to the bindippers thing
Will be pleased when the windowLight's out at VP I hope.
closes now, nervous about this Ash to the bindippers thing
Will be pleased when the windowLight's out at VP I hope.
closes now, nervous about this Ash to the bindippers thing
Can we have independent verifications from outside Bodymoor and B6 please?
Is Cascarino wearing a wig or is it a really bad haircut ?
How has GH managed to do what MON found so hard. Shifting...
Carew
Ireland
Davies
Osbourne
Guzan
Sidwell
Almost Warnock too...
Best part of £250k per week there!
Will be pleased when the windowLight's out at VP I hope.
closes now, nervous about this Ash to the bindippers thing
Can we have independent verifications from outside Bodymoor and B6 please?
North Stand is dark at least. Can't see the Trinity from my house but I believe all the business is still North Stand based.
Is Cascarino wearing a wig or is it a really bad haircut ?
Exactly what I thought. It has to be a wig.
[/quotIs Cascarino wearing a wig or is it a really bad haircut ?
Exactly what I thought. It has to be a wig.
"Cascarinooooo is it hair"
One of my mates has just mentioned to me on Facebook about Warnock going to Fulham on loan with view to permanent - anyone else heard that?
Is Cascarino wearing a wig or is it a really bad haircut ?
Exactly what I thought. It has to be a wig.
Robbie Savage has announced he is retiring at the end of the season and that he has "two tv deals on the table".
http://twitter.com/RobbieSavage8
I hope it's a channel I don't watch.
Robbie Savage has announced he is retiring at the end of the season and that he has "two tv deals on the table".
http://twitter.com/RobbieSavage8
Robbie Savage has announced he is retiring at the end of the season and that he has "two tv deals on the table".
http://twitter.com/RobbieSavage8
The skynews reporter outside Stamford Bridge looks like the chap from Father Ted.
Am liking the cool, calm chat on here tonight, much better than how I imagine the desperate dippers to be
Nzogbia aint happening to barcodes
Jim White going mental over how John Henry is backing KK with a shed load of cash, do me a favour love do the math!Actually when it's laid out like that it doesn't look quite so mental after all.
Torres + Babbel out = 57M
Suarez and carrol in = 58M
I would have been disgruntled if we had sold Heskey this evening.
Nzogbia aint happening to barcodes
Newcastle have hurt themselves today, nzogbia has turned them down and they don't have the time to get anyone in. They should have bought in Heskey for £5million this evening, that would have solved their problems.
Jim White is a nauseating shrivelled up monkey scrote. I wish somebody would shove a slapstick style custard pie in his shouty fucking face.
Torres will be on £180k a week. Takes the piss
Also read somewhere that N'Gog might be part of the Carroll deal.
They've just posted a link on the Grauniad updates to what's coming up on the Toon club calendar tomorrow - step forward Britain's new record signing...at least until Torres signs minutes later.
Torres will be on £180k a week. Takes the piss
Also read somewhere that N'Gog might be part of the Carroll deal.
Not that I take much notice, but surely he's scored a comparable amount to Carroll this season?
12 million for nzogbia, turned down
Torres will be on £180k a week. Takes the piss
Also read somewhere that N'Gog might be part of the Carroll deal.
Not that I take much notice, but surely he's scored a comparable amount to Carroll this season?
I think I read somewhere that Carroll has scored 11 goals in 20 league games this season.
Zaki scored 11 in 19 games
180k a week for Torres
Jim White going mental over how John Henry is backing KK with a shed load of cash, do me a favour love do the math!Actually when it's laid out like that it doesn't look quite so mental after all.
Torres + Babbel out = 57M
Suarez and carrol in = 58M
Just what you need in the transfer command centre where every nanosecond counts... Iain Dowie tripping over his cow's tongue and Tony Cascarino talking a load of old minge.Yes and wearing some on his head
180k a week for Torres
I think Jim White is about to explode.
I think Jim White is about to explode.Just ask me to press the button.
The skynews reporter outside Stamford Bridge looks like the chap from Father Ted.
Father jack?
How has GH managed to do what MON found so hard. Shifting...
Carew
Ireland
Davies
Osbourne
Guzan
Sidwell
Almost Warnock too...
Best part of £250k per week there!
The skynews reporter outside Stamford Bridge looks like the chap from Father Ted.
Father jack?
Yes I think if that's the "young onw"
Is Warnock still here ?
I am really going to miss this thread. You guys are awesome.
Baggy old harry has gone and done it again right at the last minute it seems- can't see where Adam will fit in though?
Is Warnock still here ?
shit Ive been on here for the day and forgot my tax return.. double fook......
No, jack was the old piss head!
Dougal was the young stupid one
Chief football writer Phil McNulty on Twitter: "And Stephen Warnock may yet get his move back to Liverpool from Aston Villa after all on loan." ......lets hope!
£214,525,000 spent
Chief football writer Phil McNulty on Twitter: "And Stephen Warnock may yet get his move back to Liverpool from Aston Villa after all on loan."
So did the facker buy the cant or not?
So did the facker buy the cant or not?
No
Are there two more sickening words than "Spurs Lodge"? What a shower of insipid c***s.
Fuck Spurs, fuck Harry, fuck Charlie fucking Adam, fuck Ian Holloway and his rehearsed speeches, fuck Jim White, fuck Tony Cantscoreino, fuck Harry again just to be sure, and thank fuck it's February tomorrow.
Ha ha. Bugger off, you droopy old toilet.
Who's going to start the July-August transfer thread then?
Crikey, Tony Cascarino really is staggeringly unintelligent.
Who's going to start the July-August transfer thread then?
Ow please can we wait till the window opens this time, this thread is too addictive when open.
According to the Sunderland Echo, Andy Carroll text the editor of the Newcastle Fanzine to say he didn't want to leave and was told he had to go.
Marvellous.
Look at the bloody state of Carroll at Melwood. He looks like the bass player in a Coventry-based Whitesnake tribute band.
Who's going to start the July-August transfer thread then?
Ow please can we wait till the window opens this time, this thread is too addictive when open.
You will all be absolutely delighted to know that Tamworth have bought Arnold Towns top scorer Jervaise Christie for an undisclosed fee.
You will all be absolutely delighted to know that Tamworth have bought Arnold Towns top scorer Jervaise Christie for an undisclosed fee.
It appears Arry's treble bluffed himself and accidentally not signed anyone
Who's going to start the July-August transfer thread then?
Ow please can we wait till the window opens this time, this thread is too addictive when open.
Crikey, Tony Cascarino really is staggeringly unintelligent.
NeillOMartin Neill O'Martin
Let's go shopping....oh shit
Apparently 'Arry tried to buy Adam on ebay. The fackin melt!
Apparently 'Arry tried to buy Adam on ebay. The fackin melt!
He did buy a shonky old XR3i for £850 though.
If Newcastle have no number 9, how will they win all those trophies they've never won?
Oh well, at least the local sandwich fillings got to wave at the camera.
The window has slammed shut. We managed to keep hold of Ashley Young because our demands were unreasonable. Unfortunately we succeeded in our panic buy of the most consistant striker in the premier league, but were unable to pay an English record fee for a player who has 5 months experience at the top level, this demonstates our lack of ambition. We failed in our bid for another 5 month veteran and had to content ourselves with an experienced world cup player. We could not keep hold of quality players like Sidwell, Osbourne, Ireland, Carew etc which shows a general decline and an obvious lack of commitment from the owner, not to mention the incompetance of the manager who obviously cannot fart in the general direction of the previous encumbent. We are facing disaster.
Oh fahk abaht! 'arry "face like a burst scrotum" Redknapp is on the blowah towkin' rahbbish 'baht sumfink wot dint 'appen.
I wonder if Torres will be allowed to play against Liverpool on Sunday?why wouldnt he?
I wonder if Torres will be allowed to play against Liverpool on Sunday?
"It's every footballer's dream to play for a big club and I can finally do that now." - Fernando Torres
"It's every footballer's dream to play for a big club and I can finally do that now." - Fernando Torres
What would the reaction from the self-appointed World's Greatest Fans have been if Hodgson had declared he wanted to ship Torres out and spend £35m on Carroll? He wouldn't have made it out of Merseyside alive.
What would the reaction from the self-appointed World's Greatest Fans have been if Hodgson had declared he wanted to ship Torres out and spend £35m on Carroll? He wouldn't have made it out of Merseyside alive.
Crikey, Tony Cascarino really is staggeringly unintelligent.
Indeed. He can't even say 'Birmingham' properly.
What would the reaction from the self-appointed World's Greatest Fans have been if Hodgson had declared he wanted to ship Torres out and spend £35m on Carroll? He wouldn't have made it out of Merseyside alive.
what would their reaction be if Newcastle had put in a bid for Torres of £13m plus Carroll
Crikey, Tony Cascarino really is staggeringly unintelligent.
Indeed. He can't even say 'Birmingham' properly.
yes , thick as pig shit- "berminum"
"It's every footballer's dream to play for a big club and I can finally do that now." - Fernando Torres
"Big statement of intent from Liverpool's new owners"
by using the money from sales to finance purchases? Well done SKY.
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Ireland in behind Carrol might have done all right, I can't see him doing well enough to get Newcastle to take a chance on him in the Summer now.newcastle loose thier toon idol and get and loon idle
I think we'll be stuck with that twat for a while.
Having diligently done little work today and spent my time looking at this thread for what's going on I decided to give up at 6pm due to confusion. It was a transfer window at that point without Harry, is that really allowed in 2011?
Returning tonight to find that Harry had tried so hard with about 30 seconds left of the window to secure Adams but failed because of a a couple of signatures.
Does Harry crave the company of SSN, does he have to appear to be doing something when he's doing nothing, is it Harry, is it Spurs, what is it?
I wonder if Torres will be allowed to play against Liverpool on Sunday?
There you go, with your insistence on wondering things none of us care about.
IN
Walker (Loan)
Makoun
Bent
Bradley (Loan with view to permanent)
OUT
Sidwell
Ireland (Loan)
Carew
Davies
Osbourne (Loan)
Hogg (Loan)
Wiemann (Loan)
Lowry (Loan)
Collins
I'd say that's an excellent window - some of the dead wood out, as well as youngsters going out to gain some experience. Add to that a new Right Back, 2 Midfielders and the Goalscorer we've been crying out for.
Did Warnock go to Liverpool on loan?
Caught 'arry wittering on about Adam just.
Aye, because Tottenham need a few more midfielders alright.
I genuinely wouldn't have thought that any club would ever do a transfer deal purely motivated by the thought of extra publicity, but with that shower you do wonder.
I loved all the candle burning scousers stating that Torres respecetd the club and knew what Liverpool was all about - then a few hours later Torres is on Chelsea TV stating that he moved to a bigger club - ha ha
They will be crying into their shell suits on Thieveside
Caught 'arry wittering on about Adam just.
Aye, because Tottenham need a few more midfielders alright.
I genuinely wouldn't have thought that any club would ever do a transfer deal purely motivated by the thought of extra publicity, but with that shower you do wonder.
I don't wonder at all. They did it for that and no other purpose.
In other news, I'd lay down some serious coin that Torres "feels his hamstring" in training before the weekend.
Did Warnock go to Liverpool on loan?
No he's still here, moaning.
Have you all missed the big news of the day?
Blackburn sign Formica
Touch wood he'll be good up top
So we smash our transfer recored and yet it is only 5th most expensive striker in the window after Torres, Carroll, Dzeko and Suarez. Not that I'm complaining, I think we probably got the best value, just struggling to get my head round it all.
DSalifou still here too with no squad number now?Did Warnock go to Liverpool on loan?
No he's still here, moaning.
"Carroll, whose fee broke the record paid for a British player, said: “I’m gutted to be leaving my hometown club, I was told to go. I didn’t want to leave that’s why I signed a five-year deal [with Newcastle in October]. I was pushed out of the door.”"
http://thesoccerroom.com/?p=22058
"Their first approach of £30million was knocked back by the Magpies and although they stalled on the improved offer, the club decided to accept the second bid after the England international put in a transfer request."http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_6715428,00.html
Interesting transfer window - it's the first where I see so many of the top transfers involving a player handing in a transfer request. While the previous ones were dominated by players hanging on not wishing to put in a transfer request and getting an extra milion or two of loyalty bonuses, this time it was completely opposite. I wonder what changed the trend?
Funny to listen to all the post transfer deadline day analysis and to hear that it is Spurs fans ringing in who are the most dissatisfied. After all the big transfers they have conducted over the last couple of seasons too. I think they've just realised that if take Bale (injured and probably off in the summer) and Van Der Vaart out of that team, it doesn't actually amount to that much...
Liverpool surely didn't bid £10m for Adam?What, you think they may have bid too much, Liverpool don't usually..... oh hang on.
so did peter whittingham..Liverpool surely didn't bid £10m for Adam?What, you think they may have bid too much, Liverpool don't usually..... oh hang on.
I read somewhere that Adam scored more in the Championship than Carroll last season, can't be arsed to look it up, but if true, it shows what a balls up Dogleash has made of this window.
Well, as they say in these parts, tidy lad, nice bit of work. I'm well satisfied with the shape and direction of the squad, we've signed sensible players, and, in light of yesterdays ridiculous displays, at sensible prices. It would have been nice to have shipped Warnock and Beye out but I'm not losing any sleep. Compared to how I felt at Christmas I am a new man.
Is this the transfer window that has seen most loan moves? It is something I expect to see more of in January next year, an inteeligent solution to the problems of over inflated trnsfer fees.
So ignore, if possible, the inflated fee. English players are invariably overpriced. But Carroll has a swagger that should make him thrive the higher he climbs. Unlike the £24 million Bent, Carroll contributes even when not scoring. He closes down, he links, he creates, he clears when back for corners.
Henry Winter seems to have had some kind of breakdown of late.
The ever-diminishing in my eyes Henry Winter:QuoteSo ignore, if possible, the inflated fee. English players are invariably overpriced. But Carroll has a swagger that should make him thrive the higher he climbs. Unlike the £24 million Bent, Carroll contributes even when not scoring. He closes down, he links, he creates, he clears when back for corners.
Creates? CREATES? If your idea of creating is a knock-down from a long-ball, then sure, he creates. For the love of god, you'd think he were talking about David bloody Villa, not a less intelligent version of Kevin Davies. Besides, Bent does contribute when not scoring, as his channel-running and high-pressure against Wigan testifies. Mind you, I wonder what they'd be saying if it were the other way around? The favouritism is utterly naked.
Edit: in the previous paragraph he says "There was something in the way he strolled into England training before last year’s France friendly that hinted at a class apart, an aura. Where Ashley Young and Darren Bent seemed inhibited, Carroll flourished." That's just a straightforward dig.
It's as though he's got to be seen to be going against the grain. Everyone thinks the Carroll fee is a bit mad so he has to say the opposite. In any case they haven't bought him to create, they've paid the money for one thing only; goals.
The ever-diminishing in my eyes Henry Winter:QuoteSo ignore, if possible, the inflated fee. English players are invariably overpriced. But Carroll has a swagger that should make him thrive the higher he climbs. Unlike the £24 million Bent, Carroll contributes even when not scoring. He closes down, he links, he creates, he clears when back for corners.
Monty, if you are signing a striker the sole concern is that the striker strikes. If he has other attributes to his game all well and good but above all else he has to score goals.
Rooney is getting away with it at the moment because Berbatov is finding his form but I don't doubt for one minute that Rooney's lack of goals is a concern for ManU.
Fair point, Monty, but if his overall game is good and he doesn't score the goals he'll be considered a flop.
Monty, if you are signing a striker the sole concern is that the striker strikes. If he has other attributes to his game all well and good but above all else he has to score goals.
Rooney is getting away with it at the moment because Berbatov is finding his form but I don't doubt for one minute that Rooney's lack of goals is a concern for ManU.
Alternatively, if you look at all the top strikers at the top clubs right now, none of them is an out-and-out finisher and hasn't been for nearly a decade now, since the heyday of Inzaghi. Same applies in all positions: if you can only do one thing, that's not good enough. Look at the examples of Juan Roman Riquelme and Lee Cattermole: one can only create while the other can only spoil in midfield, so neither is of much use to a top club chasing titles. Riquelme should be able to close down (if not exactly defend) and Cattermole should be able to pass very well (if not exactly make the play), but they can't and therefore neither will/would have ever found a home at a really top club.Fair point, Monty, but if his overall game is good and he doesn't score the goals he'll be considered a flop.
He'll need to score some goals, that's for sure, as you can't just be one or the other at the top (Heskey or Owen, for instance) - you have to be both.
if you can only do one thing, that's not good enough.
Hernandez is quality though.
One of the best summer signings.
I have to disagree slightly with Monty. You can get away with "just" being a clinical finisher if you're partnered with somebody who is more of an all round player. Look at partnerships like Andy Cole and Sheringham, even Rooney and Berbatov.
The ever-diminishing in my eyes Henry Winter:I find HW view of Bent really harsh,i know he's not got the skills of someone like Bergkamp,but not many have. He makes create runs,streches a back four,great finisher,and he runs his arse of every game ive seen him play. If we hadnt bought him probably Liverpool wouldve now,wonder what HW wouldve said then,after he'd taken King Kenny's cock out of his mouth obviously.QuoteSo ignore, if possible, the inflated fee. English players are invariably overpriced. But Carroll has a swagger that should make him thrive the higher he climbs. Unlike the £24 million Bent, Carroll contributes even when not scoring. He closes down, he links, he creates, he clears when back for corners.
Creates? CREATES? If your idea of creating is a knock-down from a long-ball, then sure, he creates. For the love of god, you'd think he were talking about David bloody Villa, not a less intelligent version of Kevin Davies. Besides, Bent does contribute when not scoring, as his channel-running and high-pressure against Wigan testifies. Mind you, I wonder what they'd be saying if it were the other way around? The favouritism is utterly naked.
Edit: in the previous paragraph he says "There was something in the way he strolled into England training before last year’s France friendly that hinted at a class apart, an aura. Where Ashley Young and Darren Bent seemed inhibited, Carroll flourished." That's just a straightforward dig.
Totally agree.Hernandez is quality though.
One of the best summer signings.
Pound for pound best signing of the season by a long, long way IMO. Sensational in front of goal.
Oh dear, 'Arrrry doesn't like the transfer window.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/9383600.stm
Oh dear, 'Arrrry doesn't like the transfer window.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/t/tottenham_hotspur/9383600.stm
I think this just broke the internet's Hypocrisometer. The biggest pantomime fanny dancing mouthpeice who should basically call himself "Mr Sky Sports Transfer window carnival" doesn't like transfer windows?
Not THIS transfer window maybe Harry.
Phil Neville completes the magnificent 7.
Oh yes, I forgot him. Moyes absolutely livid about that.That could be it actually. I was only saying to an Everton work colleague that I wouldn't be surprised if Moyes quits before the end of the season, as his demeanour struck me very much like O'Neill before he left. Could well be that he was pissed off at spurs, rather than contemplating jacking it all in.
Oh yes, I forgot him. Moyes absolutely livid about that.That could be it actually. I was only saying to an Everton work colleague that I wouldn't be surprised if Moyes quits before the end of the season, as his demeanour struck me very much like O'Neill before he left. Could well be that he was pissed off at spurs, rather than contemplating jacking it all in.
There isn't a single player bought by a top club, certainly not for top money, who is bought for one attribute. They have to be multi-functional or they're too limited and not good enough (for the record, I think Bent is far more multi-functional than anyone's likely to give him credit for).
Oh yes, I forgot him. Moyes absolutely livid about that.That could be it actually. I was only saying to an Everton work colleague that I wouldn't be surprised if Moyes quits before the end of the season, as his demeanour struck me very much like O'Neill before he left. Could well be that he was pissed off at spurs, rather than contemplating jacking it all in.
If the supporters turn on him I would expect him to think hard about it. He is clearly operating under all kinds of constraint.
Short of Celtic pitching up at Ibrox with Joseph Ratzinger up front there could hardly have been a more inflammatory signing for the weekend's Old Firm derby.
Samba has signed a contract until 2015 so that may rule him out of a summer move.phew
Tottenham made £35 million bid for Rossi? mental!Man City were after Rick Parfitt for £45m.
Tottenham made £35 million bid for Rossi? mental!Man City were after Rick Parfitt for £45m.
Tottenham made £35 million bid for Rossi? mental!Valentino? Maybe spuds are planning on converting the running track into a tarmac ring for him to race round. (that's if they get the olympic stadium).
http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2011/02/03/2335235/manchester-city-will-renew-attempts-to-sign-ashley-young-in
Ashley Young to Man City in the summer, i think is probably realistic. Pity he wont have longer left on his contract, but i would still ask for £30m based on recent events, and settle around £15-£20m.
I think we all know he is going, we just don't know where to.
Where's the 2011 Summer transfer thread?.....
No. Its time to move on.
I thank him for his efforts but we need a new number one and maybe a new back up too.
I just don't agree, Maz. Several top saves the other night which didn't hint at any loss of reflexes.
I think he's fine at present, I meant him deciding whether he thinks his body is up to another 12 months.
If Brad thinks he's up to it then we keep him. I don't think he's the type to just carry on for the sake of it and will be honest enough to admit when it is time to call it a day. For now there aren't many better so we stick with him and start planning for the future.
Johnson and Milner for Ashley Young. Done.
Johnson and Milner for Ashley Young. Done.
Johnson? Fuck that. Milner - Young, straight swap.
On loan maybe.Can't see him being part of Mancinis plans next season.Whose to say GH would want him back though..Johnson and Milner for Ashley Young. Done.
Johnson? Fuck that. Milner - Young, straight swap.
Do you honestly think Milner would come back?
I would willingly swap Ashley for Milner.Johnson and Milner for Ashley Young. Done.
Johnson? Fuck that. Milner - Young, straight swap.
Apologies if already posted,very amusing.Hitler finds out about Torres/CarrollAre people still making those tedious Downfall parodies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNu7P7MmdPs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNu7P7MmdPs)
I just don't agree, Maz. Several top saves the other night which didn't hint at any loss of reflexes.
I think he's fine at present, I meant him deciding whether he thinks his body is up to another 12 months.
He saves well when the ball is fired straight at him. I said he's a great shot stopper.
But too much goes past him where a younger keeper will get to them and I dont like him being rooted to his goal line. It puts a lot of pressure on our defence.
I'm very fond of him, he's a top bloke and a good keeper, but let's not pretend he's a top keeper any more and we need one.
Anyway, disagree all you like, its your prerogative, but he'll have to be replaced soon. That's just the way it is. He can't go on forever and its a position I definitely think we can improve.
I see GK Benjamin Seigrist has signed a 3 and a half year contract.He must be impressing...
I see GK Benjamin Seigrist has signed a 3 and a half year contract.He must be impressing...
The difference between this season and last is that - if we lose a key player - I have confidence that the manager can replace him.Bingo.
There are times when I look at Friedel and I think that there's no better keeper to have between Villa's sticks. And then you see games like Blackburn away, with his awful handling of Pedersen's opener. Granted, that's one mistake and every keeper has his dodgy times but just because he's knocking on I don't see any reason to dispense with him. I think we all know Guzan's never going to be the replacement so let's have a butchers at Westwood or Joe Lewis, play them in pre-season to see how they get on and gradually ease Big Brad out of the firing line. Too many teams just replace their keepers straight away with no thought to how they're going to command their defence and I would be loathe to just kick Friedel out because of his age.
I think we will be in for Milner in the summer whatever happens. Milner, Bradley, Makoun looks younger, more mobile and much better quality than Petrov and Reo Coker. Milner will come back if he thinks he is going to miss out on playing in the England side in his best position. There is a wide open opportunity to cement a place as a central midfielder, and he is pissing his career away playing wide for City, and someone needs to tell him so. Truth is Chelsea, United and Arsenal are still closer to winning the league a billion pounds later for City.
Depends if they force him out or not. They have form for discarded players recently, let's face it. He may want to try his hand at Champions league football, if they get it, but they'll be recycling players again and if he's not going to play, what's the point in sticking around?
He needs to go to a club that will play him in the middle and he knows we'll do that.
If Houllier wants him of course. He might not.
Although I've a feeling his work ethic, ability and versatility would strike several chords with Houllier.
I think we will be in for Milner in the summer whatever happens. .Ridiculous
Fuck Milner. He left us and people still salivate over him.
With Makoun, Delph and Bradley gradually displacing NRC and Petrov in the next few months and Bannan and Gardner not far behind, the centre of midfield is not a position we need to worry about.
Fuck Milner. He left us and people still salivate over him.
With Makoun, Delph and Bradley gradually displacing NRC and Petrov in the next few months and Bannan and Gardner not far behind, the centre of midfield is not a position we need to worry about.
I dont disagree entirely. But if, and its a big if, City come calling for Young, we have to consider what deals best suit us.
I agree that we'll have plenty of strength in midfield but there's always room for Milner, I reckon. We at least know his value and his strengths.
I know he left us and whilst disappointing, I understand why he did and if circumstances dictate that he could come back, I at least would welcome him.
But I wont criticise anybody that wouldn't. I think it's fair enough.
Has anyone apart from Sid ever had three seperate playing spells for us (not including players we sent out on loan that came back and then got loaned to somebody else)?
I wouldn't be amazed to see Milner back. Man U are after that Chile winger, they are the only team apart from Man City I remember being particularly linked with him previously. Of course, it might depend who Man City's manager is.
I very much doubt 'Appy 'Arry will be playing Chumps League next season.He'll be practically in the same boat as usHas anyone apart from Sid ever had three seperate playing spells for us (not including players we sent out on loan that came back and then got loaned to somebody else)?
I wouldn't be amazed to see Milner back. Man U are after that Chile winger, they are the only team apart from Man City I remember being particularly linked with him previously. Of course, it might depend who Man City's manager is.
I think if Milner became 'available' there would be plenty of clubs linked to him. Even 'Appy 'Arry with his cluelessness about defending would admit he needs a player with more steel in his midfield.
I'd have Milner back in a heartbeat.
But what about if it was one of those on/off relationships where you were meant to be together?If you feel the need to talk about it Bentman. PM me it sounds like you are holding back emotions you need to release ........
Christ: I'm turning soppy like supertom.
Milner; worse than Barry IMO (in how he left us, not ability). Let him rot there.