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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Risso on May 17, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
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Would you be happy with Ole Gunnar Solskjær as our new manager, yes or no?
It's a 'yes' from me.
Could a passing mod kindly add a poll?
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Yes, I believe I would. It's a gamble worth taking.
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Add a poll. Yes
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I thought you were a mod.
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Yes very much so, after years of boredom it would be nice to take a gamble. It may not pay off, but if it does it could propel us up.
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No thanks
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It's a yes from me.
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It's growing on me.
I'd now be very happy with OGS (probably slightly happier with Lambert). It'd be a bold move and you'd feel like we had a winner in charge who was involved in a long-term project to bring us success.
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A cautiously-optimistic yes from me. Wait, that is nei in norwegian, right?
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No. It's a gamble that could work, like Gregory did (for a bit). However, it could fail (like Turner).
I feel Rodgers or Lambert give a far better percentage chance of success, if we can't poach a manager from a club of that stature then we might as well give up. If Solskjaer goes on to prove himself at a club like Norwich or Swansea in the Premier League in the next few years, I'd be more than willing to take a chance.
At the moment, I feel we could do better.
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No
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For me, it's a yes. The last two appointments have been so stale, we've needed someone fresh and exciting for a long time now.
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No. It's a gamble that could work, like Gregory did (for a bit). However, it could fail (like Turner).
I feel Rodgers or Lambert give a far better percentage chance of success, if we can't poach a manager from a club of that stature then we might as well give up. If Solskjaer goes on to prove himself at a club like Norwich or Swansea in the Premier League in the next few years, I'd be more than willing to take a chance.
At the moment, I feel we could do better.
Who's to say that he isn't first choice ahead of either Rodgers or Lambert? There's also the chance that Lambert or Rodgers could say 'no' to any club who comes calling this summer in any case, whoever they are.
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
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I deleted the previous poll because I'm not clever enough to merge them. The answer is 'yes' by the way.
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Yes.
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It's 1,00000% yes from me
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No. It's a gamble that could work, like Gregory did (for a bit). However, it could fail (like Turner).
I feel Rodgers or Lambert give a far better percentage chance of success, if we can't poach a manager from a club of that stature then we might as well give up. If Solskjaer goes on to prove himself at a club like Norwich or Swansea in the Premier League in the next few years, I'd be more than willing to take a chance.
At the moment, I feel we could do better.
Who's to say that he isn't first choice ahead of either Rodgers or Lambert? There's also the chance that Lambert or Rodgers could say 'no' to any club who comes calling this summer in any case, whoever they are.
If he's first choice ahead of them he shouldn't be. As for question two, me. You're saying if Villa offered either of them money to spend, they wouldn't jump at the chance? I doubt that very much.
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yes,i think he's destined for great things, just a hunch. also be nice to have some good press for a change. and would raise our profile a bit. its took a bit of a beating recently.
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I believe he's first choice.
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ja takk.
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He wouldn't be my choice so No.
Having said that my choices, either Lambert or Van Gaal might not want to come. If so, i'd prefer OGS to McCarthy etc.
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Yes definitely I've just seen him on SSN, he looks about 12. This time tomorrow I think he'll be our manager. Exciting
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I see on Twitter a Norwegian journalist has said he's signed for us, obviously Twitter but still.
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I believe he's first choice.
Good move in your opinion?
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I believe he's first choice.
Good move in your opinion?
Very.
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I believe he's first choice.
Pass on our hearty congratulations!!
The more I read the more impressed I am.
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Yes.
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Yes definitely I've just seen him on SSN, he looks about 12. This time tomorrow I think he'll be our manager. Exciting
That sounds a bit wrong...
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I'll take OGS. I'd take Olga Korbett over McLeish or McCarthy!
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I believe he's first choice.
Good move in your opinion?
Very.
I think in some ways its a gamble but one worth taking in my opinion
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A yes from me, I think it's a great move! Forward-thinking, inventive stuff.....at last!
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I'm excited!
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
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He could be the next Venglos, the next Mourinho, or somewhere inbetween. I think he'll do well, and bring a much needed breath of fresh air to the place. If he's appointed, I'll be buying my season ticket next week.
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Yes, Scandanavian's serve us well.
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He could be the next Venglos, the next Mourinho, or somewhere inbetween. I think he'll do well, and bring a much needed breath of fresh air to the place. If he's appointed, I'll be buying my season ticket next week.
The thing is, that we're ready for the next Venglos now. We weren't in 1991.
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HUGE gamble. It will either be a masterstroke or it will all be over by Christmas. No idea which.
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Yes. On the flipside, he may not be ready yet. On the upside, he is clever enough to become a very good manager, and he is a winner.
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Hell yes, totally unexpected and as far from left field as you could get, but in a really good way, unlike last year. Give the lad a chance, I'm absolutely certain that he'll do better than the last one (whose name totally escapes me now!).
Last year it was WTF? with an angry expression, this could be WTF? with a flutter of excitment, huge difference.
But still just an internet rumour at this point!
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Bit worried by his limited experience but if/when he rolls up at VP as our manager he'll have 100% support from me. Left field/gamble - but wtf, get him in
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Big yes from me. Oh and imagine if the chairman backed him.
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Very refreshing
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Yes.
It's a risky outside of the box choice that is really growing on me. As i think Leeg said yesterday i would be happy for a mid table top ten finish after these past couple of seasons. We have no expectations anymore if you know what i mean.
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He could be the next Venglos, the next Mourinho, or somewhere inbetween. I think he'll do well, and bring a much needed breath of fresh air to the place. If he's appointed, I'll be buying my season ticket next week.
You're not local are you Risso?
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There's an element of risk with ALL managers. Lambert and Rodgers could turn out to find things as difficult as Coyle has this season, and this time next year we could be grateful for dodging a bullet. The thing with OGS is that he had 10 years of being managed by the very best there's been in the modern era. Hopefully some of that has rubbed off on him.
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yes....i think
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
And me!
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He could be the next Venglos, the next Mourinho, or somewhere inbetween. I think he'll do well, and bring a much needed breath of fresh air to the place. If he's appointed, I'll be buying my season ticket next week.
You're not local are you Risso?
Not exactly, no. But I hope to make it to a few more games next season.
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A very cautious, although slightly optimistic 'Yes'. We need a forward thinking manager who can stick with us for a good few years and build a good footballing philosophy into the club, if that man is OGS then so be it.
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
What does that mean?
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It's growing on me.
I'd now be very happy with OGS (probably slightly happier with Lambert). It'd be a bold move and you'd feel like we had a winner in charge who was involved in a long-term project to bring us success.
Well, not that long term. If he's a success he'll be offski pretty sharpish to fill Fergie's slippers.
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Its a yes from me.
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He could be the next Venglos, the next Mourinho, or somewhere inbetween. I think he'll do well, and bring a much needed breath of fresh air to the place. If he's appointed, I'll be buying my season ticket next week.
You're not local are you Risso?
Not exactly, no. But I hope to make it to a few more games next season.
Me too and I am local, It's having the desired effect already
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Even if we do want him, will we be able to a-fjord him?
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Yes from me, and the board have stuck to their word with the promise of a 'Young, vibrant manager'
Too early to dust off the Bright Future bit? Feels good, though.
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The experience thing doesn't bother me, Mcleish had plenty of experience and was dreadful. I'd like someone who's a gamble with fresh ideas and very evidently likes his team to play football. Get him in, ship out some of our trouble makers and bring in some footballers. It could be brilliant, it might not work, but I'm prepared to take a gamble for some excitement after the drudgery.
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A no from me .... man utd reserves, Molde then Aston Villa.... mmmmmmm
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Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
Sounds like Dave's trying to tell us he isn't wearing any underpants...
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
What does that mean?
'My hovercraft is full of eels'?
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if ja means yes then yes
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The experience thing doesn't bother me, Mcleish had plenty of experience and was dreadful. I'd like someone who's a gamble with fresh ideas and very evidently likes his team to play football. Get him in, ship out some of our trouble makers and bring in some footballers. It could be brilliant, it might not work, but I'm prepared to take a gamble for some excitement after the drudgery.
And it's a yes from me, as well. Exciting times ahead, in a good way, I hope.
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Yes!
Big, Bold, Brave by the board, and hopefully Brilliant!
100% support from me when he rocks up at VP.
Let the optimism return!
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A no from me .... man utd reserves, Molde then Aston Villa.... mmmmmmm
Guardiola went from Barcelona reserves, Villas-Boas was a backroom staff man, Mourinho was essentially a translator. If he has the aptitude it doesn't matter where he's been.
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Looking at our options, and looking at where we are now as a club, this could be the realistic appointment that gives us a much-needed lift. Ole is a winner, is intelligent, likeable, charismatic and has probably learnt one or two things about ruthlessness from old exploded sausage nose. He won't be anybody's fool.
The only thing I'm not sure about is the whole Man Utd connection. Perhaps it merely confirms the reality of our place in the football hierarchy, but I get the feeling Randy has been talking to Fergie again, and Fergie wants Ole blooded in the Prem in preparation for an eventual move to OT. We've been a feeder club when it comes to players, and now he (Fergie) sees us as a feeder club for a manager.
The bright side to all this is that he'll only go to Man Utd if and when he's successful, and if he's successful here, that's a lot better than us being mediocre under someone else. Let's give it a crack, get some young Norwegian talent to B6, and better still some excitement. It'll help us forget the previous 11 months.
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I think alot of fans might be nervous/have reservations but he might just galvanise the the support the way that Houllier and McLeish could never have done.
(fair play to McLeish by the way for his statement about his tenure at the Villa)
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I will repeat, in order to replace Ferguson he is going to have to do a great job a Villa for at least a couple of years. I'm prepared to take that chance.
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
What does that mean?
'My hovercraft is full of eels'?
It's something about wearing no undercrackers.
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
What does that mean?
'My hovercraft is full of eels'?
I hope it does mean that :)
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
What does that mean?
'My hovercraft is full of eels'?
"Would you like to buy something?"
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Big Yes from me. Playing it safe took us backwards.
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A no from me .... man utd reserves, Molde then Aston Villa.... mmmmmmm
Guardiola went from Barcelona reserves, Villas-Boas was a backroom staff man, Mourinho was essentially a translator. If he has the aptitude it doesn't matter where he's been.
This.
Great managers become great managers because they're given the chance. If we don't give him the chance, and someone else does, and he guides them to fantastic levels - we've missed out.
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If we can't persuade McLeish to come back and have another go, then OGS gets an enthusiastic yes from me, but I'd be just as pleased if it was Lambert.
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He'd have to be absolutely rotten to be as bad as McLeish. So even if he takes a while to find his feet, I think most fans would accept a mid table finish if it meant moving in the right direction and seeing some decent football.
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Yes, but not a delirious wet myself with excitement yes.
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I don't know really. It seems like a hell of a risk when looking at his career so far, but then the other managers we're looking at aren't what I would call anything special.
For me, the safe bet, but one that would still excite and galvanise us, is Paul Lambert. Taken Norwich from the third division to the first and kept them up this year. Perhaps I'm more conservative about my football than I realised, but I feel very uneasy about such a left-field appointment as Solksjaer.
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
Dine ønsker er vår kommando.
Thank you Dave.
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He'd have to be absolutely rotten to be as bad as McLeish. So even if he takes a while to find his feet, I think most fans would accept a mid table finish if it meant moving in the right direction and seeing some decent football.
Agreed that's why Villa is a great job at the moment. It's a big club where the fans for the time being just want to see us play some entertaining stuff and win a few games. Our current expectations are very moderate.
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Just watched the whole 46 minute documentary Gunning for Glory on youtube.. He doesn't half love Man United. But he also speaks fantastically about football and his hopes for Molde. Although - as suspected by others - his first game as manager at Old Trafford will be quite the love in I can't see him being like McLeish and rolling over. He's a winner.
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A no from me .... man utd reserves, Molde then Aston Villa.... mmmmmmm
Guardiola went from Barcelona reserves, Villas-Boas was a backroom staff man, Mourinho was essentially a translator. If he has the aptitude it doesn't matter where he's been.
I do have some reservations but when you put it that way, why not. A better bet than some of the names being banded about (McCarthy, Grayson...oh please !)
A yes it is then from me.
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I say YES, big time, and get right behind him, big welcome, big chants, give him every chance, enjoy some attacking footie, please.
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Hopefully he will make supporting villa fun again
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Oh - and at the very end he says his dream and goal is to manage in the Premier League. He does also say he'd love to manage United one day - but that's okay. Why not? He loves the club, he's bound to want to manage them..
The fact he wants to manage in the Prem bodes well.
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his first game as manager at Old Trafford will be quite the love in
And it'll probably be our first game of the season.
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A gamble, but a young, ambitious manager, fresh ideas, scoring from corners... bring it on.
UTV!
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his first game as manager at Old Trafford will be quite the love in
And it'll probably be our first game of the season.
And we'll win.
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A yes from me.
Lambert is my first choice and still is, but something about going with OGS intrigues and excites me.
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Is next year our year for the cup, yet?
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Just watched the whole 46 minute documentary Gunning for Glory on youtube.. He doesn't half love Man United. But he also speaks fantastically about football and his hopes for Molde. Although - as suspected by others - his first game as manager at Old Trafford will be quite the love in I can't see him being like McLeish and rolling over. He's a winner.
aye. its gonna be grim the interviews for that first match against them with the likes of Holt etc...
"So Ole, you've decided to leave Ireland on the bench for this game. Can you tell us how much you love United?"
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Not sure. Good name to be linked. And we will get plenty of press.
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I'm not sure why entirely, but I have a great feeling about this.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
That's the spirit.
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The Graun seem to have taken down their story on Solksjaer being the surprise odds on favourite.
Can anyone find a link?
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The Graun seem to have taken down their story on Solksjaer being the surprise odds on favourite.
Can anyone find a link?
Just says this now "This story has been taken down as it breached an embargo. It will be relaunched at 11pm 17 May"
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/may/17/1?newsfeed=true
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Chancing your arm when you are looking for stability seems odd so it's a no from me.
Prove me wrong Ollie. (but don't ever harp on about the mancs the way GH went on about the dippers)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/may/17/1?newsfeed=true
"This story has been taken down as it breached an embargo. It will be relaunched at 11pm 17 May."
What did it say ?
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/may/17/1?newsfeed=true
"This story has been taken down as it breached an embargo. It will be relaunched at 11pm 17 May."
What did it say ?
I think they were finally going to confirm why Barry didn't take the penalty.
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Yes, and give him a bloody good welcome, get behind him, and hope the owner gives him a good 25 million to bring in some players.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/may/17/1?newsfeed=true
"This story has been taken down as it breached an embargo. It will be relaunched at 11pm 17 May."
What did it say ?
I think they were finally going to confirm why Barry didn't take the penalty.
That's up there with who killed Kennedy and Princess Di. I don't think we'll ever really know.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/may/17/1?newsfeed=true
"This story has been taken down as it breached an embargo. It will be relaunched at 11pm 17 May."
What did it say ?
It basically said that it seems unlikely Solksjaer would want the job because his family is settled in Norway. Perhaps his missus has had a word....
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A yes from me.
Lambert is my first choice and still is, but something about going with OGS intrigues and excites me.
That's pretty much where I am as well.
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Even if we do want him, will we be able to a-fjord him?
I am viking this post very much.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
The Man Utd connection is not ideal, but surely the fact that we're set to hire him within days of sacking McLeish suggests he is the board's first choice and not some scraping of the barrel.
I find it very hard to believe that they would go for Solskjaer as a random panic choice after failing to get Lambert & co. - random panic would be to go for a 'safe' choice like Curbishley after several weeks of faffing. This looks like the kind of move they must have been researching over past few weeks.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/may/17/1?newsfeed=true
"This story has been taken down as it breached an embargo. It will be relaunched at 11pm 17 May."
What did it say ?
It basically said that it seems unlikely Solksjaer would want the job because his family is settled in Norway. Perhaps his missus has had a word....
Was it that one? I read that and said on here they think he will say no. Strange they embargoed that story though, it was a filler without a lot of thought.
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Another possibly negative, but honest opinion here. Why is everyone getting so excited about an unproven manager coming in? At the very least surely we'd be better getting someone who's managed in the Prem for at least a season?
Don't forget there are some very strong characters in our dressing room - we thought (wrongly) that McLeish would sort them out, but they fucked him over. I've seen or heard nothing about OGS to convince me he'd be able to address this.
Don't get me wrong I hope I'm proved wrong but I don't see him as the man to sort out what is a very sick club.
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A yes from me.
Lambert is my first choice and still is, but something about going with OGS intrigues and excites me.
That's pretty much where I am as well.
Same here.
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A yes from me.
Lambert is my first choice and still is, but something about going with OGS intrigues and excites me.
That's pretty much where I am as well.
Same here
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May as well stick it here as well.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is on the shortlist for the managerial vacancy at Aston Villa. The former Manchester United striker, who is in charge of the Norwegian club Molde, has emerged as a surprise contender to replace Alex McLeish.
Solskjaer's odds tumbled on the betting markets on Thursday and although no talks are yet planned to take place between Randy Lerner, the Villa owner, and the 39-year-old, he is known to be one of the names under consideration, along with Wigan's Roberto Martínez, Norwich's Paul Lambert and the Swansea manager Brendan Rodgers.
There are, however, doubts in Norway as to whether Solskjaer would be receptive to an approach from Villa at this stage of his managerial career and at a time when he is enjoying seeing his three children grow up in his hometown of Kristiansund. Solskjaer has two years remaining on his contract with Molde, whom he led to the Norwegian title for the first time in their history last October in his first year as a manager, and there is a sense that he would prefer to see out the remainder of that deal before taking a job overseas.
There is also the prospect of leading Molde, where he made his name as an exciting young striker in Norway before moving to Old Trafford in 1996, into the Champions League this summer. Molde will come into the competition at the second qualifying round stage and it could be difficult for Solskjaer to turn his back on that opportunity.
For the moment, Villa are weighing up their options, which could include considering the merits of Kevin MacDonald, the first-team coach under McLeish and the caretaker manager when Martin O'Neill walked out on the eve of the 2010-11 season. MacDonald is understood to be interested in the post. "I think Kevin would be a good candidate," Gabriel Agbonlahor said. "He's very good with the younger players and has won the reserves' title I don't know how many times. Obviously, it's the chairman's decision. But I don't think the fans should discount him because he's not a big name."
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
The Man Utd connection is not ideal, but surely the fact that we're set to hire him within days of sacking McLeish suggests he is the board's first choice and not some scraping of the barrel.
I find it very hard to believe that they would go for Solskjaer as a random panic choice after failing to get Lambert & co. - random panic would be to go for a 'safe' choice like Curbishley after several weeks of faffing. This looks like the kind of move they must have been researching over past few weeks.
The quicker we get over the fact that people will have heart wrenching ties to other clubs the better. I could not give a flying fuck if he will only get jiggy with his Mrs if she has a United shirt on, if he can do the job and likes to play a bit of football we should get behind him, because he might, just might, make our lives a little bit more fun by allowing us to enjoy watching the club that we love.
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Ah well that seems to be lacking in information.
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I'm not sure why entirely, but I have a great feeling about this.
Same here. I saw the news this morning and thought it was an odd choice but am really warming to the idea so a Yes from me. It is a gamble but maybe it's the time to stop being risk averse.
I'm also pleasantly surprised by the support behind OGS as a bit of unity is what we need now. Hard to think who else would get a less than 10% No vote aside from Pep or Mourinho.
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Even if we do want him, will we be able to a-fjord him?
I am viking this post very much.
he has an aura and wont bore the lass off us ? :-[
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
The Man Utd connection is not ideal, but surely the fact that we're set to hire him within days of sacking McLeish suggests he is the board's first choice and not some scraping of the barrel.
I find it very hard to believe that they would go for Solskjaer as a random panic choice after failing to get Lambert & co. - random panic would be to go for a 'safe' choice like Curbishley after several weeks of faffing. This looks like the kind of move they must have been researching over past few weeks.
The quicker we get over the fact that people will have heart wrenching ties to other clubs the better. I could not give a flying fuck if he will only get jiggy with his Mrs if she has a United shirt on, if he can do the job and likes to play a bit of football we should get behind him, because he might, just might, make our lives a little bit more fun by allowing us to enjoy watching the club that we love.
Indeed, there's probably plenty of foreign ex Villa players who have a big soft spot for us. Won't stop them managing (or indeed playing) for other clubs.
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I need a don't know option. I've got my reservations about it but i'm bloody intrigued at the same time.
I voted not but feel the same way as you. Perhaps it's the into the 'unknown' , could make or break us.
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If he signs, I'll support him. If he doesn't want to come as his kids are so settled, then sod it, go for Paul Lambert instead. A really bold choice by the board if it comes off. Either really brave or really stupid. At least they are showing some balls. I just hope that that tosser Ferguson isn't in the background dishing out his thoughts and advice!
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Nevermind sounds like he has numerous reasons to stay put at moldy. Shows over, lay him on betfair back to Allardyce, Mad Mick and the other journeymen hoof merchants.
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A yes from me.
Lambert is my first choice and still is, but something about going with OGS intrigues and excites me.
That's pretty much where I am as well.
And me, very intrigued indeed. I have a good feeling about it too, but I don't know why.
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Another possibly negative, but honest opinion here. Why is everyone getting so excited about an unproven manager coming in?
Because he's not a proven failure, like McLeish.
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Another possibly negative, but honest opinion here. Why is everyone getting so excited about an unproven manager coming in?
Because he's not a proven failure, like McLeish.
Exactly.
After a year of that nonsense, the minimum criteria are bound to get slacker.
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Just in case all common sense goes out of the window and we do go ahead, a few phrases that might help.
Yes = Ja
No = Nei
Thank you = Takk
Please = Vær så snill
Excuse me = Unnskyld meg
Excuse me how does Heskey get anywhere near the first team even when we are too shit to stay in the Prem = Unnskyld meg bibble babble bubble bumble Heskey crappus tossus overpaidus fat wakner
Hello = Hallo
Goodbye = Ha det
I do not understand how bone idle c$nts like Agbonlahor gets away with paying lip service to our 5th manager in 10 minutes or however long it is= Jeg forstår ikke, wakkaday houdi elbow, nic nac paddy Agbonlahor, bumface diddle.
Are Heskey & Amoebi the same person = Voordurk technic shittus wankus Heskey Amoebi barn dooreth miss shite twat.
Hope it gives you some value.
Ha det.
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er, takk.
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Has Randys private jet pilot got his Norfolks and Norways mixed up in search for a new gaffer?
Actually for me, very exciting. Mainly because of his youth and passion, and I have a good feeling and hope I am not wrong. As someone pointed out, serving under Fergie for so many years can't do him any harm (although a counter argument could be, would we be happy with Bruce or Hughes coming here who were under the same heirarchy; probably not).
Its a more enjoyable thought than a few of the names been banded about, thats for sure! Hope we get him.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
We haven't been "fucked off" by anyone so you're wrong.
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Just in case all common sense goes out of the window and we do go ahead, a few phrases that might help.
Yes = Ja
No = Nei
Thanks for that. Means I guessed right on the poll.
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Has Randys private jet pilot got his Norfolks and Norways mixed up in search for a new gaffer?
Actually for me, very exciting. Mainly because of his youth and passion, and I have a good feeling and hope I am not wrong. As someone pointed out, serving under Fergie for so many years can't do him any harm (although a counter argument could be, would we be happy with Bruce or Hughes coming here who were under the same heirarchy; probably not).
Its a more enjoyable thought than a few of the names been banded about, thats for sure! Hope we get him.
There was an interesting point about him spending so much of his time watching and listening to the manager and the coaches during the games as he was a sub so often and knowing the space from analysing the game from the bench allowing him to be so good at coming on to score. Maybe he is a bright cookie that can really take us forward. Our very own Rodgers, but with more money, bigger support etc.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
We haven't been "fucked off" by anyone so you're wrong.
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It'll be really interesting as to his backroom staff. Whether he brings his current clan with him or appoints British based coaches etc. Wouldn't mind the likes of Wilkins or Clarke being involved. OGS has managed some quality players as United reserve Manager so he can't be a mug I suppose. I am a bit shocked by how quickly this has happened, although I know he hasn't put pen to paper as yet.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
We haven't been "fucked off" by anyone so you're wrong.
Martinez last year?
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theres no doubt that OGS has quietly been building a very good reputation for himself in football circles over the last couple of years, i know its early in his career but i've got a feeling we could be getting a quality young progressive coach before somebody else gives him the platform which he is surely going to get sooner rather than later.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
We haven't been "fucked off" by anyone so you're wrong.
Martinez last year?
What about him?
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Another possibly negative, but honest opinion here. Why is everyone getting so excited about an unproven manager coming in?
Because he's not a proven failure, like McLeish.
Exactly.
After a year of that nonsense, the minimum criteria are bound to get slacker.
For me the key is that he got a job with a big chequebook turned up, saw what he needed to do to fill gaps in the squad and get a team to win the league and did it. In 1 season. That takes pretty much no mistakes, even in a poor league that's a very impressive start to his career.
Add to that the impression that they steadily improved through the season and then listen to him talk about how he wants to play the game and his ambition and he just comes across really well. Not as a nice guy who's saying the right things (but just isn't convincing) but rather like a winner who is telling you exactly how he's going to achieve his goals.
He also comes across as the kind of guy who will beat himself up over every mistake and really learn from it, Mistakes are fine so long as you learn from them, our recent history is for managers who haven't done that and that alone makes me excited by this prospect.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
We haven't been "fucked off" by anyone so you're wrong.
Martinez last year?
Last year? Are you in a time warp my friend?
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Pros:
apparently he plays attractive passing football
Won stuff in Norway
Bit of a name so ups our profile
He's not Mick McCarthy
Cons:
apparently he plays attractive passing football - another revolt from the Hoofs?
The stuff he's won is at a shit standard and he more or less bought the league
Loves Man U
Lerner apparently rates him
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Has Randys private jet pilot got his Norfolks and Norways mixed up in search for a new gaffer?
Actually for me, very exciting. Mainly because of his youth and passion, and I have a good feeling and hope I am not wrong. As someone pointed out, serving under Fergie for so many years can't do him any harm (although a counter argument could be, would we be happy with Bruce or Hughes coming here who were under the same heirarchy; probably not).
Its a more enjoyable thought than a few of the names been banded about, thats for sure! Hope we get him.
To be fair Bruce and Hughes were just players at United
OGS joined the backroom team there and would have been involved with coaching etc
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
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How much did he spend at Molde to win the league?
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Pros:
apparently he plays attractive passing football
Won stuff in Norway
Bit of a name so ups our profile
He's not Mick McCarthy
Cons:
apparently he plays attractive passing football - another revolt from the Hoofs?
The stuff he's won is at a shit standard and he more or less bought the league
Loves Man U
Lerner apparently rates him
So, two of your cons are due to not rating our players or owner?
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
We haven't been "fucked off" by anyone so you're wrong.
Martinez last year?
Last year? Are you in a time warp my friend?
Nope
Martinez spurned Villas advances a year ago and, after his astonishing end to the season in keeping the Latics up, has been installed as one of the favourites for the vacancy at Anfield.
Another go? Wigan's Roberto Martinez turned Villa down last summer, will they go back for him this time around?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145738/Aston-Villa-begin-search-new-manager-Randy-Lerner-flies-in.html#ixzz1vAYQJcBC
Getting bored with being right. Ha det
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
I believe he's on record saying getting the man utd job is his dream. He'll not be around long either way!
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Has Randys private jet pilot got his Norfolks and Norways mixed up in search for a new gaffer?
Actually for me, very exciting. Mainly because of his youth and passion, and I have a good feeling and hope I am not wrong. As someone pointed out, serving under Fergie for so many years can't do him any harm (although a counter argument could be, would we be happy with Bruce or Hughes coming here who were under the same heirarchy; probably not).
Its a more enjoyable thought than a few of the names been banded about, thats for sure! Hope we get him.
To be fair Bruce and Hughes were just players at United
OGS joined the backroom team there and would have been involved with coaching etc
I think he's very different from all the others that have come out from Fergie's shadow.
Most of them have had to move away to get coaching roles, OGS was on the verge of retiring away from the game and was convinced by Fergie to go into coaching.
Then look at the assistants that have left man u and failed, none of them have had the personality to be the 'main man' OGS seems to have that as well.
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If it's in the Daily Mail it must be true.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
I believe he's on record saying getting the man utd job is his dream. He'll not be around long either way!
Good luck to him, if he comes here and does well enough to get the man u job we'll have had a few years of being a damn sight better than 16th in thwe league with 37 goals all season.
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Nope
Martinez spurned Villas advances a year ago and, after his astonishing end to the season in keeping the Latics up, has been installed as one of the favourites for the vacancy at Anfield.
Another go? Wigan's Roberto Martinez turned Villa down last summer, will they go back for him this time around?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145738/Aston-Villa-begin-search-new-manager-Randy-Lerner-flies-in.html#ixzz1vAYQJcBC
Getting bored with being right. Ha det
What does that article prove? We went after him last season, so its unsurprising that we'd be linked again.
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I can't get excited about Lambert. I like the fact that OGS builds his teams around passing and good movement. It's what i've wanted to see us play for a long time. For people wondering how he would handle our 'big personalities' he can get all his medals out and wave them in their shit faces before he kicks them out.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
I believe he's on record saying getting the man utd job is his dream. He'll not be around long either way!
Who then, apart from the mythical foreigner Theremustbe Someone, is going to come here, be successful, and never want a bigger/better job?
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Nope
Martinez spurned Villas advances a year ago and, after his astonishing end to the season in keeping the Latics up, has been installed as one of the favourites for the vacancy at Anfield.
Another go? Wigan's Roberto Martinez turned Villa down last summer, will they go back for him this time around?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145738/Aston-Villa-begin-search-new-manager-Randy-Lerner-flies-in.html#ixzz1vAYQJcBC
Getting bored with being right. Ha det
What does that article prove? We went after him last season, so its unsurprising that we'd be linked again.
We clearly haven't gone after him this year, do you seriously think Dave Whelan would miss out on another ego stroking opportunity to tell the press his boy rejected us again.
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Has Randys private jet pilot got his Norfolks and Norways mixed up in search for a new gaffer?
Actually for me, very exciting. Mainly because of his youth and passion, and I have a good feeling and hope I am not wrong. As someone pointed out, serving under Fergie for so many years can't do him any harm (although a counter argument could be, would we be happy with Bruce or Hughes coming here who were under the same heirarchy; probably not).
Its a more enjoyable thought than a few of the names been banded about, thats for sure! Hope we get him.
To be fair Bruce and Hughes were just players at United
OGS joined the backroom team there and would have been involved with coaching etc
I think he's very different from all the others that have come out from Fergie's shadow.
Most of them have had to move away to get coaching roles, OGS was on the verge of retiring away from the game and was convinced by Fergie to go into coaching.
Then look at the assistants that have left man u and failed, none of them have had the personality to be the 'main man' OGS seems to have that as well.
Yeah I suppose, didn't really consider that with regards to them not getting involved in the actual coaching at Manyoo.
I think it is going to excite the majority of fans if we do get him though, and certainly falls under that press release of 'vibrant and young'. Norweigian league or not, he knows enough about the premier league I reckon to do well with us, and the quicker he (hopefully) gets hear, the sooner he can start getting rid of some of the deadwood and instilling confidence in the players who are going to be important to us.....maybe even re-vitalise Gabby!
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It's a yes from me and my missus (unfortunately) will also be renewing our season tickets.
A lot of points have been raised about him managing in Norway, didn't our own John Gegory move from the 4th division to the 1st division to manage, surely the Norweigan league is at a slightly higher level.
Another plus is that we should get all the young norweigan talent coming to us.
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It would be a brave exciting appointment, and probably attractive to him. Team of talented youngsters who he would know from red days, good support and chairman who would have to back him after mcknob appointment
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
"We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities..." That's the only accurate bit.
It's as if you want the rest of it to happen.
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Nope
Martinez spurned Villas advances a year ago and, after his astonishing end to the season in keeping the Latics up, has been installed as one of the favourites for the vacancy at Anfield.
Another go? Wigan's Roberto Martinez turned Villa down last summer, will they go back for him this time around?
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2145738/Aston-Villa-begin-search-new-manager-Randy-Lerner-flies-in.html#ixzz1vAYQJcBC
Getting bored with being right. Ha det
What does that article prove? We went after him last season, so its unsurprising that we'd be linked again.
We clearly haven't gone after him this year, do you seriously think Dave Whelan would miss out on another ego stroking opportunity to tell the press his boy rejected us again.
I don't think we have either. I'm just saying that its easy to link us because of the story last year.
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Top marks to Randy for trying. Totally left field and demonstrates that he's not oblivious.
Gripe dagen, Ole.
I want this.
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It will be very interesting to see if they back him with cold hard cash. If we go into the new season with 4 or 5 players in the 5-8m bracket then he's got a chance to implement his ideas. If they expect him to survive with the kids and the hoofers then I fear he will go the way of the last 2 incumbants however talented he is. To be fair i'd have the same view if rodgers or Lambert took over.
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
I'm with you. It's fucking ridiculous.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
I believe he's on record saying getting the man utd job is his dream. He'll not be around long either way!
Good luck to him, if he comes here and does well enough to get the man u job we'll have had a few years of being a damn sight better than 16th in thwe league with 37 goals all season.
We should be aiming for better than that Paul, surely? What a piss poor tinpot club we have become if that's what we are aiming for. It's the boom and bust Ellisian Aston Villa, all fits and starts and going nowhere in particular. There's no long term security in this appointment, we'll constantly be looking over our shoulders due to the manager being tipped to go elsewhere. In the meantime such a situation belittles our club even more in the eyes of the media because, of course, we will now be known as "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Aston Villa."
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
"We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities..." That's the only accurate bit.
It's as if you want the rest of it to happen.
Trust me I do not. Lambert or Rogers would be my ideal. Once upon a time the manager's at Norwich and/or Swansea would have walked from their posts to VP for our hotseat.
To reiterate, I do not want to be pissed off at the end of next or any other season.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
I believe he's on record saying getting the man utd job is his dream. He'll not be around long either way!
Good luck to him, if he comes here and does well enough to get the man u job we'll have had a few years of being a damn sight better than 16th in thwe league with 37 goals all season.
We should be aiming for better than that Paul, surely? What a piss poor tinpot club we have become if that's what we are aiming for. It's the boom and bust Ellisian Aston Villa, all fits and starts and going nowhere in particular. There's no long term security in this appointment, we'll constantly be looking over our shoulders due to the manager being tipped to go elsewhere. In the meantime such a situation belittles our club even more in the eyes of the media because, of course, we will now be known as "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Aston Villa."
Why would he be linked with any other job more than any other successful Villa manager would?
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Ole Ole Ole Oi Oi Oi
yes from me
his mrs is a Villa fan for a start and I would be very interested to see who is transfer targets would be .
It could be a very intersting exciting season , which makes a change from the last few.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
"We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities..." That's the only accurate bit.
It's as if you want the rest of it to happen.
Trust me I do not. Lambert or Rogers would be my ideal. Once upon a time the manager's at Norwich and/or Swansea would have walked from their posts to VP for our hotseat.
To reiterate, I do not want to be pissed off at the end of next or any other season.
I wasn't aware that the managers of Norwich and Swansea have had any say in the matter.
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Strikes me that "we'd better not employ such and such a manager in case he gets really good and leaves" is about as small time and short sighted as it gets.
Have you thought about just how good a job someone like Solksjaer would have to do with us to have a chance of getting the Man U job?
He might really want it, but that's one of the four or five biggest jobs in world football.
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Oh Bollox, here we go again. This is how this works:
We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities, one by one they f*ck us off and we're left with the shite.
I can see him kissing the red devil badge now as we go down to our customary demolition at Old Trafford.
It's all sooooooo predictable. Mug me off if you want but I know I'm right.
Yet another manager of our great club deeply in love with another. Woopee do.
"We get a manager, he proves to be shite, we clamour to get rid, he goes, we then wax lyrical about all the exciting possibilities..." That's the only accurate bit.
It's as if you want the rest of it to happen.
Trust me I do not. Lambert or Rogers would be my ideal. Once upon a time the manager's at Norwich and/or Swansea would have walked from their posts to VP for our hotseat.
To reiterate, I do not want to be pissed off at the end of next or any other season.
I wasn't aware that the managers of Norwich and Swansea have had any say in the matter.
Oops, sorry, they told me not to tell you.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
Even better.
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Unless Solksjaer wins the league with us he's got no chance of the ManU job. and we couldn't get near it throwing millions at it so on the pittance we give our managers now, he hasn't got a chance in hell of the ManU job however much he wants it. He must know that
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
I'm with you. It's fucking ridiculous.
Why?
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
I'm with you. It's fucking ridiculous.
Why?
He's going to need at least a month to come to terms with the departure of the ginger Mourinho for starters.
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
I'm with you. It's fucking ridiculous.
Why?
if we approached somene who just got his team promoted from Div2 would you be happy? Because thats about the standard.
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It's a yes from me.
The club's statement fits him exactly. So much so that it was probably written about him. If this happens, I should imagine it was set up before the Norwich match and could explain why Faulkner disappeared for a week.
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For those worried that he will use us as a stepping stone i say who doesn't, whether its a manager or a player if Man City or United come along and offer to double your wages with the added attraction of winning things they will be off.
If Sol is the one then Randy better back him with a decent war chest to give him half a chance otherwise he may well have gone for fat sam.
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For those worried that he will use us as a stepping stone i say who doesn't, whether its a manager or a player if Man City or United come along and offer to double your wages with the added attraction of winning things they will be off.
If Sol is the one then Randy better back him with a decent war chest to give him half a chance otherwise he may well have gone for fat sam.
amen. pointless unless he's given some cash
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I'm not sure I'm ready for a manager who is younger than I am but I said the same about the current Doctor Who.
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To begin with I was very much underwealmed, but the more I think about it the more I think we should give him a shot. Yes, it's a gamble, but it might just pay off. He'll also probably be far cheaper than a Lambert or a Martinez.
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Was he still in charge of the United reserves when they beat our lads 4-3(?) in the final last year I think it was? Either way he'll know plenty about Bannan, Albrighton, Clark and maybe a couple of the other younger lads breaking through.
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Strikes me that "we'd better not employ such and such a manager in case he gets really good and leaves" is about as small time and short sighted as it gets.
Indeed, cannot believe the number of people that are worried by his association with another club and the possibility that he will leave Villa. It's all part of the game, managers and players no longer spend their entire careers at the same club. If he's appointed and we play Man U I'd expect him to say" had a great time there, the club means a lot to me but I'm Villa manager now and I'm aiming to win ad many games as possible, starting with this one". Let's get behind him and give him some encouragement after all he's not McLeish.
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I'd rather take a punt on someone like OGS who may go on to be managerial great rather than sign one of the usual steady eddies who you know aren't (or never will be).
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He's 39 and never had a big job. Even if he does really well he's got to be at least ten years off getting the Man U job.
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Strikes me that "we'd better not employ such and such a manager in case he gets really good and leaves" is about as small time and short sighted as it gets.
Indeed, cannot believe the number of people that are worried by his association with another club and the possibility that he will leave Villa. It's all part of the game, managers and players no longer spend their entire careers at the same club. If he's appointed and we play Man U I'd expect him to say" had a great time there, the club means a lot to me but I'm Villa manager now and I'm aiming to win ad many games as possible, starting with this one". Let's get behind him and give him some encouragement after all he's not McLeish.
Indeed, should no English club ever take a punt on him in case manure are ever interested? And he'll have to have done a damn good job at B6 for manure to be remotely interested in him.
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Yes, 110% yes.
Why not? Even McLeish couldn't relegate us so we'll be okay whatever happens, and we just might be employing one of the up and coming stars of football management. Okay so when he gets us into the top four he'll be straight off up the M6 but fuck it, it'll be a ride.
Fergie would be a hard act to follow. He might fancy making his own history.
I believe he's on record saying getting the man utd job is his dream. He'll not be around long either way!
Good luck to him, if he comes here and does well enough to get the man u job we'll have had a few years of being a damn sight better than 16th in thwe league with 37 goals all season.
We should be aiming for better than that Paul, surely? What a piss poor tinpot club we have become if that's what we are aiming for. It's the boom and bust Ellisian Aston Villa, all fits and starts and going nowhere in particular. There's no long term security in this appointment, we'll constantly be looking over our shoulders due to the manager being tipped to go elsewhere. In the meantime such a situation belittles our club even more in the eyes of the media because, of course, we will now be known as "Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's Aston Villa."
Why would he be linked with any other job more than any other successful Villa manager would?
It's not so much the constant links as the feeling he would actually go. I find it very hard to throw any weight and faith behind a guy who dreams of managing another club - especially a club who competes in the same league as us. I can't imagine such a figure totally buying into Villa and making it the force it should be. In effect we are grooming this fella for another club and we are beyond that as a club, surely? This is a Championship level appointment. I can't stomach the thought that all our young lads at Bodymoor will be given "man utd this, man utd that," too. Appointing OGS would mean that from the top down this would not be an appointment whose philosophy would be to instill a sense that Villa is the ultimate or could be the ultimate once more.
Yes, it's fair to say other candidates might have dreams to manage elsewhere after Villa too, but I think it would be far more prudent to appoint such a candidate - especially if they don't have such overt links to another club - because it simply brings stability and removes a huge elephant from the room.
Obviously, all of this doesn't even touch his total lack of top level experience and lack of a record for turning relegation threatened clubs around. If McLeish was out of his depth what makes anyone think OGS won't be? If it was a Sunderland, Wolves, Middlesb'ro making this appointment I would be totally nonplussed. The fact that it could be Villa makes me think Randy Lerner has lost the plot. This is reckless and short sighted in my opinion.
I'll back OGS, should he be appointed, of course, but as with the Houllier and McLeish appointments this will be an appointment that leaves me feeling my hopes and dreams for Villa will not be be fulfilled. This is not a long term appointment I fear and we are crying out for just that. A long term Villa figure head who will lead the club to growth and success is what we are desperate for - really, does anyone seriously think OGS could be that man? I'd love to know why. (Apologies if this is rambling and makes no sense - it's time for bed and serious kippage!)
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He's 39 and never had a big job. Even if he does really well he's got to be at least ten years off getting the Man U job.
Not unless they are after a young manager. Fergie was, what, mid-forties when he got the job?
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If McLeish can't relegate us, Ole will certainly do better.
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if we approached somene who just got his team promoted from Div2 would you be happy? Because thats about the standard.
If said manager had taken said club from nowhere to gain promotion whilst playing good football then yes.
Look, call it intuition, madness, 'anyone but McLeish', fuck it, call it what you want, but I reckon we might just have picked up the managerial signing of the decade if he signs.
I don't expect you to agree Greggers, you only ever slag the club off, if we got Guardiola you'd say he had a shit first name.
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Strikes me that "we'd better not employ such and such a manager in case he gets really good and leaves" is about as small time and short sighted as it gets.
Indeed, cannot believe the number of people that are worried by his association with another club and the possibility that he will leave Villa. It's all part of the game, managers and players no longer spend their entire careers at the same club. If he's appointed and we play Man U I'd expect him to say" had a great time there, the club means a lot to me but I'm Villa manager now and I'm aiming to win ad many games as possible, starting with this one". Let's get behind him and give him some encouragement after all he's not McLeish.
heh. do you remember the fuss on here when Houllier said a few words before/after Liverpool? I'm like you, and OGS can sleep in a manu duvet off duty for all i care, but there's vocal minority who hate any manager who shows any affection for another club. you can bet with the United loving press something will be printed that will get them spitting bile on here especially if we lose
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Look, call it intuition, madness, 'anyone but McLeish', fuck it, call it what you want, but I reckon we might just have picked up the managerial signing of the decade if he signs.
Thems big words, Dave, fair do's for sticking your neck out though.
I really don't know what to think about it. I'll back him if he signs and just take things as they come.
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He's 39 and never had a big job. Even if he does really well he's got to be at least ten years off getting the Man U job.
Not unless they are after a young manager. Fergie was, what, mid-forties when he got the job?
And he'd just put together a better and more successful team than any Manchester United manager for the previous 18 years. Still, there must be somebody else.
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I understand peoples' reservations about OGS. I just think that, with the evidence about his style of play, his man-management and his will to win, this is a gamble with the air of a potential masterstroke about it.
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Look, call it intuition, madness, 'anyone but McLeish', fuck it, call it what you want, but I reckon we might just have picked up the managerial signing of the decade if he signs.
Thems big words, Dave, fair do's for sticking your neck out though.
I really don't know what to think about it. I'll back him if he signs and just take things as they come.
Yup, and I'll take all the slagging off that comes with it if he fails. I'm just strangely excited by this...well rumour at the moment! Just got a feeling that this is our way back, dunno why.
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if we approached somene who just got his team promoted from Div2 would you be happy? Because thats about the standard.
If said manager had taken said club from nowhere to gain promotion whilst playing good football then yes.
Look, call it intuition, madness, 'anyone but McLeish', fuck it, call it what you want, but I reckon we might just have picked up the managerial signing of the decade if he signs.
I don't expect you to agree Greggers, you only ever slag the club off, if we got Guardiola you'd say he had a shit first name.
well you made a fair point until you ruined it with the last paragraph of bobbins
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He's 39 and never had a big job. Even if he does really well he's got to be at least ten years off getting the Man U job.
Not unless they are after a young manager. Fergie was, what, mid-forties when he got the job?
And he'd just put together a better and more successful team than any Manchester United manager for the previous 18 years. Still, there must be somebody else.
so dave from the way you have been replying all night you seem to know more than your letting on, how far off an official announcement are we either way
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Come on Greggers, when was the last time you actually had a good word to say about the club you say you support?
Anyway, who do you want as manager?
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Look, call it intuition, madness, 'anyone but McLeish', fuck it, call it what you want, but I reckon we might just have picked up the managerial signing of the decade if he signs.
Thems big words, Dave, fair do's for sticking your neck out though.
I really don't know what to think about it. I'll back him if he signs and just take things as they come.
Yup, and I'll take all the slagging off that comes with it if he fails. I'm just strangely excited by this...well rumour at the moment! Just got a feeling that this is our way back, dunno why.
Did you watch the documentary on youtube that was linked earlier? His team look like they play some lovely stuff. Could be a couple of years before we see that here though.
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Did you watch the documentary on youtube that was linked earlier? His team look like they play some lovely stuff. Could be a couple of years before we see that here though.
Yes, and it made me want him more (ooerrr missus).
I'll take a couple of years of decent football and mid-table obscurity while he builds a team.
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What Ferguson or Manchester United thinks or does is not worth a tupenny-fuck to me! It's incredibly rare for a manager to stay at a club for any great length of time, these days. Even if OGS' ambition meant he saw us as a stepping stone on the way to Old Trafford, he'll be busting a gut while he's in B6.
This would be a far more exciting appointment than any of the usual has-been, jobbing no-marks who swap jobs every closed season and it occurs to me that Lambert (for example) may still see his job at Norwich as a work in progress, and might simply not be ready to move on.
His staying put could also be due to the fact he likes boating on the Broads or thinks that Cromer is a nice place for a picnic. Not everyone jumps at the sight of a cheque-book and, as we slag off all-and-sundry for a lack of loyalty, I say, "Good on him" if it's the case... Of course he might still go to Redscouse, in which case he's a mercenary git - but that would just confirm what I think about most top-level football people anyway!
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He's 39 and never had a big job. Even if he does really well he's got to be at least ten years off getting the Man U job.
Not unless they are after a young manager. Fergie was, what, mid-forties when he got the job?
And he'd just put together a better and more successful team than any Manchester United manager for the previous 18 years. Still, there must be somebody else.
so dave from the way you have been replying all night you seem to know more than your letting on, how far off an official announcement are we either way
I don't know; I would guess something might be said either way tomorrow. All I do know is that I like the sound of him.
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Strikes me that "we'd better not employ such and such a manager in case he gets really good and leaves" is about as small time and short sighted as it gets.
Indeed, cannot believe the number of people that are worried by his association with another club and the possibility that he will leave Villa. It's all part of the game, managers and players no longer spend their entire careers at the same club. If he's appointed and we play Man U I'd expect him to say" had a great time there, the club means a lot to me but I'm Villa manager now and I'm aiming to win ad many games as possible, starting with this one". Let's get behind him and give him some encouragement after all he's not McLeish.
Indeed, should no English club ever take a punt on him in case manure are ever interested? And he'll have to have done a damn good job at B6 for manure to be remotely interested in him.
Well, let's at least take a punt on him after he's genuinely proven himself in the game. Let's see him build a club up in Division One and lead it to the Premier League as opposed to buying the bloomin' title in Norway. His qualifications for the job at Villa are flimsy. If he had exactly the same managerial record but was called something like Åge Hareide would we all be happy?
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Did you watch the documentary on youtube that was linked earlier? His team look like they play some lovely stuff. Could be a couple of years before we see that here though.
Yes, and it made me want him more (ooerrr missus).
I'll take a couple of years of decent football and mid-table obscurity while he builds a team.
Oh, so would I. There's no use getting someone in and expecting them to get everyone playing great stuff immediately. I hope the fanbase as a whole have the same level of patience, I get the feeling lots of people are expecting us to turn in a season like Newcastle did this year. I'd prefer steady foundations to be laid, the club needs a new outlook.
Hope springs eternal.
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Strikes me that "we'd better not employ such and such a manager in case he gets really good and leaves" is about as small time and short sighted as it gets.
Indeed, cannot believe the number of people that are worried by his association with another club and the possibility that he will leave Villa. It's all part of the game, managers and players no longer spend their entire careers at the same club. If he's appointed and we play Man U I'd expect him to say" had a great time there, the club means a lot to me but I'm Villa manager now and I'm aiming to win ad many games as possible, starting with this one". Let's get behind him and give him some encouragement after all he's not McLeish.
Indeed, should no English club ever take a punt on him in case manure are ever interested? And he'll have to have done a damn good job at B6 for manure to be remotely interested in him.
Well, let's at least take a punt on him after he's genuinely proven himself in the game. Let's see him build a club up in Division One and lead it to the Premier League as opposed to buying the bloomin' title in Norway. His qualifications for the job at Villa are flimsy. If he had exactly the same managerial record but was called something like Åge Hareide would we all be happy?
Honestly, had he also been United reserves coach, yes. It's a similar route to Brendan Rodgers', for instance. Or AVB.
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Come on Greggers, when was the last time you actually had a good word to say about the club you say you support?
Anyway, who do you want as manager?
Well i was pretty solid behind GH, tried to stick with Mcleish even if the heart wasn't in it. More than most on here in both cases. I'm critical of the Lerner and Faulkner but then they are not the club.
as for who i want as manager goes none of the candidates are particulary enticing but i'm realistic enough not to expect a top name. Personally i want someone who given how close we went to relegation, will steady the ship and isn't a huge gamble. OSG for all his possible potential is a total leap of faith
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So, did Lerner's jet arrive in Oslo and did it fly back to Birmingham tonight with OGS on it. Has this been verified?
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He's 39 and never had a big job. Even if he does really well he's got to be at least ten years off getting the Man U job.
Not unless they are after a young manager. Fergie was, what, mid-forties when he got the job?
And he'd just put together a better and more successful team than any Manchester United manager for the previous 18 years. Still, there must be somebody else.
so dave from the way you have been replying all night you seem to know more than your letting on, how far off an official announcement are we either way
I don't know; I would guess something might be said either way tomorrow. All I do know is that I like the sound of him.
yes he sounds good. i said on one of the mcleish threads that i would like a young manager to work with an ex villa player in particular laursen so even if the manager does a runner laursen is there ready to step into the hot seat, great prospect, stacks of youth players from united to pick up on the cheap or loans, fergie might even suggest talent to him. strong links to norway in general and very well respected in the game.
my favourite villa manager was john gregory and he managed to step up well enough so i dont see the problem people have, benitez wants total control or that was our reason for not wanting him last year it was suggested, rodgers is as potential owen coyle and it is widely accepted within the game that it was martinez that is responsible for laying the ground work and rodgers is just reaping the benefits. martinez is most likely off to the dippers, villa-boas dont make me laugh he wouldnt be at all interested in us the man eats sleeps and breaths football from the age of 16 i think it was he has been at a big club and i honestly think he will go onto manage portugal, so who else do people expect us to get, i mean we accuse liverpool of living in the past daily yet we think we have a god given right to have the best managers in the world.
get him in, give him cash and watch him go, good or bad hes not mcleish and we cant possibly be this bad again next season
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I really dont get the excitement here, ive just read the whole thread and discovered the main reason for the excitement is that "he's not McLeish". NEWSFLASH McLeish has been sacked and is not coming back, so whoever the next manager is, its not going to be McLeish.
As for "he's spent a lot of time with Fergie so he must have learned something from him".. look up the history on the fella we just sacked! Theres also Bruce, Hughes, Ince, Keane all of which have pretty much proven they're not the next Fergie.
Paul Lambert has taken Norwich up with back to back promotions and then had a brilliant first season in the top flight with Norwich, it just puzzles me why people would prefer OGS over Lambert?
If you really want a young manager with fresh ideas for the sake of it then why not Martin Laursen?
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Watch the youtube doc on him. He looks destined for big things. If i were him though, I would stay there for a while. Lovely town.
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Yes. It's a brave appointment but he likes to play the game the right way. If it is him I am really looking forward to who his transfer targets might be. I want to see us playing football again and Solskjaer will bring that.
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my favourite villa manager was john gregory
I was with you until then. Gregory's style of football was one level above that of McLeish - just.
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Watch the youtube doc on him. He looks destined for big things. If i were him though, I would stay there for a while. Lovely town.
What channel was that documentary on? Oh yeah, it was on MUTV which is probably the equivalent of Fox News doing a piece on the Republican candidate in the upcoming American election.
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Ozzjim, ive just scanned the thread again and theres no link to any doc on youtube.. but im sure somebody could make Eck look brilliant in a documentary too
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I just think he fits the Molde.
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I'll get me coat.
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I really dont get the excitement here, ive just read the whole thread and discovered the main reason for the excitement is that "he's not McLeish". NEWSFLASH McLeish has been sacked and is not coming back, so whoever the next manager is, its not going to be McLeish.
As for "he's spent a lot of time with Fergie so he must have learned something from him".. look up the history on the fella we just sacked! Theres also Bruce, Hughes, Ince, Keane all of which have pretty much proven they're not the next Fergie.
Paul Lambert has taken Norwich up with back to back promotions and then had a brilliant first season in the top flight with Norwich, it just puzzles me why people would prefer OGS over Lambert?
If you really want a young manager with fresh ideas for the sake of it then why not Martin Laursen?
Bold bit - None of the people you've named were talked into becoming a coach by Fergie and handed the job of developing the youth team. I've also never seen Fergie suggest any of them as having a great chance of being his successor as he has with OGS.
Paul Lambert - I've said this elsewhere and I know at least a couple of other posters have said the same... he is too similar to mon for me. It would be percentages football with lots of balls whipped in from out wide for a big man and then a couple pacey guys around him. Don't get me wrong I think he's a good manager but I think he will have the same limitations as a guy a lot of people wanted rid of for not improving on 6th.
I suggested Laursen as an option before but he genuinely hasn't done anything yet and is too big a gamble so for that to work we'd need an older head as DoF. OGS is about 3-4 years ahead of him in terms of development and has been incredibly successful in the roles he's had.
It is a risk, but it's a very sensible risk to take. His reputation is largely based on hi as a player but everything about him suggests he's a winner, and that's what we need after the most defeatist manager I've ever seen. If he comes in and gets everyone playing with confidence it will make a huge difference straight away.
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Come on Greggers, when was the last time you actually had a good word to say about the club you say you support?
Anyway, who do you want as manager?
Well i was pretty solid behind GH, tried to stick with Mcleish even if the heart wasn't in it. More than most on here in both cases. I'm critical of the Lerner and Faulkner but then they are not the club.
as for who i want as manager goes none of the candidates are particulary enticing but i'm realistic enough not to expect a top name. Personally i want someone who given how close we went to relegation, will steady the ship and isn't a huge gamble. OSG for all his possible potential is a total leap of faith
So Greg. No one mentioned so far is good enough and yet you know we won't get a top name manager so it has to be someone up and coming or a Curbishley type.
They must come from abroad and be able to steady the ship. Despite the fact that if they come from abroad they will have little or no experience of being in the English game. Unless like OGS they played here for years. And they must be cheap.
Have I missed anything?
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Would be happy with Solskjaer. It's a change from the usual round of the same bloody faces. He's a Scandi so hopefully we'd have a headstart on finding the solid players that come from that part of the world. He's seen the highs and lows of football. And the crack about there's no such thing as a great save, just a poor shot screams quality. It says he has high standards and a level of insight many times higher than most managers. Even if it was tongue in cheek, it has touch of the Clough about it.
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Bloody brilliant choice. Out of the box, young, plays good football, adds a bit of excitement to the club again. I hope we get him.
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A yes from me.
Lambert is my first choice and still is, but something about going with OGS intrigues and excites me.
That's pretty much where I am as well.
Me too. Although after today Lambert appears a bit dull. Nah, I'd be happy with either.
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Nei nei nei
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The unpredictability is one of many things I am looking forward to. A bit like Houllier would have done, he'll look at technical ability first in a player and will utilise the entire globe in scouting as opposed to just an RAC road map for the UK.
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Very much a yes from me. We need to be bold, we need to shake ourselves out of the post O'Neill torpor of navel gazing and we need inspiration both on and off the field. If he fails, and I do not think he will, it will be an honourable effort to raise the game at Villa Park unlike the failures of past managers to deliver respectable mediocrity. If he comes I applaud the owner and the board for their courage.
Everything else apart our best hopes are the core of promising young players we have and there is a far better chance, as they seek to prove themselves, of bonding with a young manager trying to do the same. Plus he is scandinavian, happily married to a Villa fan, a family man and devoid of baggage. I shall be very disappointed if we do not get him.
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one million percent yes. exactly the unexpected left field choice we need to shake things up. no pre conceptions no baggage no PL experience, young vibrant guy with an impeccable pedigree as a player and early signs of managerial excellence.So much more exciting than the vast majority of usual suspects.
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Absolutely yes! A fresh, young guy with some new ideas....Houllier and Mcleish were so drab and uninspiring. Fuck them both. I would be really happy with Solskjaer...why not.
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I wouldn't say now is the time to take such a risk.Winning Scottish football titles was derided last year when AM came-OGS has so far won 1 title in Norway.
I'd be right behind him, but after the last 2 years I'd prefer Lambert
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Whatever you say about him, he's a winner. We need a winner and a winning mentality rather than the meek, defeatest and almost apologetic state we've worked ourself into.
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Yes. And I'm very, very excited. I've no idea why though.
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If I might, I would wish to suggest that we all take a deep breath. Nothing is set in stone, there is no deal done as of now. This is all about increasing options and trying to find the best fit for the club, be it OGS, Risso, or Dave Woodhall! There is a desire to get a manager in as expedient a way as possible, but I would say that it would be wise at this juncture not to become too committed to any one name.
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If I might, I would wish to suggest that we all take a deep breath. Nothing is set in stone, there is no deal done as of now. This is all about increasing options and trying to find the best fit for the club, be it OGS, Risso, or Dave Woodhall! There is a desire to get a manager in as expedient a way as possible, but I would say that it would be wise at this juncture not to become too committed to any one name.
Ah he has said no.....
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The first Villa manager who I can really remember the entire playing career of. Well, atleast his time in England.
Very excited.
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Wouldn't be my first choice, that's Lambert.However, i wanted a young, hungry manager for the last two appointments and would rather take a chance on a Solskjaer than go for an underwhelming yet safe Curbishley type. This is a great time to take the Villa job.After the last two years a mid table finish and maybe a decent cup run would be viewed as a decent season which would appease the fans.Solskjaer will have ambitions of managing Man Utd and to do that he's got to prove himself in the Premiership.Villa would be the ideal platform and lets face it if he took the Villa job and went onto United he'd have had to done a bloody good job with us.
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I think its either a shame or indictment in his own ability or perception that Sid Cowans doesn't think he is ready for a crack at management and OGS is plying his trade and getter some success and seriously being considered for the villa job.....maybe he sees what's happened with The God that is was Dalgleish at Lpool and doesn't want to damage his reputation by failing ..... Love Gordon but if true isn't the attitude a winning club would have in their ranks as a 'potential' manager of the future.
We desparately need a winning mentality after such a dour couple of years and a period of being happy with 6th place finishes ...
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As for "he's spent a lot of time with Fergie so he must have learned something from him".. look up the history on the fella we just sacked! Theres also Bruce, Hughes, Ince, Keane all of which have pretty much proven they're not the next Fergie.
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Nutters and/or boozers all. I am not surprised they had little to offer. You can add Bryan Robson to the list. They've all had minor moments, but only Keane came across as being particularly professional or thoughtful about the way the game should be played, and he should have been locked up rather than offered a job.
I have no idea whether Solksjaer will be a success or not, but I can buy into the idea that he will have an outlook and ideas the like of which we have been craving for years.
It's a positive move for me, the possibilities are there. At least we are buying a ticket - something we signally failed to do last year.
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Not at all, Ozzjim. But this notion that it is OGS or bust is untrue... Or that a deal is done and a press conference is scheduled...
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A cautious yes, I like the fact that it is a risk and offers something new. Better than a "Curbishley like" appointment.
Of course, his Newton Heath links will get right on my tits but as far as our young players are concerned it may work the opposite way.
They may be impressed when he walks into the dressing room, I wouldn't but then I'm an embittered old Villa fan who remembers Easter Saturday 1993 and still holds a grudge against everything to do with that "club". Those wounds run deep.
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A cautious yes, I like the fact that it is a risk and offers something new. Better than a "Curbishley like" appointment.
Of course, his Newton Heath links will get right on my tits but as far as our young players are concerned it may work the opposite way.
They may be impressed when he walks into the dressing room, I wouldn't but then I'm an embittered old Villa fan who remembers Easter Saturday 1993 and still holds a grudge against everything to do with that "club". Those wounds run deep.
My punching the air and celebrating Aguero's goal like it was a cup final winner for the Villa indicates that i'm with you there mate
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I can honestly say I have no idea if this is a good choice or not.
Even lambert's a bit of a gamble, after just one season in the prem.
I didn't realise he's 39.
I just had the image of a lad with choirboy looks telling Collins and Dunne to pull their fingers out. Only for them to give him a wedgey and tell him feck off. They have gotta respect him after what he's achieved in the game ( I hope).
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Yes from me as well. I would have been happy with Lambert as well but this is quite a refreshing change in direction.
As an aside. This clearly must have been thought about for some time by the board. I wonder when and how many times they've had his team watched? When did their league season end? Maybe the board decided long ago that AM was going. Given his quick dismissal and this "out of the blue" appointment (if it happens), it seems to me that AM was a goner a while back (barring a miraculous turnaround).
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Not at all, Ozzjim. But this notion that it is OGS or bust is untrue... Or that a deal is done and a press conference is scheduled...
Been burnt before haven't we. Are you aware of any other names in the frame? I actually like the idea of OGS, and think the club (Randy and PF) should be applauded for trying a different direction, and he certainly has the football philosophy that I would be looking for in the new manager compared to say a Lambert.
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"I just had the image of a lad with choirboy looks telling Collins and Dunne to pull their fingers out. Only for them to give him a wedgey and tell him feck off. They have gotta respect him after what he's achieved in the game ( I hope)."
He should turn up with all his medals..."alright boys, medals on the tables....oh, I see...well best you listen to me then!!"
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I often wondered why as a player, he seemed so happy being a "super sub". Rather than seek a move elsewhere.
Great finisher, let's hope he's a great manager.
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Right, Ozz, we have. In part, this why I am posting, simply to say that these things take time. Agents are involved, multiple discussions with various managers, etc. and thus it would be wise not to become too married to any one name at this point... Although I, too, would be in favor of OGS for many of the rasons mentioned by others here...
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Good.
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Right, Ozz, we have. In part, this why I am posting, simply to say that these things take time. Agents are involved, multiple discussions with various managers, etc. and thus it would be wise not to become too married to any one name at this point... Although I, too, would be in favor of OGS for many of the rasons mentioned by others here...
Thanks for posting. Lets hope PF and Randy can convince him. I get the outward impression from the media that Lambert (who I still worry is too much like Martin), Rodgers, Martinez etc are starting to believe their own hype and think they are going to walk into the Chelsea, Liverpool and United jobs. I hope we can pull off something a bit different. Sending your own jet over to pick me up would impress me I have to say, although watching the documentary on youtube from MUTV about OGS makes me think why would anyone leave such a lovely place to live.
I also think it is really important that whoever we gets is allowed to move on 3-4 of the bad lads so to speak, and gets a decent amount to spend.
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Yes, for some reason this appointment excites and I don't really know why. perhaps because were thinking outside the box a bit, something a bit different. agree with an earlier post how Lambert, Martinez and Rodgers might believe their own hype and are all clambering after the Liverpool job, let em have it. Im just a bit worried how much it would cost to have 'Baby Faced Assassin' printed on the back of my new shirt.
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Ole,Ole,Ole,Ole, ---- Ole, Ole
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I find the phrase especially ironic because I have an assassin-faced baby
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I can honestly say I have no idea if this is a good choice or not.
Even lambert's a bit of a gamble, after just one season in the prem.
I didn't realise he's 39.
I just had the image of a lad with choirboy looks telling Collins and Dunne to pull their fingers out. Only for them to give him a wedgey and tell him feck off. They have gotta respect him after what he's achieved in the game ( I hope).
The only manager who had a problem with Dunne was Houllier.Erikkson,Royle,Keegan,McCarthy and big Feck all spoke highly of him. Houllier is an odious turd I reckon even Cliff Richard would want to give him a dry one.
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Yes from me
Young, exciting, ambitious, different choice - can't see him saying we have to lower our expectations
Don't care about his love for Man U - all managers have ties to clubs - the point is he is ambitious and wants to do well.If you have an ambition to do a high profile job in your career then you are going to want to prove yourself and do a brilliant job wherever you are
I'll take several years of someone ambitious wanting to win at Villa.............
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Its a massive gamble but i think its worth it to be honest. looks like its gonna happen too. check link, randy's plane in norway
http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/05/17/sport/fotball/premier_league/ole_gunnar_solskjer/21645445/
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A massive yes from me. Solskjaer is a born and bred winner, his backroom staff have extensive experience and this is a bold and brave decision from Randy and Faulkner.
Give me this option over an old unsuccessful warhorse a la Bruce / Curbishley et al any day!
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I can't help feeling OGS would be a gamble, but only from the sense that he's untested as a manager in this country. A certain Dr Josef Venglos was meant to be an uber-manager twenty-or-so years ago and we know how that turned out.
That said, the players will be aware of what OGS has achieved with Manyoo (scoring a Champions League final winner in 1999, for instance) and so that will surely earn him some respect from the players. I still don't know to this day what Venglos did as a player, and I think that will be the difference.
So a yes from me then.
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80%+ say yes.. youve all lost the plot. Thats what a year of Eck does to you!
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80%+ say yes.. youve all lost the plot. Thats what a year of Eck does to you!
Maybe thats what people thought when Everton appointed Moyes. Preston to Everton?
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Yes....... but I can't help thinking that it would be a stepping stone to a club further North
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80%+ say yes.. youve all lost the plot. Thats what a year of Eck does to you!
At least The Year of Hell is over! :P
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Yes....... but I can't help thinking that it would be a stepping stone to a club further North
Unless you are at the top the pile, you're always a stepping stone.
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Not my first choice but I wouldn't be against the appointment. Would inject a bit of excitement at least.
Nice to see the board thinking outside the box this time instead of the usual tired choices though.
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Yes....... but I can't help thinking that it would be a stepping stone to a club further North
Surely he'd only be considered for their job if he worked wonders here?!
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He would have had to blindingly good with us to intrest United ...I'm ok with that
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This is a bit like the invisible bridge scene in Indiana Jones. It's a huge leap of faith with potential for great success or great failure. I'm undecided, though shading slightly to the yes side. I don't believe for a moment that things couldn't get worse than McLeish, but on the other hand don't care if we do become a stepping stone for him.
I wonder how players will react to the radical swings in footballing style over the last three years it would further represent, but at the very least it shows forward thinking.
Dunno.
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Just a side note. The frequent use of "stepping stone" has created a monster of an ear worm, that will be with me all day.
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a yes from me, as it just feels right.
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Cautious yes based on the fact he did a decent job with Man U Youth but it also says that RL is again going to ask him to bring on more as we tried to last year from our youth. This in turn means total lack of new investment to compete again, that's the bit i dont like
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Cautious yes based on the fact he did a decent job with Man U Youth but it also says that RL is again going to ask him to bring on more as we tried to last year from our youth. This in turn means total lack of new investment to compete again, that's the bit i dont like
But surely just because he will be asked to work and bring through our academy players (as long as they're good enough) why does that signal a lack of investment. What it means is if we have £20 million to spend it can go on a couple of key players rather than spending all that money on 7 or 8 crap, middle of the road Sidwell type players.
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After all the names mentioned so far, Ole is the only one I'm excited about us getting
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He's now odds on everywhere to be our manager. Lambert has drifted to about 5/1 second favourite....
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The worries that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer would use villa as a stepping stone are crazy too. So what if he does. It means we're successful. And it wouldn't be Manchester united i'd be worried about. They'd want him to be consistant for a number of years. The only team that would be gung-ho enough to rob someone else's success after a couple of years would be Chelsea.
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80%+ say yes.. youve all lost the plot. Thats what a year of Eck does to you!
Maybe thats what people thought when Everton appointed Moyes. Preston to Everton?
Try looking up Moyes' record at Preston before comparing him to somebody whos done nothing in comparison. Norwegian title (that was bought) is all he's achieved. Would be 3 crap appointments in a row in my opinion.
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This is a bit like the invisible bridge scene in Indiana Jones. It's a huge leap of faith with potential for great success or great failure. I'm undecided, though shading slightly to the yes side. I don't believe for a moment that things couldn't get worse than McLeish, but on the other hand don't care if we do become a stepping stone for him.
I wonder how players will react to the radical swings in footballing style over the last three years it would further represent, but at the very least it shows forward thinking.
Dunno.
yeh dunno either but as we only stayed in the premier league by default its not that much of a leap. Essentially we should have been relegated but the teams below us were cr8pper so we survived. We needed two wins to ensure safety and got a draw and a loss! FFS Alex you muppet.
Hopefully he'll bring us in a new direction, build from the bottom (hopefully sorting out the leaky defence) and got us at least competing on the pitch.
We got a get out of jail free card by staying up, so I say gamble it all on a project...
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80%+ say yes.. youve all lost the plot. Thats what a year of Eck does to you!
Maybe thats what people thought when Everton appointed Moyes. Preston to Everton?
Try looking up Moyes' record at Preston before comparing him to somebody whos done nothing in comparison. Norwegian title (that was bought) is all he's achieved. Would be 3 crap appointments in a row in my opinion.
Big follower of Norwegian football are we?
David Moyes got Preston promoted and then they did fairly well in the Championship. Certainly a decent achievement, but hardly something astonishing. Presumably if you want something similar then Nigel Adkins is your first choice for manager?
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I believe he's first choice.
Good move in your opinion?
Very.
I agree. I posted a similar though on the other thread.
This brings me nicely to another point.
Had I, or another non mod, started this thread instead of Risso, as good as a mod, would we have been met with the inevitable "We already have a thread for our next manager" and had it locked down? ;)
Think I can hazard a guess at the answer :)
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I believe he's first choice.
Good move in your opinion?
Very.
I agree. I posted a similar though on the other thread.
This brings me nicely to another point.
Had I, or another non mod, started this thread instead of Risso, a mod, would we have been met with the inevitable "We already have a thread for our next manager" and had it locked down? ;)
Think I can hazard a guess at the answer :)
Your theory breaks down on the point that Risso isn't a mod.
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Not my first choice but I wouldn't be against the appointment. Would inject a bit of excitement at least.
Nice to see the board thinking outside the box this time instead of the usual tired choices though.
Disagree with your second point - I think both Houllier and McLeish were pretty left field choices, no-one was really expecting either of them. McLeish for all the wrong reasons, but Houllier was an interesting one, which I think could have worked out but for his health issues. As for OGS, my initial reaction was it's too soon and too much of a gamble but having slept on it, and looking at the fact he likes to play proper football, I think it's quite an exciting way to go. Everton took a gamble on Moyes 10 years ago without any PL experience, and the likes of McCarthy and McLeish are living proof that PL experience should not be a deciding factor. I do wonder how much influence SAF is having here though....
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Yes - I would much prefer to see someone with potential given a chance hopefully bringing through the academy players than old style managers like Bruce, McCarthy, Curbishley et al.
I don't think he's much more of a risk than Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez.
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I believe he's first choice.
Good move in your opinion?
Very.
I agree. I posted a similar though on the other thread.
This brings me nicely to another point.
Had I, or another non mod, started this thread instead of Risso, a mod, would we have been met with the inevitable "We already have a thread for our next manager" and had it locked down? ;)
Think I can hazard a guess at the answer :)
Your theory breaks down on the point that Risso isn't a mod.
Which is why I just changed it.
He's as good as one, though, with 30,000+ posts
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As with transfers when one gets close, they get their own thread.
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I think there is a slight gamble, but less of a gamble than employing McLeish 12 months ago.
I'd be happy with Solskjaer.
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So now it is double standards for anyone who is a mod OR has enough posts?
The reason ths thread is here is because we are talking to the bloke in question. There will probably be one for Lambert if we speak to him.
It has nothing to do with who started it.
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If I might, I would wish to suggest that we all take a deep breath. Nothing is set in stone, there is no deal done as of now. This is all about increasing options and trying to find the best fit for the club, be it OGS, Risso, or Dave Woodhall! There is a desire to get a manager in as expedient a way as possible, but I would say that it would be wise at this juncture not to become too committed to any one name.
Randy's jet has just touched down at Ronaldsway. However, I'm not sure that I'm prepared to turn my back on Ramsey FC, so don't get your hopes up Pelty. You may have to go with your second choice of Dave Woodhall.
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Pelty seems to imply more than one agent has been spoken to and that nothing is anywhere near being settled.
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I think its fair to say that the club are keen on OGS.
I always have to make my own way to job interviews.
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80%+ say yes.. youve all lost the plot. Thats what a year of Eck does to you!
Maybe thats what people thought when Everton appointed Moyes. Preston to Everton?
Try looking up Moyes' record at Preston before comparing him to somebody whos done nothing in comparison. Norwegian title (that was bought) is all he's achieved. Would be 3 crap appointments in a row in my opinion.
Big follower of Norwegian football are we?
David Moyes got Preston promoted and then they did fairly well in the Championship. Certainly a decent achievement, but hardly something astonishing. Presumably if you want something similar then Nigel Adkins is your first choice for manager?
You're doing Moyes a bit of dishonour there. He took over a relegation threatened team and had them winning the division as champions less than 2 years later. He then did rather well in the championship or whatever it was called then.
I have no idea of what the Norwegian league is like and I didnt claim that i did in my previous post, only what Ive discovered in my research that he had more money to spend than his rivals. I'm guessing its more like Dr Martens league than the Premier league though.
All I'm saying is that if we are going to take a punt on a complete unknown I cant see why everyones so excited about it, and since we are taking a punt on a complete unknown then why cant it be someone with Villa connections?
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The worries that Ole Gunnar Solskjær would use villa as a stepping stone are crazy too. So what if he does. It means we're successful. And it wouldn't be Manchester united i'd be worried about. They'd want him to be consistant for a number of years. The only team that would be gung-ho enough to rob someone else's success after a couple of years would be Chelsea.
Exactly , If and when he went for the Manure game , he would be up against the mourinho and Guardiola's of the world for that job , so he would have had to do an amazing job at Villa for them to be interested.
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my favourite villa manager was john gregory
I was with you until then. Gregory's style of football was one level above that of McLeish - just.
oh the footy was not the best but we had some wild rides. and a cup final, and what i would give to top the league for 3 months again now, with the dross we had in our squad was a miracle admittedly he had signed some of said dross
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Heh. Just been reading up about Molde. apparently in his last season before moving to the plastic mancs he scored 31 goals in 42 matches and they only finished 8th so he knows all about shit defences........
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The worries that Ole Gunnar Solskjær would use villa as a stepping stone are crazy too. So what if he does. It means we're successful. And it wouldn't be Manchester united i'd be worried about. They'd want him to be consistant for a number of years. The only team that would be gung-ho enough to rob someone else's success after a couple of years would be Chelsea.
Exactly , If and when he went for the Manure game , he would be up against the mourinho and Guardiola's of the world for that job , so he would have had to do an amazing job at Villa for them to be interested.
If he was successful and went on to Chelsea it would still be a stepping stone to ManU.
I'd rather worry about where he might go in the future once we have a few shiny pots in the cupboard.
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All I'm saying is that if we are going to take a punt on a complete unknown I cant see why everyones so excited about it, and since we are taking a punt on a complete unknown then why cant it be someone with Villa connections?
Perhaps its indicative of the available managerial quality out there at the moment.
There are question marks against Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez for me. The last time a new Villa manager was might have been considered risk-free was when Atkinson left Sheffield Wednesday.
The only modern day equivalent for me is David Moyes, but I understand that isn't viable.
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Don't know anything about him as a manager, managed United reserves and Molde up in Norway. Thats as far as my knowledge goes. Villa would be a pretty big club for your first time managing a serious team. Another gamble by the powers that be. Do we need to gamble again? The other two didn't work out.
Not sure how I would feel about him managing us.....he could be the man this club have been looking for....he could be a disaster..... Do we need another season of uncertainty.
Jaysus.
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Not sure about OGS becoming next avfc manager but will back him regardless. Its a massive gamble and would have preferred Lambert
Im just worried that SAF has provided another letter to RL to give his glowing reference of him
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Id be more than happy with Solskjaer as manager. Like I said on another thread he had the balls to step out of Fergies shadow and go back to his own country to learn his trade unlike Bruce and other junior Fergies who like to keep as many link as possible to old red nose.
Also a Manure season ticket holder I work with says its the common belief up there that Solskjear will be one of the best managers to have played under Fergie and a lot of Manure fans want him to be there next manager.
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I always thought he would end up playing for villa towards the tail end of his Utd career!
Strange one this...
Fergie has said that OGS always wanted to get into management and would takes notes after every training match and he thinks OGS is set for the hot seat when the big man retires...
He was an exciting player and could really work out for us
However...
2 Things, fergie has said this about our last manager in a letter of recommendation... and the other, Fergie doesnt have a great record for his superstars going into management... Ince, Hughes, Bruce, Keane, etc (actually a huge list) (McLeish from his time at aberdeen! lol)
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Some reservations, but overall yes. Would give me positive feelings for next season anyway.
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It's got to the stage now where I'd be very disappointed if its not him.
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I hope we sign him.
I'm glad we're even trying.
Holt, Nursey, Whelan, Holloway, Baggie Bill Howell: fuck off. You can't put Aston Villa in a pigeonhole.
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Im just worried that SAF has provided another letter to RL to give his glowing reference of him
I doubt if Randy came up with this idea all by himself.
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Im just worried that SAF has provided another letter to RL to give his glowing reference of him
I doubt if Randy came up with this idea all by himself.
yeah. big worry if its the gobshite who recommended him
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Rio Ferdinand to be on the coach team? after watching that video
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Maybe it's the 40+ years of being a cynical Villa fan that makes me feels cautious about this prospect.
Who at Villa identified OGS? anyone know? Most people on here have been slating the club for not having any "football" men on the board. What has changed since the same board picked McShit last year?
I'm trying to convince myself that this would be a masterstroke but I always end up thinking that Wolves have got a better, more proven Norwegian manager than OGS.
I really hope I'm totally wrong
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Would rather have Rogers or Lambert.
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A risk - yes
A shift to a younger, more hungry manager, with ideas - yes
A stepping stone to Man U - not in the short term. Anybody who takes over directly from Ferguson is an idiot, let someone else fail first.
Go for it. The only name on the list that:
1. Is a realistic possibility
2. Excites me
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If you really want a young manager with fresh ideas for the sake of it then why not Martin Laursen?
Evidently no one else will take a chance on him because of his desire to manage Villa in the future
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OGS always comes across like an intelligent guy with a good attitude and a level head. He's got the makings of a top manager and has learned from one of the greatest. He also spent 10 years at Utd and so it goes without saying, that he's going to favour a passing, attacking game. As a striker too, he'll never leave Benty twiddling his thumbs like McLeish did.
It's a gamble, but in my mind, if someone really is the real deal, then they can make the step up. Fergie seems sure OGS is gonna make it. I know he loved Eck, but he's right more often than he's wrong. In the case of OG, Fergie probably see's him as more of a protege than most of his former stalwarts, certainly as OGS has adopted a similarly attractive style of footballing.
Go for it. Like others have said, I think an appointment like this is brave, exciting and we would probably be (I hope) quite patient and allow him time to change things round. We can be patient. We were patient with O Leary in his first season when we were struggling until Xmas time before going on a strong run. We were also patient with O Neill in his first season when we didn't win in 14 odd games. I don't like the perception that it takes 2 games and we're baying for managerial blood. The fact is McLeish was ludicrous appointment. No one wanted him or his ugly brand of football. We still gave him a fair amount of backing initially, once the shock of appointment had settled.
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My other thought was if he has got a team the equivalent of our division 2 as someone has said on here playing good football then surely with the better calibre of player (arguable at times I know) at his disposal at Villa Park then he can do something really good.
Surely it's as much about the idea and the philosophy a person has in football as much as the experience. How do you gain that experience if no one is prepared to give you a shot.
I wouldn't be upset if we ended up with lambert but it is safe. It is same old same old. We've been crying out for a change, for something fresh for years. Someone who can potentially slot in to what we have with the academy and have a villa way. I don't think that will happen with Lambert.
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Not my first choice but I wouldn't be against the appointment. Would inject a bit of excitement at least.
Nice to see the board thinking outside the box this time instead of the usual tired choices though.
About sums it perfectly for me
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A coutious yes from me. I would really like Lambert, but if he has said no then I am more than happy with OGS. It would be interesting if he bought Laursen in to his team, but the only reason I am thinking this is because they are both Scandinavian!
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I hope we sign him.
I'm glad we're even trying.
Holt, Nursey, Whelan, Holloway, Baggie Bill Howell: fuck off. You can't put Aston Villa in a pigeonhole.
Right On Brother !!
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I really hope this comes off
It feels to me like theres a spark of excitement with this possibility, yes it could go tits up.... but so could Guardiola or any other manager you can name.
I hope its a ride that involves more ups than downs, that gets people wanting to go to VP because the football is more attacking and more exciting than the sheer dross weve had to put up with for the last few seasons
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Could this be another fine mess he's got us into?
I don't think so, this shows that when they said vibrant they meant it. Solksjaer was a great player who's learnt from the best; his short managerial career has been good and I reckon he's worth a punt.
If it didn't work out we couldn't blame the board for playing safe and if it does he'd leave with our blessing (if one of the very big clubs came after him).
I also like to think he'd be able to attract some half decent players to the club too.
Fingers crossed.
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We could have Stan and Ole in charge if Petrov were given a coaching role.........
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So Molde have confirmed our interest, said they're willing to negotiate, and Lerner's plane is on it's way back?
Sounds done.
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Of all the ex-Fergalites in management now. OGS is the one with the least amount of ego, the most level temperament, and actually the one who comes across as the most considered and intilligent. The most notable others were all quite aggressive players, blood and thunder and never really managed to adopt the sort of passing football that Utd played and we'd crave. A bunch of hoofers in truth.
None of them will ever get Fergies job, but OGS might well do.
This excites me in any case. It'll add some mystery, because lets face it, with McLeish we knew exactly what was coming.
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Not saying it's true but I read Klinsmann advised Lerner that OGS was the best up and coming coach in world football.
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Anyone in doubt watch this-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ebW1vJAlY
seems a great fit for us , elsewhere breaking news that brendan rodgers has turned down chance to talk with liverpool and said he wants to stay at swansea.
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Just seen on the SSN website that apparently we're in for Gollum.
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80% in favour, thats incredible, me to
but it does show that all the arguments for and against other managers like
Rogers - 1st year proves nothing, Failed at Reading
Lambert - MON mini me, plays to direct, not a track suit coach
Martinez - team only plays last 2 months of the season, always battling relegation
Di Mateo - sacked from WBA
all the arguments are a heap load of shit when it comes down to it,
its all about a feeling, a hunch, OGS is coming from a league worse than the Scottish prem, yet 80% of us are willing to overlook all the other faults we have found in the other managers we dont have a 'good feeling' for and lump on Ole.
i to have a good feeling about the lad, i think its worth a go, its an exciting prospect, but the reason is because it just feels right, there is not a lot else to back it up, but hey, i'm a gambler by nature
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Molde have allowed Villa to talk to Ole .
dont know if that is old news as why would Randy go there If he didnt know he was even allowed to talk to him .
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Just seen on the SSN website that apparently we're in for Gollum.
Haha, the sublime to the ridiculous
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Just seen on the SSN website that apparently we're in for Gollum.
Who?
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We could have Stan and Ole in charge if Petrov were given a coaching role.........
I very much doubt he'll will be back anytime soon, especially as he has an incredible battle on his hands.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/7763321/Villa-make-Solskjaer-contact
My preciousssssssss....
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Acoording to molde news plane has now left with one extra passenger and ole hasnt turned up for training - welcome to the west midlands ole!
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I had my doubts 2 days ago but after considering it im starting to come around to having him in charge.
Its been posted here once or twice but this vid of him does him justice.
I always put myself in a players shoes and think would he inspire me, would I become a better player...and after watching that I can only say probably a thousand times more than McLeish ever would!
Oh, lovely scenery around the stadium...
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Molde Football Club is aware of interest and contact from Aston Villa, and is aware that Aston Villa and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer are talking together.
That's from their club site.
http://tiny.cc/xzxhew
Just click the press release.
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Come on Ole come to Villa and start to build a philosophy at the club.
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Just seen on the SSN website that apparently we're in for Gollum.
Who?
Gollum
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We could have Stan and Ole in charge if Petrov were given a coaching role.........
I very much doubt he'll will be back anytime soon, especially as he has an incredible battle on his hands.
i dont think you quite got the pun.
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The Gollum nickname should be reserved for Moyes, surely?
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A yes from me only if (i) a DoF is also incoming with a more established network and (ii) he is given support to build a team with relatively good investment (and not lumbered with sorting more crap out - which can be done by the DoF).
I'm excited by what he can bring but he's a very young manager and will need some support so he can focus on team affairs while he increases his experience. Young players will relish playing under OGS (a requirement on one of my previous posts).
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Just seen on the SSN website that apparently we're in for Gollum.
Who?
Gollum
isnt gollum that carrot muncher from Blackpool ?
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It's a yes from he was a top player and after working under Fergie all those years it will stand him in good stead I will be happy if he become's our new manager.
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It has the potential to go either way. I think it will be a good move especially if we can get someone like Ray Wilkins to work with him.
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Acoording to molde news plane has now left with one extra passenger and ole hasnt turned up for training - welcome to the west midlands ole!
Bham airport straight to Bodymoor , he will love it and we dont have to drive him through small Heath or Alum rock with a bag on his head .
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A page or two back it was aksed if Randy and Faulkner came up with Ole's name themselves, and someone said Klinsman was believed to have had an input.
Very possible, but I wonder if Commolli was involved also? He was reported to be speaking to the club, and was at the Spurs game, but they've now said they won't be employing a DOF. So perhaps he was acting as a consultant in regards to a new manager?
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If I was on that plane I'd make sure I was just finishing a big shit as we flew over the DW stadium enroute to BHX hitting flush at just the right time to drop a big hot steaming number 2 in the Wigan centre circle, have that Whelan.
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wow sky sports ticker say rodgers has rejected the chance to speak to liverpool
see people its not as cut and dried as it may seem to pull a manager from a small club, us with wigan last season, liverpool with swansea this
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Why not?
I know nothing about his managerial career or acheivenemts, but it's worth a gamble, and it can't go ay more wrong than McLeish did.
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If I was on that plane I'd make sure I was just finishing a big shit as we flew over the DW stadium enroute to BHX hitting flush at just the right time to drop a big hot steaming number 2 in the Wigan centre circle, have that Whelan.
I found myself swearing uncontrolably the other day in the car after hearing Whelan on 5live saying "Martinez will go to a big club at some point, not someone like Aston Villa..."
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Do we have a H&V roving reporter that we can send to Bodymoor with a camera?
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wow sky sports ticker say rodgers has rejected the chance to speak to liverpool
You ever been for a job interview and realised afterwards they were never interested in hiring you? That's a shit feeling. I wouldn't willingly go through it.
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Liverpool handle this like they handle most things, reckless.
"We'd like to speak to Wigan, Swansea and Norwich - and some others - about maybe hiring their manager."
Only one of them is getting the job. The rest are left at a club full of fans, players and owners that know they wanted out.
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Acoording to molde news plane has now left with one extra passenger and ole hasnt turned up for training - welcome to the west midlands ole!
Bham airport straight to Bodymoor , he will love it and we dont have to drive him through small Heath or Alum rock with a bag on his head .
That sir...is hilarious.
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Did Liverpool say that?
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Acoording to molde news plane has now left with one extra passenger and ole hasnt turned up for training - welcome to the west midlands ole!
Bham airport straight to Bodymoor , he will love it and we dont have to drive him through small Heath or Alum rock with a bag on his head .
That sir...is hilarious.
indeed i almost wet myself
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Come on Ole come to Villa and start to build a philosophy at the club.
For some reason I read that sentence to the tune of 'Come on Eileen'...
'Come on Ole'
'Come to Villa and Start'
'To build a philos-oph-yy'
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Did Liverpool say that?
They said martinez was one of several they wished to speak to, rodgers announnced this morning hes turned down talks with them after an approach.
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I'd love to tase that bloke on SSN every time he says "errr", which is every other fucking word.
"Skysports err news understands that errr Aston err Villa errrr want to speak errr to Ole errr Gunnar errr Solskjaer errr... about replacing... err Alex errr Mc errrr Leish.".
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They're got permission to speak to Martinez, they've asked for it with Rodgers. Many believe Lambert was on the list too. There's also unemployed managers they're interested in. AVB and Rafa are two names heavily mentioned.
They said they'll speak to numerous targets. Rodgers is smart enough to stay away from it.
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Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews
Sky Sources: Liverpool plan to speak to as many as 12 candidates to replace Kenny Dalglish. #SSN
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
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Does this remind anyone else of January 2011?
Liverpool, Chelsea and Villa all spent big on strikers. The media spunked themselves over the other two's dealings and virtually ignored Villa, who did their business with a minimum of fuss.
And who got the best result then??
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
I agree Damon, since Liverpool sacked KKK you would think they are the only team without a Manager. Nothing about Villa all about who the Redscouse might employ.
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I was undecided and voted Usikker.
But now I've researched and looked into his background I want to change my vote to yes.
Here he is with missus. I dunno...Scandinavians eh?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PVYUv2g8EIM/TyKi5SqbhCI/AAAAAAAACMY/9h33FbUq6SE/s1600/ole%2B1.jpg)
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Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews
Sky Sources: Liverpool plan to speak to as many as 12 candidates to replace Kenny Dalglish. #SSN
12 candidates. Are they after a jury? Might make the fans feel more at home.
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Just seen on the SSN website that apparently we're in for Gollum.
He can fuck right off. Why would he want to manage "a half-arsed club that used to be famous"?
Far too precious for my liking
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I wouldn't say now is the time to take such a risk.Winning Scottish football titles was derided last year when AM came-OGS has so far won 1 title in Norway.
I'd be right behind him, but after the last 2 years I'd prefer Lambert
And Lambert has won???
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wow sky sports ticker say rodgers has rejected the chance to speak to liverpool
You ever been for a job interview and realised afterwards they were never interested in hiring you? That's a shit feeling. I wouldn't willingly go through it.
Yes, and so has my missus. In both cases we found out afterwards that the jobs were already gone and that they were just going through the motions. One of the bastards in my interview kept repeating the same impossible to answer question over and over again, it was at this point I realised the job was already gone. It went to a brother-in-law of one of the interviewing panel! And they said nepotism didn't exist, my arse.
In the case of Mrs S they shitbags had her fly over from Brum to attend an interview (we were thinking of moving to Ireland at that time) and they had the audacity to actually tell her at the interview that the job was gone but they would place her on a panel as a possible; (I can only describe it as a substitue) replacement. As you say Damon, a shit feeling.
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Does this remind anyone else of January 2011?
Liverpool, Chelsea and Villa all spent big on strikers. The media spunked themselves over the other two's dealings and virtually ignored Villa, who did their business with a minimum of fuss.
And who got the best result then??
Haha, nice thought John!
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For a club that likes to think of itself as having class, Liverpool certainly lack it.
Keep your business private and get on with it.
Of course, once you get involved with a FUCKING GOBSHITE OLD MONKEY SCROTE like Dave Whelan it becomes hard but still, fans of other clubs dont want to know you're screening their managers for a possible position, making life difficult for them if they dont get it. You're not that important anymore, get over it.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/7763321/Villa-make-Solskjær-contact
My preciousssssssss....
(http://img.skysports.com/12/05/660x350/Ole-Gunner-Solskjaer_2766740.jpg)
Bloody hell, OGS is turning into Kenneth Williams
(http://www.pintersociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blogKennethWilliams400.jpg)
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Why not?
I know nothing about his managerial career or acheivenemts, but it's worth a gamble, and it can't go ay more wrong than McLeish did.
Relegation?
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Apparently Solskjaer has flown over today with his wife to talk about the job. It will happen if the family are happy. The more and more i think about him being the boss the more and more im getting excited. I just hope that the amount of enthusiasm we are showing now continues even if he hits a rough patch.
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
I agree Damon, since Liverpool sacked KKK you would think they are the only team without a Manager. Nothing about Villa all about who the Redscouse might employ.
Two work colleagues - both grown men, both keen football supporters, both expressed astonishment at the notion that Villa came second in the league and reached a cup final `in the modern era'.
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
I agree Damon, since Liverpool sacked KKK you would think they are the only team without a Manager. Nothing about Villa all about who the Redscouse might employ.
Having said that, we were just mentioned in passing on BBC Sports news. Albion aren't even being mentioned anywhere
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/7763321/Villa-make-Solskjær-contact
My preciousssssssss....
(http://img.skysports.com/12/05/660x350/Ole-Gunner-Solskjaer_2766740.jpg)
Bloody hell, OGS is turning into Kenneth Williams
(http://www.pintersociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blogKennethWilliams400.jpg)
What? Do you have cataracts?
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
I agree Damon, since Liverpool sacked KKK you would think they are the only team without a Manager. Nothing about Villa all about who the Redscouse might employ.
Having said that, we were just mentioned in passing on BBC Sports news. Albion aren't even being mentioned anywhere
Who are Albion??
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If I was on that plane I'd make sure I was just finishing a big shit as we flew over the DW stadium enroute to BHX hitting flush at just the right time to drop a big hot steaming number 2 in the Wigan centre circle, have that Whelan.
I'd have spent the previous fortnight eating a diet of pickled eggs and Guinness and would crap spray the whole ground.
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http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/18/3110877/breaking-news-aston-villa-talks-with-Solskjær-confirmed-by (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896/premier-league/2012/05/18/3110877/breaking-news-aston-villa-talks-with-Solskjær-confirmed-by)
BREAKING NEWS: Aston Villa talks with Solskjær confirmed by Molde
The former Manchester United striker is one of the names in the running to replace Alex McLeish at the helm of the underachieving Birmingham-based outfit
18 May 2012 10:25:00
Molde boss and former Manchester United player Ole Gunnar Solskjær is to jet into Birmingham to meet with Aston Villa owner Randy Lerner over the prospect of taking over the club's vacant managerial position.
The 39 year-old is believed to have been flown over in Lerner's own private plane to meet this morning and he is now the frontrunner to succeed Alex McLeish as boss.
The Norwegian club released a statement via the club's official website: "Molde Football Club is aware of interest and contact from Aston Villa, and is aware that Aston Villa and Ole Gunnar Solskjær are talking together."
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Have just read this:
It is claimed Molde have confirmed Villas interest in Solskjaer, who is reportedly not at Moldes training ground today despite an away game at Sandnes Ulf on Sunday.
Former Middlesbrough, Sheffield United and Barnsley striker Jan Aage Fjortoft, now a television presenter, tweeted: Molde confirms Aston Villa interest for Solskjær. Ready to negotiate.
Fjortoft has also confirmed Lerners jet departed Kristiansund today, adding: Employees at the airport saying Ole Gunnar AND his wife were on board. Seems like Elvis has left the building.
'OGS and his wife' - if that's true then things are at an advanced stage, I would say.
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Have just read this:
It is claimed Molde have confirmed Villa’s interest in Solskjær, who is reportedly not at Molde’s training ground today despite an away game at Sandnes Ulf on Sunday.
Former Middlesbrough, Sheffield United and Barnsley striker Jan Aage Fjortoft, now a television presenter, tweeted: “Molde confirms Aston Villa interest for Solskjær. Ready to negotiate.”
Fjortoft has also confirmed Lerner’s jet departed Kristiansund today, adding: “Employees at the airport saying Ole Gunnar AND his wife were on board. Seems like Elvis has left the building.”
'OGS and his wife' - if that's true then things are at an advanced stage, I would say.
They could be looking for someone to pour the tea.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
I agree Damon, since Liverpool sacked KKK you would think they are the only team without a Manager. Nothing about Villa all about who the Redscouse might employ.
Having said that, we were just mentioned in passing on BBC Sports news. Albion aren't even being mentioned anywhere
Who are Albion??
He means `shitbion' (my new favourite word)
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Don't know why but the more this may become a reality the more I like it.
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Have just read this:
It is claimed Molde have confirmed Villas interest in Solskjær, who is reportedly not at Moldes training ground today despite an away game at Sandnes Ulf on Sunday.
Former Middlesbrough, Sheffield United and Barnsley striker Jan Aage Fjortoft, now a television presenter, tweeted: Molde confirms Aston Villa interest for Solskjær. Ready to negotiate.
Fjortoft has also confirmed Lerners jet departed Kristiansund today, adding: Employees at the airport saying Ole Gunnar AND his wife were on board. Seems like Elvis has left the building.
'OGS and his wife' - if that's true then things are at an advanced stage, I would say.
They could be looking for someone to pour the tea.
That's very sexist of the Right Honourable Gentleman, it's 2012 not the 70's. She'll be shoe shopping.
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Villa are doing all they can to get him. Sending a private jet over to pick him up and bring him to an interview, that's rather classy actually.
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I swear non-Villa fans know fuck all about our club. Maybe it's just because they don't pay attention, because we're not interesting enough.
I agree Damon, since Liverpool sacked KKK you would think they are the only team without a Manager. Nothing about Villa all about who the Redscouse might employ.
Having said that, we were just mentioned in passing on BBC Sports news. Albion aren't even being mentioned anywhere
Who are Albion??
He means `shitbion' (my new favourite word)
Oh them!! "The best team in the Midlands" according to them. Never mind normal service will be resumed next year.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
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Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews
Sky Sources: Liverpool plan to speak to as many as 12 candidates to replace Kenny Dalglish. #SSN
12 candidates. Are they after a jury? Might make the fans feel more at home.
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6694/12angrymen.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/12angrymen.jpg/)
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wow sky sports ticker say rodgers has rejected the chance to speak to liverpool
see people its not as cut and dried as it may seem to pull a manager from a small club, us with wigan last season, liverpool with swansea this
I'm not too surprised by this. Liverpool could prove to be as big a madhouse as Villa over the coming seasons and any wise, sensible young manager would do well to think things through before blindly accepting such a challenge. The thing is with Liverpool, Henry is worth less than Randy, I'm not sure how they are going to fund the huge rebuilding job they require.
As I've said before, they remind me of us, they've gone all out for top four and if they don't achieve it soon enough they will have to start cutting back sharpish. They're possibly where we were at twelve to twenty-four months ago. The thing about Liverpool's Yanks is that, like Randy, there seems to be no firm philosophy underpinning their plans. Cost-cutting plus this lurching from one manager to another will create instability and a fall down the table. Here's hoping any way. (My big fear is that they will eventually sell up to the oil men should it all go tits up.)
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Just in case you didn't know, Dave Whelan thinks Roberto Martinez is nailed on for a top, top job at some point. Dave Whelan can confirm that Liverpool have contacted him about Roberto Martinez. Dave Whelan can confirm that Villa contacted him last year about Martinez. Dave Whelan can confirm that he didn't think last year was the right time for Roberto Martinez. Dave Whelan believes Villa are a big club. Dave Whelan believes Liverpool are a big big club. Dave Whelan can confirm that Villa have not contacted him about Roberto Martinez so far this time around. Dave Whelan guarantees that if Villa do contact him as soon as the phone call ends he will call SKY Sports News (speed dial) and officially inform the world personally.
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Well its on Moldes OS that he is having a chat with us (thanks google translate!)Molde OS (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=http://www.moldefk.no/&ei=_Rq2T-rVC4uIhQef1OD6CA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CGIQ7gEwAg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmolde%2Bfk%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1C1SVEE_enGB475GB475%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D641%26prmd%3Dimvns).
I am actually really happy, this and the fact that Alan Partridge is coming back onto our screens has made my Friday!
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The thing is this is a brilliant opportunity for him, we're a big club that is pretty much on its knees. If he can rebuild the club and get us back in a good position his stock will be massively high.
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I can honestly say I have no idea if this is a good choice or not.
Even lambert's a bit of a gamble, after just one season in the prem.
I didn't realise he's 39.
I just had the image of a lad with choirboy looks telling Collins and Dunne to pull their fingers out. Only for them to give him a wedgey and tell him feck off. They have gotta respect him after what he's achieved in the game ( I hope).
The only manager who had a problem with Dunne was Houllier.Erikkson,Royle,Keegan,McCarthy and big Feck all spoke highly of him. Houllier is an odious turd I reckon even Cliff Richard would want to give him a dry one.
Maybe Houllier was the only one in that list that expected Dunne to adopt a professional approach what he is paid (vast sums) to do.
I think there would be a fair chance that there would be a similar clash with Solksjaer if his (OLS') reputation is anything to go by.
It's one of the reasons I feel optimistic about his possible appointment, there is a whole raft of non-winners in the squad that need to be shown the door.
The good news for whomever gets the job is that said list is a lot shorter than is was two years ago.
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Villa are doing all they can to get him. Sending a private jet over to pick him up and bring him to an interview, that's rather classy actually.
Blues would've sent him 50p in the post to go towards a ryanair flight.
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Yeah fair play to our board it doesn't look like we could do much more.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
This is going to sound harsh and I don't want it to be BUT if he is serious about his career in management then he must overcome this. If he wants to be a top manager he cannot stay in Norway for 5 years until his kids grow up. Plus he owns a house in Cheshire.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Said on recent documentary he would love to manage in the premier league- cant see him turning this chance down and his kids love england ,add in his wife supporting villa and i think we have our man!
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Instead of working I have watched the mini documentary about him from Manutv on youtube. Having watched it I think the guy could be a great fit for us. Thats if he wants to come to us.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
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His wife supports Villa? :| What?
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11677/7763321/Villa-make-Solskjær-contact
My preciousssssssss....
(http://img.skysports.com/12/05/660x350/Ole-Gunner-Solskjaer_2766740.jpg)
Bloody hell, OGS is turning into Kenneth Williams
(http://www.pintersociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/blogKennethWilliams400.jpg)
What? Do you have cataracts?
He'll be all right here then seems Richard Dunne is turning into Hatty Jacques.
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His wife supports Villa? :| What?
It's true.
She's a woman of great taste.
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If Mrs OGS is a Villa fan it's nailed on surely? I don't know why but thus appointment just feels so right. Fingers crossed it happens today
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Said on recent documentary he would love to manage in the premier league- cant see him turning this chance down and his kids love england ,add in his wife supporting villa and i think we have our man!
Hopefully his wife will be willing to help convince the kids they'd have a swell time in England. Hell, those kids probably speak better English than we do already!
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how do we know his wife supports Villa ?
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Can see Faulkner as Sid James too in a few years! ;D
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When my wife's gran was still with us, and sitting in a Norwegian nursing home slowly losing her marbles, I got the kids to make her a poster with Panini stickers.
We collected all the Norwegian players and stuck them in a Christmas tree formation on a sheet of A4. Ole was at the top, as I recall.
She put it up on the wall of her room, it made her very happy.
Norwegians have a very quiet but very fierce pride in their country and will never be convinced that there is anywhere better in the world. But if you show a little respect to this sentiment, they will love you forever.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
Rollmops or a Balti?
I know which one I prefer.
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His wife supports Villa? :| What?
It's true.
She's a woman of great taste.
So the press' go to is his family not want to come here, even though his wife is a Villa fan and his kids loved England when he was at United?
Smooth.
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I don't know really. It seems like a hell of a risk when looking at his career so far, but then the other managers we're looking at aren't what I would call anything special.
For me, the safe bet, but one that would still excite and galvanise us, is Paul Lambert. Taken Norwich from the third division to the first and kept them up this year. Perhaps I'm more conservative about my football than I realised, but I feel very uneasy about such a left-field appointment as Solksjaer.
Same here. After looking relegation in the face we now want to risk everything on a manager that has almost no experience. One thing is the board demanding "Premier League management experience" but you'd expect them to find somebody that has "management experience".
It might go very well but I won't be surprised if it all ends in tears. It appears most want change for the sake of change. I'd have thought a steady pair of hands that can stear us in the right direction, getting us playing some decent football and build something would be top of our agenda.
Still, Like Alex McLeish, he's most certainly a nice chap. Good luck to him. He's going to need it.
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His missus is a Villa fan??? since when....
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Excited by it...
But which is a bigger CV job in this now global world....
Rebuilding villa so they get in and around 6th place, maybe have the odd season where we fight for 5th...
Or stay in norwegian league where he has won the league and will get champions league...
I am not comparing the clubs as villa is far bigger... but he will be in champions league with Molde...
Just a niggling feeling I have!
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Sky Sports News @SkySportsNews
Sky Sources: Liverpool plan to speak to as many as 12 candidates to replace Kenny Dalglish. #SSN
12 candidates. Are they after a jury? Might make the fans feel more at home.
(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6694/12angrymen.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/12angrymen.jpg/)
Classic film. One of the very best.
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We've tried the 'steady pair of hands' though and look where that got us! Let's just bloody well go for it for once! If this comes off the board should be roundly applauded for it IMHO. Yes, it's a risk, but what appointment wouldn't be?
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Front page of NRK's website:
Solskjaer on his way to Birmingham
It's Randy's jet which left Kristiansund airport today at 9:30 London time. He arrived yesterday evening.
NRK seem sure he's our next manager.
(http://gfx.nrk.no/Jtsu8LmcE7Gjy34omTOlPg3URjxK1f9WbAQp1-dr-ylQ.jpg)
Image: NRK/NTB Scanpix
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His wife supports Villa? :| What?
It's true.
She's a woman of great taste.
So the press' go to is his family not want to come here, even though his wife is a Villa fan and his kids loved England when he was at United?
Smooth.
As ole said himself his kids still think of manchester as home , im sure he and randy will be tucking into faggot and peas as we speak, i see nothing to stop him tsking the job and expect a swift conclusion- hopefully today as im at work the next 5 days.
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Dave - from watching the documentary posted on the 'Who do you want as Manager' thread ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m6ebW1vJAlY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=m6ebW1vJAlY)
I get the impression that it was Ole who wanted his kids to taste what it was like to grow up in Molde. Well they've had that taste now - and they keep asking when they are going home?
In the same documentary - although it is a ManU love in - there are glimpses of match play - and his philosophy seems to be built on short fast passing movements - one touch football - with players keeping the ball and moving it constantly - not unlike Brendan R.
These two articles are also worth a read for anyone who wants more information before making a decision (though not posting a comment - obviously - H&V would be empty otherwise :))
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8897844/Jim-White-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjær-reveals-why-Manchester-United-hot-seat-is-his-burning-ambition.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8897844/Jim-White-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjær-reveals-why-Manchester-United-hot-seat-is-his-burning-ambition.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8861306/Henry-Winter-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjær-makes-mark-as-a-manager-with-title-win-in-first-season-at-Molde.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/8861306/Henry-Winter-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjær-makes-mark-as-a-manager-with-title-win-in-first-season-at-Molde.html)
He has worked as a youth and reserve team coach - a winner in both - which will be a good fit with Sid and KMac and TonyMcA - and now he has managed his eternally underachieving home town team to win their top league. Now some say this is nothing - the league is Mickey Mouse - but if we believe that argument - then the only candidates we should be looking for are managers who have won the premier league - so what price Sir Alex - Arsene - or Jose? And if it is such a mickey mouse league - why did Rosenborg - perenial winners of it - qualify for the group stages of the Champions league 11 times out of 13? How did they beat such teams as Real Madrid? Let's not get cocky here - it's proving hard enough to attract talent given the last couple of seasons antics - so let's start showing some respect.
OGS has been a winner at all levels of the game - and he has a philosophy about how football should be played.
The only real question now is would he want to swap this view...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/74/MoldePana.jpg/726px-MoldePana.jpg)
for this one...
(http://harrylangford.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/aston-express-way.jpg)
OGS or BR for me.
UTV
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Excited by it...
But which is a bigger CV job in this now global world....
Rebuilding villa so they get in and around 6th place, maybe have the odd season where we fight for 5th...
Or stay in norwegian league where he has won the league and will get champions league...
I am not comparing the clubs as villa is far bigger... but he will be in champions league with Molde...
Just a niggling feeling I have!
if he comes here and does well for four years, he'll be a candidate for the United job. that's his dream.
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I said it once but I'll say it again. There virtually no such thing as a risk-free managerial appointment these days.
If it was Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez there would still be *some* doubt that it was the correct appointment.
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I said it once but I'll say it again. There virtually no such thing as a risk-free managerial appointment these days.
If it was Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez there would still be *some* doubt that it was the correct appointment.
But LESS risk with managers from the premiership surely?
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Wouldnt worry about molde and the champions league- they have 2 qualifying rounds just to get to the group stage and unlikely to get that far.
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Maybe it's the 40+ years of being a cynical Villa fan that makes me feels cautious about this prospect.
Who at Villa identified OGS? anyone know? Most people on here have been slating the club for not having any "football" men on the board. What has changed since the same board picked McShit last year?
I'm trying to convince myself that this would be a masterstroke but I always end up thinking that Wolves have got a better, more proven Norwegian manager than OGS.
I really hope I'm totally wrong
Valid point about continued lack of knowledge at VP Board level, and I still suspect they are using SAF as a consultatnt, despite his disastrous previous recommendation. I'm not Sure about the Wolves boss being more "proven" . He was successful in a minor league, gained some Champs League experience, but on moving to one of the big leagues, he got Koln to the verge of relegation before being relieved of his duties. Sounds about as "proven" as McLeish.
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Just in case you didn't know, Dave Whelan thinks Roberto Martinez is nailed on for a top, top job at some point. Dave Whelan can confirm that Liverpool have contacted him about Roberto Martinez. Dave Whelan can confirm that Villa contacted him last year about Martinez. Dave Whelan can confirm that he didn't think last year was the right time for Roberto Martinez. Dave Whelan believes Villa are a big club. Dave Whelan believes Liverpool are a big big club. Dave Whelan can confirm that Villa have not contacted him about Roberto Martinez so far this time around. Dave Whelan guarantees that if Villa do contact him as soon as the phone call ends he will call SKY Sports News (speed dial) and officially inform the world personally.
Dave Whelan is a prick
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I said it once but I'll say it again. There virtually no such thing as a risk-free managerial appointment these days.
If it was Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez there would still be *some* doubt that it was the correct appointment.
But LESS risk with managers from the premiership surely?
I'm not sure thats the case. One thing OGS has in his favour is the people will think he's done it in Norway, but can he do it in England.
In short, he has something to prove.
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Ok he wants the united job- if he does a great job here then he may get his wish, i would take 4 years of success under ole even it meant he moved on eventually , i believe we are in for some much needed fun and enjoyment under his reign.
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I said it once but I'll say it again. There virtually no such thing as a risk-free managerial appointment these days.
If it was Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez there would still be *some* doubt that it was the correct appointment.
But LESS risk with managers from the premiership surely?
I'm not sure thats the case. One thing OGS has in his favour is the people will think he's done it in Norway, but can he do it in England.
In short, he has something to prove.
It's not as if he doesn't know what the Premiership is all about is it?
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
Rollmops or a Balti?
I know which one I prefer.
plus no daylight in the winter must get you down :-\
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Just in case you didn't know, Dave Whelan thinks Roberto Martinez is nailed on for a top, top job at some point. Dave Whelan can confirm that Liverpool have contacted him about Roberto Martinez. Dave Whelan can confirm that Villa contacted him last year about Martinez. Dave Whelan can confirm that he didn't think last year was the right time for Roberto Martinez. Dave Whelan believes Villa are a big club. Dave Whelan believes Liverpool are a big big club. Dave Whelan can confirm that Villa have not contacted him about Roberto Martinez so far this time around. Dave Whelan guarantees that if Villa do contact him as soon as the phone call ends he will call SKY Sports News (speed dial) and officially inform the world personally.
Dave Whelan is a prick
a red faced one
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I'm not adverse to the idea. He would hopefully be able to identify some good Norse talent. Fans would have to be patient with him though.
The ultimate kiss of death though would be Fergie giving the move his backing.
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Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham
At Birmingham Airport.. Randy's plane delayed slightly on landing after a bird strike to a previous aircraft. #AVFC
Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham
A silver vehicle flanked by blacked out vans will drive to meet the plane. Whether I get to see Ole Gunnar remains to be seen. #AVFC
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The only problem I have is that we had enough posters on here unable to spell McLeish. Ole Gunnar Solskjær could be an issue.
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Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham
At Birmingham Airport.. Randy's plane delayed slightly on landing after a bird strike to a previous aircraft. #AVFC
Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham
A silver vehicle flanked by blacked out vans will drive to meet the plane. Whether I get to see Ole Gunnar remains to be seen. #AVFC
No need for such secrecy now randy - we all know!
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The only problem I have is that we had enough posters on here unable to spell McLeish. Ole Gunnar Solskjær could be an issue.
Its OGS!
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
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I wonder if Randy's motive is to get a manager who wouldn't look out of place in student night at Gatecrasher, thereby keep an eye on his first team squad when they're out rucking with the door staff? Shrewd.
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Can't explain why exactly, but I'm quite excited by Solskjaer & really hope it goes through.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
(http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T00_Imag/00.1.7/Bodymoor3.jpg)
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Apologies, I have not read the prev 28 pages but I just saw this on Gary Nevilles Twitter. To paraphrase:
Q (to GNev2): Any advice for anyone about to start their coaching badges?
A: Yeah, sit next to someone intelligent
Q: So, who did you sit next to?
A: Ole Gunnar. A perfect example.
From what I have read - cannot remember where - Sir Alex thinks that Ole has the best football brain of any of the players he has managed. Hes been studying the game pretty much all his playing career.
I think he could be a great appointment but it is a huge gamble. My preference would be for a DoF to be appointed to help him. Someone streetwise. If not a DoF then a very experienced assistant.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
(http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T00_Imag/00.1.7/Bodymoor3.jpg)
That's the pub I visit most often. The only down side is the gaffer, he's a miserable git.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
(http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T00_Imag/00.1.7/Bodymoor3.jpg)
That's the pub I visit most often. The only down side is the gaffer, he's a miserable git.
Memories - Haven't been there for years.
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anyone fancy hangerland instead of collins next season? that would be a massive step in the right direction in breaking up the chuckle brothers in defence
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
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Looks like Randys plane has landed in BHX now
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Timothy Abraham @TimothyAbraham
At Birmingham Airport.. Randy's plane delayed slightly on landing after a bird strike to a previous aircraft. #AVFC
There's a bird strike?
Bollocks. That's my night at Legs Eleven down the pan then.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
(http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T00_Imag/00.1.7/Bodymoor3.jpg)
That's the pub I visit most often. The only down side is the gaffer, he's a miserable git.
Memories - Haven't been there for years.
Roll on the hot summer days.
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Someone needs to send the results of this poll to OGS
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I think he could be a great appointment but it is a huge gamble.
Our last two appointments were huge gambles but not great appointments, so he has that advantage over them.
It would have to be a long term project, not an AVB immediate success requirement that ultimately backfires. He will still be learning within the job so fans will have to give him a chance.
I just hope RL & PF do a better job of selling the club to him than they did with Martinez last year.
It may also be a certain Manchester club will be keeping an eye on his appointment with us for a future job there.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
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It's a gamble but it's sport, not a beach landing. Have fun with it.
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From what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
(http://www.tuesdaynightclub.co.uk/T00_Imag/00.1.7/Bodymoor3.jpg)
That brings back fond memories of summer evenings some thirty years ago. An ex g/f was even a barmaid there for a short period.
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
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TFrom what I can gather the only possible stumbling block is his family being settled in Norway. I believe the job's his if he wants it.
Well let's hope he wants it.
we have plenty of lovely countryside just replace fjords with canals :-[
That brings back fond memories of summer evenings some thirty years ago. An ex g/f was even a barmaid there for a short period.
Let me guess, when she left, you dumped her?
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SKY SPORTS NEWS confirms it....
(http://img.skysports.com/12/05/660x350/Ole-Gunner-Solskjaer_2766740.jpg)
He'll soon have our unruly kids in order with his... "Stop mucking about..." and "Ooh - I say".
The spirit of Kenneth is strong in this one.
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I think he could be a great appointment but it is a huge gamble.
Our last two appointments were huge gambles but not great appointments, so he has that advantage over them.
It would have to be a long term project, not an AVB immediate success requirement that ultimately backfires. He will still be learning within the job so fans will have to give him a chance.
I just hope RL & PF do a better job of selling the club to him than they did with Martinez last year.
It may also be a certain Manchester club will be keeping an eye on his appointment with us for a future job there.
They never even spoke to martinez as he turned down the opportunity to have talks .
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It will definetly be a very risky appointment but a risk im sure alot of us fans dont mind taking he seems to have alot of potential,its worth a try,id prefer him to Martinez who has nearly relegated his team last 2 years.
Plus i have £4 on OGS at 25/1 so I hope it is now lol
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Haven't read the above 28 pages, so apologies if this is repetitious.
Yes from me; my only reservation is his connection with the MU lot (but that may have its advantages in terms of new recruits).
I wonder who would be on his coaching staff.
It'll probably mean that the appointment (were it to take place) has realistically probably only got a maximum of three years' life but - hey - if that means we will be competing for real honours at that time, why not?! certainly an appointment to raise our profile again.
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
I tend to agree.
I don't think we should get carried away. We've been here before.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
We have hired Carla Connor off Coronation Street to follow him, befriend him and become drinking buddies, then when he collapses in a drunken stupor to kill him.
(http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQAY0sokzhEP0Lm3&w=180&h=540&url=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F6%2F6b%2FDave_Whelan%252C_Wigan_Athletic_vs_Hull_City%252C_3rd_May_2010.jpg%2F720px-Dave_Whelan%252C_Wigan_Athletic_vs_Hull_City%252C_3rd_May_2010.jpg&fallback=hub_person&prefix=d)
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
You're totally right Chico, I know nothing about his Management career, but I'm thinking "why the hell not", it's totally left field and unexpected, so therefore quite exciting.
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Almost every possible appointment would be a gamble for different reasons and I love the fact that this has come left field and is so unexpected
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Monday was the quietest Villa Park has ever been for a managerial leaving. You can guarantee that if we get OGS the world's media will be at the press conference.
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Monday was the quietest Villa Park has ever been for a managerial leaving. You can guarantee that if we get OGS the world's media will be at the press conference.
Including yourself, Dave?
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
But I think that's what most Villa fans were hoping for, someone from leftfield who can offer something new.
Mourinho and AVB both came from very similar backgrounds, one succeeded one failed, that's the chance you take.
Everyone knew McLeish's game inside out, and that worked out well.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
You're totally right Chico, I know nothing about his Management career, but I'm thinking "why the hell not", it's totally left field and unexpected, so therefore quite exciting.
Sorry to wheel out this hoary old chestnut but rather like Wenger at Monaco then when he came to Arsenal...or was it Grampus 8, my memory fails me!
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I had reservations about this initially but today I'm getting really enthused about it. Randy tried throwing money at it via MON and it failed. He tried a change of football approach through Houllier and that failed (largely through ill health). He tried a steady pair of hands and that was a disaster. Now it looks like he's going for building something more steadiliy through a young exciting manager, hopefully playing entertaining football. Bring it on
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Monday was the quietest Villa Park has ever been for a managerial leaving. You can guarantee that if we get OGS the world's media will be at the press conference.
Providing Liverpool do not announce their new manager on the same day.
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A risk yes, but I am fed up of looking around at other clubs, prepared to take a chance, and thinking why couldn't we do that.
It's a risk I am happy to take and really want this to happen.
I will happily take steady progress over the next couple of years while he hopefully builds something.
I can already feel the pride coming back and looking forward to us all coming back together again for the sake of our club.
Next season, the alocohol intake prior to the match will hopefully be an atmosphere enhancer rather than something to help me forget! :)
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Monday was the quietest Villa Park has ever been for a managerial leaving. You can guarantee that if we get OGS the world's media will be at the press conference.
Hoping youll be doing your bit on midlands today rather than that bloody clueless joan hunter woman.
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I think he could be a great appointment but it is a huge gamble.
Our last two appointments were huge gambles but not great appointments, so he has that advantage over them.
It would have to be a long term project, not an AVB immediate success requirement that ultimately backfires. He will still be learning within the job so fans will have to give him a chance.
I just hope RL & PF do a better job of selling the club to him than they did with Martinez last year.
It may also be a certain Manchester club will be keeping an eye on his appointment with us for a future job there.
They never even spoke to martinez as he turned down the opportunity to have talks .
Well I'd assume, as with any interview, there would of been prior contact and some form of portfolio sent on the club and it's requirements for the role etc. If this didn't happen then that confirms that the club didn't do it's job properly.
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I think it's a done deal. He's had all week to 'think' about it and decide if he wants the job. And thats only the official line. I'm sure he would have been aware of this before Tuesday!
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I think he could be a great appointment but it is a huge gamble.
Our last two appointments were huge gambles but not great appointments, so he has that advantage over them.
It would have to be a long term project, not an AVB immediate success requirement that ultimately backfires. He will still be learning within the job so fans will have to give him a chance.
I just hope RL & PF do a better job of selling the club to him than they did with Martinez last year.
It may also be a certain Manchester club will be keeping an eye on his appointment with us for a future job there.
They never even spoke to martinez as he turned down the opportunity to have talks .
Well I'd assume, as with any interview, there would of been prior contact and some form of portfolio sent on the club and it's requirements for the role etc. If this didn't happen then that confirms that the club didn't do it's job properly.
we know they didnt do there job properly, they were new to the whole proces, and Whelan played them like a fiddle,
its the way you learn, i dont think they will make the same mistake again
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
I think it's his lack of respect for us, thinking we're too small time for his Manager. He was the same last summer over the N'Zogbia transfer - as I said earlier...he's a prick. Faulkner is useless with the media and these cheap shots should be countered - what use is the General these days? for a board member, his involvement appears to be zero. When was the last time he attended a match at Villa Park?
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Getting on the plane, presumably spending the aftenoon wandering around Bodymoor and letting Randy shmooz him for a couple of days is what a salesman might call a huge buying signal.
Time to close the deal.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
I think it's his lack of respect for us, thinking we're too small time for his Manager. He was the same last summer over the N'Zogbia transfer - as I said earlier...he's a prick. Faulkner is useless with the media and these cheap shots should be countered - what use is the General these days? for a board member, his involvement appears to be zero. When was the last time he attended a match at Villa Park?
we are better off without krulak.
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Having watched that YouTube clip and listened to his footballing philosophies, I think it's fair to say he won't be persevering with muppets like Hutton, Warnock Collins etc. bring it on.
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No problem with whelan- a wily old fox protecting his interests! Fair play he did say this week aston villa is a very big job and hatred is far strong a feeling to have against him.
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
We would probably struggle to get a proven premiership manager, so everything is a gamble. We are going nowhere at the moment, bloody exciting trip or a catastrophe waiting to happen but worth taking the risk. We new Mcleish was shit, can't tell what solskjaer will be like so is worth a punt. Chelsea had AVB was that a bad choice, he certainly is not a bad manager, who really knows how it will work out. But if we keep doing the same thing expect the same results.
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@Villafirst The general is no longer at AVFC. He has gone back to the US to the south Birmingham college of Alabama or something along those lines
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I haven't read the whole thread so I'm sure this had been said before, I am properly excited about this. A young manager who's played for years under the best in the business. This will be good, given time.
I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
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Getting on the plane, presumably spending the aftenoon wandering around Bodymoor and letting Randy shmooz him for a couple of days is what a salesman might call a huge buying signal.
Time to close the deal.
They'll be in the Dog and Doublet for lunch then.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
I think it's his lack of respect for us, thinking we're too small time for his Manager. He was the same last summer over the N'Zogbia transfer - as I said earlier...he's a prick. Faulkner is useless with the media and these cheap shots should be countered - what use is the General these days? for a board member, his involvement appears to be zero. When was the last time he attended a match at Villa Park?
we dont like him because he got the better of us,
well i have respect if someone a lot smaller fights his own corner and comes out on top,
we need to man up and accept that some people wont cow tow to the bigger boy in the playground and scrap ike a wild dog.
he's on sky sports every 10 minuets, probably causing no end of problems to Liverpool and even Martinez, then he probably goes home puts his feet up and laughs at the lot of them, he's playing the game like a good un, and winning mostly
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This is the man Randy wants. The messages that we are getting saying that there are more on the shortlist is just simply the club attempting to manage (our) expectations should it all go tits up.
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I've said yes... purely because I've been saying for a while now I'd like us to go for someone fresh, young, a promising coach who can really bring something a bit different to the club, so I can't complain if we do exactly that. I can't say I'm 100% confident in him, because he'd be totally new to coaching at this level - that said, he does know the Premier League, obviously.
I know little about him as a coach in terms of his ethos, his methods, the style of play his teams have adopted. All I know is his CV, which was reserve team manager at Man United, and that he took Molde to their first league title in over 100 years; I believe, very early on in his coaching career, he was approached to become Norway national coach.
So, if it is OGS (and he could just be one of several we are interviewing), it's at least a vibrant, exciting appointment.
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Whelan is a sickly old bell end and the only reason he isn't put in his place in the meda is because he's irrelevant.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
Who gives a crap about Whelan. Wigan are odds on to get relegated next year and we won't see them/him for a long while. The question then will be whether it was Martinez leaving or the 3 or 4 of their better players leaving this summer that got them relegated (more likely the latter). If they do indeed stay up then Martinez cant have been that good after all.
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
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Whelan is a sickly old bell end and the only reason he isn't put in his place in the meda is because he's irrelevant.
Spot on again, Maz.
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Whelan is a sickly old bell end and the only reason he isn't put in his place in the meda is because he's irrelevant.
gave us the runaround though, not bad for a 'sickly old bell end'
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I think he could be a great appointment but it is a huge gamble.
Our last two appointments were huge gambles but not great appointments, so he has that advantage over them.
It would have to be a long term project, not an AVB immediate success requirement that ultimately backfires. He will still be learning within the job so fans will have to give him a chance.
I just hope RL & PF do a better job of selling the club to him than they did with Martinez last year.
It may also be a certain Manchester club will be keeping an eye on his appointment with us for a future job there.
They never even spoke to martinez as he turned down the opportunity to have talks .
Well I'd assume, as with any interview, there would of been prior contact and some form of portfolio sent on the club and it's requirements for the role etc. If this didn't happen then that confirms that the club didn't do it's job properly.
we know they didnt do there job properly, they were new to the whole proces, and Whelan played them like a fiddle,
its the way you learn, i dont think they will make the same mistake again
For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
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If it is to be OGS, then fair enough but he needs a football man on the board to help him out...a DoF needs to come in - I'm sure this would be part of the plan (hope so anyway). Frank Arnesen would be immense.
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If Solskjaer gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
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He didn't give us the run around as much as just blab to the press that we had approached Martinez.
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
I'd take Owen without question. I also hope OGS would give Gabby a boot up the arse or move him out.
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@Villafirst The general is no longer at AVFC. He has gone back to the US to the south Birmingham college of Alabama or something along those lines
http://www.bsc.edu/administration/president/index.cfm
Gen. Charles Chuck C. Krulak, retired commandant of the U.S. Marine Corps and former member of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, was introduced March 21, 2011, as the 13th president of Birmingham-Southern College.
General Krulak officially began his duties full time on June 1. He replaced Dr. Mark Schantz who served as interim president of the college during the search process.
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
I think it's his lack of respect for us, thinking we're too small time for his Manager. He was the same last summer over the N'Zogbia transfer - as I said earlier...he's a prick. Faulkner is useless with the media and these cheap shots should be countered - what use is the General these days? for a board member, his involvement appears to be zero. When was the last time he attended a match at Villa Park?
we dont like him because he got the better of us,
well i have respect if someone a lot smaller fights his own corner and comes out on top,
we need to man up and accept that some people wont cow tow to the bigger boy in the playground and scrap ike a wild dog.
he's on sky sports every 10 minuets, probably causing no end of problems to Liverpool and even Martinez, then he probably goes home puts his feet up and laughs at the lot of them, he's playing the game like a good un, and winning mostly
He's in the Holloway chip on the shoulder mould. He owns a small time club who'll never get anywhere in the Premier League and hopefully when the players out of contract and RM have gone they'll sink out of trace and end up like MK Dons! Can't stand the bloke - for the third time....he's a prick!!
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Whelan is a sickly old bell end and the only reason he isn't put in his place in the meda is because he's irrelevant.
gave us the runaround though, not bad for a 'sickly old bell end'
He's a big-mouthed, full-of-himself knob trying to sell off his manager to the highest bidder under the guise of someone that gives a shit! Can't wait to see who they get next after Roberto goes, though I don't believe he'll be going to Liverpoo somehow!
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
I think it's his lack of respect for us, thinking we're too small time for his Manager. He was the same last summer over the N'Zogbia transfer - as I said earlier...he's a prick. Faulkner is useless with the media and these cheap shots should be countered - what use is the General these days? for a board member, his involvement appears to be zero. When was the last time he attended a match at Villa Park?
we dont like him because he got the better of us,
well i have respect if someone a lot smaller fights his own corner and comes out on top,
we need to man up and accept that some people wont cow tow to the bigger boy in the playground and scrap ike a wild dog.
he's on sky sports every 10 minuets, probably causing no end of problems to Liverpool and even Martinez, then he probably goes home puts his feet up and laughs at the lot of them, he's playing the game like a good un, and winning mostly
How did he get the better of us, tell me?
He new all along that Martinez was going to stay with Wigan last season. We went through the proper channels in our approach and were told by Martinez he was staying put in the same way that Rodgers is not talking to Liverpool today.
Wheelan then spins it that Martinez took his time to make his decision to make him look good and us look bad.
And what's the point of playing a game as you say? He's the owner of a premier club and should act in a respectful and dignified manner not whoring himself to Sky at every oppertunity to spout bollocks. The attention seeking twat can fuck off and take his piss pot club with him.
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I haven't been this excited since the day we signed Bent!
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
If we get him on the right terms I'd love to see Owen at the Villa. Might teach Gabby a thing or two
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
I'd take Owen without question. I also hope OGS would give Gabby a boot up the arse or move him out.
I reckon OGS would get the most out of Gabby, put some confidence and belief back into his game that has been clearly lacking for last two seasons. He might even teach how to read the game better from the bench, having more of an impact in matches.
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
I tend to agree.
I don't think we should get carried away. We've been here before.
This might sound strange coming from me, but can't we just get carried away and enjoy it a teensy bit? If we're bottom at Christmas then I promise to revert to misery arse mode, but until then can't we just dream about what might be?
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No problem with whelan- a wily old fox protecting his interests! Fair play he did say this week aston villa is a very big job and hatred is far strong a feeling to have against him.
I agree and let's face facts he has a better record picking the right manager at the right time for Wigan than either of chariman have been in the last decade. Much better.
I hope the OSG punt works out if that is what transpires - it is not an easy job. 2 wasted years, 2 wretched appointments.
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
I tend to agree.
I don't think we should get carried away. We've been here before.
This might sound strange coming from me, but can't we just get carried away and enjoy it a teensy bit? If we're bottom at Christmas then I promise to revert to misery arse mode, but until then can't we just dream about what might be?
Too right, if we don't have hope we have nothing.
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
If we get him on the right terms I'd love to see Owen at the Villa. Might teach Gabby a thing or two
Spot on mate, have been saying this since I heard Owen was released by Man u
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One thing is for sure, even if we don't land OGS our hatred of Wheelan has been upped a notch or two.
If he's not careful he could even surpass Gold.
Help me catch up. What has he said now?
He's been like Tumnus for the past few weeks minus the helicopter.
Disrespecting our club on more than one occasion too.
the fella's just fighting his corner, playing the big clubs for twats, and in our case getting the better of us last term,
he's a wiley old git, but ultimatley harmless, dont understand the hatred towards him at all
I think it's his lack of respect for us, thinking we're too small time for his Manager. He was the same last summer over the N'Zogbia transfer - as I said earlier...he's a prick. Faulkner is useless with the media and these cheap shots should be countered - what use is the General these days? for a board member, his involvement appears to be zero. When was the last time he attended a match at Villa Park?
we dont like him because he got the better of us,
well i have respect if someone a lot smaller fights his own corner and comes out on top,
we need to man up and accept that some people wont cow tow to the bigger boy in the playground and scrap ike a wild dog.
he's on sky sports every 10 minuets, probably causing no end of problems to Liverpool and even Martinez, then he probably goes home puts his feet up and laughs at the lot of them, he's playing the game like a good un, and winning mostly
How did he get the better of us, tell me?
He new all along that Martinez was going to stay with Wigan last season. We went through the proper channels in our approach and were told by Martinez he was staying put in the same way that Rodgers is not talking to Liverpool today.
Wheelan then spins it that Martinez took his time to make his decision to make him look good and us look bad.
And what's the point of playing a game as you say? He's the owner of a premier club and should act in a respectful and dignified manner not whoring himself to Sky at every oppertunity to spout bollocks. The attention seeking twat can fuck off and take his piss pot club with him.
glad we came out of that looking good then
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I see reo-coker has activated a release clause at bolton- there could be a few decent players about from the relegated sides, hoilett, jarvis etc for young ogs to look at, he will need to wheel and deal like delboy and hopefully we have a much changed squad by august.
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anyway i cant spend all day on here sticking up for Whelan, as many of you have said he is an irrelevance in the main.
all the same an irrelevance who seems to get under a lot of posters skins who then automaticaly make him out to be far more important than he realy is, but hey ho
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But nobody on here had even mentioned OGS as a potential manager until yesterday. Now we all seem to be experts on his management potential.
Has anyone ( other than watching a youtube clip) actually followed his career to date? seriously, can anyone tell me what he's like as a manager without re-hashing other peoples' views?
I'm guessing that nobody on here even knew which club he was managing until they checked yesterday?
Very risky if you ask me
I tend to agree.
I don't think we should get carried away. We've been here before.
This might sound strange coming from me, but can't we just get carried away and enjoy it a teensy bit? If we're bottom at Christmas then I promise to revert to misery arse mode, but until then can't we just dream about what might be?
I will save my excitement for:
a) When he is appointed
b) The Press conference
3) His first moves in the transfer market
and F) The first game of the season.
Up until then I shall remain stoic.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
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After the last 12 months yes, a worthwhile gamble, but please Randy not a 4 year contract, but one based on results or a rolling year.
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Very excited by this appointment guys!!! Hopefully like many have said, Lerner now backs him and stops the rot at the club.
Btw has anyone real reason to believe his wife is a Villa fan or just some rumour started on twatter?
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I have a good feeling about this. Fuck knows why.
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If it's in the Daily Mail it must be true.
Daily Mail, Matt Kendrick, Jon Fear via someone else....all the same shit, really.
People just chose to believe some sources more than others.
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Its a gamble, its exciting and I've got a good feeling this will pay off. I really do believe this is a long-term plan and we need that, some stability and a young vibrant manager
Winning the title for Molde for the 1st time in 100 years couldn't have been easy no matter what league he was in
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For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
Me arse. He even let Brighton make us look bad when they had to sue us for the Barry tribunal money.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
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This is the man Randy wants. The messages that we are getting saying that there are more on the shortlist is just simply the club attempting to manage (our) expectations should it all go tits up.
More like this is the man that Randy has been told that he needs. There's no way Lerner and Faulkner have come up with this one on their own, so I wonder whose advice thay have taken this time? You would hope they were not stupid enough to go back to Ferguson after his recommendation of McLeish and proclamations of what a good job he was doing. Hopefully they worked out that Ferguson's main interest was getting his acolytes in employment rather than the welfare of Aston Villa and steered well clear. They do seem to have an obsession with Manchester United though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have sounded him out again.
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
I'd take Owen without question. I also hope OGS would give Gabby a boot up the arse or move him out.
No thanks - has been ex-striker more interested in other things nowadays like Fashanu was
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If it's in the Daily Mail it must be true.
Daily Mail, Matt Kendrick, Jon Fear via someone else....all the same shit, really.
People just chose to believe some sources more than others.
old media very slow off the mark on this story. We knew yesterday morning what they know now.
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They do seem to have an obsession with Manchester United...
Like many on here, you mean?
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
If we get him on the right terms I'd love to see Owen at the Villa. Might teach Gabby a thing or two
Spot on mate, have been saying this since I heard Owen was released by Man u
If it was McLeish signing Owen would you think the same? Owen is a crock, he'd be on high wages and he would not be the type of signing on which to rebuild Villa. Have twelve months of some of the shittest football ever turned our fanbase into a bunch of quivering wrecks? Before my eyes we're turning into a Middlesborough or Coventry City happy to accept literally anything as long as it's not a certain ginger Scottish manager.
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This is the man Randy wants. The messages that we are getting saying that there are more on the shortlist is just simply the club attempting to manage (our) expectations should it all go tits up.
More like this is the man that Randy has been told that he needs. There's no way Lerner and Faulkner have come up with this one on their own, so I wonder whose advice thay have taken this time? You would hope they were not stupid enough to go back to Ferguson after his recommendation of McLeish and proclamations of what a good job he was doing. Hopefully they worked out the Ferguson's main interest was getting his acolytes in employment rather than the welfare of Aston Villa and steered well clear. They do seem to have an obsession with Manchester United though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have sounded him out again.
Even when they're doing something right you're finding an excuse to moan. Well done.
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This is the man Randy wants. The messages that we are getting saying that there are more on the shortlist is just simply the club attempting to manage (our) expectations should it all go tits up.
More like this is the man that Randy has been told that he needs. There's no way Lerner and Faulkner have come up with this one on their own, so I wonder whose advice thay have taken this time? You would hope they were not stupid enough to go back to Ferguson after his recommendation of McLeish and proclamations of what a good job he was doing. Hopefully they worked out the Ferguson's main interest was getting his acolytes in employment rather than the welfare of Aston Villa and steered well clear. They do seem to have an obsession with Manchester United though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have sounded him out again.
Christ almighty.
I've criticised the board as much as the next man over the last few years, but can't you just give them a bit of credit for having learned something and chosen a manager who looks a very good fit for the club rather than picking one of the obvious pool of utterly underwhelming British managers?
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I've had a spring in my step this morning with the prospect of Ole being appointed, but I've just realised it'll be the first time we'll have had a manager who's younger than me.
Bugger, now i just feel old. Do we get cheaper tickets and a bus pass once we become older than the manager?
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For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
Me arse. He even let Brighton make us look bad when they had to sue us for the Barry tribunal money.
Maybe so Dave, but I don't think he would have let Whelan rubbish us so openly in the media without making some kind of riposte.
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Yes yes. New, young and ambitious.
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I've had a spring in my step this morning with the prospect of Ole being appointed, but I've just realised it'll be the first time we'll have had a manager who's younger than me.
Bugger, now i just feel old. Do we get cheaper tickets and a bus pass once we become older than the manager?
Have you noticed: the policemen are looking younger.
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Owen is a finisher, much rather him than gabby on the end of chances created, but only if its appearance related.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
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I've had a spring in my step this morning with the prospect of Ole being appointed, but I've just realised it'll be the first time we'll have had a manager who's younger than me.
Bugger, now i just feel old. Do we get cheaper tickets and a bus pass once we become older than the manager?
Have you noticed: the policemen are looking younger.
You know when you're getting old when the mum in ET looks fit.
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If Solskjær gets the job, which sick note, ex-England, out of contract striker do you think he'll sign first?
If we get him on the right terms I'd love to see Owen at the Villa. Might teach Gabby a thing or two
Spot on mate, have been saying this since I heard Owen was released by Man u
If it was McLeish signing Owen would you think the same? Owen is a crock, he'd be on high wages and he would not be the type of signing on which to rebuild Villa. Have twelve months of some of the shittest football ever turned our fanbase into a bunch of quivering wrecks? Before my eyes we're turning into a Middlesborough or Coventry City happy to accept literally anything as long as it's not a certain ginger Scottish manager.
That's why I said "on the right terms", meaning pay as you play, not £60k a week.
As for McLeish, he is already a distant memory and I don't want to dwell on that rancid season a moment longer. I couldn't give a monkeys what he would have done, he's not here anymore.
Bring on the entusiasm again! I can't wait to take my seat at the first game with a new manager, get behind the lads and get back where we belong
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Is anyone or anything, whether they be manager, player or supporter, ever going to be good enough for you?
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Stolen from Twitter, made me laugh:
Sean Gardner @SeanGardner88
Love that we sent a private jet to bring Solskjaer in. The Blues board told Hughton "Catch the 45 and get off at the Man On The Moon" #AVFC
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This is the man Randy wants. The messages that we are getting saying that there are more on the shortlist is just simply the club attempting to manage (our) expectations should it all go tits up.
More like this is the man that Randy has been told that he needs. There's no way Lerner and Faulkner have come up with this one on their own, so I wonder whose advice thay have taken this time? You would hope they were not stupid enough to go back to Ferguson after his recommendation of McLeish and proclamations of what a good job he was doing. Hopefully they worked out the Ferguson's main interest was getting his acolytes in employment rather than the welfare of Aston Villa and steered well clear. They do seem to have an obsession with Manchester United though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have sounded him out again.
Christ almighty.
I've criticised the board as much as the next man over the last few years, but can't you just give them a bit of credit for having learned something and chosen a manager who looks a very good fit for the club rather than picking one of the obvious pool of utterly underwhelming British managers?
Can you explain why he is a very good fit for the club because I am struggling to see it myself.
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Just logged in at lunch.... I think we need to take a deep breath. I am as excited as anyone, he is a good young manager, but there is a decent chance he will still say no.
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Owen is a finisher, much rather him than gabby on the end of chances created, but only if its appearance related.
Owen is pretty much finished more like, hence man utd dispensing of his services. Out with Emile and in with Owen! Genuinely, this does not strike me as forward thinking. We need to scout and invest in talent with resale value.
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Owen is a finisher, much rather him than gabby on the end of chances created, but only if its appearance related.
Owen is pretty much finished more like, hence man utd dispensing of his services. Out with Emile and in with Owen! Genuinely, this does not strike me as forward thinking. We need to scout and invest in talent with resale value.
If we could get Owen on a decent wage or pay per play contract then he's certainly worth using as a short term option.
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I've had a spring in my step this morning with the prospect of Ole being appointed, but I've just realised it'll be the first time we'll have had a manager who's younger than me.
Bugger, now i just feel old. Do we get cheaper tickets and a bus pass once we become older than the manager?
Have you noticed: the policemen are looking younger.
You know when you're getting old when the mum in ET looks fit.
Funny quip. I still live in hope there is one Top League regular older than me (Brad F) so there is still time for me yet.
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I can't remember the last time Owen was on the bench for United never mind in the first team. I'd rather us take a chance with someone like Jordan Rhodes.
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So now it is double standards for anyone who is a mod OR has enough posts?
The reason ths thread is here is because we are talking to the bloke in question. There will probably be one for Lambert if we speak to him.
It has nothing to do with who started it.
Flipping heck Paul, did you forget your sense of humor pill this morning? :)
Youre right, this thread is relevant, as I feel the ' Who do you want as our next manager' thread is becoming a bit of a joke.
I've not a problem with the new thread. There can be one for every candidate as far as I'm concerned. I made a light hearted comment (thus the smiley) that's all!
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So now it is double standards for anyone who is a mod OR has enough posts?
The reason ths thread is here is because we are talking to the bloke in question. There will probably be one for Lambert if we speak to him.
It has nothing to do with who started it.
Flipping heck Paul, did you forget your sense of humor pill this morning? :)
Youre right, this thread is relevant, as I feel the ' Who do you want as our next manager' thread is becoming a bit of a joke.
I've not a problem with the new thread. There can be one for every candidate as far as I'm concerned. I made a light hearted comment (thus the smiley) that's all!
Apols if i was a bit arsey. It's been somewhat traumatic dealing with the multiple manager threads of late.
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This is the man Randy wants. The messages that we are getting saying that there are more on the shortlist is just simply the club attempting to manage (our) expectations should it all go tits up.
More like this is the man that Randy has been told that he needs. There's no way Lerner and Faulkner have come up with this one on their own, so I wonder whose advice thay have taken this time? You would hope they were not stupid enough to go back to Ferguson after his recommendation of McLeish and proclamations of what a good job he was doing. Hopefully they worked out that Ferguson's main interest was getting his acolytes in employment rather than the welfare of Aston Villa and steered well clear. They do seem to have an obsession with Manchester United though, so it wouldn't surprise me if they have sounded him out again.
Has actually been mentioned but Lerner's friends with Jurgen Kilnsmann now base in the good ol' U.S and he recommended him to Lerner, not Sir Fergie.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Name me a manager that we could appoint that, if united came calling, would turn the opportunity to manage them down.
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I think we all have to be realistic in terms of who else we could bring in. With our squad I sincerely doubt Rodgers could play the kind of football he does at Swansea. He's worked with that team for quite a while to get them how they are.
As for Lambert - one swallow doesn't make a summer. He's had back to back promotions and would be a decent shout, but still a gamble, and anyone who says different doesn't know a jot about football in the modern age. I'd still think he was our best bet.
Martinez...looks like he's destined to go elsewhere after turning us down before!
Rafa - we don't have the funds for him to be successful
AVB - still smarting and a gamble - wouldn't come to us anyway.
Now on to Ole....I honestly think in any other circumstances, he'd be a great punt. young, enthusiastic, showed he had something at United Reserves, and took Molde to a title with a negative outlay in transfers. My only concern is this is hot off the back of arguably our worst ever season in the Premiership. We need stability and platforms...this smacks of too much of a gamble for me.
If Ole got in Steve Clarke as assistant I would be slightly happier.
I'll back whoever we get, and I think Ole would come good...I hope, if we go for him, that he hits the ground running as there are mistakes to be made when learning...and I don't want us to be the proving ground.
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So now it is double standards for anyone who is a mod OR has enough posts?
The reason ths thread is here is because we are talking to the bloke in question. There will probably be one for Lambert if we speak to him.
It has nothing to do with who started it.
Flipping heck Paul, did you forget your sense of humor pill this morning? :)
Youre right, this thread is relevant, as I feel the ' Who do you want as our next manager' thread is becoming a bit of a joke.
I've not a problem with the new thread. There can be one for every candidate as far as I'm concerned. I made a light hearted comment (thus the smiley) that's all!
Apols if i was a bit arsey. It's been somewhat traumatic dealing with the multiple manager threads of late.
Oh come on Paulie what kind of excuse is that? Eastie manages to sit on here and watch SSN all day.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Is anyone or anything, whether they be manager, player or supporter, ever going to be good enough for you?
Plenty of folks are good enough for me Dave, but a totally unproven manager from the Norwegian leagues being asked to turn us around is astonishing really. I'm seeing no evidence - apart from rabid blind faith based on an MUTV video(!) - that OGS is up to the task in hand. Look, I want us to get this very important appointment as spot on as the next man, but this job is, in my opinion, a step too big and a step too soon for a novice like OGS. This reminds me of the giddy delight Middlesboro fans got themselves in when Bryan Robson became their boss.
If we want former European/league/ Cup winners who are excellent coaches and reserve team managers to lead our club then I'll throw my weight behind K Mac and Sid. Just as much of a gamble, for sure, but if it worked I'd feel much more confident that they would be here for the long term good of our club.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Name me a manager that we could appoint that, if united came calling, would turn the opportunity to manage them down.
Same with players. Like in the old days if Enlgand wanted your manager then he's obviously done a very good job. So when its the biggest club in the world, the same goes.
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I'm already sick of the idea of hearing "Aston Villa manager and former Manchester United striker, Ole Gunnar Solksjaer..." and I haven't heard it yet.
Not sure why there's a massive love in with him. Seems to me that there'll be MASSIVE expectation of him, and having to wait while he bombs arseholes like Dunne and Collins out of the club and get the team playing attractive football is something a lot of people won't have patience for.
At least with Rodgers or Lambert the expectation is that they build there teams gradually and purposefully and this would be the expectation. OGS is coming across on here as the grand solution to everything.
I very much doubt he will be. I WANT him to be. If he comes, I hope he is. But I just don't think it's going to work out that way.
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You know when you're getting old when the mum in ET looks fit.
Just wait until you reach an age when you think ET is fit, until you put your distance glasses on and realise who it is.
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I can't remember the last time Owen was on the bench for United never mind in the first team. I'd rather us take a chance with someone like Jordan Rhodes.
Owen scored 17 in 52 games for manure, only 18 of which he started.
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For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
Me arse. He even let Brighton make us look bad when they had to sue us for the Barry tribunal money.
Maybe so Dave, but I don't think he would have let Whelan rubbish us so openly in the media without making some kind of riposte.
Yeah, Randy Lerner should get into a war of words with the chairman of Wigan. That'd make Villa look really good.
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Name me a manager that we could appoint that, if united came calling, would turn the opportunity to manage them down.
Me! *winky thing*
Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Is anyone or anything, whether they be manager, player or supporter, ever going to be good enough for you?
Plenty of folks are good enough for me Dave, but a totally unproven manager from the Norwegian leagues being asked to turn us around is astonishing really. I'm seeing no evidence - apart from rabid blind faith based on an MUTV video(!) - that OGS is up to the task in hand. Look, I want us to get this very important appointment as spot on as the next man, but this job is, in my opinion, a step too big and a step too soon for a novice like OGS. This reminds me of the giddy delight Middlesboro fans got themselves in when Bryan Robson became their boss.
If we want former European/league/ Cup winners who are excellent coaches and reserve team managers to lead our club then I'll throw my weight behind K Mac and Sid. Just as much of a gamble, for sure, but if it worked I'd feel much more confident that they would be here for the long term good of our club.
I agree with the Bryan Robson correlation. I still think OGS could work with a Steve Clarke in situ as an Ass. Manager, but I agree; to say it's not a gamble is to be as naive as said Boro fans.
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For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
Me arse. He even let Brighton make us look bad when they had to sue us for the Barry tribunal money.
Maybe so Dave, but I don't think he would have let Whelan rubbish us so openly in the media without making some kind of riposte.
Yeah, Randy Lerner should get into a war of words with the chairman of Wigan. That'd make Villa look really good.
I dont think Villa need to say anything in response to Whelan's comments. We can just do our talking on the pitch next season when we will finish higher than them in the league and they will get relegated
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Can you explain why he is a very good fit for the club because I am struggling to see it myself.
The things on that film that stand out for me are:
He likes to play football on the ground rather than the hoofball which villa fans have been crying out against since Martin O'Neill. The shots of his current team in action, in what was stated to be a Championship standard and style league, were very promising imo.
He is well involved with the academy at his current club and may well enjoy and be able to make the most of the set up we have here.
The idea of Man U fans adopting us as their second club also appeals to me oddly, because it's actually a great opportunity to pick up our local glory hunters (maybe even in Aston) and turn them into Villa fans - so it's a marketable appointment too.
Other than that - there honestly isn't a stand out manager that I'd want here who would want to come to us in our current condition. The media have done a very good job of making us look like a bunch of spoilt brats for expecting a better season than the one we've just had. Let their darling Liverpool, Spurs or Newcastle fans get served up what we've just got and they would be "passionate" when they wouldn't put up with it. However we drove out the great Martin O'Neill, nearly killed Gerrard Houllier, and never gave McLeish a chance - we aren't looking that good right now. From OGS's perspective though - we're big enough for him to make a name for himself, but with a poor enough recent history for it not to reflect on him if it all goes wrong!
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I'm sure he's angling after the Manure job, but he'll have to prove himself first, and that means winning things, so I am more than happy for him to do that with us.
If his successful with us I think he will stay with us. Fergie has made it hard for any incoming manager at Manure. Hard to follow a club legend.
If he ever got offered the united job of course he would take it!
Of course he would Eastie, they're the biggest and bestest club in the world! Let's have little old Villa being a testing ground for their would-be managers and players. That's the way to rebuild Villa for the long term. Why should we want a manager at Villa who might want to stick around and grow Villa to reach its undoubted potential? Good old Ole and good old man utd they're destiny...it would be an honour for Villa to help such a story unfold!
Name me a manager that we could appoint that, if united came calling, would turn the opportunity to manage them down.
Me! *winky thing*
Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
We can have stability because he needs to do some serious achieving before Manure even consider him. So let's be the club he achieves with.
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I've had a spring in my step this morning with the prospect of Ole being appointed, but I've just realised it'll be the first time we'll have had a manager who's younger than me.
Bugger, now i just feel old. Do we get cheaper tickets and a bus pass once we become older than the manager?
Have you noticed: the policemen are looking younger.
You know when you're getting old when the mum in ET looks fit.
Funny quip. I still live in hope there is one Top League regular older than me (Brad F) so there is still time for me yet.
I was depressed for a month when Nigel Spink retired.
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I think people are wrong that no-one knew anything about OGS. He has been mentioned a number of times. I know because I have responded agreeing that he is a good prospect.
Prospect is a key word however. His lack of experience is a huge risk that we would need to mitigate against. An experience guy next to him would help but I cannot think of a suitable candidates, beyond Venables to be honest, and Id hate to see him anywhere near Villa Park.
Most of the ex-united players have become rather old school managers rather than the progressive approach OGS describes. Maybe Carlos Querioz could be good back up, although he is known as a good coach but terrible manager.
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I think Solskjaer could be a great appointment for us at the moment.
He can't balls it up any more than the former incumbent can he? And, he just might serve up some football worth watching.
Personally, I couldn't give a monkey's about who he played for previously, it's irrelevant.
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Me! *winky thing*
Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
You really think that united will appoint Ferguson's successor based solely on sentiment, and not on his ability to do the job? OGS will need to have proven beyond doubt that he has the ability to manage a club the size of united, which will mean he'll have had to have done extremely well here. If that happens, and he does indeed move on, then we'd be in a position to pick a manager of greater calibre than the other candidates currently in the running, so it's not like we'd be back to bargain basement appointments like McLeish.
In short, being against the appointment because he might leave to join united in 5 years is completely ridiculous in my opinion.
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From the Independent....
Former Aston Villa striker John Carew believes Solskjaer is an ideal candidate to lead the midlands club out of the doldrums.
Carew, who spent four years with Villa, scoring 52 goals in 133 appearances, said: "This would be a fantastic job for Ole Gunnar to have.
"Villa are among the six, seven biggest clubs in England. They have fantastic fans and a fantastic stadium.
"Solskjaer is a big name in England. On top of that, he has the mentality and respect from players he needs to suceed."
Speaking to Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, Carew added: "Villa are also a club who, without doubt, love Norwegians and Scandinavians.
"I've received tweets from Villa fans today who want Solskjaer as their new manager. I think Villa will work really well under his leadership.
"Everything suggests Solskjaer can have a great managerial career in England."
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Apparently the os is having 'technical gremlins'
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2776325,00.html (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2776325,00.html)
hopefully caused by uploading all the OGS photos with villa shirt outside BH
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Why not? New manager, new ideas, won everything as a player, has done well so far, albeit in a nothing league. Can't do worse than AM.
Give it a whirl and see what happens. Generally, you know what to expect when a new manager comes in (MON, GH and AM), but do we really know what OSG would do, makes it a little exciting not knowing.
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For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
Me arse. He even let Brighton make us look bad when they had to sue us for the Barry tribunal money.
Maybe so Dave, but I don't think he would have let Whelan rubbish us so openly in the media without making some kind of riposte.
Yeah, Randy Lerner should get into a war of words with the chairman of Wigan. That'd make Villa look really good.
I dont think Villa need to say anything in response to Whelan's comments. We can just do our talking on the pitch next season when we will finish higher than them in the league and they will get relegated
Not that different really from the stuff Holloway came out with the other year when we were supposed to be after Charlie Adam.
Villa didn't respond, Blackpool went down.
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For all his faults when he was Chairman, Doug Ellis would have never allowed the chairman of a club like Wigan get one over on him.
Me arse. He even let Brighton make us look bad when they had to sue us for the Barry tribunal money.
Maybe so Dave, but I don't think he would have let Whelan rubbish us so openly in the media without making some kind of riposte.
Yeah, Randy Lerner should get into a war of words with the chairman of Wigan. That'd make Villa look really good.
Not talking about a war of words, just would be nice to hear someone standing up for the club for a change. I must admit that I didn't like hearing our club being belittled on national radio yesterday, particularly by the chairman of Wigan.
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Me! *winky thing*
Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
You really think that united will appoint Ferguson's successor based solely on sentiment, and not on his ability to do the job? OGS will need to have proven beyond doubt that he has the ability to manage a club the size of united, which will mean he'll have had to have done extremely well here. If that happens, and he does indeed move on, then we'd be in a position to pick a manager of greater calibre than the other candidates currently in the running, so it's not like we'd be back to bargain basement appointments like McLeish.
In short, being against the appointment because he might leave to join united in 5 years is completely ridiculous in my opinion.
Well said. For Man Utd to want him directly from us, he'd have to have won something with us, which, whilst you'd be pissed off with him for leaving, it means we would've won something.
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From the Independent....
Former Aston Villa striker John Carew believes Solskjær is an ideal candidate to lead the midlands club out of the doldrums.
Carew, who spent four years with Villa, scoring 52 goals in 133 appearances, said: "This would be a fantastic job for Ole Gunnar to have.
"Villa are among the six, seven biggest clubs in England. They have fantastic fans and a fantastic stadium.
"Solskjær is a big name in England. On top of that, he has the mentality and respect from players he needs to suceed."
Speaking to Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, Carew added: "Villa are also a club who, without doubt, love Norwegians and Scandinavians.
"I've received tweets from Villa fans today who want Solskjær as their new manager. I think Villa will work really well under his leadership.
"Everything suggests Solskjær can have a great managerial career in England."
Good old Carew.
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The sad truth about Villa is that our treatment of our last three managers has been awful. No matter what the provocation no individual deserves the poisonous personal abuse that some voices that associate themselves with Villa like to dish out.
If it happens - OGS is a brave appointment if nothing else. And to be honest - a break from the usual suspects of serial failures that we get linked with.
I think Randy wants to get us back on track as being innovative and nurturing and exciting - exactly the opposite of what so many doom mongers on here suggest.
As for OGS lack of experience - WTF? The kid is a natural born winner - and has proved that at every step of his career. Villa would be just the next one. And please get over the fact he is a ManU legend. So was Paul McGrath - and he didn't do too bad for us either.
The naysayers don't want a manager - they want a fan in charge - someone who'll never leave. Well here's news - Managers always leave - you just want the club you love to be the stronger for having had them in the first place.
And we are lucky compared to ManU - or Liverpool - or indeed ManCiteh - cos our owner is a fan - and he'll put his money where his mouth is to get the Villa he wants.
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Can you explain why he is a very good fit for the club because I am struggling to see it myself.
The things on that film that stand out for me are:
He likes to play football on the ground rather than the hoofball which villa fans have been crying out against since Martin O'Neill. The shots of his current team in action, in what was stated to be a Championship standard and style league, were very promising imo.
He is well involved with the academy at his current club and may well enjoy and be able to make the most of the set up we have here.
The idea of Man U fans adopting us as their second club also appeals to me oddly, because it's actually a great opportunity to pick up our local glory hunters (maybe even in Aston) and turn them into Villa fans - so it's a marketable appointment too.
Other than that - there honestly isn't a stand out manager that I'd want here who would want to come to us in our current condition. The media have done a very good job of making us look like a bunch of spoilt brats for expecting a better season than the one we've just had. Let their darling Liverpool, Spurs or Newcastle fans get served up what we've just got and they would be "passionate" when they wouldn't put up with it. However we drove out the great Martin O'Neill, nearly killed Gerrard Houllier, and never gave McLeish a chance - we aren't looking that good right now. From OGS's perspective though - we're big enough for him to make a name for himself, but with a poor enough recent history for it not to reflect on him if it all goes wrong!
Just to add to the above. Siralex has always said that OGS was the biggest student of the game he has ever managed. Whereas - I suspect - Bryan Robson (at Boro) thought that a bit of fist pumping and shouting was enough to be a good manager.
I posted this earlier, but before he was linked I noticed this on Gary Nevilles twitter:
Q (to GNev2): Any advice to a person about to do their coaching badges
A: Yeah, sit next to somebody clever
Q: So who did you sit by?
A: Ole Gunnar. A perfect example.
You then had Ferdinand (on that youtube clip) saying that hed want to work under OGS if he went into management. For somebody with an ego of Ferdinands size it suggests that OGS must have some pretty strong characteristics for him to want to work under him.
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I can't remember the last time Owen was on the bench for United never mind in the first team. I'd rather us take a chance with someone like Jordan Rhodes.
Owen scored 17 in 52 games for manure, only 18 of which he started.
He scored 5 League goals in 3 years - his other goals were mainly FA Cup/League Cup against lower league.
A Has-Been. We need to move on.
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If we want former European/league/ Cup winners who are excellent coaches and reserve team managers to lead our club then I'll throw my weight behind K Mac and Sid. Just as much of a gamble, for sure, but if it worked I'd feel much more confident that they would be here for the long term good of our club.
And if they failed they would be sacked and we would more than likely lose the best youth coaching set-up in English football. Besides, Sid has never looked like wanting a managers job and K-Mac was pretty arse the first time round.
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Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
Our best manager (results wise) in recent years was O'Neill, he'd have been up the M6 quicker than you could say "Bottling wanker" if United had come calling.
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The sad truth about Villa is that our treatment of our last three managers has been awful.
I disagree strongly.
AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
It was no more than he deserved.
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Been for a pint at lunch, so what have I missed?
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The idea of Man U fans adopting us as their second club also appeals to me oddly, because it's actually a great opportunity to pick up our local glory hunters (maybe even in Aston) and turn them into Villa fans - so it's a marketable appointment .
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I couldn't think of anything worse. What next split scarves.
Brummie Reds are all the sons of noses so it would never happen.
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Saying that we can't employ any manager who is a fan of a different club is as bad as demanding Premier League experience! It just limits you. There's no perfect solution, we just have to get the best we can for the now. Maybe the guy will be a huge success and fall in love with the place, settle in the Midlands and not want to leave! Who can see the future?
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Been for a pint at lunch, so what have I missed?
It's Steve Bull with Trevor Francis as DoF.
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Been for a pint at lunch, so what have I missed?
Loose Women.
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The things on that film that stand out for me are:
You then had Ferdinand (on that youtube clip) saying that hed want to work under OGS if he went into management. For somebody with an ego of Ferdinands size it suggests that OGS must have some pretty strong characteristics for him to want to work under him.
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Good point - hope he doesn't take Ferdinand up on the offer too soon mind.
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Saying that we can't employ any manager who is a fan of a different club is as bad as demanding Premier League experience!
Agreed, he had a long and succesful career with Man United despite being a Liverpool supporter, don't think United supporters were too bothered whilst he was scoring goals for them.
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Welcome to B6 Ole.
I'm In.
UTV
VTID
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Me! *winky thing*
Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
You really think that united will appoint Ferguson's successor based solely on sentiment, and not on his ability to do the job? OGS will need to have proven beyond doubt that he has the ability to manage a club the size of united, which will mean he'll have had to have done extremely well here. If that happens, and he does indeed move on, then we'd be in a position to pick a manager of greater calibre than the other candidates currently in the running, so it's not like we'd be back to bargain basement appointments like McLeish.
In short, being against the appointment because he might leave to join united in 5 years is completely ridiculous in my opinion.
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Very well put Ger
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AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
??? Get a grip.
This was the scene before he got the job!
(http://momedia.kyte.tv/mv/bor/1106/15/19/3286136-mcleishprotest5_460_307.jpg?h=c34bc880742c0063764987cb82786051)
Glad to see the back of him as well - but we can't hide from the truth simply because it's a touch negative. GH - GMac - AML - all given lots and lots.
On a brighter note - If it is OGS - I hope he brings this young left footed centre half with him...
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The sad truth about Villa is that our treatment of our last three managers has been awful.
I disagree strongly.
AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
It was no more than he deserved.
The treatment 2 of them gave Aston Villa was awful.
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From the Independent....
Former Aston Villa striker John Carew believes Solskjær is an ideal candidate to lead the midlands club out of the doldrums.
Carew, who spent four years with Villa, scoring 52 goals in 133 appearances, said: "This would be a fantastic job for Ole Gunnar to have.
"Villa are among the six, seven biggest clubs in England. They have fantastic fans and a fantastic stadium.
"Solskjær is a big name in England. On top of that, he has the mentality and respect from players he needs to suceed."
Speaking to Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet, Carew added: "Villa are also a club who, without doubt, love Norwegians and Scandinavians.
"I've received tweets from Villa fans today who want Solskjær as their new manager. I think Villa will work really well under his leadership.
"Everything suggests Solskjær can have a great managerial career in England."
Good old Carew.
Nice words from Big John, good lad.
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AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
??? Get a grip.
This was the scene before he got the job!
(http://momedia.kyte.tv/mv/bor/1106/15/19/3286136-mcleishprotest5_460_307.jpg?h=c34bc880742c0063764987cb82786051)
Glad to see the back of him as well - but we can't hide from the truth simply because it's a touch negative. GH - GMac - AML - all given lots and lots.
On a brighter note - If it is OGS - I hope he brings this young left footed centre half with him... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O05lwY0LdU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O05lwY0LdU)
Someone pointed out above that the crowd were very patient with McLeish, and that's true
Posting a pic of a bunch of placard waving idiots protesting before the season started isn't that convincing.
I get the feeling we're approaching a misuse of the "f" word soon, too.
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This is a real gamble, I was really worried when it was mentioned, but I'm coming around to it, especially hearing reaction from others. It really is entering the unknown...
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Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
Our best manager (results wise) in recent years was O'Neill, he'd have been up the M6 quicker than you could say "Bottling wanker" if United had come calling.
1. John Gregory- 41.22%
2. Martin O Neill- 40.13%
3. Brian Little- 39.23%
4. Ron Atkinson- 38.78%
5. David O Leary- 32.46%
6. Gerard Houllier- 30.30%
7. Graham Taylor- 29.41%
8. Alex Mcleish- 20%
Read more: http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=48651&start=1#ixzz1vDy1jNf6
1. John Gregory- 41.22%
2. Martin O Neill- 40.13%
3. Brian Little- 39.23%
4. Ron Atkinson- 38.78%
5. David O Leary- 32.46%
6. Gerard Houllier- 30.30%
7. Graham Taylor- 29.41%
8. Alex Mcleish- 20%
gregory had a better win percentage than mon
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I am impressed with the write ups, and it looks like we are getting a bit of vision from the owner et al about our future. Quietly optomistic. A year ago I was quietly hopeful. So, we are already on the up.
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Liverpool have appointed Ken Dodd as manager so they don't have to change the initials on the tracksuit !
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What I hope is that if Solsjkaer is appointed he starts to implement a passing football philosophy throughout the club. Then when he's successful and moves on, the next manager we bring in just continues that philosophy and so on. I think that's our only hope of competing in future, but it'll take a number of years.
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It would be a gamble, that can't be denied.
My own take is that I'd much rather have someone bright, someone technically gifted (which you must be to pass the associated UEFA licenses, etc, these days) and at the start of their managerial career than someone who's been around for 20-odd years, and came into club management before requirements were as strict.
All managers start somewhere; our other option would be not to do something like this, wait, potentially, for OGS to go somewhere else, and then try for him several years down the line. Why not make the decision now? When Barcelona were looking for a new coach four years ago, they had Arsene Wenger on the shortlist, but eventually chose their reserve team manager, because they liked the working processes he implemented, and his coaching approach. Porto went with a coach barely in his 30s.
If it is OGS, he is very highly thought of within the wider coaching family. He's young, and hungry, and it could be a brilliant decision...
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AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
??? Get a grip.
I'm not talking about some bunch of nob-ends from a Facebook group, I'm talking about the people who scan their season tickets at the turnstile every other saturday.
The paying customers gave him support above and beyond the call of duty. It's the moment McLeish lost them that he was finished.
But knock yourself out with your Nasty Villa myth, it's a free country.
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AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
??? Get a grip.
I'm not talking about some bunch of nob-ends from a Facebook group, I'm talking about the people who scan their season tickets at the turnstile every other saturday.
The paying customers gave him support above and beyond the call of duty. It's the moment McLeish lost them that he was finished.
But knock yourself out with your Nasty Villa myth, it's a free country.
Exactly the support lasted a lot longer than it should have against the performances. I think we as a group of supporters were very patient. That is with the exception of a minority of clowns who had it in for him from the start.
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Yes, and if we allow ourself to focus on that minority of clowns, then we play into the hands of one-eyed twats like James Nursey and Oliver Holt.
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Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
Our best manager (results wise) in recent years was O'Neill, he'd have been up the M6 quicker than you could say "Bottling wanker" if United had come calling.
1. John Gregory- 41.22%
2. Martin O Neill- 40.13%
3. Brian Little- 39.23%
4. Ron Atkinson- 38.78%
5. David O Leary- 32.46%
6. Gerard Houllier- 30.30%
7. Graham Taylor- 29.41%
8. Alex Mcleish- 20%
gregory had a better win percentage than mon
Good, gives me another reason to slag O'Bottler off then. Not even as good as Gregory!
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AM's `abuse' began in minute 86 of the Bolton game. Until then he had been treated with patience and respect.
??? Get a grip.
I'm not talking about some bunch of nob-ends from a Facebook group, I'm talking about the people who scan their season tickets at the turnstile every other saturday.
The paying customers gave him support above and beyond the call of duty. It's the moment McLeish lost them that he was finished.
But knock yourself out with your Nasty Villa myth, it's a free country.
Your right where it concerns me at least, I wanted him gone after the Bolton game.
I don't recognise anyone in the picture, I never have in any of the 'riot' photos. I'm not saying I know every Villa fan in the world but you think I'd recognise at least one.
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I find it vaguely amusing that Villa fans can be getting any flak for McLeish leaving, when I don't recall much criticism for Newcastle and Liverpool fans when they effectively got Allardyce and Hodgson the boot. Neither manager lasted much past half a season, and both were doing a reasonable job to that point. Now that's fan power getting the manager the sack.
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Obviously plenty of folk would be tempted Ger, but why go for a manager who who definitely would? How can we seriously have stability and long term planning at Aston Villa with such a figure?
Our best manager (results wise) in recent years was O'Neill, he'd have been up the M6 quicker than you could say "Bottling wanker" if United had come calling.
1. John Gregory- 41.22%
2. Martin O Neill- 40.13%
3. Brian Little- 39.23%
4. Ron Atkinson- 38.78%
5. David O Leary- 32.46%
6. Gerard Houllier- 30.30%
7. Graham Taylor- 29.41%
8. Alex Mcleish- 20%
gregory had a better win percentage than mon
Good, gives me another reason to slag O'Bottler off then. Not even as good as Gregory!
haha yes very true, for all his critics gregory came good in my opinion so ogs can too. i also have to admit that i really loved him as a player as well
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Just makes me think of the zola - west ham comparison. It's all good in theory
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Just makes me think of the zola - west ham comparison. It's all good in theory
But in that case, it was just theory. He'd never managed anything in his life.
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Would I be happy? Yes, but this is a huge gamble. I commented some time ago that when looking for a new manager Randy should learn from our history. We are a big club, with big expectations and we need a big personality to take charge. History has shown us that to manage our club successfully we need a strong character. Saunders, Taylor and Ron Atkinson come to mind. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another Venglos or Turner style appointment. Anyway if it is OGS then I hope it works out!
UTV
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Just makes me think of the zola - west ham comparison. It's all good in theory
But in that case, it was just theory. He'd never managed anything in his life.
He managed Italian U21s to be fair
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Those % for SGT look wrong to me, either that or they've arbitrarily ignored his first stint.
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I think it's PL years only.
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Those % for SGT look wrong to me, either that or they've arbitrarily ignored his first stint.
pretty sure its prem era only, he left in 1991 didnt he?
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as everyone seems to operate on a football was invented in 1992 nowadays its only clubs like villa who have largely failed in the prem era who remember the good old days
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Just makes me think of the zola - west ham comparison. It's all good in theory
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But in that case, it was just theory. He'd never managed anything in his life.
He managed Italian U21s to be fair
He assisted Casiaraghi
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
Whoever was on the plane has been at Villa Park since around 1.00pm
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
Sky Sports understands that Solskjaer asked for the plane to circle Salford for the past three hours.
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
Ages ago, someone posted it as having landed about 10-12 pages back.
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
Ages ago, someone posted it as having landed about 10-12 pages back.
Good stuff. What odds for a press conference c5.30pm?
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
Ages ago, someone posted it as having landed about 10-12 pages back.
Good stuff. What odds for a press conference c5.30pm?
I doubt it.
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He's been on Randy's jet for over 3 hours now. Has it landed at Brum yet?
Ages ago, someone posted it as having landed about 10-12 pages back.
Good stuff. What odds for a press conference c5.30pm?
I doubt it.
Probably not enough time to organise it, I'd guess he'll head back, look after molde in their game this weekend and then we'll hear something on monday.
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Kendricks already said no press conference today.
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So the cars from the airport went straight to B6? I'm sure the plan will be to show off the Bodymoor facilities as well, so presumably they'll be off there soon??
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Liverpool have appointed Ken Dodd as manager so they don't have to change the initials on the tracksuit !
I'd heard they were looking to copy Arsenal and go French. Favourite with the bookies is now Marine Le Pen.
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I just stopped off at VP to see if there are any bargains in the shop and ended up being interviewed by a Norwegian journo. He seemed to think that it's done and dusted and that Mr & Mrs S are having a good look around the place.
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So the cars from the airport went straight to B6? I'm sure the plan will be to show off the Bodymoor facilities as well, so presumably they'll be off there soon??
I would have thought they'd have started at BH. I imagine OGS remembers playing at VP well enough!
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Just got a chance to post again. People talking about Brendan Rodgers, I know it was a few pages back but for me he's overrated. Martinez started off the silky football that Swansea played & Sousa carried it on. Rodgers hasn't changed it because it worked. However take a look at what Rodgers did elsewhere and he really doesn't look as attractive.
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I just stopped off at VP to see if there are any bargains in the shop and ended up being interviewed by a Norwegian journo.
Oh Christ. Norway will probably sever diplomatic relations.
I got interviewed by an Indian radio journalist after the cup semi-final. I still wonder what listeners in Bangalore made of that. When I finished the poor bloke took his microphone and literally ran away.
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I just stopped off at VP to see if there are any bargains in the shop and ended up being interviewed by a Norwegian journo.
Oh Christ. Norway will probably sever diplomatic relations.
I got interviewed by an Indian radio journalist after the cup semi-final. I still wonder what listeners in Bangalore made of that. When I finished the poor bloke took his microphone and literally ran away.
I hope jembob took the opportunity to confuse the journalist by imitating the chef from the muppet show.
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Hoping its a done deal, as im in Sheldon and just seen Randys jet take off. Hope its not Norway bound to drop OGS home.
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
do these people sit at the airport with a mac and dark glasses on taking notes, hiding behind lamposts and plants as Randy goes by?
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
do these people sit at the airport with a mac and dark glasses on taking notes, hiding behind lamposts and plants as Randy goes by?
Afraid so. But he has called it from the start and alot of people put money on at 33/1 or even 40/1.
I am an idiot and didn't.
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I think it's a really imaginitive appointment if it comes off. Exactly the way I was hoping Lerner and Faulkner were thinking after the debacle of the last 12 months.
Patience will be important but I think if the fans appreciate the way he trys to get the team playing, I think he will enjoy a wave of optimism and support, given the glloom we've experienced.
I shall be renewing my season ticket if it's confirmed.
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
That means Ole's turned us down and has been told to find his own way home. At least he might still get away with half price on the bus.
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
do these people sit at the airport with a mac and dark glasses on taking notes, hiding behind lamposts and plants as Randy goes by?
The Trees is an air traffic controller, it's not hard for anyone to track an aircraft if you know it's designator ie tail number or to find out who was onboard once it's landed.
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OSG's missus is very fine looking; she's given me the Norwegian wood.
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
That means Ole's turned us down and has been told to find his own way home. At least he might still get away with half price on the bus.
Just heard Ole's at the Hawthorns. The Baggies don't have their own jet and asked Randy if they could use his.
Press conference at 5.30pm (Black Country Time)
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Here's a clip of Ole telling his players to "fucking SHOOT!"
I wonder what he'd have made of Heskey.
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I'd say if Lerner has gone back, it's probably because it's sorted.
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I think I have been misunderstood.
When talking of fans giving managers a hard time - I am talking about perceptions 'outside' the club. About how people look at us - the media's portrayal of us - not about how we really are.
On another note - check this out and tell me - could anyone see AMcL giving a training session like this?
Sry - just refreshed and see it's already linked.
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I wonder what he'd have made of Heskey.
You could make a few things from 1 Emile Heskey, all of them would be fucking useless though.
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I think I have been misunderstood.
When talking of fans giving managers a hard time - I am talking about perceptions 'outside' the club. About how people look at us - the media's portrayal of us - not about how we really are.
Ah, OK. Apologies for being arsey in that case.
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OSG's missus is very fine looking; she's given me the Norwegian wood.
You might need to spruce yourself up to get your hands on her cones.
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I think I have been misunderstood.
When talking of fans giving managers a hard time - I am talking about perceptions 'outside' the club. About how people look at us - the media's portrayal of us - not about how we really are.
On another note - check this out and tell me - could anyone see AMcL giving a training session like this?
Sry - just refreshed and see it's already linked.
Wow, I think that is the first video I have ever seen of a training session where the manager isn't wandering up and down the touchline joking with his assistant whilst the players either run from one cone to another, or between them, or are stretching (often incorrectly) or playing keepy uppy with a ball whilst someone is 'it' in the middle of the ring...
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OSG's missus is very fine looking; she's given me the Norwegian wood.
You might need to spruce yourself up to get your hands on her cones.
Great book. Haruki Murakami if anyone is interested. Or try The Wind Up Bird Chronicle, even better
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Kendrick:
The Molde chairman expects OGS to be in charge of their league game on Sunday, according to Norwegian press. Story to follow shortly
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Kendrick:
The Molde chairman expects OGS to be in charge of their league game on Sunday, according to Norwegian press. Story to follow shortly
In an Alex McLeish expects to be managing Villa next season kind of way?
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
That means Ole's turned us down and has been told to find his own way home. At least he might still get away with half price on the bus.
Just heard Ole's at the Hawthorns. The Baggies don't have their own jet and asked Randy if they could use his.
Press conference at 5.30pm (Black Country Time)
I thought they had a Boeing Boeing 747
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Kendrick:
The Molde chairman expects OGS to be in charge of their league game on Sunday, according to Norwegian press. Story to follow shortly
Not done and dusted then?
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Kendrick:
The Molde chairman expects OGS to be in charge of their league game on Sunday, according to Norwegian press. Story to follow shortly
In an Alex McLeish expects to be managing Villa next season kind of way?
In a way I hope he does go back for that game, even if they've reached an agreement for him to join us. Not great form leaving a club two days before a game......
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Would be nice if faulkner put out a statement letting us know if negotiations will continue or if ogs is one of a shortlist.
Molde expect ogs to be manager on sunday and if randy has gone maybe lerner has has said ' fuck it , you can make your own way home'.
Could of course also means its all agreed and randy has flown home happy- we await further news.
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I think he'll stay in charge until the mid season break.
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@TimothyAbraham: Source in Norway told me Solksjaer has finished his talks with #AVFC and is en route back for Molde's game at the weekend.
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I think he'll stay in charge until the mid season break.
Too much work needs doing here to allow that , we need a manager asap.
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When is their mid-season break?
Him managing their next game says very little - maybe he's asked to do this to say goodbye to the players and fans?
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When is their mid-season break?
Him managing their next game says very little - maybe he's asked to do this to say goodbye to the players and fans?
28th May is the last game before the break starts, Games start again on the 20th June
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Surely if talks had broken down lerner would have stayed and moved to the next target, why cant he just stay in england until we have a new manager in place?
Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager- best we can hope is a statement saying a deal has been agreed for ogs to take over as manager next week , or will be be kept guessing?
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I think he'll stay in charge until the mid season break.
Too much work needs doing here to allow that , we need a manager asap.
Is there heck!
He can do both for 3 weeks. He can draw up shortlists and our lads will be on hols.
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I'd have no issues with him staying with Molde until 28/5.
We have no games, the players won't be training and the transfer market will be pretty quiet until after the Euros.
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maybe Lambert is still in the frame
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I'm hoping that Randy going back means it's a done deal OGS will take charge of his last game at the weekend and then come back and sign on the dotted line on Monday
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According to 'Thetrees' on VT. Randy's jet has just left to USA. Presumably with him on it.
That means Ole's turned us down and has been told to find his own way home. At least he might still get away with half price on the bus.
Just heard Ole's at the Hawthorns. The Baggies don't have their own jet and asked Randy if they could use his.
Press conference at 5.30pm (Black Country Time)
I thought they had a Boeing Boeing 747
Well I thought it was funny.
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Norwegian sources say OGS is on his way home, but Randy's jet is heading to the USA? So something is up.
If they have a break on the 28th May it's possible he'll see out his duties to then.. Gives Molde time to find a replacement and such.
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maybe Lambert is still in the frame
Not getting your first choice is going to smart again though isn't it?
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Remember Hodgson took the England job and finished the season with WBA ,could be the same kind of deal
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I'm hoping that Randy going back means it's a done deal OGS will take charge of his last game at the weekend and then come back and sign on the dotted line on Monday
I hope he signs on the dotted line today and an agreement is reached that he take on the job on 28 May.
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Me and Chico against the World so far!
I'm with you. It's fucking ridiculous.
Why?
Only because I would lose the bet that I have put on.
I have now warmed to the idea of Solskjaer becoming our manager, especially having researched things a bit.
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I cant see Randy going back to US if we have'nt got our man. Either we have signed him, but he is managing Molde til mid season break, or he has turned us down and Randy's jet has taken him home and Randy is still here looking at next target.
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Surely if talks had broken down lerner would have stayed and moved to the next target, why cant he just stay in england until we have a new manager in place?
Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager- best we can hope is a statement saying a deal has been agreed for ogs to take over as manager next week , or will be be kept guessing?
5 days ago AM was still preparing the team for the Norwich game. Even id OGS doesn't sign, things couldn't have moved much smoother or faster.
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The sad truth about Villa is that our treatment of our last three managers has been awful.
What utter, utter bollocks.
MON was almost treated like a deity, even well into his final season where mere criticism of some aspects of his tactics and team selection had his more devoted followers up in arms.
The gloss had worn off somewhat, as his more obvious shortcomings came to the fore post 2009. But I'd say the vast majority wanted him to continue for at least one more season. Popularity wise, he trumped even the likes of BFR and Sir Brian -despite ultimately achieving far less than they had delivered.
For all the tripe vomited out about Big Eck never being accepted by Villa fans, once the initial horror of the appointment had subsided, most were prepared to give him a chance. He responded to that by delivering seven wins and the type of abject surrender football you wouldn't even believe possible in competitive sport.
The only one who I might have a degree of sympathy with is Houllier - I thought the stick he got at the Wolves match was beyond the pale. But with his references to his past love, his air of detachment and his penchant for foot in mouth, he made himself very difficult to like. It's also worth bearing in mind that when we lost to Wolves at VP we were something like 6 points off the bottom of the table. Heading into mid March. Unacceptable, bearing in mind that side had been tipped as potential outsiders for the title by the likes of Ferguson and Wenger in July/Aug 2010. And had been strengthened by the purchase of Bent for £18-24 million in Jan 2011. We were never realistically going to be fighting it out with Man U and Arsenal, I think most of us accepted that. Even top 4 was most likely beyond us. But we shouldn't have been anywhere near the arse end of the table.
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Probably see it out until their half season. Makes sense.
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Right I'm nervous now, I'm hoping the deal has been completed. It would be odd for Randy to go back to the US if we haven't sorted the manager.
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Surely if talks had broken down lerner would have stayed and moved to the next target, why cant he just stay in england until we have a new manager in place?
Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager- best we can hope is a statement saying a deal has been agreed for ogs to take over as manager next week , or will be be kept guessing?
5 days ago AM was still preparing the team for the Norwich game. Even id OGS doesn't sign, things couldn't have moved much smoother or faster.
I agree. RL seems to have found his marbles again. Fair play to him.
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Just to update there is some misinformation going around that OGS has departed on Mr Lerner's jet, back to Norway.
This information may have been fed to at least one Sky reporter.
Mr.Lerner's jet has gone back to the U.S., with him on board. If OGS is going back it is a fairly long winded and arduous trip with SAS via Copenhagen and Oslo. If he does this, then he will likely take tomorrow morning's Copenhagen flight out of BHX, or go to Oslo from Heathrow.
That was from thetrees. So, yeah, something is up right now, I guess.
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Maybe Randy has gone back, because the deal is essentially sorted and Faulkner just needs to complete the formalities.
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Just to update there is some misinformation going around that OGS has departed on Mr Lerner's jet, back to Norway.
This information may have been fed to at least one Sky reporter.
Mr.Lerner's jet has gone back to the U.S., with him on board. If OGS is going back it is a fairly long winded and arduous trip with SAS via Copenhagen and Oslo. If he does this, then he will likely take tomorrow morning's Copenhagen flight out of BHX, or go to Oslo from Heathrow.
That was from thetrees. So, yeah, something is up right now, I guess.
You would have thought that Paul Faulkner would wine and dine him tonight.
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Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager
For heaven's sake Eastie we don't know what's gone on yet, calm down.
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Here's a clip of Ole telling his players to "fucking SHOOT!"
I wonder what he'd have made of Heskey.
He even speaks like a Manc. Sort of like Hitz picking up the Brummie accent - which I thought was bloody great.
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Just to update there is some misinformation going around that OGS has departed on Mr Lerner's jet, back to Norway.
This information may have been fed to at least one Sky reporter.
Mr.Lerner's jet has gone back to the U.S., with him on board. If OGS is going back it is a fairly long winded and arduous trip with SAS via Copenhagen and Oslo. If he does this, then he will likely take tomorrow morning's Copenhagen flight out of BHX, or go to Oslo from Heathrow.
That was from thetrees. So, yeah, something is up right now, I guess.
Or perhaps osmeone has made a 1minute phone call and sorted another charter for him.
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Just to update there is some misinformation going around that OGS has departed on Mr Lerner's jet, back to Norway.
This information may have been fed to at least one Sky reporter.
Mr.Lerner's jet has gone back to the U.S., with him on board. If OGS is going back it is a fairly long winded and arduous trip with SAS via Copenhagen and Oslo. If he does this, then he will likely take tomorrow morning's Copenhagen flight out of BHX, or go to Oslo from Heathrow.
That was from thetrees. So, yeah, something is up right now, I guess.
Maybe he said no and RL told him he could walk home.
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Randy doesn't really need to be there the whole time in any case. Meet, greet, explain vision for the club, listen to what OGS has to say etc etc - if it were agreed, the financials and what not would go ahead with Faulkner running things.
I'd be much more concerned if OGS had gone back to Norway on Randy's plane tbh
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It makes sense, really.
Ole comes over and agrees to be our manager.
Randy flies back to America.
Ole and his wife stay over night and then fly back in the morning, possibly Randy might even send his jet back to take them home.
He remains with Molde until their mid season break, when he officially becomes our manager.
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Maybe Randy has gone back, because the deal is essentially sorted and Faulkner just needs to complete the formalities.
Now you've got me worried - Faulkner to complete the deal? Get Steve Stride in to sort it!
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Here's a clip of Ole telling his players to "fucking SHOOT!"
I wonder what he'd have made of Heskey.
He even speaks like a Manc. Sort of like Hitz picking up the Brummie accent - which I thought was bloody great.
Shoot, shoot. Lovely.
As time has gone on and I've read and researched OGS, I have really warmed to the idea of him becoming our manager. Fingers and toes crossed.
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OGS has gone back to Norway, apparently
Pete Colley @petecolley
Right..OGS flown home! RL gone to the US! Talks went well but only preliminary.OGS not the only candidate...more talks next week! And rest:)
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
Why not?
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Here's a clip of Ole telling his players to "fucking SHOOT!"
I wonder what he'd have made of Heskey.
He even speaks like a Manc. Sort of like Hitz picking up the Brummie accent - which I thought was bloody great.
Shoot, shoot. Lovely.
As time has gone on and I've read and researched OGS, I have really warmed to the idea of him becoming our manager. Fingers and toes crossed.
Would love to see the McLeish and Grant equivalent!
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Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager
For heaven's sake Eastie we don't know what's gone on yet, calm down.
Indeed. It is in effect a multi-million pound deal, and one that is hugely important to both the club, and OGS and his family. You can't (and shouldn't) rush a deal like that.
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Surely if talks had broken down lerner would have stayed and moved to the next target, why cant he just stay in england until we have a new manager in place?
Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager- best we can hope is a statement saying a deal has been agreed for ogs to take over as manager next week , or will be be kept guessing?
you bricking it eastie?
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
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I've had a spring in my step this morning with the prospect of Ole being appointed, but I've just realised it'll be the first time we'll have had a manager who's younger than me.
Bugger, now i just feel old. Do we get cheaper tickets and a bus pass once we become older than the manager?
I was thinking this yesterday . Damn , sad times ..
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Surely if talks had broken down lerner would have stayed and moved to the next target, why cant he just stay in england until we have a new manager in place?
Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager- best we can hope is a statement saying a deal has been agreed for ogs to take over as manager next week , or will be be kept guessing?
you bricking it eastie?
I reckon SSN will be getting 100% viewing share Chez Eastie this weekend.
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
You can if you are a billionaire!
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
it's the weekend and maybe he wants to be with his kids and flip some burgers in the warm Cleveland pollution. I'm sure his entire life isn't Villa.
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
Why not?
Just seems excessive to me and his wife coming is presumably about where they'll live and so on, which comes after we decide if we want him and he decides if he wants the job.
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Surely if talks had broken down lerner would have stayed and moved to the next target, why cant he just stay in england until we have a new manager in place?
Nothing ever seems to go smoothly when we are looking for a manager- best we can hope is a statement saying a deal has been agreed for ogs to take over as manager next week , or will be be kept guessing?
you bricking it eastie?
I reckon SSN will be getting 100% viewing share Chez Eastie this weekend.
Nope paulie, start of a long 5 day stint at 5am sat morning so whatever if anything does happen in the meantime i will nit be anywhere near a tv screen i can promise you.
I want lambert and still think its a possibility but i have been impressed what ive seen of ogs in the last 24 hours and wouldnt be sad if he got the job.
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Pete Colley on Twitter says preliminary talks were held today. Randy back to USA & OSG back to Norway. More talks to be held next week
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
You can if you are a billionaire!
Preliminary talks would be by phone wouldn't they? When a manager travels to the club it's normally to seal the deal. My guess is OGS has gone home to consider things and no doubt to consult with Uncle Fergie whilst Randy has popped home for the weekend. Tune in on Monday for the next episode (maybe)!
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Solskjaer to Romsdals Budstikke: "I can confirm that I have spoken to #avfc. There were no negotiations, but an informal chat".
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Grant Holt has put in transfer request , maybe he knows Lambert is going Villa.
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
You can if you are a billionaire!
Preliminary talks would be by phone wouldn't they? When a manager travels to the club it's normally to seal the deal. My guess is OGS has gone home to consider things and no doubt to consult with Uncle Fergie whilst Randy has popped home for the weekend. Tune in on Monday for the next episode (maybe)!
not when you are trying to get one of your primary targets, if not the primary target. You are about to trust this bloke with your money and your reputation which has taken a battering. You also know through research that he is settled where he is and has started a project so will need some convincing. You don't take risks and you go and see him face to face. Plus you'd have thought he has shown some interest already through Faulkner or whoever to entertain Randolph in the first place.
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Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Solskjaer": #avfc also have other candidates they want to talk to. I wanted to show #avfc respect as one of the big clubs of PL".
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Maybe OGS looked at the squad list and thought, fuck this.
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Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Solskjær": #avfc also have other candidates they want to talk to. I wanted to show #avfc respect as one of the big clubs of PL".
Seems odd, well may be getting excited over nothing then.
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Solskjær to Romsdals Budstikke: "I can confirm that I have spoken to #avfc. There were no negotiations, but an informal chat".
No negotiations but informal chat ? Clearly not the only target in that case i would presume and far from the done deal many have been saying .
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- I do not dealer with Aston Villa
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has spoken to Aston Villa, but is back in Norway now.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has spoken to Aston Villa, but is back in Norway now. Photo: ERIK BIRKELAND
Solskjaer back to Molde training Saturday
Published: 05/18/2012 at. 5:38 p.m., modified: 5/18/2012 at. 5:39 p.m.
By: Trond Hustad
MOLDE (rbnett): Ole Gunnar Solskjaer denies that he is near a deal to become manager of Aston Villa.
- I can confirm that I have spoken to Aston Villa. There were no negotiations, but first an informal chat. They also have other candidates they want to talk to, says Solskjaer to Romsdals Budstikke.
He traveled to England in Aston Villa's private jet Friday morning, with his advisor Jim Solbakken.
- I wanted to show respect for one of the big clubs in the Premier League by meeting their questions about the initial call, says Solskjaer.
He was a Friday afternoon back in Norway and will lead Molde team in Sunday's league game away against Sandnes Ulf.
- I am the manager of the MFK and have only had a casual conversation. There will be fighting preparatory training in Molde on Saturday and Sunday game normally, says Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
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Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Solskjær": #avfc also have other candidates they want to talk to. I wanted to show #avfc respect as one of the big clubs of PL".
Seems odd, well may be getting excited over nothing then.
What I am now thinking. Hopefully it's just caution rather than a sign of rejection.
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
This is what is irritating. Can't they just arrange an interview day or days to see all interested parties all in one week, rather than getting all excited about one candidate who then just blows us out?
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We next time he can book his own fucking plane over then.
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Lambert is a boring choice. I demand fast flowing football, pass & move. I don't think Lambert willl bring that.
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It may still happen of course, but I've got it into my head that I want Solskjaer to be our manager now and I'll be disappointed if he isn't.
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It may still happen of course, but I've got it into my head that I want Solskjær to be our manager now and I'll be disappointed if he isn't.
Perhaps he's waiting for the Liverpool call and their private jet to pick him up next week.
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
This is what is irritating. Can't they just arrange an interview day or days to see all interested parties all in one week, rather than getting all excited about one candidate who then just blows us out?
Careful, or youll have that old goat clampy on your back!
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Maybe OGS looked at the squad list and thought, fuck this.
yeah I can do miracles but they have Alan Hutton there .
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It may still happen of course, but I've got it into my head that I want Solskjær to be our manager now and I'll be disappointed if he isn't.
Perhaps he's waiting for the Liverpool call and their private jet to pick him up next week.
Is he collecting Air Miles?
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Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Solskjær": #avfc also have other candidates they want to talk to. I wanted to show #avfc respect as one of the big clubs of PL".
I likey!
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I don't think it is going to happen, which will be a massive shame.
Holt asking for a transfer at Norwich may well tip Lambert over the edge there.
An informal chat with no negotiations, it is a bloody expensive way to arrange an informal chat.
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It may still happen of course, but I've got it into my head that I want Solskjær to be our manager now and I'll be disappointed if he isn't.
Perhaps he's waiting for the Liverpool call and their private jet to pick him up next week.
Is he collecting Air Miles?
He'll have a free trip to Florida by the end of the month.
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
Hmmm, I'm not entirely sure that any club with aspirations to win anything would think 'What we'd better do is copy Lerner and Faulkner over at the Villa, they are shit hot at getting managers'
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I don't think people should be negative. I reckon they have informally shaken hands and it'll be made official Monday. We flew him over in a private jet? The 'informal discussions' comment is probably just politics to get him threw the league game over there.
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Is anyone else feeling echoes of Juninho flying in, getting everyone's hopes up, and then flying out again?
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
Hmmm, I'm not entirely sure that any club with aspirations to win anything would think 'What we'd better do is copy Lerner and Faulkner over at the Villa, they are shit hot at getting managers'
And who are the other candidates? Liverpool? Very much doubt that his united connections would go down well with their support. Chelsea won't either, and I'm not sure he'd consider managing anywhere else other than england, such is his connection with the place.
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I don't think it is going to happen, which will be a massive shame.
Holt asking for a transfer at Norwich may well tip Lambert over the edge there.
An informal chat with no negotiations, it is a bloody expensive way to arrange an informal chat.
See I'm skeptical on that, I just don't believe you fly someone over for an 'informal' discussion. I know Solskjaer said that, but it could just be the party line.
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
This is what is irritating. Can't they just arrange an interview day or days to see all interested parties all in one week, rather than getting all excited about one candidate who then just blows us out?
Maybe they could do some team exercises as well, building things out of pipe cleaners and plasticine, followed by a competency based interview around the core competencies of fast, flowing football, scoring from corners and not picking Emile Heskey.
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Is anyone else feeling echoes of Juninho flying in, getting everyone's hopes up, and then flying out again?
Not really.
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You don't send a private jet and also bring a candidate's wife along for preliminary talks.
You might not. I always send the jet to pick up those I might be working with. And their other half.
And I don't like people who don't.
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I'm with PaulWinch - this informal/preliminary talks could just be a white lie to get him through Molde's game on Sunday and keep us from getting too excited.
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And who are the other candidates? Liverpool? Very much doubt that his united connections would go down well with their support. Chelsea won't either, and I'm not sure he'd consider managing anywhere else other than england, such is his connection with the place.
According to the Man U forum he was a Liverpool fan as a kid. It's fair to say that they'd rather he came to B6 than go to Klanfield.
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Maybe Randy has gone back, because the deal is essentially sorted and Faulkner just needs to complete the formalities.
Now you've got me worried - Faulkner to complete the deal? Get Steve Stride in to sort it!
Keep calm and chive on!
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And who are the other candidates? Liverpool? Very much doubt that his united connections would go down well with their support. Chelsea won't either, and I'm not sure he'd consider managing anywhere else other than england, such is his connection with the place.
According to the Man U forum he was a Liverpool fan as a kid. It's fair to say that they'd rather he came to B6 than go to Klanfield.
He means villa have other candidates to speak to, not that there are other clubs after him.
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I'm with PaulWinch - this informal/preliminary talks could just be a white lie to get him through Molde's game on Sunday and keep us from getting too excited.
My thoughts also. He won't want any distractions for his Molde side's game. Christ, what a bunch of uptight fannies we have on this site. Relax...
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And who are the other candidates? Liverpool? Very much doubt that his united connections would go down well with their support. Chelsea won't either, and I'm not sure he'd consider managing anywhere else other than england, such is his connection with the place.
According to the Man U forum he was a Liverpool fan as a kid. It's fair to say that they'd rather he came to B6 than go to Klanfield.
He means villa have other candidates to speak to, not that there are other clubs after him.
I know.
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I fully expect to hear that villa have asked for permission to speak to lambert in the next few days, remember faulkner likes to do at least 2 interview processes with potential managers and ogs is just one of the candidates - not worried either way if ogs takes it or not, impressed with him but lets see who else is on the shortlist .
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Is anyone else feeling echoes of Juninho flying in, getting everyone's hopes up, and then flying out again?
Not really.
Well I am, and that's what's important.
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Is anyone else feeling echoes of Juninho flying in, getting everyone's hopes up, and then flying out again?
Not really.
Well I am, and that's what's important.
Nope- its not as if we are talking about mourinho or guardiola is it.
Liverpool are expecting to talk to up to 12 candidates, i expect we will be looking at 3 or 4 .
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Is anyone else feeling echoes of Juninho flying in, getting everyone's hopes up, and then flying out again?
Not really.
Well I am, and that's what's important.
Nope- its not as if we are talking about mourinho or guardiola is it.
Liverpool are expecting to talk to up to 12 candidates, i expect we will be looking at 3 or 4 .
It's not about the individual but the scenario. Couldn't the club have had held a conference call to discuss preliminary expressions of interest? Instead we have had the fanfare of private jets etc, followed by a damp squib.
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I fully expect to hear that villa have asked for permission to speak to lambert in the next few days, remember faulkner likes to do at least 2 interview processes with potential managers and ogs is just one of the candidates - not worried either way if ogs takes it or not, impressed with him but lets see who else is on the shortlist .
Sensible way to look at it eastie!
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I'd take either Solskjaer or Lambert.
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
This is what is irritating. Can't they just arrange an interview day or days to see all interested parties all in one week, rather than getting all excited about one candidate who then just blows us out?
Careful, or youll have that old goat clampy on your back!
Ahh, Eastie picks on me when plenty of other people have telling him the same thing all day.
Which as Eastie would say 'i fully expected'!
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Other candidates then,so why cant randy stay and interview the other candidates rather than keep flying back, my money for lambert is not blown after all, i suppose randy will return next week and we will seewho the next candidate will be - the plot thickens.
This is what is irritating. Can't they just arrange an interview day or days to see all interested parties all in one week, rather than getting all excited about one candidate who then just blows us out?
Careful, or youll have that old goat clampy on your back!
Ahh, Eastie picks on me when plenty of other people have telling him the same thing all day.
Which as Eastie would say 'i fully expected'!
Fully expected that reply clampy- best wishes , enjoy your weekend mate!
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It may still happen of course, but I've got it into my head that I want Solskjær to be our manager now and I'll be disappointed if he isn't.
Perhaps he's waiting for the Liverpool call and their private jet to pick him up next week.
Is he collecting Air Miles?
Air Miles, but Brian Flies
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i think we should take a look at that Brian Flies fella,
he could be the 'left side' 'outside the box' 'forward moving' 'fresh thinking' 'breath of fresh air' 'team building' sort of manager we are looking for
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Henry From would be an excellent choice as DoF.
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Rumours on Twitter that Randy has sent his private wheelbarrow to pick up Mick McCarthy.
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Rumours on Twitter that Randy has sent his private wheelbarrow to pick up Mick McCarthy.
Very good.
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This is a long thread. Did we ask this question yet: if OGS does get the job, who would his experienced assistant be and would they have to have MUFC connections?
Steve Clarke is available. Brian Kidd isn't. Carlos Q? Erm, others...?
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This is a long thread. Did we ask this question yet: if OGS does get the job, who would his experienced assistant be and would they have to have MUFC connections?
Steve Clarke is available. Brian Kidd isn't. Carlos Q? Erm, others...?
Possibly the people he has at Molde?
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This is a long thread. Did we ask this question yet: if OGS does get the job, who would his experienced assistant be and would they have to have MUFC connections?
Steve Clarke is available. Brian Kidd isn't. Carlos Q? Erm, others...?
It'd be whoever Solskjaer wants it to be.
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This is a long thread. Did we ask this question yet: if OGS does get the job, who would his experienced assistant be and would they have to have MUFC connections?
Steve Clarke is available. Brian Kidd isn't. Carlos Q? Erm, others...?
Steve Clarke isnt as Liverpool have rejected his resignation letter
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This is a long thread. Did we ask this question yet: if OGS does get the job, who would his experienced assistant be and would they have to have MUFC connections?
Steve Clarke is available. Brian Kidd isn't. Carlos Q? Erm, others...?
I heard liverpool rejected clarkes resignation.
If ogs arrives id expect him to bring his 2 ex united coaches with him who followed him over to molde.
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This is a long thread. Did we ask this question yet: if OGS does get the job, who would his experienced assistant be and would they have to have MUFC connections?
Steve Clarke is available. Brian Kidd isn't. Carlos Q? Erm, others...?
Possibly the people he has at Molde?
I mean that he would probably have someone with loads of FAPL experience to even out his lack of it.
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Norwegian journo:
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Aston Villa job the first Solskjaer has an interest in since signing for Molde. Blackburn, Porthmouth or Wolves were never going to happen.
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Solskjær was warned by Røkke not to travel to meet with #avfc. When he still left, Aker, a company owned by Røkke, pulled out of Molde
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Solskjær was warned by Røkke not to travel to meet with #avfc. When he still left, Aker, a company owned by Røkke, pulled out of Molde
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Røkke channels a lot of his support to Molde through Aker. With Akers support Molde can spend £9m a year - without approx £7m is left
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
@GreavesAVFC They are in a state of shock. Losing Solskjær (if it happens) is one thing, losing Aker-support something else.
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I am reading those tweets in my Wallander voice. Like Wallander I am a bit tired and need a piss
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Sorry is this essentially blackmail?!
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
...in true Villa fashion.
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I fully expect us to appoint someone absolutely shit now. Build hopes, shit on faces. It's the Villa way.
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
...in true Villa fashion.
Yep I'm sure noones ever heard of Solksjaer.
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Any other realistic appointment would just feel boring to me now.
I've really warmed to the idea of taking this sort of risk.
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Any other realistic appointment would just feel boring to me now.
I've really warmed to the idea of taking this sort of risk.
I'm in the same boat really. Obviously I'll support whoever we appoint, but I really want it to be Solskjaer.
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
...in true Villa fashion.
Yep I'm sure noones ever heard of Solksjaer.
When did he first get mentioned on here?
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I think it is clear that a vast majority of fans are really excited by the ideas of appointing Ole, he has something about him clearly. I sincerely hope we can twist his arm to come, but I fear with the pull of home and now his clubs backers blackmailing him, it is becoming very unlikely to happen.
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Any other realistic appointment would just feel boring to me now.
I've really warmed to the idea of taking this sort of risk.
me too. To replicate this kind of delirious voyage into the unknown they'd have to appoint Lynda Bellingham
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
...in true Villa fashion.
Yep I'm sure noones ever heard of Solksjaer.
When did he first get mentioned on here?
Matt Collins, 29/4/12 I believe.
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After it became clear we were approaching him. However that's the nature of football fans, they tend to look at who's done well in a high profile sense. Hence we were all talking about the likes of Rodgers and Lambert, as they've done well in the league we follow. I'd suspect that actual football clubs search a bit more extensively.
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After it became clear we were approaching him. However that's the nature of football fans, they tend to look at who's done well in a high profile sense. Hence we were all talking about the likes of Rodgers and Lambert, as they've done well in the league we follow. I'd suspect that actual football clubs search a bit more extensively.
The board searched more extensively last year that's for sure.
They appointed someone who hadn't done well in the league we follow.
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
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Hoping lambert will be next to be spoken to, i think we can discount martinez and rodgers , but i still think they will be talking to 3 or 4 candidates, nice of the board to keep us informed.
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i think we can discount martinez and rodgers
Oh yes? What gives you that impression?
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Rodgers ain't going to come here if he has said no to Liverpool, and Martinez clearly has his eggs in that basket. If they don't roost, do we want him still?
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i think we can discount martinez and rodgers
Oh yes? What gives you that impression?
If Rodgers has refused to talk to Liverpool you can discount him joining us and Martinez will wait until Liverpool make their mind up..........
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Ozz and spangley answered that one nicely!
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i think we can discount martinez and rodgers
Oh yes? What gives you that impression?
If Rodgers has refused to talk to Liverpool you can discount him joining us and Martinez will wait until Liverpool make their mind up..........
Perhaps Rodgers might see us as a good intermediate club to gain more experience before joining the big boys. I have always felt Martinez was awaiting an approach from a bigger club than Villa sadly.
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Quote:
"Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has not hidden the fact that one day he could think of returning to England. Nevertheless, Aker is surprising that he dropped Friday's workout, and headed to England in public for informal talks with Aston Villa before the three major league games in a week, "writes Aker in the press release.
I think bridges might have been burnt at Molde now.
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i think we can discount martinez and rodgers
Oh yes? What gives you that impression?
If Rodgers has refused to talk to Liverpool you can discount him joining us and Martinez will wait until Liverpool make their mind up..........
Perhaps Rodgers might see us as a good intermediate club to gain more experience before joining the big boys. I have always felt Martinez was awaiting an approach from a bigger club than Villa sadly.
He has stated he wants to continue seeing through the job he has started at swansea, he will not be leaving them .
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Arsey sponsors.
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i think we can discount martinez and rodgers
Oh yes? What gives you that impression?
If Rodgers has refused to talk to Liverpool you can discount him joining us and Martinez will wait until Liverpool make their mind up..........
Perhaps Rodgers might see us as a good intermediate club to gain more experience before joining the big boys. I have always felt Martinez was awaiting an approach from a bigger club than Villa sadly.
He has stated he wants to continue seeing through the job he has started at swansea, he will not be leaving them .
Please, less of the 'big boys' talk. We aint that little.
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Rokke was the nasty bugger who owned Wimbledon when they relocated to Milton Keynes.
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If Martinez and Rodgers are ignorant enough not to see us as a big team them fcuk them.
If OGS sees us as a challenge to put us back near the top - I'm happy for him to be given a chance.
If we refer to him as OGS he'll get on well with Dunne as scores lots of them!
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Rogers is only 39 himself, he may feel it's too early to join a club like Liverpool, he's got time on his side. Us on the other hand might suit him a bit better at this point. All that said, i'm not convinced he's the right man but the board might think differently.
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Not sure i would be happy with solskjaer, might be good if we keep our options open. Managers who have years of experience in the premier league struggle to get ahead in this league.
I wouldn`t be unhappy either though, i wanted a young manager who plays the passing game, but i would prefer martinez.
Obviously i would get behind him 100% if he came, i would be cautiously happy.
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After his 2005 conviction for corruption involving the illegal purchase of a boat licence, Røkke served 2425 days of a 120-day sentence in Hof Prison, and was subsequently released on parole.
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Not sure i would be happy with Solskjær, might be good if we keep our options open. Managers who have years of experience in the premier league struggle to get ahead in this league.
I wouldn`t be unhappy either though, i wanted a young manager who plays the passing game, but i would prefer martinez.
Obviously i would get behind him 100% if he came, i would be cautiously happy.
Take your coat off, you won't feel the benefit
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After his 2005 conviction for corruption involving the illegal purchase of a boat licence, Røkke served 24–25 days of a 120-day sentence in Hof Prison, and was subsequently released on parole.
Oh, the great Illegal Boat Licence Caper of 2005. The fabric of Norwegian society seemed to be falling apart
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After his 2005 conviction for corruption involving the illegal purchase of a boat licence, Røkke served 24–25 days of a 120-day sentence in Hof Prison, and was subsequently released on parole.
Oh, the great Illegal Boat Licence Caper of 2005. The fabric of Norwegian society seemed to be falling apart
Were you live reporting on that one? Is the reason for your lack of enthusiasm for the country? We need to get to the bottom of it Damon, I fear therapy may be needed.
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Rogers is only 39 himself, he may feel it's too early to join a club like Liverpool, he's got time on his side. Us on the other hand might suit him a bit better at this point. All that said, i'm not convinced he's the right man but the board might think differently.
He has said he is not interested in leaving swansea and wants to see the job through- he will not be coming here clampy.
Interesting that lambert on the other hand refused to commit himself when asked if he was staying at norwich - he is still an option i think.
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
...in true Villa fashion.
Yep I'm sure noones ever heard of Solksjaer.
When did he first get mentioned on here?
Im pretty sure I mentioned him after Houllier.
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I dont know who Rokke or Aker are...but if they are pulling sponsorship simply due to the possibility of OGS leaving then that doesnt say much for their integrity whoever they may be. If OGS is in contract then I'm sure Randy would put together a reasonable compensation package for Molde so hopefully OGS and the club will be comfortable if hes the man for the job.
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After his 2005 conviction for corruption involving the illegal purchase of a boat licence, Røkke served 24–25 days of a 120-day sentence in Hof Prison, and was subsequently released on parole.
Oh, the great Illegal Boat Licence Caper of 2005. The fabric of Norwegian society seemed to be falling apart
I think this was remade into a crime drama with that woman in the jumper.
The press raved about it.
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I reckon its near enough dead. If you really want the job you'll take it straight away and if Villa really want him they'd have offered it him straight away. Otherwise its a bit rum saying "well can you hold on and string you current employers along while we see if we can get our preferred choice?" Different matter if he was unemployed
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He might just have gone back as they have a game on Sunday to prepare for.
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I think if his departure is causing that many problems they'd probably want him out the club straight away rather than prolong it for a game
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I reckon its near enough dead. If you really want the job you'll take it straight away and if Villa really want him they'd have offered it him straight away. Otherwise its a bit rum saying "well can you hold on and string you current employers along while we see if we can get our preferred choice?" Different matter if he was unemployed
Positive as ever.
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And now we've tipped off anyone else looking for a good, young manager as to where they can find one!
...in true Villa fashion.
Yep I'm sure noones ever heard of Solksjaer.
When did he first get mentioned on here?
Im pretty sure I mentioned him after Houllier.
You did indeed. What drew your attention to him?
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Molde have 3 games in the next week so today was probably his only chance to pop over, as he said he came out of respect, but it seems talks were not very advanced and id expect them to call him back over if he makes the 2nd stage , i think there will be many twists and rumours before we seal the deal with anyone- randy has gone back home so i dont think much will happen before next week now.
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
So he has been interviewed then, not such an informal chat after all.
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
So he has been interviewed then, not such an informal chat after all.
That's actually a good point, hadn't noticed that. I also don't think Molde's investors would be so bent out of shape if it was just a chat.
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In response to DCF:
He was linked to the Portsmouth job so he must have got some press attention way back then (just after McLeish was appointed). Primarily I recall an article/interview (cant remember) wherein Ferguson was singing his praises about how hed sit on the bench (and lets face it he was on the bench a lot) and study the game, spotting opportunities. I think this could be seen in his game too, as he was all about movement and intelligence rather than any physical attributes.
Then you watch that MUTV youtube programme and Giggs and others are saying that you could see he was always planning for management. Even Rio the ego Ferdinand saying he wants to be his #2 if he goes into management.
None of the above means hed be a success of course I just feel that the likelihood increases if you are a real student/geek about the game rather than a chest thumping ex-player living off your playing reputation (of which Ole does quite well too).
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I wish they''d stop using the meaningless (in this context )vibrant/cy term, it just makes them sound like a bad hairspray advert. Must be Faulkner's new pet word.
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
Randy flew his private jet out to pick him and his wife up just to 'sound him out'?
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I reckon its near enough dead. If you really want the job you'll take it straight away and if Villa really want him they'd have offered it him straight away. Otherwise its a bit rum saying "well can you hold on and string you current employers along while we see if we can get our preferred choice?" Different matter if he was unemployed
OGS strikes me as a man with dignity and integrity, and he cant accept or decline a job if an offer hasnt been made yet. Interview processes for normal jobs can take weeks so to expect any news so early in discussions is unrealistic particularly if they want to sound other candidates.
If he is offered the job then I dont see why he wouldnt be able to continue in his current role until 28th May. It may turn out that we may not have a manager announced until after this date, and as long as they get the right man then thats the only thing thats important.
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
So he has been interviewed then, not such an informal chat after all.
That's actually a good point, hadn't noticed that. I also don't think Molde's investors would be so bent out of shape if it was just a chat.
Interview PROCESS is the keyword in that statement...where does it state that an "interview process" cant consist of informal chats, formal interview and negotiations particulalry when there a number of candidates to speak to. Do you really want them to offer the job to the first person they speak to???
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
Randy flew his private jet out to pick him and his wife up just to 'sound him out'?
They have 3 games in the next week, maybe today was the only time they could meet and randy arranged his flight , we usually do 2 rounds of interviews so it would make sense with ogs and the board saying he is one of the candidates and there will be others to be seen , the expense of picking him up by plane is loose change to lerner.
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
Randy flew his private jet out to pick him and his wife up just to 'sound him out'?
Yes I think it's all smoke and mirrors and he's probably been offered the job.
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yes please. premier league nous, respect of everyone in the english game. and one of my teenage heroes. and he isn't a mutant or a turtle.
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Personally I don't think it is which manager will say yes to poor old down at heel Aston Villa.
Randy Lerner is mega rich and every man has his price. Rather than OGS going home to think about it I think he has gone home while Randy thinks about it. If Lambert or Martinez or Rodgers had a big enough lump of money dangled under their noses they would take it regardless of who was dangling it. That's what I think.
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
Randy flew his private jet out to pick him and his wife up just to 'sound him out'?
Still i think it would near enough be done and dusted if he was coming. What he said afterwards were not really the words of someone who's about to leave his present club. I think they have a preferred choice but wanted possible alternatives after last year's balls-up. Could be wrong but thats my feeling
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I don't really see the point of that official club statement. What does it actually achieve? What are they trying to say?
Only thing I can think is they're aware of the storm kicking off in Molde and are covering their arses in some way.
Actually, that doesn't really make sense.
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He might just have gone back as they have a game on Sunday to prepare for.
And the fact that he lives over there might also be a good excuse for him to return.
It sounded like a lot of effort for just a 'formal chat'. I don't think he was expecting to be asked back to England so soon after he left, so maybe he's gone home to mull over it which would be understandable.
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He might just have gone back as they have a game on Sunday to prepare for.
And the fact that he lives over there might also be a good excuse for him to return.
It sounded like a lot of effort for just a 'formal chat'. I don't think he was expecting to be asked back to England so soon after he left, so maybe he's gone home to mull over it which would be understandable.
Also, look at the shit flying about over there now.
He's clearly come over against the wshes of their chairman and wouldn't confirm to him that he would be there at the end of the season.
He clearly wants the job and the bridges seem to be smouldering in Molde. I also doubt Lerner would bother coming over if it weren't likely to result in an appointment.
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Apparantly Sir Paul McCartney was asked today if he was upset about King Kenny getting the sack and he replied "yes of course"
When also asked if Ole Gunnar Solskjaer may join the Villa, Paul stated he thought the Norwegian Wood :)
I`ll get me coat !
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And maybe they are both telling the truth and he is one of several candidates at the beginning of a long process!
Are you trying to convince yourself paulie?
He clearly wants the job ? Says who? He says he spoke to villa out of respect and i think it will be maybe a couple of weeks before we get our man and i expect several to be spoken to- nothing clear yet!
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Not a bad technique for sounding out any other managers that might want the job.
Lambert might call us now rather than waiting for the phone to ring.
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Not a bad technique for sounding out any other managers that might want the job.
Lambert might call us now rather than waiting for the phone to ring.
I reckon we're talking to him already. Still reckon he's the favourite
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Not a bad technique for sounding out any other managers that might want the job.
Lambert might call us now rather than waiting for the phone to ring.
I reckon we're talking to him already. Still reckon he's the favourite
Yep me too, i think lambert will be the man.
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
So he has been interviewed then, not such an informal chat after all.
That's actually a good point, hadn't noticed that. I also don't think Molde's investors would be so bent out of shape if it was just a chat.
Interview PROCESS is the keyword in that statement...where does it state that an "interview process" cant consist of informal chats, formal interview and negotiations particulalry when there a number of candidates to speak to. Do you really want them to offer the job to the first person they speak to???
You are right, Process is the key word there, but you dont send a private jet for a candidate and his wife, just to invite him to an interview...
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Rogers is only 39 himself, he may feel it's too early to join a club like Liverpool, he's got time on his side. Us on the other hand might suit him a bit better at this point. All that said, i'm not convinced he's the right man but the board might think differently.
He has said he is not interested in leaving swansea and wants to see the job through- he will not be coming here clampy.
I did'nt say he would be coming here, i just suggested that if he did want to move on at this stage in his career, Villa might be a better option for him than Liverpool.
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My money is still on Curbishley.
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
Randy flew his private jet out to pick him and his wife up just to 'sound him out'?
Still i think it would near enough be done and dusted if he was coming. What he said afterwards were not really the words of someone who's about to leave his present club. I think they have a preferred choice but wanted possible alternatives after last year's balls-up. Could be wrong but thats my feeling
We were all fucked off with MON leaving 5 days before the season started, so why is it so hard to believe that with Molde having a game Sunday and then two more before they break on 28/5, that he wants to see that out rather than leave them in the lurch?
I don't bet, but if I did I'd be betting on Ole to be knew boss.
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Jan Aage Fjortoft @JanAageFjortoft
Dramatic development in Molde. The owner, Rökke, very angry because of Solskjær s trip to England. Withdrawing all his support and money
Jan Aage Fjortoft @JanAageFjortoft
The fight between Rökke and Solskjær here in Norway is like David Beckham and Sir Alex Ferguson s fight some years ago.Just missing the shoe
& he is, by the way "Retired footballer. Anchor on TV and Entrepreneur now. Tweets in english - just a few in norwegian."
Sounds pretty crazy right now for Molde.
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Sounds like Rokke has lost it. Come to Villa Ole you'll be loved here.
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Didnt someone say ages ago that they knew the man they wanted but had to wait, leading to the RDM and anyone in the playoffs rumours. Ole could fit into that category too and Villa want to do the right thing by Molde.
Lets face it, Villa did not reveal this to the press as far as I am aware. It was as a result of identifying his plane.
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He'd better bloody come as the lad and I have been practicing "Olleegunnarsolshar'sclaretnbluearmeee" for an hour now...
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Sounds like Rokke has lost it. Come to Villa Ole you'll be loved here.
Indeed. I can understand him being pissed off but his actions seem extreme to say the least.
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Still i think they're after someone else. they sounded him out but i think they'll pursue elsewhere first
Randy flew his private jet out to pick him and his wife up just to 'sound him out'?
Still i think it would near enough be done and dusted if he was coming. What he said afterwards were not really the words of someone who's about to leave his present club. I think they have a preferred choice but wanted possible alternatives after last year's balls-up. Could be wrong but thats my feeling
We were all fucked off with MON leaving 5 days before the season started, so why is it so hard to believe that with Molde having a game Sunday and then two more before they break on 28/5, that he wants to see that out rather than leave them in the lurch?
I don't bet, but if I did I'd be betting on Ole to be knew boss.
but if its all kicking off over there because he'd told them he wants to leave wouldn't they put him on gardening leave or the Norwegian version (reindeer herding mebbe) Pelty's comments the other day seems to suggest we shouldn't get too set on one candidate and again that latest club statement seems to be hint similarly that the choice is not set in stone on OGS
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
So he has been interviewed then, not such an informal chat after all.
That's actually a good point, hadn't noticed that. I also don't think Molde's investors would be so bent out of shape if it was just a chat.
Interview PROCESS is the keyword in that statement...where does it state that an "interview process" cant consist of informal chats, formal interview and negotiations particulalry when there a number of candidates to speak to. Do you really want them to offer the job to the first person they speak to???
You are right, Process is the key word there, but you dont send a private jet for a candidate and his wife, just to invite him to an interview...
You do if you are a multi-millionaire with a very tight time window to meet and speak to one of the candidates for a high profile job appointment especially if he currently resides in another country. Obviously it may have been quite impressive too from OGS point of view for Randy to do this for him and his wife.
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Ogs may have burnt his bridges at molde and had better hope he gets offered the villa job after this .
I still believe ogs is telling the truth and villa are telling the truth , this is the start of the process and if the likes of lambert or di matteo are interested then why not speak with them and then decide on the best candidate.
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It's a yes for me, it's a gamble I'm ok to support
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Sounds like we've caused a bit of a kerfuffle over there then.
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Jan Aage Fjortoft @JanAageFjortoft
Dramatic development in Molde. The owner, Rökke, very angry because of Solskjær s trip to England. Withdrawing all his support and money
Jan Aage Fjortoft @JanAageFjortoft
The fight between Rökke and Solskjær here in Norway is like David Beckham and Sir Alex Ferguson s fight some years ago.Just missing the shoe
& he is, by the way "Retired footballer. Anchor on TV and Entrepreneur now. Tweets in english - just a few in norwegian."
Sounds pretty crazy right now for Molde.
This Rokke bloke sounds like a right proper fucktard.
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someone is being economical with the truth though. You don't normally attended an 'interview' with your wife and agent justfor an informal chat and apparently, his agent is still here.
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Mysteryman reporting on another site that there are two others linked and appointment not imminent - Bull **** or Fact?
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Didnt someone say ages ago that they knew the man they wanted but had to wait, leading to the RDM and anyone in the playoffs rumours. Ole could fit into that category too and Villa want to do the right thing by Molde.
Lets face it, Villa did not reveal this to the press as far as I am aware. It was as a result of identifying his plane.
Dave W. I think...
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@TimothyAbraham: Just spoke to a colleague in Norway. It's all kicking off at Molde by the sounds of it - internal strife. Fascinating day. #AVFC
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well if its as bad as its sounds, i'm pretty sure if he's coming OGS wont be in charge for the next game or they'll kiss and make up before it. Sunday D-Day then.
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The Aston Villa board has embarked upon an interview process which will lead to the appointment of a new manager.
This process will be focused and consistent with the board's objectives which are to secure a manager who can help to reinvigorate the club and bring some vibrancy back to Villa.
We are aware that certain individuals have been linked with our managerial vacancy but, out of respect to all potential candidates and any clubs they may currently be employed by, we will not discuss specific individuals by name.
We will update supporters when we have more news.
So he has been interviewed then, not such an informal chat after all.
That's actually a good point, hadn't noticed that. I also don't think Molde's investors would be so bent out of shape if it was just a chat.
Interview PROCESS is the keyword in that statement...where does it state that an "interview process" cant consist of informal chats, formal interview and negotiations particulalry when there a number of candidates to speak to. Do you really want them to offer the job to the first person they speak to???
You are right, Process is the key word there, but you dont send a private jet for a candidate and his wife, just to invite him to an interview...
You do if you are a multi-millionaire with a very tight time window to meet and speak to one of the candidates for a high profile job appointment especially if he currently resides in another country. Obviously it may have been quite impressive too from OGS point of view for Randy to do this for him and his wife.
I would say today was interview one, so its either a case of we will be in touch or interview two is early next week.
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OGS appears to have pissed off the powers that be at Molde FK
http://fotball.rbnett.no/eliteserien/article237152.ece
(page translated using Chrome)
Chairman Øystein Neerland says that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's conduct in relation to Aston Villa has been a disappointment for the club.
Neerland confirms that the club was informed about the contact with the Premier League club, but are not satisfied with the way the case has been handled.
- We were made aware of the interest and the conversations, but it was still a disappointment that he chose to travel to England on Friday to face Aston Villa now, says Neerland to Romsdals Budstikke.
- It is fair to say that this has been a disappointing day. This we would like to do without, says Leif-Arne Langøy Molde Football.
- Considering no termination. Neerland states that the club reacts to that Solskjaer before departure failed to respond to specific questions from the MFK is the intent of the talks in Birmingham.
- It seems we do not know anything about. The trust is put to the test, and we have to get back again before we work on. We expect that there will be a constructive conversation with Ole Gunnar Saturday, said Neerland.
- Have MFK considered Solskjaer position after what happened the last few days?
- No, it has not been an issue on the board. Now we will take this worry within the club and explore the situation. So we will work hard on to focus on the sport. There are three important games before the holiday and the first is already Sunday, says Øystein Neerland.
http://fotball.rbnett.no/eliteserien/article237106.ece
Lars Tjærnås think Villa-job may be too tempting for Ole Gunnar Solskjaer to stay in Molde.
Earlier this week kicked Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish, and now they have jumped on the Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as possible substitutes.
Molde management confirmed earlier today that Aston Villa have been given permission to talk to Molde manager - who thus may be the next commander in Birmingham club.
But 100% Sports expert, Lars Tjærnås, I think the list is high that Solskjaer leaves Molde now - and that Villa's management has a job to do to convince him.
- The offer from Aston Villa can be too tempting not to jump on, but I think it is an important prerequisite for Solskjaer says yes: He must be convinced by Randy Lerner (Aston Villa owner) that it is funding and backing to he can realize the ambitions of the owner , said Tjærnås to adressa.no.
Tjærnås believe there are other things Solskjaer must be verified before taking the job in England.
- He must be convinced that this is a long term project, and that he has the freedom and backing to form the club, not only shape the team. Then it may become a reality, and for Norwegian football, there will obviously be phenomenal, even though people in Molde do not feel that way right now, he said.
But Tjærnås are not convinced that Solskjaer disappears.
- He could have chosen differently before he moved home and have always been firm that this is and was a choice for a long time - both for its own and the family part. I see him as a lagbygger, a person who keep their word and are committed to building a foundation over time. He has a free hand to Molde. Moreover, it is tempting to see if he can take this project one step further in Europe.
- On the way, he's still a chance to achieve a further improvement in the job he has. All this suggests that it takes a lot for that he chooses something else, says Tjærnås.
Aware that Aston Villa might be just, this is "very much".
- The time of taking over is perfect. Aston Villa is a "sleeping giant" with a large pent potential. The new manager coming in is almost certainly a journey. That way he gets the experience from a tough league, while almost certainly even a "gold star" on your CV.
http://fotball.rbnett.no/eliteserien/article237119.ece
Sjur Hogne Bakke lives in Molde and cheering at Aston Villa. Too bad for the Molde for Solskjaer go but good for Aston Villa, he said
Supporter Sjur Hogne Bakke believe and hope He will the club's new manager.
Bakke, who has been with the Birmingham club since the early 1980's, is excited about MFK manager is presented Aston Villa's new manager in the near future. After a leaden sporting year, with a coach who never catch on with fans, he says Solskjaer had been a great person to get into the club.
- After a terrible time with Alex McLeish, who took away all the good that Martin O 'Neill had added the club had Solskjaer been an interesting man for Villa. He had been a good symbol for a new start, a new era of proactive thinking and fresh ideas, says Bakke Rbnett.
Solid Youth Academy
He is impressed with the manager has achieved in MFK since he took over the club, and have been particularly impressed with the work he has done with the young players.
- Solskjaer has shown an ability to get the best out of their players, especially the young. It's perfect for Aston Villa, which has one of the best youth academies in England , he said.
For the time being, it is unclear whether Solskjaer continues in MFK or end up in the Premier League, but the gut feeling of Bakke says that he changes pastures.
- It's a shame for the MFK, but great for Villa, he said.
Surprised by the interest
Chairman of Aston Villa supporter, Thor Karlsen Skjelstad, has received many calls about the club's interest Solskjaer-the last day. He admits he was surprised.
- I must say I was little with my pants down. I had not believed that this would happen, but it can be exciting , he said.
If Solskjaer would end up in the Birmingham club, Skjelstad think he will be well received by fans.
- I'm pretty sure. It can not be a worse year than we have just had, and I'm sure he would never jump on something like that if he did not feel ready for the task, he said.
- Given their little finger
At the moment Aston Villa Supporters Club of Norway about 450 members. If the former storscoreren and Champions League hero from Kristiansund taking over the club, think Skjelstad there are many more Norwegian supporters.
- It can make a great impact on the interest, yes. Solskjaer has a bit of a name here in Norway , he said.
Currently awaiting the Chairman in anticipation for what's going on.
- When the aircraft come and fetch him, he must have given them little finger. Otherwise they could not, he concludes.
Latest news now is that the plane took off from Kvernberget has landed in Birmingham.
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I would say it was made to look like interview one, interview two has already taken place.
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The little finger indeed.......
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"- I must say I was little with my pants down. I had not believed that this would happen, but it can be exciting , he said."
I love google translate ;D
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i've been down the pubb, come home and just bread that tramscript that 'what the meck' posted, and mts fatasctic
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My ferry is full of eels
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Sounds like their owner has spat his dummy out. It's all kicking off over there now.
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Sounds like their owner has spat his dummy out. It's all kicking off over there now.
yeah. "If you leave Ole, I'll pull the plug on funding the club". Emotional blackmail or what?
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My ferry is full of eels
That could also be "my kayak is infested with lampreys"?
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My longboat is left paddling with prawns...
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The Wallander voice in my head is getting a thorough workout tonight
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Is he about to pledge his future to Molde ?
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but if its all kicking off over there because he'd told them he wants to leave wouldn't they put him on gardening leave or the Norwegian version (reindeer herding mebbe) Pelty's comments the other day seems to suggest we shouldn't get too set on one candidate and again that latest club statement seems to be hint similarly that the choice is not set in stone on OGS
Not sure how it works, but maybe their intent is to convince him to stay, which wouldn't happen if they put him on leave?
If he wants to come, but is trying to do right by Molde up until 28/5, then I wouldn't expect anything different from the club statement.
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Røkke will cut all funding to the club reports newspaper Dagbladet.
The Aker Group, owned by Røkke, will not provide transfer funds for new players and will end its ownership of Molde FK at the end of the season. He said "Solskjaer went to talk to Aston Villa without my permission"
Eva Britt Mauseth, head of Molde's supporter association reckons there is a failure on all sides:
"Molde FK gave Solskjaer too much freedom, which means Solskjaer believes he can do whatever he wants. There is error on the part of the manager in that he failed to talk enough. There is poor communication, pure and simple."
"An informal chat [between manager and owner] did take place, so this issue could have been resolved the issue".
Remind you of anyone?
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Solskjaer: - I do not regret anything
Share your meningDel on FacebookDel on TwitterOle Gunnar Solskjaer talked to Aston Villa on Friday, which was not well received by Aker and Røkke. Reuters
Solskjaer left because he was ok from the MFK.
Published: 05/18/2012 at. 10:26 p.m., modified: 5/18/2012 at. 10:29 p.m.
By: Trond Hustad
MOLDE (Rbnett): Ole Gunnar Solskjaer shelves Kjell Inge Røkke contribution to MFK, but do not regret that he traveled to England.
Solskjaer was Friday night back in Norway after the visit to Birmingham, where he had a conversation with the management of Aston Villa. After a long day of dramatic news he speaks out.
Read all the cases of the last days of Solskjaer drama here.
- The first thing I would say is that it Røkke has done for Molde Football Club is wonderful. It is he who built the club to what it is today, says Solskjaer to Romsdals Budstikke.
Called to Røkke
He had absorbed the news that Aker will not cover 20-25 million in planned deficit for the season.
- That Røkke and Aker has taken a decision to go out of Molde Football, giving the club a new challenge that the organization is definitely ready to take. The club is well run and has a very good starting point. We will show that we can continue to drive sensibly and achieve good results and success.
- What do you think of that Aker attract the financial support because of that you went to England to Røkke will?
- In case of sin. I spoke with Kjell Inge on Monday, he was the first one I called when this appeared. Villa had made a request and would talk to me. I thought it was important that Kjell Inge heard it, said Solskjaer.
On Saturday training
He informed Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen Wednesday and said he had accepted to talk to Aston Villa.
- I said a flat no to many requests that have come to my contacts, both clubs who play in the Premier League next season and will play in the Champions League. But Aston Villa are a big club that I think it was right to talk to them.
- If you take the criticism some of the things that has happened, something that could have been resolved differently?
- No, not initially. It was agreed with MFK that I could talk to them and they set up a plane for me to get the most time to prepare for Sunday's game. I could have been scheduled and more discreet, but it would take too long in relation to Sandnes Ulf, says Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
- So you're MFK manager and plans to be the future?
- I have spoken to Aston Villa. I'm not offered anything and have not negotiated anything. I am a richer experience, and I will exercise in Molde on Saturday. I have two years left on my contract, says Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
We are following developments:
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"- I must say I was little with my pants down. I had not believed that this would happen, but it can be exciting , he said."
I love google translate ;D
Actually, for once Google Translate did a good job. That quote seems just as ridiculous in Norwegian. :)
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"- I must say I was little with my pants down. I had not believed that this would happen, but it can be exciting , he said."
I love google translate ;D
Actually, for once Google Translate did a good job. That quote seems just as ridiculous in Norwegian. :)
lol, thats awesome.
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My favourite bit:-
(page translated using Chrome)
Earlier this week kicked Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish,
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Solskjær interview by NRK:
- I can confirm that I have spoken to Aston Villa. There were no negotiations, but first an informal chat. They also have other candidates they want to talk to...
(Mysteryman correlates this bit of info..)
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Ole Gunnar Solskjær and his family still have their house in Manchester.
From their home, it will take about a half hour drive to Aston Villa's training ground in Birmingham. It is about as long as Solskjær has [got used to, going] from Kristiansund to Molde.
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Am I missing something here? On the official Molde FC website it said the club had given OGS permission to speak to us. OGS spoke to us and now all hell is breaking loose with funding withdrawn? Is this a Molde fuck up (ie didn't ask sugar daddy for his permission?).
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Half an hour from Manchester? I'd love to know what kind of mileage he is getting
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What part of Manchester is 30 min drive to BH ;D
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Half an hour from Manchester? I'd love to know what kind of mileage he is getting
Heh, heh! Obviously hour and a half - and that's without getting stopped!
Or he has high hopes for HS2. Looking towards a long term future with us.
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What part of Manchester is 30 min drive to BH ;D
Maybe OGS is expecting daily use of the private jet?
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No chance is he going to come now. I think we will have to move on, it is a shame the board did not firm up an offer (that we know of)
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Real shame this has fallen through
I'd convinced myself he was going to be a major success despite being a big gamble
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Am I missing something here? On the official Molde FC website it said the club had given OGS permission to speak to us. OGS spoke to us and now all hell is breaking loose with funding withdrawn? Is this a Molde fuck up (ie didn't ask sugar daddy for his permission?).
Sounds like he's (the owner) looking for a reason to get out.
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So, their owner says to OGS: if you join Villa I will cut all spending on Molde, whilst ours says to OGS: join from Molde because I have cut all spending on Villa. Neat irony.
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Real shame this has fallen through
I'd convinced myself he was going to be a major success despite being a big gamble
Do you know something we don't?
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I don't think this is dead yet.
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Real shame this has fallen through
I'd convinced myself he was going to be a major success despite being a big gamble
Do you know something we don't?
Sorry no, just assumed this imminent statement from OGS would be him committing to Molde
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Why would Solskjaer give a shit if the owner refuses to put any more money into the club? He wouldn't be there
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Real shame this has fallen through
I'd convinced myself he was going to be a major success despite being a big gamble
Do you know something we don't?
Do you know anything Dave?
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Some lovely places to live in the WM.
I'm not dismissing this on estate agents' valuations, or the AA inter-city mileage estimate, just yet.
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So if Ole leaves the Owner pulls the pin on the entire Club.
What a lovely bloke he must be.
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Calm down fellas. When was the last time a tiny tenth rate club bullied a large FAPL club?
Oh right, I see, Villa are now regarded as that weak, due to taking SHA's crap manager and grovelling around paying dodgy owners compensation. Yes, probably.
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Redknapp spends five hours a day driving from Sandbanks to Chigwell and back.
Mind you, he's a psychopathic criminal
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Sorry, 'well-loved character'
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Real shame this has fallen through
I'd convinced myself he was going to be a major success despite being a big gamble
Do you know something we don't?
Do you know anything Dave?
As much as anyone.
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Real shame this has fallen through
I'd convinced myself he was going to be a major success despite being a big gamble
Do you know something we don't?
Do you know anything Dave?
As much as anyone.
Fair enough
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Redknapp spends five hours a day driving from Sandbanks to Chigwell and back.
Mind you, he's a psychopathic criminal
Merely corrupt, surely?!
He did not torture and murder Peter Crouch in Portsmouth. Even though he should have done.
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I do like the way he talks about our club in his interview mind.
Rejected approaches from soon-to-be PL clubs and CL playing clubs but felt he had to talk to a club as big as us.
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Those pliers were a gift.
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I fully expect OGS to be our manager, just a matter of timing now. Informal chats are done on the phone, too much effort has gone into it.
Why drag the missus over for an informal chat. He's obviously going to leave her over here to get the house clean for when they move back over.
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Is he about to pledge his future to Molde ?
He should consider his options first.
I'd have a go with bleach and a scrubbing brush and see if that does the trick.
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No chance is he going to come now. I think we will have to move on, it is a shame the board did not firm up an offer (that we know of)
thats the spirit, put the boot in (you think) Wankers! runs off not sure if they are or not????
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Love Damon's 'arry assessment, have to concur, would love Ole Gunnar to come to Villa, Holloway to leave Wessam and the porn bros in the lower league with noses , Sam to Baggies as a result of failure to play the wessamwayye, and Chelski win the Big cup thus leaqvin 'arry inthe euro mouse cup again, but especially Ole' to VP.
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Molde have called a presser for tomorrow after training.
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I'd be very happy.
(In the spirit of the thread)
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A trouser presser?
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He's saying that he was asked to come over, that we've got other names on the list and he's got two years on his contract. He also says that he's turned down other approaches, he's gained experience from Molde and Sirrallix told him to speak to other clubs. That sounds to me like he's ready to move on.
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Guess it'll all be cleared up tomorrow in regards to Solskjær.
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Wasn't there a suggestion (amongst plenty of other speculation) that we had sounded Di Matteo out a while back?
Maybe OGS is the contingency for Di Matteo remaining at Chelsea.
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Ole Gunnar Solskjær has said that he was already approached by Aston Villa on Monday.
Solskjær told Molde if he wanted to go on Wednesday and that he got the go-ahead from the club to go to Birmingham for talks with club owner Randy Lerner at Aston Villa.
Røkke was also told this by the Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen.
When it came to Røkke's decision to withdraw [financial] support from Molde, Solskjær said that he believes this would have happened regardless of whether there was interest from Villa or not.
NRK Sport
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Sounds like I'm the only one on here not that excited by taking a chance on a unproven young coach from the Norwegian league.
Fergie loves him so that's a good omen, right?
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Ole Gunnar Solskjær has said that he was already approached by Aston Villa on Monday.
Solskjær told Molde if he wanted to go on Wednesday and that he got the go-ahead from the club to go to Birmingham for talks with club owner Randy Lerner at Aston Villa.
Røkke was also told this by the Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen.
When it came to Røkke's decision to withdraw [financial] support from Molde, Solskjær said that he believes this would have happened regardless of whether there was interest from Villa or not.
NRK Sport
Rokke is just using this as an excuse. And if he is pulling the backing there is no reason to stay, except, this is OGS home town club and it does a huge amount for the community by the looks of it. Big blackmail
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Now that Fergie selects all of our managers and puppeteers Randy, we can relax on that annual issue of whogonnamanage.
OGS or Bruce, Scholes with Bruce, Giggs with Bruce, Mark Hughes, David & Brooklyn Beckham, Brooklyn Beckham OBE and the next youngest one, Darren Ferguson, Danny Welbeck....
Oh sod it, I will be too old to care after that. Carrick, probably.
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9:45am for the Molde press conference.
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It could just be about Rokke pulling his funding.
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Sounds like I'm the only one on here not that excited by taking a chance on a unproven young coach from the Norwegian league.
Fergie loves him so that's a good omen, right?
Same here, if he had done wel in The Championship then fair enough, I think this is too big a jump.
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Wasn't there a suggestion (amongst plenty of other speculation) that we had sounded Di Matteo out a while back?
Maybe OGS is the contingency for Di Matteo remaining at Chelsea.
Spoke to some Albion fans about Di Matteo, they wouldn't want him back, said he'd totally lost the plot by the end of his stay there. I think in all honesty he's done little at Chelsea other than revert to the tried & tested players / system that suits what they have. AVB had lost the battle against the senior pros, he's just given them the power back.
The more infighting there is at Molde the more likely that OGS will come to us.
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I think Di Matteo would be a very bad decision, I think after Chelsea he would look on us like he did Olbyon.
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Even if Randy did offer him the job today, he couldn't formally accept as he is still under contract to Molde. OGS would have to tender his resignation and Molde accept it (with the usual agreement on compensation). He would then be free to formally accept an offer from Villa.
Could well see all parties back together in Birmingham on Monday (depending on conclusion of the above) with a press conference Monday afternoon.
For Villa to have made contact on Monday, we have obviously done our homework and concluded that he is the number one target. Surely they must have learnt something from last year about interviewing candidates under the scrutiny of the fans/media. I cannot imagine his wife came over for a day out.
I am only speculating but I expect OGS to be our manager by 5pm Monday.
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
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it's the weekend and maybe he wants to be with his kids and flip some burgers in the warm Cleveland pollution. I'm sure his entire life isn't Villa.
The lucky bastard. Its all I can think about at the moment and I need to revise for my last exam of the year.
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
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I posted the other day about Di matteo (based on and WBA itk) that's he would be a disaster, glad others agree.
He's only done well at Chelski by bending firmly over and letting the senior memepbers back in the riding room
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
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He wouldn't feature on my want list, at all. I don't think it's his appointment that led Chelsea to reaching a CL final.
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
As definite as you can be. I think.
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
As definite as you can be. I think.
Thank god for that!
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
He has done well in the cups but in the PL AVB did slightly better. I just get the feeling that players carried the team through to the end of the season.
I didn't realise that he applied for the Birmingham job last year and that is why he ended up as assistant manager at Chelsea.
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I just hope for OGS's sake that he is our first choice otherwise he could find himself out of a job and nowhere to go through no fault of his own
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
As definite as you can be. I think.
Dave, are you aware of the so called other targets, names, your thoughts?
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
As definite as you can be. I think.
Dave, are you aware of the so called other targets, names, your thoughts?
My opinion, with nothing behind it other than one or two hastily-canvassed opinions, is that he's our top target and there are others on the list should he turn the job down.
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
As definite as you can be. I think.
Dave, are you aware of the so called other targets, names, your thoughts?
My opinion, with nothing behind it other than one or two hastily-canvassed opinions, is that he's our top target and there are others on the list should he turn the job down.
I can't help thinking that one of the names might be Ian Holloway. ITK on other forums reckon a manager with three initials is definitely on the list? FSW, AVB etc I hope it's not RDM as in Matteo.
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Or you know Ole Gunnar Solskjær.
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Or you know Ole Gunnar Solskjær.
Did you actually read the other bits in the conversation flow? Please do, that way you don't look so stupid.
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
Definitely?
As definite as you can be. I think.
Dave, are you aware of the so called other targets, names, your thoughts?
My opinion, with nothing behind it other than one or two hastily-canvassed opinions, is that he's our top target and there are others on the list should he turn the job down.
I can't help thinking that one of the names might be Ian Holloway. ITK on other forums reckon a manager with three initials is definitely on the list? FSW, AVB etc I hope it's not RDM as in Matteo.
Or you know Ole Gunnar Solskjær.
Let's see. You suggest that some ITK's are saying we're going to consider a manager with three initials. I replied with the name of a man we've approached, who has three initials.
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Summers, there are said to be OTHER names on the list, one also has a three initial name apparently, according to the supposed ITK. For example AVB etc. We were talking (typing) about other candidates, not OGS. Don't worry, I'm sure this'll work out for the best and OSG will be our new Manager!
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Summers, there are said to be OTHER names on the list, one also has a three initial name apparently, according to the supposed ITK. For example AVB etc. We were talking (typing) about other candidates, not OGS. Don't worry, I'm sure this'll work out for the best and OSG will be our new Manager!
AVB? Unless that stand for Aston Villa Bartender, no chance!
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now now ladies. Its a pointless arguement. all these ITK's that appear at times like these are probably on a wind up or a bit sad. Unless you're very careless its very hard to be proven wrong if you're mysteryman or his like
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True enough Greg.
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If the ITK about another candidate having 3 initials is right, I hope it is AVB. Sure it would be ambitious but he fits our profile of a young, ambitious manager and after it didn't work out at Chelsea I would imagine his ego would have taken a hit and he would be desperate to prove that he could do a good job in the Premier League. I know he's been linked to Italian jobs but surely the Premier League would have a greater draw? At least the candidates seem to all be from a good pool this time around.
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Kim Jong-Un? He's got three initials and I think he'd be a Supreme Leader.
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Oh Christ, I've just had a thought. HDE.
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..ITK on other forums reckon a manager with three initials is definitely on the list? ...
Well I guess that rules out a member of the royal family. And interestingly enough puts most members of this forum in the running.
The plot thickens.
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Oh Christ, I've just had a thought. HDE.
Before SGT II I thought that was going to happen.
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3 initials
SGE
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My ferry is full of eels
No further comments yhonour.
best manager hunt EVER!
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Oh Christ, I've just had a thought. HDE.
No, he's now SHDE so too many initials. Possibly BFS or PDC?
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449 positive votes for Ole.. desperate I know..But yes I'll go with that! Ole ole ole!
Anyone but mickmac..
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This may be wandering into conspiracy theory territory, but I'm beginning to think that the heirarchy may have actually learnt their lesson from last summer and may be trying a different approach. Say Solskjaer is on their list of potential managers, but is the least favourite of all the candidates. By interviewing him first they have at least ascertained if their "go-to" man (if they fail with their bids for other candiadates) is interested and at the same time have sent a message to other parties that there is definite interest in the job from a high profile figure in the world of football. Any interested manager would surely now have to come forward before the opportunity is gone.
Of course the above could well be fantasy, but the developments of today and the rumours about meeting with Lambert on Monday suggest something is afoot.
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Lets hope they have improved over last years process.
If I didnt know better it appeared like they met down the pub scratching their heads thinking f a manager while having a few pints and on the way out to the car park bumped into Alex McLeish. "Ehhhyy lads, I gotta idea! Alex come here mate, what you up to these days?"
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This may be wandering into conspiracy theory territory, but I'm beginning to think that the heirarchy may have actually learnt their lesson from last summer and may be trying a different approach. Say Solskjær is on their list of potential managers, but is the least favourite of all the candidates. By interviewing him first they have at least ascertained if their "go-to" man (if they fail with their bids for other candiadates) is interested and at the same time have sent a message to other parties that there is definite interest in the job from a high profile figure in the world of football. Any interested manager would surely now have to come forward before the opportunity is gone.
Of course the above could well be fantasy, but the developments of today and the rumours about meeting with Lambert on Monday suggest something is afoot.
That one falls down on the basis that Ole seems to have become more popular than Lambert. I'm certain that he's the number one choice.
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This may be wandering into conspiracy theory territory, but I'm beginning to think that the heirarchy may have actually learnt their lesson from last summer and may be trying a different approach. Say Solskjær is on their list of potential managers, but is the least favourite of all the candidates. By interviewing him first they have at least ascertained if their "go-to" man (if they fail with their bids for other candiadates) is interested and at the same time have sent a message to other parties that there is definite interest in the job from a high profile figure in the world of football. Any interested manager would surely now have to come forward before the opportunity is gone.
Of course the above could well be fantasy, but the developments of today and the rumours about meeting with Lambert on Monday suggest something is afoot.
That one falls down on the basis that Ole seems to have become more popular than Lambert. I'm certain that he's the number one choice.
As I said Dave, just a bit of a conspiracy theory. If Ole is the number one choice and both parties are happy, do you think they will bother with interviewing any more candidates?
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If we dont offer it to OGS now then I think we will make an enemy of him. He wont be available again for us. We have (accidentally) caused a pretty major wound with him and his current club.
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That's not the Villa fault though. I think this if anything will drive a wedge between OGS and their owners - it's basically blackmail, you stay or we'll ruin the Club.
What kind of a working relationship is that to move forward with!
A bit like when Stevie G was talking to Chelsea and those wonderful supporters of theirs put the frighteners on his family - nice!
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If the ITK about another candidate having 3 initials is right, I hope it is AVB. Sure it would be ambitious but he fits our profile of a young, ambitious manager and after it didn't work out at Chelsea I would imagine his ego would have taken a hit and he would be desperate to prove that he could do a good job in the Premier League. I know he's been linked to Italian jobs but surely the Premier League would have a greater draw? At least the candidates seem to all be from a good pool this time around.
Does MO'N count as 3 initials?
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BFS certainly does and we have been told that no decision will be made until after the play offs so perhaps West Ham's young, dynamic manager is on his way.
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I've thought about this and of all the options mentioned i would have Martin O'Neill back. It obviously won't happen but there won't be the excitement and anticipation this time like when he was appointed in 2006.
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Whoever we get as manager the thing I am convinced of is OGS is now finished at Molde, the rift is to deep for repair,
I wouldn't be surprised if he quit soon no matter of a job offer or not
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I just wish Sir Alex would hurry up and decide who we're having as manager.
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BFS certainly does and we have been told that no decision will be made until after the play offs so perhaps West Ham's young, dynamic manager is on his way.
not even in jest !
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I think Rokke is just playing the game known as Billionaire's Conkers. It's where extremely rich and powerful men compete by flaunting their wealth and power.
Randy went to the Private-Jet-parked-on-your-runway straight away. Rokke has countered by threatening to destroy his own football club on a whim.
Randy is better at this game
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If the ITK about another candidate having 3 initials is right, I hope it is AVB. Sure it would be ambitious but he fits our profile of a young, ambitious manager and after it didn't work out at Chelsea I would imagine his ego would have taken a hit and he would be desperate to prove that he could do a good job in the Premier League. I know he's been linked to Italian jobs but surely the Premier League would have a greater draw? At least the candidates seem to all be from a good pool this time around.
Does MO'N count as 3 initials?
T-W-A-T? No, it has four.
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I've thought about this and of all the options mentioned i would have Martin O'Neill back. It obviously won't happen but there won't be the excitement and anticipation this time like when he was appointed in 2006.
Might have this wrong, but I am surprised and pleased by the level of support and excitement for OGS actually, and think it has captured a lot of peoples imagination.
And I would not want MON back if he were were paying us for the privilege. He has screwed us over once. Lets not contemplate him doing it again. Dire home football too. Noooo sir not again.
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I'm vocally excited by the prospect by OGS potentially being our manager, but I'd still prefer Lambert I think.
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I've thought about this and of all the options mentioned i would have Martin O'Neill back. It obviously won't happen but there won't be the excitement and anticipation this time like when he was appointed in 2006.
There wont be the same level of financial loss either after throwing countless millions for no better than 6th and zero trophies.
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..ITK on other forums reckon a manager with three initials is definitely on the list? ...
Well I guess that rules out a member of the royal family. And interestingly enough puts most members of this forum in the running.
The plot thickens.
It's me isn't it. I hadn't given it any thought but thinking about it I did have a voicemail yesterday from someone with an American accent asking if I could meet him and his Chief Executive, Mr Smithers on Monday
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..ITK on other forums reckon a manager with three initials is definitely on the list? ...
Well I guess that rules out a member of the royal family. And interestingly enough puts most members of this forum in the running.
The plot thickens.
It's me isn't it. I hadn't given it any thought but thinking about it I did have a voicemail yesterday from someone with an American accent asking if I could meet him and his Chief Executive, Mr Smithers on Monday
You should call Dave Whelan. He always likes to be the first to know.
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What style of football do Molde play?
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What style of football do Molde play?
Passing. Long balls and mindless crossing are not allowed, passing and moving through the opposition is the philosophy. Oh and to "fucking shoot", which Ole seems to have a good go at his players for not doing!
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What's wrong with crossing?
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I pray to God one of the candidates isn't RDM
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What's wrong with crossing?
Mindless. Not throwing the ball in the box for the sake of it.
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What's wrong with crossing?
Nothing if you have players that can do it
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Well if you mean crap crossing well yes, but there is nowt wrong with a well delivered cross from anywhere. We've a 20m striker who thrives on them.
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What's wrong with crossing?
Nothing if you have players that can do it
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Well if you mean crap crossing well yes, but there is nowt wrong with a well delivered cross from anywhere. We've a 20m striker who thrives on them.
He also thrives on through balls due to his movement.
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Why are we getting excited about a chap who manages a team in the Norwegian league at best equal to League 1 in England? Or Fergie adivising us on this one as well?
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Glad to see that a few others have their doubts about Di Matteo.
There's no way we'll go for him.
I do hope not.
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Because he has massive potential, plays the game properly and excites after the previous appointments. Also screws over the media who won't be able to ignore us or worse still disrespect us like they have recently. It's a yes to OGS from me
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My concern is RDM will be out of work next week after they get battered tonight
Please Lerner do not be sucked in by RDM
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Why are we getting excited about a chap who manages a team in the Norwegian league at best equal to League 1 in England? Or Fergie adivising us on this one as well?
Because he has that unmistakable, difficult to fake air of a winner about him and his team play intelligent, attractive football
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Why are we getting excited about a chap who manages a team in the Norwegian league at best equal to League 1 in England? Or Fergie adivising us on this one as well?
From my point:
I'm excited as it's an avenue I didn't expect us to explore. It's a brave move and should be applauded.
If this appointment happens I reckon it will open new doors in the transfer market.
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Any truth in this talk of a press conference this morning?
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I just hope for OGS's sake that he is our first choice otherwise he could find himself out of a job and nowhere to go through no fault of his own
OGS has to do much worse things to actually be in danger of being fired in Molde. However I have a very definitive feeling that this particular point soon will be moot!
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If it's a choice between taking a big risk or puddling around mid to lower table with occasional victories over the "elite" (thanks Eck) and the odd good cup run, I'm for risk every time.
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Any truth in this talk of a press conference this morning?
What talk is this Marlon?
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Be careful what you wish for!
I remember a fairly desperate desire on her for Villa to sign Craig Gordon.
... and now?
Sunderland goalkeeper Craig Gordon is one of nine players released by the Premier League club.
Gordon signed from Hearts in August 2007 for £9m - breaking the British transfer record for a goalkeeper - but was out of contract this summer.
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You don't see the word 'moot' often enough in my opinion.
Moot
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Any truth in this talk of a press conference this morning?
What talk is this Marlon?
A couple of people (a few pages back) mentioned a press conference in Molde being held today.
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Great band from the 70's Moot the Hopple
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You don't see the word 'moot' often enough in my opinion.
Moot
There was a pub called the Moot Meet in Dugley but it has sadly ceased trading. There is now a hand car wash run by some foreign looking types on the car park. You can see their rags drying on the wall when you drive past.
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From Sporting Life:
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has confirmed he held talks on Friday with Aston Villa owner Randy Lerner about becoming the club's next manager.
Solskjaer and wife Silje flew into Birmingham on Lerner's private jet from the former Manchester United striker's home town of Kristiansund.
After a four-hour meeting that also included Solskjaer's agent Jim Solbakken, the 39-year-old returned to Norway to prepare for Molde's Norwegian league clash at Sandnes Ulf on Sunday.
Solskjaer claims he is one of many names in the frame for the post vacated by Alex McLeish on Monday following the Scot's sacking.
Molde announced earlier on Friday they had received "interest and contact from Aston Villa", and said the Barclays Premier League club and Solskjaer "are talking together".
Solskjaer added: "I can confirm I've spoken with Aston Villa.
"There were no negotiations, but an informal initial chat. They also have other candidates they want to talk to.
"I wanted to show respect for one of the biggest clubs in the Premier League by responding to their questions with an initial talk."
Speaking to Norwegian newspaper Romsdals Budstikke, Solskjaer added: "I am the manager of the MFK (Molde) and have only had a casual conversation."
Despite Solskjaer's assertions, he is now the overwhelming favourite to become Lerner's third appointment in less than two years.
After failing with Gerard Houllier and McLeish following the exit of Martin O'Neill in August 2010, Solskjaer is young and progressive, even if lacking in experience.
Following an 11-season playing career at Old Trafford, Solskjaer took charge of United's reserves for two-and-a-half years prior to returning to Molde, a club where he spent two seasons in the mid-1990s before moving to Manchester.
In his debut campaign in charge Solskjaer guided Molde to the league title last season for the first time in their 100-year history.
Although it would be a big step up in class to manage in the Premier League, Solskjaer has received the support of a trio of fellow former Norway internationals in Jan-Aage Fjortoft, Erik Thorstvedt and John Carew.
Former Swindon, Middlesbrough and Sheffield United striker Fjortoft, now a television presenter, said: "Ole has been a great leader for Molde. He always supports his team, and is clear in the demands of his players.
"He won't be Alex Ferguson, he will be Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, but very influenced by the life he has had at Manchester United.
"He has always been a learner, and he will be a great, great manager."
Thorstvedt, who was goalkeeper at Tottenham from 1989 to 1996, appreciates Villa would be taking a gamble on someone with only 18 months behind them as a league manager.
The 49-year-old said: "It's a surprise he is possibly going to be offered such a big job so early.
"But he is very clever, really sensible, and what he says always makes sense.
"He would possibly have thought, 'This is too early for me and I need more experience before I take on a big job like Villa'.
"But if he feels he is ready, then go for it. It's a great chance at a club that was almost relegated this season.
"So maybe the expectations aren't that big and the upside is massive if he can succeed.
"He's played attractive, fluent, passing football in Norway, and it's a Villa side that are a bit jaded, in a need of an energy injection.
"I think he can do that because of his personality and the style of football he wants to play."
Former Villa forward Carew believes Solskjaer is an ideal candidate to lead the midlands club out of the doldrums.
Carew, who spent four years with Villa, scoring 52 goals in 133 appearances, said: "This would be a fantastic job for Ole Gunnar to have.
"He has the mentality and respect from players he needs to succeed, and I think Villa will work really well under his leadership.
"Everything suggests Solskjaer can have a great managerial career in England."
Villa fans have so far welcomed the link to Solskjaer, with 86% from nearly 600 votes on one forum giving their approval.
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Any truth in this talk of a press conference this morning?
What talk is this Marlon?
A couple of people (a few pages back) mentioned a press conference in Molde being held today.
Ok cheers mate
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In half an hour I will be in the Moot Hall, Keswick, market day here and the sun is shining on the felltops. Grand word 'moot'.
Meanwhile....please sign up OGS!!
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who's poll are they using, 86% out of 600, is it our or VT's or a another ?
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If I might, I would wish to suggest that we all take a deep breath. Nothing is set in stone, there is no deal done as of now. This is all about increasing options and trying to find the best fit for the club, be it OGS, Risso, or Dave Woodhall! There is a desire to get a manager in as expedient a way as possible, but I would say that it would be wise at this juncture not to become too committed to any one name.
just a reminder of Pelty's post the other day, which is exactly whats happening
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Right, Ozz, we have. In part, this why I am posting, simply to say that these things take time. Agents are involved, multiple discussions with various managers, etc. and thus it would be wise not to become too married to any one name at this point... Although I, too, would be in favor of OGS for many of the rasons mentioned by others here...
and this
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For some reason I am excited about this and I don't know why. I also don't know why people are so against it. We want a young up and coming manager that plays the game the right way, OGS ticks all the boxes. If he had just won the championship no one would care about his lack of experience and would be saying its an inspired appointment.
Guardiloa had only managed the Barcelona B team in the spanish lower leagues when he took over. I know their squad is 100 times better than ours but so is the expectation.
For me experience does not come into it, if he is the right man for the job and has a vision for the club and how football should be played then give him a go. He will surround himself with the right people which is one of the most important things for a modern day manager.
I hope he has not been told the Kevin Mac and Sid have to form part of the back room staff, they have both done a great job with the youth and reserve teams and Sid is a legend and gave me many great moment watching him from the Holte End but the club cannot be sentimental at a time like this. If the boards number 1 choice, who ever that may be, says he will only take the job if he can decide on all the backroom staff then so be it. No one man is bigger than the club.
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I'm afraid I agree about Sid and K-Mac. I'd prefer them to stay, and they've got used to adapting to different managers, but if the new boss sees things differently then so be it.
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For some reason I am excited about this and I don't know why. I also don't know why people are so against it. We want a young up and coming manager that plays the game the right way, OGS ticks all the boxes. If he had just won the championship no one would care about his lack of experience and would be saying its an inspired appointment.
Guardiloa had only managed the Barcelona B team in the spanish lower leagues when he took over. I know their squad is 100 times better than ours but so is the expectation.
For me experience does not come into it, if he is the right man for the job and has a vision for the club and how football should be played then give him a go. He will surround himself with the right people which is one of the most important things for a modern day manager.
I hope he has not been told the Kevin Mac and Sid have to form part of the back room staff, they have both done a great job with the youth and reserve teams and Sid is a legend and gave me many great moment watching him from the Holte End but the club cannot be sentimental at a time like this. If the boards number 1 choice, who ever that may be, says he will only take the job if he can decide on all the backroom staff then so be it. No one man is bigger than the club.
Firstly, not many people are against it, even me.
Secondly, a word of caution. Bringing in someone like this brings risk with it; a risk we may be wise to take. However, I would think it a risk too far to consider dispensing with Sid and Kevin. Unless you meant them dropping back to reserve level / youth level, which I would agree with if the manager has a good enough management team of his choice.
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We should not discount the fact that Molde are a very wealthy club backed with scandinavian aristocrats money. In fact it has been immortalized in song. Molde Old Dough.
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a lot of people have said they are excited and dont know why,
like little boys who start playing with there Willy's, they dont know why, it just feels good
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Nothing is for certain is it? Any signing of a player or manager is a gamble. Just look at Collymore for us many years ago. How many of us thought he was going to be a massive hit? I'm sure Chelsea thought Scolari was going to be successful.
OGS is a really likable chap who was a excellent player and seems to still have that same enthusiasm. His ideas are fresh and it is something we need at Villa. We need a fresh start and this is a bold and very exciting choice of manager.
Lambert is probably a safer bet and I would be more than happy with him but there is something about Ole I really like and want him to be our new manager.
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Any truth in this talk of a press conference this morning?
What talk is this Marlon?
A couple of people (a few pages back) mentioned a press conference in Molde being held today.
Apparently they are still in a meeting. Haven't even started training yet. The press conference was supposed to be at 9:45.
edit - OGS & staff have just gone onto the training ground, presser now at 11:30
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I guess it depends if Sid and Kevin would see the reserves/youth jobs as a demotion. A clever and sensitive boss could sell it to them, I suppose. But my gut feeling is that K-Mac wouldn't go for it.
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a lot of people have said they are excited and dont know why,
like little boys who start playing with there Willy's, they dont know why, it just feels good
still do ;) mine that is
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
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Molde's press officer says it's fairly certain OGS will be in charge for tomorrow's game.
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So the club is siding with the sponsor, and effectively calling the manager a liar. I see.
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Bit sad really that they do this. That's going to make him popular
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Nothing is for certain is it? Any signing of a player or manager is a gamble. Just look at Collymore for us many years ago. How many of us thought he was going to be a massive hit? I'm sure Chelsea thought Scolari was going to be successful.
OGS is a really likable chap who was a excellent player and seems to still have that same enthusiasm. His ideas are fresh and it is something we need at Villa. We need a fresh start and this is a bold and very exciting choice of manager.
Lambert is probably a safer bet and I would be more than happy with him but there is something about Ole I really like and want him to be our new manager.
i think thats the problem,
Lambert is the safer bet, the word 'safer' seems a tad boring now, like safe hands etc, we are ready to take the gambel to go back to safety seems a bit dreary
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Is that press conference at 11:30 local or 11:30 UK? If it's 11:30 local, surely it's about to start now?
Sounds like he's going to be forced out of Molde - almost like they want to push him before he jumps.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
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If the club/sponsor is pulling out all funding then surely Solskjaer could walk (ala MON) meaning we don't have to pay compensation.
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Press conference is at 12:30 (11:30 Yam Yam Time)
Solskjaer is meeting with the chairman and director. It is expected Solskjaer will take charge of Molde's trainig session today.
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We should not discount the fact that Molde are a very wealthy club backed with scandinavian aristocrats money. In fact it has been immortalized in song. Molde Old Dough.
First bit of vinyl I ever bought that Brian . Great lyrics ;-)
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OGS to hold the press conf. I would guess it's just to clarify what he said last night about no formal talks.
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You dont stop backing a club because a manager decides to talk to another club. There are obviously other agendas going on here.
Also didnt Molde release a statement saying they had given OGS permission to speak to us?
Finally, last year we refused to speak to Mark Hughes due to the way he left Fulham. If OGS spoke to us without permission (according to Rokke), does this mean we wont be employing OGS?
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The other side to this financial withdrawal enabling OGS to walk and cost us nothing, is that if it is thought we have caused this, it could add massively to the compo bill we might face.
EDIT: shit sentence, sorry.
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We should not discount the fact that Molde are a very wealthy club backed with scandinavian aristocrats money. In fact it has been immortalized in song. Molde Old Dough.
Good grief!!
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The other side to this financial withdrawal enabling OGS to walk and cost us nothing, is that if it is thought we have caused this, it could add massively to the compo bill we might face.
EDIT: shit sentence, sorry.
But didn't they give us permission to speak to him ?
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Any compensation would be based on his contract, not unforseen events like their sponsor pulling the plug.
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The thing is, Rokke has previous. Molde looks like such a nice club, with OGS and the scenery and all, but this guy Rokke, who went to jail for a casual bit of boat-ownership fraud back in 2005, is a nasty piece of work with previous. If I were OGS, I would want out of there pretty sharpish.
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I realise that, but my worry is that perhaps they would try to set a precedent, and the withdrawal of funding is being used in order to manipulate cause for higher demands.
EDIT: my response is to PW's post.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
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Another Norwegian footballer has tweeted that the Molde players have been told this is OGS last game in charge.
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The sponsors are blackmailing him? Fuck Them Ole, jump ship ASAP.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
hmmm, I know what you mean.
Careless tongues and all that.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
If Villa REALLY wanted to keep it quiet, surely they would just hire a private plane.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
hmmm, I know what you mean.
Careless tongues and all that.
C'mon. If you want to keep things quiet, you do not plonk a £10m private jet overnight on a runway in a town smaller than Coleshill.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
hmmm, I know what you mean.
Careless tongues and all that.
C'mon. If you want to keep things quiet, you do not plonk a £10m private jet overnight on a runway in a town smaller than Coleshill.
Very true should have got Ryanair involved, or better still sent a car for him.
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Moot?
I always thought it was moo.
Like a cow's opinion.
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
hmmm, I know what you mean.
Careless tongues and all that.
C'mon. If you want to keep things quiet, you do not plonk a £10m private jet overnight on a runway in a town smaller than Coleshill.
Lol.. It is hardly going in incognito is it!
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So, this press conference is pretty strange, eh?
'Relationship with owners has been tested and not without consequences'
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'the club felt they list control over the situation on Thursday when Randy's jet landed in Norway'
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I'm just posting this stuff from Andreas Meier Eide on Twitter, by the way.
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The club wanted a written answer from OGS reg. some questions being asked about his future at the club
OGS gave them answer by phone
The club will be backed throughout the rest of the year
They are positive things will work out, despite the owner situastion.
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The board and OGS had a meeting this morning
they believe OGS is the man for the job, they stress that OGS is under contract, they don't want to change that
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If OGS doesnt end up being the Villa manager i cant see him being the molde manager for much longer. just got this of there offical website
Røkke and Aker ASA has for years been Molde Football Club's most important and largest partner in several areas. Molde FK are eternally grateful for the contribution and support Røkke, his family and Aker ASA has shown us over the years. Molde Football Club regrets that Aker ASA has decided to reduce its involvement as a result of our Manager's actions. We confirm Røkke and Aker ASA's version of events and why Aker ASA has decided to reduce their contributions.
feel bad now , we must have him as manager now after causing all this ::)
To many ITK with to much info ie flight schedules letting everyone know, could work against us, all this eagerness to know what's happening.
hmmm, I know what you mean.
Careless tongues and all that.
C'mon. If you want to keep things quiet, you do not plonk a £10m private jet overnight on a runway in a town smaller than Coleshill.
What are the odds of an ITK traffic controller( possibly), who happens to be a Villa fan and a member of a Villa forum tracking the owner's private jet. Not many odds I bet.
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I thought they gave OGS permission to talk to us hence why it was fairly public knowledge. If they didn't give permission they're entitled to get a bit arsey, but my guess is - as has been said elsewhere - there are other agendas in play and they're using OGS as a scapegoat. Either way it looks like his relationship with the club is now pretty soured and hopefully Randy will get him out of it pdq.
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Why do I get the feeling this is going to be messy and drag on for ages?
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OGS talking now, stressing the talks were 'informal'
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We did get permission. Molde just forgot to inform this Rokke bloke.. We've done nowt wrong.
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He's looking to see out his contract, but he will talk to the owner
He still feels he has the clubs trust
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Why do I get the feeling this is going to be messy and drag on for ages?
Agree it could get messy or just blow over, but a few to many 100% ITK's have let the cat out the bag.
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he would've talked to Villa anyway, it's a big club
OGS says that he and the players will keep on working.
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He's looking to see out his contract, but he will talk to the owner
He still feels he has the clubs trust
well thats that unless they sack him
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So, when is Mick McCarthy scheduled to arrive in Randy's private wheelbarrow?
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Randy's jet was just a gesture from Villa, made it easier for him to go to England and talk to the club, he's sorry for the fuss it caused
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Again, just to stress, I'm just copying these little snippets from the Twitter account of Andreas Meier Eide. I've finished, now!
NOt much in it, really, just a clarification of stuff we mostly knew.
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I think if you read between the lines, he wants the job, and if Villa offer it he will accept.
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Betfair abondoning OGS as favourite. Bail out bail out!!
Gone from odds on to 4/1 in 5 mins!
Lambert will be new fave in 2 hours.....get on him now at 5/1
You heard it here first...
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Lambert now new favourite.....
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"I must apologise for the hassle around this... It should not have come in the evening of 17th of May [Norway's national holiday].
I have aspirations of becoming a Premier League coach, but I am very happy here, and do not feel any lack of confidence in Molde.
We are ready to take on new challenges together here."
Chalk him off, Randy.
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Lambert now new favourite.....
No he isn't. His shortest odds are 3s. OGS is still no better than 4/7.
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"I must apologise for the hassle around this... It should not have come in the evening of 17th of May [Norway's national holiday].
I have aspirations of becoming a Premier League coach, but I am very happy here, and do not feel any lack of confidence in Molde.
We are ready to take on new challenges together here."
Chalk him off, Randy.
Disagree, he's there for the taking.
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There was just a OGS drift out to 4.5, just someone want to put some money down I presume as it was only a move of about £200.
Allowed me to green up though, which is nice.
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He might just be saying that to fend off the journos and try and keep things calm around him.
He might be happy but if he was really that happy at Molde I'm not too sure he'd fly to England to talk to Randy about the obvious manager role that needs to be filled. He's obviously interested in the potential job otherwise he wouldn't of come over.
How many managers do you know get flown in via private jet with another owner of a football club and then claim it was just a casual chat and nothing serious was talked about?
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OGS also said something to the effect of Villa shouldn't be in 16th place, and it would be a great career move.
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He might just be saying that to fend off the journos and try and keep things calm around him.
`I was just getting undressed ready to have a bath and tripped over and fell on her. We're just friends'
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Well he has been asked outright if he would take the Villa job if offered and apparently was very coy on his answer.
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Molde have a match coming up and the last thing that OGS would want to do would be to upset the preparations for the game. The press conference calms speculation a little and puts off the the media questions until after the match. In other words it just buys time.
If anything is going to happen, it will be after the match tomorrow.
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He's given an interview to a journalist where he still remains coy. I think he's coming.
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I think Rokke is just playing the game known as Billionaire's Conkers. It's where extremely rich and powerful men compete by flaunting their wealth and power.
Randy went to the Private-Jet-parked-on-your-runway straight away. Rokke has countered by threatening to destroy his own football club on a whim.
Randy is better at this game
What's next, a recall for the General and the marines.
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I reckon it will be Lambert . Not as exciting as OSG but still a very good manager , who I would be happy with . I think Bent and Holt could be pretty lethal up front.
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Andreas Meier Eide is a bit of a star on Twitter, and if he reads these boards thanks for your translations.
Ole when asked directly if he would take the job laughed and said we will have to wait and see, I am not looking for another job.
That is most definitely not ruling yourself out. He is in a really hard place, because he wants the Villa job clearly, but does not want to burn his Moldy bridges, so has to strike a balance.
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An off the record Norwegian reporter is remaining non-committal.
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I reckon it will be Lambert . Not as exciting as OSG but still a very good manager , who I would be happy with . I think Bent and Holt could be pretty lethal up front.
Holt has has a good season and has caught the PL defenders by surprise, something that happens from time to time but he is 31. Can he reproduce that form for the next 3 years, I do not think so.
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An off the record Norwegian reporter is remaining non-committal.
I can only infer that everyone is guessing. It's a bigger story over there than over here.
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"I must apologise for the hassle around this... It should not have come in the evening of 17th of May [Norway's national holiday].
I have aspirations of becoming a Premier League coach, but I am very happy here, and do not feel any lack of confidence in Molde.
We are ready to take on new challenges together here."
Chalk him off, Randy.
Disagree, he's there for the taking.
Disagreeing too. OGS will be our manager.
The main men in Molde experience a media storm they really couldn't anticipate. The result is that the club attempts to distance itself from OGS by very directly blaming him for the whole kefluffle. My question is, though: Would the club be doing it this way if they weren't pretty sure OGS was leaving? They could have worded it like "bad communication", "misunderstandings" or something like that, but they want to come out of this as blame free and strong as possible in anticipation of a future where local support and goodwill is going to be even more important.
At the press conference OGS came across as stern repeating his stance that he hadn't done anything wrong. I support him in this. Formally OGS has done nothing wrong. This has become a big thing simply because he is a damn important person in Molde, Molde's own MON if you like, controlling all footballing aspects as well as being a star in his own right. That said, OGS also did a good job putting out fires, playing down issues about fronts and conflicts. A true diplomat as far as the reality of the situation allowed him.
The important thing, though: Nothing in the PC managed to change my impression, that he will go for it if Aston Villa want him.
Exciting times.
(you are right, English isn't really my first language!)
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Good to have you on board, Gompers. Welcome.
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Good afternoon, Gompedyret. Nice of you to share your thoughts with us, and your English is better than most of ours is.
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I'm pretty convinced he wants the job, most of us on here want him to have the job. This could unite the club as a whole Randy, offer him the job please.
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Hopefully get a lot more Norweigian's ( that dont look right ) posters on here , If he comes .
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Takk.
My Norwegian is really coming along.
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I'm pretty convinced he wants the job, most of us on here want him to have the job. This could unite the club as a whole Randy, offer him the job please.
To repeat my earlier belief, I would be very surprised if he wasn't our first choice and the job wasn't his for the asking.
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Lar hop Ole er den nye Aston Villa manager. spennende tider
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Hopefully get a lot more Norweigian's ( that dont look right ) posters on here , If he comes .
That's because it dain't right
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I'm pretty convinced he wants the job, most of us on here want him to have the job. This could unite the club as a whole Randy, offer him the job please.
To repeat my earlier belief, I would be very surprised if he wasn't our first choice and the job wasn't his for the asking.
Yes it would be very strange to fly someone over in a private jet with his wife if things weren't a bit beyond an 'informal chat'.
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I'm pretty convinced he wants the job, most of us on here want him to have the job. This could unite the club as a whole Randy, offer him the job please.
To repeat my earlier belief, I would be very surprised if he wasn't our first choice and the job wasn't his for the asking.
Yes it would be very strange to fly someone over in a private jet with his wife if things weren't a bit beyond an 'informal chat'.
Three days before his club play a league match.
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For some reason I am excited about this and I don't know why. I also don't know why people are so against it. We want a young up and coming manager that plays the game the right way, OGS ticks all the boxes. If he had just won the championship no one would care about his lack of experience and would be saying its an inspired appointment.
Guardiloa had only managed the Barcelona B team in the spanish lower leagues when he took over. I know their squad is 100 times better than ours but so is the expectation.
For me experience does not come into it, if he is the right man for the job and has a vision for the club and how football should be played then give him a go. He will surround himself with the right people which is one of the most important things for a modern day manager.
I hope he has not been told the Kevin Mac and Sid have to form part of the back room staff, they have both done a great job with the youth and reserve teams and Sid is a legend and gave me many great moment watching him from the Holte End but the club cannot be sentimental at a time like this. If the boards number 1 choice, who ever that may be, says he will only take the job if he can decide on all the backroom staff then so be it. No one man is bigger than the club.
Firstly, not many people are against it, even me.
Secondly, a word of caution. Bringing in someone like this brings risk with it; a risk we may be wise to take. However, I would think it a risk too far to consider dispensing with Sid and Kevin. Unless you meant them dropping back to reserve level / youth level, which I would agree with if the manager has a good enough management team of his choice.
I have never thought Sid wanted to get to the top of management and is happier as an advisor and working with the younger players where there is less pressure to win. In this role he can help to develop players in the way he used to play the game.
KM is a difficult one. He had the taste of the big time, although only for a short time. The media keep on saying he throws his hat into the ring every time the position becomes available but this could be just speculation. How much influence he had with McLeish last season, it is difficult to know with Grant being there and, afterall, Grant was McLeish's man.
The make up of the team management structure is complex with a big PL club. With a manager, assistant manager, 1st team coach, specialist coaches etc., there is no set who does what and it depends on the personalities. Some are good motivators, some good tacticians, some good organisers and some have an eye for spotting things.
I do not see KM moving back to Reserve Team coach without being heavily involved with 1st team coaching in some capacity. By the looks of OGS's set up at Molde, he has quite a few coaches so, if he comes, it could be quite an open structure.
Could KM move up to a DOF. He would have to grow into the position as he doesn't have the experience in the things like transfer matters but it could work.
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I like Norwegians. I like Norwegian Villa supporters and I think I will like our soon to be Norwegian Villa manager.
Once he signs I will celebrate with a meal consisting of herring.
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And I will burn a church.
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And I will stay up all night fishing for cod
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Whilst I don't want Kmac or Sid to go, if the new manager decides they need to then so be it. Ideally I'd like them to be involved, but we can't really have any room for sentiment if they don't want the roles they could be offered.
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And I will burn a church.
And I will burn my mother in law on a funeral pyre. Shit, already done that. What can I do?
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And I shall greet our hordes of new Norwegian supporters in my time-honoured fashion.
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And I will burn a church.
And I will burn my mother in law on a funeral pyre. Shit, already done that. What can I do?
Eat salted licquorice? Not quite as much fun, though! ;)
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Randy's jet was just a gesture from Villa, made it easier for him to go to England and talk to the club, he's sorry for the fuss it caused
It's a pretty standard practice in the world of American sports. Some of the bigger Colleges even have their own private jets to carry their sports teams around and will often use them to fly recruits in to visit the campus.
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How much is postage of the mag to Norway Dave?
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SSN reporting that OGS will not be the new Villa manager.
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A few journalists (and Stan Collymore) reporting that Solskjaer is staying at Molde.
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Bollocks.
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Has our stock fallen so far that we cannot attract a guy from Norway?
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Bollocks indeed.
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I am gutted with that.
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Yep, all over.
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SSN breaking news : Ole Gunnar Solksjaer will not be taking over as Aston Villa manager :-((
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Back to fancying Lambert it is then...
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This years Martinez. Great!
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Lambert + Holt it is then ...........
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Has our stock fallen so far that we cannot attract a guy from Norway?
Albeit with Champions League football to look forward to, and if he plays his cards right a stepping stone to another club established in the Champions League.
First question, even in informal talks would be "how much will I have to spend?" so perhaps he didn't like the answer.
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Lambert and uninspiring, midtable boofball it is then. And you may say I'm being unfair to his tactical acumen, but that's what his football boils down to.
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What are the sources to this story?
Sounded to me like OGS was just playing it down because he wasn't offered the job or an interview. What's changed over the past hour?
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Although now the reports are that he just hasn't been offered the job (yet) but the interpretation is that he would take it if offered.
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Fuck it. Maybe he thinks he owes them a bit more time. Move on to plan b.
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Anyone got Dave Whelan's number?
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Has our stock fallen so far that we cannot attract a guy from Norway?
Albeit with Champions League football to look forward to, and if he plays his cards right a stepping stone to another club established in the Champions League.
First question, even in informal talks would be "how much will I have to spend?" so perhaps he didn't like the answer.
Or perhaps he wants to stay in Norway a bit longer and nobody could have got him over. It happens.
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This seems very odd.
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I watched the press conference and he HAS NOT turned us down! This is massive media bollocks and sky have just ran what they wanted to take out the press conference. OGS did say he hasn't been offered the job and it's up to Villa to decide if WE want him! At the moment there has been no decision to be made so of course he's staying at molde!
I'm going to watch the odds massively drift now and then lay more cash on him later
UTV
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This worries me regarding what Randy is promising for a transfer kitty.
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They seem to be reporting this as definite on the basis of the same statements we were calling cagey & non-commital!
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I want to see quotes. If it's the quotes we've already seen, it's a massive misinterpretation I feel.
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They know feck all. Calm down
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On the plus side I've just won 12 quid on bet fair!
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I'm not getting all jizzed up over this.
Signed, sealed, on the bench, receiving abuse. I won't believe anything until then.
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It's just the bookies playing games......again.
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Has our stock fallen so far that we cannot attract a guy from Norway?
Albeit with Champions League football to look forward to, and if he plays his cards right a stepping stone to another club established in the Champions League.
First question, even in informal talks would be "how much will I have to spend?" so perhaps he didn't like the answer.
Maybe we we didn't offer him the job, just like with Martinez last year. Informal talks are just that-informal talks. If OGS has another couple of good seasons building his career then we have laid some good groundwork and marked his card. A sound decision all round for me and far too big a gamble at this stage. Hopefully the club will be looking at plenty more candidates that are just as vibrant and the right fit for the club. Onwards and upwards.
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OGS 6/1
Lambert 9/4
Coyle 25/1
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If he has turned us down, can we go back to hating the Manure-loving, Bench-warming, Reindeer-Fucking Midget again?
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If Sky's story is based on that press conference they are well off.
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Yes. I never liked the twat.
;)
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The one fucking time I agreed with everyone else!
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'Not on the look out for a new job', does not mean he doesn't want one.
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What's he supposed to say, he's been offered the job? he's thinking about accepting the job? But he's going to stay for the last few matches.
If there's a quote saying I won't be the next manager of Aston Villa then fine.
He's already been quoted as saying he wasn't offered the job & there are several other people to interview.
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This is like BFR in 91 all over again. Just put a tenner on OGS now he's 6/1 as you never know.
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It better not be coyle
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The Beeb are doing exactly that. The key quote is "I'm not looking for another job". But in the same sentence he said "but we'll wait and see".
Weird they're reporting this as cut-and-dried, but they're not reporting the extraordinary burnt bridges from Rokke and the like.
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He is still coming, I want to hear his team talks.
Første stopp jævla slipper inn mål på corner.
Second, prøv og scorer ett jævla mål fra en corner.
Warnock, svar meg tilbake og jeg vil sparke din jævla hodet i.
Collins, slutte å gå i nattklubber for piss ups klokken tre om morgenen.
Dunne, legg dem paier og pasties ned og holde kjeft.
Delph, har du en legeerklæring?
Bannan, ikke drikke og kjøre.
N'Zogbia, fortell meg hva faen gjør du her?
Gabby, din en villa mann gjennom og through.Start lek som Villa mann igjen.
Bent, hører jeg at du kan score tjue mål i en sesong. Gjør det!
Faulkner, får faen ut dette rommet. Jeg har ansvaret!
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I am under contract at Molde. l am not looking for another job - thats the basis on which sky report this as dead. He has been put in a press conference and been asked about a job he hasn't been offered yet. The glaring flaw in his statement is that this bloke who isn't looking for another job just flew to another country to talk about one.
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It's the twenty four hour press cycle, they have to make it up as they go along, it's all bollocks.
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Is there any suggestion that the Norwegian press are reporting this? I thought that journo DW spoke to after the conference was non-committal?
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it may not be just the press conference. There may have been an off the record briefing from somebody. I would love to know why SSN are being so definite about it.
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He is still coming, I want to hear his team talks.
Første stopp jævla slipper inn mål på corner.
Second, prøv og scorer ett jævla mål fra en corner.
Warnock, svar meg tilbake og jeg vil sparke din jævla hodet i.
Collins, slutte å gå i nattklubber for piss ups klokken tre om morgenen.
Dunne, legg dem paier og pasties ned og holde kjeft.
Delph, har du en legeerklæring?
Bannan, ikke drikke og kjøre.
N'Zogbia, fortell meg hva faen gjør du her?
Gabby, din en villa mann gjennom og through.Start lek som Villa mann igjen.
Bent, hører jeg at du kan score tjue mål i en sesong. Gjør det!
Faulkner, får faen ut dette rommet. Jeg har ansvaret!
Oh, darn. Very rarely a forum posting provokes a ROFL in this house. Well done, sir. :D ;D ;D
Dave.Woodhall and Damon Green: Cheers, guys. 8)
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it may not be just the press conference. There may have been an off the record briefing from somebody. I would love to know why SSN are being so definite about it.
The BBC are too.
I can't imagine they would rule it out so utterly unless they'd been tipped that it was a dead duck.
If true, it's a balls up. OGS wouldn't fly in for talks unless he wanted the job and Villa wouldn't fly him in unless they were serious, which makes it all the more bizarre.
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I'm pretty gutted now.
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SSN are quoting him as saying;
"I have 2 years left on my contract and I'll stand by that."
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NRK Sport:
Football expert Lars Tjærnås believes Solskjaer would jump ship after the way Aker and Molde handled his trip to England:
"My interpretation of the press conference today is that Solskjaer is tempted by Aston Villa. It is not surprising, for it is the right club at the right time..."
"What is surprising is that Molde Football Club, as I see it, has made it more tempting for him to go with the reactions for both club and Røkke (Aker) has had in the aftermath".
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Oh, darn. Very rarely a forum posting provokes a ROFL in this house. Well done, sir. :D ;D ;D
Dave.Woodhall and Damon Green: Cheers, guys. 8)
Gompy! You can help here - is there the suggestion in the Norwegian media that this press conference means OGS isn't coming?
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NRK Sport:
Football expert Lars Tjærnås believes Solskjær would jump ship after the way Aker and Molde handled his trip to England:
"My interpretation of the press conference today is that Solskjær is tempted by Aston Villa. It is not surprising, for it is the right club at the right time..."
"What is surprising is that Molde Football Club, as I see it, has made it more tempting for him to go with the reactions for both club and Røkke (Aker) has had in the aftermath".
I hope he's bloody right. This whole situation is very confusing.
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"In football, and in life in general, things turn up that you have to make decisions about. I have a contract for two more years and I'll stand by that."
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Take heart. It's caused a storm back home, but what more can he do/say now. But he'd be temped.
Quotes from the press conference:
"It's up to Aston Villa if there's going to be any more. I
have only spoken to them, and I would expect that they will be
talking to others.
"If they contact me I'll have to make a decision, but it's
not like there's a private plane standing waiting."
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No way has he turned us down on the basis of that. I've read a proper translation of what was said today and it is clear he is interested.
Can't believe you can have such good prices on him now. I just had another 20 quid at 6/1
With events of tha last 24 hours I now think he is more likely to get the job rather than less.
If you can get that sort of price, my advice is to take it.
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SSN and BBC have definitely jumped the gun here. They've got an article with nothing but a couple of half-quotes that say nothing. We haven't offered OGS the job yet and he hasn't ruled himself out.
I'm putting a rather large sum on 7-1. Probably the last chance before he's offered the job.
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He's still getting backed at the bookies.....
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No way has he turned us down on the basis of that. I've read a proper translation of what was said today and it is clear he is interested.
Can't believe you can have such good prices on him now. I just had another 20 quid at 6/1
With events of tha last 24 hours I now think he is more likely to get the job rather than less.
If you can get that sort of price, my advice is to take it.
I hope you're right, I'll be gutted if he isn't our new boss.
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This thread is already more exciting than the last four Villa matches.
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I'm not at all convinced by this latest news.
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The thing about Sky is that they are desperate to 'break' stories. Which makes the more likely to take a definite line, even when the evidence isn't that clear-cut. Their view is that they can always change tack later, which is a kind of bonus: they get to call a story twice, the second time as a shock u-turn. So unless Ole's agent is briefing privately that it's all over, it's probably not.
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Oh, and the BBC just copy Sky. It's always the B-team on the desk on Saturday mornings.
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The thing about Sky is that they are desperate to 'break' stories. Which makes the more likely to take a definite line, even when the evidence isn't that clear-cut. Their view is that they can always change tack later, which is a kind of bonus: they get to call a story twice, the second time as a shock u-turn. So unless Ole's agent is briefing privately that it's all over, it's probably not.
Looking across the various channels it seems to be based on the press conference. There's no reference of 'sources close to Solskjaer'. It seems that Sky broke it and BBC followed suit.
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The thing about Sky is that they are desperate to 'break' stories. Which makes the more likely to take a definite line, even when the evidence isn't that clear-cut. Their view is that they can always change tack later, which is a kind of bonus: they get to call a story twice, the second time as a shock u-turn. So unless Ole's agent is briefing privately that it's all over, it's probably not.
They did it when Muamba collapsed, they don't give a shit really. They're not a recognised news channel, just the promotional arm of Sky Sports.
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The thing about Sky is that they are desperate to 'break' stories. Which makes the more likely to take a definite line, even when the evidence isn't that clear-cut. Their view is that they can always change tack later, which is a kind of bonus: they get to call a story twice, the second time as a shock u-turn. So unless Ole's agent is briefing privately that it's all over, it's probably not.
Yesterday SSN reported it as breaking news that the Community Shield would be staged at Villa Park. I was surprised because I thought this had been common knowledge for months. But yeah, it does come across as to how desperately they want to get that yellow strap running across the bottom of the screen - especially in the summer.
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I see Kendrick has tweeted saying he hasn't turned us down, but would consider an offer it was made.
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Paul Lambert 2/1
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 5/2
Roberto Martinez 6/1
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I see Kendrick has tweeted saying he hasn't turned us down, but would consider an offer it was made.
Panic over. Fuck Sky to Hades.
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I think they will talk to PL Monday and make their decision on Monday evening. If PL says the right things , he has a very good chance .
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It's why Adam Boulton went into meltdown at the general election. Sky don't like uncertainty, and they are unable to report gradual processes.
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Poll - Ole or Lambert would be interesting .
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I think they will talk to PL Monday and make their decision on Monday evening. If PL says the right things , he has a very good chance .
If those 'right things' are 'I'm going to stop being a manager in the top 4 in the league for long balls', he'll be welcome.
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I wonder how patient OGS is ?
If we are interviewing others, or don't give him a feeling that we aregoing to be offering him the job, will he decide to stay put ?
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I have no problem with Lambert at all and I don't give a toss what Sky or BBC say as they are way behind the news lately. I still expect OGS to be our manager.
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Google Chris Jefferies for a reminder of top decision-making in 24-hour rolling News.
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Here's the crux of the issue: the British media - namely Sky - have reported that he's turned down the job; the Norwegian media are reporting he might take it if offered. I think I know who I trust out of the two, in terms of proximity to the situation, understanding of the language and tendency towards sensationalism.
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monty , I would have been happy with Lambert this time last week , but the OGS thing as really make it interesting. I would kind of be a little disppointed now If it was Lambert and not Ole but with Lambert as manager , it will never be as bad as its been recently . yes , a little steady but still pretty young and ambitious.
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monty , I would have been happy with Lambert this last week , but the OGS thing as really make it interesting. I would kind of be a little disppointed now If it was Lambert and not Ole but with Lambert as manager , it will never be as bad as its been recently . yes , a little steady but still pretty young and ambitious.
He can be as ambitious as he likes, he needs to be able to change and adapt his approach if he's going to get where he wants. Like I say, a world away from McLeish and probably (at least will be) better than MON, but not as good as he could be.
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I look at Lamberts team and think who? but when I watched them against Arsenal I was suprised how attacking the team was and Arsenal had no answers to it and they played some great football . Maybe with the better players and a a little money , he might do the job . I wouldnt too upset to get him , even thou having OSG would have been so exciting .
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When players/managers say they will see out the remaining 1/2 years of a deal this really means I want to move on.
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Just as an aside, the BBC were reporting Solskjaers sex life as a Man U player yesterday.
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monty , I would have been happy with Lambert this last week , but the OGS thing as really make it interesting. I would kind of be a little disppointed now If it was Lambert and not Ole but with Lambert as manager , it will never be as bad as its been recently . yes , a little steady but still pretty young and ambitious.
He can be as ambitious as he likes, he needs to be able to change and adapt his approach if he's going to get where he wants. Like I say, a world away from McLeish and probably (at least will be) better than MON, but not as good as he could be.
Maybe but he does have a plan B and a plan C ;)
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I look at Lamberts team and think who? but when I watched them against Arsenal I was suprised how attacking the team was and Arsenal had no answers to it and they played some great football .
Based on results at the Emirates at the end of the season give the job to Gary McAllister.
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I do not believe this is over yet. If Villa make the offer direct to Ole think he will say yes. That sponsor is pulling out regardless and Ole knows that his team will slump without funding ......
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monty , I would have been happy with Lambert this last week , but the OGS thing as really make it interesting. I would kind of be a little disppointed now If it was Lambert and not Ole but with Lambert as manager , it will never be as bad as its been recently . yes , a little steady but still pretty young and ambitious.
He can be as ambitious as he likes, he needs to be able to change and adapt his approach if he's going to get where he wants. Like I say, a world away from McLeish and probably (at least will be) better than MON, but not as good as he could be.
Maybe but he does have a plan B and a plan C ;)
Like I say, better than MON!
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'I have not been offered a job at Aston Villa. We have simply met to get to know each other. They will also speak to other candidates and I do not know whats going to happen from here. So as of today I have two years left on my contract and I intend to stay'
If Sky and BBC are based on that, then they have definitely jumped the gun.
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I look at Lamberts team and think who? but when I watched them against Arsenal I was suprised how attacking the team was and Arsenal had no answers to it and they played some great football .
Based on results at the Emirates at the end of the season give the job to Gary McAllister.
Considering what it cost to hire Mcliesh and then sack him and his assistant, that wouldn't have been a bad shout last season.
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I look at Lamberts team and think who? but when I watched them against Arsenal I was suprised how attacking the team was and Arsenal had no answers to it and they played some great football .
Based on results at the Emirates at the end of the season give the job to Gary McAllister.
Cant remember Arsenal playing for anything that day
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Collymore wants Lambert . Ive gone off Lambert now ;)
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Stan Collymore talking about OGS. He just said he was wrong to have tweeted about OGS having turned down the job. He said Villa haven't offered him the job and that from his "contacts" in Norway that he would seriously consider it if offered.
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I see he's now apologised and confirm no offer has been rejected.
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
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'I have not been offered a job at Aston Villa. We have simply met to get to know each other. They will also speak to other candidates and I do not know whats going to happen from here. So as of today I have two years left on my contract and I intend to stay'
If Sky and BBC are based on that, then they have definitely jumped the gun.
Far from ruling himself out, that's practically a declaration of interest! By saying that "so as of today..." bit, that means "while there is no offer I'm at Molde", which means "when there IS an offer, I'm leaving".
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I want lambert- just back from work and hearing ogs has said no, anymore developments on this and anyone else in the running?
Hearing simon grayson was at bodymoor in the week and is in the running but im hoping lambert gets it.
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Collymore is not a proper journalist, or a proper fan. He is just a gob on legs these days
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
My reading of the situation seems correct then, MM. Is there a chance the Villa board will see how popular the idea of OGS was to Villa fans and perhaps go with that a bit? Especially considering how unpopular the last appointment was.
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
Thanks well I'm glad the board are looking around, but I really hope we get Solskjaer.
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Reading some of the comments on here, i certainly feel more confident of OGS joining us. I would certainly be disappointed if he doesnt come now!!! RL needs to sort it quickly dont bother looking elsewhere now....get it done and dusted as i imagine the doubt in OGS' mind could be that we are still looking at other potential candidates. I have never felt so excited as in the last couple of days. Are AVFC aware of the fact that 80% of supporters(H&V Poll) are basically in favour and that support will be off his back for the forseeable future.
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
My reading of the situation seems correct then, MM. Is there a chance the Villa board will see how popular the idea of OGS was to Villa fans and perhaps go with that a bit? Especially considering how unpopular the last appointment was.
They think we might be as happy with the other candidates but well aware of how popular he is with fans ! And no I haven't a clue who they are after but can't see it being Martinez they won't take the risk . I don't think the candiates are from any of the ones mentioned but thats just me
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Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public
Sending a private jet to a fishing village to collect him probably wasn't the wisest idea in that case.
I'm pleased to see Ian Dowie still hasn't been ruled out though.
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just back from work and hearing ogs has said no, anymore developments on this and anyone else in the running?
Hearing simon grayson was at bodymoor in the week and is in the running
No he hasn't
No he isn't
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The BBC report very much suggest OGS is happy to honour his Molde contract which has 2 years left.
Do we know who the other 2 candidates are ?
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
My reading of the situation seems correct then, MM. Is there a chance the Villa board will see how popular the idea of OGS was to Villa fans and perhaps go with that a bit? Especially considering how unpopular the last appointment was.
They think we might be as happy with the other candidates but well aware of how popular he is with fans ! And no I haven't a clue who they are after but can't see it being Martinez they won't take the risk . I don't think the candiates are from any of the ones mentioned but thats just me
I'm glad they're aware, now just hire Ole!
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Odds on OGS on Betfair are up and down like a whore's drawers.
I haven't had a bet in over a year, but I've backed him at 5.6 and had a bit on Lambert.
Trader's market ahoy!
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My reading of the situation seems correct then, MM. Is there a chance the Villa board will see how popular the idea of OGS was to Villa fans and perhaps go with that a bit? Especially considering how unpopular the last appointment was.
Very good point there Monty. I'm sure that the club are not entirely unhappy about the fact the discussion with OGS is in the public domain as it allows them to gauge fan reaction. I'm sure that an element of the selection procedure this time around will include a feel for how the fans would react to the candidates. Last season they saw how damaging and expensive an unpopular (and inept) appointment can be. If only they would have taken this approach at the end of last season then we may have got some value from our season tickets last season.
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A popular appointment would be allowed more time to get things right. Somebody like Martinez would be under pressure if we lost the first game.
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
We need to get this one right and I am sure they realise their shortcomings 12 months or so ago. For what it's worth I would be happy with OGS but the right approach is to cover all realisitc bases. I suspect, for whatever reasons, the Board have more suitable options this time and Villa fans expectations are more in line with what is achievable. I had faith last year and felt let down but I have more confidence they will get it right this time, let them do their job.
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Sky say he is staying put and wasnt offerred the job, nice of us to take a private jet to show him around the ground though. Cost cutting at its best.
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The BBC report very much suggest OGS is happy to honour his Molde contract which has 2 years left.
Do we know who the other 2 candidates are ?
cause he is happy . Im happy to shag my girlfriend for the next two years but If Megan Fox comes along , then I am off ;)
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Please can we reset the poll?
Suggested options:
OGS
Lambert
A.N.Other
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The BBC report very much suggest OGS is happy to honour his Molde contract which has 2 years left.
Do we know who the other 2 candidates are ?
I'm thinking Rodgers and Holloway, don't know why. I also think that either will offer something different to what we've had previously. Lambert is the safe choice, arguably boring though.
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The BBC report very much suggest OGS is happy to honour his Molde contract which has 2 years left.
Do we know who the other 2 candidates are ?
I'm thinking Rodgers and Holloway, don't know why. I also think that either will offer something different to what we've had previously. Lambert is the safe choice, arguably boring though.
No to either of those thanks. OSG please.
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Is it still worth a few quid on OGS ?
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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer5/4
Paul Lambert11/4
Kevin MacDonald7/1
I had a tenner on Ole 10/1 this morning and a tenner 5/1 on Lambert
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Is it still worth a few quid on OGS ?
He was 10/1 about a hour ago . Maybe that was because of Collymores tweet
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Is it still worth a few quid on OGS ?
I'm in*
*but may lay later
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Is it still worth a few quid on OGS ?
Definitely, the mainstream media have definitely jumped the gun.
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Where can I bet on OGS? Willhill (only place I have an account) aren't taking bets.
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God, I wish I was around an hour ago.
Upside is my son swam for the first time without armbands.
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Please can we reset the poll?
Suggested options:
OGS
Lambert
A.N.Other
Would it be a better idea to reset the 'Who do you want as next manager' thread poll and add OGS to that?
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I see Jan Aage Fjortoft has tweeted saying he thinks if Solskjaer is offered the job he'll take it.
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Just backed 5.8, then a lay 4.8 literally seconds later.
Marvellous.
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Can someone please explain betfair to me; I wish to put a tenner on OGS but there are three options I can see - 4.6, 4.7 and 4.8 - what's the significance?
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Blue = back
Pink = Lay
but your screen can be customised so hard to tell. Click on a price and see what it says. Just don't confirm until you're comfortable.
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The club have said this is a process, where they will look at a number of people who meet the criteria (young, progressive & ambitious).
All we know is they've spoken to OGS, but haven't offered him the job, so there's no decision for him to make. Unless, of course he isn't interested. He has 2 years on his contract & as things currently stand he intends to stand by that. I would be mightily pissed off, if I was him, with how Molde have behaved. SSN & Talk shite won't let the facts get in the way of an 'exclusive'.
According to the Mail yesterday, we apparently spoke to Martinez on Thursday! Which I can't believe.
Let the process take its course.
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Blue = back
Pink = Lay
but your screen can be customised so hard to tell. Click on a price and see what it says. Just don't confirm until you're comfortable.
Blue = back
Pink = Lay
but your screen can be customised so hard to tell. Click on a price and see what it says. Just don't confirm until you're comfortable.
Cheers - so I click on the blue one. £10 liability and £41 profit - sounds right?
Jesus, my dad would be horrified if he saw me asking this!
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Just give me the money, its a dead deal.
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Remember ron saying he was staying at sheff weds and then jumping ship for villa days later- the lure of the villa is hard to resist!
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Cue the abuse ! We have had informal talks and of course we are interested but we do not want to go down a blind alley and want to interview others with similar qualities but without speaking to them how do we know if they will fit and share the same visions . My understanding is 2 others are in the frame and OSG Has not been ruled out and certainly not been offered the job to turn it down . There has been interest where 1 decent manager has thrown his hat in the ring but not sure if he is even an option !
Villa have no issue with the mis-reporting as its helping them do what they need to do without it being public and things are going under the radar . Villa wish that the OGS story wasn't in the public because he isn't the only candidate available and will lead all Villa fans to think he is the preferred and only choice . He is not the only option he never was !
My reading of the situation seems correct then, MM. Is there a chance the Villa board will see how popular the idea of OGS was to Villa fans and perhaps go with that a bit? Especially considering how unpopular the last appointment was.
They think we might be as happy with the other candidates but well aware of how popular he is with fans ! And no I haven't a clue who they are after but can't see it being Martinez they won't take the risk . I don't think the candiates are from any of the ones mentioned but thats just me
So that'd be a 'no' to Lambert? That's fascinating. They really are casting the net this time!
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Blue = back
Pink = Lay
but your screen can be customised so hard to tell. Click on a price and see what it says. Just don't confirm until you're comfortable.
Cheers - so I click on the blue one. £10 liability and £41 profit - sounds right?
Jesus, my dad would be horrified if he saw me asking this!
Yep, You got in at 5.1 (just under 4/1 after commission)
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I like him. Think he would definitely do a good job at Villa. He might do a great job... That's what I want from our appointments - someone who'll definitely be at least competent, but has the potential to go on and do really great things with us. Such a manager has to be one who favors an open attacking approach. The problem with many of the last Villa appointments is that they have all been a little too solid/steady and were always likely to do a good job (ie. 6th/7th league finishes) rather than allow for the possibility of doing a great job. I do not see a Solskjaer who is reasonably backed by Randy as too much of a risk - he'll certainly do better than McLeish, but he also offers the possibility of really having a crack at the top 4, in fact he strikes me as the kind of guy who will leave no stone un-turned until we achieve that aim, and then be pissed off cause we haven't won the league! This is the kind of attitude I'd like to see permeating the club as a whole. There are not many managers available to us, who could reasonably do this . Solskjaer is one. He may fail, but I think it's more than worth the risk...
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Blue = back
Pink = Lay
but your screen can be customised so hard to tell. Click on a price and see what it says. Just don't confirm until you're comfortable.
Cheers - so I click on the blue one. £10 liability and £41 profit - sounds right?
Jesus, my dad would be horrified if he saw me asking this!
Yep, You got in at 5.1 (just under 4/1 after commission)
Cheers!
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Welcome to the dark pit of gambling, JJ.
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I think it's going to be quite a protracted task for Randy. If OGS has ruled himself out then Randy will just have to plough on, he's tried to do the right thing and get somebody to fit the bill but our stock has fallen a fair bit so this is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than we think.
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I think it's going to be quite a protracted task for Randy. If OGS has ruled himself out then Randy will just have to plough on, he's tried to do the right thing and get somebody to fit the bill but our stock has fallen a fair bit so this is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than we think.
I suspect reading that press conference that if he's offered it, he won't turn it down.
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I think it's going to be quite a protracted task for Randy. If OGS has ruled himself out then Randy will just have to plough on, he's tried to do the right thing and get somebody to fit the bill but our stock has fallen a fair bit so this is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than we think.
I suspect reading that press conference that if he's offered it, he won't turn it down.
To be honest I haven't heard a lot about it, just received a lot of piss take text messages from Baggies and Spurs(?!?) fans saying that we're shit and he turned us down flat???
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I see Jan Aage Fjortoft has tweeted saying he thinks if Solskjær is offered the job he'll take it.
I started following him yesterday,think he's the best one to keep us up to date about OGS. And yes he seems to think that if he's offered it,he'll take it.
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I think it's going to be quite a protracted task for Randy. If OGS has ruled himself out then Randy will just have to plough on, he's tried to do the right thing and get somebody to fit the bill but our stock has fallen a fair bit so this is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than we think.
I suspect reading that press conference that if he's offered it, he won't turn it down.
To be honest I haven't heard a lot about it, just received a lot of piss take text messages from Baggies and Spurs(?!?) fans saying that we're shit and he turned us down flat???
Nah Sky and BBC massively jumped the gun and said he wasn't going to be manager. All he's said he hasn't been offered the job and it's up to Villa if we wish to pursue our interest. He's happy to stay at Molde for the remainder of his contract. So essentially it was very much a come and get me vibe coming across.
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Go and get him Randy!
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According to Talksport OGS is staying at Molde as he has not received any offers from Villa but if he does then he will have a decision to make. Hardly a definite no is it.
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Go and get him Randy!
Lets see who the other candidates are 1st, may be a huge and exciting shock to us all
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According to Talksport OGS is staying at Molde as he has not received any offers from Villa but if he does then he will have a decision to make. Hardly a definite no is it.
Sounds more like a yes if there's an offer.
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I think it's going to be quite a protracted task for Randy. If OGS has ruled himself out then Randy will just have to plough on, he's tried to do the right thing and get somebody to fit the bill but our stock has fallen a fair bit so this is going to be a hell of a lot tougher than we think.
I suspect reading that press conference that if he's offered it, he won't turn it down.
I'm not so sure anyone can say our stock has fallen on the basis of this. These are informal talks and nothing has been offered to anybody. OGS hasn't been offered the job as far as I can tell.
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Remember ron saying he was staying at sheff weds and then jumping ship for villa days later- the lure of the villa is hard to resist!
sadly, fella - i'm not sure it's as strong as it was... let's not forget the last 2 appointments - how i would LOVE to be a fly on the wall in any meetings/ interviews held by Faulkener & Mr Lerner...
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Go and get him Randy!
Lets see who the other candidates are 1st, may be a huge and exciting shock to us all
Indeed Eastie! There could be a surprise or two yet.
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Whoever, we need to move fast. Contracts are ending and we need to take advantage of every opportunity. Get him on board, back him, give him time. He can't do a worse job than that last fuckwit who shall not be named.
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Fair play to ogs for clarifying the situation- im sure if the statement hadnt neen changed his chance of getting the job would be over , but sky need to get their facts right , tinpot company!
No doubt ogs is still very much in the running but we will have more idea when we know who else is in the hunt.
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BBC have completely changed their angle now and say he'd consider us.
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BBC Sport now in reverse saying Ollie would "consider" the job....
No doubt it has ceased to be a story on Sky already.
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Go get him Randy!!
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Now on the BBC W/S that he wouldn't rule the Villa job ut if offered and it's up to the Villla!
I think it is a done deal but down to the clubs to agree compensation???
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I was out playing football when the odds went crazy, fuck sake. :/
He's our man if we want him. Presser says it all. Now up to the board to decide if he - or an other - is the best choice.
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Im sure i read somewhere that Martinez and Lambert are having talks this week.
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Seems the BBC and SSN are now back tracking on they're earlier exclusives that he'd snubbed the chance to manage us to stay at Molde. Replacing them with comments that reflect what was actually said.
He's ours if we want him, we just need to follow the process and choose the best candidate between OGS, Lambert & Martinez.
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Yes, he should be definitely be the one chasing us...
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I'm convinced he's a great candidate, a risk yes but no risk no reward.
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Stan Collymore talking about OGS. He just said he was wrong to have tweeted about OGS having turned down the job. He said Villa haven't offered him the job and that from his "contacts" in Norway that he would seriously consider it if offered.
Collymore's just an idiot who likes the sound of his own voice, or tweet.
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Seems the BBC and SSN are now back tracking on they're earlier exclusives
`Sky News - Never Wrong For Long'
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Stan Collymore talking about OGS. He just said he was wrong to have tweeted about OGS having turned down the job. He said Villa haven't offered him the job and that from his "contacts" in Norway that he would seriously consider it if offered.
Collymore's just an idiot who likes the sound of his own voice, or tweet.
Collymore blocked me for pointing this out. HE also had a go at people who questioned TalkSport's line "A lot of you seem to be able to speak Norwegian"
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Seems the BBC and SSN are now back tracking on they're earlier exclusives
`Sky News - Never Wrong For Long'
Some people never learn, take ssn with a pinch of salt!
Mysteryman thinks someone in the running who hasnt been mentioned- nigel adkins?
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Stan Collymore talking about OGS. He just said he was wrong to have tweeted about OGS having turned down the job. He said Villa haven't offered him the job and that from his "contacts" in Norway that he would seriously consider it if offered.
Collymore's just an idiot who likes the sound of his own voice, or tweet.
Collymore blocked me for pointing this out. HE also had a go at people who questioned TalkSport's line "A lot of you seem to be able to speak Norwegian"
You're probably a racist.
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Seems the BBC and SSN are now back tracking on they're earlier exclusives
`Sky News - Never Wrong For Long'
Some people never learn, take ssn with a pinch of salt!
Yes, imagine believing everything you see on Sky Sports News.
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Sky News say that Norwich are the only English team to beat BM in Europe!, silly me I forgot footy was not invented before 1992.
I'm in Oslo on Monday, will keep my ears open!!!
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Mysteryman thinks someone in the running who hasnt been mentioned- nigel adkins?
No offence but Mysteryman was on here with the last managerial upheaval and seemed to have as much inside knowledge as to who the next manager was likely to be as Pat Murphy and Stevie Wonder.
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Yes ok he has said he wants but interview Lambert and appoint Lambert if he wants the job. OGS as I said is managing at very low level compared to EPL.
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I say give him a chance, I want entertaining football at Villa.
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Stan Collymore talking about OGS. He just said he was wrong to have tweeted about OGS having turned down the job. He said Villa haven't offered him the job and that from his "contacts" in Norway that he would seriously consider it if offered.
Collymore's just an idiot who likes the sound of his own voice, or tweet.
Collymore blocked me for pointing this out. HE also had a go at people who questioned TalkSport's line "A lot of you seem to be able to speak Norwegian"
i'd rather speak ONE WORD of Norwegian than a load of bollocks...
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So what's changed since about 1:00? Haven't been able to watch tv or listen to the radio.
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Collymore has had to sacrifice his dignity to work for TalkSport. The station which was calling OGS `a done deal' on Thursday night, and by lunchtime today announcing that it was off. And now saying that maybe it's on, and maybe it's not.
What a collection of fucking jostlers.
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So what's changed since about 1:00? Haven't been able to watch tv or listen to the radio.
The news stations have taken a few minutes to work out what Ole *actually* said, and realised that he hasn't said no, because no offer is actually on the table.
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So what's changed since about 1:00? Haven't been able to watch tv or listen to the radio.
The news stations have taken a few minutes to work out what Ole *actually* said, and realised that he hasn't said no, because no offer is actually on the table.
And indeed, quite to the contrary, he's pretty much said "yes if you want me".
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So what's changed since about 1:00? Haven't been able to watch tv or listen to the radio.
The news stations have taken a few minutes to work out what Ole *actually* said, and realised that he hasn't said no, because no offer is actually on the table.
Thanks for informing.
I can probably bet SSN had the yellow ticker going when this was announced before realizing he hadn't actually said no to managing Villa. Morons.
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It's things like this that erode people's trust in journalists. They were slow out of the blocks on the story in the first place, because they decided it was just `internet gossip,' and a dreary, humdrum club like Villa was never going to do anything they didn't expect. But having caught up at last, they have to pretend they're one jump ahead by continually `calling' a decision which hasn't been made. It's embarrassing.
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So what's changed since about 1:00? Haven't been able to watch tv or listen to the radio.
We were all going ooh at the possibility of OGS,
SSN & Talkshite then suddenly started saying OGS has turned down the Villa job and the oohoing turned to aaarghing.
We interpreted the OGS statement as things are still ongoing and the oohing continued.
SSN & BBC have back-tracked and don't know shit and the Molde board have thrown a strop so a bit of booing followed.
Things are as they were with the original oohing so if he takes the job there will be a lot of cooing.
Now I'm going for a lie down.
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Im sure i read somewhere that Martinez and Lambert are having talks this week.
with Villa , or with each other (about why not to take the job) ?
ALL this is blah, blah bollox at this stage.
OGS ? yes, please - look at the poll here.
Let's HOPE Messrs Lerner & Faulkener don't mess up !
We are NOT the force we once were & we need to SELL
ourselves accordingly. Shrewd handling & a QUALITY
appointment is IMPERATIVE for the future of our club
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Yes ok he has said he wants but interview Lambert and appoint Lambert if he wants the job. OGS as I said is managing at very low level compared to EPL.
This.
A week ago lambert was the one many wanted, and ole wasnt in the picture, now it seems on the back of a youtube man utd programme he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I am inpressed with what ive seen of ogs in recent days but would still prefer lambert.
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Seems the BBC and SSN are now back tracking on they're earlier exclusives
`Sky News - Never Wrong For Long'
Some people never learn, take ssn with a pinch of salt!
Mysteryman thinks someone in the running who hasnt been mentioned- nigel adkins?
Roberts Di Matteo would be my outside choice. 20/1 and sorted Chelsea out when they were left in a mess. Maybe dependant on the Champs final result later tho.
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It's things like this that erode people's trust in journalists. They were slow out of the blocks on the story in the first place, because they decided it was just `internet gossip,' and a dreary, humdrum club like Villa was never going to do anything they didn't expect. But having caught up at last, they have to pretend they're one jump ahead by continually `calling' a decision which hasn't been made. It's embarrassing.
agreed. well put
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Mysteryman thinks someone in the running who hasnt been mentioned- nigel adkins?
No offence but Mysteryman was on here with the last managerial upheaval and seemed to have as much inside knowledge as to who the next manager was likely to be as Pat Murphy and Stevie Wonder.
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Heroes Discussion / Re: Who do you want as the next manager?
« on: May 16, 2012, 08:57:47 PM »
I wonder if anybody at VP has considered Brian McDermott or Nigel Adkins?
Both young*, vibrant and successful managers- I've just googled them so it must be true.
And he's 5th in the betting @ the moment. ITK? It'll be the first time, if I'm anywhere near with that sort of speculation!
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A week ago lambert was the one many wanted, and ole wasnt in the picture, now it seems on the back of a youtube man utd programme he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Perhaps we should ask Fergie, like last time...?
I could teach our lot a thing or two about
business tactics & negotiaions, I tell you...
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Martinez - No thanks, turned us down last year and has only just kept Wigan up again. I can't see what all the fuss is about this chap. Let Liverpool have him.
RDM - I still remember his time at WBA and he wasn't pulling up trees there before they sacked him. This thing with Chelsea is down to the team rather than his management skills in my opinion.
Lambert - A step up for him and would be interesting to see how it pans out.
OGS - This one appeals to me, young, ambitious, good contacts in the game, a surprise that we hadn't thought of. My only concern is would he stand up to the likes of Dunne/Collins (who seem to be the main troublemakers). Hopefully "Baby faced assassin" off the pitch as well.
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The 80% who are in favour would you forgive Randy for Mcleish if Ole is given the job?
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I'm convinced he's a great candidate, a risk yes but no risk no reward.
Agreed. Hindsight is risk free and its rewards are commensurate. Go get him.
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The 80% who are in favour would you forgive Randy for Mcleish if Ole is given the job?
Yes!!!
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A week ago lambert was the one many wanted, and ole wasnt in the picture, now it seems on the back of a youtube man utd programme he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I am inpressed with what ive seen of ogs in recent days but would still prefer lambert.
Spot on
I wouldn't want everyone complaining we don't go for OGS if we appoint Lambert. Especially when the evidence to support OGS as being the best candidate is what exactly?????
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The 80% who are in favour would you forgive Randy for Mcleish if Ole is given the job?
Everyone makes mistakes.
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The 80% who are in favour would you forgive Randy for Mcleish if Ole is given the job?
100% Yes!
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If it is going to happen, OGS will resign after the match tomorrow. He obviously has a great affinity with Molde and it is whether he feels he can break away now. If he is fiercely determined to make it as a top manager he will overcome loyalty to the club.
There was nothing in the press conference that said one way or another whether he will be our next manager or not.
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If it is going to happen, OGS will resign after the match tomorrow. He obviously has a great affinity with Molde and it is whether he feels he can break away now. If he is fiercely determined to make it as a top manager he will overcome loyalty to the club.
There was nothing in the press conference that said one way or another whether he will be our next manager or not.
Other than the fact he wasn't offered the job.
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Collymore has had to sacrifice his dignity to work for TalkSport.
You're telling me that the dogging, girlfriend beating, England rugby player punchbag still had some dignity to sacrifice?
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Collymore has had to sacrifice his dignity to work for TalkSport.
You're telling me that the dogging, girlfriend beating, England rugby player punchbag still had some dignity to sacrifice?
This is a fair point you make.
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If it is going to happen, OGS will resign after the match tomorrow. He obviously has a great affinity with Molde and it is whether he feels he can break away now. If he is fiercely determined to make it as a top manager he will overcome loyalty to the club.
There was nothing in the press conference that said one way or another whether he will be our next manager or not.
he wont resign if he hasnt been offered the job yet, which he hasnt because there are other candidates in the mix
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Spoke to some Villa fans earlier and a United fan... It seems like most thought Solskjaer would be good for us and it seems like most Villa fans would like the idea of him managing us. Good young manager etc.. the United fan was telling me all about how Solskjaer managed the United reserves and mentioned how him winning the league in Norway was all a bit of a surprise to a lot of people not really knowing about it.
It was good chatting some of them though and it was nice to hear them being open minded about Solskjaer managing us being able to see the bigger picture. At least I didn't have to hear the "hes not good enough for us" "we deserve better" nonsense.
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A week ago lambert was the one many wanted, and ole wasnt in the picture, now it seems on the back of a youtube man utd programme he is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
I am inpressed with what ive seen of ogs in recent days but would still prefer lambert.
Spot on
I wouldn't want everyone complaining we don't go for OGS if we appoint Lambert. Especially when the evidence to support OGS as being the best candidate is what exactly?????
I wrote those comments- not aftab!
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I wouldn't want everyone complaining we don't go for OGS if we appoint Lambert. Especially when the evidence to support OGS as being the best candidate is what exactly?????
He has gone into management and has progressed at the lower levels. He is inexperienced but many people in the game say he has what it takes to get to the top. He would appear to have a vision of playing a modern style of football. Twelve months ago what was the opinion of Rodgers and Lambert.
The vision I have of Villa is that we will never buy our way to the top so have to go with a manager that builds a team around what we develop through the academy so that the team grows in stature over a number of years.
OGS is inexperienced, probably a bit naive, but will take chances that more experienced managers would not as they show more safety first thinking. He will make mistakes but I would accept that if he can build a young united squad that believes in the club. He could be lucky and find 5 or 6 young players that develop into very good players together. This I believe is our only chance of breaking into the top four.
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I'll take OGS. I'd take Olga Korbett over McLeish or McCarthy!
and Sooty!
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Incidentally, that inexperience/naviety could be quickly nullified by appointing an experienced assistant manager.
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I wouldn't want everyone complaining we don't go for OGS if we appoint Lambert. Especially when the evidence to support OGS as being the best candidate is what exactly?????
He has gone into management and has progressed at the lower levels. He is inexperienced but many people in the game say he has what it takes to get to the top. He would appear to have a vision of playing a modern style of football. Twelve months ago what was the opinion of Rodgers and Lambert.
The vision I have of Villa is that we will never buy our way to the top so have to go with a manager that builds a team around what we develop through the academy so that the team grows in stature over a number of years.
OGS is inexperienced, probably a bit naive, but will take chances that more experienced managers would not as they show more safety first thinking. He will make mistakes but I would accept that if he can build a young united squad that believes in the club. He could be lucky and find 5 or 6 young players that develop into very good players together. This I believe is our only chance of breaking into the top four.
Top four? Top half would do me.
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If it is going to happen, OGS will resign after the match tomorrow. He obviously has a great affinity with Molde and it is whether he feels he can break away now. If he is fiercely determined to make it as a top manager he will overcome loyalty to the club.
There was nothing in the press conference that said one way or another whether he will be our next manager or not.
he wont resign if he hasnt been offered the job yet, which he hasnt because there are other candidates in the mix
He cannot accept an offer if he is still manager of Molde. Who is to say an offer has not been made. It could be that the club laid out the deal and said we would be very interested in you taking it up but go away and think about it. In this scenario the next move has to be from OGS and that means tendering his resignation. 'Other candidates' could be just a smoke screen.
At the end of the day, you do not know, I do not know and it is all speculation.
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I wouldn't want everyone complaining we don't go for OGS if we appoint Lambert. Especially when the evidence to support OGS as being the best candidate is what exactly?????
He has gone into management and has progressed at the lower levels. He is inexperienced but many people in the game say he has what it takes to get to the top. He would appear to have a vision of playing a modern style of football. Twelve months ago what was the opinion of Rodgers and Lambert.
The vision I have of Villa is that we will never buy our way to the top so have to go with a manager that builds a team around what we develop through the academy so that the team grows in stature over a number of years.
OGS is inexperienced, probably a bit naive, but will take chances that more experienced managers would not as they show more safety first thinking. He will make mistakes but I would accept that if he can build a young united squad that believes in the club. He could be lucky and find 5 or 6 young players that develop into very good players together. This I believe is our only chance of breaking into the top four.
Top four? Top half would do me.
Top half would do for me over the next 2 or 3 years but I am looking further into the future than that.
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If it is going to happen, OGS will resign after the match tomorrow. He obviously has a great affinity with Molde and it is whether he feels he can break away now. If he is fiercely determined to make it as a top manager he will overcome loyalty to the club.
There was nothing in the press conference that said one way or another whether he will be our next manager or not.
he wont resign if he hasnt been offered the job yet, which he hasnt because there are other candidates in the mix
He cannot accept an offer if he is still manager of Molde. Who is to say an offer has not been made. It could be that the club laid out the deal and said we would be very interested in you taking it up but go away and think about it. In this scenario the next move has to be from OGS and that means tendering his resignation. 'Other candidates' could be just a smoke screen.
At the end of the day, you do not know, I do not know and it is all speculation.
So basically are you calling him and villa liars?
No offer has been made yet as we have other candidates to speak with- it is very simple!
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The misinterpretted OGS interview of you haven't seen it. Seems like he's up for the job to me..
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Ive just come back from London. I first read this OGS news on a crowded commuter train. I was not impressed. I was of the opinion that Paul Lambert was a done deal and we had got the manager the majority wanted
I just dont see what he has done. Totally unproven in English football and why I ask has he not began in the lower leagues and built a reputation before moving upwards to a club of our size and history. Paul Lambert (who I now find is to be interviewed
early next week) has built a big reputation for attractive football and impresses me no end.
Before I went down south somewhere on this thread a post said never underestimate the Villa Board in their ability to get things wrong.
Can you seriously see Solskjaer getting any respect from the likes of Collins Dunne and N'Zogbia
If Paul Lambert isnt the chosen candidate it will be a travesty of justice!
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Lerner is thought to have been impressed by Solskjaer but the Villa owner has returned to the United States to consider whether to make him a formal offer straight away, or look at other candidates first.
I'd say this is close to where we're at atm. Based on his comments I think OGS will accept the job if he's offered it.
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If Paul Lambert isnt the chosen candidate it will be a travesty of justice!
I think you're confusing events at B6 with the Birmingham 6.
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Who says lambert is being interviewed this week? Has it been confirmed?
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Before I went down south somewhere on this thread a post said never underestimate the Villa Board in their ability to get things wrong.
Can you seriously see Solskjær getting any respect from the likes of Collins Dunne and N'Zogbia
If I was Collins,Dunne of N'Zogbia I'd be more worried about trying to impress somebody who has more trophies and medals at the very highest level than they will ever have between them.
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It's things like this that erode people's trust in journalists. They were slow out of the blocks on the story in the first place, because they decided it was just `internet gossip,' and a dreary, humdrum club like Villa was never going to do anything they didn't expect. But having caught up at last, they have to pretend they're one jump ahead by continually `calling' a decision which hasn't been made. It's embarrassing.
agreed. well put
That's what I was about to say (about Damon's post)
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If it is going to happen, OGS will resign after the match tomorrow. He obviously has a great affinity with Molde and it is whether he feels he can break away now. If he is fiercely determined to make it as a top manager he will overcome loyalty to the club.
There was nothing in the press conference that said one way or another whether he will be our next manager or not.
he wont resign if he hasnt been offered the job yet, which he hasnt because there are other candidates in the mix
He cannot accept an offer if he is still manager of Molde. Who is to say an offer has not been made. It could be that the club laid out the deal and said we would be very interested in you taking it up but go away and think about it. In this scenario the next move has to be from OGS and that means tendering his resignation. 'Other candidates' could be just a smoke screen.
At the end of the day, you do not know, I do not know and it is all speculation.
So basically are you calling him and villa liars?
No offer has been made yet as we have other candidates to speak with- it is very simple!
How can you draw that conclusion.
Villa are looking for a manager. Lerner will have talked about his vision for the club, what the club has etc., etc. He could have even talked about how much they might pay a manager and that there are other candidates but he will not move on to another until one has been discounted. It is still up to OGS then to say he would be interested in taking it further. In this way no offer has been made.
Some people think Lerner is stupid in football matters but he is an intelligent businessman and understands law.
I do not see how the above could make OGS a liar based on what I have heard him say today. As for the club, they have not commented so how can you say I am basically saying they are liars.
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Listening to that interview suggests to me that if offer made he will accept!!!!
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Not sure. Good name to be linked. And we will get plenty of press.
Not in the London Standard.There was a whole page about Liverpool. We merited two lines at the bottom of the page!!
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Before I went down south somewhere on this thread a post said never underestimate the Villa Board in their ability to get things wrong.
Can you seriously see Solskjær getting any respect from the likes of Collins Dunne and N'Zogbia
If I was Collins,Dunne of N'Zogbia I'd be more worried about trying to impress somebody who has more trophies and medals at the very highest level than they will ever have between them.
You are right about Collins and Dunne (and would add Warnock too) and perhaps they would see their future away from Villa Park. I think N'Zogbia would relish having OGS as manager.
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Lerner is thought to have been impressed by Solskjær but the Villa owner has returned to the United States to consider whether to make him a formal offer straight away, or look at other candidates first.
I'd say this is close to where we're at atm. Based on his comments I think OGS will accept the job if he's offered it.
On the surface it's hard to see OSG as being the first name on the list & 3 days ago nobody would have even contemplated it. But if he ticks all the boxes, Lerner is confident of this and that he'll accept, why waste time on others. I sense this will be completed early next week.
The club deserve credit for looking outside of the usual suspects. I'm confident that we won't be talking about whoever does come in the same terms as the previous occupant.
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Villa have not offered him the job - from the horses mouth- fact!
Hes said it himself and the club have released a statement clarifying the situation .
Thats not to say he wont be offered the job but at the moment he hasnt been, talk of him resigning tomorrow is pie in the sky.
Lets see who the other candidates are and what attributes they have- a week ago lambert was being cheered by our fans , let things take their course .
If after hes seen the others randy feels ole is the best man im sure he will get the offer so what is the problem waiting and letting randy do the job.
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I like the fact that it seems like he wants the job.
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Listening to that interview suggests to me that if offer made he will accept!!!!
Definitely, offer him it Randy.
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As a quick aside - congratulations to Gary Cahill starting tonight!!!! Shame he didnt hang around to reach the final in 4 years time under the stewardship of OGS!!!
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Well Ive read the first twenty pages of this thread and was surprised how many of you seem to want him
Well I want Paul Lambert as the next Villa manager A PROVEN TALENT!
and I would very much like to see Faulkners services dispensed with.
By the way as I have been away since Wednesday does anyone know if Grant is still there?
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Well Ive read the first twenty pages of this thread and was surprised how many of you seem to want him
Well I want Paul Lambert as the next Villa manager A PROVEN TALENT!
and I would very much like to see Faulkners services dispensed with.
By the way as I have been away since Wednesday does anyone know if Grant is still there?
Faulkner should be sacked for casting his search further? I applaud him for it. Also Solsjkaer has was the league with a team that had never won it, that proves something.
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I just think its great were looking at a young manager. I'd prefer OGS don't know why just excitement of something different.If its Lambert that would excite me as well
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Well I want Paul Lambert as the next Villa manager A PROVEN TALENT!
A decent manager, has progressed through the leagues and has got Norwich to midtable but a proven talent?
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Ive just come back from London. I first read this OGS news on a crowded commuter train. I was not impressed. I was of the opinion that Paul Lambert was a done deal and we had got the manager the majority wanted
I just dont see what he has done. Totally unproven in English football and why I ask has he not began in the lower leagues and built a reputation before moving upwards to a club of our size and history. Paul Lambert (who I now find is to be interviewed
early next week) has built a big reputation for attractive football and impresses me no end.
Before I went down south somewhere on this thread a post said never underestimate the Villa Board in their ability to get things wrong.
Can you seriously see Solskjær getting any respect from the likes of Collins Dunne and N'Zogbia
If Paul Lambert isnt the chosen candidate it will be a travesty of justice!
I'd say yes he would command the respect. To be honest I'm hoping all three will be booted out as soon as whoever comes in. I'd quite like OGS but Lambert has also done a decent job with Norwich. Both are still very inexperienced(OGS more so)but I think both will bring a feelgood factor and air of optimism which has been severley lacking for some years.
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The misinterpretted OGS interview of you haven't seen it. Seems like he's up for the job to me..
Thanks for that :-) Did anyone else notice the solitary flag waver in the background? lol
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Agree with you john, and grant went with mcleish on monday.
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Well Ive read the first twenty pages of this thread and was surprised how many of you seem to want him
Well I want Paul Lambert as the next Villa manager A PROVEN TALENT!
and I would very much like to see Faulkners services dispensed with.
By the way as I have been away since Wednesday does anyone know if Grant is still there?
A proven talent? What talent has he proven over OGS?
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Before I went down south somewhere on this thread a post said never underestimate the Villa Board in their ability to get things wrong.
Can you seriously see Solskjær getting any respect from the likes of Collins Dunne and N'Zogbia
If I was Collins,Dunne of N'Zogbia I'd be more worried about trying to impress somebody who has more trophies and medals at the very highest level than they will ever have between them.
You are right about Collins and Dunne (and would add Warnock too) and perhaps they would see their future away from Villa Park. I think N'Zogbia would relish having OGS as manager.
Collins, Dunne and warnock away from villa park? Yes friggin please.
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John, a travesty of Justice? Really? There is nothing to suggest Lambert would even come! Besides, read Norwich forums about his style. It might make you realise why there are a few of us that are not that keen on MON mark 2.
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
Couldn't agree more. Impressed me greatly. Also seemed very honest - he didn't fudge any answers to to the questions.
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
Couldn't agree more. Impressed me greatly. Also seemed very honest - he didn't fudge any answers to to the questions.
Yes, we want Ole.
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let's get it done, he clearly is just waiting for the offer!
Would want OGS to appoint an assistant with some pedigree mind.
Exciting times ahead folks! Up the mighty Villa!!!
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
Couldn't agree more. Impressed me greatly. Also seemed very honest - he didn't fudge any answers to to the questions.
Yes, we want Ole.
We could start a 'We want Ole' page on Facebook...........only problem is I'm not signed up to Facebook.........
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Sign up, then.
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Sign up, then.
Can't see the point. I'll leave it to my son to start one!
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Ole was 1/10 yesterday went to 4/1 in St williams earlier and is back to evens. Has someone been backing him?
Lambert is 2nd Fave at 2/1 but can get 7/2 in places. Martinez now 12/1. Rodgers now 4/1 in places. kenny d is 33/1 now. Klinsmann also 33/1..no hope there then, unless Randy's Lear jet is doing round trips. It is a bit non-Brummie all that private jet shit..why can't he trade it in and get a proper player to take us to the heights?
Anyway if I see 4/1 again on Ole I'll have it.
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Sign up, then.
Can't see the point. I'll leave it to my son to start one!
He's on the case right now...............
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http://www.facebook.com/WeWantOleForVilla 8) 8) 8)
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Likes...
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'support', not 'supports'
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Brian, if you had been logged in to H&V you would have been well ahead of the betting market. Some of the finest analytical minds of our generation have been on this one. It's been like a Platonic Symposium, with optional seminars on Norwegian idiom, body language and business etiquette.
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Or supporters...
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'support', not 'supports'
Thank you. My son has been 're-educated' !!!
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We'll discuss the omission of the apostrophe tomorrow!
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We'll discuss the omission of the apostrophe tomorrow!
Are you a teacher??? He is now banished to his room for bringing Facebook shame on the family........
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We'll discuss the omission of the apostrophe tomorrow!
Are you a teacher??? He is now banished to his room for bringing Facebook shame on the family........
Yes. See me tomorrow.
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It's things like this that erode people's trust in journalists. They were slow out of the blocks on the story in the first place, because they decided it was just `internet gossip,' and a dreary, humdrum club like Villa was never going to do anything they didn't expect. But having caught up at last, they have to pretend they're one jump ahead by continually `calling' a decision which hasn't been made. It's embarrassing.
agreed. well put
That's what I was about to say (about Damon's post)
Me too. Once in a while it would be nice if people actually stopped slagging the board and back them for so far being spot on in their interview process. They are doing exactly what they should be doing to get the right candidate. Just because the press can't keep up, or because they think we should be hiring from the managerial scrap heap leads them to stick their nose up at us. They end up looking the fools and back tracking their stories. Even fans like Collymore are made to look stupid due their so called contacts getting it wrong. The board might have made some costly mistakes but my take is that they are playing this one superbly.
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It's things like this that erode people's trust in journalists. They were slow out of the blocks on the story in the first place, because they decided it was just `internet gossip,' and a dreary, humdrum club like Villa was never going to do anything they didn't expect. But having caught up at last, they have to pretend they're one jump ahead by continually `calling' a decision which hasn't been made. It's embarrassing.
agreed. well put
That's what I was about to say (about Damon's post)
Me too. Once in a while it would be nice if people actually stopped slagging the board and back them for so far being spot on in their interview process. They are doing exactly what they should be doing to get the right candidate. Just because the press can't keep up, or because they think we should be hiring from the managerial scrap heap leads them to stick their nose up at us. They end up looking the fools and back tracking their stories. Even fans like Collymore are made to look stupid due their so called contacts getting it wrong. The board might have made some costly mistakes but my take is that they are playing this one superbly.
Indeed. This is nail biting excellent stuff. The press have flubbed a thrilling story. Ah well sod em. The football press cant have any less respect than they already do :)
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Good post Damon, sums it up well. Incidentally, as a retired teacher, with a degree in English, I too despair over the use of the apostrophe, possessive or otherwise.
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It's things like this that erode people's trust in journalists. They were slow out of the blocks on the story in the first place, because they decided it was just `internet gossip,' and a dreary, humdrum club like Villa was never going to do anything they didn't expect. But having caught up at last, they have to pretend they're one jump ahead by continually `calling' a decision which hasn't been made. It's embarrassing.
I think it's the obsession with having to be 'first' whether the information you report is correct or not, that impacts on the quality of news reporting. Sky News, with their brilliant self promotion have a lot to answer for imo.
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I think we're playing it awfully.
I was sure I read a few posts slagging Racist FC off for doing what we're doing.
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It appears MOlde have just released OGS's answers to the the questions.
Utterly disgraceful to breach trust like that but it's clear he'll come if we want him.
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It appears MOlde have just released OGS's answers to the the questions.
Utterly disgraceful to breach trust like that but it's clear he'll come if we want him.
Not read much today, who's breached who's trust?
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http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A//fotball.rbnett.no/eliteserien/article237310.ece
Saturday night, MFK Director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen in Rbnett with the answers from Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - so Jacobsen reproduces them from the conversation.
1. Will you lead the MFK of the season?
- It's a hypothetical question, but I get an offer, I will travel as soon as I can - probably after the game against Hønefoss.
2. If / when you go from MFK, will you bring someone from the support of MFK?
- I want to bring Mark (Dempsey) and Richard (Hartis).
3. If / when you go from MFK, will you take with you some of MFK's players?
- Yes, I want to make an offer to Magnus Wolff Eikrem.
- Furthermore, I confronted Ole Gunnar that he would not take such a situation had developed on Thursday evening (May 17th). If he went by plane the next day, it would possibly have consequences. In my experience this, this was a ordrenekt of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer said MFK Director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen Rbnett.
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The owners of Molde said they had 3 questions for OSG following his meeting with RL.
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Molde have released the answers to the 3 questions they asked Ole. If he is offered the job, he will be the new manager. Lets hope they get it done.
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So he'd go if he got an offer, would take two of his coaching team and would come back for 1 player
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I never expected we would hear the answers to those questions but very interesting none-the-less. Right I'm off to you tube to see more of this Magnus Wolff Eikrem.
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The relationship between him and his board is fast declining now.
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Which is their board's fault, not his and certainly not ours! They gave OGS and RL permission to talk, what did they expect?
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If Randy Lerner want OGS, I reckon he will be here, especially if the funding has gone from Molde. Quite excited at teh thought to be honest, heard a little moan from Collymore about internet fans earlier when driving, what a plonker that bloke is
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Oh yeah, completely their fault. Rokke kicked up a fuss and now the board are in disarray.
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Interesting answers but a terrible breach of trust. Shame for the Molde fans having to watch their club behaving so badly like this.
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Is it really worth talking to Paul Lambert? We should have quite a good idea of what we would get from him and if OGS was impressive enough in his meeting, should we just go and get him?
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It's early here so i've not followed the whole thread but I really don't get this.
Molde gave RL permission to speak with OGS. They have talks. Molde throw their toys and the owner threatens to walk away becasue of the talks.
Point 1) How is this RL's fault?
Point 2) If you were OGS, would you want to keep working for an owner who behaves like this?
Point 3) What are Molde thinking, does the owner just want a conveinient excuse to get out? Why did they grant permission in the first place?
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@RealJohnARiise3 Håper Ole G Solskjær får jobben Utrolig sutring fra Mfk
Trans:I hope Ole gets the job. Unbelievable whinging, Molde #avfc
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Of course we should talk to Lambert. And Martinez. Why damage one club when you can damage three?
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I get the impression the club doesn't have just one owner but rather it's one of their backers who has had problems with this. OGS also commented that he thinks the guy was going to pull his support whether this had happened or not.
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Of course we should talk to Lambert. And Martinez. Why not cause maximum damage to one club when you can do it to three?
Fair enough as long as we don't end up damaging ourselves by taking too long to do something or risk losing what might arguably be the first choice candidate by inaction.
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The only conclusion from all this is that the job's his to lose.
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I wasn't being entirely serious OCD. I think it's ludicrous and could be seen as arrogant to be asking multiple candidates to damage their relationship with their fans, players and directors for a chance of the Villa job.
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I agree we should'nt tit around - if OGS is our first choice and he wants to come lets get it done.
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I wasn't being entirely serious OCD. I think it's ludicrous asking multiple candidates to damage their relationship with their fans, players and directors for a chance of the Villa job.
No worries - trying to spot sarcasm in a forum isn't the easiest thing to do, at least not unless you know the poster and what their views are.
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I imagine it was agreed nothing would be made formal until after the next Molde game. That's what I'm guessing anyway.
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Time for hasty translations!
This is perhaps the most interesting article I've spotted so far in Norwegian media, from the biggest paper in Norway, VG (http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/norsk/artikkel.php?artid=10061788):
THESE ARE SOLSKJÆR'S THREE ANSWERS, SUPPOSEDLY
(AP) Tonight Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen has revealed Ole Gunnar Solskjær's responses to Kjell Inge Røkke three questions.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær received three questions from Aker owner Kjell Inge Røkke before he traveled to Birmingham on Friday.
When it was announced that Aston Villa wanted to talk to Ole Gunnar Solskjær, Aker owner and one of Molde's most important partners Røkke, asked three questions. The answers supposedly weren't received well, and eventually was one of the factors that Aker is now pulling out of Molde after this season.
- This is perceived as incompatible with the MFK community we are both a part of, Røkke, Aker ASA's chairman and principal owner, said in a statement Friday.
- I thought we were going to look ahead
Saturday night Solskjær learned that VG press publiciced the responses to the three questions that Røkke wanted answered.
- So those were these answers I "did not produce," grins Ole Gunnar Solskjær - with reference to Akers press release Friday that said that "the questions were not answered by Solskjær."
- I thought we agreed that we should call it quits and look ahead after the press conference in Molde, he says when he calls VG during extra time in the Champions League final.
- Now we see what game is really played here.
Solskjær is a bit distraught to learn that his three answers to Røkke and Molde leadership has come to VG.
- It was a confidential conversation between us, says the manager.
- I had hoped that I did not have to comment on this any more now.
- Will travel as soon as I can
According to Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen, which reproduces the responses to VG, Solskjær said the following on the three questions from Røkke:
1. Will you lead Molde of the season?
- It's a hypothetical question, but if the job is offered to me, I will travel as soon as I can - probably after the game against Hønefoss (next Friday).
2. If / when you go from MFK, will you take with you some of the support in MFK?
- I want to bring Mark (Dempsey) and Richard (Hartis) (the two coaches that Solskjær took to Molde).
3. If / when you go from MFK, will you take with you some of MFKs players?
- Yes, I want to make an offer to Magnus Wolff Eikrem.
Solskjær's comment:
- It's hard to remember everything I said, but this renders the truth, "roughly," he says, but he would like to emphasize several things about his answer to the first question:
- My answer was that if Aston Villa will have a new manager and they want me, and I agree, they can not wait until after the season. It will naturally take place in the Norwegian holiday. Most likely with Hønefoss as the last match. A new manager must be in place when preparation for the new season starts. It is the natural point of time.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær expresses consternation that the matter continues to roll:
- We had good internal talks Saturday and agreed to look ahead. We were supposed to end this with the press conference after the training, because we have work to do.
The fact that this comes out benefits no one in the club, says boss Solskjær.
- What do you think about this?
- Who's acting honestly and decently, is up to everyone to consider thoroughly.
- What do you say to Tarje N. Jacobsen characterization as "refusal to follow orders" that you went to Aston Villa?
- He never refused me to go, but he said there could be consequences if I left.
Look at the bold part in the middle of the article! As I have said before, he's ours if we want him.
(edit: corrected a few spelling errors and a google mistranslate)
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Of course we should talk to Lambert. And Martinez. Why damage one club when you can damage three?
Can I be the first to suggest Percy as DOF? This is the kind of thinking we need.
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I dont want Whelan spouting off again about us, is Martinez really that good to be honest, there was talk of him going before the last 10 games and how many years has he had? Whelan is publicity seeker and to spout off that he had given him permission to talk to Liverpool does him no credit at all IMO. Lambert I like, but there is something intriguing about OGS and hope we can get him in.
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i would imagine the whole thing is still up in the air, nobody knows where they stand because we are still talking to other candidates,
how someone like Lambert must feel knowing all this stuffs being carrying on i dont know
this seemingly American way of doing things is the reason Rogers said no to Liverpool in my view, he just didnt want to be part of the circus, if they went for him and offered him the job he would have taken it, no one in there right mind wouldnt leave Swansea for Liverpool
it leaves managers in a very vulnerable position, no one goes to a job interview and tells there boss 'i'm just of to try and get a better job, if i dont get it i'l still keep working here dont worry' its ludicrous
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Spot on john e.
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It's only the stuff with the private jet that has led us to know any of this at all. Lambert could already have been interviewed at some golf course in Northants for all we know.
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I think it's a done deal, and the club have left off offering it him straight off to see how the fans react.
I'd say the pretty much unanimous support for the move will see it sealed on Monday.
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Like I said we have played this really well. Lambert would have been a great addition, and even though this might appear riskier it has captured all of our imaginations. Hope this is all wrapped up soon. What a fun summer this is going to be.
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It's only the stuff with the private jet that has led us to know any of this at all. Lambert could already have been interviewed at some golf course in Northants for all we know.
That's a good point.
If it weren't for some bloke on VillaTalk being an air traffic controller at BHX, we'd have known absolutely nothing of this. We might have spoken to Lambert at the Linton Travel Tavern three weeks ago for all we know.
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Of course we should talk to Lambert. And Martinez. Why damage one club when you can damage three?
Can I be the first to suggest Percy as DOF? This is the kind of thinking we need.
Randy's jet could come in handy - dump Martinez, Lambert and a few others on remote islands then tell Ole he's got the job.
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i would imagine the whole thing is still up in the air, nobody knows where they stand because we are still talking to other candidates,
how someone like Lambert must feel knowing all this stuffs being carrying on i dont know
this seemingly American way of doing things is the reason Rogers said no to Liverpool in my view, he just didnt want to be part of the circus, if they went for him and offered him the job he would have taken it, no one in there right mind wouldnt leave Swansea for Liverpool
it leaves managers in a very vulnerable position, no one goes to a job interview and tells there boss 'i'm just of to try and get a better job, if i dont get it i'l still keep working here dont worry' its ludicrous
It's all part of the game. We say we're talking to others in case he turns us down. He says he's happy for the moment in case the job isn't offered to him. They both know where they really stand.
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It's only the stuff with the private jet that has led us to know any of this at all. Lambert could already have been interviewed at some golf course in Northants for all we know.
That's a good point.
If it weren't for some bloke on VillaTalk being an air traffic controller at BHX, we'd have known absolutely nothing of this. We might have spoken to Lambert at the Linton Travel Tavern three weeks ago for all we know.
what you really think that no one would notice what was ging on in Molde when Randy's billionare jet landed, i'm sure they are used to that sort of thing every day of the week !
it would have been leaked without a doubt
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What a fun summer this is going to be
Aint it typical of Villa that our summers are more exciting than our playing seasons?
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That latest Norwegien Newspaper article is pretty much an 'i'm on my way' declaration.
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I think it's a done deal, and the club have left off offering it him straight off to see how the fans react.
I'd say the pretty much unanimous support for the move will see it sealed on Monday.
I agree. Deal will be sealed on Monday I think.
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A Norwegian business contact of mine, who is a Villa fan, and a sportsbook manager, so knows a fair bit about Scando football said this to me "If Solskjaer signs I am 110% sure he will bring along Magnus Wolff Eikrem and Davy Claude Angan as well."
I've no idea who those two are.
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I haven't seen it anywhere other than the bastion of truth "The Daily Star" that we are talking to Lambert next week. Where did they get that information from? From the looks of it they've spoken or sounded out their candidates and have acted on thenone they want the most.
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A Norwegian business contact of mine, who is a Villa fan, and a sportsbook manager, so knows a fair bit about Scando football said this to me "If Solskjær signs I am 110% sure he will bring along Magnus Wolff Eikrem and Davy Claude Angan as well."
I've no idea who those two are.
Eikrem is an attacking midfieler that used to be at Man U. No idea who the the other bloke is.
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i would imagine the whole thing is still up in the air, nobody knows where they stand because we are still talking to other candidates,
how someone like Lambert must feel knowing all this stuffs being carrying on i dont know
this seemingly American way of doing things is the reason Rogers said no to Liverpool in my view, he just didnt want to be part of the circus, if they went for him and offered him the job he would have taken it, no one in there right mind wouldnt leave Swansea for Liverpool
it leaves managers in a very vulnerable position, no one goes to a job interview and tells there boss 'i'm just of to try and get a better job, if i dont get it i'l still keep working here dont worry' its ludicrous
It's all part of the game. We say we're talking to others in case he turns us down. He says he's happy for the moment in case the job isn't offered to him. They both know where they really stand.
well i hope you are right,
it just seems to me we are in a whole world of confusion,
but i fully accept that i am only going on what i read on here, so i dont really know whats going on behind the scenes
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Well the General knows all about the air traffic bloke so they can't plead ignorance on that one.
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Yes. It's a subtle bit of unsubtlety, isn't it.
Looks like Molde have given Solskjaer plenty of reasons to resign, though.
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ae ae ae ae ae Solskjær
Ha ha, solskjaer spelling filter, love it
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ae ae ae ae ae
I'm a bit miffed that nobody has so much as tipped a hat to my tweaking of the word filter yesterday to turn 'Solskj ae r' to Solskjær.
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ae ae ae ae ae Solskjær
Ha ha, Solskjær spelling filter, love it
oooh!
A late edit noticing it!
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Just worked it out Paulie, brilliant stuff
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Well the General knows all about the air traffic bloke so they can't plead ignorance on that one.
They must be aware that every time that plane moves someone's on one of these boards spouting off.
They knew we'd know, and then they'd know if we liked.
We like, and money comes back through the gates. Everyone's a winner.
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"Chairman Øystein Neerland says that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer's meeting with Aston Villa has been a disappointment for the club.
Neerland confirms that the club was informed about the contact with the Premier League club, but are not satisfied with the way the case has been handled.
- We were made aware of the interest and the talks, but it was still disappointing he chose to travel to England on Friday to meet Aston Villa now..."
Trond Hustad, Rbnett.no
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My missus, typical Norwegian, is lying here in bed defending Molde because 'your ste-yupid Eston Villar are so ruuuude'
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Who knows, maybe OGS will find himself dithering over whether to take the job or not, then decide to see if he'd have the support of the fans, check this place out, and think "fuck me, they even know how to write my name with our Scando ae nonsense. I'll sign.".
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My missus, typical Norwegian, is lying here in bed defending Molde because 'your ste-yupid Eston Villar are so ruuuude'
So very Norwegian of her.
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Meanwhile Molde are in talks with another sponsor, so they will be alright.
Molde loses their coach, manager, main benefactor and main sponsor, all within one week, and all over these "three questions". Rokke has played an absolute fucking blinder.
btw "Call Collymore". Always feel the need to finish those two words with "a c***".
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It's fucking alarming. He could be lurking in his vest and pants at this very second, sweating with dismay and wondering if he could possibly patch things up with Rokke
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Gompers, you don't know the half of it. It's two days since Independence Day and my piss still smells of asparagus.
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Meanwhile Molde are in talks with another sponsor, so they will be alright.
Molde loses their coach, manager, main benefactor and main sponsor, all within one week, and all over these "three questions". Rokke has played an absolute fucking blinder.
btw "Call Collymore". Always feel the need to finish those two words with "a c***".
I might take you up on that.
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My missus, typical Norwegian, is lying here in bed defending Molde because 'your ste-yupid Eston Villar are so ruuuude'
Take your Villa shirt off, maybe then your good lady will be more amenable to whatever it is you are suggesting.
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£30m for OGS is being mentioned on Twitter by @jpkvilla.
Is he still playing? Seems a lot Dave.... :)
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My missus, typical Norwegian, is lying here in bed defending Molde because 'your ste-yupid Eston Villar are so ruuuude'
Take your Villa shirt off, maybe then your good lady will be more amenable to whatever it is you are suggesting.
Leave the wristbands on though.
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I'm going to renegotiate her contract for her if she's not careful.
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£30m for OGS is being mentioned on Twitter by @jpkvilla.
A jar of Damon's asparagus piss will suffice I'm sure.
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I'm going to renegotiate her contract for her if she's not careful.
What would be your three questions?
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£30m for OGS is being mentioned on Twitter by @jpkvilla.
Is he still playing? Seems a lot Dave.... :)
Whisper it 'war chest.'
He could probably bring his team with him for that, which might not be a bad shout.
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If he doesn't get or take the Villa job, it sounds like he won't be at Molde for very long. I can't believe the way their board have behaved.
I've warmed to him the more I read about he methods and personality. I'd be disappointed if it fell through or we chose to go for the likes of Lambert instead.
To save anyone else looking at Wiki ...
Magnus Wolff Eikrem - 21, Norwegian international. Moved from Molde to ManU as a youngster and then back again last year. Attacking midfielder and a bit spotty.
Mark Dempsey 48 - coach. Played one game for ManU before doing the rounds of the lower leagues, was coach with youth setup at ManU before moving to Molde.
Richard Hartis - 44, Goalkeeping coach. Never a professional footballer, most recently goalkeeping coach in ManU's youth setup before moving to Molde.
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£30m for OGS is being mentioned on Twitter by @jpkvilla.
Says "The Bald Eagle", to his 14 followers.
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Re the Press.
Here's a classic from The Birmingham Post:
Confusion reigned this afternoon when parts of Solskjaers press conference with the Norwegian media was seemingly lost in translation as it reached England.
Some outlets, including the Birmingham Mail website, carried a Press Association report erroneously suggesting the 39-year-old had rejected Villas advances.
However, after several checks with trusted Norwegian sources present throughout the press conference, it became clear Solskjaer had done no such thing.
Read More http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-birmingham-sport/west-midlands-sports/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/19/aston-villa-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-still-the-main-contender-after-day-of-confusion-97319-31005948/#ixzz1vMXEuU2w
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Well, reflecting on a goddamn crazy day, it's hard to reach any other conclusion than that Ole wants to be our manager, and that we really think he'd be good for the job. Instead of instinctively going against the fans' wishes, as they did last season, I hope they listen to us on this, because I believe most Villa fans who support OGS' candidacy are as on to something as Lerner for approaching him.
Go for it, make it happen, perhaps pull off the managerial appointment coup of the decade.
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Well, reflecting on a goddamn crazy day, it's hard to reach any other conclusion than that Ole wants to be our manager, and that we really think he'd be good for the job. Instead of instinctively going against the fans' wishes, as they did last season, I hope they listen to us on this, because I believe most Villa fans who support OGS' candidacy are as on to something as Lerner for approaching him.
Go for it, make it happen, perhaps pull off the managerial appointment coup of the decade.
It shows a bit of clever, left-field thinking, which is precisely what they need to do after the dogs fucking dinner of last summer.
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Well, reflecting on a goddamn crazy day, it's hard to reach any other conclusion than that Ole wants to be our manager, and that we really think he'd be good for the job. Instead of instinctively going against the fans' wishes, as they did last season, I hope they listen to us on this, because I believe most Villa fans who support OGS' candidacy are as on to something as Lerner for approaching him.
Go for it, make it happen, perhaps pull off the managerial appointment coup of the decade.
It shows a bit of clever, left-field thinking, which is precisely what they need to do after the dogs fucking dinner of last summer.
Indeed. It also shows they're trying to appoint a manager based on a ruthless approach to logical criteria, not on the basis of some half-garbled nonsense about 'Premier League experience' or what have you.
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It shows a bit of clever, left-field thinking, which is precisely what they need to do after the dogs fucking dinner of last summer.
Well said, Pæulie.
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A Norwegian business contact of mine, who is a Villa fan, and a sportsbook manager, so knows a fair bit about Scando football said this to me "If Solskjær signs I am 110% sure he will bring along Magnus Wolff Eikrem and Davy Claude Angan as well."
I've no idea who those two are.
Eikrem is highly rated by the Norwegian media; Angan I've never heard of, but I'd still rather have him than Grant "one-season-wonder-at-31" Holt.
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It shows a bit of clever, left-field thinking, which is precisely what they need to do after the dogs fucking dinner of last summer.
Spot on.
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What kind of manager will OSG be like and how is his footballing style amd approach. I think Darren Bent would love it. Maybe he will score more goals than Ronaldo, Messi next season for Villa :)
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Well, reflecting on a goddamn crazy day, it's hard to reach any other conclusion than that Ole wants to be our manager, and that we really think he'd be good for the job. Instead of instinctively going against the fans' wishes, as they did last season, I hope they listen to us on this, because I believe most Villa fans who support OGS' candidacy are as on to something as Lerner for approaching him.
Go for it, make it happen, perhaps pull off the managerial appointment coup of the decade.
It shows a bit of clever, left-field thinking, which is precisely what they need to do after the dogs fucking dinner of last summer.
A bit too clever and far too left field for my liking. I see no logic here than Fergie Consultancy service in operation. If club is happy to appoint a League 1 standard manager than fine however I am sure we can do better from home or abroad.
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Repeatedly saying that he is a 'League One standard manager' doesn't make it true.
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"Aston Villa is such a fantastic great club......."
I like the cut of his jib.
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
Couldn't agree more. Impressed me greatly. Also seemed very honest - he didn't fudge any answers to to the questions.
All the attributes mentioned above applied to McLeish as well.
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Repeatedly saying that he is a 'League One standard manager' doesn't make it true.
It's like saying Mcleish was a prem standard manager last year because that's the league he opperated in.
Of in 20 years time he's still in league 1 then we can assume that's his natural level, but not now, we don't know what level he is, we might be about to find out
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How many seasons had Moyes done in the Premier league? How many had Lambert and Rodgers before last season? OGS is very highly rated, has built a really young side, and has got good experience of working with youngsters.
As far as I can see, Lambert has not encouraged interest at all so far, apart from an aloof interview after our game there, which Norwich fans say is standard from him anyhow.
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
Couldn't agree more. Impressed me greatly. Also seemed very honest - he didn't fudge any answers to to the questions.
All the attributes mentioned above applied to McLeish as well.
Nah, McLeish was a chancer and it showed.
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Repeatedly saying that he is a 'League One standard manager' doesn't make it true.
Haha.... However if you say something repeatedly it becomes perceived reality even if not true!
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I'm agreeing with Dave there BTW
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Like I said we have played this really well. Lambert would have been a great addition, and even though this might appear riskier it has captured all of our imaginations. Hope this is all wrapped up soon. What a fun summer this is going to be.
All our imaginations? Speak for yourself I would much prefer Paul Lambert!
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Like I said we have played this really well. Lambert would have been a great addition, and even though this might appear riskier it has captured all of our imaginations. Hope this is all wrapped up soon. What a fun summer this is going to be.
All our imaginations? Speak for yourself I would much prefer Paul Lambert!
I'm genuinely exited at the prospect of either, which is in stark contrast to the last couple of times we were at this point.
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Agree with you john, and grant went with mcleish on monday.
Grants gone now that is good news. I was in central london yesterday in a pub called The Salisbury. Drinking Thwaites Wainwright since you ask. I got talking to a group of Chelsea supporters and pointed out that we had already beaten Bayern Munich in a European Cup Final and thought they had a chance of winning. The bloke nearest to me said "It will go to penalties and Drogba will score the winner".......bloody hell!
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Agree with you john, and grant went with mcleish on monday.
Grants gone now that is good news. I was in central london yesterday in a pub called The Salisbury. Drinking Thwaites Wainwright since you ask. I got talking to a group of Chelsea supporters and pointed out that we had already beaten Bayern Munich in a European Cup Final and thought they had a chance of winning. The bloke nearest to me said "It will go to penalties and Drogba will score the winner".......bloody hell!
Hope he had money on it... that was 17/1...
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A Norwegian business contact of mine, who is a Villa fan, and a sportsbook manager, so knows a fair bit about Scando football said this to me "If Solskjær signs I am 110% sure he will bring along Magnus Wolff Eikrem and Davy Claude Angan as well."
I've no idea who those two are.
The child in me doesn't care - I just want a Villa player called The Wolff!
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From Matt Kendrik
OGS wants the job
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2012/05/19/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-i-want-to-manage-aston-villa-97319-31006416/
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Is this the same interview from yesterday as there appears to be more meat on the bones.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2146746/Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-rejects-Aston-Villa.html
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Youtube video of Solskjaer to wile away a few minutes.
Sorry if it has already been posted.
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ae
just checking something
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how do you do that ?
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Paulie has fixed it so that if you type anything vaguely like Solskjaer, it comes out right
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Solskjaer
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solskjaer
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Ha, so cool
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ha ha, got there in the end
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that is class paulie
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Yeah but how did you just get the 'ae' thingy together without the other letters of his name around it?
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Solskjear
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You have to make a reindeer noise as you type the letters
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Ole stll evens with Lambert 2-1/5-2.
The had better not fluff this up.
Ole is looking for better terms and a bigger transfer fund no doubt. Maybe his 'wants' are even too much for a private jet owning Chairman. Don't send the jet again Randy! Obviously not impressed by glam then! I like the man!
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Solskyar
Hope he comes now after all that effort Paul :)
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Your all talking out of your ærses
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Solskjaer.
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Solskjær.
look it even works in Ireland
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Summing up the season just gone, I'd just like to say.................... Sulkyear
EDIT - Ha! Take that Paulie
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Solskyar
Hope he comes now after all that effort Paul :)
Try again:
Solkjar
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Ingen poxy helter og skurker moderator skal fortelle meg hvordan jeg skulle stave solksjaer
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Solskjaer
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Solskyar
Hope he comes now after all that effort Paul :)
Try again:
Solkjar
How close are you supposed to be for it to work?
3rd time lucky:
Solksjar
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Solskjær.
look it even works in Ireland
'tis great!
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I'm trying not to think about all of this too much.
I recall getting very excited when it was rumoured that we would be getting a certain Mr O'Neill - and look how that ended!
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solkjar
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solksjar
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Is this the same interview from yesterday as there appears to be more meat on the bones.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2146746/Ole-Gunnar-Solskjær-rejects-Aston-Villa.html
Also a story about Lambert opening the door to speak to Aston Villa but he does not say that
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solsjar
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solsjar
#fail
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SoldShay
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Solskjear.......solksjar......gunnar solksjar....ole gunnar solksjearr
How are you, sir? You see, I speak Norwegian well. I learn it from a website... Hello... I am Norwegian... Helloooo...
(http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/RoCslBHMDfM/hqdefault.jpg)
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What time is the Molde game? Will be interested to see how that pans out.
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What time is the Molde game? Will be interested to see how that pans out.
5pm? 6pm? ish
http://www.worldfootball.net/spielbericht/tippeligaen-2012-sandnes-ulf-molde-fk/liveticker/
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What time is the Molde game? Will be interested to see how that pans out.
Are you not going over to cover it? I want an exclusive itn interview with Ole tonight!
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Fjortoft now tweeting that Molde have confirmed Solskjaer's answer to the 'three questions'.
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He'll join...
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Who ....Soulstar?
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He'll join...
If we want him to. I have to say, this is a pretty big opportunity for us to do something different. If we don't take this now, it will be a stupid mistake and one I fear we'll really regret.
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What time is the Molde game? Will be interested to see how that pans out.
Are you not going over to cover it? I want an exclusive itn interview with Ole tonight!
link to game here
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123611/1/watch-sandnes-ulf-vs-molde-fk.html
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Fjortoft now tweeting that Molde have confirmed Solskjær's answer to the 'three questions'.
And here they are!
Here is the questions, and answers given by Ole:
Will you be in charge of MFK for the remainder of the season?
- That is a hypothetical question, but if I get an offer, I will leave as soon as possible, most likely after the match against Hønefoss.
If/when you leave, will you take any of the staff with you?
- I will take Mark Dempsey and Richard Hartis.
If/when you leave, do you intend to take any of the players with you?
- Yes, I will give an offer to Magnus Wolff Eikrem.
Sounds very specific after a brief chat? Especially the bit about wanting to take the player!
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I honestly can't work out why Molde are behaving like this.
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A Norwegian business contact of mine, who is a Villa fan, and a sportsbook manager, so knows a fair bit about Scando football said this to me "If Solskjær signs I am 110% sure he will bring along Magnus Wolff Eikrem and Davy Claude Angan as well."
I've no idea who those two are.
Eikrem is highly rated by the Norwegian media; Angan I've never heard of, but I'd still rather have him than Grant "one-season-wonder-at-31" Holt.
Where did you get one season wonder from?
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What time is the Molde game? Will be interested to see how that pans out.
Are you not going over to cover it? I want an exclusive itn interview with Ole tonight!
link to game here
http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123611/1/watch-sandnes-ulf-vs-molde-fk.html
Will the moderators being seperate pre-match, match, and post-match threads for this? What about guess the crowd too?
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What a horrible club they appear to be.
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I honestly can't work out why Molde are behaving like this.
Trying to side with the sponsors and discredit solskjaer to keep the $$$. I feel sorry for the bloke he's done very little wrong really.
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Julius Caesar.
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Julius Solskcaesar.
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Then again Norwegians are much less squeamish than us about washing their dirty laundry in public. They like having things out in the open.
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What a horrible club they appear to be.
Small Molde Alliance
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Then again Norwegians are much less squeamish than us about washing their dirty laundry in public. They like having things out in the open.
Smorgasbord. The open sandwich.
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The answers are impressive......(for a League 1 standard manager) ;)
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Surely if you are a club in a league such as the Norwegian you are used to bigger fish poaching your best players and managers?
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
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Will you be in charge of MFK for the remainder of the season?
- That is a hypothetical question, but if I get an offer, I will leave as soon as possible, most likely after the match against Hønefoss.
They play Hønefoss 28th May. No game then until 20th June.
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Surely if you are a club in a league such as the Norwegian you are used to bigger fish poaching your best players and managers?
Was that intentional ?
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I am still unsure to be honest.
I watched that documentary and loved the way his side played. Really quick ball into feet with lots of triangular movement. But then is the quality of opposition up to much in stopping it? But then again... if he can get players of a lesser standard to move the ball surely we can do the same?
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Will you be in charge of MFK for the remainder of the season?
- That is a hypothetical question, but if I get an offer, I will leave as soon as possible, most likely after the match against Hønefoss.
They play Hønefoss 28th May. No game then until 20th June.
Their league has a break at that point I think?
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
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Seeing that Interview, he comes over as a very articulate and intelligent man.
Couldn't agree more. Impressed me greatly. Also seemed very honest - he didn't fudge any answers to to the questions.
All the attributes mentioned above applied to McLeish as well.
I disagree. McLeish continually fudged his answers, refused to accept things were going badly and towards the end attempted to shift blame.
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Like I said we have played this really well. Lambert would have been a great addition, and even though this might appear riskier it has captured all of our imaginations. Hope this is all wrapped up soon. What a fun summer this is going to be.
All our imaginations? Speak for yourself I would much prefer Paul Lambert!
Lambert would just feel incredibly boring to me now, which is probably a little unfair as hes done a great job at Norwich.
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
Believe
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out of the famous 3, Lambert, Martinez and Rogers, Lambert was always my 3rd chioce anyway,
although i still think there is a good chance we might get him if things go wrong in the land of the Vikings
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Well we know what the fans we all be dressed up as last game of the season If we get him .
Should be fun .
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Molde are acting very strangely. Come on Randy just give Ole the job, we pretty much all want him and I think it could be an inspired appointment.
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Offer him the effing plane Randy and let him park it at Elmdon!! He can bring his bike to get to Bodymoor.
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
Agree totally, I'm personally willing to stick my head up and be on record to say that, if he signs, he'll go on to be one our most successful managers and will definitely bring trophies to the club. His football ethos aligns perfectly with that of our youth and reserves which means a few key signings for the first team and then keeping the kids involved will put the squad in a much more stable place than it's been for the last couple of years.
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Will be interesting to see what happens in terms of the coaching staff - and how players react to any changes we make (which could be badly). Could we bring in the two coaches, and keep Sid and Kevin too? Not sure
But I'm liking what I see in terms of the philosophy of the game.
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direct link to translated local newspaper, http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRomsdalsBudstikke%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Dimvns&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=http://fotball.rbnett.no/eliteserien/article237310.ece&usg=ALkJrhhZS3P9YCc_Yqe-YEJtxPfi_40XOg
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He'll need serious investment to bring trophies, we are competing against a lot of good teams at the moment. What i think he will do though is at least steer us away from the lower reaches and play some decent football, if there is no money thats about the best we can hope for i'm afraid. If Randy does get the chequebook out again then i would feel fairly confident that we can compete with the Tottenham / Arsenal / Liverpool / Newcastle / Everton area 4th - 8th in the league and outside chance of a cup win.
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He'll need serious investment to bring trophies, we are competing against a lot of good teams at the moment. What i think he will do though is at least steer us away from the lower reaches and play some decent football, if there is no money thats about the best we can hope for i'm afraid. If Randy does get the chequebook out again then i would feel fairly confident that we can compete with the Tottenham / Arsenal / Liverpool / Newcastle / Everton area 4th - 8th in the league and outside chance of a cup win.
Every club is in same position, there is no way anyone can keep up with the Man Ctiy's and Chelsea's, I include ManUre in that too, with the Glazers taking any profit they make to pay the bills they created they bought them. We can just hope any manager that comes in can get us to a European place at best.
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Lets get it done this week so we can all concentrate on our holidays and look forward to the pre - season games !
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What a horrible club they appear to be.
Small Molde Alliance
LIKE! They remind me of the bitter porn dwarves, minus the cak beard and Russian hat.
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He'll need serious investment to bring trophies, we are competing against a lot of good teams at the moment. What i think he will do though is at least steer us away from the lower reaches and play some decent football, if there is no money thats about the best we can hope for i'm afraid. If Randy does get the chequebook out again then i would feel fairly confident that we can compete with the Tottenham / Arsenal / Liverpool / Newcastle / Everton area 4th - 8th in the league and outside chance of a cup win.
Every club is in same position, there is no way anyone can keep up with the Man Ctiy's and Chelsea's, I include ManUre in that too, with the Glazers taking any profit they make to pay the bills they created they bought them. We can just hope any manager that comes in can get us to a European place at best.
Yeah, the way i think it'll go for next season will be bracket 1 - Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea any of which could win the league and bracket 2 - Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton competing for 4th place / europa / domestic cup, and if we spend some money with the right manager we could gatecrash that 2nd bracket. I don't think there is anyone else that could at the moment, QPR maybe in a few years when they are better established.
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He'll need serious investment to bring trophies, we are competing against a lot of good teams at the moment. What i think he will do though is at least steer us away from the lower reaches and play some decent football, if there is no money thats about the best we can hope for i'm afraid. If Randy does get the chequebook out again then i would feel fairly confident that we can compete with the Tottenham / Arsenal / Liverpool / Newcastle / Everton area 4th - 8th in the league and outside chance of a cup win.
I disagree, I don't think there are a lot of good teams at all. Yes, of course there is the two Manchesters, Arsenal on their day, Spurs if they can keep hold of their players and Harry, Chelsea who are not as good as they were despite last night and then it tails off very quickly in my view. It's never been easier to make an impression on the league in my view if we can all pull together, install some confidence and start playing something akin to 21st century style football. Passing and moving would be a considerable improvement
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Thats 5 good teams you mention, Newcastle have too many good players to be 1 season wonders, Liverpool have good players and money (they need to find the right manager) and Everton always prove the doubters wrong. All i'm saying is that OGS will be a good choice but we won't compete with those teams without investment as well. We have a shockingly shit squad at the moment, he can only polish that turd so much with better tactics and better management.
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Thats 5 good teams you mention, Newcastle have too many good players to be 1 season wonders, Liverpool have good players and money (they need to find the right manager) and Everton always prove the doubters wrong. All i'm saying is that OGS will be a good choice but we won't compete with those teams without investment as well. We have a shockingly shit squad at the moment, he can only polish that turd so much with better tactics and better management.
Nope, still don't agree! There's always 5 clubs up and around the top who are difficult to get in amongst but I think at least a couple of those could be quite vulnerable next season - namely Spurs and Chelsea. That's not to suggest we will be up at that level but beating these types of clubs may well be easier if things pan out. I took your suggestion of 'lots' to mean just that. Newcastle may well only be one season wonders and in my view, Liverpool don't have many good players at all and nor am I sure that they have that money to throw at buying anything above the level of what they have. The second half of your post would, however, be very difficult to argue with - though again an injection of confidence and a run of decent results can have an amazing effect in turning things around. You never know!
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What time is the Molde game? Will be interested to see how that pans out.
5.00 BST kick off
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Yep, he may like his teams to pass but he's gonna get nowhere with most of that defence. They're incapble of it. I hope he's kept an eye on english football because if he takes the job with no money and doesn't realise how crap they are then he's gonna struggle
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He'll need serious investment to bring trophies, we are competing against a lot of good teams at the moment. What i think he will do though is at least steer us away from the lower reaches and play some decent football, if there is no money thats about the best we can hope for i'm afraid. If Randy does get the chequebook out again then i would feel fairly confident that we can compete with the Tottenham / Arsenal / Liverpool / Newcastle / Everton area 4th - 8th in the league and outside chance of a cup win.
Every club is in same position, there is no way anyone can keep up with the Man Ctiy's and Chelsea's, I include ManUre in that too, with the Glazers taking any profit they make to pay the bills they created they bought them. We can just hope any manager that comes in can get us to a European place at best.
Yeah, the way i think it'll go for next season will be bracket 1 - Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea any of which could win the league and bracket 2 - Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton competing for 4th place / europa / domestic cup, and if we spend some money with the right manager we could gatecrash that 2nd bracket. I don't think there is anyone else that could at the moment, QPR maybe in a few years when they are better established.
Exactly, I would put a caveat around ManUre - while AF is the manager, their current squad is poor and need investment, but even though it pains me to say it, he's the one reason they are as good as they are. Also, there may be other clubs that may be invested in by a rich sugar daddy, hopefully we are one of them... wink.
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I think Arsenal will flit between bracket 1 and 2.
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Yeah, the way i think it'll go for next season will be bracket 1 - Man City, Man Utd, Chelsea any of which could win the league and bracket 2 - Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool, Newcastle, Everton competing for 4th place / europa / domestic cup, and if we spend some money with the right manager we could gatecrash that 2nd bracket. I don't think there is anyone else that could at the moment, QPR maybe in a few years when they are better established.
I don't think Chelsea will or come close to winning the League next season. Manu will challenge but city will win again. On the ongoing debate the best that our new manger can do is keep us top of that rest just below Manu city arsenal Chelsea spurs and lpool and Newcastle. Anything better than 8th would be an achievement above expectation.
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Not sure about this one and it really could be a terrible decision or an inspired one.
i think it was dave woodhall on a different thread (Sorry if not you but you criticised my sheep jokes elsewhere so I may just have you on my radar!!! I could say you were bleating about my sheep jokes, but won't lol) who when there was talk of good up and coming managers asked the question to name one such manager who has sustained a career in the top flight after one good season. He then later went on to say that Solskjær could get us into the CL. Based on nothing but that he was the very good up and coming manager type that he was rallying against earlier.
Now my point isn't an anti-dave woodhall one but rather that there's something about this one. Just something that is difficult to explain why but it just feels right. Not because he's ex-Man U (wouldn't want Hughes), or that he's won the CL (Wouldn't want Di Matteo) but that it excites(unlike lambert - who could also be used in the won the CL category).
Any managerial appointment is a risk. We could get Mourinho and as unlikely as it may be it could just as easily go wrong as right. Lets plan for the future. Lets get someone bright eyed and bushy tailed who may, just may, get us believing in Randy, the board as a whole, and Proud History and Bright Future again. It almost feels like it could be 2006 again. We are willing to try and back Randy and the rest of them and somehow Solskjær feels like it could be the start of something.
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United will win it if they get 4 players in that Fergi wants, they threw it away this season, I can't see them doing so next.
Arsenal will be down to whether RVP stays.
Chelsea need massive rebuilding. Mourinho's team gasped one last gasp last night, and have hit the ceiling.
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I would dispute strongly that Chelsea are in bracket 1. Unless the Russian invests strongly again this summer, they are definitely going to be making up bracket 2. I see them having a very hard fall in the next year or two, as many of their prime performers are about to exceed their Sell By date. I kind of see their Euro win as a high water mark, at least for a few years. There is still rank indiscipline at that club, it's just that RDM has come in and appeased the mob rule there - lets see how they are when they need to make a few changes (which is now). For the next couple of years I see it as being City and Utd as being the main rivals - below that it might actually be gloriously competitive for the remaining CL places. Get things right here and we could be shooting for these targets...
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
The poor form of Gabby and N'Zogbia can be layed directly at the feet of Mc£eish. They are both creative players and do not play well in a side that puts the shackles on them.
They'll be far, far better under the next Manager.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
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Chelsea may not be there next season as I think there will a lot of changes, new manager, players coming in / leaving. But RA will invest. It will be interested to see what Fergie gets to spend, I don't think they can spend 50m on a player though...
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I would dispute strongly that Chelsea are in bracket 1. Unless the Russian invests strongly again this summer, they are definitely going to be making up bracket 2. I see them having a very hard fall in the next year or two, as many of their prime performers are about to exceed their Sell By date. I kind of see their Euro win as a high water mark, at least for a few years. There is still rank indiscipline at that club, it's just that RDM has come in and appeased the mob rule there - lets see how they are when they need to make a few changes (which is now). For the next couple of years I see it as being City and Utd as being the main rivals - below that it might actually be gloriously competitive for the remaining CL places. Get things right here and we could be shooting for these targets...
Sort of the point I was making in my earlier posts. There may be opportunities if, and it is a big 'if', we can get our act together. Things can change surprisingly quickly, albeit that the two Manchester clubs are likely to reign supreme
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Chelsea have been outstanding since De Matteo took over, they would be fools to not give him the chance next season. The one difficulty they will have is replacing Drogba, but if they do that successfully they will challenge for sure.
Agree on Arse, if RVP stays then they'll probably stay top 4, but without him they'll slip away badly. Agree on Man U as well, fergie is the only reason they are still right at the top, shame he doesn't piss off really and see how good they are then.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
At least they are thinking 'outside the box'. I think it is an inspired choice. Will we get him is the question.
It gives me hope that they are not 'messing' now.
Greatness will come again from fresh blood and inspired thinking!
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
I'm not so sure N'Zogbia would fit in with Ole's style. If he likes quick, short passing where his teams keep the ball moving, then would a player who likes to run with it so much, often ignoring his team mates, get much of a game?
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Chelsea have been outstanding since De Matteo took over, they would be fools to not give him the chance next season. The one difficulty they will have is replacing Drogba, but if they do that successfully they will challenge for sure.
Agree on Arse, if RVP stays then they'll probably stay top 4, but without him they'll slip away badly. Agree on Man U as well, fergie is the only reason they are still right at the top, shame he doesn't piss off really and see how good they are then.
They have in the cups, but it has been attritional backs to the wall stuff a lot of the time, and that squad are old now in the main part. I think Di Matteo has done brilliantly winning what he has, but their league form has not been that good, and it will cost him. You are right though, replacing Drogba is the big issue, and that they need 2 wingers of quality.
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The Manager coming in is only half the story, whoever it is will need sufficient funds to buy around 7 players.
It remains to be seen if Lerner will supply the necessary cash.
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
I'm not so sure N'Zogbia would fit in with Ole's style. If he likes quick, short passing where his teams keep the ball moving, then would a player who likes to run with it so much, often ignoring his team mates, get much of a game?
I think he could be coached. I would be more worried about Gabby than Nzogbia, but time will tell. I think Bent, NZogbia, Bannan, Ireland, Gardner, Carruthers and Makoun will be the biggest winners. It will certainly be interesting to see an attack minded manager with some of the current squad, although whoever it is will still need to get 6 players in this summer I reckon.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
Gross had no experience of English football though. I would say it's a bit of a gamble but one i would be glad to see us make. I would certainly be happier than i was with the last 2 appointments. The only realistic one i would prefer is Lambert, but not by a great deal. I think he would be the safer bet, but not as exciting, thats what football is all about.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
The logic is we pick someone who is believed to be one of the next top coaches in Europe and get them in now, rather than wait until they reach their potential and have offers from established CL clubss.
It's a risk, but it's not illogical.
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Other than the Christian Gross part, that's very much my take on it.
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The Manager coming in is only half the story, whoever it is will need sufficient funds to buy around 7 players.
It remains to be seen if Lerner will supply the necessary cash.
yep. no cash and we'll struggle whoever comes in
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
The thing is, you can say that 'without the United connection nobody would want him', but that's assuming that the United connection is irrelevant. The fact is that he didn't just play under Ferguson - unlike the other supposed proteges of Ol' Red Nose, he's actually coached under him. It's that old thing when Fergie endorses one of the former players who've gone on to be average managers: you say to him "alright, if he's so good, why didn't you hire him"? Because Fergie is a ruthless winner who doesn't let sentiment get in the way. He hired Solskjaer as a coach, mentored him, first mentioned him as a good potential manager when he was 27 and so on. Solskjaer is a good potential manager for us because of everything about him.
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
I'm not so sure N'Zogbia would fit in with Ole's style. If he likes quick, short passing where his teams keep the ball moving, then would a player who likes to run with it so much, often ignoring his team mates, get much of a game?
I think he could be coached. I would be more worried about Gabby than Nzogbia, but time will tell. I think Bent, NZogbia, Bannan, Ireland, Gardner, Carruthers and Makoun will be the biggest winners. It will certainly be interesting to see an attack minded manager with some of the current squad, although whoever it is will still need to get 6 players in this summer I reckon.
I'm not writing him off, but it's more a mentality thing where he'll need to be less selfish and more of a team player.
Agree Makoun could be a big winner if we do land Ole!
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The Manager coming in is only half the story, whoever it is will need sufficient funds to buy around 7 players.
It remains to be seen if Lerner will supply the necessary cash.
yep. no cash and we'll struggle whoever comes in
Maybe so but I'd be happier with a coach/manager who wants to see N'Zogbia do the bulk of his work in the final third and not the first two-thirds.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
The logic is we pick someone who is believed to be one of the next top coaches in Europe and get them in now, rather than wait until they reach their potential and have offers from established CL clubss.
It's a risk, but it's not illogical.
Gross was highly rated too. Just no-one had heard of him. If it was announced tomorrow that Lerner has flown to say Finland or Belguim to interview the managers of their league champions, would everyone say "Brilliant get him in"? Course not, however good his record was or how great his football is. Thats what worries me about OGS - we're choosing him on his playing career not his manageriul ability
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
The logic is we pick someone who is believed to be one of the next top coaches in Europe and get them in now, rather than wait until they reach their potential and have offers from established CL clubss.
It's a risk, but it's not illogical.
Gross was highly rated too. Just no-one had heard of him. If it was announced tomorrow that Lerner has flown to say Finland or Belguim to interview the managers of their league champions, would everyone say "Brilliant get him in"? Course not, however good his record was or how great his football is. Thats what worries me about OGS - we're choosing him on his playing career not his manageriul ability
No, we are not.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
It's a risk, everyone knows that, but his teams play the way he talks the game, that's a big difference to most of the managers available. I'd trust him to come in and get us playing the way he wants, I also beleive that his style will be successful in english football.
Aside from that he's been given 2 chances at management and has won the league on both occasions, add to that the "doesn't know when he's beaten" attitude that he always showed as a player and you can see that he's a winner to the core. For all the good things in our squad/club the one that's really missing is the winning mentality that exists at clubs like Man U. If he can bring that and get our squad believing in themselves after the air of defeatism that's lingered around B6 for a year then he'll be off to a great start.
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with a massive majority of posters in favour of OGS, including me.
it would be worth keeping this thread on speed dial for when in 6 months time we are all moaning like twats again if it all goes wrong,
i remember the same things were being said about N'Zogbia before he signed, but now its ' why did Mcleish buy him he's rubbish' queitly forgetting we were all crying out for his signature at the time.
hindsight is a great thing, we ought to have the names of those for and against so we can name and shame depending on how it all turns out
We were right to be excited about N'Zogbia. This time, if he's still here, we may have a manager who will show why we were excited.
I'm not so sure N'Zogbia would fit in with Ole's style. If he likes quick, short passing where his teams keep the ball moving, then would a player who likes to run with it so much, often ignoring his team mates, get much of a game?
I think he could be coached. I would be more worried about Gabby than Nzogbia, but time will tell. I think Bent, NZogbia, Bannan, Ireland, Gardner, Carruthers and Makoun will be the biggest winners. It will certainly be interesting to see an attack minded manager with some of the current squad, although whoever it is will still need to get 6 players in this summer I reckon.
I've got a feeling Delfoneuso could end up being a big winner under OGS. He was the reserve manager the season we played Utd in the reserve final and Nath bagged a couple and loomed lively. Maybe OGS will remember this and bring out his potential. Agree with Makoun and N'zogbia.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
The logic is we pick someone who is believed to be one of the next top coaches in Europe and get them in now, rather than wait until they reach their potential and have offers from established CL clubss.
It's a risk, but it's not illogical.
Gross was highly rated too. Just no-one had heard of him. If it was announced tomorrow that Lerner has flown to say Finland or Belguim to interview the managers of their league champions, would everyone say "Brilliant get him in"? Course not, however good his record was or how great his football is. Thats what worries me about OGS - we're choosing him on his playing career not his manageriul ability
Cobblers, Greg.
He knows the EPL, has coached a team in the English game for 30 months and has learned his trade in England. And - as someone above has said - unlike McL, Bruce, et al Rednose actually hired him to coach; he hasn't simply verbally endorsed him.
I absolutely agree, he's a risk; but he's not an unknown managerial non-entity.
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I think Greg does have a good point. But I think his playing career, experience of the Premier League and working under Ferguson for 10 years will enable him to have a better chance of success over here.
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Ive just had a brilliant idea. Why dont we tell OGS and Lambert to look elsewhere and sign....
David Moyes on a 10yr contract with 10mil to spend...and hed still make a huge success of it!
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I'll be honest, now that OGS is on the radar, I'll be more than a little disappointed if he doesn't come manage us. I think he's worth taking the risk on.
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Whoever becomes the manager, it will be no hiding place for some of the squad. Players like Delfouneso, N'Zogbia and Bannan will have to hit the ground running if selected.
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Looking at the Molde squad, he does seem to have gone very much for a youthful look. Got Ekram from United youth, and this Josh Gatt kid who it would appear is as fast as anything we have down the wing and really highly rated by USA but Ole told them he is not ready for International football. If he comes I can see him trying to bring a couple of his side with him to see if they can step up.
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Ive just had a brilliant idea. Why dont we tell OGS and Lambert to look elsewhere and sign....
David Moyes on a 10yr contract with 10mil to spend...and hed still make a huge success of it!
And he would come because?
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Whoever becomes the manager, it will be no hiding place for some of the squad. Players like Delfouneso, N'Zogbia and Bannan will have to hit the ground running if selected.
Not sure about Delfouneso, but I believe that Bannan will benefit hugely from a manager like OGS. N'Zogbia, as John M'Zog mentioned, will have to work to focus his abilities more towards team play than his individual runs.
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Whoever becomes the manager, it will be no hiding place for some of the squad. Players like Delfouneso, N'Zogbia and Bannan will have to hit the ground running if selected.
I think a lot of them have had it quite easy Dave which is why I was annoyed with McLeish coming and say next season they need to pull their finger out. McLeish rightly was criticised for many things but there are players like Bannan, N'Zogbia and Fonz that got away scot free. They didn't do the club any favours with their attitude and performance. And I'm not singling them out, there were lots of others that are just as guilty. The new boss will not only have change the mood of the club, but have the backing of the board to cut losses and get rid of the bad apples as quickly as possible.
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Whoever becomes the manager, it will be no hiding place for some of the squad. Players like Delfouneso, N'Zogbia and Bannan will have to hit the ground running if selected.
Not sure about Delfouneso, but I believe that Bannan will benefit hugely from a manager like OGS. N'Zogbia, as John M'Zog mentioned, will have to work to focus his abilities more towards team play than his individual runs.
Bannan's issue is his head and ego. He has all of the talents to make it if he really wants. I think it's more him than any coaching. He'll benefit from a change of management if he really wants to.
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Whoever becomes the manager, it will be no hiding place for some of the squad. Players like Delfouneso, N'Zogbia and Bannan will have to hit the ground running if selected.
Not sure about Delfouneso, but I believe that Bannan will benefit hugely from a manager like OGS. N'Zogbia, as John M'Zog mentioned, will have to work to focus his abilities more towards team play than his individual runs.
Bannan's issue is his head and ego. He has all of the talents to make it if he really wants. I think it's more him than any coaching. He'll benefit from a change of management if he really wants to.
Have to say, if I'm Bannan and I have McLeish as my manager, playing ultra-defensive boofball and constantly telling the press that I'm not good enough (indirectly, when talking collectively about all the younger players), I'm not going to be too motivated to ever do anything really. His head is the problem, the ego only so in the sense that his confidence must be shot.
His relatively good season came under GH. He's had nobody else in his senior career who cared about teaching him the values of the slow game, the patient passing approach, how to build tempo and when to play the big pass. In addition to the frantic approach under Eck, he'd get so little of the ball (especially from the bench) that he'd feel under pressure to play Big Passes everytime he got it. OGS will hopefully teach him how to play more calmly - then I believe we'll have some player on our hands.
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With Bannan, it might be as simple as giving him more game time and playing him in a role that he's more comfortable with (i.e. not wide right). If Bannan had played for Swansea this past season, people's views of him would probably be very different.
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I hope you are right Monty, and I'm sure a lot of players got swept away last year with the misery surrounding the place. Let's hope that the impending positive change, be it Solskjaer or Lambert lifts the clouds on some careers that seemingly have lost their way a bit.
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direct link to translated local newspaper, http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3DRomsdalsBudstikke%26hl%3Den%26prmd%3Dimvns&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=http://fotball.rbnett.no/eliteserien/article237310.ece&usg=ALkJrhhZS3P9YCc_Yqe-YEJtxPfi_40XOg
It might have slipped the attention of many in here, but I brought a translation of a basically corresponding article many pages ago. Even though I don't aspire to do translations for a living it should be much more readable to you Brits than a mindless google translate. For the benefit of hopefully some of you, here's a revisit with a few additional errors fixed:
Time for hasty translations!
This is perhaps the most interesting article I've spotted so far in Norwegian media, from the biggest paper in Norway, VG (http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/norsk/artikkel.php?artid=10061788):
THESE ARE SOLSKJÆR'S THREE ANSWERS, SUPPOSEDLY
(AP) Tonight Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen has revealed Ole Gunnar Solskjær's responses to Kjell Inge Røkke three questions.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær received three questions from Aker owner Kjell Inge Røkke before he traveled to Birmingham on Friday.
When it was announced that Aston Villa wanted to talk to Ole Gunnar Solskjær, Aker owner and one of Molde's most important partners Røkke, asked three questions. The answers supposedly weren't received well, and eventually was one of the factors that Aker is now pulling out of Molde after this season.
- This is perceived as incompatible with the MFK community we are both a part of, Røkke said in a statement Friday.
- I thought we were going to look ahead
Saturday night Solskjær learned that VG press published the responses to the three questions that Røkke wanted answered.
- So those were these answers I "did not produce," grins Ole Gunnar Solskjær - with reference to Akers press release Friday that said that "the questions were not answered by Solskjær."
- I thought we agreed that we should call it quits and look ahead after the press conference in Molde, he says when he calls VG during extra time in the Champions League final.
- Now we see what game is really played here.
Solskjær is distraught to learn that his three answers to Røkke and Molde leadership has come to VG.
- It was a confidential conversation between us, the manager says.
- I had hoped that I did not have to comment on this any more now.
- Will travel as soon as I can
According to Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen, which reproduces the responses to VG, Solskjær said the following on the three questions from Røkke:
1. Will you lead Molde of the season?
- It's a hypothetical question, but if the job is offered to me, I will travel as soon as I can - probably after the game against Hønefoss (next Friday).
2. If / when you go from MFK, will you take with you some of the support in MFK?
- I want to bring Mark (Dempsey) and Richard (Hartis) (the two coaches that Solskjær took to Molde).
3. If / when you go from MFK, will you take with you some of MFKs players?
- Yes, I want to make an offer to Magnus Wolff Eikrem.
Solskjær's comment:
- It's hard to remember everything I said, but this renders the truth, "roughly," he says, but he would like to emphasize several things about his answer to the first question:
- My answer was that if Aston Villa will have a new manager and they want me, and I agree, they can not wait until after the season. It will naturally take place in the Norwegian holiday. Most likely with Hønefoss as the last match. A new manager must be in place when preparation for the new season starts. It is the natural point of time.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær expresses consternation that the matter continues to roll:
- We had good internal talks Saturday and agreed to look ahead. We were supposed to end this with the press conference after the training, because we have work to do.
The fact that this comes out benefits no one in the club, says boss Solskjær.
- What do you think about this?
- Who's acting honestly and decently, is up to everyone to consider thoroughly.
- What do you say to Tarje N. Jacobsen characterization as "refusal to follow orders" that you went to Aston Villa?
- He never refused me to go, but he said there could be consequences if I left.
Look at the bold part in the middle of the article! As I have said before, he's ours if we want him.
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With Bannan, it might be as simple as giving him more game time and playing him in a role that he's more comfortable with (i.e. not wide right). If Bannan had played for Swansea this past season, people's views of him would probably be very different.
Agreed, I think Rodgers is another one who'd do well with Wee Barry. I'd say he certainly has more natural gifted than, say, Leon Britton.
I hope you are right Monty, and I'm sure a lot of players got swept away last year with the misery surrounding the place. Let's hope that the impending positive change, be it Solskjær or Lambert lifts the clouds on some careers that seemingly have lost their way a bit.
Have to say, I haven't seen much to suggest Lamberts style would do much for our younger players. Could be proved wrong, but there's not much evidence to suggest it.
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I actually think the direct comparisons being made of Lambert to MON are unfair. Yes, he played for him and MON's influence will have rubbed off. But I think there is more versatility to Lambert's game created by his willingness to be more open to ideas and concepts. He's not purely counter attack, and at home plays a much higher line than MON ever did. I think Lambert would love the chance to develop our kids. You have to remember he is quite restricted at Norwich in what he can and cannot do and moving to a club like us gives him a far more varied and extensive pallette to work from.
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I actually think the direct comparisons being made of Lambert to MON are unfair. Yes, he played for him and MON's influence will have rubbed off. But I think there is more versatility to Lambert's game created by his willingness to be more open to ideas and concepts. He's not purely counter attack, and at home plays a much higher line than MON ever did. I think Lambert would love the chance to develop our kids. You have to remember he is quite restricted at Norwich in what he can and cannot do and moving to a club like us gives him a far more varied and extensive pallette to work from.
I agree but Rodgers is restricted at Swansea and OGS is restricted at Molde (though not relatively to the rest of the league, admittedly - what he did do, though, was completely transform a long-ball team into a passing team in the space of one summer).
Lambert is infinitely tactically more aware than MON ever was, but his template for attacking is still the same and he remains rooted in pragmatism. I'm not saying that there's no way he'd change his football with us, just that there's no evidence to suggest he would, whereas Solskjaer would almost definitely play the type of football that would suit our younger players.
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What has happened to Barry Bannan was encapsulated for me at the end of the Tottenham game when he had a chance to win the game in a good scoring position and he simply threw back his head and lashed the ball high over the bar. I think the drink driving knocked him back together with attempting to come to terms with the default position of the manager and the core of senior players which was lump the ball forward for Heskey to get on the end of it regardless of whether Heskey was playing or not.
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Make it so Randy! I imagine it's been said already but Scandinavians and Villa have generally been a good fit...Mellberg Nielsen Sorenson Laursen Carew Gudjonsson even Allback scored a couple for us!
And thanks for the translation Gompedyret
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
No, but that doesn't mean he's a pass-and-move manager by any means.
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Interesting to see this article by Zonal Marking concerning the swansea norwich game from a few months back regarding Lambert's tactical acumen
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/02/13/swansea-2-3-norwich-link-and-graphics/ (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/02/13/swansea-2-3-norwich-link-and-graphics/)
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Another interesting development (from Aftenposten (http://fotball.aftenposten.no/eliteserien/article237356.ece)):
Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen, reaping criticism for Solskjaer handling, now has gone on vacation.
Late last night Romsdals Budstikke published the answers Ole Gunnar Solskjaer allegedly gave Molde director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen, before he took the much-publicized trip to Birmingham.
The questions, which came from the boards of Molde Football ASA Molde FK and Røkke referred to the manager's future at the club.
The answers, which Nordstrand Jackobsen made public last night, has made a number of experts in labor law to respond.
- Can open up to walking the day (quit immediately)
- He breaks the general relationship of trust which must be between the director and employee. One can question whether he is liable to have this kind of job, a leading employment lawyers, Jan Tormod Dege, comments.
Molde's chairman, Øystein Neerland, would not comment on the allegations to the newspaper.
- I have no comment, says Neerland.
John Aage Hvardal, Codex Attorney, believes this breach of trust can open that Ole Gunnar Solskjaer can break the contract with the club.
- If the employer commits a material breach of the duty of loyalty may ultimately provide the basis for the employee to terminate the employment contract and go in the day, says Hvardal to VG Nett.
In the midst of turbulence around Molde, Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen has now gone on holiday abroad. The media manager at Molde, Per Liane, confirms this to TV 2 Sport .
It is planned that the club's president and athletic director shall return the 6 June. Financial director Ole Jacob Hagen Strand is deputy.
- It is strange that he goes on vacation now. It may be a coincidence, but it sounds strange, TV 2 football expert Henning Berg says.
To sum it up, The director revealing OGS's answers to the media has been on the receiving end of heavy criticism and has now gone on holiday. Additionally, several lawyers thinks Molde's actions makes a good case for OGS leaving without compensation. Poor suckers.
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there is absolutely nothing that i have seen in N'Zogbia as yet that sugsests he will come good, i didnt think he was all that special for Wigan to be honest,
he was Wigans Stuart Downing, for some unknown reason people see something in these players that just is not there, i mean Downing was our Player of the year, yet he is completely pants as he is again proving, but still getting picked even for the England squad,
Macoun could be a big winner, along with Bannan, Gardner and a few others from the youth squad,
as for Dunne, Collins, Hutton, even Gabby with his useless touch might all struggle
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Interesting to see this article by Zonal Marking concerning the swansea norwich game from a few months back regarding Lambert's tactical acumen
http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/02/13/swansea-2-3-norwich-link-and-graphics/ (http://www.zonalmarking.net/2012/02/13/swansea-2-3-norwich-link-and-graphics/)
He's a very sound reactive tactical manager, but he's never struck me as proactively wanting to go out and play his way to victory, more reacting to what the opposition do. That's fine, of course, but it tends to produce one-off good results than consistent results. Still, we will see if we appoint him. I'm unconvinced.
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out of the famous 3, Lambert, Martinez and Rogers, Lambert was always my 3rd chioce anyway
This.
Although as 4th choices go, Lambert is pretty good!
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out of the famous 3, Lambert, Martinez and Rogers, Lambert was always my 3rd chioce anyway
This.
Although as 4th choices go, Lambert is pretty good!
true, its not bad is it
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
The fact he played for MON is only slightly relevant. He played for Hitzfeld and Oo Eck as well.
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out of the famous 3, Lambert, Martinez and Rogers, Lambert was always my 3rd chioce anyway
This.
Although as 4th choices go, Lambert is pretty good!
Lambert is my first choice with OSG next for me. I like Martinez too to be fair. Rogers would be very expensive and doubt would be interested.
true, its not bad is it
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Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
Well, he's available, Greg - Young Boys Berne have just split up with him. But I don't rate the fellow myself.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
As does Arsene Wenger
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
As does Arsene Wenger
And Pep Guardiola.
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Come on Randy, we pretty much all want Ole and Villa Park will be rocking for the first home game if you hire him.
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If theres a chance of no compensation having to be paid out to get OGS then I'd imagine Randys legal advisors will be all over it as we speak.
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I know we have some HR experts among us but the Molde directors seem to have shagged themselves thoroughly.
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Come on Randy, we pretty much all want Ole and Villa Park will be rocking for the first home game if you hire him.
Speak for yourself- im in the lambert camp as most were a week ago- if ogs gets the job however i will fully back him . I believe both would do a decent job.
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Come on Randy, we pretty much all want Ole and Villa Park will be rocking for the first home game if you hire him.
Speak for yourself- im in the lambert camp as most were a week ago- if ogs gets the job however i will fully back him . I believe both would do a decent job.
Hence 'pretty much'.
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Come on Randy, we pretty much all want Ole and Villa Park will be rocking for the first home game if you hire him.
Speak for yourself- im in the lambert camp as most were a week ago- if ogs gets the job however i will fully back him . I believe both would do a decent job.
Hence 'pretty much'.
It's been interesting, the rate of conversion from the Lambert camp to the Solskjaer camp. I think the prospective football styles and reliability of youth development has swayed many.
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I'd be happy with both Lambert or OGS, they'd represent a huge progress respect to Houllier and AML. . .
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I was mostly in the Brendan Rodgers camp with how Swansea have played but very much open to Lambert because as Monty says, he's very good at seeing things mid-match and changing things which often got results. OGS could well represent the best of both though. He's clearly determined to play the right way but appears to have that tactical and analytical nous too. One comment that Ferguson made (and mates who support United have repeated) was that the reason why he scored so many goals coming off the bench was because he would identify weaknesses in the opponents that he would make the most of. Add to this his work with kids and it seems like as good a match as we could hope for.
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
Sorry to drag up a post from pages ago, but this is all perfectly logical. We could logically go one of two ways. Since in the absence of mega-investment from Randy we're unlikely to get a superstar manager, we either go for a steady Eddie appointment, who'll get us up to our current natural level of upper mid-table/5th/6th (whether we like it or not, this is the best we've achieved in the last 15 years). OR we try to bag an up and coming superstar manager, who could grow the club in his own image. I'm hoping this is what we try to do as taking the first choice has not exactly gotten us very far. It could fail and if it does we'll have to remove him from his position and try again, but the board are at least trying to do exactly the right thing here, so they should be supported in my view...
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There is no logical reason for OGS. Not on his record or where he's done it. Its just because we all know OGS. If he was a non-entity then no-one would want him. Christian Gross keeps coming into my mind.
As does Arsene Wenger
And Pep Guardiola.
Wenger and Guardiola's situations are very different. If we want to take the Guardiola type option we should be giving KMac the job. Guardiola, we should also note, was taking over a set-up that he was fully accustomed to with some of the finest footballers in the world playing for it. As for Wenger, I think he'd been managing for twelve years prior to the Arsenal job!
Just in response to other posts: As for OGS being the next superstar manager, where is that idea coming from? This is nothing but groundless hype as far as I can see.
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The ex-Valencia manager worth a punt?.........Emery is it?
But i think i would be quite disappointed if OGS did'nt come now.
Would prefer Rodgers and Martinez ahead of Lambert, but would'nt be too disappointed with any of them tbh.
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The ex-Valencia manager worth a punt?.........Emery is it?
Assuming you mean Unai and not Dick, he signed a two year contract to coach Spartak Moscow last week.
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Just in response to other posts: As for OGS being the next superstar manager, where is that idea coming from? This is nothing but groundless hype as far as I can see.
Who has said he is going to be the next superstar manager? What a lot of people seem to be saying is that they are excited by the idea of having a young, talented manager who plays attractive football.
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Seems a few people think lambert is to be interviewed for the villa job this week, any substance to this or is it just guesswork?
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Initially I was very sceptical about OGS
Now, I'd be thoroughly gutted if we don't get him
Nice bloke, nice football, would have the respect of the players both young and old and would unite the fans
Lambert / Martinez / Rodgers, not for me thanks
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I like Rogers, but I think it would take a fair amount of time for his passing ethos to take effect at the club, it's not something you can implement overnight.
OGS or Lambert for me, failing that, a promising young Manager from abroad.
We certainly shouldn't be restricted by Lerner's 'Must have Premiership experience' crap.
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Doesn't it seem a bit strange that 'pool, Albion and ourselves are all eyeing up the same talent? Has the pool of good managers shrunk?
You could also see this in the fact that AV last season and Wolves mid-season also had problems attracting managers, and 'pool' and Yelsea have had to resort to stop gap managers for lengthy periods of time.
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I like Rogers, but I think it would take a fair amount of time for his passing ethos to take effect at the club
I like him too, but he's had his share of abysmal failures. I have a feeling this season is as good as it gets for him. I may be wrong of course, I often am.
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Doesn't it seem a bit strange that 'pool, Albion and ourselves are all eyeing up the same talent? Has the pool of good managers shrunk?
You could also see this in the fact that AV last season and Wolves mid-season also had problems attracting managers, and 'pool' and Yelsea have had to resort to stop gap managers for lengthy periods of time.
Yes, the Chelsea thing is odd. It's as if there is such a big coaching infastructure at the club, they're effectively just appointing somebody to name eleven players on matchday, and it could almost be anyone.
Anyone who gets the Chelsea job certainly isn't expected to shape the club from top to bottom, the way Ferguson does. He wants a say in what shifts the security guards work and what the cooks serve in the canteen.
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At this stage in his career Solskjaer=Paul Ince when he took over Blackburn. A bit early and a job that was too big for him. Let's not make the same mistake and ruin his career whilst we make no progress.
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At this stage in his career Solskjær=Paul Ince when he took over Blackburn. A bit early and a job that was too big for him. Let's not make the same mistake and ruin his career whilst we make no progress.
It's also the same age that Rodgers took over Swansea, and older than Guardiola or Martinez when they took their respective jobs. Different managers mature at different paces, like players.
Also Ince had other problems besides being too young for the job he took, ie being pish.
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At this stage in his career Solskjær=Paul Ince when he took over Blackburn. A bit early and a job that was too big for him. Let's not make the same mistake and ruin his career whilst we make no progress.
I don't think you can apply one man's experience to another man's experience. Just because it didn't work out of Ince doesn't mean it wouldn't work out for Solskjaer. Their experience is different and they're different people.
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I look at Paul Ince and look at Solskjaer and struggle to see anything that they have in common, other than being former players at Newton Heath.
Just as a f'rinstance, Ince has a big ego and a small brain. With Solskjaer it seems to be the other way round.
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I'm not sure all three clubs are looking at the same managers. It is public knowledge that Liverpool are/were interested in speaking to Martinez and Rodgers and that we spoke to OGS. Hughton is favourite for the Albion job having just missed out to Hodgson last time round. Anything other than that just seems to be speculation.
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Just in response to other posts: As for OGS being the next superstar manager, where is that idea coming from? This is nothing but groundless hype as far as I can see.
Who has said he is going to be the next superstar manager? What a lot of people seem to be saying is that they are excited by the idea of having a young, talented manager who plays attractive football.
cb in the post above mine (I think cb was alluding to OGS).
Yep, I can understand everyone being excited by us getting a young talented manager who gets teams playing attractive football - it's just what we need. We need a guy who can do that for sure BUT surely, first and foremost, we need someone who has that bit of proven experience to steady the Villa ship and turn around a side that just missed out on relegation? That's the bit that OGS doesn't have on his CV. Has he got the know how to turn us around first? Has he the knowledge of the transfer market to quickly turn around our playing staff so that he can steady the ship and then bring in the lovely football? Has he the thick skin to handle the heat if it all goes tits up? Maybe he has, but I don't see any of that on such a short CV. It is a huge, huge gamble.
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
I think there has been some pretty harsh criticism of Lambert on here. Those who are slating the way he plays have to remember that a good number of the players he is working with were playing in League Two a couple of seasons ago. Whose to say that he won't adapt his style of playing when working with better players?
As for those saying that he is an O'Neill clone, having read a few of his interviews, it seems that his experience of German football has influenced him just as much as his time at Celtic with O'Neill. As this interview says:
"Lambert also said he believes his decision to take his coaching badges in Germany has given him a broader perspective in management.
He said: 'I wanted to learn something different. It's a totally different midset to what it is in Britain.
'I was fortunate enough to play there and live there for a bit, and I was fortunate enough to go back there and do my licence. I wanted to learn something different, so I didn't become the same manager as the next person in Britain."
Still think he would be a good option for us.
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Aiming to 'steady the ship' invariably achieves that and only that. It's a short-termist way of thinking, which often embeds problems of habit rather than removing them. What we need is a radical change of direction from where we've been, a completely different feeling around the club. In my view, that's more likely to achieve that yearned for 'stability' than any aim towards that.
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
I think there has been some pretty harsh criticism of Lambert on here. Those wsho are slating the way he plays have to remember that a good number of the players he is working with were playing in League Two a couple of seasons ago. Whose to say that he won't adapt his style of playing when working with better players?
Having read a few of his interviews, it seems that his experience of German football has influenced him just as much as his time at Celtic with O'Neill. As this interview says:
"Lambert also said he believes his decision to take his coaching badges in Germany has given him a broader perspective in management.
He said: 'I wanted to learn something different. It's a totally different midset to what it is in Britain.
'I was fortunate enough to play there and live there for a bit, and I was fortunate enough to go back there and do my licence. I wanted to learn something different, so I didn't become the same manager as the next person in Britain.'
Still think he would be a good option for us.
That's all fine and well, but there's still no evidence to suggest he'll implement any of that football with us. Rodgers is also playing with former lower-league wonders, remember.
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I think age is immaterial and agree that people mature at different rates. Also agree that having more than two brain cells helps however Rodgers and Martinez and Lambert have done their graft and added experience to intellect. Guardiola is from the best academy in the world. Ince succeeded spectacularly at lower level and was promoted too quick and failed miserably. I just want us all to understand the gamble that would be Solskjaer. It's no more than 50/50.
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Molde game on here http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123611/1/watch-sandnes-ulf-vs-molde-fk.html
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I agree with Damon about Rodgers as you would expect me to do. When Swansea ran rings around us at VP I got the overwhelming feeling that everything was clicking for them on the day. Big pitch, beautiful playing surface, demoralized opposition, demoralized home fans. It was as though George Formby had been handed his ukulele. Hand him a trombone eg Stoke on a cold wet January Tuesday night and the result would be very different.
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
I think there has been some pretty harsh criticism of Lambert on here. Those wsho are slating the way he plays have to remember that a good number of the players he is working with were playing in League Two a couple of seasons ago. Whose to say that he won't adapt his style of playing when working with better players?
Having read a few of his interviews, it seems that his experience of German football has influenced him just as much as his time at Celtic with O'Neill. As this interview says:
"Lambert also said he believes his decision to take his coaching badges in Germany has given him a broader perspective in management.
He said: 'I wanted to learn something different. It's a totally different midset to what it is in Britain.
'I was fortunate enough to play there and live there for a bit, and I was fortunate enough to go back there and do my licence. I wanted to learn something different, so I didn't become the same manager as the next person in Britain.'
Still think he would be a good option for us.
That's all fine and well, but there's still no evidence to suggest he'll implement any of that football with us. Rodgers is also playing with former lower-league wonders, remember.
Not saying it is, but it's the sure fire belief by some that he will implement a long ball game that I don't quite understand.
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It seems that OGS has a well defined philosophy regarding how he wishes his teams to play, as of course did Eck[just different] IRogers also has a defined philosophy. Many new managers just want to be managers , without thinking through how they want teams to play. An attack minded manager will make mistakes, but wont be boring or negative.............. and by God we have had a gutful of negative these past few months. I do not want OGS simply because he is not Eck, but rather because of the potential he offers. Rogers may or may not continue to greater success, Lambert may or may not do well again, it is arguable that OGS may well do equally as well, or even better.
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At this stage in his career Solskjær=Paul Ince when he took over Blackburn. A bit early and a job that was too big for him. Let's not make the same mistake and ruin his career whilst we make no progress.
The problem with that comparison is that Ince was/is known to be a work shy arsehole. the Guvnor he said he was too good/important to do his coaching badges and continually deferred completing them. At MK Dons he was known to be extremely lazy and have little work ethic.
Id say Solskaer is the complete opposite (at least from a reputation perspective). From pretty much everything I have read it appears Ole has been studiously preparing for management for years, including when he was still playing.
Of course this does not mean OGS will be a success but I do not think the Ince comparison is fair.
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Lamberts teams play far better football than mons teams, lambert is his own man and not a mini - mon.
I think there has been some pretty harsh criticism of Lambert on here. Those wsho are slating the way he plays have to remember that a good number of the players he is working with were playing in League Two a couple of seasons ago. Whose to say that he won't adapt his style of playing when working with better players?
Having read a few of his interviews, it seems that his experience of German football has influenced him just as much as his time at Celtic with O'Neill. As this interview says:
"Lambert also said he believes his decision to take his coaching badges in Germany has given him a broader perspective in management.
He said: 'I wanted to learn something different. It's a totally different midset to what it is in Britain.
'I was fortunate enough to play there and live there for a bit, and I was fortunate enough to go back there and do my licence. I wanted to learn something different, so I didn't become the same manager as the next person in Britain.'
Still think he would be a good option for us.
That's all fine and well, but there's still no evidence to suggest he'll implement any of that football with us. Rodgers is also playing with former lower-league wonders, remember.
Not saying it is, but it's the sure fire belief by some that he will implement a long ball game that I don't quite understand.
Well nothing is certain, of course. All we can go on is what they've done previously. Solskjaer has played a very defined passing game, Lambert hasn't.
I agree with Damon about Rodgers as you would expect me to do. When Swansea ran rings around us at VP I got the overwhelming feeling that everything was clicking for them on the day. Big pitch, beautiful playing surface, demoralized opposition, demoralized home fans. It was as though George Formby had been handed his ukulele. Hand him a trombone eg Stoke on a cold wet January Tuesday night and the result would be very different.
I never understand this argument. Of course teams are more likely to do well when all other extenuating circumstances suit them. What about their victories over Arsenal, over Man City? How did Stoke fare against those teams?
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If we are going to use gambling metaphors to evaluate the prospects of OGS, his chances may well be evens (50-50) but that is only for "success" and "failure" and both those definitions may be very widely interpreted.
Why I am so much hoping that OGS does become our manager is that the level of "success" that he has the potential to deliver is very much greater than the level of "success" Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez has the potential to deliver.
It is time for Villa to take a chance and not play the McLeish percentages game.
To use a card playing metaphor we are in a game of pontoon holding a ten and a six. McLeish would always stick on that and hope the bank burst. It very rarely did and he very rarely won. We have got to twist and hope that we draw a five. My personal opinion is that OSG is the most likely five in the pack.
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Molde game on here http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/123611/1/watch-sandnes-ulf-vs-molde-fk.html
Molde winning 1-0. Some good passing play generally. Goal came from a long ball over the top which the striker got hold of and played it in the middle before scrambling over the line.
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I agree with Damon about Rodgers as you would expect me to do. When Swansea ran rings around us at VP I got the overwhelming feeling that everything was clicking for them on the day. Big pitch, beautiful playing surface, demoralized opposition, demoralized home fans. It was as though George Formby had been handed his ukulele. Hand him a trombone eg Stoke on a cold wet January Tuesday night and the result would be very different.
Demoralised team and fans? If you remember Brian the 3 matches prior to Swansea game were a very good display at home v Arsenal. A creditable draw v Stoke away and we beat Chelsea 3-1 at SB just 48 hours earlier.
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The centre forward does not look too bad actually, and Eikram can certainly pass the ball.
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I said I got the feeling that everything went right for Swansea at VP. The important word in that sentence is "feeling". The impression which was created in me is that on their day Swansea can play beautiful winning football. To scale the heights of the Premiership requires consistency. If Rodgers stays with them perhaps the next couple of seasons will deliver consistency. I hope it does because they will deserve their success.
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The centre forward does not look too bad actually, and Eikram can certainly pass the ball.
Eikram is certainly the main man in this team. Think Barry Bannan but consistently putting in good-weighted balls instead of 60 yard Hollywood ones. Striker looks alright but I wouldn't take him at Villa with our options.
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The centre forward does not look too bad actually, and Eikram can certainly pass the ball.
Eikram is certainly the main man in this team. Think Barry Bannan but consistently putting in good-weighted balls instead of 60 yard Hollywood ones. Striker looks alright but I wouldn't take him at Villa with our options.
Hopefully with a bit of good coaching Bannan will learn to do that as well. Two is always better than one.
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Despite what Swansea did last season I agree Rodgers is not the man for us because when teams paid Swansea due respect they struggled and we will not give him the time to make bottom up changes.
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The centre forward does not look too bad actually, and Eikram can certainly pass the ball.
Eikram is certainly the main man in this team. Think Barry Bannan but consistently putting in good-weighted balls instead of 60 yard Hollywood ones. Striker looks alright but I wouldn't take him at Villa with our options.
Hopefully with a bit of good coaching Bannan will learn to do that as well. Two is always better than one.
Also with a bit of movement in the side he wouldnt have to look for the limited hollywood pass all the time.
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The centre forward does not look too bad actually, and Eikram can certainly pass the ball.
Eikram is certainly the main man in this team. Think Barry Bannan but consistently putting in good-weighted balls instead of 60 yard Hollywood ones. Striker looks alright but I wouldn't take him at Villa with our options.
Hopefully with a bit of good coaching Bannan will learn to do that as well. Two is always better than one.
Also with a bit of movement in the side he wouldnt have to look for the limited hollywood pass all the time.
That's a very good point.
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I stand corrected aftab I forgot that mini purple patch in our season. In retrospect I made a generalization which was not accurate.
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Well nothing is certain, of course. All we can go on is what they've done previously. Solskjær has played a very defined passing game, Lambert hasn't.
Whenever I seen Norwich play this season, they have played decent, attacking football. I would say they play the kind of football that we have played at our best under the likes of Graham Taylor, Ron Atkinson and O'Neill. OK they don't play an intricate passing game like Swansea, but how popular would that be at Villa Park? They play an awful lot of backwards passes (including lots to the keeper) and I don't think it would be long before the moans, groans and shouts of "get it f**ckin' forward" would start.
I honestly do think that Lambert would be the best fit for us at the moment, but saying that i wouldn't be too disappointed with OGS, Rodgers or Martinez either.
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I do think that was our best "run". Something had clicked v Arsenal but than .....he resorted to type!
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Whenever I seen Norwich play this season, they have played decent, attacking football. I would say they play the kind of football that we have played at our best under the likes of Graham Taylor, Ron Atkinson and O'Neill. OK they don't play an intricate passing game like Swansea, but how popular would that be at Villa Park? They play an awful lot of backwards passes (including lots to the keeper) and I don't think it would be long before the moans, groans and shouts of "get it f**ckin' forward" would start.
I honestly do think that Lambert would be the best fit for us at the moment, but saying that i wouldn't be too disappointed with OGS, Rodgers or Martinez either.
Well for a start, I'm sure those fans wouldn't complain when we scored more goals than last year. Anyway, I'd hardly say all the fans would think that, so you're never going to please everyone.
Secondly, and most importantly, I think we all recognise that the game is very, very different to how it was back in the days of SGT and BFR, and I think we also agree that MONball was discredited as too old fashioned as, despite all that investment, it had such an obvious glass ceiling. I think Lambert is much more tactically sophisticated than MON, but his attacking template has so far proved to be a bit too similar for my liking.
This club needs to be dragged into the 21st century. GH had started this, but Eck has been thoroughly retrogressive. We need more radicalism than reactive steadiness right now.
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For OGS to play the football with his philosophy and style of football there would have to be a total radical change with the players we have. Dunne and Collins are terrible at playing the ball out and he would have to replace them. Makoun would definitely play a roll in his team. OGS would need a whole season to adjust the team and bring in players which would compliment his methods. I feel he is exactly what we need right now and already there is a feeling amongst fans we have not felt for a long time ........
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I stand corrected aftab I forgot that mini purple patch in our season.
I think I blinked and missed it.
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For OGS to play the football with his philosophy and style of football there would have to be a total radical change with the players we have. Dunne and Collins are terrible at playing the ball out and he would have to replace them. Makoun would definitely play a roll in his team. OGS would need a whole season to adjust the team and bring in players which would compliment his methods. I feel he is exactly what we need right now and already there is a feeling amongst fans we have not felt for a long time ........
I would suggest that one of the main reasons Messrs Dunne and Collins don't play the ball out so well is that they don't have an easy option i.e. none of their team mates are moving into space to provide a simple pass. The lack of movement is the problem. If you watch Vorm at Swansea pass it out, he's always got a couple of options for simple passes - in many cases I don't blame defenders hoofing it when nothing else is available to them.
This is the sort of basic activity which the new manager needs to get going and I don't believe that it will take long for most of our players to pick this up.
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I can't watch the Molde live stream on a work computer. Is th game nearly over? Has Ole thrown his cardigan into the crowd and burst into tears?
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Whenever I seen Norwich play this season, they have played decent, attacking football. I would say they play the kind of football that we have played at our best under the likes of Graham Taylor, Ron Atkinson and O'Neill. OK they don't play an intricate passing game like Swansea, but how popular would that be at Villa Park? They play an awful lot of backwards passes (including lots to the keeper) and I don't think it would be long before the moans, groans and shouts of "get it f**ckin' forward" would start.
I honestly do think that Lambert would be the best fit for us at the moment, but saying that i wouldn't be too disappointed with OGS, Rodgers or Martinez either.
This club needs to be dragged into the 21st century. GH had started this, but Eck has been thoroughly retrogressive. We need more radicalism than reactive steadiness right now.
I am not sure we need to overhaul the whole club. The structure at the club under first team level (Academy and Reserve Team) seems to be in decent shape, so I don't think huge changes are needed at those levels.
I agree that we need a massive overhaul at the first team level of the club though and not just at management level. Roy Keane wrote an interesting piece in one of the papers today questioning the senior pros at Liverpool. He wrote that in his opinion, the likes of Gerrard and Carragher need to help the youngsters at the club and said that when he was at Man Utd the likes of Bruce and Robson helped him greatly. We need those kind of players in our team as well.
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Whoever takes the job needs to make huge changes to the back four, makoun would be an asset in midfield and id like to see new blood in the strikeforce- gabby , dunne, collins, warnock, hutton are not good enough- and i hope we have a much changed team in august and a season of exciting football ahead.
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Why I am so much hoping that OGS does become our manager is that the level of "success" that he has the potential to deliver is very much greater than the level of "success" Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez has the potential to deliver.
That is my opinion too, Brian.
It is riskier but potentially far more rewarding. He is also quite clearly the man with most support of the fans, which would do an awful lot to rebuild the bridges that were burned by last summer's events.
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A very good point.
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Just in response to other posts: As for OGS being the next superstar manager, where is that idea coming from? This is nothing but groundless hype as far as I can see.
To respond to this, whether or not he is the next superstar manager, I haven't a clue. But what you seem to want is greater certainty, which I can understand.
However, even with Randy's backing, there was no chance of us signing someone like a Mourinho after he made his breakthrough at Porto. Unfortunately, we're now too small to pull off such a signing. All I'm saying is there is some initial evidence that OGS could be great, he by no means has enough on his CV yet to convince us that he definitely will be, but if/when he does then we wouldn't be able to sign him due to the level of competition from other clubs. The same applies to any of the other great up and coming managers out there. They undoubtedly exist but are somewhat under the radar. If we ever want such a manager then we have to take the gamble early in their career. It will breed some degree of loyalty and it could work really well or it could fail. I realize it's something of a gamble.
My feeling with someone like Lambert is that it will ultimately fail, maybe a bit like MON failed in the end. He's clearly a good manager, and would most likely steady the ship and probably have external commentators saying what a good job he did with Little Old Aston Villa, before eventually the crowd will grow impatient and want success. I just want a bit more than that for us this time. Otherwise I fear we are forever destined to go through our four/five year cycle of initial success, followed by desire to go to the next level, followed by disappointment, followed by disaffection with manager, followed by poor team performance, followed by sacking and repeat... Of course OGS could follow this exact template, or could do even worse, but he just brings that possibility of really achieving higher things. Admittedly it's only really a feeling and there are safer options, but we haven't had a manager in over 15 years who you felt could really compete with the big boys. I just want someone we can get behind from the beginning without having that nagging doubt that he'll only ever be able to take us so far and no further. I really think with OGS potentially the sky is the limit and that's why I'm so in favour of him and that's why there's 'hype'.
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We've had a whole season of trying to 'play it safe', and I'd say most of up are fed up with it.
Maybe the reaction against safe pairs of hands is reckless, but unless we rediscover our ambition we are going to die slowly.
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We've had a whole season of trying to 'play it safe', and I'd say most of up are fed up with it.
Maybe the reaction against safe pairs of hands is reckless, but unless we rediscover our ambition we are going to die slowly.
Exactly. I'd rather we died in a blaze of glory than slowly resign ourselves to mediocrity.
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Just in response to other posts: As for OGS being the next superstar manager, where is that idea coming from? This is nothing but groundless hype as far as I can see.
To respond to this, whether or not he is the next superstar manager, I haven't a clue. But what you seem to want is greater certainty, which I can understand.
However, even with Randy's backing, there was no chance of us signing someone like a Mourinho after he made his breakthrough at Porto. Unfortunately, we're now too small to pull off such a signing. All I'm saying is there is some initial evidence that OGS could be great, he by no means has enough on his CV yet to convince us that he definitely will be, but if/when he does then we wouldn't be able to sign him due to the level of competition from other clubs. The same applies to any of the other great up and coming managers out there. They undoubtedly exist but are somewhat under the radar. If we ever want such a manager then we have to take the gamble early in their career. It will breed some degree of loyalty and it could work really well or it could fail. I realize it's something of a gamble.
My feeling with someone like Lambert is that it will ultimately fail, maybe a bit like MON failed in the end. He's clearly a good manager, and would most likely steady the ship and probably have external commentators saying what a good job he did with Little Old Aston Villa, before eventually the crowd will grow impatient and want success. I just want a bit more than that for us this time. Otherwise I fear we are forever destined to go through our four/five year cycle of initial success, followed by desire to go to the next level, followed by disappointment, followed by disaffection with manager, followed by poor team performance, followed by sacking and repeat... Of course OGS could follow this exact template, or could do even worse, but he just brings that possibility of really achieving higher things. Admittedly it's only really a feeling and there are safer options, but we haven't had a manager in over 15 years who you felt could really compete with the big boys. I just want someone we can get behind from the beginning without having that nagging doubt that he'll only ever be able to take us so far and no further. I really think with OGS potentially the sky is the limit and that's why I'm so in favour of him and that's why there's 'hype'.
I'm sorry, but I just can't see where this kind of blind optimism is coming from.
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It just needs to be less boring and predictable, more than anything.
We are unfortunate because we have just had two seasons of poor football at home, but actually, despite finishing sixth, the two final MON seasons were dull as dishwater at home, too, making it more like four years.
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Probably it's a natural reaction to the institutional pessimism of telling your players they're not good enough to beat Manchester United, or Spurs, or Liverpool, and that they've done well to draw with Stoke. Fuck that shit.
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Molde 2-0 up with 15 mins to go.
Brought about entirely by managerial genius and the skill of Ekrim.
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We've had a whole season of trying to 'play it safe', and I'd say most of up are fed up with it.
Maybe the reaction against safe pairs of hands is reckless, but unless we rediscover our ambition we are going to die slowly.
Exactly. I'd rather we died in a blaze of glory than slowly resign ourselves to mediocrity.
Spot on gents.
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We've had a whole season of trying to 'play it safe', and I'd say most of up are fed up with it.
Maybe the reaction against safe pairs of hands is reckless, but unless we rediscover our ambition we are going to die slowly.
Exactly. I'd rather we died in a blaze of glory than slowly resign ourselves to mediocrity.
Spot on gents.
Too true. Managers have to start somewhere. I know it is not the same at all, but what managerial experience did Guardiola have when he took over at Barca?
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I have not been able to follow H&V recently as friends staying has meant going out, doing things, eating and getting wankered every evening.
Has anybody mentioned THAT night in Barcelona yet?
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We've had a whole season of trying to 'play it safe', and I'd say most of up are fed up with it.
Maybe the reaction against safe pairs of hands is reckless, but unless we rediscover our ambition we are going to die slowly.
Exactly. I'd rather we died in a blaze of glory than slowly resign ourselves to mediocrity.
Spot on gents.
Too true. Managers have to start somewhere. I know it is not the same at all, but what managerial experience did Guardiola have when he took over at Barca?
He managed the Barcelona B and youth sides. Sounds familiar.
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Club owner 'leaked' "three answers"
Molde FK and their owner Røkke decided to publish the three answers Solskjaer gave them before leaving for Birmingham last week.
With large public interest in the matter, the three stakeholders and the club
Director chose to make the information available to all.
Club director Tarje Nordstrand Jacobsen was heavily criticised for leaking the responses to a football newspaper. He has since been put on "holiday leave".
adapted from NRK.no
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It was a bit of a naughty question to make the point OCD, but he had a clear philosophy on the way he wanted his side to operate, and brought it through while being excellent with the yong players coming through. I think the lure of OGS to the board is based in no small part to his success with young players. We have a very decent crop, and they are not being given the license or confidence to play at the moment. I think the board will look for someone to bring that out. I have not a clue about what youth Lambert has brought to the fore.
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We've had a whole season of trying to 'play it safe', and I'd say most of up are fed up with it.
Maybe the reaction against safe pairs of hands is reckless, but unless we rediscover our ambition we are going to die slowly.
Exactly. I'd rather we died in a blaze of glory than slowly resign ourselves to mediocrity.
Spot on gents.
Too true. Managers have to start somewhere. I know it is not the same at all, but what managerial experience did Guardiola have when he took over at Barca?
Exactly as a club we are in desperate need of a gamble.
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Not sure how much there is in this but OGS gave hugs to all his backroom staff, handshakes with all his players on his pitch then the whole team was over to the travelling fans to applaud them.
Wasn't the tearjerking goodbye that we might be hoping for from what I could see.
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Such is my diplomacy Ozzjim, I thought I would use a sledge hammer to drive home your point.
Interesting watching the end of the Molde match. I wouldn't say OGS didn't anything out of the norm but one of their players ran to the crowd and threw his shirt to them. It seemed like there was more to it - I couldn't tell whether it was Eikram or not though.
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Not sure how much there is in this but OGS gave hugs to all his backroom staff, handshakes with all his players on his pitch then the whole team was over to the travelling fans to applaud them.
Wasn't the tearjerking goodbye that we might be hoping for from what I could see.
OGS just did his quick post match interview. As I do not speak the lingo, I concluded that he was clearly not ruling anything in or out.
Incidentally they have a mid week game and home match on the 28th before a mid season break. Even if he penned a contract with Villa tomorrow he would probabaly take charge for those last two games.
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Not sure how much there is in this but OGS gave hugs to all his backroom staff, handshakes with all his players on his pitch then the whole team was over to the travelling fans to applaud them.
Wasn't the tearjerking goodbye that we might be hoping for from what I could see.
OGS just did his quick post match interview. As I do not speak the lingo, I concluded that he was clearly not ruling anything in or out.
He was not asked at all, and the player in the crowd I *think* was the american Gatt, not Eikram.
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Not sure how much there is in this but OGS gave hugs to all his backroom staff, handshakes with all his players on his pitch then the whole team was over to the travelling fans to applaud them.
Wasn't the tearjerking goodbye that we might be hoping for from what I could see.
That seems pretty emotional by Norwegian standards.
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Not sure how much there is in this but OGS gave hugs to all his backroom staff, handshakes with all his players on his pitch then the whole team was over to the travelling fans to applaud them.
Wasn't the tearjerking goodbye that we might be hoping for from what I could see.
That seems pretty emotional by Norwegian standards.
Lol....
I had a thing for a tv vet from Norway a few years ago... can't recall her name but she seemed quite a warm person. I take it that is not the general mannerism!
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The're like Scots but without the animal gaiety
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The're like Scots but without the animal gaiety
and bad skin
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I had a thing for a tv vet from Norway a few years ago... can't recall her name but she seemed quite a warm person. I take it that is not the general mannerism!
It might have been Trude Mostue, she was in Vets in Practice.
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The're like Scots but without the animal gaiety
You are killing me here , lol.
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I had a thing for a tv vet from Norway a few years ago...
If you want to go out with cross dressers who put their arms up Elks arseholes its up to you...whatever floats your boat.
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
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Wasn't similar announced a couple of days ago?
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Christ,this is better than Corrie
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Molde 2-0 up with 15 mins to go.
Brought about entirely by managerial genius and the skill of Ekrim.
You do realise that it is not even the equivalent of Rangers beating Kilmarnock don't you?
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We want Ole for Villa (https://www.facebook.com/WeWantOleForVilla)
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Molde 2-0 up with 15 mins to go.
Brought about entirely by managerial genius and the skill of Ekrim.
You do realise that it is not even the equivalent of Rangers beating Kilmarnock don't you?
Dont knock Norwegian football. I've learnt more about it in the last 2 days than in my previous 45 years as a football fan.
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Wasn't similar announced a couple of days ago?
Wasn't that a Solskjær interview?
The rumours I've heard are he hugged all the players, dont know if it's true and. All the Norwegian people are saying there is a Press conference from the club at 21:15.
I haven't a clue whats going on just relaying the information from my Norwegian twitters.
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Molde 2-0 up with 15 mins to go.
Brought about entirely by managerial genius and the skill of Ekrim.
You do realise that it is not even the equivalent of Rangers beating Kilmarnock don't you?
Dont knock Norwegian football. I've learnt more about it in the last 2 days than in my previous 45 years as a football fan.
You wait till you get into Nordic biathlon. Now that's addictive.
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Mat Kendrick has given an interview to NRK Sport. There's a video of it for those of you in Norway
VIDEO (http://www.nrk.no/video/i_birmingham_folger_folk_spent_med_pa_situasjonen_med_solskjaer/15C7F6B7D6F524B6/)
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Presumed a regular post-match one.
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Presumed a regular post-match one.
Do you think we are going to have to wait another week for an appointment Dave?
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You do with my doctor.
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Presumed a regular post-match one.
Do you think we are going to have to wait another week for an appointment Dave?
I hope not.
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Presumed a regular post-match one.
I would have thought post match regular conference would be much closer to match finish time?
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Presumed a regular post-match one.
Do you think we are going to have to wait another week for an appointment Dave?
I hope not.
Molde have games on Thursday, and on Monday against Honefoss before the mid season break. Didnt OGS himself say if anything happens it would be after the Honefoss game ?
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I've no idea what the press conference is for. I do want him to take over at Villa, of all the likely names he seems the best to take a risk with.
It would be a shame if we let him slip through our fingers. It is hard to see how he can continue at Molde, I hope we have not just smoked him out for someone else to cash in.
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Molde press conference at 21:15 tonight.
Presumed a regular post-match one.
I would have thought post match regular conference would be much closer to match finish time?
Maybe Ole has borrowed Fergie's watch.
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Oh God. Not a whole week of this. Don't these people realise that it's the 21st century and some of us can't listen to a 3 minute pop song without forwarding it.
I want a new manager and I want one NOW. Preferably Norwegian.
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I wanted one yesterday. I am distinctly unhappy with this state of affairs.
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Is that 9.15 our time or not?
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Ole, Ole, Ole!
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All the Norwegian people are saying there is a Press conference from the club at 21:15.
Surely not all the Norwegian people? Some of them must be discussing an imminent attack by Swedes from north east!
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All the Norwegian people are saying there is a Press conference from the club at 21:15.
Surely not all the Norwegian people? Some of them must be discussing an imminent attack by Swedes from north east!
Too right. Lillestrom fans couldnt give a shit about Molde.
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Ole, Ole, Ole!
Oi Oi Oi, oh ................................ bloody dyslexia!
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*taps nose*
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You tease...
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What did Pelty just 'edit'?
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He said something about Ian Dowie I think
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No, it was definitely something about Mad Mick.
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I just said that I would not expect significant news on any managerial appointments early this week. *Maybe* later in the week...
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I'm lumping on Dowie then.
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Get in there! It has to be Dowie, you'd better not be lying Damon.
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Molde 2-0 up with 15 mins to go.
Brought about entirely by managerial genius and the skill of Ekrim.
You do realise that it is not even the equivalent of Rangers beating Kilmarnock don't you?
Dont knock Norwegian football. I've learnt more about it in the last 2 days than in my previous 45 years as a football fan.
You wait till you get into Nordic biathlon. Now that's addictive.
Is it the Norwegians that do wife carrying races?
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Norway are an hour ahead so the press conference is minutes away.
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My mortgage has just gone on McCarthy.
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I just said that I would not expect significant news on any managerial appointments early this week. *Maybe* later in the week...
That's Lambert nailed on than!
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I just said that I would not expect significant news on any managerial appointments early this week. *Maybe* later in the week...
So would you say then that Randy now knows who he wants?
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My mortgage has just gone on McCarthy.
Don't take this the wrong way mate, but I hope you end up in a cardboard box.
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I haven't tried it yet - Solskjaer
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I'm greening up on Coyle and laying Holloway. I've no idea what that means, but bob says things like that all the time.
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Zog, that is fair to say...
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Happy now? (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2cu7d_living-in-a-box-living-in-a-box_music)
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Zog, that is fair to say...
I really really hope it's Solsjkaer, he's a risk but the greatest potential reward.
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I just said that I would not expect significant news on any managerial appointments early this week. *Maybe* later in the week...
So would you say then that Randy now knows who he wants?
I'm sure he does. At least I hope so. But will they want to take the job?
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Zog, that is fair to say...
I really really hope it's Solsjkaer, he's a risk but the greatest potential reward.
With you all the way on that.
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It's got to the stage, in my mind at least, that they really have to hire OGS otherwise I really believe it's a great opportunity for the club missed. To my mind, he's the stand-out candidate both in calibre and the practicalities of recruitment, so it's obvious to me really.
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Zog, that is fair to say...
I really really hope it's Solsjkaer, he's a risk but the greatest potential reward.
With you all the way on that.
Paul lamberts claret & blue army!
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It's got to the stage, in my mind at least, that they really have to hire OGS otherwise I really believe it's a great opportunity for the club missed. To my mind, he's the stand-out candidate both in calibre and the practicalities of recruitment, so it's obvious to me really.
How come you never mentioned him a week ago then?
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
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It's got to the stage, in my mind at least, that they really have to hire OGS otherwise I really believe it's a great opportunity for the club missed. To my mind, he's the stand-out candidate both in calibre and the practicalities of recruitment, so it's obvious to me really.
How come you never mentioned him a week ago then?
Maybe he thought the board wouldn't be as creative?
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It's got to the stage, in my mind at least, that they really have to hire OGS otherwise I really believe it's a great opportunity for the club missed. To my mind, he's the stand-out candidate both in calibre and the practicalities of recruitment, so it's obvious to me really.
How come you never mentioned him a week ago then?
Personally, I think it is a case of the club out thinking us and looking more left field than most of us have. I'm quite impressed, to be honest.
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It's got to the stage, in my mind at least, that they really have to hire OGS otherwise I really believe it's a great opportunity for the club missed. To my mind, he's the stand-out candidate both in calibre and the practicalities of recruitment, so it's obvious to me really.
How come you never mentioned him a week ago then?
Well, funnily enough, I have more to do in my life than looking around the world for all the options available to us. Once it came to my attention, however, it became clear to me, at least, that he seems in many ways the ideal candidate. As many have said, I'm delighted the board are doing their jobs better than I am. That should be a given.
And, by the way, I never wanted Lambert like many do, so my record's clean on that.
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The're like Scots but without the animal gaiety
Surely that is like Animals without the Scottish gaiety!
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Zog, that is fair to say...
I really really hope it's Solsjkaer, he's a risk but the greatest potential reward.
With you all the way on that.
Paul lamberts claret & blue army!
Its funny a week ago Lambert might have been welcomed as an exciting choice. Now I think he would be a bit of a let down. I would back him, of course, but would be disappointing (three years running).
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I wanted Lambert. i'll gladly admit it. I also was lukewarm on Solskjaer when it was first suggested. Now that I've given it some proper thought, watched some stuff, read some stuff I've reconsidered my position. Lambert would be a good option too, as would Rodgers, even Martinez. But Solskjaer offers something incredibly unique and dynamic and we really, really need that.
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Zog, that is fair to say...
Fingers crossed it is OGS, I think you can see on here and other parts of the net Villa related that he has captured the imagination and would get good support from the fans, which would be such a welcome change of atmosphere.
Some media reports suggested he had impressed on Friday, is that fair to say?
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I wanted Lambert. i'll gladly admit it. I also was lukewarm on Solskjær when it was first suggested. Now that I've given it some proper thought, watched some stuff, read some stuff I've reconsidered my position. Lambert would be a good option too, as would Rodgers, even Martinez. But Solskjær offers something incredibly unique and dynamic and we really, really need that.
Pretty much exactly where I am!
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Solskjaer is the exciting appointment that could revitalise the club. I'll be disappointed if it's anyone else. However if it's Lambert I'll fully support him and thank the lord he's not Mcleish.
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One downside if we do get OGS is the demise of that wonderful expression Astonian Gloom. It has stuck in my mind since Mr Woodhall coined it. Those two words summarize perfectly the home page of my mind. It will be like losing an old friend.
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
I reckon they've been inundated As I said on the other thread ,we are the perfect club for any manager at the moment as fans expectations are greatly reduced and he will be given time to really make his mark
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
Do you mean like the letters they must get from nutters ?
I used to have a mate back in the 1980s who would send letters to the Test and County Cricket Board saying things like he was unavailable for the winter tour of India. He never got a reply.
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Any news on the press conference in molde? Started 10 mins ago i believe, just to clarify although i prefer lambert i am also impressed with ogs and would see either as a very good appointment.
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I wanted Lambert. i'll gladly admit it. I also was lukewarm on Solskjær when it was first suggested. Now that I've given it some proper thought, watched some stuff, read some stuff I've reconsidered my position. Lambert would be a good option too, as would Rodgers, even Martinez. But Solskjær offers something incredibly unique and dynamic and we really, really need that.
These are my sentiments also, with the exception of Martinez, I just haven't got the faith in him that others seem to have. We've no choice but to wait and see. I hate it, I don't do patience.
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Just go get OGS and lets have a go at things, far better than the idea of ''cant be worse than ekk'', he actually presents opportunity[ and innovation], and board awareness of need.
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One downside if we do get OGS is the demise of that wonderful expression Astonian Gloom. It has stuck in my mind since Mr Woodhall coined it. Those two words summarize perfectly the home page of my mind. It will be like losing an old friend.
True, Brian, but the Norwegians are not exactly known for their excitability. Mr Solskjær will bring the mindblowing paradox of left-field creativity and scandanavian down-to-earthism.
Could be a weird but fulfilling journey ... man.
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
I have had no answer to my application however I think that is only because Paul Faulkner does not have an email account.
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They've taken an injuntion out on me.
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
I have had no answer to my application however I think that is only because Paul Faulkner does not have an email account.
I just called up Dave Whelan. I have NOT been contacted yet, I repeat NO CONTACT has bene made by Aston Villa for my services as manager.
I will update him again tomorrow. He likes to know these things,
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When you said that EffDee I had an unexplainable vision of Neil in the Young Ones reading your post out loud.
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Rumours of press conference being cancelled.
So we know that investor Kjell Inge Røkke defended the releasing of the statement that Ole had provided yesterday. We know that there is a Rokke press conference at 21:15 BST (now cancelled it seems).
http://astonvilla-views.com/2012/05/20/molde-investor-did-expect-ole-to-leave-avfc/
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When you said that EffDee I had an unexplainable vision of Neil in the Young Ones reading your post out loud.
Damn - I've been rumbled!
Probably beter than being associated with Rick.
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Just had a thought. It would cost a fortune to have his name on a shirt,unless............
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It's got to the stage, in my mind at least, that they really have to hire OGS otherwise I really believe it's a great opportunity for the club missed. To my mind, he's the stand-out candidate both in calibre and the practicalities of recruitment, so it's obvious to me really.
How come you never mentioned him a week ago then?
That's like saying why didn't you mention lambert when MoN left.
In theory Lambert is more experienced, but if your good your good, regardless of Premier league experience and most believe OGS is good, it's just who takes the risk on him.
Yes most want him (me included) but we also acknowledge that it will take time, but with a vision and direction (which OGS obviously has) it is all worth it.
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I'm greening up on Coyle and laying Holloway. I've no idea what that means, but bob says things like that all the time.
I'm doing both of those things to Holloway, but in reverse. Think shallow grave scene in Casino.
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@MadsBent: Solskjaer : I can confirm that I have a clause in the contract that allows me to leave Molde to any Premier League club at any time. #avfc
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Not sure how much there is in this but OGS gave hugs to all his backroom staff, handshakes with all his players on his pitch then the whole team was over to the travelling fans to applaud them.
Wasn't the tearjerking goodbye that we might be hoping for from what I could see.
OGS just did his quick post match interview. As I do not speak the lingo, I concluded that he was clearly not ruling anything in or out.
Incidentally they have a mid week game and home match on the 28th before a mid season break. Even if he penned a contract with Villa tomorrow he would probabaly take charge for those last two games.
I can confirm that the post match interview was restricted to a few quickies about the match, nothing else. About OGS and the team's reactions after the match I really don't know. As I am a fan of Tromsø, Molde's biggest competition last year, I really haven't been watching any of Molde's matches before today.
That said, I think today's match was quite representative for OGS' philosophy. Short, passing play, not many long balls unless pressed, runs in space, keeping the ball at the ground. This would be even more evident at a home match, as apparently Molde tends to dominate more and in general play better at home turf. Interesting point: in ten matches, NO draws.
About the supposed PC at 21:15, I can't see any mention of this in the big Norwegian tabloids.
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We Kjell Rokke you!
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: Solskjær to #Nettavisen after the game tonight:-Got a clause in my contract saying I can leave Molde for any PL -club whenever I want
#avfc
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Fjortoft just tweeted that Solskjaer has confirmed he has a clause in his contract allowing him to go to a Premier League club whenever he wants. We're in.
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Come on Randy activate that clause.
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Just had a thought. It would cost a fortune to have his name on a shirt,unless............
..he's our manager? As we wouldn't have his name on the back of our shirts then.
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Fjortoft just tweeted that Solskjær has confirmed he has a clause in his contract allowing him to go to a Premier League club whenever he wants. We're in.
Let's hope so.
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Ozz, yes! But not the only one to be impressive. Which is good as it gives options...
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So he has clause in his contract saying he can go to a premier league club when ever he wants.
Ole ole ole..
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
I have had no answer to my application however I think that is only because Paul Faulkner does not have an email account.
I just called up Dave Whelan. I have NOT been contacted yet, I repeat NO CONTACT has bene made by Aston Villa for my services as manager.
I will update him again tomorrow. He likes to know these things,
We know we'll have to let you move on some time, ciggiesnbeer, but it will be to a European giant.
Clubs of the stature of Racing Club Arsebiscuit, or FC Bicycleclip.
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Fjortoft just tweeted that Solskjær has confirmed he has a clause in his contract allowing him to go to a Premier League club whenever he wants. We're in.
we know OSG would take the job , but Villa need to offer him it first.
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Just give Solskjaer the job Randy.
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sorry bout the OSG .Im merry on Desperado .
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I can confirm categorically that I want OGS to be our next manager, if only because I have this vision that every time one of our lot got near the eighteen yard box of the opposition the Holte End would rise to their feet and shout in perfect unison "Fucking shoot!" Brilliant! ;D
And for many other reasons as well, of course!
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@pschmeichel01: A very big good luck for Ole, he's a great man and knows the game very well.. Whatever he does will does will be a huge success.
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: Solskjær to #Nettavisen after the game tonight:-Got a clause in my contract saying I can leave Molde for any PL -club whenever I want
#avfc
Here's the Nettavisen.no article.
http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/fotball/article3400545.ece (http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/fotball/article3400545.ece)
Translation:
Ole Gunnar Solskjær reveals to Nettavisen why is fully entitled to sign for Aston Villa
On Sunday Ole Gunnar Solskjær had a quick chance to catch his breath after the attention surrounding his talks with Premier League club Aston Villa
The pause was short lived but at least resulted in three points away to Sandnes Ulf who until Sunday had remained unbeaten at home.
Gjeltsen Regrets
Whilst Molde battled for points in Sandnes, investor Bjørn Rune Gjelsten appeared as a guest on NRKs sports review. Here Gjelsten spoke about the 3-5 year plan Solskjær presented when the trainer was appointed.
"Our goal was to create a top club over time, and that hasn't changed. We were quite unprepared for offers to come so soon said Gjelsten, before adding - "I myself contributed 20-30 million kroner (about £2.5m) which i would never have done if i knew Solskjær would leave after one year."
Can leave whenever
The investors statement appears somewhat naive, when one knows that Ole Gunnar Solskjær has been linked to managers jobs with English clubs since he took the Molde job.
Some pundits have pointed out that if Solskjær had a clause in his contract all the fuss could have been avoided. Reality is not that simple
I can confirm that I have a clause in my contract to leave Molde for any Premier League club at any time said Ole Gunnar Solskær himself til Nettavsien on Sunday evening
There follows more on the rift between the Molde board and their backers
He ends with
In the mean time, there is one thing he give self criticism for, that he invited Aston Villa to come on Thursday evening.
"I thought the flight would come at 09:00. I should have ensured that the flight came then and not the 17th."
Edited to correct some typos :(
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Well, funnily enough, I have more to do in my life than looking around the world for all the options available to us.
I dont. I still want Glenn Hoddle.
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Timetable of events.
Monday. Continued rumours.
Tuesday. Lambert odds shorten during the day before he is definetely ruled out in the evening.
Wednesday. Unconfirmed reports of Villa officials in Norway.
Thursday. Molde announce OGS has pledged future to them prior to home game with Tromso.
Friday. McCarthy odds shorten as rumours surface he has been approached.
Saturday. Martinez resigns from Wigan.
Sunday. Rogers resigns from Swansea.
Monday. Molde win 4-0 away to Honnefoss. OSG announces resignation in post match interview.
Tuesday. OGS unveiled at VP as new manager.
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I wonder if we've had many unsolicited applications from managers we haven't actively approached.
I have had no answer to my application however I think that is only because Paul Faulkner does not have an email account.
I just called up Dave Whelan. I have NOT been contacted yet, I repeat NO CONTACT has bene made by Aston Villa for my services as manager.
I will update him again tomorrow. He likes to know these things,
We know we'll have to let you move on some time, ciggiesnbeer, but it will be to a European giant.
Clubs of the stature of Racing Club Arsebiscuit, or FC Bicycleclip.
Right now I am just focused on my game pint to pint. Of course its always an honour to be spoken about with clubs such as Arsebiscuit or Bicycleclip but for now I will stay down the pub. :)
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Ozz, yes! But not the only one to be impressive. Which is good as it gives options...
Very interesting indeed. Options are useful I agree, although I have been taken a bit by surprise by the level of support for Solskjaer, which is really refreshing, and would be really good to have a young manager that a genuine majority (eg Alex) are getting behind. Given time, I really think he could do well, although as I know from match threads etc, you will agree some of the players need to be got shut off too. It is a big job, but OGS is handling himself well since the news came out.
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Timetable of events.
Monday. Continued rumours.
Tuesday. Lambert odds shorten during the day before he is definetely ruled out in the evening.
Wednesday. Unconfirmed reports of Villa officials in Norway.
Thursday. Molde announce OGS has pledged future to them prior to home game with Tromso.
Friday. McCarthy odds shorten as rumours surface he has been approached.
Saturday. Martinez resigns from Wigan.
Sunday. Rogers resigns from Swansea.
Monday. Molde win 4-0 away to Honnefoss. OSG announces resignation in post match interview.
Tuesday. Randy Lerner holds a press conference saying "All these guys wanting to manage Aston Villa, but which one should get the job? There's only one way to find out... FIGHT!!"
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Well, Randy, if you're reading this, my vote goes to Solskjaer. I know how much stock you put in my opinion, so there it is.
Yours sincerely,
Sir Alex "Tyldesley calls me Alec" Ferguson
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I haven't read through all 114 pages of this thread so I dont know if its already been mentioned.
Things have been going on so fast that I have only just realised. Bjørn Rune Gjelsten is the same guy who was involved in moving Wimbledon to Milton Keynes.
I am sure we will get our man but no doubt it will get a bit messy ( it already has) as we are basically dealing with wankers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Rune_Gjelsten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjell_Inge_R%C3%B8kke
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I'm sorry, but I just can't see where this kind of blind optimism is coming from.
It's not 'blind' optimism. I think most people do recognize that he hasn't achieved a whole lot as a manager and he could well end up a bit out of his depth - I certainly do. However, being a bit optimistic he at least looks like someone who can get us playing with a bit of style and hopefully do so in a way that wins football games. That's something we haven't seen at VP in quite some time and it's extremely nice for us as fans that we might have this to look forward to. Hence the optimism. It isn't blind if you realize that it can also go wrong and that such an appointment is a gamble - but if you don't put your chips down in a game of poker you never win. I applaud the board for this approach, whatever happens and you can quote me on that a year from now if you like. At least they're trying to do the right thing...
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It's not blind optimism, he very clearly has a strong vision about football and plays it in the more progressive way. I'm pretty certain he would be a success, it just feels right.
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Er......Why didnt we go for Stale Solbakken then?.
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Er......Why didnt we go for Stale Solbakken then?.
Because we've had enough of managers who have just relegated their club and we've had enough of managers with a history of heart problems?
Would seem a bit silly to jump back into those particular frying pans.
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
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C'mon, Ole. We really want you.
Actually, we really need you! What a vision for the next season.
And the Balti pies are something else.
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
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I haven't read through all 114 pages of this thread so I dont know if its already been mentioned.
Things have been going on so fast that I have only just realised. Bjørn Rune Gjelsten is the same guy who was involved in moving Wimbledon to Milton Keynes.
I am sure we will get our man but no doubt it will get a bit messy ( it already has) as we are basically dealing with wankers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Rune_Gjelsten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjell_Inge_R%C3%B8kke
To be fair: Bjørn Rune Gjelsten was interviewed in studio tonight on Norwegian TV2, and he came across as very decent.
He made heroic efforts in trying to mend the wounds created and try to make everyone look a little better ("Røkke was not raging, angry ord vindictive, he is simply very sad due to the recent developments") and he finally showed proper graciousness towards OGS, pointing out that the group of leaders were taken by surprise and that of course they wanted what was best for OGS as well. Also, he admitted that the release clause does indeed exist (in case someone were still doubting).
Too many amateurish and outright stupid things have been said and done by the leaders of Molde lately, but this performance finally gave the impression of some humility and sense among them.
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Er......Why didnt we go for Stale Solbakken then?.
Because we've had enough of managers who have just relegated their club and we've had enough of managers with a history of heart problems?
Would seem a bit silly to jump back into those particular frying pans.
Fair comment but apart from Koln his track record as a manager looks very good I must say.And in a country with a decent standard of football. Upset Joe Kinnear as well so thats another ten Brownie points to his credit.
Anyway I still want Lambert I like what he has has done with Norwich.
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
worked for Hargreaves
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I hope we get OGS, but my pessimistic gene is recalling that not so long back we were getting all excited about the potential manager and we ended up with Alex. I don't blame him for accepting the job btw, hopefully all parties have learned something from the experience.
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Is anyone else thinking of new username variations for IF he signs on with us.
I think it's time for a change from "John M'Zog"!
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Er......Why didnt we go for Stale Solbakken then?.
Because we've had enough of managers who have just relegated their club and we've had enough of managers with a history of heart problems?
Would seem a bit silly to jump back into those particular frying pans.
Fair comment but apart from Koln his track record as a manager looks very good I must say.And in a country with a decent standard of football. Upset Joe Kinnear as well so thats another ten Brownie points to his credit.
Anyway I still want Lambert I like what he has has done with Norwich.
I would have preferred Ståle Solbakken to OGS. At least when I first made the comparison a couple of weeks ago. Solbakken has more experience, he's simply more proven as a manager. Counting out FC Kõln (which I don't think anyone could have made good under the circumstances) Solbakken has an excellent track record, doing much the same for Norwegian club HamKam as Lambert has done for Norwich, then making Danish club FC Copenhagen a force to be reckoned in Europe.
That said the philosophies of Solbakken and Solskjær has many similarities and I still believe the latter has greatest potential. Question is, will Villa give him enough time to come to full bloom as manager and make the team his own?
I guess we will find out!
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds more like hope than any basis in fact.
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Is anyone else thinking of new username variations for IF he signs on with us.
I think it's time for a change from "John M'Zog"!
easy one for me I will just drop the Z
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Er......Why didnt we go for Stale Solbakken then?.
That is another fresh approach that would have gone stale very quickly.
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Is anyone else thinking of new username variations for IF he signs on with us.
I think it's time for a change from "John M'Zog"!
easy one for me I will just drop the Z
John 'Gunnar' M is the best I can think of right now!
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Is anyone else thinking of new username variations for IF he signs on with us.
I think it's time for a change from "John M'Zog"!
easy one for me I will just drop the Z
John 'Gunnar' M is the best I can think of right now!
Johnskjaer? John Mskjaer?
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds like more v like hope than any basis in fact.
Lets face it Greg, any new manager we all HOPE will do a good job. In the case of OGS I believe that he has the potential to do a fantastic job, and the very fact the board have even considered him gives us all much hope and optimism for the future.
No one knows if he will do a good job, but most of us are more than willing to back him, and the potential new direction he will take us.
#Believe
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I haven't read through all 114 pages of this thread so I dont know if its already been mentioned.
Things have been going on so fast that I have only just realised. Bjørn Rune Gjelsten is the same guy who was involved in moving Wimbledon to Milton Keynes.
I am sure we will get our man but no doubt it will get a bit messy ( it already has) as we are basically dealing with wankers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Rune_Gjelsten
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kjell_Inge_R%C3%B8kke
To be fair: Bjørn Rune Gjelsten was interviewed in studio tonight on Norwegian TV2, and he came across as very decent.
He made heroic efforts in trying to mend the wounds created and try to make everyone look a little better ("Røkke was not raging, angry ord vindictive, he is simply very sad due to the recent developments") and he finally showed proper graciousness towards OGS, pointing out that the group of leaders were taken by surprise and that of course they wanted what was best for OGS as well. Also, he admitted that the release clause does indeed exist (in case someone were still doubting).
Too many amateurish and outright stupid things have been said and done by the leaders of Molde lately, but this performance finally gave the impression of some humility and sense among them.
Thanks for your regular translations and updates Gompedyret, keep em coming!
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John M'OGS
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A mass name changing spell always lifts the spirits of the forum. Briefly.
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Is anyone else thinking of new username variations for IF he signs on with us.
I think it's time for a change from "John M'Zog"!
Thinking of Louziae0; with an intervention to compact the a and e, of course.
Will probably need a mod's powers to shift it, like last time!
Just hoping, at the moment.
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A mass name changing spell always lifts the spirits of the forum. Briefly.
You have all the options though. Paulielambert, Paulierodgers, you can basically do what you want.
(That one is pretty good though.)
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds like more v like hope than any basis in fact.
Lets face it Greg, any new manager we all HOPE will do a good job. In the case of OGS I believe that he has the potential to do a fantastic job, and the very fact the board have even considered him gives us all much hope and optimism for the future.
No one knows if he will do a good job, but most of us are more than willing to back him, and the potential new direction he will take us.
#Believe
And just to add my two pennies worth to this Greg, I know the Norwegian league on a like for like basis is not up there with the premiership, but that's an unfair comparison as it should be relative, in which case OGS has managed a team that has never won the Norwegian premiership to their first title, no small task...
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I wanted Lambert. i'll gladly admit it. I also was lukewarm on Solskjær when it was first suggested. Now that I've given it some proper thought, watched some stuff, read some stuff I've reconsidered my position. Lambert would be a good option too, as would Rodgers, even Martinez. But Solskjær offers something incredibly unique and dynamic and we really, really need that.
Pretty much exactly where I am!
But we're not fickle
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A mass name changing spell always lifts the spirits of the forum. Briefly.
Nice what you've done there with the name P'Ole ;)
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds more like hope than any basis in fact.
Spot on Greg.
This certainly doesn't "feel right" to me at all, I must say. OGS has zero of experience of handling the pressures of a club that is in crisis or with its back to the wall (I'm not saying we are in crisis, by the way). I would love to see how he manages in those situations, proving his all round capabilities before coming to us. Martinez and Lambert feel far more right to me - both would do very good jobs at Villa Park. I reckon Martinez, in particular, could produce a fine footballing side. He has contacts galore and an eye for a bargain as well. He ticks every box for me.
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A mass name changing spell always lifts the spirits of the forum. Briefly.
Hats off to you,you are the David Bowie of H and V.
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds like more v like hope than any basis in fact.
Lets face it Greg, any new manager we all HOPE will do a good job. In the case of OGS I believe that he has the potential to do a fantastic job, and the very fact the board have even considered him gives us all much hope and optimism for the future.
No one knows if he will do a good job, but most of us are more than willing to back him, and the potential new direction he will take us.
#Believe
I'll back him if he comes but i'm not going down the daft blind faith route again. The last guy who had that sort of belief from the fans walked out and nearly bankrupted the club.
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds like more v like hope than any basis in fact.
Lets face it Greg, any new manager we all HOPE will do a good job. In the case of OGS I believe that he has the potential to do a fantastic job, and the very fact the board have even considered him gives us all much hope and optimism for the future.
No one knows if he will do a good job, but most of us are more than willing to back him, and the potential new direction he will take us.
#Believe
And just to add my two pennies worth to this Greg, I know the Norwegian league on a like for like basis is not up there with the premiership, but that's an unfair comparison as it should be relative, in which case OGS has managed a team that has never won the Norwegian premiership to their first title, no small task...
Didn't Steve McLaren do something similar?
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Can someone alter my username please? Olethelonely will do. Thanks.
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds like more v like hope than any basis in fact.
Lets face it Greg, any new manager we all HOPE will do a good job. In the case of OGS I believe that he has the potential to do a fantastic job, and the very fact the board have even considered him gives us all much hope and optimism for the future.
No one knows if he will do a good job, but most of us are more than willing to back him, and the potential new direction he will take us.
#Believe
I'll back him if he comes but i'm not going down the daft blind faith route again. The last guy who had that sort of belief from the fans walked out and nearly bankrupted the club.
Well I think the board has learnt more than one lesson over the last few seasons, OGS will have to be backed but Im sure the stupid massive expensive contracts are now a thing of the past.
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Cheers.
Now for the unveiling of Lambert.
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I do not want Ole Gunnar as all those special characters will drive me pøtty.
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I don't think people have blind faith. Speaking personally I'm backing 'might be great/might be shit' over 'probably will be solid'.
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I say: go and get Lambært
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I'd be happy with OGS but I think a week ago, many of us were more than happy with Paul Lambert. Indeed, we joined the Norwich fans in singing his name at Carrow Road. It wouldn't be the worst appointment in the world if Lambert was appointed. If we do have permission to talk to him then it shows that the name of Aston Villa is still a mighty one!! I'd be happy with either appointment. I would also include Martinez in that too, as a week ago, I also thought he'd be a good appointment. OGS = bold and brave, Lambert = safe, Martinez = decent but Whelan is a knob and will talk us down.
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
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I'd be happy with OGS but I think a week ago, many of us were more than happy with Paul Lambert. Indeed, we joined the Norwich fans in singing his name at Carrow Road. It wouldn't be the worst appointment in the world if Lambert was appointed. If we do have permission to talk to him then it shows that the name of Aston Villa is still a mighty one!! I'd be happy with either appointment. I would also include Martinez in that too, as a week ago, I also thought he'd be a good appointment. OGS = bold and brave, Lambert = safe, Martinez = decent but Whelan is a knob and will talk us down.
I think that is fair. I am sure Lambert will do a good job, but he worries me for reason I have already said. Martinez I think would do quite well with us in fairness, and we would play some good football so not too upset, but Ole does seem to have captured the imagination a bit and have a bit about him, maybe we are at that point that we want to cling to bold and brave.
One of my biggest wants is someone to develop a young side though, even with players coming into the club, that are growing together. Not sign the likes of Grant Holt for silly money at 31.
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
Start the guessing! West Brom, Blackburn?
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think he means Scottish premier league
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Its brilliant what a you-tube video can do. If i was Mcliesh i'd be working on one now so everyone can see his "vision" about football. Shoe in for the Molde job if he does.
Having fun burning your straw men there, Greg?
Just don't understand the logic especially those that want to go shit or bust on an unproven manager who bought the equavilent of the Div2 League especially given how bad we are and how little we'll have to spend. We also seem to have acquired a large amount of experts on norwegian football in the last week who know exactly what he's about and are convinced his vision is right for us. I realise i'm in the minority but then thats hardly a rare occurance. Just sounds like more v like hope than any basis in fact.
Lets face it Greg, any new manager we all HOPE will do a good job. In the case of OGS I believe that he has the potential to do a fantastic job, and the very fact the board have even considered him gives us all much hope and optimism for the future.
No one knows if he will do a good job, but most of us are more than willing to back him, and the potential new direction he will take us.
#Believe
And just to add my two pennies worth to this Greg, I know the Norwegian league on a like for like basis is not up there with the premiership, but that's an unfair comparison as it should be relative, in which case OGS has managed a team that has never won the Norwegian premiership to their first title, no small task...
Didn't Steve McLaren do something similar?
Fair point.
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think he means Scottish premier league
Hilarious.
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I don't think people have blind faith. Speaking personally I'm backing 'might be great/might be shit' over 'probably will be solid'.
This is exactly it for me too.
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
Start the guessing! West Brom, Blackburn?
I think that "this week" is a mistranslation.
I read something from a Norwegian journo said he'd had offers in the past from Blackburn, Wolves and someone else I can't remember, but in the case of all of them, "it was never going to happen"
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
He's saving himself and his quotes/coaching ability for the Villa.
I've always liked him.
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
Start the guessing! West Brom, Blackburn?
I think that "this week" is a mistranslation.
I read something from a Norwegian journo said he'd had offers in the past from Blackburn, Wolves and someone else I can't remember, but in the case of all of them, "it was never going to happen"
Actually, it is not a mistranslation. If it is an error it's from the original journo, though NRK use to be pretty trustworthy. What is more, he allegedly underlines that "in fact, there were clubs placed higher up the table than AV".
I must admit, I really want to bag him as fast as fcuk!
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I hope Racist FC don't try and gazump us (although the links with ManU may be too much for them).
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
Why should he give up? He's the best darned wet blanket on the forum! ;-)
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
Start the guessing! West Brom, Blackburn?
I think that "this week" is a mistranslation.
I read something from a Norwegian journo said he'd had offers in the past from Blackburn, Wolves and someone else I can't remember, but in the case of all of them, "it was never going to happen"
Actually, it is not a mistranslation. If it is an error it's from the original journo, though NRK use to be pretty trustworthy. What is more, he allegedly underlines that "in fact, there were clubs placed higher up the table than AV".
I must admit, I really want to bag him as fast as fcuk!
The Throstles were higher up the table than us, and maybe the Wigan chairman, Alexander Armstrong, has sounded people out in anticipation of Rinus Michels leaving.
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
Well you have to admit they haven't shown much judgement so far when it comes to appointments.
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
Well you have to admit they haven't shown much judgement so far when it comes to appointments.
Exactly.
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
Well you have to admit they haven't shown much judgement so far when it comes to appointments.
By that same token, they have picked out a manager who has a very convienient clause in his contract, and has a proven record with youth.
Can't have been luck, surely?
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
Well you have to admit they haven't shown much judgement so far when it comes to appointments.
By that same token, they have picked out a manager who has a very convienient clause in his contract, and has a proven record with youth.
Can't have been luck, surely?
just proves they want some on the cheap and managing ManU's youth set-up where they spend millions more than us and have the pick of the best youngsters is hardly doing it from the bottom is it. Cowans and McDonald are far far ahead of OGS in that respect.
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I doubt they do that much more N'æsher, I think we plough a fair amount into our youth set up. Plus McAndrew and Jones should be getting as much credit for the youth surely, as McDonald gets them at reserve level? Anyhow, I think the reason people are buying into the "vision" or "philosophy" is because we have, apart from 8 months that were poorly executed under Houllier due to wanting to take a sledgehammer to it all, appeared to lack a direction of travel. Give us that, we have hope it will be better at the other end.
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greg is like one of those whistling kettles of yore. When the positivity builds to a certain level he starts making as much noise as he can to warn everybody.
This next cuppa is to you greg. You perform a thankless task and I'll not thank you either.
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"ogsjaem" haha, love it!
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My last lazy translating deed today! You guys probably know this Steve Bates fella better than me, he might be plonkers but the article had a few interesting points.
From Norway's biggest Internet based paper Nettavisen[url]:
(http://www.nettavisen.no/sport/fotball/article3399517.ece)English football expert understands why the Premier League clubs are considering Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
MUNICH (Nettavisen): Molde coach Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is one of the hottest candidates to take over the helm of Aston Villa after Alex McLeish was sacked.
Supposedly the Birmingham club have already been in talks with the Norwegian on the job, and Solskjaer, together with his wife, have been visiting in England on Friday morning.
Nettavisen (the paper's name) is in place in Munich to cover the Champions League final, but Molde coach's name also comes up frequently in the discussion.
- Excellent step
Steve Bates is head of the football department in the newspaper The People as well as chairman of the English football journalists' Association. He has covered Manchester United for over 25 years and was close to the club throughout the Solskjaer Period at Old Trafford.
Bates believes Aston Villa and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is a perfect combination.
- I think it is a great step in his career. People have talked about that he is a future Manchester United manager, which is due to Alex Ferguson's high opinion of him. But also because Solskjaer has done incredibly well as a manager in Norway, with a team that has never won gold before. He has managed to implement major changes in one season, and I understand why clubs in England are keeping tabs on him, Bates says to Nettavisen.
- Future Star
Bates and The People have been behind recent revelations about Roy Hodgson's England job and Liverpool's interest in Roberto Martinez. How real Villa's interest in Solskjaer is, he dares not answer.
But he is 100 percent sure that Solskjaer is closely monitored in the Premier League, and not just for Aston Villa.
- In England, lots of people have a perception of him as an intelligent, professional guy, who has good ideas for how to play football, Bates reflects, before he says the following:
- I think he is one of Europe's next star coaches.
- If he takes the Villa job and succeed right away, do you think it will make Solskjaer a bigger favorite to take over from Alex Ferguson at Manchester United?
- It's a great question. If one is to take over a monster of a club like United, you have to have experience. Maybe a couple of years in the Villa is too little, but maybe not, says Bates.
- Do you think OGS will say yes to Aston Villa if he gets an offer?
- Good question. He has only had one season in Norway, and my opinion is that he should rather try to get Molde in the Champions League, and gain more experience. They will probably be knocked out of group play, or even in qualifying, but it is important to have experience. Usually you get only one opportunity to train a team like Aston Villa, but Solskjaer is young and has time ahead of him, Bates says.
The English football expert said that Solskjaer will expect impatient surroundings if he becomes the new Aston Villa manager. Yet there are opportunities to succeed, believe Bates.
- It can be a great club to go to the start of his career manager. Villa's not a bad club, but they've had some great managers there who have not succeeded. Perhaps because the fans expect too much, and maybe the team is not as good as many think. If he goes there, first and foremost he must get time and patience from the fans, but it is not certain. Premier League has become very special, and all want success right away. Solskjaer can not expect anything else (to get much time), Bates says.
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well that's reassuring. the same minds that appointed Keen and McCarthy were after him.
By that token, any manager we appoint will have been appointed by the same men who appointed McLeish. So we might as well give up now, eh?
Well you have to admit they haven't shown much judgement so far when it comes to appointments.
By that same token, they have picked out a manager who has a very convienient clause in his contract, and has a proven record with youth.
Can't have been luck, surely?
What's this proven record with youth? Also, surely we should be looking for someone with a record of handling and getting the best out of senior players and internationals, because that's really what we want our team to be made up of. We have seen over the past two seasons what happens when we rely too heavily on youth.
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
Working with youth players in youth and reserve teams is completely different to exposing a team full of young players to the harsh realities of top flight football. In the past two seasons we have seen periods of a couple of months where the younger players have featured and both have resulted in a dramatic slide down the table.
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
Working with youth players in youth and reserve teams is completely different to exposing a team full of young players to the harsh realities of top flight football. In the past two seasons we have seen periods of a couple of months where the younger players have featured and both have resulted in a dramatic slide down the table.
Lets be fair though. Our youngsters play very much like OGS' Molde team. Attacking football, played along the ground and lots of pressure on the opposition when they have it. Under McLeish it was extremely difficult for our youth products to come into a team that played kick and run. There was no movement, no passing and certainly no attacking intention from our first team under McLeish and our form dropped when our youngsters were essentially asked to play a different sport than they've been taught to play.
If we appoint OGS it would just fit the nature of our footballing ethos that the academy and reserves have set for several years. Players like Gardner, Bannan, Carruthers, Weimann etc would just find it much easier to slot into the first team if they were being asked to play the same roles they've been playing in the youth squads for years. It's incredibly unfair to blame our youngsters for what is our ex-managers fault.
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Of course it's different, that's why there is some element of risk.
Nobody is saying otherwise.
But he's not being selected simply for his experience coaching youngsters although it's cleary an important criteria, he's being selected for his tactical nous, his understanding of the game, his character, intelligence and experience as a top player in this league.
It's a promise of brilliance rather than proof of it.
By the way, any struggles we've had weren't simply down to playing youngsters. Some of them have been amongst our best players.
The senior ones have let us down too more often than not.
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
Working with youth players in youth and reserve teams is completely different to exposing a team full of young players to the harsh realities of top flight football. In the past two seasons we have seen periods of a couple of months where the younger players have featured and both have resulted in a dramatic slide down the table.
But it means he's likely to understand the development of players and how quickly they should be brought into the first team. Barring a really substantial amount of investment, youth players will form a significant amount of our team. I certainly don't want Dullins playing a huge role in the future of the football club, they're everything that's wrong with us at the moment. How many young players has Lambert brought through?
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
Working with youth players in youth and reserve teams is completely different to exposing a team full of young players to the harsh realities of top flight football. In the past two seasons we have seen periods of a couple of months where the younger players have featured and both have resulted in a dramatic slide down the table.
Lets be fair though. Our youngsters play very much like OGS' Molde team. Attacking football, played along the ground and lots of pressure on the opposition when they have it. Under McLeish it was extremely difficult for our youth products to come into a team that played kick and run. There was no movement, no passing and certainly no attacking intention from our first team under McLeish and our form dropped when our youngsters were essentially asked to play a different sport than they've been taught to play.
If we appoint OGS it would just fit the nature of our footballing ethos that the academy and reserves have set for several years. Players like Gardner, Bannan, Carruthers, Weimann etc would just find it much easier to slot into the first team if they were being asked to play the same roles they've been playing in the youth squads for years. It's incredibly unfair to blame our youngsters for what is our ex-managers fault.
Not blaming the youngsters at all, but I think we have seen enough evidence over the past two seasons that we can't be looking to build a team around the current crop of young players we have. That is only going to end up one way I'm afraid.
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It's all about balancing youth with experience. Unfortunately some the experienced players have been massively underperforming/not good enough but the youngsters (who have been played out of position and exposed to negative tactics) have been made the scapegoats.
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Not blaming the youngsters at all, but I think we have seen enough evidence over the past two seasons that we can't be looking to build a team around the current crop of young players we have. That is only going to end up one way I'm afraid.
Why not? Clark, Herd, Lichaj and Baker certainly don't look out of place at this level. I wouldn't be against any of them being first choice as long as we have enough cover if they get injured. Then you've got Albrighton, Bannan, Weimann, Gardner, Carruthers and Delph who have looked promising at times too and will provide great cover for our first team in the coming season(s).
They've all looked very good at times in the last season and that was under McLeish. They're only going to get better and better. Plus, under OGS, they will finally start to play towards their strengths rather than their weaknesses. All we need is 3-4 solid players to come in over the summer to fill the squad, a proper manager (OGS) and we will be rocketing up the table.
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Not blaming the youngsters at all, but I think we have seen enough evidence over the past two seasons that we can't be looking to build a team around the current crop of young players we have. That is only going to end up one way I'm afraid.
Why not? Clark, Herd, Lichaj and Baker certainly don't look out of place at this level. I wouldn't be against any of them being first choice as long as we have enough cover if they get injured. Then you've got Albrighton, Bannan, Weimann, Gardner, Carruthers and Delph who have looked promising at times too and will provide great cover for our first team in the coming season(s).
They've all looked very good at times in the last season and that was under McLeish. They're only going to get better and better. Plus, under OGS, they will finally start to play towards their strengths rather than their weaknesses. All we need is 3-4 solid players to come in over the summer to fill the squad, a proper manager (OGS) and we will be rocketing up the table.
The playing levels of the younger players have been discussed on here many times before, but from your list I honestly believe that only Clark and Herd look like certainties at the moment. Weimann, Gardner and Carruthers need more time, but the others are questionable to say the least. I would say that we need more like 6-7 quality players to come in during the summer and then with the right manager we should make progress.
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If we're changing names I'd be quite tempted by Ole Gunnar Sandsjær.
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If we're changing names I'd be quite tempted by Ole Gunnar Sandsjær.
But what could I do? In a way Martinez would suit me, I could be Montinez. But what could I do with OGS? Ole Gunnar Montskjaer maybe?
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I fully expect our some of our more skillful senior players and youth players to flourish under OGS, and donkeys like Collins, Dunne and Hutton will be found out...in fact, my only concern going into next season if we appoint OGS would be our shambles of a defensive unit.
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
Working with youth players in youth and reserve teams is completely different to exposing a team full of young players to the harsh realities of top flight football. In the past two seasons we have seen periods of a couple of months where the younger players have featured and both have resulted in a dramatic slide down the table.
But it means he's likely to understand the development of players and how quickly they should be brought into the first team. Barring a really substantial amount of investment, youth players will form a significant amount of our team. I certainly don't want Dullins playing a huge role in the future of the football club, they're everything that's wrong with us at the moment. How many young players has Lambert brought through?
Not sure about Lambert's record with youngsters at Norwich, but found this article:
"Now we all know that Lambert has done some remarkable things at our club. The meteoric rise in league standing, the improvement of the squad and really finding ways to unlock players potential are all rightly credited to him. But there is one other thing I believe he has done which we will reap the benefits of for years to come.
Lambert has used the money gathered from promotion to build a squad of young, up and coming talent. Look at the purchases he has made this year. Anthony Pilkington, age 23. Elliott Bennett, aged 23. Daniel Ayala, aged 21. Jonny Howson, aged 23. James Vaughan, age 23. Bradley Johnson, aged 24. Ryan Bennett, aged 21.
Of all the new permanent signings, only one is over 25 Steve Morison, aged 28.
Add this to the young players already at the club. Players like Andrew Surman, aged 25. John Ruddy, aged 25. Declan Rudd, aged 21. Jed Steer, aged 19. Korey Smith, aged 21 and lets not forget Chris Martin, aged 23. And thats forgetting the likes of Tom Adeyemi, Matt Ball, Josh Dawkin and others.
This is the legacy of Paul Lambert. If he left tomorrow, hed leave behind a core unit of players that can potentially play together for 8/9 years. A settled side the likes of which weve not had since Mike Walker left the first time and Robert Chase dismantled the group of players that had done so well for us. A group of players that will grow in stature, ability, understanding of each other and belief in themselves as they gain experience.
For me, its almost Wenger-esque the way Lambert has approached Norwich City in the Premiership. Wenger builds a side around young players, gives them time to gel and get experience and they genuinely become better players for it."
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Not that I really care anymore as I'm convinced we are getting Solskjaer but that is about as un-MON-like as it gets. There ae going to be some similarities given that he spent a number of years with him at Celtic, but he's got plan B and C if A isn't working because he is more open minded than MON. Anyway, like I said it doesn't matter because this week will bring in a new era to Villa Park. Proper football, and a fresh new approach to how we play the game. Next season promises to be very interesting indeed as we watch the new boss build our team.
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If as i am strongly led to believe the new manager is paul lambert then i hope those wanting ogs will fully back paul as he tries to leas our club back to where we belong!
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If as i am strongly led to believe the new manager is paul lambert then i hope those wanting ogs will fully back paul as he tries to leas our club back to where we belong!
Oh dear. Well lets hope we dont have to cross that bridge.
The last thing we need as a club is getting off to a flat start. I would get behind him, of course, but my enthusiasm would be very dampened. My biggest fear is Lambert would be MON mk2. A bit more flexible but generally direct or counter football.
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
Its a good point. AVB & Rafa could have been sounded out on the quiet though.
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
Maybe they didn't tell you ?
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
Maybe they didn't tell you ?
In Dave Whelans case that would be a first. The man cannot keep his trap shut.
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I haven't been excited over the Villa for years so I'm pleased to say the proposed appointment has got me buzzing again for the Villa.
Sign him up at the end of the Norway league season next week and this will be one happy Villan.
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It has to be Rødgers.
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If as i am strongly led to believe the new manager is paul lambert then i hope those wanting ogs will fully back paul as he tries to leas our club back to where we belong!
Of course they will. Even though I have reservations, he would be in my top 5 choices.
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in response to californian villain of course they didn't tell me but PF would have to make a formal approach to Norwich and/or Wigan and both clubs - never slow at talking to the media - have flatly denied us making contact. As to the possibility of us making contact with AVB or the Rafa, I think that is unlikely, particularly in view of Liverpool's situation. The former would not, IMHO, join us, and the latter didn't want to last year, and seems to now fall outside the young dynamic prerequisite. We all know that when it comes to the Villa, trying to establish the facts is like trying to knit fog, the only definate news seems to be that RL and PF have spoken directly to one guy, OGS.
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Speaking personally I'm backing 'might be great/might be shit' over 'probably will be solid'.
With you all the way on that Perce.
It's an imaginative appointment (if it happens) We can only hope it works out.
I would also hope we get a couple of decent Northern European players in.
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If its not OGS then I fear it may all seem like an anticlimax.
How I've got so excited about the appointment of someone I wouldn't have considered a week ago is beyond me.
I think the new word for it is 'McLeishrelief'.
I still want Klinsmann though.
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I think it's very plausible we've spoken to Martinez,asI don't think Whelan would have broadcast it this time as he clearly doesn't consider us a big enough club for his Roberto.I think Martinez would want us over Liverpool . Pelty also said there had been other impressive candidates. Who knows what is going on behind the scenes
OGS for me though
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
Well thats where you are wrong .I know for certain Faulkner drove down to Norwich on Friday to speak to Delia face to face.
But his Sat Nav couldnt identify...Letsby Avenue!
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As long as the list of names contains nothing but credible managers that meet the criteria of young, focussed, organised, passionate and ambitious with a desire to play smart attacking football then we cant really lose.
None of the likes of OGS, AVB, Rodgers, Lambert, Martinez etc faze me at all.
I find the prospect of Solskjaer more intriguing, compelling and exciting but that's not to say I won't fully get behind another guy with similar credentials.
I still think it's almost certainly going to be Solskjaer though.
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I'm with Maz, yes I'd like Solskjaer however I'd still be happy with Lambert, Rogers or Martinez, not sure on AVB but that's only because I didn't think much when he was at chelsea. Although that was probably player power
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
Well thats where you are wrong .I know for certain Faulkner drove down to Norwich on Friday to speak to Delia face to face.
But his Sat Nav couldnt identify...Letsby Avenue!
Very good, John; got me smiling!
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I've turned down several Premier League clubs this week - Solskjær
The Molde coach led his team this Sunday to a comfortable 2-0 win over Sandnes Ulf, but he has been in the media recently, mainly because of his visit to the Premier League club Aston Villa.
"I felt I owed myself to visit them. I have said no to several Premier League clubs this week. Finally, there comes a point where you want to talk to them, get acquainted and see what happens", a smiling Solskjær told NRK.
Solskjær says he was flattered by the Villa inquiry, but doesn't mention the other clubs by name.
NRK Sport
Start the guessing! West Brom, Blackburn?
I think that "this week" is a mistranslation.
I read something from a Norwegian journo said he'd had offers in the past from Blackburn, Wolves and someone else I can't remember, but in the case of all of them, "it was never going to happen"
Actually, it is not a mistranslation. If it is an error it's from the original journo, though NRK use to be pretty trustworthy. What is more, he allegedly underlines that "in fact, there were clubs placed higher up the table than AV".
I must admit, I really want to bag him as fast as fcuk!
Thanks Gompedyret. Keep up the good work.
Your interpretations of what is and isnt lost in translation and the thinking that side of the North Sea is a big help.
It is sometimes difficult to see the wood for the trees.
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I think the likes of West Brom are after him and perhaps clubs that Villa are speaking to regarding their current manager.
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So, anyone know where Randy's jet is today?
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If its not OGS then I fear it may all seem like an anticlimax.
How I've got so excited about the appointment of someone I wouldn't have considered a week ago is beyond me....
Agreed. Getting someone other than Solskjær now would be like going from a rampant hard-on to thumbing in a semi. Still a result but somehow not quite as satisfying
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No, we've seen what happens when a bell end has the use of one of the best youth systems in the country.
OGS has a proven record with youth because he's coached the United kids for years, has built a young team at Molde and has set up soccer schools in Norway and wherever.
Working with and developing youngsters is his MO.
It's more important to us that he can build teams from youngsters because that is what were focussing on.
Working with youth players in youth and reserve teams is completely different to exposing a team full of young players to the harsh realities of top flight football. In the past two seasons we have seen periods of a couple of months where the younger players have featured and both have resulted in a dramatic slide down the table.
But it means he's likely to understand the development of players and how quickly they should be brought into the first team. Barring a really substantial amount of investment, youth players will form a significant amount of our team. I certainly don't want Dullins playing a huge role in the future of the football club, they're everything that's wrong with us at the moment. How many young players has Lambert brought through?
Not sure about Lambert's record with youngsters at Norwich, but found this article:
"Now we all know that Lambert has done some remarkable things at our club. The meteoric rise in league standing, the improvement of the squad and really finding ways to unlock players potential are all rightly credited to him. But there is one other thing I believe he has done which we will reap the benefits of for years to come.
Lambert has used the money gathered from promotion to build a squad of young, up and coming talent. Look at the purchases he has made this year. Anthony Pilkington, age 23. Elliott Bennett, aged 23. Daniel Ayala, aged 21. Jonny Howson, aged 23. James Vaughan, age 23. Bradley Johnson, aged 24. Ryan Bennett, aged 21.
Of all the new permanent signings, only one is over 25 – Steve Morison, aged 28.
Add this to the young players already at the club. Players like Andrew Surman, aged 25. John Ruddy, aged 25. Declan Rudd, aged 21. Jed Steer, aged 19. Korey Smith, aged 21 and let’s not forget Chris Martin, aged 23. And that’s forgetting the likes of Tom Adeyemi, Matt Ball, Josh Dawkin and others.
This is the legacy of Paul Lambert. If he left tomorrow, he’d leave behind a core unit of players that can potentially play together for 8/9 years. A settled side the likes of which we’ve not had since Mike Walker left the first time and Robert Chase dismantled the group of players that had done so well for us. A group of players that will grow in stature, ability, understanding of each other and belief in themselves as they gain experience.
For me, it’s almost Wenger-esque the way Lambert has approached Norwich City in the Premiership. Wenger builds a side around young players, gives them time to gel and get experience and they genuinely become better players for it."
While that sounds laudable for Lambert, I wonder why there aren't many /any foreign names in there. It makes me wonder if he might share Mr O'Neill's preferences for British "qualities" over the more technique oriented approach of other nationalities.
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OK. I've slept on this as it's a big decision and can't be rushed into. It's also something that can't be easily changed once the decision is made, so needs to be lived with for a few years and hopefully longer.
So, haveing weighed up the pros and cons I'd like to change my username to J-Ole M. Could an obliging Mod do the necessary, please?
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So, anyone know where Randy's jet is today?
An airfield?
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Not sure about Lambert's record with youngsters at Norwich,
It's not on par with Dave Jones's at Southampton.
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Thanks for whoever did the username change!
If it isn't Ole, then I'd like Lambert myself - he's a VERY strong alternative, IMO.
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MYSTERY MAN Just posted this on VT
Was at VP yesterday for Sunday lunch noticed Norwegian TV filming there not sure that means he is coming or not .
I think by Friday we should know who it is and it's out of 3 people the positive thing is I think the fans will give whoever time and a chance without the pressure of being top 6 .
Following ONeil was always going to be difficult 6th and less cash with a tired squad then season after arguably our 2 best players leave it was even worse ? Then we stay up by the skin of our pants god awful football same old wankers playing up so new bloke can come in clear the dead wood out build a platform . We only need to finish mid table and be a bit more positive and it will bed him for a challenge season after .
Whilst it's frustrating because we want somebody in now and I would ike OGS I think it's right that they take their time interview the candidates and make sure we do get the right person this time .
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Not sure about Lambert's record with youngsters at Norwich,
It's not on par with Dave Jones's at Southampton.
are you here all week ?
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We're doing name changes then I see.
Can I have Dæv Cøoper please?
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MM goes on to say
No I don't know who they are talking to other than Bruce and McCarthy were never ever considered I didn't know about OGS until Trees was spot on then had it confirmed . They are well aware of his popularity but won't knee jerk a decision and are adamant that they want to interview others and won't make any statement on OGS until that has been complete . They like the fact the press are making wild guesses and its keeping cover for them allowing then to fly under the radar RDM is interested in the Villa job there is a poster on here who won't come out but he is spot on with his ITK but not sure if Villa favour him or not . I am not convinced they do , personally .
I also think Matt Kendrick is probably more ITK than the rest of the Journalists , Lambert is not liked by the National lot apparently difficult to deal with .
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/21/ole-gunnar-solskjaer-still-in-aston-villa-frame/
Has he said farewell to his staff?
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/21/ole-gunnar-Solskjær-still-in-aston-villa-frame/
Has he said farewell to his staff?
Well, apart from Hartis and Dempsey of course, who he'd bring with him.
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http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_united/s/1519990_aston-villa-talks-tarnish-ole-gunnar-solskjaers-status-as-molde-legend
From the above:
However, since then, quotes from what Solskjaer thought was a confidential conversation with the club have been leaked to a Norwegian newspaper in which he said hed leave for Villa if he got an offer. I did say that if Aston Villa want me, then I have to go. A manager has to be there for pre-season. This now coming out in public is not good for anyone at the club.
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MYSTERY MAN Just posted this on VT
Was at VP yesterday for Sunday lunch noticed Norwegian TV filming there not sure that means he is coming or not .
I think by Friday we should know who it is and it's out of 3 people the positive thing is I think the fans will give whoever time and a chance without the pressure of being top 6 .
Following ONeil was always going to be difficult 6th and less cash with a tired squad then season after arguably our 2 best players leave it was even worse ? Then we stay up by the skin of our pants god awful football same old wankers playing up so new bloke can come in clear the dead wood out build a platform . We only need to finish mid table and be a bit more positive and it will bed him for a challenge season after .
Whilst it's frustrating because we want somebody in now and I would ike OGS I think it's right that they take their time interview the candidates and make sure we do get the right person this time .
Wow. Thank christ for Mysteryman and his insights.
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So, how soon do we get pissed of with every article referring to him as 'former Manchester Utd striker'?
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There was a Norweigian bloke on Twitter hinting Solskjaer's been offered the job (I think) and was contacting Mat Kendrick on twitter asking for his email address, saying he had info.
I wonder if he has already been formally offered the job.
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I just don't think Lerner would have hopped straight on a plane after seeing him without it being sorted. IMO it was arranged that he would work until the mid season break and then take the Villa job. Villa would say they were looking at other people to try and keep the heat off OGS but it has backfired because of the shitstorm caused by the jet business.
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There was a Norweigian bloke on Twitter hinting Solskjær's been offered the job (I think) and was contacting Mat Kendrick on twitter asking for his email address, saying he had info.
I wonder if he has already been formally offered the job.
I hope so.
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There was a Norweigian bloke on Twitter hinting Solskjær's been offered the job (I think) and was contacting Mat Kendrick on twitter asking for his email address, saying he had info.
I wonder if he has already been formally offered the job.
More likely informally, subject to negotiations this week. But Villa have maybe one more candidate to interview - at least that's what Kendrick says - before they offer anyone the job. All I can hope is that it's now just going through the motions before they offer OGS the job - either that or they're interviewing AVB.
Also, could my name be changed to Mønty, please?
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I'm with Karl Bridges.
Unless Randy is flying back today/tomorow you have to ask why he wanted to be here for Ole's interview and nobody else's? OK, one or two may have been done before Friday, but the club statement said 'more candidate's to speak to', or words to that effect, which suggests we're in the middle of the process as opposed to the end of it.
As it all fits with the timing of the Norwegian mid-season break, it's now hard to see anyone other than Ole getting the job.
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http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/21/ole-gunnar-Solskjær-still-in-aston-villa-frame/
Has he said farewell to his staff?
Well, apart from Hartis and Dempsey of course, who he'd bring with him.
One of his coaching staff was called Odd . Love it ;)
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Unless the man they're interviewing is in the States...?
I agree that they've already informally offered Solskjaer the job and I said as much last week.
But interviewing anybody who applied or were approached is the polite and correct thing to do.
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It also takes pressure off Ole, who can then see out the Molde job until 28/05, which I think was always the idea.
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We have to wait until after 28/5 to have it confirmed?!
Fuckin 'ell!!!
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Has anyone said Bob Bradley yet?
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We have to wait until after 28/5 to have it confirmed?!
Fuckin 'ell!!!
No
It would be announced before, but he'd take up the job from that date. Pretty sure it was Jan Aage Fjortoft who said his money was on that, as Molde have two games before their mid season break, and the 28th is the last.
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MYSTERY MAN Just posted this on VT
Was at VP yesterday for Sunday lunch noticed Norwegian TV filming there not sure that means he is coming or not .
I think by Friday we should know who it is and it's out of 3 people the positive thing is I think the fans will give whoever time and a chance without the pressure of being top 6 .
Following ONeil was always going to be difficult 6th and less cash with a tired squad then season after arguably our 2 best players leave it was even worse ? Then we stay up by the skin of our pants god awful football same old wankers playing up so new bloke can come in clear the dead wood out build a platform . We only need to finish mid table and be a bit more positive and it will bed him for a challenge season after .
Whilst it's frustrating because we want somebody in now and I would ike OGS I think it's right that they take their time interview the candidates and make sure we do get the right person this time .
Wow. Thank christ for Mysteryman and his insights.
His posts are so hard to read. Has he ever heard of full stops and commas?
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It also takes pressure off Ole, who can then see out the Molde job until 28/05, which I think was always the idea.
Another week! We'll all have heart failure by then...
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I know MysteryMan posts in good faith, but that quoted post above doesn't really say a lot, does it?
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So, how soon do we get pissed of with every article referring to him as 'former Manchester Utd striker'?
It sounds a lot better than "former Birmingham City manager".
Has anyone said Bob Bradley yet?
Bob Bradley? No, I haven't.
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Ian Taylor on TS at the moment is certainly giving the impression it's nailed on for OGS
Interestingly he also said John Gregory was interested in the job and had apparently made enquiries
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Can I have my name changed to 'P'oleWinch' please.
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I know MysteryMan posts in good faith, but that quoted post above doesn't really say a lot, does it?
There is a massive disparity between his information posts (usually reliable) and his opinion posts (best avoided).
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Ian Taylor on TS at the moment is certainly giving the impression it's nailed on for OGS
Fjortoft was on earlier saying the he is 100% sure OGS will take the job if he is offered it. Also said that in his opinion, OGS would be Villa manager by June 1st.
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i just believe what we are hearing from the club insiders and what OGS has said,
that they have not offered the job to anyone yet, are going through there interview process then they will make a decision, i think it will be offered to OGS, but we dont know who the other suspects are, and we are not party to what they say, so someone might well be very impressive, but we cant see that.
its just a case of trusting in Randy, which i do, but obviously with the reserve of knowing he can royally mess up because of last time.
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I know MysteryMan posts in good faith, but that quoted post above doesn't really say a lot, does it?
There is a massive disparity between his information posts (usually reliable) and his opinion posts (best avoided).
I think that's probably about right. Thanks for the name change.
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I know MysteryMan posts in good faith, but that quoted post above doesn't really say a lot, does it?
It's the way that he posts as if he's imparting something really interesting that annoys me. He knew nothing about OGS until 'thetrees' mentioned the plane journey, yet he's still on VT playing to the crowds.
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Krulak has tweeted 'blown out by OGS, but are we downhearted?NO!' this don't look good >:(
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It's not the real General Krulak.
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So to sum up:
OGS is one of a number of candidates, we enquired about him, he was interested and wanted to speak to Lerner/Faulkner. Because Molde had a game on Sunday, Randy sent his jet over to pick him up and return him.
We are also interested in a other candidates, possibly including Lambert, Martinez and Holloway.
So once Lerner/Faulkner have spoken to them, they'll make their choice and offer the job to their preferred candidate, who may or may not accept.
You don't need to be MysteryMan to work out the simplest explanations are the most likely.
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It's not the real General Krulak.
Are you sure? I fookin hope you are :-\
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Krulak has tweeted 'blown out by OGS, but are we downhearted?NO!' this don't look good >:(
Spoof account, don't worry sahn.
Though I admit, for a spoof account, that was a disappointingly realistic tweet. Nowhere near funny enough.
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Look at the rest of his tweets. It's a parody account.
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Sounds like Krulak had a rapidly deflaing tyre issue by some service station, luckily he doesnt seem too sad. Either that, or he has met up with an attractive young lady. Seems funny how this has not gone well, as it seems said attractive young lady did her part just fine
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Krulak has tweeted 'blown out by OGS, but are we downhearted?NO!' this don't look good >:(
Spoof account, don't worry sahn.
Though I admit, for a spoof account, that was a disappointingly realistic tweet. Nowhere near funny enough.
Thank frig for that, I thought it was geniune what with all the abuse he gets.
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(http://blogs-images.forbes.com/ericsavitz/files/2011/10/dont-panic.jpg)
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if we appoint anyone other than OGS, then it seems as though a lot of supporters will be disappointed!
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Can I have my name changed to 'P'oleWinch' please.
maedstonevillaen please.
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MYSTERY MAN Just posted this on VT
Was at VP yesterday for Sunday lunch noticed Norwegian TV filming there not sure that means he is coming or not .
I think by Friday we should know who it is and it's out of 3 people the positive thing is I think the fans will give whoever time and a chance without the pressure of being top 6 .
Following ONeil was always going to be difficult 6th and less cash with a tired squad then season after arguably our 2 best players leave it was even worse ? Then we stay up by the skin of our pants god awful football same old wankers playing up so new bloke can come in clear the dead wood out build a platform . We only need to finish mid table and be a bit more positive and it will bed him for a challenge season after .
Whilst it's frustrating because we want somebody in now and I would ike OGS I think it's right that they take their time interview the candidates and make sure we do get the right person this time .
I could have written this and I know nothing about ITK stuff or having lunch at VP on a Sunday. Surely this MM is a legend in his own mind!
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aev pl
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How do you do the crossed out 'o's?
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Can I be called VillaiNorseVillan please, because I'm an idiot?
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if we appoint anyone other than OGS, then it seems as though a lot of supporters will be disappointed!
That's because having a manager whose name we can spell would just be a step backwards
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There are going to be a lot of silly-looking usernames on this message board if OGS isn't our next manager...
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Can I be called VillaiNorseVillan please, because I'm an idiot?
That's the best one yet. You plank.
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It seems Bent has said Villa need to be 'bold' and 'adventurous' with the new managerial appointment. I think we know which horse he's backing on that basis, and an endorsement from one of your star players should surely be a consideration for the board, as well as the fans' positive reaction.
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Can I have AvFc4æVæR please?
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Can I have my name changed to 'P'oleWinch' please.
maedstonevillaen please.
Thanks for that. Sorry to be a pain, can you join the a and e's please.
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Can I have Iæn J please?
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There are going to be a lot of silly-looking usernames on this message board if OGS isn't our next manager...
In which case it will be a reminder of what might have been. As per normal.
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How do you do the crossed out 'o's?
Copy and paste!
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There are going to be a lot of silly-looking usernames on this message board if OGS isn't our next manager...
No worse than all the N'Zog ones when he turned out to be a bit shit!
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I think my son tops the lot.
His initials are already OGS.
I must have had some kind of premonition 15 years ago ;D
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I think i've caught everyone who wanted a new name. Let me know if I did miss you.
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I think my son tops the lot.
His initials are already OGS.
I must have had some kind of premonition 15 years ago ;D
Would that not have been about the time he scored his first goal for ManU. Are you sure you are not a closet ManU fan.
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Can I have my name changed to 'P'oleWinch' please.
maedstonevillaen please.
Thanks for that. Sorry to be a pain, can you join the a and e's please.
Thank you.
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Villa `cross the Drammensvassdraget doesn`t work somehow :)
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Haha. H&V's got Æ-fever!
V'ctm: May I suggest "Villa 'cross the Mjøsa"?
True enough, Mjøsa is a lake (Norway's biggest in fact) but it is quite river-like still. Also, the band Vazelina Bilopphøggers (Greatest band name ever) made a spoof version of Ferry 'cross the Mersey in Norwegian, switching Mersey for Mjøsa, so you would be in good company. Oh, and you get another one of those wonderful Norse letters. ;D
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Would it be possible to change mine to 'OleGunnarDodger' please? If possible with the crossed out O thingys. This will solve the problem of what to change my username too when I leave University this year!
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Would it be possible to change mine to 'OleGunnarDodger' please? If possible with the crossed out O thingys. This will solve the problem of what to change my username too when I leave University this year!
Done.
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Thanks very much.
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How do you do the crossed out 'o's?
Copy and paste!
Heh. Just testing! *ahem*
Can I be nøt3bæd?
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Fast work! Cheers!
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If you can't beat them, join them.
I hope this all works out better than the Zogbia name changes.
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Can I have AvFc4æVæR please?
Cheers
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You do realise if it all goes tits up i'm not changing any of your names back?
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I have a fall back position of claiming mine is in support of the Ireland team and this summer's Euros!!
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You do realise if it all goes tits up i'm not changing any of your names back?
Screw it ....can I have Irreverent OGS
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I am advertising nivea for men.
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I will be flippant about own goals!
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Thank you!
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In any decision Lambert v Solskjaer, I wonder how much weight the fact that OGS has a release clause (assuming it means no compensation) to allow him to join the Premier League will have?
I can imagine Norwich would try to get as much as they can for Lambert and team.
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http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/120521/solskjaers-no-nonsense-tactics-villa-revealed-172573
I can imagine the same training video with McLeish would be him lambasting the players for shooting. I like Mr Solskjaer more and more.
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Well, I attended Oldbury Grammar School.
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I'll just claim that I've switched allegiences and become Polish!
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Edit.
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Go on then - out of sheer hope more than anything - gimme an 'ø' on the end of my Jimb
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Not long been posted on VV
RosettaStoned - 21/5/2012 14:32
Ive just been informed that a desicion has been made and he will be announced before the end of the week.
Im all very meh about this, exciting as a young unknown is, im a little concerned that this may backfire spectacularly.
Where from young sir?
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Get well soon Sir Stan of Petrov
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You do realise if it all goes tits up i'm not changing any of your names back?
It's gunnar be a nightmare in Guess the Crowd, working out who all these tæms are.
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so in the space of 3 posts Lambert is the boss and now OGS is the boss? H&V meltdown predicted Thursday / Friday
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Not naming my source but we have spoken to several managers already , ogs was far from the 1st to be spoken to, and it includes current premier managers , clubs have kept it strictly confidential for obvious reasons - it is my belief that paul lambert will become aston villa manager on thursday or friday.
Well I hope you're wrong.
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Not naming my source but we have spoken to several managers already , ogs was far from the 1st to be spoken to, and it includes current premier managers , clubs have kept it strictly confidential for obvious reasons - it is my belief that paul lambert will become aston villa manager on thursday or friday.
Sorry if I sound mildy sceptical, but you have a better source than Mat Kendrick and Jan Aage Fjortoft? Both of whom think it is very likely to be Solskjær. Is the name of your source Paul Faulkner or Randy Lerner by any chance?
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O'Neill going to Liverpool will start things moving quickly.
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Wonder how that student who whacked £80 on Grayson is feeling?
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I think that this name changing is all getting a bit frivolous.
You're all getting a bit La-de-dah about Gunnar
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Larry?
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Wonder how that student who whacked £80 on Grayson is feeling?
Why the hell would anybody do that?!
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Ach....I was going to wait...
Can I have Aeckybloke but with the A and e joined up and a line through the o if possible please!
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Nice try toronto - but no comment.
I believe it will be lambert but i may be wrong - i may of course also be spot -on !
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Nice try toronto - but no comment.
I believe it will be lambert but i may be wrong - i may of course also be spot -on !
Eh? Anyone could have made that up. You posted it like it was nailed on. So it could go either way on Lambert? I'm sure it could go either way on anyone right now.
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
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Geography has never been my strong point but isn't Norway a little out of the way on a flight back to the USA?
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
Randy had seen others before ogs.
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
I thought we'd established that Randy's plane went straight back to the US rather than to Norway?
Other than that, I think you might be right - why leave when there are supposedly other candidates to interview?
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
I thought we'd established that Randy's plane went straight back to the US rather than to Norway?
Other than that, I think you might be right - why leave when there are supposedly other candidates to interview?
Maybe because he had seen the other candidates weds and thurs and returned home to comtemplate things- expect more on thursday or friday .
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
Randy had seen others before ogs.
How long had he been in the country then? Presumably he was here for the Norwich match, sacked TSM on the Monday, interviewed 2-3 other candidates before flying Solksjaer out on the Thursday evening? I don't think that's very likely.
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
Randy had seen others before ogs.
Really? Faulkner might have done. We only know about Solskjær because some bloke at the airport is a Villa fan and sussed it out. Villa have been stealth like in all of this. However, a lot of actual stuff has happened with OGS, and it won't have been ignored by the board when they come to making the decision.
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
I thought we'd established that Randy's plane went straight back to the US rather than to Norway?
Other than that, I think you might be right - why leave when there are supposedly other candidates to interview?
How else did OGS get back to Norway so quicogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
I thought we'd established that Randy's plane went straight back to the US rather than to Norway?
Other than that, I think you might be right - why leave when there are supposedly other candidates to interview?
k?
How else did OGS get back to Norway so quick?
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Geography has never been my strong point but isn't Norway a little out of the way on a flight back to the USA?
No as all aircrafts fly north over Scotland on the way to US and in any case if you want to go to Norway before hooking a slight left you just do that if you can and Randy can!
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I'd still be happy with Lambert to be fair, I'd be pining for solskjaer but...
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Geography has never been my strong point but isn't Norway a little out of the way on a flight back to the USA?
No as all aircrafts fly north over Scotland on the way to US and in any case if you want to go to Norway before hooking a slight left you just do that if you can and Randy can!
No they bloody don't. When I come home it is the same path as flights from New York and we never fly over Scotland. We always fly over Southern Ireland and into the UK airspace.
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Wonder how that student who whacked £80 on Grayson is feeling?
Why the hell would anybody do that?!
Grayson was spotted at the training ground last week (gospel).
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I find it very strange that, if we have already interview two or three candidates in the past week, OGS has been leaked everywhere, he's been seen flying to England, we know he attended talks (or chats) with his wife and his agent, he's been talking about Villa in press conferences, Molde have reacted, and the likes of Fjortoft, who may not know the full story but cannot be uninformed, has been claiming he's 100% sure it will be Solksjaer. When people say 100%, they have to sure, otherwise everyone always says 99%, to leave that little get out.
So, one candidate has been highly visible, and yet we've neither seen nor heard a single thing, other than rumour, about any of the others.
Odd.
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Randy did not drop off ogs on his way home , i think randy was over here a couple of days before returning, his plane picked ogs up , randy wasnt on it .
The only reason it leaked was that randys plane was spotted by someone, in hindsight it would have been wiser to charter a plane and nobody would have known .
Jan aage never said 100% it will be solskjaer, he said hes sure if offered he will take it- the job would have to be offered 1st!
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k?
How else did OGS get back to Norway so quick?
I dunno man, if only there was another way to get to Norway. If only there were other forms of transport and air travel that OGS could have used. You're right, there is no other way that OGS could have got back to Norway in good time.
I believe we had it from that guy on VT, the guy who is an air traffic controller at Birmingham airport, that Randy's plane went straight back to the US.
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I find it very strange that, if we have already interview two or three candidates in the past week, OGS has been leaked everywhere, he's been seen flying to England, we know he attended talks (or chats) with his wife and his agent, he's been talking about Villa in press conferences, Molde have reacted, and the likes of Fjortoft, who may not know the full story but cannot be uninformed, has been claiming he's 100% sure it will be Solksjaer. When people say 100%, they have to sure, otherwise everyone always says 99%, to leave that little get out.
So, one candidate has been highly visible, and yet we've neither seen nor heard a single thing, other than rumour, about any of the others.
Odd.
This is what I think.
Of course it would be much more easy and private if Randy had a 'chat' with someone like Lambert, but even then the media usually pick up on things like that anyway. We all know how it went when we eventually got round to hiring Houllier as manager, who knows though, Randy might have just decided to be careful during the hiring/interviewing process this time round.
As far as we know so far Randy has talked to Solskjaer already, we don't know who else he has or hasn't talked to
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If you look at it dispassionately, all we really know is that Randy flew OGS here for a chat. Not that big a deal for a billionaire. I think thetrees on VT said it'd cost about 15k.
OGS has said he hasn't been made an offer, which is probably believable, and that we've got other people to see.
Unless we were making a truly gigantic appointment, surely it is mental to imagine us choosing our new manager and appointing him without talking to other people, especially when the manager in question is so inexperienced.
To be honest, I would be both amazed and concerned if they only spoke to OGS.
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I find it very strange that, if we have already interview two or three candidates in the past week, OGS has been leaked everywhere, he's been seen flying to England, we know he attended talks (or chats) with his wife and his agent, he's been talking about Villa in press conferences, Molde have reacted, and the likes of Fjortoft, who may not know the full story but cannot be uninformed, has been claiming he's 100% sure it will be Solksjaer. When people say 100%, they have to sure, otherwise everyone always says 99%, to leave that little get out.
So, one candidate has been highly visible, and yet we've neither seen nor heard a single thing, other than rumour, about any of the others.
Odd.
Correct - and why interview Grayson (Simon, Larry or whoever), if he was indeed seen at BH? He's an unproven second-tier manager with no great likelihood of making the step up to the EPL.
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If you look at it dispassionately, all we really know is that Randy flew OGS here for a chat. Not that big a deal for a billionaire. I think thetrees on VT said it'd cost about 15k.
OGS has said he hasn't been made an offer, which is probably believable, and that we've got other people to see.
Unless we were making a truly gigantic appointment, surely it is mental to imagine us choosing our new manager and appointing him without talking to other people, especially when the manager in question is so inexperienced.
To be honest, I would be both amazed and concerned if they only spoke to OGS.
You would like to think so Paulie. I think they are probably in a stronger position to talk to other candidates with someone like OGS having been interviewed and declared an interest in the job.
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I'm sure someone on another Villa site stated that OGS returned to Norway from Heathrow late Friday evening/very early Saturday morning with his wife but that his agent stayed in the UK?
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I happen to think that post Norwich the decision for the board looked much simpler than it is today. Get one of Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez and the world is a better place. I don't think they could ever have imagined that getting rumbled for meeting with OGS would have had this kind of response. In my opinion, too much has been said and written for the board to ignore the strength fan opinion. All things being equal they will go for OGS because not only will he check the boxes like the other candidates, but he is the very popular choice. That will mean a lot to a board that has to build bridges with the fans as fast as possible.
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Molde like any sensible club wanted it kept private, when these things come out in public it causes problems for clubs and managers- randy was a bit naive thinking he could send his plane without anyone catching onto things- probably friday was the only time they could meet but it would have been better to fund the cost of a private charter plane and therefore keep things hush hush.
Obviously other inyerviews havent taken place in public or at either bodymoor or villa park and clubs insist on secrecy- unless its a bloody fool like whelan involved.
Going public on your manager having talks with another club is ridiculous and if the manager doesnt get the job everyone is aware he wants to be at another club.
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Molde like any sensible club wanted it kept private, when these things come out in public it causes problems for clubs and managers- randy was a bit naive thinking he could send his plane without anyone catching onto things- probably friday was the only time they could meet but it would have been better to fund the cost of a private charter plane and therefore keep things hush hush.
Obviously other inyerviews havent taken place in public or at either bodymoor or villa park and clubs insist on secrecy- unless its a bloody fool like whelan involved.
That private that they didn't tell their own owners?
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unless its a bloody fool like whelan involved.
But isn't Maertinez supposedly one of the key candidates? - so why has Whaelaen not been in the media shooting his mouth off?
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Molde released an official statement afterwards saying they had agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
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unless its a bloody fool like whelan involved.
But isn't Maertinez supposedly one of the key candidates? - so why has Whaelaen not been in the media shooting his mouth off?
Personally, I think he was shooting his mouth off last year because he knew full well that Martinez was staying at Wigan. Probably resigned to him leaving this time around so does not want to make himself look foolish.
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Molde released an official statement saying they agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
But it wasn't Villa who made it public. So they're still a bunch of numpties.
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Molde released an official statement saying they agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
But Rokke didn't know.
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Molde released an official statement saying they agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
But it wasn't Villa who made it public. So they're still a bunch of numpties.
Agreed monty, but randy sending his own plane was a risk that backfired, should have chartered a private jet to be safe.
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Molde released an official statement saying they agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
But Rokke didn't know.
Check the official statements, they knew ole was meeting villa but told him to keep it secret , both molde and ole have confirmed that.
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I happen to think that post Norwich the decision for the board looked much simpler than it is today. Get one of Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez and the world is a better place. I don't think they could ever have imagined that getting rumbled for meeting with OGS would have had this kind of response. In my opinion, too much has been said and written for the board to ignore the strength fan opinion. All things being equal they will go for OGS because not only will he check the boxes like the other candidates, but he is the very popular choice. That will mean a lot to a board that has to build bridges with the fans as fast as possible.
Completely agree with that.
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I happen to think that post Norwich the decision for the board looked much simpler than it is today. Get one of Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez and the world is a better place. I don't think they could ever have imagined that getting rumbled for meeting with OGS would have had this kind of response. In my opinion, too much has been said and written for the board to ignore the strength fan opinion. All things being equal they will go for OGS because not only will he check the boxes like the other candidates, but he is the very popular choice. That will mean a lot to a board that has to build bridges with the fans as fast as possible.
On this board perhaps.
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I happen to think that post Norwich the decision for the board looked much simpler than it is today. Get one of Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez and the world is a better place. I don't think they could ever have imagined that getting rumbled for meeting with OGS would have had this kind of response. In my opinion, too much has been said and written for the board to ignore the strength fan opinion. All things being equal they will go for OGS because not only will he check the boxes like the other candidates, but he is the very popular choice. That will mean a lot to a board that has to build bridges with the fans as fast as possible.
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Didn't the evening Mail run a poll as well, which also came out strongly in favour of Ole?
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I agree, I sense it's down to Lambert or OGS now.
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i dont know who anybody is anymore
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its also difficult to recognise anyone through the different posting styles because you all post the same absolute nonsense shit,
(apart from me ) ;D
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All I can say is, the club have done fantastically well to interview another two or three candidates without a whisper getting out anywhere. I guess we can all but rule out RDM at this stage, seeing as he couldn't possibly have been interviewed last week with the build up to the CL final...
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If we get Lambert or OGS then I'll be a happy boy.
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If we get Lambert or OGS then I'll be a happy boy.
Agreed, both are a huge improvement from
Mcleish !
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Just out of curiosity, do we know when Randy is due back in the UK?
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28th May ;)
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28th May ;)
That can't be right. He has tickets for a game in Norway that day doesn't he? ;)
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I happen to think that post Norwich the decision for the board looked much simpler than it is today. Get one of Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez and the world is a better place. I don't think they could ever have imagined that getting rumbled for meeting with OGS would have had this kind of response. In my opinion, too much has been said and written for the board to ignore the strength fan opinion. All things being equal they will go for OGS because not only will he check the boxes like the other candidates, but he is the very popular choice. That will mean a lot to a board that has to build bridges with the fans as fast as possible.
He doesn't check the boxes like the other candidates though, does he? He'll be a major risk due to his lack of experience, the fact he probably doesn't have a scouting network in place yet he'll be expected to hit the ground running. What makes it crazy is the majority of the Villa fans appear to want him, largely based on a 40 minute youtube clip. Fans have often questioned Lerner's football knowledge with his managerial appointments yet now want him to throw all logic out the window and go for somebody that a week ago no one single fan even mentioned as a possible target.
It's going to be a very tough call.
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ogs is a done deal
rl dropped him off on is way back to the usa on friday
why go there if there was others to interview
he would not leave it to pf
God! I hope he had a parachute.
Yes he would leave it to PF.
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Molde released an official statement saying they agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
But Rokke didn't know.
Check the official statements, they knew ole was meeting villa but told him to keep it secret , both molde and ole have confirmed that.
Molde were really that naively stupid that they thought it could all be done on the quiet.
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Personally, I haven't actually watched the video, but still want him. Although some of this is based on what I've read rather than seen, here's why:-
1. Plays good attacking football
2. Respect within the game
3. Tipped to be a future top coach by many, including Fergie*
4. Successful thus far in his managerial career
*I know some will immediately think the letter and the Scottish Manager, but to me the difference with ole is this was said while he was still playing and backed up by giving him a coaching role at Utd.
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how can it be anyone other than ogs at the moment on the basis that we have made no other formal approach to other clubs to seek permission to talk to their manager? As far as I am aware no call has gone in to Delia or Dave and I'm pretty sure the media would be all over it if it had.
Well thats where you are wrong .I know for certain Faulkner drove down to Norwich on Friday to speak to Delia face to face.
But his Sat Nav couldnt identify...Letsby Avenue!
Very good, John; got me smiling!
Thank You Sir. You are an officer and a gentleman.
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If we get Lambert or OGS then I'll be a happy boy.
That's ultimately what it boils down to and both for different reasons would be excellent appointments. However for the board, OGS represents a much faster return on their rebuilding the bridges objectives than Lamert will.
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Molde released an official statement saying they agreed ogs could talk to villa as long as it was kept secret, when it became public they then blew their top.
But Rokke didn't know.
Check the official statements, they knew ole was meeting villa but told him to keep it secret , both molde and ole have confirmed that.
The chairman of the club may have known...but the money man didn't.
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I for one will be quite excited if we sign OGS, I will look forward to the new season far more than I did when the Scottish Manager took over
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Ill take OGS just on the basis of this....I like a manager who gets involved and gives his players a little kick up the arse....http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/120521/solskjaers-no-nonsense-tactics-villa-revealed-172573
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If we get Lambert or OGS then I'll be a happy boy.
This for me.
Though for obvious reasons the same would apply to Rodgers, AVB, Capello and Hiddink ;)
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Ill take OGS just on the basis of this....I like a manager who gets involved and gives his players a little kick up the arse....http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/120521/solskjaers-no-nonsense-tactics-villa-revealed-172573
Reminds me a bit of those clips of Cloughie on the training ground.
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Can I have all my 'o's crossed please?
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Ill take OGS just on the basis of this....I like a manager who gets involved and gives his players a little kick up the arse....http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/virals/120521/solskjaers-no-nonsense-tactics-villa-revealed-172573
If it's possible, I've just started to like him even more!!!
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NRK reporting Solskjaer can only leave for ManUre without compensation.
Villa will have to pay him full comp.
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NRK reporting Solskjær can only leave for ManUre without compensation.
Villa will have to pay him full comp.
Very fair, but isn't the clause that we have the right to take him, not that we can take him without comp? I don't know, might be a distinction. Either way, get him the hell in!
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NRK reporting Solskjær can only leave for ManUre without compensation.
Villa will have to pay him full comp.
Ole said his clause allowed him to go if a premier club came in- no mention of united, all this dirty tricks from the owners will only make the rift wider - ogs will find it difficult to work with such people, either way i think molde have burnt their bridges.
Two years compensation wont break the bank , i doubt hes on massive wages .
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I think we may well have to pay for him, but the key here is that he is allowed to leave, they can't block it. I would expect we will have to pay whatever, probably a million or so. Maybe Randy fancies replacing the 3 million money they are going to lose.
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Sød Lambært. There's only so much you can do with 'baaa' and 'chop'.
Can I be Stæve Røse, please.
(with acknowledgements to Mønty for providing two copy and pastes in one post)
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Sød Lambært. There's only so much you can do with 'baaa' and 'chop'.
Can I be Stæve Røse, please.
(with acknowledgements to Mønty for providing two copy and pastes in one post)
That's the way I play the game bæby.
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Hopefully I caught all the name changes again.
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Can I have Iæn J please?
Thank you very much, now sign him up Randy.
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Can I get a change to p'ole_æ please. I've always left out the name changes but going all nordic is fine, I'm moving there next month so if we don't get him I'll just shove Bergen in as my location and it'll look fine.
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Any one been following this chap on twitter?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
Norwegian bloke has provided snippets from their media the last few days (in English), quite useful.
Then about 20 hours ago, he started getting a bit odd. Seems angry.
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Any one been following this chap on twitter?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
Norwegian bloke has provided snippets from their media the last few days (in English), quite useful.
Then about 20 hours ago, he started getting a bit odd. Seems angry.
Apparently the plug to the spark in his life has been pulled :o
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Sounds like a personal matter has angered him.
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Any one been following this chap on twitter?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
Norwegian bloke has provided snippets from their media the last few days (in English), quite useful.
Then about 20 hours ago, he started getting a bit odd. Seems angry.
Apparently the plug to the spark in his life has been pulled :o
Like VillaDawg when MON walked out.
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Any one been following this chap on twitter?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
Norwegian bloke has provided snippets from their media the last few days (in English), quite useful.
Then about 20 hours ago, he started getting a bit odd. Seems angry.
Apparently the plug to the spark in his life has been pulled :o
Like VillaDawg when MON walked out.
Like Villadawg whenever we stop discussing Tottenham's finances
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What's with the quote about being OGS assistant manager
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Any one been following this chap on twitter?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
Norwegian bloke has provided snippets from their media the last few days (in English), quite useful.
Then about 20 hours ago, he started getting a bit odd. Seems angry.
Apparently the plug to the spark in his life has been pulled :o
Like VillaDawg when MON walked out.
Like Villadawg whenever we stop discussing Tottenham's finances
Think he is upset about that bloke from Lille. Big bust-up on Twitter last night, with Hazard being called a troll because he is doing the will-I, won't -I? transfer tango with several clubs. Well, so it says here!
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/eden-hazard-didnt-reveal-which-club-842284
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Any one been following this chap on twitter?
https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
Norwegian bloke has provided snippets from their media the last few days (in English), quite useful.
Then about 20 hours ago, he started getting a bit odd. Seems angry.
Well, he seems pretty emotional about Robin Gibb ... which is a bit odd, to say the least.
His view on whether OGS is staying or leaving has changed in recent posts: he refers to a conversation that OGS has had with the Molde financial backer and that OGS seems more likely to stay.
Having just watched the 47 minute video, I'd say that he'd want to win the league again there before getting a job in the EPL; which he now knows he can do pretty much at any time. He just needs to come on here to see that he'd be welcome in the EPL (whatever the club).
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
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Sød Lambært. There's only so much you can do with 'baaa' and 'chop'.
Can I be Stæve Røse, please.
(with acknowledgements to Mønty for providing two copy and pastes in one post)
Many thanks for the name change whoever did it.
And as I can be as fickle as the next Villa supporter, I'd like to reserve time for a further change so I can drop it like a stone when we appoint Lambert.
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
Each to their own.
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
Red rag to a bull.....
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Anyone reputable?
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
Red rag to a bull.....
Ah the temptation!
I've changed so many names today i'm sure one more won't make any difference.
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
They must have been reading the GM threads ;)
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
Red rag to a bull.....
Ah the temptation!
I've changed so many names today i'm sure one more won't make any difference.
dares't ya
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
Bilimey. Not for me either, but it's just a bit of fun innit?
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You want me to change yours John? What's that you say? "Yes you can PWS, and you can choose what my new name will be"
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
They must have been reading the GM threads ;)
Good lad John... liking your style lol....
Some Fourth Official Bloke, and now some betting one. Talk of betting being suspended too but I can't see that anywhere. But seems to have gone a bit mad frenzy on there. It is both brilliant and full of bull at the same time twitter. Like standing in a crowd and hearing loads of voices all at once and trying to decipher which is any use.
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Black is svart in Norwegian don't you know ;-)
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
Dare I hope!
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
So basically you are just making it up as you go along and are now trying to cover your arse?
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
Do you have a swing-o-meter in the control centre, eastie?
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
Dare I hope!
Yes monty - i believe you dare!
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Ooh.. exciting. Any word on how much longer we have to wait?
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
Do you have a swing-o-meter in the control centre, eastie?
Swingometer has exploded such is the power of OGS!
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I'm tempted to ask for my name to be changed to Sister of Tøp Cæt but that would only really work if Top Cat wanted to change hers to Tøp Cæt!
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8/11 on Paddy Power as it was this morning.
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
A bit of a change from a few hours ago then.
Not naming my source but we have spoken to several managers already , ogs was far from the 1st to be spoken to, and it includes current premier managers , clubs have kept it strictly confidential for obvious reasons - it is my belief that paul lambert will become aston villa manager on thursday or friday.
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Sod all this ITK bollocks. I can confirm that Aston Villa will definitely appoint a new manager in the near future and they will be of male gender. There will be a press conference to announce this and a statement will be prepared for Pravda.
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8/11 on Paddy Power as it was this morning.
Suddenly 1/3!
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Ooh.. exciting. Any word on how much longer we have to wait?
I'm sure Eastie's 'source' will tell you.
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Sod all this ITK bollocks. I can confirm that Aston Villa will definitely appoint a new manager in the near future and they will be of male gender. There will be a press conference to announce this and a statement will be prepared for Pravda.
Knowing your luck I've just put £100 on Hope Powell.
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
A bit of a change from a few hours ago then.
Not naming my source but we have spoken to several managers already , ogs was far from the 1st to be spoken to, and it includes current premier managers , clubs have kept it strictly confidential for obvious reasons - it is my belief that paul lambert will become aston villa manager on thursday or friday.
Massive change peter, cant elaborate on here though but it looks like lambert no longer an option.
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Now 1/5.
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
A bit of a change from a few hours ago then.
Not naming my source but we have spoken to several managers already , ogs was far from the 1st to be spoken to, and it includes current premier managers , clubs have kept it strictly confidential for obvious reasons - it is my belief that paul lambert will become aston villa manager on thursday or friday.
Massive change peter, cant elaborate on here though but it looks like lambert no longer an option.
Massive change in 4 hours? OK.........
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Maybe Lambert didn't offer to chip in for petrol when he was on the jet.
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Maybe Lambert didn't offer to chip in for petrol when he was on the jet.
Maybe Lambert didn't offer to chip in for petrol when he was on the jet.
Maybe they thought 'fuck it' when they realised Norwich's airport was actually a tractor shed without a roof?
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
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There has been an influx of tweets saying Ole is nailed on in the last few minutes...
Information im hearing is things have swung massively towards ogs in the last hour.
A bit of a change from a few hours ago then.
Not naming my source but we have spoken to several managers already , ogs was far from the 1st to be spoken to, and it includes current premier managers , clubs have kept it strictly confidential for obvious reasons - it is my belief that paul lambert will become aston villa manager on thursday or friday.
Massive change peter, cant elaborate on here though but it looks like lambert no longer an option.
How does it swing so much in so little time.Somebody is on the wind up.
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
They have every right to be !
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I come on here after a days work and see lots of pages of posts , so I think maybe there is some news and Im all excited ..
and its you lot changing your bloody usernames !!!!!!!
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
They have every right to be !
Eastie i'd quit whilst i could if i were you before you make an even bigger arse of yourself.
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Maybe Lambert didn't offer to chip in for petrol when he was on the jet.
Randy doesn't use petrol on his jet, he uses AVgas! ;D
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To think OGS went out to 7/1 on Saturday. He is now 1/8 on with sky bet. Missed the boat big time.
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To think OGS went out to 7/1 on Saturday. He is now 1/8 on with sky bet. Missed the boat big time.
I thought he flew over?
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His odds have crashed. I have a feeling that somebody, somewhere knows he is our man.
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can i have Ole Trinity please guys, i dont usually bother but im more excited than usual this time
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
They have every right to be !
Excellent news, thanks for confirmation! Also watching oddschecker, very dramatic!
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
The news item I heard on the way home on TS only said that Fjortoft was 100% sure OGS would take the job if it was offered to him.
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I think they will probably announce things very soon , lets hope ole can lift the club back to where we all want to be and lets have some fun on the way.
A new era has dawned and may it be a very successful time!
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
The news item I heard on the way home on TS only said that Fjortoft was 100% sure OGS would take the job if it was offered to him.
That's been on twitter for hours.
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
The news item I heard on the way home on TS only said that Fjortoft was 100% sure OGS would take the job if it was offered to him.
I heard that as '110%' about 5:00ish, but things seem to have developed since then.
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To think OGS went out to 7/1 on Saturday. He is now 1/8 on with sky bet. Missed the boat big time.
I matched him at 10s on betfair on Saturday. Only a few quid though.
Isn't the easiest thing for those ITK to tell us what they know and not use code when posting.
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Just led the news on TS - OGS 'has agreed to be Aston Villa's new manager' They sound very sure!
The news item I heard on the way home on TS only said that Fjortoft was 100% sure OGS would take the job if it was offered to him.
That's been on twitter for hours.
The first sentence was as above. No qualifying 'might'', or 'probably'.
However they then played the Fjortoft interview - '110%' etc, from earlier.
That's why I posted as I did. They sounded sure, but the bets are still on, it seems. Still, it is TS!
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I come on here after a days work and see lots of pages of posts , so I think maybe there is some news and Im all excited ..
and its you lot changing your bloody usernames !!!!!!!
You're a bit off-message there, Jan Pablø
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thanks for the name change who ever did it
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To think OGS went out to 7/1 on Saturday. He is now 1/8 on with sky bet. Missed the boat big time.
I got him 10/1 he was 1/25 on 32 red tonight
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Sod all this ITK bollocks. I can confirm that Aston Villa will definitely appoint a new manager in the near future and they will be of male gender. There will be a press conference to announce this and a statement will be prepared for Pravda.
that's all well and good, Legion, but are you calling it?
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I guarantee it will happen.
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just gone 1/16 on 32 red
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Apparently this bloke applied and asked Randy to send a plane. Randy said he'd send a saw and some nails as well if it would help him finish building that head...
(http://i2.goal.com/files/images/stats/goal/player-images/44/2844_186x236.jpg)
Mr Potato Head gets a nasty shock
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Jan aage was right, lambert was the frontrunner but seems hes not in the race now, only one winner now.
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Jan aage was right, lambert was the frontrunner but seems hes not in the race now, only one winner now.
Why?
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Being 100% sure he'd take the job if offered is a bit different to being offered the job
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What's not to say there is going to be a new favorite for the job that comes out of nowhere unexpectedly?
Just saying since the anticipation for Solskjaer is so high on here you don't want to have an anti climax.
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he's still 1/8 at Sky Bet,
if loads of money goes on him then his odds will shorten automaticaly, they dont need to be ITK, the bookies will just follow the money and adjust acordingly
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What's not to say there is going to be a new favorite for the job that comes out of nowhere unexpectedly?
Just saying since the anticipation for Solskjær is so high on here you don't want to have an anti climax.
You can hope.
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Solskjaer's ours, no doubt about it.
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You lot can change your names. Not me.
My names Andy Lochhead. Not Ole Lochhead, not OGS Lochhead. Andy !
Andy Lochead in the Air. Not in the Luften, not in the Fjord. In the Air !
Shouldn't that be Andy Lochead in the ær
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I'm tempted to ask for my name to be changed to Sister of Tøp Cæt but that would only really work if Top Cat wanted to change hers to Tøp Cæt!
I don't mind - once he's signed on the dotted line! (Don't want to tempt fate).
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I guarantee it will happen.
I zoned out for a few hours, has he signed???
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What has happened to lambert then? Liverpool?
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It's just people claiming to know stuff, nothing has really changed.
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I guarantee it will happen.
I zoned out for a few hours, has he signed???
I have absolutely no idea whatsoever.
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I can categorically confirm that OGS may or may not be the new manager. If not him, then someone else is bound to want the job. That's all I can reveal at this stage.
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You're doing it wrong. As we've seen the way to do it is to tell everyone that OGS is definitely going to be our new manager.
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I can categorically confirm that OGS may or may not be the new manager. If not him, then someone else is bound to want the job. That's all I can reveal at this stage.
That's the best ITK. Ever.
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Ooops... Sorry, something has changed in the last four seconds since my last post. My source tells me it is now going to be Ian Dowie.
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I'm calling it right now. OGS is going to be our next manager. 100% fact. Confirmed!!! Probably. Maybe.
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This is driving me mad! Im logging on every 2 mins checking on here and other villa forums, scrolling through norwegian football sites, refreshing twitter.
BTW norwegian isn't the most reader friendly language ive come across ::)
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I'm tempted to ask for my name to be changed to Sister of Tøp Cæt but that would only really work if Top Cat wanted to change hers to Tøp Cæt!
I don't mind - once he's signed on the dotted line! (Don't want to tempt fate).
I hereby confess that a few weeks ago I tried to get Legion to swap your two names around in the interest of general mayhem and confusion. Sadly, it wasn't possible :-)
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I'm tempted to ask for my name to be changed to Sister of Tøp Cæt but that would only really work if Top Cat wanted to change hers to Tøp Cæt!
I don't mind - once he's signed on the dotted line! (Don't want to tempt fate).
I hereby confess that a few weeks ago I tried to get Legion to swap your two names around in the interest of general mayhem and confusion. Sadly, it wasn't possible :-)
That's just cruel!
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This is driving me mad! Im logging on every 2 mins checking on here and other villa forums, scrolling through norwegian football sites, refreshing twitter.
BTW norwegian isn't the most reader friendly language ive come across ::)
Oh, it's not that bad once you get used to it. English on the other hand...!
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I'm tempted to ask for my name to be changed to Sister of Tøp Cæt but that would only really work if Top Cat wanted to change hers to Tøp Cæt!
I don't mind - once he's signed on the dotted line! (Don't want to tempt fate).
I hereby confess that a few weeks ago I tried to get Legion to swap your two names around in the interest of general mayhem and confusion. Sadly, it wasn't possible :-)
That's just cruel!
& would either of us have noticed?!
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Some professor suggests that OGS could be replaced by Nils Arne Eggen, the legendary manager behind Rosenborg's golden period 1992-2006. Not realistic, Molde and Rosenborg are sorta like AV and WBA.
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When the OGS appointment is confirmed will this site will changing its name to Helter og Skurker?
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Once this is over we have an exciting summer of transfer activity to look forward to.
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What has happened to lambert then? Liverpool?
The Liverpool fans won't be happy with lambert
They still reckon they're getting Pep ;D
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What has happened to lambert then? Liverpool?
The Liverpool fans won't be happy with lambert
They still reckon they're getting Pep ;D
Do you reckon Guardiola does Pep talks ?:)
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I guarantee it will happen.
I zoned out for a few hours, has he signed???
I have absolutely no idea whatsoever.
I'll concentrate in future, sorry.
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Groans...
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Does Guardiola do Pep talks? Pep? Si.
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The only thing Liverpool deserve is pap.
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I really hope they get Martinez, the entertainment value as they go into meltdown would be totally unmissable
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Groans...
Hi Can I have my username changed please? Dont know how to contact mod privately so could only think of this hehe. Please change to 'King of the Nørth' please. Thanks.
Looks like nothings happening tonight then folks. Press conference tomorrow hopefully? Lets force their hand. Weve already forced them to get rid of 1 manager...
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I really hope they get Martinez, the entertainment value as they go into meltdown would be totally unmissable
They really don't want Martinez. Considering his end to the season, and who they beat, there is a damned good manager in there, but he needs a club like Villa before getting Real Madrid as Whetwat seems to think he is in line for.
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Isnt all this twitter stuff just regurgitated basically from Fjortofts earlier interview,Villatalk and H&V itk's? Doesnt seem anyone giving any new evidence. Just people falsely claiming Ole has resigned.
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Just wait and hear it first hand mate. To much bull at the moment.
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I just wish Villa would tie up the deal with OGS quickly, what with Liverpool running out of managers wishing to join them it will only be a matter of time before they turn to him
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I just wish Villa would tie up the deal with OGS quickly, what with Liverpool running out of managers wishing to join them it will only be a matter of time before they turn to him
What a former utd player? like someone said before they are so clueless they dont realise how far they have fallen in peoples eyes, still think they can get pep or jose.
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Isnt all this twitter stuff just regurgitated basically from Fjortofts earlier interview,Villatalk and H&V itk's? Doesnt seem anyone giving any new evidence. Just people falsely claiming Ole has resigned.
That's what it looks like - and I've wasted the last hour trying unsuccessfully to find some kind of confirmation.
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I really hope they get Martinez, the entertainment value as they go into meltdown would be totally unmissable
It would be hilarious.
Most other fans would accept they've slipped down the pecking order and need to rebuild with a young manager, which is pretty much exactly what we're doing with (hopefully!) Ole. Yet they are so self obsessed and delusional to think just the name 'Liverpool' makes others as weak at the knees as it does them.
Hodgson would have done well for them, but was hounded out by fans who thought he wasn't good enough for them, despite where they had finished or what funds they had. Martinez will be the same.
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Liverpool. lol.
To be fair to them I would be mad as hell if our owners refused to even consider the obvious candidate (who won them the CL) just because fans like him too much,
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Liverpoo should appoint Paul McCartney, he's about as up to date as their ideas of themselves!
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Just to confirm I don't want my name changed.
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If his dream job is managing Man United, he is hardly going to see Liverpool as a sensible interim move.
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Lambert has been spotted at Delia's house having the last supper. Tomorrow Sir Doug is at lunch with him.
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I'll be PercyN'theFjord' with a cross through the 'o'.
Ta.
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Kenny Dalglish . Worse pool manager since Michael Barrymore
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I'll be PercyN'theFjord' with a cross through the 'o'.
Ta.
As if by magic, the Shopkeeper appeared.
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If his dream job is managing Man United, he is hardly going to see Liverpool as a sensible interim move.
He was a Liverpool supporter before joining Manure.
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Im bored to death with the whole process and Im off to bed. Also Ive spent the last two hours trying to work in "molde old dough" to some kind of related joke....and Ive failed.
So one of you on the night shift will have to have a go.
Goodnight children everywhere!
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Hello mods, can I change my name to willywombaet with the a and e joined together and a line through the o please?
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I'm going to start charging for this name changing service.
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Several Twitter users are claiming Solskjaer has quit Molde:
@Fourth_Official: Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is most likely due to take over from the 1st June #AVFC
@Morten Skåningsrud: Acording to NRK. Norways BBC/SKY SPORTS. Nothing comfirmed from either of the clubs yet. But this is pretty serious.
Solskjaer have evidentialy quit his job in #MoldeFK tonight. Odds on him taking over as Villa-manager went from 3 to 1. @Signings_TDD #2fx
@holteendhero BHX worker told Mark M. Randy flying into BHX tomorrow with OGS and his back room staff - final negotiations
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Right this calls for a 'guess the page' that this thread will be on by the time its announced on the OS.
My guess is page 193.
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well with most of the users being sat at there office chairs tomorrow it will be like the ginger ones sacking thread so im gonna say 300 pages
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223
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I'm going to start charging for this name changing service.
As much as I like the Scandinavian love-in, you can leave my Dutch one alone there's only a few days until the 30th anniversary of that special night in "The Tub"!
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241
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241
Orange Wednesday's?
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Around 250. Not least because virtual confirmation from non-OS sources right now would have these forums explode well before any official site confirmation.
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185
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210
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All the two's...
196
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199 with 40 "ITK's" claiming they exposed the true story .......
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199 with 40 "ITK's" claiming they exposed the true story .......
Only 40. We have never had so many. And Eastie has even hired John Snows swingometer...
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Villa are understood to have a four-strong short-list to succeed Alex McLeish, who was sacked after the club only narrowly avoided relegation. It is headed by Ole Gunnar Solksjaer, the coach of Norwegian club Molde, Norwich Citys Paul Lambert, Wigan Athletics Roberto Martinez and Villa reserve team coach Kevin MacDonald, who was interviewed last week.
source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9281013/Queens-Park-Rangers-target-new-goalkeeper-with-Shay-Given-and-Robert-Green-top-of-their-list.html)
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The problem I would have with this appointment is that due to the ineptitude of RAL and PF, I do not believe that OGS's selection was of their own judgement. I again smell the outside influence of Fergie and I feel that we are just being used to see if OGS is good enough to manage in the Premiership and if he proves successful then he will move to Man Ure, if not successful then no loss to Man Ure! Are we just becoming a feeder club for Man Ure?
Personally I don't have a problem with OGS but I sincerely hope that, if it is done then it is done for the right reasons and not for the personal satisfaction of Fergie!
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As long as he does a good job and receives support in the transfer market from RAL and PF, then I couldnt give a toss who recommended him or if hes destined for bigger things at a bigger club. We all know they are both clueless when it comes to football so to even think they thought of OGS themselves would be merely wishful thinking...and I could say the same for any PL club as they all take advise from "football experts" when making managerial appointments.
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I think there is no doubt he will be a great tactician and coach. My only worry with him is that he may lack the experience or character to deal with the bolshy elements in our dressing room.
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I think there is no doubt he will be a great tactician and coach. My only worry with him is that he may lack the experience or character to deal with the bolshy elements in our dressing room.
Beware the little man."are you calling me short?"
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Norwegians in my experience do not shirk from calling a spade a spade or an idle troublemaker an idle troublemaker.
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I'm only on Page 43. It would probably be better to 'Guess the Reply #'.
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I'm only on Page 43. It would probably be better to 'Guess the Reply #'.
Good point, I am only on 85.
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God morgen. Velkommen til en ny dag med rykter, betting bevegelser, og mistranslations. Molde Villaen Solskjær sagaen fortsetter.
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God morgen. Velkommen til en ny dag med rykter, betting bevegelser, og mistranslations. Molde Villaen Solskjær sagaen fortsetter.
Err..about quarter past twelve I think
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I'm only on Page 43. It would probably be better to 'Guess the Reply #'.
How do I display "reply numbers" ?
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Above the 'Quote' button:
« Reply #2111 on: Today at 07:30:06 AM »
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Above the 'Quote' button:
« Reply #2111 on: Today at 07:30:06 AM »
Y'know, I've never noticed that before.
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Villa are understood to have a four-strong short-list to succeed Alex McLeish, who was sacked after the club only narrowly avoided relegation. It is headed by Ole Gunnar Solksjaer, the coach of Norwegian club Molde, Norwich Citys Paul Lambert, Wigan Athletics Roberto Martinez and Villa reserve team coach Kevin MacDonald, who was interviewed last week.
source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9281013/Queens-Park-Rangers-target-new-goalkeeper-with-Shay-Given-and-Robert-Green-top-of-their-list.html)
So after being in the interview process twice now, how will KMac respond to once again not becoming the Manager?
And how will Sid (and KMac, if he stays) fit in to the OGS coaching team, given that Dempsey and Martis will presumably be coming with the BFA?
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The problem I would have with this appointment is that due to the ineptitude of RAL and PF, I do not believe that OGS's selection was of their own judgement. I again smell the outside influence of Fergie and I feel that we are just being used to see if OGS is good enough to manage in the Premiership and if he proves successful then he will move to Man Ure, if not successful then no loss to Man Ure! Are we just becoming a feeder club for Man Ure?
Personally I don't have a problem with OGS but I sincerely hope that, if it is done then it is done for the right reasons and not for the personal satisfaction of Fergie!
Apparently the recommendation of soljkjaer was from jurgen klinsmann who is a friend of Randy Lerner. There hasn't been a mention of sir Alex getting involved this time around as far as we know. But then again, what do we know?
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I see Martinez is flying off to the States today.
To meet that Liverpool bloke obviously....
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I see Martinez is flying off to the States today.
To meet that Liverpool bloke obviously....
I wish him and Liverpool all the very best /giggle
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And Randy's flying in.
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I'm relying solely on eastie's control centre for all my updates today. It's the only reliable news source out there.
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Yes, the old owshty bowsh express.
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The problem I would have with this appointment is that due to the ineptitude of RAL and PF, I do not believe that OGS's selection was of their own judgement. I again smell the outside influence of Fergie and I feel that we are just being used to see if OGS is good enough to manage in the Premiership and if he proves successful then he will move to Man Ure, if not successful then no loss to Man Ure! Are we just becoming a feeder club for Man Ure?
Ian Richardson on FiveLive on Sunday was saying there are specialist managerial headhunters out there who basically put Villa onto OGS. It's too left field and too imaginative for the board judging by their past record.
Personally I don't have a problem with OGS but I sincerely hope that, if it is done then it is done for the right reasons and not for the personal satisfaction of Fergie!
Apparently the recommendation of soljkjaer was from jurgen klinsmann who is a friend of Randy Lerner. There hasn't been a mention of sir Alex getting involved this time around as far as we know. But then again, what do we know?
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Not many respected news outlets would have the courage to break news on a done deal, then mend the very same news with a brazen u-turn. Brave, hard, ruthless news.
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I see it panning like this:
Lambert to Villa
Soulstar to Norwich
Martinez to Liverpool
Hughton to West Brom
McLeish back at Small Heath.
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I see it panning like this:
Lambert to Villa
Soulstar to Norwich
Martinez to Liverpool
Hughton to West Brom
McLeish back at Small Heath.
I disagree with pretty much all of that. Soulstar...really?
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Apart from Martinez to L'pool
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Totally fed up with it all.
Why dont we let Simon Cowell sort it out?
or Prince William?
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Totally fed up with it all.
Why dont we let Simon Cowell sort it out?
or Prince William?
In fairness it's only a week since we got rid of the last manager.
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Villa are understood to have a four-strong short-list to succeed Alex McLeish, who was sacked after the club only narrowly avoided relegation. It is headed by Ole Gunnar Solksjaer, the coach of Norwegian club Molde, Norwich Citys Paul Lambert, Wigan Athletics Roberto Martinez and Villa reserve team coach Kevin MacDonald, who was interviewed last week.
source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/queens-park-rangers/9281013/Queens-Park-Rangers-target-new-goalkeeper-with-Shay-Given-and-Robert-Green-top-of-their-list.html)
So after being in the interview process twice now, how will KMac respond to once again not becoming the Manager?
And how will Sid (and KMac, if he stays) fit in to the OGS coaching team, given that Dempsey and Martis will presumably be coming with the BFA?
I'd hope that Sid would fit the new team perfectly - you look at the best teams and they train everybody from the under 5s to the first team in the same style. This could be the first time ever that we've had a pass-and-move ethos from top to bottom.
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Symptom of the MTV generation. I want it here and now and I'll cry if it doesn't happen.
It's still May FFS
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Apparently the recommendation of soljkjaer was from jurgen klinsmann who is a friend of Randy Lerner.
What a small world. Has Sir Doug been like a second father to Klinsmann at any time?
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Not many respected news outlets would have the courage to break news on a done deal, then mend the very same news with a brazen u-turn. Brave, hard, ruthless news.
At the end of what the media are officially calling "The Maddest Season Ever!", we shouldn't be surprised that Eastie's turned ITK. ;)
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Apparently Randy has landed at Bhx so hopefully some news, sometime soon.
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Apparently Randy has landed at Bhx so hopefully some news, sometime soon.
Yes please.
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I read he was coming in to the UK tomorrow.
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I read he was coming in to the UK tomorrow.
About half an hour ago Tim Abraham tweeted that Randy had apparently land twenty minutes before.
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Smoke & mirrors.
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Come on Randy hire the man of the people(well the majority anyway) Ole Gunnar Solskjaer.
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I read he was coming in to the UK tomorrow.
About half an hour ago Tim Abraham tweeted that Randy had apparently land twenty minutes before.
He could've invented time travel and is still arriving tomorrow. We only think its today though.
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Randy could win back some faith by appointing Solskjær. The opposite of 12 months ago.
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Smoke & mirrors.
I'm surprised he landed at all.
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I read he was coming in to the UK tomorrow.
About half an hour ago Tim Abraham tweeted that Randy had apparently land twenty minutes before.
He could've invented time travel and is still arriving tomorrow. We only think its today though.
He's a Jedi in reality, at Passport control he was heard to mutter 'you dont need to see my papers'
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Apparently Randy has landed at Bhx so hopefully some news, sometime soon.
All this flying back and forth isn't helping with the Ole in the ozone layer.
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Think of the carbon footprint,no wonder the weather has picked up.
I love you Randy.
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Wonder if Randy has joined the mile high club?
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Soulstar...really?
Trying to see if the smart routine about spelling his name can cast a wide net!
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Just seen Randy in the Wetherspoons in the airport terminal. He had just ordered Toad in the Ole for his dinner.
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Is he gunner gu straight to gud ole Villa park after?
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Just seen Randy in the Wetherspoons in the airport terminal. He had just ordered Toad in the Ole for his dinner.
He ordered fish actually.
He was overheard saying "I'll Gunnav Sole skewers".
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Just seen Randy in the Wetherspoons in the airport terminal. He had just ordered Toad in the Ole for his dinner.
He ordered fish actually.
He was overheard saying "I'll Gunnav Sole skewers".
That is so very bad that it does the whole circle and becomes good.
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I've been in a meeting all morning, so what have I missed?
We appointed McCarthy yet??
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Just seen Randy in the Wetherspoons in the airport terminal. He had just ordered Toad in the Ole for his dinner.
He ordered fish actually.
He was overheard saying "I'll Gunnav Sole skewers".
That is so very bad that it does the whole circle and becomes good.
If I was still playing World of Warcraft, I'd have a warlock called Ole Gunnar SoulShard
/geek
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As far as I know, RLs Falcon 900 was on the ground at Birmingham all day on Sunday...
Not sure if it's been in today, but haven't seen it. Keeping eyes peeled.
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As far as I know, RLs Falcon 900 was on the ground at Birmingham all day on Sunday...
Not sure if it's been in today, but haven't seen it. Keeping eyes peeled.
About time you became useful! All that training the least we expect is flight knowledge! N85CL isn't it?
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I can't reveal my sources but (alright it was eastie) his plane left on Friday evening, did a strafing run on Taliban emplacements a few hours later, tanked off at 30,000 above the bay of Bengal, put a laser guided FTAM (Flaming Turd Attack Munition) on Dave Whelans chest (assist lase from some of the General's boys - thanks) as he sunbathed in Singapore, tanked off again over the pacific then landed at LAX for cocktails.
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I can't reveal my sources but (alright it was eastie) his plane left on Friday evening, did a strafing run on Taliban emplacements a few hours later, tanked off at 30,000 above the bay of Bengal, put a laser guided FTAM (Flaming Turd Attack Munition) on Dave Whelans chest (assist lase from some of the General's boys - thanks) as he sunbathed in Singapore, tanked off again over the pacific then landed at LAX for cocktails.
That's a lot more believeable than what he told me.
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N85DN - CL was his old one, which he changed a couple of months ago!
Sorry, I've been lurking for too long - the last season severely tested my Villa allegiances!!
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That's the most positive post I have seen all week !!
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N85DN - CL was his old one, which he changed a couple of months ago!
Sorry, I've been lurking for too long - the last season severely tested my Villa allegiances!!
Did he? Thought the pics in Norway showed that number still? What's the new one? Why are you not the pilot??
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The new one, I reckon is N85DN - think it was replaced sometime in the latter part of last year. I'm not exactly sure what happened to N85CL though, it could still be used somewhere along the line. Although the photos I've seen from Norway look like N85DN to me...
Randy would love me to be his pilot... he just doesn't know it yet!!
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If you want to be Randy's pilot you have to wear a huge peaked cap the size of a dustbin lid, and salute a lot. It would be like living in a Gillette advert.
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The new one, I reckon is N85DN - think it was replaced sometime in the latter part of last year. I'm not exactly sure what happened to N85CL though, it could still be used somewhere along the line. Although the photos I've seen from Norway look like N85DN to me...
Randy would love me to be his pilot... he just doesn't know it yet!!
Land that gig. Would be great.
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As far as I know, RLs Falcon 900 was on the ground at Birmingham all day on Sunday...
Not sure if it's been in today, but haven't seen it. Keeping eyes peeled.
Not a Falcon 900 anymore. Apparently he has upgraded to a Falcon 7X.
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Have I landed on the Aircraft spotters thread? If so do you guys have any good jokes?
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Have I landed on the Aircraft spotters thread? If so do you guys have any good jokes?
Don't make jokes about airplanes on the internet.
Before you know it, you'll have plod knocking on your door, be extradited under that incredibly fair treaty we have with the US (need to be mass murderer to come from there to here, need to look at the wrong person in a funny way to get sent there from here), find yourself getting "rendered" to some airbase in the middle east where this stuff is allowed, and getting waterboarded until you say "no, it wasn't a joke, I meant it ALL".
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never ask a brazillian air traffic controller to show you her landing strip
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Wouldn't she have a Brazilian?
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How does a pilot find his bed?
He turns his landing light on.
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As far as I know, RLs Falcon 900 was on the ground at Birmingham all day on Sunday...
Not sure if it's been in today, but haven't seen it. Keeping eyes peeled.
I worked on the Falcon when at TRW Hall Green 9-10 years back. You have me to blame if OGS drops out (if the sky).
Not a Falcon 900 anymore. Apparently he has upgraded to a Falcon 7X.
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never ask a brazillian air traffic controller to show you her landing strip
a brazillion is the proper name for a landing strip
http://beauty.about.com/od/hairremoval/ht/bikiniwax.htm
not that you'll want to read it lol
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As far as I know, RLs Falcon 900 was on the ground at Birmingham all day on Sunday...
Not sure if it's been in today, but haven't seen it. Keeping eyes peeled.
Not a Falcon 900 anymore. Apparently he has upgraded to a Falcon 7X.
The interior of the Falcon 7X should have left OGS suitably impressed.
(http://www.luxuo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/4-interior.jpg)
Meanwhile, with the resignation of Chris Hughton expected within days, Birmingham City are already preparing for their search for a new manager.
(http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/bungled-personal-flight-attempt-1.jpg)
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As far as I know, RLs Falcon 900 was on the ground at Birmingham all day on Sunday...
Not sure if it's been in today, but haven't seen it. Keeping eyes peeled.
Not a Falcon 900 anymore. Apparently he has upgraded to a Falcon 7X.
Is there an upgrade to another Falcon in the works ?
(http://thedeadhorse.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/millenium-falcon1.jpg)
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never ask a brazillian air traffic controller to show you her landing strip
a brazillion is the proper name for a landing strip
http://beauty.about.com/od/hairremoval/ht/bikiniwax.htm
not that you'll want to read it lol
So your pubes have to be a 1/4 inch long if they're fine...or 1/2 inch long if they're 'coarse'....
And if they're not long enough you'll be 'sent home'.
Oh, the shame!!
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lmao abit like being sent home with half a hair cut cus you got nits
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never ask a brazillian air traffic controller to show you her landing strip
a brazillion is the proper name for a landing strip
http://beauty.about.com/od/hairremoval/ht/bikiniwax.htm
not that you'll want to read it lol
"When the wax has cooled, she will pull the strip off, in the opposite direction of your hair growth, pulling the hairs out by the root."
This is why it's called a 'Brazilian' because they can hear your demented screams 6000 miles away in Rio de Janeiro.
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So, a thread about the leading candidate in one of our most important managerial appointments in recent time............and it turns to pubic hair trimming and Star Wars?
Only on H&V.
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well i hear oles wife has a brazillian wax and randy has a life sized wookie sex doll so we are kinda on topic.
although i hear the wookie sex dolls contract runs out on june 1st
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OSG's odds have drifted a bit since yesterday, 1/5 back out to 1/2
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well i hear oles wife has a brazillian wax and randy has a life sized wookie sex doll so we are kinda on topic.
although i hear the wookie sex dolls contract runs out on june 1st
(http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4085/5208221237_2a84cba911.jpg)
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Simon Grayson now 3rd favourite at 10/1
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Simon Grayson now 3rd favourite at 10/1
Which is simply stupid - have the bookies been on here, where someone said they'd seen SG arriving at BH?
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Simon Grayson now 3rd favourite at 10/1
Which is simply stupid - have the bookies been on here, where someone said they'd seen SG arriving at BH?
i know, its only with Sky Bet and W Hills to be fair
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Ole is on Rokke's jet to Oslo to have a conversation with him.
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Can I get a name change to "Toki Wartooth" with the obligitary crossed-out-Os"?
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Gus Poyet looking good at 25/1.
Still looks good now and its almost 5 to 3.
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OleGunnarSændmæn please
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SSN-"Randy Lerner will fly back to Birmingham tomorrow to decide who will be the next Villa manager". Any body got anymore news on this or is it just disinformation?
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SSN-"Randy Lerner will fly back to Birmingham tomorrow to decide who will be the next Villa manager". Any body got anymore news on this or is it just disinformation?
Well I have been called to Birmingham for a meeting! Perhaps I'm in the frame!
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didn't someone earlier confirm RL was already here?
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SSN-"Randy Lerner will fly back to Birmingham tomorrow to decide who will be the next Villa manager". Any body got anymore news on this or is it just disinformation?
Well I have been called to Birmingham for a meeting! Perhaps I'm in the frame!
Go for it. Every body else is in the frame.
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Faulkner's in Oslo, waiting for OGS & Rokke (Molde owner) to arrive
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When is Molde's next game?
I know they play on 28/5 before the mid season break, but isn;t there a mid week game first?
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Faulkner's in Oslo, waiting for OGS & Rokke (Molde owner) to arrive
Any source or just wishful thinking?
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Did Faulkner travel business class though? I hope the AVFC expenses policy is being abided by...
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Faulkner's in Oslo, waiting for OGS & Rokke (Molde owner) to arrive
Any source or just wishful thinking?
Same as.
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Ole is on Rokke's jet to Oslo to have a conversation with him.
Now, probably a private jet landed in Kristiansund to retrieve Molde manager. But it's not Aston Villa who are visiting this time. For it is Kjell Inge Røkke private jet that is in place. According to NRK 's plane marked with letters AKR, which also stands for the Aker Group.
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer confirms that he is on his way to Oslo to talk to Molde inverstoren.
We are on the way to Oslo to have a nice conversation with Røkke, says Solskjaer told NRK.
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When is Molde's next game?
I know they play on 28/5 before the mid season break, but isn;t there a mid week game first?
Molde home to Tromso on Thursday night. Then an away game as you say on Monday before an approx 4 week break.
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The suspense is killing me. Time for bed...
Thanks for the namechange.
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Faulkner's in Oslo, waiting for OGS & Rokke (Molde owner) to arrive
Any source or just wishful thinking?
Twitter stuff involving that Norwegian Villa fan (Andy Eide) who's been keeping us updated
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Ole is on Rokke's jet to Oslo to have a conversation with him.
Now, probably a private jet landed in Kristiansund to retrieve Molde manager. But it's not Aston Villa who are visiting this time. For it is Kjell Inge Røkke private jet that is in place. According to NRK 's plane marked with letters AKR, which also stands for the Aker Group.
Ole Gunnar Solskjær confirms that he is on his way to Oslo to talk to Molde inverstoren.
We are on the way to Oslo to have a nice conversation with Røkke, says Solskjær told NRK.
I am starting to think that this is the way that I will soon be speaking.
The sentences will be ever so slightly too long, also containing many dependent clauses, and slightly unfamiliar idioms, for Jesus' sake.
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Hmmm
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Also: Aston Villa have still not made a formal request to Molde to talk with Solskjaer. #avfc
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Hmmm
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Also: Aston Villa have still not made a formal request to Molde to talk with Solskjær. #avfc
No way. A formal approach must have been made otherwise the Molde hierarchy would be going nuts x10 compared to what they have been doing.
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Hmmm
Vegard Fl. Vaagbo @RBFlemma
Also: Aston Villa have still not made a formal request to Molde to talk with Solskjær. #avfc
No way. A formal approach must have been made otherwise the Molde hierarchy would be going nuts x10 compared to what they have been doing.
Agreed.They would be releasing statements about Villa tapping up and all that crap.
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Here its says he is on the plane to Oslo, and his wife is with him too.
Also mentions rumours about Villa representatives in Oslo.
Put Faulkner, Rokke, and OGS all in Oslo at same time and thats the jigsaw almost complete.
Someone locate Faulkner now!
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SSN-"Randy Lerner will fly back to Birmingham tomorrow to decide who will be the next Villa manager". Any body got anymore news on this or is it just disinformation?
Evening Mail reporting that as well. According to them he is flying back to interview more candidates though.
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I have made a formal approach to the vending machine in the basement and asked for permission to speak to a Kit-Kat.
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SSN-"Randy Lerner will fly back to Birmingham tomorrow to decide who will be the next Villa manager". Any body got anymore news on this or is it just disinformation?
Evening Mail reporting that as well. According to them he is flying back to interview more candidates though.
I interpret it as he is flying back for the official unveiling when Faulkner brings OGS over in the morning.
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You're all going to look foolish with your Norwegian name changes when Ian Dowie is unveiled (it's all a smokescreen the jet planes) as the new Aston Villa manager.
It will be all about bouncebackability then.
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Do we know if Rokke has a bigger one than Randy? Because that will count for a shallow minded chap who was prepared to sit on the bench at manu for 11 years and play 10 mins here and there instead of having the motivation to move and play 90 mins every week somewhere else.
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I'd imagine that we've done things right to speak to him, but the 'formal approach' they mention is probably the stuff about releasing him from his contract and agreeing compensation.
We've viewed the house a couple of times, but haven't put an offer in yet!
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I interpret it as he is flying back for the official unveiling when Faulkner brings OGS over in the morning.
That's my take on it too. Hope it really is...
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Do we know if Rokke has a bigger one than Randy? Because that will count for a shallow minded chap who was prepared to sit on the bench at manu for 11 years and play 10 mins here and there instead of having the motivation to move and play 90 mins every week somewhere else.
Bloody hell Aftab, don't turn into CI!
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Do we know if Rokke has a bigger one than Randy? Because that will count for a shallow minded chap who was prepared to sit on the bench at manu for 11 years and play 10 mins here and there instead of having the motivation to move and play 90 mins every week somewhere else.
Looks like the anti-OGS crowd already has a conductor...
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What is going on? this seems very odd.
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I wonder if OGS has got fed up with us making him wait. Maybe sorting out a new deal at Molde?
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I interpret it as he is flying back for the official unveiling when Faulkner brings OGS over in the morning.
That's my take on it too. Hope it really is...
I take it as MarkM being in with a very good chance of being the next manager of Aston Villa.
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Do we know if Rokke has a bigger one than Randy? Because that will count for a shallow minded chap who was prepared to sit on the bench at manu for 11 years and play 10 mins here and there instead of having the motivation to move and play 90 mins every week somewhere else.
Bloody hell Aftab, don't turn into CI!
Do we know if Rokke has a bigger one than Randy? Because that will count for a shallow minded chap who was prepared to sit on the bench at manu for 11 years and play 10 mins here and there instead of having the motivation to move and play 90 mins every week somewhere else.
Looks like the anti-OGS crowd already has a conductor...
I would ask the jury to ignore my previous remark in the light of current very sensitive situation.
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I wonder if OGS has got fed up with us making him wait. Maybe sorting out a new deal at Molde?
Of all the scenarios available, I'd say that's the least likely. We'd have likely made him aware of the interview process schedule at the time of the first conversation, so he'd hardly be getting impatient - besides, if people like Fjortoft are right, the earliest OGS would take charge of us would be from the Norwegian mid-season break for the Euros, starting the 1st of June. Hardly likely to be rushed with that sort of schedule.
Anyway, with the way Molde have treated him this last week, and the fact that he has two years on his contract left to run anyway, I think he's unlikely to be signing a new deal any time soon.
I would ask the jury to ignore my previous remark in the light of current very sensitive situation.
No worries Aftab, we all have lapses!
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Yet Molde issued an official statement to say that they granted permission to speak to us on the quiet. They then proceeded to get pissed off when OGS jumed on a jet and was splashed all over the media.
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I suspect OGS is going to speak to Rokke to clear the air before he leaves.
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SSN-"Randy Lerner will fly back to Birmingham tomorrow to decide who will be the next Villa manager". Any body got anymore news on this or is it just disinformation?
Evening Mail reporting that as well. According to them he is flying back to interview more candidates though.
I interpret it as he is flying back for the official unveiling when Faulkner brings OGS over in the morning.
Agreed, it's just a matter of time now.
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I think that its Miss Scærlet in the Fjørd with the Læd Piping.
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I suspect OGS is going to speak to Rokke to clear the air before he leaves.
And the thought that Villa's representatives are there would add to that, in terms of compensation agreement and such. Just like with a transfer, where the fee is agreed before the personal contract.
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OGS on subject of talks with owner: [smiles] "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what we'll talk about"
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OGS on subject of talks with owner: [smiles] "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what we'll talk about"
Promising.
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All this speculation is absolute rubbish. If Randys decided on OGS why doesnt he get him?
If Randys decided on Paul Lambert why doesnt he get him?
Guess what Doug would have done . Made a decision last Thursday signed him up last Friday!.......
Sacked him this Wednesday....in the close season!!!..Marvellous
Still Lambert for me!
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OGS on subject of talks with owner: [smiles] "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what we'll talk about"
source ?
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Molde may decide to part company rather than ask ogs to take the next 2 games, i would hope by some time in the next 48 hours this process will be completed , maybe sooner.
I wonder if ogs will wipe the slate clean and give everyone a chance, or whether he will come in already knowing who needs to go and where he needs to strengthen, should be an interesting summer ahead and hopefully a great new era at the villa.
Only big ron and martin made me feel this sort of anticipation with a new manager, i think he will have great support from the fans and in time be a very good acquisition.
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I all fairness, we can hardly complain about the speed of this considering we only sacked the Scottish Manager 8 days ago.
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OGS on subject of talks with owner: [smiles] "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what we'll talk about"
source ?
NRK
From this guy on twitter also confirmed in several places.
@MadsBent
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Do we know if Rokke has a bigger one than Randy? Because that will count for a shallow minded chap who was prepared to sit on the bench at manu for 11 years and play 10 mins here and there instead of having the motivation to move and play 90 mins every week somewhere else.
Looks like the anti-OGS crowd already has a conductor...
There is always one!
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OGS on subject of talks with owner: [smiles] "You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what we'll talk about"
Not rockets then?
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Yet Molde issued an official statement to say that they granted permission to speak to us on the quiet. They then proceeded to get pissed off when OGS jumed on a jet and was splashed all over the media.
He 'jumed' on the plane??
Randy would be furious!
(Good job the seats are 'easy-wipe' leather) ;)
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I all fairness, we can hardly complain about the speed of this considering we only sacked the Scottish Manager 8 days ago.
The Scottish Manager? is this some kind of superstition not to say his name a la The Scottsh Play? :)
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I all fairness, we can hardly complain about the speed of this considering we only sacked the Scottish Manager 8 days ago.
Impatient people these days with this internet thingy. Back in the day you found out Tommy Doc, Vic Crowe, Ron Saunders were the new manager when your Evening Mail got delivered.
P.S. Scottish Manager? Alex Macbeth?
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He could sign a new deal?
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Imagine being a Villa fan AND a plane spotter at Elmdon this week. A permanent hard on.
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He could sign a new deal?
Not judging on the supposed quote.
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Their media guy has said he is optimistic about him staying. A bit worried.
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Their media guy has said he is optimistic about him staying. A bit worried.
That's just the stuff people say. McLeish said he'd still be in charge next season.
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In a comical Ali sort of way?
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Make the offer and get Solskjaer.
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Ok, I'm a bit confused as to what is actually going on - seems like he's on his way, then he's not, and then he is and then Randy does something and OGS does something else and then a mad bunch of Norwegians claim this and eventually it all ends up with him being hauled down to Oslo to be told some facts from the management?
In actual fact, it sounds like he's being hauled down to Oslo in order to be told off for something. Although that news that the Norwegian media guy is optimistic about him staying is a bit like being shown the wonderful prize and instead ending up with a sodding Goldfish.
Fingers crossed this sorts out tomorrow.
This beats the hell out of the last close season though...
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
If Faulkner, or indeed anyone from Villa, is in Oslo today, then that's the clincher. However, if they're not, that doesn't mean we're definitely not getting Solskjaer. It's a very up-in-the-air sort of situation right now.
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Wheres
Wally Faulkner ? Oslo?
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
He isn't.
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It's a very up-in-the-air sort of situation right now.
That's often the case with private jets!
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
He isn't.
Dammit!
Ah well it seems a clear the air meeting then....which may not be good for Villa.
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
He isn't.
In which case, damn it.
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Guys, not signing Solskjaer is not the be all and end all. Lambert is just as good a candidate imo.
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
He isn't.
Dammit!
Ah well it seems a clear the air meeting then....which may not be good for Villa.
I wouldn't worry about such things.
If we make the offer, Solskjaer is coming to Villa. I'm sure he's weighed up all the arguments in his head, the pros and cons, moving his family, risking his burgeoning reputation, all sorts. They may want to clear the air so they don't part on such terrible terms as seemed the case this weekend just gone, but they're still parting if we want them to.
Worry more about our board reverting to their natural conservativism and not going for him!
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As Monty said, Faulkner not being is Oslo says very little about the situation.
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Guys, not signing Solskjær is not the be all and end all. Lambert is just as good a candidate imo.
According to SSN we haven't even approached him
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If Faulkner is there, then I'd say it's pretty clear.
He isn't.
Dammit!
Ah well it seems a clear the air meeting then....which may not be good for Villa.
Its reported OGS wife Silje is on the plane to Oslo...I think they will be flying onto Birmingham in the morning.
Ok so Faulkner is not in Oslo, but we can have another club official at there.
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We may already have agreed the compo and Rokke is just going to rant at him for a while before he leaves?
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We may already have agreed the compo and Rokke is just going to rant at him for a while before he leaves?
Unless that's contractually stipulated, I don't see why OGS would agree to or put up with that.
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Guys, not signing Solskjær is not the be all and end all. Lambert is just as good a candidate imo.
According to SSN we haven't even approached him
According to sky sports news on the weekend, OGS turned us down and we all know what happened there now dont we.
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We may already have agreed the compo and Rokke is just going to rant at him for a while before he leaves?
Unless that's contractually stipulated, I don't see why OGS would agree to or put up with that.
I was being facetious, but it could be agreed and just be a clearing the air/no hard feelings meeting could it not?
It's all guesswork on our part anyway, as usual!
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We may already have agreed the compo and Rokke is just going to rant at him for a while before he leaves?
Or do that thing in `The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo' where the villain ties the hero up and attaches him by the neck to a cable winch
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I dont think anybody really knows what is going on at the moment. Just speculation and excitement from us all.
What a change to see so many positive posts on this site for a change.Great to see a bit of positive stuff after our season of dross,anger and despair.
A very important time for our club and crucial the right decisions are made for everybody concerned.
It is about time we had a good chance of qualifying for Europe again with a quality manager at the helm and a board who will back him.
Mid table mediocracy or worse is not where our Villa should be,never. So lets move onwards and upwards and get back to where we deserve to be,towards the top of the premier league fighting for major honours again.
This past season has been, for all of us concerned,just to much to take and may it never happen again.
UP THE VILLA.
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
Well, yes. And they have a very energetic popular press, and a country where not much happens.
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
In fairness, yes he is. He's already received, essentially, a Norwegian knighthood from the King, the youngest person ever to receive one. It's something like if Shearer won the league with Newcastle then got offered the Juventus job or something. Imagine if that happened here! Chaos would reign in the press.
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
Well, yes. And they have a very energetic popular press, and a country where not much happens.
Their newspaper websites also love headlines in gigantic type.
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Ive been at work all day and no access to a comp can somebody just update the basics on what happening with OGS?
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Yes. If I were the editor of a Norwegian paper it would be months before I stopped running stories like: `Fucking Hell! Beer is So Expensive!'
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I've got a horrible feeling we're going to end up with egg on our faces & Martinez in the chair
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
Well, yes. And they have a very energetic popular press, and a country where not much happens.
A certain Mr Breivik would beg to differ.
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I've got a horrible feeling we're going to end up with egg on our faces & Martinez in the chair
I still don't think would be a terrible outcome.
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I've got a horrible feeling we're going to end up with egg on our faces & Martinez in the chair
I still don't think would be a terrible outcome.
Same here. I can understand everyones excitement but I think we shouldnt dismiss other suitable candidates.
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According to VG (Norwegian newspaper) Ole arrived in Oslo with his wife and his agent.
News Reporter from Norway on SSN earlier, apparently press conference to take place later.
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Guys, not signing Solskjær is not the be all and end all. Lambert is just as good a candidate imo.
According to SSN we haven't even approached him
Oh really !
Standards really are slipping in murdoch towers. As if paul would tell sky everything, or nowrich would admit their manager was interested in another job.
As should be the case discretion is in the best interests of all concerned until a job offer is actually made , unless you are dave whelan.
If paul spoke to villa and was overlooked no- one would be the wiser, if it was made public then both manager and club would face problems as a result.
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Oh excellent! Another press conference.
It's either that he's staying, or he's handed in his resignation.
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They like their press conferences over there don't they
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I'm feeling worried I've got a horrid feeling he's staying
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More nordic monopthongs than you can shæke a stick at, but no John Blackwell to be seen.
I hope he makes an appearance. This is his time.
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We may already have agreed the compo and Rokke is just going to rant at him for a while before he leaves?
Or do that thing in `The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo' where the villain ties the hero up and attaches him by the neck to a cable winch
You git, I haven't watched that or read the book and now you've gone and spoilt it. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your groin.
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I've got a horrible feeling we're going to end up with egg on our faces & Martinez in the chair
I still don't think would be a terrible outcome.
Same here. I can understand everyones excitement but I think we shouldnt dismiss other suitable candidates.
Nice to see some common sense. If he comes OK if not Paul Lambert will be there.
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We may already have agreed the compo and Rokke is just going to rant at him for a while before he leaves?
Or do that thing in `The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo' where the villain ties the hero up and attaches him by the neck to a cable winch
You git, I haven't watched that or read the book and now you've gone and spoilt it. May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your groin.
Sorry, I thought I was the last person in the world not to have read it. I tried, but I couldn't get into the idea of a heroic journalist, for some reason.
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
Well, yes. And they have a very energetic popular press, and a country where not much happens.
A certain Mr Breivik would beg to differ.
Perhaps this could be the last Breivik joke
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I've got a horrible feeling we're going to end up with egg on our faces & Martinez in the chair
I still don't think would be a terrible outcome.
Same here. I can understand everyones excitement but I think we shouldnt dismiss other suitable candidates.
Nice to see some common sense. If he comes OK if not Paul Lambert will be there.
I don't think anybody has said that it has to be Solskjaer at all costs and that nobody else will do, have they?
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I think Villa will be very careful with this appointment. They will be careful about any offers that are made so they don't end up burning their bridges with another possible candidate. For example if they were turned down by their first choice for the job....
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I am amazed at how much coverage this is getting in the Norwegian media.
Is OGS some kind of national megastar over there?
Well, yes. And they have a very energetic popular press, and a country where not much happens.
A certain Mr Breivik would beg to differ.
Perhaps this could be the last Breivik joke
I believe that Anders Breivik richly deserves ridicule. If we take him at face value, he wins.
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I don't think anybody has said that it has to be Solskjær at all costs and that nobody else will do, have they?
It has to be Solskjær at all costs; nobody else will do!
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No matter how I try to word that it just doesn't seem right, I hope you get my point??? I think last time we were maybe turned down by candidates as they didn't want to be second best.
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According to VG (Norwegian newspaper) Ole arrived in Oslo with his wife and his agent.
News Reporter from Norway on SSN earlier, apparently press conference to take place later.
Will his wife be on the bench if he becomes our manager? At least she can cut the oranges up at half time.
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According to VG (Norwegian newspaper) Ole arrived in Oslo with his wife and his agent.
News Reporter from Norway on SSN earlier, apparently press conference to take place later.
Will his wife be on the bench if he becomes our manager? At least she can cut the oranges up at half time.
She can give Barry Bannan a big hug if he gets subbed, and help him put his coat on.
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I've got a feeling she wears the trousers in that relationship
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I don't think anybody has said that it has to be Solskjær at all costs and that nobody else will do, have they?
It has to be Solskjær at all costs; nobody else will do!
except Paul Lambert
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I don't think anybody has said that it has to be Solskjær at all costs and that nobody else will do, have they?
It has to be Solskjær at all costs; nobody else will do!
except Brendan Rogers
Fixed
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Solskjaer seems to have said a lot so far (all the right things mind you) his club seems to be unhappy. The Norweign press
are having a big say and why not he is a big star in that country. But if it was going to be done shouldnt it have happened by now? Just in case say Liverpool or even West Brom stick their noses in.
You may have noticed Paul Lambert has said absolutely nothing. His club have said more or less nothing. Villa have said nothing.
Guess who the new managers going to be.
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Solskjær seems to have said a lot so far (all the right things mind you) his club seems to be unhappy. The Norweign press
are having a big say and why not he is a big star in that country. But if it was going to be done shouldnt it have happened by now? Just in case say Liverpool or even West Brom stick their noses in.
You may have noticed Paul Lambert has said absolutely nothing. His club have said more or less nothing. Villa have said nothing.
Guess who the new managers going to be.
Lambert hasn't been contacted at all.
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Solskjær seems to have said a lot so far (all the right things mind you) his club seems to be unhappy. The Norweign press
are having a big say and why not he is a big star in that country. But if it was going to be done shouldnt it have happened by now? Just in case say Liverpool or even West Brom stick their noses in.
You may have noticed Paul Lambert has said absolutely nothing. His club have said more or less nothing. Villa have said nothing.
Guess who the new managers going to be.
Solksjaer would have been kept quiet if the plane hadnt been rumbled- once the cat was out the bag no way they could deny it- it wasnt molde, ole or villas choice that it became public.
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mat kendrick has recently posted an unsubtle a-ha link re take on me? apparently the lyric contains a reference about being gone in a day or two
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Just because Sky Sports have said that doesnt mean its true Dave. Lets face it if there is only one candidate for the job he should have been signed up by now!
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Solskjær seems to have said a lot so far (all the right things mind you) his club seems to be unhappy. The Norweign press
are having a big say and why not he is a big star in that country. But if it was going to be done shouldnt it have happened by now? Just in case say Liverpool or even West Brom stick their noses in.
You may have noticed Paul Lambert has said absolutely nothing. His club have said more or less nothing. Villa have said nothing.
Guess who the new managers going to be.
Lambert hasn't been contacted at all.
Are you 100% sure on that ?
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Just because Sky Sports have said that doesnt mean its true Dave. Lets face it if there is only one candidate for the job he should have been signed up by now!
He didn't say there was one candidate, he said Lambert hadn't been contacted.
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Just because Sky Sports have said that doesnt mean its true Dave. Lets face it if there is only one candidate for the job he should have been signed up by now!
Why? Do you have a different copy of "A Guide to Signing a New Football Manager Currently Employed in Norway" than the rest of us?
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Just because Sky Sports have said that doesnt mean its true Dave. Lets face it if there is only one candidate for the job he should have been signed up by now!
Why? Do you have a different copy of "A Guide to Signing a New Football Manager Currently Employed in Norway" than the rest of us?
I've only got the 1998 edition with a foreword by Egil Olsen.
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Yes thats true. Does this mean Mick McCarthy's got a chance!!
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Just because Sky Sports have said that doesnt mean its true Dave. Lets face it if there is only one candidate for the job he should have been signed up by now!
Why? Do you have a different copy of "A Guide to Signing a New Football Manager Currently Employed in Norway" than the rest of us?
I've only got the 1998 edition with a foreword by Egil Olsen.
Get with it. Your so out of touch with the modern game.
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Hmmm, if there's a press conference coming up I think it may mean Solskjaer is staying. They've had a meeting and patched things up perhaps.
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Hmmm, if there's a press conference coming up I think it may mean Solskjær is staying. They've had a meeting and patched things up perhaps.
Doubt it.
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Just for the record and betting odds...I've just returned home from a "formal" job interview in Birmingham, but it was neither for Aston Villa, there was no private jet involved and I'm not from Norway, so please dont place your hard earned money backing me for the Villa job!
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Just for the record and betting odds...I've just returned home from a "formal" job interview in Birmingham, but it was neither for Aston Villa, there was no private jet involved and I'm not from Norway, so please dont place your hard earned money backing me for the Villa job!
You just lost me my house.
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Hmmm, if there's a press conference coming up I think it may mean Solskjær is staying. They've had a meeting and patched things up perhaps.
Doubt it.
I saw the norwegian reporter on tv earlier but never saw mention of a press conference later - has this been confirmed and any time on it?
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Just because Sky Sports have said that doesnt mean its true Dave. Lets face it if there is only one candidate for the job he should have been signed up by now!
Why? Do you have a different copy of "A Guide to Signing a New Football Manager Currently Employed in Norway" than the rest of us?
I've only got the 1998 edition with a foreword by Egil Olsen.
lol, I am dying here. ;D
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
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No more than usual.
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Especially as with the new software names can only be changed once a year.
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Im tempted for Juan Grayson . But I ain't doing it .
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Once a calendar year, by the way.
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about a tattoo saying "Ole" that at certain moments expands to say "Ole Gunnar Solskjær".
But i'm too much a gentleman to make such a joke.
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I wouldn't worry, he's going to be Villa's manager.
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about a tattoo saying "Ole" that at certain moments expands to say "Ole Gunnar Solskjær".
But i'm too much a gentleman to make such a joke.
If you can fit Ole Gunnar Solskjaer on it mate, I'd give Ron Jeremy a call because you're in the wrong line of work.
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What's his number?
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about a tattoo saying "Ole" that at certain moments expands to say "Ole Gunnar Solskjær".
But i'm too much a gentleman to make such a joke.
If you can fit Ole Gunnar Solskjær on it mate, I'd give Ron Jeremy a call because you're in the wrong line of work.
You mean you can't? I just assumed everyone would be able to.
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about a tattoo saying "Ole" that at certain moments expands to say "Ole Gunnar Solskjær".
But i'm too much a gentleman to make such a joke.
If you can fit Ole Gunnar Solskjær on it mate, I'd give Ron Jeremy a call because you're in the wrong line of work.
You mean you can't? I just assumed everyone would be able to.
Us lucky ones can fit ole gunnar solksaers claret and blue army!
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about a tattoo saying "Ole" that at certain moments expands to say "Ole Gunnar Solskjær".
But i'm too much a gentleman to make such a joke.
If you can fit Ole Gunnar Solskjær on it mate, I'd give Ron Jeremy a call because you're in the wrong line of work.
You mean you can't? I just assumed everyone would be able to.
Us lucky ones can fit ole gunnar solksaers claret and blue army!
yeh, around your waistline.
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Lets hope nobody has opted for a tattoo.
I'm sure there is a joke in there somewhere about a tattoo saying "Ole" that at certain moments expands to say "Ole Gunnar Solskjær".
But i'm too much a gentleman to make such a joke.
If you can fit Ole Gunnar Solskjær on it mate, I'd give Ron Jeremy a call because you're in the wrong line of work.
You mean you can't? I just assumed everyone would be able to.
Us unlucky ones can't even fit Ole on it.
Corrected it for you.
*evil grin*
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Yep, it's amazing what you can achieve with a variable font size.
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Can't even fit mine in the Ole.
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Just got back, any updates? It's a right saga ain't it?
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Just got back, any updates? It's a right saga ain't it?
Rumours of ole meeting his bosses tonight and a press conference later - not sure if its been confirmed though!
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Exactly. Rumours. Nothing concrete, just unsubstantiated rumours. Similar to yesterday.
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To sum up:
OGS and his wife was collected by Aker's jet plane flying to Gardermoen. Around 1800 Norwegian time they were met by Jim Solbakken, OGS' friend and agent, which took them by car to Røkke's house in Asker. Supposedly this is primarliy going to be a friendly dinner with both Røkke's and OGS' wives present. According to Atle Kigen, Aker's communication director, Jim Solbakken will not be present at the dinner itself.
Rumors speaks about Faulkner being in Oslo as well as a PC later in the evening, but these are not corfirmed as I can see. What is confirmed is Molde saying they haven't had an official inquiry from AV.
Think I'm logging off to see Starship Troopers or play Rollercoaster Tycoon or something.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
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Maybe it's a car keys on the table, spin the bottle kind of night? You know these Scandic types, dirty bastards.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
Is she wearing too many clothes for the weather?
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
Is she wearing too many clothes for the weather?
Yes, what else would I have meant?
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Cheers, in other words not a lot, I wanna change my name! Annoying!
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
Not me. My nickname remains constant and unchanging. Only changed my location and signature to Norwegian.
Whoever our manager is, from whatever nation of the world, my H & V nickname which identifies me, my loyalties and says what I stand for - is and will always remain essentially and proudly English........Oh.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
Having been to Norway a couple of times, I can say that most of the girls are that hot...I love Norway.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
Having been to Norway a couple of times, I can say that most of the girls are that hot...I love Norway.
I must visit there sometime, to wear my warmest coat of course.
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Faulkner isn't in Oslo.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
It might be Julie Strømsvåg, TV 2 sports anchor. She's allright. Though NRK's Anne Rimmen is hotter, imo.
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Damon said it was the Swedes were where it's at.
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OGS and his wife was collected by Aker's jet plane flying to Gardermoen. Around 1800 Norwegian time they were met by Jim Solbakken, OGS' friend and agent, which took them by car to Røkke's house in Asker. Supposedly this is primarliy going to be a friendly dinner with both Røkke's and OGS' wives present. According to Atle Kigen, Aker's communication director, Jim Solbakken will not be present at the dinner itself.
I guess if they are at dinner right now, we wont get news about what they have eaten for an hour or two at least.
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The new one, I reckon is N85DN - think it was replaced sometime in the latter part of last year. I'm not exactly sure what happened to N85CL though, it could still be used somewhere along the line. Although the photos I've seen from Norway look like N85DN to me...
Randy would love me to be his pilot... he just doesn't know it yet!!
Chris.
You are correct that the Dassault Falcon 7X which Randy Lerner uses is registered N85DN, the owner is Exile Transportation Co LLC, Cleveland, Ohio. However, this is actually the same aircraft as N85CL, construction number 130 and built in 2001, and was reregistered as N85DN in the Autumn of last year, with the ownership of the aircraft passing from Cleveland Browns Transportation on 26th September, 2011.
The aircraft landed at BHX last Wednesday, 16th May at 07.35 hrs and departed at 19.11 hrs. It landed again last Friday at 11.16 hrs and departed at 15.17 hrs. I am not aware that it has landed there since.
Brian.
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Faulkner isn't in Oslo.
You've said this a couple of times Dave - do you know where he is...or more importantly what he's working on ?
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Chris.
You are correct that the Dassault Falcon 7X which Randy Lerner uses is registered N85DN, the owner is Exile Transportation Co LLC, Cleveland, Ohio. However, this is actually the same aircraft as N85CL, construction number 130 and built in 2001, and was reregistered as N85DN in the Autumn of last year, with the ownership of the aircraft passing from Cleveland Browns Transportation on 26th September, 2011.
Brian.
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You silver-tongued lotharios get me every time. I'm off for a posh wank.
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To sum up:
OGS and his wife was collected by Aker's jet plane flying to Gardermoen. Around 1800 Norwegian time they were met by Jim Solbakken, OGS' friend and agent, which took them by car to Røkke's house in Asker. Supposedly this is primarliy going to be a friendly dinner with both Røkke's and OGS' wives present. According to Atle Kigen, Aker's communication director, Jim Solbakken will not be present at the dinner itself.
Rumors speaks about Faulkner being in Oslo as well as a PC later in the evening, but these are not corfirmed as I can see. What is confirmed is Molde saying they haven't had an official inquiry from AV.
Think I'm logging off to see Starship Troopers or play Rollercoaster Tycoon or something.
Hey don't let my bosses know I'm in Norway, they think I'm working nights tonight!
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
It might be Julie Strømsvåg, TV 2 sports anchor. She's allright. Though NRK's Anne Rimmen is hotter, imo.
I googled that name but I don't think it was her. Either way, compliments to your country!
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http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=http://www.budstikka.no/sport/solskjer-pa-snarvisitt-i-rokkes-hus-i-asker-1.7363462&ei=Zty7T7_iEcyn8gOB1tTBCg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CFYQ7gEwAQ&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkjell%2Binge%2Br%25C3%25B8kke%2Bhus%2Basker%26hl%3Den%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D643%26prmd%3Dimvnso
The AP reports that on Tuesday night that Molde boss Ole Gunnar Solskjaer and his wife Silje in place of Kjell Inge Røkke home on Lung Kong in Asker.
There, the two together with Bjorn Rune Gjelsten have a chat about the situation that has arisen as a result of Solskjaer flirtation with Premier League club Aston Villa. Jim Solbakken, will also participate in the meeting.
Solskjaer relieved with a private jet as Aker disposal from Kristiansund at 15.30 o'clock. Little by at 18 he will have arrived Kong Lung. It is believed that Solskjaer only on a short visit as he will lead Molde training tomorrow morning.
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
In which case can we all just follow Molde instead? We could rename the site Herrings and Vikings.
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Brilliant
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
Having been to Norway a couple of times, I can say that most of the girls are that hot...I love Norway.
I must visit there sometime, to wear my warmest coat of course.
;)
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
In which case can we all just follow Molde instead? We could rename the site Herrings and Vikings.
Herrings and Vikings ! Latest Edition !
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Damon said it was the Swedes were where it's at.
I think it's a safe bet anywhere in Scandinavia...
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
In which case can we all just follow Molde instead? We could rename the site Herrings and Vikings.
Herrings and Vikings ! Latest Edition !
Don't even think about it, Mr W will charge norweigan prices.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
It might be Julie Strømsvåg, TV 2 sports anchor. She's allright. Though NRK's Anne Rimmen is hotter, imo.
Having made use of that wonderful invention Google, Julie most definitely should be snapped up for Midlands Today.
(http://image.unwire.com/IP/ss/www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2009/07/06/1246891649387_244.jpg)
You can keep Anne though!
(http://www.kjendislekkasjen.no/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/anne-rimmen-naken.jpg)
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
In which case can we all just follow Molde instead? We could rename the site Herrings and Vikings.
Marvelous.
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Very hot Norwegian lady on sky sports right now discussing this matter.
It might be Julie Strømsvåg, TV 2 sports anchor. She's allright. Though NRK's Anne Rimmen is hotter, imo.
Having made use of that wonderful invention Google, Julie most definitely should be snapped up for Midlands Today.
(http://image.unwire.com/IP/ss/www1.vg.no/uploaded/image/bilderigg/2009/07/06/1246891649387_244.jpg)
You can keep Anne though!
(http://www.kjendislekkasjen.no/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/anne-rimmen-naken.jpg)
The tits on Anne aren't bad though ...
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Herrings ånd Vikings...with an årticle about the Nørse Stånd.
(Love those little circles over the 'a's.)
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The new one, I reckon is N85DN - think it was replaced sometime in the latter part of last year. I'm not exactly sure what happened to N85CL though, it could still be used somewhere along the line. Although the photos I've seen from Norway look like N85DN to me...
Randy would love me to be his pilot... he just doesn't know it yet!!
Chris.
You are correct that the Dassault Falcon 7X which Randy Lerner uses is registered N85DN, the owner is Exile Transportation Co LLC, Cleveland, Ohio. However, this is actually the same aircraft as N85CL, construction number 130 and built in 2001, and was reregistered as N85DN in the Autumn of last year, with the ownership of the aircraft passing from Cleveland Browns Transportation on 26th September, 2011.
The aircraft landed at BHX last Wednesday, 16th May at 07.35 hrs and departed at 19.11 hrs. It landed again last Friday at 11.16 hrs and departed at 15.17 hrs. I am not aware that it has landed there since.
Brian.
Sorry to be an anorak.
I think you will find they are two different planes.
N85CL was a Falcon 900, replaced sometime last year by N85DN, which is a Falcon 7X.
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Show off. (Lou'zae0)
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My bike is a Falcon.
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I'm normally not that bothered about these things, but I love the fact that our chairman has an awesome plane. And changes it for a new one when the ashtrays get full.
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If he doesn't sign, we're going to look a right bunch of tits with these stupid Scandic names.
In which case can we all just follow Molde instead? We could rename the site Herrings and Vikings.
Herrings and Vikings ! Latest Edition !
Don't even think about it, Mr W will charge norweigan prices.
Have you got change for a 1000 Krone note ?
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If Randy or his associates see these threads he will think we're a bunch of stalkers and will start worrying that he can't take a dump without us finding out what he had for his previous meal.
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Show off. (Lou'zae0)
Yøu're just jeåløus. Or should that be jælous?
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Show off. (Lou'zae0)
About the only thing I could cut and paeste from Gompy's post!
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Chicken madras. Pilau rice. Naan bread. Mint sauce. Onion salad. Shish kebab.
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Bølløx you smårt ærse 8)
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I'm normally not that bothered about these things, but I love the fact that our chairman has an awesome plane. And changes it for a new one when the ashtrays get full.
He cant put an AV1 registration plate on the nose and tail though can he !
(http://www.regtransfers.co.uk/images/stories/av1.jpg)
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Bølløx you smårt ærse 8)
Me ågåin or Legiøn?
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PWS, I think.
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AVFCMysteryman on twitter says:
All is OK OGS is still on way all the dull stuff being sorted now #Dontpanic :)
link (https://twitter.com/#!/AvfcMysteryman)
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No but he could park the plane on the runway and stand in front of it for a photo then email it to Cackbeard with the heading "You can stick your chopper up your arse."
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PWS, I think.
As he called someone smart I think it's pretty obvious he meant me.
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Correct Legion.
I would never be so rude to a lady.
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-arse...
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-arse...
Exactly. I'm smart, minus the arse.
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Have you got a smackheads arse then PWS?
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PWS, I think.
As he called someone smart I think it's pretty obvious he meant me.
You're the obvious choice to appreciate this guide to speaking norwegian, then!
I hope you'll cascade to the rest of us. :)
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authentically greasy Norwegian hair, there.
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I'll stick to speaking some Swedish thanks 8)
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Have you got a smackheads arse then PWS?
As if i'm answering that to help you with your fantasies!
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-arse...
Exactly. I'm smart, minus the arse.
It's a hyphen.
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-arse...
Exactly. I'm smart, minus the arse.
It's a hyphen.
No use claiming that after I have established it as a minus.
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The use of that symbol as a minus would have necessitated a space inserted either side of it. No spaces, therefore it's a hyphen.
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We could rename the site Herrings and Vikings.
Brilliant Risso.
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The use of that symbol as a minus would have necessitated a space inserted either side of it. No spaces, therefore it's a hyphen.
Oh ffs can we get back to plane spotting.
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I must say the standard of humour on this site is superb. Long may it continue.
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Whatever floats your boat.
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The use of that symbol as a minus would have necessitated a space inserted either side of it. No spaces, therefore it's a hyphen.
Not when I choose to assume it was one of your usual typo's.
Now look at my username and cry!
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I never make typographical errors.
Sobs.
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Faulkner is in Azerbeijan for the Eurovision Song Contest.
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Your tiers r like neckta 2 me.
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Do you wish for an apostrophe to be inserted somewhere?
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Do you wish for an apostrophe to be inserted somewhere?
Yes I do. Bend over and i'll put it there.
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Just think how many people are going to see pages of extra posts on this thread, get all excited, only to find it was us lot talking even more crap than usual.
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Punctuation warriors. Comma have a go, if you think you're hard enough
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Damon is right. Full. Fucking. Stop.
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Well it's currently more interesting than the will he / won't he OGS saga and ITK b*ll*cks. In my sad little world, anyway.
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Punctuation warriors. Comma have a go, if you think you're hard enough
Period!
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We'd better behave. Legion has confirmed he's got the painters in.
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If he signs will the Holte give a rousing rendition of "Leaving on a jet plane" at the first home game of the season?
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There's got to be something stuck here about colonic irrigation
Dam. One reply too late... 8)
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Punctuation warriors. Comma have a go, if you think you're hard enough
Th 'asterisk I might have to take
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Punctuation warriors. Comma have a go, if you think you're hard enough
Is that comma necessary?
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You guys are like the paparazzi outside a celebrities house in the cold when nothing is going on.
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Preben Walle @Ohpebbles
Just had a text from a journo mate of mine (same one who broke Ole and Eikrem to Molde) "Ole has been offered the Villa-job. More soon"
Retweeted by phil baker
Preben Walle @Ohpebbles
Ole will, apparently, take charge at Villa Park as of June 1st if he accepts (which he will). #AVFC
Retweeted by Peter Stempel
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Punctuation warriors. Comma have a go, if you think you're hard enough
"Is that comma necessary?"
Dis am big way to shun what Damon said.
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Lambert is out to 7-1 with William Hill, who are the most miserly of bookies. Ole remains 1/4 odds on. Come on William give us a break. maybe Paddy Power will have better odds on our Ole?
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Twitter awash with Norway press saying it has been offered.
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Word is he'll take charge of Molde's last two games before the break, and join us on June 1st. As stated above, Norwegian Tweeters saying it's all over the media over there.
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Solskjaer "We will soon announce what the future holds, you will know soon enough".... not giving much away still.
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Peter Stempel @PeterStempel
OGS: "I won't answer hypothetical questions. We'll handle that later. We'll soon know what the future holds. We'll know soon enough." #AVFC
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Solskjær "We will soon announce what the future holds, you will know soon enough".... not giving much away still.
If he was staying he would have just said so in the press conference. Or interview. Whatever, you get the gist.
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I'm watching this. We'd cruise Eurovision and the PL if we had him!
http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2012/05/21/tom-jones-sings-sloop-john-b-1974/
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He's too bloody enigmatic, I know that much.
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You guys are like the paparazzi outside a celebrities house in the cold when nothing is going on.
can i quote you on that ? and were you and Princess Di just friends :P
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Rumours everywhere OGS been offered job & has accepted
I'm not sure exactly why but I feel we have struck oil here by appointing OGS
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What a difference a week makes.
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Kendrick has tweeted that he has pulled out and there is a story on the Mail website.
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Apparently according to Kendrick he has said no.... Oh dear.
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And ogs in 3/1 on betfair now
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http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/05/22/exclusive-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-out-of-running-to-be-next-aston-villa-manager-97319-31025943/
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Kendrick has tweeted that he has pulled out and there is a story on the Mail website.
What !!
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http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/05/22/exclusive-ole-gunnar-Solskjær-out-of-running-to-be-next-aston-villa-manager-97319-31025943/
Its been taken down. This is weird.
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OLE Gunnar Solskjaer has pulled out of the running to be Aston Villas next manager, the Birmingham Mail understands.
The 39-year-old Norwegian was the bookies clear favourite to succeed sacked Alex McLeish, but he has opted to stay at Molde for personal reasons.
Solskjaer spoke to Villa chairman Randy Lerner and chief excecutive Paul Faulkner following a whirlwind trip to Birmingham last Friday.
But after meeting his Molde bosses for discussions in Oslo this afternoon, Solskjaer informed Villa that he no longer wants to be considered for their vacancy.
The former Manchester United striker only returned to his native country in 2010 and is believed to be reluctant to uproot his wife and three young children with a move back to England.
Villa have insisted all along that Solskjaer was one of a number of contenders under consideration, rather than their first choice for the job, and they are believed to be relaxed about the situation.
More to follow in tomorrows Birmingham Mail
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Fuck
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Pulled out? WTF?
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All off according to the mail website:-
http://tinyurl.com/dxgdxby (http://tinyurl.com/dxgdxby)
I guess it is going to be Lambert then.
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http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories/2012/05/22/exclusive-ole-gunnar-Solskjær-out-of-running-to-be-next-aston-villa-manager-97319-31025943/
Its been taken down. This is weird.
I think it's this sites word filter of his name that affects that link.
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Bollocks that link doesnt work !
Norwegians are just saying he has finished his dinner !
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dsolskjaer%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DX%26tbo%3D1%26tbas%3D0%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D643%26tbs%3Dqdr:h%26prmd%3Dimvnsfd&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&sl=no&u=http://www.tk.no/sporten/article6072256.ece&usg=ALkJrhiTOjNDikNMlNydgG6ZfyZ9ugtOQg
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Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
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Oh dear. I can't believe this.
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Oh FFS.
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Oh FFS
Pisser
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Can someone change my name to Ole Gunnar twatface?
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Shit the bed. Gutted if it's true.
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Oh FFS
Pisser
He was offered a contract as well according to this guy: https://twitter.com/#!/Ohpebbles
This could make it very difficult to attract someone now.
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Holy Fuck - I cannot believe this.
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Oh bollocks. I'm going to go and slit my wrists while listening to Radiohead.
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Time to worry
Next lambert says no then we are into the realms of Bruce Curbishley and McCarthy
Fuck it fuck it fuck it
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Dave W, do you know for a fact that we've not spoken to Lambert? Apologies if you've already answered that one but I don't want to wade through the rest of the thread and it seems pertinent now...
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Bollocks
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What a difference a week makes.
What a difference a few posts make....
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It's true this time- ole will NOT be aston villa manager!
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Can anyone who starts whining about how terrible we are that we can't attract a manager from Norway please fuck off.
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Gutted.
I have no idea who i want now. All other candidates bore me.
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I presume kendrick has it right. Family reasons?
There isn't another candidate that would excite me like he would have, with the possible exception of Rodgers who I don't think we'll get.
I'd have thought lambert is the leading contender though wasn't there a suggestion he's nit on the list?
I do hope this isn't another example of us being cack handed in our approach. Let's hope they've got something good up their sleeve . . .
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Do we know if he was even offered the job...?
A shame if true but far from a disaster...would have been a gamble, all be it an excting one.
Lambert would still be good imo.
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What is beginning to concern me is why he turned it down? Was it the money he'd have to spend? Was it just a lifestyle choice?
Hoping it wasn't the former.
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Dave W, do you know for a fact that we've not spoken to Lambert? Apologies if you've already answered that one but I don't want to wade through the rest of the thread and it seems pertinent now...
As far as I've been told we haven't.
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The mods are gonna be busy with all these name changes.
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It's true this time- ole will NOT be aston villa manager!
Oh, but you told us that it was definite that he would.
*rolls eyes*
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We are terrible not being able to attract a manager from Norway
He's 14/1 on now
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back to square one chaps. We'd have been better never finding out in hindsight. The thing is, we'll end up with Lambert or even Martinez, both completely solid choices and it will be a bit flat after all of this. Shame because both, pre-OGS knowledge would have been perfectly acceptable appointments, and still will be.
BALLS!!!!!!
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No chance. You're all stuck with them.
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SSN reporting it now so it must be true.
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I'm certain it was nothing to do with his wife. His boss has waved a load of cash under his nose and told him he can go next time.
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Roll the dice again eastie
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http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/artikkel.php?artid=10070418
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We are terrible not being able to attract a manager from Norway
He's 14/1 on now
Like I said, fuck off. This is not the time.
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Dave W, do you know for a fact that we've not spoken to Lambert? Apologies if you've already answered that one but I don't want to wade through the rest of the thread and it seems pertinent now...
As far as I've been told we haven't.
Cheers.
Shit. Hope we have a plan B...
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It's true this time- ole will NOT be aston villa manager!
Oh, but you told us that it was definite that he would.
*rolls eyes*
He'll go back to his original ITK claim and say he was right all along about Lambert.
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Well we all look very silly with these name changes.
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Can anyone who starts whining about how terrible we are that we can't attract a manager from Norway please fuck off.
Sending a private jet certainly seems like a terrible mistake now.
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It's true this time- ole will NOT be aston villa manager!
Wow, more ITK after the event. Is your source the Kendrick twitter account?
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where is all this info coming from? Is he or is he not going to be our next manager? Somebody clear this up please.Who said what and is it official?
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It's another Unsworth
Mrs OGS wears the trousers & said No
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It's true this time- ole will NOT be aston villa manager!
Words fail me. Actually, they don't.
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Grayson is 9/2 with sky bet,
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Thank goodness I stayed with my N'Zog username.
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SSN saying no offer was made and is no longer being considered for the job.
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As i said at the start if we offered it only shows a further lack of investment from RL as he would have been expected, more that Mclesish to a point, to bring on more youngsters with his youth team experience and have little money to spend.
We are not going to be a viable proposition to many managers working under RL rules of the game .
Remember last Summer 16 squad players left and only 4 in, and 1 of those was a panic buy as we had 3 previous winger leave.
Who's going to want to work under those constraints ?
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Oh fucking great big arse biscuits.
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Gutted guys! Oh well if we get Lambert, Martinez or Poyet I'd still be happy compared to what we had last season. Remember how bad we were and any of these guys can make us better...
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SSN saying no offer was made and is no longer being considered for the job.
Others claim he was made an offer and decided to stay.
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eastie - mate, do yourself a favour and never claim ITK on anything ever again. You are looking a complete plonker right now.
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Dalgleish it is then.
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Well, I never liked the babyfaced twonk anyway.
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A guy on twitter says a deal was definitely offered and he even knows details of it, but after the meeting with Rokke, they pulled out of discussions with us.
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Grayson would be a travesty.
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SSN saying no offer was made and is no longer being considered for the job.
Why the fuck not?
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eastie - mate, do yourself a favour and never claim ITK on anything ever again. You are looking a complete plonker right now.
Far worse.
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If its not lambert or Martinez, I'm not sure who it would be really?
Kevin mac??
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Can't help but feel that Lerner might reconsider his position now though? Bearing in mind that OGS was the firm favourite amongst Villa fans, surely the vast majority are going to think that this is just another series of letdowns?
I've just got that feeling at the moment that you get when your girlfriend has just dumped you... As in the "It's not you, it's me" bollocks. Feels like we've been dumped a bit...
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Whatever went on, he's decided to stay small time. Shame for him as we now know he's not up to the job.
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Gutted
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eastie - mate, do yourself a favour and never claim ITK on anything ever again. You are looking a complete plonker right now.
Far worse.
Indeed.
Would some Mod change my name back to Fergal please
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Right I said yesterday I believed it would be lambert after being told by someone very itk we had spoken with him, I then heard from the same person it was going to be unlikely to be lambert and it would be ole- now ole has pulled out will we go back to lambert or will he pull out too?
Who knows what will happen now- one thing for sure lambert was not the 1st choice but I hope he gets the job.
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SSN saying no offer was made and is no longer being considered for the job.
Somebody just posted similar on twitter, with the information coming from Doogan, Villa press officer.
Others claim he was made an offer and decided to stay.
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Ok it's twitter but this is what's being said.
There you go. Ole WON'T become Aston Villa's next manager, but he WAS offered a deal. After talks with Røkke and his agent, they pulled out.
I took it for granted that Ole would accept it when he was offered that deal. Mistake on my part, I guess, but it seemed an easy decision..
Røkke has, most definitely, promised Ole a shitload of money to bring in new players before the Champions League qualification starts.
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If its not lambert or Martinez, I'm not sure who it would be really?
Kevin mac??
Kevin Mac would be the ultimate "nothing changes, as you were" appointment we could make.
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He's too bloody enigmatic, I know that much.
You can say that again!
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well thats good news. Hopefully we can look for a manager with a track record now
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So Solskjaer's not going to happen now afterall. I'm not interested in the whys or wherefores. Its done, get over it and move on to the next targets.
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Right I said yesterday I believed it would be lambert after being told by someone very itk we had spoken with him, I then heard from the same person it was going to be unlikely to be lambert and it would be ole- now ole has pulled out will we go back to lambert or will he pull out too?
Who knows what will happen now- one thing for sure lambert was not the 1st choice but I hope he gets the job.
So basically you know the square root of fuck all and so does your source?
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So he strung us along, got us to actually offer it to him and still said no. Ego boost.
Disappointed.
It's going to be difficult to get the momentum back now. Out of work manager or a lower league guy like Grayson?
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
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can i go back to Holy Trinity please and never let me change it again EVER!!!
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Oh my.
Seems Røkke is quite the persuasive fella.
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The change of heart by solksjaer has taken everyone by surprise including randy!
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Lambert won't come IMHO nor Martinez (thank god)
We may aswell let KMac have a go
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Right I said yesterday I believed it would be lambert after being told by someone very itk we had spoken with him, I then heard from the same person it was going to be unlikely to be lambert and it would be ole- now ole has pulled out will we go back to lambert or will he pull out too?
Who knows what will happen now- one thing for sure lambert was not the 1st choice but I hope he gets the job.
Clueless.
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If its k mac I'll be furious, feel let down by all his comments about wanting the job you broke my heart Solskjaer
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Much as I hate to admit it, we are Liverpool. Both former beauties, both thinking batting the eyelashes will be enough...both being ignored by one-season wonders.
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Family reasons sounds strange, though.
Surely they'd have been there the whole time and not just surfaced after a meal with Rokke?
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If it's family reasons we can't moan too much (but we will).
However: All the noises coming out of Norway were if he was offered the Villa job, he'd take it. Didn't his very own quotes to that newspaper say as much? But that it was all hypothetical, as he hadn't received an offer.
Now -when it appears we have actually offered him the gig, he says no. Setting aside my natural Villa bias, that is almost funny.
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At least Liverpool look just as confused as us
I hope the brief isnt going to be, "play the kids, just get more out of them"
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Family reasons, supposedly.
Potential bullet dodged, potential chance missed. Could have been either.
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No gloating please. Even if you think you were proved right. This is a horrible knockback.
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Right I said yesterday I believed it would be lambert after being told by someone very itk we had spoken with him, I then heard from the same person it was going to be unlikely to be lambert and it would be ole- now ole has pulled out will we go back to lambert or will he pull out too?
Who knows what will happen now- one thing for sure lambert was not the 1st choice but I hope he gets the job.
words fail me...
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Not good at all.
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i am not sure why i am so depressed :-\
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My £10 on Di Matteo at 14/1 is looking like the hottest ticket in town right now. I think I'll get myself some nice Jimmy Choo's.
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Let's not lose sight of the fact that even though it appears OGS is staying put, we can still look forward to the new season without Mctwat at the helm.
That is still cause for celebration,
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Right I said yesterday I believed it would be lambert after being told by someone very itk we had spoken with him, I then heard from the same person it was going to be unlikely to be lambert and it would be ole- now ole has pulled out will we go back to lambert or will he pull out too?
Who knows what will happen now- one thing for sure lambert was not the 1st choice but I hope he gets the job.
words fail me...
Totally full of it.
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well thats good news. Hopefully we can look for a manager with a track record now
So who then,with a track record give us a clue. All the same uninspiring twats that we were linked to last season? Fuck it. We could have got Ole if we really wanted him,whats next, the list will go on and on and we wll get the cheap "i can turn this club around" twat.
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Quick, please, get rid of that 'o' with the slash through it from the end of my name. Drat and double drat.
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If OGS has said no, and Lambert wasn't interested, where on earth would we look?
Rodgers isn't going to leave Swansea, Martinez will go to Liverpool if offered, so who does that leave us with?
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I can see it being Simon Grayson. There's been no approach made for Lambert according to some ITK's on this site, not sure who else there is out there.
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I've got money on Klinsmann ;D
Not that he'll come either
Just thought I'd gloat
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If OGS has said no, and Lambert wasn't interested, where on earth would we look?
Rodgers isn't going to leave Swansea, Martinez will go to Liverpool if offered, so who does that leave us with?
Joe Kinnear?
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If OGS has said no, and Lambert wasn't interested, where on earth would we look?
Rodgers isn't going to leave Swansea, Martinez will go to Liverpool if offered, so who does that leave us with?
Di Matteo I tells ya
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Ok, digested it and it occurs to me Randy isn't promising to put his hands in his pockets very much. It looks bleak.
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No gloating please. Even if you think you were proved right. This is a horrible knockback.
horrible knockback? Don't be daft. He's done nowt, next season he'll have done nowt.
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If OGS has said no, and Lambert wasn't interested, where on earth would we look?
Rodgers isn't going to leave Swansea, Martinez will go to Liverpool if offered, so who does that leave us with?
Domingos paciencias?
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/22/domingos-paciencia-interested-in-aston-villa-managers-job/?
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If OGS has said no, and Lambert wasn't interested, where on earth would we look?
Rodgers isn't going to leave Swansea, Martinez will go to Liverpool if offered, so who does that leave us with?
Joe Kinnear?
Bollox
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Hopefully this really is about his family and not about the sort of funding Randy has told him he'd get (ie not a lot). That really would drop us in the shit.
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Oh my.
Seems Røkke is quite the persuasive fella.
Also, quite astute by all accounts - any chance he could by the Villa
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Rafa Benitez?
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"Solskjaer is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
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He has a foreign name. Sign him up.
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Hughton....
Wouldn't it be funny to nick him off Blose and Ollbeyun all in one swoop.
*runs for cover*
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I can see it being Simon Grayson. There's been no approach made for Lambert according to some ITK's on this site, not sure who else there is out there.
But were they the same ITK's that said OGS was as good as here?
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Bugger it
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Sad time again for us Villains. A managerial nobody turns us down. I really do hope Randy and co have a plan otherwise it's going to just like the last two manager chases embarrassing.
I didn't want him but still gutted that he has turned us down.
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Why did we let ourselves get carried away?
Back down to earth with a crash when we should be just glad to have anybody other than McLeish.
I'm hoping we get Lambert now. Neither RDM or Martinez enthuse me. RDM showing up at Villa Park after a season of struggle would be a very different scenario to RDM showing up at an underachieving Chelsea squad he was intimately acquainted with and just needed to be the anti-AVB to succeed.
I hope we aren't blinded by his CL win with a Chelsea squad full of egos that just wanted to do it their way and not the AVB way.
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Well until this is properly confirmed there's always the chance somethings been lost in translation... but that appears doubtful.
Trying to put a positive spin on things, how about we take Lambert on a three year deal and see how that goes. If hes successful we're happy. If he's not, we go back for Ole (assuming he has continued to progress in the right way) safe in the knowledge he's gained a few more years experience.
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No way will it be Grayson
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What a kick in the stones that is.
Right,where is the jet off to now ?
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Sad time again for us Villains. A managerial nobody turns us down. I really do hope Randy and co have a plan otherwise it's going to just like the last two manager chases embarrassing.
I didn't want him but still gutted that he has turned us down.
You didn't want him, but you're still gutted he has turned us down?
Great logic there.
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My original first choice was Lambert but i really warmed to the idea of Solskjaer coming here so i'm a little disapointed. Nice idea from Randy and fair play to him for that.
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Whoever comes in will know they're our second/third choice, no matter what the club say. It's madness but I didn't want him at first but after reading up about him and his philosophy, I was excited about him getting the job. What a shame.
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Simon Grayson ? No fucking thanks !
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Ok, digested it and it occurs to me Randy isn't promising to put his hands in his pockets very much. It looks bleak.
Total guesswork on your part though
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I think they know already lambert will say no
Hence no approach to save embarrament
This is where the board must not panic
Stay cool, take a few days, regroup
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What a kick in the stones that is.
Right,where is the jet off to now ?
Norwich International
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I can see it being Simon Grayson. There's been no approach made for Lambert according to some ITK's on this site, not sure who else there is out there.
But were they the same ITK's that said OGS was as good as here?
Simon fucking Grayson! Do us a favour and fuck off! Couldn't even sort Leeds out. Bottom of the barrel ladies and gents.
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"Solskjær is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
Due to his family? Bollox. Over the last 3/4 days he has been saying if they make an offer I will take the job!
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Nobody expected solksjaer to have a change of heart - randy included.
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What a kick in the stones that is.
Right,where is the jet off to now ?
Bordesley Ringway.
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
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OGS is 28/1 on Sky bet, but they wont let you bet on it as its suspended, only on him though
EDIT, its 33/1 now, and you can bet on it, just has a £10,
well you never know !
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I just hope they don't panic like they did last year after the Martinez thing.
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Well until this is properly confirmed there's always the chance somethings been lost in translation... but that appears doubtful.
Trying to put a positive spin on things, how about we take Lambert on a three year deal and see how that goes. If hes successful we're happy. If he's not, we go back for Ole (assuming he has continued to progress in the right way) safe in the knowledge he's gained a few more years experience.
Lets not kid ourselves. OGS strung us along. If there's another 'lost in translation' style about turn I won't be too impressed. How much incompetence would it actually take for the media to have (again) translated a 'yes' as 'no'?
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Ive just finished watching The History of Aston Villa and was feeling rather elated. Then I switch on to Sky Sports and see this news. I have made it clear I wanted Lambert all along. But if he isnt interested then who the hell do we get.
I think there is a lot going on and Randy/Faulkner could be shown in a poor light...again.
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He doesn't want to come, so fuck him. I had a marginal preference for Lambert so hopefully we will go for him now.
Can I make a long-awaited return to being TheSandman s'il vous plait? I'll sit in wait to see who we actually get this time. :(
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Well until this is properly confirmed there's always the chance somethings been lost in translation... but that appears doubtful.
Trying to put a positive spin on things, how about we take Lambert on a three year deal and see how that goes. If hes successful we're happy. If he's not, we go back for Ole (assuming he has continued to progress in the right way) safe in the knowledge he's gained a few more years experience.
Lets nod kid ourselves. OGS strung us along. If there's another 'lost in translation' style about turn I won't be too impressed. How much incompetence would it actually take for the media to have (again) translated a 'yes' as 'no'?
The bloke who said it is from Belfast.
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Very disappointing if true especially as he waited till after Jose had signed his new contract. :(
If not OGS, then Lambert for me. No thanks to RDM.
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Oh well, never wanted him anyway, too inexperienced, only wanted the Man U job anyway, Norwegian league is shite, can you hear me Winston Churchill?
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"Solskjær is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
Due to his family? Bollox. Over the last 3/4 days he has been saying if they make an offer I will take the job!
Or maybe his family thought it over for a few days and decided not to move? I'm sure most wouldn't make a snap a decision of moving to another country. Especially as I believe he has 3 kids?
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Seems like the sort of thing Doug would do. Act as though we're doing our utmost before it fizzles out, watch out for a totally underwhelming managerial appointment by Lerner.
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Get any old German / Portuguese / Spanish bloke in. None of the English merry-go-rounders for the love of god.
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Pelty said at the time don't get too focused on one candidate or you may get disappointed. Wise words.... My source reckoned they just sounded him out at first but then got panicked by the reaction when the news leaked so went for him. Not a clever way to go about choosing a manager imo
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Oh my.
Seems Røkke is quite the persuasive fella.
Also, quite astute by all accounts - any chance he could by the Villa
Same bloke who franchised out Wimbledon? No thanks.
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Sad time again for us Villains. A managerial nobody turns us down. I really do hope Randy and co have a plan otherwise it's going to just like the last two manager chases embarrassing.
I didn't want him but still gutted that he has turned us down.
You didn't want him, but you're still gutted he has turned us down?
Great logic there.
Yes gutted from a club point of view that a nothing of a manager turns us down. It's a matter of pride and he has hurt me.
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"Solskjær is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
Due to his family? Bollox. Over the last 3/4 days he has been saying if they make an offer I will take the job!
I'm a tad sceptical of that too. He's only just discussed it with his folks?
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
In that case, fair play to the bloke. Nowhere in Birmingham looks like his home town and certainly his kids would not be as safe. If that is the reason then we should have massive respect for Ole and his family.
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Sad time again for us Villains. A managerial nobody turns us down. I really do hope Randy and co have a plan otherwise it's going to just like the last two manager chases embarrassing.
I didn't want him but still gutted that he has turned us down.
You didn't want him, but you're still gutted he has turned us down?
Great logic there.
Yes gutted from a club point of view that a nothing of a manager turns us down. It's a matter of pride and he has hurt me.
And you wouldn't put your family ahead of the Villa?
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Feck me we've got more sources than an HP factory on here..and none of them any good. ;D
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
Sorry but it's about our current owner and chief exec being unable to deal with modern day football. They really are useless.
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"Solskjær is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
Due to his family? Bollox. Over the last 3/4 days he has been saying if they make an offer I will take the job!
I'm a tad sceptical of that too. He's only just discussed it with his folks?
You expect his wife and 3 kids to make a snap decision over their futures? Or do you expect them to think and talk about it for a few days?
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After all that happened that's absolutely heartbreaking... You just know someone else is going to get him in a couple of years time and he'll go on to do brilliantly, just to rub salt in the wound. It's so annoying that the whole thing blew up as it really caught peoples imagination and it's going to be really hard to find a candidate to top him. It's very annoying as candidates we'd have been delighted with last week suddenly look a bit drab in comparison. To be honest, I don't know who we should go for now... Maybe Rodgers to try and tap the potential aspect again, although I actually fear he'd be a bigger risk than OGS.
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"Solskjær is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
Due to his family? Bollox. Over the last 3/4 days he has been saying if they make an offer I will take the job!
I'm a tad sceptical of that too. He's only just discussed it with his folks?
People change their mind. BFR did it twice and he only lived in Barnt Green.
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
Sorry but it's about our current owner and chief exec being unable to deal with modern day football. They really are useless.
That they may be but then they did manage to think of him in the first place. Anyway, we've no idea what has really happened and why just yet....
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What a bloody fiasco eh ?
I have spent the last 4 days camped on here. Google searching the word Solskjaer for anything entered each hour. Ive been looking at Norwegian- English translations and even watched a fair chunk of the Molde game on a link the other day. I scoured YouTube for clips of that Ekrim bloke, finishing up looking at Man U reserves from 2010. Today I was even looking skyward to try and spot Falcon 7X private jets, which I am now fully coversant with the operational workings of.
Well at least I didn't change my nickname. No fucker will ever be able to turn round to me and say they saw a diagonal line through an o in my name !
Well I blame you lot. I said all along we should have stuck with Mcleish !
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Poyet or Klinsmann please
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
Sorry but it's about our current owner and chief exec being unable to deal with modern day football. They really are useless.
And how do you come to that conclusion?
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I hope there won't be too much criticism of OGS's decision, he won't have taken it lightly I'm sure. Current employers can be persuasive when they don't want to lose you. Its all too easy to use the 'better the devil you know' , 'you're still young, there will be other opportunities' and 'think of your family' cards.
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"Solskjær is no longer an option for Villa. He said no, due to his family" -Bryan Doogan, Aston Villa media director.
Due to his family? Bollox. Over the last 3/4 days he has been saying if they make an offer I will take the job!
I'm a tad sceptical of that too. He's only just discussed it with his folks?
A few weeks would be good, to make sure they are together as a unit. If the family is not happy then neither will Ole be.
You expect his wife and 3 kids to make a snap decision over their futures? Or do you expect them to think and talk about it for a few days?
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After all that happened that's absolutely heartbreaking...
Get a grip, man. It isn't heartbreaking. It is disappointing, yes, but keep it in perspective.
One thing I do think, though, is that the club will have been aware of the positive reaction to OGS and the degree to which it was because it was left-field thinking, promising root and branch change.
They're now in a situation where the man our fans were singing for on the last day of the season is going to look like a conservative choice.
If we're going for Lambert, then I hope to fuck we get him, because it really doesn't bear thinking where the search will lead if he ruled himself out.
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Bare in mind recent events, is it worth sticking £10 on him now?
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I'm still clinging to the hope that he will have a Ron Atkinson-like change of mind in the next few days and take the job.
If he doesn't, then if we find out that his Uncle Fergie warned him off us because of how we treated Alex's other pet, then i will be very angry!
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shall we just not talk about until we can see a press conference at Villa Park for the love of Macca .....
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Oh fucksocks. Give us a bastard break will ya.
This really is quite deflating and its hard to explain why.
Right, pick yourselves up. Dust yourselves off.
We're not going to let this... oh fuck it, I am gutted. It also makes us look like C U N T S!
Randy, change tac. Go and get van Gaal or somebody like that.
And give him a truck full of nazi war gold to spend on some idiots who are really good at kicking a ball about.
No also ran gobshites please.
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
Sorry but it's about our current owner and chief exec being unable to deal with modern day football. They really are useless.
We don't know the ins and outs. We just have to wait and see. Hopefully it wasn't Randy's vision that was the stumbling block. Lets give the board the benefit of the doubt this time. Club needs to unite behind whoever the eventual appointment is.
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I hope there won't be too much criticism of OGS's decision, he won't have taken it lightly I'm sure. Current employers can be persuasive when they don't want to lose you. Its all too easy to use the 'better the devil you know' , 'you're still young, there will be other opportunities' and 'think of your family' cards.
Absolutely. It's potentially the biggest decision of his life and he's right to turn it down if he isn't absolutely certain.
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Oh well, time to look elsewhere...
In other news, can all these people on H&V with 'ITKs' and 'sources' please give it a rest? Anyone with any real information would not blab it on a forum. Well-connected people gain interesting information because they can be trusted, not because they're gossips.
As you were. And no to any of the merry-go-round losers, by the way. But Lord alone knows who we'll end up with...
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Get a grip, man. It isn't heartbreaking. It is disappointing, yes, but keep it in perspective.
One thing I do think, though, is that the club will have been aware of the positive reaction to OGS and the degree to which it was because it was left-field thinking, promising root and branch change.
They're now in a situation where the man our fans were singing for on the last day of the season is going to look like a conservative choice.
If we're going for Lambert, then I hope to fuck we get him, because it really doesn't bear thinking where the search will lead if he ruled himself out.
Totally agree.
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Nobody's fault that he had a change of heart - I'm hoping we don't get a situation where the new manager is seen as a 2 nd choice option- people will be upset and this change of heart is a huge shock as he had given every indication he wanted the job, I'm hoping lambert will now be offered the post .
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I can see it being Simon Grayson. There's been no approach made for Lambert according to some ITK's on this site, not sure who else there is out there.
But were they the same ITK's that said OGS was as good as here?
Simon fucking Grayson! Do us a favour and fuck off! Couldn't even sort Leeds out. Bottom of the barrel ladies and gents.
Calm down mate, no need for that, I'm not sure who else there is out there. In any case, there hasn't been any other stories about other managers, we may yet be pleasantly surprised. Its only been ticking over because its a huge story in Norway, keeping it in the news.
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I'm still clinging to the hope that he will have a Ron Atkinson-like change of mind in the next few days and take the job.
If he doesn't, then if we find out that his Uncle Fergie warned him off us because of how we treated Alex's other pet, then i will be very angry!
I'm angry with OGS to be honest. I wouldn't want him now. I wouldn't want anybody unless they were 100% committed so he can lie in the bed he has made for himself now.
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I think we all got carried away with the Solksjaer option as it was a genuine way to break the mould which has been set over years at this Club.
For once it looked like we were going to try a radical and exciting way to get the pride back in the place and I'm sure we would all as fans got right behind him .
What they do now is absolutely crucial, if they end up with a similar situation to last season settling for some no hoper who is the only one who accepts the financial constraints then we are fucked as make no mistake next season's Premier League will be even stronger than this season's.
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pretty please mods can i go back to Holy Trinity even my names getting on my tits now
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back down to 28/1 from 33/1, i sugest you get on now, funnier things have happened
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Actually feel sorry for Lerner/Faulkner tonight
They went for an ambitious exciting appointment and they have been shafted I feel
We really need to show some support for the 2 of them now
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
Sorry but it's about our current owner and chief exec being unable to deal with modern day football. They really are useless.
And how do you come to that conclusion?
That is how it seems Dave, if you look at everything Randy and Co have done since they arrived they haven't got a clue about modern day football. From allowing Martin free rein to the last 18 months and their approach to appointing a manager.
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This isn't about money. It's a man putting his family first, nothing more.
Sorry but it's about our current owner and chief exec being unable to deal with modern day football. They really are useless.
And how do you come to that conclusion?
Tell me something they have done right or got a deal done on the footballing side of things?
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Disappointed that OGS spoke about the job being offered that he'd find it hard to turn down, leaked that there was a clause in his contract to let him walk if a premiership job came up.
Gave everyone the impression all we had to do was offer him the job, then he backs away for 'family reasons'.
Or
He was never offered the job, we've got someone else lined up & he's pulled out before we offer it to someone else.
OGS would have been a risk, albeit probably a worthwhile one & we're not in a situation where we can afford to take a risk.
Lambert next.
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And the anti climax arrives.
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Right I said yesterday I believed it would be lambert after being told by someone very itk we had spoken with him, I then heard from the same person it was going to be unlikely to be lambert and it would be ole- now ole has pulled out will we go back to lambert or will he pull out too?
Who knows what will happen now- one thing for sure lambert was not the 1st choice but I hope he gets the job.
quit while you are well behind son. Every new post makes that hole ever deeper.
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Actually feel sorry for Lerner/Faulkner tonight
They went for an ambitious exciting appointment and they have been shafted I feel
We really need to show some support for the 2 of them now
Just thinking. Maybe it wasn't formally offered early enough. How long were we expecting Ole to beat off the press or Rokke?
But then, we had those quotes - 'when he is offered it, he will say, 'yes'.' Something went wrong.
How was he able to go to Rokke's place tonight without a firm acceptance of the job?
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If we're going for Lambert, then I hope to fuck we get him, because it really doesn't bear thinking where the search will lead if he ruled himself out.
Get a grip man.
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We're not going to let this... oh fuck it, I am gutted. It also makes us look like C U N T S!
I think you'd be surprised at how little coverage this has received over here. Big news in Norway, barely a mention over here. Fuck it, keep going. The board tried to move quickly, OSG has decided to look after his family, fair enough. NEXT.
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After all that happened that's absolutely heartbreaking...
Get a grip, man. It isn't heartbreaking. It is disappointing, yes, but keep it in perspective.
One thing I do think, though, is that the club will have been aware of the positive reaction to OGS and the degree to which it was because it was left-field thinking, promising root and branch change.
They're now in a situation where the man our fans were singing for on the last day of the season is going to look like a conservative choice.
If we're going for Lambert, then I hope to fuck we get him, because it really doesn't bear thinking where the search will lead if he ruled himself out.
Don't think it will be lambert so you might want to review that username
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
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Disappointed that OGS spoke about the job being offered that he'd find it hard to turn down, leaked that there was a clause in his contract to let him walk if a premiership job came up.
Gave everyone the impression all we had to do was offer him the job, then he backs away for 'family reasons'.
Or
He was never offered the job, we've got someone else lined up & he's pulled out before we offer it to someone else.
OGS would have been a risk, albeit probably a worthwhile one & we're not in a situation where we can afford to take a risk.
Lambert next.
To be fair to Solskjaer, he was always at pains to say he hadn't been offered the job, and that whether he'd come here was a hypothetical question.
I am inclined to believe that, as Dave W says, he was under serious consideration, maybe even the number one choice, but he wasn't offered it.
Don't get me wrong, it is still a knock back, as he's said he doesn't want to be considered any more, much as Martinez did last season, but I don't really know how it will look in the press.
Probably like a kick in the balls.
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Disappointed that OGS spoke about the job being offered that he'd find it hard to turn down, leaked that there was a clause in his contract to let him walk if a premiership job came up.
Gave everyone the impression all we had to do was offer him the job, then he backs away for 'family reasons'.
Or
He was never offered the job, we've got someone else lined up & he's pulled out before we offer it to someone else.
OGS would have been a risk, albeit probably a worthwhile one & we're not in a situation where we can afford to take a risk.
Lambert next.
Norweigian journalist reporting that Rokke has promised OGS a load of money to buy new players in time for CL qualifiers. This is the guy that was pulling out of Molde 2 days ago. Billionaires and their egos.
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On a positive note, the trip out has probably enabled the Ginger Prince to stock up on duty free fags and bottle of Anais Anais for 'er indoors
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Actually feel sorry for Lerner/Faulkner tonight
They went for an ambitious exciting appointment and they have been shafted I feel
We really need to show some support for the 2 of them now
This.
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
Or it may be true. I know people who have turned down jobs abroad because of their family.
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Waiting game now I reckon. If 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' go for AVB we will go Martinez.
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Leave it now cause it is to depressing for fuck sake. Fair play to Ole and having family values,did not think they meant a lot until today.
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He was not offered the job because he was not first choice !folk need to wait & see before getting hysterical.
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On a positive note, the trip out has probably enabled the Ginger Prince to stock up on duty free fags and bottle of Anais Anais for 'er indoors
I bet Faulkner and Lerner are sat in the Bartons now, saying "fuck me, I can't believe how much a pint was out there in Norway".
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
Or it may be true. I know people who have turned down jobs abroad because of their family.
I said a number of times I would not leave the life he has there for a job here at this stage.
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bottom line is he was in a comfort Zone. Man Citeh of Norwegian football to... well us. Its a bit different playing with the big boys from a club where half Dunne's yearly wages is a major club investment. Would have been a huge risk for him, and us
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A week ago we'd have said "So fucking what".
FFS - keep things in perspective.
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
Spot on.
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And the anti climax arrives.
As f..kin always.
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A week ago we'd have said "So fucking what".
FFS - keep things in perspective.
A week ago we hadn't stuck the mortgage on it.
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An official plea for a name changing back.
Of course, pending we go for Martinez. At which point it will be Montinez.
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Hello, Moderators,
Please could my username be changed back to the way it was. Louzie0
Ole, I am so disappointed.
Thanks
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On a positive note, the trip out has probably enabled the Ginger Prince to stock up on duty free fags and bottle of Anais Anais for 'er indoors
I bet Faulkner and Lerner are sat in the Bartons now, saying "fuck me, I can't believe how much a pint was out there in Norway".
Or 'Psssst...wanna buy some Silk Cut?'
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Lambert won't be joining us, this will probably turn into a replica of last seasons farcical manager search. I think OGS would've been a bold exciting appointment but it looks like Lerner dawdled when the guy was desperate for the job. We'll regret this I feel.
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Solskjaer hasn't lost the knack for last minute turn-around's anyway.
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Surely this is Rokke explaining "Family Reasons"
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Trying to keep up with the name change requests again. If we miss anyone just PM one of us and we will do it as soon as we can.
This has been a public information broadcast brought to you in sponsorship with anyone who pays me. Literally, give me something and i'll hawk you like the cheap tart I am.
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Lambert won't be joining us, this will probably turn into a replica of last seasons farcical manager search. I think OGS would've been a bold exciting appointment but it looks like Lerner dawdled when the guy was desperate for the job. We'll regret this I feel.
You don't know that, though.
It was only on Friday that OGS was over here. Today is Tuesday. There hasn't been enough time to do any dawdling.
My only concern now is that this isn't about Lerner telling OGS how much money he'd get to spend (ie not a lot) and him having second thoughts.
I don't believe the family reasons thing either, to be honest. It sounds a bit obvious and convenient to me, but that's just a feeling.
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OGS was a massive gamble anyway tbh
I'd go for Klinsmann personally
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
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If OGS has said no, and Lambert wasn't interested, where on earth would we look?
Rodgers isn't going to leave Swansea, Martinez will go to Liverpool if offered, so who does that leave us with?
Joe Kinnear?
Fuck that!......that was Joe speaking by the way
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Lambert won't be joining us, this will probably turn into a replica of last seasons farcical manager search. I think OGS would've been a bold exciting appointment but it looks like Lerner dawdled when the guy was desperate for the job. We'll regret this I feel.
Don't agree with that. Lerner was speaking with him 3-4 days after sacking McLeish - Solskjaer was only one person on the list as well. I think we should keep calm about this, it was the Norwegian media keeping this rolling on. OSG has stayed for family reasons after looking like he wanted to come; you can't blame the board for him changing his mind and doing what he thinks is best for his family.
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Right, can you change me back to plain not3bad?
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Never mind ole's loss will be someone elses gain - stunned by his change of heart but we move on and tomorrows a new day- let's hope whoever takes the job does a great job and we soon forget all about ole .
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It's disapointing but we should'nt take it too personally. Brendan Rogers did'nt even bother speaking to Liverpool the other day before saying he was'nt interested.
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Can I have Olneythelonely again please? :'-(
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i dont believe he was ever offered the job,
i also think that Randy and co arnt that bothered about it to much at the moment
i'm still not convinced we have heard the last of it yet, i think there might be a few more twists and turns
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Can someone replace my Oggy back to Villa :(
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It's already been misreported that he didn't want the job once already. Getting bored now. Might as well wait until it's confirmed. Enough of the tabloid and poor reporting already ta.
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
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Please Sir Mods (tail between his legs) can I have my user name back to diceman.
thanks
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Right, as you were.
£10 on Mick McCarthy.
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has ole actually quoted as saying hes not coming? he has to save face in molde to keep the fans on his side. i remember when big ron sat in front of all the press and said i'm staying at shef weds. i told my mate he's coming to the villa, you could see in his face he was being told what to say!
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i'd still reckon Lambert as favourite and was until Lerner crapped himself at the OGS hysteria . If he turns us down then we KNOW there's not a pot to piss in and he doesn't fancy it.
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
So you admit you have no proof?
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As others have said very reminiscent of big rons departure from Sheffield - we thought we had him then we'd lost him and then we had him again, who can legislate for such a change of heart !
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Genuinely, the last few days have been the most exciting for me as a disgruntled Villa/Football fan for the last few years. Now I just feel totally deflated.
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Should Ole end up Villa manager i'm not changing your bloody names back again! >:( ;D
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
It's what we're being told, which is a lot more evidence than you've come up with. Perhaps the reason it gets used so often is because it's often the truth.
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Doug must be having a quiet chuckle tonight. It smells of indecision and incompetence.
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I think the negativity surrounding this is because of the damage caused by Lerners last managerial fuck up. You can't blame people thinking the worst after the laughing stock they made of us last time.
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Genuinely, the last few days have been the most exciting for me as a disgruntled Villa/Football fan for the last few years. Now I just feel totally deflated.
Maybe we all got a bit carried away with the idea, though.
He's an unusual option, yes, but he's extremely inexperienced, a couple of years coaching youth teams and a year in Norway, it's not the most impressive of track records, he's very young and has a way to go yet.
I think my disappointment is part he's not coming, and part "oh christ, who else is on their list?"
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Doug must be having a quiet chuckle tonight. It smells of indecision and incompetence.
Yes, because Doug always got the manager he wanted.
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Doug must be having a quiet chuckle tonight. It smells of indecision and incompetence.
Indeed. It must remind him of his time at the Villa.
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I think the negativity surrounding this is because of the damage caused by Lerners last managerial fuck up. You can't blame people thinking the worst after the laughing stock they made of us last time.
That's what I was trying to say above. I don't think this is necessarily a fuck up, but all the same, the gigantic fuck up of last summer lingers in the memory.
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Have the Villa press office said that they never offered a contract? I just thought they confirmed that OSG had pulled out of the running citing family reasons.
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Christ, aren't there some drama queens or here tonight! Why shouldn't OGS have declined to be considered for family reasons? McLeish has only just got the boot-print off his arse and there's people moaning about the club dithering. Have some dignity, I would have liked him to come too, but it's far from the end of the world. Apart from anything else, I wish people would stop flapping their egos by claiming to be ITK. As a rule of thumb, assume that you know fuck all, and stop this ridiculous Chinese Whispers - the waiting for something to happen is irritating enough.
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Look at the facts Dave. We have amateurs owning and running the club. They are on a run of making wrong decisions and making a pigs ear out of most dealings on the football side.
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
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This whole saga shouldn't surprise any of us. We're Aston Villa fans, for Christ's sake - what did we think would happen? It's been just like when we've gone a goal up against a big scalp, Man United for example. The clock ticks down, we've held on and it looks like we're going to do it. We're going to fucking win. How great will it be if we finally fucking win? Then, in the last minute of injury time, they score. Two. A substitute. A Solskjær.
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You know what, Villanjock may have a point. It would'nt surprise me if this took another twist in the next day or so. There's been that many false rumours and stories flying round in the past week who knows what might happen. It's looking unlikley but well you never know.
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
So you admit you have no proof?
::)
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Genuinely, the last few days have been the most exciting for me as a disgruntled Villa/Football fan for the last few years. Now I just feel totally deflated.
Maybe we all got a bit carried away with the idea, though.
He's an unusual option, yes, but he's extremely inexperienced, a couple of years coaching youth teams and a year in Norway, it's not the most impressive of track records, he's very young and has a way to go yet.
I think my disappointment is part he's not coming, and part "oh christ, who else is on their list?"
I actually do buy the family reasons too Paulie, watching the documentary on him, he is very family focused they have the house they really wanted, he loves being by the sea etc, and is financially comfortable. Maybe the initial excitement of a big job wore off as he surveyed what he has out there. My family comes first and no job or money would come before them, maybe he is just the same.
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Look at the facts Dave. We have amateurs owning and running the club. They are on a run of making wrong decisions and making a pigs ear out of most dealings on the football side.
They aren't, but don't let facts get in the way of a good bit of hand-wringing.
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I think United had a song about him " he put the ball in the germans net.
and we can sing he turned us down on Randys Jet ..... ole gunnar solskar
ho hum :-\
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Just think how many people are going to see pages of extra posts on this thread, get all excited, only to find it was us lot talking even more crap than usual.
bastards ;)
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
So you admit you have no proof?
::)
I'll assume that's a no then.
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Look at the facts Dave. We have amateurs owning and running the club. They are on a run of making wrong decisions and making a pigs ear out of most dealings on the football side.
They made an absolute howler of the last appointment but let's not point the finger because a young manager learning his trade in Norway has turned us down. A bit of credit for being brave enough going for him in the first place would'nt go amiss.
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I'd rather we went without a manager than appoint that disrespectful bell-end Holloway.
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Never mind ole's loss will be someone elses gain - stunned by his change of heart but we move on and tomorrows a new day- let's hope whoever takes the job does a great job and we soon forget all about ole .
I've got to be honest, I had zero interest in his managerial career up until the past few days but I'll be keeping a curious eye on him from now on just to see how he progresses.
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The whole lot is just hearsay and main stream media bullshit! Don't believe the shite that we are being fed at all,it's all crap.
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I hope Norway get well and truly shafted by the other voting countries in Eurovison this weekend. NIL POIS. Bastards!
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Of the people out there lambert would be my choice , whether he would want the job when many will deem him as 2 nd choice is another matter - I hope so.
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he's not turned us down, he just wishes not to be considered, we never offered him anything to turn down
does this seem like deja vu
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I don't have a problem with the pixie faced wassock's decision in itself as I was far from convinced by the arguments put forward in his favour, but I am concerned that this episode might queer the pitch with our getting Lambert. Kevin Mac might be our best way forward now.
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On the bright side, I've just been able to unfollow a handful of dreary Norwegians on Twitter.
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
So you admit you have no proof?
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I'll assume that's a no then.
You can assume anything you like dear I am reading it absolutely correctly.
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I don't have a problem with the pixie faced wassock's decision in itself as I was far from convinced by the arguments put forward in his favour, but I am concerned that this episode might queer the pitch with our getting Lambert. Kevin Mac might be our best way forward now.
There's Lambert, then there's a gap to the likes of Grayson (fucking hell), Poyet, RDM and the likes.
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I hope Norway get well and truly shafted by the other voting countries in Eurovison this weekend. NIL POIS. Bastards!
go on the hump ....
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I don't have a problem with the pixie faced wassock's decision in itself as I was far from convinced by the arguments put forward in his favour, but I am concerned that this episode might queer the pitch with our getting Lambert. Kevin Mac might be our best way forward now.
Not keV mac please!
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There are going to be a lot of silly-looking usernames on this message board if OGS isn't our next manager...
Some swift changes of usernames then... ;)
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Despite this setback, the board have gone up 5-fold in my estimation over the last week or so
Keep up the good work chaps
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Gregory said he wants it, did he?
If he's the only one that does...
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Que Sera, Sera,
Whatever will be, will be
Villa's future's not ours, to see
Que Sera, Sera
What will be, will be.
Spose I'd better get my name changed back to Doorbell ha ha (please moderators :) )
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Well how about Gus Poyet. If I was Lambert and they try to contact him I would be inclined to tell them I have no interest in any way
Gus Poyet tries to play football and certainly could sort out any problems with disipline.
Grayson or Kevin Mac doesnt bear thinking about and Martinez has turned us down once
I actually think OGS will be the new manager in the next 48hrs
As Greavsie said "footballs a funny old game"
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Look at the facts Dave. We have amateurs owning and running the club. They are on a run of making wrong decisions and making a pigs ear out of most dealings on the football side.
They made an absolute howler of the last appointment but let's not point the finger because a young manager learning his trade in Norway has turned us down. A bit of credit for being brave enough going for him in the first place would'nt go amiss.
I applaud the brave decision to go for him but surely you do enough behind the scenes work that you know he will say yes. Martinez debacle of last year? I'm sure Dave would say that wasn't Lerners/Faulkners fault either.
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Gregory said he wants it, did he?
If he's the only one that does...
......... Really leave us in the shit !
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
You proof is?
And do you have any proof otherwise other than a tale that has been used a thousand times?
So you admit you have no proof?
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I'll assume that's a no then.
You can assume anything you like dear I am reading it absolutely correctly.
You are reading it how you choose to interpret it. There is a difference. And don't be so patronizing thank you.
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Thanks :D
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Look at the facts Dave. We have amateurs owning and running the club. They are on a run of making wrong decisions and making a pigs ear out of most dealings on the football side.
They made an absolute howler of the last appointment but let's not point the finger because a young manager learning his trade in Norway has turned us down. A bit of credit for being brave enough going for him in the first place would'nt go amiss.
I applaud the brave decision to go for him but surely you do enough behind the scenes work that you know he will say yes. Martinez debacle of last year? I'm sure Dave would say that wasn't Lerners/Faulkners fault either.
Dave will say that none of us know what happened then, as we don't now.
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Well how about Gus Poyet. If I was Lambert and they try to contact him I would be inclined to tell them I have no interest in any way
Gus Poyet tries to play football and certainly could sort out any problems with disipline.
Grayson or Kevin Mac doesntbare thinking about and Martinez has turned us down once
I actually think OGS will be the new manager in the next 48hrs
As Greavsie said "footballs a funny old game"
and then he had a drink 8)
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So one of our candidates has dropped out due to family reasons, big fucking deal. The shortlist of I'd suggest 5 or 6 other candidates is still there and I'm sure they're working their way through the interviews to appoint the right man to the published criteria. Disappointing that a bright young Manager (who I've got serious concerns about) has decided its not for him but hey ho, shit happens, we move on to the other candidates. Hopefully interviews will finish shortly, we can get the guy appointed and we can move on to moaning about the transfer policy.
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i too think he will be our manager, you could see he was like a pig in shit that we actually spoke to him.
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
A club of our standing? Take a step back and look at the bigger picture we ain't the massive club we once was. Our situation over the last couple of seasons has changed we need to get real and accept that we can't attract the best managers or players. What we can do is get a manager in who will work with what we've got and get them playing as a team and add a couple of half decent signings.
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Family reasons sounds strange, though.
Surely they'd have been there the whole time and not just surfaced after a meal with Rokke?
Pleased you see it like this as well.
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Fukin shambles, we are a laughing stock yet again.
I just don't see it like this at all. How come people won't believe our own press officer when he says no job was offered, yet they have no problems believing random ITK's on Twitter? Villa are going about things in a spot on matter as far as I can see.
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Because some people always want to believe the worst of the team they support. I don't understand it either.
Look at the facts Dave. We have amateurs owning and running the club. They are on a run of making wrong decisions and making a pigs ear out of most dealings on the football side.
They made an absolute howler of the last appointment but let's not point the finger because a young manager learning his trade in Norway has turned us down. A bit of credit for being brave enough going for him in the first place would'nt go amiss.
I applaud the brave decision to go for him but surely you do enough behind the scenes work that you know he will say yes. Martinez debacle of last year? I'm sure Dave would say that wasn't Lerners/Faulkners fault either.
Like i said elsewhere, Rogers and De Boer have turned down the chance to even speak with Liverpool. We can't just assume every manager we speak to should say yes.
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
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Wells, I ams keepings my news names as its is. Buts Is wills be gettings Dr Rockzos tos comforts mes.
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Doug must be having a quiet chuckle tonight. It smells of indecision and incompetence.
Yes, because Doug always got the manager he wanted.
And we have no idea who turned him down or who was favourite because the only source of gossip was the Evening Mail, every 24 hours. Which was probably way off or way on but the point is, we just wouldn't have known either way!
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OK if some people want to comfort themselves that he put his family first fine. I don't buy it. It's a PR spin agreed by both parties.
Spot on.
oh for f***s sake..............
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Gregory said he wants it, did he?
If he's the only one that does...
I'd be happy with a JGMkII type situation
He's villa through & through
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
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Family reasons sounds strange, though.
Surely they'd have been there the whole time and not just surfaced after a meal with Rokke?
Pleased you see it like this as well.
How long would you expect your wife and 3 kids would take to make the decision to move to another country?
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I applaud the brave decision to go for him but surely you do enough behind the scenes work that you know he will say yes. Martinez debacle of last year? I'm sure Dave would say that wasn't Lerners/Faulkners fault either.
Last year we asked several out of work managers and a couple of in work managers (through their clubs) for interviews, similar to what we are doing this year. Only Martinez, (via Dave Whelan) came out in the papers and said he wasn't interested in interviewing. That is similar to what Rodgers has done to Liverpool. He never turned down the job, just the interview request. OGS has ruled himself out after the interview but before any actual job offer.
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
A club of our standing? Take a step back and look at the bigger picture we ain't the massive club we once was. Our situation over the last couple of seasons has changed we need to get real and accept that we can't attract the best managers or players. What we can do is get a manager in who will work with what we've got and get them playing as a team and add a couple of half decent signings.
I did bring this up the other day, it does make me cringe sometimes the way people go on about a club of our size. You don't hear Everton go on despite the fact they've won a lot more than us recently??
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
And who on here said such a thing?
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Gregory said he wants it, did he?
If he's the only one that does...
I'd be happy with a JGMkII type situation
He's villa through & through
I wouldn't. I loved him at the time but you should never go back.
In hindsight he probably wasn't as great as I thought he was.
Being Villa through and through isn't enough.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
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I'm not sure why I'm more disappointed, the bets I placed; or that I could see entertaining football coming.
Please Randy, pick somebody who will entertain us
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FWIW Jan Aage Fjortoft has just tweeted that he's 110% certain OGS would accept the job if he was offered it, still. Make of that what you will.
Don't shoot the messenger (ducks for cover)
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Doug must be having a quiet chuckle tonight. It smells of indecision and incompetence.
Yes, because Doug always got the manager he wanted.
And we have no idea who turned him down or who was favourite because the only source of gossip was the Evening Mail, every 24 hours. Which was probably way off or way on but the point is, we just wouldn't have known either way!
One of the best comments of the night with the media frenzy thats going on. Spot on.
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2/1 now on Sky Bet
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
A club of our standing? Take a step back and look at the bigger picture we ain't the massive club we once was. Our situation over the last couple of seasons has changed we need to get real and accept that we can't attract the best managers or players. What we can do is get a manager in who will work with what we've got and get them playing as a team and add a couple of half decent signings.
I did bring this up the other day, it does make me cringe sometimes the way people go on about a club of our size. You don't hear Everton go on despite the fact they've won a lot more than us recently??
When was that?
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
A club of our standing? Take a step back and look at the bigger picture we ain't the massive club we once was. Our situation over the last couple of seasons has changed we need to get real and accept that we can't attract the best managers or players. What we can do is get a manager in who will work with what we've got and get them playing as a team and add a couple of half decent signings.
I did bring this up the other day, it does make me cringe sometimes the way people go on about a club of our size. You don't hear Everton go on despite the fact they've won a lot more than us recently??
They've won nothing since '95?
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On. Off. On. Off. On. Off. On.
Someone let me know when he's signed. Off to bed.
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FWIW Jan Aage Fjortoft has just tweeted that he's 110% certain OGS would accept the job if he was offered it, still. Make of that what you will.
Don't shoot the messenger (ducks for cover)
I could never understand why a big club never came in for him when he was a player. He always seemed to score a decent number of goals.
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Speaking of ITKs. The one who might, might, actually have a clue is General K's son. Didn't he say just when we were reaching fever pitch on here that OGS had impressed on Friday, but he was far from the only one to do so. He said that we have options (I think he did anyway).
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
And who on here said such a thing?
Christ too many to name. I'm not prepared to trawl through hundreds of pages.
I think it's safe to say a lot of people were claiming to be ITK on some kind of level and had heard OGS was coming.
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FWIW Jan Aage Fjortoft has just tweeted that he's 110% certain OGS would accept the job if he was offered it, still. Make of that what you will.
Don't shoot the messenger (ducks for cover)
peown peown .
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
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FWIW Jan Aage Fjortoft has just tweeted that he's 110% certain OGS would accept the job if he was offered it, still. Make of that what you will.
Don't shoot the messenger (ducks for cover)
He might well accept it if offered but we're not at that stage yet so its just idle speculation by Fjortoft (unless hes ITK and close to Solskjaer). Who says RL/PF will offer it to him anyway, maybe they've a candidate who interviewed better?
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The odds on OGS are tumbling on betfair. Back down to 6/1 from 33s about half an hour ago
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If lambert turns us down we really are on stoney ground unless they go for a *gasp* manager in a half good foreign league. The problem is finding one who's known in this country, someone who perhaps played well for an english during his career, so Villa fans can rate him highly on no evidence at all.....
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
His odds are coming back in ?
Why ?
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
And who on here said such a thing?
Christ too many to name. I'm not prepared to trawl through hundreds of pages.
I think it's safe to say a lot of people were claiming to be ITK on some kind of level and had heard OGS was coming.
In other words, nobody.
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Well, it's been emotional but I'm off to bed
Can't take anymore tonight
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If lambert turns us down we really are on stoney ground unless they go for a *gasp* manager in a half good foreign league. The problem is finding one who's known in this country, someone who perhaps played well for an english during his career, so Villa fans can rate him highly on no evidence at all.....
Oooooh.
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fuck it, off to bed to dream of a new manager in a non sexual way
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
A club of our standing? Take a step back and look at the bigger picture we ain't the massive club we once was. Our situation over the last couple of seasons has changed we need to get real and accept that we can't attract the best managers or players. What we can do is get a manager in who will work with what we've got and get them playing as a team and add a couple of half decent signings.
I did bring this up the other day, it does make me cringe sometimes the way people go on about a club of our size. You don't hear Everton go on despite the fact they've won a lot more than us recently??
When was that?
Since we won the league, 2 league titles, 1 Cup Winners Cup, 2 FA Cups and a league cup.
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Family reasons sounds strange, though.
Surely they'd have been there the whole time and not just surfaced after a meal with Rokke?
Pleased you see it like this as well.
How long would you expect your wife and 3 kids would take to make the decision to move to another country?
I guess like all of us He knows his wife and his kids views very well. So why did he come over last week when he knew where the job was? Why did he string us along after that for 4/5 days? And if it was family he didn't need a dinner meeting with Rokke to make that decision. And this another country is not so strange. This is where the kids have lived mst of their life. They were probably born here.
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If lambert turns us down we really are on stoney ground unless they go for a *gasp* manager in a half good foreign league. The problem is finding one who's known in this country, someone who perhaps played well for an english during his career, so Villa fans can rate him highly on no evidence at all.....
Which leagues are acceptable to you Greg? Only asking as you never actually seem to have a clue who you want apart from someone foreign. Only when we go for someone foreign you don't want them.
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Betfair seems to suggest this isn't over. Odds seem to be tumbling back down again. Reminds of when Redknapp said there was no way he would go back to Pompey from Southampton but after a brief hike, his price on betfair suggested otherwise as he quickly went back into odds on favourite.
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Betfair seems to suggest this isn't over. Odds seem to be tumbling back down again. Reminds of when Redknapp said there was no way he would go back to Pompey from Southampton but after a brief hike, his price on betfair suggested otherwise as he quickly went back into odds on favourite.
sky bet have him joint favourite with Lambert
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
You're not exactly proving your point by calling yourself 'cleverer'.
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Well, it's been emotional but I'm off to bed
Can't take anymore tonight
Me to mate. This shite makes me so tired.
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
And who on here said such a thing?
Christ too many to name. I'm not prepared to trawl through hundreds of pages.
I think it's safe to say a lot of people were claiming to be ITK on some kind of level and had heard OGS was coming.
In other words, nobody.
Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
His odds are coming back in ?
Why ?
now 2/1
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
You're not exactly proving your point by calling yourself 'cleverer'.
Tongue firmly lodged within my cheek.
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I'm off to the scratcher. When I awake, I'd like to hear that this has been a wind up and OGS is boarding the11C from Oslo to B6.
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I'm already sick of the idea of hearing "Aston Villa manager and former Manchester United striker, Ole Gunnar Solksjaer..." and I haven't heard it yet.
Not sure why there's a massive love in with him. Seems to me that there'll be MASSIVE expectation of him, and having to wait while he bombs arseholes like Dunne and Collins out of the club and get the team playing attractive football is something a lot of people won't have patience for.
At least with Rodgers or Lambert the expectation is that they build there teams gradually and purposefully and this would be the expectation. OGS is coming across on here as the grand solution to everything.
I very much doubt he will be. I WANT him to be. If he comes, I hope he is. But I just don't think it's going to work out that way.
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Family reasons sounds strange, though.
Surely they'd have been there the whole time and not just surfaced after a meal with Rokke?
Pleased you see it like this as well.
How long would you expect your wife and 3 kids would take to make the decision to move to another country?
I guess like all of us He knows his wife and his kids views very well. So why did he come over last week when he knew where the job was? Why did he string us along after that for 4/5 days? And if it was family he didn't need a dinner meeting with Rokke to make that decision. And this another country is not so strange. This is where the kids have lived mst of their life. They were probably born here.
Again, I know a few people who were offered jobs abroad and even went for interviews but turned them down after their families decided they didn't want to move. They went for the interview so as they had the option as to what to do with their lives. They then spent X amount of time talking to their families abut what they wanted. All of them took a lot longer than 4 or 5 days to come to their decisions. Including the folks I know who did move abroad.
Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
And now they are in their home country, with their family and a much nicer lifestyle than they'd have in Brum. It's not really a stretch of the imagination to assume they'd like to stay there now.
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Nobody has said they knew for certain that he was coming. Certainly not me. Can you find one?
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
Plus Kendrick broke it that OSG was not coming, exactly the opposite to what a lot of chumps on twitter were saying. Fair play to him, he played that really well.
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
And with regards to the last three many people have been talk ing about them on here. Hence my complaint that all these ITKs are chatting shite. Plus there have been more on here quoting from twitter and other places or claiming to be ITK themselves. I truly can't be arsed looking for them.
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Well, if you could be arsed, you wouldn't find them.
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If lambert turns us down we really are on stoney ground unless they go for a *gasp* manager in a half good foreign league. The problem is finding one who's known in this country, someone who perhaps played well for an english during his career, so Villa fans can rate him highly on no evidence at all.....
Which leagues are acceptable to you Greg? Only asking as you never actually seem to have a clue who you want apart from someone foreign. Only when we go for someone foreign you don't want them.
repeating myself here, but during MON's time he never went for players at the smaller Europa type clubs in the bigger leagues, where coming to us would be seen as a step up both money and career-wise. Same applies to managers
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
anyone get 28/1 tonight ;)
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
And with regards to the last three many people have been talk ing about them on here. Hence my complaint that all these ITKs are chatting shite. Plus there have been more on here quoting from twitter and other places or claiming to be ITK themselves. I truly can't be arsed looking for them.
So, we're all mentals for talking about them (incidentally, I have never heard this Gazton character even mentioned on here)
Put your knickers back on and calm the fuck down, you're making yourself look a knob.
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Christ, aren't there some drama queens or here tonight! Why shouldn't OGS have declined to be considered for family reasons? McLeish has only just got the boot-print off his arse and there's people moaning about the club dithering. Have some dignity, I would have liked him to come too, but it's far from the end of the world. Apart from anything else, I wish people would stop flapping their egos by claiming to be ITK. As a rule of thumb, assume that you know fuck all, and stop this ridiculous Chinese Whispers - the waiting for something to happen is irritating enough.
Totally agree. I am fed up with so called ITK's, twatter, media bullshit and the rest. What satisfaction do people get in being the first to spread a rumour that usually is just guesswork. I also get the feeling that there are people that just deliberately post things that are not true for the hell of it. Whilst I am at it, I am fed up with people criticising the club, players etc based on what they want to think is going on, rather than fact. I am pissed off with the whole must know now, must happen now attitude.
Rant over.
Disappointed about OGS as his profile fitted how I want Villa to go forward. I have only seen the Evening Mail exclusive which seems to have been taken up by all the rest of the media. I assume MK's ITK is the Villa Press Officer as it all happened so quick. I can only guess that OGS contacted the club immediately about his decision so that they knew before it hit the local media there and that is why MK got the story first. Surprised the Norwegian media were slow off the mark after they have seemed to have been live on everything since last week.
Why OGS decided not to be considered will possibly be down to a number of factors but I think the owner throwing his toys out of the pram put a lot of pressure on him to the point that OGS may have felt that he was letting down a whole community.
We move on and I hope that the club can try and keep the lid on their dealings as I do not think working under the spotlight of the fans, media etc. is helping. We are going to get who we get and just hope the club have taken notice of the reaction of the fans to the way forward with somebody like OGS.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
anyone get 28/1 tonight ;)
OGS wife
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There have been, Damon. People have been communicating like those chit shatters do. Some of them have been on the internet.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
There's no "they" involved.
The prices are just reflecting the money that's being punted. The bookies aren't sat there at 11 o'clock at night adjusting odds. If the odds are changing, it is because people are throwing money at it, and in a small market, it doesn't take much money to bring about a big change of odds.
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I just wish to clarify something:
IT TURNS OUT THAT ALL THESE 'ITKs' ON HERE AND VILLATALK SAYING OGS WAS A DEAD CERT ACTUALLY KNOW FUCK ALL.
cheers.
Aren't you the clever one, eh?
Certainly cleverer for not spouting bollocks on internet forums about done deals.
And who on here said such a thing?
Christ too many to name. I'm not prepared to trawl through hundreds of pages.
I think it's safe to say a lot of people were claiming to be ITK on some kind of level and had heard OGS was coming.
In other words, nobody.
Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
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Why OGS decided not to be considered will possibly be down to a number of factors but I think the owner throwing his toys out of the pram put a lot of pressure on him to the point that OGS may have felt that he was letting down a whole community.
That's a good point which has been ignored.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
anyone get 28/1 tonight ;)
OGS wife
probably Kendrick
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
And with regards to the last three many people have been talk ing about them on here. Hence my complaint that all these ITKs are chatting shite. Plus there have been more on here quoting from twitter and other places or claiming to be ITK themselves. I truly can't be arsed looking for them.
So, we're all mentals for talking about them (incidentally, I have never heard this Gazton character even mentioned on here)
Put your knickers back on and calm the fuck down, you're making yourself look a knob.
I never said you were mental for talking about it. Just that these ITK clearly know nothing.
Very classy last line from you there. I better heed what you say in case your retorts become even more mature.
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I'm more certain than ever about Dowie now.
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
And with regards to the last three many people have been talk ing about them on here. Hence my complaint that all these ITKs are chatting shite. Plus there have been more on here quoting from twitter and other places or claiming to be ITK themselves. I truly can't be arsed looking for them.
So, we're all mentals for talking about them (incidentally, I have never heard this Gazton character even mentioned on here)
Put your knickers back on and calm the fuck down, you're making yourself look a knob.
I never said you were mental for talking about it. Just that these ITK clearly know nothing.
Very classy last line from you there. I better heed what you say in case your retorts become even more mature.
Oh, it's just that you were banging on about people on here claiming to be ITK, and named three people who never actually post on here, and two journalists.
If you want to lash out at someone, go over to VillaTalk where you'll find the three posters you mentioned, rather than coming on here and ranting at people.
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
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I wonder if my Sam Allardyce ITK still has legs?
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
anyone get 28/1 tonight ;)
no got 33/1 (£10) just thought it was worth a punt on sky bet, but lets face it its a bit of a long shot,
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
And with regards to the last three many people have been talk ing about them on here. Hence my complaint that all these ITKs are chatting shite. Plus there have been more on here quoting from twitter and other places or claiming to be ITK themselves. I truly can't be arsed looking for them.
You are correct, there was definitely one person claiming ITK on here, but he was roundly rubbished days back.
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
So? Most of them are already loaded. Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
And even if they aren't loaded there is more to life than money you know. I'd put my family ahead of £ every single second of my life.
Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
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Family reasons sounds strange, though.
Surely they'd have been there the whole time and not just surfaced after a meal with Rokke?
Pleased you see it like this as well.
How long would you expect your wife and 3 kids would take to make the decision to move to another country?
I guess like all of us He knows his wife and his kids views very well. So why did he come over last week when he knew where the job was? Why did he string us along after that for 4/5 days? And if it was family he didn't need a dinner meeting with Rokke to make that decision. And this another country is not so strange. This is where the kids have lived mst of their life. They were probably born here.
Again, I know a few people who were offered jobs abroad and even went for interviews but turned them down after their families decided they didn't want to move. They went for the interview so as they had the option as to what to do with their lives. They then spent X amount of time talking to their families abut what they wanted. All of them took a lot longer than 4 or 5 days to come to their decisions. Including the folks I know who did move abroad.
Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
And now they are in their home country, with their family and a much nicer lifestyle than they'd have in Brum. It's not really a stretch of the imagination to assume they'd like to stay there now.
High achieving hungry men are totally focussed and obsessive about these things. There is nothing wrong with him "putting his family first" but that is not the man we wanted. OK let's stay disagreed on this.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
There's no "they" involved.
The prices are just reflecting the money that's being punted. The bookies aren't sat there at 11 o'clock at night adjusting odds. If the odds are changing, it is because people are throwing money at it, and in a small market, it doesn't take much money to bring about a big change of odds.
I blame dodgy programming of betting software myself.
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heh. there is so many awful options possible with this board but BigSam would take some topping
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Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
So it's fine for someone to come on here slagging us off, but we're not allowed to point out that he was wrong?
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It's probably John sticking his tenner on that's caused the odds to tumble.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
There's no "they" involved.
The prices are just reflecting the money that's being punted. The bookies aren't sat there at 11 o'clock at night adjusting odds. If the odds are changing, it is because people are throwing money at it, and in a small market, it doesn't take much money to bring about a big change of odds.
I blame dodgy programming of betting software myself.
We're front end only. We blame the back end people on a daily basis, so I'd tend to agree with you. It usually is their fault, too.
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maybe just maybe OGS knows we are talking to others,
he wants the job but knows who the other candidates are, he also thinks that one of the candidates is hot favourite with Randy and feels he cant compete,
so has pulled out gracefully so not to upset the apple cart further at Molde
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Greg, don't take this the wrong way, but fuck off.
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OGS gone from 28/1 to 3/1 with Skybet
Out to 5/1 now. They, like us, haven't got a clue.
If nothing else, the Board should be applauded for keeping the bookies guessing!
anyone get 28/1 tonight ;)
no got 33/1 (£10) just thought it was worth a punt on sky bet, but lets face it its a bit of a long shot,
well things can change quick in football , so you never know.
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
So? Most of them are already loaded. And even if they aren't there is more to life than money you know. I'd put my family ahead of £ every single second of my life.
Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
But you're not a footballer are you?
Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young? The vast majority of people involved in football are overwhelmingly driven by the idea of earning greater and greater riches, despite the fact they're all exceptionally well paid already. Don't underestimate the power of that.
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Yeah you're correct. Absolutely no ITKs have been on here. No one on here has been mentioning MM or TheTrees or Tim Abraham or Gazton or Kendrick.
Tim Abraham and Kendrick are journalists. it is their job to talk about these things.
TheTrees, MM and Gazton all post on VillaTalk exclusively, not on here.
So you might want to do a bit of research before losing your rag about it.
And with regards to the last three many people have been talk ing about them on here. Hence my complaint that all these ITKs are chatting shite. Plus there have been more on here quoting from twitter and other places or claiming to be ITK themselves. I truly can't be arsed looking for them.
You are correct, there was definitely one person claiming ITK on here, but he was roundly rubbished days back.
Apparently you have to quote their name exactly otherwise they don't exist........
Other than that you're backing up my point.
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It's probably John sticking his tenner on that's caused the odds to tumble.
i am a known 'Face' to be fair
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Nobody's to blame,we all got carried away with the promise of a young manager playing a better more exciting brand of football and we had interviews and comments to boot, something that we've never had from any of the other applicants. All we really know is what the club tell us and that is they were very happy with the response the club recieved about the vacancy. We've all jumped the gun, i suggest we all take a deep breath and wait until the club tells us whats going on.
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Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young?
Ha ha ha, did he really do that?
I thought reading "OGS rules self out" minutes after a constant flow of "he's the new manager" tweets was going to be the big football "WHAT THE FUCK?" moment of the evening, but that beats it for me.
I knew he had a high opinion of himself, but crikey...
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Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
So it's fine for someone to come on here slagging us off, but we're not allowed to point out that he was wrong?
I wasn't slagging anyone off. Just saying ITKs knew nothing. You're taking it way too personally, hence you're use of 'us'.
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Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
So it's fine for someone to come on here slagging us off, but we're not allowed to point out that he was wrong?
Pointing out where people have been incorrect is one thing. Many of your comments over the last dozen pages have been quite rude and condescending. I don't see the need for it.
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Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
So it's fine for someone to come on here slagging us off, but we're not allowed to point out that he was wrong?
Pointing out where people have been incorrect is one thing. Many of your comments over the last dozen pages have been quite rude and condescending. I don't see the need for it.
Thanks for the input, Troy.
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Nobody's to blame,we all got carried away with the promise of a young manager playing a better more exciting brand of football and we had interviews and comments to boot, something that we've never had from any of the other applicants. All we really know is what the club tell us and that is they were very happy with the response the club recieved about the vacancy. We've all jumped the gun, i suggest we all take a deep breath and wait until the club tells us whats going on.
Yep, we should be backing them now, its such an important appointment facing us. OSG is gone, fine, move on.
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Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
So it's fine for someone to come on here slagging us off, but we're not allowed to point out that he was wrong?
I wasn't slagging anyone off. Just saying ITKs knew nothing. You're taking it way too personally, hence you're use of 'us'.
Us being this site. Now out of interest, how much did you have on him?
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Greg, don't take this the wrong way, but fuck off.
No beating around the bush there, Damon but I know what you mean.
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This is Heroes and Villains, not a girls' boarding school.
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Well, if he signed up for the GM club he'd see exactly who it was that' sure OGS was coming. And I'm sure there'll be a few GM's asking for their money back after all the ITK bullshit spouted which has only come from Kendrick anyway. Let's not get all hoity toity about other people's opinions, eh?
So it's fine for someone to come on here slagging us off, but we're not allowed to point out that he was wrong?
I wasn't slagging anyone off. Just saying ITKs knew nothing. You're taking it way too personally, hence you're use of 'us'.
Us being this site. Now out of interest, how much did you have on him?
Ha nothing. I must admit I was gutted when his odds dropped, I thought I'd missed the boat. Turns out I didn't.
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
So? Most of them are already loaded. And even if they aren't there is more to life than money you know. I'd put my family ahead of £ every single second of my life.
Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
But you're not a footballer are you?
Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young? The vast majority of people involved in football are overwhelmingly driven by the idea of earning greater and greater riches, despite the fact they're all exceptionally well paid already. Don't underestimate the power of that.
Like all walks of life some footballers will be money obsessed. And bizarrely, when they don't show themselves to be money & trophy obsessed we call them unambitious and slate them for that. They can't win really can they?
Which is more important to you, money and your career or your family and their happiness?
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I'm quite surprised that the BBC are running the story with the emphasis on him not being offered the job, only the having talks part. I know those are the facts as we know them but I fully expected the 'Villa turned down by Norwegian rookie' bullshit.
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I'm quite surprised that the BBC are running the story with the emphasis on him not being offered the job, only the having talks part. I know those are the facts as we know them but I fully expected the 'Villa turned down by Norwegian rookie' bullshit.
Try TalkSport tomorrow. You'll get plenty of it. The kernts.
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Apparently you have to quote their name exactly otherwise they don't exist........
Other than that you're backing up my point.
Not really, I'm saying certain people were rubbishing ITK's on here days ago and well before you came blundering in accusing everyone of being to blame for it. You then moan when we have linked to journalists or other claiming to be ITK. If people have posted stuff from others them blame the original sources, not the linkers. Look, if you are angry at people because you have bet big on OGS, I'm sure you aren't the only one.
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Sorry in advance, guys.
Just to stir up a bit more, I just have to point out: OGS have not yet confirmed this himself.
And a quote from GaztonVilla about the OGS thread at VT:
Ok, I'm sticking my neck out here.. But here goes.
Do not lock this thread yet.
GaztonVilla has a very good reputation over there and since Friday he's consistently seemed sure that OGS would be AV manager. Take it as you want, it might be nothing to it, but I have hope still.
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Is it not odd that there have been no quotes?
How is the media so sure that he's pulled out?
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Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young?
Ha ha ha, did he really do that?
I thought reading "OGS rules self out" minutes after a constant flow of "he's the new manager" tweets was going to be the big football "WHAT THE FUCK?" moment of the evening, but that beats it for me.
I knew he had a high opinion of himself, but crikey...
nice story but complete bollocks
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Is it not odd that there have been no quotes?
How is the media so sure that he's pulled out?
Because the Villa press officer called them and told them.
For the media, that's gospel.
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Gutted it wont be OGS even though you still have to have hope but wasnt it SSN the other day where they said OGS wasnt intrested then he came out and said he was?
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
So? Most of them are already loaded. And even if they aren't there is more to life than money you know. I'd put my family ahead of £ every single second of my life.
Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
But you're not a footballer are you?
Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young? The vast majority of people involved in football are overwhelmingly driven by the idea of earning greater and greater riches, despite the fact they're all exceptionally well paid already. Don't underestimate the power of that.
Like all walks of life some footballers will be money obsessed. And bizarrely, when they don't show themselves to be money & trophy obsessed we call them unambitious and slate them for that. They can't win really can they?
Which is more important to you, money and your career or your family and their happiness?
What's more important to me is irrelevant though.
Just look at all the footballers and managers travelling around the world chasing pound signs. The vast majority will move their families if they get a big enough contract offer. I'm not saying OGS is one of them but suggesting he wouldn't consider us because he's happy living by the sea in Norway is a bit naive in my book.
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Is it not odd that there have been no quotes?
How is the media so sure that he's pulled out?
Because the Villa press officer called them and told them.
For the media, that's gospel.
I wonder if it was John pretending to be the press officer just so as he could get his tenner on?
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Is it not odd that there have been no quotes?
How is the media so sure that he's pulled out?
No, it's not especially odd. People don't have to comment on things, particularly if we have a direct source on the information as we do from our own club.
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Is it not odd that there have been no quotes?
How is the media so sure that he's pulled out?
Because the Villa press officer called them and told them.
For the media, that's gospel.
I wonder if it was John pretending to be the press officer just so as he could get his tenner on?
Ha ha, probably, yes.
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Don't matter. He's not coming. he was probably shit anyway. Move on.
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Is it not odd that there have been no quotes?
How is the media so sure that he's pulled out?
It appears odd that there's been no quotes confirming this from OSG himself, apart from his "I'm sure you'll hear more soon..." and then Mat Kendrick breaking the story.
Perhaps they're just waiting until morning to announce it properly over in Norway. I'm not getting my hopes up.
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Don't matter. He's not coming. he was probably shit anyway. Move on.
What Damon said.
Is there any joy in your life at all?
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Apparently you have to quote their name exactly otherwise they don't exist........
Other than that you're backing up my point.
Not really, I'm saying certain people were rubbishing ITK's on here days ago and well before you came blundering in accusing everyone of being to blame for it. You then moan when we have linked to journalists or other claiming to be ITK. If people have posted stuff from others them blame the original sources, not the linkers. Look, if you are angry at people because you have bet big on OGS, I'm sure you aren't the only one.
Wow.
A) I'm sorry I missed the boat in rubbishing the ITKs. I haven't been online..... Apparently it was ok to do criticise ITKs day ago but not now? Because that's all I was saying in my original post; that all ITKs knew nothing.
B) I wasn't accusing everyone being to blame for it. Like I've said, just the ITKs.
C) I have blamed the original sources not the posters. Hence me saying ITKs know nothing not everyone on here talking about it too.
D) I'm not angry. I was angry with McLeish this season. I'm not at this.
E) I didn't place any money on Solskjaer being our manager.
Congratulations, you got everything in your argument wrong.
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
So? Most of them are already loaded. And even if they aren't there is more to life than money you know. I'd put my family ahead of £ every single second of my life.
Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
But you're not a footballer are you?
Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young? The vast majority of people involved in football are overwhelmingly driven by the idea of earning greater and greater riches, despite the fact they're all exceptionally well paid already. Don't underestimate the power of that.
Like all walks of life some footballers will be money obsessed. And bizarrely, when they don't show themselves to be money & trophy obsessed we call them unambitious and slate them for that. They can't win really can they?
Which is more important to you, money and your career or your family and their happiness?
What's more important to me is irrelevant though.
Just look at all the footballers and managers travelling around the world chasing pound signs. The vast majority will move their families if they get a big enough contract offer. I'm not saying OGS is one of them but suggesting he wouldn't consider us because he's happy living by the sea in Norway is a bit naive in my book.
I bet the majority of professional footballers never leave their country of birth.
I could argue it's incorrect to think that OGS would have different principles regarding his family to you just because he's a footballer.
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maybe just maybe OGS knows we are talking to others,
he wants the job but knows who the other candidates are, he also thinks that one of the candidates is hot favourite with Randy and feels he cant compete,
so has pulled out gracefully so not to upset the apple cart further at Molde
It is indeed folly to have multiple candidates. Pick your man and go after him, it's the best way in football.
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It must have been a difficult decision if it was family-related. If Solksjaer has designs on the United job someday he'll definitely need a stepping stone between Molde and Man Yoo. I wouldn't exactly be pleased to lose him in that manner, but he must know that chances to build a reputation and prove himself in the Premier League don't come around too often for those outside of the established stable.
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Quite why the general assumption is footballers and managers will move without a second thought for their families is beyond me.
Erm, because they stand to make millions of pounds from it?
So? Most of them are already loaded. And even if they aren't there is more to life than money you know. I'd put my family ahead of £ every single second of my life.
Do you really think Ole and his family are short of a quid?
But you're not a footballer are you?
Do you think Reo-Coker was starving to death when he demanded pay parity with Ashley Young? The vast majority of people involved in football are overwhelmingly driven by the idea of earning greater and greater riches, despite the fact they're all exceptionally well paid already. Don't underestimate the power of that.
Like all walks of life some footballers will be money obsessed. And bizarrely, when they don't show themselves to be money & trophy obsessed we call them unambitious and slate them for that. They can't win really can they?
Which is more important to you, money and your career or your family and their happiness?
Whilst I don't agree with Aftabs original point on the family thing being agreed between both so we don't lose face, I would say that Røkke could easily match or double any wages that we could offer if he wanted to. So he could have the money and the family thing whilst also knowing that he is still young enough to move abroad at a much later date when the kids are older.
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When all is said and done, there is more said than done.
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When all is said and done, there is more said than done.
Ah, grasshopper.
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Well, I've jinxed CNZ and OGS with my username so far. Percy McCarthy please.
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It must have been a difficult decision if it was family-related. If Solksjaer has designs on the United job someday he'll definitely need a stepping stone between Molde and Man Yoo. I wouldn't exactly be pleased to lose him in that manner, but he must know that chances to build a reputation and prove himself in the Premier League don't come around too often for those outside of the established stable.
There is absolutely no way on earth a manager is ever going to go from Molde to Man U, no matter who they are.
He's apparently knocked back the likes of Wolves and Blackburn, so is clearly setting his sights higher than that as his next step, which makes you wonder where he's going to go.
Maybe it was too early for him (I'd understand that logic), but it is all confusing after him seemingly not being able to stop going on about how much he fancied the job for the last few days (even telling their directors he wanted to take his number 2 and 3, and their best player with him).
If you buy the family thing, then these are things that will have been on his mind from the start. It's not as if he's never lived in Britain, he spent 11 years here. His kids are practically English (according to him on that video).
I think something went on with the Molde chairman tonight (who sounds utterly fucking hatstand) and he's come out, decided not to go for it, and used the obvious reason.
Very odd.
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Well, I've jinxed CNZ and OGS with my username so far. Percy McCarthy please.
You sure Percy?
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Well, I've jinxed CNZ and OGS with my username so far. Percy McCarthy please.
You sure Percy?
I've made it happen.
God bless you, Percy, and all those you damn with your name changes.
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Don't matter. He's not coming. he was probably shit anyway. Move on.
What Damon said.
Is there any joy in your life at all?
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I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.[
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I am genuinely nervous at this point. All I can think is, what now? I don't think Lambert or Martinez will have any interest in joining tr club. They know how disoriented and disorganized it is at the moment. Solskjaer on the other hand has been outside of Britain and still knows us for the semi-successful well mannered club we used to be. Now, we're just a bunch of whining idiots with entitlement issues.
I think we are going to have another crazy name at the helm this year. I can't even begin to guess who will be in the dugout come the first match. It's going to be Phil Brown or some other crap name. I was really hoping for Ole, but I understand his decision if it indeed is because of family reasons. I'd rather have a loyal man than someone who jumps ship to a cross-town rival via email.
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Greg, if you had ever supported Aston Villa, in word or deed, I might be able to take you seriously.
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Well, I've jinxed CNZ and OGS with my username so far. Percy McCarthy please.
You sure Percy?
I've made it happen.
God bless you, Percy, and all those you damn with your name changes.
Ta chaps. May the jinx go on.
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I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
And you take great joy in pointing it out as well. It's more than likely that attitude that rubs people up the wrong way than tonight's unfortunate events.
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Greg, if you had ever supported Aston Villa, in word or deed, I might be able to take you seriously.
Don't take this the wrong way Damon but fuck off
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Greg, if you had ever supported Aston Villa, in word or deed, I might be able to take you seriously.
Don't take this the wrong way Damon but fuck off
That's not really doing much to help, is it Greg?
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I think something went on with the Molde chairman tonight (who sounds utterly fucking hatstand) and he's come out, decided not to go for it, and used the obvious reason.
Very odd.
I agree - I don't want to get into the realms of conspiracy theory but logically, the only thing Molde can change to tempt him is offer loads of cash for both him and his squad (like titanic amounts of cash) because they can't change the view from his office, can they? Villa have probably set their stall out, Solksjaer has reported back and Molde's chairman has retorted to such an extent that Villa can't match it.
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You just want to moan, take the piss, and blame people when things go wrong. You never pay in to VP, but you feel entitled to have a say. I have no idea why, you are an emotional leech.
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Got a feeling this is not over yet ..........
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Can Damon and Greg stop with the swearing at each other please.
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Got a feeling this is not over yet ..........
It's the hope that kills ya.
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I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
And you take great joy in pointing it out as well. It's more than likely that attitude that rubs people up the wrong way than tonight's unfortunate events.
what joy? Only mentioned it because people started having a pop. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
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He's still top of the betting.
Wouldn't write it off at the moment.
She's the Villa fan, remember. Think this could be about something else - Rokke has told him to hang out for more money for transfers?! Well, I would - to screw the raiding billionaire!
Pure speculation, of course. Cmon, OGS! Cmon Randy! You know it makes sense.
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Goodnight all. The sun will rise again tomorrow and bring hope.
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maybe just maybe OGS knows we are talking to others,
he wants the job but knows who the other candidates are, he also thinks that one of the candidates is hot favourite with Randy and feels he cant compete,
so has pulled out gracefully so not to upset the apple cart further at Molde
It is indeed folly to have multiple candidates. Pick your man and go after him, it's the best way in football.
The Doug way is indeed the best way. Multiple candidates leads to disappointment and muddle. Liverpool are getting in the same mess. American follyI think.
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I think something went on with the Molde chairman tonight (who sounds utterly fucking hatstand) and he's come out, decided not to go for it, and used the obvious reason.
Very odd.
I agree - I don't want to get into the realms of conspiracy theory but logically, the only thing Molde can change to tempt him is offer loads of cash for both him and his squad (like titanic amounts of cash) because they can't change the view from his office, can they? Villa have probably set their stall out, Solksjaer has reported back and Molde's chairman has retorted to such an extent that Villa can't match it.
I very much doubt he is getting paid more at Molde than we can pay him.
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I think something went on with the Molde chairman tonight (who sounds utterly fucking hatstand) and he's come out, decided not to go for it, and used the obvious reason.
Very odd.
I agree - I don't want to get into the realms of conspiracy theory but logically, the only thing Molde can change to tempt him is offer loads of cash for both him and his squad (like titanic amounts of cash) because they can't change the view from his office, can they? Villa have probably set their stall out, Solksjaer has reported back and Molde's chairman has retorted to such an extent that Villa can't match it.
I very much doubt he is getting paid more at Molde than we can pay him.
Maybe substitute 'can't match it' to 'won't match it' in my post.
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You just want to moan, take the piss, and blame people when things go wrong. You never pay in to VP, but you feel entitled to have a say. I have no idea why, you are an emotional leech.
oh aye. with your job i wouldn't go down the 'leech' road
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Greg, I'm sorry I told you to fuck off. What I really meant to say is that you really ought to get off your arse and support the Villa, rather than taking a perverse pleasure in everything that goes wrong. I'd be able to tolerate your gloating at the latest setback if you had the courage to name a candidate who meets with your approval. It would not be so infuriating if you ever attended a match, or applauded the club for anything.
So I'm sorry I told you to fuck off. I hope you understand why I felt the need to tell you to fuck off, but it was wrong of me to use the words 'fuck off' to you.
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I'd still be happy with OSG, Lambert or Martinez, but I wonder if the club now need to look wider, if OGS isn't actually coming to Villa. Poyet, Di Canio, God forbid Di Matteo, I hope not Simon Grayson, couldn't cut it with a big club like Leeds and would stand even less chance at an even bigger club like Villa. Young and vibrant, reinvigorating? How many out there are there?
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I have just caught up on the last 40 pages, and I don't think this is done and dusted yet.
And I refuse to change my name back until I see a quote from either OGS, RL or PF that it is dead.
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You just want to moan, take the piss, and blame people when things go wrong. You never pay in to VP, but you feel entitled to have a say. I have no idea why, you are an emotional leech.
oh aye. with your job i wouldn't go down the 'leech' road
Enough, this sniping will get tedious extremely fast.
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Simon Grayson could one day prove a good manager; I doubt anyone could succeed at Leeds with that head the ball Bates in charge. Now, though, is not the time for him to try here.
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I think something went on with the Molde chairman tonight (who sounds utterly fucking hatstand) and he's come out, decided not to go for it, and used the obvious reason.
Very odd.
I agree - I don't want to get into the realms of conspiracy theory but logically, the only thing Molde can change to tempt him is offer loads of cash for both him and his squad (like titanic amounts of cash) because they can't change the view from his office, can they? Villa have probably set their stall out, Solksjaer has reported back and Molde's chairman has retorted to such an extent that Villa can't match it.
I very much doubt he is getting paid more at Molde than we can pay him.
Maybe substitute 'can't match it' to 'won't match it' in my post.
Again, IF he was our number 1 choice I very much doubt that.
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Er... It worries me that you even mention his name.
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I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
And you take great joy in pointing it out as well. It's more than likely that attitude that rubs people up the wrong way than tonight's unfortunate events.
what joy? Only mentioned it because people started having a pop. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Oh please. You were on here straight away trying to rub people's noses in it. You know when to kick people when they're down, Greg, hence why you were nowhere to be seen on this board from about 2007-2010.
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Gutted like most, still think Ian holloway would do a good job. If as some folks on here are saying randy ain't gonna spend big holloway would get every single player in a villa shirt up for each game ready to give their all.
No way to Ian Holloway. Things are bad but they aren't so bad that we go crawling to somebody who A isn't all he thinks he is and B had the cheek to slag off a club of our standing.
A club of our standing? Take a step back and look at the bigger picture we ain't the massive club we once was. Our situation over the last couple of seasons has changed we need to get real and accept that we can't attract the best managers or players. What we can do is get a manager in who will work with what we've got and get them playing as a team and add a couple of half decent signings.
I did bring this up the other day, it does make me cringe sometimes the way people go on about a club of our size. You don't hear Everton go on despite the fact they've won a lot more than us recently??
When was that?
Since we won the league, 2 league titles, 1 Cup Winners Cup, 2 FA Cups and a league cup.
Hardly recently though was it (and could be wrong but I don't think they have won the League Cup)?
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Er... It worries me that you even mention his name.
I think it was in relation to someone posting that he was now almost the favourite on some betting sites. At least I hope it is in relation to someone posting that he was now almost the favourite on some betting sites.
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I have just caught up on the last 40 pages, and I don't think this is done and dusted yet.
And I refuse to change my name back until I see a quote from either OGS, RL or PF that it is dead.
Villa press office have confirmed it.
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Er... It worries me that you even mention his name.
I think it was in relation to someone posting that he was now almost the favourite on some betting sites. At least I hope it is in relation to someone posting that he was now almost the favourite on some betting sites.
He's second, after paul Lambert, on Oddschecker.
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I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
And you take great joy in pointing it out as well. It's more than likely that attitude that rubs people up the wrong way than tonight's unfortunate events.
what joy? Only mentioned it because people started having a pop. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Oh please. You were on here straight away trying to rub people's noses in it. You know when to kick people when they're down, Greg, hence why you were nowhere to be seen on this board from about 2007-2010.
what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
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Damon. I had to make a heart felt apology to Risso a couple of weeks back and you commended me for my sincererity! Thank you so much for showing me how to do it..
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what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
I'm sure there was a distinct lack of Gnasher on these boards when we were doing well. Perhaps you came on every now and then to have a whine when we'd lost.
I don't remember you saying anything positive about Villa ever since you've been on here. Not one thing.
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what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
I'm sure there was a distinct lack of Gnasher on these boards when we were doing well. Perhaps you came on every now and then to have a whine when we'd lost.
I don't remember you saying anything positive about Villa ever since you've been on here. Not one thing.
er no......i was on here all the time as my post count should hint at.
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I did bring this up the other day, it does make me cringe sometimes the way people go on about a club of our size. You don't hear Everton go on despite the fact they've won a lot more than us recently??
When was that?
Since we won the league, 2 league titles, 1 Cup Winners Cup, 2 FA Cups and a league cup.
Hardly recently though was it (and could be wrong but I don't think they have won the League Cup)?
Their last trophy was 1995. So they've hardly won a lot recently. And they've never won the league cup.
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what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
I'm sure there was a distinct lack of Gnasher on these boards when we were doing well. Perhaps you came on every now and then to have a whine when we'd lost.
I don't remember you saying anything positive about Villa ever since you've been on here. Not one thing.
er no......i was on here all the time as my post count should hint at.
*snigger*
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Yes Hoppo, watch and learn from the master of sincerity.
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what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
I'm sure there was a distinct lack of Gnasher on these boards when we were doing well. Perhaps you came on every now and then to have a whine when we'd lost.
I don't remember you saying anything positive about Villa ever since you've been on here. Not one thing.
er no......i was on here all the time as my post count should hint at.
*snigger*
Like it.
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She's the Villa fan, remember. Think this could be about something else - Rokke has told him to hang out for more money for transfers?! Well, I would - to screw the raiding billionaire!
My theory is that there is more riding on being a success at Villa then his career...
Coming now and failing wasn't worth the risk to his marriage.
As if appeasing Villa fans isn't difficult enough, double whammy when your wife is one too.
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what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
I'm sure there was a distinct lack of Gnasher on these boards when we were doing well. Perhaps you came on every now and then to have a whine when we'd lost.
I don't remember you saying anything positive about Villa ever since you've been on here. Not one thing.
er no......i was on here all the time as my post count should hint at.
*snigger*
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Simon Grayson could one day prove a good manager; I doubt anyone could succeed at Leeds with that head the ball Bates in charge. Now, though, is not the time for him to try here.
Agree Dave. Got a lot of time for Simon Grayson. By all accounts he was an excellent pro whe he was at Villa and he made a good start to his managerial career Blackpool before having a bit of a rough time at Leeds. Hope he does well at Huddersfield, but he's not the man we need.
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Got a feeling this is not over yet ..........
Andy Lockhead provided a link earlier to the Norwegian newspaper which I have just translated (if you can call it that when using an internet translator!). What I can make from it is that the story is coming from the telephone call by Doogan. OGS left Oslo and would not comment until he got back home. When he landed back home the press were there to meet him and he said that he would make a statement tomorrow but the press report was that he looked bemused. The report went on to say that no statements were coming out of Molde.
It seems that everything has come about from the telephone call from Doogan to VG the Norwegian newspaper and Matt Kendrick has picked up on this. Other media have picked up on the Mail report and it has spread.
Seems strange.
Not holding out any hope but ...
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To Villa 74, fair enough. You think it'd be acceptable to appoint a man who described us as a 'half arsed club that used to be famous' as manager. I disagree.
If you want to rake over the meaning of my 'club our standing' comment fair enough. We can agree to disagree with you there. But I cannot agree with you that somebody who could say that about any club could ever be considered suitable for the job of manager at the same club he had run down.
Regardless of our standing, even if we were a Wigan Athletic supporter, I would not want anybody who describes us in such terms to be ever considered a suitable managerial appointment.
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Holloway has fallen out with Oysten at Blackpool hasn't he. Good football, a lot of young players...
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It seems that everything has come about from the telephone call from Doogan to VG the Norwegian newspaper and Matt Kendrick has picked up on this. Other media have picked up on the Mail report and it has spread.
Seems strange.
Not holding out any hope but ...
If that's the case the offer might not have been made.
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meh. Don't care. The main thing is OGS isn't coming which is good news IMO, and if people can't cope with someone not sharing their opinion fair enough. Probably a message board isn't the place for them.
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http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/aston-villa-specials/next-permanent-manager
A list of the current 60-odd possibles, interesteds and not in a million years. One or two others (Dean Saunders, that guy with the incredibly long name) mentioned today on the manager thread.
If unhappy with OGS, or if he's unhappy with us, then who?
Suggest going back to the next manager thread, to discuss possibilities.
Sod it. Still think there might be a way out, but either way, there's a future!
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It seems that everything has come about from the telephone call from Doogan to VG the Norwegian newspaper and Matt Kendrick has picked up on this. Other media have picked up on the Mail report and it has spread.
Seems strange.
Not holding out any hope but ...
If that's the case the offer might not have been made.
It seems as though the meeting was to straighten things out between them after things going pear-shaped at the weekend so the newspaper report is saying. It appears that Rokke may have felt he went too far and is trying to put out the fires of criticism he is receiving from everybody and trying to build bridges with the community there. No doubt other things were discussed.
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I'm disappointed Solskjaer isn't coming, I think he would have been a good manager. I can understand people disagreeing, but would like to know who they'd prefer. Some can name names, others can't.
And I always reckon that if somebody doesn't support Aston Villa, maybe a Villa messageboard isn't the place for them.
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Holloway has fallen out with Oysten at Blackpool hasn't he. Good football, a lot of young players...
A little off topic, but I remember reading somewhere that he based Blackpool's attacking game on the way Swansea played under Roberto Martinez. I think he was out of a job at the time and he went and watched Swansea train and play a number of times, and was so impressed that he tried to implement a similar style when he took over at Blackpool.
Still wouldn't want him near the club though after the disparaging remarks he made.
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I'm disappointed Solskjær isn't coming, I think he would have been a good manager. I can understand people disagreeing, but would like to know who they'd prefer. Some can name names, others can't.
And I always reckon that if somebody doesn't support Aston Villa, maybe a Villa messageboard isn't the place for them.
give it a rest anchorman
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Gutted. But cant blame the board. They went after him and (if this is true) it didnt work out.
Rodgers IN!
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greg, even for you you're being a bell end tonight. Can't you at least wait to the morning?
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Well I've had enough for one night. That's all from me.
Go fuck yourself, San Diego
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I'm off to Sacksville too. Everybody arguing, sniping, rattiness, disappointing news, confusion, bedwetting, cats and dogs living together...
It's all depressingly familiar.
Let's hope for some suprisingly positive news tomorrow.
At least the weather's nice.
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Blimey just catching up since the disappointing news broke. I see that some bloke called Lamb something is a complete knob spouting bollocks, and as is usual - bad Villa news, the rotten wood creeks, and Nash comes out to feed. Not much change there.
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greg, even for you you're being a bell end tonight. Can't you at least wait to the morning?
You know how it is MaZ. Been lurking all day but when i read the news i logged on. Didn't want him in the first place, but then you get various shit media interviewer types throwing their toys out the pram and playing the big I AM accusing you of all sorts because they're upset. god knows what they're employers would think
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Take the rest of the night off, Greg. It's for your own good.
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Maybe we'll end up with that Dominos Pizza bloke from Portugal? Fuck, what a mess ..... again!
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I don't see too much wrong with Greg's comments. He has an opinion and voiced it.
In response to an informal chat that our board have had with OGS, prior to compiling a shortlist of candidates, internet messageboard members have worked themselves up to a frenzy and seemingly believing that the polls they were voting on were actually part of the process to select our next manager.
I cannot get disappointed in the failure to appoint a manager when in all reality we know nothing of his untested managerial abilities and the process has not got any further than informal discussions and as far as we know a shortlist has not been completed and we are in the dark as to which other managers have applied
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Maybe we'll end up with that Dominos Pizza bloke from Portugal? Fuck, what a mess ..... again!
See, this is what's pissing me off. The Villa press office confirm that OGS is no longer being considered for the job and suddenly it's a big mess and a board f*ck up. Tell you what, how about he was never offered the job in the first place and the board have decided that they prefer someone else? Wait and see what happens and who they appoint before having a big Waaaaah
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To be fair to Villa fans the board have made a couple of real howlers manager wise over the past 12 months (hiring AMc then refusing to fire him as we nose dived towards relegation).
But I happen to think they are doing alright this time around. Remember its THEY who came up with OGS as a candidate not us and if this rumour is true that he has withdraw then thats hardly their fault.
Anyway I will happily throw my rotten eggs at the board if they make a bad appointment again but until they do I remain broadly supportive f the candidates being floated around.
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We'll find out more tomorrow, but it seems fair enough and something I'd worried about since the rumour broke, to be honest.
OGS has only been home for a year. He'll want his kids to grow up not only Norwegian, but in Kristiansund as well, with his old club as the community club. He's only 39, and will get opportunities to manage big clubs in big leagues, not just England, because of his managerial abilities and general reputation in the game. For now, he can certainly be forgiven for wanting to stop at his boyhood club when he's taking them into the Champions' League and bringing up his kids in the land of his birth. I mean, he's hardly stuck for money, either, after eleven years at United!
No, it's a big shame for us but we move on. Without that ITK traffic controller (or whatever he is) we'd have never found out about this and never been disappointed. Solskjær would have considered the option (not offer), talked it over with his wife, decided it wasn't for him at the moment and we might have found out in five years' time. Because we knew, it feels like an opportunity missed; in reality, there's not much more we could have done, and the board deserve credit for attempting such an imaginative appointment. We move on.
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I can imagine how the meeting/meal may have gone with Rokke, OGS and their wives...following a pleasant evening discussing transfer budgets and targets for their forthcoming CL campaign, a quick slideshow comparing the picturesque sights of Birmingham and Kristiansund...you cant blame anyone for wanting a comfortable peaceful life in a beautiful area compared to what they'd have here.
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Ok, it's a letdown but this time last week he was no where near being considered.
We look a bit silly and other Managers might assume not to be 1st choice but in the catalogue of Randy/Faulkner cock ups I think this is one that isn't really their fault.
Forget about him and move on, we've no option.
Lambert or Van Gaal please.
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Hmm the fjords of Norway, or the Birmingham to Fazeley canal?
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Headline in the Norweigian paper TK. "Solskjaer wont confirm Villa No."
This is from when he was quizzed by journos when his plane landed back in Kristiansunds last night.
The plot thickens.
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Headline in the Norweigian paper TK. "Solskjær wont confirm Villa No."
This is from when he was quizzed by journos when his plane landed back in Kristiansunds last night.
The plot thickens.
Hell yes! Back from the dead, dont call it a comeback. Game back ON!
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Where has it actually been confirmed that AVFC PR Rep has said that OGS is off the table? I've only seen some norwegian papers saying that they got that from Doogers (or what is his name) and even Birmingham Mail article didn't have "from AVFC".
What the eck is going on?
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Damned if they do damned if they don't.
The club at least by showing an interest in OGS, have shown they are looking at more than the obvious contenders. Just maybe whoever they are turning to for advice, is actually giving them some exciting alternatives, so if it is not to be OGS, lets hope for some other out of the box , young and vibrant manager, their words not ours.
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Where has it actually been confirmed that AVFC PR Rep has said that OGS is off the table? I've only seen some norwegian papers saying that they got that from Doogers (or what is his name) and even Birmingham Mail article didn't have "from AVFC".
What the eck is going on?
It all comes from Doogan quote. Mail got it first, everyone else got it from the Mail.
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Who is this Doogan person?
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How come Greg's post count is only 10?
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Who is this Doogan person?
Head of Media - Brian Doogan.
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Cheers mate
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Could have Kendrick got it horribly wrong?
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I can't believe I'm doing this for the second summer running!
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Could have Kendrick got it horribly wrong?
It came from Villa press officer. We can hope for a mad change of heart, or his wife seeing him restless at night and telling him to go, or Rokke taking the frighteners off him.
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I'm certain it was nothing to do with his wife. His boss has waved a load of cash under his nose and told him he can go next time.
I think that's quite plausible.
A pay increase, more money to spend on players there and a CL campaign to look forward to where - if Molde do well- he'll gain even more admirers.
I'm still clinging to the hope that he will have a Ron Atkinson-like change of mind in the next few days and take the job.
If he doesn't, then if we find out that his Uncle Fergie warned him off us because of how we treated Alex's other pet, then i will be very angry!
That's perfectly believable too. OGS in two minds as to whether to take the job until a friendly call to Fergiescum (who always has Villa's best interests at heart, lets not forget) clarifies things: "Their fans are mentawists, wad. They'll expect the weague wrapped up by March because of some trophy they won in the early 80's. Avoid. Spend another 12 months at home and wait for a better offer."
Sirawex can join Holloway for the dirtnap as far as I'm concerned.
But then I'd think that anyway -even if he did take leave of his senses and actually talk us up.
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Another quote from Solksjaer: "A club cant confirm anything." Also said he could say more on Wednesday.
Sure Doogan was TOLD to say OGS not coming by someone above him (PF/RL?). Doesn't look good from OGS's point of view if we're briefing press without a definite yes or no from OGS himself.
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Randy 'furious' according to IKIA on Twitter but the club are said to be 'relaxed about it' on the radio this morning.
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Headline in the Norweigian paper TK. "Solskjær wont confirm Villa No."
This is from when he was quizzed by journos when his plane landed back in Kristiansunds last night.
The plot thickens.
where was he flying from?
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Headline in the Norweigian paper TK. "Solskjær wont confirm Villa No."
This is from when he was quizzed by journos when his plane landed back in Kristiansunds last night.
The plot thickens.
where was he flying from?
Meeting with Rokke.
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I must admit it was on my mind that Ferguson had bad mouthed us
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I must admit it was on my mind that Ferguson had bad mouthed us
He likes us...now we're not a threat.
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Headline in the Norweigian paper TK. "Solskjær wont confirm Villa No."
This is from when he was quizzed by journos when his plane landed back in Kristiansunds last night.
The plot thickens.
where was he flying from?
This: http://www.tk.no/sporten/fotball/article6072331.ece (http://www.tk.no/sporten/fotball/article6072331.ece)
And the article translated in english:
Solskjær doesnt want to confirm that he has declined the Aston Villa job.
Tuesday evening it was reported that OGS no longer was in the running to become manager of AVFC. OGS doesnt want to confirm the information which came from England.
Together with Jim Solbakken and his wife Silje Lyngvær, Solskjær landed Tuesday evening at 23.45, with Aker's private jet.
He was met by several journalists.
Everyone wanted to know why he had refused the Aston Villa job.
After the dinner meeting with Røkke and Bjørn Rune Gjelsten in Oslo, it emerged that Solskjær had declined the AVFC job offer due to family reasons.
He was confronted with information passed on to both English and Norwegian media by the Aston Villa's press officer. Solskjær didnt, however confirm that he had said no to the Premier League club.
- We will talk together after training on Wednesday, said Solskjær before he hurried into his car parked at the airport beside Kvernberget.
Molde Chairman Øystein Neerland wouldnt confirm what was reported from Aston Villa. Both Molde and Ole Gunnar kept the speculation around the 39-year-old alive.
Molde is scheduled to train 10:30 at Aker Stadium on Wednesday. Thursday is the game against Tromsø.
- I think Ole Gunnar lead Molde against Tromsø, said Neerland.
- I can not comment more on this now. We have to wait. I ask you to be patient, said Neerland to future speculations.
Neither Molde, as a club or Røkke, through their company, Aker, had by 01:00 said anything about what was said at the dinner meeting in Asker.
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incurring red nose's wrath was always a risk after TSM but it's pointless shroud waving over something we've never had or lost. If OGS is off the managerial radar let's just move on. He was only one target anyway, by his own admission
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Solskjaer has declined to not deny that he has not said no to refusing not to turn the job down.
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He's planning to talk to us after training? Or have I misread that?
Just wonder why it appears villa may of jumped the gun with announcement?
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He's planning to talk to us after training? Or have I misread that?
Just wonder why it appears villa may of jumped the gun with announcement?
Either way, someone's dropped a bollock somewhere.
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Solskjær has declined to not deny that he has not said no to refusing not to turn the job down.
"Confused? You won't be after this week's episode of Soap!"
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HERRINGS & VIKINGS?
Move on or still cling to the hope "Nothing surprises me in football anymore" believing it could still happen?
I shall save this at the point I had it to at about 10pm last night.
Either ready to complete or as an epitaph to the internet age and the ability of a bunch of Villa fans/chancers to get completely carried away in the age of instant news, instant bullshit, instant rumour that these days we can all have access to.
By the way, if it does happen, has someone got a G and a K?
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Solskjær has declined to not deny that he has not said no to refusing not to turn the job down.
Time to look elsewhere, i want a manager who is desperate to manage a great club like aston villa , not someone whos not sure about it.
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Solskjær has declined to not deny that he has not said no to refusing not to turn the job down.
Time to look elsewhere, i want a manager who is desperate to manage a great club like aston villa , not someone whos not sure about it.
Any news from your source?
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Time to look elsewhere, i want a manager who is desperate to manage a great club like aston villa , not someone whos not sure about it.
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Sent you a pm dc5.
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Maybe his wife found out that we had let Heskey go and threw a strop.
We've spent the last 4 days trying to call Heskey, but since no one has called him these last 3 years we don't know what his mobile number is.
It's a shame really. When my user name changed to Stæve Røse I suddenly became the 43rd best dressed man in Norway.
I was quite pleased with myself until I found out which one of you bastards was 42nd.
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Maybe taking Ole and his wife to Snobs for a night out put them off.
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No doubt at some point today the whole thing will unravel and we'll find out what's what. Either that or it will take another twist again (like it did last summer).
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I think what put him off was us leaving him hanging and facing the shitstorm back in Norway, while we fucked about trying to find other candidates.
He seemed keen enough when those answers to the three questions were revealed.
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No doubt at some point today the whole thing will unravel and we'll find out what's what. Either that or it will take another twist again (like it did last summer).
Twisting time is here. Bop Bop.
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No doubt at some point today the whole thing will unravel and we'll find out what's what. Either that or it will take another twist again (like it did last summer).
Yep. Lets twist again like we did last summer!
Beat me to it e i adio!
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Oh bollox!! I'm going back to bed..Who is this Lambert guy?
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OGS will still come.
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Ole 6-1 in Wm's..don't want it!! Lambert 7-2. Martinez similar. Someone else from left field perhaps? Brendan is happy with his laver bread sarnies.
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OGS will still come.
I hope your are right. I was gearing up for success and glam and pride again..Now..err?
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What do you call a Norwegian prostitute?
Fjord Escort.
I think this could be a long day.
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OGS and his wife were taken to Mr Egg by Randy, but Ole's wife was far from impressed when she discovered it's no longer possible to eat like a Queen for £1.50. That's what my ITK (in the kitchen) sources have fed through to my control centre this morning. Randy will take Paul Lambert to I Am The King Of Balti in Sparkbrook, and the announcement will be made on THURSDAY or FRIDAY this week. Don't shoot the messenger, but the swing-o-meter has swung back again, then again, this control centre does have a nasty draught.
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
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Shite news this morning, cheers OGS!!!! >:(
Do not want Lambert, Rodgers or Martinez anywhere near Villa. Will only be happy now, if out of the blue, Di Matteo is free to join us.
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
I dont think even PF could get away with unveiling Bob Bradley after categorically stating we were looking for someone young and vibrant
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
How much have you got on him?
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Solskjær has declined to not deny that he has not said no to refusing not to turn the job down.
"Confused? You won't be after this week's episode of Soap!"
very good & highly appropriate.
all these wasted words & time...
does my memory serve me right...? when MoN was announced, it was (virtually) when the deal was done..?
i was no great fan of HDE (putting it mildly), but the current regime seem to not have joined up thinking....
am i right, or am i right..?
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
I dont think even PF could get away with unveiling Bob Bradley after categorically stating we were looking for someone young and vibrant
did he say young? I know he said vibrant but that means exactly nowt to me. I'm struggling to think of any managers i'd describe as vibrant.
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
How much have you got on him?
it was more a comment on the wildly altering odds than a serious statement.
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Ah well, this is roller coaster that is being a Villa fan. A few days of thinking about a new dawn, a new regime under a manager who has the potential to be a winner.....Nothing can be done about that lad if he wants to stay and complete the job in Molde, well fair play to him. But when you get used to the idea of him being our gaffer, it's disapointing when it pans out like this.
As for us, what is scary is that we don't know what is going to happen now...Randy and Faulkner are liable to do anything...it could be Lambert...it could be Steve Staunton...who knows.
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Gary Neville.
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Well this is depressing and I'm now dreading(for no good reason) who will be appointed. Hopefully they'll have another exciting 'out of the blue' candidate. Please can my username be changed to PaulWinch again.
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Gary Neville.
Jesus, bring back Big 'Eck!
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Gary Neville.
Jesus, bring back Big 'Eck!
Dont even go there!
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Well this is depressing and I'm now dreading(for no good reason) who will be appointed. Hopefully they'll have another exciting 'out of the blue' candidate. Please can my username be changed to PaulWinch again.
Ha ha cheers.
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Gary Neville.
Jesus, bring back Big 'Eck!
Dont even go there!
Wasn't being serious although the thought of that Manc gobshite at VP makes a bit of sick come up
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Ah well perhaps it was never meant to be. Still not renewing until the right man (whoever he is) is in place.
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
How much have you got on him?
it was more a comment on the wildly altering odds than a serious statement.
I've now put £25 on him at Ladbrokes at 33/1 - I'll cut you in when I pick up the winnings.
Thanks for the tip.
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OGS and his wife were taken to Mr Egg by Randy, but Ole's wife was far from impressed when she discovered it's no longer possible to eat like a Queen for £1.50. That's what my ITK (in the kitchen) sources have fed through to my control centre this morning. Randy will take Paul Lambert to I Am The King Of Balti in Sparkbrook, and the announcement will be made on THURSDAY or FRIDAY this week. Don't shoot the messenger, but the swing-o-meter has swung back again, then again, this control centre does have a nasty draught.
Norway is probably one of the most expensive countries in the world
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
How much have you got on him?
it was more a comment on the wildly altering odds than a serious statement.
I've now put £25 on him at Ladbrokes at 33/1 - I'll cut you in when I pick up the winnings.
Thanks for the tip.
Oh right so when some nutjob on the internet mentions Bob Bradley you put some money on. How much have you got on Dowie? Eh? I'm waiting....
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
How much have you got on him?
it was more a comment on the wildly altering odds than a serious statement.
I've now put £25 on him at Ladbrokes at 33/1 - I'll cut you in when I pick up the winnings.
Thanks for the tip.
Oh right so when some nutjob on the internet mentions Bob Bradley you put some money on. How much have you got on Dowie? Eh? I'm waiting....
Dowie? I didn't know he was interested.
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How come Greg's post count is only 10?
what madness is this?? dear god, at least check before coming out with this utter bobbins
I'm sure there was a distinct lack of Gnasher on these boards when we were doing well. Perhaps you came on every now and then to have a whine when we'd lost.
I don't remember you saying anything positive about Villa ever since you've been on here. Not one thing.
er no......i was on here all the time as my post count should hint at.
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Dowie? I didn't know he was interested.
He's my ITK. Can you imagine a day when he's not interested, stick £50.00 on at least.
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Personally, if he starts fucking us about with some kind of "yes, err, I mean no, oh, did I say no? What I meant was maybe" nonsense, we should tell him to do one.
He's a rookie manager, he hasn't earned the right to piss us about.
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Personally, if he starts fucking us about with some kind of "yes, err, I mean no, oh, did I say no? What I meant was maybe" nonsense, we should tell him to do one.
He's a rookie manager, he hasn't earned the right to piss us about.
Thing is I'm not sure he's done that. I'm not even convinced he's said he doesn't want it.
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Solskjaer Signs New Contract
After clinching the Norwegian Premier Division for the first time in their history, Molde manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has been offered a new contract till December 2013, worth a reported £3,500 per week.
In an exclusive interview with Sky Sports News, Solskjaer had the following to say ...
" I am delighted to have signed this new contract, winning the league last season is one of the highlights of my career to date. Now I and the team have to build upon this success and create a new legacy for the club and its fans."
When asked on his future desire has a manager he gave an interesting answer ....
"For now and the forseeable future I will be with Molde. This is a club who hold a special place in my heart and I intend to bring all the success I can to the club. Me and my family are happy to be back in Norway after many years with Manchester in England, and I dont want to disrupt thier lives for my personal gain. But maybe in the future I would love to manage in England, but that day is not coming soon."
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Oh well that's confirmed that then.
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Fair enough I suppose, but £3,500 a week? Is there a decimal point in the wrong place there? I know plasterers who earn more than that.
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Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has turned down the chance of managing Aston Villa, a spokesman for the English Premier League said on Tuesday.
"Solskjaer is no longer an alternative for Aston Villa. He has said no for family reasons," Bryan Doogan said.
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Might as well end this thread now its official then.
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Dowie? I didn't know he was interested.
He's my ITK. Can you imagine a day when he's not interested, stick £50.00 on at least.
I haven't got any money left. I've put it all on Bob Bradley. I'm beginning to regret it now.
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I thought he was contracted for the next 4 years?
To be honest, I still wouldn't be surprised if we ended up hiring him...
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Ole Gunnar Solskjær has turned down the chance of managing Aston Villa, a spokesman for the English Premier League said on Tuesday.
"Solskjær is no longer an alternative for Aston Villa. He has said no for family reasons," Bryan Doogan said.
I think the actual quote was:
"Solskjær is no longer an alternative for Aston Villa. He has said no for £amily $easons,"
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Yep, might as well lock it down! lol!
It was always going to be a long shot and I never pinned my hopes on him becoming manager as my preference has always been Lambert. The billionaire owner threw a wobbler during this saga so to me, its clear that during the talks yesterday he was pressurised into making this decision and afford a new contract to stay there another season as they have got into the champions league. Family reasons is a convenient excuse
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So much for getting someone in quickly. Oh well.
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Fuck it!
Can my name be reverted to AvFc4eVeR please?
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Good! cant believe you all got excited at the thought of a rookie manager. What we need is someone with proven ability to come in and sort this mess out.. not a novice.
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While we're changing names, may I have the -AV removed from my username?
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Good! cant believe you all got excited at the thought of a rookie manager. What we need is someone with proven ability to come in and sort this mess out.. not a novice.
Like McCarthy?
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Good! cant believe you all got excited at the thought of a rookie manager. What we need is someone with proven ability to come in and sort this mess out.. not a novice.
But who??
I am not at all excited about any of the other names that have been banded about. I dont want us to go down then 'safe pair of hands route' again!
Lets hope RL and PF have used this OGS thing as a smoke screen to get someone we hadnt even thought of that can sort us out and will excite us.
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don't bank on it
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Dowie? I didn't know he was interested.
He's my ITK. Can you imagine a day when he's not interested, stick £50.00 on at least.
I haven't got any money left. I've put it all on Bob Bradley. I'm beginning to regret it now.
I'll take a Big Issue off you, keep the change.
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Lets hope RL and PF have used this OGS thing as a smoke screen to get someone we hadnt even thought of that can sort us out and will excite us.
There's a lot of people who rely on some pretty crazy cloak and dagger stuff going on round here.
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OK, it's a blow, but lets move on.
OGS may, or may not, live to regret this. But I personally don't believe the 'family reasons' excuse.
I've always said Lambert was a good choice and stick by that, so i now hope we go for him.
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2 things...
We ballsed that one up by not just going for it and getting an offer over in a responsible time period after eh interview... (Although Randy may not have been impressed in the meeting?)
If we offered him a role now do you think he would reject us or is this him saying what the molde board want to hear as we have.. to be fair, as a club made it really unfair on him, sending a jet to pick him up in the middle of his season, then sending him back with no offer but leaving him in limbo with backers throwing toys out of pram etc!
Think we did a really bad and unfair job in that one!
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I know all this is coming from a Brian Doogan quote to a Norwegian media source. Would the main AVFC site not have updated us at this stage to concur with what Doogan said last night. This is straw clutching I know.....
If we had OGS on board, then we wouldn't be able to appoint the rogues gallery of possible suitors that are doing the rounds, McCarthy, Grayson etc.....
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Lets hope RL and PF have used this OGS thing as a smoke screen to get someone we hadnt even thought of that can sort us out and will excite us.
There's a lot of people who rely on some pretty crazy cloak and dagger stuff going on round here.
Part of being a Villa fan unfortunately
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Another day of guess work and gossip. I hope we dont make a pigs ear of this situation like we did last time. Straw/ Camels back springs to mind at the moment. No nasty surprises again please Mr Lerner.
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So we are back to a definite possible maybe again?
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If he had signed a contract extension then it would be on the Molde website, and it isn't.
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Only a matter of time before bob bradley is evens i reckon. :/
I dont think even PF could get away with unveiling Bob Bradley after categorically stating we were looking for someone young and vibrant
did he say young? I know he said vibrant but that means exactly nowt to me. I'm struggling to think of any managers i'd describe as vibrant.
Walter Smith. His sausages and pork pies are very good also.
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Another day of guess work and gossip. I hope we dont make a pigs ear of this situation like we did last time. Straw/ Camels back springs to mind at the moment. No nasty surprises again please Mr Lerner.
Anyone capable of appointing Alex McLeish is liable to do something just as stupid with the next Manager's appointment. Why is the Villa board so shit at decisions and pisses off the fans all the time? It's always has to be negative news that comes out - great drive for pushing up season ticket sales. The club is a PR disaster. Lerner and Faulkner OUT!!!
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What was all that shite with Kendrick giving us a link to an A-HA song via his twitter yesterday. Looks like he hasn't a clue as well as Jan Age Fjorttoft.
Another fcuking press conference for this afternoon up in Molde. If someone farts up there they must hold a press conference for it.
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If he had signed a contract extension then it would be on the Molde website, and it isn't.
Very interesting. Another rollercoaster day.
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I know all this is coming from a Brian Doogan quote to a Norwegian media source. Would the main AVFC site not have updated us at this stage to concur with what Doogan said last night. This is straw clutching I know.....
Why should the AVFC site update us on anything other than notification of a press conference (meaning an imminent appointment) or the appointment itself?
We have done 200 pages of speculation here and its been frustrating, funny, and fun in equal measure.
Randy Lerner and Villa officials will come in for flak for how this appears to be conducted and some will say it wouldnt have been like with Doug Ellis.
The fact that we can click away to try and pick up little snippets of real or imagined information shows how much things have changed since Dougs day. I mean we were virtually tracking by the minute the manager of a Norwegian league side getting on an internal flight and arriving for dinner just outside Oslo with his existing employer!
I am sure many past searches for a manager ( at all clubs) have had just as many up and downs. It was just that we would only hear about part of it through the TV and newspapers the next day. Then when it was sorted we were pretty much all left with our own thoughts at home or until we could talk about it with your mates in the pub.
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Walter Smith. His sausages and pork pies are very good also.
Very good or award winning? Is there a butcher anywhere in the UK that doesn't produce award winning sausages or pies? I would like the answer by 5.00pm please.
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Another press conference? Better pass the Hob Nobs then - I'm not moving anywhere through excitement.
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Walter Smith. His sausages and pork pies are very good also.
Very good or award winning? Is there a butcher anywhere in the UK that doesn't produce award winning sausages or pies? I would like the answer by 5.00pm please.
For it to be valid, they need to have been in business since Lee Longlands sale started.
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According to the agreement, Solskjær has agreed to ... commit himself to Molde FK for the 2012 and 2013 seasons, according to a report in the Dagbladet daily.
Solskjær is however reported to have secured a clause in the agreement that were Manchester United to come calling he would be allowed to leave in 2012. Furthermore the young coach would be allowed to speak with Premier League clubs next season on the proviso that financial compensation would be forthcoming.
Kjell Inge Røkke, together will fellow investor Bjørn Rune Gjelsten, have in return promised to stump up 10 million kroner to strengthen Molde FK's squad, according to Dagbladet.
Molde FK have announced that they will hold a press conference at 5pm on Wednesday to clarify the situation regarding the club, the investors and their sought after young manager.
"No enquiries will be answered before the press conference," the club declared in a statement on Wednesday morning.
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Well, I've jinxed CNZ and OGS with my username so far. Percy McCarthy please.
Best one so far, really made me laugh! As long as you don't break your jinx with this one...
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Its a shame BFR is 73....
absolutely loved our club
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Its a shame BFR is 73....
absolutely loved our club
John Terry and Luiz Suarez would be his first signings. The daft old racist.
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Its a shame BFR is 73....
absolutely loved our club
John Terry and Luiz Suarez would be his first signings. The daft old racist.
He wasn't a racist, he just understood dressing room humour, ask Andy Gray and Richard Keys they'll explain
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Like Gandalf and two Hobbits!
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I guess I better get my name changed back then "paul_e" please mod.
Really disappointed by this but he's the right type of manager so hopefully they'll find someone else similar, if the rumour is true that the advice came from Klinsmann I guess he'll have offered a few other names as well.
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Ok.. So my name now looks stupid. Would it be possible to have it changed back to TaxDodger please?
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Bullet dodged.
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Nigel Clough
(I went to school with him so I'm biased)
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"Nigel Clough".........be the first bit of good news Derby fans have had for a while.
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Malky Mackay at Cardiff has done a good job... League Cup Final and playoffs... Hughton by same measure
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Nigel Clough
(I went to school with him so I'm biased)
There's a name. Never thought of him. As good a call as someone like Grayson I think. Not done too bad with a club who have no money to spend. Obviously there are other names I'd like ahead of him, but it's not the worse shout (certainly not Southgate/McCarthy/Hoddle level).
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Hughton would be fun just to piss the noses off :}
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Hughton would be fun just to piss the noses off :}
Again
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Nigel Clough
(I went to school with him so I'm biased)
There's a name. Never thought of him. As good a call as someone like Grayson I think. Not done too bad with a club who have no money to spend. Obviously there are other names I'd like ahead of him, but it's not the worse shout (certainly not Southgate/McCarthy/Hoddle level).
Crossed my mind last time around, and I think I might even have suggested him on one of thre threads at the time. But somehow the 'fit' doesn't seem right now. Might be because he hasn't really kicked on from his first season at Derby.
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I know all this is coming from a Brian Doogan quote to a Norwegian media source. Would the main AVFC site not have updated us at this stage to concur with what Doogan said last night. This is straw clutching I know.....
Why should the AVFC site update us on anything other than notification of a press conference (meaning an imminent appointment) or the appointment itself?
We have done 200 pages of speculation here and its been frustrating, funny, and fun in equal measure.
Randy Lerner and Villa officials will come in for flak for how this appears to be conducted and some will say it wouldnt have been like with Doug Ellis.
The fact that we can click away to try and pick up little snippets of real or imagined information shows how much things have changed since Dougs day. I mean we were virtually tracking by the minute the manager of a Norwegian league side getting on an internal flight and arriving for dinner just outside Oslo with his existing employer!
I am sure many past searches for a manager ( at all clubs) have had just as many up and downs. It was just that we would only hear about part of it through the TV and newspapers the next day. Then when it was sorted we were pretty much all left with our own thoughts at home or until we could talk about it with your mates in the pub.
Exactly well said mate. Villa have said he was a number of targets we are looking at. OGS said he'd take it if offered. Then he said he wanted to and withdrew from the running. Villa have said it wasnt offered to him. HE didnt REJECT us, we DIDNT reject him. No blame should be put on Lerner and Faulkner for this. Just been blown up by media and social network outlets. If anything they should be applauded for their vision and thinking on the new manager search.
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I'd be nice if this process could have been done in private, but I suppose with the advent of social networks those days are gone.
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I know all this is coming from a Brian Doogan quote to a Norwegian media source. Would the main AVFC site not have updated us at this stage to concur with what Doogan said last night. This is straw clutching I know.....
Why should the AVFC site update us on anything other than notification of a press conference (meaning an imminent appointment) or the appointment itself?
We have done 200 pages of speculation here and its been frustrating, funny, and fun in equal measure.
Randy Lerner and Villa officials will come in for flak for how this appears to be conducted and some will say it wouldnt have been like with Doug Ellis.
The fact that we can click away to try and pick up little snippets of real or imagined information shows how much things have changed since Dougs day. I mean we were virtually tracking by the minute the manager of a Norwegian league side getting on an internal flight and arriving for dinner just outside Oslo with his existing employer!
I am sure many past searches for a manager ( at all clubs) have had just as many up and downs. It was just that we would only hear about part of it through the TV and newspapers the next day. Then when it was sorted we were pretty much all left with our own thoughts at home or until we could talk about it with your mates in the pub.
Exactly well said mate. Villa have said he was a number of targets we are looking at. OGS said he'd take it if offered. Then he said he wanted to and withdrew from the running. Villa have said it wasnt offered to him. HE didnt REJECT us, we DIDNT reject him. No blame should be put on Lerner and Faulkner for this. Just been blown up by media and social network outlets. If anything they should be applauded for their vision and thinking on the new manager search.
Yep, well said
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They should, but that vision needs to be carried forward to another target. I have very little knowledge of football outside of the UK though, so only know managers from seeing teams in different conversations, so for example the guy at Braga I remember having a decent football team when he was there.
Maybe there are other people doing just as well in other countries as Ole.
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for example the guy at Braga I remember having a decent football team when he was there.
Now 4th favourite at Skybet
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I know all this is coming from a Brian Doogan quote to a Norwegian media source. Would the main AVFC site not have updated us at this stage to concur with what Doogan said last night. This is straw clutching I know.....
Why should the AVFC site update us on anything other than notification of a press conference (meaning an imminent appointment) or the appointment itself?
We have done 200 pages of speculation here and its been frustrating, funny, and fun in equal measure.
Randy Lerner and Villa officials will come in for flak for how this appears to be conducted and some will say it wouldnt have been like with Doug Ellis.
The fact that we can click away to try and pick up little snippets of real or imagined information shows how much things have changed since Dougs day. I mean we were virtually tracking by the minute the manager of a Norwegian league side getting on an internal flight and arriving for dinner just outside Oslo with his existing employer!
I am sure many past searches for a manager ( at all clubs) have had just as many up and downs. It was just that we would only hear about part of it through the TV and newspapers the next day. Then when it was sorted we were pretty much all left with our own thoughts at home or until we could talk about it with your mates in the pub.
Exactly well said mate. Villa have said he was a number of targets we are looking at. OGS said he'd take it if offered. Then he said he wanted to and withdrew from the running. Villa have said it wasnt offered to him. HE didnt REJECT us, we DIDNT reject him. No blame should be put on Lerner and Faulkner for this. Just been blown up by media and social network outlets. If anything they should be applauded for their vision and thinking on the new manager search.
Yep, well said
Disagree. Shambolic as usual.
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Greg, I'm sorry I told you to fuck off. What I really meant to say is that you really ought to get off your arse and support the Villa, rather than taking a perverse pleasure in everything that goes wrong. I'd be able to tolerate your gloating at the latest setback if you had the courage to name a candidate who meets with your approval. It would not be so infuriating if you ever attended a match, or applauded the club for anything.
So I'm sorry I told you to fuck off. I hope you understand why I felt the need to tell you to fuck off, but it was wrong of me to use the words 'fuck off' to you.
Well done Damon. Top man.
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Don't matter. He's not coming. he was probably shit anyway. Move on.
What Damon said.
Is there any joy in your life at all?
I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
I'm not upset at all. To me, OGS sounded interesting but was never anything other than an inexperienced young coach who's done well for himself in a shit league. I'm not going to go all moist over that.
But the point of my post was to understand if you are always so mindbendingly miserable about everything? If your post count was really that high before it got reset it's probably only because no one can bear talk to you in real life. I'd have more fun listening to Smiths song on repeat.
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Don't matter. He's not coming. he was probably shit anyway. Move on.
What Damon said.
Is there any joy in your life at all?
I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
I'm not upset at all. To me, OGS sounded interesting but was never anything other than an inexperienced young coach who's done well for himself in a shit league. I'm not going to go all moist over that.
But the point of my post was to understand if you are always so mindbendingly miserable about everything? If your post count was really that high before it got reset it's probably only because no one can bear talk to you in real life. I'd have more fun listening to Smiths song on repeat.
how is being pleased we didn't get OGS miserable? Only from yours and Damon's point of view which is everyone should agree with you that OGS is brilliant or they get personally abused on here. Well sorry but judging from the poll there's a good 100 other people on here who weren't that bothered either. As for the post count another example of the pettyness on here. water off a ducks back..
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While we're changing names, may I have the -AV removed from my username?
The username JJ has already been taken.
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Don't matter. He's not coming. he was probably shit anyway. Move on.
What Damon said.
Is there any joy in your life at all?
I didnt want him adam so plenty currently, but if i had, i wouldn't have worked myself up into hysteria based on nothing and then got so disappointed i spent the time afterwards getting mardy with people like you and Damon. The club told you they were looking at more than one candidate, so did pelty. Its your own fault you're upset.
I'm not upset at all. To me, OGS sounded interesting but was never anything other than an inexperienced young coach who's done well for himself in a shit league. I'm not going to go all moist over that.
But the point of my post was to understand if you are always so mindbendingly miserable about everything? If your post count was really that high before it got reset it's probably only because no one can bear talk to you in real life. I'd have more fun listening to Smiths song on repeat.
how is being pleased we didn't get OGS miserable? Only from yours and Damon's point of view which is everyone should agree with you that OGS is brilliant or they get personally abused on here. Well sorry but judging from the poll there's a good 100 other people on here who weren't that bothered either. As for the post count another example of the pettyness on here. water off a ducks back..
So you are that miserable about everything then.
Good to know.
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well, if you want to see people who were miserable about everything the club did in the last 2 years, you can't find better examples than the GH/AM out lot.. So i suggest you ask them the same question Adam.
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They should, but that vision needs to be carried forward to another target. I have very little knowledge of football outside of the UK though, so only know managers from seeing teams in different conversations, so for example the guy at Braga I remember having a decent football team when he was there.
Maybe there are other people doing just as well in other countries as Ole.
Yes I think he's really important whoever else they're in for, is as exciting to the support as Ole was.
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What happened to your post count?
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What happened to your post count?
The new software means only interesting posts made by a member are counted now.
*sorry Greg!*
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What happened to your post count?
Don't know really. Anyway probably best not to go there as its not worth the grief or who'll flare up again.
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What happened to your post count?
The new software means only interesting posts made by a member are counted now.
*sorry Greg!*
In that case I am surprised that your are not on zero PWS?
Sorry sorry sorry didn't mean that. Please forgive me for this transgression...
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What happened to your post count?
Because times 3.12.83 reporting bb dayorder doubleplusungood refs unpersons rewrite fullwise upsub antefiling. Or something of that ilk.
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Joe_c, is that Norwegian for "oops"?
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What happened to your post count?
The new software means only interesting posts made by a member are counted now.
*sorry Greg!*
In that case I am surprised that your are not on zero PWS?
Sorry sorry sorry didn't mean that. Please forgive me for this transgression...
And yet at least one post was interesting enough for you to copy the exact same joke. Imitation is the sincerest and all that.
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Like everyone else i was caught up in the Ole-euphoria, but why?Young, upwardly mobile, and playing good football.
Based on what evidence? 18 months in a league equivalent to the Blue Sq , what else.I was disappointed last night, but the more i think about it the more i think we have been lucky.
He obviously has no bottle, and his lack of experience/knowledge would have led to problems with some of our more senior players.
For me a disciplinarian, who has a record for developing young potential into great players, and playing good football is the answer..........step foward Mr Van Gaal.
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OLE Gunnar Solskjaer has confirmed that he withdrew from the running to be the next Aston Villa boss because of family reasons.
The ex-Manchester United hero who decided to stay in his current role as manager of Norwegian champions, Molde, outlined his reasons to Villa owner Randy Lerner on Tuesday morning and revealed at a press conference this afternoon what was said.
I had a very open, honest and very nice dialogue with Mr Lerner and he really understood my decision, said the former forward..
Solskjaer was reluctant to make an immediate move to England with his wife, Silje, and three young children and therefore pulled out of the running.
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;D Just thought I would post this. I bet a few have a go at Randy Lerner for letting us all debate about 80 pages all day Tuesday about when he was arriving. ;D
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People still won't believe it and will think it's all a big conspiracy.
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http://tinyurl.com/csjpg3f
Laughter and claims of family values and friendship characterized a highly unusual press conference on Wednesday starring Norwegian football icon Ole Gunnar Solskjær and his rich uncles at Molde Football Club. He and club benefactor Kjell Inge Røkke made it clear that they and all involved in the club had come to terms again after a week of turmoil and bitter words.......
Solskjær, meanwhile, promised that he would never put Røkke, Gjelsten, the club, his family or himself in such a position again. If, or more likely when, another club calls, Solskjær said Ill call Kjell Inge, and we can have another dinner.
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I feel the need to be angry, but I am not sure at who. As I dont have a specific target I am going to direct my rage generally at Scandinavia.
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OLE Gunnar Solskjær has confirmed that he withdrew from the running to be the next Aston Villa boss because of family reasons.
The ex-Manchester United hero who decided to stay in his current role as manager of Norwegian champions, Molde, outlined his reasons to Villa owner Randy Lerner on Tuesday morning and revealed at a press conference this afternoon what was said.
I had a very open, honest and very nice dialogue with Mr Lerner and he really understood my decision, said the former forward..
Solskjær was reluctant to make an immediate move to England with his wife, Silje, and three young children and therefore pulled out of the running.
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;D Just thought I would post this. I bet a few have a go at Randy Lerner for letting us all debate about 80 pages all day Tuesday about when he was arriving. ;D
Furthermore, the various Mystery Men must not be privy to this as it was still 'all on OGS' into yesterday evening.
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I dont blame OGS whatsoever...a beautiful picturesque small town with a comfortable relatively stress free life or the grim landscape of Birmingham with a very stressful job. He obviously isnt short of a penny so money isnt a motivational factor so cant blame him for staying put and getting his first experience of Champions League football as a manager. Fairplay and good luck to him.
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I told you. Wife's friends come round for coffee and can't believe she would go to a place full of dirt and gangsters. It's Unsworth revisited.
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There's probably video footage of that press conference where OGS is blinking SOS.
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I am not sure who advised RL to go for OGS when he did , surely with the mid season break coming at the end of May that would have been the best time to make our move , it all appeared too rushed , timing is everything and I am afraid RL and PF appear to have this wrong.
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What happened to your post count?
Because times 3.12.83 reporting bb dayorder doubleplusungood refs unpersons rewrite fullwise upsub antefiling. Or something of that ilk.
I love it! (I'm currently re-reading Orwell ).
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I am not sure who advised RL to go for OGS when he did , surely with the mid season break coming at the end of May that would have been the best time to make our move , it all appeared too rushed , timing is everything and I am afraid RL and PF appear to have this wrong.
Yes, and everyone would not harang Randy for 'dithering' by not giving them a manager until next month? He only sacked the Scottish manager 9 days ago but you'd be forgiven for thinking its 3 months by the reaction on here. Besides I can't see how timing would change his family situation and desire not to uproot them.
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I am not sure who advised RL to go for OGS when he did ,
Yes, and everyone would not harang Randy for 'dithering' by not giving them a manager until next month? He only sacked the Scottish manager 9 days ago but you'd be forgiven for thinking its 3 months by the reaction on here. Besides I can't see how timing would change his family situation and desire not to uproot them.
It was that German chap.
Name will come...Klinnsman. Or so several ITKers have said, over the last week.
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
If I was him i'd have stayed there. Come to think it, even if it was me i'd have stayed there.
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
If I was him i'd have stayed there. Come to think it, even if it was me i'd have stayed there.
I said the same the night we were first linked properly, watching that documentary, and how idyllic his life is out there, I would have stayed put. Life comes before work, especially with kids settled and happiness in your surroundings.
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
It's understandable of course and he is right. But it is very frustrating for us and I'm sure also for PF/RL. They really thought they had pulled a stroke of genius in approaching him. It all seemed perfect and ready to happen.
It's a kick in the stomach. What's worse is this inescapable sense I have had since last night that we'll be looking back in ten or fifteen years and asking ourselves 'what might have been?'. I have no doubt but that at some point we will have to watch him be a success at another PL club and it will hurt.
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
If I was him i'd have stayed there. Come to think it, even if it was me i'd have stayed there.
Bet he hasn't got Swans nesting at the bottom of his garden though as he ?
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
If I was him i'd have stayed there. Come to think it, even if it was me i'd have stayed there.
No. He has crabs nesting in...........
Bet he hasn't got Swans nesting at the bottom of his garden though as he ?
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
It's understandable of course and he is right. But it is very frustrating for us and I'm sure also for PF/RL. They really thought they had pulled a stroke of genius in approaching him. It all seemed perfect and ready to happen.
It's a kick in the stomach. What's worse is this inescapable sense I have had since last night that we'll be looking back in ten or fifteen years and asking ourselves 'what might have been?'. I have no doubt but that at some point we will have to watch him be a success at another PL club and it will hurt.
Oh, only at the Villa. We are a set of fans that are destined to suffer more than most.
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So he either stays in beautiful scenic Molde with its good schools and clean streets until he becomes a failure or becomes bored with shooting fish in a barrel, then what?
"You know darling, I really should have tried to make the grade in England" "Okay Ole, let's see if we can find somewhere with nice landscape, good schools, no crime, easy access to good shopping, close to a major airport so we can pop home to see the grandparents" "Here's a vacancy darling 'Manager wanted Wycombe Wanderers' Perfect. I will e mail them right away."
What it has boiled down to is that we were prepared to take a chance on him but he was not prepared to take a chance on us. To have made the grade in the Prem would have required a level of single minded commitment from him he is clearly unable or unwilling to deliver.
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So he either stays in beautiful scenic Molde with its good schools and clean streets until he becomes a failure or becomes bored with shooting fish in a barrel, then what?
"You know darling, I really should have tried to make the grade in England" "Okay Ole, let's see if we can find somewhere with nice landscape, good schools, no crime, easy access to good shopping, close to a major airport so we can pop home to see the grandparents" "Here's a vacancy darling 'Manager wanted Wycombe Wanderers' Perfect. I will e mail them right away."
What it has boiled down to is that we were prepared to take a chance on him but he was not prepared to take a chance on us. To have made the grade in the Prem would have required a level of single minded commitment from him he is clearly unable or unwilling to deliver.
Spot on there for me Brian
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Maybe the timing was just wrong and that's all it was. He's only been back over there 12 months and i think he wants to win Molde the title again, maybe to show everyone it was no fluke or that he's not a one season wonder. I don't think he'll see out his contract there though.
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Sat down with the family and talked about it is a standard cop out.
In the career of any man or woman who wants to get to the very top there will come a time when he or she has to say to the spouse and children "this is something I must do because I may not get the chance again. I am sorry for all the disruption and discomfort you will be put through but I will try to make it up to you".
Agreeing to sit down and talk about it is like when somebody says they are "99 percent certain". It's code for I have not got the balls to come out with it so we must have this verbal diversion.
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
What a load of bolx...thats exactly what any Man Ure would say and would like to believe.
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
Bollox! On the basis that moving directly from Molde to the Man U job is unlikely to happen. Where is the Red Nosed old bastard proposing is a more suitable interim club before he steps into his shoes?
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
What a load of bolx...thats exactly what any Man Ure would say and would like to believe.
United fans are full of shit, it is a well known issue.
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
What a load of bolx...thats exactly what any Man Ure would say and would like to believe.
United fans are full of shit, it is a well known issue.
United fans live in London!
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
if he's destined for Molde Trafford ( see what i did there) he will have to prove himself somewhere else first, he wont go from Molde FC to Man Utd straight away, to big a jump.
some thought it was for us, but we are willing to take the risk as we are at a low ebb at the moment
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Fergie's job is like Benny Hill's will. Everybody is on a promise.
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Sat down with the family and talked about it is a standard cop out.
In the career of any man or woman who wants to get to the very top there will come a time when he or she has to say to the spouse and children "this is something I must do because I may not get the chance again. I am sorry for all the disruption and discomfort you will be put through but I will try to make it up to you".
Agreeing to sit down and talk about it is like when somebody says they are "99 percent certain". It's code for I have not got the balls to come out with it so we must have this verbal diversion.
Depends what you class as getting on. He is a multi millionaire so money is not an issue, he reached the top of his playing career and he has only just started out in management. I imagine he has a young family who must take priority which lucky for him he is able to do.
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Spoke to mate from manchester about Ole..He claims word is Fergie told him to blank us as a poor career move; especially as he has him in mind to replace himself when finally retires. Football!!
if he's destined for Molde Trafford ( see what i did there) he will have to prove himself somewhere else first, he wont go from Molde FC to Man Utd straight away, to big a jump.
some thought it was for us, but we are willing to take the risk as we are at a low ebb at the moment
I read the posts in 'Red Cafe' the other night and they were about 60-40 in favour of him taking the job at Villa.
The ones saying good move were being very complimentary about Villa. The ones against were more about staying in Molde as it was too early, etc. Hardly anybody was saying he would be the next MU manager, which was interesting - general feeling was that he would have to have more 'big club' (including Villa in that) experience before the owners would consider him for the role.
They seemed to think that would be in about 10 years' time! (after Mourinho...)
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He sat down with his family on Monday and they all told him they wanted to stay in Norway. In fairness, even if he wanted to come, the right thing to do at that point is to stay.
If I was him i'd have stayed there. Come to think it, even if it was me i'd have stayed there.
Bet he hasn't got Swans nesting at the bottom of his garden though as he ?
Well of course not .... he's not Brendon Rodgers! ;)
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To Villa 74, fair enough. You think it'd be acceptable to appoint a man who described us as a 'half arsed club that used to be famous' as manager. I disagree.
If you want to rake over the meaning of my 'club our standing' comment fair enough. We can agree to disagree with you there. But I cannot agree with you that somebody who could say that about any club could ever be considered suitable for the job of manager at the same club he had run down.
Regardless of our standing, even if we were a Wigan Athletic supporter, I would not want anybody who describes us in such terms to be ever considered a suitable managerial appointment.
Fair enough we have differing opinions. What I would say is he was trying to protect his club at the time not really that different to the Barry to Liverpool saga. In the heat of the moment he made a remark that hurt some people's feelings! Get over it that's life. That doesn't mean he is the wrong bloke to manager the villa. I like the fact he & his teams fight their corner, something lacking up the villa for the last couple of years.
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I never bought into this going into football management after a successful and lucrative playing career just to pass the time and a reason to get out of the house. Any man or woman worth a light does what they do to the best of their ability. If they decide to run a whelk stall they want the best whelk stall in the civilized world if they go into football management they want to be the very best they can and pit themselves against the best. The children's education and the view from the bedroom windows has to be subservient to that ambition there is no compromise.
Redknapp has money coming out of every orifice of his and his dog's body but you can be sure he wanted that England job.
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The same family that lived in England 18 mths ago?
He bottled it, and tbh the more i think about it , it would have been a hell of a gamble, and probably too big a gamble.At least Lambert, Martinez and Rodgers have prem experience.
Tony Morley was worried about his lack of expereience, and i think he might have been right.
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Any man or woman worth a light does what they do to the best of their ability.
And if you add 'being a father' to your list, he'd be making the right decision.
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Why, oh why, oh fucking why, do we have pages and pages of posts about what Ferguson may or may not have said? Even if it WASN'T just made up crap, why should anyone care?
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Why, oh why, oh fucking why, do we have pages and pages of posts about what Ferguson may or may not have said? Even if it WASN'T just made up crap, why should anyone care?
3 posts ?
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Why, oh why, oh fucking why, do we have pages and pages of posts about what Ferguson may or may not have said? Even if it WASN'T just made up crap, why should anyone care?
3 posts ?
I wasn't just referring to to you.
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He's been more or less blackmailed by the two investors to stay IMO. Leave now like this and we'll kill the club, do you want that as your legacy?
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Why, oh why, oh fucking why, do we have pages and pages of posts about what Ferguson may or may not have said? Even if it WASN'T just made up crap, why should anyone care?
3 posts ?
I wasn't just referring to to you.
i know, i only posted 1, but i can only see 3 in total, unless its from earlier on
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He's been more or less blackmailed by the two investors to stay IMO. Leave now like this and we'll kill the club, do you want that as your legacy?
Yep, and having got away with it, they'll do it to him again whoever comes calling next too!
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Being a good father is more than fetching and taking your kids to and from school. Being a good parent is a two way street. You want the best for your children and in return they want the best for you. W H Auden wrote about it perfectly in his piece The Pram In The Hall which examines one's duty to your talent balanced against your domestic duties.
I had an absolutely magnificent father. When he was told that he would not be getting a retirement pension from his factory because the company secretary had embezzled the contributions, he took off his overalls, put on his coat, drew all his savings from the post office, went to Navigation Street, got on a Midland Red bus, went to deepest Shropshire, got off the bus and bought the first cottage he came to in Bent Lawnt which was for sale. The first time my mother saw it was from the cab of the removal van. There was a man.
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The 'family wishes' thing might very well be true, but I have my doubts.
People comparing Birmingham to his current abode are missing the point somewhat. He wouldn't have been relocating to Bromford. The mega rich move in different circles, he could have had the family residence closer to Millionaires Row (or Alderley Edge, as it's otherwise known) in Cheshire if the wife and kids felt more comfortable up there. His kids grew up there afterall.
The likes of Friedel, Alan Wright and McGrath regularly made the commute in from that neck of the woods, and it didn't seem to affect their performance or commitment. Alternatively, he could have rented a place in Brum or Sutton, as many have done. He is wealthy enough that the wife and kids could go back to Norway as often as they liked, if the scenery and the fjords were such a big pull for them.
No, I think it's a football decision, which may or may not have been influenced by some kindly words from Uncle Awex, but -as another poster mentioned- the way he's been left with his dick in the wind since the news broke last week is just as likely a factor. All that aggro and press intrusion -and for a club who didn't even offer him a position at the end of it. He -like us- was told he was just one of a number of candidates.
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He's been more or less blackmailed by the two investors to stay IMO. Leave now like this and we'll kill the club, do you want that as your legacy?
Or maybe they've just given him a massive payrise?
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No, I think it's a football decision, which may or may not have been influenced by some kindly words from Uncle Awex, but -as another poster mentioned- the way he's been left with his dick in the wind since the news broke last week is just as likely a factor. All that aggro and press intrusion -and for a club who didn't even offer him a position at the end of it. He -like us- was told he was just one of a number of candidates.
Spot on.
And yet we've had posters saying 'we've played it brilliantly'.
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I never bought into this going into football management after a successful and lucrative playing career just to pass the time and a reason to get out of the house. Any man or woman worth a light does what they do to the best of their ability. If they decide to run a whelk stall they want the best whelk stall in the civilized world if they go into football management they want to be the very best they can and pit themselves against the best. The children's education and the view from the bedroom windows has to be subservient to that ambition there is no compromise.
Redknapp has money coming out of every orifice of his and his dog's body but you can be sure he wanted that England job.
Brian, Redknapp is in his mid 60's so he probably won't get another shot at the England job. OGS is only 39 so he can decide to get a bit more experience in management before he takes a bigger job. Next season he will have European experience (even if they don't get past the knock outs) and will have to deal with building upon a successful team. Yes, he would have had a more prestigious job with us but it could quite easily blow up in his face (and ours as well). AVB's stock has fallen considerably after he took on the Chelsea job when he was ready for it.
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Being a good father is more than fetching and taking your kids to and from school. Being a good parent is a two way street. You want the best for your children and in return they want the best for you. W H Auden wrote about it perfectly in his piece The Pram In The Hall which examines one's duty to your talent balanced against your domestic duties.
I had an absolutely magnificent father. When he was told that he would not be getting a retirement pension from his factory because the company secretary had embezzled the contributions, he took off his overalls, put on his coat, drew all his savings from the post office, went to Navigation Street, got on a Midland Red bus, went to deepest Shropshire, got off the bus and bought the first cottage he came to in Bent Lawnt which was for sale. The first time my mother saw it was from the cab of the removal van. There was a man.
I understand, though I'd not look to Auden for advice on fatherhood.
He's got what sounds like an idyllic life with his young family, and time is probably on his side. I just wouldn't be as quick as some to condemn him for a lack of ambition.
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So he either stays in beautiful scenic Molde with its good schools and clean streets until he becomes a failure or becomes bored with shooting fish in a barrel, then what?
"You know darling, I really should have tried to make the grade in England" "Okay Ole, let's see if we can find somewhere with nice landscape, good schools, no crime, easy access to good shopping, close to a major airport so we can pop home to see the grandparents" "Here's a vacancy darling 'Manager wanted Wycombe Wanderers' Perfect. I will e mail them right away."
What it has boiled down to is that we were prepared to take a chance on him but he was not prepared to take a chance on us. To have made the grade in the Prem would have required a level of single minded commitment from him he is clearly unable or unwilling to deliver.
Spot on there for me Brian
Has anybody had it confirmed we were willing to take a chance on him? Surely, us considering other candidates after we had spoken to him shows we're not really up for taking chances?
Don't blame him at all for ruling himself out. We met, chatted each other up, then we left him hanging while his soon-to-be ex-club gave him hell.
Fuck that shit would be my response too.
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I never bought into this going into football management after a successful and lucrative playing career just to pass the time and a reason to get out of the house. Any man or woman worth a light does what they do to the best of their ability. If they decide to run a whelk stall they want the best whelk stall in the civilized world if they go into football management they want to be the very best they can and pit themselves against the best. The children's education and the view from the bedroom windows has to be subservient to that ambition there is no compromise.
Redknapp has money coming out of every orifice of his and his dog's body but you can be sure he wanted that England job.
Brian, Redknapp is in his mid 60's so he probably won't get another shot at the England job. OGS is only 39 so he can decide to get a bit more experience in management before he takes a bigger job. Next season he will have European experience (even if they don't get past the knock outs) and will have to deal with building upon a successful team. Yes, he would have had a more prestigious job with us but it could quite easily blow up in his face (and ours as well). AVB's stock has fallen considerably after he took on the Chelsea job when he was ready for it.
Am I missing something here? Has it been discovered that we offered him the job? Or are we slagging him for not accepting a job that wasn't offered.
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I never bought into this going into football management after a successful and lucrative playing career just to pass the time and a reason to get out of the house. Any man or woman worth a light does what they do to the best of their ability. If they decide to run a whelk stall they want the best whelk stall in the civilized world if they go into football management they want to be the very best they can and pit themselves against the best. The children's education and the view from the bedroom windows has to be subservient to that ambition there is no compromise.
Redknapp has money coming out of every orifice of his and his dog's body but you can be sure he wanted that England job.
Brian, Redknapp is in his mid 60's so he probably won't get another shot at the England job. OGS is only 39 so he can decide to get a bit more experience in management before he takes a bigger job. Next season he will have European experience (even if they don't get past the knock outs) and will have to deal with building upon a successful team. Yes, he would have had a more prestigious job with us but it could quite easily blow up in his face (and ours as well). AVB's stock has fallen considerably after he took on the Chelsea job when he was ready for it.
Am I missing something here? Has it been discovered that we offered him the job? Or are we slagging him for not accepting a job that wasn't offered.
I'm just replying on the hypothetical why someone of his age might have ruled themselves out of the possible job which is not about lack of ambition.
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You can see the blind panic on here and other Villa related messageboards.
TSM has only been gone just over a week, and - much as it might have had some of our lot foaming at the mouth- they could have said that there is no rush, they will take their time and have someone in place for the start of pre season training.
I accept a fair chunk of this is hindsight = 20/20 vision but:
If OGS was near or top of the list, the preliminaries could have been taken care of via phonecalls and actual meetings conducted after the break in their season on the 28th. It seems the biggest part of Molde's grievance in this matter is the timing- that he was flying off to Brum when he should have been preparing for their game last weekend.
That timing - and their mention of other candidates- looks like it's lost them their no.1 pick.
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The trouble with that Kevin is that there is some rush. There is far too much to do to wait for the start of pre-season to appoint a manager. It needs sorting. We were a light squad last season, as of now we're already three down. I really don't see 'taking their time' and 'no rush' as an option, the Euros will slow things down enough as well as far as the transfer market is concerned, and also, any decent further Bosman's need to be snapped up now if they're going to be.
Ultimately OGS bailed before knowing if he was going to get an offer, on that basis was he ever the right man for us? Yes, I really wanted him to get the job, but clearly he didn't want it enough! Not criticising him or the board really, it's just how it panned out!
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Having someone on place by the start of pre season training doesn't necessarily mean he'd arrive in the day before. It would have just meant that -although there might be a desire to get someone in ASAP- it didn't need to be the 2nd/3rd week in May. Setting expectations, and all that.
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Fair enough, I take your point, but I can't really chew the board out for what they've done, other than perhaps to not follow up the meeting more quickly, but maybe they had their doubts after that meeting etc etc. It's finished now anyway isn't it? Onwards and upwards!
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Just noticed the number of people who voted on this, no wonder it went tits up! Lol. 666.
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well if we're searching in the free transfers bargain bucket we better get a move on choosing the manager because unlike contracted players the good ones tend to get signed up fast and they'll all be gone. Not much cop if you can't even tell them who the manager is or if he even wants you. See the last poor sod we signed.
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In the meantime, who is advising on players being released?
Much of the bitterness is because people have believed all the bullshit and plunged money on it. I have £10 on OGS and have about £40 on Lambert. Once the real target is made clear, we will swoop with another wedge; probably a fiver.
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I'm pretty sure in that docu on OGS at Molde he mentioned how his kids miss Manchester even more than he does and gave the impression of being keen to return.
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No, I think it's a football decision, which may or may not have been influenced by some kindly words from Uncle Awex, but -as another poster mentioned- the way he's been left with his dick in the wind since the news broke last week is just as likely a factor. All that aggro and press intrusion -and for a club who didn't even offer him a position at the end of it. He -like us- was told he was just one of a number of candidates.
Spot on.
And yet we've had posters saying 'we've played it brilliantly'.
We did. We didn't leak the news of Randy's plane landing in Norway. It was a Villa fan that leaked that story so you could argue all of the attention that followed it could very well had screwed the deal. Had this all been done behind the scenes because nobody knew about it, then he might not have felt the immense pressure of it becoming very public. We also had no role in the way Molde acted or indeed their investors. We identified a target and wanted to get to know if he was interested in the job. We never offered him the job and he backed out so he wouldn't have to officially turn us down.
How else should the club go about identifying targets and talking to them? What they cannot control is people doing all they can to find out about the whereabouts of Faulkner or the Chairman in his process, and in doing so quite possibly having an adverse affect on us getting our desired target.
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As we found out at the time of the takeover, Randy knew all about The Trees' plane-spotting exploits.
We could have done all the sounding out by phone, the face-to-face stuff that happened on Friday should have only taken place when we knew we were to offer him the job.
As it was, he was left to face the wrath of his club without even a concrete offer to steel him against it.
So due to this 'process' of interviewing multiple candidates, we have missed out on one of our leading picks, and quite possibly put off others who have watched the whole sorry saga unfold.
In terms of public perception (and let's not forget, the public includes other candidates), we now look amateurish, embarrassed and maybe slightly desperate. All because we put ourselves in the position of being snubbed by someone who wasn't even offered the job.
Anyone who thinks we 'played it brilliantly' no doubt thinks that we should now have 'informal chats' with Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez, who will all care not a jot about spoiling their relationships with their present chairmen, players and fans - well worth risking for a one-in-three/four chance at managing the Villa, but not worth risking for the Liverpool job in the case of Rodgers.
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As we found out at the time of the takeover, Randy knew all about The Trees' plane-spotting exploits.
We could have done all the sounding out by phone, the face-to-face stuff that happened on Friday should have only taken place when we knew we were to offer him the job.
As it was, he was left to face the wrath of his club without even a concrete offer to steel him against it.
So due to this 'process' of interviewing multiple candidates, we have missed out on one of our leading picks, and quite possibly put off others who have watched the whole sorry saga unfold.
In terms of public perception (and let's not forget, the public includes other candidates), we now look amateurish, embarrassed and maybe slightly desperate. All because we put ourselves in the position of being snubbed by someone who wasn't even offered the job.
Anyone who thinks we 'played it brilliantly' no doubt thinks that we should now have 'informal chats' with Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez, who will all care not a jot about spoiling their relationships with their present chairmen, players and fans - well worth risking for a one-in-three/four chance at managing the Villa, but not worth risking for the Liverpool job in the case of Rodgers.
How do you know we weren't already talking to anyone else?
Didn't we release a statement at the time all the OGS news broke that he was one of a number of candidates. Surely for any job you HAVE to interview as many people as you see fit, to make an informed decision. No-one knows everything that is going on, or everyone who is being interviewed.
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As we found out at the time of the takeover, Randy knew all about The Trees' plane-spotting exploits.
We could have done all the sounding out by phone, the face-to-face stuff that happened on Friday should have only taken place when we knew we were to offer him the job.
As it was, he was left to face the wrath of his club without even a concrete offer to steel him against it.
So due to this 'process' of interviewing multiple candidates, we have missed out on one of our leading picks, and quite possibly put off others who have watched the whole sorry saga unfold.
In terms of public perception (and let's not forget, the public includes other candidates), we now look amateurish, embarrassed and maybe slightly desperate. All because we put ourselves in the position of being snubbed by someone who wasn't even offered the job.
Anyone who thinks we 'played it brilliantly' no doubt thinks that we should now have 'informal chats' with Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez, who will all care not a jot about spoiling their relationships with their present chairmen, players and fans - well worth risking for a one-in-three/four chance at managing the Villa, but not worth risking for the Liverpool job in the case of Rodgers.
Who can argue with such ironclad logic?
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I don't think this democratic interviewing of candidates works very well in the world of football. There's too much at stake and as others have said, the impact on other clubs and fans is significant. It makes us look daft when targets don't come off. Liverpool are doing the same in their own American way.
One thing Ellis was good at was identifying his targets and getting them with the minimum of fuss, albeit that the desperation for news and the internet makes that much harder these days.
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The ones who are coming out of this worst of all are the inveterate moaners who get a perverse delight in slagging off everything the club does.
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But we don't have a clue what else has been done behind the season, and are judging the whole process on 1 interview/ chat. We sent the plane to try and do the right thing by Molde FFS, so that OGS was here and back quickly. It went a bit tits up due to the plane being parked over night and not just dropping in and coming back, and that in this day and age flight tails are easily tracked.
For all we know, OGS may not even have been first choice. If we appoint someone truly shit, then throw some mud, but until then I just think we are being critical of something that we don't know enough about. I am taking heart that OGS was the type of manager they want to talk to and hopefully someone good is on the way.
Prays.
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But realistically, after making an absolute mess of it twice the last thing the twins were going to do was to appoint the first person they approached. They owe it to the club to interview several candidates that they identified fitted the current criteria. Even if they had offered OGS the post on Friday and broadly agreed the package with his agent and wife present they could never legislate for the furore that developed once he returned home. How many times have we been caught up in the euphoria of the moment and built castles in the air only to return to a more objective, measured assessment of a situation a day or two later. OGS might well havew taken the job if offered on Friday last, gone home, and then met with the wrath of the Molde board and investors and changed his mind,. A struggling premiership giant with a demanding and at times hostile fan base and little money to invest v the idylic Norewegian fjords, further investment and the Champions League?. As it was, he made that sort of decision witjhout actually being offered the job. Sometimes shit happens that is always beyond your control. I think if he had impetuously taken the job in the heat of the moment last week he would have been talked back out of it and we would have looked really silly
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The ones who are coming out of this worst of all are the inveterate moaners who get a perverse delight in slagging off everything the club does.
I hold my hands up as being a miserable moaner but don't take delight in slagging the club off. As Ozz has just pointed out I also take heart that OGS is the type of manager we are after. But after the way the club rubbed shit in my eyes by appointing Mcliesh then proclaimed he met all their criteria I really do worry.
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I don't think this democratic interviewing of candidates works very well in the world of football. There's too much at stake and as others have said, the impact on other clubs and fans is significant. It makes us look daft when targets don't come off. Liverpool are doing the same in their own American way.
One thing Ellis was good at was identifying his targets and getting them with the minimum of fuss, albeit that the desperation for news and the internet makes that much harder these days.
You call Brian Little being injuncted by his old club, BFR's double change of mind and "Does anyone know who this is?" after being turned down by the manager of Bristol Rovers the minimum of fuss?
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I can't see how this could have been avoided without having an experienced operator connected to the decision making process, Faulkner and Lerner aren't going to have enough knowledge of the candidates to simply give the job to one of them without meeting them all, that comes with experience. I don't blame them for wanting to meet and chat with a few fellas before agreeing to pay them 2m and give them a shitload of transfer cash.
A little patience is called for.
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Fair enough PW, as long as we are prepared to accept fishing in a pool of managers who feel they have very little to lose.
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I can't see how this could have been avoided without having an experienced operator connected to the decision making process, Faulkner and Lerner aren't going to have enough knowledge of the candidates to simply give the job to one of them without meeting them all, that comes with experience. I don't blame them for wanting to meet and chat with a few fellas before agreeing to pay them 2m and give them a shitload of transfer cash.
A little patience is called for.
I agree with you. Its all very frustrating but patience is needed. The only worrying thing is after last summer we plumped for AM and there is always this nagging feeling they will do something similar.
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As we found out at the time of the takeover, Randy knew all about The Trees' plane-spotting exploits.
We could have done all the sounding out by phone, the face-to-face stuff that happened on Friday should have only taken place when we knew we were to offer him the job.
As it was, he was left to face the wrath of his club without even a concrete offer to steel him against it.
So due to this 'process' of interviewing multiple candidates, we have missed out on one of our leading picks, and quite possibly put off others who have watched the whole sorry saga unfold.
In terms of public perception (and let's not forget, the public includes other candidates), we now look amateurish, embarrassed and maybe slightly desperate. All because we put ourselves in the position of being snubbed by someone who wasn't even offered the job.
Anyone who thinks we 'played it brilliantly' no doubt thinks that we should now have 'informal chats' with Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez, who will all care not a jot about spoiling their relationships with their present chairmen, players and fans - well worth risking for a one-in-three/four chance at managing the Villa, but not worth risking for the Liverpool job in the case of Rodgers.
How do you know we weren't already talking to anyone else?
Didn't we release a statement at the time all the OGS news broke that he was one of a number of candidates. Surely for any job you HAVE to interview as many people as you see fit, to make an informed decision. No-one knows everything that is going on, or everyone who is being interviewed.
Well, if we take what pelty and the club are saying, we do know that we are talking to other candidates. That, to me, is the problem.
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As we found out at the time of the takeover, Randy knew all about The Trees' plane-spotting exploits.
We could have done all the sounding out by phone, the face-to-face stuff that happened on Friday should have only taken place when we knew we were to offer him the job.
As it was, he was left to face the wrath of his club without even a concrete offer to steel him against it.
So due to this 'process' of interviewing multiple candidates, we have missed out on one of our leading picks, and quite possibly put off others who have watched the whole sorry saga unfold.
In terms of public perception (and let's not forget, the public includes other candidates), we now look amateurish, embarrassed and maybe slightly desperate. All because we put ourselves in the position of being snubbed by someone who wasn't even offered the job.
Anyone who thinks we 'played it brilliantly' no doubt thinks that we should now have 'informal chats' with Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez, who will all care not a jot about spoiling their relationships with their present chairmen, players and fans - well worth risking for a one-in-three/four chance at managing the Villa, but not worth risking for the Liverpool job in the case of Rodgers.
Who can argue with such ironclad logic?
Not you by the look of it.
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The ones who are coming out of this worst of all are the inveterate moaners who get a perverse delight in slagging off everything the club does.
You don't mean me surely Brian? I'm in the happy-clapper Ultras.
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As we found out at the time of the takeover, Randy knew all about The Trees' plane-spotting exploits.
We could have done all the sounding out by phone, the face-to-face stuff that happened on Friday should have only taken place when we knew we were to offer him the job.
As it was, he was left to face the wrath of his club without even a concrete offer to steel him against it.
So due to this 'process' of interviewing multiple candidates, we have missed out on one of our leading picks, and quite possibly put off others who have watched the whole sorry saga unfold.
In terms of public perception (and let's not forget, the public includes other candidates), we now look amateurish, embarrassed and maybe slightly desperate. All because we put ourselves in the position of being snubbed by someone who wasn't even offered the job.
Anyone who thinks we 'played it brilliantly' no doubt thinks that we should now have 'informal chats' with Lambert, Rodgers and Martinez, who will all care not a jot about spoiling their relationships with their present chairmen, players and fans - well worth risking for a one-in-three/four chance at managing the Villa, but not worth risking for the Liverpool job in the case of Rodgers.
Who can argue with such ironclad logic?
Not you by the look of it.
Let's hear your version of it then Pelty.
Please leave out any reference to Lerner having a Villa tattoo on his ankle and finishing 4th, I mean 5th next season.
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How do we know that OGS wasn't 'unoficially' offered the job and wanted time to talk it over with his family? Given that the world and his wife knew we had spoken to him what else could the club do but trot out the other candidates line to avoid making it clear that, if OGS did turn the job down, whoever was eventually appointed was clearly not first choice?
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job. How did OGS become the 'leading pick'? All of this rumour, speculation, euphoria, anger and disappointment has been generated, expanded exponentially and kettled within a couple of message boards.
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How do we know that OGS wasn't 'unoficially' offered the job and wanted time to talk it over with his family? Given that the world and his wife knew we had spoken to him what else could the club do but trot out the other candidates line to avoid making it clear that, if OGS did turn the job down, whoever was eventually appointed was clearly not first choice?
I think his answers to the three questions of the Molde board were quite telling, particularly as he thought that conversation was strictly confidential.
To paraphrase: 'I will travel immediately if an offer is made, taking my two coaches and the best player'.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job.
Then why is that so rare in football? Didn't even happen for the England job this time, and that's the only job where it usually does.
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Edit: quote fail.
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The only person who matters in this process is Randy Lerner. It is after all his money that will pay the wages of the new manager whoever it may be. So it doesnt matter one jot what any poster on the many forums thinks its down to Mr Lerner.
What we have to hope is that he makes a decent choice in our eyes but then again he may not.
If that is the case remember we cannot do anything about it so therefore we must give the new manager our 100% backing.
and Aston Villa FC as we always do!
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job.
Then why is that so rare in football? Didn't even happen for the England job this time, and that's the only job where it usually does.
And we could speculate that Lerner is interviewing the best candidates for the job. Still I can't see what he's done wrong. Unless we should've thrown more money at OGS than his Norwegian bosses did.
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The only person who matters in this process is Randy Lerner. It is after all his money that will pay the wages of the new manager whoever it may be. So it doesnt matter one jot what any poster on the many forums thinks its down to Mr Lerner.
What we have to hope is that he makes a decent choice in our eyes but then again he may not.
If that is the case remember we cannot do anything about it so therefore we must give the new manager our 100% backing.
and Aston Villa FC as we always do!
Is this meant to be sarcastic? Otherwise, what a load of bollox.
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Quite.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job.
Then why is that so rare in football? Didn't even happen for the England job this time, and that's the only job where it usually does.
And we could speculate that Lerner is interviewing the best candidates for the job. Still I can't see what he's done wrong. Unless we should've thrown more money at OGS than his Norwegian bosses did.
Dunno if you missed my point, apologies if not. Just to be clear, my argument is that having multiple candidates on the go at the same time puts off the best ones as they don't want to piss off their present employers by going for interviews.
Which is why in the vast majority off cases clubs identify one man at a time then go after him.
I think Small Heath interviewed a few last season, and all that applied were unemployed candidates with nothing to lose.
Why would good, employed managers risk applying for the Villa job and coming in for an interview, risking their relationship with all at their current clubs, for a one in three or four chance of getting the job?
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The only person who matters in this process is Randy Lerner. It is after all his money that will pay the wages of the new manager whoever it may be. So it doesnt matter one jot what any poster on the many forums thinks its down to Mr Lerner.
What we have to hope is that he makes a decent choice in our eyes but then again he may not.
If that is the case remember we cannot do anything about it so therefore we must give the new manager our 100% backing.
and Aston Villa FC as we always do!
Is this meant to be sarcastic? Otherwise, what a load of bollox.
It is indeed a load of forelock tugging bollocks.
We're supporters of the team who our pay hard earned to watch them each week, not a load of Lancashire, cotton mill peasants.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job. How did OGS become the 'leading pick'? All of this rumour, speculation, euphoria, anger and disappointment has been generated, expanded exponentially and kettled within a couple of message boards.
Spot on. It appears OGS was the 'leading pick' because as he was the only one who seemed to have a plane sent to fetch him he was the only one everyone knew was speaking to the club. Even SSN have gone quiet about the Liverpool and Villa jobs now because they haven't got a scooby doo what's going on and know they can't keep guessing without looking stupid.
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Talk on twitter is that Rokke has something over Ole which has somewhat forced his hand.
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Talk on twitter is that Rokke has something over Ole which has somewhat forced his hand.
£££££££
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Absolutely. I think OGS was seriously interested, but he's come under huge pressure from Molde. Publicly stating that finance would be pulled from the club, just hours after it was reported that he'd met Villa for talks, is pretty strong. I saw it very much as 'if you go, the whole club might collapse...' Tough spot to be in.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job. How did OGS become the 'leading pick'? All of this rumour, speculation, euphoria, anger and disappointment has been generated, expanded exponentially and kettled within a couple of message boards.
Even SSN have gone quiet about the Liverpool and Villa jobs now because they haven't got a scooby doo what's going on and know they can't keep guessing without looking stupid.
Sky are concerned about looking stupid? It won't catch on at the Villa.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job.
Then why is that so rare in football? Didn't even happen for the England job this time, and that's the only job where it usually does.
And we could speculate that Lerner is interviewing the best candidates for the job. Still I can't see what he's done wrong. Unless we should've thrown more money at OGS than his Norwegian bosses did.
Dunno if you missed my point, apologies if not. Just to be clear, my argument is that having multiple candidates on the go at the same time puts off the best ones as they don't want to piss off their present employers by going for interviews.
Which is why in the vast majority off cases clubs identify one man at a time then go after him.
I think Small Heath interviewed a few last season, and all that applied were unemployed candidates with nothing to lose.
Why would good, employed managers risk applying for the Villa job and coming in for an interview, risking their relationship with all at their current clubs, for a one in three or four chance of getting the job?
I think maybe I've come into this discussion late Percy, but I think Lerner 'tries' to keep this process out of the spotlight, unfortunately with media and internet speculation and plane spotters this is impossible. I think any upcoming manager worth his salt would talk to his current boss and come clean about wishing to discuss the job with the Villa. Surely if anything it would increase his own stock in the vision of his current employer that he is a wanted prospect?
I know that the football business is a world apart from you and I. Any job where you get sacked for being incompetent and still walk away with millions can never make sense in my eyes, I just try to apply a bit of my own naiive logic to it.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job.
Then why is that so rare in football? Didn't even happen for the England job this time, and that's the only job where it usually does.
And we could speculate that Lerner is interviewing the best candidates for the job. Still I can't see what he's done wrong. Unless we should've thrown more money at OGS than his Norwegian bosses did.
Dunno if you missed my point, apologies if not. Just to be clear, my argument is that having multiple candidates on the go at the same time puts off the best ones as they don't want to piss off their present employers by going for interviews.
Which is why in the vast majority off cases clubs identify one man at a time then go after him.
I think Small Heath interviewed a few last season, and all that applied were unemployed candidates with nothing to lose.
Why would good, employed managers risk applying for the Villa job and coming in for an interview, risking their relationship with all at their current clubs, for a one in three or four chance of getting the job?
I think maybe I've come into this discussion late Percy, but I think Lerner 'tries' to keep this process out of the spotlight, unfortunately with media and internet speculation and plane spotters this is impossible. I think any upcoming manager worth his salt would talk to his current boss and come clean about wishing to discuss the job with the Villa. Surely if anything it would increase his own stock in the vision of his current employer that he is a wanted prospect?
I know that the football business is a world apart from you and I. Any job where you get sacked for being incompetent and still walk away with millions can never make sense in my eyes, I just try to apply a bit of my own naiive logic to it.
You make some good points my honourable friend. If it was all done in secret and each candidate was made to believe he was the only one, it could work.
But it's not, and they aren't, so it doesn't.
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I've yet to see what Lerner has done wrong in all of this. I think some of you should stop taking the conspiracy tablets.
If you want to employ someone, you have to interview the best candidates for the job.
Then why is that so rare in football? Didn't even happen for the England job this time, and that's the only job where it usually does.
And we could speculate that Lerner is interviewing the best candidates for the job. Still I can't see what he's done wrong. Unless we should've thrown more money at OGS than his Norwegian bosses did.
Dunno if you missed my point, apologies if not. Just to be clear, my argument is that having multiple candidates on the go at the same time puts off the best ones as they don't want to piss off their present employers by going for interviews.
Which is why in the vast majority off cases clubs identify one man at a time then go after him.
I think Small Heath interviewed a few last season, and all that applied were unemployed candidates with nothing to lose.
Why would good, employed managers risk applying for the Villa job and coming in for an interview, risking their relationship with all at their current clubs, for a one in three or four chance of getting the job?
I think maybe I've come into this discussion late Percy, but I think Lerner 'tries' to keep this process out of the spotlight, unfortunately with media and internet speculation and plane spotters this is impossible. I think any upcoming manager worth his salt would talk to his current boss and come clean about wishing to discuss the job with the Villa. Surely if anything it would increase his own stock in the vision of his current employer that he is a wanted prospect?
I know that the football business is a world apart from you and I. Any job where you get sacked for being incompetent and still walk away with millions can never make sense in my eyes, I just try to apply a bit of my own naiive logic to it.
You make some good points my honourable friend. If it was all done in secret and each candidate was made to believe he was the only one, it could work.
But it's not, and they aren't, so it doesn't.
True, true and indeed true.
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I dont see making a shortlist of candidates and interviewing them as anything other than prudent to be honest.
If the candidates cant take or understand that there are other candidates then we probably dont need them.
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Exactly. If we'd approached no-one else and just offered it to OGS, we'd be asking why we didn't at least spread the net a bit further.
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I dont see making a shortlist of candidates and interviewing them as anything other than prudent to be honest.
If the candidates cant take or understand that there are other candidates then we probably dont need them.
there is a massive problem with it, you are expecting Managers to go to an interview with the full knolwedge of the chairman only to be one of many on a potential list,
then go back to the club and pretend nothings happened
no manager worth his salt would do that, no manager only those looking for a move openly.
i'm self employed so havent been for a interview for over 20 years, but back in the day when i did, i didnt first tell my boss what i was doing, most people when they get another job the first time the boss gets to know about it is when you put your notice in
it is a rubbish way of doing things,
the board should draw up their short list then pick the first choice and go for him as secretly as posible, if he says no, move on to the next
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I would also prefer they decided who they wanted and then went in strong for him. An interview process says to me they aren't sure who they want!
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Is it only me who gets three quotes when I need some work done at home or on the car?
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The openness puts real pressure on the potential candidate if he is in work, especially in this business. Swansea and Norwich fans wont be so pleased next season if they knew their managers had been looking whats out there through inteviews or discussions. I know I would have been upset early in his tenure had MON been in discussions with a Sky4 (of the time) team, as would have felt he didnt love my team like I do. (turns out he didnt anyway, but it was nice to think so at the time). Its difficult to "Know who you really want" until you talk to them. I have had to take on people in my team over the last decade, and a;ways went in with an open mind. I have had plenty of potentials that I thought were good, but until you really sit them down, you cant really tell, and I would have made less successful decisions had I just gone for the "Thats the one", judged from afar. I am pretty impressed with how RL seems to try to run things. It would be interesting if we had had the chance to be a fly on the wall last year, and listened to all the interviews without the benefit of hindsight who we would have appointed. TSM could well have been the winner for most of us here. You dont get it right every time (thats why there is a job market), but you try to make the best decisions you can
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a major problem being that with multi media platforms you would never be able to keep such a discussion under the radar.It would always come out;and if your top candidate said no, the next guy on the list would automatiically know he was not first choice and would probably not want to engage with the process, particularly if he was alreay employed. U less that is you are a total fuckwit like TSM who knew he would screw up big time but thought 'hey ho, not a bad way to earn 3-4m for 11 months work! Its all bollocks really. Football i mean. Mad.
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I dont see making a shortlist of candidates and interviewing them as anything other than prudent to be honest.
If the candidates cant take or understand that there are other candidates then we probably dont need them.
there is a massive problem with it, you are expecting Managers to go to an interview with the full knolwedge of the chairman only to be one of many on a potential list,
then go back to the club and pretend nothings happened
no manager worth his salt would do that, no manager only those looking for a move openly.
i'm self employed so havent been for a interview for over 20 years, but back in the day when i did, i didnt first tell my boss what i was doing, most people when they get another job the first time the boss gets to know about it is when you put your notice in
it is a rubbish way of doing things,
the board should draw up their short list then pick the first choice and go for him as secretly as posible, if he says no, move on to the next
Absolute nonsense. Why should a candidate be the only one?
If I was a football manager going for a job like Aston Villa, a big job, I would never be so naive as to think I was the only candidate and if they tried to stroke my ego by saying I was, firstly, I wouldn't believe them and secondly would question why they were telling me I was when there are bound to be others. I'd also be wary if there were no other candidates and think "whats wrong with this job?"
Thankfully the club arent that naive and will do due dilligence in finding the right man and if a candidate is so precious as to expect no competition he isn't the man for us.
As for candidates, they either want the job or they dont. If they do, man up and go for it, if not, stay put, please.
We would ask permission for any employed manager and if we speak to their managers and the fans dont like it, I sympathise but that's life.
In any case, we try and keep it hush hush as much as possible. What's the alternative?
Going after one candidate at a time will only take 10 times as long and if you get blown out the next target will know about it anyway, only you're x amount of days down the line.
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Hmmm... So you are saying with absolute certainty there were other candidates interviewed when Big Ron, Sir Brian and SGT got the job then Maz? For all the big jobs in fact? And if there weren't the process was flawed?
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I dont see making a shortlist of candidates and interviewing them as anything other than prudent to be honest.
If the candidates cant take or understand that there are other candidates then we probably dont need them.
there is a massive problem with it, you are expecting Managers to go to an interview with the full knolwedge of the chairman only to be one of many on a potential list,
then go back to the club and pretend nothings happened
no manager worth his salt would do that, no manager only those looking for a move openly.
i'm self employed so havent been for a interview for over 20 years, but back in the day when i did, i didnt first tell my boss what i was doing, most people when they get another job the first time the boss gets to know about it is when you put your notice in
it is a rubbish way of doing things,
the board should draw up their short list then pick the first choice and go for him as secretly as posible, if he says no, move on to the next
Absolute nonsense. Why should a candidate be the only one?
If I was a football manager going for a job like Aston Villa, a big job, I would never be so naive as to think I was the only candidate and if they tried to stroke my ego by saying I was, firstly, I wouldn't believe them and secondly would question why they were telling me I was when there are bound to be others. I'd also be wary if there were no other candidates and think "whats wrong with this job?"
Thankfully the club arent that naive and will do due dillgence in finding the right man and if a candidate is so precious as to expect no competition he isn't the man for us.
As for candidates, they either want the job or they dont. If they do, man up and go for it, if not, stay put, please.
We would ask permission for any employed manager and if we speak to their managers and the fans dont like it, I sympathise but that's life.
In any case, we try and keep it hush hush as much as possible. What's the alternative?
Going after one candidate at a time will only take 10 times as long and if you get blown out the next target will know about it anyway, only you're x amount of days down the line.
fair enough if you think its the right way,
i think its a load of bollocks, and so far it has produced Mcleish as the manager, and 2 very public turn downs even to getting a chance of an offer,
absolute crap way of going on.
can you imagine Man Utd ringing up Mourinho and saying 'hi jose, pleased to say you made the short list, if you can pop over for a formal interview with the rest of the candidates, we'l take it from there, dont forget to tell Real Madrid you are coming first, we dont want any mither '
like i say absolute load of bollocks
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You'd think if it was such a sensible way of doing things it would be common practise, rather than totally bucking the trend as it does.
If you're interviewing a few unemployed managers then I can see it's a no-brainer. The problems arise when you want to see someone who's already in a job.
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Hmmm... So you are saying with absolute certainty there were other candidates interviewed when Big Ron, Sir Brian and SGT got the job then Maz? For all the big jobs in fact? And if there weren't the process was flawed?
No. Just that it's sensible to keep your options open and going for one man at a time is folly unless he is outstanding and you know or have excellent reason to suggest he'd come.
I dont know the exact circumstances surrounding those pursuits. Who knows who else was considered? What if they had turned the job and Doug had no other options?
I just dont see why anybody would criticise what seems to me as a very prudent way of going about a recruitment process.
Would Ron have had his nose out of joint if Kevin Keegan had gone for the Villa job at the same time? I doubt it. He'd have believed in his own ability to get the job. What if you are chasing somebody but a good candidate approaches you? Turn them away? No of course not.
I suppose "Dont put all your eggs in one basket" is pertinent.
Time is marching on. The club needs a manager soon. Players need moving in and out and a new management and coaching team need to bed in and hopefully a new philosophy needs to be learned before the new season. I don't think we can afford to play the long game, nor is there any need to.
Therefore we must consider more than one candidate at a time.
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Two Words----------Video Conferencing! surely this could have saved all the crap and embarrasement. Surely, given the events of the last few days RL and PF will be interviewing potential candidates in this manner and the trees will lose his power.
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Chairmen used to have a feudal power over managers, and would treat them like goods to be bought and sold. Maybe things have changed a bit. It wouldn't be so unhealthy.
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What the fuck? McLeish was the result of an attrociously bad decision and possibly a hamfisted recruitment process, not because we considered a few candidates at the same time.
O.K, let me pose it thusly: Who should we single-mindedly chase to the point of ignoring any other credible candidates and why?
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Two Words----------Video Conferencing!
You sound like Alan Partridge.
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I believe the reason were doing it this way is because A. there is no outstanding candidate B. They havent got a feckin clue..
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What the fuck? McLeish was the result of an attrociously bad decision and possibly a hamfisted recruitment process, not because we considered a few candidates at the same time.
O.K, let me pose it thusly: Who should we single-mindedly chase to the point of ignoring any other credible candidates and why?
no thats not what we are saying,
you consider as many candidates as you like, do your due dilegence and all that, maybe talk to a few agents and stuff, then make a decision, then go and interview your favoured choice,
if talks break down, so be it you move on, its not set in stone, but at least you arnt letting them dangle around while you look elsewhere.
its my firm belief that if we had approached Martinez for the job last season, interviewed him, decided he was the right man and offered him the job he would have taken it,
and exactly the same for OGS,
if we had interviewed Ole and offered him the job having been satisfied with what he had to say, he would now be are manager
the procrastination the way we are doing it is costing us good managers
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What the fuck? McLeish was the result of an attrociously bad decision and possibly a hamfisted recruitment process, not because we considered a few candidates at the same time.
O.K, let me pose it thusly: Who should we single-mindedly chase to the point of ignoring any other credible candidates and why?
Agree with this. I think Mcleish was a panic appointment because they had put all their eggs in one basket with Martinez and felt they had no other options.
I do think they have repeated a mistake from last year by outlining a specific remit for the manager. Last year it was proven premiership experience. This year it's a vibrant up and coming manager rather than just stating they want the right man for the job
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still believe OGS would have bailed as soon as he returned to the land of the trolls. Too much pressure from the molde mafia and the wife and kids probably didn't want to up sticks only a year or so after returning home. Its imperative this does not get fucked up this time so I think we all need a little patience.
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What the fuck? McLeish was the result of an attrociously bad decision and possibly a hamfisted recruitment process, not because we considered a few candidates at the same time.
O.K, let me pose it thusly: Who should we single-mindedly chase to the point of ignoring any other credible candidates and why?
no thats not what we are saying,
you consider as many candidates as you like, do your due dilegence and all that, maybe talk to a few agents and stuff, then make a decision, then go and interview your favoured choice,
if talks break down, so be it you move on, its not set in stone, but at least you arnt letting them dangle around while you look elsewhere.
its my firm belief that if we had approached Martinez for the job last season, interviewed him, decided he was the right man and offered him the job he would have taken it,
and exactly the same for OGS,
if we had interviewed Ole and offered him the job having been satisfied with what he had to say, he would now be are manager
the procrastination the way we are doing it is costing us good managers
We asked to speak to Martinez and were denied so I don't see how we could have offered him the job.
Do you have any proof for your last two statements?
OGS has asked not to be considered and was not offered the job. So in the first instance he has removed himself from the running and in the second instance he was not deemed to be the man for the job as far as we know because we didnt offer it to him.
Also, procrastination? Its been less than two weeks since the last season ended and we sacked the last manager and we're god knows how far though a recruitment process involving multiple candidates. What procrastination?
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By definition, none of us know what's being done in secret.
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You know more than you're letting on I bet Mr. Woodhall....
Anyway, I don't care if it takes a month or so, we need the right man... No point in a quick-fire appointment.
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By definition, none of us know what's being done in secret.
True and there's no denying it, but it's what was done in secret last year that's worrying us all!
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What the fuck? McLeish was the result of an attrociously bad decision and possibly a hamfisted recruitment process, not because we considered a few candidates at the same time.
O.K, let me pose it thusly: Who should we single-mindedly chase to the point of ignoring any other credible candidates and why?
no thats not what we are saying,
you consider as many candidates as you like, do your due dilegence and all that, maybe talk to a few agents and stuff, then make a decision, then go and interview your favoured choice,
if talks break down, so be it you move on, its not set in stone, but at least you arnt letting them dangle around while you look elsewhere.
its my firm belief that if we had approached Martinez for the job last season, interviewed him, decided he was the right man and offered him the job he would have taken it,
and exactly the same for OGS,
if we had interviewed Ole and offered him the job having been satisfied with what he had to say, he would now be are manager
the procrastination the way we are doing it is costing us good managers
We asked to speak to Martinez and were denied so I don't see how we could have offered him the job.
Do you have any proof for your last two statements?
OGS has asked not to be considered and was not offered the job. So in the first instance he has removed himself from the running and in the second instance he was not deemed to be the man for the job as far as we know because we didnt offer it to him.
Also, procrastination? Its been less than two weeks since the last season ended and we sacked the last manager and we're god knows how far though a recruitment process involving multiple candidates. What procrastination?
1 - he declined because he was only ever going to be one of a number of candidates, not the chioce of the board for the job should the talks go well, there is a big difference here, if you cant see it then i cant help you
2 - no i have no proof, thats why i said it was my Belief, its my opinion (probably not worth a lot in fairness)
3 - Procrastination in the way we hold talks with say OGS, then leave them dangling around like a wind sock, its not the way to behave, and puts people of.
by the way, i agreed with your arguments last season, and argued the case as you are now, so i have changed my mind on this one,
i think the fact we ended up with Mcleish was a facter in realising it didnt work, that along with our efforts regarding Martinez and OGS have given me cause to rethink and now believe we are getting it badly wrong,
on the basis that it hasnt and isnt working
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But your opinion of an individual can change entirely upon meeting them and chatting to them, especially with someone like OGS, who won't be as widely known as (to go back to an example some have quoted), Ron Atkinson, who was well established and probably well known by the chairman at the time. So while you could draw up a shortlist, zero in on the first choice and go all out for him, if you they don't come across well in that first interview, you have to change tack. It could be that OGS was the No.1 choice. After all, he is the only guy we know FOR SURE that Villa have spoken to. But he wasn't offered the job, so perhaps he wasn't that convincing.
I think Villa have every right to speak to more than one candidate. Why shouldn't we? The difficulty is in keeping things quiet, and with employed managers, we're in a sensitive area. We tried to smuggle OGS out for talks, we got spotted; good 'ol Dave Whelan is happy to tell the whole world what everyone may or not be doing.
I do agree that, with OGS, the time to fly over was perhaps to finalise talks and sign; some other kind of communication might have been better, initially.
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1 - he declined because he was only ever going to be one of a number of candidates, not the chioce of the board for the job should the talks go well, there is a big difference here, if you cant see it then i cant help you
I dont know where you're getting your info from but I have it on very good authority that it didnt happen like that.
He had given his word to Whelan that he would stay if he kept them up. He did keep them up, he did stay and decided to honour that before ever we came calling. It was nothing to do with being part of an interview process.
And also, as I suggested before, why should we consider a man who can't cope with some competition for a job a good candidate for a job involving competition?
Doesn't strike me as a good trait to have in a manager.
Thankfully I think its bollocks and would like proof any manager turned down a potential job because he was one of a number of candidates and not the only choice.
"I want a job that pays better, has better rewards and prospects but somebody else is going for it as well so I'm not going to bother".
No, I don't think so.
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Incidentally, I spoke to a journalist colleague/acquaintance earlier today and he thinks we've had a lucky escape with OGS. He's a well established European football writer, says he spoke to the CEO of a football club last week about Solksjaer; this guy had actually interviewed OGS for a position in the past and his verdict was that 'the idea of him sounded better than the reality'.
So, if that's the kind of impression OGS left on a CEO, I don't blame Villa for not offering him the job on the spot.
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1 - he declined because he was only ever going to be one of a number of candidates, not the chioce of the board for the job should the talks go well, there is a big difference here, if you cant see it then i cant help you
I dont know where you're getting your info from but I have it on very good authority that it didnt happen like that.
He had given his word to Whelan that he would stay if he kept them up. He did keep them up, he did stay and decided to honour that before ever we came calling. It was nothing to do with being part of an interview process.
And also, as I suggested before, why should we consider a man who can't cope with some competition for a job a good candidate for a job involving competition?
Doesn't strike me as a good trait to have in a manager.
Thankfully I think its bollocks and would like proof any manager turned down a potential job because he was one of a number of candidates and not the only choice.
"I want a job that pays better, has better rewards and prospects but somebody else is going for it as well so I'm not going to bother".
No, I don't think so.
i'm sure we both hope and agree that whatever way they find the next man, he will be a massive success,
and we wont give a toss about this little debate
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Of course. We all want the best outcome.
Nothing wrong with debate mate.
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Such an efficient way of doing it, makes you wonder why only the Villa and Racist FC have cottoned on. How's their search going? Anyone ruled themselves out because they're not man enough to fuck up their existing job for the slight chance of rocking up there?
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Such an efficient way of doing it, makes you wonder why only the Villa and Racist FC have cottoned on. How's their search going? Anyone ruled themselves out because they're not man enough to fuck up their existing job for the slight chance of rocking up there?
Liverpool and Villa are the only clubs who consider more than one candidate at the same time? Are you sure?
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So a better approach is No.1 target, offer job? Does the interview process hold no merit at all?
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That approach may be great if you've got someone onboard who has worked with, or has experience of, the candidate.
If not then you end up with the likes of the Scotchman.
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So a better approach is No.1 target, offer job? Does the interview process hold no merit at all?
Think people are getting two concepts mixed up here.
Of course you consider a wide range of options, not just focus on one candidate. But - you do it discretely - you 'tap them up'/sound 'em out.
You then get yourself a very short short list who you interview because as has been pointed out several times, how many people are going to piss off their current clubs if they aren't very serious candidates for the job?
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if Villa and Liverpool want to interview as many candidates as posible,
maybe they can set up a 'speed dateing' interview process save lot of time and meet loads of prospects all in a couple of hours,
could invite WBA along to make up the numbers
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Yes, and as a bonus they get to meet a lot of hot young guys looking for action.
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if Villa and Liverpool want to interview as many candidates as posible,
maybe they can set up a 'speed dateing' interview process save lot of time and meet loads of prospects all in a couple of hours,
could invite WBA along to make up the numbers
I think a more X factor or BGT based selection process would be better. AVTV and the redscouse version could show it!
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The difficulty we have is that with so many clubs looking for a new boss at the same time, there's going to be a lot of horsetrading going on. It's a bit like transfers, we probably need one of the clubs to appoint somebody, then it'll all settle down.
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That's true.
In terms of 'pecking order' you'd have to imagine it's Chelsea, Liverpool, then us and WBA last. Is someone like Martinez going to say yes to us when Liverpool is still a possibility?
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Seeing as how Randy and/or PF fell for TSM's charms when they went to see him in Corsica, I think they should be kept away from face-to-face interviews for their own good.
TSM: 'I'm not a defensive manager, honest'.
Randy: 'You've got the job'!
This year:
Mick McCarthy: 'I'm young and vibrant'.
Randy: 'Congratulations'!
Two years ago:
Houllier: 'Look at this medical report what I had done in Haiti by a real doctor and everything. He did Ivo Stas's medical'.
Randy: 'Wow'!
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Isnt it about time this thread was closed and we move on from the OGS saga?
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Seeing as how Randy and/or PF fell for TSM's charms when they went to see him in Corsica, I think they should be kept away from face-to-face interviews for their own good.
TSM: 'I'm not a defensive manager, honest'.
Randy: 'You've got the job'!
This year:
Mick McCarthy: 'I'm young and vibrant'.
Randy: 'Congratulations'!
Two years ago:
Houllier: 'Look at this medical report what I had done in Haiti by a real doctor and everything. He did Ivo Stas's medical'.
Randy: 'Wow'!
I'm hoping Randy falls for my 'Nigerian businessman' e-mail I sent him earlier.
If so, the drinks are on me.
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You'll probably end up getting interviewed for the job.
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You'll probably end up getting interviewed for the job.
As i've said 344 times Perce.
Anybody who is willing to employ the chronic Mc£eish, is capable of anything.
Expect the unexpected.
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*shivers*
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Randy should only interview Fletch if he's been tapped up and there's nobody else in the frame.
"No, there's nobody else sweetie. You're the Duke, A1, the big cheese, the head honcho, numero uno, the boss, the one and only...."
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Stop giving him ideas.
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Isnt it about time this thread was closed and we move on from the OGS saga?
You're right. I think we both need our own space.
I hope we can still be friends.
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Randy should only interview Fletch if he's been tapped up and there's nobody else in the frame.
"No, there's nobody else sweetie. You're the Duke, A1, the big cheese, the head honcho, numero uno, the boss, the one and only...."
I'm thick, but I reckon even I could run rings round Lerner, he's like Cletus from the Simpsons.
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The difficulty we have is that with so many clubs looking for a new boss at the same time, there's going to be a lot of horsetrading going on. It's a bit like transfers, we probably need one of the clubs to appoint somebody, then it'll all settle down.
Are you suggesting skullduggery by the manager's agents?
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Randy should only interview Fletch if he's been tapped up and there's nobody else in the frame.
"No, there's nobody else sweetie. You're the Duke, A1, the big cheese, the head honcho, numero uno, the boss, the one and only...."
I'm thick, but I reckon even I could run rings round Lerner, he's like Cletus from the Simpsons.
The Lerner with a law degree from Columbia and Cambridge St Claire, and operated as a lawyer in NYC for years. Randy is many things, naive, too philanthropic, elusive, but not thick.
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Randy should only interview Fletch if he's been tapped up and there's nobody else in the frame.
"No, there's nobody else sweetie. You're the Duke, A1, the big cheese, the head honcho, numero uno, the boss, the one and only...."
I'm thick, but I reckon even I could run rings round Lerner, he's like Cletus from the Simpsons.
The Lerner with a law degree from Columbia and Cambridge St Claire, and operated as a lawyer in NYC for years. Randy is many things, naive, too philanthropic, elusive, but not thick.
I didn't mean thick in the academic sense, more in the common sense.
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To compare employing a football manager to any other job you need to put everything in context.
The application/CV stage is watching their team play and deciding if you like what you see.
The first interview stage involves doing some research on how they do the job, do they work with the existing coaches, bring through the youth, etc. This can largely be done talking to your own scouts and agents and shouldn't require a meeting with the candidate. If the other club or the manager are aware of this happening it's generally in their best interests to keep it quiet, but the odd chairman might make a big deal of it (*cough* dave whelan *cough*).
The 2nd interview is where you actually meet them, see what they think of you and get them to sell themselves for the job.
If this is how we've done things I'd expect no more than 3 people to be met with (within a day or 2) and I 'd expect an offer to appear very quickly after the last meeting. OGS was never offered the job which means they must've wanted to talk to more people. That we've had no news suggests these meetings haven't taken place, if that is because of the reaction to ogs by the fans it makes sense, if it's as was always intended then it's pretty poor planning. I've no issue with it taking time or interviewing multiple people but leaving such a big gap between an interview going public and an announcement of anything concrete is pretty poor in my opinion.
When things are played out in such a public arena a drawn out process is no good for any of the parties, once you've decided to speak to 2-3 people it needs to become a race to the contract for me, up until that stage is the time to be methodical and make sure you've done all your research.
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Randy should only interview Fletch if he's been tapped up and there's nobody else in the frame.
"No, there's nobody else sweetie. You're the Duke, A1, the big cheese, the head honcho, numero uno, the boss, the one and only...."
I'm thick, but I reckon even I could run rings round Lerner, he's like Cletus from the Simpsons.
The Lerner with a law degree from Columbia and Cambridge St Claire, and operated as a lawyer in NYC for years. Randy is many things, naive, too philanthropic, elusive, but not thick.
I didn't mean thick in the academic sense, more in the common sense.
He appears to lack common sense, that I will give you. If he had that he would never have bought the Villa.
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Isnt it about time this thread was closed and we move on from the OGS saga?
Agree
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To compare employing a football manager to any other job you need to put everything in context.
The application/CV stage is watching their team play and deciding if you like what you see.
The first interview stage involves doing some research on how they do the job, do they work with the existing coaches, bring through the youth, etc. This can largely be done talking to your own scouts and agents and shouldn't require a meeting with the candidate. If the other club or the manager are aware of this happening it's generally in their best interests to keep it quiet, but the odd chairman might make a big deal of it (*cough* dave whelan *cough*).
The 2nd interview is where you actually meet them, see what they think of you and get them to sell themselves for the job.
If this is how we've done things I'd expect no more than 3 people to be met with (within a day or 2) and I 'd expect an offer to appear very quickly after the last meeting. OGS was never offered the job which means they must've wanted to talk to more people. That we've had no news suggests these meetings haven't taken place, if that is because of the reaction to ogs by the fans it makes sense, if it's as was always intended then it's pretty poor planning. I've no issue with it taking time or interviewing multiple people but leaving such a big gap between an interview going public and an announcement of anything concrete is pretty poor in my opinion.
When things are played out in such a public arena a drawn out process is no good for any of the parties, once you've decided to speak to 2-3 people it needs to become a race to the contract for me, up until that stage is the time to be methodical and make sure you've done all your research.
The fundamental difference between vacancies in football management and jobs in the real world is any football owner/Chief Exec worth their salt should already know what a prospective candidate is about.
Unlike 95% of real jobs, the past careers of football manager are a matter of public record. Yes, even with that, it's still possible for some to blag it. But it's not like a Joe Soap, walking in off the street telling the interview panel he went to Oxford when it turns out he did a hairdressing course in a regional tech there once.
Once they've decided on the criteria and narrowed it down to who they think is suitable, then it's time to find out through third parties/intermediaries whether said candidates are actually interested in THEM (again, a break from the real world) and what they would require in job conditions, salary and so forth. This should narrow the field further. Maybe the guy they have approached is keen, but is concerned about leaving his present employer. This plays out a lot in football, and is again different to most real life situations, where -you can be nearly certain- if a bloke has actually spoken to you about a job, he'll drop his present employer like a stone should a concrete offer be made.
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The usual sound reasoning from Mr Gage.
That's why he annoys me when he disagrees with me.
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Look, whether you like it or not, Randy likes to engage people face to face to see first hand what they're about and if they fit in with the plan, not get second hand info or whatever he's seen or heard on Match of the Day. Its his money and his prerogative.
And before they get millions of pounds to piss away, its good practice.
There's probably 3 or 4 candidates and they're being sounded out. The most suitable will hopefully get the job.
Much ado about nothing.
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Does anyone who posts on this site have any knowledge of how a football manager is chosen in general or by our board?
Perhaps Lerner and Faulkner have made one of those paper things girls make in primary school.
PF: Pick a colour?
RL: Claret
PF: Pick a number?
RL: 87
PF: Okay (unfolds) Graham Taylor Mk.III
RL: Well that's that then, let's get our man. I don't want any leaks and I don't want our Key Selection Criteria or interview methods disclosed for people on Twitter, anyone ITK, or Internet message boards.
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I guess it's time to change my name back to Caiphus... unless another Norwegian manager comes from nowhere...
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Look, whether you like it or not, Randy likes to engage people face to face to see first hand what they're about and if they fit in with the plan, not get second hand info or whatever he's seen or heard on Match of the Day. Its his money and his prerogative.
And before they get millions of pounds to piss away, its good practice.
There's probably 3 or 4 candidates and they're being sounded out. The most suitable will hopefully get the job.
Much ado about nothing.
The trouble is, he's got it so spectacularly wrong in the past that you can't help but worry. I'm sure McLeish came across perfectly fine when they met in Corsica or wherever, but in this case, one look at his record and style of play should have made any sensible owner run for the hills.
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Look, whether you like it or not, Randy likes to engage people face to face to see first hand what they're about and if they fit in with the plan, not get second hand info or whatever he's seen or heard on Match of the Day. Its his money and his prerogative.
And before they get millions of pounds to piss away, its good practice.
There's probably 3 or 4 candidates and they're being sounded out. The most suitable will hopefully get the job.
Much ado about nothing.
The trouble is, he's got it so spectacularly wrong in the past that you can't help but worry. I'm sure McLeish came across perfectly fine when they met in Corsica or wherever, but in this case, one look at his record and style of play should have made any sensible owner run for the hills.
you cant argue with that,
i still have time for Randy and hope he's learnt from mistakes in the past, but there is no getting away with what happened last season, i would love to draw a line and move on, but untill a new appointment arrives we still have nagging doubts
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Look, whether you like it or not, Randy likes to engage people face to face to see first hand what they're about and if they fit in with the plan, not get second hand info or whatever he's seen or heard on Match of the Day. Its his money and his prerogative.
And before they get millions of pounds to piss away, its good practice.
There's probably 3 or 4 candidates and they're being sounded out. The most suitable will hopefully get the job.
Much ado about nothing.
The trouble is, he's got it so spectacularly wrong in the past that you can't help but worry. I'm sure McLeish came across perfectly fine when they met in Corsica or wherever, but in this case, one look at his record and style of play should have made any sensible owner run for the hills.
Although he got AMcL wrong I though Houlier was a decent appointment.
Yes, we struggled at first, but that was only because it was a dramatic change in playing style. At the end of that season we were begining to look pretty good. Had Houlier not had to retire I reckon we'd have seen a different Villa last season.
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I do worry about what they're going to do, such was the sheer stupidity of the last appointment. It's only natural.
But his record of managerial appointments is one that made sense and was considered a bit of a coup at the time, one measured appointment that could have worked out and had some logic and one unmitigated disaster. So there's more chance the next appointment will be decent or better than terrible if you're going by those averages.
I also think he'll learn from his mistakes and take better advice this time. McLeish was on his bike sharpish when the season finished and he must know why he cant make a similarly bad judgement.
Despite what some think, he isn't an idiot.
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I do worry about what they're going to do, such was the sheer stupidity of the last appointment. It's only natural.
But his record of managerial appointments is one that made sense and was considered a bit of a coup at the time, one measured appointment that could have worked out and had some logic and one unmitigated disaster. So there's more chance the next appointment will be decent or better than terrible if you're going by those averages.
I also think he'll learn from his mistakes and take better advice this time. McLeish was on his bike sharpish when the season finished and he must know why he cant make a similarly bad judgement.
Despite what some think, he isn't an idiot.
Didn't Doug appoint MON?
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I do worry about what they're going to do, such was the sheer stupidity of the last appointment. It's only natural.
But his record of managerial appointments is one that made sense and was considered a bit of a coup at the time, one measured appointment that could have worked out and had some logic and one unmitigated disaster. So there's more chance the next appointment will be decent or better than terrible if you're going by those averages.
I also think he'll learn from his mistakes and take better advice this time. McLeish was on his bike sharpish when the season finished and he must know why he cant make a similarly bad judgement.
Despite what some think, he isn't an idiot.
Didn't Doug appoint MON?
I think the common understanding is that Doug identified him, and O'Neill only agreed to come when it was confirmed that Lerner would be taking over. I also fail to see the logic in appointing somebody like Houllier who was several years past his best and in semi-retirement at the French FA. Whichever way you dress it up, Lerner has properly appointed two managers. The first was crap, the second was woeful.
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Houllier wasn't good, but at least I can see some logic to it. Really speaking, it was his health issues that were most concerning.
No comment on the Scottish Manager.
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Houllier wasn't good, but at least I can see some logic to it. Really speaking, it was his health issues that were most concerning.
No comment on the Scottish Manager.
The mistake what Houllier did was to change things too quickly but Villa started to show real progress in the spring before he got the heart issues. I think the logic behind the Houllier was that he would manage Villa for couple years, re-tool our scouting, build a network of contacts in the europe, and bring young and promising players from the france and then let a new manager to take over the reins.
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We need a 40-something with Houllier's mind.... Some didn't like what he did, or was trying to do at Villa, I did... he would have achieved if his ticker wasn't bost...
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Although, at least in the hindsight it's risky to hire manager who's 60+ and has a history with bad ticker... even if he has very thorough checkup from the doctors.
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Express & Star still seems to be under the impression that OGS is favourite:
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/22/domingos-paciencia-stakes-aston-villa-claim-but-ole-gunnar-solskjaer-odds-on/
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Express & Star still seems to be under the impression that OGS is favourite:
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/aston-villa-fc/2012/05/22/domingos-paciencia-stakes-aston-villa-claim-but-ole-gunnar-Solskjær-odds-on/
Check the date. It's from Tuesday.
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It's been a long day at work...
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This topic requires combining with the other "who you want..." topic.
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I agree - lets get to 1000 pages.
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We need a 40-something with Houllier's mind.... Some didn't like what he did, or was trying to do at Villa, I did... he would have achieved if his ticker wasn't bost...
Disagree. The football was just as bad as under the Scottish Manager, and only the signing of Darren Bent stopped us going down. I can't see any sign that he was going to turn us into Arsenal mark II.
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We need a 40-something with Houllier's mind.... Some didn't like what he did, or was trying to do at Villa, I did... he would have achieved if his ticker wasn't bost...
Disagree. The football was just as bad as under the Scottish Manager, and only the signing of Darren Bent stopped us going down. I can't see any sign that he was going to turn us into Arsenal mark II.
True, Bent saved us from Championship football, as did Given with his save at Boggies. Turning points down to individuals, We have been very lucky.
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Weimanns goal kept us up
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Houllier wasn't good, but at least I can see some logic to it. Really speaking, it was his health issues that were most concerning.
But that wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a side issue.
Why is it that posters on this thread and elsewhere could soon find that the average life expectancy after the kind of heavy duty surgery GH underwent in 2001 is ten years, but the board either didn't know that or overlooked it completely?
Set aside emotion, when multi million pound contracts are being handed out (and GH was on more than McLeish and MON) those kind of little details should factor into the equation somewhere.
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Houllier wasn't good, but at least I can see some logic to it. Really speaking, it was his health issues that were most concerning.
But that wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a side issue.
Why is it that posters on this thread and elsewhere could soon find that the average life expectancy after the kind of heavy duty surgery GH underwent in 2001 is ten years, but the board either didn't know that or overlooked it completely?
Set aside emotion, when multi million pound contracts are being handed out (and GH was on more than McLeish and MON) those kind of little details should factor into the equation somewhere.
Harry Redknap still got a top job after heart surgery,
if the media are to be believed he was the nations favourite for the England job, plenty of people have heart problems and carry on in presurised jobs,
i feel the board should have been comended rather than pilloried for not letting such a health issue stand in his way, there is a lot of discrimination in this field about peoples ability to do certain jobs.
admitedly you will always win this particular argument because in the end he left because of the very problem you say he shouldnt have been hired for.
i still dont agree with you on this one though, which is rare because i normaly do agree with most of your posts
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I john, agree with you. Houllier tried to get us playing in a way that long term would have been great, and the kids were integrating well into that in some cases. Bent was clearly loving it too, and his deals in January were good. I think the board need someone with that mentality but at 40, not 65. Someone we can call our David Moyes, for example. I still think Poyet could be that man, but equally Lambert or OGS would work. We have options this summer, but Houllier had the right philosophy.
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I john, agree with you. Houllier tried to get us playing in a way that long term would have been great, and the kids were integrating well into that in some cases. Bent was clearly loving it too, and his deals in January were good. I think the board need someone with that mentality but at 40, not 65. Someone we can call our David Moyes, for example. I still think Poyet could be that man, but equally Lambert or OGS would work. We have options this summer, but Houllier had the right philosophy.
Quite, it's essential we move towards that sort of vision.
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Houllier wasn't good, but at least I can see some logic to it. Really speaking, it was his health issues that were most concerning.
But that wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a side issue.
Why is it that posters on this thread and elsewhere could soon find that the average life expectancy after the kind of heavy duty surgery GH underwent in 2001 is ten years, but the board either didn't know that or overlooked it completely?
Set aside emotion, when multi million pound contracts are being handed out (and GH was on more than McLeish and MON) those kind of little details should factor into the equation somewhere.
Harry Redknap still got a top job after heart surgery,
if the media are to be believed he was the nations favourite for the England job, plenty of people have heart problems and carry on in presurised jobs,
i feel the board should have been comended rather than pilloried for not letting such a health issue stand in his way, there is a lot of discrimination in this field about peoples ability to do certain jobs.
admitedly you will always win this particular argument because in the end he left because of the very problem you say he shouldnt have been hired for.
i still dont agree with you on this one though, which is rare because i normaly do agree with most of your posts
Fair enough John.
I'll admit to not knowing exactly what type of heart surgery Redknapp received. Maybe the longterm prognosis was similar and his clubs since then should be commended for taking that chance.
Personally, I'd err on the side of caution, if it was me handing a manager a contract at £3.5 million per year for 3 years. Aside from the monetary concerns, a manager is such a crucial aspect of any clubs medium>long term strategy.
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Would appreciate a quick update, is OGS dead and buried or still in the frame?
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Would appreciate a quick update, is OGS dead and buried or still in the frame?
Almost certainly dead and buried, but you never know. It'll be curious to see what happens after their game on Tuesday.
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Would appreciate a quick update, is OGS dead and buried or still in the frame?
Almost certainly dead and buried, but you never know. It'll be curious to see what happens after their game on Tuesday.
all go home and eat some Lutefisk would be my bet
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Bugger................and thanks for the update.
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Houllier wasn't good, but at least I can see some logic to it. Really speaking, it was his health issues that were most concerning.
But that wasn't (or shouldn't have been) a side issue.
Why is it that posters on this thread and elsewhere could soon find that the average life expectancy after the kind of heavy duty surgery GH underwent in 2001 is ten years, but the board either didn't know that or overlooked it completely?
Set aside emotion, when multi million pound contracts are being handed out (and GH was on more than McLeish and MON) those kind of little details should factor into the equation somewhere.
Harry Redknap still got a top job after heart surgery,
if the media are to be believed he was the nations favourite for the England job, plenty of people have heart problems and carry on in presurised jobs,
i feel the board should have been comended rather than pilloried for not letting such a health issue stand in his way, there is a lot of discrimination in this field about peoples ability to do certain jobs.
admitedly you will always win this particular argument because in the end he left because of the very problem you say he shouldnt have been hired for.
i still dont agree with you on this one though, which is rare because i normaly do agree with most of your posts
Houllier didn't have a heart condition - he had an aortic dissection. This is completely different to coronary artery disease witha much higher mortality. The club were right to not let him carry on - he was more likley to die from it than if he'd just got angina or a heart attack.
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Fair enough with Houllier but he did have a philosophy based upon decent attackin footie. Not sure ozz that I want our Moyes, he is somewhat of a curates egg to me, very worthwhile but don't inspire me to think great things are on the horizon.Lambert seems in that vein, whereas Poyet may have more inspiration, OGs caught the imagination, Martinez is a gamble for us or Pool, 2nd half of season tickets would sell well!!!,, FSW would also be interesting for the cloob, and I would be intrigued by him, as long as Mick mc, or strewth its bruce don,t wash up on witton lakeshore we should be ok....... maybe
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The reason I'm curious to see what happens after Tuesday is, that everything from ITKs and all that has gone very very quiet since Solskjaer announced he's staying. Then you get the thing from Nursey saying Villa are happy to be patient, and are not waiting for Liverpool to complete their search. It's highly unlikely, but it seems very odd that everything has gone very quiet. I wouldn't be totally surprised if he still becomes our manager.
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It's not completely out of the question Paul.
The kind of statement he made the other day stops the feeding frenzy (at the Norwegian end) and allows him to get on with the job there up until the mid season break. Unlikely, but not impossible.
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I hear the sound of straws being grasped!
He said himself that he rang Randy and took himself out of the running. Now I like a good conspiracy theory (see my posts on the other manager thread re:Grayson) but this would be a U-Turn of mega-proportions wouldn't it?
It's goodnight Kristiansund, over and out!
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I'm pretty convinced Solskjær had his arm twisted by Kjell Inge Røkke, Moldes largest financial backer through Aker Solutions.
Found an article from a Norwegian journalist who I'm paraphrasing, but basically said he behaves like a spoiled brat when he thinks he can't get his own way and quoted a wonderful example of his time as a large investor in another large Norwegian company Kværner. At the time Kværner were in serious trouble and risk of bankruptcy. The board aided by their Russian majority shareholder had negotiated a rescue deal with the richest man in Russia.
Røkkes response. But enough shares to ensure the deal couldn't go through even though it would almost certainly cost him a fortune and put 10.000 people out of work.
His parting shot to one the Kværner board when he'd finally got his own way "If I was as thick as you I'd sue my own parents"
Edited as I'm still shit at typing :(
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What that conversation said between the two we will never know, but Villa have done nothing at all since by the looks of it, and he has not had to face a media frenzy.
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I too am intrigued by the pervading silence. All the signs were that OGS was bounced into his rejection of us. I do not expect it, but I would not be surprised either if he was feeling very real pangs of regret for throwing away a chance the like of which may not happen again. We would have been the perfect club for him to launch himself in the Premiership and he must know it.
He will not be whistling Edith Piaf's signature tune in the foreseeable future.
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Managers change their mind, it does happen.
GH was mentioned earlier, and there was a suggestion at the time that he initially turned the Villa job down. Until he was persuaded with the offer of more money- and a large chunk of it paid up front.
And we know all about BFR and his 'I'd be mad to leave Sheffield Wednesday' about turn in 1991.
Personally, I think this one is dead, but until their season gets underway again (or we appoint someone in the meantime) I can see why others might disagree.
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Rokke discovered, mentored and sponsored OGS to his recruitment by MU, according to what I was reading on their fans' site, the other night.
The relationship seems to be more, 'favourite son' than 'current Molde manager'.
Maybe more difficult for OGS to resist or break away than was first thought. Not impossible, though.
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what have any official at AVFC actually said though ?
appart from the initial statement have they actually said anything more, i'm thinking of the Press fella who confirmed OGS's pullout, but i cant think of anything else
so we are left with Kendrick's and Abrams tweets who differ from day to day, so they might be closer than us, but i would sugest not quite in the loop.
so to say things have gone quiet, is just saying twitteres, rumourmongers, bulshitters, fan forums, journo's who dont really know much have gone quiet,
the club have never been exactly noisy, Dave Whelan they are not
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Which isn't a bad thing, even though it frustrates the shit out of us at the same time!
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
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By now you guess they would have sounded out the A list of candidates, maybe they are starting on the B list. ::)
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Well AVB's agent is quoted as saying he's looking for a project.
If Randy's is prepared to back him financially you'd have thought we could sell him the notion that we'd be the ideal Club for him.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
On the other hand, Lpool have had at least 3 people turn them down and another 5 not entertaining it, according to the press.
There's an advantage in not advertising who we might be going after.
Still think that Randy's plane was picking up his regular order of lutefisk and Ole just wandered on board...
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I reckon we'll know by June 1st.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
This is what it feels like. I'm sure there's lots going on in the background but it sure seems like absolutely no progress has been made and the longer it goes on the more worried people will get!
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I too am intrigued by the pervading silence. All the signs were that OGS was bounced into his rejection of us. I do not expect it, but I would not be surprised either if he was feeling very real pangs of regret for throwing away a chance the like of which may not happen again. We would have been the perfect club for him to launch himself in the Premiership and he must know it.
He will not be whistling Edith Piaf's signature tune in the foreseeable future.
He will be standing there, hands in his pockets, with before him the glorious vista of mountains and fjords.
Unfortunately, it will be across a plastic pitch, through a crowd of 2500, and between the terraces, in Tromso. And he will be thinking of what might have been.
Still beats Wigan on a Tuesdayday night in February.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
Yeah I agree it's been quite atypical with the normal media circus.
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I can't see him going back on his word after holding a press conference like he did the other day but it has gone unusually quiet.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
Would you say no news is good news Dave? Or could you see panic set in if the appointment isn't soon?
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I have never known a situation where three good jobs, for different reasons, at Villa, Albion and the Dippers, have remained unfilled for so long.
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Whats the panic? If there was any time of year to be having to search for a new manager, take a bit of time and not panic, then surely it is now.
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I have never known a situation where three good jobs, for different reasons, at Villa, Albion and the Dippers, have remained unfilled for so long.
I think Albion feel they could push on from last season after finishing above both their biggest local rivals and as a result are playing it carefully to try an find someone to try and keep it that way. Liverpool and us on the other hand look from the outside like a rudderless ship that's just hit an iceberg.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
Would you say no news is good news Dave? Or could you see panic set in if the appointment isn't soon?
There seems to be panic on here already. I don;t know what's happening. There really is not one clue coming out of Villa Park.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
Would you say no news is good news Dave? Or could you see panic set in if the appointment isn't soon?
There seems to be panic on here already. I don;t know what's happening. There really is not one clue coming out of Villa Park.
Who is your preferred candidate Dave?
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
Would you say no news is good news Dave? Or could you see panic set in if the appointment isn't soon?
There seems to be panic on here already. I don;t know what's happening. There really is not one clue coming out of Villa Park.
Who is your preferred candidate Dave?
Without knowing what he's got to work with I don't know.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
This is what it feels like. I'm sure there's lots going on in the background but it sure seems like absolutely no progress has been made and the longer it goes on the more worried people will get!
Signing a manager is becoming a lot like signing a wanted player. A lot of gas in the air, agents, posturing, double talk, smoking mirrors etc. i'm sure Villa aren't just sitting on their hands but it does appear that one deal has to get done of the four vacancies for things to get going. There's not real need for rush though as we are still in May but it would be nice to have a bit of certainty for all concerned soon.
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
Would you say no news is good news Dave? Or could you see panic set in if the appointment isn't soon?
There seems to be panic on here already. I don;t know what's happening. There really is not one clue coming out of Villa Park.
Who is your preferred candidate Dave?
Without knowing what he's got to work with I don't know.
I think that's a very good point and possibly one of the reasons it'll take so long to appoint someone. A statement of intent in some peoples eyes if it's Rafa, as he'll need to rebuild the squad. Or, just happy to be at Villa if it's someone like Simon Grayson I suppose. FWIW, I said Lambert from the off. A solid if unspectacular appointment, arguably a bit dour, but safe. I voted for Martinez on the poll because I think he's a better fit. But what the hell do I know?
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I think of the mooted candidates I'd go for Martinez because he might have more to offer than he's shown already, whereas with Lambert especially, what you see is what you're always going to get. But we don't know what the board might have up their sleeve; they might be talking to someone in Spain or Italy at this minute.
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I think of the mooted candidates I'd go for Martinez because he might have more to offer than he's shown already, whereas with Lambert especially, what you see is what you're always going to get. But we don't know what the board might have up their sleeve; they might be talking to someone in Spain or Italy at this minute.
I agree with that, and in the case of Lambert we know what we're going to get - because we already had it for four years. Also, Spain and Italy would be all fine and well, but I'd say there are more viable and excelling young coaches in Germany and Holland, and I hope the board haven't neglected those areas in their search.
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I think of the mooted candidates I'd go for Martinez because he might have more to offer than he's shown already, whereas with Lambert especially, what you see is what you're always going to get. But we don't know what the board might have up their sleeve; they might be talking to someone in Spain or Italy at this minute.
I agree with that, and in the case of Lambert we know what we're going to get - because we already had it for four years. Also, Spain and Italy would be all fine and well, but I'd say there are more viable and excelling young coaches in Germany and Holland, and I hope the board haven't neglected those areas in their search.
I think the fact that nobody had us linked with a rising star coach out of Norway should give us all some hope that the strategy had changed. Imagine has someone leaked that we were talking to Curbishley, as we had done last year, how different the mood on this place would be. Like you, and think for most of us, we would be willing to give someone we less about that plays the game the right way more of a chance, than the same old same old that we all kind of know how it is going to end up.
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whats happening with Martinez and Liverpool ?
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I've never known a manager hunt where there was so little to go on. In 11 days all we've had is one lot of talks and a candidate turning down the job when he apparently hadn't been offered it anyway. The club are playing their cards very close to their chest but you can only get away with tapping your finger on your nose and winking for so long.
This is what it feels like. I'm sure there's lots going on in the background but it sure seems like absolutely no progress has been made and the longer it goes on the more worried people will get!
Signing a manager is becoming a lot like signing a wanted player. A lot of gas in the air, agents, posturing, double talk, smoking mirrors etc. .
Yep, I was thinking the same thing. It's very similar indeed.
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whats happening with Martinez and Liverpool ?
Whelan, megaphone strapped to his mouth, claimed Liverpool have offered him the job, but Liverpool have distanced themselves from this. Whelan also claims that Martinez might reject any Liverpool offer which compromises his control of transfers, handing that to the prospective sporting director, maybe Van Gaal.
I think of the mooted candidates I'd go for Martinez because he might have more to offer than he's shown already, whereas with Lambert especially, what you see is what you're always going to get. But we don't know what the board might have up their sleeve; they might be talking to someone in Spain or Italy at this minute.
I agree with that, and in the case of Lambert we know what we're going to get - because we already had it for four years. Also, Spain and Italy would be all fine and well, but I'd say there are more viable and excelling young coaches in Germany and Holland, and I hope the board haven't neglected those areas in their search.
I think the fact that nobody had us linked with a rising star coach out of Norway should give us all some hope that the strategy had changed. Imagine has someone leaked that we were talking to Curbishley, as we had done last year, how different the mood on this place would be. Like you, and think for most of us, we would be willing to give someone we less about that plays the game the right way more of a chance, than the same old same old that we all kind of know how it is going to end up.
Let's hope. It certainly does feel different, more modern certainly. It seems to me that they've learned lessons: with GH and McLeish, they accepted certain things as gospel which they aren't this time, especially that Premier League experience rubbish. They also seem clearer in the style of football they're looking for than last year's ridiculous Martinez-then-McLeish confusion.
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I think Whelan knowingly goes out of his way to scupper deals by making them public. Liverpool as we were last year have been compromised by Whelan opening his fucking gobto the press. I imagine if we speak to Martinez he'll be spouting again and that we're not big enough etc etc for the "best young manager in Europe" (yes apparently he said that!).
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thanks Monty,
so as i read it, if Liverpool do not go ahead with Martinez, we might well be in the frame with a big chance.
i know we both favour Martinez, but how do you feel about Villa maybe being 2nd best to liverpool, sort of a consolation prize ?
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thanks Monty,
so as i read it, if Liverpool do not go ahead with Martinez, we might well be in the frame with a big chance.
i know we both favour Martinez, but how do you feel about Villa maybe being 2nd best to liverpool, sort of a consolation prize ?
Why are we second best? How do you know how he views the two opportunities? They are talking to him and he is getting an understanding of how that job will and the expectations that go with it. Maybe Liverpool will be turned down by Martinez for us? Would that make them second best to us?
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thanks Monty,
so as i read it, if Liverpool do not go ahead with Martinez, we might well be in the frame with a big chance.
i know we both favour Martinez, but how do you feel about Villa maybe being 2nd best to liverpool, sort of a consolation prize ?
I'm not sure that's the case. As Toronto has been saying, Whelan's gobbed off to the press about this. There's a feeling that, at Liverpool, Martinez would have less authority with less job security - a toxic mix, essentially carrying the can for someone else's mistakes. At Villa he would not only get more authority over the football side of things, but also with more forgiveness and leeway* should things go askew at times. There's also the expectation levels for two teams who, even though they are better than us, are not actually that far apart: Dalglish got fired for 8th, a trophy and a cup final; McLeish would have had his doubters crowing at the achievement had he been able to manage that. If I'm a young, career-conscious manager, I know which one looks a bit more sensible
*leeway? leigh-way? Never known how to spell that.
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According to The Mail on Saturday the club spoke to the agents of Roberto Martinez on Thursday.
But who knows, not me for sure.
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thanks Monty,
so as i read it, if Liverpool do not go ahead with Martinez, we might well be in the frame with a big chance.
i know we both favour Martinez, but how do you feel about Villa maybe being 2nd best to liverpool, sort of a consolation prize ?
Do you know we both favour martinez or do you think we both favour martinez?