Aston Villa have joined Arsenal in the race to sign Serbia striker Dusan Vlahovic, 25, who is increasingly likely to leave Juventus in the summer. (TeamTalk)
This would be an unbelievable signing.
No thanks, that wanker nationalist ****** can get in the bin and stay in the fucking bin as far as I am concerned.
No thanks, that wanker nationalist ****** can get in the bin and stay in the fucking bin as far as I am concerned.
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“Be happy Serbian race” is the slogan on his t-shirt with a picture of Serbia including Kosovo inside the border. And the hand signal he's doing is (while a traditional Serbian gesture) is now apparently more widely seen as agressive nationalism, after it was taken on by Serbian militias as their symbol.
PSG pulled out of signing him when their Ultras put out a statement saying that if he joined them they'd track him down and cut those three fingers off.
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“Be happy Serbian race” is the slogan on his t-shirt with a picture of Serbia including Kosovo inside the border. And the hand signal he's doing is (while a traditional Serbian gesture) is now apparently more widely seen as agressive nationalism, after it was taken on by Serbian militias as their symbol.
PSG pulled out of signing him when their Ultras put out a statement saying that if he joined them they'd track him down and cut those three fingers off.
Yeah, so, like, not exactly "I don't like his face"* territory.
* I don't like his face, either, as it happens.
Brugges cb joel ordonez apparently on radar accoridng to some papers. Be a good opportunity to look at him tomorrow night
Brugges cb joel ordonez apparently on radar accoridng to some papers. Be a good opportunity to look at him tomorrow night
Newcastle apparently looking to offload Nick Pope for £10-£15mI always thought that was a weird signing for Newcastle. I didn’t think he was an upgrade on Dubravka. I agree that he’d want to be a first choice somewhere in the EPL.
Would certainly be a decent back up to Emi.
In fairness, though, he’d probably be looking to be the starter.
Newcastle apparently looking to offload Nick Pope for £10-£15m
Would certainly be a decent back up to Emi.
In fairness, though, he’d probably be looking to be the starter.
Newcastle apparently looking to offload Nick Pope for £10-£15mvery ordinary.
Would certainly be a decent back up to Emi.
In fairness, though, he’d probably be looking to be the starter.
Liverpool want Wolfsburg's Konstantinos Koulierakis, 21, but could face competition from Crystal Palace and Aston Villa for the Greece centre-back. (Caught Offside)
Brugges cb joel ordonez apparently on radar accoridng to some papers. Be a good opportunity to look at him tomorrow night
I liked the look of him in the group game.
Brugges cb joel ordonez apparently on radar accoridng to some papers. Be a good opportunity to look at him tomorrow night
I liked the look of him in the group game.
What was the verdict?
Did I read today that Marco Asensio being linked with C115ty?
Joshua Kimmich avalanche on a free transfer in the summer.
He would be magnificent move.
Joshua Kimmich avalanche on a free transfer in the summer.
He would be magnificent move.
Snow chance of that happening
Joshua Kimmich avalanche on a free transfer in the summer.
He would be magnificent move.
Snow chance of that happening
It'll be a crushing disappointment if it doesn't.
Joshua Kimmich avalanche on a free transfer in the summer.
He would be magnificent move.
Snow chance of that happening
It'll be a crushing disappointment if it doesn't.
oh it’s supposed to say available not avalanche it’s the predictive text.
Sorry !
We're going off piste here.
oh it’s supposed to say available not avalanche it’s the predictive text.
Sorry !
I wish I had a lifestyle in which the word avalanche took precedence over available on my phone!
oh it’s supposed to say available not avalanche it’s the predictive text.
Sorry !
I wish I had a lifestyle in which the word avalanche took precedence over available on my phone!
I'm just surprised that a St. Bernard can use a phone.
Roma and England striker Tammy Abraham, 27, who is currently on loan at AC Milan, has told friends he is keen to return to Aston Villa this summer!Imagine the end of season piss up.
Source: Wayne Vasey Football Insider.
Imagine if he and Grealish returned -talk about Squad options!
I see Leroy Sane and Angel Gomes are available this summer on free transfers.
They been rumoured to other Prem Clubs.
Sort of players have to be in the mix for if possible.
I see Leroy Sane and Angel Gomes are available this summer on free transfers.
They been rumoured to other Prem Clubs.
Sort of players have to be in the mix for if possible.
I'd take Gomes, he's a very good player and I think would fit in really well for us. Sane is a difficult one, on paper his stats are good and he has a lot of ability but there's something about him that makes me think he'd be an awful signing for a club like us. I reckon he'll end up in Saudi.
The other ones worth keeping an eye on (ignoring the Liverpool trio) are Jonathan David, Tyreik Mitchell and Ola Aina who are all very good players on a free*.
Watkins leaving for a fee of £70m only considered if he doesn’t deliver us the Champions League or FA Cup. Like failing drastically when he should be scoring a chance .Leon Bailey or Louis Barry?
Please consider though we could not sell him if he wins us those trophies!
Wilson has to behind Leon Barry. I wonder if Barry will he be sold do you think? maybe similar buy back move to Cam Archer.
My guess is Watkins leaves and we don't bring in another out and out centre-forward. Malen and/or Rashy, if he stays, play and we change our set-up a little bit. Wilson and Jimoh get the odd game assuming the former stays and neither are sent on loan.
Jonathan David has never really impressed whenever I've seen him, albeit in truth not that much. Gomes wouldn't be a bad addition.
Watkins can play for another 7-8 years so being 30 isn’t an issue i
As much he has petrol left in the tank, selling 30 year old Ollie for a good price and getting 25 year old Jonathan David on a free would be a super deal. 14 goals and 3 assists in Ligue 1 this season from 24 games is good going.
As much he has petrol left in the tank, selling 30 year old Ollie for a good price and getting 25 year old Jonathan David on a free would be a super deal. 14 goals and 3 assists in Ligue 1 this season from 24 games is good going.
I’d disagree…sign David absolutely but to compete with Ollie not replace him
I reckon we sell him far cheaper than he's worth like we did Luiz, because of the Status Quo Preservation rules.
I reckon we sell him far cheaper than he's worth like we did Luiz, because of the Status Quo Preservation rules.
This is what I think, and I think people are going to be obviously disappointed with the price.
As much he has petrol left in the tank, selling 30 year old Ollie for a good price and getting 25 year old Jonathan David on a free would be a super deal. 14 goals and 3 assists in Ligue 1 this season from 24 games is good going.
I'm not sure why people don't rate him. Sure, the French Ligue stats might be misleading, but 7 goals in 10 CL games for Lille scoring Liverpool, Dortmund, both Madrid's, and Juve shows he can take chances against usually tight defenses. Especially on a free.
Jonathan David has never really impressed whenever I've seen him, albeit in truth not that much. Gomes wouldn't be a bad addition.
Yes there is a big fuss about him , but i haven’t seen anything much 🤔
🚨 Aston Villa are among clubs tracking Cardiff City’s Troy Perrett.
@NizaarKinsella
Can anybody explain how Chelsea can sign players outside the window?They've agreed a deal. The player still plays for their current club until next summer or whatever date they've agreed on. They agreed a deal for Geovany Quenda 3 days for £40 million but won't join up with them until 2026.
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This 30 years old and not up to it is pure folly.As much he has petrol left in the tank, selling 30 year old Ollie for a good price and getting 25 year old Jonathan David on a free would be a super deal. 14 goals and 3 assists in Ligue 1 this season from 24 games is good going.
I’d disagree…sign David absolutely but to compete with Ollie not replace him
I’d love to have both. But in reality we will still need to address PSR/FFP play rules in the summer. Especially if we plan to sign Asensio and Rashford.
Also, nobody is saying that he's "not up to it". Simply that if an opportunity for a longer-term striker appears, this summer or next would be the obvious time to sell when there would be good value in selling.
Andy Cole was still perfectly decent when Man Utd sold him as a 29 year old and he scored another 60 odd Premier League goals after he left. But getting £8m for him and bringing in Van Nistelrooy the same summer was clearly the right thing to do.
I reckon we sell him far cheaper than he's worth like we did Luiz, because of the Status Quo Preservation rules.
This is what I think, and I think people are going to be obviously disappointed with the price.
We’d need to spend £40m plus to replace him so I struggle to see the point when we know he’s good enough. Jonathan David, on a free, could be the wild card that unlocks everything.
News now reporting (which is laughable in itself) that due to the improvement and call up of Rashford the redfilth want to change the agreed transfer fee we apparently have with them as part of the loan.
I bet they do.
I bet they want all their players to come here on some sort of training camp where they can be coached by Professor Emery to improve them.
Wankers
Newsnow doesn't report anything, it is a News aggregator service.
The article in question is from SportsMole via Football Insider.
I agree with your sentiment, though.
Aston Villa might sell Argentine midfielder Enzo Barrenechea, 23, to Valencia in the summer following a successful loan spell with the Spanish club. (Athletic - subscription required)
Makes sense.QuoteAston Villa might sell Argentine midfielder Enzo Barrenechea, 23, to Valencia in the summer following a successful loan spell with the Spanish club. (Athletic - subscription required)
Selling
El Baron would be say £30m
And with Junior £20m
Barry £20m
Buendia £30m
that’s £100m of player sales and would think that be a target.
QuoteAston Villa might sell Argentine midfielder Enzo Barrenechea, 23, to Valencia in the summer following a successful loan spell with the Spanish club. (Athletic - subscription required)
Going rates ?! no ? It’s what market I think markets would say.
couple of examples then for prices and fees:Going rates ?! no ? It’s what market I think markets would say.
Iling-Junior was valued at £11.8m when we signed him. Would you say he's doubled in value over the last seven months?
The record fee for a player based on what they did at League One level is when we paid £8m for Fabian Delph. Nobody is spending more than that on Barry, particularly given the long time he's already spend out injured.
Buendia was £33m as a highly-rated 24 year old. The barely-played-in-two-years 28 year old version is not being sold for similar money.
Etc.
Aren't Valencia skint?
Wonder if we will do some sale with a buy back clause.
Makes sense.QuoteAston Villa might sell Argentine midfielder Enzo Barrenechea, 23, to Valencia in the summer following a successful loan spell with the Spanish club. (Athletic - subscription required)
I always felt this guy and even more than Junior were just sweeteners for Douglas Luiz transfer .
Barrenechea would just be saleable asset because McKennie was first choice and would have been in the first team squad
Selling
El Baron would be say £30m
And with Junior £20m
Barry £20m
Buendia £30m
that’s £100m of player sales and would think that be a target.
🚨🧨 RB Leipzig are expected to sign Kosta Nedeljković on a permanent deal — package worth around €15m.
@philipphinze24
🚨🧨 RB Leipzig are expected to sign Kosta Nedeljković on a permanent deal — package worth around €15m.
@philipphinze24
Gosh forgot about him , hope not
🚨🧨 RB Leipzig are expected to sign Kosta Nedeljković on a permanent deal — package worth around €15m.
@philipphinze24
Gosh forgot about him , hope not
On his few appearances so far Garcia looks a better player.
Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
“Not having a pop” is like starting a conversation “…no disrespect” to someone followed by every word being disrespectful.
Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
“Not having a pop” is like starting a conversation “…no disrespect” to someone followed by every word being disrespectful.
I don't that works at all in this case, it's questioning the validity of the article itself rather than the poster sharing g it.
Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
“Not having a pop” is like starting a conversation “…no disrespect” to someone followed by every word being disrespectful.
This Radio WM drivel is on multiple threads.It’s Taylor take on things with snippets of insightful opinion which I thought I would share across the relevant threads and be specific. That was all . I was only trying to help for ease of use putting in the various sections and if anyone wanting to take up anything WM Mike Taylor had said that was why.
Please. do you mind Drummond . could you stop the derogatory comments.Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
“Not having a pop” is like starting a conversation “…no disrespect” to someone followed by every word being disrespectful.
I don't that works at all in this case, it's questioning the validity of the article itself rather than the poster sharing g it.
The poster sharing git.
Please. do you mind Drummond . could you stop the derogatory comments.Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
“Not having a pop” is like starting a conversation “…no disrespect” to someone followed by every word being disrespectful.
I don't that works at all in this case, it's questioning the validity of the article itself rather than the poster sharing g it.
The poster sharing git.
Well I think you know I feel about name calling but will move on.
Well I think you know I feel about name calling but will move on.
Back to transfers :
TEAMtalk understands that Villa have the option to make Rashford’s loan deal permanent in the summer transfer window for £40million.
Sources have told TEAMtalk that Villa have not yet decided whether or not they will trigger that option.
The Villans are still evaluating Rashford and want to see him enjoy a run of sustained good form and high-level performances up to the end of the season.
We understand that the forward also has plenty of opportunities elsewhere, and sources suggest a move abroad is still something that is of interest to Rashford.
Barcelona are among the sides keeping tabs on the Englishman’s situation and will make a move if they feel a deal is there to be done.
Sources say that the 27-year-old will not make any final calls on his future until the summer and wants to evaluate all the opportunities on the table.
Well I think you know I feel about name calling but will move on.
Back to transfers :
TEAMtalk understands that Villa have the option to make Rashford’s loan deal permanent in the summer transfer window for £40million.
Sources have told TEAMtalk that Villa have not yet decided whether or not they will trigger that option.
The Villans are still evaluating Rashford and want to see him enjoy a run of sustained good form and high-level performances up to the end of the season.
We understand that the forward also has plenty of opportunities elsewhere, and sources suggest a move abroad is still something that is of interest to Rashford.
Barcelona are among the sides keeping tabs on the Englishman’s situation and will make a move if they feel a deal is there to be done.
Sources say that the 27-year-old will not make any final calls on his future until the summer and wants to evaluate all the opportunities on the table.
Unless he goes on a unbelievable goal scoring run i dont think we will take the option up due to FFP. If FFP wasnt a factor then we would be signing him
There's going to be the inevitable Grealish talk especially with possibility he actually will leave Man City in the summer.
Not having a pop at you, F-V, but it's incredible that anyone might genuinely think Radio WM's Mick Taylor's idea on transfer plans is any more informed or likely to be accurate than asking, say, a random person on the street, a dead person or a cat the same question.
“Not having a pop” is like starting a conversation “…no disrespect” to someone followed by every word being disrespectful.
I don't that works at all in this case, it's questioning the validity of the article itself rather than the poster sharing g it.
Barcelona would be willing to sell Spain forward Ferran Torres, 25, for about £30m with Aston Villa, Liverpool and Manchester United interested in the former Manchester City attacker. (Fichajes - in Spanish)
Nottingham Forest will revive their interest in Juventus' Douglas Luiz this summer, after failing with a January bid for 26-year-old Brazil midfielder. (Tuttosport - in Italian)
QuoteNottingham Forest will revive their interest in Juventus' Douglas Luiz this summer, after failing with a January bid for 26-year-old Brazil midfielder. (Tuttosport - in Italian)
Goalkeeper Olsen is out of contract so will we take another experienced 30+ Keeper for back up if he goes ?
We've got some good young keepers coming through. The lad on loan at Crewe has kept a lot of clean sheets and we don't know whether Gauci is ready. It will be interesting to see if any of these guys are ready to be number 2.
Johnson can kick the long ball well ..I'm trying to recall his short passing game. Great shot stopping ability.Goalkeeper Olsen is out of contract so will we take another experienced 30+ Keeper for back up if he goes ?
Sam Johnson - decent still and seemingly happy to keep the bench warm
I’m not sure David De Gea would be suited to our style of play. That’s why Man Utd got rid.
You’ve got Marschall at Crewe, Gauci at Barnsley and Wright at Unai’s Spanish club having prolonged loan experience, Zych did last season too so you’d expect a move around & one or more of those to be kept around the squad next season - if Olsen does go a Sam Johnstone style signing would seem logical…maybe look into EFL at Cooper at Sheff Utd or Tickle at Wigan…maybe even a return for Victor Johansson.But those EFL keepers aren't calibre of Olsen in experience levels . Emery wouldn't be doing that would he? I suppose if not in champions league or Europa league it's feasible but only having one experienced goal keeper could be an issue.
The absolute key is that Martinez is still here next season
Gauci is a full international and should be an adequate substitute for Emi when necessary
They did that before and it's completely pointless unless you persuade the whole of Europe (plus Saudi, the US, etc) to do the same. Stupid idea otherwise.
I'd have Madueke.
Maignan, on a free would want huge wages, I cant see us wanting to pay those, as well as Emi, unless he's off.
I'd have Madueke.
Me too.
Have I missed something, why would Chelsea sell Madueke
A million squid, you say?! Are they selling the groundsman?Have I missed something, why would Chelsea sell Madueke
Same reason they sell loads of players every year, keep the PSR wolves from the door. They usually raise well over a million quid in player sales every summer.
Have I missed something, why would Chelsea sell Madueke
Same reason they sell loads of players every year, keep the PSR wolves from the door. They usually raise well over a million quid in player sales every summer.
Have I missed something, why would Chelsea sell Madueke
Same reason they sell loads of players every year, keep the PSR wolves from the door. They usually raise well over a million quid in player sales every summer.
A million squid, you say?! Are they selling the groundsman?
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
the Chelsea fan I know isn’t impressed. His work rate being an issue.
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
the Chelsea fan I know isn’t impressed. His work rate being an issue.
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
the Chelsea fan I know isn’t impressed. His work rate being an issue.
Work rate is almost always what fans complain about first and most of the time it means nothing.
Player out of form - not working hard enough.
Player is asked to play out of position or do a job they're not used to and struggles - not working hard enough.
Player isn't picked for a few weeks - not working hard enough.
Player isn't doing anything wrong but the club owner and new manager want to get his wages out of the club - not working hard enough.
their manager has mentioned it too. I’ve no skin in the game just passing on what I’d been told from a season ticket holder.
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
the Chelsea fan I know isn’t impressed. His work rate being an issue.
Work rate is almost always what fans complain about first and most of the time it means nothing.
Player out of form - not working hard enough.
Player is asked to play out of position or do a job they're not used to and struggles - not working hard enough.
Player isn't picked for a few weeks - not working hard enough.
Player isn't doing anything wrong but the club owner and new manager want to get his wages out of the club - not working hard enough.
Rashford not working hard enough was a pretty common theme for a long time. Thankfully, he works his bollocks off for us so far so maybe it wasn't true.
Don't see them selling one of their better players , they've plenty before him they will offload.
the Chelsea fan I know isn’t impressed. His work rate being an issue.
Work rate is almost always what fans complain about first and most of the time it means nothing.
Player out of form - not working hard enough.
Player is asked to play out of position or do a job they're not used to and struggles - not working hard enough.
Player isn't picked for a few weeks - not working hard enough.
Player isn't doing anything wrong but the club owner and new manager want to get his wages out of the club - not working hard enough.
Exactly & it’s normally wingers who that accusation is pointed at first. Strikers are quiet in a game it’s because they aren’t getting service…wingers are quiet it is because they aren’t working hard enough….
I like Madueke but I hope Bailey spends they next couple of months reminding us of Bailey of last season
Rashford not working hard enough was a pretty common theme for a long time. Thankfully, he works his bollocks off for us so far so maybe it wasn't true.
Def no from me
Hes aged a year in the time it takes to read this article.
https://www.football365.com/news/aston-villa-tempting-offer-tottenham-ready-spurs-prepare-exit-55m-star
Def no from meRomero is the sort of CB that Ollie wishes he could play against every week. He's just not a very good player, and if the money quoted (from F-V's hot tip-off) is true let's leave him for Manure or Chelsea.
Hes aged a year in the time it takes to read this article.
https://www.football365.com/news/aston-villa-tempting-offer-tottenham-ready-spurs-prepare-exit-55m-star (https://www.football365.com/news/aston-villa-tempting-offer-tottenham-ready-spurs-prepare-exit-55m-star)
Yes for £55m despite being a world cup winner and knowing Martinez and speaking spanish only way he would be signed would think have to be one of those player trades - they can have Onana.Yeah, but can he do it on a cold Tuesday night in Stoke? ...
Monchi spoke quite a bit about Guler so there does seem to be interest there. He still seems to be part of Madrid's plans and the player has been quoted as saying he wants to make at Madrid. I wouldn't be surprised if we took him on a season-long loan and then look at things again at the end of it. Such moves could help us balance PSR as well.
Aston Villa have a clear path to pursue Real Madrid's 20-year-old winger Arda Guler after Liverpool ended their interest in the Turkey international. https://www.teamtalk.com/aston-villa/arda-guler-aston-villa-real-madrid-monchi
In other news : Brazil international Antony, 25, has been identified as a top target for Arsenal with the Manchester United winger impressing during a loan spell at Real Betis.
https://www.fichajes.net/noticias/prioridad-mikel-arteta-reforzar-ataque-arsenal-verano-20250403.html
Aston Villa have been given encouragement by Chelsea over a deal to sign 23-year-old England winger Noni Madueke, with the player unhappy about his lack of game time at Stamford Bridge. (Football Insider)
'Rayan' sounds at least a bit exotic but in general it seems the standard of Brazillian wonderkid names have dropped significantly in recent years, I'm half expecting to be linked to Trevorinho or Wayneberto.
Cliverson
'Rayan' sounds at least a bit exotic but in general it seems the standard of Brazillian wonderkid names have dropped significantly in recent years, I'm half expecting to be linked to Trevorinho or Wayneberto.
We'll struggle to get a less exotic name than Wesley. Imagine being a centre-forward from the samba nation and being named after the shittest one on Star Trek.
🚨 Aston Villa are interested in Eyüpspor goalkeeper Berke Özer.
Should probably them loan him to a Yorkshire club for a bit so he feels at home.Rotherham would seem apt.
Was reading some stuff in other threads and got me thinking about squad planning for next season ...I agree with most of what you say but I'd definitely keep Barrenechea: we've learned this season that midfield injuries are damaging, and if we have Euro-involvement next season the pressure would grow.
... Keep Bogarde, Kesler-Hayden and Barry around maybe.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind keeping Barrenechea at all. Don't sell Kamara though. For the love of God.If your life expectancy is 74 then you are middle aged, also grounds for divorce, make sure you the bath or shower is ready for when she returns.
Also, more importantly, I've gone big on middle-aged there. I'm 37. Still hanging on, or am I in that bracket?
I like Bogarde as a prospect but the idea of him being a viable alternative to Kamara is insane. I don’t know about Enzo, but I’d be amazed if he’s near the level of Bouba.I'm not trying to sell Kamara but he might be the sacrificial lamb at the altar of PSR / FFP.
🚨 Aston Villa are interested in Eyüpspor goalkeeper Berke Özer.
We seems to be shopping in Türkiye a lot
I like Bogarde as a prospect but the idea of him being a viable alternative to Kamara is insane. I don’t know about Enzo, but I’d be amazed if he’s near the level of Bouba.
Seems to be rumors brewing that Nypan has chosen us.
Last I heard we were favourites to sign those 2 Greek kids who are meant to be a bit special too.
That would be nice, he looks right handy.
@David_OrnsteinYes he is supposed to be the next big thing from Norway. I have only seen some clips of him on the telly news when he scores for Rosenborg and there he look very composed/ talented for a young one. What is very interesting is that he has chosen to come to us if so cause there have been made known a lot here that they (he, his dad and agents and the like) have had big process to make sure they make the right club for him in terms of whats best for the lad in every sense of it (money probl not the most important but more like having good surroundings and getting the right kind of support to develop).
🚨 Aston Villa working to close deal for Sverre Nypan from Rosenborg. Heavily pursued by likes of Arsenal + Girona but #AVFC confident 18yo midfielder keen to join. Must still agree fee & personal terms so not done but attempting to finalise
@TheAthleticFC
https://x.com/scoutedftbl/status/1882853053369626857?s=08
If Nypan's this good - then Wow!!
https://x.com/scoutedftbl/status/1882853053369626857?s=08
If Nypan's this good - then Wow!!
What does it say? I can only read the first Tweet.
Having read it a couple of times one thing jumps out. NORWEGIAN MEATBALL
The Chosen One: Sverre Halseth Nypan.
Obligatory Youtube skills video with crappy music:
Obligatory Youtube skills video with crappy music:
A couple of those passes (around ~1:30) are Tielemans-esque.
Crystal Palace are interested in a move for Manchester United and England forward Marcus Rashford, 27, following his impressive loan spell at Aston Villa. (TheSunScum)
https://x.com/scoutedftbl/status/1882853053369626857?s=08Nypan on fire.
If Nypan's this good - then Wow!!
I expect they will get loads for Eze, and want to buy someone in for half, but the wages.......
It looks as though Nypan is done and dusted. Needs his own thread from those who care about that sort of thing.
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Nypan is being talked about in the same vein as Yamal and Doue, if he comes close to reaching his potential he's going to be world class. Dibling looks good but he's nowhere near that level.
It looks as though Nypan is done and dusted. Needs his own thread from those who care about that sort of thing.
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Nypan is being talked about in the same vein as Yamal and Doue, if he comes close to reaching his potential he's going to be world class. Dibling looks good but he's nowhere near that level.
And Dibbling will cost a hell of a lot more.
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Nypan is being talked about in the same vein as Yamal and Doue, if he comes close to reaching his potential he's going to be world class. Dibling looks good but he's nowhere near that level.
And Dibbling will cost a hell of a lot more.
Figures I've seen for Nypan are £10-12.5m.
It looks as though Nypan is done and dusted. Needs his own thread from those who care about that sort of thing.
£60m? Southampton supposedly demanding £100m.Ha ha ha, fair enough
It looks as though Nypan is done and dusted. Needs his own thread from those who care about that sort of thing.
Nooo, have we learnt nothing from the Loïc Badé saga?
Dibling will be around 30m, only one season in the prem. Tony Gords had a couple of seasons and produced regularly before he got his big move to Newcastle for 45m. I guess saints could bolster the fee with addons such as england caps etc.
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Nypan is being talked about in the same vein as Yamal and Doue, if he comes close to reaching his potential he's going to be world class. Dibling looks good but he's nowhere near that level.
And Dibbling will cost a hell of a lot more.
Figures I've seen for Nypan are £10-12.5m.
I know but Bade is a ******, this kid ain’t.It looks as though Nypan is done and dusted. Needs his own thread from those who care about that sort of thing.
Nooo, have we learnt nothing from the Loïc Badé saga?
Sorry Aftab, I have to agree with AD here. Let's not tempt fate until we have something more concrete.
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Nypan is being talked about in the same vein as Yamal and Doue, if he comes close to reaching his potential he's going to be world class. Dibling looks good but he's nowhere near that level.
And Dibbling will cost a hell of a lot more.
Figures I've seen for Nypan are £10-12.5m.
For context Bergvall at Spurs cost £8.5m according to Wiki. Similar age and back-story. The trajectory of their careers could be completely different of course but the London media are happy to push him forward as a future star.
The other youngster they signed (from Leeds - Gray?) cost way more but I think there’s an English tax being applied, which would also apply to Dibbling in my opinion.
Leeds always get linked to him because he did great under Farke at Norwich. They're basically up now so we might get a good fee out of them.
Leeds always get linked to him because he did great under Farke at Norwich. They're basically up now so we might get a good fee out of them.
Don’t give up hope yet. It IS Leeds after all. Sheff Utd winning, Leeds still to play.
Liverpool are closely monitoring 29-year-old England striker Ollie Watkins' situation at Aston Villa as they plot an alternative signing to Newcastle and Sweden forward Alexander Isak, 25. (Football Insider)
I have a feeling Ramsey will be sold this summer.
Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.
I can see Villa doing this because we are little old Villa and we cave in when Manchester United come callingApparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.
That's probably just made up rubbish rather than what Man Utd are planning.
I hope we can do what we need to by pruning rather than selling anyone we don’t want to.
I hope we can do what we need to by pruning rather than selling anyone we don’t want to.
Well we sold two we didn’t want to last window and it didn’t work out to bad. In Monchi we trust
Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.Yeah? Well I’m considering having a threesome that includes me, Sabre off of Gladiators, and Kylie when she was at her peak but it ain’t fucking happening and neither is that.
Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.Yeah? Well I’m considering having a threesome that includes me, Sabre off of Gladiators, and Kylie when she was at her peak but it ain’t fucking happening and neither is that.
When was Kylies peak - from Neighbours, or her noughties revival? Also - I dont understand how if Ollie woul be moving - why would rogers too?Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.Yeah? Well I’m considering having a threesome that includes me, Sabre off of Gladiators, and Kylie when she was at her peak but it ain’t fucking happening and neither is that.
Nice choices!
When was Kylies peak - from Neighbours, or her noughties revival? Also - I dont understand how if Ollie woul be moving - why would rogers too?Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.Yeah? Well I’m considering having a threesome that includes me, Sabre off of Gladiators, and Kylie when she was at her peak but it ain’t fucking happening and neither is that.
Nice choices!
When was Kylies peak - from Neighbours, or her noughties revival? Also - I dont understand how if Ollie woul be moving - why would rogers too?Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.Yeah? Well I’m considering having a threesome that includes me, Sabre off of Gladiators, and Kylie when she was at her peak but it ain’t fucking happening and neither is that.
Nice choices!
I have a feeling Ramsey will be sold this summer.
Is Nylan better that the lad (Dibbling?) from Southampton - look very similar in age and play
Nypan is being talked about in the same vein as Yamal and Doue, if he comes close to reaching his potential he's going to be world class. Dibling looks good but he's nowhere near that level.
The Hutchence awakening years…When was Kylies peak - from Neighbours, or her noughties revival? Also - I dont understand how if Ollie woul be moving - why would rogers too?Apparently ManUre are considering a swap with Marcus coming to us and Ollie heading in the opposite direction. They might be considering it but I bet we're not and neither is Ollie. They also think they are taking Rogers to start their rebuild. Delusional fucks.Yeah? Well I’m considering having a threesome that includes me, Sabre off of Gladiators, and Kylie when she was at her peak but it ain’t fucking happening and neither is that.
Nice choices!
Post-Neighbours, early to mid 90's, 'Better the Devil' era for me, Clive.
I hope we can do what we need to by pruning rather than selling anyone we don’t want to.
If we need to sell one of our better players this summer I hope it isn’t Ramsey. If anyone it’d be Bailey for me.
By Ole K. Sagbakken Aksel Murvold
A few hours before Sverre Nypan was to go out and beat Vålerenga, father and advisor Arne Nypan met Aston Villa's sporting director.
Sverre Nypan recovered unscathed from the tackle from Fidel Ambina. Aston Villa was in the stands. Photo: Richard Sagen
- It was pleasant, Nypan tells Adresseavisen.
He continues:
- But there was no form of negotiation. Just a very pleasant meeting before an exciting football match.
Fantastically good club
It was Monday, eight days ago, that Adresseavisen wrote that it is now going to Aston Villa for RBK's super talent.
The Villa link naturally gained further traction when Ramon Rodrigues Verdejo, better known as Monchi, showed up at RBK's player hotel in Helsfyr before the big match against Vålerenga. He is the sporting director of Aston Villa, and was there with scout Alberto Benito.
Arne Nypan is the father and advisor to RBK's super talent. From the stands, he saw RBK win 2–0, and that Nypan recovered unscathed from a brutal tackle in the first half.
Monchi is said to have not met Sverre Nypan himself on Monday. But he had arranged a meeting with his father and advisor Arne a couple of hours before kick-off.
– It's no secret that we visited Aston Villa in January. But this was a completely informal meeting. A nice "thank you for last time", says Nypan on Tuesday. They talked for half an hour.
Adressa has written that it's going towards Villa. What can you say about Sverre and his future now?
– I understand that there are many rumors surrounding Sverre. Villa is also a big and fantastic club. Beyond that, I have no comment, he replies.
Staying away
Nypan currently sits on the corporate management of Sparebank1 SMN, and is also on the RBK board. But again, he is clear that he is staying away from any negotiations between RBK and a new club.
– Far from it. I am categorical about that, he says.
Star agent Rafaela Pimenta is representing Nypan.
Tight-mouthed 18-year-old
After the match on Monday night, Adresseavisen spoke to the teenager himself. He was - as usual - tight-lipped about the topic of "his own future":
– I have no comment on that. I didn't know he was here. My focus was on the match. I am here as a Rosenborg player, and we won 2–0. Delicious, he says.
RBK's sporting director Mikael Dorsin was also in Oslo:
- He is probably here to look at players, Dorsin told Adresseavisen. (With a 😉)
He did not want to comment on whether he was in contact with Monchi in connection with the visit to Oslo.
TV 2 understands: Agreement with English major club.
A decision is seriously approaching regarding Sverre Nypan's future. The 18-year-old is said to have already made up his mind. - By Per-Atle Karlsen
According to TV 2's information, Sverre Nypan is to agree with Aston Villa on the personal terms.
Aston Villa is, after all signs, Sverre Nypan's new club, as first reported by Adresseavisen last week.
On Monday, Villa's sporting director Ramón Rodríguez Verdejo, better known as Monchi, was observed at Intility Stadium in the match between Vålerenga and Rosenborg.
He is not said to have met Nypan himself on the trip to the capital, but according to TV 2's information, the Birmingham club has now practically agreed with the 18-year-old on the personal terms.
Rosenborg has, as TV 2 understands it, still not formally accepted a bid for its prodigy, but it is expected that the clubs will come to an agreement.
TV 2 has previously reported that the Trøndelag team is demanding around 150 million kroner (£11M) to release their midfield jewel.
The undersigned visited Villa's training facility last week, where Unai Emery and Co are now preparing to welcome the Trøndelag team this summer.
While nothing has been signed, there is still room for speculation. Because where the club choice was initially supposed to have been between Villa, Manchester City and Arsenal. TV 2 has been informed that Nottingham Forest has thrown themselves into the fight for the 18-year-old's signature at the twelfth hour.
The interest from Forest probably comes too late, as Nypan has already decided that Villa Park will be the next stop.
RBK's sporting director Mikael Dorsin has not responded to TV 2's inquiries on Tuesday.
Bailey will be next Villa player sold to fund next spending spree I bet. Saudis to come in and give them £50m+ again.
Aston Villa are set to beat Arsenal and Manchester City to the signing of Rosenborg's 18-year-old Norway Under-21s midfielder Sverre Nypan. (Times - subscription required)
More papertalk on Nypan, this time from the Times (Copy paste time someone).
QuoteBailey will be next Villa player sold to fund next spending spree I bet. Saudis to come in and give them £50m+ again.
Off a Newcastle forum without a hint of irony. Seriously 😂
QuoteBailey will be next Villa player sold to fund next spending spree I bet. Saudis to come in and give them £50m+ again.
Off a Newcastle forum without a hint of irony. Seriously 😂
Fingers crossed. I do like him, and maybe he could be great again next season, but I’m hoping we can get good money for players who haven’t contributed much this season and keep the ones who have.
Burnley want KHH apparently so that will be the first PSR sale of the summer.That’ll be a really good move for him…
Burnley want KHH apparently so that will be the first PSR sale of the summer.
Burnley want KHH apparently so that will be the first PSR sale of the summer.
Isn't that a Queens of the Stone Age song?
Arab Strap I thinkBurnley want KHH apparently so that will be the first PSR sale of the summer.
Isn't that a Queens of the Stone Age song?
Burnley want KHH apparently so that will be the first PSR sale of the summer.KKH would be a great challenge for Garcia, with Cash going for PSR reasons.
Burnley want KHH apparently so that will be the first PSR sale of the summer.KKH would be a great challenge for Garcia, with Cash going for PSR reasons.
Emery seems to really like Cash for some reason.
Emery seems to really like Cash for some reason.
Aston Villa have held internal discussions about a potential move for Manchester City's 33-year-old Belgium midfielder Kevin de Bruyne, who will leave Etihad Stadium this summer. (Sky Sports)
Manchester United will face stiff competition to sign Brazil international Matheus Cunha, 25, with Arsenal and Aston Villa among five Premier League clubs interested in the Wolves forward. (Sky Sports, external)
Even at his age, he was probably still the best player of the pitch last night. Wouldnt generally want to be the club for a last pay day for over the hill former greats, but would be tempted to make an exception for De Bruyne.
Even at his age, he was probably still the best player of the pitch last night. Wouldnt generally want to be the club for a last pay day for over the hill former greats, but would be tempted to make an exception for De Bruyne.
Hmmm he’d be replacing either Rogers or Tielemans in the team so the net gain would be minimal. I appreciate we need squad depth but his wages are too much for a rotation option.
Even at his age, he was probably still the best player of the pitch last night. Wouldnt generally want to be the club for a last pay day for over the hill former greats, but would be tempted to make an exception for De Bruyne.
Hmmm he’d be replacing either Rogers or Tielemans in the team so the net gain would be minimal. I appreciate we need squad depth but his wages are too much for a rotation option.
Not so sure. I still think Rogers' best position is the 'Ramsey' role on the left and Tielemans as the 'number 8' alongside Kamara. Let's say we start next season with Watkins and Malen as our striker options, then I think the goal in tne summer would be to add real quality in the 'number 10' and wide right positions.
Anyone think Husijen is worth a £50mil gamble?
Just read that Coutinho has over a year left on his contract with us. Thanks SG.
Don't really see why. He's playing most games in a decent league. Surely loaning him and getting some of his wages paid makes more sense than cancelling his contract and paying it off in full?
Even at his age, he was probably still the best player of the pitch last night. Wouldnt generally want to be the club for a last pay day for over the hill former greats, but would be tempted to make an exception for De Bruyne.
Hmmm he’d be replacing either Rogers or Tielemans in the team so the net gain would be minimal. I appreciate we need squad depth but his wages are too much for a rotation option.
Not so sure. I still think Rogers' best position is the 'Ramsey' role on the left and Tielemans as the 'number 8' alongside Kamara. Let's say we start next season with Watkins and Malen as our striker options, then I think the goal in tne summer would be to add real quality in the 'number 10' and wide right positions.
De Bruyne would undoubtedly bring real quality, but he seems to get injured a lot and I think we need to add genuine pace in those two positions.
Aston Villa join the race for Diogo Jota
Diogo Jota is one of a number of high-profile stars that are expected to leave Anfield in the summer, as was exclusively revealed by Anfield Watch earlier this year.
A number of club’s have emerged as potential suitors for the 28-year-old, and a report form Empire of the Kop named Villa as an interested party.
Unai Emery’s side will be looking to strengthen a side that reached the quarter-final of the Champions League, and Jota’s reported price tag of £47 million has piqued their interest.
https://www.anfieldwatch.co.uk/liverpool-fc/news/liverpool-transfer-news-aston-villa-diogo-jota-summer-transfer/
This one is a new one, but £47m not for me.
With De Bruyne, it's all about his fitness. He's been brilliant recently but that's about 3 games in a 38 game season. If we could be confident that he's over his injury problems, or agree a deal that was structured in a way to protect against risk, then yes do it. But we don't want the De Bruyne that City have had for the previous 31 games.
With De Bruyne, it's all about his fitness. He's been brilliant recently but that's about 3 games in a 38 game season. If we could be confident that he's over his injury problems, or agree a deal that was structured in a way to protect against risk, then yes do it. But we don't want the De Bruyne that City have had for the previous 31 games.
I think he has stated he is finally "pain-free" the last three games as well.
Without wanting to sound like Demitri, if right-midfield is where we splurge I reckon Mbuemo is the stand-out candidate.
25 years old, only a year left on his contract and now Salah has signed his new deal then the obvious team ahead of us in the race might not want to prioritise right-midfield anymore.
Without wanting to sound like Demitri...
Without wanting to sound like Demitri, if right-midfield is where we splurge I reckon Mbuemo is the stand-out candidate.
25 years old, only a year left on his contract and now Salah has signed his new deal then the obvious team ahead of us in the race might not want to prioritise right-midfield anymore.
Without wanting to sound like Demitri...
Where's he gone anyway?
Jarrod Bowen would still be my number one target this summer and would offer Bailey in part-exchange.
Without wanting to sound like Demitri...
Where's he gone anyway?
Returned to VT apparently. Might have been missing Risso being the only person who was backing him up most cases.
We haven't lost Risso to VT (again), have we?
Without wanting to sound like Demitri...
Where's he gone anyway?
Signing players at 33 is rarely a wise move but De Bruyne is one of those rare ones that if you get the chance you should, he's so good. Comfortably the best player on the park the other night.
Especially in the age of 5 subs.
Pau and Cash have to go, debatable if any of our center mids are good enough behind kamara and tielimans.
Watkins can go too if the moneys right. He's just not as good as his goal output suggests. He's a great player but a team that is hamstrung by PSR cant afford to have a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 striker we need better.
I think Watkins will leave, he's already voicing his opinion about him not being selected, that's like putting himself in the shop window, so he's gone, Onana can't see the point, strange thing is we played a very average team today who have players like Wharton who we should get at any price because he's going to be massive, we don't attract these players, we also need to do something about a keeper.
I think Watkins will leave, he's already voicing his opinion about him not being selected, that's like putting himself in the shop window, so he's gone, Onana can't see the point, strange thing is we played a very average team today who have players like Wharton who we should get at any price because he's going to be massive, we don't attract these players, we also need to do something about a keeper.
We need to get the keeper we have refocused over the summer and back to his best.
I think Watkins will leave, he's already voicing his opinion about him not being selected, that's like putting himself in the shop window, so he's gone, Onana can't see the point, strange thing is we played a very average team today who have players like Wharton who we should get at any price because he's going to be massive, we don't attract these players, we also need to do something about a keeper.
We need to get the keeper we have refocused over the summer and back to his best.
That's why we need to get another class keeper in to put him under that kind of pressure, the blokes gone to sleep.
It's frustrating, but there's no need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.
We know these players are good and most will be good next season.
The most concerning thing is we tend to have these sorts of games 6 or 7 times a season - games where we just get smashed by 3 or 4 goals. That's what is separating us from being a silverware and guaranteed Top 4/5.
We need the same positions and upgrades as we did after Newcastle. A top class RB, a reserve keeper and a striker.
But for this season, we've got to get at least Europa League; otherwise our spending plans are screwed, and we'll probably have to sell at least one big player.
I don't like to criticise individuals because pretty much every squad member has been great for us, at least on occasion. However, I've coming round to the idea that the defence isn't good enough. How often do we win a game one-nil against the run of play, or even shitfest a nil-nil or one-all?
When we win, it's nearly always because we've been great going forward. The best sides twat opponents when they're on form, and find a way to at least not lose when they have an off day. We're fine at option A, option B... not so much.
Sorting the defence should be the next step in our development if we're ever going to approach massive matches like today away from Villa Park with confidence.
The odd mention of a squad 'overhaul' does make me laugh, though. Not long ago, we nearly took one of the best teams in Europe to extra time in the QF's of the Champions League, we don't need a whole new XI. On the whole we have the players to play exciting, front footed football, which is why it is baffling at this stage that we're not always going for it. Only Emery can answer this.
We need fine tuning, not an overhaul.
‘Nearly’ VS actual. We nearly went through against PSG. We nearly went through VS Olympiakos. We were in the semi final against bottom half EPL Palance. We achieved none of the goals here so yes, we do need an overhaul. Why would we not?
‘Nearly’ VS actual. We nearly went through against PSG. We nearly went through VS Olympiakos. We were in the semi final against bottom half EPL Palance. We achieved none of the goals here so yes, we do need an overhaul. Why would we not?
We need an overhaul about as much as we needed someone trying to snooker all the threads tonight. I can smell the 'pashun' from here.
Peace. I've been coping by drinking heavily.
Three or four players in, three or four players out.
Three or four players in, three or four players out.
Sure, it you mean the squad as it is today - but three of those "outs" will likely be us replacing Asensio, Disasi and Rashford.
We need fine tuning, not an overhaul.
Which contracts are coming to an end?
We need fine tuning, not an overhaul.
I don't think events are going to allow us to fine tune. Certain players are going to want to leave and play champions league football, certain players are coming to the end of their contracts and certain players are too expensive to sign on Conference league finances.
In a perfect world we'd keep nearly everyone and add a couple but I really can't see that happening. I think this was the last hurrah for this group of players and they've come up just short.
Pau and Cash have to go, debatable if any of our center mids are good enough behind kamara and tielimans.
Watkins can go too if the moneys right. He's just not as good as his goal output suggests. He's a great player but a team that is hamstrung by PSR cant afford to have a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 striker we need better.
Who is better than Watkins for our budget etc?
Isn’t the type of striker to fire you to a trophy is just nonsense - he’s a striker who regularly scores and sets up goals. That can help you win a trophy, it might not materialise in one because there are few opportunities to win them but that doesn’t mean it’s a problem with him.
I know it's not really relevant to anything but I'm actually a bit bored of watching Ollie up front for us.
I know his limitations inside out, when Duran or Rashford have played instead there's at at least an element that they could do something spectacular and turn the game, I get nothing like that from Watkins.
I know it's not really relevant to anything but I'm actually a bit bored of watching Ollie up front for us.
I know his limitations inside out, when Duran or Rashford have played instead there's at at least an element that they could do something spectacular and turn the game, I get nothing like that from Watkins.
He is someone who will be appreciated once he’s not here. I find the attitude towards Ollie from some so weird.
Nah the criticism Ollie gets is way over the top. He can be i proved upon, but there's other surgery I'd rather see carried out.
Nah the criticism Ollie gets is way over the top. He can be i proved upon, but there's other surgery I'd rather see carried out.
Yep. Right back being top of my list.
Pau and Cash have to go, debatable if any of our center mids are good enough behind kamara and tielimans.
Watkins can go too if the moneys right. He's just not as good as his goal output suggests. He's a great player but a team that is hamstrung by PSR cant afford to have a 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 striker we need better.
Who is better than Watkins for our budget etc?
There are plenty of strikers around the world who would offer a similar output who are just waiting for their chance. Mateta cost what 12 million? Took a while to settle but if flying now.
Bowen from West ham
Semih Kılıçsoywas heavily linked in Jan.
We have also been heavily linked with a move for Dušan Vlahović.
If we could break the bank Sesko would be the best out there at the moment I think but we have more chance of platting piss than signing him.
Alternatively sign someone on the way down
(giroud style) backed up by Rory Wilson for a
season.
This is probably the last window we could get really good money for Ollie I do expect him to go. Just preparing for life after Ollie, he's been a great servant but isn't the type of striker to fire you to a trophy
Nah the criticism Ollie gets is way over the top. He can be i proved upon, but there's other surgery I'd rather see carried out.
Yep. Right back being top of my list.
Agree on the right-back, but when Leeds or Burnley come in for the current one they won't be paying much more than we bought him for.
Nah the criticism Ollie gets is way over the top. He can be i proved upon, but there's other surgery I'd rather see carried out.
Yep. Right back being top of my list.
Agree on the right-back, but when Leeds or Burnley come in for the current one they won't be paying much more than we bought him for.
Nah the criticism Ollie gets is way over the top. He can be i proved upon, but there's other surgery I'd rather see carried out.
Yep. Right back being top of my list.
Agree on the right-back, but when Leeds or Burnley come in for the current one they won't be paying much more than we bought him for.
Cash is better than just signing for a promoted team come on now, I wonder if Forest might want him back as they'll need more numbers and experience for CL.
I'd like to see kkh given a chance in preseason.
Nah the criticism Ollie gets is way over the top. He can be i proved upon, but there's other surgery I'd rather see carried out.
Yep. Right back being top of my list.
Agree on the right-back, but when Leeds or Burnley come in for the current one they won't be paying much more than we bought him for.
Cash is better than just signing for a promoted team come on now, I wonder if Forest might want him back as they'll need more numbers and experience for CL.
Forest could sign someone from Brugge, Young Boys or Celtic if they just need numbers and CL experience. Much cheaper and just as good.
I think Bogarde should be given a go as defensive midfield. That is where he started and got brilliant marks when playing there. he has good control and can see a pass onward. It was only when we had injuries etc that he was brought into the first team as cover in different positions.
I think Bogarde should be given a go as defensive midfield. That is where he started and got brilliant marks when playing there. he has good control and can see a pass onward. It was only when we had injuries etc that he was brought into the first team as cover in different positions.
You could say the same about Barrenchea though as he's played a key role in Valencia's second half run of form which has seen them be third best since Corberan took over.
I'd like to see us go for Matias Soule, Argentinian, currently playing for Roma, plays off the right wing or attacking midfielder, seen him a few times lately, skilful, direct, scores goals, good ones too.
🚨 Aston Villa would be willing to pay the €25m release clause of RCD Espanyol keeper Joan García.Joan? For the ladies, perhaps?
@pericos_marca
🚨 Aston Villa would be willing to pay the €25m release clause of RCD Espanyol keeper Joan García.
@pericos_marca
He can't get in the Polish national team, which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. Good lad, good player, but not elite.
A few mentions of Torres being sold this summer, it's not happening, not unless he actively pushes for it or a daft bid comes in. He's Emery's man. I think it's just wishful thinking from those who really don't rate him. I prefer Mings, but I don't think the boss does.Correct
Some posters literally have obsessions.He can't get in the Polish national team, which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. Good lad, good player, but not elite.
It's neither here nor there. Konsa is in the England squad and has been rubbish for most of the season. Id give Garcia the start at Fulham though and if possible plenty of minutes before the seasons end. Maatsen the same on opposite flank.
We desperately need an injection of pace and width for the front line, a strong right-sided centre back, and a back-up keeper.
We desperately need an injection of pace and width for the front line, a strong right-sided centre back, and a back-up keeper.
September 2021. Leon against Everton. That seems quite a long time ago now.
If it does work out that we're in the Europa League next season, there will be opportunities to bring some kids through. That could figure in our strategy this summer, with Nypan being the type we go for. Keep a strong core of 18/19 senior players and have 3/4 young players who get more playing time than they might if we were in the CL.
If it does work out that we're in the Europa League next season, there will be opportunities to bring some kids through. That could figure in our strategy this summer, with Nypan being the type we go for. Keep a strong core of 18/19 senior players and have 3/4 young players who get more playing time than they might if we were in the CL.
18/19 is too small a squad to be competing on multiple fronts.
As we've seen in the last couple of seasons, if you get a couple of injuries in the same position, it can seriously damage you.
This season the sale of Carlos before getting a replacement (and while Torres was already injured) cost us valuable points in that period where we played West Ham, Wolves and Ipswich.
Get 7 points instead of 2 from that run of games and our Top 5 chances would be solid.
The key parts you missed were Europa League, and 3/4 young players of the sort of level Nypan is said to be at. If players like him are developed, that quickly becomes a squad of 21-23 on a manageable wage structure with a less competitive fixture list than when you're in the Champions League.
Would love Semenyo, he's ready for a move to European side if Bournemouth don't make it.
Will probably be slightly less than Mbuemo as Brentford want 50m +.
I think Bogarde should be given a go as defensive midfield. That is where he started and got brilliant marks when playing there. he has good control and can see a pass onward. It was only when we had injuries etc that he was brought into the first team as cover in different positions.
You could say the same about Barrenchea though as he's played a key role in Valencia's second half run of form which has seen them be third best since Corberan took over.
Enzo's done really well there. We'll be getting offers for him aswell especially as he's on the fringes of the Argentina squad now, think Atletico Madrid have been linked already.
Would love Semenyo, he's ready for a move to European side if Bournemouth don't make it.
Will probably be slightly less than Mbuemo as Brentford want 50m +.
Would love Semenyo, he's ready for a move to European side if Bournemouth don't make it.
Will probably be slightly less than Mbuemo as Brentford want 50m +.
I would take Mbuemo for £50m and consider that a bargain. Excellent player
The key parts you missed were Europa League, and 3/4 young players of the sort of level Nypan is said to be at. If players like him are developed, that quickly becomes a squad of 21-23 on a manageable wage structure with a less competitive fixture list than when you're in the Champions League.
Nypan is a precocious talent. There aren't 3 or 4 of him around that we would be able to sign at a reasonable cost. Also talent isn't a guarantee of success and most 18/19 year olds are not going to be immediate difference makers.
Would love Semenyo, he's ready for a move to European side if Bournemouth don't make it.
Will probably be slightly less than Mbuemo as Brentford want 50m +.
Roony Bardghji, is on that list of out of contract players. Wasn’t he supposed to be the next up and coming thing of European football a few seasons back?
Roony Bardghji, is on that list of out of contract players. Wasn’t he supposed to be the next up and coming thing of European football a few seasons back?
He's still only 19, rumoured to be signing for man city.
Roony Bardghji, is on that list of out of contract players. Wasn’t he supposed to be the next up and coming thing of European football a few seasons back?
He's still only 19, rumoured to be signing for man city.
Ah ok. I remember him scoring against Man U in Copenhagen a few years back and the talk about him, surprised to see he was still in Denmark.
Roony Bardghji, is on that list of out of contract players. Wasn’t he supposed to be the next up and coming thing of European football a few seasons back?
He's still only 19, rumoured to be signing for man city.
Ah ok. I remember him scoring against Man U in Copenhagen a few years back and the talk about him, surprised to see he was still in Denmark.
Wiki suggests he had a bad injury shortly after that goal.
I think Bogarde should be given a go as defensive midfield. That is where he started and got brilliant marks when playing there. he has good control and can see a pass onward. It was only when we had injuries etc that he was brought into the first team as cover in different positions.
You could say the same about Barrenchea though as he's played a key role in Valencia's second half run of form which has seen them be third best since Corberan took over.
Enzo's done really well there. We'll be getting offers for him aswell especially as he's on the fringes of the Argentina squad now, think Atletico Madrid have been linked already.
His value will increase more after a season in the PL. It’s a close call, but I’m be inclined to loan Bogarde to Ajax (I think there’s been links) and get Enzo in the group to see what he can do. Enzo, Kamara and Onana sees the DCM position well stocked.
Would love Semenyo, he's ready for a move to European side if Bournemouth don't make it.
Will probably be slightly less than Mbuemo as Brentford want 50m +.
I would take Mbuemo for £50m and consider that a bargain. Excellent player
I think Malen will our Mbuemo next season.
Would love Semenyo, he's ready for a move to European side if Bournemouth don't make it.
Will probably be slightly less than Mbuemo as Brentford want 50m +.
I would take Mbuemo for £50m and consider that a bargain. Excellent player
I think Malen will our Mbuemo next season.
I haven't been convinced by the bits we've seen of him on the right, so not quite sure about that tbh. I have mostly liked what I've seen of him through the middle so far though.
I think Forest have the option of an extra year on Aina.
The not-very-good Everton left-back?
I'd be very nervous indeed if we lost Martinez, Watkins and Kamara.
I'd be very nervous indeed if we lost Martinez, Watkins and Kamara.
If anyone needs to be sacrificed, I think it would be JJ.
DT suggesting Saudi's in for Bailey and Martinez.
DT suggesting Saudi's in for Bailey and Martinez.
Bailey I can see. Emi, why would he want to go to Saudi at this stage? There's still trophies in him.
Can the Saudis please sign Eze and Sarr, FFS.
🚨 Aston Villa want to fast-track a move to sign Espanyol keeper Joan García — Monchi is ready to pay the release clause.
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🚨 Aston Villa want to fast-track a move to sign Espanyol keeper Joan García — Monchi is ready to pay the release clause.
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Straight out on loan to Derby is the rumour.
The reason I suggested the three that I did is that we're rumoured to be looking at that Espanol keeper at over £20m, Watkins had a bid already and has various clubs interested, and Kamara hasn't signed a new deal and left his left contract on a Bosman.
I can see Bailey going to Saudi, he moves around, and the money would be big. Emi I'd think a Champions League side would come for him. He's played CHampions League with us, he's been to Wembley with us, he just hasn't won anything yet.
Sarr is our new Henri Lansbury: has worldies against us, then we sign him and he achieves the square root of sod all.
The reason I suggested the three that I did is that we're rumoured to be looking at that Espanol keeper at over £20m, Watkins had a bid already and has various clubs interested, and Kamara hasn't signed a new deal and left his left contract on a Bosman.
I can see Bailey going to Saudi, he moves around, and the money would be big. Emi I'd think a Champions League side would come for him. He's played CHampions League with us, he's been to Wembley with us, he just hasn't won anything yet.
If we did get an offer for Kamara that made sense financially I'd spend it all on Adam Wharton.
My only concern about Wharton is he fits very nicely in that system at Palace but has he shown anything to suggest he could evolve into something that’s more progressive? It’s all well and dandy playing for Palace in a 3-4-3 with a very limited game plan, and he does it brilliantly, but is there anything else in the locker.
Report: Aston Villa 'Intensifying Efforts' to Land Cherki
Aston Villa want to land more midfield recruits to bolster their squad.
https://www.givemesport.com/aston-villa-want-to-sign-future-ballon-dor-winner-alongside-nypan/
First time I have seen us linked to him. It would be a yes from me.
Cherki looks a great player in the making, and I think I read he has a release fee of under £30m which should be do-able?
Cherki looks a great player in the making, and I think I read he has a release fee of under £30m which should be do-able?
Last summer would have been the time - Fulham agreed a £12m fee but he didn't want to go there. Would have been very gettable.Sounds like Cherki? Cherki cheap; cheap.
Last summer would have been the time - Fulham agreed a £12m fee but he didn't want to go there. Would have been very gettable.Sounds like Cherki? Cherki cheap; cheap.
If anyone needs to be sacrificed, I think it would be JJ.
If anyone needs to be sacrificed, I think it would be JJ.
Id be looking to build the team for next year around Rogers and Ramsey. The most important thing this season was for Ramsey to prove his fitness which he has done, operating in about third gear. We are a far more balanced team when he plays on the left.
How ie Diaby doing?
I see Jhon scored a couple the other day
Given they were interested before and we apparently weren't totally against the idea, I can see Spurs chucking £40m or so at us for Ramsey.
And if it turns out we do need to sell someone with a good book value, I don't think it would be the biggest surprise in the world if it's him.
Hope it doesn't happen though, obviously.
🚨 Aston Villa are looking at Osasuna centre-back Enzo Boyomo as a potential summer signing — €25m release clause.
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If anyone needs to be sacrificed, I think it would be JJ.
Id be looking to build the team for next year around Rogers and Ramsey. The most important thing this season was for Ramsey to prove his fitness which he has done, operating in about third gear. We are a far more balanced team when he plays on the left.
I don't see the point of selling Ramsey. We know he's got several levels still to reach (and the ability to get there) but I don't think he's done enough recently to make anyone pay big money for him.
I wonder whether Cherki would be played as a 10 or on the right as he looks the type that could play any of the forward positions but also the type that Emery likes to use as a 10.
I wonder whether Cherki would be played as a 10 or on the right as he looks the type that could play any of the forward positions but also the type that Emery likes to use as a 10.
Aye, he looks like a younger, cheaper Asensio.
I wonder whether Cherki would be played as a 10 or on the right as he looks the type that could play any of the forward positions but also the type that Emery likes to use as a 10.
Aye, he looks like a younger, cheaper Asensio.
If we do sign Cherki, hope he doesn't turn into a turkey.
Reaches for hat and leaves.
If anyone needs to be sacrificed, I think it would be JJ.
Id be looking to build the team for next year around Rogers and Ramsey. The most important thing this season was for Ramsey to prove his fitness which he has done, operating in about third gear. We are a far more balanced team when he plays on the left.
I don't see the point of selling Ramsey. We know he's got several levels still to reach (and the ability to get there) but I don't think he's done enough recently to make anyone pay big money for him.
From a PSR perspective, anything we would get for JJ would be total profit
Sadly, the system encourages selling Academy players.
Iniquitous, but that's the consequence of a system designed by the Greedy6 to repel challenges from other clubs.
I wonder whether Cherki would be played as a 10 or on the right as he looks the type that could play any of the forward positions but also the type that Emery likes to use as a
Aye, he looks like a younger, cheaper Asensio.
If we do sign Cherki, hope he doesn't turn into a turkey.
Reaches for hat and leaves.
What are you doing with those?
Excellent commaentary, Monty.
Diogo Jota. Hmmm.
It’s seems to be every time I log on here one of threads is us trying to flog one of our stars.
Can we please keep Emi, Ramsey and co and stop being so bloody silly!
no-one else can afford their wagesIt’s seems to be every time I log on here one of threads is us trying to flog one of our stars.
Can we please keep Emi, Ramsey and co and stop being so bloody silly!
I'm surprised we haven't tried to fuck William off (and George).
Was at an event tonight with Alan Evans, Dennis Mortimer, Colin Gibson and Kenny Swain.
Apparently Emery is EXTREMELY interested in Adam Wharton from Palace
Any standouts in the seconds, seems a while.
Emery's a big fan of Jimoh-Aloba, who looks like he's got the physicality to be involved. Interesting to see what happens if he has a good pre-season. He might get a year in the championship first though.
Emery's a big fan of Jimoh-Aloba, who looks like he's got the physicality to be involved. Interesting to see what happens if he has a good pre-season. He might get a year in the championship first though.
Yeah, he looks good. I was about to go back and edit my post to include him when I saw your post.
Can’t we send Jimoh to one, Alobo to the other and get both Dibling AND Delap?Emery's a big fan of Jimoh-Aloba, who looks like he's got the physicality to be involved. Interesting to see what happens if he has a good pre-season. He might get a year in the championship first though.
Yeah, he looks good. I was about to go back and edit my post to include him when I saw your post.
He does look like a good player, it would be good to get him out on loan to a quality Championship club to have a look at his physicality and ability. Send him to Southampton or Ipswich as part of any Dibling/Delap transfer!!
Any standouts in the seconds, seems a while.
But the reality is, in the current PSR environment, a promising youth product is much more likely to sold so the money can be used to strengthen the side, than be developed over time as a first-team asset. I don't like it, but it's the financial reality given then current rules.
But the reality is, in the current PSR environment, a promising youth product is much more likely to sold so the money can be used to strengthen the side, than be developed over time as a first-team asset. I don't like it, but it's the financial reality given then current rules.
Solution: The wages of homegrown players should not count in PSR calculations. Seems fair to me and in the spirit of the game.
The solution is a wage cap based system.But the reality is, in the current PSR environment, a promising youth product is much more likely to sold so the money can be used to strengthen the side, than be developed over time as a first-team asset. I don't like it, but it's the financial reality given then current rules.
Solution: The wages of homegrown players should not count in PSR calculations. Seems fair to me and in the spirit of the game.
It's a good idea, but doesn't solve the problem of youth players being 100% profit, and a £10m youth sale allowing you to buy a £50m player over five years and remain PSR neutral for full year. Or selling one just to get yourself out of a PSR whole at the end of a year.
I imagine it would also create quite the inflationary effect on homegrown players. But it would be a step in the right direction, certainly!
The solution is a wage cap based system.But the reality is, in the current PSR environment, a promising youth product is much more likely to sold so the money can be used to strengthen the side, than be developed over time as a first-team asset. I don't like it, but it's the financial reality given then current rules.
Solution: The wages of homegrown players should not count in PSR calculations. Seems fair to me and in the spirit of the game.
It's a good idea, but doesn't solve the problem of youth players being 100% profit, and a £10m youth sale allowing you to buy a £50m player over five years and remain PSR neutral for full year. Or selling one just to get yourself out of a PSR whole at the end of a year.
I imagine it would also create quite the inflationary effect on homegrown players. But it would be a step in the right direction, certainly!
The solution is a wage cap based system.But the reality is, in the current PSR environment, a promising youth product is much more likely to sold so the money can be used to strengthen the side, than be developed over time as a first-team asset. I don't like it, but it's the financial reality given then current rules.
Solution: The wages of homegrown players should not count in PSR calculations. Seems fair to me and in the spirit of the game.
It's a good idea, but doesn't solve the problem of youth players being 100% profit, and a £10m youth sale allowing you to buy a £50m player over five years and remain PSR neutral for full year. Or selling one just to get yourself out of a PSR whole at the end of a year.
I imagine it would also create quite the inflationary effect on homegrown players. But it would be a step in the right direction, certainly!
🚨 Aston Villa are closely monitoring the contract situation of Valencia defender Cristhian Mosquera.
@MatteMoretto
Not sure how true this might be.
https://bsky.app/profile/avfchistory.bsky.social/post/3locknul4dc25
Not sure how true this might be.
https://bsky.app/profile/avfchistory.bsky.social/post/3locknul4dc25
The solution is a wage cap based system.But the reality is, in the current PSR environment, a promising youth product is much more likely to sold so the money can be used to strengthen the side, than be developed over time as a first-team asset. I don't like it, but it's the financial reality given then current rules.
Solution: The wages of homegrown players should not count in PSR calculations. Seems fair to me and in the spirit of the game.
It's a good idea, but doesn't solve the problem of youth players being 100% profit, and a £10m youth sale allowing you to buy a £50m player over five years and remain PSR neutral for full year. Or selling one just to get yourself out of a PSR whole at the end of a year.
I imagine it would also create quite the inflationary effect on homegrown players. But it would be a step in the right direction, certainly!
A lot would hinge on which European comp we end up in. Emery likes two per position, but not making champs league might mean we rely more on youth prospects to fill those gaps.Not sure how true this might be.
https://bsky.app/profile/avfchistory.bsky.social/post/3locknul4dc25
That would me we’d need 2 central defenders, a right back, a left back, an attacking midfielder, a right sided wide player and 2 forwards to maintain the squad depth we’ve got now.
That’s some huge recruitment and a fair wedge of cash needed.
🚨 Aston Villa are closely monitoring the contract situation of Valencia defender Cristhian Mosquera.
@MatteMoretto
I think 'Mosquera' (very, very) broadly translates as 'fly guy', 'fly catcher', 'fly trap' or generally 'man of flies, is from flies, is about flies, knows flies, communicates with flies. Is a fly.'
I'm positive about this transfer, and also my own excellent and inaccurate Spanish
A lot would hinge on which European comp we end up in. Emery likes two per position, but not making champs league might mean we rely more on youth prospects to fill those gaps.Not sure how true this might be.
https://bsky.app/profile/avfchistory.bsky.social/post/3locknul4dc25
That would me we’d need 2 central defenders, a right back, a left back, an attacking midfielder, a right sided wide player and 2 forwards to maintain the squad depth we’ve got now.
That’s some huge recruitment and a fair wedge of cash needed.
A lot would hinge on which European comp we end up in. Emery likes two per position, but not making champs league might mean we rely more on youth prospects to fill those gaps.Not sure how true this might be.
https://bsky.app/profile/avfchistory.bsky.social/post/3locknul4dc25
That would me we’d need 2 central defenders, a right back, a left back, an attacking midfielder, a right sided wide player and 2 forwards to maintain the squad depth we’ve got now.
That’s some huge recruitment and a fair wedge of cash needed.
I’d argue that 2 players per position is needed just for the PL season. Go in light and we’ll end up playing midfielders at centre half again.
Yeah, me too. It’s a bit more ruthless than I’d maybe expected, but I can see the logic behind all of those:Not sure how true this might be.
https://bsky.app/profile/avfchistory.bsky.social/post/3locknul4dc25
That sounds very plausible to me.
Bailey, a gambling addict? Who's been telling you that?I read it as Rashford being the one who the unproven rumours of gambling are about.
our scouts watching Samu Aghehowa of Porto .
our scouts watching Samu Aghehowa of Porto .
That sort of player would be ideal if we keep Watkins. Not sure we could rely on him alone.
Bailey, a gambling addict? Who's been telling you that?
Bailey, a gambling addict? Who's been telling you that?
Just something I heard. Could be complete bollocks, maybe there's an element of truth to it...who knows. Whether it is or not, Emery seemed to decide sometime ago that it was time to move him on.
Bailey, a gambling addict? Who's been telling you that?
Just something I heard. Could be complete bollocks, maybe there's an element of truth to it...who knows. Whether it is or not, Emery seemed to decide sometime ago that it was time to move him on.
Bailey, a gambling addict? Who's been telling you that?
Just something I heard. Could be complete bollocks, maybe there's an element of truth to it...who knows. Whether it is or not, Emery seemed to decide sometime ago that it was time to move him on.
My ex-wife accused me of being a gambling addict. I said ‘bet you a tenner I’m not’!
Arsenal and Aston Villa are eyeing Juventus striker Dusan Vlahovic, 25, with the Serie A club expected to ask for around £42m for the Serbian. (Fichajes - in Spanish)
QuoteArsenal and Aston Villa are eyeing Juventus striker Dusan Vlahovic, 25, with the Serie A club expected to ask for around £42m for the Serbian. (Fichajes - in Spanish)
QuoteArsenal and Aston Villa are eyeing Juventus striker Dusan Vlahovic, 25, with the Serie A club expected to ask for around £42m for the Serbian. (Fichajes - in Spanish)
I dont think Asensio has been great last 4/5 matches but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we have a deal for him, he's not going to get his PSG wages anywhere but Saudi and UE has tried to get him before. A lot of players coming from overseas struggle initially with the PL, its just that he's done it in a bit of an arse about face way.
🚨🧨 Aston Villa need to make at least one significant sale before June 30th to ensure they stay in line with Premier League spending rules.
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🚨🧨 Aston Villa need to make at least one significant sale before June 30th to ensure they stay in line with Premier League spending rules.
@TomCollomosse
Bailey
It'll be lowball season for us this summer.
Ridiculous.
It'll be lowball season for us this summer.
Ridiculous.
How and why?
It's not troubled us so far has it?
We appear to be fully on top of this shit, I'd imagine we've already got a deal for someone ready to go, and as suggested earlier my guess would be Bailey off to Saudi.
The Saudis will.It'll be lowball season for us this summer.
Ridiculous.
How and why?
Purely in terms of selling a key player I mean. Can't imagine there's going to be many clubs clamoring to offer our asking price on someone if they know we're up against it.
It's not troubled us so far has it?
We appear to be fully on top of this shit, I'd imagine we've already got a deal for someone ready to go, and as suggested earlier my guess would be Bailey off to Saudi.
I think it's helped we had a spare striker worth 60mill we could shift this year.
Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I do wonder how long it is before we're forced to sell someone we simply can't replace.
...the personal carrying it out have been doing the same thing now for decades elsewhere, I'm totally comfortable with it.
Didn't he arse things up at Roma too?
Didn't he arse things up at Roma too?
I think to get the best out of Monchi, he needs Emery alongside him having the final say.
And as for replacing players, we seem to becoming a more attractive 'project' to players every year. The giant is awakening and more people are realising it.
I think to get the best out of Monchi, he needs Emery alongside him having the final say.
And as for replacing players, we seem to becoming a more attractive 'project' to players every year. The giant is awakening and more people are realising it.
That's it really isn't it, for these DoF types to work the whole thing has to knitted together. I mean, you could for example buy a handful of promising young foreign players only for the manger and existing players to be a bunch of twats and bring them all down.
Good point. That could work to our advantage I suppose.
How did Monchi fuck up at Sevilla?
[Sevilla circling the plug-hole] essentially began with Monchi’s return to Sevilla in 2019 after a brief and unsuccessful spell with Roma. His plan was to turn Sevilla into genuine title challengers, so although there was still a desire for some players with re-sale value, they set their limits a little higher. Their ambition also saw them turn to more players about to hit their peak years or those who boasted significant experience.
Maximum short-term impact rather than long-term investment was the idea in many cases, with players like Fernando, Luuk de Jong, Ivan Rakitic, Papu Gómez, Marcos Acuña, Thomas Delaney, Jesús Corona, Anthony Martial, Alex Telles, Isco and Érik Lamela brought in between 2019 and 2022. A few made decent contributions, a couple delivered great value, but most would be considered mistakes or disappointments.
Good point. That could work to our advantage I suppose.
With that in mind it's a shame TAA is going to Madrid as that's closed off an avenue for Matty Cash.
I’m not on top of this, but from what you’ve posted Dave, doesn’t this point just as much to the Seville coaches/management, not being able to mold said players at their peak, into a successful unit. Like, if Emery (God forbid) was back at Seville would they have made more of a fist of it.How did Monchi fuck up at Sevilla?
Fairly comprehensive article if you're interested here (https://theanalyst.com/2024/01/sevilla-from-title-challengers-to-relegation-battlers), but the synopsis version is:Quote[Sevilla circling the plug-hole] essentially began with Monchi’s return to Sevilla in 2019 after a brief and unsuccessful spell with Roma. His plan was to turn Sevilla into genuine title challengers, so although there was still a desire for some players with re-sale value, they set their limits a little higher. Their ambition also saw them turn to more players about to hit their peak years or those who boasted significant experience.
Maximum short-term impact rather than long-term investment was the idea in many cases, with players like Fernando, Luuk de Jong, Ivan Rakitic, Papu Gómez, Marcos Acuña, Thomas Delaney, Jesús Corona, Anthony Martial, Alex Telles, Isco and Érik Lamela brought in between 2019 and 2022. A few made decent contributions, a couple delivered great value, but most would be considered mistakes or disappointments.
Then they sold the best central defence in Europe (half of it to us) and they're now sitting 16th with an old squad on massive wages that they can't do anything with.
I'm not sure Juventus will view the Doug deal as well below value in hindsight.
Maybe not, but it was at the time. If we sold, say, Watkins to Juventus for thirty million to help us avoid falling victim to the rules introduced to protect Juventus by former Juventus player and well known crook Michel Platini, we will have been ripped off because of said rules. Even if he then scores fewer goals than Jordan Bowery for the rest of his career. It would soften the blow, admittedly. And not just because Juventus are fucking horrible.
I'm not sure Juventus will view the Doug deal as well below value in hindsight.
I play five a side with a Juve fan and asked him last week what's happened to Dougie. He looked angrily at me and said "He is slow and useless. I want him and his girlfriend to get the fuck out of Turin ASAP!" The place went a bit silent for a second before they started taking the piss out of someone in a Yanited shirt.
I'm not sure Juventus will view the Doug deal as well below value in hindsight.
I play five a side with a Juve fan and asked him last week what's happened to Dougie. He looked angrily at me and said "He is slow and useless. I want him and his girlfriend to get the fuck out of Turin ASAP!" The place went a bit silent for a second before they started taking the piss out of someone in a Yanited shirt.
Brilliant 🤩Good point. That could work to our advantage I suppose.
With that in mind it's a shame TAA is going to Madrid as that's closed off an avenue for Matty Cash.
Brilliant 🤩Good point. That could work to our advantage I suppose.
With that in mind it's a shame TAA is going to Madrid as that's closed off an avenue for Matty Cash.
🚨 Aston Villa have made contact to sign 18 year old forward Kenny Quetant from Le Havre — discussions ongoing.
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🚨 Aston Villa have made contact to sign 18 year old forward Kenny Quetant from Le Havre — discussions ongoing.
@Santi_J_FM
🚨 Aston Villa have made contact to sign 18 year old forward Kenny Quetant from Le Havre — discussions ongoing.
@Santi_J_FM
Yes please. Kenny Quetant sounds like a charming but doomed bit of rough in a Joe Orton play. I'm amazed it's taken our recruitment boffins so long to start adopting some of my own scouting strategies. I've emailed them often enough.
🚨 Aston Villa have made contact to sign 18 year old forward Kenny Quetant from Le Havre — discussions ongoing.
@Santi_J_FM
Yes please. Kenny Quetant sounds like a charming but doomed bit of rough in a Joe Orton play. I'm amazed it's taken our recruitment boffins so long to start adopting some of my own scouting strategies. I've emailed them often enough.
He sounds like a jazz fusion band leader.
🚨 Aston Villa have made contact to sign 18 year old forward Kenny Quetant from Le Havre — discussions ongoing.
@Santi_J_FM
Yes please. Kenny Quetant sounds like a charming but doomed bit of rough in a Joe Orton play. I'm amazed it's taken our recruitment boffins so long to start adopting some of my own scouting strategies. I've emailed them often enough.
He sounds like a jazz fusion band leader.
🚨 Aston Villa have made contact to sign 18 year old forward Kenny Quetant from Le Havre — discussions ongoing.
@Santi_J_FM
Yes please. Kenny Quetant sounds like a charming but doomed bit of rough in a Joe Orton play. I'm amazed it's taken our recruitment boffins so long to start adopting some of my own scouting strategies. I've emailed them often enough.
He sounds like a jazz fusion band leader.
Yeah, fusing jazz with crafty hand-jobs at the opera and weekends locked in Great Yarmouth boarding houses with a big bag of purple hearts, a loaded gun and a prominent member of the House of Lords.
We've had loads of French players. We need a Uruguayan to complete the set of proper football countries. I wouldn't mind a Mexican and maybe a South Korean, too, just for a change. Maybe Greece so we can complete all the Euro winners that still exist.
France? Meh.
We've had loads of French players. We need a Uruguayan to complete the set of proper football countries. I wouldn't mind a Mexican and maybe a South Korean, too, just for a change. Maybe Greece so we can complete all the Euro winners that still exist.
France? Meh.
We're overdue for a Scandinavian as well, for a long time it was a mainstay of the squad for us to have at least 1.
We're overdue for a Scandinavian as well, for a long time it was a mainstay of the squad for us to have at least 1.
Can't believe you've already forgotten Olsen and he hasn't even left yet!
We're overdue for a Scandinavian as well, for a long time it was a mainstay of the squad for us to have at least 1.Unfotunately with one or two obvious (Norwegian) exceptions they're largely
We're overdue for a Scandinavian as well, for a long time it was a mainstay of the squad for us to have at least 1.Unfotunately with one or two obvious (Norwegian) exceptions they're largely
a) crap
b) over the hill
c) both.
For some reason only known to my subconscious I'd completely discounted the Swedes :-[. And can still only think of Isak and Kulusevski!We're overdue for a Scandinavian as well, for a long time it was a mainstay of the squad for us to have at least 1.Unfotunately with one or two obvious (Norwegian) exceptions they're largely
a) crap
b) over the hill
c) both.
I dunno, that Sweden front four could probably hold its own against any other attack in the world.
Gyökeres and Elanga to add to your two.
We've had loads of French players. We need a Uruguayan to complete the set of proper football countries.
I've seen us linked to Sara as well but we seem to get linked to a lot of players that play in Turkey.But they never come home to roost.
I've seen us linked to Sara as well but we seem to get linked to a lot of players that play in Turkey.
There's some chat online that Newcastle have made an approach for Ramsey.Probably because Craig Hope ( Geordie Journo ) has us approaching Harvey Barnes.
There's some chat online that Newcastle have made an approach for Ramsey.Probably because Craig Hope ( Geordie Journo ) has us approaching Harvey Barnes.
Most players are 'open' to a lot of things, doesn't mean they move.
If we had to sell Rogers after a year we might as well pack it in.
If we had to sell Rogers after a year we might as well pack it in.
Indeed - two things, it’s Teamtalk and entirely the sort of statement that can’t be proved or disproved. Secondly, Unai clearly sees him as pivotal I think it would take something remarkable for us to sell him.
Also if we can top 5 I think any whispers go away.
Most players are 'open' to a lot of things, doesn't mean they move.
Most players are 'open' to a lot of things, doesn't mean they move.
Im open to a threesome with Scarlett Johansson . doesnt mean its happening .
Most players are 'open' to a lot of things, doesn't mean they move.
Im open to a threesome with Scarlett Johansson . doesnt mean its happening .
Is the third spot taken? Asking for a friend.
Most players are 'open' to a lot of things, doesn't mean they move.
Im open to a threesome with Scarlett Johansson . doesnt mean its happening .
Is the third spot taken? Asking for a friend.
You can play the Scarlet role
I'm pretty relaxed about CL Vs Europa qualification. I think we arguably had a better summer transfers wise the season we made the conference and I don't think too many of our players will agitate to go because of a season in the Europa.
We might take a couple of calculated gambles if we are in that, but don't think it's the end of the world and it's a good opportunity to go really far in Europe again.
The squad needs less surgery this summer too, maybe 2-3 players that can challenge the first team, but Unai seems to like some turnover so I can see one or two shocks leaving. For me, right winger and striker are the imperative signings, then a centre half.
Aston Villa do not want to lose £90m-rated England midfielder Morgan Rogers, who is attracting the interest of Chelsea, but the 22-year-old would be open to a move if the opportunity presented itself. (Teamtalk)So if Villa say yes we want to trade Morgan would be open to a move. Incredible piece of journalism.
Who are the other 5 outs? Dobbins, Illing Jr, maybe Barranchea I suppose.
I think the outs will include Watkins, Ramsey and one of Martinez or Kamara. Assuming we don't make the CL.
Not for me, either. If you could promise we would make fifty million profit from the swap, and Barnes would stay injury free, I'd be happy enough. As neither is likely, then, not so much.
I cant see both Kamara and Barrenechea going, maybe we don't have the control we want on that but if the former wants to go or is sacrificed for FFP then surely the latter is the replacement, although, if that were the plan all along, then I'm a bit surprised we didnt try and get him a loan in England.
I think it will be a busy summer. There are those we want to offload - Coutinho, Dendonker, Olsen, Buendia. Then others we could offload without it impacting the squad that played this season - Bailey, Enzo, SIJ, Moreno.
The thing about the ones that are subject to a bit of speculation is that they would be massive PSR ‘wins’. Kamara and Ramsey are pure profit, Martinez and Watkins are almost fully amortised, on big money, and maybe at their peak. I wouldn’t be massively shocked if Emery took all this into account and went for a reset.
I’m kind of excited about Barrenechea without really knowing if that’s justified.
Who would take Dougie back?
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1920951705539170662?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
I quite like Barkley and thought he was easily the best signing of the summer for us. He's missed a lot of games second half of the season, but if he's happy to do the job he was doing pre injury, and his wages aren't massive, I don't think I'd be looking to get rid of him.
Who would take Dougie back?
https://x.com/theavfcfaithful/status/1920951705539170662?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA
Assume you meant from Man U. I’d be gutted if ended up with that lot. But given every player who has left Man U ends up better off would it really be shock if Hojlund suddenly finds form playing for someone else? Fucking Antony looks like prime Ronaldinho in Betis colours.
Assume you meant from Man U. I’d be gutted if ended up with that lot. But given every player who has left Man U ends up better off would it really be shock if Hojlund suddenly finds form playing for someone else? Fucking Antony looks like prime Ronaldinho in Betis colours.
I maintain Hojlund is a real talent and I'd absolutely love him to move literally anywhere in the summer and prove me right.
If you could guarantee he'd stay fit for more than fifteen minutes at a time, sure.
I agree. Hojlund has something.
Reece James makes Keinan look like an iron man.
Reece James makes Keinan look like an iron man.
How's Keinan done this season? I'm scared to check his Wiki and see that he's played in less than 20 games this season.
If you could guarantee he'd stay fit for more than fifteen minutes at a time, sure.
True. Spence from Spurs is a decent player, Unai would make him even better.
If you could guarantee he'd stay fit for more than fifteen minutes at a time, sure.
True. Spence from Spurs is a decent player, Unai would make him even better.
All though like James, we need to ensure we sign the D Spence who plays for the men's team and not the D Spence who plays for their women's team.
arse will be missing their striker next game'striker' you mean?!!
I was at a birthday party last night for one of my wife's friends and was introduced to Christian Pulisic's grandmother. I told her to pass on a message to him to please come to Villa. As soon as he signs I'll let her out of our basement closet, but not a second sooner :)
arse will be missing their striker next game'striker' you mean?!!
Spence would not be an upgrade on Cash.Looks good going forward but defensively he is very weak.
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Spurs paid a fortune for Porro who's pretty 'meh'.
Not sure he’s a good full back. I’m sure he’s a very good wing back, but in a 4 he’s exposed defensively.
Eze would be good, Sarr no thanks.
🚨 Al-Hilal have Youri Tielemans as another midfielder option on their radar — they believe a €55-60m bid would be accepted.
@JacobsBen
Nonsenthe as Simon Jordan would say.
Get directly to fuck, Saudis.and when you get there...........
....and Youri's house is on the market!!!
This is probably my most controversial Villa opinion at the moment, but as good as Youri has been this year (and he's my player of the season), I would be tempted by a huge offer for him. I think he is one of the players that we could really improve on, and it's not through any fault of his really. He just lacks a physicality that is so important in the middle of the pitch, and means we occasionally get overrun. You can get away with being slow, small and a bit weak in most matches and in most positions, but sometimes I feel like Youri really struggles to make an impact on a match against certain teams.
That's not always the case - he was great against Newcastle the other week, for example. But he just has a few limitations that he'll never be able to overcome. If we could find a player, somewhere, that can pass the ball like he can, as well as offering something else physically, whether that's defensive power, speed to get around the pitch or the ability to beat a man, then I think we could become a much better team. Could Sverre Nypan be his replacement...? Is the Onana and Kamara combination the way forward anyway?
I certainly wouldn't be actively looking to sell him, but he's not irreplaceable, in my opinion. And if it means we can be really ambitious in the transfer market, then I think we should consider it.
(And while I'm spouting controversial nonsense, I think a Konsa replacement is as important as a Cash replacement in the summer)
Yes....and Youri's house is on the market!!!
The one near Leicester?
This is probably my most controversial Villa opinion at the moment, but as good as Youri has been this year (and he's my player of the season), I would be tempted by a huge offer for him. I think he is one of the players that we could really improve on, and it's not through any fault of his really. He just lacks a physicality that is so important in the middle of the pitch, and means we occasionally get overrun. You can get away with being slow, small and a bit weak in most matches and in most positions, but sometimes I feel like Youri really struggles to make an impact on a match against certain teams.
That's not always the case - he was great against Newcastle the other week, for example. But he just has a few limitations that he'll never be able to overcome. If we could find a player, somewhere, that can pass the ball like he can, as well as offering something else physically, whether that's defensive power, speed to get around the pitch or the ability to beat a man, then I think we could become a much better team. Could Sverre Nypan be his replacement...? Is the Onana and Kamara combination the way forward anyway?
I certainly wouldn't be actively looking to sell him, but he's not irreplaceable, in my opinion. And if it means we can be really ambitious in the transfer market, then I think we should consider it.
(And while I'm spouting controversial nonsense, I think a Konsa replacement is as important as a Cash replacement in the summer)
I don't think we missed him as much as I feared at Bournemouth, and still think he's better as a deeper 10 than a 6. Kamara add Onana together were outstanding, Tielemans in front of them might well have been more effective, but his versatility is so useful I think selling him would have to come with a massive price tag, upwards of £65 million for me.
Do two things. Sell Youri to Al-Whoever for £60M and DO NOT replace him with Douglas who keeps making overtures towards us.
Keep Youri thanks.
Dobbin can go
None of our other midfielders can play slide-rules and defence-splitters like Youri (Torres from further back, at times). Were he to leave, that ability would have to be replaced.
This is probably my most controversial Villa opinion at the moment, but as good as Youri has been this year (and he's my player of the season), I would be tempted by a huge offer for him. I think he is one of the players that we could really improve on, and it's not through any fault of his really. He just lacks a physicality that is so important in the middle of the pitch, and means we occasionally get overrun. You can get away with being slow, small and a bit weak in most matches and in most positions, but sometimes I feel like Youri really struggles to make an impact on a match against certain teams.
That's not always the case - he was great against Newcastle the other week, for example. But he just has a few limitations that he'll never be able to overcome. If we could find a player, somewhere, that can pass the ball like he can, as well as offering something else physically, whether that's defensive power, speed to get around the pitch or the ability to beat a man, then I think we could become a much better team. Could Sverre Nypan be his replacement...? Is the Onana and Kamara combination the way forward anyway?
I certainly wouldn't be actively looking to sell him, but he's not irreplaceable, in my opinion. And if it means we can be really ambitious in the transfer market, then I think we should consider it.
(And while I'm spouting controversial nonsense, I think a Konsa replacement is as important as a Cash replacement in the summer)
The transfer deadline will close four hours earlier than previously for this summer's double window with the time set to change from 23:00 to 19:00 BST.
This is the place for controversial opinions! Maybe from a pure accounting perspective it's make sense to trade in, Emery has turned around a free transfer into a top class PL midfielder. But we won't get better as a team selling our best players.
Onana can't play on the half turn so no way for me as a replacement. I thought we saw in the second half how much we missed a playmaker like Tielemans or even Luiz before him. Bournemouth pushed up on us and Onana after a very strong first half faded. We just couldn't get playing and kept going long and losing the ball.
I think Tielemans has been Emery's biggest success story. I'm stunned he has successfully replaced Luiz's influence in the team. Last season I thought his influence was overstated. He did have some fine games, often at 10 like v Man City, but had injuries and his early form was shocking really. He looked every inch the player that spent the last 12-18 months at Leicester doing zilch. I distinctly remember playing at Bournemouth where Luiz effectively played by himself in midfield for all the impact Tielemans had next to him. But he's turned it around spectacularly. Emery's man management doesn't get enough credit.
Haven't been a fan at all of Konsa this season, scratching around the England squad seems to have sent his ego into orbit. But I thought he was very good at Bournemouth, bar one header that went up in the air. He just did the basics very well. If Torres is Emery's man then maybe we need somebody else - but he's hardly given Disasi a chance. Think he rates Konsa highly.
First window in a while where outside of maybe an elite RB I can't really guess at an obvious set of transfer moves that Monchi & co. will make. In January, it was really clear what we needed and they addressed those obvious shortcomings in the squad. However it feels like the four permanent players from the last few windows (Onana, Maatsen, Malen and Garcia) will all be adapted and feeling like 'new' players come August.
I'd like to see us getting Cunha from that lot in the black country. Great attacking and, let's face it, dirty player I'd like to see.
Express attacking pace is priority no.1 I reckon.
and that Fernandes guy who's likely to get relegated next year.
Bruno Fernandes is one of the best players on earth and might be the reason Man Utd haven't been relegated.
Bruno Fernandes is one of the best players on earth and might be the reason Man Utd haven't been relegated.
He’s been fantastic this season in a terrible team. I really can’t stand him but I’ve watched with the most grudging admiration I’ve ever felt for a footballer. He’s absolutely carried them.
I'd both pay to watch Fernandes and have a pint with him. Seems alright to me. Think he speaks really well post-match under pretty significant pressure.
I know 'Bruno Fernandes is good' might be more controversial than 'player playing in pretty damn good team is in fact absolutely terrible 3/10', but hey, someone's got to think the unthinkable sometimes.
I know 'Bruno Fernandes is good' might be more controversial than 'player playing in pretty damn good team is in fact absolutely terrible 3/10', but hey, someone's got to think the unthinkable sometimes.
Bit of a reach from good to one of the best players on earth.
I know 'Bruno Fernandes is good' might be more controversial than 'player playing in pretty damn good team is in fact absolutely terrible 3/10', but hey, someone's got to think the unthinkable sometimes.
Bit of a reach from good to one of the best players on earth.
With the figures he puts in every season, name players in that position that exceed him?
There is a mention that Manure are in prime position to sign Delap. Another one like Archer who will be relegated with different teams in consecutive seasons.
I know 'Bruno Fernandes is good' might be more controversial than 'player playing in pretty damn good team is in fact absolutely terrible 3/10', but hey, someone's got to think the unthinkable sometimes.
Bit of a reach from good to one of the best players on earth.
With the figures he puts in every season, name players in that position that exceed him?
I know this will annoy people but he's got more goals than Watkins despite being a midfielder.
Not really, he takes penalties for ManU. The rate they get gifted them he should be scoring 30 a season.
Why the fuck are we discussing rat face ?
Why the fuck are we discussing rat face ?
Because he's a very decent player, and a lovely guy.
Rumours we are close to signing Asencio for £13m.
That’s some deal if true.
Seems cheap for a Real Madrid defender. Replacements for Mings.
https://tbrfootball.com/aston-villa-now-close-to-signing-world-class-player-in-13m-deal-with-contract-to-run-until-june-2028/
Just a rumour
Ah. My literal brain saw straight past that 😌
Marco Asensio at what is a nominal fee in today’s game is a very good signing. He completely outdid himself when he first joined. Way above his scoring average. But he is an experienced player who can offer us great depth and technically is excellent.
Marco Asensio at what is a nominal fee in today’s game is a very good signing. He completely outdid himself when he first joined. Way above his scoring average. But he is an experienced player who can offer us great depth and technically is excellent.
I love Marco, but if we do sign him it’s imperative we get some pace down the flanks to maximise what he can do.
It’s not a fair comparison. Asensio has done more than Coutinho in less games. Even when he’s not scoring which is not why he was bought he’s contributed in a number of other ways off the ball. As I said we all got giddy with his scoring early on. That’s never been his game at that rate. He’s only 29, joined us mid season so fitted in very well and helped us to some superb results. Can’t have enough top quality players at the club.
Marco Asensio at what is a nominal fee in today’s game is a very good signing. He completely outdid himself when he first joined. Way above his scoring average. But he is an experienced player who can offer us great depth and technically is excellent.
I agree with what you’ve typed, but given a choice would you choose a ten over a winger assuming we have to sell before we buy…?
It’s not a fair comparison. Asensio has done more than Coutinho in less games. Even when he’s not scoring which is not why he was bought he’s contributed in a number of other ways off the ball. As I said we all got giddy with his scoring early on. That’s never been his game at that rate. He’s only 29, joined us mid season so fitted in very well and helped us to some superb results. Can’t have enough top quality players at the club.
But the likelihood is, he’d be pushing a top player out to fund his £300k wages.
He’s supposedly on £300k a week at PSG.
Liverpool look like they might replace TAA with Frimpong for £30m is superb business. Much like the deal to get Mac Allister from Brighton for less than his market value.
Liverpool look like they might replace TAA with Frimpong for £30m is superb business. Much like the deal to get Mac Allister from Brighton for less than his market value.
Losing one of your best players for nothing and having to spend £30m on a replacement is superb business?
He’s supposedly on £300k a week at PSG.But no-one else is going to pay him that unless he moves to the middle east.
We are in final peices of the jigsaw time.
We need a bit more pace/ mobility in midfield, improve right back position it maybe that Garcia steps up. Then it’s all about Watkins stay or go.
I don’t think Assensio or Rashford will be here next season.
I remain unconvinced regarding Pau if we want to push on next season.
A bit further down the Asensio link was a piece about Geertruida being unhappy at Leipzig and we could possibly go back in for him.
🚨 Aston Villa’s plans include buying Gabriel Sara from Galatasaray.
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🚨 Aston Villa want to sign Valencia centre-back Cristhian Mosquera — starting figure of around €18m. The good relationship between both clubs could facilitate the negotiation.
@RadioMARCA
🚨 Aston Villa want to sign Valencia centre-back Cristhian Mosquera — starting figure of around €18m. The good relationship between both clubs could facilitate the negotiation.
@RadioMARCA
Went to watch Valencia at the weekend (won 3-0) and had one eye on him. Big lad, good in the air and won most of his duels, however appeared erratic on the ball. Appears to be right footed but played on the left of a back three.
🚨 Aston Villa’s plans include buying Gabriel Sara from Galatasaray.
@aliececom
Who he?
I like the look of Givairo Read , Id keep Cash for another season and have this dutch kid as back up for RB and LB and left Luca go and put Maatsen as No 1 .If cash stays he will be back up to Garcia very quickly
🚨 Aston Villa’s plans include buying Gabriel Sara from Galatasaray.
@aliececom
Who he?
He's the poet in my heart.
Seems to be the right profile.
How was our Enzo?
🚨 Aston Villa’s plans include buying Gabriel Sara from Galatasaray.
@aliececom
Who he?
Im not sure I agree with all of this. Tielemans has been one of the standout midfielders in the league, why would he become a back up? And I doubt we’ll bring someone in with the qualities of Onana, unless Onana leaves, which doesn’t seem remotely likely.We are in final peices of the jigsaw time.
We need a bit more pace/ mobility in midfield, improve right back position it maybe that Garcia steps up. Then it’s all about Watkins stay or go.
I don’t think Assensio or Rashford will be here next season.
I remain unconvinced regarding Pau if we want to push on next season.
Agree, but only if the current squad stays mainly intact. Agree about RB, definitely needs sorting. Think we need another RCB adding (Disasi would be fine) and then a big decision on LCB. Digne and Maatsen should be fine for another season at LB.
If Kamara stays, then I think we need a player with the qualities that an on-form Onana brings. It's just whether Onana can produce that kind of form often enough to be that option. Tielemans, McGinn and Barkley are good enough back ups and then Rogers and Ramsey on the left.
If Watkins stays, then him and Malen will be the striker options, which would just leave the number 10 and wide right positions. If we can add real pace and quality in those two positions and tighten up a bit at the back, then I can see us being a real force next season.
Very good :D One of my favourite Clint/Shirley films!👍
Excellent👏He's only scored twice this season but has created quite a few more. Shouldn't be too pricey, our initial offer was two mules for assister Sara.🚨 Aston Villa’s plans include buying Gabriel Sara from Galatasaray.Who he?
@aliececom
Im not sure I agree with all of this. Tielemans has been one of the standout midfielders in the league, why would he become a back up? And I doubt we’ll bring someone in with the qualities of Onana, unless Onana leaves, which doesn’t seem remotely likely.We are in final peices of the jigsaw time.
We need a bit more pace/ mobility in midfield, improve right back position it maybe that Garcia steps up. Then it’s all about Watkins stay or go.
I don’t think Assensio or Rashford will be here next season.
I remain unconvinced regarding Pau if we want to push on next season.
Agree, but only if the current squad stays mainly intact. Agree about RB, definitely needs sorting. Think we need another RCB adding (Disasi would be fine) and then a big decision on LCB. Digne and Maatsen should be fine for another season at LB.
If Kamara stays, then I think we need a player with the qualities that an on-form Onana brings. It's just whether Onana can produce that kind of form often enough to be that option. Tielemans, McGinn and Barkley are good enough back ups and then Rogers and Ramsey on the left.
If Watkins stays, then him and Malen will be the striker options, which would just leave the number 10 and wide right positions. If we can add real pace and quality in those two positions and tighten up a bit at the back, then I can see us being a real force next season.
I honestly think Tielemans might be better in a more advanced role. Onana has been a bit frustrating really, as I think he is exactly the kind of player we need when on form, but hasn't really got going due to injuries.
English defender Eric Dier will join Monaco on a three-year deal when his Bayern Munich contract expires on 1 July.
QuoteEnglish defender Eric Dier will join Monaco on a three-year deal when his Bayern Munich contract expires on 1 July.
Surely he would be right for us as backup. Afterall Budesliga winner.....
Seems cheap for a Real Madrid defender. Replacements for Mings.
Isn't the article talking about making the deal for Asensio permanent?
Not the RM defender Raul Asencio?
Not the RM defender Raul Asencio?
The RM player might be unavailable for other reasons
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14680063/Real-Madrid-Raul-Asencio-child-pornography-case.html
And i know the modern world passes us old folk by at times but..
His girlfriend, listed as a Spanish influencer (whatever the hell that is - is it even a vocation?) and the stupid suck in cheeks, head to the side pose - what the hell is that all about?
🚨 The idea is for Axel Disasi to continue at Aston Villa beyond his loan.
@Santi_J_FM
We're gonna win the league with three at the back...
Why? When he has ever let us down at centre-half, the position he's supposed to play in?
Why? When he has ever let us down at centre-half, the position he's supposed to play in?
We can do a lot better, IMHO
I'd be happy with Disasi coming in as long as he doesn't play right back.
We're gonna win the league with three at the back...
We're gonna win the league with three at the back...
Would be a tainted title, IMO. We'd all stop and applaud while the trinkets were handed out, but, when the celebrations subside, you can just hear a nagging voice. It whispers one word in your ear. "Shame".
My favourite impression after a few drinks. Though, if you're not careful, it can drift into Alan Bennett.
"He said his name was Billy Bremner, but mother thinks he looks like a Maurice."
I'd be happy with Disasi coming in as long as he doesn't play right back.
🚨 Monchi appreciates the profile of Udinese midfielder Martin Payero.
@AlfredoPedulla
🚨 Monchi appreciates the profile of Udinese midfielder Martin Payero.
@AlfredoPedulla
But straight on he's not so keen.
🚨 Monchi appreciates the profile of Udinese midfielder Martin Payero.
@AlfredoPedulla
But straight on he's not so keen.
Rashford at £40mil and a huge pay cut is fine by me. Asensio is a no-go - not now he's retired.
I think he’ll score tonightRashford at £40mil and a huge pay cut is fine by me. Asensio is a no-go - not now he's retired.
I would think Asensio is staying.
I think he’ll score tonightRashford at £40mil and a huge pay cut is fine by me. Asensio is a no-go - not now he's retired.
I would think Asensio is staying.
I think he’ll score tonightRashford at £40mil and a huge pay cut is fine by me. Asensio is a no-go - not now he's retired.
I would think Asensio is staying.
From the bench I hope.
Monchi seems to have the knack of pulling rabbits out of the hat so I am not going to get stressed about any player leaving - we are only going in one direction
🚨 Aston Villa are one of four clubs in talks to sign Lille’s Jonathan David on a free transfer.
@lequipe
I'm assuming we've got the Espanyol keeper in the bag. The 23 year old who's expected to be Spain's number 1 in the near future.
I'd go for Ramsdale and sign that Ipswich goalie as backup.That would be a serious downgrade on Emi
I'd go for Ramsdale and sign that Ipswich goalie as backup.That would be a serious downgrade on Emi
True. I just think Ramsdale can be both a good shot stopper and bit of a headless chicken. His careers also been weird, relegated with Bournemouth, Sheff Utd and Southampton in his single season with each and then bombed out at Arsenal after one season. Obviously relegations aren’t his fault, just a strange trajectory.I'd go for Ramsdale and sign that Ipswich goalie as backup.That would be a serious downgrade on Emi
I think just about any player we can realistically sign will be. We aren't getting Raya, Alisson or Donnarumma.
True. I just think Ramsdale can be both a good shot stopper and bit of a headless chicken. His careers also been weird, relegated with Bournemouth, Sheff Utd and Southampton in his single season with each and then bombed out at Arsenal after one season. Obviously relegations aren’t his fault, just a strange trajectory.I'd go for Ramsdale and sign that Ipswich goalie as backup.That would be a serious downgrade on Emi
I think just about any player we can realistically sign will be. We aren't getting Raya, Alisson or Donnarumma.
Ramsdale?! Fucking hell.Hope not.
Monchi seems to have the knack of pulling rabbits out of the hat so I am not going to get stressed about any player leaving - we are only going in one direction
The way I look at it is we fucked up last summer and went in light in a number of positions and we fixed it in Jan - but it seems to lack any real longer term strategy.
Monchi seems to have the knack of pulling rabbits out of the hat so I am not going to get stressed about any player leaving - we are only going in one direction
Does he? Diaby I thought we were lucky to get rid of without making a serious loss, thankfully the Saudi's threw money at us. Onana right now is a very expensive squad player, there's no way he would he would be starting if Youri was fit.
Rogers by all accounts was an Unai signing.
Ian Maatsen has finally started looking the business in the last few weeks but it's probably still too early to confirm he was worth the high fee.
Garcia and Malen both look good deals but Unai doesn't seem to keen to use them.
Pau Torres may or may not have been set up before Monchi officially started.
Jaden never worked but we made a few quid selling to Ipswich
Lewis Dobbin doesn't appear to be the best £10m we've spent.
Enzo Barrenechea does and hopefully we'll see him at Villa Park next season.
Samuel Iling-Junior doesn't look like we'll ever get our money back.
Kosta Nedeljkovic seems to have disappeared off the football map.
Some clever loan business in January with Asensio and Rashford, hopefully we don't sign Axel Disasi.
I'd say Monchi's greatest bit of business has been Youri and he was free. Of course nobody will ever have a 100% success rate with signings but right now the jury is still out regarding Monchi 'pulling rabbits out of hats'.
I'd go for Ramsdale and sign that Ipswich goalie as backup.That would be a serious downgrade on Emi
I think just about any player we can realistically sign will be. We aren't getting Raya, Alisson or Donnarumma.
If by some chance Kosta was to sign for Lepzig we'll be lucky to get our money back.
Last summer's activity was a necessity in terms of PSR and doing weird deals to get out of a world of shit. Onana and Maatsen will prove to be good signings. The January signings were excellent and have helped to rescue the season, given we were as low as 9th at one point. Hoping for more of January type signings and less of Last summers shenanigans but I am guessing we have to do a bit more of both. I suspect Unai is thinking that some of these players have taken us as far as they can.Yes but were basically in a payday loan situation - so we sell emi and Ollie - which seems likely the chances of us getting players in that will contribute as much as they do in there first season is hugely unlikely - so we then have to go again. It’s just not sustainable
Ramsdale?! Fucking hell.Hope not.
I thought Kinsky played well last night for Spuds, and Leicester's Scandi keeper is also pretty good.
Holy Trinity, Dobbin could be described as a swap deal for Tim but it was still poor business as we're unlikely to see any money back for him. Everton may with Tim. He was great for them before his injury.
Holy Trinity, Dobbin could be described as a swap deal for Tim but it was still poor business as we're unlikely to see any money back for him. Everton may with Tim. He was great for them before his injury.Was he? The four matches he started they lost including two they had gone 2-0 up in. Then they drop him for three and they get some draws. Since then he has only started one even though he has been back for half a season.
Yes, they will get some money back but myself (and apparently Moyes) is not convinced he can currently hack it at the prem level.
Holy Trinity, Dobbin could be described as a swap deal for Tim but it was still poor business as we're unlikely to see any money back for him. Everton may with Tim. He was great for them before his injury.
We sold Luis in a firse sale to Juventus for €51.5m but then paid them an additional €11m for Illing and €8m for Barrenechea. Whilst I think we'll make a profit on Barrenechea, I'm struggling to see which promoted club will spend 15-20m on Illing. His season long loan at Bologna was cut short and he was sent off to relegation threatened/midtable Boro for the remainder of this season and hardly pulled up any trees. For me only one team did great business and it was Juventus. If by some chance Kosta was to sign for Lepzig we'll be lucky to get our money back.
So if those players were bought never to play for us I'm glad it wasn't with my money. Onana wasn't great before his injuries, he scored a few important goals which covered up his average/poor performances. Hopefully now he will kick on.
I recall their fans loving him and thinking they'd pulled out trousers down getting him for basically nothing. Then he got injured. I lost interest after that.
Just for context and a purely stats point if view the current world's best footballer Rodri has an average rating of 6.85 this season.
Onana is 6.71.
Kamara is 6.63, he's been going under the radar.
Just for context and a purely stats point if view the current world's best footballer Rodri has an average rating of 6.85 this season.
Onana is 6.71.
Kamara is 6.63, he's been going under the radar.
Rodri has played in two league games this season.
His stats included the internationals too and were there as an example only. Kamara was the direct comparison as we all universally agree he's a great player but average rating wise Onana is better from a statistical point of view.
His stats included the internationals too and were there as an example only. Kamara was the direct comparison as we all universally agree he's a great player but average rating wise Onana is better from a statistical point of view.
So you think he has a long term future there, then?I recall their fans loving him and thinking they'd pulled out trousers down getting him for basically nothing. Then he got injured. I lost interest after that.
Everton fans though. They definitely got the better deal with Dobbin coming here as the like for like, but I reckon withing two seasons Tim is at a championship team.
Spurs keeper from yesterday also played against us in the FA Cup. I might be misremembering it, but I feel like he saved them from losing by even more in that game too. Wonder would he be worth a punt? Possible he'll be their first choice keeper next season.
Yes, I looked him up just after I posted it and realised they'd only just bought him. Still, as someone else pointed out, there's plenty of keepers having great seasons that I'd never paid any attention to before. I don't think Martinez is irreplaceable, the only problem is goalkeeper isn't a position you can mess around with, or ease someone into the league. With Olsen going too, we really need to get it right first time.
Fuck me ramsdale, spurs second choice keeper.
You guys aren’t making me feel any better about this
Because it wouldn't bYes, I looked him up just after I posted it and realised they'd only just bought him. Still, as someone else pointed out, there's plenty of keepers having great seasons that I'd never paid any attention to before. I don't think Martinez is irreplaceable, the only problem is goalkeeper isn't a position you can mess around with, or ease someone into the league. With Olsen going too, we really need to get it right first time.
Because it wouldn't be as bad if Olsen stayed.
Fuck me ramsdale, spurs second choice keeper.
You guys aren’t making me feel any better about this
What are the chances we sign a keeper that's shirt. Our recruitment team is as good as any at the moment I think.Because it wouldn't bYes, I looked him up just after I posted it and realised they'd only just bought him. Still, as someone else pointed out, there's plenty of keepers having great seasons that I'd never paid any attention to before. I don't think Martinez is irreplaceable, the only problem is goalkeeper isn't a position you can mess around with, or ease someone into the league. With Olsen going too, we really need to get it right first time.
Because it wouldn't be as bad if Olsen stayed.
Well yes. If we sign a new keeper and he's shit, we would at least have a very experienced keeper who is familiar with the league, his team mates and the way we play. If Olsen is gone and the new keeper is shit, we've got.... Zych.
What are the chances we sign a keeper that's shirt. Our recruitment team is as good as any at the moment I think.Because it wouldn't bYes, I looked him up just after I posted it and realised they'd only just bought him. Still, as someone else pointed out, there's plenty of keepers having great seasons that I'd never paid any attention to before. I don't think Martinez is irreplaceable, the only problem is goalkeeper isn't a position you can mess around with, or ease someone into the league. With Olsen going too, we really need to get it right first time.
Because it wouldn't be as bad if Olsen stayed.
Well yes. If we sign a new keeper and he's shit, we would at least have a very experienced keeper who is familiar with the league, his team mates and the way we play. If Olsen is gone and the new keeper is shit, we've got.... Zych.
I think the problem is no recruitment is perfect - and gk are difficult to replace.
When you see the difference in the team when Olsen is in goal v emi you can see the risk.
Player I thought there might be interest in and there would be more speculation about is Alex Baena at Villareal, seems a younger cheaper version of Asensio and ticks all the boxes for a player a team like us would want, not in the top tier but well capable of getting there. Always surprised that UE hasn't bought more players he's worked with before.
You'd imagine another loan at a club expected to be near the top of the Championship, or the bottom of the PL would be what's hoped for. With the prospect of pulling in £10-15m next yearHe’ll be 23 for the vast majority of next season, 24 the season after. We can’t be going round hoarding players, particularly ones who look unlikely to ever make it as a squad player at a top half Premier League team.
Fuck me ramsdale, spurs second choice keeper.
You guys aren’t making me feel any better about this
Hopefully our scouting extends beyond, “has looked ok in a bad team”. Ramsdale, for instance, makes some really good saves but he’s not great in the air and he gets overly emotional and makes rash decisions with that.
Because it wouldn't bYes, I looked him up just after I posted it and realised they'd only just bought him. Still, as someone else pointed out, there's plenty of keepers having great seasons that I'd never paid any attention to before. I don't think Martinez is irreplaceable, the only problem is goalkeeper isn't a position you can mess around with, or ease someone into the league. With Olsen going too, we really need to get it right first time.
Because it wouldn't be as bad if Olsen stayed.
Well yes. If we sign a new keeper and he's shit, we would at least have a very experienced keeper who is familiar with the league, his team mates and the way we play. If Olsen is gone and the new keeper is shit, we've got.... Zych.
One of the BBC gossip stories is linking us with Caoimhin Kelleher. Dunno how much truth there is in it, could just be his team fishing for a move. I'd say he'll definitely go this summer though.
Yes he’s a good keeper, would be reasonably happy with that.One of the BBC gossip stories is linking us with Caoimhin Kelleher. Dunno how much truth there is in it, could just be his team fishing for a move. I'd say he'll definitely go this summer though.
There was talk he was going to Bournemouth for £30m but our new situation may alter that. He looks good from what I've seen of him.
One of the BBC gossip stories is linking us with Caoimhin Kelleher. Dunno how much truth there is in it, could just be his team fishing for a move. I'd say he'll definitely go this summer though.
There was talk he was going to Bournemouth for £30m but our new situation may alter that. He looks good from what I've seen of him.
🚨🧨 Aston Villa are set to make a £25m move for Strasbourg midfielder Habib Diarra.
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Diogo Costa at FC Porto?
3rd most valuable keeper on transfermarkt at about 30 million, 25 years old, 34 appearances for Portugal?
Been at Porto all his career so far, contract expires in 2 years so getting to squeaky bum time for his current club.
Good call but I get flashbacks of Vitor Baía being sold from Porto to Barca, a record fee for a goalkeeper at the time. Bobby Robson had managed him at Porto and brought him in when he moved to Barca. Robson only lasted a season, as did Baía who was sent back to Porto on loan. He was shocking.I think we're all a bit blinded by Emi love. A 25 year old will generally be worth more than a 32 year old if they are of a comparable level, which they are.
Costa's a very decent keeper but if he's worth £30m then Emi is worth £60m+.
Ramsdale is utter shite. Sorry, that's kind. He's the single worst goalkeeper in the history of mankind. Nope, still being kind. I'd take Enkleman back over him.From what I can recall, Kelleher had been the next big thing just waiting to emerge from the shadows of Alisson, couldn't eternally play second fiddle, etc. He was quite chipper about it.
Kelleher is ok but strikes be as a 3-4 game number 2, not a consistent, big presence number 1.
Kepa was a decent shout a few pages back he's starting to grow into his frame a bit.
Whichever one we go for, coming for crosses and communicating are a must.
Am sure you're right - it might just be the optics of him being effectively demoted to third choice. I thought I had recalled a few little mistakes, but wasn't paying enough attention to bring to mind the details.
Thats who I was trying to think off. That could workDiogo Costa at FC Porto?
3rd most valuable keeper on transfermarkt at about 30 million, 25 years old, 34 appearances for Portugal?
Been at Porto all his career so far, contract expires in 2 years so getting to squeaky bum time for his current club.
Good shout.
If we are looking at two there’s not a chance it’s both of those - that’s the thick of £50m.
I’m assuming Olsen is going, so if Martinez does go I can actually see us looking for 2 keepers, depending on if Unai thinks Gauci is ready.
So the lad Garcia ((Espanyol?) and Kelleher could be two we’re looking at.
I’m assuming Olsen is going, so if Martinez does go I can actually see us looking for 2 keepers, depending on if Unai thinks Gauci is ready.
So the lad Garcia ((Espanyol?) and Kelleher could be two we’re looking at.
Fans would never pronounce his first name properly, just call him the bastardised Sassenach version, "Kevin" Kelleher.
Fans would never pronounce his first name properly, just call him the bastardised Sassenach version, "Kevin" Kelleher.
To be fair, I work with a Caoimhin and there's no consensus in the office as to whether he's KeyVeen or QueeVeen. See also Rosheen and RoeSheen.
^ both the opposite of how they refer to themselves.
^ both the opposite of how they refer to themselves.
Hopefully they won't mind when you use the correct pronunciation.
I’m assuming Olsen is going, so if Martinez does go I can actually see us looking for 2 keepers, depending on if Unai thinks Gauci is ready.
So the lad Garcia ((Espanyol?) and Kelleher could be two we’re looking at.
There's no chance it'll be Gauci. Only played 5 or 6 matches for Barnsley on loan.
Has anyone ever seen Unai's boy play? If so, any good?
Has anyone ever seen Unai's boy play? If so, any good?
I once met a “Sibohan’’ in a school.That has just reminded me of a girl Mrs. Exeter taught whose name was Danellia because her parents couldn't spell Daniella. She also taught a Joop! (complete with the exclamation mark and her mother got arsey when her daughter's name was spelled without it).
I checked and she pronounced it as Siobhan, but I wondered why someone hadn’t spellchecked her birth certificate at the time…and sorry, there isn’t a fada on my keyboard!
[eastie]He's got a restaurant in Valencia apparently.[/eastie]
Unai was at the Mestalla today for the match against Bilbao.
Unai was at the Mestalla today for the match against Bilbao.
Checking up on The Baron?
I once met a “Sibohan’’ in a school.
I checked and she pronounced it as Siobhan, but I wondered why someone hadn’t spellchecked her birth certificate at the time…and sorry, there isn’t a fada on my keyboard!
That has just reminded me of a girl Mrs. Exeter taught whose name was Danellia because her parents couldn't spell Daniella.
Unai was at the Mestalla today for the match against Bilbao.
Checking up on The Baron?
And possibly Mosquera.
I once met a “Sibohan’’ in a school.
I checked and she pronounced it as Siobhan, but I wondered why someone hadn’t spellchecked her birth certificate at the time…and sorry, there isn’t a fada on my keyboard!
That has just reminded me of a girl Mrs. Exeter taught whose name was Danellia because her parents couldn't spell Daniella.
Speaking of which, do we really want to sign someone named Cristhian Mosquera?
I once met a “Sibohan’’ in a school.That has just reminded me of a girl Mrs. Exeter taught whose name was Danellia because her parents couldn't spell Daniella. She also taught a Joop! (complete with the exclamation mark and her mother got arsey when her daughter's name was spelled without it).
I checked and she pronounced it as Siobhan, but I wondered why someone hadn’t spellchecked her birth certificate at the time…and sorry, there isn’t a fada on my keyboard!
Aston Villa are interested in Barcelona forward Ferran Torres, 25, and prepared to offer around 50m euros (£42m) for the Spain international. (Mundo Deportivo - in Spanish)
Atletico Madrid are among several clubs interested in Aston Villa's Argentine midfielder Enzo Barrenechea, 23, who is on loan at Valencia. (Birmingham Mail)
I think the problem is no recruitment is perfect - and gk are difficult to replace.
When you see the difference in the team when Olsen is in goal v emi you can see the risk.
Monchi recruited Olsen at Roma. Just saying, like.
I once met a “Sibohan’’ in a school.That has just reminded me of a girl Mrs. Exeter taught whose name was Danellia because her parents couldn't spell Daniella. She also taught a Joop! (complete with the exclamation mark and her mother got arsey when her daughter's name was spelled without it).
I checked and she pronounced it as Siobhan, but I wondered why someone hadn’t spellchecked her birth certificate at the time…and sorry, there isn’t a fada on my keyboard!
^ there's been several reports linking us with a swap deal for Feran Torres.
So far as I know, you can't play for three different clubs in a season but it's fine if you sign for one and don't play.
With that in mind, is there any rule that stops us: selling Rogers to Chelsea for £500 million, buying him back for same price. Buying Palmer from Chelsea for £500 million, selling him back for the same price?
No actual cash changes hands but we've both sorted our PSR issues for the next five years.
^ there's been several reports linking us with a swap deal for Feran Torres.It's all they know and the most obvious thing so they report it. If Emi does end up there we don't want Barca reservers. Our team is far better than that now.
^ there's been several reports linking us with a swap deal for Feran Torres.It's all they know and the most obvious thing so they report it. If Emi does end up there we don't want Barca reservers. Our team is far better than that now.
Anyway having two Torres in the team would be a disaster of armageddon proportion with some people on here as they can't deal with one Torres.
According to Google, Torres means "towers", meaning it is already plural. I can't see us being allowed to sign another one.
According to Google, Torres means "towers", meaning it is already plural. I can't see us being allowed to sign another one.Two Towers is the best Lord of the Rings book/movie though. And JRR Tolkien was probably a Villa supporter given he must’ve got the inspiration for Mordor from *somewhere* - probably Sandwell - and the orcs are quite obviously based on Small Heath supporters.
^ there's been several reports linking us with a swap deal for Feran Torres.It's all they know and the most obvious thing so they report it. If Emi does end up there we don't want Barca reservers. Our team is far better than that now.
^ there's been several reports linking us with a swap deal for Feran Torres.It's all they know and the most obvious thing so they report it. If Emi does end up there we don't want Barca reservers. Our team is far better than that now.
45 games, 19 goals and 7 assists this season, not too bad for a reserve. He didn’t set the world alight at Man City but that’s not to say he isn’t a good player.
^ there's been several reports linking us with a swap deal for Feran Torres.It's all they know and the most obvious thing so they report it. If Emi does end up there we don't want Barca reservers. Our team is far better than that now.
45 games, 19 goals and 7 assists this season, not too bad for a reserve. He didn’t set the world alight at Man City but that’s not to say he isn’t a good player.
I vaguely remember Guardiola saying he was their best finisher. He seemed to rate him but as a right winger rather than a striker.
Aston Villa are all interested in signing Rayan Cherki.
Olympique Lyon are looking for €22m 🇫🇷
[@fichajesnet] #avfc
I would take him and his mad representative every day of the week and twice on Sunday
Aston Villa are all interested in signing Rayan Cherki.
Olympique Lyon are looking for €22m 🇫🇷
[@fichajesnet] #avfc
I would take him and his mad representative every day of the week and twice on Sunday
Anyway having two Torres in the team would be a disaster of armageddon proportion with some people on here as they can't deal with one Torres.
Was just looking at our goals against this year. 9 teams have let in fewer goals. I know we've tightened up lately and I know we hardly had a fit centre back about midway through the season but that's pretty poor.
I'm struggling to think of a consistent reason for that excess of goals conceded
🚨 Aston Villa are on a ‘huge’ offensive for RC Strasbourg midfielder Habib Diarra.
@MohamedTERParis
🚨 Aston Villa are on a ‘huge’ offensive for RC Strasbourg midfielder Habib Diarra.
@MohamedTERParis
What does that even mean? Are they using bad language and being offensive. Or have they employed the SAS and some other black opps to take out this player?
Sounds Trumpish.
We're going to sign this guy, it's a big offensive, HUGE offensive. People are saying it's the biggest offensive they've ever seen.
I think it was
Sunday Monday Habib Beye
Tuesday Wednesday Habib Beye
Thursday Friday Habib Beye
Saturday, what a day, working all week with you.
Though I'm not sure we ever actually sang it, it was mentioned on here as his Newcastle chant when we signed him.
I think it was
Sunday Monday Habib Beye
Tuesday Wednesday Habib Beye
Thursday Friday Habib Beye
Saturday, what a day, working all week with you.
Though I'm not sure we ever actually sang it, it was mentioned on here as his Newcastle chant when we signed him.
That triggered a memory of this brilliant letter in Letterbocks in Viz.
(https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kltlsiexquota3nli5razaf4/bafkreiapor3pyagttvnza5h7tvkmbclccb5ral34yac7rjg3thcffybolq@jpeg)
Everton and Aston Villa to rival Bournemouth for the signing of Nantes’ Nathan Zézé
Everton and Aston Villa are interested in making a move for Nantes centre-back Nathan Zézé (19), according to Ouest-France. Among Premier League sides, AFC Bournemouth have blinked first in the race to sign the highly promising France U20 centre-back. The Cherries are in the market for a centre-back after Real Madrid triggered Dean Huijsen’s release clause. Bournemouth expected to part ways with the Spain international and they had already submitted a verbal €20m bid to Nantes.
https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2025/everton-and-aston-villa-to-rival-bournemouth-for-the-signing-of-nantes-nathan-zeze/
Zeze would be a top signing.
I think it was
Sunday Monday Habib Beye
Tuesday Wednesday Habib Beye
Thursday Friday Habib Beye
Saturday, what a day, working all week with you.
Though I'm not sure we ever actually sang it, it was mentioned on here as his Newcastle chant when we signed him.
That triggered a memory of this brilliant letter in Letterbocks in Viz.
(https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kltlsiexquota3nli5razaf4/bafkreiapor3pyagttvnza5h7tvkmbclccb5ral34yac7rjg3thcffybolq@jpeg)
The absolute GOAT of Viz letters
I'm worried that Andy Garcia might shoot him while riding a horse and dressed as a cop.
Everton and Aston Villa to rival Bournemouth for the signing of Nantes’ Nathan Zézé
^ Whats the pronunciation? ZehZeh or Zézé like Sunday morning?
Loic Bade - is he actually any good?
Loic Bade - is he actually any good?
Supposedly yes, I remember there was a lot of talk of Liverpool wanting him to replace Van Dijk if he didn't sign a new deal.
Zeze would be a top signing.We'd give him all our loving (and kisses too)
As long as he doesn't have an Antenna HeadZeze would be a top signing.We'd give him all our loving (and kisses too)
He needs a longer beard if we are to make the most of his name.
About time we had another Zepiqueno in the squad.
The day I heard that rumour I woke up with wood.As long as he doesn't have an Antenna HeadZeze would be a top signing.We'd give him all our loving (and kisses too)
Garnacho seems to be pissed about only getting 20 minutes, his brother is having a pop at Amorim too. Would we take him? Reckon Emery could work his magic on him.No as he's shite with appalling attitude, a poisonous serpent who should be no where near our squad. He can fuck off to Spuds with their new found fortune and ruin them instead.
I hate to think what Hookeys reaction would be!
No as he's shite with appalling attitude, a poisonous serpent who should be no where near our squad. He can fuck off to Spuds with their new found fortune and ruin them instead.
There is not a single player (including Rashy) that i would want anywhere near our team - not one of the billy big bollocks wankers
I hope they keep the manager and they cannot shift anyone of their overpaid lumps and the financial complications that would bring would be beautiful to watch
There is not a single player (including Rashy) that i would want anywhere near our team - not one of the billy big bollocks wankers
I hope they keep the manager and they cannot shift anyone of their overpaid lumps and the financial complications that would bring would be beautiful to watch
There is not a single player (including Rashy) that i would want anywhere near our team - not one of the billy big bollocks wankers
I hope they keep the manager and they cannot shift anyone of their overpaid lumps and the financial complications that would bring would be beautiful to watch
Weird about Rashford - who is evidently very good and has put the effort in.
I find a grown man hating a player just because they play for a certain club a little embarrassing, to be honest. Imagine say, hating Mainoo, a lad who got picked up in a catchment area when he was god knows how young, just because he plays for them? The prick. And 'Rashy' has been a net positive for us, although I'm not arguing whether his wages are worth it or not.
I find a grown man hating a player just because they play for a certain club a little embarrassing, to be honest. Imagine say, hating Mainoo, a lad who got picked up in a catchment area when he was god knows how young, just because he plays for them? The prick. And 'Rashy' has been a net positive for us, although I'm not arguing whether his wages are worth it or not.
I'm not certain the loathing is to do with the club he plays for, more the percieved attitude and ability from the words what were written. It's a no from me, too. All style and no substance. I'll add that I said the same about "Step Over, Step Over Fall Over ****" when he was probably a similar age.
There is not a single player (including Rashy) that i would want anywhere near our team - not one of the billy big bollocks wankers
I hope they keep the manager and they cannot shift anyone of their overpaid lumps and the financial complications that would bring would be beautiful to watch
I conceded with Rashford that with a top coach working with him he made a very positive impact the short time he was here. Fair play to him.
My biggest issue was he contributed to a really good team dynamic and seemingly brought the best out of Asensio but for all that was getting more and more pissed off with the sycophantic media making every word about him rather than reporting what a shit coach Amorim must be.
I fear the same circus would follow anyone of the "superstars" they have.
I want fair reporting on a team that has been constructed then moulded by a genius coach into a regular Champs league team rather than how the redfilth have done us a favour.
I should not have to explain myself over the complete loathing of anything to do with them. Especially to a grown man ;)
My biggest issue was he contributed to a really good team dynamic and seemingly brought the best out of Asensio but for all that was getting more and more pissed off with the sycophantic media making every word about him rather than reporting what a shit coach Amorim must be.
I fear the same circus would follow anyone of the "superstars" they have.
I want fair reporting on a team that has been constructed then moulded by a genius coach into a regular Champs league team rather than how the redfilth have done us a favour.
There is not a single player (including Rashy) that i would want anywhere near our team - not one of the billy big bollocks wankers
I hope they keep the manager and they cannot shift anyone of their overpaid lumps and the financial complications that would bring would be beautiful to watch
F7ck me people having a go at me for hating anything to with them fuckers.
I assumed they were universally hated by everyone.
How times have changed.
If anyone wanted that snidey, rat faced,cheating fuck at our club (whoever he played for) then it seems that we would accept anything.
Of all thier current squad he would be the last one I would take - not for any bigger reason than he is a cheat.
Don't like Fernandes but would have him at Villa like a shot. It would strengthen us, and weaken Man U. I fail to see a downside.
De Bruyne could easily turn out to be a Coutinho level of cost and fitness.
No thanks.
Don't like Fernandes but would have him at Villa like a shot. It would strengthen us, and weaken Man U. I fail to see a downside.
Would it strengthen us? Who would he replace?
Don't like Fernandes but would have him at Villa like a shot. It would strengthen us, and weaken Man U. I fail to see a downside.
Would it strengthen us? Who would he replace?
He would play where Asensio is currently residing. We lose Rogers to the right side more but I feel Ratty's scoring / assisting / penalty winning would more then make up for it.
Pay as you play or based on availability.De Bruyne could easily turn out to be a Coutinho level of cost and fitness.
No thanks.
I agree. I'd take him for a year perhaps (if he could provide data that showed his fitness levels) with the option (for us) for another year. But I think he's done in the Premier League.
Don't like Fernandes but would have him at Villa like a shot. It would strengthen us, and weaken Man U. I fail to see a downside.
Would it strengthen us? Who would he replace?
He would play where Asensio is currently residing. We lose Rogers to the right side more but I feel Ratty's scoring / assisting / penalty winning would more then make up for it.
There’s logic there, but I’d prefer the expense was focused on a RW with Rogers returning to the AMC role. I feel the net gain would be greater, assuming we dont have a money tree.
I'm sure Emery'll get a tune out of him.
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He was decent against us.
No. There must be a good Uruguayan goalkeeper.
Would have though Amorim would be after him for next season being as he has experienced a relegation fight already so should be used to it.
Would have though Amorim would be after him for next season being as he has experienced a relegation fight already so should be used to it.
Would have though Amorim would be after him for next season being as he has experienced a relegation fight already so should be used to it.
You'll know they're in trouble when they sign Jordan Ayew.
Would have though Amorim would be after him for next season being as he has experienced a relegation fight already so should be used to it.
You'll know they're in trouble when they sign Jordan Ayew.
Would have though Amorim would be after him for next season being as he has experienced a relegation fight already so should be used to it.
You'll know they're in trouble when they sign Jordan Ayew.
If you'd told me when he played for us, what, ten years ago that he'd still be getting PL games somewhere a decade later, I'd have thought you were fucking mental.
Plenty of them did well either before or after that season. Just not during that season.
No. There must be a good Uruguayan goalkeeper.
I reckon Muslera is the only one they'll every produce and he'll still be going when he's 70.
I dont look at our side and think the midfield is where we need to strengthen.
I find a grown man hating a player just because they play for a certain club a little embarrassing, to be honest. Imagine say, hating Mainoo, a lad who got picked up in a catchment area when he was god knows how young, just because he plays for them? The prick. And 'Rashy' has been a net positive for us, although I'm not arguing whether his wages are worth it or not.
I'm not certain the loathing is to do with the club he plays for, more the percieved attitude and ability from the words what were written. It's a no from me, too. All style and no substance. I'll add that I said the same about "Step Over, Step Over Fall Over ****" when he was probably a similar age.
Trust me, he does this with anything Yanited. I'm indifferent on signing Rashford, I think I'd do it if I knew he was going to be on the left and not up top. His quality against PSG in that second half, though, was undeniable.
I think we should go full tilt for Adam Wharton, he's going to be a top player in the next season/seasons, now is the time to get him, another one that wouldn't cost us anything, we need to get Enzo Barrenchea back from Valencia, get him settled in, mate of mine and Villa fan lives over that way and has watched him a good number of times this season and he says he's become one of the highly rated young players in LaLiga, right under our noses, we need him back.you may be right but Wharton will go to 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' or Arsenal I suspect.
Just seen a tabloid saying West Ham might go in for Martinez. Made me laugh.
Just seen a tabloid saying West Ham might go in for Martinez. Made me laugh.
What are thoughts on if we have to sell one of our key players for PSR reasons, as seems likely sadly,Like you, I think regrettably Kamara would be the best sacrificial lamb at the altar of EUF's wages ratio, only if absolutely necessary. With Barrenechea, Bogarde and Borland available - admittedly mere callow youths compared to the (equally youthful but much more experienced) - Kamara, we can mix and match youth alongside Tielemans, Onana, McGinn and Barkley (whom I'd keep simply as a cheap squad-filler).
who it should be.? ... Also think Juve and Man City are possible destinations for Onana and Kamara. Focus our budget on that elusive 6, maybe Enzo replacing Barkley as backup.
Just seen a tabloid saying West Ham might go in for Martinez. Made me laugh.
That club, even more than Spurs which is saying something, gets an outrageous amount of media attention compared its actual place in the pecking order. As if, AS IF, Martinez would want to go to West pissing Ham Utd.
Any news on the Coca Cola and Guinness deals?
Any news on the Coca Cola and Guinness deals?
A deal with Guinness would be apt, given how long we've been waiting for a trophy.
Any news on the Coca Cola and Guinness deals?
A deal with Guinness would be apt, given how long we've been waiting for a trophy.
We both aren't as bad away from home these days either
I see Garnacho has been told to find another club by Amorim. I like him as a player.It would be interesting to see how he would do under Unai's coaching.
Watching the play-off final I like the look of the Sunderland forward Mayenda, looks the type UE and his coaches could do a good job on.agreed. Le Fee looks decent, too
I see Garnacho has been told to find another club by Amorim. I like him as a player.
I see Garnacho has been told to find another club by Amorim. I like him as a player.
Watching the play-off final I like the look of the Sunderland forward Mayenda, looks the type UE and his coaches could do a good job on.
agreed. Le Fee looks decent, too
I see Garnacho has been told to find another club by Amorim. I like him as a player.
Yeah I think he could be a superstar in the right set up.
Garnacho was annoyed he only got 20 minutes in the final, and Amorim apparently answered a reporters question about him by saying he missed a chance in the QF or SF, so he didn't deserve to play. Sounds ridiculous, but par for the course for Man U these days.
Fuck. That.
Garnacho was annoyed he only got 20 minutes in the final, and Amorim apparently answered a reporters question about him by saying he missed a chance in the QF or SF, so he didn't deserve to play. Sounds ridiculous, but par for the course for Man U these days.
I liked the look of Amorim before he went there but his inability to change from his normal system when it clearly doesn't work for them and how petty he's become in deflecting blame is looking a bit too Stevie G now.
Fuck. That.
He looks like an out and out winger and I wonder if someone like Emery might want his to have slightly more to his game than just running at people.
Fuck. That.
Why? What he's achieved at his age is remarkable. He's got exceptional talent. If we could get him why shouldn't we?
He looks like an out and out winger and I wonder if someone like Emery might want his to have slightly more to his game than just running at people.
He's also 20 years old. He's a year younger than Louie Barry, six months younger than Duran. I'm pretty sure he'll be whatever a decent manager wants to turn him into because he's obviously one of the most talented young players in the world.
I don't think we'll sign him, but if we did I imagine Emery would make him something pretty spectacular.
Not sure on "much rather" but if the finances work I can't see why anyone would turn their nose up at either.
Also, I don't think it'll be any more than the £40m we're supposedly happy to pay for Rashford.
He does look a bit like the idiot son of a Bond villain.
Remember under ten hag the three young blokes him Mainoo and the one that escapes me celebrating that goal. Now this idiot wants to sell them all.
I assume the point is they were looking like the future of the club at one point, and now they're all being pushed out, probably at a loss.
Remember under ten hag the three young blokes him Mainoo and the one that escapes me celebrating that goal. Now this idiot wants to sell them all.Having listened to that Podcast I don’t think he has much choice
Remember under ten hag the three young blokes him Mainoo and the one that escapes me celebrating that goal. Now this idiot wants to sell them all.Having listened to that Podcast I don’t think he has much choice
They need to raise some serious money from transfers.
It’s on the Pre Match thread.Remember under ten hag the three young blokes him Mainoo and the one that escapes me celebrating that goal. Now this idiot wants to sell them all.Having listened to that Podcast I don’t think he has much choice
They need to raise some serious money from transfers.
Sorry, which podcast is that?
why the *** is Cunha going MAnure ? very odd move for him going to a club who could be in relegation next season.
He does look a bit like the idiot son of a Bond villain.
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.Put cash at the start of the list please. I’d put Torres on there too, but that won’t happen
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.Put cash at the start of the list please. I’d put Torres on there too, but that won’t happen
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.Put cash at the start of the list please. I’d put Torres on there too, but that won’t happen
I wonder if Pau is going to become Emery’s blind spot.
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.Put cash at the start of the list please. I’d put Torres on there too, but that won’t happen
I wonder if Pau is going to become Emery’s blind spot.
I saw an interview with Ramsey and Rogers and they said Torres and Kamara are Emery's favourites and can do no wrong. Everyone else cops bollockings.
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.Put cash at the start of the list please. I’d put Torres on there too, but that won’t happen
I wonder if Pau is going to become Emery’s blind spot.
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.Put cash at the start of the list please. I’d put Torres on there too, but that won’t happen
I wonder if Pau is going to become Emery’s blind spot.
Going to? Torres...and far too tolerant of Rogers when he's miles off it. Every manager has at least one
People expecting an all new XI after a shit defeat is always a little baffling. How often does that happen?
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.
I would go with this, plus Asensio will go as will Rashford, I would also add Rogers to this, I find it almost impossible to believe that somebody won't offer Rogers CL football and he will take it.
So in essence, the Villa that started this season will be so different next season.
I'd expect Bailey, Mings, Watkins, Kamara, Cash and Martinez to be off. I'd also sell McGinn. Rebuild time.
I would go with this, plus Asensio will go as will Rashford, I would also add Rogers to this, I find it almost impossible to believe that somebody won't offer Rogers CL football and he will take it.
So in essence, the Villa that started this season will be so different next season.
He might take it - I would be astonished if anyone offers remotely close enough to what we’d be prepared to sell him for though.
Mings and Mcginn will be more than good enough for europa games so wouldn't rush to sell either really. There is going to be a very large turnover this summer either way so keeping the experienced guys like that around will help.
We finished one place outside the Champions League. I think finetuning rather than a massive overhaul is required.Absolutely this….some mad reactions
Always the same after a loss.We finished one place outside the Champions League. I think finetuning rather than a massive overhaul is required.Absolutely this….some mad reactions
We finished one place outside the Champions League. I think finetuning rather than a massive overhaul is required.
Absolutely this….some mad reactions
Always the same after a loss.
Always the same after a loss.We finished one place outside the Champions League. I think finetuning rather than a massive overhaul is required.Absolutely this….some mad reactions
There are a couple of very obvious areas - right back needs strengthening and we badly need more pace out wide.
Or you sell Rogers for an astronomical fee and build again.
Mings and Mcginn will be more than good enough for europa games so wouldn't rush to sell either really. There is going to be a very large turnover this summer either way so keeping the experienced guys like that around will help.
Agreed, going to need a deep squad. After not getting played v Palace or today, Mings might look to move. Id say we would only offer him a 12 month extension. He's far better in PL than Europe. McGinn has to stay, poor today granted.
I think Asensio is a luxury player we can’t afford (maybe literally).We certainly can not start him and Rogers in games where we don’t dominate possession.
We will be suprised how many leave this summer, some of the bigger names too. Yesterday there was no leadership on the field, no-one shouting. On yesterdays performance alone there was not one player I would have said he's irreplaceable.
We will be suprised how many leave this summer, some of the bigger names too. Yesterday there was no leadership on the field, no-one shouting. On yesterdays performance alone there was not one player I would have said he's irreplaceable.
Tielemans. Konsa. That's where the list ends for me. After that every single player has a price. Kamara I would add to the list but if someone goes silly money, then we have Barronechea ready to come in.
We finished one place outside the Champions League. I think finetuning rather than a massive overhaul is required.Absolutely this….some mad reactions
I expect 3-4 to go and 3-4 to come in this summer. Most pressing is the right side, a wide right player and a starting right back, plus a striker to compete/ replace Ollie. The truth is in too many games Watkins has been really very poor this season, while Rogers is better from the left or at 10. We've been better defensively than last season, but going forward missed Diaby and latterly Duran, plus Dougie's goals. Getting pace, trickery and a bulldozer centre forward into the team would be my ideal summer.Palace will return to their normal mediocre self after selling their best players and possibly losing their manager
Sales wise, there'll be a few. Emi, Digne, Bailey look most likely in the short term.
Finding a tactical answer to teams playing 3 at the back is a pretty urgent thing too. Oh and finding a solution to beating Palace... Might come in handy.
I never want to see cash in a villa shirt ever again. A few decent performances in recent weeks doesn't change thatthat's a bit over the top
Obviously yesterday may change things but if moving Cash on is part of the thinking it's a bit odd that he's played nearly every game in the last couple of months while the Garcia / Konsa / Disasi ideas have apparently been abandoned.
If I thought people were being serious, I'd say there's some Arsenal level entitlement going on here. 'sell the lot' etc.
Truth is 1 more point over the course of the season and the same people would be bouncing about how great Emery and the team are.
As it stands we've just qualified for the Europa League, our 3rd season in Europe in a row, having clearly shown we belong with the performances we've had in the Conference and Champions League.
I hope we don't see huge churn, though we need an injection of pace and there will certainly be one or two leaving, as that's what happens every season.
Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
If I thought people were being serious, I'd say there's some Arsenal level entitlement going on here. 'sell the lot' etc.
Truth is 1 more point over the course of the season and the same people would be bouncing about how great Emery and the team are.
As it stands we've just qualified for the Europa League, our 3rd season in Europe in a row, having clearly shown we belong with the performances we've had in the Conference and Champions League.
I hope we don't see huge churn, though we need an injection of pace and there will certainly be one or two leaving, as that's what happens every season.
Spot on. 3-4 in 3-4 out. Likely very high wages out and not signing loan players. Asensio and Rashford must be near on £20m on the wage bill alone. Disasi can't be far off another £5m. Digne and Emi will be a further £15m. That's £40m off the wage bill just not signing loans and selling 2 players. We then need to find young, hungry, pacy players in key areas, and for me, a backup to Youri. A passing holding mid is key to our whole play, Youri tired this season. I'd like to see Barronechea given a chance too.
Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
He gets better crosses in when he cuts back on to his left foot.
If I thought people were being serious, I'd say there's some Arsenal level entitlement going on here. 'sell the lot' etc.
Truth is 1 more point over the course of the season and the same people would be bouncing about how great Emery and the team are.
As it stands we've just qualified for the Europa League, our 3rd season in Europe in a row, having clearly shown we belong with the performances we've had in the Conference and Champions League.
I hope we don't see huge churn, though we need an injection of pace and there will certainly be one or two leaving, as that's what happens every season.
Spot on. 3-4 in 3-4 out. Likely very high wages out and not signing loan players. Asensio and Rashford must be near on £20m on the wage bill alone. Disasi can't be far off another £5m. Digne and Emi will be a further £15m. That's £40m off the wage bill just not signing loans and selling 2 players. We then need to find young, hungry, pacy players in key areas, and for me, a backup to Youri. A passing holding mid is key to our whole play, Youri tired this season. I'd like to see Barronechea given a chance too.
Young and hungry? We tried that, didn’t end well.
Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
He gets better crosses in when he cuts back on to his left foot.
Agreed so odd, put in a cracker yesterday in first half that Onana failed to even jump for.
It was behind him.Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
He gets better crosses in when he cuts back on to his left foot.
Agreed so odd, put in a cracker yesterday in first half that Onana failed to even jump for.
He'd never have reached it.
Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
He has the odd good game like Spurs last week, this seems to paper over the multiple Cash fuck ups , chop backs and poor decisions.Maybe, but its my read on him. I genuinely don't see what he offers the team. Slows down our attacks down the right, weak crosser, can be suspect defensively, spotted him ambling back into position on more that one occasion yesterday while united were attacking down our right side. That's all before the suicidal back pass.
You are my nephew Tom and I claim my five pounds reward. ;-)
It’s a conversation that’s been had a few times this season before and after matches as he just doesn’t rate him whereas the rest of see his limitations but recognise his good points while acknowledging where he underperforms. It’s certainly a position we can improve upon but if you took yesterday as a benchmark it would include the whole squad.
Kamara, Tielemans, JJ and Rogers are absolutely unsellable for me.
Given we're out the CL, Watkins also.
Kamara, Tielemans, JJ and Rogers are absolutely unsellable for me.
Given we're out the CL, Watkins also.
Don't think we are going to have a choice with Kamara. Talented player for sure but his big game temperament is a bit suspect. Man City bound I fear. Going to be hard to replace, Onana is categorically not his replacement. But I think Emery will find a gem.
I think the same with JJ but so disappointed with his lack of impact yesterday off the bench. Half hearted jogging back for their first goal. He let us down at Bournemouth too. Next season, potential has to be replaced with delivery. Get Rogers and JJ in full flight and we should be hard to stop. But does he want it enough? Also, summer working on improving his first touch urgently required.
Where on earth has Kamara to Man City come from. Pep wants a smaller squad and has signed 2 centre mids in the last 12 months to cover Rodri.
Sell Kamara to Man City.
Bring back Doug
Would that work ?
Sell Kamara to Man City.
Bring back Doug
Would that work ?
No and without wishing to go over old ground that’s because they’re different types of player. Once Kamara got injured we tried to get Doug to cover his role and he couldn’t really do it, and in doing it it took away a lot of what he could do. So he’s not a replacement for Kamara.
Where on earth has Kamara to Man City come from. Pep wants a smaller squad and has signed 2 centre mids in the last 12 months to cover Rodri.they've got a lot of cover in those positions - Rodri, Nico, Gundogan, Nunes, Kovacic
I expect 3-4 to go and 3-4 to come in this summer. Most pressing is the right side, a wide right player and a starting right back, plus a striker to compete/ replace Ollie. The truth is in too many games Watkins has been really very poor this season, while Rogers is better from the left or at 10. We've been better defensively than last season, but going forward missed Diaby and latterly Duran, plus Dougie's goals. Getting pace, trickery and a bulldozer centre forward into the team would be my ideal summer.Palace will return to their normal mediocre self after selling their best players and possibly losing their manager
Sales wise, there'll be a few. Emi, Digne, Bailey look most likely in the short term.
Finding a tactical answer to teams playing 3 at the back is a pretty urgent thing too. Oh and finding a solution to beating Palace... Might come in handy.
Sell Kamara to Man City.
Bring back Doug
Would that work ?
Sell Kamara to Man City.
Bring back Doug
Would that work ?
In the words of Dean Smith, "Yeah, no.."
If United can sign Delap, Cunha and Mbueno without any European football and over a billion of debt the world has gone madThey'll probably flog £200 mills worth to be able to.
Did Newcastle lose many big players when they didn't qualify for CL the season after being in it?
They sold Anderson to Forest for £40m and Minteh I Brighton for £35m and hardly signed anyone in fairness to themDid Newcastle lose many big players when they didn't qualify for CL the season after being in it?
No. It just restricted them improving the squad.
They sold Anderson to Forest for £40m and Minteh I Brighton for £35m and hardly signed anyone in fairness to themDid Newcastle lose many big players when they didn't qualify for CL the season after being in it?
No. It just restricted them improving the squad.
If United can sign Delap, Cunha and Mbueno without any European football and over a billion of debt the world has gone madThey'll probably flog £200 mills worth to be able to.
I'm assuming their revenue is higher as well with 10k more then us per home match and their fans buying 5 home shirts a season. They also had the previous owners spend relatively nothing for two seasons which helped them then with spending big since so PSR wasn't the issue it was for us.
I’m just wondering how much we’ll get for Emi (who’s currently taking a short break with his family in Barcelona 👀).
Can they afford him?
I’m just wondering how much we’ll get for Emi (who’s currently taking a short break with his family in Barcelona 👀).
Can they afford him?
Given we are not in the CL, I would take Garnacho off them vs Rashford.
I’m just wondering how much we’ll get for Emi (who’s currently taking a short break with his family in Barcelona 👀).
Can they afford him?
I'd say the best part of £130 for those 3. Throw in Sancho, Onana, Casemiro, Hoijlund or Zirkzee and maybe even Mainoo and you're looking at a fair whack.If United can sign Delap, Cunha and Mbueno without any European football and over a billion of debt the world has gone madThey'll probably flog £200 mills worth to be able to.
Have they got that much? rashford , anthony and Garnacho would be about 100 I suppose .
What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?Enzo could be the replacement for / alternative to kamara. Think he deserves a season at least, and his sale isn't going to make or break things.
Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)
£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.
It would be nice to have a scutty little fucker that everyone hates. A bit like Gordon.Given we are not in the CL, I would take Garnacho off them vs Rashford.
He’s a horrible little whingeing twat that thinks he’s a lot better than what he is, perching on advertising hoardings pretending he’s Ronaldinho like an entitled prick
So would i
Gotta give Enzo a go!!What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?Enzo could be the replacement for / alternative to kamara. Think he deserves a season at least, and his sale isn't going to make or break things.
Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)
£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.
Based on players who seem out of favour I think it's likely Mings, possibly Digne, Bailey, Buendia could all go. Even McGinn as he is getting on. That would clear a lot of wages.
Based on players who seem out of favour I think it's likely Mings, possibly Digne, Bailey, Buendia could all go. Even McGinn as he is getting on. That would clear a lot of wages.
Saying some have said there was no leadership yesterday, selling Mings and McGinn probably not the way to go.
What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?Enzo could be the replacement for / alternative to kamara. Think he deserves a season at least, and his sale isn't going to make or break things.
Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)
£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.
I'd say the best part of £130 for those 3. Throw in Sancho, Onana, Casemiro, Hoijlund or Zirkzee and maybe even Mainoo and you're looking at a fair whack.If United can sign Delap, Cunha and Mbueno without any European football and over a billion of debt the world has gone madThey'll probably flog £200 mills worth to be able to.
Have they got that much? rashford , anthony and Garnacho would be about 100 I suppose .
What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?
Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)
£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.
Based on what they've done in their careers so far, who is giving us nearly £15m for Louie Barry and why are we only getting £7m for Iling-Junior?
Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold? Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde. I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.
Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold? Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde. I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.
There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.
I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.
What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?
Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)
£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.
Great list. We’d be in a good position if we could somehow add Coutinho and Dendonker to those departures.
I think U’d take Enzo off it though.
Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold? Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde. I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.
There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.
I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.
Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold? Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde. I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.
There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.
I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.
He had a bad game, he’s had plenty of good ones.Yes , when he has not needed to defend.
Based on what they've done in their careers so far, who is giving us nearly £15m for Louie Barry and why are we only getting £7m for Iling-Junior?
Based on his performance yesterday, I genuinely hope Maatsen is not first choice left back.
What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?
Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)
£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.
Buendia signed a new contract with us to preserve his transfer value before joining Leverkusen on-loan. They had an option for 20m (Euros and not GBP though, I think) and they're not taking it up. Unless new manager Eric ten Haag has other ideas.
Maybe every time we lose we should sell the whole squad.
Maybe every time we lose we should sell the whole squad.
Digne, Mings, Barkley big decisions required - they only have 12 months left on their deals. Mings,
How much can we get for the tea lady, plus get rid of the stewards,all they do is stand around all dayMaybe every time we lose we should sell the whole squad.
We're still in full meltdown mode.
Digne, Mings, Barkley big decisions required - they only have 12 months left on their deals. Mings,
Digne - Keep if he accepts a longer deal on a reduced wage. If that happens, sell Jnr.
Mings - Essential that he is kept (file with McGinn). They might not play every week but they’re the heartbeat of the squad.
Barkley - Let him leave for a nominal fee (Sunderland would be ideal). Barenechea can be integrated, playing in the Europa and allowing Tielemans to play further forward (which reduces the need for a new Ten).
I thought Barkley was our best signing of the summer. He was a great asset to the team until his injury. Pretty sure he won us quite a few points too. He's obviously not a weekly starter but I'd keep him over Iling-Junior, who hasn't looked impressive at either of his loan clubs.
I thought Barkley was our best signing of the summer. He was a great asset to the team until his injury. Pretty sure he won us quite a few points too. He's obviously not a weekly starter but I'd keep him over Iling-Junior, who hasn't looked impressive at either of his loan clubs.
Amazing opinions aren't they because I think Barkley is absolute gash! Plays like an 85 yr old, slow, ponders then stutters on the ball usually losing it.
I thought Barkley was our best signing of the summer. He was a great asset to the team until his injury. Pretty sure he won us quite a few points too. He's obviously not a weekly starter but I'd keep him over Iling-Junior, who hasn't looked impressive at either of his loan clubs.
I thought Barkley was our best signing of the summer. He was a great asset to the team until his injury. Pretty sure he won us quite a few points too. He's obviously not a weekly starter but I'd keep him over Iling-Junior, who hasn't looked impressive at either of his loan clubs.
I like Barkley, but we need to make space for Barrenechea. The Europa games will be ideal to test him out.
I thought Barkley was our best signing of the summer. He was a great asset to the team until his injury. Pretty sure he won us quite a few points too. He's obviously not a weekly starter but I'd keep him over Iling-Junior, who hasn't looked impressive at either of his loan clubs.
Amazing opinions aren't they because I think Barkley is absolute gash! Plays like an 85 yr old, slow, ponders then stutters on the ball usually losing it.
Pre injury he was playing himself into the team. Post injury he was horrible every time he came on. If there was 3-4 million from a lower half side on the table for him I'd take it and have Barronechea in the squad.
Re the sales etc, I'm not sure it's going to be as bad as being made out. The loans going back slash huge money off the wage bill. Emi going is another £10m plus off. Bailey, Buendia, Nedelkovic will go. After that I think we'll probably be ok and able to buy 3-4 players.
Re the sales etc, I'm not sure it's going to be as bad as being made out. The loans going back slash huge money off the wage bill. Emi going is another £10m plus off. Bailey, Buendia, Nedelkovic will go. After that I think we'll probably be ok and able to buy 3-4 players.
^ Fair assessment.
He was a great signing for us pre injury. I'd say we'd get more money for selling Barrenechea, but Barkley likely on better wages? I'd keep Barrenechea over Barkley, if it was the option, but on the whole he wouldn't be first on the list to go.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.Wouldn't be my choice either but every player has their price . If a bid of £90M came in he's gone .
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
He'd be one of those UE would be least likely to sanction, but everyone has their price. I think we are sometimes guilty of forgetting that for a lot of our players, they are at the level they are at because UE has got them there, he can get others there too. And will. He'll have to.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
He'd be one of those UE would be least likely to sanction, but everyone has their price. I think we are sometimes guilty of forgetting that for a lot of our players, they are at the level they are at because UE has got them there, he can get others there too. And will. He'll have to.
Exactly.
If we sold Rogers for £90m we'd all be gutted, but if it allowed us to sign a right winger and a number 10, let's say Mbuemo and Alex Baena as examples, we'd be a stronger team. I think there will be a huge dollop of pragmatism this summer to create a balanced team for Unai.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
He'd be one of those UE would be least likely to sanction, but everyone has their price. I think we are sometimes guilty of forgetting that for a lot of our players, they are at the level they are at because UE has got them there, he can get others there too. And will. He'll have to.
Exactly.
If we sold Rogers for £90m we'd all be gutted, but if it allowed us to sign a right winger and a number 10, let's say Mbuemo and Alex Baena as examples, we'd be a stronger team. I think there will be a huge dollop of pragmatism this summer to create a balanced team for Unai.
We might be a stronger team. I don’t think that’s certain at all. Rogers is brilliant, and even when he’s not in form he still regularly contributes assists and goals. There’s no guarantee bringing in a couple of good players covers the value he brings.
See I disagree, although I take the point. This isn’t just a financial point for me, there’s an optics point too. It’s very easy to argue he is our crown jewell and so us selling him to a rival gives the impression we’re settling. We have lots of valuable players, but he’s different, and he should be the last we sell.
See I disagree, although I take the point. This isn’t just a financial point for me, there’s an optics point too. It’s very easy to argue he is our crown jewell and so us selling him to a rival gives the impression we’re settling. We have lots of valuable players, but he’s different, and he should be the last we sell.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
He'd be one of those UE would be least likely to sanction, but everyone has their price. I think we are sometimes guilty of forgetting that for a lot of our players, they are at the level they are at because UE has got them there, he can get others there too. And will. He'll have to.
Exactly.
If we sold Rogers for £90m we'd all be gutted, but if it allowed us to sign a right winger and a number 10, let's say Mbuemo and Alex Baena as examples, we'd be a stronger team. I think there will be a huge dollop of pragmatism this summer to create a balanced team for Unai.
We might be a stronger team. I don’t think that’s certain at all. Rogers is brilliant, and even when he’s not in form he still regularly contributes assists and goals. There’s no guarantee bringing in a couple of good players covers the value he brings.
I think in our setup, most good players will have quite a high output in those forward roles. For me he was a real problem for the last 6 weeks because of Emery being so wedded to leaving him on when frankly we were clearly carrying him as he was doing very little offensively or defensively. I put that down to tiredness, but overall if we got an astronomical offer the nature of the beast is to sell and reinvest at the moment.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.Wouldn't be my choice either but every player has their price . If a bid of £90M came in he's gone .
See I disagree, although I take the point. This isn’t just a financial point for me, there’s an optics point too. It’s very easy to argue he is our crown jewell and so us selling him to a rival gives the impression we’re settling. We have lots of valuable players, but he’s different, and he should be the last we sell.
I see that argument completely, but this is a guy we picked up for £10m from Boro last Jan and has had an incredible rise. I think teams are starting to work him out a bit and there's a point where you look at the overall influence he has and wonder if there is a way we could improve. We scored a lot less goals this season in the league (we conceded a lot less too), which for me means we should look at all our attacking options and whether they sum of the parts gets us where we need to be.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
Don't think or want it to happen, just saying we are in a good position to trade well even if we did. The one player I do not think we could replace is Kamara, as he is so specialised in the position he plays in for Emery.
I agree with that, so I wonder why he started playing Rashford up top? The pace of Rashford (which we desperately need) worked well with Asensio in the middle, but then we started playing him as a number 9.
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I agree with that, so I wonder why he started playing Rashford up top? The pace of Rashford (which we desperately need) worked well with Asensio in the middle, but then we started playing him as a number 9.
By my calculations we have added zero new nationalities since Emery took over. It's not good enough. I DEMAND a Uruguayan, Mexican, Korean and someone from somewhere mad like Tajikistan or Belize and I DEMAND them NOW!I'd really like a Mexican winger (or full back would be fine, as long as he's one of the attacking type ones). One that does loads of clever little jinks and tricks and stuff like that ... a proper tricksy player who is a bit mental but everyone loves him cos he's ridiculously talented. Ideally he'd wear a bandana, like Savo didn't.
Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
Don't think or want it to happen, just saying we are in a good position to trade well even if we did. The one player I do not think we could replace is Kamara, as he is so specialised in the position he plays in for Emery.
It wouldn't make much sense because any profit you make on Rogers will be more than swallowed up by the fees and wages of players like Eze and De Bruyne - who would want a minimum of 200k a week.
Yeah, it helps us in the short term financially with PSR, but doesn't help us with wage:turnover requirements.
Agree with this - it would send out entirely the wrong message.Selling Rogers would be ridiculous.
Don't think or want it to happen, just saying we are in a good position to trade well even if we did. The one player I do not think we could replace is Kamara, as he is so specialised in the position he plays in for Emery.
It wouldn't make much sense because any profit you make on Rogers will be more than swallowed up by the fees and wages of players like Eze and De Bruyne - who would want a minimum of 200k a week.
Yeah, it helps us in the short term financially with PSR, but doesn't help us with wage:turnover requirements.
Agree with most of your original post Ashton. But selling Rogers to Chelsea would be the equivalent of waving the white flag in respect of progressing as a club. Martinez, yes. Bailey, yes. Watkins, reluctantly yes. All 3 have peaked in terms of form and this the last chance we can trade at market value given their age. But Rogers, one of 3 players who have been absolutely fantastic this season, after one full season, to a direct competitor? I think I'd probably give up a bit on believing we were serious about wining stuff.
I love all these rumours that come from foreign news sources as it just proves to my mind anyway that Monchi and Vidaganay are master bullshitters when it comes to dropping titbits to journos. It leads everyone up the garden path while we get on with the real target.
Ooh, Panama, new country! Get him signed.
By my calculations we have added zero new nationalities since Emery took over. It's not good enough. I DEMAND a Uruguayan, Mexican, Korean and someone from somewhere mad like Tajikistan or Belize and I DEMAND them NOW!I'd really like a Mexican winger (or full back would be fine, as long as he's one of the attacking type ones). One that does loads of clever little jinks and tricks and stuff like that ... a proper tricksy player who is a bit mental but everyone loves him cos he's ridiculously talented. Ideally he'd wear a bandana, like Savo didn't.
Come on, Monchi and the boffins in the scouting department. Time to earn your wages.
We're at risk of losing all our Latin American appeal if Martinez goes. We've already lost all the Brazilians. Mexican is definitely the way to go. Don't care what position.
We're at risk of losing all our Latin American appeal if Martinez goes. We've already lost all the Brazilians. Mexican is definitely the way to go. Don't care what position.
That's why we have to hold on to Enzo.
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It makes you wonder, really, what is the fucking point?
It makes you wonder, really, what is the fucking point?
Jacob seems keen for Kamara to not sign his new contract.
Tanswell paints a pretty shitty picture, is he right though? We could sell a clutch of fringe and youth prospects (Bailey, Buendia, Barry, Iling, Enzo) that would mean not selling one or two of the seniors he talks about.
Tanswell paints a pretty shitty picture, is he right though? We could sell a clutch of fringe and youth prospects (Bailey, Buendia, Barry, Iling, Enzo) that would mean not selling one or two of the seniors he talks about.
Just said on the ffp thread, I just don't see how it's as bleak as being made out
What concerns me about that post, is Tanswell has been a really good Villa correspondent all season, he’s no hack in my view and does seem to have some knowledge of whats going on within the club.
I mean seriously theres one thing Martinez wanting to go at 32 after 5 years at the club and the club deciding to cash in on Bailey and then players like Beundia. But possibly having to see more than one of the above and/or possibly more than one of Kamara, Ramsey, Watkins and Rogers.
As has been said, what is the fucking point.
Yep I probs am being a bit defeatist. Your probably right in that it might be time for some to move on. But I do think we are a worse side without Dougie for example, Tielemans is brilliant but a different player, them two and Kamara would be incredible. I don’t always think think we’d be worse without Kamara and I’d be absolutely loathe to lose Ramsey or Rogers.What concerns me about that post, is Tanswell has been a really good Villa correspondent all season, he’s no hack in my view and does seem to have some knowledge of whats going on within the club.
I mean seriously theres one thing Martinez wanting to go at 32 after 5 years at the club and the club deciding to cash in on Bailey and then players like Beundia. But possibly having to see more than one of the above and/or possibly more than one of Kamara, Ramsey, Watkins and Rogers.
As has been said, what is the fucking point.
A bit defeatist there I think mate. We became a better team after selling Gray, Gidman and Deehan from the 76/77 team because we had a great manager. We became a better team after selling Platt, because we had a really good manager.
We’ve got a great manager now who (IMO) isn’t phased by selling players. Maybe he could actually do with some who aren’t bored of his long meetings, who knows?
Further, the PSR position isn’t as bad as some are imagining it to be, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Emery actually WANTS to sell some of them - established first-teamers as well as deadwood.
Losing Dougie and Diaby was massive to the way we attack. We've been much poorer for their absence this season. Emery evolved to a different style, but we've never been as good.
Could do with Coutinho and Dendoncker off the wage bill. As was said Digne's wages are much higher than a replacements might be. Cash in on Martinez and Bailey. Has Ramsey done enough for us to feel that he is the future? There's £100m of player sales.
I've got around to thinking Kamara might be one of the players we sacrifice and using Barrenechea as his replacement.
I've got around to thinking Kamara might be one of the players we sacrifice and using Barrenechea as his replacement.
Yes, this wouldn't surprise me. Not ideal but tempered buy the fact he's been average at best the past few weeks and doesn't grab the big games by the scruff of the neck like the truly elite players do.
I've got around to thinking Kamara might be one of the players we sacrifice and using Barrenechea as his replacement.
Yes, this wouldn't surprise me. Not ideal but tempered buy the fact he's been average at best the past few weeks and doesn't grab the big games by the scruff of the neck like the truly elite players do.
No pre season caught up with him though. Zero ability to rotate while Onana and Barkley were crocked. Need some legs in there this summer with them.
I still think Ramsey has a very high ceiling, but next season has to be the one where he fulfils it IMO.
I want to keep Bouba but if he's not going to sign a new deal then I'd rather we let him go than selling someone else this year and losing him next summer anyway when he's down to his last year. If he goes I'd be ok with Enzo as his replacement because he's shown he can do it in 2 of the top 5 leagues now, it'd be a shame to not give him a chance. If he isn't up for it we coped fine for the first couple of months last season without Kamara until other injuries started to stack up so we could get by until January.
Don’t shoot the messenger etc… but someone who may or may not have inside knowledge reckons we’re in for Harvey Elliot.
And also (unrelated) Watkins is off.
We will really miss Watkins. He is key to how we play the game.
Don’t shoot the messenger etc… but someone who may or may not have inside knowledge reckons we’re in for Harvey Elliot.
And also (unrelated) Watkins is off.
We will really miss Watkins. He is key to how we play the game.Interestingly - I wonder if thats part of the point. Unai has evolved how we play each season - and there has been talk that it might be more revolutionary this summer then expected.
I’m a massive Ollie fan and hope he stays BUT maybe at some point the way we build our attack around him is actually holding us back from where Unai wants us to be and we don’t progress to a higher level without a different kind of striker. I’m not saying I want it to happen but maybe that’s in Unais thinking? Just a thought…..
Elliot is the one who looks like he's tipped a bowl of Supernoodles on his head?
Losing Dougie and Diaby was massive to the way we attack. We've been much poorer for their absence this season. Emery evolved to a different style, but we've never been as good.
I’m a massive Ollie fan and hope he stays BUT maybe at some point the way we build our attack around him is actually holding us back from where Unai wants us to be and we don’t progress to a higher level without a different kind of striker. I’m not saying I want it to happen but maybe that’s in Unais thinking? Just a thought…..
I don't know what's to blame for it, but a major problem we had this season was goals not coming from other parts of the pitch. When Watkins was off the boil, we suffered. Season before I think every outfield player scored at least once. Is it a problem solved with a more lethal striker playing in the same team, or do we need a different kind of striker to play how Emery wants.
Elliot is the one who looks like he's tipped a bowl of Supernoodles on his head?
Unfortunately yes.
While the lack of Champions League football leaves us with a 100m blackhole (if you assume we'd do just as well in it as last season) - winning the Europa League would make up half of that.
While the lack of Champions League football leaves us with a 100m blackhole (if you assume we'd do just as well in it as last season) - winning the Europa League would make up half of that.
Isn’t it more like £100m:
- minus what we’ll make in the Europa
- minus the extra televised games on Sunday
- minus the drop in salaries/bonuses
It’s a big drop but hopefully not £100m.
Elliot is the one who looks like he's tipped a bowl of Supernoodles on his head?
Unfortunately yes.
It's a no from me because of his hair (and his name being Harvey).
I still think Ramsey has a very high ceiling, but next season has to be the one where he fulfils it IMO.
Concur with this, he struggled after his serious injury and has picked up loads of niggles, a good pre season and I think he’ll be back on it next season.
He's also our only club home grown player in the first team, which assuming we intend to keep qualifying for European competitions makes him very valuable to us. Certainly wouldn't be interested in swapping him for Harvey Barnes, for example. Losing Emi and Watkins would also mean two 'English' HG players, so I can see us needing to do at least some domestic business, and that's before considering upgrades on the likes of Cash or Konsa many would like. It's going to be an interesting summer.
Elliot is the one who looks like he's tipped a bowl of Supernoodles on his head?
Unfortunately yes.
It's a no from me because of his hair (and his name being Harvey).
It could be much worse. At 15 he thought this was the way to go.
(I didn't realise he was initially at Fulham).
Then went for the scouse perm when he moved up there, so maybe if he moved to the midlands he will just go sensible haircut.
I see things a little differently:Could do with Coutinho and Dendoncker off the wage bill. As was said Digne's wages are much higher than a replacements might be. Cash in on Martinez and Bailey. Has Ramsey done enough for us to feel that he is the future? There's £100m of player sales.Buendia £10m minimum
Barry - £5-10m
Iling Junior - £5-10m
Enzo - £15m
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m
Bailey - £20-25m
That's best part of £100m there
All very good points.
I'm not necessarily in favour of either move, but given they're clearly both going to be available whether we'd have any interest in a loan for Chukwuemeka or Grealish.
Obviously the answer is almost certainly no, but presumably / hopefully at some point we're going to need to address the lack of club-trained players in our European squads.
I think this is where we’re at this summer. Unai has absolutely squeezed the pips out of what he inherited over the last near enough 3 seasons with some judicious additions but is he reaching a point where he thinks his inherited core of Martinez/Cash/Konsa/Mings/McGinn/Kamara/Watkins/Bailey has served its purpose and we need gradually to move in a different direction to maybe progress further.
But I think that is that he would rather add to whats there then have to sell. For example - we would much rather keep Watkins but bring in a replacement and be able to use both.
I think this is where we’re at this summer. Unai has absolutely squeezed the pips out of what he inherited over the last near enough 3 seasons with some judicious additions but is he reaching a point where he thinks his inherited core of Martinez/Cash/Konsa/Mings/McGinn/Kamara/Watkins/Bailey has served its purpose and we need gradually to move in a different direction to maybe progress further.
I'd have tended to agree with you that I think we will, by choice, be doing more business than some think. But then, UEs comments about wanting to keep exactly the same squad if we could, seem to go against that.
But I think that is that he would rather add to whats there then have to sell. For example - we would much rather keep Watkins but bring in a replacement and be able to use both.
I think this is where we’re at this summer. Unai has absolutely squeezed the pips out of what he inherited over the last near enough 3 seasons with some judicious additions but is he reaching a point where he thinks his inherited core of Martinez/Cash/Konsa/Mings/McGinn/Kamara/Watkins/Bailey has served its purpose and we need gradually to move in a different direction to maybe progress further.
I'd have tended to agree with you that I think we will, by choice, be doing more business than some think. But then, UEs comments about wanting to keep exactly the same squad if we could, seem to go against that.
I see things a little differently:Could do with Coutinho and Dendoncker off the wage bill. As was said Digne's wages are much higher than a replacements might be. Cash in on Martinez and Bailey. Has Ramsey done enough for us to feel that he is the future? There's £100m of player sales.Buendia £10m minimum
Barry - £5-10m
Iling Junior - £5-10m
Enzo - £15m
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m
Bailey - £20-25m
That's best part of £100m there
Buendia £15m minimum; more like £20m
Barry - £5-10m; yes - £7-8m max
Iling Junior - £5-10m; £5m, probably
Enzo - £15m; NOT FOR SALE
Dendonker - free
Coutinho - free
Ned - £10-15m; £12M I've seen mentioned
Bailey - £20-25m; £25m
So £65-70m from this lot. There'll be 3-4 kids who get moved on as well (KKH, Feeney, perhaps ...) for another £20m.
If we decide we have to sell from the pot of first-choice players, I'm guessing it will be Kamara, regrettably.
I agree Chris. I can’t think of a time this season when I’ve missed either player. The reason we’ve not made CL this year isn’t because we’ve been worse going forward.
Anyone know what is happening with Moreno? Coming back, being bought by Forest? Just forgotten by everyone when making lists of players and their values?
I agree Chris. I can’t think of a time this season when I’ve missed either player. The reason we’ve not made CL this year isn’t because we’ve been worse going forward.
Of course it is. We've scored 18 less goals this season. We've been 10 goals better defensively, but lost 18 goals going forward. To say we've not missed Diaby and Luiz from an attacking perspective is simply untrue. The stats, and the style of play both play that out. We've won a number of games by the odd goal, but have lacked the ability to create chances in the same way this season.
I'm still not sure it's conclusive evidence that Luiz or (in particular) Diaby would've been worth 18 more goals this season. I certainly haven't pined for them. We've had games when we've missed key chances and conceded late goals - that's what's done for us (that and an inexperienced referee). Also Watkins hasn't been as clinical.
I'm still not sure it's conclusive evidence that Luiz or (in particular) Diaby would've been worth 18 more goals this season. I certainly haven't pined for them. We've had games when we've missed key chances and conceded late goals - that's what's done for us (that and an inexperienced referee). Also Watkins hasn't been as clinical.
Ultimately, Rogers' improvement hasn't been enough to compensate for the loss of Diaby and Bailey's drop in form.
Having a semi-competent penalty taker would have made up for a lot of what we lost from Douglas Luiz.
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What is the respective Xg for the past two seasons?
I've certainly felt that we don't look as threatening going forward and create fewer chances and look less secure at the back, particularly later in games. But I accept the point tally doesn't really support that.
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Yup, who comes with good pedigree.
I'd be keen to keep Mings, but all of him Ozcan and Pau for the LCB position feels like a lot.
We’d be mad to sell Roger’s and I think or hope Emery wouldn’t even contemplate it. He’s been outstanding.
I still think Ramsey has a very high ceiling, but next season has to be the one where he fulfils it IMO.I think Ramsey could be one of the players the club cashes in on. It's pure profit like Grealish was. He won't go for that kind of money but he's got to be worth north of 50mil. I really like him and I hope I'm wrong but I think he's a prime candidate to be moved on.
I think that performance at Old Trafford may have clouded things a bit in terms of the need for major changes. I came out of the last hone game against Spurs thinking that a couple of additions to that starting XI and we would be well set for next season.
Finances may dictate that we need to sell some we wouldn't particularly want to, but that starting XI was:
Martinez
Cash
Konsa
Torres
Maatsen
Kamara
Onana
McGinn
Rogers
Asensio
Watkins
That would leave a side not playing that day of:
Gauci
Garcia
Disasi (accept he's only on loan)
Mings
Digne
Barkley
Bogarde
Ramsey
Bailey
Tielemans
Maatsen
For me, that starting XI needs a new RB (patience has finally worn out with Cash after the weekend), Tielemans in for Asensio and a quality right sided player which means Rogers could go to the left. We would need to add a few in the back up side, but I think that would be a decent enough squad.
It seems that he's been playing CB but he thinks thatDon't forget our sigming from Kasimpasa.
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Yup, who comes with good pedigree.
I'd be keen to keep Mings, but all of him Ozcan and Pau for the LCB position feels like a lot.
I'm still not sure it's conclusive evidence that Luiz or (in particular) Diaby would've been worth 18 more goals this season. I certainly haven't pined for them. We've had games when we've missed key chances and conceded late goals - that's what's done for us (that and an inexperienced referee). Also Watkins hasn't been as clinical.
Ultimately, Rogers' improvement hasn't been enough to compensate for the loss of Diaby and Bailey's drop in form.
Having a semi-competent penalty taker would have made up for a lot of what we lost from Douglas Luiz.
I'm still not sure it's conclusive evidence that Luiz or (in particular) Diaby would've been worth 18 more goals this season. I certainly haven't pined for them. We've had games when we've missed key chances and conceded late goals - that's what's done for us (that and an inexperienced referee). Also Watkins hasn't been as clinical.
Ultimately, Rogers' improvement hasn't been enough to compensate for the loss of Diaby and Bailey's drop in form.
Having a semi-competent penalty taker would have made up for a lot of what we lost from Douglas Luiz.
Did we miss many penalties that mattered ?
I'm still not sure it's conclusive evidence that Luiz or (in particular) Diaby would've been worth 18 more goals this season. I certainly haven't pined for them. We've had games when we've missed key chances and conceded late goals - that's what's done for us (that and an inexperienced referee). Also Watkins hasn't been as clinical.
Ultimately, Rogers' improvement hasn't been enough to compensate for the loss of Diaby and Bailey's drop in form.
Having a semi-competent penalty taker would have made up for a lot of what we lost from Douglas Luiz.
Did we miss many penalties that mattered ?
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Yup, who comes with good pedigree.
I'd be keen to keep Mings, but all of him Ozcan and Pau for the LCB position feels like a lot.
Do we think Ozcan is coming in to play this year then? I’d assumed he’d be someone we loaned out
I'm still not sure it's conclusive evidence that Luiz or (in particular) Diaby would've been worth 18 more goals this season. I certainly haven't pined for them. We've had games when we've missed key chances and conceded late goals - that's what's done for us (that and an inexperienced referee). Also Watkins hasn't been as clinical.
Ultimately, Rogers' improvement hasn't been enough to compensate for the loss of Diaby and Bailey's drop in form.
Having a semi-competent penalty taker would have made up for a lot of what we lost from Douglas Luiz.
Did we miss many penalties that mattered ?
We missed 3 out of 6 in the league - Asensio missed two at Southampton but we ended up winning anyway. The one Tielemans missed (had saved) againt Palace at home may have cost us 2 points.
As good as he can be, it wouldn't be the end of the world selling Rogers. I'd prefer we keep him but when he's out on the right it's like playing with 10 men (9 if you count Watkins) for most of the game. I prefer to see Rogers as the 10, if Asensio is to fill that roll I'd have Rogers on the bench and somebody more suited like Malen or a signing on the right.Agree with this, although Emery appears to have bet the house on Rogers, having played him comprehensively throughout the season; so he ain't going anywhere unless someone comes in with a huge load of wonga.
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Yup, who comes with good pedigree.
I'd be keen to keep Mings, but all of him Ozcan and Pau for the LCB position feels like a lot.
Do we think Ozcan is coming in to play this year then? I’d assumed he’d be someone we loaned out
Called up for the full Turkey squad, which to me suggests he could be in our first-team squad. Would Turkey still be categorised as ‘no mugs’ at international level?
I dont think were any less of a pull than Spurs all thing considered.
Have Joao Felix rumours started yet?
If only we were in the Champions League
Tottenham Hotspur are reportedly keen on FC Copenhagen attacker Roony Bardghji, and the player is open to joining them in the summer.
According to a report from Give Me Sport, Tottenham have been handed a major boost in their pursuit of the 19-year-old Swedish youth International. The fact that he wants to join them will help them negotiate a reasonable deal for the player. They will face competition from Aston Villa and Manchester United as well.
https://thehardtackle.com/transfer-news/2025/05/28/roony-bardghji-open-to-tottenham-move/
If only we were in the Champions League
Probably about the same. I think we finished 6th and have Unai - they finished 17 and although they have UCL - its a bit of a shit showI dont think were any less of a pull than Spurs all thing considered.
Would you have said that Spurs were less of a pull than us last summer?
As good as he can be, it wouldn't be the end of the world selling Rogers. I'd prefer we keep him but when he's out on the right it's like playing with 10 men (9 if you count Watkins) for most of the game. I prefer to see Rogers as the 10, if Asensio is to fill that roll I'd have Rogers on the bench and somebody more suited like Malen or a signing on the right.Agree with this, although Emery appears to have bet the house on Rogers, having played him comprehensively throughout the season; so he ain't going anywhere unless someone comes in with a huge load of wonga.
Probably about the same. I think we finished 6th and have Unai - they finished 17 and although they have UCL - its a bit of a shit showI dont think were any less of a pull than Spurs all thing considered.
Would you have said that Spurs were less of a pull than us last summer?
Probably about the same. I think we finished 6th and have Unai - they finished 17 and although they have UCL - its a bit of a shit showI dont think were any less of a pull than Spurs all thing considered.
Would you have said that Spurs were less of a pull than us last summer?
I don't think we'll sell Mings, or get 20m for Buendia.
Surely there is another point here. If you lose 22 league games, finish 17th, with a points tally that would normally get a team relegated, do you really have that many decent players. It can’t all be blamed on big Ange Mate.Probably about the same. I think we finished 6th and have Unai - they finished 17 and although they have UCL - its a bit of a shit showI dont think were any less of a pull than Spurs all thing considered.
Would you have said that Spurs were less of a pull than us last summer?
But they are in the main European competition next season and are unlikely to have to sell any of their decent players this summer.
Surely there is another point here. If you lose 22 league games, finish 17th, with a points tally that would normally get a team relegated, do you really have that many decent players. It can’t all be blamed on big Ange Mate.Probably about the same. I think we finished 6th and have Unai - they finished 17 and although they have UCL - its a bit of a shit showI dont think were any less of a pull than Spurs all thing considered.
Would you have said that Spurs were less of a pull than us last summer?
But they are in the main European competition next season and are unlikely to have to sell any of their decent players this summer.
QuoteQuoteQuoteI'd rather we just leave Rogers now. I'm sure we can make better use of £15m in the summer.
If we were talking about a player who would likely be straight up to speed and help us secure top 5 I'd probably be for it. But it seems to me he's very much a work in progress. Unless Ramsey has had a major setback I hope we just move on.
The fact that Boro appear to be looking towards a world class potential fee for a player who I doubt will ever be world class means that we should move on.
Don't get me wrong, that is Boros prerogative, but we should not be entertaining the idea for much longer.
I don't mind paying £15M+ for Roony Bardghji, for example, but Rogers is a squad filler type player in my humble opinion.
I’m not sure what a world class fee is, but £15m isn’t that big. If he went onto be a reasonable premier league player we would comfortably recoup that.
It's subjective, thats what it is. ;D
In my subjective humble opinion, paying £15M-£20M is reasonable for what could be considered a potential "world class" prospect.
ManC are paying around that fee for some of the South Americans recently. Brighton manage to get them much lower thanks to their owners 'scouting software'. Chelsea pay all of the money because they are a basket case of a club.
I suppose there fee is also subject to how much experience they have at their age & at what level was that experience gained.
But then again, I suppose "world class" is also subjective...
I don't think we'll sell Mings, or get 20m for Buendia.
Leeds United are reportedly still interested in signing Aston Villa winger Emi Buendia this summer.
Buendia, a former Championship Player of the Season with Norwich City, is someone that they like the look of heading into the upcoming window, according to Ben Jacobs.
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/leeds-united-retain-an-interest-aston-villa-emi-buendia/
I would be happy with anywhere between £18 -£22 m
As others have mentioned we desperately need to rediscover some of our spark going forward. We’ve had some great moments, but there was nothing like the consistency in that space that we saw in the first half of last season. I think pace on the flanks is a key part to that, or at least on one flank.
I think Mings will go because I dont think Unai trusts him in the big matches. Plus Ozcan will be coming back into the frame.
I dont want him to go because I think he is our best defender, just I'm trying to read the tea leaves
As others have mentioned we desperately need to rediscover some of our spark going forward. We’ve had some great moments, but there was nothing like the consistency in that space that we saw in the first half of last season. I think pace on the flanks is a key part to that, or at least on one flank.
Agree. McGinn, Ramsey and Rogers can be inverted LW, with the LB overlapping. Pace is needed on the RW, basically Rashford but on the other side.
We have pace, Mallen.
Hardly ever used, no idea why we bought him.
We have pace, Mallen.
Hardly ever used, no idea why we bought him.
My slight worry is that Emery is a bit like Guardiola, and that they want to change the players they sign rather than evolve them.
Emery made a huge difference to players when he first arrived, it didn't take long at all, so why should it take 6 months after signing a new one?
I know I've argued before about giving players time, and I still believe it, I just worry it's the manager rather than the players...
We see with news players that they come in, show glimpses of what they've done before then have it coached out of them.
I've got around to thinking Kamara might be one of the players we sacrifice and using Barrenechea as his replacement.
I am more relaxed about losing Ramsey and Kamara than most on here I think.I agree with this. I really like both players and because of that tend to overlook the fact they miss large chunks of the season and perhaps we could do better.
Both are talents, but both seem to be injured a lot and we invariably spend at least a third of the season with them either injured or finding form post injury anyway.
If it fixes FFP and allows two similar level players to come in then I think we will cope just fine. Barrenechea and Onana are decent and can play in Kamara's position. Rogers best position is where Ramsey plays, and we may be able to bring in Rashford if he went (who is a better fit for the team).
Agree on Ramsey, he's got potential but at nearly 24 if we got £40m plus for him it's good business and he's replaceable.
Kamara I'd want to keep if possible, I'd want £75m plus for him to even consider it.
Agree on Ramsey, he's got potential but at nearly 24 if we got £40m plus for him it's good business and he's replaceable.
Kamara I'd want to keep if possible, I'd want £75m plus for him to even consider it.
£40m is close to what Everton paid for Iwobi at a similar age. I would hope for a brilliant 24yr old versus a bog standard one we’d get quite a bit more.
I think some have short memories when it comes to Kamara. You don’t just replace a player as good as Kamara that easily. Onana is a different player and young Barranchea is just that, young, you can’t automatically presume he can just replace Kamara.
Although not in Emery’s time, it took us years to find a player as good as Kamara in that position.
If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then obviously that changes things, but we don’t know that yet.
I’d be gutted if we let Ramsey go as well, particularly with Rashford probably not signing. He was brilliant in 2023/24 and a key player for Emery, combining brilliantly with Moreno. Now he’s over his injury Id hopefully for similar dynamism with Maatsen next year.
Yes sorry 22/23, he was injured last year, standard corrected. Rashford won’t be here and Im not sure you’re right about Rogers on the left.I think some have short memories when it comes to Kamara. You don’t just replace a player as good as Kamara that easily. Onana is a different player and young Barranchea is just that, young, you can’t automatically presume he can just replace Kamara.
Although not in Emery’s time, it took us years to find a player as good as Kamara in that position.
If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then obviously that changes things, but we don’t know that yet.
I’d be gutted if we let Ramsey go as well, particularly with Rashford probably not signing. He was brilliant in 2023/24 and a key player for Emery, combining brilliantly with Moreno. Now he’s over his injury Id hopefully for similar dynamism with Maatsen next year.
It was 22/23 that he was brilliant. Both last season and this have been very in and out due to injuries. I really really like Ramsey, but he doesn't impact games nearly enough. Rashford or Rogers on the left are simply more productive, which is the standard we should be aiming for.
I don't see Malen as being the standard we need. As an option or for resting players sure but we need to be targeting better quality on the right/up-front. I know Jarrod Bowen is highly unlikely but he's the one player I would chuck the budget at. Goals, assists, movement, great attitude. He's wasting his time at that shitshow.
Ramsey has had 1 big injury and then loads of complications arising from it.
Ramsey has had 1 big injury and then loads of complications arising from it.
Despite hating the little shit that gave JJ that injury, I reckon Francisco Conceição would be perfect on our right hand side and from what I'm reading Juventus aren't going to take up the option of keeping him. He doesn't want to go back to Porto. The numbers look realistic too, down from €45m to €30m. He may be small but like Mazrim, he's hard as nails.
I don't see Malen as being the standard we need. As an option or for resting players sure but we need to be targeting better quality on the right/up-front. I know Jarrod Bowen is highly unlikely but he's the one player I would chuck the budget at. Goals, assists, movement, great attitude. He's wasting his time at that shitshow.
He's played less than 300 minutes for us, and scored 3 goals. Over a season that sort of goals per minute record would have him at well over 30. I know it's not that simple but he's done really well in most of his appearances so far so probably needs a little more time before writing him off.
Ramsey has had 1 big injury and then loads of complications arising from it.
Despite hating the little shit that gave JJ that injury, I reckon Francisco Conceição would be perfect on our right hand side and from what I'm reading Juventus aren't going to take up the option of keeping him. He doesn't want to go back to Porto. The numbers look realistic too, down from €45m to €30m. He may be small but like Mazrim, he's hard as nails.
Favourite away player all season for me. Thought he was outstanding against us and would love us to buy him.
Is he quick, as RW is the obvious spot to add much needed pace.
Ramsey has had 1 big injury and then loads of complications arising from it.
Despite hating the little shit that gave JJ that injury, I reckon Francisco Conceição would be perfect on our right hand side and from what I'm reading Juventus aren't going to take up the option of keeping him. He doesn't want to go back to Porto. The numbers look realistic too, down from €45m to €30m. He may be small but like Mazrim, he's hard as nails.
Favourite away player all season for me. Thought he was outstanding against us and would love us to buy him.
He's a tenacious little shit too who I think would easily adapt to the PL. A non-Granny looking Anthony Gordon is the first thing that springs to mind. He also shares the same agent as Emi, Jorge Mendes. Why not?
A few weeks ago Kamara was talked about as irreplaceable. Personally I still think we’d be mad moving him, Ramsey or Roger’s on.
A few weeks ago Kamara was talked about as irreplaceable. Personally I still think we’d be mad moving him, Ramsey or Roger’s on.
Ideally of course we wouldn't but the tea leaves are suggesting at least one of the big guns will have to leave. He's a big PSR plus and does miss a lot of games in comparison to other big guns like Tielemans, Rogers, Watkins, Martinez, Konsa. Onana isn't the answer as a replacement.
Ramsey has many more gears left him. Areas of his game he needs to work on for sure but huge potential. Not sure Emery is fully convinced though. Rashford, McGinn, Rogers all got plenty of minutes on that flank, even when Ramsey was available.
If you're right Rigadon, then we're arguably selling at their peak value so, whilst cold hearted, it makes good business sense.
Sell Watkins, Martinez and Bailey for a combined £100-120m and buy Jonathan David on a free (comparable wages), Garcia/Kellegher or the French goalie for £30m and a reserve for £10m (should be saving on wages). That leaves a war chest to go big on a Right Winger. And probably a bit left over.
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On Vlahovic:
1 good season is completely wrong, he's hit double figures 5 years in a row. The 2 worst seasons in that (where he got 10) he barely played 50% of the minutes in the league for various reasons.
I'm not sure if I'd want him, he's more Duran than Watkins in terms of attitude and style but he's a fucking good striker.
On Vlahovic:
1 good season is completely wrong, he's hit double figures 5 years in a row. The 2 worst seasons in that (where he got 10) he barely played 50% of the minutes in the league for various reasons.
I'm not sure if I'd want him, he's more Duran than Watkins in terms of attitude and style but he's a fucking good striker.
He also appears to be a massive c***. So it's a no from me.
On Vlahovic:
1 good season is completely wrong, he's hit double figures 5 years in a row. The 2 worst seasons in that (where he got 10) he barely played 50% of the minutes in the league for various reasons.
I'm not sure if I'd want him, he's more Duran than Watkins in terms of attitude and style but he's a fucking good striker.
On Vlahovic:
1 good season is completely wrong, he's hit double figures 5 years in a row. The 2 worst seasons in that (where he got 10) he barely played 50% of the minutes in the league for various reasons.
I'm not sure if I'd want him, he's more Duran than Watkins in terms of attitude and style but he's a fucking good striker.
Agree with most of that but trying to compare him to either Watkins or Duran is a bit pointless; when fit and on form he's probably the most perfect classic number 9, an amazing centre forward. Edinson Cavani is probably a better shout though Vlahovic is only 25. We can dream.
On Vlahovic:
1 good season is completely wrong, he's hit double figures 5 years in a row. The 2 worst seasons in that (where he got 10) he barely played 50% of the minutes in the league for various reasons.
I'm not sure if I'd want him, he's more Duran than Watkins in terms of attitude and style but he's a fucking good striker.
Agree with most of that but trying to compare him to either Watkins or Duran is a bit pointless; when fit and on form he's probably the most perfect classic number 9, an amazing centre forward. Edinson Cavani is probably a better shout though Vlahovic is only 25. We can dream.
As above, that was mostly to point out that he's a fucking nutjob. What I meant about style is that, like Duran, he's liable to shoot from anywhere.
On Vlahovic:
1 good season is completely wrong, he's hit double figures 5 years in a row. The 2 worst seasons in that (where he got 10) he barely played 50% of the minutes in the league for various reasons.
I'm not sure if I'd want him, he's more Duran than Watkins in terms of attitude and style but he's a fucking good striker.
Agree with most of that but trying to compare him to either Watkins or Duran is a bit pointless; when fit and on form he's probably the most perfect classic number 9, an amazing centre forward. Edinson Cavani is probably a better shout though Vlahovic is only 25. We can dream.
As above, that was mostly to point out that he's a fucking nutjob. What I meant about style is that, like Duran, he's liable to shoot from anywhere.
Like most Serb nationalists.
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
What's he done to upset you other than (potentially) take Watkins place. Have I missed something?
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
Yeah, he is. A ******, I mean, not a loveable 'character'.
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
Yeah, he is. A ******, I mean, not a loveable 'character'.
What’s he done? Didn’t realise he had a reputation
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
Yeah, he is. A ******, I mean, not a loveable 'character'.
What’s he done? Didn’t realise he had a reputation
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
What's he done to upset you other than (potentially) take Watkins place. Have I missed something?
Not speaking for anyone but didn’t he make some sign that was originally seen as pro Serbian nationalism, I thought I read somewhere, probably on here, that it was cleared up as something less offensive?
Kamara is great at breaking the play up defensively, of late he has tried to be more offemsive but doesn't have the pace.
Coppola targeted by Brighton and Aston Villa after first Italy call
Aston Villa are also showing an interest in Coppola, whose price-tag is a minimum of €10m plus performance-related bonuses and add-ons.
His current contract with Hellas Verona runs to June 2027 and whatever his transfer would be the first move away from his home town.
https://football-italia.net/coppola-brighton-and-aston-villa-italy-call/
In our price range
Coppola targeted by Brighton and Aston Villa after first Italy call
Aston Villa are also showing an interest in Coppola, whose price-tag is a minimum of €10m plus performance-related bonuses and add-ons.
His current contract with Hellas Verona runs to June 2027 and whatever his transfer would be the first move away from his home town.
https://football-italia.net/coppola-brighton-and-aston-villa-italy-call/
In our price range
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
He’s not a loveable nut job though is he? In fact, he seems to be a bit of a ******.
Yeah, he is. A ******, I mean, not a loveable 'character'.
What’s he done? Didn’t realise he had a reputation
I've just read it, he really is a *******. He wore a T-shirt with the inscription "Be happy, Serbian race" and a picture of "Greater Serbia", which includes Kosovo. He held up a Serbian ethno-nationalist hand symbol used by fascist militias involved in the genocide of Bosnian Muslims, by the Serbian Nazi government from World War II and by supporters of convicted war criminals.
Pretty impressive highlights reel. We need a physical right-footer back there IMO.
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Maybe something was lost in translation.
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Maybe something was lost in translation.
Outstanding.
That Marcin Bułka has a market value of £20m on Transfermarkt. Doesn't sound like a backup goalkeeper.How many back-up keepers does a squad need?!
I think some have short memories when it comes to Kamara. You don’t just replace a player as good as Kamara that easily. Onana is a different player and young Barranchea is just that, young, you can’t automatically presume he can just replace Kamara.You say Barrenechea is young: he's just turned 24 - older than Kamara was when he joined us - and has had 2 full seasons in 2 decent leagues.
Although not in Emery’s time, it took us years to find a player as good as Kamara in that position.
If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract then obviously that changes things, but we don’t know that yet.
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That Marcin Bułka has a market value of £20m on Transfermarkt. Doesn't sound like a backup goalkeeper.How many back-up keepers does a squad need?!
I do think for £5m Kepa is a no brainer too.
I've just read it, he really is a *******. He wore a T-shirt with the inscription "Be happy, Serbian race" and a picture of "Greater Serbia", which includes Kosovo. He held up a Serbian ethno-nationalist hand symbol used by fascist militias involved in the genocide of Bosnian Muslims, by the Serbian Nazi government from World War II and by supporters of convicted war criminals.
Coppola targeted by Brighton and Aston Villa after first Italy call
Aston Villa are also showing an interest in Coppola, whose price-tag is a minimum of €10m plus performance-related bonuses and add-ons.
His current contract with Hellas Verona runs to June 2027 and whatever his transfer would be the first move away from his home town.
https://football-italia.net/coppola-brighton-and-aston-villa-italy-call/
In our price range
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Maybe something was lost in translation.
I don't see Malen as being the standard we need. As an option or for resting players sure but we need to be targeting better quality on the right/up-front.
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Maybe something was lost in translation.
Bastard, beat me to it.
Most reports on him are that he's not very good with the ball at his feet, which seems at odds with what we're trying to do.
Maybe something was lost in translation.
Bastard, beat me to it.
I dont get it?
Coppola targeted by Brighton and Aston Villa after first Italy call
Aston Villa are also showing an interest in Coppola, whose price-tag is a minimum of €10m plus performance-related bonuses and add-ons.
His current contract with Hellas Verona runs to June 2027 and whatever his transfer would be the first move away from his home town.
https://football-italia.net/coppola-brighton-and-aston-villa-italy-call/
In our price range
Lost in Translation is great, even if not a lot happens in it.
No. The worst film I've ever seen.
Lost in Translation is great, even if not a lot happens in it.
Easily the most boring film in the history of film
No. The worst film I've ever seen.
No. The worst film I've ever seen.
Yes, the only film I've ever left half way through at the cinema. Utter nonsense.
No. The worst film I've ever seen.
Yes, the only film I've ever left half way through at the cinema. Utter nonsense.
I don't want to derail the thread too much - I want to Google Slovenian trequartistas as much as the next reprobate - but the reason I cannot bear that fucking film is the fucking quasi-profundity it pretends to aspire to. You get the sense that whichever prick made it wanted you to think you were a little wiser at the end than you were at the beginning, whereas you've just sat through the filmic equivalent of a Queen gig if Jordan Peterson was the singer. Offensively bad.
No. The worst film I've ever seen.
Yes, the only film I've ever left half way through at the cinema. Utter nonsense.
I don't want to derail the thread too much - I want to Google Slovenian trequartistas as much as the next reprobate - but the reason I cannot bear that fucking film is the fucking quasi-profundity it pretends to aspire to. You get the sense that whichever prick made it wanted you to think you were a little wiser at the end than you were at the beginning, whereas you've just sat through the filmic equivalent of a Queen gig if Jordan Peterson was the singer. Offensively bad.
Thought Shawshank Redemption was the worst film you’ve ever seen?
For truly bad films, see Ocean's 12 or The Suicide Squad, which I was left convinced was done as a tax write-off.
You'd suspect that Emery would like to see Barranechea in pre season training before any long term decision os made on his future.
For truly bad films, see Ocean's 12 or The Suicide Squad, which I was left convinced was done as a tax write-off.
You need to change the latter to the Suicide Squad or just Suicide Squad. "The Suicide Squad" is the reboot done by James Gunn which was massively superior.
That sounds great.
Worst film you say? I’ll see whatever you all have and go all in with Veloci Pastor.
Described as
After losing his parents, a priest travels to China, where he inherits a mysterious ability that allows him to turn into a dinosaur. Although he is horrified by the new power, a sex worker convinces him to use it to fight crime.
There's a sequel too!Worst film you say? I’ll see whatever you all have and go all in with Veloci Pastor.
Described as
After losing his parents, a priest travels to China, where he inherits a mysterious ability that allows him to turn into a dinosaur. Although he is horrified by the new power, a sex worker convinces him to use it to fight crime.
What platform is this film on? I feel the need for some eye bleeding viewing.
I wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
I wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
I wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
I hope not…with them having CL not Conf League you’d hope they will want both in the squad
Getting it back on topic :-) Interview with a vampire was a terrible film but then I watched The Purge:Election Year and that has taken the crown as shitest film I’ve watched in its entirety :-)
I wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
What film is this?
Mint DelapI wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
What film is this?
Right, I only knew the fella from Ghostbusters was in it.
I wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
I hope not…with them having CL not Conf League you’d hope they will want both in the squad
Getting it back on topic :-) Interview with a vampire was a terrible film but then I watched The Purge:Election Year and that has taken the crown as shitest film I’ve watched in its entirety :-)
Off topic, if he can stay fit I'd take Nkunku, I really liked the look of him before they signed him and he's shown flashes of that there as well. They'd need to take a big loss on him though.
Some of The Room is fun but a lot of it is quite lethally boring. The good stuff is good though ('he's going to jail', 'I fed up with this worrl' etc).
Some of The Room is fun but a lot of it is quite lethally boring. The good stuff is good though ('he's going to jail', 'I fed up with this worrl' etc).
Why don’t you keep your opinions in your pocket?!
Some of The Room is fun but a lot of it is quite lethally boring. The good stuff is good though ('he's going to jail', 'I fed up with this worrl' etc).
Why don’t you keep your opinions in your pocket?!
Oh Lisa, you think of everything.
Some of The Room is fun but a lot of it is quite lethally boring. The good stuff is good though ('he's going to jail', 'I fed up with this worrl' etc).
Battlefield Earth is incredibly bad. Like, incredibly bad. And the fact that the whole movie is a Dutch angle lit neon purple makes you feel sick.
Some of The Room is fun but a lot of it is quite lethally boring. The good stuff is good though ('he's going to jail', 'I fed up with this worrl' etc).
Battlefield Earth is incredibly bad. Like, incredibly bad. And the fact that the whole movie is a Dutch angle lit neon purple makes you feel sick.
Battlefield Earth I think is based on that L Ron Hubbard scientology nonsense book Dianectics.
I've also been reliably informed David Lynch's Eraserhead is truly terrible.
Where does Firefox F7 play and how much will he cost?
Love Actuallly is the worst thing ever
You liking Yesterday is the worst thing I have seen you post. I laughed at myself at how much I hated it, particularly the last 20.
It's a sci-fi about football being played in an alternative reality in which everything is the exact opposite of our own existence. Nicolas Jackson is a top class footballer with lethal goalscoring instincts and he wears his boots on the right feet.I wonder what with Liam Delap supposedly going to Chelsea, will Emery try for Nicolas Jackson again?
What film is this?
Sign some fucking players Villa. I'm bored.
Guy on Twatter (I know) reckons Elanga is coming.
I like "Yesterday". I've never seen "Love Actually" and don't think I ever will.
I'm very sentimental, really. The stroppy arse on here is just a front.
I feel quite lucky not being a film buff as I’ve seen very few of the films mentioned over the last 5 pages. One of my favourite films is the original animated The Jungle Book, beat that Barry Norman.
Edit. Oh and City of God
I like "Yesterday". I've never seen "Love Actually" and don't think I ever will.
Similar, I've never seen 'Love Actually' but 'Yesterday' is acceptable if sentimental fare. Having said that, I didn't like the 'Lennon scene' and it does get a bit cheesy towards the end.
I like "Yesterday". I've never seen "Love Actually" and don't think I ever will.
I like "Yesterday". I've never seen "Love Actually" and don't think I ever will.
About Time is a solid three and a half stars. Bonus points for having a Villa fan in the lead and the best Nick Cave song featuring heavily.
'About Time' was fine for a while, but I started to lose interest about 3/4 of the way through.
El Santo vs. The Vampire Women is pure joy.
There is a film version of Barry Manilow's Copacabana, if anyone fancies it.
The film buffs on here have clearly forgotten about Bula Quo!
One reviewer summed up the movie well...
"Made as a tax write.off. The whole thing is fish 4 days old. It's about as funny as an orphanage fire and Parfitt and Rossi can't act. They are more wooden than all the palm trees on Fiji. I'm assuming the other actors needed the cash so badly that they couldn't sell any more blood or bodily organs."
Right, I only knew the fella from Ghostbusters was in it.
"The fella from Ghostbusters"! Ffs, show some respect! Groundhog Day is one of the finest films of the past 35 years!
Worst film I’ve ever seen is Two Days, Nine Lives starring Luke Goss. Set in a rehab clinic, nine patients talk about their issues for two days, and then right at the end it’s revealed that one of them is the second coming of Christ.
What made it even worse was that after watching it I interviewed Goss for a magazine I worked for and spent half an hour pretending that I didn’t think it was the worst film ever made.
The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
‘Almost’ a shame in the sense of ‘not remotely.’Or, thank fuck.
Right, I only knew the fella from Ghostbusters was in it.
"The fella from Ghostbusters"! Ffs, show some respect! Groundhog Day is one of the finest films of the past 35 years!
It was alright I suppose, if a bit repetitive.
The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
I'd therefore appreciate it if you could start your own thread in Off Topic to discuss SpiceWorld and Citizen Kane, and leave this one for what it's for: annoying people.
Last years film The Fall Guy was one of the worst I’ve ever seen
Emily Blunt was the only thing that kept me watching the whole way through
I agree with this.The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
I'd therefore appreciate it if you could start your own thread in Off Topic to discuss SpiceWorld and Citizen Kane, and leave this one for what it's for: annoying people.
SpiceWorld is better than Citizen Kane.
Last years film The Fall Guy was one of the worst I’ve ever seen
Emily Blunt was the only thing that kept me watching the whole way through
Seconded. Terrible film.
The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
I’d be more than happy if we signed Emily Blunt.
I’d be more than happy if we signed Emily Blunt.
Last years film The Fall Guy was one of the worst I’ve ever seen
Emily Blunt was the only thing that kept me watching the whole way through
More chance of us singing James Blunt.
The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
I'll chuck in <snip> Wolf Of Wall Street then.
The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
I'll chuck in <snip> Wolf Of Wall Street then.
The main takeaway from that for me was how much it made me want to try quaaludes
The trouble with all these films is of course they're shit. I was talking about films, like The Matrix and Shawshank, that have inexplicably good reputations.
I'll chuck in <snip> Wolf Of Wall Street then.
The main takeaway from that for me was how much it made me want to try quaaludes
Same.
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Espanyol keeper Joan García had agreed terms with Barcelona, who plan to trigger his €25m clause.
Arsenal, Aston Villa and Manchester United have all had García on their radar, but Barcelona are now frontrunner
Never wanted him. I'm not crying. It's just, I've got sand in my eyes.
I think Martinez will go to Man U on the basis that's the option that would most piss me off.
The Shining is shit. Nicholson gurning his way through a Kubrick film that's style over substance.
Long live Ryan Reynolds as The Green Lantern!
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.Wouldn’t lose any sleep if he left.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
I think he potentially brings us drive from the base of midfield and no one else does that. I think that’s important to unlocking our attacking potential.I agree Paul, you’re right. He’s very good and very suited to Emery’s way of playing.
totally.I think he potentially brings us drive from the base of midfield and no one else does that. I think that’s important to unlocking our attacking potential.I agree Paul, you’re right. He’s very good and very suited to Emery’s way of playing.
Him and Maatsen were excellent in that period from February onwards.
Onana has been good for us so far, I reckon he’ll have a big season next year
Maybe go back to slagging off Konsa at every opportunity.Onana has been good for us so far, I reckon he’ll have a big season next year
Yep, he's performed just like a 50m star should
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Those 2 goals in his first 3 games giving us two 1 goal victories were a garbage start.
Maybe go back to slagging off Konsa at every opportunity.Onana has been good for us so far, I reckon he’ll have a big season next year
Yep, he's performed just like a 50m star should
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Yes. Get rid. Utter garbage from day one
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Yes. Get rid. Utter garbage from day one
There was me thinking it was Birmingham City🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Yes. Get rid. Utter garbage from day one
Does BC stand for blind cnut?
It’s a tough choice,There was me thinking it was Birmingham City🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Yes. Get rid. Utter garbage from day one
Does BC stand for blind cnut?
And Onana doesn’t after one season?Maybe go back to slagging off Konsa at every opportunity.Onana has been good for us so far, I reckon he’ll have a big season next year
Yep, he's performed just like a 50m star should
Konsa has plenty of credit still left in the bank.
Day one where he scored within 5 minutes? ;D
There are certain people that when they post something and you entirely disagree it’s a nice reinforcement that you’re correct.
7/10. Enjoy some of the cinematography but struggles as a "feel good" film, and could really use some song and dance numbers and the odd dinosaur.
7/10. Enjoy some of the cinematography but struggles as a "feel good" film, and could really use some song and dance numbers and the odd dinosaur.
The odd dinosaur?! I'll give you a dinosaur, mate: a white boy who is prejudiced.
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Yes. Get rid. Utter garbage from day one
🚨 Amadou Onana is an option for Al Hilal.
@SultanALotaibi0
Do it. More a cheerleader than a footballer.
Isn't Schindler's List a brilliant film?
7/10. Enjoy some of the cinematography but struggles as a "feel good" film, and could really use some song and dance numbers and the odd dinosaur.
His best film, in fact one of the best films, is broadly a sequal to an unnecessarily aggressive lorry.
His best film, in fact one of the best films, is broadly a sequal to an unnecessarily aggressive lorry.
Actually yes, was a 'made for TV film' as well that got upgraded it was so good.
His best film, in fact one of the best films, is broadly a sequal to an unnecessarily aggressive lorry.
Actually yes, was a 'made for TV film' as well that got upgraded it was so good.
Which one is that?
Isn't Schindler's List a brilliant film?But these days it's Al-Hilal's list that draws the audience.
Sad thing is that 50m isn't that much these days. We got more than that for a bloke that started 7 league games in 2 years. I'm happy if Onana stays.Another one for Onana staying plus it will not make much difference to our PSR issue unless we get £80/100 M which is unlikely.
His physique and athleticism mean his ceiling is higher than kamara and Tieleman, yet he’s a long way off their level at the moment. Each injury slows his development and prevents him getting into a rhythm where he can boss games.
Selling Onana would be a weird one after just one season. Both for him and the club.
.Selling Onana would be a weird one after just one season. Both for him and the club.
Although Diaby suggests there's pretty solid precedent when there's Saudi money involved.
I don't think it's a coincidence Saudi keep coming in for expensive players who aren't nailed on first XI. Diaby, Duran, probably Bailey, possibly Onana. Swairis' influence perhaps.Good player that Swairis apart from all the biting.
I don't think it's a coincidence Saudi keep coming in for expensive players who aren't nailed on first XI. Diaby, Duran, probably Bailey, possibly Onana. Swairis' influence perhaps.
If the thoughts are we sell Onana for Saudi money, and have Enzo takes his place then I can see the thinking as it then means the Onana money can be used in other areas rather than on a replacement.
I don't think it's a coincidence Saudi keep coming in for expensive players who aren't nailed on first XI. Diaby, Duran, probably Bailey, possibly Onana. Swairis' influence perhaps.
Given it's us and ManU who are under the most FFP pressure, is there a potential Garnacho = Martinez deal to be done?
maybe we need a proven one
Bailey off to Neom in Saudi for 25m which is all well and good until you see which media outlet is reporting it.
I don't think it's a coincidence Saudi keep coming in for expensive players who aren't nailed on first XI. Diaby, Duran, probably Bailey, possibly Onana. Swairis' influence perhaps.
Don’t quite understand the link, because he’s form another Arab country?
For all his injuries are brought up he played 26 league games last season, in his 3 seasons with us Kamara has played 24, 20 and 26.
That's £20m for PSR then. Too inconsistent sadly.
didn't we do something with Kosta Nedeljković?maybe we need a proven one
Why would we have spent £7m on Garcia if the plan was to spend more than that on another player in his position six months later?
Given it's us and ManU who are under the most FFP pressure, is there a potential Garnacho = Martinez deal to be done?You have said something very bad....very very bad.
We really need a winger in, even more so if Bailey is leaving.
We really need a winger in, even more so if Bailey is leaving.
We really need a winger in, even more so if Bailey is leaving.
Not sure, we already have Malen and we're struggling to give him or Bailey minutes towards end of season. Kind of depends if are we going to see our midfield setup tweaked a bit next season.
I wonder if Emi might be a makeweight in some PSR thing with Man Yoo for Rashford, which is why the negotiations might be complex.
We really need a winger in, even more so if Bailey is leaving.
Not sure, we already have Malen and we're struggling to give him or Bailey minutes towards end of season. Kind of depends if are we going to see our midfield setup tweaked a bit next season.
Malen will be more central I suspect and we definitely need pace out wide.
Im ready to be completely shot down, but the idea of Emi Martinez moving to this man u rabble is hilarious. Why would he move there, more money, ok a bit, but not as much as Saudi, more trophies, er no, maybe Atletico…..maybe just stay at Villa
It shows how f’up the whole transfer system is now, that there needs to be two summer transfer windows.
One window purely for the money men to manipulate the financial aspects of the game and one for the managers to bring in the players they actually want.
And if they do make all these signings, it shows even more that many players don't really move in order to play Champions League football; nearly always the wages and the overall deal come first.Im ready to be completely shot down, but the idea of Emi Martinez moving to this man u rabble is hilarious. Why would he move there, more money, ok a bit, but not as much as Saudi, more trophies, er no, maybe Atletico…..maybe just stay at Villa
If they sign Cunha and Mbuemo is it going to transform them to top 6. Probably not. If they get Martinez and maybe Gokyres too which is being mooted, then they would have the firepower and a lot more character in the dressing room. Midfield still looks way short, but they'll be massively better.
Apparently we've pulled out of the deal for Nyapan, which would be disappointing but I guess we're very much up against a wall spending wise.
Apparently we've pulled out of the deal for Nyapan, which would be disappointing but I guess we're very much up against a wall spending wise.
https://www.abola.pt/mercado/noticias/mercado-sporting-geny-catamo-na-lista-de-compras-do-aston-villa-2025060123080219883
All feels a bit gloomy right now doesn’t it?
All feels a bit gloomy right now doesn’t it?
All feels a bit gloomy right now doesn’t it?
Why?
All feels a bit gloomy right now doesn’t it?
Why?
Maybe it will, who knows but let's see where we are at the end of the window. I'm not going to start worrying two days into it opening, especially with a manager of the calibre we have.
Maybe it will, who knows but let's see where we are at the end of the window. I'm not going to start worrying two days into it opening, especially with a manager of the calibre we have.But even you must be able to see that the parameters we will be working in are far, far tighter than they would be if we’d have amassed 1 more point.
All feels a bit gloomy right now doesn’t it?
Why?
It'll be the fear that PSR rules will force us into selling and/or curtail our spending plans to be able to continue growing.
It's not that controversial a standpoint.
Not getting Champions League is a huge blow obviously but I'm pretty sure the club had a plan for either eventuality. It's happend now and we just need to get on with it and see how it pans out. It may not be as bad as we think it will be.I don't think we were ever in the box-seat for Chumps League qualification TBH. Yeah, the debacle at Old Triffid was massively disappointing but I think the Europa League might be a blessing in disguise - even though it means we may not be attracting quite the players we could have done into the squad, this time.
Well it won't. We will know who we have had to sell early by June 30th, but we won't know their replacements until the end of the transfer window.Maybe it will, who knows but let's see where we are at the end of the window. I'm not going to start worrying two days into it opening, especially with a manager of the calibre we have.
That's your shout, others may disagree (and obviously do).
And you won't have to wait until the end of the window, either, it'll be June 30th.
Percy, can you rewrite that so a simple Brummie can understand😂
Percy, can you rewrite that so a simple Brummie can understand😂
I watched the final episode of Lilyhammer last night, I understood everything thanks to Percy. And yes, that includes the Norwegian.
So who's your Italian team Percy, Palermo or Catania?
So who's your Italian team Percy, Palermo or Catania?
Napoli!
Glory Hunter...
Palermo are owned by City Group. So, twats. Capisce?
So who's your Italian team Percy, Palermo or Catania?
Napoli!
Any chance you can sweet talk McTominay into coming back to the UK and become a Villain?
Wow...thank you.Percy, can you rewrite that so a simple Brummie can understand😂
A stutter-step is a mafia hit technique where you walk alongside someone, seemingly with no ill intent, then take a step back to get behind them, facilitating shooting them in the back of the head, or maybe garrotting them.
Zips are Italians/Sicillians who are actually from those places, (like Mr Calvo for instance) as opposed to Italian-Americans.
Mr Calvo would be in the administration, like a consigliere (counsellor), third in command of a mafia family. A capodecine is in charge of ten soldiers in a mafia family, like a captain in a football team.
Sampdoria have been handed a lifeline after being relegated to Serie C for the first time. Brescia have been docked points so may go down in their place. Samp would still need to negotiate a play-off to avoid relegation. Sad times, best Serie A shirt ever and of course their late 80s/early 90s side were absolute ballers.
Sampdoria have been handed a lifeline after being relegated to Serie C for the first time. Brescia have been docked points so may go down in their place. Samp would still need to negotiate a play-off to avoid relegation. Sad times, best Serie A shirt ever and of course their late 80s/early 90s side were absolute ballers.Loved that team, Gianluca Vialli is one of my all time favourite players
Crotone are from Calabria as well - lower leagues now, but played in Serie A within the last decade.
Sampdoria have been handed a lifeline after being relegated to Serie C for the first time. Brescia have been docked points so may go down in their place. Samp would still need to negotiate a play-off to avoid relegation. Sad times, best Serie A shirt ever and of course their late 80s/early 90s side were absolute ballers.
Some contenders for best shirt in that era, as well as Samp my other favourites were Parma and Fiorentina. Come to think of it most of the top clubs shirts were great. Maybe it’s the rose tinted glasses of Football Italia on Ch4.
If we want to link films with transfer speculation I hope we sign Sean Bean from Sheffield United he was terrific on his debut.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
Crotone are from Calabria as well - lower leagues now, but played in Serie A within the last decade.
Cosenza and Catanzaro decent sized clubs from there too.
If we are talking Calabria Mafia, they're the 'Ndrangheta.
It’s not specifically that. It’s that the last match was such a massive downer, it’s like getting dumped, or losing your job, or waking up in a world where Micah Richards exists… it taints everything.Hard to think of a worse way to end the season, the injustice of the non goal and the humiliating shit show of a performance , there of all places. The fact it happened so soon after the Wembley debacle.
So right now, we need two positives.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
Revenue. They might be heavily in debt but they have enormous revenue.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
But didn’t big Jim say they were close to breaching PSR?He said they were close to bankruptcy which was a total load of bollox.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
It's only been 9 days since the Man Utd game.
I saw something last night suggesting Bailey off to Saudi for £25m by the end of the week. If that were to happen, the hole, it will be filleth.
It's only been 9 days since the Man Utd game.
Yeah, I'm not sure what anyone was expecting to have happened by now that hasn't.
There have been plenty of questions asked about United’s financial situation as they remain more than £1billion in debt despite announcing plans to build a new 100,000-seater stadium.
Old Trafford chiefs sent a letter to fan groups in January warning them the club are at risk of breaking the profit and sustainability rules (PSR), with top-flight sides only permitted to make £105million of losses over a rolling three-year period.
United posted a club-record revenue of £661.8million in 2023-24, but they recorded a net loss of £113.2million.
Even Monchi deserves a 10 day summer holiday.
Even Monchi deserves a 10 day summer holiday.
I would say going on holiday when the 1st window opens is not a great idea....this is when he does his stuff. He can have a holiday in Barmouth once the window closes.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
Revenue. They might be heavily in debt but they have enormous revenue.
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
Revenue. They might be heavily in debt but they have enormous revenue.
And there, in a nutshell, you have the absurdity that is PSR. A well run, well funded club with ambitious owners who are looking to develop it further are forced to sell their best assets, probably at knock down prices, to meet an arbitrary date while clubs with massive debt are allowed to carry on adding to that debt.
Aren't we unlikely to buy anyone before the end if this financial year on 30 June?
Correct me if I’m wrong but, I thought Manure were heavily in debt so, how come they’ve already splashed the cash on Cunha and Mbuemo? I take it PSR doesn’t apply to them!!
Revenue. They might be heavily in debt but they have enormous revenue.
Almost £400m more than us. It's not that element that annoys me as much as there being no mechanism to allow genuinely ambitious owners to find a way to catch up.
The direction of travel is entirely different. We've been spending at Champions League levels and haven't qualified for the Champions League. There's a lot more speculation suggesting we have problems than there was this time last year.
The direction of travel is entirely different. We've been spending at Champions League levels and haven't qualified for the Champions League. There's a lot more speculation suggesting we have problems than there was this time last year.
I agree. My hope might be misplaced, but it seems to me that we weren't in financial trouble at the start of this season, and since then we've sold Duran & Philogene, and bought Malen & Garcia for [much] less. I think we sold Diaby too after 30th June, so that's in this seasons accounts too.The direction of travel is entirely different. We've been spending at Champions League levels and haven't qualified for the Champions League. There's a lot more speculation suggesting we have problems than there was this time last year.
Speculation from who? On here? I know that is what the forum is for, but the levels of panic seem a bit over the top to me.
The direction of travel is entirely different. We've been spending at Champions League levels and haven't qualified for the Champions League. There's a lot more speculation suggesting we have problems than there was this time last year.I don't buy into this kind of doom and gloom. We have a backroom team of people that have proven to be fantastic at playing the transfer market roulette. It's widely accepted that we done the best business in the January transfer window and we can do it again. I think I'm right in saying that the effects of not qualifying won't impact on our spending the current window as it's on a rolling two year calculation? Of course it will be harder to attract top players because we're in the Europa league and not the CL but that's where Monchi and Co come into their own and earn there corn.
Disasi won't play very often as he can't be trusted at centre back.
Disasi won't play very often as he can't be trusted at centre back. He was brilliant at Brentford but very ordinary elsewhere.
The "Man City debacle" where he played for less than half an hour, in the wrong position?
The "Man City debacle" where he played for less than half an hour, in the wrong position?He looks fine at CB, I do not understand why he wasn’t used there more and Konsa at RB.
I think Disasi was fine at centre back, but would I pay how much they’d likely ask? Probably not.
And Chelsea fans told us he was crap at rightback but good at centre half, but we then seemed to only play him at right back, apart from the one time we went three at the back instead.The "Man City debacle" where he played for less than half an hour, in the wrong position?
It’s irrelevant how long he played. In fact it actually makes it worse he played less as he should have been fresher. Done far too easily by Doku, doing exactly what a pacy winger would have wanted facing up to him. It was schoolboy stuff. He’d played right back a number of times before, both at Chelsea and Villa. Facing a left winger on the right sided part of defence in no way should have been a stretch unless our standards have massively dropped. Was it any surprise that that was what, his last appearance for us?
He was ok - but seems high fee and high wages for a backup CB who can only play CB. Also - not convinced he is cheaper or better than Diego Carlos
Not sure - seemed pretty similar - Carlos put in some excellent and important performances. Lots of awful ones too - but dont think we saw the same highs (or lows)He was ok - but seems high fee and high wages for a backup CB who can only play CB. Also - not convinced he is cheaper or better than Diego Carlos
He’s much better than him. That doesn’t make him good though.
How did our Diego end the season in Turkey? With aplomb, I hope.I think he was out for most of the rest of season with an injury.
He was ok - but seems high fee and high wages for a backup CB who can only play CB. Also - not convinced he is cheaper or better than Diego Carlos
Christ - how much we're we paying Diego? That Gerrad rain was costly - we signed some serious big earners who were never going to play a significant role for us.He was ok - but seems high fee and high wages for a backup CB who can only play CB. Also - not convinced he is cheaper or better than Diego Carlos
His annual salary at Chelsea is apparently around 40% of what we were paying Diego Carlos. Half what we're paying Cash. About 80% of what we were paying Robin Olsen.
I'm guessing were he to move he'd probably want more. And with good reason.
I think Disasi was fine at centre back, but would I pay how much they’d likely ask? Probably not.
He's still out on loan until the end of June and then contracted to us until next summer. Strong rumours today that we are negotiating ending his contract early.
He's still out on loan until the end of June and then contracted to us until next summer. Strong rumours today that we are negotiating ending his contract early.
As I speculated a couple of months ago, this year of unusually high revenue would be a good time to pay off Couts to help us lower the wage bill in the slightly lower revenue year to come.
The "Man City debacle" where he played for less than half an hour, in the wrong position?He looks fine at CB, I do not understand why he wasn’t used there more and Konsa at RB.
When Konsa plays at RB we are never exposed in the way that we often are with Cash, Cash is slightly better offensively but a couple of decent crosses a season is not enough to make up for the many games when he is a liability.The "Man City debacle" where he played for less than half an hour, in the wrong position?He looks fine at CB, I do not understand why he wasn’t used there more and Konsa at RB.
Konsa was increasingly rubbish at RB too? Ipswich away, only Maatsen at OT surpassed that car crash of a performance.
Reports from Chelsea suggested Disasi was decent at CB but horrid at RB. Not sure why Emery kept trying him there. Disasi had a nightmare at Palace at CB but that was in a complete mess of a setup so easily forgiven. Forest at home, he wasn't great at CB either but moving him to RB at half time might be a more of a worrying omen for Garcia. Emery decided pretty quickly that KN wasn't up to it and reports have us linked to yet another RB this summer.
We have been linked with Joe Gomes before, bit of a utility man but can cover a lot of positions.
And something of a damp squib.Christ - how much were we paying Diego?That Gerrad rain was costly - we signed some serious big earners who were never going to play a significant role for us.He was ok - but seems high fee and high wages for a backup CB who can only play CB. Also - not convinced he is cheaper or better than Diego Carlos
His annual salary at Chelsea is apparently around 40% of what we were paying Diego Carlos. Half what we're paying Cash. About 80% of what we were paying Robin Olsen.
I'm guessing were he to move he'd probably want more. And with good reason.
When Konsa plays at RB we are never exposed in the way that we often are with Cash, Cash is slightly better offensively but a couple of decent crosses a season is not enough to make up for the many games when he is a liability.The "Man City debacle" where he played for less than half an hour, in the wrong position?He looks fine at CB, I do not understand why he wasn’t used there more and Konsa at RB.
Konsa was increasingly rubbish at RB too? Ipswich away, only Maatsen at OT surpassed that car crash of a performance.
Reports from Chelsea suggested Disasi was decent at CB but horrid at RB. Not sure why Emery kept trying him there. Disasi had a nightmare at Palace at CB but that was in a complete mess of a setup so easily forgiven. Forest at home, he wasn't great at CB either but moving him to RB at half time might be a more of a worrying omen for Garcia. Emery decided pretty quickly that KN wasn't up to it and reports have us linked to yet another RB this summer.
We have been linked with Joe Gomes before, bit of a utility man but can cover a lot of positions.
If you want solid at RB play Konsa there. We really could have done with solid at RB against Palace Manure Citeh the list goes on.
No idea what Garcia has done to be discarded.
that's a pretty good summary of our season from a RB perspective.
Konsa makes Matty Cash seem like a better version of Hakimi in possession in comparison. Konsa is where the ball goes to die when he played there, same as Disasi really. They narrow our shape completely making it easy to press us, they both also hate getting drawn out to a winger. To be fair to Cash he's quicker and frankly braver pushing out in that situation. I think Cash is a decent defender these days, credit to Emery as he was very average/rash, on the ball is his biggest issue. His trademark chop, partly tactical partly due to an iffy first touch. Something I noticed Garcia was a lot sharper on.
We had Konsa at RB v Ipswich, the Spurs collapse, Liverpool away he was shocking. For all the talk about how strong he was there in CL, I distinctly remember horror shows away at Brugge and RBL. Solid as a soft sh*te. There's a reason why Emery put a halt to it. Replacing it with Disasi wasn't one of his better decisions.
Konsa is pretty limited at CB too really. He has strong positional sense and good recovery pace. But he's frankly a bit soft, average on the ball and his form only improved when Mings was back to babysit him. I wouldn't be against moving him on this summer for a big offer.
No stats though.that's a pretty good summary of our season from a RB perspective.
Konsa makes Matty Cash seem like a better version of Hakimi in possession in comparison. Konsa is where the ball goes to die when he played there, same as Disasi really. They narrow our shape completely making it easy to press us, they both also hate getting drawn out to a winger. To be fair to Cash he's quicker and frankly braver pushing out in that situation. I think Cash is a decent defender these days, credit to Emery as he was very average/rash, on the ball is his biggest issue. His trademark chop, partly tactical partly due to an iffy first touch. Something I noticed Garcia was a lot sharper on.
We had Konsa at RB v Ipswich, the Spurs collapse, Liverpool away he was shocking. For all the talk about how strong he was there in CL, I distinctly remember horror shows away at Brugge and RBL. Solid as a soft sh*te. There's a reason why Emery put a halt to it. Replacing it with Disasi wasn't one of his better decisions.
Konsa is pretty limited at CB too really. He has strong positional sense and good recovery pace. But he's frankly a bit soft, average on the ball and his form only improved when Mings was back to babysit him. I wouldn't be against moving him on this summer for a big offer.
All about opinions, mate ... ;D ;D ;DNo stats though.that's a pretty good summary of our season from a RB perspective.
Konsa makes Matty Cash seem like a better version of Hakimi in possession in comparison. Konsa is where the ball goes to die when he played there, same as Disasi really. They narrow our shape completely making it easy to press us, they both also hate getting drawn out to a winger. To be fair to Cash he's quicker and frankly braver pushing out in that situation. I think Cash is a decent defender these days, credit to Emery as he was very average/rash, on the ball is his biggest issue. His trademark chop, partly tactical partly due to an iffy first touch. Something I noticed Garcia was a lot sharper on.
We had Konsa at RB v Ipswich, the Spurs collapse, Liverpool away he was shocking. For all the talk about how strong he was there in CL, I distinctly remember horror shows away at Brugge and RBL. Solid as a soft sh*te. There's a reason why Emery put a halt to it. Replacing it with Disasi wasn't one of his better decisions.
Konsa is pretty limited at CB too really. He has strong positional sense and good recovery pace. But he's frankly a bit soft, average on the ball and his form only improved when Mings was back to babysit him. I wouldn't be against moving him on this summer for a big offer.
The only bit ...
Can I just say that the usage of 'cash in' that seems to be used every time there's discussion about the potential for a player being sold seems a bit weird.
Some people even enjoy a Cashew.
I dunno, I cleared out my cache.
I dunno, I cleared out my cache.
I met him in Bognor when team were having a little break in Dubai a few weeks ago, so he's been to a mega jaunt already.Nonsense.Even Monchi deserves a 10 day summer holiday.
I would say going on holiday when the 1st window opens is not a great idea....this is when he does his stuff. He can have a holiday in Barmouth once the window closes.
He's clearly more of a "caravan in Dawlish" man.
It seems to me that it has been made clear from reliable sources that PSR is not the same issue as last year but SCR is.
Even Monchi deserves a 10 day summer holiday.
I would say going on holiday when the 1st window opens is not a great idea....this is when he does his stuff. He can have a holiday in Barmouth once the window closes.
Nonsense.
He's clearly more of a "caravan in Dawlish" man.
Moreno was fantastic until he got injured. Digne really stepped up a level in his absence and Moreno never seemed to get back to where he started for us. If that version of Moreno is still there then maybe Digne could be sacrificed, but I wouldn't want to bet on it.
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Sancho any better than Bailey?
Sancho ?
I really thought we were long done with signing basket case players.
Thought that Martin was Barca's best player other than Yamal, in the Champion's League Semi-Finals.
Sancho meant to be trouble, even back in his Dortmund days, couldn't be bothered to turn up to training.
Conceciao was at Jive, on loan from Porto or Sporting
If Sancho wouldn’t take a pay cut to go to Chelsea I can’t see him coming here.
Has emery ever been bought a player who he didn’t improve? Or one who turned into a right twat attitude wise?
Has emery ever been bought a player who he didn’t improve? Or one who turned into a right twat attitude wise?
yes. Jaden Philogene bidace. One of the worst players ever to wear the shirt.
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
A bit harsh on Andy ComynBalaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
The thing with Sancho is he's the outlier in the list of Man U players who have moved away from the club recently. Most of the rest of them have excelled, or at the very least knuckled down and got on with things at whatever level they're at. He's had several moves away and he's still not getting a permanent move.
That's the kind of thing that makes you wonder if it's the player rather than the environment.
A bit harsh on Andy ComynBalaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
When someone would rather pay 5 million not to have you 🤔😃
When someone would rather pay 5 million not to have you 🤔😃
Paying £5m to avoid having to spend £25m is slightly more accurate.
United seem to have given up bringing in players from abroad and just going down the tried and tested route.
Conceciao was at Jive, on loan from Porto or Sporting
Oh yeah, he could move, daddio.
If Sancho wouldn’t take a pay cut to go to Chelsea I can’t see him coming here.
Probably haggling for a pay out from Man United. Those signings OGS brought in that summer for Man United were all absolute disasters, Varane and CR7 were finished and Sancho signed to play RW but wanted to play on left! Those three were meant to deliver them the PL title.
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
Wonder what JJ would think if we signed him.
Manure pursued him for 2 years if I recall.
Conceciao was at Jive, on loan from Porto or Sporting
Oh yeah, he could move, daddio.
I dig him. €30m release clause apparently (Juve paid between €7-10m to loan him for the season). He definitely looked good against us, but wasn't exactly prolific last season. 5 goals and 4 assists in 37 appearances. If the team here thought they could get a tune out of him, then great, but don't see him being a priority, unfortunately.
£200m?! What's the current world-record fee? I'd settle for £127m but not a penny less.
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
I saw Michael Boulding play for us (in the Intertoto cup, admittedly), so I've definitely seen worse. But in terms of money spent, not sure there is much worse than Balaban? Big money (for the time) and a big wage (for the time), for practically zero return.
In other news, I've added Mikel Arteta to my list of twats.
I've played football on Andy Comyns team, nice fella. Think he's an Accountant or Financial Advisor now
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
I saw Michael Boulding play for us (in the Intertoto cup, admittedly), so I've definitely seen worse. But in terms of money spent, not sure there is much worse than Balaban? Big money (for the time) and a big wage (for the time), for practically zero return.
Comyn is a bit unfair too. He was a youth player brought in from a non-league side, who played a dozen or so games and was sold onto Derby. I remember him playing very well against Inter Millan at Villa Park. My Dad taught him physics at university, so not your average footballer.
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Conceciao was at Jive, on loan from Porto or Sporting
Oh yeah, he could move, daddio.
I dig him. €30m release clause apparently (Juve paid between €7-10m to loan him for the season). He definitely looked good against us, but wasn't exactly prolific last season. 5 goals and 4 assists in 37 appearances. If the team here thought they could get a tune out of him, then great, but don't see him being a priority, unfortunately.
There was a player who we had on trial under Sir Graham from Grimsby Boulding ? he was pretty out of his depth
Jeam Makoun III was too, and that Bjorn EngelsBalaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
I saw Michael Boulding play for us (in the Intertoto cup, admittedly), so I've definitely seen worse. But in terms of money spent, not sure there is much worse than Balaban? Big money (for the time) and a big wage (for the time), for practically zero return.
Comyn is a bit unfair too. He was a youth player brought in from a non-league side, who played a dozen or so games and was sold onto Derby. I remember him playing very well against Inter Millan at Villa Park. My Dad taught him physics at university, so not your average footballer.
https://rachaelv.podbean.com/e/from-football-to-finance-the-cfo-who-proves-numbers-are-a-team-sport/
Djemba Djemba was one of the worst signings.
There was a player who we had on trial under Sir Graham from Grimsby Boulding ? he was pretty out of his depth
You should have seen his backhand though.
oh yes he was good at tennis as well wasnt he , bloody all rounders !!
Yeah Engels was fine, just resembled an actual tree. But you can bounce a ball far off a tree, and he did that just about often enough.
I'm pretty sure Helenius never did anything other than getting lovingly pantsed.
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
I saw Michael Boulding play for us (in the Intertoto cup, admittedly), so I've definitely seen worse. But in terms of money spent, not sure there is much worse than Balaban? Big money (for the time) and a big wage (for the time), for practically zero return.
There was a player who we had on trial under Sir Graham from Grimsby Boulding ? he was pretty out of his depth
You should have seen his backhand though.
oh yes he was good at tennis as well wasnt he , bloody all rounders !!
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
I saw Michael Boulding play for us (in the Intertoto cup, admittedly), so I've definitely seen worse. But in terms of money spent, not sure there is much worse than Balaban? Big money (for the time) and a big wage (for the time), for practically zero return.
This has probably been asked before but did anybody here see Balaban live for us? He played for Croatia and was it Brugge in CL afterwards so he can't have been a complete dud of a player.
Then again that Croatian keeper we bought under Smith, and had tracked for years apparently, was impossibly bad.
Philogene doesn't belong in that camp but it's fair to say he looked miles out of his depth for us.
Yeah Engels was fine, just resembled an actual tree. But you can bounce a ball far off a tree, and he did that just about often enough.
I'm pretty sure Helenius never did anything other than getting lovingly pantsed.
And suffering from fairly severe depression if I remember right.
Remember that Portuguese keeper we had - on loan I think - under Bruce? He was, shall we say, not optimal.
Yeah Engels was fine, just resembled an actual tree. But you can bounce a ball far off a tree, and he did that just about often enough.Engel and that Son winner….grrrr
I'm pretty sure Helenius never did anything other than getting lovingly pantsed.
I remember thinking that Helenius would become a star when he signed.Not specifically when he signed, but I thought he looked decent when he came on in the one league match and I think came close to scoring which I have always imagined was his sliding doors moment.
I remember thinking that Helenius would become a star when he signed.Not specifically when he signed, but I thought he looked decent when he came on in the one league match and I think came close to scoring which I have always imagined was his sliding doors moment.
I remember thinking that Helenius would become a star when he signed.Not specifically when he signed, but I thought he looked decent when he came on in the one league match and I think came close to scoring which I have always imagined was his sliding doors moment.
He probably would have done had he not had his pants dragged round his ankles.
He went through some pretty dark times after going back to Denmark I think.
Balaban pound for pound has to be the worst.
Yep, you could names dozens that were worse. Crespo, Luna, Malcolm Allen, Comyn, Jota are some more.
I saw Michael Boulding play for us (in the Intertoto cup, admittedly), so I've definitely seen worse. But in terms of money spent, not sure there is much worse than Balaban? Big money (for the time) and a big wage (for the time), for practically zero return.
This has probably been asked before but did anybody here see Balaban live for us? He played for Croatia and was it Brugge in CL afterwards so he can't have been a complete dud of a player.
Then again that Croatian keeper we bought under Smith, and had tracked for years apparently, was impossibly bad.
Philogene doesn't belong in that camp but it's fair to say he looked miles out of his depth for us.
Kalinic? There are chairs screwed to the floor in prison visiting rooms with more spring in their legs.
Has nobody mentioned the utter cack that was S Ireland. He looked like Maradona in a warm-up and then disappeared from view
I dunno, I remember the 3-1 away at Chelsea, which I enjoyed immensely.
I dunno, I remember the 3-1 away at Chelsea, which I enjoyed immensely.
The eejit got player of the season based on that one performance.
I remember thinking that Helenius would become a star when he signed.Not specifically when he signed, but I thought he looked decent when he came on in the one league match and I think came close to scoring which I have always imagined was his sliding doors moment.
He probably would have done had he not had his pants dragged round his ankles.
Think that was later on in the season. This was one of his early debuts, might have been league or league cup.
Ref sees a player being held back and his shorts pulled off. Opposition is Spurs. No penalty.
I dunno, I remember the 3-1 away at Chelsea, which I enjoyed immensely.
The eejit got player of the season based on that one performance.
I do think the main ire should aimed at those that had the ability but not the attitude. Taking Bowery for example, who can blame him for joining us when we bid for him. That he wasn't good enough for the top flight isn't his fault.
Hence why I used Charles N'Zogbia as my own example - he had bags of ability, but basically retired after we signed him. Ireland would be next on my list. That period (post MON to Dean Smith) was so, utterly shit in nearly every way wasn't it.With you 100% with those two feckers!
Didn't Ireland later admit that he simply didn't like the career of a footballer and wouldn't have done it if he had his time over? Same with David Bentley at Tottenham. Talented players who didn't make the most of their talents because they didn't enjoy the lifestyle.
Didn't Ireland later admit that he simply didn't like the career of a footballer and wouldn't have done it if he had his time over? Same with David Bentley at Tottenham. Talented players who didn't make the most of their talents because they didn't enjoy the lifestyle.
I think they loved the lifestyle it gave them, it was the work that they weren't keen on!
I wouldn't be including academy/youth players as our worst ever players - they're just kids who didn't make it with us.
Our worst players are the ones who cost us a lot of money and didn't live up to it or were actively harmful to us - Micah Richards, Joleon Lescott, Tony Cascarino,Ross McCormack, nearly every signing in that post-MON pre-Bruce era.
🚨 Aston Villa like Juventus centre-back Federico Gatti.
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🚨 Aston Villa like Juventus centre-back Federico Gatti.
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I wonder if this still be part of the latest mutually PSR convenient shuffling of players with Juventus.
Which is in no way connected to Nas being on the board of the Agnelli family trust. Oh no.
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I wonder if this still be part of the latest mutually PSR convenient shuffling of players with Juventus.
Which is in no way connected to Nas being on the board of the Agnelli family trust. Oh no.
Pure coincidence
I do think the main ire should aimed at those that had the ability but not the attitude. Taking Bowery for example, who can blame him for joining us when we bid for him. That he wasn't good enough for the top flight isn't his fault.
Absolutely. Generally, fans will get behind a player who gives everything but has limited ability.
Times reporting Arsenal want Rogers. It’s behind a paywall so I can’t read beyond the headline.
Times reporting Arsenal want Rogers. It’s behind a paywall so I can’t read beyond the headline.
Times reporting Arsenal want Rogers. It’s behind a paywall so I can’t read beyond the headline.
Here you go Rigadon
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Kamara for me.
Hence why I used Charles N'Zogbia as my own example - he had bags of ability, but basically retired after we signed him. Ireland would be next on my list. That period (post MON to Dean Smith) was so, utterly shit in nearly every way wasn't it.Agreed. N'Zogbia has always been the one who pissed me off the most. Closely followed by Ireland.
and clearly there's no excuse for spelling your name like that.
Kamara, Rogers, Konsa for me.I'd add Tielemans to that as the only 'non-negotiables'
I'd want over £100m for them.
Kamara, Rogers, Konsa for me.And none of the shenanigans we were forced into with the Luiz deal which still rankles with me however good Barrenechea might become.
I'd want over £100m for them.
For some reason Mark Kinsella always stands out in my memory. It wasn't so much that he was bad, more that he was completely invisible in central midfield. I think he started in the debacle in the temple of doom and had an absolute nightmare.
I also think amid the McCormack disaster, Henri Lansbury gets an easy ride. He's another one that I heard really didn't give a shit.
For some reason Mark Kinsella always stands out in my memory. It wasn't so much that he was bad, more that he was completely invisible in central midfield. I think he started in the debacle in the temple of doom and had an absolute nightmare.
For some reason Mark Kinsella always stands out in my memory. It wasn't so much that he was bad, more that he was completely invisible in central midfield. I think he started in the debacle in the temple of doom and had an absolute nightmare.
Yeah, he made Ashley Westwood look like Dennis Mortimer.
For some reason Mark Kinsella always stands out in my memory. It wasn't so much that he was bad, more that he was completely invisible in central midfield. I think he started in the debacle in the temple of doom and had an absolute nightmare.
Yeah, he made Ashley Westwood look like Dennis Mortimer.
Kinsella was a plan that went wrong. He was meant to be paired with matt holland, but holland turned us down last minute
Recruiting young talent is all well and good but we don't want to become a club with a reputation for ending careers. Man City and Chelsea used to sign all the bright young things and ruin their development. Sending them out on loan is better than keeping them here and never playing them, I suppose. Feels like a fine line though
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#avfc have a strong interest in Stoke City’s teenage midfielder Sol Sidibe. England under-18 international firmly on Villa’s radar and regarded as a huge talent for the future. Other clubs have also inquired but Villa keen to continue recruiting outstanding young talent
Sidibé's son Sol was born in 2007 and signed a professional contract with Stoke in July 2023.
Recruiting young talent is all well and good but we don't want to become a club with a reputation for ending careers. Man City and Chelsea used to sign all the bright young things and ruin their development. Sending them out on loan is better than keeping them here and never playing them, I suppose. Feels like a fine line though
Recruiting young talent is all well and good but we don't want to become a club with a reputation for ending careers. Man City and Chelsea used to sign all the bright young things and ruin their development. Sending them out on loan is better than keeping them here and never playing them, I suppose. Feels like a fine line though
Yes.QuoteSidibé's son Sol was born in 2007 and signed a professional contract with Stoke in July 2023.
Recruiting young talent is all well and good but we don't want to become a club with a reputation for ending careers. Man City and Chelsea used to sign all the bright young things and ruin their development. Sending them out on loan is better than keeping them here and never playing them, I suppose. Feels like a fine line though
I don’t recognise this at all. Villa have a great record of being a springboard for talent.
Has anyone read the article in The Athletic regarding how clubs finances are held by certain clubs? Apparently some clubs have more than one set of finance figures and they somehow use this to get good figures against what the PL or the other set of figures are. I couldn’t understand this so if someone can explain in simple terms it would be very helpful. If someone can explain clubs are doing it, why aren’t the Villa?"why aren’t the Villa?" - we don't know that they are not.
Recruiting young talent is all well and good but we don't want to become a club with a reputation for ending careers. Man City and Chelsea used to sign all the bright young things and ruin their development. Sending them out on loan is better than keeping them here and never playing them, I suppose. Feels like a fine line though
https://x.com/DeadlineDayLive/status/1931293305397993511?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Left back is a pivotal position in an Emery team.
Looks like Arsenal are going to pay the £5 million release clause for Kepa arrivabalata. Surely we should have been in at that kind of money?
Just checked with Mrs Beard - we moved last summer - and I was worried it wasnt sorted.
Apparently we have one - but the Enforcement officer arrived at the door - claiming we didnt have one - but she told them they did and a quick phone call confirmed we were right.
Not a great story - but we need to change the poll to multi-choice as I have a TV licence and also have an enforcement visit
Certainly by the lack of activity or urgency as there was last summer to get players moved quickly it might be that our PSR issues aren’t as desperate as we think or some parts of the media are making it out to be.
Just checked with Mrs Beard - we moved last summer - and I was worried it wasnt sorted.
Apparently we have one - but the Enforcement officer arrived at the door - claiming we didnt have one - but she told them they did and a quick phone call confirmed we were right.
Certainly by the lack of activity or urgency as there was last summer to get players moved quickly it might be that our PSR issues aren’t as desperate as we think or some parts of the media are making it out to be.
I don't think they're desperate (next summer might well be different), but our panicky PSR stuff with Everton was on June 22nd last year. The Juventus stuff was June 30th.
There's no reason to think it's not fine, but things not happening now isn't evidence of that.
Certainly by the lack of activity or urgency as there was last summer to get players moved quickly it might be that our PSR issues aren’t as desperate as we think or some parts of the media are making it out to be.
I don't think they're desperate (next summer might well be different), but our panicky PSR stuff with Everton was on June 22nd last year. The Juventus stuff was June 30th.
There's no reason to think it's not fine, but things not happening now isn't evidence of that.
It felt there was a lot more chatter though before those deals happened. That we needed to do a lot and seemed a lot more active trying to get deals done. The mind might be playing tricks as well as my memory but it “feels” a little calmer. Even with the absence of CL football.
Certainly by the lack of activity or urgency as there was last summer to get players moved quickly it might be that our PSR issues aren’t as desperate as we think or some parts of the media are making it out to be.
I don't think they're desperate (next summer might well be different), but our panicky PSR stuff with Everton was on June 22nd last year. The Juventus stuff was June 30th.
There's no reason to think it's not fine, but things not happening now isn't evidence of that.
Certainly by the lack of activity or urgency as there was last summer to get players moved quickly it might be that our PSR issues aren’t as desperate as we think or some parts of the media are making it out to be.
I don't think they're desperate (next summer might well be different), but our panicky PSR stuff with Everton was on June 22nd last year. The Juventus stuff was June 30th.
There's no reason to think it's not fine, but things not happening now isn't evidence of that.
The finance bloke I like (Dave Powell) said we should be under less pressure next year as a £119m loss drops out of our three-year cycle.
Certainly by the lack of activity or urgency as there was last summer to get players moved quickly it might be that our PSR issues aren’t as desperate as we think or some parts of the media are making it out to be.
I don't think they're desperate (next summer might well be different), but our panicky PSR stuff with Everton was on June 22nd last year. The Juventus stuff was June 30th.
There's no reason to think it's not fine, but things not happening now isn't evidence of that.
The finance bloke I like (Dave Powell) said we should be under less pressure next year as a £119m loss drops out of our three-year cycle.
Yes, but that’s not PSR. With all the inflation of revenues they’ve been pushing, if we’ve allowed our wages to swallow all that up then that’s just incompetence.
I would say incompetence is exactly the word if we are currently being fined for breaching a rule, and then increase our revenue to get out of it, but then allow the wages to increase to cause another breach.
You can say that it’s a risk taken in the hope of Champions League, but if we think we are in a position where getting it is more likely than not and setting budgets in anticipation of it, again that’s incompetence.
And I do not believe that’s what we have done for one moment.
Sousa? On loan somewhere like Plymouth and not ripping up any trees i think
Pino would be perfect for us. Unai should know how to get him.
If we assume a loss of around £60m from dropping into the Europa (which seems fair) that means our target wage bill for next season is to get under £210m. Getting to that from where we are is probably doable without losing anyone we want to keep but, as I've said elsewhere, if we want to make signings on top we will probably need to go a bit 1in 1out on them. If we can use some of the lower wage players (like Garcia, Iling-Jr and Barrenechea) as squad filler options to add some depth and we let more expensive players go (like Digne) then that money can go towards filling the bigger gaps, like right wing.
I'm pretty sure we won't be buying first-team players from Chesterfield and Crewe this time.
Those players, given the collective careers they had were so very wasted with us. I’d love to have seen what Emery could have done with them as a coach and via the environment we now have at the club. They came into to such a toxic environment led by chief ******; Gabby and Micah Richards.
Those players, given the collective careers they had were so very wasted with us. I’d love to have seen what Emery could have done with them as a coach and via the environment we now have at the club. They came into to such a toxic environment led by chief ******; Gabby and Micah Richards.
They were all good players. Just a shame they can't into a framework of a side that was utterly broken. Not sure Richards was the huge problem people make out, indeed Smith and Bruce praised him for his work with the kids etc, but Lescott, Gabby etc we're miles off what we needed as senior pros and the defence in general was just apocalyptic.
Richards shit on the pitch.
I think we're in a bit of transition though. Mings, McGinn, Watkins, Martinez, Digne are all 30 plus or will be during next season. 3-4 younger players to supplement the squad would be about right this summer to integrate and replace a couple of them next summer. Maatsen is clearly that plan 12 months be earlier at left back.The only immediate problem we have to resolve amongst our elder statesmen is Emi.
I'm pretty sure we won't be buying first-team players from Chesterfield and Crewe this time.
We're in a massively different place. I would argue if Emery bought the equivalents of Vertout, Amavi, Ayew, Traore and Guye in this summer, they would fare rather better with the core group already in place and the manager being so clear with his ideas.
Westwood did perfectly fine for where we were at the time.
But we're still not going to be buying the 2025 version.
Richards was shit on the pitch. He may have had good bantz (sick emoji) with the kids but that's because that's all he is himself.
I think Richards was always capable of a fuck up but his pace generally made up for it. Unfortunately, we signed him when he'd had loads of injuries and his pace had largely gone.
A year on the bench at Forest presumably hasn't done much for his core asset, speed.
A year on the bench at Forest presumably hasn't done much for his core asset, speed.
Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m.
Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m.
When you look at other fees, that would be very low. £40-45 minimum is his value surely?
Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m.
When you look at other fees, that would be very low. £40-45 minimum is his value surely?
Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m.
When you look at other fees, that would be very low. £40-45 minimum is his value surely?
The price we’ll likely pay for needing the money by the end of the month.
Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m.
When you look at other fees, that would be very low. £40-45 minimum is his value surely?
So today is deadline day for the first window, thanks to this glorified FIFA pre-season friendly tournament. Do we have to sell someone today to meet our June PSR obligation? Or does the second window open up in time?
Yes, but when every other club knows we have to make a sale before 30th June, it puts us in a position where we have to sell a player for significantly less than their true value. Like we did last year with Dougie.Of course, I understand that other clubs will be leveraging our situation at this time, but do we have the same profitability issues this year? - I thought the main challenge would be satisfying the Euro-comps wages ratio.
So today is deadline day for the first window, thanks to this glorified FIFA pre-season friendly tournament. Do we have to sell someone today to meet our June PSR obligation? Or does the second window open up in time?
Isn't today just the deadline for players to be registered in time for the silly US thing?
There's nothing stopping us from selling someone tomorrow, it's just that if they go to a team in that tournament then they can't use them.
So today is deadline day for the first window, thanks to this glorified FIFA pre-season friendly tournament. Do we have to sell someone today to meet our June PSR obligation? Or does the second window open up in time?
Isn't today just the deadline for players to be registered in time for the silly US thing?
There's nothing stopping us from selling someone tomorrow, it's just that if they go to a team in that tournament then they can't use them.
Injuries aside, JJ having to be shoehorned into the side, out left, perhaps doesn’t allow him to be at his best. I guess we are also stacked in the central midfield position too. Does this make him sellable? Equally, if the Stoke lad comes in, I presume this doesn’t apply to list of club trained as he didn’t come through the ranks?
Some headlines circling about JJ to Newcastle for £30m.
When you look at other fees, that would be very low. £40-45 minimum is his value surely?
The price we’ll likely pay for needing the money by the end of the month.
I thought after the Chelsea/PL meeting last week we'd be flogging stuff to ourselves to get round all this?
I'd heard some weeks ago, from someone who knows the family, that JJ was going to Newcastle & that the family were gutted by it.
I also saw an interview with Howe where he stated Newcastle weren't under the same PSR concerns as last season & hoped to take advantage of teams who were.
Everyone knows or assumes we need to sell, so we're not going to be able to drive the price up. Unless we can ship out some of the deadwood, it could be JJ is the one to go this season.
JJ to Newcastle would be pretty shit it has to be said, especially because they finished above us on pissing goal difference.
But, if we must be the only club to comply with these rules by selling one of our best players every summer (rather than breaking the rules, being insulated by having been successful 10 years ago, or by selling the women's team / a hotel) then so be it...
JJ to Newcastle and Martinez to Man Utd would sour me so much on football in general. Think I'd just watch cricket and tennis. And maybe the women's game.
I mean, £30m would almost not be worth it. Just take a points deduction at that stage, fuck's sake. £30m for Jacob Ramsey? In this market? Why don't we just babysit their dogs and help them move while we're at it? Would be a grave and barely forgivable fuck up, in my view, either in the actual transaction or, if you prefer, in the strategy that's got us here in the first place.
I mean, £30m would almost not be worth it. Just take a points deduction at that stage, fuck's sake. £30m for Jacob Ramsey? In this market? Why don't we just babysit their dogs and help them move while we're at it? Would be a grave and barely forgivable fuck up, in my view, either in the actual transaction or, if you prefer, in the strategy that's got us here in the first place.
Exactly. Of course there is the potential link to Barnes coming the other way as well... But still.
Yep, Howe fits that shitty bunch of bastards right down to the ground.
Yep, Howe fits that shitty bunch of bastards right down to the ground.
A man who keeps that awful assistant about to do his dirty work. After they beat Arsenal in the league cup Howes interview was fascinating, basically saying he drills into the team they are in 11 one on one battles, and to win theirs, in any way possible, including going over the line to make sure.
Yep, Howe fits that shitty bunch of bastards right down to the ground.
A man who keeps that awful assistant about to do his dirty work. After they beat Arsenal in the league cup Howes interview was fascinating, basically saying he drills into the team they are in 11 one on one battles, and to win theirs, in any way possible, including going over the line to make sure.
Doesn't surprise me at all. It's one step up from those 'classic' Wimbledon or Stoke sides. Hideous.
Barnes is a mid table winger who has the odd cracking game. Should be at Fulham or somewhere like that.
Injuries aside, JJ having to be shoehorned into the side, out left, perhaps doesn’t allow him to be at his best. I guess we are also stacked in the central midfield position too. Does this make him sellable? Equally, if the Stoke lad comes in, I presume this doesn’t apply to list of club trained as he didn’t come through the ranks?
Correct. He's also only 18, so if we were using him next season (something which would be a surprise in itself) he doesn't need to be on the main squad lists anyway.
has been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years since his 15th birthday (players aged 16 may be registered if they have been registered with the club for the previous two years).
Where are the solid reports he’s going to Newcastle?
I can’t see it, the site seems to have dropped back into doom and gloom mode.
I thought we would be in profit this year and a much higher turnover.
🚨 Leeds United have made an enquiry for Àlex Moreno — Burnley are also showing an interest.Ooh, can we get a bidding war going?
@JacobsBen
Don't think we can, as I believe he doesn't have a release clause.🚨 Leeds United have made an enquiry for Àlex Moreno — Burnley are also showing an interest.Ooh, can we get a bidding war going?
@JacobsBen
It is the rumours page and that is what this is - a rumour that has started in one news outlet and been copied by others.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/sky-sports-newcastle-keen-to-sign-30m-star-compared-to-jude-bellingham/ar-AA1GnZ3L?ocid=BingNewsSerp
According to the expert on TS we are not desperate nobody is regarding PSR, to all intents and purposes it’s deadIt is the rumours page and that is what this is - a rumour that has started in one news outlet and been copied by others.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/sky-sports-newcastle-keen-to-sign-30m-star-compared-to-jude-bellingham/ar-AA1GnZ3L?ocid=BingNewsSerp
I appreciate it is for rumours and I don’t have a problem with it. It’s the view that our position is desperate that I don’t believe.
According to the expert on TS we are not desperate nobody is regarding PSR, to all intents and purposes it’s deadIt is the rumours page and that is what this is - a rumour that has started in one news outlet and been copied by others.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/sky-sports-newcastle-keen-to-sign-30m-star-compared-to-jude-bellingham/ar-AA1GnZ3L?ocid=BingNewsSerp
I appreciate it is for rumours and I don’t have a problem with it. It’s the view that our position is desperate that I don’t believe.
Defender Kesler-Hayden expected to leave Villa this summer - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cwyvzkw45nlo
Defender Kesler-Hayden expected to leave Villa this summer - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cwyvzkw45nlo
That’s a shame, really thought he was going to make the breakthrough at Villa
But is our warchest on fire?In the wake of no other information, I think it is safe to assume it is.
Our PSR situation changes significantly on July 1st, we’ll see a flurry of well-placed blows upon our enemies then.Yep, I suspect we've just decided to take longer whilst we're preparing bids, and will have the fax machine all fired up to send them out at 00:01 on 1st July. It'll take our opponents by surprise, having not realised that we've secretly lugged a massive warchest in to Emery's office on 30th June.
I wonder how many on here (probably more on Villa Talk) know what a Fax machine is?
I wonder how many on here (probably more on Villa Talk) know what a Fax machine is?
Norwegian press saying we've pulled out of the Nyapan deal due to ffp issues and having no money.
I wonder how many on here (probably more on Villa Talk) know what a Fax machine is?
I would imagine around 100%. The average age is about 55!
Norwegian press saying we've pulled out of the Nyapan deal due to ffp issues and having no money.
There's no way we're pulling out of a deal for a kid because of FFP; signing him would surely help with it if he's that good.
I've still got a US Robotics Fax-Modem in a box in the loft. Does that count?I wonder how many on here (probably more on Villa Talk) know what a Fax machine is?
who still has one ?
Norwegian press saying we've pulled out of the Nyapan deal due to ffp issues and having no money.
Norwegian press saying we've pulled out of the Nyapan deal due to ffp issues and having no money.
I would state it is more that he has done nothing of note this season when he is supposed to be breaking through. One goal early on but highlights (and I stress highlights) I have seen of the other games, he always seemed lost and not involved in any of the attacking play.
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1932784941684670951?s=46
Nypan headed to Man City
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1932784941684670951?s=46
Nypan headed to Man City
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1932784941684670951?s=46
Nypan headed to Man City
Tying those deals up before the ban. Brilliant stuff. They really are the biggest bunch of ******.
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1932784941684670951?s=46
Nypan headed to Man City
Tying those deals up before the ban. Brilliant stuff. They really are the biggest bunch of ******.
They are, but so are all the people letting them get away with it.
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1932784941684670951?s=46
Nypan headed to Man City
Tying those deals up before the ban. Brilliant stuff. They really are the biggest bunch of ******.
They are, but so are all the people letting them get away with it.
They still used them in the histopathology department at the Royal Marsden Hospital circa 2010 for sharing reports between hospitals. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if that was still happening.They phased out fax machines at Manchester University NHS FT, I'm going to say around 2016-18? It was a few years after I started working there (2013) anyway.
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1932784941684670951?s=46
Nypan headed to Man City
Tying those deals up before the ban. Brilliant stuff. They really are the biggest bunch of ******.
They are, but so are all the people letting them get away with it.
Which includes clubs like us who haven’t stood in the way they, Chelsea, Man U etc justify their revenues. It’s fucking shit that fans of other clubs have to watch this go on and there is nothing we can do. The rules protect the established few.
They phased out fax machines at Manchester University NHS FT, I'm going to say around 2016-18? It was a few years after I started working there (2013) anyway.
One thing I find funny is that a while back I was asked if I could investigate automatically retrieving reports from electrodiagnostic testing (something to do with eyes, not sure what exactly). Went to see the doctor down there, who was an utterly lovely chap, and he said "Yeah, if you like ... I'll show it to you". He then proceeded to show me that the machine outputted the results on to a 5.25" floppy, which was then loaded up on an Amstrad machine to copy it from a 5.25" to 3.5" floppy, and then on to a third ancient-looking computer that had a 3.5" floppy drive and a network connection. He'd said if I worked out a way to automate that, he'd be a very happy man - otherwise the best way was to get them off the network drive, which is exactly what he'd been telling folk to do for years.
The NHS wet using Fax until quite recently. It was the only way they'd accept and send certain communication.I worked on the original NHS Fax removal project back in the early noughties :-)
The NHS wet using Fax until quite recently. It was the only way they'd accept and send certain communication.I worked on the original NHS Fax removal project back in the early noughties :-)
I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
Probs still there & in use :-)The NHS wet using Fax until quite recently. It was the only way they'd accept and send certain communication.I worked on the original NHS Fax removal project back in the early noughties :-)
Well they were still using it as recently as 2020 at least (I think possibly later but Covid has confused things) . I know because I wanted rid of fax but we had to keep it to satisfy the NHS team we worked with!
I wonder how many on here (probably more on Villa Talk) know what a Fax machine is?
who still has one ?
I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
It wasnt the easiest.
Fax machines and printers the baine of my life as an "it" professional.
The amount of times that I worked places and lost apparently dozens of sales because the fax had run out of paper or ink. Last IT manager role I did finished in 2014 but the fax was still vital then. Mind you it did finish cos we went out of business
Apparently Bournemouth value Illya Zabarnyi at £62m. They’ve rejected an offer of £42m already. Someone tell me how Newcastle think they are getting JJ for £40m.
And Zabarnyi is one of the best young centre-backs in the world.
I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
It wasnt the easiest.
I cant seem to find any reason why they dont want technology on the premises? I take it they had phones, whats the difference?
I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
It wasnt the easiest.
I cant seem to find any reason why they dont want technology on the premises? I take it they had phones, whats the difference?
They have now adopted tech with controls with oversight of the elders.
However, going back they would have landlines but not mobiles, and radios and tvs were not allowed.
I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
It wasnt the easiest.
I cant seem to find any reason why they dont want technology on the premises? I take it they had phones, whats the difference?
They have now adopted tech with controls with oversight of the elders.
However, going back they would have landlines but not mobiles, and radios and tvs were not allowed.
Any idea why?
I used to do a bit of business with one of the Bretheren and I wasn't conscious of any technological no-no's from him.
Yeah - particularly the younger ones are realitively IT literate (i.e. they can do the kind of basic stuff my mum can do) - but they have very tight controls on what sites they can access. There cars still have no radios though. My understanding is it is God's principle of unity - i.e. the outside, non-brethern, world.I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
It wasnt the easiest.
I cant seem to find any reason why they dont want technology on the premises? I take it they had phones, whats the difference?
They have now adopted tech with controls with oversight of the elders.
However, going back they would have landlines but not mobiles, and radios and tvs were not allowed.
Any idea why?
I used to do a bit of business with one of the Bretheren and I wasn't conscious of any technological no-no's from him.
We still have ours. I last sent a fax that badboy about 5 years ago - KPI’s to the ONS. It sits in the corner of the office, all alone, a little bit dusty. Like a grandparent in a rocking chair, taking it easy now but many moons ago was once was a hive of activity, the workhorse of the office.
When I first started, a whole morning would be assigned to take it to task. Meeting minutes, information requests, all kinds of correspondence would go through it. I remember the finger dexterity needed when sending a 50 something page document without accidently letting 2 pages go through together. The dreaded phone call that page 17 was wonky and would need to be resent. And how could you forget the anticipation of the confirmation receipt, only to turn into despair when it turned out to be an advert/spam. Stop it, you’re using up all the toner on this bullshit, I just want my confirmation sheet.
I would handle 100s of pages per day, religiously checking the paper tray. Bollockings were dished out for this crime, to the point of having to fill it up before clocking out time. A fax machine should have paper in it at all times.
Then, emails came along and the fax was discarded almost instantly.
Good times.
Yeah - particularly the younger ones are realitively IT literate (i.e. they can do the kind of basic stuff my mum can do) - but they have very tight controls on what sites they can access. There cars still have no radios though. My understanding is it is God's principle of unity - i.e. the outside, non-brethern, world.I once had a summer job with a company owned by Plymouth Brethren. They accepted orders by fax but wouldn’t have a fax machine (let alone computers) on the premises. So, they paid the company next door to use their machine and one of us would go round every morning to collect the faxes.Ha - I briefly worked with Plymouth Brethern - making there websites.
It wasnt the easiest.
I cant seem to find any reason why they dont want technology on the premises? I take it they had phones, whats the difference?
They have now adopted tech with controls with oversight of the elders.
However, going back they would have landlines but not mobiles, and radios and tvs were not allowed.
Any idea why?
I used to do a bit of business with one of the Bretheren and I wasn't conscious of any technological no-no's from him.
This is getting tedious. Can we get back on topic? Films/actors that can also be loosely related to transfers. The Sean Bean to Villa rumours seem to have gone quiet.
It’s more interesting than second guessing if all doom monger’s in the press are true and we have to sell all our best players again.Funny how we're suddenly desperate to sell all our players ever since we became a real threat to the Sky6 cartel.
So far I’ve seen online Emi, Roger’s, Ramsey, Kamara and now Tielemans is off.
It’s more interesting than second guessing if all doom monger’s in the press are true and we have to sell all our best players again.Funny how we're suddenly desperate to sell all our players ever since we became a real threat to the Sky6 cartel.
So far I’ve seen online Emi, Roger’s, Ramsey, Kamara and now Tielemans is off.
Sean Bean bought me a pint once - I would be up for him coming to Villa purely on those grounds.
This is getting tedious. Can we get back on topic? Films/actors that can also be loosely related to transfers. The Sean Bean to Villa rumours seem to have gone quiet.The Bastard! (Sharpe reference) - just seen Drummond's post!
Ah - never seen Sharpe. Let me guess - does he die?This is getting tedious. Can we get back on topic? Films/actors that can also be loosely related to transfers. The Sean Bean to Villa rumours seem to have gone quiet.The Bastard! (Sharpe reference) - just seen Drummond's post!
One last post on the fax theme. A mate of mine was tour manager for The Fall until Mark E Smith’s demise. MES insisted on communicating by fax from his local corner shop (tour itineraries, riders etc.) right up until he died in 2018.
All the reports seem to suggest that the PSR shortfall is 'only' £15m or so, wonder why we don't sell a kid to one of our feeder clubs for that.
One last post on the fax theme. A mate of mine was tour manager for The Fall until Mark E Smith’s demise. MES insisted on communicating by fax from his local corner shop (tour itineraries, riders etc.) right up until he died in 2018.Would expect nothing less of the great man.
Wow, I never knew Mark E Smith was a Plymouth Brethren
Ah - never seen Sharpe. Let me guess - does he die?This is getting tedious. Can we get back on topic? Films/actors that can also be loosely related to transfers. The Sean Bean to Villa rumours seem to have gone quiet.The Bastard! (Sharpe reference) - just seen Drummond's post!
One last post on the fax theme. A mate of mine was tour manager for The Fall until Mark E Smith’s demise. MES insisted on communicating by fax from his local corner shop (tour itineraries, riders etc.) right up until he died in 2018.
We'll be the judge of that, thank you very much (although this is a very entertaining post)!
Was it Phil Collins who divorced his wife/was divorced by his wife over fax?
https://tbrfootball.com/emi-martinez-can-go-but-frustrated-unai-emery-is-still-refusing-to-sell-100m-aston-villa-star/
That quotes Graerme Bailey, isn't he the Football Insider bloke?
Talking about old stuff that was brilliantI used to feel for the coins too. Not one penny less.
Can anyone remember those old brown envelope wage packets
Where are your wages (weekly then) were written on the front and there was a little hole in the corner at the top where the notes poked through, so you could count it before you opened it up
Your proper working class if you can remember them
🚨🟣🔵 EXCL: Aston Villa start club to club talks for Real Betis talent Jesús Rodriguez.
2005 born talent on shortlist of several clubs but Villa made contact this week to start discussions.
The Grauniad is still desperately trying to sell us Garnacho (https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jun/13/football-transfer-rumours-alejandro-garnacho-manchester-united-aston-villa-victor-osimhen-bryan-mbeumo).
NO, NO and thrice NO!!
That quotes Graerme Bailey, isn't he the Football Insider bloke?
He does stuff for them yeah.
Absolute Z-tier source, one of the worst transfer bullshit merchants
🚨🟣🔵 EXCL: Aston Villa start club to club talks for Real Betis talent Jesús Rodriguez.
2005 born talent on shortlist of several clubs but Villa made contact this week to start discussions.
"The first thing you notice about Rodríguez is his blistering pace." - sign him up
I'd take him. He's talented and an arsehole, we need more players like that.
I'd take him. He's talented and an arsehole, we need more players like that.
he needs to sort both his hair and eyebrows out though first , then we can talk
Talking about old stuff that was brilliantI used to feel for the coins too. Not one penny less.
Can anyone remember those old brown envelope wage packets
Where are your wages (weekly then) were written on the front and there was a little hole in the corner at the top where the notes poked through, so you could count it before you opened it up
Your proper working class if you can remember them
Talking about old stuff that was brilliantI used to feel for the coins too. Not one penny less.
Can anyone remember those old brown envelope wage packets
Where are your wages (weekly then) were written on the front and there was a little hole in the corner at the top where the notes poked through, so you could count it before you opened it up
Your proper working class if you can remember them
If you were that way inclined, you could push a knitting needle through at the end where the notes were exposed, and carefully wrap one tightly around the needle, remove it from the unopened envelope. And then go back to the wages office and claim you'd been underpaid.
Talking about old stuff that was brilliantI used to feel for the coins too. Not one penny less.
Can anyone remember those old brown envelope wage packets
Where are your wages (weekly then) were written on the front and there was a little hole in the corner at the top where the notes poked through, so you could count it before you opened it up
Your proper working class if you can remember them
If you were that way inclined, you could push a knitting needle through at the end where the notes were exposed, and carefully wrap one tightly around the needle, remove it from the unopened envelope. And then go back to the wages office and claim you'd been underpaid.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa continue to prioritize the signing of Sevilla centre-back Loïc Badé.
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🚨 NEW: Aston Villa continue to prioritize the signing of Sevilla centre-back Loïc Badé.
@Orgullo_Nervion
Comes from France so we wouldn't add a new country. However, not sure we've ever had a player with a diaeresis before so that would be enticing.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa continue to prioritize the signing of Sevilla centre-back Loïc Badé.
@Orgullo_Nervion
Comes from France so we wouldn't add a new country. However, not sure we've ever had a player with a diaeresis before so that would be enticing.
🚨 Aston Villa like Valencia midfielder Javi Guerra.
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Edited. Probably a bit much.
🚨 Aston Villa like Valencia midfielder Javi Guerra.
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🚨 Aston Villa like Valencia midfielder Javi Guerra.
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🚨 Aston Villa like Valencia midfielder Javi Guerra.
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🚨 Aston Villa like Valencia midfielder Javi Guerra.
@86_longo
Fuck him then. Fuck him right in the ear.for the right price.
Never rated him anyway - just a poor man’s [insert name of some bang average player in the same position he plays]
Fuck him then. Fuck him right in the ear.
Fuck him then. Fuck him right in the ear.Fuck him in the other ear
🚨 NEW: Atlético have placed Lucas Digne on a list of alternative options should their interest in Andrew Robertson reach a dead end.despite a good couple of seasons, big wages and the other side of 30 it makes sense to flog.
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I notice Dirty Leeds are trying to sign Jaka Bijol, the Slovenian CB who played well in the last Euros; a two-footed ball-playing CB.
Which is nice.
I see on the "News now" feed not only are all our players up for sale but so is Monchi who is being recourted by Seville.
Meanwhile we will break the bank for Sancho.
I know we can all be paranoid regarding the British press but it is hard not to believe they really do have some vendetta against us and I'm not sure why.
Does it go back back because we stopped the favourable Bobby Robsons Ipswich from winning the league or that the following year we won the big one?
Or is it a London, and now Northwest bias?
Either way it always feels any praise is always begrudgingly givn
I see on the "News now" feed not only are all our players up for sale but so is Monchi who is being recourted by Seville.
Meanwhile we will break the bank for Sancho.
I know we can all be paranoid regarding the British press but it is hard not to believe they really do have some vendetta against us and I'm not sure why.
Does it go back back because we stopped the favourable Bobby Robsons Ipswich from winning the league or that the following year we won the big one?
Or is it a London, and now Northwest bias?
Either way it always feels any praise is always begrudgingly givn
I see on the "News now" feed not only are all our players up for sale but so is Monchi who is being recourted by Seville.
Meanwhile we will break the bank for Sancho.
I know we can all be paranoid regarding the British press but it is hard not to believe they really do have some vendetta against us and I'm not sure why.
Does it go back back because we stopped the favourable Bobby Robsons Ipswich from winning the league or that the following year we won the big one?
Or is it a London, and now Northwest bias?
Either way it always feels any praise is always begrudgingly givn
My dad has always been adamant that it's because we beat the nations precious "Busby Babes" in 1957.
Rashford was great for us but have big reservations he will consistently do it for us over a whole season.I have reservations too.
This is my take on it too, I think spending the money on Rashford is a risk.Rashford was great for us but have big reservations he will consistently do it for us over a whole season.I have reservations too.
I’m not sure he ‘was great’ for us. He did ok in flashes.
I’d much rather we played Rogers in that position and we brought in a quality wide right player to replace Bailey.
It's partly because we didn't qualify for CL. They need a narrative for clicks and ours is now everyone is for sale. If we'd qualified for CL, it would be the same, but because we're replacing them all with better.
It's partly because we didn't qualify for CL. They need a narrative for clicks and ours is now everyone is for sale. If we'd qualified for CL, it would be the same, but because we're replacing them all with better.
Narrative aside, I think we'd have been doing similar business this summer regardless of CL qualification.
I notice Dirty Leeds are trying to sign Jaka Bijol, the Slovenian CB who played well in the last Euros; a two-footed ball-playing CB.Is he really on disproportionally big wages? I know this has been the general thinking, but he was on big wages when we were mid-table and struggling. Surely most of the squad will have caught up with him by now?
Which is nice.
Yup, me too.This is my take on it too, I think spending the money on Rashford is a risk.Rashford was great for us but have big reservations he will consistently do it for us over a whole season.I have reservations too.
I’m not sure he ‘was great’ for us. He did ok in flashes.
I’d much rather we played Rogers in that position and we brought in a quality wide right player to replace Bailey.
A bit of a non sequitur, Chris, unless I'm missing something very subtle.I notice Dirty Leeds are trying to sign Jaka Bijol, the Slovenian CB who played well in the last Euros; a two-footed ball-playing CB.Is he really on disproportionally big wages? I know this has been the general thinking, but he was on big wages when we were mid-table and struggling. Surely most of the squad will have caught up with him by now?
Which is nice.
A bit of a non sequitur, Chris, unless I'm missing something very subtle.I notice Dirty Leeds are trying to sign Jaka Bijol, the Slovenian CB who played well in the last Euros; a two-footed ball-playing CB.Is he really on disproportionally big wages? I know this has been the general thinking, but he was on big wages when we were mid-table and struggling. Surely most of the squad will have caught up with him by now?
Which is nice.
This is my take on it too, I think spending the money on Rashford is a risk.Rashford was great for us but have big reservations he will consistently do it for us over a whole season.I have reservations too.
I’m not sure he ‘was great’ for us. He did ok in flashes.
I’d much rather we played Rogers in that position and we brought in a quality wide right player to replace Bailey.
Harvey Elliott seems to be main link that's actually believable.
His spaghetti hair is infuriating. It's not even al dente.
So it's 5 years to the day since we "stayed-up" by "cheating". Y'know, the day Nyland and Davis fucked-up but got away with it. Nil-all against Sheffield United. Dean Henderson in goal for them was man of the match #justsayin
We've come a long way baby, whatever happens this summer...
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Harvey Elliott seems to be main link that's actually believable.
Think he is a very good player. If it wernt for his injury record its a no brainer for me
Harvey Elliott seems to be main link that's actually believable.
Think he is a very good player. If it wernt for his injury record its a no brainer for me
Wasn’t aware of an injury record, that said I don’t notice much outside of Villa.
As you say, very good player who I think would do very well in our system
Harvey Elliott seems to be main link that's actually believable.
Think he is a very good player. If it wernt for his injury record its a no brainer for me
Wasn’t aware of an injury record, that said I don’t notice much outside of Villa.
As you say, very good player who I think would do very well in our system
Broke his leg didn’t he? Played a hundred games since I think.
As you say, very good player who I think would do very well in our system
As you say, very good player who I think would do very well in our system
Whereabouts? I had him as more of a midfielder, an 8, rather than a winger. Lacks pace for a winger.
What’s he reasonably worth do we think? I heard a Liverpool pundit on a podcast yesterday suggest 50m and I think I’ve only now stopped laughing.
Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He’s the kind of player we used to sign. Would be underwhelming. But what do I know.
Well, other than the fact that Brewster never played for the full L'pool side whereas Elliott has had 92 appearances (and 24 for the England U21).Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
How many starts?Well, other than the fact that Brewster never played for the full L'pool side whereas Elliott has had 92 appearances (and 24 for the England U21).Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
For a reported £30m, Elliott would be a decent acquisition for the Emery 'talent academy'.
£30m seems too much for Elliot, he's just a paul birch grafter. £5-10m you'd think 'alright then decent business, does a job, scores the odd screamer...'
Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
£30m seems too much for Elliot, he's just a paul birch grafter. £5-10m you'd think 'alright then decent business, does a job, scores the odd screamer...'
You're not signing a second-choice goalkeeper from the Slovenian league for £5m these days.
£30m seems too much for Elliot, he's just a paul birch grafter. £5-10m you'd think 'alright then decent business, does a job, scores the odd screamer...'
You're not signing a second-choice goalkeeper from the Slovenian league for £5m these days.
True but I agree with the point, I'd only be interested if he was on a free and there was a gap in the squad.
He’d be Buendia replacement, backup
£30m seems too much for Elliot, he's just a paul birch grafter. £5-10m you'd think 'alright then decent business, does a job, scores the odd screamer...'
You're not signing a second-choice goalkeeper from the Slovenian league for £5m these days.
The Slovenian one probably isn't bringing his £180,000 per week wages with him though.
I wonder what the feeling on here would have been had we been linked with bit part Man U player Scott McTominay last summer?
We simply can't be signing anyone called Harvey. I'm not having it.
So how is he going to help us compete against a team with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo?Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
Not being good enough to get into a team where he's competing with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo (as either a 10 or a Right Winger) doesn't mean he's not a good player.
So how is he going to help us compete against a team with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo?Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
Not being good enough to get into a team where he's competing with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo (as either a 10 or a Right Winger) doesn't mean he's not a good player.
So how is he going to help us compete against a team with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo?Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
Not being good enough to get into a team where he's competing with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo (as either a 10 or a Right Winger) doesn't mean he's not a good player.
I wonder what the feeling on here would have been had we been linked with bit part Man U player Scott McTominay last summer?I would have welcomed him.
I wonder what the feeling on here would have been had we been linked with bit part Man U player Scott McTominay last summer?I would have been very pleased. I’ve always rated him and he’d have worked well with McGinn.
According to whom?
So how is he going to help us compete against a team with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo?Am I getting confused but is this the same player who everyone was moaning about for England the other day?The reason he does not get in the Liverpool team is because he is not good enough.
He has been hyped up , could be another Brewster situation.
Not being good enough to get into a team where he's competing with Salah, Szoboslai, Jota, Diaz and Gakpo (as either a 10 or a Right Winger) doesn't mean he's not a good player.
We're not going to play Liverpool every week.
35 across 6 seasons. Only 2 last seasonExactly,
Maybe we shouldn't have bought Martinez if he wasn't good enough for Arsenal.
I kind of get the argument but in this case, Liverpool are a very good side and he's only 22.
Ah, lots of the all time classic template transfer discussions present here.
"Yeah, but imagine how we'd have reacted had we bought <PLAYER WHO HAS DONE SURPRISINGLY WELL ELSEWHERE> this time last year"
"If he's not good enough for <INSERT NAME OF SIDE WHICH IS NOT US> then he's not good enough for us"
"But by that logic, we shouldn't have bought <INSERT NAME OF PLAYER WHO DID WELL FOR US> either, should we?"
"It's alright, he's just here as a back up to <NAME OF CURRENT VILLA PLAYER ONLY SLIGHTLY BETTER> not as a starter"
is that the idea of this thread? :)
I miss FV with his "Monchi Magic". We'd have fucking loads of signings by now if he was here.
Well if you flip that to - we wont lose any of our players - maybe bring in Marco again on Loan - we would go into next season with a team that won something like 10 out of the last 8
I can think of worse places to be.
It's nailed on that Bailey and Barkley will be out add to that Coutinho finally coming off the books and it gives us a fair bit of wriggle room.
It's nailed on that Bailey and Barkley will be out add to that Coutinho finally coming off the books and it gives us a fair bit of wriggle room.
Why is it nailed on that Barkley will be going? He's one of our lower earners and we still need a squad to deal with four competitions.
Buendia for £20 million - there is zero chance we get any offers for him of that amount- another season on loan for him
Vidiganys lad, who told my lad Martinez had asked to leave, which may or may not be true, has now told him, we’re signing one major signing maximum this summer and will only do that if we sell. You heard it here first, nudge nudge wink wink say no more.
So this thread might as wrll close now
We'd still be a right-sided centre-back short given all of Mings, Pau and Ozcan are left-sided.
I think we have a decent enough squad without adding to it if no one left (of the mainstays). It will be typical Villa if next year the PSR rules are scrapped as we lose a hefty loss from one of the three year cycle!
Uncles Ozcan is being seen as a left back
I think Ozcan played left back for Turkey a few weeks back
I'm not, i said unless he's being seen as a backup to Maatsen at left back to allow Digne to move on.
I'm not, i said unless he's being seen as a backup to Maatsen at left back to allow Digne to move on.
Ah, gotcha. Your typo of "Uncle Ozcan" made me think that you'd given him a fun new nickname and you were saying he was going to be playing at left-back.
I love this thread, it is better than the <INSERT THREAD NAME> threadis that the idea of this thread? :)
"If you don't like discussing hypothetical transfers, <INSERT POSTER NAME>, why don't you just avoid this thread?"
But why are we assuming he's going to be playing left-back for us?Gareth Barry will play left back, once Shorey is hooked and the re-shuffle is re-introduced.
Ok maybe not nailed on but my gut instinct is he will go and possibly make an extra squad place available for one of the young lions to get a squad number. I could be wrong of course. I often am.It's nailed on that Bailey and Barkley will be out add to that Coutinho finally coming off the books and it gives us a fair bit of wriggle room.
Why is it nailed on that Barkley will be going? He's one of our lower earners and we still need a squad to deal with four competitions.
But why are we assuming he's going to be playing left-back for us?Gareth Barry will play left back, once Shorey is hooked and the re-shuffle is re-introduced.
But why are we assuming he's going to be playing left-back for us?Gareth Barry will play left back, once Shorey is hooked and the re-shuffle is re-introduced.
That was gold, and by gold I mean utterly sh*t. Players that time still passed the ball back to GB to be our playmaker while at LB. Milner and NRC got shifted RB on occasion too. A bit mad really
I've got a feeling Emery rates Barkley too - I think he'll be a Europa League player.
But why are we assuming he's going to be playing left-back for us?Gareth Barry will play left back, once Shorey is hooked and the re-shuffle is re-introduced.
That was gold, and by gold I mean utterly sh*t. Players that time still passed the ball back to GB to be our playmaker while at LB. Milner and NRC got shifted RB on occasion too. A bit mad really
I was reading a piece in The Athletic about how there may be a bit of resurgence in going longer, quicker next season, and stats for long passes have been in decline in the post '92 era since their peak in 2006-2007. Made me chuckle as that was year O'Neill turned up.
But why are we assuming he's going to be playing left-back for us?Gareth Barry will play left back, once Shorey is hooked and the re-shuffle is re-introduced.
That was gold, and by gold I mean utterly sh*t. Players that time still passed the ball back to GB to be our playmaker while at LB. Milner and NRC got shifted RB on occasion too. A bit mad really
I was reading a piece in The Athletic about how there may be a bit of resurgence in going longer, quicker next season, and stats for long passes have been in decline in the post '92 era since their peak in 2006-2007. Made me chuckle as that was year O'Neill turned up.
Yep x and Torres could prove it be highly effective. We just need pace up top for him to pass to.
He does seem to have lost a yard of pace. Maybe ages/ miles on the clock and niggles catching up with him
He does seem to have lost a yard of pace. Maybe ages/ miles on the clock and niggles catching up with him
Evidence?
He does seem to have lost a yard of pace. Maybe ages/ miles on the clock and niggles catching up with him
Evidence?
He does seem to have lost a yard of pace. Maybe ages/ miles on the clock and niggles catching up with him
Evidence?
My eyes. He looked slower than usual last season and has never been blistering.
I think on one of the CL speed things he was about 7th fastest for Villa.
Seems to have bulked up a bit possibly to help with his hold up gameHe does seem to have lost a yard of pace. Maybe ages/ miles on the clock and niggles catching up with him
Evidence?
Gabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.fast forward to 2030 he'll be on Talksport with Brazil and the Moose
Gabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.Most people follow the formula towards being old and fat. I know I’m well on course.
Gabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.fast forward to 2030 he'll be on Talksport with Brazil and the Moose
Gabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.fast forward to 2030 he'll be on Talksport with Brazil and the Moose
Yes but he's looked that way for over 10 years . He's indestructable in the mould of Keith RichardsGabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.fast forward to 2030 he'll be on Talksport with Brazil and the Moose
Brazil looks like he's unlikely to see out the next 5 months, let alone 5 years.
Also seems to have got older.
Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will want
Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
20 yearsYes but he's looked that way for over 10 years . He's indestructable in the mould of Keith RichardsGabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.fast forward to 2030 he'll be on Talksport with Brazil and the Moose
Brazil looks like he's unlikely to see out the next 5 months, let alone 5 years.
Also seems to have got older.
Evidence?
Gabby got old and fat and became our record PL goalscorer. Ollie only following a winng formula.
Also seems to have got older.
Evidence?
Calendars And Clocks.
Also seems to have got older.
Evidence?
Calendars And Clocks.
I was just riffing on the request for evidence a little further up :)
Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have made contact with Lille over a move for goalkeeper Lucas Chevalier — fee around £40m.
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🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have made contact with Lille over a move for goalkeeper Lucas Chevalier — fee around £40m.
@LaurensJulien
He is really good. Future goal keeper for France.
I thought he was excellent against us in the conference league
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have made contact with Lille over a move for goalkeeper Lucas Chevalier — fee around £40m.Was at a work do yesterday with a die-hard Lille fan.
@LaurensJulien
If he turns out to be Vauxhall Chevalier I'll be fuming !!He is really good. Future goal keeper for France.
I'm sold. Welcome, Luke Knight!
(If he turns out to be rubbish or we don't sign him, I will be very angry with you.)
We need FV type info on this.
We need FV type info on this.
BrilliantWe need FV type info on this.
His name is similar to Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-George, who was also French. And George is the future king of England, and also a Villa fan. Seems a likely signing.
BrilliantWe need FV type info on this.
His name is similar to Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-George, who was also French. And George is the future king of England, and also a Villa fan. Seems a likely signing.
I have watched the obligatory YouTube video of chevalier and he certainly looks a very, good shot stopper.
It looks like he tends to parry the ball a lot though.
God knows if he can catch a ball or take crosses though.
Of course, one of the main attributes of a goalie is his ability to manage the players in front of him and the confidence he gives them.
Plus the mind fuck effect the has on the opposition.
That’s where it becomes so difficult to replace EMI.
Digne to Athletico Madrid according to football insider. They’re ‘preparing an £8m bid’.
Digne to Athletico Madrid according to football insider. They’re ‘preparing an £8m bid’.
Agree, defensively Maatsen gives me the heebie jeebies.Digne to Athletico Madrid according to football insider. They’re ‘preparing an £8m bid’.
I'd rather keep Digne and sell Maatsen, I thought Digne was yet again consistent all season, Maatsen has looked vunerable at the back.
Agree regarding Digne’s contribution. But at some point, we need to break with some or all of that more aged rump - Digne, Emi, Ollie, SJM, Mings. Not all in one go, but it’s important to make progress there this summer (otherwise it will be all in one go next summer).Agree, defensively Maatsen gives me the heebie jeebies.Digne to Athletico Madrid according to football insider. They’re ‘preparing an £8m bid’.
I'd rather keep Digne and sell Maatsen, I thought Digne was yet again consistent all season, Maatsen has looked vunerable at the back.
Football Insider is clickbait
I really like Maatsen, he was a huge asset in the last three months of last season. I agree with Digne, he's been a great signing, but maybe it's time to cash in on him.
Maatsen will be fine as a wing back/left midfield with our new 3 at the back style.
I really like Maatsen, he was a huge asset in the last three months of last season.He was awful at OT.
I really like Maatsen, he was a huge asset in the last three months of last season.He was awful at OT.
I really like Maatsen, he was a huge asset in the last three months of last season.He was awful at OT.
Does that imply there's a deal between clubs but the player isn't 100% on board?
Kadan Young and yer man Redmond apparently fit the bill ...Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
Kadan Young and yer man Redmond apparently fit the bill ...Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
I'd add Hemmings, Broggio and Borland to that list of maybes.Kadan Young and yer man Redmond apparently fit the bill ...Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
In a perfect world you'd want 2-3 players in every position across the U18s and U21s that you see as having the potential to break into the first team squad by the time they hit 21/22. Most of them won't make it but at least this way you're loading the dice without hording players to a ridiculous degree. We do look to be in a decent spot wiht attacking players though, with quite a few good youngsters, Brannigan, Jimoh-Aloba and Burrowes all look like very good prospects in addition to Young (who looks like he could break through in the next 12-18months to me).
I'd add Hemmings, Broggio and Borland to that list of maybes.Kadan Young and yer man Redmond apparently fit the bill ...Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
In a perfect world you'd want 2-3 players in every position across the U18s and U21s that you see as having the potential to break into the first team squad by the time they hit 21/22. Most of them won't make it but at least this way you're loading the dice without hording players to a ridiculous degree. We do look to be in a decent spot wiht attacking players though, with quite a few good youngsters, Brannigan, Jimoh-Aloba and Burrowes all look like very good prospects in addition to Young (who looks like he could break through in the next 12-18months to me).
Does that imply there's a deal between clubs but the player isn't 100% on board?
He doesn't have enough faith?
I'd add Hemmings, Broggio and Borland to that list of maybes.Kadan Young and yer man Redmond apparently fit the bill ...Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
In a perfect world you'd want 2-3 players in every position across the U18s and U21s that you see as having the potential to break into the first team squad by the time they hit 21/22. Most of them won't make it but at least this way you're loading the dice without hording players to a ridiculous degree. We do look to be in a decent spot wiht attacking players though, with quite a few good youngsters, Brannigan, Jimoh-Aloba and Burrowes all look like very good prospects in addition to Young (who looks like he could break through in the next 12-18months to me).
I forgot Broggio, the other 2 seem to play a bit deeper from what I've seen.
Kadan Young and yer man Redmond apparently fit the bill ...Hopefully we will not be signing Rashford - for me in his loan spell he did okay - not worth the salary that he will wantAgreed. "Young and hungry", I say. Who's the next Olise / Eze / Madueke / Nico?
In a perfect world you'd want 2-3 players in every position across the U18s and U21s that you see as having the potential to break into the first team squad by the time they hit 21/22. Most of them won't make it but at least this way you're loading the dice without hording players to a ridiculous degree. We do look to be in a decent spot wiht attacking players though, with quite a few good youngsters, Brannigan, Jimoh-Aloba and Burrowes all look like very good prospects in addition to Young (who looks like he could break through in the next 12-18months to me).
If it's as a coach in one of the academy age groups, I could see that.
“No, that's not something I'm looking at at all.
"I've not done my badges, even though I keep getting told non-stop to keep going and doing.
“I think for myself, playing as long as possible is what I'll do.
“Other than that, I think going into the TV and the media stuff will be where I see myself going.”
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are in the picture for Johan Bakayoko.
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🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are in the picture for Johan Bakayoko.
@yagosabuncuoglu
I see Garnacho is on his holiday wearing a Villa top (Rashfords). Amorim is going to be gone by Xmas, he’s clearly lost a few playersIf anyone's wondering - https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/1lhv7hu/garnacho_in_a_villa_shirt/
I see Garnacho is on his holiday wearing a Villa top (Rashfords). Amorim is going to be gone by Xmas, he’s clearly lost a few playersIf anyone's wondering - https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/1lhv7hu/garnacho_in_a_villa_shirt/
Is Bertrand Traore still our most recent men's signing to give us a new nationality?Technically Kosta Nedeljković was a new nationality - Serbian as opposed to Yugoslavian.
Might as well start his own welcome thread right now
Is Bertrand Traore still our most recent men's signing to give us a new nationality?Technically Kosta Nedeljković was a new nationality - Serbian as opposed to Yugoslavian.
Garnacho and that PSV fella with Rogers at 10 please. Donny, Ollie and Zep can argue about who plays 9
I see Garnacho is on his holiday wearing a Villa top (Rashfords). Amorim is going to be gone by Xmas, he’s clearly lost a few playersIf anyone's wondering - https://www.reddit.com/r/avfc/comments/1lhv7hu/garnacho_in_a_villa_shirt/
Whatever his intentions, he’s definitely lit a fuse that’s for sure. What also is a nailed on fact is that if it was Emi wearing a United shirt, the West Midlands would under flood alert with the rising tide of pant pissing.
Garnacho and that PSV fella with Rogers at 10 please. Donny, Ollie and Zep can argue about who plays 9
No, PSV. Bakayoko.Garnacho and that PSV fella with Rogers at 10 please. Donny, Ollie and Zep can argue about who plays 9
Is Asensio the PSG fella? Wasn’t him playing 10 a condition of him joining on loan.
Marcus seemed to like the post. Fuck Man U. We can have them both.That would be very funny, and I’d be entirely in favour of it
https://x.com/bbcmotd/status/1936886703807164841?s=46
"Convincing him to join the club should not be too difficult. This could be Watkins’ final opportunity to play for an elite club, and he could be tempted to join Manchester United."
Does Garnacho have a preferred wing?
🚨 Aston Villa are willing to pay big for Feyenoord forward Igor Paixão.
@ADnl
🚨 Aston Villa are willing to pay big for Feyenoord forward Igor Paixão.
@ADnl
That would be different gravy.
Does Garnacho have a preferred wing?
Left. We only buy left wingers. I don't think we actually know what a right winger is.
🚨 Aston Villa are willing to pay big for Feyenoord forward Igor Paixão.
@ADnl
That would be different gravy.
I cant believe people dont like the puns that we Bisto on them ?!
🚨 Aston Villa are willing to pay big for Feyenoord forward Igor Paixão.
@ADnl
That would be different gravy.
I cant believe people dont like the puns that we Bisto on them ?!
Applause.
I presume this link has come from a sage who knows his onions. Anyway, we need to be stuffing the team with quality.
He reminds me a little of Alex Oxo-lade-Chamberlain🚨 Aston Villa are willing to pay big for Feyenoord forward Igor Paixão.
@ADnl
That would be different gravy.
I cant believe people dont like the puns that we Bisto on them ?!
Applause.
I presume this link has come from a sage who knows his onions. Anyway, we need to be stuffing the team with quality.
Fuck midfield diamonds, with these players we can play in cubesHe reminds me a little of Alex Oxo-lade-Chamberlain🚨 Aston Villa are willing to pay big for Feyenoord forward Igor Paixão.
@ADnl
That would be different gravy.
I cant believe people dont like the puns that we Bisto on them ?!
Applause.
I presume this link has come from a sage who knows his onions. Anyway, we need to be stuffing the team with quality.
I think he's a jus, though, which may alienate our palestinian fanbase*Sauce?
Well it's the most creative post on this thread ! And it's a quiet period for match day ratings so fair play.
@Bronte...that's a lot of transfer fees and wages for players that aren't pulling up any trees in their careers. It's a 'no' for me.
Tammy? Four-out-of-ten Onana 'can't play on the half turn' and we pine for Tammy?
It’s a massive no from me.
Tammy isn’t good enough, he shone for us in the Championship but he’s not shown consistent form at any of the clubs he’s been with since.
Grealish is finished as an elite-level PL player. If we were aiming for 10th place then yes I’d consider him, but if we are aiming to finish in the top four then it’s not with him in the squad.
Dougie was great for us but was bang average in his last season for us.
There’s a saying in life that you should never go back…..
I'd take Doug back, I think the manager would too, but it's probably the one area of the pitch with the lowest need for reinforcements.Im with you on that. Dougie was far from ban average in his last season here, he was outstanding for 2/3rds of it.
I'd take Doug back, I think the manager would too, but it's probably the one area of the pitch with the lowest need for reinforcements.
I'd take Doug back, I think the manager would too, but it's probably the one area of the pitch with the lowest need for reinforcements.Im with you on that. Dougie was far from ban average in his last season here, he was outstanding for 2/3rds of it.
I'd take Doug back, I think the manager would too, but it's probably the one area of the pitch with the lowest need for reinforcements.
I give this post 3 out of 10.I'd take Doug back, I think the manager would too, but it's probably the one area of the pitch with the lowest need for reinforcements.
Maybe but he's a proven fit for football.
If we are looking ahead to 50+ games, there's a few gaps to address
GK - let's assume it's Chevalier in and Martinez out for now. A backup better than Olsen or Gauci also. We should have lots of cup games to offer a decent one - Sam Johnstone type level
DF - Not expecting any big investment at full back. Hoping Garcia and Maatsen kick on a lot more. Id keep Cash and Digne. Mings and Torres are staying. So that leaves RCB, Id be open to a change there and fit a better option to partner Torres. Need a backup/Lenglet type at RCB for the cups too either way.
MF - A lot depends on Kamara's situation. Hope Ramsey stays and kicks on. McGinn, Tielemans are still key players, Onana, Barkley (most likely to go). Still seems light on RM/LM options. Rogers, Tielemans options at 10. Buendia and Bailey will move on. Then the curious case of Malen.
FW - Ollie Watkins + decent backup, maybe Malen I guess.
Yeah, can’t agree on any of those Bronte.Agree with all of this
If Tammy hadn’t played for us, there’s no way he’d be in the conversation. Yeah, he’d probably do alright at a lower mid table Premier League club, but that’s not what we’re aiming for.
Jack - similar really. Even if we got the old Jack back, which is very optimistic IMO - he’d cost an absolute fortune in wages and will have basically no resale value in 3 years time. A season on loan, maybe although I’m not sure it’d be sensible for us or him. But he’s not a long term solution to anything now.
Dougie - probably the best shout of the lot, but we’re reasonably well staffed in that position. I’d like him back, but I guess it’d come down to wages and transfer fee. It’s not a high enough priority position for us to break the bank on.
I have a feeling Barrenechea will be a PSR sacrificial lamb as selling him doesn't weaken us.
Yeah, can’t agree on any of those Bronte.
If Tammy hadn’t played for us, there’s no way he’d be in the conversation. Yeah, he’d probably do alright at a lower mid table Premier League club, but that’s not what we’re aiming for.
Jack - similar really. Even if we got the old Jack back, which is very optimistic IMO - he’d cost an absolute fortune in wages and will have basically no resale value in 3 years time. A season on loan, maybe although I’m not sure it’d be sensible for us or him. But he’s not a long term solution to anything now.
Dougie - probably the best shout of the lot, but we’re reasonably well staffed in that position. I’d like him back, but I guess it’d come down to wages and transfer fee. It’s not a high enough priority position for us to break the bank on.
Indeed, Bronte if you don’t know it’s fine. I couldn’t reel off lists of players, but don’t imply these players are no brainers just because it’s the extent of your knowledge. Doug, in the right circumstances, I’d be happy enough with. He’s still young, and was part of our best side in recent years. The other two I just don’t see it.
Unai is pretty methodical and specific, which I doubt suits him.
Just heard on Talksport that Marcus Rashford off to Barca on loan.
Unai is pretty methodical and specific, which I doubt suits him.
He's followed the precise instructions of every manager he's played for, pretty much to the letter from what I can see.
Get the band back together this summer,
- Tammy (Ollie's backup, handy for Europa and cup
football if nothing else, got a few goals for Milan near end of season)
- Grealish (compete with likes of Rogers and Ramsey, better tactical fit than Asensio)
- Luiz (Barkley off and ideally Onana, perfect fit for football, enables Tielemans to play further forward if/when required)
All three will have their current clubs desperate to sell them or some kind of PSR friendly deals.
Chevalier and Bade - for Martinez and Konsa (yes I know I'm his biggest critic but if Emery continues to back Torres we need a different option).
No sign of Kamara',s new contract yet - how good is Gomez at Wolves? Always looks decent the handful of times I've seen them usually against Villa)
Would keep Digne and let him run down his contract if required. He's solid.
Because he hasn’t played well since the treble year. Unai is pretty methodical and specific, which I doubt suits him. Also he hasn’t exactly lived the lifestyle of one who can play at the absolute elite level deep into his career.
He has tremendous talent, but I think there’s far too much stacked against it. Also what we need badly is more pace out wide, he doesn’t do that.
We should reopen the coal mines and bring back wooden teeth while we're at it.
The only reason Jack is a no is his wages. Other than that, he’d be great for us. He’s a proper talent.
But the wages…
I know. He was a ******.
Emery i doubt will sign players he already showed the door , eg Luiz
🚨 Aston Villa wants to sign Gabriel Sara, a deal valued at €20m. It would not be an exchange, but two very separate operations.
@Santi_J_FM
🚨 NEW: Galatasaray have exchanged information with Aston Villa regarding Emi Martínez & Lucas Digne — the idea is to offer between €26/27m for the duo. @Santi_J_FM
This is what we did on several occasions last year in terms of swap deals but separated to make them look like separate, individual deals. I can’t see Martinez and Digne going for less than 35 to 40 mil, sterling not euros.
News now is full of doom and gloom. Click bait at its best.
We're not going to sell a French international left back for £5m.
Can see the appeal of them. Champs league every year and good chance of domestic trophies, plus great city. Is Sara any good? Never heard of him.
We're not going to sell a French international left back for £5m.
Depends how desperate we are.
I can't wait for July 1st so all the bullshit low-balling click-bait is done.
I can't wait for July 1st so all the bullshit low-balling click-bait is done.
Errrrr I am not sure that happens does it ??
I can't wait for July 1st so all the bullshit low-balling click-bait is done.
Errrrr I am not sure that happens does it ??
I'm feeling optimistic this morning and hoping that everyone will realise that the idea that we're struggling with PSR is based on nothing.
No they’ll just start on our next financial year crisis. Is it just us that gets this shit? It can’t be surely?
Enzo looks like one i think we will try profit from. Would like to have seen him given a chance tbh
🚨 NEW: Enzo Barrenechea is one of Real Betis’ preferred options to replace Johnny Cardoso — he is open to negotiations, Aston Villa are open to negotiations.
@alvaritomfs
Enzo looks like one i think we will try profit from. Would like to have seen him given a chance tbh
Needs must.
Enzo looks like one i think we will try profit from. Would like to have seen him given a chance tbh
Needs must.
We'll be looking to bring down the age of the squad & by default the wages. Also the fringe players who didn't contribute much. This will be Martinez, Digne, Bailey & those who were loaned out.
Those coming in will potentially be around for 7-8 years & will hopefully go up in value. Next season it'll be Mings & McGinn. Hopefully we can see some of the youth squad coming through as first team regulars. This would allow us more freedom to recruit key positions with proven players.
Digne won't be going for as much as that.
🚨 NEW: Enzo Barrenechea is one of Real Betis’ preferred options to replace Johnny Cardoso — he is open to negotiations, Aston Villa are open to negotiations.
@alvaritomfs
It comes down to this..::is he going to oust Tielemans, Kamara or Onana….no….also unlikely Barkley as he’s relatively cheap in wages ( I’m summising)
Good player, but I don't think he's mobile enough for the Premier League.
We'll be looking to bring down the age of the squad & by default the wages. Also the fringe players who didn't contribute much. This will be Martinez, Digne, Bailey & those who were loaned out.
Those coming in will potentially be around for 7-8 years & will hopefully go up in value. Next season it'll be Mings & McGinn. Hopefully we can see some of the youth squad coming through as first team regulars. This would allow us more freedom to recruit key positions with proven players.
Martinez and Digne didn’t contribute much….what post are you on??
🚨 NEW: Enzo Barrenechea is one of Real Betis’ preferred options to replace Johnny Cardoso — he is open to negotiations, Aston Villa are open to negotiations.Well, if we're really after the young Betis winger Rodrigues I expect both clubs can come to some mutually agreeable deal which will alleviate any potential PSR issues.
@alvaritomfs
Louie Barry, Barranechea and KKH out this week. Financial doom mongering ended and 5 players in on the strength of Martinez and Digne sales. Already got a CB and attacker coming in. Johnathan David arrives along with Chevalier and an as yet unnamed RB. That's my summer sorted I'll see you all on opening day.
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
I was in Napoli today, I didn’t see him.Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
I heard Napoli.
https://thehardtackle.com/transfer-news/2025/06/26/aston-villa-in-talks-to-sign-gabriel-sara/
Not exactly looking in tip top condition.
Arsenal closing in on that Cristhian Mosquera (CB) we were mildly linked with from ValenciaThats a shame he looks decent from clips ive seen
I don't think we are going to buy anyone and are just going to go with what we have got for another season.
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
Who are we selling Cameron Archer to this season?
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
Wouldn't be devastated. Can't shake the thought that he was poor in both legs against us.
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
Wouldn't be devastated. Can't shake the thought that he was poor in both legs against us.
It's almost as if he might have played in other football matches over the last few years.
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
Wouldn't be devastated. Can't shake the thought that he was poor in both legs against us.
It's almost as if he might have played in other football matches over the last few years.
He's been rubbish whenever I've seen him.
Who are we selling Cameron Archer to this season?
Ourselves.
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
Wouldn't be devastated. Can't shake the thought that he was poor in both legs against us.
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.
Wouldn't be devastated. Can't shake the thought that he was poor in both legs against us.
This current squad i think would do ok but we still have that glaring issue we can't defend and no rash/asensio. Think we would finish 9th or 10th in that scenario
Como finalising deal for Jesus Rodriguez
Mate of mine who follows Rangers are suggesting we are in for Belgian midfielder Raskin for about £20m. I told him I’d not heard that at all but was being talked about amongst their fans.
Berwick?Mate of mine who follows Rangers are suggesting we are in for Belgian midfielder Raskin for about £20m. I told him I’d not heard that at all but was being talked about amongst their fans.
Queens Park?
Rumour is that Jonathan David is going to Juventus.Looking at their performance tonight they need Kortney Hause not Jonathan David.
Mate of mine who follows Rangers are suggesting we are in for Belgian midfielder Raskin for about £20m. I told him I’d not heard that at all but was being talked about amongst their fans.
Mate of mine who follows Rangers are suggesting we are in for Belgian midfielder Raskin for about £20m. I told him I’d not heard that at all but was being talked about amongst their fans.
Surely once Chucky 3 dies, we get a discount on all signings from the Billy Boys? Might be worth waiting just in case.Chucky 3?
Surely once Chucky 3 dies, we get a discount on all signings from the Billy Boys? Might be worth waiting just in case.Chucky 3?
Mate of mine who follows Rangers are suggesting we are in for Belgian midfielder Raskin for about £20m. I told him I’d not heard that at all but was being talked about amongst their fans.
Well we have two of the Belgian midfield so may as well complete the set
🚨 Hull City are having talks with Aston Villa over a move to sign Louie Barry on a permanent deal.Hull are unlikely to agree to have their pants pulled as happened with Philogene-Bidace.
@kippaxvilla
🚨 Hull City are having talks with Aston Villa over a move to sign Louie Barry on a permanent deal.Hull are unlikely to agree to have their pants pulled as happened with Philogene-Bidace.
@kippaxvilla
Aston Villa hold talks to sign PepeCheap, I say. 28 is almost approaching “best before” date for a winger.
Cheap or bargain?
🚨🇦🇷 Chelsea are not among clubs in active talks to sign Emiliano ‘Dibu’ Martínez this summer.
No approach or talks as Chelsea respect Martínez but their focus is on different positions.
Douglas Luiz being linked with Leeds. Surely he can do better than that?
Douglas Luiz being linked with Leeds. Surely he can do better than that?
Aston Villa hold talks to sign PepeCheap, I say. 28 is almost approaching “best before” date for a winger.
Cheap or bargain?
He has hardly done enough away from us to justify a better move has he?
Unless he's killed someone, he deserves better than Leeds. Even then, it would probably still be harsh for a first offence.
Unless he's killed someone, he deserves better than Leeds. Even then, it would probably still be harsh for a first offence.
Would he deserve better than Leeds if he had been lead singer of, for example, U2 for the last few decades?
He watched the video of his lass playing for her country, getting murdered by 14 year old Swiss boys and figured he needs to get away fast. Man B, Leeds being a step up from Juventus and whatever that relationship looks like.
Mbuemo saying he will go to United this summer if he goes anywhere. Just drives home the ridiculous nature of PSR that such a poor club is attractive because they can pay wages that few others can touch.
Mbuemo saying he will go to United this summer if he goes anywhere. Just drives home the ridiculous nature of PSR that such a poor club is attractive because they can pay wages that few others can touch.
TBF to them - and I don't like being fair to Man United - they're in a mess at the moment, but they're one of the ten biggest clubs in the world, and that lustre remains.
He watched the video of his lass playing for her country, getting murdered by 14 year old Swiss boys and figured he needs to get away fast. Man B, Leeds being a step up from Juventus and whatever that relationship looks like.
Your obsession with this is somewhat odd.
If Digne goes could Mings move to left back and share that position with Maatsen especially when we need a more defensive left back as opposed to the attacking wingback that Maatsen is?
He watched the video of his lass playing for her country, getting murdered by 14 year old Swiss boys and figured he needs to get away fast. Man B, Leeds being a step up from Juventus and whatever that relationship looks like.
Your obsession with this is somewhat odd.
What obsession? That I have made a massive two posts about the game. That’s obsession for you?
I suggested it earlier in the thread that PSR woes were no where near the level the media was suggesting.
I'd be amazed if it was more than 15-20 million based on recent sales. If we need funds on the books I can see us renaming Villa
Park tomorrow for a few years to bridge the gap. Or sell off Barry and one or two of the other kids but I cant see us leaving it to this last minute if it was as dire as the media would have us believe.
He watched the video of his lass playing for her country, getting murdered by 14 year old Swiss boys and figured he needs to get away fast. Man B, Leeds being a step up from Juventus and whatever that relationship looks like.
Your obsession with this is somewhat odd.
What obsession? That I have made a massive two posts about the game. That’s obsession for you?
When posted on two different threads, and the posts so very contrived, that's kind of how it might seem.
It's going to be hilarious amongst the noses on the 2nd if we haven't had to sell anyone.
My brother in law is a right twat of a nose, always trying to snipe. Yesterday he was telling me how we needed to raise 60-80 million and Rogers was going along with emi because we are falling apart.
I just laughed at him and walked away.
It's going to be hilarious amongst the noses on the 2nd if we haven't had to sell anyone.
My brother in law is a right twat of a nose, always trying to snipe. Yesterday he was telling me how we needed to raise 60-80 million and Rogers was going along with emi because we are falling apart.
I just laughed at him and walked away.
Amazing how they know more than anyone how our finances work? Seems they are all capable of forensically reviewing our numbers but for years only one guy had the scruples to get anywhere on their own numbers.
Sounds a proper bell end
It's going to be hilarious amongst the noses on the 2nd if we haven't had to sell anyone.
My brother in law is a right twat of a nose, always trying to snipe. Yesterday he was telling me how we needed to raise 60-80 million and Rogers was going along with emi because we are falling apart.
I just laughed at him and walked away.
Amazing how they know more than anyone how our finances work? Seems they are all capable of forensically reviewing our numbers but for years only one guy had the scruples to get anywhere on their own numbers.
Sounds a proper bell end
You should know the score by now. If you want to know anything about the Villa; our finances, ground redevelopment, transfer strategy, commercial plans, what our supporters had for breakfast, ask a Nose.
Surely gauci is good enough to be number 2 next season now? I mean olsen was terrible gauci cant be as bad as him.
I have sneaky feeling emi is staying or would have been sold by now
If the deadline passes tuesday and emi still here why would we sell?
Surely gauci is good enough to be number 2 next season now? I mean olsen was terrible gauci cant be as bad as him.
I have sneaky feeling emi is staying or would have been sold by now
If the deadline passes tuesday and emi still here why would we sell?
He wasn’t terrible, and whilst I wouldn’t have wanted Olsen playing a run of games have I seen anything in Gauci to say he could do it well? Nope. He might be able to, but nailed on number 2 is a big gamble.
It's going to be hilarious amongst the noses on the 2nd if we haven't had to sell anyone.I am told Tom Wagner being the richest man in the universe is going to “save us” by paying £50M for last seasons kit stock. Which he will ceremonially burn just before the first spade is struck for bestest ever stadium in the whole wide world. And thereafter we’ll be forever in their debt.
My brother in law is a right twat of a nose, always trying to snipe. Yesterday he was telling me how we needed to raise 60-80 million and Rogers was going along with emi because we are falling apart.
I just laughed at him and walked away.
Jackson, most likely.
On the keeper thing, I know it's only one game, but as things stand, whether Martinez stays or goes, we're opening the season against a top 4 rival with Gaucci in goals. Dropping points against rivals and goal difference were two things that kept us out of the CL. I'd hope we have someone else in by the time the season starts.
Jackson's shite. Kaden is Erdington, useful for homegrown requirement and got plenty of potential. Do not sell him to that football farm in Surrey.
On the keeper thing, I know it's only one game, but as things stand, whether Martinez stays or goes, we're opening the season against a top 4 rival with Gaucci in goals. Dropping points against rivals and goal difference were two things that kept us out of the CL. I'd hope we have someone else in by the time the season starts.
You've already decided we are going to lose because Gaucci might play?
On the keeper thing, I know it's only one game, but as things stand, whether Martinez stays or goes, we're opening the season against a top 4 rival with Gaucci in goals. Dropping points against rivals and goal difference were two things that kept us out of the CL. I'd hope we have someone else in by the time the season starts.
You've already decided we are going to lose because Gaucci might play?
Against Newcastle, yes.
Louie Barry next possibly? Hull owners apparently said on SSN they’ve been talking to Villa.
Should get at least twice what we're getting for KKH for Barry.
On the keeper thing, I know it's only one game, but as things stand, whether Martinez stays or goes, we're opening the season against a top 4 rival with Gaucci in goals. Dropping points against rivals and goal difference were two things that kept us out of the CL. I'd hope we have someone else in by the time the season starts.
You've already decided we are going to lose because Gaucci might play?
Against Newcastle, yes.
Hmm, ok.
I don't think if Gauuci is in goal for the first game means we are necessarily going to lose. We put 4 past them last time we played against them.
KKH to Cov, £3.5m.
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
Martinez out, replaced by Chevalier on half wages would help.
Digne out, and someone coming in to back up Maatsen would help.
Finding clubs to take Coutinho and Dendoncker would help.
Would not be popular, but Watkins is on a big wedge and is about to hit 30. Last chance to make big money on him.
You can see from the rumours what the club are hoping to do.
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
Martinez out, replaced by Chevalier on half wages would help.
Digne out, and someone coming in to back up Maatsen would help.
Finding clubs to take Coutinho and Dendoncker would help.
Would not be popular, but Watkins is on a big wedge and is about to hit 30. Last chance to make big money on him.
You can see from the rumours what the club are hoping to do.
Illing-Junior could be the back up to Maatsen.
Just coming off a successful U20’s Euros in which, by all accounts, he did very well
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
I don’t think we need to reduce the wage bill - just its ratio to turnover.
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
Martinez out, replaced by Chevalier on half wages would help.
Digne out, and someone coming in to back up Maatsen would help.
Finding clubs to take Coutinho and Dendoncker would help.
Would not be popular, but Watkins is on a big wedge and is about to hit 30. Last chance to make big money on him.
You can see from the rumours what the club are hoping to do.
Illing-Junior could be the back up to Maatsen.
Just coming off a successful U20’s Euros in which, by all accounts, he did very well
He didn’t when I watched him, he was awful. (3-4 times). But he must have something to be playing for England
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!I don’t think we need to reduce the wage bill - just its ratio to turnover.
Which will happen if you increase turnover by 25% approx.
So at least we don’t need to sell players for FFP reasons, but now we must reduce the wage bill by 10% or so, (whilst improving the squad). Over to you Monchi and co!
Martinez out, replaced by Chevalier on half wages would help.
Digne out, and someone coming in to back up Maatsen would help.
Finding clubs to take Coutinho and Dendoncker would help.
Would not be popular, but Watkins is on a big wedge and is about to hit 30. Last chance to make big money on him.
You can see from the rumours what the club are hoping to do.
Illing-Junior could be the back up to Maatsen.
Just coming off a successful U20’s Euros in which, by all accounts, he did very well
He didn’t when I watched him, he was awful. (3-4 times). But he must have something to be playing for England
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
@AVFCOfficial
Aston Villa would like to thank Robin Olsen and Kortney Hause following the expiration of their contracts, as well as our loan players as they return to their respective parent clubs.
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
Martinez and Digne would sort it.
@AVFCOfficialI take it that's official bye bye for Rashford, Asensio and Disasi.
Aston Villa would like to thank Robin Olsen and Kortney Hause following the expiration of their contracts, as well as our loan players as they return to their respective parent clubs.
I@AVFCOfficialI take it that's official bye bye for Rashford, Asensio and Disasi.
Aston Villa would like to thank Robin Olsen and Kortney Hause following the expiration of their contracts, as well as our loan players as they return to their respective parent clubs.
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
Martinez and Digne would sort it.
Romano
🚨🛑 Aston Villa confirm they’re not activating £40m buy option clause for Marcus Rashford.
Rashford returns to Manchester United… and £40m price remains available for any club interested in Marcus this summer.
I@AVFCOfficialI take it that's official bye bye for Rashford, Asensio and Disasi.
Aston Villa would like to thank Robin Olsen and Kortney Hause following the expiration of their contracts, as well as our loan players as they return to their respective parent clubs.
It is, but only because we had agreed to loan them until June 30th.
It doesn't mean that they can't come back again in a day, a week or a month.
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
🚨NEW: Ollie Watkins is on Manchester United’s list of potential centre-forward options in the event Rasmus Højlund leaves the club.
@lauriewhitwell
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
Are you sure it’s costs and not the wages to revenue ratio that has got to be reduced by 10%?
Because UEFA don’t care about costs in isolation or they’d have something to say about PSG & Real Madrid.
The $ame reason Martinez would go there.
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
Are you sure it’s costs and not the wages to revenue ratio that has got to be reduced by 10%?
Because UEFA don’t care about costs in isolation or they’d have something to say about PSG & Real Madrid.
The statement I think said costs but I think it might just be awkwardly worded and mean wage costs.
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
Martinez and Digne would sort it.
Sure Buendia, Dendoncker, Moreno and maybe Bailey would more than sort it also…hopefully on the first three in particular
If we can terminate coutinhos contract get buendia bailey and dendonker off the books i think that massively helps us.
Obviously if a big name player like emi goes then the wage bill looks a lot healthier
Im pretty sure digne will leave on a free next summer which will help on the wage side too
If we can terminate coutinhos contract get buendia bailey and dendonker off the books i think that massively helps us.
@AVFCOfficial
Aston Villa would like to thank Robin Olsen and Kortney Hause following the expiration of their contracts, as well as our loan players as they return to their respective parent clubs.
Asensio, thanks, but no thanks then?
If we can terminate coutinhos contract get buendia bailey and dendonker off the books i think that massively helps us.
Yeah, I agree, however worth noting, we can't just shift these players off the books and not replace them all, so they're not a total flushing of the wage bill.
🚨 NEW: Louie Barry is set to join Hull City on a permanent deal — fee around £3.5m, with Aston Villa inserting a substantial sell-on clause into contract.
🚨 NEW: Phillipe Coutinho’s termination with Aston Villa has been finalized.
@gabrielandrezo
The fact that we have agreed to reduce costs this summer by 10 percent still means biggy or biggies going out the door?
Are you sure it’s costs and not the wages to revenue ratio that has got to be reduced by 10%?
Because UEFA don’t care about costs in isolation or they’d have something to say about PSG & Real Madrid.
The statement I think said costs but I think it might just be awkwardly worded and mean wage costs.
£3.5 million for Louie Barry is shite.
If we can terminate coutinhos contract get buendia bailey and dendonker off the books i think that massively helps us.
Yeah, I agree, however worth noting, we can't just shift these players off the books and not replace them all, so they're not a total flushing of the wage bill.
🚨 NEW: Louie Barry is set to join Hull City on a permanent deal — fee around £3.5m, with Aston Villa inserting a substantial sell-on clause into contract.
🚨 NEW: Phillipe Coutinho’s termination with Aston Villa has been finalized.
@gabrielandrezo
£3.5 million for Louie Barry is shite.
But miles closer to reality than some of the daft eight figure sums people were throwing around six months ago.
I wonder if our signings this summer will be 1 maybe 2 substantial ones and 2/3 more like the Turkish centre half? I know I am going against the tide here but I hate to see 9 substitutes all filled with first team players….i want to see 2/3 seats filled with young players be it from the academy or young players we’ve scouted who don’t come in on 100k a week to be squad fillers…
100% this, would imagine his injury record over last couple of years would be a red flag to some of the sides not wanting to invest the 3-4m£3.5 million for Louie Barry is shite.
But miles closer to reality than some of the daft eight figure sums people were throwing around six months ago.
If he'd stayed fit and done even half a decent job in the championship (around 5-6 goals) I think closer to £10m would've been reasonable. His injury means we need to push a lot of that value into resale instead, so 20-30% of his next sale seems fair all round.
When they went from 7 to 9 on the bench I'd have liked them to mandate 2 U21 players had to fill the extra spots.
7 subs is more than enough to have options and depth everywhere soon the extra spots could be better used for development of academy players.
I think the strength of our bench last season was a major plus point. Full of quality
£3.5 million for Louie Barry is shite.
But miles closer to reality than some of the daft eight figure sums people were throwing around six months ago.
🚨NEW: Ollie Watkins is on Manchester United’s list of potential centre-forward options in the event Rasmus Højlund leaves the club.I have Beyonce on my list of potential wife options in the event that Mrs Olaftab finally decides to kick me out.
@lauriewhitwell
£3.5 million for Louie Barry is shite.
But miles closer to reality than some of the daft eight figure sums people were throwing around six months ago.
If he'd stayed fit and done even half a decent job in the championship (around 5-6 goals) I think closer to £10m would've been reasonable. His injury means we need to push a lot of that value into resale instead, so 20-30% of his next sale seems fair all round.
So Man U want Martinez & Watkins if they can find mugs to take the shite, overpriced & overpaid Onana & Hojlund off their hands.
Wrexham would be a great landing spot for Barry.
And judging by the documentary, they know who he is and how good he is; as Stockport were one of their big rivals.
Cheer up, Peter.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/01/villa-announce-ebury-partnership/
Welcome Ebury.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/01/villa-announce-ebury-partnership/
Welcome Ebury.
Must confess, Ive no idea who they are. At first glance I thought we'd signed ex-England bowler John Emburey.
Anyway, it’s additional revenue I guess.
The press release reads like it was written by a vegetarian inspired AI programme.
A word salad of opaque nonsense.
Are we meant to hate Wrexham or are they the acceptable face of this Hollywood life?
Are we meant to hate Wrexham or are they the acceptable face of this Hollywood life?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/01/villa-announce-ebury-partnership/I presume they are not big enough to deal with our neighbour's wealth and huge global reach?
Welcome Ebury.
Ferran Torres linked again. £29m
Yeah, and I reckon Emery would make him a better version than the Man City / Barcelona version.
Are we meant to hate Wrexham or are they the acceptable face of this Hollywood life?
A handjob is all the butchery brings.
I swear we get linked with torres and frlox every window.
If they havent come yet they are likely not coming in future either
I swear we get linked with torres and frlox every window.
If they havent come yet they are likely not coming in future either
Friox?
Yeah, and I reckon Emery would make him a better version than the Man City / Barcelona version.
Absolutely, if Watkins were to go I reckon those 3 with Asensio back as a 10 would be a fantastic attack.
Yeah, and I reckon Emery would make him a better version than the Man City / Barcelona version.
Absolutely, if Watkins were to go I reckon those 3 with Asensio back as a 10 would be a fantastic attack.
Which would be the striker?
My limited knowledge of Torres is:
1. Guardiola saying he was the best finisher at the club (then playing him on the wing).
2. At Barca, he’s been in and out of the team but his output per minute is off the scale.
3. Was homesick whilst at City (as a kid)
4. Random memory of a manager talking about threesomes being normal for footballers whilst Torres was dating his daughter. Luis Enriquez?
I don’t remember watching him much, so unsure where he fits in our system.
Sheff united came in for Barry today also
Xapo my thigh xapo my thigh.
I wonder what it’s worth to us. Speculation by a bloke who sounds like he knows what he’s on about* on twitter (Book of Aegis) that it could be between £10/13m a year.* or best defensive combinations ;)
*It’s a high bar - don’t know if you’ve noticed but there are very few people I consider to ‘know what they're on about’ re: FFP etc.
I wonder what it’s worth to us. Speculation by a bloke who sounds like he knows what he’s on about* on twitter (Book of Aegis) that it could be between £10/13m a year.* or best defensive combinations ;)
*It’s a high bar - don’t know if you’ve noticed but there are very few people I consider to ‘know what they're on about’ re: FFP etc.
Are we meant to hate Wrexham or are they the acceptable face of this Hollywood life?
It will be interesting if Wrexham reach the Premier League and start giving the media's favourite 6 clubs a testing time on the pitch. Watford and Wimbledon were good news stories in the 1980s until they started beating Liverpool, Man United et al.
It will be interesting if Wrexham reach the Premier League and start giving the media's favourite 6 clubs a testing time on the pitch. Watford and Wimbledon were good news stories in the 1980s until they started beating Liverpool, Man United et al.
It will be interesting if Wrexham reach the Premier League and start giving the media's favourite 6 clubs a testing time on the pitch. Watford and Wimbledon were good news stories in the 1980s until they started beating Liverpool, Man United et al.
Wimbledon were not a good news story. They were a bunch of shit kicking cheats and bullies and I still fucking hate them.
It will be interesting if Wrexham reach the Premier League and start giving the media's favourite 6 clubs a testing time on the pitch. Watford and Wimbledon were good news stories in the 1980s until they started beating Liverpool, Man United et al.
Wimbledon were not a good news story. They were a bunch of shit kicking cheats and bullies and I still fucking hate them.
Same, always hated he way they played the game back then just thugs
I think it's time to give Rogers the 10 role, alternating with Tielemans, perhaps.Yeah, and I reckon Emery would make him a better version than the Man City / Barcelona version.Absolutely, if Watkins were to go I reckon those 3 with Asensio back as a 10 would be a fantastic attack.
I'm amazed that Liverpool haven't come for Konsa now that they've let Quansah go. Maybe we could go after Vin Dijk instead.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are in the best position to recruit Toulouse defender Jaydee Canvot (18).
@lequipe
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
I'd like us to buy Richard Osman. He'd add height.
it'd be a crime. You're just playing games with us.I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
I'd like us to buy Richard Osman. He'd add height.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are in the best position to recruit Toulouse defender Jaydee Canvot (18).
@lequipe
6'2"
Turns 19 in 4 weeks time.
20 games in Ligue 1 for Toulouse, who finished mid-table last season,conceded 43 in 34 games.
Capped at every level from U16 to U20s.
Looks like either another one to train up and sell on, although buying him for €20m/£17.35m reduces any potential profit.
Perhaps were looking to play him and Oczan together as a pair to bring in to replace Tyrone and Ezri season after next?
These young really promising signings, great, either they graduate to play in our team or we improve them elsewhere then sell them. I am all for that.
We do, however, need to be making some 'ready now' players over the next few weeks, so hopefully we have some deals advanced.
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
These young really promising signings, great, either they graduate to play in our team or we improve them elsewhere then sell them. I am all for that.
We do, however, need to be making some 'ready now' players over the next few weeks, so hopefully we have some deals advanced.
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
Rugged Island has the best over-75s.
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
I don't care what age the players are, as long as they're absolutely fabulous.
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
Was hoping we might have 1 or 2 in for pre season but seems abit unlikely at the moPre season is still 2 weeks away isntvit?
Was hoping we might have 1 or 2 in for pre season but seems abit unlikely at the mo
Was hoping we might have 1 or 2 in for pre season but seems abit unlikely at the moPre season is still 2 weeks away isntvit?
I'm bored of buying teenagers. Can we go the other way and get some over-40s in instead? There must be some experienced talent around the globe. Start on Craggy Island and go from there.
Is this a sales pitch for a contract eamonn?
The non internationals will be back in on Monday/Tuesday.Was hoping we might have 1 or 2 in for pre season but seems abit unlikely at the moPre season is still 2 weeks away isntvit?
Would anyone take Dominic Calvert Lewin on a free? If he could stay clear of injuries he’d be a very good back up for Ollie,
Would anyone take Dominic Calvert Lewin on a free? If he could stay clear of injuries he’d be a very good back up for Ollie,
If he stayed fit he'd be worth a chance. However, if he stayed fit, he'd have left Everton years ago. Sadly for him, he doesn't.Good player when/if fit, but he will want a decent wage as well, given this is his last big contract, can see him ending up at Newcastle as an Isak backup.
I'm not sure he's even decent, the 2 COVID seasons are the only time he's looked capable of being even a 1 in 3 striker.
For his all round game he's a decent targetman but that's all now the injuries have taken whatever pace he had.
It's reported we're back again for Semih Kılıçsoy. He had a brilliant season in 23/24 but off the boil in 24/25. Maybe he was really pissed off he never joined us last summer. I don't think we could go wrong with £13m for the 19 year old but of course it will never happen.14 goals in 59 appearances for his current club (1 in 6) isn't a great return, but he's young and still learning. Would he be better than if we were to give Wilson some games?
Injury prone, poor conversion rate, high wages....no thanks.
Injury prone, poor conversion rate, high wages....no thanks.
Also guilty of one of the worst misses of the year last season against us.
It's reported we're back again for Semih Kılıçsoy. He had a brilliant season in 23/24 but off the boil in 24/25. Maybe he was really pissed off he never joined us last summer. I don't think we could go wrong with £13m for the 19 year old but of course it will never happen.14 goals in 59 appearances for his current club (1 in 6) isn't a great return, but he's young and still learning. Would he be better than if we were to give Wilson some games?
It's reported we're back again for Semih Kılıçsoy. He had a brilliant season in 23/24 but off the boil in 24/25. Maybe he was really pissed off he never joined us last summer. I don't think we could go wrong with £13m for the 19 year old but of course it will never happen.14 goals in 59 appearances for his current club (1 in 6) isn't a great return, but he's young and still learning. Would he be better than if we were to give Wilson some games?
Looking at Transfermarkt, it appears a fair few of those games are as a sub and often on the LW. I'm not suggesting we sign him but that that alone might be misleading.
DCL is one of the worst footballers I've ever seen. He's right up there with that donkey at manure who's close to being shipped out.
I only made the 'error' to see if you'd notice, Paul.It's reported we're back again for Semih Kılıçsoy. He had a brilliant season in 23/24 but off the boil in 24/25. Maybe he was really pissed off he never joined us last summer. I don't think we could go wrong with £13m for the 19 year old but of course it will never happen.14 goals in 59 appearances for his current club (1 in 6) isn't a great return, but he's young and still learning. Would he be better than if we were to give Wilson some games?
Looking at Transfermarkt, it appears a fair few of those games are as a sub and often on the LW. I'm not suggesting we sign him but that that alone might be misleading.
Also it's 1 in 4 not 1 in 6and 1 in 4 isn't terrible for a teenager.
I like the look of him but my only concern is that, from his highlights, a lot of his finishes seem to be very close to the keeper and I do wonder if poor standards are making him look more effective than he is.
There's a player in Hoijland for sure.
There's a player in Hoijland for sure.
There's a player in Hoijland for sure.Shit! Quick, someone do the Heimlich maneuver on Hoijland ... he's swallowed a footballer!
I'm with Ozz, he could be a decent player but they overpaid to such a ridiculous degree that they created a situation where the pressure on him was completely over the top. £70m for a guy who was worth about a 3rd of that at the time.
Apparently Palace are in for Azzaz from Boro for £25m
Wonder if we put in a sell-on clause.
Great scrabble score, though - 32pts. Get that on a triple word score and you’re in the big time.Apparently Palace are in for Azzaz from Boro for £25m
Wonder if we put in a sell-on clause.
That seems like a lot. Presumably they're playing extra for the additional 'z'.
Only one Z in the (English version of the) game and you don't score points for blank tiles.
Just use your blank and have Adz instead.
Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
Yes, he’s swallowed Hojlund.There's a player in Hoijland for sure.Shit! Quick, someone do the Heimlich maneuver on Hoijland ... he's swallowed a footballer!
Only one Z in the (English version of the) game and you don't score points for blank tiles.
Just use your blank and have Adz instead.
Blank is worth 2 points isn’t it, irrespective of what letter you use it for, well it is in our house?
Only one Z in the (English version of the) game and you don't score points for blank tiles.
Just use your blank and have Adz instead.
Blank is worth 2 points isn’t it, irrespective of what letter you use it for, well it is in our house?
Zero in the official rules.
Adapted house rules are usually a good thing though - see also landing on Free Parking gets the fines money in Monopoly.
Also in the right game I don't mind a wraparound straight (Jack - Queen - King - Ace - Two) in cards.
Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
Fenerbahce have made a 15m euros (£12.9m) offer for Paris St-Germain forward Marco Asensio but the 29-year-old is waiting on other options to emerge, with AC Milan and Villarreal interested in the Spain international. (L'Equipe - in French)
Presume one of the other options would be us but surely there would have been some agreement prior to the loan ending, even if just verbal.
Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
Are you saying you are board with the thread?
There might be something in that - as essentially when players join we become on the hook for the wages but if we sign them at the end of August we save a couple of months!
Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
Are you saying you are board with the thread?
He wants a monopoly of posts about transfers.
Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
i think we need a bit of guess who we are signing at the moment
Are you saying you are board with the thread?
He wants a monopoly of posts about transfers.
He really needs to give us a Clue(do).
Weird that a player who looked so good at times were so on the fence about signing. I think Asensio would be a brilliant buy for the Europa and home games, but shouldn't be near the side away from home.
Weird that a player who looked so good at times were so on the fence about signing. I think Asensio would be a brilliant buy for the Europa and home games, but shouldn't be near the side away from home.
I think people would be a lot keener on him if his presence didn't take so much away from what Rogers brings.
Weird that a player who looked so good at times were so on the fence about signing. I think Asensio would be a brilliant buy for the Europa and home games, but shouldn't be near the side away from home.
I think people would be a lot keener on him if his presence didn't take so much away from what Rogers brings.
I think that's a simple one to solve, Rogers should be coming from the left for me. I don't think he's a 10, he's too careless on the ball and needs to drive at players from deeper. He's totally lost on the right though. Asensio and he should be able to fit together. We need to sign a proper right winger though to abolish this madness of Rogers looking lost out there.
Probably just worried that if we were to lose someone like Kamara or Tielemans we'd struggle to Connect 4 passes together.Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
Are you saying you are board with the thread?
He wants a monopoly of posts about transfers.
He really needs to give us a Clue(do).
Weird that a player who looked so good at times were so on the fence about signing. I think Asensio would be a brilliant buy for the Europa and home games, but shouldn't be near the side away from home.
Good luck to him. We didn't see that much of him, but we did get a few magic bits.
There's that, and also that he never really took games by the scruff of the neck. It sometimes looked like he was, especially early on when the goals were flying in, but in reality, he was far too often a spectator.Weird that a player who looked so good at times were so on the fence about signing. I think Asensio would be a brilliant buy for the Europa and home games, but shouldn't be near the side away from home.I think people would be a lot keener on him if his presence didn't take so much away from what Rogers brings.
What an almost complete waste of money he's been.
£17m fee and £27m in wages, plus the 6 months when he was on loan - another £3.5m
So that's £47.5m down the pan.
Cheers Steeeevie
Hull City given three window EFL transfer ban for failing to maintain payments. Hull had agreed £3.5m deal for Louie Barry but
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reported affordability concerns - #hcafc still owe #AVFC in loan fee & wages from 22yo's Jan loan.
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I can't see that Barry would have wanted to go there if they can't pay last season’s money, he might be wondering if he'll be getting paid regularly.
I can't see that Barry would have wanted to go there if they can't pay last season’s money, he might be wondering if he'll be getting paid regularly.
Plus he'd be living in Hull.
What an almost complete waste of money he's been.
£17m fee and £27m in wages, plus the 6 months when he was on loan - another £3.5m
So that's £47.5m down the pan.
Cheers Steeeevie
When we signed him, my recollection is that the vast majority on here were very happy. Wasn't there talk of "we've pulled their pants down" getting him for £17m when the agreed fee was €40m?
Bronte had his card marked as a Hamez Rodriguez fairly early in fairness. His controversial player match ratings meant most Heroes preferred to drink the kool-aid.
Im suprised bailey is still here. I was almost certain he would have been sold to the saudis by now
Just popped on the forum. Talk about scrabble in the transfer thread. Clearly nothing happening (logs off).
Are you saying you are board with the thread?
He wants a monopoly of posts about transfers.
He really needs to give us a Clue(do).
River Plate are interested in Aston Villa midfielder Enzo BarrenecheaHe is on La Liga wages at the moment. I reckon that is a good bit ahead of what they pay in Argentina. Unless he wants to go home of course
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So they have the cash?
Their record transfer fee paid is £10m. And I'm guessing that's very much at the lower end of what people would hope for if we were selling.
I can't see that Barry would have wanted to go there if they can't pay last season’s money, he might be wondering if he'll be getting paid regularly.
Plus he'd be living in Hull.
"From Hell, Hull, and Halifax,
Good Lord Deliver Us.”
River Plate are interested in Aston Villa midfielder Enzo BarrenecheaHe is on La Liga wages at the moment. I reckon that is a good bit ahead of what they pay in Argentina. Unless he wants to go home of course
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So they have the cash?
Could Malen nt play tucked in behind Watkins. Or just go get EzeEze is top drawer.
What if Rogers gets injured? The two of them have the ability to be flexible in positioning, they can have a breather when needed and we'll have two hugely talented players.Rogers, Tielemanns, Ramsey can all play 10.
I still want more pace though.
When has Ramsey played at 10?
When has Ramsey played at 10?
When has Ramsey played at 10?
He's a perfect 10.
He's a perfect 10.
When has Ramsey played at 10?His eagerness and readiness to receive, and his ability to move the ball on quickly, make him perfect for the role; as well as his experience in the U21's.
An interesting piece has popped up in The Athletic:Yeah, by alienating those players they (Man Utd) have pretty much made it so that they *have* to sell them, which has tanked their price to begin with. Nobody is going to think it’s a coup signing one of them. And their wages are so high that a load of clubs who might conceivably sign them - us being one - can’t afford their salary.
Man Utd have failed to sell Rashford, Sancho and Garnacho. It’s a mess of their own making
It basically wonders if ManU have shot themselves in the foot re trying to sell Rashford, Sancho and Antony and how their 'value' on Transfermarkt has dropped from £250m to £97m which might actually be a bit on the high side. It also discusses Garnacho and Malacia and how they might also be overpriced.
We can ho-ho-ho at Offshore Jim's predicament - but we might find that what we get for Bailey, Buendia, Moreno, Donck and Barkley if we move them on is less than we expect/wish for.
I suspect it’ll be a very quiet summer to be honest, particularly post the UEFA sanctions. If we ship some of the dead wood out and youngsters then we might get 1 or 2 in but I wouldn’t be expecting much more than that.
I suspect it’ll be a very quiet summer to be honest, particularly post the UEFA sanctions. If we ship some of the dead wood out and youngsters then we might get 1 or 2 in but I wouldn’t be expecting much more than that.
I suspect it’ll be a very quiet summer to be honest, particularly post the UEFA sanctions. If we ship some of the dead wood out and youngsters then we might get 1 or 2 in but I wouldn’t be expecting much more than that.
I suspect it’ll be a very quiet summer to be honest, particularly post the UEFA sanctions. If we ship some of the dead wood out and youngsters then we might get 1 or 2 in but I wouldn’t be expecting much more than that.
Being in a lesser European competition allows us to develop players. Our kids just won the treble and we may be able to sell off old heads and bring in young players full of potential. Then our coaches can work on fulfulling their potential.
I don't buy into the doom and gloom. We've had our cards dealt and we can work with what we've got.
I've kind of felt like we might have missed our chance, again, since the Wembley debacle. Don't think we will ever have such a strong squad again, the rules are in place to stop us doing so. Nothing that has happened since has changed my mind.This is how I see it too. Last season was phenomenal and a quite a ride.
I've kind of felt like we might have missed our chance, again, since the Wembley debacle. Don't think we will ever have such a strong squad again, the rules are in place to stop us doing so. Nothing that has happened since has changed my mind.This is how I see it too. Last season was phenomenal and a quite a ride.
I can’t see us having a season like that again for a very long time, sadly.
I've kind of felt like we might have missed our chance, again, since the Wembley debacle. Don't think we will ever have such a strong squad again, the rules are in place to stop us doing so. Nothing that has happened since has changed my mind.This is how I see it too. Last season was phenomenal and a quite a ride.
I can’t see us having a season like that again for a very long time, sadly.
There's a lot of negativity on here, which I get but disagree with.being in the Europa League gives us two shots at getting into the Champions League too
Re: us being a midtable side without the loaned players because that's where we were January. That doesn't account for the amount of points we dropped from having lower energy levels after CL games or having a spell in the season where we were having to cobble a defence together. With that run-in we didn't just have the loan players but we got a lot of players healthy again and then rotated with greater effect to not risk anyone.
We couldn't bring anyone in before Tuesday because it would have gone into our accounts and fucked up our PSR. We were probably awaiting Uefa's decision too. We'll have plans in place for the different scenarios but it will take a while before we see the outcomes.
We've either got to do some clever, strategic moves (which we're capable of doing these days) or we act in a way where we know the actions Uefa will take but we're prepared to accept them.
Being in a lesser European competition allows us to develop players. Our kids just won the treble and we may be able to sell off old heads and bring in young players full of potential. Then our coaches can work on fulfulling their potential.
I don't buy into the doom and gloom. We've had our cards dealt and we can work with what we've got.
Trying to get rid of our dead wood (Dendoncker, Buendia etc..) is going to prove difficult- who else is going to pay Dendoncker £90k a week??
To be fair, the current regime gave Buendia a small contract extension because we thought he was going to Leverkusen and they would buy him, so we are stuck with him for another season.
To be fair, the current regime gave Buendia a small contract extension because we thought he was going to Leverkusen and they would buy him, so we are stuck with him for another season.
Isn't it far more likely that we sell him this summer and will probably get a few more million that we would have had we not stuck an extra year on his deal?
To be fair, the current regime gave Buendia a small contract extension because we thought he was going to Leverkusen and they would buy him, so we are stuck with him for another season.
Isn't it far more likely that we sell him this summer and will probably get a few more million that we would have had we not stuck an extra year on his deal?
So it proves to be a wiser move than people are saying then Dave? Buendia was a Smith purchase, not a Gerrard purchase. Dendonker, I get, bloody useless.
To be fair, the current regime gave Buendia a small contract extension because we thought he was going to Leverkusen and they would buy him, so we are stuck with him for another season.
Isn't it far more likely that we sell him this summer and will probably get a few more million that we would have had we not stuck an extra year on his deal?
So it proves to be a wiser move than people are saying then Dave? Buendia was a Smith purchase, not a Gerrard purchase. Dendonker, I get, bloody useless.
I'd not seen anyone suggesting it was a bad idea until your post.
We're going to need Emery to continue performing a few miracles for the next 2-3 seasons. We can maintain performance levels, achieve regular European football & perhaps win a trophy. If we over perform we might see Champions League football again. I wouldn't underestimate what Emery & his team could deliver.If Emery is here for another 3 years that would be a good bit longer than he has spent at any other club. I hope I am miles of it, but if this coming season is his last with us, it would fit with the overall trajectory of his career.
We're ahead of where we would have believed a few years ago. Evven the gamble of bringing in Rashford & Ascencio would have delivered Champions League football again but for a refereeing decision.
A few of these young signings & U21 players need to turn into first team players. Monchi needs to find a few gems.
But above all, we need to address the mental block that seems to turn us to shite when we're on the verge of achieving something.
While I fully accept there is a lot of the window to go, based on the players who are not here from last season, that we might still have to sell a key player or two for financial reasons and what our immediate competition for top 4 or 5 have done or are doing we are as it stands quite a bit behind. Gyökeres to Arsenal could be a massive signing for them. They have invested heavily this summer, along with Liverpool, Man City and Chelsea. Emery may indeed need to pull magic bunnies out of his arse next season.
I was genuinely excited when Buendia returned from injury last autumn. He’d had a really good preseason the year before and I thought he’d add something extra. It hasn’t worked out but it’s been no disaster. Let’s take £10m and move on
We're going to need Emery to continue performing a few miracles for the next 2-3 seasons. We can maintain performance levels, achieve regular European football & perhaps win a trophy. If we over perform we might see Champions League football again. I wouldn't underestimate what Emery & his team could deliver.If Emery is here for another 3 years that would be a good bit longer than he has spent at any other club. I hope I am miles of it, but if this coming season is his last with us, it would fit with the overall trajectory of his career.
We're ahead of where we would have believed a few years ago. Evven the gamble of bringing in Rashford & Ascencio would have delivered Champions League football again but for a refereeing decision.
A few of these young signings & U21 players need to turn into first team players. Monchi needs to find a few gems.
But above all, we need to address the mental block that seems to turn us to shite when we're on the verge of achieving something.
Just to add to the overall gloom…
We're going to need Emery to continue performing a few miracles for the next 2-3 seasons. We can maintain performance levels, achieve regular European football & perhaps win a trophy. If we over perform we might see Champions League football again. I wouldn't underestimate what Emery & his team could deliver.If Emery is here for another 3 years that would be a good bit longer than he has spent at any other club. I hope I am miles of it, but if this coming season is his last with us, it would fit with the overall trajectory of his career.
We're ahead of where we would have believed a few years ago. Evven the gamble of bringing in Rashford & Ascencio would have delivered Champions League football again but for a refereeing decision.
A few of these young signings & U21 players need to turn into first team players. Monchi needs to find a few gems.
But above all, we need to address the mental block that seems to turn us to shite when we're on the verge of achieving something.
Just to add to the overall gloom…
The potential problem I see is if we are constantly held back year after year, by the regulations or whatever, from being truly competitive Uni's patience may run out if something comes along where he feels he can compete for the top prizes.
But above all, we need to address the mental block that seems to turn us to shite when we're on the verge of achieving something.
We're going to need Emery to continue performing a few miracles for the next 2-3 seasons. We can maintain performance levels, achieve regular European football & perhaps win a trophy. If we over perform we might see Champions League football again. I wouldn't underestimate what Emery & his team could deliver.
We're ahead of where we would have believed a few years ago. Evven the gamble of bringing in Rashford & Ascencio would have delivered Champions League football again but for a refereeing decision.
It was all going so well as well.
It was all going so well as well.
I'm not sure there's any need for such pessimism.
It was all going so well as well.The last 2 seasons we should have lifted some silverware . Massive opportunities spurned.
You could also look at the last two seasons as part of our upward journey under the manager.It was all going so well as well.The last 2 seasons we should have lifted some silverware . Massive opportunities spurned.
bloody hell guys 3rd season in a row in Europe , a great manager fantastic owners , enjoy 😳😊
Next year we’ll be millionaires Rodney, I tell ya!!
I am pretty sure we will win something this year.
Probably the Europa League* or the FA Cup**
* So long as we don't get drawn against Palace
** So long as we don't get drawn against Palace
I wonder if we might actually see little to no movement on the ins front this season whilst we try and get the squad cost thing sorted. Particularly with us being in the Europa cup. Then go bigger next summer. That would also coincide with the really bad year being off the books in the rolling 3 years period for the PSR thing.
I wonder if we might actually see little to no movement on the ins front this season whilst we try and get the squad cost thing sorted. Particularly with us being in the Europa cup. Then go bigger next summer. That would also coincide with the really bad year being off the books in the rolling 3 years period for the PSR thing.Be looking at a 7-12th type finish , possibly lower depending on injuries etc .
I wonder if we might actually see little to no movement on the ins front this season whilst we try and get the squad cost thing sorted. Particularly with us being in the Europa cup. Then go bigger next summer. That would also coincide with the really bad year being off the books in the rolling 3 years period for the PSR thing.
If we did do that we’d struggle a lot. Worth remembering Asensio and Rashford played a big part in our form in the second half of the season.
I think 2-3 a smart young player signings plus a loan would see us top 6 and going a long way in the Europa. Right now we have a very high level keeper, 3 very good centre halves, good quality left backs, some right backs, a very decent midfield unit, and a well rested Watkins. Add a couple of tricky, pacey forwards and a loan or 2 and we'll be challenging up there.Agree . That's 7 or 8 players in the next few weeks. Hopefully it happens.
I think 2-3 a smart young player signings plus a loan would see us top 6 and going a long way in the Europa. Right now we have a very high level keeper, 3 very good centre halves, good quality left backs, some right backs, a very decent midfield unit, and a well rested Watkins. Add a couple of tricky, pacey forwards and a loan or 2 and we'll be challenging up there.Agree . That's 7 or 8 players in the next few weeks. Hopefully it happens.
I wonder if we might actually see little to no movement on the ins front this season whilst we try and get the squad cost thing sorted. Particularly with us being in the Europa cup. Then go bigger next summer. That would also coincide with the really bad year being off the books in the rolling 3 years period for the PSR thing.
If we did do that we’d struggle a lot. Worth remembering Asensio and Rashford played a big part in our form in the second half of the season.
Agree that we won’t see much movement this year. Wouldn’t mind a cheeky loan for Jack though
Agree that we won’t see much movement this year. Wouldn’t mind a cheeky loan for Jack though
Nope. Given our problems financially, why would we spend that much money on someone who would be ineffective?
Our signings won’t be what we would have done had we made the CL. I think we might be a lot like Newcastle who didn’t really do much at all last summer, kept their core together and just improved overall by keeping it steady. We will have to sell someone key because of wages but I think our overall net spend might be zero or just a little over. Bring through some of the key young players and add a smart signing here or there to add to what we have. Nothing dramatic. Onana’s record signing mark is safe for this summer.
Based on what I think we will achieve a top 6/7 finish and winning the Europa might be our path back to the CL.
Our signings won’t be what we would have done had we made the CL. I think we might be a lot like Newcastle who didn’t really do much at all last summer, kept their core together and just improved overall by keeping it steady. We will have to sell someone key because of wages but I think our overall net spend might be zero or just a little over. Bring through some of the key young players and add a smart signing here or there to add to what we have. Nothing dramatic. Onana’s record signing mark is safe for this summer.
Based on what I think we will achieve a top 6/7 finish and winning the Europa might be our path back to the CL.
If we want to register them for Europe our net spend has to be below zero.
Even then, we would presumably have to sell someone because their signing on fees would take us into the red.
I think 2-3 a smart young player signings plus a loan would see us top 6 and going a long way in the Europa. Right now we have a very high level keeper, 3 very good centre halves, good quality left backs, some right backs, a very decent midfield unit, and a well rested Watkins. Add a couple of tricky, pacey forwards and a loan or 2 and we'll be challenging up there.Agree . That's 7 or 8 players in the next few weeks. Hopefully it happens.
If you're expecting us to add 7-8 from our current position, I'd advise you to prepare for disappointment.
We'll bring in (either permanently or on loan) a goalkeeper, a centre-back, a forward and replacements for anyone who leaves from the current lot.
7-8 would be bonkers.
We should be targeted and bring in a max of 4 (balanced by outgoings). The squad does need augmentation, but not major surgery.
Even then, we would presumably have to sell someone because their signing on fees would take us into the red.
Even then, we would presumably have to sell someone because their signing on fees would take us into the red.
Presumably it doesn't stop us being clever with loans though, assuming the other club is amenable to it?
"Lille, rather than accepting £30m for Lucas Chevalier this summer, will you loan him to us for the season with an obligation for us to buy him for £35m on July 1st 2026?"
Such obvious taking the piss would probably see harsher penalties in future though.
Even then, we would presumably have to sell someone because their signing on fees would take us into the red.
Presumably it doesn't stop us being clever with loans though, assuming the other club is amenable to it?
"Lille, rather than accepting £30m for Lucas Chevalier this summer, will you loan him to us for the season with an obligation for us to buy him for £35m on July 1st 2026?"
Such obvious taking the piss would probably see harsher penalties in future though.
I still reckon we'll sign one of Asensio or Rashford on a season long loan, last few days of the window.
I still reckon we'll sign one of Asensio or Rashford on a season long loan, last few days of the window.We are not in that market.
I still reckon we'll sign one of Asensio or Rashford on a season long loan, last few days of the window.We are not in that market.
I still reckon we'll sign one of Asensio or Rashford on a season long loan, last few days of the window.
Isn't that basically what Arsenal did with Raya?
7-8 would be bonkers.
We should be targeted and bring in a max of 4 (balanced by outgoings). The squad does need augmentation, but not major surgery.
7-8 would be bonkers.
We should be targeted and bring in a max of 4 (balanced by outgoings). The squad does need augmentation, but not major surgery.
No sub keeper, no backup RCB, no cover for Kamara, no cover for Watkins - that's a big gap looking ahead to a 50+ game season, kicking off in about 5 weeks. The drop off from likes of Tielemans to Barkley is huge too. Garcia has a lot of ground to make up on Cash. Strength in depth is light enough bar LB and LCB.
Deadwood and the PSR patsys from last summer move on, Bailey must be a cert to leave too, leaves some wiggle room on wage bill but not as much as we think. We still end up paying the most of the Donk's wage elsewhere for example. Going to have to be very creative in transfer market, picking up players their clubs are keen to dump and more Everton/Chelsea/Juve deals.
7-8 would be bonkers.
We should be targeted and bring in a max of 4 (balanced by outgoings). The squad does need augmentation, but not major surgery.
No sub keeper, no backup RCB, no cover for Kamara, no cover for Watkins - that's a big gap looking ahead to a 50+ game season, kicking off in about 5 weeks. The drop off from likes of Tielemans to Barkley is huge too. Garcia has a lot of ground to make up on Cash. Strength in depth is light enough bar LB and LCB.
Deadwood and the PSR patsys from last summer move on, Bailey must be a cert to leave too, leaves some wiggle room on wage bill but not as much as we think. We still end up paying the most of the Donk's wage elsewhere for example. Going to have to be very creative in transfer market, picking up players their clubs are keen to dump and more Everton/Chelsea/Juve deals.
Gauci, Fair Point we do need a CB, Onana/Bogarde/Barrenechea take your pick, Malen. So 1 out of 4, must do better.
7-8 would be bonkers.
We should be targeted and bring in a max of 4 (balanced by outgoings). The squad does need augmentation, but not major surgery.
No sub keeper, no backup RCB, no cover for Kamara, no cover for Watkins - that's a big gap looking ahead to a 50+ game season, kicking off in about 5 weeks. The drop off from likes of Tielemans to Barkley is huge too. Garcia has a lot of ground to make up on Cash. Strength in depth is light enough bar LB and LCB.
Deadwood and the PSR patsys from last summer move on, Bailey must be a cert to leave too, leaves some wiggle room on wage bill but not as much as we think. We still end up paying the most of the Donk's wage elsewhere for example. Going to have to be very creative in transfer market, picking up players their clubs are keen to dump and more Everton/Chelsea/Juve deals.
Gauci, Fair Point we do need a CB, Onana/Bogarde/Barrenechea take your pick, Malen. So 1 out of 4, must do better.
Onana can cover RCB too, you forgot that one. Nothing for the happy clappys to worry about
I suspect the club may think that Bogarde can develop futher and be the Konsa / RB back. Barrenechea could be Kamara backup. Illing Jr could be the Maatsen backup.
GK we need to replace if Martinez goes, and we may need a backup keeper (depending on how good our plethora of young keepers are).
Striker we are probably banking on Malen being backup, if Watkins went we would need another.
As far as I can see we are most short down the right. Right Centre back (competition for Konsa). Right Back (Upgrade on Cash). Right wing (upgrade or replacement for Bailey).
We have a good squad, I'm not overly worried.
Callum Wilson, anyone...?
We have needed an upgrade on Cash for 2 seasons now.
We have needed an upgrade on Cash for 2 seasons now.
I'd settle for chip and pin right now.
Callum Wilson, anyone...?
Based on how we played for the last third of the season, I'd be very surprised if Cash isn't still first-choice right-back at the start of September.I wouldn’t be either. I live in hope.
We 100% need at least one keeper as god knows who is playing in goal vs newcastle.
If emi goes we need two. If we dont sign a first choice right back this season i think im going to put my head through the wall. Its been a problem for our team for years now and has to be addressed this summer.
We of course will need replacements for asensio and rash (but maybe one of them could be a loan instead of two permanent signings) so some work to do
Callum Wilson, anyone...?
Callum Wilson, anyone...?
Tumbleweed emoji required ?
Callum Wilson, anyone...?
His injury record is a concern and he’d be on big wages. With our current plight with wages for SCR I don’t think it would be a good move.
No. I seem to remember he turned us down to go to Newcastle. So he can fuck right off.Callum Wilson, anyone...?
His injury record is a concern and he’d be on big wages. With our current plight with wages for SCR I don’t think it would be a good move.
What sort of wages do you think a usually-injured 33 year old would be commanding?
Everton keen on McGinn, according to the Athletic. That would be the most David Moyes signing of all time. (it also says we don't want to sell)
Everton keen on McGinn, according to the Athletic. That would be the most David Moyes signing of all time. (it also says we don't want to sell)Everton can fuck right off, according to Andyh.
Everton keen on McGinn, according to the Athletic. That would be the most David Moyes signing of all time. (it also says we don't want to sell)
Everton keen on McGinn, according to the Athletic. That would be the most David Moyes signing of all time. (it also says we don't want to sell)
Murphy is not average. Barnes is not average but his injury record suggests he is.
Murphy is not average. Barnes is not average but his injury record suggests he is.
Murphy is not average. Barnes is not average but his injury record suggests he is.
Let me rephrase then. Are either likely to help propel a team into top 4 or 5 regular contenders either now or in the future? I would argue not. They’re both solid premier league players with Barnes being the better of the two imo but i doubt either will get better than they are today, will cost a reasonable amount and won’t particularly push us forward.
Yeah, this is exactly it. We don’t need players who are *as good as* the ones we’ve got. We need ones that are better. That’s a very small pool, even smaller when you restrict it to ones that will fit in with our PSR requirements and be happy with Europa League (rather than Champions League) football.Murphy is not average. Barnes is not average but his injury record suggests he is.
Let me rephrase then. Are either likely to help propel a team into top 4 or 5 regular contenders either now or in the future? I would argue not. They’re both solid premier league players with Barnes being the better of the two imo but i doubt either will get better than they are today, will cost a reasonable amount and won’t particularly push us forward.
I know it's not his fault but his nose annoys me (H.Barnes).
Murphy is not average. Barnes is not average but his injury record suggests he is.
Murphy - it depends if you think last season is his norm or if you think the rest of his career is.
Barnes - for me he's a player who scores just enough goals to trick people into thinking he's better than he is.
One trick pony, great when the trick comes off.Murphy is not average. Barnes is not average but his injury record suggests he is.
Murphy - it depends if you think last season is his norm or if you think the rest of his career is.
Barnes - for me he's a player who scores just enough goals to trick people into thinking he's better than he is.
Indeed, until proven otherwise I’d assume Murphy’s season is the outlier. Barnes is the absolute epitome of a player who looks great when he’s in top form, but does nothing when he’s not.
Whilst aspirationally, we want players who are better than those we have, I actually think that getting players who are deemed as good as those we have already would not be a bad thing, especially when the better players are going to the clubs who pay the biggest wages.
Effectively, we are two players down on the first team from last season with Asensio and Rashford gone, and we need a decent reserve keeper as well. We hear about players possibly moving out, but less about prospective newcomers who would be considered for the first team.
New players may come in, or players who are predicted to leave may stay, but it is very quiet at the moment.
with elanga going to newcastle, Forrest might have a punt at "mentally checked out" Leon Bailey to replace him on the flank. Marinakis now has £55m drachma burning a hole in his quad XL kecks, monchi should be licking his lips at the thought of juicing him north of £30m. Also this merry go round free's up one of toon's wingers Barnes may now become available or Murphy can do a job under the radar.There are two untouchables in the Villa squad. Only 2.
As for McGinn why would he want to slog it around mid table prem when he's in the upper echelons at Villa with guarenteed Champions League Football at celtic to come in his dotage? he aint no fool, bigger clubs than the toffees across europe should be looking at him after that performance against psg. Vintage Lothar Matthaus. Not that i'd want him to leave. Everton are in dreamworld they think they can get the likes of Grealo and McGinn. They should be looking to take players off Bournmouth and West Ham. Thats if they've paid for their new soccer bowl.
We certainly need a couple of more attacking midfield players on the books to support Rogers, Malan and Watkins. Other than Bailey, who has been largely crap, we don’t have much else unless we bring in some of the kids like Young. I’m sure that we will be working on this though.Ramsey is still with us. Jimoh-Aloba will push on through. Buendia may still have a role. Iling-Junior can play an attacking role.
We certainly need a couple of more attacking midfield players on the books to support Rogers, Malan and Watkins. Other than Bailey, who has been largely crap, we don’t have much else unless we bring in some of the kids like Young. I’m sure that we will be working on this though.Ramsey is still with us. Jimoh-Aloba will push on through. Buendia may still have a role. Iling-Junior can play an attacking role.
BBC Sport reporting the Everton interest in McGinn. Well McNulty the Merseyside editor is anyway.£70m they can have him
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
BBC Sport reporting the Everton interest in McGinn. Well McNulty the Merseyside editor is anyway.£70m they can have him
BBC Sport reporting the Everton interest in McGinn. Well McNulty the Merseyside editor is anyway.£70m they can have him
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
I agree, this is why I could see us giving Gauci a chance for a season.
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
I agree, this is why I could see us giving Gauci a chance for a season.
There's no chance of Gauci getting any significant game time.
BBC Sport reporting the Everton interest in McGinn. Well McNulty the Merseyside editor is anyway.
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
I agree, this is why I could see us giving Gauci a chance for a season.
There's no chance of Gauci getting any significant game time.
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
I agree, this is why I could see us giving Gauci a chance for a season.
There's no chance of Gauci getting any significant game time.
Again though, if he's not ready to be 2nd choice for 6-12months then there's no point in him being here because Proctor looks perfectly fine to be 3rd choice right now.
BBC Sport reporting the Everton interest in McGinn. Well McNulty the Merseyside editor is anyway.
This is very annoying, they don't usually report on speculation, just trying to promote Everton to higher in the pecking order than us.
We 100% need at least one keeper as god knows who is playing in goal vs newcastle.
If emi goes we need two. If we dont sign a first choice right back this season i think im going to put my head through the wall. Its been a problem for our team for years now and has to be addressed this summer.
We of course will need replacements for asensio and rash (but maybe one of them could be a loan instead of two permanent signings) so some work to do
Probably, but if Gauci isn't good enough to be 2nd choice then I'm not sure what the point of him being here is. We have to make do with a negative net spend this summer and in those conditions a goalkeeper who is highly unlikely to play a single minute isn't much use. Same for wanting a replacement for Cash or even more backup in central midfield. We need another winger and a right sided centre half because our only options there are to move players out of position to fill in. After that our signings will be to replace gaps where we've sold the first or 2nd choice option, and I only see 2 of those at most (Bailey and Digne would be my guess).
On the goalkeeping situation I have a feeling proctor is going to become the number 2 very quickly.
I agree, this is why I could see us giving Gauci a chance for a season.
There's no chance of Gauci getting any significant game time.
I agree - what I've seen of him, admittedly not a massive amount what with me not watching football every minute of the day, he's nowhere near good enough for us to be relying on.
Ferran Torres and Joao Felix are the ones Unai is continually linked with…hopefully we can do those if they are the players he wants
Ferran Torres and Joao Felix are the ones Unai is continually linked with…hopefully we can do those if they are the players he wants
It’s probably now or never, especially for Felix. Might just get a bit of a bargain.
Ferran Torres and Joao Felix are the ones Unai is continually linked with…hopefully we can do those if they are the players he wants
It’s probably now or never, especially for Felix. Might just get a bit of a bargain.
We 100% need at least one keeper as god knows who is playing in goal vs newcastle.
If emi goes we need two. If we dont sign a first choice right back this season i think im going to put my head through the wall. Its been a problem for our team for years now and has to be addressed this summer.
We of course will need replacements for asensio and rash (but maybe one of them could be a loan instead of two permanent signings) so some work to do
Probably, but if Gauci isn't good enough to be 2nd choice then I'm not sure what the point of him being here is. We have to make do with a negative net spend this summer and in those conditions a goalkeeper who is highly unlikely to play a single minute isn't much use. Same for wanting a replacement for Cash or even more backup in central midfield. We need another winger and a right sided centre half because our only options there are to move players out of position to fill in. After that our signings will be to replace gaps where we've sold the first or 2nd choice option, and I only see 2 of those at most (Bailey and Digne would be my guess).
Agree with that about gauci. I think it would make sense to just ahve him as number 2 next year and use him in the cup games.
Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
We 100% need at least one keeper as god knows who is playing in goal vs newcastle.
If emi goes we need two. If we dont sign a first choice right back this season i think im going to put my head through the wall. Its been a problem for our team for years now and has to be addressed this summer.
We of course will need replacements for asensio and rash (but maybe one of them could be a loan instead of two permanent signings) so some work to do
Probably, but if Gauci isn't good enough to be 2nd choice then I'm not sure what the point of him being here is. We have to make do with a negative net spend this summer and in those conditions a goalkeeper who is highly unlikely to play a single minute isn't much use. Same for wanting a replacement for Cash or even more backup in central midfield. We need another winger and a right sided centre half because our only options there are to move players out of position to fill in. After that our signings will be to replace gaps where we've sold the first or 2nd choice option, and I only see 2 of those at most (Bailey and Digne would be my guess).
Agree with that about gauci. I think it would make sense to just ahve him as number 2 next year and use him in the cup games.
Not to keep banging the same drum but don't forget whoever is number 2 will be playing the first league game of the season too. So we'll find out pretty quickly if he's good enough or not. I suppose the transfer window will still be open at that point though, so maybe it's not a bad thing.
Well, yes. Other teams don't seem to have a problem putting their 18 yr-olds onto the first-team pitch - notably Arse and ManUre last season. If they're good enough ....That's a lot of expectation on Jimoh-Aloba. Not to mention on I-J.We certainly need a couple of more attacking midfield players on the books to support Rogers, Malan and Watkins. Other than Bailey, who has been largely crap, we don’t have much else unless we bring in some of the kids like Young. I’m sure that we will be working on this though.Ramsey is still with us. Jimoh-Aloba will push on through. Buendia may still have a role. Iling-Junior can play an attacking role.
We 100% need at least one keeper as god knows who is playing in goal vs newcastle.
If emi goes we need two. If we dont sign a first choice right back this season i think im going to put my head through the wall. Its been a problem for our team for years now and has to be addressed this summer.
We of course will need replacements for asensio and rash (but maybe one of them could be a loan instead of two permanent signings) so some work to do
Probably, but if Gauci isn't good enough to be 2nd choice then I'm not sure what the point of him being here is. We have to make do with a negative net spend this summer and in those conditions a goalkeeper who is highly unlikely to play a single minute isn't much use. Same for wanting a replacement for Cash or even more backup in central midfield. We need another winger and a right sided centre half because our only options there are to move players out of position to fill in. After that our signings will be to replace gaps where we've sold the first or 2nd choice option, and I only see 2 of those at most (Bailey and Digne would be my guess).
Agree with that about gauci. I think it would make sense to just ahve him as number 2 next year and use him in the cup games.
Not to keep banging the same drum but don't forget whoever is number 2 will be playing the first league game of the season too. So we'll find out pretty quickly if he's good enough or not. I suppose the transfer window will still be open at that point though, so maybe it's not a bad thing.
Assuming Martinez is still our no.1 when the season starts.
Let’s hope we’ve not done a Man U and given our whole squad silly wages so they’re impossible to shift.
That’ll be an issue if our PSR solution is trading players.
Let’s hope we’ve not done a Man U and given our whole squad silly wages so they’re impossible to shift.
That’ll be an issue if our PSR solution is trading players.
The bulk of that squad have delivered three successive seasons of European football under Emery, most of them earned it. It's only Bailey really who suffered a massive loss of form since 23/24 and might be harder to trade out. Might be easier to move Malen on again and give Bailey another go.
Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
They always start well. Then turn to shit as soon as The Easter Bunny turns up.
Now I'm trying to think of another footballer other than Vince Hilaire who is namechecked in a non-football related top 20 single.Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
They always start well. Then turn to shit as soon as The Easter Bunny turns up.
Might have more chance of beating Palace If they get him , mind, even if they brought back Coppell ,Ian wright, Salako and
Vince Hilaire at their grand old ages , they will still beat us.
Rumours of Jhon Arias for 20 million .. columbian winger
Not another Columbian headcase.
Rumours of Jhon Arias for 20 million .. columbian winger
Rumours of Jhon Arias for 20 million .. columbian winger
Christ, another one with the spelling problem.
Rumours of Jhon Arias for 20 million .. columbian winger
From the BBC Football Gossip pages, "
Unai Emery is keen to bring Barcelona striker Ferran Torres, 25, to Aston Villa and is prepared to offer £43m for the Spaniard." (Fichajes - in Spanish)
Calling me Juan is fine .Rumours of Jhon Arias for 20 million .. columbian winger
Christ, another one with the spelling problem.
From the BBC Football Gossip pages, "
Unai Emery is keen to bring Barcelona striker Ferran Torres, 25, to Aston Villa and is prepared to offer £43m for the Spaniard." (Fichajes - in Spanish)
From the BBC Football Gossip pages, "
Unai Emery is keen to bring Barcelona striker Ferran Torres, 25, to Aston Villa and is prepared to offer £43m for the Spaniard." (Fichajes - in Spanish)
I don't think there's any chance Torres ends up here. If he's available, there has got to be a club in the Champions League that wouldn't hesitate to pay that. This is the same as the Felix saga.
Now I'm trying to think of another footballer other than Vince Hilaire who is namechecked in a non-football related top 20 single.Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
They always start well. Then turn to shit as soon as The Easter Bunny turns up.
Might have more chance of beating Palace If they get him , mind, even if they brought back Coppell ,Ian wright, Salako and
Vince Hilaire at their grand old ages , they will still beat us.
Leeds United reportedly want to seal a loan-to-buy deal for Aston Villa playmaker Emi Buendia.
According to reporter Graeme Bailey, Leeds want to sign the Argentina-capped creator on loan and have a buy option as part of the agreement.
He told Leeds United News: “I am told that Leeds want Buendia on loan with an option to sign him – think Leeds are waiting Villa out.”
"Waiting Villa out" The loan fee is now £25m
Not another Columbian headcase.Don't we already have a Colombian on the books? - an 18 yr-old CB?
Not another Columbian headcase.Don't we already have a Colombian on the books? - an 18 yr-old CB?
Now I'm trying to think of another footballer other than Vince Hilaire who is namechecked in a non-football related top 20 single.
Now I'm trying to think of another footballer other than Vince Hilaire who is namechecked in a non-football related top 20 single.Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
They always start well. Then turn to shit as soon as The Easter Bunny turns up.
Might have more chance of beating Palace If they get him , mind, even if they brought back Coppell ,Ian wright, Salako and
Vince Hilaire at their grand old ages , they will still beat us.
You got me thinking too, here’s a thread on the subject
https://www.northstandchat.com/threads/non-football-popular-music-songs-that-have-reference-to-football-players.90814/
Grealish is mentioned in a Stormzy song. Brad Friedel is an HMHB song, as, I imagine, are a fair few other players.
Let’s hope we’ve not done a Man U and given our whole squad silly wages so they’re impossible to shift.
That’ll be an issue if our PSR solution is trading players.
The bulk of that squad have delivered three successive seasons of European football under Emery, most of them earned it. It's only Bailey really who suffered a massive loss of form since 23/24 and might be harder to trade out. Might be easier to move Malen on again and give Bailey another go.
No, quit trolling.
Do we think this has been the quietest start to the transfer window since we nearly went bust 🤔Apprently according to an "expert" on radio earlier today after "sorting out out PSR and UEFA issues" we are back in the market place.
Let’s hope we’ve not done a Man U and given our whole squad silly wages so they’re impossible to shift.
That’ll be an issue if our PSR solution is trading players.
The bulk of that squad have delivered three successive seasons of European football under Emery, most of them earned it. It's only Bailey really who suffered a massive loss of form since 23/24 and might be harder to trade out. Might be easier to move Malen on again and give Bailey another go.
No, quit trolling.
What's your problem?
Now I'm trying to think of another footballer other than Vince Hilaire who is namechecked in a non-football related top 20 single.Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
They always start well. Then turn to shit as soon as The Easter Bunny turns up.
Might have more chance of beating Palace If they get him , mind, even if they brought back Coppell ,Ian wright, Salako and
Vince Hilaire at their grand old ages , they will still beat us.
Now I'm trying to think of another footballer other than Vince Hilaire who is namechecked in a non-football related top 20 single.Arsenal signing Eze now it seems. If they don’t start well Lego head will be for it.
They always start well. Then turn to shit as soon as The Easter Bunny turns up.
Might have more chance of beating Palace If they get him , mind, even if they brought back Coppell ,Ian wright, Salako and
Vince Hilaire at their grand old ages , they will still beat us.
Former Villa keeper Mervyn Day is mentioned in a Beatles song - go to 23 seconds.
Not another Columbian headcase.Don't we already have a Colombian on the books? - an 18 yr-old CB?
And Angel was hardly a head case either
Do we think this has been the quietest start to the transfer window since we nearly went bust 🤔
Kudus to Spurs
Wissa to Spurs
Barry to Everton
Madueke to Arsenal
the mental merry-go-round is just about to start :)
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.I think by signing him, Spurs are hoping that people will show them a bit more respect.
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.the modern day Rod Wallace. Random, I know.
As Chelsea’s new £50M forward smashed in two goals at the CWC and Spurs lash out £55M on Kudus I just watched a tumbleweed roll by B6.
As Chelsea’s new £50M forward smashed in two goals at the CWC and Spurs lash out £55M on Kudus I just watched a tumbleweed roll by B6.
It was a glorified friendly. Spurs have a LOT of catching up to do.
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.
As Chelsea’s new £50M forward smashed in two goals at the CWC and Spurs lash out £55M on Kudus I just watched a tumbleweed roll by B6.
It was a glorified friendly. Spurs have a LOT of catching up to do.
I know people don’t like the event but it’s not a friendly at all. The clubs are playing their best players because of the incredible money on the line.
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.
Who is their manager?
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
When does 'plenty of time left' change to 'Shit, all those we see as rivals are strengthening their squads while all we have managed is a teenager on a free that most people have never heard of'?
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
When does 'plenty of time left' change to 'Shit, all those we see as rivals are strengthening their squads while all we have managed is a teenager on a free that most people have never heard of'?
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
When does 'plenty of time left' change to 'Shit, all those we see as rivals are strengthening their squads while all we have managed is a teenager on a free that most people have never heard of'?
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.
Who is their manager?
To be honest I have got a clue? I’ve forgotten! Who is it again?
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
When does 'plenty of time left' change to 'Shit, all those we see as rivals are strengthening their squads while all we have managed is a teenager on a free that most people have never heard of'?
Kudus is bang average isn’t he?
We'll finish above Chelsea and Spurs next season
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.Bit early to start panicking, however given the constraints we are under I think this will be a challenging window. Missing out on ECL was a huge blow. We will have to cut our cloth accordingly now .
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
When does 'plenty of time left' change to 'Shit, all those we see as rivals are strengthening their squads while all we have managed is a teenager on a free that most people have never heard of'?
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.
Who is their manager?
To be honest I have got a clue? I’ve forgotten! Who is it again?
Thomas the Frank Engine
Ha! Glad he didn’t sign for us.Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.I think by signing him, Spurs are hoping that people will show them a bit more respect.
Well no, but do we really think we’ll have the same squad? Highly doubtful.Yep . We will lose at least one major squad player to appease the accountants.
At least a three or four out of ten then. ;)Kudus is bang average isn’t he?
No, he has huge potential. Better bet than Elanga at that price.
We'll finish above Chelsea and Spurs next season
Not with the current squad we won’t. Pre Jan transfer dealings we were stuck in mid table. At best without new players this team is 7th-9th. Emery’s magic will only take us so far.
We'll finish above Chelsea and Spurs next season
We'll finish above Chelsea and Spurs next season
Not with the current squad we won’t. Pre Jan transfer dealings we were stuck in mid table. At best without new players this team is 7th-9th. Emery’s magic will only take us so far.
You might want to change your signature
Anyone who thinks it’s time to panic should go back to the halcyon days of buying a whole new defence on the last day of the window under MO’N.
We'll finish above Chelsea and Spurs next season
BUT WHAT IF WE DON'T HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WE MIGHT NOT.
Isn’t this the first time in 3 years that we’ve not had to sell a big player, just to meet PSR? I don’t understand why now’s the time to shit our pants?
Anyone who thinks it’s time to panic should go back to the halcyon days of buying a whole new defence on the last day of the window under MO’N.
It’s not about panicking. It’s about preparing properly. We didn’t exactly have a great window last summer and it showed in how we started in the league. We bobbed along until Christmas in what was a pretty average PL. This summer the sides we will compete with for a top 4 or 5 spot have all strengthened from a position of strength. We haven’t been allowed to for well documented reasons. Emery doesn’t throw new players in. So the longer it goes the less time new players will have to integrate before the new season starts. He will find a way to make it all come together but will we be too far off the pace when it does. Our second half of the season was sensational but that’s because of the very dramatic moves we made in January. There’s no guarantee we can do the same again or will given our precarious financial position and commitment to meet UEFA SCR rules.
Anyone who thinks it’s time to panic should go back to the halcyon days of buying a whole new defence on the last day of the window under MO’N.
It’s not about panicking. It’s about preparing properly. We didn’t exactly have a great window last summer and it showed in how we started in the league. We bobbed along until Christmas in what was a pretty average PL. This summer the sides we will compete with for a top 4 or 5 spot have all strengthened from a position of strength. We haven’t been allowed to for well documented reasons. Emery doesn’t throw new players in. So the longer it goes the less time new players will have to integrate before the new season starts. He will find a way to make it all come together but will we be too far off the pace when it does. Our second half of the season was sensational but that’s because of the very dramatic moves we made in January. There’s no guarantee we can do the same again or will given our precarious financial position and commitment to meet UEFA SCR rules.
Emery does throw new players in, he just doesn't throw every new player in. As for us 'bobbing along in the league', we were playing Champions League football as well and looked bloody good in it at times too.
It's like this every pre season. People just need to chill a bit.
As things stand we will have a fully fit Kamara at the start of the season and a fully fit Jacob Ramsey. Danyal Malen will make a big impact next season imo. Big things are expected from Jimoh-Aloba and Andre Garcia. We will sign a couple of players that we dont expect. They've not let us down so far and in fact it's widely accepted that our January dealings were the absolute best in the PL. It's not a time for panicking. We can speculate all we want but we should absolutely trust the process and avoid all the negative crap from journos who are mostly supporters of the Sky Cartel brigade and more than a little bit nervous about little old Aston Villa poking our nose into the trough and pushing their own clubs out.Isn’t this the first time in 3 years that we’ve not had to sell a big player, just to meet PSR? I don’t understand why now’s the time to shit our pants?
Again not about panicking/shitting our pants. But if you consider that Rashford and Asensio aren’t with us, two massive players that helped get us to 6th, then what we are left with is a side that was mid table. So yes, we didn’t “sell” them, but they are not with us. So yes of course many weeks to go, and this squad is solid and mature, with a great manager, but as it stands we are a good way behind the top 5 from last season. Certainly those who finished top 4.
As things stand we will have a fully fit Kamara at the start of the season and a fully fit Jacob Ramsey. Danyal Malen will make a big impact next season imo. Big things are expected from Jimoh-Aloba and Andre Garcia. We will sign a couple of players that we dont expect. They've not let us down so far and in fact it's widely accepted that our January dealings were the absolute best in the PL. It's not a time for panicking. We can speculate all we want but we should absolutely trust the process and avoid all the negative crap from journos who are mostly supporters of the Sky Cartel brigade and more than a little bit nervous about little old Aston Villa poking our nose into the trough and pushing their own clubs out.Isn’t this the first time in 3 years that we’ve not had to sell a big player, just to meet PSR? I don’t understand why now’s the time to shit our pants?
Again not about panicking/shitting our pants. But if you consider that Rashford and Asensio aren’t with us, two massive players that helped get us to 6th, then what we are left with is a side that was mid table. So yes, we didn’t “sell” them, but they are not with us. So yes of course many weeks to go, and this squad is solid and mature, with a great manager, but as it stands we are a good way behind the top 5 from last season. Certainly those who finished top 4.
I haven’t watched a kick either, can’t really see the interest. Football needs to actually stop sometimes.
As for our transfer activity, the squad clearly needs improvement but there’s plenty of time and clearly we need to tread reasonably carefully.
When does 'plenty of time left' change to 'Shit, all those we see as rivals are strengthening their squads while all we have managed is a teenager on a free that most people have never heard of'?
50 days I suppose depending when the window finishes in August.
Kudos under the right manager could be very good, he’s got bags of talent, but he also can look terrible and goes missing and a liability.
Who is their manager?
To be honest I have got a clue? I’ve forgotten! Who is it again?
Thomas the Frank Engine
Oh yeah, of course. I do wonder how he will get on. I can see him not getting a long run at this if he starts slow.
We literally can't "sign a couple of players", whether we expect them or otherwise, unless we sell. The concern is, maybe, who we would choose to sell, given that it's a lot easier to attract offers for really good players that we would hate to see leave than it is to sell players we wouldn't mind flogging.
NEW: Aston Villa are following highly rated midfielder Rodolfo Aloko (18) from Croatian side NK Kustosija.
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NEW: Aston Villa are following highly rated midfielder Rodolfo Aloko (18) from Croatian side NK Kustosija.
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He's from Benin. Surely that's a new country for us?
Bailey, Torres, Barkley out the door, there's £40m to plug any accountancy holes. But we need major reinforcements that's the issue . I think it's a tough season ahead and upper mid table status .
This will just start again, before we’ve even kicked a ball, Tims endless repeating of his view on Torres, on several threads, over and over.Bailey, Torres, Barkley out the door, there's £40m to plug any accountancy holes. But we need major reinforcements that's the issue . I think it's a tough season ahead and upper mid table status .
Have you thought this through? Do you really believe Torres will be sold? And no chance Barkley either.
no point selling Barkley - we'd get naff all for him, and he counts as home grown for UEFA registration.
We literally can't "sign a couple of players", whether we expect them or otherwise, unless we sell. The concern is, maybe, who we would choose to sell, given that it's a lot easier to attract offers for really good players that we would hate to see leave than it is to sell players we wouldn't mind flogging.
The fact that we haven’t signed anyone is exactly this. We need to avoid a major sanction from UEFA next season. So to meet their requirements we need to reduce our wages considerably. It therefore means we need to find some buyers for Buendia, Donck, Barry etc, or sell a key component of our squad. So while I accept Kamara, JJ being fit, Malen stepping up are all pluses it still doesn’t adequately bridge the gap to the top 4. I do think we can compete with Newcastle as they are much in the same boat. But we will need to be smart and strengthen while very likely losing a key player.
Bailey, Torres, Barkley out the door, there's £40m to plug any accountancy holes. But we need major reinforcements that's the issue . I think it's a tough season ahead and upper mid table status .
Have you thought this through? Do you really believe Torres will be sold? And no chance Barkley either.
We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.Exactly this. We've lost our three loan players who were luxuries we could only afford short term and with Champions League income. We still have a large squad with the potential for wheeling and dealing.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
NEW: Aston Villa are following highly rated midfielder Rodolfo Aloko (18) from Croatian side NK Kustosija.
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He's from Benin. Surely that's a new country for us?
don't give up the day job ...Presumably it will Benin one out then.NEW: Aston Villa are following highly rated midfielder Rodolfo Aloko (18) from Croatian side NK Kustosija.He's from Benin. Surely that's a new country for us?
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personally I'd flog them both.
It seems to me that the only teams that have recruited significantly so far this season; are Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City. Arsenal have talked about signing some big names without many actual arrivals with Tottenham now looking for recruits.
So apart from Man Utd being a basketcase it is the Sky 6 that are strengthing their squads with everyone else hamstrung by PSR - just as it was designed to do.
... the Club WC thing ...Very well put, that man!
It seems to me that the only teams that have recruited significantly so far this season; are Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City. Arsenal have talked about signing some big names without many actual arrivals with Tottenham now looking for recruits.
So apart from Man Utd being a basketcase it is the Sky 6 that are strengthing their squads with everyone else hamstrung by PSR - just as it was designed to do.
Jordan Henderson anyone?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8rpmzn3ly1o
(I'm joking of course)
It seems to me that the only teams that have recruited significantly so far this season; are Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City. Arsenal have talked about signing some big names without many actual arrivals with Tottenham now looking for recruits.
So apart from Man Utd being a basketcase it is the Sky 6 that are strengthing their squads with everyone else hamstrung by PSR - just as it was designed to do.
Jordan Henderson anyone?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c8rpmzn3ly1o
(I'm joking of course)
Surely this has Sunderland written all over it.
PSR was absolutely designed to protect the established elite. It was invented by a crooked former Juventus player, because the likes of Juventus were worried that the leagues would all have billionaires creating their own versions of Man City and challenging their dominance.
People who think it was put in place to protect less wealthy clubs probably believe Nigel Farage when he presents himself as a man of the people.
Is Redmond here to stay and be in the first team squad or is he likely to go out loan. Same with the Turkish CB
PSR was absolutely designed to protect the established elite. It was invented by a crooked former Juventus player, because the likes of Juventus were worried that the leagues would all have billionaires creating their own versions of Man City and challenging their dominance.
People who think it was put in place to protect less wealthy clubs probably believe Nigel Farage when he presents himself as a man of the people.
So in a member organisation like the PL, the 14 non big 6 clubs are all just stupid and were tricked by the Big 6 into agreeing with their evil plan? Why does PSR exist in the lower leagues then if it’s just something to protect the established elite?
God knows what Farage has to do with it - hopefully nothing given he’s a moron.
Is Redmond here to stay and be in the first team squad or is he likely to go out loan. Same with the Turkish CB
Ozcan's presumably here to provide cover for Torres and eventually replace him as LCB.
We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
Is Redmond here to stay and be in the first team squad or is he likely to go out loan. Same with the Turkish CB
Ozcan's presumably here to provide cover for Torres and eventually replace him as LCB.
Where does that leave Mings after his contract extension then?
PSR was absolutely designed to protect the established elite. It was invented by a crooked former Juventus player, because the likes of Juventus were worried that the leagues would all have billionaires creating their own versions of Man City and challenging their dominance.
People who think it was put in place to protect less wealthy clubs probably believe Nigel Farage when he presents himself as a man of the people.
So in a member organisation like the PL, the 14 non big 6 clubs are all just stupid and were tricked by the Big 6 into agreeing with their evil plan? Why does PSR exist in the lower leagues then if it’s just something to protect the established elite?
God knows what Farage has to do with it - hopefully nothing given he’s a moron.
I don’t know whether it was designed this way on purpose, but it was designed so poorly that it didn’t take too long for it to become this way.
all the negative crap from journos who are mostly supporters of the Sky Cartel brigade and more than a little bit nervous about little old Aston Villa poking our nose into the trough and pushing their own clubs out.
Quoteall the negative crap from journos who are mostly supporters of the Sky Cartel brigade and more than a little bit nervous about little old Aston Villa poking our nose into the trough and pushing their own clubs out.
Quoteall the negative crap from journos who are mostly supporters of the Sky Cartel brigade and more than a little bit nervous about little old Aston Villa poking our nose into the trough and pushing their own clubs out.
I honestly don't buy that for a minute.
Journalists would have more to write about, their job would be way more easier.
Quoteall the negative crap from journos who are mostly supporters of the Sky Cartel brigade and more than a little bit nervous about little old Aston Villa poking our nose into the trough and pushing their own clubs out.
I honestly don't buy that for a minute.
Journalists would have more to write about, their job would be way more easier.
We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.Exactly this. We've lost our three loan players who were luxuries we could only afford short term and with Champions League income. We still have a large squad with the potential for wheeling and dealing.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
Literally who
Bailey, Torres, Barkley out the door, there's £40m to plug any accountancy holes. But we need major reinforcements that's the issue . I think it's a tough season ahead and upper mid table status .Why on earth would we get rid of our best centre half?
Bailey, Torres, Barkley out the door, there's £40m to plug any accountancy holes. But we need major reinforcements that's the issue . I think it's a tough season ahead and upper mid table status .Why on earth would we get rid of our best centre half?
Literally who
kid we got from Arsenal that sent some of their lot into a tizzy worrying they had let go the next Maldini only to find we got the next Bernie Gallacher instead.
Lino Sousa. Last seen getting an occasional run-out for Bristol Rovers as they got relegated.
Lino Sousa. Last seen getting an occasional run-out for Bristol Rovers as they got relegated.
I posted Lino updates on last season's Loan Watch
He played 25+ games there in half a season. Which is a bit more than 'occasional'
Had anyone else forgotten about the left back we signed from arsenal a while ago…..went on loan somewhere ….cant even recall his nameAssistant Referee Sousa
We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.Exactly this. We've lost our three loan players who were luxuries we could only afford short term and with Champions League income. We still have a large squad with the potential for wheeling and dealing.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
The bunch back from loan and PSR patsys are in the main unwanted by Emery (Kosta, Buendia, Dobbin, SIJ, Enzo, Moreno, Donk, Barry). Id be stunned if he used any of these next season
. Not much scope for wheeling and dealing there that cuts the wage bill drastically, Leeds or whoever aren't going to offer Buendia anything like the money he is currently on.
This isn't like last summer where we had the likes of Buendia, Ramsey and Mings coming back from injury to add to a squad that secured CL football, despite likes of Luiz having to go and Diaby. Already looking as if the benefits of pre season to bed in new players will be limited. Not the end of the world perhaps but it's a much trickier transfer window for the club than last summer.
Which appears to be about 40% of the uk population. We are buggered.As if the current lot are any better 🙄
But why does it only ever seem to be tricky for us? Chelsea had a more severe punishment, as presumably their guilt was judged as more serious, yet their spend is already Gbp150 mill. and counting. Anyone who thinks we will be competitive at the top of the league again without some serious investment is deluding themselves. Puts on tin hat and takes cover.Chelsea has a much higher revenue base and so the ratios are very much different to ours. Also, maybe their ownership is more cavalier than ours. And, they have yet to offload a tranche of their unwanted and youth players which will make the net spend more sustainable, perhaps.
They paid an extra €15m to comply within a 4 year period instead of a 3 year period.We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.Exactly this. We've lost our three loan players who were luxuries we could only afford short term and with Champions League income. We still have a large squad with the potential for wheeling and dealing.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
The bunch back from loan and PSR patsys are in the main unwanted by Emery (Kosta, Buendia, Dobbin, SIJ, Enzo, Moreno, Donk, Barry). Id be stunned if he used any of these next season
. Not much scope for wheeling and dealing there that cuts the wage bill drastically, Leeds or whoever aren't going to offer Buendia anything like the money he is currently on.
This isn't like last summer where we had the likes of Buendia, Ramsey and Mings coming back from injury to add to a squad that secured CL football, despite likes of Luiz having to go and Diaby. Already looking as if the benefits of pre season to bed in new players will be limited. Not the end of the world perhaps but it's a much trickier transfer window for the club than last summer.
But why does it only ever seem to be tricky for us? Chelsea had a more severe punishment, as presumably their guilt was judged as more serious, yet their spend is already Gbp150 mill. and counting. Anyone who thinks we will be competitive at the top of the league again without some serious investment is deluding themselves. Puts on tin hat and takes cover.
Spurs are doing some spending, they're going to be a different prospect next year with a decent coach.
They paid an extra €15m to comply within a 4 year period instead of a 3 year period.We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.Exactly this. We've lost our three loan players who were luxuries we could only afford short term and with Champions League income. We still have a large squad with the potential for wheeling and dealing.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
The bunch back from loan and PSR patsys are in the main unwanted by Emery (Kosta, Buendia, Dobbin, SIJ, Enzo, Moreno, Donk, Barry). Id be stunned if he used any of these next season
. Not much scope for wheeling and dealing there that cuts the wage bill drastically, Leeds or whoever aren't going to offer Buendia anything like the money he is currently on.
This isn't like last summer where we had the likes of Buendia, Ramsey and Mings coming back from injury to add to a squad that secured CL football, despite likes of Luiz having to go and Diaby. Already looking as if the benefits of pre season to bed in new players will be limited. Not the end of the world perhaps but it's a much trickier transfer window for the club than last summer.
But why does it only ever seem to be tricky for us? Chelsea had a more severe punishment, as presumably their guilt was judged as more serious, yet their spend is already Gbp150 mill. and counting. Anyone who thinks we will be competitive at the top of the league again without some serious investment is deluding themselves. Puts on tin hat and takes cover.
Ha , i'll take the bait . Because he clearly isn't . Stats.Bailey, Torres, Barkley out the door, there's £40m to plug any accountancy holes. But we need major reinforcements that's the issue . I think it's a tough season ahead and upper mid table status .Why on earth would we get rid of our best centre half?
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are leading the race to sign Brest goalkeeper Marco Bizot.He must have a lovely pair .
@lequipe
An Olsen replacement at 34yr old.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are leading the race to sign Brest goalkeeper Marco Bizot.He must have a lovely pair .
@lequipe
An Olsen replacement at 34yr old.
Of hands.
If that’s the brest we can do this summer then I despair.Say that to his face, you chicken....brest.
🚨 NEW: Unai Emery has studied Marco Bizot in detail together with the scouting department & followed many of his matches — he could arrive in England next week.
@telegraaf
🚨 NEW: Unai Emery has studied Marco Bizot in detail together with the scouting department & followed many of his matches — he could arrive in England next week.
@telegraaf
It might be a bullshit rumour but I can 100% believe Unai has spent hours poring over footage of a 34 year old potential back up keeper from France.
Someone just told me he has seen we are trying to get Trossard.I'd rather Ramsey had more game time
They paid an extra €15m to comply within a 4 year period instead of a 3 year period.We'll sign someone, we'll sell someone. We'll do well in the competitions we're in, we'll challenge again. Another team won't do as well as expected whilst another does better than expected.Exactly this. We've lost our three loan players who were luxuries we could only afford short term and with Champions League income. We still have a large squad with the potential for wheeling and dealing.
We've currently got fit players who've all had a decent break.
We've 'lost' Asensio, Rashford and Disasi, and moved Coutinho, Hause, and Olsen on.
We've gained Buendia, Ozcan, Barrenechea, Iling Jr, Gauci, and Moreno.
One new signing, a bunch back from loan. We may or may not now need a centre half, we need a bit of pace up front. We will be fine.
The bunch back from loan and PSR patsys are in the main unwanted by Emery (Kosta, Buendia, Dobbin, SIJ, Enzo, Moreno, Donk, Barry). Id be stunned if he used any of these next season
. Not much scope for wheeling and dealing there that cuts the wage bill drastically, Leeds or whoever aren't going to offer Buendia anything like the money he is currently on.
This isn't like last summer where we had the likes of Buendia, Ramsey and Mings coming back from injury to add to a squad that secured CL football, despite likes of Luiz having to go and Diaby. Already looking as if the benefits of pre season to bed in new players will be limited. Not the end of the world perhaps but it's a much trickier transfer window for the club than last summer.
But why does it only ever seem to be tricky for us? Chelsea had a more severe punishment, as presumably their guilt was judged as more serious, yet their spend is already Gbp150 mill. and counting. Anyone who thinks we will be competitive at the top of the league again without some serious investment is deluding themselves. Puts on tin hat and takes cover.
Chelsea are also in the process of earning an absolute fortune for losing to PSG in the final of that Club World Cup thing.
I like Trossard, he's a good and under utilised player.
Looks like he stays up all night chasing the dragon mind.
Spuds signing Gibbs White,Wouldn't make an ounce of difference to what Spuds are doing!
A point at Old Trafford and this window would have been a bit more exciting.
This Brest goalkeeper kept 13 clean sheets last season. He really is the Bizot.
How many boobs did he make last season?This Brest goalkeeper kept 13 clean sheets last season. He really is the Bizot.
You have a good mammary for figures.
Someone just told me he has seen we are trying to get Trossard.Well we do like our Belgian midfielders.
How many boobs did he make last season?This Brest goalkeeper kept 13 clean sheets last season. He really is the Bizot.
You have a good mammary for figures.
It is quite depressing watching Spurs, Chelsea and United chucking massive money about like nothing is ever going to change while Villa, Forest and Newcastle are all tip toeing about the rules like naughty children. Emery gets us into the top 6 again next season he's performed small miracles again.
Lino Sousa. Last seen getting an occasional run-out for Bristol Rovers as they got relegated.
I posted Lino updates on last season's Loan Watch
He played 25+ games there in half a season. Which is a bit more than 'occasional'
He was with them for the whole season and started 18 of the 51 matches they played, coming on from the bench in a further 11.
I'm happy with my phrasing ;-)
But it's setting the bra high.How many boobs did he make last season?This Brest goalkeeper kept 13 clean sheets last season. He really is the Bizot.
You have a good mammary for figures.
He'll only play in the (D) cup.
I wasn't worried about Forest repeating their surprisingly good form from last season anyway, but even less so now. Spurs will be the side that replace them in the mix this season I think, Frank will have them organised. I also have a sneaky feeling Everton could be much stronger too - not quite top six challenging but solid top half.It is quite depressing watching Spurs, Chelsea and United chucking massive money about like nothing is ever going to change while Villa, Forest and Newcastle are all tip toeing about the rules like naughty children. Emery gets us into the top 6 again next season he's performed small miracles again.
Unless they have got suitable replacements lined up, those two Forrst have sold are going to leave a big hole in their side.
Yeah but we have Uani - plus a settled squad. A few additions would be great - but a number of the clubs are spending to back there new manager
I completely agree, but now the issue is staying in front of them.Yeah but we have Uani - plus a settled squad. A few additions would be great - but a number of the clubs are spending to back there new manager
They've all been splashing the cash since we were hamstrung by Gerrard and they were regular Chapions League teams but it didn't stop us catching them and overtaking them when we had a weaker squad than we do now.
But it's setting the bra high.How many boobs did he make last season?This Brest goalkeeper kept 13 clean sheets last season. He really is the Bizot.
You have a good mammary for figures.
He'll only play in the (D) cup.
But it's setting the bra high.How many boobs did he make last season?This Brest goalkeeper kept 13 clean sheets last season. He really is the Bizot.
You have a good mammary for figures.
He'll only play in the (D) cup.
He used to guest on the Sports Bra on Talksport.
This is dreadful.
This is dreadful.
Misread and misunderstood….apologies and removedThis is dreadful.
Stop being such a tit.
#AVFC have finalised terms to sign Marco Bizot from Brest. 34yo regarded a good character, with experience & low-cost fee other key factors. Will be GK No 2 - target position filled for Villa & remain in pursuit of defender & winger. Story
@TheAthleticFC
I wasn't worried about Forest repeating their surprisingly good form from last season anyway, but even less so now. Spurs will be the side that replace them in the mix this season I think, Frank will have them organised. I also have a sneaky feeling Everton could be much stronger too - not quite top six challenging but solid top half.It is quite depressing watching Spurs, Chelsea and United chucking massive money about like nothing is ever going to change while Villa, Forest and Newcastle are all tip toeing about the rules like naughty children. Emery gets us into the top 6 again next season he's performed small miracles again.
Unless they have got suitable replacements lined up, those two Forrst have sold are going to leave a big hole in their side.
BIG TITS! What do I win?
We signing Areola next?
We signing Areola next?
This is dreadful.
BIG TITS! What do I win?
Forest are apparently trying to sign McAtee and Wizza as replacements. The former would be a good addition to our squad (although we don't necessarily need another AMF).I wasn't worried about Forest repeating their surprisingly good form from last season anyway, but even less so now. Spurs will be the side that replace them in the mix this season I think, Frank will have them organised. I also have a sneaky feeling Everton could be much stronger too - not quite top six challenging but solid top half.It is quite depressing watching Spurs, Chelsea and United chucking massive money about like nothing is ever going to change while Villa, Forest and Newcastle are all tip toeing about the rules like naughty children. Emery gets us into the top 6 again next season he's performed small miracles again.
Unless they have got suitable replacements lined up, those two Forrst have sold are going to leave a big hole in their side.
Spuds signing Gibbs White,
A point at Old Trafford and this window would have been a bit more exciting.
Spuds signing Gibbs White,
A point at Old Trafford and this window would have been a bit more exciting.
Well it appears Spudz didn’t have remission to speak to Gibbs-White so Forest are considering taking legal action. Hope they do, Levy needs to be taught a lesson
They'll probably start well and then fade like they normally do.
Spuds signing Gibbs White,
A point at Old Trafford and this window would have been a bit more exciting.
Well it appears Spudz didn’t have remission to speak to Gibbs-White so Forest are considering taking legal action. Hope they do, Levy needs to be taught a lesson
Move off apparently.
Gibbs-White to Spurs. Forrest acting the victim. That Forrest owner, who apparently has no say in the running of the club, is a right arsehole. The wheels are going to come off at Forrest sooner or later.Move off apparently.
Which move?
Gibbs-White to Spurs. Forrest acting the victim. That Forrest owner, who apparently has no say in the running of the club, is a right arsehole. The wheels are going to come off at Forrest sooner or later.Move off apparently.
Which move?
Agree, Mellin. What did they pay, £45m? I've seen an asking price of £50m mentioned and thought that was ridiculously ambitious. I can't see Chelsea not losing money on him, even at £35m somebody will be taking a big chance.
Douglas Luiz to West Ham doing the rounds. That would be a shame.
Very little sympathy for Forest. What's the point of a player requesting a release clause in his contract if nobody is allowed to know about it?
Madueke to Arsenal. He would have been great for us.
Not sure we need Dougie, especially compared to other positions we need to bolster. But I have a massive soft spot for him and all rationality would go out the window if there was a chance of getting him back. VAMOS!!Douglas Luiz to West Ham doing the rounds. That would be a shame.
He's being linked to multiple PL clubs, hoping he returns though.
Apparently according to Talksport, Onana from Man U has done his hamstring & will miss their American tour.
Looks like the Emi sale could be on...
Apparently according to Talksport, Onana from Man U has done his hamstring & will miss their American tour.
Looks like the Emi sale could be on...
I would say it's less likely as they've got no chance of shifting that clown now.
Not sure we need Dougie, especially compared to other positions we need to bolster. But I have a massive soft spot for him and all rationality would go out the window if there was a chance of getting him back. VAMOS!!Douglas Luiz to West Ham doing the rounds. That would be a shame.
He's being linked to multiple PL clubs, hoping he returns though.
Dave could be a replacement for SJM if we sold him.
Dave could be a replacement for SJM if we sold him.
Not sure my knees are up to it.
🚨 NEW: Fenerbahçe have started discussions to sign Leon Bailey.Have they won the lottery ?
@Santi_J_FM
Is it Fenerbache that had Zaniolo too, and Oshimen? If not there's several Turkish teams that seem to end up with decent players in some kind of half way house situation.
Dave could be a replacement for SJM if we sold him.
Not sure my knees are up to it.
🚨 NEW: Fenerbahçe have started discussions to sign Leon Bailey.Great news. Leon would be bargain at £40M for them.
@Santi_J_FM
🚨 NEW: Fenerbahçe have started discussions to sign Leon Bailey.
@Santi_J_FM
Great news. Leon would be bargain at £40M for them.
Have seen a few spurious click bait links to Dougie and JackMe too
For me , I would have both back at the right price (£25m touted for Doug, loan for Jack)
Not sure where we are headed this window but would take them both back if it was at the right price
Have seen a few spurious click bait links to Dougie and JackIf we can’t spend money then yes, I’m all in for these two.
For me , I would have both back at the right price (£25m touted for Doug, loan for Jack)
Not sure where we are headed this window but would take them both back if it was at the right price
I wonder what will happen with Harvey Elliot? Thinking about it, he'd be a good fit I think.
Draper was July 4th, there were loads of "on this day thirty years ago" things doing the rounds last week.
All a lot of Podcasters think we will get more players in towards the end of the window, apart from a keeper I’m beginning to have my doubts.
Jackson from Chelsea in - Watkins out
Jackson from Chelsea in - Watkins out
Speculation, ITK, or what you’d like to see happen?
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Have they got anyone we might be thinking about swapping?
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Pavlidis would be a decent back up to Watkins, 19 league goal and 7 assists in 34 games last seaon. They'd want a lot more than £8m for him though. Previously at AZ Alkmaar, he scored 80 goals in 137 games over three seasons. In 2023/24 he was the joint top scorer in the Eredivisie with 29 goals.
Have they got anyone we might be thinking about swapping?
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
Draper was July 4th, there were loads of "on this day thirty years ago" things doing the rounds last week.
Jackson from Chelsea in - Watkins outChrist if some people think Watkins is profligate, there'll be multiple embolisms with Jackson up front
It was 30 years ago today
Mark Draper taught the midfield how to play
(https://i.ibb.co/k6c7w60p/Screenshot-20250704-112012-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/k6c7w60p)
Gyokeres to Arsenal seems to have hit a bump with him facing disciplinary action for not showing up for pre season training. Wonder if they'll start sniffing around Ollie again if they can't get him.
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
Which would be weird, it’s entirely against our interests to do that.
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
Which would be weird, it’s entirely against our interests to do that.
Too much noise for too long about our financial issues have everybody trying to take advantage. That said, the Spurs motto comes to mind, 'if you don't ask the answer is always no'.
It doesn’t make much sense to loan Bogarde. He played a fair few games in a number of different positions last year, including some champions league games, so Emery clearly trusts him.🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
Which would be weird, it’s entirely against our interests to do that.
Too much noise for too long about our financial issues have everybody trying to take advantage. That said, the Spurs motto comes to mind, 'if you don't ask the answer is always no'.
I think it’s Bogarde’s turn for a loan to Valencia and we test Barrenchea in the PL. Ideally we need one of them to step up so we have a decent insurance policy for Kamara.
Jackson from Chelsea in - Watkins out
I’m not suggesting selling, I think it’s important that they both play 30+ games this season so they’re ready for 26/27. Therefore one needs a loan. Barrenchea did that last year and needs time in the UK to acclimatise.
Jackson from Chelsea in - Watkins out
£100mill priced Jackson in? How much are we selling Watkins for?
🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.
@CLMerlo
Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
Which would be weird, it’s entirely against our interests to do that.
Too much noise for too long about our financial issues have everybody trying to take advantage. That said, the Spurs motto comes to mind, 'if you don't ask the answer is always no'.
Here's the alternative line-to-take.UPDATE: It's been reported here Benfica are looking to offer us €10m for him though we want €12m, apparently we bought him last summer for €7m. There's no other offer on the table despite interest from Valencia and Porto.Too much noise for too long about our financial issues have everybody trying to take advantage. That said, the Spurs motto comes to mind, 'if you don't ask the answer is always no'.Which would be weird, it’s entirely against our interests to do that.🚨 NEW: Benfica are moving forward to sign Enzo Barrenechea on a permanent deal.Saw the rumour the other day and Benfica want him on the cheap, basically the £8m we paid for him. They can piss off.
@CLMerloIf it's true I hope we have a 50% sell on clause. Maybe we should give him a chance to succeed in a Villa shirt, given that we're only talking about €12m for a kid who is on the verge of the Argentinian full squad
UPDATE: It's been reported here Benfica are looking to offer us €10m for him though we want €12m, apparently we bought him last summer for €7m. There's no other offer on the table despite interest from Valencia and Porto. If it's true I hope we have a 50% sell on clause.
I just don’t see why a deal of that nature is that beneficial from a PSR perspective to make it worthwhile for us. If it was £20m odd I get it, but we’d be better to hang onto him if it’s a negligible profit.correct
We don't just have to worry about PSR we need to make a profit this transfer window.We won't bring anyone in, until we move someone out. We can't take the risk of signing players only to find out we can't shift the ones we don't want.
We don't just have to worry about PSR we need to make a profit this transfer window.
We don't just have to worry about PSR we need to make a profit this transfer window.
And I still maintain the same position on that. It’s a daft deal for that purpose too at the quoted figures.
We've already signed two players, albeit one on a free, and looks like another will be joining shortly. Not sure if signing-on fees etc count. We have only sold KKH unless I have forgotten anyone.
We've already signed two players, albeit one on a free, and looks like another will be joining shortly. Not sure if signing-on fees etc count. We have only sold KKH unless I have forgotten anyone.
Few more gone off payroll since last season - Olsen, Hause, Coutinho. Unlikely to impact things all that much PSR wise if we just paid up remainder of PC's contract.
If Bailey goes in next few days, should give us some headroom to get at least one quality player in.
We've already signed two players, albeit one on a free, and looks like another will be joining shortly. Not sure if signing-on fees etc count. We have only sold KKH unless I have forgotten anyone.
Few more gone off payroll since last season - Olsen, Hause, Coutinho. Unlikely to impact things all that much PSR wise if we just paid up remainder of PC's contract.
If Bailey goes in next few days, should give us some headroom to get at least one quality player in.
Yes but we have to make a profit as result of the ruling the other week, the wage bill thing is (yet another!) different issue.
You can't expect me to know stuff! That sounds a lot better if so.
The wording of the restrictions doesn't suggest amortisation is part of it, seems like a basic costs Vs income calculation.If so, it is clunky and completely inconsistent with accounting practice.
The wording of the restrictions doesn't suggest amortisation is part of it, seems like a basic costs Vs income calculation.If so, it is clunky and completely inconsistent with accounting practice.
Given the constraints we have to now work under. It would be a really convenient time for some of the youngsters to step up into the first team squad. The Europa League would give an ideal opportunity to blood a few of them. Unfortunately I'm not aware that any are ready.
Assuming we can move on or loan out, Buendia, Dendonker, Barrenechea, Barry, Moreno, Nedejkovic, Bogarde, Dobin & Iling-Junior. We won't lose anything from our first choice squad. Only Bogarde made any notable contribution last season.
As a minimum we'll need a right side centre back, a number 10 & a first choice wide attacker.
Given the constraints we have to now work under. It would be a really convenient time for some of the youngsters to step up into the first team squad. The Europa League would give an ideal opportunity to blood a few of them. Unfortunately I'm not aware that any are ready.
Assuming we can move on or loan out, Buendia, Dendonker, Barrenechea, Barry, Moreno, Nedejkovic, Bogarde, Dobin & Iling-Junior. We won't lose anything from our first choice squad. Only Bogarde made any notable contribution last season.
As a minimum we'll need a right side centre back, a number 10 & a first choice wide attacker.
I think that is a tad harsh on Nedejkovic and Barrenechea both of whom performed well in pre season and had very successful loan spells at a good level.
Assuming we can move on or loan out, Buendia, Dendonker, Barrenechea, Barry, Moreno, Nedejkovic, Bogarde, Dobin & Iling-Junior. We won't lose anything from our first choice squad. Only Bogarde made any notable contribution last season.
I think that is a tad harsh on Nedejkovic and Barrenechea both of whom performed well in pre season and had very successful loan spells at a good level.
Assuming we can move on or loan out, Buendia, Dendonker, Barrenechea, Barry, Moreno, Nedejkovic, Bogarde, Dobin & Iling-Junior. We won't lose anything from our first choice squad. Only Bogarde made any notable contribution last season.
I think that is a tad harsh on Nedejkovic and Barrenechea both of whom performed well in pre season and had very successful loan spells at a good level.
They didn't contribute anything to our season, which is the point.
Given the constraints we have to now work under. It would be a really convenient time for some of the youngsters to step up into the first team squad. The Europa League would give an ideal opportunity to blood a few of them. Unfortunately I'm not aware that any are ready.
Assuming we can move on or loan out, Buendia, Dendonker, Barrenechea, Barry, Moreno, Nedejkovic, Bogarde, Dobin & Iling-Junior. We won't lose anything from our first choice squad. Only Bogarde made any notable contribution last season.
As a minimum we'll need a right side centre back, a number 10 & a first choice wide attacker.
I think that is a tad harsh on Nedejkovic and Barrenechea both of whom performed well in pre season and had very successful loan spells at a good level.
Nedejkovic was replaced mid-season by Garcia, according to the Athletic the club are actively trying to flog him.
The only way to overcome the odds is to buy cheap or to develop your own & sell for a profit. But that takes time, patience & a bit of good luck. As far as I know, they've not yet come up with anything to restrict teams doing that, but I'm sure they will in the event it ever becomes a possibility.
The only way to overcome the odds is to buy cheap or to develop your own & sell for a profit. But that takes time, patience & a bit of good luck. As far as I know, they've not yet come up with anything to restrict teams doing that, but I'm sure they will in the event it ever becomes a possibility.
I am on holiday this week and away , i demand we sign a number of players.
With the financial tightrope we’re walking I’d be surprised if we make a major outlay on a central midfielder - unless someone is leaving of course.
I think I read somewhere that after the goalkeeper we are after another defender and a winger. That needs to be a right sided defender.
I think if we can keep the main squad together this summer, we'll not have done badly at all. The squad we have ... is pretty good. It's clear we're under some tight restrictions in terms of what we can do, so not getting worse is not a terrible outcome.
Another season or two of walking the FFP tightrope feels inevitable at this stage. However, it's a necessary step if we want to move in to the group of clubs for whom PSR/FFP/SCR/Whatever isn't a thing they worry about.
I think I read somewhere that after the goalkeeper we are after another defender and a winger. That needs to be a right sided defender.
Those are the logical positions to target. We have no real back-up for Konsa; and we need a pacy option on the wing.
Ideally, we'd have upgraded Cash too and have another striker to backup Watkins/come off the bench.
I think I read somewhere that after the goalkeeper we are after another defender and a winger. That needs to be a right sided defender.
Those are the logical positions to target. We have no real back-up for Konsa; and we need a pacy option on the wing.
Ideally, we'd have upgraded Cash too and have another striker to backup Watkins/come off the bench.
So neither Malen nor Zephaquino fit the bill?
Connor Gallagher? Doesn't exactly send the pulse racing and it's a no from me.
Zero is not a natural number and I hope zero people disagree with that.I am on holiday this week and away , i demand we sign a number of players.We’ll 100% sign a number of players in next fortnight…quite possible that number is zero tho
Odds have massively dropped today on Grealish joining from 15/1 to 4/1 with us as favourites now. Not claiming ‘in the know’, I was advised by someone 2 weeks ago that works in a bookies to put all money on Grealish to Villa as it’s already adone deal. As a caveat here, I’m not pro a Grealish return, but a nice return off £20 would be nice.
Odds have massively dropped today on Grealish joining from 15/1 to 4/1 with us as favourites now. Not claiming ‘in the know’, I was advised by someone 2 weeks ago that works in a bookies to put all money on Grealish to Villa as it’s already adone deal. As a caveat here, I’m not pro a Grealish return, but a nice return off £20 would be nice.
Still 14/1 with BetMGM and Unibet (for Grealish to be at Villa on 1st September) if you're really confident.
Odds have massively dropped today on Grealish joining from 15/1 to 4/1 with us as favourites now. Not claiming ‘in the know’, I was advised by someone 2 weeks ago that works in a bookies to put all money on Grealish to Villa as it’s already adone deal. As a caveat here, I’m not pro a Grealish return, but a nice return off £20 would be nice.Bookies don't have much history of giving punters inside information to enable them to take money off Bookies.
Odds have massively dropped today on Grealish joining from 15/1 to 4/1 with us as favourites now. Not claiming ‘in the know’, I was advised by someone 2 weeks ago that works in a bookies to put all money on Grealish to Villa as it’s already adone deal. As a caveat here, I’m not pro a Grealish return, but a nice return off £20 would be nice.
3/1 now on Bet 365
I wasn’t taking any notice, but as it’s a live topic, Elliot’s odds to join us have gone from 18/1 to 11/4 apparently*.
*only saw it on twitter, no research.
Odds have massively dropped today on Grealish joining from 15/1 to 4/1 with us as favourites now. Not claiming ‘in the know’, I was advised by someone 2 weeks ago that works in a bookies to put all money on Grealish to Villa as it’s already adone deal. As a caveat here, I’m not pro a Grealish return, but a nice return off £20 would be nice.Didn't he declare his undying love for C115y and their fans at the weekend ? This could mean the move is on based on history
Is he any good?Used to be
Harvey Elliott won player of the tournament when England won the Under 21's this summer. There's clearly a good player in there. Think he was used more as a 10 with England.Good player , bit Barry Bannan like
harshHarvey Elliott won player of the tournament when England won the Under 21's this summer. There's clearly a good player in there. Think he was used more as a 10 with England.Good player , bit Barry Bannan like
Good player , bit Barry Bannan like
harsh
Record in Portugal seem to be reporting that Benfica have agreed a €15M fee for Enzo Barrenechea.That sounds like a very low-ball fee.
Record in Portugal seem to be reporting that Benfica have agreed a €15M fee for Enzo Barrenechea.That sounds like a very low-ball fee.
Have the people that think it's a low fee ever seen him play?
I would take Grealish on loan so long as City were paying fifty percent of his wages.and his bar tab.
I would take Grealish on loan so long as City were paying fifty percent of his wages.
Francisco Conceição is still available until tomorrow for £25m from Porto, thereafter the fee rises to €45m. Juventus want him but don't have the money, Everton do and he turned them down. As much as I hate the little shithead for stamping on Ramsey's foot, I may have different feelings if he were to wear a Villa shirt.
Right winger, 22 years old, already tonnes of experience, £25m seems a bargain for a position we're desperate to fill.
Have the people that think it's a low fee ever seen him play?I'm not quite sure why he's apparently rated as highly as he is on here. Admiteddely I've never seen him play, so I could be grossly underestimating the guy ...
^^ Good points, but he has been called up to the Argentina squad.
I’d like to see Grealish back, wasted at that mortuary of individualism.
50% uplift on Barrenechea is good business. When you at far Luiz’s star has fallen at Juve, it seems the deal we did was not so bad after all.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
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We will take all of your Gibbs White money please.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
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Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
Have you stopped watching games for the past 2 years?
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
Why would we move on one our best players in the squad to accommodate a player Emery appears to have little interest in?
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
Have you stopped watching games for the past 2 years?
He has had some good ones, but just as many innefectual performances. I accept a lot of that is down to recovering from injuries, but if I was sacrificing one of him, Kamara, Martinez or Tielemans for FFP I'd pick Ramsey.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
Have you stopped watching games for the past 2 years?
He has had some good ones, but just as many innefectual performances. I accept a lot of that is down to recovering from injuries, but if I was sacrificing one of him, Kamara, Martinez or Tielemans for FFP I'd pick Ramsey.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
Why would we move on one our best players in the squad to accommodate a player Emery appears to have little interest in?
Because he is the best talent we have produced since Gary Shaw, and would light Villa Park up. Not suggesting it is likely mind.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
Have you stopped watching games for the past 2 years?
He has had some good ones, but just as many innefectual performances. I accept a lot of that is down to recovering from injuries, but if I was sacrificing one of him, Kamara, Martinez or Tielemans for FFP I'd pick Ramsey.
So even if you were right, which for avoidance of doubt you're not, with regards to Ramsey- Grealish is somehow the answer, despite JJ only playing 100 minutes less league football last season than Grealish had in his previous two combined.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Ramsey out and Grealish in? - yes please. Ramsey has promise but hasn't shown any of it for two years now.
I’d actually be gutted if this happened. I’ve grown to dislike Grealish since he left and also think he’s a shadow of his former self now anyway.
I may be entirely wrong, but Grealish strikes me as someone who has maxed out and is very much on the way down. I would avoid.
£8m loan for 4 goals and 2 assists in 2 years. Are you mad?Who?
3/1 now on Bet 365
Still 11/1 with Paddy Power. Napoli are 5/2, Newcastle 7/2, so let's see if there's any sudden movement.
When asked about the Sevilla player, the Spaniard wasted no time in dismissing claims of Aston Villa interest in the France international. He also explained why the Premier League club are no longer considering Badé.
“We’re not looking for that type of player. We tried to sign him in the winter transfer window, but right now we’re not at that level of player,” he said.
Monchi never said that - poor translation
Monchi, on Bade: "We are not looking for that type of player profile. It is true that in the winter transfer market he was a player we tried to sign, but as of today, he does not fit the player profile we are seeking."
Monchi never said that - poor translation
Monchi, on Bade: "We are not looking for that type of player profile. It is true that in the winter transfer market he was a player we tried to sign, but as of today, he does not fit the player profile we are seeking."
Monchi never said that - poor translation
Monchi, on Bade: "We are not looking for that type of player profile. It is true that in the winter transfer market he was a player we tried to sign, but as of today, he does not fit the player profile we are seeking."
That’s sounds like a pretty similar message.
By "player profile" he could just mean "defender who spent the second half of the season conceding loads of goals while pissing around in a relegation battle".
But Monchi is always going to be a bit more diplomatic than suggesting the player is now shite. So, I reckon he's hinting to the market not to expect us to be paying inflated fees to anyone, for anyone.
Monchi never said that - poor translation
Monchi, on Bade: "We are not looking for that type of player profile. It is true that in the winter transfer market he was a player we tried to sign, but as of today, he does not fit the player profile we are seeking."
That’s sounds like a pretty similar message.
If he means a player who thinks he's better suited to playing in Spain or Italy and the Premier League is not for him, I get Monchi's point.
Not necessarily, I'd read the latter as usual looking for someone to cover Konsa rather than compete for the spot, which was the aim in January when we were chasing another year in the CL.We managed to cover ok with Carlos and Lenglet covering in previous years. Konsa, Mings and Torres is a bit light. Be interesting to see what sort of CB comes in - I'd expect it could be one who can play RB too
"we can't attract decent players after we didn't get UCL"
Cheers Monchi
Jack would suit us to a T right now. Emery wants us to retain and control possession especially In attacking 3rd. Jack carrying, holding, cutting inside, Maatsen over lap or underlap runs..
That being said. Unless Man City are willing to massively pay a chunk of his wages then it’s never gonna happen
Whoever gets jack mind will be onto a winner this season imo he will be doing upmost to get into WC squad
"we can't attract decent players after we didn't get UCL"
Cheers Monchi
"we can't attract decent players after we didn't get UCL"
Cheers Monchi
Jack would suit us to a T right now. Emery wants us to retain and control possession especially In attacking 3rd. Jack carrying, holding, cutting inside, Maatsen over lap or underlap runs..
That being said. Unless Man City are willing to massively pay a chunk of his wages then it’s never gonna happen
Whoever gets jack mind will be onto a winner this season imo he will be doing upmost to get into WC squad
Agreed 💯 , he can play on left or at 10, rotating with likes of Ramsey, Rogers and even McGinn. Far more tactically flexible than Asensio for example. Would definitely suit Maatsen's development, not sure about Digne to be honest as he doesn't overlap much. Citeh are going to have to heavily subsidise his next move either way, Gibbs-White going to Spurs rules them out as an option. Grealish's star has fallen quite a bit, don't see the other PL teams in the CL interested.
Emery has the experience to manage a complex enough character like him. Don't see any downside to his return if the finances can work. More risk of him cruising after the WC, not before.
Jack would suit us to a T right now. Emery wants us to retain and control possession especially In attacking 3rd. Jack carrying, holding, cutting inside, Maatsen over lap or underlap runs..
Monchi never said that - poor translation
Monchi, on Bade: "We are not looking for that type of player profile. It is true that in the winter transfer market he was a player we tried to sign, but as of today, he does not fit the player profile we are seeking."
That’s sounds like a pretty similar message.
If he means a player who thinks he's better suited to playing in Spain or Italy and the Premier League is not for him, I get Monchi's point.
If we hadn’t looked to sign him in January that’d make sense.
£8m loan for 4 goals and 2 assists in 2 years. Are you mad?Who?
As much as I love Ollie, I'd chop their hands off for £90m!
He’d be excellent. £40M for a 22 year old that just had a superb tournament for England and loads of room to improve in front of him. The experience of playing for the league champions and how that will have developed him too.
He’d be excellent. £40M for a 22 year old that just had a superb tournament for England and loads of room to improve in front of him. The experience of playing for the league champions and how that will have developed him too.
Good player but doesn’t fit in our system IMO. Lacks the pace to play on the wing and too expensive to be Rogers’ understudy.
He’d be excellent. £40M for a 22 year old that just had a superb tournament for England and loads of room to improve in front of him. The experience of playing for the league champions and how that will have developed him too.
Good player but doesn’t fit in our system IMO. Lacks the pace to play on the wing and too expensive to be Rogers’ understudy.
He’d be excellent. £40M for a 22 year old that just had a superb tournament for England and loads of room to improve in front of him. The experience of playing for the league champions and how that will have developed him too.
Good player but doesn’t fit in our system IMO. Lacks the pace to play on the wing and too expensive to be Rogers’ understudy.
When do we play with wingers?
Elliott to Villa now gathering pace.
Who is reporting Watkins to Newcastle for £90m??
He’d be excellent. £40M for a 22 year old that just had a superb tournament for England and loads of room to improve in front of him. The experience of playing for the league champions and how that will have developed him too.
Good player but doesn’t fit in our system IMO. Lacks the pace to play on the wing and too expensive to be Rogers’ understudy.
When do we play with wingers?
The Bailey role. Liverpool fans complain about his pace and strength so don’t think he’s a good fit to replace either Bailey or Mcginn. Happy to be proven wrong of course.
Not that it matters but I don't get the hair thing. He seems to have naturally curly hair. What's the issue?
Emery wants Skeletor from man united
Emery wants Skeletor from man united
Emery wants Skeletor from man united
Who dat?
Emery wants Skeletor from man united
Who dat?
Bobby Charlton?
Sometimes the bookies get it right
Remember when Richard Dunn was 2/1 for weeks with the bookies and no one knew why, no links no talk no nothing
everyone thought it was rubbish
Then late on we signed him
Sometimes they just know stuff
5/4 now. It's happening isn't it.
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
£20m + Garnacho.
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
PP have us favourite to sign Grealish now. We were 4th or 5th yesterday. Could of course be a lot of people believing the rumours and lumping money on.
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PP have us favourite to sign Grealish now. We were 4th or 5th yesterday. Could of course be a lot of people believing the rumours and lumping money on.
Exactly...it's the kind of market a few speculative tenners could change. Then again I say that as someone who was stung badly by laying McLeish to become Villa manager that time!
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Obligation means he ain't coming back.
I guess they can't afford him this window so have structured it this way. Probably matches played clause incase his knees go again.
£20m + Garnacho.I'd be happy enough with that
Obligation means he ain't coming back.
I guess they can't afford him this window so have structured it this way. Probably matches played clause incase his knees go again.
under certain conditions so he may come back
We will want £40-£50M for Martinez, they will want £50-£60M for Garnaucho, if we can get anything like a swap deal for a player who wants to leave, for a potentially world class player like Garnaucho we will have done well.I think Garnacho under Emery could be superb for us. He has pace when he puts the afterburners on
Granted he’s looked poor in the last season, but that club is a right mess at the minute, if we can get him back on track we’ve got a £100M player on our hands.
PP have us favourite to sign Grealish now. We were 4th or 5th yesterday. Could of course be a lot of people believing the rumours and lumping money on.
Exactly...it's the kind of market a few speculative tenners could change. Then again I say that as someone who was stung badly by laying McLeish to become Villa manager that time!
I’m on gamstop now but when I was betting one of the bookies I think it was betfair used to show the total amount of money in any particular market that was down
I don’t know if it still does
I dunno mate you've got me there£8m loan for 4 goals and 2 assists in 2 years. Are you mad?Who?
Who's mad or who has shit stats?
We will want £40-£50M for Martinez, they will want £50-£60M for Garnaucho, if we can get anything like a swap deal for a player who wants to leave, for a potentially world class player like Garnaucho we will have done well.
Granted he’s looked poor in the last season, but that club is a right mess at the minute, if we can get him back on track we’ve got a £100M player on our hands.
My prediction: Martinez out and Garnacho in. Bailey out and that french keeper in. Cost neutral on fees but a reduction in wages and age profile.That’s my thinking as well, but I guess the devil is in the detail, which is why nothing happens quickly when we have to trade like this.
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Would be very sad to see him go, especially to those twats, but if it is happening I would rather get it over with than have it drag on making it more difficult to get a replacement in. Also, if he's going I'd rather they paid his wages when he can't play in the first week, anyway.
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Monchi and Vidagany are an absolute joke. Constantly selling our best players for peanuts and pissing about in Spain during a crucial transfer window. Get rid of the pair of them
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Would be very sad to see him go, especially to those twats, but if it is happening I would rather get it over with than have it drag on making it more difficult to get a replacement in. Also, if he's going I'd rather they paid his wages when he can't play in the first week, anyway.
Isnt a red card 3 games anyway?
Is Garnacho’s best position left wing?On the left was where he had his breakout season but I haven’t seen enough of him on the right to know how much of a difference changing wings makes.
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Monchi and Vidagany are an absolute joke. Constantly selling our best players for peanuts and pissing about in Spain during a crucial transfer window. Get rid of the pair of them
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And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Monchi and Vidagany are an absolute joke. Constantly selling our best players for peanuts and pissing about in Spain during a crucial transfer window. Get rid of the pair of them
Think that's very harsh. We have been on a strong upward curve, and had a great window in January. We had to let Luiz go last season, but Tielemans replaced him with aplomb. Onana, Maatsen and Malen will have big seasons this year now they have bedded in. I am optimistic they will do well this window too.
🚨 Louie Barry is expected to join Sheffield United on a season-long loan.Why do we keep doing them Neanderthals favours
@SkySportsLyall
Is Garnacho’s best position left wing?On the left was where he had his breakout season but I haven’t seen enough of him on the right to know how much of a difference changing wings makes.
Unai likes his players to be able to play in more than 1 position.
JUST IN: Manchester United have made a move for Emi Martinez with negotiations already underway with Aston Villa!
[@gastonedul] #MUFC
And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Would be very sad to see him go, especially to those twats, but if it is happening I would rather get it over with than have it drag on making it more difficult to get a replacement in. Also, if he's going I'd rather they paid his wages when he can't play in the first week, anyway.
Isnt a red card 3 games anyway?
It’s a 1 game ban for a professional foul, it would be 3 games if it was violent conductJUST IN: Manchester United have made a move for Emi Martinez with negotiations already underway with Aston Villa!
[@gastonedul] #MUFC
And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Would be very sad to see him go, especially to those twats, but if it is happening I would rather get it over with than have it drag on making it more difficult to get a replacement in. Also, if he's going I'd rather they paid his wages when he can't play in the first week, anyway.
Isnt a red card 3 games anyway?
Its done out of sense of guilt for THAT game where we only stayed up because of faulty goal line technology and they only went down because of it. Everyone knows that's how the universe works.🚨 Louie Barry is expected to join Sheffield United on a season-long loan.Why do we keep doing them Neanderthals favours
@SkySportsLyall
He's a resident troll. Just ignore.
Good point. I'd forgotten about that .Its done out of sense of guilt for THAT game where we only stayed up because of faulty goal line technology and they only went down because of it. Everyone knows that's how the universe works.🚨 Louie Barry is expected to join Sheffield United on a season-long loan.Why do we keep doing them Neanderthals favours
@SkySportsLyall
Its done out of sense of guilt for THAT game where we only stayed up because of faulty goal line technology and they only went down because of it. Everyone knows that's how the universe works.🚨 Louie Barry is expected to join Sheffield United on a season-long loan.Why do we keep doing them Neanderthals favours
@SkySportsLyall
Its done out of sense of guilt for THAT game where we only stayed up because of faulty goal line technology and they only went down because of it. Everyone knows that's how the universe works.🚨 Louie Barry is expected to join Sheffield United on a season-long loan.Why do we keep doing them Neanderthals favours
@SkySportsLyall
Except that they finished 20 points above the relegation zone that season.....
Sheffield United have never looked a particularly exciting or attacking team anytime I've seen them. Granted, that was mainly when they were getting their arses handed to them in the Premier League. I see they finished 3rd last season, so it could be a decent move for him. Injury free I'd imagine this is the last loan for him? If he's not knocking on the first team door by next summer he'll probably be off.
This is a bit dramatic, not sure if it was sarcastic... I think they've got a tough gig, which, could be partly their own doing, did they do enough last summer to give us a realistic chance of getting into the Champions League again? Rashford and Asensio in Jan suggested not - however, dips in form by Martinez, Bailey etc was slightly unexpected, especially Emi - which meant January was important to do more than we may have forecast. I think they need a better summer this time around. But, with no CL, and a wage bill that needs trimming, they've certainly got to do better.JUST IN: Manchester United have made a move for Emi Martinez with negotiations already underway with Aston Villa!
[@gastonedul] #MUFC
And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Monchi and Vidagany are an absolute joke. Constantly selling our best players for peanuts and pissing about in Spain during a crucial transfer window. Get rid of the pair of them
The rumours from the last 24 hours are that our entire first team is being sold then.We should have signed Duran on loan :D
Sheffield United have never played good football, they always just lump it up to the big men.
They're the epitome of dour.
BCVillian is a boring troll. I think we all know what BC stands for and then there's his hilarious word twist where he calls himself a Villain when us villa fans are usually known as Villans.This is a bit dramatic, not sure if it was sarcastic... I think they've got a tough gig, which, could be partly their own doing, did they do enough last summer to give us a realistic chance of getting into the Champions League again? Rashford and Asensio in Jan suggested not - however, dips in form by Martinez, Bailey etc was slightly unexpected, especially Emi - which meant January was important to do more than we may have forecast. I think they need a better summer this time around. But, with no CL, and a wage bill that needs trimming, they've certainly got to do better.JUST IN: Manchester United have made a move for Emi Martinez with negotiations already underway with Aston Villa!
[@gastonedul] #MUFC
And so it begins. I want £60m I will take £35m.
Monchi and Vidagany are an absolute joke. Constantly selling our best players for peanuts and pissing about in Spain during a crucial transfer window. Get rid of the pair of them
Not necessarily, I'd read the latter as usual looking for someone to cover Konsa rather than compete for the spot, which was the aim in January when we were chasing another year in the CL.
Going into the season having Konsa and Mings fighting for two spots along with Torres doesn't fill me with excitement to be honest.
We will want £40-£50M for Martinez, they will want £50-£60M for Garnaucho, if we can get anything like a swap deal for a player who wants to leave, for a potentially world class player like Garnaucho we will have done well.
Granted he’s looked poor in the last season, but that club is a right mess at the minute, if we can get him back on track we’ve got a £100M player on our hands.
Ramsey would still play plenty of games, but your cup final/big games 3 behind Watkins would be Garnacho/Rogers/McGinn I would think, with Ramsey & Malen ready in waiting.We will want £40-£50M for Martinez, they will want £50-£60M for Garnaucho, if we can get anything like a swap deal for a player who wants to leave, for a potentially world class player like Garnaucho we will have done well.
Granted he’s looked poor in the last season, but that club is a right mess at the minute, if we can get him back on track we’ve got a £100M player on our hands.
According to Goldbridge via sources in Argentina, we only want £40m and the plastic tossers are offering £33m for Emi. A straight swap for Garnacho seems unlikely but even if it were, you have the issue of what would you do with Jacob Ramsey?
Mohamed Abdoul Kader Koné, 17. Defensive midfielder from Côte d'Ivoire.
https://africafoot.com/livoirien-mohamed-kone-en-route-vers-aston-villa/
Translation:
Considered one of the greatest hopes of Ivorian football, Mohamed Abdoul Kader Koné is preparing to reach an important milestone in his young career. The ASEC Mimosas defensive midfielder is expected in the coming days at Aston Villa.
Spotted by the English club during the Mimosas tour in Birmingham, the player, who will celebrate his 18th birthday on July 3, 2025, is about to officially commit to the Villans. According to exclusive information from Africafoot, the signing of the contract is imminent. Koné has already distinguished himself with the first team of the ASEC Mimosas in the CAF Cup, where he got his first minutes of play. He also distinguished himself with the U20 selection of Côte d'Ivoire, playing five matches under the colours of the Elephants.
Unless the last-minute turnaround is unlikely, according to several sources close to the file, Mohamed Koné should rally England this summer to start a new adventure with Aston Villa.
They probably value Garnacho at £60m too.
They probably value Garnacho at £60m too.
There is no way or justification to pay that sort of money for him.
Irrespective of who he plays for, apart from one worldie of a goal all i see is a very self centred, selfish footballer - more often than not he goes for goal rather than picking the better option. Dubbed as another "next best thing" i just dont think he has ever lived up to the hype around him.
Would much prefer a Martinelli, Trossard or Hudson-Odoi or even better get Ramsay back up the form we know he has
And dont get me started on the hair and comedy eyebrows
Mohamed Abdoul Kader Koné, 17. Defensive midfielder from Côte d'Ivoire.
https://africafoot.com/livoirien-mohamed-kone-en-route-vers-aston-villa/
Translation:
Considered one of the greatest hopes of Ivorian football, Mohamed Abdoul Kader Koné is preparing to reach an important milestone in his young career. The ASEC Mimosas defensive midfielder is expected in the coming days at Aston Villa.
Spotted by the English club during the Mimosas tour in Birmingham, the player, who will celebrate his 18th birthday on July 3, 2025, is about to officially commit to the Villans. According to exclusive information from Africafoot, the signing of the contract is imminent. Koné has already distinguished himself with the first team of the ASEC Mimosas in the CAF Cup, where he got his first minutes of play. He also distinguished himself with the U20 selection of Côte d'Ivoire, playing five matches under the colours of the Elephants.
Unless the last-minute turnaround is unlikely, according to several sources close to the file, Mohamed Koné should rally England this summer to start a new adventure with Aston Villa.
This chap played for a Villa XI against Leamingon yesterday, so I assume he signed in the end.
They probably value Garnacho at £60m too.
There is no way or justification to pay that sort of money for him.
Irrespective of who he plays for, apart from one worldie of a goal all i see is a very self centred, selfish footballer - more often than not he goes for goal rather than picking the better option.
We have fine youths too right?
They probably value Garnacho at £60m too.
There is no way or justification to pay that sort of money for him.
Irrespective of who he plays for, apart from one worldie of a goal all i see is a very self centred, selfish footballer - more often than not he goes for goal rather than picking the better option.
He's younger than Jhon Duran, and pretty much everything in your post could apply to him as well.
How much should we have sold Duran for, given there's no way the £70m we got, or even £60m could be justified?
Looks like we are selling our academy kids and replacing them with recruited youngsters. Interesting policy.Don’t think that is necessarily the case…we are moving on players when they are 21/22 which is when they should be playing first team football so should be moved on to allow the next group chances
They probably value Garnacho at £60m too.
There is no way or justification to pay that sort of money for him.
Irrespective of who he plays for, apart from one worldie of a goal all i see is a very self centred, selfish footballer - more often than not he goes for goal rather than picking the better option.
He's younger than Jhon Duran, and pretty much everything in your post could apply to him as well.
How much should we have sold Duran for, given there's no way the £70m we got, or even £60m could be justified?
Duran is/was one of the best striker prospects in European football, on talent alone. When you look at the fees for the likes of Hojlund and Solanke, you could argue we sold him too cheap.
where do you register, online , post office ?Not sure but I have just seen Monchi walking into the Birmingham Registry Office, make what you like of that🤷🏽♂️
🚨 NEW: Fenerbahçe are set to make a loan offer with a mandatory purchase option for Leon Bailey.massive if true!!!1!
@sporx
Stop loaning people FFS, we need money this window.
where do you register, online , post office ?With the police, I believe
Stop loaning people FFS, we need money this window.
🚨 NEW: Fenerbahçe are set to make a loan offer with a mandatory purchase option for Leon Bailey.
@sporx
^^ The article says they’re not prepared to meet that valuation.
Personally I think a firing Bailey would be hard to replace. Yes we know hie injury/confidence levels are suspect but when he’s on fire he’s a world beater. So do we let him go for less than we paid or do we give him one more season?I don’t think one good season in four warrants a fifth.
Just saw something from Matt Law saying something along the lines of "I've been told by people on the outside that if Villa go for Nicolas Jackson it will trigger an immediate bid from Chelsea for Morgan Rogers"
On what f**king planet does any of that make sense for us?
Just saw something from Matt Law saying something along the lines of "I've been told by people on the outside that if Villa go for Nicolas Jackson it will trigger an immediate bid from Chelsea for Morgan Rogers"
On what f**king planet does any of that make sense for us?
Best not bid for Nicolas Jackson then. Problem solved.
Is it not just something like we're good for PSR at the moment, but the wage ratio is the imminent problem? So for us it's actually beneficial to shift the wages off the books this season, but receive the money next season so it lasts longer in the amortisation calculations?
Is it not just something like we're good for PSR at the moment, but the wage ratio is the imminent problem? So for us it's actually beneficial to shift the wages off the books this season, but receive the money next season so it lasts longer in the amortisation calculations?
Is it not just something like we're good for PSR at the moment, but the wage ratio is the imminent problem? So for us it's actually beneficial to shift the wages off the books this season, but receive the money next season so it lasts longer in the amortisation calculations?
It is, but we basically need to record a profit on transfer to register any new players first Europe. So we need transfer fees in too, if we’re planning to buy anyone of any real quality.
Is it not just something like we're good for PSR at the moment, but the wage ratio is the imminent problem? So for us it's actually beneficial to shift the wages off the books this season, but receive the money next season so it lasts longer in the amortisation calculations?
It is, but we basically need to record a profit on transfer to register any new players first Europe. So we need transfer fees in too, if we’re planning to buy anyone of any real quality.
6th place Premier League finish, FA Cup semi final, Champions League 1/4 final, sold Duran for gbp70 mill plus others including Carlos in January yet we are acting as if we don't have a pot to piss in. The season starts 4 weeks on Saturday ffs.I agree with this sentiment, although I’d say it ‘feels’ like we don’t have a pot to piss in, rather than we are acting like it.
6th place Premier League finish, FA Cup semi final, Champions League 1/4 final, sold Duran for gbp70 mill plus others including Carlos in January yet we are acting as if we don't have a pot to piss in. The season starts 4 weeks on Saturday ffs.I agree with this sentiment, although I’d say it ‘feels’ like we don’t have a pot to piss in, rather than we are acting like it.
6th place Premier League finish, FA Cup semi final, Champions League 1/4 final, sold Duran for gbp70 mill plus others including Carlos in January yet we are acting as if we don't have a pot to piss in. The season starts 4 weeks on Saturday ffs.I agree with this sentiment, although I’d say it ‘feels’ like we don’t have a pot to piss in, rather than we are acting like it.
You are confusing rules with money. We like the Geordies have more than enough money but the bastards who had less money than us before the bridge was pulled up have now fucked us all over
Is it not just something like we're good for PSR at the moment, but the wage ratio is the imminent problem? So for us it's actually beneficial to shift the wages off the books this season, but receive the money next season so it lasts longer in the amortisation calculations?
It is, but we basically need to record a profit on transfer to register any new players first Europe. So we need transfer fees in too, if we’re planning to buy anyone of any real quality.
It doesn't look like we are, if we're to believe Monchi.
I'm off to Australia and New Zealand for a month on saturday (via the US) if we haven't doen anything when I get back I may start to worry, but its early days yet.Amateur mistake there, Ashton mate. The US is to the west of us on the map, right over on that top left hand side, and New Zealand is all the way over on the far right of the map, down in that bottom corner.
🚨 Aston Villa are understood to have now registered their interest in Manchester United winger Alejandro Garnacho.Good news
@ChrisWheelerDM
6th place Premier League finish, FA Cup semi final, Champions League 1/4 final, sold Duran for gbp70 mill plus others including Carlos in January yet we are acting as if we don't have a pot to piss in. The season starts 4 weeks on Saturday ffs.
I'm off to Australia and New Zealand for a month on saturday (via the US) if we haven't doen anything when I get back I may start to worry, but its early days yet.Amateur mistake there, Ashton mate. The US is to the west of us on the map, right over on that top left hand side, and New Zealand is all the way over on the far right of the map, down in that bottom corner.
(https://www.mapsofworld.com/maps/world-map.jpg)
See? You’ll end up having to fly back over Britain to get there!! You’d be better off going via somewhere like India, at least that’s in the right direction!
Yeah? Well I once had a work meeting in Nuneaton.
See, we can all show off if we want to.
My wife is freaking out about flying over the middle east so want to fly the other way. Routing through Houston as I can visit my US manufacturing plant and show the kids a bit of Texas.
Taking the family with me on this one, they get to spend a few weeks by the pool in the sunshine coast whilst I travel around. Get to do some stuff with them at the weekends.
Three days in Texas visit my manufacturer and stay by lake Conroe (nice area for hiking), one week in North Island visiting avocado and kiwi fruit farmers, some researchers and some distributor training. Taking the kids to see Hobbiton and some rainforest. Then drop them in Queensland and I have do a week in WA, week in Tasmania, rest in Queensland. Then week in South Island meeting apple, pea, blackcurrant, potato and grape farmers (taking the kids to the Antarctic centre), then back through Houston for a few days (taking the kids to the Space centre).
Busy few weeks.
No, we must make a profit on "List A" players.
Yeah? Well I once had a work meeting in Nuneaton.
See, we can all show off if we want to.
Lucky you, I’ve rarely left Pensnett in a 31 year working life.
I'm off to Australia and New Zealand for a month on saturday (via the US) if we haven't doen anything when I get back I may start to worry, but its early days yet.Amateur mistake there, Ashton mate. The US is to the west of us on the map, right over on that top left hand side, and New Zealand is all the way over on the far right of the map, down in that bottom corner.
(https://www.mapsofworld.com/maps/world-map.jpg)
See? You’ll end up having to fly back over Britain to get there!! You’d be better off going via somewhere like India, at least that’s in the right direction!
My wife is freaking out about flying over the middle east so want to fly the other way. Routing through Houston as I can visit my US manufacturing plant and show the kids a bit of Texas.
Taking the family with me on this one, they get to spend a few weeks by the pool in the sunshine coast whilst I travel around. Get to do some stuff with them at the weekends.
Three days in Texas visit my manufacturer and stay by lake Conroe (nice area for hiking), one week in North Island visiting avocado and kiwi fruit farmers, some researchers and some distributor training. Taking the kids to see Hobbiton and some rainforest. Then drop them in Queensland and I have do a week in WA, week in Tasmania, rest in Queensland. Then week in South Island meeting apple, pea, blackcurrant, potato and grape farmers (taking the kids to the Antarctic centre), then back through Houston for a few days (taking the kids to the Space centre).
Busy few weeks.
So you're coming to my sunny Christchurch then.
So you're coming to my sunny Christchurch then. Wrap up warm it's freezing here at the moment (it is in the middle of Winter though).
Apparently Duran failed to turn up for first day of pre-season training with Fenerbache. Mourinho not happy. That £65m we got looking pretty good right now.
So you're coming to my sunny Christchurch then. Wrap up warm it's freezing here at the moment (it is in the middle of Winter though).
I grew up near where ‘Hobbiton’ is, and my first thought is ‘poor bastards, take a raincoat and extra clothes because it’s always miserable and wet there in winter ’ 😂
That's why I can see us selling at least one or two players and bringing in a big name player like Garnacho or Grealish on loan. We could really do with actual money, though, not loaning players out and waiting on vague promises of future payment.My understanding is the loaning is a tactic - we’re ok from a spend point - but need to lower the wage bill - so that why the loans are ok - particularly with the obligation to buy next summer
So you're coming to my sunny Christchurch then. Wrap up warm it's freezing here at the moment (it is in the middle of Winter though).
I grew up near where ‘Hobbiton’ is, and my first thought is ‘poor bastards, take a raincoat and extra clothes because it’s always miserable and wet there in winter ’ 😂
That's why I can see us selling at least one or two players and bringing in a big name player like Garnacho or Grealish on loan. We could really do with actual money, though, not loaning players out and waiting on vague promises of future payment.My understanding is the loaning is a tactic - we’re ok from a spend point - but need to lower the wage bill - so that why the loans are ok - particularly with the obligation to buy next summer
I thought Europe was all done on the wages?That's why I can see us selling at least one or two players and bringing in a big name player like Garnacho or Grealish on loan. We could really do with actual money, though, not loaning players out and waiting on vague promises of future payment.My understanding is the loaning is a tactic - we’re ok from a spend point - but need to lower the wage bill - so that why the loans are ok - particularly with the obligation to buy next summer
I don’t think we’re ok from a spend point in terms of registration for European competition - or if we want to sign any one and include them in the squad the outgoing sum has to net out against the incoming sum (or better).
So far since the end of the season, on the internet I have read articles suggesting that we may sell Martinez, Cash ,Konsa, Digne, Kamara, McGinn, Ramsey, Rogers, Watkins and Bailey. Looks like we may need Dendoncker. Oh! And Emery may seek a new challenge. Mrs TOAP is trying to hide sharp objects.
NEW: Aston Villa are set to sign LASK defender Modou Kéba Cissé (19) for €5m — he will go back on loan for a season.That's two 18-year old centre backs that we've been strongly linked with, added to the 19-year old that we've already signed. Players based in Turkey, France and Austria - it certainly suggests that our scouting networks are working well.
@SkySportAustria
NEW: Aston Villa are set to sign LASK defender Modou Kéba Cissé (19) for €5m — he will go back on loan for a season.That's two 18-year old centre backs that we've been strongly linked with, added to the 19-year old that we've already signed. Players based in Turkey, France and Austria - it certainly suggests that our scouting networks are working well.
@SkySportAustria
NEW: Aston Villa are set to sign LASK defender Modou Kéba Cissé (19) for €5m — he will go back on loan for a season.That's two 18-year old centre backs that we've been strongly linked with, added to the 19-year old that we've already signed. Players based in Turkey, France and Austria - it certainly suggests that our scouting networks are working well.
@SkySportAustria
If they turn out to be any good. I'm not passing judgement as I, and I suspect most other posters, know absolutely nothing about any of them.
Hope his career is every bit as successful as Dan Crowley's.
I’d be pretty confident we’ve got the cash to spend, this isn’t some Ellis or Lerner austerity drive, it’s being allowed to spend it within the confines of the regulations that’s the issue.
I was thinking about this earlier.
Let's assume the profit we have to turn this summer is amortised profit, does that mean if we generate 40 million in sales we can spend 200 million on 4 players on 5 year deals costing us just 40 million a season of amortised fees?
If it's wages I suspect we have 3 in the chamber and can't pull the trigger until some of the dross/unwanted leave.
Is this wishful thinking? Im convinced there are a couple of big ones around the corner.
Nypan has gone to Man City.
Don't people keep saying that it's wages is the problem, not cash to spend. So loans out make sense, assuming the loan club is paying the wages.
We were the best side in the league for the final 3rd of the season. We don't need to do loads.
We were the best side in the league for the final 3rd of the season. We don't need to do loads.
We were the best side in the league for the final 3rd of the season. We don't need to do loads.
And we will have more games. I think minimum we need Bailey, Rashford and Asensio replacement options in forward areas. At the moment we have Ramsey, Watkins, Rogers, Malen. That's neither got enough pace, or variety, and can't be expected to play Thursday Sunday till Christmas. I don't expect players on the same level as the ones gone, and would be more than happy with a couple of them being young players with potential that could give us options and variety.I think we need 2 in attacking areas, a right winger if Bailey goes, and a forward.
I think Asensio made Rogers suffer a bit come the end.
And a right winger if Bailey doesn't go.And we will have more games. I think minimum we need Bailey, Rashford and Asensio replacement options in forward areas. At the moment we have Ramsey, Watkins, Rogers, Malen. That's neither got enough pace, or variety, and can't be expected to play Thursday Sunday till Christmas. I don't expect players on the same level as the ones gone, and would be more than happy with a couple of them being young players with potential that could give us options and variety.I think we need 2 in attacking areas, a right winger if Bailey goes, and a forward.
Fuck it, may as well go all in for Gakpo and Gallagher if it's G-names only.
Fuck it, may as well go all in for Gakpo and Gallagher if it's G-names only.What’s Gary Gardner up to nowadays?
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
No, would be behind Kamara, Tielemans and Onana.
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
No, would be behind Kamara, Tielemans and Onana.
And I'm a "yes" to having Dougie back too.
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
No, would be behind Kamara, Tielemans and Onana.
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
No, would be behind Kamara, Tielemans and Onana.
Yet he played consistently ahead of Tielemans when they were both at the club. His sticky spell form wise that season, coinciding with Kamara's injury, was a hell of a lot shorter than Tielemans who took months to get going. Luiz was our POTY the previous season under Emery, again conveniently forgotten on here.
All three of them, including Kamara, have a level of technical ability on the ball that Onana simply will never get near. Luiz for me is stronger at winning the ball back higher up the pitch (that Brighton game at VP comes to mind) and his goal threat from midfield was badly missing last season.
There's no logical footballing reason why resigning Luiz is a bad idea. I'm all in on getting Grealish back too but Luiz is lower risk again.
If Youri is going to play at 10, then Dougie would be a very very good signing. If Youri is primarily deeper, then Dougie is a luxury.this ☝🏻
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?
No, would be behind Kamara, Tielemans and Onana.
Yet he played consistently ahead of Tielemans when they were both at the club. His sticky spell form wise that season, coinciding with Kamara's injury, was a hell of a lot shorter than Tielemans who took months to get going. Luiz was our POTY the previous season under Emery, again conveniently forgotten on here.
All three of them, including Kamara, have a level of technical ability on the ball that Onana simply will never get near. Luiz for me is stronger at winning the ball back higher up the pitch (that Brighton game at VP comes to mind) and his goal threat from midfield was badly missing last season.
There's no logical footballing reason why resigning Luiz is a bad idea. I'm all in on getting Grealish back too but Luiz is lower risk again.
I’d take both but in the context of financial limitations I don’t think either are what we need most pressingly (pacey wide player, right centre back).
https://x.com/REALUNIONCIRUN/status/1946108285377036344?s=08
Lander Emery off to Real Union.
Not sure if it's a loan or permanent. Probably the latter given the other keepers on our books.
Nothing on prAVda.
https://x.com/REALUNIONCIRUN/status/1946108285377036344?s=08
Lander Emery off to Real Union.
Not sure if it's a loan or permanent. Probably the latter given the other keepers on our books.
Nothing on prAVda.
I think if you did lose Kamara and gain Luiz, you would end up with Onana in the Kamara position. He wouldn't be as good as Kamara in some ways (eg breaking up play) but better than him in others (eg scoring from/defending set pieces and occasionally twatting one in from thirty yards)..
I think if you did lose Kamara and gain Luiz, you would end up with Onana in the Kamara position. He wouldn't be as good as Kamara in some ways (eg breaking up play) but better than him in others (eg scoring from/defending set pieces and occasionally twatting one in from thirty yards).
https://x.com/REALUNIONCIRUN/status/1946108285377036344?s=08
Lander Emery off to Real Union.
Not sure if it's a loan or permanent. Probably the latter given the other keepers on our books.
Nothing on prAVda.
Permanent I believe, had parted ways with Villa
https://x.com/REALUNIONCIRUN/status/1946108285377036344?s=08
Lander Emery off to Real Union.
Not sure if it's a loan or permanent. Probably the latter given the other keepers on our books.
Nothing on prAVda.
Permanent I believe, had parted ways with Villa
I saw a headline yesterday 'Emery Departs Villa' Runny things started cascading down my legs.
https://x.com/REALUNIONCIRUN/status/1946108285377036344?s=08
Lander Emery off to Real Union.
Not sure if it's a loan or permanent. Probably the latter given the other keepers on our books.
Nothing on prAVda.
Permanent I believe, had parted ways with Villa
I think Onana looks like an excellent player, I dont think he was a straufgr replacement for anyone, he is a different player but has an excellent range of attributes and think hell be a big player for us next season
Generally takes them a while to update. If you look closely enough, Ian Ormondroyd is still on there.
Generally takes them a while to update. If you look closely enough, Ian Ormondroyd is still on there.
He's a coach at Bradford still I think. A cult figure if ever there was one.
Generally takes them a while to update. If you look closely enough, Ian Ormondroyd is still on there.
He's a coach at Bradford still I think. A cult figure if ever there was one.
I saw him getting into a mini metro once, it was like watching origami.
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?Nope. Move on, let it go.
I know everyone loves Dougie, but do we actually need Dougie?Nope. Move on, let it go.
Everton will reportedly compete with Aston Villa and Manchester United for Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney.
According to a report by Give Me Sport, Everton, Manchester United, and Aston Villa are interested in Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney. The EFL Championship outfit will demand around £20 million to part ways with 23-year-old midfield powerhouse.
If only we had the space for him as he will one day play for England
Generally takes them a while to update. If you look closely enough, Ian Ormondroyd is still on there.
He's a coach at Bradford still I think. A cult figure if ever there was one.
I saw him getting into a mini metro once, it was like watching origami.
Generally takes them a while to update. If you look closely enough, Ian Ormondroyd is still on there.
He's a coach at Bradford still I think. A cult figure if ever there was one.
I saw him getting into a mini metro once, it was like watching origami.
I saw the wrestler, Big Daddy, getting out of the passenger seat of a mini in about 1980.
If Youri is going to play at 10, then Dougie would be a very very good signing. If Youri is primarily deeper, then Dougie is a luxury.this ☝🏻
We also seem to trade well with Boro. Good club.Everton will reportedly compete with Aston Villa and Manchester United for Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney.
According to a report by Give Me Sport, Everton, Manchester United, and Aston Villa are interested in Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney. The EFL Championship outfit will demand around £20 million to part ways with 23-year-old midfield powerhouse.
If only we had the space for him as he will one day play for England
Had the most forward passes in the Championship last season. Can see him being someone Emery would be interested in.
Generally takes them a while to update. If you look closely enough, Ian Ormondroyd is still on there.There was a girl on my course at uni in the early 90s who was from Bradford. She mentioned one day she had a friend at home whose surname was Ormondroyd. I jokingly asked her if she had a brother called Ian. The answer was 'yes' and after we established his girlfriend was was a police officer she was astounded I knew who he was. She had no idea her friend's brother was a professional footballer.
Everton will reportedly compete with Aston Villa and Manchester United for Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney.
According to a report by Give Me Sport, Everton, Manchester United, and Aston Villa are interested in Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney. The EFL Championship outfit will demand around £20 million to part ways with 23-year-old midfield powerhouse.
If only we had the space for him as he will one day play for England
Everton will reportedly compete with Aston Villa and Manchester United for Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney.
According to a report by Give Me Sport, Everton, Manchester United, and Aston Villa are interested in Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney. The EFL Championship outfit will demand around £20 million to part ways with 23-year-old midfield powerhouse.
If only we had the space for him as he will one day play for England
Crikey. He looks mustard.
Could we tempt them with.a decent bid and sending him back on loan,
Everton will reportedly compete with Aston Villa and Manchester United for Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney.
According to a report by Give Me Sport, Everton, Manchester United, and Aston Villa are interested in Middlesbrough midfielder Hayden Hackney. The EFL Championship outfit will demand around £20 million to part ways with 23-year-old midfield powerhouse.
If only we had the space for him as he will one day play for England
Crikey. He looks mustard.
Could we tempt them with.a decent bid and sending him back on loan,
Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
Ron Saunders' daughter was my Spanish teacher.
BEAT THAT!
Linked through click bait site with Tyler Dibling too. Are we hoovering up the championship’s best!
If all we can do right now is season long loans with a buy deal, I’d prefer Rashford over Garnacho or Jack.there's worse suggestions than Rashford on this thread
Cover for Ollie, play left or right wing.
Top class player and Unai wants him.
I’ll get my coat..
We have a place in Spain in a little village and Brian's ex wife lives there. Very nice but very private lady.Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
If all we can do right now is season long loans with a buy deal, I’d prefer Rashford over Garnacho or Jack.
Cover for Ollie, play left or right wing.
Top class player and Unai wants him.
I’ll get my coat..
I wouldn't bet against youRon Saunders' daughter was my Spanish teacher.Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
BEAT THAT!
Man Yoo want a sale though don’t they?They want a sale at £40M with his wages off their books, but life isn’t that simple.
I can see Garnacho being sold as he’s got a bit less baggage than the other 2, but again you’d be daft to pay what ManU are asking as they will getting desperate the closer to the end of August they get.
I wouldn't bet against youRon Saunders' daughter was my Spanish teacher.Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
BEAT THAT!
Another day and we wonder who the next teenager no one has heard of will be through the door. Exciting times!
Loaned back for a season - see you on 2026, Cisse.Another day and we wonder who the next teenager no one has heard of will be through the door. Exciting times!
And just like that, a transfer appeared…… although I presume pre-contract agreement means some sort of trial ?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/
And just like that, a transfer appeared…… although I presume pre-contract agreement means some sort of trial ?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/
I wouldn't bet against youRon Saunders' daughter was my Spanish teacher.Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
BEAT THAT!
I once saw Ian 'sticks' Ormondroyd among other Villa players take part in a cricket match at Smethwick Cricket Club years ago. Surely I win?
how many will end up on loan
how many will end up on loan
We all get sold in the end.
Another day and we wonder who the next teenager no one has heard of will be through the door. Exciting times!
And just like that, a transfer appeared…… although I presume pre-contract agreement means some sort of trial ?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/
Julian Joachim cadged a fag off me at halftime when Villa Old Stars played Stiperstones FC a few years ago (one for the HMHB aficionados). He did the whole thing in two massive drags and was still the quickest player on the pitch.
Is this some kind of financial rules work around? Or is it standard for young players we don't want to have at the club yet?I interpret the loan-back as a way of giving the kid more gametime experience than he'd get with us next season.
I wouldn't bet against youRon Saunders' daughter was my Spanish teacher.Following on from the above, I worked with Brian Little's niece for a bit. This was early 00s and she was a bit coy about saying who he was, thinking he'd left the manager's job under a cloud. I was suitably gobsmacked and reverential once I knew.
Nice.
I was taught for a year in primary school by Peter McParland's great-niece.
She was appropriately called 'Miss McParland'.
BEAT THAT!
I once saw Ian 'sticks' Ormondroyd among other Villa players take part in a cricket match at Smethwick Cricket Club years ago. Surely I win?
I was there too. Had a chat to Gordon Cowans in the Pavilion…well I stuttered some inarticulate gibberish as I was so starstruck.
how many will end up on loan
Is this some kind of financial rules work around? Or is it standard for young players we don't want to have at the club yet?I interpret the loan-back as a way of giving the kid more gametime experience than he'd get with us next season.
I got awarded a medal for my footballing prowess* at Lichfield City U11s “B” football team by Tony Morley (whose son played at the same club).
* and I indeed showed every bit of prowess that you’d expect from a slow, one-eyed, dyspraxic 9 year old kid. In case it’s not obvious, I’m absolute rubbish - decent amount of stamina but outside that I’m more likely to fall over or get myself sent off that do anything productive
I got awarded a medal for my footballing prowess* at Lichfield City U11s “B” football team by Tony Morley (whose son played at the same club).
* and I indeed showed every bit of prowess that you’d expect from a slow, one-eyed, dyspraxic 9 year old kid. In case it’s not obvious, I’m absolute rubbish - decent amount of stamina but outside that I’m more likely to fall over or get myself sent off that do anything productive
It’s the 1992 Olympic bid all over again.
It’s the 1992 Olympic bid all over again.Wait until he finds out he has to run up that big hill for training
I got awarded a medal for my footballing prowess* at Lichfield City U11s “B” football team by Tony Morley (whose son played at the same club).
* and I indeed showed every bit of prowess that you’d expect from a slow, one-eyed, dyspraxic 9 year old kid. In case it’s not obvious, I’m absolute rubbish - decent amount of stamina but outside that I’m more likely to fall over or get myself sent off that do anything productive
I wonder if he lives local as I seen him in Lichfield last Summer.
It’s the 1992 Olympic bid all over again.Birmingham or Barcelona, tough call.
I've never been a fan of fat-bottomed girls.Good that he did an appropriate song for each city.
I've never been a fan of fat-bottomed girls.Well, at least Rashford has broken free.
Exciting news……..Leeds are prepared to let Bamford go !!
Should we ………. ?
I am joking
Exciting news……..Leeds are prepared to let Bamford go !!
Should we ………. ?
I am joking
Bamford 'not part of my plans' - Leeds boss Farke
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3d174dv0y9o
Anwar has a little chuckle
Rashford's agent has done some job to secure that Barca move for him.
Full wages covered too. Brilliant work from the agent. Good knows what Barca are paying it with.
Even the spurious rumours seem to have died a death now. Going to need every ounce of Emery magic this season.Our results for the last few months of the season made us one of the top three performing clubs in the league. As things stand we've lost no players of significance other than our three loans. I have no doubt we will bring in a defender and a striker before the end of the window. If we still have Emi and Ollie come August 16th the team that starts our season will be very competitive.
No but they have legitimate financial issues - they’re run appallingly badly.Clearly not.
I’m more in the optimism camp, but those loan signings made a massive impact in the run in. I’m not sure we’d have finished as high as 6th without those players.
I don’t think Martinez will be at villa come August, but I’m not too fussed about it (I know others are and understand why). So, we need a GK, a right sided proper defender, a winger and maybe a CF if Watkins is sold too.
99% of rumours are total bullshit either made up by some sad little man in a Hertfordshire bedroom for attention or to generate clicks to a site, so I'm fairly relaxed.
It’s a little disconcerting to keep reading the football gossip on the beeb seeing every club mentioned, but not a single rumour about us signing anyone of significance.
The priority for me is getting Rogers back in the 10 role or off the left, so we need a right sided attacker. Maybe we are trying to offload Bailey before we make a move there. Or there is a link to the Rashford situation. (Ferran Torres?)
Second to that a defensively strong right back is a must, maybe with Garcia going out on loan.
Even the spurious rumours seem to have died a death now. Going to need every ounce of Emery magic this season.Our results for the last few months of the season made us one of the top three performing clubs in the league. As things stand we've lost no players of significance other than our three loans. I have no doubt we will bring in a defender and a striker before the end of the window. If we still have Emi and Ollie come August 16th the team that starts our season will be very competitive.
The priority for me is getting Rogers back in the 10 role or off the left, so we need a right sided attacker. Maybe we are trying to offload Bailey before we make a move there. Or there is a link to the Rashford situation. (Ferran Torres?)
Second to that a defensively strong right back is a must, maybe with Garcia going out on loan.
Isn’t Malen a right sided attacker?
I reckon we'll hit the loan market again once we've cut back as much as possible around salary. I don't see any first-team players leaving, barring Bailey. There's enough fat to trim from the squad.
For me that is the right decision too, provided we can get the same standard of loan player we've seen under Emery so far.
The priority for me is getting Rogers back in the 10 role or off the left, so we need a right sided attacker. Maybe we are trying to offload Bailey before we make a move there. Or there is a link to the Rashford situation. (Ferran Torres?)
Second to that a defensively strong right back is a must, maybe with Garcia going out on loan.
Isn’t Malen a right sided attacker?
I had a feeling, based on absolutely fuck all, that Rashford would be back here again. Shame that.
Even the spurious rumours seem to have died a death now. Going to need every ounce of Emery magic this season.Our results for the last few months of the season made us one of the top three performing clubs in the league. As things stand we've lost no players of significance other than our three loans. I have no doubt we will bring in a defender and a striker before the end of the window. If we still have Emi and Ollie come August 16th the team that starts our season will be very competitive.
Your confidence is admirable, I hope its not misplaced. However, one of the prime reasons our results in the last few months of the season were so good was down largely to those loan players. Football is all about opinions but as things stand at the moment, with the purchases made by our rivals, the acquisition of a few unknown teenagers who are promptly sent back out on loan doesn't fill me with confidence. We shall see.
Think we've got a better chance of getting someone in like Garnacho than people realise.
Garnacho would be signed as the difference maker and hopefully nod to us playing more of a counter attacking style that we had for pretty much all of 2023.
A garnacho loan makes sense but that sort of deal won’t happen until the end of the window when Man U get desperate to shift players out.
99% of rumours are total bullshit either made up by some sad little man in a Hertfordshire bedroom for attention or to generate clicks to a site, so I'm fairly relaxed.
I wonder what its like support Bilbao during the off season? There can’t be much speculation. Scouting involves searching birth certificates to see where players are born. It’s incredible they’ve never been relegated, let alone qualifying for the champions league.
I'd like to have seen Walker-Peters come in on a free; he's gone to WHam.
When are we going to start getting linked to João Felix again?
Even the spurious rumours seem to have died a death now. Going to need every ounce of Emery magic this season.Our results for the last few months of the season made us one of the top three performing clubs in the league. As things stand we've lost no players of significance other than our three loans. I have no doubt we will bring in a defender and a striker before the end of the window. If we still have Emi and Ollie come August 16th the team that starts our season will be very competitive.
Your confidence is admirable, I hope its not misplaced. However, one of the prime reasons our results in the last few months of the season were so good was down largely to those loan players. Football is all about opinions but as things stand at the moment, with the purchases made by our rivals, the acquisition of a few unknown teenagers who are promptly sent back out on loan doesn't fill me with confidence. We shall see.
Yeah the loanees were essential to what we did. We have to plug that gap.
Doesn’t really matter when they made the impact though, particularly in terms of league points. There’s no doubt that Asensio and Rashford was big successes in their own right, but in addition, as you say, the added competition and options really raised our effectiveness. We have to replace them.it was a first for us (in recent years) to have players on the bench that could have an impact each week.
Indeed and it’s critical we can replicate that. I think competition is going to be really tough next season, we cannot afford to stand still.I am worried we will go backwards.
Emery's toughest season now. Not getting 5th was a bit of a disaster in terms of forward progression.Indeed and it’s critical we can replicate that. I think competition is going to be really tough next season, we cannot afford to stand still.I am worried we will go backwards.
Doesn’t really matter when they made the impact though, particularly in terms of league points. There’s no doubt that Asensio and Rashford were big successes in their own right, but in addition, as you say, the added competition and options really raised our effectiveness. We have to replace them.
got to spend upwards of £100mil these days to stand still
got to spend upwards of £100mil these days to stand still
For contrast, Liverpool spent about £30m last summer and those players were sent out on loan or didn’t play. Their DoF (Edwards?) did an article in the Sundays times are few weeks ago and his research/data has found that most signings fail, concluding that you’re better off doing less rather than more transfers.
got to spend upwards of £100mil these days to stand still
For contrast, Liverpool spent about £30m last summer and those players were sent out on loan or didn’t play. Their DoF (Edwards?) did an article in the Sundays times are few weeks ago and his research/data has found that most signings fail, concluding that you’re better off doing less rather than more transfers.
Correct, no such things as a cert that any new signings hit the ground running and meet , never mind exceed , expectation.got to spend upwards of £100mil these days to stand still
For contrast, Liverpool spent about £30m last summer and those players were sent out on loan or didn’t play. Their DoF (Edwards?) did an article in the Sundays times are few weeks ago and his research/data has found that most signings fail, concluding that you’re better off doing less rather than more transfers.
Although surely that depends how many of your transfers you're getting right.
Ferran Torres and Garnacho will sign soon.
Bailey will leave.
Doesn’t really matter when they made the impact though, particularly in terms of league points. There’s no doubt that Asensio and Rashford was big successes in their own right, but in addition, as you say, the added competition and options really raised our effectiveness. We have to replace them.it was a first for us (in recent years) to have players on the bench that could have an impact each week.
Pace is a massive problem for us, I agree, that's one area we really need to improve.
Our tendency to be pedestrian and predictable as a result is one of those factors that, addressed, could have made the difference for us.
we play too slow in posession, pace needed
Diaby was lightning fast, we need another of his type as an outlet .
His stats are pretty mediocre when you factor in the quality of team he was in and how much of the ball he had . Lost count of how many dangerous moves broke down once the ball went to him . Some of his air shots were embarrassing .
Sure, but it depends what squad you're starting with. Liverpool, at the start of last season, had a strong squad and a new manager who was happy with what he's inherited and clearly wished to see how it would work.got to spend upwards of £100mil these days to stand still
For contrast, Liverpool spent about £30m last summer and those players were sent out on loan or didn’t play. Their DoF (Edwards?) did an article in the Sundays times are few weeks ago and his research/data has found that most signings fail, concluding that you’re better off doing less rather than more transfers.
Well, it's both, isn't it? Lack of pace ahead may restrict the passing options for those at the back or in midfield. Diaby's presence offered the option of a quicker pass into space behind defenders, for example.we play too slow in posession, pace needed
It’s not always the fault of lack pace in inside
if your defenders are more interested in passing it back, sideways and at a walking pace it’s in the DNA of how we play
I’m afraid to many players are to scared or are not good enough to play forward passes quickly and take the easy option to often
their stats look great but they’ve done very little progressively
With regards to Bailey, could the decent version turn up again next season or is there an underlying issue that’ll prevent him getting back to his top level?I dont see why not, but equally, it might not. On balance I wouldnt hold my breath, but also wouldnt give up hope.
With regards to Bailey, could the decent version turn up again next season or is there an underlying issue that’ll prevent him getting back to his top level?
Could Malen take some of the pressure off?With regards to Bailey, could the decent version turn up again next season or is there an underlying issue that’ll prevent him getting back to his top level?
Fingers crossed, but I’ve said this before I think he’s got a bit of Moeen Ali about him. Massively talented, but struggles when he’s the number 1 main man. If that pressure is taken off it might unburden him.
Technically a poor player , but had pace.Diaby was lightning fast, we need another of his type as an outlet .
Weird how you weren't saying that when we sold him really.His stats are pretty mediocre when you factor in the quality of team he was in and how much of the ball he had . Lost count of how many dangerous moves broke down once the ball went to him . Some of his air shots were embarrassing .
Actually Tim he had a very good first season when you view his stats. A good return of goals and assists.
Actually Tim he had a very good first season when you view his stats. A good return of goals and assists.We were a different team that year, Bailey was on fire as were a few others , Diaby did well but looked limited as a player but his pace was undeniable. We need pace big time.
Is there any reason you can't pay a higher loan fee and get the other club to keep paying the wages?
With regards to Bailey, could the decent version turn up again next season or is there an underlying issue that’ll prevent him getting back to his top level?
Fingers crossed, but I’ve said this before I think he’s got a bit of Moeen Ali about him. Massively talented, but struggles when he’s the number 1 main man. If that pressure is taken off it might unburden him.
Pace is a massive problem for us, I agree, that's one area we really need to improve.
Our tendency to be pedestrian and predictable as a result is one of those factors that, addressed, could have made the difference for us.
Yep and it’s why - along with his technical ability - Rashford massively changed us. His ability to run at, and beat players, get to the byline opened our game up.
With regards to Bailey, could the decent version turn up again next season or is there an underlying issue that’ll prevent him getting back to his top level?
Football Insider (I know....) linking JJ with a move to Forest.
🚨 NEW: Nottingham Forest have made Aston Villa’s Jacob Ramsey a primary summer target .
@mcgrathmike
Probably depends on how he performs in the first three games. He missed a sitter early on for us v West Ham and it impacted him for weeks afterwards. I think Emery's had enough though.
I seem to remember a game from last season, maybe West Ham, where Bailey was bullied out of it by their youth team full back on his debut. That was the final straw for me.
It's said that Garnacho is better on the right.
It's said that Garnacho is better on the right.
Whichever he plays, we would still be a winger light. Unless Unai can coax 2023 Bailey back out of his shell.
It's said that Garnacho is better on the right.
Whichever he plays, we would still be a winger light. Unless Unai can coax 2023 Bailey back out of his shell.
Ramsey - Rogers - Garnacho?
With Malen available, we'd need back up at left wing / attacking mid (although Buendia could potentially play a part).
I seem to remember a game from last season, maybe West Ham, where Bailey was bullied out of it by their youth team full back on his debut. That was the final straw for me.
Garnacho is 21. If we could get him he'd be a brilliant signing. Him, Rogers and a right winger on loan from somewhere.
Why does Martinez seem to be out of our hands? He's still our player.I've got no idea why he wants to leave, or where he wants to go, so in that sense, there is no point keeping an unhappy player, especially one who is one of, if not our biggest earner.
I've got no idea why he wants to leave, or where he wants to go, so in that sense, there is no point keeping an unhappy player, especially one who is one of, if not our biggest earner.
So, assuming Louie Barry leaves and we keep Ollie for another season; who/how do we replace him?
His contract expires in 2028 and will have 2 years to run next summer, when he'll be 31.Will we sell him then?
His transfer value will fall from now on - unless he has a 25+ league goal season.
Is Rory Wilson - the next cab off the Academy rank going to be good enough?
Will Zeppy Redmond progress sufficiently?
How much will we have in the kitty for a "big name: signing.
Has Monchi got a Morgan Rogers look a like centre forward who nobody else has spotted in his sights.
Ollie's been very good for Villa and vice versa, but I don't expect him to be with us in 18 months time.
No footballer ever says they want to leave these days, cos they know they'll miss out on their "loyalty" bonuses when/if they do leave.I've got no idea why he wants to leave, or where he wants to go, so in that sense, there is no point keeping an unhappy player, especially one who is one of, if not our biggest earner.
There's no firm evidence that he does want to leave though is there?
The price beinv quoted by chelsea according to the media is 100m. No sane ub is paying even half that for jackson
No footballer ever says they want to leave these days, cos they know they'll miss out on their "loyalty" bonuses when/if they do leave.I've got no idea why he wants to leave, or where he wants to go, so in that sense, there is no point keeping an unhappy player, especially one who is one of, if not our biggest earner.
There's no firm evidence that he does want to leave though is there?
I guess it's all about who you believe/trust, personally I think he wants off, but I don't think Watkins or Ramsey do want to leave, we'll find out soon enough, I didn't think Barcelona would go near Rashford, but there you go !!
^^ £50m mentioned a couple of times in today’s clickbait bobbins.
Added this just for debate:
🚨 HIGHEST Transfer Income among English clubs across Last 10 seasons 💰🏴⤵️
1. Chelsea - €1.44 Billion
2. Manchester City - €922m
3. Liverpool - €690m
4. Everton - €636m
5. Aston Villa - €622m
6. Southampton - €610m
7. Leicester City - €602m
8. Tottenham - €576m
9. Manchester United - €545m
10. Wolves - €531m
^^ £50m mentioned a couple of times in today’s clickbait bobbins.
Added this just for debate:
🚨 HIGHEST Transfer Income among English clubs across Last 10 seasons 💰🏴⤵️
1. Chelsea - €1.44 Billion
2. Manchester City - €922m
3. Liverpool - €690m
4. Everton - €636m
5. Aston Villa - €622m
6. Southampton - €610m
7. Leicester City - €602m
8. Tottenham - €576m
9. Manchester United - €545m
10. Wolves - €531m
Forgive my thickness - income being received from player sales - not what we have spent?
I've said on here many times that I really rate Ramsey and think he has a high ceiling, but £50m and I'd have to be starting to think that would tip the balance into being a good sell?
Emery won't play 2 out-and-out wingers; hence why Ramsey, Rogers, Malen and McGinn will have a role to play on the other side to a full-on winger.It's said that Garnacho is better on the right.
Whichever he plays, we would still be a winger light. Unless Unai can coax 2023 Bailey back out of his shell.
Sunderland has already spent over 100 million. Giving it a go...
It highlights what a good job Dean Smith did to keep us up with what was a pretty ragtag squad that first year back.
It highlights what a good job Dean Smith did to keep us up with what was a pretty ragtag squad that first year back.
Yeah. People here suggesting that Leeds could turn their nose up at Calvert-Lewin or Wilson. We spent the second half of that season with Mbwana Samatta as our main striker.
I've said on here many times that I really rate Ramsey and think he has a high ceiling, but £50m and I'd have to be starting to think that would tip the balance into being a good sell?
My exact words to the lads at work was i think your about 20 million out as he's a much better player than Gibbs white a d they laughed at me
I've said on here many times that I really rate Ramsey and think he has a high ceiling, but £50m and I'd have to be starting to think that would tip the balance into being a good sell?
My exact words to the lads at work was i think your about 20 million out as he's a much better player than Gibbs white a d they laughed at me
I've said on here many times that I really rate Ramsey and think he has a high ceiling, but £50m and I'd have to be starting to think that would tip the balance into being a good sell?
My exact words to the lads at work was i think your about 20 million out as he's a much better player than Gibbs white a d they laughed at me
I think that's going too far. Gibbs-White would look quality in our side.
It highlights what a good job Dean Smith did to keep us up with what was a pretty ragtag squad that first year back.
The price beinv quoted by chelsea according to the media is 100m. No sane ub is paying even half that for jackson
Hello Norman Collier.
So, assuming Louie Barry leaves and we keep Ollie for another season; who/how do we replace him?
His contract expires in 2028 and will have 2 years to run next summer, when he'll be 31.Will we sell him then?
His transfer value will fall from now on - unless he has a 25+ league goal season.
Is Rory Wilson - the next cab off the Academy rank going to be good enough?
Will Zeppy Redmond progress sufficiently?
How much will we have in the kitty for a "big name: signing.
Has Monchi got a Morgan Rogers look a like centre forward who nobody else has spotted in his sights.
Ollie's been very good for Villa and vice versa, but I don't expect him to be with us in 18 months time.
I do wonder if the club have one eye on the 'Morgan Rogers look a like' centre forward being the man himself, eventually.
It highlights what a good job Dean Smith did to keep us up with what was a pretty ragtag squad that first year back.
Really? I guess McGinn was injured a lot of that season but we still had likes of Grealish and Mings. Chelsea brought back Tammy didn't they due to a transfer ban? He was a massive loss, poor old Wesley and Samatta were beyond awful. I think Deano was lucky to hold onto his job after Xmas, the covid delay probably saved him from the chop. Personnel aside, we were all over the place tactically and the Drinky signing might have been the final straw for him...
we play too slow in posession, pace needed
The price beinv quoted by chelsea according to the media is 100m. No sane ub is paying even half that for jackson
Hello Norman Collier.
we play too slow in posession, pace needed
Pace will certainly help as will Unai not forcing us to play so defensively, especially first half. Pointlessly passing it about at the back for 45 minutes maybe great for our possession stats but not much more. As if it wasn't frustrating enough to watch, the fact he had the biggest quality squad in our history to choose from, everybody fit and raring to go made little sense to me.
Maybe he over thinks or just needs to have a night off from football, go down the pub, have a couple of pints and a game of darts if they don't have crown green bowls.
It highlights what a good job Dean Smith did to keep us up with what was a pretty ragtag squad that first year back.
Really? I guess McGinn was injured a lot of that season but we still had likes of Grealish and Mings. Chelsea brought back Tammy didn't they due to a transfer ban? He was a massive loss, poor old Wesley and Samatta were beyond awful. I think Deano was lucky to hold onto his job after Xmas, the covid delay probably saved him from the chop. Personnel aside, we were all over the place tactically and the Drinky signing might have been the final straw for him...
It highlights what a good job Dean Smith did to keep us up with what was a pretty ragtag squad that first year back.
Really? I guess McGinn was injured a lot of that season but we still had likes of Grealish and Mings. Chelsea brought back Tammy didn't they due to a transfer ban? He was a massive loss, poor old Wesley and Samatta were beyond awful. I think Deano was lucky to hold onto his job after Xmas, the covid delay probably saved him from the chop. Personnel aside, we were all over the place tactically and the Drinky signing might have been the final straw for him...
Wesley was bad although I think he was finally getting more upto speed and the he was Mee'd. Would definitely have had him scoring more the 1 goal second half of the season anyway. But apart from Grealish and Mings, and a young and not as good Luiz, the rest of the squad was still Championship players at best, and even the two we mentioned were not much better at that point. Remember Mings used to regulalrly have his brain farts and we were really reliant on Grealish to do something.
Well both Ramsay and Watkins have featured heavily in all the marketing images for the kit launch so safe to assume neither going anywhere?
Redmond? Or has he been loaned again and I've missed it?
It might be all nonsense, but I will be beyond gutted if Ramsey is sold. The last year has been a bit of write off due to injury, but he has so much more to give. Its been underwhelming enough this pre-season so far, selling Ramsey would just do my nut in, I think in some ways it would do my head in more than Emi, given Ramseys age, the Brummie factor etc.
I think it's worth a reminder of where the squad is right now because there's definitely a feeling on here that we're in a far worse situation than we really are.
GK(3) - Martinez, Bizot, Gauci
LB(3) - Maatsen, Digne, Moreno? - probably overstocked
RB(2) - Cash, Garcia
CB(3) - Pau, Mings, Konsa, Ozcan - Need cover here
DM(4) - Kamara, Onana, Bogarde, Dendoncker? - probably overstocked
CM(3) - Tielemans, Barkley, McGinn
LW(3) - Ramsey, Iling-Junior?, Buendia? - maybe overstocked here as well
RW(1) - Bailey - need a starter here
10(1) - Rogers - need cover here
ST(3) - Watkins, Malen, Dobbin?
I make that as 26 (although Ozcan might be a stretch) which is a full squad. the 5 with question marks are questionable if they're good enough/wanted but some of those can be replaced as 3rd/4th choice in their position with youth players. 4-5 of those out and 3 in (at CB, RW and 10) would be a good window and I'd be fine with 1-2 being loans so I don't think we need a huge amount of work to be competitive.
The Martinez rumours remain. I'm surprised we haven't been linked with Leicester City goalkeeper Mads Hermansen, the 25-year-old Dane: he looked one of their few decent players last season.
LB(3) - Maatsen, Digne, Moreno
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CB(3) - Pau, Mings, Konsa, Ozcan
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DM(4) - Kamara, Onana, Bogarde
CM(3) - Tielemans, Barkley, McGinn
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LW(3) - Ramsey
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10(1) - Rogers - need cover here
ST(3) - Watkins, Malen, Dobbin?
We will be weaker going into next season than we ended the last without some decent incomings.
With teams around us improving our current squad looks a bit mid table.
It would have been mid table if it wasn't for the loans we made in Jan IMO. We never replaced the Luiz and Diabys goal contribution and Bailey decide not to show up.We will be weaker going into next season than we ended the last without some decent incomings.
With teams around us improving our current squad looks a bit mid table.
If you're standing still then you're going backwards.
I'm disappointed with our transfer activity so far but there are 5 or so weeks still to go. I also don't see any of the teams who finished below us last season bridging the gap. It's whether we make any moves now which help us compete with the 5 sides who finished ahead of us.Spurs will 100% close the gap.
I think top 8 with our current squad would actually be a decent season on paper. We look terribly light of goals for me.
ManUre apparently want to take Emi on loan. Cheeky fuckers.
I think it’s quite clear that we are somewhat hamstrung in terms of incomings this season.
As has been said - if this ends up being the full extent of the squad we’re up against it.We'd be very mid-table
I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.
I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.
Yes, I choose optimism too. If we can’t sell Bailey, we could really do with him having another 23/24-level season.I think Bailey will go and the view of Holy Trinity above is pretty much on the money. I do think we'll see 2 - maybe 3 - new first teamers in once the market has got rid of the current constipation and I also think we'll see some kids come through into 1st-team significance.
I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.
I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.Pretty much sums up my thoughts. I think the most important thing this summer is keeping hold of any players we want to keep hold of. That *i imagine* would involve keeping Ollie, Kamara, and possibly Martinez. With that squad, i think we’ll do alright. Hopefully things will start moving over the next couple of weeks and we’ll be able to shift a few players about. But I don’t think it’s a disaster if we don’t.
I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.
I understand what you're saying but the major flaw in the low spend argument as I see it is that, while we stand still for a further season, our rivals will not so we will continue to lose ground on them. Top six competition will very quickly become top ten competition.
Bailey can't be here another season, Shirley.I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.
I understand what you're saying but the major flaw in the low spend argument as I see it is that, while we stand still for a further season, our rivals will not so we will continue to lose ground on them. Top six competition will very quickly become top ten competition.
However, fully fit Mings, Kamara, JJ, Onana and Bailey alongside settled Maatsen, Garcia and Malen is 8 players who all have the capacity to be a level above what we saw last season.
I'm not saying we don't need a couple of signings but the idea that you need signings to improve is something that frustrates me, especially given how many of our players have improved under Emery already.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/22/back-on-the-grass/
All bar one of the bomb squad are back in training......the question is, will they all go on tour to the USA?
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/22/back-on-the-grass/
All bar one of the bomb squad are back in training......the question is, will they all go on tour to the USA?
Who's missing?
HT, I think you are off the mark,without recruitment we are a lot weaker than last season with some of our better players a further year from their peak.
We should not underestimate the strengthening of our closest rivals let alone the investment Arsenal Citeh Pool are making.
Right now I put Pool Arse Citeh Chelsea Newcastle Spurs even Manu ahead of us which leaves us scraping with Forest Palace Brighton etc.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/22/back-on-the-grass/
All bar one of the bomb squad are back in training......the question is, will they all go on tour to the USA?
Who's missing?
I couldn't see Leander Dendoncker
HT, I think you are off the mark,without recruitment we are a lot weaker than last season with some of our better players a further year from their peak.
We should not underestimate the strengthening of our closest rivals let alone the investment Arsenal Citeh Pool are making.
Right now I put Pool Arse Citeh Chelsea Newcastle Spurs even Manu ahead of us which leaves us scraping with Forest Palace Brighton etc.
Man United? Mbueno and Cunha are good players and are a bit more established than Garnacho and Diallo but they haven’t improved their spine of keeper, midfield and centre forward.
They’ll probably do better this season just through the fact they finished 15th last year but I think even as we are we could finish ahead of them, similarly with Spurs.
Got a feeling Dendoncker is going to be a big player for us next seasonToo right , he’s 6’ 2’’.
“Quote from: VinnieChase84 on May 28, 2025, 09:53:02 AM
If its any comfort psr isnt this summer/june anywhere near as bad as it was last year! Plus we have a big loss year falling out of calculations this coming season and being replaced by our highest revenue one
Issue for us is we WANT to continue to bring in new and refresh squad. Its in doing that which means we have to sell.
IF we had wanted to then outside of selling a few "squad players/loanees" in june - then we could have kept the entire same team/sold no one and bought no one”
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Still the state of play as posted back here.
Our dominoes are waiting to fall depending on exits. Bailey, Emi, Maybe JJ
As said, would could keep squad as it was pretty much. If no big sales happen then I’d expect a few loans to plug some gaps etc
Frustrating but it’s where we are
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Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
I’m less than thrilled with where the squad is at the moment. But I’d be very surprised if Man Utd completely flip where they’ve been. They’ve made a couple of decent signings, but don’t confuse our hoodoo against them with that being indicative of them recovering. That game was a real outlier, they might be a bit better, but they’ve got a load of problems. I’d be very surprised if they finished top 10.
I am hoping you are all right, Amorin will have the luxury of a pre season to bed in his system and they have improved their attack.Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
I’m less than thrilled with where the squad is at the moment. But I’d be very surprised if Man Utd completely flip where they’ve been. They’ve made a couple of decent signings, but don’t confuse our hoodoo against them with that being indicative of them recovering. That game was a real outlier, they might be a bit better, but they’ve got a load of problems. I’d be very surprised if they finished top 10.
Agree. They’ll just be slightly less shite than last season. We always make them look massively better than they actually are.
From the friendlies and training photos Ozcan seems to be part of the first team squad and Mosquera has been given time in both matches so far, might be interesting to see how much more time they get on tour and I wouldn't be surprised if we see Jimoh, Burrowes and Hemming all around the squad through the next few months.I hope this is the scenario. We seem to have a good crop of young players - particularly Borland and Hemmings - and Emery will hopefully develop them quickly into useful squad members.
I'm not saying we should rely on these players but I think there's plenty of talent in the U21 and U18 squads and players at those ages can see pretty big jumps in performance in a really short time (see Rogers for example).
They’re not better than us. They just Manure us every season for some reason. Go back to 1981 I still think they got a draw off us in one of the games.Both. 2 x 3-3 draws.
it’s a hell of a stretch to go from promising youngsters to first team Prem League players.From the friendlies and training photos Ozcan seems to be part of the first team squad and Mosquera has been given time in both matches so far, might be interesting to see how much more time they get on tour and I wouldn't be surprised if we see Jimoh, Burrowes and Hemming all around the squad through the next few months.I hope this is the scenario. We seem to have a good crop of young players - particularly Borland and Hemmings - and Emery will hopefully develop them quickly into useful squad members.
I'm not saying we should rely on these players but I think there's plenty of talent in the U21 and U18 squads and players at those ages can see pretty big jumps in performance in a really short time (see Rogers for example).
I honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.Pretty much sums up my thoughts. I think the most important thing this summer is keeping hold of any players we want to keep hold of. That *i imagine* would involve keeping Ollie, Kamara, and possibly Martinez. With that squad, i think we’ll do alright. Hopefully things will start moving over the next couple of weeks and we’ll be able to shift a few players about. But I don’t think it’s a disaster if we don’t.
it’s a hell of a stretch to go from promising youngsters to first team Prem League players.From the friendlies and training photos Ozcan seems to be part of the first team squad and Mosquera has been given time in both matches so far, might be interesting to see how much more time they get on tour and I wouldn't be surprised if we see Jimoh, Burrowes and Hemming all around the squad through the next few months.I hope this is the scenario. We seem to have a good crop of young players - particularly Borland and Hemmings - and Emery will hopefully develop them quickly into useful squad members.
I'm not saying we should rely on these players but I think there's plenty of talent in the U21 and U18 squads and players at those ages can see pretty big jumps in performance in a really short time (see Rogers for example).
I would love it but…
it’s a hell of a stretch to go from promising youngsters to first team Prem League players.From the friendlies and training photos Ozcan seems to be part of the first team squad and Mosquera has been given time in both matches so far, might be interesting to see how much more time they get on tour and I wouldn't be surprised if we see Jimoh, Burrowes and Hemming all around the squad through the next few months.I hope this is the scenario. We seem to have a good crop of young players - particularly Borland and Hemmings - and Emery will hopefully develop them quickly into useful squad members.
I'm not saying we should rely on these players but I think there's plenty of talent in the U21 and U18 squads and players at those ages can see pretty big jumps in performance in a really short time (see Rogers for example).
I would love it but…
They don't need to be first team players they need to support what we already have. Just managing the minutes of the top players could mean we maintain levels better. The standard of the Europa should mean we can rotate a bit during the league phase for example.
Has that Redmond been involved in the first two games?
It’s still a big ask. I’m happy enough for them to dip in for a few mins here and there, unless they’ve developed exceptionally quickly. But reality is that gives you very little actual cover, we need two/three players in to enhance the first team.
I am hoping you are all right, Amorin will have the luxury of a pre season to bed in his system and they have improved their attack.Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
I’m less than thrilled with where the squad is at the moment. But I’d be very surprised if Man Utd completely flip where they’ve been. They’ve made a couple of decent signings, but don’t confuse our hoodoo against them with that being indicative of them recovering. That game was a real outlier, they might be a bit better, but they’ve got a load of problems. I’d be very surprised if they finished top 10.
Agree. They’ll just be slightly less shite than last season. We always make them look massively better than they actually are.
If they can get the defence working then they will improve significantly.
We are down 2 significant players.
Digne SJM Mings Watkins have probably seen their best days.
I do not think our defence is good enough when we are relying on Maatsen Cash and Torres.
Factor in the inevitable injuries which will come along and we'd be looking lightI honestly think if we started the season with this squad until Jan even without rashford and asencio we would finish pretty much in the exact position. Newcastle will struggle again, forest will be back down the bottom of the league. Us, Spurs, Chelsea and city battling for 4th/5th. We are not as desperate as people are making out, malen will be used this season. Kids will get games in the europa vs lesser opposition and we will get one or two in on loan if we don't manage to sell the deadwood. It's not time to panic until a starter leaves, if we had lost EM1 already and still were passive in the market I would be a lot more worried than I am now. Also if we need 1 more season with lower spend but competing for 7th then so be it if it means the following season we can launch a balls to the wall assault on the top 3.
I admire the optimism but I can’t see it. Rashford and Asensio filled very obvious gaps, which is why we improved so much. We are really light on pace and depth up top. If we don’t at least cover that we’ll have problems, and centre-back is very reliant on Ozcan being able to step up at the moment.
The right side of our team is not strong enough. Last season, an injury to Cash & we were down to Bogarde, Konsa & it was Carlos, Bailey & we're moving players to fill the role. As frustrating as Cash is at times, the alternative aren't there if he gets injured.
We need a centre back who can fill in at right back & a replacement for Bailey. We then need another option for the No 10 role.
Spurs are far more likely to turn it round than Man Utd - Ange was massively underperforming with that squad.
Man utd are the modern version of 80s man utd. Spend big, crap in the league, win a cup, but a mess behind the scenes.
Man utd are the modern version of 80s man utd. Spend big, crap in the league, win a cup, but a mess behind the scenes.
It's the "win a cup" bit that grates.
Cunha and Mbeumo have both said they were Man Utd fans when they grew up. That and the fact that they overpay are the only reasons they've gone there.
Manure are going to be a lot better than they were last season.
If you are honest you realise they they’re bestX1 is ahead than ours right now.
I know it’s uncomfortable but they tore us apart on the last day of the season and have improved since then.
I’m less than thrilled with where the squad is at the moment. But I’d be very surprised if Man Utd completely flip where they’ve been. They’ve made a couple of decent signings, but don’t confuse our hoodoo against them with that being indicative of them recovering. That game was a real outlier, they might be a bit better, but they’ve got a load of problems. I’d be very surprised if they finished top 10.
I would be disapointed if we finished below them. Clearly some reinforcenents would help - but I would still much rather be in the position we are then where Man Utd are.
In players like Matasaan, Garcia, Onana and Malen we have a number of players who could easily kick on. And I just dont see someone like Unai standing for us not being competitive next season - by hook or by crook he wont go in significantly underbaked.
I am struggling a bit to get motivated for this season though. To be honest the ticket costs, the hideous last game of the season / palace no show, combined with the financial restraints clearly making it way harder for us then it should be is making me we worry we have seen the peak
It's less a whisper and more of an echo.
I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.
I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.
I do really hope this is a wind up but if nothing else it's depth and experience. It supposedly will be a late loan potentially after the season starts.
He's normally quite reliable but I have a feeling he's pulling my pud on this one.
Vinnie have you heard anything similar?
I reckon it'll be Garnacho or Grealish on a season long loan.
And hopefully a right sided centre half.
That's our lot.
I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.We get linked to Felix every window - and every window Felix choses something else. There was a time when I thought he might be a good loan - but now I think hell make Zanilio look like pele
I do really hope this is a wind up but if nothing else it's depth and experience. It supposedly will be a late loan potentially after the season starts.
He's normally quite reliable but I have a feeling he's pulling my pud on this one.
Vinnie have you heard anything similar?
I reckon it'll be Garnacho or Grealish on a season long loan.I can see something like this happening
And hopefully a right sided centre half.
That's our lot.
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2025/july/22/back-on-the-grass/We don't have a bomb squad.
All bar one of the bomb squad are back in training......the question is, will they all go on tour to the USA?
I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.
I do really hope this is a wind up but if nothing else it's depth and experience. It supposedly will be a late loan potentially after the season starts.
He's normally quite reliable but I have a feeling he's pulling my pud on this one.
Vinnie have you heard anything similar?
No mate. As far as i last heard he was off to Benfica
I reckon it'll be Garnacho or Grealish on a season long loan.
And hopefully a right sided centre half.
That's our lot.
I think Garnacho will eventually have offers from clubs in the CL. He's a very talented player and it's a bit ridiculous Man United are pushing him out while bringing Mbuemo in for a lot more money.
Grealish seems the more likely for us and him.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c873zvn37jvo
Contrast and compare to his face on the day he signed for us.
It's pretty common knowledge that he wanted Barcelona in January too. We were a last minute move that got him away from Man U. He mentioned us in his press conference today and said he was very grateful for the opportunity to play for us for that period. Let him be happy, I say.
If Chelsea do sign the latest players they are linked with it will mean the clubs who finished in the top 4 last season will have spent in the region of £1 billion (with a B) between them. Whereas we have spent zero (with a Z).It may change, and I hope it does, but it seems like we are in the middle aisle of Aldi transfer wise, thanks to that debacle at Old Trafford..
This seems like the summer where the hopes of us, Newcastle and Forest actually infiltrating that top 6 regularly essentially got swatted with a large electric bat into the long grass.Our hopes got swatted at Old Trafford.
This seems like the summer where the hopes of us, Newcastle and Forest actually infiltrating that top 6 regularly essentially got swatted with a large electric bat into the long grass.Our hopes got swatted at Old Trafford.
It was a huge set back.
This might be a bit of stretch, but not making the CL last season might be a little like not getting promoted under Bruce/Xia. Gutting at the time, but had we got up who knows what kind of disaster we’d be in continuing with that team. In the end we binned Xia, got a new ownership team, ultimately dumped the cabbage and the rest is history. We went up in a much better state.
Not making the CL last season has forced us to get our house in order. The wages ratio was bonkers and we might have just continued more as we were if we made the CL. Hopefully now, as shit as this feels not to do any serious business, we might just be better off long term. Newcastle did fuck all last summer, stabilized, and ended up with a cup and CL. While they didn’t have Europe and we will, we can have a great season. We are more than capable of winning the Europa, and come out the other in a much more secure financial position that will allow us to invest again next summer.
This might be a bit of stretch, but not making the CL last season might be a little like not getting promoted under Bruce/Xia. Gutting at the time, but had we got up who knows what kind of disaster we’d be in continuing with that team. In the end we binned Xia, got a new ownership team, ultimately dumped the cabbage and the rest is history. We went up in a much better state.
Not making the CL last season has forced us to get our house in order. The wages ratio was bonkers and we might have just continued more as we were if we made the CL. Hopefully now, as shit as this feels not to do any serious business, we might just be better off long term. Newcastle did fuck all last summer, stabilized, and ended up with a cup and CL. While they didn’t have Europe and we will, we can have a great season. We are more than capable of winning the Europa, and come out the other in a much more secure financial position that will allow us to invest again next summer.
Apparently we have pulled out of the race for Dougie.I saw that on the Beeb gossip, albeit from the S*n. I was hoping he was waiting for us, which is why he hasn't moved anywhere else yet.
Premier League signings made during summer window so far
Initial fee with add-ons in brackets
Arsenal
Kepa Arrizabalaga - from Chelsea - £5m
Martin Zubimendi - from Real Sociedad - £60m
Christian Norgaard - from Brentford - £10m (£5m)
Noni Madueke - from Chelsea - £48.5m
Aston Villa
Yasin Ozcan - from Kasimpasa - £5.9m (£6.7m)
Zepiqueno Redmond - from Feyenoord - Free
Marco Bizot - from Brest - Undisclosed
Bournemouth
Adrien Truffert - from Rennes - £11.4m (£14.4m)
Djordje Petrovic - from Chelsea - £25m
Brentford
Michael Kayode - from Fiorentina - £14.8m
Caoimhin Kelleher - from Liverpool - £12.5m (£18m)
Romelle Donovan - from Birmingham City - £3m
Antoni Milambo - from Feyenoord - Undisclosed
Jordan Henderson - from Ajax - Free
Brighton
Charalampos Kostoulas - from Olympiakos - £29.8m (£31.5m)
Diego Coppola - from Hellas Verona - £8.5m
Olivier Boscagli - from PSV Eindhoven - Free
Maxim de Cuyper - from Club Brugge - Undisclosed
Burnley
Bashir Humphreys - from Chelsea - £12m (£14.7m)
Marcus Edwards - from Sporting - £8.5m
Jaidon Anthony - from Bournemouth - £7.5m
Zian Flemming - from Millwall - £7m
Max Weiss - from Karlsruher - £4.3m
Quilindschy Hartman - from Feyenoord - Undisclosed
Axel Tuanzebe - from Ipswich - Free
Loum Tchaouna - from Lazio - Undisclosed
Kyle Walker - from Manchester City - £5m
Jacob Bruun Larsen - from Stuttgart - Undisclosed
Chelsea
Liam Delap - from Ipswich - £30m
Estevao Willian - from Palmeiras - £29m (£48.5m)
Dario Essugo - from Sporting - £18.5
Mamadou Sarr - from Strasbourg - £12m
Kendry Paez - from Independiente del Valle - £8.3m (£16.6m)
Joao Pedro - from Brighton - £60m
Jamie Gittens - from Borussia Dortmund - £48.5m
Crystal Palace
Walter Benitez - from PSV Eindhoven - Free
Borna Sosa - from Ajax - Undisclosed
Everton
Charly Alcaraz - from Flamengo - £12.6m (£15.2m)
Thierno Barry - from Villarreal - £27m
Mark Travers - from Bournemouth - Undisclosed
Leeds
Jaka Bijol - from Udinese - £15m
Lukas Nmecha - from Wolfsburg - Free
Sebastiaan Bornauw - from Wolfsburg - £5.1m
Gabriel Gudmundsson - from Lille - £10m
Sean Longstaff - from Newcastle - £12m
Anton Stach - from Hoffenheim - £17m
Liverpool
Florian Wirtz - from Bayer Leverkusen - £100m (£116m)
Jeremie Frimpong - from Bayer Leverkusen - £29.5m
Armin Pecsi - from Puskas Akademia - £1.5m
Milos Kerkez - from Bournemouth - £40m
Hugo Ekitike -from Eintracht Frankfurt £69m (£79m)
Manchester City
Tijjani Reijnders - from AC Milan - £46.3m (£60m)
Rayan Ait-Nouri - from Wolves - £31m (£36.3m)
Rayan Cherki - from Lyon - £30.5m (£35.6m)
Marcus Bettinelli - from Chelsea - Nominal
Sverre Nypan - from Rosenborg - £12.5m
Manchester United
Matheus Cunha - from Wolves - £62.5m
Diego Leon - from Cerro Porteno - Undisclosed
Bryan Mbeumo - from Brentford - £65m (£6m)
Newcastle
Antonio Cordero - from Malaga - Free
Anthony Elanga - from Nottingham Forest - £55m
Nottingham Forest
Igor Jesus - from Botafogo - £10m
Jair Cunha - from Botafago - Undisclosed
Sunderland
Enzo le Fee - from Roma - £19.3m
Habib Diarra - from Strasbourg - £30m
Noah Sadiki - from Royale Union Saint-Gilloise - Reported £15m
Reinildo Mandava - from Atletico Madrid - Free
Chemsdine Talbi - from Club Brugge - Reported £18m (£2.5m)
Simon Adingra - from Brighton - £21m
Tottenham
Kevin Danso - Lens - £20.9m
Mathys Tel - from Bayern Munich - £29.8m (£34.1m)
Kota Takai - from Kawasaki Frontale - £5m
Mohammed Kudus - from West Ham - £55m
West Ham
Jean-Clair Todibo - from Nice - £36.3m
El Hadji Malick Diouf - from Slavia Prague - £19m
Kyle Walker-Peters - from Southampton - Free
Wolves
Fer Lopez - from Celta Vigo - £19.6m (£21.3m)
Jorgen Strand Larsen - from Celta Vigo - £23m
I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.Likely off to Benfica
I do really hope this is a wind up but if nothing else it's depth and experience. It supposedly will be a late loan potentially after the season starts.
He's normally quite reliable but I have a feeling he's pulling my pud on this one.
Vinnie have you heard anything similar?
Aston Villa make offer for Toulouse defender Jaydee Canvot
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6512569/2025/07/24/aston-villa-make-offer-for-toulouse-defender-jaydee-canvot/
By David Ornstein and Jacob Whitehead
July 24, 2025 10:04 am GMT+1
Aston Villa have made an offer to sign highly-rated centre-back Jaydee Canvot from Toulouse.
The Premier League club’s bid has not been accepted by their Ligue 1 counterparts but talks continue, amid interest from a host of suitors.
Canvot, who turns 19 next week, broke into the Toulouse team in the second half of last season, making his first senior start away to Lens in early January. He went on to make 18 appearances.
The France Under-19 international is also able to play as a holding midfielder and featured for his nation at the recent Maurice-Revello tournament, which they won in front of scouts from numerous European sides.
Villa have already recruited a teenager centre-half this summer after the arrival of Yasin Ozcan from Kasimpasa, who signed a pre-contract agreement in February and joined up with Unai Emery’s squad on July 1.
Last week, Villa announced the signing of Modou Keba Cisse, 19, from LASK on a pre-contract agreement. Another teenage centre-back, Cisse will spend the coming season on loan with the Austrian side before linking up with Villa next summer.
Man, we're going to have such a good defence in about 1000 years.
I get that it's tiresome, but it is the model we are going to have to follow to try and catch up the Sky6 and grow revenue. Chelsea have been doing it for years.Aston Villa make offer for Toulouse defender Jaydee Canvot
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6512569/2025/07/24/aston-villa-make-offer-for-toulouse-defender-jaydee-canvot/
By David Ornstein and Jacob Whitehead
July 24, 2025 10:04 am GMT+1
Aston Villa have made an offer to sign highly-rated centre-back Jaydee Canvot from Toulouse.
The Premier League club’s bid has not been accepted by their Ligue 1 counterparts but talks continue, amid interest from a host of suitors.
Canvot, who turns 19 next week, broke into the Toulouse team in the second half of last season, making his first senior start away to Lens in early January. He went on to make 18 appearances.
The France Under-19 international is also able to play as a holding midfielder and featured for his nation at the recent Maurice-Revello tournament, which they won in front of scouts from numerous European sides.
Villa have already recruited a teenager centre-half this summer after the arrival of Yasin Ozcan from Kasimpasa, who signed a pre-contract agreement in February and joined up with Unai Emery’s squad on July 1.
Last week, Villa announced the signing of Modou Keba Cisse, 19, from LASK on a pre-contract agreement. Another teenage centre-back, Cisse will spend the coming season on loan with the Austrian side before linking up with Villa next summer.
Oh goodie. Another teenager probably no one has heard of who we can loan out straight away then sell for the same or less money next year. This is beginning to get tiresome.
City too. The amount of money they have raised over the last 3-4 seasons through selling academy/youth players goes unnoticed. It's a vital income stream for all clubs now.I get that it's tiresome, but it is the model we are going to have to follow to try and catch up the Sky6 and grow revenue. Chelsea have been doing it for years.Aston Villa make offer for Toulouse defender Jaydee Canvot
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6512569/2025/07/24/aston-villa-make-offer-for-toulouse-defender-jaydee-canvot/
By David Ornstein and Jacob Whitehead
July 24, 2025 10:04 am GMT+1
Aston Villa have made an offer to sign highly-rated centre-back Jaydee Canvot from Toulouse.
The Premier League club’s bid has not been accepted by their Ligue 1 counterparts but talks continue, amid interest from a host of suitors.
Canvot, who turns 19 next week, broke into the Toulouse team in the second half of last season, making his first senior start away to Lens in early January. He went on to make 18 appearances.
The France Under-19 international is also able to play as a holding midfielder and featured for his nation at the recent Maurice-Revello tournament, which they won in front of scouts from numerous European sides.
Villa have already recruited a teenager centre-half this summer after the arrival of Yasin Ozcan from Kasimpasa, who signed a pre-contract agreement in February and joined up with Unai Emery’s squad on July 1.
Last week, Villa announced the signing of Modou Keba Cisse, 19, from LASK on a pre-contract agreement. Another teenage centre-back, Cisse will spend the coming season on loan with the Austrian side before linking up with Villa next summer.
Oh goodie. Another teenager probably no one has heard of who we can loan out straight away then sell for the same or less money next year. This is beginning to get tiresome.
I get that it's tiresome, but it is the model we are going to have to follow to try and catch up the Sky6 and grow revenue. Chelsea have been doing it for years.
While part of me would like Dougie back, it makes no sense to invest so much time and money in Onana and hold him back. I'm not convinced by him yet but I think he needs to string 15 or 20 starts together (give or take) without any knocks to see if he's up to the job.
This might be a bit of stretch, but not making the CL last season might be a little like not getting promoted under Bruce/Xia. Gutting at the time, but had we got up who knows what kind of disaster we’d be in continuing with that team. In the end we binned Xia, got a new ownership team, ultimately dumped the cabbage and the rest is history. We went up in a much better state.
Not making the CL last season has forced us to get our house in order. The wages ratio was bonkers and we might have just continued more as we were if we made the CL. Hopefully now, as shit as this feels not to do any serious business, we might just be better off long term. Newcastle did fuck all last summer, stabilized, and ended up with a cup and CL. While they didn’t have Europe and we will, we can have a great season. We are more than capable of winning the Europa, and come out the other in a much more secure financial position that will allow us to invest again next summer.
Put another way, it gives the business side time to catch up with the football side which over-performed and put us ahead of schedule.
I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.Likely off to Benfica
I do really hope this is a wind up but if nothing else it's depth and experience. It supposedly will be a late loan potentially after the season starts.
He's normally quite reliable but I have a feeling he's pulling my pud on this one.
Vinnie have you heard anything similar?
And this is where I hope Chelsea fuck up at some point in thinking they're going to get their money back and some on every player they bring in.I've just heard a whisper we are lining up a loan for Felix.Likely off to Benfica
I do really hope this is a wind up but if nothing else it's depth and experience. It supposedly will be a late loan potentially after the season starts.
He's normally quite reliable but I have a feeling he's pulling my pud on this one.
Vinnie have you heard anything similar?
Deal almost done. Fee of €27m agreed but Chelsea want an additional €13m add-ons which Benfica have told them to do one and rightly so. Chelsea want the full value they paid Atletico 12 months ago who in that time flopped in both England and Italy.
Let's not forget our U18s have just done the League and FA Cup double, so it wouldn't be a bad decision to join our under age set up, in the interests of developing a career.
It is not a bad strategy when you consider we have sold the likes of Chukuwemeka, Philogene, Aaron Ramsey, Kellyman, and Archer for around £90M.
Issak has told Newcastle he wants to move.
Issak has told Newcastle he wants to move.
Issak has told Newcastle he wants to move.And left out of their pre season tour with "slight thigh strain" hmmm I wonder where he'll end up now since 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' just signed a striker..
They are in for him Liverpool, irrelevant of signing Ekitike. Diaz can leave Liverpool so it's likely that Liverpool will now do a deal for him.Issak has told Newcastle he wants to move.
Well Liverpool is no longer a destination, who else would want / could afford him now?
Issak has told Newcastle he wants to move.
No doubt plenty of flak will be heading my way but here goes. Despite all the positive talk, lets be realistic, we are heading towards our natural place of mid table mediocracy as things stand. The constant rumours regarding our top players being targeted continue to swirl around and have not gone away. Lose a couple of them and we are in for a very tough season. If our owners are as angry and frustrated as they say they are, and I've no reason to think they aren't, surely now is the time to test the validity of the blatantly biased rules, under which the Premier League insists its members operate, in the courts. Restriction of trade is supposed to be illegal but that is exactly how the rules work.The clubs voted in the rules, not the Premier League.
No doubt plenty of flak will be heading my way but here goes. Despite all the positive talk, lets be realistic, we are heading towards our natural place of mid table mediocracy as things stand. The constant rumours regarding our top players being targeted continue to swirl around and have not gone away. Lose a couple of them and we are in for a very tough season. If our owners are as angry and frustrated as they say they are, and I've no reason to think they aren't, surely now is the time to test the validity of the blatantly biased rules, under which the Premier League insists its members operate, in the courts. Restriction of trade is supposed to be illegal but that is exactly how the rules work.
No doubt plenty of flak will be heading my way but here goes. Despite all the positive talk, lets be realistic, we are heading towards our natural place of mid table mediocracy as things stand. The constant rumours regarding our top players being targeted continue to swirl around and have not gone away. Lose a couple of them and we are in for a very tough season. If our owners are as angry and frustrated as they say they are, and I've no reason to think they aren't, surely now is the time to test the validity of the blatantly biased rules, under which the Premier League insists its members operate, in the courts. Restriction of trade is supposed to be illegal but that is exactly how the rules work.
I tell you what just call the Samaritans if mid table mediocrity is that upsetting.
I swear the level of miserablism and pant wetting on here for the last couple of weeks is reminiscent of a bunch of bottom lip curling toddlers who've been told they can’t have an ice cream, all because we haven’t signed anyone.
No doubt plenty of flak will be heading my way but here goes. Despite all the positive talk, lets be realistic, we are heading towards our natural place of mid table mediocracy as things stand. The constant rumours regarding our top players being targeted continue to swirl around and have not gone away. Lose a couple of them and we are in for a very tough season. If our owners are as angry and frustrated as they say they are, and I've no reason to think they aren't, surely now is the time to test the validity of the blatantly biased rules, under which the Premier League insists its members operate, in the courts. Restriction of trade is supposed to be illegal but that is exactly how the rules work.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have told Manchester United that Ollie Watkins is NOT for sale.
@JPercyTelegraph
Yes, seems several "world class" strikers available but you'd have to bankrupt yourself to buy one.I think the lack of world class strikers is the issue.
Yes, seems several "world class" strikers available but you'd have to bankrupt yourself to buy one.I think the lack of world class strikers is the issue.
We still need an alternative to Ollie unless that's where we intend to use Malen.
Had a really interesting chat with the Wrexham FC chaplain (a year or 2 before the Hollywood takeover), he was saying a lot of his job was supporting players who were hopping from one 1 year contract to the next, never really settling anywhere. Sounded properly rough on them to be fair, a right lot of upheaval and uncertainty for what was … a good wage, more than I get paid for example, but not really a life changing sum of money.Let's not forget our U18s have just done the League and FA Cup double, so it wouldn't be a bad decision to join our under age set up, in the interests of developing a career.
It is not a bad strategy when you consider we have sold the likes of Chukuwemeka, Philogene, Aaron Ramsey, Kellyman, and Archer for around £90M.
It's terrible for the game generally I would say and player/club development. Who's interests are best served by Louis Barry, Enzo or Dobbin going out on loan again? Kellyman and Chucky are wealthy young men I guess but have achieved zero in the game. It's been going on for years but doesn't make it right.
I read an interview with the Donk recently which was somewhat sad for players on the other end of the scale. Just I guess the depressing reality of going from loan to loan for players with families. Not being wanted by the club that gave them a contract and priced out of moves elsewhere. I guess they could rip up their contracts (like I think Willian did with Arsenal?) but very few of us would do that.
No doubt plenty of flak will be heading my way but here goes. Despite all the positive talk, lets be realistic, we are heading towards our natural place of mid table mediocracy as things stand. The constant rumours regarding our top players being targeted continue to swirl around and have not gone away. Lose a couple of them and we are in for a very tough season. If our owners are as angry and frustrated as they say they are, and I've no reason to think they aren't, surely now is the time to test the validity of the blatantly biased rules, under which the Premier League insists its members operate, in the courts. Restriction of trade is supposed to be illegal but that is exactly how the rules work.
The 20 clubs decide the rules. That’s who “The Premier League” are. This is getting a bit like why Barry didn’t take the penalty.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have told Manchester United that Ollie Watkins is NOT for sale.
@JPercyTelegraph
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa will offer Lucas Digne a contract extension following positive discussions.Good news he had a great season
@TomCollomosse
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa will offer Lucas Digne a contract extension following positive discussions.
@TomCollomosse
That’s going to be a wage cut.Unlikely .
Longer contract with a pay cut.so overall not a pay cut
That’s going to be a wage cut.Unlikely .
Longer contract with a pay cut.so overall not a pay cut
Longer contract with a pay cut.so overall not a pay cut
I don’t understand how your brain works.
Shifting Moreono before we commit Digne to three year deal would be wise. The other way around, and we will have to give Moreno away. Alternatively, If we are really skint, I think Moreno and Maatsen duelling it out for the LB slot would be okay.
So not too fussed how this pans out.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa will offer Lucas Digne a contract extension following positive discussions.
@TomCollomosse
Good man, he deserves it. Maatsen still looks 13, we need a man like Lucas.
Good man, he deserves it. Maatsen still looks 13, we need a man like Lucas.
Absolutely. Proper unsung hero.
Digne neess to take a pay cut though his wagss are very high. We cant give a 32 year old these type of high wages. If he was in his late 20s then moght be worth doingI don't understand how your brain works or spells .
And this at the most wealthy club in the world.
I’m assuming that’s deliberate irony Tim.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa will offer Lucas Digne a contract extension following positive discussions.
@TomCollomosse
And this at the most wealthy club in the world.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa will offer Lucas Digne a contract extension following positive discussions.
@TomCollomosse
Good, he deserves it. Strong competition at LB again next season.
Or alternatively making sure we have players committed to ‘the project’ before assessing how best to spend a constrained budget most effectively.more likely
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa will offer Lucas Digne a contract extension following positive discussions.
@TomCollomosse
Good, he deserves it. Strong competition at LB again next season.
This is all beginning to feel like because FFP has buggered up our chances to sign new players, we’ve decided not to sell and go with what we have ensuring everyone is signed up
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
I think we misunderstood the rules with Malen, he was expecting to play in the Champions League. It's true we can sign players if we don't choose them for our European squad, but we probably aren't going to be attracting megastars on a permanent deal on that basis.
@Romano
🚨 Aston Villa have rejected an approach from Man United for Dibu Martínez on a loan deal.
Man United still deciding internally with experienced GK and young GK as options.
Ha, its hilarious watching Manure and their media lickspittles desperately trying to appear relevant, the games moved on lads.
Tap in merchant has also mentioned the Watkins deal from Man Utd just now too.
Honestly, I’m not sure if it’s just me or not, but I’m incredibly disillusioned with football this close season. It seems like Man Utd want to sign everybody they can do, especially from us. Chelsea seem to want to spend £1 billion on everybody. And yet teams like us, Newcastle and others are basically being fleeced over and having key players snapped up everywhere. Including Man Utd who had one bad season and are remedying it by being linked with every single one of our key players.
2 good seasons, 3 years in Europe including 1 in the CL and a narrow miss on this last year, and we’ve now just seemingly a feeder club.
I might be missing the nuances but this close season feels like the reason I fell out of love with football several years ago (before we were relegated of course!).
We will have a plan for this close season, I know this. But where on earth is balance in any of this?
Tap in merchant has also mentioned the Watkins deal from Man Utd just now too.
Honestly, I’m not sure if it’s just me or not, but I’m incredibly disillusioned with football this close season. It seems like Man Utd want to sign everybody they can do, especially from us. Chelsea seem to want to spend £1 billion on everybody. And yet teams like us, Newcastle and others are basically being fleeced over and having key players snapped up everywhere. Including Man Utd who had one bad season and are remedying it by being linked with every single one of our key players.
2 good seasons, 3 years in Europe including 1 in the CL and a narrow miss on this last year, and we’ve now just seemingly a feeder club.
I might be missing the nuances but this close season feels like the reason I fell out of love with football several years ago (before we were relegated of course!).
We will have a plan for this close season, I know this. But where on earth is balance in any of this?
I agree Chris. Not helped either by the fact football has been relentless this summer and I'd prefer if there was a complete break from it for a month or so.
Ha, its hilarious watching Manure and their media lickspittles desperately trying to appear relevant, the games moved on lads.
Only absolutey useless fuckwits loan their best players to Premier League rivals, why would we do that?
There isn’t a balance or upside, other than the rules prevent Newcastle doing a Man City. That’s it really. And if they just stop nation states buying football clubs that’d sort that one out too. The downside is that there is a massive glass ceiling that clubs like the Villa keep bumping up against.
Ha, its hilarious watching Manure and their media lickspittles desperately trying to appear relevant, the games moved on lads.
Only absolutey useless fuckwits loan their best players to Premier League rivals, why would we do that?
Might just more loan to buy jiggery pokery to get around FFP/PSR/TBC regulations.
Ha, its hilarious watching Manure and their media lickspittles desperately trying to appear relevant, the games moved on lads.
Only absolutey useless fuckwits loan their best players to Premier League rivals, why would we do that?
Might just more loan to buy jiggery pokery to get around FFP/PSR/TBC regulations.
I'd imagine its something like how Arsenal loaned Reya before signing him.
Tap in merchant has also mentioned the Watkins deal from Man Utd just now too.
Honestly, I’m not sure if it’s just me or not, but I’m incredibly disillusioned with football this close season. It seems like Man Utd want to sign everybody they can do, especially from us. Chelsea seem to want to spend £1 billion on everybody. And yet teams like us, Newcastle and others are basically being fleeced over and having key players snapped up everywhere. Including Man Utd who had one bad season and are remedying it by being linked with every single one of our key players.
2 good seasons, 3 years in Europe including 1 in the CL and a narrow miss on this last year, and we’ve now just seemingly a feeder club.
I might be missing the nuances but this close season feels like the reason I fell out of love with football several years ago (before we were relegated of course!).
We will have a plan for this close season, I know this. But where on earth is balance in any of this?
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
What info is that based on? Direct line to Monchi?
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
What info is that based on? Direct line to Monchi?
The UEFA ruling that suggests that we cannot add players to our submitted squad of (as it turned out to be, less than) 25 from last season unless we bring in more than we spend on "A" list players this summer.
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
What info is that based on? Direct line to Monchi?
The UEFA ruling that suggests that we cannot add players to our submitted squad of (as it turned out to be, less than) 25 from last season unless we bring in more than we spend on "A" list players this summer.
That doesn't stop us buying them, only registering them for european games.
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
Is it not a case of "any additions that we choose to make can't be added to our Europa League squad unless we sell, assuming our interpretation of the UEFA ruling is correct"?
Have a look at the top 20 transfers of all time, most of them have been absolute disasters, it's guarantee of anything.
Whatever about our struggles, Newcastle must be fuming that Isak wants out after they qualified for the CL. He's flaky enough I think. Mings demolished him in that game at Villa Park.
Whatever about our struggles, Newcastle must be fuming that Isak wants out after they qualified for the CL. He's flaky enough I think. Mings demolished him in that game at Villa Park.
I mean he’s exceptionally high quality, the odd ropey game doesn’t change that.
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
What info is that based on? Direct line to Monchi?
The UEFA ruling that suggests that we cannot add players to our submitted squad of (as it turned out to be, less than) 25 from last season unless we bring in more than we spend on "A" list players this summer.
I'm not sure how many times I have to say we can't make additions unless we sell...
What info is that based on? Direct line to Monchi?
The UEFA ruling that suggests that we cannot add players to our submitted squad of (as it turned out to be, less than) 25 from last season unless we bring in more than we spend on "A" list players this summer.
What's a A list player? As in what is the criteria?
Man United cannot dump Onana because he is injured and pretty crap. Therefore, they tried to sign Emi on loan purely and simply because they cannot afford to buy him until that situation changes. And of course thought we would just do our old thing of bowing down to them which we didn't. So in summary, fcuk them.
Man United cannot dump Onana because he is injured and pretty crap. Therefore, they tried to sign Emi on loan purely and simply because they cannot afford to buy him until that situation changes. And of course thought we would just do our old thing of bowing down to them which we didn't. So in summary, fcuk them.
If this is legit, it's so insulting it should put the kybosh on any deal between the two clubs for the next 50 years at least.
They did it because they haven’t got a plan and they’re going down the toilet.
I'm more disilliousioned at the state of the modern game than specifically with Villa. But, as soon as it starts going downhill on the pitch then the fans may start turning on the board, as well as they have done - they can't keep smashing fans in the wallet.
I’d be surprised if we sell out the Europa games against the teams in the lower pots, especially at the prices quoted
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are monitoring Werder Bremen attacking midfielder Romano Schmid.
Is he a winger? Lots of pace?
Have Crystal Palace and Fulham bought people then?If we are measuring ourselves against them then its a bit sad .
No here we goes.🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are monitoring Werder Bremen attacking midfielder Romano Schmid.
Here we go? 🟣🔵🇦🇹
Have Crystal Palace and Fulham bought people then?If we are measuring ourselves against them then its a bit sad .
Have Crystal Palace and Fulham bought people then?If we are measuring ourselves against them then its a bit sad .
Who said we are measuring ourselves next to them? You made a statement, I asked a question.
Have Crystal Palace and Fulham bought people then?If we are measuring ourselves against them then its a bit sad .
Who said we are measuring ourselves next to them? You made a statement, I asked a question.
We should definitely stop measuring ourselves against Crystal Palace.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are monitoring Werder Bremen attacking midfielder Romano Schmid.
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🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are monitoring Werder Bremen attacking midfielder Romano Schmid.
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Schmid happens.Stop chatting Schmid
Wiki has him at 5ft 6in tall.Not for me Jeff
Wiki has him at 5ft 6in tall.Not for me Jeff
We all know that at this level size does matter.
Are Man City stockpiling keepers?
Gauci is not replacing EMI just yetSource?
Do we need a RCB who can play out from the back?
According to BBC gossip both Manchester Clubs are interested in Donnarumma, who’s entering the last year of his contract. PSG will look to Lille’s Chavalier as a replacement.
According to BBC gossip both Manchester Clubs are interested in Donnarumma, who’s entering the last year of his contract. PSG will look to Lille’s Chavalier as a replacement.
Could the incoming transfer ban for Man City be any more obvious. And I suppose the future of Martinez is related to this nonsense too.
When interviewed, did Emery say anything about incoming players?
When interviewed, did Emery say anything about incoming players?
He said we are training in our way. Our priority is the Premier League, and we want to use the energy of the fans to channel good performances. Always we must be consistent.
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
When interviewed, did Emery say anything about incoming players?
He said we are training in our way. Our priority is the Premier League, and we want to use the energy of the fans to channel good performances. Always we must be consistent.
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
I remember his brother Maurice well, played left half for Le Crueuset FC.
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
I remember his brother Maurice well, played left half for Le Crueuset FC.
Is that the guy who always got a panning while at the club?
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
I remember his brother Maurice well, played left half for Le Crueuset FC.
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
Why would he do that. He’s not replacing Donarumma…
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
Why would he do that. He’s not replacing Donarumma…
Isn't that exactly what he's doing?
Isn't that exactly what he's doing?
Have I missed something about Donarumma then?
Have Crystal Palace and Fulham bought people then?If we are measuring ourselves against them then its a bit sad .
Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.
Why would he do that. He’s not replacing Donarumma…
Isn't that exactly what he's doing?
Have I missed something about Donarumma then?
He is the last of the big wages at PSG
Direct swap for SJM?Not unless we're giving McGinn away for free.
Does he still dress like a dickhead
Ironically played well in the game at our place last season . Could Emery get a tune out of him ? And Monchi / Vidagny sort his wardrobe outDoes he still dress like a dickhead
Plays like one anyway
I'd welcome a player who has some style of his own as opposed to wearing some variation of the same tracksuit 99% of the time.
You're right, he should put on the Stone Island and fall in line.
What a Role Model.
Why are Aston Villa making so many €5m to €9m signings?
BIRMINGHAM, ENGLAND - APRIL 05: Andres Garcia of Aston Villa runs with the ball during the Premier League match between Aston Villa FC and Nottingham Forest FC at Villa Park on April 05, 2025 in Birmingham, England. (Photo by Shaun Botterill/Getty Images)
By Jacob Tanswell
July 28, 2025 12:24 am EDT
Aston Villa’s player recruitment these days can be separated into two clear categories.
The Premier League club have demonstrated a couple of strands to their strategy on incoming transfers since sporting director Monchi arrived in summer 2023 to head up their football department.
The first is to sign ‘oven-ready’ players who can immediately supplement manager Unai Emery’s first-team squad. They may not always start matches, but are capable of making an immediate impact. The second is to add young recruits who have begun their senior-level careers in lesser-seen leagues in other countries. Or, as Emery calls them, “potential players”. These are not purchased to help the Villa cause in the here and now, but later down the line.
A pattern has emerged over the past 18 months with Monchi, in combination with the data and recruitment staff, working to complete deals for such relatively-unknown targets.
Each is bought for a similar ballpark figure — the €5million to €9m mark (£4.3m-£7.8m/$5.9m-$10.6m at current rates) — and usually gets loaned out, either to a third club or back to the one they were just signed from.
If one proves a success, Villa would, in the long run, turn a sizeable profit. This is pertinent in the profitability and sustainability (PSR) era.
One notable change since Monchi’s appointment is that staff in these departments are now asked to focus on specific regions. Villa are rebuilding some upstairs rooms at their Bodymoor Heath training ground, moving their data insights team into the office next to Monchi’s, making it easier to discuss private matters with him.
This branch of recruitment is leaned upon when debating “potential players” — young, raw talents needing to be refined. This area of the club’s transfer business can be frustrating for supporters, who are not likely to learn of or see the development of such signings immediately — or indeed ever, if they are sold for profit before integrating into the squad.
Kosta Nedeljkovic is a case in point.
Signed in January 2024 for €9m from Crvena Zvezda, the then 18-year-old right-back stayed with the Serbian club on loan until the end of that season.
“He was inexperienced (when Villa bought him),” Marko Mitrovic, the Belgrade side’s head scout tells The Athletic.“But with his body shape and long step in sprints, he looked very good. He had started in our feeder club in the Serbian second division and it wasn’t until September 2023 he started regularly training with our first team. He played 12 Serbian league games before joining Villa.”
Once he reported to Villa for pre-season, Nedeljkovic made nine appearances under Emery over the next few months but did not start a single Premier League game. He was loaned to RB Leipzig at the end of the winter window in a deal that gave the German Bundesliga side an option to buy the now 19-year-old this summer, indicating Villa did not view him as having a longer-term future with them. Leipzig decided against exercising that option but have borrowed him again for the whole of the upcoming season.
If Villa developed reservations about Nedeljkovic, there was greater excitement about Sverre Nypan.
They were frontrunners to land the teenage midfielder from Norway’s Rosenborg. Staff made trips there to monitor Nypan, with detailed work going into convincing him to join their project. Monchi had dinner with the family and built a good relationship with Nypan’s father.
His case was both different from how Villa recruited “potential players” and the same. Nypan’s acquisition, if achieved, would generate plenty of internal excitement at the club. Though the initial plan was for the 18-year-old to form part of Emery’s squad and build minutes, Villa were also amenable to the idea of him going out on loan in the first season.
Nypan, who has moved to Manchester City from Rosenborg, was wanted by Villa (Ole Martin Wold/NTB/AFP via Getty Images)
The longer Nypan refused to commit, the club lost more confidence that he would. Instead, Nypan has since joined Manchester City in a deal worth £12.5million.
Villa moving for Nypan fell outside the bracket of relatively-unknown players arriving at the club. He, similar to their pursuit of Toulouse defender Jaydee Canvot (Villa have made an opening offer for the 18-year-old), was on a larger financial scale than those kinds of deals.
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The proposal for the 18-year-old has not been accepted by the French side but talks are continuing.
Going into this year’s winter transfer window, Villa wanted to sign a right-back, with senior options considered.
When they were all deemed financially unviable, they looked to Spanish second-division side Levante’s then 21-year-old, Andres Garcia, who was available for €7m and regarded as a market opportunity. He was represented by the same agency, Interstar Deporte, as Villa’s Spain international centre-back Pau Torres, who have a good relationship with Monchi and Emery from their La Liga days.
Villa had tracked Garcia’s data from when he played in Levante’s B team, with his characteristics deemed as transferable to the Premier League. They had faith in their convictions, given he had accrued nearly 3,500 minutes of football across three seasons in Spain’s second tier.
His work rate and volume of sprints in a game — even if technical aspects in possession require work — suggested he can be effective in the Premier League, where he made seven appearances and five starts in the second half of last season. Bolstered by coaching and the critical fact that Emery trusts him to play, staff believe he will show more adaptation to the English game in the coming campaign.
Whether Garcia is Villa’s first-team right-back of the future is another question but if he continues to rack up appearances, there is a possibility he can be sold for two to three times the amount he cost.
Also in January, Villa finalised an agreement with Turkish club Kasimpasa for teen centre-back Yasin Ozcan to join them in this window. The 19-year-old has signed a contract until 2030, with the fee being €7m plus a further €1m in possible add-ons.
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Ozcan has featured for Villa this pre-season (Shaun Botterill/Getty Images)
Villa’s scouting system extracted a good amount of data on Ozcan, due to him making his top-flight debut at 16 and playing 81 games for Kasimpasa to that point (he got to 94 before season’s end), combined with caps at various youth levels with Turkey.
From Villa’s perspective, it was clear he was on the path to be a full international before too long, which would accelerate his value. And they were right — he made his debut for Turkey in a friendly against Mexico last month. They noted how Ozcan was adept in different formations and positions (he can operate at full-back), while possessing the gold-dust-like centre-back requirement of being left-footed.
Emery has tried him at left-back and on the left of a back three in pre-season, which means he can add depth to the Villa first team, or to that of another club he joins on loan before the September 1 transfer deadline.
Athletic, left-footed centre-backs are simpler to make money on.
Last summer, Villa signed teenage central defender Yeimar Mosquera from Colombian second-tier side Orsomarso before loaning him to sister club Real Union in the Spanish third division for the first half of the campaign. Mosquera’s low-cost transfer was facilitated partly because of Villa’s relationship with his representatives, DV7; Damian Vidagany, the club’s director of football operations, was formerly the agency’s chief executive. Now 20, Mosquera is involved in Villa’s pre-season as Emery wants to take a closer look before deciding on a longer-term strategy for his development.
This month, Villa confirmed the €5m signing of Modou Keba Cisse from Austrian side LASK, edging out France’s Troyes for his services and so keeping the 19-year-old out of the clutches of the City Football Group (CFG), which owns the Ligue 2 side. He will be loaned back to LASK for the coming season.
Cisse only joined them last July from the Be Sport Academy in Senegal and didn’t make his league debut until February, so the data available on him is a much lower sample size than some of the other young additions mentioned in this article, but Villa’s checks indicate there’s something promising about him.
“I brought him to the second team initially,” Luka Pavlovic, who was LASK’s under-18s coach at the time, tells The Athletic. “He went on trial and I said: ‘He is the next Pogba’ — he was a midfielder then. But the club put him at centre-back, which was a great decision. He is great in training, hard-working and a nice, quiet guy.”
Whether any such “potential players” are a success depends on your definition.
Villa accept that not every such prospect they sign will turn out to be a first-team option for them. But they can, possibly, all be assets down the line — either on the pitch or the spreadsheets.
Am I right in thinking the “potential Players” are unlikely to be named on our A-List and therefore are outside the UEFA restrictions?
A player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 2004 and has, since his 15th birthday, been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years, or a total of three consecutive years with a maximum of one loan period to a club from the same association for a period not longer than one year.
Am I right in thinking the “potential Players” are unlikely to be named on our A-List and therefore are outside the UEFA restrictions?
Depends on the player. If Redmond and Ozcan are part of our first-team squad then they'd be on the A-list. To be on the B list:QuoteA player may be registered on List B if he is born on or after 1 January 2004 and has, since his 15th birthday, been eligible to play for the club concerned for any uninterrupted period of two years, or a total of three consecutive years with a maximum of one loan period to a club from the same association for a period not longer than one year.
So none of these guys will meet that criteria.
Well we desperately need a winger, then. Team needs pace. Embarrassing last season watching nonsense teams like Forest and Palace camped in our half because they knew we didn't have anyone to hurt them on the break.
In principle I like the idea of having that price range and age as targets but it's very reliant on good scouting. When NSWE first took over one thing they said a lot was that they wanted the club to be sustainable and this, along with home-grown players, is a huge part of that.
I don't like that football has become a meat market for these players but until the stupid rules are changed making 'book profit' on transfers is essential and this is how you create a steady stream of easy profit, if we can get sell-on clauses for most of them then even better.
Well we desperately need a winger, then. Team needs pace. Embarrassing last season watching nonsense teams like Forest and Palace camped in our half because they knew we didn't have anyone to hurt them on the break.
Totally get the buying to sell, FIFA Ultimate Team thing, it helps our financials look better, so that's great.
Somewhat concerned about the amount of that that is going on v the lack of first teamers brought in.
Supplemental concern - how much are we making on, for example, Barrenechea, doesn't seem a lot, makes me wonder if it's really worth all the work involved.
In principle I like the idea of having that price range and age as targets but it's very reliant on good scouting. When NSWE first took over one thing they said a lot was that they wanted the club to be sustainable and this, along with home-grown players, is a huge part of that.
I don't like that football has become a meat market for these players but until the stupid rules are changed making 'book profit' on transfers is essential and this is how you create a steady stream of easy profit, if we can get sell-on clauses for most of them then even better.
It's become a business within itself. Is it reasonable to long for the days of buying players who might actually play for you?
Well we desperately need a winger, then. Team needs pace. Embarrassing last season watching nonsense teams like Forest and Palace camped in our half because they knew we didn't have anyone to hurt them on the break.
nonsense teams who whipped us at times but get the point on pace 🤔
I do think without a couple of quality attacking options we will struggle.
This Summer's window has been shit, just a boring accountants wet dream.
I know its a bit of an off the wall thought, but if we need to sell someone, I’d look at moving Konsa on. Big psr profit £60m-£70m, addresses the issue of not being able to start with Unai’s key player (Torres) and allows us to bring in a strong, RCB starter.
This Summer's window has been shit, just a boring accountants wet dream.
You couldn't play for Le Crueuset unless you had a good motor on you.Forget that Chevalier, he's agreed terms with PSG.I remember his brother Maurice well, played left half for Le Crueuset FC.
Seems as if we're having the equivalent of newcastle's summer last year. Hopefully the end result for us is similar.
Linked with Calvert-Lewin apparently.
Fucking hell can this transfer window be any more depressing?
Who’s paying £60-70m for Konsa? I can’t think of any move that align to those sort of figures.
I’ve got no idea, but I still don’t see who’s looking to buy at centre back for that sort of outlay.
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Aston Villa and England midfielder Morgan Rogers, 23, is a top target for Chelsea and the Blues are ready to offer England defender Tosin Adarabioyo, 27, and Senegal striker Nicolas Jackson, 24, as well as a fee to secure a deal. (Football Insider)
I know its a bit of an off the wall thought, but if we need to sell someone, I’d look at moving Konsa on. Big psr profit £60m-£70m, addresses the issue of not being able to start with Unai’s key player (Torres) and allows us to bring in a strong, RCB starter.
It seems a very sensible strategy - I guess with our current psr challenges we could do with one of the players we’ve signed developing as quickly as Roger’s and improving the first team over the next 12 monthsQuoteWhy are Aston Villa making so many €5m to €9m signings?
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Ta, that’s interesting. Makes a lot of sense - at that price range you’re unlikely to make a big loss on any player once they’ve been out on loan for a couple of seasons.
Take Barrenechea, we paid €8m for him, but presumably Valencia and Benfica will have paid most of his wages for that period, and at the end of the season he’ll have depreciated 40% of his fee (so worth around €4.8m on the books), so we’ll bank a €7.2m profit plus 30% of whatever Benfica flog him for, so another €5m say if they sell him on at a modest profit themselves.
There’s barely any risk to us there, and you don’t have to do many of those sales for the whole system to pay for itself - so any really decent players that do come out of that policy (Morgan Rogers for example), there’s no pressure to sell as we’ve got a very steady income stream coming through anyway.
Are we not very exposed to a Watkins injury again, who is the back up?
Ollie won’t kick up a fuss (like he didn’t in Jan with Arsenal). However, he has made it know internally that he would be up for a fresh challenge elsewhere if the right club and bid came in.
Could I see him wanting and joining United? Unfortunately yes.
Can I see them paying what we want? Not so sure
All this stuff is why it boils my piss the window doesn’t close before a balls even kicked. Given how we’ve struggled so far to shift some of the deadwood like Bailey, morneo (although Moreno is now close to gone) it’s just gearing up for a potentially chaotic last couple of weeks of the window
The whole thing feels like the momentum has seriously hit a wall this summer.
All this stuff is why it boils my piss the window doesn’t close before a balls even kicked.
Ollie won’t kick up a fuss (like he didn’t in Jan with Arsenal). However, he has made it know internally that he would be up for a fresh challenge elsewhere if the right club and bid came in.
Could I see him wanting and joining United? Unfortunately yes.
Can I see them paying what we want? Not so sure
All this stuff is why it boils my piss the window doesn’t close before a balls even kicked. Given how we’ve struggled so far to shift some of the deadwood like Bailey, morneo (although Moreno is now close to gone) it’s just gearing up for a potentially chaotic last couple of weeks of the window
Ollie won’t kick up a fuss (like he didn’t in Jan with Arsenal). However, he has made it know internally that he would be up for a fresh challenge elsewhere if the right club and bid came in.
Could I see him wanting and joining United? Unfortunately yes.
Can I see them paying what we want? Not so sure
All this stuff is why it boils my piss the window doesn’t close before a balls even kicked. Given how we’ve struggled so far to shift some of the deadwood like Bailey, morneo (although Moreno is now close to gone) it’s just gearing up for a potentially chaotic last couple of weeks of the window
Bit disappointing with Ollie. Thought with Duran and Rashford gone, he would be settled. If a circus of a Man United are deemed more attractive to likes of Martinez or Watkins rather than staying with us, that's a big problem.
Newcastle are going to be flush with cash from selling Isak soon, wouldn't be surprised if they bid a bit over the odds for Watkins. Bailey after last season is going to be harder to shift than we fear.
🚨 Aston Villa are expected to try to find an understudy to Ollie Watkins in the remaining weeks of the window & have been sounded out over a potential move for free agent Dominic Calvert-Lewin, but Villa are only likely to look seriously at him if they cannot find anything else nearer to the end of the transfer window.
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Ollie won’t kick up a fuss (like he didn’t in Jan with Arsenal). However, he has made it know internally that he would be up for a fresh challenge elsewhere if the right club and bid came in.
Could I see him wanting and joining United? Unfortunately yes.
Can I see them paying what we want? Not so sure
All this stuff is why it boils my piss the window doesn’t close before a balls even kicked. Given how we’ve struggled so far to shift some of the deadwood like Bailey, morneo (although Moreno is now close to gone) it’s just gearing up for a potentially chaotic last couple of weeks of the window
Bit disappointing with Ollie. Thought with Duran and Rashford gone, he would be settled. If a circus of a Man United are deemed more attractive to likes of Martinez or Watkins rather than staying with us, that's a big problem.
Newcastle are going to be flush with cash from selling Isak soon, wouldn't be surprised if they bid a bit over the odds for Watkins. Bailey after last season is going to be harder to shift than we fear.
I get why Watkins might not feel loved by Emery though.
We won't be needing those extra seats if the plan is to replace Ollie with DCL.
It's a pretty sad state of affairs when two of our most important players want out and are prepared to go to a team who aren't even in Europe.
🚨 Aston Villa are expected to try to find an understudy to Ollie Watkins in the remaining weeks of the window & have been sounded out over a potential move for free agent Dominic Calvert-Lewin, but Villa are only likely to look seriously at him if they cannot find anything else nearer to the end of the transfer window.
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Depressing state of affairs for DCL, he would be a poor signing for a newly promoted club.
Bare minimum we need some pace in the squad. Surely we can shift buendia and bailey ti bring someone in.
DCL is going to want a big wage increase as he's a free, he just doesn't strike me as a player we'd want to make one of our highest paid given our restraints.
And a player that rarely misses a game for one that is rarely available.👍🏼
Bare minimum we need some pace in the squad. Surely we can shift buendia and bailey ti bring someone in.
I don’t like the guy at all and hope we stay well clear.
Would be an odd (and thoroughly depressing) scenario if Everton end up with Douglas Luiz in his peak years whilst we have DCL keeping the medical staff busy at our place.
Calvert Lewin is Blues, can we please stop discussing him and make up a different rumour instead. It's stressing me out.Agreed, me too!
Wonder if our strategy is to leave it late , let the big 6 pick off who they want and then take the best of what's left and when clubs / agents become a bit desperate .
Unai doesn't really bring through youth team players though
He's going to Chelsea according to some of the Manc press. They want him and Xavi Simmons because they are light on creativity up front. Palmer, Gittens, Neto, Nkuku, Jackson, Estaveo, Delap, Pedro just are not enough. They need Simmons and Garnacho too.
I don’t like the guy at all and hope we stay well clear.
Would be an odd (and thoroughly depressing) scenario if Everton end up with Douglas Luiz in his peak years whilst we have DCL keeping the medical staff busy at our place.
Don't know about Luiz going there but Everton are after Grealish according to Talksport.
we need pace, but we play too slow to get the best out of pacey players - we play walking football too often, especially when teams park the bus.yeah some of that snail pace play is painful at times. You can hear your fingernails growing.
we need pace, but we play too slow to get the best out of pacey players - we play walking football too often, especially when teams park the bus.yeah some of that snail pace play is painful at times. You can hear your fingernails growing.
we need pace, but we play too slow to get the best out of pacey players - we play walking football too often, especially when teams park the bus.yeah some of that snail pace play is painful at times. You can hear your fingernails growing.
I really feel that the slow build up is a response to our complete exhaustion at the end of the previous season. A way of making it through a full season with a smallish squad. We were much stronger at the end of last season compared to the previous one (last game excepted).
Ortega ( City ) has been told he can leave. If we do part ways with Emi I reckon we'll be heavily linked with him.
Perhaps Utd could write us a list of the players they want to buy and how much they are willing to pay for them, and then we can wrap them up in a big bow and deliver them in person to them, and if we’re lucky they won’t take too long to pay us and might tickle our tummy if we ask nicely.
Perhaps Utd could write us a list of the players they want to buy and how much they are willing to pay for them, and then we can wrap them up in a big bow and deliver them in person to them, and if we’re lucky they won’t take too long to pay us and might tickle our tummy if we ask nicely.
Caught a bit of "Transfer Insiders" on Talksport earlier where they were wondering if Ollie was a big enough name for Yanited. The arrogance from the presenters and the Yanited "expert" being interviewed was nauseating.
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Dont, I cant listen , the lack of self awareness on this subject is beyond belief . I sometimes think do we have a chip on our shoulder , but then you have
this tripe being broadcast
I think Newcastle and Forest fans feel very much the same. It's like there's been an edict this summer to make United great again, alongside promotion of the super league 6 to be heights
All I read on transfers is the BBC rumours page and that’s enough to send me over the edge, when Chelsea find ways round PSR they are geniuses, when we do it, or Forest/Newcastle it’s a sign that we have to accept any bid from the big boys for any player they choose.I think Newcastle and Forest fans feel very much the same. It's like there's been an edict this summer to make United great again, alongside promotion of the super league 6 to be heights
It does feel like the media would love nothing more than Yanited to get Ollie and Emi for peanuts and be back challenging the top 4. Fuck 'em, we've got Unai, they've got Amorim.
Perhaps Utd could write us a list of the players they want to buy and how much they are willing to pay for them, and then we can wrap them up in a big bow and deliver them in person to them, and if we’re lucky they won’t take too long to pay us and might tickle our tummy if we ask nicely.
Would Ivan Toney come back to these shores? Might be an option if he fancies less money. Hard to replace Ollie of the Redscum turn his head.
Would Ivan Toney come back to these shores? Might be an option if he fancies less money. Hard to replace Ollie of the Redscum turn his head.
Osimhen is still available either as a loan or purchase. He was Europe’s best striker a few years back so unsure why Napoli have sidelined him.
That’s another point, ManU sticking players they don’t want in the bomb squad and then expecting top whack for them.
Garnacho might be worth £60M but they don’t want him, so the buying club dictate the price, if he was our one big signing this summer I’d be happy to pay £40M for him, as long as they pay the delivery charge.
Whether we’ve got £40M is a different issue, and I guess we’ll only know for certain at the end of the transfer window.
Agreed, but we must have a figure we know we can spend before the end of August, this UEFA nil net spend and wages to turnover seems to be our biggest concern.That’s another point, ManU sticking players they don’t want in the bomb squad and then expecting top whack for them.
Garnacho might be worth £60M but they don’t want him, so the buying club dictate the price, if he was our one big signing this summer I’d be happy to pay £40M for him, as long as they pay the delivery charge.
Whether we’ve got £40M is a different issue, and I guess we’ll only know for certain at the end of the transfer window.
What we've got isn't important, I'm certain that NSWE would happily throw a couple of hundred million into their investment to bump us back into the champions league places but they're not allowed to do it.
Would Ivan Toney come back to these shores? Might be an option if he fancies less money. Hard to replace Ollie of the Redscum turn his head.
Osimhen is still available either as a loan or purchase. He was Europe’s best striker a few years back so unsure why Napoli have sidelined him.
That’s a good call
Lois Opende doing the rounds now.
Lois Opende doing the rounds now.
Ramsey to WH according to twatter.
Ramsey to WH according to twatter.
Do you mean 'according to Romano' or 'according to uptheirons69'?
Ramsey to WH according to twatter.
Do you mean 'according to Romano' or 'according to uptheirons69'?
You’ve found my household appliance fetish profile then?
BBC Gossip should be audited by BBC Verify and rightly outed as bullshit merchants.
BBC Gossip should be audited by BBC Verify and rightly outed as bullshit merchants.
Same could be said for most of their news coverage as well
If only their news coverage wasn’t so balanced, equal rights for Farage/Racists/Nazis/Yaxley-Lennon but not little old Aston VillaBBC Gossip should be audited by BBC Verify and rightly outed as bullshit merchants.
Same could be said for most of their news coverage as well
How much does a Openda cost? Would we need to sell to buy him?A Jacob Ramsey, probably.
Would Ivan Toney come back to these shores? Might be an option if he fancies less money. Hard to replace Ollie of the Redscum turn his head.
Osimhen is still available either as a loan or purchase. He was Europe’s best striker a few years back so unsure why Napoli have sidelined him.
Is this Ramsey thing true?
Is this Ramsey thing true?Are any rumours true until they are ?
Openda doesn't look a bad shout. Wouldn't mind him and En-Nesyri.
People get so worked up by the BBC gossip page, it's only a collection of gossip from other sources. They just aggregate what's been written.Nobody gets worked up.
What happened to all the gossip of Harvey Elliot signing?We had decided on here he wasn’t quick enough for us to play on the right wing, so the club decided to pass.
Don't know much about him but some on here were genuinely excited about it.
Crap being skint isn't it!
People get so worked up by the BBC gossip page, it's only a collection of gossip from other sources. They just aggregate what's been written.Nobody gets worked up.
Everyone recognises it’s gossip….the clue is in the name.
And as this is a rumours and gossip page….isnt it the best place to chat about media ‘gossip’ ?
People get so worked up by the BBC gossip page, it's only a collection of gossip from other sources. They just aggregate what's been written.Nobody gets worked up.
Everyone recognises it’s gossip….the clue is in the name.
And as this is a rumours and gossip page….isnt it the best place to chat about media ‘gossip’ ?
Some people get worked up by the mere suggestion that people get worked up by it.
What happened to all the gossip of Harvey Elliot signing?i think the haircut police stepped in
Don't know much about him but some on here were genuinely excited about it.
Crap being skint isn't it!
They are generous, indeed. (And utter ******. But it’s prob all bollocks)QuoteAston Villa and England midfielder Morgan Rogers, 23, is a top target for Chelsea and the Blues are ready to offer England defender Tosin Adarabioyo, 27, and Senegal striker Nicolas Jackson, 24, as well as a fee to secure a deal. (Football Insider)
A bit cheeky calling him "England Defender" when he has never played for the senior team.
What happened to all the gossip of Harvey Elliot signing?He read this forum and decided to join MKDons.
Don't know much about him but some on here were genuinely excited about it.
Crap being skint isn't it!
What happened to all the gossip of Harvey Elliot signing?
Don't know much about him but some on here were genuinely excited about it.
Crap being skint isn't it.
Ramsey's value to us is as much about his homegrown status as the fact that he's actually very good; isn't it?!
What happened to all the gossip of Harvey Elliot signing?i think the haircut police stepped in
Don't know much about him but some on here were genuinely excited about it.
Crap being skint isn't it!
Lois Opende doing the rounds now.
Yet another reason why the rules are utterly shite. We've spent years being told how great it is when teams develop their own talent now we have regulations in place that force teams to sell said talent.It's utterly ridiculous.
It’s mad when you think about it. Rules made to make clubs more financially sustainable, that actively encourage them to sell homegrown players, … which you would think would be the most sustainable way of operating.Yet another reason why the rules are utterly shite. We've spent years being told how great it is when teams develop their own talent now we have regulations in place that force teams to sell said talent.It's utterly ridiculous.
Apparently, we have enquired about Samu Aghehowa, Porto, a striker, joint leading scorer in last season's Europa League. He's played a couple of times for Spain, I believe.Based entirely off his wikipedia page stats, I think he'd be an amazing signing and we should definitely buy him.
Ready-made song too.F me, that’s brilliant! We must sign him on that alone!!
Samu, Samu, Samu, Samu, Samu Aghehowa,
He's fast as fuck, he's fast as fucckkk!
If you can believe any of the transfer stuff, it would appear we could start the season with pretty much the same squad minus the loans. That wouldn’t be a disaster, and with a few decent new loans, we could be right there again.
I'm surprised that nothing has been made that Ramsey was the only outfield player not to get on the pitch last night.He's already a decent slug of pre-season minutes ...
Yeah but the “new loans” is doing some heavy lifting there. We just don’t have enough to change games in the current squad.
Yeah but the “new loans” is doing some heavy lifting there. We just don’t have enough to change games in the current squad.
Compared to the squad that finished fourth in 23-24, we've lost Olsen, Diego Carlos, Lenglet, Douglas Luiz, Chambers, Duran, Zaniolo and Diaby. We've gained Iling-Junior, Buendia, Mings, Barkley, Maatsen, Onana, Bizot, Özcan, Malen and Garcia.
There may well be players on that second list that leave (the first two for example), who if they leave, will likely be replaced by better. And if they're not, we'll probably keep them. But there isn't *that* much difference between those two lists.
But I don't think anyone thinks for a second that our current squad is how we're going to start the season, do they?
Yeah but the “new loans” is doing some heavy lifting there. We just don’t have enough to change games in the current squad.
Compared to the squad that finished fourth in 23-24, we've lost Olsen, Diego Carlos, Lenglet, Douglas Luiz, Chambers, Duran, Zaniolo and Diaby. We've gained Iling-Junior, Buendia, Mings, Barkley, Maatsen, Onana, Bizot, Özcan, Malen and Garcia.
There may well be players on that second list that leave (the first two for example), who if they leave, will likely be replaced by better. And if they're not, we'll probably keep them. But there isn't *that* much difference between those two lists.
But I don't think anyone thinks for a second that our current squad is how we're going to start the season, do they?
Waiting for evidence to the contrary for this.
Yeah but the “new loans” is doing some heavy lifting there. We just don’t have enough to change games in the current squad.
Compared to the squad that finished fourth in 23-24, we've lost Olsen, Diego Carlos, Lenglet, Douglas Luiz, Chambers, Duran, Zaniolo and Diaby. We've gained Iling-Junior, Buendia, Mings, Barkley, Maatsen, Onana, Bizot, Özcan, Malen and Garcia.
There may well be players on that second list that leave (the first two for example), who if they leave, will likely be replaced by better. And if they're not, we'll probably keep them. But there isn't *that* much difference between those two lists.
But I don't think anyone thinks for a second that our current squad is how we're going to start the season, do they?
Waiting for evidence to the contrary for this.
Yeah but the “new loans” is doing some heavy lifting there. We just don’t have enough to change games in the current squad.
Compared to the squad that finished fourth in 23-24, we've lost Olsen, Diego Carlos, Lenglet, Douglas Luiz, Chambers, Duran, Zaniolo and Diaby. We've gained Iling-Junior, Buendia, Mings, Barkley, Maatsen, Onana, Bizot, Özcan, Malen and Garcia.
There may well be players on that second list that leave (the first two for example), who if they leave, will likely be replaced by better. And if they're not, we'll probably keep them. But there isn't *that* much difference between those two lists.
But I don't think anyone thinks for a second that our current squad is how we're going to start the season, do they?
Who were the two big name loan players last summer?
Only notable late Aug signing I can think of that we've made under Unai is Lenglet, and that was most likely only done because of the season ender for Mings a couple of weeks earlier.
Only notable late Aug signing I can think of that we've made under Unai is Lenglet, and that was most likely only done because of the season ender for Mings a couple of weeks earlier.
Zaniolo?
Mid August. So I don't class that as late in the window considering the general mayhem of the last few days of it.
Honestly, I'd rather start the season with the squad as it is than with Ramsey at West Ham, Watkins at Newcastle and Martinez at Man Utd. I feel that replacing them this far gone into the summer would be extremely tricky.
I'm not disputing that, just that we don't tend to do it at the end of summer windows under Unai. Which we don't. So far.
Buendia is like a new signing!
Buendia is like a new signing!He’s always like a new signing, till he reverts to his level, 2-3 games later.
The excellent version of Buendia that we saw in the pre season before his terrible injury isn’t what we see now. He’s a pale shadow of that player.
What are you gonna do? We’ll sell him if there’s any way that facilitates new player/s coming in but if not we have to hope he comes good with a bit of fitness. Same as Bailey.
So crack on with what we've got.
What are you gonna do? We’ll sell him if there’s any way that facilitates new player/s coming in but if not we have to hope he comes good with a bit of fitness. Same as Bailey. There doesn’t seem to be any way that Donk gets games without a huge injury crisis.
We shouldn’t be content with cracking on with Buendia IMO.
We shouldn’t be content with cracking on with Buendia IMO.
Well no, but atm doesn’t look like we’ve got much choice, although he’s only going to be a bit part player and just making up the numbers if he doesn’t leave. He’s never been good enough really so, personally, I’m not expecting him to do much.
I like him too...but he's not at the level we need.
I like him
What are you gonna do? We’ll sell him if there’s any way that facilitates new player/s coming in but if not we have to hope he comes good with a bit of fitness. Same as Bailey.
That's basically it. I'd rather we were going into the season with Wirtz or Musiala instead of Buendia too. But Newcastle probably didn't anticipate Jacob Murphy having the greatest season of his life last year. We didn't expect Bailey to do it the season before. But every now and then players step and surprise.
We can't chuck him out and go and spend £80m on a massive upgrade. So crack on with what we've got.
No need to panic just yet. The UEFA ruling was that we have to show a positive balance on costs for players on the A-list. That’s better than a positive balance on fees - that would be a right bastard.
Jadon Sancho is ready to take a pay cut in order to leave Manchester United. (BBC)Good for him, but not here. I've never understood what all the fuss was about with him. I'd only take Garnacho off that bunch of chunts
Garnacho to Chelsea rumours persist. I think he’s one that we are hoping will still be available, even on loan, when we’re in a position to do something or if he’s still in Manchester.
or FernandezJadon Sancho is ready to take a pay cut in order to leave Manchester United. (BBC)Good for him, but not here. I've never understood what all the fuss was about with him. I'd only take Garnacho off that bunch of chunts
No need to panic just yet. The UEFA ruling was that we have to show a positive balance on costs for players on the A-list. That’s better than a positive balance on fees - that would be a right bastard.
Jadon Sancho is ready to take a pay cut in order to leave Manchester United. (BBC)Good for him, but not here. I've never understood what all the fuss was about with him. I'd only take Garnacho off that bunch of chunts
I think I read somewhere that Chelsea paid a bigger fine to UEFA so that the rules we seem to be trying to adhere to wouldn't apply to them for another year?
And when everyone predicted they'd be shit they won the Conference League, finished Top 4 for a Champions League place and won the Club World Cup and have got themselves a good £200m in the process.
Oh to be that basket case.
who play at a speedway trackAnd when everyone predicted they'd be shit they won the Conference League, finished Top 4 for a Champions League place and won the Club World Cup and have got themselves a good £200m in the process.
Oh to be that basket case.
horrible cheating racist club no thanks
Once amortization of incoming players is taken into account, they would have a lot more than £150m in terms of spending power.
Liverpool look like they're going to be strong this season.
I still have this feeling that Grealish will be a Villa player again by the end of August.That's something I've been thinking too. I don't see him and Everton as a fit and if the Napoli speculation doesn't result in anything then I think that could be a possibility...especially if JJ is moved on.
I still have this feeling that Grealish will be a Villa player again by the end of August.That's something I've been thinking too. I don't see him and Everton as a fit and if the Napoli speculation doesn't result in anything then I think that could be a possibility...especially if JJ is moved on.
I still have this feeling that Grealish will be a Villa player again by the end of August.That's something I've been thinking too. I don't see him and Everton as a fit and if the Napoli speculation doesn't result in anything then I think that could be a possibility...especially if JJ is moved on.
Napoli have bough Noa Lang from PSV for £25m, who plays where Grealish would be. So it's unlikely he'd be going there now.
As for Grealish, no thanks, the only reason he gets linked is he used to play for us.
Jadon Sancho is ready to take a pay cut in order to leave Manchester United. (BBC)not sure where Sancho fits in - I'd rather we played Ramsey left side and Malen right side.
I still have this feeling that Grealish will be a Villa player again by the end of August.his best position, left side or through the centre? Ramsey leaving could give us an opening on the left but I don't want us bringing anyone in that moves Rogers from 10
Talk of Yasin Özcan heading to Anderlecht on loan for the season.
Talk of Yasin Özcan heading to Anderlecht on loan for the season.
If that did happen, what would people think about Disasi coming back, that's if he hasn't moved yet?
Really? Would be a very, very similar signing to Rashford or Asensio.
It really wouldn't.
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Really? Would be a very, very similar signing to Rashford or Asensio.
It really wouldn't.
Creative wide attacking player who used to be great and who everyone knows has lost his way and needs a change and might come from a Manchester club to Villa on loan?
Maresca's done a great job with them but they'll likely implode again. They'll probably get rid of Maresca and start the cycle all over again.
Really? Would be a very, very similar signing to Rashford or Asensio.
It really wouldn't.
Creative wide attacking player who used to be great and who everyone knows has lost his way and needs a change and might come from a Manchester club to Villa on loan?
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I can't believe found something even worse than him going to Man Utd but there it is.
Really? Would be a very, very similar signing to Rashford or Asensio.
It really wouldn't.
Creative wide attacking player who used to be great and who everyone knows has lost his way and needs a change and might come from a Manchester club to Villa on loan?
I think you answered the question with your “used to be great” quote Monty. I’m very much in the I don’t want him back camp though.
It does feel somewhat inevitable. Nobody wants to buy him, they won't let us buy anyone. There's something of the late-night call to an ex about it. Ah well, at least both parties know what gets the other going.
Yep that's the only way I can see it happening. The problem then is who we bring in to replace him.. Duran? Osimhen? Jackson?
I can also see Newcastle going for Grealish.
I'd take Osimhen if his head is right but who knows after how things have gone in the last year or so.
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I can't believe found something even worse than him going to Man Utd but there it is.
Yep. Awful.
No need to panic just yet. The UEFA ruling was that we have to show a positive balance on costs for players on the A-list. That’s better than a positive balance on fees - that would be a right bastard.
Sadly this is far worse. It means loaning/selling Barrenechea hasn't made any difference, and nor will Moreno, Donk, Buendia, Dobbin or Iling-Junior. The positive is that Olsen, Rashford, Asensio and Disasi all give us a bit of wiggle room (but Garcia, Malen and Bizot have already eaten into that, along with new contracts) but unless we sell someone who was in the squad for the CL knockouts there's very little we can do to create space. Unless we're missing something the ruling basically forced us into sell-to-buy and if we ignore it and sign a player or 2 and just don't register them for the EUropa there's every chance they'll take that as us breaching the agreement and throw extra punishments at us.
All whilst Chelsea, who were given the same punishment, got a year off so they could spend whatever they like this summer. I can't decide if it's a fucking joke that they've been allowed to take the piss so much or if we're idiots for not doing the same.
I'd take Osimhen if his head is right but who knows after how things have gone in the last year or so.
Unlikely that Galatasaray would sell him just hours after signing him.
I can't see it happening though, and surely it would have by now if it was on as he is available.
Is Asensio a possibility again? Thought he had signed for Fenerbahce but apparently not.
I see Jack posted pics of him on FB in his battered old boots and holding the cup after the play off win.That would be such a backward step for us.
I reckon it's happening, season long loan.
I see Jack posted pics of him on FB in his battered old boots and holding the cup after the play off win.That would be such a backward step for us.
I reckon it's happening, season long loan.
What, on the pitch, has Grealish done in the last 18 months that would make anyone on here want to sign him if those same performances were A.N. Other with no previous connection to us.
What, on the pitch, has Grealish done in the last 18 months that would make anyone on here want to sign him if those same performances were A.N. Other with no previous connection to us.
What, on the pitch, has Grealish done in the last 18 months that would make anyone on here want to sign him if those same performances were A.N. Other with no previous connection to us.
What, on the pitch, has Grealish done in the last 18 months that would make anyone on here want to sign him if those same performances were A.N. Other with no previous connection to us.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
Fuck off.
As long as you ignore things like goals, professionalism, etc.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
Fuck off.
Nor does that. Point stands. Half the people on here were convinced Rashford had been on the piss the day we signed him. To my knowledge neither Guardiola nor anyone that counts has ever questioned Grealish's professionalism.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
Fuck off.
Nor does that. Point stands. Half the people on here were convinced Rashford had been on the piss the day we signed him. To my knowledge neither Guardiola nor anyone that counts has ever questioned Grealish's professionalism.
Apart from the times he’s let it be known to the media that he’s not in the team/squad because of his unprofessionalism. There’s a reason Pep wants rid and it’s not because he isn’t a talented footballer.
Why do we need to bring back a player who is a patch of the one who left?
I would rather invest in Jacob getting to his peak than one approaching 30 and well past his.
But selling Ramsay and bringing in Grealish would add to the wage bill and the average age of the squad. If he could play on the right I could see a case to be made but even then I would struggle to see it as a step forward.Why do we need to bring back a player who is a patch of the one who left?
I would rather invest in Jacob getting to his peak than one approaching 30 and well past his.
I don't mind this idea. But we need to sell. A decent-sized fee and a loan deal for a proven player in a position of need might be palatable.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
One of Grealish's biggest desires when he left was to play Champions League football and at the time that wasn't realistic for us. There must have been a part of him last season that saw the atmosphere at VP for some of the big CL games where he would have wanted to be a part of that. He would probably love to help get us there again and then be involved in those games.Exactly what I was thinking too, help us get back there for those huge memorable nights under the lights and back into the England set up for the WC.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
It's a bit more than occasionally having a drink.
He absolutely has a drink problem. I find it mad that this is even arguable. It should be widely accepted fact.
Going out in your spare time is not "a drink problem". Step away from the Daily Mail.
Youri wasn't nearly 30 and getting pissed in public more often than scoring.
Your weird Daily Mail obsession with a player occasionally having a drink in his spare time doesn't exactly lend credence to your argument.
It's a bit more than occasionally having a drink.
He absolutely has a drink problem. I find it mad that this is even arguable. It should be widely accepted fact.
That’s absolutely slander.
Going out in your spare time is not "a drink problem". Step away from the Daily Mail.
Going out during lockdown (when no travel is allowed and just after recording a video message to fans to be safe and follow rules) and then so drunk the next morning he couldn't even reverse his car down a street without wrecking three others is someone with a drink problem to me. Those are the same antics Gazza used to do.
That incident isn't a "drink problem" it's a "being an immature twat" problem.
He hasn't, though. A drink "habit" doesn't mean once a year or so when he's on holiday.
He hasn't, though. A drink "habit" doesn't mean once a year or so when he's on holiday.Ok
It's unhealthy if it happens regularly, especially if it affects your work, home life, family etc. No evidence of that whatsoever. Just a lot of Helen Lovejoyism going on.Of course there's evidence.It's just not privy to you.
Didn’t Mings go home a few days later still in his Villa kit? Terrible man, out drinking and having fun. He must have been stinking.
Funny how we all call McGrath ‘God’. I’m sure there’s plenty of other Villa heroes who liked a all nighter from time to time.
God this is a boring window.Should have picked the round one.
God this is a boring window.Should have picked the round one.
God this is a boring window.Should have picked the round one.
Would there be a signing behind that one? Bloody hope so.
It's unhealthy if it happens regularly, especially if it affects your work, home life, family etc. No evidence of that whatsoever. Just a lot of Helen Lovejoyism going on.
That incident isn't a "drink problem" it's a "being an immature twat" problem.
Yep. Also how many of us at some point in our twenties have been an absolute twat at some point?
He has a problem with binge drinking and being photographed off his face more than any player I can remember in the modern game. Whether he has a problem or not only he knows. Do I want him back at Villa, with his attraction of headlines and lack of output numbers wise, god no.
That incident isn't a "drink problem" it's a "being an immature twat" problem.
Yep. Also how many of us at some point in our twenties have been an absolute twat at some point?
Probably all of us. And I doubt if any of us were in a profession where the tiniest fraction of a percent in fitness can knock two noughts off the end of your wages.
How often has he actually been seen pissed in public?
And is part of the reason he's papped like that because he has significantly more photographers following him around than most of the other 499, to see him in the first place?
It was a bad game. But let’s be honest if essentially everything hinged on the result of it that’s not a sustainable model. I suspect this summer would have been a challenge either way, it’s just it’s more of a challenge.The financial implications are enormous and Plan A would have looked very different to Plan B.
Well you’re confusing what some fans might want and what the club might want there. Who knows I might be proven wrong, but I’d be very surprised to see Grealish back. Not a personal thing, I just think with limited options he’s not a great choice.I very much doubt that the club are even considering it.
The longer this summer goes on the more Lerner style vibes I feel. My rational head says that's rubbish and we are just fucked by poorly designed rules, but it just feels so flat.
The longer this summer goes on the more Lerner style vibes I feel. My rational head says that's rubbish and we are just fucked by poorly designed rules, but it just feels so flat.
Well you’re confusing what some fans might want and what the club might want there. Who knows I might be proven wrong, but I’d be very surprised to see Grealish back. Not a personal thing, I just think with limited options he’s not a great choice.
The longer this summer goes on the more Lerner style vibes I feel. My rational head says that's rubbish and we are just fucked by poorly designed rules, but it just feels so flat.
He did say things could change in the last few weeks of the window and I think it will, especially if any more leave.
The longer this summer goes on the more Lerner style vibes I feel. My rational head says that's rubbish and we are just fucked by poorly designed rules, but it just feels so flat.
I’m sure they’re already looking at how they can navigate the complexities of Financial Fair Play going forward.
We are very light in some areas eg GK and Nr9. Anything happens to Martinez or Watkins and we are in trouble.
Especially considering we’ve already done the old “sell the women’s team” trick.I think we only sold a stake in the womens team - assuming we could sell more if we're in trouble...
We are very light in some areas eg GK and Nr9. Anything happens to Martinez or Watkins and we are in trouble.
We have the appropriate number of goalkeepers.
Quality over quantity. Gauchi looks useless. Bizot untested at EPL level.We are very light in some areas eg GK and Nr9. Anything happens to Martinez or Watkins and we are in trouble.
We have the appropriate number of goalkeepers.
Especially considering we’ve already done the old “sell the women’s team” trick.I think we only sold a stake in the womens team - assuming we could sell more if we're in trouble...
Quality over quantity. Gauchi looks useless. Bizot untested at EPL level.We are very light in some areas eg GK and Nr9. Anything happens to Martinez or Watkins and we are in trouble.
We have the appropriate number of goalkeepers.
Quality over quantity. Gauchi looks useless. Bizot untested at EPL level.We are very light in some areas eg GK and Nr9. Anything happens to Martinez or Watkins and we are in trouble.
We have the appropriate number of goalkeepers.
I saw some post pop up on Facebook from I think North America Villians or something, I might be wrong. It was a photo of a Villa fan with Ollie who apparently told him he's not going anywhere.
Quality over quantity. Gauchi looks useless. Bizot untested at EPL level.We are very light in some areas eg GK and Nr9. Anything happens to Martinez or Watkins and we are in trouble.
We have the appropriate number of goalkeepers.
What are you talking about? We’ve got Martinez, an experienced goalkeeper as backup and Gauci as third goalkeeper. Do you think Bizot was signed as third goalkeeper?
Smart of us this summer to realise that signing foreigners with no PL ecperience is a poor strategy for the first team, hence not signing any.Like Ozcan, you make a good point, a future prospect but not ready hence punted out on loan .
The longer this summer goes on the more Lerner style vibes I feel. My rational head says that's rubbish and we are just fucked by poorly designed rules, but it just feels so flat.
It could be worse, we could have our best striker being unsettled in a 'will they, won't they' saga by the Red Scouse, and been beaten 4-0 by the Scottish Champions a couple of weeks ago.
The longer this summer goes on the more Lerner style vibes I feel. My rational head says that's rubbish and we are just fucked by poorly designed rules, but it just feels so flat.
It could be worse, we could have our best striker being unsettled in a 'will they, won't they' saga by the Red Scouse, and been beaten 4-0 by the Scottish Champions a couple of weeks ago.
I'm glad we have Newcastle first day of the season while they're in (relative) turmoil. Actually, I wish this game was away. It would be our best chance in years to win at Sid Jameses.
We still have a strong first X1, Martinez suspension aside, for the opener v Newcastle in 2 weeks. Bench seems very weak thoughWhilst I agree with your list, the question is, how does exactly the same team and squad improve on last year without being freshened up.
Bizot, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne, Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn, Ramsey, Rogers, Watkins
Subs from - Gauci, Garcia, Bogarde, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Barkley, Bailey, Buendia, Malen.
Bomb squad - Donk, Moreno, SIJ, Dobbin - all likely gone by then?
It wasn't that long ago I would have loved for us to have a bench like that.
We still have a strong first X1, Martinez suspension aside, for the opener v Newcastle in 2 weeks. Bench seems very weak thoughWhilst I agree with your list, the question is, how does exactly the same team and squad improve on last year without being freshened up.
Bizot, Cash, Konsa, Mings, Digne, Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn, Ramsey, Rogers, Watkins
Subs from - Gauci, Garcia, Bogarde, Torres, Maatsen, Onana, Barkley, Bailey, Buendia, Malen.
Bomb squad - Donk, Moreno, SIJ, Dobbin - all likely gone by then?
Every other team in the league has improved their squad is one way or another ( Fulham being the only exception).
We have stood still.
Admittedly, it’s not the clubs fault, it’s not because there is no money and no desire to improve.
But there were glaring shortcomings in the team and squad last year and we haven’t been allowed to plug them.
It’s going to be a challenge and we will certainly need to ‘raise our levels’ .
There's nothing much wrong with the squad we have. The problem is when the inevitable injuries hit, or the bad run of results starts, what options do we have to inject some new life into things? We were "lucky" last season that we made it to January still in touch and were able to add Rashford and Asensio. It's highly unlikely we go a full season without losing someone to injury for a long period, meaning someone else doesn't get a lot of rest, meaning we hit the same wall we always do.Maybe he wants to see what the kids can do? It was impossible last yea, being in. thr CL But now playing ata lower levelwe can rotate ans give some of the reserve squad some minutes, thus increacing value or giving them an opportuniity to grab a place?
It happens to other clubs too, they just mostly seem to be better able to manage it with their bloated squads.
I think 'very weak' is quite an exaggeration! Definitely room for improvement, but there's quality there.
Oh. Monchi has had a relaxing summer.
I think 'very weak' is quite an exaggeration! Definitely room for improvement, but there's quality there.
Very weak for a 50+ game season. The left side of our defence has competition, to my eye but perhaps not Emery's for LCB, but that aside the drop off in quality seems huge. We are really hoping likes of Garcia, Malen, Onana and Maatsen kick on this season, hoping maybe Bailey can remember he's still a footballer. Hoping the Ramsey of 18 months or more ago reappears. A lot of hope rather than expectation there.
Based on what we currently have in the squad i think we will see the Europa League prioritised over any run at top 5. Its the better chance of ECL qualification with the limited resources we have .
I’m not sure it is - we’ve got 3 centre halves and little to nothing out wide.
you're a bigger one . Nob.Based on what we currently have in the squad i think we will see the Europa League prioritised over any run at top 5. Its the better chance of ECL qualification with the limited resources we have .
You're such a bellend
What kids would these be?Barrenechea, Ozcan, Nedelkovic, Barry…..oh ok I’ll get my coat.
you're a bigger one . Nob.Based on what we currently have in the squad i think we will see the Europa League prioritised over any run at top 5. Its the better chance of ECL qualification with the limited resources we have .
You're such a bellend
Douglas Luiz to Forest by the looks of it.
Still, not particularly bothered about it being him, it's more about rivals strenthening.
I'm sure we'll be just fine, what with our not bothering to sign anyone.
Douglas Luiz to Forest by the looks of it.
Still, not particularly bothered about it being him, it's more about rivals strenthening.
I'm sure we'll be just fine, what with our not bothering to sign anyone.
I'd be fuming if we wasted what little money we have available on central midfield, even if it were Dougie
Left mid, with pace, is the most pressing for me.Right Back, not another season of Matthew Cash please.
Nearly correct…..I'd be fuming if we wasted what little money we have available on central midfield, even if it were Dougie
Is the right answer…
As much as Dougie is a good player we absolutely have 4/5 positions to fill before centre mid
Cash is much less of a problem than only having 3 senior centre-backs and the lack of a wide forward with pace.
Left mid, with pace, is the most pressing for me.RB and CB cover, right wing and back-up striker.
Left mid, with pace, is the most pressing for me.
Nearly correct…..I'd be fuming if we wasted what little money we have available on central midfield, even if it were Dougie
Is the right answer…
As much as Dougie is a good player we absolutely have 4/5 positions to fill before centre mid
Let’s get it right, it’s not what little money we have available, it’s what little money we are ALLOWED to spend by the pathetic rules that now control the game and protect 6 clubs.
How come Redmond has not featured yet ?
How come Redmond has not featured yet ?
He's 19, and only has a handful of first-team appearances to his name. He's far less experienced than Duran was when he joined us at the same age. I don't see him being a realistic first-team option this season. He might get a few cup run-outs I guess, but I'd be amazed if we see him regularly in the league. Delighted (because it will mean he's good enough already), but surprised.
We need a backup/ longterm replacement for Ollie.No. Monchi needs to provide solutions to Emery not basket case problems.
Rasmus Hojland is said to be available for £30m. Hes on £4.4m pa at Old Trafford and is still only 22. He had a shite season last year and hasn't really set the world alight since joining ManU 2 seasons ago.
BUT I would be loathe to write off any player deemed to be a "failure" under Ten Hag or Amorim.
OT has been a dysfunctional madhouse for the last 3 seasons (long may it continue).
From the age of 19, he's scored 36 goals in 129 games for Atalanta and Scum, clearly he's got some talent.
Worth considering? Unai could be just the coach to unlock his talent.
In a better environment and with more support and less of a media circus and he could flourish.
We need a right back, if Matty Cash is our man again this season, I think we are not going to go where we need to be.
We need a backup/ longterm replacement for Ollie.
Rasmus Hojland is said to be available for £30m. Hes on £4.4m pa at Old Trafford and is still only 22. He had a shite season last year and hasn't really set the world alight since joining ManU 2 seasons ago.
BUT I would be loathe to write off any player deemed to be a "failure" under Ten Hag or Amorim.
OT has been a dysfunctional madhouse for the last 3 seasons (long may it continue).
From the age of 19, he's scored 36 goals in 129 games for Atalanta and Scum, clearly he's got some talent.
Worth considering? Unai could be just the coach to unlock his talent.
In a better environment and with more support and less of a media circus and he could flourish.
Can't run? Have you ever actually watched him play? His best attribute is his pace with his top end recorded as about the same as Adama Traore. One of biggest reasons for him struggling has been how inconsistent the rest of the team have been in picking his runs.
His finishing is poor and he doesn't really even try to do much hold-up work so I can go with that criticism but his pace and movement is what caused them to pay what they did.
I'd be very nervous taking him but he's definitely got a lot more in his locker than he's shown in the last couple of years, just needs to find his feet somewhere and be coached.
Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
We need a backup/ longterm replacement for Ollie.
Rasmus Hojland is said to be available for £30m. Hes on £4.4m pa at Old Trafford and is still only 22. He had a shite season last year and hasn't really set the world alight since joining ManU 2 seasons ago.
BUT I would be loathe to write off any player deemed to be a "failure" under Ten Hag or Amorim.
OT has been a dysfunctional madhouse for the last 3 seasons (long may it continue).
From the age of 19, he's scored 36 goals in 129 games for Atalanta and Scum, clearly he's got some talent.
Worth considering? Unai could be just the coach to unlock his talent.
In a better environment and with more support and less of a media circus and he could flourish.
Ignoring his complete lack of anything in the box, likely confidence related, Hojlund hasn't the basics to be a top forward. He can't run, hold up play is awful and he's average with his feet too.
We need a backup/ longterm replacement for Ollie.
Rasmus Hojland is said to be available for £30m. Hes on £4.4m pa at Old Trafford and is still only 22. He had a shite season last year and hasn't really set the world alight since joining ManU 2 seasons ago.
BUT I would be loathe to write off any player deemed to be a "failure" under Ten Hag or Amorim.
OT has been a dysfunctional madhouse for the last 3 seasons (long may it continue).
From the age of 19, he's scored 36 goals in 129 games for Atalanta and Scum, clearly he's got some talent.
Worth considering? Unai could be just the coach to unlock his talent.
In a better environment and with more support and less of a media circus and he could flourish.
Ignoring his complete lack of anything in the box, likely confidence related, Hojlund hasn't the basics to be a top forward. He can't run, hold up play is awful and he's average with his feet too.
Managed 2 in 4 games against us mind
Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
Yep, I was surprised we didn’t go for him when he was at Villarreal.
We need a backup/ longterm replacement for Ollie.
Rasmus Hojland is said to be available for £30m. Hes on £4.4m pa at Old Trafford and is still only 22. He had a shite season last year and hasn't really set the world alight since joining ManU 2 seasons ago.
BUT I would be loathe to write off any player deemed to be a "failure" under Ten Hag or Amorim.
OT has been a dysfunctional madhouse for the last 3 seasons (long may it continue).
From the age of 19, he's scored 36 goals in 129 games for Atalanta and Scum, clearly he's got some talent.
Worth considering? Unai could be just the coach to unlock his talent.
In a better environment and with more support and less of a media circus and he could flourish.
Ignoring his complete lack of anything in the box, likely confidence related, Hojlund hasn't the basics to be a top forward. He can't run, hold up play is awful and he's average with his feet too.
Managed 2 in 4 games against us mind
Can't run? Have you ever actually watched him play? His best attribute is his pace with his top end recorded as about the same as Adama Traore.Have I read this correctly? Hoijland is as fast as Adama Traore? I've never watched him and thought he was particularly pacy. Traore on the other hand is get you out of your seat fast.
Can't run? Have you ever actually watched him play? His best attribute is his pace with his top end recorded as about the same as Adama Traore.Have I read this correctly? Hoijland is as fast as Adama Traore? I've never watched him and thought he was particularly pacy. Traore on the other hand is get you out of your seat fast.
no chance we’re ever going to be interested in Hojlund
One thing I do agree with saddvillan on is you can’t write any player off playing in Utd’s set up over the last few seasons, it has been bereft of any decent coaching
Can't run? Have you ever actually watched him play? His best attribute is his pace with his top end recorded as about the same as Adama Traore.Have I read this correctly? Hoijland is as fast as Adama Traore? I've never watched him and thought he was particularly pacy. Traore on the other hand is get you out of your seat fast.
Why would we need to reach an agreement with Fenerbahçe if he hasn't signed for them?
I'm not sure I'd want Asensio back.
I'm not sure I'd want Asensio back.
Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
Yep, I was surprised we didn’t go for him when he was at Villarreal.
Please don't say he's left-footed. We have enough of the cvnts at the back (speaking as leftie, myself...).
Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
Yep, I was surprised we didn’t go for him when he was at Villarreal.
We did. Thankfully the mighty Jhon Durán did a lot more than that shithead would ever have done for us.
Jackson's a flat track bully: scored several against teams who'd gone down to 10 men; gets lost in the big games. Having said that, as a wide player with Watkins up front ...Well he’s scored 24 in the league over 2 seasons so he’s not a complete dud.Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
Yep, I was surprised we didn’t go for him when he was at Villarreal.
We did. Thankfully the mighty Jhon Durán did a lot more than that shithead would ever have done for us.
Jackson's a flat track bully: scored several against teams who'd gone down to 10 men; gets lost in the big games.
he'll slot in seemlesslyJackson's a flat track bully: scored several against teams who'd gone down to 10 men; gets lost in the big games.Well he’s scored 24 in the league over 2 seasons so he’s not a complete dud.Unai's got a fancy for Jackson at Chelsea - if Watkins goes then I'd expect this signing.
Yep, I was surprised we didn’t go for him when he was at Villarreal.
We did. Thankfully the mighty Jhon Durán did a lot more than that shithead would ever have done for us.
Hector Fort is potentially understudy to Konsa, I guess
Why would we need to reach an agreement with Fenerbahçe if he hasn't signed for them?
I think we should offer to help Barcelona out with their registration issues by taking Ferran Torres on loan for the season
Obv won’t happen but it doesn’t hurt to remain positive :-)
I’d be delighted to have Asensio back, but can’t see it.He'll want ECL exposure.
Aston Villa agree deal for Barcelona star Fort – Catalans offload to register Rashford
https://tribuna.com/en/news/2025-08-03-aston-villa-agree-deal-for-barcelona-star-fort-catalans-offload-to-register-rashford/
Due to financial difficulties, Barcelona face restrictions on registering new players, which means the Cules must sell.
According to Lucia Font, Aston Villa have agreed a deal with Barcelona for defender Hector Fort. The Birmingham side will pay €15 million for the Spaniard. The parties will meet soon to finalize the agreement.
Fort is a Barcelona academy graduate. He made his first-team debut in 2024 and has played 30 matches for Blaugrana, providing three assists. His contract with the club runs until 2026.
Is this another player that will be loaned out and then sold, or will we play him?
I’d be delighted to have Asensio back, but can’t see it.He'll want ECL exposure.
Nickname?
Dunlop
well no . its all about wages to the players and now we aren't ECL we probably can't afford his . Move on , him and Rashford were a good fit last season in the ECL advanced stages , not now .I’d be delighted to have Asensio back, but can’t see it.He'll want ECL exposure.
Why? He’s won it three times. I get that would be desirable, but why would it be an absolute must for him now? Like I say I suspect we wouldn’t be able to make the finances work, and perhaps that’s the Champions League element, but I doubt that’s the be all and end all for him right now.
we cant afford his wages so let it go .
I know I'm off my rocker but if the rumours are true that Hoijland is only £20m, we could do a lot worse as back up to Ollie. Excellent for Atalanta, been totally stripped of confidence there, but the type I could see Unai sorting out.
What happened with the Zeppy Redmond kid, he gone already now too?
Wasn’t involved in the US tour, I don’t think?
It’s 4D moneyball chesswe cant afford his wages so let it go .
Swoop for him on August 31st and we'll have saved 2m not having him for July and August. Result!
I know I'm off my rocker but if the rumours are true that Hoijland is only £20m, we could do a lot worse as back up to Ollie. Excellent for Atalanta, been totally stripped of confidence there, but the type I could see Unai sorting out.Yes I agree.
We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wages
We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wages
Completely. It's a very weird - even Kafka-esque - scenario, where we have the funding to develop our squad but are not permitted to by inappropriate regulations. Using short-term p&l performance and wages as a % of revenue is restrictive and does not enable clubs to invest for the long-term: there should be some measure of investor-commitment and viability in the equation, too.We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wagesIt’s not really a mess, it is the perverse situation of having PSR and SCR set at different levels. It’s almost as though we are being punished for qualifying for European football..
Sounds like the bomb squad era is back - Dendonker, Bailey, Buendia, Moreno etc . All on big money and hard to shift .I don’t think that’s true though.
Sounds like the bomb squad era is back - Dendonker, Bailey, Buendia, Moreno etc . All on big money and hard to shift .
. Since then we lost the wages on squad A of Rashford, Asensio and Disasi - plus Olsen. Thats over £350k a week in wagesThat's a lot more than £350k a week . Probably double that .
Sounds like the bomb squad era is back - Dendonker, Bailey, Buendia, Moreno etc . All on big money and hard to shift .I don’t think that’s true though.
For a start, Bailey will play if we don’t sell him. I’m sure it looks/looked like Moreno is/was off soon. Buendia he had a bit of bad luck with injuries, could happen to any player in any team regardless of what happens. There’s only really Dendoncker who fits a “bomb squad” description, and I’m not sure you can have a “bomb squad” of one.
We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wages
We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wages
I would guess that we probably aren't in a mess, just very close to the limit with next to no wriggle room.
Theres a very plausible scenario with uefa SCR when it comes to who we wish to register. We didnt register Malen for example in champions league squad.
UEFA are measuring us for SCR based on squad A list from Jan vs whatever we wish to register now. Since then we lost the wages on squad A of Rashford, Asensio and Disasi - plus Olsen. Thats over £350k a week in wages - wages have room to breathe
As far as i can understand, there would be nothing stopping us signing a couple on big money right now and maybe not registering then for Europe - if needs be.
We would be miles better off as a team this way, plus confident the ones we have could do fine for us for europa. Meanwhile we would be stronger in league and domestic cups
Not quite sure why this hasnt been explored so far............
Theres a very plausible scenario with uefa SCR when it comes to who we wish to register. We didnt register Malen for example in champions league squad.
UEFA are measuring us for SCR based on squad A list from Jan vs whatever we wish to register now. Since then we lost the wages on squad A of Rashford, Asensio and Disasi - plus Olsen. Thats over £350k a week in wages - wages have room to breathe
As far as i can understand, there would be nothing stopping us signing a couple on big money right now and maybe not registering then for Europe - if needs be.
We would be miles better off as a team this way, plus confident the ones we have could do fine for us for europa. Meanwhile we would be stronger in league and domestic cups
Not quite sure why this hasnt been explored so far............
I would imagining that telling players that we are trying to sign that they will not be part of the European squad would make it harder to sell the club to them.
. Since then we lost the wages on squad A of Rashford, Asensio and Disasi - plus Olsen. Thats over £350k a week in wagesThat's a lot more than £350k a week . Probably double that .
It doesn’t matter now, of course, but I thought I’d read that we were paying all of Rashford’s and all of Asensio‘s salary.
except we were paying the vast majority if not all of Rashford / Asensio wages so thats circa £600k a week . Disasi we paid a big fee to get on loan and again would of been covering most if not all his wages so over £700k plus whatever we were paying Olsen .. Since then we lost the wages on squad A of Rashford, Asensio and Disasi - plus Olsen. Thats over £350k a week in wagesThat's a lot more than £350k a week . Probably double that .
Only if we'd been paying 100% of their wages - which we know we weren't. £350k sounds about right across the four of them, for the portion of their wages we'd been paying (plus Olsen's).
Well, as per The Athletic’s report “Villa would be paying a significant portion of Rashford's £325,000-a-week wages and committing to a buy option.”
The club have agreed to cover all of Asensio’s reported £230,000-a-week wages during his time on loan from PSG, increasing their salary expenditure by £5million.
Villa will also pay Disasi’s entire salary until the end of the season, with the centre-back understood to be on around £80,000 per week at Chelsea.
We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wages
It’s not really a mess, it is the perverse situation of having PSR and SCR set at different levels. It’s almost as though we are being punished for qualifying for European football..
From The Athletic
We know what we want, we know who we want and our owners are prepared to put up the money, but because of PSR/SCR rules, we're in limbo until we shift deadwood.
ASTON VILLA’S' SUMMER OF UNCERTAINTY IS NOT IDEAL PREPARATION FOR A NEW PREMIER LEAGUE SEASON
Aston Villa’s transfer team are used to thinking on their feet.
A product of a volatile market, influenced by the seemingly perennial concern of having to comply with profit and sustainability rules (PSR), staff members often stress the need to be proactive in seeking targets for a time when Villa, invariably, become reactive to replace players who have just left.
Best-laid plans forged in May can change over the summer months. Initially, Villa wanted a right-footed centre-back, right-back, winger and forward. Money needs to be raised from outgoings to plug those gaps, especially if they are breaching UEFA’s squad cost rules (SCR), which are even stricter than the Premier League’s PSR.
The only genuine pursuit has been for Toulouse centre-back Jaydee Canvot, with the first formal approach rejected.
Players and staff accept that Unai Emery’s squad needs a refresh, but even if selling the women’s team has placated the threat of PSR, Villa need to cut their wage bill below 70 per cent of overall revenue to comply with UEFA’s rules. There has been a degree of surprise among staff at the lack of activity, but no marquee departures are imminent.
Ideally, Villa would have strengthened at right-back over the previous three windows, providing competition for Matty Cash and sharing his workload. High salaries at left-back, especially with Ian Maatsen and Lucas Digne competing for the spot last year, meant they simply did not have the monetary comfort.
Villa have only made one senior signing — backup goalkeeper Marco Bizot. Rumours arise daily about potential incomings, most of which are swiftly knocked down and dismissed.
For example, if Villa had successfully offloaded Leon Bailey, they would have likely signed another winger by now. They liked Real Betis’ Jesus Rodriguez but were never truly in the race. In the end, Rodriguez joined Como.
Selling other players who have been isolated from Villa’s travelling party to the United States, such as Alex Moreno and Leander Dendoncker, would have saved Villa more than £100,000 ($133,000) per week in salary costs.
If any of these dominoes had fallen, Villa would have reacted sooner to bring in replacements. It is what makes pre-empting their transfer strategy at the window’s outset so complex — they have a nimble approach, shifting between targets and always weighing up the financial pros and cons. Employees even acknowledge this school of thought, with Villa changing strategy, contingent on what targets are viable and whether Emery may decide that he already has a player who can cover the desired position and, therefore, need to address another area instead.
Acting on their feet might seem necessary in the era of PSR, but it is not ideal preparation for the new season. The approach represents the antithesis of the stability Emery demands, even if it has been successful for Villa in previous windows.
Pre-season has been set against the backdrop of departures, though no high-profile player has exited. It has become a ‘whodunit’ storyline — who will be the player(s) to leave?
Arguably, the bedrocks of Emery’s era are Emiliano Martinez and Ollie Watkins. Speculation about both perpetually swirls. Villa are adamant Watkins will not be sold, despite Manchester United sounding out the striker.
United also cheekily asked to take Martinez on a season-long loan, which was met, unsurprisingly, by instantaneous push back.
Martinez thought at the end of last season (hence the tears) that his time at Villa was up. His representatives had been in contact with United since the start of the year, and Martinez reckoned that they or another famously large team in Europe would come calling and strike a deal. However, no club has made a proposal that comes close to Villa’s asking price.
Martinez and Watkins are large presences on and off the field. Doubt over their futures cannot be conducive to long-term planning, though Villa are trying to negate this by insisting Watkins will stay and lead the line this term. The forward expressed frustration over a lack of playing time in the second half of last season, and Villa were not totally opposed to his exit in January, but the 29-year-old is extremely well-liked among staff, who are warm in their praise for his professionalism, attitude and respect he shows around the training ground.
Villa have outlined their desire to renew Morgan Rogers’ contract, despite the 23-year-old only signing a new five-year contract in November, bringing him in line with his status as a key player for Emery. All parties are aware that Rogers has multiple Premier League admirers.
Boubacar Kamara’s contract extension did provide some certainty as he penned a deal until 2030 to dismiss fears he would leave this window. A new contract may be in the offing for Jacob Ramsey but clubs, including Nottingham Forest, are monitoring his situation, sensing that he is available for the right price.
For now, though, we wait. Supporters wait, players wait, Emery waits. Villa’s squad requires trimming, cutting peripheral figures and deciding the futures of some senior players.
In theory, being stifled in the transfer market while waiting for probable exits is not conducive to Emery’s abiding thirst for progress. Some players featuring in pre-season have little to no chance of making a competitive appearance and there are others who have played, but are unsure whether they will be here next month.
Villa are a victim of circumstance as they attempt to navigate a delicate PSR and SCR situation. The Emery era has tended to be adept in managing turbulence — how his side start the season will be another test of such resolve.
Well, as per The Athletic’s report “Villa would be paying a significant portion of Rashford's £325,000-a-week wages and committing to a buy option.”
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Jonathan Wilson will write a think piece about Guardiola to explain.
We have hit a road block basically. If we cant even get a few loans in by the end of the window then you really have to wonder what kind of a mess we are in with wages
I have thought this for a while.
The likes of Us, Newcastle and Forest taking the places of the media darlings Red filth, Spurs in top spots - no we cannot have that.
Lets destabilise them by negative reporting, linking all their key players with wanting to move (just happened to be to the scum 6 teams doing the bidding for the likes Watkins, Emi, Rogers Gibbs-White, Isak etc)
The whole thing is a rigged deck and if we circumnavigate PSR. SCR, FFP then i am sure there will be another acronym we will be falling foul of.
Football and the finances just suck at the moment and that is made even more galling when the same scum 6 seemingly can just spend and spend due to years of untouched fiddling, bullshit and ridiculous spending power.
It’s not really a mess, it is the perverse situation of having PSR and SCR set at different levels. It’s almost as though we are being punished for qualifying for European football..
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Jonathan Wilson will write a think piece about Guardiola to explain.
Barney Ronay will say that Emery exists in his own square of light.
If Chelsea can get £25m for Dewsbury hall who has never done a thing in the Prem, we should be holding out for £40 for Ramsey.
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Jonathan Wilson will write a think piece about Guardiola to explain.
Barney Ronay will say that Emery exists in his own square of light.
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
If Chelsea can get £25m for Dewsbury hall who has never done a thing in the Prem, we should be holding out for £40 for Ramsey.40 quid??
We signed him right at the start of the window, and Rashford and Asensio came at the end of the window as loans. It’s quite possible we signed him thinking he’d play in Europe, and only found the other two would be available and interested when it got to the end of the window and we became the best option they had.Theres a very plausible scenario with uefa SCR when it comes to who we wish to register. We didnt register Malen for example in champions league squad.
UEFA are measuring us for SCR based on squad A list from Jan vs whatever we wish to register now. Since then we lost the wages on squad A of Rashford, Asensio and Disasi - plus Olsen. Thats over £350k a week in wages - wages have room to breathe
As far as i can understand, there would be nothing stopping us signing a couple on big money right now and maybe not registering then for Europe - if needs be.
We would be miles better off as a team this way, plus confident the ones we have could do fine for us for europa. Meanwhile we would be stronger in league and domestic cups
Not quite sure why this hasnt been explored so far............
I would imagining that telling players that we are trying to sign that they will not be part of the European squad would make it harder to sell the club to them.
Exactly. European football of whatever type is attractive to players. I have a feeling Malen maybe wouldn’t have come if he’d have known about the CL position at the time.
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
No idea. If we don’t add I think it’ll be so tough.
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
No idea. If we don’t add I think it’ll be so tough.
They must think Newcastle will drop off with CL and probably no Isak, while Spurs and Man U will be better but still not top 5.
Everton are going to be a lot better this season.
Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Jonathan Wilson will write a think piece about Guardiola to explain.
Barney Ronay will say that Emery exists in his own square of light.
Both will be usurped by Johnathon Liew's hot take about Emery's use of a low block in a reserve game being akin to the absurdity of meaning a la Jean-Paul Sartre existentialism, while simultaneously comparing it to a hot cross bun from Greggs in Hull.
We've been in that position for multiple years, mainly because our turnover was not enough. That has improved massively in the last year or so, just not enough to beat. None of this was caused by 4 months of Asensio and Rashford.
Louise Taylor will make it about fucking Newcastle.Graun's average prediction for our finish this year is fifth! In the league! Why?
Jonathan Wilson will write a think piece about Guardiola to explain.
Barney Ronay will say that Emery exists in his own square of light.
Both will be usurped by Johnathon Liew's hot take about Emery's use of a low block in a reserve game being akin to the absurdity of meaning a la Jean-Paul Sartre existentialism, while simultaneously comparing it to a hot cross bun from Greggs in Hull.
Well it massively improved our second half of the season. The problem is we need to plug those gaps now.
They must think Newcastle will drop off with CL and probably no Isak, while Spurs and Man U will be better but still not top 5.
Well it massively improved our second half of the season. The problem is we need to plug those gaps now.
Yes, we found ourselves doing much better in the CL than we thought, with injuries and tiredness having an impact
It was inspired January work.
I hope so. He's magic.
Everton are going to be a lot better this season.
They’d be utter shit and likely relegated if they were worse. I reckon at best they finish 11th.
I'll be a tad jealous if they do manage to sign Dibling though.Everton are going to be a lot better this season.
They’d be utter shit and likely relegated if they were worse. I reckon at best they finish 11th.
Not sure on Dibbling, and don't think Everton is a good fit with old boggle eyes as manager.
Asensio will be vital in Europe, plus when he's a sub he's brilliant at watching a game and seeing the holes he can come on and drop into. As a squad option he's top drawer, so very happy to have him back.
Not sure on Dibbling, and don't think Everton is a good fit with old boggle eyes as manager.
Asensio will be vital in Europe, plus when he's a sub he's brilliant at watching a game and seeing the holes he can come on and drop into. As a squad option he's top drawer, so very happy to have him back.
He would be but Emery seemed to play in him games where to us it was obvious that he’d struggle and he did. This also shifted Rogers from his most dangerous position.
I’d be happy to have him back but not at the expense of a wide player, I’m greedy, so I’d like it to be as well as.
If we sign Asensio does that mean Roger’s will be played on the wing to accommodate Asensio in to the side?No, Rogers will be sold to manu, obviously.
Is Asensio actually on the cards? I thought he'd gone somewhere else?
Aston Villa are plotting a move to sign and immediately loan out Porto forward Samu Omorodion in the final month of the transfer window, according to their former senior scout.
Mick Brown, who also worked as the chief scout at Man United and Sunderland and remains very well-connected at his former clubs, exclusively told Football Insider that Villa scouts have been keeping a close eye on the 21-year-old.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have joined the chase for Nice striker Evann Guessand (24) — they are prepared to outbid Crystal Palace.
@reluctantnicko
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa are expected to try & find an agreement with Leander Dendoncker around the end of August to dissolve his contract — the club would rather not do that, as it would cost money, but there is no interest in the player. He is training with the U21’s.
@nieuwsbladsport
It's good that he has a decent personality, but which club does he play for?Biscuits FC
Why is Nicko reluctant?
I can see us getting Asensio again.
🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have joined the chase for Nice striker Evann Guessand (24) — they are prepared to outbid Crystal Palace.
@reluctantnicko
I can see us getting Asensio again.
Two mths ago I would have said no but now Im thinking yes please, anyone , ideal for the Europa.
Evann forbid! NO.🚨 NEW: Aston Villa have joined the chase for Nice striker Evann Guessand (24) — they are prepared to outbid Crystal Palace.
@reluctantnicko
Two N's Evann? No thanks!
That Guessand looks exactly the type we need. So he'll go to Palace and no doubt score against us for the next 3 seasons.
Maybe beggars can't be choosers but I don't want Asensio back. Too slow and can only play one role for us which is also Rogers best position. Faded after looking promising initially a la Coutinho, didn't do anything in the big games from what I remember. Linked up well with Rashford, but he won't be here this time.That's where I am.
Rough on pros in that situation. I think the Donk might be best to focus on changing position back to CB, he played there from memory for Belgium in a Euros or WC. Modern midfield play at a decent level requires more technical ability than he has.Hey, we need another CB; perhaps I've sussed a solution that suits everyone!
Rough on pros in that situation. I think the Donk might be best to focus on changing position back to CB, he played there from memory for Belgium in a Euros or WC. Modern midfield play at a decent level requires more technical ability than he has.Hey, we need another CB; perhaps I've sussed a solution that suits everyone!
Why is Nicko reluctant?
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1952785384070389967?t=I861L6lM3xAmtOfeEtan8Q&s=19His goalscoring record is pretty average...
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1952785384070389967?t=I861L6lM3xAmtOfeEtan8Q&s=19
His goalscoring record is pretty average...
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1952785384070389967?t=I861L6lM3xAmtOfeEtan8Q&s=19His goalscoring record is pretty average...
https://x.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1952785384070389967?t=I861L6lM3xAmtOfeEtan8Q&s=19His goalscoring record is pretty average...
There's an Ariana Grande song that goes "Yes and.... say that shit with your chest" I think it's the obvious choice.
🚨 Evann Guessand will have his Aston Villa medical tomorrow & will sign a five year contract at Aston Villa.interesting .
@lequipe
So here’s the question - if this materialises who’s off the fund it? Also what type of player is he - I literally hadn’t heard of him before today. Is he quick?!
So here’s the question - if this materialises who’s off the fund it? Also what type of player is he - I literally hadn’t heard of him before today. Is he quick?!
Quick enough, skillful and great close control. But basing that off mainly highlight reels and the odd live game.
Obligatory YouTube reel:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZcy-ivJOw&pp=ygUOZXZhbm4gZ3Vlc3NhbmQ%3D
Looks strong, skilful and versatile.
Its a squad game now especially with Thurs - Sun -Thurs rotationsObligatory YouTube reel:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HnZcy-ivJOw&pp=ygUOZXZhbm4gZ3Vlc3NhbmQ%3D
Looks strong, skilful and versatile.
The obvious option is to play him on the right but then you have to wonder what happens to Malen nevermind Bailey?
Can he play against Roma?
Can he play against Roma?
Don’t start a thread TV!
Don’t start a thread TV!
Which exciting transfer was TV wholly responsible for fucking up last time?
🚨 NEW: Beşiktaş have asked about Leon Bailey.
@MatteMoretto
wonder what they've asked....His dads phone number hopefully
1 good season the others were appalling .🚨 NEW: Beşiktaş have asked about Leon Bailey.
@MatteMoretto
I think Bailey can be exceptional and he comes across as a great guy but I think the time is right for him to go, and if it brings in enough to fund signing Guessand then I'm happy.
Where is all the new money in Turkish football coming from?I know Galatasaray sold land for about £400 million.
🚨 NEW: Beşiktaş have asked about Leon Bailey.They saw him limp off against Nashville and wanted to know if he’s ok.
@MatteMoretto
And Turkish barbers sending money home.Where is all the new money in Turkish football coming from?I know Galatasaray sold land for about £400 million.
And Turkish barbers sending money home.Where is all the new money in Turkish football coming from?I know Galatasaray sold land for about £400 million.
Well someone must be off.
And Turkish barbers sending money home.Where is all the new money in Turkish football coming from?I know Galatasaray sold land for about £400 million.
Ha. There’s no-one in the f*ckers around here, just sit around clipping each others hair.
Don’t start a thread TV!
Which exciting transfer was TV wholly responsible for fucking up last time?
People shat themselves when you started a Malen one.Don’t start a thread TV!
Which exciting transfer was TV wholly responsible for fucking up last time?
Legend Joe Bryant. And Loic Bade was reported by a number of journalists until it fell through as he didn’t want to come and fight for his place.
You’re all welcome
Don’t start a thread TV!
Which exciting transfer was TV wholly responsible for fucking up last time?
Legend Joe Bryant. And Loic Bade was reported by a number of journalists until it fell through as he didn’t want to come and fight for his place.
You’re all welcome
Don’t start a thread TV!
Which exciting transfer was TV wholly responsible for fucking up last time?
Legend Joe Bryant. And Loic Bade was reported by a number of journalists until it fell through as he didn’t want to come and fight for his place.
You’re all welcome
It's not entirely fair, but you'll have to accept that you're considered the Michael Fish of Villa transfer forecasting.
On the basis that our latest signing is for a position that we have a number of players, I am wondering Whois onthe way out.
I hope it’s Bailey.
Someone more accountancy inclined can answer I am sure, but surely Bailey and Buendia are now essentially paid off the books so anything we get for them should go into the black, plus remove their wages. So even if we got say £20M for Bailey and £12M for Buendia, it would be better than them kicking about Villa Park for a season not playing.
This month, Villa confirmed the €5m signing of Modou Keba Cisse from Austrian side LASK, edging out France’s Troyes for his services and so keeping the 19-year-old out of the clutches of the City Football Group (CFG), which owns the Ligue 2 side. He will be loaned back to LASK for the coming season.
Cisse only joined them last July from the Be Sport Academy in Senegal and didn’t make his league debut until February, so the data available on him is a much lower sample size than some of the other young additions mentioned in this article, but Villa’s checks indicate there’s something promising about him.]
If Ramsey were to leave, that would leave us with noone in the four club trained spaces.
And while last season he was the only one, leaving three empty spaces it would be a bit of a shame if we had nobody.
Well there will be a central defender added at some stage.
Wonder if we will bring Disasi back on loan at the end of the window?
On the basis that our latest signing is for a position that we have a number of players, I am wondering Whois onthe way out.
I hope it’s Bailey.
On the basis that our latest signing is for a position that we have a number of players, I am wondering Whois onthe way out.
I hope it’s Bailey.
From the very limited footage I've seen of him so far, he seems to be playing predominantly on the left or in a more central area. A replacement for Bailey would be on the right.
I’d prefer “as well as” rather than “instead of”.If Ramsey were to leave, that would leave us with noone in the four club trained spaces.
And while last season he was the only one, leaving three empty spaces it would be a bit of a shame if we had nobody.
Grealish could fill that spot........
Grealish all day ahead of Asensio. Tactical flexibility with him for starters.
Ascensio will get you more goals though
Grealish all day ahead of Asensio. Tactical flexibility with him for starters.
Don't see it myself. Joe just seems to be the left side really when he played anywhere. The few times he was central for us, England and Citeh he didn't do anything. And if we do have to move Morgan to a wing to accomodate Asensio, I would prefer he moved to the left then the right, however he was moved right to replace Bailey and ahead of Malen for the tracking back.
Grealish all day ahead of Asensio. Tactical flexibility with him for starters.
Think that might suit him. He’ll likely have a similar role under Moyes as he did here. Just get him the ball and hope he does something with it.
Think that might suit him. He’ll likely have a similar role under Moyes as he did here. Just get him the ball and hope he does something with it.
Grealish all day ahead of Asensio. Tactical flexibility with him for starters.
Grealish all day ahead of Asensio. Tactical flexibility with him for starters.
I ‘think’ I’m with you on this. Both a joy to watch when on song. But…
Has Jack still got it? What happened to Asensio in the last month we had him?
Did we ever see an Asensio screamer from outside the box - he seemed to score them for fun earlier in his career.
The idea of wanting Jack in his current state over Asensio I can't get my head round. Asensio is a very clever player that could be very useful to us. Grealish is washed up and not even close to the player he once was.
I don’t know how you can take such a dogmatic position - unless you’ve got some inside information.
Asensio faded baldly here and nobody else seems willing to buy him, so that raises Coutinho like questions.
Grealish was arguably the best player we’ve seen at Villa for 30+ years who’s been out of favour for a season, but was a key player the year before when they might have won a cup or something….
Grealish was arguably the best player we’ve seen at Villa for 30+ yearsI can't believe you said that despite seeing Jermaine Jenas for 15 minutes in that one match he played?
I don’t believe Asensio faded badly
what faded was his goalscoring not his overall performances
The Gareth Barry path... he is probably as quick as him now.
I don’t believe Asensio faded badly
what faded was his goalscoring not his overall performances
His overall performances were average enough let's be honest. Glorious first touch and strike of a ball but Coutinho vibes were strong. It's basically a 442 when he played. Rogers in that position is at least trying to get turned on the ball in dangerous areas.
It is where all the ex Citeh Villa twats go - Everton see also Delph.
Remember when we sold Idris Gueye for 7 million to Everton as we had no choice
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Yes he Elba'd us for Everton.
Asensio and Rogers need to play in the same position too.
SJM reportedly interested in the move as their stripes will be more flattering on him.Haha! More flattering than Celtic hoops for sure!
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
thats depressing for brentford fans
had no idea he was manager
🚨 BREAKING: Aston Villa consider John McGinn not for sale after rejecting an £18m offer from Everton.
@SkySportsNews
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
thats depressing for brentford fans
had no idea he was manager
Don't think he will last until Xmas. He was assistant for Ireland under poor old Stephen Kenny, spoofers. Making Nathan Collins captain then to top it off.
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
thats depressing for brentford fans
had no idea he was manager
Don't think he will last until Xmas. He was assistant for Ireland under poor old Stephen Kenny, spoofers. Making Nathan Collins captain then to top it off.
For a long time Keith Andrews was for me the worst player in the Premier League.
He then went on to become the worst pundit so maybe he’s after a trifecta.
I've said this before but he always reminds me of the depressed priest in Father Ted who's sat listening to Radiohead on the back of the bus.
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
thats depressing for brentford fans
had no idea he was manager
Don't think he will last until Xmas. He was assistant for Ireland under poor old Stephen Kenny, spoofers. Making Nathan Collins captain then to top it off.
Newcastle appear to be in a bit of crisis, I'd be telling them to do one regardless of the bid they put in, any chance to turn the screw on them must be taken.I was with a Jawdie fan today: he was moaning about the fact that there's no CEO, no Director of Football and no significant incoming transfers. The first day of the season could be a good time to play them.
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
thats depressing for brentford fans
had no idea he was manager
Don't think he will last until Xmas. He was assistant for Ireland under poor old Stephen Kenny, spoofers. Making Nathan Collins captain then to top it off.
Brentford have lost a good head coach, the captain, Mbeumo and now possibly Wissa, I think they are in for a poor season.
hmmm
head coach Keith Andrews
thats depressing for brentford fans
had no idea he was manager
Don't think he will last until Xmas. He was assistant for Ireland under poor old Stephen Kenny, spoofers. Making Nathan Collins captain then to top it off.
Brentford have lost a good head coach, the captain, Mbeumo and now possibly Wissa, I think they are in for a poor season.
Rumoured to be interested in Alexis Saelemaekers. CDBF will be pleased to learn he's a winger. Belgian, primarily right-sided but has played on the left, as well as a wing-back and full-back.
Rumoured to be interested in Alexis Saelemaekers at AC Milan.
CDBF will be pleased to learn he's a winger. Belgian, primarily right-sided but has played on the left, also as a wing-back and full-back.
Rumoured to be interested in Alexis Saelemaekers at AC Milan.
CDBF will be pleased to learn he's a winger. Belgian, primarily right-sided but has played on the left, also as a wing-back and full-back.
Do we get to sing Dr Marten Boots if he signs?
With a fair wind he might blow up on the Villa shoreline.Loaned out the last two seasons, I heard he might well be up for Sayle.Rumoured to be interested in Alexis Saelemaekers at AC Milan.Do we get to sing Dr Marten Boots if he signs?
CDBF will be pleased to learn he's a winger. Belgian, primarily right-sided but has played on the left, also as a wing-back and full-back.
Rumoured to be interested in Alexis Saelemaekers at AC Milan.
CDBF will be pleased to learn he's a winger. Belgian, primarily right-sided but has played on the left, also as a wing-back and full-back.
Do we get to sing Dr Marten Boots if he signs?
Loaned out the last two seasons, I heard he might well be up for Sayle.
Rumoured to be interested in Alexis Saelemaekers at AC Milan.
CDBF will be pleased to learn he's a winger. Belgian, primarily right-sided but has played on the left, also as a wing-back and full-back.
NEW: Aston Villa have offered Jacob Ramsey a new contract — Villa bosses want to protect the value of the player by offering him increased terms.
@markmcadamtv
Head Coach José Mourinho has given the green light to sign Jack Grealish and Youri Tielemans. Fenerbahçe's Management has set aside 50 million euros for these transfer. https://x.com/Fenereditor/status/1953929377185476784
Stop laughing at the back.
Man City aren't going to give Grealish away for nothing.It’s a question how much it will cost them to get him off the books, the problem being his wages.
you're right but it assumes that there's someone out there willing to pick up the £24m p.a. - my guess is that there currently isn't, so Citeh will take some of the wages-hit.Man City aren't going to give Grealish away for nothing.It’s a question how much it will cost them to get him off the books, the problem being his wages.
His amortised book value is around £32mil and 2 years wages of approx £24 mil a year .
So they could give him away and save nearly £50 mil in wages. I bet they would take that deal.
Agree, so it won’t be giving him away, it’s worse, they will have to pay to get him off the books.you're right but it assumes that there's someone out there willing to pick up the £24m p.a. - my guess is that there currently isn't, so Citeh will take some of the wages-hit.Man City aren't going to give Grealish away for nothing.It’s a question how much it will cost them to get him off the books, the problem being his wages.
His amortised book value is around £32mil and 2 years wages of approx £24 mil a year .
So they could give him away and save nearly £50 mil in wages. I bet they would take that deal.
My wishes for the last few weeks are to strengthen in the right back, centre back and goalkeeping positions. A nippy winger would also be a bonus. Do all that and we’ll be challenging.
My wishes for the last few weeks are to strengthen in the right back, centre back and goalkeeping positions. A nippy winger would also be a bonus. Do all that and we’ll be challenging.
We've strengthened the goalkeeping positions already, surely?
Bizot is an upgrade on Olsen. Not sure what value there would be in improving our 3rd choice.
My wishes for the last few weeks are to strengthen in the right back, centre back and goalkeeping positions. A nippy winger would also be a bonus. Do all that and we’ll be challenging.
We've strengthened the goalkeeping positions already, surely?
Bizot is an upgrade on Olsen. Not sure what value there would be in improving our 3rd choice.
You want a better goalkeeper than Emi?
Also, we’ve just bought a nippy winger.
You want a better goalkeeper than Emi?
Err yes, obviously
You want a better goalkeeper than Emi?
Err yes, obviously
But it’s obviously not ok to have an opinion because you can see the initial reaction…
Exactly. Thank you! No need to call someone MAGA!! For having a different opinion.
But it’s obviously not ok to have an opinion because you can see the initial reaction…
But it’s obviously not ok to have an opinion because you can see the initial reaction…
It’s hard to call an opinion wrong or right. I think that’s partly why it’s called an opinion, but I’m a philosophy graduate, so what do I know.
I'm afraid of the darkGoing big on the Office tonight
'Specially when I'm in a park
And there's no one else around
Ooh, I get the shivers
I don't want to see a ghost
It's a sight that I fear most
I'd rather have a piece of toast
And watch the evening news
Des’ree
I honestly don’t have any idea about the crying bit? Is crying good or bad?
I'm afraid of the darkGoing big on the Office tonight
'Specially when I'm in a park
And there's no one else around
Ooh, I get the shivers
I don't want to see a ghost
It's a sight that I fear most
I'd rather have a piece of toast
And watch the evening news
Des’ree
I honestly don’t have any idea about the crying bit? Is crying good or bad?
again, you're the one who used 'overly emotional' as a criticism so you tell us.
I'm afraid of the darkGoing big on the Office tonight
'Specially when I'm in a park
And there's no one else around
Ooh, I get the shivers
I don't want to see a ghost
It's a sight that I fear most
I'd rather have a piece of toast
And watch the evening news
Des’ree
I mean, the “I’m into philosophy” and backing it up with a Mark Twain quote couldn’t be more Brent if he tried.
I honestly don’t have any idea about the crying bit? Is crying good or bad?
again, you're the one who used 'overly emotional' as a criticism so you tell us.
Oh I understand the confusion. My over emotional comment was referring to him coming out like a steam train and flattening Hojlund. Totally unnecessary and in my “opinion” that cost us champions league football.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.
Mark Twain
I honestly don’t have any idea about the crying bit? Is crying good or bad?
again, you're the one who used 'overly emotional' as a criticism so you tell us.
Oh I understand the confusion. My over emotional comment was referring to him coming out like a steam train and flattening Hojlund. Totally unnecessary and in my “opinion” that cost us champions league football.
So you basing half of your argument against him on 1 action in 1 game? Also, Reckless is probably a better term than emotional, especially given it seemed like a choice (a poor one) to stop play rather than lashing out because he'd made a mistake.
Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.
Mark Twain
You'd probably have got a more favourable reaction if you went with “Golf is a good walk spoiled".
That’s why it’s spoiled, surely, since you’d be driving rather than walking.Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.
Mark Twain
You'd probably have got a more favourable reaction if you went with “Golf is a good walk spoiled".
I thought golf is a kind of car. Why would you be walking if you had a car?
That’s why it’s spoiled, surely, since you’d be driving rather than walking.Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.
Mark Twain
You'd probably have got a more favourable reaction if you went with “Golf is a good walk spoiled".
I thought golf is a kind of car. Why would you be walking if you had a car?
But walking with an ACL is agonyNot as much as walking without one.
Ramsey and Geordies popping up in Athletic too, they have been in for him for a while.I guess the question is "Are we prepared to sacrifice a home-grown player worth c.£50m in order to strengthen our defence and / or right side?"
I'd sell for £45m.
I'd sell for £45m.
The inevitable question is then, who would you buy as replacement?
I'd sell for £45m.
I'd sell for £45m.
The inevitable question is then, who would you buy as replacement?
Garnacho offers the things the squad lacks, namely pace (and ugly). He appears to be flirting with Chelsea though. Consequently i wonder whether a punt on Neto is viable. Probably a better player and hasn't been injured in a while.
Almost certain they'll target a player based in Europe that I've never heard of, and therefore avoid the PL tax.
It won't work if he ran backwards.
It won't work if he ran backwards.
I’m sure Lambert would make him go sideways ;)
£45M feels about right. Not a clue who you replace him with, but I am sure we will.
I'd sell for £45m.
The inevitable question is then, who would you buy as replacement?
Garnacho offers the things the squad lacks, namely pace (and ugly). He appears to be flirting with Chelsea though. Consequently i wonder whether a punt on Neto is viable. Probably a better player and hasn't been injured in a while.
Almost certain they'll target a player based in Europe that I've never heard of, and therefore avoid the PL tax.
I really like Neto and think he’d flourish here but at Chelsea I reckon he’ll go backwards.
That would mean even less pace in our forward line.
That would mean even less pace in our forward line.
Ramsey out, Asensio in 8)
I'd take that.
Would anyone keep Ramsey, sign Asensio but let McGinn go to Everton…..just a thought.Yes. No. No.
Ramsey out, Asensio in 8)
I'd take that.
Me too.
Would anyone keep Ramsey, sign Asensio but let McGinn go to Everton…..just a thought.
Exactly.Would anyone keep Ramsey, sign Asensio but let McGinn go to Everton…..just a thought.
Why would anyone want to let McGinn leave? He’d fetch minimal money but someone else to add what he adds would cost way more and be another pointless waste of time trying to find.
Yep, not much point letting McGinn leave. At worst he's a good option from the bench cover midfield, 10 and the wings, add Bogarde as well and between then we have cover for pretty much everywhere in 2 players.So, Martinez, Bogarde and McGinn is the team to play vs Newcastle, then?!
Disasi back on loan covering a percentage of his wages would do, as long as we don’t see him at right back.
Disasi back on loan covering a percentage of his wages would do, as long as we don’t see him at right back.
Ramsey out, Asensio in 8)
I'd take that.
Me too.
I think, at best, it’s a neutral impact on the squad.
Disasi back on loan covering a percentage of his wages would do, as long as we don’t see him at right back.
Disasi back on loan covering a percentage of his wages would do, as long as we don’t see him at right back.
I thought he was pants to be honest. Wouldn't want him back
I’m happy for us to develop Bogarde for the CB option but if we did buy someone, I like that Ordonez from Brugge.
Would anyone keep Ramsey, sign Asensio but let McGinn go to Everton…..just a thought.
Why would anyone want to let McGinn leave? He’d fetch minimal money but someone else to add what he adds would cost way more and be another pointless waste of time trying to find.
Would anyone keep Ramsey, sign Asensio but let McGinn go to Everton…..just a thought.
Why would anyone want to let McGinn leave? He’d fetch minimal money but someone else to add what he adds would cost way more and be another pointless waste of time trying to find.
It crops up every summer "I don't think McGinn makes our best X1"....every season he proves them wrong. McGinn is a Villa legend, end of.
Would anyone keep Ramsey, sign Asensio but let McGinn go to Everton…..just a thought.
Why would anyone want to let McGinn leave? He’d fetch minimal money but someone else to add what he adds would cost way more and be another pointless waste of time trying to find.
It crops up every summer "I don't think McGinn makes our best X1"....every season he proves them wrong. McGinn is a Villa legend, end of.
Then after posting, I see this - https://the4thofficial.net/2025/08/aston-villa-ready-to-hijack-marseilles-move-for-the-ecuadorian-defender-will-it-be-a-good-move/
Then after posting, I see this - https://the4thofficial.net/2025/08/aston-villa-ready-to-hijack-marseilles-move-for-the-ecuadorian-defender-will-it-be-a-good-move/
I can see us getting Asensio again.
Two mths ago I would have said no but now Im thinking yes please, anyone , ideal for the Europa.
Only way MA happens is very late in the window and if PSG help out on wages. We paid his whole wage from Jan - this is something given the european SCR that we cannot look to do again
MA wants to rejoin if he can, Villa had a very honest chat with him to basically say we cant do anything now given our battles with SCR etc so if a right move comes up for you dont be holding off waiting for us
Donnarumma is available now. Just announced he's leaving PSG. So that should all but confirm Martínez isn't leaving. The big man is staying.
I can see us getting Asensio again.
Two mths ago I would have said no but now Im thinking yes please, anyone , ideal for the Europa.
Only way MA happens is very late in the window and if PSG help out on wages. We paid his whole wage from Jan - this is something given the european SCR that we cannot look to do again
MA wants to rejoin if he can, Villa had a very honest chat with him to basically say we cant do anything now given our battles with SCR etc so if a right move comes up for you dont be holding off waiting for us
Back in talks. PSG open to paying a chunk of his salary to cover the year. Slightly complicated by fact hes a free agent after this season. So discussions also around PSG paying him off his year so he take a reduced wage with us on a 2 year deal
Donnarumma is available now. Just announced he's leaving PSG. So that should all but confirm Martínez isn't leaving. The big man is staying.
Won’t that mean PSG need a goalie or have they already got one to replace him
Donnarumma is available now. Just announced he's leaving PSG. So that should all but confirm Martínez isn't leaving. The big man is staying.
Won’t that mean PSG need a goalie or have they already got one to replace him
They've got that Chevalier. We were linked when it looked like Martínez was leaving.
Disasi back on loan covering a percentage of his wages would do, as long as we don’t see him at right back.
I thought he was pants to be honest. Wouldn't want him back
He certainly was at right back but considering he was part of the A squad (I presume), he’d be eligible for Europe so could be useful.
2-3 more in is what we’re planning for
2-3 more in is what we’re planning for
Just a hunch or have you seen something?
JJ Villa boy through and through. No way he wants to leave Villa. Jack had options to sign for teams who were going to win the league - and as it append
Asensio and a decent centre back to come next week I reckon. I’m hoping we are keeping Rogers and not letting Chelsea gets their mits on him. Some swap deal for Tosin and another, plus money was touted a while ago. Just musing though.
^^ I know they play different positions, but they’re both loosely ‘attacking midfielders’, and Asensio scored more for us in his half-season than JJ has ever managed in a full one.There you go with your facts again, you will be telling us next it’s better to play defenders that concede less goals.
^^ I know they play different positions, but they’re both loosely ‘attacking midfielders’, and Asensio scored more for us in his half-season than JJ has ever managed in a full one.There you go with your facts again, you will be telling us next it’s better to play defenders that concede less goals.
We do tend to have already replaced what we lose with what we have already acquired. Yuri being miles better than Dougie stands out.
Malen is our Rashford replacement, Evann I assumed was our Bailey replacement. Maybe Rogers is our JJ replacement?
If that is the case, then in a direct 1:1 for the XI I think we are stronger, as Malen will score double figures this season and I quite like the fact he is warp speed over 5 yards. I don't know enough about Evann and I'm not trusting myself to spell his second name without Googling and I can't be arsed to open another tab- but can he be as inconsistent as Leon? Nah surely not.
Big Morgs is just poetry.
Depth is the issue though. A front 4 of Evann, Ollie, Rogers and Malen looks tasty, but not much behind it.
^^ I know they play different positions, but they’re both loosely ‘attacking midfielders’, and Asensio scored more for us in his half-season than JJ has ever managed in a full one.
After the last couple of years it has become obvious that we are never winning a trophy again. May as well accept that and try to enjoy ourselves by signing some fun players, and Asensio is fun to watch. Would love to see him back again, the handsome devil.
Asensio is not a like for like for Coutinho, that is peak pessimism.
Guessand replaces Rashford.
Bizot replaces Olsen.
Asensio replaces Asensio. (IF)
other than that, we haven't replaced Disasi and that's it.
We've a load of players back from loans, Buendia, Iling Junior, Dobbin, Moreno and then the ones we want to lose, Dendoncker, Hause (gone), Coutinho (gone).
We've spent £37m on Guessand and Ozcan and received £7m for Kesler-Hayden (£4m) and a £3m loan fee for Barrenechea.
That £30m deficit explains the potential £40m for Ramsey to put us in a positive position for UEFA.
Why would you skew the stats to ignore 5 of his goals for us?
After the last couple of years it has become obvious that we are never winning a trophy again. May as well accept that and try to enjoy ourselves by signing some fun players, and Asensio is fun to watch. Would love to see him back again, the handsome devil.
This is exactly where I am.
We've rarely signed a superstar in my 50 years following us.I have few years on you, and we have had many players who have got the excitement juices flowing.
We've rarely signed a superstar in my 50 years following us.I have few years on you, and we have had many players who have got the excitement juices flowing.
RCF - you needed to go back 1-2 pages for discussion on Ordonez.
PSR isn't an issue...SCR is.
I read an article last night that said PSG are going to pay Asensio's last year of his contract off so that we can offer terms that fit our situation. So we're probably paying PSG an extra few million to enable them to write off his final year.
That way we're ok on the wages and the transfer fee comes out of our revenue. Cooking the books basically. The ratio UEFA are bothered about is wages to turnover so it doesn't matter if we make a loss if my interpretation is right.
RCF - you needed to go back 1-2 pages for discussion on Ordonez.
Like many Villa players signed they were a tier or two down from superstar. Collymore would be close. Most of our best players in my time came through the academy or we turned them into superstars. The big names we did sign were usually on the decline by the time we signed them.
Were some of BFR signings superstars? I was too young to really know - but the likes of Saunders, Townsend and Houghton - were they big names around there peak? Trying to think of any really big playersWere some of BFR signings superstars? I was too young to really know - but the likes of Saunders, Townsend and Houghton - were they big names around there peak? Trying to think of any really big players we signed? Collymore I guess.
We signed Schmeichael and Ginola in their physical prime beast phases.
Maybe my use of the term ‘superstar’ was a bit excessive.
But I would hope we will soon be in a position again where we are buying players that are a step up from what we have and will improve the team.
Buying potential is all well and good, and is serving a purpose, but I wish we’re in the market to be looking at players like Isak (not him specifically…it’s an example).
Will we ever be ALLOWED to break our transfer record or are those days gone ?
I thought Rudolph was decent in his time here, and if he had stayed one more year we might have had his son on our books as well. Instead we replaced him with Enckleman for the next season and look what happened there.
We found Gareth Barry, Dwight Yorke and Andy Gray who went on not only to do well for us but become bigger with moves away. Grealish is the only truly home grown superstar we've nurtured and developed (not denigrating many other great players that we've produced; but Jack had star quality).I thought Rudolph was decent in his time here, and if he had stayed one more year we might have had his son on our books as well. Instead we replaced him with Enckleman for the next season and look what happened there.He was okay for a few months considering he was 38 but soon was just going through the motions for the rest of the season.
As for us producing superstars, it's a pretty short list; Emi, Grealish and Benteke who was a joy to watch and scored every type of goal possible. Liverpool completely ruined him. Rogers has potential to join that select group.
Probably Unai is the only real superstar we've ever signed. David O'Leary and Martin O'Neil may think differently but they'd be way off, the twats!
Has anyone mentioned Luc Nillis?its not all about good looks you know.
Has anyone mentioned Luc Nillis?
Reporting for The Athletic, Ornstein has confirmed that Roma are in talks with Aston Villa over the potential signing of Bailey, who will be allowed to leave the Midlands club this summer.
Bailey, who earns £120,000-a-week at Villa Park, only signed a new contract in February 2024, with his current deal set to expire in 2027.
Would that stop Ramsey going or mean for certain Asensio comes in? Plus another one?
Would that stop Ramsey going or mean for certain Asensio comes in? Plus another one?
Jeez, your guess is as good as mine.
To recap
Ramsey’s offered a new contract
Ramsey rejects contract.
Valencia interested in Garcia
Saudi FC are in for Ramsey, £40m quoted.
Ramsey’s not necessarily leaving
Villa and Ramsey discussing a newer new contract
Villa discussing Asensio move with PSG
Villa agree €20m deal with PSG and a 3 yr contract with Asensio
As Roma are in for Bailey.
Have I missed anything?
I'm off for a lie-down in a darkened room.
It'll be a loan with an option to buy, won't it?
Maybe my use of the term ‘superstar’ was a bit excessive.
But I would hope we will soon be in a position again where we are buying players that are a step up from what we have and will improve the team.
Buying potential is all well and good, and is serving a purpose, but I wish we’re in the market to be looking at players like Isak (not him specifically…it’s an example).
Will we ever be ALLOWED to break our transfer record or are those days gone ?
We've broken our transfer record 4 summers in 6 since we came back up so it feels like you're being a bit over-dramatic here.
I missed the bits about the Saudi's being in for Ramsey and us agreeing a deal for Asensio.
Maybe my use of the term ‘superstar’ was a bit excessive.
But I would hope we will soon be in a position again where we are buying players that are a step up from what we have and will improve the team.
Buying potential is all well and good, and is serving a purpose, but I wish we’re in the market to be looking at players like Isak (not him specifically…it’s an example).
Will we ever be ALLOWED to break our transfer record or are those days gone ?
We've broken our transfer record 4 summers in 6 since we came back up so it feels like you're being a bit over-dramatic here.
Obviously the context of what I said has gone over your head
Maybe my use of the term ‘superstar’ was a bit excessive.
But I would hope we will soon be in a position again where we are buying players that are a step up from what we have and will improve the team.
Buying potential is all well and good, and is serving a purpose, but I wish we’re in the market to be looking at players like Isak (not him specifically…it’s an example).
Will we ever be ALLOWED to break our transfer record or are those days gone ?
We've broken our transfer record 4 summers in 6 since we came back up so it feels like you're being a bit over-dramatic here.
Obviously the context of what I said has gone over your head
Oh fuck off, I got what you said, I just think it's a load of whiny bullshit. The rules aren't great for us and this summer has been tough but "they'll never let us sign a big transfer ever again" is utter crap.
Twitter rumours about Dendonker to Ajax. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I know it’s hot but let’s be nice to each other.
Twitter rumours about Dendonker to Ajax. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Blimey, it'd take ages to grind him down to the correct granularity of powder, and I don't think he'd have cleaning qualities anyway.
I hate life.
I hate life.
I see we are being linked with someone called Shakeandvac.
To be honest since we have come back up most of our signings have been at least ok. Only really Wes, Coutihno and Donk spring to mind as disasters for differing reaosns.
But we got rid of a rubbish player to bring him in, so no great loss.
So what are the SCR rules then, broadly. For those too lazy to Google.
But we got rid of a rubbish player to bring him in, so no great loss.
I see we're still doing the cleaning puns.
The Club agrees to be subject to a sporting restriction and, as a consequence, may not
register any new player on its List A to UEFA club competitions unless the List A Transfer
Balance is positive.
• The List A Transfer Balance is defined as the difference between the cost savings from
outgoing players (“Cost savings”) and the new costs from incoming players (“New costs”) at
any applicable deadline for the Club’s submission of its List A
Trossard would be good, IMO.
QuoteThe Club agrees to be subject to a sporting restriction and, as a consequence, may not
register any new player on its List A to UEFA club competitions unless the List A Transfer
Balance is positive.
• The List A Transfer Balance is defined as the difference between the cost savings from
outgoing players (“Cost savings”) and the new costs from incoming players (“New costs”) at
any applicable deadline for the Club’s submission of its List A
That was on the punishment statement, but I haven't seen anything mentioning how UEFA are working out "costs". If you have a link VTID let me know. (Preferrably UEFA directly as external people have interpreted UEFA rules wrong before, eg the amount of players allowed to be swapped in Jan).
QuoteThe Club agrees to be subject to a sporting restriction and, as a consequence, may not
register any new player on its List A to UEFA club competitions unless the List A Transfer
Balance is positive.
• The List A Transfer Balance is defined as the difference between the cost savings from
outgoing players (“Cost savings”) and the new costs from incoming players (“New costs”) at
any applicable deadline for the Club’s submission of its List A
That was on the punishment statement, but I haven't seen anything mentioning how UEFA are working out "costs". If you have a link VTID let me know. (Preferrably UEFA directly as external people have interpreted UEFA rules wrong before, eg the amount of players allowed to be swapped in Jan).
The bit I'm unclear on is how sales impact it. For example, if we sell Ramsey for £40m is that all added to the positive column (along with £3m wages saved). It appears to be the case but if so this would put us positive to the the tune of about £50m when we include savings on wages for Rashford, Asensio, Disasi and the outgoings we've already had, which means there's potential for a bit of a splurge in the next couple of weeks, and if Bailey goes as well the 2-3 we want in could suddenly be from a level or 2 above where we thought we were shopping.
Whats A List - sorry if I have missed it?
Nah, he's no pace or power. Just keep JJ and give him the same money as Trossard wants.
Trossard's binocular celebration is lame compared to Ginny's googoly-eyed efforts.
And there's no way Malen & García are on 150k a week combined. García came from La Segunda. H&Vs hotshots earn more than he does.
I can't help making comparisons with Coutinho re Asensio
I can't help making comparisons with Coutinho re Asensio
Aye, once bitten…
I can't help making comparisons with Coutinho re Asensio
I can't help making comparisons with Coutinho re Asensio
Aye, once bitten…
Yep, it’s the Villa way. He’ll make a few contributions, get injured and fizzle out on to the bomb squad list
Trossard's binocular celebration is lame compared to Ginny's googoly-eyed efforts.
And there's no way Malen & García are on 150k a week combined. García came from La Segunda. H&Vs hotshots earn more than he does.
Malen’s on a reported nearly £140k…
I can't help making comparisons with Coutinho re Asensio
Aye, once bitten…
Yep, it’s the Villa way. He’ll make a few contributions, get injured and fizzle out on to the bomb squad list
How miserable! Ha ha
With a full pre season in him Asensio will be great.But he hasn't had a full pre season, not with us anyway
With a full pre season in him Asensio will be great.
I’m often amazed at how miserable people can be on the eve of a new season. If I couldn’t get excited about Villa now, I think I’d give up.
At least wait until we see the first misplaced pass, or even the first team sheet before deciding that everything is shit.
I’m often amazed at how miserable people can be on the eve of a new season. If I couldn’t get excited about Villa now, I think I’d give up.
At least wait until we see the first misplaced pass, or even the first team sheet before deciding that everything is shit.
I know especially as Brummies have a reputation of being ultra optimistic and seeing all things sunny side up
With a full pre season in him Asensio will be great.But he hasn't had a full pre season, not with us anyway
With a full pre season in him Asensio will be great.
You thinking 2026/27 season? He’ll have been mothballed this summer, or did he play in the pre season tournament?
Asensio will be fine. He'll be a super sub for a few games, the crowd will quickly realise he's top drawer again, and over the season contribute 15 plus goals or assists, which will easily justify his fee. He's a quality footballer with a top attitude that loved being at Villa and actually wants to play for us again
Has Harvey Elliot gone anywhere yet? I know he's not a left sided midfielder but he can play centrally and might be worth adding, especially if Bailey goes.
Has Harvey Elliot gone anywhere yet? I know he's not a left sided midfielder but he can play centrally and might be worth adding, especially if Bailey goes.
Bit of a Buendia clone for me, need someone with some pace and strength IMO
Pace is key - it's what we lacked last season.
Maybe he's fully fit now and showing he's close to the level he was 2 summers ago when Emery was building a lot of our play through him. He's good on the press, can play from the right and does have good ability on the half turn. With us light on numbers, Buendia staying isn't the end of the world.
Surely we are not going to sell ramsey and use the money on 2 30s in asensio and trossard. That for me would not be good business
According to tom collomosse we dont spending the money - https://x.com/TomCollomosse/status/1955938378244903314
According to tom collomosse we dont spending the money - https://x.com/TomCollomosse/status/1955938378244903314
I can’t bang my head against the wall hard enough.
Has Harvey Elliot gone anywhere yet? I know he's not a left sided midfielder but he can play centrally and might be worth adding, especially if Bailey goes.
Bit of a Buendia clone for me, need someone with some pace and strength IMO
It sounds like we're just going to have to make do for a season, and perhaps accept that it will come with a dip in the league form. Hopefully we will win the Europa League*.
*We will not win the Europa League.
Has Harvey Elliot gone anywhere yet? I know he's not a left sided midfielder but he can play centrally and might be worth adding, especially if Bailey goes.
Bit of a Buendia clone for me, need someone with some pace and strength IMO
Whenever we are linked with doing business with Liverpool I always think of Baros.
According to tom collomosse we dont spending the money - https://x.com/TomCollomosse/status/1955938378244903314
I would expect the truth to be somewhere inbetween. How does it work with this wages Ratio - do sales player sales offset it? Im assuming not?
They really need to sort this Man City stuff out - as with it rumbling away whilst were effectively being forced to weaken our squad isnt a good look. I really wouldnt be suprised if a Villa, Newcastle or Forest end up taking the whole FFP to the courts to knock down the whole house of cards.
I would expect the truth to be somewhere inbetween. How does it work with this wages Ratio - do sales player sales offset it? Im assuming not?
Im not 100% on how UEFA work but we have a massive wage credit from our A squad last season, Guessand & Bizot fees are close to covered but the loan fees for Rashford and Asencio. We probably would have around 20-30 million amortized if we sell Ramsey for 40 million after taking these two into account.
That would leave us around 20 million to split between a signing and a loan or two loans etc and still be under budget.
Thats how its been explained to me, yes we have to sell an A list player but we can reinvest.
Let’s be clear - we can’t be selling Ramsey and signing no one. That absolutely can’t happen.
They really need to sort this Man City stuff out - as with it rumbling away whilst were effectively being forced to weaken our squad isnt a good look. I really wouldnt be suprised if a Villa, Newcastle or Forest end up taking the whole FFP to the courts to knock down the whole house of cards.
I think they Diaby sale covered his remaining amortization and left us in profit. Onana costs us 10 million a season for the next 4 years in fees alone but that would already be accounted for. so If we end up with 20 million spare for signings thats 2 50 million players over 5 year contract but that wages have to be taken into account also so more likely 2 30 million players or 1 35 mil plus a loan or two would be my expectation.
I think they Diaby sale covered his remaining amortization and left us in profit. Onana costs us 10 million a season for the next 4 years in fees alone but that would already be accounted for. so If we end up with 20 million spare for signings thats 2 50 million players over 5 year contract but that wages have to be taken into account also so more likely 2 30 million players or 1 35 mil plus a loan or two would be my expectation.
Thank you. So we can sign a couple of players?
I do wonder if Monchi is briefing press on worst case scenarios to enable us to do business without people taking the piss on fees. It's an old tactic but one we could be legitimately trying.
Agreed Paul. What we all need is some kind of mechanism that ambitious owners can actually put money into a club to allow it to perform and grow.
Let’s put it this way. Before we signed Guessand we were skint and couldn’t sign anyone for all the reasons being bandied about by the media today. And we are about to sell Ramsey so our situation hardly gets worse. If Bailey heads to Roma then that’s a bit more room to play. So I’d just see what’s going to happen in the next two weeks and only pay attention to the likes of Tanswell or Townley. I don’t imagine we are making a bid for Mbappe but we will get in one or two be it signings or loans. And that’s form with what we we’ve got and who we kept.
The non local media can keep saying what they want. Yesterday I listened the Guardian podcast and most of them had us finishing 9th. So fuck them. I’ll enjoy when we prove them wrong.
We could do a lot worse than getting Asensio and Kang in Lee from PSG. The latter would be a massive marketing signing too.
We could do a lot worse than getting Asensio and Kang in Lee from PSG. The latter would be a massive marketing signing too.
Coutinho was meant to be massive for brand awareness too.
We could do a lot worse than getting Asensio and Kang in Lee from PSG. The latter would be a massive marketing signing too.
Coutinho was meant to be massive for brand awareness too.
We could do a lot worse than getting Asensio and Kang in Lee from PSG. The latter would be a massive marketing signing too.
Coutinho was meant to be massive for brand awareness too.
I'd still argue he was.
High profile players we signed after him (and our current manager) all cited his name as one of the reasons why they were joining a mid table>lower prem club at the time.
Not sure it boosted our shirt sales in Brasil. But def increased our recognition.
Im not sure about that - I think we are - a lot of non Villa kids favourite players are Villa players - Watkins, Emi etc. Its a long game - and one were fighting with both hands tied but I were getting there.We could do a lot worse than getting Asensio and Kang in Lee from PSG. The latter would be a massive marketing signing too.
Coutinho was meant to be massive for brand awareness too.
I'd still argue he was.
High profile players we signed after him (and our current manager) all cited his name as one of the reasons why they were joining a mid table>lower prem club at the time.
Not sure it boosted our shirt sales in Brasil. But def increased our recognition.
I'm not sure it did. Neither did us qualifying and doing quite well in the CL. Nothing much has happened as to how we're generally perceived, I don't think.
Let’s put it this way. Before we signed Guessand we were skint and couldn’t sign anyone for all the reasons being bandied about by the media today. And we are about to sell Ramsey so our situation hardly gets worse. If Bailey heads to Roma then that’s a bit more room to play. So I’d just see what’s going to happen in the next two weeks and only pay attention to the likes of Tanswell or Townley. I don’t imagine we are making a bid for Mbappe but we will get in one or two be it signings or loans. And that’s form with what we we’ve got and who we kept.
The non local media can keep saying what they want. Yesterday I listened the Guardian podcast and most of them had us finishing 9th. So fuck them. I’ll enjoy when we prove them wrong.
Townley has said about the restrictions too.
We have 3 senior centre-backs, we definitely need another.That is the one signing we need to make; any other would be a luxury, IMHO.
Use the JJ money to get Antonio Silva from Benfica. Competition for Konsa or we could play them both in some games, basically a Diego Carlos upgrade.
If Bailey goes out on loan bring in a pacy winger on loan.
Use the JJ money to get Antonio Silva from Benfica. Competition for Konsa or we could play them both in some games, basically a Diego Carlos upgrade.
If Bailey goes out on loan bring in a pacy winger on loan.
Another one of my football manager legends haha
I just listened to Townley on a live podcast (didnt know that was a thing - but doing shitty "Making Content" work which I hate so easily distracted).
From listening to it, I think what there saying is selling Ramsey isnt a silver bullet - we still have limiations. So players will come in - but if your expecting us to drop 60m on Garnacho then were not going to.
I think we'll get two more bodies in - most likely Archer and Jayden.
A LOT of carefully placed media leaks at the moment. Think due to the homegrown money in, some supporters are expecting us to suddenly be "free" and able to start splashing the cash. That was never going to be the case this summer given the SCR/PSR balance stuff.
But we will address the gaps and depth. Expecting 2-3 in. Whether its a mix of loans or perms, could be anything. But we can have room to bring more in now
More will leave also. Bailey, Moreno, Dendonker all will go also
Hey Vinnie
Are my numbers roughly right then now JJ has gone?
We have about 15-20 million amortised to spend?
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
Use the JJ money to get Antonio Silva from Benfica. Competition for Konsa or we could play them both in some games, basically a Diego Carlos upgrade.
A LOT of carefully placed media leaks at the moment. Think due to the homegrown money in, some supporters are expecting us to suddenly be "free" and able to start splashing the cash. That was never going to be the case this summer given the SCR/PSR balance stuff.
But we will address the gaps and depth. Expecting 2-3 in. Whether its a mix of loans or perms, could be anything. But we can have room to bring more in now
More will leave also. Bailey, Moreno, Dendonker all will go also
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
I think the aim is we give psg an extra 5million euros and they give it Marco so he signs for us for a much lower wage. Closer to the likes of Mings etc
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
I think the aim is we give psg an extra 5million euros and they give it Marco so he signs for us for a much lower wage. Closer to the likes of Mings etc
Hmm, so what is the actual fee being mooted?
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
I think the aim is we give psg an extra 5million euros and they give it Marco so he signs for us for a much lower wage. Closer to the likes of Mings etc
Hmm, so what is the actual fee being mooted?
20 million euros on a 3 year deal. Was being banded around yesterday.
Roma are buying sancho does that mean they won’t want Leon?
20 million euros on a 3 year deal. Was being banded around yesterday.
Ah. As you were then, I’d prefer we spent the money and wages elsewhere if possible.
20 million euros on a 3 year deal. Was being banded around yesterday.
Ah. As you were then, I’d prefer we spent the money and wages elsewhere if possible.
DCL is still a free agent, so be careful what you wish for.
Roma want Sancho and Bailey
Roma want Sancho and Bailey
Roma want Sancho and Bailey
Are they flogging Soule?
Some speculation that we're in talks with Arsenal to sign Leandro Trossard......thoughts if true?
NO FISHING.
Some speculation that we're in talks with Arsenal to sign Leandro Trossard......thoughts if true?
20 million euros on a 3 year deal. Was being banded around yesterday.
Ah. As you were then, I’d prefer we spent the money and wages elsewhere if possible.
DCL is still a free agent, so be careful what you wish for.
He’s not, he signed for Leeds
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
Surely there’s no fee involved ….they just want him off their books??
imo I think we’d be mad to spend £20m on Asensio plus his biggish wages.
I’d be open to another loan.
Surely there’s no fee involved ….they just want him off their books??
Probably looking for us to get them off the hook for his wages.
Surely we're just chumming the water too see who bites right now.
I'd really like that El Khanous say Leicester, think he's got something.
Surely we're just chumming the water too see who bites right now.
I'd really like that El Khanous say Leicester, think he's got something.
Christ this thread has been carping on for months and still we have only signed one first teamer and a few minnows.
About as funny as Schindler's List.
Christ this thread has been carping on for months and still we have only signed one first teamer and a few minnows.
The £40m isn't a one window thing though. Whatever we generate, or spend, has a longer term impact covering a few seasons.
With Bailey going, a right winger, Asensio and a right sided centre back that can play right back after surely must gets now.
Asensio can play that dual role of creator against lower half teams at home, super sub in bigger games finding the space against tiring legs, he's top drawer at it.
Right wing, please Villa go find a fast, good option to give us a genuine threat.
At the back that Canvot must surely be in our thoughts now, young, potential huge profit, already passing first team football. PSR dream.
Well it’s only welcome if we bring some quality in - we are very light.
Bailey going would be very welcome. He has said yes to the move to roma according to matteo moretto
Hopefully its permanent
Can he play centre-half? Would seem an odd one, otherwise.
🚨🟣🔵 Aston Villa have made contact to be informed on Hector Fort deal as Barcelona RB could leave this month.19 years old with 24 first team appearances over 2 years.
Initial talks ongoing.
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Depends if we've got a buyer to give us £14.59 profit on Garcia.
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
Presumably they do if we get a fee for them though as they increase revenue. (Seems unlikely we will though)
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
I get that they wouldn't affect the cost side if the equation for UEFA purposes, but surely income is income? It would be perverse for us not to be allowed to include transfer income just because they weren't part of last year's list (again, assuming we actually got anything for either).
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
Presumably they do if we get a fee for them though as they increase revenue. (Seems unlikely we will though)
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
Presumably they do if we get a fee for them though as they increase revenue. (Seems unlikely we will though)
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
That can’t be the case, surely… I get the cost side but surely income is income. We didn’t have a Guinness deal last year, does that mean we can’t include the revenue from that in it? Where’s the line drawn…
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
Presumably they do if we get a fee for them though as they increase revenue. (Seems unlikely we will though)
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
That can’t be the case, surely… I get the cost side but surely income is income. We didn’t have a Guinness deal last year, does that mean we can’t include the revenue from that in it? Where’s the line drawn…
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
Presumably they do if we get a fee for them though as they increase revenue. (Seems unlikely we will though)
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
That can’t be the case, surely… I get the cost side but surely income is income. We didn’t have a Guinness deal last year, does that mean we can’t include the revenue from that in it? Where’s the line drawn…
Will be a brave soul to try draught Guinness from a plastic glass next Saturday at Villa Park! Let us know how it goes
Should be fine, and they can dispense with that fucking stupid wait - that makes no difference and I will die on this hill - that forces us into a fucking marketing pantomime every time I just want a fucking pint and not a chance to squeeze in a chapter of Ulyses while I wait for the bastard thing.
Will be a brave soul to try draught Guinness from a plastic glass next Saturday at Villa Park! Let us know how it goes
Should be fine, and they can dispense with that fucking stupid wait - that makes no difference and I will die on this hill - that forces us into a fucking marketing pantomime every time I just want a fucking pint and not a chance to squeeze in a chapter of Ulyses while I wait for the bastard thing.
And to think they still let heathens like you into the country. SMH.
Should be fine, and they can dispense with that fucking stupid wait - that makes no difference and I will die on this hill - that forces us into a fucking marketing pantomime every time I just want a fucking pint and not a chance to squeeze in a chapter of Ulyses while I wait for the bastard thing.
And to think they still let heathens like you into the country. SMH.
It's spending three weeks in Ireland that's radicalised me! They make you wait twice as long. When I'm in England I insist that they just pour it straight through, but I didn't dare trying over there, not in an English accent..
it dawned on me last night i Hadn't counted Malen in my calculations.
If my numbers were roughly right by the time we count Malen in we are very tight for the Uefa squad rules again.
Still have room for 1 permanent maybe and 1 loan. but if Bailey goes we have some extra money to play with.
Bundia and Donk wont make a blind bit of difference unfortunately.
Presumably they do if we get a fee for them though as they increase revenue. (Seems unlikely we will though)
Not to the UEFA rules, because neither were in that squad.
That can’t be the case, surely… I get the cost side but surely income is income. We didn’t have a Guinness deal last year, does that mean we can’t include the revenue from that in it? Where’s the line drawn…
Will be a brave soul to try draught Guinness from a plastic glass next Saturday at Villa Park! Let us know how it goes
The bar staff have been on intensive training on how to pour a pint very very slowly
I have been spoilt by many visits to Dublin, I can not drink Guinness anywhere else other than in Ireland.
Non Irish Guinness is pasteurised I believe.
I have been spoilt by many visits to Dublin, I can not drink Guinness anywhere else other than in Ireland.
Non Irish Guinness is pasteurised I believe.
Thanks. :)I have been spoilt by many visits to Dublin, I can not drink Guinness anywhere else other than in Ireland.
Non Irish Guinness is pasteurised I believe.
It's the same product.
The way it's looked after is different, that's all. Most pubs here don't dedicate specific systems for it, whereas in Ireland they do. There are a number of pubs in this country that do, you just need to know where to look.
Best 10 pubs in England and Scotland for Guinness (according to Guinness) are: Mulligans, Manchester, The Banbury Cross in Oxford,The Devonshire in London, The Railway Hotel in Scotland, The New Albany Pub in Coventry, The Black Horse, in London, The Dog & Partridge in Sheffield, The Al Bear in North Tyneside, The Bulls Head in Loughborough and Kitty O’Hanlons in Plymouth.
🚨🟣🔵 Aston Villa have made contact to be informed on Hector Fort deal as Barcelona RB could leave this month.If this happens then Garcia will go but perhaps also Maatsen.Fort will want gametime and he can play LB as well.A right sided defender to be bought and he or Konsa can provide RB cover.
Initial talks ongoing.
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I have been spoilt by many visits to Dublin, I can not drink Guinness anywhere else other than in Ireland.
Non Irish Guinness is pasteurised I believe.
It's the same product.
The way it's looked after is different, that's all. Most pubs here don't dedicate specific systems for it, whereas in Ireland they do. There are a number of pubs in this country that do, you just need to know where to look.
Best 10 pubs in England and Scotland for Guinness (according to Guinness) are: Mulligans, Manchester, The Banbury Cross in Oxford,The Devonshire in London, The Railway Hotel in Scotland, The New Albany Pub in Coventry, The Black Horse, in London, The Dog & Partridge in Sheffield, The Al Bear in North Tyneside, The Bulls Head in Loughborough and Kitty O’Hanlons in Plymouth.
Guiness tastes like shit. No one likes it, some just think it's cool to pretend they do.
It is so heavy like a meal , But then I drink Prosecco with the ladies so what do I know
Guiness tastes like shit. No one likes it, some just think it's cool to pretend they do.
Guiness tastes like shit. No one likes it, some just think it's cool to pretend they do.
Always been extremely popular and a delightful beverage IMO.
I don't see the connection between Trossard and Mcginn.Fair point ,there isn't really.🤔
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I love Guinness and consider myself something of a expert and connoisseur (a bit like Paul e is on everything 😃 )
Anyone tried Guinness from a can? Is it as shit as I imagine it to be?
Right up my street thenAnyone tried Guinness from a can? Is it as shit as I imagine it to be?
It depends on the individual. For example, I have a very unsophisticated palette and low standards so I don't mind it.
Anyone tried Guinness from a can? Is it as shit as I imagine it to be?
Right up my street thenAnyone tried Guinness from a can? Is it as shit as I imagine it to be?
It depends on the individual. For example, I have a very unsophisticated palette and low standards so I don't mind it.
Reports that we still can't spend the £40m raised from selling Ramsey is very concerning if true. How are the finances so dire especially after having the highest turnover ever last season on the back of playing in the Champions League? The squad depth is looking thin - a couple of injuries could easily derail the season early. Our top-six rivals have mostly all strengthened.
The answer is that our wages as a % of revenue has been the problem and we are playing catch up.Reports that we still can't spend the £40m raised from selling Ramsey is very concerning if true. How are the finances so dire especially after having the highest turnover ever last season on the back of playing in the Champions League? The squad depth is looking thin - a couple of injuries could easily derail the season early. Our top-six rivals have mostly all strengthened.
But that's the problem. We are not short of cash indeed we have owners that want to spend but are prevented from doing so. The absurdity of PSR is it seems to only look at revenue and not at the overall financial health of a club.You can have mountains of debt as long as you have the revenue to service it. Being debt free like us counts for nothing.
Anyone tried Guinness from a can? Is it as shit as I imagine it to be?
Anyone tried Guinness from a can? Is it as shit as I imagine it to be?
I haven't tried it with the new Nitrosurge device. Wrt the regular draught Guinness can, I'd say it's adequate. You'd be disappointed if you got it in a pub, but not bad enough to bring it back to the bar and ask for a replacement pint.
Plenty of people tried to kid themselves during covid times that the cans weren't actually bad. A myth quickly dispelled as soon as the pubs reopened. I like it just a bit cooler than room temperature, cold Guinness isn't for me, and it's not a drink for warm weather either. Goes flat quickly.
Have never tried the African Guinness, meant to be a lot stronger but obviously very popular in Africa.
Heineken tried the frankly awful Islands Edge here recently anyway, like a tea after taste off it. No surprise it bombed but they still brew the perfectly reasonable Murphys and Beamish with little or no marketing. Murphy's is decent, bit sweeter than Guinness for me. Beamish, of course Cork has to be different, but very popular down there. Pretty stouty/filling but still ok for 2-3.
I think Unai’s comments are pretty clear that we will be adding.
Have never tried the African Guinness, meant to be a lot stronger but obviously very popular in Africa.