Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[eamonn]

Agreed on Enzo, just thought now he's had a taste of regular football at a big club, he might be eager to move-on if he's not likely to get game time here next season. If that happens, I imagine we'd try put in a buy-back or future sell-on clause.

[PaulWinch again]

Based on what they've done in their careers so far, who is giving us nearly £15m for Louie Barry and why are we only getting £7m for Iling-Junior?

Indeed, especially as Louie is off a nasty injury. I wouldn’t be selling Enzo at the moment either.

[fredm]

Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold?  Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde.  I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.

[pauliewalnuts]

Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold?  Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde.  I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.

There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.

I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.

[Ian.]

Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold?  Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde.  I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.

There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.

I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.

Two weeks ago SJM was the best midfielder in the country, today he’s been sold off. It’s getting barmy. I’m quite glad it’s all over for a few weeks.

[paul_e]

What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?

Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)

£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.

Great list. We’d be in a good position if we could somehow add Coutinho and Dendonker to those departures.

I think U’d take Enzo off it though.

I think I'd leave Iling-Jr off as well. He's not been amazing in his loans but has looked competent at Left-back when given the chance and he's got a lot of pace. Maatsen is clearly now first choice and there's a strong chance Digne will be moved on so keep him as cover until January and then reassess. He's exactly the profile we should be looking at for the Carabao and some of the Europa games.

[ChicagoLion]

Based on his performance yesterday, I genuinely hope Maatsen is not first choice left back.

[PaulWinch again]

He had a bad game, he’s had plenty of good ones.

[Gareth]

Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold?  Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde.  I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.

There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.

I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.

Spot on.

[Toronto Villa]

Why do people keep saying Illing, Enzo etc should be sold?  Why don't we give them a chance to come good in our team? People haven't mentioned Bogarde.  I think he should be given a chance as he showed earlier in the season that he has talent, particularly in midfield which was where he initially made a name for himself not in the back four where he helped out in the injury crisis.

There is a ridiculous "things didn't go well yesterday, therefore everybody is shit, and everybody must be sold" vibe around at the moment.

I'd ignore it till this time next week once people have calmed down.

A number of weeks ago, maybe a few months ago, after some loss, it was established by some we were utter shit and all our players were. This before winning subsequent CL games and going on an amazing run that gave us the chance of getting close to a CL spot. I felt there was some sort of sense of entitlement creeping in. That we deserve to there and anything less is a disaster and the sky was falling in. It’s ok to be annoyed, upset or angry. But some of the shit is so disproportionate. We’ve fallen short on some key objectives. But we still had a very good season. It’s amazing how quickly that’s forgotten.

[ChicagoLion]

He had a bad game, he’s had plenty of good ones.

Yes , when he has not needed to defend.
Also, Digne has been our most consistent player this year and has rarely had a bad game.

[eamonn]

Based on what they've done in their careers so far, who is giving us nearly £15m for Louie Barry and why are we only getting £7m for Iling-Junior?

OK, swap the numbers around. I mean I did put question marks around them. Barry becoming a regular Ch'ship scorer, which his move to Hull was going to test before his injury, suggests 10 plus 5 add-ons doesn't feel outlandish. What had Chukwuemeka or Kellyman done to go for £20m ? High potential is priced into these young lads. Iling Jr ended the season at Boro, not starting every game.

[Ian.]

Based on his performance yesterday, I genuinely hope Maatsen is not first choice left back.

He’s been excellent for the last part of the season. He had a bad game. They all did, it didn’t make them shit.

[brontebilly]

What can we reasonably raise from young and fringe players?

Bailey £25m (plus add-ons to £30m at least you'd hope, as if he gets firing, he's an asset to any team)
KK Hayden £5m (? With add-ons to £8m?)
Ned the Serb (£12m pre-agreed with Leipzig, is that right?)
Iling Jr £7m ?
Buendia £20m? From Leverkusen to Leeds, the poor bastard
The Baron £18m (with add-ons to £23m)? Can't see a Spanish side being able to afford more than that
Louie Barry £10m (with add-ons to £15m)

£100m-odd excluding add-ons without any key departures.

Are Leeds really going to give us even half of that for Buendia?  Bailey is interesting, he will have interest but maybe not as many admirers as we think. Dortmund or somewhere maybe. You can throw the Donk and Coutinho into the mix there too, we will be subsiding their next career moves. Is Moreno still ours?

Digne, Mings, Barkley big decisions required - they only have 12 months left on their deals. Mings, depending on fitness, and Barkley might be fine with playing maybe 20+ games with Europe, cups and league next season. Digne will fancy his chances of keeping Maatsen out and is back in France setup. Ideally we keep Digne but finances probably dictate otherwise. I guess if Mings thinks he is capable of playing 30+ games then he and the club have a decision to make. He can't have been happy watching Torres and our defence capitulate at Wembley and again yesterday. Torres is Emerys boy so that's a tough call for all parties. Barkley, not bothered either way really.

[Matt C]

I think we’ll get our money back on Bailey, courtesy of the Saudi pro league. Doubt we’ll be saying the same about Dendonker & Coutinho.