Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[PhilVill]

It sounds like we're just going to have to make do for a season, and perhaps accept that it will come with a dip in the league form. Hopefully we will win the Europa League*.


*We will not win the Europa League.

To be honest, I've been thinking this for some weeks now. All our eggs are going into the Europa basket. Its Champions League next year if you win it and now that Palace are out, we have a realistic chance of winning it. I'm expecting a few more outgoings but not expecting to see any more coming in...

[Concrete Tom]

Has Harvey Elliot gone anywhere yet? I know he's not a left sided midfielder but he can play centrally and might be worth adding, especially if Bailey goes.

Bit of a Buendia clone for me, need someone with some pace and strength IMO

Whenever we are linked with doing business with Liverpool I always think of Baros.

He wasn't a complete disaster in his first season. Dropped off massively in the second when MON didn't fancy him.

[Holy Trinity]

According to tom collomosse we dont spending the money - https://x.com/TomCollomosse/status/1955938378244903314

This is total horse shit

[Beard82]

I would expect the truth to be somewhere inbetween.  How does it work with this wages Ratio - do sales player sales offset it?  Im assuming not? 

[Beard82]

They really need to sort this Man City stuff out - as with it rumbling away whilst were effectively being forced to weaken our squad isnt a good look.  I really wouldnt be suprised if a Villa, Newcastle or Forest end up taking the whole FFP to the courts to knock down the whole house of cards.

[Holy Trinity]

I would expect the truth to be somewhere inbetween.  How does it work with this wages Ratio - do sales player sales offset it?  Im assuming not? 

Im not 100% on how UEFA work but we have a massive wage credit from our A squad last season, Guessand & Bizot fees are close to covered but the loan fees for Rashford and Asencio. We probably would have around 20-30 million amortized if we sell Ramsey for 40 million after taking these two into account.
That would leave us around 20 million to split between a signing and a loan or two loans etc and still be under budget.

Thats how its been explained to me, yes we have to sell an A list player but we can reinvest. 

[PaulWinch again]

They really need to sort this Man City stuff out - as with it rumbling away whilst were effectively being forced to weaken our squad isnt a good look.  I really wouldnt be suprised if a Villa, Newcastle or Forest end up taking the whole FFP to the courts to knock down the whole house of cards.

Let’s not mix it up though - doesn’t seem like we’re really that constrained by the PL PSR stuff right now. It’s the UEFA requirements hindering us.

As it happens I’m highly doubtful we won’t bring at least a couple in if JJ (and Bailey) go.

[kippaxvilla2]

HT has made me feel better.

[cdbearsfan]

I would expect the truth to be somewhere inbetween.  How does it work with this wages Ratio - do sales player sales offset it?  Im assuming not? 

Im not 100% on how UEFA work but we have a massive wage credit from our A squad last season, Guessand & Bizot fees are close to covered but the loan fees for Rashford and Asencio. We probably would have around 20-30 million amortized if we sell Ramsey for 40 million after taking these two into account.
That would leave us around 20 million to split between a signing and a loan or two loans etc and still be under budget.

Thats how its been explained to me, yes we have to sell an A list player but we can reinvest.

I hear talk about us amortising fees. We spent £50 million on Onana last summer and £60 million on Diaby the year before. Surely if we are spreading fees out, we are still paying them, along with all our other recentish transfers, too?

I would like someone to explain it for me in Excel format, if it's not too much trouble. Not Google Sheets, I'm not a savage.

[Holy Trinity]

I think they Diaby sale covered his remaining amortization and left us in profit. Onana costs us 10 million a season for the next 4 years in fees alone but that would already be accounted for. so If we end up with 20 million spare for signings thats 2 50 million players over 5 year contract but that wages have to be taken into account also so more likely 2 30 million players or 1 35 mil plus a loan or two would be my expectation.

[PaulWinch again]

Let’s be clear - we can’t be selling Ramsey and signing no one. That absolutely can’t happen.

[London Villan]

Let’s be clear - we can’t be selling Ramsey and signing no one. That absolutely can’t happen.

No chance - him (and maybe bailey going too) gives us scope within the UEFA rulings to bring in players - Guessand, Asensio and maybe a couple more.

[ozzjim]

I do wonder if Monchi is briefing press on worst case scenarios to enable us to do business without people taking the piss on fees. It's an old tactic but one we could be legitimately trying.

[tomd2103]

They really need to sort this Man City stuff out - as with it rumbling away whilst were effectively being forced to weaken our squad isnt a good look.  I really wouldnt be suprised if a Villa, Newcastle or Forest end up taking the whole FFP to the courts to knock down the whole house of cards.

Wouldn't get your hopes up about a Man City ruling any time soon to be honest.  They've already kicked the can down the road to October haven't they and I can see that conveniently then becoming after Christmas and then to the end of the season. 

[cdbearsfan]

I think they Diaby sale covered his remaining amortization and left us in profit. Onana costs us 10 million a season for the next 4 years in fees alone but that would already be accounted for. so If we end up with 20 million spare for signings thats 2 50 million players over 5 year contract but that wages have to be taken into account also so more likely 2 30 million players or 1 35 mil plus a loan or two would be my expectation.

Thank you. So we can sign a couple of players?