Is he any good is the question?
After today, he better be fucking better than Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn otherwise what’s the fucking point.
(Sorry about the negativity….I’m mega pissed off).
Is he any good is the question?
After today, he better be fucking better than Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn otherwise what’s the fucking point.
(Sorry about the negativity….I’m mega pissed off).
If he's any good we'll change that
Is he any good is the question?
After today, he better be fucking better than Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn otherwise what’s the fucking point.
(Sorry about the negativity….I’m mega pissed off).
I can rely on you to cheer us up 👍Is he any good is the question?
After today, he better be fucking better than Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn otherwise what’s the fucking point.
(Sorry about the negativity….I’m mega pissed off).
Hello mate, I hope you are ok despite today's wankness.
He's excellent and you'll love him!
If he's any good we'll change that
Oh FFS, TV. What did I say? Why must you do this?
Yeah, but I do. Can't you just take pity on me? I'm having a bad day as it is, what with those Brentford ****** being Brentford ******.
I can rely on you to cheer us up 👍Is he any good is the question?
After today, he better be fucking better than Nakamba, Luiz and McGinn otherwise what’s the fucking point.
(Sorry about the negativity….I’m mega pissed off).
Hello mate, I hope you are ok despite today's wankness.
He's excellent and you'll love him!
Is he big, quick and can pass?
So we're absolutely confident this is a really serious upgrade?
My nan is a serious upgrade on our central midfielders.mine too - and she's been dead a decade.
Mine is catchier.
Mine is catchier.
The Spanish media are claiming he’s changed his mind and agreed to Athletico.
It’s going to be one of those summers of rumours and counter rumours.
That said, Fabrizio isn’t likely to put his name to it unless it’s happening.
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I imagine the Spanish are smarting at the moment with kylian mbappé
The Spanish media are claiming he’s changed his mind and agreed to Atlético
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.An extra few cm can make all the difference.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.An extra few cm can make all the difference.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.An extra few cm can make all the difference.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
I'm 1.93m and I can confirm that an extra 3 inches does indeed make a difference.
In which direction?
In which direction?
The cock direction.
Romano has built his entire rep on being right on these things - so hopefully he’s right (assuming Kamara is good).
In which direction?
The cock direction.
Towards Manchester?
Also, at the risk of going Full Brexit, if you're going to list players' heights, do it in units people understand, eh?
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.An extra few cm can make all the difference.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
Fans responding to the rumoured signing of Boubacar Kamara by saying he's too small. Jesus - when are they going to give it a rest.An extra few cm can make all the difference.
Kamara 1.84m
Kalvin Philips 1.78m
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m
Declan Rice 1.85m
Yves Bissouma 1.82m
Ndidi 1.81m
As requested
Kamara 1.84m 6' 7/16"
Kalvin Philips 1.78m 5' 10 3/32"
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m 5' 10 7/8"
Declan Rice 1.85m 6' 27/32"
Yves Bissouma 1.82m 5' 11 27/32"
Ndidi 1.81m 5' 11 1/8"
N'Golo Kante 1.68m 5' 6 5/32"
OK but I bet his shoe size is 8 and just think of the advantage if he was 12. Typical Villa always putting the wrong foot forward.
Romano has built his entire rep on being right on these things - so hopefully he’s right (assuming Kamara is good).
Wasn’t it him that said he was joining A. Madrid last week?
As requested
Kamara 1.84m 6' 7/16"
Kalvin Philips 1.78m 5' 10 3/32"
Cheick Doucoure 1.80m 5' 10 7/8"
Declan Rice 1.85m 6' 27/32"
Yves Bissouma 1.82m 5' 11 27/32"
Ndidi 1.81m 5' 11 1/8"
N'Golo Kante 1.68m 5' 6 5/32"
Yes, it's all well and good banging on about height, but what about girth? There must be girth.
Has anyone actually seen him play??
Yes, it's all well and good banging on about height, but what about girth? There must be girth.
A question probably best directed towards thick_mike.
Is it greedy to ask for another one of these types of players? Assuming this guy is indeed, incoming? I'd like Ndidi or Bissouma too.
Has anyone actually seen him play??
Watched him yesterday against Strasbourg on BT Sport. Marseilles won 4-0 and pipped Monaco for the CL slot. He looked pretty decent.
Him and Coutinho have cost less in transfer fees than Ross McCormack and Aaron Tshibola.I was having a reasonable morning till you mentioned the gateman😩 Anyway well done Villa management.
Just waiting for some salty tears from Athletico Madrid now.
Fantastic news. Now Suarez on a free and we’ve been very very smart with under £20 million!
Have no idea whether to be really pleased or utterly non-plussed, given how little I know, but let's hope he breaks the mold of previous signings from France. From Gerrard's comments he is in the 'promising young player', rather than 'established top quality' bracket of player. Nowt wrong with that, but I hope the latter is coming at some point too, as we can't risk having another season like the one just gone.
Have no idea whether to be really pleased or utterly non-plussed, given how little I know, but let's hope he breaks the mold of previous signings from France. From Gerrard's comments he is in the 'promising young player', rather than 'established top quality' bracket of player. Nowt wrong with that, but I hope the latter is coming at some point too, as we can't risk having another season like the one just gone.
He's played 40+ matches the last two seasons though, so I think he's more Ramsey than Chukwuemeka in terms of development.
To the tune of Jesus Christ Superstar...
"Boubacar Kamara, came to the Villa on a free transfer. He's intense, and immense, blocks all the holes in our shit defence."
Excellent. Was thinking that actually - in terms of signings that you'd imagine would be pretty realistic/plausible, the free transfers of Chambers, Tarkowski, Kamara, and Suarez (or Lewandowski ...) would reinforce the entire spine of the side without hitting the transfer budget at all. Then Bissouma, you'd imagine, would be available fairly cheaply, and could be mostly paid for with the money you'd get from selling Marv.Just waiting for some salty tears from Athletico Madrid now.
Fantastic news. Now Suarez on a free and we’ve been very very smart with under £20 million!
We're after Tarkowski on a free as well apparently.
There are some extremely upset Man U fans on Twitter this morning, pissed off that we've landed Kamara.
Just waiting for some salty tears from Athletico Madrid now.
Fantastic news. Now Suarez on a free and we’ve been very very smart with under £20 million!
We're after Tarkowski on a free as well apparently.
There are some extremely upset Man U fans on Twitter this morning, pissed off that we've landed Kamara.
Excellent news. Another signing that the manager's name will have attracted I reckon, the challenge now is to organise them into a successful team, as that pull won't last forever.
Although from the highlights, he gets the initial tackle in, but then needs to have good players around him to pick up the ball he has made loose and play it away. That is the bit he will quickly realise he doesn't have anymore.
Well done Villa. Arsenal fans are fuming!
To the tune of Jesus Christ Superstar...
"Boubacar Kamara, came to the Villa on a free transfer. He's intense, and immense, blocks all the holes in our shit defence."
Great signing for the Football Club but I thought the same about Leon Bailey at the time, we have a terrible habit of turning excellent footballers into poor ones.
Gerrard can clearly attract a good calibre of player. Kamara,Chambers and Coutinho for 17m sounds superb really , let's hope he can attract a world class striker as we would have won the last 3 games if we could put the ball in the net
Hopefully Digne seems to have broken the curse of the French Villa player, so from now we'll just have an uninterrupted stream of Gallic success!
Good stuff, do the business early, try and clear the deadwood and get an excellent pre season done with plans and formations worked on so we hit the ground running. A great signing for the club.
Tarkowski would be an excellent signing. I really rate him.However signing players from relegated teams usually doesn't workout too well. He has been playing in a struggling team for few years now so a losing mentality will be an issue.
Tarkowski would be an excellent signing. I really rate him.However signing players from relegated teams usually doesn't workout too well. He has been playing in a struggling team for few years now so a losing mentality will be an issue.
Tarkowski would be an excellent signing. I really rate him.However signing players from relegated teams usually doesn't workout too well. He has been playing in a struggling team for few years now so a losing mentality will be an issue.
Nice effort Mr. Taupin but in reality it will be :France Gall, Babacar could become Boubacar...
Boubacar My Lord Kamara
Boubacar My Lord Kamara
Boubacar My Lord Kamara
Oh Lord Kamara
Tarkowski would be an excellent signing. I really rate him.However signing players from relegated teams usually doesn't workout too well. He has been playing in a struggling team for few years now so a losing mentality will be an issue.
He's 29 and this is his first relegation. Burnley also finished 7th and 10th in recent years so it hasn't all been struggle.
Tarkowski is a right-footer. Which seems odd with Chambers and Konsa already here.
Tarkowski is a right-footer. Which seems odd with Chambers and Konsa already here.
His name is heartbreakingly close to scanning with the chorus of Babooshka by Kate Bush.Nice effort Mr. Taupin but in reality it will be :France Gall, Babacar could become Boubacar...
Boubacar My Lord Kamara
Boubacar My Lord Kamara
Boubacar My Lord Kamara
Oh Lord Kamara
Just waiting for some salty tears from Athletico Madrid now.
Fantastic news. Now Suarez on a free and we’ve been very very smart with under £20 million!
We're after Tarkowski on a free as well apparently.
There are some extremely upset Man U fans on Twitter this morning, pissed off that we've landed Kamara.
Well done Villa. Arsenal fans are fuming!
Apparently* Atleti, Man U & Arsenal had all agreed terms at various points and believed they'd sealed the deal so no wonder their fans are pissed off and Johan Lange has earned his new nickname:African Boubacar Transfer Reverser
Apparently* Atleti, Man U & Arsenal had all agreed terms at various points and believed they'd sealed the deal so no wonder their fans are pissed off and Johan Lange has earned his new nickname:African Boubacar Transfer Reverser
Surely justAfrican Boubacar Reverser
Good analysis on his position by Statman Dave
Good analysis on his position by Statman Dave
Saw some of that earlier, very encouraging. Could also be cover at CB or for Cash if need be.
I haven't read the whole thread, so this may have been answered, but did Sanson and Kamara play together in the same team at Marseille?Yes
I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
It’s the Villa way. Cue an announcement any minute that his wife/girlfriend wants to move to Bordeaux instead.
I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
It’s the Villa way. Cue an announcement any minute that his wife/girlfriend wants to move to Bordeaux instead.
Bordeauxly Green.
I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
It’s the Villa way. Cue an announcement any minute that his wife/girlfriend wants to move to Bordeaux instead.
Bordeauxly Green.
Tarkowski is a right-footer. Which seems odd with Chambers and Konsa already here.
Good analysis on his position by Statman Dave
Presumably he played with Sanson at OM?
Excellent news. Another signing that the manager's name will have attracted I reckon,
Presumably he played with Sanson at OM?
Sanson must have had great things to say about how generous Villa are financially but that the manager has his favourites of which Kamara presumably will be one.
If I read right that Marseille clinched Champs League qualification on the last day, it's even more impressive that we landed him (added to the reports that he turned-down Atleti). I assume there must be a low-ish release clause in case we keep pissing around in mid-table and we must have thrown a chunky signing-on fee at him too to seal the deal. Whatever the details, he'll get a full pre-season to get ready. Just please be a reliable lynchpin and help us win the FA Cup, for the love of God, it's all we ask.
I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
Petty Heath.I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
It’s the Villa way. Cue an announcement any minute that his wife/girlfriend wants to move to Bordeaux instead.
Bordeauxly Green.
Petite Heath.
Welcome Boubacar. Now you are a player for the greatest football club in the world.I'm still nervous that it could fall through....
Now stretching the shirt at BMH so all is good. https://twitter.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1528728277350813699
Lots of mention of tactical intelligence. Would that make him the first player at Villa to have any kind of tactical intelligence since ... I dunno, Petrov? Footballing brains have been sorely lacking in recent years.Footballing brains? With Micah Richards, Gabby, and more recently Joe we've probably been in negative equity for any kind of intelligence for a while
I haven't read the whole thread, so this may have been answered, but did Sanson and Kamara play together in the same team at Marseille?Yes
I think he but the call in to Kamara to say how comfortable the bench is at Villa Park
Can anyone provide any insight on his leadership qualities?
It feels like we've been missing that aspect in the midfield for quite some time.
Can anyone provide any insight on his leadership qualities?
It feels like we've been missing that aspect in the midfield for quite some time.
No, but at 22 I wouldn’t expect him to start bossing people around.
Tarkowski would be an excellent signing. I really rate him.However signing players from relegated teams usually doesn't workout too well. He has been playing in a struggling team for few years now so a losing mentality will be an issue.
He has leadership qualities. He has often captained Marseille. Marseille is probably the team that get most pressure from their fans in France.
Can’t say I’ve heard of him but glad Gerrard has identified an area we’ve needed upgrading for a long time. We do get bullied in midfield at times and I’d like to see another central midfielder come in who can play but is also physically able to look after himself.
Big summer ahead but I really think we are a few players away from a very decent team/squad.
Can’t say I’ve heard of him but glad Gerrard has identified an area we’ve needed upgrading for a long time. We do get bullied in midfield at times and I’d like to see another central midfielder come in who can play but is also physically able to look after himself.
Big summer ahead but I really think we are a few players away from a very decent team/squad.
I think of the current squad, only Martinez, Cash, Digne, Buendia, Coutinho, and now Kamara are capable of being virtual match-day shoe ins for a team trying to qualify for Europe. Everyone else in the squad to me screams 'mid table' (including younger players like Ramsey, Carney, Tim, Cameron etc who may go on to become stars but right now are still developing and need more time).
I'd hope we will at a minimum, add two additional Kamara like signings, one at CB (one of Mings, Konza, Chambers, Hause can compete for the other spot), and a striker. That would give us a fighting chance next year of starting to compete for a top 8 spot.
I think of the current squad, only Martinez, Cash, Digne, Buendia, Coutinho, and now Kamara are capable of being virtual match-day shoe ins for a team trying to qualify for Europe. Everyone else in the squad to me screams 'mid table' (including younger players like Ramsey, Carney, Tim, Cameron etc who may go on to become stars but right now are still developing and need more time).
I'd hope we will at a minimum, add two additional Kamara like signings, one at CB (one of Mings, Konza, Chambers, Hause can compete for the other spot), and a striker. That would give us a fighting chance next year of starting to compete for a top 8 spot.
Lots of positive comments, just like when Trezeguet signed.:-) - To be fair his goals kept us in the PL the first year back
Let's hope Kamara keeps us in the PL too :)Lots of positive comments, just like when Trezeguet signed.:-) - To be fair his goals kept us in the PL the first year back
Lots of positive comments, just like when Trezeguet signed.
well they should have been :)Lots of positive comments, just like when Trezeguet signed.
I don't recall the comments from fans of Man U, Atleti, etc moaning about missing out on trez though.
Never heard of him. Is the bloke world class?
You can say that again.😂
I doubt if many on here know how good he is, including myself. He's obviously been good at Marseille, but our track record of signing players from Ligue 1 hasn't been great. Let's hope we buck that trend.so not doing the business early would mean other potential rivals could do the business before us.
I don't know if doing our business early is good either. It should be, but our signings and our timing didn't really help us for this season.
In short, I'm not going to go overboard on any new signings for a while, although by rights, Kamara should be a very good addition. The proof of the pudding...
Never heard of him. Is the bloke world class?
Just had a text from a French dude I worked with. He’s a Marseille fan. Said Kamara is very good. That’s about all I know.
Just had a text from a French dude I worked with. He’s a Marseille fan. Said Kamara is very good. That’s about all I know.
What did he say when we bought Sanson?
https://youtu.be/iFVwoetRvh0Pretty reassuring.
Marseille fans aren't best pleased. They think he's a greedy little bastard. He's basically their version of Joe.
They also think coming to us is a step down, the cheeky twats.
He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
The flip side of that is we got a big fat cheque to ease the pain, marseille gets diddly squat.He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
Good players leaving is always a pisser but iIt's not quite the same though in that he hadn't signed a new contract and so his departure shouldn't really be a shock to them. Greasy pissed off a year after signing a new one with us and giving it the whole "my club, my city" bollocks.
The irony of a Newcastle journalist accusing a player of snubbing the barcodes to join another club for money....
https://twitter.com/caseysean51/status/1528678794030096384?t=_kjCb_7tioNL-isKPZSM7g&s=19
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
In other words, when we're the beneficiaries you couldn't give a shit! :)
He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.More than that though. We know Jack moved for trophies as well as money and whatever people think if him signing the contract, it made us £100m.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
You'd have preferred he left for free so long as he hadn't hurt your feeling by saying 'my club'?He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
Good players leaving is always a pisser but iIt's not quite the same though in that he hadn't signed a new contract and so his departure shouldn't really be a shock to them. Greasy pissed off a year after signing a new one with us and giving it the whole "my club, my city" bollocks.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
In other words, when we're the beneficiaries you couldn't give a shit! :)
You'd have preferred he left for free so long as he hadn't hurt your feeling by saying 'my club'?He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
Good players leaving is always a pisser but iIt's not quite the same though in that he hadn't signed a new contract and so his departure shouldn't really be a shock to them. Greasy pissed off a year after signing a new one with us and giving it the whole "my club, my city" bollocks.
The irony of a Newcastle journalist accusing a player of snubbing the barcodes to join another club for money....
https://twitter.com/caseysean51/status/1528678794030096384?t=_kjCb_7tioNL-isKPZSM7g&s=19
They are already starting to piss me off with their project. It didnt 't take long before they became deluded
The irony of a Newcastle journalist accusing a player of snubbing the barcodes to join another club for money....
https://twitter.com/caseysean51/status/1528678794030096384?t=_kjCb_7tioNL-isKPZSM7g&s=19
They are already starting to piss me off with their project. It didnt 't take long before they became deluded
You'd have preferred he left for free so long as he hadn't hurt your feeling by saying 'my club'?He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
Good players leaving is always a pisser but iIt's not quite the same though in that he hadn't signed a new contract and so his departure shouldn't really be a shock to them. Greasy pissed off a year after signing a new one with us and giving it the whole "my club, my city" bollocks.
I'm glad he's gone, the horrible, pissed up chav. I wouldn't have him back on a free.
You'd have preferred he left for free so long as he hadn't hurt your feeling by saying 'my club'?He's been there since he was a young lad (5 it maybe 7?, checked, it's 5) so I guess it will feel like that to them. I understand and empathise given what one of ours did.
I suspect Marseille couldn't offer what we and various other Premier League or La Liga teams did. Plus, let's face it, he's now in the biggest and best league in the world.
Good players leaving is always a pisser but iIt's not quite the same though in that he hadn't signed a new contract and so his departure shouldn't really be a shock to them. Greasy pissed off a year after signing a new one with us and giving it the whole "my club, my city" bollocks.
I'm glad he's gone, the horrible, pissed up chav. I wouldn't have him back on a free.
Me either. Anyway, let's not sully this thread.
I'm loving the business we're doing. Gerrard is obviously doing well along with Lange and Purslow.
The irony of a Newcastle journalist accusing a player of snubbing the barcodes to join another club for money....
https://twitter.com/caseysean51/status/1528678794030096384?t=_kjCb_7tioNL-isKPZSM7g&s=19
They are already starting to piss me off with their project. It didnt 't take long before they became deluded
When citeh decide to offload grealish guess who will be first in there waving their saudi cheque book.
The irony of a Newcastle journalist accusing a player of snubbing the barcodes to join another club for money....
https://twitter.com/caseysean51/status/1528678794030096384?t=_kjCb_7tioNL-isKPZSM7g&s=19
They are already starting to piss me off with their project. It didnt 't take long before they became deluded
When citeh decide to offload grealish guess who will be first in there waving their saudi cheque book.
I could definitely see that happening.
Just to point out the obvious to the Geordies, but why do they think Bruno Guimaraes decided to leave Lyon (who were playing European football at the time) to join a relegation threatened Newcastle?
The irony of a Newcastle journalist accusing a player of snubbing the barcodes to join another club for money....
https://twitter.com/caseysean51/status/1528678794030096384?t=_kjCb_7tioNL-isKPZSM7g&s=19
They are already starting to piss me off with their project. It didnt 't take long before they became deluded
When citeh decide to offload grealish guess who will be first in there waving their saudi cheque book.
I could definitely see that happening.
Just to point out the obvious to the Geordies, but why do they think Bruno Guimaraes decided to leave Lyon (who were playing European football at the time) to join a relegation threatened Newcastle?
Big fan of Stotty cakes - much better than the gastronomy of Lyon.
No, but at 22 I wouldn’t expect him to start bossing people around.
Resisting the obvious Grace Bros / Marseille parallel, I like him!
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
I want a whole team of Number 10s.
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
Given my initials are DM I find it very strange indeed!
I thought you'd actually translated it there Lou, and was wondering what on earth he was on about! :)
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
Sorry about this john, but neither of those two are out and out defensive mids.
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
Sorry about this john, but neither of those two are out and out defensive mids.
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
Sorry about this john, but neither of those two are out and out defensive mids.
I think the most impressive pairing I've seen this season was Soucek and Rice at West Ham, an absolute rock of a midfield.
If anyone has seen the Gerrard interview from earlier may reas in to like I dud they he'll play Kamara first and foremost as an 8 and sign another DM with Kamara filling in for said DM if needed.
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
Sorry about this john, but neither of those two are out and out defensive mids.
I think the most impressive pairing I've seen this season was Soucek and Rice at West Ham, an absolute rock of a midfield.
They're like a couple of nightclub bouncers that will not tolerate any fucking about whatsoever.
If anyone has seen the Gerrard interview from earlier may reas in to like I dud they he'll play Kamara first and foremost as an 8 and sign another DM with Kamara filling in for said DM if needed.
I didn't take it like that, for me he was talking about the benefit of signing someone like this is that he has the football intelligence to play CB, DM or CM as well as working in different formations. That said I do think another similar player who can play a few different roles would be a good idea.
I'd love a centre mid of Kamara and Bissouma. If we swapped Luiz + £££ for Abraham we'd be in for a serious season.
Some people on here won’t be happy until we Have a complete team of defensive mids and Tony Pulis as manager
Sorry about this john, but neither of those two are out and out defensive mids.
I think the most impressive pairing I've seen this season was Soucek and Rice at West Ham, an absolute rock of a midfield.
They're like a couple of nightclub bouncers that will not tolerate any fucking about whatsoever.
Like Mazrim and Mazrim's Bruv
If anyone has seen the Gerrard interview from earlier may reas in to like I dud they he'll play Kamara first and foremost as an 8 and sign another DM with Kamara filling in for said DM if needed.
I didn't take it like that, for me he was talking about the benefit of signing someone like this is that he has the football intelligence to play CB, DM or CM as well as working in different formations. That said I do think another similar player who can play a few different roles would be a good idea.
The more I look into him the more I want it to be Sangare, he looks a fantastic player to go along the midfielders we have.
If anyone has seen the Gerrard interview from earlier may reas in to like I dud they he'll play Kamara first and foremost as an 8 and sign another DM with Kamara filling in for said DM if needed.
I didn't take it like that, for me he was talking about the benefit of signing someone like this is that he has the football intelligence to play CB, DM or CM as well as working in different formations. That said I do think another similar player who can play a few different roles would be a good idea.
The more I look into him the more I want it to be Sangare, he looks a fantastic player to go along the midfielders we have.
It was the part where he said "we've brought him in as a midfielder" not DCM just midfielder. That's how I read it.
If he's anything like Kante, it would be like playing with 12 players.Bloody hell, if he’s ANYTHING like Kante we’ll be very fortunate to have him
The thing is with your DMs, you want them to be much more complete footballers, like the oft-mentioned Rice and Soucek at West Ham. They both protect the back line superbly, but are also comfortable in possession and are good at driving forward, plus Soucek weighs in with goals too. A player like Nakamba who does a good job at breaking up attacks but little else will only get you so far, especially when your other midfielders include Luiz and McGinn.
I'm pretty sure he's been signed as a DM but Gerrard is just talking up his versatility. If we want to play a double pivot I think Dougie can probably do that when he's not having to shoulder all the defensive responsibility.TBH, Tim and Boubou together would make a fine pairing.
The thing is with your DMs, you want them to be much more complete footballers, like the oft-mentioned Rice and Soucek at West Ham. They both protect the back line superbly, but are also comfortable in possession and are good at driving forward, plus Soucek weighs in with goals too. A player like Nakamba who does a good job at breaking up attacks but little else will only get you so far, especially when your other midfielders include Luiz and McGinn.
He's our modern day NRC, minus the huddles and pointing.
The thing is with your DMs, you want them to be much more complete footballers, like the oft-mentioned Rice and Soucek at West Ham. They both protect the back line superbly, but are also comfortable in possession and are good at driving forward, plus Soucek weighs in with goals too. A player like Nakamba who does a good job at breaking up attacks but little else will only get you so far, especially when your other midfielders include Luiz and McGinn.
He's our modern day NRC, minus the huddles and pointing.
Reo-Coker really was absolutely shit.
I thought it at the time and I still think it now.
Dog shit.
I’ve decided all you DMO’s (defensive midfielder obsessives) don’t know what your talking about
You can’t even make your mind up about what one actually is
And you’ve all been talking complete bollocks for the last 3 seasons and more. 😊
Reo-Coker really was absolutely shit.
I thought it at the time and I still think it now.
Dog shit.
Reo-Coker really was absolutely shit.
I thought it at the time and I still think it now.
Dog shit.
By christ he was shit. If he had the ball and tried to run with it, off he'd go in a straight line, head down, eyes fixed on the ball until he ran into an opponent.
And then there was this:
Which game was it when Reo-Coker somehow went through on goal with only the keeper to beat (obviously fucked it up) and it seemed like half the ground was laughing even before he got his shot off? Unless I've dreamt it?
Which game was it when Reo-Coker somehow went through on goal with only the keeper to beat (obviously fucked it up) and it seemed like half the ground was laughing even before he got his shot off? Unless I've dreamt it?
Was that the 0-0 at home to Chelsea in 10/11 season?
First time I ever heard the word "contretemps" used by a football manager. Didn't they fall out because O'neil expressed similar sentiments to Paulie, and basically told Nige he was shit?It doesn't reflect well on the manager who bought NRC. Sounds like they didn't do due diligence and watch him play, scope him out. And of course the manager who bought NRC was... Martin O'Neill.
First time I ever heard the word "contretemps" used by a football manager.
Philippe Auclair described it as a “stunning coup for Villa”. Talked about him being one of the future stars of French football.
I listened to that too. Auclair is a journo I've got a lot of time for so I'm pretty excited by thisPhilippe Auclair described it as a “stunning coup for Villa”. Talked about him being one of the future stars of French football.
I heard him say this as well. Definitely seemed surprised we'd pulled this off and made me optimistic.
At the time the three central midfielders that most teams seemed to be sniffing round were Reo Coker, Barton and Parker. Trust us to get the one who couldn't play football.
At the time the three central midfielders that most teams seemed to be sniffing round were Reo Coker, Barton and Parker. Trust us to get the one who couldn't play football.
Well we dodged a bullet with Barton.
He missed an absolute sitter at the Sty from about 4 yards. Which made it better when Gabby nodded in the winner in the last 3 minutes. Liiiiiimbs
He missed an absolute sitter at the Sty from about 4 yards. Which made it better when Gabby nodded in the winner in the last 3 minutes. Liiiiiimbs
He missed an absolute sitter at the Sty from about 4 yards. Which made it better when Gabby nodded in the winner in the last 3 minutes. Liiiiiimbs
Limbs indeed.
He missed an absolute sitter at the Sty from about 4 yards. Which made it better when Gabby nodded in the winner in the last 3 minutes. Liiiiiimbs
Limbs indeed.
Less of the 'limbs' please. From there 'tis but a short step to 'banter', and then where would we all be?
He missed an absolute sitter at the Sty from about 4 yards. Which made it better when Gabby nodded in the winner in the last 3 minutes. Liiiiiimbs
Limbs indeed.
Less of the 'limbs' please. From there 'tis but a short step to 'banter', and then where would we all be?
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
No, it was HRH. Not William, some bloke called Harry Ross Hughes.
Wolves fan who writes anti-Villa songs and generally just tries to wind our fans up on Twitter.Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
No, it was HRH. Not William, some bloke called Harry Ross Hughes.
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
No, it was HRH. Not William, some bloke called Harry Ross Hughes.
Mervyn King and quick word...No. Mervyn+Quick = DeficitSome twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
I'm sure if Mervyn King has a quick word that'll go nowhere.
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
No, it was HRH. Not William, some bloke called Harry Ross Hughes.
He’s always on the wind up, but he’s also not nasty and doesn’t take himself seriously at all. He’s alright really.
When we was pretty much safe and had just as much chance of catching Wolves as getting relegated (very slim) he was carrying on the wind up with his relegation watch, he was quite funny. He went right on to it was mathematically impossible. It was quite entertaining. Decent banter and all just a bit of fun. I think he’s just cottoned onto this sudden rivalry from the Wolves fans towards us but being funny with it.
He always looks to me like his hard drive needs investigation.
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
He started off as a complete twat with his songs, but now his posts are pretty amusing. He tagged Rishi Sunak in his latest one about our accounts!Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
No, it was HRH. Not William, some bloke called Harry Ross Hughes.
He’s always on the wind up, but he’s also not nasty and doesn’t take himself seriously at all. He’s alright really.
Was just about to say that. I actually think he's really funny, and a nice lad.
Some twat on Twitter has questioned our spending and tagged the Bank of England in his tweet, like you do.
Bristol City fan by any chance?
No, it was HRH. Not William, some bloke called Harry Ross Hughes.
He’s always on the wind up, but he’s also not nasty and doesn’t take himself seriously at all. He’s alright really.
Was just about to say that. I actually think he's really funny, and a nice lad.
Just came on.
Just came on.Have you been hibernating?
Just came on.Have you been hibernating?
Just came on.Have you been hibernating?
I meant that Dogtanian has not posted for a couple of years.
I meant that Dogtanian has not posted for a couple of years.
D'oh...thought I'd joked well.
You dumas.
I meant that Dogtanian has not posted for a couple of years.
D'oh...thought I'd joked well.
You dumas.
A message to YouTube video compilation creators of the world: we don't need your musical accompaniment. Many thanks.
Have to say I've never seen Nakamba makes passes like those highlighted in the clip above. Looks the real deal.Looks like a grown up Bellingham.
https://twitter.com/daniel_flkv/status/1535382257502134272? Highlights from yesterdays game
He reminds me a bit of Delph, we always looked pretty solid in central midfield when he was in there. It was just a shame that most of the rest of the team was shite at the time.A bit, based on the very limited footage I have seen. Though my take on Delph was that his passing was generally good though sometimes unreliable.
Since Kamara already played at a high level and will be competing for a spot in the French WC squad I hope he adapts to Premier League quickly and settles in for our good and the good of all of France.
Chateauneuf du Pape! Non.Since Kamara already played at a high level and will be competing for a spot in the French WC squad I hope he adapts to Premier League quickly and settles in for our good and the good of all of France.
Are you French, Footy?
I dread to think what that means! ;D
I dread to think what that means! ;D
I dread to think what that means! ;D
I dread to think what that means! ;D
It means, Romans go home!
I dread to think what that means! ;D
It means, Romans go home!
Are you the Judean People's Front?
I dread to think what that means! ;D
It means, Romans go home!
Are you the Judean People's Front?
Nice little montage here of his debut
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1548677209300369408?s=21&t=EE8WFFELEo3N037-fTXjPA
Nice little montage here of his debut
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1548677209300369408?s=21&t=EE8WFFELEo3N037-fTXjPA
Nice little montage here of his debut
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1548677209300369408?s=21&t=EE8WFFELEo3N037-fTXjPA
Nice little montage here of his debut
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1548677209300369408?s=21&t=EE8WFFELEo3N037-fTXjPA
Loved that tackle on James from behind as our CBs backed off.
What I noticed was that he seamlessly slipped into a back four position when we needed it. None of our current midfielders could do that except perhaps Chambers
Some of those first time passes were exquisite. I'm very much looking forward to watching this young man play next season.
Some of those first time passes were exquisite. I'm very much looking forward to watching this young man play next season.
Yes, it was a Twitter highlights reel but it did look very promising indeed.
We need a poll:
- Injured in September, out for season
- Has a great season, bought by oil money next summer
- Has a great season, stays at Villa
Just kidding with the last one.
We need a poll:
- Injured in September, out for season
- Has a great season, bought by oil money next summer
- Has a great season, stays at Villa
Just kidding with the last one.
As I put in the wacky prediction thread, I'd add that he turns into Ashley Westwood by October.
Was it possible to make Mess(e)rs Tonev, Helinius Maximus and that bloke off Neighbours, Brett Holman, look good in a mid-2010's highlights reel?If you were to do a highlights real for these it would need to be of them walking their dogs.
Was it possible to make Mess(e)rs Tonev, Helinius Maximus and that bloke off Neighbours, Brett Holman, look good in a mid-2010's highlights reel?If you were to do a highlights real for these it would need to be of them walking their dogs.
Was it possible to make Mess(e)rs Tonev, Helinius Maximus and that bloke off Neighbours, Brett Holman, look good in a mid-2010's highlights reel?
He goal at Norwich in the league cup i vaguely remember
He goal at Norwich in the league cup i vaguely remember
A right thunder bastard as well.
Are we in danger of an original song? Presume we’ve adapted somebody else’s?
https://twitter.com/BissellJane1/status/1554929586881929218?s=20&t=Dal_XT01ACER9615EPgGAw
Approx words @ https://twitter.com/BissellJane1/status/1554929586881929218?s=20&t=Dal_XT01ACER9615EPgGAw
I’m amused in the thread to read
“ Good, but it's no Bingo the dog (for Diego Carlos)”
Little AV has turned 3 in the close season but will approve highly if she gets to sing
D-I-E-G-O, Diego is his name-o
at her next home game.
Are we in danger of an original song? Presume we’ve adapted somebody else’s?
https://twitter.com/BissellJane1/status/1554929586881929218?s=20&t=Dal_XT01ACER9615EPgGAw
Approx words @ https://twitter.com/BissellJane1/status/1554929586881929218?s=20&t=Dal_XT01ACER9615EPgGAw
I’m amused in the thread to read
“ Good, but it's no Bingo the dog (for Diego Carlos)”
Little AV has turned 3 in the close season but will approve highly if she gets to sing
D-I-E-G-O, Diego is his name-o
at her next home game.
That Kamara one is dreadful, almost as bad as the Coutinho song.
If you’ve watched us since promotion and wondered “what is this team missing?”, it’s this guy. I’ve seen a lot of comments on twitter saying enjoy him while we can, because, sadly, this seems true.
What an absolutely superb signing this kid has been. Proper quality. Best player last week (wasn’t hard mind you), and again outstanding yesterday. Makes the game look very easy. We need to build around him and add real quality if we are to keep him long term.
https://twitter.com/football__tweet/status/1558746555372474369?s=21&t=42pCwptkPyL5AEulDctDLg
Nice to have a player come in and hit the ground running for a change.And he's French too. Novelty!
Nice to have a player come in and hit the ground running for a change.And he's French too. Novelty!
BK can play centre half as well and started his career there
I could see him performing very well next to Mings.
Can step into Midfield and give Douglas Luiz the 6 role
Its not ideal having Luiz there but BK is quality centre back wise as well as a defensive midfielder so surely SG would consider him there. No,?
Real shame we didn't get Kalvin Phillips as that would have been quite something having Kamara and Philips in midfield after our long search for the DM role.
Not feisty enough today Eamonn to have the ref even contemplating reaching for his pocket.
Not feisty enough today Eamonn to have the ref even contemplating reaching for his pocket.
Well, he did get booked.
Not feisty enough today Eamonn to have the ref even contemplating reaching for his pocket.
Well, he did get booked.
It was a good foul to give away though, otherwise they were through.
The best Villa player today.
Shite again for me
Shite again for me
Bloody Hell.
Shite again for me
Bloody Hell.
Incredible opinion.
I think he’s been arguably our best player, and comfortably our best player, in our last two matches.
Which is incredible for a young player joining from the French league.
We got 99 problems but Kamara ain’t one.
I think he’s been arguably our best player, and comfortably our best player, in our last two matches.
Which is incredible for a young player joining from the French league.
We got 99 problems but Kamara ain’t one.
I agree, you can tell he's got class. It just makes it more remarkable that having solved what was supposed to be the key isse we now look worse as a team.
I think he’s been arguably our best player, and comfortably our best player, in our last two matches.
I don't think Gerrard would openly be critical of the owners and directors like Parker has, but you can tell he thinks we need more players. Our net spend absolutely does not match our stated aims.
I don't think Gerrard would openly be critical of the owners and directors like Parker has, but you can tell he thinks we need more players. Our net spend absolutely does not match our stated aims.
That's pretty misleading, especially on a thread dedicated to one of our new signings who would have significantly pushed up that net spend if he hadn't run down his Marseille contract. Gerrard has only lost a promising youngster and the left back he replaced as soon as could, both for decent fees. Otherwise he has everyone from last season to go with the new arrivals. He's not operating on Bournemouth resource levels.
He's been really good, in my opinion. But as others have said, it seems really strange that filling a position that many believed was the missing piece of the jigsaw, has seen team performances go through the floor. Barring the first half yesterday with Douggie, the other two midfielders always seem so far away from him when he gets the ball rather than playing a midfield unit.
Whatever happens, even though it's only been a few games, I think we can file Bouba under "transfer successes". Very comfortable at this level.
Even if you added in a market value for Kamara, it still wouldn't be enough. We're still playing with largely the same midfield we've had for the last 3 seasons, who have proved time and time again that they're not good enough.
"Otherwise he has everyone from last season to go with the new arrivals". That's entirely the problem. Of course the Carlos injury was unlucky, but that squad plus Kamara and a few back ups isn't good enough, even allowing for the fact they should be doing better than they are.
I don't think Gerrard would openly be critical of the owners and directors like Parker has, but you can tell he thinks we need more players. Our net spend absolutely does not match our stated aims.
That's pretty misleading, especially on a thread dedicated to one of our new signings who would have significantly pushed up that net spend if he hadn't run down his Marseille contract. Gerrard has only lost a promising youngster and the left back he replaced as soon as could, both for decent fees. Otherwise he has everyone from last season to go with the new arrivals. He's not operating on Bournemouth resource levels.
Even if you added in a market value for Kamara, it still wouldn't be enough. We're still playing with largely the same midfield we've had for the last 3 seasons, who have proved time and time again that they're not good enough.
"Otherwise he has everyone from last season to go with the new arrivals". That's entirely the problem. Of course the Carlos injury was unlucky, but that squad plus Kamara and a few back ups isn't good enough, even allowing for the fact they should be doing better than they are.
I don't think Gerrard would openly be critical of the owners and directors like Parker has, but you can tell he thinks we need more players. Our net spend absolutely does not match our stated aims.
That's pretty misleading, especially on a thread dedicated to one of our new signings who would have significantly pushed up that net spend if he hadn't run down his Marseille contract. Gerrard has only lost a promising youngster and the left back he replaced as soon as could, both for decent fees. Otherwise he has everyone from last season to go with the new arrivals. He's not operating on Bournemouth resource levels.
Even if you added in a market value for Kamara, it still wouldn't be enough. We're still playing with largely the same midfield we've had for the last 3 seasons, who have proved time and time again that they're not good enough.
"Otherwise he has everyone from last season to go with the new arrivals". That's entirely the problem. Of course the Carlos injury was unlucky, but that squad plus Kamara and a few back ups isn't good enough, even allowing for the fact they should be doing better than they are.
The actual or net spend is just a pointer that the squad isn't good enough and not enough has been done to improve it. Kamara can't do everything by himself, we need a proper number 8 and a forward who isn't shit. People are mentioning the fact that we've fallen massively behind Arsenal. Well part of the reason for that is that they've bought in players including Ramsdale, White, Odegaard, Zinchenko and Jesus. Big improvements in all areas of the pitch.
The actual or net spend is just a pointer that the squad isn't good enough and not enough has been done to improve it. Kamara can't do everything by himself, we need a proper number 8 and a forward who isn't shit. People are mentioning the fact that we've fallen massively behind Arsenal. Well part of the reason for that is that they've bought in players including Ramsdale, White, Odegaard, Zinchenko and Jesus. Big improvements in all areas of the pitch.
but it isn't a good pointer and right now is incredibly misleading. In the last year and a bit we've made the best part of £150m from sales and yet only 1 player from that would come back in and improve our first 11, that makes our net spend a really poor indicator of the relative strength of our squad now compared to the end of the 20/21 season. In my opinion we're massively improved from then but poor tactics and poor man management mean that we're seeing the squad at it's worst not it's best right now.
I think you're overly harsh on our forwards, neither are top 4 standard but both are capable of 10-15 goals and that's enough to be far better than we are. I agree we could do with another midfielder but signing one is almost pointless if we're going to carry on conceding the midfield as we have so far this season, we're not being out battled in there, we're choosing to abandon it and play 2 wide midfielders and DM that's almost a 3rd centre back.
Kamara will be like prime Kante for three games then Ashley Westwood after that.
The actual or net spend is just a pointer that the squad isn't good enough and not enough has been done to improve it. Kamara can't do everything by himself, we need a proper number 8 and a forward who isn't shit. People are mentioning the fact that we've fallen massively behind Arsenal. Well part of the reason for that is that they've bought in players including Ramsdale, White, Odegaard, Zinchenko and Jesus. Big improvements in all areas of the pitch.
but it isn't a good pointer and right now is incredibly misleading. In the last year and a bit we've made the best part of £150m from sales and yet only 1 player from that would come back in and improve our first 11, that makes our net spend a really poor indicator of the relative strength of our squad now compared to the end of the 20/21 season. In my opinion we're massively improved from then but poor tactics and poor man management mean that we're seeing the squad at it's worst not it's best right now.
I think you're overly harsh on our forwards, neither are top 4 standard but both are capable of 10-15 goals and that's enough to be far better than we are. I agree we could do with another midfielder but signing one is almost pointless if we're going to carry on conceding the midfield as we have so far this season, we're not being out battled in there, we're choosing to abandon it and play 2 wide midfielders and DM that's almost a 3rd centre back.
The squad might be stronger, but these were the players who played the majority of the season in 20/21 (Number of games in brackets):
Martinez
Cash (28) Konsa (35) Mings (36) Targett (38)
Luiz (32) McGinn (37)
Traore (29)/El Ghazi (17) Barkley (18) Grealish (24)
Watkins (37)
So all we've really done in two years is swapped Targett for Digne, Traore/ElGhazi for Buendia/Bailey, and Grealish for Coutinho. The squad is stronger overall, as we're not having to use the likes of Trez from the bench, but the end result is we just haven't upgraded a first team that has finished 11th and 14th nearly enough. Compare the Arsenal team from then to now.
He's been really good, in my opinion. But as others have said, it seems really strange that filling a position that many believed was the missing piece of the jigsaw, has seen team performances go through the floor. Barring the first half yesterday with Douggie, the other two midfielders always seem so far away from him when he gets the ball rather than playing a midfield unit.
Whatever happens, even though it's only been a few games, I think we can file Bouba under "transfer successes". Very comfortable at this level.
It's probably because when he looks up to pass, his two colleagues in midfield are behind him to the left and right filling in for Roberto Carlos and Cafu.
He's been really good, in my opinion. But as others have said, it seems really strange that filling a position that many believed was the missing piece of the jigsaw, has seen team performances go through the floor. Barring the first half yesterday with Douggie, the other two midfielders always seem so far away from him when he gets the ball rather than playing a midfield unit.
Whatever happens, even though it's only been a few games, I think we can file Bouba under "transfer successes". Very comfortable at this level.
It's probably because when he looks up to pass, his two colleagues in midfield are behind him to the left and right filling in for Roberto Carlos and Cafu.
This. It is frustrating beyond belief the number of times our midfield players drop into the space between Kamara (or the centre-halves) and the fullbacks, achieving nothing other than slowing our progress because the ball can comforably be passed directly to the fullback that is higher and wider.
Closing a clear passing channel like this would be spotted and corrected by most parks teams, yet it happens with such frequency it is clear (to me) it is coached and part of Gerrard's pattern of play >:(
Kamara has been one of few positives so far this season and looks real quality. UTV
He's been really good, in my opinion. But as others have said, it seems really strange that filling a position that many believed was the missing piece of the jigsaw, has seen team performances go through the floor. Barring the first half yesterday with Douggie, the other two midfielders always seem so far away from him when he gets the ball rather than playing a midfield unit.
Whatever happens, even though it's only been a few games, I think we can file Bouba under "transfer successes". Very comfortable at this level.
Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!
Yep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.
You know it might just work ;)Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!
Yep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.
You know it might just work ;)Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!
Yep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.
Agreed, though when Man City do it they do it quicker, include passes further forward so they can isolate fullbacks 1v1 or they just keep patienty recycling the ball until an opponent is slow to move leaving a gap they can exploit with pace and/or precise passing.You know it might just work ;)Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!
Yep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.
I swear, that endless short passes around the back four, sometimes involving the midfielders, which is basically Man City style 'give it back' build up is genuinely the only single thing I see us do which makes me believe we must do some training.
Of course, Man City do it whilst looking for the ball to someone like KDB to then make something happen. We do it just to lose possession or hoof it up pitch, usually into touch.
You know it might just work ;)Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!
Yep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.
I swear, that endless short passes around the back four, sometimes involving the midfielders, which is basically Man City style 'give it back' build up is genuinely the only single thing I see us do which makes me believe we must do some training.
Of course, Man City do it whilst looking for the ball to someone like KDB to then make something happen. We do it just to lose possession or hoof it up pitch, usually into touch.
I agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.This.
Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.
Exactly this. Any sniff of momentum going forward, that happens, we get closed down and the ball goes back to the CBs to tap around again. A couple of times against westham, we got it to Coutinho in space. He looked up, tried to be busy, saw nothing and passed sideways/backwards, and eventually it was back with Konsa/Chambers.
Our attacking players are hopelessly disjointed. When we have decent possession in the final third they are static or they run into the same space or one runs when the passer is looking to play to feet or they stand still when the passer expects movement.
If someone does drive with the ball or creates an overload we fail to capitalise often enough because the other players are uncertain what kind of delivery or link-up to expect.
I agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.This.
Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.
I agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.
Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.
Illustrates how plain it is for all to see, even Micah Haha. The fact that SG chooses not to see it really points to his stubbornness, and he'll end up moving the deckchairs round the deck while the boat sinks.Exactly this. Any sniff of momentum going forward, that happens, we get closed down and the ball goes back to the CBs to tap around again. A couple of times against westham, we got it to Coutinho in space. He looked up, tried to be busy, saw nothing and passed sideways/backwards, and eventually it was back with Konsa/Chambers.
Our attacking players are hopelessly disjointed. When we have decent possession in the final third they are static or they run into the same space or one runs when the passer is looking to play to feet or they stand still when the passer expects movement.
If someone does drive with the ball or creates an overload we fail to capitalise often enough because the other players are uncertain what kind of delivery or link-up to expect.
This ...I agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.
Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.
... and ...Illustrates how plain it is for all to see, even Micah Haha. The fact that SG chooses not to see it really points to his stubbornness, and he'll end up moving the deckchairs round the deck while the boat sinks.Exactly this. Any sniff of momentum going forward, that happens, we get closed down and the ball goes back to the CBs to tap around again. A couple of times against westham, we got it to Coutinho in space. He looked up, tried to be busy, saw nothing and passed sideways/backwards, and eventually it was back with Konsa/Chambers.
Our attacking players are hopelessly disjointed. When we have decent possession in the final third they are static or they run into the same space or one runs when the passer is looking to play to feet or they stand still when the passer expects movement.
If someone does drive with the ball or creates an overload we fail to capitalise often enough because the other players are uncertain what kind of delivery or link-up to expect.
At Arsenal did anyone else notice how upset he was when he was subbed?
He appeared irritated. No outburst, but irritated.
Must I ?At Arsenal did anyone else notice how upset he was when he was subbed?
He appeared irritated. No outburst, but irritated.
Put this sort of thing on the post-match thread.
Harsh, he's specifically talking about Bouba, and this is a thread about said player.
There's Flintstones and RichieHoltes pissing-off a lot more people with their negative drum-banging than Footy making a new point.
I'd also like to point out that I'm not some new poster, I've been a member for a good number years, never had any issues.
I don't know why my dislike for the owners lying has causes such drama leading to me being targeted
I'd also like to point out that I'm not some new poster, I've been a member for a good number years, never had any issues.
I don't know why my dislike for the owners lying has causes such drama leading to me being targeted
Because:
1. you throw it out on every other thread regardless of what the discussion is.
2. you refuse to accept that they've spent a fortune already and have plans to spend pelnty more on the stadium redevelopment.
3. you've likened them to the trotters and accused them of lying about or ambitions with very little to back up your claims other than 'net spend'.
We get that you feel left down by the owners but you're a stuck record, you even said you were going to stop, before going into overdrive and posting it far more than before.
The owners saved us in 2018 from a fate that doesn't bear thinking about.Blaming the owners is way down the road as far as I am concerned
Even if they go a bit Lerner on us for a few years they rescued us when we were a second tier club that couldn't pay its taxes and could have lost a future £100m for a pittance.
Some very short memories here. Back in the summer of 2018 I would have snapped your hand off if you told me we'd be here on transfer deadline day pissed off that we had just bought a £13m established premier league midfielder!
Out for the season
Out for the season
Just messing around I presume? No one can make that call until he goes for a scan, let's bleeding hope not anyway otherwise it's basically just the same midfield again as for last three seasons and we don't want to think of that too much.
I don’t think saying a player is “ out for the season “ is funny.Out for the season
Just messing around I presume? No one can make that call until he goes for a scan, let's bleeding hope not anyway otherwise it's basically just the same midfield again as for last three seasons and we don't want to think of that too much.
Yes, mate.
Several beers talking 😂
Can I suggest that if you’ve had a few ales you stay off the internet for a bit and refrain from making ridiculous, unfounded posts on here. Thanks.bah humbug :D
Can I suggest that if you’ve had a few ales you stay off the internet for a bit and refrain from making ridiculous, unfounded posts on here. Thanks.
If the injury is that bad our fysios/ medics that was on the pitch to evaluate should have taken him off at once. He did play on for quite a while after he got the injury.
Doesn't sound good. :(On top of everything else what we don’t need is an unlucky manager😉
Whatever your thoughts on Gerrard as a manager you have to admit he's not having much luck on the injury front.
Can I suggest that if you’ve had a few ales you stay off the internet for a bit and refrain from making ridiculous, unfounded posts on here. Thanks.
I don’t think saying a player is “ out for the season “ is funny.Out for the season
Just messing around I presume? No one can make that call until he goes for a scan, let's bleeding hope not anyway otherwise it's basically just the same midfield again as for last three seasons and we don't want to think of that too much.
Yes, mate.
Several beers talking 😂
Unless you have some information to back this up.
Do we actually know he’s our for a lengthy spell or are we just fearing the worse case scenario?
still not funny.Can I suggest that if you’ve had a few ales you stay off the internet for a bit and refrain from making ridiculous, unfounded posts on here. Thanks.I don’t think saying a player is “ out for the season “ is funny.Out for the season
Just messing around I presume? No one can make that call until he goes for a scan, let's bleeding hope not anyway otherwise it's basically just the same midfield again as for last three seasons and we don't want to think of that too much.
Yes, mate.
Several beers talking 😂
Unless you have some information to back this up.
Yet whenever a ‘big poster’ makes a tongue-in-cheek remark, regarding our luck with injuries, it’s greeted with the humour in which it was tended 🤷♂️
Do we actually know he’s our for a lengthy spell or are we just fearing the worse case scenario?
Jesus wept! He said "Out for the season." He hasn't denied the Holocaust or suggested that the Queen protected sex offenders or anything!Did she? bloody hell.
I think everyone had had ale last night.
Andrew?Jesus wept! He said "Out for the season." He hasn't denied the Holocaust or suggested that the Queen protected sex offenders or anything!Did she? bloody hell.
I think everyone had had ale last night.
Andrew?Jesus wept! He said "Out for the season." He hasn't denied the Holocaust or suggested that the Queen protected sex offenders or anything!Did she? bloody hell.
I think everyone had had ale last night.
Back on topic, if Bouba is out, short or long time whatever it may be, and all the promising kids loaned out, does that mean our First XI is exactly the same as last year? Grim sort of way of showing ambition.
Perhaps they are awaiting some additional medical info before confirming what it is or timescales. It’ll be a knee injury of some type as this is what he twisted.
We're basically down to the first time we had last season. Excellent.
still not funny.Can I suggest that if you’ve had a few ales you stay off the internet for a bit and refrain from making ridiculous, unfounded posts on here. Thanks.I don’t think saying a player is “ out for the season “ is funny.Out for the season
Just messing around I presume? No one can make that call until he goes for a scan, let's bleeding hope not anyway otherwise it's basically just the same midfield again as for last three seasons and we don't want to think of that too much.
Yes, mate.
Several beers talking 😂
Unless you have some information to back this up.
Yet whenever a ‘big poster’ makes a tongue-in-cheek remark, regarding our luck with injuries, it’s greeted with the humour in which it was tended 🤷♂️
You posted. Out for the season, no context , not knowing our luck, no emoji’s just a straight Out for the season.
Jesus wept! He said "Out for the season." He hasn't denied the Holocaust or suggested that the Queen protected sex offenders or anything!
I think everyone had had ale last night.
We're basically down to the first time we had last season. Excellent.
We're basically down to the first time we had last season. Excellent.
Dendoncker will start at Leeds.
We're basically down to the first time we had last season. Excellent.
Dendoncker will start at Leeds.
He'll need to look a bit sharper than he did against Southampton. For a defensive midfielder to play nearly 30 mins when we're defending a 1-0 lead and touch the ball 4 times, it's a bit odd.
Does anybody know what the injury is or how bad it actually is? Weird that the club is wishing him a speedy recovery on social media without confirming what is actually wrong with the lad!?
Perhaps they are awaiting some additional medical info before confirming what it is or timescales. It’ll be a knee injury of some type as this is what he twisted.
Hopefully we’ve moved on from the mystery Grealish , will he won’t be rubbish
I'm starting to think this injury shite isn't just bad luck. Nobody can be this unlucky, FFS.
that'll be his world cup over if it's a bad one
Is this another case of a clearly injured player being allowed to continue and likely doing more damage? What the hell are our physios up to?
Until we know what he's actually done it's just speculation, there are plenty of injuries that 'feel' like you can run it off but after 5-10minutes you realise it's just not right.
Until we know what he's actually done it's just speculation, there are plenty of injuries that 'feel' like you can run it off but after 5-10minutes you realise it's just not right.
Until we know what he's actually done it's just speculation, there are plenty of injuries that 'feel' like you can run it off but after 5-10minutes you realise it's just not right.
There was the Spurs player (Doherty?) who Cash tackled/brutally attempted murder on. He played on for about 15 minutes.
IIRC Okore came back on for a few mins when he did his ACL.Correct.
Didn't Roy Keane play on with an ACL that time v Leeds as Fergie had already made the 3 subs? Could have finished his career.
Let's hope it's not a serious injury.
nothing's come out yet..?
nothing's come out yet..?
Turning out to be a long diagnosis. Fingers crossed.
2 months is a long time to lose your best player. Better than I expected though.
Well, I was fully expecting them to announce he'd have to have his leg amputated, so I suppose 2 months has to go in the 'win' column.
There's the summer transfer window down the drain.
I'll be interested to hear the extent of the injury. He'll be lucky if it was an MCL sprain or the like.. hoping for no tears or ruptures.
I feel bad for BK, get well soon.
Prediction - he wont play under Gerrard again now
reading some of the posts i thought his career was over - it is just 2 months he will return in January
cheer up it is the weekend and we wont lose this weekend!
From the OS.
Aston Villa can confirm Boubacar Kamara suffered a knee ligament injury during last Friday’s victory over Southampton.
The midfielder sustained the damage during the first half of our encounter with Saints and was replaced by Douglas Luiz shortly before half-time.
As a result of the injury, Kamara was forced to withdraw from the French national squad for this round of UEFA Nations League fixtures and has begun a rehabilitation programme.
Prediction - he wont play under Gerrard again now
You're a barrel of laughs !
With him and Carlos scuppered i think it buys Gerrard a little more time if i am honest
reading some of the posts i thought his career was over - it is just 2 months he will return in January
cheer up it is the weekend and we wont lose this weekend!
So over 3 months then..?
reading some of the posts i thought his career was over - it is just 2 months he will return in January
cheer up it is the weekend and we wont lose this weekend!
So over 3 months then..?
There's the World Cup break as well which is maybe what Sid meant as we are not playing anyway.
It's typical of our luck. Hopefully Clive and Marvelous can step in. I think he'll put Luiz back in there though, especially now we have his corners as an added threat. Not letting him go looks like a good move.
reading some of the posts i thought his career was over - it is just 2 months he will return in January
cheer up it is the weekend and we wont lose this weekend!
So over 3 months then..?
There's the World Cup break as well which is maybe what Sid meant as we are not playing anyway.
It's typical of our luck. Hopefully Clive and Marvelous can step in. I think he'll put Luiz back in there though, especially now we have his corners as an added threat. Not letting him go looks like a good move.
The irony of all of this is that Chuck would have got the game time he so desperately wanted
We just can't get a break can we?
Cash
Digne
Carlos
Kamara
4 of our starting XI out for some time.
You can't account for a glut of injuries ..
Not worried in the slightest. We’ve been rubbish with them playing so maybe it’s a blessing in disguise..
I think it may have been Tim who might have possibly featured a bit more rather than Chuck.
L’Equipe reporting that he's back in training at Villa. Saying that he’s running and doing individual work with the ball already.
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Boubacar-kamara-a-repris-avec-aston-villa-et-peut-encore-pretendre-a-la-coupe-du-monde/1361216
Probably still won't be back pre World Cup but looks like there's been no setbacks so far.
L’Equipe reporting that he's back in training at Villa. Saying that he’s running and doing individual work with the ball already.The article stipulates that he could be back for the world cup and could even play as early as November 6th for The Villa which as you said sounds pretty optimistic.
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Boubacar-kamara-a-repris-avec-aston-villa-et-peut-encore-pretendre-a-la-coupe-du-monde/1361216
Probably still won't be back pre World Cup but looks like there's been no setbacks so far.
Prediction - he wont play under Gerrard again now
It says in there he's been using the hyperbaric chamber and could start training with the first team next Monday, and could be back for the Man U game.
I'd rather he waited till after the world cup. No point in rushing him. Dendoncker can cover.
Get him back in, next to Dendonker and move Douglas further forward.
Get him back in, next to Dendonker and move Douglas further forward.
I’d have Dendonker and Nakamba as Kamara’s understudy/rotation, and Sanson as Dougie’s. Sell McGinn to one of these clubs who haven’t watched him play for the last 3 years and are preparing £50m bids.
I'd rather he waited till after the world cup. No point in rushing him. Dendoncker can cover.
Super quick recovery by Bouba! It's about 6 weeks since he picked up the injury against Southampton. Similar to Ezri Konsa's quick recovery from a knee injury at the end of last season. Let's hope Diego Carlos is ahead of schedule with his recovery time from his ruptured Achilles injury!
I think that SG's formations and methods were causing undue pressure on the CB's.SG's formations certainly weren't causing any pressure on the opposition CBs!!!
No wonder mistakes were made.
I think that SG's formations and methods were causing undue pressure on the CB's.SG's formations certainly weren't causing any pressure on the opposition CBs!!!
No wonder mistakes were made.
I think that SG's formations and methods were causing undue pressure on the CB's.SG's formations certainly weren't causing any pressure on the opposition CBs!!!
No wonder mistakes were made.
His setup asked questions of everyone bar the opposition
I hope he doesn't quite make it.
I'd prefer he stay with us, get's properly fit and that Emery has the chance to work with him more.
I agree with Drummond.
Nah, we want our players to be happy. I hope he makes it to the World Cup.
Nah, we want our players to be happy. I hope he makes it to the World Cup.Any players we want tapping up ;)
I agree with Drummond.
I might frame that.
He wasn't expected to be back in training and available for match selection until after the World Cup.
It's not coincidence that Gerrard left and both Kamara Digne to be a part of the squad? Really must have been some goings on for some of these players to not be selected. They were signed under SG and stopped playing for him
We welcome him back now and look forward to seeing him in midfield again. I think he was a great signing. A very assured player. Emery could use him in the centre back role as would be excellent in taking the ball and building up play.
They didn't stop playing, they were injured. Then they recovered. They were both mentioned by Gerrard as being closer to a return then first thought, so any conspiracy theory is just pure nutjobbery. It would take some doing to fake an injury that convinced our highly qualified medical staff and regular scans etc, and then have it magically clear up when the manager gets sacked.
It's utter nonsense.
If he makes the squad and is not over played, then at least he should be fully match fit when he returns, which may not be such a bad thing. I'm a bit nervous about him breaking down though.
It's utter nonsense.
It' fucking hilarious is what it is. I've only just noticed it and it's cheered up my morning, plus the comments after of course !
I'm a bit surprised Kamara has come back as soon as he has.
Boubacar Kamara’s first half by numbers vs. Brighton:
100% pass accuracy
20 touches
5/6 ground duels won
4 tackles won
2 ball recoveries
1 clearance
1 shot
Thought he was excellent today, quite surprised the criticism he was getting on the match thread. He's a quality player.
Kamara and Luiz are forming a great partnership. We now have a real presence in midfield.
Thought he was excellent today, quite surprised the criticism he was getting on the match thread. He's a quality player.
France must have a special midfield set up if they can leave Kamara out
Luiz (24), Ramsey (21), Kamara (22). That is some serious potential. Lets see where they can get us to with a world class coach. Ireogbunam to come in as well at some point...Aaron Ramsey could quite conceivably be a contender for our #10 role next season, as well.
Luiz (24), Ramsey (21), Kamara (22). That is some serious potential. Lets see where they can get us to with a world class coach. Ireogbunam to come in as well at some point...Aaron Ramsey could quite conceivably be a contender for our #10 role next season, as well.
KKH should, next season, be pushing Cash for a starting position.
And Feeney.
When I read up about Emery, I read that he's known for giving kids a chance. I'd imagine the likes of A Ramsey and Iroegbunam will have the best chance of coming through and those that haven't been out on loan yet will go out and get that experience.
I wonder if it's actually better/easier to bring 3-4 players through into the senior squad together than one at time. It keeps them together as a group and reduces the pressure on each of them individually by pushing the pressure onto the manager and coaches instead (who've decided to risk bringing so many through at once).
Emre appears to want to use all 5 subs so that should increase the opportunities for younger players.
Emre appears to want to use all 5 subs so that should increase the opportunities for younger players.
Indeed, but they have to be in the squad in the first place. This was the subs bench on Sunday:
Substitutes
8 Sanson /Ramsey. A.
16 Chambers / Feeney
17 Augustinsson / KKH
18 Young
20 Bednarek
25 Olsen / My nan, God bless her soul
31 Bailey / O'Reilly
32 Dendoncker / Iroegbunam
35 Archer / erm Archer/new Striker/Watkins
On top of that you need to add Watkins who was ill, Coutinho who is injured and Carlos who is due back this season. Bednarek is only on loan so he'll be gone, and would think that even with the change in boss that Sanson will be off. Ashley Young won't go on forever, so maybe another place there. Chambers can probably GTFO as well, but assuming we buy a couple of seniors, there's still not much room for kids without injuries or a bigger clear out.
I wonder if it's actually better/easier to bring 3-4 players through into the senior squad together than one at time. It keeps them together as a group and reduces the pressure on each of them individually by pushing the pressure onto the manager and coaches instead (who've decided to risk bringing so many through at once).
I suppose it's possible as with the Beckham and Scholes era Man Utd team, but quite rare. They all need to be good enough for the first team, and even then that's quite a clear out of senior players to accommodate them in the squad.
Looks the real deal. Keep it up Bouba.our best player by a mile today.
He needs a solid and reliable partner in there next to him.I am looking forward to seeing Tim Iroegbunam next to him. Those two could compliment each other extremely well.
I'd like to see Kamara and Dendonker as the pivots in a 4231 system.Yes, I think you're right.
Kamara looks really good, and was our best player yesterday. Looks consistently good as well, unlike Luiz who has your tearing your hair out one minute, then playing a sublime pass the next.
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1607812340497481729?s=46&t=S3bUt1d4au5sQeuvhcLC9QThat is top top play.
Impressive stuff.
https://twitter.com/buendiazboyz/status/1607812340497481729?s=46&t=S3bUt1d4au5sQeuvhcLC9Q
Impressive stuff.
Kamara looks really good, and was our best player yesterday. Looks consistently good as well, unlike Luiz who has your tearing your hair out one minute, then playing a sublime pass the next.
Agreed...another thing I like about Kamara is that he doesn't fall over when an opposition player beats him. He works his nuts off to try and get back, unlike some of his team-mates.
He needs a solid and reliable partner in there next to him.
Proper fucking player this guy.
Yes. Just imagine what he'll become over the next few seasons.
When we signed him I thought Kamara might become the player we've desperately needed in midfield for 3 years, it's taken him less than half a season, gives us everything we've been missing and, importantly, frees Luiz up to be the player loads of us suspected he could be with a bit more freedom.
One of the most gifted players I have seen at Villa for a very long time.Indeed. I thought he was also brilliant against Liverpool and you watch a couple of more games like this and Press will soon earmark him for PSG etc.
If he could only play up front & score and play in goal as well we would cause teams more than a few problems 😉
He’s superb. Great vision, gets stick in and rarely gives it away.
He is a fantastic player and I want Villa to surround him with other classy players. Rarely wastes a pass, covers well for others, reads the game superbly. Would be Captain for me. Best player on the pitch.
Move him to central defence? Jesus Christ.
When we sign Felix, let's move him to DOF.
Move him to central defence? Jesus Christ.
When we sign Felix, let's move him to DOF.
I know, it's like marrying Lee Hyori and telling her she's only allowed to do the washing up.
Fabulous little player. The more I see of him, the better he looks.
Ridiculous and shows no understanding of my points in discussion. It's actually like marrying someone who's really good at 2 things and able to do both fantastically well!Move him to central defence? Jesus Christ.
When we sign Felix, let's move him to DOF.
I know, it's like marrying Lee Hyori and telling her she's only allowed to do the washing up.
Kamara going to centre back might be something he does later in his career but not now, totally unnecessaryYes it's not currently feasible but the view is that he has all the qualities to play and be an outstanding centre back.
I think it’s time for another sabbatical Footy-Vill.I immediately thinking"no" to the aforementioned because I just had a break.
Yep it’s a daft idea. It took us what feels like decades to find an outstanding DM. So a better idea is to buy a top tier CB to upgrade from Konsa on the right or Mings on the left. Someone to ultimately partner Carlos.
Why would we want to move the best CDM we have, from a position that has been a trouble spot for us for as long as I can remember? If we want comfortable ball playing CB’s, then we need to buy comfortable ball playing centre backs. We have one in Carlos, so we will just need another. There is no point in upsetting the CDM slot when we have just got it covered with probably the best option available…
I am sure it was in jest Footy.I think it’s time for another sabbatical Footy-Vill.I immediately thinking"no" to the aforementioned because I just had a break.
And even though I respectfully take on board there is a suggestion or something not to post
I was actually planning to start giving to H and V once more! But these sort of things set me back! As it then becomes a discussion in my thoughts as to how long before someone says I shouldn't post or is trying to exclude me.
Mods really should be the only ones who have the authority on that. Think you're taking advantage of how soft I am but unlucky for you my new years resolutions is not to be dictated to online or off.
New year wishes to you anyway!
Yep it’s a daft idea. It took us what feels like decades to find an outstanding DM. So a better idea is to buy a top tier CB to upgrade from Konsa on the right or Mings on the left. Someone to ultimately partner Carlos.Why would we want to move the best CDM we have, from a position that has been a trouble spot for us for as long as I can remember? If we want comfortable ball playing CB’s, then we need to buy comfortable ball playing centre backs. We have one in Carlos, so we will just need another. There is no point in upsetting the CDM slot when we have just got it covered with probably the best option available…
These comments came across to me as people who weren't fully understanding the idea of a player who could play multiple roles and I was bringing up some points on this that hadn't been covered by anyone for discussion previously.
I was expanding the discussion which were far too readily dismissed as proved bybtge response which don't allow for further open talks
Additionally, if my post was properly read, I provided full justification and explanation rather than merely stating, "Play Kamara at centre back." Cavaets were present. I discussed all of the options for meeting the need for possession-based centre backs and for developing the squad's current players.
I don't think he'll be playing centre back any time soon, Footy.
Yes Footy as CL said. You carry on mate with your left field input and as eamonn said it makes this place better. Happy new year.I am sure it was in jest Footy.I think it’s time for another sabbatical Footy-Vill.I immediately thinking"no" to the aforementioned because I just had a break.
And even though I respectfully take on board there is a suggestion or something not to post
I was actually planning to start giving to H and V once more! But these sort of things set me back! As it then becomes a discussion in my thoughts as to how long before someone says I shouldn't post or is trying to exclude me.
Mods really should be the only ones who have the authority on that. Think you're taking advantage of how soft I am but unlucky for you my new years resolutions is not to be dictated to online or off.
New year wishes to you anyway!
I think she should also sing whilst doing that.Move him to central defence? Jesus Christ.
When we sign Felix, let's move him to DOF.
I know, it's like marrying Lee Hyori and telling her she's only allowed to do the washing up.
I don't think he'll be playing centre back any time soon, Footy.
What I like is Kamara and/or Luiz dropping back deeper more often to collect the ball from our goalie/centre backs and progressing the move forward.What I've noticed since the WC break is that both Mings and Konsa are bringing the ball out more and passing better; as well as letting Kamara and Luiz drop back to receive.
So much better than Mings/Konsa dithering on the ball before going sideways/backwards or hoofing.
The midfielders dropping back a little is helping there. There isn’t so much space between them & that allows a much simpler pass to be made. Good movement allows for good passing. It was always a principle of Wenger back in the day that the player on the ball always had people move around him so that there were always two simple passing options. I’m not saying Emery is Wenger, but the principle remains the same.What I like is Kamara and/or Luiz dropping back deeper more often to collect the ball from our goalie/centre backs and progressing the move forward.What I've noticed since the WC break is that both Mings and Konsa are bringing the ball out more and passing better; as well as letting Kamara and Luiz drop back to receive.
So much better than Mings/Konsa dithering on the ball before going sideways/backwards or hoofing.
A friend who's die hard Spursy was absolutely blown over with how good Kamara was yesterday. He said Kamara bullied Bissouma out of the game.
And oh yes he thinks Spurs will sign him at the end of the season.
Very impressiveBrilliant.... Lets move him toCB :)
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1609899308366663680?s=61&t=81aR483cfMvrJBZiUfIDlg
A friend who's die hard Spursy was absolutely blown over with how good Kamara was yesterday. He said Kamara bullied Bissouma out of the game.
And oh yes he thinks Spurs will sign him at the end of the season.
Yep, I can really see him being charmed to go to a club by a manager who clearly doesn't want to be there.
A friend who's die hard Spursy was absolutely blown over with how good Kamara was yesterday. He said Kamara bullied Bissouma out of the game.
And oh yes he thinks Spurs will sign him at the end of the season.
Yep, I can really see him being charmed to go to a club by a manager who clearly doesn't want to be there.
Spurs fans truly are delusional bell ends.
And oh yes he thinks Spurs will sign him at the end of the season.All Spurs fans are idiots. Every single one of them to a person.
Very impressiveBrilliant.... Lets move him toCB :)
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1609899308366663680?s=61&t=81aR483cfMvrJBZiUfIDlg
I saw a photo of Luiz sliding after scoring yesterday and in the background in the crowd, they're 80 percent photo-taking tourists.
Same as the Liverpool feature.I'm looking forward to seeing him partner with Tim in central midfield (partly because they're both very classy, and partly to wind up the Bitters).
Awareness, knows when to go quick or slow, balance, doesn't fall even when hit, tackles intelligently, prefect weight of pass..
Love it.
Me too. I have rated Iroegbunam as one of our top prospects for a while now & I can’t wait to see him in a Villa shirt next to Kamara. A midfield trio of Kamara, Iroegbunam & Ramsey is young, pacy, exciting, dynamic, etc. Will be very difficult for the opposition to counter their movements. I can’t wait to see it.Same as the Liverpool feature.I'm looking forward to seeing him partner with Tim in central midfield (partly because they're both very classy, and partly to wind up the Bitters).
Awareness, knows when to go quick or slow, balance, doesn't fall even when hit, tackles intelligently, prefect weight of pass..
Love it.
I saw a photo of Luiz sliding after scoring yesterday and in the background in the crowd, they're 80 percent photo-taking tourists.
Yep i saw that with the taking photos . In any circumstance like that whether celebrating or commiserating why would you do that ??Well people who are going to a Premier League match for the first and maybe only time will take photos on their big day out.🙂
Yep i saw that with the taking photos . In any circumstance like that whether celebrating or commiserating why would you do that ??Well people who are going to a Premier League match for the first and maybe only time will take photos on their big day out.🙂
There were a large number of Son fans there. Also the queues at the shop were testament to a marketing success. Their club shop was certainly an upgrade on ours.
I'm not sure I particularly like it, but it's almost unavoidable.
Yep i saw that with the taking photos . In any circumstance like that whether celebrating or commiserating why would you do that ??Well people who are going to a Premier League match for the first and maybe only time will take photos on their big day out.🙂
There were a large number of Son fans there. Also the queues at the shop were testament to a marketing success. Their club shop was certainly an upgrade on ours.
I'm not sure I particularly like it, but it's almost unavoidable.
I saw a photo of Luiz sliding after scoring yesterday and in the background in the crowd, they're 80 percent photo-taking tourists.
I saw a photo of Luiz sliding after scoring yesterday and in the background in the crowd, they're 80 percent photo-taking tourists.
Isn't this the sort of thing Mr Woodhall alluded to when he said (to paraphrase) "To get where we want to be, we must become the thing that we hate".
I saw a photo of Luiz sliding after scoring yesterday and in the background in the crowd, they're 80 percent photo-taking tourists.
Isn't this the sort of thing Mr Woodhall alluded to when he said (to paraphrase) "To get where we want to be, we must become the thing that we hate".
Bloke at work stated Kamara looked good the last couple of games, would he have kept Gerrard in a job if not injured. I stated no, as Kamara had some good games pre-injury but we still looked like shit because Gerrard couldn't work out how to organise the players properly anyway. Emery does.
Bloke at work stated Kamara looked good the last couple of games, would he have kept Gerrard in a job if not injured. I stated no, as Kamara had some good games pre-injury but we still looked like shit because Gerrard couldn't work out how to organise the players properly anyway. Emery does.
Thank God we will never find out.
Getting better with every game, we need more signings like him. Strong, composed, able to compete when it gets physical and looks after the ball. Brilliant player.
He needs a partner in there next to him. Someone more physical. Kamara is a world class player and we need to build the side around him. Fantastic player, so very composed on the ball. Man of the match against Leeds.
Guy just has that touch of class dosen't he? Just so calm in possession and he hit some wonderful passes tonight.
We've missed this type of player since the Barry/Petrov years.
He'll be off like a shot at the first opportunity I think, if he can run his contract down at his boyhood club and leave on a free. So I'm not getting attached to him. Hope we can progress with him over the next year or two so we keep him for a while and get a good profit.
Must admit I couldn't quite see what the fuss was in his first games and even soon after he came back from injury. But in recent games, his composure and reliability in keeping possession and winning it has been magnificent. He seems to be the only player we have who can look after the ball properly, consistently
He'll be off like a shot at the first opportunity I think, if he can run his contract down at his boyhood club and leave on a free. So I'm not getting attached to him. Hope we can progress with him over the next year or two so we keep him for a while and get a good profit.
Please don't sell him off so quickly, we can't be having this conversation everytime a player puts together a string of decent performances.
No doubt the 'big' clubs will soon be circling.......that was the best piece of business Gerrard did during his short tenure at Villa Park.....and on a free transfer is astounding!
When carrying the ball on the run for Bailey's goal, he looked up, carried it further and without breaking stride played the perfect pass through for Bailey's brilliant strike. That, to me is football at its best.
He is brilliantly talented. He seems to be able to sum up the options on the ball with a single glance. Lesser players in our squad need to turn through a full circle in possession of the ball and all fluidity of play is lost.I was critical of him a few matches ago for playing sideways and backwards, but how wrong I was. He reminds me of when Cowans (diff players obv) first played; he needed the team around him to catch up with how good he was. Kamara seems to be understanding the team around him now and they are responding to his skills.
…and stunned to see his head turning left and right like a Terminator scanning its environment with speed and precision.
Also when he cleared a corner in injury time and he just lay there pissing himself laughing, what a bloke.And took a boot to the face for his efforts.
There was a moment at the end of the first half when he was playing out of defence under pressure and he just stopped with the ball and a Leeds player went sliding past. Totally sold him a dummy by doing apparently nothing. Total class!
Also when he cleared a corner in injury time and he just lay there pissing himself laughing, what a bloke.
He was completely bypassed by Sky last night both during and after the game.
I was thinking Paul McGrath, looks like he has all the time in the world on the ball, composed, assured and can step out of defence when needed.
When he went marauding up the pitch my Grenache rouge-sozzled eyes thought it was Watkins. I was amazed at his composure on the ball and stunned to see his head turning left and right like a Terminator scanning its environment with speed and precision. Then he passed it through a labyrinth of legs to Bailey and I realised it was Kamara.He's certainly no Nigel Reo Coker
Didn't footy get castrated for suggesting something similar?I was thinking Paul McGrath, looks like he has all the time in the world on the ball, composed, assured and can step out of defence when needed.
He could play centre half now (though it would be a waste of his gifts) and will prob end up there in the latter years of his career.
He has already played there for Marseille. He can do it, its just a waste of his talents from midfield. And then we are searching for another world class CDM. Again.I was thinking more when he hits his mid 30s, he's got the potential - a bit like Ashley Young did* - to switch roles & squeeze a few more seasons out of his career.
Can people just enjoy him and not sell him off already please.
Can people just enjoy him and not sell him off already please.
It drives me nuts. Last month it was Emi. Now Kamara.
He's the Fortnum and Mason version of Reo Coker.When he went marauding up the pitch my Grenache rouge-sozzled eyes thought it was Watkins. I was amazed at his composure on the ball and stunned to see his head turning left and right like a Terminator scanning its environment with speed and precision. Then he passed it through a labyrinth of legs to Bailey and I realised it was Kamara.He's certainly no Nigel Reo Coker
Can people just enjoy him and not sell him off already please.
It drives me nuts. Last month it was Emi. Now Kamara.
They're different situations though. If there were clubs who could afford £80m and were in desperate need of a goalkeeper, I'd be worried about losing Martinez. There aren't, so I'm not.
I reckon there are quite a few who could afford £80m for a shit-hot, 23 year old defensive midfielder. Particularly given Mac Allister, Bellingham and Fernandez will all be moving this summer, have about half a dozen clubs interested in them and the clubs that don't get them will still have the money and the need for a player in that position.
As Paul suggests, he's far too good to be hanging around a mid-table Premier League club so we need to make sure we stop being one of those pretty quickly.
Can people just enjoy him and not sell him off already please.
It drives me nuts. Last month it was Emi. Now Kamara.
They're different situations though. If there were clubs who could afford £80m and were in desperate need of a goalkeeper, I'd be worried about losing Martinez. There aren't, so I'm not.
I reckon there are quite a few who could afford £80m for a shit-hot, 23 year old defensive midfielder. Particularly given Mac Allister, Bellingham and Fernandez will all be moving this summer, have about half a dozen clubs interested in them and the clubs that don't get them will still have the money and the need for a player in that position.
As Paul suggests, he's far too good to be hanging around a mid-table Premier League club so we need to make sure we stop being one of those pretty quickly.
The truth is that even if we were to qualify for Europe this year (which we won't), if a really big club (I don't mean the likes of Spurs, more Real Madrid) wanted to sign him next summer all we could do would be to get as much money as possible. Even if we were in the fucking 'champions' league, it'd be the same (see Bellingham). If our Villa-mad-from-a-Villa-family-been-here-since-he-was-6-captain can fuck off to Manchester City, I don't hold any hope whatsoever about a French kid showing any remote loyalty if the chance arises, and I wouldn't blame him at all.
From what I've seen, Kamara is world class. We will do well to keep him here for another 18 months, if as i hope, he carries on being so utterly imperious.
Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Everyone is.Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Are there people who aren't enjoying that?
Everyone is.Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Are there people who aren't enjoying that?
But some are seeing him in another shirt already.
Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Are there people who aren't enjoying that?
Everyone is.Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Are there people who aren't enjoying that?
But some are seeing him in another shirt already.
So what? He almost certainly will be at some point, given that's how careers in football nearly always work.
Everyone is.Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Are there people who aren't enjoying that?
But some are seeing him in another shirt already.
So what? He almost certainly will be at some point, given that's how careers in football nearly always work.
your right,we can leave that up to the ownersEveryone is.Isn't it possible to just enjoy the fact that he plays for us?
Are there people who aren't enjoying that?
But some are seeing him in another shirt already.
So what? He almost certainly will be at some point, given that's how careers in football nearly always work.
You're right he probably will.
All I'm saying is like everyone else I'm thoroughly enjoying watching such a talent play for Aston Villa.
I don't see the point in worrying about transfers or agents etc just because he's the best thing I've seen at Villa for decades.
Can't do much about it if it happens. We all know that.
The truth is that even if we were to qualify for Europe this year (which we won't), if a really big club (I don't mean the likes of Spurs, more Real Madrid) wanted to sign him next summer all we could do would be to get as much money as possible. Even if we were in the fucking 'champions' league, it'd be the same (see Bellingham). If our Villa-mad-from-a-Villa-family-been-here-since-he-was-6-captain can fuck off to Manchester City, I don't hold any hope whatsoever about a French kid showing any remote loyalty if the chance arises, and I wouldn't blame him at all.
From what I've seen, Kamara is world class. We will do well to keep him here for another 18 months, if as i hope, he carries on being so utterly imperious.
That's not even remotely the truth but part of the reason it happens so often is because of the sheer amount of people that believe that myth.
The only times where the club is in as weak a position as you're suggesting is if there's a release clause in the contract or when a player gets into the last 2 years of their deal. Even then in the latter case it doesn't mean the player is inevitably leaving and there's nothing we can do.
If what you're suggesting was true:
Benteke would've left after 1 season.
Barry would've signed for Liverpool a year before he actually left.
Luiz would be playing for Arsenal.
and a none Villa one Kane would be at Man City.
There's plenty more examples, and more of them come up every single transfer window but still everyone knows that all you can do once a player has his head turned is make as much money as possible. Have you ever stopped to think that the reason that is considered true is because the media is flooded with players from those clubs and it helps them maintain the status quo for everyone else to "know their place"?
If we want to challenge for trophies we're going to need to upset a few people over this shit.
More importantly, it's fucking annoying to see player threads full of the same "he'll be gone in a year" style comments everytime someone puts together a run of 5-6 good performances, I can understand the sentiment but if you're so worn down by football that you can't even be happy without expecting things to go to shit then maybe the sport isn't good for you.
Villa took the gamble on him by giving him a deal which was better than anything any other club was prepared to offer. For any interested party now to rekindle that interest they will have to meet our valuation and increase his wages by a considerable sum. Whoever that club might be is going to have to make a massive investment for a player who doesn’t score goals. We’ll have him for a few seasons, clubs will be taking notice and probably PSG will make the move.
What a player he's been brilliant for us long may it continue.
What a player he's been brilliant for us long may it continue.
absolutely...a Rolls Royce of a player :)
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Happy to keep it that wayWhat a player he's been brilliant for us long may it continue.
absolutely...a Rolls Royce of a player :)
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Totally agree and although I'm quite happy for it to remain so, How pundits and co-commentators have not singled him out has amazed me.
Do you think if he was at Newcastle their fans would be worried about 'when' not 'if' he'll leave them?
I don't know why there seems to be this acceptance that Newcastle, who I think have made relatively modest changes to their squad, are now shoe in top 4 (in 14 months moving from certain relagation fodder) and Villa will be happy to be top half. It's almost like because they have rich owners everyone will now roll over for them. Yes Newcastle have spent fairly big money, partly because of the premium they were expected to pay because of their owners and to get the 'pioneering' players to start the process. But if you look at their additions man for man they really haven't gone crazy.
If we want to be big we need to think big and act big - that's what Newcastle are doing. Kamara has a long contract. Yes, if we're still a bit shit in 3 years time we can start worrying about losing him. Until then, we just need to fuck the fuckers and get on with building our own team.
I don't know about that. They'll finish top 4 this season. I think they may be a bit more resiliant in transfers than you think.Do you think if he was at Newcastle their fans would be worried about 'when' not 'if' he'll leave them?
I don't know why there seems to be this acceptance that Newcastle, who I think have made relatively modest changes to their squad, are now shoe in top 4 (in 14 months moving from certain relagation fodder) and Villa will be happy to be top half. It's almost like because they have rich owners everyone will now roll over for them. Yes Newcastle have spent fairly big money, partly because of the premium they were expected to pay because of their owners and to get the 'pioneering' players to start the process. But if you look at their additions man for man they really haven't gone crazy.
If we want to be big we need to think big and act big - that's what Newcastle are doing. Kamara has a long contract. Yes, if we're still a bit shit in 3 years time we can start worrying about losing him. Until then, we just need to fuck the fuckers and get on with building our own team.
I imagine that the more level-headed amongst them know that if Real Madrid stick in a £100m bid for Guimarães then life is a bit more complicated than shrugging and pointing at how long is left on his contract.
Must say I feel, quietly, similarly about Kamara to how I feel about Martinez. I'm just kind of amazed we have him, he's so obviously top boss.Agree with this 100% - they are world class players - and we should enjoy them! We may not always have them - but at least now we have a coach that gives us a chance of getting a few more players of there quality!
How did he play today, then?
This player is such a joy to watch. He has single-handedly turned what had been one of our greatest weaknesses into one of our greatest strengths.
Sky rated his performance as 6 out of 10!Good. That's better than them raving about him and we're not having to put up with some muppet suggesting that if he wants to get back in the French team he needs to move to either Manchester club, Chelsea, Spurzz or 'The Mighty Reds YNWA'.
Sky rated his performance as 6 out of 10!
Sky rated his performance as 6 out of 10!
This’ll sound snobby, but so be it. He’s the type of footballer that people who don’t fully understand the game won’t see the fuss about. He’s effortlessly brilliant and not showy at all.
He's the type of player where your record with him, compared to your record without him will tell you all you need to know.
Maybe he needs to learn Spanish.
I hope we don’t move McGinn inside with Luiz.Precious few options as it stands, though. Is dendonker out for long?
Unknown "personal reasons" wasn't it?I hope we don’t move McGinn inside with Luiz.Precious few options as it stands, though. Is dendonker out for long?
Out for a few weeks.
Out for a few weeks.
Not great news but we've got 2 games in the next month, one of which is Bournemouth at home. I'd settle for him being back for the Chelsea game.
but the ref contributed to that spell in the 2nd half when Palace were cynically fowling us .
To be fair once Doucoure got booked his goose was cooked.but the ref contributed to that spell in the 2nd half when Palace were cynically fowling us .
He was too chicken to book them.
To be fair once Doucoure got booked his goose was cooked.but the ref contributed to that spell in the 2nd half when Palace were cynically fowling us .
He was too chicken to book them.
If the ref had done his job and booked a Palace player 20 minutes earlier ,I don't think Kamara would have got injured. Hindsight is a wonderful thing , but the ref contributed to that spell in the 2nd half when Palace were cynically fowling us .
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1632119216269606912?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
This is encouraging. I think. Better than the prayer emoji thingy.
https://twitter.com/avfcofficial/status/1632119216269606912?s=46&t=0-BUXD66ovTcofwrbTW4Ag
This is encouraging. I think. Better than the prayer emoji thingy.
I don't get it, how is that encouraging?
Seems hopeful rather than encouraging to me. Hope I’m wrong.
And lastly to the only real blot on proceedings and Boubacar Kamara’s injury sounds a bad one. The Frenchman is due to have a scan today (Sunday) to reveal the full diagnosis. Kamara knew he was in big trouble as Cheick Doucore recklessly jumped in, with the Villa man immediately signalling to the physios.
“It’s the joint between the two bones in the leg. It’s not a clear diagnosis. We will have the assessment tomorrow. It’s not the ankle or the Achilles,” was the briefing reporters got in the press room on Saturday.
Early indications show the issue could well be what’s called syndesmosis, which is defined as: ‘A fibrous joint held together by ligaments. It's located near the ankle joint, between the tibia, or shinbone, and the distal fibula, or outside leg bone
According to health experts, syndesmosis sprains typically require between six and eight weeks for recovery but this is, of course, variable and only based on educated guesses at this stage.’
I thought that up to that point, the ref had let the game flow quite well, yes he was a little lenient but if there were to be cards, they would have been for persistent fouling rather than for any bad tackles for either side.The problem was they were getting away with increasingly poor challenges and because the ref let them go it was almost inevitable that they would keep pushing the margin.
This shows just what a poor January we had in terms of transfers, we’re now faced with the prospect of giving Dendoncker an extended run.
How's Nakamba getting on, could we recall him? He's not great but I'd rather him on the bench than 6 keepers.
This shows just what a poor January we had in terms of transfers, we’re now faced with the prospect of giving Dendoncker an extended run.
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
And what chance did Sinisalo have of coming off the bench? I can recall a couple of games in the last four years where we've had to change a keeper because of injury. I can't think of a single ocassion ever when the replacement keeper has got hurt. A third keeper, especially a youth player has got the least hope of getting a single second playing time of anybody.
Not really in this case I think, an experienced current Belgian international as a replacement is fair enough, I can't think of too many clubs that have better options. Spurs for example are currently playing that Oliver Skipp in midfield and he's shite
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
And what chance did Sinisalo have of coming off the bench? I can recall a couple of games in the last four years where we've had to change a keeper because of injury. I can't think of a single ocassion ever when the replacement keeper has got hurt. A third keeper, especially a youth player has got the least hope of getting a single second playing time of anybody.
I agree it's a bit odd but I'm just saying how he's explained it.
Someone else mentioned on here that three keepers are required for the pre-match drills. I’ve not seen the actual quotes though or an explanation of what the third keeper does that a coach couldn’t.
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
And what chance did Sinisalo have of coming off the bench? I can recall a couple of games in the last four years where we've had to change a keeper because of injury. I can't think of a single ocassion ever when the replacement keeper has got hurt. A third keeper, especially a youth player has got the least hope of getting a single second playing time of anybody.
I agree it's a bit odd but I'm just saying how he's explained it.
Someone else mentioned on here that three keepers are required for the pre-match drills. I’ve not seen the actual quotes though or an explanation of what the third keeper does that a coach couldn’t.
Skipp isn’t great but he did score a cracker the other day vs Chelsea
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
And what chance did Sinisalo have of coming off the bench? I can recall a couple of games in the last four years where we've had to change a keeper because of injury. I can't think of a single ocassion ever when the replacement keeper has got hurt. A third keeper, especially a youth player has got the least hope of getting a single second playing time of anybody.
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
And what chance did Sinisalo have of coming off the bench? I can recall a couple of games in the last four years where we've had to change a keeper because of injury. I can't think of a single ocassion ever when the replacement keeper has got hurt. A third keeper, especially a youth player has got the least hope of getting a single second playing time of anybody.
I agree it's a bit odd but I'm just saying how he's explained it.
Someone else mentioned on here that three keepers are required for the pre-match drills. I’ve not seen the actual quotes though or an explanation of what the third keeper does that a coach couldn’t.
I won't go into the January window again because it's been done to death. I read an article the other day where Emery says the reason why he's been picking two goalkeepers is because prefers the youth players to be around training rather than giving them false hope of naming them on the bench or something like that.
And what chance did Sinisalo have of coming off the bench? I can recall a couple of games in the last four years where we've had to change a keeper because of injury. I can't think of a single ocassion ever when the replacement keeper has got hurt. A third keeper, especially a youth player has got the least hope of getting a single second playing time of anybody.
I agree it's a bit odd but I'm just saying how he's explained it.
Someone else mentioned on here that three keepers are required for the pre-match drills. I’ve not seen the actual quotes though or an explanation of what the third keeper does that a coach couldn’t.
But why not have the third keeper helping with that , and not have him as a named sub? I don’t think there’s a rule that only subs can be on the pitch in the warm up ?
( I know it’s not your opinion , just repeating what the manager has said btw)
Out for at least a month according to The Athletic.
That position I suppose makes you exposed to tough tackles and clattering.I have seen it on twitter and it's absolutely horrendous tackle
Shame has been a top player for us. Do we know why the Donk was missing on Sat?
There's tough tackles and absolute wanker tackles, that fell into the latter category.He did him, took out our best player, it was deliberate.
So, it looks like a month out for Bouba according to Gregg Evans. Likely to miss 5 of the remaining 13 games. So annoying with that horrendous 'tackle'.Oh really bad news...
Presume he’s crocked for a bit, gutted got tickets for the Bournemouth game and was really looking forward to seeing him play for the first time
Just watched the Unai press conference for Hammers match.
Kamara definitely out for this match but Unai gave impression injury not as bad as many of us had feared and he will be monitored closely for following match.
Fingers crossed.
Bouba fit and back in contention which is great news! He certainly seems to be a quick healer from injuries.
Hopefully not a setback and just a precaution.
Any update on Bouba? We really need him for the run in....
Add Carlos to that list and it's four, of what should be our starting 11, currently out.
Emery's affecting games with very limited bench options. When we go from 11/12 really good players to 15/16 really good players then we can cover for injuries but he'll also have better tools to affect games with and select players/tactics for specific game plans.
Add Carlos to that list and it's four, of what should be our starting 11, currently out.
So that XI would be:
Martinez; Cash, Carlos, Mings, Moreno; McGinn, Kamara, Luiz, Coutinho; Buendia, Watkins?
Works for me, but very harsh on Ramsey who's shown more form than Phil this season (though admittedly his top stuff hasn't shown as much talent as Phil's - but then, you could say the same of Bert after yesterday!).
Emery's affecting games with very limited bench options. When we go from 11/12 really good players to 15/16 really good players then we can cover for injuries but he'll also have better tools to affect games with and select players/tactics for specific game plans.
I was thinking this last night. I said to my Leicester mate "we've got nobody to come on and change a game." Two minutes later, Bert curls in a beaut for the winner. I know nothing.
I can't see Digne being here next season.
I can't see Digne being here next season.
I can - only because no other club will pay him even half of what we do.
If we qualify for Europe, we'll need him. Even if we don't, an injury to Moreno and we've got nobody else at all who can play there. Well I suppose Young can at a push, but I wouldn't want that to happen really.
Ben Chrisene maybe?
Yes, particularly on Coutinho who has been out 2 months with a hamstring injury.
I think Bouba and Cash should both be in with a chance of making the bench. No idea on Bailey or Coutinho though, the updates on them have been a little more vague.
I think Bouba and Cash should both be in with a chance of making the bench. No idea on Bailey or Coutinho though, the updates on them have been a little more vague.
In the last pre-match press conference, Emery lumped Coutinho in with Cash and Kamara when he said they were all looking at another 10-14 days out. Obviously Phil would be further behind match fitness wise.
I think Bouba and Cash should both be in with a chance of making the bench. No idea on Bailey or Coutinho though, the updates on them have been a little more vague.
In the last pre-match press conference, Emery lumped Coutinho in with Cash and Kamara when he said they were all looking at another 10-14 days out. Obviously Phil would be further behind match fitness wise.
I must've missed that one but wasn't the 10-14 days thing from before Forest rather than Newcastle? If so all 3 could be available this weekend
Depends on what tactical masterstroke Unai has up his sleeve for Brentford and Fulham, but would we start Dendoncker and then sub Bouba in for minutes if the games allow for it?
Depends on what tactical masterstroke Unai has up his sleeve for Brentford and Fulham, but would we start Dendoncker and then sub Bouba in for minutes if the games allow for it?
That would be my preference, if he's fit enough to play at all. If he's not completely fit, then don't play him. He was dreadful first half against Chelsea, so either wasn't fully fit or injured himself again.
Depends on what tactical masterstroke Unai has up his sleeve for Brentford and Fulham, but would we start Dendoncker and then sub Bouba in for minutes if the games allow for it?
That would be my preference, if he's fit enough to play at all. If he's not completely fit, then don't play him. He was dreadful first half against Chelsea, so either wasn't fully fit or injured himself again.
I reckon it was the latter. There was a challenge about 15mins in and he never looked comfortable after that, not quite limping but clearly not right.
Or you could just be like the Donk, come in out of blue and drop an 8 out of 10 without breaking sweat
Brentford have quite a bit of height so i would keep the Donkonator in their - he was outstanding on Saturday
Brentford have quite a bit of height so i would keep the Donkonator in their - he was outstanding on SaturdayThere is not much to choose between them height wise but keep Dendoncker as his match fitness level will prevail against a very busy Brentford team.
My only gripe with the Donk is that he doesn't have an elaborately waxed moustache which I was led to believe by Agatha Christie that all Belgians have. I mean, has he even expressed a surrealist obsession with bowler hats, pipes and apples? I'm beginning to suspect he's not really Belgian.
"This is not a pipe" works in so many scenarios.My only gripe with the Donk is that he doesn't have an elaborately waxed moustache which I was led to believe by Agatha Christie that all Belgians have. I mean, has he even expressed a surrealist obsession with bowler hats, pipes and apples? I'm beginning to suspect he's not really Belgian.
Its funny how we view these things. When i see Big Donk i hear bass guitar and see him telling the friendly housewife next door he’s come to fix her washing machine….
Chuckling 🤭"This is not a pipe" works in so many scenarios.My only gripe with the Donk is that he doesn't have an elaborately waxed moustache which I was led to believe by Agatha Christie that all Belgians have. I mean, has he even expressed a surrealist obsession with bowler hats, pipes and apples? I'm beginning to suspect he's not really Belgian.
Its funny how we view these things. When i see Big Donk i hear bass guitar and see him telling the friendly housewife next door he’s come to fix her washing machine….
Called up to the French squad for the upcoming internationals.
Called up to the French squad for the upcoming internationals.
I’d be on my holiday by now if I was him. It’s a late call up isn’t it?
He's had to postpone his honeymoon. So I read in one of the articles this morning.glad he got his priorities right, good sign for the future
Crikey! He was at the airport with his wife ready to fly off on honeymoon when he was called up to replace Rabiot. His missus (an 'influenceuse' in French) posted videos on which she says she doesn't know whether to laugh or cry. There is a video of Kamara going off with his suitcases under a decidedly grey sky.would have been much better if he had done a classic comedy thing of going on his honeymoon AND doing the call up.
https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/equipe-de-france/equipe-de-france-le-drole-de-dimanche-de-boubacar-kamara-et-sa-femme-stoppes-sur-la-route-de-leur-voyage-de-noces_AV-202306110424.html
Stoney top though, obviously to try to get in the boss's good books!
“To replace Fabinho, I think Liverpool should break the bank for Brighton’s Moises Caicedo and although it might be a little too soon for him, Aston Villa’s Boubacar Kamara would be an excellent acquisition for Klopp having been exceptional at times last season – although I think Aston Villa won’t be motivated to sell him this summer,” Collymore said.
Stan Collymore once again showing how much of a Villa fan he isQuote“To replace Fabinho, I think Liverpool should break the bank for Brighton’s Moises Caicedo and although it might be a little too soon for him, Aston Villa’s Boubacar Kamara would be an excellent acquisition for Klopp having been exceptional at times last season – although I think Aston Villa won’t be motivated to sell him this summer,” Collymore said.
Stan Collymore once again showing how much of a Villa fan he isQuote“To replace Fabinho, I think Liverpool should break the bank for Brighton’s Moises Caicedo and although it might be a little too soon for him, Aston Villa’s Boubacar Kamara would be an excellent acquisition for Klopp having been exceptional at times last season – although I think Aston Villa won’t be motivated to sell him this summer,” Collymore said.
Prick
Go slap a woman about as that is really your level
Prick
Go slap a woman about as that is really your level
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.
Dua Lipa is popping around mine tonight, sorry
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.
Stan Collymore once again showing how much of a Villa fan he isQuote“To replace Fabinho, I think Liverpool should break the bank for Brighton’s Moises Caicedo and although it might be a little too soon for him, Aston Villa’s Boubacar Kamara would be an excellent acquisition for Klopp having been exceptional at times last season – although I think Aston Villa won’t be motivated to sell him this summer,” Collymore said.
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.
Margot Robbie's a keeper
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.you can't have both, that's greedy - I'll have to take one off your hands.
I bet its more difficult to get something between her legs than OlsensIn a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.
Margot Robbie's a keeper
Great, she can replace Olsen!
*Checks under settee for old sock.*In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
Bloody hell mate, if you haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street, you really, really want to. Or, when SWMBO is out, just google the bits with Margot in them.
*Checks under settee for old sock.*In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
Bloody hell mate, if you haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street, you really, really want to. Or, when SWMBO is out, just google the bits with Margot in them.
V Newcastle Summer SeriesI very much doubt that. Tielemans is not really a DM. His profile is very similar to Doug's but he's worse defensively. I think he'll mostly play the more advanced pivot role (Doug's role) or further forward.
Error on the second goal. I've seen it before with Kamara getting caught in possesion. I don't think he did well yesterday, and he may be worried about Tieleman's arrival.
I think he's only going to improve and the way Emery has us playing players can get caught if not careful
This site mentions 'Top Totty' in the site rules, I'll have you know.*Checks under settee for old sock.*In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
Bloody hell mate, if you haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street, you really, really want to. Or, when SWMBO is out, just google the bits with Margot in them.
#maaate
Say maaate to a mate next time their behaviour towards women goes too far.
https://www.london.gov.uk/maaate
#maaate
Say maaate to a mate next time their behaviour towards women goes too far.
https://www.london.gov.uk/maaate
*Checks under settee for old sock.*In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
Bloody hell mate, if you haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street, you really, really want to. Or, when SWMBO is out, just google the bits with Margot in them.
#maaate
Say maaate to a mate next time their behaviour towards women goes too far.
https://www.london.gov.uk/maaate
I watched the video and didn't press the 'maaate' button... :-\
Got a warning from the actor bloke being a bit of a knob as to why I hadn't intervened. I blame it on being in a stupor of complete boredom due to how fucking dull everyone is in said video.
Agree with what the video is fighting for, but surely there's a better way to make the same point.
Maybe he wanted just see the whole video? Jesus Christ, it's not real life.I watched the video and didn't press the 'maaate' button... :-\
Got a warning from the actor bloke being a bit of a knob as to why I hadn't intervened. I blame it on being in a stupor of complete boredom due to how fucking dull everyone is in said video.
Agree with what the video is fighting for, but surely there's a better way to make the same point.
You didn't press it at all? That is shocking.
I wondered who would hang around a person like the one in the video. It sounds like you would just put up with it.
You didn't press it at all? That is shocking.
I wondered who would hang around a person like the one in the video. It sounds like you would just put up with it.
Maybe he wanted just see the whole video? Jesus Christ, it's not real life.
*Checks under settee for old sock.*In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
Bloody hell mate, if you haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street, you really, really want to. Or, when SWMBO is out, just google the bits with Margot in them.
#maaate
Say maaate to a mate next time their behaviour towards women goes too far.
https://www.london.gov.uk/maaate
Yet more state sponsored finger wagging - as much as i agree with the motivation behind the actual message it, i dont need politicians being my moral compass. They are hardly role models themselves.
Shit.. i have broken my own point about not having political comments in a football thread - apologies
Stan Collymore once again showing how much of a Villa fan he isQuote“To replace Fabinho, I think Liverpool should break the bank for Brighton’s Moises Caicedo and although it might be a little too soon for him, Aston Villa’s Boubacar Kamara would be an excellent acquisition for Klopp having been exceptional at times last season – although I think Aston Villa won’t be motivated to sell him this summer,” Collymore said.
On a par with our other “fan” Agbonlabor.
I watched the video and didn't press the 'maaate' button... :-\
Got a warning from the actor bloke being a bit of a knob as to why I hadn't intervened. I blame it on being in a stupor of complete boredom due to how fucking dull everyone is in said video.
Agree with what the video is fighting for, but surely there's a better way to make the same point.
You didn't press it at all? That is shocking.
I wondered who would hang around a person like the one in the video. It sounds like you would just put up with it.
Kamara is starting to worry me a little bit. He's a very good (potentially a great) player, but he keeps getting caught on the ball and it'll get punished.
Glad it happened though, I would rather things like that show themselves now and get them fixed before the season starts.
Kamara is starting to worry me a little bit. He's a very good (potentially a great) player, but he keeps getting caught on the ball and it'll get punished.
Glad it happened though, I would rather things like that show themselves now and get them fixed before the season starts.
I believe it is a combination of understanding football, being threatened by Tielemans and the competition, the talent of Douglas Luiz and him being first choice, and maybe one of the most important things BK being strong enough to play at dm and free from injury.
The potential is there, but it can be casual and indecisive at times. He was a Gerrard signing, but I believe Emery has room for him since Kamara has a lot of quality on the ball despite some obvious flaws in trying to play in Emery system he's very talented and generally a classy footballer.
I think that's part of it Dogtanian, he's bullied on the ball a bit. When he has time and space on the ball he's brilliant, but Leicester showed what happens if you closely mark him and give him a bit of close attention.
I think that's part of it Dogtanian, he's bullied on the ball a bit. When he has time and space on the ball he's brilliant, but Leicester showed what happens if you closely mark him and give him a bit of close attention.
The special attention applies to any player however good. Kamara gets that attention because it’s obvious that if he’s allowed too much time on the ball he will control the game. He will have to learn/ or be aware to release the ball quicker at Prem level. Even so, he’s a starter for me still in every game if he remains fit. That tackle against the Brighton forward Ferguson when in on goal was pivotal to us winning the game.
You didn't press it at all? That is shocking.
I wondered who would hang around a person like the one in the video. It sounds like you would just put up with it.
Maybe he wanted just see the whole video? Jesus Christ, it's not real life.
Haven't watched the video, is Margot Robbie in it?
I didn't even get as far as pressing the play button.
I didn't even get as far as pressing the play button.Cheer up love!
I'm more of a Sid the Sexist fan.
I'm more of a Sid the Sexist fan.
Do you like chicken pet?
*Checks under settee for old sock.*In a similar fashion, Dua Lipa and Margot Robbie are on my shortlist of two.Had to Google them. If you Google Margot Robbie (https://www.google.com/search?q=margot+robbie)* the page goes all pink and there are shooting stars and whatnot.
Would bang btw.
*Also works with Ryan Gosling etc. Would not bang.
Bloody hell mate, if you haven't seen Wolf of Wall Street, you really, really want to. Or, when SWMBO is out, just google the bits with Margot in them.
#maaate
Say maaate to a mate next time their behaviour towards women goes too far.
https://www.london.gov.uk/maaate
Yet more state sponsored finger wagging - as much as i agree with the motivation behind the actual message it, i dont need politicians being my moral compass. They are hardly role models themselves.
Shit.. i have broken my own point about not having political comments in a football thread - apologies
Hookeysmith-sponsored finger-wagging about what we should post about there.
In the latest France squad.
Definitely deserved.
Much as I worry about players on international duty, we need them to start getting picked or they'll start thinking they need to move to a 'big club' to get noticed.
Dougie not in the Brazil squad in the odd one for me.
What's going on with him? Massive nosedive in his level of performance.
What's going on with him? Massive nosedive in his level of performance.
Maybe he needs benching for a while, give him some time to stew.
Although he is French and they do tend to look fucking miserable all the time, especially when amongst English people.can't blame him really.... :D
Although he is French and they do tend to look fucking miserable all the time, especially when amongst English people.It's usually because they have seen a "Sunday roast" and are thinking "What the FUCK am I doing in the company of Englishers? Do they really eat those?"
Certainly doesn’t look like the Kamara of last season.
When he came off today he was holding his hip, but he also does looks pretty miserable.
His honeymoon period is over.Certainly doesn’t look like the Kamara of last season.
When he came off today he was holding his hip, but he also does looks pretty miserable.
He got married in the summer, didn't he.
His honeymoon period is over.Certainly doesn’t look like the Kamara of last season.
When he came off today he was holding his hip, but he also does looks pretty miserable.
He got married in the summer, didn't he.
In what system does Ramsey come in for Kamara and we benefit defensively?
In what system does Ramsey come in for Kamara and we benefit defensively?
I think we'd benefit defensively from any midfield system that actually works and manages to control the game.
Ramsey? Change the formation to suit the players we have. Feels like a couple of times we've been trying to force players into positions just to get them on the pitch.The players we have suit a double pivot. It has been the cornerstone of our success since Emery joined and something we had been crying out for. It's the system that gets the best out of Luiz and in theory would probably be the system that suites Tielemans best too, although he would need to be the more advanced of the two (ie Luiz's role)
He's a young player, recently married so probably still getting some. Give him a couple of months and he'll have his energy and adrenaline back.The old penny in the jar theory.
Ramsey? Change the formation to suit the players we have. Feels like a couple of times we've been trying to force players into positions just to get them on the pitch.The players we have suit a double pivot. It has been the cornerstone of our success since Emery joined and something we had been crying out for. It's the system that gets the best out of Luiz and in theory would probably be the system that suites Tielemans best too, although he would need to be the more advanced of the two (ie Luiz's role)
If Kamara needs taking out, then the most obvious answer is now Luiz-Tielemans (Luiz playing the more defensive role). Dendonker-Luiz should also be an option, but Emery preferred to bring McGinn back ahead of Dendonker last season - so that's another option.
So whatever we chose to do with Ramsey, I'd be very surprised if it involved us moving away from two centre mids.
Yeah, but he does have a tendency to occasionally attempt to be a bit *too* clever with the ball when on the edge of our area and then lose the ball in a very dangerous position, he almost got caught out doing that again at Forest.
I still love him, but he needs to stop doing that, because I shit a brick every time.
He was fantastic today at times, Booba.
Big loss, we don’t really have a proper replacement.Let's give Tim a runout ...
Big loss, we don’t really have a proper replacement.
Big loss, we don’t really have a proper replacement.Let's give Tim a runout ...
Bouba fantastic today, Arsenal will be interested tomorrow.
It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
As the player had to be subbed off, I don't think he made a meal of it. It was a late challenge as the player played the ball faster then Cash anticipated, probably made slightly in frustration. As others have mentioned, it would be the classic challenge shown under the dictionary definition of Yellow Card Offence: Late Challenge Example.
It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
As the player had to be subbed off, I don't think he made a meal of it. It was a late challenge as the player played the ball faster then Cash anticipated, probably made slightly in frustration. As others have mentioned, it would be the classic challenge shown under the dictionary definition of Yellow Card Offence: Late Challenge Example.
He's talking about Kamara isn't he?
Which I felt was also fair enough. Their player was about to break past him and Kamara just stopped him. Sensible yellow card to pick up, and better to be out of the Bournemouth game than one of the two that follow it anyway.
Obviously if he'd not done it, they'd only have got caught offside anyway.
It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
As the player had to be subbed off, I don't think he made a meal of it. It was a late challenge as the player played the ball faster then Cash anticipated, probably made slightly in frustration. As others have mentioned, it would be the classic challenge shown under the dictionary definition of Yellow Card Offence: Late Challenge Example.
It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
As the player had to be subbed off, I don't think he made a meal of it. It was a late challenge as the player played the ball faster then Cash anticipated, probably made slightly in frustration. As others have mentioned, it would be the classic challenge shown under the dictionary definition of Yellow Card Offence: Late Challenge Example.
He's talking about Kamara isn't he?
Which I felt was also fair enough. Their player was about to break past him and Kamara just stopped him. Sensible yellow card to pick up, and better to be out of the Bournemouth game than one of the two that follow it anyway.
Obviously if he'd not done it, they'd only have got caught offside anyway.
Yes, missed the thread title so apologies for that. Everyone and their "Son" have been moaning about the Cash one that I genuinely thought it had been the only tackle in the games over the weekend.
Edit:- Although the supposed elbow by Carlos on Gil, even shown on the Beeb for some reason seems to be gathering momentum in the media.
It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
As the player had to be subbed off, I don't think he made a meal of it. It was a late challenge as the player played the ball faster then Cash anticipated, probably made slightly in frustration. As others have mentioned, it would be the classic challenge shown under the dictionary definition of Yellow Card Offence: Late Challenge Example.
Edit:- Although the supposed elbow by Carlos on Gil, even shown on the Beeb for some reason seems to be gathering momentum in the media.
I didn’t notice that during the game. I think we were lucky that a pen wasn’t given. It was reckless by Carlos given that Gil was nowhere near getting to the ball.
yes I was talking about Kamara :)It was a piss poor decision for the card, it was a tackle he had every right to make.
It wasn’t dirty, excessive or deliberate, a genuine attempt to win the ball and he caught the player slightly who made a meal of it.
I can not remember him committing a foul before that. Awful ref.
As the player had to be subbed off, I don't think he made a meal of it. It was a late challenge as the player played the ball faster then Cash anticipated, probably made slightly in frustration. As others have mentioned, it would be the classic challenge shown under the dictionary definition of Yellow Card Offence: Late Challenge Example.
Edit: forget it.
Blundered for tonight's goal but it didn't put him off his game the way early mistakes sometimes did last season.
Its clearly done to an instruction though as Dendonker also does it when he replaces him in games.
Heart in mouth moments in a number of matches when Boubacar has the ball near the penalty area. The closer to the half-way line he is, the greater the player he is. Konsa should be keeping a closer eye on him and shepherd him more.
Heart in mouth moments in a number of matches when Boubacar has the ball near the penalty area. The closer to the half-way line he is, the greater the player he is. Konsa should be keeping a closer eye on him and shepherd him more.
Even Konsa had a few uncharacteristic iffy moments last night.
Majestic.Like a fine red wine.
With the review process what is the odds of us dragging it on till after the United game? Would have loved to have him available at old Trafford but Sheffield and Burnley we should be fine without him. I cant see it being overturned but wondered if we could delay the ban by a week.
Disappointed with his sending off. We will miss him now for some key games over the holidays. Still should get players back so hopefully the impact isn’t too great. And he can get a rest too.
With the review process what is the odds of us dragging it on till after the United game? Would have loved to have him available at old Trafford but Sheffield and Burnley we should be fine without him. I cant see it being overturned but wondered if we could delay the ban by a week.
Nah, I think when you've put your hands into someone's face, any appeal would be seen as a pisstake with a chance of actually increasing the ban.
With the review process what is the odds of us dragging it on till after the United game? Would have loved to have him available at old Trafford but Sheffield and Burnley we should be fine without him. I cant see it being overturned but wondered if we could delay the ban by a week.
Nah, I think when you've put your hands into someone's face, any appeal would be seen as a pisstake with a chance of actually increasing the ban.
Your probably right, I mean losing at united was always on the cards anyway full strength or not but if we manage 6 points from the next 3 games we will still be sitting pretty.
With the review process what is the odds of us dragging it on till after the United game? Would have loved to have him available at old Trafford but Sheffield and Burnley we should be fine without him. I cant see it being overturned but wondered if we could delay the ban by a week.
Nah, I think when you've put your hands into someone's face, any appeal would be seen as a pisstake with a chance of actually increasing the ban.
Your probably right, I mean losing at united was always on the cards anyway full strength or not but if we manage 6 points from the next 3 games we will still be sitting pretty.
Man U are fucking shit. We should be expecting to go and at least get a point if not all three.
True. He plays an important role keeping thing ticking over. But JJ coming back to full health helps. And it’s inevitable we were going to get a red eventually or suspensions overall. We’ve been pretty good for the most part.
True. He plays an important role keeping thing ticking over. But JJ coming back to full health helps. And it’s inevitable we were going to get a red eventually or suspensions overall. We’ve been pretty good for the most part.
It's just annoying when it really didn't need to happen. If it was a last ditch mis-timed tackle to save a goal then fair enough, but just handbags after some Emi and Maupay nonsense? Really daft.
Martinez definitely walked on the edge as well and might have retrospective punishment.
For quite awhile he was being the calm one. But as I mentioned on the thread, how he got a red and certain Brentford players did not is certainly a question. Martinez definitely walked on the edge as well and might have retrospective punishment.
Hear hearFor quite awhile he was being the calm one. But as I mentioned on the thread, how he got a red and certain Brentford players did not is certainly a question. Martinez definitely walked on the edge as well and might have retrospective punishment.
Like you said, it was strange how Bouba went from the one trying to calm the situation (first with Maupay - I'm guessing in French), then with others, to being the one to get the red card. My suspicion is something was said to him, or there was contact not shown in the camera, because he seemingly went from calm and in control to hand in the face in about two seconds.
It's disappointing that he got a red card, but I'm also pleased with the team spirit which showed we're not going to let ourselves be bullied by the more physical teams. We'll give as good as we get.
We won there the season before last, we can do it againWith the review process what is the odds of us dragging it on till after the United game? Would have loved to have him available at old Trafford but Sheffield and Burnley we should be fine without him. I cant see it being overturned but wondered if we could delay the ban by a week.
Nah, I think when you've put your hands into someone's face, any appeal would be seen as a pisstake with a chance of actually increasing the ban.
Your probably right, I mean losing at united was always on the cards anyway full strength or not but if we manage 6 points from the next 3 games we will still be sitting pretty.
Man U are fucking shit. We should be expecting to go and at least get a point if not all three.
Shit or not we struggle at old Trafford and have for as long as I can remember. I'd love to be leaving the Burnley game on the 30th after 3 more wins on the spin but those shit arses will find a way to get 4 pens and beat us.
Watching the highlights again, McGinn goes mental at Kamara after the red card, tapping his head to indicate he thinks Bouba's been an idiot. That's what you want from your captain, setting him straight.
Yes but it’s always a in the moment thing and I am happy for our players to become feral on occasions as long as it’s not every match.True. He plays an important role keeping thing ticking over. But JJ coming back to full health helps. And it’s inevitable we were going to get a red eventually or suspensions overall. We’ve been pretty good for the most part.
It's just annoying when it really didn't need to happen. If it was a last ditch mis-timed tackle to save a goal then fair enough, but just handbags after some Emi and Maupay nonsense? Really daft.
100% this.
So stupid. Hopefully Youri is back.
We had struggled at, (checks notes™), Brentford before too. I expect us to smash the bastards.This. Unai is rewriting the old norms into new routine.
Nice flick for the winner.
Disappointing red. Why can't players just walk away?
Watching the highlights again, McGinn goes mental at Kamara after the red card, tapping his head to indicate he thinks Bouba's been an idiot. That's what you want from your captain, setting him straight.
That prick that got himself involved in our goal celebrations lit the touch paper and slinked off without sanction, the snidey get.
For me Kamara is the player we have the least cover for, so timing is awful. Especially with McGinn a booking from a ban too. A midfield at Old Trafford of Dendonker, Luiz and Ramsey doesn't fill me with joy
For me Kamara is the player we have the least cover for, so timing is awful. Especially with McGinn a booking from a ban too. A midfield at Old Trafford of Dendonker, Luiz and Ramsey doesn't fill me with joy
We are fortunate with who we play next... frustrating thing is he was trying to calm the situation down, yet got a couple of pushes and then reacted.
Zaniolo, McGinn, Luiz, Ramsey (with added Teilemans and Dendonkar) isn't the end of the world.
Emi wouldn’t be who is is without that element to his game. He’s a maverick. He can’t be held responsible for Kamara grabbing anyone on the same way Ollie can’t be blamed for the ruckus after the goal.
I’m sure the boss will have a word in private with all involved.
Maupay is French.I really, really think that there was nothing of the sort to it.
Can't help thinking there was some leftovers here from Martinez antics at the last World Cup.
Feel sorry for him, he shouldn't have raised his hands but that twat had a swipe at him first and he'd been trying to be peacemaker up until that.
If he is going back to France, I doubt it will be for "Christmas".
Jesus is one of the great prophets of Islam, though, so maybe he'll raise a cheeky Ricard on the 25th?
Jesus is one of the great prophets of Islam, though, so maybe he'll raise a cheeky Ricard on the 25th?
I developed rather a liking for Ricard in the summer.
I love Ricard.
I love Ricard.
Why am I not surprised. ;)
I love Ricard.
Why am I not surprised. ;)
Is that my image? A flatcapped Provençal pensioner having a lazy game of pétanque?
I love Ricard.
Why am I not surprised. ;)
Is that my image? A flatcapped Provençal pensioner having a lazy game of pétanque?
I'm saying nothing. The last time I speculated on your image you took great offence.
If he is going back to France, I doubt it will be for "Christmas".
I love Ricard.
Why am I not surprised. ;)
Is that my image? A flatcapped Provençal pensioner having a lazy game of pétanque?
I'm saying nothing. The last time I speculated on your image you took great offence.
I forget what it was, but I'm betting anything the word 'topknot' was thrown about with callous abandon.
Jesus is one of the great prophets of Islam, though, so maybe he'll raise a cheeky Ricard on the 25th?
I developed rather a liking for Ricard in the summer.
Group Ricard used to be one of my clients and despite massive success with so many of their brands we couldn't do anything with Ricard. We even tried Ricardinhas (a twist on Caipirinha) but the French owners soon put a stop to that. It doesn't matter how much you dilute it, it still tastes of nasty cough medicine.
Ratio of 1:4 or 1:5 is my preference.
I hope not it's poison.
I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Does anyone know where he now is with regards to future bookings and suspensions when the next phase begins. ie how many bookings until his next suspension and how many games will it be?
I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Me too. Fucking Coca Cola!
Everyone knows Pepsi is superior.
The Germans are wont to order Pastis and Coca Cola when on holiday in France.I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Me too. Fucking Coca Cola!
Everyone knows Pepsi is superior.
Never tried Pepsi with Ricard. I may give it a go.
The Germans are wont to order Pastis and Coca Cola when on holiday in France.I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Me too. Fucking Coca Cola!
Everyone knows Pepsi is superior.
Never tried Pepsi with Ricard. I may give it a go.
Savages.
When I was in school we went on a trip to the Netherlands and we were all disgusted when we came down for breakfast and all that was on offer was slices of bread and hundreds and thousands.
I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Me too. Fucking Coca Cola!
Everyone knows Pepsi is superior.
Never tried Pepsi with Ricard. I may give it a go.
When I was in school we went on a trip to the Netherlands and we were all disgusted when we came down for breakfast and all that was on offer was slices of bread and hundreds and thousands.
Well as you said, you were 'on a trip'. Obviously when you 'came down' hundreds and thousands probably weren't so magical. #fussyjunkies
Can't use coke as a mixer for anything, induces waves of nausia from a bad experience in my youth with Malibu.
I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Me too. Fucking Coca Cola!
Everyone knows Pepsi is superior.
Never tried Pepsi with Ricard. I may give it a go.
How about cassis?
What’s with the quirky space before the exclamation marks?
Is that some sort of linguistic French muck?
When I was in school we went on a trip to the Netherlands and we were all disgusted when we came down for breakfast and all that was on offer was slices of bread and hundreds and thousands.
The Germans are wont to order Pastis and Coca Cola when on holiday in France.I hope not it's poison.
*gasp* Sacrilegious talk! We're very protective of our aniseed-based paint stripper round these parts.
Tell me about it. As I mentioned above the French were not happy when we tried to introduce Ricardinhas. For them it was right up there with Americans buying up all our 1994 Vintage Port (a vintage of the century) and immediately drinking it.. with fucking Coca Cola. There are certain things in life that you just don't forget or forgive.
That actually made me angry.
Me too. Fucking Coca Cola!
Everyone knows Pepsi is superior.
Never tried Pepsi with Ricard. I may give it a go.
Savages.
No. I love Germans but they do have some weird and idiosyncratic habits.
Of course, I'm basing this on experience of close family and extending it to the entire population of the Bundesrepublik.
You only realise how much he does when he isn't there to do it. The link up play between defence and attack just isn't as fluid when he's out.
Without checking Google, is Bouba out for three?Yes - straight red.
You only realise how much he does when he isn't there to do it. The link up play between defence and attack just isn't as fluid when he's out.
I think him and Pau are absolutely vital.
Also we need cannot have McGinn taking up a deeper role. He needs to be given the freedom to attack them from a more advanced midfield position
Also we need cannot have McGinn taking up a deeper role. He needs to be given the freedom to attack them from a more advanced midfield position
Can Lenglet play this role? Someone mentioned he may have done before?
I thought at the end of the Brentford game with his sending off that we might look weaker without Bouba. Plus losing Torres and Tielemans has impacted the balance of the team. Kamara would've been particularly good at Old Trafford. I'm still annoyed at that stupid sending off!
I did think after the SheffU game that Tim might have been worth playing in Kamara's role. When he debuted against Burnley (during the Scouse Fraud's tenure) he looked very assured in that role.
I thought at the end of the Brentford game with his sending off that we might look weaker without Bouba. Plus losing Torres and Tielemans has impacted the balance of the team. Kamara would've been particularly good at Old Trafford. I'm still annoyed at that stupid sending off!
Angry? I'm furious about it. Totally unnecessary and could be very costly for us.
I'm still furious about Derek Mountfield scoring an own goal then letting Robert Rosario past him for the equaliser at 3-3 against Norwich back in April 1990. :-/I thought that was just me.
I'm still furious about Derek Mountfield scoring an own goal then letting Robert Rosario past him for the equaliser at 3-3 against Norwich back in April 1990. :-/
I'm still furious about Derek Mountfield scoring an own goal then letting Robert Rosario past him for the equaliser at 3-3 against Norwich back in April 1990. :-/
I thought at the end of the Brentford game with his sending off that we might look weaker without Bouba. Plus losing Torres and Tielemans has impacted the balance of the team. Kamara would've been particularly good at Old Trafford. I'm still annoyed at that stupid sending off!
Angry? I'm furious about it. Totally unnecessary and could be very costly for us.
Still furious after all these days after an event?
I thought at the end of the Brentford game with his sending off that we might look weaker without Bouba. Plus losing Torres and Tielemans has impacted the balance of the team. Kamara would've been particularly good at Old Trafford. I'm still annoyed at that stupid sending off!
Angry? I'm furious about it. Totally unnecessary and could be very costly for us.
Still furious after all these days after an event?
I genuinely think Martinez is more to blame for the red than Kamara. He leaves Maupay on the floor and it doesn't happenYep , started a silly episode we didn't need , we were winning the game their only hope was cause some chaos . All so naive
I genuinely think Martinez is more to blame for the red than Kamara. He leaves Maupay on the floor and it doesn't happen
Won 6 out of 16 without him. Silly billy with that red.Bugger. I didn’t realise he is such a huge jeopardy for us out of the team. So based on every strength is a weakness in equal measure Unai needs to develop a better option for next absence.
Won 6 out of 16 without him. Silly billy with that red.That is a serious stat.
It's also an incorrect stat, it's actually 6 wins in 17.
Do players get their pay docked if they get sent-off and suspended or did that go out with shin pads and white dog muck ? Seems unfair that you get Christmas off for being a div while your teammates toil and flail about without you.
Do players get their pay docked if they get sent-off and suspended or did that go out with shin pads and white dog muck ? Seems unfair that you get Christmas off for being a div while your teammates toil and flail about without you.
There always used to be a standard FA fine, but it was the same fine whether you were a Premier League player or a Sunday league player.
I think most contracts have a financial penalty, but nothing that would really touch the sides for someone earning pretty much any wage in the top two / three division.
Won 6 out of 16 without him. Silly billy with that red.Bugger. I didn’t realise he is such a huge jeopardy for us out of the team. So based on every strength is a weakness in equal measure Unai needs to develop a better option for next absence.
The two games Kamara has missed we were also missing Torres, which changes the back line completely. Then we have Ramsey and Diaby, neither of which are in great form at the moment. I don't think it's a case of Kamara being the sole reason we've had a draw and a loss.Yes Torres was a huge loss as his inclusion would have stopped Carlos acting like Father Christmas with the ball.
Agree, we have missed him.
He’s a good player in his own right but more so he makes the rest better too. Luiz and mcginn both have more freedom and possibly trust in the system when Kamara is sat behind them.
The replay looked like he'd twisted his knee at an awkward angle. I hope he's ok and back for next week.Knowing our track record he'll be out for the season
These injuries are really mounting up. I hope it's nothing to do with his knee ligaments, but you fear the worst especially after Emi Buendia and Tyrone Mings' season ending injuries.
So that’s his season over then.probably
If he's out long I'd much rather we use Tim (the player, not the poster) rather than dropping McGinn or Tielemans back there.
If it's longer term I think McGinn is our best option in that role. I thought it would be Tielemans, but McGinn is the only one I'd trust to play there now and he did a good job at the end of last season.
Now that Ramsey looks to be getting back to form we can just about cope with moving SJM.
Got to give Tim the chance now, no point moving McGinn and Tielemans is useless in our own half.
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
Got to give Tim the chance now, no point moving McGinn and Tielemans is useless in our own half.
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
looks like he slipped / lost his footing on the grass. Do they water the pitch too much ??If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
Buendia's was pre-season though, and Mings was first game, so obviously wasn't overuse by then. Kamara seemed to fall in a funny way when trying to hold off a player. We don't know that it's an ACL, but if it is, it's just bad luck.
Worrying if truewhat ?
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
Buendia's was pre-season though, and Mings was first game, so obviously wasn't overuse by then. Kamara seemed to fall in a funny way when trying to hold off a player. We don't know that it's an ACL, but if it is, it's just bad luck.
Worrying if truewhat ?
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
Buendia's was pre-season though, and Mings was first game, so obviously wasn't overuse by then. Kamara seemed to fall in a funny way when trying to hold off a player. We don't know that it's an ACL, but if it is, it's just bad luck.
If it's an ACL it will be a proper kick in the gut. We can probably shuffle the 11 to cover that position without too much of a drop off in quality now that JJ is back fit, but honestly, we have zero depth in midfield at that point. It's an opportunity for Tim to come in and shine. If Kobbie Mainoo can have a run of games at 18, let's see what Tim can do at 20?
Has any premier league side ever dealt with 3 ACL injuries in one season?
4 as they are throwing Konsa only having his scan for the check of his knee injury today.
just our luck thisWorrying if truewhat ?
On social media its being reported ACL injury for kamara
just our luck thisWorrying if truewhat ?
On social media its being reported ACL injury for kamara
Social media taking the most catastrophic view of both injuries. Whatever….I Google social media if I got health issues, according to them I died years ago
Social media taking the most catastrophic view of both injuries. Whatever….I Google social media if I got health issues, according to them I died years ago
I would be happy for them to put their trust in Tim if we need cover; I don't think re-positioning players who should already be in the team serves us well.
Cheers, Paul, I feel slightly less sick after reading that!
Just to wind back a little, it's not being 'reported on social media' it's 1 account with a pretty iffy record on injuries that captured a still frame of the match and said it looked like an ACL injury. Pretty much everything stems from that 1 report.
For what it's worth the image makes it look a lot worse than it does in video, when you see it in real time it looks like a small degree of lateral hyperflexion (or the knee bending to the side slightly more than you'd normally expect). At worst I'd guess a grade 2 MCL which would be 4-6weeks, more likely nothing serious or a grade 1 which would be 3weeks-ish.
Even if he’s only out for up to 6 weeks it’s still a big blow to our top 4 hopes
We all know McGinn and Luiz in the middle doesn't really work so if the worst happens I would much rather Tim be given a go. I know history tells us Emery won't do this but I'd like it given a good go.
I genuinely wonder how anyone would know what the injury is.
Is it based on an image or has there been a leak from the club? I don’t see how you can diagnose an injury from an image
although he did put his hand up for attention straight away after doing it.
It’s Villa though so I expect the worst but pray it’s good news.
We didn't sell Dendoncker though, we've loaned him. Limited FFP gains, surely barely worth the risk. We can flog him at the end of the season regardless.
Unai did back Tim but has only given him a few minutes since he got back, each time in a losing cause with the pressure off. I'd be shocked if he suddenly starts him, I think it'll be McGinn and Luiz in the middle with Tielemans ahead of them.
I don’t share others views that we can shuffle the deck and basically more or less cover the loss. Kamara is uniquely excellent within our squad, this is an absolutely catastrophic blow to our chances.Absolute nightmare, our problems started with his sending off and we really did not cope well without him.
3 ACLs to key first team squad players is just ridiculous, suspect it won’t get the same coverage as Spurs having some absences for a few months.
We didn't sell Dendoncker though, we've loaned him. Limited FFP gains, surely barely worth the risk. We can flog him at the end of the season regardless.
Unai did back Tim but has only given him a few minutes since he got back, each time in a losing cause with the pressure off. I'd be shocked if he suddenly starts him, I think it'll be McGinn and Luiz in the middle with Tielemans ahead of them.
I'd rather use the players we have than Dendoncker.
We didn't sell Dendoncker though, we've loaned him. Limited FFP gains, surely barely worth the risk. We can flog him at the end of the season regardless.
Unai did back Tim but has only given him a few minutes since he got back, each time in a losing cause with the pressure off. I'd be shocked if he suddenly starts him, I think it'll be McGinn and Luiz in the middle with Tielemans ahead of them.
I'd rather use the players we have than Dendoncker.
Absolute choker this is.
Is this something to do with or pitch? There is plastic grass woven in with the real grass - are studs catching?
Again, Tim does.
Now we're left with an untried kid or a square peg in a round hole.
I'd be really surprised if Tim starts when we're under huge pressure to get some points on the board. Surely it has to be McGinn?
Mcginn is not a defensive midfielder though. If anyone, Luiz will play there if he dosent give Tim a run out.McGinn did it last season didn't he? And yes, of course Luiz has to adapt accordingly.
Mcginn is not a defensive midfielder though. If anyone, Luiz will play there if he dosent give Tim a run out.McGinn did it last season didn't he? And yes, of course Luiz has to adapt accordingly.
As for Chambers - I think you need a sit down DC.
How about we play Tim and only disrupt one position.
I think we are going to have to.;How about we play Tim and only disrupt one position.
This.
McGinn played alongside Luiz for 6 or 7 games in the second half of last season, with Luiz moving a bit deeper.
How about we play Tim and only disrupt one position.
This.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
I would be happy for them to put their trust in Tim if we need cover; I don't think re-positioning players who should already be in the team serves us well.Nothing I've read / heard changes my previous opinion.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
I would be happy for them to put their trust in Tim if we need cover; I don't think re-positioning players who should already be in the team serves us well.
Agreed. Assuming Kamara is out for a while now, I'd say this is how I'd line up:
Martinez
Cash Carlos Torres Digne/Moreno
McGinn Luiz Iroegbunam Ramsey
Bailey Watkins
How about we play Tim and only disrupt one position.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Jeepers Demitri, that’s utter detritus you’re spouting.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.
Anyway it’s a great opportunity for Tim to step up and establish himself in the first XI.
Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?
Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard ofWell, actually, it isn't.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.
Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?
Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.
Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?
Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.
You're missing the point. You're the one with the hypothesis, it's up to you to provide some evidence or even some other credible viewpoints that back up your argument, otherwise it won't be generally accepted. See also The Flat Earth Society, Ghost Hunters and those that believe the moon landings were faked.
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.
Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?
Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.
You're missing the point. You're the one with the hypothesis, it's up to you to provide some evidence or even some other credible viewpoints that back up your argument, otherwise it won't be generally accepted. See also The Flat Earth Society, Ghost Hunters and those that believe the moon landings were faked.
Your last paragraph is so wierd 😂
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.
Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?
Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.
You're missing the point. You're the one with the hypothesis, it's up to you to provide some evidence or even some other credible viewpoints that back up your argument, otherwise it won't be generally accepted. See also The Flat Earth Society, Ghost Hunters and those that believe the moon landings were faked.
Your last paragraph is so wierd 😂
Not really. All the groups mentioned advance crackpot theories and when asked for the reasoning behind their assertion fall back on "prove I'm wrong then".
Apart from BC54s data about the womens game injuries last season no one else has really provided much data to show me there isnt a chance all im hearing is opinions not facts
Its pointless carrying this topic ive said my bit and i stand by it that there could be a chance until i see solid evidence that its impossible. None of us know for sure.Lets just move on im sure everyone is fed up of the last few pages!
Just hope kams doing ok mentally. Its so heart breaking 💔
he was right thoughIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.
Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.
How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence
Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor
Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be
Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect
Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)
Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link
No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.
Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?
Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.
You're missing the point. You're the one with the hypothesis, it's up to you to provide some evidence or even some other credible viewpoints that back up your argument, otherwise it won't be generally accepted. See also The Flat Earth Society, Ghost Hunters and those that believe the moon landings were faked.
Your last paragraph is so wierd 😂
Not really. All the groups mentioned advance crackpot theories and when asked for the reasoning behind their assertion fall back on "prove I'm wrong then".
Ive never heard of any of them groups yet you have so im not sure how u can call me a crackpot 😂
Not sure what on earth this has to do with our great club
Any chance of ending the quotathon?
Villa have used 27 players in the Premier League this season, which is about average and similar to United and Spurs, but their outfield players have played more minutes in all competitions and been rotated less - the least in the Premier League in fact.
Outfield players to have played more than 1,800 minutes in 2023-24
Aston Villa (10) John McGinn (2,884), Ezri Konsa (2,823), Douglas Luiz (2,759), Ollie Watkins (2,711), Boubacar Kamara (2,410), Matty Cash (2,239), Moussa Diaby (2,055), Lucas Digne (2,022), Pau Torres (1,831), Leon Bailey (1,810)
Surely this is an Emery legacy issueIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard ofWell, actually, it isn't.
Last season, Arsenal Women suffered four ACL injuries within six months from November 2022 to May 2023 being, in chronological order: Beth Mead, Vivianne Miedema, Leah Williamson and Laura Wienroither.
Surely this is an Emery legacy issueIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard ofWell, actually, it isn't.
Last season, Arsenal Women suffered four ACL injuries within six months from November 2022 to May 2023 being, in chronological order: Beth Mead, Vivianne Miedema, Leah Williamson and Laura Wienroither.
Tough on Kamara. I think we can cope though and may even garner more points.I think this is only the second time I've seen the word "garner" in written format.The other was by Mervyn Peake.Bravo ,sir!
The real question is what Covid vaccine did our boys get and was it the same as Real Madrid / Arsenal women?
The real question is what Covid vaccine did our boys get and was it the same as Real Madrid / Arsenal women?
I haven't had the jab since 2021, and I haven't suffered any injuries in that time. Just saying.
Losing Kamara is arguably the worst injury of the three knee injuries as we have a replacement for Mings in Torres and JJ and Tielemans for Buendia. We don't have a natural replacement for Bouba other than an untried Tim. Massive blow this.
Losing Kamara is arguably the worst injury of the three knee injuries as we have a replacement for Mings in Torres and JJ and Tielemans for Buendia. We don't have a natural replacement for Bouba other than an untried Tim. Massive blow this.
It is a disaster, but it’s up to us to come through adversity.
Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
UTV.
How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.I didn’t see the incident that led to Kamara’s injury yesterday, and my recollection is that Buendia’s injury happened in training, so I don’t think we know exactly how that happened. However, Mings’s injury happened completely innocuously, and didn’t have anything to do with tackling in a certain way, or anything else that could be coached.
He simply slips while turning to chase an opponent....no tackling involved.How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.I didn’t see the incident that led to Kamara’s injury yesterday, and my recollection is that Buendia’s injury happened in training, so I don’t think we know exactly how that happened. However, Mings’s injury happened completely innocuously, and didn’t have anything to do with tackling in a certain way, or anything else that could be coached.
Anyway, I think the general consensus is that your theory probably is a conspiracy theory.
Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
UTV.
Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
UTV.
Were you being managed by Unai Emery at the time by any chance?
Yes. It was all his fault.Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
UTV.
Were you being managed by Unai Emery at the time by any chance?
Doubt Emery will be starring irogbunam , it will be Tielemans in and a reshuffle with McGinn going deeper. Emery doesn't really play the youngsters other than fleetingly
Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
UTV.
I think we're on to something.Any chance of ending the quotathon?I once did my ACL in B&Q shopping for MDF.
UTV.
I did mine after a BBQ whilst having a dads versus kids kick about. My brain told my legs that they can still do it! sadly, my legs disagreed.
Seems too coincidental that the letters B and Q feature in both of these incidents, perhaps that’s the cause.
I cant say one way or the other whether Tim will start on Saturday, but the reasons why he should for me are far longer than the why not;
1)You don't disrupt McGinn by denying us his pressing and ball carrying in wide channels.
2) It's Tim's position
3) Same height as Kamara and he's mobile like Kamara too
4) 30+ games of 2nd division mens football, with both a successful and then struggling side under pressure
4) We ought to monopolise possession in the next 3 games so he'd get a 3 game run up to Spurs
5) We need to continue to showcase more of our youngsters for financial reasons. If Tim grabs his chance, then we have a player to keep or a player to sell that would generate a lot of money on the FFP score.
I cant say one way or the other whether Tim will start on Saturday, but the reasons why he should for me are far longer than the why not;He's also had some Premier league minutes, with a full game against Burnley under the Scouse Fraud.
1)You don't disrupt McGinn by denying us his pressing and ball carrying in wide channels.
2) It's Tim's position
3) Same height as Kamara and he's mobile like Kamara too
4) 30+ games of 2nd division mens football, with both a successful and then struggling side under pressure
4) We ought to monopolise possession in the next 3 games so he'd get a 3 game run up to Spurs
5) We need to continue to showcase more of our youngsters for financial reasons. If Tim grabs his chance, then we have a player to keep or a player to sell that would generate a lot of money on the FFP score.
I cant say one way or the other whether Tim will start on Saturday, but the reasons why he should for me are far longer than the why not;
1)You don't disrupt McGinn by denying us his pressing and ball carrying in wide channels.
2) It's Tim's position
3) Same height as Kamara and he's mobile like Kamara too
4) 30+ games of 2nd division mens football, with both a successful and then struggling side under pressure
4) We ought to monopolise possession in the next 3 games so he'd get a 3 game run up to Spurs
5) We need to continue to showcase more of our youngsters for financial reasons. If Tim grabs his chance, then we have a player to keep or a player to sell that would generate a lot of money on the FFP score.
I didn't like the despair that had crept into your posts after the Chelsea game. It's reassuring to have you back being positive (to the point of lunacy!)
There might not be a thing, you don't know, there is no evidence to support the thing that you don't know whether it exists or not...this is absolutely the core ingredients needed to argue passionately and with no little emotion about until at least Thursday when we can start arguing about something else.And dismissing that a 'thing' could exist just because you don't know what it is seesms equally naive to me
I cant say one way or the other whether Tim will start on Saturday, but the reasons why he should for me are far longer than the why not;
1)You don't disrupt McGinn by denying us his pressing and ball carrying in wide channels.
2) It's Tim's position
3) Same height as Kamara and he's mobile like Kamara too
4) 30+ games of 2nd division mens football, with both a successful and then struggling side under pressure
4) We ought to monopolise possession in the next 3 games so he'd get a 3 game run up to Spurs
5) We need to continue to showcase more of our youngsters for financial reasons. If Tim grabs his chance, then we have a player to keep or a player to sell that would generate a lot of money on the FFP score.
There might not be a thing, you don't know, there is no evidence to support the thing that you don't know whether it exists or not...this is absolutely the core ingredients needed to argue passionately and with no little emotion about until at least Thursday when we can start arguing about something else.And dismissing that a 'thing' could exist just because you don't know what it is seesms equally naive to me
There might not be a thing, you don't know, there is no evidence to support the thing that you don't know whether it exists or not...this is absolutely the core ingredients needed to argue passionately and with no little emotion about until at least Thursday when we can start arguing about something else.And dismissing that a 'thing' could exist just because you don't know what it is seesms equally naive to me
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
I hope the optimism for Tim bears out, it is a colossal ask. I’ll defer to others who have seen more of him than me, but just thinking of the academy how many players have we had come through in recent times who have become meaningful first team players for Villa? Grealish is the stand out clearly, but I struggle with others. Are there any recently? Weimann and Albrighton did but we were in a bad place, Gabby clearly a bit further back.
We’re at a different level now and expecting Tim to come in at a level to sustain a Champions League push is a huge ask. Good luck to him, I really hope he nails it, but he’ll be having to buck the trend.
I hope the optimism for Tim bears out, it is a colossal ask. I’ll defer to others who have seen more of him than me, but just thinking of the academy how many players have we had come through in recent times who have become meaningful first team players for Villa? Grealish is the stand out clearly, but I struggle with others. Are there any recently? Weimann and Albrighton did but we were in a bad place, Gabby clearly a bit further back.
We’re at a different level now and expecting Tim to come in at a level to sustain a Champions League push is a huge ask. Good luck to him, I really hope he nails it, but he’ll be having to buck the trend.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Eh ? 🤔
Prove god doesnt exist
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
If Tim doesn’t get game time against Fulham, Forest or Luton I don’t know when he will.
I can't see Emery dropping Tim straight into the action, but he'll have to start introducing him as a sub a bit more often, and for longer.Yeah I think this is what happens - I can’t see him giving him a start until he’s done a few 30 min stints
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Eh ? 🤔
Prove god doesnt exist
The difference is, I haven't just been telling everyone how he does.
You, on the other hand:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
seem quite positive this is about our training.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Eh ? 🤔
Prove god doesnt exist
The difference is, I haven't just been telling everyone how he does.
You, on the other hand:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
seem quite positive this is about our training.
The key word "assume"
Definition of assume - suppose to be the case without proof
So how have i been telling everyone exactly based on what you have just quited paulie ?? Oh dear
So all i have done is ask the question not "told" anyone or enforced it on anyone
If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
Let's be honest, the main reason Tim I is back in the squad is to save money.https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/aston-villa/2024/01/25/tim-iroegbunam-to-get-aston-villa-chance-after-leander-dendoncker-exit/
Dendoncker is now off the wage bill and Tim was the cost effective back up.
I suspect we'll see Dougie and McGinn interchanging in the role, with Tim getting minutes off the bench
If we are going to maintain a push for CL, every point counts, can't see UE starting Tim I.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Eh ? 🤔
Prove god doesnt exist
The difference is, I haven't just been telling everyone how he does.
You, on the other hand:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
seem quite positive this is about our training.
The key word "assume"
Definition of assume - suppose to be the case without proof
So how have i been telling everyone exactly based on what you have just quited paulie ?? Oh dear
I know what it means, people are pointing out that:
1. The thing you are "supposing to be the case" is absolute batshit.
2. You are saying 'we' have 'got to start assuming' this, which is enrolling everyone else in your batshit theories.
"We've got to start assuming that the reason Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because of the puppy-stamping thing".So all i have done is ask the question not "told" anyone or enforced it on anyone
No, no you haven't just asked the question, you've presented it as more than that, you said:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
And that's why people think you're being stupid.
And that's also the end of my involvement in this, it's up to you if you understand it or not. it's Monday morning and I've already spent far more of my week on this sort of shit than I would like to.
This argument is all a little bit silly.
Where there is a small increase in the risk of ACL injuries is if players are training through fatigue but with no evidence that players are being overworked in training that's hard to see as the problem, especially given the timing of the Buendia and Mings injuries. I don't think it's fair or reasonable to blame the club medical staff for any of these, we've just had a horrible year for injuries and sometimes that's all there is to it.
If it were a training issue we'd have seen far more short-term soft tissue injuries than we have, with Calf halmstring injuries the most common sign of overtraining in sports like football. On top of that the news out of the club about the changes Emery has made the players have spoken about mental and tactical preperation and individual focus areas for improvement. McGinn mentioned how much fitter he is but also said that a big part of that was him changing his habits away from the club and in particular how he acted between the end of last season and pre-season.
Real Madrid have had three this season, including their keeper. One happened in pre-season, one in the first match and then one last month. So Emery must have been moonlighting at Real at some point over the summer.
I think this is just silly. Im pretty sure calling someone stupid is against the site rules so i suggest you apologise to me as i havent been rude to you so not sure why you feel the need to ger personal. We are just having a debate thats all so relax.
I havent enforced anyone or said oh yeah the ACLs are 100% caused by what villa or emery is doing just asking the question as one ACL or maybe two but three ?? Yyou can't prove it isnt the case just like I can't prove it. Thats fundamentally the facts of the situation. All we can do is speculate
Real Madrid have had three this season, including their keeper. One happened in pre-season, one in the first match and then one last month. So Emery must have been moonlighting at Real at some point over the summer.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
The conspiracy theory I'm posting is that it isn't Emery who is the bad luck merchant but our very own Demitri. This season he posted once on Sept 20th, we then lose the next match on Sept 21st. Then starts posting with regularity on Dec 20th and our season has been riding off the tracks since then.
Prove it isn't that.
I hope the optimism for Tim bears out, it is a colossal ask. I’ll defer to others who have seen more of him than me, but just thinking of the academy how many players have we had come through in recent times who have become meaningful first team players for Villa? Grealish is the stand out clearly, but I struggle with others. Are there any recently? Weimann and Albrighton did but we were in a bad place, Gabby clearly a bit further back.
We’re at a different level now and expecting Tim to come in at a level to sustain a Champions League push is a huge ask. Good luck to him, I really hope he nails it, but he’ll be having to buck the trend.
Ramsey.
Dr rajpal brar speculates kamara will be out for 7-9 months with him not being 100% until 18 months
So we at best will see him back around September/october time. But with no pre season either you would imagine December time.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
The conspiracy theory I'm posting is that it isn't Emery who is the bad luck merchant but our very own Demitri. This season he posted once on Sept 20th, we then lose the next match on Sept 21st. Then starts posting with regularity on Dec 20th and our season has been riding off the tracks since then.
Prove it isn't that.
Dr rajpal brar speculates kamara will be out for 7-9 months with him not being 100% until 18 months
So we at best will see him back around September/october time. But with no pre season either you would imagine December time.
Sounds like nonsense to me. I can believe the first part, but based on any ACL’s I’ve seen in football I’ve never seen it take another 9 months post recovery to be fit again.
Chucking in a kid into a faultering team and expecting results to upturn is a massive ask. Your gambling for an impact like Yacuba Cilla. Kamara is one of the spine, a kid coming in for say Cash you could make a case for but centre mid in the premier league will be a baptism of fire. I'd be getting the donk back from loan. If you watched the ManU game on Sun they had a similar situation a young kid playing Defensive Mid. Manioo had great feet but allowed Villa to bomb through the centre all game. First half the ammount of space in front of Magiure and Varane was laughable, I just thought it was a matter of time before we scores.
Regarding the number of ACL's it does seem too many to be bad luck, perhaps there is a new piece of equipment at bodymore heath from last summer? The Knee buster.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Eh ? 🤔
Prove god doesnt exist
The difference is, I haven't just been telling everyone how he does.
You, on the other hand:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
seem quite positive this is about our training.
The key word "assume"
Definition of assume - suppose to be the case without proof
So how have i been telling everyone exactly based on what you have just quited paulie ?? Oh dear
I know what it means, people are pointing out that:
1. The thing you are "supposing to be the case" is absolute batshit.
2. You are saying 'we' have 'got to start assuming' this, which is enrolling everyone else in your batshit theories.
"We've got to start assuming that the reason Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because of the puppy-stamping thing".So all i have done is ask the question not "told" anyone or enforced it on anyone
No, no you haven't just asked the question, you've presented it as more than that, you said:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
And that's why people think you're being stupid.
And that's also the end of my involvement in this, it's up to you if you understand it or not. it's Monday morning and I've already spent far more of my week on this sort of shit than I would like to.
I think this is just silly. Im pretty sure calling someone stupid is against the site rules so i suggest you apologise to me as i havent been rude to you so not sure why you feel the need to ger personal. We are just having a debate thats all so relax.
I havent enforced anyone or said oh yeah the ACLs are 100% caused by what villa or emery is doing just asking the question as one ACL or maybe two but three ?? Yyou can't prove it isnt the case just like I can't prove it. Thats fundamentally the facts of the situation. All we can do is speculate
If Tim is good enough now is the time to play him and find out. He’ll be 21 in June so hardly a kid.
Cole Palmer is a similar age and has been Chelsea’s best player this season.
We haven't seen enough of Iroegbunam to really know whether he can step in or not, I'd guess in training, Emery may start using him more and looking to see if he 'gets it' about the system and what's expected of him.
Emery has often commented about players adapting to his methods, Diaby last week was the latest one he mentioned in that regard.
So, Kamara is pretty unique, and I'd imagine we may consider a system change rather than expecting one player to step into his shoes.
Pretty terrible news - can see Tielemans doing a job as DM until we work out how to play without him. Hope I'm not assuming too much.
We haven't seen enough of Iroegbunam to really know whether he can step in or not, I'd guess in training, Emery may start using him more and looking to see if he 'gets it' about the system and what's expected of him.
Emery has often commented about players adapting to his methods, Diaby last week was the latest one he mentioned in that regard.
So, Kamara is pretty unique, and I'd imagine we may consider a system change rather than expecting one player to step into his shoes.
I think that's a good idea, but it does seem with Unai that it's 4-4-2 or bust. Of course there's flexibility within that, but I'd go with a proper 4-3-3 now, something like:
Emi
Cash Carlos Torres Digne/Moreno
McGinn Luiz Tielemans
Bailey/Diaby Watkins Ramsey
That's still a very, very good team. Our problem is we've basically reverted to 1981 era football, with a first 11 and two subs.
Pretty terrible news - can see Tielemans doing a job as DM until we work out how to play without him. Hope I'm not assuming too much.
I can't, keep him further forward where his final pass can work and his lack of tackle doesn't endanger us as much.
I’m almost certain it will be the tried, tested and failed format of mcginn playing as a defensive midfielder instead.Failed? Look at our results when he played there at the end of last season.
Exactly what i was alluding to yesterday that none of us know for sure but i was told to prove that the training is causing the ACL injuries and when i said prove its not the same posters couldnt.
"I think the real reason Jurgen Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because the local police have had a word about his growing obsession with stamping puppies to death, and they've suggested it'd be for the best if he left the country."
Prove it isn't that.
Eh ? 🤔
Prove god doesnt exist
The difference is, I haven't just been telling everyone how he does.
You, on the other hand:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
seem quite positive this is about our training.
The key word "assume"
Definition of assume - suppose to be the case without proof
So how have i been telling everyone exactly based on what you have just quited paulie ?? Oh dear
I know what it means, people are pointing out that:
1. The thing you are "supposing to be the case" is absolute batshit.
2. You are saying 'we' have 'got to start assuming' this, which is enrolling everyone else in your batshit theories.
"We've got to start assuming that the reason Klopp is leaving Liverpool is because of the puppy-stamping thing".So all i have done is ask the question not "told" anyone or enforced it on anyone
No, no you haven't just asked the question, you've presented it as more than that, you said:QuoteIf thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of
And that's why people think you're being stupid.
And that's also the end of my involvement in this, it's up to you if you understand it or not. it's Monday morning and I've already spent far more of my week on this sort of shit than I would like to.
I think this is just silly. Im pretty sure calling someone stupid is against the site rules so i suggest you apologise to me as i havent been rude to you so not sure why you feel the need to ger personal. We are just having a debate thats all so relax.
I havent enforced anyone or said oh yeah the ACLs are 100% caused by what villa or emery is doing just asking the question as one ACL or maybe two but three ?? Yyou can't prove it isnt the case just like I can't prove it. Thats fundamentally the facts of the situation. All we can do is speculate
Tell you what, why don’t you stop making wild arsed guesses or what you call assumptions and speculation and then people won’t think you’re being daft. Simple really.
I'm not sure Drummond. Back then, Ings was at least useful as a sub coming on, and is better than the no striker option we have now.
How about no. Thia isnt the jon crofts forum so ill post what i like thanks. If anything your post is daft as adds nothing to the conversation
Back on subject
Hopefully mingsy and emi can support kamara on the long road to recovery. Come on kam you got this
How about no. Thia isnt the jon crofts forum so ill post what i like thanks. If anything your post is daft as adds nothing to the conversation
Back on subject
Hopefully mingsy and emi can support kamara on the long road to recovery. Come on kam you got this
You commented about site rules and Jon, as a moderator, responded to you doing it.
And that's why people think you're being stupid.
For clarity Demitri, I did not “call you stupid”, I said:QuoteAnd that's why people think you're being stupid.
If you can’t tell the difference between the above and “calling you stupid” then I give up.
I think you've all missed the point.
Risso 433 is an excellent idea.
I think you've all missed the point.
Risso 433 is an excellent idea.
I'm not against it but Unai seems to have shown commitment to the 442, has worked in his way with it and trusts it always as the best way to connect with the supporters.
How about no. Thia isnt the jon crofts forum so ill post what i like thanks. If anything your post is daft as adds nothing to the conversation
Back on subject
Hopefully mingsy and emi can support kamara on the long road to recovery. Come on kam you got this
You commented about site rules and Jon, as a moderator, responded to you doing it.
EDIT read pist wrong. If you want us to have a chat jon PM me. Im not interested in a fall out we are all villa fans after all.
Trying to look for the positives:And he will return fresh for Champions League knockout stage. What's not to like?
1. We did ok without Kamara for most of March and April last year. Though we did have Mings, Buendia and an in-form Ramsey.
2. No-one will be buying him in the summer.
EDIT read pist wrong.
Deleted.makes sense
Kamara fulfills a critical role as a link and cover in the MF, his understanding with Doug has been very important.
We do not really have any one to be the other in the double pivot , Tielemans , Ramsey and SJM are not the answer.
I can see some merit in a 4 3 3 that becomes 4 5 1 without the ball
Bailey -SJM -Tielemans -Doug -Ramsey behind Watkins.
The problem is our rotation options are
Diaby - has been awful for months
Zaniolio - has not shown that he is good enough at this Level
Tim- untried
Rogers see above
Duran- as above
We are 1 injury away from needing snookers.
This is without Torres and Konsa until we don’t know when.
So I can see Cash Moreno Digne playing wide MF and maybe even going 3 at the back.
The chances of this squad maintaining a top 5 position with these options I think is now unlikely.
Dougie was half the player last time Kamara missed a few games.I think Kamara compliments Dougie and without him he looks a bit exposed.
I hope he doesn’t fade again, we can’t afford to lose him as well.
We will know on Saturday what Unai plans to do about losing Kamara. If he can still pull off a minor miracle and qualify for CL it will be a brilliant achievement. I expect Monchi and co will be in full overdrive now to fix the problem. The summer transfer window will be very interesting.Dougie was half the player last time Kamara missed a few games.I think Kamara compliments Dougie and without him he looks a bit exposed.
I hope he doesn’t fade again, we can’t afford to lose him as well.
Kamara is excellent at what he does, Tielemans doesn’t have the mobility and covering sense.
Dougie was half the player last time Kamara missed a few games.Exactly this!
I hope he doesn’t fade again, we can’t afford to lose him as well.
Time for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team.The pitches?. Guessing most if not all the Premier league have the ‘magic Rooney weave’ jobs which keeps them like a billiard table all season. Bet the training pitches are the same.
Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.
Dougie was half the player last time Kamara missed a few games.
I hope he doesn’t fade again, we can’t afford to lose him as well.
My prediction is youri will play the kamara role and midfield of luiz JJ and mcginn. Probably bailey and watkins
Time for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team.You’re the doctor so you tell us?
Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.
Time for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team.You’re the doctor so you tell us?
Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.
Time for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team.You’re the doctor so you tell us?
Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.
Think you'd need a specialist from the Clinical Musculoskeletal Assessment Team for that one. I specialise in more esoteric sciences. It must be an increasing issue though, half the England Women's team were out with ACLs, we've got 3 inside 7 months, Fofana and Arsenal's Timber fell to the same thing within the first month or so... Rico Henry at Brentford. Just been through the PL injury list and there's 5 further confirmed ACLs, 1 confirmed MCL and 2 unnamed long term knees injuries. So 11 ACLs already this season, not this calendar year.
Currently still off work with an undiagnosed shoulder injury so have plenty of time and empathy for those suffering with joint issues.
Time for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team.You’re the doctor so you tell us?
Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.
Think you'd need a specialist from the Clinical Musculoskeletal Assessment Team for that one. I specialise in more esoteric sciences. It must be an increasing issue though, half the England Women's team were out with ACLs, we've got 3 inside 7 months, Fofana and Arsenal's Timber fell to the same thing within the first month or so... Rico Henry at Brentford. Just been through the PL injury list and there's 5 further confirmed ACLs, 1 confirmed MCL and 2 unnamed long term knees injuries. So 11 ACLs already this season, not this calendar year.
Currently still off work with an undiagnosed shoulder injury so have plenty of time and empathy for those suffering with joint issues.
ACL injuries are generally down to excessive lateral hyperextension (or the knee bending sideways, in or out). Traditionally the football version of that is the Wesley scenario where a player has a planted foot and takes a heavy impact near their knee.
What we're seeing more recently is far more occurances without the impact element so it's created by a shift in the centre of gravity which means the lower leg isn't supporting the bodt weight above and that creates the force instead.
No one fully understands why this is happening (and specifically why it's so much more common in the womens game) but, for me, the 3 main things we need to look at are the boots, the pitches and dietary changes. I don't claim to have anytihng like enough knowledge to pick one or specify why I see those as the key areas but they are the 3 things that could be involved which have seen massive changes in the last 20-30 years.
Diet seems the least likely of those to me. Diets are much more closely controlled and designed to aid performance. Boots are getting lighter and the changes in stud shape was part of the issue with the Great Metatarsal Debacle of the early 2000s. Potentially training levels and techniques have changed and might be an influence. It’s certainly not increased contact in on field challenges, I think that’s safe to say.
..the amount of games too maybe?
But then you would see the problem across the board, and not just localised to one club. And all 3 have happened at different locations.
Then how have there only been 4/5 ACL injuries in the last 2 seasons but we've had 3, 2 of which before a heavy fixture schedule has even started.
I think the most boring and likely explanation is probably just bad luck.
Then how have there only been 4/5 ACL injuries in the last 2 seasons but we've had 3, 2 of which before a heavy fixture schedule has even started.
I think the most boring and likely explanation is probably just bad luck.
Real Madrid have had 3 this year. Arsenal have 2. There have been about 10 in the WSL.
All of this has already been mentioned on this thread.
I agree that the fact that a lot of those were early in the season (when watering of pitches is far more common) means training is less likely to be the issue.
I've not fact checked it, but apparently the ACL is 4 centimetres long, takes 2000 Newtons of force to fuck up, and an Italian study of some 140ish cases showed that over half of cases involve physical contact, but often even something like shoulder to shoulder.Yeah - and the Villa provided data for 139 of them
Have we not had this type of pitch for a while, though? I don't see why anybody's looking for reasons beyond us being cursed, frankly.
Then how have there only been 4/5 ACL injuries in the last 2 seasons but we've had 3, 2 of which before a heavy fixture schedule has even started.
I think the most boring and likely explanation is probably just bad luck.
Real Madrid have had 3 this year. Arsenal have 2. There have been about 10 in the WSL.
All of this has already been mentioned on this thread.
I agree that the fact that a lot of those were early in the season (when watering of pitches is far more common) means training is less likely to be the issue.
The prevalence of ACL injuries in the women's game makes that a separate discussion for me. A discussion that I've seen suggestions made of menstrual cycle and lack of strength training.
Have we not had this type of pitch for a while, though? I don't see why anybody's looking for reasons beyond us being cursed, frankly.
It's occurring across the whole division, I've not looked at the stats in the lower leagues. A jump of 300% in ACL injuries is a hell of a coincidence isn't it?Then how have there only been 4/5 ACL injuries in the last 2 seasons but we've had 3, 2 of which before a heavy fixture schedule has even started.
I think the most boring and likely explanation is probably just bad luck.
Real Madrid have had 3 this year. Arsenal have 2. There have been about 10 in the WSL.
All of this has already been mentioned on this thread.
I agree that the fact that a lot of those were early in the season (when watering of pitches is far more common) means training is less likely to be the issue.
The prevalence of ACL injuries in the women's game makes that a separate discussion for me. A discussion that I've seen suggestions made of menstrual cycle and lack of strength training.
That's one of the most sexist and reductive comments I've seen of the women's game. Whatever podcast you've been listening to is frankly horrendous.
If that's true then I apologise but it does sound like the type od sound byte churned out by sports pundits to denigrate the women's game. My bad.
Having just done some reading it's something of a leap to suggest that menstruation is a direct cause of ACL injuries. Women are more susceptible to Joint injuries in general and that using a hormonal contraceptive may help reduce that increased risk. Most of the 7 studies conducted globally are rated poor to fair and are in the very early stages. The largest study was of less than 70k participants.
A few years ago, when the WSL gathered momentum, ACL injuries began to bite, and I read a doctor’s view on “why?. First up, he said his theory needed far more analysis, but he posited that women have wider hips than men and thus the thigh bone connects with the knee at a different angle to men, and so put extra pressure on the ligaments.
My guess as a fully qualified IT person is that strain through many more games at a greater speed* is a contributing factor.
* I watched our European Cup the other day and was struck how mush slower it was than the modern game, men and women.
A few years ago, when the WSL gathered momentum, ACL injuries began to bite, and I read a doctor’s view on “why?. First up, he said his theory needed far more analysis, but he posited that women have wider hips than men and thus the thigh bone connects with the knee at a different angle to men, and so put extra pressure on the ligaments.
Emery was asked about Tim Iroegbunam replacing Kamara and was at his most animated: "I decided to let Dendoncker leave. Tim has to be ready and he has to be ready being demanding, saying 'it's my time, now I am here!' I don't know if he is going to, but I believe in him."
Tanswell:QuoteEmery was asked about Tim Iroegbunam replacing Kamara and was at his most animated: "I decided to let Dendoncker leave. Tim has to be ready and he has to be ready being demanding, saying 'it's my time, now I am here!' I don't know if he is going to, but I believe in him."
I hope he is being demanding. Looks like this could be a big opportunity
He wisely avoided pronouncing Tim's surname in the presser.
Is it actually easy to say? I think a Sky commentator recently called him "I-roo-bunum" which seems achievable for all of us in this mixed-up world.
He wisely avoided pronouncing Tim's surname in the presser.
Is it actually easy to say? I think a Sky commentator recently called him "I-roo-bunum" which seems achievable for all of us in this mixed-up world.
He wisely avoided pronouncing Tim's surname in the presser.
Is it actually easy to say? I think a Sky commentator recently called him "I-roo-bunum" which seems achievable for all of us in this mixed-up world.
I'd call him Villa Tim but....
He wisely avoided pronouncing Tim's surname in the presser.
Is it actually easy to say? I think a Sky commentator recently called him "I-roo-bunum" which seems achievable for all of us in this mixed-up world.
I'd call him Villa Tim but....
He can count to 5?
WTF is he watching?
WTF is he watching?
Makes me admire the professionalism, to be honest.
I dislocated my knee almost nine years ago now, and I haven't run, kicked a ball, or even walked properly since. I'm just too worried about it giving in again.
Even walking down steps, I go left foot on every step, because I don't want to risk putting pressure on my right and again seeing my leg at a hideous angle with my kneecap off to the side.
WTF is he watching?
Out until September/October.
I wonder if the heavy watering of pitches is contributing to these injuries. Most, if not all seem to occur when a foot goes from under a player and not as a direct result of a tackle.
Out until September/October.
I wonder if the heavy watering of pitches is contributing to these injuries. Most, if not all seem to occur when a foot goes from under a player and not as a direct result of a tackle.
Hard to see that being the issue when back in the 70s and 80s and before pitches were nowhere near the standard they are now as around this time they were mainly grass-less mud heaps. However, the technology that keeps them as such.. turf intertwined with plastic fibers might have some impact. Maybe we're just unlucky.
WTF is he watching?
I wonder if the heavy watering of pitches is contributing to these injuries. Most, if not all seem to occur when a foot goes from under a player and not as a direct result of a tackle.
No, but there are a lot of ACL injuries at other clubs too.I wonder if the heavy watering of pitches is contributing to these injuries. Most, if not all seem to occur when a foot goes from under a player and not as a direct result of a tackle.
Hard to see that being the issue when back in the 70s and 80s and before pitches were nowhere near the standard they are now as around this time they were mainly grass-less mud heaps. However, the technology that keeps them as such.. turf intertwined with plastic fibers might have some impact. Maybe we're just unlucky.
We're not doing anything radically different to anyone else, and our ACL injuries this season happened on three different pitches. I think we've just been VERY unlucky. To be fair, the arrival of Pau and Diaby helped mitigate the loss of Mings and Buendia, but the loss of Bouba is a much more significant hit to the way we play.
Something that seems like it shouldn't be true (but is), Kamara is still young enough that he was eligible for Premier League Young Player Of The Season this year.
And more importantly, the last few months have shown just how important he is to how we play.
In the first half of the season, I often thought how we seemed to reflect Kamara's performance as a team: when he played well we played well, and when he played badly so did we. Without him we've looked good far less often, Doug in particular looks to have shouldered too great a burden, and the compounding loss of Tielemans has been the ultimate kicker.
Mentioned before that Ndidi on a free wouldn't be a terrible idea. Only 27, but loads of experience, knows his way around the league and will be settled and ready to go on day one.
Wouldn't be close to our first-choice midfield, but if he'd been in our squad this season he'd have easily racked up 25 games.
Mentioned before that Ndidi on a free wouldn't be a terrible idea. Only 27, but loads of experience, knows his way around the league and will be settled and ready to go on day one.
Wouldn't be close to our first-choice midfield, but if he'd been in our squad this season he'd have easily racked up 25 games.
That is a decent shout.
As a squad player, on a free, he would be a decent pick up.
Mentioned before that Ndidi on a free wouldn't be a terrible idea. Only 27, but loads of experience, knows his way around the league and will be settled and ready to go on day one.
Wouldn't be close to our first-choice midfield, but if he'd been in our squad this season he'd have easily racked up 25 games.
That is a decent shout.
As a squad player, on a free, he would be a decent pick up.
Noooooooo
Mentioned before that Ndidi on a free wouldn't be a terrible idea. Only 27, but loads of experience, knows his way around the league and will be settled and ready to go on day one.
Wouldn't be close to our first-choice midfield, but if he'd been in our squad this season he'd have easily racked up 25 games.
That is a decent shout.
As a squad player, on a free, he would be a decent pick up.
Noooooooo
Not a fan of the player or choice of words?
Mentioned before that Ndidi on a free wouldn't be a terrible idea. Only 27, but loads of experience, knows his way around the league and will be settled and ready to go on day one.
Wouldn't be close to our first-choice midfield, but if he'd been in our squad this season he'd have easily racked up 25 games.
That is a decent shout.
As a squad player, on a free, he would be a decent pick up.
Noooooooo
Not a fan of the player or choice of words?
I associate it with American Sports Draft Speak, but I could be very wrong.
Aw mate! And I thought you were alright!
Aw mate! And I thought you were alright!
Its a fascinating sport... 😉
Aw mate! And I thought you were alright!
Its a fascinating sport... 😉
To be fair I like Aussie Rules, so nobody's perfect.
Following on from various psost here re how Kamara's absence has affected ourresults, I've looked at all our Prem games to date to see how we did with and without him.
We played 23 games up to him being subbed off in against ManU in the 65th minute, it was 1-1 at the time, but we lost to an 86th minute goal.
And we've played 12 games (to date without him)
Discounting the ManU game
WITH KAMARA WITHOUT KAMARA
P23 W14 D4 L5 F49 A30 P12 W6 D3 L3 F23 A 21
Win rate 60.9% Win rate 50%
Points per game 2.0 Points per game 1.75
Scored 2.13 per game Scored 1.92 per game
Conceded 1.30 per game Conceded 1.75 per game
6 clean sheets- 26.1% Games with clean sheets: 2 - 16.7%
Games with only 1 conceded: 10 - 43.5% Games where we only conceded 1 goal: 4 - 16.7%
WITHOUT KAMARA
P12 W6 D3 L3
Win rate 50%
Points per game 1.75
Goals per game
Scored 2.00
Conceded 1.75
Was his injury a watershed moment?
Other players have missed some games and I have a feeling that Torres being absent has also affected us negatively, but losing Kamara affected our ability to defend AND attack - he screened the back 4 and allowed Dougie and Meatball to get forward.
We scored more and conceded fewer goals per game with him, kept more clean sheets and earned more points per game.
If we'd continued the same run of form since his injury as before (achievingh the same points per game average), we'd be 3 points better off. 4th place secured and who knows what difference he'd have made in the UECL?
Having said all that I've said, the game's not played on a spreadsheet and we are where we are.
C'mon Agent Grealish v Spurs!!
Aw mate! And I thought you were alright!
Its a fascinating sport... 😉
To be fair I like Aussie Rules, so nobody's perfect.
Aw mate! And I thought you were alright!
Its a fascinating sport... 😉
To be fair I like Aussie Rules, so nobody's perfect.
I gave that a go, but just couldn't watch it after a few matches...
Does social class exist in Australia because the Aussie Rules sports seems quite unique to them it must be set up as anti rugby brigade.
Does social class exist in Australia because the Aussie Rules sports seems quite unique to them it must be set up as anti rugby brigade.
Very big question there Footy (a word which, in Australia, refers to Aussie rules).
My understanding is that Australians like the myth of their society being 'classless' but that in practice that's obviously not true. In sport however they do seem to all come together, with the exception of rugby where the two codes are a bit more divided (league is working class, union is upper).
How about calling Kamara Olympus ? Or Cannon ?
Does social class exist in Australia because the Aussie Rules sports seems quite unique to them it must be set up as anti rugby brigade.
How about calling Kamara Olympus ? Or Cannon ?
Does social class exist in Australia because the Aussie Rules sports seems quite unique to them it must be set up as anti rugby brigade.
Very big question there Footy (a word which, in Australia, refers to Aussie rules).
My understanding is that Australians like the myth of their society being 'classless' but that in practice that's obviously not true. In sport however they do seem to all come together, with the exception of rugby where the two codes are a bit more divided (league is working class, union is upper).
Hark at this bloody bogan!
Does social class exist in Australia because the Aussie Rules sports seems quite unique to them it must be set up as anti rugby brigade.
Very big question there Footy (a word which, in Australia, refers to Aussie rules).
My understanding is that Australians like the myth of their society being 'classless' but that in practice that's obviously not true. In sport however they do seem to all come together, with the exception of rugby where the two codes are a bit more divided (league is working class, union is upper).
Hark at this bloody bogan!
It's true, I'm just some c**t who genuinely likes the horrible, rip-off, toothache-inducing, corporate-designed Champions League anthem. 'Bogan' is being kind.
This is the main injury which caused results to drop off at the end of last season. We're in a better position to cover him now, but still need him back ASAP.
Any idea when Bouba will be fit? Some reports say October or November. His injury didn't look anywhere near as severe as Tyrone's. I remember him walking off with a slight limp against Manure in February. Didn't look too serious at the time. I wonder if he sustained a partial tear of his ACL and not a full rupture like Ty.? If so, his recovery time will be shorter fingers crossed. He certainly is missed in the DM role. Some suggestions I've seen state he'll partner Onana as a double pivot when fit?
Any idea when Bouba will be fit? Some reports say October or November. His injury didn't look anywhere near as severe as Tyrone's. I remember him walking off with a slight limp against Manure in February. Didn't look too serious at the time. I wonder if he sustained a partial tear of his ACL and not a full rupture like Ty.? If so, his recovery time will be shorter fingers crossed. He certainly is missed in the DM role. Some suggestions I've seen state he'll partner Onana as a double pivot when fit?
With other injuries Kamara had, he recovered faster than was expected and his age is in his favour. Hopefully he's back sooner than expected, but there's a big difference between being back on the grass and getting back to your best.
With Kamara he has been most unfortunate with injuries.Any idea when Bouba will be fit? Some reports say October or November. His injury didn't look anywhere near as severe as Tyrone's. I remember him walking off with a slight limp against Manure in February. Didn't look too serious at the time. I wonder if he sustained a partial tear of his ACL and not a full rupture like Ty.? If so, his recovery time will be shorter fingers crossed. He certainly is missed in the DM role. Some suggestions I've seen state he'll partner Onana as a double pivot when fit?
With other injuries Kamara had, he recovered faster than was expected and his age is in his favour. Hopefully he's back sooner than expected, but there's a big difference between being back on the grass and getting back to your best.
Also, he will have missed pre-season which is crucial - look what happened with Jacob Ramsey last season. But, as you say he appears to be a quick healer. I still can't believe we had 3 players with ACL's last season! Remarkable that we finished 4th!
Which is why we have Barrenechea and Onana in the squad now. Hopefully BK will get all the time he needs to recover fully.With Kamara he has been most unfortunate with injuries.Any idea when Bouba will be fit? Some reports say October or November. His injury didn't look anywhere near as severe as Tyrone's. I remember him walking off with a slight limp against Manure in February. Didn't look too serious at the time. I wonder if he sustained a partial tear of his ACL and not a full rupture like Ty.? If so, his recovery time will be shorter fingers crossed. He certainly is missed in the DM role. Some suggestions I've seen state he'll partner Onana as a double pivot when fit?
With other injuries Kamara had, he recovered faster than was expected and his age is in his favour. Hopefully he's back sooner than expected, but there's a big difference between being back on the grass and getting back to your best.
Also, he will have missed pre-season which is crucial - look what happened with Jacob Ramsey last season. But, as you say he appears to be a quick healer. I still can't believe we had 3 players with ACL's last season! Remarkable that we finished 4th!
Especially since arriving at Villa.
I'm wondering if the physical demands are too much ? Is he robust enough?
In 22/23 Missed 17 games had 3 injuries
23/24 missed 21 games with his knee injury
This season he's going to miss 10 or so games at least
A lot of people will have missed it so it's worth putting in here...in his pre-match interview, Emery mentioned in passing that Kamara will be back next month.
A lot of people will have missed it so it's worth putting in here...in his pre-match interview, Emery mentioned in passing that Kamara will be back next month.
A lot of people will have missed it so it's worth putting in here...in his pre-match interview, Emery mentioned in passing that Kamara will be back next month.
I'd written him off appearing for us until December. Great news if he's back in serious training next month, makes November return realistic.
Only caution is we've rushed him back from injury before and there was a setback and you can't be risking that with an ACL.
I'd written him off appearing for us until December. Great news if he's back in serious training next month, makes November return realistic.
Only caution is we've rushed him back from injury before and there was a setback and you can't be risking that with an ACL.
We could really do with him in November as it's a horrendous month for fixtures. Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea away plus 2 CL fixtures and Palace at home. On top of that, there's an international break in the middle so our players will be flying all over the world for their countries and playing another 2 games.
Absolutely crazy schedule.
Kamara being back would go a long way to getting us some decent results from that lot.
I'd written him off appearing for us until December. Great news if he's back in serious training next month, makes November return realistic.
Only caution is we've rushed him back from injury before and there was a setback and you can't be risking that with an ACL.
We could really do with him in November as it's a horrendous month for fixtures. Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea away plus 2 CL fixtures and Palace at home. On top of that, there's an international break in the middle so our players will be flying all over the world for their countries and playing another 2 games.
Absolutely crazy schedule.
Kamara being back would go a long way to getting us some decent results from that lot.
If we get a away CL game as well its gonna be horrendous. Its probably the toughtest month of the whole season. I think dec we have newcastle amd citeh back to back but other than that rest of season isnt too bad
I posted only recently that I didn't think his injury was as severe as Tyrone's. He limped off against Manure in February whereas Tyrone was carried off on a stretcher in agony at Newcastle. Great news if Bouba is back in training next month! It'll be like a new signing when he returns!
I wondered, with Mings is a reason his recovery takes longer because he also needs to bulk up like an ox, rather than just repair the knee?
I’d imagine getting into Buendia’s shape would take less time and conditioning than that of Mings (sadly I’ve never known either).
I posted only recently that I didn't think his injury was as severe as Tyrone's. He limped off against Manure in February whereas Tyrone was carried off on a stretcher in agony at Newcastle. Great news if Bouba is back in training next month! It'll be like a new signing when he returns!
I wondered, with Mings is a reason his recovery takes longer because he also needs to bulk up like an ox, rather than just repair the knee?
I’d imagine getting into Buendia’s shape would take less time and conditioning than that of Mings (sadly I’ve never known either).
I'd written him off appearing for us until December. Great news if he's back in serious training next month, makes November return realistic.
Only caution is we've rushed him back from injury before and there was a setback and you can't be risking that with an ACL.
We could really do with him in November as it's a horrendous month for fixtures. Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea away plus 2 CL fixtures and Palace at home. On top of that, there's an international break in the middle so our players will be flying all over the world for their countries and playing another 2 games.
Absolutely crazy schedule.
Kamara being back would go a long way to getting us some decent results from that lot.
If we get a away CL game as well its gonna be horrendous. Its probably the toughtest month of the whole season. I think dec we have newcastle amd citeh back to back but other than that rest of season isnt too bad
Yep. This could be Emi Martinez' Novermber schedule for example:
Liverpool A
Real Madrid A
Spurs A
Paraguay A
Peru H (Home in this case being Buenos Airies)
Palace H
Bayern Munich H
Chelsea A
All that in 4 weeks. It's just not viable.
Boubacar] Kamara is progressing a lot, I think now is the sixth month since he was injured and he had surgery.
"And, more or less, in a few weeks he will start training with us.
"Tyrone Mings is close to start doing something with the team, now he's working alone but he’s feeling very good.
Apparently he's been training on grass for a few weeks now. He should be back training with the squad next month, so I reckon he'll be aiming for a return in mid October.
I’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
I’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
I’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
To return to my favourite soapbox theme of the summer, every time that Emery has had the time and opportunity to build his own side, he's normally played with three defensive midfielders, whose job is to get the ball to the three attackers and full-backs.
Maybe he'll do differently with us, but Kamara and Onana together would be exactly what precedent suggests the plan is.
He’s said we are building differently with the two centre mids forming a box with two centre halves, so I’d say yes. But I don’t think that points to a three as Dave suggestsI’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
To return to my favourite soapbox theme of the summer, every time that Emery has had the time and opportunity to build his own side, he's normally played with three defensive midfielders, whose job is to get the ball to the three attackers and full-backs.
Maybe he'll do differently with us, but Kamara and Onana together would be exactly what precedent suggests the plan is.
Will that mean both full backs are attack minded?
I’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
To return to my favourite soapbox theme of the summer, every time that Emery has had the time and opportunity to build his own side, he's normally played with three defensive midfielders, whose job is to get the ball to the three attackers and full-backs.
Maybe he'll do differently with us, but Kamara and Onana together would be exactly what precedent suggests the plan is.
Will that mean both full backs are attack minded?
He’s said we are building differently with the two centre mids forming a box with two centre halves, so I’d say yes. But I don’t think that points to a three as Dave suggestsI’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
To return to my favourite soapbox theme of the summer, every time that Emery has had the time and opportunity to build his own side, he's normally played with three defensive midfielders, whose job is to get the ball to the three attackers and full-backs.
Maybe he'll do differently with us, but Kamara and Onana together would be exactly what precedent suggests the plan is.
Will that mean both full backs are attack minded?
He’s said we are building differently with the two centre mids forming a box with two centre halves, so I’d say yes. But I don’t think that points to a three as Dave suggestsI’m looking forward to the Kamara/Onana pairing. Think it could be awesome.I’m not sure that they’ll play together much tbh. I think they cover the same roll - the more defensive DM. Kamara may be versatile enough to play the more playmaker role if needed, but I would have thought these two share minutes as the DM and Tielemans and Barkley play the other role.
To return to my favourite soapbox theme of the summer, every time that Emery has had the time and opportunity to build his own side, he's normally played with three defensive midfielders, whose job is to get the ball to the three attackers and full-backs.
Maybe he'll do differently with us, but Kamara and Onana together would be exactly what precedent suggests the plan is.
Will that mean both full backs are attack minded?
No, I said it points to Onana and Kamara probably playing together more often than not when both are available.
https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/458692560505506
Has he vowed not to get a hair cut until he is back in the first team?
https://www.facebook.com/avfcofficial/videos/458692560505506
Their off the park service is crap at the moment but i am liking the video clips
This guy is an absolute beast - can't believe how hard he's pushing it already.
This guy is an absolute beast - can't believe how hard he's pushing it already.
For him to be back this soon he must have rehabbed like a demon.
Has he vowed not to get a hair cut until he is back in the first team?
Has he vowed not to get a hair cut until he is back in the first team?
I think it looks great. You know what happened to samson once he got rid of his locks.
This guy is an absolute beast - can't believe how hard he's pushing it already.
For him to be back this soon he must have rehabbed like a demon.
It sounded like his injury was a lower grade than either Mings or Buendia so I'd say he's only slightly ahead of schedule, I'm sure a November return was always the expectation.
I've been watching clips of him today against Spurs and a few others. My word the man is absolutely top class.
Easy to forget.
I've been watching clips of him today against Spurs and a few others. My word the man is absolutely top class.
Easy to forget.
The away game I presume!
I can recall claiming sometime back he was our best outfield player (I’m sure somebody can look it up).
He will be a massive addition to our campaign.
I can recall claiming sometime back he was our best outfield player (I’m sure somebody can look it up).
He will be a massive addition to our campaign.
I can recall claiming sometime back he was our best outfield player (I’m sure somebody can look it up).
He will be a massive addition to our campaign.
Y'know the way Dougie missed Bouba and wasn't as good....is there any risk that Bouba will miss Dougie and not be as good...?
I can see a double pivot of Onana and Kamara in certain games.
I can see a double pivot of Onana and Kamara in certain games.
As discussed in the summer, I'm completely certain that it'll be our first choice midfield pair when both are fit.
McGinn will be sacrificed once Bouba is fit. Tielemans will be the 10, supported by Bailey and Rogers behind Ollie. The defence will have the best protection it will have had in ages and allow our full backs to help in both phases of the game.
McGinn will be sacrificed once Bouba is fit. Tielemans will be the 10, supported by Bailey and Rogers behind Ollie. The defence will have the best protection it will have had in ages and allow our full backs to help in both phases of the game.
Although Kamara is a talented player and looking forward to welcoming him back into the squad, I believe that he has the least connection to the fans out of all the players who have been here for more than a season. He was ultimately a Gerrard acquisition, signed merely for a big contract what's his motivation ?
Does he have the same as others who signed under Emery or the longer term members of the squad like Konsa, Mings and Ginny who have a connection.
And given that we finished fourth last season without him, I could see him being sold in the summer for a respectable sum in order to raise funds for other investments and PSR purposes.
Although Kamara is a talented player and looking forward to welcoming him back into the squad, I believe that he has the least connection to the fans out of all the players who have been here for more than a season. He was ultimately a Gerrard acquisition, signed merely for a big contract what's his motivation ?
Does he have the same as others who signed under Emery or the longer term members of the squad like Konsa, Mings and Ginny who have a connection.
And given that we finished fourth last season without him, I could see him being sold in the summer for a respectable sum in order to raise funds for other investments and PSR purposes.
We didn’t finish fourth last season “without” him - he played in over half our leagues games (20) from which we picked up 41 of our 68 points. I’d say he contributed a hell of a lot and was very much appreciated by fans.
Although Kamara is a talented player and looking forward to welcoming him back into the squad, I believe that he has the least connection to the fans out of all the players who have been here for more than a season. He was ultimately a Gerrard acquisition, signed merely for a big contract what's his motivation ?This reads like it's come from your dislike of Gerrard, F-V; very little logic or evidence to back it up.
Does he have the same as others who signed under Emery or the longer term members of the squad like Konsa, Mings and Ginny who have a connection.
And given that we finished fourth last season without him, I could see him being sold in the summer for a respectable sum in order to raise funds for other investments and PSR purposes.
Although Kamara is a talented player and looking forward to welcoming him back into the squad, I believe that he has the least connection to the fans out of all the players who have been here for more than a season. He was ultimately a Gerrard acquisition, signed merely for a big contract what's his motivation ?
Does he have the same as others who signed under Emery or the longer term members of the squad like Konsa, Mings and Ginny who have a connection.
And given that we finished fourth last season without him, I could see him being sold in the summer for a respectable sum in order to raise funds for other investments and PSR purposes.
We didn’t finish fourth last season “without” him - he played in over half our leagues games (20) from which we picked up 41 of our 68 points. I’d say he contributed a hell of a lot and was very much appreciated by fans.
Agree, he has the occasional poor game but he will be a huge boost to the squad when he gets back to his level.Although Kamara is a talented player and looking forward to welcoming him back into the squad, I believe that he has the least connection to the fans out of all the players who have been here for more than a season. He was ultimately a Gerrard acquisition, signed merely for a big contract what's his motivation ?
Does he have the same as others who signed under Emery or the longer term members of the squad like Konsa, Mings and Ginny who have a connection.
And given that we finished fourth last season without him, I could see him being sold in the summer for a respectable sum in order to raise funds for other investments and PSR purposes.
We didn’t finish fourth last season “without” him - he played in over half our leagues games (20) from which we picked up 41 of our 68 points. I’d say he contributed a hell of a lot and was very much appreciated by fans.
It's absolute drivel, as per usual. I can't say I've noticed a lack of connection from Digne, who was another Gerrard purchase. And then compare that to Diaby, who couldn't wait to piss off to to that backwater of football, Saudi Arabia. Hopefully it doesn't take Kamara long to get back up to his usual levels, as on form he's our best and most important player.
Hopefully it doesn't take Kamara long to get back up to his usual levels, as on form he's our best and most important player.
Hopefully it doesn't take Kamara long to get back up to his usual levels, as on form he's our best and most important player.
Seem to remember that after his first long period out he slotted straight back in as if he'd never missed a game. Obviously this is a different injury, but he's probably the player I'd be most confident about just coming straight back and performing as he did before.
Are we playing Sheff Weds behind closed doors this week
All this talk of who misses out when Kamara is back is going to happen, but his name should be first on there first and everything else fits around him.
He is uniquely talented and is absolutely top class. Doesn’t mean he won’t have the odd poor game, but he makes the cohesion of the team significantly stronger.
Agree, he has the occasional poor game but he will be a huge boost to the squad when he gets back to his level.Although Kamara is a talented player and looking forward to welcoming him back into the squad, I believe that he has the least connection to the fans out of all the players who have been here for more than a season. He was ultimately a Gerrard acquisition, signed merely for a big contract what's his motivation ?
Does he have the same as others who signed under Emery or the longer term members of the squad like Konsa, Mings and Ginny who have a connection.
And given that we finished fourth last season without him, I could see him being sold in the summer for a respectable sum in order to raise funds for other investments and PSR purposes.
We didn’t finish fourth last season “without” him - he played in over half our leagues games (20) from which we picked up 41 of our 68 points. I’d say he contributed a hell of a lot and was very much appreciated by fans.
It's absolute drivel, as per usual. I can't say I've noticed a lack of connection from Digne, who was another Gerrard purchase. And then compare that to Diaby, who couldn't wait to piss off to to that backwater of football, Saudi Arabia. Hopefully it doesn't take Kamara long to get back up to his usual levels, as on form he's our best and most important player.
Having Kamara and Mings in the matchday squad will give us a huge boost. I'm looking forward to seeing Kamara breaking up play again without any drama and giving us a bit more steel defensively. We have great midfield options when everyone is fit.This.
Missing the point here !
I'm saying he would be the least sentimental loss if was sold in summer.
I miss Luiz but I don't have much connection to Kamara.
Also as he was a free transfer he could be sold for substantial amount.
He is the one where I keep hoping a press release announcing a contract extension.
Hopefully it doesn't take Kamara long to get back up to his usual levels, as on form he's our best and most important player.
Seem to remember that after his first long period out he slotted straight back in as if he'd never missed a game. Obviously this is a different injury, but he's probably the player I'd be most confident about just coming straight back and performing as he did before.
I hope so. I think my big worry is that two really serious injuries are going to have knock on effects for the rest of his career. Sometimes having an area or areas that aren't 100% can affect the rest of a person's body, and lead to further injuries. Plus there's the risk of the actual injured area not being as strong in the future.
Having Kamara and Mings in the matchday squad will give us a huge boost. I'm looking forward to seeing Kamara breaking up play again without any drama and giving us a bit more steel defensively. We have great midfield options when everyone is fit.This.
Well Emery left Kamara out of the champions league squad.
Well Emery left Kamara out of the champions league squad.
No he didn't.
Well Emery left Kamara out of the champions league squad.
No he didn't.
I'm afraid so he was omitted.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/clubs/52683--aston-villa/squad/
He's listed under the defenders but he's in the squad
First you have a weird negative obsession with Martinez, and now it’s Kamara. Do you just not like good players?
What do you even mean by connected? If you're suggesting he isn't as liked by the fans then I'd say you're talking nonsense.
If you're going the other way and suggesting he isn't bothered about being here I'd like to see your working because I don't get that impression at all.
I love kamara and he played constantly under emery, he's as connected as anyone. Just maybe not in your bizarre mind
First you have a weird negative obsession with Martinez, and now it’s Kamara. Do you just not like good players?
I don't have anything of the like.
Also Douglas Luiz I said was world class, I was campaigning for Tielemans this season having to bump the thread as he wasn't being talked about and have raised discussion about Watkins being one of our greatest ever strikers.
I was merely raising discussion that Kamara doesn't seem much connected that's all.
... and obsessive dislike of Gerrard.You are literally making all this up to create a discussion/argument that doesn’t have any substance to it and is very much more about your need for attention and validation.First you have a weird negative obsession with Martinez, and now it’s Kamara. Do you just not like good players?I don't have anything of the like.
Also Douglas Luiz I said was world class, I was campaigning for Tielemans this season having to bump the thread as he wasn't being talked about and have raised discussion about Watkins being one of our greatest ever strikers.
I was merely raising discussion that Kamara doesn't seem much connected that's all.
... which, whilst understandable, is clouding the judgement on the players that came into the club at that time ...
I couldn’t stand Gerrard by the end and thought he should have gone a few games earlier, but it turns out his legacy wasn’t disastrous. Kamara’s great, Digne is very good, and I know he splits opinion but I like Carlos too, and he was very unlucky with his injury. Coutinho was a costly mistake, but there is that narrative that he helped us sign Kamara. We soon got rid of the Swedish full-back.The less said about Olsen the better. All that said, he cost us a fortune to hire and fire of course.
Have I missed anything, good or bad?
I couldn’t stand Gerrard by the end and thought he should have gone a few games earlier, but it turns out his legacy wasn’t disastrous. Kamara’s great, Digne is very good, and I know he splits opinion but I like Carlos too, and he was very unlucky with his injury. Coutinho was a costly mistake, but there is that narrative that he helped us sign Kamara. We soon got rid of the Swedish full-back.The less said about Olsen the better. All that said, he cost us a fortune to hire and fire of course.
Have I missed anything, good or bad?
Ah well, we’re doing well and all his mistakes are getting closer to full amortisation* by the day.
Phew!
*The thought process of the modern football fan eh?
Carpet-head asked the club to throw money at Digne and Coutinho, don't think there's much praise warranted there. Digne would have joined anyone happy to double his wages from Everton or whatever it was.
Flying to France to woo Bouba, fair enough, beyond that he can keep fcked off in the Middle East.
Edit: as I looked back at the telly after posting, I saw that Neil Critchley has got the Hearts job. Was that Gerrard’s hapless and well-travelled assistant?
Edit: as I looked back at the telly after posting, I saw that Neil Critchley has got the Hearts job. Was that Gerrard’s hapless and well-travelled assistant?
You're thinking of Micheal Bale who abandoned Slippy to take the QPR job. He then abandoned them to take the Sevco job. Neil Critchley replaced him at QPR, the day after Slippy was kicked out but he only lasted 12 games at Loftus Road.
Edit: as I looked back at the telly after posting, I saw that Neil Critchley has got the Hearts job. Was that Gerrard’s hapless and well-travelled assistant?
You're thinking of Micheal Bale who abandoned Slippy to take the QPR job. He then abandoned them to take the Sevco job. Neil Critchley replaced him at QPR, the day after Slippy was kicked out but he only lasted 12 games at Loftus Road.
Critchley was Blackpool manager, he left them to join us as Gerrard's assistant after Beale left us.
... which, whilst understandable, is clouding the judgement on the players that came into the club at that time ...
Yep, almost certainly why he keeps banging on about playing Maatsen instead of Digne.
... The problem with Gerrard wasn't his transfers, it was his arrogant attitude towards the senior players, and inability to alter his tactics when they clearly weren't working.You mention this, and - by chance - I went onto the Players' Tribune website yesterday and found an interview with Jacob Ramsey; given sometime after the appointment of the Scouse Fraud. He gave a hint of the style when he said something along the lines of "he doesn't do much but has an aura about him" - the classic former-player chimera (all style, no substance).
Digne is worth every penny I reckon, didn't cost a fortune in a transfer fee and you're not getting a left back as good as him for any less wages than he's on. He saw off Moreno who was Unai's first transfer, and so far he's keeping his place despite us spending a trillion quid on Maatsen as well.
The problem with Gerrard wasn't his transfers, it was his arrogant attitude towards the senior players, and inability to alter his tactics when they clearly weren't working.
... which, whilst understandable, is clouding the judgement on the players that came into the club at that time ...
Yep, almost certainly why he keeps banging on about playing Maatsen instead of Digne.
"bailey offering the same threat behind" - Bailey offers very little threat of anything right now, to be fair.I’d play Maatsen ahead of Digne. Digne is great at crossing but rarely threatens beyond the defensive line. Maatsen does this, which complements Ramsey tucking in (bailey offering the same threat behind on the other side). Probably with Konsa at RB.... which, whilst understandable, is clouding the judgement on the players that came into the club at that time ...Yep, almost certainly why he keeps banging on about playing Maatsen instead of Digne.
I think that’s our best formation as we can attack from both wings and push their defence back. With Digne they can defend high with minimal jeapody.
Great to see him back
Held my breath when he did that sliding tackle from behind…..fantastic to have him back.
If McGinn plays in the centre then we've got a few injury problems.
Pleased to see the return of Booby Kam 8)Great place to put a cam.
Apparently he’s got an injury again. Not sure the extent of it.
Apparently he’s got an injury again. Not sure the extent of it.
Hamstring according to The Athletic and “a few weeks”. Ramsey too apparently.
Depends on the Grade of the injury. Grade 1 could be a couple of weeks (the fact he played until the end of the match would put it in this area). Grade 2 - probably more like Ramsey's, where he had to come off - weeks to a couple of months. Grade 3 - full on tear - months out.
Depends on the Grade of the injury. Grade 1 could be a couple of weeks (the fact he played until the end of the match would put it in this area). Grade 2 - probably more like Ramsey's, where he had to come off - weeks to a couple of months. Grade 3 - full on tear - months out.
Kamara seems very injury prone , i'd be looking to sell him this summer
Concern being he can't stay fit , not questioning the job he can do when fully fit
Who I think we could sell on.Concern being he can't stay fit , not questioning the job he can do when fully fit
You could say the same about Ramsey.
Who I would not sell but there are significant differences.Who I think we could sell on.Concern being he can't stay fit , not questioning the job he can do when fully fit
You could say the same about Ramsey.
FFS he is not injury prone compared to players such as Sturridge or Owen
Agree, we should also consider this . Players who are unavailable for repeated spells are not ideal , though I like Ramsey and he was our best player Saturday night we need to take a holistic viewConcern being he can't stay fit , not questioning the job he can do when fully fit
You could say the same about Ramsey.
Paul McGrath had 2 dodgy knees, hardly trained, turned up on Saturday with a blinding hangover and then spent 90 mins waltzing around owning the place. Different times ...
Depends on the Grade of the injury. Grade 1 could be a couple of weeks (the fact he played until the end of the match would put it in this area). Grade 2 - probably more like Ramsey's, where he had to come off - weeks to a couple of months. Grade 3 - full on tear - months out.
This is Villa mate...
Depends on the Grade of the injury. Grade 1 could be a couple of weeks (the fact he played until the end of the match would put it in this area). Grade 2 - probably more like Ramsey's, where he had to come off - weeks to a couple of months. Grade 3 - full on tear - months out.
This is Villa mate...
Just pointing out how severe they can be Risso. Apologies.
Grade 4 - put down at the vets surgery in Tamworth
Superb tonight. Would be really tempted to play Onana and him together in front of Cash, Konsa, Torres and Digne to help get the foundations back in the side... Emi and him, both world class.
Excellent tonight. Has to start sunday
Superb tonight. Would be really tempted to play Onana and him together in front of Cash, Konsa, Torres and Digne to help get the foundations back in the side... Emi and him, both world class.
I'm absolutely certain that our best first eleven has all of Onana, Kamara and Tielemans in it.
Superb tonight. Would be really tempted to play Onana and him together in front of Cash, Konsa, Torres and Digne to help get the foundations back in the side... Emi and him, both world class.
I'm absolutely certain that our best first eleven has all of Onana, Kamara and Tielemans in it.
Superb tonight. Would be really tempted to play Onana and him together in front of Cash, Konsa, Torres and Digne to help get the foundations back in the side... Emi and him, both world class.
I'm absolutely certain that our best first eleven has all of Onana, Kamara and Tielemans in it.
Hard to see how that fits into Unai's usual 4-4-2 though.
Superb tonight. Would be really tempted to play Onana and him together in front of Cash, Konsa, Torres and Digne to help get the foundations back in the side... Emi and him, both world class.
I'm absolutely certain that our best first eleven has all of Onana, Kamara and Tielemans in it.
Superb tonight. Would be really tempted to play Onana and him together in front of Cash, Konsa, Torres and Digne to help get the foundations back in the side... Emi and him, both world class.
I'm absolutely certain that our best first eleven has all of Onana, Kamara and Tielemans in it.
I agree, for the big games kamara and onana in there with tielemans in front looks like the strongest option for me.
No surprise our defence looks better with him in front of them.
Just hope he can stay fit, our equivalent of Rodri.
The old adage “ the game is won in midfield “ still rings true.No surprise our defence looks better with him in front of them.
Just hope he can stay fit, our equivalent of Rodri.
Yeah I had that thought last night, not just in where they play but also that we've nobody else that can do what they do and we we look half the team without him.
I think his biggest attribute is his ability to buy himself time on the ball. He never seems flustered, even with two or more opposition players around him. And whether facing up the pitch or looking at our goal, he always seems to know where our players are.
I think his biggest attribute is his ability to buy himself time on the ball. He never seems flustered, even with two or more opposition players around him. And whether facing up the pitch or looking at our goal, he always seems to know where our players are.
I'm convinced that if Kamara hadn't been injured last season we'd have won the Conference league and stayed in the title mix for a lot longer. For me he is our most important player after Martinez, we don't have a replacement for what he can do and as soon as he is removed from the team the whole system has to compensate for it. I really really hope we can keep him fit for the rest of the season.
I'm convinced that if Kamara hadn't been injured last season we'd have won the Conference league and stayed in the title mix for a lot longer. For me he is our most important player after Martinez, we don't have a replacement for what he can do and as soon as he is removed from the team the whole system has to compensate for it. I really really hope we can keep him fit for the rest of the season.
Play him and Onana together and Tielemans in the McGinn role from yesterday, when everyone's fit. Just a brick wall in the middle of the pitch.
Announce his contract extension.
Announce his contract extension.
I've always wondered how contract extension negotiations work with players who arrived on a Bosman. It's widely accepted that as they come for "free" there will be some sort of wage-related inducement for them to sign, which might put their wages higher than if we'd paid £20m for them. When they renegotiate, do their wages get "re-adjusted" into non-Bosman levels? Or does someone who came on a Bosman likely have higher wages (on average) than a non-Bosman for their entire time at a club, because everyone wants a pay rise at renegotiating time, and they're already starting at a higher level?
I'm sure the same is true of Youri.
Announce his contract extension.
Announce his contract extension.
I've always wondered how contract extension negotiations work with players who arrived on a Bosman. It's widely accepted that as they come for "free" there will be some sort of wage-related inducement for them to sign, which might put their wages higher than if we'd paid £20m for them. When they renegotiate, do their wages get "re-adjusted" into non-Bosman levels? Or does someone who came on a Bosman likely have higher wages (on average) than a non-Bosman for their entire time at a club, because everyone wants a pay rise at renegotiating time, and they're already starting at a higher level?
I'm sure the same is true of Youri.
Thought it was usually a signing bonus. As he came in under Gerrard who put both Coutinho and Carlos on stupidly high wages, I'm guessing Boubi will be on high as well, although coming from a French club, just going on normal Prem wages would have been a massive boost for him.
Thought he was comfortably our MOTM yesterday.He looked absolute class and worried that he is going to attract some serious attention soon.
Been here two and a half years so contract talks need to start as a matter of urgency as the stats prove how important he is when he's playing as opposed to not.
He did pass the ball out of play under no pressure in the second half so let's not worship false idols.And there was an opportunity in ideal windy conditions to drop a simple 60 yard lob over Lumley’s head into the net and he chose to pass back to Pau. Tut tut NGE in my opinion.
Absolutely superb tonight, strolling around controlling the middle without any fuss. Our game management is up 3 levels with him back.
The only decent thing Gerrard did was get this guy in for no transfer fee.
The only decent thing Gerrard did was get this guy in for no transfer fee.
Well Digne’s been pretty bloody good.
The only decent thing Gerrard did was get this guy in for no transfer fee.
Well Digne’s been pretty bloody good.
True, he's been awesome. I just don't want to give Gerrard anymore credit than one thing :D
The only decent thing Gerrard did was get this guy in for no transfer fee.
Well Digne’s been pretty bloody good.
True, he's been awesome. I just don't want to give Gerrard anymore credit than one thing :D
And then there was leaving !!
He's always been good technically, but it's interesting just how good he has become at rotating possession with the more technically gifted players in front of him, and he seems to have added the ability to break the line and burst forward himself (which we didn't see much before his injury, I'm assuming due to tactical discipline).ne of the first names on the team sheet right now (though I fully expect him to be rotated as we manage his load after so long out).I think it's a priority for us to see how he plays alongside Onana. Playing them together will not only make us more solid across the middle, it will also take some of the pressure off Kamara.
The only decent thing Gerrard did was get this guy in for no transfer fee.
Well Digne’s been pretty bloody good.
True, he's been awesome. I just don't want to give Gerrard anymore credit than one thing :D
I was surprised how far forward he was at times last night.
He's been Biden his time for a proper run in the team.
He's been Biden his time for a proper run in the team.
Ooh, you trumped him with that one.
The only decent thing Gerrard did was get this guy in for no transfer fee.
Well Digne’s been pretty bloody good.
True, he's been awesome. I just don't want to give Gerrard anymore credit than one thing :D
But Digne is par considering his age, fee and wages I reckon.
He's been Biden his time for a proper run in the team.
Ooh, you trumped him with that one.
It was an am-Bush.
Prioritise a contract for this man - if I were Man Citeh I’d see him as largely filling the Rodri gap.and if i were Man Citeh i'd be fucking right off because i've had an absolute bellyfull of that shower of shit robbing our best players....
He's been Biden his time for a proper run in the team.
Ooh, you trumped him with that one.
It was an am-Bush.
They went by car ter it.
It was a Ford.
He's been Biden his time for a proper run in the team.
Ooh, you trumped him with that one.
It was an am-Bush.
They went by car ter it.
It was a Ford.
I Grant you that puns can be entertaining, helping Fillmore of the day and I don't want to Hoover the fun from the thread, but it's all getting a bit Taft now
Onana and Bouba combo is right up there for me. With Youri pulling strings further forward, Roger’s has the protection, space etc to exploit. This could get really exciting to watch.
A new contract for Boubacar Kamara is regarded as a priority.
@JPercyTelegraph
I agree he's our most important player and the one we really need to tie down, I also think he might be very difficult to get to sign up, especially if we are not playing CL football next year. Hope I'm wrong.
That co-commentator tonight, didn’t catch her name, was so right about BK. I believe it was she who gave him MOTM. He just does everything very, very well. I can’t praise him highly enough.
That co-commentator tonight, didn’t catch her name, was so right about BK. I believe it was she who gave him MOTM. He just does everything very, very well. I can’t praise him highly enough.
It’s still amazes me we got him on a free. Still makes Stevie G a colossal twat. But thanks and all that
Unai Emery on Boubacar Kamara: "Fantastic match. Fantastic. He is getting progressively better after a long time injured. His work and his capacity is increasing. It is fantastic. He showed that again today. For us he is a very important player."
I listened to the radio on the way back to the car last night. They were talking about Declan Rice, and how he's a nightmare to play against as he's just always there, sniffing out danger, knowing the game, picking a pass. Just having that instinct that isn't coachable. They talked about him being the best since Gerrard or as far back as Robson. Unsung hero who just dies it all over the pitch.
All I could think about was that they could be describing Kamara. There, calm, composed.
I listened to the radio on the way back to the car last night. They were talking about Declan Rice, and how he's a nightmare to play against as he's just always there, sniffing out danger, knowing the game, picking a pass. Just having that instinct that isn't coachable. They talked about him being the best since Gerrard or as far back as Robson. Unsung hero who just dies it all over the pitch.
All I could think about was that they could be describing Kamara. There, calm, composed.
In the bits of the Ars v Spurs game I watched, he and Partey allowed Spurs midfielders to carry the ball vast distances through the middle of the park, Rice is a fine player but I'm not sure he's anywhere near as effective as Bouba as a DM.
I hate to say this, and I hope he never leaves. But giving him a 5 year contract immediately places a £100m asset into the squad. With that in mind, he should be made our highest paid player.
I hate to say this, and I hope he never leaves. But giving him a 5 year contract immediately places a £100m asset into the squad. With that in mind, he should be made our highest paid player.
Rice is a fine player but isn’t a top DM. It’s a misconception and one of the reasons the national team flatter to deceive and fall short when they come up against decent opposition. His strengths are his dynamism and driving his team forward. Kamara is a proper DM, very much our Rodri.
Rice is a fine player but isn’t a top DM. It’s a misconception and one of the reasons the national team flatter to deceive and fall short when they come up against decent opposition. His strengths are his dynamism and driving his team forward. Kamara is a proper DM, very much our Rodri.
Spot on.
Rice is a fine player but isn’t a top DM. It’s a misconception and one of the reasons the national team flatter to deceive and fall short when they come up against decent opposition. His strengths are his dynamism and driving his team forward. Kamara is a proper DM, very much our Rodri.
Lucy Ward was talking about him showing up in the right back position, which she gets half marks for. We were actually building up from a back 3 of Kamara, Konsa and Mings when we were in possession, with Cash and Digne pushed up. It'll be interesting whether this is the next evolution in our structure and why we've been linked with an attacking right back.
Agreed with this, and it also explains why he's bought Maatsen and Nedeljkovic: both are essentially wingbacks. He's giving them a season to 'get' the Premier League and will be increasingly using them as we get to the start of next season.Lucy Ward was talking about him showing up in the right back position, which she gets half marks for. We were actually building up from a back 3 of Kamara, Konsa and Mings when we were in possession, with Cash and Digne pushed up. It'll be interesting whether this is the next evolution in our structure and why we've been linked with an attacking right back.I think it will be. It has a number of positives;
Allows Tielemans to pick up the ball a bit deeper where he’s more of a threat.
Pushes Cash forward, which gives RW more support and makes us less lopsided in attack
With the full backs pushed on, the RW and LW can come inside and get closer to the forward.
For those unaware kamaras contract expires in the summer of 2027. He has two and half years left we really need to get him signed up to a long term deal. Dangerous to go in with 12 months left.
It would be criminal to lose a player of this quality on a free
It'll be interesting whether this is the next evolution in our structure and why we've been linked with an attacking right back.
You do realise 12 months is only 1 year, right?
He's already made one excellent career move that has no doubt made him more money than if he'd been transferred for a fee, maybe he'll look to do the same? We can't really hold it against him if he did, I know if I was a top player now that's what I'd look to do.
All good points really. But my view is if he doesnt sign this summer we may have to consider cashing in. We cant risk going in with 12 months left next summer.
All good points really. But my view is if he doesnt sign this summer we may have to consider cashing in. We cant risk going in with 12 months left next summer.
All good points really. But my view is if he doesnt sign this summer we may have to consider cashing in. We cant risk going in with 12 months left next summer.
When would you cash in? This summer? With 2 years left?
All good points really. But my view is if he doesnt sign this summer we may have to consider cashing in. We cant risk going in with 12 months left next summer.
When would you cash in? This summer? With 2 years left?
.yep it would be annoying but i wouldnt be mad at him as he had given us a great service.All good points really. But my view is if he doesnt sign this summer we may have to consider cashing in. We cant risk going in with 12 months left next summer.
Definitely consider it. One would imagine he would command a big fee from a very rich team.
But he didn't cost us anything (big wages aside). If we get two more years of good service from and he decides that he wants to move on for a massive signing on fee, best of luck to the lad.
All good points really. But my view is if he doesnt sign this summer we may have to consider cashing in. We cant risk going in with 12 months left next summer.
When would you cash in? This summer? With 2 years left?
Good question. it depends. If he isnt willing to sign this summer then if a big offer comes in i would reluctantly take it as gives us the whole summer to sign a replacement. January in 2026 would be horrible as its difficult to replace him in January.
The following summer he would woeth significantly less and may want to stay and leave on a free like somni says above. We would be powerless as a club.
Me, I'll just enjoy him for as long as we have him.
If he walks away for nowt in 2027 that will be five years we've had out of him. Can't complain at that really.
Realistically, we might look to get a decent fee next year if he won't agree an extension.
Talk of selling him this summer is nuts.
Boubacar is fantasticAbsolutely wonderful again wasn't he just!
He reminds me of McGrath not particularly his playing style but just the fact he turns up every match
no real fanfare, plays, MOTM every game
And we sort of just take it for granted
Boubacar is fantasticThis is correct. He’s outstanding and we badly need to keep hold of him.
He reminds me of McGrath not particularly his playing style but just the fact he turns up every match
no real fanfare, plays, MOTM every game
And we sort of just take it for granted
Another imperious performance in a position which isn't a familiar one. That ball for the first goal was magnificent.He's not played there for us before, but he often played there for Marseille.
Rapidly becoming my favourite player since God. Fancy covering centre half, yeah piece of piss mate. Makes it look effortless.
If Duran is worth £60m this guy is worth £600m.
Emery: "We are not talking about Kamara at centre-back. Wow. Wow. Fantastic. He's playing fantastic. Maybe you can call on teams to try and sign him!" #AVFC
I think he's easily our best player, and I don't even think it's really close.
Showed what a Rolls Royce of a player he is again last night, not sure how long it will be before other clubs come sniffing but he is the one player we need to get on a fresh contract ASAP.
He's even better since the injury, which is remarkable really. He is now a leader in this team as well as our best player. To perform like that out of position is just more evidence of an elite footballer. Pay him what he wants because we will not be able to replace him with better.
Showed what a Rolls Royce of a player he is again last night, not sure how long it will be before other clubs come sniffing but he is the one player we need to get on a fresh contract ASAP.
So we can get more money for him you mean? Because him signing a new contract won't stop him leaving if a bigger club comes in, as we seem to be finding out this week.
Showed what a Rolls Royce of a player he is again last night, not sure how long it will be before other clubs come sniffing but he is the one player we need to get on a fresh contract ASAP.
So we can get more money for him you mean? Because him signing a new contract won't stop him leaving if a bigger club comes in, as we seem to be finding out this week.
Showed what a Rolls Royce of a player he is again last night, not sure how long it will be before other clubs come sniffing but he is the one player we need to get on a fresh contract ASAP.
So we can get more money for him you mean? Because him signing a new contract won't stop him leaving if a bigger club comes in, as we seem to be finding out this week.
Showed what a Rolls Royce of a player he is again last night, not sure how long it will be before other clubs come sniffing but he is the one player we need to get on a fresh contract ASAP.
So we can get more money for him you mean? Because him signing a new contract won't stop him leaving if a bigger club comes in, as we seem to be finding out this week.
The alternative is to let him leave for free, so yeah. It’s obvious you’re feeling annoyed about the bid for Watkins, I am too, but that’s not evidence of players leaving if a bigger club comes in, is it?
My Marseille-supporting mate told me repeatedly that we were getting a superstar when we signed him.
He wasn't wrong.
We should offer him a stupidly long contract like Haaland.
I am indeed annoyed, and probably boring people with it by now haha! We should be revelling in the amazing achievement of us qualifying via the top 8, but are instead being forced to question whether all this over the last couple of years has actually changed anything for Villa as a club. For decades we've been also rans who have sold our best players as soon as a bigger club has 'swooped', despite doing all the 'bracing' we possibly could muster. The outcome has always been the same. If that doesn't change now, it never ever will.
But yes, I agree with your general point, we should try and set a massive release clause for Kamara so we don't get ripped off when it's time to sell him too.
Emery was saying in his press conference that it's good that our players are attracting interest. So, maybe that's the way to look at it. Lose him and I really would be annoyed!!!
I am indeed annoyed, and probably boring people with it by now haha! We should be revelling in the amazing achievement of us qualifying via the top 8, but are instead being forced to question whether all this over the last couple of years has actually changed anything for Villa as a club. For decades we've been also rans who have sold our best players as soon as a bigger club has 'swooped', despite doing all the 'bracing' we possibly could muster. The outcome has always been the same. If that doesn't change now, it never ever will.
But yes, I agree with your general point, we should try and set a massive release clause for Kamara so we don't get ripped off when it's time to sell him too.
Emery was saying in his press conference that it's good that our players are attracting interest. So, maybe that's the way to look at it. Lose him and I really would be annoyed!!!
No. I think you’re right to be annoyed. No one wants to think about our best players leaving, but yeah, it has to be better than no one wanting any of them. We’re in more of a position of power, relatively, than we have been in a long time.
Since the Bosman ruling the power is all with the player's agents and the clubs that can afford to spunk money wildly, that's the reality of modern football.
Enjoy him while you can, he's a proper player, and must be nailed to a new contract. Maybe we need some leverage over his agent? A decent blackmailing angle would surely improve our chances of holding on to him long term?!
He has that McGrath-eque quality where it looks like he's been given the highlights of the match in advance and knows exactly where to be.
He's learning the position bloody quickly. Fair play.
It WAS pretty fucking cool though, wasn't it? Didn't you get a semi on once the anxiety abated?
It WAS pretty fucking cool though, wasn't it? Didn't you get a semi on once the anxiety abated?
He also had an inasane run forward without the ball about 15 mins from time, clearly forgot he wasn't a midfielder at the moment.
It WAS pretty fucking cool though, wasn't it? Didn't you get a semi on once the anxiety abated?
He also had an inasane run forward without the ball about 15 mins from time, clearly forgot he wasn't a midfielder at the moment.
Yes, it was cool, very cool and very entertaining. I can't imagine Emery or the coaching staff being so enamored by it though. But I guess it's what you get with Kamara and it makes him stand out as a player who can do the basic stuff very well and can jazz it up now and then in a whim. I'd have no problem if it was in midfield as the risk of failure isn't so high even though I do remember one occasion where he did something similar previously which got punished.
I still love him even so. Player of the season so far in my book.
It WAS pretty fucking cool though, wasn't it? Didn't you get a semi on once the anxiety abated?
He also had an inasane run forward without the ball about 15 mins from time, clearly forgot he wasn't a midfielder at the moment.
Yes, it was cool, very cool and very entertaining. I can't imagine Emery or the coaching staff being so enamored by it though. But I guess it's what you get with Kamara and it makes him stand out as a player who can do the basic stuff very well and can jazz it up now and then in a whim. I'd have no problem if it was in midfield as the risk of failure isn't so high even though I do remember one occasion where he did something similar previously which got punished.
I still love him even so. Player of the season so far in my book.
I saw an interview recently with Alan McInally and he was giving Kamara rave reviews, so it's not going unnoticed.
She takes the Sky shilling as well. But the video was pretty much her style, just on the amazon prime youtube channel instead.She's had the rough edges knocked off - almost a bit too polished now.
i remember it well and was gutted for him - just look at him now, absolute belter of a Rolls-Royce of a giant of titan of a etc etc...It WAS pretty fucking cool though, wasn't it? Didn't you get a semi on once the anxiety abated?
He also had an inasane run forward without the ball about 15 mins from time, clearly forgot he wasn't a midfielder at the moment.
Yes, it was cool, very cool and very entertaining. I can't imagine Emery or the coaching staff being so enamored by it though. But I guess it's what you get with Kamara and it makes him stand out as a player who can do the basic stuff very well and can jazz it up now and then in a whim. I'd have no problem if it was in midfield as the risk of failure isn't so high even though I do remember one occasion where he did something similar previously which got punished.
I still love him even so. Player of the season so far in my book.
Leicester in 2023 when they won 4-2. Two came from Kamara losing it stupidly.
She takes the Sky shilling as well. But the video was pretty much her style, just on the amazon prime youtube channel instead.
She takes the Sky shilling as well. But the video was pretty much her style, just on the amazon prime youtube channel instead.She's had the rough edges knocked off - almost a bit too polished now.
Can StuntPegg speak Italian? Her surname is Petruzziellio or something like that.
Can StuntPegg speak Italian? Her surname is Petruzziellio or something like that.
Any relation to the 70s TV lawyer?
He is going to be a top player for us.
BK can play centre half as well and started his career there
I could see him performing very well next to Mings.
Can step into Midfield and give Douglas Luiz the 6 role
He is going to be a top player for us.
Hookey well played on spotting his talent straightawayBK can play centre half as well and started his career there
I could see him performing very well next to Mings.
Can step into Midfield and give Douglas Luiz the 6 role
I remember saying about centre back and even though dismissed by some I knew he would end up playing there
He is going to be a top player for us.
Hookey well played on spotting his talent straightawayBK can play centre half as well and started his career there
I could see him performing very well next to Mings.
Can step into Midfield and give Douglas Luiz the 6 role
I remember saying about centre back and even though dismissed by some I knew he would end up playing there
He is going to be a top player for us.
Hookey well played on spotting his talent straightawayBK can play centre half as well and started his career there
I could see him performing very well next to Mings.
Can step into Midfield and give Douglas Luiz the 6 role
I remember saying about centre back and even though dismissed by some I knew he would end up playing there
Could you tell me the lottery numbers please?
He is going to be a top player for us.
Hookey well played on spotting his talent straightawayBK can play centre half as well and started his career there
I could see him performing very well next to Mings.
Can step into Midfield and give Douglas Luiz the 6 role
I remember saying about centre back and even though dismissed by some I knew he would end up playing there
Could you tell me the lottery numbers please?
I can certainly give you the numbers from August 2022
I remember saying about centre back and even though dismissed by some I knew he would end up playing there
Could you tell me the lottery numbers please?
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Its even better if you do it online, then you get a text/email to say 'you've won!', have a breeze around the Ferrari showrooms for a few days, then log onto your account to discover you've nearly won enough to buy another ticket for next week.
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Its even better if you do it online, then you get a text/email to say 'you've won!', have a breeze around the Ferrari showrooms for a few days, then log onto your account to discover you've nearly won enough to buy another ticket for next week.
I do this.
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Does anyone else on here do the lottery and then for a few days not check the ticket. I use that time to fantasises that I’ve won and that the lottery people are just waiting for me to get in touch.
Its even better if you do it online, then you get a text/email to say 'you've won!', have a breeze around the Ferrari showrooms for a few days, then log onto your account to discover you've nearly won enough to buy another ticket for next week.
I do this.
Yeah, if you win a tenner you can at least get a pint or something. When you check the win and end up with a 'Lucky Dip'. Fuck off.
We got 5 of the 6 once, got about 2k for it.
Does that make you ‘up’ overall?
We got 5 of the 6 once, got about 2k for it.
We got 5 of the 6 once, got about 2k for it.
They should make the prizes less extreme in either direction. 5 out of 6 numbers should get you more than a couple of grand (as nice as that is to get). Anyway, this discussion doesn't belong here and should go in the Disasi thread instead.
We got 5 of the 6 once, got about 2k for it.
They should make the prizes less extreme in either direction. 5 out of 6 numbers should get you more than a couple of grand (as nice as that is to get). Anyway, this discussion doesn't belong here and should go in the Disasi thread instead.
Agreed on both counts, but I think even the 2k was a higher amount than usual for 5.
The thing about the lottery is it is the worst odds versus payout offering there is.
Odds of getting 3 numbers: 97/1.
At £2 a ticket that should be paying you £194.
What does it pay? £25 or something.
So even knowing all that and even having worked in the industry for years, why do I continue to play my numbers every week? Because I feel if I do not, then they will come in, so I have to play.
That’s what is known in the industry as “gambler’s fallacy” and is a massive contributor to the money involved in the industry.
I occasionally play Euromillions, just seem to have more luck on it than the national lottery. The most I've won is €48 when I had 4 numbers.
There's a guy in our local village who won just under £500,000 on the Irish lottery in the early 90s. A few years later he was part of a work syndicate that also won the national lottery. Then, about 10 years later my parents were at a dinner dance that was the culmination of a fund raising effort for a local GAA club, and had a draw with a first prize of €10,000. The same fella popped in at the end of the night and bought some tickets for the draw. He won that too, which didn't go down particularly well with those in attendance.
The thing about the lottery is it is the worst odds versus payout offering there is.
Odds of getting 3 numbers: 97/1.
At £2 a ticket that should be paying you £194.
What does it pay? £25 or something.
So even knowing all that and even having worked in the industry for years, why do I continue to play my numbers every week? Because I feel if I do not, then they will come in, so I have to play.
That’s what is known in the industry as “gambler’s fallacy” and is a massive contributor to the money involved in the industry.
There is a conspiracy theory that if you use random generated choice a selected number gets dropped from the draw, whereas if you use your own chosen numbers this cannot be done as the system didn't generate the numbers in the first place, apparently statistics show that a big win has never been from a random generated choice - interesting concept, probably bollocks as the odds for a win are huge already.
You tube really keeps me up at night!
As someone once said”The Lottery run the incredibly risky business of taking a lot of our money off us and giving a little bit back”The thing about the lottery is it is the worst odds versus payout offering there is.
Odds of getting 3 numbers: 97/1.
At £2 a ticket that should be paying you £194.
What does it pay? £25 or something.
So even knowing all that and even having worked in the industry for years, why do I continue to play my numbers every week? Because I feel if I do not, then they will come in, so I have to play.
That’s what is known in the industry as “gambler’s fallacy” and is a massive contributor to the money involved in the industry.
A tax on the poor, the feckless and the hopelessly optimistic.
that's meThe thing about the lottery is it is the worst odds versus payout offering there is.
Odds of getting 3 numbers: 97/1.
At £2 a ticket that should be paying you £194.
What does it pay? £25 or something.
So even knowing all that and even having worked in the industry for years, why do I continue to play my numbers every week? Because I feel if I do not, then they will come in, so I have to play.
That’s what is known in the industry as “gambler’s fallacy” and is a massive contributor to the money involved in the industry.
A tax on the poor, the feckless and the hopelessly optimistic.
As someone once said”The Lottery run the incredibly risky business of taking a lot of our money off us and giving a little bit back”The thing about the lottery is it is the worst odds versus payout offering there is.
Odds of getting 3 numbers: 97/1.
At £2 a ticket that should be paying you £194.
What does it pay? £25 or something.
So even knowing all that and even having worked in the industry for years, why do I continue to play my numbers every week? Because I feel if I do not, then they will come in, so I have to play.
That’s what is known in the industry as “gambler’s fallacy” and is a massive contributor to the money involved in the industry.
A tax on the poor, the feckless and the hopelessly optimistic.
The thing about the lottery is it is the worst odds versus payout offering there is.
Odds of getting 3 numbers: 97/1.
At £2 a ticket that should be paying you £194.
What does it pay? £25 or something.
So even knowing all that and even having worked in the industry for years, why do I continue to play my numbers every week? Because I feel if I do not, then they will come in, so I have to play.
That’s what is known in the industry as “gambler’s fallacy” and is a massive contributor to the money involved in the industry.
A tax on the poor, the feckless and the hopelessly optimistic.
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I'm as liberal as anyone but I don't that's a good idea at this time of the day.
So then....should we rest Bouba today in readiness for p.lop
So then....should we rest Bouba today in readiness for p.lop
The injuries are becoming almost comical in number. Can it be purely bad luck or do we have to look at our S&C team more closely. Its not as if we play a high tempo. Its the backdrop to our season that I think will be the determining factor of missing out on Europe in the league.Look at Citeh Manure Arse Spurs etc.
Here’s a theory…I think you are probably right. Also players have scans for everything these days which I’m sure picks up minor issues when in the past they just rested for a day or two then played again.
Because we are allowed 5 subs, players are now told to come off if they feel a twinge whereas in the olden days of three subs they’d risk it and hope they could run it off. I’m sure there’s something in this theory, yet our twinges seem to last two or three weeks out.
Here’s a theory…Good theory
Because we are allowed 5 subs, players are now told to come off if they feel a twinge whereas in the olden days of three subs they’d risk it and hope they could run it off. I’m sure there’s something in this theory, yet our twinges seem to last two or three weeks out.
Unai Emery said he doesn't think the injury to Kamara is too serious, but he's not entirely sure at the moment.
Emery explained further about Kamara's injury problem: "He was ready to play with some problem in his back, but the injury was not coming from his back, it’s his hamstring. He is trying to analyse and meet with the doctors and physios a lot and how we can get better. Exactly why, it’s difficult."
Tricky Blighters hamstrings.
Nah, this bloke.Tricky Blighters hamstrings.
Sounds like a Steven Knight-produced medical drama.
And another half a dozen would be out.
There was no talk of him being injured, I think it was just that we didn't need all of him, Tielemans and McGinn when we're going to be pushing onto them in the second half.
I think if it wasn't a change of tactics and we're playing the same way, then Onana or Bogarde probably come on in his place instead of Bailey.
How are Rashford and Disasi close to a suspension? I don't get that, they've hardly played in Europe have they?
How are Rashford and Disasi close to a suspension? I don't get that, they've hardly played in Europe have they?
But they've played enough for Disasi to get booked against Gent and Panathinaikos and Rashford to get booked against Viktoria Plzen and Fenerbahce.
I wondered when they did reset. Assuming we are playing a holding role at PSG the same as we do at places like Arsenal, and the speed they can move makes me think we might get a yellow card suspension for the 2nd leg anyway.I thought a PSG player (captain ? ) was booked against 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' and they said he will miss the qf ?
Marquinhos - their captain and best centre-back is out of the first leg.
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to MaatsenTrump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to Maatsen
Trump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to Maatsen
Trump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
If (s)he's not playing, PSG will Walz though our midfield. Dougie won't be available either.
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to MaatsenTrump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to Maatsen
Trump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
If (s)he's not playing, PSG will Walz though our midfield. Dougie won't be available either.
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to Maatsen
Trump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
If (s)he's not playing, PSG will Walz though our midfield. Dougie won't be available either.
Don't beat around the Bush.
Yes please
Thanks Dave. Kamala is the key man there, though I much prefer Digne defensively to MaatsenTrump always said she wasn’t the woman she was trying to be.
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
For me if its a choice if signing rashford or new contra t for kamara im going kam
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
For me if its a choice if signing rashford or new contra t for kamara im going kam
That’s a good conundrum: Rashford v Asensio v Kamara extension. You can only choose one.
🚨💣 Aston Villa have started talks with Boubacar Kamara over a new contract.Protecting our assets . If we don't make champions league next season and somebody wants him it means we can demand top money . It's a good strategic business move .
@JPercyTelegraph
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
For me if its a choice if signing rashford or new contra t for kamara im going kam
That’s a good conundrum: Rashford v Asensio v Kamara extension. You can only choose one.
The only nagging doubt will be the amount of games he has played injury free in 3 years. When he has an injury it's usually a big oneGood shout that . He's not great if he's out injured so often . Onana is another .
Probably what put others off when we signed him on a "free" (huge signing on fee to agent/player) .
Probably what put others off when we signed him on a "free" (huge signing on fee to agent/player) .
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
Yeah he's not worth it. We need the wages bringing under control and in line with the rules.Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
I hope not. Our wages are out of control as it is, and he ain't worth that.
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
I hope not. Our wages are out of control as it is, and he ain't worth that.
Kamara has something to prove? Are we watching the same player? If he runs his contract down everyone at the top level will be in.No he needs a new contract obviously to protect the asset . He needs to prove he can stay consistently fit with the demands and rigours of the EPL. If he can't then it's a factor . He's been out for lengthy periods since he joined.
It funny - as his injuries have probably made this possible. He is one of the very best in his position in the world.I rate him but I think that's a bit OTT. He didn't make the last French squad did he ?
Him signing a new contract would be a huge boost. Out of our permentent players - I would say its only him and Emi where it would be virtually impossible for us to buy a player that is at a compariable level.
I think there are so few that play in his position at his level, its is easy to underestimate just how good he is.It funny - as his injuries have probably made this possible. He is one of the very best in his position in the world.I rate him but I think that's a bit OTT. He didn't make the last French squad did he ?
Him signing a new contract would be a huge boost. Out of our permentent players - I would say its only him and Emi where it would be virtually impossible for us to buy a player that is at a compariable level.
These next few weeks will be his chance to show he can do it v the likes of PSG home and away etc. The stage is his now .
96% of turnover going on wages is the last official take we have .
Would Alan Smith saying he’s good, make him good?
He’s absolutely top class.
In our squad, Martinez, Kamara and Asensio are on a different level to the rest.
I'd put Torres, Mings (on his day), Rogers (as he has the potential) behind those.
If we are paying silly top dollar to any player, then Kamara is at the top of the list for me.
In our squad, Martinez, Kamara and Asensio are on a different level to the rest.
I'd put Torres, Mings (on his day), Rogers (as he has the potential) behind those.
If we are paying silly top dollar to any player, then Kamara is at the top of the list for me.
I think you have to mention Konsa somewhere in that.
In our squad, Martinez, Kamara and Asensio are on a different level to the rest.
I'd put Torres, Mings (on his day), Rogers (as he has the potential) behind those.
If we are paying silly top dollar to any player, then Kamara is at the top of the list for me.
Would Alan Smith saying he’s good, make him good?
He’s absolutely top class.
It’s stupid to even consider Kamara’s attacking metrics. He’s basically a defender in our system.When you say Luiz you mean Nakamba.
He’s much more important to us than Luiz ever was
Would Alan Smith saying he’s good, make him good?
He’s absolutely top class.
Add Glendenning and Winter and you've got yourself a deal.
It’s stupid to even consider Kamara’s attacking metrics. He’s basically a defender in our system.When you say Luiz you mean Nakamba.
He’s much more important to us than Luiz ever was
Kamara is important in the system but Douglas Luiz was one of the best midfielders in our premier league history. Kamara is a great player and very classy for sure.
Ok so who like to compare Kamara to? Saying he’s our Roddi is folly as he doesn’t have that influence on the team .
I would still say Luiz is better all round midfielder who could do everything.
Who is keeping him out of the French squad ?
The French team just has a ridiculous pool of talent.
Wellllll, yes; but ...
Kamara is important in the system but Douglas Luiz was one of the best midfielders in our premier league history. Kamara is a great player and very classy for sure ... I would still say Luiz is better all round midfielder who could do everything.
The French team just has a ridiculous pool of talent.
That's basically it. When he's fit and playing regularly for us, he's usually included. If he isn't, they've got the aforementioned Tchouaméni, but also Zaïre-Emery, Camavinga, Fofana, Rabiot...
They're not calling Jordan Henderson out of retirement.
And also Tchouaméni who is also a top player.
All midfielders should have capabilities like that
Regarding French squad players Manu Kone has also been pretty good when I’ve seen him. It’s safe to say that no matter how good we think Kamara is he’s got plenty of competition in the French national team.Yep take the claret n blue specs off and he's in a pool with some other talent and at the moment he's not quite in .
It’s stupid to even consider Kamara’s attacking metrics. He’s basically a defender in our system.When you say Luiz you mean Nakamba.
He’s much more important to us than Luiz ever was
Kamara is important in the system but Douglas Luiz was one of the best midfielders in our premier league history. Kamara is a great player and very classy for sure.
Ok so who like to compare Kamara to? Saying he’s our Roddi is folly as he doesn’t have that influence on the team .
I would still say Luiz is better all round midfielder who could do everything.
Why would I mean Nakamba?
Luiz couldn’t do everything, he was often really poor as a 6, for starters. He’s far from being one of the best midfielders in our Premier League history.
To say Luiz was one of the best midfielders in our PL history is with all due respect complete nonsense. Of the top of my head.
Townsend, Taylor, Richardson, Cowans, Paul Mortimer (okay I lied) were all better.
All midfielders should have capabilities like that
That's just daft. Claude Makelele scored four league goals across his whole ten years with Real Madrid, Chelsea and PSG. Sergio Busquets scored twenty across a thousand matches for Barcelona and Spain.
Kamara is a class act but so was and is dougie . We haven’t replaced Dougies goals and Luiz was the ultimate midfielder.
Protecting ourselves with a new contract but he’s hardly irreplaceable.
Kamara doesn’t offer goals or take set pieces like Roddi, Luiz or Rice but for a 6 and sitting he’s great. His offensive play is lacking so fails on that metric .
Thing with Luiz he was amazing as could play 6,8 even 10 . What a player he became for us. And those two together for me there wasn’t a better midfield pair in the premier league last season.
I do wonder if Prem is too robust for him as he’s picked up injuries here too frequently.
also how affiliated is he to Villa I wonder if he expected Villa to rise to such heights and what are his long term plans ?
Every time I see the name Gravenbach I think of that advert of the little squirty bloke trying to impress the south East Asian parents of his girlfriend.
Good points, Footy. Kamara isn't banned from the final third, the occasional howitzer from outside the box shouldn't be beyond him.It should be if the manager doesn't want him to do it, which I'd suggest, is exactly the case.
Or Unai doesn’t run off the bench to nod one or two in!.Good points, Footy. Kamara isn't banned from the final third, the occasional howitzer from outside the box shouldn't be beyond him.It should be if the manager doesn't want him to do it, which I'd suggest, is exactly the case.
Next we'll be moaning that Martinez doesn't push up/score enough.
or Macphee isn't personally taking the corners
I really don't care whether Kamara scores the odd screamer or not, it shouldn't alter your opinion of his qualities.
It was only aimed to bring about Kamara goal contributions that’s all.
It was only aimed to bring about Kamara goal contributions that’s all.
He doesn't do any. And it doesn't matter at all, because that's not what he's in the team to do.
All good?
Well ok but when he’s reverend to as our Rodri then goal scoring comes into play.
Well ok but when he’s reverend to as our Rodri then goal scoring comes into play.
Aside from the goal keeper I would argue a player in the top league in 2025 should be able to score a goal whatever position they play.
Essential to our team yes and perhaps I getting the feedback and idea form discussion here that it’s not seen as essential for him to have any goal threat whatsoever -that’s where I debate to disagree.
He's probably our best player.its not as simple as that . We have a few equally good , probably better players .
He's probably our best player.
He's probably our best player.its not as simple as that . We have a few equally good , probably better players .
Exactly this.
Martinez
Mings
Rogers
Ascensio
All better / more valuable , probably a couple of others on a par .
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
Well I think it’s understood more or less that Kamara is an excellent player in his role as a 6 and wouldn’t swap him for those other 6s but would like him to step up on a creative side when necessary , not like all the time.
Hes obviously better than Nakamba but for shooting he’s not much ability and if the ball falls to him when he does play higher up against low block opposition he needs to offer that.
That’s the essence of things regards the Kamara goal scoring debate.
He's probably our best player.its not as simple as that . We have a few equally good , probably better players .
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
Martinez
Mings
Rogers
Ascensio
All better / more valuable , probably a couple of others on a par .
I rate him but I think that's a bit OTT. He didn't make the last French squad did he ?
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
He's French, he may not understand what rapport means.
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
He's French, he may not understand what rapport means.
Chapeau, mon ami, chapeau.
Also why do so many of us, as fans, seem to like and respect him so much? Just because he's not a social media hound, he's not chasing "likes" in the same way he doesn't chase the glory of being on the end of crosses to score goals. His job is to look cool as fuck and protect our back four. He's the man that stands in when one of our CBs has gone on those long, lung busting runs we so adore. He's the guy that's hanging round the back of the bike sheds smoking a Gauloises Filterless and offering a little shrug in answer to any question he's asked. Coolest kid on campus. He's like Snoopy when he's in Joe Cool mode. Sunglasses and an ironic smile, listening to Andy Williams and Burt Bacharach. Don't try and chain him down he's the sassiest guy in the disco, he doesn't dance, he's way beyond that.
The crucial player for the PSG game. Particularly as in France, his progress has not really been followed since he joined us. At that time, in response to questions, Deschamps said he "didn't understand" the move to Villa (rather than one of the traditional European powerhouses). There's a sense that he's paid the price by falling down the pecking order with Les Bleus. He's had a few begrudging call-ups, but (injury notwithstanding) next to no game time. In advance of the game, no one is talking him up as a player, but rather referring to the "ex marseillais" - as though he were some journeyman.
So Bouba, time to step up and put yourself on the map.
Agree entirely, Rudy, it was insulting.The crucial player for the PSG game. Particularly as in France, his progress has not really been followed since he joined us. At that time, in response to questions, Deschamps said he "didn't understand" the move to Villa (rather than one of the traditional European powerhouses). There's a sense that he's paid the price by falling down the pecking order with Les Bleus. He's had a few begrudging call-ups, but (injury notwithstanding) next to no game time. In advance of the game, no one is talking him up as a player, but rather referring to the "ex marseillais" - as though he were some journeyman.
So Bouba, time to step up and put yourself on the map.
Deschamps is a fool. Bouba canceled his honeymoon to join up with the France squad for some pointless friendlies (if memory serves) and didn't get a kick.
Some harsh critics on here.
I opine that if Bouba had been fit & played every game this season, we would be above Forest; he's that important.
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
He's French, he may not understand what rapport means.
Some harsh critics on here.
I opine that if Bouba had been fit & played every game this season, we would be above Forest; he's that important.
Harsh critics? He's mostly being fondled, snogged and licked as far as I can see on this thread.
Mings was an England regular prior to his severe injury. Ascensio is decorated with winners medals and he's scoring for fun .
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
He's French, he may not understand what rapport means.
Chapeau, mon ami, chapeau.
Also why do so many of us, as fans, seem to like and respect him so much? Just because he's not a social media hound, he's not chasing "likes" in the same way he doesn't chase the glory of being on the end of crosses to score goals. His job is to look cool as fuck and protect our back four. He's the man that stands in when one of our CBs has gone on those long, lung busting runs we so adore. He's the guy that's hanging round the back of the bike sheds smoking a Gauloises Filterless and offering a little shrug in answer to any question he's asked. Coolest kid on campus. He's like Snoopy when he's in Joe Cool mode. Sunglasses and an ironic smile, listening to Andy Williams and Burt Bacharach. Don't try and chain him down he's the sassiest guy in the disco, he doesn't dance, he's way beyond that.
I think this post just got me pregnant.
Correct, Bouba is world class.Some harsh critics on here.
I opine that if Bouba had been fit & played every game this season, we would be above Forest; he's that important.
Harsh critics? He's mostly being fondled, snogged and licked as far as I can see on this thread.
Presumably he’s talking about those saying he’s not that good and another saying he’s overrated.
Rodri wouldn’t even know how to lace Bouba’s boots.Thank you for underlining in bold some of the hyperbole . Appreciate it .
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
He's French, he may not understand what rapport means.
Chapeau, mon ami, chapeau.
Also why do so many of us, as fans, seem to like and respect him so much? Just because he's not a social media hound, he's not chasing "likes" in the same way he doesn't chase the glory of being on the end of crosses to score goals. His job is to look cool as fuck and protect our back four. He's the man that stands in when one of our CBs has gone on those long, lung busting runs we so adore. He's the guy that's hanging round the back of the bike sheds smoking a Gauloises Filterless and offering a little shrug in answer to any question he's asked. Coolest kid on campus. He's like Snoopy when he's in Joe Cool mode. Sunglasses and an ironic smile, listening to Andy Williams and Burt Bacharach. Don't try and chain him down he's the sassiest guy in the disco, he doesn't dance, he's way beyond that.
I think this post just got me pregnant.
If ever I need a dating site profile I want you to write it :)
Also he hasn’t establish any rapport with the fans and zero affiliation.
He’s established a rapport with me. He told me he thinks you’re a knob.
Without question, for me, Kamara is our most important outfield player. His build up play is the basis of our attacking set up. He is almost always press resistant and his defensive reading of the game is amongst the best there is. Because of his reading of the game, his interceptions aren’t showy but display a much stronger and faster reading of the play as there’s not as much physical recovery of situations. He is the definition of a rolls royce of player. Oozes class with his every touch, feint and pass between the lines.The only other Villa player, that I remember, with the ability to be 90% of the time in the right place at the right time to do all above was God himself......step forward Paul McGrath.
What about Reo-Coker and McCannt?How could I forget them when considering a pantheon of greatness, I feel thoroughly ashamed.
Fucking imperious again today. Really special player.I just said similar on match thread. A very good day all around for him and his family.
It astounds me how the ‘pundits’ on TV never, ever highlight just how important and influential he is.So many of the “pundits” are clueless
It astounds me how the ‘pundits’ on TV never, ever highlight just how important and influential he is.
Without question, for me, Kamara is our most important outfield player. His build up play is the basis of our attacking set up. He is almost always press resistant and his defensive reading of the game is amongst the best there is. Because of his reading of the game, his interceptions aren’t showy but display a much stronger and faster reading of the play as there’s not as much physical recovery of situations. He is the definition of a rolls royce of player. Oozes class with his every touch, feint and pass between the lines.The only other Villa player, that I remember, with the ability to be 90% of the time in the right place at the right time to do all above was God himself......step forward Paul McGrath.
He did lose the ball a few times so not quite God just yet.I watched a re run this morning
🚨💣 Aston Villa will do everything to keep Boubacar Kamara — the idea is to offer him a historic contract with ‘unprecedented terms’ for the club.
@footmercato
Working on the alternative to, ‘ He was a showgirl’ in the second line.
Working on the alternative to, ‘ He was a showgirl’ in the second line.
His name is Bouba,
A midfield Maesto,
He has massive fuzzy hair,
And a contract waiting there
(It's a work in progress).
We scored three and he didn't score any of them, the big loser.
We scored three and he didn't score any of them, the big loser.
We scored three and he didn't score any of them, the big loser.
He's shit. And no rapport with the fans either.
Our best player. Just a dream to watch.
Our best player. Just a dream to watch.
Thirded.Our best player. Just a dream to watch.
Ditto.
Working on the alternative to, ‘ He was a showgirl’ in the second line.
His name is Bouba,
A midfield Maesto,
He has massive fuzzy hair,
And a contract waiting there
(It's a work in progress).
Working on the alternative to, ‘ He was a showgirl’ in the second line.
His name is Bouba,
A midfield Maesto,
He has massive fuzzy hair,
And a contract waiting there
(It's a work in progress).
His name is Bouba
Bouba Kamara
You can play him anywhere...
Try to beat him if you dare?
Villa legend we declare?
The man's like Red Adair...
Love Bouba, but he has been uncharacteristically off form in a few games of late. He’s looked slow, quite easily pushed off the ball, and sloppy on the ball. I’m sure it’s form or tiredness or both, but it’s come at a really bad time.
Love Bouba, but he has been uncharacteristically off form in a few games of late. He’s looked slow, quite easily pushed off the ball, and sloppy on the ball. I’m sure it’s form or tiredness or both, but it’s come at a really bad time.
I think the lack of a preseason has caught up with him. It was pleasing (and surprising) how up to speed he was after returning from his injury.Let’s hope it’s not because his head has been turned by another club. Wouldn’t surprise me if he goes in the summer. Hopefully not to Man f in City
He doesn’t look like himself at any rate.
We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
He isn't though . He's good but not that good (see PSGx2 and Palace games recently) . Top players turn up when it matters most .We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
He isn't though . He's good but not that good (see PSGx2 and Palace games recently) . Top players turn up when it matters most .We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
Fair point . Deschamps is a good judge though .He isn't though . He's good but not that good (see PSGx2 and Palace games recently) . Top players turn up when it matters most .We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
Honestly you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about
imo
Aren't we supposed to be arranging a big contract to keep him?Fair point . Deschamps is a good judge though .He isn't though . He's good but not that good (see PSGx2 and Palace games recently) . Top players turn up when it matters most .We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
Honestly you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about
imo
Yes and if you scroll back that was the start of the debate . Someone said pay him whatever it takes . Which I questioned and still would .Aren't we supposed to be arranging a big contract to keep him?Fair point . Deschamps is a good judge though .He isn't though . He's good but not that good (see PSGx2 and Palace games recently) . Top players turn up when it matters most .We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
Honestly you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about
imo
We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
He's exceptional. Ignore the Jermaine Beckford loving clown.
Opposite for me, he's an important factor for us to continue progressing.Yes and if you scroll back that was the start of the debate . Someone said pay him whatever it takes . Which I questioned and still would .Aren't we supposed to be arranging a big contract to keep him?Fair point . Deschamps is a good judge though .He isn't though . He's good but not that good (see PSGx2 and Palace games recently) . Top players turn up when it matters most .We’d be crazy to sell him unless he wanted out. He’s prob in the top 5 players in the world in his position.If you take off the c&b specs though he really isn't
He absolutely is
Honestly you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about
imo
Don’t feed the troll.I'll try not to.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
He got a dreadful injury and since coming back has pretty much been a mainstay. He is now looking shattered, hardly surprising as he had no pre season.
The bloke is our best outfield player and we should move heaven and earth to keep him.
Don’t feed the troll.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
Such a great player and hopefully we can keep him for a good few years to come.Don’t feed the troll.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
This.
Don’t feed the troll.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
Don’t feed the troll.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
Genuine question, who are the better DMs? Rhodri definitely. Rice, Caciedo, Gavenbach would be in the conversation. It’s a weirdly unique position and he’s mastered it at a younger age than most.
Don’t feed the troll.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
Genuine question, who are the better DMs? Rhodri definitely. Rice, Caciedo, Gavenbach would be in the conversation. It’s a weirdly unique position and he’s mastered it at a younger age than most.
Guimarães, Tchouameni, Kimmich, João Neves, Zubimendi would also be part of the conversation. He's definitely in that sort of company though.
He’s been a bit off the boil, understandably. He is still a fantastic player.
Don’t feed the troll.
Kamara is one of the very best in that holding midfield role there is, and he plays for us.
Genuine question, who are the better DMs? Rhodri definitely. Rice, Caciedo, Gavenbach would be in the conversation. It’s a weirdly unique position and he’s mastered it at a younger age than most.
Guimarães, Tchouameni, Kimmich, João Neves, Zubimendi would also be part of the conversation. He's definitely in that sort of company though.
🚨🧨 A long-term contract is on the table for Boubacar Kamara. Other clubs have contacted the players’ representatives, asking to be kept informed on discussions but Kamara wants to stay in the Premier League & talks are progressing.
@J_Tanswell
Seems to me that he doesn’t sit as deep when Onana plays alongside. Neither of them sits deep proper, as though they were both half covering the space.
Am sure someone could turn that word soup into intelligible football tactics!
Seems to me that he doesn’t sit as deep when Onana plays alongside. Neither of them sits deep proper, as though they were both half covering the space.
Am sure someone could turn that word soup into intelligible football tactics!
The mythical ‘double pivot’ ?
If Bouba leaves now he scored his only league goal in his final game in front of the Holte. I’m not crying you’re crying :(
Seems to me that he doesn’t sit as deep when Onana plays alongside. Neither of them sits deep proper, as though they were both half covering the space.
Am sure someone could turn that word soup into intelligible football tactics!
[/quotSeems to me that he doesn’t sit as deep when Onana plays alongside. Neither of them sits deep proper, as though they were both half covering the space.
Am sure someone could turn that word soup into intelligible football tactics!
Yes, good observation, you are probably right this. He’s definitely in and the box a little more.
And Caster, the mythical ‘double pivot’, it’s been ace for us since Onana has been fully fit and playing. I hated it for England under Southgate, but somehow Emery makes it smooth, fluid and dynamic.
Onana and Kamara seem to really compliment each other. I’ve been so impressed with Onana since his injury.
I’d really like him to sign that new contract.
I realise no one has actually left yet, but am feeling a bit tetchy this morning.
Wasn't it Footie who was having a go about him a few months ago for not offering a goalscoring threat?
Wasn't it Footie who was having a go about him a few months ago for not offering a goalscoring threat?
Well, to be fair…
Wasn't it Footie who was having a go about him a few months ago for not offering a goalscoring threat?
Well, to be fair…
He plays 2 games alongside Onana and has 2 shots on target the first game and scores the second. Would suggest it's more tactics and personnel related.
His celebration was hilarious, that crossing the arms X-Factor thing like some shit rapper or Boyband member in the 90s.was he giving it the irons sign like Jader used to
Percy teasing us by saying Bouba is in 'advanced talks.'Oh please be true!
All gone a bit quiet wrt Bouba. Hopefully he's still on his holidays, but an update confirming the new contract has been signed would be most welcome.
Is he waiting for another Bosman payday? When does his contract expire?
Is he waiting for another Bosman payday? When does his contract expire?
June 2027. So there's plenty of time left
All gone a bit quiet wrt Bouba. Hopefully he's still on his holidays, but an update confirming the new contract has been signed would be most welcome.
My guess is that there was a contract that both parties were happy with as long as we finished in the top five. As we didn't, he's probably going to see how this season goes and see where he is and where we are. If we're in the Champions League 26/27 he signs again, if we're not he's only got a year left so the club reluctantly sells him to someone who is.
Unless he had worries about his injuries coming back and wants the security of the contract, then I think that's the obvious way to play it from his perspective.
He is in the perfect position
2 years on contract so we will undoubtably offer him a mega one to sign
If he delays for a year our asking price will go down and he may be back in Champs league
If he runs his contract down he will get a huge fee from elsewhere
He's in a great bargaining spot for sure and we aren't. The one we should be thanking and moving towards the exit door, not Martinez. Very talented player don't get me wrong but froze in some big games last season.I wouldn't want to see him go - he's a key player for us - but I get why he might. He's one of the 2-3 players that would make us serious transfer income and remove a (presumably) high wage off the people bill.
No way do we let him leave for free. He will be off next summer if he doesn’t sign.
With money so tight, much like Watkins the question needs to be asked, how much will we get for him next summer compared to this? He's a wonderful player but apparently we've put a club record contract in front of him and until now he hasn't signed. Fuck Champions League, I never heard him complaining picking up his salary every month, having the best medical care money could buy when he was injured.
Footballers are entirely entitled to do this. I don't blame them looking after number 1 for a moment, if it is something they're legally entitled to do.
I cant see why he wouldn't sign the higher salaried contract but with a release clause if we don't make the CL.
Of course they are, that's stating the obvious but I do wonder what are his motives. If he doesn't want to play for us I'd prefer he fucked off now rather than later or worst still at the end of his contract for nothing. As for looking after number 1, how many millions is enough? Maybe it's not greed, maybe playing in the CL will enhance his chances of getting in the French squad, maybe it's his agent looking after number 1 or he's been tapped up.
What I do know is next summer we are going to face similar financial headaches as the UEFA financial rules kick in for the PL. If player trading is our only real way to try and compete, then we need to maximise sales values no matter who they are.
Footballers are entirely entitled to do this. I don't blame them looking after number 1 for a moment, if it is something they're legally entitled to do.
I don't see why more of them don't.
Footballers are entirely entitled to do this. I don't blame them looking after number 1 for a moment, if it is something they're legally entitled to do.
I don't see why more of them don't.
Do they need to, Lee? It seems the big money in football has moved from the clubs to the players. There doesn't seem to be as much money about for transfers but players salaries appear to have gone up astronomically.
Not sure how true the values are here but it's interesting and even fun when you look at other clubs.
https://www.capology.com/club/aston-villa/salaries/
We can’t really sign players who run down their contracts and then get annoyed if they do the same thing with us.
There's the risk of getting injured with only a few months left on your contract I suppose. You'd be up shit creek then (relatively speaking of course).
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
No, but if Finn Azaz and Kaine Kesler-Hayden go on to become global superstars after we sold them for not much money, we should probaby just accept that sometimes you win at transfers and sometimes you lose at them.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
We can’t really sign players who run down their contracts and then get annoyed if they do the same thing with us.
This is a joke, right? If not I've got some magic beans you may be interested in for the right price.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.
It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.
You appear to be under the misapprehension that the power is with the club not the player.He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.
The trick is to gain as much as possible from transfers, the only way be can try to compete with the higher stadium revenue clubs above us and not get caught with your trousers down. It's really not that difficult to understand.
It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.
The trick is to gain as much as possible from transfers, the only way be can try to compete with the higher stadium revenue clubs above us and not get caught with your trousers down. It's really not that difficult to understand.
It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.
Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?
It really is that simple.
He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.
We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.
No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.
Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?
It really is that simple.
Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?
It really is that simple.
Again, I’m not saying we shouldn’t look to get a return. I’m saying we shouldn’t be annoyed if he runs his contract down, we should have fully understood that might be something he specifically would do.
Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?
It really is that simple.
Do you think that people are saying that they want Kamara to leave for nothing, rather than simply acknowledging it as something that could happen?
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?
Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.
No but it might focus his mind on a move.RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?
Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.
You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
No but it might focus his mind on a move.RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?
Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.
You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
No but it might focus his mind on a move.RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?
Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.
You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
And what benefit would it be to us, having one of our most important players training with the kids?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face.
Would probably also focus the minds of the next Tielemans or Kamara when they're deciding whether they want to give the next few years of their career to a club that views them as cattle.
No but it might focus his mind on a move.RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?
Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.
You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
And what benefit would it be to us, having one of our most important players training with the kids?
Cutting your nose off to spite your face.
I know Kamara has previous on it but I think CL football and getting into the France team would surely trump running down his contract with us.
It’s not nonsense just because you don’t agree with it you know. It’s hardly a completely mad take to think that a player who has runs his contract down before might do it again. Doesn’t mean the club shouldn’t make every effort, but the point is he clearly views it as a viable thing to do.
It’s not nonsense just because you don’t agree with it you know. It’s hardly a completely mad take to think that a player who has runs his contract down before might do it again. Doesn’t mean the club shouldn’t make every effort, but the point is he clearly views it as a viable thing to do.
Letting him go for free would today equal losing the equivalent of 14% of our turnover based on a sale of £50m. To put that in perspective, Heck's price increases of the Champions League games was said to have raised an additional total of £900k.
Letting him go for free would today equal losing the equivalent of 14% of our turnover based on a sale of £50m. To put that in perspective, Heck's price increases of the Champions League games was said to have raised an additional total of £900k.
We wouldn't let him go for free today, we'd be letting him go for free in 2 years time after we've (hopefully) had two more years of high-level play from him. Given that we got him for free, he'd be neutral in the books.
If we sold him today for £50m, we would probably have to spend at least that for someone 80% as good as Kamara, plus the added costs and risks of acquiring and integrating any new player.
There's no guarantee that Onana and/or Barrenechea can replace him at the same level.
“ we should sell him”Letting him go for free would today equal losing the equivalent of 14% of our turnover based on a sale of £50m. To put that in perspective, Heck's price increases of the Champions League games was said to have raised an additional total of £900k.
We wouldn't let him go for free today, we'd be letting him go for free in 2 years time after we've (hopefully) had two more years of high-level play from him. Given that we got him for free, he'd be neutral in the books.
If we sold him today for £50m, we would probably have to spend at least that for someone 80% as good as Kamara, plus the added costs and risks of acquiring and integrating any new player.
There's no guarantee that Onana and/or Barrenechea can replace him at the same level.
But it’s the headroom we’d also benefit from by selling him. The owners want to spend the money but can’t right now because of the rules. Even £50m from a free transfer would be very much welcomed to give us more flexibility to operate in the transfer market. If he’s not going to sign his new contract we should sell him.
Letting him go for free would today equal losing the equivalent of 14% of our turnover based on a sale of £50m. To put that in perspective, Heck's price increases of the Champions League games was said to have raised an additional total of £900k.
Letting him go for free would today equal losing the equivalent of 14% of our turnover based on a sale of £50m. To put that in perspective, Heck's price increases of the Champions League games was said to have raised an additional total of £900k.
We wouldn't let him go for free today, we'd be letting him go for free in 2 years time after we've (hopefully) had two more years of high-level play from him. Given that we got him for free, he'd be neutral in the books.
When you sign a player who let his previous contract run down there's every chance he'll do it again. Worst case scenario here is that he's given us two years notice.
I have to say Mark, this zany scheme of yours to pay Kamara £50m to leave is just crazy enough to work!
When you sign a player who let his previous contract run down there's every chance he'll try do it again. Worst case scenario here is that he's given us two years notice.
I'd cash in this summer get as much as possible .I just dont think we are in a strong enough position squad wise, to be selling Kamara now. He’s got two years left, this gives us the opportunity of having him for this year and still being able to sell him next summer if he wont sign on the dotted line. I also think we have a quality player in Bogarde, who with another year of development, could be the real deal in that position.
Bogarde, Barrenechea, Borland, Hemmings - we've got some potential in that role, just need a little longer; so your view is maybe close to the mark.I'd cash in this summer get as much as possible .I just dont think we are in a strong enough position squad wise, to be selling Kamara now. He’s got two years left, this gives us the opportunity of having him for this year and still being able to sell him next summer if he wont sign on the dotted line. I also think we have a quality player in Bogarde, who with another year of development, could be the real deal in that position.
I know Kamara has previous on it but I think CL football and getting into the France team would surely trump running down his contract with us.
Why can't he do both?
Run his contract (which, let's not forget, still has two years on it) down AND play well and push to get into the French team?
I know Kamara has previous on it but I think CL football and getting into the France team would surely trump running down his contract with us.
Why can't he do both?
Run his contract (which, let's not forget, still has two years on it) down AND play well and push to get into the French team?
To state the obvious but we can't offer him CL football. CL football rather than Europa Thursdays more likely to get him into a star studded French team for the WC. I'm assuming he's in their squad either way if fit.
“ we should sell him”Letting him go for free would today equal losing the equivalent of 14% of our turnover based on a sale of £50m. To put that in perspective, Heck's price increases of the Champions League games was said to have raised an additional total of £900k.
We wouldn't let him go for free today, we'd be letting him go for free in 2 years time after we've (hopefully) had two more years of high-level play from him. Given that we got him for free, he'd be neutral in the books.
If we sold him today for £50m, we would probably have to spend at least that for someone 80% as good as Kamara, plus the added costs and risks of acquiring and integrating any new player.
There's no guarantee that Onana and/or Barrenechea can replace him at the same level.
But it’s the headroom we’d also benefit from by selling him. The owners want to spend the money but can’t right now because of the rules. Even £50m from a free transfer would be very much welcomed to give us more flexibility to operate in the transfer market. If he’s not going to sign his new contract we should sell him.
But what if he doesn’t want to be sold right now?
https://x.com/J_Tanswell/status/1946297759121756583?t=yqeMCLdbq5Z-wzV2OXfYDQ&s=19
Monchi will sell him for £5m next week.
Monchi will sell him for £5m next week.
Nonsense, he had a form dip - it happens. He has been excellent against the top teams as well.top teams like Palace
Nonsense, he had a form dip - it happens. He has been excellent against the top teams as well.top teams like Palace
Nonsense, he had a form dip - it happens. He has been excellent against the top teams as well.top teams like Palace
Obviously a great player although when we needed him at his best in some massive games towards the end of the season he didn’t turn up which was disappointing, so I can see Tim’s point. Although it wouldn’t stop me from wanting him to sign a long term contract as we’re a better team more often than not when he’s on the pitch.
How much would it cost to get a like for like replacement?
Nonsense, he had a form dip - it happens. He has been excellent against the top teams as well.top teams like Palace
Obviously a great player although when we needed him at his best in some massive games towards the end of the season he didn’t turn up which was disappointing, so I can see Tim’s point. Although it wouldn’t stop me from wanting him to sign a long term contract as we’re a better team more often than not when he’s on the pitch.
How much would it cost to get a like for like replacement?
Nobody turned up.
Tim only ever has a good point, in the same way a broken clock is right twice a day.Nonsense, he had a form dip - it happens. He has been excellent against the top teams as well.top teams like Palace
Obviously a great player although when we needed him at his best in some massive games towards the end of the season he didn’t turn up which was disappointing, so I can see Tim’s point. Although it wouldn’t stop me from wanting him to sign a long term contract as we’re a better team more often than not when he’s on the pitch.
How much would it cost to get a like for like replacement?
Nobody turned up.
Yeah Palace was in the quote and that was a rank performance by everyone but sure there were a few others as well. PSG away but that’s probably harsh as he was up against an absolute fantastic midfield, think there were a few more. Like I said I think he’s great but I can understand Tim’s point.
It’s also disregarding his brilliant performances he’s had against big teams prior to the end of last season, which really just backs up Paul_e and PaulWinch Agains points and not the quite ridiculous remark Coopers Injury made saying Kamara is over hyped and can’t hack it against the best.
I think there is a difference between not being good enough and having a tough patch when we happened to have big games. I think it’s clear that’s the case with Kamara, it’s pretty clear he’s top class.If he was "top class" he'd be nailed on in the French team or at least squad.
I think there is a difference between not being good enough and having a tough patch when we happened to have big games. I think it’s clear that’s the case with Kamara, it’s pretty clear he’s top class.If he was "top class" he'd be nailed on in the French team or at least squad.
I think there is a difference between not being good enough and having a tough patch when we happened to have big games. I think it’s clear that’s the case with Kamara, it’s pretty clear he’s top class.If he was "top class" he'd be nailed on in the French team or at least squad.
Tchouaméni, Camavinga, Kone are his rivals for the DM position so tough competition. He’s been in squads before and I’m sure he will again.
Some positive noises coming out from the club and Kamara's side that things are moving with getting the contract done according to Jacob Tanswell.Your cardiovascular consultant will be most pleased, RCF.
Some positive noises coming out from the club and Kamara's side that things are moving with getting the contract done according to Jacob Tanswell.Your cardiovascular consultant will be most pleased, RCF.
I know it’s not announced yet, but neither of those journos would print without rock solid sources. Superb news
While thread-title-accuracy nazis are the worst type of nazis, don't we normally wait for the club to announce it?Not in this day and age. Clubs and their OS take so long with vids and pics that the ink dried a few days ago probably and agents have already leaked the news way before the club can announce it.
And from what I can tell, they haven't.
Dave, everyone knows it's signed. They can't announce until the official fax is through, and the delay is because someone is using the line to top up the franking machine.
Don’t get to carried away
Its got £3.5mill release clause embedded
Don’t get to carried away
Its got £3.5mill release clause embedded
He's not stupid, he'll have an eye on developments at Wheels Park.
While thread-title-accuracy nazis are the worst type of nazis, don't we normally wait for the club to announce it?
And from what I can tell, they haven't.
Don’t get to carried away
Its got £3.5mill release clause embedded
He's not stupid, he'll have an eye on developments at Wheels Park.
Make Dave a Belieber.
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That wall needed sanding down before it was painted.
I still don’t believe itBy Aston Villa FC
I still don’t believe it
;DI still don’t believe it
No its true mate, Lee is properly shit at DIY.
This is great news and it has to be a sign that he had been told things to entice the signature.
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This is great news and it has to be a sign that he had been told things to entice the signature.
He knows Isak is on his way to B6. 8)
This is great news and it has to be a sign that he had been told things to entice the signature.
He knows Isak is on his way to B6. 8)
If that happens I will post a video of myself eating my own foreskin.
This is great news and it has to be a sign that he had been told things to entice the signature.
Sell him now or he'll leave on a free in 5 years.
Bed wetters can find something new to stress about
I can't remember us announcing a new player contract with such fanfare before. Even Grealish's 5 year new deal in autumn 2020 didn't have a photo op with the shirt being stretched as far as I recall. I guess in the absence of new players, the club need to spin it as our signing of the summer. He's a very good player but we need game-changers in the final third and we need them soon.
£60-70M i'd guessBed wetters can find something new to stress about
Wonder what his release clause is.
Monchi is Spanish so probably €1B£60-70M i'd guessBed wetters can find something new to stress about
Wonder what his release clause is.
I still don’t believe itBy Aston Villa FC
Aston Villa is delighted to announce that Boubacar Kamara has signed a new contract with the club.
The midfielder has agreed a deal that will keep him at Villa until 2030.
Kamara signed for the club in the summer of 2022, shortly after making his international debut for France.
The 25-year-old midfielder had spent his formative and early senior career with his hometown club of Marseille prior to joining Villa and he has gone on to make nearly 100 appearances in Claret and Blue, helping the club qualify for European football for the third consecutive season last term.
Now?
]It is.
Until it’s on the official AVFC site I’m not believing it
£60-70M i'd guessBed wetters can find something new to stress about
Wonder what his release clause is.
Great news for the club, if he gets his form back and someone triggers his RC , Monchi / Emery get some good money to work with .£60-70M i'd guessBed wetters can find something new to stress about
Wonder what his release clause is.
This must be devastating news for you
Don't go to shit now you've signed a new contract.
Club are getting good at this. Brilliant news. Thought he'd run it down.
Best news but not gonna be cheap as it’s reported he’s on £150k per week atm…. I’d double it!!
For me if its a choice if signing rashford or new contra t for kamara im going kam
That’s a good conundrum: Rashford v Asensio v Kamara extension. You can only choose one.
I wonder what the release clause is? ;)
I wonder what the release clause is? ;)
I wonder what the release clause is? ;)
Money in the bank. Too many on here think we're a charity then complain when we don't sign anybody.
Can we not just be happy? This is brilliant news.
I wonder what the release clause is? ;)
Money in the bank. Too many on here think we're a charity then complain when we don't sign anybody.
There is one from what i can gather. Been told it very large and staggers
£100m the drops £10m a season across the contract (something like that)
I love Damian.
Can we not just be happy? This is brilliant news.
The 115 would have a list of targets to replace Rodri and Kamara wouldn't be near the top in fairness .All we need now os Torres to sign a new contract hey Tim
Good news then nobody will be paying anywhere that , if they do its win win .I wonder what the release clause is? ;)
Money in the bank. Too many on here think we're a charity then complain when we don't sign anybody.
There is one from what i can gather. Been told it very large and staggers
£100m the drops £10m a season across the contract (something like that)