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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2640 on: July 11, 2025, 01:25:02 PM »
Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?

It really is that simple.

Do you think that people are saying that they want Kamara to leave for nothing, rather than simply acknowledging it as something that could happen?

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2641 on: July 11, 2025, 01:29:43 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2642 on: July 11, 2025, 01:30:13 PM »
Again, I’m not saying we shouldn’t look to get a return. I’m saying we shouldn’t be annoyed if he runs his contract down, we should have fully understood that might be something he specifically would do.

I think being annoyed by it would be perfectly reasonable, however well we've done out of the system in the past.

It's the "not accepting" it that I think tips it over into overreaction territory.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2643 on: July 11, 2025, 01:35:55 PM »
Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?

It really is that simple.

Do you think that people are saying that they want Kamara to leave for nothing, rather than simply acknowledging it as something that could happen?

Dave, of course it could happen if those at the club are utterly stupid, which thankfully they're not. What I'm saying that it's within our powers to make sure it doesn't happen but if necessary and Kamara doesn't sign his new contract, I'm sure we will do what's best for the club.
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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2644 on: July 11, 2025, 01:41:21 PM »
It isn't in our power at all. If Kamara thinks that his move from Marseille to us worked well and fancies doing the same thing again there is nothing the club can do to stop that from happening.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2645 on: July 11, 2025, 01:42:36 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2646 on: July 11, 2025, 01:53:40 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.

You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2647 on: July 11, 2025, 01:55:20 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.

You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
No but it might focus his mind on a move.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2648 on: July 11, 2025, 02:13:45 PM »
Would probably also focus the minds of the next Tielemans or Kamara when they're deciding whether they want to give the next few years of their career to a club that views them as cattle.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2649 on: July 11, 2025, 02:30:04 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.

You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
No but it might focus his mind on a move.

And what benefit would it be to us, having one of our most important players training with the kids?

Cutting your nose off to spite your face.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2650 on: July 11, 2025, 02:30:13 PM »
Yeah that's a fair point. So we make the most of him whilst he's here and accept that he cost nothing and we get nothing back - and you never know if we make CL next season he might re-sign.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2651 on: July 11, 2025, 02:38:26 PM »
He may well sign a new contract anyway, who knows?

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2652 on: July 11, 2025, 03:09:37 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.

You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
No but it might focus his mind on a move.

And what benefit would it be to us, having one of our most important players training with the kids?

Cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Also players talk.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2653 on: July 11, 2025, 03:12:46 PM »
Would probably also focus the minds of the next Tielemans or Kamara when they're deciding whether they want to give the next few years of their career to a club that views them as cattle.

Ask Leicester fans, arguably Tielemans did exactly that in his last 18 months or so at the club. Ran his contract down and barely tried a leg in the process while they got relegated. This PSR interpretation of asset/player value makes an incentive out of it. I know Kamara has previous on it but I think CL football and getting into the France team would surely trump running down his contract with us.

Top players have a lot of power, even Liverpool were powerless in letting TAA run down his contract. Clubs can be right bullies too with players they are looking to move on, we had our own bomb squad back in Lambert's time. See how Man City are treating Grealish as another example.

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Re: Boubacar Kamara
« Reply #2654 on: July 11, 2025, 03:19:10 PM »
RCF, what should the club do if he has indicated that he is quite happy to run his contract down?

Sell him now or failing that, Stiffs and/or bench him. Let him watch France in the World Cup like the rest of us, on the telly. We don't have the luxury of allowing £50m slip through our fingers.

You think putting him in the reserves would make him any more eager to sign a new contract?
No but it might focus his mind on a move.

And what benefit would it be to us, having one of our most important players training with the kids?

Cutting your nose off to spite your face.

Of course, plus we wouldn't want to drive the price down. Hypothetically, we'd have words with him now, see what the problem is with the contract and if he insists on not signing it, prepare to replace him. That may mean trying to find a buyer this summer but realistically those clubs who could afford him have generally got their business done early. Let him play until January when I expect somebody with the money will want him.

Obviously there are no guarantees but worst case, we sell him next summer. Looking at the list of top players out of contract right across Europe, there aren't many decent players on it we'd want, if any. We may have to drop the asking price but even with a year left on his contract I'd be amazed if we couldn't get £35m-£40m.

The point still stands though, nobody is bigger than the club and expecting us to just roll over and take it won't happen and neither should it. Maybe there's some truth to the rumours of Dougie returning on loan.

 


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