Boubacar Kamara - out for the season

[itmustbe_it is!]

If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of

FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.

he was right though

Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.

How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.

How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence

Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor


Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be

Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect

[Demitri_C]

If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of

FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.

he was right though

Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.

How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.

How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence

Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor


Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be

Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect

Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)

Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link

[Goldenballs]

What a fucking disaster. What's our record without him in the team, anyone know? Sure I saw that it was pretty dismal but can't find the stat to back that up.

[Villa Lew]

Terrible news absolutely gutted for him.

[itmustbe_it is!]

If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of

FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.

he was right though

Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.

How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.

How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence

Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor


Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be

Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect

Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)

Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link

ACL injuries are dynamic, traumatic injuries. You've offered no data to back up your assertion that overtraining , or inappropriate training , whatever,, is a potential risk factor for ACL injuries in elite athletes. Find me a peer-reviewed medical or sports journal that suggests it is.

[Drummond]

If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of

FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.

he was right though

Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.

How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.

How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence

Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor


Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be

Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect

Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)

Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link

No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.

[Smithy]

If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of

FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.

he was right though

Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.

How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.

How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence

Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor


Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be

You can't prove a negative. No one can prove it has nothing to do with the training regime any more than I can't prove it's not because a witch put a curse on our overly sweaty tops. 

What you CAN do, is make and argument FOR something, with supporting evidence.  There have been more ACL injuries this year, across the game, generally speaking.  I've no idea why. It could just be a statistical anomaly. It could be something else entirely.  The chances of being related to coaching are slim to none - as others have said, if the players were being 'overworked' to the point of failure, there are LOADS of things that would go long before an ACL.

[Gareth]

As two of the ACLs were in games I’m not sure there could be a direct link to training…though I’m sure I read that they are doing studies into ACLs with particular focus on the women’s game as they had loads in the last couple of years. 

Guess they will look at training as part of that but also the way the pitches are absolutely saturated, the protection given or not from the boots, whether the ball is too light to give resistance.

[Lastfootstamper]

We've lost three players of widely differing physiques that play completely different positions. If it was down to the training we'd be losing players of one type, surely?

[olaftab]

Saying 3 ACL’s for 3 different players over several months is impossible or unheard of is nonsense and statistically has no base. It’s an open ended possibility with many inputs and outputs and enormous levels of variability in the object concerned, that being the athlete. It is total conjecture and absolute piffle to focus on anything the club or players are doing wrong.

[Demitri_C]

If thats another ACL then we gotta start asming are they being pushed too much during training. You dont have three ACLs in one season. Its unheard of

FFS give it a rest, it's boring the life out of the rest of us.

he was right though

Well he is and he isn’t. Correctly stating the injury. However, ACL injuries are down to twisting your knee in the wrong direction, what they do in training has zero to do with this. Unless they are training them in how to get an ACL injury.

How do you know they are not being asked to tackle in a certain way? I know someone who did their ACL by just getting their studs caught its not that simple to say its just how the kneels positioned.

How do we know all the demanding training sessions are not having a impact on their bodies? 3 ACLS in a season is crazy. It cant be a coincidence two arsenal players did theirs under emerys team and villareal had another at villareal. I just find it too much of a coincidence

Im sure ill get shot down and im not saying 100% this is the case but unless someone shows me proof you cant 100% say its not a factor


Sorry if it sounds a bit conspiracy theory its not suppose to be

Yeah, consider yourself shot down. Utter nonsense , with all due respect

Yeah you really have persuaded me with that post with all due respect =)

Someone show me the evidence that its impossible there is no link

No, you should prove that what you suggest has happened, actually has. You surely can't with any sense if seriousness ask people to prove hairbrained ideas are bollocks.

Im not telling anyone there opinions is "bollocks" or nonsense like you have just done so i dont need to prove anything. You have to prove to me its "bollocks" or if you cant its not bollocks is it?

Show me the data to prove its bollocks? Ive highlighted earlier three clubs emery has had ACLs injuries in a earlier post. Two arsenal players picked up ACL injuries and three of ours have. That cant be all bad luck.

[Dante Lavelli]

It can.

[olaftab]

Anyway it’s a great opportunity for Tim to step up and establish himself in the first XI.

[taylorsworkrate]

Anyway it’s a great opportunity for Tim to step up and establish himself in the first XI.

I'd like to think thats the way Emery will go, but I suspect we will see McGinn shoehorned back into the middle

[The Edge]

At least if I ever get a problem with my acl I'll know where to come