Quote from: paul_e on August 30, 2022, 01:44:39 PMYep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!
Yep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.
Quote from: rooboy316 on August 30, 2022, 01:49:43 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 30, 2022, 01:44:39 PMYep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!You know it might just work
Quote from: Russ aka Big Nose on August 30, 2022, 02:16:48 PMQuote from: rooboy316 on August 30, 2022, 01:49:43 PMQuote from: paul_e on August 30, 2022, 01:44:39 PMYep, this is the biggest problem right now for me. Them both dropping in means Coutinho has to come really deep and we end up with something like a 532 but with all of our central midfielders in that 5, which is fucking stupid.Easily fixed. Play Ramsay, Luiz and Coutinho as centre backs. Most of the first half at west ham was konsa and chambers passing it to each other. At least this way we will have better passers on the ball!You know it might just work I swear, that endless short passes around the back four, sometimes involving the midfielders, which is basically Man City style 'give it back' build up is genuinely the only single thing I see us do which makes me believe we must do some training.Of course, Man City do it whilst looking for the ball to someone like KDB to then make something happen. We do it just to lose possession or hoof it up pitch, usually into touch.
I agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.
Our attacking players are hopelessly disjointed. When we have decent possession in the final third they are static or they run into the same space or one runs when the passer is looking to play to feet or they stand still when the passer expects movement.If someone does drive with the ball or creates an overload we fail to capitalise often enough because the other players are uncertain what kind of delivery or link-up to expect.
Quote from: paul_e on August 30, 2022, 07:56:02 PMI agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.This.
Quote from: Russ aka Big Nose on August 30, 2022, 07:32:27 PM Our attacking players are hopelessly disjointed. When we have decent possession in the final third they are static or they run into the same space or one runs when the passer is looking to play to feet or they stand still when the passer expects movement.If someone does drive with the ball or creates an overload we fail to capitalise often enough because the other players are uncertain what kind of delivery or link-up to expect.Exactly this. Any sniff of momentum going forward, that happens, we get closed down and the ball goes back to the CBs to tap around again. A couple of times against westham, we got it to Coutinho in space. He looked up, tried to be busy, saw nothing and passed sideways/backwards, and eventually it was back with Konsa/Chambers.
This ...Quote from: paul_e on August 30, 2022, 07:56:02 PMI agree with the idea of go through, go round or go over. That's what is so wrong with us. On paper we look like we're planning to go through, the full backs are pushed up as if we're trying to go round but we move the ball so slowly that we end up with little choice to try to go over.Gerrard talks a lot about identity but has no idea how to give us one and every week we seem to look more like the players are making it up on the day.... and ...Quote from: rooboy316 on August 31, 2022, 12:03:30 PMQuote from: Russ aka Big Nose on August 30, 2022, 07:32:27 PM Our attacking players are hopelessly disjointed. When we have decent possession in the final third they are static or they run into the same space or one runs when the passer is looking to play to feet or they stand still when the passer expects movement.If someone does drive with the ball or creates an overload we fail to capitalise often enough because the other players are uncertain what kind of delivery or link-up to expect.Exactly this. Any sniff of momentum going forward, that happens, we get closed down and the ball goes back to the CBs to tap around again. A couple of times against westham, we got it to Coutinho in space. He looked up, tried to be busy, saw nothing and passed sideways/backwards, and eventually it was back with Konsa/Chambers.Illustrates how plain it is for all to see, even Micah Haha. The fact that SG chooses not to see it really points to his stubbornness, and he'll end up moving the deckchairs round the deck while the boat sinks.
At Arsenal did anyone else notice how upset he was when he was subbed?He appeared irritated. No outburst, but irritated.
Quote from: Footy-Vill on September 01, 2022, 02:21:47 PMAt Arsenal did anyone else notice how upset he was when he was subbed?He appeared irritated. No outburst, but irritated.Put this sort of thing on the post-match thread.