Boubacar Kamara

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

[Dave]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

No, but if Finn Azaz and Kaine Kesler-Hayden go on to become global superstars after we sold them for not much money, we should probaby just accept that sometimes you win at transfers and sometimes you lose at them.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

No, but if Finn Azaz and Kaine Kesler-Hayden go on to become global superstars after we sold them for not much money, we should probaby just accept that sometimes you win at transfers and sometimes you lose at them.

Sure Dave and that's the reason you build in sell-on clauses. Apparently we have a 50% sell-on clause with Louie Barry.

[Clampy]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.

[PaulWinch again]

We can’t really sign players who run down their contracts and then get annoyed if they do the same thing with us.

This is a joke, right? If not I've got some magic beans you may be interested in for the right price.

No - a. We’ve got value out of him as a player (and may continue to do so for 2 years) and b. He’s already demonstrated that this is an approach that he takes to contracts.

We might decide we want to sell to generate a return, which is entirely reasonable and expected. But if he decides to see out his contract that is fair enough too.

[PaulWinch again]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.

The trick is to gain as much as possible from transfers, the only way be can try to compete with the higher stadium revenue clubs above us and not get caught with your trousers down. It's really not that difficult to understand.

It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.

[Drummond]

We should tie all of our players to long term contracts. With get out clauses if they're no good. Only buy the world's best on Bosmans, pay them nothing and....

Anyway, maybe he's got a big contract offer, and with our policy of telling players their price he's looking to see if someone will pay a fortune for him and give him all the money in the world too.

He will either go for big, big money this window or sign a new contract in September/October when he's helped us to the top of the league.

[Dave]

It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.

What should we do to "not accept" it?

If Kamara has decided that he's going to do five years with us and then five years with someone else and to do the whole "footballer under contract" thing on his terms, then the only way to avoid that is to not sign him in the first place.

[ChicagoLion]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.

The trick is to gain as much as possible from transfers, the only way be can try to compete with the higher stadium revenue clubs above us and not get caught with your trousers down. It's really not that difficult to understand.

It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.

You appear to be under the misapprehension that the power is with the club not the player.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.

Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?

It really is that simple.

[PaulWinch again]

Yep again it’s two different things:

- Should we try to get a return on any player? Absolutely
- Should we be pissed off if a player who runs down his contract with his current club to sign for us then runs down his contract with us to sign for another club? I’d say not, or at the very least we should have been pretty eyes wide open in entering into that deal

[Clampy]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

It's a pointless argument. Out of contract players have been around for years. We've gained from it and at some point, we won't. That's the way it is.

The trick is to gain as much as possible from transfers, the only way be can try to compete with the higher stadium revenue clubs above us and not get caught with your trousers down. It's really not that difficult to understand.

It's bad enough having to sell our best players. Allowing them to run down their contracts and leave for nothing just because we acquired them for nothing (ignoring their signing on fees and top wages) and being accepting of it is extremely shortsighted.

I'm not saying we should let them run down their contract because we signed them for nothing. I said we've signed players who have done exactly that. We've taken players for nothing who should have cost us fortunes.

[PaulWinch again]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.

Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?

It really is that simple.

Again, I’m not saying we shouldn’t look to get a return. I’m saying we shouldn’t be annoyed if he runs his contract down, we should have fully understood that might be something he specifically would do.

[Clampy]

He's right though. We've picked up Kamara and Tielemans in recent times on free's and no doubt more. We've gained out of it.

We bought McGinn and Rogers at very cheap prices, should we further compensate Hibs and Boro? Last time I looked we were running a business in a very difficult market.

No but that’s a different point - the point I was making was about getting annoyed at Kamara if he sees his contract out.

Is it? It's all about finance. Let me try one last time as this is getting boring..which would you prefer, selling Kamara for £50m/£60m this or next summer or lose Kamara in 2027 for nothing and have to sell another top player to balance the books and find a replacement for him?

It really is that simple.

Of course you'd try and sell him if there was an indication he wasn't going to sign his contact. If he wanted to see his contract out and have a wider choice of clubs, then that's up to him.