Boubacar Kamara - out for the season

[Chris Smith]

It's also an incorrect stat, it's actually 6 wins in 17.

I hadn’t realised quite how pivotal he is. His teammates clearly trust him to do his job and the midfield does seem to function better as a unit with him there. The only upside to him being out is that by the time he’s back he should be full revitalised for the rest of the season.

[eamonn]

Do players get their pay docked if they get sent-off and suspended or did that go out with shin pads and white dog muck ? Seems unfair that you get Christmas off for being a div while your teammates toil and flail about without you.

[Dave]

Do players get their pay docked if they get sent-off and suspended or did that go out with shin pads and white dog muck ? Seems unfair that you get Christmas off for being a div while your teammates toil and flail about without you.

There always used to be a standard FA fine, but it was the same fine whether you were a Premier League player or a Sunday league player.

I think most contracts have a financial penalty, but nothing that would really touch the sides for someone earning pretty much any wage in the top two / three division.

[Smithy]

Do players get their pay docked if they get sent-off and suspended or did that go out with shin pads and white dog muck ? Seems unfair that you get Christmas off for being a div while your teammates toil and flail about without you.

There always used to be a standard FA fine, but it was the same fine whether you were a Premier League player or a Sunday league player.

I think most contracts have a financial penalty, but nothing that would really touch the sides for someone earning pretty much any wage in the top two / three division.

I remember reading years ago that we had a fine system for bookings and red cards, but only if they were given out for stuff like dissent, or a player losing his head.  Nothing for late tackles and so on.  Must be 20+ years ago mind.

[eamonn]

Edit, wrong thread.

[Drummond]

Won 6 out of 16 without him. Silly billy with that red.

Bugger. I didn’t realise he is such a huge jeopardy for us out of the team. So based on every strength is a weakness in equal measure Unai needs to develop a better option for next absence.

And we're all clamouring for another right back.

[Olof's Beard]

He got injured against Palace last season and we drew the next game at West Ham before winning five on the spin. So while I don't deny he is brilliant and a crucial member of the side, most of the games we lost without him were under Gerrard. And we probably would have lost most of them without him too, unless we think Bouba could have saved Gerrard's job.

[AV84]

The two games Kamara has missed we were also missing Torres, which changes the back line completely. Then we have Ramsey and Diaby, neither of which are in great form at the moment. I don't think it's a case of Kamara being the sole reason we've had a draw and a loss.

[ChicagoLion]

The two games Kamara has missed we were also missing Torres, which changes the back line completely. Then we have Ramsey and Diaby, neither of which are in great form at the moment. I don't think it's a case of Kamara being the sole reason we've had a draw and a loss.

Yes Torres was a huge loss as his inclusion  would have stopped Carlos acting like Father Christmas with the ball.

[john e]

At least he shouldn’t be tired when he gets back

[Flamingo Lane]

Well at least we know he'll be a starter in our FA Cup tie.

[Dante Lavelli]

He’s a good player in his own right but more so he makes the rest better too. Luiz and mcginn both have more freedom and possibly trust in the system when Kamara is sat behind them.

[ChicagoLion]

He’s a good player in his own right but more so he makes the rest better too. Luiz and mcginn both have more freedom and possibly trust in the system when Kamara is sat behind them.

Agree, we have missed him.

[PaulWinch again]

I’m just dreading the prospect of the club releasing a statement wishing him a speedy recovery. It’d be nice if just for once this was just a minor thing that will resolve itself in a couple of days.

[DrGonzo]

Worryingly he was rubbing the back of his knee/top of his calf when he came off.  Hopefully just a muscle strain and he got hooked because he wasn't playing at his best and we wanted to introduce greater attacking threat.  Could at worst be a knee ligament which would be a season ending injury but didn't look that serious to me.  Fingers firmly crossed.