Quote from: olaftab on February 13, 2024, 10:57:09 PMQuote from: DrGonzo on February 13, 2024, 06:57:17 PMTime for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team. Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.You’re the doctor so you tell us?Think you'd need a specialist from the Clinical Musculoskeletal Assessment Team for that one. I specialise in more esoteric sciences. It must be an increasing issue though, half the England Women's team were out with ACLs, we've got 3 inside 7 months, Fofana and Arsenal's Timber fell to the same thing within the first month or so... Rico Henry at Brentford. Just been through the PL injury list and there's 5 further confirmed ACLs, 1 confirmed MCL and 2 unnamed long term knees injuries. So 11 ACLs already this season, not this calendar year.Currently still off work with an undiagnosed shoulder injury so have plenty of time and empathy for those suffering with joint issues.
Quote from: DrGonzo on February 13, 2024, 06:57:17 PMTime for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team. Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.You’re the doctor so you tell us?
Time for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team. Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.
Quote from: DrGonzo on February 14, 2024, 01:14:54 PMQuote from: olaftab on February 13, 2024, 10:57:09 PMQuote from: DrGonzo on February 13, 2024, 06:57:17 PMTime for Timmy Irons for me. We have 2 games that are very winnable against opposition that would let him build into the team. Gutted for Bouba. We are having a bad season for ACLs, not just at Villa and not just in the men’s league. What’s happening? It’s very strange.You’re the doctor so you tell us?Think you'd need a specialist from the Clinical Musculoskeletal Assessment Team for that one. I specialise in more esoteric sciences. It must be an increasing issue though, half the England Women's team were out with ACLs, we've got 3 inside 7 months, Fofana and Arsenal's Timber fell to the same thing within the first month or so... Rico Henry at Brentford. Just been through the PL injury list and there's 5 further confirmed ACLs, 1 confirmed MCL and 2 unnamed long term knees injuries. So 11 ACLs already this season, not this calendar year.Currently still off work with an undiagnosed shoulder injury so have plenty of time and empathy for those suffering with joint issues.ACL injuries are generally down to excessive lateral hyperextension (or the knee bending sideways, in or out). Traditionally the football version of that is the Wesley scenario where a player has a planted foot and takes a heavy impact near their knee.What we're seeing more recently is far more occurances without the impact element so it's created by a shift in the centre of gravity which means the lower leg isn't supporting the bodt weight above and that creates the force instead.No one fully understands why this is happening (and specifically why it's so much more common in the womens game) but, for me, the 3 main things we need to look at are the boots, the pitches and dietary changes. I don't claim to have anytihng like enough knowledge to pick one or specify why I see those as the key areas but they are the 3 things that could be involved which have seen massive changes in the last 20-30 years.
Diet seems the least likely of those to me. Diets are much more closely controlled and designed to aid performance. Boots are getting lighter and the changes in stud shape was part of the issue with the Great Metatarsal Debacle of the early 2000s. Potentially training levels and techniques have changed and might be an influence. It’s certainly not increased contact in on field challenges, I think that’s safe to say.
..the amount of games too maybe?
But then you would see the problem across the board, and not just localised to one club. And all 3 have happened at different locations.
Then how have there only been 4/5 ACL injuries in the last 2 seasons but we've had 3, 2 of which before a heavy fixture schedule has even started. I think the most boring and likely explanation is probably just bad luck.
Quote from: OCD on February 14, 2024, 07:30:27 PMThen how have there only been 4/5 ACL injuries in the last 2 seasons but we've had 3, 2 of which before a heavy fixture schedule has even started. I think the most boring and likely explanation is probably just bad luck.Real Madrid have had 3 this year. Arsenal have 2. There have been about 10 in the WSL.All of this has already been mentioned on this thread.I agree that the fact that a lot of those were early in the season (when watering of pitches is far more common) means training is less likely to be the issue.