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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on September 01, 2025, 10:15:23 AM
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Seems pretty done.
https://bsky.app/profile/fabrizioromano.yopro20.com/post/3lxrb4eo7xu2s
Not sure about this, has a reputation as trouble. Still, only a loan with no obligation to buy according to various accounts and undoubtedly in a position of need.
Please prove the doubters, including me, wrong, and be brilliant.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
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Wonder what the wages are.
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When a team are prepared to pay money not to sign you, then I think that could be strongly indicative as a problem.
Looks like we are desperate.
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He was never a player I really rated even when everyone was raving about him in Germany. Unai Emery knows a lot more about football than I do though, so cool.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
questionable attitude but you hope for The Dortmund player
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Very talented player on his day, though not sure when that last was.
Seems to fall out with clubs, hope we have told him to get an alarm clock.
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He was great at Dortmund.
Not so much since, I remain to be convinced.
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The very definition of a panic signing.
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Champions League, here we come. Sanchy and Lindy will save us.
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Unless we get a few more in today then this is a bloody awful window.
Why would anyone want Sancho?
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We wanted a winger. In other circumstances this would be seen as low risk with a big potential upside.
In these circumstances however it feels like a desperate throw of the dice.
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Brilliant signing, what can possibly go wrong?
Welcome and good luck getting back in the World Cup squad!!
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I thought Rashford would be a disaster, and he wasn't too bad.
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Champions League, here we come. Sanchy and Lindy will save us.
Well yes, you do think when ManU reviewed their awful season and decided one of the solutions was to get shot of Sancho and Linderhof, that could have been something of a warning.
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Extremely sceptical about this one.
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It might work out if he hits the gym and strengthens up like an old tank. Sancho Panzer, if you will.
I'm extremely sorry.
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Ive never seen him play well, not that I’ve watched him that much. My lad thinks he’s good and he knows more about current players than me. Lets face it, with the mess this summers been and at this late stage, it kind of is beggars can’t choosers unfortunately.
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Fuck this, he's fucking shite. I'd rather have kept Bailey.
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Which side does he prefer? Vague recollection that he is much stronger playing one wing versus his form on the other.
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I'd rather have Trez back.
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Still happy to lie back and think of Yanited cast-offs, nice one Villa.
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Not impressed with this. I hope I am wrong, but think he will be a flop.
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Dreadful move, desperation.
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Fucks’ sake.
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Wonder what the wages are.
Anything more than the minimum wage and we have been had over.
Jesse Lingard Mrk 2, (and not the won who played at West Ham for 6 months).
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He doesn't seem to be a rapist, so not the worst Man U winger we could have signed. Every cloud.
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Fuck this, he's fucking shite. I'd rather have kept Bailey.
Well yes, I’d agree
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He doesn't seem to be a rapist, so not the worst Man U winger we could have signed. Every cloud.
Ha ha ha, the lowest of low bars.
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It all just smacks of sheer desperation to me.
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Hmmm.
I mean, I'd rather have him than Danny Drinkwater. But still. What the hell?!
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Reeks of utter desperation. And I thought the days of dumb cast off signings was long behind us.
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Appalling attitude. Just what we need in that squad.
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Maybe we sent a fax to every agent asking if they represented anyone who would play for us, and only two said yes.
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Is there really not another winger in the world who is hungry for a step up, with a good attitude and wouldn't want £100k+ a week.
What the fuck have we been doing for the last 10 weeks? Apart from selling our players for fuck all.
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The start of the bomb squad.
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Even at the height of his reputation I thought he was shit.
Remember, he kept Grealish out of the England team and none of us understood how.
This is a panic signing and an awful decision.
I thought the days of us being dustbin for other teams shite had long gone.
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I can’t believe we’re about to do this.
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We may as well tell them we will take Onana and Anthony whilst we gift wrap the essence of our team with Emi
WTF is going on - weaken ourselves whilst improving a potential competitor.......and especially them cnuts >:(
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Oh no it’s been confirmed… This does stink of desperation. The players already look unsettled so bringing him this player with such a bad attitude isn’t gonna help.
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Excellent. The only way is up. Has experience of European football. Will be surrounded by decent people so he'll have a good platform. Emery has experience of sorting out underperformers.
I'm underwhelmed.
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80% of his wages!
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I thought Rashford would be a disaster, and he wasn't too bad.
The same, though Rashford's contribution was hugely overstated. At least he worked hard and gave it a good go.
Sancho has loads of ability but has been a fraud for most of his career. Poorly disciplined on and off the pitch. Too weak and unfit for the PL. Some club was always going to get desperate enough to get him in on the last day of the window, I thought West Ham maybe. Very sad that's the level of desperation we have fallen to.
I'm not sure how Emery can somehow get a tune out of him and possibly get him back to his Dortmund form. It means an end to the midfield four setup that served us well for starters. If it's a 433/4231 then it's an odd signing as we already have Malen and Guessand. He will probably be more useful in the EL where we can dominate possession.
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Champions League, here we come. Sanchy and Lindy will save us.
Alan McInally…
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80% of his wages!
That's astonishing. That's absolutely fucking astonishing. Wes and Nas should refuse to sanction it.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
Oddly, I am getting Rashford vibes
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80% of his wages!
That's astonishing. That's absolutely fucking astonishing. Wes and Nas should refuse to sanction it.
We obviously do not fucking learn
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We are swimming in risky water, last minute panic buys.
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Ughhhhhhhh
Emery implied yesterday that the mental state in the team wasn't great, or that off field nonsense is preventing us from mentally being where we were last season. So adding someone who has a massive question mark over his attitude doesn't seem like the best option right now.
Hope I'm wrong.
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80% of his wages!
That's astonishing. That's absolutely fucking astonishing. Wes and Nas should refuse to sanction it.
If that is so, I am even more appalled. Isn't he on an absolute fortune?
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He's only on a reported 250k a week, what you all moaning at!
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And people wonder why monchi gets pelters EIGHTY PERCENT of his wages
You absolute moron monchi
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
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If no loan fee then not so bad...
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Yep.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Well fucking quite.
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It's the most unimaginative signing imaginable.
One of those that genuinely makes you wonder why the fuck we're employing Monchi and co' at all.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Well fucking quite.
Absolutely this. Sancho is a bin fire, and an expensive one at that.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
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I don't want Sancho because he's always come across as a twat but despite reportedly being crap his record in the last season and a half at Dortmund and Chelsea is roughly 1 in 3 to get a goal or assist. If he comes in and offers that sort of form then that'll be 15ish g+a for the season which would be a big step up from what Bailey and Ramsey gave us last year.
I'd rather not, and especially if it's for £200k p/w but we need people in and if this is what the options are then so be it. This window was fucked by us not getting Martinez sorted 6-8 weeks ago and everything now is a result of that.
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I hope we're all eating humble pie come May as he plays a blinder in the Europa final.
However
This is madness, unless there is a low fee but clause should be actually be any good.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
Oddly, I am getting Rashford vibes
Rashford has proven he can be great in the PL and appears to be a decent lad. He was also coming into a unified squad with the mission to add value and play himself back into form.
This one just feels all wrong to me. Total panic buy that you won't convince me isn't a last minute trolley dash.
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And, it wouldn't surprise me at all if another 1st teamer leaves today.
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From the Guardian transfer blog:
I can’t lie, it freaks my nut that any top-half Premier League manager, never mind Unai Emery, wants Sancho. He’s got such a lovely touch and imagination, but sadly lacks the physicality to succeed in England, while there are also questions about his mentality. It’s hard to see this one working.
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I wonder why we didn't just activate the agreement we had for Rashford if we can now find these kind of wages.
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Just don't see him as an upgrade on Leon Bailey...
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I wonder why we didn't just activate the agreement we had for Rashford if we can now find these kind of wages.
because we couldn't afford it when he was available and he wanted to go to Barca anyway.
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Sancho…even when he was good, he was shit.
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He's on a lot less than Greasy.
He has brilliant levels of skill and ability, and if there's anyone who could get it out of him it's Emery.
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One plus point, we won't see him meaningfully on the pitch for at least two months whilst Emery gets him ready.
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It might work out if he hits the gym and strengthens up like an old tank. Sancho Panzer, if you will.
I'm extremely sorry.
Well if he turns out to be shit, Darren, scaffolder from Kingstanding might give him an ice pick.
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I wonder why we didn't just activate the agreement we had for Rashford if we can now find these kind of wages.
because we couldn't afford it when he was available and he wanted to go to Barca anyway.
We could have done if we'd sent Emi there, as he's going to end up there anyway. And we had first dibs, or that was what was reported. He seemed very much like an afterthought for Barca.
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If no loan fee then not so bad...
80% plus a loan fee is what I heard
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He's on a lot less than Greasy.
He has brilliant levels of skill and ability, and if there's anyone who could get it out of him it's Emery.
I hope you’re right….
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We rely on reported figures but there isn't much between Grealish and Sancho wages.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
Yep, the club looked on here and went, "some people on HandV have doubts, lets not sign him".
Although I doubt Jack would have 4 assists playing for us. It seems that Everton have told Dewsbury-Hall that when the ball goes to Jack, make a run ahead of him for him to find. We would have been telling him to pass it back to the halfway line for Tielemans to recycle.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
Yep, the club looked on here and went, "some people on HandV have doubts, lets not sign him".
Although I doubt Jack would have 4 assists playing for us. It seems that Everton have told Dewsbury-Hall that when the ball goes to Jack, make a run ahead of him for him to find. We would have been telling him to pass it back to the halfway line for Tielemans to recycle.
Moyes plays counter attack low block football which suits Jack. We don't. We might have to though.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
Yep, the club looked on here and went, "some people on HandV have doubts, lets not sign him".
Although I doubt Jack would have 4 assists playing for us. It seems that Everton have told Dewsbury-Hall that when the ball goes to Jack, make a run ahead of him for him to find. We would have been telling him to pass it back to the halfway line for Tielemans to recycle.
Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Fancy being our sporting director? You would do a better job than monchi with common sense like this.
It blows my mind we wouldnt go for grealish yet go for sancho who is a bad apple.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Fancy being our sporting director? You would do a better job than monchi with common sense like this.
It blows my mind we wouldnt go for grealish yet go for sancho who is a bad apple.
Sancho isn't a bad apple. Pears are bad apples.
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I don't want Sancho because he's always come across as a twat but despite reportedly being crap his record in the last season and a half at Dortmund and Chelsea is roughly 1 in 3 to get a goal or assist. If he comes in and offers that sort of form then that'll be 15ish g+a for the season which would be a big step up from what Bailey and Ramsey gave us last year.
Thanks for making me feel more positive about it. Starmer should have appointed you as his new Directors of Communications.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Fancy being our sporting director? You would do a better job than monchi with common sense like this.
It blows my mind we wouldnt go for grealish yet go for sancho who is a bad apple.
Make your mind up.
I would rather go for luiz than grealish if i was everton.
Jacks best days are over
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Good grief, this is just sheer desperation, utterly unbelievable!
Exactly what you don’t need to improve the moral of the squad, which is low on confidence and belief, a sulky, arrogant brat who thinks he is better than he really is on ridiculous wages!!!!!!!
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And isn't very quick lol
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I'm not sure Sancho has ever looked convincing in the PL or at the international level. Unless Man U are paying the majority of his wages, this move would seem beyond desperate.
Maybe he's hoping for a Rashford-like revival, but it seems incredibly unlikely to me.
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There will be people on here who stick up for the backroom staff at Villa who deal with transfers/contracts, etc, but our approach this past few windows has frankly been abysmal.
Barring Kamara and Rogers, our squad is worse than the Dean Smith/Gerrard squad that Unai inherited (*with age taken into consideration too).
If today finishes with Martinez out and the only incomings being Lindelof and Sancho, heads need to roll.
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There will be people on here who stick up for the backroom staff at Villa who deal with transfers/contracts, etc, but our approach this past few windows has frankly been abysmal.
Barring Kamara and Rogers, our squad is worse than the Dean Smith/Gerrard squad that Unai inherited (*with age taken into consideration too).
If today finishes with Martinez out and the only incomings being Lindelof and Sancho, heads need to roll.
What about if no one out, and Lindelof and Sancho in?
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Awful desperation signing completely lacking any thought or imagination. Laughable really. What a cliff we seem to have fallen off, back to looking down the back of the bins for other teams cast offs.
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Similar dynamic to when other teams sign Raheem Sterling.
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I’m trying to work out how I feel about this…
I don’t feel much.
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Urgh.
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Lindelof and Sancho.... ugh. Does that mean we'll get Goldbridge as well? "I can't speak! I can't speak!" How will their cast offs make us any better and Sanchos wages would surely be at odds with the PSR bullshit
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Big difference between Rashford and Sancho is that Rashford plays well for a dozen games on the bounce then goes awol for a season. Sancho does absolutely fuck all. Dreadful hype of shit.
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This really is Sancho's last shot - he has to make it work, or he'll disappear like Berahino and others before did, same as David Bentley
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
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Similar dynamic to when other teams sign Raheem Sterling.
Ooo we could get him as well and have a matching set of complete wastrels.
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Its always nice to see excitement abound for a new signing! As others have said, its his last chance saloon, and by god we need a winger so welcome to the Villa
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
8) 8)
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Is he bollocks.
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I've never been impressed at all whenever I've seen him but he might fit in ok here, you never know.
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Yeah but will he score more than Watkins?
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I'm not sure he'll score more than Bizot.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
WE HAVE CHERRY PICKED THOSE MANCHESTER BASTARDS !
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Is he bollocks.
Yeah, sorry but that's nonsense. Rashford has done it in the PL in a big way, but the player we look like loaning in hasn't after a few attempts. A good season in Germany isn't the same thing.
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Villa Victorious in Lindy Pursuit.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
Man U and Chelsea hoped they'd get the Dortmund version. Chelsea ultimately paid £5m to NOT keep him.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
I admire your optimism but that is 4 years ago. Like when Stoke beat us to the Michael Owen signature I thought he won't play a dozen games
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UNITED STARS CHOOSE VILLA
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Are we interested in Michael Owen? Now you’re talking.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
Man U and Chelsea hoped they'd get the Dortmund version. Chelsea ultimately paid £5m to NOT keep him.
That sums it up - they couldn't be bothered with of even bothering to get him, loan him to I dunno Leverkusen or Sevilla and hoping for a break even, Just pay a retropective additonal £5m in loan fees
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
I admire your optimism but that is 4 years ago. Like when Stoke beat us to the Michael Owen signature I thought he won't play a dozen games
Sancho is 25. A bit of difference than getting the broken down end of career Michael Owen Stoke got.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
Man U and Chelsea hoped they'd get the Dortmund version. Chelsea ultimately paid £5m to NOT keep him.
That sums it up - they couldn't be bothered with of even bothering to get him, loan him to I dunno Leverkusen or Sevilla and hoping for a break even, Just pay a retropective additonal £5m in loan fees
Sure, that’s a valid concern. But Chelsea have also got rid of many players they spend lots of money on.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
Imagine the grief they'd have been in for if we signed a crocked pisshead from Manchester United in 1989 and social media existed?
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Yeah but will he score more than Watkins?
He might do. He won't be our striker though.
17 goals in 62 apps 😂
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Is he bollocks.
He is definitely a more talented player. There's no question about it.
He hasn't achieved as much granted, but that isn't what I'm saying.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
Imagine the grief they'd have been in for if we signed a crocked pisshead from Manchester United in 1989 and social media existed?
Yeah they certainly had the last laugh the way the bigged up Joe Cole.
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If the snake hasn’t got his dream move to Yanited and has to remain - even for the next few months - it hopefully puts the kybosh on this one. A very small win in a monumentally shit summer.
Assume we were only going to pay 80 per cent of this prat’s wages on the proviso Emi was out the door.
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If the snake hasn’t got his dream move to Yanited and has to remain - even for the next few months - it hopefully puts the kybosh on this one. A very small win in a monumentally shit summer.
Assume we were only going to pay 80 per cent of this prat’s wages on the proviso Emi was out the door.
I'm sire I read somewhere the two things were not / aren't linked at all.
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UNITED STARS CHOOSE VILLA
:)
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
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Never impressed me when I have seen him play, which was usually for England admittedly.
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
Thats unbelievable what a idiotic deal. Almost 100% of his wages. Feck me
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
Thats unbelievable what a idiotic deal. Almost 100% of his wages. Feck me
You'd presume those bonuses are comparable with the rest of the squad for reaching a level such as the Champions League.
If he qualifies for said bonus then he will have had to have played a part and been well worth the money.
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It depends what the bonuses are. If we only pay them if he plays at least thirty games, scores at least fifteen goals, annoys Smirker by providing at least fifteen assists, helps us qualify for the Champions League and win three trophies, and has Harvey Elliot photograph him giving Emiliano Martinez a massive kick up the arse, it will be well worth the extra 20%.
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Apparently on £200k+ per week. Over £10m to loan him then.
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr4z1egxlv5o
Chelsea did not pay a loan fee for the player and covered just half of his reported £300,000-a-week wages.
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Man United float this shit to the press to make themselves look better in negotiations. We won't be paying anywhere near his full wage.
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One of my most hated sayings on here is ‘ there’s a player in there somewhere’
However I’m unconvinced with Sancho I feel there were better options for the Big wages were paying but there’s a player in there somewhere
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
Thats unbelievable what a idiotic deal. Almost 100% of his wages. Feck me
You'd presume those bonuses are comparable with the rest of the squad for reaching a level such as the Champions League.
If he qualifies for said bonus then he will have had to have played a part and been well worth the money.
If he gets us Cl then you are correct would have been worth it. But i cannot for the life of me seeing us anywhere near the top 4 with signings like linedelof and sancho. Think its better to focus on europa this year
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr4z1egxlv5o
Chelsea did not pay a loan fee for the player and covered just half of his reported £300,000-a-week wages.
They did negate that by paying £5m not to buy him though…
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Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
He hadn't "left" Everton players several seasons earlier. We have seen this week that our players don't seem to like players who seem to be abandoning them.
But I was mainly picking up that Moyes is given him freedom of play AND telling other players to make runs when he has the ball and he is not in a rigid style of play like under Pep. Which managers style do you think Emery is closer too?
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr4z1egxlv5o
Chelsea did not pay a loan fee for the player and covered just half of his reported £300,000-a-week wages.
They had an option to buy which they paid £6mil to not do. So I suspect maths might be about the same in the end.
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In hindsight (not signing Asensio) signing Grealish would have been a sensible option for on and off-pitch reasons.
But he's definitely not an Emery player - Unai doesn't even want players to shoot from outside the box, let alone do the stuff Grealish can do.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
I admire your optimism but that is 4 years ago. Like when Stoke beat us to the Michael Owen signature I thought he won't play a dozen games
Sancho is 25. A bit of difference than getting the broken down end of career Michael Owen Stoke got.
Sancho reminds me more of Dele Ali. Burst onto the scene at a young age and then didn't progress and actually started going backwards.
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Let's be honest the expectations are low so worse he can do is be as bad as we think he will be.
Shame we couldn't Mainoo instead
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This is not a guy you need when the chips are down along with morale.
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This is not a guy you need when the chips are down along with morale.
on the face of it no . but you hope that these guys will know what to do with him
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In hindsight (not signing Asensio) signing Grealish would have been a sensible option for on and off-pitch reasons.
But he's definitely not an Emery player - Unai doesn't even want players to shoot from outside the box, let alone do the stuff Grealish can do.
If the salaries/costs are in the same ballpark, we should have definitely got Grealish back. The shirt sales, publicity and vibes would be a lot better, especially as it looks like Grealish has still got it.
The positive with Sancho is that he has appeared in European finals in the last 2 seasons.
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I'm assuming zero fee for Sancho while Everton have paid a significant loan fee for Grealish.
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Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
He hadn't "left" Everton players several seasons earlier. We have seen this week that our players don't seem to like players who seem to be abandoning them.
But I was mainly picking up that Moyes is given him
freedom of play AND telling other players to make runs when he has the ball and he is not in a rigid style of play like under Pep. Which managers style do you think Emery is closer too?
Grealish was a very popular player when at the club. He went with the best wishes of the likes of McGinn and Mings and banked the club 100m. It isn't comparable in the slightest to Martinez.
Emery has given Rogers a similar license in the first few games. Grealish is the perfect fit for our system under Emery. His ability to keep the ball high up the pitch is helping Everton no end and would have done the same for Watkins and Rogers neither of whom could trap a bag of sand currently. Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
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Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
He hadn't "left" Everton players several seasons earlier. We have seen this week that our players don't seem to like players who seem to be abandoning them.
But I was mainly picking up that Moyes is given him
freedom of play AND telling other players to make runs when he has the ball and he is not in a rigid style of play like under Pep. Which managers style do you think Emery is closer too?
Grealish was a very popular player when at the club. He went with the best wishes of the likes of McGinn and Mings and banked the club 100m. It isn't comparable in the slightest to Martinez.
Emery has given Rogers a similar license in the first few games. Grealish is the perfect fit for our system under Emery. His ability to keep the ball high up the pitch is helping Everton no end and would have done the same for Watkins and Rogers neither of whom could trap a bag of sand currently. Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
Have to agree but I’ve never carried the hatred for Grealish that some others do
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Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
So you keep on saying even though I can't see Grealish being used any differently under Emery then he was at Citeh under Pep. To compare him to Rogers who Emery dotes on and seems to see no wrong in at all no matter how poor he plays (I wonder how much that is pissing off other squad players) also seems off.
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Not sure what thread - but if Emi was going to man city, it wouldn't be as bad (and understandable) as heading off to the mess that is man utd... it's money, not football driving his decision.
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Did we pay a loan fee for Rashford? You can see why Yanited would want all wages covered for their wantaways if clubs are spooked by how high they are plus having to pay a loan fee on top.
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Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
So you keep on saying even though I can't see Grealish being used any differently under Emery then he was at Citeh under Pep. To compare him to Rogers who Emery dotes on and seems to see no wrong in at all no matter how poor he plays (I wonder how much that is pissing off other squad players) also seems off.
There's a big difference as Guardiola wanted his wingers to hug the touchline. Emery doesn't even play with wingers most of the time! Grealish could easily do that role Ramsey did for us on the left or closer to Watkins where Buendia came on last night.
Agreed on the Emery/Rogers dynamic. Every manager has a favourite or two but Emery isnt doing Rogers any favours of late. Subbing Buendia off again before Rogers at Brentford was piss poor.
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I'm in the Grealish > Sancho camp too.
By a million fucking miles.
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I'd have loved Grealish back. Bronte's right, the players and the atmosphere would never have been that flat with him in the side. There would have been a fraction of some never forgiving but he'd have won them over once he was flying past players and assists would have been happening.
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I'm in the Grealish > Sancho camp too.
By a million fucking miles.
I am in that camp. I am also in the neither are a good fit for us.
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That sound you hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Not only is he a poor excuse for a footballer, his attitude completely stinks, too much money too young and he doesn't give a shit. My only doubt with Sancho is which current Villa player will be involved in a punch up with him at Bodymoor Heath.
Konsa, McGinn, Mings - evens.
Buendia - 2/1
Onana - 4/1
Martinez - 6/1
Malen - 8/1
Pako Ayestarán - 10/1
The whole squad and coaching team kicking the shit out of him (my favourite) - 25/1
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Fuck Grealish coming back.
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Fuck Grealish coming back.
Agree.
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Has sancho got pace?
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When did Sancho last have a decent season?
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Fuck Grealish coming back.
Never happening now anyway. We just got to pray sancho doesnt cause any damage to the dressing room ans that somehow he turns into a player under unais guidance
I dont like or want him but will welcome him and give him as chance as we did with rash
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That sound you hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Not only is he a poor excuse for a footballer, his attitude completely stinks, too much money too young and he doesn't give a shit. My only doubt with Sancho is which current Villa player will be involved in a punch up with him at Bodymoor Heath.
Konsa, McGinn, Mings - evens.
Buendia - 2/1
Onana - 4/1
Martinez - 6/1
Malen - 8/1
Pako Ayestarán - 10/1
The whole squad and coaching team kicking the shit out of him (my favourite) - 25/1
Konsa and Onana? Id give Sancho some credit getting stuck into those two.
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🚨 NEW: Marcus Rashford played a role in convincing Jadon Sancho to move to Aston Villa.
@GraemeBailey
Keep your gob shut next time
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That sound you hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Not only is he a poor excuse for a footballer, his attitude completely stinks, too much money too young and he doesn't give a shit. My only doubt with Sancho is which current Villa player will be involved in a punch up with him at Bodymoor Heath.
Konsa, McGinn, Mings - evens.
Buendia - 2/1
Onana - 4/1
Martinez - 6/1
Malen - 8/1
Pako Ayestarán - 10/1
The whole squad and coaching team kicking the shit out of him (my favourite) - 25/1
Konsa and Onana? Id give Sancho some credit getting stuck into those two.
Nah. It would be a sneaky punch from behind like the Nose did on Grealish at the Sty.
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🚨 NEW: Marcus Rashford played a role in convincing Jadon Sancho to move to Aston Villa.
@GraemeBailey
Keep your gob shut next time
It has been a shit 24 hours for football but there a few good comments on here that have made me chuckle
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When did Sancho last have a decent season?
When did he last have a decent game?
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He scored a goal in a European final last season, hopefully he can repeat that trick for us.
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He scored a goal in a European final last season, hopefully he can repeat that trick for us.
Maatsen, Malen and Sancho all involved in the 2024 CL final, as well.
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I'm in the Grealish > Sancho camp too.
By a million fucking miles.
I am in that camp. I am also in the neither are a good fit for us.
spot on
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Surprised he had so many appearances for Chelsea last season.
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He is part of a squad that got into the Champions League and helped to win the World Cup for clubs. He has that on a CV. I hope it lifts up to that tag rather than proving to be a wanker. On the odd occasion I saw him play last year he looked quite quick. And a bit tricky. I hope he brings that to us.
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When did Sancho last have a decent season?
Wasn’t he good with Dortmund last season
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Have to say, I’ve got Rashford vibes with this one
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Have to say, I’ve got Rashford vibes with this one
That’s good then, isn’t it?
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Sancho is obviously very talented, but he has failed to show it on a regular basis for a number of years now. Glimpses, yes, but nothing more.
However, two things in my mind that I'm clinging to:
1. The last forward we loaned from Man Utd with a 'problematic' reputation did pretty well for us with a bit of Unai guidance.
2. It's a World Cup year, and he'll be 26 when it rolls around, smack bang in the prime years for a wide forward, so if he's not motivated to really turn it on this season, he never will be.
I'm a bit surprised we've gone in for him (like many), but as always, I trust Unai and his team if they think he can add something to the side that we weren't getting from Bailey.
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Did Sancho and Maatsen ever coincide and link-up sexily on the left?
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Did Sancho and Maatsen ever coincide and link-up sexily on the left?
They both played in the side that got to the champions league semi in 2024, but on opposite sides. Sancho played off the right for Dortmund.
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Have to say, I’ve got Rashford vibes with this one
That’s good then, isn’t it?
I hope so, mate
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Be delighted if he is as good as Rashford.
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The last time Sancho played with Maatsen was the European Cup final, with a certain Malen occupying the bench.
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Desperation signing if ever there was one.
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"Villa Park to be renamed 'Aston Priory' in recognition of the work done to rehabilitate fallen footballers (notably, those from the North-West)".
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Sancho was excellent in the season before last on loan at Dortmund. Also played 40 odd games last season at Chelsea. Warming to him with Emery’s coaching
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🚨 NEW: Marcus Rashford played a role in convincing Jadon Sancho to move to Aston Villa.
@GraemeBailey
Keep your gob shut next time
That made me laugh. Only thing you can do with this.
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Sancho was excellent in the season before last on loan at Dortmund. Also played 40 odd games last season at Chelsea. Warming to him with Emery’s coaching
5 goals and 10 assists in 41 at Chelsea is good on paper as well. Again he wouldn't have been on my list but he's only been truly terrible for Man Utd, and they've funeraled enough players in the last decade for that to not worry me too much.
Same goes for Lindelof.
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Assists don't count.