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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on September 01, 2025, 10:15:23 AM
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Seems pretty done.
https://bsky.app/profile/fabrizioromano.yopro20.com/post/3lxrb4eo7xu2s
Not sure about this, has a reputation as trouble. Still, only a loan with no obligation to buy according to various accounts and undoubtedly in a position of need.
Please prove the doubters, including me, wrong, and be brilliant.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
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Wonder what the wages are.
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When a team are prepared to pay money not to sign you, then I think that could be strongly indicative as a problem.
Looks like we are desperate.
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He was never a player I really rated even when everyone was raving about him in Germany. Unai Emery knows a lot more about football than I do though, so cool.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
questionable attitude but you hope for The Dortmund player
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Very talented player on his day, though not sure when that last was.
Seems to fall out with clubs, hope we have told him to get an alarm clock.
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He was great at Dortmund.
Not so much since, I remain to be convinced.
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The very definition of a panic signing.
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Champions League, here we come. Sanchy and Lindy will save us.
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Unless we get a few more in today then this is a bloody awful window.
Why would anyone want Sancho?
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We wanted a winger. In other circumstances this would be seen as low risk with a big potential upside.
In these circumstances however it feels like a desperate throw of the dice.
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Brilliant signing, what can possibly go wrong?
Welcome and good luck getting back in the World Cup squad!!
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I thought Rashford would be a disaster, and he wasn't too bad.
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Champions League, here we come. Sanchy and Lindy will save us.
Well yes, you do think when ManU reviewed their awful season and decided one of the solutions was to get shot of Sancho and Linderhof, that could have been something of a warning.
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Extremely sceptical about this one.
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It might work out if he hits the gym and strengthens up like an old tank. Sancho Panzer, if you will.
I'm extremely sorry.
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Ive never seen him play well, not that I’ve watched him that much. My lad thinks he’s good and he knows more about current players than me. Lets face it, with the mess this summers been and at this late stage, it kind of is beggars can’t choosers unfortunately.
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Fuck this, he's fucking shite. I'd rather have kept Bailey.
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Which side does he prefer? Vague recollection that he is much stronger playing one wing versus his form on the other.
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I'd rather have Trez back.
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Still happy to lie back and think of Yanited cast-offs, nice one Villa.
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Not impressed with this. I hope I am wrong, but think he will be a flop.
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Dreadful move, desperation.
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Fucks’ sake.
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Wonder what the wages are.
Anything more than the minimum wage and we have been had over.
Jesse Lingard Mrk 2, (and not the won who played at West Ham for 6 months).
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He doesn't seem to be a rapist, so not the worst Man U winger we could have signed. Every cloud.
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Fuck this, he's fucking shite. I'd rather have kept Bailey.
Well yes, I’d agree
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He doesn't seem to be a rapist, so not the worst Man U winger we could have signed. Every cloud.
Ha ha ha, the lowest of low bars.
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It all just smacks of sheer desperation to me.
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Hmmm.
I mean, I'd rather have him than Danny Drinkwater. But still. What the hell?!
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Reeks of utter desperation. And I thought the days of dumb cast off signings was long behind us.
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Appalling attitude. Just what we need in that squad.
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Maybe we sent a fax to every agent asking if they represented anyone who would play for us, and only two said yes.
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Is there really not another winger in the world who is hungry for a step up, with a good attitude and wouldn't want £100k+ a week.
What the fuck have we been doing for the last 10 weeks? Apart from selling our players for fuck all.
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The start of the bomb squad.
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Even at the height of his reputation I thought he was shit.
Remember, he kept Grealish out of the England team and none of us understood how.
This is a panic signing and an awful decision.
I thought the days of us being dustbin for other teams shite had long gone.
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I can’t believe we’re about to do this.
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We may as well tell them we will take Onana and Anthony whilst we gift wrap the essence of our team with Emi
WTF is going on - weaken ourselves whilst improving a potential competitor.......and especially them cnuts >:(
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Oh no it’s been confirmed… This does stink of desperation. The players already look unsettled so bringing him this player with such a bad attitude isn’t gonna help.
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Excellent. The only way is up. Has experience of European football. Will be surrounded by decent people so he'll have a good platform. Emery has experience of sorting out underperformers.
I'm underwhelmed.
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80% of his wages!
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I thought Rashford would be a disaster, and he wasn't too bad.
The same, though Rashford's contribution was hugely overstated. At least he worked hard and gave it a good go.
Sancho has loads of ability but has been a fraud for most of his career. Poorly disciplined on and off the pitch. Too weak and unfit for the PL. Some club was always going to get desperate enough to get him in on the last day of the window, I thought West Ham maybe. Very sad that's the level of desperation we have fallen to.
I'm not sure how Emery can somehow get a tune out of him and possibly get him back to his Dortmund form. It means an end to the midfield four setup that served us well for starters. If it's a 433/4231 then it's an odd signing as we already have Malen and Guessand. He will probably be more useful in the EL where we can dominate possession.
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Champions League, here we come. Sanchy and Lindy will save us.
Alan McInally…
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80% of his wages!
That's astonishing. That's absolutely fucking astonishing. Wes and Nas should refuse to sanction it.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
Oddly, I am getting Rashford vibes
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80% of his wages!
That's astonishing. That's absolutely fucking astonishing. Wes and Nas should refuse to sanction it.
We obviously do not fucking learn
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We are swimming in risky water, last minute panic buys.
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Ughhhhhhhh
Emery implied yesterday that the mental state in the team wasn't great, or that off field nonsense is preventing us from mentally being where we were last season. So adding someone who has a massive question mark over his attitude doesn't seem like the best option right now.
Hope I'm wrong.
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80% of his wages!
That's astonishing. That's absolutely fucking astonishing. Wes and Nas should refuse to sanction it.
If that is so, I am even more appalled. Isn't he on an absolute fortune?
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He's only on a reported 250k a week, what you all moaning at!
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And people wonder why monchi gets pelters EIGHTY PERCENT of his wages
You absolute moron monchi
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
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If no loan fee then not so bad...
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Yep.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Well fucking quite.
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It's the most unimaginative signing imaginable.
One of those that genuinely makes you wonder why the fuck we're employing Monchi and co' at all.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Well fucking quite.
Absolutely this. Sancho is a bin fire, and an expensive one at that.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
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I don't want Sancho because he's always come across as a twat but despite reportedly being crap his record in the last season and a half at Dortmund and Chelsea is roughly 1 in 3 to get a goal or assist. If he comes in and offers that sort of form then that'll be 15ish g+a for the season which would be a big step up from what Bailey and Ramsey gave us last year.
I'd rather not, and especially if it's for £200k p/w but we need people in and if this is what the options are then so be it. This window was fucked by us not getting Martinez sorted 6-8 weeks ago and everything now is a result of that.
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I hope we're all eating humble pie come May as he plays a blinder in the Europa final.
However
This is madness, unless there is a low fee but clause should be actually be any good.
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Not getting Rashford vibes with this one. I hope I’m wrong obviously, but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen this lad do anything of any note.
Oddly, I am getting Rashford vibes
Rashford has proven he can be great in the PL and appears to be a decent lad. He was also coming into a unified squad with the mission to add value and play himself back into form.
This one just feels all wrong to me. Total panic buy that you won't convince me isn't a last minute trolley dash.
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And, it wouldn't surprise me at all if another 1st teamer leaves today.
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From the Guardian transfer blog:
I can’t lie, it freaks my nut that any top-half Premier League manager, never mind Unai Emery, wants Sancho. He’s got such a lovely touch and imagination, but sadly lacks the physicality to succeed in England, while there are also questions about his mentality. It’s hard to see this one working.
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I wonder why we didn't just activate the agreement we had for Rashford if we can now find these kind of wages.
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Just don't see him as an upgrade on Leon Bailey...
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I wonder why we didn't just activate the agreement we had for Rashford if we can now find these kind of wages.
because we couldn't afford it when he was available and he wanted to go to Barca anyway.
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Sancho…even when he was good, he was shit.
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He's on a lot less than Greasy.
He has brilliant levels of skill and ability, and if there's anyone who could get it out of him it's Emery.
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One plus point, we won't see him meaningfully on the pitch for at least two months whilst Emery gets him ready.
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It might work out if he hits the gym and strengthens up like an old tank. Sancho Panzer, if you will.
I'm extremely sorry.
Well if he turns out to be shit, Darren, scaffolder from Kingstanding might give him an ice pick.
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I wonder why we didn't just activate the agreement we had for Rashford if we can now find these kind of wages.
because we couldn't afford it when he was available and he wanted to go to Barca anyway.
We could have done if we'd sent Emi there, as he's going to end up there anyway. And we had first dibs, or that was what was reported. He seemed very much like an afterthought for Barca.
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If no loan fee then not so bad...
80% plus a loan fee is what I heard
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He's on a lot less than Greasy.
He has brilliant levels of skill and ability, and if there's anyone who could get it out of him it's Emery.
I hope you’re right….
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We rely on reported figures but there isn't much between Grealish and Sancho wages.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
Yep, the club looked on here and went, "some people on HandV have doubts, lets not sign him".
Although I doubt Jack would have 4 assists playing for us. It seems that Everton have told Dewsbury-Hall that when the ball goes to Jack, make a run ahead of him for him to find. We would have been telling him to pass it back to the halfway line for Tielemans to recycle.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
Yep, the club looked on here and went, "some people on HandV have doubts, lets not sign him".
Although I doubt Jack would have 4 assists playing for us. It seems that Everton have told Dewsbury-Hall that when the ball goes to Jack, make a run ahead of him for him to find. We would have been telling him to pass it back to the halfway line for Tielemans to recycle.
Moyes plays counter attack low block football which suits Jack. We don't. We might have to though.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Something about his dad according to the mob on here. Grealish after 10 pints is a better player than this clown.
Yep, the club looked on here and went, "some people on HandV have doubts, lets not sign him".
Although I doubt Jack would have 4 assists playing for us. It seems that Everton have told Dewsbury-Hall that when the ball goes to Jack, make a run ahead of him for him to find. We would have been telling him to pass it back to the halfway line for Tielemans to recycle.
Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Fancy being our sporting director? You would do a better job than monchi with common sense like this.
It blows my mind we wouldnt go for grealish yet go for sancho who is a bad apple.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Fancy being our sporting director? You would do a better job than monchi with common sense like this.
It blows my mind we wouldnt go for grealish yet go for sancho who is a bad apple.
Sancho isn't a bad apple. Pears are bad apples.
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I don't want Sancho because he's always come across as a twat but despite reportedly being crap his record in the last season and a half at Dortmund and Chelsea is roughly 1 in 3 to get a goal or assist. If he comes in and offers that sort of form then that'll be 15ish g+a for the season which would be a big step up from what Bailey and Ramsey gave us last year.
Thanks for making me feel more positive about it. Starmer should have appointed you as his new Directors of Communications.
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If we do this, why couldn’t we bring Jack back?
Fancy being our sporting director? You would do a better job than monchi with common sense like this.
It blows my mind we wouldnt go for grealish yet go for sancho who is a bad apple.
Make your mind up.
I would rather go for luiz than grealish if i was everton.
Jacks best days are over
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Good grief, this is just sheer desperation, utterly unbelievable!
Exactly what you don’t need to improve the moral of the squad, which is low on confidence and belief, a sulky, arrogant brat who thinks he is better than he really is on ridiculous wages!!!!!!!
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And isn't very quick lol
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I'm not sure Sancho has ever looked convincing in the PL or at the international level. Unless Man U are paying the majority of his wages, this move would seem beyond desperate.
Maybe he's hoping for a Rashford-like revival, but it seems incredibly unlikely to me.
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There will be people on here who stick up for the backroom staff at Villa who deal with transfers/contracts, etc, but our approach this past few windows has frankly been abysmal.
Barring Kamara and Rogers, our squad is worse than the Dean Smith/Gerrard squad that Unai inherited (*with age taken into consideration too).
If today finishes with Martinez out and the only incomings being Lindelof and Sancho, heads need to roll.
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There will be people on here who stick up for the backroom staff at Villa who deal with transfers/contracts, etc, but our approach this past few windows has frankly been abysmal.
Barring Kamara and Rogers, our squad is worse than the Dean Smith/Gerrard squad that Unai inherited (*with age taken into consideration too).
If today finishes with Martinez out and the only incomings being Lindelof and Sancho, heads need to roll.
What about if no one out, and Lindelof and Sancho in?
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Awful desperation signing completely lacking any thought or imagination. Laughable really. What a cliff we seem to have fallen off, back to looking down the back of the bins for other teams cast offs.
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Similar dynamic to when other teams sign Raheem Sterling.
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I’m trying to work out how I feel about this…
I don’t feel much.
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Urgh.
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Lindelof and Sancho.... ugh. Does that mean we'll get Goldbridge as well? "I can't speak! I can't speak!" How will their cast offs make us any better and Sanchos wages would surely be at odds with the PSR bullshit
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Big difference between Rashford and Sancho is that Rashford plays well for a dozen games on the bounce then goes awol for a season. Sancho does absolutely fuck all. Dreadful hype of shit.
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This really is Sancho's last shot - he has to make it work, or he'll disappear like Berahino and others before did, same as David Bentley
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
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Similar dynamic to when other teams sign Raheem Sterling.
Ooo we could get him as well and have a matching set of complete wastrels.
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Its always nice to see excitement abound for a new signing! As others have said, its his last chance saloon, and by god we need a winger so welcome to the Villa
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
8) 8)
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Is he bollocks.
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I've never been impressed at all whenever I've seen him but he might fit in ok here, you never know.
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Yeah but will he score more than Watkins?
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I'm not sure he'll score more than Bizot.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
WE HAVE CHERRY PICKED THOSE MANCHESTER BASTARDS !
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Is he bollocks.
Yeah, sorry but that's nonsense. Rashford has done it in the PL in a big way, but the player we look like loaning in hasn't after a few attempts. A good season in Germany isn't the same thing.
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Villa Victorious in Lindy Pursuit.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
Man U and Chelsea hoped they'd get the Dortmund version. Chelsea ultimately paid £5m to NOT keep him.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
I admire your optimism but that is 4 years ago. Like when Stoke beat us to the Michael Owen signature I thought he won't play a dozen games
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UNITED STARS CHOOSE VILLA
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Are we interested in Michael Owen? Now you’re talking.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
Man U and Chelsea hoped they'd get the Dortmund version. Chelsea ultimately paid £5m to NOT keep him.
That sums it up - they couldn't be bothered with of even bothering to get him, loan him to I dunno Leverkusen or Sevilla and hoping for a break even, Just pay a retropective additonal £5m in loan fees
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
I admire your optimism but that is 4 years ago. Like when Stoke beat us to the Michael Owen signature I thought he won't play a dozen games
Sancho is 25. A bit of difference than getting the broken down end of career Michael Owen Stoke got.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
Man U and Chelsea hoped they'd get the Dortmund version. Chelsea ultimately paid £5m to NOT keep him.
That sums it up - they couldn't be bothered with of even bothering to get him, loan him to I dunno Leverkusen or Sevilla and hoping for a break even, Just pay a retropective additonal £5m in loan fees
Sure, that’s a valid concern. But Chelsea have also got rid of many players they spend lots of money on.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
Imagine the grief they'd have been in for if we signed a crocked pisshead from Manchester United in 1989 and social media existed?
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Yeah but will he score more than Watkins?
He might do. He won't be our striker though.
17 goals in 62 apps 😂
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Sancho is a more talented player than Rashford is. I'm more excited by this than I was when Rashford signed. He's a much better player.
If Unai can get the best out of him we will be laughing.
I don't like the talk of covering 80% of his wages though.
Is he bollocks.
He is definitely a more talented player. There's no question about it.
He hasn't achieved as much granted, but that isn't what I'm saying.
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I feel sorry for our social media team, imagine having to try and spin Sancho and Lindelof as positives.
Imagine the grief they'd have been in for if we signed a crocked pisshead from Manchester United in 1989 and social media existed?
Yeah they certainly had the last laugh the way the bigged up Joe Cole.
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If the snake hasn’t got his dream move to Yanited and has to remain - even for the next few months - it hopefully puts the kybosh on this one. A very small win in a monumentally shit summer.
Assume we were only going to pay 80 per cent of this prat’s wages on the proviso Emi was out the door.
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If the snake hasn’t got his dream move to Yanited and has to remain - even for the next few months - it hopefully puts the kybosh on this one. A very small win in a monumentally shit summer.
Assume we were only going to pay 80 per cent of this prat’s wages on the proviso Emi was out the door.
I'm sire I read somewhere the two things were not / aren't linked at all.
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UNITED STARS CHOOSE VILLA
:)
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
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Never impressed me when I have seen him play, which was usually for England admittedly.
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
Thats unbelievable what a idiotic deal. Almost 100% of his wages. Feck me
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
Thats unbelievable what a idiotic deal. Almost 100% of his wages. Feck me
You'd presume those bonuses are comparable with the rest of the squad for reaching a level such as the Champions League.
If he qualifies for said bonus then he will have had to have played a part and been well worth the money.
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It depends what the bonuses are. If we only pay them if he plays at least thirty games, scores at least fifteen goals, annoys Smirker by providing at least fifteen assists, helps us qualify for the Champions League and win three trophies, and has Harvey Elliot photograph him giving Emiliano Martinez a massive kick up the arse, it will be well worth the extra 20%.
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Apparently on £200k+ per week. Over £10m to loan him then.
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr4z1egxlv5o
Chelsea did not pay a loan fee for the player and covered just half of his reported £300,000-a-week wages.
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Man United float this shit to the press to make themselves look better in negotiations. We won't be paying anywhere near his full wage.
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One of my most hated sayings on here is ‘ there’s a player in there somewhere’
However I’m unconvinced with Sancho I feel there were better options for the Big wages were paying but there’s a player in there somewhere
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The Man United BBC at it again.
Both Sancho and Elliott are now at Villa to complete medicals and the formalities of their loan moves.
United sources say Aston Villa will pay 80% of Sancho's wages, while there are easily achievable bonuses which should bring the total up to 100%.
Thats unbelievable what a idiotic deal. Almost 100% of his wages. Feck me
You'd presume those bonuses are comparable with the rest of the squad for reaching a level such as the Champions League.
If he qualifies for said bonus then he will have had to have played a part and been well worth the money.
If he gets us Cl then you are correct would have been worth it. But i cannot for the life of me seeing us anywhere near the top 4 with signings like linedelof and sancho. Think its better to focus on europa this year
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr4z1egxlv5o
Chelsea did not pay a loan fee for the player and covered just half of his reported £300,000-a-week wages.
They did negate that by paying £5m not to buy him though…
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Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
He hadn't "left" Everton players several seasons earlier. We have seen this week that our players don't seem to like players who seem to be abandoning them.
But I was mainly picking up that Moyes is given him freedom of play AND telling other players to make runs when he has the ball and he is not in a rigid style of play like under Pep. Which managers style do you think Emery is closer too?
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Wonder what the wages are.
Massive and we'll be picking them all up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cr4z1egxlv5o
Chelsea did not pay a loan fee for the player and covered just half of his reported £300,000-a-week wages.
They had an option to buy which they paid £6mil to not do. So I suspect maths might be about the same in the end.
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In hindsight (not signing Asensio) signing Grealish would have been a sensible option for on and off-pitch reasons.
But he's definitely not an Emery player - Unai doesn't even want players to shoot from outside the box, let alone do the stuff Grealish can do.
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Sancho isn’t a bad player. He’s got a lot to prove at PL level however. We can only hope we are getting the Dortmund version.
I admire your optimism but that is 4 years ago. Like when Stoke beat us to the Michael Owen signature I thought he won't play a dozen games
Sancho is 25. A bit of difference than getting the broken down end of career Michael Owen Stoke got.
Sancho reminds me more of Dele Ali. Burst onto the scene at a young age and then didn't progress and actually started going backwards.
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Let's be honest the expectations are low so worse he can do is be as bad as we think he will be.
Shame we couldn't Mainoo instead
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This is not a guy you need when the chips are down along with morale.
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This is not a guy you need when the chips are down along with morale.
on the face of it no . but you hope that these guys will know what to do with him
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In hindsight (not signing Asensio) signing Grealish would have been a sensible option for on and off-pitch reasons.
But he's definitely not an Emery player - Unai doesn't even want players to shoot from outside the box, let alone do the stuff Grealish can do.
If the salaries/costs are in the same ballpark, we should have definitely got Grealish back. The shirt sales, publicity and vibes would be a lot better, especially as it looks like Grealish has still got it.
The positive with Sancho is that he has appeared in European finals in the last 2 seasons.
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I'm assuming zero fee for Sancho while Everton have paid a significant loan fee for Grealish.
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Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
He hadn't "left" Everton players several seasons earlier. We have seen this week that our players don't seem to like players who seem to be abandoning them.
But I was mainly picking up that Moyes is given him
freedom of play AND telling other players to make runs when he has the ball and he is not in a rigid style of play like under Pep. Which managers style do you think Emery is closer too?
Grealish was a very popular player when at the club. He went with the best wishes of the likes of McGinn and Mings and banked the club 100m. It isn't comparable in the slightest to Martinez.
Emery has given Rogers a similar license in the first few games. Grealish is the perfect fit for our system under Emery. His ability to keep the ball high up the pitch is helping Everton no end and would have done the same for Watkins and Rogers neither of whom could trap a bag of sand currently. Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
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Grealish would have given the entire club, including the dressing room, a lift when we badly needed it. It's not even about the assists. Everton were so bad v Leeds, like way worse than even us v Brentford. He starts the next day and gives every other player around him a lift from his first touch. He has a presence about him. He's like the player Sancho think he is, if you separate heart, courage etc
It's an act of self sabotage not to have brought him back and instead piss away money on this clown.
He hadn't "left" Everton players several seasons earlier. We have seen this week that our players don't seem to like players who seem to be abandoning them.
But I was mainly picking up that Moyes is given him
freedom of play AND telling other players to make runs when he has the ball and he is not in a rigid style of play like under Pep. Which managers style do you think Emery is closer too?
Grealish was a very popular player when at the club. He went with the best wishes of the likes of McGinn and Mings and banked the club 100m. It isn't comparable in the slightest to Martinez.
Emery has given Rogers a similar license in the first few games. Grealish is the perfect fit for our system under Emery. His ability to keep the ball high up the pitch is helping Everton no end and would have done the same for Watkins and Rogers neither of whom could trap a bag of sand currently. Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
Have to agree but I’ve never carried the hatred for Grealish that some others do
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Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
So you keep on saying even though I can't see Grealish being used any differently under Emery then he was at Citeh under Pep. To compare him to Rogers who Emery dotes on and seems to see no wrong in at all no matter how poor he plays (I wonder how much that is pissing off other squad players) also seems off.
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Not sure what thread - but if Emi was going to man city, it wouldn't be as bad (and understandable) as heading off to the mess that is man utd... it's money, not football driving his decision.
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Did we pay a loan fee for Rashford? You can see why Yanited would want all wages covered for their wantaways if clubs are spooked by how high they are plus having to pay a loan fee on top.
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Monumental fuck up not to have brought him back.
So you keep on saying even though I can't see Grealish being used any differently under Emery then he was at Citeh under Pep. To compare him to Rogers who Emery dotes on and seems to see no wrong in at all no matter how poor he plays (I wonder how much that is pissing off other squad players) also seems off.
There's a big difference as Guardiola wanted his wingers to hug the touchline. Emery doesn't even play with wingers most of the time! Grealish could easily do that role Ramsey did for us on the left or closer to Watkins where Buendia came on last night.
Agreed on the Emery/Rogers dynamic. Every manager has a favourite or two but Emery isnt doing Rogers any favours of late. Subbing Buendia off again before Rogers at Brentford was piss poor.
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I'm in the Grealish > Sancho camp too.
By a million fucking miles.
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I'd have loved Grealish back. Bronte's right, the players and the atmosphere would never have been that flat with him in the side. There would have been a fraction of some never forgiving but he'd have won them over once he was flying past players and assists would have been happening.
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I'm in the Grealish > Sancho camp too.
By a million fucking miles.
I am in that camp. I am also in the neither are a good fit for us.
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That sound you hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Not only is he a poor excuse for a footballer, his attitude completely stinks, too much money too young and he doesn't give a shit. My only doubt with Sancho is which current Villa player will be involved in a punch up with him at Bodymoor Heath.
Konsa, McGinn, Mings - evens.
Buendia - 2/1
Onana - 4/1
Martinez - 6/1
Malen - 8/1
Pako Ayestarán - 10/1
The whole squad and coaching team kicking the shit out of him (my favourite) - 25/1
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Fuck Grealish coming back.
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Fuck Grealish coming back.
Agree.
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Has sancho got pace?
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When did Sancho last have a decent season?
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Fuck Grealish coming back.
Never happening now anyway. We just got to pray sancho doesnt cause any damage to the dressing room ans that somehow he turns into a player under unais guidance
I dont like or want him but will welcome him and give him as chance as we did with rash
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That sound you hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Not only is he a poor excuse for a footballer, his attitude completely stinks, too much money too young and he doesn't give a shit. My only doubt with Sancho is which current Villa player will be involved in a punch up with him at Bodymoor Heath.
Konsa, McGinn, Mings - evens.
Buendia - 2/1
Onana - 4/1
Martinez - 6/1
Malen - 8/1
Pako Ayestarán - 10/1
The whole squad and coaching team kicking the shit out of him (my favourite) - 25/1
Konsa and Onana? Id give Sancho some credit getting stuck into those two.
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🚨 NEW: Marcus Rashford played a role in convincing Jadon Sancho to move to Aston Villa.
@GraemeBailey
Keep your gob shut next time
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That sound you hear is the bottom of the barrel being scraped. Not only is he a poor excuse for a footballer, his attitude completely stinks, too much money too young and he doesn't give a shit. My only doubt with Sancho is which current Villa player will be involved in a punch up with him at Bodymoor Heath.
Konsa, McGinn, Mings - evens.
Buendia - 2/1
Onana - 4/1
Martinez - 6/1
Malen - 8/1
Pako Ayestarán - 10/1
The whole squad and coaching team kicking the shit out of him (my favourite) - 25/1
Konsa and Onana? Id give Sancho some credit getting stuck into those two.
Nah. It would be a sneaky punch from behind like the Nose did on Grealish at the Sty.
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🚨 NEW: Marcus Rashford played a role in convincing Jadon Sancho to move to Aston Villa.
@GraemeBailey
Keep your gob shut next time
It has been a shit 24 hours for football but there a few good comments on here that have made me chuckle
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When did Sancho last have a decent season?
When did he last have a decent game?
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He scored a goal in a European final last season, hopefully he can repeat that trick for us.
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He scored a goal in a European final last season, hopefully he can repeat that trick for us.
Maatsen, Malen and Sancho all involved in the 2024 CL final, as well.
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I'm in the Grealish > Sancho camp too.
By a million fucking miles.
I am in that camp. I am also in the neither are a good fit for us.
spot on
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Surprised he had so many appearances for Chelsea last season.
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He is part of a squad that got into the Champions League and helped to win the World Cup for clubs. He has that on a CV. I hope it lifts up to that tag rather than proving to be a wanker. On the odd occasion I saw him play last year he looked quite quick. And a bit tricky. I hope he brings that to us.
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When did Sancho last have a decent season?
Wasn’t he good with Dortmund last season
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Have to say, I’ve got Rashford vibes with this one
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Have to say, I’ve got Rashford vibes with this one
That’s good then, isn’t it?
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Sancho is obviously very talented, but he has failed to show it on a regular basis for a number of years now. Glimpses, yes, but nothing more.
However, two things in my mind that I'm clinging to:
1. The last forward we loaned from Man Utd with a 'problematic' reputation did pretty well for us with a bit of Unai guidance.
2. It's a World Cup year, and he'll be 26 when it rolls around, smack bang in the prime years for a wide forward, so if he's not motivated to really turn it on this season, he never will be.
I'm a bit surprised we've gone in for him (like many), but as always, I trust Unai and his team if they think he can add something to the side that we weren't getting from Bailey.
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Did Sancho and Maatsen ever coincide and link-up sexily on the left?
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Did Sancho and Maatsen ever coincide and link-up sexily on the left?
They both played in the side that got to the champions league semi in 2024, but on opposite sides. Sancho played off the right for Dortmund.
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Have to say, I’ve got Rashford vibes with this one
That’s good then, isn’t it?
I hope so, mate
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Be delighted if he is as good as Rashford.
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The last time Sancho played with Maatsen was the European Cup final, with a certain Malen occupying the bench.
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Desperation signing if ever there was one.
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"Villa Park to be renamed 'Aston Priory' in recognition of the work done to rehabilitate fallen footballers (notably, those from the North-West)".
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Sancho was excellent in the season before last on loan at Dortmund. Also played 40 odd games last season at Chelsea. Warming to him with Emery’s coaching
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🚨 NEW: Marcus Rashford played a role in convincing Jadon Sancho to move to Aston Villa.
@GraemeBailey
Keep your gob shut next time
That made me laugh. Only thing you can do with this.
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Sancho was excellent in the season before last on loan at Dortmund. Also played 40 odd games last season at Chelsea. Warming to him with Emery’s coaching
5 goals and 10 assists in 41 at Chelsea is good on paper as well. Again he wouldn't have been on my list but he's only been truly terrible for Man Utd, and they've funeraled enough players in the last decade for that to not worry me too much.
Same goes for Lindelof.
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Assists don't count.
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Assists don't count.
Well quite. The way our forwards are right now, what was an assist for Chelsea would be a ball across the box with no one on the end of it for us, or end in a tame backpass to the keeper.
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What the hell is all this “should’ve bought Grealish back” talk about?
Big Keinan scored for Udinese at the weekend, should we bring him back too given our lack of goals?
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It's possible we didn't have the option, anyway.
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What the hell is all this “should’ve bought Grealish back” talk about?
Big Keinan scored for Udinese at the weekend, should we bring him back too given our lack of goals?
Compared to bringing in this lad and paying 80 percent of his £250k per week wages, I'd do that deal, aye.
Some of the senior players may have been a bit miffed when we bought in Rashford and his mental overheads in Jan, when we were playing poormouth the rest of the time. You didn't have to go as far back to a time when Rashford was actually good to justify that one, mind.
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What the hell is all this “should’ve bought Grealish back” talk about?
Big Keinan scored for Udinese at the weekend, should we bring him back too given our lack of goals?
Yes!
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Has he signed or do we still have time to send him back and thank Man U for pissing us about with Emi?
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What the hell is all this “should’ve bought Grealish back” talk about?
Big Keinan scored for Udinese at the weekend, should we bring him back too given our lack of goals?
Yes!
What he hasn't said is that he got injured getting into his car after the match.
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If we had a vote on here right now between taking Jack or Sancho on loan for the rest of the season, I think we all know which way it would go.
Sancho has a lot to prove, as he's failed to impress for Man Utd, Chelsea and arguably, England too.
Why is a move to Villa going to be any different.... It's not like our current playstyle is set up to showcase wing play is it. ☹️
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Did he sign or not ?
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So we paid a fee aswell as 80% wages. Wow
Monchi never learns does he. Panic signing at its best
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Hardly anything confirmed yet, not just us.
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The deal sheet went in at 6.11pm according to the fax machine receipt
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People say they would prefer Grealish over Sancho, and I completely agree but that is easy to just say. Everton have agreed to pay 50 mil next season for someone who will be 31 and on god knows what a week. There aren't many teams in Europe who would have agreed that considering his recent form.
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People say they would prefer Grealish over Sancho, and I completely agree but that is easy to just say. Everton have agreed to pay 50 mil next season for someone who will be 31 and on god knows what a week. There aren't many teams in Europe who would have agreed that considering his recent form.
I think they can choose to pay £50m if they think it's worth it.
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People say they would prefer Grealish over Sancho, and I completely agree but that is easy to just say. Everton have agreed to pay 50 mil next season for someone who will be 31 and on god knows what a week. There aren't many teams in Europe who would have agreed that considering his recent form.
I think they can choose to pay £50m if they think it's worth it.
If it's not obligatory then my bad, I thought it was.
Edit: just going to shoot myself for actually using 'my bad', apologies.
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Surely even Everton wouldn't be stupid enough to spend 50m on a 31 year old Grealish?
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Surely even Everton wouldn't be stupid enough to spend 50m on a 31 year old Grealish?
If we had agreed to this deal it's exactly the sort of thing that would have caused certain posters, who have spent much of today moaning that we didn't sign Grealish, to moan like fuck.
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It’s done
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I am 100% on the Sanchwagon. I really do believe he's going to prove everyone wrong. I know it.
The Sanch 8)
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I'm comfortable with it. Third on the preference list for Man Utd misfit wingers, but at least he's an actual winger which is better than us playing people who aren't wingers there.
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A fair point. As a wingers supporter, I'll definitely give him a chance. More positive about it now than I was when I started this thread, after a few hours thinking about it. (It was either that or spend the time working).
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Well he has something to prove and has worked well with Malen before, so fingers crossed he engages his brain and realises this is a great opportunity for him.
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Adds depth to the squad.
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If it all goes well, he could even be our best ever player to have a surname starting with "Sanch".
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I'll give him a chance, just one though. First mistake and he's in for it.
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I'll give him a chance, just one though. First mistake and he's in for it.
If he says "roundabout" instead of "island", he can fuck right off.
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Hopefully he has a better debut than Guessand.
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If it all goes well, he could even be our best ever player to have a surname starting with "Sanch".
Plus 'Sancho Villa' has a nice ring to it.
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Hopefully he doesn't turn out to be a Don Qui.
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Oh, hang on, I don't approve of this behaviour. Apologies.
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A glimpse of what the Sanchmeister can do:
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Lazy waster who'll throw a strop when he inevitably gets hooked for being a lazy waster.
Welcome.
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I'll give him a chance, just one though. First mistake and he's in for it.
If he says "roundabout" instead of "island", he can fuck right off.
Exactly. Give him a chance at first though - invite him in to your mum's, offer him a buttered bap and make sure he doen't run off down an alleyway.
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I'll give him a chance, just one though. First mistake and he's in for it.
If he says "roundabout" instead of "island", he can fuck right off.
Exactly. Give him a chance at first though - invite him in to your mum's, offer him a buttered bap and make sure he doen't run off down an alleyway.
Lovejoy was right about you.
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Hahahahahahahaha
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Lazy waster who'll throw a strop when he inevitably gets hooked for being a lazy waster.
Welcome.
Everybody and his Uncle knows what he's trying to do is tread the same path Rashford did, that's to get his career back on track then try and bounce on to another club that he wants to play at, on the positive side providing we get a good season out of him, a few goals along the way, that's the best we can look for.
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I guess it could be worse, we could have gone for Delle Alli
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Lazy waster who'll throw a strop when he inevitably gets hooked for being a lazy waster.
Welcome.
Everybody and his Uncle knows what he's trying to do is tread the same path Rashford did, that's to get his career back on track then try and bounce on to another club that he wants to play at, on the positive side providing we get a good season out of him, a few goals along the way, that's the best we can look for.
If the result is that Barcelona sign him next summer that would suggest that he won't have had the disastrous season that is being predicted, no?
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Lazy waster who'll throw a strop when he inevitably gets hooked for being a lazy waster.
Welcome.
Everybody and his Uncle knows what he's trying to do is tread the same path Rashford did, that's to get his career back on track then try and bounce on to another club that he wants to play at, on the positive side providing we get a good season out of him, a few goals along the way, that's the best we can look for.
If the result is that Barcelona sign him next summer that would suggest that he won't have had the disastrous season that is being predicted, no?
I’d take that. I want to see him lifting the World Cup next year alongside Ollie, Rogers and Konsa. Preferably with Emi sat on his arse with that rueful grin he does when he’s just let in a howler.
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If it all goes well, he could even be our best ever player to have a surname starting with "Sanch".
Plus 'Sancho Villa' has a nice ring to it.
Haha, very good!
My son's German team is Dortmund (he was verboten by me from following Bayern) and when Sancho was there, he was his favourite player. Anyone who tries to rewrite his time there as "not that good" is being disingenuous, he was superb. Shame he went to the Old Trafford career graveyard.
One thing that puzzles me a bit though, is: Sancho prefers playing on the right. Elliott prefers playing on the right. Guessand prefers playing on the right. Malen prefers playing on the right. Not sure how this all fits together.
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Lazy waster who'll throw a strop when he inevitably gets hooked for being a lazy waster.
Welcome.
Everybody and his Uncle knows what he's trying to do is tread the same path Rashford did, that's to get his career back on track then try and bounce on to another club that he wants to play at, on the positive side providing we get a good season out of him, a few goals along the way, that's the best we can look for.
If the result is that Barcelona sign him next summer that would suggest that he won't have had the disastrous season that is being predicted, no?
The point I was making was a spring board to other clubs, Sancho will never play for Barca and yes as mentioned if we get a good season out of him we've done well, point is, IF we do he'll be off.
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If it all goes well, he could even be our best ever player to have a surname starting with "Sanch".
Plus 'Sancho Villa' has a nice ring to it.
Haha, very good!
My son's German team is Dortmund (he was verboten by me from following Bayern) and when Sancho was there, he was his favourite player. Anyone who tries to rewrite his time there as "not that good" is being disingenuous, he was superb. Shame he went to the Old Trafford career graveyard.
One thing that puzzles me a bit though, is: Sancho prefers playing on the right. Elliott prefers playing on the right. Guessand prefers playing on the right. Malen prefers playing on the right. Not sure how this all fits together.
Well at least Cash might find one of them
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If it all goes well, he could even be our best ever player to have a surname starting with "Sanch".
Plus 'Sancho Villa' has a nice ring to it.
Haha, very good!
My son's German team is Dortmund (he was verboten by me from following Bayern) and when Sancho was there, he was his favourite player. Anyone who tries to rewrite his time there as "not that good" is being disingenuous, he was superb. Shame he went to the Old Trafford career graveyard.
One thing that puzzles me a bit though, is: Sancho prefers playing on the right. Elliott prefers playing on the right. Guessand prefers playing on the right. Malen prefers playing on the right. Not sure how this all fits together.
Well at least Cash might find one of them
Sadly the patented Cash Cutback (R) and Pass (TM) only seems to find our centre backs, or opposition players.
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Ill back him and lindelof even though i think they are terirble signings
At least he will add some pace to our tortoise slow midfield
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Maybe Sancho thinks Unai will get him back in the England squad like he did with Rashford.
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Lazy waster who'll throw a strop when he inevitably gets hooked for being a lazy waster.
Welcome.
Everybody and his Uncle knows what he's trying to do is tread the same path Rashford did, that's to get his career back on track then try and bounce on to another club that he wants to play at, on the positive side providing we get a good season out of him, a few goals along the way, that's the best we can look for.
If the result is that Barcelona sign him next summer that would suggest that he won't have had the disastrous season that is being predicted, no?
The point I was making was a spring board to other clubs, Sancho will never play for Barca and yes as mentioned if we get a good season out of him we've done well, point is, IF we do he'll be off.
I understand your point, I just don't really see your hypothetical as a criticism.
Let's say as an absolute worst-case scenario (attitude-wise, towards us) that right now his thoughts are "I'm too good for this bunch of shits, I'm going to own them, be their best player and resurrect my career next season somewhere better. But that will only happen if I go out and be their best player".
Then good luck to him, if he manages it, then great.
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If it all goes well, he could even be our best ever player to have a surname starting with "Sanch".
Plus 'Sancho Villa' has a nice ring to it.
Haha, very good!
My son's German team is Dortmund (he was verboten by me from following Bayern) and when Sancho was there, he was his favourite player. Anyone who tries to rewrite his time there as "not that good" is being disingenuous, he was superb. Shame he went to the Old Trafford career graveyard.
One thing that puzzles me a bit though, is: Sancho prefers playing on the right. Elliott prefers playing on the right. Guessand prefers playing on the right. Malen prefers playing on the right. Not sure how this all fits together.
Sancho and OGS made clear at Man United that his favoured position was on the left. Which seemed odd given they had spent about 18 months tracking him to play on the right. Certainly he played on the left with Chelsea. He definitely isn't the classic PL winger that many expect, get to the byline and whip in crosses Not particularly quick but he is technically very good. But no way he fits the midfield four setup and like you I don't see any system that accommodates those four.
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I guess it could be worse, we could have gone for Delle Alli
Still only 29
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Not particularly quick but he is technically very good. But no way he fits the midfield four setup and like you I don't see any system that accommodates those four.
The odd thing is that (a bit like Rashford) he should be ideal in Amorim's 3-4-3 on one side of the striker.
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We’ve played 433 a fair few times under Emery, is this his thinking?
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Done deal. Welcome.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
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Signed. Welcome to the club Jadon.
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Be good please.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
How do we know he didn’t want to sign permanently?
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Welcome, be brilliant please.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
I doubt we want/were able to do a permanent deal.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzyaXG8WQAAV755?format=jpg)
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He looks happy to be here, which is always a good start.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GzycrD3WgAADHxz?format=jpg&name=small)
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He looks happy.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
Actually happy about that. It would bw a complete waste of money
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Unai needs to get a top that fits better
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
I doubt we want/were able to do a permanent deal.
Rumour was a swap deal for emi
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
Actually happy about that. It would bw a complete waste of money
Agreed
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As a casual Dortmund fan as well I loved Sancho and was gutted he went to united. If he can get anywhere near his Dortmund form we have got a great player on our hands.
However I'm not convinced he still has it in him but hope to be proved wrong.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
I doubt we want/were able to do a permanent deal.
Rumour was a swap deal for emi
That couldn’t have worked as we would have been short a keeper.
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As a casual Dortmund fan as well I loved Sancho and was gutted he went to united. If he can get anywhere near his Dortmund form we have got a great player on our hands.
However I'm not convinced he still has it in him but hope to be proved wrong.
I watched a fair bit of him when he was in his first spell at Dortmund, he was very, very good, but from memory seemed to play in an inside forward sort of area rather than a touchline hugging winger. Like Malen.
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Giving me Scott Sinclair vibes.
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Giving me Scott Sinclair vibes.
Swansea-era Sinclair would be fine. Another player who was ruined after being acquired by Man City as a plaything.
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As a casual Dortmund fan as well I loved Sancho and was gutted he went to united. If he can get anywhere near his Dortmund form we have got a great player on our hands.
However I'm not convinced he still has it in him but hope to be proved wrong.
I watched a fair bit of him when he was in his first spell at Dortmund, he was very, very good, but from memory seemed to play in an inside forward sort of area rather than a touchline hugging winger. Like Malen.
Again I’m wondering if this is going to be our approach, especially when teams park the bus, Ollie in the middle with two inside forwards in Sancho and Malen?
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Get plenty of assists please.
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I think we need someone to play wide, at least until Torres is back in the team and in form. We have been best when we play vertical forward passes. Torres>Kamara>Youri>Rogers then create from there. But like last night, when teams crowd that area and pressurise us when receiving the ball, we lose it or have to go backward as there is no one offering a wide pass option. If we've borrowed Sancho to play where Malen does, that is a questionable use of resource.
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His highlights reel from last season is surprisingly good.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
I doubt we want/were able to do a permanent deal.
Rumour was a swap deal for emi
Everything yesterday was that we take him on loan but the loan fee would be covered from the Emi fee. I definitely didn't read anything he was anymore then a loan signing with a purchase next year maybe.
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Welcome to Aston Villa Jadon.
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Should we be worried he didn’t want to sign permanently? Although it does appear that that meant we kept Emi which I’m sure will do wonders for their relationship?
I doubt we want/were able to do a permanent deal.
Rumour was a swap deal for emi
Everything yesterday was that we take him on loan but the loan fee would be covered from the Emi fee. I definitely didn't read anything he was anymore then a loan signing with a purchase next year maybe.
Well that last bit is definitely not true, if we want to keep him it'll just be a case of offering him a contract because this is his Man U contract is up next summer.
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31 appearances for chelsea.
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ManU have the option to extend his contract a year, reportedly.
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Well that last bit is definitely not true, if we want to keep him it'll just be a case of offering him a contract because this is his Man U contract is up next summer.
Yeah, there would have been no sense for anyone (apart from Man Utd) in making this a permanent thing now.
He might as well keep his options as open as possible for next summer and based on the last few years we'd be silly to commit to anything more than a year so we can test where he.
If he's better than most peope expect of him, then I imagine we'll be happy to keep him and he'll decide whether us or Dortmund is where his future lies. If he's not, I guess he heads back to Germany, somewhere not as good as Dortmund.
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31 appearances for chelsea.
41 with FA cup and Europe.
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Well that last bit is definitely not true, if we want to keep him it'll just be a case of offering him a contract because this is his Man U contract is up next summer.
Yeah, there would have been no sense for anyone (apart from Man Utd) in making this a permanent thing now.
He might as well keep his options as open as possible for next summer and based on the last few years we'd be silly to commit to anything more than a year so we can test where he.
If he's better than most peope expect of him, then I imagine we'll be happy to keep him and he'll decide whether us or Dortmund is where his future lies. If he's not, I guess he heads back to Germany, somewhere not as good as Dortmund.
Or ManU take up the extension option.
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I read somewhere that Chelsea were actually happy to sign him on a perm but couldn't agree terms with him after his loan period ended. Not sure how true that is, could they have been more than £5m apart (the penalty fee Chelsea had to pay ManUre for sending him back) ?
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Well that last bit is definitely not true, if we want to keep him it'll just be a case of offering him a contract because this is his Man U contract is up next summer.
Yeah, there would have been no sense for anyone (apart from Man Utd) in making this a permanent thing now.
He might as well keep his options as open as possible for next summer and based on the last few years we'd be silly to commit to anything more than a year so we can test where he.
If he's better than most peope expect of him, then I imagine we'll be happy to keep him and he'll decide whether us or Dortmund is where his future lies. If he's not, I guess he heads back to Germany, somewhere not as good as Dortmund.
Or ManU take up the extension option.
It's hard to see the circumstances under which they'd want to though, surely?
If he scores 30 goals for us, then perhaps they do it in the hope of extracting a small transfer fee rather than letting him just pick and choose. Or if they sack Amorim and bring in whoever the Dortmund manager who got the best out of him. Beyond that though...
Anywhere on the quality spectrum of "really bad" all the way up to "good, much better than expected", they're unlikely to want to sign up for another 12 months of £250,000 per week when they've spent most of the last three years trying to get rid of him.
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They've clearly kept the extension option in the hope of extracting a fee if he does well. If he wins Villa Player of the Year they'll probably negotiate a transfer fee with us and extend his contract at the same time. Even if he does sort of okay, they might think that he's worth retaining as they'll make more in a subsequent loan fee than they will pay out in wages even if nobody pays 100% of his salary.
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If we want him and he wants to come they may take up the option, charge us say 20m which we're prepared to pay and they get gree money. If no one wants him then unless they think they'll make more in loan fees than his wages then they are highly unlikely to extend it. A lot depends on how he does, but we can't dismiss it as a potential option that will happen.
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Just remember folks that as soon as players get out of the toxic atmosphere that is Old Trafford they immediately improve or, at least, recover their form....Rashford, McTominay and even Antony as recent evidence. And wasn't that the case with that Irish centre half we picked up from them in 1989?
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Put it this way, it's us in their situation. The player we sent on loan does well and that club want to sign him. Do you want us to say cheerio and get nothing, or work on an agreement where we extend the contract and they get the player a decent amount cheaper than market value and we get some free money?
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If we want him and he wants to come they may take up the option, charge us say 20m which we're prepared to pay and they get gree money.
And we say "actually we're not paying you anything, we'll move on to other targets thanks", and they've signed up for another year of paying Jadon Sancho.
Of course it's not impossible. But in much the same way as if we'd had the option to extend Countinho's contract by a year, we probably didn't need to spend too much time wondering on here whether we planned to extend it in the hope of getting a transfer fee for him.
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Sancho may attract more attention on the back of a good season and being younger/less broken than Coutinho.
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I read somewhere that Chelsea were actually happy to sign him on a perm but couldn't agree terms with him after his loan period ended. Not sure how true that is, could they have been more than £5m apart (the penalty fee Chelsea had to pay ManUre for sending him back) ?
I think it is true to be fair. I saw very little of Chelsea last season bar our games but reports on his performances were generally positive. I can also see why Chelsea would have prioritised the likes of Neto over him. But Chelsea were setup perfectly for him, a team that like to own the ball. If he truly cared about his career he would have gone there permanently.
Afterwards he couldn't agree terms with Roma, odd really as Gasperini again would have suited him. They moved onto Bailey.
So why he now thinks, desperation aside, that he could fit with Emery is very odd for both parties. We don't really play with wingers as Malen's struggles highlight. But he could be very useful against a low block, the type we have been utterly clueless against in recent weeks. A bit of a poor man's Grealish but he does have an excellent touch, nice weight of pass and is very skilful. He's one of those that's quicker with the ball than without and will need an overlapping full back outside him.
It's a classic deadline day signing, the kind of business you hoped we were past even considering. Sometimes they work I guess but chances of this one are low enough.
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There will be months for the clubs to negotiate it, if they want to. If he does really well we aren't going to say, no thanks we aren't paying 15m, we'll go and sign someone who may not settle for 40m.
It really doesn't matter if anyone thinks it's likely to happen or not, it's still an option that could happen.
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Sancho may attract more attention on the back of a good season and being younger/less broken than Coutinho.
He might, but if he's seeing his contract extended then it's his current terms that are in play, not those that "free agent, Jadon Sancho would be in a position to negotiate for himself.
Jadon Sancho on a free transfer and no £250k per week contract to meet? Plenty of takers I imagine. Jadon Sancho signed for a transfer fee with a £250k weekly wage? I'm optimistic for his time with us, but that strikes me as not something to lose much sleep over.
I mean, I'm all for it. If we're willing to pay Man Utd a transfer fee and offer Sancho loads more in wages than we would if he were joining us (or anyone else) on a free then it suggests he's just come off one of the most spectcular seasons imaginable.
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It really doesn't matter if anyone thinks it's likely to happen or not, it's still an option that could happen.
Sure, if you like. Maybe something will happen that means Man Utd will decide to pay a player they've been trying to force out their club for the last three years another £13m that they don't have to.
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Having watched the highlights reel, I'm more hopeful. Genuinely can't remember seeing him play a game aside from Chelsea highlights. If Emery can get the best from him, he could be amazing I guess. Reasons to be optimistic.
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It really doesn't matter if anyone thinks it's likely to happen or not, it's still an option that could happen.
Sure, if you like. Maybe something will happen that means Man Utd will decide to pay a player they've been trying to force out their club for the last three years another £13m that they don't have to.
Again, the clubs will have time to negotiate that scenario. Should they want to. His loan will have long finished before they have to extend the contract.
He may be shit and it's never an option and ManU can't bin him off fast enough and neither can we, he may be very good and it is then an option for them to explore. We may say "yes, 10m we'll do that to guarantee him", or "no thanks we'll take our chances". They'd be insane not to try, although it's ManU so anything is possible.
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It really doesn't matter if anyone thinks it's likely to happen or not, it's still an option that could happen.
Sure, if you like. Maybe something will happen that means Man Utd will decide to pay a player they've been trying to force out their club for the last three years another £13m that they don't have to.
Again, the clubs will have time to negotiate that scenario. Should they want to. His loan will have long finished before they have to extend the contract.
He may be shit and it's never an option and ManU can't bin him off fast enough and neither can we, he may be very good and it is then an option for them to explore. We may say "yes, 10m we'll do that to guarantee him", or "no thanks we'll take our chances". They'd be insane not to try, although it's ManU so anything is possible.
His loan ends on the same day as his contract, June 30th, because that's how the registration system is setup.
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I meant his playing time.
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If we want him and he wants to come they may take up the option, charge us say 20m which we're prepared to pay and they get gree money.
And we say "actually we're not paying you anything, we'll move on to other targets thanks", and they've signed up for another year of paying Jadon Sancho.
Of course it's not impossible. But in much the same way as if we'd had the option to extend Countinho's contract by a year, we probably didn't need to spend too much time wondering on here whether we planned to extend it in the hope of getting a transfer fee for him.
No, because the loaning club were only paying a fraction of his salary. Had the situation been more like Sancho, where we would likely get more money by retaining a player than letting him go, we would probably have done so.
If it becomes obvious they'll make more money by retaining him, why would they not do so? The only risk would be if they choose to extend his contract then he has a catastrophic loss of form or injury and they're lumbered with him. But I see no reason why they couldn't wait until twenty minutes before his contract expires before exercising their option, just in case.
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We'll realistically know by spring if he's someone we want to keep or not. If he's very good until then, a drop off won't change much. Neither will if he's crap until March and has 2 good months to end. The only variable is injuries, as it's us I predict November for his head falling off.
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We can say nowt, ManU can either gamble and extend hoping someone will pay, or let it lapse and get him off the books. We have. A year to plan what we want to do.
Anyway, his first interview is interesting.
Jadon Sancho says he was inspired to join Aston Villa by Unai Emery’s plans for the club this season.
The 25-year-old completed a season-long loan from Manchester United on Deadline Day and now aims to help Villa fight on four fronts in the campaign ahead.
Positive dialogue with Emery was a key factor in Sancho’s decision to move to B6.
“When I spoke to the manager he gave me belief and confidence,” he said during his first interview with VillaTV.
“He showed me the plan of what they want to achieve this year and it really inspired me.
“He definitely persuaded me, and I can’t wait to work under him.”
Sancho brings plenty of talent and experience to the Villa squad after representing a number of Europe’s top clubs in his career to date.
He scored in the final to help Chelsea lift the UEFA Europa Conference League last season, and he’s keen to challenge for more honours during his time as a Villan
“As a player and especially as a team, we have to be achieving big things,” he said.
“We have to be looking towards that, and hopefully I can help the team to achieve some of those goals.
“The team comes first, so whenever the manager needs me I’ll be ready.”
Sancho added: “I’ve got individual goals, but my main goal is for the team.
“Achieving something as a team is much more special than individually.
“I feel like all players have individual goals, but the team always comes first.
“I’ll be looking to achieve goals with the team firstA familiar face and former teammate was waiting to greet him on arrival at Bodymoor Heath, with Victor Lindelöf having signed earlier on Monday.
Sancho also knows Tyrone Mings, Ezri Konsa, Morgan Rogers, Ian Maatsen and Donyell Malen, having played alongside them internationally and domestically.
The winger believes those bonds will help him settle quickly into a club which received a glowing reference from Marcus Rashford, who enjoyed a positive spell in claret and blue last term.
Sancho said: “I spoke to him while he was here last season and I know he really enjoyed it.
“He said so many lovely things about the club, like how it’s a family and you feel that friendly environment with great players and staff.
“I definitely felt that as I came in.”
I do wonder whether what we read about him is true. He gets a tough time from the press, and maybe they just have something against him, as they did with Sterling.
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If we want him and he wants to come they may take up the option, charge us say 20m which we're prepared to pay and they get gree money.
And we say "actually we're not paying you anything, we'll move on to other targets thanks", and they've signed up for another year of paying Jadon Sancho.
Of course it's not impossible. But in much the same way as if we'd had the option to extend Countinho's contract by a year, we probably didn't need to spend too much time wondering on here whether we planned to extend it in the hope of getting a transfer fee for him.
No, because the loaning club were only paying a fraction of his salary. Had the situation been more like Sancho, where we would likely get more money by retaining a player than letting him go, we would probably have done so.
If it becomes obvious they'll make more money by retaining him, why would they not do so? The only risk would be if they choose to extend his contract then he has a catastrophic loss of form or injury and they're lumbered with him. But I see no reason why they couldn't wait until twenty minutes before his contract expires before exercising their option, just in case.
Because they are then making a commitment to paying him another £13m that they can avoid. And the whole plan is predicated on them receiving a transfer fee that they might not receive.
And from the player's position, every pound that Man Utd are receiving is a pound that he could be receiving instead. So in PWS's example above, where Villa and Man Utd negotiate a transfer fee (meaning we have less money to pay Sancho) ahead of time, why would Sancho agree to this? He has no say on Man Utd extending his contract, but he doesn't have to agree to the terms we then offer him.
I think we can all agree that any future contract Sancho signs will be for less money than he currently gets. So if we (or anyone else) could offer him £150k per week on a free transfer or £100k if we've had to pay a transfer fee, why would the player himself agree to the version where some of his potential money goes back to Man Utd? You just shrug, take your £250-300k per week, probably go out on loan again and roll your dice in summer 2027 having banked another £13m from Man Utd.
And even if that isn't what you want to do, it's quite clearly what you tell Man Utd that you're going to do.
So yes, Man Utd have the right to extend his contract. And sure, if it "becomes obvious they'll make more money by retaining him" then they will.
But the circumstances in which that is the case are so vanishingly small (for all the reasons over the last few posts, but the main one is still obviously that he probably won't actually turn into Mo Salah and have half the league desperate to pay Man Utd a transfer fee) that it's not really something that I personally think is going to be a relevant issue.
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So they will sign him if doing so means they will make more than £13 million in a transfer fee or if the combined amount they can offset in wages plus the value of a loan fee is greater than £13 million.
Fairly straightforward.
I can't see any circumstance where he tears up the league that somebody wouldn't think he was worth paying more than £13 million for, whether it was Villa or someone else.
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I woke up this morning with what was either a mild hangover, a mild cold, or a mix of both. I wasn't in the best of moods - I'd underslept, forgotten to set the alarm and only got up in time to get to work by the grace and precision of my laser-guided body clock, which unerringly pings me awake at the exact point for having both insufficient rest and insufficient time to both shower and have breakfast at home. It goes without saying that it was raining, and as I trudged to work through the early morning tourists and the commuters with their blank haunted faces, I thought of the forgiving example of our lord Jesus Christ, of the Buddha's exhortations to cultivate inner peace, of Confucius' reminding us to avoid hasty judgements.
I then watched the highlights video of Jadon Sancho last season at Chelsea. Goals, skills, assists. Well there weren't a lot of the former, though what there was was good in that way that players against the Villa always seem to have (ping, the ball-missile, the roof of the net) and that Villa players never do (the bobble off the knee, the in-off-the-keeper). There were precious few of the latter too, though once again what was there indicated a guy who knows how to kick a football in the way you only tend to see in a Champions League game you've got on in the background while you pretend to read Beckett.
But of skills there was abundance. Jinking both inside and outside (that's both sides), that thing where his legs go all wavy like like looking at a pencil in water, the other thing where he does a very tiny chip over the sliding defender at full speed, all that shit. And in my new spirit of wisdom and contemplation, I thought, well, I was dead against Rashford when he was arrived and he turned out...pretty good I guess, and you know, who cares if most of that dazzling footwork resulted in him passing square or even losing the ball, and actually let's not think about the fact that footage of him losing the ball made it into his personal highlights of the season.
The point is, let's give him a chance. He looks happy enough in that photo, which as we know is the major indicator of a player's true level of motivation, so why not just sit back and hope it all works out. I'm off to download a mindfulness app.
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So they will sign him if doing so means they will make more than £13 million in a transfer fee or if the combined amount they can offset in wages plus the value of a loan fee is greater than £13 million.
Fairly straightforward.
I can't see any circumstance where he tears up the league that somebody wouldn't think he was worth paying more than £13 million for, whether it was Villa or someone else.
Can you see any circumstances where Sancho says "actually, I'd rather not accept this new salary from a club I'm being pushed towards and I'll just see out another 12 months of contract and choose where I want to go"?
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It's Man United's option, not his. Isn't it?
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I woke up this morning with what was either a mild hangover, a mild cold, or a mix of both. I wasn't in the best of moods - I'd underslept, forgotten to set the alarm and only got up in time to get to work by the grace and precision of my laser-guided body clock, which unerringly pings me awake at the exact point for having both insufficient rest and insufficient time to both shower and have breakfast at home. It goes without saying that it was raining, and as I trudged to work through the early morning tourists and the commuters with their blank haunted faces, I thought of the forgiving example of our lord Jesus Christ, of the Buddha's exhortations to cultivate inner peace, of Confucius' reminding us to avoid hasty judgements.
I then watched the highlights video of Jadon Sancho last season at Chelsea. Goals, skills, assists. Well there weren't a lot of the former, though what there was was good in that way that players against the Villa always seem to have (ping, the ball-missile, the roof of the net) and that Villa players never do (the bobble off the knee, the in-off-the-keeper). There were precious few of the latter too, though once again what was there indicated a guy who knows how to kick a football in the way you only tend to see in a Champions League game you've got on in the background while you pretend to read Beckett.
But of skills there was abundance. Jinking both inside and outside (that's both sides), that thing where his legs go all wavy like like looking at a pencil in water, the other thing where he does a very tiny chip over the sliding defender at full speed, all that shit. And in my new spirit of wisdom and contemplation, I thought, well, I was dead against Rashford when he was arrived and he turned out...pretty good I guess, and you know, who cares if most of that dazzling footwork resulted in him passing square or even losing the ball, and actually let's not think about the fact that footage of him losing the ball made it into his personal highlights of the season.
The point is, let's give him a chance. He looks happy enough in that photo, which as we know is the major indicator of a player's true level of motivation, so why not just sit back and hope it all works out. I'm off to download a mindfulness app.
Om.
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It's Man United's option, not his. Isn't it?
They can extend his contract if they want to and agree to pay him another year of mental wages.
They can't do that and then sell him to another club without his consent to move to that club.
So he banks another year of wages, and moves where he wants for a crazy signing-on fee in summer 2027 instead of doing it in 2026. Particularly given that in this thought experiment, he's coming off a season in which he's lit up the Premier League, so probably isn't the "Chelsea paid to not have to sign him" misfit of recent times.
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For it to happen in my main examples us and ManU, and us and Sancho would all be in agreement before the contract is extended. Maybe Sancho is as happy as a pig in shit, we're in the CL and he really wants to stay. 10m and 150k a week for 4 years is less than we paid for Onana before his wages. There's scenarios where it could happen and more scenarios where it doesn't. It seems pretty simple to accept that both are possibilities.
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It's Man United's option, not his. Isn't it?
They can extend his contract if they want to and agree to pay him another year of mental wages.
They can't do that and then sell him to another club without his consent to move to that club.
So he banks another year of wages, and moves where he wants for a crazy signing-on fee in summer 2027 instead of doing it in 2026. Particularly given that in this thought experiment, he's coming off a season in which he's lit up the Premier League, so probably isn't the "Chelsea paid to not have to sign him" misfit of recent times.
I see what you mean now, ta. I still think they'd probably extend his contract if he's amazing and assume they'll be able to get him to agree to a new deal with a potential suitor which may or may not be Villa.
Hopefully he is amazing, so we find out one way or the other.
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Like Hudson-Odoi who was capped at 18,I think his career wasn't helped by Southgate picking him so often before he was 21.In certain players that can breed a "I know it all attitude" and leave them ill equipped to deal with setbacks.
Is he any better than Malen was my initial reaction .Off to Wiki and in his 3 full seasons at Dortmund ,his goal ratio was better and Malen probably benefited from playing centrally.
And in those 3 seasons,Sancho got more than 1 in 3 whereas Bailey got less than 1 in 4 for Leverkusen.
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Heard this morning that Chelsea needed to exercise their buy option or pay the £5m by the end of June. That’s why they didn’t do it, it was all too hasty and they had other options. If true, that puts a slightly different slant on it than a simple, “he was so unimpressive they’d rather pay 5m than keep him”
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I dunno, could he have got more or less impressive after June?
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Heard this morning that Chelsea needed to exercise their buy option or pay the £5m by the end of June. That’s why they didn’t do it, it was all too hasty and they had other options. If true, that puts a slightly different slant on it than a simple, “he was so unimpressive they’d rather pay 5m than keep him”
My chelsea mate who is a season ticket holder swears by that sancho worked out to be a really decent loan signing. So heres hoping
Didn't want him but will give him full backing now he is here
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I think he’ll be a good signing. His career has been a bit of a disappointment but that’s from a very prodigious start.
His loans to Dortmund and Chelsea have been reasonably successful. His stats are better than Leon Baileys who he replaces in the squad.
His wages are ridiculous but putting money into wages rather than transfer fees makes sense for our current predicament.
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Sancho talking about how Rashford told him the club was a very happy, friendly place, like family, and that he enjoyed his time with us very much
Which on the first beat is nice to hear, but on the second makes me wonder if that is actually a problem. Is Villa just a little too cosy? Are feet touching the floor a bit too much? Is there not enough blood sweat and tears? Are people being worked hard enough?
I don't know. Just that those words made me wonder...
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Well on the basis we’ve finished 7th, 4th, and 6th I’d suggest not.
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Yeah, it's all just platitudes from obscenely wealthy young sportsmen who have done enough media training to know what to say in these types of interviews.
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Nah, Martyn is right, we want a culture where they all hate each other, the boss bans ketchup, plays god and treats them all like shit.
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Yes just to be clear, I can entirely believe it’s a positive culture (last couple of weeks apart). Doesn’t mean it’s “soft”.
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Nah, Martyn is right, we want a culture where they all hate each other, the boss bans ketchup, plays god and treats them all like shit.
He has banned cakes according to McGinn, and banned forcing newbies to sing a song when they sign.
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Banning ketchup is un-English. Death to the infidels.
Oh, no, hang on, I just remembered, ketchup is FUCKING REPULSIVE.
Glory be the ketchup banners.
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Ketchup is the most overrated thing since Steven Gerrard's tackling.
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Banning ketchup is un-English. Death to the infidels.
Oh, no, hang on, I just remembered, ketchup is FUCKING REPULSIVE.
Glory be the ketchup banners.
I knew there were others that hate ketchup as much as me!
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Spot on, Monty.
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Ketchup's fine. But only for children.
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Yep. Children and Americans.
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I make a delicious pineapple and habanero ketchup so you can all fuck off.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
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Donald Trump has ketchup on his well-done steaks. That's all you need to know about the sort of people who eat ketchup.
I'm with Stevieen on this occasion.
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I make a delicious pineapple and habanero ketchup so you can all fuck off.
You're confusing ketchup (traditional sauce of unknown origin) with ketchup (ubiquitous industrial scarlet goop).
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Do people still drink tomato juice?
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Do people still drink tomato juice?
Sometimes at the airport. With tabasco. And vodka.
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Do people still drink tomato juice?
Yes, the Bloody Mary is still the most sophisticated breakfast choice after a certain kind of evening.
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Tomato juice up there with marmite 🤮🤮🤮
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Marmite is fantastic. I have no strong opinions on tomato juice.
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Do people still drink tomato juice?
Sometimes at the airport. With tabasco. And vodka.
It's fine in a Bloody Mary/Caesar (no need for the celery stick, lads) but tomato juice on its own isn't particularly appealing.
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I like Marmite and tomato juice too.
Not tried mixing them, but have been known to have a Marmite and sliced tomato sandwich.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
I had an uncle, he would turn up for Sunday Lunch, my dad would give him the biggest plate of food, meat vegetables covered in gravy, he would mash it up with his fork and then squirt tomato ketchup all over it , it was disgusting.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
I had an uncle, he would turn up for Sunday Lunch, my dad would give him the biggest plate of food, meat vegetables covered in gravy, he would mash it up with his fork and then squirt tomato ketchup all over it , it was disgusting.
One of the lads I shared a house with in college used to squirt ketchup all over his spag bol. He was rightly ridiculed.
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Watching the welcome and first day video, there is no doubt that Sancho looks far more happy about being here than Rashford did on his introduction video.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
I had an uncle, he would turn up for Sunday Lunch, my dad would give him the biggest plate of food, meat vegetables covered in gravy, he would mash it up with his fork and then squirt tomato ketchup all over it , it was disgusting.
When I was young I went through a phase of mashing up all my roast together when we had boiled potatos. I used to put mint sauce direct from the jar on rather then ketchup though.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
I had an uncle, he would turn up for Sunday Lunch, my dad would give him the biggest plate of food, meat vegetables covered in gravy, he would mash it up with his fork and then squirt tomato ketchup all over it , it was disgusting.
Was he from the North by any chance ( I’m northern myself so no disrespect meant)
But Northerners do have very err… unique tastes and eating habits
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When I was young I went through a phase of mashing up all my roast together when we had boiled potatos. I used to put mint sauce direct from the jar on rather then ketchup though.
Mint sauce is another overrated condiment, even with lamb.
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When I was young I went through a phase of mashing up all my roast together when we had boiled potatos. I used to put mint sauce direct from the jar on rather then ketchup though.
Mint sauce is another overrated condiment, even with lamb.
Love it
Especially on mushy peas ( told you I was Northern)
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Mushy peas should have a bit of mint in them anyway, no?
Otherwise I do like a good mint sauce.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
I had an uncle, he would turn up for Sunday Lunch, my dad would give him the biggest plate of food, meat vegetables covered in gravy, he would mash it up with his fork and then squirt tomato ketchup all over it , it was disgusting.
Was he from the North by any chance ( I’m northern myself so no disrespect meant)
But Northerners do have very err… unique tastes and eating habits
Yeah Northfield.
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If you listen to a lot of our ex players (I was watching a sky programme with tiny ears last night), I think there is a difference in mentality compared to some of the bigger clubs. He (by the way it is Benteke) was saying when he arrived at Liverpool it was totally different in the sense it was a 'you have to win' culture.
By the way he loved Villa. And what a specimen he is.
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Mushy peas should have a bit of mint in them anyway, no?
Otherwise I do like a good mint sauce.
Fresh mint works with peas pretty much however you serve them, it's just a pairing that works perfectly (alongside tomato and basil and carrots and paprika).
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I like Marmite and tomato juice too.
Not tried mixing them, but have been known to have a Marmite and sliced tomato sandwich.
The spiced tomato juice (big tom?) - I think aimed at being a mixer with vodka - is pretty nice drunk neat IMO.
Only ever have mint sauce with mushy peas.
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My mother in law has ketchup on everything lasagna, Chinese, spag boll, Chilli, every meal she has ketchup up with it
I had an uncle, he would turn up for Sunday Lunch, my dad would give him the biggest plate of food, meat vegetables covered in gravy, he would mash it up with his fork and then squirt tomato ketchup all over it , it was disgusting.
Was he single? That kind of shit is just ignorant and disgusting.
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Ketchup is the most overrated thing since Steven Gerrard's tackling.
I’m married to a woman who is a senior executive at Heinz. Imagine my life. It’s ketchup on everything and only Heinz. Please appreciate my pain. It’s not just from watching Villa.
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Ketchup is the most overrated thing since Steven Gerrard's tackling.
I’m married to a woman who is a senior executive at Heinz. Imagine my life. It’s ketchup on everything and only Heinz. Please appreciate my pain. It’s not just from watching Villa.
It's all worth it for the tins of baked beans with the little sausages though I bet. God I haven't had one of those in years and years.
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Ketchup is the most overrated thing since Steven Gerrard's tackling.
I’m married to a woman who is a senior executive at Heinz. Imagine my life.
I'll bet it's full of variety. 57x
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Heinz Macaroni Cheese in a tin is nasty. It belongs in the 8th circle of hell.
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I love mint, especially in a nice Mojito.
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I love mint, especially in a nice Mojito.
Now you're talking.
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I’m married to a woman who is a senior executive at Heinz. Imagine my life.
I'll bet it's full of variety. 57x
Who wouldn't want to be married to a woman who's a bit saucy?
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Mushy peas are shit.
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I have come on this thread to see how he was getting on and .............
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My initial reaction to this signing was pretty much in line with PWS's opinion on mushy peas.
But on reflection, he's only 25 and Emery is good at getting the best out of players. I've gone from being pretty pissed off that we are helping Man U with a problem player to thinking maybe we'll get a tune out of him. I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out.
I'm fond of mushy peas, but with lots of black pepper not mint. I prefer to keep (fresh) mint for Moscow Mules.
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Mushy peas are shit.
Along with pork scratchings they are both foods of the Gods.
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Mushy peas are shit.
Having married a Yorkshire girl, I've spent my whole married life avoiding mushy peas like the plague. The work of the devil, they are.
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Mushy peas are shit.
Having married a Yorkshire girl, I've spent my whole married life avoiding mushy peas like the plague. The work of the devil, they are.
Mushy peas are absolutely horrific and a blight on civilized society.
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You lot just don't let yourselves live. Mushy peas from.rhe chippy are spot on. Don't be buying any tinned shite though. (Heinz or otherwise).
Sancho is reaching an age where maturity could be setting in. Under a manager who knows how to get the best out of players, we could be rewarded handsomely.
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I wasn't a fan of mushy peas growing up, mainly because it meant Bachelors Marrowfat peas with dinner. Don't mind them now with fish and chips (plus some vinegar and gravy).
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My initial reaction to this signing was pretty much in line with PWS's opinion on mushy peas.
But on reflection, he's only 25 and Emery is good at getting the best out of players. I've gone from being pretty pissed off that we are helping Man U with a problem player to thinking maybe we'll get a tune out of him. I'm looking forward to seeing how it pans out.
Same here, I've gone from 'Oh FFS' to quite looking forward to seeing what he can do.
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Wouldn’t have been my first choice (and I doubt it was the manager’s either) but I could see this working in our system, playing him off the left. If there is a coach around that can get him back on the right path it’s Emery.
I disregard his Man Ure chapter given their incredible record for ruining players and his Chelsea form is actually pretty decent.
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I've spent a bit of time* this evening trying to establish a connection between Jadon Sancho and tomato ketchup.
(Not that there NEEDS to be a connection - just to kill time while sitting on the train back to Oxford after watching the 40-year old Ravi Bopara demolish Surrey's bowlers this evening).
Here are the results of my research.
I started by Googling "Jadon Sancho tomato ketchup"**. The AI-generated summary of the results opened with this sentence:
"Jadon Sancho does not have a tomato ketchup."
Not a promising start. However, it continued:
"But he collaborated with Nando's and Nike in 2020 to release a limited-edition Sancho Sauce, which is a medium PERi-PERi sauce with BBQ and pineapple flavors, not ketchup."
Elsewhere, I learned that the BBQ-and-pineapple flavour profile was chosen to reflect his "fiery and spicy playing style".
I think we can conclude from this that Sancho is not a tomato ketchup fan. Its bland ubiquity, its sweetness, probably doesn't adequately embody his playing style.
But it's clearly true that Sancho is not opposed to all sauces, and there's probably a decent PhD to be written about precisely where - for Sancho - the boundary lies between an endorsable sauce and an unendorsable ketchup.
*Approx two minutes.
**Possible missing Stereolab album title.
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"But he collaborated with Nando's and Nike in 2020 to release a limited-edition Sancho Sauce, which is a medium PERi-PERi sauce with BBQ and pineapple flavors, not ketchup."
Elsewhere, I learned that the BBQ-and-pineapple flavour profile was chosen to reflect his "fiery and spicy playing style".
I make a delicious pineapple and habanero ketchup so you can all fuck off.
So to sum up, SE is Jadon Sancho.
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I've spent a bit of time* this evening trying to establish a connection between Jadon Sancho and tomato ketchup.
(Not that there NEEDS to be a connection - just to kill time while sitting on the train back to Oxford after watching the 40-year old Ravi Bopara demolish Surrey's bowlers this evening).
Here are the results of my research.
I started by Googling "Jadon Sancho tomato ketchup"**. The AI-generated summary of the results opened with this sentence:
"Jadon Sancho does not have a tomato ketchup."
Not a promising start. However, it continued:
"But he collaborated with Nando's and Nike in 2020 to release a limited-edition Sancho Sauce, which is a medium PERi-PERi sauce with BBQ and pineapple flavors, not ketchup."
Elsewhere, I learned that the BBQ-and-pineapple flavour profile was chosen to reflect his "fiery and spicy playing style".
I think we can conclude from this that Sancho is not a tomato ketchup fan. Its bland ubiquity, its sweetness, probably doesn't adequately embody his playing style.
But it's clearly true that Sancho is not opposed to all sauces, and there's probably a decent PhD to be written about precisely where - for Sancho - the boundary lies between an endorsable sauce and an unendorsable ketchup.
*Approx two minutes.
**Possible missing Stereolab album title.
A+ post. Would read again.
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We’ll get a few good moments from him but nothing consistent, nothing that will make us want to sign him and by the summer, questions will be asked about why we spent so much on his wage to a club who seemed quite happy to help unsettle Martinez and keep everyone (including our transfer strategy) on hold all summer until the last minute. And we do them a favour. Right.
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Is Pineapple ‘fiery and spicy?’
Maybe I’ve been eating the wrong variety?
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Habanero is.
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My hope is that the fear of being a flop and laughing stock will motivate him to aspire to the world beater he was supposedly destined to become.
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My hope is that the fear of being a flop and laughing stock will motivate him to aspire to the world beater he was supposedly destined to become.
Tactical fit will be interesting as I don't think he replaces Ramsey or McGinn in one of the wide midfield roles that has served us well. They are very demanding roles out of possession and he doesn't have that athleticism or workrate. Maybe we need a change away from that anyway. Perhaps more of a 4231 with the likes of Rogers and himself quite high and narrow in behind Watkins. It would expose the full backs, especially down the left with Tielemans not the strongest defending counters either. But something has to change.
Maybe blind optimism but I do think Sancho can be an asset. Simply from watching our clueless attempts to break down defences sitting in of late. There's going to be plenty more of those this season with the EL etc. He's not the quickest but does have good feet and at his best can be clever. If we can get Maatsen going, they might just work with Tielemans and even Torres on that side.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
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There are some quotes doing the rounds about Sancho from Boehly but they have been debunked apparently so don't bother posting any on here.
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There are some quotes doing the rounds about Sancho from Boehly but they have been debunked apparently so don't bother posting any on here.
Yes read them and alarming if true, so alarming they just can’t be true of a professional footballer, so as you say - nothing to see here
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There are some quotes doing the rounds about Sancho from Boehly but they have been debunked apparently so don't bother posting any on here.
I'd be amazed if Boehly knew who he was, was watching the Overlap with Ruud Gullit the other day and he said he'd gone over to introduce himself to him at some FIFA do and he was completely unaware of who he was.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
I’ll put you down as undecided then.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
I’ll put you down as undecided then.
yes get off that bloody fence please !!
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Agree, but it’s a low bar for 200k a week
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
And given he'll be playing in pretty much the position Ramsey would have been - even his two joke seasons at Man Utd were 3 goals in 29 matches and 6 goals in 26 matches, which are comparable / better than Ramsey's best seasons for us (6 in 34 and 6 in 35).
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
I’ll put you down as undecided then.
I'm certainly hesitant to ask him what he thinks of ketchup or mushy peas.
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Yep but that's not the only measure, but a basic point.i happen to think he'll make a big difference and will be entertaining too.
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There are some quotes doing the rounds about Sancho from Boehly but they have been debunked apparently so don't bother posting any on here.
These quotes, no I’m not gonna bother posting them
(https://i.ibb.co/HThxdnFw/IMG-5776.jpg) (https://ibb.co/HThxdnFw)
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Can someone share the debunking, please?
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Agree, but it’s a low bar for 200k a week
Who cares? It’s not our money and quite frankly all professional sports people at the top of their game earn obscene money so quite why people worry about this stuff puzzles me.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Agree, but it’s a low bar for 200k a week
Who cares? It’s not our money and quite frankly all professional sports people at the top of their game earn obscene money so quite why people worry about this stuff puzzles me.
While this is true, given our larger-than-it-should-be wage bill is the cause of a good deal of our current problems, I don't blame anyone for wondering about which bits of that outlay are being spend well or badly.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Agree, but it’s a low bar for 200k a week
Who cares? It’s not our money and quite frankly all professional sports people at the top of their game earn obscene money so quite why people worry about this stuff puzzles me.
What do you mean who cares?
If you’re paying a player top money you want top performances
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Not so much v Bailey 23/24 or Ramsey 22/23. Both performed at an elite level for us under Emery, granted for a short time. Ramsey was nowhere near as bad last season as some here seem to have convinced themselves.
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Mushy peas are shit.
Having married a Yorkshire girl, I've spent my whole married life avoiding mushy peas like the plague. The work of the devil, they are.
I'm with you ME!
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
I’ll put you down as undecided then.
I'm certainly hesitant to ask him what he thinks of ketchup or mushy peas.
why is there no mention of curry sauce ?
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Can someone share the debunking, please?
That was last season, he's gone from the lurved up stage of the relationship to "talk later, babes. I've got an early start at work tomorrow".
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Can someone share the debunking, please?
I mean it comes from La Repubblica, that should be enough.
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Fabrizio Romano also said it was bollocks, and he'd know bollocks.
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I agree with LeonW. I am convinced that this was a deliberate ploy by the mancs to unsettle a leading player from a club they regard as direct competition to mess us up. Bastards. Other conspiracy theories are available.
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Mainly from Tap-in merchant but the article doesn't even have the agreed fee correctly which was €30mil and not €20mil.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/lists/chelsea-co-owner-todd-boehly-jadon-sancho-as-completely-fake/bltb5ee21ae6409006f
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Mushy peas are shit.
Having married a Yorkshire girl, I've spent my whole married life avoiding mushy peas like the plague. The work of the devil, they are.
I'm with you ME!
Having lived in both Sheffield and Leeds I'd managed to avoid their mushy peas until one day I went to Bradford where I was introduced to a meat pie drowning in mushing peas with mint sauce. I was not amused. Only thing worse I can think of is chips with gravy. Savages!
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Having lived in both Sheffield and Leeds I'd managed to avoid their mushy peas until one day I went to Bradford where I was introduced to a meat pie drowning in mushing peas with mint sauce. I was not amused. Only thing worse I can think of is chips with gravy. Savages!
So you're saying a Francesinha is nicer than both of them?
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Not so much v Bailey 23/24 or Ramsey 22/23. Both performed at an elite level for us under Emery, granted for a short time. Ramsey was nowhere near as bad last season as some here seem to have convinced themselves.
One league goal by Ramsey last season seems to be the stick to beat him with. Personally i liked his driving runs and defences being shit-scared of him. He was a bit of a div for getting that red card at Bournemouth mind.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
He'll contribute more than Bailey has recently, I'd say he did more for Chelsea last season than we got out of Bailey or Ramsey.
Not so much v Bailey 23/24 or Ramsey 22/23. Both performed at an elite level for us under Emery, granted for a short time. Ramsey was nowhere near as bad last season as some here seem to have convinced themselves.
One league goal by Ramsey last season seems to be the stick to beat him with. Personally i liked his driving runs and defences being shit-scared of him. He was a bit of a div for getting that red card at Bournemouth mind.
Same amount of league goals as McGinn. The metric mikes need something to hang their hat on I guess. Bailey was a great fit too, either starting or off the bench, until his confidence disappeared. Metrics have their place but don't explain balance of the team/squad.
Let's see how Sancho goes.
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He will do the square root of f*** all for us and will be moved on at the end of the season. We will wonder why we bothered. A Leopard doesn’t change its spots. A gifted footballer he may be but his attitude towards the game will soon surface.
I’ll put you down as undecided then.
I'm certainly hesitant to ask him what he thinks of ketchup or mushy peas.
why is there no mention of curry sauce ?
I love curry sauce with my chips, me. Never used to bother with it, but tried it about 4-5 years ago and have been a convert ever since. Definitely on the range of “lovely chips” condiments along with salt & vinegar and chip spice & Dutch mayo.
Never touch ketchup. Struggling to think of a single thing it improves where there’s not a much better option (brown sauce, mustard, curry sauce, …)
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The reason people talk about him only getting 1 league goal in each of the last 2 seasons isn't anything like that, it's because he got 6 in each of the 2 previous seasons and we all thought he was going to take another step up and move into double figures but the injury got in the way. Since he came back he was improving but still haven't got back to the player he was and the lack of goals is 1 sign of that.
1 of the biggest problems we had in the first half of last season was the over-reliance on Watkins, Rogers and Duran in the final 3rd, if those 3 didn't score Villa didn't score. Asensio and Rashford spread the goals around more but Bailey and Ramsey in particular needed to offer more. I'd have loved us to have no reason to sell Ramsey and to see him get the chance to find his form again but with our hands tied I'd rather sell players who we know can offer more but weren't than be forced to sell someone that was.
I get that there's more to it than just goals, it's an argument I use all the time, but an attacking midfielder/winger does need to provide more than we saw from JJ post-injury because the alternative is that you're just adding pressure to other players to make up the difference. If you have that happening with 2-3 players at the same time you have problems that nmo amount of nice interplay and youtube highlight moments can fix, it's a results game and you don't get anything for looking good in 'safe' areas of the pitch.
Against Palace we had more shots, more possession, more successful carries, more corners and more free kicks in the opposition half but no one would claim we were the better team because they were far more effective than we were. after least season Sancho is more likely to change that for us than Ramsey.
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Ramsey's sending-off at Bournemouth was down to:
a) confronting a home defender after he had been badly fouled,
b) taking a second yellow for a 'ghost' foul in the second half.
Match ref? Stuart Fucking Atwell.
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Ramsey's sending-off at Bournemouth was down to:
a) confronting a home defender after he had been badly fouled,
b) taking a second yellow for a 'ghost' foul in the second half.
Match ref? Stuart Fucking Atwell.
I rated JJ more than most on here but he left us in the shit that day.
We showed a lot of grit that day, none more than Cash and Martinez to hold on for the win after. No sign of that grit in the last couple of games.
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Having lived in both Sheffield and Leeds I'd managed to avoid their mushy peas until one day I went to Bradford where I was introduced to a meat pie drowning in mushing peas with mint sauce. I was not amused. Only thing worse I can think of is chips with gravy. Savages!
So you're saying a Francesinha is nicer than both of them?
All of those should only be eaten out of a dog bowl
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Having lived in both Sheffield and Leeds I'd managed to avoid their mushy peas until one day I went to Bradford where I was introduced to a meat pie drowning in mushing peas with mint sauce. I was not amused. Only thing worse I can think of is chips with gravy. Savages!
So you're saying a Francesinha is nicer than both of them?
All of those should only be eaten out of a dog bowl
Is the correct answer though some dog lovers may rightly argue the Francesinha isn't fit for dogs.
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Having lived in both Sheffield and Leeds I'd managed to avoid their mushy peas until one day I went to Bradford where I was introduced to a meat pie drowning in mushing peas with mint sauce. I was not amused. Only thing worse I can think of is chips with gravy. Savages!
So you're saying a Francesinha is nicer than both of them?
All of those should only be eaten out of a dog bowl
Is the correct answer though some dog lovers may rightly argue the Francesinha isn't fit for dogs.
I was wondering if you could help me. I bought this food from an artisinal market a few weeks ago, it was like this fried potato dough filled with shredded chicken, looked like teardrops? It ended with -inha but I can't remember the start at all.
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That would probably be coxinha. ^^
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I can help you there my monocular mutant fella, that's called 'coxinha' and it's a São Paulo delicacy I believe. I actually made some once for a paulista friend of mine, and she was incredibly stoic about the whole thing.
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Good description of me, Monty! Ah yes, thanks both. I needed to know because I really enjoyed it.
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Good description of me, Monty! Ah yes, thanks both. I needed to know because I really enjoyed it.
Alex and Monty are correct, although you get them all over Brasil now. I've had a few in my time and I agree they're very nice, if a bit heavy. I prefer the basic version (rather than with catupiry) with a drop or two of malagueta pepper sauce. Coxinha is pronounce [co-SHEEN-ya] if you're ever ordering one.
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Good description of me, Monty! Ah yes, thanks both. I needed to know because I really enjoyed it.
Alex and Monty are correct, although you get them all over Brasil now. I've had a few in my time and I agree they're very nice, if a bit heavy. I prefer the basic version (rather than with catupiry) with a drop or two of malagueta pepper sauce. Coxinha is pronounce [co-SHEEN-ya] if you're ever ordering one.
Thanks for that because I had no idea how to pronounce it, I just pointed at them.
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Alex and Monty are correct, although you get them all over Brasil now. I've had a few in my time and I agree they're very nice, if a bit heavy. I prefer the basic version (rather than with catupiry) with a drop or two of malagueta pepper sauce. Coxinha is pronounced [co-SHEEN-ya] if you're ever ordering one.
Thanks for that because I had no idea how to pronounce it, I just pointed at them.
Didn't want you going up and asking for [cocks-in-ya].
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Alex and Monty are correct, although you get them all over Brasil now. I've had a few in my time and I agree they're very nice, if a bit heavy. I prefer the basic version (rather than with catupiry) with a drop or two of malagueta pepper sauce. Coxinha is pronounced [co-SHEEN-ya] if you're ever ordering one.
Thanks for that because I had no idea how to pronounce it, I just pointed at them.
Didn't want you going up and asking for [cocks-in-ya].
I have an invitation for a party where they pronounce loads of different ways.
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Alex and Monty are correct, although you get them all over Brasil now. I've had a few in my time and I agree they're very nice, if a bit heavy. I prefer the basic version (rather than with catupiry) with a drop or two of malagueta pepper sauce. Coxinha is pronounced [co-SHEEN-ya] if you're ever ordering one.
Thanks for that because I had no idea how to pronounce it, I just pointed at them.
Didn't want you going up and asking for [cocks-in-ya].
I'll take whatever I can get.
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Started his Villa career well.
Keep it up Sanch.
I'd start him on Sunday if he's fit enough.
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You can see he has talent. Could be a decent signing.
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Everyone has always known this lad has the ability to be a top footballer, he has just lacked the application. Hopefully that can change here.
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Yes, he’s not set the world alight, but he’s a better option than Bailey. Can he not take a pen?
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I can only remember that he was one of the 3 lads who missed a pen for England.
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He rarely beats a man but he can pass. Possibly playing him behind the striker could suit him, give Rogers some time out.
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Thought he did well when he came on. Certainly better passing than several others and linked well with Digne.
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Where did he disappear to today? He was named on the bench, but not there.
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Hopefully just a minor injury and not a strop.
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Was hoping the same. Or he had the shits.
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Unai: "Sancho was feeling sick before the game so that is why he was not on the bench but he will be important for us. We will add other players in as well with their qualities."
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He’s been sick a while or did he pick up an injury somewhere?
i hope the sickness wasn’t cover for a bad attitude and its not improved since.
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He’s been sick a while or did he pick up an injury somewhere?
i hope the sickness wasn’t cover for a bad attitude and its not improved since.
The new Covid Stratus variant is nasty enough. If the picked that up, I can understand why a footballer would be out for 10-14 days with it.
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He’s been sick a while or did he pick up an injury somewhere?
i hope the sickness wasn’t cover for a bad attitude and its not improved since.
The new Covid Stratus variant is nasty enough. If the picked that up, I can understand why a footballer would be out for 10-14 days with it.
Yep I have had it, really rough for a week or so and even now another week later, still a but of a cough, aching legs etc
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The new Covid Stratus variant is nasty enough. If the picked that up, I can understand why a footballer would be out for 10-14 days with it.
Yep I have had it, really rough for a week or so and even now another week later, still a but of a cough, aching legs etc
Yeah, I've had Covid 3 or 4 times and am normally over it in a day and a half or so. This time, a hoarse voice for a day, followed by a sore throat, fatigue, and aches for a couple of days, but then a nasty cough for 3-4 days. I hardly ever get a bad cough, but this was right down near the diaphragm and left me feeling like I'd done loads of sit-ups.
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The new Covid Stratus variant is nasty enough. If the picked that up, I can understand why a footballer would be out for 10-14 days with it.
Yep I have had it, really rough for a week or so and even now another week later, still a but of a cough, aching legs etc
Yeah, I've had Covid 3 or 4 times and am normally over it in a day and a half or so. This time, a hoarse voice for a day, followed by a sore throat, fatigue, and aches for a couple of days, but then a nasty cough for 3-4 days. I hardly ever get a bad cough, but this was right down near the diaphragm and left me feeling like I'd done loads of sit-ups.
Yea my daughter has that cough now, has come back from uni for a few days R&R.
Thoughts and prayers with Jaden 😢😄
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Hopefully just a minor injury and not a strop.
he's had a stropadicktome operation.
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Unai doesn't rate him does he?
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We don't know that. Let's not right him off already FFS
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We don't know that. Let's not right him off already FFS
Correct.
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He just needs to learn the system. Hopefully he's not as thick as shit as he sometimes comes across and it'll click with him. Otherwise we're paying him £150k a week for bugger-all.
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We may get to see him in Europe ?
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We don't know that. Let's not right him off already FFS
I haven't. However he'll have a better chance of learning the system if he actually gets off the bench.
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he was injured though wasn’t he ?
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He has looked good when on the pitch. His time will come.
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he was injured though wasn’t he ?
No, sick.
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He has looked good when on the pitch. His time will come.
Looked ok in my opinion nothing more thus far. Hasnt played a lot so hard to judge
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He has looked good when on the pitch. His time will come.
Looked ok in my opinion nothing more thus far. Hasnt played a lot so hard to judge
Yeh I’m in the nothing to see here camp at the moment, he will be important later in the season
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He has looked good when on the pitch. His time will come.
Looked ok in my opinion nothing more thus far. Hasnt played a lot so hard to judge
Yeh I’m in the nothing to see here camp at the moment, he will be important later in the season
This is very true, the league season isn’t even a quarter done and all we’ve seen is a few nice little cameos. The important time for him and Elliott is in Dec and Jan when the games come thick and fast and we need that squad depth.
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He has something about him. I think he’ll play an important role.