Jadon Sancho (loan)

[N'ZMAV]

the players that were key we didn't replace were Asensio and Rashford - Ramsey didn't play much that season

[brontebilly]

My point, yet again, is that Sancho was never going to be a good fit in our setup as we don't play with traditional wingers. Emery continually tries wingers and they don't work. Our wide positions suit McGinn, Ramsey in the past and sure Buendia this season as they are comfortable coming into the centre of the pitch taking possession. Stevie Wonder could have seen Guessand didn't have the technical ability to play there. It's a tough role that requires a lot of tactical discipline, technical ability and engine to get up and down the pitch. Sancho met one of those three requirements. Ramsey met all three for me.

Rashford didn't work in midfield either, a point that continues to fly over your and others heads, he only got going as a 9. Sure Emery seems insistent to keep trying with a traditional winger, Id prefer if he focused on a player that fits into our setup. Even when Bailey was at his best we were moving McGinn out of his best position.

[cdbearsfan]

We don't play with traditional wingers apart from all the times we do.

[paul_e]

My point, yet again, is that Sancho was never going to be a good fit in our setup as we don't play with traditional wingers. Emery continually tries wingers and they don't work. Our wide positions suit McGinn, Ramsey in the past and sure Buendia this season as they are comfortable coming into the centre of the pitch taking possession. Stevie Wonder could have seen Guessand didn't have the technical ability to play there. It's a tough role that requires a lot of tactical discipline, technical ability and engine to get up and down the pitch. Sancho met one of those three requirements. Ramsey met all three for me.

Rashford didn't work in midfield either, a point that continues to fly over your and others heads, he only got going as a 9. Sure Emery seems insistent to keep trying with a traditional winger, Id prefer if he focused on a player that fits into our setup. Even when Bailey was at his best we were moving McGinn out of his best position.

Again you insisting on your pet rants doesn't suddenly make them true, no matter how many clouds you shout them at. Rashford got 5 assists in 7 games on the wing and, whilst clearly not match fit, he was doing pretty much everything you'd want from a winger.

The last line sums you up perfectly, the best manager we've ever had, overseeing the best run of league finishes we've had since Victorian times and you still think you know better than him, the delusion is breath-taking.

[RamboandBruno]

Diaby and Bailey (2 years ago) were traditional wingers and both worked.
Rashford largely played wide as a winger like he does for England, that worked.

[Dave]

Diaby and Bailey (2 years ago) were traditional wingers and both worked.

I don't want to associate myself with the crazy rantings of the other guy, but my recollection is that Diaby started as a proper winger and then turned into the proto-Rogers, running through the middle and drifting wide when the space was there.

[brontebilly]

My point, yet again, is that Sancho was never going to be a good fit in our setup as we don't play with traditional wingers. Emery continually tries wingers and they don't work. Our wide positions suit McGinn, Ramsey in the past and sure Buendia this season as they are comfortable coming into the centre of the pitch taking possession. Stevie Wonder could have seen Guessand didn't have the technical ability to play there. It's a tough role that requires a lot of tactical discipline, technical ability and engine to get up and down the pitch. Sancho met one of those three requirements. Ramsey met all three for me.

Rashford didn't work in midfield either, a point that continues to fly over your and others heads, he only got going as a 9. Sure Emery seems insistent to keep trying with a traditional winger, Id prefer if he focused on a player that fits into our setup. Even when Bailey was at his best we were moving McGinn out of his best position.

Again you insisting on your pet rants doesn't suddenly make them true, no matter how many clouds you shout them at. Rashford got 5 assists in 7 games on the wing and, whilst clearly not match fit, he was doing pretty much everything you'd want from a winger.

The last line sums you up perfectly, the best manager we've ever had, overseeing the best run of league finishes we've had since Victorian times and you still think you know better than him, the delusion is breath-taking.

Why was Rashford moved out of midfield then if he was doing everything expected? 4 assists, one v 10 man Ipswich, Cardiff and 2 x Chelsea as per transfermarkt. His best contribution in that position was getting the guy sent off v Brugge. That aside he left us unbalanced in midfield against decent opposition.

Re the last line/para...if Carlsberg did irony etc

[Mellin]

The winger can spend 90% of the game sat on the grass making daisy chains for all I care, as long as he does the business.

1 goal and one assist was it......hardly doing the business all for nearly£200k per week

Waste of space

That is a fair criticism. My problem is with people, I'm talking in the stands here, losing their shit when a winger doesn't commit to a challenge. It was ever thus and it's not what they are in the team for. I was a centre half. I did the dirty stuff. The 21-year-old kid on the wing who tore teams to shreds...you focus on that. As long as he covered the space and tracked, which Sancho did, then fine.

[AGRIPPA]

The winger can spend 90% of the game sat on the grass making daisy chains for all I care, as long as he does the business.

1 goal and one assist was it......hardly doing the business all for nearly£200k per week

Waste of space

That is a fair criticism. My problem is with people, I'm talking in the stands here, losing their shit when a winger doesn't commit to a challenge. It was ever thus and it's not what they are in the team for. I was a centre half. I did the dirty stuff. The 21-year-old kid on the wing who tore teams to shreds...you focus on that. As long as he covered the space and tracked, which Sancho did, then fine.

He offered very little in attack….hardly more than Bailey!
Once we get that player we will be cooking

[brontebilly]

Sancho pulled out of a tackle he was favourite to win in an opposition box. Might have been a European away game. He was horrendous. He actively avoided any physical contact. Nobody was expecting him to steam into tackles or win headers.

[Hillbilly]

My old dad said that Villa could be playing on the biggest mudbath of a pitch and Jackie Sewell would walk of the pitch at the end of the match as the only player with a pristine kit. Twas ever thus with wingers.

[Skipper_The_Eyechild]

I don't know, you couldn't say that for the likes of Mane, Diaz, Bale. Expensive, mind, but wingers have moved away from just being mercurial talents, on the whole.

[SaddVillan]

I think it's time to shut down this thread and put it where it belongs.

In the bin - along with its subject.

[Dogtanian]

I think it's time to shut down this thread and put it where it belongs.

In the bin - along with its subject.

We would definitely sign him then…

[TonyD]

It’s like continuing debating if the earth is flat or not.