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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on August 31, 2014, 03:25:08 PM
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Thank fuck for that. Once again we stopped playing after about 50 minutes. Superb first half and then we went into our normal VP shell. Lots to do still but 7pts from 9 is a really good start
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It should have been a lot more comfortable, but the first half was tremendous and, the goal apart, we rarely actually looked threatened defensively (even when we couldn't get the ball off them in the second half).
This is really promising. I did not think it would be like this after three games.
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I hope Vlaar is okay. Good win.
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One stupid foul by Sanchez caused all that mayhem. Overall great 3 points though.
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Sure didn't make it easy for ourselves with that second half nonsense, especially with Sanchez unnecessarily conceding the free kick which produced their goal and with Bent missing that chance to wrap things up.
Still, 7 from the first three games is a great achievement, and a lot of positives, especially in that first half performance.
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I did not think it would be like this after three games.
Me neither but I'm so glad it is as I'm not sure we'll get much from our next five games.
That first half was great but why can't we ever sustain a decent performance for two consecutive halves?
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Pleased with the result really good first half not so good second but happy with the result.
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I don't get why we fix things that aren't broken. Sanchez substitution refers.
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28,336 tickets sold
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They were on top second half but we still had a few good breakaways, and they didn't really create a great deal aside from the goal. Guzan had to make one top save but not much more.
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The first half was tremendous. In the second we defended very well and despite conceding Hull barely had a sniff for all their possession. Fantastic start to the season.
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I reckon jack will be a 20 a season man, not goals, but yellow cards against him
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I don't get why we fix things that aren't broken. Sanchez substitution refers.
I thought it was logical. We were being dominated and N'Zogbia hadn't been playing very well so it was fair to take N'Zog off, put Richardson wide and strengthen the middle to try and get more of the ball.
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How many shots on goal was that?!
BBC says 11
That sounds better than it was, before today I mean. Almost got Delph and Bent in the goals as well as Gabby and Weimann. More of the first half stuff, please, well done Villa.
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Grealish looking promising.
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Att: 28,336. I think that's the lowest crowd for years.
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Deserved the three points anyway but that was a lot more difficult near the end than it needed to be.
Positives
Solid at the back, Gabby and Weimann were much improved, Grealish had a great cameo, pressing a lot higher up the pitch forced lots of mistakes from the awful Hull back three including for the goal
Negatives
full backs offering no width going forward, midfield disappearing in second half, Sanchez being miles off the pace when he came in, Nzogbia
Steve Bruce's tactics played straight in our hands in the first half. Gas as before the game the commentator was bigging up Davies and Huddlestone for England call ups. Only when they were taken off did they improve
We need more quality to come in over the next 2 days badly
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Grealish looking promising.
He is a talent. Why doesn't he wear shin pads though? It just makes it more likely that he will get hurt. >:(
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I reckon jack will be a 20 a season man, not goals, but yellow cards against him
It was 4 just for today wasn't it? 20's probably being conservative.
Could have been 4-0 up at half time. Even at 2-1, Delph had a chance to play Grealish in and instead got greedy and had a crap shot. Its things like that will stop him from being an England regular.
Really good first half, disappointing second half but all that matters was getting the points. When the fixtures came out we knew we had to make the most of the first 3 games and we have done. Hopefully we can still nick some points from the next few fixtures.
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Grealish looking promising.
I do like that despite the hatchet job they were doing on him, he didn't seem fazed. He still looked for the ball. He's tougher than he looks. It was clearly planned, should he come on, that they'd muller him a few times to try and unsettle him. He was on no more than 10 seconds before Rosenior clattered him. Delph should have done a little better at the end from Jacks ball too.
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Lovely feeling to go into an international break third and with a win. Hopefully, Vlaar has time to recover and we might see Okore and Benteke on the bench for our next game - bindippers away?
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Grealish looks great. Bit worried about his lack of shin pads, mind!
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Excellent stuff, I was out and when I finally got some mobile phone reception checked the score it was 2-0. Sounds like we were excellent in the first half, and dipped a bit in the second. Hopefully Vlaar isn't badly injured, it's been a very good start to the season. A couple of good additions and we're in a good position.
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He does wear pads they are just the small ones , I'm pretty sure you are not allowed on the pitch with no pads.
Vlaar is a concern as he was holding his calf which has been an issue before.
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Deserved the three points anyway but that was a lot more difficult near the end than it needed to be.
Positives
Solid at the back, Gabby and Weimann were much improved, Grealish had a great cameo, pressing a lot higher up the pitch forced lots of mistakes from the awful Hull back three including for the goal
Negatives
full backs offering no width going forward, midfield disappearing in second half, Sanchez being miles off the pace when he came in, Nzogbia
Steve Bruce's tactics played straight in our hands in the first half. Gas as before the game the commentator was bigging up Davies and Huddlestone for England call ups. Only when they were taken off did they improve
We need more quality to come in over the next 2 days badly
It was difficult for our full backs today due to them playing with wing backs. Ours would always have a man against them and also then leave the middle exposed.
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Att: 28,336. I think that's the lowest crowd for years.
fairly shocking to be honest. its not too long ago we were debating expanding Villa Park
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He does wear pads they are just the small ones , I'm pretty sure you are not allowed on the pitch with no pads.
Vlaar is a concern as he was holding his calf which has been an issue before.
At least we can probably count on him going nowhere before the window shuts
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Really good first half, best in a long while. Much harder than it should have been in the 2nd- Hull were very poor and the game should have been long over by the time they go back into it.
That's the most I've seen of Grealish to be honest and he looks a player.
All in all, very encouraging. Stop the league now, yeah?
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How many CL qualifying rounds do you play if you finish third?
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Still unbeaten in the league, both strikers amongst the goals, currently sat in the top three, what's not to be pleased about?
There'll be plenty of games this season when we have just cause for concern at the final whistle but today has been a good day.
I'm off out now for a few beers and a curry with my mates (who are all Man Citeh and Man Ure fans) so I will be sure to enjoy the moment!
UTV
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Deserved the three points anyway but that was a lot more difficult near the end than it needed to be.
Positives
Solid at the back, Gabby and Weimann were much improved, Grealish had a great cameo, pressing a lot higher up the pitch forced lots of mistakes from the awful Hull back three including for the goal
Negatives
full backs offering no width going forward, midfield disappearing in second half, Sanchez being miles off the pace when he came in, Nzogbia
Steve Bruce's tactics played straight in our hands in the first half. Gas as before the game the commentator was bigging up Davies and Huddlestone for England call ups. Only when they were taken off did they improve
We need more quality to come in over the next 2 days badly
It was difficult for our full backs today due to them playing with wing backs. Ours would always have a man against them and also then leave the middle exposed.
Think we need to get forward more, Weimann in particular will always come infield so there should be room down the flank for our full backs to creep into. Dont think it happened once today. Cissoko doesnt look as if he is comfortable on the ball, preferring the physical exchanges but that makes us a bit predictable going forward.
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Only seen the goals and followed on t'web. Very happy with that.
Let's not get over excited. We've not played one of the good teams yet and hull's defending on both goals looked very poor. And to think I thought Dawson might keep our guys quiet!
Tactics clearly worked in the first half. Both goals coming from crowding the central areas and moving out from in (which lambert has been often criticised for). But there's obviously sterner tests to come
Bent is gonna be nowhere once the other guys get fit. Two goals and twice hitting the woodwork sounds like the best 45 minutes of football in a while.
Having a defence that doesn't concede a silly goal or two 30 minutes in is making such a difference
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I think our full backs were pressed back in the second half but first did ok going forward. I thought Cissokho struggled with the sun in the second half with balls coming across the box.
I think a midfielder and a winger seem the obvious needs to give us more options. Our pressing was outstanding first half, but we need like for like to be able to come on and keep the pace of the game. I reckon Sanchez might take a few games.
Hope we get 2 in tomorrow to consolidate what has been an impressive start to the season.
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Grealish looking promising.
I do like that despite the hatchet job they were doing on him, he didn't seem fazed. He still looked for the ball. He's tougher than he looks. It was clearly planned, should he come on, that they'd muller him a few times to try and unsettle him. He was on no more than 10 seconds before Rosenior clattered him. Delph should have done a little better at the end from Jacks ball too.
He got hit hard by some big bastards in League One. Jack probably thought those Premier League tacklers were right fairies in comparison.
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How many CL qualifying rounds do you play if you finish third?
None.
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Att: 28,336. I think that's the lowest crowd for years.
fairly shocking to be honest. its not too long ago we were debating expanding Villa Park
Why is it shocking? There has been very little football or entertainment at Villa Park for over 4 years now. If the club are pretty much settling for surviving for the foreseeable future what is there for non die hards to buy in to?
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Hope Vlaar's injury is minor. I think that rules him out leaving anyway.
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That was much better and I did expect that second half. A big man up front to hold up play would have helped also with Zog tiring (which is expected) didn't help. Overall a really good game, Bent could have wrapped it up, like the other night though his finishing has deserted him.
Please lets get Tom in and maybe another. Well done Villa
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Bruce will be upset at all the fouling of Grealish because in my opinion it took them right off their game. To that point they were well on top and the constant attention to Grealish derailed those intentions. Well done Jack
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Grealish looking promising.
I do like that despite the hatchet job they were doing on him, he didn't seem fazed. He still looked for the ball. He's tougher than he looks. It was clearly planned, should he come on, that they'd muller him a few times to try and unsettle him. He was on no more than 10 seconds before Rosenior clattered him. Delph should have done a little better at the end from Jacks ball too.
He got hit hard by some big bastards in League One. Jack probably thought those Premier League tacklers were right fairies in comparison.
Got a lot of kudos from the R5 Live commentators for his attitude, resilience and skills.
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Pretty excellent first half, fairly worrying last 20
Lets be happy with 3 points
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Thought first half was excellent. Westwood, Hutton impressed. Second half we did the job but we should've been clear by then.
I'm happy.
But not dwarfish.
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On the Grealish shin pad thing. He does wear them, he has no choice, it's a safety issue covered in the laws of the game. All players equipment is checked by the officials before they leave the tunnel and again, if they are named substitutes, before they enter the field of play. It's the way Grealish wears his socks that gives the illusion he doesn't wear shin pads.
All players have to remove jewellery except for religious reasons in which case the items have to be made safe so that injuries cannot occur to any other player or the wearer himself. If rings cannot be removed then, they have to be taped up.
Hope that clears a few things up. Great win BTW.
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Hope Vlaar's injury is minor. I think that rules him out leaving anyway.
To the people saying this, I wouldn't worry: we have Clark and Baker ready if Okore isn't ready back yet.
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As I said in the pre-match thread:
2-1 I reckon. A goal in each half for us, then an 85th minute reply for them to take a few more years off me.
Slightly off on the timings, but other than that pretty spot on! Including the nervousness at the end.
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Excellent first half, two well worked goals, good passing in midfield and just a calm sense about us even if Hull were toss.
Yeah second half was a wee bit more tricky but good to see it off and get the win with the fixtures we have coming up.
Sanchez looks a bit off the pace to me, probably wise not to start him today. Thought Weimann was excellent and should've got MOTM ahead of Gabby.
And what the hell was the Hull defenders beef with Grealish. Just because he dosen't pull his socks up? Ridiculous challenges on him!
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As I said in the pre-match thread:
2-1 I reckon. A goal in each half for us, then an 85th minute reply for them to take a few more years off me.
Slightly off on the timings, but other than that pretty spot on! Including the nervousness at the end.
It wouldn't have been right if we had cruised to victory. I'm just glad the back line contained competent defenders to see us home.
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Shame we couldn't keep that clean sheet. Would've been quite cool to be the only prem club not to concede a goal and slightly amusing after all the chaos of the last few seasons.
Just shows the value of experience in some areas. The 4 we have aren't the best players we've ever had in those positions but collectively as a unit they seem to have clicked. Although I worry a bit about teams with a bit more pace upfront against us.
Suppose next few fixtures will be a pretty good test.
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Very enjoyable first half and 3-0 wouldn't have flattered us at the break. Hull changing to four at the back improved them but they didn't create clear cut chances and their goal was fortunate, thought Sanchez challenge leading to the free kick was poorly judged. Young jack showed he has quick feet, like watching a match from yesteryear the way they kept hacking him down.
Very pleasing points tally and nice to see decent options on the bench but it's early days as we all know. Not surprised about the attendance, a lot of seriously pissed off fans out there who have voted with their feet. A surprise win or two against the big boys and hopefully crowds will improve.
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The players in our defence aren't amazing but they are all premier league quality. We've often fielded a back four where one or sometimes none are premier league quality, defensively at least
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Att: 28,336. I think that's the lowest crowd for years.
fairly shocking to be honest. its not too long ago we were debating expanding Villa Park
Why is it shocking? There has been very little football or entertainment at Villa Park for over 4 years now. If the club are pretty much settling for surviving for the foreseeable future what is there for non die hards to buy in to?
Gabby's post-match interview ain't gonna sell any tickets. He basically admitted that our tactics are centred almost exclusively around keeping a clean sheet and nicking a goal if we can.
Of course we sort of know this, but it's a bit sobering to hear that these are the instructions of the manager, especially after a home game v. Hull.
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Normally on the piss at this point, but yes great result, there was me slagging gabby and andi off before the match to my mates, seems to have done the trick.
BUT that fuckin clatenburg he is the biggest ****** going. gave no protection to a young player from the synical over the top challenges provided by there number 2 then number 18 did get booked but showed himself to know fuck all about the game. and injury time 5 minutes, Well ill ask you have you ever seen a referee, ball gone out throw in to hull, referee runs to the ball and throws it to the hull player. he is dodgy as fuck.
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To be fair, to build from the back isn't unheard of.
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Gabby's post-match interview ain't gonna sell any tickets. He basically admitted that our tactics are centred almost exclusively around keeping a clean sheet and nicking a goal if we can.
We certainly didn't play like that first half!
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Decent first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
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Great first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
Fixed
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Att: 28,336. I think that's the lowest crowd for years.
fairly shocking to be honest. its not too long ago we were debating expanding Villa Park
Why is it shocking? There has been very little football or entertainment at Villa Park for over 4 years now. If the club are pretty much settling for surviving for the foreseeable future what is there for non die hards to buy in to?
Gabby's post-match interview ain't gonna sell any tickets. He basically admitted that our tactics are centred almost exclusively around keeping a clean sheet and nicking a goal if we can.
Of course we sort of know this, but it's a bit sobering to hear that these are the instructions of the manager, especially after a home game v. Hull.
Our home form has been woeful for seasons so it's no surprise we've lost some fans. If we can simply win more home games then fans will trickle I'm sure as you always attract more with winning football.
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Decent first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
Bolox, what was awful about the second half, were 2=0 up obviously the team loosing are going to up the anti and we responded, equally good second half from us, WE WON.
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Very happy with the win and some decent performances. Most impressed with the approach first half - bags of energy and meant we created chances because we forced mistakes - most goals come from a turnover in possession when the ball is moved quickly.
The other thing for me - even before any other additions before the transfer window closes - if they are all fit then I can't see N'Zog, Bent or Cole in the matchday squad. Probably also true of Clark, Lowton and maybe Baker. UTV
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Decent first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
Bolox, what was awful about the second half, were 2=0 up obviously the team loosing are going to up the anti and we responded, equally good second half from us, WE WON.
Equally good second half? Ok.... :o
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Very happy with the win and some decent performances. Most impressed with the approach first half - bags of energy and meant we created chances because we forced mistakes - most goals come from a turnover in possession when the ball is moved quickly.
The other thing for me - even before any other additions before the transfer window closes - if they are all fit then I can't see N'Zog, Bent or Cole in the matchday squad. Probably also true of Clark, Lowton and maybe Baker. UTV
N'zogbia and Cole are decent options on the bench, Bent is pretty poor nowadays. No wonder no one wants him with finishing like that.
Don't think Lowton has made the squad yet this season, you'd think he'll probably go on loan somewhere tomorrow.
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Just got back in and like many have already said, we dropped off the pace alarmingly after a good first half performance. He gets a lot of criticism (deserved at times), but I thought Gabby had a good game today and caused them all kinds of problems. Sitting in the bottom tier of the North Stand, it was clear that Vlaar injured his calf and looked like he was really struggling with it.
All in all though, a good start to the season going into the international break. I think home defeats in the last two games would have really been detrimental to everyone, so to get four points from them is a good return. The new signings have so far been significant upgrades on the players they have replaced and hopefully a couple more will come in tomorrow.
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Decent first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
Bolox, what was awful about the second half, were 2=0 up obviously the team loosing are going to up the anti and we responded, equally good second half from us, WE WON.
Equally good second half? Ok.... :o
WERE U AT THE GAME?
Cuz ur comment is not accurate at all , I would use the word awful if my team didn't show up for the second half but their goal was a well worked free kick, other than that they had I think 1 shot on target and kicked the shit out of Grealish.
oh yeah :o to you
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Great first half. All over them like a rash.
More evenly-balanced second half.
Silly challenge by Sanchez to give away the free-kick that led to their goal. Bent seems to have forgotten what goals look like. Grealish is going to be something special and the way he was targetted today was out of order, but it disrupted their flow of play. Very pleased overall and we looked a lot livelier in front of goal.
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How many CL qualifying rounds do you play if you finish third?
None.
Which is the same number if you finish any position other than 4th...
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Great 1st half, even if Hull's defence was a bit generous.
2nd half was OK, Hull didn't really create anything of note for all their possession.
Good performances all round, the targeting of Grealish was shocking; obviously under instruction from Spud head.
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Decent first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
Bolox, what was awful about the second half, were 2=0 up obviously the team loosing are going to up the anti and we responded, equally good second half from us, WE WON.
It probably wasn't awful, but it wasn't great as we fell into some old bad habits and getting deeper and deeper and essentially inviting trouble. Against better sides it will be a problem if we cannot fix that. All in all a good result but it wasn't in any way perfect. The first half was very good indeed.
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They may as well hand over the title to us now. Last 35 games are a formality.
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A good win. A good end to the weekend.
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Thought we played really well in the first half. Hull started to get going in the second half and had a lot of possession - I was in a minority of one who thought Lambert was right to bring Sanchez on to try and break up their play. Having said that I thought he was poor and gave away a stupid free kick which led to their goal. Bent really should have stuck that chance away near the end to make the last few minutes less stressful. Not sure why Hull seemed to have a contract out on Grealish - some of their challenges were straight out of the 70's, but the repeated fouls helped us out - more yellows for them, more possession for us
And as for the clowns in the North Stand who think it's hilarious to keep the ball - it isn't, and just adds to the extra time at the end. And given our record for conceding late it's not exactly the brightest thing to do
Oh - and really poor attendance. ST sales must be really down this season
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Bruce made a lot if changes starting with taking Curtis Davies off at half time and seemed to want to flood their midfield,glad to see him take Huddlestone off,but Sanchez seemed to be off the pace a bit and they continued to have the lion's share of possesion,however Bent puts that chance away well made by Westwood and the scoreline would have been a better reflection on the game.Hull were poor .
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Very happy with the win and some decent performances. Most impressed with the approach first half - bags of energy and meant we created chances because we forced mistakes - most goals come from a turnover in possession when the ball is moved quickly.
The other thing for me - even before any other additions before the transfer window closes - if they are all fit then I can't see N'Zog, Bent or Cole in the matchday squad. Probably also true of Clark, Lowton and maybe Baker. UTV
N'zogbia and Cole are decent options on the bench, Bent is pretty poor nowadays. No wonder no one wants him with finishing like that.
Don't think Lowton has made the squad yet this season, you'd think he'll probably go on loan somewhere tomorrow.
With 7 spots on the bench, probably 3 strikers/attacking midfield players. If we start with Benteke, Kozak, plus either Gabby or Weimann, then the options from the bench are whichever of Gabby or Weimann doesn't start, Grealish and one other - maybe N'Zog or Cole but certainly not both and not Bent.
If a winger/wide attacker does come in then certainly none of the three will feature.
All that said, if the first choice options are Benteke and Kozak then I think we won't play 4-3-3, but will go 4-3-1-2. If Lambert favours energy over guile then the advanced/attacking mid could or would be Delph.
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Good first half,sorry , but negative second half. A win is a win though in the Premier League and I am very pleased. I think the subs gave Hull the upper hand but had Bent scored, we were comfy. Lambert is way too negative for me, but I can fully understand why he would be so desperate for the win. Fair play.
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Good stuff. After the mental battering of the last few years it will always be that little bit tough to close games out at the moment, so falling back as Hull pressed forward to chase the game was pretty predicatable and understandable. Games between the 'bottom half teams' are very often like this, with a late equaliser or a breakaway third often on the menu.
Touch wood Vlaars calf isn't too bad, vital to keep Baker out of the team! Sorry for the cheapshot, but it's true!
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It looked like we went to zonal marking in the second half, giving Hull a lot of possession and space. It was unnecessary and made it very likely we'd concede. I understand you can't go full pelt for ninety minutes but the last quarter of an hour says more about Villa's unfamiliarity with being comfortable winners than Hull City working us out.
That said, I can't find it in me to criticise too much. I very much enjoyed watching Villa today and if Mr Benteke had been an option today, we could have been three or four up in that first half.
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We played some good stuff in the first half, and the defence were solid once again. As soccerhq posted though, they have not come up against genuine wide speed merchants yet. That will be tested soon enough.
I was a little concerned that PL did not respond to Bruce's half time adjustments, which tilted the game.
I think all of us would have settled for 7 points from the first 3 games.
Cautious optimism undented, particularly if we get Cleverley and one other.
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Two or three points I'd like to make. We deserved the win. Agbonlahor had an excellent all round performance in the first half and Weimann took his goal very well. Second half we fell off the pace a bit. Jack Grealish (whether he wears shinpads or not) is going to get seriously hurt unless he pulls his socks up. Who does he think he is Steve Claridge!
A bloke three seats along from me watched about 20mins of the whole match in total. He was, head down, texting furiously for the other seventy!.
What is the point of going? I cant see any reason at all.
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Happy with a home win at last, very good in the first half and did enough in the second half. Bent should have made it safe and I'm sure when he gets one his confidence will return.
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Much better start to the season than many of us thought. Nerve wracking towards the end, but stating the obvious, we held on.
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Just home from being 1 of that very low attendance figure. Villa do not look naive and hapless any more!
Bruce changed from 352 to 442 at the start of the 2nd half by subbing Pub Player for Rosenoir & Hull then contained Villa's passing better. Their hatchet job on Grealish was incredible, but at least it broke up the play & wound down the clock.
A horrible run of fixtures after the international break, but playing tight & passing well will give us a chance of scraping some points from those.
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Decent first half.
Awful second.
Typical Villa.
Bolox, what was awful about the second half, were 2=0 up obviously the team loosing are going to up the anti and we responded, equally good second half from us, WE WON.
Equally good second half? Ok.... :o
WERE U AT THE GAME?
Cuz ur comment is not accurate at all , I would use the word awful if my team didn't show up for the second half but their goal was a well worked free kick, other than that they had I think 1 shot on target and kicked the shit out of Grealish.
oh yeah :o to you
Awful 2nd half ? , really ? this is the Telegraph,s ( more realistic , IMO ) take on the proceedings :
" Hull were a shambles for much of the second half, frequently misplacing passes and testing the patience of Bruce in his technical area.
Tom Huddlestone, usually so influential, was hauled off with 19 minutes remaining and not long afterwards the visitors responded. Robbie Brady’s free kick created the first panic in the Villa defence and Nikica Jelavic’s header was helped along the line by Aly Cissokho.
Suddenly Villa’s back line appeared vulnerable as Hull turned the screw but Lambert's players did enough " .
..................................Godzvilla!
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I was very pleased with the first half. We pressed very well and that started up front with both Gabby and Andi working hard off the ball, as well as looking dangerous on it. Andi seemed to come in side and make more central runs that Hull just weren't picking up.
Senderos impressed again with the way he reads the game and the whole back four is very solid indeed.
Second half I thought the midfield sat too deep and they came onto us a little more. I wouldn't say we were hanging on, as Hull only seemed to have that one shot late on, while we wasted two good attempts to put it beyond doubt. But we saw it through, which is the point.
The treatment of the impressive Grealish was an utter disgrace. Bruce should be ashamed, that talentless pub players had to resort to hacking at the lad who has more ability in his left foot than that no mark Hull side has in their entire squad.
A very well deserved three points.
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Just got in. Delighted with the 3 points. Glad we have 7 points on the board before this run of tough games.
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The player that impressed me today was Richardson - playing out of position he did well keeping attacking movements going and helped keep Hull defending rather than venturing into our half. Nothing spectacular but a good solid performance that was important to keep us on top in the first half.
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Just got in. Delighted with the 3 points. Glad we have 7 points on the board before this run of tough games.
And we are THIRD!
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Just got in. Delighted with the 3 points. Glad we have 7 points on the board before this run of tough games.
And we are THIRD!
Blow it up, ref!
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Just got in. Delighted with the 3 points. Glad we have 7 points on the board before this run of tough games.
And we are THIRD!
Nose bleed territory.
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The player that impressed me today was Richardson - playing out of position he did well keeping attacking movements going and helped keep Hull defending rather than venturing into our half. Nothing spectacular but a good solid performance that was important to keep us on top in the first half.
I said this to my seat neighbour just before HT. They placed a man on Delph but forgot about Richardson and he was very effective.
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Wonderful three points!
Brilliant first half - thought we stopped pressing quite so tightly second half and let them have the ball too easily - and we still keep giving it away/wasting possession from good positions.
Gabby's best game for a long time and some good touches from Weimann first half, at last!
Fully expected them to get a goal back but disappointed that Bent has had 3 very good chances in the last two games and is yet to hit the target!
Thought the treatment dealt out to Jack was straight from the Tamworth Sunday League, div 5. Clattenberg's a twat!
Am going to enjoy being 3rd before the next 5 fixtures kick in...
Might even have a pint this evening! ;-)
UTV!
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Tremendous first half performance with control and power resulting in two fine goals. This match should have been 4-0 so 2-1 is very flattering for Hull. They changed it a bit in the second but we did very well to see out their expected fight back in the first 15/20 minutes after the break. Strangely the sub I was screaming for did not work in our favour. Today I thought Sanchez did not quite fit in and whilst N'Zogbia was his usual self Hull midfielders operated better when he was off. It affected our balance. Huddleston going off also helped them along with a totally unnecessary foul by Carlos. Having said that we played out the last 15 minutes very well and if only Bent knew how to score these days we would have restored some realism into the scoreline.
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Just got in. Delighted with the 3 points. Glad we have 7 points on the board before this run of tough games.
And we are THIRD!
Nose bleed territory.
Get the oxygen cylinders out
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Clattenberg should have gone up to the Hull captain after the second foul on Grealish and warned him the next intentional foul on Grealish would be a red. Pathetic really that PL players resorted to that against a kid
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Clattenberg should have gone up to the Hull captain after the second foul on Grealish and warned him the next intentional foul on Grealish would be a red. Pathetic really that PL players resorted to that against a kid
Shocking behaviour and blatant. I hope they are reported to the FA. Not that that would make any difference.
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Tremendous first half performance with control and power resulting in two fine goals. This match should have been 4-0 so 2-1 is very flattering for Hull. They changed it a bit in the second but we did very well to see out their expected fight back in the first 15/20 minutes after the break. Strangely the sub I was screaming for did not work in our favour. Today I thought Sanchez did not quite fit in and whilst N'Zogbia was his usual self Hull midfielders operated better when he was off. It affected our balance. Huddleston going off also helped them along with a totally unnecessary foul by Carlos. Having said that we played out the last 15 minutes very well and if only Bent knew how to score these days we would have restored some realism into the scoreline.
Pretty much exactly my thoughts too. If Westwood's free kick had gone in Hull would have gone into damage limitation mode and the scoreline would have been more reflective of the game. Excellent first half. Second half inevitably a bit of an anti climax as the onus was all on Hull to do something. On today's evidence Hull will be there or thereabouts in the relegation mix.
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2 games already this season we have professionally seen out a slender lead to take the 3 points. Credit where it's due because we have been dreadful at this for ages.
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I will go with what has been said by everybody about the first half. I thought the second half we sat back and fell into the old ways of trying to play the game standing still with long passes/long punts up the pitch. In the first half there was great movement and the passing was a lot shorter as players were finding space. Also in the first half balls were put in front of the fullbacks. Second half passes went behind them and they had to turn or in most cases passing the ball back. My biggest frustration is seeing Villa keeping possession and working the ball up to the half way line in the centre of the pitch and then playing a 25 yard pass back which then usually ends with a big boot forward or even more frustratingly back to Guzan.
Sanchez seems to have come in for a bit of stick but it is not easy to come on when the other team has all of the possession and suddenly change it. What I did see was him trying to get Villa play further up the pitch by pointing to which players needed closing down and positioning himself half way between the halfway line and the penalty area rather than on the edge of the area and trying to get Delph and Westwood to play in front of him more. As others have said it was a needless free-kick to give away but that tends to be very common in South America. As I said, difficult to get into a game quickly for a player that plays his position and I think Lambert should have brought him on earlier as it was clear that Hull were dominating possession from the start of the 2nd half.
All in all, cannot complain with another win and a steady start to the season.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
it's no surprise after all of the bluster he ended up at Hull. And in fact watching him today even Hull might be above him. He's a good player and could be a lot better but led down the wrong path by his dad.
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Paul Ince always struck me as a grade A tool.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
it's no surprise after all of the bluster he ended up at Hull. And in fact watching him today even Hull might be above him. He's a good player and could be a lot better but led down the wrong path by his dad.
He looked really promising in his days at Blackpool. His dad has a lot to answer for. Trying to keep his own name in the papers rather than let his son make his own decisions.
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Paul Ince always struck me as a grade A tool.
That's because he is one.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
If his name was Tom Smith he'd be playing in the lower reaches of The Championship or in League One
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Third !!
And with the next four games very winnable we could easily be higher come October
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What had Grealish done to them? 4 or 5 different Hull players really went for him causing bad fouls that could've done him some serious damage. No need for it.
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Also, really happy with 7 out of 9 points. Can see us on 7 points come October.
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I like to think we'll spring a few surprises.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
If his name was Tom Smith he'd be playing in the lower reaches of The Championship or in League One
He was excellent in the Championship, so I don't think that is the case really.
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Looked better going forward today than in the first two games. Should have had at least two more goals; early on when Fab shot instead of squaring to Zog for a tap in and near the end when Bent should have sealed it.
Not impressed by Sanchez in the second half but hopefully he'll settle down.
Jack looked good again but he's gonna need shins of steel if he has to take that abuse every game.
Good to see Gabby looking up for it again, at least for the first half. Lambert seemed to signal that it was an injury that brought him off.
As well as taking the goal well, Andi's all round game was better. Some nice linking play and even long cross field passes to switch the direction of attack.
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Clattenberg should have gone up to the Hull captain after the second foul on Grealish and warned him the next intentional foul on Grealish would be a red. Pathetic really that PL players resorted to that against a kid
He did, Dawson was called over after one of the assaults.
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Looked better going forward today than in the first two games. Should have had at least two more goals; early on when Fab shot instead of squaring to Zog for a tap in and near the end when Bent should have sealed it.
Not impressed by Sanchez in the second half but hopefully he'll settle down.
Jack looked good again but he's gonna need shins of steel if he has to take that abuse every game.
Good to see Gabby looking up for it again, at least for the first half. Lambert seemed to signal that it was an injury that brought him off.
As well as taking the goal well, Andi's all round game was better. Some nice linking play and even long cross field passes to switch the direction of attack.
Him and Westwood are essentially the same player, so I don't think he is going to look too effective when paired with him.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
If his name was Tom Smith he'd be playing in the lower reaches of The Championship or in League One
He was excellent in the Championship, so I don't think that is the case really.
I thought the worst Hull player today was Huddlestone. No doubt he'll hit an inch perfect 60 yard pass next week and people will be saying he should be in the england squad.
Delph has more to his game than Thudd.
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What had Grealish done to them? 4 or 5 different Hull players really went for him causing bad fouls that could've done him some serious damage. No need for it.
The right back hacked Jack down within a minute of him coming on. Maybe each individual foul wasn't that bad but the Ref should have dealt more firmly with the obvious pattern and red carded the third bloke.
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Lots to be positive about
Great 1st half
2 goals
3 points
unbeaten in the league.
UTV
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Just home from the game. First half excellent second half too sloppy. Made it hard on ourselves. Sanchez disappointed me probably due to rustiness and not being up to EPL speed. Clattenberg is an arse. So many clearly incorrect calls and so wimpish about Grealish being hunted down.
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
If his name was Tom Smith he'd be playing in the lower reaches of The Championship or in League One
He was excellent in the Championship, so I don't think that is the case really.
I thought the worst Hull player today was Huddlestone. No doubt he'll hit an inch perfect 60 yard pass next week and people will be saying he should be in the england squad.
Delph has more to his game than Thudd.
Huddlestone hit a corner straight out and then kicked the ball into touch whilst in loads of space and then was subbed. Most amusing.
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Just home from the game. First half excellent second half too sloppy. Made it hard on ourselves. Sanchez disappointed me probably due to rustiness and not being up to EPL speed. Clattenberg is an arse. So many clearly incorrect calls and so wimpish about Grealish being hunted down.
Bugger me Brian, you don't hang about if your "Location" is as you say!
Agreed on Clattenberg - I thought he wimped out of a few decisions and running to get the ball for a Hull throw-in was hilarious!
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7 points from 3 games, without Benteke or Kozak, is a pretty good return in anyone's book. Having some decent players has made a difference. Who'd have thought it?
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Tom Ince did nothing to justify all the publicity he gets. Most overrated player since Wilshire.
If his name was Tom Smith he'd be playing in the lower reaches of The Championship or in League One
He was excellent in the Championship, so I don't think that is the case really.
I thought the worst Hull player today was Huddlestone. No doubt he'll hit an inch perfect 60 yard pass next week and people will be saying he should be in the england squad.
Delph has more to his game than Thudd.
Pressurise Huddlestone and his lack of mobility is badly exposed. Delph has outplayed him the few times we have played them. Didnt think Delph was all that today mind.
Livermore was completely anonymous until the last quarter. 8m for him seems mental money too.
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Their best player was that Brady that came on late. He almost changed the game in their favour.
I suppose that's what can happen when you're allowed to make a bunch of substitutions.
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Groans.
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I don't really live in Nice FMWMU. I started posting from there on holiday once and never bothered to change. Worth the 200 mile round trip today though, especially as I had the pleasure of watching the game with Damon's son.
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Groans.
Oh come on, it wasn't that bad a joke.
It resulted in a few smiles around me when I used the line during the game.
BTW, I'm glad that you went back to your own seat for the second half. Things got tense enough without you tempting fate by taking the spare seat next to Rob's daughter.
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I'm our new lucky charm.
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Good first half, when was the last time we were 2-0 up at half time at home?
While we sat back a little too much in the second half it still wasn't the total panic stations at the end, with much thanks to the Bruce's pub players breaking up the game taking lumps out of young Jack.
If we can get three point from the next five games we should be looking up the table instead of down...
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Good first half, when was the last time we were 2-0 up at half time at home?
Probably a Yanited game we went on to fuck up.
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To our stat men, we are unbeaten in three. And yes we sang Paul Lamberts claret and blue army. UTV. All gone quiet over here.
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We won!! We actually won! No more misery..The Villa won! No analysis No moaning.. Yee Haaaw!
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Good first half, when was the last time we were 2-0 up at half time at home?
Probably a Yanited game we went on to fuck up.
The 3 2-0 mess ups against manu I have witnessed were 1-0 HT.
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I don't know who that bloke was running around in Agbonlahors shirt today - but he looked quite useful. Wonder if we'll see him again?...
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I don't really live in Nice FMWMU. I started posting from there on holiday once and never bothered to change. Worth the 200 mile round trip today though, especially as I had the pleasure of watching the game with Damon's son.
Damn it Brian, you should have kept the myth going mate!
I've been imagining you typing your words of wisdom on a sun-drenched verandah, sipping a locally grown red and snacking on olives picked from the overhanging tree.
As the sun sets on the horizon, you shut your laptop down and stroll into your villa's enormous, marble-floored bedroom to sleep the sleep of the righteous.
Back streets of Bristol then?
We're THIRD y'know! :D
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First half was excellent. That's what I expect of us when we face sides like that at home. Hull were absolutely terrible, it has to be said.
Second half was disappointing. Lambert didn't know what to do when Bruce changed formation. Luckily they didn't threaten much.
The fact that they chose to hack Grealish down at every opportunity says it all. He really is quite talented, but we need to be patient with him.
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I don't know who that bloke was running around in Agbonlahors shirt today - but he looked quite useful. Wonder if we'll see him again?...
I think that he's a mate of the bloke who's wearing Hutton's shirt this season.
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I am also devastated by the news that Brian doesn't live in Nice. I thought that a certain TV star was paying for his father to have a comfortable retirement in the south of France.
I may never believe in anything ever again.
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Superb first half, crisp passing, one touch attacking football and two bloody good goals. Best half of football I've seen at Villa in ages. Second half we sat back too much, but who the hell cares.
Great result and third in the league. More of the same please, Villa!
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Third !!
And with the next four games very winnable we could easily be higher come October
Yes the ascent on the north face of Eiger starts with the Liverpool game and ends mancity at home. 4 points from those 4 games will do.
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I am also devastated by the news that Brian doesn't live in Nice. I thought that a certain TV star was paying for his father to have a comfortable retirement in the south of France.
I may never believe in anything ever again.
The only thing I believe in is life after love.
Just thought I'd Cher that with you.
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Hull were absolutely terrible, it has to be said.
I think there was a team there that made them terrible.
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I don't really live in Nice FMWMU. I started posting from there on holiday once and never bothered to change. Worth the 200 mile round trip today though, especially as I had the pleasure of watching the game with Damon's son.
Oh Brian and I always thought you did and had a lovely image of you following Villa from down there!
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Third and 5 points ahead of Everton and the Red Shite after 3 games! I'm easily pleased but I'd have taken that before the season started! 😉 And just savouring all the positivity on here tonight! Now time for some rum and cokes to celebrate. UTV!
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I am also devastated by the news that Brian doesn't live in Nice. I thought that a certain TV star was paying for his father to have a comfortable retirement in the south of France.
I may never believe in anything ever again.
The only thing I believe in is life after love.
Just thought I'd Cher that with you.
Thats bad right there
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One of the best first half displays I've seen down Villa park in quite a while, quick accurate passing, quick in the tackle breaking up play whenever Hull got on the ball, fair play to Gabby he was excellent, Senderos bossed the defence and really impressed me, sat back a bit 2nd half but they were always going to come at us but we held out more comfortably than in the last 2 seasons, what a happy day.
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First half i thought we were great. Second half, despite being 2-0 up, we really needed that third goal to kill the game off.
That was Gabby's best game for a while and bearing in mind we were likely to catch them on the break, i'm not sure why he was taken off. I thought Sanchez struggled a bit but that's going to happen at first i suppose and the tackles on Grealish in such a short space of time were a bit naughty. Thought Cissokho was great again as well.
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I am also devastated by the news that Brian doesn't live in Nice. I thought that a certain TV star was paying for his father to have a comfortable retirement in the south of France.
I may never believe in anything ever again.
The only thing I believe in is life after love.
Just thought I'd Cher that with you.
Thats bad right there
Sorry John, if I could turn back time, I'd change it all for you.
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If we had not scored those two goals then we would have lost that. Anyone trying to take positives is deluding themselves, it is only facts keeping us away from the relegation places.
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Any news on Vlaar? It looked like a calf strain to me.
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If we had not scored those two goals then we would have lost that. Anyone trying to take positives is deluding themselves, it is only facts keeping us away from the relegation places.
It's even worse than that. If we hadn't scored any goals this season and had conceded three in each game we'd be in real trouble now.
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Just rewatched the game and there was a close up of Lambert just after Vlaar went down injured. He looked so distraught I almost felt sorry for him.
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If we had not scored those two goals then we would have lost that. Anyone trying to take positives is deluding themselves, it is only facts keeping us away from the relegation places.
It's even worse than that. If we hadn't scored any goals this season and had conceded three in each game we'd be in real trouble now.
What if Hitler hadn't been defeated and the war had dragged on for another 37 years ?
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Any news on Vlaar? It looked like a calf strain to me.
Could be a month out then with his injury record. Not the worst time for an international break.
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Third !!
And with the next four games very winnable we could easily be higher come October
Can you give the next pre match team talk?
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Any news on Vlaar? It looked like a calf strain to me.
Could be a month out then with his injury record. Not the worst time for an international break.
Aslong as he doesn't injure himself further playing for Holland...
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http://footyroom.com/aston-villa-2-1-hull-city-2014-08/
highlights
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Just watching the match on sky. Some observations:
Most dominant home display I can remember in absolutely ages. Possibly since houllier
Haven't seen one long ball. Hopefully reflects a new direction. But would point out that a) the pressure on the ball from hull is appalling - they let us play; b) I wonder if we will have the discipline to play like that once benteke is back
Gabby and Weimann excellent.
Weimann taking corners?!?
Empty seats
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The next few games are big ones, the empty seats will be filled. Especially if we sign a couple of gems on deadline day.
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PS Westwood haters - is anyone disputing he's been excellent so far this season?
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PS Westwood haters - is anyone disputing he's been excellent so far this season?
Westwood haters? Really? Wouldn't it have made sense just to say that you think Westwood has been excellent so far?
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Gabby and Weimann were great the first half, our problems started when they ran out of legs and the pressure on their midfield dropped away. Best first half of football for years but we need a couple in.
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PS Westwood haters - is anyone disputing he's been excellent so far this season?
Westwood haters? Really? Wouldn't it have made sense just to say that you think Westwood has been excellent so far?
No. I'm particularly interested in the views of people who think he's fundamentally not premier league standard.
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PS Westwood haters - is anyone disputing he's been excellent so far this season?
Westwood haters? Really? Wouldn't it have made sense just to say that you think Westwood has been excellent so far?
No. I'm particularly interested in the views of people who think he's fundamentally not premier league standard.
Then why not ask that question rather than the childish "Westwood haters" comment?
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Apparently the last time we had a better start to the season was 1962.
Not bad going.
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Mr Bruce reckons today's defeat was "Probably worst I've seen us in my two years here."
Didn't he say something very similar when we beat them 3-1 last year?
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Mr Bruce reckons today's defeat was "Probably worst I've seen us in my two years here."
Didn't he say something very similar when we beat them 3-1 last year?
According to their message boards they always used to lose away at Brighton. Apparently they see us as their new Brighton.
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We played like the home team. Feels like years since I've seen that.
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Apparently the last time we had a better start to the season was 1962.
Not bad going.
We got 7 points from our first 3 games under MON did we not? And surely we had good starts under Gregory? Don't think that stat is correct.
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Apparently the last time we had a better start to the season was 1962.
Not bad going.
We got 7 points from our first 3 games under MON did we not? And surely we had good starts under Gregory? Don't think that stat is correct.
Better start. Which would be winning the first 3.
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It's correct because it's about better start not similar. However had ONLY 6 points!
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Sorry yes just put my glasses on!
As an aside Curtis Davies has done well since he left us but he seems to have developed the Gary Cahill syndrome of having complete and utter shockers when he returns to VP.
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They just showed the treatment of Grealish on MOTD2. Quite shocking how didn't anyone get sent off? Blokes career could've been ended before its started.
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Fair play to MOTD2 for their piece after the game highlights showing Hull's attempted assassination of young Jack. Great to see him smiling afterwards. And I still couldn't see any shin pads
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They just showed the treatment of Grealish on MOTD2. Quite shocking how didn't anyone get sent off?
None of them looked like offences deserving of a red card. A referee can't give a decision just because he is younger and weaker than lots of other players.
Great to see him getting game time though.
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No slagging of lambert today.
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Mr Bruce reckons today's defeat was "Probably worst I've seen us in my two years here."
Didn't he say something very similar when we beat them 3-1 last year?
Nope he was congratulating the filth because they stayed up.
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Fair play to MOTD2 for their piece after the game highlights showing Hull's attempted assassination of young Jack. Great to see him smiling afterwards. And I still couldn't see any shin pads
I would have liked them to have omitted Jack altogether and spent much more time debating and illustrating Arsenal's future line ups personally....
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Sorry yes just put my glasses on!
As an aside Curtis Davies has done well since he left us but he seems to have developed the Gary Cahill syndrome of having complete and utter shockers when he returns to VP.
Yep. Watching MOTD 2 reminded me of two further observations that I made earlier today. One was how badly Curtis Davies played (still surprised to see him taken off at HT unless he was injured) and the other one was how much weight Steve Bruce has put on. Now I accept that many of us might not be in a position to talk, but he is massive now.
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Third !!
And with the next four games very winnable we could easily be higher come October
Can you give the next pre match team talk?
Forget pre-match, it's the half time team talk where we have problems.
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They just showed the treatment of Grealish on MOTD2. Quite shocking how didn't anyone get sent off?
None of them looked like offences deserving of a red card. A referee can't give a decision just because he is younger and weaker than lots of other players.
Great to see him getting game time though.
They just showed the treatment of Grealish on MOTD2. Quite shocking how didn't anyone get sent off?
None of them looked like offences deserving of a red card. A referee can't give a decision just because he is younger and weaker than lots of other players.
Great to see him getting game time though.
They all happened in a really short space of time, it looked like an orchestrated effort to kick him out of the game. Reflects really well on him that he didn't allow himself to be intimidated. He's going to to be some player.
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Mr Bruce reckons today's defeat was "Probably worst I've seen us in my two years here."
Didn't he say something very similar when we beat them 3-1 last year?
Nope he was congratulating the filth because they stayed up.
He only said that because he couldn't bring himself to praise our performance.
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Just seen this on Twitter.
Jack Grealish's inevitable leg-break will hopefully be met with the contempt it deserves. Get some decent shin pads you show pony
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They just showed the treatment of Grealish on MOTD2. Quite shocking how didn't anyone get sent off?
None of them looked like offences deserving of a red card. A referee can't give a decision just because he is younger and weaker than lots of other players.
Great to see him getting game time though.
"game time"
*shudders*
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
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If you'd been offered 7 points from a possible 9 back in early August...
What a difference pressing the opposition makes. Enjoyed watching them today - save the frantic ending - especially during a fine first half. Gabby at his absolute best - think he's been short and confidence and lining up against Davies today I reckon he fancied his chances. Delph & Westwood both had very good games too.
Just sorting the defence makes such a difference - we look less rushed in possession and quite capable of winning a game by an odd goal whereas I'd never have backed us to do that last year. My only fear is the continuation of that trend depends very much on keeping that back four fit.
Nice to see team mates looking after Grealish too. Big talent, we need to look after him.
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
I rated him and thought he would be great for us. Looks like I was wrong (again), he was gash today.
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Att: 28,336. I think that's the lowest crowd for years.
15 home wins over something like 58 games...well 16 now.
Chairman of PL said the challenge in PL is keeping the games sold out to 95% on average.
Feels like we making up most of the missing 5%...
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I thought at the time that perhaps Grealish enjoys getting kicked, because he certainly doesn't run from it.
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I'm on my hols in Ibiza so it's only right that SOTC & I missed another win - we only saw 2 out of 7 last season.
There's talk from the folks who sit around us that we're going to be banned from going again this season!
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If Downing had been on the receiving end of just one if those tackles Jack Grealish got he would have been stretchered off and been out for a couple of months. What Clattenberg allowed to happen over not one but a clearly orchestrated series of heavy fouls on a young, special player is one of the factors why promising young superstars of the future fall by the wayside. They get targeted and they get no protection.
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Good win Villa, well played Gabby and Jack just keep on smiling at them, those fouls gave the whole defense a break when they needed it most.
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
A victim of far too much hype far too quickly, based on a couple of decent performances which were probably on MOTD. For which, see Andros Townsend and numerous others. Sterling will be the next
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
A victim of far too much hype far too quickly, based on a couple of decent performances which were probably on MOTD. For which, see Andros Townsend and numerous others. Sterling will be the next
Sterling won't be next because he's several classes above the two players you've mentioned there.
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
I didn't even realise he was on the pitch until he got subbed.
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If Downing had been on the receiving end of just one if those tackles Jack Grealish got he would have been stretchered off and been out for a couple of months. What Clattenberg allowed to happen over not one but a clearly orchestrated series of heavy fouls on a young, special player is one of the factors why promising young superstars of the future fall by the wayside. They get targeted and they get no protection.
I liked that he just kept getting back up. He didn't roll around or let himself be bullied, but got up and when he picked up the ball, he drove at the pub players and put fear into them.
It worked against Hull anyway. It broke up the play and it really wound up the crowd. I was doing my nut!
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
A victim of far too much hype far too quickly, based on a couple of decent performances which were probably on MOTD. For which, see Andros Townsend and numerous others. Sterling will be the next
Sterling won't be next because he's several classes above the two players you've mentioned there.
Indeed.
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
I didn't even realise he was on the pitch until he got subbed.
No I didnt either. I didnt notice Ron Vlaar in the first half Senderous appeared to be taking charge of everything. That is called accepting responsilbility. A very good sign.
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
I didn't even realise he was on the pitch until he got subbed.
I said exactly this at the time he got subbed....great win Villa keep it up !
UTV
The Doc
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I never really understood the hype surrounding Tom Ince even when he was average. Seeing him today in 'action' said it all really.
I didn't even realise he was on the pitch until he got subbed.
No I didnt either. I didnt notice Ron Vlaar in the first half Senderous appeared to be taking charge of everything. That is called accepting responsilbility. A very good sign.
Indeed. We've needed more players that will take the bull by the horns rather than take the easy options all the time. It comes when you sign players who by and large have played at the top end and in big games.
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A great feeling going into the inevitable useless international fannying around break. Well played lads. Gabby looked as good as I've seen him for 4 years and Weimann knocking in the goals is something I always love to see, really hope this form continues. Being realistic, 3-5 points from the next 5 games would do me just fine.
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We played like the home team. Feels like years since I've seen that.
are some of us forgetting Sunderland 6-2?
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The game that never was finished 6-1.
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If Downing had been on the receiving end of just one if those tackles Jack Grealish got he would have been stretchered off and been out for a couple of months. What Clattenberg allowed to happen over not one but a clearly orchestrated series of heavy fouls on a young, special player is one of the factors why promising young superstars of the future fall by the wayside. They get targeted and they get no protection.
Totally agree with these comments. Bruce should be ashamed of his players doing this to a young lad who'd only just come on. I'm sure he would have had plenty to say if it had been one of his team being targetted.
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I'm sure that the Villa players would have kicked Tom Ince if they'd realised that he was on the pitch.
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Excellent first half , should have been 4
Back to typical villa second half , it seemed Lambert was happy with a 2 0 which is always dangerous instead of going for the jugular and getting that third especially with the break now
But 7 points after three games is very good , that stoke game being a massive bonus
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Great first touch from weimann and coolly taken goal. Gabby's finish was top drawer.
Not sure what more Clattenburg xould do to be honest. Each foul on grealish that deserved a caution got it. he can't call the captainb over or tell Bruce to ask his players to stop. At least Grealish knows he's seen as a threat to prem teams. And it gave him the opportunity to hear his name being sung by the whole ground. Pain is transitory and I'll bet at that point he couldn't feel even the slightest scratch.
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Good performance, good finishing and mostly good defending. A very satisfying performance and result.
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We played like the home team. Feels like years since I've seen that.
are some of us forgetting Sunderland 6-2?
FEELS LIKE, and that result was what? 18 months ago now?
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Fouling jack worked in our favour
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Fouling jack worked in our favour
Yep, slowed the game up and broke up Hull's momentum.
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...and then Jack broke free to relieve the 'pressure' and passed it straight to one of their players and put us back under pressure. Enjoy the limelight but keep working hard young 'un.
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Fouling jack worked in our favour
Yep, slowed the game up and broke up Hull's momentum.
Kind of annoying when 5 minutes injury time came up though, mostly through the delays after Hull had fouled Grealish again and again.
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he can't call the captainb over or tell Bruce to ask his players to stop.
He did exactly that after the third assault. Individually, possibly none deserved a red, but cynicism should be taken into account. If we allow cloggers to just target any player with a bit of talent, we'll never develop enough players of that ilk.
Could Grealish have been injured? Were each of the 4 tackles deliberate? I don't think Bruce could have moaned had they ended the match with 10 men.
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he can't call the captainb over or tell Bruce to ask his players to stop.
He did exactly that after the third assault. Individually, possibly none deserved a red, but cynicism should be taken into account. If we allow cloggers to just target any player with a bit of talent, we'll never develop enough players of that ilk.
Could Grealish have been injured? Were each of the 4 tackles deliberate? I don't think Bruce could have moaned had they ended the match with 10 men.
Three yellows in eight minutes, they're luck he wasn't on for 1/2 an hour! They would have been down to 9 men by the end.
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...and then Jack broke free to relieve the 'pressure' and passed it straight to one of their players and put us back under pressure. Enjoy the limelight but keep working hard young 'un.
That's going to happen though, he'll make mistakes and hopefully he'll learn from them. He did well not to react to any of those tackles to be honest.
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I reckon he'll get us a few pens this season
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I was encouraged, for once, by Lambert's comments after the match. He commented on the good movement, sharp passing and positional interchanging (though he called it rotation). Last season there was very little evidence that these things were at the front of his mind, so this is cheering in itself.
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...and then Jack broke free to relieve the 'pressure' and passed it straight to one of their players and put us back under pressure. Enjoy the limelight but keep working hard young 'un.
Ha yes Peter that was true too .... at least something to be excited about
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he can't call the captainb over or tell Bruce to ask his players to stop.
He did exactly that after the third assault. Individually, possibly none deserved a red, but cynicism should be taken into account. If we allow cloggers to just target any player with a bit of talent, we'll never develop enough players of that ilk.
Could Grealish have been injured? Were each of the 4 tackles deliberate? I don't think Bruce could have moaned had they ended the match with 10 men.
i saw that but thought it more as a response to the reaction of our players and the crowd. just trying to stop things from boiling over but not actually satyin g 'stop'. And, of course, whether a team targets a player or not is nothing to with the referee. They uphold the laws of the game not dictate how a team plays.
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...and then Jack broke free to relieve the 'pressure' and passed it straight to one of their players and put us back under pressure. Enjoy the limelight but keep working hard young 'un.
That's going to happen though, he'll make mistakes and hopefully he'll learn from them. He did well not to react to any of those tackles to be honest.
He also made a great run which Delph ignored in shooting wide. On the basis that Jack had had four touches by that point and being clattered each time, it would have been interesting to see Hull's tactics with him inside the box.
Let's obviously factor in the implausible scenario of Clattenburg actually pointing to the spot for a Villa penalty, when discussing it.
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I think the reason Hull clattered Jack so much was because it was the only way they could get a closer look at that remarkable, slicked back hair, which seems to bounce up and down as he runs.
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Thought Clattenburg was okay and haven't seen anything to promote him to mark Halsey gobshitery level of incompetence. Clattenburg's my favourite ref.
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I think the reason Hull clattered Jack so much was because it was the only way they could get a closer look at that remarkable, slicked back hair, which seems to bounce up and down as he runs.
He looks a little like Fr.Dougal's mate. The Fop.
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I think the reason Hull clattered Jack so much was because it was the only way they could get a closer look at that remarkable, slicked back hair, which seems to bounce up and down as he runs.
He looks a little like Fr.Dougal's mate. The Fop.
Father Damien, I said the same a couple of weeks back.
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Best home performance well? Since the last one against Hull ;)
Pleased with about 1/4 of the performance. The football was good first half, the strikers looked good, and we kept the pace up. Even when we dropped off during the second half we still didn't look in too much danger until their goal came out of no where. We did get a little sloppy after that which is something we need to stop doing at home. But considering this is only the third league match and it was important to get the win points considering the run of matches we have I was really pleased.