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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on May 04, 2013, 04:53:22 PM
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Dave again.
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Still not there yet by any means, such a tough couple of last games.
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That team just grew up. Gabby was brilliant and I think he's earned the right to be called a Villa legend.
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The Angel Gabriel shone down upon us and lo, a new dawn begun in earnest.
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Gabby I love you, and I want to have your babies.
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Gabby is the the fuckin man!
We are staying up.
We are going to win trophies.
The sun is out!!!
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Never in doubt......
Can I unclench now?
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If I get through this season without having a heart attack it will be a bloody miracle.
Well done Villa, that was a marvellous result.
I must say, West Brom, you bunch of fucking wankers.
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Gabby I love you, and I want to have your babies.
this
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Fucking YES. Think we're safe now tbh. And Grant Holt is a cnut - that late miss couldn't have happened to a more deserving twat.
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Well done Villa. 40 points!
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Oh my god. So relieved! Toon and Sunderland in the shiiiiiit now, Delia's looking grim in the directors box and the Villa boys march on! 40 points! Brilliant from Gabs, and a supeeeeerb pass from Westwood! Now let's send fucking Wigan down on the final day!
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Not the best performance, but that Villa team ground out that win like a bunch of bastards. Gabby was immense after a shaky start. Our arses might well have been saved by a lad from Edington.
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Relegation Norwich?
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I am still shaking from that. Brilliant from Gabby, god knows who's going down now.
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I thought we screwed it all up with Bennett on the wrong side and Brad having a moment. Great play by Gabby today when Benteke was unusually quiet for him and gutted West Brom couldnt get the point against Wgan but its all about the Villa today.
A hard thought point against Chelsea now and I think that could be it.
Good job Lambo
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Blimey. It's tough being a Villa fan. Breeeeeath.
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I think we're safe, which means Wigan's win is a problem for teams below us. I'm okay with that. I'd die laughing of Newcastle dropped.
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Newcastle.....?
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Yeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssss!
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I'm sorry but never mind Gabby, the win today was down to me
I'm out varnishing the arbour in my front garden with my headphones on, we go in front and I nearly fall off my ladder celebrating. I come inside to celebrate on here and they equalise. I return to my varnishing and we score a late winner. It is clear where I need to spend the rest of the season...
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Well done villa- great time for gabby to deliver - sad that Albion let us down , lets hope they take something at Norwich next week.
Surely the teams below us can't all get a win from here ?
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The only dark spot was a Wigan win. Anything other then that and we would have definitely been safe. But at least the season is in out hands now and we have put other teams down there as well.
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Hard fought win today. Gabby stepped up to the plate today, brilliant!
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I just want the season to end now. Forget the last couple of matches.
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Excellent result! These young lads have grown so much in this second half of the season and can by rights call themselves Premiership players after a difficult roller coaster of a season...IF we stay up then this squad will go from strength to strength.
Wigan winning at Baggies keeps the relegation battle alive...but it could be someone else other than Wigan who actually face the drop now if they win their game in hand against Swansea on Tuesday.
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Thank God I had an exam this afternoon, sounds like the game was horrible
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Safe now IMO. Not a particularly good performance but in a way that shows how far the team have come. We can not playing well. We can also now come back from disappointing moments. Shout out to Gabby (obviously) and Delph. Bennett back to his awful worst. Weimann not great either really. Tekkers lucky not to have got a red.
Oh...and please never bring Holman on ever again Mr Lambert! Impact sub he is not!
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I don't think 40 points will be enough this season.
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Bennett needs a brain transplant. Sort that and he'll be a decent fullback. That said, we were mostly comfortable today until they drew level. Most of their play came from us giving away sloppy freekicks. They'll feel very hard done by. Draw would have been fair, and in all honesty, Bennett should have gone.
Gabby is back to his best. I bloody love him. I look forward to him celebrating his 100th goal. ;)
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We ain't out of it yet.....I'm still bloody nervous.
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That team just grew up. Gabby was brilliant and I think he's earned the right to be called a Villa legend.
Couldn't agree more.
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Still shaking like a shitting puppy after that.
Gabby is the fucking man.
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40 points and Sunderland, Newcastle, Norwich and Wigan all below us. It will take an incredible set of results for us to go now.
Great commitment shown, and a brilliant effort from the Gabbster.
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I don't think 40 points will be enough this season.
It could be yet, but the risk is absolutely not worth contemplating. We're counting on draws now, I think.
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We're not safe until we're safe. We need to keep on going against Chelsea.
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13th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't think 40 points will be enough this season.
Possibly not. Depends what happens with Wigan's game in hand. If they lose, I think that's all she wrote. I suspect 18th place will be 39-40 points. So another point or two should do it for us.
I reckon Norwich, Sunderland and Wigan are in the most shite. Think we've just about made it.
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Yes but big step forward today. It 's in our hands. Just hope the Jacks do us a favour on Wed.
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13th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
14th unless Spurs win.
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We seem to get battered by Chelsea one game then the next 3 or 4 we play against them we do well. But...I got a feeling they will beat us and they way Wigan always are I think they will win at their place so this could be it for us. Now hope and prey on the Norwich, Newcastle and Sunderland to lose all their games
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Gabby you fucking beauty!!!!
Special mention to Delph who was excellent today. Joe Bennett will be a relieved man...
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Oh thank god for that I checked the top of the bbc site and it said 1-1 and Wigan had won! We desperately needed those 3 points well done villa!
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Why wont Wigan just die? Anyway great job Villa today!
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That was a real wake up call and it just shows we have work to do in the summer. We struggled physically I thought with them and our touch was sloppy most of the game. But Gabby was a menace all game and has saved our asses big time.
I'm afraid that 40 isn't enough and I think we'll need one more point. Not easy when you consider our next two games.
That said, there's every chance one of Sunderland, Newcastle or Norwich don't pick up any more points.
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Step forward Lord Gabby and be annointed before the Holte End as a Living Villa Legend
Join the serried ranks of yore you fucking beauty!
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The only dark spot was a Wigan win. Anything other then that and we would have definitely been safe. But at least the season is in out hands now and we have put other teams down there as well.
Season may be in our hands but its Chelsea at home and Wigan away! I dont fancy us getting anything out of Chelsea and anything could happen against Wigan!
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Yep - following on from that earlier post, Gabs definitely has earned the 'Club legend' badge. One of us, and those goals he scored today may be the most important he's scored, not only in this season's battle, but also for securing the future of the club for the next couple of years at least.
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Games like this only help to build character. We've added another few inches to our collective ballsack with this result.
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3 pts off 9th. Never know.
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I really hate Martinez and Wigan
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We are not safe and the Baggies let us down. Bennet needs a good talking to he should have been sent off.
With Wigan winning that was probably Gabbys most important performance for the club.
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As I said before, this is surely Gabby's best form since the 08/09 season?
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We're not safe until we're safe. We need to keep on going against Chelsea.
Good result today - doesn't matter what happened during the game; we won!
WHU went down with 42 points a few seasons' ago. We will be very motivated against Chelsea next week so here's hoping we can get another home victory to secure our future.
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god I felt sick after the penalty, thought we'd ballsed it up, but thankfully gabby came to our rescue! 40 points now, don't think we can quite call ourselves safe, but we're nudging towards it. UTV
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Sunderland and Newcastle (and Norwich) will be bricking it. Imagine if we had got a point v Newcastle at home...we'd be five points ahead of them with two to play....
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Norwich will have to beat West Brom next week really. I don't really see the Boggies losing two on the spin. So I think that'll be a draw at best for Norwich and thus no chance for them to overtake us with Citeh away their final game.
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We're not safe until we're safe. We need to keep on going against Chelsea.
Good result today - doesn't matter what happened during the game; we won!
WHU went down with 42 points a few seasons' ago. We will be very motivated against Chelsea next week so here's hoping we can get another home victory to secure our future.
I can't see Vlaar, Bennett and co. coping with Chelsea. I can only see another battering unfortunately.
We're not safe until we're safe. We need to keep on going against Chelsea.
Good result today - doesn't matter what happened during the game; we won!
WHU went down with 42 points a few seasons' ago. We will be very motivated against Chelsea next week so here's hoping we can get another home victory to secure our future.
3 pts off 9th. Never know
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That bloody goal diff / Chelsea result. Otherwise much beer.
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Hoping Spurs get a late winner to drag Southampton into it
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Worth staying up until the wee small hours.
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I really hate Martinez and Wigan
Much rather them in the league then Norwich, Newcastle or Sunderland.
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The boggies have gone, they are on the beach, they don't care anymore.
I bet they don't get another point this season.
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I'm really bitter that having won a game in the last minute, with Gabby scoring two, and reached 40 points, I'm still not as happy as I should be.
I'm just convinced that Wigan will beat Swansea in the week and I'll be right back in panic mode.
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The boggies have gone, they are on the beach, they don't care anymore.
I bet they don't get another point this season.
People said that before they raped Soton.
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A Spurs win and I'd say we're safe, there would be plenty below us then.
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Wonder how many on the Blues bus to Wigan?
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I'm looking at the table and the teams around us fixtures. I have no idea what's going to happen at all. I think it's crazy that were sat on 40 points and could still go down. The way I see it is Wigan win midweek and are 2 points behind us and the other two are only 3 behind us with 2 games left.
Why oh why couldn't the tesco bags have got a result today
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Looking again, we're level with Fulham and they're not worried about relegation.
I think we'll be mathematically safe going to Wigan but may end up close to the drop anyway.
Our form the last few months has been top-middle table.
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Thank fuck for that, nearly there. Could be more tears in the Geordie nation in 2 weeks
ha ha. UTV!!!!!!
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spurs winner
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the first time i have ever celebrated Gareth Bale
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I watched sky sports Saturday today, with the championship story unfolding. The twists and turns were just bloody horrible, with 3 or 4 teams dropping into the relegation spots over the course of the afternoon.
I do not want us to be any way involved in anything like that in 2 weeks time.
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the first time i have ever celebrated Gareth Bale
Didn't bother when they played Wigan?
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Delph and Westwood were magnificent today. Gabby was just playing on another level to everyone else on the pitch. Weimann and Benteke had poor games, Andi especially. But he always gets in positions to score and as long as he does that the goals will inevitably come.
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I'm sorry but never mind Gabby, the win today was down to me
I'm out varnishing the arbour in my front garden with my headphones on, we go in front and I nearly fall off my ladder celebrating. I come inside to celebrate on here and they equalise. I return to my varnishing and we score a late winner. It is clear where I need to spend the rest of the season...
Excuse me. I spent the afternoon cleaning the Upvc on the front door while finishing off a box of Aldi Brasserie beer. It's all down to me!
Perhaps I'm just a bit pissed but the Sky Sports pundits seemed to be really please we won.
Looking forward to MOTD tonight as it sounds like Gabby was awesome. Soton now in the mix too.
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Step forward Lord Gabby and be annointed before the Holte End as a Living Villa Legend
Join the serried ranks of yore you fucking beauty!
Said it ages ago, the guy is a VILLA LEGEND, does it when it really matters, loves the Villa, could never see him play for anyone else. He's been the difference the last 2-3 months. Gabby WE LOVE YOU.
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That Spurs goal helps us out a lot...
Great result, to massive wins in a few days. If we'd have picked up 4 points against Southampton over the season instead of them getting 6 off us how different would the league table look?
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the first time i have ever celebrated Gareth Bale
Didn't bother when they played Wigan?
haha. Second time.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
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To be expected from the Olbiyun.
Hope the smalltime nobodies regain their rightful place in the lower reaches next year, pathetic bunch of bastards.
One point from the next two should do it.
Are Soton and Fulham back in the mix? They won't be sleeping easy tonight either.
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Are Soton and Fulham back in the mix? They won't be sleeping easy tonight either.
We're level on points with Fulham and as it stands, Soton are below us.
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If Wigan beat Swansea on Tuesday, then everybody up to Fulham is bricking it.
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Gabby easily and by far our best player today, of course, but I think some credit is due to Lichaj, who did a really solid job when he came on. He seemed to pretty much stop their attacking down their left hand side dead. Good lad.
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Earlier in the season we'd have gone on to lose this so it speaks volumes about how far we've come.
Are we out of trouble....fucked if I know :-\ but I think we'll get something out of next weeks game and at Wigan.
Ok, just need to let my pulse return to something like normal then its beer and food (or maybe more beer)
UTV
Actually just looked at the remaining fixtures and Sunderland have to play Soton and Stoke so whichever way these go will help us and keep a team in the mix with Wigan.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
Sorry but Albion are fucking wankers for throwing that away. Watch them lose next week too! Bastards. They are going to relegate us without even fucking playing us.
I am furious with them!
Fair play to Villa though. Face of adversity, again they came up trumps.
Bennett had a real shocker, but Norwich played him very cleverly and Hughton clearly had a game plan to get as tight as possible on him with or without the ball.
Benteke must have had close on his worst 90 minutes for us. Bassong talked him out of it today I am convinced. In his ear all game.
Weimann was anonymous.
But thankfully, thankfully, Delph, Westwood and Gabby were awake. Delph I thought was class all game, and Gabby took the goals brilliantly.
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Well done lads another three points towards safety thank you Gabby brilliant performance today.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Newcastle have a tough last couple, QPR away, which will depend upon whether QPR bother turning up but they have no pressure on them at all, like Reading today who had probably their best result of the season and then they are home to Arsenal.
I'd rather be where we are than any of the teams below us going into the last two.
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It's still going to go down to final day! You will find me at the bottom of a bottle in The week leading up to that game
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I think we'll get at least a point against Chelsea, mainly because of their run of games. Not nervous at all now.
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We've won all our six pointers so far this season. Incredible stuff, really.
We might need to extend that run against Whelan's Wankers.
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I think we'll get at least a point against Chelsea, mainly because of their run of games. Not nervous at all now.
I am.
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Looks like we're saving the overdue clean sheet until next week.
We didn't play well but won. Sign of a good team. On the balance of good chances created we just about deserved it too.
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We've won all our six pointers so far this season. Incredible stuff, really.
We might need to extend that run against Whelan's Wankers.
Except for the one that, in the long run, may matter the most: the 3-0 home defeat to Wigan. If we'd even drawn that we'd be safe by now.
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Not seen anything as been out all day, thanks to Sox Sports News for keeping me updated all day, even if it did nearly kill me and aged me 10 years! I'm pretty sure the fine folks of Halesowen will be wondering why someone started swearing at their phone in Asda and then spent 10 minutes singing "I believe in the Villa" under their breath as they shopped.
UTV Keep the Faith.
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Wigan might have won today but they've got 4 games in a week and a half (including today's) before they play us, with Arsenal being the last one.
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We've won all our six pointers so far this season. Incredible stuff, really.
We might need to extend that run against Whelan's Wankers.
Except for the three successive home games of Wigan, Soton and Newcastle.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
Sorry but Albion are fucking wankers for throwing that away. Watch them lose next week too! Bastards. They are going to relegate us without even fucking playing us.
I am furious with them!
Fair play to Villa though. Face of adversity, again they came up trumps.
Bennett had a real shocker, but Norwich played him very cleverly and Hughton clearly had a game plan to get as tight as possible on him with or without the ball.
Benteke must have had close on his worst 90 minutes for us. Bassong talked him out of it today I am convinced. In his ear all game.
Weimann was anonymous.
But thankfully, thankfully, Delph, Westwood and Gabby were awake. Delph I thought was class all game, and Gabby took the goals brilliantly.
What do you mean Amzingly!!?? Don't you ever agree with me? ;-)
I think now we are seeing why we actually bought Fabian. I feel for him with the injuries he had since joining but he has been really good in what he does the second half of this season.
Like I said earlier on during the game I would of liked to see Westwood further up the pitch. He has that pass on him.
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I really hate Martinez and Wigan
Much rather them in the league then Norwich, Newcastle or Sunderland.
Total agree, I think Martinez has done a fantastic job!
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I suppose there's no exact science to it, but people generally only talk about six pointers past March.
The damage can be done earlier, of course. But the table really only starts to shape up in the final streches. A win against sides in and around you in December might have absolutely no bearing come April/ May, as the table can look completely different.
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C'mon. Look at it. We are safe. Have a pint. :|
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We've won all our six pointers since February. Incredible stuff, really.
We might need to extend that run against Whelan's Wankers.
Made a small change to your post.
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We're not safe yet but we've given ourselves a good chance of staying up and we're one of the few teams down there showing good form. Unfortunately Wigan are probably the other one. That last minute goal from Gabby changed everything. I dread to think what it would've been like if we'd drawn or lost that game.
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We've dropped countless* points from winning positions and/or late goals conceded. With a better defence or a bit of luck, we'd have another 9 or 10 points.
*I haven't counted them
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Ill take two wins but I think just one more draw could by the smallest margins be good enough. Shame about Michu being injured so looks like he's out of the Wigan game but happy about Wigan still having to play Arsenal and being in the cup final.
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Step forward Lord Gabby and be annointed before the Holte End as a Living Villa Legend
Join the serried ranks of yore you fucking beauty!
Said it ages ago, the guy is a VILLA LEGEND, does it when it really matters, loves the Villa, could never see him play for anyone else. He's been the difference the last 2-3 months. Gabby WE LOVE YOU.
There was a thread last year about his status - people argued that he had never won anything so was not a "Legend"
Well I am autocratically bestowing that title and sod the lot of the nay-sayers ;-)
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Step forward Lord Gabby and be annointed before the Holte End as a Living Villa Legend
Join the serried ranks of yore you fucking beauty!
Said it ages ago, the guy is a VILLA LEGEND, does it when it really matters, loves the Villa, could never see him play for anyone else. He's been the difference the last 2-3 months. Gabby WE LOVE YOU.
There was a thread last year about his status - people argued that he had never won anything so was not a "Legend"
Well I am autocratically bestowing that title and sod the lot of the nay-sayers ;-)
Most definitely!:)
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Wonder if Luke Moore might do us a favour in midweek
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3 points off Swansea in 9th place and could be 2 points off 18th on Tuesday - really tense end to the season .
Who would believe with 2 games left we could either finish top 10 or go down?
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3 points off Swansea in 9th place and could be 2 points off 18th on Tuesday - really tense end to the season .
Who would believe with 2 games left we could either finish top 10 or go down?
Hopefully we will be 6 points behind Swansea by the end of Tuesday.
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3 things, Beausajour was stretchered off today. He won't die and will still get about £10,000 per week if anyone feels sorry for him. Secondly Newcastle must beat qpr in their last home in the 1st division because I don't think they will beat Arsenal and thirdly Swansea started showing a bit of form today before they go to wigan (0-0 v man city)
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I must say, West Brom, you bunch of fucking wankers.
This.
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As I said before, this is surely Gabby's best form since the 08/09 season?
Why not 09/10?
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The boggies have gone, they are on the beach, they don't care anymore.
Not true, they battled their arses off today. Even their goalie, Foster came up for a late corner. Defensive failings fucked them up, their players are professionals and Steve Clarke certainly is. They're just fuckers for not holding on.
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We are 40-1 to get relegated with bet365.
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Bit of a smash and grab effort this one. Thought Norwich played pretty well with Howson the stand out player in midfield. But they were pretty toothless up front, Holt was crashing into all and sundry but he has looked lost at this level this season. Pilkington only coming back from injury faded too. We started with the wrong attitude, touch of billy big bollocks after the Sunderland result on Monday I suspect. Norwich ultimately didnt have the quality to make it count but we were indebted to a freakishly outstanding second half performance from Gabby and the ref failing to send off two of our players for the three points. Ref thankfully for us seem to bottle both red card decisions, Benteke's one was a no brainer.
With the players we have up front, we will always create chances out of nothing. Gabby's first goal was a cracker too, took it up on the half way line, broke forward and curled it in nicely. He was on fire in the second half, creating a sitter of a chance for Weimann with a brilliant counter attack and cross. Very unlucky to see a left footed effort creep past the post after a lovely one two with Benteke. Then the brilliant finish for the winner and likely keeping us in the league for another year.
For my sins back in January, I suggested we trade Gabby for Craig Gardner as it was clear only MON might get his career back on track......
If we look back, I think that home game against Newcastle when Gabby and Weimann came on at half time and we played the 3 up front, was the start of our revival. 18 points from 36 since and have beaten the sides around us in that time.
Better sides than Norwich would have made us pay for such of the efforts at defending today. Baker for me is nowhere near good enough. Spends half his time on his arse and the other half hoofing the ball. Yet he is still looking better than Vlaar. His efforts to defend a standard hoof midway through the second half were excruciating. Captain my arse.
Guzan hadnt much to do today but nearly handed them a point at the end. He really needs to work on his kicking over the summer. Bennett's first yellow card was utter stupidity, he followed this up with a brain freeze foul on Snodgrass on the edge of the box just after. Then just when Norwich really started to look out of ideas, he fucked up spectacularly for the penalty. I'm not buying the whole its just a young player being naive excuse either, Bennett has done this consistently over the season and even during the game today. For me he abdicates responsibility. Today that should have cost us a red card and potentially the game. Lichaj might have played his last game for the club but fair play to him today. His first appearance in a long while and was very solid defensively I thought. Doesnt have much ability on the ball but kept it nice and tidy.
Last minute assist aside, Westwood to me showed how far he still has to go to be a top midfielder. His lack of presence without the ball really hurts us at times. His passing and play were very passive too until late on. This was in contrast with Delph who was excellent today again. Won tackles, ran with the ball well, passed well. He is well able to get away from players, just a pity he gets a brain fart when in good positions near goal. Sylla looked a little lost in midfield. Not sure what to make of him as a player. Benteke was very poor today and like Bennett could have cost us big time with his hand in the neck of Bassong who thankfully didnt overreact. Second half against Sunderland aside, his form hasnt been great for a while. His touch and movement today were very poor. Weimann wasnt in the game much. At least he got in the position for that counterattack. Not sure how he missed, might have been better advised diving with his head for it. The fuck up at the end was terrible. Gabby's second half as mentioned previously was outstanding. Holman........ oh dear.
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Thought Bennett was at his most infuriating today. He gave a stupid free kick away on the edge of the box in the first half, and prior to the penalty he was 4 or 5 yards behind our back line playing their player on side which led directly to the pen. He could have got sent off and could have cost us the points - he's got a lot to learn. Oh, and the commentator got on my nerves today saying how our young defence was being taught a lesson in being roughed up by Holt. I don't call deliberately raking studs down a defenders legs as 'roughing up' - I call it sneaky and dirty.
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Didn't Mark Bright say something on Final Score along the lines of like, "Gabby should be doing better, I think this is the first time he has hit double figures"....yea, ok Closet boy.
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I'm still not relaxing, despite the fantastic result. We could finish on 40 points easily. And if we do Wigan will finish above us. Surely they'll beat Swansea and then they must have a decent chance of beating us.
The best thing is the number of other clubs between us and them. If Sunderland fail to beat stoke on Monday they'll really be in the shit. Newcastle I think will beat QPR though.
Norwich's next game v WBA, Sunderland's next two and Newcastle at QPR will probably determine if we need a result on the last day.
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We are 40-1 to get relegated with bet365.
Worth a tenner.
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Bit of a smash and grab effort this one. Thought Norwich played pretty well with Howson the stand out player in midfield. But they were pretty toothless up front, Holt was crashing into all and sundry but he has looked lost at this level this season. Pilkington only coming back from injury faded too. We started with the wrong attitude, touch of billy big bollocks after the Sunderland result on Monday I suspect. Norwich ultimately didnt have the quality to make it count but we were indebted to a freakishly outstanding second half performance from Gabby and the ref failing to send off two of our players for the three points. Ref thankfully for us seem to bottle both red card decisions, Benteke's one was a no brainer.
With the players we have up front, we will always create chances out of nothing. Gabby's first goal was a cracker too, took it up on the half way line, broke forward and curled it in nicely. He was on fire in the second half, creating a sitter of a chance for Weimann with a brilliant counter attack and cross. Very unlucky to see a left footed effort creep past the post after a lovely one two with Benteke. Then the brilliant finish for the winner and likely keeping us in the league for another year.
For my sins back in January, I suggested we trade Gabby for Craig Gardner as it was clear only MON might get his career back on track......
If we look back, I think that home game against Newcastle when Gabby and Weimann came on at half time and we played the 3 up front, was the start of our revival. 18 points from 36 since and have beaten the sides around us in that time.
Better sides than Norwich would have made us pay for such of the efforts at defending today. Baker for me is nowhere near good enough. Spends half his time on his arse and the other half hoofing the ball. Yet he is still looking better than Vlaar. His efforts to defend a standard hoof midway through the second half were excruciating. Captain my arse.
Guzan hadnt much to do today but nearly handed them a point at the end. He really needs to work on his kicking over the summer. Bennett's first yellow card was utter stupidity, he followed this up with a brain freeze foul on Snodgrass on the edge of the box just after. Then just when Norwich really started to look out of ideas, he fucked up spectacularly for the penalty. I'm not buying the whole its just a young player being naive excuse either, Bennett has done this consistently over the season and even during the game today. For me he abdicates responsibility. Today that should have cost us a red card and potentially the game. Lichaj might have played his last game for the club but fair play to him today. His first appearance in a long while and was very solid defensively I thought. Doesnt have much ability on the ball but kept it nice and tidy.
Last minute assist aside, Westwood to me showed how far he still has to go to be a top midfielder. His lack of presence without the ball really hurts us at times. His passing and play were very passive too until late on. This was in contrast with Delph who was excellent today again. Won tackles, ran with the ball well, passed well. He is well able to get away from players, just a pity he gets a brain fart when in good positions near goal. Sylla looked a little lost in midfield. Not sure what to make of him as a player. Benteke was very poor today and like Bennett could have cost us big time with his hand in the neck of Bassong who thankfully didnt overreact. Second half against Sunderland aside, his form hasnt been great for a while. His touch and movement today were very poor. Weimann wasnt in the game much. At least he got in the position for that counterattack. Not sure how he missed, might have been better advised diving with his head for it. The fuck up at the end was terrible. Gabby's second half as mentioned previously was outstanding. Holman........ oh dear.
I think I agree with every word...apart from the trade off
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Gabby I love you, and I want to have your babies.
this
Join the queue with half the ladies of Birmingham.
Today was one of the first occasions I have missed a game but I was watching for the winner and my word, what massive relief. The Wigan result makes that goal absolutely huge. It could easily still go down to us needing something from Wigan but we have done unbelievably well to put 5 teams between us and the relegation zone. You have to hope that one of them will fail to win either of their last two games which should be enough to keep us up, even if Wigan continue with their mental escape act again. It would be great if we did it by beating Chelsea and I don't see why we can't. It was a close game last time.
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Lulz.
And Gabby is a proven baby-maker so don't worry, there's plenty to go round. You might have to metamorpohose into seahorses to give birth as males though.
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I'm out varnishing the arbour in my front garden with my headphones on, we go in front and I nearly fall off my ladder celebrating. I come inside to celebrate on here and they equalise. I return to my varnishing and we score a late winner. It is clear where I need to spend the rest of the season...
Oo-er missus.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
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A pressure game when the only thing that mattered was the result. The team fought collectively to win that match.
Norwich had a lot of possession but did nothing with it. They continually over hit crosses and did Brad have a save to make, other than the penalty.
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Lulz.
And Gabby is a proven baby-maker so don't worry, there's plenty to go round. You might have to metamorpohose into seahorses to give birth as males though.
I'm happy to give it a go.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
That's the spirit.
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Lulz.
And Gabby is a proven baby-maker so don't worry, there's plenty to go round. You might have to metamorpohose into seahorses to give birth as males though.
I'm happy to give it a go.
Let me get this right Gibbon man... you want to transform into a seahorse, and be inseminated by Gabby, followed by giving birth to his freaky, sea horse, gibbon, gabby children?!
Wow. Just... erm.... wow.
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Last minute assist aside, Westwood to me showed how far he still has to go to be a top midfielder. His lack of presence without the ball really hurts us at times. His passing and play were very passive too until late on. This was in contrast with Delph who was excellent today again. Won tackles, ran with the ball well, passed well. He is well able to get away from players, just a pity he gets a brain fart when in good positions near goal.
Quite right. Never quite understood the plaudits aimed at Westwood while Delph seems to attract crititism.
Surprisingly, there's not a lot to separate them, experience wise.
They are both 23 years old. Westwood has 29 appearances while Delph has 48 (taken fron Wiki).
For me Fabian would be first choice of the two all day long.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
If I was a Norwich fan I would be very worried
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
Really? Even though we have just gained points on Norwich, Fulham, Saints, Newcastle and one of either Stoke or Sunderland..and kept the gap the same with Wigan the same with one game chalked off.
There are no banker games right now, just ask Fulham....
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
No such thing as a banker game in this league. People are also assuming we'll get nothing fron Chelsea. I'm not so sure. They play Man Utd and Spurs before meeting us. Two very tough games before they play a rested Villa, all in 6 days. Tough ask for any team.
I like our odds.
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Fair comment? Didn't see the game but I find Hughton (NOT H
oughton!) one of the more dignified managers, perhaps he has a point:
Norwich City manager Chris Hughton:
"I'm annoyed and frustrated because there was no way we should have lost or deserved to lose. We were the better side over 90 minutes but Villa have pace on the counter-attack and we have conceded two poor goals today.
"Joe Bennett shouldn't have been on the park - he was on a yellow card when he conceded the penalty and had two or three fouls after that. I find it incredible that he was still on the park.
"Next week's game against West Brom becomes a bigger game. We will need a better performance but we can't concede the goals we conceded today and expect to win football matches.
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I hope you are right... I think I thought we would do it if we won today, and be there. To not be has me very worried still Maz.
I thought Delph, apart from Gabby, was our best player by a country mile, but Westwood is very understated in what he does. He reads the game well, and just gets the ball in places where if he did not we would be in big trouble on the pitch. His ball for Gabby was class. That is the difference with him and Delph, both are great, but Westwood has tonnes more composure on and off the ball, so does not need to look like action man and still be effective.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
No such thing as a banker game in this league. People are also assuming we'll get nothing fron Chelsea. I'm not so sure. They play Man Utd and Spurs before meeting us. Two very tough games before they play a rested Villa, all in 6 days. Tough ask for any team.
I like our odds.
Good point Id forgotten about that, Plus the Europa cup final on Wednesday after our game. As much as its not such a big Trophy they will still be busting a gut to win it and they may hopefully lose a bit of focus against us.
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I feel surprisingly a bit subdued tonight , I felt a win today would do it for sure but wigans win has left a nasty taste.
I'm hoping Norwich dont beat WBA and Newcastle don't beat qpr next week - its still incredibly tight down there and if wigan beat Swansea it puts us probably 2 points off the drop zone .
A draw with Chelsea would surely see us home and dry , but I fully expect sunderland and wigan to win in midweek- would take vitrtually everything to go against us and a freak set of results to send us down.
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And our last game of the season too. I never ever assume we'll lose to a bunch of shits like Chelsea. The day I do is the day I give up football. This is Aston Villa we are talking about. For all their trophies, they will always be a bunch of nobodies to me
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Fair comment? Didn't see the game but I find Hughton (NOT Houghton!) one of the more dignified managers, perhaps he has a point:
Norwich City manager Chris Hughton:
"I'm annoyed and frustrated because there was no way we should have lost or deserved to lose. We were the better side over 90 minutes but Villa have pace on the counter-attack and we have conceded two poor goals today.
"Joe Bennett shouldn't have been on the park - he was on a yellow card when he conceded the penalty and had two or three fouls after that. I find it incredible that he was still on the park.
"Next week's game against West Brom becomes a bigger game. We will need a better performance but we can't concede the goals we conceded today and expect to win football matches.
They should have been 4 down by the time penalty was awarded, so there is not a chance in hell they were the better team, that is said to appease the fans who chanted you don't know what your doing at him through the second half.
As for Bennett, he should have been sent off, for certain. I also think there was a clear and concise tactic from Hughton to the players to try and get Bennett sent off.
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Managers under pressure talk bollocks. It's the law.
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All we can do is win the games in front of us, who would not have taken 6 points from our last 2 games a week ago, plus a scored 8 against 2 goal dif, for fuck sake man up grow a pair, give these lads some credit, and at times this season I have given Gab some shit, I am glad you are wearing claret and blue thats for sure.
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It's incredibly tight down there.
Just the way I like it
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
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John agree 100% for some reason some fuckers on here want us to go down, come on Villa keep the form going watch those around us implode and we go again in the Prem next season
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All we can do is win the games in front of us, who would not have taken 6 points from our last 2 games a week ago, plus a scored 8 against 2 goal dif, for fuck sake man up grow a pair, give these lads some credit, and at times this season I have given Gab some shit, I am glad you are wearing claret and blue thats for sure.
Well said. Forget what Wigan are doing. Six points and turning round the goal difference in five days. Anyone knocking that in any way is mad.
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It's incredibly tight down there.
Just the way I like it
Swiss Tony (or Toni?).
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Maybe Bennett should've gone, Holt's thuggishness went predictably unpunished today, and that was a disgrace. There's no point in having rules in the game if one player is allowed to flout them so brazenly with his sharp studs and sharper elbows, for the sole apparent reason of being popular with the web-handed onlookers.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
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All we can do is win the games in front of us, who would not have taken 6 points from our last 2 games a week ago, plus a scored 8 against 2 goal dif, for fuck sake man up grow a pair, give these lads some credit, and at times this season I have given Gab some shit, I am glad you are wearing claret and blue thats for sure.
Well said. Forget what Wigan are doing. Six points and turning round the goal difference in five days. Anyone knocking that in any way is mad.
No one has knocked it, we are all ecstatic with how much heart and battle Villa have shown!
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Lovely to win today and no complaints (with the front three and Westwood in particular), but Jesus - we could really do with a bit of experience back there.
Phil Neville would be a great signing to sit in front of the back four, stick him on the left side of the holding duo and it'd help Bennett out no-end. Bennett and Delph both carded again today. Delph has improved recently but he's a yellow card waiting to happen.
I quite like Baker and Lambert seems to really rate Clark but I'd like some of the wages that Dunne and Hutton free up to go towards a more experienced centre-half.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
More worried John!!! Not more likely. That is still the same as it was this AM.
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Lulz.
And Gabby is a proven baby-maker so don't worry, there's plenty to go round. You might have to metamorpohose into seahorses to give birth as males though.
I'm happy to give it a go.
Let me get this right Gibbon man... you want to transform into a seahorse, and be inseminated by Gabby, followed by giving birth to his freaky, sea horse, gibbon, gabby children?!
Wow. Just... erm.... wow.
That's the plan, yes. One or two points to sort out but I am confident we can make it happen.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
So we actually got three points today, Newcastle got 1, Southampton 0, Fulham 0, Norwcih 0. So can you actually explain how we are in just as big trouble as we were at 3pm? Not that I think we are totally safe yet, but no way are we still the favourites to go down. Wish I had put a tenner on Norwich at 25/1 a couple of weeksago
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
More worried John!!! Not more likely. That is still the same as it was this AM.
Worried / likely infers the same to me.
Also, it's not the same as it was this morning is it, unless I've been dreaming. It's not just between us and Wigan.
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The maths say otherwise but I reckon that's us safe. There are some teams below us now with absolutely no form or momentum, all of whom will be very nervous indeed.
All of whom have a bit of a banker game to come.
We are in just as big trouble as we were at 3.
So we actually got three points today, Newcastle got 1, Southampton 0, Fulham 0, Norwcih 0. So can you actually explain how we are in just as big trouble as we were at 3pm? Not that I think we are totally safe yet, but no way are we still the favourites to go down. Wish I had put a tenner on Norwich at 25/1 a couple of weeksago
Are we, or are we not still exactly the same distance from the relegation zone as we were at the start of play? They have a game in hand , and we go to their place. In between we both have a fixture we are most likely to lose. As such, the situation is just the same as it was this morning. The other clubs, at this moment are less relevant than the points, although it is nice to have dragged them in, they each have an easier fixture, and don't have to go to the side that are able to overturn them on the last day like we do.
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Maybe Bennett should've gone, Holt's thuggishness went predictably unpunished today, and that was a disgrace. There's no point in having rules in the game if one player is allowed to flout them so brazenly with his sharp studs and sharper elbows, for the sole apparent reason of being popular with the web-handed onlookers.
Holt is like Kevin Davies was for years at Bolton. Gets away with lots of fouls when you would hope the ref would at least book him on a 'totting up'/persistent offender basis. And don't even get me started on Shawcross at Stoke. He must have a fantastic collection of compromising pictures of PL refs.
Breaking news - after today Norwich have cancelled their end of season dinner.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
More worried John!!! Not more likely. That is still the same as it was this AM.
Worried / likely infers the same to me.
Also, it's not the same as it was this morning is it, unless I've been dreaming.
Being worried has no bearing on whether something will happen, it is a personal feeling.
It is not more likely - the position we should be concerned about, 18th, is still exactly as it was at 3.
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Lots of Norwich fans upset that Hughton A-played for a point and B-failed to get it. Welcome to Aston Villa season 2011/2012. Whatever happened to that bloke who took Norwich up two divisions and played attacking football?
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MOTD order: 1.WBA v Wigan, 2. Norwich v Aston Villa, 3. Fulham v Reading, 4. Spurs v Tottenham, 5. QPR v Arsenal, 6. West Ham v Newcastle, 7. Swansea v Man City
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
More worried John!!! Not more likely. That is still the same as it was this AM.
Worried / likely infers the same to me.
Also, it's not the same as it was this morning is it, unless I've been dreaming.
Being worried has no bearing on whether something will happen, it is a personal feeling.
It is not more likely - the position we should be concerned about, 18th, is still exactly as it was at 3.
It isn't though, there are now 5 teams that have to do better than us in order for us to go down.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
I agree were not safe, but to say your more worried now than yesterday is a bit odd?
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
More worried John!!! Not more likely. That is still the same as it was this AM.
Worried / likely infers the same to me.
Also, it's not the same as it was this morning is it, unless I've been dreaming.
Being worried has no bearing on whether something will happen, it is a personal feeling.
It is not more likely - the position we should be concerned about, 18th, is still exactly as it was at 3.
It isn't though, there are now 5 teams that have to do better than us in order for us to go down.
But the one in the position we are trying to avoid is no further behind, nor closer to us. Those other sides have a game left which on paper I would expect them to win. As such, for me, Wigan are still the side.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
I agree were not safe, but to say your more worried now than yesterday is a bit odd?
I really don't see why it is odd. I expected Albion, at home, where they have done well all season, to get at least a point. As such, Wigan to be further back if anything.
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Our situation now is much better than it was at 3pm in my opinion.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
I appreciate the irony in ending your post with 'ridiculous statement' when not a sentence earlier you say that people want us to go down.
*Shakes head and rolls eyes*
More worried John!!! Not more likely. That is still the same as it was this AM.
Worried / likely infers the same to me.
Also, it's not the same as it was this morning is it, unless I've been dreaming.
Being worried has no bearing on whether something will happen, it is a personal feeling.
It is not more likely - the position we should be concerned about, 18th, is still exactly as it was at 3.
It isn't though, there are now 5 teams that have to do better than us in order for us to go down.
But the one in the position we are trying to avoid is no further behind, nor closer to us. Those other sides have a game left which on paper I would expect them to win. As such, for me, Wigan are still the side.
I think you put too much store by games teams are 'expected to win'. It rarely turns out that way, if it did the bookies would all go bust.
The significant thing is that there are now several teams that have to better our results to survive. It might happen but it's unlikely.
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We weren't great today but penalty aside, did Guzan have a save to make?
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It is, Naarwich have been pulled into it too. More teams scraping it out the better.
Weds match is key though, let's face it Norwich and the Geordies are more worried now than they were at 3pm.
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Of course we're better off now than we were this morning. We've got through another game and we've won it. It's not over until the end, but you have to jump the hurdles that stand before you and the finish line, and we've leapt the last two like a thoroughbred with a rocket up its arse.
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Can anyone tell me why Lowton was subbed? Is he injured if some what is the prognosis?
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As Lambert said, you must concentrate of your own games and win those which is precisely what we've done - again. Marvelous stuff.
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Managers under pressure talk bollocks. It's the law.
I think Hughton should pick himself up and go again
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Can anyone tell me why Lowton was subbed? Is he injured if some what is the prognosis?
Looked like ankle injury - not sure how bad though.
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We were in a better situation at 5pm than we were at 3pm. I can confirm that after a couple of hours drinking I believe we are currently now in an even better situation than we were at 5pm.
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Not in a million year are we safe. Doesnt matter how many teams are below us, the points gap is still too small. Chelsea want Champions League and Wigan could need a win to stay up.
Hardest run in out of the lot for me
Amazingly, I agree Tuscans, and am more worried about relegation today than I was yesterday. The gap is the same, but a tough fixture for Wigan they have won.
FFS, are you serious, we've won, teams above us have dropped points, Wigan are still 5 points behind us, with 4 games to play to our 2. How on earth are we more likely to be relegated now then we were yesterday? I swear some people want us to be relegated just so they can say I told you so.
We all know we are not safe, yet, but to say we are more likely to be relegated than we were is a ludicrous statement.
Absolutely spot on!! I was in a great mood until i came on here, the amount of dejection on here is unbelivable. I also didnt realise we were guarenteed to lose our next 2 games according to some "wise owls" on here. Weve won 5 of our last 8 but we are automatically going to lose our last 2. Are some people ever happy FFS.
Absolutely great result, and its a about time we did get a last minute winner and have a bit of luck for a change. We might not be safe yet but im 100% happier with our plight than at 3.00pm.
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Can anyone tell me why Lowton was subbed? Is he injured if some what is the prognosis?
Looked like ankle injury - not sure how bad though.
He had an ice pack on his thigh in the dug out. Reckon it was a dead leg from that dirty bastard Holt.
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A game closer to the end of the season and no closer to the bottom.
That is a step forward.
It raises an interesting question, though. A couple o games ago the consensus seemed to be: 'if we can't get six more points from our remaining games, then we deserve to go down.'
Well, now we've got them. If we went down, would we deserve to stay up?
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Can anyone tell me why Lowton was subbed? Is he injured if some what is the prognosis?
Looked like ankle injury - not sure how bad though.
He had an ice pack on his thigh in the dug out. Reckon it was a dead leg from that dirty bastard Holt.
Doesnt sound all that serious then in that case.
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Can anyone tell me why Lowton was subbed? Is he injured if some what is the prognosis?
Looked like ankle injury - not sure how bad though.
He was sat on the bench with an ice pack on his thigh. Not sure where you get ankle injury from. Grant Holt kept 'roughing' up our defenders, raking his studs down people's legs and the like. I imagine it was something along those lines.
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Can anyone tell me why Lowton was subbed? Is he injured if some what is the prognosis?
Looked like ankle injury - not sure how bad though.
He was sat on the bench with an ice pack on his thigh. Not sure where you get ankle injury from. Grant Holt kept 'roughing' up our defenders, raking his studs down people's legs and the like. I imagine it was something along those lines.
Saw him crouched down feeling his ankle early on , maybe it was the thigh injury that forced him off - either way hopefully he will be fit next week.
Lichaj filled in well enough for him but Lowton is a much better threat going forward.
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A game closer to the end of the season and no closer to the bottom.
That is a step forward.
It raises an interesting question, though. A couple o games ago the consensus seemed to be: 'if we can't get six more points from our remaining games, then we deserve to go down.'
Well, now we've got them. If we went down, would we deserve to stay up?
I think people are stuck with the idea that it is us or Wigan and they have a game in hand/play us on the last day/always manage to escape. I was in total agreement that it was us or Wigan put clearly after today that is not the case.
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40 pts safety. We are staying up !!!
What a surprise Albion lost against Wigan. ******.
Gabby gabby gabby gabby gabby agbonlabor!!!
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Great win Villa.
Dirty Cheating Smethwick bastards trying to do us. Hate them more than ever. You know what you are.
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I can't see Wigan picking up 6 points from Swansea and Arsenal. I think if they come away with 2, they'll be lucky. Swansea are decent, albeit with little to play for. Arsenal have to push for their top 4 spot and should have too much quality.
I just think the amount of games coming up for Wigan, and their small squad, is gonna factor in. Great win for them today but they may run out of steam.
If Stoke beat Sunderland, the cats will really be up against it in the last two. They'll struggle to pick themselves up for it. It all depends on their reaction to getting a pasting by us.
Newcastle are really struggling too. Norwich don't look like they've got many goals in them.
Given our form and the goals from our front 3, I don't think we've finished putting points on the board. I think by last game we'll probably be safe in all honesty. I fancy us to get a point against Chelsea.
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Win our last 2 games and we may well finish in the top 10 which would be amazing .
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I am SO SO glad today i am one of the people who has stuck with Lambert from the very off, yes tactically at times he has had a few mares and made the wrong substitutions, however overall the bravery in his decisions last summer deserve so much credit alone. Not only has PL brought our supporters back down to earth and backing THE TEAM again, He has got us playing some of the best football we have seen in years, especially away from home. The amount of kicks in the bollocks we've had this season yet PL has still managed to rally the players. 'We'll be fine' he whispered after every game in that grim Xmas period and after N'castle at home.. it may sound pretty lame but actually we will be fine, and we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
By the way, our support this season has been the best i have witnessed in years, you get a great sense of rapport between the team/management and the fans which is really positive and creates a good vibe which opposition clubs can see. UTV, Enjoy a beer tonight.
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we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
Not really. that united team of "kids" still had:
Schmichael Irwin, Pallister, Bruce, Paul Parker, Sharpe, Mcclair, Keane Cantona...
Giggs had three seasons under his belt too.
Also they had the money to buy themselves out of trouble if it didn't work.
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Win our last 2 games and we may well finish in the top 10 which would be amazing .
[i reckon we will now eastie! No way we're going down now. Even if we do fuck up though other results will keep us up. Beat Chelsea. Beat Wigan. Not a bad season!!!!]
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Started slowly I felt and Norwich like a few teams targets Bennet as a weakness and as it turned out it worked ..should of been off for the pen as it was similar to the booking he did get.Needs to toughen up in Summer or be replaced.
Gabby us out of jail single handedly as Weimann and Benteke for the most part where poor.Suprised nzog didnt come on.
Holman was shocking when he came on hopefully KEA is fit to be on bench next game if we need MF changes during the game.
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My lads on his way back from Norwich with the Sutton lions, chuffed just off to pick him up, & a big apology to those sleeping gents in the Michael Portillo lounge this afternoon when Gabbys 2nd went in !
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MOTD order: 1.WBA v Wigan, 2. Norwich v Aston Villa, 3. Fulham v Reading, 4. Spurs v Tottenham, 5. QPR v Arsenal, 6. West Ham v Newcastle, 7. Swansea v Man City
Doubt anyone could argue with that line up.
Here's one that annoys - the Beeb and Liverpool obsession. Fowler the Sinus is now an 'expert' pundit on Final Score.
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Huge win that.
Probably on balance a draw was fair but things are running for us now and in fairness we are making things happen as two excellent goals from Gabby.
Norwich are a poor poor team, hopefully WBA won't lie down against them as there's no chance they won't get anything other than a sounding beating at Man. City on the last day. If they scrape survival, they'll go down next season imo.
Must admit I thought we'd lost it as Holt's header seemed to be drifting in but just went wide. Bad error from Guzan, would've been his first proper one for the season and one that could've relegated us as that goes in and Norwich remain one point ahead of us and Wigan could've gone above us by beating Swansea.
Huge win, now let's smash Chelsea.
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we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
Not really. that united team of "kids" still had:
Schmichael Irwin, Pallister, Bruce, Paul Parker, Sharpe, Mcclair, Keane Cantona...
Giggs had three seasons under his belt too.
Also they had the money to buy themselves out of trouble if it didn't work.
Yep + Andy Cole and Butt and Scholes had already played a fair few the previous season
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we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
Not really. that united team of "kids" still had:
Schmichael Irwin, Pallister, Bruce, Paul Parker, Sharpe, Mcclair, Keane Cantona...
Giggs had three seasons under his belt too.
Also they had the money to buy themselves out of trouble if it didn't work.
Ok i'm being ridiculous, but we have Guzan, Lowton, Bennett, Baker, Westwood, Weimann and Benteke, and for United it did work. also we are more of attractive club to potential buyers than most in the bottom 12 because everything is in place and we have the stadium and training facilities to match so who says the money won't be there in the next 5 years?
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3 Points better off than at 3.oclock and we still have some on here saying doom doom and more doom, this is the best position we have been in all season, never have we been higher up the table since the season started and that was alphabetically, for fuck sake get down Villa Park next week give the Villa the noise that will make Chelsea think there in Turkey or more importantly wish they were and lets get 6 more points between now and the end of the season.
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Let's put the biggest GradeA Arrogant Twunt if football in charge of the ultimate club who are like Chavs who won the lottery to the sword next week.
Let's send them back down the M6/M40 with nothing from Villa Park except a schooling.
We are Aston Villa and we rise again!!!
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we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
Not really. that united team of "kids" still had:
Schmichael Irwin, Pallister, Bruce, Paul Parker, Sharpe, Mcclair, Keane Cantona...
Giggs had three seasons under his belt too.
Also they had the money to buy themselves out of trouble if it didn't work.
Ok i'm being ridiculous, but we have Guzan, Lowton, Bennett, Baker, Westwood, Weimann and Benteke, and for United it did work. also we are more of attractive club to potential buyers than most in the bottom 12 because everything is in place and we have the stadium and training facilities to match so who says the money won't be there in the next 5 years?
I was trying to say, that even when they took a chance on their youth they still had a squad full of experience.
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Bloody hell, it is not doom. Doom would be saying we are shit, and moaning about the team, manager, tea lady etc.
The team I could not be more proud of, they have come of age brilliantly. I even feel for Bennett tonight, who I think was very astutely targeted to get sent off by Hughton, I really do.
But in my opinion, and that is all it is, my opinion, due to the Wigan result, we are still in big trouble do the way the fixtures fall. If they win in the week, there is a very good chance on the last day they will have the opportunity to beat us and finish above us. That could be enough to relegate us still.
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Well if we get something against Chelsea and they lose by a few at Arsenal then they'll have to beat us by more than 1 goal wouldn't they?
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Oz Jim dont worry be happy ( thats if you can)
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Oz Jim dont worry be happy ( thats if you can)
Yeah, cheer up you doom-mongering misery arse! ;)
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Some of the above posts are for other 'relegation themed threads' can i remind people this is post match debate. What i would like to say is how encouraging and ultimately satisfying it was for the victory. As gabby on this occasion proved the hero and believe the current attackers we have allow for at least one of them to prove a worthy goal scoring threat. By all accounts Benteke was not at his most effective and also didn't score I can't begrudge him as hes been super. Today was Gabbys day, sweeping up to the plate in most effective and electrifiing of ways most notably second half. Inspired. I also would like to comment on Joe Bennett. I felt he was pretty poor today and could have cost us points, and more goals . he was lucky to stay on the field and feel a replacement shud be signed in summer as he is not o defensive standard.
All in all a fantastic performance and character to get the 3points and think deservedly so. I have said norwich are falling and 28/1 was the call. I think they showed little creativity and imagination offensive wise and as they dint have quality service or strikers they could not out score a team of villa attacking prowess. Up the villa and up the table we go!!
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I am SO SO glad today i am one of the people who has stuck with Lambert from the very off, yes tactically at times he has had a few mares and made the wrong substitutions, however overall the bravery in his decisions last summer deserve so much credit alone. Not only has PL brought our supporters back down to earth and backing THE TEAM again, He has got us playing some of the best football we have seen in years, especially away from home. The amount of kicks in the bollocks we've had this season yet PL has still managed to rally the players. 'We'll be fine' he whispered after every game in that grim Xmas period and after N'castle at home.. it may sound pretty lame but actually we will be fine, and we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
By the way, our support this season has been the best i have witnessed in years, you get a great sense of rapport between the team/management and the fans which is really positive and creates a good vibe which opposition clubs can see. UTV, Enjoy a beer tonight.
post of the year!
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But in my opinion, and that is all it is, my opinion, due to the Wigan result, we are still in big trouble do the way the fixtures fall. If they win in the week, there is a very good chance on the last day they will have the opportunity to beat us and finish above us. That could be enough to relegate us still.
Stop torturing yourself ozzjim. You are looking at a very narrow angle as if we are the only scenario other than Wigan. I can see both us and Wigan tapping a draw on May 19. If Norwich do not beat WBA next week they are down and now there are 5 teams below us. They will NOT all go above us come 6PM on the final day.
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MOTD order: 1.WBA v Wigan, 2. Norwich v Aston Villa, 3. Fulham v Reading, 4. Spurs v Tottenham, 5. QPR v Arsenal, 6. West Ham v Newcastle, 7. Swansea v Man City
Match 4 must be the most tightly contested game of all time, at least they both have home advantage due to the groundsharing
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Oh My God - Gabby welcome to the pantheon of Aston Villa Greats !
Poor first half, Holt was bullying our back four. Thought the ref evened it out by brainless Bennett staying on. At 1-0 I was waiting for the inevitable equaliser as a doss house has more chance of a clean sheet. When it came in that period of time which included Wigan's 3rd I was surrounded by Noses. Their glee was nauseating and I was starting to feel despondent.
Kept praying.
"Westwood picks it up, oh what a great ball in for agbonlahor, oh it must be! And it is ! Gabby Gabby Agbonlahoooooooooooor"
In my opinion one of the most important goals scored in recent Villa history. We're not mathematically safe but heck there are 4 teams below us and I don't fancy Wigan beating us.
I'm absolutely delighted this evening and bought a bottle of Whiskey to celebrate !!!!
As for Chelski next week, the most despicable bunch of w*****rs ever to take the field. Their defeat of us was one the worst moments as a Villa fan. I hope we take them apart 5-0 before their cup final.
Well done lads, proud to be a Villan !
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Getting to 40 points is a landmark but Wigan winning takes the shine off somewhat. We have the hardest run in of all the clubs I feel but one more point should do it.
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It's incredibly tight down there.
Just the way I like it
Very good.
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I am SO SO glad today i am one of the people who has stuck with Lambert from the very off, yes tactically at times he has had a few mares and made the wrong substitutions, however overall the bravery in his decisions last summer deserve so much credit alone. Not only has PL brought our supporters back down to earth and backing THE TEAM again, He has got us playing some of the best football we have seen in years, especially away from home. The amount of kicks in the bollocks we've had this season yet PL has still managed to rally the players. 'We'll be fine' he whispered after every game in that grim Xmas period and after N'castle at home.. it may sound pretty lame but actually we will be fine, and we fully deserve our Premier league status largely down to Paul Lamberts evident hard work and belief in his players, his vision is one we must pursue, the last club to take such a risk was Manchester United...
By the way, our support this season has been the best i have witnessed in years, you get a great sense of rapport between the team/management and the fans which is really positive and creates a good vibe which opposition clubs can see. UTV, Enjoy a beer tonight.
post of the year!
Reminds me of the 3rd division late 60's - 'Huge crowds followed Villa around the country as players and fans united in a common goal to get Villa back into the big time.' I think I 've paraphrased it, Gerry Sinstadt said it. Anyone remember it?
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But in my opinion, and that is all it is, my opinion, due to the Wigan result, we are still in big trouble do the way the fixtures fall. If they win in the week, there is a very good chance on the last day they will have the opportunity to beat us and finish above us. That could be enough to relegate us still.
You're concentrating too much on Wigan, Newcastle have to play QPR away and Arsenal at home, Sunderland have to play Southampton, at least one of them will drop points there, Norwich have got The Baggies and then away at Man City.
The big plus for us today has been the number of teams now sitting below us, I can see at least one of them not getting another win.
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A game closer to the end of the season and no closer to the bottom.
That is a step forward.
It raises an interesting question, though. A couple o games ago the consensus seemed to be: 'if we can't get six more points from our remaining games, then we deserve to go down.'
Well, now we've got them. If we went down, would we deserve to stay up?
We'll stay up comfortably.
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Great result! The first half was one to forget but we played some really good football in the second. Gabby was on fire and yet again delivered when it mattered.
Thought we'd blown it at the end when Guzan flapped at a cross but the striker missed an open goal. Still, brilliant result. Pity Wigan won, but if we keep this form going I can't see us dragged down.
Onto next week and a bit of revenge. F#ckin hate Chelsea and all they stand for in the game. We WILL beat those cockney tramps.
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3 Points better off than at 3.oclock and we still have some on here saying doom doom and more doom, this is the best position we have been in all season, never have we been higher up the table since the season started and that was alphabetically, for fuck sake get down Villa Park next week give the Villa the noise that will make Chelsea think there in Turkey or more importantly wish they were and lets get 6 more points between now and the end of the season.
Amen brother.
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3 Points better off than at 3.oclock and we still have some on here saying doom doom and more doom, this is the best position we have been in all season, never have we been higher up the table since the season started and that was alphabetically, for fuck sake get down Villa Park next week give the Villa the noise that will make Chelsea think there in Turkey or more importantly wish they were and lets get 6 more points between now and the end of the season.
Amen brother.
This - can't wait to make some noise for these lads next week - I can't speak highly enough about everything Lambert is doing and I am loving it. Just get through this season and good times are ahead I feel.
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MOTD order: 1.WBA v Wigan, 2. Norwich v Aston Villa, 3. Fulham v Reading, 4. Spurs v Tottenham, 5. QPR v Arsenal, 6. West Ham v Newcastle, 7. Swansea v Man City
Match 4 must be the most tightly contested game of all time, at least they both have home advantage due to the groundsharing
How do their fans get on nowadays?
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MOTD order: 1.WBA v Wigan, 2. Norwich v Aston Villa, 3. Fulham v Reading, 4. Spurs v Tottenham, 5. QPR v Arsenal, 6. West Ham v Newcastle, 7. Swansea v Man City
Match 4 must be the most tightly contested game of all time, at least they both have home advantage due to the groundsharing
How do their fans get on nowadays?
It's the most insipid 'rivalry' in football except for blose-albion.
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We are not mathematically safe, but for us to go down, Wigan, Sunderland, Newcastle, Norwich and Southampton would all need to finish above us.
I can't see that happening.
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
No.
Also, Norwich, Newcastle, and Sunderland are all playing badly.
Like I said, not mathetmatically safe yet, I wish we were, but it's looking extremely unlikely. You'll get 40/1 on us going down on bet365 at the moment. That looks like a decent consolation, if the worst did happen.
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
What relatively easier games? Newcastle's are similar to ours, a team in the bottom three in QPR and a team going for the champions league in Arsenal, Sunderland have some strugglers to play, including Southmapton and then Spurs away, Norwich have The Baggies and then Man City, Wigan have to play Arsenal too.
The fixtures are pretty evenly matched.
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
No.
Also, Norwich, Newcastle, and Sunderland are all playing badly.
Like I said, not mathetmatically safe yet, I wish we were, but it's looking extremely unlikely. You'll get 40/1 on us going down on bet365 at the moment. That looks like a decent consolation, if the worst did happen.
Yeah, I'll have a quid on that. So, if we do go down I'll have a couple of double-Ayrtons in my skyrocket. Propa nice.
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
What relatively easier games? Newcastle's are similar to ours, a team in the bottom three in QPR and a team going for the champions league in Arsenal, Sunderland have some strugglers to play, including Southmapton and then Spurs away, Norwich have The Baggies and then Man City, Wigan have to play Arsenal too.
The fixtures are pretty evenly matched.
If we go into the final round of games with more than one team between us and Wigan then yes, things look better even if we lose on Saturday. But you don't want it to be a shoot-out between us and Wigan.
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Norwich have WBA and Man City. I think they could be the team to go down.
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It's not just about who has what games remaining anymore. It's more about the mental side of things this late on, and no team in the bottom half is more comfident or more together than us right now. The importance of belief cannot be underestimated and our lot believe in each other and will never give up.
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If we go into the final round of games with more than one team between us and Wigan then yes, things look better even if we lose on Saturday. But you don't want it to be a shoot-out between us and Wigan.
Agreed and if Sunderland don't win on Monday things will be more positive, unless Wigan then go and beat Swansea and Arsenal. We're not safe but of the teams in the bottom half, we're the one in form, I think we're in a good position now, but it has been an odd season in terms of how many teams can still get relegated and end of season fixtures do turn up odd results.
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That's true.
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
Wigan have to play us and some North London outfit. Easy?
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... no team in the bottom half is more comfident or more together than us right now.
Wigan might be.
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This is Wigan. They'd beat barcelona if their survival depended on it.
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They have won one league game since December.
Lets see if they beat Swansea.
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As i've seen nothing of the match I can't was for us to be on MOTD.
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They have won one league game since December.
Lets see if they beat Swansea.
Who? Wigan?
They've beaten West Brom, Norwich, Newcastle, and Reading in the League since December.
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As for the match...
I am sure a lot has been said already, but I have never been so emotionally drained watching this Villa team. We came right back second half and should have scored two more once we went one up.
But the winner seemed to take an age to go in and we went mental, again. But it was Guzan's flap in the 92nd minute which made almost vomit up my own guts.
We were poor first half and a bit scratchy in the second at times, but we looked a threat; Norwich never did and we deserved to win.
(Should say Wigan have now won two since December)
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Just watching Wigan on MOTD - their defence is as bad as ours, if it comes to it we'll at least draw against them. The bags were on the beach after the first goal. I fancy Norwich to go as they dont have a goal in them.
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They have won one league game since December.
Lets see if they beat Swansea.
Who haven't won since March 2nd. See where I'm going with this?
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full game replay about to start on supersports 3. I'll be going to bed late.
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Where on earth did that come from from Brad at the end!
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That pass of Westwood gets better every time i see it, great finish as well
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Don't know what the hell Hughton is on, but to claim they were unlucky to lose and the should have won is just bizarre. They barely had a shot on target all game.
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Not even with the other teams relatively easier games?
What relatively easier games? Newcastle's are similar to ours, a team in the bottom three in QPR and a team going for the champions league in Arsenal, Sunderland have some strugglers to play, including Southmapton and then Spurs away, Norwich have The Baggies and then Man City, Wigan have to play Arsenal too.
The fixtures are pretty evenly matched.
If we go into the final round of games with more than one team between us and Wigan then yes, things look better even if we lose on Saturday. But you don't want it to be a shoot-out between us and Wigan.
You know what Pete?
Fuck Wigan.
We're Villa, they're Wigan.
We'll stay up, they might too. Not worried about them even if we still need some kind of result against them.
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Gabby is apparently such a funny lad apparently, love his dour attitude
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Reading through this two points.
1/. Ozzjim said the teams below us all have a game which is a banker. Surely at this end of the league table no game is a banker as most teams are a bit shite. Some points will be dropped in those games.
2/. Watching the Baggies game against Wigan, I don't think we can say the Baggies didn't try - they definitely did. I expected Wigan to win, but all along I've said neither Villa or Wigan will go down.
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Reading through this two points.
1/. Ozzjim said the teams below us all have a game which is a banker. Surely at this end of the league table no game is a banker as most teams are a bit shite. Some points will be dropped in those games.
Exactly.
Teams at the arse end of the table are there for a reason, and it is usually for not winning the bankers.
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Over last 8 games, apparently we are 4th best team in the premiership
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Us winning has given Stoke a bigger incentive against Sunderland, lose and they will also be dragged into the relegation battle. I don't think any team around us has banker games indeed when you look at Wigan having to go to arsenal and Sunderland playing Spurs on the last day i would much prefer to be in our position than theirs.We need a new left back by next week though.
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Reading through this two points.
1/. Ozzjim said the teams below us all have a game which is a banker. Surely at this end of the league table no game is a banker as most teams are a bit shite. Some points will be dropped in those games.
Exactly.
Teams at the arse end of the table are there for a reason, and it is usually for not winning the bankers.
On the counter, something happens to teams when the shit really hits the fan that makes them win games against mid table sides meandering along. Wigan and Norwich both have home games in the next week against 2 such sides. Newcastle have the side bottom of the pile. Sunderland have Stoke and Southampton at home.
In even my most optimistic assessment, it is down to Albion at Norwich and then us and Wigan on the final day.
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Other teams are going to win all their remaining matches and we are going to lose both and get relegated!
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Us winning has given Stoke a bigger incentive against Sunderland, lose and they will also be dragged into the relegation battle. I don't think any team around us has banker games indeed when you look at Wigan having to go to arsenal and Sunderland playing Spurs on the last day i would much prefer to be in our position than theirs.We need a new left back by next week though.
My lads team were short two weeks ago. Normally I do the line, but due to havinga bout of the trots said I was failing the fitness test. Transpires they only had 11 men and begged me to be sub. 15minutes in and 3 nil down, some lad got a dodgy injury and there i am, first proper game in 22 years. lost 5-4, some fat lad outpaced me and admitted when asked by me he had never tried to beat someone for lack of speed before. Confidence restored, am ready to answer the call and kick the feck out of Hazard, Oscar et all lol
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Other teams are going to win all their remaining matches and we are going to lose both and get relegated!
I hope you are not near the kitchen Ozzy
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Exactly, other teams have to get everything and we have to get nothing for us to go down.
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
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Exactly, other teams have to get everything and we have to get nothing for us to go down.
Not really. Other teams need 1 win, in games that are really there to be won. Only Norwich against Albion looks tough, and Albion showed today losing a game they should win is something they are perfectly capable of. Even a draw today, or next week with Norwich and we are safe with them off to City. But knowing our luck Albion will bugger it up.
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
Just watched the game again om MOTD and its a mystery, he should have been sent off for a second bookable offence more than once
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
Just watched the game again om MOTD and its a mystery, he should have been sent off for a second bookable offence more than once
I don't see why the foul for the pen should have been a yellow card though. It wasn't a nasty challenge and he wasn't the last man.
He gave way too many free kicks away though, and they were for mostly clumsy shirt pulling. He's got a hell of a lot to learn has Bennett.
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He needs to play in midfield. A solid left back, and push Bennett into the 3 in midfield like Whittingham and Bale have before him, would suit him down to the ground once used to it.
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
Just watched the game again om MOTD and its a mystery, he should have been sent off for a second bookable offence more than once
None of the challenges were worthy of a second booking...unless you count minor shirt pulling as a bookable offence (even those shirt pulls were not ample enough to make a fully grown male athlete drop like a sack of spuds to the floor) and the penalty decision was arguably outside the box but definitely clumsy at best.
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He needs to play in midfield. A solid left back, and push Bennett into the 3 in midfield like Whittingham and Bale have before him, would suit him down to the ground once used to it.
Yup. he is a talented lad for sure. Touch, vision, bit of pace. I am just not convinced he should be playing in defence.
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Anyone know where I can stream MOTD? For some stupid reason they don't put it on the iplayer. It's repeated in the morning but I haven't seen 8am of a Sunday in a long time and don't plan on starting now.
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By the way, what was with Hughton making subs in the 93rd minute? I mean, I am grateful and all for him eating up some time but isnt it us who are meant to be stringing out the clock? Struck me as an odd moment as I didnt see any injuries forcing him.
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Over last 8 games, apparently we are 4th best team in the premiership
Hooray! We qualify for the Recent Form Champions' League
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But knowing our luck Albion will bugger it up.
Sorry I don't see that we are more unlucky or lucky than the rest of the teams. Take yesterday, for example, Bennett should have been sent off a long time before the pen and certainly when he gave the penalty away. We score the winner in the 90th minute. They mess up a very god chance to equalise in the 94th.
And talking about luck Cisse's shot was over the line when West Ham defender cleared it!
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Bennett and Guzan were awful yesterday. Guzan has been very decisive so far this season and that has put him in a good place but he made some porridge decisions and we are lucky we didn't get punished.
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Over last 8 games, apparently we are 4th best team in the premiership
Hooray! We qualify for the Recent Form Champions' League
Oh no what have you done? If Platini's researchers are trolling this forum UEFA are probably already off selling TV rights for this. Games to be played on Friday afternoon!
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It was never a penalty, first contact outside the area and the forward took a dive once in the area.
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Guzan's gone a bit wobbly of late. Some rash decisions. Needs to sort it out cos I can see him costing us a goal
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Guzan's gone a bit wobbly of late. Some rash decisions. Needs to sort it out cos I can see him costing us a goal
Your spot on there mate, he has been outstanding all season but he needs to refocus
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It was never a penalty, first contact outside the area and the forward took a dive once in the area.
I agree it wasn't a pen but once the ref had decided it was a foul and a penalty than the lad was very lucky to stay on.
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
Just watched the game again om MOTD and its a mystery, he should have been sent off for a second bookable offence more than once
None of the challenges were worthy of a second booking...unless you count minor shirt pulling as a bookable offence (even those shirt pulls were not ample enough to make a fully grown male athlete drop like a sack of spuds to the floor) and the penalty decision was arguably outside the box but definitely clumsy at best.
Bennet should have been sent off for persistent fouling. Agbonlahor dragged us to the win by himself.
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This run is is starting to remind me of the run at the end of the 97/98 season- john gregory's first three months, where we couldnt stop winning, moved clear of relegation and qualified for europe, winning every week and playing with style. We then heartbreakingly lost our star striker, reinvested well and led the premier leauge for three months, carrying our form into the new season of course!
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Just seen the goals on Match of the Day. A couple more crackers to add to this season's collection!
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Anyone know where I can stream MOTD? For some stupid reason they don't put it on the iplayer. It's repeated in the morning but I haven't seen 8am of a Sunday in a long time and don't plan on starting now.
Download here (http://forum.wiziwig.eu/threads/76809-English-Football-Downloads-2012-2013-No-Spoilers/page44)
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Anyone know where I can stream MOTD? For some stupid reason they don't put it on the iplayer. It's repeated in the morning but I haven't seen 8am of a Sunday in a long time and don't plan on starting now.
If only there were some form of recording device...
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He needs to play in midfield. A solid left back, and push Bennett into the 3 in midfield like Whittingham and Bale have before him, would suit him down to the ground once used to it.
The voice of reason! But Lambert is single minded and will persist with him until he comes good.
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Over last 8 games, apparently we are 4th best team in the premiership
Just shows how deep in the shit we were a couple of months ago. We've won 5 and drawn one of our last eight games, which is way better than any other club down there, and we're still not mathematically safe.
I think we're just about OK now, though. I have thought all along that we'll get at least a point against Chavski, and if we still need something at Wigan on the last day, we'll get that too. Let's all believe, people!
Bennett needs to cut out the stupid shirt pulling.
Oh, and Grant Holt is a donkey. And a c**t.
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Grant Holte caused trouble for our defenders all afternoon
he's not a great footballer rather limited actually,but it's funny if an opposition player bullies our defence he is a dirty bastard, yet if one of ours does the same he's been unplayable,
it's one eyed support at its finest
Bennett was woefull yesterday, the worst defensive display I have seen all season, absolute rubbish, he won't get away with that again, he could cost us big time if he carries on doing stupid things the whole game
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Holt is a dirty bastard because he is in the same mould as Kevin Davies; a fat, whinging, all elbows knob head.
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That probably might be the most important winning goal Gabby will score for a while. That second goal was just a class finish. I thought their 5 man midfield made it difficult for us and a few months ago that's a game we would have lost but having said that, we should have had four in the end. Also a quick mention for Lichaj who did really well considering he has'nt played for a while.
Thankfully the beer in the Compleat Angler was better than last year.
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A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
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Holt is a dirty bastard because he is in the same mould as Kevin Davies; a fat, whinging, all elbows knob head.
I listened on Radio Free 80s (or something, whatever that is/was), they reckoned he 'did' Baker, left his foot in and raked his studs. Perhaps they should've been down to ten long before we should've.
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Holt is a dirty bastard because he is in the same mould as Kevin Davies; a fat, whinging, all elbows knob head.
I listened on Radio Free 80s (or something, whatever that is/was), they reckoned he 'did' Baker, left his foot in and raked his studs. Perhaps they should've been down to ten long before we should've.
They jumped for a header and Holt kicked his leg out. Dirt bastard. I hate him.
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A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
There's a lot more to his weaknesses at the back than just being small. He's always out of position and doesn't link up at all well with his centre back. Defensively he's just bloody awful, I'd rather see him on the left of midfield, as he has good energy and gets the ball in well.
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I liked the bit where Weimann boots the ball into orbit and out of carrow rd to waste a few precious seconds ;-)
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I did wonder last night why MotD did not bother showing Gabby's chance at the end of the first half, or Benteke's booking if they wanted to carry on the story of Villa being potentially down to ten.
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Didnt realise how lucky Bennett was not to be sent off.
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A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
There's a lot more to his weaknesses at the back than just being small. He's always out of position and doesn't link up at all well with his centre back. Defensively he's just bloody awful, I'd rather see him on the left of midfield, as he has good energy and gets the ball in well.
Agreed. Once he crosses the half way line he's different player and an actual asset to the team. In his own half though he can be a liability. How many daft free kicks did he give away for silly shirt pulling yesterday. The left back position has to be looked at next season.
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On one of the Norwich forums they're talking about a few scuffles on the way back to and outside the station. Did anyone see any of this or is it sour graped home fans unable to take a bit of joviality?
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A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
There's a lot more to his weaknesses at the back than just being small. He's always out of position and doesn't link up at all well with his centre back. Defensively he's just bloody awful, I'd rather see him on the left of midfield, as he has good energy and gets the ball in well.
Agreed. Once he crosses the half way line he's different player and an actual asset to the team. In his own half though he can be a liability. How many daft free kicks did he give away for silly shirt pulling yesterday. The left back position has to be looked at next season.
A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
There's a lot more to his weaknesses at the back than just being small. He's always out of position and doesn't link up at all well with his centre back. Defensively he's just bloody awful, I'd rather see him on the left of midfield, as he has good energy and gets the ball in well.
A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
There's a lot more to his weaknesses at the back than just being small. He's always out of position and doesn't link up at all well with his centre back. Defensively he's just bloody awful, I'd rather see him on the left of midfield, as he has good energy and gets the ball in well.
Agreed. Once he crosses the half way line he's different player and an actual asset to the team. In his own half though he can be a liability. How many daft free kicks did he give away for silly shirt pulling yesterday. The left back position has to be looked at next season.
i agree,defensively he is a compleat waste of space they always get goalside of him.gabby got him out of jail big time
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Norwich fan said on that thread
I've had the unfortunate experience of spending 3 years in the Midlands and most of the Villa fans i've met are complete morons.
;D
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(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/04/article-2319369-199F230D000005DC-182_634x353.jpg)
:D :D
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First time I've been to Norwich, and it's gone right up there in terms of a great day out.
Compleat Angler is the perfect pre-match boozer: good ale, terrace in the sun, good spot by the river.
Good-natured locals. Even the police were very laid back.
Excellent pies in the ground.
19th minute applause well-observed by the home fans, who promptly got a standing ovation from us.
No bother afterwards when we went for a beer in one of the home pubs. Quite the opposite in fact.
And cheer up folks. Every Norwich fan who came up to us afterwards is convinced we're safe and said they're pleased we're staying up, as we're a big club with great fans. They were practically suicidal at their lack of goals, creativity and tricky fixture list. They're convinced they're going down.
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The way referees' minds work, one of our players will now get a straight red in the first 20 minutes against Chelsea.
Probably Baker, for a nothing challenge on Torres.
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A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
I agree, he reminds me a bit of Lee Hedrie in that sense, he hasn't got the strength to do what he wants to so resorts to daft fouls.
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Anyone know where I can stream MOTD? For some stupid reason they don't put it on the iplayer. It's repeated in the morning but I haven't seen 8am of a Sunday in a long time and don't plan on starting now.
If only there were some form of recording device...
Don't have a functioning telly at the moment.
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Holt is a dirty bastard because he is in the same mould as Kevin Davies; a fat, whinging, all elbows knob head.
I listened on Radio Free 80s (or something, whatever that is/was), they reckoned he 'did' Baker, left his foot in and raked his studs. Perhaps they should've been down to ten long before we should've.
Johnson went in on a late half slide that got all man when he was on a yellow, figured he could have left early on and maybe the ref just wanted to keep everyone at 11s.
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Anyone know where I can stream MOTD? For some stupid reason they don't put it on the iplayer. It's repeated in the morning but I haven't seen 8am of a Sunday in a long time and don't plan on starting now.
http://www.gettyfooty.com/2013/05/premier-league-bbc-match-of-day-motd.html
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
I'm still trying to work out why he was on the pitch at the start.
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Kammy on Goals On Sunday was very impressed that with the ball in our half just before the winner, despite being level away from home in the last moments of the game, we had four up against four in their half.
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Kammy on Goals On Sunday was very impressed that with the ball in our half just before the winner, despite being level away from home in the last moments of the game, we had four up against four in their half.
Did he have his regulatory "That's a handball!"-moments at least for one of the saturday's games? He always goes on and on "That should be a penalty for handling the ball!" even when ball is hit yard away to the arm and how the rules should be changed from deliberate handballs to all handballs should be fouls.
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
The officials talk. Especially at half-time. Norwich were targeting our full-backs and either roughing them up or trying to pressure them and to stop them getting forward. It worked. I think Bennett had a learning experience game rather than being just plain rubbish. i also think that's why he was given some leniency. Also, the foul for the penalty was actually outside the box. You have to give Norwich some credit fortargetting us where they thought we would beweakest- and but for Gabby it may have worked.
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Bennett was an utter liabilty yesterday, just waiting to get himself sent off.
After rugby tackling the player for his first yellow card, he then decides to hold every player's shirt that he comes into contact with, hasn't he got any brains? Anyway for the penalty, perhaps it was outside the box but why do anything at all, its all just brainless. If he hadn't already been booked he would have been booked fot that, he was very, very lucky to stay on the pitch!
Regarding Guzan's aberration; I have watched it several times and Bennett is just ball-watching and allows Holt to go around him, in fact I think that Guzan coming out so brazenly actually might have put Holt off a bit otherwise he would have had more of a free header?
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A lot of Bennett's fouling is from a lack of body strength. Spend the break in the gym and I think he will be decent. I don't think he really warranted the yellow card so early, maybe he deserved one later for persistent fouling but there was no way he deserved to go off. I think the ref had the sense to realize that.
There's a lot more to his weaknesses at the back than just being small. He's always out of position and doesn't link up at all well with his centre back. Defensively he's just bloody awful, I'd rather see him on the left of midfield, as he has good energy and gets the ball in well.
In the first half he did actually tuck in well on crosses and got in before Holt 3-4 times. I think strength will help, but long term he will end up much higher up the field.
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Regarding Guzan's aberration; I have watched it several times and Bennett is just ball-watching and allows Holt to go around him, in fact I think that Guzan coming out so brazenly actually might have put Holt off a bit otherwise he would have had more of a free header?
Yep, I think Guzan saw who Holt was up against and thought shit, I've got to do something here. Not the smartest move ever, but lucky for us, he got away with it.
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Norwich fan said on that thread
I've had the unfortunate experience of spending 3 years in the Midlands and most of the Villa fans i've met are complete morons.
;D
Probably an older fan who has disliked us since 1975.
Aston Villa ! Canary Killa !
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Norwich fan said on that thread
I've had the unfortunate experience of spending 3 years in the Midlands and most of the Villa fans i've met are complete morons.
;D
Probably an older fan who has disliked us since 1975.
Aston Villa ! Canary Killa !
Clever penalty from Ray Graydon that! Aimed for the post and knocked in the rebound.
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Still trying to work out how Bennett was still on the pitch at the end!
I am still trying to work out why Bennet is even on the pitch. They never looked like scoring and he gave them there two best chances. (Penalty -- free kick at the edge of the penalty box) I know he is young and all that but look at Lowton and Benteke. He might get better with experience but at what cost ??
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Great result, two very good goals from Gabby and generally a feeling of relief that the team has just about assured its safety. I still feel an apathy about everything else football wise but the love for The Villa will never leave me.
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I see the Bennett knockers are out in force again. Shirt pulling is part of the game these days and unfortunately Bennett got caught at it a few times. Look at what goes on in the penalty area these days and Bennett's were mild in comparison but it is far easier for a ref to give them outside the box. He must learn this and he will.
He was targeted yesterday due to his inexperience and he will learn to cope with the experienced PL players he comes up against. This is his first season in the PL for f**** sake. I am sure the coaches will work with him during preseason and tell him to not get so close to his player as he has the pace not to need to.
One thing that would help him is for the defenders and midfield players to play better balls to him. Constantly they knock balls behind him so that he is facing his own goal rather putting it in front of him.
He has been improving of late and I would put that down to confidence as much as learning. Yesterday was a high pressure game, the like of which he may never have been involved in. To keep on knocking him after a poor performance is not going to help him.
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I agree he's been much improved of late. But I would hope not to play him against Chelsea and possibly against mcmanaman of Wigan. And I'd like to buy a better defensive left back in the summer and rotate / let them compete for the spot.
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Very late in the day here, but can I just say what a dirty cheating ugly fat fucker Grant Holt is. And Tony Gale is an utter cock too. That is all.
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Very late in the day here, but can I just say what a dirty cheating ugly fat fucker Grant Holt is. And Tony Gale is an utter cock too. That is all.
Both good points, well made.
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I see the Bennett knockers are out in force again.
Someone else has posted how the close season fitness training may help him to gain some upper body strength. I go along with that.
Regarding knockers, there was one behind me at Norwich who slagged off most of the team at Norwich at some point or other. I think he only had Guzan and Vlaar left to have a moan at. I was getting ready to shout 'BINGO' when their turn came.
Anyway, at the end of the game, he was as happy as the rest of us. I think the moaning may have been his way of coping with the tension.
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Very late in the day here, but can I just say what a dirty cheating ugly fat fucker Grant Holt is. And Tony Gale is an utter cock too. That is all.
Both good points, well made.
Yep, it's total hypocrisy for Hughton to complain that Bennett should have been sent off after the way Holt smashed into everything all game.
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Holt isn't very good really is he?
I was impressed with Bassong's marking of Benteke. I think he won that battle. Even so, I can't see Norwich getting anything more than a point from their next two games. They seem a bit disjointed.
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Great result. I was born in Norwich and if my folks hadn't moved to the Mids when I was a baby I might never have experienced the joy that it is to be a Villa fan.
We are in a strong position now and our run over the last couple of months has given everyone great heart - players and fans alike. I was out in Solihull yesterday and it was nice to see so many kids and adults wearing their Villa tops - might have been a coincidence (or the sunshine) but it feels like I havn't seen many out and about recently.
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Not that its very interesting but....
On Saturday I had some last minute business in Norwich. I managed to get to the ground about 25 mins into the game, unfortunately for me, I was told there was no way to get a seat.
I was told by two stewards I could watch it in the Yellows bar, but it was all shut up.
I walked back to the Morrisons, where I parked, and bought a few things for my journey home. I had local radio on and as I sat at the traffic lights to turn right past the ground Gabby got his first goal. So I drove past the ground tooting my horn! I wonder if anybody could hear? (I guess my tinny horn would probably fail to penetrate the stadium)
As things were pretty tense and I would probably be unsafe driving, I sat in The Red Lion car park (The building reminded me of Villa Park, obviously the Lion too so I thought it was good luck http://www.bedandbreakfast-directory.co.uk/uploads/estate/hotels/hotels41699.htm)
I probably blended in with the locals, by being bright red, twitching and looking very retarded - only kidding I found the place very friendly.
A great day out!