Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine
Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on August 15, 2012, 06:49:48 PM
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As it says on the tin really. All reserve and academy player/match news. Including NextGen.
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Team news - Villa U19 v Sporting Lisbon U19.
VILLA: Barrett, Bateman, Devine, Williams, Calder, Barton, Ward, Melvin, Graham, Grealish, Drennan. Subs: Eminoglu, Watkins, Watkins-Clark, Lewis, Crowley, Strain, O’Brien.
SPORTING LISBON: Meine, Riquicho, Figneinedo, Seniedo, Pinto, Le, Mane, Maillmauu, Guedes, Rosa, Medeinos. Subs: Oliveira, Janco, Contex, Mantius, Ponde, Santos.
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Come on the Villa babbies
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15 mins gone 0-0. Drennan should have scored with a free header.
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30 mins 0-0. On top but no real chances.
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30 mins 35 seconds. 1-0 Drennan.
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1-0 Drennan 31 mins.
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32 mins 1-1.
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Err 1-1 31 mins.
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40 mins 1-2.
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Keeper should have had that one.
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H-T 1-2. Sporting well on top since we scored.
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Paul Faulkner is showing JW how to broadcast.
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Pauline is complaining there is too much gin with her tonic.
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Pauline is complaining there is too much gin with her tonic.
I've heard that wine is the only cure for that :)
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59 mins 1-3 very dodgy pen.
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He went down a little too softly for me, not a penalty. 1-3
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Anybody else having trouble with AVTV?
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Anybody else having trouble with AVTV?
It's stuttering a bit and they had trouble with audio earlier but otherwise okay here.
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75 mins still 1-3. It's gone a bit flat.
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didn't we lose our first game last season vs Ajax then went on to win the group with ease?
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FT 1-3. Second best to a team that seemed older than ours. I thought Bateman (2) and Devine (5) looked good.
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Pauline is now complaining about the lack of ice.
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Pauline is complaining there is too much gin with her tonic.
I've heard that wine is the only cure for that :)
I've given up wine. Decided to change my tipple to gin and tonic. At no time did I ask for a double but that seems to be what I got. Very nice mind and it is my birthday. Hic!
Game wise, disappointing result tonight but I'm sure we'll come back fighting in the next game.
Very pleasant evening.
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Started well, but Sporting got on top pretty much straight after we scored and they stopped Grealish getting the ball. Oh and me Mom & Dad came to the game.
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Started well, but Sporting got on top pretty much straight after we scored and they stopped Grealish getting the ball. Oh and me Mom & Dad came to the game.
How did they enjoy the game, Mike?
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It seems like the younger sides are on a bit of a learning curve trying to play the way Lambert wants the different age groups to play. The game might have come along a bit too early for them and hopefully they will be a lot better in the next games.
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We did have a young team out with apparently a few missing through injury.
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Started well, but Sporting got on top pretty much straight after we scored and they stopped Grealish getting the ball. Oh and me Mom & Dad came to the game.
How did they enjoy the game, Mike?
His Dad's comment on the way out was "Who's stupid idea was that?"
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2889579,00.html
The venues and kick-off times for Villa's U21 fixtures in the new Professional Development League have been confirmed.
Villa, managed by Gordon Cowans, will kick off the new season on Wednesday with a game against Stoke City at the Bodymoor Heath training ground.
The club's home games will be split between Bodymoor Heath, Hinckley United and Villa Park.
See the full fixture list below.
Wed Aug 22 - Stoke City - H - 1pm - Bodymoor Heath
Mon Sep 3 - Southampton - A - 2.30pm - Staplewood TG
Sat Sep 8 - Southampton - H - 2pm - Bodymoor Heath
Mon Sep 24 - Sunderland - A - 2pm - Academy of Light*
Mon Oct 1 - Tottenham Hotspur - A - 12pm - Enfield Training Centre
Mon Oct 8 - Newcastle United - H - 7pm - Villa Park
Mon Oct 29 - Stoke City - A - 7.30pm - Nantwich Town
Mon Nov 12 - Sunderland - H - 7pm - Hinckley United
Mon Nov 19 - Manchester United - A - 7pm Altrincham
Mon Dec 3 - Newcastle United - A - 7pm - Northumberland**
Mon Dec 10 - Manchester United - H - 7pm - Hinckley United
Mon Dec 17 - Tottenham Hotspur - H - 7pm - Villa Park
* That's a bit pretentious to say the least
** ....and that's a bit vague
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Just land in Northumberland and follow the traffic.
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Villa U21 3-0 up versus Stoke. Villa’s team looks quite strong with Herd, Licaj, Gardner all playing.
Has this U21 league replaced the Reserves league?
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FT - Villa 3-0 Stoke (Drennan 48, Johnson 58, Barton 78)
VILLA: Siegrist, Lichaj, Herd, Williams, Stevens, Barton, Gardner, Johnson, Cameron, Grealish, Drennan. Subs: Devine, Barrett, Donacien, Graham, Ward.
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Can season ticket holders get in for these games?
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The game was played at Bodymore so anyone can go. They played it at the back so its quite a long walk round to it.
I only watched the last 40 minutes. Donacian played at right back and did very well. I think Devine is looking very good this season and can't be far away from a place in the first team squad. We played some very good football with DJ and Grealish looking very confident.
Gary Gardner came off with a knee injury that caused some concern but he seemed to have good movement in it so should be ok.
I'm not sure Stoke were up to much in all honesty.
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I've seen Devine a couple of times this season and he's looked good. What about Grealish and Drennan?
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They both played well. Drennan's movement is very good. I know he is scoring for fun at the moment but it is his finishing that lets him down a bit.
Grealish was excellent. Fantastic run and pass for Bartons goal. I have seen him three times this season and he is playing that free role behind the striker as opposed to last season where he mostly played as a winger.
DJ looks a real talent as well. I didn't think much of him three seasons ago but he gets better every time I see him play.
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http://www2.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/Barclays-U21-premier-league-220812.html
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I thought Devine looked a couple of years ago. Has he been injured?
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He had passport problems didn't he?
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He had passport problems didn't he?
That's Janoi Donacien. Devine had some injuries last season.
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Danny Devine had a bad knee injury which kept him from playing all last season. Although it happened at the end of his YTS the club still offered him a Pro contract showing that they think he is a good bet for the future.
Donacian had passport problems. I am unsure about him but he is developing well and played well at right back in the second half today.
We tend to beleave what we read in the press about things we haven't seen. I have just read that report from premierleague.com and they stated that Seigrist joined us in the summer. I swear it was Jack Grealish that set up Barton for the third goal while they get him confused with Donacien. Then Sky Sports News are reporting Chris Herd played the full 90 minutes. He didn't play in the last 40 minutes that I watched.
I wonder what else they get wrong.
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Just read the match report on the OS. Herd came off at half time and if its on the official site, I don't know where Sky are getting their info from.
It was interesting to read that Lambert was involved in the half time team talk. Being as its at Bodymoor Heath its not surprising that he was there but I imagine most managers would leave it to whoever is in charge of the development team (Gordon Cowans?). Whatever he said must have been effective going by the timings of the goals. It will be interesting to see if any of this next batch of kids get fast tracked.
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Devine looked one of the best players when a much-weakened team (I don't know why) lost to Sporting last week in the NextGen. He seems to be less impulsive than he used to be. I much prefer him to Williams who. to my eye, isn't going to make it.
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We're away at PSV in the Nextgen but there's nothing on the OS. The best I've been able to find is the Nextgen Twitter feed (https://twitter.com/NextGenSeries). Anyone got anything better?
It's roughly 60 minutes in and we're 0-1 down.
TEAM NEWS: Aston Villa XI vs. PSV - Watkins, Barton, Cameron, Ward, Bateman, Devine, Melvin, Carruthers, Drennan, Grealish, Graham
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Full time 0-1 :(
Apparently there'll be highlights on the Nextgen web site tomorrow.
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Shame.
Good to see Carruthers is fit.
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Can anyone explain why so many players - Webb, Donacien, Kinsella and Barrett, have missed out?
Why enter a prestigious tournament like this and not put your strongest team out?
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Is Donacien's passport problem sorted?
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So somebody said on here a while ago when I posed the same question. Can't recall if they linked it to anything official.
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Apparently U21s are in action right now v Southampton, all the games seem to be during working hours.. are people not encouraged to attend anymore?
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Apparently U21s are in action right now v Southampton
Finished 3-3
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19th September v Celtic at VP is the next NextGen fixture.
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Do you have to pay to watch reserves games at Bodymoor heath,thinking of going down to Southampton game this afternoon.
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Gabby, Westwood and Bowery starting against Southampton
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@AVFCOfficial: Villa 0-1 Southampton - GOAL - 9 mins: Sam Hoskins scores with a glancing header from Andy Robinson's left-wing cross. #avfc
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Villa U21 2-2 Southampton U21 (Devine 83, 86; Hoskins 11, Barton OG 90).
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Not the intended purpose for this thread but it is an interesting commentary on reserve/U21 football from a player’s perspective.
Surely the logical solution would be for Everton to send him on a season long loan...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19522021
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Good win for the Academy lads at Manu yesterday. 2-0 with both goals scored by the fit again Callum Robinson. Looking forward to Celtic on wednesday night.
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Not the intended purpose for this thread but it is an interesting commentary on reserve/U21 football from a player’s perspective.
Surely the logical solution would be for Everton to send him on a season long loan...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19522021
He's not with them anymore.
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Don't forget, we're at home to Celtic tonight in the NextGen. KO is 7pm if anyone fancies going along to see the babbies.
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Are you positive it's 7 PWS? I only ask because I was hoping it was later :( and I've got a right rush on to get there.
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It's 7pm according to the official site. I can't make it across to Brum but the video's available if you subscribe to AVTV and the audio should be free.
More here. (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2923663,00.html)
We really need to win this after losing the first two.
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15 mins 0-0.
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20 mins 1-0 Carruthers.
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20 mins 1-0 Carruthers.
nice one martin
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30 mins 1-0.
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34 mins 2-0 Melvin.
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37 mins Barton for Robinson.
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41 minutes: Woodhall gives rousing rendition of The Billy Boys to the Celtic fans.
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HT: 2-0.
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48 mins 2-1.
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60 mins 2-1.
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70 mins Ward for Grealish.
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75 mins 2-1.
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FT 3-2.
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FT 3-2.
What game you at?
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Thanks for the updates, sounds a good match.
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I was chatting for a lot of the second half, but I could swear it finished 2-1.
Barton looks really good. Hope he's no relation.
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Bugger. Blasted phone.
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Got a bit cold during the second half. Thought we were quite poor if i'm honest, especially in the second half. Fortunately Celtic weren't up to much so didn't take advantage. Thought Bateman and Barton looked okay. A bit disappointed with the likes of Carruthers, Drennan and Grealish.
Celeb spotting included Tayls (of course), Black Danny, Albrighton, Sid and a special treat for me as my main Rovers days were the glory times under him, Bobby Hope.
Downer of the night, the twats who started the Tracey Andrews song.
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I thought Carruthers played well.
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The Brigada Ultras went down in my estimation of them for the Tracie Andrews song as well as a few choice other ditties, especially considering the make-up of the crowd being highly populated by very young children.
Carruthers was very good. Well taken goal. Poor second half.
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Indeed Leeg, it's a youth game, do we really need so many songs about small heath, a lot of swearing and most disgustingly as mentioned, the Tracie Andrews song.
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What sort of attendances do we get at these games?
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I thought Carruthers played well.
He was okay in the first half, good goal but gave the ball away a lot, which got worse in the second. Did a lot of donkey work though including a couple of challenges. Guess I just expected a bit more from him and a couple of others at that level, especially as I thought Celtic looked quite poor.
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What sort of attendances do we get at these games?
Hard to tell where I was sat, but i'd guesstimate about 1200 tonight.
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He has only just recovered from an injury and has played far, far better than today's performance suggested. I really think he is (going to be) something special.
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What sort of attendances do we get at these games?
Hard to tell where I was sat, but i'd guesstimate about 1200 tonight.
I'd be surprised if it was over 1,000. We never have got big gates for these sort of games.
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What sort of attendances do we get at these games?
Hard to tell where I was sat, but i'd guesstimate about 1200 tonight.
I'd be surprised if it was over 1,000. We never have got big gates for these sort of games.
I could well have overestimated as it was hard to tell where I was, although from my angle it did look quite full in the section North Stand side. Also, I was still giddy with excitement at seeing Bobby Hope again so wasn't seeing straight.
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An enjoyable evening, thanks to Dave W. and Mysteryman for getting me in gratis. Saw villajk as well, which is always a pleasure.
A productive night too: Roger Davis told my son that if he has any trouble round their end, to knock on his door and he'll sort it. If you don't know Roger, that's the Chelmsley equivalent of having an Uncle Tony Soprano.
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I was going but the missus scuppered my plans for daring to do some overtime and then expecting a lft afterwards.
She owes me a pint I reckon.
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The Brigada Ultras went down in my estimation of them for the Tracie Andrews song as well as a few choice other ditties, especially considering the make-up of the crowd being highly populated by very young children.
Carruthers was very good. Well taken goal. Poor second half.
Brigada 1874 didn't sing any Tracey Andrews songs, that was some chap in a hat stood about 10 yards to the right of us.
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Are fans allowed in to BH to watch the U21 & U18 games ?
Or are they behind closed doors ?
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Are fans allowed in to BH to watch the U21 & U18 games ?
Or are they behind closed doors ?
You're usually allowed in.
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HT - Tottenham U21 1-1 Villa U21 (Obika 4; Burke 36).
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FT - Tottenham U21 3-3 Villa U21 (Obika 4, 83, Stewart 52; Burke 36, Bowery 57, Carruthers 67).
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Bowery scored, nice one
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Sounds like a good game.
I went on saturday to watch the academy game against Spurs at Bodymore. The lads are playing some lovely football this season but haven't always got the results that their domination has deserved.
We put that right against Spurs with a 4-2 victory. Jack Grealish played up front and had a sensational game scoring twice and with Daniel Crowley, running the spurs defence ragged. Jordan Graham and Charlie Ward added the other goals.
For some reason Spurs played in the Villa away kit. I guess someone will be in trouble for forgetting to put the kit on the bus.
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Anyone know what has happened to Josh Webb, promising right-back/centre-back in last year's NextGen team?
While on the subject, add Janoi Donacien's name to the 'missing' list.
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Josh Webb has been injured all season as has Lewis Kinsella who also played in the nextgen games.
Janoi played at right back for the reserves against Stoke a few weeks ago.
Callum Robinson has a knee injury which might require surgery I have been told as well.
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Thanks for posting Larry. Your updates are always a welcome, good, informative read.
I'd be interested in your thoughts on the 'who should we loan out?' thread.
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Villa's U21 side are looking to continue their unbeaten start to the season against Newcastle tonight - and you can watch all the action live on AVTV.
The boys in claret and blue are back in action against the Magpies at Villa Park - kick-off 7pm.
Gordon Cowans' team have provided terrific entertainment so far this term with a convincing win over Stoke City as well as high scoring draws against Southampton and Tottenham Hotspur.
Now they are looking for a big performance under the Villa Park floodlights.
AVTV subscribers can tune in from 6.30pm for the best build-up to the game, including pre-match comment as well as live footage of the teams warming up.
Then sit back and watch all the action unfold with commentary from Jack Woodward.
Alternatively, you can enjoy our traditional live audio and text commentaries.
Tickets for tonight's clash are available at the ground before kick-off, priced at £2 for adults and £1 for juniors, while season ticket holders can attend for free.
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Has Kevin MacDonald found another job yet?
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HT - Villa U21 0-0 Newcastle U21 - Even first-half at Villa Park. Jordan Bowery converted a powerful volley after meeting a superb chipped ball from Samir Carruthers but the former Chesterfield striker was flagged offside. Bowery also forced Newcastle goalkeeper Jak Alnwick to push away a stinging low drive. The visitors finished the half strongly with Adam Campbell heading wide from close range.
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How did we finish up?
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We lost 2-1.
Burke scored our equaliser.
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Cheers.:(
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Match report from the OS , apparently Jordan Bowery was substituted just before Half Time but no mention of why although , in reading , it appears he was having a good game up to that point ....................Godzvilla! .
By Dan Harrison at Villa Park
Villa missed out on a chance to move up to second in the Barclays U21 Premier League as their unbeaten run came to an end an against Newcastle.
Graham Burke scored a well-taken equaliser for the claret and blues after Adam Campbell had fired the Magpies in front just before the hour mark.
But the visitors departed with three points thanks to Mehdi Abeid's solo effort.
There were two changes to the Villa side that drew 3-3 in a thriller at Tottenham Hotspur last week.
Enda Stevens returned from a hamstring injury while Courtney Cameron also came into the starting XI with Derrick Williams and Chris Herd dropping out.
Newcastle welcomed Spanish striker Xisco back into the fold - his first appearance for the club following a season-long loan at Deportivo La Coruna.
The Magpies fielded seven players with first team experience including Romain Amalfitano, a summer signing from Reims, and former Everton midfielder Dan Gosling.
The two teams managed 26 goals in nine games between them going into this clash but the first period began at a surprisingly slow tempo.
Jordan Bowery, fresh from his first Villa goal at Spurs seven days ago, looked lively again before being forced off through injury two minutes before the break.
The former Chesterfield striker thought he had opened the scoring when he met Samir Carruthers' lofted pass with a fierce volley.
But the linesman raised his flag as Bowery had strayed fractionally offside.
Seven minutes later, the 21-year-old called Jak Alnwick into action for the first time.
The Newcastle goalkeeper got down to his right to push Bowery's stinging right-foot drive to safety.
The visitors finished the half strongly with Conor Newton volleying wide after Villa only half cleared a corner.
Then, just before the interval, Campbell headed wide from close range when Haris Vuckic found him at the back post with an inswinging cross.
If the first-half appeared somewhat subdued, there was no shortage of entertainment in the second.
Carruthers split two defenders with a delightful pass to play in Burke soon after the restart but the Irishman sliced his effort off target.
Then goalkeeper Benjamin Siegrist came to Villa's rescue, sliding out to thwart Amalfitano who was through on goal.
But the Swiss custodian could do little about Campbell's deadlock-breaker on 57 minutes.
Campbell found space in the penalty area to fire across goal into the bottom corner.
Villa responded well and Burke's well-crafted equaliser was the least they deserved.
It came via another incisive Carruthers pass to pick out his team-mate, who took one touch before tucking past Alnwick.
The lead lasted just three minutes, though, as Abeid beat Siegrist with a low drive from the edge of the penalty area.
The away side had an opportunity to extend their lead when Siegrist made an acrobatic save to keep out Campbell's angled shot.
VILLA: Siegrist, Cameron, Devine, Baker, Stevens, Carruthers, Westwood, Johnson, Stieber, Burke, Bowery. Subs: Bateman [for Bowery, 42], Barrett, Graham [for Stieber, 81], Watkins-Clark, Melvin.
NEWCASTLE: Alnwick, Newton, Riley, Tavernier, Satka, Campbell, Abeid, Gosling, Amalfitano, Vuckic, Xisco. Subs: Hooper, Inman [for Xisco, 57], Maddison [for Gosling, 81], Meile [for Vuckic, 88], Woodman
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Is Herd injured as he didn't even appear to make the bench? Also, are these games taking the place of reserve games, how many over 21 players can you field per team?
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Yes, the reserve league is now an U21 league. I think you can play three over age players.
Although Newcastle came with a strong side last night we were not very inspiring. We have a collection of good individual players but are not really blending as a team.
I thought Ashley Westwood would be a bit more dominant and didn't look as accomplished as Carruthers and Johnson. He grew into the game and had a decent second half though.
Jordan Bowery has something about him. Very good in the air and quick too. He picked up a knee injury just before half time and had to come off. He has obvious ability but has a slightly laid back attitude which could become annoying if things are not working out for him.
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I'm surprised that the bigger clubs with the bigger squads have voted for this then, there will be a lot of senior players who don't get any game time at all from one week to the next.
Strange.
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NextGen Series team news - Celtic U19 v Villa U19.
CELTIC: Daniels, Fisher, Chalmers, Fraser, Findlay, Irvine, P.Twardzik, Kidd, Atajic, Johnstone, Lindsay. Subs: Miller, Hart, McNally, McMullan, Kirwan, McManus, Henderson.
VILLA: Hill, Bateman, Lewis, Lyden, Devine, Watkins-Clark, Graham, Ward, Drennan, Carruthers, Grealish. Subs: Barton, Barrett, Crowley, Dempsey, Strain, Calder, Cowans.
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Winning 1-0
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Jordan graham
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Jordan keeps up the Villa tradition of scoring in off the post in a European game.
Celtic U19 0-1 Villa U19 - GOAL - 24 mins: Villa are in front thanks to a headed goal from Jordan Graham - his first in the NextGen Series. Brad Lewis crossed from the left flank and Graham's header went in off the post.
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0-2 Drennan.
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Celtic U19 0-2 Villa U19 - GOAL - 40 mins: Michael Drennan has doubled Villa's advantage. Samir Carruthers picked out Jordan Graham on the right wing with a superb cross-field pass. Graham took two touches before picking out Drennan who rose to power a header past the keeper.
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1-2 Devine og
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30 odd mins to go
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Shouldn't that be 30 even minutes? (Sorry).
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Maybe, but the game is in Scotland so they could be odd, just joking my Scottish brothers!
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Celtic U19 2-2 Villa U19 - GOAL - 72 mins: Celtic draw level at the Firhill Stadium after Patrik Twardzik meets a cross from Joseph Chalmers and heads past Craig Hill.
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2-2. Twardzik.
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2-2
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2-2 FT
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There was a Cowans listed among the subs. Any relation?
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There was a Cowans listed among the subs. Any relation?
His lad Henry is at the Academy.
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Aston Villa U-11s 1 Cardiff City U-11s 2 (7-a-side)
Aston Villa U-11s 3 Cardiff City U-11s 4 (6-a-side)
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Anybody know when we're playing Sporting, I have an idea it's this week and might take the kids along?
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Stoke U21 1-0 Villa U21 - GOAL - 7 mins: Stoke take the lead against the run of play. Jordan Richardson plays a clever through ball to James Alabi who fires an angled shot into the top corner.
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Stoke U21 1-2 Villa U21 - GOAL - 55 mins: Michael Drennan has turned this game on its head with some incredible finishing. This time he steps up from a free-kick and hits it under the wall, into the bottom corner. No chance for Carlo Nash in the Stoke goal.
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Stoke U21 1-3 Villa U21 - GOAL - 90 mins: Andras Stieber makes sure of the points for Villa. The Hungarian wideman pounces after Stoke fail to clearly Jordan Graham's cross. Carlo Nash can't hold Stieber's powerful low drive.
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FT - Stoke U21 2-3 Villa U21 - A thrilling clash at the Weaver Stadium ends 3-2 to Villa. Two brilliant finishes from Michael Drennan at the start of the second-half and a stoppage time effort from Andras Stieber gave Villa their second win in the Barclays U21 Premier League. But they had goalkeeper Benjamin Siegrist to thank too for some superb saves in the first-half.
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I wondered what had happened to Stieber, I haven't heard his name in what seems like an age.
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You might be confusing him with another Stieber that we had on our books a few years ago. Not sure what happened to him.
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I'm guessing it's this Stieber.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zolt%C3%A1n_Stieber
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FA Youth CUP 3rd Round draw:
Peterborough V Aston Villa
Full draw (http://www.thefa.com/Competitions/FACompetitions/TheFAYouthCup/Fixtures)
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Aston Villa U-11s 6 SHA U-11s 3 (7-a-side)
Aston Villa U-11s 4 SHA U-11s 3 (9-a-side)
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Well done the Villa babbies
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PSV on Wednesday night at Villa Park in the NextGen Series should be interesting.
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Zoltan Stieber was at Villa, but has now gone to the Bundesliga, with Greuther Furth I think. Scored a cracker last weekend.
His younger brother Andras is still with us.
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Look out at tonight's PSV NextGen game for the home debut of Jordan Lyden starting in central midfield, another first year academy youngster from Perth in the same mould as Chris Herd
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Team news - Villa U19 v PSV Eindhoven U19 - Kick-off 7pm.
VILLA: Hill, Barton, Bateman, Lyden, Devine, Watkins-Clark, Graham, Carruthers, Drennan, Burke, Grealish. Subs: Ward, Melvin, Crowley, O’Brien, Toner, Calder, Zazrivec.
PSV: Bertrams, Brenet, Koch, Hendrix, Heesakkers, Horsten, Overbeek, Mahmoed, Alberto, Vloet, Bakkali. Subs: Van Vlerken, De Wijs, Noor, Leemans, Verrips, Jakobsen, Sanoh.
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15 mins. 0-0.
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19 mins 1-0 Burke.
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30 mins 1-0.
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1-0 HT.
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60 mins 1-0.
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Some tackles flying in!
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75 mins 1-0.
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83 mins 2-0 Burke.
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Woo-hoo, come on lads!
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83 mins 2-0 Burke.
wasnt it Drennan.............
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Villa U19 2-0 PSV U19 - GOAL - 84 mins: Terrific solo effort from Michael Drennan. The Kilkenny-born marksman sprints down the left wing, skips past PSV skipper Menno Koch before surging into the box and slotting across the goalkeeper.
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere about beating Koch into the box.
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FT 2-0.
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So we now go second in the table then?
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So we now go second in the table then?
Villa's hopes of reaching the last 16 have been boosted signficantly after a superb display against PSV Eindhoven. It means the young guns are up into second place in Group 4 going into the final game against Sporting CP in Lisbon on Wednesday November 28.
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Just looking at the Ajax team that faced Man City last night, I'm sure one or two of them lined up against our lads in last season's NextGen. It makes you realise how talented the kids are at this level.
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A very pleasant evening and not a bad game.
Well done the lads for a good win.
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Just looking at the Ajax team that faced Man City last night, I'm sure one or two of them lined up against our lads in last season's NextGen. It makes you realise how talented the kids are at this level.
True, but we've been waiting a long time for the Bannan generation to make regular first-team appearances.
Do we think Drennan, Burke, etc are ready to step up right now, or even in 12 months' time?
Either Ajax's kids are a cut above or we're not blooding ours early enough ... or Ajax are prepared to take a more of a risk on the youngsters at first team level.
One way or t'other, we seem to struggle a little to get our kids to make the transition (do we make enough use of the loan system for the youngsters or are we relying on the youth leagues too much for their development?)
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The problem has been that we have not made enough use of the loan system over the past 4/5 years. As soon as a player is 18/19 he should be going out on loan and cutting his teeth. Instead we have kept players at VP and praised them for winning the Reserve League, when in fact the majority of teams they have been playing against have been under 18's.
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Just looking at the Ajax team that faced Man City last night, I'm sure one or two of them lined up against our lads in last season's NextGen. It makes you realise how talented the kids are at this level.
True, but we've been waiting a long time for the Bannan generation to make regular first-team appearances.
Do we think Drennan, Burke, etc are ready to step up right now, or even in 12 months' time?
Either Ajax's kids are a cut above or we're not blooding ours early enough ... or Ajax are prepared to take a more of a risk on the youngsters at first team level.
One way or t'other, we seem to struggle a little to get our kids to make the transition (do we make enough use of the loan system for the youngsters or are we relying on the youth leagues too much for their development?)
Yes, the key is in how we blood them. The Bannan generation really have been up against it from the word go and haven't had the luxury of being gently introduced into a winning side of experienced professionals. It's been a tough baptism for those lads but hopefully they and the club will be all the stronger for it.
As for the current crop, if we are doing well in the league come March/April, I would be tempted to get Drennan involved.
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Thought Burke had a great game, clearly MOM. Scored his goal very nicely and after that every time we did a great pass it was him putting it through.
Drennan took the 2nd well too. Thought Grealish was quite good.
Our right-back struggled a bit.
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Thought Burke had a great game, clearly MOM. Scored his goal very nicely and after that every time we did a great pass it was him putting it through.
Drennan took the 2nd well too. Thought Grealish was quite good.
Our right-back struggled a bit.
Yep Burke had a very good game, put some lovely balls through their defence, shows he has an eye for a pass. He did however miss a glorious opportunity to score. The right back I think I heard them say is actually a right midfielder who was filling in so perhaps he can have some leeway. The other player he caught the eye was the No.4, an aussie (forget his name) who slotted into midfield and knitted it all together with ease and composure.
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That would be the one someone mentioned earlier in the thread, Lyden was it?
Fair play to you coming all that way for a Next Gen game Fred. See you both Saturday?
EDIT; yes, Jordan Lyden. Shame it's not John.
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Thought Burke had a great game, clearly MOM. Scored his goal very nicely and after that every time we did a great pass it was him putting it through.
Drennan took the 2nd well too. Thought Grealish was quite good.
Our right-back struggled a bit.
Yep Burke had a very good game, put some lovely balls through their defence, shows he has an eye for a pass. He did however miss a glorious opportunity to score. The right back I think I heard them say is actually a right midfielder who was filling in so perhaps he can have some leeway. The other player he caught the eye was the No.4, an aussie (forget his name) who slotted into midfield and knitted it all together with ease and composure.
Lyden I think.
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Yes - number 4 on Wednesday was Jordan Lyden
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Dear Pauline
I’m delighted to inform you of the Club’s achievement in securing Category One status for our Academy following an independent audit of club youth development programmes, which forms part of the Barclays Premier League’s Elite Player Performance Plan (EPPP).
This is an accolade we can truly be proud of, especially as the Aston Villa Academy emerged No.1 out of every Academy in the country. It is a reflection on the dedication, support and commitment and also the investment in the Academy by the Chairman, Randy Lerner, chief executive Paul Faulkner, the many staff members and support staff and indeed the Club itself. The absolute effort of everyone involved has culminated in this distinction.
The independent audit delved into such criteria as productivity rates, coaching provisions, quality of facilities and education and welfare provisions. The audit conferred upon clubs a Category status of ‘One’ to ‘Four’ – ‘One’ being the most elite. The benefits of securing this status are manifold but the central funding by the Premier League – greater than ever before in youth development programmes and totalling £300million across the country – is significant.
Just as significant, too, is the fact that under the new rules the Club will be able to recruit any player aged 14 and upwards from anywhere in the country. This will be in addition to local talent we recruit, who will join a distinguished group including Gabby Agbonlahor, Mark Walters, Tony Daley, Darius Vassell, Nathan Delfouneso and many others. The full-time education component will enable us to school young players and provide a greater amount of coaching hours to enable them to develop into really elite players.
From 1998, the year that the Premier League’s Academy system was established, through to the 2010-11 season, some 145 players came through the Aston Villa Academy. Of these, 51.7% have played in the Premier League, the Football League or a top league overseas or remained in the Academy. Some 17.2% have played in the Premier League alone and 26.2% in the Football League or a top European league. In the same period we have helped to produce 15 full internationals, as well as many more underage internationals, all of which is testament to the investment we, as a Club, have made in the development of young players.
While we have achieved considerable success at Reserve and Youth team level – and we are progressing well again in this season’s NextGen Series – the most important element will always remain the development of individuals to become Premier League players. We need only look to players who are flourishing presently in our first team squad – Gabby, Ciaran Clark, Andy Weimann, Barry Bannan, Marc Albrighton, Chris Herd, Gary Gardner and Nathan Baker. Naturally, our aim and indeed our challenge will be to maintain and improve when we can our production record and to assist the first team manager with young players coming through the system. We try to do things the right way at Aston Villa and our Academy is a vibrant symbol of the values we espouse.
The continuity and dedication of the staff here is a vital ingredient and the sustained support by the Chairman, chief executive, full-time staff, part-time staff, coaches, physios and support staff has been paramount. The new system will create greater access to players and we will remain fully committed to creating the right environment in which they can strive to excel. Clubs have had to produce facilities the quality of which are far beyond all expectation and belief, even only 10 years ago, with swimming pools, hydrotherapy pools, the highest standard of pitches, etc, now considered essential requirements. The Bodymoor Training Ground embodies these standards overall and it is with immense pleasure that I can relate to you how our Academy continues to lead the way into what we all hope will be a bright and productive future for the Club.
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Best in the land, along with our anti-racism policy and our corporate facilities. Well done to everyone who has contributed.
The people running the club have had some stick lately, but they're getting an awful lot right for which they should be congratulated.
The best thing is, some of our graduates are really starting to show signs of real quality. I fucking love this club.
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I wonder how many other clubs in the country have this Category One status? Having the pick of the best current 14 year olds from anywhere in the UK is quite encouraging.
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The coaching team in charge of the U-11s are abysmal.
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It's definitely something to be proud of but there is a darker side to this. This article (http://blogs.birminghampost.net/sport/2012/07/blues-handed-category-two-eppp.html) for example starts out very well. The noses have been assessed at category 2. However it goes on to quote chairmen from lower leagues saying that this is a ploy from the big clubs to allow them to cherry pick the best youngsters at a fraction of the price they'd have to pay at the moment. There's also some suggestions that it could make academies at lower level clubs uneconomical and that some clubs will do away with them. I'm all for doing everything we can to increase our competitiveness but I'm not comfortable if that means pushing smaller clubs to the wall. If it's more than just scaremongering from these chairmen then I think it's an example of very short term thinking from the Premier League.
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The coaching team in charge of the U-11s are abysmal.
Why? Based on what?
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Based on the fact that I go and watch them every Sunday.
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And so what makes you think they are abysmal? I'm not arguing with you as I don't watch them, just looking for more detailed explanation.
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The lack of any actual coaching or instructions during the game. The lack of interest shown. The use of mobile telephones for text messaging when the game is in progress. The lack of development shown by the players. The players not being told what they are doing right/wrong.
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On a more positive note, when Ben Petty and Mark Delaney were more actively involved with them last season they were the bees-knees.
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That sounds a bit rubbish to be honest. Maybe the club should be told?
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And so what makes you think they are abysmal? I'm not arguing with you as I don't watch them, just looking for more detailed explanation.
Just re-read what I wrote in a rush earlier today. Apologies if I came across as being an arse.
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Team news - Villa U21 v Sunderland U21 - Kick-off 7pm.
VILLA: Hill, Barton, Williams, Stieber, Devine, Donacien, Albrighton, Carruthers, Drennan, Burke, Graham. Subs: Bateman, Barrett, Lyden, Melvin, Ward.
SUNDERLAND: Wilson, Marrs, Adams, Reed, Oliver, Ferguson, Mitchell, Gorrin, Laidler, Deacon, Lynch. Subs: Joyce, Dixon, Armstrong, Harrison, Mandron.
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Lovely goal from Albrighton.
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Villa U21 1-0 Sunderland U21 - GOAL - 8 mins: A superb strike from Marc Albrighton to open the scoring for Villa. Samir Carruthers picked out the winger with a superb cross-field ball. Albrighton took one touch to control before unleashing a looping half-volley into the far corner.
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2-0. Burke
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2-0. Burke
I wonder if mon is in attendance ? I doubt it .
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No mention of MoN.
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Villa U21 2-0 Sunderland U21 - GOAL - 13 mins: Graham Burke has added a second for Villa. The move was started by Jordan Graham on the left wing. He held on to the ball before laying off to Burke on the edge of the area. The Irish striker powered a drive at goal and it found the bottom corner with the aid of a slight deflection off Connor Oliver.
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I take it you guys are watching on avtv?
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I take it you guys are watching on avtv?
We are.
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I take it you guys are watching on avtv?
We are.
Keep the updates coming Pauline, mrs east is in control of the remote and in soap heaven , and I am on the ipad. The prospect of listening to Woodward is too much to contemplate on a Monday night.
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Will do, Eastie.
Woodward's voice does grate but I'm managing to somehow not listen to his droning.
We shall catch up with the soaps after the game.
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Albrighton has looked poor lately so if he has a few decent games it will boost his confidence , he looks a shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago.
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2- bloody 1
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2-1 at half time.
Off for some half time refreshments.
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2- bloody 1
I blame MON, Habib Beye and Emile Heskey..........
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Villa 2-1 Sunderland - GOAL - 45 mins: Sunderland are back in it thanks to Alex Gorrin's close-range effort. Blair Adams motored down the left and got the better of Josh Barton. He crossed into the six-yard box and Gorrin was on hand to fire into the roof of the net.
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Christ, this stream is so bad, it serves as an advert for illegal ones.
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Finishes 2-1.
Sunderland really came back into the game in the second half, so much so our keeper, Craig Hill, was named MotM.
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The lack of any actual coaching or instructions during the game. The lack of interest shown. The use of mobile telephones for text messaging when the game is in progress. The lack of development shown by the players. The players not being told what they are doing right/wrong.
Really? I'm staggered, that's awful. I coach a local U10 side and would never act like that - and I'd assume Villa U11 coaches to have much higher standards!
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The lack of any actual coaching or instructions during the game. The lack of interest shown. The use of mobile telephones for text messaging when the game is in progress. The lack of development shown by the players. The players not being told what they are doing right/wrong.
Really? I'm staggered, that's awful. I coach a local U10 side and would never act like that - and I'd assume Villa U11 coaches to have much higher standards!
Are U11 players actually signed up to Villa or are these matches effectively for scouting/talent spotting?
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Signed up. The compensation payouts are unbelievable. £9000 for the U-11s before Christmas then it rises to £49,000 if they wish to move on.
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Signed up. The compensation payouts are unbelievable. £9000 for the U-11s before Christmas then it rises to £49,000 if they wish to move on.
The lack of coaching is poor. Like someone else said, If you see it again the club should be told. I'd bet even at that level the coaches are paid a salary that should demand their attention.
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It's certainly counter-intuitive to what is supposed to be the best academy in the country.
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I couldn't care less what they do as long as they keep producing the type of player we've seen for the past ten years and more.
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I couldn't care less what they do as long as they keep producing the type of player we've seen for the past ten years and more.
I could. If they carry on with that style and approach I very much doubt if they'll produce that sort of player.
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Posted in the wrong place!
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I couldn't care less what they do as long as they keep producing the type of player we've seen for the past ten years and more.
I could. If they carry on with that style and approach I very much doubt if they'll produce that sort of player.
But they do, regularly and for a long time. That's what makes me wonder how credible this story is.
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Oh, right. So you doubt my word based on first-hand experience? I go there near enough every Sunday and I have witnessed it on numerous occasions.
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If you've seen it that's fair enough but they still seem to produce a string of quality players so they must do something right.
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Perhaps there has been a change of coaching personnel at this age group in the last couple of years?
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They are changed around every now and again, particularly at the start of the season.
A welcome change in coaching staff today.
Game 1: W 6-0
Game 2: W 4-2
Info texted to me whilst I was enduring a Christening.
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Team news - Manchester United U21 v Villa U21 - kick-off 7pm.
MAN UTD: Sutherland, Veseli, James, Ekagamene, McCullough, Fornasier, Bebe, Hendrie, Henriquez, Januzaj, Lawrence. Subs: Barmby, Gollini, Daehli, Grimshaw, Love.
VILLA: Hill, Barton, Webb, Ward, Donacien, Williams, Graham, Carruthers, Drennan, Burke, Grealish. Subs: Watkins-Clark, Barrett, Melvin, Kinsella.
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United have the very talented Adnan Januzaj playing tonight. Remember that name. He could be quite a player in the future. Jack Barmby (son of Nicky) is also a good prospect.
We have some good ball players in our side with Graham, Grealish and Burke all very comfortable on the ball.
Nice to see Josh Webb and Lewis Kinsella back after long injury breaks. They both played a half in the U18s on saturday.
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HT - Man Utd U21 0-0 Villa U21 - All square after a quiet first-half at Altrincham. Both keepers made a couple of great saves. Villa's Craig Hill kept up his superb form by thwarting Tom Lawrence on two occasions. United's Jonathan Sutherland tipped a Michael Drennan free-kick around the post before holding a Jack Grealish header. Bebe also had a decent opportunity for the home side but dragged his left-foot shot into the side-netting.
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Thanks for the updates chaps. After the heavy defeat to them at reserve level last year it'll be interesting to see how our youngsters fare against them without the disadvantage of facing a clutch of full international ringers.
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Man Utd U21 0-1 Villa U21 - GOAL - Jordan Graham has broken the deadlock from the penalty spot. The winger made a terrific run into the box before being chopped down by Reece James on the byline. He stepped up and sent keeper Jonathan Sutherland the wrong way.
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FT - Man Utd U21 0-1 Villa U21 - Villa earn a deserved victory at Moss Lane. This result takes them up to second in Group 2 of the Barclays U21 Premier League. Jordan Graham's penalty proved to be the match-winning strike. United had a chance late on with Frederic Veseli volleying over from just inside the box but Gordon Cowans' team were good value for the three points.
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Looks good on the face of it. Unfortunately it sounds like half of the United side are playing for the seniors tomorrow night.
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We were missing some big players too. Gary Gardner, Dan Johnson... etc
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Fuck me, we can't do fuck all right for some people.
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The comment was made after reading the match report on the OS where they had said that United were fielding an inexperienced side as most of their U21 side has gone over to Turkey. It wasn't meant as a dig - you still have to beat whatever's put in front of you and I'm sure United could have re-arranged if they had wanted to. And now we've won that gives us a great chance of qualifying above the line when the league splits at Christmas.
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Ok, fair enough.
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We put out a team containing 7 U18's and never looked like losing!
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Can I just say that I like this new format. It stops players getting too clogged up waiting for games and encourages players to go on loan. With this end I think Villa need to arrange some sort of tie in with some teams to ensure everyone is playing the right number and correct level of competitive games.
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Sean Verity insists Villa's youngsters have no reason to fear Sporting Clube de Portugal as they prepare for tonight's crucial NextGen Series clash.
The boys in claret and blue go into the final Group 4 fixture in Lisbon knowing a victory would guarantee qualification for the knockout stages.
A draw or a defeat could open the door for PSV Eindhoven and Celtic, who face each other at the Philips Stadion this evening.
Villa currently occupy second place in Group 4.
The top two sides in each group are guaranteed a spot in the last 16, with the four best third placed teams also qualifying.
Verity believes Villa showed against PSV earlier this month that they are capable of matching the best sides in the competition.
But he knows the young lions face a formidable task against one of the tournament favourites.
"We have put ourselves right in the hunt with the PSV result," said coach Verity.
"Sporting are a good team. They are probably the best we have played out of the six or seven opponents we've had including last year.
"But we are more than capable of matching anybody if we do the stuff we did against PSV.
"If we are keep the ball and create as well as did against a disciplined PSV then we can do that to anybody.
"We have got the belief that we can do it to anyone."
Villa began this season's NextGen Series with defeats against Sporting and PSV.
However, they kickstarted their campaign by beating Celtic at Villa Park before earning a draw in the return fixture.
The 2-0 success over PSV put them firmly in the shake-up for qualificiation.
Tonight's game kicks off at 6.30pm.
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Sadly watching Liverpool v dortmund in the NextGen. 1-0 Liverpool. I'll stop watching now...I'll watch this Liverpool pen though. ooooh what a dive. 2-0.
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We're 1 up at half time against Sporting. Donacien on 10 minutes. The only coverage I've found so far is a couple of posts on Villa's official Facebook thing.
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We're 1 up at half time against Sporting. Donacien on 10 minutes. The only coverage I've found so far is a couple of posts on Villa's official Facebook thing.
I saw that, Carruthers playing apparently. Would be interested to hear how he's getting on.
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Team news - Sporting CP U19 v Villa U19 (kick-off 6.30pm).
SPORTING CP: Meira, Martins, Fokobo, Semedo, Tavares, Stojanovic, Podence, Ie, Mane, Cortez, Medeiros. Subs: Oliveira, Cande, Ribeiro, Geraldes, Rosa, Ponde, Santos.
VILLA: Hill, Barton, Donacien, Webb, Bateman, Graham, Melvin, Carruthers, Grealish, Burke, Drennan. Subs: Watkins-Clark, Watkins, Kinsella, Lyden, Calder, Crowley, Eminoglu.
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I know Lambert wants all age groups playing the same formation at all age levels so did they all change to 4-2-3-1 when the seniors did?
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GOAL - Sporting CP U19 0-2 Villa U19 (Michael Drennan, 47).
If we win this one I believe we're through, this was the table at the start:
Sporting P 5 GD 5 PTS 12
Villa P 5 GD 0 PTS 7
PSV P 5 GD -4 PTS 6
Celtic P 5 GD -1 PTS 4
I can't comment on formations. I've not seen enough of them but there's 1 or 2 on here that go regularly. Hopefully one of them will be able to answer.
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GOAL - Sporting CP U19 0-3 Villa U19 (Graham Burke, 55)
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GOAL - Sporting CP U19 1-3 Villa U19 (Santos, 75).
GOAL - Sporting CP U19 1-4 Villa U19 (Graham Burke, 78).
It's a shame it's not covered anywhere it sounds like a good game.
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For those not on Facebook although I'm sure there'll be something on the OS soon:
GOAL - Sporting CP U19 1-5 Villa U19 (Michael Drennan, 88).
Full-time: Sporting CP U19 1-5 Villa U19: Villa are through to the knockout stages of the NextGen Series for the second year running after a stunning performance in Lisbon. Two goals each for Michael Drennan and Graham Burke, along with a Janoi Donacien strike, ensured Villa qualify as the second-placed team in Group 4. They join the likes of Sporting, Barcelona, CSKA Moscow and Rosenborg in the last 16.
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1-5 to the Villa babbies. We finish second!
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Excellent. Well done.
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When do we find out who we get next?
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When do we find out who we get next?
I doubt we'll know for a while. There's still 8 games left to play including one on the 19th, details can be found here (http://www.nextgenseries.com/FixturesResultsTables).
Manchester City, Celtic, Vfl Wolfsburg and Borussia Dortmund are all out.
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Thanks RJP
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That's an astonishing result. Sportings youth side are fantastic. One of the best around.
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Maybe we'll play Moscow and send the kids.
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Get the fuck IN!
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Bollox!
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5-1 away from home.
Well done lads, great result!
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Sounds like an excellent performance. Any chance Sporting put out weaker team as they were guaranteed top spot?
Either way it's been a very good recovery from the first couple of games.
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That really was a stunning result. This team has some great individual players but has been slightly under par this season.
The formation would be very similar to the way the first team is set out but with players more comfortable playing in those positions, obviously at their own level.
Basically the two widemen Grealish and Graham are proper wingers who also carry a goal threat.
Gabby and Andy Weiman are not natural wide players and are less likely to beat a man and cross the ball.
Graham Burke is very comfortable playing behind the striker and Samir and Malky Melvin are both very competitive midfield players.
We have a serious chance in the FA Youth cup this season as well.
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And this was without Johnson, who is arguably our most influential player at this level.
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I would have thought Gary Gardner will be ready to start running in the next month or so too.
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Isn't this a younger than usual team as well, with a lot more first years?
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Isn't this a younger than usual team as well, with a lot more first years?
Certainly seemed like it at the home game against Sporting.
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I would have thought Gary Gardner will be ready to start running in the next month or so too.
He said on twitter yesterday that he can start running TODAY!
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That lad is due some serious amounts of luck.
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Sounds like an excellent performance. Any chance Sporting put out weaker team as they were guaranteed top spot?
No, Sporting put out their best team but on all accounts, Villa were up for it and Sporting couldn't cope.
Can't believe I forgot about this game, I'd been looking forward to it for months.
Ironically, there has been a delegation from Zenit St Petersburg at Sporting this week to look at their Academy as it's viewed as one of the best in Europe.
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Has this result been mentioned in any depth by the national media? I read something where we got one line and the Liverpool game was the featured article along with Man City's exit. The fact that we just battered a very good academy side seemingly has been glossed over because we are not Arsenal, Man U or Man City it seems. I really hope the kids can do themselves proud in the knock out stages.
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I would have thought Gary Gardner will be ready to start running in the next month or so too.
He said on twitter yesterday that he can start running TODAY!
When he had the original injury I thought he would be running again in December. I wasn't far off.
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When's the draw?
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I'd prefer to win.
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Has this result been mentioned in any depth by the national media? I read something where we got one line and the Liverpool game was the featured article along with Man City's exit. The fact that we just battered a very good academy side seemingly has been glossed over because we are not Arsenal, Man U or Man City it seems. I really hope the kids can do themselves proud in the knock out stages.
I hear your point but it could actually be looked at as a good thing. We need more of these players to actually break through to the first team rather than win youth cups. Obviously these accolades are a great measure of progress along the way but they're not the actual objective and could draw the attention of agents and bigger clubs.
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Sounds like an excellent performance. Any chance Sporting put out weaker team as they were guaranteed top spot?
No, Sporting put out their best team but on all accounts, Villa were up for it and Sporting couldn't cope.
Can't believe I forgot about this game, I'd been looking forward to it for months.
Ironically, there has been a delegation from Zenit St Petersburg at Sporting this week to look at their Academy as it's viewed as one of the best in Europe.
Thanks Mark. Even more impressive then.
Sorry you missed the game. I'd like them to get Ossett Town in the next round.
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Has this result been mentioned in any depth by the national media? I read something where we got one line and the Liverpool game was the featured article along with Man City's exit. The fact that we just battered a very good academy side seemingly has been glossed over because we are not Arsenal, Man U or Man City it seems. I really hope the kids can do themselves proud in the knock out stages.
I hear your point but it could actually be looked at as a good thing. We need more of these players to actually break through to the first team rather than win youth cups. Obviously these accolades are a great measure of progress along the way but they're not the actual objective and could draw the attention of agents and bigger clubs.
with all due respect Dante I don't buy that. Success breeds success and we need to win things. These players need to know that they can win things at Aston Villa and be a part of the future and not have to be tempted elsewhere. I think sometimes as a club and fans we are our own worst enemy. We downplay ourselves too much and play the submissive. Look at the Benteke thread for examples of people shitting themselves that our new centre forward is doing so well and is therefore off in two years. Or when Lambert joined us, he was the next coming of Sir Graham and he was going to be the next Dortmund manager. I want those kids to learn how to win so they bring that mentality with them as they graduate to the next level. Hopefully that's with us, though off course that bit is never guaranteed.
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Sorry Lambo, I did not make my point very clearly (or probably at all). I want us to win things, I was referring to the lack of media attention. It might be a good thing that the media are focusing on Man City and Liverpool as it means we can get on with things.
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The U21's just beat Newcastle 3-2 away.
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Mickey the Cat Drennan is at it again. Goal machine.
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Hat-trick?
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Burke, Drennan and Carruthers.
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Team news - Villa U21 v Manchester Utd U21 - 7pm.
VILLA: Barrett, Watkins-Clark, Devine, Donacien, Lewis, Barton, Johnson, Carruthers, Stieber, Burke, Drennan. Subs: Robinson, Watkins, O’Brien, Sellars, Cowans.
MAN UTD: Sutherland, Vermijl, Buttner, Thorpe, Wootton, Tunnicliffe, Bebe, Powell, Macheda, Petrucci, Cole. Subs: McGinty, Gollini, Veseli, Lawrence, Fornasier.
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Villa U21 0-0 Man Utd U21 - 15 mins: It's all Villa in the early stages. Daniel Johnson dragged a shot wide after a neat move involving Graham Burke and Andras Stieber down the left. Burke then glided past United midfielder Tony Thorpe before picking out Stieber in space but the Hungarian winger opted to cross rather than shoot. A poor clearance from goalkeeper Jonathan Sutherland was siezed upon by Burke whose volley deflected wide.
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Villa U21 0-0 Man Utd U21 - 30 mins: Villa still on top. United keeper Jonathan Sutherland made a great save, getting down to push away Graham Burke's effort from a tight angle after a surging run inside from the right by the Villa forward.
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Villa U21 0-0 Man Utd U21 - HT - A good response from the visitors towards the end of the half. Davide Petrucci miscued with a near post volley from Alexander Buttner's cross, while Tom Thorpe headed wide from a corner. But overall Villa can be happy with their first-half performance.
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It's live on MUTV if anybody's interested.
Villa unchanged for 2nd half.
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Bebe scores for the Gloryhunters.
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I didn't know Sid Jr. was on our books.
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FT - Villa U21 0-2 Man Utd U21 - Defeat for Villa in the Barclays U21 Premier League. It means they must beat leaders Tottenham at Hinckley next week in their final game to finish top of Group 2. United were the better side after the break with goals from Bebe and Macheda enough to give them three points.
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Must admit, our boys looked like boys compared to the beefed up Gloryhunting, cheating, dirty, ref protected.. everything you expect from Man Utd.
We'll need at least a draw against Spurs.
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There was quite a bit of experience for this age group in their team and we had left some of our key players out because we have an FA Youth Cup game on Wednesday.
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Must admit, our boys looked like boys compared to the beefed up Gloryhunting, cheating, dirty, ref protected.. everything you expect from Man Utd.
We'll need at least a draw against Spurs.
We've got to beat Spurs to finish top.
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Finish top... It's only December? I'm confused.
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There are 2 stages to the developmental league. Going forward the top teams from each group go into another group. I think the bottom sides go into their own group but I'm not sure on that.
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Villa's FA Youth Cup clash at Peterborough, due to be played this evening, is OFF.
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Damn it. I was going to watch it too.
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From the OS
Villa and Tottenham Hotspur will battle it out to finish top of the pile in Group 2 of the Barclays U21 Premier League at Villa Park tonight.
The match is being screened live on AVTV as the two sides look to round off the first phase of the competition in style.
It is first against third in the final match before the leagues are restructured in the New Year.
Tottenham are currently in first place with Villa just two points behind in third position.
But a victory for Gordon Cowans' men would see them leapfrog the north London outfit and guarantee top spot.
Both clubs could still qualify for the Elite Stage regardless of tonight's result although they will be determined to do so with a final flourish.
If the reverse fixture at White Hart Lane is anything to go be, a cracking contest is in store.
It finished 3-3 when the teams met back in October. Jordan Bowery, Graham Burke and Samir Carruthers scored for Villa, while Tottenham's goals came from Jonathan Obika [2] and Kevin Stewart.
Watch all the action from tonight's game LIVE on AVTV from 7pm.
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Come on you Villa babbies!
Team news - Villa U21 v Tottenham U21.
VILLA: Hill, Donacien, Williams, Carruthers, Webb, Johnson, Albrighton, Bowery, Drennan, Burke, Stieber. Subs: Barton, Barrett, Lewis, Grealish.
TOTTENHAM: Vigoroux, Fredericks, Bartram, Luongo, Hall, Mason, Carroll, Parker, O'Brien, Townsend, Falque. Subs: Coulibaly, Priestley, Stewart, Gallifuoco.
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Interesting we've stuck Albrighton in.
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They don't do commentaries on AVTV then?! - weird.
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They don't do commentaries on AVTV then?! - weird.
Ahh, brief verbal glimpses of Woodw***; perhaps there's a technical problem.
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Bowery looks quick, if indeed he piays at 9.
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The bad news is that Albie looks about at his level here.
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Villa U21 0-1 Tottenham U21 - GOAL - 31 mins: Spurs have taken the lead in this top-of-the-table clash. Jack Barthram collected Andras Townsend's pass down the left. He crossed into the six-yard box and Ryan Mason was on hand to force it over the line.
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good to hear Paul Faulkner talking during the first 30 minutes of the game ... perhaps he'll realise just how naff JW is.
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Albrighton really has been rather poor, and Villa are 2-0 down (Scott Parker scoring the second on the 43rd minute).
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JW keeps saying that's a good effort by villa - the fact that it is about 4 yards over the bar as the keeper watches it seems irrelevant!
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Villa U21 0-3 Tottenham U21 - GOAL - 78 mins: Andros Townsend made yet another dangerous run down the left. Janoi Donacien desperately tried to intercept his cross but could only divert it past Craig Hill. Substitute Souleymane Coulibaly was on hand to make sure it went over the line.
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Villa U21 0-3 Tottenham U21 - FT - Defeat for Villa means they miss out on the Elite Group Stage. Gordon Cowans' team will now go into Qualification Group 1 of the Barclays U21 Premier League in the New Year.
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Scott fucking Parker?
At least our ringer came through our academy.
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The Youth team got beat 4-0 by Peterborough in the 3rd Round of the FA Youth cup tonight.
I'm off to bed.
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The Youth team got beat 4-0 by Peterborough in the 3rd Round of the FA Youth cup tonight.
I'm off to bed.
Fucking hell. Has Lambert got us playing the same system throughout the club?
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Yes.
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What system is that? Because looking at the players on Tuesday night the front 4 especially certainly didn't seem to know what they were supposed to do.
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Must admit my post was a bit of a piss-take.
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Villa U21 0-1 Middlesbrough U21 - 60 mins: Much better from Villa. Andras Stieber cut in from the left and unleashed a shot which was tipped around the post by Connor Ripley. Boro have brought on Jordan Jones for Curtis Main.
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And team news.
Team news - Villa U21 v Middlesbrough U21 - KO 1.30pm.
VILLA: Barrett, Donacien, Devine, Williams, Kinsella, Barton, Carruthers, Johnson, Stieber, Burke, Drennan. Subs: Bateman, Hill, Graham, Ward, Melvin.
MIDDLESBROUGH: Ripley, Bennett, Weldon, Oliver, Burgess, Jackson, Brobbel, Morris, Main, Edwards, Williams. Subs: Kneeshaw, Coddington, Jones, Fewster, Atkinson.
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1-0 down at the mo
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1-1 Johnson Pen
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Villa U21 1-1 Middlesbrough U21 - GOAL - 72 mins: Daniel Johnson has equalised from the penalty spot. Johnson raced on to Michael Drennan's flick-on but was tripped by Christian Burgess. He got up to slot home the penalty.
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Villa U21 1-2 Middlesbrough U21 - GOAL - 84 mins: A superb strike by substitute Jordan Jones from just inside the box has put Boro back in front.
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1-3
I think it's only the womens team who are actually able to win a game at the moment
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1-3
I think it's only the womens team who are actually able to win a game at the moment
Give them a go in the first team then!
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Aston Villa U11s 2 Bristol City U11s 0 (Game 1)
Aston Villa U11s 6 Bristol City U11s 0 (Game 2)
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Interesting aswell that there was strictly no access at all to the main part of the training complex to anyone but the players. All parents and supporters had to park in the lower and middle bays only.
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U-21s beat Blackburn 2-0.
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Team news - Sunderland U21 v Villa U21 - ko 1.15pm.
SUNDERLAND: Wilson, Marrs, Ferguson, Laidler, Harrison, McNamee, Mitchell, Gorrin, Noble, Mandron, Lynch. Subs: Beadling, Dixon, Joyce, Honeyman.
VILLA: Siegrist, Barton, Webb, Donacien, Williams, Stieber, Carruthers, Johnson, Grealish, Drennan, Burke. Subs: Graham, Barrett, Crooks, Lewis.
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U18s tatered Man City's elite super duper development teenage aqua hunger force by the way. 5 - 2.
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Why do they play these games in the afternoon ?
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Sunderland U21 0-0 Villa U21 - HT - All square at the break after a tight first period at the Academy of Light. Villa's best chance fell to Graham Burke, who volleyed over from the edge of the box. Goalkeeper Benjamin Siegrist was called into action again before the break, diving to his left to tip behind Craig Lynch's curling shot.
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Why do they play these games in the afternoon ?
Their mom's don't let them stay out late on a school night.
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@AVFCOfficial: Sunderland 0-1 Villa - GOAL - 65 mins: Michael Drennan races on to a through ball from Samr Carruthers and slots past the keeper. #AVFC
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@AVFCOfficial: Sunderland 0-2 Villa - GOAL - 70 mins: Brilliant skill from Graham Burke to round the keeper and double Villa's advantage. #AVFC
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Drennan and Burke. Like a prolific Irish footballing Batman and Robin.
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@AVFCOfficial: Sunderland 0-3 Villa - GOAL - 75 mins: Michael Drennan controls Jordan Graham's cross on his chest before converting form close range. #AVFC
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@AVFCOfficial: Sunderland 0-4 Villa - GOAL - 77 mins: It's a hat-trick for Michael Drennan! He steps up and scores straight from a free-kick. #AVFC
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IT'S SHITTING GOALS!
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@AVFCOfficial: FT - Sunderland U21 0-4 Villa U21. #AVFC
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FT. 0-4
Drennan scores a hattrick, gets an assist and has one chalked off.
Not bad work.
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What position does Drennan play? Striker?
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Yes.
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Yes.
Cheers.
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Young Irish lad from Kilkenny (the ancient hunting grounds of my mother's people).
Something of a fox in the box like Weimann. Scored a shitload over the last year or so.
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Sounds very promising.
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Have a friend who's watched a lot of football at that level and he raves about Drennan, like Benteke he always seems to find a yard of space in the box. Lets hope he carries on progressing well.
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Can he play in midfield? Or centre-half?
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No.
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Okay. Can he defend corners?
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Drennan's improved a lot this year since he lost some bulk last summer.
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Samir Carruthers got very good reviews playing for the Irish u-21s during the week. Pointless having him playing reserve football and looks a long way down the queue for first team action. Surely a loan move would help his development far more than playing underage football?
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I would be looking to loan the likes of Johnson, Carruthers, Williams, Devine, Siegrist, Burke, Donacien etc. It's nice to keep the group together and so on but the best education they'll get is in meaningful action.
From what I can observe and from what I've learned, the quality is improving down the age groups so these players in their late teens need to be ready to push for a first team squad place or they'll be caught by those behind them.
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I think you've got say hats off to the academy. Without the constant stream of players coming through over the last 10 years, we'd be in some real trouble.
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Jordan Graham has been ruled out for the season. Shame for the kid, looks a talent.
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That is a blow. Very promising player.
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Jordan Graham has been ruled out for the season. Shame for the kid, looks a talent.
Oh FFS!
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Aston Villa U11s 1 Coventry City 1 (Game 1)
Aston Villa U11s 8 Coventry City 3 (Game 2)
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Just thought I'd also mention that even at this level, the players are now actively being coached to keep it narrow and play through the middle as opposed to with width when Houllier and TSM were in charge.
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Good to know. I just wish they would coach our kids variety so that they could play through the middle but also have times where they use width.
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Thet's the issue, though. Previously it was almost always just with width now it is almost exclusively through the middle. Very little variation. Seemed to work well today, mind.
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When is the Ajax game?
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Tomorrow. 19:00 KO. Away.
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Tomorrow. 19:00 KO. Away.
Thanks
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Ajax U19 v Villa U19 team news - (ko 7pm local time/6pm BST).
AJAX: Van der Hart, Tete, Gravenberch, Riedewald, Rosheuvel, Boccara, Lazic, Anderson, Bitter, El Hasnaoui, De Sa. Subs: Alblas, Van den Boomen, Noordhoff, Keskin, Kuipers, De Bondt, Becker.
VILLA: Watkins, Webb, Kinsella, Lyden, Lewis, Williams, Barton, Carruthers, Drennan, Burke, Grealish. Subs: Bateman, Toner, Calder, Crowley, Abdo, Crooks.
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Ajax U19 v Villa U19 team news - (ko 7pm local time/6pm BST).
AJAX: Van der Hart, Tete, Gravenberch, Riedewald, Rosheuvel, Boccara, Lazic, Anderson, Bitter, El Hasnaoui, De Sa. Subs: Alblas, Van den Boomen, Noordhoff, Keskin, Kuipers, De Bondt, Becker.
VILLA: Watkins, Webb, Kinsella, Lyden, Lewis, Williams, Barton, Carruthers, Drennan, Burke, Grealish. Subs: Bateman, Toner, Calder, Crowley, Abdo, Crooks.
Any way of keeping tabs on the game Legion?
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Ajax U19 1-0 Villa U19 - GOAL - 14 mins: Djavan Anderson.
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Ajax U19 1-0 Villa U19 - GOAL - 14 mins: Djavan Anderson.
Cheers. Tweeting furiously i take it ?
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No. Can't stand Twitter.
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Ajax U19 1-1 Villa U19 - GOAL - 35 mins: Michael Drennan.
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Nice one. Just checked a few dodgy places to find coverage. All shite.
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Is their goalkeeper the product of an ex-Man United goalkeeper and the current Man City keeper?
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1-2!
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Lewis.
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Get in. Hope Lambert has an eye on this game ffs.
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Great result, well done lads.
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Great stuff by the young guns, the proper young guns.
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What a great result to come from behind and beat Ajax's youth team on their own muck 'eap.
Well done lads.
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This lad drennan seems to be an exciting prospect , i havent seen him play but could he be the jewel in our future crown?
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Do we know who we get in the next round?
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Do we know who we get in the next round?
I'm sure I read somewhere that we played the winners of the PSG/Spurs tie, but I can't find where I read it or anything else confirming that. Anyway if we do, Spurs won on pens in Paris tonight.
Sporting Lisbon beat Liverpool 4-0 and Chelsea won 2-0 away to Barcelona.
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Oh I'd assumed it was over 2 legs, are we through against Ajax then?
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Decent highlights here:
http://www.ajaxshowtime.com/bijzaken-en-geruchten/68480/hoogtepunten-ajax-a1-aston-villa-a1.html
Fantastic finish by Drennan for our first.
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Whos the No 10?
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Whos the No 10?
Graham Burke.
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Looks a nice little footballer.
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Thanks for posting
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Think Burke has played on the wing whenever I've seen the youth team play, seems more suited to the hole behind the main striker, judging by that video. Thanks for posting it up.
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A few robust challenges in there. Nice second goal.
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Can see myself sitting in the stand there ;D. Great battling performance from the boys despite going one down. Great set up over there with a crackin little bar/cafe ;)
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Burke & Drennan look great prospects.
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Villa drawn at home v Olympiacos or RSC Anderlecht in Next Gen quarter final.
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Villa drawn at home v Olympiacos or RSC Anderlecht in Next Gen quarter final.
Excellent, bring em on!
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Here's the full draw:
Chelsea vs. Juventus/Rosenborg BK
Tottenham Hotspur vs. Sporting CP
Aston Villa FC vs Olympiacos/RSC Anderlecht
Inter Milan/Arsenal FC vs. CSKA Moscow/PSV Eindhoven
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On a positive, good to see so many English clubs in that draw. maybe the future of English football is brighter than we think.
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On a positive, good to see so many English clubs in that draw. maybe the future of English football is brighter than we think.
I wonder how many English players Chelsea have in their starting XI youth team.
I'm betting none.
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All the quarter finals are going to be on Eurosport, apparently.
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On a positive, good to see so many English clubs in that draw. maybe the future of English football is brighter than we think.
I wonder how many English players Chelsea have in their starting XI youth team.
I'm betting none.
U-21s (http://www.chelseafc.com/player-index/category/4506)
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Academy (http://www.chelseafc.com/player-index/category/3562)
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Who are the favourites to win the competition?
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On a positive, good to see so many English clubs in that draw. maybe the future of English football is brighter than we think.
I wonder how many English players Chelsea have in their starting XI youth team.
I'm betting none.
You're wrong as long as my Chelsea supporting mate can be believed. He says six of the starting XI in their last Next Gen game were English born, and one Scottish.
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On a positive, good to see so many English clubs in that draw. maybe the future of English football is brighter than we think.
I wonder how many English players Chelsea have in their starting XI youth team.
I'm betting none.
You're wrong as long as my Chelsea supporting mate can be believed. He says six of the starting XI in their last Next Gen game were English born, and one Scottish.
I've been derailed from the original question by the revelation that you have a Chelsea supporting friend.
:-(
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On a positive, good to see so many English clubs in that draw. maybe the future of English football is brighter than we think.
I wonder how many English players Chelsea have in their starting XI youth team.
I'm betting none.
You're wrong as long as my Chelsea supporting mate can be believed. He says six of the starting XI in their last Next Gen game were English born, and one Scottish.
I've been derailed from the original question by the revelation that you have a Chelsea supporting friend.
:-(
Yeah sorry, but to his credit he is from Dulwich.
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Perhaps Damon know him. When is the nextgen quarter final? I will pop down if I can.
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Perhaps Damon know him. When is the nextgen quarter final? I will pop down if I can.
Don't think it's been arranged yet, chelts.
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It's a pity we're not in a more comfortable position so we could give the likes of Drennan the odd half hour here and there.
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It's a pity we're not in a more comfortable position so we could give the likes of Drennan the odd half hour here and there.
Have you seen him clampy, i am hearing good things about him but havent seen him live yet, d you think he will be better than weimann.?
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Academy (http://www.chelseafc.com/player-index/category/3562)
NORTEI NORTEY?! Is he the son of Ebeneezer Goode?!
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Academy (http://www.chelseafc.com/player-index/category/3562)
NORTEI NORTEY?! Is he the son of Ebeneezer Goode?!
What a fantastic name, just for that I hope he makes it.
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Academy (http://www.chelseafc.com/player-index/category/3562)
NORTEI NORTEY?! Is he the son of Ebeneezer Goode?!
A proper player, apparently. According to Danny Dyer.
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Shame that we couldn't keep Anderlecht for the semi-final.
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Shame that we couldn't keep Anderlecht for the semi-final.
Think their match with Olympiacos is tomorrow.
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Olympiacos and Anderlecht - from the NextGen website:-
This season all the new teams seemed to outdo expectations, but perhaps the ones that stand out are these two. Olympiacos managed to finish top of an extremely competitive group featuring Arsenal, Marseille and Athletic Club, thanks largely to their organised defence.
It was another outstanding left-back, Charalambos Lykogiannis, who was crucial to this. The 19-year-old, known as Lykos (wolf), was brought in to shore up the Greek side’s defence after their 4 – 0 loss to Athletic Club, since then they have conceded just one. The support of Karagounis and Vouros has also been instrumental and Anderlecht will have a task on their hands trying to score here. Olympiacos’ only cause for slight concern may be their lack of goals, having scored just four so far.
Anderlecht’s defence has also proven vital to their success; they have conceded only six despite having played: Barcelona, Tottenham and Wolfsburg each twice; Olympiacos will have to deliver quality up front. Centre-back Michael Heylen seldom lets a forward get the better of him, and has impressed throughout with performances such as their 1 - 1 draw away to Barcelona (click for highlights). Up front the Belgian side have threats in Dendoncker and Kabasele who can stretch defences.
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Olympiacos it is, they beat Anderlecht 2-1.
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anyone know when it is,and are we home or away?
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anyone know when it is,and are we home or away?
It's at home, date to be arranged.
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There will be a good away following for that one.
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Olympiacos it is, they beat Anderlecht 2-1.
Video of the game. http://www.olympiacos.org/en/tv/video
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NextGen Quarter Finals (no dates yet):-
Arsenal v PFC CSKA Moscow
Aston Villa v Olympiacos
Chelsea v Juventus
Tottenham Hotspur v Sporting Clube de Portugal
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Aston Villa v Olympiacos. Wednesday 20th March. Ko 7 pm.
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Four english clubs all at home - should be a good evening .
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SHA U-11s v Aston Villa U-11s
7-a-side Game 1: 2-1
9-a-side Game 1: 3-6
7-a-side Game 2: 3-7
9-a-side Game 2: 0-4
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Fancy losing a game to that lot. Randy out!
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They had three shots all game and scored from two of them. Villa dominated throughout and were only kept at bay by a mini version of Joe Hart who had a stormer.
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SHA U-11s v Aston Villa U-11s
7-a-side Game 1: 2-1
25th anniversary celebrations already being planned
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SHA U-11s v Aston Villa U-11s
7-a-side Game 1: 2-1
9-a-side Game 1: 3-6
7-a-side Game 2: 3-7
9-a-side Game 2: 0-4
It may be my imagination, but we often seem to lose the first game then cream the opposition in the next 2 or 3.
I assume the SHA scores are the first quoted.
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Yes. The matches were played alongside eachother on two pitches.
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Just read on the OS that only the North Stand upper will be open for the Olympiakos Nextgen game.
Seems a bit odd, always used to be the trinity lower for reserve/youth games.
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Just read on the OS that only the North Stand upper will be open for the Olympiakos Nextgen game.
Seems a bit odd, always used to be the trinity lower for reserve/youth games.
So where is the atmosphere going to come from then? Surely the lower Holte and lower Trinity would be best for the young lads. The upper North is a stupid decision imv.
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Just read on the OS that only the North Stand upper will be open for the Olympiakos Nextgen game.
Seems a bit odd, always used to be the trinity lower for reserve/youth games.
So where is the atmosphere going to come from then? Surely the lower Holte and lower Trinity would be best for the young lads. The upper North is a stupid decision imv.
I was told today that Olympiacos have a planeload of supporters flying over.
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So was I. They have a chartered flight.
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Everton U21 1-0 Villa U21 - 60 mins: Villa made a brighter start to the second period with Graham Burke hitting a half-volley just over from Josh Barton's cutback. But the hosts came back strongly yet again. Two more terrific saves from Brad Watkins to deny Vellios and McAleny.
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Everton U21 2-1 Villa U21 - GOAL - 70 mins: Game on! Hope for Villa thanks to a great goal from Daniel Johnson. The midfielder reacted quickest to a hopeful ball forward before converting a powerful drive from just inside the box.
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2-2 FT.
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U11s 9-a-side
Aston Villa 2 Liverpool 2
Aston Villa 3 Liverpool 1
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Just read on the OS that only the North Stand upper will be open for the Olympiakos Nextgen game.
Seems a bit odd, always used to be the trinity lower for reserve/youth games.
So where is the atmosphere going to come from then? Surely the lower Holte and lower Trinity would be best for the young lads. The upper North is a stupid decision imv.
I was told today that Olympiacos have a planeload of supporters flying over.
And I bet a bus load or 2 from London.
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Just read on the OS that only the North Stand upper will be open for the Olympiakos Nextgen game.
Seems a bit odd, always used to be the trinity lower for reserve/youth games.
So where is the atmosphere going to come from then? Surely the lower Holte and lower Trinity would be best for the young lads. The upper North is a stupid decision imv.
I was told today that Olympiacos have a planeload of supporters flying over.
Thank goodness we only provide paper plates.
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The game against Olympiacos is tonight at 7pm and may be on Eurosport.
Do wonder if they might have nearly as many fans at this as us.
Can we just use our season tickets to go through the door? We're in the North Stand for this one?
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Match Ticket Prices
Season Ticket Holders: Free
Adults: £3
Under 16s: £1
Unreserved Seating
Only the North Stand Upper tier (Block T) will be open for this fixture but ALL season cards will be activated and any season card holder will be able to gain access into the North Stand Upper using their card. There is no need for season ticket holders to call in advance, just turn up and use your card!
Additional Information
• Season card holders must have their season card with them as existing season cards will be activated for this NextGen fixture
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Why just in the Upper North ?
The ground will look really strange
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Why just in the Upper North ?
The ground will look really strange
Think a lot of Olympiacos fans may be in the Trinity?
Cheers PWS btw.
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Why just in the Upper North ?
The ground will look really strange
I believe it's because the Trinity Road is busy. I'm assuming there are various 'corporate' events on (or may be just one).
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I can't get to the NextGen match tonight so I've been doing some digging on the options:
Free text commentary on avfc.co.uk
Live video streaming for AVTV members on avfc.co.uk (membership is free for season ticket holders, look in your welcome pack if you haven't already registered)
It's not on EuroSport or the NextGen web site.
Highlights from the last round can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSiKHg5DwzQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSiKHg5DwzQ)
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VILLA: Watkins, Webb, Kinsella, Lyden, Donacien, Lewis, Barton, Carruthers, Robinson, Burke, Grealish. Subs: Bateman, Grant, Calder, Crooks, Khalid, Cowans, O’Brien.
OLYMPIACOS: Choutesiotis, Karagkounis, Lykogiannis, Rougkalas, Pinto, Siopis, Voutsiotis, Ionnidis, Gino, Lyras. Subs: Vouros, Paidakis, Papasavas, Vlachos, Soukias, Pasalidis, Vergos.
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What a shock, I can't find my ST pack to watch on AVTV. Bloody idiot!
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Found it!
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The AVTV build up starts at 6:30 for those who can't wait for their Jack Woodward fix :)
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The AVTV build up starts at 6:30 for those who can't wait for their Jack Woodward fix :)
I'm so excited I could crush a grape.
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They've just shown the Upper North and there's already people in their seats. Including about 20 Olympiacos fans.
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Not much segregation here!
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Not much segregation here!
No steaming into them Leeg!
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Nice to hear from Gary Gardner that he is back in training.
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Nice to hear from Gary Gardner that he is back in training.
Definitely! Sorry couldn't resist.He starts every sentence with it.
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Nice to hear from Gary Gardner that he is back in training.
Definitely! Sorry couldn't resist.He starts every sentence with it.
It's mad innit.
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Olympiacos fans are rowdy lot!
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GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAL. Burke.
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1-0 Burke
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Get in 1 nil Burke 11mins.
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1-0 Burke lovely goal
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Nice to hear from Gary Gardner that he is back in training.
Definitely! Sorry couldn't resist.He starts every sentence with it.
It's mad innit.
Ya know your right.
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In case anyone missed it. I can confirm we are 1 up and Burke scored.
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Looked on AVTV couldn't find the woodward link. However I noticed a bit about Benteke opening a new school library. It was my old school. That place was brilliant. It was build about 500 yards from the really old one (that had WW2 underground bunkers, that was cool to) The best part was when it was being built, took about 18 months. They also built about 10 houses on the plot. The school was still being built as the footings were going in for the houses. Man we had great war games, up the scaffold on to the second floor for the snipers and in the trenches for the rest. Rope swings from the second floor everywhere. Had to stop the rope swings though when Keith Taylor put a 25 yard rope on a 20 foot drop. Smacked his leg up real bad, the snipers still got him before the ambulance came
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Is it half time yet? Still 1-0?
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37 mins still 1-0.
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Villa boys under the cosh a bit and its freezing cold here
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HT still 1-0.
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Hope the Corner Flag has enough food.
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Well that was a let off.
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Well that was a let off.
Tease
Olympiacos looked a big strong side on the clips I saw from the last round. This will be a good win if we pull it off.
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Cracking run from Carruthers and then he dives and gets booked.
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And another let off as they clatter the woodwork.
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And yet another let off. We are living somewhat dangerously at times. With it often coming from us giving the ball away. Which sounds familiar.
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And then Grealish hits the post. I'll be amazed if this finished 1-0.
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Spurs 1 - 3 Sporting latest score.
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We've been holding on a bit this half but we've improved in the last few minutes. Hopefully it'll continue.
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Sporting will probably be the team to beat in this competition. The NextGen website made the Tottenham team sound like they're ready to take the Champions League in the match preview.
Nothing new there I guess.
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Olympiacos make a few subs, i'm assuming you can make 4 a game in the NextGen?
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Good job their number 9 has rubbish first touch
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Is it two legs?
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Nope.
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10 minutes to go and for some reason Woodward has decided to add a Y to the end of the names of the Villa players.
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Trickery feet!
And 5th sub for Olympiacos.
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3 mins added time.
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And off the line from a corner.
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10 minutes to go and for some reason Woodward has decided to add a Y to the end of the names of the Villa players.
You can always put a Y before Woodward, he's a challenge over 90 minutes.
Bloody hell that was close. A nervy last few minutes lie ahead.
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Full time. Well done the babbies. Thank smeg Olympiacos missed so many chances.
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Great stuff.
Thanks for the updates chaps.
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Well done Villa.
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Thanks for the updates, PWS. Seems like Lambert has got his way with all the teams playing the same way - by hanging on at the end.
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The semis and the final take place over Easter weekend at Lake Como:
http://www.nextgenseries.com/en/News/Comments-and-Features/2013/Host-city-and-dates-unveiled (http://www.nextgenseries.com/en/News/Comments-and-Features/2013/Host-city-and-dates-unveiled)
I wish it was in May, I may have found a way to go along.
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The future may be very bright!
Well done lads!
Shame it's so soon.
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Does anyone know why Drennan wasn't playing?
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The semis could be an all English line-up. Chelsea are already through, Spurs have gone to extra time with Sporting Lisbon and Arsenal play CSKA Moscow on Monday.
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The semis could be an all English line-up. Chelsea are already through, Spurs have gone to extra time with Sporting Lisbon and Arsenal play CSKA Moscow on Monday.
Spurs lost 5-3 AET
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Bloody freezing on the no.9 bus going home, but I really enjoyed that! Very composed performance from our no.5 (Cold has wiped my memory of his name!).
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Well done the Babbies
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Cold but fun. Their fans were awesome.
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I was very impressed with Carruthers tonight. He will make the first team soon.
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I was very impressed with Carruthers tonight. He will make the first team soon.
I was really disappointed with him. Grealish looked good in patches. Our number 3 had a good game. Number 5 grew in confidence as the game progressed. Burke took his goal well.
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I thought the lad Barton did well. Carruthers was very hit and miss. Gave the ball away a lot, but also made some cracking runs. Shame about the dive at the end of one of them.
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I was very impressed with Carruthers tonight. He will make the first team soon.
I was really disappointed with him.
Well there you go ...same match different opinion! I thought he dominated midfield at times and could turn into that sort of player.
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Villa U19s will now jet off to the holiday retreat of Madonna, George Clooney, Ronaldinho, Sylvester Stallone and Richard Branson after seeing off gritty Olympiacos in the quarter-finals of the Next Gen Series.
Graham Burke, lively all night, fired home the only goal of the game in the first-half at Villa Park to seal the claret and blues passage to the last four of the prestigious tournament.
Tony McAndrew's aspiring young team brilliantly booked their place in the finals weekend, being held in the artistic and culturally-rich Lake Como in Italy between March 29 and April 1.
The semi-finals and final will be played over one weekend in the Como Calcio's Stadio Giuseppe Sinigaglia - and Villa will be there.
It was following an engaging and interesting tussle with the Greek outfit, who were backed by a one-hundred strong fanbase in B6.
Villa were good value for their first-half lead, producing some fine football.
Ironically, the first real action saw the opening goal fly into the net, Burke firing home on the volley delightfully from just inside the box.
Fans from both teams applauded Stan Petrov on 19 minutes in a warm gesture on a bitterly cold night.
Villa almost doubled their lead just before the half-hour mark. Samir Carruthers fired his shot weakly into the wall from 20 yards but the ball fell kindly to Josh Barton.
Barton fired wickedly towards the far post but Eleftherids Choutesiotis flew across his goal to save.
The ever-lively Callum Robinson then fired straight at the keeper before Olympiacos created their first effort of the game.
Dimitrious Siopis shot on the turn but Brad Watkins produced a fine one-handed save to keep the ball out.
On the stroke of half-time, Choutesiotis was again called into action, saving well from Robinson who had been unselfishly laid-in by the effervescent Jack Grealish.
Olympiacos came out strongly after the break and made the early running.
Nikolaos Ionnidis first fired high and handsome before pulling a shot agonisingly wide soon after the restart.
Carruthers, a constant menace in the opposition backline, was booked for diving in the box before Klodian Gino smashed a shot against the post, giving the home side a lucky let-off.
Carruthers gave the ball away sloppily just past the hour mark, letting in Ionnidis once again, but for a second time, the tall striker shot just wide of the upright.
After that moment, McAndrew's men sprang into life once again, creating a plethora of chances.
Grealish smashed a shot against the post, with the keeper lucky to see the ball fly back into his arms on the rebound.
Then Carruthers saw a howitzer of a strike brilliantly palmed away by the keeper before Brad Lewis watched as his subsequent header was also saved smartly.
Villa could and should have doubled their advantage with just fifteen minutes remaining but once again the goalkeeper did superbly to keep out a fierce Grealish header.
Robinson and Burke were both foiled by the keeper with four minutes remaining as Villa looked to put the tie to bed.
But Olympiacos almost sent the game to extra-time in the final minute, Leandro Climacci Pinto firing goalwards from 30 yards out. Thankfully willing Watkins moved swiftly to his right to tip the ball to safety.
That was all she wrote as the young lions celebrated enthusiastically about their semi-final berth as the ref blew loudly on his whistle to signal the end of an enthralling game.
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I was very impressed with Carruthers tonight. He will make the first team soon.
I was really disappointed with him.
Well there you go ...same match different opinion! I thought he dominated midfield at times and could turn into that sort of player.
I thought he was inconsistent throughout, plus he gave the ball away a lot. Seen him play far better.
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Good on the Olympiakos fans if they were aware of and responded to the 19th minute.
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They were and did.
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Hope the Corner Flag has enough food.
There was enough to feed us. ;)
Very tasty tuna Mayo roll.
It was absolutely freezing tonight. Watched the second half inside.
Well done to the Villa Boys.
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Top fans that lot. Complete nutters and kept us all amused. It takes some devotion to your club to travel all the way to Brum to support your youth team!
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Bloody freezing on the no.9 bus going home, but I really enjoyed that! Very composed performance from our no.5 (Cold has wiped my memory of his name!).
No 5. Janoi Donacien
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Voted player of the match.
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Bloody freezing on the no.9 bus going home, but I really enjoyed that! Very composed performance from our no.5 (Cold has wiped my memory of his name!).
No 5. Janoi Donacien
Wasn't he the lad who had some nastiness involving deportation? Think he was a refugee of some sort.
Although I may be getting this totally wrong.
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www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2083398/Aston-Villa-starlet-Janoi-Donacien-leave-UK.html
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What a surprise that the story was reported in the mail.
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Top fans that lot. Complete nutters and kept us all amused. It takes some devotion to your club to travel all the way to Brum to support your youth team!
Most of them were from London. They had London Gate 7 banners and the bus was also on it's way back there.
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Shame I missed it. My impending death by a thousand snots, otherwise known as man flu, meant stopping out in the cold was a bad idea.
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Impressive support from Olympiacos, at least 200 singing all game. Thought they were unlucky not to get an equaliser from their second half display.
Thought Burke and Grealish were very good. Didn't have a team sheet, but our number 9 looked happier on the wing, than up front. Whoever our black centre-half was, looked very good too and the keeper had a good game.
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Thought Donacien had a decent game as did the keeper. Liked Barton on the ball, used both feet to make passes without a problem which is quite a rarity nowadays.
Regards Carruthers, Grealish and Burke, thought they played well in flashes but frequently overplayed it when they could have done the simpler thing. Unfortunately whilst they looked ok as in maybe a future Bannan or Clark they certainly did not look like Rooney did at that age and dominate proceedings.
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Thought Donacien had a decent game as did the keeper. Liked Barton on the ball, used both feet to make passes without a problem which is quite a rarity nowadays.
Regards Carruthers, Grealish and Burke, thought they played well in flashes but frequently overplayed it when they could have done the simpler thing. Unfortunately whilst they looked ok as in maybe a future Bannan or Clark they certainly did not look like Rooney did at that age and dominate proceedings.
Was Barton the number 8? Thought he had a decent game.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2296637/Aston-Villa-1-Olympiakos-0--NextGen-match-report.html
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Team:
1. Brad Watkins
2. Josh Webb
3. Lewis kinsella
4. Jordan Lyden
5. Janoi Donacien
6. Brad Lewis
7. Josh Barton
8. Samir Carruthers
9. Callum Robinson
10. Graham Burke
11. Jack Grealish
Subs:
12. Liam Bateman
13. Aiden Grant (GK)
14. Riccardo Calder
15. Alfie Crooks
16. Abdo Khalid
17. Henry Cowans
18. Daniel O'Brien
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17. Yes. It's his son.
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@AVFCOfficial: #AVFC will play Sporting Lisbon in the semi-finals of #NextGenFinals
Our semi-final will be played March 29, ko 8pm CET in Lake Como.
: The other semi-final is Chelsea v Arsenal or CSKA Moscow.
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Doesn't Abramovich own part of CSKA? He'll probably just tell them to let Chavski win (if they beat Arsenal, that is).
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Impressive support from Olympiacos, at least 200 singing all game. Thought they were unlucky not to get an equaliser from their second half display.
Thought Burke and Grealish were very good. Didn't have a team sheet, but our number 9 looked happier on the wing, than up front. Whoever our black centre-half was, looked very good too and the keeper had a good game.
From watching the stream second half, we appeared to have as good as chances as they did. We hit the bar, Grealish (or Burke) headed straight at the keeper from point blank and then skyed the rebound and then we had a good shot which then fell to our offside player for a follow up.
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Fantastic that we are competing so well in this again. Following the Villa is not been exactly fun in the last three years but this is just great and shows that, as a club, we are getting something right, lets hope the success spreads.
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The draw for the NextGen Series semi-finals took place this afternoon at the tournament’s London headquarters, revealing the final round of matches to be played. Chelsea will take on either Arsenal or CSKA in Como next week, with Aston Villa facing Sporting CP. The semi-finals will be held at the Stadio G. Sinigaglia on Friday 29th March and the final on Monday 1st April. Games will be brought to fans live via Eurosport and via Chelsea TV.
This week saw Chelsea FC, Sporting CP and Aston Villa fight off tough competition in their quarter-final fixtures. The last quarter-final game, Arsenal vs. CSKA Moscow will take place on Monday 25th March and will determine the fourth club through to the semi-finals.
Following a 4-1 win over Juventus last Sunday, Chelsea FC earned their place in the finals and will play either Arsenal or CSKA Moscow in the first semi-final. Both victorious from their wins against Olympiacos and Tottenham Hotspur last night, Aston Villa and Sporting CP will be going head to head.
Both semi-final ties will be played over one leg with extra-time and penalties played on the night should the scores be level after 90 minutes. The third place play off will take place at 13.00 CET on Sunday 31st March, with the NextGen final the following day.
The concluding fixtures are as follows:
29th March
Chelsea vs. Arsenal FC/CSKA broadcast TBC at 15.00 CET
Aston Villa vs. Sporting CP broadcast LIVE on Eurosport at 20.00 CET
1st April
Final broadcast LIVE on Eurosport at 18.00 CET
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The draw for the NextGen Series semi-finals took place this afternoon at the tournament’s London headquarters, revealing the final round of matches to be played. Chelsea will take on either Arsenal or CSKA in Como next week, with Aston Villa facing Sporting CP. The semi-finals will be held at the Stadio G. Sinigaglia on Friday 29th March and the final on Monday 1st April. Games will be brought to fans live via Eurosport and via Chelsea TV.
This week saw Chelsea FC, Sporting CP and Aston Villa fight off tough competition in their quarter-final fixtures. The last quarter-final game, Arsenal vs. CSKA Moscow will take place on Monday 25th March and will determine the fourth club through to the semi-finals.
Following a 4-1 win over Juventus last Sunday, Chelsea FC earned their place in the finals and will play either Arsenal or CSKA Moscow in the first semi-final. Both victorious from their wins against Olympiacos and Tottenham Hotspur last night, Aston Villa and Sporting CP will be going head to head.
Both semi-final ties will be played over one leg with extra-time and penalties played on the night should the scores be level after 90 minutes. The third place play off will take place at 13.00 CET on Sunday 31st March, with the NextGen final the following day.
The concluding fixtures are as follows:
29th March
Chelsea vs. Arsenal FC/CSKA broadcast TBC at 15.00 CET
Aston Villa vs. Sporting CP broadcast LIVE on Eurosport at 20.00 CET
1st April
Final broadcast LIVE on Eurosport at 18.00 CET
Will AVTV show these games?
Will there be any other outlets from which to watch?
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The draw for the NextGen Series semi-finals took place this afternoon at the tournament’s London headquarters, revealing the final round of matches to be played. Chelsea will take on either Arsenal or CSKA in Como next week, with Aston Villa facing Sporting CP. The semi-finals will be held at the Stadio G. Sinigaglia on Friday 29th March and the final on Monday 1st April. Games will be brought to fans live via Eurosport and via Chelsea TV.
This week saw Chelsea FC, Sporting CP and Aston Villa fight off tough competition in their quarter-final fixtures. The last quarter-final game, Arsenal vs. CSKA Moscow will take place on Monday 25th March and will determine the fourth club through to the semi-finals.
Following a 4-1 win over Juventus last Sunday, Chelsea FC earned their place in the finals and will play either Arsenal or CSKA Moscow in the first semi-final. Both victorious from their wins against Olympiacos and Tottenham Hotspur last night, Aston Villa and Sporting CP will be going head to head.
Both semi-final ties will be played over one leg with extra-time and penalties played on the night should the scores be level after 90 minutes. The third place play off will take place at 13.00 CET on Sunday 31st March, with the NextGen final the following day.
The concluding fixtures are as follows:
29th March
Chelsea vs. Arsenal FC/CSKA broadcast TBC at 15.00 CET
Aston Villa vs. Sporting CP broadcast LIVE on Eurosport at 20.00 CET
1st April
Final broadcast LIVE on Eurosport at 18.00 CET
Just a note to anyone not paying attention... CET is one hour ahead. So we kick off at 7pm on Friday.
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Apparently Arsenal are after one of our babbies:
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/arsenal/2013/03/25/arsenal-linked-with-move-for-villa-youngster/
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Apparently Arsenal are after one of our babbies:
http://gossip.ladyarse.com/arsenal/2013/03/25/arsenal-linked-with-move-for-villa-youngster/
There's a thread about it here.
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=49400.0
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Thanks for posting this, HWV, I really enjoyed watching it.
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Great result. Thanks for posting HWV.
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Thanks for posting this, HWV, I really enjoyed watching it.
Echo this, always good to see the youngsters.
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Haven't seen much of them before
lovely finish from Burke for the goal
Barton on the right looked tidy, nice first touch and quick feet
Grealish also, nice first touch and looks like he can beat his man pretty well
Donacien looks a big unit at the back
Does anyone go to the games regularly enough to know if they're regularly on that level? I've heard that this group of kids is the best yet but not really heard any of them being 'bigged up' as the key member of the team.
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Arsenal beat CSKA Moscow 1-0, so if we beat Sporting CP then it'll be an all-English Final *yawning emoticon*.
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Article in the Guardian about Next Gen. Seems like Uefa are taking over and fecking it up. It moves from invitational to the participants being the junior teams from "Champions" League qualifiers. Way to entrench the divide, idiots.
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Article in the Guardian about Next Gen. Seems like Uefa are taking over and fecking it up. It moves from invitational to the participants being the junior teams from "Champions" League qualifiers. Way to entrench the divide, idiots.
On a par with Europe's competition commissioner's idea to make it cheap[er to watch Premier League football on TV. Introduce competition so people now have to pay two broadcasters instead of one. Brilliant.
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Chelsea winning 3-1 in the first semi 20mins to go.
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Article in the Guardian about Next Gen. Seems like Uefa are taking over and fecking it up. It moves from invitational to the participants being the junior teams from "Champions" League qualifiers. Way to entrench the divide, idiots.
I thought uefa were going to start up a rival tournament instead? So we could win this, but miss out on the chance to defend the trophy next year because our first team are so, er, inconsistent?
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3-2 5 mins left.Its a shit of a pitch.
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3-3. 2 mins left.
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3-3, Arsenal scored twice in the last five minutes.
Extra-time, which is good news for us if we get through to play the winners.
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Article in the Guardian about Next Gen. Seems like Uefa are taking over and fecking it up. It moves from invitational to the participants being the junior teams from "Champions" League qualifiers. Way to entrench the divide, idiots.
I thought uefa were going to start up a rival tournament instead? So we could win this, but miss out on the chance to defend the trophy next year because our first team are so, er, inconsistent?
UEFA is looking at an 19 tournament, this is U-21. It is a separate tournament. If they turn out to be rivals too there will only be one winner, which is a great shame.
Part of the attraction of football at this level is that no one is trying to make money. If UEFA is getting interested who knows what will happen.
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Article in the Guardian about Next Gen. Seems like Uefa are taking over and fecking it up. It moves from invitational to the participants being the junior teams from "Champions" League qualifiers. Way to entrench the divide, idiots.
I thought uefa were going to start up a rival tournament instead? So we could win this, but miss out on the chance to defend the trophy next year because our first team are so, er, inconsistent?
I seem to remember a similar thing happened with Sunderland. They won the Reserve League but, as their first team got relegated they were unable to defend their title.
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are we not getting a match thread for this
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Is Drennan injured/
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Come on you Cubs!
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Yeah can we get a match thread for this?
Looking forward to this.
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Just saw Archie and the Italian Villains!
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Yeah can we get a match thread for this?
Done. Seeing as Legion couldn't be arsed...
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I'm on strike for 2 weeks.
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Striking during the Easter holidays? I don't think you teachers have got the hang of this Industrial Action lark!
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Power to the educationalists.
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Well done the young Villains , the boys did well tonight and played like a team from start to finish. Regardless of Monday's final result the future is bright :)
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Just got back home. Did we win ?
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3-1 win AET.
Burke (Pen), Grealish, Carruthers
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I hope Donacien makes it. He looks a beast at the back.
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So the final is on Monday at half five. Is it definately on Eurosport ?
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Yep.
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Yep.
Lovely. Will be in the local watching the game.
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And we did it without the top scorer in the competition!
Well done lads. Enjoy the final.
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The two best academies in England at the moment in my view.
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So the final is on Monday at half five. Is it definately on Eurosport ?
Half 4 and on Eurosport however half 5 your time!
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So the final is on Monday at half five. Is it definately on Eurosport ?
Half 4 and on Eurosport however half 5 your time!
We are the same time as the UK in the Canaries. So what time do we kick off ? Half 4 or half 5 ?
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We put the clocks forward on Sunday so what does that mean as regards to kick off. I hate this mucking about with time- I get all confused.
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We put the clocks forward on Sunday so what does that mean as regards to kick off. I hate this mucking about with time- I get all confused.
I am always confused. Wibble wibble ecky ftoing zimbong :o
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The programme starts at 4.30 pm and finishes at 7.00 pm. No idea what time it kicks off. ;D
I guess it must be 4.30 pm.
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The programme starts at 4.30 pm and finishes at 7.00 pm. No idea what time it kicks off. ;D
I guess it must be 4.30 pm.
Still time for you and dc5 to jet out pauline after we beat Liverpool;)
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The programme starts at 4.30 pm and finishes at 7.00 pm. No idea what time it kicks off. ;D
I guess it must be 4.30 pm.
Still time for you and dc5 to jet out pauline after we beat Liverpool;)
Pauline and Jon should have been out there for yesterday's game, flown back for the Liverpool game and then back out for the final.
They're a pair of part-timers ;)
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The programme starts at 4.30 pm and finishes at 7.00 pm. No idea what time it kicks off. ;D
I guess it must be 4.30 pm.
Still time for you and dc5 to jet out pauline after we beat Liverpool;)
Pauline and Jon should have been out there for yesterday's game, flown back for the Liverpool game and then back out for the final.
They're a pair of part-timers ;)
I'd agree if I believed either of them existed!
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Just found out from my lad that the captain, number 5 Doclein (sorry about spelling) went to school barely a mile from me.
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Just found out from my lad that the captain, number 5 Doclein (sorry about spelling) went to school barely a mile from me.
Janoi Donacien.
He nearly got deported last year didn't he?
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Just found out from my lad that the captain, number 5 Doclein (sorry about spelling) went to school barely a mile from me.
Janoi Donacien.
He nearly got deported last year didn't he?
Yes, over some complete nonsense, his parents both have the legal right to be in the UK and he'd been here since he was about 9 but as soon as he got a work contract he should have applied for a change in his visa but who' d think of that having lived in the UK for that long with no issues, I think he can apply for british citizenship soon anyway, it was ridiculous. Effectively "you're allowed to stay in the country so long as don't find work", which is about as backwards as you can get.
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Team news - Chelsea U21 v Villa U21 (ko 1pm).
CHELSEA: Blackman, Dabo, Pappoe, Conroy, Deen-Conteh, Musonda, Ssweankambo, Lalkovic, Swift, Hunte. Subs: Starkey, Killip, Seremba, Bangura.
VILLA: Siegrist, Bateman, Williams, Stieber, Devine, Donacien, Barton, Carruthers, Strain, Johnson, Cameron. Subs: Crooks, Grant, Cowans, O’Brien, Toner.
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Chelsea U21 0-1 Villa U21 - GOAL - 17 mins: It's a fifth goal in three games for Daniel Johnson. The skipper made a trademark late run to get on the end of Josh Barton's right-wing cross and fire into the bottom corner.
Chelsea U21 1-1 Villa U21 - GOAL - 23 mins: Chelsea have equalised through Connor Hunte. He bundled the ball home from close range after being well-placed to meet John Swift's cutback.
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Chelsea U21 1-1 Villa U21 - HT - End-to-end first half at Cobham. Villa keeper Benjamin Siegrist made a stunning save to tip Isak Ssewankambo's powerful effort over. Andras Stieber also blasted over the bar after a neat piece of hold-up play from Daniel Johnson.
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Chelsea U21 1-2 Villa U21 - GOAL - 70 mins: Villa are back in the lead. Courtney Cameron sent in a terrific free-kick to the back post and Daniel Devine scored with a towering header.
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I take it we won pws?
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Yes, in dramatic style.
Chelsea U21 1-2 Villa U21 - FT - Drama in stoppage time. The referee pointed to the penalty spot after Daniel Devine was harshly penalised for a foul on Aziz Deen-Conteh. Milan Lalkovic stepped up with a golden opportunity to salvage a point from the penalty spot. The Chelsea forward attempted to outwit Benjamin Siegrist with a chipped penalty but ended up lifting his effort over the bar. A second victory for Villa over Chelsea in the space of four days.
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What happens to the Academy teams if the worst thing possible happens and we do get relegated....as both Under 19 & 21 teams will also be removed from the Premier Academy league's. Which will not do a great deal for the young players careers and the Academy in general. I am right in saying this arent i???
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What happens to the Academy teams if the worst thing possible happens and we do get relegated....as both Under 19 & 21 teams will also be removed from the Premier Academy league's. Which will not do a great deal for the young players careers and the Academy in general. I am right in saying this arent i???
It's a very good point, unfortunately I don't know how it works.
It would also beat Doug's record for relegating European Champions by 5 years.
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As far as I can tell they'll stay in.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u21-premier-league-tables.html?paramYouthStage=NATIONAL
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u18-premier-league-tables.html?paramYouthStage=NATIONAL
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Paul Lambert hailed the achievements of Villa's NextGen heroes after their Lake Como success.
Villa emerged victorious in the prestigious European competition, beating Ajax, Sporting Lisbon, Olympiacos, Celtic, PSV and Chelsea along the way.
Lambert flew out to Italy for the showpiece final and was impressed with what he saw.
The boss believes the victory will give the players "the winning feeling".
But he stressed that the hard work is still ahead of them as they strive to forge successful professional careers in the game.
He said: "It was great. I was over there for the final.
"They were excellent, second half especially.
"It gives them a feeling of winning - what it's like to win something.
"The next stage is getting near the first team. The gap is getting bigger and stronger.
"But for them, considering they lost the first two games, it's a great achievement.
"I think for them and the club it's fantastic. I really do.
"You're playing against teams in Europe and you get different styles to come up against."
On the first-team step-up, he added: "The jump is not a little step, it's a big jump into this league.
"It is not like in years gone by when the step into the first team was maybe not as big as it is now.
"It is a big gulf, physically as well, and the lads have to still develop.
"But for them to get the feeling of what it is like to win, they've done great.
"There's one or two that have got a chance in the game, that's for sure."
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What happens to the Academy teams if the worst thing possible happens and we do get relegated....as both Under 19 & 21 teams will also be removed from the Premier Academy league's. Which will not do a great deal for the young players careers and the Academy in general. I am right in saying this arent i???
It's a very good point, unfortunately I don't know how it works.
It would also beat Doug's record for relegating European Champions by 5 years.
Wolves, Bolton, Boro, Blackburn and even Palace are still in it, so no problem.
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As champions I'd hope we get to defend our trophy whatever league we are in at top level.
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As far as I can tell they'll stay in.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u21-premier-league-tables.html?paramYouthStage=NATIONAL
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/barclays-u18-premier-league-tables.html?paramYouthStage=NATIONAL
Sound - happy with that.
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Were many of the lads playing the other day in the European Cup final also in action today? I see Samir was anyway.
Odd coincidence.
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From the O/S
Four of Villa's NextGen Series heroes are back in action today in the Barclays U21 Premier League clash against Chelsea.
Samir Carruthers, Josh Barton, Janoi Donacien and Liam Bateman - who all featured as Villa triumphed at the NextGen finals weekend in Lake Como - have been named in the starting line-up for this afternoon's game at Cobham.
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Doesn't look like they are doing so well in the league despite winning the NextGen series.
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From the O/S
Four of Villa's NextGen Series heroes are back in action today in the Barclays U21 Premier League clash against Chelsea.
Samir Carruthers, Josh Barton, Janoi Donacien and Liam Bateman - who all featured as Villa triumphed at the NextGen finals weekend in Lake Como - have been named in the starting line-up for this afternoon's game at Cobham.
I wonder if we'll win 2-1 and they'll miss a last gasp penalty?
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Josh Barton has been released from the club today apparently
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Seems a bit abrupt. Did he go out on the lash and batter someone last night?
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Seems a bit abrupt. Did he go out on the lash and batter someone last night?
Just got released, the same as happens every year.
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Just found out from my lad that the captain, number 5 Doclein (sorry about spelling) went to school barely a mile from me.
Janoi Donacien.
He nearly got deported last year didn't he?
Yes, over some complete nonsense, his parents both have the legal right to be in the UK and he'd been here since he was about 9 but as soon as he got a work contract he should have applied for a change in his visa but who' d think of that having lived in the UK for that long with no issues, I think he can apply for british citizenship soon anyway, it was ridiculous. Effectively "you're allowed to stay in the country so long as don't find work", which is about as backwards as you can get.
Having the right to work also means that you have to make national Insurance and tax contributions. It would also mean he could be entitled to benefits. Somebody having the legal right to be in the UK doesn't mean family members can do as they choose. That legal right may only be limited leave.
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Seems a bit abrupt. Did he go out on the lash and batter someone last night?
Just got released, the same as happens every year.
Must be a bit strange for him. European glory and getting dumped in the same week.
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Seems a bit abrupt. Did he go out on the lash and batter someone last night?
Just got released, the same as happens every year.
Must be a bit strange for him. European glory and getting dumped in the same week.
Another way of looking at it... they knew they were going to release him but didn't want to deny him the chance to get a winner's medal, which will also look good on his CV if he decides to try to continue his career elsewhere.
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U21's are 2-0 up away to Blackburn with 10 minutes left, Robinson and Grealish on target.
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Final score 2-0.
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Are any of our lot going to be chosen for the u19, u20 or u21 England squads for the Summer tournaments? I know Peter Taylor is manager of the u20 one.
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Delfouneso is usually in the U21 squad.
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Don't really count him as 'ours' now. He won't be for much longer.
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I still look out for some of the lads that came through the youth system and think of them as being ours when they score or do something newsworthy (that's positive).
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Members of Villa's triumphant NextGen Series squad are set to appear with the trophy at the family funday ahead of Saturday's clash with Fulham.
Skipper Samir Carruthers will be bringing the European trophy to the Villa Park Indoor Academy along with seven of his team-mates from 1.30pm to 2.30pm.
The young Villa squad became champions of Europe during Easter when they defeated Sporting Lisbon and Chelsea at the NextGen finals weekend in Lake Como.
They also defeated PSV Eindhoven, Celtic, Ajax and Olympiacos during a memorable campaign.
Carruthers, goalscoring heroes Graham Burke and Michael Drennan, defensive trio Janoi Donacien, Josh Webb and Lewis Kinsella and attacking aces Callum Robinson and Jack Grealish will all be on hand to greet supporters at the funday.
The whole NextGen squad - many of whom are in action for Villa's U18 side at Blackburn on Saturday - will also get the chance to parade the trophy at half-time during our home game against Sunderland on Monday April 29.
The Mars Family Funday before the Fulham clash includes a host of free activities for supporters to enjoy from 12.30pm up until kick-off.
Among the activities confirmed are Mars games, air football, inflatable cactus hoopla, baskeball strike, air flow racer, assault course, face painting and some football challenges.
The Mars M&Ms mascots will also be in attendance along with the Villa mascots.
It is a great way for all the family to get involved in the pre-match festivities before settling down to watch the important encounter against the Cottagers.
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Sounds fun. I hope they're giving out peanut M and Ms.
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I still think the ''Cottagers'' is a bit of a dodgy name though. Maybe they do all play with each other in the toilets. ???
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U21's at home to Chelski 19:05 KO.
Full match on AVTV with Andi Weimann next to Jack!
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U21's at home to Chelski 19:05 KO.
Full match on AVTV with Andi Weimann next to Jack!
Christ,that Chelsea are gluttons for punishment aren't they ?
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Watching this on Chelsea Tv. May well have to turn the volume off.
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Watching this on Chelsea Tv. May well have to turn the volume off.
cant be as bad as listening to Jack Woodward :-\
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Good 19th minute applause.
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1-0 Villa. Alfie Crooks.
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Watching this on Chelsea Tv. May well have to turn the volume off.
cant be as bad as listening to Jack Woodward :-\
Not too sure which is worse. These Chelsea commentators are so biased.
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lovely to hear the Chelsea commentators saying that "they are chasing the ball and the Villa are just playing keep ball".
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Villa U21 1-0 Chelsea U21 - GOAL - 25 mins: Villa are in the lead thanks to the quick reactions of Alfie Crooks. Chelsea's goalkeeper Jamal Blackman came flying out of his goal to meet Lewis Kinsella's curling left-wing cross. He could only punch the cross as far as Crooks who fired into an empty net from the edge of the box.
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Wow our babbies are playing some great possession football.
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Alfie Crooks? He sounds like a player from the 1940s!
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As an aside, our U-13s played against Coventry last weekend (away). We lost 3-0, but one of our U-11s took part and was player of the match. Building for the future.
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Alfie Crooks? He sounds like a player from the 1940s!
or out of a comic.
Hope we really win this. I want the commentator to say at the end there is no shame in losing to the European champions
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Watching this on Chelsea Tv. May well have to turn the volume off.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Penalty for Chelsea.
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And they score. 1-1
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Penalty for us.
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Saved. Bloody hell.
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Daniel Johnson looked good again. I wonder if Lambert doesn't rate him.
Grealish's decision making wasn't so good, he spent a lot of time slowing things down in search of a blind alley.
We should have won it.
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Personally thought Johnson was too casual throughout the game and epitomised by his penalty. Keeping possession of the ball is ok but the pace needs to be quickened up every so often so that teams are opened up. Otherwise they just retreat and reorganise. It is a major fault with the first team and I thought the lads tended to play it at too pedestrian pace last night as well. It is if they are saying look at me I have killed the ball and now I am going to roll it 20 yards backwards to a team mate and then stand and watch who he is going to role it to.
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Looking at these U13, U-11, U-9 games I thought one of the new way of thinking from our Academy was that those under 16 didn't play in competitive games? Surely these games are just that?
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Fulham U21 0-0 Villa U21 - 15 mins: Lively start from Villa. Samir Carruthers smashed a volley just over from 18 yards after being teed up by Daniel Johnson. Gary Gardner has already tried his luck on his first appearance since August. The midfielder unleashed a 30-yard drive which also just cleared the cross-bar.
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Looking at these U13, U-11, U-9 games I thought one of the new way of thinking from our Academy was that those under 16 didn't play in competitive games? Surely these games are just that?
Yes, Pete. They are competitive. U-16s lost 2-0 against Arsenal and the U-13s lost 3-0 to Coventry. U-11s beat them 12-0, though.
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U-12s lost 5-3 at Crewe.
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Fulham U21 1-0 Villa U21 - 60 mins: Good chances for Derrick Williams and Samir Carruthers. Williams unleashed a powerful header which Fulham keeper Neil Etheridge couldn't hold but the home side eventually scrambled it clear. Samir Carruthers lost his marker with a delightful drag-back before curling a 25-yard shot at goal. This time Etheridge saved comfortably. Fulham's Kerim Frei struck the bar with a stunning effort. He controlled on his chest before turning and volleying against the woodwork. Gary Gardner made way for Jordan Lyden in a pre-planned half-time substitution.
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Fulham U21 2-0 Villa U21 - GOAL - 75 mins: The hosts double their advantage. Jack Grimmer was well placed to help Cauley Woodrow's cross-shot over the line from inside the six-yard box.
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U-12s lost 5-3 at Crewe.
Well that can sack that bloody lot.
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Aston Villa U-12s 3 Leicester City U-12s 3
Shockingly poor match. Villa eventually went 3-2 up and defended like our first team for the last couple of minutes. The ref missed a handball seconds before they equalised with the last kick of the game.
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Villa U18s 6-1 Man City U18s
Went to Bodymore yesterday to watch the last Academy home game of the season.
What a start.
2 mins Penalty to Villa, missed by Jerell Sellars
3 mins 1-0 - Sellars
5 mins 2-0 - Abdo Khalid
10 mins 3-0 - Jack Grealish
15 mins 4-0 - Sellars Penalty
25 mins Penalty to Villa, missed by Grealish
30 mins 5-0 - Sellars (hat-trick)
40 mins 6-0 - Henry Cowans.
We went easy on them second half including taking Grealish off. We also missed a string of chances.
They couldn't cope with Sellars pace up front and Grealish was George Best for the day.
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Henry Cowans - Any relation to Sid ?
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His son.
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Henry Cowans - Any relation to Sid ?
Is this going to be the next Barry/penalty question in the coming years.
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The elite league of super best friends losing 6 - 1?
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Henry Cowans - Any relation to Sid ?
Is this going to be the next Barry/penalty question in the coming years.
Yep.
Good result but looks like they need to work on their penalties.
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A question or 2 to Larry Duff/ Mazrim. Any suprises in the released players yet? Grealish worth putting on bench? Any others worth keeping an eye on and finally has Crowley gone to The Arse yet? Thanks in advance.
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Aston Villa U-12s 3 Nottingham Forest U-12s 0 (Game 1)
Aston Villa U-12s 2 Nottingham Forest U-12s 0 (Game 2)
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In answer to Hoppo. I was surprised that we let Malcolm Melvin go. He had been captain of the saturday morning team most of the season and played in the next gen side as well. I haven't seen Watkins Clarke, the big blond centre back around either. He may be injured but I have a feeling he has gone too. Same with Daniel Devine.
Grealish has the makings of a great player. He was several classes above a very poor Man City team yesterday. He is still an U18 player next season and I am sure if we were in a better position they would be tempted to have a look at him in the first team.
Dan Crowley hasn't gone yet but there are strong rumours. He started last week in the reserve/U21 game against Fulham. He is still at school and only 15 so he can move if he wants to, with us probably getting a small fee in compensation. I think it would be a bad move for him as he has a much better chance of making it with us. I would be gutted as he could be the real deal as well.
It is a big step up to the first team though.
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To be honest, I keep in touch with the general goings on with what's what but I haven't the time any more like I used to with regards to the academy. I do know that our teams tend to be higher rated the younger they get ATM. Our youth teams at u19 u18 and so on are excellent but I'm hearing the youngsters below them, the 10-15 year olds and so on are frighteningly good.
Lots of encouraging signs for the future.
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Is that just the way it has gone or has there been a significant change in the amount we invest or the way we scout/recruit at youth levels over the last 6 years or so?
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We've been a great academy for some time but in the last 5 years or so we have really been pulling out all the stops to be the best. If we get a reputation for not only developing young players but also offering them a genuine route to first team football at a young age we will have our pick of the best players in my opinion, even above the so called heavy hitters.
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Thanks Larry and Maz.
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And let's not forget that it's taken about 25 years for us to get to this point as weren't the foundations for all of this laid during the Sir GT part 1 era? If there's one thing I have noticed throughout my time supporting the club since 1990 it's been a focus on the Youth academy and its importance.
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To be honest, whilst a lot of plans were laid a long time ago, we were sort of paying at it until the last 5 or 6 years where we've really stepped it up. The standards and facilities have gone through the roof.
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Thanks for the replies, it's good to see it is a result of positive action we have taken. It means there is every chance it will continue.
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No doubt in my mind. We're committed to it and to be honest, it's our best bet for future success.
We don't buy superstars, we make them. I guess that's the mantra.
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Get in Stoke
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Get in Stoke
wrong thread johnno
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Sorry about that!
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To be honest, whilst a lot of plans were laid a long time ago, we were sort of paying at it until the last 5 or 6 years where we've really stepped it up. The standards and facilities have gone through the roof.
What we need to get better at though is the step after this. We're good at getting the kids in and getting them playing well above average 1 level below the first team but we've had problems with getting them over that gap and have lost a few very highly rated youngsters along the way. If we can start really converting the potential into premier league performances then we'll be in a great place to really move up the league. There's probably 7-8 of the current youngsters who are in with a real chance of making it in the next 2 years, added to the academy graduates already in the squad that'ss a fairly massive sign that we will do right by our own. If we can't use that as a selling point to the likes of Crowley, etc then we're in trouble.
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Although you're right paul the current pull of an Arsenal, man U, Chelsea etc in today's Branded Sky football world turns heads of young kids more than a great possibility of making it with Aston Villa. You'd hope the parents can see it though.
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The pull of fast tracking kids to a first them is probably stronger than the fortunes of a clubs first team.
Yes, the odd player might be seduced by it but in terms of academy reputation, facilities and so on Villa are very much one of the big guns. We can lose players to other clubs and we can also take them from them.
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A big pull that clubs like Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea etc have is that they're happy to give a kids' parents a house or a £100k job for throwing paper aeroplanes around the office. I don't know whether we stoop to those depths but it is a challenge we face.
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A big pull that clubs like Arsenal, Man United, Chelsea etc have is that they're happy to give a kids' parents a house or a £100k job for throwing paper aeroplanes around the office. I don't know whether we stoop to those depths but it is a challenge we face.
Walter Cowans - kit-man supreme.
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Shame they couldn't show off the NextGen trophy today.
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Shame they couldn't show off the NextGen trophy today.
Two games in a row I'd been looking forward to that. How come it didn't happen again?
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A prior commitment of a football match.
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Villa ladies are playing at villa park tomorrow night against coventry - free admission for all / though i guess most of us will be busy watching events in north London.
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U-11s were being trounced by Manchester United 0-4 at half-time.
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0-7 at FT. Shocking performance.
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Little fuckers.
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Sounds like Grealish had a great game in the Hong Kong 7s.
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Strong side starting at West Ham tonight:
Steer,Lyden, Donacien, Bateman, Webb, Gardner, Sylla, Albrighton, Johnson and Bowery
0-0 4 mins
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Locked as the new thread for this season is now up and running in the main forum.