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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 14, 2015, 04:43:22 PM
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Enjoy.
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Thank you Aston Villa for a wonderful early Birthday present.
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I thought we were excellent
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That was nice
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If you're having goal problems I feel bad for you son
I've got 60% win ratio second to none!
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That was rather nice to watch.
FUCKIN' GET INNNN! :D :D :D
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Today was a good day.
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So happy right now
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We go again
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Brilliant fantastic result.
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We've gone from beating the traffic to beating the monkey. Wonderful stuff!
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Legion, the match has finished - stop locking the post-match thread!
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Excellent display. We were rampart first half and could afford to cruise in the second half.
Gabby, Benteke, Bacuna, Zogbia and Sinclair were all great in attack. TC and Delph controlled midfield.
Have to say that young lad who came on looked incredibly nervous before coming on. Perhaps a year or two too early for the boy, though he did have a go at Birdcutt and won a decent freekick. I'm glad to see Sherwood taking a few punts on these youngens.
Great job. We look like we'll stay up, and probably with some space to spare.
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beer...curry for take-out dinner...motd...welcome back Saturday. I've missed you.
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Attacking intent. Chances created. Attempts on target. Goals. I'd almost forgotten what it was like
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A demolition, then took the foot off the gas without giving the ball and territory away. Professional, intelligent, skill. Love it. A great week for all Villa fans and players, well deserved.
Enjoy the weekend.
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Gutted we didn't score five which is a lot better feeling than praying for just one goal or a shot on target. The perfect week. Thank you, Mr Sherwood and to Mr Lambert, was it really that difficult?
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We fucking go again!!! Up the Villa!
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I really hope that it is not really 0500 on Saturday morning and I am about to wake up
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I think we were both trying to do the same and I buggered it up in haste.
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Awesome first half. Professional second half.
Great result, mega performance.
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We go again!
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Stunning. It was like watching Barca v some bottom of the table La Liga also-rans.
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Arise Sir Timothy of Sherwood!
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I bet Sunderland hate playing us.
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Wow. I wish to apologize to mr sherwood for doubting his appointment.
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Rule No.1 of Relegation dogfights....Beat the teams around you. West Brom Beat, Sunderland Beat....Keep it going (and pick up the odd point or so elsewere) and we'll be fine.
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Chuffed to fuck another three points.
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Actually looking forward to MOTD.
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if results go our way next week we could be nearly ten points clear of the drop zone
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Theres a tiny bit of me that's pissed off that we didnt score more, given our dominance and how awful Sunderland were.
Its only a tiny bit though, this is the best couple of weeks to be a Villa fan for some time.
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Two clean sheets in a row too!
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Sorry Tim, I take it all back
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I take it we don't need Lerner to be at Villa Park now.
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Well, that was good, wasn't it? Fucking blimey Charlie (N'Zogbia)!
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Wow. I wish to apologize to mr sherwood for doubting his appointment.
Me too. If it helps I've still got a bit of humble pie left over from the Albion wins
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Great to see us playing so well from start to finish, the attacking intent, the creating of chances, it's been so long since i've seen us looking like this. Great performances from Clark, Benteke, Gabby, Nzogbia, Bacuna, as well as plenty of others on the pitch. Playing like a team, one who want to win. Really happy. UTV
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"I thought we were excellent; excellent".
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Man City thrashing Burnley would be the icing and round off a nice day
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Sunderland need to pick themselves up and go again
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And to think, we'll understand the post-match interview as well
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if results go our way next week we could be nearly ten points clear of the drop zone
That 'nearly' nearly got me! Positive thinking ... are you related to Sir Timothy?
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Sunderland need to pick themselves up and go again
If they're in the market for a new manager...
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
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Sunderland need to pick themselves up and go again
If Sunderland want to replace Poyet, there's one manager who not that long ago became available.
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These are the things, these are the things, the things that dreams are made of.
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if results go our way next week we could be nearly ten points clear of the drop zone
That 'nearly' nearly got me! Positive thinking ... are you related to Sir Timothy?
Or 4 games with 8 to go!
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From F365:
!Sunderland thrashed by Villa
Sunderland are in deep relegation trouble after they were thrashed 4-0 at home by fellow strugglers Aston Villa, conceding all four goals in the first-half.
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Today was a good day.
The Lakers beat the Supersonics.
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Speechless. I switched everything off at 2-0. The Villa of old (I.e Lambert's Villa) would have lost it 3-2.
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Superb performance. What a brilliant week for the Villa!
MOTD 2 weeks on the trot! Madness!
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I can't even remember the last time I enjoyed the final minutes of a game, or even a complete game without being stressed to death. Thank you Sherwood, Thank you Villa ! UTV
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Haven't enjoyed a week as much as this since about 82
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
I feel for them.
Good club. Heavily invested in. Just haven't caught a break. I am glad we won but I rather like Sunderland fans.
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And brilliant to see both strikers scoring as well.
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Who knew that football could be fun?
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Seems funny to think that Charlie and Cleverly were the main contenders for MOM....but they were.
The times they are a changing!
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Looking forward to MOTD for the 2nd week running. Unreal.
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
I feel for them.
Good club. Heavily invested in. Just haven't caught a break. I am glad we won but I rather like Sunderland fans.
I wonder how many fans of other clubs have looked at our post match boards this season and had a good snigger? A fair few I reckon. Nice its us for a change.
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I take it we don't need Lerner to be at Villa Park now.
He's so fickle he'll probably be interested now. Ha ha only joking, Fox is running the show and he's been brave enough to appoint Tim Sherwood. Who'd of thought it?
Fantastic. I bloody missed the first half too! Well done all by the sounda of it.
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Seems funny to think that Charlie and Cleverly were the main contenders for MOM....but they were.
The times they are a changing!
They can all get MOM for me. In fact they can have a free car. In fact everyone gets a car. EVERYONE GETS A CAR!
(http://abroadable.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/http___makeagif-com__media_2-13-2014_j8op1e.gif)
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Brilliant, just fantastically, magically brilliant. Can't remember the last time I felt like I couldn't wait for the next game, it's a good feeling to have back.
I fkn love you, Villa.
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Sunderland are such a brilliant match up for our pacey attacking players, everytime we attacked today you thought we were going to score. Another club ruined by Martin O'Neill I'd suggest.
Don't want them to go down.
I'd be disappointed to only finish 17th now, we should be looking forward to the rest of the season given some of the fixtures and finish strongly in the league. The cup will look after itself.
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The match commentator said in the second half"Aston Villa are painting their patterns on the canvas"
Bloody Hell!
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The match commentator said in the second half"Aston Villa are painting their patterns on the canvas"
Bloody Hell!
They did give the ball away right after that comment. They wouldn't be our Aston Villa if they didn't do that sort of thing though.
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
Villa double their away goals record for the entire season to this point in one half of football against us. Well done Tim Sherwood.
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Great result and a fantastic feeling. We should be looking to climb up the table now, but Man City hammering Burnley would be very welcome as well.
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Sunderland are such a brilliant match up for our pacey attacking players, everytime we attacked today you thought we were going to score. Another club ruined by Martin O'Neill I'd suggest.
Don't want them to go down.
I'd be disappointed to only finish 17th now, we should be looking forward to the rest of the season given some of the fixtures and finish strongly in the league. The cup will look after itself.
I don't want them to go down either, especially as we're becoming a bogey team for them.
But I think they're in trouble if either QPR or Burnley get into a run of form. Although Connor Wickham is probably due to turn up in the last few games.
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Fabulous stuff, we look like a team again.
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Just checked we are Game Of The Day on Sky Sports at 8 o'clock. We can watch it from beginning to end in glorious technicolour.
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When I don't go I usually have a news blackout until full time. Thought I would give it twenty minutes and bang what any easy afternoon it turned out to be. Thank you Mr Sherwood. UTV
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We murdered them, let's kick on now and never look back.
Thank you Tim Sherwood for making the world a good place once again.
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Just realised - before today we'd only scored 4 goals away ALL SEASON! Fair play to those who go to away games - their loyalty has finally been rewarded
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Sunderland fans must feel like we did a month ago.
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Now that we play like a team who try to win we look like we can win. Another win next week please.
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Was great to see the young kid come on, but Carles Gil must be wondering what he has to do to get a game.
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Was great to see the young kid come on, but Carles Gil must be wondering what he has to do to get a game.
According to the manager, he must impress him in training.
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As I said pre-match, piece of piss. Although I figured we'd declare. What a week and a half it's been. I fucking love Villa.
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JOURNALISTS! The Villa played today. Here are some past participles you may need when writing about us in the active voice:
clobbered crushed defeated mauled overwhelmed pasted pummelled routed spanked trounced whipped battered birched buried caned chastened chastised flagellated flogged licked murdered pelted pounded punished slaughtered tanned trashed walloped.
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I was a little concerned that we started without a genuinely defensive midfield player, but Timeh's gamble payed off big time. Excellent move for the first goal, and good controlled football thereafter. A startlingly decent stream as well.
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I bet Sunderland hate playing us.
I don't want then to go down. We need teams like them to look forward to every season.
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It really beggars belief that some one could get as decent a bunch of players as that and then teach them to play such insipid and winless football.
We are the opposite of Lamberts team, players running off the ball, playing with their head up, attacking, communicating and we look a lot fitter too.
We have come a long way in a few weeks- still work to do but a fantastic turn around.
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In the space of a few weeks we have gone from the depths of despair; think back to how we all felt after Hull, to simply elation. Battered Sunderland on the back 2 brilliant wins last week. Unimaginable in every way.
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I am rewatching the first half. Are we that good or Sunderland that bad?
The way we knocked it about, amazing.
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I was a little concerned that we started without a genuinely defensive midfield player, but Timeh's gamble payed off big time. Excellent move for the first goal, and good controlled football thereafter. A startlingly decent stream as well.
'Gamble' is very harsh.
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Goals (http://hoofoot.com/?match=Sunderland_0_-_4_Aston_Villa_2015_03_14)
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Almost a quarter of all the goals we've scored all season... in one (half of a) match.
Suck on that Lambert.
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I bet Sunderland hate playing us.
I don't want then to go down. We need teams like them to look forward to every season.
Neither do I.
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Swansea have been a little iffy since Bony left, so a win next week would put us in a great position. I honestly can't see QPR getting much over 30 points, or Sunderland for that matter.
Right now though, we look a pretty good side too. Players are playing well who previously looked completely done at this level (Gab and Zog).
So far so good Timmy.
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Goals (http://hoofoot.com/?match=Sunderland_0_-_4_Aston_Villa_2015_03_14)
Thanks, Leeg.
Sunderland's defending was pathetic.
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I feel like we're Dickie Attenborough popping up from that tunnel in The Great Escape. It's almost too easy...
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Goals (http://hoofoot.com/?match=Sunderland_0_-_4_Aston_Villa_2015_03_14)
Bloody marvellous!
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Goals (http://hoofoot.com/?match=Sunderland_0_-_4_Aston_Villa_2015_03_14)
Thanks, Leeg.
Sunderland's defending was pathetic.
Fantastic finishes though.
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Those are quality goals.
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. On our way home on the A1m....fantastic performance in every manner..my 13 year old son's first league away day . He's buzzing
Charlie n'zogbia was sublime, at one point in the second half , they had two men stood off him as he manoeuvred his way up, far too scared to get close.
Sunderland are going to have to bite the bullet and pull the trigger on poyet.9 more points will do it..oh and two performances at wembley please Tim.
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I can watch MOTD for a change, instead of shunning it like a woman you slept with years ago while pissed.
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4 teams below us now, goal difference better than those, and a good chink of daylight points-wise, level on points with the two above us. Another good day all round for The Mighty Villa juggernaut.
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I am rewatching the first half. Are we that good or Sunderland that bad?
The way we knocked it about, amazing.
Combination of both, Sunderland were an absolute disgrace as the co-commentator continually pointed out. Bit like the Hull game for us recently, their players seemed to give up long before the end. The farce with Larsson not coming out until 3 or 4 mins in the second half and then limping on summed them up. The likes of Bridcutt, Alvarez, Van Aanholt, Rodwell really looked miles out of their depth today. With the Johnson situation and fans and players clearly given up on Poyet then they are really in the sh*t. Could do worse than start playing Wickham up top again, thought he was decent when he played up the middle in the second half.
For us, we played superb attacking football in the first half. 4 goals but it should have been 6 really. Fair play to Sherwood, tactically I thought he was far too ambitious in his team selection but it worked brilliantly. We pressurised their keeper, defenders and midfielders high up the pitch and reaped the benefits from that. I was a little disappointed with us in the second half and they created some decent chances. But the football played in the first 45 mins will live long in the memory. Some turnaround in form from the likes of Nzogbia and Gabby whom I suspect 99% of fans wanted them gone out of the club by the end of Lambert's reign.
Guzan 6 - had little to do.
Bacuna 9 - would have been 10 only for yellow. Cafu like going forward today with two assists.
Okore 7 - far more solid today though Wickham caused a few problems
Clark 7 - solid again in the main. Has shown great character this season to turn his career around.
Lowton 7 - hardly a long term option at left back but has filled a huge hole for us manfully. Brilliantly blocked one cross in the first half
Nzogbia 8 - would have got long odds on a return to form from Charlie a few weeks ago, outstanding at times though did mess up some promising counter attacks by overplaying the ball
Cleverley 8 - very good in first half particularly, didnt see much from him after the break not that we needed to
Delph 9 - A different level to every other midfielder on the park, deserved a goal
Sinclair 6 - Missed sitter was a shocker but thought his play was very passive anyway. Better player at Villa Park so far for us
Gabby 9 - Showed good perseverance for the first but his second was Benzema like.
Benteke 9 - Took the piss out of them at times, for the rest of the season we need to get him one on one with defenders in the box like his second goal today. That goal was like the Benteke of old
Sanchez had a decent cameo at centre half. Very strong in the air. Weimann and Hepburn-Murphy didnt see too much of it. Westwood didnt impress me against West Brom so fair play to Sherwood for dropping him. Gil obviously needs to pick up his ideas.
Lowlight of the day, seeing that ar$ehole Roy Keane in the stand. Suspect Ciaran Clark has done enough to be starting for Ireland in a few weeks
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I was going to post a clip of Pharrell Williams's Happy. but I won't risk a lawsuit from the Gaye family lawyers.
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Went for a run, got back at about 3.20, turned the radio on to hear we were 2 nil up. I was still worried we would throw it away though, how wrong could I be? Two weeks in a row and Villa haven't ruined my weekend. Thanks Tim, thanks boys.
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Best bit about today is the fact that Gabby and Benteke are looking very good again.
Good assists from Bacuna.
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Brown and O'Shea are years past their shelf life. Both appalling now, and they were only ever average at best. They must be close to the worst CH pairing in the top flight. I was delighted we took full advantage and exploited that, and also their lack of pace throughout the whole side.
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Feels great to have Aston Villa back instead of that awful Lambert's Aston Villa Nil !
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For us, we played superb attacking football in the first half. 4 goals but it should have been 6 really. Fair play to Sherwood, tactically I thought he was far too ambitious in his team selection but it worked brilliantly. We pressurised their keeper, defenders and midfielders high up the pitch and reaped the benefits from that. I was a little disappointed with us in the second half and they created some decent chances. But the football played in the first 45 mins will live long in the memory. Some turnaround in form from the likes of Nzogbia and Gabby whom I suspect 99% of fans wanted them gone out of the club by the end of Lambert's reign.
Good points. I will say we did keep at it in the second half. 60 minutes in and the USA commentators have just said "4 goals up and Villa had 3 players in the box for that Bacuna cross, and Cleverly just outside it. This is attacking football".
Brilliant :)
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I'll tell you what, Hutton's not getting back in the side. I am delighted for Bacuna. He was superb today. Who'd have thought that we have a RB making easy work of playing LB, and a right midfielder looking like Carlos Alberto.
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Speechless
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I was going to post a clip of Pharrell Williams's Happy. but I won't risk a lawsuit from the Gaye family lawyers.
That song's been on my internal jukebox for a while this evening.
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I'll tell you what, Hutton's not getting back in the side. I am delighted for Bacuna. He was superb today. Who'd have thought that we have a RB making easy work of playing LB, and a right midfielder looking like Carlos Alberto.
The good thing about that is we have options depending on the type of game it is. Playing City away - Hutton starts for his solidity. Playing Swansea at home - chuck Cafu...er I mean Bacuna in.
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Goals (http://hoofoot.com/?match=Sunderland_0_-_4_Aston_Villa_2015_03_14)
Thanks, Leeg.
Sunderland's defending was pathetic.
Coupled with some lovely stuff from us off course. That first goal is simply lovely. Great ball by Cleverley and a terrific flick by Charlie
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For us, we played superb attacking football in the first half. 4 goals but it should have been 6 really. Fair play to Sherwood, tactically I thought he was far too ambitious in his team selection but it worked brilliantly. We pressurised their keeper, defenders and midfielders high up the pitch and reaped the benefits from that. I was a little disappointed with us in the second half and they created some decent chances. But the football played in the first 45 mins will live long in the memory.
Agreed, it was an amazing 45 minutes. Once again we show how much more we want it and teams just can't compete with our desire. Benteke and Gabby were lethal today, both seem to have their confidence back and are finally getting some decent service. Credit to Bacuna for his assists and N'Zogbia for that great run and pass to Gabby.
Sunderland are in a right mess. They looked okay until the first goal but thereafter a complete shambles. I'm struggling to see how they can recover from today, certainly the poorest side we've played this season. They might feel hard done by for not getting a penalty for the Clark hand ball or from hitting the post but overall they were completely disjointed and lacking any confidence. It would be a shame for their fans if they went down but on that performance they deserve it.
The league table is a more welcoming sight for us where for the first time this month I'm looking at the teams above rather than below.
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
But with even fewer "cup finals" to turn it round.
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Goals (http://hoofoot.com/?match=Sunderland_0_-_4_Aston_Villa_2015_03_14)
Wow. It's hard to believe it's the same players.
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
But with even fewer "cup finals" to turn it round.
Correct which is why they may not be able to arrest their alarming slide.
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Cant remember the last time I watched MOTD on a weekend.
I'm looking forward to it.
I'm looking forward to Villa Park next Saturday as well.
I'm looking forward to a semi-final.
I'm looking forward to all things Villa, something I also haven't done for a very long time!!!
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I can watch MOTD for a change, instead of shunning it like a woman you slept with years ago while pissed.
I'm going to watch Game Of The Day on Sky, and then MOTD for good measure. Days like this haven't come along too often recently.
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I just noticed that really helped our goal difference as well. Might come in handy later in the season. Its not good but now its the least bad of the bottom 5.
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stopping up
randy, open your purse please.
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Modest as I am, I have to take credit for us winning today. Instead of sitting here praying for a result and getting depressed reading the match threads, I got off my fat arse and cut the grass which takes just about an hour. After that I did my late neighbours which takes about an hour and a quarter but took me the best part of two hours today, all being the first cuts of the season. I then went to do the grass of my elderly neighbours which usually takes a half hour as Jim has a ride-on mower but I couldn't get the feckin thing going, I flooded it. The moral for me is: When the Villa are playing, get of your arse and do something.
Back on topic. That was a fabulous cross for Benteke's second goal. What joy to see free-flowing football. Sweet beer again tonight.
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
But with even fewer "cup finals" to turn it round.
Their next two are West Ham away then the BarCodes at home. I can't see them picking up anything there except a bad case of the shits. Lose to the Barcodes and they will sink completely.
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The match commentator said in the second half"Aston Villa are painting their patterns on the canvas"
Bloody Hell!
That's when I knew I was dreaming. Should be about to wake up soon I guess.
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
But with even fewer "cup finals" to turn it round.
Their next two are West Ham away then the BarCodes at home. I can't see them picking up anything there except a bad case of the shits. Lose to the Barcodes and they will sink completely.
Don't they have a fairly decent record against Newcastle in recent times?
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
But with even fewer "cup finals" to turn it round.
Their next two are West Ham away then the BarCodes at home. I can't see them picking up anything there except a bad case of the shits. Lose to the Barcodes and they will sink completely.
Don't they have a fairly decent record against Newcastle in recent times?
They do, won last three I think but they're so poor even Newcastle away from home will beat them. I think that game should be worth a watch as it may explode in complete and utter madness. Even more so if Roy Keane is their new manager.
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Sunderland are precisely where we were at the end of the Hull game.
But with even fewer "cup finals" to turn it round.
Their next two are West Ham away then the BarCodes at home. I can't see them picking up anything there except a bad case of the shits. Lose to the Barcodes and they will sink completely.
Don't they have a fairly decent record against Newcastle in recent times?
They do, won last three I think but they're so poor even Newcastle away from home will beat them. I think that game should be worth a watch as it may explode in complete and utter madness. Even more so if Roy Keane is their new manager.
Keep your horses well away.
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Well I never! My beer and curry is going to taste good tonight.
I can't remember the last time I felt so positive about AVFC.
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I have no hatred for Everton but a loss tomorrow would put them right in it.
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
Reminisent of Villa boards a few months ago ::)
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I cant even remember what the MOTD theme tune sounds like after the lambert years.
It is incredible how that is the same players, that have served up such turgid football for so long. Gabby has gone from the most useless player in the squad, to actually looking like a premier league player again.
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WOOHOO!! But, the BBC5Live Extra commentary was so biased it may as well have been the Sunderland official feed. And Man City are tainting things.
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
Reminisent of Villa boards a few months ago ::)
Yup - with a few more gannins and marras.
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Sunderland message board (http://www.readytogo.net/smb/forums/pure-football.86/) is worth a chuckle of two.
Their match thread has nearly 1,200 posts.
Reminisent of Villa boards a few months ago ::)
The pre-match confidence is funny to read and then it all completely goes to shit.
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4-0 away from home! Couldn't be happier!!!
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I'm a bit gutted as I couldn't watch today but I was running round the park with my little one like a crazed teenager. Absolutely buzzing cheers Tim
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I feel like we're Dickie Attenborough popping up from that tunnel in The Great Escape. It's almost too easy...
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy191/villan2010/Mobile%20Uploads/article-1248491-080CFFF5000005DC-142_634x490.jpeg) (http://s791.photobucket.com/user/villan2010/media/Mobile%20Uploads/article-1248491-080CFFF5000005DC-142_634x490.jpeg.html)
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I feel like we're Dickie Attenborough popping up from that tunnel in The Great Escape. It's almost too easy...
(http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/yy191/villan2010/Mobile%20Uploads/article-1248491-080CFFF5000005DC-142_634x490.jpeg) (http://s791.photobucket.com/user/villan2010/media/Mobile%20Uploads/article-1248491-080CFFF5000005DC-142_634x490.jpeg.html)
Er.......you do know how that film ends though............................. ;)
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On BT Sport last night in their football chat show they were examining Man Ure's run in games. One of the precious tosser pundits commented "the only bit of respite for LVG is the game against Aston Villa". Don't hold your breath.
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Had a fantastic day here, and still here now!
Insane having to hold in the emotions in the home end as our boys ran riot! The Sunderland fans were, ahem, not happy around us.
My lad, despite plenty of warnings about keeping quiet, first attack we get, NZog cuts inside and he shouts Shooooot!!!! He was good as gold though and loved the experience of his first away game.
Villa fans, as always, loud and proud. We joined in a bit at the end as everyone around us had gone, there was literally no-one left!!
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Tell you what, Saturday evenings when you've had a really good result are fucking great
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http://www.timesoccer.com/video/003/24-aston-villa-vs-sunderland-live-highlights.html
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Tell you what, Saturday evenings when you've had a really good result are fucking great
Too bloody right.
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Tell you what, Saturday evenings when you've had a really good result are fucking great
Too bloody right.
Can't beat it.
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I feel like we're Dickie Attenborough popping up from that tunnel in The Great Escape. It's almost too easy...
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Er.......you do know how that film ends though............................. ;)
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Yes, but Attenborough would probably have escaped if he had dumped the Scot earlier.
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I feel like we're Dickie Attenborough popping up from that tunnel in The Great Escape. It's almost too easy...
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Er.......you do know how that film ends though............................. ;)
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Yes, but Attenborough would probably have escaped if he had dumped the Scot earlier.
I genuinely snorted coffee.
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Sherwood is a football genius.
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The thing that really surprised me was the fans leaving like that at half-time. We have seen terrible matches but don't recall half the crowd at VP being gone? Thought the Mackems were made of sterner stuff?
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Tell you what, Saturday evenings when you've had a really good result are fucking great
I can't recall the last time on a Saturday I felt this great.
Hold on... last Saturday ;D
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On BT Sport last night in their football chat show they were examining Man Ure's run in games. One of the precious tosser pundits commented "the only bit of respite for LVG is the game against Aston Villa". Don't hold your breath.
**** I say him is!
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Tell you what, Saturday evenings when you've had a really good result are fucking great
Things you never thought you'd hear yourself say #23,879: I'm actually impatient for the Match of the Day.
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If anyone can post the MOTD highlights after or tomorrow would greatly appreciate it.
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Brilliant result, great manager, wonderful team and first on MOTD!
Keep it up, Tim!
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Typical Villa failing to convert two possible hat trick opportunities by playing negative defensive and oh yes turgid and dreary and ineffective football in the second half. NOT GOOD ENOUGH I am afraid!
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I don't think I've ever seen a side start the second half with 10 men because a player is still receiving treatment in the dressing room. Surely if he's not ready when the side goes out you sub him?
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It's understandable for opposition players to go hiding when they are up against 'The Mighty'.
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I don't know that I have seen a side look such a shambles as Sunderland today. On and off the pitch they looked a complete mess. I am quite confident we really wanted to step it up we could have comfortably grabbed 2 or 3 more today. Scoring a fifth would have crushing to them and they would have opened up them again. Fully expect Poyet to be fired tomorrow.
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I was thinking what to do with the £2k I will save on ST's and travel next year.....
I know now ;D
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Honestly how's it possible to score 4 in 45 mins and then not find the net in the whole of the second half. Pathetic. Sherwood out!
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The radio commentators said he was late out due to a boot problem. Was he injured?
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Stitches in his ankle,the commentator said.
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Stitches in his ankle,the commentator said.
Which begs the question. How dumb a manager do you have to be to play a clearly injured player when you have replacements on the bench?
I mean the man was openly hobbling the rest of the game. Thats insane, risking his injury like that just so he might score a free kick.
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I feel like we're Dickie Attenborough popping up from that tunnel in The Great Escape. It's almost too easy...
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Er.......you do know how that film ends though............................. ;)
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Yes, but Attenborough would probably have escaped if he had dumped the Scot earlier.
Applause
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On BT Sport last night in their football chat show they were examining Man Ure's run in games. One of the precious tosser pundits commented "the only bit of respite for LVG is the game against Aston Villa". Don't hold your breath.
If we play like we did today, we'll beat them easily.
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I don't know about easily, but we certainly won't be going there like we did in 2013 to help them win their league title. That was such an embarrassing example of white flag waving only topped by our disgraceful capitulation at Spurs.
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Don't want to piss on the bonfire but we are still only 3 points off the relegation zone. Remember we are Aston villa and nothing is ever easy.
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Don't want to piss on the bonfire but we are still only 3 points off the relegation zone. Remember we are Aston villa and nothing is ever easy.
If Lambert was still manager I would 100% agree with you. Mind you if Lambert was still manager we'd have been knocked out of the cup and we'd be discussing our away trips to Barnsley and Ipswich right about now on the back of a defeat on Wearside.
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At half time, I couldn't quite believe what I had seen. Sunderland play narrow, but we cut them apart time and again with the pace and slick passing/movement down the channels. It was utterly ruthless and we were full of cutting edge.
Sunderland had three in the middle, but Bridcutt was sat so deep it was essentially 2-2 in there, where Delph and Cleverley completely bossed them. So positive and energetic, they were first to every second ball.
N'Zogbia murdered them, Bacuna was a full back who spent most of his time as a second right winger. It was brilliant to see us really push onto them.
At half time I couldn't help but remember the ghost of Mark Draper in a Leicester shirt, but I need not have worried. We very impressively kept the ball throughout, probed and worked them. Actually it reminded me of us under Lambert as we stroked it around in second gear.
A brilliant performance.
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Don't want to piss on the bonfire but we are still only 3 points off the relegation zone. Remember we are Aston villa and nothing is ever easy.
If Lambert was still manager I would 100% agree with you. Mind you if Lambert was still manager we'd have been knocked out of the cup and we'd be discussing our away trips to Barnsley and Ipswich right about now on the back of a defeat on Wearside.
If Lambert was still here we'd have seen scenes similar to what happened with the Sunderland fans today in the last couple of weeks.
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I thought Hull were the worst team I've seen this season & Lambert somehow managed to lose to them. If he was still in charge he would have handed the game to Sunderland today without a wimper. Thankfully we now have a manager who wants to win, rather than one who's so petrified of losing he never takes a risk. What's more, the players seem to believe in him too.
As well as we played today, Sunderland were truly awful. We have laid the foundations for survival, but there's a long way to go yet. A month ago we were dead & buried.
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Yep. There is no chance a Lambert side would score 4 against Sunderland.
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I have no hatred for Everton but a loss tomorrow would put them right in it.
An Everton supporting friend is convinced they are in trouble and refers to their manager only as 'that helmet Martinez'. Which makes me laugh for some reason
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When the first goal went in I leapt around the room, then went out to the kitchen to tell the other half the good news, when I returned to the screen I thought it was a typo. 2 goals in 90 seconds!
I'd forgotten what a great win felt like. What a great weekend. I watched the rest of the game, then the rugby, sitting here now with a large Jamesons waiting for MOTD. .
Sherwood is the man. UTV
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Martinez's reputation was always over hyped. Steve Bruce had a better league record than him at Wigan and Rodgers took Swansea up but many gave the credit to Martinez. You don't get scrutinized too much if you are likeable and at a smaller club. Now he is struggling at a big club where he has spent a fair few quid in fees and wages his media fan club has gone quiet.
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Just walked through the door after driving like an eejit from VP so I can glorify in it all over again on MoTD.
A great day and a brilliant result.
Time for a beer!
UTV!
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I have no hatred for Everton but a loss tomorrow would put them right in it.
An Everton supporting friend is convinced they are in trouble and refers to their manager only as 'that helmet Martinez'. Which makes me laugh for some reason
They're definitely in the mix, the goal difference does help them out though. I'd quite like them to go down, I know 3 Everton fans and they all hate Villa for no good reason as far as I can tell, so fuck em.
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
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Just back from the match.
What a surreal day it's been .
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I have no hatred for Everton but a loss tomorrow would put them right in it.
An Everton supporting friend is convinced they are in trouble and refers to their manager only as 'that helmet Martinez'. Which makes me laugh for some reason
They're definitely in the mix, the goal difference does help them out though. I'd quite like them to go down, I know 3 Everton fans and they all hate Villa for no good reason as far as I can tell, so fuck em.
They absolutely are in the shit, I agree.
I've never understood why, when most Villa fans have a respect for Everton that reflects the fact our histories are so similar, most of their fans seem to hate us. Why?
Anyway, fuck them, I would love them to go down.
They really have been stealthy in their descent to relegation, though. I'd barely noticed their descent to the shitty end of the league until recently. I think that is probably because Villa had made me want to stop ever looking at the league table, but even so, they are right in it.
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Superb football and great to see that we can play football, three of the sky pundits went 0-0 and the big nosed cock went 1-0 to them, the same twats who said it was not Lambert's fault. Hope they now recognise the twat held us back so much, he made some decent signings IMO but his tactcs were totally shite and if his team talks were like his interviews, it is shocking we got so many goals this season with him in charge
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
Yes but even then the highlights were fucking terrible
First on MOTD but with the sort of time allocated that you'd get for a match second from last or thereabouts.
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Highlights seem shorter when you score 4 in 28 minutes ;D
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I said this about Everton a week or so ago. Next 2 games are massive for them as they are currently woeful.
Everton are right in it at the moment. 2 League wins in over 3 months. Once since Christmas. 3 league goals this year and 2 were against Leicester.
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
Yes but even then the highlights were fucking terrible
First on MOTD but with the sort of time allocated that you'd get for a match second from last or thereabouts.
Which reminds me the highlights of last Saturdays game were similarly appalling.
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Hopefully Newcastle turn Everton over tomorrow
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
Yes but even then the highlights were fucking terrible
First on MOTD but with the sort of time allocated that you'd get for a match second from last or thereabouts.
Which reminds me the highlights of last Saturdays game were similarly appalling.
We had a fair few more efforts than they showed
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Wes Brown is an impressive character isn't he? Looks like he really cares both on and off the pitch. All that passion, my word...
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
Yes but even then the highlights were fucking terrible
First on MOTD but with the sort of time allocated that you'd get for a match second from last or thereabouts.
Which reminds me the highlights of last Saturdays game were similarly appalling.
So being first and not being Man U or Chelsea essentially cancels itself out.
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Highlights were shit.
F**k MoTD.
(although tonight's pundits were real people and not parodies of themselves).
F**k their editor as well.
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What a first half performance. Amazing movement and fluid attacking football. Helped by a piss-poor Sunderland side.
I feel for the Sunderland supporters, I don't mind the club at all and it's only a few weeks since we were feeling similar pain, I hope they stay up.
Isn't it mad how things can change so quickly with football? After the Newcastle game I thought we were nailed on to go down and very pissed off with football in general and villa in particular. Since the league win against albion I've thought of very little else other than villa this last couple of weeks.
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Just walked through the door after driving like an eejit from VP so I can glorify in it all over again on MoTD.
A great day and a brilliant result.
Time for a beer!
UTV!
Great win against the Albion and glad you enjoyed it, Frank but it's about time you invested in some GPS. I hear it's all the rage.
Who's going to tell him about today's result?
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Be great to beat Swansea next week to give us some breathing space going into a couple of tough away fixtures. With QPR, Everton and Burnley to play at Villa park, with a rejuvenated team. I'm beginning to think we might be ok!!
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Be great to beat Swansea next week to give us some breathing space going into a couple of tough away fixtures. With QPR, Everton and Burnley to play at Villa park, with a rejuvenated team. I'm beginning to think we might be ok!!
It's important we beat Swansea now and keep this momentum going.
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
Yes but even then the highlights were fucking terrible
First on MOTD but with the sort of time allocated that you'd get for a match second from last or thereabouts.
Which reminds me the highlights of last Saturdays game were similarly appalling.
So being first and not being Man U or Chelsea essentially cancels itself out.
Villa, Burnley and West Ham on 1st, 2nd and 3rd. A Claret and Blue bonanza!
Shame about the Hammers result, or it could have been world domination.
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Just walked through the door after driving like an eejit from VP so I can glorify in it all over again on MoTD.
A great day and a brilliant result.
Time for a beer!
UTV!
Great win against the Albion and glad you enjoyed it, Frank but it's about time you invested in some GPS. I hear it's all the rage.
Who's going to tell him about today's result?
About time you realised where the club coaches drop the fans who go to away games!
UTV!
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Can someone confirm my drugs aren't affecting me. We're we just first on motd?
Yes but even then the highlights were fucking terrible
First on MOTD but with the sort of time allocated that you'd get for a match second from last or thereabouts.
Which reminds me the highlights of last Saturdays game were similarly appalling.
So being first and not being Man U or Chelsea essentially cancels itself out.
Villa, Burnley and West Ham on 1st, 2nd and 3rd. A Claret and Blue bonanza!
Shame about the Hammers result, or it could have been world domination.
I actually think the Leicester Hull highlights were as long as ours!!!
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
Those words, in that order.
They are english but I am still in shock and I am having a hard time accepting them.
"win 3 straight games"
blink/stare/blink
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Just walked through the door after driving like an eejit from VP so I can glorify in it all over again on MoTD.
A great day and a brilliant result.
Time for a beer!
UTV!
Great win against the Albion and glad you enjoyed it, Frank but it's about time you invested in some GPS. I hear it's all the rage.
Who's going to tell him about today's result?
About time you realised where the club coaches drop the fans who go to away games!
UTV!
Over to you SoV.
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
Those words, in that order.
They are english but I am still in shock and I am having a hard time accepting them.
"win 3 straight games"
blink/stare/blink
I know, I know.
Madness.
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
Late January under Gerard Houllier.
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
Late January under Gerard Houllier.
I don't know what those were but surely we didn't score 8 and concede only 1. If we did better don't reply.
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Get in! Massive 3 points
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Just walked through the door after driving like an eejit from VP so I can glorify in it all over again on MoTD.
A great day and a brilliant result.
Time for a beer!
UTV!
Great win against the Albion and glad you enjoyed it, Frank but it's about time you invested in some GPS. I hear it's all the rage.
Who's going to tell him about today's result?
About time you realised where the club coaches drop the fans who go to away games!
UTV!
Over to you SoV.
Ha! Got me right there, Frank. I thought we were losing you for a while. I trust the beer tasted good.
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Get in! Massive 3 points
Massive 4 points when you look at our goal difference.
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What a first half performance. Amazing movement and fluid attacking football. Helped by a piss-poor Sunderland side.
Only seen the highlights on MoTD, but we scored some good goals. The first in particular was a lovely move.
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Can we just play Albion and Sunderland all the time on alternate weeks? Beating Albion is more fun but beating Sunderland is better for the goal difference.
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A bit annoyed Burnley won. We still need to do plenty of work.
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
Late January under Gerard Houllier.
I don't know what those were but surely we didn't score 8 and concede only 1. If we did better don't reply.
It started with a 1-0 win over Man City, the one where Darren Bent scored.
Followed by a 2-1 win at Wigan; and 3-1 win in the FA Cup at home to Blackburn.
Then we were handed our customary loss to Man U.
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Yep. There is no chance a Lambert side would score 4 against Sunderland.
Yes quite. OK we did well against a poorly motivated team but there are some ridiculous comments here about Lambert.
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We go again! Can't wait. Well done to all the travelling support who made the trip. Hope VP is rocking against Swansea and we see another good attacking performance.
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I must say, after watching it again, it's so rereshing to see N'Zogbia running at opposition going past them and looking up and making a telling pass instead of round and round into a cul-de -sac player we had a few games ago.
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Superb football and great to see that we can play football, three of the sky pundits went 0-0 and the big nosed cock went 1-0 to them, the same twats who said it was not Lambert's fault. Hope they now recognise the twat held us back so much, he made some decent signings IMO but his tactcs were totally shite and if his team talks were like his interviews, it is shocking we got so many goals this season with him in charge
I'm amazed you waste your valuable time wathing these complete twats on Sky on a Saturday afternoon. They almost make Micky Quinn, that thickest of scousers, look intelligent. I shouldn't imagine based on when I used to have Sky, that numpties like Charlie Nicholas even know the name of any of our players
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When did we last win 3 straight games??
Peace cup?
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Highlights (http://vk.com/video-28639294_171294873?hash=04e1ba33a1a04ea4)
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Just walked through the door after driving like an eejit from VP so I can glorify in it all over again on MoTD.
A great day and a brilliant result.
Time for a beer!
UTV!
Great win against the Albion and glad you enjoyed it, Frank but it's about time you invested in some GPS. I hear it's all the rage.
Who's going to tell him about today's result?
About time you realised where the club coaches drop the fans who go to away games!
UTV!
Over to you SoV.
Ha! Got me right there, Frank. I thought we were losing you for a while. I trust the beer tasted good.
Cheers SoV!
You had me thinking I was pretty lost too for a bit!
The beer was very sweet indeed!
:D
UTV!
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Got back in the house around 12.30am, thanks to having a very pleasant hour and a half at Bramley Working Mens Club in Rotherham.
Fantastic result. The difference for me is seeing players run off the ball and passing it forwards rather than standing still and passing sideways. It looks a totally different side. Bacuna was superb in the first half and Gabby played like we know he can. No-one really had a bad game though. Let's hope we can keep it up.
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Got back in the house around 12.30am, thanks to having a very pleasant hour and a half at Bramley Working Mens Club in Rotherham.
Fantastic result. The difference for me is seeing players run off the ball and passing it forwards rather than standing still and passing sideways. It looks a totally different side. Bacuna was superb in the first half and Gabby played like we know he can. No-one really had a bad game though. Let's hope we can keep it up.
That's the big difference for me to,
they are looking to go forward all the time, it's not a massive technical difference it's just a mindset or an positive attitude but it makes us so much better
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There have been times when I have seen Man United come to Villa Park and they've pushed into us so much that their full backs end up looking like 3rd and 4th wingers and I have wished to see us take a game like that to somebody. That's what the first half was like. Bacuna and N'Zogbia could have been arrested for murdering Sunderland.
Just brilliant.
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Bang on Ads!
Didn't realise what a great game Bacuna had when watching it at SoL...on MoTD he looked amazing - in the 3 minutes coverage they gave us!
That's N'Zogbia's best game for us imho.
It's as if we've signed a new player!
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My son actually said when we going to watch villa , the first time since they bored him 1 2 against Newcastle .
It had been punishment for the poor lad.
Its great to feel like this again about villa.
Full credit to tim and the staff.
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We've got to keep it going though JP.
Still a long way to go and Burnley winning (and the stripeys) were the only things that left a tiny cloud in my claret and blue sky yesterday.
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The second goal summed it up for me.
Okore had the ball deep in our half and was facing Guzan. 4 weeks ago he would have passed that back to Guzan.
Instead, he turned, knocked it to Clark, who sent a ball over the top for Gabby to smash home.
No way on gods earth would we have looked to be that positive under TSMII.
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My son actually said when we going to watch villa , the first time since they bored him 1 2 against Newcastle .
It had been punishment for the poor lad.
Its great to feel like this again about villa.
Full credit to tim and the staff.
ditto Juan,
my egg chasing son, actually asked if Villa where home next week, my cup runneth over.
Love the Villa
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Yep. There is no chance a Lambert side would score 4 against Sunderland.
Yes quite. OK we did well against a poorly motivated team but there are some ridiculous comments here about Lambert.
I think the point isn't that Lambert didn't do it, it's that one of his Villa sides this season wouldn't be able to. Lambert went from being every bit as adventurous as Sherwood to a reincarnation of McLeish.
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A bit annoyed Burnley won. We still need to do plenty of work.
Sensible comment in amongst the celebrations. We are still only 3 pts above the bottom 3 - but at least there are 3 teams below us who have a lot more to worry about than us on current form.
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A bit annoyed Burnley won. We still need to do plenty of work.
Sensible comment in amongst the celebrations. We are still only 3 pts above the bottom 3 - but at least there are 3 teams below us who have a lot more to worry about than us on current form.
There is now 4 teams below us. All with work to do
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Sherwood has said there is lots of work to be done. I don't think he will allow any complacency.
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The second goal summed it up for me.
Okore had the ball deep in our half and was facing Guzan. 4 weeks ago he would have passed that back to Guzan.
Instead, he turned, knocked it to Clark, who sent a ball over the top for Gabby to smash home.
No way on gods earth would we have looked to be that positive under TSMII.
I noticed that one, too. I wonder if he got a shout, or the voice inside his head suddenly reminded him of what they've clearly been working on in training these last few weeks.
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Enjoying the day as we should BUT...
as pointed out in the escape thread we HAD to win here or at Newcastle to hit the magic target points.
This means we still got to win 3 at home. Thats very achievable with the new energy and positivism Sherwood bringing to the squad.
But there is still not a lot of room to deal with bad luck, blind refs and freak accidents that seems to always befall our beloved club.
Yesterday I almost thought we might get away with just 6 or 7 points then Burnley ruined that hope. We still need 9 more to relax a bit.
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Agree with 9. 37 will do but don't have to win 3. 2 wins and 3 draws from 9 should be possible.
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We now have to get at least one point more than Hull, one point less than Sunderland, two points less than Burnley, five points less QPR and/or 8 points less than Leicester. Any three out of those five things happening will see us safe. We have better form, more confidence and better players than all those teams. I'm not worried any more.
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We now have to get at least one point more than Hull, one point less than Sunderland, two points less than Burnley, five points less QPR and/or 8 points less than Leicester. Any three out of those five things happening will see us safe. We have better form, more confidence and better players than all those teams. I'm not worried any more.
I am still worried. We have three games we will do well to get anything from. So we need to get our points from the remaining six.
I will be a lot less worried if we beat Swansea.
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We now have to get at least one point more than Hull, one point less than Sunderland, two points less than Burnley, five points less QPR and/or 8 points less than Leicester. Any three out of those five things happening will see us safe. We have better form, more confidence and better players than all those teams. I'm not worried any more.
I am still worried. We have three games we will do well to get anything from. So we need to get our points from the remaining six.
I will be a lot less worried if we beat Swansea.
Every one of those teams has games against big sides, writing them off as not even worth turning up is what McLeish and Lambert have done for the last 4 years, I suspect we will see a very different approach this tie round and I wouldn't be surprised to see 2-3 points from those games.
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Two of the goals, edge of our own box to the back of their net, all along the floor, in seconds. One, "over the top" and run in behind. One, cross-field pass with a back-post cross and header. Good positive mix, ya just dunno where we're gonna get ya from!
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Is it safe to go out yet? Brilliant! Why can't we do that every week? We can I know; I know we can!
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We now have to get at least one point more than Hull, one point less than Sunderland, two points less than Burnley, five points less QPR and/or 8 points less than Leicester. Any three out of those five things happening will see us safe. We have better form, more confidence and better players than all those teams. I'm not worried any more.
I am still worried. We have three games we will do well to get anything from. So we need to get our points from the remaining six.
I will be a lot less worried if we beat Swansea.
I think our chances of getting something from those three games have improved dramatically after yesterday's performance. Also, we have somehow managed to do only as badly as the teams around us while having that dimwit Lambert in charge, so in my view it's unlikely that with a new manager we're going to do worse to the extent we'd have to, to go down.
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There's a summary of who each of the relegation battle here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31892314
It seems to me that Hull have by far the toughest run-in overall - Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool are their next 3 games; and also have Man U, Southampton, Burnley and Spurs to play.
QPR also have a tough run-in, I think Leicester are already down (or at least won't catch us), and I think Sunderland will need a new manager bounce not to get sucked in.
I think the equivalent of 9 points will do for us, but our tough April and the postponement of the QPR game, will probably mean it's going to be squeaky all the way to May.
On current form, it's possible for us to get something out of each of our home games (Swansea, Everton, West Ham, QPR, Burnley); but will be tough to get much out of our away games (Man U, Spurs, Man C, Southampton).
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We now have to get at least one point more than Hull, one point less than Sunderland, two points less than Burnley, five points less QPR and/or 8 points less than Leicester. Any three out of those five things happening will see us safe. We have better form, more confidence and better players than all those teams. I'm not worried any more.
I am still worried. We have three games we will do well to get anything from. So we need to get our points from the remaining six.
I will be a lot less worried if we beat Swansea.
Every one of those teams has games against big sides, writing them off as not even worth turning up is what McLeish and Lambert have done for the last 4 years, I suspect we will see a very different approach this tie round and I wouldn't be surprised to see 2-3 points from those games.
The way I feel now, I'll be disappointed with any fewer than nine!
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Sherwood has said there is lots of work to be done. I don't think he will allow any complacency.
I agree. Even in Benteke's tweet he mentioned 9 cup finals so I don't think anyone is taking anything for granted. All we have is 6 very valuable points and a lot of momentum but one bad game and it can all feel very different. I hope that not only do we play 9 brilliant cup finals but end the season with 11 cup final wins as opposed to 9!
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We now have to get at least one point more than Hull, one point less than Sunderland, two points less than Burnley, five points less QPR and/or 8 points less than Leicester. Any three out of those five things happening will see us safe. We have better form, more confidence and better players than all those teams. I'm not worried any more.
I am still worried. We have three games we will do well to get anything from. So we need to get our points from the remaining six.
I will be a lot less worried if we beat Swansea.
Are we the only side down the bottom that have 3 games remaining that will be hard to win then?
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Whilst we are still not out of the woods and will rarely meet such inept opponents, it is a pleasure to see things such as players moving off the ball with purpose and with a forward momentum, players willing to pass it forward quickly and to feet, players taking opponents on and beating them, composure in the penalty area with players calmly "passing" the ball into the back of the net rather than swinging wildly at the ball, and players who had previously clearly been going through the motions showing enthusiasm and commitment. And width - I'd almost forgotten what it was like to see Villa wingers and overlapping fullbacks bombing down the flanks, and as everyone except Lambert could have told you, Benteke is beginning to reap the benefits. The first goal yesterday went from Guzan to Benteke to back of the net in 5 crisp, precise passes, three of them one-touch. It was like Alan Partridge's liquid football. Under Lambert we'd have passed it sideways for 5 minutes. In many ways it's just simple "tweaks" that every man and his dog bar one could see were required, and to Sherwood's credit it hasn't taken him long to introduce the blindingly obvious. But so far, what a damning indictment of his predecessors managerial ability.
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I actually think we will get a point against spurs now , where two weeks ago I didn't.
Sherwood will have us up for that game.
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
Funnily enough the handful of noses I know have gone quiet too.
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
I spoke to my Dad this morning. He was at the Blues match yesterday. He mentioned our match and said that during the first half, all people sat around him were talking about was stuff along the lines of "God, Villa have scored again".
Obsessed doesn't even begin to cover it.
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
I spoke to my Dad this morning. He was at the Blues match yesterday. He mentioned our match and said that during the first half, all people sat around him were talking about was stuff along the lines of "God, Villa have scored again".
Obsessed doesn't even begin to cover it.
At the risk of sounding obsessed myself, I was enjoying thinking about the Sty-dwellers hearing our half-time score yesterday.
Nice to know your dad's hearing is so good. Most of the people sat 'around' him were probably about ten yards away.
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
Despite the fact they will stay up (which is always an achievement for them) and wouldn't have won the cup anyway we have managed to totally spoil their season by beating them twice. Their only thought and ambition now will be trying to finish at least one place above us.
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Some Villa fans are far too obsessed about Blues and Albion fans being obsessed with us. At the risk of sounding obsessed I am going to be keeping a very close eye on any of you who obsessively go on about the continual obsession that they so clearly have about us.
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I actually think we will get a point against spurs now , where two weeks ago I didn't.
Sherwood will have us up for that game.
If Spurs play like they did today, I reckon we will be 5-0 by half time as even a shite team like Man Ure got 3
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
Despite the fact they will stay up (which is always an achievement for them) and wouldn't have won the cup anyway we have managed to totally spoil their season by beating them twice. Their only thought and ambition now will be trying to finish at least one place above us.
Clearly obsessed about their obsession to finish one place above us.
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West Brom fear "the dream is over". Guess what the dream is? http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=550&fid=255&sty=2&act=1&mid=2110171232
Despite the fact they will stay up (which is always an achievement for them) and wouldn't have won the cup anyway we have managed to totally spoil their season by beating them twice. Their only thought and ambition now will be trying to finish at least one place above us.
Assuming we go on and finish the job of staying up, we and they will know that the catalyst was playing them at home. They had a chance to inflict a huge blow which could have been detrimental and they didn't take it. They can keep hold of that memory.
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
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I've just watched the highlights on motd on iplayer. We got the grand total of 7 minutes 55 seconds despite being on first.
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I've just watched the highlights on mot on iplayer. We got the grand total of 7 minutes 55 seconds despite being on first.
What should they have shown that they missed out?
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I've just watched the highlights on mot on iplayer. We got the grand total of 7 minutes 55 seconds despite being on first.
What should they have shown that they missed out?
I do remember Delph nearly making it 5-0 right on half time with a low shot that flashed wide. They didn't show that. Can't think of anything else.
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
You two are a bundle of fun, I split up with my missus every xmas and will have been married 25 years in June
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I'm approaching 14 years of sheer misery.
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I'm approaching 14 years of sheer misery.
Dont try and upstage me, my missus is a cockernee as well and hates football, miserable lady she is, heaven knows why living with me
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My wife complimented me yesterday on getting the 'furniture-throwing' phase after a Villa defeat down to a bare twenty minutes. She says I'm maturing
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
just checking- not the same girl is it ?
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
just checking- not the same girl is it ?
If it was I wish he'd have kept her. Was your's black jimmygreen?
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
just checking- not the same girl is it ?
If it was I wish he'd have kept her. Was your's black jimmygreen?
And the only thing that got me through the dark times was Boys Boys Boys by Sabrina.
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And the only thing that got me through the dark times was Boys Boys Boys by Sabrina.
Arguably NSFW. but then they did show it on TOTP and that back in the day.
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Never mind NSFW I've had to mute it lest the missus asks what I'm watching.
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First time I saw that video was on Europe's top 10 on Central. It was also on there that I first saw the unedited Belouis Some video. TOTP either had her in the studio or showed an edited version of the video.
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she's not a very confident swimmer, is she
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She is the spitting image of my missus :-(
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Best pair up front since Gabby and Christian.
In terms of relegation I think Leicester are gone and QPR close behind. Then any one between Burnley, Sunderland, us and Hull.
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One of the great pop videos of all time. And one that I just had to delete that from my browsing history.
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*Googles Belouis Some video*
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*Googles Belouis Some video*
*doesn't need to*
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She seems to be one of those classic italian ladies who are even more beautiful in middle age than in youth.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Sabrina_Salerno_30_October_2010_2.jpg)
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*Googles Belouis Some video*
FFS! Why am I only aware of that 30 years after the event?!
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*Googles Belouis Some video*
NSFW
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One for the over 40 thread.
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*Googles Belouis Some video*
FFS! Why am I only aware of that 30 years after the event?!
Should have watched Europe's Top 10! It was great for videos you never normally saw.
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
just checking- not the same girl is it ?
If it was I wish he'd have kept her. Was your's black jimmygreen?
No Percy - her Dad was French, she was pretty, dirty and I was batting up the order somewhat.
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A woman tweeted that she'd get Gabby's name tattooed on her arse if he scored against Sunderland.
Now, she's going through with it:
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/scores-ll-tattoed-bum-Staffordshire-woman-s-pre/story-26177178-detail/story.html?
She's doing it for Acorns if anyone wants to donate, but insist on getting proof that she did it...
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A woman tweeted that she'd get Gabby's name tattooed on her arse if he scored against Sunderland.
Now, she's going through with it:
http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/scores-ll-tattoed-bum-Staffordshire-woman-s-pre/story-26177178-detail/story.html?
She's doing it for Acorns if anyone wants to donate, but insist on getting proof that she did it...
He scored twice - does she have a big enough Arse for Agbonlahor - Agbonlahor ? One on each cheek perhaps!
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I got "Gabby" tattooed on my tallywhacker. When I get a stiffy the full tattoo says "Gabby Gabby Gabby Gabby Gabby Agbolahor, he's fast as fuck, he's fast as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck".
(http://therealrevo.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/badum-tish.jpg)
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And the only thing that got me through the dark times was Boys Boys Boys by Sabrina.
Arguably NSFW. but then they did show it on TOTP and that back in the day.
Wunderbar or fair pair as we say in Walmley. Oh I miss those days of lads holidays in Mallorca, late 80s.
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She seems to be one of those classic italian ladies who are even more beautiful in middle age than in youth.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6e/Sabrina_Salerno_30_October_2010_2.jpg)
Italian woman are a bit like Greek women in that sense, they flourish around 42/43 and then fall off the edge of a cliff quite rapidly in the following years
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I really liked Spagna, not so much now though although she is nearly 60.
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Two years of blissful happiness now. Yes that's right we split up then.
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I've not seen a back post butted header that good since Garry Thompson's second at the Sty, Christmas '87.
Me and my missus split up on Christmas Day '87. I was such a little nobhead then.
I got with one of my exes on Christmas Eve '87. It was the beginning of a ten year nightmare (apart from two nice kids). Thanks for reminding me of that.
just checking- not the same girl is it ?
If it was I wish he'd have kept her. Was your's black jimmygreen?
And the only thing that got me through the dark times was Boys Boys Boys by Sabrina.
The only thing that got Elton John through the dark times of his marriage to Renate was boys, boys, boys.
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Well, This got off track...
I thought the only negative from Saturday was Weimann still looks completely useless on the pitch.
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Italian woman are a bit like Greek women in that sense, they flourish around 42/43 and then fall off the edge of a cliff quite rapidly in the following years
For personal reasons, I hope not.
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Italian woman are a bit like Greek women in that sense, they flourish around 42/43 and then fall off the edge of a cliff quite rapidly in the following years
For personal reasons, I hope not.
It's all the carbs. One day everything is fine, the next they become a floatation device.
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Italian woman are a bit like Greek women in that sense, they flourish around 42/43 and then fall off the edge of a cliff quite rapidly in the following years
For personal reasons, I hope not.
Indian women and Italian women make a pact with the devil. Beauty in youth and then they get mahoosive.
Obviously that's a ridiculous sweeping generalisation and where it is true may be a price worth paying for a lifetime of eating Italian or Indian food
In fact, my brother I goes out with a Sicilian girl and he's practically doubled in size since
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Italian woman are a bit like Greek women in that sense, they flourish around 42/43 and then fall off the edge of a cliff quite rapidly in the following years
For personal reasons, I hope not.
Indian women and Italian women make a pact with the devil. Beauty in youth and then they get mahoosive.
Obviously that's a ridiculous sweeping generalisation and where it is true may be a price worth paying for a lifetime of eating Italian or Indian food
In fact, my brother I goes out with a Sicilian girl and he's practically doubled in size since
My misses has doubled in size and she's not Italian and can't cook, it's all a bit of a bugger really
Still love her to bits though.....obviously
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Well, This got off track...
H&V goes off on more tangents than a bunch of pissed up mathematicians.
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Italian woman are a bit like Greek women in that sense, they flourish around 42/43 and then fall off the edge of a cliff quite rapidly in the following years
For personal reasons, I hope not.
Indian women and Italian women make a pact with the devil. Beauty in youth and then they get mahoosive.
Obviously that's a ridiculous sweeping generalisation and where it is true may be a price worth paying for a lifetime of eating Italian or Indian food
In fact, my brother I goes out with a Sicilian girl and he's practically doubled in size since
My anecdotal evidence suggests this isn't the case.
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Well, This got off track...
H&V goes off on more tangents than a bunch of pissed up mathematicians.
Technically they are not tangents - but I'm not a good enough Mathematician to explain why.
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*Googles Belouis Some video*
FFS! Why am I only aware of that 30 years after the event?!
Should have watched Europe's Top 10! It was great for videos you never normally saw.
The weird thing is we had the early incarnation of Sky in Milton Keynes in the 80s on cable (called Sky Channel) and it was almost non stop European pop music. I can't believe I haven't seen that before as a result, as they didn't care what they played.
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Anyway back to the match. I feel a bit sorry for Poyet and wouldn't be surprised if he goes today. John O'Shea's awful mistake against Gabby and then making no attempt to rectify the mistake suggests he has lost the team. Potent had the look of a rabbit in headlights after the match.
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In saying that Gabby has got little credit for what was either a mis-hit or a brilliant finish.
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Anyway back to the match. I feel a bit sorry for Poyet and wouldn't be surprised if he goes today. John O'Shea's awful mistake against Gabby and then making no attempt to rectify the mistake suggests he has lost the team. Potent had the look of a rabbit in headlights after the match.
Wes Brown's interview after the game was embarrassing!
F**k knows what Sunderland fans thought!
His body language on the pitch and words/attitude in the interview were a gift for a psychology student.
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Wes Brown is being made to train on his own now after that.
(http://www.powerinaunion.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/baked-bean-toast-300x214.jpg)
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Brown and O'Shea might be the most bobbins CH pairing in the league right now. Both are well past it, and were only ever average at best.
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Mate of mine was in the Metro Centre in Newcastle on Saturday and said at about 4.15pm he was suddenly aware of a lot of people walking round in Sunderland shirts, he knew they were at home and checked his phone to see what was going on. Said it made a traipse round a shopping centre more fun than it was ever going to be.
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Wes Brown is being made to train on his own now after that.
(http://www.powerinaunion.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/baked-bean-toast-300x214.jpg)
I assume that's a 'has-bean'
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Remember when Alex Ferguson said Brown was the best defender in the world
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Remember when Alex Ferguson said Brown was the best defender in the world
Never listen to fergie
Example McLeish
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Well, This got off track...
I thought the only negative from Saturday was Weimann still looks completely useless on the pitch.
May need to replace him in the summer with a better option. Danny Ings of course would be great, but I also like the look of Patrick Bamford who is on loan at Middlesborough from Chelsea.
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Brown and O'Shea might be the most bobbins CH pairing in the league right now. Both are well past it, and were only ever average at best.
Up until yesterday both were having relatively solid seasons. Harsh on both to be honest, Brown's career has been destroyed by injuries. O'Shea was a very useful utility player for Man United. Both were probably their sides respective best players in the CL finals of 2008 (Brown) and 2009 (O'Shea). Both have done pretty well for Sunderland generally since they arrived.
The money their last few managers have wasted on a load of flops both on the pitch and sideline is the reason they are struggling. Rodwell (10m), Bridcutt (3m), Buckley (2.5m), Altidore (8.5m), Giaccherini (6.5m), Johnson (10m), Fletcher (12m), Graham (5m), N'Diaye (3m), Wickham (8m). Their squad is really poor and unless someone like Wickham can finish the season strongly then they look in serious trouble.
Keane, Bruce, O'Neill, Di Canio and Poyet have a lot to answer for. Bruce was struggling by the end but perhaps should have been given more time. The other four wont manage in the top division again.
Its a disgrace, considering the players we have in comparison, that we are only two points above them.
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Brown and O'Shea might be the most bobbins CH pairing in the league right now. Both are well past it, and were only ever average at best.
To be fair they both had a good game against us in the nil nil draw at VP last season. They played with their heads like the seasoned pros they are but the sands of time seem to have caught up with them. How did Wes do on Family Fortunes on Sunday night? I think his family were up against Jamelia's.
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Bear in mind that game at VP, we barely entered their third of the pitch. Now wonder they looked decent. They didn't even need to be there. That game was horrible to watch.
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Do people mean the 0-0 draw last season or the one in December that was quickly followed by a 0-0 with palace .
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Poyet Sacked at Sunderland
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Poyet Sacked at Sunderland
Shit, i was hoping he`d stick around to finish the job!! (nothing against the club, just survival of the selfishest!).
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Poyet Sacked at Sunderland
No surprise there then!
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Roy Keane was sitting there watching them on Saturday. Would they?
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Poyet Sacked at Sunderland
Do you remember 2007, when we were regularly getting other clubs' managers the sack? Jol from Spurs, Mourinho from Chelsea and Bruce from Blues
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Roy Keane was sitting there watching them on Saturday. Would they?
Yes they would, or Lambert at 33/1.
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Poyet Sacked at Sunderland
Do you remember 2007, when we were regularly getting other clubs' managers the sack? Jol from Spurs, Mourinho from Chelsea and Bruce from Blues
We got a few Newcastle managers sacked I think, Bobby Robson and Souness maybe?
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You watch lambert go there and turn them into brazil 1970
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You watch lambert go there and turn them into brazil 1970
Alan Brazil 1970 more like
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You watch lambert go there and turn them into brazil 1970
Alan Brazil 1970 more like
Funny you mention Alan Brazil, The Secret Footballer recently mentioned what a bunch of pissheads the Sunderland players are. A real flashback to the 1970's drinking culture.
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Roy Keane was sitting there watching them on Saturday. Would they?
Yes they would, or Lambert at 33/1.
Sunderland are going to love us.
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Or what about Keane, with Lambert as his assistant?
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And McLeish as Director of Football and O'Leary as chief scout.
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You watch lambert go there and turn them into brazil 1970
Alan Brazil 1970 more like
Funny you mention Alan Brazil, The Secret Footballer recently mentioned what a bunch of pissheads the Sunderland players are. A real flashback to the 1970's drinking culture.
Is it just me that wouldn't be surprised to find out that Adam Johnson was one of the first in the bar every night?
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There is no way on gods earth that they will appoint Lambert
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You watch lambert go there and turn them into brazil 1970
Alan Brazil 1970 more like
Funny you mention Alan Brazil, The Secret Footballer recently mentioned what a bunch of pissheads the Sunderland players are. A real flashback to the 1970's drinking culture.
Is it just me that wouldn't be surprised to find out that Adam Johnson was one of the first in the bar every night?
Probably. Ordering a coke and a packet of crisps for his girlfriend outside.
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McClaren?
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advocaat is favorite, looked like they had already had too much of that saturday
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McClaren?
he isn't leaving Derby to go there. He ruled himself out of our job because he wanted to see this season through, and especially with them sitting 4th, 2pts off first. Now if they don't go up I can see him at Newcastle next season.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
If people think it's our "turn" to go down because we have "become the new Wigan" and have "stunk out" this division for several years then that applies with brass knobs on to Sunderland.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
If people think it's our "turn" to go down because we have "become the new Wigan" and have "stunk out" this division for several years then that applies with brass knobs on to Sunderland.
That's true. although I'd still prefer Gustavo to be in charge, just to seal their fate.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
If people think it's our "turn" to go down because we have "become the new Wigan" and have "stunk out" this division for several years then that applies with brass knobs on to Sunderland.
That's true. although I'd still prefer Gustavo to be in charge, just to seal their fate.
Don't worry, 800 year old deceased former football manager Dick Advocaat will do it instead, this season's Felix Magath.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
If people think it's our "turn" to go down because we have "become the new Wigan" and have "stunk out" this division for several years then that applies with brass knobs on to Sunderland.
That's true. although I'd still prefer Gustavo to be in charge, just to seal their fate.
Don't worry, 800 year old deceased former football manager Dick Advocaat will do it instead, this season's Felix Magath.
Their Felix Magath appointment
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
Its awful, they would be better off going down to be honest. Get in a new manager to gut the squad and come back up with a proper team.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
Its awful, they would be better off going down to be honest. Get in a new manager to gut the squad and come back up with a proper team.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I know we played well, but blimey the defending for the second and third goals in particular was horrific.
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There is no way on gods earth that they will appoint Lambert
And neither will any other club with any ambition
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There is no way on gods earth that they will appoint Lambert
And neither will any other club with any ambition
I reckon he'll be a Celtic manager one day.
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advocaat is favorite, looked like they had already had too much of that saturday
It could snowball out of control.
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He could be the cherry on the top.
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cocktail of disasters led to him going
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Remember when Alex Ferguson said Brown was the best defender in the world
Never listen to fergie
Example McLeish
And Djemba- Djemba
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
Completely agree. I said similar when Redknapp left QPR. It didn't matter who they got in they're absolutely awful apart from Austin, where as if we got someone halfway competent we'd probably be Ok as our squad, although not top quality should be plenty good enough for 12-8th and anything approaching that sort of form should see us safe.
You can't polish a turd and QPR and Leicester are absolute turds squad wise.
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Remember when Alex Ferguson said Brown was the best defender in the world
Not defending Fergie, but I would be interested to see how many times Brown and O'Shea played together as the centre-back pairing for United? I'd wager not many. They were always alongside somebody good most likely.
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Sunderland's fixtures until the end of the season look very good, so I would be surprised if they went down with those. Hull's look awful though.
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A bit pissed off Sunderland pulled the trigger at the appropriate time. They were terrible on Saturday, a new manager bounce is the last thing we need.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
Completely agree. I said similar when Redknapp left QPR. It didn't matter who they got in they're absolutely awful apart from Austin, where as if we got someone halfway competent we'd probably be Ok as our squad, although not top quality should be plenty good enough for 12-8th and anything approaching that sort of form should see us safe.
You can't polish a turd and QPR and Leicester are absolute turds squad wise.
I don't think Sunderlands squad is all that terrible. Defoe and Fletcher are limited but both can score goals, Wickham is a decent target man, Larsson is a good free kick taker, O'Shea and Brown are better than they looked at the weekend and Pantilimon is a decent keeper. It's the midfield that's dire, with Johnson out indefinitely they've got no creativity (far less than us even though it's been our weakness as well) and they don't even have players that can offer more if used better, Cattermole is their best option, which is pretty damning.
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Sunderland were a shambles on Saturday. Hopefully they will not have a bounce, except to pollute the Championship.
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Its difficult to see what any manager can do with that squad of Sunderland's.
I always looked at ours and thought that we had players in there, good ones on their day, but I look at Sunderland and see a lot of dross.
Completely agree. I said similar when Redknapp left QPR. It didn't matter who they got in they're absolutely awful apart from Austin, where as if we got someone halfway competent we'd probably be Ok as our squad, although not top quality should be plenty good enough for 12-8th and anything approaching that sort of form should see us safe.
You can't polish a turd and QPR and Leicester are absolute turds squad wise.
I don't think Sunderlands squad is all that terrible. Defoe and Fletcher are limited but both can score goals, Wickham is a decent target man, Larsson is a good free kick taker, O'Shea and Brown are better than they looked at the weekend and Pantilimon is a decent keeper. It's the midfield that's dire, with Johnson out indefinitely they've got no creativity (far less than us even though it's been our weakness as well) and they don't even have players that can offer more if used better, Cattermole is their best option, which is pretty damning.
Cattermole is basically a thug who just fouls people. If he's Sunderland's best player then god help them.
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BBC reckon that Avocaat is already in Sunnerlan. Taking training tomorrow I gather.
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Where's Davey B when he's needed?