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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on January 26, 2013, 04:39:56 PM
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Tuesday 29.1.13 KO 7:45pm
They will score more than us.
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0-3. The crowd to seriously turn on Lambert and, at long long last, on the ownership.
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0-3. The crowd to seriously turn on Lambert and, at long long last, on the ownership.
Saves me typing - totally agree.
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1-3 defeat. RDM to replace PL by Thursday 31st Jan. PL will sue for ''constructive dismissal'' My bold probably mad prediction!
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0-0 draw and I can predict that VCTM and VCTM jnr will NOT be making the 200 mile round trip.
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0-3. The crowd to seriously turn on Lambert and, at long long last, on the ownership.
I'm trying not to think about but this.
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0v5 Benteke injured, Vlaar sent off and Ashley to do the truffle shuffle
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A test of our philosophy of 'don't spend in case you go down' against a club who have spent because they want to stay up.
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Just - oh, dear
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Newcastle's abundance of French players (ten?) creates a massive split in the camp.
Villa wounded by the negative headlines of the last week, adopt a siege mentality
and fight back confounding the sage like Savage, and his Salford based chums.
Newcastle head back north angry and defeated, their season is about to get even worse.
Pardew is sacked and heads south, a little less smug but considerably richer.
Until 7.45 on Tuesday, that's what I'm going to day dream about. It sure beats the alternative.
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Another spiritless defeat. Only this one will be accompanied by fat shirtless men jiggling their bitch tits while holding up a banner that says "WHO'S YOUR NEXT SAVIOUR - PRINCE WILLIAM OR TOM HANKS?"
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The most inevitable defeat since last night. 0-2
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A game we simply cannot afford to lose. Look through our own doom and gloom and Newcastle's form is equally poor. We may be jealous of their willingness to make new signings but they may take months to settle. I'm backing Villa to fight back and bring pride back to the shirt. 2-1 Villa.
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4-0 Newcastle. 3-0 up at halftime. Delph sent off
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4-2 to the villa 3 goals in first half then 2 for Newcastle early in the second half which goes to squeak bum time before Benteke bulldozes through the Newcastle defence for the 4th!
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Another spiritless defeat. Only this one will be accompanied by fat shirtless men jiggling their bitch tits while holding up a banner that says "WHO'S YOUR NEXT SAVIOUR - PRINCE WILLIAM OR TOM HANKS?"
This is true. Their fans will justifiably rub it in after the game a few years ago - and that's fine, if we dish it out we have to take it. The point is, if it does go bitch-tits up on Tuesday the board have to get it with both barrels from the crowd.
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Our best chance is if we can cancel half time ..
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Our best chance is if we can cancel half time ..
Our best chance is to cancel the match.
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3-1 Newcastle. The one to us is me being an optimist. As mentioned, their fans will have a ball at our expense.
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0-2 defeat.
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3-1 to Newcastle.
Pardew has been saying that the new signings have made his existing players 'go up a gear in training.'
All they need to do is play for corners and it's game over.
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3-1 to Newcastle.
Pardew has been saying that the new signings have made his existing players 'go up a gear in training.'
All they need to do is play for corners and it's game over.
They've gone up a gear, we're stalling badly.
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Absolutely must win. So were the Wigan/Soton games though. To win must win games you need bottle. So on that note I'll go for 2-0 to them and VP finally turning on Lerner/Lambert.
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I can hardly see us winning a throw in, never mind the game.
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3-1 to Newcastle.
Pardew has been saying that the new signings have made his existing players 'go up a gear in training.'
All they need to do is play for corners and it's game over.
They've gone up a gear, we're stalling badly.
Some cu.nt has nicked our engine.
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They've got new signings which have apparently lifted them . We can't defend corners. Think we'll score but so will they. Can't see anything but another loss. 3-2 to them
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They been on poor run of form but where doing ok against Reading till Cabaye went off.Just don't see we can turn things around the players confidence is shot and the fans are going to be nervy as hell.
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1-1, Ba and Weimann.
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4-0 Newcastle. 3-0 up at halftime. Delph sent off
Oh lord, are we really playing another football match already? Surely, there must be an international break due. And twould bebetter if Delph does not get sent on.
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Fuck it I'll go for a 2-0 home win
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1-1, Ba and Weimann.
Ba..... Dalian Atkinson might come on to nick the winner for the Villa.
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5-2 newcastle us 2 up half time
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1-0 Villa. With extra time stretching into infinity and everyone on the Holte growing a long white beard
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Their midfield will walk all over us, with players trying to make an impression for their new club, whilst ours will just wave them through, 1-4 to them with us hanging on to make the score respectably and Lambert ready to say 'we go again'. Just a bloody nightmare!
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Another spiritless defeat. Only this one will be accompanied by fat shirtless men jiggling their bitch tits while holding up a banner that says "WHO'S YOUR NEXT SAVIOUR - PRINCE WILLIAM OR TOM HANKS?"
This is true. Their fans will justifiably rub it in after the game a few years ago - and that's fine, if we dish it out we have to take it. The point is, if it does go bitch-tits up on Tuesday the board have to get it with both barrels from the crowd.
Didn't they rub it in enough when they came back up and beat us 6-0?
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With all this negativity, the "Man Up! Grow a pair!" post can't be too far away.
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Delph to be booked in the 19th minute and subbed in the 72nd.
Bannan to hit 17 consecutive corners out for throw ins.
Newcastle to score from their 2nd corner
Jordan Bowery to score 4
Agbonlahor to continue to stake his claim to be the most gormless man to ever play football for a living
Lerner to order 43,000 flags in time for the next home game
Lambert to mumble the words 'We go again' at some stage
Toon Army to relish rubbing the Holte End's noses in it after a comfortable win for the French
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With all this negativity, the "Man Up! Grow a pair!" post can't be too far away.
I've manned up and grown a pair of bitch tits
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We go again and the game ends in a straightforward 2-0 win for Newcastle.
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Man up! Grow a pair! Stiffen the sinews and the upper lip.
Anybody dressing up as laydee to sneak into a lifeboat will be keel hauled.
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Us 1 Them as many as they can be bothered to score.
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If reports are true lets hope lerner is at the game so he can see just how bad things are - and get both barrels.
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I cannot man up any further. I am already as masculine as the East German women's sprint team
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We desperately need to win.
We won't.
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0-0. More dreadful relegation inducing horseshit from Lambert's Lambs
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0-3 away win. Goals from PJ, Duncan and Raoul Moat.
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I will once again assume the position. It wouldn't be half as bad if they used lube.
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0-2
Sigh.
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With all this negativity, the "Man Up! Grow a pair!" post can't be too far away.
And I'd rather not if you don't mind.
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Maybe we can instigate a change in the rules of the game, whereby if they win a corner, the referee has the discretion to award a penalty kick instead? I think we would stand more of a chance defending it.
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Maybe we can instigate a change in the rules of the game, whereby if they win a corner, the referee has the discretion to award a penalty kick instead? I think we would stand more of a chance defending it.
Guzan is pretty good against penalties.
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I can't see us winning again ever, let alone this match. 0-3.
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We're shit Newcastle are shit 0 0
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Villa - Newcastle 3 - 2 FT (3 - 0 HT).
Brilliant first half. Awful second half.
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0-2
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0-2
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0-3 away win. Goals from PJ, Duncan and Raoul Moat.
Don't be so silly. Moat was replaced by Donna Air and PJ is suspended.
Jimmy Nail and that woman from Loose Women (Denise Welsh?) to score with Johnny Halliday to star on his debut.
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Just had a look at the ticket map thingy on the OS. I'll be amazed if the gate exceeds 30,000
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A surprise 3-2 win followed by the worst run by any team in top-flight history and relegation by the end of March culminating in a queue forming in the upper tiers of the stands to hurl ourselves off during the Chelsea match in an Aztec-like appeasement of some Demon-god we have annoyed.
NURSE!
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A surprise 3-2 win followed by the worst run by any team in top-flight history and relegation by the end of March culminating in a queue forming in the upper tiers of the stands to hurl ourselves off during the Chelsea match in an Aztec-like appeasement of some Demon-god we have annoyed.
NURSE!
I'm surprised that nobody during the Bradford game decided to launch themselves over the balcony of the Upper Trinity and into the director's box.
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2-1 Villa.
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A surprise 3-2 win followed by the worst run by any team in top-flight history and relegation by the end of March culminating in a queue forming in the upper tiers of the stands to hurl ourselves off during the Chelsea match in an Aztec-like appeasement of some Demon-god we have annoyed.
NURSE!
I'm surprised that nobody during the Bradford game decided to launch themselves over the balcony of the Upper Trinity and into the director's box.
We were too busy trying to help win the game!
However if we lose in a similar fashion to the Wigan game maybe a trip to the front of the Upper Trinity will be in order
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1-1, Ba and Weimann.
Will he latch on to a Beardsley cross?
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1 - 1... We are both way too sh1t to win this game.
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0-3 with Lambert leaving the next day which will be a bit like putting your seatbelt on after the impact.
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Lambert will have no idea how to prepare for Pardeux's new French collection. With all of them trying to impress and fight for new positions I can't even see us coming within 3 goals. We are so soft, and another heavy defeat at home and the crowd is going to turn on Lambo and his habitual indifference to losing. I hope we score, but we probably won't. Please, no Bannan. Score, score, and keep scoring.. No Coloccini.
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2-1 Villa win.
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Lambert will have no idea how to prepare for Pardeux's new French collection. With all of them trying to impress and fight for new positions I can't even see us coming within 3 goals. We are so soft, and another heavy defeat at home and the crowd is going to turn on Lambo and his habitual indifference to losing. I hope we score, but we probably won't. Please, no Bannan. Score, score, and keep scoring.. No Coloccini.
Please don't mention bannan - i had got him out of my mind till ypur post.
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Lambert will have no idea how to prepare for Pardeux's new French collection. With all of them trying to impress and fight for new positions I can't even see us coming within 3 goals. We are so soft, and another heavy defeat at home and the crowd is going to turn on Lambo and his habitual indifference to losing. I hope we score, but we probably won't. Please, no Bannan. Score, score, and keep scoring.. No Coloccini.
Please don't mention bannan - i had got him out of my mind till ypur post.
I'm truly sorry, I feel your pain.
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Lambert will have no idea how to prepare for Pardeux's new French collection. With all of them trying to impress and fight for new positions I can't even see us coming within 3 goals. We are so soft, and another heavy defeat at home and the crowd is going to turn on Lambo and his habitual indifference to losing. I hope we score, but we probably won't. Please, no Bannan. Score, score, and keep scoring.. No Coloccini.
Please don't mention bannan - i had got him out of my mind till ypur post.
I'm truly sorry, I feel your pain.
Thank you , its like a nightmare thinking you will wake up and its all a bad dream .
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Some of you kids need to hide the cutlery.
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0-3 away win. Goals from PJ, Duncan and Raoul Moat.
Brilliant.
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We'll get one goal. They will score from one out of every three corners. So 3-1 to them.
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1-1, Ba and Weimann.
Will he latch on to a Beardsley cross?
:)
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1-1
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We'll get one goal. They will score from one out of every three corners. So 3-1 to them.
One thing i've noticed about our defending of corners is we only stick one player on the goal line now as opposed to two like we used to.
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I've drank quite a lot of Budweiser, and I think we will win.
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Think we'll get a draw at least. Don't know why really. Perhaps because they're nearly in as bad shape as us. 1-1
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A Villa win, no idea why really just a feeling.
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2-0 Villa, early first half goal, defend like mother fuckers get a goal in last 10 mins, and spend that time telling le code à barres that they are descente.
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1-1 Benteke
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I predict a riot.
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An awful, diabolically dull game until we score a screamer in the 87th minute, before losing 1-3
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I've drank quite a lot of Budweiser, and I think we will win.
I've drank a cup of Earl Grey and I know we won't
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Two nil Villa.
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Two nil Villa.
Thank you.
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Things are rarely straight forward at Villa. Get stuffed and PL has to go, win and it's the faintest glimmer of hope he has a chance of keeping us up.
So then, a draw, more umming and arring about Lambert and the window closes.
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I will predict with certainty that I will come from the ground unhappy. If we lose we are down. If we draw we are down. If we win - God help us - we will think we are safe and will ship fifteen goals in the next three games. Every "turning point" we have had this season has presaged a turn for the worse. Sorry but that is how I feel.
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If we can't keep out lower league sides how can we keep out Premiership ones now? ---------------we are on form a League 2 side with,apart from maybe 4 players, a League 2 quality squad!
For all his faults,Doug would have got rid of Lambert weeks ago, as he prized our 'preeemiership' tag so much.
Worst villa squad we have ever had,Lambert seems tactically lost ------------0-2
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3- 1 Villa, followed by a 2- 1 win against Everton and some relief for a while.
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Not a hope in hell of getting anything form this game and I'm afraid it will be the first nail in the coffin for relegation.....which is weird coming from me as I'm always optimistic but all the talk that Learner has given up has knocked all the wind out of my sails!
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3- 1 Villa, followed by a 2- 1 win against Everton and some relief for a while.
Dan, lay of the Dorada for a bit mate.
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3- 1 Villa, followed by a 2- 1 win against Everton and some relief for a while.
Winning 2 games in a row when we have difficulty even winning 1 game, conceding only 2 goals in 2 games, scoring 5 goals in 2 games, absolutely and utterly impossibilities!
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I predict we'll have most possession in the first half , passing it across the middle but getting nowhere, then get hit by a long bar-code goalies kick up field for the first goal and the usual corner shenanigans for there second.
If it wasn't our club, all this lately would be hilariously--------------we are the laughing stock of football and it tears mwe up to say it
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I hope this one isn't on the telly.
Is it?
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I hope this one isn't on the telly.
Is it?
Sky have got Martin O'Neill's Sunderland against Swansea.
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I hope this one isn't on the telly.
Is it?
Nope - its sunderland v swansea
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I hope this one isn't on the telly.
Is it?
Nope - its sunderland v swansea
Its on AL JAZ
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Aston Villa 1 Newcastle United 4
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Aston Villa: 2 Newcastle: however many corners we conceed
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Villa 0-4 Newcastle.
Got a bad feeling about this one. Again
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1-3
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Newcastle are particularly weak down the flanks especially in away matches. They also haven't won away this season and in 12 away prem matches. I m aware they signed a host of players who they are trying out for the first time. It can lead to confusion and errors as learning the other players/team style. Of course it can be an inspiration and strength newcastle have new faces. The fact is the signings haven't played in prem league and a great villa atmosphere can intimidate them.
I would say villa know how big this match is above all else. Whats lacking is a high level 90 minute performance. We can play well in patches but the fact is against a lower opposition we may not be punished if we dont play well. This is against a weak newcastle team who will play one up front. Villa actually win alot of aerial duals in top 4 of prem teams so will cope with newcastle long balls. Whats needed is a quicker tempo more possession play in opponents half not our own and strikers/attackers to work the channels. I feel if we win this we deserve to. I wanna see midfield pressing and getting ball forward quickly but in the right areas! UTV 2-1 villa
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Newcastle are particularly weak down the flanks especially in away matches. They also haven't won away this season and in 12 away prem matches. I m aware they signed a host of players who they are trying out for the first time. It can lead to confusion and errors as learning the other players/team style. Of course it can be an inspiration and strength newcastle have new faces. The fact is the signings haven't played in prem league and a great villa atmosphere can intimidate them.
I would say villa know how big this match is above all else. Whats lacking is a high level 90 minute performance. We can play well in patches but the fact is against a lower opposition we may not be punished if we dont play well. This is against a weak newcastle team who will play one up front. Villa actually win alot of aerial duals in top 4 of prem teams so will cope with newcastle long balls. Whats needed is a quicker tempo more possession play in opponents half not our own and strikers/attackers to work the channels. I feel if we win this we deserve to. I wanna see midfield pressing and getting ball forward quickly but in the right areas! UTV 2-1 villa
Problem is we knew how big wigan, soton, bradford were as well but we failed to deliver - i have not seen anything to make me think this will be any better.
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Its on over here. Not sure I fancy watching it.
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Its on over here. Not sure I fancy watching it.
You have to. Its the rules.
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A draw. Which will sort of be a relief but still not good enough.
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3-1 Villa..............I need my pills :o
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The usual.
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3-1 Villa..............I need my pills :o
Good lad Dan, stay with us, it's warmer on the sunny side of life.
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3-1 Villa..............I need my pills :o
Good lad Dan, stay with us, it's warmer on the sunny side of life.
It certainly is LeeB.
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Newcastle are particularly weak down the flanks especially in away matches. They also haven't won away this season and in 12 away prem matches. I m aware they signed a host of players who they are trying out for the first time. It can lead to confusion and errors as learning the other players/team style. Of course it can be an inspiration and strength newcastle have new faces. The fact is the signings haven't played in prem league and a great villa atmosphere can intimidate them.
I would say villa know how big this match is above all else. Whats lacking is a high level 90 minute performance. We can play well in patches but the fact is against a lower opposition we may not be punished if we dont play well. This is against a weak newcastle team who will play one up front. Villa actually win alot of aerial duals in top 4 of prem teams so will cope with newcastle long balls. Whats needed is a quicker tempo more possession play in opponents half not our own and strikers/attackers to work the channels. I feel if we win this we deserve to. I wanna see midfield pressing and getting ball forward quickly but in the right areas! UTV 2-1 villa
Problem is we knew how big wigan, soton, bradford were as well but we failed to deliver - i have not seen anything to make me think this will be any better.
quite right but its the next game is the only (positive) reasoning. There is always hope when we have a game like this on our hand s. We all know what happened in the past our focus is on this match. And thats all it can be ! UTV
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I get the feeling that Lambert will have to hold Culverhouse back from getting involved with the fans behind the dug out. This was following us being told about how he was behaving at the Bradford game. Culverhouse will still have the boos, from that game and Millwall, ringing in his ears and the fans he shouted at will be raring to have a pop at him.
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I get the feeling that Lambert will have to hold Culverhouse back from getting involved with the fans behind the dug out. Culverhouse will still have the boos, from that game and Millwall, ringing in his ears and the fans he shouted at will be raring to have a pop at him.
Early in the game there was a misplaced pass, followed by rumblings of discontent, and Culverhouse was straight of the dugout waving at the Holte End to "lift it".
I think it shows they're well aware how brittle confidence is.
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Shitehawks, just found out that they are taking the boat in on tuesday evening, so that means i will be able to watch it in some bar in Brindisi...great joy indeed
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Battered by all their new boys....4-0 and certs to go down :'(
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I hope this one isn't on the telly.
Is it?
It isn't but our next two gome games after that are!
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EPL's PL Pulls Plug on Pardew's Legion.
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I get the feeling that Lambert will have to hold Culverhouse back from getting involved with the fans behind the dug out. This was following us being told about how he was behaving at the Bradford game. Culverhouse will still have the boos, from that game and Millwall, ringing in his ears and the fans he shouted at will be raring to have a pop at him.
He also reacted angrily by the gates after the game when someone gave him a bit of stick- bit of a fiery one.
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Leave me out of this.
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I get the feeling that Lambert will have to hold Culverhouse back from getting involved with the fans behind the dug out. This was following us being told about how he was behaving at the Bradford game. Culverhouse will still have the boos, from that game and Millwall, ringing in his ears and the fans he shouted at will be raring to have a pop at him.
He also reacted angrily by the gates after the game when someone gave him a bit of stick- bit of a fiery one.
Can you enlighten us any further?
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I get the feeling that Lambert will have to hold Culverhouse back from getting involved with the fans behind the dug out. This was following us being told about how he was behaving at the Bradford game. Culverhouse will still have the boos, from that game and Millwall, ringing in his ears and the fans he shouted at will be raring to have a pop at him.
He also reacted angrily by the gates after the game when someone gave him a bit of stick- bit of a fiery one.
Can you enlighten us any further?
Yes i can but pm me jon,
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1-3 them
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Sad to say voted for a win for them , cannot see where our next point is coming from let alone win.
Unless the FA agree with my cunning plan to ban corners ....
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A match between 2 sides in deep trouble, one is trying to spend their way out of it, and the other is taking one hell of a chance, it will be interesting to see who got it right. I know where my bets going.
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This is game is a huge game for villa. Our league for this year is Southampton Newcastle Wigan et al southampton are sitting at the top read down for the rest one thing in our favour will be the ground it will be full of us the non glory hunters who turn up week in week out - the weakness will be the team - lets hope that the management give us some structure and pattern to our play that lasts for 90 minutes and doesnt blow itself out like a cheap firework - and - if we want to look on the bright side we are at rock bottom and the little team from WBA haven't beaten us.
so lets get at them Tuesday night All for one and all that
oh and whats the plan learner!!!
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Newcastle are out of both cups and a mere point above us. I can see us taking a point.
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Newcastle are out of both cups and a mere point above us. I can see us taking a point.
I think we need to win these games , im not sure a point would be enough.
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I've drank quite a lot of Budweiser, and I think we will win.
I havent and I think we'll lose.
But I think I'll start
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Guzan
Lowton, Vlar, Dunne, Clarke
N'Zogbia, Westwood, Delph, Gabby
Weimann or Bent, Benteke
No substitutions unless absolutely necessary, as the bringing on players from the bench only weakens the team.
Massive game, they are currently no better than us. First goal is crucial as they have as little confidence as we do.
UTV
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I agree with that team John with the exception of Gabby, who I think is the weakest member of our attack in almost every game and slows our attacks down hugely. Having said that, I'm not sure what I'd do otherwise.
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Guzan
Lowton, Vlar, Dunne, Clarke
N'Zogbia, Westwood, Delph, Gabby
Weimann or Bent, Benteke
No substitutions unless absolutely necessary, as the bringing on players from the bench only weakens the team.
Massive game, they are currently no better than us. First goal is crucial as they have as little confidence as we do.
UTV
Id be surprised if dunne is ready yet, he hasnt played for 6 months and cant be anywhere near matchfit yet after just a week of training.
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Id be surprised if dunne is ready yet, he hasnt played for 6 months and cant be anywhere near matchfit yet after just a week of training.
He'd still be better than the shower in there at the moment! And to be fair, he's hardly been match fit at any stage of his career.
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I agree with that team John with the exception of Gabby, who I think is the weakest member of our attack in almost every game and slows our attacks down hugely. Having said that, I'm not sure what I'd do otherwise.
I fear it's either him or BB.
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Why the sudden clamouring for Clark to play Left Back ?
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Why the sudden clamouring for Clark to play Left Back ?
lack of faith in him at centre back.
lack of faith in Stevens/Bennett at left back.
lack of alternatives in either position.
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Strongly considering avoiding this game completely. Feel bad about it and can't remember consciously doing it before but another 90 minutes reading about us playing like dipsticks again is enough to think of other things to do on Tuesday evening.
We've played three games since Newcastle last kicked a ball with little in the way of rotation. I think that leggyness combined with Newcastle's renewed impetus on the back of their new signings might be the most telling factor. Well, that and our general shiteness.
More chance of Richard Nixon's ghost haunting your dreams tonight than us winning this one I'm afraid.
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Why the sudden clamouring for Clark to play Left Back ?
lack of faith in him at centre back.
lack of faith in Stevens/Bennett at left back.
lack of alternatives in either position.
He should be left back - in the changing room.
Boom! Boom!
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If Dunne was even 50% fit I would start him and put Clark in the middle with Delph and Westwood. Charlie in behind Bent and Benteke.
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Guzan
Lowton, Vlar, Dunne, Clarke
N'Zogbia, Westwood, Delph, Gabby
Weimann or Bent, Benteke
No substitutions unless absolutely necessary, as the bringing on players from the bench only weakens the team.
Massive game, they are currently no better than us. First goal is crucial as they have as little confidence as we do.
UTV
Tis foolish indeed to leave Weimann out IMHO. I'd leave Bent on the Bentch along with Gabby and start Carruthers. Stevens at LB, he's better there than Clark. It's shit or bust time really!
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Has there been any news regarding Delph's injury?
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If Dunne was even 50% fit I would start him and put Clark in the middle with Delph and Westwood. Charlie in behind Bent and Benteke.
If Dunne is available it would be like three new signings, weight wise.
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If they score 1st (probably from a set piece) heads will drop and will lose. Soooo important we score 1st and put them under pressue - as they too are fragile.
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If Dunne was even 50% fit I would start him and put Clark in the middle with Delph and Westwood. Charlie in behind Bent and Benteke.
This
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Important that we get to half-time a lot-0.
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We have three natural goalscorers at the club. Weimann. Bent and Benteke. Play all three in 3-4-3.
Valar Dunne Baker (at the back)
Albrighton Westwood Delph Warnock (midfield)
forwards as above.
Wigan survived last season on 3-4-3. Pushing the fullbacks forward isn't working as they are poor. Play to our strengths. We have goalscorers.
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Albrighton is useless and injured, so I wouldn't include him.
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Need someone who can track back on the right had side of midfield. - Unless a team has at least one full back of the likes of Gidman, Ashley Cole, Kyle Walker etc who can turn defence into attack, why bother?
Our full backs are just not good enough even in a 3-5-2 system.
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1-0 defeat with Newcastle scoring a free header from a corner
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Albrighton is useless and injured, so I wouldn't include him.
Being useless is a pre-requisite for selection just now and Dunne's injured but may play so don't rule Albrighton out.
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1-0 defeat with Newcastle scoring a free header from a corner
You make it sound predictable. Like it will be Sissoko that scores.
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Newcastle haven't won away all season in the league, we all know the script so more pain im afraid.
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I'll go for a nervous 1-1 draw
Early goal for Benteke and late equaliser for them from some Frenchie
I'd line up with Guzan/Lowton Bennett Vlaar Dunne/Westwood Delph Holman/N'Zogbia Bent Benteke
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Newcastle will be relishing this game
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Newcastle are ONE entire point ahead of us, and have lost seven of their last ten games.
We have taken 10 points from the last 30. Newcastle have taken 7.
They also have not won a single away match this season.
They've strengthened well in this window, but that doesn't mean all their signings are going to fire immediately.
I totally appreciate our shitness, and it's hard to see us ever winning again sometimes, but let's not massively talk up the opposition when the facts suggest they don't really deserve it.
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Newcastle are ONE entire point ahead of us, and have lost seven of their last ten games.
We have taken 10 points from the last 30. Newcastle have taken 7.
They also have not won a single away match this season.
They've strengthened well in this window, but that doesn't mean all their signings are going to fire immediately.
I totally appreciate our shitness, and it's hard to see us ever winning again sometimes, but let's not massively talk up the opposition when the facts suggest they don't really deserve it.
That is absolutely true but Newcastle have tried to do something positive about their plight whereas we have not done anything at all. Pardew has already said that the current players have stepped up a gear due to the new arrivals, therefore the new arrivals have already had a direct influence. If you do nothing, nothing will happen akin to Villa!
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I totally appreciate our shitness, and it's hard to see us ever winning again sometimes, but let's not massively talk up the opposition when the facts suggest they don't really deserve it.
I think the defeatism has a lot to do with our inability to beat teams like Wigan and Southampton. Newcastle may be shit, but they're on their arse and we all what the best team to play is when you're in that position.
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Newcastle will be relishing this game
So am I. We will shit em! Up the Villa!
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I totally appreciate our shitness, and it's hard to see us ever winning again sometimes, but let's not massively talk up the opposition when the facts suggest they don't really deserve it.
I think the defeatism has a lot to do with our inability to beat teams like Wigan and Southampton. Newcastle may be shit, but they're on their arse and we all what the best team to play is when you're in that position.
I understand that, but really, this is a no-win situation if you take that mindset.
If we were playing Man City or Spurs we'd be saying "no chance, they're too good". So, we're playing an on-their-arse shit team, and it becomes "and who is the best team to play when you're on your arse".
Reading were on their arses when they came here, and how many points did they go away with?
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
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Newcastle will be relishing this game
So am I. We will shit em! Up the Villa!
Hurrah!
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
Excellent suggestion. Genuinely.
Forward it to the club.
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Newcastle are ONE entire point ahead of us, and have lost seven of their last ten games.
We have taken 10 points from the last 30. Newcastle have taken 7.
They also have not won a single away match this season.
They've strengthened well in this window, but that doesn't mean all their signings are going to fire immediately.
I totally appreciate our shitness, and it's hard to see us ever winning again sometimes, but let's not massively talk up the opposition when the facts suggest they don't really deserve it.
Well lets hope you are right. I am beyond believing this team will stop the free fall any time soon. If we go ahead by a goal I expect us to collapse, if we go behind by a goal I expect us to collapse, every corner feels like a penalty.
I dunno man, I feel we have supported the team and manager to an amazing degree. Time for them to start supporting us.
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New signings could play well ,bigger issues for us is Cabaye is fit.
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
Excellent suggestion. Genuinely.
Forward it to the club.
I'd demolish the Trinity and Witton Lane stands and make the pitch about 40 metres wider.
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Biggest league game in years.
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
Excellent suggestion. Genuinely.
Forward it to the club.
I'd demolish the Trinity and Witton Lane stands and make the pitch about 40 metres wider.
And dig up and waterlog the middle of the pitch; we don't need it.
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
Excellent suggestion. Genuinely.
Forward it to the club.
I'd demolish the Trinity and Witton Lane stands and make the pitch about 40 metres wider.
And dig up and waterlog the middle of the pitch; we don't need it.
Let's move to The Oval. We won the cup there and it doesn't have any corners.
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I'd rather our players intentionally gave away penalties than corners, we'd have a better chance of not conceding.
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I'd rather our players intentionally gave away penalties than corners, we'd have a better chance of not conceding.
When we get a corner it is no laughing party either: they be scorin from our fuckin corners! . Or throw ins for that matter.
Let's face it, we don't like a dead ball. Let's keep it live, just like Barrrrrthalonaaaa.
From the dead ball specialists to the dead ball deadbeats in the blink of an eye.
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Lambert to once again to go his old trusted Plan A tactic - 'gung-ho!'
Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Clark Bennett
N'Zogbia Bent Bowery Benteke Weimann Gabby
0-0.
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You ain't wrong Rudy. It be the Charge of the Lightweight Brigade all over again.
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We'll win this 2-0 Benteke, 26,71
Newcastle are shite.
UTV!!!
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I'm half tempted to go for a cavalier approach. We can't defend, we can't play in midfield but we have three decent strikers in Bent, Benteke and Weimann. I'd put all three of them in. As for the rest of the team god knows, shades of shite. Put Delph and Dunne in if they are fit and maybe put Clark in midfield where he causes less damage.
I still expect us to lose.
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
Excellent suggestion. Genuinely.
Forward it to the club.
I'd demolish the Trinity and Witton Lane stands and make the pitch about 40 metres wider.
We'd still be fucked. No wingers.
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Guzan
Lichaj, Dunne, Vlaar, Clark
Nzogbia, Westwood, Delph, Bennett
Bent, Benteke
Tough on Weimann maybe but he is a great sub to bring in anyway. Bent needs a player with a good delivery so would have Bennett in midfield for that reason only.
Is Herd available again?
Sick of Holman, Ireland and Bannan. Surely Carruthers is more worthy of a chance to come on than those 3 jokers at this stage
At least with the back 4 above we should be physically strong anyway. Sick of seeing our full backs getting destroyed physically.
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0-2 defeat. More misery
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We'll get at least a draw. I put money on Newcastle to win, and there are few greater forces in the universe more powerful than my ability to lose money on bets.
I also secured our premier league status by the way, at evens ;-)
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Villa Win, 3-1. Another game we CAN NOT lose! The players to understand what it means for once, and put in a performance.
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I think we'll win this, and I never think we'll win.
Just make sure the corner flags are well watered. I'm talking quicksand.
Excellent suggestion. Genuinely.
Forward it to the club.
I'd demolish the Trinity and Witton Lane stands and make the pitch about 40 metres wider.
Just stretch the pitch right up to the stand, they can't get a run up then.
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According to the form Stats... we stand a higher chance of loosing this one that newcastle...
http://www.eplindex.com/25256/how-sides-fared-top-and-bottom-teams-season.html?
We dont seem to be too bad against the top teams...
Our problem looks like its not winning the games against the teams around us..
Worrying really!
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can we start the barcodes post-match thread now, and get the moaning bitching and crestfallen, despondent dejected outbursts out the way?
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Why? We won 2-1.
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I don't think Lambert is able to motivate his players, especially after conceding a goal, based on the last few performances when we take a lead and then lose it, so the best I hope for is a draw, relying on the Bar Codes new players not yet gelling and a dose of wishful thinking.
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Todays press conference - Baker and delph very doubtful , dunne may be involved.
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Todays press conference - Baker and delph very doubtful , dunne may be involved.
Does that mean ''wee'' Barry in midfield again? I love those overhit corners!
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Todays press conference - Baker and delph very doubtful , dunne may be involved.
Does that mean ''wee'' Barry in midfield again? I love those overhit corners!
You promised not to mention him :(
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22 min Benteke
half time talk by Lambert
47 min white stripe from corner
69 min black stripe from corner
1-2
Noocastle are shite , we are worse.
There is so many teams playing Villa on a bad run lately but it makes no odds when you play the Villa.
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If Delph is out KEA can forget his jet-lag and bloody well play like a man for once.
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Think Bolton last season.
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I just hope the crowd stick with them through the game, we can boo vent spleens and give them a round of fucks as much as we like at the end, IMO support throughout the game is paramount tomorrow night.
Doubt it will happen though.
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If Delph is out KEA can forget his jet-lag and bloody well play like a man for once.
No Jet lag from South Africa. Same time zone plus or minus 2 hours.
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I just hope the crowd stick with them through the game, we can boo vent spleens and give them a round of fucks as much as we like at the end, IMO support throughout the game is paramount tomorrow night.
Doubt it will happen though.
I agree with this. There will be some who will be disappointed if we win.
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Dunne's been training for the last two weeks. I'd seriously consider starting with him... it's not as if we have the luxury of getting results and allowing him another week or two. That would allow us to move Clark into midfield to replace Delph. I'd start with:
Guzan
Lowton Vlaar Dunne Bennett
Holman Westwood Clark N'Zogbia
Benteke Weimann
Subs: Given, Baker, Lichaj, Bannan, Bent, Carruthers, Ireland
That midfield could be structured as a three, with N'Zogbia roaming around in front.
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I think Bent has to start
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I think Bent has to start
Too true he has to start!
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Todays press conference - Baker and delph very doubtful , dunne may be involved.
Does that mean ''wee'' Barry in midfield again? I love those overhit corners!
Those corners are only 'overhit' because there is never anybody past the far post coming in. They are all in the six yard box getting in each others way while a defender heads away. A quarter of the pitch wasted.
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Daily Heil (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2269552/Paul-Lambert-Aston-Villa-players-bleed-cause.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)
Lambert demands Villa strugglers bleed for the cause in crunch Newcastle clash
By Neil Moxley
PUBLISHED: 13:11, 28 January 2013 | UPDATED: 13:11, 28 January 2013
Paul Lambert says he needs players who are prepared to bleed for the cause as he urged Aston Villa's players to get tough ahead of Newcastle United's visit tomorrow.
Villa's boss fronted up in a lengthy pre-match press conference where he addressed all manner of questions as to Villa's desperate form over the past six weeks.
And one of the topics was again the fragility of Lambert's side at set-pieces, highlighted twice during cup defeats to Bradford City and Millwall last week.
The Scot will speak with Richard Dunne at training today to see whether the veteran Republic of Ireland centre-half is ready to be thrown back into the fold following a six-month absence with groin and hip problems.
That addition should help as Lambert explained what is missing.
'I need people who are prepared to be cut in the penalty area,' he said. 'People who don't mind having a clash of heads.
'I can believe the supporters are upset by what's happened. They are probably saying the same things as I'm saying.
'But when a ball comes into the box, you have to be prepared to be hurt. It's you against me in the box and you have to be wanted to do it.
'If players let you down, it's down to me to make sure it doesn't happen.
'It's an individual thing. And you have to be prepared to be hurt, to get cut. If you are not prepared to get your head and your eye cut open, maybe you shouldn't be there.'
Lambert failed to acknowledge one local press reporter after the defeat to Millwall in the Fourth Round of the FA Cup on Friday night.
He didn't apologise for that, but a comment that: 'I was annoyed by the defeat, I can't stand getting beaten and we are being beaten too much,' was as close as it came to an explanation.
But as to whether Villa will spend with the closure of the transfer window just three days away, Lambert was quick to dampen down any expectations.
'You can only play the hand you are dealt,' he said. 'That's it in a nutshell.
'I'm pretty sure the chairman knows what he is doing. It's his money. If you are asking me whether there's a massive amount of money, then there isn't any.
'You've got to go to war with the ones you've got. We have tried a few things and some people went to other clubs because the money was too much for us.
'That's football, you have to work within those parameters.'
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I just hope the crowd stick with them through the game, we can boo vent spleens and give them a round of fucks as much as we like at the end, IMO support throughout the game is paramount tomorrow night.
Doubt it will happen though.
I agree with this. There will be some who will be disappointed if we win.
For the life of me I cannot understand comments like this, it just beggars belief!
How can ANY Villa supporter be disappointed if Villa win, it just doesn't make any sense at all!
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I just hope the crowd stick with them through the game, we can boo vent spleens and give them a round of fucks as much as we like at the end, IMO support throughout the game is paramount tomorrow night.
Doubt it will happen though.
I agree with this. There will be some who will be disappointed if we win.
For the life of me I cannot understand comments like this, it just beggars belief!
How can ANY Villa supporter be disappointed if Villa win, it just doesn't make any sense at all!
I am telling you that they do exist.
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I think Newcastle will give us the old 5.2 diet.
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"If you are asking me whether there's a massive amount of money, then there isn't any."
Straneg choice of words. There isn't any massive amount, or there isn't any at all?
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"If you are asking me whether there's a massive amount of money, then there isn't any."
Straneg choice of words. There isn't any massive amount, or there isn't any at all?
They are strange choice, but it might be because he's a Scot and difficult to understand, with apologies to any Scottish Villa fans. ;)
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I just hope the crowd stick with them through the game, we can boo vent spleens and give them a round of fucks as much as we like at the end, IMO support throughout the game is paramount tomorrow night.
Doubt it will happen though.
The crowd are such an important factor here. Even if we go a goal down we have to stick with the lads all the way through and fight our way back. I wish the official site would get this message across to everyone that we need to stick together and battle our way through to the end of the season and a decent finish.
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It's asking alot for the fans to stay with the team at this stage.How many games have we won at home in the last 18 months.I know it has been said before some other games but I really think this is the tipping point.A lose here and fans will turn ..at all involved players ,Lambert and Lerner.
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Andi Weimann insists there is real belief in the dressing room that the team can make a move up the top-flight table.
Villa are 17th in the Barclays Premier League and face Newcastle on the back of cup defeats to Bradford and Millwall.
Despite this, Weimann is positive Villa can turn the tide and starting winning again.
Asked if they had the belief, he said: "Yes, of course.
"If we didn't have belief there would be no point playing.
"Obviously we picked up good results against Liverpool and Norwich so we are capable. Hopefully it can turn back in our favour now.
"We have to stick together as a team and start winning games again.
"I think we know we can play football because we have showed it in some games. The confidence is not the highest. When you don't win games, it's not going to be high.
"We have to just keep going, stick together through this and it will start to turn.
"Hopefully if we get one win it will show that we can do it and things will start to turn. We will keep going as a team.
"At the moment it is just not going for us. Hopefully it is going to turn soon and start on Tuesday.
"All we need is a win, because we haven't won for a while now. Hopefully if we can do that it will turn."
Weimann is eager for three points against Newcastle - for the team and for the fans.
He knows it will be a tough proposition against the Magpies.
He added: "It's a massive game for us.
"They have signed a few players but we are going to go for it on Tuesday. It's a massive game and hopefully we are going to get the win and it will turn for us.
"The fans have been outstanding. They were unbelievable in the game against Bradford and hopefully we can get a few wins for them."
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
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Warnock off to West Ham, Delph out.
Tell me what is the sense in playing a shot Bannan on Tuesday when Warnock could do a job there for us, albeit limited, like he did last season.
It could mean the difference in staying in the league or getting relegated
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Well Lambert is right, players need to be prepared to get hurt to defend our goal.
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
We all need a big hug! The manager, players, supporters, everyone connected with the club...We've got to stick together and fight our way out of this.
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Newcastle to win 0-2 (unfortunately)
Hope I'm wrong....
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
Well I can do that if you want but if you try to rub your stiffie into my crotch I'm off.
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
Well I can do that if you want but if you try to rub your stiffie into my crotch I'm off.
Oh come on Dave, 2.30am, a few blue WKDs inside you while the DJ puts on a Barry White number to finish the evening off, you know you want to!
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
Well I can do that if you want but if you try to rub your stiffie into my crotch I'm off.
Oh come on Dave, 2.30am, a few blue WKDs inside you while the DJ puts on a Barry White number to finish the evening off, you know you want to!
Well, maybe. But up top outside on first date only okay?
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
Well I can do that if you want but if you try to rub your stiffie into my crotch I'm off.
Oh come on Dave, 2.30am, a few blue WKDs inside you while the DJ puts on a Barry White number to finish the evening off, you know you want to!
Well, maybe. But up top outside on first date only okay?
Would'nt Minnie Rippington's 'Loving You' be a better bet?
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I think Newcastle will give us the old 5.2 diet.
Let's hope they are on one of their fasting days.
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I just want someone to give me a big hug and tell me everything's going to be ok.
Well I can do that if you want but if you try to rub your stiffie into my crotch I'm off.
Oh come on Dave, 2.30am, a few blue WKDs inside you while the DJ puts on a Barry White number to finish the evening off, you know you want to!
Well, maybe. But up top outside on first date only okay?
Would'nt Minnie Rippington's 'Loving You' be a better bet?
That would be" Ripperton", please Clampy, unless a northern lass from Oswaldtwistle did a cover version.
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Those corners are only 'overhit' because there is never anybody past the far post coming in. They are all in the six yard box getting in each others way while a defender heads away. A quarter of the pitch wasted.
But.....if there isn't anybody on the far post coming in, why is he putting the ball there??!!!??!!
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Fabian Delph has joined the injury list but Dunne and Baker are making good progress in recovery. Benteke will be back up front.
Ireland and Bannan will compete to start with Westwood
And 2 from Agbonlahor Weimann and Holman
Newcastle haven't won at Villa Park since 2006 when Charles N'Zogbia was on their scoresheet in a 2-1 victory, and we have have won 4 of the last 5 encounters @ home.
And we are actually undefeated against Newcastle in 5 home matches -Likes this :)
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Those corners are only 'overhit' because there is never anybody past the far post coming in. They are all in the six yard box getting in each others way while a defender heads away. A quarter of the pitch wasted.
But.....if there isn't anybody on the far post coming in, why is he putting the ball there??!!!??!!
But can't the players think for themselves? You would think one of them would see what's happening and take a punt on making a run round the back.
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Newcastle to win 10-0 with an own goal hattrick by Paul lambert who plays himself and hammers them past Guzan screaming "Who's in my army now? Whos in my army NOW???" Before he is dragged off screaming by the mascots, the lioness having to pummel him into silence as he shouts obscenities at the crowd.
or we could win/lose by the odd goal. I have no idea.
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Those corners are only 'overhit' because there is never anybody past the far post coming in. They are all in the six yard box getting in each others way while a defender heads away. A quarter of the pitch wasted.
But.....if there isn't anybody on the far post coming in, why is he putting the ball there??!!!??!!
But can't the players think for themselves? You would think one of them would see what's happening and take a punt on making a run round the back.
Well I wish I'd thought of that one when I was playing. Every time I mis-hit a pass (often tbh) I could have said "don't blame me, it's your own fault for standing in the wrong place"
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Newcastle boss Alan Pardew is set to unleash his contingent of new French signings at Aston Villa on Tuesday night, while Paul Lambert will be attempting to arrest his side's alarming slump in form.
Villa midfielder Fabian Delph has been ruled out of the match with an ankle injury, while Lambert has to decide whether to risk a recall for central defender Richard Dunne, who has started training after a lengthy lay-off with a groin problem.
The Scot will also check on the fitness of utility defender Nathan Baker who has returned to training after a hamstring injury.
Provisional squad: Guzan, Given, Marshall, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Lichaj, Stevens, Baker, Bennett, Ireland, Westwood, N'Zogbia, Bannan, Holman, Benteke, Agbonlahor, Bent, Bowery, Weimann, Burke, Johnson, Williams, Carruthers, Dunne.
Newcastle boss Alan Pardew will include four of his January signings in the squad for the game.
Midfielder Moussa Sissoko is likely to start at Villa Park along with full-back Mathieu Debuchy, while defender Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa and striker Yoan Gouffran could also be involved and 20-year-old full-back Massadio Haidara will travel, but will not feature.
Midfielder Yohan Cabaye (groin) is fit and striker Papiss Cisse is expected to shake off a training ground knock, but although full-back Danny Simpson (broken toe) and utility man Ryan Taylor (knee) are back in training, midfielder Hatem Ben Arfa (hamstring) is still several weeks away from a return.
Provisional squad: Krul, Elliot, Debuchy, Santon, Perch, Williamson, Coloccini, Yanga-Mbiwa, S. Taylor, Sissoko, Gutierrez, Anita, Cabaye, Bigirimana, Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Marveaux, Cisse, Shola Ameobi, Gouffran.
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Those corners are only 'overhit' because there is never anybody past the far post coming in. They are all in the six yard box getting in each others way while a defender heads away. A quarter of the pitch wasted.
But.....if there isn't anybody on the far post coming in, why is he putting the ball there??!!!??!!
But can't the players think for themselves? You would think one of them would see what's happening and take a punt on making a run round the back.
Well I wish I'd thought of that one when I was playing. Every time I mis-hit a pass (often tbh) I could have said "don't blame me, it's your own fault for standing in the wrong place"
But we are talking about Bannan's corners which seem to consistently land 8 yards from our nearest forward.
What you said reminded me of when I used to watch Peter Withe train. In his mind his knock ons, passes and flicks were always to the right place, he used to give everybody so much stick for not being there
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It's scary how much more talent that Newcastle squad has than ours.
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1-1 draw. The best I can go for...................... :-[
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It's scary how much more talent that Newcastle squad has than ours.
we have more potential and also they more mercenary. I prefer what we have.
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If Dunne was even 50% fit I would start him and put Clark in the middle with Delph and Westwood. Charlie in behind Bent and Benteke.
Totally agree with the thinking behind this. Watching Brentford, Leeds and Oldham yesterday what was most striking was how they tackled, blocked and harried all day long, didn't given their more vaunted opposition the time and space to play.
Bearing in mind the fight we're in, our midfield is the opposite of this. We let the opposition play, we rarely try to disrupt their rhythm with tackles, challenges, mistake inducing harrying.
If the midfield is something like Bannan, NZogbia, Ireland and Holman we have no chance. With Delph out I'd play a defender in centre midfield, Clark is probably the best bet, because if we let Cabaye, Sissoko and the rest run the show with a powder puff midfied, it's over.
Result; 1-3 if it's a midfield without tacklers and hounders, 1-1 if we stick a defender or two in there.
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What i see Lambert doing is having a middle 2 Ireland Westwood. then Nzogbia roaming with Gabby andi on wide with benteke up top.
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What i see Lambert doing is having a middle 2 Ireland Westwood. then Nzogbia roaming with Gabby andi on wide with benteke up top.
That would worry me , put clark and westie in midfield.
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Yeah either Baker or Dunne has to come in, Clark is a major liability now.
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All I can see him doing is stating that he needs to pick them all up and go again. Sorry, but I'm getting tired of this approach. Please prove me wrong, Paul.
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Guzan
Lowton. Dunne. Vlaar. Bennett
Westwood. Clark
. Weimann Nzogbia. Gabby
Benteke .
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Weimann on the left AND the right!?
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Weimann on the left AND the right!?
He's here, he's there is every f###### where
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Guzan
Lowton. Dunne. Vlaar. Bennett
Westwood. Clark
. Weimann Nzogbia. Gabby
Benteke .
Too many forwards in that team which would leave the midfield woefully exposed again.
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We had all five on the other day. Plus Bennett is a liability.
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Guzan
Lowton. Dunne. Vlaar. Bennett
Westwood. Clark
. Weimann Nzogbia. Gabby
Benteke .
Too many forwards in that team which would leave the midfield woefully exposed again.
What other options do you see , delph and herd injured, bannan, ireland , holman all crap.
Midfield is shockingly poor.
At least weimann and gabby would track back , ireland ponces about and i dont want bannan in the team at any cost.
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KEA.
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
That will be £4.5m then.
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We won't get any of those before tomorrow. Or the end of January. We are stuck with what we currently have.
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We won't get any of those before tomorrow. Or the end of January. We are stuck with what we currently have.
Our midfield is shockingly bad.
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Westwood is pretty decent. Shame about the rest.
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We won't get any of those before tomorrow. Or the end of January. We are stuck with what we currently have.
Our midfield is shockingly bad.
It isn't, really.
Well, what I mean is, there are individual players in there who are quite good. It is just that there are no apparent combinations of them at the same time that work.
Stick a decent defensive mid in the middle, and it'd be transformed.
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We won't get any of those before tomorrow. Or the end of January. We are stuck with what we currently have.
Our midfield is shockingly bad.
It isn't, really.
Well, what I mean is, there are individual players in there who are quite good. It is just that there are no apparent combinations of them at the same time that work.
Stick a decent defensive mid in the middle, and it'd be transformed.
Westwood is best by far,
Delph improved of late,
Clark better midfielder than defender,
Bannan - get rid
Holman - very average
Kea - poor so far
Ireland- waste of space
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Guzan
Baker
Vlaar
Clark
Stevens
Lowton
Westwood
Shit
Feck knows
Benteke
Weiman
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Guzan
Lowton. Dunne. Vlaar. Bennett
Bannan Holman Westwood
Benteke N'zogbia Agbonlahor
It's a hotch potch, but I figured that if Gabby is on the left that might afford Bennett some respite.
Benteke is out wide right to draw them out a little, Holman is pish but will work harder than Ireland.
I've included the dreaded Bannan on the right, because I think having Benteke just in front of him will
offer him some space. He'll naturally cut inside and try to play a long ball into the channel for Gabby.
and N'zogbia to me always seems to want to play up front, so why not let him?
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Guzan
Lowton. Dunne. Vlaar. Bennett
Bannan Holman Westwood
Benteke N'zogbia Agbonlahor
It's a hotch potch, but I figured that if Gabby is on the left that might afford Bennett some respite.
Benteke is out wide right to draw them out a little, Holman is pish but will work harder than Ireland.
I've included the dreaded Bannan on the right, because I think having Benteke just in front of him will
offer him some space. He'll naturally cut inside and try to play a long ball into the channel for Gabby.
and N'zogbia to me always seems to want to play up front, so why not let him?
That lineup reminds me how we organised the table plan at our wedding. Write all the names on postits, and then jiggle them around until you've spread the pissheads round the place.
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Guzan
Lowton. Dunne. Vlaar. Bennett
Bannan Holman Westwood
Benteke N'zogbia Agbonlahor
It's a hotch potch, but I figured that if Gabby is on the left that might afford Bennett some respite.
Benteke is out wide right to draw them out a little, Holman is pish but will work harder than Ireland.
I've included the dreaded Bannan on the right, because I think having Benteke just in front of him will
offer him some space. He'll naturally cut inside and try to play a long ball into the channel for Gabby.
and N'zogbia to me always seems to want to play up front, so why not let him?
That lineup reminds me how we organised the table plan at our wedding. Write all the names on postits, and then jiggle them around until you've spread the pissheads round the place.
You're not far wrong, I think every line up I've tried, has had a glaring weak area or been imbalanced.
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We won't get any of those before tomorrow. Or the end of January. We are stuck with what we currently have.
Our midfield is shockingly bad.
It isn't, really.
Well, what I mean is, there are individual players in there who are quite good. It is just that there are no apparent combinations of them at the same time that work.
Stick a decent defensive mid in the middle, and it'd be transformed.
It really is compared to our options there in 09/10 and even 10/11.
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We won't get any of those before tomorrow. Or the end of January. We are stuck with what we currently have.
Probably right. It would have happened by now.
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
Once again, You don't get jet lag from friggin South Africa!
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He may have to throw KEA straight in. There's not much else he can do really.
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He may have to throw KEA straight in. There's not much else he can do really.
About the only chance we'll have of seeing a successful tackle in midfield all night
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
Once again, You don't get jet lag from friggin South Africa!
He'll probably get DVT knowing our luck
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
Once again, You don't get jet lag from friggin South Africa!
You do get quite tired from 12 hours on a plane, though, innit
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No chance we'll see KEA tommorrow.
Will probably resurface at Everton if he hasn't gone for a jolly in Casablanca or got malaria.
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
Once again, You don't get jet lag from friggin South Africa!
You do get quite tired from 12 hours on a plane, though, innit
Has Karim been paired with Westwood yet? If Bannan sees playing time I think I'll go insane. I used to be so high on him but of late he just does not deserve to be on the pitch, and I don't mean to heap all of the misery on to him because I know many supporters have given up, but I just don't think this is the game for him, at all.
AW CB
GA SI CNZ
AW KEA
JB RD/CC RV ML
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AW CB
GA SI CNZ
AW KEA
JB RD/CC RV ML
Ah, yes, the old "play 12 men" tactic.
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AW CB
GA SI CNZ
AW KEA
JB RD/CC RV ML
Ah, yes, the old "play 12 men" tactic.
Is there a loophole in The Laws whereby we can play two 'keepers? Failing that, go 4-6-0 and get a 0-0. Gamechanger, risk Benteke if KEA plays
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One interesting statistic is that Newcastle have conceded as many late goals(a total of 9 in the last ten minutes) as we have this season. Now, this may not be a great thing in itself as fellow joint-leaders of this late-concessions league are Spuds and Smethwick, and we all know how well we did against them. However, they could be mentally fragile, and if we use the crowd, get in their faces a la Liverpool and how Norwich played last season we could cause them problems.
My team would be: Guzan; Lowton (needs a break, but hey ho); Vlaar, Dunne/Clark (fitness judgement call); Baker/Clark/Stevens (depends on fitness of various players - Bennett needs to be kept away); Westwood, KEA/Delph/Ireland, Bannan (midfield three, it could help overcome our midfielders' deficiencies by giving them a bit of safety in numbers); Zog, Weimann (license to roam); Benteke (still our biggest threat).
4-3-3, basically, because Par-Dieu has a weird addiction to 4-4-2, and I don't care if you have Cabaye and Sissoko, you can get outnumbered if your tactics are retrograde. Give Weimann and Zog a bit of creative license and keep Gabby and Bennett (and, if possible, Clark) out, they all look like they hate football.
I don't think Dunne and Vlaar (Vlunne) would concede the twelve goals of Christmas like their understudies have. No chance. Both have their faults, but together, along with Guzan's still-rock-solid hands, they could galvanise the whole team.
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AW CB
GA SI CNZ
AW KEA
JB RD/CC RV ML
Ah, yes, the old "play 12 men" tactic.
Dunne if available. Can't get any worse.
Thanks for calling me out, by the way.
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I've woken up a bit more positive about this one. If Dunne is back I fancy us to keep on or two more clean sheets and we do have a goal in us.
Win tonight and the gloom *might* lift enough for us to pull clear.
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I've woken up nervous.
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KEA.
He doesnt get back until tomorrow does he - jetlag, plus not very good.( being kind)
We need two new midfielders this week., and a defender.
Once again, You don't get jet lag from friggin South Africa!
You do get quite tired from 12 hours on a plane, though, innit
Especially when you set about the drinks trolley
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What do i do? twice i have recorded the game and we've gone two up, both time i havn't been able to watch the rest of the game without looking at the final result on H&V, both times i have been disappointed. Should i change my routine?
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I woke up reading that Sissoko will start for them, and as we apparently tried to sign him, he will score against us. So we need at least 2 goals our selves.
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We'll play well in stages before succumbing to the inevitable defeat by at least two goals.
Of course, football has the propensity to surprise so we may get a morale boosting three points. But I don't see it.
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First half ours 2-0 second half theirs FT 2-2 I can't see them beating us BUT it will be in the back of their minds that we sent them down a few seasons ago!!!
Pardew is as clueless as PL when it comes to the crunch no back up plan what so ever....
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I think there might be a couple of bedsheets out today. I've seen a couple of photos on Twitter questioning Lerners ambition
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Pardew is a b*llend. They are in it as much as we are and their confidence is weak too. Hopefully, the new signing will need time to bed in.
Please Villa just get us 3 points and give us hope!
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I think there might be a couple of bedsheets out today. I've seen a couple of photos on Twitter questioning Lerners ambition
Especially with all the bed-wetting that has supposedly been going on.
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He may be a bell end but at least he's recognised he needed to sign some players pronto,rather than waiting to see what's left in the bargain bins. Nursey reporting that we missed out on Sissoko mmmm I wonder why that is?
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He may be a bell end but at least he's recognised he needed to sign some players pronto,rather than waiting to see what's left in the bargain bins. Nursey reporting that we missed out on Sissoko mmmm I wonder why that is?
Wouldn't rely on Nursey's reporting, not the most reliable source of information based on previous articles he's published.
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He may be a bell end but at least he's recognised he needed to sign some players pronto,rather than waiting to see what's left in the bargain bins. Nursey reporting that we missed out on Sissoko mmmm I wonder why that is?
Wouldn't rely on Nursey's reporting, not the most reliable source of information based on previous articles he's published.
From the horses mouth I'm afraid at the press conference yesterday
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He may be a bell end but at least he's recognised he needed to sign some players pronto,rather than waiting to see what's left in the bargain bins. Nursey reporting that we missed out on Sissoko mmmm I wonder why that is?
Wouldn't rely on Nursey's reporting, not the most reliable source of information based on previous articles he's published.
From the horses mouth I'm afraid at the press conference yesterday
Since when did Sissoko become the saviour? All of a sudden it's like he would have been the answer to all our problems (Not directly at you but in general on here).
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Well he's exactly the sort of player we need. He wouldn't necessarily be the 'saviour' but he would have been a massive help, hopefully we have an alternative lined up.
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Just saw on SSN that it is seven years since Newcastle won at Villa Park. The scorer of the winning goal that day - a rather young and chubby looking Charles N'Zogbia!! He's well overdue a goal for us, so here's hoping he can get one tonight.
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I think there might be a couple of bedsheets out today. I've seen a couple of photos on Twitter questioning Lerners ambition
I've seen these too and my opinion would be don't bother, go down there and sing your hearts out for 90 minutes then do any spleen venting at the end.
These players are fragile and need vocal support, forget how much they earn or how many bad games they've had this season, let's just support them in what is undoubtedly the biggest game of our season!
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Just saw on SSN that it is seven years since Newcastle won at Villa Park.
Arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh !!!!
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Just saw on SSN that it is seven years since Newcastle won at Villa Park.
Arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh !!!!
Just my thought also - if a team needs to break a bad record - who are you going to call - Ghost... I mean - Aston Villa
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Just saw on SSN that it is seven years since Newcastle won at Villa Park.
Arrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhh !!!!
Just my thought also - if a team needs to break a bad record - who are you going to call - Ghost... I mean - Aston Villa
Coupled with not winning away all season a la Swansea last season
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Any bad run has to stop at some point - but why does it always has to be against Aston Villa? (it feels like it is always against us)
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I reckon we'll draw tonight. 1-0 up at half-time, having had the better of things, with to equalise at some point in the last 15 minutes. Sound familiar?
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I think we'll lose 1-3, I really hope I'm wrong. Can you imagine how much better we'd feel if we got a couple of players in and picked up an unexpected 6 points this week?
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Under the circumstances the fans have been fantastic home and away given the complete and utter shit we've had to put up with over the past three seasons.To say the fans are somehow to blame for poor performances is utterly unfair,it wasn't the fans that removed the whole midfield against Bradford was it?
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
I think its harsh to blame the fans for the ineptitude of players.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Maybe, but they're also highly paid professionals playing in one of the world's major leagues, so that sort of goes with the territory imo.
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A Villa win tonight.
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Paul Lambert reckons Richard Dunne has all the necessary qualities to lead Villa's survival battle.
Lambert is remaining cautious over Dunne's chances of featuring in the clash against Newcastle.
He is reluctant to rush the Republic of Ireland defender back and risk a reoccurrence of the groin injury which has kept him out of action since last summer's European Championships.
But the Villa boss is looking forward to having Dunne available again in the coming weeks.
Lambert believes the talismanic centre-back's presence will boost the team in terms of defensive steel and organisation.
"He knows the game inside out," said Lambert.
"Richard has had a great career but you can't rush somebody that's been out for that length of time.
"He will go and put his head in. He's been around the block and knows the game. He knows exactly what it entails.
"He's what we need, especially when the ball comes into the penalty area, going to compete and putting your head on the line.
"He's a good talker too, a really good talker."
Dunne was expected to step up his training ahead of the Magpies clash and Lambert will talk to him before making a decision on his availability.
It has been a frustrating season for the former Manchester City ace, who underwent surgery to correct the ongoing problem.
"It's been a nightmare for him," said Lambert.
"He's had operations, then another one and he's still not been getting to the bottom of it.
"But at this minute he's feeling not too bad.
"I'll go by Richard himself. We've had chats to see how he's feeling but he's been out for over half a year now and he's hardly trained.
"So it's difficult just to throw him back in. It's difficult for players who have been out for a few weeks, never mind half a year.
"You're taking a risk there. We'll see how he feels on the morning of the game."
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Bloody 'eck, it comes to something when all of our hopes are hanging on the fitness of Richard Dunne. Yes, with the state of our current squad, I agree that if fully fit he should play. However, the combination of relying on a semi-fit (at best) veteran and all of Lambert's 'we have to go to war' and 'put your head in where it hurts' rhetoric smacks of real desperation. Of course more commitment is required from the players, but so is a more thoughtful tactical approach from the manager. You know Paul, something that gets the best out of the players you have and makes Villa a more effective unit in attack and defence. Starting tonight, it's time to stop all this William Wallace nonsense and show us that you have the tactical nous to justify keeping your job. Right now, for me the jury's well and truly out.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Yep it's all the fans fault. The Villa fans have been incredibly supportive this season given some of the performances we've had to endure.
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If Dunne is fit I'd have him in side, we need experience and we need someone who's actually prepared to get hurt to block and stop the ball going in our net.
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I'd rather he played the william wallace monument than Dunne at the mo. wait till he's fit, THIS is still a winable game. Play an unfit, not match fit Dunne and it wont be winnable.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Under the circumstances the fans have been fantastic home and away given the complete and utter shit we've had to put up with over the past three seasons.To say the fans are somehow to blame for poor performances is utterly unfair,it wasn't the fans that removed the whole midfield against Bradford was it?
This manager has had more support from the fans than any, bar none, in my 50 years supporting the Villa.
There has been no call for his head, no booing, not a word of abuse or stick, but I think tonight will be the tipping point if we lose.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Under the circumstances the fans have been fantastic home and away given the complete and utter shit we've had to put up with over the past three seasons.To say the fans are somehow to blame for poor performances is utterly unfair,it wasn't the fans that removed the whole midfield against Bradford was it?
There has been no call for his head, no booing, not a word of abuse or stick, but I think tonight will be the tipping point if we lose.
I've just been chatting to someone and we said the same thing. It could be a Bolton type scenario which is not what we need.
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Bloody 'eck, it comes to something when all of our hopes are hanging on the fitness of Richard Dunne. Yes, with the state of our current squad, I agree that if fully fit he should play. However, the combination of relying on a semi-fit (at best) veteran and all of Lambert's 'we have to go to war' and 'put your head in where it hurts' rhetoric smacks of real desperation. Of course more commitment is required from the players, but so is a more thoughtful tactical approach from the manager. You know Paul, something that gets the best out of the players you have and makes Villa a more effective unit in attack and defence. Starting tonight, it's time to stop all this William Wallace nonsense and show us that you have the tactical nous to justify keeping your job. Right now, for me the jury's well and truly out.
Totally agree, good post!
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Under the circumstances the fans have been fantastic home and away given the complete and utter shit we've had to put up with over the past three seasons.To say the fans are somehow to blame for poor performances is utterly unfair,it wasn't the fans that removed the whole midfield against Bradford was it?
There has been no call for his head, no booing, not a word of abuse or stick, but I think tonight will be the tipping point if we lose.
I've just been chatting to someone and we said the same thing. It could be a Bolton type scenario which is not what we need.
I dont think randy will take any action if the fans do turn on lambert .
The tipping point for me was reached weeks ago.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
I don't agree with that. I think the fans have been very good on the whole. Not sure that's going to be the case tonight.
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The real worry for me is our home form, at least away from home we seem to perform a bit better but we struggle badly at villa park- 3 wins in 14 months in the league is shocking.
Maybe that's because away from home they haven't got 30K+ fans waiting with baited breath to moan and groan at every misplaced pass.
Don't make further excuses for this team - good players perform under intense pressure, if they're good enough - clearly these players aren't up to it. After all, they're paid obscene amounts of money for what they do.
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Lambert has said we should play every game as if it was a cup final
2-3 Newcastle then
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I'm tired of hearing words from Lambert, I want to see action. I want to see that our problems are actually being addressed.
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7 hours till kick off and i've already got the trots. Villa bring out the worst pebble dashery in me.
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Lambert has said we should play every game as if it was a cup final
2-3 Newcastle then
At least it wasn't John Gregory saying that.
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I've just been chatting to someone and we said the same thing. It could be a Bolton type scenario which is not what we need.
Why? If we lose to a very poor Newcastle side who have not yet won away from home due to PL's poor tactics and substitutions,the fans would be well within their rights to demand a change
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I'm tired of hearing words from Lambert, I want to see action. I want to see that our problems are actually being addressed.
But.......''we go again'' 1-3 defeat and we'll lose at Everton on Saturday.
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I hope to god the bedsheet banners that have popped up on social media don't come out tonight!
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I won't be at this one due to injury.
So we'll win. 4-3.
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Newcastle have not won away, and not scored from a corner.
1-4 to them. 2 from corners.
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Last Tuesday's result has thrown a spanner in the works for those of us pre-match superstitious routines that get dropped after a home defeat. As depressingly disappointing as it was, we did actually win the game and a late Andi Weimann winner tonight will do just fine.
I think I'll risk wearing the string vest and Beatles socks again.
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I'm not talking about the manager getting abuse I'm talking about the players, I'm talking about the groans of discontent at the first pass that goes astray or the first time a player gets tackled. At every game I've been to since this bad run started it's got progressively worse. I understand we all get frustrated but at the end of the day it doesn't help.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record now but any booing or spleen venting should be saved until the final whistle.
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I'm not talking about the manager getting abuse I'm talking about the players, I'm talking about the groans of discontent at the first pass that goes astray or the first time a player gets tackled. At every game I've been to since this bad run started it's got progressively worse. I understand we all get frustrated but at the end of the day it doesn't help.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record now but any booing or spleen venting should be saved until the final whistle.
It should be but more than likely won't though. Like lots of us have said, it all depends on the performance we put in. I am still going for a win tonight and another good result at Everton at the weekend, a draw there would be fantastic at the moment.
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I'm not talking about the manager getting abuse I'm talking about the players, I'm talking about the groans of discontent at the first pass that goes astray or the first time a player gets tackled. At every game I've been to since this bad run started it's got progressively worse. I understand we all get frustrated but at the end of the day it doesn't help.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record now but any booing or spleen venting should be saved until the final whistle.
Agreed. Unfortunately I think there will always be some who can't hold their frustrations in, which is I suppose is understandable given the current decline.
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I'm not talking about the manager getting abuse I'm talking about the players, I'm talking about the groans of discontent at the first pass that goes astray or the first time a player gets tackled. At every game I've been to since this bad run started it's got progressively worse. I understand we all get frustrated but at the end of the day it doesn't help.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record now but any booing or spleen venting should be saved until the final whistle.
I'm not going so I don't have any place to tell people who to behave but just try and back the team for 90mins and if your still unhappy go and shout stuff outside the reception of the Trinity till you feel better!
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I've just been chatting to someone and we said the same thing. It could be a Bolton type scenario which is not what we need.
Why? If we lose to a very poor Newcastle side who have not yet won away from home due to PL's poor tactics and substitutions,the fans would be well within their rights to demand a change
I meant not what we need in terms of morale.
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I'm not talking about the manager getting abuse I'm talking about the players, I'm talking about the groans of discontent at the first pass that goes astray or the first time a player gets tackled. At every game I've been to since this bad run started it's got progressively worse. I understand we all get frustrated but at the end of the day it doesn't help.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record now but any booing or spleen venting should be saved until the final whistle.
I'm not going so I don't have any place to tell people who to behave but just try and back the team for 90mins and if your still unhappy go and shout stuff outside the reception of the Trinity till you feel better!
People pay their money and are therefore entitled to behave however they see fit towards the players, it's just my opinion that it can be counter-productive sometimes to be so critical of every aspect of their play during a game.
As for tonight, I can't go either as I've just been informed I'm working late, it will be the first home game I'll have missed for a long time. You'll probably see me in the match thread, with my spleen well and truly vented, contradicting everything I've said in here thus far!
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Baker and Vlaar at the back with Clark playing in front of the defence?
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Baker and Vlaar at the back with Clark playing in front of the defence?
Baker's injured.
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Baker and Vlaar at the back with Clark playing in front of the defence?
Baker's injured.
Saw earlier he is available, possible from Kendrick.
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Baker and Vlaar at the back with Clark playing in front of the defence?
Baker's injured.
He's fit again Paul.
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Dunne and Vlaar is a solid looking partnership.
Clark in midfield and we instantly have a bit of height and beef (Clacker is a dirty bugger on the quiet; more cards the Moonpig)
If he had Westwood sitting by him then I think the spine is possibly the best we could put out there with the current squad (unless KEA suddenly picks up the pace of the league).
Then for me, Lambert has to make a choice, he either goes with Charlie wide (not his best position) and Gabby wide (same as previously mentioned) or he gives both Bennett and Lowton licence to get forward and really provide width. For me, one of our biggest failings is an inability to get the fullbacks really pushing on. Confidence has a lot to do with it and is 90% part of our recent awful form.
The team I would go with is;
Guzan, Bennett, Dunne, Vlaar, Lowton at the back; full backs to be pushing right onto Newcastle.
Clark sitting and screening the back four. Westwood to be the link between the defence and the rest of the midfield, with Delph, if fit, further forward in a pressing role. I have been impressed with Delph of late. Now he seems aware that he doesn't have to pass the ball backwards or sideways on every occasion, but that he can drop his shoulders and stretch his legs, he looks like a player. Charlie to provide creativity and Bent and Beneteke up top.
I think that Lambert may go with Dunne, Clark and Vlaar at the back, with Bannan and Westwood in midfield, with Cahrlie, Beneteke and Weiman up top.
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LAWWWWWWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Villa suffered another demoralising loss against Millwall in the FA Cup and I think Paul Lambert now needs to pick his best 11 players and decide on a system. And he needs to find a place in the team for Darren Bent because he is a goalscorer. Villa are playing games in the league without him, with Christian Benteke up front on his own in a 4-5-1 formation, but they are losing.
If I were the manager, I would think, let's try to get Bent in the team alongside the Belgian, play our best team and see where we go from there because they are desperate for a win.
I think Villa might just escape. They have had an awful run of luck with players being out but at least Richard Dunne should be back soon.
I don't think they will spend in the next few days. Randy Lerner is probably telling the manager, "here is what you have got, so get on with it". That is how it will be and Lambert knows that. He is a very good manager who is having a bad time.
As for the Magpies, we are all waiting to see how many of the new players feature and how well they play. The team Alan Pardew picks for this game will never have started together so they will take some time to gel.
1-1
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I just think our midfield will get destroyed by theirs, hopefully it won't though.
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If Baker and Dunne really are back, I know what I'd go with:
4-2-3-1
Guzan
Lowton Dunne Vlaar Baker
Westwood Clark
Zog Bannan Weimann
Benteke
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Baker and Vlaar at the back with Clark playing in front of the defence?
Baker's injured.
He's fit again Paul.
In which case I'd probably have him at left back and Dunne in the centre.
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Oh bollocks. Lawro you twat.
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Just spoke to a work coleague who is a Mags season ticket holder and he isn't at all confident either from their prsepctive.
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
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Surely if done is in anyway fit, he plays, just to stop us conceding from set pieces.
It is a worry that we are relying on him after over 6 months out.
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Surely if done is in anyway fit, he plays, just to stop us conceding from set pieces.
It is a worry that we are relying on him after over 6 months out.
Let's hope he has the Steve Hunt / Andy Blair effect 1986
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Baker is fit also, maybe him and Vlaar tonight and Dunne in when he's a bit sharper.
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
You are letting your heart take over your head, that's what football does
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I work for a company based in Washington [Not the USA one]
I made the mistake after the Liverpool game of walking around the factory in my Villa scarf.
I had to go back up there yesterday [minus the scarf] to be met with "Ya not wearing ya foooking scarf naw are ye, ya Cuuuuunt"
Come on Villa give me a win, just to shut them up or my phone will not stop ringing tommorow!
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
You can now experience the misery in 3D with the rest of us!
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I work for a company based in Washington [Not the USA one]
I made the mistake after the Liverpool game of walking around the factory in my Villa scarf.
I had to go back up there yesterday [minus the scarf] to be met with "Ya not wearing ya foooking scarf naw are ye, ya Cuuuuunt"
Come on Villa give me a win, just to shut them up or my phone will not stop ringing tommorow!
I work for a company based in Washington [Not the USA one]
I made the mistake after the Liverpool game of walking around the factory in my Villa scarf.
I had to go back up there yesterday [minus the scarf] to be met with "Ya not wearing ya foooking scarf naw are ye, ya Cuuuuunt"
Come on Villa give me a win, just to shut them up or my phone will not stop ringing tommorow!
Your other mistake is to work in the wrong Washington. But come on Villa, we all need you to shock us and win
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I'm not talking about the manager getting abuse I'm talking about the players, I'm talking about the groans of discontent at the first pass that goes astray or the first time a player gets tackled. At every game I've been to since this bad run started it's got progressively worse. I understand we all get frustrated but at the end of the day it doesn't help.
I'm starting to sound like a broken record now but any booing or spleen venting should be saved until the final whistle.
I don't disagree Mortimer but you have to take it in context. It may be a new game but it is also comes on the back of 3 years of mind-numbingly awful football and disastrous results. So inevitably fans will get on their backs quicker. They've only seen something like 3 wins in their last 25-odd home games. They've been smashed by Spurs, stuffed by Wigan, beaten by Southampton. You get the idea...
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
Welcome to the factory of sadness.
Don't forget to celebrate like we have scored a goal if we successfully defend s corner.
I shall be in P6 for tonight's festivities.
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L2 represent y'all.
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
Forced me to go to my local for beer to watch it. That will be 30 Euros i wont have come full time. Bloody lily- livers.
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L2 represent y'all.
Max respect to all y'all in L2
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Putting my negativity behind me, come on the Villa!
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L2 represent y'all.
You don't know what that means do you?
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L2 represent y'all.
You don't know what that means do you?
I heard some ruffians say it.
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L2 represent y'all.
You don't know what that means do you?
Hell, to represent you all ? Right who is going first ?
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L2 represent y'all.
You don't know what that means do you?
I heard some ruffians say it.
Well, you would in L2
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
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L2 represent y'all.
Respect to the C4 Dugout Massive.
Bringing you managerial abuse, sarcastic comments but absolutely no singing since 2001 !
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
You just know that will bite us right on the arse!
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
It's the lily-livered, big shit out attitude from the players when we have a corner that you should be more concerned with.
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The lily-livered, big shit out attitude shown by many posters on this thread has forced me to now buy a ticket for tonight.
That's £30 I haven't got, so thanks, you bastards.
It's the lily-livered, big shit out attitude from the players when we have a corner that you should be more concerned with.
Don't make it worse.
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I actually wish I was going tonight, think it'll be a decent atmosphere. Plus the Bartons pisses over any pub that we have over here from a great height.
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Strict radio silence tonight
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Great, just woke up after falling asleep for a few hours. Feel like death warmed up. So doubt i'll be going tonight. So there's 2 season tickets not getting used as spoke to my sister and she's feeling even worse than I am.
Now i'm off to heat up some soup and lie on the sofa feeling sorry for myself *sniff*
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Villa to go 2-0 up at half time. Newcastle get a flukey equaliser, we fall apart and they score 2 headed corners in second half injury time.
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Come on villa lets get some sort of result,loosing is not an option here 3-2 villa
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
It's not like we single handedly relegated them, they were shite all season long. Best banner on the Holte for donkeys years that day mind.
Who's Your Next Messiah, Ant Or Dec? Brilliant.
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Come on Villa , but as for the half wit who expects the crowd to not get iffy if we dont do it, get real pal, this has been going on for to long, time for men to be men and the crowd to react if they play like a load of pussys, the supporters dont get 30 k a week for being shit.
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What the Jawdees are too thick to realise is that whoever they were playing would have taken the piss and enjoyed it. Like Sunderland taking the piss out of Utd when City won the league. No one else would have come up with the "Messiah" banner though.
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What the Jawdees are too thick to realise is that whoever they were playing would have taken the piss and enjoyed it. Like Sunderland taking the piss out of Utd when City won the league. No one else would have come up with the "Messiah" banner though.
They still think it was just us. They haven't worked out that the entire world laughed when they went down, and why.
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Come on Villa , but as for the half wit who expects the crowd to not get iffy if we dont do it, get real pal, this has been going on for to long, time for men to be men and the crowd to react if they play like a load of pussys, the supporters dont get 30 k a week for being shit.
A poor performance tonight and the crowd will turn, sure of that.
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This is true, when they gubbed us under Kevin Mac, our sole Geordie at work took great pride in telling me 'that was for relegating us you c**t'
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This is true, when they gubbed us under Kevin Mac, our sole Geordie at work took great pride in telling me 'that was for relegating us you c**t'
I think their team had a bit more to do with it than we did.
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Great, just woke up after falling asleep for a few hours. Feel like death warmed up. So doubt i'll be going tonight. So there's 2 season tickets not getting used as spoke to my sister and she's feeling even worse than I am.
Now i'm off to heat up some soup and lie on the sofa feeling sorry for myself *sniff*
Get yourself to the game, think of the number of people you could infect!
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
Is it not about time they got over themselves about this. Jesus. Have they not heard of banter? Do they not ever take the piss out of opposing teams? Anyone would think it was the worst thing that had ever happened to them in their history or something.
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
It's not like we single handedly relegated them, they were shite all season long. Best banner on the Holte for donkeys years that day mind.
Who's Your Next Messiah, Ant Or Dec? Brilliant.
Indeed. What upset them so much was how we so superbly and royally took the piss. That youtube clip is still one of my favourite Villa videos.
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
Is it not about time they got over themselves about this. Jesus. Have they not heard of banter? Do they not ever take the piss out of opposing teams? Anyone would think it was the worst thing that had ever happened to them in their history or something.
Precious is the word that comes to mind.
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This is true, when they gubbed us under Kevin Mac, our sole Geordie at work took great pride in telling me 'that was for relegating us you c**t'
I think their team had a bit more to do with it than we did.
I am quite happy to go along with it though, that day was great.
Wasn't that the farewell to Martin Laursen also?
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Come on Villa , but as for the half wit who expects the crowd to not get iffy if we dont do it, get real pal, this has been going on for to long, time for men to be men and the crowd to react if they play like a load of pussys, the supporters dont get 30 k a week for being shit.
Which halfwit do you so eloquently refer to? If it's me I'm merely stating that its counter-productive during the game.
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Just about to set of from Wordsley.
Primed to support with 110% effort guarenteed.
Come on me babees!!!!
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It was a struggle to leave the house with pissing rain on the way in but I am on the train. Don't fuck it up Villa.
As for a previous post about Laursen, one of my most enjoyable piss up nights ever involved him.
I had enough on board to sink a battleship after the Blues 5-1 game and was a rather delicate flower at work the next day.
Come the end of that horrible Monday, there was nothing else for it but a quick couple so I didn't feel like death any more.
The first pint took an age to get through. I picked up slightly late on the second and at least felt human when heading for home.
I was in The Arcadian and nipped to the cashpoint in preparation for take out Chinese on the way back when I got off the train.
Unfortunately/Fortunately, I saw 3 chaps wander through the front gates of it and into Sobar whilst I was collecting my pennies.
Scandinavian to a man. One blonde, one with a Viking beard and one who Pauline (Villajk) tried to look at his tackle on the train once. I give you Laursen, Mellberg and Carew, out for a drink on their day off.
It felt wrong not to pop in and offer my congratulations. And drinks. On me. Whatever they wanted, frankly, after the result the day before.
I spent nigh on 2 hours with them, was allowed to only buy one round and had the most starstruck experience of my life when it comes to football.
I did come back quite pissed mind. Which upset the wife who hadn't recovered from my singing in my sleep the night before with the John Carew song.
I wouldn't give up that evening for any marital grief though.
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Wonderful story chelts!
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Just got out of bed to watch it live, not much sleep last night.
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About to set off for VP.
We have to win this. COME ON VILLA no messing around.
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Wonderful story chelts!
The stuff of dreams indeed. If we lose again tonight here's hoping he bumps into Bananaman, Clacker and Ireland tomorrow and chucks-up in their faces.
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I have sobered up since! Well, occasionally...
My only football engagement coming up is a beer with the brothers Gardner.
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I have sobered up since! Well, occasionally...
My only football engagement coming up is a beer with the brothers Gardner.
You namedropping scoundrel!
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Got a good feeling about tonight, god knows why. A nerve-jangling 1-0 win.
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Having your lawn re-laid then Chelts?
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Got a good feeling about tonight, god knows why. A nerve-jangling 1-0 win.
Same as 2-1win
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As i''m feeling too shite to go, i'm debating whether to try and ignore the match until the after it's finished. Maybe watch a film instead.
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As i''m feeling too shite to go, i'm debating whether to try and ignore the match until the after it's finished. Maybe watch a film instead.
You know it wont happen pws!
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As i''m feeling too shite to go, i'm debating whether to try and ignore the match until the after it's finished. Maybe watch a film instead.
You will never manage that. No way.
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Any radio links for iphone?
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1-1
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Any radio links for iphone?
I think it blocks them on kick off .
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For some reason the Toon Army really don't like us. It may have something to do with this:
Here's hoping we give them even more reason to hate us after tonight.
Is it not about time they got over themselves about this. Jesus. Have they not heard of banter? Do they not ever take the piss out of opposing teams? Anyone would think it was the worst thing that had ever happened to them in their history or something.
Precious is the word that comes to mind.
Back then we were the next big thing, the club to break into the top four and challenge consistently for honours. We were dynamic and confident.
Now we are in our third consecutive relegation struggle. One day our story will make a good book.
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Lmao, Talksport have just said that Newcastle havent won away or scored a goal from a corner this season. Welcome to Villa Park.
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Any radio links for iphone?
I think it blocks them on kick off .
Thanks, thought so!
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Can you get WM on the internet?
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Right, will be in just after kick off. Nice food, nice company.