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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on September 01, 2025, 12:43:37 PM
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Noise getting louder around Harvey Elliott now. Loan with an obligation to buy. Being reported by Townley, Ornstein. I’ll be very happy with this.
https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1962481050371641534?s=46
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1962479189233111279?s=46
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Noise getting louder around Harvey Elliott now. Loan with an obligation to buy. Being reported by Townley, Ornstein. I’ll be very happy with this.
https://x.com/johntownley11/status/1962481050371641534?s=46
https://x.com/david_ornstein/status/1962479189233111279?s=46
I agree - defo Emery type of player.
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Seems interesting and gives us attacking options in the team and, one way or another, on the bench, which we were crying out for yesterday.
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Seems interesting and gives us attacking options in the team and, one way or another, on the bench, which we were crying out for yesterday.
We need to insert some kind of haircut clause though.
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Seems interesting and gives us attacking options in the team and, one way or another, on the bench, which we were crying out for yesterday.
We need to insert some kind of haircut clause though.
Agreed.
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I'd have expected him to end up at somewhere like Fulham or Palace. Why are people excited (help me feel less underwhelmed!)?
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This is much more like it.
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Seems interesting and gives us attacking options in the team and, one way or another, on the bench, which we were crying out for yesterday.
We need to insert some kind of haircut clause though.
That is frigging regionalist - what other hairstyle do you expect a bonafide Scouser to have. Would you done the same to Rudi Voeller back in the day?
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I'd have expected him to end up at somewhere like Fulham or Palace. Why are people excited (help me feel less underwhelmed!)?
We have a great manager , this is our first proper bump he knows what he is doing
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Yes.
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I'd have expected him to end up at somewhere like Fulham or Palace. Why are people excited (help me feel less underwhelmed!)?
At the recent U21 Euros he was outstanding and deservedly player of the tournament.
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Yes given our predictament, I am happy with this.
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He's not a Scouser. Grew up in West London. So maybe he was just trying to fit in.
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I fucking weep we've effectively swapped JJ for him.
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I'd have expected him to end up at somewhere like Fulham or Palace. Why are people excited (help me feel less underwhelmed!)?
Maybe partly because of this from Wiki:
“On 28 June 2025, Elliott played in the 2025 UEFA European Under-21 Championship final, scoring England's opening goal against Germany in a 3–2 victory. Elliott was named Player of the Tournament, having scored five goals in the tournament.”
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I like him and would be happy with this if it's a sensible deal.
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Yea good signing if it comes off.
Maybe begs the question what happens to Malen over coming months.
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He's not a Scouser. Grew up in West London. So maybe he was just trying to fit in.
Blimey sounds quite posh.
Fair enough. I retract - the haircut has to go if he leaves Liverpool
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Hard working and with a bit of guile. Plus knows where the goal is. I like this signing a lot. Reminds me a bit of a younger McGinn.
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I'd have expected him to end up at somewhere like Fulham or Palace. Why are people excited (help me feel less underwhelmed!)?
Maybe partly because of this from Wiki:
“On 28 June 2025, Elliott played in the 2025 UEFA European Under-21 Championship final, scoring England's opening goal against Germany in a 3–2 victory. Elliott was named Player of the Tournament, having scored five goals in the tournament.”
Well that is a bit reassuring. He's looked average when I've seen him play for Liverpool, but is young so maybe I'm being too miserable.
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I'd have expected him to end up at somewhere like Fulham or Palace. Why are people excited (help me feel less underwhelmed!)?
Bad examples. Fulham and Palace generally buy very decent players.
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Better than Sancho at least.
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Decent move.
However, once more, TV has effectively called it off by going too soon.
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Not a terrible signing. Fairly happy with this one, in fact.
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He's not a Scouser. Grew up in West London. So maybe he was just trying to fit in.
Blimey sounds quite posh.
Anyone that has lived in West London is definitely middle class. Probably votes Tory as well.
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Stop it.
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Need this with Asensio going to Fenerbache.
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Much more positive about this than Sancho.
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World Cup year, might help with the the motivation factor for Elliott and Sancho
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Another cast off
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Another cast off
Do you think we should be buying Liverpool’s best players?
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This would be a good signing. Can play a few positions. Holds a resale value if he does well for 2 or 3 years. No brainer.
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Another cast off
Do you think we should be buying Liverpool’s best players?
We should bid for Isak
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Another cast off
Do you think we should be buying Liverpool’s best players?
Yes.
Ask me another.
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Another cast off
He isn’t though is he. He just can’t get into a Liverpool side that has better options.
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If this comes off then it’s certainly a move in the right direction.
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Palmer and Rogers were cast-offs. And Elliot can be more their level but it depends on where we play him.
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Romano saying it's basically a done deal. Happy enough with this, expected Sancho to be the only outfield arrival today.
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Romano saying it's basically a done deal. Happy enough with this, expected Sancho to be the only outfield arrival today.
Surprised as Toronto started the topic before he signed and we know his track record. Shame you beat him to it with the Sancho thread.
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I started the Sancho one in the hope of jinxing it but you're right, should have left it to the expert. Sorry, everyone.
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Romano saying it's basically a done deal. Happy enough with this, expected Sancho to be the only outfield arrival today.
Surprised as Toronto started the topic before he signed and we know his track record. Shame you beat him to it with the Sancho thread.
Superb track record.
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I started the Sancho one in the hope of jinxing it but you're right, should have left it to the expert. Sorry, everyone.
I got the Joe Bryant deal scuppered. You're welcome
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On the Beeb as well now that he is with us for a medical
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Another cast off
Do you think we should be buying Liverpool’s best players?
Yes.
Ask me another.
Marco Bizot
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I like this lad, shit hair cut aside. He is a gobby little twat bag as well, which I am a big fan of.
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I like this lad, shit hair cut aside. He is a gobby little twat bag as well, which I am a big fan of.
I do get him mixed up with the gravelly voiced Gillette advert singer.
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I like this lad, shit hair cut aside. He is a gobby little twat bag as well, which I am a big fan of.
we're missing a twat-bag in the middle - evident from Will Hughes having it easy last night
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Another cast off
Seriously? This is the one bright spark in an otherwise underwhelming transfer window and you want to piss on our parade? Your comment could be tongue in cheek of course in which case I apologise in advance.
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Another cast off
Yep, should have gone for Salah. Disgraceful from so-called Monchi.
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He’s going going to be another little Lee Hendrie
Which is fine by me
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There’s three Liverpool fans in my footie chat WhatsApp group. They all really rate him. He just needs to move on to get game time. This is a nice bit of business. If he was Spanish he’d be £50m
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
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I think this is a good signing. Happy about this
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
we need some nastyness
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
Proper old school Vickies too. None of this middle finger bollocks.
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
Ha ha, my new favourite player.
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Elliot will be a good signing. He was very much an impact sub at Liverpool, and often changed games in their favour. I rate him higher than both Ramsey and Asensio.
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Yes, a good signing.
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I like Elliott, reckon he'll score plenty in an Emery team.
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I like Elliott, reckon he'll score plenty in an Emery team.
Right now, I’d be happy with just one.
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
That's the new Newcastle striker as well isn't it?
He couldn't look more German if he was wearing Lederhosen.
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
Ok, I’m convinced. Welcome to our new overlord of housery.
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even got a pikey haircut - I'm on board.
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Slow.
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He looks like he should be overcharging for shoddy roofing works.
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Better tactical fit anyway. Take last night, he could easily play where Malen was or where Buendia came on. He's lively and not afraid to take a shot. A better bet than Asensio I think. Not the most athletic of players but he/we can work on that.
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
bit of the Ray Houghtons about him
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I mean just look at the horrible little bugger. Absolutely tremendous work! (https://x.com/natsiobhan_/status/1962483566752809106?t=j6nvcwzjvTLiXtmGHWGxWw&s=19)
That's the new Newcastle striker as well isn't it?
He couldn't look more German if he was wearing Lederhosen.
His legs are to thin
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
bit of the Ray Houghtons about him
Bit of Birchy judging by his haircut.
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My cousins a liverpool fan i asked his analysis. Said he is a gifted footballer with excellent technical play. But no pace at all (will fit in well here then)
Said sad to let him go and thinks emery will get best out of him
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
He’s only on loan though
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
He’s only on loan though
I think its obligation to buy so he is ours
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Obligation to buy.
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
He’s only on loan though
isnt there an obligation to buy ?
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No pace? Great...how is his weaker foot?
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Obligation to buy.
35M is an absolute steal. 22 years old, excellent already with bags of potential.
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Not a terrible signing. Fairly happy with this one, in fact.
Not a terrible signing.
Is that where we are now ?
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buy uy uy uy
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My cousins a liverpool fan i asked his analysis. Said he is a gifted footballer with excellent technical play. But no pace at all (will fit in well here then)
Said sad to let him go and thinks emery will get best out of him
Emery isn't even getting the best out of Morgan Rogers right now, so the stock assumption he gets the best out of everyone isn't correct. Onana, Maatsen, Guessand, Malen. We need to start getting some value out of them now, not in 6 or 12 months, time for Emery to prove his reputation for getting the best out of players is still deserved.
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Yeah this is a very good signing only 22 he's only gonna get better.
He’s only on loan though
I think its obligation to buy so he is ours
Ok fair enough
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Elliot is apparently on £40k a week at Liverpool. Any idea how much we will be silly enough to pay him? Surely no more than £60k.
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He'll be on way over £100k a week.
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Kopite at work says he's a really talented player, but his dad is a bit of a gobby one. No real knowledge of this, but I think this is a really good signing.
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Elliot is apparently on £40k a week at Liverpool. Any idea how much we will be silly enough to pay him? Surely no more than £60k.
He's on a £4m a year contract, a little more than £40,000 a week.
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Elliott
Elliott
Harvey Elliott
He’s got shit hair but we don’t care
Harvey Elliott
Sorted.
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I think he is on a fairly low wage (relative to PL football) at Liverpool. Structure of the deal probably allows us to take on a relatively low wage this season to help with the salary-cost-ratio in Europe and then he gets a big sign on fee and wage hike next season when we're obliged to buy him permanently
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Elliot is apparently on £40k a week at Liverpool. Any idea how much we will be silly enough to pay him? Surely no more than £60k.
He's on a £4m a year contract, a little more than £40,000 a week.
£4m is £80 grand a week.
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He's gonna be really, really good. Cracking signing, not a huge wage, and at 22 could be our long term no. 10. Will work great alongside Rogers.
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Elliot is apparently on £40k a week at Liverpool. Any idea how much we will be silly enough to pay him? Surely no more than £60k.
He's on a £4m a year contract, a little more than £40,000 a week.
£4m is £80 grand a week.
Double what I said then, so more.
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He's gonna be really, really good. Cracking signing, not a huge wage, and at 22 could be our long term no. 10. Will work great alongside Rogers.
i think mor McGinn long term signing
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Elliot is apparently on £40k a week at Liverpool. Any idea how much we will be silly enough to pay him? Surely no more than £60k.
He's on a £4m a year contract, a little more than £40,000 a week.
£4m is £80 grand a week.
Double what I said then, so more.
Still good though compared to Malen
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Looks a done deal to me. Liverpool have just spent the Elliot fee on Guehi
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Hard working and with a bit of guile. Plus knows where the goal is. I like this signing a lot. Reminds me a bit of a younger McGinn.
Same here. I've been thinking all summer Elliott could be the long term replacement of McGinn, a player whose characteristics are near impossible to reproduce. Absolutely no problem us taking him on loan to test drive him before parting with big money.
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Fucking Liverpool....Marc Guehi is a steal at £35M. We will pay for that as well if Elliot is any good.
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Guehi only has a year left on his contract.
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Fucking Liverpool....Marc Guehi is a steal at £35M. We will pay for that as well if Elliot is any good.
He'd normally cost more to be fair but only has a year left on his contract.
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Guehi only has a year left on his contract.
They turned down 60m for him from Newcastle not that long ago.
I didn’t even know Monchi worked for Palace as well.
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How many years did Guehi have on his contract?
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How many years did Guehi have on his contract?
Out of contract next summer
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Guehi only has a year left on his contract.
They turned down 60m for him from Newcastle not that long ago.
I didn’t even know Monchi worked for Palace as well.
That decision won them the FA Cup
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Honestly this is type of profile player we should be looking at. The more im thinking about it the more i like this signing. U21 young and a lot to prove. Hopefully in the mould of palmer. This far more sensible than a expensive aging player like asensio
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This hasn’t gone down well with Glasner. Reckons he had an agreement with parish he wouldn’t be sold without a replacement.
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This hasn’t gone down well with Glasner. Reckons he had an agreement with parish he wouldn’t be sold without a replacement.
But they do. Jaydee canvot
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Honestly this is type of profile player we should be looking at. The more im thinking about it the more i like this signing. U21 young and a lot to prove. Hopefully in the mould of palmer. This far more sensible than a expensive aging player like asensio
Agreed - good players on the fringe of the very biggest clubs. We can offer them much more football and the chance to make the most of their talents.
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This hasn’t gone down well with Glasner. Reckons he had an agreement with parish he wouldn’t be sold without a replacement.
Hopefully manager gets poached soon and they can fuck off back to the abyss of South London
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This hasn’t gone down well with Glasner. Reckons he had an agreement with parish he wouldn’t be sold without a replacement.
Hopefully manager gets poached soon and they can fuck off back to the abyss of South London
I’d love Glasner to go to United. Then we combine two curses into one.
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There's a vacancy at Leverkusen...
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Arsenal when legohead gets the boot.
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Arsenal when legohead gets the boot.
I can't wait for this to happen - he's the aids of football managers
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Happier with this than I think I usually would be, due to the absolute shit show the rest of the window has been.
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Elliot is apparently on £40k a week at Liverpool. Any idea how much we will be silly enough to pay him? Surely no more than £60k.
He's on a £4m a year contract, a little more than £40,000 a week.
I haven't seen aynthing that suggests he's on £80k a week. Do you have a link?
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he's on £40k p/w according to a few sites I checked.
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If this one does go through I think it’s pretty exciting.
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Would you take Ollie over Unai? He beats him every time.
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Do we think elliots a upgrade on ramsey?
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Another cast off
Liverpool didn’t want him to go, but he wanted more opportunities to play instead of being a bit part player
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Another cast off
Liverpool didn’t want him to go, but he wanted more opportunities to play instead of being a bit part player
Which in itself is a sign of good character.
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Do we think elliots a upgrade on ramsey?
On a par I would say.
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Do we think elliots a upgrade on ramsey?
On a par I would say.
Yes I'd agree, which seems rather pointless, other than to satisfy the beancounters at UEFA
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If he's as good as Ramsey, can, fingers-crossed, stay fit more regularly and has cost £5 million less, then that would have to be considered a good deal. Also, having an ex-Liverpool player in against Everton does at least partially counter the Grealish "bound to score" factor.
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Do we think elliots a upgrade on ramsey?
He's done more in the last two years anyway.
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Do we think elliots a upgrade on ramsey?
On a par I would say.
If his fitness record is better than ramseys then i am happy with that chris!
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Just needs to get rid of that shite, chavvy haircut and it's a yes from me.
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Yes, do we have any hairstylists on H&V that could advise him on the spaghetti junction residing on his bonce?
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Can someone remind me what is his preferred position?
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Can someone remind me what is his preferred position?
I don't know him that well.
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Can someone remind me what is his preferred position?
I don't know him that well.
Lolz
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Good potential and for his age he’s got some real experience. Happy with this one.