collapse collapse

Please donate to help towards the costs of keeping this site going. Thank You.

Recent Topics

John McGinn by Clampy
[Today at 01:23:01 PM]


Fletcher Boyd by cdbearsfan
[Today at 01:17:45 PM]


Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by cdbearsfan
[Today at 01:16:22 PM]


Villa Park Redevelopment by eamonn
[Today at 01:12:55 PM]


Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by Gareth
[Today at 01:09:16 PM]


Other Games 2025-26 by Tayls_7
[Today at 12:54:18 PM]


Harvey Elliott (signed on loan) by Smithy
[Today at 12:42:35 PM]


FFP by Dave
[Today at 12:21:30 PM]

Recent Posts

Re: John McGinn by Clampy
[Today at 01:23:01 PM]


Re: Fletcher Boyd by cdbearsfan
[Today at 01:17:45 PM]


Re: Fletcher Boyd by Percy McCarthy
[Today at 01:16:45 PM]


Re: Aston Villa Women 2025-26 by cdbearsfan
[Today at 01:16:22 PM]


Re: Villa Park Redevelopment by eamonn
[Today at 01:12:55 PM]


Re: Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc. by Gareth
[Today at 01:09:16 PM]


Re: Fletcher Boyd by eamonn
[Today at 01:09:00 PM]


Re: John McGinn by algy
[Today at 01:07:50 PM]

Follow us on...

Author Topic: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)  (Read 16951 times)

Online eamonn

  • Member
  • Posts: 34045
  • Location: Stay in sight of the mainland
  • GM : 26.07.2020
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #270 on: September 05, 2025, 01:09:30 AM »
We've bought a bevvy of right siders. Last season we had Ramsey, Rashford and someone else for the left. Why we can't be balanced is beyond me.

Offline Ads

  • Member
  • Posts: 43167
  • Location: The Breeze
  • GM : 17.04.2024
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #271 on: September 05, 2025, 05:20:03 AM »
Can't say I've seen too much of him as I can't really.bring myself to watch Liverpool play, so where is his best position?  In the glimpses I have seen of him, he has been playing on the right, which is obviously a position of need for us.

He plays where Salah plays, only he's not as quick/direct, more of a passing/combination style. Nice left foot on him. Slot used him more as a 10

Offline Mister E

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 18280
  • Location: Mostly the Republic of Yorkshire (N)
  • GM : 16.02.2026
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #272 on: September 05, 2025, 07:49:42 AM »
We've bought a bevvy of right siders. Last season we had Ramsey, Rashford and someone else for the left. Why we can't be balanced is beyond me.
Maatsen, Rogers and Guessand ...

Offline Drummond

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 33153
  • Location: Everywhere, and nowhere.
  • GM : 11.10.2025
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #273 on: September 05, 2025, 08:08:17 AM »
Watkins will usually drift left rather than right too.

Offline paul_e

  • Member
  • Posts: 37408
  • Age: 45
  • GM : July, 2013
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #274 on: September 05, 2025, 10:28:12 AM »
and Sancho has played on the left as much as on the right, and has a similar goals and assists record regardless of which side he's playing.

Offline DrGonzo

  • Member
  • Posts: 6177
  • Age: 46
  • Location: Over the border, under the hill, on the farm.
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #275 on: September 05, 2025, 03:28:02 PM »
Elliot can play on the right or through the middle, also had a spell playing right side of midfield.  A typical Emery versatile player.  I think he'll make that right side his own. McG, Rogers and Malen look as though they are happier centrally. 

Online tomd2103

  • Member
  • Posts: 15475
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #276 on: September 06, 2025, 01:17:37 AM »
Can't say I've seen too much of him as I can't really.bring myself to watch Liverpool play, so where is his best position?  In the glimpses I have seen of him, he has been playing on the right, which is obviously a position of need for us.

He plays where Salah plays, only he's not as quick/direct, more of a passing/combination style. Nice left foot on him. Slot used him more as a 10

Cheers Ads.  Will be interesting to see where he used then as I think wide right and 'number 10' are both positions that need filling, presuming Rogers will play predominantly on the left. 

At least we have some options for those positions now though and it will be interesting to see how it all develops.

Online Meanwood Villa

  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 8710
  • GM : PCM
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #277 on: September 06, 2025, 07:54:25 AM »
Was talking to a Liverpool mate last night. Sorry to see him leave, pleased they had a buyback clause. He reckoned he hasn't got the pace to play as a wide forward and is more suited to an attacking midfield role.

Online Monty

  • Member
  • Posts: 29397
  • Location: pastaland
  • GM : 25.05.2024
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #278 on: September 06, 2025, 08:11:09 AM »
I don't want to put too much expectation on this, no doubt he'll take time to bed in and get up to his best, but this signing turned the window around for me. To some extent.

Offline Baldy

  • Member
  • Posts: 1371
  • Location: Little Island somewhere
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #279 on: September 06, 2025, 08:31:09 AM »
I don't want to put too much expectation on this, no doubt he'll take time to bed in and get up to his best, but this signing turned the window around for me. To some extent.

And me, the spark that might ignite the team.

Offline Skipper_The_Eyechild

  • Member
  • Posts: 125
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #280 on: September 06, 2025, 12:38:42 PM »
Can't say I've seen too much of him as I can't really.bring myself to watch Liverpool play, so where is his best position?  In the glimpses I have seen of him, he has been playing on the right, which is obviously a position of need for us.

He plays where Salah plays, only he's not as quick/direct, more of a passing/combination style. Nice left foot on him. Slot used him more as a 10

Cheers Ads.  Will be interesting to see where he used then as I think wide right and 'number 10' are both positions that need filling, presuming Rogers will play predominantly on the left. 

At least we have some options for those positions now though and it will be interesting to see how it all develops.

I reckon him and Rogers may be given free reign to switch about from the middle to right.

Offline SaddVillan

  • Member
  • Posts: 2419
  • Location: Saddleworth
  • 1000 ft up in the hills gazing down on Manchester
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #281 on: Today at 10:33:41 AM »
Harvey Elliott is only likely to play in 9 games between now and the 31st of December.

Here's why:

When a player is signed with a buy obligation and the obligation is triggered by say making a number of appearances, at that point the player’s signing costs (loan fee plus transfer fee) must be included in a club’s accounts going forward.

The amortisation costs of that player signing would be included, pro rata, from that point onwards. It is not something that can be pushed forward until next summer because the deal is considered done from the moment a clause is triggered. Once a deal is certain to be made permanent, clubs must recognise it as such.

Villa will have to include the sums of signing Elliott from the point he plays his 10th game, but given their greatest headache is with UEFA, the European governing body whose assessment period for its ‘squad cost rule’ runs from January to December, it's most likely that his 10th (and triggering) appearance will be after 31st Dec.

Offline Dante Lavelli

  • Member
  • Posts: 10837
  • GM : 25.05.2023
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #282 on: Today at 10:34:44 AM »
Sancho left, rogers centre, Elliot right.

They can all pretty much swap between themselves. Lacks pace but all have different qualities.

My hunch is SJM will be crowbarred into the three, which is no bad thing and will allow them all to be rotated and kept fresh.

Offline jwarry

  • Member
  • Posts: 6784
  • Location: Kyrenia, Northern Cyprus
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #283 on: Today at 10:35:34 AM »
Harvey Elliott is only likely to play in 9 games between now and the 31st of December.

Here's why:

When a player is signed with a buy obligation and the obligation is triggered by say making a number of appearances, at that point the player’s signing costs (loan fee plus transfer fee) must be included in a club’s accounts going forward.

The amortisation costs of that player signing would be included, pro rata, from that point onwards. It is not something that can be pushed forward until next summer because the deal is considered done from the moment a clause is triggered. Once a deal is certain to be made permanent, clubs must recognise it as such.

Villa will have to include the sums of signing Elliott from the point he plays his 10th game, but given their greatest headache is with UEFA, the European governing body whose assessment period for its ‘squad cost rule’ runs from January to December, it's most likely that his 10th (and triggering) apeaeancd will be after 31st Dec.

Bloody hell, how many more rules can PL and UEFA have to stitch us up?

Online Monty

  • Member
  • Posts: 29397
  • Location: pastaland
  • GM : 25.05.2024
Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #284 on: Today at 10:38:09 AM »
Harvey Elliott is only likely to play in 9 games between now and the 31st of December.

Here's why:

When a player is signed with a buy obligation and the obligation is triggered by say making a number of appearances, at that point the player’s signing costs (loan fee plus transfer fee) must be included in a club’s accounts going forward.

The amortisation costs of that player signing would be included, pro rata, from that point onwards. It is not something that can be pushed forward until next summer because the deal is considered done from the moment a clause is triggered. Once a deal is certain to be made permanent, clubs must recognise it as such.

Villa will have to include the sums of signing Elliott from the point he plays his 10th game, but given their greatest headache is with UEFA, the European governing body whose assessment period for its ‘squad cost rule’ runs from January to December, it's most likely that his 10th (and triggering) apeaeancd will be after 31st Dec.

Bloody hell, how many more rules can PL and UEFA have to stitch us up?

Couldn't...couldn't we have just upped the number of games?????

 


SimplePortal 2.3.6 © 2008-2014, SimplePortal