Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[PeterWithe]

We're in a different world now, 25+ doesn't necessarily give you guaranteed starters anymore, that's not to say that wasn't the plan with him. I still have no issue with the value.

No nor me. I see him as no better or worse than Buendia, so he isn’t needed, but I don’t see why he’s worth less.

[brontebilly]

We're in a different world now, 25+ doesn't necessarily give you guaranteed starters anymore, that's not to say that wasn't the plan with him. I still have no issue with the value.

No not me. I see him as no better or worse than Buendia, so he isn’t needed, but I don’t see why he’s worth less.

He's seven years younger than Buendia so there is that. Plenty of scope to improve. Emery seems to have dug himself into a hole of his own making here. But still turned to him to save the game v Brentford. Like any transfer if it doesn't work we could move him on after giving him a fair go, see Guessand, and I don't think we lose out too much on the deal.

[Mister E]

If Unai doesn’t rate him and doesn’t want him he will be off at the end of the loan period.

He didn't seem to rate Buendia ... life loves a redemption song.

Get the fee right and Elliott could become a very useful player for us (and England).

[Sexual Ealing]

(It's nobody at Aston Villa's job to give a single fuck about the England team.)

[PeterWithe]

Maybe, but over the years, plenty of players have left and amongst the reasons they have given is that there is more chance of international recognition at other clubs. Although it was always more likely they left for more money.

[Mister E]

(It's nobody at Aston Villa's job to give a single fuck about the England team.)

Hence the use of parentheses.

[TheToffnar]

Even when we signed him I thought 35m was pretty extortionate. I'm not going to say either way whether that valuation was fair based on his time here because he's barely had a run in the team. If not for the clause, he'd have at least been given a similar amount of leeway to prove himself as Guessand had.

Whole things a mess. Either way, we may well have our hand forced if Buendia get's injured.