Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[Dante Lavelli]

Yes and no, it’s not like he has been injured so his underlying fitness should be okay.  Nerves and confidence could be less then optimum levels.

[ChicagoLion]

I did not see anything impressive when he played for Liverpool, he has no real pace, does not beat a player and does not get into dangerous positions.
The price was ridiculous.

[PaulWinch again]

He did get into dangerous positions for Liverpool, just look at his goals there.

[brontebilly]

Would always be suspicious of u21 football, it's a bit of a nothing grade in truth. Elliot definitely needs to step up his strength and conditioning work to compete at the highest level but he plays with his head up. Has a decent shot on him too.

[thick_mike]

He reminds me of Barry Bannan a bit. Tons of skill, but little in the way of physicality or pace.

[Sexual Ealing]

He did get into dangerous positions for Liverpool, just look at his goals there.

He was never more dangerous than when he picked up a pen to sign for us.

[alan_clarke]

He reminds me of Barry Bannan a bit. Tons of skill, but little in the way of physicality or pace.

Nail on head.

It's always confused me when they say the Championship is a physcial league, when players like Bannan can do very well there and I'm sure Elliot would too.

[LeeB]

He reminds me of Barry Bannan a bit. Tons of skill, but little in the way of physicality or pace.

Nail on head.

It's always confused me when they say the Championship is a physcial league, when players like Bannan can do very well there and I'm sure Elliot would too.

It maybe used to be the case but nowdays the Premier League players are like decathletes with a decent touch.

[Mister E]

So, is there going to be a last-minute change to the circumstances surrounding Elliott or is the current stand-off going to continue till June?

[JJ-AV]

Tom Collomose in the Mail reporting that we and Liverpool are now discussing the terms of the loan with a view to amending them as at present, it suits no party.

Which kind of begs the question of why has it taken so long as presumably, these discussions have nothing to do with the transfer window.

Probably because we were hoping they’d call him back so we could het another loan

They didn’t want to do that as it’d help us and they’re trying to catch us

But they might be more willing to talk over removing the clause as if he doesn’t play he loses value

Really sad all round

[Smithy]

Tom Collomose in the Mail reporting that we and Liverpool are now discussing the terms of the loan with a view to amending them as at present, it suits no party.

Which kind of begs the question of why has it taken so long as presumably, these discussions have nothing to do with the transfer window.

Probably because we were hoping they’d call him back so we could het another loan

They didn’t want to do that as it’d help us and they’re trying to catch us

But they might be more willing to talk over removing the clause as if he doesn’t play he loses value

Really sad all round

Can we change the terms of the loan outside the transfer window? It FEELS like that wouldn't be allowed, but this entire loan situation has been so strange I really wouldn't know.

If we can, then there's no rush until he's made 9 appearances - so I suspect we have until midnight to get a deal altered.

My guess? We lose the obligation to buy, and pay a 'loan fee' for the season instead, probably in the Zaniolo loan-fee ballpark.  Liverpool get a few million instead of nothing, and we get to play for him potentially 20-ish games instead of 9.

If the window closes and no resolution has been found, then I think it would reflect incredibly poorly on both Liverpool and us, and I would feel incredibly sorry for Harvey.

[Smithy]

He reminds me of Barry Bannan a bit. Tons of skill, but little in the way of physicality or pace.

Nail on head.

It's always confused me when they say the Championship is a physcial league, when players like Bannan can do very well there and I'm sure Elliot would too.

I think what they mean by physical, is that if you're an athlete - a physical specimen - you can make a decent living at that level, purely on physicality - if you're fast, strong and fit, and can play a bit - you can do perfectly well in the Championship. 

But to play in the Premier League you need serious ability, AND to be at least competitive physically speaking.  If you're an athlete, but a mediocre footballer, the games will pass you by.

[eamonn]

Apparently renegotiation talks have failed and he stays on current terms and in current limbo.

[Smithy]

Apparently renegotiation talks have failed and he stays on current terms and in current limbo.

What's the source for that? Huge shame if true...

[VILLA MOLE]

You would think say £10  million loan fee no obligation to buy, but if you do buy it comes off the fee