Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[Somniloquism]

Ok I'm confused by that, Mings has played in 2 games but we're allowed to swap him out because he's picked up an injury, that seems odd.

No idea how we did that but Mings is no longer showing in the squad and Barkey is.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/clubs/52683--aston-villa/squad/

Edit: Rule change here.

Long-term injury or illness of an outfield player: during the league phase until matchday 6 included, the club concerned may temporarily replace a maximum of one outfield player and register a new outfield player.

[Drummond]

Me too, and it wasn't really announced, other than Barkely being added just after Mings got injured. I've checked the squad and whilst it doesn't show the swap, the list reflects what I'm saying,

AI said this.

Ross Barkley replaced Tyrone Mings in the Aston Villa UEFA Europa League squad due to Mings' hamstring injury, which is expected to sideline him for several months.
Aston Villa was permitted to make one change to their List A squad for the Europa League group stage, provided the player being replaced was injured for at least 60 days. Mings' injury, sustained against Liverpool on November 1, 2025, met this condition.
This change allowed Barkley, who was not initially registered in the European squad, to be included on the bench for a match against Maccabi Tel Aviv in November 2025.

[Sexual Ealing]

STOP IT!

[Monty]

I know, can we please get some dignity here.

[LeeB]

Back to the topic at hand, through no fault of his own I kind of want him to just piss off now, the vibe of 'how dare they?' seems to be increasing and whilst I do have sympathy for him, we're forced to try and do deals like this thanks to rules that tie our hands but allow his parent club to spunk £400m up the wall making the best team worse, whilst Jacob Ramsey is lost for no good reason to a frozen Saudi outpost.

[Drummond]

STOP IT!

But I'm bored on a Friday afternoon, there's no club football for another 9 days, and it's pissing it down outside.

[Sexual Ealing]

STOP IT!

But I'm bored on a Friday afternoon, there's no club football for another 9 days, and it's pissing it down outside.

AI is making you bored. Read things yourself!!

[Sexual Ealing]

Back to the topic at hand, through no fault of his own I kind of want him to just piss off now, the vibe of 'how dare they?' seems to be increasing and whilst I do have sympathy for him, we're forced to try and do deals like this thanks to rules that tie our hands but allow his parent club to spunk £400m up the wall making the best team worse, whilst Jacob Ramsey is lost for no good reason to a frozen Saudi outpost.

Same. If it's not going to happen for him there's no point prolonging the misery. I very much doubt Livepool would play ball with taking him back early though.

[Drummond]

STOP IT!

But I'm bored on a Friday afternoon, there's no club football for another 9 days, and it's pissing it down outside.

AI is making you bored. Read things yourself!!

I'm reading things myself, I just couldn't be arsed to read through the UEFA Rules.

[paul_e]

Ok I'm confused by that, Mings has played in 2 games but we're allowed to swap him out because he's picked up an injury, that seems odd.

No idea how we did that but Mings is no longer showing in the squad and Barkey is.

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/clubs/52683--aston-villa/squad/

Edit: Rule change here.

Long-term injury or illness of an outfield player: during the league phase until matchday 6 included, the club concerned may temporarily replace a maximum of one outfield player and register a new outfield player.

Hmm, that still doesn't explain why I was absolutely convinced that we'd put Barkley in to replace Garcia, no idea where I saw that because it's obviously wrong.

[VancouverLion]

Just seen him wearing a Villa Christmas jumper on Insta, must mean he's staying forever!

[cdbearsfan]

It has "I hate" written above "Villa", though. And he hasn't even bothered to change "Christmas" to "Winterval". Send him back.

[eamonn]

How do they know Mings will be out for 60 days? Seven weeks was the initial assessment wasn't it? Does that mean he can't play until that period of time now even if he was to heal quicker?

[Percy McCarthy]

How do they know Mings will be out for 60 days? Seven weeks was the initial assessment wasn't it? Does that mean he can't play until that period of time now even if he was to heal quicker?

I don’t think he’ll be able to play in the UEL now until we submit the new squad list on Feb 1st.

[Somniloquism]

How do they know Mings will be out for 60 days? Seven weeks was the initial assessment wasn't it? Does that mean he can't play until that period of time now even if he was to heal quicker?

The club must provide UEFA with the necessary medical evidence in one of UEFA's official languages. Before confirming the replacement, UEFA may require further medical examination of the outfield player by an expert appointed by UEFA at the club's expense. Once the injured or ill outfield player is fit to be fielded again, he becomes eligible and/or can resume his position in place of his substitute, who must consequently be removed from the list.

We obviously sent them medical evidence that two months or so would be the recovery time. In theory Mings comes back in after a minimum of 60 days if fit, and is still in the list instead of Barkley unless we officially remove him for when the next round squad has to be submitted.