Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[Dave]

Some of the lower and mid table teams looking for proven PL value could be interested - likes of Fulham, Everton, West Ham, Leeds, etc. Would think that more likely than him returning to a Liverpool shirt.

He can't play for anyone but us or Liverpool until next season.

I wonder how many more times we will need to post that out this season? (Ignoring the slightly tiresome already-know-the-answer-but-posting-it-anyway-attempts of course).

Edit: Not suggesting eye-digress is in the latter camp.

Except he could be sold so it’s not accurate anyway!

Which bit isn't accurate?

[Crown Hill]

That he can’t play for anybody but us or Liverpool.

He can be sold to another Club if he returns to Liverpool.

[Dave]

That he can’t play for anybody but us or Liverpool.

He can be sold to another Club if he returns to Liverpool.

He could, but he wouldn't be able to play for them until next season.

So they're probably not going to sign someone and pay him for nine months for very little return.

[algy]

I suspect based on nothing but my overactive imagination and current sleep deprivation-induced madness, that …

Emery agreed to sign Elliott on loan. Liverpool wanted rid permanently. Monchi was put in charge of negotiations and for some reason accepted the 10 game clause.

We’ve taken a look at him, decided there’s better ways to spend £35m considering he was mainly being brought in as a squad player / rotation option.

Our main leverage on Liverpool is in making it perfectly obvious that we’re not playing him again this season. If he makes the odd appearance they might choose to chance it on the basis we’d pay his wages and might inadvertently take him off their hands. If we don’t even let him on the subs bench it’s pretty obvious that he’d be better off making a couple of subs appearances or FA Cup starts with them than rotting away with us, so we’ll have a much stronger case for him to be sent back in January.

It’s probably in his best interests now for that to happen, it’s in our best interest to free up a loan space, and it’s in Liverpool’s best interests given the alternative is for him to not play competitive football for the best part of 12 months.

[martin o`who??]

Perhaps it's that 10 percent of me that's actually a nice guy but I do honestly feel sorry for him in all this.

[PeterWithesShin]

What if another club signs him, but then loans him to someone else with an option to buy. I bet he could play then!

[Sexual Ealing]

I can't help but feel we've been twats about it all.

[Cliftonville Villlain]

We're out of order.

[PeterWithesShin]

We should be docked points.

[Louzie0]

I hope he’s ok and understands the strategy, whatever it is.

[algy]

I can't help but feel we've been twats about it all.

I feel for the lad, he’s ended up with the shitty end of the stick. But we could’ve easily been shafted by Liverpool’s clause. It’s them who’ve created the situation.

[john2710]

We're out of order.

Why? Because we won't play somebody who isn't as good as those ahead of him and not worth the money we'd have to pay?

I do feel sorry for Elliot, but he's obviously not worth the money.

[PeterWithesShin]

It's not ideal but we're doing what we think is best for us. Liverpool will do that many times in the future, and no doubt Elliott will as well. He hasn't played for a few months and has earnt a fortune, i'm sure he's doing fine. I do hope we've spoken to him though about why etc.

[Dave]

I can't help but feel we've been twats about it all.

I feel for the lad, he’s ended up with the shitty end of the stick. But we could’ve easily been shafted by Liverpool’s clause. It’s them who’ve created the situation.

It's not. They wanted to sell him in the summer. We wanted to buy him but needed to piss about with clauses because of our sailing-close-to-the-wind accounting. They were just as happy taking £30m from Leipzig last summer but agreed to structure the deal to make it work for us.

We've now made the best of the situation, so good for us. But if there is a bad guy in this (and for now, it looks like we'll come out of it well, so I couldn't care less if we are), then it's us not them.

[cdbearsfan]

We're out of order.

Why? Because we won't play somebody who isn't as good as those ahead of him and not worth the money we'd have to pay?

I do feel sorry for Elliot, but he's obviously not worth the money.

I don't think we have much evidence of his worth one way or the other.