Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)

[PaulWinch again]

What was the fucking point in this whole deal?

It’s very odd, but I do think we are not great going forward at the moment. We score some great goals, but we are not creating a steady flow of great chances. That isn’t sustainable. There is more than enough scope to give Elliott a chance and I think we’re making a mistake.

[LeeB]

What was the fucking point in this whole deal?

It’s very odd, but I do think we are not great going forward at the moment. We score some great goals, but we are not creating a steady flow of great chances. That isn’t sustainable. There is more than enough scope to give Elliott a chance and I think we’re making a mistake.

Those 10 appearances will be kept back in case of emergency but we clearly have no intention whatsoever to spunk our remaining budget on him.

[PeterWithe]

Elliott didn't look at all happy when the subs were made and he wasn't one of them, which is understandable. You do start to wonder if this was a Monchi deal UE wasn't quite on board with, which is less understandable.

[LeeB]

I've said for a while if I was a player now I'd never sign on one of these kind of deals, you're such a hostage to it, I do feel for him a bit.

[Meanwood Villa]

This might sound daft but does the player know the details of the deal between the clubs? Or do they just get the info about what they're being paid, which training ground they need to turn up at etc.

[cdbearsfan]

Can we send him back in January, hypothetically?

[Sexual Ealing]

I doubt it.

[aj2k77]

Monchi shit the bed on this one. These are the kind of dumb and ill thought out deals, like the Sancho one, that you deserve getting the sack for. Guessand was a poorly scouted gamble, the 2 loans were just a stupid panicky deadline day waste of wages.

[Mister E]

You do start to wonder if this was a Monchi deal UE wasn't quite on board with...

And yet, all the commentary about the management set-up at Villa is that they (Emery, Vidagny and - previously - Monchi) all talk with each other and have a joint decision-making approach. I can't believe that Emery was somehow blindsided on this deal.

[Rigadon]

Whoever said above that they are waiting until such a point in the season when injuries kick in before playing him - that feels right to me.  I honestly don't know if he's any good, but the deal we seem to have struck with Liverpool, and our need to be relatively  frugal (still no sign of that Man City ruling eh, nah), means that we can't be taking a £40m risk.  It's shit for the player and I do feel sorry for him in that regard.

[NickF]

I read somewhere that Paqueta is unhappy again at West Ham so is it possible that could be back on in January and therefore we need to cut bait with Elliot and not trigger the obligation to buy. Elliot was the less desired alternative in the summer. Just a theory

[eamonn]

He was unhappy but then he scored on Sunday and West Ham won and he was happy again, the fickle, skilful, fat fvck.

[teamvillage]

I still am more inclined to believe the story that the issue is triggering the obligation in this set of SCR numbers. I guess we'll know come the 2nd half of December. The alternative is that Unai didn't want him in the first place (which I don't buy) or he's turned out to be more useless than Unai thought (which would surprise me).

[Crown Hill]

Well Monchi was removed/departed v quickly after the deadline passed so somebody wasn’t happy with the business!

[Bully2345]

I still am more inclined to believe the story that the issue is triggering the obligation in this set of SCR numbers. I guess we'll know come the 2nd half of December. The alternative is that Unai didn't want him in the first place (which I don't buy) or he's turned out to be more useless than Unai thought (which would surprise me).

Agree with this. I think we'll start seeing more of him in December