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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on April 04, 2023, 09:45:08 PM
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Go at it. In a spot for Europe now with it all to play for. Another super win.
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Worst penalty decision in recent memory? Thank fuck for VAR.
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Thank you Bertrand Traore. Off to finish my night shift in deepest, darkest Leicestershire. Wish them luck.
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Not bad for a side with only one player good enough to be a top half player.
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Not easy but got the job done. Belter from Bert. VAR in our favour. Surely that's it for Bailey.
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That was a very dramatic ending.
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Thank you Bert. What a great result. I love Unai's Villa, they're brilliant.
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Edit - double.
UTV
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Yess!!! What a finish for the winner.
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Not easy but got the job done. Belter from Bert. VAR in our favour. Surely that's it for Bailey.
It has to be. Bert needs to get fit and the only way to do it is by playing. We also have Coutinho back in a couple of weeks and hopefully Kamara is a little fitter along with Diego. This is all coming together very nicely.
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And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we have VAR. The award of the penalty in the first place was a joke.
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Get in
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That Bertrand Traore goal was a thing of beauty.
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Thank you Bert. What a great result. I love Unai's Villa, they're brilliant.
We were mad to loan him out after his first season. Gerrard’s irrational hatred of wingers.
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Love Bert, I didnt understand why he was loaned out and an over the moon he hit that tonight. He is exactly the kind of player you need for nights like this who can provide that little bit of magic.
Can you imagine him vs sherif mext season in Europe haha
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I like Graham Scott, I think he's one of the better refs but the free kick that lead to the penalty and then the penalty were farcical.
We just keep fucking winning!
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I had to double take when Traore came on.
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That's 32 points from 16 games, by my reckoning.
Equivalent to 76 points over a season.
Emery's a fucking genius.
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I thought Bert's goal against the Albion was special, but that was sensational
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Beautiful. Love how he gets the players to calm down during a game. Trust.
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Two things I was thinking which I didn’t want to say and jinx anything.
1. Nice to win when a team goes down to 10 men
2. We’re fucking ace
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Great win. Nerve jangling at the end, heart racing stuff. Imagine if we ever get really good again, my ticker wont be able to stand it!. Super VAR.
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
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Fuck you National Media
Fuck you Foxes
Fuck you Big 6 bollocks
We're Villa and we are No Longer a Soft Touch.
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
THIS
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Very happy with that..Thank you Villa. Liverpool and Chelsea behind us Sweet...
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Under Gerrard players walk away and hide under Emery players like let's get the f**k over to the Villa supporters
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Glad we got the result because we absolutely dominated them. What a beautiful finish from Traore to rip their hearts out - I wouldn't have it any other way.
I thought the midfield controlled the tempo and spacing fairly easily and the defense wasn't too bothered all things considered. Big shout to Ollie, who cannot stop scoring.
Proud of the boys, proud of the club - onto forest at VP! UTV
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Just wow what a result, dominated possession and great subs from the gaffer.
Chuffed for Bert after being bombed out by Gerrard, he gives glimpses of pure quality at times.
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Comfortable in the main , lacked a bit of tempo at times onwards and upwards
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
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Worst penalty decision in recent memory? Thank fuck for VAR.
I've no idea what the ref thought he saw. Ollie was in front of their player the whole time and clearly got fouled. Straight red? Fucking hell ref get yourself down to specsavers. Fantastic result and a masterclass from Emery to force home our player advantage. How many times in recent years have the opposition been down to ten men only for us to fuck it up?
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Surely now drop Bailey and bring in Bert
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Come on then Sky. Bullshit your way out of missing us from the top half now
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We completely dominated from midway through the first half. I thought the red card hoodoo was going to strike, but excellent effort.
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Say it quietly but we are in at the start of something special. The appointment of Unai Emery could be the most important thing to happen to this club for 40 years.
Up The F****ng Villa !!!!!
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If Emery had arrived a few games earlier, I reckon we'd be wetting ourselves over a potential tilt at a Champions League spot.
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I tell you what, that's a great result. Three great goals in the game too.
Not much we could do about theirs.
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An incredible second goal to cap off a great evening.
I had Castagne to get booked, Watkins anytime and correct score 1-2 at 120/1. I immediately cashed out like a true professional after that goal.
Let's fucking go Bertieee!
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Maybe Aston Villa Football Club is starting to wake up. Emery is performing miracles with this squad and I bloody love it!!!!
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another thoroughly professional win. they had brief spells but we controlled the game in the main. fantastic for traore - great goal. and at the end, the spirit was so clear in the squad - credit bailey for going straight over to traore at the final whistle and hugging him. a terrific 3 points
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Not sure I can put into words how much I enjoyed Berts goal.
The one thing that struck me was, we had a manager who asked for moments of magic, and now we have a manager that gets them. Beundia's pass for the first goal, berts finish, ollies form, the togetherness of this team. So much to love.
The last time I felt like this about Villa was under Sir Brian, it just feels like we have taken such a huge step forward as a club in the last 6 months. We'll have set backs, of course, but it feels like everything the club has tried to do since we came up is coming together under Unai, this missing part of the puzzle.
I think as a fan based we were mixed under how good these players are, and if they were at the ceiling. The club seemed to think they were capable of more, hence Deano and Gerrard going. And I think we can see now some of the value in decisions going back seasons. Many of those players are in there 3 or 4th season, and are looking the best they ever have.
Well done to everyone involved
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It's all going our way.
Ollie given onside for his goal.
Second yellow for Dewsbuty - Hayes.
Pen overruled by VAR.
Have we become a top 6 side in the eyes of POGMOL ?
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Bertie! What a beauty.
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Two things I was thinking which I didn’t want to say and jinx anything.
1. Nice to win when a team goes down to 10 men
2. We’re fucking ace
It wasn't just winning against 10-men, it's that we totally dominated from the red card onwards. How often have we played 10 men and you'd never guess we have a one-man advantage? Or the other team lifts their game and looks a real threat on the break making everything nervy?
We were measured, not rushed at all, played it about nicely looking for openings, and frankly it felt like a matter of time. It was such an UnVilla-like performance against 10-men, and I absolutely love it.
We do need to sign Harvey Barnes in the summer, that kid is a real talent.
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
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Thank you Bert. What a great result. I love Unai's Villa, they're brilliant.
We were mad to loan him out after his first season. Gerrard’s irrational hatred of wingers.
The reaction of all our players for the goal and at full time suggest he's a very popular member of the squad. He frustrated me as much as the next man , but Gerrard hasn't got that golden quality Emery has ... getting the best out of what you've got.
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Don't know about Top 6, but we're 7th now! :D
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
Third
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We completely dominated from midway through the first half. I thought the red card hoodoo was going to strike, but excellent effort.
Yee of little faith. The Bert did it again.
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Two things I was thinking which I didn’t want to say and jinx anything.
1. Nice to win when a team goes down to 10 men
2. We’re fucking ace
It wasn't just winning against 10-men, it's that we totally dominated from the red card onwards. How often have we played 10 men and you'd never guess we have a one-man advantage? Or the other team lifts their game and looks a real threat on the break making everything nervy?
We were measured, not rushed at all, played it about nicely looking for openings, and frankly it felt like a matter of time. It was such an UnVilla-like performance against 10-men, and I absolutely love it.
We do need to sign Harvey Barnes in the summer, that kid is a real talent.
And Maddison, the Cov twat.
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No words...should have sent...a poet.
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Thank you Bert. What a great result. I love Unai's Villa, they're brilliant.
We were mad to loan him out after his first season. Gerrard’s irrational hatred of wingers.
The reaction of all our players for the goal and at full time suggest he's a very popular member of the squad. He frustrated me as much as the next man , but Gerrard hasn't got that golden quality Emery has ... getting the best out of what you've got.
Gerrard would have made peak Messi look like Tonev.
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
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Perfect lay off by Ndidi.
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Thank you Bert. What a great result. I love Unai's Villa, they're brilliant.
We were mad to loan him out after his first season. Gerrard’s irrational hatred of wingers.
The reaction of all our players for the goal and at full time suggest he's a very popular member of the squad. He frustrated me as much as the next man , but Gerrard hasn't got that golden quality Emery has ... getting the best out of what you've got.
Gerrard's got nothing but a bad haircut and a massive ego. He won't get another decent managerial job after Emery has come in and completely embarrassed him with the same tools at his disposal. Good riddance!
Unai Emery is a god.
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It's all going our way.
Ollie given onside for his goal.
Am I missing something here? The commentary kept saying how much of a difficult decision it would be for VAR but on the screenshot they were looking at it wasn't even close. He was miles on.
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As an aside, I took a look at the lcfc hashtag on Twitter. It's beautiful stuff.
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
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Shit bastard.
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Worried we don't have enough fit players for this run in now.
Young gave absolutely everything tonight, how many more times can he do that this month.
Bertie's winner getting 3 points, enough vindication to bring him back alone.
Well done Unai, UTV.
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I have long stated my love for Bertrand Traore on here. He's a fucking genius.
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I’m in with the Leicester fans. Loads streaming for the exit as soon as the goal went in.
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Two things I was thinking which I didn’t want to say and jinx anything.
1. Nice to win when a team goes down to 10 men
2. We’re fucking ace
It wasn't just winning against 10-men, it's that we totally dominated from the red card onwards. How often have we played 10 men and you'd never guess we have a one-man advantage? Or the other team lifts their game and looks a real threat on the break making everything nervy?
We were measured, not rushed at all, played it about nicely looking for openings, and frankly it felt like a matter of time. It was such an UnVilla-like performance against 10-men, and I absolutely love it.
We do need to sign Harvey Barnes in the summer, that kid is a real talent.
I would have loved Barnes when we lost Grealish - problem is he would have cost 85m in that context.
We can probably get him for a lot less now
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Yeeeeesssss. Get in! Having a light ale after that.
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Wanted to pun it up a bit, in tribute to our maverick no 9 (?!)
Plastic Bertrand et al won't cut it on this night of nights. I came up short (natch)
But Pun Generator (https://pungenerator.org/puns?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=bert&commit=Generate+Puns%21)had these gems:
This is Gonna Bert
Please Hammer, Don't Bert 'Em
Do You Really Want to Bert Me
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I’m in with the Leicester fans. Loads streaming for the exit as soon as the goal went in.
Bit chilly - were they wearing Keith Weller tights?
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Come on then Sky. Bullshit your way out of missing us from the top half now
probably turn the league table upside down
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I'm speechless. We don't beat 10 men and we don't do late winners right? The times are changing.
So happy for Traore, he's scored a few good goals but were any of them in front of the fans? A special moment for him that will hopefully restart his career with us.
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Come on then Sky. Bullshit your way out of missing us from the top half now
probably turn the league table upside down
They'll show the Top 6 and the bottom 12
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According to the Beeb, Country Home was about to be subbed for Pereira at the next stoppage as they had already told the 4th official and that had filtered into the Press feed.
You do have to laugh.
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Dramatic finish...free kick to start with was farcical, Martinez moment of madness, credit Watkins he kept his head as did the VAR. To be fair Tony Gale even called it a free out straight away
At times we played lovely stuff. Leicester helped us by playing Vardy who made Danny Ings look like the roadrunner...We played nice stuff 11 v 11 but thought we need a lot earlier subs. Has that feel of the end of DOLs first season where no matter the performance we are winning or getting results. If I'm honest I thought Emery had a nightmare today, crap team selection, Bailey, timing of subs...then Bert crops with the winner out of nowhere....We go again
Martinez 6 - very good until that moment of madness on last play
Young 5 - Barnes was far too sharp for him but kept going, bit of a Kane/Grealish for the red I thought...
Konsa 6 - annoyed me with his passes at snail pace when we needed to lift tempo
Mings 7 - solid again, easy night
Moreno 7 - looks a really good signing, wrong option shooting when through second half though
Ramsey 5 - poor but horribly out of position on right
McGinn 7 - very good first half but tired second
Luiz 8.5 - few mistakes second half but best player on pitch for me
Buendia 7 - quality assist, not suited to his position tonight but nice touches
Watkins 8 - brilliant goal, top defending at end
Bailey 2 - Vichy like conviction, sad seeing a pro like that tonight
Duran...very (very) raw, Bert brilliant goal.
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Superb stuff Villa, fantastic goal from Bert, gotta start on Saturday for Bailey. I love you Unai.
UP THE VILLA
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My son and two of his kids have arrived tonight for the next week which is the cherry on the top of the cake this evening. Brilliant stuff Villa.
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
No he'd had a little dribble at the full back just before.
Goals like that are why I like him as a player, he's inconsistent but at his best I think he's as good as anyone at the club.
Mention for Luiz again who I truly believe is the best centre mid in the league on form, absolute Rolls Royce of a player, he played 5-6 passes today that were just magical.
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Everyone will be talking about Bert's strike, but Watkins' goal was brilliant. Great strength to hold off the defenders, and the toe-poke past the 'keeper was dead clever.
His weakness always seemed to be his first touch, but that's improved beyond all recognition in recent games. Top lad.
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My son and two of his kids have arrived tonight for the next week which is the cherry on the top of the cake this evening. Brilliant stuff Villa.
Enjoy mate!
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
No he'd had a little dribble at the full back just before.
I had a little dribble just after he scored
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I’m in with the Leicester fans. Loads streaming for the exit as soon as the goal went in.
Bit chilly - were they wearing Keith Weller tights?
I’m in the Keith Weller lounge. I thought it was the darts player.
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I fuckin love this Villa team!
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/aston-villa/12850122/leicester-1-2-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights
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Barnes or Bowen would add a lot to this team.
Great result though. Roll on saturday!
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I’m in with the Leicester fans. Loads streaming for the exit as soon as the goal went in.
Bit chilly - were they wearing Keith Weller tights?
Now that's a blast from the past.
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I have long stated my love for Bertrand Traore on here. He's a fucking genius.
Me too, he’s beautiful!!!
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Come on then Sky. Bullshit your way out of missing us from the top half now
probably turn the league table upside down
They'll show the Top 6 and the bottom 12
Bottom 13, they can't miss out Liverpool.
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I think they call this "wholesome content"
https://twitter.com/JUSTIN_AVFC_/status/1643354864783704064
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Sky highlights are already up on YouTube
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Come on then Sky. Bullshit your way out of missing us from the top half now
probably turn the league table upside down
They'll show the Top 6 and the bottom 12
Bottom 13, they can't miss out Liverpool.
My mistake, I thought they were below Brentford...
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I think they call this "wholesome content"
https://twitter.com/JUSTIN_AVFC_/status/1643354864783704064
Brilliant to see, Bert getting the praise he deserves.
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Loved that, listened to the game on the radio which I haven’t done in ages. Another great win and now 7th. Fantastic bring a Villa fan at the moment
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Just watched the VAR thing again. Ollie did superbly. Not sure what the referee saw but good for him for checking and rescinding all concerned. Great win Villa. Doesn't matter how. Just win. Three good goals in the game. Hope we can put Forest to bed and continue the run. Nice to win against 10 men. Great shithousing from Ashley, who made the most of the disgraceful tackles from Dewsbury-Hall. Loving this version of Villa and Unai is right up there with Saunders (Barton), Taylor and BFR for me.
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Was that Bert’s first touch?!
No he'd had a little dribble at the full back just before.
Goals like that are why I like him as a player, he's inconsistent but at his best I think he's as good as anyone at the club.
Mention for Luiz again who I truly believe is the best centre mid in the league on form, absolute Rolls Royce of a player, he played 5-6 passes today that were just magical.
Agree about Dougie, its like he’s floating around the pitch at the moment.
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I think they call this "wholesome content"
https://twitter.com/JUSTIN_AVFC_/status/1643354864783704064
Brilliant to see, Bert getting the praise he deserves.
Brilliant to see Bailey joining in aswell.
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I can’t stop watching Bertie’s goal. That was a thing of beauty. 2 worldies in 2 games from him and McGinn.
I love this team and I love the fact that it feels like something special is brewing now
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Credit for shutting down barnes in the second half too. Not sure what emery did but it worked.
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Shit bastard.
The first two touches were just foreplay building up to his climax !
Great result, onward and upwards.
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Just on the train at Leicester. What a result, controlled the game without creating too much. Fantastic strike by Bertie, no idea what that penalty shout was all about?
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Cool, calm and collective = Aston Villa.
Feckin brilliant again.
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We are the 4th most in form club in the major top 5 leagues, 20th in world football and joint second in the EPL.
Absolutely incredible.
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
But you wouldn't blame Ollie for singing one of their songs on the way home.
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30 mins of highlights coming up on SS Premier League at 10.45pm.
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Great win by the Villa boys! A masterstroke to bring Bert on in the 85th minute.......2 minutes later, the winner! Unai Emery, you genius!
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I have long stated my love for Bertrand Traore on here. He's a fucking genius.
Me too, he’s beautiful!!!
And me. I have a minor orgasm every time I see his goal against West Brom.
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No words...should have sent...a poet.
The ‘contact’ Bert made with ball for the goal was stunning.
I got it !
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I’m in with the Leicester fans. Loads streaming for the exit as soon as the goal went in.
Did you keep quiet when Bert popped it in?
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Was Ollie red carded after the non 'handball? Could have sworn I saw the ref whip it out.
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Winning away games under the lights is always special. We are finding different ways to win games. Fantastic again. UTV
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Just out of interest, how did Young end up ahead of Moreno for Blenheim Palace's first booking?
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Was Ollie red carded after the non 'handball? Could have sworn I saw the ref whip it out.
I was trying to work that out form the highlights - he shows a card. Couldnt work out what colour.
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Was Ollie red carded after the non 'handball? Could have sworn I saw the ref whip it out.
I was trying to work that out form the highlights - he shows a card. Couldnt work out what colour.
It was a yellow card.
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Wanted to pun it up a bit, in tribute to our maverick no 9 (?!)
Plastic Bertrand et al won't cut it on this night of nights. I came up short (natch)
But Pun Generator (https://pungenerator.org/puns?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=bert&commit=Generate+Puns%21)had these gems:
A Pun Generator? Pfft!
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Missed the first 20 mins after queuing for 40 mins, as there was chaos with some of the tickets and but I think we controlled the game even before the red card and Luiz and McGinn dominated the midfield.
Leicester just sat in tightly for the last 20 minutes and in that scenario it isn't easy even with the extra man. I think it was too late bringing on Traore as he couldn't have done any worse than Bailey, and it was a tremendous finish.
I couldn't see the non-penalty at the far end, but thank goodness for VAR for once!
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Just watched the VAR thing again. Ollie did superbly. Not sure what the referee saw but good for him for checking and rescinding all concerned. Great win Villa. Doesn't matter how. Just win. Three good goals in the game. Hope we can put Forest to bed and continue the run. Nice to win against 10 men. Great shithousing from Ashley, who made the most of the disgraceful tackles from Dewsbury-Hall. Loving this version of Villa and Unai is right up there with Saunders (Barton), Taylor and BFR for me.
Steady on Steve, we were either champions are runners up and winning cups with those guys. Unai’s done well but….
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At 1.1 in the second half even before the red card I knew we were going to win.
Haven’t had that Zen feeling for about 20 years.
We are a now a Juggernaut.
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Duran certainly put it about when he came on.
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Just on the train at Leicester. What a result, controlled the game without creating too much. Fantastic strike by Bertie, no idea what that penalty shout was all about?
Leicester players cheating the referee into giving it
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Perfect lay off by Ndidi.
We must stop helping opposition plays a with their assist stats. Cucarella on Saturday, Ndidi tonight both set up goals😳
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Has there been an Unai post match interview yet?
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Cracking win. Leicester were a bit better than I thought they were going to be so it was a tough one. Would have liked us to create more than we did though if I'm being picky but that table is looking ridiculous isn't it? Feckin hell.
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Has there been an Unai post match interview yet?
He hasn't got time,he gone back to work
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Cracking win. Leicester were a bit better than I thought they were going to be so it was a tough one. Would have liked us to create more than we did though if I'm being picky but that table is looking ridiculous isn't it? Feckin hell.
Leicester are fighting for survival , Forrest will be on Saturday . There really aren't any easy games , especially this time of the season. Are we still under the media radar !
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Just watched Barnes' goal again. Great first touch, pace and strength to get past Young and a perfect finish. Sign him up.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
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My concern with Barnes was he did very little in the second half.
A player that has moments but does not do it often enough.
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There was no reception up in Ally Pally (ironic, given the fuck-off BBC reception mast outside) so couldn't keep tabs on this, what a lovely surprise to read about a late Bertie wonder winner!
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My concern with Barnes was he did very little in the second half.
A player that has moments but does not do it often enough.
He's got 9 goals this season which is a very good return for a winger in a shit side. And in his defence they were playing with 10 men for half of that second half.
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
TBF Leeds had/has The Mekons, Gang of Four, Delta 5 and Soft Cell, so not too shabby.
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Has there been an Unai post match interview yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk)
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My concern with Barnes was he did very little in the second half.
A player that has moments but does not do it often enough.
He's got 9 goals this season which is a very good return for a winger in a shit side. And in his defence they were playing with 10 men for half of that second half.
Good point but I would prefer Johnson from Forest.
A more complete footballer IMO.
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I’m in with the Leicester fans. Loads streaming for the exit as soon as the goal went in.
Bit chilly - were they wearing Keith Weller tights?
Now that's a blast from the past.
I was a nipper. Star Soccer
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
TBF Leeds had/has The Mekons, Gang of Four, Delta 5 and Soft Cell, so not too shabby.
+ The Bridewell Taxis
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I really enjoyed that win. Proper FTF stuff.
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Has there been an Unai post match interview yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk)
He's a bit special , and dare I say it knows what he's doing . He's got plenty in the bank for any future blips ( ironically like Tyrone and Mr Gerrard's little spat !) Last time I mention our previous Boss ... honest !
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
TBF Leeds had/has The Mekons, Gang of Four, Delta 5 and Soft Cell, so not too shabby.
+ The Bridewell Taxis
+ Pale Saints
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Foxes talk is a lot of fun tonight. Oh how fickle they’ve become. Vardy should never play for them again apparently.
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Has there been an Unai post match interview yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk)
Great, thanks Hilts.
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Foxes talk is a lot of fun tonight. Oh how fickle they’ve become. Vardy should never play for them again apparently.
He makes Ings look mobile.
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That decision to give the pnealty was a shocker, but then so was the free kick that led up to it. There was a coming together, the ref gave it to us, the crowd went mad, so he changed his mind and gave it to them. Abysmal.
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Has there been an Unai post match interview yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXz_auQL7Rk)
He's a bit special , and dare I say it knows what he's doing . He's got plenty in the bank for any future blips ( ironically like Tyrone and Mr Gerrard's little spat !) Last time I mention our previous Boss ... honest !
Not sure Gerrard had enough in the bank to treat Mings the way hs did tbh, only my opinion though. Can't see Mings getting the captaincy back now anyway, simply due to his age now.
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Credit for shutting down barnes in the second half too. Not sure what emery did but it worked.
Young got caught once and smart and experienced enough to stop it happening again. My mate thought he should've been subbed but he ended up getting their lad sent off.
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We did enough, without creating much. Brilliant goal from Bert. Bailey offers nothing at the moment. We're in with a shout of the top 7.
How the ref gave a penalty I have no idea, an atrocious decision. He must have been 25 yards away.
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Credit for shutting down barnes in the second half too. Not sure what emery did but it worked.
What he did was to stop Faes from having all the time in the world to ping his 50 yard passes to Barnes.
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Foxes talk is a lot of fun tonight. Oh how fickle they’ve become. Vardy should never play for them again apparently.
He really shouldn't. Their keeper is dreadful too, Ndidi used to be a very good player but was awful tonight. Maddison was disappointing too. Barnes aside, I thought their two CBs were decent but they were poor everywhere else.
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Just watched Barnes' goal again. Great first touch, pace and strength to get past Young and a perfect finish. Sign him up.
Great bit of play, his first touch took Young completely out the game.
I’ve always thought Maddison was a good player but he was very quiet tonight, didn’t help him or them that he was playing wide so couldn’t really influence the game, oh well!
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That decision to give the pnealty was a shocker, but then so was the free kick that led up to it. There was a coming together, the ref gave it to us, the crowd went mad, so he changed his mind and gave it to them. Abysmal.
I have no idea why the ref was sent to the screen, when it was obvious from the first viewing that it wasn't a penalty. I don't know why the VAR official didn't just say to the ref that it wasn't a pen.
What a strike to win it by Traore though. Made it a bit tougher than it needed to be at times, but what a way to win it!!
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Even the Leicester fans I was sat with were saying it was the worst decision they'd seen.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
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I have no idea why the ref was sent to the screen, when it was obvious from the first viewing that it wasn't a penalty. I don't know why the VAR official didn't just say to the ref that it wasn't a pen.
I don't think that is how VAR works in those cases. If the ref decides on a decision on the field, he has to be shown evidence his judgment might be wrong via the screen, VAR can't overrule him directly. It is only in the absolute like an offside that an instant override without a video review is valid. Judgement calls are still down to the referee.
So in this case, all VAR could do is state that "they didn't see the foul he indicated for the reason for the Penalty and in fact Watkins appeared to get there first and was actually fouled. Why don't you look yourself?"
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Someone on the right wing might be a better option, Bowen or Johnson.
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That decision to give the pnealty was a shocker, but then so was the free kick that led up to it. There was a coming together, the ref gave it to us, the crowd went mad, so he changed his mind and gave it to them. Abysmal.
I have no idea why the ref was sent to the screen, when it was obvious from the first viewing that it wasn't a penalty. I don't know why the VAR official didn't just say to the ref that it wasn't a pen.
What a strike to win it by Traore though. Made it a bit tougher than it needed to be at times, but what a way to win it!!
It’s still a subjective decision and VAR can on recommend, the actual decision must be made by on pitch official.
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I have no idea why the ref was sent to the screen, when it was obvious from the first viewing that it wasn't a penalty. I don't know why the VAR official didn't just say to the ref that it wasn't a pen.
I don't think that is how VAR works in those cases. If the ref decides on a decision on the field, he has to be shown evidence his judgment might be wrong via the screen, VAR can't overrule him directly. It is only in the absolute like an offside that an instant override without a video review is valid. Judgement calls are still down to the referee.
So in this case, all VAR could do is state that "they didn't see the foul he indicated for the reason for the Penalty and in fact Watkins appeared to get there first and was actually fouled. Why don't you look yourself?"
Yep. VAR can't diss the ref to the max. Bad form.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
Harvey Proctor is better than Bailey, but I am not convinced he is what we need.
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Quite odd reading on here we dominated. Watched Match Choice without knowing the result and it seemed to be all Leicester.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
Harvey Proctor is better than Bailey, but I am not convinced he is what we need.
Barnes clearly has bags of talent that is not getting used at Leicester.
Exactly the sort of player we should be looking at.
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I think we should tone it down a bit on Bailey. He's part of a team that's beating all comers. If Emery keeps picking him and we keep winning then what's the problem?
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Quite odd reading on here we dominated. Watched Match Choice without knowing the result and it seemed to be all Leicester.
You would think that I agree but we controlled it most of the time .they didn't show that mcginn shot which was going in until it was blocked neither.
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I think we should tone it down a bit on Bailey. He's part of a team that's beating all comers. If Emery keeps picking him and we keep winning then what's the problem?
We're doing well despite Bailey. He can't beat a defender, and does nothing except try 10 yard passes backwards. He was awful tonight.
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He's causing the opposition problems, it then doing the same to his own team.
If he calmed down a bit and got his head up he'd be very good indeed. It happened again tonight where he was taking people on and then trying again when a simple ball to Luiz in the D would have resulted in a clear opportunity to score. It was Watkins on Saturday.
He occupies a couple of players, if he could release the ball when he'd drawn them in, oh why am I bothering, he's not going to change is he?
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I didn't think Leicester were too bad and they caused us a few problems in the first half. They should be doing better than they are with the likes of Maddison and Barnes though. I think they'll be fine in the end, Southampton, Forest and Bournemouth for the drop.
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Fuck you National Media
Fuck you Foxes
Fuck you Big 6 bollocks
We're Villa and we are No Longer a Soft Touch.
This
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Leicester had just binned their manager, were fighting for their lives and had a recent heavy defeat of us in the memory, that's a set of circumstances that historically would have done for us.
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As soon as Bert's goal went in, half the King Power crowd disappeared for an early dart. Who does that when you're only 2-1 down and the team need you? It's not like the Leicester players weren't putting a shift in or anything.
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
TBF Leeds had/has The Mekons, Gang of Four, Delta 5 and Soft Cell, so not too shabby.
+ The Bridewell Taxis
I’d love to see an exhaustive list but that seems incredibly threadbare compared to Brummagem. Then again, where isn’t?
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I particularly liked the “you’re going down with your Wi-Fi “ chant
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I particularly liked the “you’re going down with your Wi-Fi “ chant
Like that too. :D
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I don't buy into Leicester should be doing better. They are deservedly down there because most of their side is wank. Having 2 good players and a couple of others that can have a good day isn't enough to be anywhere but in a relegation fight, as we know all too well from the last decade or so.
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I particularly liked the “you’re going down with your Wi-Fi “ chant
Haha, brilliant.
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I particularly liked the “you’re going down with your Wi-Fi “ chant
Haha, brilliant.
That's up with there with Spurs fans singing "even your telly's shit" when the big screens went down at VP as they battered us, when we were indeed, a bit shit.
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I think we should tone it down a bit on Bailey. He's part of a team that's beating all comers. If Emery keeps picking him and we keep winning then what's the problem?
Exactly Hillybilly. People are banging on about Barnes being better than Bailey forget that Barnes is part of a team heading for the championship. He has contributed to their demise.
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My concern with Barnes was he did very little in the second half.
A player that has moments but does not do it often enough.
I don't know, Barnes is very good - that was his 10th goal this season in a struggling team....
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Barnes is a good player, being in a struggling team doesn't make him shit. Same as Benteke, Delph, Grealish, Platt, Yorke, Daley and so on weren't shit even though they were parts of Villa sides that were shit.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
Hang on, let me assess this. Bailey plays regularly for a team heading up the table. Barnes plays for a team that's heading for the second division and he has played his part in that. I think answer is clear.
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I didn't think Leicester were too bad and they caused us a few problems in the first half. They should be doing better than they are with the likes of Maddison and Barnes though. I think they'll be fine in the end, Southampton, Forest and Bournemouth for the drop.
Unfortunately, I think you're right mate.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
Hang on, let me assess this. Bailey plays regularly for a team heading up the table. Barnes plays for a team that's heading for the second division and he has played his part in that. I think answer is clear.
5 months ago you could have said that about many of our players who weren’t performing to their actual ability. Very few of our players would have been targets for better sides. Even Emi pre WC heroics. I think Barnes is a super player, only just turned 25, who would improve with great coaching. Bailey is already getting great coaching and while others have improved he’s still struggling every game.
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David Platt played in teams that were nearly relegated twice. The second time for a side that only won 9 games. And then moved for a massive fee. And was relegated. I don't think anyone doubts how good Platt was at that time depite the teams he played for being shit a lot of the time.
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Platt was a consistent contributor, Barnes is not. To compare the two is an insult to our former great player.
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TV I respect your opinion but turning Barnes into reincarnation of Johan Cruyff is a bit OTT.
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Six points off the Champions League places after the start to the season we had, absolutely incredible.
Another excellent away win - far from comfortable but the control and calmness in our play is something else. Watkins and McGinn great again, Luiz gliding around the pitch, finally an assist for Buendia and what a hit from Bert. Marvelous.
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How the heart sings!
For the second successive game the entire Remy family jumps round the room in unison at a 2nd Villa goal. Such joyous celebrations.
Well played my team - you have my adoration- that twitter clip at the end nearly brings a tear, shades of our promotion season.
I’ve always had a soft spot for Bertie and felt he didn’t get a chance under the previous bonehead.
Can one of you bright buttons please post a tiny clip of Bertie’s goal - I want it printed on my conscience.
Madison (I think) tries a free kick to beat Emi at the near post, he catches it like you’d pick up your cat and waves a finger at him with a smile like don’t take the piss son, Messi can’t beat me from there.
Dougie Dougie - the reason they’re not pundit-w-fest over you is because your value to suitors would go sky high and will fail in a bid and wail mean Villa won’t let them buy you cheaply or even sell. No chance. Brazil are grateful beneficiaries too.
Watkins ever masterful - earlier this season the amount of chances he used to miss - I wanted him replaced! Glad no one listened - goal machine!
Mings clearance after clearance- what a beast.
Konsa - teeny bit slow on the pass but solid otherwise.
Young - enigma - bypassed way too easily for Barney’s goal but made up with play later, maybe should’ve come off straight after the red. Experienced head.
Bailey isn’t understanding Emery’s coaching or ideas he looks unsure when receiving the ball.
Still won without Kamara and Cash.
The football at times was mesmerising from us even the commentators had to acknowledge.
Ramsey wasn’t at his marauding best but still ran socks off.
King of Scotland was superb as well nearly got a dupe of his Chavski goal.
Great through ball by Buendia and thought Moreno had a good game too.
Those 2 VAR calls - what an agonising wait each time but relief after.
I heard the away section throughout the game - wish I could’ve been there.
I’m going v Forest and have demanding wife, kids, job, parents, tasks etc but it’s all I can think about !
Super Unai Emereeeeeeeee
Super Unai Emereeeeeeeee
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We don't need Barnes unless he is as effective on the right, which I highly doubt.
Pulisic (a long shot) or Bowen much better options.
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I thought we controlled the game for large periods even before the sending off without really creating that much, still comfortably the better team though.
For them, Barnes had a great game, but nobody else really threatened. Their whole defensive unit from their goalkeeper onwards just ooze mediocrity. They've also been carrying Vardy for the nostalgia value for too long and it's caught up with them this season. If they do stay up this season I'd fear for them next as they're bound to lose Tielemans, Barnes and Maddison and they'll really struggle to replace them.
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Harvey Barnes has scored one less goal than our top scorer, but apparently he isn't good enough for us? He got 10 assists last season in 32 matches which equals the same amount Joe ever got for us. Whenever he hasn't scored much his assist stats have rocketed and vice versa for assists.
I have him (and Iheanacho) to score against us every single time. Barnes is like that annoying fucker Muzzy Izzet who you just knew would conjure up some brilliance against us.
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Not the best we’ve played but in the winning groove at the moment so happy days.
As for Barnes he is a superb player and would suit the way we play. Works hard defensively and excellent going forward.
Watched the game in a sports bar in New York today and in walks Jonathon Kodjia with his Mrs. What a nice bloke, think he was as surprised that anyone recognised him as I was that he was there.
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TV I respect your opinion but turning Barnes into reincarnation of Johan Cruyff is a bit OTT.
He’s exactly the sort of player who would improve us. We need pace up top and he has it. Chips in with a fair few goals too.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
Hang on, let me assess this. Bailey plays regularly for a team heading up the table. Barnes plays for a team that's heading for the second division and he has played his part in that. I think answer is clear.
Yes, because that’s how football works. Bloody hell.
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Bertie T…that’s why I love him, flaws and all because he can do something like that and win a match. Always worth keeping around.
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Couldn’t believe how the Ref gave the pen, what was he seeing? Thankfully VAR was able to do its job properly for once. And, our first going to VAR for potential offside, what was that all about?
Other than that, it was a harder than it should have been victory. We need to follow up the form with a convincing win on Saturday and then we’ll be ready for the Sportwashers.
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Couldn’t believe how the Ref gave the pen, what was he seeing? Thankfully VAR was able to do its job properly for once. And, our first going to VAR for potential offside, what was that all about?
Other than that, it was a harder than it should have been victory. We need to follow up the form with a convincing win on Saturday and then we’ll be ready for the Sportwashers.
It was interesting to see them sit off us. As we get better we’ll see it more and more and have to be able to play as the dominate team. We got the job done which is something but the speed in the passing needs to be quicker.
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That take by Barnes was incredible. In the light of day and with the 3 points in the bag, I can watch it and actually admire it. I’d love to sign him.
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That take by Barnes was incredible. In the light of day and with the 3 points in the bag, I can watch it and actually admire it. I’d love to sign him.
The first touch to get the ball under control like that at speed was outstanding.
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Wasn’t it just. I didn’t appreciate it last night, I thought here we go again. He always shines against us but his stats are very good so I presume he’s always decent.
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
This may have been said elsewhere, but Barnes has scored 10 goals from the wing this season in a really struggling side. I’d suggest his contribution is the only reason they are not already dead and buried.
Not taking anything away from Bertie T, i love the madness, but I’ve always thought Barnes is a terrific player and better than what we have. Unai, will no doubt have his own ideas.
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David Platt played in teams that were nearly relegated twice. The second time for a side that only won 9 games. And then moved for a massive fee. And was relegated. I don't think anyone doubts how good Platt was at that time depite the teams he played for being shit a lot of the time.
Presumably nobody thinks that Lloris is better than Emi either, despite playing for the team who are 4th in the table.
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I think we should tone it down a bit on Bailey. He's part of a team that's beating all comers. If Emery keeps picking him and we keep winning then what's the problem?
He's not very good?!
Seriously, although he didn't get as much of the ball as he probably should have had last night, his contribution was zilch.
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Shout out for Konsa last night: I thought he distributed the ball pretty well for the most part.
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
TBF Leeds had/has The Mekons, Gang of Four, Delta 5 and Soft Cell, so not too shabby.
+ The Bridewell Taxis
I’d love to see an exhaustive list but that seems incredibly threadbare compared to Brummagem. Then again, where isn’t?
Sheffield and Newcastle have broader and better IMO to Leeds. Similar sized.
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Shout out for Konsa last night: I thought he distributed the ball pretty well for the most part.
He was excellent on Saturday (apart from that trip he got away with on edge of the box)
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Another sensational performance and result completely ignored by main stream media, so we're still under the radar, which is brilliant.
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Harvey Barnes is an excellent player and took his goal brilliantly last night. I'd have him over Bailey in a heartbeat. But with the English player premium, I'm sure we'll be looking elsewhere.
It's the first time I've been to King Power. Feels a bit small doesn't it? That drum is horrific, I'd be gutted if we ever go down that route. I thought it was interesting their main support is placed next to the away fans rather than at an end. Does that happen often? Not sure what the thinking is there but in fairness there was a spell when they created quite a bit of noise.
As for the game, very good controlled performance. We do struggle against a low block and needed a moment of magic to finish it, but another great win and Watkins marches on.
UTFV.
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That was the first goal we've conceded from open play in 6 games. It was beauty tbf but Young got under the ball a bit and too close to Barnes, his first touch was perfect and left Ash for dead.
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I hate to say it as it rams home my own mortality, but that was the first time since his return Young hasn't lived up to his name. Barnes proper had him on toast.
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Shout out for Konsa last night: I thought he distributed the ball pretty well for the most part.
He can't do much right for me at the moment....blind pass near the end with his left foot was ridiculous, stupid mistake with Daka for the throw in nearly let them in for a goal....it's the pace of his passing that pisses me off. Barely makes Mings a lot of the time. This was during the second half when we needed to move their 10 men a lot quicker. Would have been ideal to bring Carlos on in hindsight.
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To be fair that all stopped in the second half. Some tactics genius will be able to tell me why, but he didn't really have a kick in the second half.
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That was the first goal we've conceded from open play in 6 games. It was beauty tbf but Young got under the ball a bit and too close to Barnes, his first touch was perfect and left Ash for dead.
Sometimes you have to give the forward the credit, was an outstanding goal. From the pin perfect cross field pass to the touch, run and finish. Surely Konsa should have been helping out Young a bit quicker?
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It was the sort of opposition goal you applaud. Pass, control, placed it so accurately. Just a great move.
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I hate to say it as it rams home my own mortality, but that was the first time since his return Young hasn't lived up to his name. Barnes proper had him on toast.
Although his nous and experience did contribute getting Leicester down to ten men.
Unless the fullback is a pace merchant like Kyle Walker, Barnes can do that to anyone.
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I didn't think Leicester were too bad and they caused us a few problems in the first half. They should be doing better than they are with the likes of Maddison and Barnes though. I think they'll be fine in the end, Southampton, Forest and Bournemouth for the drop.
Unfortunately, I think you're right mate.
They’ve taken 1 point from their last 5 games and along with Southampton have lost the most games in the division, 18. They’re shit.
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Oh yeah. ..Good ebening Gary f'n Linaker !
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Another great win and another great away day.
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They let Brendan Rodgers take the piss for the first few months of the season when he whinged constantly about the lack of investment, should have been fired then like Bournemouth did with Parker. I don't understand firing him last week though without having a replacement lined up. You often end up with a caretaker making soft selection decisions like bringing back Vardy. Even with 10 men Daka was a lot more of a threat.
They have a rubbish keeper and don't look like scoring many. Not a good combination at this stage of the season. When the owner is in the departure lounge as we saw with Lerner, it does suck all ambition out of a club.
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I was at it again, decrying the Manager at the start of the second half for not doing something about Barnes threat and how Young was struggling, but he made me look a plum again.
What I have noticed over the last few games is that we seem to take the sting out of teams. They have a good go at it in the first half but then seem to run out of ideas and inspiration, it was happening last night even before the red card.
We always give teams opportunities, but throw everything at defending, make our own luck and come out on top. What a marvelous habit to have.
Towards the end last night I felt a genuine excitement that I haven't experienced since the days of MON. We will still lose games, we will go on bad runs, it happens but what we must do when this happens is show patience and we will get the rewards.
Finally, it's clear that Tony Gale shouldn't do West Ham games, he displayed proper balance in his observations and that clapper going all through the game sounded like a chippie at work in the stand.
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Oh yeah. ..Good ebening Gary f'n Linaker !
Foreign people who don't speak English with grammatical and phonetic perfection are hilarious. He's like someone off that wonderful sitcom Mind Your Language which is on at the moment
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I think, as with Chelsea, we need to honour the Leicester defence for their superb assistance work with one of our goals
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I hate to say it as it rams home my own mortality, but that was the first time since his return Young hasn't lived up to his name. Barnes proper had him on toast.
Although his nous and experience did contribute getting Leicester down to ten men.
Unless the fullback is a pace merchant like Kyle Walker, Barnes can do that to anyone.
If under Unai we are to continue our great tradition of signing players who've played well against us then Barnes has to be a shoe-in for the close season
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TV I respect your opinion but turning Barnes into reincarnation of Johan Cruyff is a bit OTT.
He’s exactly the sort of player who would improve us. We need pace up top and he has it. Chips in with a fair few goals too.
Yes but I think he’s been dead for a few years.
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Fantastic away night, simply superb.
One thing though. Safe standing can't come quick enough for me. It was carnage in the couple of minutes following Bert's goal as people piled down the seats in front of them and a few doing involuntary falls down the stairs. It was generally good natured and you love to see the limbs from a last minute winner, but I'm black and blue this morning and I only ended up on the floor for a few seconds.
Fucking ace though.
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I hate to say it as it rams home my own mortality, but that was the first time since his return Young hasn't lived up to his name. Barnes proper had him on toast.
Although his nous and experience did contribute getting Leicester down to ten men.
Unless the fullback is a pace merchant like Kyle Walker, Barnes can do that to anyone.
If under Unai we are to continue our great tradition of signing players who've played well against us then Barnes has to be a shoe-in for the close season
I was thinking that reading the thread, would we be guilty - no idea how he does in other games but always plays well against us. I think he could be a gem with Unai's coaching!
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It was the sort of opposition goal you applaud. Pass, control, placed it so accurately. Just a great move.
Absolutely. I was irritated we'd conceded but sometimes you just have to accept that in the standard of competition we're in that players will produce some magic. It wasn't a goal to be pissed off about, unlike last time we played them and gifted them goals.
The pass, first touch control, shifted it quickly and then a clinical finish. There are minor points that you could suggest be improved but in reality you just have to do what we did; suck it up and score more than them.
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I hate to say it as it rams home my own mortality, but that was the first time since his return Young hasn't lived up to his name. Barnes proper had him on toast.
Although his nous and experience did contribute getting Leicester down to ten men.
Unless the fullback is a pace merchant like Kyle Walker, Barnes can do that to anyone.
If under Unai we are to continue our great tradition of signing players who've played well against us then Barnes has to be a shoe-in for the close season
We are already packed on the left. Last night, Moreno and Buendia linked up well, Ramsey, Digne and Coutinho can also play there. We don't need Barnes as well blocking their space.
IMHO, our immediate concern should be the right. The only good thing Bailey is doing at the moment is hugging the touchline, therefore stretching play and creating more space on the left for the above to operate. We are a Mahrez, Salah, Saka quality player away from competing for the Champions League spots next season. Be great if Traore steps up but probably not consistent enough. For now, save our money for sorting out the issues on the right.
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Save "our" money? It's not my money. If two multibillionaires want to spend it, let them.
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I was at it again, decrying the Manager at the start of the second half for not doing something about Barnes threat and how Young was struggling, but he made me look a plum again.
What I have noticed over the last few games is that we seem to take the sting out of teams. They have a good go at it in the first half but then seem to run out of ideas and inspiration, it was happening last night even before the red card.
We always give teams opportunities, but throw everything at defending, make our own luck and come out on top. What a marvelous habit to have.
Towards the end last night I felt a genuine excitement that I haven't experienced since the days of MON. We will still lose games, we will go on bad runs, it happens but what we must do when this happens is show patience and we will get the rewards.
Finally, it's clear that Tony Gale shouldn't do West Ham games, he displayed proper balance in his observations and that clapper going all through the game sounded like a chippie at work in the stand.
I was looking at Chris Suttons predictions on the beeb, he yet again predicted us not to win. The other predictor was a young actor and West Ham fan. He predicted us to win and that Villa sucked the life out of West Ham and would do the same to Leicester, with our passing. He said he meant is a compliment and i know exactly what we did, we totally dominate that second half, without creating loads, but largely just nullified Leicester.
Completely agree about Gale, he was good last night, where he was so one eyed a few weeks back.
I am so excited about whats happening.
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There were a few opportunities where we failed to take a shot from the edge of the area when in a good position which was mildly frustrating but I suppose the theory is to move the opposition around to create space and a better chance. We appear to do this by, instead of passing at pace, slowing it down and drawing the opposition players onto us.
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Is anyone else still looking at the bottom 3 and doing the maths as to whether we are safe yet? Bournemouth can get to 54 ("playing against each other they both cant win" is too complicated).
No just me then.
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It's no secret - Emery has said he wants us to dictate the pace of the game and control it. For a lot of last night we did that, less so on Saturday.
It invites teams to come and close us down, then we use the space for the two wider midfielders of the four to move the ball quickly - either passing like Buendia last night or Ramsey on Saturday running with the ball. He was much more effective doing that vs Chelsea as he was playing on the left.
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I didn't think last night was one of our better performances to be honest, at least until the sending off which obviously changed things massively. We seemed a bit pedestrian and our passing lacked a bit of zip and imagination. Bailey was anonymous and Buendia and and Ramsey have had better games recently. But what a lovely habit to be in of just finding ways to win games, week after week.
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I agree that Barnes’ goal was very good but Olly’s was equally impressive for me. Great first touch then held off two defenders trying to shove him off the ball before poking it past the keeper before had time to set. He’s absolutely on fire at the moment.
You can see the confidence growing in all of them, they look so much more comfortable stoking the ball around now. Saturday can’t come quickly enough for me to see us complete an East Midlands double.
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Is anyone else still looking at the bottom 3 and doing the maths as to whether we are safe yet? Bournemouth can get to 54 ("playing against each other they both cant win" is too complicated).
No just me then.
sadly the leagues gone as well.... :(
UTV
The Doc
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I didn't think last night was one of our better performances to be honest, at least until the sending off which obviously changed things massively. We seemed a bit pedestrian and our passing lacked a bit of zip and imagination. Bailey was anonymous and Buendia and and Ramsey have had better games recently. But what a lovely habit to be in of just finding ways to win games, week after week.
I think we seem to raise our game and look more impressive, the better the opposition.
Against the dross we tend to look less convincing. Maybe it's because we don't really need to be at our best.
I dunno, though, end of the day, like you said, who cares, good teams still win whilst not being at their best and we're doing that, happy days.
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I didn't think last night was one of our better performances to be honest, at least until the sending off which obviously changed things massively. We seemed a bit pedestrian and our passing lacked a bit of zip and imagination. Bailey was anonymous and Buendia and and Ramsey have had better games recently. But what a lovely habit to be in of just finding ways to win games, week after week.
I think we seem to raise our game and look more impressive, the better the opposition.
Against the dross we tend to look less convincing. Maybe it's because we don't really need to be at our best.
I dunno, though, end of the day, like you said, who cares, good teams still win whilst not being at their best and we're doing that, happy days.
It looked they were happy with a draw and trying to nick anything extra. To be honest, their survival isn't going to come down to games against the Big 6/7 like us :) it'll be the results against the rest of the bottom feeders that define their season.
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Last game of season Brighton home, could be a fight for a Europa League spot or even a CL spot!
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[IMHO, our immediate concern should be the right. The only good thing Bailey is doing at the moment is hugging the touchline, therefore stretching play and creating more space on the left for the above to operate. We are a Mahrez, Salah, Saka quality player away from competing for the Champions League spots next season. Be great if Traore steps up but probably not consistent enough. For now, save our money for sorting out the issues on the right.
Agree with all of this, we need another quality right-back in particular.
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Is anyone else still looking at the bottom 3 and doing the maths as to whether we are safe yet? Bournemouth can get to 54 ("playing against each other they both cant win" is too complicated).
No just me then.
Nope once we beat Palace I knew we'd be safe.
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[IMHO, our immediate concern should be the right. The only good thing Bailey is doing at the moment is hugging the touchline, therefore stretching play and creating more space on the left for the above to operate. We are a Mahrez, Salah, Saka quality player away from competing for the Champions League spots next season. Be great if Traore steps up but probably not consistent enough. For now, save our money for sorting out the issues on the right.
Agree with all of this, we need another quality right-back in particular.
RB is a must, as a 2nd keeper. Not sure if Carlos is the real deal so may need another CB. And we need a bit more in midfield too.
It isn't wholesale changes just 2-3 first teamers and same for squad/back up. If we get into Europe a little more
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One thing I've noticed is the team spirit. I feel this is the best we've had since 1980/82. We've had some good sides between now and then but the togetherness of this bunch is outstanding. Ref: Bertrand Traore last night.
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One thing I've noticed is the team spirit. I feel this is the best we've had since 1980/82. We've had some good sides between now and then but the togetherness of this bunch is outstanding. Ref: Bertrand Traore last night.
See Konza giving it the full 'David Platt fingers' whilst chasing after Bert
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Leicester deserve to go down just for Kasabian.
Forest - Paperlace.
Oooh if it comes to underperforming cities and good music
Leeds Nottingham Leicester must be in the mix. Piss poor compared to most of us.
TBF Leeds had/has The Mekons, Gang of Four, Delta 5 and Soft Cell, so not too shabby.
+ The Bridewell Taxis
I’d love to see an exhaustive list but that seems incredibly threadbare compared to Brummagem. Then again, where isn’t?
The Three Johns
Scritti Politti
Red Lorry Yellow Lorry
The Wedding Present
CUD
LFO
Nightmares on Wax
Age of Chance
Eagulls
Then in the negative column..
The Sisters of Mercy
The Mission
Kaiser Chiefs - Chris Jameson's favourite band
The Parachute Men
Chumbawamba
Alt-J
Not bad for a rugby league town.
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One thing I've noticed is the team spirit. I feel this is the best we've had since 1980/82. We've had some good sides between now and then but the togetherness of this bunch is outstanding. Ref: Bertrand Traore last night.
Indeed Dave, even Bailey was going beserk at the final whistle.
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One thing I've noticed is the team spirit. I feel this is the best we've had since 1980/82. We've had some good sides between now and then but the togetherness of this bunch is outstanding. Ref: Bertrand Traore last night.
Indeed Dave, even Bailey was going beserk at the final whistle.
I loved that clip of Martinez giving Traore a piggy back and them all singing his name with the supporters, just fantastic togetherness. On the march!!
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It smacks of that run to the play offs when we feared no one, found a way to win game after game and the whole club seemed as one.
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It smacks of that run to the play offs when we feared no one, found a way to win game after game and the whole club seemed as one.
Exactly! Momentum feels like everything sometimes. If we beat Forest on Saturday, Newcastle the week after feels pivotal.
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Dramatic finish...free kick to start with was farcical, Martinez moment of madness, credit Watkins he kept his head as did the VAR. To be fair Tony Gale even called it a free out straight away
At times we played lovely stuff. Leicester helped us by playing Vardy who made Danny Ings look like the roadrunner...We played nice stuff 11 v 11 but thought we need a lot earlier subs. Has that feel of the end of DOLs first season where no matter the performance we are winning or getting results. If I'm honest I thought Emery had a nightmare today, crap team selection, Bailey, timing of subs...then Bert crops with the winner out of nowhere....We go again
Martinez 6 - very good until that moment of madness on last play
Young 5 - Barnes was far too sharp for him but kept going, bit of a Kane/Grealish for the red I thought...
Konsa 6 - annoyed me with his passes at snail pace when we needed to lift tempo
Mings 7 - solid again, easy night
Moreno 7 - looks a really good signing, wrong option shooting when through second half though
Ramsey 5 - poor but horribly out of position on right
McGinn 7 - very good first half but tired second
Luiz 8.5 - few mistakes second half but best player on pitch for me
Buendia 7 - quality assist, not suited to his position tonight but nice touches
Watkins 8 - brilliant goal, top defending at end
Bailey 2 - Vichy like conviction, sad seeing a pro like that tonight
Duran...very (very) raw, Bert brilliant goal.
He's been a regular member of a team averaging two points a game.
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One thing I've noticed is the team spirit. I feel this is the best we've had since 1980/82. We've had some good sides between now and then but the togetherness of this bunch is outstanding. Ref: Bertrand Traore last night.
See Konza giving it the full 'David Platt fingers' whilst chasing after Bert
I strongly advise against googling this.
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One thing I've noticed is the team spirit. I feel this is the best we've had since 1980/82. We've had some good sides between now and then but the togetherness of this bunch is outstanding. Ref: Bertrand Traore last night.
See Konza giving it the full 'David Platt fingers' whilst chasing after Bert
I strongly advise against googling this.
(https://i.ibb.co/dj9NmX9/2981.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dj9NmX9)
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Sign Harvey Barnes! Such great pace.
No. Despite his cameo tonight against an old man he is not consistent enough, he’s is good but not great, he’s not quite top international player so not better than likes of Bert and on his day Bailey.
And don’t forget his lack of contribution is part of the reason why Leicester are in serious trouble.
Harvey Barnes is MILES better than Bailey, it's not even close.
Hang on, let me assess this. Bailey plays regularly for a team heading up the table. Barnes plays for a team that's heading for the second division and he has played his part in that. I think answer is clear.
Yes, because that’s how football works. Bloody hell.
I have another argument to get involved in today so I am not defending Bailey anymore. ;)
However we need to get off his back and not get totally over impressed by a bloke who managed to run past a 37 years old and for once shoot straight.
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I have another argument to get involved in today so I am not defending Bailey anymore. ;)
However we need to get off his back and not get totally over impressed by a bloke who managed to run past a 37 years old and for once shoot straight.
He's scored ten goals for a really shit side. Imagine where we'd be if you could add ten goals to either Buendia or Bailey.
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It's not just this season either, I've wanted us to sign Barnes since I first clapped eyes on him, and it actually feels now like it's feasable.
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I was at it again, decrying the Manager at the start of the second half for not doing something about Barnes threat and how Young was struggling, but he made me look a plum again.
What I have noticed over the last few games is that we seem to take the sting out of teams. They have a good go at it in the first half but then seem to run out of ideas and inspiration, it was happening last night even before the red card.
We always give teams opportunities, but throw everything at defending, make our own luck and come out on top. What a marvelous habit to have.
Towards the end last night I felt a genuine excitement that I haven't experienced since the days of MON. We will still lose games, we will go on bad runs, it happens but what we must do when this happens is show patience and we will get the rewards.
Finally, it's clear that Tony Gale shouldn't do West Ham games, he displayed proper balance in his observations and that clapper going all through the game sounded like a chippie at work in the stand.
I was looking at Chris Suttons predictions on the beeb, he yet again predicted us not to win. The other predictor was a young actor and West Ham fan. He predicted us to win and that Villa sucked the life out of West Ham and would do the same to Leicester, with our passing. He said he meant is a compliment and i know exactly what we did, we totally dominate that second half, without creating loads, but largely just nullified Leicester.
Completely agree about Gale, he was good last night, where he was so one eyed a few weeks back.
I am so excited about whats happening.
I thought Gale was pretty poor, he criticised Bailey (i think) for trying a cross into Buendia, as Buendia isn't good in the air, apparently.
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It's not just this season either, I've wanted us to sign Barnes since I first clapped eyes on him, and it actually feels now like it's feasable.
Based on nothing more than a hunch, I can see both him and Maddison ending up at Newcastle this summer.
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I thought Gale was shite to, as ever. He grudgingly had to concede we're a decent side as it's obvious the West Ham game was the only time he's watched us until last night and the evidence was mounting as the game wore on.
My mate also reminded us of an amusing story about him that I'd completely forgotten about. Years ago the old Wolves, Walsall and West Ham (all the w's) striker David Kelly ended up playing a bit in the Sutton Sunday league, and we overheard him talking about Gale in the bar at Holly Lane. If you replaced the 'o' in his first name with an 'i' you'd be able to guess the subject.
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yep I heard Gale about Buendia, do your homework Tony
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It's not just this season either, I've wanted us to sign Barnes since I first clapped eyes on him, and it actually feels now like it's feasable.
I guess the main thing is I'm not really sure what we're going to see from Emery in terms of fromation and personnel once he can start bringing his own players in. Is 4-4-2 his usual preferred formation? At the moment he's getting every last ounce from a small squad, but last night he had Ramsey on one side, Buendia on the other and a shit winger up front with Watkins. If he could have all his preferred players, would it still be 4-4-2, and if so would it be two proper centre forwards up front and two wingers, or one winger and a number ten up front playing off the striker?
Pretty much the default formation in the Premier League is 4-3-3 (or 4-2-3-1) with a number 9 and two wider forwards up front, a number 8 and 6 in midfield, etc. Emery has confused me with his new fangled ways. It shouldn't work, but it does!
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It's not just this season either, I've wanted us to sign Barnes since I first clapped eyes on him, and it actually feels now like it's feasable.
I guess the main thing is I'm not really sure what we're going to see from Emery in terms of fromation and personnel once he can start bringing his own players in. Is 4-4-2 his usual preferred formation? At the moment he's getting every last ounce from a small squad, but last night he had Ramsey on one side, Buendia on the other and a shit winger up front with Watkins. If he could have all his preferred players, would it still be 4-4-2, and if so would it be two proper centre forwards up front and two wingers, or one winger and a number ten up front playing off the striker?
Pretty much the default formation in the Premier League is 4-3-3 (or 4-2-3-1) with a number 9 and two wider forwards up front, a number 8 and 6 in midfield, etc. Emery has confused me with his new fangled ways. It shouldn't work, but it does!
I think he's just capable of adapting the system to work to the strengths of his resources, but draws the line at people that can't run, hence Ings being cleared off and Dendonker struggling to get a look in.
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It's not just this season either, I've wanted us to sign Barnes since I first clapped eyes on him, and it actually feels now like it's feasable.
I agree he looked a tremendous talent when on loan at the bitters.
Even though we looked a bit leggy, not surprising after a lot of chasing against Chelsea, i though we dominated the game. Games like this hinge on key moments such as their CH missing a free header and Emi M making a great save off the Mings deflection but overall it would of been a travesty if we had not gained 3 pts
Martinez - great stop from Mings and good off his line a few times - bit of a head rush at the end but he would of saved the pen anyway :)
Young - skinned for the goal but much better 2nd half - very worldly wise to draw the 2nd yellow.
Konsa - thought he read the game well but still looks like he is shitting himself when he has the ball
Mings - Imperious
Moreno - has slipped effortlessly into the team - combined really well down the line
Luis - assured and looks like he glides over the pitch
McGinn - much prefer him in the more forward roles but was adequate in temp position again
Bailey - Hugged the line well and draws at least 2 players towards him. Needs to release a little bit quicker and have a "give and go" down the line
Ramsey - thought it was not a great effort from him - no picking up and driving with the ball which is really his thing
Buendia - Has started to cut out the screaming for a foul histrionics and now popping up all over - superb vision and incredible first time pass for Watkins goal
Watkins - tireless workrate as usual. I actually thought he had over cooked it when through but drew the keeper and slotted brilliantly. Superb defensive work at the end won us the game as much as the Traore thunderbolt.
Subs
Chambers - adequate as usual
Duran - love his enthusiasm and he will score before the end of the season
Digne - smooth change over with Moreno
Traore - We always knew there was magic in them feet - love him - the epitome of cool dude
Playing out from the back - i have gone from clenching my arsehole each time we pass it to actually relaxing and enjoying the dominance. The back and forth then the quick ball into Buendia / Luiz is a joy to see how we carve teams open.
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I would only counter that Ramsey, who didn't have his best game, worked like a bastard off the ball.
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Mings - Imperious
Apart from the part where he fucked around with the ball too long thinking he was Maldini which very nearly lead to a good chance for them
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i think Leicester will stay up. their squad is strong on paper and with the right appointment they should be able to get enough points to finish above at least 3 other teams. in the medium term their issue is around money and improvement and how this matches with their fans expectations who have become accustomed to fighting for top 4 and an FA cup win.
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The crisp munchers were all moaning about a handball in the build up to our first goal, I couldn't see anything from where I was sat, did they have a point?
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Nah Buendia controlled beautifully it with his chest/shoulder, then his pass was quality.
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The crisp munchers were all moaning about a handball in the build up to our first goal, I couldn't see anything from where I was sat, did they have a point?
It did look like handball to me but I've only seen it from one angle in the Sky highlights/clips posted here. I'm sure VAR got it right though.
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In fairness he caught the ball, spun it on one finger like you see basketball players do, then he made the pass.
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The crisp munchers were all moaning about a handball in the build up to our first goal, I couldn't see anything from where I was sat, did they have a point?
Were they? Didn't notice it. Ah diddums. 1-2. Cheers ducks!
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The crisp munchers were all moaning about a handball in the build up to our first goal, I couldn't see anything from where I was sat, did they have a point?
it was right in front of the ref and I think he did that exaggerated shoulder upper chest play of the ball. So no I don’t think it was handball.
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WM were convinced it was a handball by Buendia that var would be checking. They seemed a bit surprised to find out it was for a possible offside.
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In fairness he caught the ball, spun it on one finger like you see basketball players do, then he made the pass.
Whilst that was ok I thought doing the through the leg dribble may have got ref's attention but no harm done.
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I reckon that ref was on mushrooms or something, he saw a corner that never was which should have led to Lurch scoring for them early on, the decision reversal for the free kick in injury time that led to the 'penalty' award, then the penalty itself were shockers.
And on that decision reversal, he seemed to change his mind after listening on his mike. Now call my cynical but I suspect someone at Stockley Park stuck their oar in, which is absolutely not supposed to happen.
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I reckon that ref was on mushrooms or something, he saw a corner that never was which should have led to Lurch scoring for them early on, the decision reversal for the free kick in injury time that led to the 'penalty' award, then the penalty itself were shockers.
And on that decision reversal, he seemed to change his mind after listening on his mike. Now call my cynical but I suspect someone at Stockley Park stuck their oar in, which is absolutely not supposed to happen.
I thought that was the point of VAR to say have a look at this because you have made an extremely bat shit crazy decision.
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I reckon that ref was on mushrooms or something, he saw a corner that never was which should have led to Lurch scoring for them early on, the decision reversal for the free kick in injury time that led to the 'penalty' award, then the penalty itself were shockers.
And on that decision reversal, he seemed to change his mind after listening on his mike. Now call my cynical but I suspect someone at Stockley Park stuck their oar in, which is absolutely not supposed to happen.
I thought that was the point of VAR to say have a look at this because you have made an extremely bat shit crazy decision.
Only on key decisions on pens or dangerous fouls though, they're supposed to keeping away from the mundane stuff so we don't end up with 3 1/2 hour long games. And it didn't look like an obvious foul on the Leicester player, unlike the following penalty decision.
I'd also question where this 'eagle eye' was when the ref awarded that corner they nearly scored from early doors.
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Goals, red card incidents, penalty box incidents. I believe that's VAR's purview.
It perhaps wasn't the first time a fourth official might have suggested the ref might want to have a rethink, though.
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i thought somebody said a handball on the line in the melee of it all , so bizarre
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I'd also question where this 'eagle eye' was when the ref awarded that corner they nearly scored from early doors.
I think if Souttar had scored, the goal would not have stood. After all he clearly awarded himself a corner.
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I reckon that ref was on mushrooms or something, he saw a corner that never was which should have led to Lurch scoring for them early on, the decision reversal for the free kick in injury time that led to the 'penalty' award, then the penalty itself were shockers.
And on that decision reversal, he seemed to change his mind after listening on his mike. Now call my cynical but I suspect someone at Stockley Park stuck their oar in, which is absolutely not supposed to happen.
I thought that was the point of VAR to say have a look at this because you have made an extremely bat shit crazy decision.
Only on key decisions on pens or dangerous fouls though, they're supposed to keeping away from the mundane stuff so we don't end up with 3 1/2 hour long games. And it didn't look like an obvious foul on the Leicester player, unlike the following penalty decision.
I'd also question where this 'eagle eye' was when the ref awarded that corner they nearly scored from early doors.
Sorry I was thinking the penalty not the free kick.
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And on that decision reversal, he seemed to change his mind after listening on his mike. Now call my cynical but I suspect someone at Stockley Park stuck their oar in, which is absolutely not supposed to happen.
I think that was the linesman to be honest.
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i thought somebody said a handball on the line in the melee of it all , so bizarre
I think that's why the ref gave the penalty, he thought Watkins had punched it away.
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And on that decision reversal, he seemed to change his mind after listening on his mike. Now call my cynical but I suspect someone at Stockley Park stuck their oar in, which is absolutely not supposed to happen.
I think that was the linesman to be honest.
Yes, well he's a twat as well because I couldn't see what he was supposed to have seen that would be enough to have his colleague change his mind.
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He'd have sent Watkins off if he thought it was handball. Refs are wired to their assistants so probably got the call from him as he thought he'd barged Daka out of the way
The right decision got made. We got three points. No conspiracies to see here
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He'd have sent Watkins off if he thought it was handball. Refs are wired to their assistants so probably got the call from him as he thought he'd barged Daka out of the way
The right decision got made. We got three points. No conspiracies to see here
I was talking about the free kick that led upto the penalty decision. It was given to us initially until the ref spoke on his earpiece then gave it the other way.
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He'd have sent Watkins off if he thought it was handball. Refs are wired to their assistants so probably got the call from him as he thought he'd barged Daka out of the way
The right decision got made. We got three points. No conspiracies to see here
The ref did send Ollie off when he first awarded the phantom penalty to Leicester. He waved his red card. If VAR didn't intervene it would have been one of the worst penalties given in an era of terrible decisions. I said at the time that I couldn't understand what he thought he saw. If he thought Ollie punched the ball out of play then the resulting decisions make sense. A trip to specsavers should be on his agenda.
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My voice has barely recovered from Chelsea and it got an absolute battering last night! Head was pounding walking back to the car, absolutely glorious!
I felt we controlled the game from start to finish. That's doesn't mean it was the slickest of displays, as despite the endless possession and territorial dominance that we had- even when they had XI- we were a bit too slow in pressing the advantage. The delivery from the right was poor, although Moreno, pushed so high, really shackled Maddison and caused problems hitting the box.
I felt the first goal was so well executed, as we'd waited and waited and waited, moving the ball around, for the opportune time where their press actually came to meet us and Buendia was isolated. Pass, pass, goal. Just brilliantly executed and so smart.
We switch off for the free header, but Ollie isn't on the pitch who is one of the man markers and JJ doesn't react, getting blocked. They have a spawny deflection that Emi does well with and full credit for the goal. The take and finish was excellent.
We had to be very patient 2nd half, as they got progressively deeper and with the sending off, more compact still. What a finish from Bertie! Absolute scenes and limbs as they say.
Much the better side. Squad needs to be bigger though, we lack options and we'll need to be freshening up the side given we look like we might be playing mid-week a lot next year.
Good sides persevere and find a way to win. That is what we're doing.
Edit: I want to add how funny/dominant it was to hold a defensive line 20 yards inside your opponents half! A right flex that.
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Is somebody that was there able to confirm, from the evidence of their own eyes, the colour of the card flashed at Watkins, please?
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The card the ref put back into his pocket after he changed the decision was yellow.
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The card the ref put back into his pocket after he changed the decision was yellow.
It was, you're right.
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We switch off for the free header, but Ollie isn't on the pitch who is one of the man markers and JJ doesn't react, getting blocked. They have a spawny deflection that Emi does well with and full credit for the goal. The take and finish was excellent.
Konsa was the one marking him and allowed him to run around the back of the bunch with Konsa running into it. Not sure if that was "planned" by them but is the type of set piece movement and planning our Rick Wakeman should be working out how to counter / implement for us.
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We switch off for the free header, but Ollie isn't on the pitch who is one of the man markers and JJ doesn't react, getting blocked. They have a spawny deflection that Emi does well with and full credit for the goal. The take and finish was excellent.
Konsa was the one marking him and allowed him to run around the back of the bunch with Konsa running into it. Not sure if that was "planned" by them but is the type of set piece movement and planning our Rick Wakeman should be working out how to counter / implement for us.
To be fair I thought that was a very good routine executed at speed so Konsa really didn't have any time to avoid the block.
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We switch off for the free header, but Ollie isn't on the pitch who is one of the man markers and JJ doesn't react, getting blocked. They have a spawny deflection that Emi does well with and full credit for the goal. The take and finish was excellent.
Konsa was the one marking him and allowed him to run around the back of the bunch with Konsa running into it. Not sure if that was "planned" by them but is the type of set piece movement and planning our Rick Wakeman should be working out how to counter / implement for us.
It was similar to the one we conceded against Man City, with an opposition player just completely left alone who then runs a fair distance for a free header. That Leicester player was the tallest person on the pitch, and he's not exactly nimble so surely he should have been quite easy to pick up.
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Good result. Cannot believe we are currently sat in 7th. I read a spattering of national media comments earlier & one in particular stood out from the Daily Heil from some joker called Tom Collossime or something, & you could practically taste the tears from the garbage he wrote down. Which makes this rocket powered rise from the Gerrard debacle to now, all the more satisfying... Can it last? Who knows... I am just enjoying 'the moment', where some of my mates aren't ripping the shit out of me... 😂
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WM were convinced it was a handball by Buendia that var would be checking. They seemed a bit surprised to find out it was for a possible offside.
Wilford the nose.Therefore his opinion is redundant.
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WM were convinced it was a handball by Buendia that var would be checking. They seemed a bit surprised to find out it was for a possible offside.
Wilford the nose.Therefore his opinion is redundant.
Tommo doesn't do much to make you think he's not from around these parts, either.
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I watched the extended highlights on Sky. Talk about making a silk purse out of a sows ear the edit makes it look like Leicester had far the better of Villa and yet every statistic tells a very different story.
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I watched the extended highlights on Sky. Talk about making a silk purse out of a sows ear the edit makes it look like Leicester had far the better of Villa and yet every statistic tells a very different story.
Leicester were really poor. They reminded me of what we were like under someone like Lambert. Confidence obviously very low and it told from their team selection. Tactically they were a shambles, reminded me of Moyes' tactics against us recently. Let our CBs have uncontested possession with a half hearted press from a forward whose legs are gone. Stand off the likes of Luiz constantly in midfield to do as he liked. Maddison kept coming in field from his posting on the right where Moreno had a field day at times. The only tactic they had, which did work well to be fair, was the cross field ball to Barnes. I know Young struggled but I doubt Cash would have been much better.
I really don't think we played all that well last night as a result. Leicester were very much there for the taking. Granted Barnes scored a cracker when we were completely on top but it took us an awful long time to make the extra man count. It took a dreadful mistake from Ndidi and Traore thankfully did the rest. Even at that we made a bit of a mess of seeing it out but thankfully Watkins kept his head.
Think we can play a lot better against Forest.
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The card the ref put back into his pocket after he changed the decision was yellow.
It was, you're right.
Watched it in a pub and we were convinced the ref flashed a red. However I've just watched sky highlights and it was definitely a yellow. Watkins was pushed in the back and fell over. Their player fell forward and it was his hand that knocked the ball out. So at least var did get this one spot on. For Ollie's goal it does look suspiciously like hand ball by Buendia but its really hard to tell for sure. We've been on the wrong end of some shocking decisions by var so I'm happy to take it and move on. Also I would take Harvey Barnes in a heartbeat. He's electric when they get him in the right place with the ball which is bearing down on a full back with space to attack. Unai would have that boy playing regularly England within months.
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It's the first time I've been to King Power. Feels a bit small doesn't it? That drum is horrific, I'd be gutted if we ever go down that route. I thought it was interesting their main support is placed next to the away fans rather than at an end. Does that happen often? Not sure what the thinking is there but in fairness there was a spell when they created quite a bit of noise.
UTFV.
There was some brilliant old school back and forth chanting between the 2 sets of supporters last night that came over very clearly on the telly.
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At least they’ve stopped giving out the plastic clapper things
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At least they’ve stopped giving out the plastic clapper things
Didn't we once refuse to allow them at a game against them? Maybe I'm imagining things.
I haven't heard a single peep from Leicester supporting mates since our win. It's wonderful.
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Clappers, music after a goal, a drum. All the hallmarks of a no mark shit team.
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The card the ref put back into his pocket after he changed the decision was yellow.
It was, you're right.
Watched it in a pub and we were convinced the ref flashed a red. However I've just watched sky highlights and it was definitely a yellow. Watkins was pushed in the back and fell over. Their player fell forward and it was his hand that knocked the ball out. So at least var did get this one spot on. For Ollie's goal it does look suspiciously like hand ball by Buendia but its really hard to tell for sure. We've been on the wrong end of some shocking decisions by var so I'm happy to take it and move on. Also I would take Harvey Barnes in a heartbeat. He's electric when they get him in the right place with the ball which is bearing down on a full back with space to attack. Unai would have that boy playing regularly England within months.
Pretty sure a foul of any kind by the "assisting" player would have been checked for and it was passed as ok. It was just the angle of the camera, player and ball that made it look like he used his hand when he just angled his chest.
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Clappers, music after a goal, a drum. All the hallmarks of a no mark shit team.
This.
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Vicki Sparks on MOTD commentary mentioned Buendia's "handball" four times while describing the build-up to the first goal, making it conclusively sound like we'd got away with it. The reverse angle clearly shows Buendia's chest leaning into the ball.
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I don't know if the chant of the season has been mentioned. There was a Virgin Media outage, turnstiles opened late, no food or drink on sale.
"You're going down with your Wifi"
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Vicki Sparks on MOTD commentary mentioned Buendia's "handball" four times while describing the build-up to the first goal, making it conclusively sound like we'd got away with it. The reverse angle clearly shows Buendia's chest leaning into the ball.
She's terrible, god knows who decided that she had a voice for commentary.
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Clappers, music after a goal, a drum. All the hallmarks of a no mark shit team.
It was a funny atmosphere at first. Really loud music right up till KO made it impossible to build any atmosphere before the game. Then the drum kicked in straight away, although I couldn't tell what it was at first as it was just incoherent noise (not really accompanied by any singing). I honestly thought it was interference from the speakers for a while. I think it put the Villa fans off a bit - it took us a while to get into our stride.
With no food or drink being available (supposedly because their wifi was down), it all made for a really odd start to the game.
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Clappers, music after a goal, a drum. All the hallmarks of a no mark shit team.
It was a funny atmosphere at first. Really loud music right up till KO made it impossible to build any atmosphere before the game. Then the drum kicked in straight away, although I couldn't tell what it was at first as it was just incoherent noise (not really accompanied by any singing). I honestly thought it was interference from the speakers for a while. I think it put the Villa fans off a bit - it took us a while to get into our stride.
With no food or drink being available (supposedly because their wifi was down), it all made for a really odd start to the game.
I was in one of the lounges thanks to a Leicester mate, and it was chaos in there. They were still serving drinks but just writing down orders, but not who had ordered them. Then at half time the staff were wandering round with a huge pile of post it notes asking who'd had three lagers or whatever.
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I'd just say "Three lagers? Me!" Boots filled.
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The wandering round was for the purpose of trying to collect payment which they had been unable to take because of no wifi!
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Ah right.