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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Legion on April 25, 2014, 12:22:18 PM
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This is the only thing I have to look forward to regarding the Villa these days and even then I am often disappointed.
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Is it still Macron next year?
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Final year I think.
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Final year I think.
yep, it was an initial three year agreement. This years home kit was fine except the collar which I didn't like at all. I think given the season I fell out of love with what this years kits have represented, so hoping for a number of new and exciting things to look forward to in the summer.
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It'd be nice if our new owners (if it happens) buy out Macron's deal and give them the boot.
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Final year I think.
yep, it was an initial three year agreement. This years home kit was fine except the collar which I didn't like at all. I think given the season I fell out of love with what this years kits have represented, so hoping for a number of new and exciting things to look forward to in the summer.
Four years mate.
http://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/newsitem=1635/title=aston+villa+secure+new+%A315+million+kit+deal+with+macron
I'm assuming the new kit will be claret body & blue sleeves again.
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I'll say what I say most years... do it earlier! If it was a week earlier it gives people another week to actually wear a shirt they buy and also avoids a clash with the World Cup.
It's an improvement on when Nike released the strip just before Christmas, I suppose.
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They do it to coincide with Fathers Day to get a few families in for meals and drinks and hopefully dad will get bought a shirt and then the kids will have to have shirts too.
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Oh, ok. That makes sense I suppose.
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Macron are decent, this season's home was a big improvement on last season's. I also like the fact we get exclusive templates, which wouldn't be the case with Adidas/Nike/Puma.
I would like them to do something different with the design though.
http://i2.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article4305994.ece/alternates/s465a/villa-99-00.jpg
OR:
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That's nice, but think it might be better if the sponsor was in plain white writing.
Oh and I'd only be happy if that was the away shirt.
Home shirt must have claret shirt with blue sleeves (preferably white shorts and blue socks too).
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Final year I think.
yep, it was an initial three year agreement. This years home kit was fine except the collar which I didn't like at all. I think given the season I fell out of love with what this years kits have represented, so hoping for a number of new and exciting things to look forward to in the summer.
Four years mate.
http://fcbusiness.co.uk/news/article/newsitem=1635/title=aston+villa+secure+new+%A315+million+kit+deal+with+macron
I'm assuming the new kit will be claret body & blue sleeves again.
ok, thanks. I thought it was 3 years. I suppose it could be 3 plus a one year option. Yes, my guess is claret body, blue sleeves also.
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It'd be nice if our new owners (if it happens) buy out Macron's deal and give them the boot.
Yeah, let's piss money away for no good reason.
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1992-93 bootlace with blue ring around neck please.
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That's nice, but think it might be better if the sponsor was in plain white writing.
Yeah it's admittedly shit cos I did it on MS Paint. It would have been white otherwise.
Home shirt must have claret shirt with blue sleeves (preferably white shorts and blue socks too).
I liked the black socks kit we had for Nike's last season.
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Home - I would like just a traditional shirt , claret body blue sleeves
Away - white shirt with a Claret and blue trim on the collar and cuffs....
UTV
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It'd be nice if our new owners (if it happens) buy out Macron's deal and give them the boot.
Yeah, let's piss money away for no good reason.
There is good reason. It would mean ridding the club of the cheapest, tackiest kit supplier this club has ever had.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
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I thought that was Henson? So cheap and tacky they couldn't afford to put a badge on the shirts.
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A black away will do me. We all know the home will be pretty much the same, last year with a collar this year without £46 please...
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I don't mind this season's kits to much.
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Macron are making next seasons kit
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It'd be nice if our new owners (if it happens) buy out Macron's deal and give them the boot.
Yeah, let's piss money away for no good reason.
There is good reason. It would mean ridding the club of the cheapest, tackiest kit supplier this club has ever had.
They've given us more money than any kit supplier we've ever had before. Cheap how, exactly?
I know you were willing to give them a chance though... that's why you started slagging the shirts off before they'd even been released. Are you still obsessing that we should get Nike back, ignoring the fact that that you would hardly have known Villa existed to look at their website and that they cost us millions of pounds by not releasing the strip until the middle of winter?
Macron have given us more money than any one else. They've released the kits on time unlike the last lot that you loved so much. They've respected the club's history by releasing a proper kit with claret shirts and blue sleeves, unlike Diadora, Reebok, Asics, Hummel, Henson and Le Coq Sportif.
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I thought that was Henson? So cheap and tacky they couldn't afford to put a badge on the shirts.
Yeah that was bizarre. Still better than Macron though.
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I thought that was Henson? So cheap and tacky they couldn't afford to put a badge on the shirts.
Yeah that was bizarre. Still better than Macron though.
Don't talk nonsense.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
One of the first rumours linked with the takeover was a complete rebranding of the club. You may just get your wish, Mr H.
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I don't mind this season's kits to much.
I liked the away one at first but not so sure on it now. Will still buy for a fiver in SportsDirect though.
Home one is quality.
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It'd be nice if our new owners (if it happens) buy out Macron's deal and give them the boot.
Yeah, let's piss money away for no good reason.
There is good reason. It would mean ridding the club of the cheapest, tackiest kit supplier this club has ever had.
They've given us more money than any kit supplier we've ever had before. Cheap how, exactly?
I know you were willing to give them a chance though... that's why you started slagging the shirts off before they'd even been released. Are you still obsessing that we should get Nike back, ignoring the fact that that you would hardly have known Villa existed to look at their website and that they cost us millions of pounds by not releasing the strip until the middle of winter?
Macron have given us more money than any one else. They've released the kits on time unlike the last lot that you loved so much. They've respected the club's history by releasing a proper kit with claret shirts and blue sleeves, unlike Diadora, Reebok, Asics, Hummel, Henson and Le Coq Sportif.
I don't care how much cash Macron give us, their products are still absolute gash only fit for lower league and non league clubs.
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Sorry, but your opinion is irrelevant as you had already decided you weren't going to like them before they were released. Are Napoli lower league or non-league?
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Sorry, but your opinion is irrelevant as you had already decided you weren't going to like them before they were released. Are Napoli lower league or non-league?
Macron have a reputation for creating cheap, crap kits.
I supposed it could be argued it mirrored Lerner's downgrading of the club over all. Sell your best players and replace them with shit ones. Say bye bye to Nike and welcome Macron with open arms and pretend they're giving us the biggest deal in our history to con the fans into thinking we're onto something good. I'm guessing they felt they fooled so many fans with the 'young and hungry' lie they could fool them with the 'biggest shirt deal in our history' bullshit as well.
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How can you pretend something that's true?
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Are you saying it's not the biggest shirt deal in our history? Which one was worth more?
Please can you answer, do you think that Nike's failure to get the kits out before Winter had started was acceptable?
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Sorry, but your opinion is irrelevant as you had already decided you weren't going to like them before they were released. Are Napoli lower league or non-league?
Macron have a reputation for creating cheap, crap kits.
I supposed it could be argued it mirrored Lerner's downgrading of the club over all. Sell your best players and replace them with shit ones. Say bye bye to Nike and welcome Macron with open arms and pretend they're giving us the biggest deal in our history to con the fans into thinking we're onto something good. I'm guessing they felt they fooled so many fans with the 'young and hungry' lie they could fool them with the 'biggest shirt deal in our history' bullshit as well.
Is that why the Macron deal is the biggest most expensive deal we have had. Why would you turn down the company who will give you the most money
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I still wear my blue AST shirt on a hot day, it's a real head turner put it that way.
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Indeed. Anyway, Marshall... you got any designs for us yet?
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I still wear my blue AST shirt on a hot day, it's a real head turner put it that way.
You could maybe try wearing deodorant to avoid that effect.
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How can you pretend something that's true?
So someone can start a row for the umteepth time?
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Indeed. Anyway, Marshall... you got any designs for us yet?
Not really, It would help if some leaked news got out like last season
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Sorry, but your opinion is irrelevant as you had already decided you weren't going to like them before they were released. Are Napoli lower league or non-league?
Macron have a reputation for creating cheap, crap kits.
I supposed it could be argued it mirrored Lerner's downgrading of the club over all. Sell your best players and replace them with shit ones. Say bye bye to Nike and welcome Macron with open arms and pretend they're giving us the biggest deal in our history to con the fans into thinking we're onto something good. I'm guessing they felt they fooled so many fans with the 'young and hungry' lie they could fool them with the 'biggest shirt deal in our history' bullshit as well.
Is that why the Macron deal is the biggest most expensive deal we have had. Why would you turn down the company who will give you the most money
Because their products are shit?
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Are you saying it's not the biggest shirt deal in our history? Which one was worth more?
Please can you answer, do you think that Nike's failure to get the kits out before Winter had started was acceptable?
Whenever you're ready.
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How can you pretend something that's true?
So someone can start a row for the umteepth time?
Oh stop being so sanctimonious, Clamps. It's not like you've never been involved in the odd row or a thousand on here.
And it's a discussion by the way. Nothing more.
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I love that picture of it on the poster... Plain, no sponsor but no badge either on the negative side. Great design though, well done to all involved. Can't wait for the launch.
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I still wear my blue AST shirt on a hot day, it's a real head turner put it that way.
You could maybe try wearing deodorant to avoid that effect.
Haha, i'm about that Paco Rabanne one Million life 8)
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I think the poster was made by the same person that designed our badge. It's no co-incidence that the poster comes out the week Randy was in town.
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I love that picture of it on the poster... Plain, no sponsor but no badge either on the negative side. Great design though, well done to all involved. Can't wait for the launch.
I remember a couple of years ago when Tatron were announced as our suppliers they posted a video on the OS where they waxed lyrical about Villa's history and said they would base their new kits on some of Villa's most iconic shirts from the past. We were all slightly relieved and a little bit excited, only to be completely let down when they revealed the kits and it looked like they were designed by a short sighted chimpanzee let loose with a paint brush and a needle and thread.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
I'm certain that it will be the new owner's first priority.
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I think the poster was made by the same person that designed our badge. It's no co-incidence that the poster comes out the week Randy was in town.
I doubt that very much. He hasn't been to a game on nearly 18 months so I doubt if he'd be bothered to knock up a poster for a kit launch that he won't bother attending.
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I love that picture of it on the poster... Plain, no sponsor but no badge either on the negative side. Great design though, well done to all involved. Can't wait for the launch.
I remember a couple of years ago when Tatron were announced as our suppliers they posted a video on the OS where they waxed lyrical about Villa's history and said they would base their new kits on some of Villa's most iconic shirts from the past. We were all slightly relieved and a little bit excited, only to be completely let down when they revealed the kits and it looked like they were designed by a short sighted chimpanzee let loose with a paint brush and a needle and thread.
And yet... over 70% of Villa fans on this site like them.
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=49765.msg2338795#msg2338795
If you weren't such a Nike fanboy, maybe you'd be willing to give them a chance too.
The kit is based on our famous kits of the past. It has a claret body and blue sleeves.
It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
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We should add that to our honours list...
2013/14 shirts stitched together by adults (with no sense of style)
Makes you proud!
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I've always found something very useful when seeing an item of clothing I don't like, I don't buy it.
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We should add that to our honours list...
2013/14 shirts stitched together by adults (with no sense of style)
Makes you proud!
And yet over 70% of our fans like them.
So what should the criteria for deciding who designs our shirts be?
(i) They give us the most money.
(ii) They release the kits on time and don't cost the club millions in lost revenue.
(iii) They are produced ethically.
(iv) They are popular, gaining approval of over 70% of Villa fans on a message board.
(v) Whether Saunders Heroes, who refuses to like anything that hasn't had a swoosh placed on it by teeny, underpaid hands, likes it.
Which criteria do you think is most significant?
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Are you saying it's not the biggest shirt deal in our history? Which one was worth more?
Please can you answer, do you think that Nike's failure to get the kits out before Winter had started was acceptable?
Any second now...
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I've always found something very useful when seeing an item of clothing I don't like, I don't buy it.
I haven't bought a Villa shirt since I was a kid, but I still want to see our players in a shirt that's fit for a club as great as ours. Instead we get a supplier that known for mainly supplying lower league and non league clubs.
They must be the only Italian clothing company without a sense of style.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
One of the first rumours linked with the takeover was a complete rebranding of the club. You may just get your wish, Mr H.
I think we should either:
- Keep it but remove the star
- Go back to the original version of the current crest
- Have the lion embroidered onto the shirt in a similar way Spurs have with their cockerel with 'prepared' under it
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
One of the first rumours linked with the takeover was a complete rebranding of the club. You may just get your wish, Mr H.
I think we should either:
- Keep it but remove the star
- Go back to the original version of the current crest
- Have the lion embroidered onto the shirt in a similar way Spurs have with their cockerel with 'prepared' under it
Yeah I'd like to see a stripped down version of the club badge. No crest, just the rampant lion with 'prepared' written underneath.
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And yet... over 70% of Villa fans on this site like them.
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=49765.msg2338795#msg2338795
If you weren't such a Nike fanboy, maybe you'd be willing to give them a chance too.
The kit is based on our famous kits of the past. It has a claret body and blue sleeves.
It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
Agree with it all. I'd take Macron over Nike, though they do have their faults.
Nike are fucking shit.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
One of the first rumours linked with the takeover was a complete rebranding of the club. You may just get your wish, Mr H.
I think we should either:
- Keep it but remove the star
- Go back to the original version of the current crest
- Have the lion embroidered onto the shirt in a similar way Spurs have with their cockerel with 'prepared' under it
Yeah I'd like to see a stripped down version of the club badge. No crest, just the rampant lion with 'prepared' written underneath.
If that was done right it would be fantastic.
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I've always found something very useful when seeing an item of clothing I don't like, I don't buy it.
I haven't bought a Villa shirt since I was a kid, but I still want to see our players in a shirt that's fit for a club as great as ours. Instead we get a supplier that known for mainly supplying lower league and non league clubs.
They must be the only Italian clothing company without a sense of style.
More than 70% of our fans think they are sufficiently stylish. It is always going to be impossible to please every single fan, especially a Nike fanboy who had made his mind up before seeing the strip, but I'd say over 70% is a pretty good approval rate.
Virtually every company has far more lower-league than top-flight clients. Even including your "we'll have the strips released next month, honest" mates, Nike. This is because there are far more lower-league than top flight clubs. Macron do have a large number of top-flight clubs though including Napoli, Lazio, Sporting Lisbon and Monaco.
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Yeah I'd like to see a stripped down version of the club badge. No crest, just the rampant lion with 'prepared' written underneath.
It would look a lot less 'busy'. One of the reasons I don't like our current one. I don't like the star either.
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I will agree that I'm not a huge fan of the new badge. Mainly because it doesn't say "Aston Villa" on it.
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I've always found something very useful when seeing an item of clothing I don't like, I don't buy it.
I haven't bought a Villa shirt since I was a kid, but I still want to see our players in a shirt that's fit for a club as great as ours. Instead we get a supplier that known for mainly supplying lower league and non league clubs.
They must be the only Italian clothing company without a sense of style.
Style? Its sportswear, it all looks shit.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
One of the first rumours linked with the takeover was a complete rebranding of the club. You may just get your wish, Mr H.
I think we should either:
- Keep it but remove the star
- Go back to the original version of the current crest
- Have the lion embroidered onto the shirt in a similar way Spurs have with their cockerel with 'prepared' under it
Yeah I'd like to see a stripped down version of the club badge. No crest, just the rampant lion with 'prepared' written underneath.
If that was done right it would be fantastic.
We should confiscate Randy's pencils and felt tip pens.
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It's not who makes the shirts that matters it's the players who wear them.
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Are you saying it's not the biggest shirt deal in our history? Which one was worth more?
Please can you answer, do you think that Nike's failure to get the kits out before Winter had started was acceptable?
Any second now...
I'll answer it if you want.
It is the most lucrative deal the club has had.
It was pretty shoddy that the last Nike kit wasn't available for so long You can't excuse those things.
As a fan though, and although I personally haven't bought one for myself this season, the quality of my sons two shirt (last two home shirts) and my Dad's couple have been of poor quality compared to Macrons direct competitors products.
I accept the line about the labour costs too, but of course that is going to have a bearing on the quality of materials used, especially if you intend to keep the mark-up on the retail price in line with competitors.
Of that 70% that is being quoted, how many do you think just like it because it's a Villa shirt and it's the latest one, because lets be honest that's why the majority of people buy it.
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It's not who makes the shirts that matters it's the players who wear them.
Well good luck with that one.
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If Randy sells up, can we get rid of our shit badge?
One of the first rumours linked with the takeover was a complete rebranding of the club. You may just get your wish, Mr H.
I think we should either:
- Keep it but remove the star
- Go back to the original version of the current crest
- Have the lion embroidered onto the shirt in a similar way Spurs have with their cockerel with 'prepared' under it
Yeah I'd like to see a stripped down version of the club badge. No crest, just the rampant lion with 'prepared' written underneath.
If that was done right it would be fantastic.
I'd like to stop pissing about with the badge.
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It's not who makes the shirts that matters it's the players who wear them.
Well good luck with that one.
Personally I don't care if it's Macron, Nike, Adidas or Primark who makes the kit. It's the players that wear it that we should be more concerned with.
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The only thing I don't like about this home shirt is the small collar at the back. Other than that it's ok.
As for Nike, the cock up where they didn't supply them until November was just embarrassing for such a world renowned clothing company and for us.
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I bought the purple Macron polo shirt and it is great....that's all :)
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I found the quality of the Nike training wear and polo shirts to be particularly bad.
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Are you saying it's not the biggest shirt deal in our history? Which one was worth more?
Please can you answer, do you think that Nike's failure to get the kits out before Winter had started was acceptable?
Any second now...
I'll answer it if you want.
It is the most lucrative deal the club has had.
It was pretty shoddy that the last Nike kit wasn't available for so long You can't excuse those things.
As a fan though, and although I personally haven't bought one for myself this season, the quality of my sons two shirt (last two home shirts) and my Dad's couple have been of poor quality compared to Macrons direct competitors products.
I accept the line about the labour costs too, but of course that is going to have a bearing on the quality of materials used, especially if you intend to keep the mark-up on the retail price in line with competitors.
Of that 70% that is being quoted, how many do you think just like it because it's a Villa shirt and it's the latest one, because lets be honest that's why the majority of people buy it.
True but some, well one at least, will just vote against anything the club does!
Thanks for a more reasoned response than SH's "anything I don't like must be shit" posts on every subject.
When you say the quality wasn't good what was wrong with them? Did they fall apart in the wash? Did you write to the club, hopefully any problems can be (ahem) ironed out before next year?
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What do you all think is the 'proper' badge?
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What do you all think is the 'proper' badge?
Any of them that actually have the words Aston Villa on
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The only thing I don't like about this home shirt is the small collar at the back. Other than that it's ok.
As for Nike, the cock up where they didn't supply them until November was just embarrassing for such a world renowned clothing company and for us.
I know the general feeling is that Nike fucked up, but i do wonder what part the club played in it all. It isn't like things have gone swimmingly the last few years at any level of the club. No basis for accusation other than it wouldn't surprise me to hear we fucked up a little ourselves
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What do you all think is the 'proper' badge?
I don't really regard any as the "proper" badge but I prefer the round one to the cresty ones. As a Brummie-Scot I preferred it when the lion looked more Caledonian and less chubby too.
I do wonder if part of the reason the badge was changed was to do with copyright? I know that, for instance, both Manchester clubs have removed the city crest from their badges so they can copyright the image and clamp down on copies and imitations. It maybe that we had to change ours so that it is sufficiently different from the Scottish Lion Rampant to be copyrighted?
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Take your pick:
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What do you all think is the 'proper' badge?
Crayons at the ready...
Whilst I agree that the players who wear the shirt are more important than the shirt itself, it does send a message out if you have a shit kit. We all think it so players must do too. Cheap kit, made by a supplier more associated with lower leagues says "small time". A great kit made by a top brand says "we want the best of everything and are coveted by premium companies".
The message is very important.
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I don't mind who makes the kit as long as the Villa get the best deal available.
I have to say though that the 2 Macron shirts I've bought for my lad have been dreadful quality.
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What do you all think is the 'proper' badge?
The proper badge is just the rampant lion and the motto. Crests etc change with the latest fashions. It's about time we stripped it down to the basics again. A bit like what Liverpool's badge now.
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I may also be in a minority here but I've always thought the motto "Prepared" was a bit lame.
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I may also be in a minority here but I've always thought the motto "Prepared" was a bit lame.
Wash your mouth out!
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I may also be in a minority here but I've always thought the motto "Prepared" was a bit lame.
Wash your mouth out!
Just a personal opinion. I'm not massively keen on it. At least now you know I'm not always positive about everything to do with the club!
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'Prepared' is the best motto of any club in the land.
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The 1975 one. Anyone who thinks differently is just wrong. End of. Fact. Lock the thread.
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The 1975 one. Anyone who thinks differently is just wrong. End of. Fact. Lock the thread.
Switch the FC at the bottom for 'Prepared' and we'd win the league again, the badge would be that good and have that big an effect.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
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I may also be in a minority here but I've always thought the motto "Prepared" was a bit lame.
I happen to agree with you. Reminds me of the boy scouts. For what it's worth, the round badge gets my vote. Nice and simple, no star, no motto, just the words Aston Villa FC.
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Definitely the 1975 one for me.
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Nike have their faults, and I wouldn't particularly want to go that route again. But they do simple kits well.
In contrast, Macron try to cram too much in. The Macron men, the crap collars and unnecessary detail near the collars.
It does look like tat -even on professional athletes. Which takes some doing.
Their Napoli and Lazio kits are generally first class, but they appear to be the exception. We get palmed off with the inferior gear, like the other 99% of their clients. If it's any consolation, look at the Leeds away kit. Some poor beggar always has it worse.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
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Every year the club drop hints to the away kit with the kit day posters, because of this I expect our away kit to be yellow and green or maybe just yellow.
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I would just like to see a Yellow lion embroided onto the shirt, with the name and Prepared underneath. I would also have the star, or maybe how many trophies we have won in small Roman numerals hidden somewhere.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
Can somebody check a label?
Everyone's labels peeled off after 2 washes
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
Made in China. Checked both home shirts and last season's away.
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Are you saying it's not the biggest shirt deal in our history? Which one was worth more?
Please can you answer, do you think that Nike's failure to get the kits out before Winter had started was acceptable?
Any second now...
I'll answer it if you want.
It is the most lucrative deal the club has had.
It was pretty shoddy that the last Nike kit wasn't available for so long You can't excuse those things.
As a fan though, and although I personally haven't bought one for myself this season, the quality of my sons two shirt (last two home shirts) and my Dad's couple have been of poor quality compared to Macrons direct competitors products.
I accept the line about the labour costs too, but of course that is going to have a bearing on the quality of materials used, especially if you intend to keep the mark-up on the retail price in line with competitors.
Of that 70% that is being quoted, how many do you think just like it because it's a Villa shirt and it's the latest one, because lets be honest that's why the majority of people buy it.
True but some, well one at least, will just vote against anything the club does!
Thanks for a more reasoned response than SH's "anything I don't like must be shit" posts on every subject.
When you say the quality wasn't good what was wrong with them? Did they fall apart in the wash? Did you write to the club, hopefully any problems can be (ahem) ironed out before next year?
Haha, I did like the last line!
Last seasons was the wrong colours from the off for me. I had last seasons as well as my son. The sponsor started to come off mine after about 5 washes, and as well as the feel of the fabric being poor, it seemed to get little pulls all over the shop that ruined the look of it for both shirts.
I liked the design of this years and really wanted to get it. My Dad bought it before me. He'd had it a week and washed it once after wearing for a day, maybe two in the summer. he told me he'd got it and let me try it on and have a feel for it, and again I just didn't like the feel. And already in the short space of time he'd had it there were pulls in the side vent parts, and (you know the little elasticated bit at the bottom on both sides?) had started to fray. My Sons one this year hasn't been too bad so far, but then he's only just grown into it really and will be wearing it more this summer. It was bought as a gift.
One personal thing I don't like either is the infant sizing range is massive and gave a problem at the start of the season of either buying a shirt that would fit my son for a month or so, or buy a shirt that was miles too big that he can only realistically wear at this point in the season. There was no in between size. Kids sizing is a mine feild though and I do have some sympathy with the manufacturers there.
Put me right off and I didn't buy this years in the end. I may buy one when it's cheap as chips, but more just to keep my collection going than to wear.
As a consumer I'm just not impressed with Macron, and I dare say I could contact the club with my concerns. I'd rather just not buy the stuff though to be honest
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What do you all think is the 'proper' badge?
Is there such a thing?
I know what my favourite is though
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
Made in China.
Ah well... hmmm...
Maybe that video was just the design rather than the manufacture then, or perhaps I'm going mad?
Either way, I can't imagine their human rights record being worse than Nike's.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
Made in China.
Ah well... hmmm...
Maybe that video was just the design rather than the manufacture then, or perhaps I'm going mad?
Either way, I can't imagine their human rights record being worse than Nike's.
Agreed. After all China's human rights record is second to none.
Erm...
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I would just like to see a Yellow lion embroided onto the shirt, with the name and Prepared underneath. I would also have the star, or maybe how many trophies we have won in small Roman numerals hidden somewhere.
Agree with the first bit but not the stars. I want us to look forwards not backwards, I used to like the star but we shouldn't need to showcase it or what we've won. The only exception for me is national teams and World Cups.
Yellow lion with 'prepared' under it please. Or 'Aston Villa' / 'Est. 1874' if people think that would be better.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
Made in China. Checked both home shirts and last season's away.
Ta. Shame.
I don't like the current shirts at all, and the sponsor doesn't do it any favours. I thought the first Nike was fine, probably because they didn't have much time / couldn't be arsed so it was as plain as could be. I bought a load sans sponsor on ebay, and they've stood up well to my gut stress test.
I don't mind Randy's badge - a few tweaks and it might even be my favourite. As it is, 1975 please.
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You'd think if Macron were making the kit for next season they'd have their name plastered all over a kit launch poster,
We won't be with Macron next season.....just me?!
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I may be one of the few, but i think Macron's designs have been way better than Nike's half arsed efforts
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It's the 1975 badge for me but I do like the 1969 version from Legion's picture.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
I don't know about Macron's arrangements but lots of clothes made in Italy by adults are actually made by illegal immigrants treated abysmally - little better than slaves - working in hideous environments in sweat shops for pennies, in factories run by organised crime in southern Italy, so I wouldn't necessarily bank on that as a mark of ethics.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
Made in China.
Ah well... hmmm...
Maybe that video was just the design rather than the manufacture then, or perhaps I'm going mad?
Either way, I can't imagine their human rights record being worse than Nike's.
Agreed. After all China's human rights record is second to none.
Erm...
Unless you are walking around stark naked, or you are so minted you can afford clothes made by custom tailors where you know where the material was acquired and who put it together then you're on dodgy ground pulling out that card aren't you?
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The 57 cup final badge.
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I may be one of the few, but i think Macron's designs have been way better than Nike's half arsed efforts
They've been a lot better, no idea why people would prefer Nike other than the fact they are Nike. The quality of the Nike shirts (most of them anyway, 2010/11 was shit) was slightly better but the designs were piss poor.
Macron got their act together a bit this season with the Macron men but I'd rather they were just fucked off entirely.
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The thing I don't like with the Macron kits (ie the design) is that they are so over fussy - look at this season's home kit, all that frilly guff around the neck. Just horrible.
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The thing I don't like with the Macron kits (ie the design) is that they are so over fussy - look at this season's home kit, all that frilly guff around the neck. Just horrible.
it's like they got caught in two minds and said fuck it go with both. The rest of the shirt isn't bad. I don't the materials they use on new kits now anyway.
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It was also manufactured by adults in Italy, being paid a reasonable wage, rather than by children in Asian sweatshops, like the clothing you're so fond of. Another reason to be proud of our great club.
I'd be very pleasantly amazed if this was true. Can somebody check a label?
I've not got one handy but I'm sure I remember a video of them being made cropping up on here before.
Made in China.
Ah well... hmmm...
Maybe that video was just the design rather than the manufacture then, or perhaps I'm going mad?
Either way, I can't imagine their human rights record being worse than Nike's.
Agreed. After all China's human rights record is second to none.
Erm...
Unless you are walking around stark naked, or you are so minted you can afford clothes made by custom tailors where you know where the material was acquired and who put it together then you're on dodgy ground pulling out that card aren't you?
Agreed. cdbullyweefan take note!
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Take your pick:
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10153970_822364027791157_342436176_n.jpg)
What about this one which is very different from the 1992 circa one
(http://www.logotypes101.com/logos/241/B4A4102D882A23C0D0C6C70DFAB2B2BD/Aston_Villa_FC78.png)
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Wonder if the season card choices give a clue to the kits next season? Number 1 the home kit and number 3 the away kit? (White with claret pinstripe like 82)
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Take your pick:
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10153970_822364027791157_342436176_n.jpg)
What about this one which is very different from the 1992 circa one
(http://www.logotypes101.com/logos/241/B4A4102D882A23C0D0C6C70DFAB2B2BD/Aston_Villa_FC78.png)
This badge was used in 92! The dates are wrong on the above.
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So last year there was a mega clear out at the club shop with everything £5 - including coats.
Anyone any idea if or when that will kick off again?
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I would think the white tent might be making an appearance in the close season.
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I have a soft spot for the 69 , as they were wearing this when I started to go Villa.
1975 for me
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I love the 70s round badge, but I totally understand those who don't - I see why younger fans would not feel any kinship with it.
For me it reminds me of growing up, of winning the league cup a couple of times, of seeing people with it sewn onto denim jackets, of seeing it on our sponsor-free lovely kit of that time.
Like Theme from an Unmade Silent Movie - a sound which even now, 40 years later, makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up, as it causes brilliant memories of 1970s Villa to come flooding back - I can understand why the younger generation would feel a total emotional blank to it.
You had to be there.
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Spine-tingling:
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Problem with the round badge -today- is it will look like Chelsea's.
We got there first in the 70's yada yada yada, but as far as promotion overseas (and possibly even copyright) it might be an issue.
Never liked the striped one, too Olbiyun. And stripes have rarely been a part of our history (except for 1957, and the layout was different) so don't see why they should be in our badge at all.
I'd go for the 1957 crest out of all the above, though gold on a light blue background might work. Light yellow on a light blue background has always looked a bit naff though, particularly with the fonts that look like they've been knocked up in two minutes via microsoft paint.
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Problem with the round badge -today- is it will look like Chelsea's.
We got there first in the 70's yada yada yada, but as far as promotion overseas (and possibly even copyright) it might be an issue.
I was going to post the exact same thing. Middlesbrough is/was another one.
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The round 70s and 80s one is of course a classic but I do like the crest we had from 1992-98 ish. I did like that one.
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That 1923 crest (with a similar colour scheme to today's) looks like a professional design effort.
The blue is just dark enough to make a contrast and the lion has sharp detail
Whereas today's crest- with professional designers supposedly working on it- looks weak and half-arsed.
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My favourite Villa badge would be the 1957 shield. However, I have always loved this version which I've had since I was little boy. It was part of my older brothers birthday cake when he was a lad in the late 60's. One of my favourite Villa possessions, now takes pride of place in my kitchen.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/L8ton/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/L8ton/media/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg.html)
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I do like that Leighton. Looks modern too.
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My favourite Villa badge would be the 1957 shield. However, I have always loved this version which I've had since I was little boy. It was part of my older brothers birthday cake when he was a lad in the late 60's. One of my favourite Villa possessions, now takes pride of place in my kitchen.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/L8ton/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/L8ton/media/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg.html)
That's fantastic. I want one!
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That's cool.
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My favourite Villa badge would be the 1957 shield. However, I have always loved this version which I've had since I was little boy. It was part of my older brothers birthday cake when he was a lad in the late 60's. One of my favourite Villa possessions, now takes pride of place in my kitchen.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/L8ton/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/L8ton/media/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg.html)
That's fantastic. I want one!
Now, that's a badge.
"Ace Badge, Ace Future"
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Similar(ish) to this. Which I think went on a car judging by the back of it, beyond that no idea what it was for. I've had it since I was a nipper in the 70s.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/15106_482228608566382_522087987_n_zps72adf0b8.jpg)
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I have a soft spot for the 69 , as they were wearing this when I started to go Villa.
1975 for me
Always had a soft spot for the 69 too.
But as far as badges are concerned, the 57 for me please, or a slight variation of it.
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Any badge Pre 92.
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I don't get this kit snobbery.
Those of you that want Adidas or Puma are just after a brand. Unless you're a Chumpions League club, you're going to end up with a template like in the case of Adidas with Albion, Forest, Middlesbrough, Bristol City, Hull.
Many of the teams below Premiership level will end up with kits made by Adidas, Macron or whomever but the kit is supplied by an intermediary teamwear business - the same sort of business you or I could go to for our own team.
At least with Macron we have something that's ours & only ours. It's individual, thought out & exclusive. Not the case with some of the Nike efforts.
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At least with Macron we have something that's ours & only ours. It's individual, thought out & exclusive. Not the case with some of the Nike efforts.
And ugly as fuck and prone to falling apart on the third wash.
i think that's the main objection.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmF_LbeCMAAOXuA.png)
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That'll do me!
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Lose the thin blue stripe and make the Macron men claret and you could be onto something.
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Quality? Generally 100% polyster is 100% regardless of what brand trademark is put on it. That said, my favourite cycling top is one my missus picked up for under a tenner in Aldi...
Badge? I always wished that we wore the badge that was once atop the Trinity Road Stand even in the glory says of the round badge.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmF_LbeCMAAOXuA.png)
Very West Ham. Don't like the white Macron men either. Should be blue.
I don't get why people are so against trying a different template with regards to the colourway. Some of our greatest achievements were in alternatives to the classic claret body/blue sleeves combo we see 99% of the time now.
(http://www.footballemporium.co.uk/uploads/1/4/8/3/14831570/9042621_orig.jpg?157)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Retro-1957-FA-Cup-Final-Aston-Villa-Shirt-XXXL-/00/s/MTYwMFgxMTIx/z/-HYAAOxyzHxRWbs~/$T2eC16ZHJGIE9nnWrPM9BRWbs-,5pw~~60_35.JPG)
(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/aston-villa-home-football-shirt-1982-1983-s_7235_1.jpg)
At least with Macron we have something that's ours & only ours. It's individual, thought out & exclusive. Not the case with some of the Nike efforts.
And ugly as fuck and prone to falling apart on the third wash.
i think that's the main objection.
Last season yes.
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The only real variation from the claret shirt/blue sleeves template that I really really loved was the Muller stripes top - although I wouldn't say I hated any of the others with the exception of the NTL FA Cup Final stripes top and the pinkish NTL Gregory top. But we are Aston Villa and we wear claret shirts with blue sleeves so hopefully Macron will be faithful to this once again, their last two kits have been v traditional/retro. Blue socks too please, hate it when we wear claret socks although the one year we wore black was interesting.
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The only real variation from the claret shirt/blue sleeves template that I really really loved was the Muller stripes top - although I wouldn't say I hated any of the others with the exception of the NTL FA Cup Final stripes top and the pinkish NTL Gregory top. But we are Aston Villa and we wear claret shirts with blue sleeves so hopefully Macron will be faithful to this once again, their last two kits have been v traditional/retro. Blue socks too please, hate it when we wear claret socks although the one year we wore black was interesting.
I think the colour of socks thing is generation linked. I have always preferred claret socks and blue shorts as that was the kit when I first started my Villa obsession in the 60's. I also like claret and blue shirts white shorts and white socks.
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I always say I'd like something completely different, batshit even, and I also don't really care if it fails as I appreciate the attempt. I understand the traditionalists, but I'm just not one of them.
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Most other teams don't mess with their basic template and it usually irritates me when we do. You don't see Arsenal, Man Yoo or Liverpool venture into stripes or halves or whatever, you don't see Sunderland, Albion or Newcastle abandoning their stripes. For me, claret body with blue sleeves is Villa. Of the examples shown above, the FA Cup winning one was a change strip and a one off (which I would welcome back as a change strip any time), the 1982 one is only a slight deviation from the basic template, and I never liked the Muller one or the later stripey one and especially the all-purple/no-claret abomination under Gregory. The only non-standard one I ever vaguely liked was the Tommy Docherty era one, which looked cool at the time. As for variations, that's what change strips are for. I always say if you want to support a team in stripes, adopt a second team or something. Now if only someone could explain to Macron what claret actually looks like. And the right shade of blue for that matter.
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Barcelona do it regularly and it works. It's a bit hard for Man U/Lpool as their kits are red but the former has dabbled, 2010 with the black V kit.
Bayern Munich are another one but they actually change colours not just templates. Dortmund are another.
I really want an updated version of the 57 kit tbh.
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A 1982 Le Coq copy would do for me - H & A.
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I really want an updated version of the 57 kit tbh.
I would like to see something along those lines too. Its not impossible for the club to do something like that, considering our away kit this season.
The 57 badge I would love also and not altered either.
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For me it's:
- home: shirt claret body with light blue sleeves, white shorts and light blue socks
- away: anything, try something new/different
Just leave the home shirt in claret & blue - it's part of being Aston Villa
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmI_zWiCIAAWAes.png)
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That's good - I do like the collar.
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Can't understand how so many people can like the old, famous, Muller shirt.
The dark red wasn't claret at all (assuming that claret is the current season, the 1982 and the 70's colour, correct me if I am wrong) and the blue was not the classic Villa light blue.
It was the shirt of another team.
(http://i.imgur.com/1Y09WADl.jpg)
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Can't understand how so many people can like the old, famous, Muller shirt.
The dark red wasn't claret at all (assuming that claret is the current season, the 1982 and the 70's colour, correct me if I am wrong) and the blue was not the classic Villa light blue.
It was the shirt of another team.
(http://i.imgur.com/1Y09WADl.jpg)
It's an absolutely hideous shirt. Looks really cheap and amateurish. If we're gonna go retro there's plenty of great kits to look back on, and not this.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmI_zWiCIAAWAes.png)
Yes.
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I bought this today for £20 from the club shop in town, hopefully it will prove to be of decent(ish) quality.
(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/380x450_fitbox-aston-villa-matchday-anthem-pitchside-jacket-c13000066_h.jpg)
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Can't understand how so many people can like the old, famous, Muller shirt.
The dark red wasn't claret at all (assuming that claret is the current season, the 1982 and the 70's colour, correct me if I am wrong) and the blue was not the classic Villa light blue.
It was the shirt of another team.
(http://i.imgur.com/1Y09WADl.jpg)
Agreed. Horrible home and away kits. Claret isn't a difficult colour to get wrong. If you're not sure just go to B&Q and get a colour strip before trying to convince us that which ever variant of red foisted upon us, that it's claret. (Also agree with the blue).
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The Green Muller was awful (oddly enough I quite liked it at the time), but the home kit I really liked. Actually think the current one is rubbish, and us being sponsored by another betting firm makes it double fail ::)
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Did anyone else see Burnley's new kit yesterday? Very retro design, one which I'm sure we had in the early 20th century.
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Based on their 1914 strip, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of winning the FA Cup. I think it is only used for that one game and is not for sale to supporters due to the crest.
(http://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/cms_images/other/ings-1914-shirt-4-3113-1507251_478x359.jpg)
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Based on their 1914 strip, to commemorate the 100th anniversary of winning the FA Cup. I think it is only used for that one game and is not for sale to supporters due to the crest.
(http://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/cms_images/other/ings-1914-shirt-4-3113-1507251_478x359.jpg)
Ah right, missed that bit about it being for the one game!!
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Final year I think.
yep, it was an initial three year agreement. This years home kit was fine except the collar which I didn't like at all. I think given the season I fell out of love with what this years kits have represented, so hoping for a number of new and exciting things to look forward to in the summer.
i thought this seasons kit was terrible. Horrible scratchy material and very cheap looking. Been jealous of west ham and their Adidas number this season.
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Final year I think.
yep, it was an initial three year agreement. This years home kit was fine except the collar which I didn't like at all. I think given the season I fell out of love with what this years kits have represented, so hoping for a number of new and exciting things to look forward to in the summer.
i thought this seasons kit was terrible. Horrible scratchy material and very cheap looking. Been jealous of west ham and their Adidas number this season.
Same. Didn't bother with this seasons.
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Final year I think.
yep, it was an initial three year agreement. This years home kit was fine except the collar which I didn't like at all. I think given the season I fell out of love with what this years kits have represented, so hoping for a number of new and exciting things to look forward to in the summer.
i thought this seasons kit was terrible. Horrible scratchy material and very cheap looking. Been jealous of west ham and their Adidas number this season.
Same. Didn't bother with this seasons.
go retro. It never disappoints.
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I see even Sheff U have seen the light and swapped Macron for Adidas.
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I see even Sheff U have seen the light and swapped Macron for Adidas.
the only thing I'll say about Puma/Adidas/Nike is that unless you are at the very top of the tree they simply send you your colours in the same design as 100's of other teams. Now, if the logo means a lot, then it will be appealing to wear one of those above Macron. But Nike's quality is no different to Macron. Same materials being used by most of the kit manufacturers now. Our kit under Adidas would look much like West Ham's really. For me, as I don't really invest in new kits is to get the best deal for the club which is what Macron did for us.
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I wouldn't say West Ham are a top of the tree club but their kit this season is definately not an Adidas generic template.
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I suppose there's a degree of snob value, but I'd prefer us to be associated with an Adidas, Nike, Puma than Macron. Macron has connotations of lower league/Sunday morning teams to me. When we signed with Nike I felt that we had arrived on a bigger stage...I don't place any emphasis on quality of the kit, it's more about being associated with the big players. Even Liverpool fans were gutted when they initially signed with Warrior, because it was a brand most hadn't heard of.
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Imagine the retro gold they could churn out if we signed a deal with Umbro
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I see even Sheff U have seen the light and swapped Macron for Adidas.
the only thing I'll say about Puma/Adidas/Nike is that unless you are at the very top of the tree they simply send you your colours in the same design as 100's of other teams. Now, if the logo means a lot, then it will be appealing to wear one of those above Macron. But Nike's quality is no different to Macron. Same materials being used by most of the kit manufacturers now. Our kit under Adidas would look much like West Ham's really. For me, as I don't really invest in new kits is to get the best deal for the club which is what Macron did for us.
The difference is, even given the fact we were low priority to them and the quality was shit, which seems to be the case with Macron, too, the Nike kits all looked nicer than the horrible designs Macron have come up with.
Even that fucking horrible one with the check bits down the side, even that was nicer than what Macron have come up with.
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I see even Sheff U have seen the light and swapped Macron for Adidas.
the only thing I'll say about Puma/Adidas/Nike is that unless you are at the very top of the tree they simply send you your colours in the same design as 100's of other teams. Now, if the logo means a lot, then it will be appealing to wear one of those above Macron. But Nike's quality is no different to Macron. Same materials being used by most of the kit manufacturers now. Our kit under Adidas would look much like West Ham's really. For me, as I don't really invest in new kits is to get the best deal for the club which is what Macron did for us.
The difference is, even given the fact we were low priority to them and the quality was shit, which seems to be the case with Macron, too, the Nike kits all looked nicer than the horrible designs Macron have come up with.
Even that fucking horrible one with the check bits down the side, even that was nicer than what Macron have come up with.
the material for that was every bit as gash though. Take the collar out of the current Macron, it's better than the checked version in my opinion anyway
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I agree on the material, like i said, the quality was shit, but the fact is the current Macron does have that collar effect, doesn't it?
Of course it'd look nicer if it wasn't there, but it is. Like last season's kit would have looked nicer without those Macron patterns on the shoulder.
I can think of several Nike kits we wore which we eye-pleasing designs, but I can't think of any Macron ones I'd describe as nice. Possibly the current away kit is the best, but even that is rubbish when compared to, say, the white Nike away kit, the England inspired one.
It's all subjective, I know, but there don't seem to be that many people around who like the Macron designs.
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I seem to recall that Macron employed a team of designers (Italian at that) to research all about us, our history, previous kits etc to come up with a classic Villa kit. And it was utter gash. This one is marginally better, but still a long way short of what I'd like us to have. They seem to look after the Italian clubs better than us...take the Napoli kit for example. Much nicer.
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In my opinion (which must be tempered against the fact I'm told I have very little taste), the best and most enduring designs are usually the simplest and cleanest (e.g. E-Type Jag).
Sadly Macron struggle from the onset with their stupidly intrusive logos. The best kits have the basic colours in the right places, with minimal trim and no unnecessary insets, panels, flashes, patterning, shading, or for the love of Mike, detailing.
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In my opinion (which must be tempered against the fact I'm told I have very little taste), the best and most enduring designs are usually the simplest and cleanest (e.g. E-Type Jag).
Sadly Macron struggle from the onset with their stupidly intrusive logos. The best kits have the basic colours in the right places, with minimal trim and no unnecessary insets, panels, flashes, patterning, shading, or for the love of Mike, detailing.
Totally agree. Less is more.
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Home 2014/15 - pinstripes
Away 2014/15 - all white, no pinstripes
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Home 2014/15 - pinstripes
Away 2014/15 - all white, no pinstripes
Fact? Or what you would like!?
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Claret body and Blue sleeves please. White shorts and blue socks with two claret bands at the top.
Lovely.
White away kit please.
No details, no sponsor, no logos. In fact not even a badge, just a lion embroidered onto the shirt, Aston Villa above, FC below.
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(http://i1.cpcache.com/product/436367781/rubbish_tshirt.jpg?height=225&width=225)
Our new Home shirt for next season has been leaked. It's a radical shift in colour and design from the norm, but the club want to fall in line with trading standards apparently.
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Home 2014/15 - pinstripes
Away 2014/15 - all white, no pinstripes
Fact? Or what you would like!?
Well I can't say fact but I would say as close to fact as is possible.
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It'd be nice if our new owners (if it happens) buy out Macron's deal and give them the boot.
Yeah, let's piss money away for no good reason.
There is good reason. It would mean ridding the club of the cheapest, tackiest kit supplier this club has ever had.
No way that was the Asics crap. Remember the Muller shirts that had threads of polyester pulling all over it.
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Home 2014/15 - pinstripes
Away 2014/15 - all white, no pinstripes
Fact? Or what you would like!?
Well I can't say fact but I would say as close to fact as is possible.
fac?
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I'd buy the away. I do like the addition of black to the away kit. Reminds of one of our kits from a few years back with Platty in it. My mind is playing tricks and memory fading but I thought it might have had Mita Copiers on it.
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Or, facl?
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Home 2014/15 - pinstripes
Away 2014/15 - all white, no pinstripes
Fact? Or what you would like!?
Well I can't say fact but I would say as close to fact as is possible.
fac?
I think someone hinted the other day based on the design of the new ST cards that the new kits might have pinstripes. Seemed a pretty good guess.
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I was being fac ile
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I'd buy the away. I do like the addition of black to the away kit. Reminds of one of our kits from a few years back with Platty in it. My mind is playing tricks and memory fading but I thought it might have had Mita Copiers on it.
This one?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/29/article-1102738-00E9617600000190-441_468x659.jpg)
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88-89? 89-90?
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I'd buy the away. I do like the addition of black to the away kit. Reminds of one of our kits from a few years back with Platty in it. My mind is playing tricks and memory fading but I thought it might have had Mita Copiers on it.
This one?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/29/article-1102738-00E9617600000190-441_468x659.jpg)
I knew there was a reason we get along PWS! Yes, not only have you nailed it but you have helped me stave off madness for another day.
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Here's all our away kits. I think we should avoid repeating the February 1953 one.
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa-change-kits.html
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My favourite Villa badge would be the 1957 shield. However, I have always loved this version which I've had since I was little boy. It was part of my older brothers birthday cake when he was a lad in the late 60's. One of my favourite Villa possessions, now takes pride of place in my kitchen.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/L8ton/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/L8ton/media/82d1778b-24d0-4dd4-b718-ad71848516e0.jpg.html)
I have one of these which was stuck on the front of my bedroom door from when I was a kid..
I still love it !! UTV
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88-89? 89-90?
81 82 83 84 !
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I'd buy the away. I do like the addition of black to the away kit. Reminds of one of our kits from a few years back with Platty in it. My mind is playing tricks and memory fading but I thought it might have had Mita Copiers on it.
This one?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/29/article-1102738-00E9617600000190-441_468x659.jpg)
this was a class kit. we wore that 3 seasons in a row between 1990-93. I think of Staunton's goal vs Man United at OT, Deano's winner at Anfield and several long rangers from Rico when I see this top.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmV5dZ3CMAAh-FX.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmVxTo5CQAAdUQp.png)
It's you that keeps doing these kit mock ups?
I'm assuming you use photoshop and use the template packs. How exactly do you do this? I've tried and it's difficult to get my head round.
You should do a mock up of my '57 remake kit and get Macron to consider it for 15/16.
Also the Macron men will be blue on the home shirt.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmV5dZ3CMAAh-FX.png)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmVxTo5CQAAdUQp.png)
Both nice kits.
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just bought the 57 cup final shirt, always wanted one and used my Villa Cash....cost me £10.20p...hope it fits, as I got fat bastard size....
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmeM_olCYAAeDXu.png)
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I'd buy the away. I do like the addition of black to the away kit. Reminds of one of our kits from a few years back with Platty in it. My mind is playing tricks and memory fading but I thought it might have had Mita Copiers on it.
This one?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/29/article-1102738-00E9617600000190-441_468x659.jpg)
Could also be the one Hummell produced with the white body and black arms? (anyone got a pic?)
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(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/aston-villa-away-football-shirt-1989-1990-s_1584_1.jpg)
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I suspect people would come to see the Macron era in a more favourable light had the football been nicer to watch.
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(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/aston-villa-away-football-shirt-1989-1990-s_1584_1.jpg)
I bought that shirt in the summer of 1990. About three days later, without any warning, it was changed. That's the sort of thing we had to put up with back then.
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Changed how Dave?
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just bought the 57 cup final shirt, always wanted one and used my Villa Cash....cost me £10.20p...hope it fits, as I got fat bastard size....
I will be wearing mine this Saturday & hoping it brings luck to all of us.
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(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/aston-villa-away-football-shirt-1989-1990-s_1584_1.jpg)
I bought that shirt in the summer of 1990. About three days later, without any warning, it was changed. That's the sort of thing we had to put up with back then.
Only having a kit for one season wasn't the norm back then. It was normally two seasons at least.
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Changed how Dave?
Bearing in mind that kits usually lasted for a few years back then, can you imagine the shitstorm that would happen now if a club announced midway through the summer that they were introducing a new one?
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There was blue added to the sleeves wasn't there?
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The infamous Black Shirt farrago debate on the General Krulak thread seems an age ago.
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I really liked he black kit.
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It was ace.
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It was black.
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(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/aston-villa-away-football-shirt-1989-1990-s_1584_1.jpg)
I bought that shirt in the summer of 1990. About three days later, without any warning, it was changed. That's the sort of thing we had to put up with back then.
but wasn't everything better before Randy, Dave?
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(http://www.oldfootballshirts.com/img/shirts/3/aston-villa-away-football-shirt-1989-1990-s_1584_1.jpg)
I bought that shirt in the summer of 1990. About three days later, without any warning, it was changed. That's the sort of thing we had to put up with back then.
but wasn't everything better before Randy, Dave?
Not when I was spending money it wasn't.
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Black, like the endless blackness of space that leads to the chasm of clams.
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The valley of despair...We crawl on our knees to our doom
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(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/850862391.png?1398940376)
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/850862450.png?1398940409)
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You should send them off to Macron Marshall, I'd want both of those tops!
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just bought the 57 cup final shirt, always wanted one and used my Villa Cash....cost me £10.20p...hope it fits, as I got fat bastard size....
I will be wearing mine this Saturday & hoping it brings luck to all of us.
ordered on Tuesday arrived today, that is £10.20p well spent.....and the shirt is awesome, I shall be wearing mine on Sat too Paul...UTV
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You should send them off to Macron Marshall, I'd want both of those tops!
They are based on potential leaks from a guy on VT who tbf came up trumps last season.
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To be honest, as long as the kit doesn't have Skybet Championship badges on the arms I'd accept a royal blue and white penguin kit.
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You should send them off to Macron Marshall, I'd want both of those tops!
They are based on potential leaks from a guy on VT who tbf came up trumps last season.
Awesomo!
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I think the macron shirts would look a lot better with the little men down near the bottom of the sleeves, just saying like.
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I think the macron shirts would look a lot better with the little men down near the bottom of the sleeves, just saying like.
Now that Bannan has gone, who are they going to base them on?
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(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/850862391.png?1398940376)
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/850862450.png?1398940409)
I like these a lot, especially the nod to the Great Away Shirt of '82 with the pinstripe.
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Match up with the season card designs too
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I'd definitely buy the away one
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just bought the 57 cup final shirt, always wanted one and used my Villa Cash....cost me £10.20p...hope it fits, as I got fat bastard size....
I will be wearing mine this Saturday & hoping it brings luck to all of us.
ordered on Tuesday arrived today, that is £10.20p well spent.....and the shirt is awesome, I shall be wearing mine on Sat too Paul...UTV
I always wear a shirt on match day. One of those superstitions and I never wear the shirt at any other time. I love the 57 shirt but every time I wear it on match day, we lose. That means I can never wear my 2nd favourite Villa shirt of all time.
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At least we're no longer alone.
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/official-crystal-palace-2014-15-macron-home-away-kits_26881
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At least we're no longer alone.
http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/official-crystal-palace-2014-15-macron-home-away-kits_26881
Ooooops!
"The away kit uses the same kit template as the Lazio home shit this season."
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Ha!
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(https://hltco.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/20140507-074907.jpg?w=538)
Palace kits for next season, very nice fits imo.
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Please can we have a LONG sleeve option again. Short sleeves with a long sleeve 'sweat' shirt sticking out just looks crap.
Love Marshalls shits. ( oops, see what i did there). Well done.
'57 crest for me - first badge on our shirts and as a mosaic on the old Trinity- with Aston Villa added - so a version of Leightons plastic badge would do me. Then please stick with it forever.
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(https://hltco.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/20140507-074907.jpg?w=538)
Palace kits for next season, very nice fits imo.
That lad on the left not only looks like he's got his little brother's shirt on, but also holding his breath.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnNgP6TIUAEycHv.jpg)
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Those Palarse ones actually look alright. Simple and not too cluttered.
That might change if they get a daft (bet) sponsorship logo, mind.
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The new Macron Millwall tops looked nice but I still haven't worked out how to put a picture on here from a phone.
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(https://hltco.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/20140507-074907.jpg?w=538)
Palace kits for next season, very nice fits imo.
The bloke on the left is clearly wearing one at least two sizes too small.
It looks like the same pose I pull on christmas day as I try on a too-small jumper my Mrs has bought me and pretend it fits me.
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Maybe they're going to be sponsored by Slimfast?
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The new Macron Millwall tops looked nice but I still haven't worked out how to put a picture on here from a phone.
This one?
(http://i1.wp.com/www.liveforfootballshirts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/wpid-Millwall2014.jpg?w=600)
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Yeah, looks better short-sleeved though.
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Need to remove the Macron men. They are universally disliked.
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Need to remove the Macron men. They are universally disliked.
If the rest of the kit isn't too loud (and if they're small enough) they're OK. It's when there are loads of other dots, trangles and go faster stripes all amalgamated together that it looks shite. The rancid cherry on top of the chocolate log, if you like.
For us, because we have two distinct colours in our home strip it's even more noticeable. Kits that have primarily one tone seem to come out a bit better with them. Those Millwall and Palarse ones look like a step in the right direction though, so maybe our Italian designers have stopped smoking every weed in the Blue Peter garden.
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Thing is they are using old templates most of the time for English clubs.
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Id like to see some sort of retro 80's fleck in one of the kits. Probably the away one.
Think it will be white with claret pinstripe though.
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why can we not have a Villa shirt that we can wear backwards, at least it would look as though we were attacking
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Millwall let their fans vote for the new kit design. They were given a choice of 4 in an online poll. I'm surpised it wasn't hijacked by mischievous West Ham fans
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Where is that from Marshall?
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Where is that from Marshall?
Delphino123 on VillaTalk
he was spot on with the away kit last season and is where I have been getting the info from the do my mock ups
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That's the away kit. Will be buying it.
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Niceee kits. At least something is looking promising :o
Er, on paper at least. "digital paper"
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I hope they are the kits.
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long sleeves?? woop woop
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Pinstripes as the ST designs.
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I like the idea of the white away one well smart.
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Not sure about that home top but love the away one. Could well be my first top purchase for some considerable time.
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That's the away kit. Will be buying it.
Uh oh Claret Shorts, is it me or we always useless away from home when we wear claret shorts?
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Away kit is nice, but would be better with blue shorts.
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That's the away kit. Will be buying it.
Uh oh Claret Shorts, is it me or we always useless away from home when we wear claret shorts?
Its not just you - I have had a long problem with us playing in Claret shorts and always text those who sit around me (for home games) went we wear them away - always lose in them !
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Don't really like light blue shorts, and we've had dark blue a few times lately so if you don't want claret shorts I'd maybe suggest white shorts... like the 1982 kits. Can we agree on that?
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Much prefer blue shorts, especially when we play away from home wearing the home kit. We wore blue shorts in the 96 Final. Claret shorts are crap with the home top but ok with away.
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Now come on. It's white shorts with the home strip, don't be silly.
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Don't really like light blue shorts, and we've had dark blue a few times lately so if you don't want claret shorts I'd maybe suggest white shorts... like the 1982 kits. Can we agree on that?
Seconded.
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Now come on. It's white shorts with the home strip, don't be silly.
No I mean if we wear home top away but theres a clash of shorts. We wore blue shorts all the time in 2000-01, didn't look right at all.
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I don't mind having claret shorts on the away kit as long as we have blue shorts to wear with the home top when we need to change. I agree - we never seem to win in all clarlet.
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I'm not exactly sure the short colour changes the result. I quite like the claret but I'm not too fussed. I'd rather the shorts not be white personally.
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I'm not exactly sure the short colour changes the result.
Heretic!
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I don't like lines on our shirts. It only looked good once.
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Well, twice.
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White shorts blue socks at home, away shorts and socks depends on colour of shirt.
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
What would we wear against Palermo then?
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
What would we wear against Palermo then?
Perhaps a pastel yellow, or we can insist they change their shirts.
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They will have to play in skins.
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
What would we wear against Palermo then?
Perhaps a pastel yellow, or we can insist they change their shirts.
We can't both turn up wearing the same outfit. That would be, like, totes a problem.
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They will have to play in skins.
Skins vs Skins and make sure the pitch is extra muddy.
I was never confused...
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We'll just play a game of Wembley for the home leg, and three and in for the away.
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
What would we wear against Palermo then?
Perhaps a pastel yellow, or we can insist they change their shirts.
We can't both turn up wearing the same outfit. That would be, like, totes a problem.
Imagine how much more of a problem it would give our players when trying to pass to a teammate. They've got enough trouble as it is.
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
What would we wear against Palermo then?
Perhaps a pastel yellow, or we can insist they change their shirts.
We can't both turn up wearing the same outfit. That would be, like, totes a problem.
Imagine how much more of a problem it would give our players when trying to pass to a teammate. They've got enough trouble as it is.
I think it would actually help. Given that there'd be a 50% chance of getting the pass right here, that would be an increase from the current 3% pass success rate. It's our best hope.
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All pink. Lets be fabulous.
What would we wear against Palermo then?
Perhaps a pastel yellow, or we can insist they change their shirts.
We can't both turn up wearing the same outfit. That would be, like, totes a problem.
Imagine how much more of a problem it would give our players when trying to pass to a teammate. They've got enough trouble as it is.
Would probably increase the chances of Baker passing to one of ours*
*Sorry Bakemeister, love you really.
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Aston Villa FC @AVFCOfficial · 1h
Villa’s new home kit for 2014-15 is set to be revealed online from Monday June 2. #AVFC
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Confirmed on OS that it is Macron and also glimpse in the video that it is claret body with thin blue pinstripes (and presumably blue sleeves)
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3869680,00.html?
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I prefer the days when you first saw a couple of players wearing it on the back of the Mail.
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Promotional video on OS shows a claret body with blue pinstripes. Oh dear...
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All the kits in our history on here:
http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/Aston_Villa.htm
Late 1980s really was an era that style forgot
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Pin stripes. Oh dear.
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As predicted
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnyPt3uCEAAcf78.png)
At least the away will be a stunner
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Hooped socks.
Not winning anything again, then.
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Our best recent kit was the last Nike one with the black socks.
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Definitely going on the Saturday. Just to meet Sir Brian Little. Hope he brings his Magic Hat with him. :)
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If the team is good the kit ultimately won't matter. If the team is matter a lot of things become shit even if in isolation they are not.
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I thought there was a ban on shirt sponsors from overseas betting firms? I was expecting the dafabet deal to be cancelled. Maybe they cant enforce it untill current live deals have expired?....
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If the team is good the kit ultimately won't matter.
Within reason. I wouldn't want the kit to feature a picture of Jedward riding My Little Pony.
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If the team is good the kit ultimately won't matter.
Within reason. I wouldn't want the kit to feature a picture of Jedward riding My Little Pony.
I'd like to see that on the away kit personally
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If the team is good the kit ultimately won't matter.
Within reason. I wouldn't want the kit to feature a picture of Jedward riding My Little Pony.
I reckon some people would as long as it was made by Nike or Adidas.
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I hadn't even realised that Jason Statham was a Villa fan
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If its still Macron I expect the stripes to have fallen off by the time I get home
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Personally I want the away kit to feature two yellow horses next to a grey cat, with a pink background (obviously). Anyone else share my line of thought?
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I would like Flowers, fish and rainbows in some kind of format on the home shirt!
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1919/20 kit had stripes en route to FA Cup glory which can only mean it is our year.
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Personally I want the away kit to feature two yellow horses next to a grey cat, with a pink background (obviously). Anyone else share my line of thought?
That was my initial vision too.
But a Warhol-inspired away strip, featuring legends such as Steve Simms, Mark Lillis, Gary Penrice and Warren Aspinall would restore some much needed credibility to the club.
Could be very popular with our female supporters too.
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I didn't think they could manage to produce anything worse than last season's shambles of a shirt.
Looks like I was wrong.
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As predicted
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnyPt3uCEAAcf78.png)
At least the away will be a stunner
Looks a bit Scunthorpe
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no, every other team in similar colours look like us, or try to, whatever we come out with. We are the original. Everything is an attempt at flattery.
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I didn't think they could manage to produce anything worse than last season's shambles of a shirt.
Looks like I was wrong.
Last season's was nice ffs.
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I didn't think they could manage to produce anything worse than last season's shambles of a shirt.
Looks like I was wrong.
Last season's was nice ffs.
What's the point in FFSing? It's all subjective, isn't it?
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It is, but it's also pretty odd to decide, as Pete seems to have done, that this season's strip is rubbish despite not having seen it.
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It is, but it's also pretty odd to decide, as Pete seems to have done, that this season's strip is rubbish despite not having seen it.
I meant the comment re last season's strip, but yes, I'd agree, there's not much point deciding on the basis of a mock up.
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Apologies if it came across aggressive. The home shirt was well received on here. You can knock Macron for the shirt before that but last season's was nice.
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Apologies if it came across aggressive. The home shirt was well received on here. You can knock Macron for the shirt before that but last season's was nice.
But that's the point, it's massively subjective, some people might think last season's was nice, others not. You're never going to get widespread approval on something like this.
I actually think the away shirt was nice, but the home shirt pretty horrible, which probably puts me in a minority, but when you're talking about something like that, one man's 1981 stripey collared masterpiece is another's green and black striped Muller away kit.
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Sounds fair. In the spirit of peace and harmony, I'm quite willing to respect other people's views on this issue, so long as they happen to coincide with mine.
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Now available for pre-order here:
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/shop/aston-villa-home-shirt-2014-15-long-sleeve/index.html
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I like it.
It's a claret body, blue arms, white shorts and blue socks. Those are the prerequisites for me, after that I don't mind.
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I like it, not bad at all.
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Yeah, I like it.
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I like it
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It's got stripes.
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I like it. The away looks like a good one too, if the leaked pictures are correct.
All I can think of when I look at the video is how much I'm looking forward to seeing Okore play again!
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I like a bit of variation so think the stripes are good.
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Not a fan to be honest. Obviously we need a sponsor but the Dafuqbet is garish still. I'm not keen on the design either.
Last good kit we had IMO was 09/10. Last decent season we had was 09/10. If our kit is any indicator of what kind of season we'll have, we're probably going down next year. The sooner we get a proper kit again, perhaps sponsored by Ast Computers or Muller Yoghurts, the sooner we can start winning trophies again.
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I like a bit of variation so think the stripes are good.
Off to the Hawthorns with you, laddie.
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I like a bit of variation so think the stripes are good.
Off to the Hawthorns with you, laddie.
I loved the green red and black striped one too.
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Do the stripes represent prison bars? The prison of mediocrity we're currently locked up inside, with a little chance of parole.
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I like a bit of variation so think the stripes are good.
Agreed, I liked them the last time we had them, if only the green and black ones were to return
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Just £68 for the full kid's kit. I'm sure they'll justify that price somehow, but I bet they don't use the phrase "cashing in on loyalty" anywhere in the sales blurb though.
Of course, I don't have to buy it and my spoilt brat kids won't die if they don't get the latest kit, but I'd like to see Lerner or Faulkner explain that to them and try and keep a straight face.
Just one question - why so expensive for a kids' kit. If ayone tells me that's what all the other clubs do, I don't support any other club and I expect Villa to set precedents.
Shit. I might as well have copied and pasted my comments from last year
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Friend of mine just ordered the new Liverpool shirt and shorts for her 8 yr old grandson from their site (yes I know) £79.50.
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It's alright, but i'm not the target market now i've reached an age where football shirts don't really look good
I still think i've prefered every Macron design to Nike's efforts too
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New kit's pretty smart.
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I asked my boy If he wanted it
and he replied I prefer Super Mario Kart 8
I suppose he will get more fun out of that at the moment
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Friend of mine just ordered the new Liverpool shirt and shorts for her 8 yr old grandson from their site (yes I know) £79.50.
how cool would it be if, instead of us justifying our stupid stupid prices by citing other teams' stupid prices, we just sold full kids kits for £20. We'd still probably make £15 profit. Is it all about squeezing the last drop out of fans?
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I like the stripes, but the sleeves look half finished without a bit of claret on them... Ah, well.
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Friend of mine just ordered the new Liverpool shirt and shorts for her 8 yr old grandson from their site (yes I know) £79.50.
how cool would it be if, instead of us justifying our stupid stupid prices by citing other teams' stupid prices, we just sold full kids kits for £20. We'd still probably make £15 profit. Is it all about squeezing the last drop out of fans?
Of course it is. It's the Premier League.
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I like the new home kit, just need some decent players to be wearing it though.
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I really like it. Though I've reached the age (30) where football shirts are no longer appropriate. Happy with just my Fred Perry, Claret and Blue Number and White Fred Perry with Claret and Blue trimmings!
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Not a fan to be honest. Obviously we need a sponsor but the Dafuqbet is garish still. I'm not keen on the design either.
Luckily for me, I am a midget and can comfortably get away with wearing kids' sizes. It's about the only advantage. But hey, every cloud and all that.
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I quite like it, at least we'll look nice when the likes of Leicester and Burnley are trouncing us next season ;)
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I still haven't worn out my "Rover" top but I might be up for some new Villa mugs.
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Friend of mine just ordered the new Liverpool shirt and shorts for her 8 yr old grandson from their site (yes I know) £79.50.
how cool would it be if, instead of us justifying our stupid stupid prices by citing other teams' stupid prices, we just sold full kids kits for £20. We'd still probably make £15 profit. Is it all about squeezing the last drop out of fans?
A guy on the radio last week said Manure could have let every person into the ground for free for the entire duration of the Glazers ownership, with what it's cost to service the debt they bought the club with.
Does that answer your question?
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I really don't like stripes... however, it is only tiny pin-stripes. We're still basically the traditional claret shirt, blue sleeves so I'm willing to let that go. Plus they have the correctly coloured shorts and socks.
Seems nice enough to me.
Still hope for something radical with the away kit. Anything with dinosaurs on it.
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I'm not taken by it on first look I must admit. Something just doesn't seem right, might be the all blue arms.
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With every kit sold they should give away a vial of sweatshop worker's tears.
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What I mean is, it kind of looks like a claret tank top over a blue long sleeved tee. Which probably makes no sense to anyone else and it's just me.
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Now available for pre-order here:
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/shop/aston-villa-home-shirt-2014-15-long-sleeve/index.html
Long sleeve football shirts are just wrong
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Now available for pre-order here:
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/shop/aston-villa-home-shirt-2014-15-long-sleeve/index.html
Long sleeve football shirts are just wrong
It's available in both long and short. I think that is why it doesn't look right to me, the short sleeve looks better, well the back of it does.
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£52.00....... The last one I had was the Acorns one, didn't someone post some catalogue discount code on here for them and it cost about £18.00 delivered because of it?
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/aston-villa-kit_zps4078396b.png)
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I like it.
I like the collar. I like the fact it stays just the right side of over-fussy, which is what I didn't like about last season's home kit.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/aston-villa-kit_zps4078396b.png)
a proper signing in the middle , thank Mcgrath
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Unless you're close enough to be touching it I think it looks more or less exactly the same. I'll be buying the away.
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Looks much better in short sleeve. I like the 1874 on the back. I'm easily pleased.
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Not bad with short sleeves, looks like a body warmer with the long sleeves.
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I really don't like stripes... however, it is only tiny pin-stripes. We're still basically the traditional claret shirt, blue sleeves so I'm willing to let that go. Plus they have the correctly coloured shorts and socks.
Seems nice enough to me.
Still hope for something radical with the away kit. Anything with dinosaurs on it.
A stripe is a stripe.
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Now available for pre-order here:
http://shop.avfc.co.uk/shop/aston-villa-home-shirt-2014-15-long-sleeve/index.html
Long sleeve football shirts are just wrong
Cobblers! How else would one effect the super cool Denis Law playing-while-holding-the-cuffs look that made me look so good as a player? Cough.
And I like it. As Mr Nuts says it hasn't got the over-designed look of last year's thingy.
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No. Some stripes are stripier than others. Put it this way, if Newcastle brought out a shirt with those sort of stripes on, there would be uproar. Because it's not a proper stripe. Therefore it is fine for our purposes.
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I like it.
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The long or short sleeve thing.
It depends what kind of player we're talking about. A creative midfielder along the lines of Sid, for example, should always wear long sleeves. That's because players like that need to have a bit of what I believe the kids call (or called a few years ago) "swagger" about them, and you can't really do that in short sleeves, they need to cover as much of their bony, talented frames as possible, which means long sleeves every time.
Centre halves need to be in short sleeves, partly from a "roll your sleeves up and get stuck in" kind of thing.
re wingers, the point about creative midfielders - "number 10s" as Paul Lambert calls them - also applies to wide players. Think of that Tony Morley goal at Everton in the 80-1 season. Imagine him in short sleeves for that. It just doesn't seem right, does it?
Your traditional big man up front, your Peter Withe absolutely must have short sleeves (in his case for easy access to sweat bands), never long ones. That's because big strikers need to appear to be rugged and hard to handle. You can't do that in long sleeves.
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Your traditional big man up front, your Peter Withe absolutely must have short sleeves (in his case for easy access to sweat bands), never long ones. That's because big strikers need to appear to be rugged and hard to handle. You can't do that in long sleeves
Duncan Ferguson was a long-sleeved man
And Heskey.......
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Looks good to me.
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And Heskey.......
Ah, the tumbling bear.
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No. Some stripes are stripier than others. Put it this way, if Newcastle brought out a shirt with those sort of stripes on, there would be uproar. Because it's not a proper stripe. Therefore it is fine for our purposes.
Thick or thin it's still a stripe.
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At the risk of over-complicating things, maybe wear short sleeves if it's warm and long sleeves if it's cold?
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Like it. Simple, tidy and they've gone with one collar.
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I like it. Shame it has the betting house name on it otherwise I would buy it .
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At the risk of over-complicating things, maybe wear short sleeves if it's warm and long sleeves if it's cold?
Don't be ridiculous!
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No. Some stripes are stripier than others. Put it this way, if Newcastle brought out a shirt with those sort of stripes on, there would be uproar. Because it's not a proper stripe. Therefore it is fine for our purposes.
Thick or thin it's still a stripe.
This one's not too bad.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PETER-MCPARLAND-ASTON-VILLA-1957-FA-CUP-FINAL-SIGNED-12X8-INCH-PHOTO-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/OEMAAOxyuR5TXpNY/$_12.JPG)
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The long or short sleeve thing.
It depends what kind of player we're talking about. A creative midfielder along the lines of Sid, for example, should always wear long sleeves. That's because players like that need to have a bit of what I believe the kids call (or called a few years ago) "swagger" about them, and you can't really do that in short sleeves, they need to cover as much of their bony, talented frames as possible, which means long sleeves every time.
Centre halves need to be in short sleeves, partly from a "roll your sleeves up and get stuck in" kind of thing.
re wingers, the point about creative midfielders - "number 10s" as Paul Lambert calls them - also applies to wide players. Think of that Tony Morley goal at Everton in the 80-1 season. Imagine him in short sleeves for that. It just doesn't seem right, does it?
Your traditional big man up front, your Peter Withe absolutely must have short sleeves (in his case for easy access to sweat bands), never long ones. That's because big strikers need to appear to be rugged and hard to handle. You can't do that in long sleeves.
A perfect summation. Should be included in the laws of the game.
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We tend to reach a cup final when we have stripes. It's definitely our year!
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No. Some stripes are stripier than others. Put it this way, if Newcastle brought out a shirt with those sort of stripes on, there would be uproar. Because it's not a proper stripe. Therefore it is fine for our purposes.
Thick or thin it's still a stripe.
This one's not too bad.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PETER-MCPARLAND-ASTON-VILLA-1957-FA-CUP-FINAL-SIGNED-12X8-INCH-PHOTO-/00/s/NDgwWDY0MA==/z/OEMAAOxyuR5TXpNY/$_12.JPG)
That's not a home kit.
If they brought that out as a home kit I'd be pretty unhappy. The stripes we have on the new one though are thin enough that you won't even notice them at the ground, so okay by me. So long as it doesn't sell too well and give the club an idea to produce a stripier one next year.
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I quite like it.
But on the adults wearing it topic, just like pro cycling kit, team kit is for the team.
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Happy they have stuck with the basic template, but the colours are still wrong for me - the claret is may be about right, or nearly right, better than previous Macron efforts but the blue on the sleeves is still all wrong. They seem to be able to get it right on the socks but not the sleeves. Roll on a change of supplier.
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Why are the stripes white and not blue?
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Happy they have stuck with the basic template, but the colours are still wrong for me - the claret is may be about right, or nearly right, better than previous Macron efforts but the blue on the sleeves is still all wrong. They seem to be able to get it right on the socks but not the sleeves. Roll on a change of supplier.
Don't you like the Macron claret? On the contrary, assuming that the right shade of claret is the one of the 70's and early 80's shirts, I think that the shade of claret of last season kit was perfect.
Nike made only one right claret, the one of the kit with the black socks. The other efforts were dark red, not claret.
Obviously we must agree on the idea of claret, which is not easy.
Being claret the name of a wine used in the South of France, I think that claret is the colour of the wine, a mix between red and purple, the colour that, much significantly, in the rest of Europe is called bordeaux (a more famous french wine), a shade that for its content of purple is different from dark red and maroon (that is a mix between red and brown).
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Why are the stripes white and not blue?
They are blue... aren't they?
Have to check now!
EDIT ** Yes, definitely blue, Vinnie **
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I can confirm the stripes are blue.
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Why are the stripes white and not blue?
They are blue... aren't they?
Have to check now!
EDIT ** Yes, definitely blue, Vinnie **
Thanks! Typo on the bham mail site then as it has the stripes down as being white
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The long or short sleeve thing.
It depends what kind of player we're talking about. A creative midfielder along the lines of Sid, for example, should always wear long sleeves. That's because players like that need to have a bit of what I believe the kids call (or called a few years ago) "swagger" about them, and you can't really do that in short sleeves, they need to cover as much of their bony, talented frames as possible, which means long sleeves every time.
Centre halves need to be in short sleeves, partly from a "roll your sleeves up and get stuck in" kind of thing.
re wingers, the point about creative midfielders - "number 10s" as Paul Lambert calls them - also applies to wide players. Think of that Tony Morley goal at Everton in the 80-1 season. Imagine him in short sleeves for that. It just doesn't seem right, does it?
Your traditional big man up front, your Peter Withe absolutely must have short sleeves (in his case for easy access to sweat bands), never long ones. That's because big strikers need to appear to be rugged and hard to handle. You can't do that in long sleeves.
A perfect summation. Should be included in the laws of the game.
Agreed. I'd also add that deep-lying Pirlo types should have long-sleeves going forward, but should roll them up when it's time to get stuck in and defend.
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Always bothered me that Stanley Victor And Dwight liked a sleeve. Dwight yes, Stan no. It's a look thing. Can I add no keeper should have short sleeves? Wrong on all levels.
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Always bothered me that Stanley Victor And Dwight liked a sleeve. Dwight yes, Stan no. It's a look thing. Can I add no keeper should have short sleeves? Wrong on all levels.
Yes, keeper in short sleeves puts me in mind of that Mexican joker with the frankly offensive shirts.
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(http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Watercolor/St-Petersburg/White-Nights-24-Set/Claret/Claret.gif)
To me this is claret...
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Every year people say it's the wrong sort of claret. We had a couple of kits that were a bit purpley for my liking at the turn of the Millennium but the colours have been decent enough since.
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(http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Watercolor/St-Petersburg/White-Nights-24-Set/Claret/Claret.gif)
To me this is claret...
You'd better point this out to martin as it doesn't match the website version.
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It's all subjective ;D
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Cheaper looking than last years, the neck is awful. Each to their own I guess, any news on the away kit?
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Cheaper looking than last years, the neck is awful. Each to their own I guess, any news on the away kit?
Unveiled next week.
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Its .....ok. Bit too similar to West Ham's two seasons ago. Its ok. Nothing more. Prefered the last two seasons to be honest but certainly not a real kick in the teeth to traditionalism provided you don't mind the pinstripes which I don't.
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The last few efforts have all been a bit 'West Ham,' that is, overdone, messy and just a bit naff.
Whilst ironically, they've started to go with the more simple straightforward designs in recent years.
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It's ok, still a little too fussy - too many design features for my liking, but it will do.
For comparison here's some of the other new kits out already
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910745
And the world cup kits - some truly terrible ones
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10480806/World-Cup-2014-kits-in-pictures.html
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
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(http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Watercolor/St-Petersburg/White-Nights-24-Set/Claret/Claret.gif)
To me this is claret...
We're all looking at that on different, differently calibrated monitors, though, which renders it meaningless until we actually see it in the flesh.
At least when the colour differences we are talking about are so small (ie, if you'd posted a yellow square and said "this is claret", you'd be visibly wrong), it does anyway
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
This. It's fine. Long sleeves. Yeah. Collar, well ok. But whinge. NO. Now let's just pay footy.
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That's "play". PS: don't try and type in a car. On dirt roads. In Botswana. Just saying.
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Simba if you're my cat, get off my ipad and get back to shredding the sofa.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
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We should insist on having Nike back, even though they were rubbish and couldn't produce the kits until Christmas and cost us a fortune, they're a big name.
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I really like it can't wait to see the away one.
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Are the comments on this thread just cut and paste jobs from the last four years?
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Happy they have stuck with the basic template, but the colours are still wrong for me - the claret is may be about right, or nearly right, better than previous Macron efforts but the blue on the sleeves is still all wrong. They seem to be able to get it right on the socks but not the sleeves. Roll on a change of supplier.
Don't you like the Macron claret? On the contrary, assuming that the right shade of claret is the one of the 70's and early 80's shirts, I think that the shade of claret of last season kit was perfect.
Nike made only one right claret, the one of the kit with the black socks. The other efforts were dark red, not claret.
Obviously we must agree on the idea of claret, which is not easy.
Being claret the name of a wine used in the South of France, I think that claret is the colour of the wine, a mix between red and purple, the colour that, much significantly, in the rest of Europe is called bordeaux (a more famous french wine), a shade that for its content of purple is different from dark red and maroon (that is a mix between red and brown).
Sorry Archie, no I haven't been a fan of the Macron version of claret. I think it tends towards the too dark and purple tinged, the type of claret West Ham have often had, but Villa rarely have. I grew up remembering the shirts of the 60s, 70s and early 80s as the lovely rich "dark red" as you put i, rather than Macron's more purple tinged version. I suppose it's all in the eye of the beholder but there is something not quite right/not quite Villa about Macron's version of Claret. Also compare the first Le Coq sportif shirt - a lovely shade of proper Villa claret - to their later effort from around 1983-4 a more purple version which was horrible. I'd put Macron's shade as nearer to the latter. But it's more the blue that I hate on the Macron kits, far too wishy washy and lilac tinged. It should be a lovely rich deep sky blue, which Macron have managed each time with the socks but somehow not the shirts. . I think Nike got the colours more or less right although one shirt was a bit on the red side of claret I seem to recall.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Well I'm amazed you don't like it. At least you looked at it with an open mind...
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
I don't know, I've always thought Armani stuff to be overly tacky.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
Oh, I dunno about that, have you seen the state of some of that Stone Island guff wannabe retro hooligans still wear?
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Well I'm amazed you don't like it. At least you looked at it with an open mind...
I know rubbish when I see it.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
Oh, I dunno about that, have you seen the state of some of that Stone Island guff wannabe retro hooligans still wear?
Is Stone Island Italian? Didn't know that.
Macron is up there with Bill Stunt Jeans when it comes to tackiness though. The sooner we give them the push the the better. Rubbish like that shouldn't be associated with a club as grand as Aston Villa. It's beneath us.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
Oh, I dunno about that, have you seen the state of some of that Stone Island guff wannabe retro hooligans still wear?
Is Stone Island Italian? Didn't know that.
Macron is up there with Bill Stunt Jeans when it comes to tackiness though. The sooner we give them the push the the better. Rubbish like that shouldn't be associated with a club as grand as Aston Villa. It's beneath us.
Better off with some multi-national child slave labour drivers instead.
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He has a point. Stop negging everyone out man........
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I really like it can't wait to see the away one.
Do we know what colour it will be?
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
Oh, I dunno about that, have you seen the state of some of that Stone Island guff wannabe retro hooligans still wear?
Is Stone Island Italian? Didn't know that.
Macron is up there with Bill Stunt Jeans when it comes to tackiness though. The sooner we give them the push the the better. Rubbish like that shouldn't be associated with a club as grand as Aston Villa. It's beneath us.
Better off with some multi-national child slave labour drivers instead.
I'd be surprised if Macron manufactured their kits anywhere other than in a cheap labour market in the Far East. Just like Nike and co.
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Macron is up there with Bill Stunt Jeans when it comes to tackiness though. The sooner we give them the push the the better. Rubbish like that shouldn't be associated with a club as grand as Aston Villa. It's beneath us.
I agree, Macron has all the class of Joe Bloggs jeans, and I haven't really liked most of the stuff they've come up with. They seem to be able to make nice kits for Lazio but not for us.
However, this one looks alright to me.
Moaning about the kit, though, with the way things are at the moment, the amount of uncertainty, seems a bit pointless. It's hard to care too much one way or the other.
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My brother emailed that he does not like it as it looks like a shirt the David Brent character in The Office would wear.
I conducted a straw poll of lunchtime customers in the pub and they were generally favourable. A typical response was "functional with a touch of luxury". It was felt that thin vertical stripes are flattering to fat persons and that the neckline would allow adequate ventilation.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
You make it sound like I've insulted you for calling the new kit rubbish.
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I really like it can't wait to see the away one.
Do we know what colour it will be?
Rumoured to be white, with claret pinstripes.
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SH's moaning posts remind me of the voting by neighbouring countries in Eurovision. You know what's coming and you're not surprised.
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I've just noticed there doesn't seem to be those awful Macron emblems on the shoulders on the new kit. A slight improvement I suppose.
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I've just noticed there doesn't seem to be those awful Macron emblems on the shoulders on the new kit. A slight improvement I suppose.
*faints*
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The Macron stuff is okay, quality seemed better last season so hopefully that will continue this one. However, where the fuck are we on their page!
http://www.macron.com/shop/uk/en/football.html
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I've just noticed there doesn't seem to be those awful Macron emblems on the shoulders on the new kit. A slight improvement I suppose.
They came off after the first wash!
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
You make it sound like I've insulted you for calling the new kit rubbish.
not at all. Just pointing out that you have become H&V's own Nora Batty
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
You make it sound like I've insulted you for calling the new kit rubbish.
not at all. Just pointing out that you have become H&V's own Nora Batty
Victor Meldrew surely?
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
You make it sound like I've insulted you for calling the new kit rubbish.
not at all. Just pointing out that you have become H&V's own Nora Batty
And you're like that overly confident Fast Show character who shouts "BRILLIANT" at every piece of shit that gets thrown at his general direction.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
You make it sound like I've insulted you for calling the new kit rubbish.
not at all. Just pointing out that you have become H&V's own Nora Batty
And you're like that overly confident Fast Show character who shouts "BRILLIANT" at every piece of shit that gets thrown at his general direction.
again, you're not even close. You might want to read some of my posts in the past couple of months. I know exactly what I am going to find when I read yours.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
Oh, I dunno about that, have you seen the state of some of that Stone Island guff wannabe retro hooligans still wear?
Is Stone Island Italian? Didn't know that.
Macron is up there with Bill Stunt Jeans when it comes to tackiness though. The sooner we give them the push the the better. Rubbish like that shouldn't be associated with a club as grand as Aston Villa. It's beneath us.
Better off with some multi-national child slave labour drivers instead.
I'd be surprised if Macron manufactured their kits anywhere other than in a cheap labour market in the Far East. Just like Nike and co.
Well it's hard to find anything controversial about them, and at least they bother designing us our own kit, and in time for the new season.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
your moaning is becoming white noise SH. Every so often if you threw in a bit of happiness you're other criticism might stand out a bit more. You've been told on numerous occasions that there are many of us, including myself that agree with what you say about the club. It's just everything you say is so radically negative and almost never complimentary or positive. I would be willing to bet that everyone here just knew you'd hate the kit, whatever it was because you had made up your mind beforehand that whatever Randy or Faulkner do must be shit. It isn't, and once in a while it would be nice if you could either see that, or if you don't like don't comment on it and bring yet another thread down to a commentary on how dark the clouds are.
Kits are all about opinions and I accept not everyone is going to like it, but is it really so bad to have made the comments you have?
You make it sound like I've insulted you for calling the new kit rubbish.
not at all. Just pointing out that you have become H&V's own Nora Batty
And you're like that overly confident Fast Show character who shouts "BRILLIANT" at every piece of shit that gets thrown at his general direction.
again, you're not even close. You might want to read some of my posts in the past couple of months. I know exactly what I am going to find when I read yours.
Consistency TV, consistency.
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Another awful cheap and tacky Macron effort.
Another moany post.
In fairness Lee, the club have let us down again by not insisting on the use of gold thread and the finest silk, hand stitched and woven by skilled Italian craftsmen.
Faulkner out. Again
Macron must be the only Italian clothing manufacturer without any style.
Oh, I dunno about that, have you seen the state of some of that Stone Island guff wannabe retro hooligans still wear?
Is Stone Island Italian? Didn't know that.
Macron is up there with Bill Stunt Jeans when it comes to tackiness though. The sooner we give them the push the the better. Rubbish like that shouldn't be associated with a club as grand as Aston Villa. It's beneath us.
Better off with some multi-national child slave labour drivers instead.
I'd be surprised if Macron manufactured their kits anywhere other than in a cheap labour market in the Far East. Just like Nike and co.
Well it's hard to find anything controversial about them, and at least they bother designing us our own kit, and in time for the new season.
You make it sound like the Villa had to play in their skins.
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It was worse, because it meant those people with zero fashion sense didn't have anything to wear on matchday, and they had to wear an ordinary garment plucked from their wardrobe, meaning home matches were like a giant civil protest against the fashion police.
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For the millionth time, is it acceptable for a supplier to release the kit months later than promised, costing the club a fortune in lost revenue?
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It was worse, because it meant those people with zero fashion sense didn't have anything to wear on matchday, and they had to wear an ordinary garment plucked from their wardrobe, meaning home matches were like a giant civil protest against the fashion police.
It was like when the Berlin Wall came down, and the East Germans came over, and everyone was happy, but then the Westerners started to notice that they were all wearing double denim and did a sort of collective vinegar face expression at them.
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For the millionth time, is it acceptable for a supplier to release the kit months later than promised, costing the club a fortune in lost revenue?
I couldn't care less what people in the stands wear. I want The players of Aston Villa in a classy kit befitting a club as grand as we are. Macron aren't fit to be our suppliers. They're trash
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It was worse, because it meant those people with zero fashion sense didn't have anything to wear on matchday, and they had to wear an ordinary garment plucked from their wardrobe, meaning home matches were like a giant civil protest against the fashion police.
It was like when the Berlin Wall came down, and the East Germans came over, and everyone was happy, but then the Westerners started to notice that they were all wearing double denim and did a sort of collective vinegar face expression at them.
Didn't the government actually give them cash to sort themselves the fuck out?
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For the millionth time, is it acceptable for a supplier to release the kit months later than promised, costing the club a fortune in lost revenue?
I couldn't care less what people in the stands wear. I want The players of Aston Villa in a classy kit befitting a club as grand as we are. Macron aren't fit to be our suppliers. They're trash
Nike cost us a fortune. They're trash. I'm glad you're not Chief Executive as you're so willing to write off money. You seem to have an O'Neillian grasp of economics.
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For the millionth time, is it acceptable for a supplier to release the kit months later than promised, costing the club a fortune in lost revenue?
I couldn't care less what people in the stands wear. I want The players of Aston Villa in a classy kit befitting a club as grand as we are. Macron aren't fit to be our suppliers. They're trash
Nike cost us a fortune. They're trash. I'm glad you're not Chief Executive as you're so willing to write off money. You seem to have an O'Neillian grasp of economics.
Ahhh, the glory years.
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It was worse, because it meant those people with zero fashion sense didn't have anything to wear on matchday, and they had to wear an ordinary garment plucked from their wardrobe, meaning home matches were like a giant civil protest against the fashion police.
It was like when the Berlin Wall came down, and the East Germans came over, and everyone was happy, but then the Westerners started to notice that they were all wearing double denim and did a sort of collective vinegar face expression at them.
Didn't the government actually give them cash to sort themselves the fuck out?
Yes, more or less.
That's what "Heimat 3" is about, basically. "Oh, we've won the world cup. Oh, hang on, you lot look rank, here's some money for clothes, haircuts and cars".
"Oh, and by the way, stop being so racist, too".
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For the millionth time, is it acceptable for a supplier to release the kit months later than promised, costing the club a fortune in lost revenue?
I couldn't care less what people in the stands wear. I want The players of Aston Villa in a classy kit befitting a club as grand as we are. Macron aren't fit to be our suppliers. They're trash
Nike cost us a fortune. They're trash. I'm glad you're not Chief Executive as you're so willing to write off money. You seem to have an O'Neillian grasp of economics.
I'd gladly take control. I wouldn't have sold all our best players and replaced them with lower league trash. We wouldn't be perennial relegation strugglers then.
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
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We'd have the best kit for a club in administration though.
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We'd have the best kit for a club in administration though.
And now we've got a shit squad, a shit chairman, and a shit kit to match.
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
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We'd have the best kit for a club in administration though.
And now we've got a shit squad, a shit chairman, and a shit kit to match.
For fucks sake, don't you ever give up whinging? You're beginning to bore.
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We'd have the best kit for a club in administration though.
And now we've got a shit squad, a shit chairman, and a shit kit to match.
For fucks sake, don't you ever give up whinging? You're beginning to bore.
If you don't like it ignore it.
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We'd have the best kit for a club in administration though.
And now we've got a shit squad, a shit chairman, and a shit kit to match.
For fucks sake, don't you ever give up whinging? You're beginning to bore.
If you don't like it ignore it.
I wish I could. Talking about what a shit squad we've got on a thread about the kit, unbelievable.
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Is SH Gregnash in disguise? ;)
I quite like that shirt, I just hope we have a team up for it and good enough to play in it.
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Much better than last seasons but £2 more expensive. I'll source mine from alternative outlets.
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
So your solution is to write off more? To have a kit come out once the Summer has finished so virtually nobody actually buys it?
You keep on about how we should act like a "grand club". If Real Madrid had a kit supplier that still hadn't supplied the kit, months after the deadline, costing them a fortune in the process, do you think that they'd:
(a) Look for a different supplier, probably one that gave them more money while they're at it (let's not forget that Macron give us more money than any supplier in our history)
(b) Just stick with the useless bastards, regardless, because "Di Stefano's Heroes", a misery-arse contributor to the Héroes y Villanos website, only likes clothes with a swoosh on them?
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Is SH Gregnash in disguise? ;)
I quite like that shirt, I just hope we have a team up for it and good enough to play in it.
No way, Nash was way more positive
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I like it, it's neat and not over fussy. Pretty good effort.
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We gonna have a poll?
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Just changed my mind. Slim-fit?
Bastards.
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I like it and hope the away strip is as predicted - I'll be spoilt for choice then!
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Anyone got a link to the leaked away kit? We need to get Gorge Campos to design our keeper kit.
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
So your solution is to write off more? To have a kit come out once the Summer has finished so virtually nobody actually buys it?
You keep on about how we should act like a "grand club". If Real Madrid had a kit supplier that still hadn't supplied the kit, months after the deadline, costing them a fortune in the process, do you think that they'd:
(a) Look for a different supplier, probably one that gave them more money while they're at it (let's not forget that Macron give us more money than any supplier in our history)
(b) Just stick with the useless bastards, regardless, because "Di Stefano's Heroes", a misery-arse contributor to the Héroes y Villanos website, only likes clothes with a swoosh on them?
We went from Nike right down to Macron without stopping at Umbro, Adidas, Puma, Diadora or the many other better kit supplier out there. Why? We went from the best to the worst in one leap. It sums up the last 4 years under Lerner.
If you think I'm a "misery arse", fair enough, but I'm realistic unlike many on here. I saw our decline right from the off 4 seasons ago while others on here (not naming names) were dancing with delight at the latest "young and hungry" style bullshit from Lerner and co.
It pays to be a cynic you know.
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I really like the kit, think the pinstripe is a cool design. The hooped socks I am also a fan of.
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It's better than last season's. That's about it
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
So your solution is to write off more? To have a kit come out once the Summer has finished so virtually nobody actually buys it?
You keep on about how we should act like a "grand club". If Real Madrid had a kit supplier that still hadn't supplied the kit, months after the deadline, costing them a fortune in the process, do you think that they'd:
(a) Look for a different supplier, probably one that gave them more money while they're at it (let's not forget that Macron give us more money than any supplier in our history)
(b) Just stick with the useless bastards, regardless, because "Di Stefano's Heroes", a misery-arse contributor to the Héroes y Villanos website, only likes clothes with a swoosh on them?
We went from Nike right down to Macron without stopping at Umbro, Adidas, Puma, Diadora or the many other better kit supplier out there. Why? We went from the best to the worst in one leap. It sums up the last 4 years under Lerner.
If you think I'm a "misery arse", fair enough, but I'm realistic unlike many on here. I saw our decline right from the off 4 seasons ago while others on here (not naming names) were dancing with delight at the latest "young and hungry" style bullshit from Lerner and co.
It pays to be a cynic you know.
What's the kit got to do with how good the team are? Nobody is particularly pleased with the club's performances but I fail to see what that's got to do with the outfit. You moan about a lack of investment then say you would happily write off loads of money. Surely you can at least admit that Nike let Villa down badly, would that hurt?
Specifically with this shirt, you'd clearly decided you didn't like it before it came out. In fact, I remember you whinging on before even last year's kit had come out so you're as open-minded as a UKIP voter trapped in a room with nothing but back-copies of the Daily Mail.
If Nike are, as you say, "the best" why did they fuck up so badly?
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Yes, Liverpool went from Adidas to Warrior without stopping at Macron. A song was recorded. Many candles were lit.
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Bloody hell you lot grow up for f##ks sake, the thread is about the kit not the squad, the manager or the chairman or anyone else. Nike well and truly shafted us with regurgitated French league kits, they never really chipped in much before Christmas with our kits all well and good for us with kids who want to spend £50 on a shirt with a shelf life of 5 or 6 months, and to say that they produced better quality unique kits that's just bullshit. They have just got QPR as a new contract and have produced something stock out of a teamwear catologue and have proudly told the world and it's mother about it, their high profile teams Barca and Man U to name a few have been presented with complete tosh. As far as I'm concerned the club did the right thing at the time and took the most money on offer, I do like this years strip and also thought that last seasons away was nice and different as they should be in my opinion and your comment about Diadorra being better well I stopped taking anything after that serious at all, the shirt was sodding purple. Macron do a decent job and take us as a club serious and don't just plonk generic teamwear shite on us and give us something different. Maybe if we went back to Henson you would be happy and positive.
Rant over but some people on here at the moment are doing my chuff in moan, moan, moan just for the sake of it it would seem no wonder people are moving across to TBAR.
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
So your solution is to write off more? To have a kit come out once the Summer has finished so virtually nobody actually buys it?
You keep on about how we should act like a "grand club". If Real Madrid had a kit supplier that still hadn't supplied the kit, months after the deadline, costing them a fortune in the process, do you think that they'd:
(a) Look for a different supplier, probably one that gave them more money while they're at it (let's not forget that Macron give us more money than any supplier in our history)
(b) Just stick with the useless bastards, regardless, because "Di Stefano's Heroes", a misery-arse contributor to the Héroes y Villanos website, only likes clothes with a swoosh on them?
We went from Nike right down to Macron without stopping at Umbro, Adidas, Puma, Diadora or the many other better kit supplier out there. Why? We went from the best to the worst in one leap. It sums up the last 4 years under Lerner.
If you think I'm a "misery arse", fair enough, but I'm realistic unlike many on here. I saw our decline right from the off 4 seasons ago while others on here (not naming names) were dancing with delight at the latest "young and hungry" style bullshit from Lerner and co.
It pays to be a cynic you know.
I think you're probably right about our 'brand decline'. Early in the Lerner / Nike 'We Start Today' campaign I remember seeing our kits in the Nike superstore on Oxford St., alongside and as prominent as Arsenal and Barcelona. They must have bought into whatever we were selling and thought we were worth the prime floorspace. As sad as I am, I went in to have a look - it was all a bit exciting.
A couple of years later and they can't be arsed getting a decent quality kit out anywhere near on time. I assume they didn't get to be the brand they are by pissing off valuable assets, so at some point they decided we weren't one. It was almost as if they wanted shot of us.
So I'd agree it's hard not to see Macron as yet another sign of our decline, as if we needed one.
As to the kit it's ok - better than last year's. But that sponsor makes a hell of a mess.
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Bloody hell you lot grow up for f##ks sake, the thread is about the kit not the squad, the manager or the chairman or anyone else. Nike well and truly shafted us with regurgitated French league kits, they never really chipped in much before Christmas with our kits all well and good for us with kids who want to spend £50 on a shirt with a shelf life of 5 or 6 months, and to say that they produced better quality unique kits that's just bullshit. They have just got QPR as a new contract and have produced something stock out of a teamwear catologue and have proudly told the world and it's mother about it, their high profile teams Barca and Man U to name a few have been presented with complete tosh. As far as I'm concerned the club did the right thing at the time and took the most money on offer, I do like this years strip and also thought that last seasons away was nice and different as they should be in my opinion and your comment about Diadorra being better well I stopped taking anything after that serious at all, the shirt was sodding purple. Macron do a decent job and take us as a club serious and don't just plonk generic teamwear shite on us and give us something different. Maybe if we went back to Henson you would be happy and positive.
Rant over but some people on here at the moment are doing my chuff in moan, moan, moan just for the sake of it it would seem no wonder people are moving across to TBAR.
Nice rant but could you ask us for advertising rates next time please?
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Wasn't aware I was advertising sorry
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
So your solution is to write off more? To have a kit come out once the Summer has finished so virtually nobody actually buys it?
You keep on about how we should act like a "grand club". If Real Madrid had a kit supplier that still hadn't supplied the kit, months after the deadline, costing them a fortune in the process, do you think that they'd:
(a) Look for a different supplier, probably one that gave them more money while they're at it (let's not forget that Macron give us more money than any supplier in our history)
(b) Just stick with the useless bastards, regardless, because "Di Stefano's Heroes", a misery-arse contributor to the Héroes y Villanos website, only likes clothes with a swoosh on them?
We went from Nike right down to Macron without stopping at Umbro, Adidas, Puma, Diadora or the many other better kit supplier out there. Why? We went from the best to the worst in one leap. It sums up the last 4 years under Lerner.
If you think I'm a "misery arse", fair enough, but I'm realistic unlike many on here. I saw our decline right from the off 4 seasons ago while others on here (not naming names) were dancing with delight at the latest "young and hungry" style bullshit from Lerner and co.
It pays to be a cynic you know.
Really? So being viewed by every other poster on here as an annoying wind up merchant pays does it?
I'd prefer to be remembered for the odd post that makes some sense to be honest rather than a misery arse who everyone now ignores.
Still your life.....
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Wasn't aware I was advertising sorry
Your first post for two months slags us and praises somewhere else. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
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Wasn't aware I was advertising sorry
Your first post for two months slags us and praises somewhere else. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.
Just like the others were.
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I hate the macron quality, designs and the silly men on the shoulders. I am a miserable old git though so just ignore me.
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Ignore what?
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Dave I'm sorry if it came across that way I don't post all the time just because I don't feel the need I enjoy my reads on a daily basis, infact after checking my emails at 5 every morning it's the first place I visit. I was not slagging you off I in general enjoy your posts, it was mainly aimed at the comments that have been rolling on all day that has really nothing to do with the kit launch and was getting just spiteful and childish ( in my opinion) which living in a democratic country I am entitled to have. The comment about the other site was just that a comment I also if your using that as your yardstick mentioned Macron,nike and Diadorra .
I think what I was trying to say was that the bickering had no place on a thread about the new kit, I was not slagging you off and I hope you now see that but surely you as an admin can see that the comments above mine had drifted off topic.
I was also unaware that you had to make a set number of posts per calender month or day to be allowed to comment, if you look back at my membership it has been for a few years and my poss have been few and far between but this doesn't mean I am not entitled to comment when something just ticks me off or the club means any less to me than a person who has posted a trillion times.
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Oh and if you read the last bit I in no way praised the other site. I do object to you implying I was doing that in anyway.
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We, kind of, like the bickering though... or is it just me? It passes the time till the football season comes around again and the real moaning can get underway!
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Yes, Liverpool went from Adidas to Warrior without stopping at Macron. A song was recorded. Many candles were lit.
But they didn't go to Macron, which I've said many times it the cheapest tackiest excuse of a kit supplier in football. Oh and they didn't sell most of their best players either. In my opinion moving to Macron was part of Lerner's ongoing downgrading of the club and lowering of the expectations of the fans.
They may have worked their wonders on you, TV, but it didn't with me. It took you a long long time to realise the Villa didn't have genius plan with the "young and hungry" bullshit. In fact I think it was only relatively recently that you realised you fell for it lock stock and barrel.
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Yeah and you'd do that with magic money produced from a magic lamp, seeing as you're happy to write off money when a kit supplier can be arsed to do what they're supposed to and actually supply kit.
The club have been writing off money left right and centre for the last 4 years. Has that passed you by?
So your solution is to write off more? To have a kit come out once the Summer has finished so virtually nobody actually buys it?
You keep on about how we should act like a "grand club". If Real Madrid had a kit supplier that still hadn't supplied the kit, months after the deadline, costing them a fortune in the process, do you think that they'd:
(a) Look for a different supplier, probably one that gave them more money while they're at it (let's not forget that Macron give us more money than any supplier in our history)
(b) Just stick with the useless bastards, regardless, because "Di Stefano's Heroes", a misery-arse contributor to the Héroes y Villanos website, only likes clothes with a swoosh on them?
We went from Nike right down to Macron without stopping at Umbro, Adidas, Puma, Diadora or the many other better kit supplier out there. Why? We went from the best to the worst in one leap. It sums up the last 4 years under Lerner.
If you think I'm a "misery arse", fair enough, but I'm realistic unlike many on here. I saw our decline right from the off 4 seasons ago while others on here (not naming names) were dancing with delight at the latest "young and hungry" style bullshit from Lerner and co.
It pays to be a cynic you know.
I think you're probably right about our 'brand decline'. Early in the Lerner / Nike 'We Start Today' campaign I remember seeing our kits in the Nike superstore on Oxford St., alongside and as prominent as Arsenal and Barcelona. They must have bought into whatever we were selling and thought we were worth the prime floorspace. As sad as I am, I went in to have a look - it was all a bit exciting.
A couple of years later and they can't be arsed getting a decent quality kit out anywhere near on time. I assume they didn't get to be the brand they are by pissing off valuable assets, so at some point they decided we weren't one. It was almost as if they wanted shot of us.
So I'd agree it's hard not to see Macron as yet another sign of our decline, as if we needed one.
As to the kit it's ok - better than last year's. But that sponsor makes a hell of a mess.
Spot on. Nike was part of the dream Lerner sold us, then he gave up and dumped Macron onto us.
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Oh and if you read the last bit I in no way praised the other site. I do object to you implying I was doing that in anyway.
no wonder people are moving across to TBAR.
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I used that as an example nothing more nothing less, if this constitutes advertising or praising another site then I stand corrected I shall correct that comment for with and change it to "viewing other sites that maybe available". Is that better and more politically correct.
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I used that as an example nothing more nothing less, if this constitutes advertising or praising another site then I stand corrected I shall correct that comment for with and change it to "viewing other sites that maybe available". Is that better and more politically correct.
There's a bit of a difference between what you first said and what you're intending to change it to.
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Yes, Liverpool went from Adidas to Warrior without stopping at Macron. A song was recorded. Many candles were lit.
But they didn't go to Macron, which I've said many times it the cheapest tackiest excuse of a kit supplier in football. Oh and they didn't sell most of their best players either. In my opinion moving to Macron was part of Lerner's ongoing downgrading of the club and lowering of the expectations of the fans.
They may have worked their wonders on you, TV, but it didn't with me. It took you a long long time to realise the Villa didn't have genius plan with the "young and hungry" bullshit. In fact I think it was only relatively recently that you realised you fell for it lock stock and barrel.
what you seem to miss entirely is that it is possible to change your opinion as the circumstances change. I certainly don't see everything related to Aston Villa or Randy Lerner as shit as you do. So I'm not even close to having your opinion on that, and I would be confident in saying most people feel the same way. I would guess that most people on here can look at the situation somewhat rationally by identifying areas where things are bad and need improvement (i.e the manager, team etc), and where things are good, even great about the club. I am able to compartmentalize those things and I don't feel the need to hijack every thread turning it into another attack on the club.
I never bought into the "young and hungry" plan in its entirety. What I did buy into was giving the manager time to make his plan work, and allowing him time to evolve. Going into this season that seemed like a sane approach to take and my optimism was based on how things ended last year and started this. The manager has since disappointed me greatly in his approach but I would never say I had those feelings all along because that means I would never have given him a chance to prove himself. That I feel we need change is for a number of reasons, but I will go as far as to say that if he stays and he gets the right support from the new owner, I will be fully behind him again until such time it is not possible to do so.
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I used that as an example nothing more nothing less, if this constitutes advertising or praising another site then I stand corrected I shall correct that comment for with and change it to "viewing other sites that maybe available". Is that better and more politically correct.
There's a bit of a difference between what you first said and what you're intending to change it to.
So because I mentioned another site by name I am accused of advertising them, no actually you accused me of praising them. Yes I have been over there but am not interested 1 bit, it's a sad state of affairs when I've been registered on the site since 2009 and am accused of slagging you all off and am questioned because I don't post all the time. I'm sorry if this doesn't fit with convention but I'd rather not say anything than just spout off all the time.
I have a family I have a job and they are important to me, would you like me to commit to commenting 36 times per day ? I don't mind doing that but if you could pop into work for me and explain to the patients I'm treating that they will have to wait to be seen so I can fulfil my commenting contractual obligations with yourself that would be a great help.
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I used that as an example nothing more nothing less, if this constitutes advertising or praising another site then I stand corrected I shall correct that comment for with and change it to "viewing other sites that maybe available". Is that better and more politically correct.
There's a bit of a difference between what you first said and what you're intending to change it to.
So because I mentioned another site by name I am accused of advertising them, no actually you accused me of praising them. Yes I have been over there but am not interested 1 bit, it's a sad state of affairs when I've been registered on the site since 2009 and am accused of slagging you all off and am questioned because I don't post all the time. I'm sorry if this doesn't fit with convention but I'd rather not say anything than just spout off all the time.
I have a family I have a job and they are important to me, would you like me to commit to commenting 36 times per day ? I don't mind doing that but if you could pop into work for me and explain to the patients I'm treating that they will have to wait to be seen so I can fulfil my commenting contractual obligations with yourself that would be a great help.
And when you do have time to spare on here you go into a lengthy rant about how we moan too much and we're losing members to somewhere else. If that's not praise I don't know what it is, but never mind.
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At what point did I say that the other site was better in anyway, I have said in my past two posts I enjoy or used to enjoy here. So what if mine was a lengthy rant am I not entitled to write what I feel it was not a moan about all people it was a moan about a certain poster who has been at it all day but you have said nothing to the people who have been having a snipe back at him. You've just chosen to get your back up with me because I mentioned another site, for your information the reason I am writing now is that I am sitting at home waiting for my pager to go off so I can return to work and don't wish to fall asleep, not that it's any of your business when I post.
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At what point did I say that the other site was better in anyway, I have said in my past two posts I enjoy or used to enjoy here. So what if mine was a lengthy rant am I not entitled to write what I feel it was not a moan about all people it was a moan about a certain poster who has been at it all day but you have said nothing to the people who have been having a snipe back at him. You've just chosen to get your back up with me because I mentioned another site, for your information the reason I am writing now is that I am sitting at home waiting for my pager to go off so I can return to work and don't wish to fall asleep, not that it's any of your business when I post.
You're absolutely right about the reason I commented on your post. I'm pissed off with people who come on here saying how bad we are, how good somewhere else is then wonder why they don't get a particularly warm welcome.
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I've just had a yoghurt. I will get in to a slim fit shirt.
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Back on topic, I like them socks
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Dave as I said earlier I have never said a bad word about the site up until today and the comment was made regarding the poster who was on one about the club being shite, the kit makers cheap and tacky etc. I never even said a bad word about the printed publications bad typos or spelling mistakes back when you first started selling the real fanzine in the early 90s (feel free to correct me on my dates). But that is when I started reading the fanzine purchased from the seller by the church next to the badge men.
I never said the other site was better and we both know that other sites are available and have been for many years but I have grown up reading the fanzine and won't change because I don't want to or need too. My point was that the poster was using a kit release forum to moan about just about everything that he perceived to be wrong with the club and if we went back to the brand with the tick (see what I did there no advertising) everything would be great, I just didn't feel it warranted it that's all. Maybe it's something in the Tamworth air if I have caused the site and you specifically any offence I am man enough to apologise but I can assure you as long as you will have me I will stay on this site, I may not post much but I don't want to or feel the need to. I do however like the kit which I believe is and was the point of the thread.
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I do however like the kit which I believe is and was the point of the thread.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
It's the going bonkers at people who don't like it that is a bit odd.
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Fucks sake it's only a kit stroke strip. Not worth melting the keyboard over.
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Indeed.
And the kit is going to be nowhere as displeasing as the useless bozos who will be wearing it next season.
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In fairness to Bodkins, he was only getting riled up by arch doom-merchant Saunders Heroes, as a few of us are from time to time, I don't think he deserves lynching.
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Nobody was preparing any lynchings.
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Oh, ok.
What am I gonna do with this rope I've just bought then?
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Indeed.
And the kit is going to be nowhere as displeasing as the useless bozos who will be wearing it next season.
You won't be saying that when we get taken over and the new owner brings Simeone and let's him spend £300m on Ronaldo, Messi and Costa.
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I couldn't really enjoy watching Ronaldo, Messi and Costa playing for us. Not in a fucking Macron shirt.
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Cheers cdbullyweefan in that comment you summed my feelings up we have had to put up with the following tripe all day and I was fed up with it.
And now we've got a shit squad, a shit chairman, and a shit kit to match.
I never intended to praise any other sites don't want to don't need to and I certainly never went bonkers at everyone else who didn't like the kit as this is down to personal choice but the shit squad, shit chairman etc just wasn't called for on this thread.
As I said in an earlier post the club did what was right at the time, most money etc, it just grates that some people think that anything with a tick was superior it wasn't and as a company the way the fans and club where treated by n##e was nothing but shoddy.
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Indeed.
And the kit is going to be nowhere as displeasing as the useless bozos who will be wearing it next season.
You won't be saying that when we get taken over and the new owner brings Simeone and let's him spend £300m on Ronaldo, Messi and Costa.
We'll ditch Macron on the spot, though, and appoint Stella McCartney to design us something made of gold.
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Indeed.
And the kit is going to be nowhere as displeasing as the useless bozos who will be wearing it next season.
You won't be saying that when we get taken over and the new owner brings Simeone and let's him spend £300m on Ronaldo, Messi and Costa.
We'll ditch Macron on the spot, though, and appoint Stella McCartney to design us something made of gold.
Does her stuff come with a little tick on it
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We were promised new dawns, blue skies and bearded, magnificently bottomed gods of Olympus.
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/87/30/0,,10265~12857479,00.jpg) (http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/7f/30/0,,10265~12857471,00.jpg)
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Nice shirt... but the sponsor was even worse than Dafabet! I don't remember it having all the little clubs and stuff on it!
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I couldn't really enjoy watching Ronaldo, Messi and Costa playing for us. Not in a fucking Macron shirt.
Who needs that lot in a Macron shirt when we've got Westwood, KEA and Bowery!
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I couldn't really enjoy watching Ronaldo, Messi and Costa playing for us. Not in a fucking Macron shirt.
Who needs that lot in a Macron shirt when we've got Westwood, KEA and Bowery!
Glad you're finally seeing some sense. I reckon Messi might do a job as a squad player though.
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Don't like pinstripes.
There, said it.
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I hate the macron quality, designs and the silly men on the shoulders. I am a miserable old git though so just ignore me.
I don't get why they put those shitty Macron men on their shirts. Everyone hates them.
I think they have nice ideas generally but need to stop overdoing things.
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Indeed.
And the kit is going to be nowhere as displeasing as the useless bozos who will be wearing it next season.
You won't be saying that when we get taken over and the new owner brings Simeone and let's him spend £300m on Ronaldo, Messi and Costa.
We'll ditch Macron on the spot, though, and appoint Stella McCartney to design us something made of gold.
Does her stuff come with a little tick on it
They call it a swoosh...
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I hate the macron quality, designs and the silly men on the shoulders. I am a miserable old git though so just ignore me.
I don't get why they put those shitty Macron men on their shirts. Everyone hates them.
I think they have nice ideas generally but need to stop overdoing things.
They would look better and stand out if they were lower on the sleeve (in the position where the PL logo is stitched on).
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I like it, the collar is great and the stripes are nice touch. Simple but good. When's the away kit launch?...
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I like it, the collar is great and the stripes are nice touch. Simple but good. When's the away kit launch?...
VC, I'll be out your way in a couple of weeks. Pint maybe?
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How does it wash?
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I like it, the collar is great and the stripes are nice touch. Simple but good. When's the away kit launch?...
VC, I'll be out your way in a couple of weeks. Pint maybe?
Absolutely TV just let me know. Maybe a caps game too, I know you can't wait to see our Nige in the flesh!! He's like Cafu now at right back ;)
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I like it - right colour body, right colour sleeves, quite like the pinstripes too.
Instantly recognisable as the mighty Villa - can't complain about that.
How come we don't have a poll on this thread..?
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Anyone knows a good place to order a shirt for me and my son? (free delivery preferred, as companies normally do silly rates for shipment to the Faroes)
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We gonna have a poll?
Is this Thread Sufficiently Homoerotic?
o Yes
o No
o Roy fucking Keane ???????
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Anyone knows a good place to order a shirt for me and my son? (free delivery preferred, as companies normally do silly rates for shipment to the Faroes)
The online store does free delivery worldwide for orders over £100, two shirts is getting on for that.
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Oh and if you read the last bit I in no way praised the other site. I do object to you implying I was doing that in anyway.
no wonder people are moving across to TBAR.
To be fair you should have just sent him a PM and discussed it there, instead I have to trawl through a few pages of you two trying to prove each other wrong in-between very little discussion of the actual topic. "You were advertising", "No I wasn't", "here is proof"... You almost validated his point.
As for the kit I don't like it at all, didn't like last years either. I remember their huge build, the video praising our history and saying they are taking it all into account... then release a terrible kit. This kit is shit too but what can you do, we have much bigger problems. Now does anyone have a link to the away kit or do I have to to go T.... I joke.
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I do not like too much the new kit, but it was difficult to beat the beautiful effort of last season. I would have liked it for at least two years.
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Oh, ok.
What am I gonna do with this rope I've just bought then?
Get yourself an orange and enjoy yourself.
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Don't be so disgusting!
I hate fruit!
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How does it wash?
Anything above a 45c wash you are looking at big problems
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How does it wash?
Anything above a 45c wash you are looking at big problems
Don't even mention the spin cycle setting.
Best not to wash it all, just wear it to the games and let the rain do its inexorable work.
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I like it, the collar is great and the stripes are nice touch. Simple but good. When's the away kit launch?...
VC, I'll be out your way in a couple of weeks. Pint maybe?
Absolutely TV just let me know. Maybe a caps game too, I know you can't wait to see our Nige in the flesh!! He's like Cafu now at right back ;)
Mate, sent you a PM, but will be out there 16th to 18th. Looking forward to it
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Indeed.
And the kit is going to be nowhere as displeasing as the useless bozos who will be wearing it next season.
You won't be saying that when we get taken over and the new owner brings Simeone and let's him spend £300m on Ronaldo, Messi and Costa.
We'll ditch Macron on the spot, though, and appoint Stella McCartney to design us something made of gold.
Does her stuff come with a little tick on it
They call it a swoosh...
There's only a hole for one leg in the shorts.
Shit, that was the other one wasn't it?
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How does it wash?
Anything above a 45c wash you are looking at big problems
Don't even mention the spin cycle setting.
Best not to wash it all, just wear it to the games and let the rain do its inexorable work.
And the tears...
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
I agree. The other day, I thought it looked pretty good. Now I'm veering towards it being shit.
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
Just what I was thinking. It just doesn't look right.
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Saying it's the nastiest looking kit we've ever had is plain crazy in my opinion. That revolting one that S***e H***e wore for us will never be beaten. I hope.
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
I agree. It's atrocious, but still better than season.
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
I agree. The other day, I thought it looked pretty good. Now I'm veering towards it being shit.
I agree.
I thought it looked ok, but looking at it here, it looks truly horrible. Like a pyjama top or something:
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/7d/9a/0,,10265~12884605,00.jpg)
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I don't think it is that bad. I also think if it was being worn by a better player it would look better.
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I don't think it is that bad. I also think if it was being worn by a better player it would look better.
I don't even know if that would improve it much.
Why do we always get these overly fussy designs from Macron? Look at their Lazio kits - nice, simple, clean. Same with their Napoli ones.
Ours always seem to be too fussy in one way or another.
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So, what y'all're sayin is
Pin Stripes + Swirly Bits + Grand Dad Collar + Cowardly Lion + Baldy Beardy = Cack Kit Clusterfuck?
Way harsh
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It takes some doing to make a top look shite on a professional athlete.
But Macron seem to be able to do it time and again.
Dreadful.
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I don't think it is that bad. I also think if it was being worn by a better player it would look better.
I don't even know if that would improve it much.
Why do we always get these overly fussy designs from Macron? Look at their Lazio kits - nice, simple, clean. Same with their Napoli ones.
Ours always seem to be too fussy in one way or another.
Yes - nice and simple
(http://lghttp.18869.nexcesscdn.net/809230/macron/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/490x490/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/8/58057607.JPG)
(http://lghttp.18869.nexcesscdn.net/809230/macron/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/490x490/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/5/8/58059603.jpg)
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Hadn't seen those! The home kits are though.
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Those kits look like Tommy Johnson's thrown up over them. And that rag Senderos is wearing - and the tracky top he's wearing in another photo reminds me of a bad acid trip
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On the positive side - those kits wouldn't clash with many other teams...and they might sneak behind the defense with the les colorful one
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
I agree. The other day, I thought it looked pretty good. Now I'm veering towards it being shit.
I agree.
I thought it looked ok, but looking at it here, it looks truly horrible. Like a pyjama top or something:
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/7d/9a/0,,10265~12884605,00.jpg)
Absolutely awful, the kits seem to get wore every year. There seems to be a direct correlation betweem our kit and our team, we are in for another shit season. That kit belongs in League 2
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Just looking at Senderos in the new Villa shirt and it's as bad as I thought it would be. Possibly the cheapest, nastiest looking kit I've ever seen at Villa.
I agree. The other day, I thought it looked pretty good. Now I'm veering towards it being shit.
I agree.
I thought it looked ok, but looking at it here, it looks truly horrible. Like a pyjama top or something:
(http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/7d/9a/0,,10265~12884605,00.jpg)
Absolutely awful, the kits seem to get wore every year. There seems to be a direct correlation betweem our kit and our team, we are in for another shit season. That kit belongs in League 2
Nice to see you back on form.
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Dave Thanks, Do you like the New Kit?
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Dave Thanks, Do you like the New Kit?
Not particularly, as I've said before.
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(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/kit_launc_hpt_2_main_banner_away_tease.jpg)
Looking forward to seeing it. Gonna be a belter 8)
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A cheap and nasty looking shirt in my opinion.
Certainly looks something that would be more aptly worn by the likes of Scunthorpe. I was going to say Burnley as well but to be fair the shirt they wore to celebrate the 100th anniversary of their FA Cup win is far more like the kind of thing fitting for a great club like ours.
I agree also with those who've mentioned the colour, it isn't claret and it shouldn't be too much to ask whoever is responsible these days to get such basic things right.
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Is it me or have our famous colours been seriously diluted over the years? If that's claret, it's not the claret we used to wear in the 1970s. We're more a dark pink now.
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Is it me or have our famous colours been seriously diluted over the years? If that's claret, it's not the claret we used to wear in the 1970s. We're more a dark pink now.
I think we can all agree on one thing. That colour is not claret! Our colours, as I understand it, are claret and light blue.
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Let's hope this season is the last time we have to endure such bloody awful kit designs and find a supplier with a proper pantone palette.
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No, it's not good. Me and our dad have a tradition of being each other the new shirt every season for ourt birthdays (both in September). I really don't want that one. May have to break the tradition this year.
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Not overly fussed about the kit, I want the team to be good. The only issue I have with this year is that with the sponsor and stripes it looks busy and complicated. If the sponsor was just the logo it would look better.
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Don't like it at all especially the collar and the strange little V neck detail.
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Away kit is supposed to be white all over with claret pinstripes. Might look good spending on the naff collar? Certainly nowhere near claret as mentioned before. First macron wasn't too bad.
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Away kit - http://shop.avfc.co.uk/kits/away-kits/index.html
(http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/64/43tr.jpg)
They really have messed up with the claret this year. Let's hope it looks better in person.
Nice touch on the back though, old round badge
(http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/4595/v6jwh.jpg)
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Legends of 82 to hand deliver your Away Shirt
To celebrate the launch of the new Aston Villa Away Kit 2014-15, Ten of the stars from Villa's 1982 European Cup winning team will be joining forces with our couriers to hand deliver over 100 new shirts.
To have a chance of a Villa Euro hero delivering to you, simply preorder the new away shirt before Tuesday 8th July. Terms and conditions apply.
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BprZX7WIQAAf6Zt.jpg)
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I prefer the away top to the home. Shame they can't just put the old badge in its rightful place on the front, mind.
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I don't like that the away kit has the same collar as the home one from this year
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I don't like that the away kit has the same collar as the home one from this year
Not a fan of the home shirt but I think the away is one of the best in a very long time.
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Significantly better than the home one, although, once again, overly fussy on the collar which lets it down.
It would be miles better without that extra detail.
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Far better than the home kit, but I wish they'd get the claret right. It can't be too much to ask, surely?
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Looks good to me. Would be better with the badge in the middle but I guess that world only work if they got rid of the circley bit on the sponsor which I guess Dafabet wouldn't agree to.
Not sure about the collar but youth fashions are lost on me. Overall a good effort.
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Nice (if optimistic) homage to the Holy Shirt of 82, and so much better than last season's Battenberg monstrosity, but that collar is fussy and I never like the claret shorts.
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Something has gone seriously wrong again this year with the kit designs. Dreadful styling, incorrect colours. Do they throw the designs together over lunch break whilst doing Italian kits ?
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I like it, but ultimately I don't really care as long as they win.
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Looks alright to me. Comes to something when over the last few years i've preferred our aways to the home shirts.
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prefer the second by far , but please claret and a bonus old badge in the middle and it would be pretty awesome then.
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Very nice.
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there is too much sponsor that takes away from the overall design. It should either be the sponsor name or logo, not both and when put on top of stripes looks too busy. Overall it's not bad though
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Its amazing how they get the napoli kit looking so bloody awesome and we have the most beautiful colours in the football world , yet they struggle to get the home kit right.
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Its amazing how they get the napoli kit looking so bloody awesome and we have the most beautiful colours in the football world , yet they struggle to get the home kit right.
Awesome you say?
(http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Napoli4-2014.jpg)
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the Napoli kit looks hideous with that sponsor all over it and would look even worse if it has two colours as we do. Also, isn't one of their kits a camouflage type thing, or was that last year?
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Its amazing how they get the napoli kit looking so bloody awesome and we have the most beautiful colours in the football world , yet they struggle to get the home kit right.
Awesome you say?
(http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Napoli4-2014.jpg)
Yep, that's fucking dire. I thought there was a green/grey and black one too
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Not bad if you are going on army maneuvers after the game.
(http://www.footballkitnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Hamsik-Napoli-Camo-Shirt-2013-2014.jpg)
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I love it.
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blimey, that's the one. Maybe we should have that and if we are losing 1-0 late we can just shoot the opposition to create an unfair advantage.
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Home kit, bag of shit. Away kit, I really like, I've always liked when our away tops have been white though.
When Randy fucks off can we have our badge back?
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Home kit, bag of shit. Away kit, I really like, I've always liked when our away tops have been white though.
When Randy fucks off can we have our badge back?
so which badge is that then?
Villa crests over the years (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/HistoryKits)
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"I know there's no Villa matches to moan at let's all have a go at the new kit!"
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I love the away kit looks really smart I like our away kit to be white.
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I love the away kit looks really smart I like our away kit to be white.
White white or white with stripes white?
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Its amazing how they get the napoli kit looking so bloody awesome and we have the most beautiful colours in the football world , yet they struggle to get the home kit right.
Awesome you say?
(http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Napoli4-2014.jpg)
Yep, that's fucking dire. I thought there was a green/grey and black one too
Anyone ever remember the Kit Editor on International Superstar Soccer Deluxe? I recall every attempt at editing a kit looking like a complete and utter mess, not unlike Napoli's new kit. A bit like spilling a few paint pots on the floor.
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Home kit, bag of shit. Away kit, I really like, I've always liked when our away tops have been white though.
When Randy fucks off can we have our badge back?
so which badge is that then?
Villa crests over the years (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/HistoryKits)
Being part Scottish, the first badge would be cool as it looks more like the traditional lion rampant. The circular badge is the one I think of as the "proper" Villa badge though.
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I reckon the away kit is the best we've had since I was a kid in the 80's. The home shirt isn't bad either
Bravo Macron
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in the youtube vide the way kit looks very smart. Like the gold lions on the socks
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Both very nice kits. Well done.
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Is this the last year of macron ?
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Is this the last year of macron ?
15/16 will be their last season.
Love both the kits though. Proper smart...
...at least something will look good on the pitch this season.
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For me that is the smartest looking Villa away kit ever - it would be perfect without a sponsor's logo, or with Acorns on it.
Anyone older or fatter than the players should not wear a replica football shirt though, so I won't be buying one as I fail in both respects.
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Both shirts look very good, it's gonna be a flip of a coin as to which one i buy first.
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For me that is the smartest looking Villa away kit ever - it would be perfect without a sponsor's logo, or with Acorns on it.
Anyone older or fatter than the players should not wear a replica football shirt though, so I won't be buying one as I fail in both respects.
(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/380x905_fitbox-aston_villa_junior_away_kit_replica_shirt_2014_15_c13002107_h2.jpg)
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Its amazing how they get the napoli kit looking so bloody awesome and we have the most beautiful colours in the football world , yet they struggle to get the home kit right.
Awesome you say?
Awesome you say?
(http://www.football-shirts.co.uk/fans/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Napoli4-2014.jpg)
well I like this one
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/lemsta007/cavani_zps39e6e3b3.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/lemsta007/media/cavani_zps39e6e3b3.jpg.html)
and Lazio's too
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb411/lemsta007/lazio-fc-away-2013-14-soccer-jersey-900x900_zps246dab66.jpg) (http://s1204.photobucket.com/user/lemsta007/media/lazio-fc-away-2013-14-soccer-jersey-900x900_zps246dab66.jpg.html)
mind , ours might look better with Cavani in it
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The above image ^ ^ shows once you remove the sponsor any shirt immediately looks x 10 better immediately without any other tinkering
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Great away kit - best in a long time.
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Home kit, bag of shit. Away kit, I really like, I've always liked when our away tops have been white though.
When Randy fucks off can we have our badge back?
so which badge is that then?
Villa crests over the years (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/HistoryKits)
Any one one that isn't watery pastel colours.
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Nice away kit, I really do like it but I prefer the sky blue pinstripe one we wore in the 5-1 vs Blues season. Hopefully we wont wear claret shorts with the home top this season in some home games, I much prefer it if we wear blue shorts with the home kit if there is a shorts clash away from home.
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Home kit, bag of shit. Away kit, I really like, I've always liked when our away tops have been white though.
When Randy fucks off can we have our badge back?
so which badge is that then?
Villa crests over the years (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/HistoryKits)
Any one one that isn't watery pastel colours.
so the 3rd and 4th are out then as would be the beautiful one on the Holte. Truth is you are never going to get universal approval.
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For me that is the smartest looking Villa away kit ever - it would be perfect without a sponsor's logo, or with Acorns on it.
Anyone older or fatter than the players should not wear a replica football shirt though, so I won't be buying one as I fail in both respects.
(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/380x905_fitbox-aston_villa_junior_away_kit_replica_shirt_2014_15_c13002107_h2.jpg)
That'll do. If Photoshop could take a few years and pounds off me as easily I'd even wear that.
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Best shirt (Home or Away) for years. The simple unfussy designs are always the best.
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I like the away one. Certainly a vast improvement on the abomination of last season, and the lime green from the year before. I prefer it to the Home kit anyway. That said on both counts, its the best we've had from Macron.
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I;m not going to like it until Saunders Heroes tells me I can.
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I did a straw poll in the David Heath Suite at Edgbaston while rain had stopped play and the general response to the away strip was positive, but a few cantankerous codgers muttered that we would be relegated for sure next season if we keep buying has beens, never beens and might have beens that would never amount to a hill of beans.
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I;m not going to like it until Saunders Heroes tells me I can.
You can like the away one but the home one is as tacky as shite.
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I;m not going to like it until Saunders Heroes tells me I can.
You can like the away one but the home one is as tacky as shite.
Ok. So,
Away good
But everybody's bum looks big in the Home version.
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Actually that aint bad.
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I like them both.....away just shading the home kit....
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I;m not going to like it until Saunders Heroes tells me I can.
You can like the away one but the home one is as tacky as shite.
Ok. So,
Away good
But everybody's bum looks big in the Home version.
Almost.
Everyone's bum looks like they've just shat themselves in the home version.
*nods*
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I;m not going to like it until Saunders Heroes tells me I can.
You can like the away one but the home one is as tacky as shite.
Ok. So,
Away good
But everybody's bum looks big in the Home version.
Almost.
Everyone's bum looks like they've just shat themselves in the home version.
*nods*
Hmmm. Not a good look, really, no matter how creatively the players accessorise to draw the eye away from the problem area.
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OK away kit, not sure about the collars though. Still, it shits all over the home shirt
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Went into the club shop in town and they were putting out some of the new merchandise.
I quite like these.
(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/380x450_fitbox-c13002138_h.jpg)(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/380x450_fitbox-c13002140_h.jpg)
I know it's a keeper one, but wasn't keen on this.
(http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/380x450_fitbox-c13002145_h1.jpg)
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Is the last one made for Roy Keane?
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Good to see macron knocking out the usual tatt.
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Good to see macron knocking out the usual tatt.
Oh good, true to form. At least you're consistent.
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Of course if it had a tick on the chest or three white stripes down the sleeves it'd be the best in the world.
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I know cack when I see it TLP and the latest batch of Macron clothing is cack, with the new away shirt being the only decent looking top. Simple designs always look better in my opinion. But, I get the feeling that Macron could produce a hessian sack with sleeves & a Villa badge on it and people would still rush out to spend £45+ on it. So what do I know?
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If you don't like the new kit, you could turn up at VP wearing one of these creations:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2658398/Billowing-capes-onesies-bodycon-dresses-BOYS-Models-hit-runway-London-Collections-Men-gets-underway.html
I have not the words.
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If you don't like the new kit, you could turn up at VP wearing one of these creations:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2658398/Billowing-capes-onesies-bodycon-dresses-BOYS-Models-hit-runway-London-Collections-Men-gets-underway.html
I have not the words.
I hope that amongst all of the adults cheering nervously there was a little boy in the audience who pointed and shouted out "that's really complete bollocks!"
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I know cack when I see it TLP and the latest batch of Macron clothing is cack, with the new away shirt being the only decent looking top. Simple designs always look better in my opinion. But, I get the feeling that Macron could produce a hessian sack with sleeves & a Villa badge on it and people would still rush out to spend £45+ on it. So what do I know?
last season's macron shirt was like a hessian sack. It looked ok, if a bit busy round the collar and shoulders, but the thing that lets them down is the quality of the material. Not as bad as the later Nike ones, but for me, not a patch on the Hummel ones we had a few years back and the last diadora one was good too, I've still got the Hummel and diadora shirts and they're good as new.
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If you don't like the new kit, you could turn up at VP wearing one of these creations:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2658398/Billowing-capes-onesies-bodycon-dresses-BOYS-Models-hit-runway-London-Collections-Men-gets-underway.html
I have not the words.
I hope that amongst all of the adults cheering nervously there was a little boy in the audience who pointed and shouted out "that's really complete bollocks!"
I can see Roy rocking the black hat feathers and mac in a diva moment in the dugout, around December.
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Tried a XXXL and it was still too small
Either I have turned into the Hulk or XXXL isnt what it used to be
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Delighted the Macron men have been removed. They look like those symbols of the fellas on 'Careful, slippy floor' signs.
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any garments without the club sponsor or kit manufacturer on it?
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any garments without the club sponsor or kit manufacturer on it?
I purchased one of these last week. http://shop.avfc.co.uk/shop/aston-villa-essential-polo-black/index.html
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Delighted the Macron men have been removed. They look like those symbols of the fellas on 'Careful, slippy floor' signs.
I think that they are still lurking, on top of the shoulders.
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Delighted the Macron men have been removed. They look like those symbols of the fellas on 'Careful, slippy floor' signs.
I think that they are still lurking, on top of the shoulders.
Put the top through a 60c wash cycle . That should get rid of the little buggers.
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Has anyone got one of our away shirts yet then?
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Has anyone got one of our away shirts yet then?
Expecting it was a birthday present (end of August).
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If you don't like the new kit, you could turn up at VP wearing one of these creations:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2658398/Billowing-capes-onesies-bodycon-dresses-BOYS-Models-hit-runway-London-Collections-Men-gets-underway.html
I have not the words.
I hope that amongst all of the adults cheering nervously there was a little boy in the audience who pointed and shouted out "that's really complete bollocks!"
I can see Roy rocking the black hat feathers and mac in a diva moment in the dugout, around December.
Unless you were a complete bell end, why would you wear that?
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If you don't like the new kit, you could turn up at VP wearing one of these creations:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2658398/Billowing-capes-onesies-bodycon-dresses-BOYS-Models-hit-runway-London-Collections-Men-gets-underway.html
I have not the words.
I hope that amongst all of the adults cheering nervously there was a little boy in the audience who pointed and shouted out "that's really complete bollocks!"
I can see Roy rocking the black hat feathers and mac in a diva moment in the dugout, around December.
Unless you were a complete bell end, why would you wear that?
Surely you liked some of them, maybe the Navajo inspired ensemble?
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Was in the shop in town Saturday. Macron men are on the home shirt in the usual place. As they didn't have any of the away shirt in i'm assuming it's still on pre-order.
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From what I understand the away shirt goes on sale in July, I think it's the weekend of 12/13th.
I may have misunderstood but I think some of the boys of '82 are involved in the launch weekend. I'll check with my source and let you know.
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From what I understand the away shirt goes on sale in July, I think it's the weekend of 12/13th.
I may have misunderstood but I think some of the boys of '82 are involved in the launch weekend. I'll check with my source and let you know.
Yeah this is true. I think it's the first 100 pre orders only.
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From what I understand the away shirt goes on sale in July, I think it's the weekend of 12/13th.
I may have misunderstood but I think some of the boys of '82 are involved in the launch weekend. I'll check with my source and let you know.
Yeah this is true. I think it's the first 100 pre orders only.
Met up with the young Mr. Shaw today and he confirmed that Ken McNaught is arranging for some of the '82 lads to be at the Villa store on launch day, but he thinks I may have the wrong date. He's going to get back to me on it.
Hopefully the OS will publish details soon.
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So Leeds United get away without having those shite Macron men on their shoulders, but we have to have them? http://goo.gl/qVnoum
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So Leeds United get away without having those shite Macron men on their shoulders, but we have to have them? http://goo.gl/qVnoum
They are on there but are white. Look closely.
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Good spot! Ignore me
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910834 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910834)St. Mirren's nasty migraine inducing effort
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910834)
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its in there somewhere...
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910834 (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910834)St. Mirren's nasty migraine inducing effort
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/picturegalleries/10827377/Premier-League-and-European-new-kits-2014-15-in-pictures.html?frame=2910834)
The Ajax kit design would look great in claret and blue.
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Interesting the best looking kits are the ones without the sponsors name on - Roma , lazio, millwall.
Newcastle are down with that kit.
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You can't really get Newcastle wrong, although they always seem to introduce horrid away tops and this year is no different.
The nicest tops there are Roma and Monaco, they're still both scummy clubs though.
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Roma and Monaco's are nicest as they don't have sponsors. Or at least they aren't on the shirts yet. Plus I love a collar. 8)
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The away shirt's on sale now. I look forward to picking one up for a fiver in about 10 months.
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Warrior didn't have any kind of profile for football kit designs before they got the Liverpool contract, but they seem to be able to deliver simple, uncluttered designs easily. Most of those Puma kits look good too. Would prefer both over Macron. Our iffy sponsor doesn't help, mind.
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Warrior didn't have any kind of profile for football kit designs before they got the Liverpool contract, but they seem to be able to deliver simple, uncluttered designs easily. Most of those Puma kits look good too. Would prefer both over Macron. Our iffy sponsor doesn't help, mind.
uncluttered? You did see last years Liverpool away right?
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Away kits have a bit more scope to me loud. None of their home shirts in the last few years look like they have been thrown together by a toddler on LSD. The biggest club on the books often gets preferential treatment, but Stoke's home kit this year looks OK too.
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Had a look at the away shirt in the shop in town, looks quite nice. Still not sure on the home. Don't think i'll be forking out £48/52 for either, although plenty were.
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Warrior didn't have any kind of profile for football kit designs before they got the Liverpool contract, but they seem to be able to deliver simple, uncluttered designs easily. Most of those Puma kits look good too. Would prefer both over Macron. Our iffy sponsor doesn't help, mind.
uncluttered? You did see last years Liverpool away right?
This years Liverpool third kit also comes with a health warning.
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Did anyone get their away kit delivered by an '82 legend today?
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Did anyone get their away kit delivered by an '82 legend today?
I was at a friend's house when Sid Cowans turned up. What a nice guy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsa_P_oCAAImEOv.jpg
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"The Perfect Sunday" (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3990641,00.html)
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well done the club for this. It's not every day a legend of the club you love shows up at your doorstep. I hope everyone who got a visit enjoyed the experience.
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Loved the pictures if Gary Shaw taking some penalties with a young lad in his back garden. Lovely stuff!
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They used DPD as well. They are a superb outfit.
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well done to the Villa for this
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A simple but quite brilliant bit of PR by the club, marvellous.
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Did anyone get their away kit delivered by an '82 legend today?
I was at a friend's house when Sid Cowans turned up. What a nice guy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsa_P_oCAAImEOv.jpg
Great pic, reminds me of what supporting my beloved club is all about. Did you all happen to have your Villa shirts on? Love to see the kids in them
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Man United just signed a £750m kit deal with adidas.
Mind boggling!!
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Man United just signed a £750m kit deal with adidas.
Mind boggling!!
add that to the £53 mil they get from Chervolet from shirt sponsorship and they are on another planet for income.
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Did anyone get their away kit delivered by an '82 legend today?
I was at a friend's house when Sid Cowans turned up. What a nice guy.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bsa_P_oCAAImEOv.jpg
Great pic, reminds me of what supporting my beloved club is all about. Did you all happen to have your Villa shirts on? Love to see the kids in them
? We had them on because we knew a Villa legend was coming to the house with the AVTV cameras and didn't want to let the side down.
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Ah, thank you Dick and apologies, I didn't realise you all knew in advance he was coming. Which it was obvious you would when you stop to think about it
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yeah it'd quite funny if a legend turned up and no-one was home.
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has anybody seen this bizarre effort from Blackburn Rovers ?
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Very bizarre. I can't see anything.
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sorry about that Pete........to summarise...a half naked old man gets ready in a bathroom to Barry White's "I'm gonna love ya just a little more", He ends up getting a Blackburn Rovers shirt from the club shop.
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sorry about that Pete........to summarise...a half naked old man gets ready in a bathroom to Barry White's "I'm gonna love ya just a little more", He ends up getting a Blackburn Rovers shirt from the club shop.
I was more disturbed that they seem to be wearing light blue, instead of their proper blue colour. Their equivalent of Saunders Heroes must have been tearing his hair out.
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Slightly off topic I know, but I really hope that when the takeover finally happens that we ditch the current crest. I really don't like it, and for that matter the last one of the Ellis years was bloody awful too. I know a new owner will want to put their own stamp on things, but for me I like the round badge of the 70s and 80s, but also think the badge on the early 70s top with the blue lion and AV under it is a thing of beauty. Just saying!
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I agree, the current one is horrible, and I agree the round one is the best, but I can also see how it wouldn't mean anything to lots of people (ie those too young to remember that era).
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I know it's all about opinions, but the new one is horrid in every shape and form, and the Ellis one is just tacky. I started going to the Villa in the late 70s, so the early 70s badge is a bit too early for me to remember, but it's so nice. It's beauty is it's simplicity. Less is more.
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I agree, the current one is horrible, and I agree the round one is the best, but I can also see how it wouldn't mean anything to lots of people (ie those too young to remember that era).
And you'd be right. The oldest crest that I can actually remember was the one before last, and its a toss-up between that and the current one for the one I like best.
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Plenty of pictures of all the club badges on the internet. I agree with both of you. The current one is dreadful. Looks washed out and is far too big. The round one was by far the best design.
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In the old days, we didn't care about brands, we just wanted the kit-regardless who made it
http://gotnotgot.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/admiral-superteam.jpg
From the gotnotot site
Until
http://gotnotgot.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/umbro-kids.jpg
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Lazio have a new macron kit, claret and blue away too!
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Lazio have a new macron kit, claret and blue away too!
Archie will be pleased.
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Surely Blackshirts would be a better option for Lazio?
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Plenty of pictures of all the club badges on the internet. I agree with both of you. The current one is dreadful. Looks washed out and is far too big. The round one was by far the best design.
I don't mind it. It's better than the previous two. The 70's/80's one is OK but too many clubs have the circular shield with a lion in it.
I think an embroidered yellow/gold lion would be decent.
http://d2hatremgvh27k.cloudfront.net/cms_media/images/920x2191_fitbox-aston_villa_home_kit_replica_shirt_2014_15_adult_c13002098_51.jpg
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Lazio have a new macron kit, claret and blue away too!
Archie will be pleased.
Spooky, my 2 year old is called Archie and I thought how does ADVILLAFAN know this... I forgot about our Italian Archie ;)
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Just been watching West fat spam.the addidas kit they have got is terrible.More white lines than a catwalk model's dressing room.
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I agree on West Ham.
Scunthorpe's new Nike kit looks familiar:-
(http://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/cms_images/player/sc-400x30070-1653341_478x359.jpg)
Burnley's Puma effort isn't too bad:-
(http://images.scribblelive.com/2014/6/30/edd88cba-fef2-4385-ba11-12ed45e3a1cd_800.jpg)
I think we can all agree that kits look better without the sponsor's logo.
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Burnley always seem to get our kits right, West Ham always fuck them up.
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I like the claret polo's that some of the players have been wearing.
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That Scunthorpe one looks alright.
As an aside, wasn't part of the reasoning behind the Macron deal this notion that we would be one of the biggest names on their books and would get preferential treatment?
We don't seem to exist, according to their website: http://www.macron.com/shop/uk/en/football.html
Napoli, Lazio, Bologna, Monaco, Hadjuk Split and even titans such as Foggia and Adaccio all mentioned, but no Villa.
Odd. Though maybe we have some deal where we only sell our merchandise through the clubs own website.
The Hadjuk kit looks alright there, and they always seem to turn out reasonable efforts for Napoli and Lazio. Which makes me think the problem might be at our end. Admittedly I'm no expert in the design process, but isn't it usually standard that 3 to 4 designs are submitted and the club then has to select one? In which case, some jobsworth at our end is simply going "Yeah, that will do" to any old tat. Looking at the other kits there, the Macron men, crap collars and other jizz don't seem to be compulsory.
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that's last year's stuff isn't it?
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Why the f@ck couldn't Nike do something like that for us? Their last couple of kits were shocking.
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Lazio have a new macron kit, claret and blue away too!
Archie will be pleased.
Spooky, my 2 year old is called Archie and I thought how does ADVILLAFAN know this... I forgot about our Italian Archie ;)
Did you ever see that film one hour photo?
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Could be worse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/worst-kits-in-sport-spanish-side-release-tuxedostyle-home-kit-9623670.html
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Could be worse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/worst-kits-in-sport-spanish-side-release-tuxedostyle-home-kit-9623670.html
If I was a player I'd refuse to wear that. I know it's not all about the kit when you play but how does that inspire any confidence knowing when you go out pretty much everyone else is taking the piss? And some of those others are top notch too. The beer one and the peas. Fuck me, I hope all of those execs who agreed to that are now wearing concrete boots.
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Could be worse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/worst-kits-in-sport-spanish-side-release-tuxedostyle-home-kit-9623670.html
If I was a player I'd refuse to wear that. I know it's not all about the kit when you play but how does that inspire any confidence knowing when you go out pretty much everyone else is taking the piss? And some of those others are top notch too. The beer one and the peas. Fuck me, I hope all of those execs who agreed to that are now wearing concrete boots.
They look like some of these rugby 7s shirts
http://www.lovell-rugby.co.uk/shop/International/Other-International#sort=name,page=all
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Could be worse.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/worst-kits-in-sport-spanish-side-release-tuxedostyle-home-kit-9623670.html
If I was a player I'd refuse to wear that. I know it's not all about the kit when you play but how does that inspire any confidence knowing when you go out pretty much everyone else is taking the piss? And some of those others are top notch too. The beer one and the peas. Fuck me, I hope all of those execs who agreed to that are now wearing concrete boots.
that tux kit is classic, what a shocker. Still laughing now! How do you get to the point where it's thought of as a good idea and yes we'll have it for our strip next season? Even a cooling off period on the contract would usually see something like that shelved.
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Looks like the rugby shirts have inspired another Spanish side - Beer and an octopus for CD Lugo
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/22/1406051281647_wps_5_CD_Lugo_Twitter_CDeportiv.jpg)
If this was Villa, would it be Ansells and an HP sauce bottle?
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New Squeezy Cheezy Peas proud to sponsor these fellas:
(http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article9623560.ece/alternates/w1024/shit-kits-2.jpg)
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Just bought the new away shirt this morning. The best fitting Villa shirt I've ever owned! The cut is much better
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What the...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11096585/Colombian-women-cycling-team-kit-Vagina-like.html