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Title: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
From 4.45pm.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2013, 04:48:50 PM
Fucking get in.

That three minutes will be the three minutes that keep us up.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on April 06, 2013, 04:51:15 PM
Yes. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Nii Lamptey on April 06, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
Cracking result.. Hope that team along with their shite football go down.  Well done Villa!    :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mikeb1982 on April 06, 2013, 04:52:40 PM
And breathe. We'll stay up now, we showed some good bottle when we would normally have collapsed and lost.

And we finally beat the most vile football team I've ever had to watch. I would love to see them go
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulMcGrathsNo5Shirt on April 06, 2013, 04:53:01 PM
Anti football 1 Aston Villa 3

Matt Lowton, that was unbefuckinglievable
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on April 06, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
haven't come down yet, scared everyone to death when Lowton scored!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on April 06, 2013, 04:53:18 PM
Massive win.  Thought we were going to throw it all away again but they dug it out.  That has dragged a number of teams right into the shit now.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on April 06, 2013, 04:53:25 PM
Thank fuck for that! Absolutely vital 3 points, and fully deserved.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: martin o`who?? on April 06, 2013, 04:53:31 PM
Fuckin beautiful, now wheres me drinkin trousers?!.....
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danno on April 06, 2013, 04:53:35 PM
proud of the lads.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 06, 2013, 04:53:56 PM
Brilliant result and totally deserved.

Beat Fulham and Sunderland and we'll be fine I reckon.

Fucking hate Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 04:54:24 PM
What a result. Just fantastic
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dean saunders left boot on April 06, 2013, 04:54:31 PM
Well played lads. Didn't think we had it in us to fight back from 1-1, proved me wrong. Lowton's goal was world class, you won't see many better than that. Lets take the same fight into the next 6 games. UTV
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on April 06, 2013, 04:54:37 PM
Yippee, off to get pissed. Well done boys!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 04:54:45 PM
My record of listening on the headphones whilst doing the gardening to lessen the stress is Won 3, Lost 1 so you can imagine where I intend to be for the rest of the season

The way I celebrated Lowton's goal may mean the neighbours have already phoned up to have me sectioned

What a day, the sun is out, my boys win, I am in heaven!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on April 06, 2013, 04:54:48 PM
I'm shaking. Huge 3 points.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 06, 2013, 04:54:55 PM
Good response after the setback, but that goal was absolutely out of the blue, and if we do stay up Matthew Lowton deserves some sort of special bonus.

If only one of Wigan and Sunderland fail to win tomorrow then we stay out of trouble. Of course they'll both win now, but it's nice to see us actually fighting for it though.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 04:55:03 PM
Great result - worried at 1-1 as we should have been 3 or 4 up but what a fantastic finale!

Stoke look very poor - them or sunderland for the drop i feel- great day to be a villa fan , enjoy your weekend everyone , well done to players , staff and fans :D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on April 06, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Jesus Christ how fickle we all are when Stoke equalised  ::)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Five Villa Tattoos on April 06, 2013, 04:55:07 PM
Get in. Thought we'd blown it at 1-1, but so very proud of the boys today! Up the Villa!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DB on April 06, 2013, 04:55:57 PM
My rectum has just prolapsed. F**kin' get in!!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 04:56:07 PM
Oh my nervy nervy f in nerves my shakin f in bones my clattering f in teeth my jingling knee caps my fluttering f in heart... Oh I love you Villa  oh yes I do
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 04:56:13 PM
Jesus Christ how fickle we all are when Stoke equalised  ::)

Reason I stay off the match thread these days, I have embarrassed myself so many times!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 04:56:26 PM
Fuckin beautiful, now wheres me drinkin trousers?!.....
Next to your drinking Villa shirt !
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on April 06, 2013, 04:56:57 PM
3 minutes that may have just saved our proverbial bacon, the substitutions were 10 minutes too late but thankfully good triumphed over evil.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 04:57:05 PM
Out to dinner tonight, so it is MOTD in the morning!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on April 06, 2013, 04:57:26 PM
That was a massive win.  When they equalised I thought 'here we go again', but that wonder goal from Lowton and the coolest of finishes from Benteke could be the goals that save our skins. Huge confidence booster
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mal on April 06, 2013, 04:57:47 PM
Magic. Made my already very pleasant day. Super performance bar the ten minutes from 70-80. Picking it back up for the last 10 absolutely inspiring. Hope we remember that we can do that. Glad Benteke scored - wonder what the keeper thought of the 4 strong Villa frontline advancing on hm with no defenders in the half?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on April 06, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
Aaaargh!! That is all.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 06, 2013, 04:58:10 PM
Well done Lads

We flippin murdered them filthy bastards

Fuck em down.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Michel Sibble on April 06, 2013, 04:58:44 PM
Sod off Lambert.

Sorry, I meant sod off Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Uknowthescore on April 06, 2013, 04:58:52 PM
That goal scored by Lowton was probably the most important goal we've scored in our premiership history what a result we are staying up say we are staying up
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on April 06, 2013, 04:59:14 PM
Fully expect QPR to do some damage to Wigan's GD

and Chelsea have to do something for us for once
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on April 06, 2013, 04:59:30 PM
We never make it easy but that win feels huge. Get in !
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 06, 2013, 04:59:37 PM
Leeg can stay off starting the threads !!   only joking Lee ;)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on April 06, 2013, 04:59:51 PM
Most important result we'll have all season. When Stoke levelled we looked like we'd thrown another 3 points away. If anything they looked more likely to grab the winner. Thank christ for Matty. Love him.

I think that's the result which will keep us up. No points or even just 1 from this game and we'd really be feeling the pressure now.
We've got 3 and helped our GD in the process.

Lambert got away with this one big time. Stoke were bloody wretched. Not winning today would have been inexcusable. His starting line up was baffling. Taking Gabby off for Sylla was also baffling, as was leaving CNZ till so late. If he was as arrogant as MON he'd claim tactical brilliance from this, but make no mistake, Lambert got away with murder today.

Now we put pressure on Wigan and Sunderland. We've dragged Stoke into it too. Can you see Stoke getting 6 more points for that safety line? I seriously can't. They were horrific today. They've even lost the ability to play their A game effectively. It was hopeless. They're gonna struggle. A very decent bet for them to go down actually. Di Canio may prove inspirational. We'll see, but it's unlikely.

I was impressed with Bennett today. I think he's improving. Bowery worked hard but shouldn't have been playing. Stoke were very weak in fullback positions so Lambert should have got Chaz in the game sooner.
Lowton was very good and the goal was probably for more than one reason, goal of the season.

Time to unclench. This should have been about 5-0 though. It should have been easy. I really hope, FINALLY, we'll learn from these errors.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on April 06, 2013, 05:00:09 PM
Good response after the setback, but that goal was absolutely out of the blue, and if we do stay up Matthew Lowton deserves some sort of special bonus.

If only one of Wigan and Sunderland fail to win tomorrow then we stay out of trouble. Of course they'll both win now, but it's nice to see us actually fighting for it though.

My feelings exactly and we didn't exactly "dig ourselves" out of trouble, that was just pure inspiration from Lowton. I still very much stand by the swearing I was doing at the team for fucking it up but WHAT a goal and great feeling getting the third.

All eyes on Sunderland and Wigan now!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on April 06, 2013, 05:00:16 PM
Jesus Christ how fickle we all are when Stoke equalised  ::)
In all fairness, completely justified. We need to ensure that wonder goal doesnt mask our deficiencies. Firstly we need to start putting teams to the sword when on top. Secondly we need to cut out these shit second halves. Thirdly we need to stop regressing into our own box and trying to defend a one goal lead as 95% of the time we end up getting stung.

It does make it so much sweeeter when its completely out of the blue
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DB on April 06, 2013, 05:00:17 PM
2 more wins to be sure. Makes it a bit easier now, pressure on Sunderland, Wigan.... Stoke only 1 point ahead and they have ManUre next.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: NeilH on April 06, 2013, 05:00:21 PM
Still can't get over that goal. Just pure class. Must be a contender for goal of the season.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on April 06, 2013, 05:00:37 PM
If you want a good laugh just read page 32 and 33 of the match thread
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 06, 2013, 05:01:01 PM
It's days like this that I am glad my marriage ended in October.  Coz I am off now to get absolutely fuckin slaughtered - brilliant bottle Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 06, 2013, 05:01:20 PM
3 points and probably the goal of the season, job done, i've been saying Stoke are the ones who'll get sucked into the battle for a month or 2 and watching them today I see no reason to change my mind, they're awful.  N'zonzi put in probably the most abject midfield performance I've seen all season, and he was still better than Shotton who has to be the worst player in the league.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: neo_Villan on April 06, 2013, 05:01:25 PM
Is it fair to say that Lowton goal could be the difference between survival and relegation? Don't think we would've got over throwing this one away. And I love Benteke!!! Never in doubt once he was clean through.

Ratings:
Guzan - Commanded area well, couldn't have done much for goal...7
Lowton - Thank fuck!!!!!!!!!!!...9
Vlaar and Baker - Didn't do much wrong until that shocking 5 minutes around when they scored when the whole team went to shit...7 for both
Bennett - Hardly noticed him, which is good. Did his job efficiently. Fair play to him...7
Westwood - Did his job for most of the game. Gave away a couple of stupid balls later...7
Delph - Didn't get booked. Enough said...7
Bowery - Can't fault him really. Looked a little leggy late on, but fair play to him. Good feet too...7
Weimann - not his best ever game IMO. Could have done better with chance...6
Gabby - Brilliant first half. Don't really get why he was taken off as he was the best of the attackers...8
Benteke - They doubled up on him all game. He still scored. Job done...7

MoTM - Lowton just for that strike alone.

May I add that Stoke were absolutely abysmal until Adam came on. Completely devoid of any quality in midfield and attack. I thought MON wasted money but Pulis has taken it to a different level. Wouldn't be surprised to see them go down although they might be able to draw their way to safety.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 06, 2013, 05:01:43 PM
I watched the first half, and then just couldn't face the second. Though I saw the goals!

Fantastic result. Asbolutely crucial.

There's always a risk of letting the result dictate too much about the view of the performance, but from what I saw we were absolutely fantastic. Created buckets of chances. Stoke we just awful. I mean unbelievably awful.

Westwood (in particular) and Delph controlled the game in the first half. Benteke a bit quiet. Bowery did well apart from his miss.

Just a fantastic, fantastic 5 minutes. I'd given up when they equalised. It's happened too many times.

I thought we looked like we had the makings of a good side. And whether we go down or not - which I don't think we will know - surely the most anti-Lambert people would agree that we're starting to have some identity as a side and are passing the ball (at times) better than a Villa side has managed for quite some time. This time last year none of those things were teh case.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 06, 2013, 05:01:48 PM
wish I didnt know the score now . Could have enjoyed this on game of the day on sky round my mates in HD..



get in there ;)    getting drunk , I am so happy


Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 06, 2013, 05:01:55 PM
Fully expect QPR to do some damage to Wigan's GD

and Chelsea have to do something for us for once

I think that'll be a draw.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Michel Sibble on April 06, 2013, 05:02:15 PM
Just checking the table, we no longer have the worst GD.

Reading -27
Villa -25
QPR -23
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on April 06, 2013, 05:03:14 PM
 Bit more composure in front of goal, we could have had 5 or 6 today.

 Big result today, i was not confident at all today, and feared that if we lost today then we would go down.When they equalized i thought, although they were shit, they would snatch it, but a wonder goal, and a wonder player, and we got what we deserved.

 Thought Baker and Vlaaar were quite solid today, Guzan excellant again, Bennett good solid game, kept the ball well, defended well, Lowton, wonder goal, Delph , nice and steady, as was Westwood, Bowery i thought played quite well, keeps the ball well, has a bit of pace, tired towards the end.Gabby, should have had a hat trick today, not over convinced about him, but as usual scores in bursts, lets hope he carries on.Weimann needs  a rest.

 Overall we deserved that today, play some good football, a bit more confidence next season, with a couple of quality players, we would be top half.Need a destroyer in the middle of the park though, and not N'Zonzi.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 05:03:26 PM
If we beat Fulham we will be well on our way to survival - confidence is high , eastie is very happy and special thanks for the help given at kick off :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 05:03:59 PM
Leeg can stay off starting the threads !!   only joking Lee ;)
Vote for Dave. He will keep us up.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: sonlyme on April 06, 2013, 05:04:01 PM
God I wish we would attack more and not shit ourselves so much in defence.  It was like watching kids in the playground.  Scuffed clearance after scuffed clearance.  With every second ball being picked up by a Stokie thug.

But when we attack we are a different team.  And I am still in shock and awe at Matt Lowton's stunning volley.  I have not seen a better Villa strike since my old mate Chris Nicholl's cracker against Everton.  It really was that good.  Dying to get back and watch match of the day.  Gonna tape it. :D

Get in!  Another winning performance against Fulham and I can stop wearing these adult diapers - the chafing is horrendous.

Stoke is an awful place full of awful people.

Come on Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mal on April 06, 2013, 05:04:03 PM
Is it fair to say that Lowton goal could be the difference between survival and relegation? Don't think we would've got over throwing this one away. And I love Benteke!!! Never in doubt once he was clean through.

Ratings:
Guzan - Commanded area well, couldn't have done much for goal...7
Lowton - Thank fuck!!!!!!!!!!!...9
Vlaar and Baker - Didn't do much wrong until that shocking 5 minutes around when they scored when the whole team went to shit...7 for both
Bennett - Hardly noticed him, which is good. Did his job efficiently. Fair play to him...7
Westwood - Did his job for most of the game. Gave away a couple of stupid balls later...7
Delph - Didn't get booked. Enough said...7
Bowery - Can't fault him really. Looked a little leggy late on, but fair play to him. Good feet too...7
Weimann - not his best ever game IMO. Could have done better with chance...6
Gabby - Brilliant first half. Don't really get why he was taken off as he was the best of the attackers...8
Benteke - They doubled up on him all game. He still scored. Job done...7

MoTM - Lowton just for that strike alone.

May I add that Stoke were absolutely abysmal until Adam came on. Completely devoid of any quality in midfield and attack. I thought MON wasted money but Pulis has taken it to a different level. Wouldn't be surprised to see them go down although they might be able to draw their way to safety.

Can't disagree with much of that - Would love to see Adam at Villa Park next year he's just what we need in the middle sly dirty and capable of controlling the play.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on April 06, 2013, 05:04:38 PM
Not sure how I feel. Nervous to peed off to ecstatic to absolutely shattered.

sort that defence out and there's a decent team there.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rancid custard on April 06, 2013, 05:05:02 PM
there was me thinking it'd be our capitulation special, but no we finally unfucked ourselves in the last 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 06, 2013, 05:05:17 PM
Most important result we'll have all season. When Stoke levelled we looked like we'd thrown another 3 points away. If anything they looked more likely to grab the winner. Thank christ for Matty. Love him.

I think that's the result which will keep us up. No points or even just 1 from this game and we'd really be feeling the pressure now.
We've got 3 and helped our GD in the process.

Lambert got away with this one big time. Stoke were bloody wretched. Not winning today would have been inexcusable. His starting line up was baffling. Taking Gabby off for Sylla was also baffling, as was leaving CNZ till so late. If he was as arrogant as MON he'd claim tactical brilliance from this, but make no mistake, Lambert got away with murder today.

Now we put pressure on Wigan and Sunderland. We've dragged Stoke into it too. Can you see Stoke getting 6 more points for that safety line? I seriously can't. They were horrific today. They've even lost the ability to play their A game effectively. It was hopeless. They're gonna struggle. A very decent bet for them to go down actually. Di Canio may prove inspirational. We'll see, but it's unlikely.

I was impressed with Bennett today. I think he's improving. Bowery worked hard but shouldn't have been playing. Stoke were very weak in fullback positions so Lambert should have got Chaz in the game sooner.
Lowton was very good and the goal was probably for more than one reason, goal of the season.

Time to unclench. This should have been about 5-0 though. It should have been easy. I really hope, FINALLY, we'll learn from these errors.

agree with most of that , think Gabby was injured thou but Charlie made alot of difference when he was on , attacking them and  stretching them and should have been on in the 60th minute.

but Im happy
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on April 06, 2013, 05:06:18 PM
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Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 06, 2013, 05:06:23 PM
I think people are underestimating quite how good Westwood was (at least in that first half). He was absolutely fantastic. He ran the game. He was playing in division 2 last year for God's sake. Very promising player indeed and an excellent signing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Michel Sibble on April 06, 2013, 05:06:39 PM
Stoke is an awful place full of awful people.

Quoted for truth.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on April 06, 2013, 05:06:58 PM
Just checking the table, we no longer have the worst GD.

Reading -27
Villa -25
QPR -23

Just need QPR to stick 4 past Wigan for safety first measures too!

Am I being a tad greedy?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 06, 2013, 05:07:27 PM
We pick ourselves up and go again :)  :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Hampshire Villa on April 06, 2013, 05:08:07 PM
fantastic result, could be the result of the season for us! We really need to consolidate this now with a win over Fulham!  They played with so much confidence , but we are still open to a mistake based on inexperience. But overall great result!
We should have won that by 5 or 6 with all the chances we had!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danno on April 06, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
I think people are underestimating quite how good Westwood was (at least in that first half). He was absolutely fantastic. He ran the game. He was playing in division 3 last year for God's sake. Very promising player indeed and an excellent signing.


brilliant point, considering his contemporary Nick Powell, is being eased in at snails pace at Old Trafford.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mister E on April 06, 2013, 05:08:31 PM
Well, I was out and so relied  on the R5L commentary and  - TBF - Danny Mills was very complimentary about us.

Which is nice.

Stoke have the worst form in 2013 in the P-ship which is why I thought we were in with a shout; thank God we pulled it off.

Onwards and upwards.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 06, 2013, 05:09:35 PM
A moment of pure inspiration from Lowton. Fair play to the lad for having the stones to try it. Was it the same end Crouchsaurus got his worldy against Hart last season?

Anything other than a Villa win would have been a victory only for the forces of evil which blow down onto the M6.
Let's make this precious. I think we probably will and stay up now.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on April 06, 2013, 05:10:59 PM
well Lowton has paid for his fee as we are staying up , it was that big a goal...
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 05:11:00 PM
Garth Crooks I love you...just said how fantastic the Villa fans were today, all 5000 of them, and how Chelsea fans could take a leaf out of their book when it comes to sticking with your team and not moaning.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Scott Nielsen on April 06, 2013, 05:11:44 PM
Keep rewinding to watch Lowton's goal and the subsequent celebrations in front of the stand. Don't think I'll tire anytime soon.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on April 06, 2013, 05:12:25 PM
Is it fair to say that Lowton goal could be the difference between survival and relegation? Don't think we would've got over throwing this one away. And I love Benteke!!! Never in doubt once he was clean through.

Ratings:
Guzan - Commanded area well, couldn't have done much for goal...7
Lowton - Thank fuck!!!!!!!!!!!...9
Vlaar and Baker - Didn't do much wrong until that shocking 5 minutes around when they scored when the whole team went to shit...7 for both
Bennett - Hardly noticed him, which is good. Did his job efficiently. Fair play to him...7
Westwood - Did his job for most of the game. Gave away a couple of stupid balls later...7
Delph - Didn't get booked. Enough said...7
Bowery - Can't fault him really. Looked a little leggy late on, but fair play to him. Good feet too...7
Weimann - not his best ever game IMO. Could have done better with chance...6
Gabby - Brilliant first half. Don't really get why he was taken off as he was the best of the attackers...8
Benteke - They doubled up on him all game. He still scored. Job done...7

MoTM - Lowton just for that strike alone.

May I add that Stoke were absolutely abysmal until Adam came on. Completely devoid of any quality in midfield and attack. I thought MON wasted money but Pulis has taken it to a different level. Wouldn't be surprised to see them go down although they might be able to draw their way to safety.

Can't disagree with much of that - Would love to see Adam at Villa Park next year he's just what we need in the middle sly dirty and capable of controlling the play.

Can't agree about Adam at B6. He can't get in the Stoke starting line up and he's likely to be an unstablising influence in the dressing room
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on April 06, 2013, 05:12:29 PM
Garth Crooks I love you...just said how fantastic the Villa fans were today, all 5000 of them, and how Chelsea fans could take a leaf out of their book when it comes to sticking with your team and not moaning.

Our away support has to be one of the best in the country, not just in England. I love away days, always a laugh, even if it does take the form of gallows humour sometimes.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
Well, I was out and so relied  on the R5L commentary and  - TBF - Danny Mills was very complimentary about us.

Which is nice.

Stoke have the worst form in 2013 in the P-ship which is why I thought we were in with a shout; thank God we pulled it off.

Onwards and upwards.

Only when it became evident we were the team playing all the football did he start being complimentary, I thought he was rooting for Stoke the first ten minutes. Having said that, I do think he is an excellent co-commentator on BBC R5 as is Martin Keown
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on April 06, 2013, 05:13:04 PM
Just watched Lowton's goal again - he must have hit that from about 30 yards out
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 06, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
Great stuff, well played lads

UTV
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on April 06, 2013, 05:14:18 PM
Just watched Lowton's goal again - he must have hit that from about 30 yards out

Could be worth 50million that one
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: avfc_1874 on April 06, 2013, 05:14:23 PM
Massive 3 points.

There's always that problem with going to the Britannia and not taking your chances as Stoke are always capable of scoring/fluking a goal.

Matt Lowton. I salute you sir (not in the Di Canio way)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on April 06, 2013, 05:14:33 PM
 Good footballer Westwood, a bit lightweight, and fades a bit, but as danno says, playing too many games atm,but we don't have much choice.Don't underestimate Delphs contribution to Westwood's improvement though, his energy, and pace, means Westwood does'nt have to do so much.

 I actually thought Delph had a better game than Westwood tbh.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on April 06, 2013, 05:14:41 PM
Well, I was out and so relied  on the R5L commentary and  - TBF - Danny Mills was very complimentary about us.

Which is nice.

Stoke have the worst form in 2013 in the P-ship which is why I thought we were in with a shout; thank God we pulled it off.

Onwards and upwards.

Unlike Francis on TV, struggled to say anything complimentary about Villa unless it was unavoidable.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danno on April 06, 2013, 05:17:04 PM
Delph's turn of pace is brilliant, when he gets it right he just glides past challenges.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: usav on April 06, 2013, 05:17:19 PM
Says a lot that the most powder puff Villa team and especially defence in years, finally get a win at Stoke.

Wonderful goal from Lowton and good to finally get a win after threatening to do our usual throw it away act.

Stoke are terrible and should go down based on that.   
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dekko on April 06, 2013, 05:19:46 PM
To be honest I thought that apart from that 10-20 minute period where everybody went to shit and they equalised we were really very good today - created loads of chances (although the finishing wasn't great from the strikers) and generally bossed the game.

As for the Sylla/Gabby sub - the commentator on my stream said Gabby had an ice pack on, so it was probably a forced change, although putting on a defensive midfielder instead of N'Zog or Bent was a bit of an odd decision.

Also no catastrophic defensive howlers to speak of!

Onwards and upwards  ;D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: sonlyme on April 06, 2013, 05:23:55 PM
When Gabby came off they put a couple of what looked like ice packs on his leg.  I think he might have taken a knock - as that's all the Stokies can do.  Vile place.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Simmons on April 06, 2013, 05:24:00 PM
Brilliant. There were a horrible few minutes when you knew Stoke were about to score but it looks like we're starting to turn this around and are toughening up a bit too.

Guzan - 8 - outstanding. Confidence-inspiring, coming out for punches and to claim balls he had no right to. Didn't have much chance with the goal. What a difference from those shaky memories of the Blackburn semi. Wouldn't swap him for any keeper in the league right now.
Lowton - 7.5 - I was thinking he'd had a great game even before the goal. Set up the first and played well throughout, with the exception of the slip for the Stoke goal. I didn't realise the goal had gone in until I saw him celebrating, just seemed too unlikely!
Vlaar - 7 - pretty good but he's not turning out to be the player we hoped he would.
Baker - 7 - strong in the air and held up really well against the physical Stoke attack. A brave block when he took the ball full in the face. Did well to stay on his feet just after that when he could easily have slid in and given away another penalty just after that. Felt happier having him in for this game than Clark.
Bennett - 7 - better, I think. Unspectacular but nothing too worrying.
Westwood - 7.5 - great ball retention and kept the whole side ticking.
Delph - 8.5 (MOTM) - thought he was brilliant today. Was everywhere, won a surprising amount in the air and kept his discipline well.
Agbonlahor - 7.5 - looked really up for it in the first half. Unlucky to be booked - don't think Gabby's cute enough to even try and dive but it did look bad.
Weimann - 7 - can see why Lambert played him centrally - all energy and industry and didn't give Stoke's defenders a moment's rest. Really unlucky when he drove through and hit the post.
Bowery - 7 - his physical presence helped the team compete and he did ok. Did well to get a touch back to Lowton in the build-up to the first goal.
Benteke - 7 - not at his best but very calm for his goal and it was great to see him toying with the Stoke players as they were running down the clock in the last few minutes.

Sylla - didn't have much time but put himself around.
N'Zogbia - did well to inject some pace and won a couple of handy free kicks to slow things down.
Bent - don't think he touched the ball.

Before I forget, Trevor Francis... what a moron. Why is he being paid? Dull and really doesn't offer any insight into the game. There's no point having a former pro commentating if they can't offer anything a decent journalist could. Idiot.

Absolutely delighted. Let's hope results go our way tomorrow.

UTV
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: *shellac* on April 06, 2013, 05:24:18 PM
Lowton's goal...Even Better Than The Young Thing.

Massive win, proud of the boys.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on April 06, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit. 




(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2429073/Lowton_Goal_1.gif)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Summers on April 06, 2013, 05:27:58 PM
Lowton and Westwood, when you consider where they came from, have had incredible seasons. Lowton has now scored two great goals. This one should be goal of the season. What technique that boy has, he's also a really good Premiership fullback.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on April 06, 2013, 05:28:26 PM
is this the first time we have more points than games played?

I FEEL SOOOOO GOOD
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 05:28:35 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit. 




(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2429073/Lowton_Goal_1.gif)
That has to be goal of the season. No doubt at all. Truly fantastic finish. What a goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on April 06, 2013, 05:28:43 PM
What a goal from Lowton. My mom was at my house all afternoon, so I could only half follow the game, what with her wanting to watch the Grand National as well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on April 06, 2013, 05:28:49 PM
We nearly blew it. If you score one and then miss two very good chances (Weimann and Bowery) you stand every chance of conceeding one
and Stoke scored.Then  Ron Vlaar handled (looked an obvious pen on the box) but Clattenberg didnt give it.

Thank God for Lowtons goal. All right it was spectacular but even if it was a tap in from two yards that was the most important goal of the season. Benteke who had been marshalled well by the Stoke defence then scored a very good goal indeed .Better than Lowtons in my opinion.

Cant think for the life of me why Bowery was in the line up it doesnt make sense  Westwood was above excellent for the majority of the match he really caught the eye.

Finally Stoke were awful  Shotton must be the worst proffessional in that clubs history and they could well go down.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 05:30:18 PM
Very good and well balanced comments from Pulis on SSN.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 06, 2013, 05:31:02 PM
I couldn't listen or watch any of this so well done to those who did.

The result is all but the performance sounds good as well - beat the crap and give it a go against the high fliers - I can ask no more

Anyone reckon Fulham will be a bore-draw?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dekko on April 06, 2013, 05:31:13 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on April 06, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
Fantastic result and fully deserved.

And what a goal from Lowton, that's a worldy.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 06, 2013, 05:34:11 PM
Fantastic performance and an even better winner!
Superb, Villa! A few drinks tonight me thinks!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: remy on April 06, 2013, 05:34:42 PM
Oh My Days !!!

Lowton - you are a SUPERSTAR !!!

Were panicky, back to 1-1 and crowd and Stoke players starting to turn the game.

A moment of providence.

Cross glides over, Stokie heads out, ball lands on the chest, shapes up to volley and BANG - ball sails into the top corner from 30 + yards.

Story to tell my Grandkids. It was so beautiful I cried.

5000+ fans outsinging the thugs.

Benteke closer to 20 goals.

First away win at Stoke in the Prem.

3 points closer to safety.

Delph, Gabby, Guzan absolutely magnificent especially.

Goal difference improved.

Dragged the teams above back in it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on April 06, 2013, 05:35:53 PM
What a goal and what an important result! Depending on the Wigan/Sunderland results, I'm suddenly optimistic that we might not find ourselves back in the bottom three for the remainder of the season.  Wins against Fulham and Sunderland and we're as good as safe. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on April 06, 2013, 05:36:31 PM
Cashback.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 05:37:03 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread

Indeed, agree totally. We've all said stupid things in there which have turned out be wrong as I'm sure most of us have done at matches.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: berneboy on April 06, 2013, 05:37:52 PM
I couldn't cope with the tension and was walking up and down my street following on Twitter - when Matthew scored I believe my neighbours had their suspicions about my sanity confirmed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on April 06, 2013, 05:38:52 PM
Jesus Christ how fickle we all are when Stoke equalised  ::)

Reason I stay off the match thread these days, I have embarrassed myself so many times!
It's the ranting and raving that keep me sane.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on April 06, 2013, 05:42:07 PM
Wins against Fulham and Sunderland and we're as good as safe. 

It all sounds so straightforward...
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: seanthevillan on April 06, 2013, 05:42:30 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread

I would normally agree, but I think Lamb-Stockmix may be getting a few odd looks at the moment *winks*.

I'm so fucking tense.

If we score, my pants will fill with semen.

If they score, they'll be covered in shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 05:43:04 PM
I couldn't listen or watch any of this so well done to those who did.

The result is all but the performance sounds good as well - beat the crap and give it a go against the high fliers - I can ask no more

Anyone reckon Fulham will be a bore-draw?
You have to see Lowton's goal. Best i have seen, ever.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on April 06, 2013, 05:43:36 PM
I did my usual, in that on 70 i buggered off from all communication and we won again. It is working well!


From what I saw, I thought Shawcross and Huth, perhaps inevitably, shackled the big man well until, well, boom.

Gabby ran his arse off first half.

Bowery did well and held up the ball, brought the midfield into play and helped us get control of the ball.

Bennett had a good game - said it on the thread,we have to get him more involved in whipping the ball in, he has a wand of a left foot that one day will make him a top player.

Weimann was quiet but worked his arse off.

Westwood and Delph are a really good partnership. Milner with them just in front would be the bomb.

I hope those banging on that the likes of Westwood, Lowton, Bennett, Vlaar etc are not up to it will ease off on them. They could be excellent next season with a bit of confidence if we can survive this. Lambert is a good manager in my opinion, streets better than TSM last season and the O'Neill that left us. We need to stick with this group, they are showing they have guts too. Stay up and use a bit of the new TV cash, free up more wages from those who offer nothing and trust Lambert to go again.


Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on April 06, 2013, 05:45:16 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread

Indeed, agree totally. We've all said stupid things in there which have turned out be wrong as I'm sure most of us have done at matches.

Hahaha.  I followed it up with some well deserved self deprecation. He did dive in and is dodgy as hell defensively.  That really was some goal though and much much needed.  Special moment. 

Hey, thanks for re posting though.  Really fucking clever. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: themossman on April 06, 2013, 05:47:17 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread

Indeed, agree totally. We've all said stupid things in there which have turned out be wrong as I'm sure most of us have done at matches.

And he's not even necessarily wrong. Lowton was still part of a defence that tried its best to commit football suicide for the umpteenth time this season. That comment and him scoring a wonder goal aren't mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on April 06, 2013, 05:48:54 PM
No, no.  Let 'arsey' have his moment. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: remy on April 06, 2013, 05:50:51 PM
If Lowton played for any of the 3 despicable moneybags then the wankfest by the press would have been immeasurable. Also he would be fast tracked to the England squad.

HUGE result - thank you Aston Villa FC !!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
I see sky have chosen arsenal as game of the day - villa are 1st on match of the day though!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Axl Rose on April 06, 2013, 05:51:30 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2429129/Lowton_Goal_Better.gif

Hero!!!
Love you Villa!
Get in!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 06, 2013, 05:52:29 PM
I see sky have chosen arsenal as game of the day - villa are 1st on match of the day though!

Oh good, means I won't waste any time watching anyone else before I go for my Sunday morning cross country run!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on April 06, 2013, 05:55:36 PM
No, no.  Let 'arsey' have his moment. 

You are John Challis and I claim my £5
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
A step closer to safety, but more to do yet. Not taking away from today's performance at all, but i am still very worried about us.
Fulham is a must win, Villa Park should be rocking, United away, well, nothing from that you would have to say, Sunderland home, bury them, and then another 3 points against Norwich should see the Villa faithfull travelling to Wigan able to have an enjoyable day. God knows you lot who go week in week out deserve a good last day. UTV.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: enigma on April 06, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
My Dad's birthday so I've been out all day. Dying to see Lowton's goal. Sounds like an absolute belter.

Now I really hope other results go in our favour for once. This win is massive.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on April 06, 2013, 05:57:14 PM
Tremendous win, fully deserved.

If we had even an average defence we'd be comfortably top half.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 06, 2013, 06:00:56 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2429129/Lowton_Goal_Better.gif

Hero!!!
Love you Villa!
Get in!

Take a bow son. I still think Lowton has the potential to play for England, though I'm not not sure if that's a comment at the current England team or one on his ability.

Massive win! Now we can relax and get the beers in! :D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: enigma on April 06, 2013, 06:01:04 PM
In fact whenever I miss a match, Bowery plays. I think I've yet to see him play. How's he looking? Not good enough? Useful squad player or potentially more than that?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 06, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
My Dad's birthday so I've been out all day. Dying to see Lowton's goal. Sounds like an absolute belter.

Now I really hope other results go in our favour for once. This win is massive.

Just look a couple of pages back.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 06, 2013, 06:01:45 PM
Have been out with the kids all afternoon, couldn't bear to check the scores after I last saw that it was 1-1.  Fabulous result though.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on April 06, 2013, 06:03:34 PM
Great result.  The sun is shining and there's beer in the fridge.

As I said in the pre-match thread, it's about time we turned over this shower of shit.  Would love to see the clayheads get dragged into the mire over the next few weeks, but as long as we pull away that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 06, 2013, 06:04:01 PM
I've not read through this yet, but some of the football today was simply wonderful to watch. So precise and we should have been out of sight by HT. Yes, as a young side we are prone to mental errors and that will hurt us. That we need help in the summer isn't a secret. But this is the type of football almost everyone wants to see. Quick, precise,  good movement and for the first time since Liverpool away we got the result our play deserved.

Those are some green shoots of progress and I hope everyone remains patient as these players develop.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on April 06, 2013, 06:04:57 PM
Again some really good football for a large part of the game. I thought the defence looked very solid apart from the 10 minutes or so where we insisted on inviting Stoke back into the game. They had two shots on target in the whole match.

All three goals were very good ones in their own way, with Lowton's clearly a class above the others. You could make a video of this season that would give the impression that we'd walked the League title.

Time give give someone a real pasting at VP. It's overdue.



Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 06, 2013, 06:05:22 PM
I couldn't listen or watch any of this so well done to those who did.

The result is all but the performance sounds good as well - beat the crap and give it a go against the high fliers - I can ask no more

Anyone reckon Fulham will be a bore-draw?

Draw, maybe.

Bore? Us? No f'kin chance!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: RossLeach on April 06, 2013, 06:06:06 PM
Again some really good football for a large part of the game. I thought the defence looked very solid apart from the 10 minutes or so where we insisted on inviting Stoke back into the game. They had two shots on target in the whole match.

All three goals were very good ones in their own way, with Lowton's clearly a class above the others. You could make a video of this season that would give the impression that we'd walked the League title.

Time give give someone a real pasting at VP. It's overdue.





Chelsea?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 06, 2013, 06:06:14 PM
And Matt Lowton's first goal for the club was a chest and left foot volley from 22yds. Now this one. Blimey son.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mr woo on April 06, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
Brilliant, brilliant result.

I was worried we'd fold when they equalised but that was the only period where we looked a little shaky. Stoke looked woeful, esp first half.

Great goal by Lowton and Benteke never looked like he'd miss in his '6-on-1' in the last minute.

Well played lads, well deserved and well done to all those on H&V who confidently predicted a victory.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 06, 2013, 06:08:30 PM
I couldn't listen or watch any of this so well done to those who did.

The result is all but the performance sounds good as well - beat the crap and give it a go against the high fliers - I can ask no more

Anyone reckon Fulham will be a bore-draw?

Draw, maybe.

Bore? Us? No f'kin chance!!

I would take boring 2-0 win LFstamper
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 06:08:36 PM
Am I the first one back home from the match? Fucking loved it!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mrfuse on April 06, 2013, 06:09:01 PM

Great goal by Lowton and Benteke never looked like he'd miss in his '6-on-1' in the last minute.


Stupidly for a split second I thought Benteke was going to square it....
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 06:10:14 PM
Am I the first one back home from the match? Fucking loved it!!!

Delighted to hear it pws- get your ticket for Norwich :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: enigma on April 06, 2013, 06:11:27 PM
My Dad's birthday so I've been out all day. Dying to see Lowton's goal. Sounds like an absolute belter.

Now I really hope other results go in our favour for once. This win is massive.

Just look a couple of pages back.
Bloody hell!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on April 06, 2013, 06:12:56 PM
There was some very good football first half, TV but Stoke were absolutely shocking.

I'm still feeling numb after that, I could see us throwing it away even before they scored. We just went to sleep and let Stoke pass the ball - something I've never seen before.

I still believe Lambert sets us up too narrow, there was nobody down the right in the first half, making it easy for Stoke to defend. Benteke and the other strikers were restricted due to the lack of space to run into. Still, right now, I'm more than happy with the result, three points and an overall great performance. We do like to make it difficult for ourselves. Hopefully we'll learn one day.

Special mention to the Villa fans. Excellent as usual. Well done all that were there.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on April 06, 2013, 06:14:36 PM
Jesus Christ how fickle we all are when Stoke equalised  ::)
In all fairness, completely justified. We need to ensure that wonder goal doesnt mask our deficiencies. Firstly we need to start putting teams to the sword when on top. Secondly we need to cut out these shit second halves. Thirdly we need to stop regressing into our own box and trying to defend a one goal lead as 95% of the time we end up getting stung.

It does make it so much sweeeter when its completely out of the blue

agree 100%

After they way we had completely dominated the game, to not have got 3 points might well have killed us and sent us down. Lowton's goal of the season shouldnt mask that we were unable to put an abysmal Stoke side to the sword.

There were many positives in the win. Vlaar had his best game in a while. Bennett continues to improve. Guzan was decisive as always. Westwood and Delph were outstanding in midfield I thought. Gabby in the first half was excellent (pathetic dive aside) and Weimann was dangerous. We created a load of good chances and took the piss out of Stoke with good possession for long periods. You can see there is the bones of a good team there playing good football but with a ridiculously soft centre.

We seem to lack the self belief to put teams like Stoke to the sword. Stoke were atrocious, the worst Ive seen a Premier League side play probably ever. The style of football and just everything about them was vile. Not until Adam particularly but also Jermoe coming on gave them any hope. I guess we all knew one goal wouldnt be enough. Walters had started to get joy off Lowton before the goal and I felt it was coming. Our bottle had disappeared really. Defenders were no longer trying to find our midfield duo with the ball. Lambert's lack of action on the sideline didnt help matters. Sylla when he came on was a headless chicken. Nzogbia should have been on as a proactive change to get the second goal 20 mins before he did come on. Bent too should have been on for Benteke long before the end.

But then Lowton popped up.....surely to give us the impetus we need to see out the remaining games to safely avoid the drop.

Guzan 7 - gave great assurance to the defence in the air but modern goalkeepers need to be able to user their feet. Guzan hoofing balls into no mans land cost us possession all game. Really need to work on it during pre season.

Lowton 6 - how can a player who got goal of the season and a great assist only get a 6? But he simply cannot defend to save himself. A very good player on the ball as he showed throughout the game. But physically weak and positionally suspect especially when we under the cosh after Adam came on. A summer in the gym badly needed or else needs to be played on the right of midfield maybe.

Vlaar 7 - best game in a while. Strong in the air and easily bested Jones. Lucky enough to get away with handball. Should be doing more to force his defenders to keep the ball to feet.

Baker 6 - Solid enough game. Jerome got the better of him once but in general did fine. Stoke really should have had a penalty from his handball in the early minutes. Very naive to have your arms dangling like that but thankfully we got away with it. Gives his all as taking the ball in the face indicates but we badly need a better central defender than him long term. He was far too happy to pass everything back to Guzan instead of keeping the ball into the midfield. Ball playing centre half needed in the summer.

Bennett 7 - impressed with him and seems to be improving nicely now. Tidy on the ball but has improved out of recognition positionally. Not diving in as much and we are all the better for it. Have to say he is proving me wrong as had written him off not too long ago.

Bowery 6 - a good shift and was on the ball a lot. Great attitude and was involved in the opening goal and got 2 great chances himself. Dont think he has the ability to play at this level really but wasnt a bad outing at all from him. Ran out of steam pretty badly though and Lambert should have replaced him much earlier.

Westwood 9 - Hard to separate which of our midfield duo was better but will go for Westwood. For a lad coming in from Crewe this has been some season to be fair. To be honest he has far better midfield instincts than any of our recent midfield graduates from the academy. Developing into a fine deep lying playmaker and was all the better for having Delph's bite next to him.

Delph 8 - started superbly, daft decision from Lambert not to start him against Liverpool to be fair. Gives our midfield pace and presence that we desperately miss when he isnt there. He has improved out of all recognition in the second half of this season. Kept the head today too and still won his tackles. Maybe needed a bit more from him towards the end of the game. Westwood seemed more prominent then.

Gabby 8 - another player who has improved hugely in the second half of the season. Was excellent again today, really exploiting Cameron and Shotton. Kept drifting infield well, got a bit lucky with the goal but was at least in the right position for a tap in which is unlike Gabby. In recent games, Liverpool, QPR etc he is getting chances by drifting into the middle at times. His effort to make it 2-0 was fairly desperate, was wide open for a lob of the keeper and the dive was pathetic. Still though was our best forward today so hope his injury aint serious.

Benteke 5 - seems to have one of these games once in a while where his attitude stinks a bit. Danger of him believing his hype a bit I reckon. Then again was superb against Liverpool last time out so inconsistency for a young player is to be expected. If he had missed the chance at the end he would have deserved serious grief for not squaring for Bent. Forwards always tend to be selfish in those situations though.

Weimann 7 - full of running and took up great positions as always. If forwards keep getting into those positions then the goals will come. Unlucky to hit the post. Needs to work a bit on his technique over the summer. Seems to get the ball caught under his feet a bit at times. Still was disappointed to see him coming off at the time for Bent.

Sylla 4 - yikes this wasnt impressive at all and I think he is finding the pace at this level a bit much now. Havent been overly gone on him so far, seems to run around a lot but doesnt seem an attacking or defensive midfielder. We needed an experienced player to come in at the time of the first substitution, Sylla didnt help matters at all.

Nzogbia 7 - was only on a short time but was pretty impressive even in those 10 or so minutes he got. Direct, ran with the ball, good touch. Decent shot too which was deflected out for the corner that Lowton's goal came from. Should have been on much sooner. A better player away from Villa Park by a long way.

Bent - didnt have much time but a great option to have on the bench. Would have liked to have seen him tap home the third but Benteke thankfully didnt screw it up going it alone. Id have had him on much sooner.

Lambert - Delph coming back in was a no brainer and had a big impact. Guess he can say Bowery's selection was justified but that may ignore how desperate Stoke's full backs were today. Faith in Bennett continues to be justified and the trio of Gabby, Weimann and Benteke are a fearsome prospect away from home. We certainly play some really good football at times helped by two full backs who are comfortable on the ball. While Westwood and Delph have made great strides since Xmas.

However, his lack of action on the sideline continues to worry. Nzogbia coming on much earlier was a change crying out to be made. A positive subsitution like that would have shown the players we were going for the win. Sylla coming on for Gabby was a bad mistake and one I think Lambert knew after Stoke scored. If he learns from that, well and good. Managers like Ferguson are consistently good at making proactive substitutions, sensing when an opposition are weak and going for the jugular. We were anything but that and could well have paid the price.

Saw Reading v Southampton earlier. Southampton would have hammered Stoke today. They will be staying up for sure. Steven Davis was their best player by a long way. Reading were nearly as bad as Stoke and are as good as gone.

Win against Fulham next time out should see us safe.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on April 06, 2013, 06:19:01 PM
In fact whenever I miss a match, Bowery plays. I think I've yet to see him play. How's he looking? Not good enough? Useful squad player or potentially more than that?

From the limited occasions I've seen him he's been they type who works his arse off running about but struggles to do anything too useful with the ball, a bit like Gabby on a bad day. He's still got time to improve, mind.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on April 06, 2013, 06:20:34 PM
tl;dr

Didn't we used to have a sticky where people could put up their marks out of 10 for each player?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 06:21:27 PM
In fact whenever I miss a match, Bowery plays. I think I've yet to see him play. How's he looking? Not good enough? Useful squad player or potentially more than that?

From the limited occasions I've seen him he's been they type who works his arse off running about but struggles to do anything too useful with the ball, a bit like Gabby on a bad day. He's still got time to improve, mind.

He did one pull down that was world class. He's a useful squad player, probably won't ever be more but for the money we're doing alright. 100% record with him starting games as well I think.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on April 06, 2013, 06:21:38 PM
Will the game be available to download online anywhere? Missed it and would like to watch it back in full if possible. Cheers.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 06:22:00 PM
Has to be one of the most perfect awaydays ever. Good company up there, no traffic at all. Glorious weather so we sat on the bank by the away end watching the world go by. Into the ground, friendly police and stewards. Fantastic seat. Unlike Mr Sox who had a crap one down the front next to the nutters. Cracking atmosphere, 70 minutes of dominating the game where we should have scored a lot more than the one. Then 10 minutes of the scary Villa and then two late goals. Fantastic fun in the away end. Friendly stewards and police leaving the ground.
Still sunny outside, met a bloodied Mr Sox, thanks to the aforementioned nutters, at the gates. leisurely walk back to the car park chatting to some very nice Stoke fans.

No traffic back to Brum, and home quicker than it sometimes takes to get home from VP on the buses.

Mr Plastic Away Fan loved it. A massive thank you to Mr Sox and Leeg. Much appreciated and i'm in your debt.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dicedlam on April 06, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
I did my usual, in that on 70 i buggered off from all communication and we won again. It is working well!


From what I saw, I thought Shawcross and Huth, perhaps inevitably, shackled the big man well until, well, boom.

Gabby ran his arse off first half.

Bowery did well and held up the ball, brought the midfield into play and helped us get control of the ball.

Bennett had a good game - said it on the thread,we have to get him more involved in whipping the ball in, he has a wand of a left foot that one day will make him a top player.

Weimann was quiet but worked his arse off.

Westwood and Delph are a really good partnership. Milner with them just in front would be the bomb.

I hope those banging on that the likes of Westwood, Lowton, Bennett, Vlaar etc are not up to it will ease off on them. They could be excellent next season with a bit of confidence if we can survive this. Lambert is a good manager in my opinion, streets better than TSM last season and the O'Neill that left us. We need to stick with this group, they are showing they have guts too. Stay up and use a bit of the new TV cash, free up more wages from those who offer nothing and trust Lambert to go again.


To the word ozzjim. Spot on.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 06, 2013, 06:24:06 PM
Has to be one of the most perfect awaydays ever. Good company up there, no traffic at all. Glorious weather so we sat on the bank by the away end watching the world go by. Into the ground, friendly police and stewards. Fantastic seat. Unlike Mr Sox who had a crap one down the front next to the nutters. Cracking atmosphere, 70 minutes of dominating the game where we should have scored a lot more than the one. Then 10 minutes of the scary Villa and then two late goals. Fantastic fun in the away end. Friendly stewards and police leaving the ground.
Still sunny outside, met a bloodied Mr Sox, thanks to the aforementioned nutters, at the gates. leisurely walk back to the car park chatting to some very nice Stoke fans.

No traffic back to Brum, and home quicker than it sometimes takes to get home from VP on the buses.

Mr Plastic Away Fan loved it. A massive thank you to Mr Sox and Leeg. Much appreciated and i'm in your debt.

Was he sitting next to Legion then?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Havencheese on April 06, 2013, 06:32:50 PM
I did my usual, in that on 70 i buggered off from all communication and we won again. It is working well!


From what I saw, I thought Shawcross and Huth, perhaps inevitably, shackled the big man well until, well, boom.

Gabby ran his arse off first half.

Bowery did well and held up the ball, brought the midfield into play and helped us get control of the ball.

Bennett had a good game - said it on the thread,we have to get him more involved in whipping the ball in, he has a wand of a left foot that one day will make him a top player.

Weimann was quiet but worked his arse off.

Westwood and Delph are a really good partnership. Milner with them just in front would be the bomb.

I hope those banging on that the likes of Westwood, Lowton, Bennett, Vlaar etc are not up to it will ease off on them. They could be excellent next season with a bit of confidence if we can survive this. Lambert is a good manager in my opinion, streets better than TSM last season and the O'Neill that left us. We need to stick with this group, they are showing they have guts too. Stay up and use a bit of the new TV cash, free up more wages from those who offer nothing and trust Lambert to go again.
I've always said that, as long as we stay up, stick with him. If we go down who else would you go to? Regardless it ain't gonna happen, he's flawed but I like what he's shaping out of some supposed no name signings, the rest can get better. Give it time for fruition as long as we stay up.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on April 06, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
Stated pre match we would win 0-2 but very happy with 1-3. great result and we will be up for Fulham game with a rocking Villa Park ........
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 06, 2013, 06:34:21 PM
PWS, our new lucky charm.

Somebody get this man tickets for norwich, manyoo and wigwam!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 06:35:05 PM
Two goals in the final three minutes handed Aston Villa's survival bid a welcome boost as they overcame Stoke City 3-1 at the Britannia Stadium to clamber out of the drop zone.

Gabriel Agbonlahor saw his first-half effort cancelled out by Michael Kightly, but a spectacular volley from Matthew Lowton and a stoppage-time strike from Christian Benteke enabled Villa to see off a Stoke side who continue to struggle in 2013 and find themselves just four points clear of the Premier League trapdoor.

Villa bossed the early exchanges, but it could have been different had the hosts been awarded the penalty they wanted after barely two minutes when Jonathan Walters smashed the ball into Nathan Baker's arm from close range.

Referee Mark Clattenburg deemed the contact unintentional, much to Potters boss Tony Pulis' obvious disgust on the sidelines. Whether awarding a spot-kick or not might have been harsh on Baker, it was still a let-off for the defender, whose shaky start continued as Kenwyne Jones muscled past only to blaze over.

Stoke looked up for the fight at that point but their optimism was pierced after just nine minutes as Lowton and Jordan Bowery combined from a throw-in to cut through the home defence. Lowton reached the byline all too easily and pulled back for Agbonlahor in front of goal and the striker rolled in at the second attempt after his initial effort was blocked.

The goal came against the run of play but it completely changed the game's momentum and Stoke had an escape when Robert Huth backed off and Bowery fired into the side-netting.

The anxiety among the home fans was obvious and alarm bells were ringing again when Andreas Weimann broke clear and struck the post with a low shot Begovic may have brushed with his fingertips.

Stoke managed to toughen up before the break but created no meaningful opportunities and were booed off by a concerned crowd at half-time.

A badly misplaced pass by Marc Wilson brought more jeers, but it soon became apparent the Republic of Ireland international was injured and he hobbled off. Pulis took the opportunity to strengthen his attack but ignored the claims of former England pair Michael Owen and Peter Crouch on the bench and sent on Cameron Jerome.

That brought a change of shape but it was some time before it started to yield greater end product as Villa continued to dominate play in an increasingly scrappy contest.

Stoke were, however, soon to enjoy their best spell of the game and, with confidence growing, Walters raced away down the left. He fed inside to Charlie Adam, who had been on the field just a matter of minutes, and he in turn teed up half-time substitute Kightly to stab home.

The equaliser transformed the atmosphere and the crowd finally began to find their voice.

But it was not to last as Lowton dramatically swung the game back in Villa's favour with a superb volley three minutes from time. The defender chested down an attempted clearance from a corner outside the box and fired back into the top corner.

Home hopes were deflated and, as the game ran towards injury time, Benteke raced through and calmly stroked the ball past Begovic for the third.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ktvillan on April 06, 2013, 06:35:42 PM
Have to admit I thought it was curtains when they equalised, so fair play for bouncing back.  They've been a bit of a bogey team for us so about time we got a win off them.  Not Gabby's biggest fan but he does tend to have a little burst of goals each season over just a few games, and fortunately they've come at a good time this season (shame about the missed sitter last week though). 

We've given ourselves a reasonable chance of staying up from this position even if some of the other teams have games in hand.  Hopefully Chelsea and QPR can help us out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 06:36:13 PM
Paul Lambert on vital win over Stoke.



Paul Lambert hailed Matt Lowton's stunning, decisive strike, insisting: "You won't see a better goal in Europe this weekend."

Villa were 1-0 up early on through Gabby Agbonlahor but, after dominating for long spells, Stoke conjured up a late second-half equaliser.

But up stepped Lowton with a wondergoal which flew past the otherwise impressive Asmir Begovic and gave the claret and blues the impetus to go on and claim the victory,

Christian Benteke completing the scoring late on.

Lambert was in good spirits after the 3-1 victory because of the tonic of three points.

But he was also mightily proud of the way his side came roaring back after being conceding in the closing minutes of the contest.

He said: "I thought it was deserved. I thought we were outstanding right from the off. We were terrific.

"We got the goal - well deserved - and the keeper has kept them in it in the first half.

"I thought we defended really strongly against a good side at set-pieces. Football-wise, I thought we were excellent.

"We looked terrific in certain parts of the game, the majority of the game I thought we were outstanding.

"We scored three good goals, especially the strike from Matty Lowton.

"I don't think you will see a better goal in the whole of Europe, let alone Britain. It was a world-class finish.

"He has just come from Sheffield United this season and not missed a minute of the games. That was one unbelievable finish.

"He scored an unbelievable goal against Swansea but that? I thought the chest control and volley was outstanding.

"I was a little bit concerned we weren't more ahead at half-time considering the dominance we had of the ball and the chances we had.

"But that's what can happen if you don't take your chances at this level.

"But every time we went forward we looked a threat.

"We could have been two-up just after the restart when the goalkeeper had made another outstanding save. But the second goal - I don't think you will see a better goal in Europe. The second goal took the wind out of the sails.

"I have real belief in the lads. We had a goal threat. Gabby was outstanding and then there was Weimann and Benteke too as well as Charles and Darren when they came on.

"Christian scored the third. He doesn't miss at the minute.

"I am proud of them, really, really proud of them. I am proud of them because at 1-1 the crowd got going.

"It was right against us but we weathered that and came back strongly. am proud of the way they kept going.

"The crowd was unbelievable today. Everyone is right behind us. We are playing really well at this moment in time."

Lambert admits Villa have the "wind in their sails now" heading into the final six games of the campaign.

He added: "They are playing really well but they have been since the turn of the year without sometimes getting the results.

"There have been games we have been two-up and we've managed to draw them after being pegged back.

"We are playing well and there's a lot of momentum there, a lot of really good footballers and collectively they are doing fantastic."
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on April 06, 2013, 06:39:42 PM
It's days like today & particularly moments like Lowton's goal which make it all worthwhile. Stunning goal, fantastic result & performance from everyone, Villa fans included.  There should be no negative comments from anyone. We're going in the right direction whilst others are going the opposite way.
 UTV
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2013, 06:44:55 PM
Slightly better angle.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2429129/Lowton_Goal_Better.gif)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Arsey on April 06, 2013, 06:47:49 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread

Indeed, agree totally. We've all said stupid things in there which have turned out be wrong as I'm sure most of us have done at matches.

I disagree.  Some of the comments made about Lambert before the game and then after the Stoke goal were ridiculous.  Some thought before posting would be advisable.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 06:47:53 PM
My thought process as he shaped to hit it. In the space of a few milliseconds it was "wtf you doing" to "that's going to be close" to "yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss" and then pandemonium broke out and all logical thought vanished.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 06, 2013, 06:55:59 PM
Right in front of the Villa fans...must have been quite the orgasm,
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: OCD on April 06, 2013, 07:00:47 PM
My thought process as he shaped to hit it. In the space of a few milliseconds it was "wtf you doing" to "that's going to be close" to "yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss" and then pandemonium broke out and all logical thought vanished.

I lost track of the ball in the sun. So my thinking was 'What are you doing'...'what's happened?'...'Oh what a goal'
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: seanthevillan on April 06, 2013, 07:04:20 PM
Slightly baffling verdict from Sky Sports:

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Best of the match...

Man of the match: Nathan Baker. Put his body on the line for the good of the Aston Villa cause.
Goal of the match. Not a tough choice. Matthew Lowton's 35-yard volley screamed into the top corner and gave Asmir Begovic no chance.
Moment of the match: A second half air shot from Kenwyne Jones summed up Stoke, and it came as no surprise to see them fold late on.


I thought Baker and Vlaar did ok but were never particularly convincing, and that was against a very poor side. Bennett was the most assured defender and did well with the ball.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 06, 2013, 07:05:45 PM
Fucking get the fuck in!

We went absolutely mental when Matt "Mark Delaney" Lowton smashed in the most unbelieveable goal you will see all season!

Benteke had been poor but put the cherry right on top of an excellent away performance. Big credit to the defence, even young Bennett who coped really well. Ok Stoke are utter shit, but we defended everything they hoofed at us. Matt Lowton got a fantastic block in just before they scored, but slipped to let them come in off the wing.

No matter, we have a new steel to us. Despite the fact we should have been four up, they had a "good" ten minutes when our shape left us a little and they scored. Normally we would wilt, but full credit to the team.

Only one team wanted to play football today and thankfully they won.

The crowd were the business too; so loud throughout. Get in!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: steffo on April 06, 2013, 07:06:10 PM
That goal will be as legend as Chris Nicholl v Everton in years to come. Perhaps for different reasons though.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ACVilla on April 06, 2013, 07:09:38 PM
I said it just after we lost 8 at Chelsea, i like Lambert, i like the philosiphy and ive never really felt as proud to be a Villa fan. If we stay up now we could have a really enjoyable ride.

Nice to see my ITK ref team news didn't let me down.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 06, 2013, 07:10:23 PM
Oh yes oh yes oh YES!!!

That Lowton wonder strike really changed things for us. After Adam had come on we were being bossed around and it felt like all our domination might give us just a point. I couldnt believe it went in.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on April 06, 2013, 07:19:17 PM
Are we first on MOTD? Doesn't mention us on the programme website.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 06, 2013, 07:22:11 PM
Are we first on MOTD? Doesn't mention us on the programme website.

Yes first game up.

@GaryLineker: The #MOTD running order: Stoke/Villa, West Brom/Arsenal, Norwich/Swansea, Reading/Saints. 4 belting games. BBC1 10.30
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Bad English on April 06, 2013, 07:22:52 PM
Fantastic early birthday present! Didn't see any of it as I was manning a cement mixer in the garden all day. As Dave said on page 1 "Fucking get in!"
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on April 06, 2013, 07:27:50 PM
Will the game be available to download online anywhere? Missed it and would like to watch it back in full if possible. Cheers.

Anyone? In return, I will be your internet friend.  8)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on April 06, 2013, 07:29:49 PM
Fantastic early birthday present! Didn't see any of it as I was sweating under fake leopard-skin sheets with a severe cold and fever in a dive hotel in Vladivostok...

Congratulations also to all those who had faith and knew we'd win this, unlike me. Sometimes a little faith can go a long way.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on April 06, 2013, 07:34:02 PM
Are we first on MOTD? Doesn't mention us on the programme website.

Yes first game up.

@GaryLineker: The #MOTD running order: Stoke/Villa, West Brom/Arsenal, Norwich/Swansea, Reading/Saints. 4 belting games. BBC1 10.30

Excellent, cheers.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 07:34:14 PM
Great write up in the Guardian



The contrasting emotions at the final whistle told their own story. Stoke supporters vented their anger after another dismal performance that deepens their relegation fears while the euphoric Aston Villa fans chanted "we are staying up" on the back of a thoroughly deserved win that lifts them out of the bottom three and within a point of their Midlands rivals.

Stoke have now won just one of their past 13 league matches and, on this evidence, Tony Pulis has a major battle on his hands to prevent them from slipping into the Championship. Villa were superior in every department and it would have been a travesty if they had failed to leave the Britannia Stadium with three points.

Ahead through Gabriel Agbonlahor's early goal, they were left to rue their first-half profligacy when the substitute Michael Kightly equalised 10 minutes from time. Matthew Lowton, though, restored Villa's advantage with a goal-of-the-season contender and Christian Benteke added the gloss to a hugely rewarding afternoon for Paul Lambert and his players when he broke through to add a third in the 90th minute.

It is difficult to do justice to just how bad Stoke were in the opening 45 minutes. The only comfort for the home supporters was that the game was not beyond their reach at the end of a first half in which Villa created numerous chances and Stoke looked absolutely clueless.

Apart from a decent penalty shout inside the opening 90 seconds, when Jonathan Walters's cross struck Nathan Baker on the arm, Stoke never looked like causing Villa any problems with their predictable and limited long- ball approach.

The manner in which Stoke fell behind was a sign of things to come. Marc Wilson and Matthew Etherington allowed Lowton to escape far too easily after a simple throw-in routine with Jordan Bowery on the right. Lowton picked out Agbonlahor's run towards the near post and, following Geoff Cameron's half-hearted attempt to block, the Villa forward tapped in the loose ball from three yards.

Villa were buoyant and, with the anxiety inside the Britannia Stadium almost tangible, sensed the game was there for the taking. Bowery's curling effort brushed the side-netting, Agbonlahor swept a left-foot shot just wide and Andreas Weimann, bursting through the middle of a porous Stoke defence, saw his shot superbly pushed on to the post by Asmir Begovic.

Another wonderful opportunity arrived in the 35th minute, when Agbonlahor escaped in the inside-left channel and bore down on goal. With Begovic off his line, the chip was on but Agbonlahor opted instead to try to take the ball around the Stoke keeper. It proved to be a bad decision, Agbonlahor's heavy touch followed by an embarrassing dive that ended up with him being booked.

Bowery had another chance to extend Villa's lead early in the second half but Begovic produced another fine stop. In contrast, it was 73 minutes before Stoke carved out a notable opening, when Cameron Jerome shrugged off Baker and cut the ball back for Kenwyne Jones, only for the striker to hit the ball against his standing foot.

Pulis responded by bringing on Charlie Adam in place of Ryan Shotton, who had endured a torrid afternoon, and the decision brought immediate reward. Walters came inside Lowton and picked out Adam, who nudged the ball on to Kightly for the winger to sweep home.

Villa, though, hit back in style. After Adam only half-cleared Charles N'Zogbia's corner, Lowton took the ball on his chest and thumped a 30-yard volley into the top corner. With Stoke pushing forward in vain, Benteke skipped past Ryan Shawcross and beat Begovic in the closing seconds.


 
 
 

 





 





 
 

 
 






 





Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on April 06, 2013, 07:35:13 PM


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Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: TaxDodger on April 06, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
Looking forward to this. I've not seen us win away since Heskey's winner at Wolves in 2010/11, a run of matches which has seen me witness 11 games, 7 of which were draws. We've also thrown away 2 goal leads on 3 separate occasions. The law of averages means we'll definitely, definitely win so everybody can stop worrying.

Told you so. This victory is all down to me. Matt Lowton may have scored the greatest, and maybe most important goal I have ever seen in the flesh, but I think we can all agree that I am the real hero today.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 07:39:50 PM


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Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on April 06, 2013, 07:40:23 PM
Told you so. This victory is all down to me. Matt Lowton may have scored the greatest, and maybe most important goal I have ever seen in the flesh, but I think we can all agree that I am the real hero today.

 ;D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on April 06, 2013, 07:42:55 PM
What a great win!
I am so disappointed in the score though. Predicted it on here last night and someone replied 'get a bet on, it's 25-1'
Well I thought about it but didn't. When I actually bet it never works out.
Oh well
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: seanthevillan on April 06, 2013, 07:44:42 PM
Here's a taster of my match report on pick our team:

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A crucial win. Three vital points. A huge release of pressure. This was all of the above. But as usual, this doesn't do justice to the goals, swift attacking, fluid passing, defensive suicide, infectious panic, and heart-stopping nerves that accompany every Villa game.

After 80 minutes in which we squandered three one-on-ones, countless other decent chances, and then surrendered the initiative before conceding a cheap, scruffy goal, I have to admit I was not my normal optimistic self. Lambert's surprising team selection paid off, just about, but it was blatantly obvious that we needed to change things for ten minutes or so before Stoke equalised. Lambert faltered, hesitated, dithered and Stoke capitalised with one of the two chances they created in the entire match.


Read the rest here and let me know what you think: http://pickourteam.com/premierleague/aston-villa/fansverdict/06-04-2013/stoke-city-vs-aston-villa#ixzz2PiAd2GLE

Cheers.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 06, 2013, 07:45:16 PM
Fucking hell, what a goal.  Just wow!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
Stat time.

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Fabian Delph returned to the starting line-up at Stoke and his influence could not have been greater.

Delph was a talismanic rock in the middle ground, winning tackles and showing a fine range of passing.

He emerged as No.1 in a range of categories when the stats were analysed on the final whistle.

Special praise also goes to Joe Bennett, who was superb offensively and defensively throughout the tough ninety minutes at the Britannia Stadium.

Delph was No.1 for passes with forty-five successful out of sixty made. Ashley Westwood was No.2 with forty-three successful out of fifty-eight made. Matt Lowton was No.5 with thirty-seven successful out of fifty made.

Delph was No.1 for attacking third passes with fifteen successful out of twenty-two made. Bennett was No.2 with thirteen successful out of sixteen made. Westwood was No.3 with eleven successful out of nineteen made.

Delph was also No.1 for tackles with three successful out of four made. Bennett and Lowton also enjoyed three successful out of four made.

Christian Benteke was No.1 for shots with two in total, two on target and one goal. Gabby Agbonlahor was No.2 with four in total, one on target and one goal. Lowton was No.4 with one in total, one on target and one goal. Jordan Bowery was No.5 with three in total and two on target.

Benteke and Westwood were joint No.3 for chances created with two.

Charles N'Zogbia, despite being a late substitute, was No.1 for take-ons, with three successful out of three attempted. Delph was No.4 with two successful out of two attempted.

Lowton was No.1 for interceptions with four. Agbonlahor was No.4 with three.

Ron Vlaar and Nathan Baker were joint No.1 for blocks with one.

Baker was No.1 for clearances with nine successful out of thirteen made. Vlaar was No.4 with one successful from seven made.

Benteke was No.2 for aerial duels, behind Kenwyne Jones, with seven won from fifteen made.

Benteke and Westwood were joint No.1 for fouls suffered with three.

Villa's joint No.1 pass combination was Delph to Bennett and Bennett to Delph with fourteen. No.3 was Lowton to Westwood with thirteen. Joint No.4 was Westwood to Lowton and Weimann to Lowton with eleven.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: arnie66 on April 06, 2013, 07:46:29 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 07:48:13 PM


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Twat! That was liquid football. He's got a foot like a traction engine.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on April 06, 2013, 07:48:17 PM
Lowton diving in YET AGAIN.  Sorry, he's shit.

What goes on in the match thread, stays in the match thread

Indeed, agree totally. We've all said stupid things in there which have turned out be wrong as I'm sure most of us have done at matches.

I disagree.  Some of the comments made about Lambert before the game and then after the Stoke goal were ridiculous.  Some thought before posting would be advisable.

And I made them all of course?  And, while we're at it, you've never posted anything un-sage worthy either of course?  I won't go looking because that'd be a bit sad....

A lot of bollocks is talked on here and none more so than on the match thread (when tensions are running high) which is the closest some of us get to most games (especially away).  As such you get off the cuff remarks and moaning. 

In my opinion, Lowton is currently poor at defending balls coming in form the flanks.  He might get better and certainly seems to have a great attitude, much passion and one hell of a volley!  So I stand by my apologetic criticism even if I looked a bit silly after his screamer!

I would also call Lambert a little lucky today as he did leave it later than required to replace a tiring Bowery with N'Zogbia.  He may also come good and I really hope he does. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 06, 2013, 07:49:49 PM


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Twat! That was liquid football. He's got a foot like a traction engine.

And another!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on April 06, 2013, 07:53:53 PM


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Twat! That was liquid football. He's got a foot like a traction engine.

And another!

Fantastic commentary from Pingu's dad.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on April 06, 2013, 07:58:51 PM
Leeg can stay off starting the threads !!   only joking Lee ;)
Vote for Dave. He will keep us up.

I've just sacked myself. Pre-match only.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Michel Sibble on April 06, 2013, 08:00:10 PM


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Twat! That was liquid football. He's got a foot like a traction engine.

And another!

SHIT! Did you see that?!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 08:00:45 PM
Leeg can stay off starting the threads !!   only joking Lee ;)
Vote for Dave. He will keep us up.

I've just sacked myself. Pre-match only.
haha .You may be reinstated after the ManU game ;)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on April 06, 2013, 08:07:38 PM
Has to be one of the most perfect awaydays ever. Good company up there, no traffic at all. Glorious weather so we sat on the bank by the away end watching the world go by. Into the ground, friendly police and stewards. Fantastic seat. Unlike Mr Sox who had a crap one down the front next to the nutters. Cracking atmosphere, 70 minutes of dominating the game where we should have scored a lot more than the one. Then 10 minutes of the scary Villa and then two late goals. Fantastic fun in the away end. Friendly stewards and police leaving the ground.
Still sunny outside, met a bloodied Mr Sox, thanks to the aforementioned nutters, at the gates. leisurely walk back to the car park chatting to some very nice Stoke fans.

No traffic back to Brum, and home quicker than it sometimes takes to get home from VP on the buses.

Mr Plastic Away Fan loved it. A massive thank you to Mr Sox and Leeg. Much appreciated and i'm in your debt.

I didn't even realise I was bleeding until you pointed it out. When Lowton scored it was mayhem down in the Row 2 moshpit. I ended up sat on the advertising board, fighting to stay off the pitch.

I was more prepared as Benteke & co broke through for the third and just side-stepped the nutters bull-fighter style as they charged forward.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 08:09:13 PM
Has to be one of the most perfect awaydays ever. Good company up there, no traffic at all. Glorious weather so we sat on the bank by the away end watching the world go by. Into the ground, friendly police and stewards. Fantastic seat. Unlike Mr Sox who had a crap one down the front next to the nutters. Cracking atmosphere, 70 minutes of dominating the game where we should have scored a lot more than the one. Then 10 minutes of the scary Villa and then two late goals. Fantastic fun in the away end. Friendly stewards and police leaving the ground.
Still sunny outside, met a bloodied Mr Sox, thanks to the aforementioned nutters, at the gates. leisurely walk back to the car park chatting to some very nice Stoke fans.

No traffic back to Brum, and home quicker than it sometimes takes to get home from VP on the buses.

Mr Plastic Away Fan loved it. A massive thank you to Mr Sox and Leeg. Much appreciated and i'm in your debt.

I didn't even realise I was bleeding until you pointed it out. When Lowton scored it was mayhem down in the Row 2 moshpit. I ended up sat on the advertising board, fighting to stay off the pitch.

I was more prepared as Benteke & co broke through for the third and just side-stepped the nutters bull-fighter style as they charged forward.

You can impress the ladies with your war wound!

Easy journey back home from mine?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on April 06, 2013, 08:19:25 PM
We might be many things but we aren't dull. 

For fcuks sake. 

Another win should see us safe, but we won't make it easy on ourselves.  That's about the only thing we can be certain of.

Draws v Fulham and Slumberland and a win over either Naarwich or Wigan should see us home.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 08:20:14 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
I would love to see a photo of Stoke Keepers face at that point!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on April 06, 2013, 08:21:55 PM
Well, I best open a bottle of ice chilled Sancerre
Delighted
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on April 06, 2013, 08:21:56 PM
You can impress the ladies with your war wound!

Easy journey back home from mine?

Yep, despite having driven from Stoke and dropping you off, I was only about 40 minutes later getting home than I am from a home game.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 08:22:36 PM
You can impress the ladies with your war wound!

Easy journey back home from mine?

Yep, despite having driven from Stoke and dropping you off, I was only about 40 minutes later getting home than I am from a home game.

Told you, i'm a good luck charm!

Thank again Mr Sox.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rutski on April 06, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
Superb win villa boys!
Finish the job off now and make the wigan game immaterial!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on April 06, 2013, 08:31:22 PM
I'm over the moon another three points towards safety it's nice to beat a non football playing team well done lads.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Fin Feds Dad on April 06, 2013, 08:32:35 PM
Massive win against our bogey side of recent years.

The first 45 mins was the worst 45 minutes I have ever seen from a Premier League side ( well, since the 2-2 against them at villa park a few years ago when carew scored)

Second half we lost our way - I was screaming at Lambert to make a change - everyone inside the ground could see Bowery was blowing out of his arse - he should have brought N'Zogbia on at least 20 minutes before he did.

Lowts goal was an absolute screamer - someone on Twitter has called it 'Goalporn' .

Massive shout for Guzan again today - came for absolutely everything - so different to going there and watching Friedel and Given shitting themselves for 90 mins.

Once gain the travelling support was immense - thought they were the quietest they have ever been.

And recently having been to Reading and QPR at home - out of the three sides Stoke were the worst technically - made QPR and Reading look like the Dutch Masters of the 70s - I couldn't watch that shit every week.

But it's about us - not them - and today was ace !
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on April 06, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
What a brilliant win, so proud of these young players and we have given ourselves some real hope of surviving, so so happy, I love our club so much, gotta go before I get misty eyed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 06, 2013, 08:33:56 PM
The more I see that goal the better it gets, the technique to bring the ball down and volley it with 2 players rushing out at him was exceptional, takes a lot of self-belief to even try that.  On top of that he volleyed it high off the ground which meant he gave it loads of topspin so it dipped over the keeper, you will struggle to find a better example of a chest and volley anywhere, it's near perfect.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: exigo on April 06, 2013, 08:34:41 PM
Just to cheer things up even more, tonight Alan Hutton starts against Barcelona. The perfect end to a perfect day.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 06, 2013, 08:42:38 PM
Not long got back (via a pub stop in Walsall). Great first half, lost our way in the second and made it harder for ourselves than we should have and it was looking like a draw but i guess no-one saw Lowton's goal coming. That's as crazy a goal celebration that i've been in for years. I thought Beneteke took his really well considering, that kid is going to be some player. He did'nt have the greatest of games but still did what he needed to do when it mattered.

Oh and for the first time ever, The Britannia Stadium was'nt like Siberia.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DeKuip on April 06, 2013, 08:45:41 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
I would love to see a photo of Stoke Keepers face at that point!

I loved the look on Benteke's face as he had a quick look to his left to see who he could lay it on a plate for and then must have thought "Nah, I'll have it".

This team is really growing and looking good and the manager deserves a lot of credit for the way he's got us playing and for what are proving to be a number of very good signings. They've all taken a lot of stick on here this season but I really do think the foundations have been put in place for a what will be a decent side.

A really good day out, and very quick exit from Stanley Matthews Way onto the A34 and home in no time.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 06, 2013, 08:53:57 PM
Just a quick look through the thread has reminded of one or two things. I thought we looked worse when we went to three in the middle. Also, Westwood was superb, that was his best game today i reckon.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on April 06, 2013, 09:01:50 PM
Did anybody else think the lino was a dick for not giving a free kick for the foul on Bowery?  5 seconds later Gabby scores.
We are not out of it yet, but we seem to have a little bit of luck, momentum and maturing young side.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andyh on April 06, 2013, 09:01:53 PM
What a marvellous  day out that was !
4-0 at half time would not have flattered us, but those big chances just would not go in.
I thought Bennett was massively improved today and Westwood is starting to look quite classy.
But a special word for Delph.
He was immense and covered very blade of grass by half time.
And his reaction to the fans at end with his fist pumping shows he is really up for it. I think we just might be finally seeing the player we hoped for, starting to take shape.

And the fans....well what can you say, the only word....magnificent.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 06, 2013, 09:02:49 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
I would love to see a photo of Stoke Keepers face at that point!

Found it!

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Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 06, 2013, 09:09:11 PM
Brilliant, brilliant result.

I was worried we'd fold when they equalised but that was the only period where we looked a little shaky. Stoke looked woeful, esp first half.

Great goal by Lowton and Benteke never looked like he'd miss in his '6-on-1' in the last minute.

Well played lads, well deserved and well done to all those on H&V who confidently predicted a victory.

Ithankyou

 
They've scored 3 in 7, 2 of those coming against Reading.
They've kept 1 clean sheet in the league since Christmas.
Get at 'em, get an early one, fan any anti-Pulis fire, get them feeling the tension. Being away from home will help us after the rather flat second-half against the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', I feel. Even with our fragility at the back, we must surely score more than they ever can, given the comparative potency of each attack.
3-1 us, Benteke (2) and Weimann, Sturk well and truly dragged into it.

See, said they were shite!!

Bit off with the goalscorers, but did anyone go for Lowton?

Bring on MOTD!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on April 06, 2013, 09:11:23 PM
Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on April 06, 2013, 09:12:40 PM
I did say on here 3-1 and backed it up at the bookies
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 09:20:02 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
I would love to see a photo of Stoke Keepers face at that point!

Found it!

(http://www.pixagen.com/storage/b3s/blink182-wtf.gif)
Hilarious
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 06, 2013, 09:21:15 PM
Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!

They sell Curry Pizza here in SanFrancisco. Bloody good it is too.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2013, 09:28:05 PM
Just to cheer things up even more, tonight Alan Hutton starts against Barcelona. The perfect end to a perfect day.

Just put it on after reading your post to see him bursting through to set up a chance. 1-0 to Barca now though. Turned it off after remembering the Argentine Bannan isn't playing. Barcelona? Meh. A bit 'after the Lord Mayor's show' following the Villa game.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 09:28:57 PM
Told you we'd win. Hadn't counted on Lowton turning into Peledonnaessi for a split second which is why I only went for 2-1.

Them 1 Us 2

My first away league game for donkeys years so we are guaranteed to win.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 09:29:13 PM
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Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 09:29:56 PM
Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Curry on a pizza base, doused with extra fries. The perfect supper.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 09:34:03 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
I would love to see a photo of Stoke Keepers face at that point!

Found it!

(http://www.pixagen.com/storage/b3s/blink182-wtf.gif)
Hilarious
Very bloody funny. UTV.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2013, 09:36:57 PM
Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Curry on a pizza base, doused with extra fries. The perfect supper.

I'm feeling so happy with my football team (and thus my identity, my culture, my roots and my class), there's only one thing I could have had for my tea tonight. Faggots and peas.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2013, 09:37:55 PM
Did anyone get a photo of the four Villa players bearing down on the Stoke keeper with none of their defenders anywhere near....I'd love to have that in my collection.
I would love to see a photo of Stoke Keepers face at that point!

Found it!

(http://www.pixagen.com/storage/b3s/blink182-wtf.gif)
Hilarious
Very bloody funny. UTV.

That's class.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 09:49:02 PM
what time is MOTD on please ?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on April 06, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
what time is MOTD on please ?

40 minutes from ...now, Dan! (10.30)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on April 06, 2013, 09:52:56 PM
10.30pm with Alan 'personality' Shearer and Mark 'I predict Villa to lose' Lawrenson.

We're on first too. Which is a rarity. Though there was a 1 in 4 chance.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 09:54:17 PM

Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Curry on a pizza base, doused with extra fries. The perfect supper.

Dan there is nothing British about your suggestion. You have been in lanza so long that you have forgotten your roots. Lamb (well mutton)  masala curry and fries. Pizza has no place here!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 06, 2013, 09:56:34 PM
Superb performance. Would have been gutted with a draw because we outplayed them all over the pitch. Real grounds for optimism now...we stand a chance of being safe by beating Sunderland. Finally, the support was magnificent as well...non stop from minute one to 95. Very proud tonight.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 09:58:20 PM
what time is MOTD on please ?

40 minutes from ...now, Dan! (10.30)
Cheers mate. How are you doing ? Back in the ranks of the Employed yet ?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 06, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Superb performance. Would have been gutted with a draw because we outplayed them all over the pitch. Real grounds for optimism now...we stand a chance of being safe by beating Sunderland. Finally, the support was magnificent as well...non stop from minute one to 95. Very proud tonight.

The support, like the last few games has been incredible. It looked mental there today. Happy, happy memories of that kind of celebration. Despite how depressing it has been at times the fans, especially those who have travelled have been brilliant.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on April 06, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
When the last two goals went in it was total pandemonium in that away end. Total and utter jubilation. Days like today live with you forever.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on April 06, 2013, 10:02:13 PM
Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!

They sell Curry Pizza here in SanFrancisco. Bloody good it is too.

Sounds awesome!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2013, 10:02:20 PM
Superb performance. Would have been gutted with a draw because we outplayed them all over the pitch. Real grounds for optimism now...we stand a chance of being safe by beating Sunderland. Finally, the support was magnificent as well...non stop from minute one to 95. Very proud tonight.

The support, like the last few games has been incredible. It looked mental there today. Happy, happy memories of that kind of celebration. Despite how depressing it has been at times the fans, especially those who have travelled have been brilliant.

Our support has been fucking fantastic for a team that has struggled three seasons in a row.

Stitch that O'Leary you twat.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Colhint on April 06, 2013, 10:02:44 PM
10.30pm with Alan 'personality' Shearer and Mark 'I predict Villa to lose' Lawrenson.

We're on first too. Which is a rarity. Though there was a 1 in 4 chance.

can't be first, Manyoo ladies second team played today
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 10:04:28 PM

Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Curry on a pizza base, doused with extra fries. The perfect supper.

Dan there is nothing British about your suggestion. You have been in lanza so long that you have forgotten your roots. Lamb (well mutton)  masala curry and fries. Pizza has no place here!
Sounds perfect aftab. I stand corrected. ;D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on April 06, 2013, 10:06:30 PM
what time is MOTD on please ?

40 minutes from ...now, Dan! (10.30)
Cheers mate. How are you doing ? Back in the ranks of the Employed yet ?
Cheers Dan, hopefully soon, as I'm going the self-employed route from May 1st!
Hopefully me and the villa will both greet a bright new dawn.
Everything crossed, of course! Enjoy the curry/pizza and the quite magnificent spectacle of the Villa shafting Stoke.  I will.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 10:20:30 PM
Excellent away  performances since the 8-0 drubbing at Chelsea.  won 2, drawn 3, lost 1. 2-2 Swansea, 2-2 WBA, 3-3 Everton (all 3 were wins denied  due to late equalisers)  1-2 Arsenal, 2-1 Reading, 3-1 Stoke.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 10:23:17 PM
what time is MOTD on please ?

40 minutes from ...now, Dan! (10.30)
Cheers mate. How are you doing ? Back in the ranks of the Employed yet ?
Cheers Dan, hopefully soon, as I'm going the self-employed route from May 1st!
Hopefully me and the villa will both greet a bright new dawn.
Everything crossed, of course! Enjoy the curry/pizza and the quite magnificent spectacle of the Villa shafting Stoke.  I will.
Great stuff matey. Just going on to one of those sites that we cannot talk about to watch MOTD. Stay safe young lady and all the best with your new venture. UTV to you and your future. Best of the best of luck.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on April 06, 2013, 10:28:54 PM
Good luck Louzie.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on April 06, 2013, 10:29:12 PM
I have lost my voice, much to the amusement of the missus.

Delph was my MoM, but every player gets plaudits. Gabby was immense, although he should have scored when he got through on their keeper. Did he dive, though?

What a fucking relief.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on April 06, 2013, 10:30:05 PM

Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Curry on a pizza base, doused with extra fries. The perfect supper.

Dan there is nothing British about your suggestion. You have been in lanza so long that you have forgotten your roots. Lamb (well mutton)  masala curry and fries. Pizza has no place here!
Sounds perfect aftab. I stand corrected. ;D

Well, I went with Pizza in the end because I spotted that Dominos were selling a pizza with a topping suggested by a viewer of this morning.  Yes I know that's a sad reason but I was curious!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: hipkiss92 on April 06, 2013, 10:43:08 PM
What the bloody hell was N'Zogbia doing there?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 06, 2013, 10:45:33 PM
Avoided it by taking the dog for his walk.  got back to see we were 1-0 up.  Would have taken the draw then, went to play squash, was told we were 2-1 up be an Albion fan before i started the game with 2 minutes to go.  Told the final result by a mate as I undressed in front of him and celebrated accordingly.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 06, 2013, 10:47:23 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 06, 2013, 10:47:54 PM
This cries out for selective quoting:

Taking the dog for his walk I undressed in front of him and celebrated accordingly.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 06, 2013, 10:51:09 PM

Shall I have a curry or a pizza while I watch Match of the Day?  Decisions decisions!!
Curry on a pizza base, doused with extra fries. The perfect supper.

Dan there is nothing British about your suggestion. You have been in lanza so long that you have forgotten your roots. Lamb (well mutton)  masala curry and fries. Pizza has no place here!
Sounds perfect aftab. I stand corrected. ;D

Well, I went with Pizza in the end because I spotted that Dominos were selling a pizza with a topping suggested by a viewer of this morning.  Yes I know that's a sad reason but I was curious!
Curiosity gets you into trouble young man.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 06, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
This cries out for selective quoting:

Taking the dog for his walk I undressed in front of him and celebrated accordingly.

You journalists.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 10:54:47 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 10:57:49 PM
The only thing I didn't agree with was Shearer saying we started well. I thought we looked a bit ropey opening 5 mins or so. After that we were in control.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 06, 2013, 11:00:14 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 06, 2013, 11:01:22 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless

Lawrenson said we played very well indeed.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 11:02:05 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.

I found it quite amusing that on the big screen in the ground they showed the Villa fans during the 19th minute. The first shot of the Stoke fans was of them all arm waving in anger at how shit we were making Stoke look.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 11:02:27 PM
I'd also like to say that I can't decide which was the more erotic sight. Lowton twatting it in or the sight of 4 Villa players running towards Begovic with no other Stoke player in the same postcode. I have much manlove for Villa tonight.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 06, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.


No tears would be shed if they went down. They've bored the PL for too long now. Let's hope they go the way of Wimbledon, never to darken our door again.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 06, 2013, 11:03:47 PM
Regarding the penalties thing - I see their 2 ball to hand incidents that can go either way and raise them gabby not falling over fast enough (and being booked for his troubles) and Weimann bouncing back up as 2 incidents of Villa players being caught in the box but not getting anything so probably 4 incidents that were all 50/50 and the ref was consistent in not giving any of them, seems fair to me.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on April 06, 2013, 11:04:16 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.


No tears would be shed if they went down. They've bored the PL for too long now. Let's hope they go the way of Wimbledon, never to darken our door again.

QPR and Stoke to go down please. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 06, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
What a great win!
I am so disappointed in the score though. Predicted it on here last night and someone replied 'get a bet on, it's 25-1'
Well I thought about it but didn't. When I actually bet it never works out.
Oh well


33/1 to win 3-1. And yes I had a fiver on it.  😀😀
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on April 06, 2013, 11:04:42 PM
I'd also like to say that I can't decide which was the more erotic sight. Lowton twatting it in or the sight of 4 Villa players running towards Begovic with no other Stoke player in the same postcode. I have much manlove for Villa tonight.
Nice to see that two of those four players were Bent and N'Zogbia, suggests that they've still got a bit of hard-work left in them.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danno on April 06, 2013, 11:05:05 PM
The motd commentator made me laugh talking about Michael Owen "he might as well retire than be sat there".
Just a tad harsh!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 11:06:39 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.


No tears would be shed if they went down. They've bored the PL for too long now. Let's hope they go the way of Wimbledon, never to darken our door again.

QPR and Stoke to go down please. 

In an ideal world those going down would be Stoke, QPR and West Ham. Plus Sunderland to be relegated due to a new FA rule about having 2 consecutive wanker managers.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 11:06:44 PM
I'd also like to say that I can't decide which was the more erotic sight. Lowton twatting it in or the sight of 4 Villa players running towards Begovic with no other Stoke player in the same postcode. I have much manlove for Villa tonight.
I do hope this night passes safely for you!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 11:11:35 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless

Lawrenson said we played very well indeed.
Did  I get it the wrong way round that's what a bottle and a half does for you
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 11:12:06 PM
I'd also like to say that I can't decide which was the more erotic sight. Lowton twatting it in or the sight of 4 Villa players running towards Begovic with no other Stoke player in the same postcode. I have much manlove for Villa tonight.
I do hope this night passes safely for you!

So do I!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on April 06, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless
Well he has predicted us to get 21 points so far (and QPR an unbelievable 52 points) so probably feels we let him down.
Always a relief to see him predict us to lose
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 06, 2013, 11:12:22 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.


No tears would be shed if they went down. They've bored the PL for too long now. Let's hope they go the way of Wimbledon, never to darken our door again.

QPR and Stoke to go down please. 

In an ideal world those going down would be Stoke, QPR and West Ham. Plus Sunderland to be relegated due to a new FA rule about having 2 consecutive wanker managers.

Surely that should say 4...

Keane
Bruce
Mon
Dicanio

Can't see anyone there who isn't a complete wanker
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 06, 2013, 11:12:53 PM
I'm glad they made a point of mentioning the disgruntled home support.


No tears would be shed if they went down. They've bored the PL for too long now. Let's hope they go the way of Wimbledon, never to darken our door again.

QPR and Stoke to go down please. 

In an ideal world those going down would be Stoke, QPR and West Ham. Plus Sunderland to be relegated due to a new FA rule about having 2 consecutive wanker managers.

Surely that should say 4...

Keane
Bruce
Mon
Dicanio

Can't see anyone there who isn't a complete wanker

Truth.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 06, 2013, 11:15:09 PM
I think Bruce is OK.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on April 06, 2013, 11:16:20 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless

Lawrenson said we played very well indeed.
Did  I get it the wrong way round that's what a bottle and a half does for you

No, they both said it!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on April 06, 2013, 11:20:08 PM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless

Lawrenson said we played very well indeed.
Did  I get it the wrong way round that's what a bottle and a half does for you

No, they both said it!
lol
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 06, 2013, 11:23:30 PM
When the last two goals went in it was total pandemonium in that away end. Total and utter jubilation. Days like today live with you forever.

Couldn't have put it better. Still buzzing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 11:28:26 PM
Nigel Adkins just said "and you go again"
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on April 06, 2013, 11:31:16 PM
Lowtons' goal is even better with German commentary. Thanks for the clip whoever posted it.

Gooooooooal!! Fantastischesudentenlandabwehrluftwaffe!!!! Lowton rules Britannia!!!!!

Much better than Barry sodding Davies.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on April 06, 2013, 11:32:26 PM
Up to the dizzy heights of 16th now!  Let's hope Chelsea and QPR make sure it stays that way!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on April 06, 2013, 11:32:39 PM
Wow, we deserved it and although we arent out of the woods, that was the best result of the season so far.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 06, 2013, 11:34:07 PM
I did my usual, in that on 70 i buggered off from all communication and we won again. It is working well!


From what I saw, I thought Shawcross and Huth, perhaps inevitably, shackled the big man well until, well, boom.

Gabby ran his arse off first half.

Bowery did well and held up the ball, brought the midfield into play and helped us get control of the ball.

Bennett had a good game - said it on the thread,we have to get him more involved in whipping the ball in, he has a wand of a left foot that one day will make him a top player.

Weimann was quiet but worked his arse off.

Westwood and Delph are a really good partnership. Milner with them just in front would be the bomb.

I hope those banging on that the likes of Westwood, Lowton, Bennett, Vlaar etc are not up to it will ease off on them. They could be excellent next season with a bit of confidence if we can survive this. Lambert is a good manager in my opinion, streets better than TSM last season and the O'Neill that left us. We need to stick with this group, they are showing they have guts too. Stay up and use a bit of the new TV cash, free up more wages from those who offer nothing and trust Lambert to go again.

Exactly - this was the shittest ever time to take over the Villa (GT MkI aside. 3 seasons of car crashes which cracks were papered over.

Get rid of the overpiad twunts based on stupid wages (50% successful and easier said than done), then weed out the troublemakers, slightly easier (50% successful), then create a team out of nothing (50% succesful).

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 06, 2013, 11:38:41 PM
I think Bruce is OK.

I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on April 06, 2013, 11:41:57 PM
Even the MOTD "analysts" are backing us.  Gods bless you Lowton, that was the moment that svaed our Premier League status.  The equaliser almost made me cry, that shot did make me cry.  Beautiful.  Fulham and Sunderland will confirm it.  I'm so happy.  So. So. So. Happy.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 06, 2013, 11:44:01 PM
MOTD was great tonight. Fully intendedn to watch in dignified manner but...
My lad got put of bed to watch it and we got righteously carried away and did the "living-room sprint" as we scored much to the disgust of my long-suffering wife - she is appalled as we are planning to add away trips to our season tickets next year

Can't wait for Fulham...
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 06, 2013, 11:46:34 PM
Lowtons' goal is even better with German commentary. Thanks for the clip whoever posted it.

Gooooooooal!! Fantastischesudentenlandabwehrluftwaffe!!!! Lowton rules
I thought the German commentator said "das war wie V-Rakete geht in die Herzen von London"
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on April 06, 2013, 11:48:03 PM
I think Bruce is OK.

I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.

Hes a brilliant pundit.

All that simmering anger and the way he seems to be holding back from calling the rest of them a bunch of ******.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on April 06, 2013, 11:52:57 PM
I think Bruce is OK.

I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.

Even in the TV studio Keane's an intimidating fucker. Fantastic footballer but an arsehole of a man. His comments about Mick McCarthy & subsequent walk out on his country speaks volumes about his character.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 06, 2013, 11:53:48 PM


I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.

Hes a brilliant pundit.

All that simmering anger and the way he seems to be holding back from calling the rest of them a bunch of c***s.

Considering he has always wanted to be the best and has got into trouble in the past for telling it like it is, I'm surprised he hasn't just stuck into Clive, Chiles and Townsend. Imagine what he would be like with Lawro.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on April 07, 2013, 12:18:06 AM
Happy? No - not for the first 86 minutes.
Fickle? yes for all 1088098734 minutes
Angry? yes for about 5-8 minutes (signed off)
Ecstatic? yes - and still am....

Thought this was another case of "here we go again" - then Lowton - a player I have slagged a bit, scores what I will call "the goal of the new generation" that might save our survival!!!

If we do - he should go into the hall of fame for that.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 07, 2013, 12:21:13 AM
I think Bruce is OK.

I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.

Even in the TV studio Keane's an intimidating fucker. Fantastic footballer but an arsehole of a man. His comments about Mick McCarthy & subsequent walk out on his country speaks volumes about his character.

I think he was right to slag off the FAI but was wrong to make it an issue with his own team mates and manager  in a public manner. I think Big Mick would have beaten the crap out of him had he not walked out. He looked like a fucking spoilt idiot in 2002. He didn't face the manager down - as Mick said '.. I want to talk about the 22 players who are here rather than the one(s) who aren't here...'
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt C on April 07, 2013, 12:40:38 AM
Thoroughly deserved win - it would have been a traversty if Stoke had got anything from that; we were vastly superior.

There's been a step change in this team since half time against Newcastle and we seem to be on an upward curve now. Long may that continue.

Seperately, delighted to see Stoke's rancid football is now in very real danger of being consigned to the Championship.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 07, 2013, 12:57:45 AM
I think Bruce is OK.

I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.

Even in the TV studio Keane's an intimidating fucker. Fantastic footballer but an arsehole of a man. His comments about Mick McCarthy & subsequent walk out on his country speaks volumes about his character.

I think he was right to slag off the FAI but was wrong to make it an issue with his own team mates and manager  in a public manner. I think Big Mick would have beaten the crap out of him had he not walked out. He looked like a fucking spoilt idiot in 2002. He didn't face the manager down - as Mick said '.. I want to talk about the 22 players who are here rather than the one(s) who aren't here...'

Please don't go down the the Mick V Keane fiasco again as we may be blessed with that nut job cb anytime soon making an appearance.  Let's leave it at Keane is a good pundit and his managerial abilities along with his attitude to the end of his international career as questionable.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: john2710 on April 07, 2013, 01:11:48 AM
Whilst we are by no means safe, yet, it's very satisfying & sometimes frustrating, to watch these players grow into a team. We are heading in the right direction, with the right mentality. If it continues Lambert deserves praise for holding his nerve.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on April 07, 2013, 01:16:08 AM
Lowtons' goal is even better with German commentary. Thanks for the clip whoever posted it.

Gooooooooal!! Fantastischesudentenlandabwehrluftwaffe!!!! Lowton rules
I thought the German commentator said "das war wie V-Rakete geht in die Herzen von London"

He probably did, Aftab. It's 45 years since I did German at school. Jet propulsion even longer.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 07, 2013, 01:31:31 AM
3 wins out of 4. Weird.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on April 07, 2013, 01:39:51 AM
and 3 wins against the sides around us.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 07, 2013, 01:47:08 AM
3 wins out of 4. Weird.

And 4 out of 7. Not bad for a side that was never going to win again this season.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 07, 2013, 01:59:29 AM
3 wins out of 4. Weird.

And 4 out of 7. Not bad for a side that was never going to win again this season.

But then of course these young players are rubbish, and Vlaar can't defend, and where's Genk and can we wipe it up with a handkerchief and Lambert's a bumbling Scottish twat etc etc etc.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 07, 2013, 02:01:13 AM
We pick ourselves up and go on to tea bag another side.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 07, 2013, 02:20:24 AM
One thing I want to add, Walters is an odious little shit.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on April 07, 2013, 02:37:29 AM
Just heard Pulis on the radio, 'We've got to dust ourselves down and we go again' ;D
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on April 07, 2013, 02:44:56 AM
Oh, and the game, thought we were excellent but the Stoke equaliser made for one of the typical roller-coaster performances we seem to specialise  in this season. I don't think I've celebrated a goal as much as I did Lowton's beauty in a long time. I'm still buzzing  because of it now. Sometimes there's no drug like seeing us put together a beautiful win.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 07, 2013, 02:46:17 AM
One thing I want to add, Walters is an odious little shit.

Big shit brickhouse you mean, the size of 'im. What did he do though?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on April 07, 2013, 02:48:25 AM
I think Bruce is OK.

I think Keane is okay.  Not as a manager, he's evidently quite crap at that, but as a pundit, he's great, the nearest thing we have to Eamonn Dunphy, that can't be a bad thing.

Hes a brilliant pundit.

All that simmering anger and the way he seems to be holding back from calling the rest of them a bunch of c***s.

I'm not sure he is that great as a pundit.  Spends most of his time on air saying that certain players aren't "top players" and that teams "aren't top teams" and offers very little analysis.  He clearly still has a number of grudges to bear (Manchester United and Ireland being two of them) and although it can be amusing at times, it can hardly be classed as considered opinion.  Dixon and Southgate are better pundits (in my opinion of course), but Chiles should never be allowed near a football studio.   
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: TheSandman on April 07, 2013, 02:56:32 AM
I thought Keane came across very well as a pundit on ITV when they were discussing the Nani sending off against Real Madrid, being that he was the only one who actually understood the rules and was willing to vociferously disagree with the rest of the panel. Though maybe I'm only saying that as he agreed with me.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on April 07, 2013, 03:06:32 AM
I thought Keane came across very well as a pundit on ITV when they were discussing the Nani sending off against Real Madrid, being that he was the only one who actually understood the rules and was willing to vociferously disagree with the rest of the panel. Though maybe I'm only saying that as he agreed with me.

I wonder if he'd have been so supportive of the decision if he'd been sent off for that challenge when he was playing?  He came out with a similar comments when Ireland were beaten in France by "Henry's handball" and he does seem to use such incidents to have a dig at those he clearly still has a grievance with.  It is amusing to watch the others on the panel squirm when he gets going though.   
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on April 07, 2013, 03:53:07 AM
Oh, and the game, thought we were excellent but the Stoke equaliser made for one of the typical roller-coaster performances we seem to specialise  in this season. I don't think I've celebrated a goal as much as I did Lowton's beauty in a long time. I'm still buzzing  because of it now. Sometimes there's no drug like seeing us put together a beautiful win.

I take comfort from the thought that had I stayed up and watched the match, he probably would've sliced it out for a throw-in to Stoke!

It was a cracking finish though - just seen the German commentary version of it. It's as much the chest down and the composure with players rushing at him, and also spotting the keeper off his line as seeing the ball looping through the air and into the goal for me. That was a pretty special finish.

I suppose with the score at 1-1 and only a few minutes left, he just thought: right, fuck it, I'm having a go...wonder if he'd have had a pop if it was still 1-0?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Caiphus on April 07, 2013, 06:19:50 AM
I take comfort from the thought that had I stayed up and watched the match, he probably would've sliced it out for a throw-in to Stoke!

It was a cracking finish though - just seen the German commentary version of it. It's as much the chest down and the composure with players rushing at him, and also spotting the keeper off his line as seeing the ball looping through the air and into the goal for me. That was a pretty special finish.

I suppose with the score at 1-1 and only a few minutes left, he just thought: right, fuck it, I'm having a go...wonder if he'd have had a pop if it was still 1-0?

The whole world went silent for me, I didn't process any celebrations or anything for a second or two... I thought the ball was bouncing out of the hoarding from just behind the goal before my brain processed that the net was oscillating from the inside.

It took me another five seconds to realise my mouth was dangling open and I was finger-banging a cushion.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 07, 2013, 07:28:51 AM
It was an unbelievably shit clearance from Adam. Like a slow full-toss. It virtually invited Lowton to have a ding at goal. I dread to think what Pulis said to him afterwards.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 07, 2013, 07:43:50 AM
Just heard Pulis on the radio, 'We've got to dust ourselves down and we go again' ;D

Ha ha. Stoke now, are what we were in January.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on April 07, 2013, 07:47:29 AM
It was an unbelievably shit clearance from Adam. Like a slow full-toss. It virtually invited Lowton to have a ding at goal. I dread to think what Pulis said to him afterwards.
Not sure Adam was much to blame. The ball came out of one of the Spheres; Stratosphere, Ionosphere - take your pick. It was a rather pleasant and unexpected surprise for mankind what happened next! Hopefully this small step is a huge leap for the next generation Villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 07, 2013, 07:53:48 AM
If we can score three goals in each of our remaining fixtures we will win all of them.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on April 07, 2013, 07:55:51 AM
Two very quick observations from football first:

Our passing and movement is getting better and better all the time. I remember watching many a premier league side pass the ball in angles and keep the ball under pressure while we seemed only capable of the easy ball or one over the top. It's great to see how comfortable our full backs and central midfielders are.

Having said that, we're going to have to get out of the habit of completely panicking for amproprtion of every game. We completely fell to pieces for ten minutes yesterday. An unkind verdict would be that as soon as stoke put any remotely decent stuff together, we panicked and our defensive shape was all over the place. Tactically, getting more shape and discipline into our defending has got to be this summer's coaching priority number one. Hopefully we can stick with the 4231 / 433 shape to help bring about that cohesion. I don't think our 3 at the back period helped. If lambert had stopped playing that earlier we'd have more points now I think
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on April 07, 2013, 08:00:49 AM
We pick ourselves up and go on to tea bag another side.



Ace.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on April 07, 2013, 08:11:17 AM
Walters moaned and moaned all game. He alao had Bennett in a headlock at one point, yet managed to get a free kick!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 07, 2013, 08:29:19 AM
Well to go by the MOTD highlights, stoke were robbed by cheating Villa.
Gary said Villa were excellent.Lawro just sat looking clueless.
He does that vey well and steals licence payers money whist doing it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 07, 2013, 08:40:36 AM
They've scored 3 in 7, 2 of those coming against Reading.
They've kept 1 clean sheet in the league since Christmas.
Get at 'em, get an early one, fan any anti-Pulis fire, get them feeling the tension. Being away from home will help us after the rather flat second-half against the 'The Mighty Reds YNWA', I feel. Even with our fragility at the back, we must surely score more than they ever can, given the comparative potency of each attack.
3-1 us, Benteke (2) and Weimann, Sturk well and truly dragged into it.
Your really need to get better at this. A bit more imagination with goal scorers would help!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 07, 2013, 08:43:06 AM
One thing I want to add, Walters is an odious little shit.

Big shit brickhouse you mean, the size of 'im. What did he do though?
How , just how, does he manages to earn money as a top flight FOOBALLER?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 08:50:33 AM
Well, I was out and so relied  on the R5L commentary and  - TBF - Danny Mills was very complimentary about us.

Which is nice.

Stoke have the worst form in 2013 in the P-ship which is why I thought we were in with a shout; thank God we pulled it off.

Onwards and upwards.

Unlike Francis on TV, struggled to say anything complimentary about Villa unless it was unavoidable.

I've always thought TF was quite complimentary about us whenever I've listened to him commentate.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Risso on April 07, 2013, 09:41:21 AM
It was an unbelievably shit clearance from Adam. Like a slow full-toss. It virtually invited Lowton to have a ding at goal. I dread to think what Pulis said to him afterwards.
Not sure Adam was much to blame. The ball came out of one of the Spheres; Stratosphere, Ionosphere - take your pick. It was a rather pleasant and unexpected surprise for mankind what happened next! Hopefully this small step is a huge leap for the next generation Villa.

Someone on MOTD said he'd never strike a ball that well again.  He's done it twice this season!  We need to adopt it as a tactic asap.  Instead of shooting in the area, the forwards should balloon the ball back into midfield for Lowton to chest it and smash it home.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lizz on April 07, 2013, 09:43:36 AM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: amfy on April 07, 2013, 09:54:46 AM
A special thanks to Joe C for his suggestion that we head for that hellhole - something I wouldn't otherwise have considered. I spent most of the game thinking how much better that 1-0 we were, & when they equalised there was a bit of a 'here we go again' feeling, although we stayed behind the boys brilliantly. When Lowton scored I have a clear memory of telling myself to stop screaming 3 times before I actually managed to shut up! On a final note, the experimental cider drinking on just one Greggs pasty was probably not the best idea I have ever had. I don't actually remember getting through my front door and Mike found me on the floor! All in all - this is what away days should always be made of!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 10:06:06 AM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

:-)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 07, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
One thing I want to add, Walters is an odious little shit.

Big shit brickhouse you mean, the size of 'im. What did he do though?
How , just how, does he manages to earn money as a top flight FOOBALLER?

Kenwyne Jones was awful again as well. We had a local radio station on as we were waiting to leave the coach park and those Sturkies were not a happy bunch.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on April 07, 2013, 10:09:58 AM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

:-)
A beautiful photo that.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on April 07, 2013, 10:16:17 AM
Well, I was out and so relied  on the R5L commentary and  - TBF - Danny Mills was very complimentary about us.

Which is nice.

Stoke have the worst form in 2013 in the P-ship which is why I thought we were in with a shout; thank God we pulled it off.

Onwards and upwards.

Unlike Francis on TV, struggled to say anything complimentary about Villa unless it was unavoidable.

I've always thought TF was quite complimentary about us whenever I've listened to him commentate.

He said something like Agbonlahor is using his intelligence!  Then Gabby dives in the area and starts waving his fingers about for some reason.

TF also stated that a Stoke player (forgotten who it was) couldnt possibily carry on after a foul....then he did just that!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

:-)
A beautiful photo that.

I don't think you'll see that scenario in any other PL game, it's quite extraordinary!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on April 07, 2013, 10:30:35 AM
What a day.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 07, 2013, 10:34:09 AM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

:-)
A beautiful photo that.

I don't think you'll see that scenario in any other PL game, it's quite extraordinary!

Agreed , cant think of another instance like it off the top of my head.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: nodge on April 07, 2013, 10:34:48 AM
And hangovers don't seem so bad when you wake up and remember that the Villa won and that's why you feel like this.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 07, 2013, 10:42:08 AM

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on April 07, 2013, 10:53:59 AM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

:-)
I would like to hear the former Iraqi information Minister's take on this situation?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 07, 2013, 11:07:54 AM

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I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.

Just imagine if he had missed and Stoke had gone up the other end and equalised. It's a thin line and all that...
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 07, 2013, 11:10:31 AM

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I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.

Just imagine if he had missed and Stoke had gone up the other end and equalised. It's a thin line and all that...

It's hardly a thin line. That's a very big 'if'.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 07, 2013, 11:13:12 AM
Not when it comes to the Villa and the last five minutes of games Dave, anything is possible!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on April 07, 2013, 11:20:12 AM
Not when it comes to the Villa and the last five minutes of games Dave, anything is possible!

If, he'd missed and if, they'd got the ball, and if, they'd gone up the other end and if, they'd scored.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: maidstonevillain on April 07, 2013, 11:26:37 AM
Not when it comes to the Villa and the last five minutes of games Dave, anything is possible!

If, he'd missed and if, they'd got the ball, and if, they'd gone up the other end and if, they'd scored.
If he had missed, and he's missed easier ones, they would have got the ball, and the ball would ahve gone up to the other end, ........
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on April 07, 2013, 11:40:38 AM
Not when it comes to the Villa and the last five minutes of games Dave, anything is possible!

If, he'd missed and if, they'd got the ball, and if, they'd gone up the other end and if, they'd scored.
If he had missed, and he's missed easier ones, they would have got the ball, and the ball would ahve gone up to the other end, ........

Then the referee would have sent off half the Villa team for, you know, whatever, and the Stoke would have scored 6 goals in the next 30 seconds, and Villa would have been sold off and bought by Kim Jong of North Korea...

I mean, Benteke has missed chances before, and no other striker in the world does that - misses chances sometimes I mean.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 07, 2013, 11:44:30 AM

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I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.

Just imagine if he had missed and Stoke had gone up the other end and equalised. It's a thin line and all that...

That's assuming the keeper collected the ball...which he wouldn't have.  The best scenario for him is that he saves it with his feet, Benteke picks it up at a tight angle and can then pass it to one of the other 3 who on receiving it realize the potentially dangerous situation they are in. Without hesitation they then run the ball into the corner to run the clock down. 

Not really, they walk it into an empty net.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: davisa on April 07, 2013, 11:45:39 AM
Matty Lowts was even in my dream last night.  I Don't think i've gone so crazy at an away game since Gabby bagged the Winner at St. Andrews in 2010.  If we had of have come away from the ground without the three points i would have felt seriously robbed, we looked comfortable all game.  I saw Matt Lowtons brother standing on his chair almost in tears when that quite marvellous strike hit the slack net up our end, it was definately an 'i was there' moment.

And with the whole Benteke scenario, at the end of the day he didn't strike the ball until Begovic's left knee was planted on the ground therefore he knew he was going to score.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Greg N'Ash on April 07, 2013, 11:52:54 AM
Probably the best performance of the season.  Carry on like that and we'll stay up with ease.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on April 07, 2013, 12:14:23 PM
Probably the best performance of the season.  Carry on like that and we'll stay up with ease.
If we keep on beating the sides we should be beating, we'll have no problems, and we'll be looking better going into next season too. We've got 3 very winnable games to come. Utd and Chelsea will probably prove fruitless, though I'd actually fancy taking something off Chelsea. I think we're due a good performance against that mob after earlier in the season.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on April 07, 2013, 12:17:13 PM
Fuckin hell. I just watched on youtube the one he scored against Swansea at vp- very similar just on his left rather than his right. Shooooooooooooot!!!!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 12:21:46 PM
Fuckin hell. I just watched on youtube the one he scored against Swansea at vp- very similar just on his left rather than his right. Shooooooooooooot!!!!

I don't wish to take anything away from the lad, but now he's mastered the art of scoring belters (which is great), he can concentrate on mastering the art of defending.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on April 07, 2013, 12:45:29 PM
I would have liked to have seen Lambert's reaction to the Lowton goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on April 07, 2013, 12:47:06 PM

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.

Just imagine if he had missed and Stoke had gone up the other end and equalised. It's a thin line and all that...

Fuck me Richard. Look what following Villa has done to you ;)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on April 07, 2013, 12:58:04 PM
One thing I love about this team is their togetherness and spirit - the way they celebrated the goal with Lowton told me a lot about their team spirit.  Even Bent was one of the first over to him warmly congratulating him and looking genuinely pleased for the lad.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on April 07, 2013, 01:31:00 PM
Fuckin hell. I just watched on youtube the one he scored against Swansea at vp- very similar just on his left rather than his right. Shooooooooooooot!!!!

I don't wish to take anything away from the lad, but now he's mastered the art of scoring belters (which is great), he can concentrate on mastering the art of defending.

I know a few Blades fans and they said he was better in midfield for them last season
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on April 07, 2013, 01:33:11 PM
He slipped over for their goal yesterday. Good footballer, good technique, but does need to improve at the back. Makes some silly mistakes, but then is very young, and will forever be better than Hutton.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 01:34:08 PM
Fuckin hell. I just watched on youtube the one he scored against Swansea at vp- very similar just on his left rather than his right. Shooooooooooooot!!!!

I don't wish to take anything away from the lad, but now he's mastered the art of scoring belters (which is great), he can concentrate on mastering the art of defending.

I know a few Blades fans and they said he was better in midfield for them last season

That seems applicable to a few of our defenders.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on April 07, 2013, 01:42:21 PM
Great picture

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2304919-19220569000005DC-258_634x456.jpg)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: john e on April 07, 2013, 01:46:53 PM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.


I think it might have been Chelsea when we were 7 down   
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 07, 2013, 01:59:19 PM

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.

Just imagine if he had missed and Stoke had gone up the other end and equalised. It's a thin line and all that...

Fuck me Richard. Look what following Villa has done to you ;)

And I was only saying it tongue in cheek TV! Trust Woodhall to get hold of it at his most pedantic!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 07, 2013, 02:18:41 PM
Well, I was out and so relied  on the R5L commentary and  - TBF - Danny Mills was very complimentary about us.

Which is nice.

Stoke have the worst form in 2013 in the P-ship which is why I thought we were in with a shout; thank God we pulled it off.

Onwards and upwards.

Unlike Francis on TV, struggled to say anything complimentary about Villa unless it was unavoidable.

I've always thought TF was quite complimentary about us whenever I've listened to him commentate.

He said something like Agbonlahor is using his intelligence!  Then Gabby dives in the area and starts waving his fingers about for some reason.

TF also stated that a Stoke player (forgotten who it was) couldnt possibily carry on after a foul....then he did just that!

That was actually about Westwood.  Shawcross caught him on the side of the foot and he went down and held his foot, after which francis stated that there was no contact and it must be a muscle injury and he couldn't possibly carry on.  All of which was said as a reply was showing shawcross land on Westwood's foot.  It was as if he'd started talking and couldn't bring himself to admit he was wrong so he carried on despite clearly being wrong.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on April 07, 2013, 02:35:43 PM
Good luck Louzie.
'Great stuff matey. Just going on to one of those sites that we cannot talk about to watch MOTD. Stay safe young lady and all the best with your new venture. UTV to you and your future. Best of the best of luck.' DL

Thanks for the good wishes, Dan and Percy. UTV!
Really, really enjoyed MOTD this week.
Well done to all the away support, you looked and sounded fantastic on the telly.

Just listening to TSM on the radio and he has been complimentary towards the club, the team and PL. He remembers Benteke being scouted for the summer, last year and thinks that Bent, when fit, has found it difficult to get into the team this season mainly because of Benteke, Weimann and Gabby playing together in the fluid and exciting way they do. 'It's clear that the team is playing to suit Benteke - Bent doesn't really add a lot in this system, even if he [started every game] with Benteke.'

When asked, he said that Bent should probably be on his way in the summer, but that Benteke would be a target, of course, so the priority for PL was to hang on to him. Some generous and entirely non-bitter comments from a gentleman, despite attempts by the interviewer to get him to comment about the Benitez situation as a way of getting into his own experiences with the VP crowd.

I still agree that it was best that he went, though, I know the club survived last season in the PL but it was at a cost. Justified, hopefully by PL's new-look team keeping the club up this season and developing onwards and upwards the next.


Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mr underhill on April 07, 2013, 02:45:00 PM
thank goodness we actually had luck on our side yesterday. brilliant win at a ground we don't usually perform particularly well at, but replaying the penalty shouts Stoke had from the MOTD footage, on most match days this season, they would have gone against us. Totally deserved victory which hopefully sees us on the way to safety.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 07, 2013, 02:56:26 PM
The Baker one was a good shout and we were lucky it wasn't given, but the Vlaar one wasn't and we would have been unlucky if it was given.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on April 07, 2013, 02:58:41 PM
It does say a lot about the way we've played under Lambert. 2-1 up in a vital game in the 90th minute and 4 players go pissarsing up the other end of the pitch by themselves in search of a third.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 07, 2013, 03:15:37 PM
thank goodness we actually had luck on our side yesterday. brilliant win at a ground we don't usually perform particularly well at, but replaying the penalty shouts Stoke had from the MOTD footage, on most match days this season, they would have gone against us. Totally deserved victory which hopefully sees us on the way to safety.

As mentioned earlier, they completely skipped the 2 penalty shouts we had as well, which were about the same, If Gabby had gone down straight away he'd have got a penalty rather than a yellow, and Weimann's looked like he was clipped as well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 07, 2013, 03:19:48 PM
thank goodness we actually had luck on our side yesterday. brilliant win at a ground we don't usually perform particularly well at, but replaying the penalty shouts Stoke had from the MOTD footage, on most match days this season, they would have gone against us. Totally deserved victory which hopefully sees us on the way to safety.

As mentioned earlier, they completely skipped the 2 penalty shouts we had as well, which were about the same, If Gabby had gone down straight away he'd have got a penalty rather than a yellow, and Weimann's looked like he was clipped as well.

They did show the Gabby one as he was booked for it. But they didn't show Andi's. Although the one from Gabby was contact, he showed he didn't lose his balance so going down when and how he did was bad and deserved the yellow card.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on April 07, 2013, 03:24:34 PM
It does say a lot about the way we've played under Lambert. 2-1 up in a vital game in the 90th minute and 4 players go pissarsing up the other end of the pitch by themselves in search of a third.

As opposed to shitting ourselves trying to defend as we usually do and conceeding. We can't defend very well, but we can certainly go forward well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 07, 2013, 03:24:58 PM
Neither was deliberate handball in my opinion.
Just watched a rerun of football focus from yesterday and Dublin sitting next to savage was asked any regrets about his career - the reply " If I knew how much the fine would be I'd have head butted him a lot harder" - class!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ez on April 07, 2013, 03:28:08 PM
It does say a lot about the way we've played under Lambert. 2-1 up in a vital game in the 90th minute and 4 players go pissarsing up the other end of the pitch by themselves in search of a third.

Pissarsing. There's a word I haven't heard for ages :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 07, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
I'd completley forgot about Andi's penalty claim.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 04:07:16 PM
I will never tire of seeing that goal, it really was tremendous.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 07, 2013, 04:08:06 PM
I was out yesterday, and I checked the score just as they equalised and turned the TV off in disgust. When I checked my phone again I assumed we'd be losing, to see we were 3-1 up was just amazing. Brilliant result, need another couple of wins and a draw now. Really glad that Bennett seems to be settling in now, and starting to play well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on April 07, 2013, 04:52:39 PM
Neither was deliberate handball in my opinion.
Just watched a rerun of football focus from yesterday and Dublin sitting next to savage was asked any regrets about his career - the reply " If I knew how much the fine would be I'd have head butted him a lot harder" - class!

I loathe the way Savage is so hard when he talks about players being "smashed" by others and then weasels about what he means - have always said the only thing I was angry about was Dion didn't hit him hard enough to put him out of the match - did he get his saxaphone out?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 07, 2013, 04:54:30 PM
Neither was deliberate handball in my opinion.
Just watched a rerun of football focus from yesterday and Dublin sitting next to savage was asked any regrets about his career - the reply " If I knew how much the fine would be I'd have head butted him a lot harder" - class!



I loathe the way Savage is so hard when he talks about players being "smashed" by others and then weasels about what he means - have always said the only thing I was angry about was Dion didn't hit him hard enough to put him out of the match - did he get his saxaphone out?

No savage replied his biggest regret was not getting up and head butting him back.
Seems jovial between them though.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on April 07, 2013, 04:56:51 PM
That was a vile incident on a vile night, I don't get why it is celebrated so much. Dion lowered himself and AVFC down to their level with that incident.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on April 07, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
The match thread is a tremendous read.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on April 07, 2013, 06:29:34 PM
Marvellous win. marvellous goal..feeling marvellous!! C'mon the Villa!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on April 07, 2013, 06:37:45 PM
Everybody on the planet knows what a good signing Benteke was, but I think we have a hell of a player in Westwood too.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: black pearl of inchicore on April 07, 2013, 06:46:06 PM
Next weeks Fulham game is the last saturday home fixture for the current season.....so lets give it to 'em.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on April 07, 2013, 07:06:52 PM
What a great win!
I am so disappointed in the score though. Predicted it on here last night and someone replied 'get a bet on, it's 25-1'
Well I thought about it but didn't. When I actually bet it never works out.
Oh well

Yes mate that was me. Would of made your day even better. Not to worry the result was massive .......
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: rjp on April 07, 2013, 07:24:54 PM
My thought process as he shaped to hit it. In the space of a few milliseconds it was "wtf you doing" to "that's going to be close" to "yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssss" and then pandemonium broke out and all logical thought vanished.

Me too, I haven't celebrated a goal like that in a long time.  The away end went mental and it's moments like that when you remember why you spend all the time and money.  Finally feeling well enough to post after far too much ale and a night asleep on the landing :) A special mention to the bloke behind me who at a tense moment came out with my quote of the day 'fucking cat head'.  Maybe you had to be there but it's still making me smile :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 07, 2013, 07:37:47 PM
Good luck Louzie.
'Great stuff matey. Just going on to one of those sites that we cannot talk about to watch MOTD. Stay safe young lady and all the best with your new venture. UTV to you and your future. Best of the best of luck.' DL

Thanks for the good wishes, Dan and Percy. UTV!
Really, really enjoyed MOTD this week.
Well done to all the away support, you looked and sounded fantastic on the telly.

Just listening to TSM on the radio and he has been complimentary towards the club, the team and PL. He remembers Benteke being scouted for the summer, last year and thinks that Bent, when fit, has found it difficult to get into the team this season mainly because of Benteke, Weimann and Gabby playing together in the fluid and exciting way they do. 'It's clear that the team is playing to suit Benteke - Bent doesn't really add a lot in this system, even if he [started every game] with Benteke.'

When asked, he said that Bent should probably be on his way in the summer, but that Benteke would be a target, of course, so the priority for PL was to hang on to him. Some generous and entirely non-bitter comments from a gentleman, despite attempts by the interviewer to get him to comment about the Benitez situation as a way of getting into his own experiences with the VP crowd.

I still agree that it was best that he went, though, I know the club survived last season in the PL but it was at a cost. Justified, hopefully by PL's new-look team keeping the club up this season and developing onwards and upwards the next.

I'd quite like to listen to that. Was it on 5Live?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on April 07, 2013, 07:46:10 PM
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb.html

Table is looking much better now Sunderland lost.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 07, 2013, 07:50:59 PM
It does say a lot about the way we've played under Lambert. 2-1 up in a vital game in the 90th minute and 4 players go pissarsing up the other end of the pitch by themselves in search of a third.

Ha ha, brilliant
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on April 07, 2013, 07:58:29 PM
Watching MOTD last night, couldn't remember the last time we had four players going forward and no opposition players in sight other than the goalie, for the third goal.


I think it might have been Chelsea when we were 7 down   

I don't know why but I was laughing hysterically when I read John e's reply!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 07, 2013, 08:35:16 PM
Just listening to TSM on the radio and he has been complimentary towards the club, the team and PL. He remembers Benteke being scouted for the summer, last year and thinks that Bent, when fit, has found it difficult to get into the team this season mainly because of Benteke, Weimann and Gabby playing together in the fluid and exciting way they do. 'It's clear that the team is playing to suit Benteke - Bent doesn't really add a lot in this system, even if he [started every game] with Benteke.'

When asked, he said that Bent should probably be on his way in the summer, but that Benteke would be a target, of course, so the priority for PL was to hang on to him. Some generous and entirely non-bitter comments from a gentleman, despite attempts by the interviewer to get him to comment about the Benitez situation as a way of getting into his own experiences with the VP crowd.

I still agree that it was best that he went, though, I know the club survived last season in the PL but it was at a cost. Justified, hopefully by PL's new-look team keeping the club up this season and developing onwards and upwards the next.

I caught that bit whilst I was driving earlier. I thought the presenter's attempts to lead TSM towards saying what he wanted to hear, that we'd all had it in for him from day one, verged on shamelessness. Credit where it's due. I don't think anybody could ever question the man's character. Pity, then, about his style of football.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on April 07, 2013, 08:40:57 PM
Just listening to TSM on the radio and he has been complimentary towards the club, the team and PL. He remembers Benteke being scouted for the summer, last year and thinks that Bent, when fit, has found it difficult to get into the team this season mainly because of Benteke, Weimann and Gabby playing together in the fluid and exciting way they do. 'It's clear that the team is playing to suit Benteke - Bent doesn't really add a lot in this system, even if he [started every game] with Benteke.'

When asked, he said that Bent should probably be on his way in the summer, but that Benteke would be a target, of course, so the priority for PL was to hang on to him. Some generous and entirely non-bitter comments from a gentleman, despite attempts by the interviewer to get him to comment about the Benitez situation as a way of getting into his own experiences with the VP crowd.

I still agree that it was best that he went, though, I know the club survived last season in the PL but it was at a cost. Justified, hopefully by PL's new-look team keeping the club up this season and developing onwards and upwards the next.

I caught that bit whilst I was driving earlier. I thought the presenter's attempts to lead TSM towards saying what he wanted to hear, that we'd all had it in for him from day one, verged on shamelessness. Credit where it's due. I don't think anybody could ever question the man's character. Pity, then, about his style of football.

I would never go as far as to say McLeish was likeable, but he's kept his side of things to himself by and large. Mind you, I'd expect a pay-off like he must have got gives you pause when open goals are offered by journalists.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 07, 2013, 08:53:19 PM
@DarrenBent: buzzing with the win yesterday great result fans were amazing
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on April 07, 2013, 08:58:09 PM

 McLeish is always very complimentary about the Villa, and i salute him for his integrity and dignity.It was a mistake appointing him, but every time i see /hear him on the media i like him.Sorry if that's not the general consensus, but i like the man.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on April 07, 2013, 09:01:28 PM

(http://i1356.photobucket.com/albums/q736/Mortimers_Bear/Screenshot_2013-04-07-01-24-20-1_zps2a4a3376.png)

I'm glad Christian took it on himself. Any other time in that situation we would have passed to Sylla who is offside.

I'm also glad the two were that side as it meant Begovic leaned that way anticipating the pass and Benteke had the right side to score in.

Just imagine if he had missed and Stoke had gone up the other end and equalised. It's a thin line and all that...

Looking at a few times all I can think is Benteke saying to the keeper "Any last requests".

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Billy Walker on April 07, 2013, 09:05:38 PM
I thought the guy (McLeish) was a gentleman, no doubt about it. Good luck to him.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 07, 2013, 09:09:42 PM
I thought the guy (McLeish) was a gentleman, no doubt about it. Good luck to him.

Same here, always respectful about the villa.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 07, 2013, 09:18:46 PM

 McLeish is always very complimentary about the Villa, and i salute him for his integrity and dignity.It was a mistake appointing him, but every time i see /hear him on the media i like him.Sorry if that's not the general consensus, but i like the man.

Agreed. Just wish he'd been less cautious.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 07, 2013, 09:20:00 PM
@DarrenBent: buzzing with the win yesterday great result fans were amazing

Nice to see that. I wish we could accomodate him but the balance up-front is our best asset at the moment.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on April 07, 2013, 09:25:42 PM

 McLeish is always very complimentary about the Villa, and i salute him for his integrity and dignity.It was a mistake appointing him, but every time i see /hear him on the media i like him.Sorry if that's not the general consensus, but i like the man.

I agree. I like him more than MON as an ex manager. It was a mistake to appoint him but I wish him well in the future.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on April 07, 2013, 09:28:12 PM
Everybody on the planet knows what a good signing Benteke was, but I think we have a hell of a player in Westwood too.

I thought that was possibly Westwood's best game for us. He was excellent.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Monty on April 07, 2013, 09:44:54 PM

 McLeish is always very complimentary about the Villa, and i salute him for his integrity and dignity.It was a mistake appointing him, but every time i see /hear him on the media i like him.Sorry if that's not the general consensus, but i like the man.

I agree. I like him more than MON as an ex manager. It was a mistake to appoint him but I wish him well in the future.

I like him more than MON as a man, but the way he started to publicly blame the youngsters last season in order to cover his own arse was unprofessional and cowardly.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on April 07, 2013, 09:45:37 PM
McLeish's character and integrity have never been in question. He is a decent bloke, he has a great deal of bottle. He is just limited as a football coach, that's all.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on April 07, 2013, 09:46:30 PM
Just want to see Matty Lowtons goal once more on MOTD 2 before i go to bed with a massive smile on my face ..............
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on April 07, 2013, 10:23:44 PM
Brilliant result,was so worried that missing all them chances would of cost us but luckily that screamer from Lowton got us a deserved 3 points.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on April 07, 2013, 11:34:52 PM
Ha! Even the Stoke fans joined in.

Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on April 07, 2013, 11:57:36 PM
Alan Hansen reckons Remys goal was better than Lowtons cause he run 50 yards with the ball. What a prick. He can never say anything positive about Villa. Get Paul McGrath on that panel. The programme would be more balanced instead of having a one eyed Red Scotsman ......
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on April 08, 2013, 02:02:44 AM
Paul did try a spell of punditry at RTE in Ireland but I think he admitted afterwards it was a bit too rabbit in the headlights for him. Johnny Giles did his best to steer him out of trouble but ultimately I don't think it was for him.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 08, 2013, 06:56:40 AM
Alan Hansen reckons Remys goal was better than Lowtons cause he run 50 yards with the ball. What a prick. He can never say anything positive about Villa. Get Paul McGrath on that panel. The programme would be more balanced instead of having a one eyed Red Scotsman ......

He never ran 50 yards with the ball- the only time he touched the ball was when he hit the shot.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on April 08, 2013, 08:38:06 AM
Remy's was a great finish, but Lowton had more to do and it was better. As for running 50 yards with it? I assume Hansen didn't watch it then.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on April 08, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
I said this on the post match thread Bentekes goal was much better than Lowton's.

Brilliantly beat his defender ran through powerfully and was totally confident he could beat the goalkeeper although he had Bent to his left in a much easier position to stick it away. He then beat the goalkeeper on his wrong side and that was harder than it looks. A quite magnificent goal.

Lowtons was a fine and highly spectacular goal (rather like the goals Cafu scored for Brazil) he caught it just right.

Benteke for me.

You may of course beg to differ?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 08, 2013, 08:55:36 AM
I said this on the post match thread Bentekes goal was much better than Lowton's.

Brilliantly beat his defender ran through powerfully and was totally confident he could beat the goalkeeper although he had Bent to his left in a much easier position to stick it away. He then beat the goalkeeper on his wrong side and that was harder than it looks. A quite magnificent goal.

Lowtons was a fine and highly spectacular goal (rather like the goals Cafu scored for Brazil) he caught it just right.

Benteke for me.

You may of course beg to differ?

Me thinks you have been on the sherry this morning ron ;)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on April 08, 2013, 08:58:38 AM
I said this on the post match thread Bentekes goal was much better than Lowton's.

I would'nt say it was better than Lowton's but it was a great goal in it's own way. It was such a cool finish bearing in mind he knew he could be killing the game off.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Steve R on April 08, 2013, 09:28:17 AM
From the Guardian's '10 talking poiints from the weekend's action.

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2) Aston Villa would be a big loss to the Premier League

After Stoke City went down 3-1 at home to a progressive Aston Villa team, Charlie Adam said: "He has a good side there, Paul Lambert. They pass and showed intensity." To win at the Britannia Stadium is rare – despite the Potters' dire form it was only a third league defeat there this season – and Lambert's side prevailed by having the courage to stick with the philosophy espoused by him. Lambert is a young manager with a young team who are enjoyable to watch. If they beat the drop, they should emerge from the summer even better and an exciting prospect to light up the division more regularly next season.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on April 08, 2013, 09:41:59 AM
From the Guardian's '10 talking poiints from the weekend's action.

Quote
2) Aston Villa would be a big loss to the Premier League

After Stoke City went down 3-1 at home to a progressive Aston Villa team, Charlie Adam said: "He has a good side there, Paul Lambert. They pass and showed intensity." To win at the Britannia Stadium is rare – despite the Potters' dire form it was only a third league defeat there this season – and Lambert's side prevailed by having the courage to stick with the philosophy espoused by him. Lambert is a young manager with a young team who are enjoyable to watch. If they beat the drop, they should emerge from the summer even better and an exciting prospect to light up the division more regularly next season.

It's becoming a consensus in the media, and it's nice to hear.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 08, 2013, 09:45:30 AM
From the Guardian's '10 talking poiints from the weekend's action.

Quote
2) Aston Villa would be a big loss to the Premier League

After Stoke City went down 3-1 at home to a progressive Aston Villa team, Charlie Adam said: "He has a good side there, Paul Lambert. They pass and showed intensity." To win at the Britannia Stadium is rare – despite the Potters' dire form it was only a third league defeat there this season – and Lambert's side prevailed by having the courage to stick with the philosophy espoused by him. Lambert is a young manager with a young team who are enjoyable to watch. If they beat the drop, they should emerge from the summer even better and an exciting prospect to light up the division more regularly next season.

It's becoming a consensus in the media, and it's nice to hear.

I said something similar to a friend down the pub yesterday ;)
The corner has been turned .
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on April 08, 2013, 09:51:58 AM
I said this on the post match thread Bentekes goal was much better than Lowton's.

Brilliantly beat his defender ran through powerfully and was totally confident he could beat the goalkeeper although he had Bent to his left in a much easier position to stick it away. He then beat the goalkeeper on his wrong side and that was harder than it looks. A quite magnificent goal.

Lowtons was a fine and highly spectacular goal (rather like the goals Cafu scored for Brazil) he caught it just right.

Benteke for me.

You may of course beg to differ?

Having been away for the weekend and only caught the goals on MOTD2 I am inclined to agree. Whilst Lowton's was stunning there was something of the sublime with Benteke's goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 08, 2013, 09:56:54 AM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 08, 2013, 10:00:49 AM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.

Still lowtons for me just shading weimanns at anfield.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 08, 2013, 10:06:45 AM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.

Still lowtons for me just shading weimanns at anfield.

Ooh forgot about Weimanns, Benteke's second was good as well.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on April 08, 2013, 10:12:59 AM
We have scored some belters

Lowton v Swansea
Weimann v Man U (1st)
Weimann v Liverpool
Benteke v Everton
Gabby v Reading (for the build-up)
N'Zogbia v West Ham
Benteke v Albion
Benteke v QPR
Lowton v Stoke
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on April 08, 2013, 10:17:29 AM
We have scored some belters

Lowton v Swansea
Weimann v Man U (1st)
Weimann v Liverpool
Benteke v Everton
Gabby v Reading (for the build-up)
N'Zogbia v West Ham
Benteke v Albion
Benteke v QPR
Lowton v Stoke


The fourth at Norwich by Benteke had about 20 passes as well, it was of those where the 'ole's' didn't back fire
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: mattjpa on April 08, 2013, 10:26:47 AM
too many on here over thinkiing the goal of the season. whilst the team goals are all well and good, goal of the season needs to be a worldly, the sort of goal that you would struggle to replicate in a thousand attempts. When i think of goal of the season i think of le tissier, cantona, yeboah, crouch, etc.....Lowtons is good enough to be spoken about in the same breath. As good as the others being mentioned are, can you say any are of the others are up there?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on April 08, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
Eamon - I was listening to TalkSport! Time of interview, er when I posted.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on April 08, 2013, 10:51:34 AM
too many on here over thinkiing the goal of the season. whilst the team goals are all well and good, goal of the season needs to be a worldly, the sort of goal that you would struggle to replicate in a thousand attempts. When i think of goal of the season i think of le tissier, cantona, yeboah, crouch, etc.....Lowtons is good enough to be spoken about in the same breath. As good as the others being mentioned are, can you say any are of the others are up there?

If you're simply talking about the MOTD GOS competition, then it's Lowton's against Stoke.

However, if you're looking for optimism for our future with this team an manager, then some of the passing move/team goals this season have been excellent and show what we're building towards. 
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Proposition Joe on April 08, 2013, 11:06:48 AM
Great picture

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2304919-19220569000005DC-258_634x456.jpg)

Is it me or does Westwood look like John Gregory there?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Fergal on April 08, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
Great picture

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2304919-19220569000005DC-258_634x456.jpg)

Is it me or does Westwood look like John Gregory there?
It's you :)
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on April 08, 2013, 11:14:46 AM
Great picture

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/06/article-2304919-19220569000005DC-258_634x456.jpg)

Is it me or does Westwood look like John Gregory there?

I don't know what you look like but Westwood doesn't look like Gregory there.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 08, 2013, 11:22:25 AM
Excellent Chris, made me giggle
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on April 08, 2013, 11:25:55 AM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.

Still lowtons for me just shading weimanns at anfield.

Such a subjective thing this isn't it. My all time favourite premier league goal was Van Persie's away at Charlton because it was a great counter attacking move finished with a super volley mid air on the run. So it had a bit of everything for me, except the Villa of course. Others probably think that goal was just ok, if they even remember it. It probably wasn't even that year's goal of the season
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 08, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.



Still lowtons for me just shading weimanns at anfield.

Such a subjective thing this isn't it. My all time favourite premier league goal was Van Persie's away at Charlton because it was a great counter attacking move finished with a super volley mid air on the run. So it had a bit of everything for me, except the Villa of course. Others probably think that goal was just ok, if they even remember it. It probably wasn't even that year's goal of the season

Van persies at charlton? What year? I don't recall it.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on April 08, 2013, 11:31:49 AM
We have scored some belters

Lowton v Swansea
Weimann v Man U (1st)
Weimann v Liverpool
Benteke v Everton
Gabby v Reading (for the build-up)
N'Zogbia v West Ham
Benteke v Albion
Benteke v QPR
Lowton v Stoke


The fourth at Norwich by Benteke had about 20 passes as well, it was of those where the 'ole's' didn't back fire

First one at norwich wasn't too shabby, either
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on April 08, 2013, 12:27:39 PM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.

Still lowtons for me just shading weimanns at anfield.

Such a subjective thing this isn't it. My all time favourite premier league goal was Van Persie's away at Charlton because it was a great counter attacking move finished with a super volley mid air on the run. So it had a bit of everything for me, except the Villa of course. Others probably think that goal was just ok, if they even remember it. It probably wasn't even that year's goal of the season

I agree it's totally subjective, for me Bergkamp vs Newcastle is the best goal ever scored in the premier league, it was a moment of pure inspiration from one of the best players of his generation, I can't think of another player who would've even attempted to flick the ball past his man like that, let alone pull it off.  I generally prefer the goals that are all about technique than the 30 yard screamers, so I normally prefer the 'team goals' (my favourite of all time is 'that' goal from brazil in 1970) but Lowton deserves every bit of praise he's getting because it's a technically perfect goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on April 08, 2013, 12:30:30 PM
I understand the discussion about Lowton's goal v Benteke's but as a Goal of the Season, Benteke's against albion was better than both.

Still lowtons for me just shading weimanns at anfield.

Such a subjective thing this isn't it. My all time favourite premier league goal was Van Persie's away at Charlton because it was a great counter attacking move finished with a super volley mid air on the run. So it had a bit of everything for me, except the Villa of course. Others probably think that goal was just ok, if they even remember it. It probably wasn't even that year's goal of the season

I agree it's totally subjective, for me Bergkamp vs Newcastle is the best goal ever scored in the premier league, it was a moment of pure inspiration from one of the best players of his generation, I can't think of another player who would've even attempted to flick the ball past his man like that, let alone pull it off.  I generally prefer the goals that are all about technique than the 30 yard screamers, so I normally prefer the 'team goals' (my favourite of all time is 'that' goal from brazil in 1970) but Lowton deserves every bit of praise he's getting because it's a technically perfect goal.

Bergkamp v leicester was a great goal.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on April 08, 2013, 12:50:58 PM

I agree it's totally subjective, for me Bergkamp vs Newcastle is the best goal ever scored in the premier league, it was a moment of pure inspiration from one of the best players of his generation, I can't think of another player who would've even attempted to flick the ball past his man like that, let alone pull it off.  I generally prefer the goals that are all about technique than the 30 yard screamers, so I normally prefer the 'team goals' (my favourite of all time is 'that' goal from brazil in 1970) but Lowton deserves every bit of praise he's getting because it's a technically perfect goal.

What about Luc Nilis' "flick" goal ?



NB - the video also contains Luc's injury but it was the best footage of the goal I could find
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: flybo on April 08, 2013, 12:55:31 PM

I agree it's totally subjective, for me Bergkamp vs Newcastle is the best goal ever scored in the premier league, it was a moment of pure inspiration from one of the best players of his generation, I can't think of another player who would've even attempted to flick the ball past his man like that, let alone pull it off.  I generally prefer the goals that are all about technique than the 30 yard screamers, so I normally prefer the 'team goals' (my favourite of all time is 'that' goal from brazil in 1970) but Lowton deserves every bit of praise he's getting because it's a technically perfect goal.

What about Luc Nilis' "flick" goal ?



NB - the video also contains Luc's injury but it wa sthe best fottage of the goal I could find
Never got to see luc play think he would have been a massive star at villa
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Malandro on April 08, 2013, 02:24:13 PM
Not sure if its been asked, but who was it that said Bowery was playing before the match and how did you know?!
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on April 08, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
In Daves contribution to today's Express and Star he describes Benteke's goal and I quote his words 'netted with a tap in'.

Its funny how people see things in different ways isnt it?
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on April 08, 2013, 08:28:01 PM
I cannot stop watching Lowton's volley, goal of the season without a doubt.
Title: Re: Stoke City vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on April 08, 2013, 10:19:14 PM

I agree it's totally subjective, for me Bergkamp vs Newcastle is the best goal ever scored in the premier league, it was a moment of pure inspiration from one of the best players of his generation, I can't think of another player who would've even attempted to flick the ball past his man like that, let alone pull it off.

Must be something about Newcastle and flicking balls past defenders but this one always sticks in my mind form Matt Le GrandHooter. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzMpdLlbZm0)

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