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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Deano's Mullet on January 17, 2015, 04:52:23 PM
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Fuck off football, Lambert and Lerner. Only headed one way and that's down. 67 mins before any semblance of a team, ten minute spell and then its game over. My plaudits to those that go week in week out, they get sod all for their money.
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Lost again
Welcome Gil
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5 games without a goal, just fuck off Lambert. I am so bored of saying this. Gil looked good, but he should have started.
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I thought we were excellent.
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Act now Randolph before it is too late.
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Just go. Pleeeeeeease.
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I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.
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Lambert, you keep 'going' again.
But you're still fucking here.
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450 and counting. This is fucking murder. Like death by a thousand cuts.
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What is there left to say that hasn't been said a million times
I hate you Lambert, you thick incoherent twat
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Watford have scored five today. In one match. We've scored that many in the last ten. Jealous.
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I will repeat what I said in the match thread.
The problem with this defeat is that we will have the worst of all worlds as a result.
We lose another game.
We play sufficiently averagely to present absolutely no threat to the manager being sacked.
He will say we were excellent, the press won't challenge it and on we go again.
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Thanks Mr Lambert.
We played well for 15 minutes and shock horror movement made us look much better going forward after Gil came on.
Hutton can't cross, we need to work someone into the side down the right that can.
Delph is a silly boy for their second but looked a very good player at times.
We lack energy without him.
Gabby should not even be in the squad anymore. He was dog awful yet again today. Please sign a couple more forwards and give us a chance Lambert.
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Sack the prat, that is all.
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Act now Randolph before it is too late.
The comatose idiot probably can't even tie his own shoelaces
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1 goal in 7! Nearly nine hours without scoring. Surely he'll break the 6 game drought record in a fortnight, adding another to his collection.
Derby record and championship here we come
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Anyone said, "We wuz robbed" yet?
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Get rid of this moron now. And Lambert.
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We need a better manager asap
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Going down, there are not three worse teams this year to rescue us
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Enough is enough, someone please grow a pair and act now.
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Predictable and expected.
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Did he come out the dugout today?
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we actually had 7 shots on target apparently. Just saying like...
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How many individual footballers have scored more than our whole team?
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sleepwalking to relegation, can only rely on qpr, burnley and leicester to save us :'(
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Going down, there are not three worse teams this year to rescue us
QPR at least win some home games. Sunderland look endangered but look how they got out of it last season. Burnley, Palace, Leicester, they all show fight. Where is ours?
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We had a few chances but fluffed them all. I don't think the players give a fuck for Lambert. We're going to be relegated unless this man is removed, surely Fox can see that.
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Look you morons look on the bright side. We won't be last on motd tonight.
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a decent 20 minute spell. But we didn't create too many real chances. A few half chances players were snatching at.
Can't see where our next point is coming from, we're in a relegation battle.
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Dead inside.
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With this goal scoring record, we are fast becoming a laughing stock.
We are humiliatingly bad. Playing OK for ten minutes against a truly mediocre Liverpool side is nothing like good enough.
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Every time Cleverley got involved, the move broke down. He does absolutely nothing to justify a place in the side.
Gil looks quality, the whole team lifted with his presence. Lovely touches, can beat players as though they're not there, wants the ball, shows movement, has a good eye for slipping the ball in behind the defence. He should be a real asset for us.
Lambert needs to be braver and not be worried about losing games before a ball's been kicked. We've lost again but I'm more upbeat having seen Gil. He and Benteke can hopefully form a partnership that will save our bacon over the remaining games.
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Cowardly team selection again.
Too slow to change things again.
Gabby is appalling, I hope he signed a reduced wage contract because he's shit. We NEED another forward this window.
The slow motion brothers of Cleveley and Westwood need some time out of the side. One at home is pushing it, two is suicide.
We need more pace in the team.
Hutton as good as he has been is not a world class attacking full back, everything can't revolve around him, he's a nice option to have but as a defender will fuck things up more often than not going forward.
Baker is a massive 50p head, Clarke is a better player than him and a bigger threat in the box because he actually gets headers on target.
Lambert will escape again and we get to hear his piss poor after match thoughts for at least another few weeks but in all honesty what did he do right today to help us win a game that was winnable. Liverpool are crap.
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Baker is crap in either penalty box.
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Going down, there are not three worse teams this year to rescue us
QPR at least win some home games. Sunderland look endangered but look how they got out of it last season. Burnley, Palace, Leicester, they all show fight. Where is ours?
Yup exactly, i just can't see 3 teams with less quality, fight, passion or tactical variety
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Apart from Cleverley and Gabby we have a half decent team that any other Manager could probably make something out of. Lambert seems shit scarred to go positive from the off.
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Apart from Cleverley and Gabby we have a half decent team that any other Manager could probably make something out of. Lambert seems shit scarred to go positive from the off.
this. its not a bad squad.
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Where did Gil play?
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It really is ridiculous this has been allowed to continue so long.
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Apart from Cleverley and Gabby we have a half decent team that any other Manager could probably make something out of. Lambert seems shit scarred to go positive from the off.
Liverpool we're another team there for the taking today. An earlyish goal, the crowd rocking a new player. Could have been a great day. But yeah Lambore in charge so he sends out 4 centre mids.
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Played a bit better and looked a little more direct. Still lacking in guile and the turgid movement up front was mirrored in defense at times. It was quite easy for the plops forwards to find pockets of space (Thankfully, they were pretty average) :-[
Gil made a decent debut. A poor man's Eden Hazard? :o
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With this goal scoring record, we are fast becoming a laughing stock.
We are humiliatingly bad. Playing OK for ten minutes against a truly mediocre Liverpool side is nothing like good enough.
Nope it's fucking embarrassing.
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WHAT RISK DO YOU RUN REPLACING THIS MANAGER?!
I just don't get it. I don't get it.
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What a surprise, no goals AGAIN. I feel so sorry for the fans still paying hard earned money to watch this shit. Lerner needs to take a long hard look in the mirror because he is making us a laughing stock and those fans deserve better.
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Where did Gil play?
Right wing it looked like to me.
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He'll try and be positive in the games against Arsenal and Chelsea and it'll backfire. He's just clueless.
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Lambert has taken a squad capable of a top 8 finish and turned them into relegation certainties. I actually really like our squad; Sanchez is a monster and Gil looks promising.
That was absolutely shit again.
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One goal at the Holte in the League going into February. Has this ever happened before? Whats the fewest scored at the Holte cos we're gonna beat it this season.
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let's face it. This result was not a shock, The performance was at it's usual level, Sanchez and Gil look to be head and shoulders above the rest. Benetke has no confidence at all. Gabby is just being the player he always was. very quick but the touch of a hippo.
Bournemouth will for sure beat us as will Chelsea and Arsenal. Sadly I can see Chelsea running riot if Lambert doesn't sort something out. I never want to see the Villa lose,no matter what the competition but I am sure Lambert will put no effort into the FA Cup. especially after his comments last year!
Lambert is really out of his depth now, But I cannot see Lerner sacking him!
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Lambert needs to be braver and not be worried about losing games before a ball's been kicked.
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I think this is the key. 3 points for a win every 3rd game would save us.
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One goal at the Holte in the League going into February. Has this ever happened before? Whats the fewest scored at the Holte cos we're gonna beat it this season.
They'll probably still wonder why ticket sales are declining or say that it's the economy.
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We are now the most symmetrical team in the division. Averaging exactly 1 goal in every 2 games.
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desperate
After our 15 min spell without scoring you knew they would get a second
why do we not attack the box from either side instead of just lumping it in or shooting from distance, clueless tactics are the reason.
This guy is not going to be sacked, we need to pray that 3 teams end up worse and that someone with a passion and deep pockets buys us.
The cynic in me does not see that happening in a hurry, Desperate times.
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"I thought we were excellent in the second half. All we needed was a goal."
Twit.
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Anyone said, "We wuz robbed" yet?
Most of the people who paid to watch it
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FFS he just said it on 5 Live
" I thought we were excellent! "
What a complete toss pot
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Agonising, soul destroying stuff.
This isn't a bad squad and is performing desperately below the sum of its parts.
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"We've tried everything to score."
Twit.
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Where did Gil play?
Right wing it looked like to me.
Ta.
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he said it twice
"I thought we were excellent"
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Delph was completely garbage, if you want to leave Fabian then please fuck off soon. Same for Benteke.
Gabby, Cleverley and Weimann never should wear the shirt again, Westwood and Cissokho were average at best. The defence looked dodgy as hell to me and Sanchez had a very poor game compared to the last two.
Overall............it's looking very bleak for us.
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Well if you've 'tried everything to score' by definition that's all ideas exhausted. Time to go.
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a decent 20 minute spell. But we didn't create too many real chances. A few half chances players were snatching at.
Can't see where our next point is coming from, we're in a relegation battle.
The decent 20 minute spell is a reversion to the mean. Until the last set of games, we have usually managed a promising 20 minutes usually to no avail on account of a match lasting 90+minutes.
Hutton, Sanchez and Delph (apart from that costly mistake at the end) looked decent. Gil looked promising.
Benteke received two really good crosses early on, one from Hutton and Gabby, and he did not acknowledge either. So what, you might say, but I think this is not a good sign.
Probably the most worrying aspect is that central defence, which has been our major strength, was targeted and looked dodgy. I suppose you could argue that we started the season with Vlaar and Senderos so it is not that surprising.
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In my life time this is the worst point of supporting Villa. Or at least the most frustrating
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Lambert on five live "I thought we were excellent in the second half. All we needed was a goal." Reminds me of the Jasper Carrot impression of the Tony Butler phone in all those years ago. 'Hello Tone, Andy Gray had this shot today and if it had gone in it would have been a goal.'
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I hope we end this shit run of scoring by smacking 5 in like we did under BFR. The goals for column is just depressing. Can't comment too much otherwise as my only info on the game came from Sox Sports News. He said we weren't too bad overall.
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Gary neville said that Ferguson would tell the Yanited team to go all out for the 20 minutes to get a goal and if it didnt happen they would make it to half-time and reassess.
I know we don't have the same quality but it would be nice at home to make the opposition have to concentrate on defending rather than nicely encourage them into settling down into there own rhythm.
Away teams must be busting at the seams to get to villa park to break any goal scoring ducks they may have.
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We play piss poor we loose and don't score
We play average we loose and don't score
We play ok in bits we loose and don't score
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@CarlesGil22
My apologies for today's result. It was good debut and I thank the fans for the support. #AVFC
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We play piss poor we loose and don't score
We play average we loose and don't score
We play ok in bits we loose and don't score
We need to tighten things up.
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You don't need to apologise Carles not your fault.
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Eight hours and forty-two minutes without a goal. Hungarian director Bela Tarr's excruciating and unremittingly grim film 'Satantango' is only seven hours and twenty minutes long. In the film there's a 10-minute-long shot of a field of cows, in the rain. There's a cat torture scene. There are demoralised peasants drinking themselves to death in it. It's in black and white. And yet - and yet - it's still infinitely more cheery, palatable and life-affirming than Aston Villa under Paul Lambert and Randy Lerner.
I'm off to drink a jerry can of red diesel and hang myself in a Hungarian cattle shed.
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Gary neville said that Ferguson would tell the Yanited team to go all out for the 20 minutes to get a goal and if it didnt happen they would make to half-time and reassess.
I know we don't have the same quality but it would be nice at home to make the opposition have to concentrate on defending rather than nicely encourage them into settling down into there own rhythm.
Away teams must be busting at the seams to get to villa park to break any goal scoring ducks they may have.
It's a good point that we start no games with any momentum. A few shots or a crunching tackle or some harrying from the strikers pushing them back anything to rouse the crowd really but we don't we start very slow passing sideways and letting the opposition have the ball where they like. By 25 minutes everyone in the crowd is bored shitless and a veil of silence sits over the ground. There's absolutely no entertainment watching this villa team.
If Lerner can't sell up at least sack this bag of shit managing us in to submission.
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Huff and puff but usual lack of quality against a top team.
Liverpool aren't even that great but just clincial finishing after soaking up a bit of pressure.
Lambert will get it big time if Bournmouth knock us out next week.
Delph was abysmal, looked like he'd already done a deal with Liverpool.
Gil was the bright spark, promising debut. About time we had a tricky clever player who can pick up and run from deep, playing one twos. Bit of the Robbie Keane about him. Worth a start at Arsenal.
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He sets up the team and reacts post-match like some third division side hopelessly out-gunned in a cup game.
Please go away.
Now.
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11 goals in 1,980 hours of football this season - the equivalent of 82.5 days for 11 goals.
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He sets up the team and reacts post-match like some third division side hopelessly out-gunned in a cup game.
Please go away.
Now.
This is exactly it.
He complains that fans have too high an expectation when in reality he has none.
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2 wins in 18 and it's likely to rise to 20. :'(
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Someone earlier in the thread said they can't see where the next point is coming from, never mind point how about goal!
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No protest, no goals, no points, no chance.
We may get to the trapdoor slowly but mark my words we will get there.
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We play piss poor we loose and don't score
We play average we loose and don't score
We play ok in bits we loose and don't score
Lose.
Lose.
Lose.
The rest is correct.
Out of interest, how do get on with the word 'loose'? Do you double the correct number of 'o's or just add the extra one?
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Someone needs to come in, be it a loan or transfer to replace Agbonlahor. He offers absolutely nothing as a threat in front of goal or a creative spark. I just watch Tekkers getting frustrated playing along side the waster. Sums the club up giving him a contract, needs a rocket up his arse not another pay day.
Cleverley is hopeless, always has been when playing in one of the top sides in the country, always will be. Everton must be bonkers is they want him.
Aly just seems to stand of his man and back off into the box.
Hutton for all the effort going forward needs to seriously stop floating the ball into the keepers arms.
Okore really needs to wake up and mark his man.
Sanchez played well for me and his mate Gil looks potentially the kind of player we have been crying out for. Not pinning all my hopes on him but he's different. Put out all the stops in getting Januzaj / Salah ( although unlikely ) and I think we'll just scrape through this season...just!
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Benteke was fucking atrocious again.
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11 goals in 1,980 hours of football this season - the equivalent of 82.5 days for 11 goals.
I think you mean 1,980 minutes. Otherwise no wonder we're shit if each game we play is lasting 90 hours, we must be knackered!
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In his interview with Pat Murphy, who sounded like he felt sorry for the twit, Lambert had the cheek to mumble something about how much Liverpool's team was worth. The excuses will continue to come, make no bones about it.
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You don't need to apologise Carles not your fault.
It's unusual to get any apology.
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'We had relentless pressure in the second half.' Paul Lambert
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11 goals in 1,980 hours of football this season - the equivalent of 82.5 days for 11 goals.
I think you mean 1,980 minutes. Otherwise no wonder we're shit if each game we play is lasting 90 hours, we must be knackered!
That's the one!
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Another nil? Nothing more to add then .
A man with even a modicum of professional pride would be having a conversation by now about how to manage his exit by "mutual consent". However, this is Lambert - or more to the point - this is Lambert with the most ineffectual owner in the Premier League.
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just got back home frozen were down it was usual lack of everything get ready Learner to throw another 100 million away when we drop
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Lambert says we were excellent
No Paul if you lose 2 fucking nil at home you are in now way shape or form excellent
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Lambert says we were excellent
Seriously?
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Bold, positive prediction - Carles Gil will be the reason we are not relegated.
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In his interview with Pat Murphy, who sounded like he felt sorry for the twit, Lambert had the cheek to mumble something about how much Liverpool's team was worth. The excuses will continue to come, make no bones about it.
When Pat Murphy turns to pity/sympathy you know we are in trouble.
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Watched the game whilst at my Nephew's birthday party on Danish TV.
They'd got a clock counting up in the corner of the screen during the second half 28 days, 1hr, xx minutes, xx seconds.
My brother in law asked what that was all about.
I didn't have to think about. How long it's been since we last scored a league goal.
Even Danish TV are taking the piss now.
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Benteke was fucking atrocious again.
He was, as was Gabby. I thought the way they both managed to mark each other out of the game (again) is a great example of how shit Lambert is. Any manager, from Premier League to Sunday part teams would instantly see how they both move into the exact same space, often challenging each other for the same ball and more often than not, managing to put the other off shooting/ heading.
It's examples like this that make me convinced if we are brave enough to replace Lambert, we'll see immediately what a very decent side he has assembled. Tactically, the man is clueless, even worse than MON and McLeish. He has to go.
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One goal at the Holte in the League going into February. Has this ever happened before? Whats the fewest scored at the Holte cos we're gonna beat it this season.
They'll probably still wonder why ticket sales are declining or say that it's the economy.
39k today though. We are a loyal bunch
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If our silent and never seen clueless owner cared or had any feeling for our once proud club at all,he would sack the clueless idiot we call a manager tonight and give us some hope
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Eight hours and forty-two minutes without a goal. Hungarian director Bela Tarr's excruciating and unremittingly grim film 'Satantango' is only seven hours and twenty minutes long. In the film there's a 10-minute-long shot of a field of cows, in the rain. There's a cat torture scene. There are demoralised peasants drinking themselves to death in it. It's in black and white. And yet - and yet - it's still infinitely more cheery, palatable and life-affirming than Aston Villa under Paul Lambert and Randy Lerner.
I'm off to drink a jerry can of red diesel and hang myself in a Hungarian cattle shed.
Spoiler alert
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You don't need to apologise Carles not your fault.
It's unusual to get any apology.
He obviously doesn't realise we play like that every week so now he will have to apologise every week.
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Is anyone even angry when we lose again anymore? I'm just tired of it all. We signed a new player and I couldn't be bothered listening to what Lambert had to say about it because everything he says I've become conditioned to believe the opposite he's talked that much tosh.
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We are a national laughing stock
We are an irrevillance
We are attracting pity
We are going this season unless something is done
We are Aston Villa.....enough now
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One goal at the Holte in the League going into February. Has this ever happened before? Whats the fewest scored at the Holte cos we're gonna beat it this season.
They'll probably still wonder why ticket sales are declining or say that it's the economy.
39k today though. We are a loyal bunch
Plastic Scousers from Gloucester keeping the attendance high.
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Gil looked good. Why not start him from the beginning of the game? Instead we play 4 none creative midfield players, who with the exception of Delph cant beat a man and have no pace. Its so f in obvious its unbelievable. Why cant our clown of a manager see this? First half was truly awful
In fairness Sanchez had a good game Apart from a couple of stray passes.
Gabby was awful as was Cleverly. Hutton did ok. Benteke is half way out VP.
Its going to be a long season and thats another £40 I have wasted
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Really, I have just nearly crashed my car because I have just been screaming at the interview I heard with that c unt lambert on WM.
His opening statement was, as predidicted, we were excellent!!
WE WERE NOT FUCKING EXCELLENT YOU MUMBLING FUCKING WANKER
We have lost again, we have not scored again and we WILL go down if we stick with you, you bastard.
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Lambert has no credibility. His words mean nothing.
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Lambert is a cock end
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Gil played centrally in a 4231 and at home and against weaker sides I think sanchez and Delph with him further fwd may be the way to go. Though I do like westwood
Feel a bit sorry for cleverley. He's not a winger
We could do with two more attacking creative players to play either side of BeNteke
I'd sack Lambert but you have to say that if he'd have been given the money any of his three predecessors got and he's likely have bought some more quality to add to benteke, sanchez, westwood, Okore, kozak, and by the looks of it gil.
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"Excellent" ???
Oh fuck off Lambert, just fuck off.
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No wins,No points,No goals,No hope. I have never felt so low being a villa fan since my old man started taking me in 1963 and that includes dropping into the third division
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8 hours 42 mins without a goal .
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Where did Gil play?
Right wing it looked like to me.
It looked to me that he played centrally but drifted right more than left. I really thought he was excellent
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There must be a playing clause in Cleverley's loan deal because I don't understand why he is playing every game.
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If our silent and never seen clueless owner cared or had any feeling for our once proud club at all,he would sack the clueless idiot we call a manager tonight and give us some hope
That's assuming he knows what's happening.
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Gil played centrally in a 4231 and at home and against weaker sides I think sanchez and Delph with him further fwd may be the way to go. Though I do like westwood
Feel a bit sorry for cleverley. He's not a winger
We could do with two more attacking creative players to play either side of BeNteke
I'd sack Lambert but you have to say that if he'd have been given the money any of his three predecessors got and he's likely have bought some more quality to add to benteke, sanchez, westwood, Okore, kozak, and by the looks of it gil.
And then managed them in to a collective pile of disorganised shit playing on each others toes in a tiny portion of the pitch.
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Get this fucking idiot OUT now. Fuck mocking from the media about the 8 minutes non-event and concentrate on Bournemouth. A banner, a boo, a song or 3 before kick-off and then get behind the team fully from the first whistle. At half-time hopefully applaud them off and get onto Lambert again. Carry on for 15 minutes until the 2nd half begins. then give him both barrels at fiull time once more.
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Listening to WM Paul Franks replied to comment by a caller called Ash "maybe Cleverley isnt being played in the right position".
The reply was "Cleverley hasn't got a position because he's not a very good footballer"
Well said cant argue with that comment.
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MANAGER REACTION
Aston Villa 0-2 Liverpool
Aston Villa manager Paul Lambert: "The second half I thought we were excellent. I didn't think there was too much in it in the first half.
"We lost a poor goal but the second half was relentless pressure from us and their goalkeeper has probably kept them in it with the save from Christian Benteke.
"I don't think anyone could fault us for the way we played in the second half. We just have to keep doing what we did today and keep getting the chances and they will go in. The fans were brilliant right from the off. At the end that is just disappointment."
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Utter rubbish.
We looked as clueless as ever for an hour against the poorest Liverpool side I have seen in 20 odd years. Why does he persist with picking midfielders who all do the same job? Why is Cleverley picked? Awful player. Where does Agbonlahor play? What does he create? He carries no threat and is another awful player.
We had a good twenty minutes when we brought Gil on who looked good. He plays at a tempo and moves the ball quickly and is capable of beating a man. We doubled our creative outlet from Hutton with Gil.
Lambert has talked about Mignolet making great saves, I can recall one you'd expect him to make from Benteke, but that was it. Benteke is looking terrible at the moment, lazy and disinterested. Too busy to go and whinge than shake a leg and put an ounce of effort in.
The game was dead after the second, with the players giving up.
Twenty minutes today and ten again Swansea is all our manager has managed to cobble together in five games where we actually looked like scoring. Appalling. He should be sacked, he should have been sacked a long time ago, but we will continue to drift aimlessly towards relegation, which at the moment, looks inevitable.
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Thanks Ads. Sums it up for me as well.
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The thing that worries me more than anything,is i think the clueless idiot actually believes we were excellent and that if we keep playing the same way the goals will come
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Thing is, we all moan like hell, including me, but there wasn't much protesting today. i left in added on time and there was some quiet chants of Lamber out, but other than that, nothing.
Maybe the apathy has overcome us all, but judging by comments on here, we all care, alot
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He has to change things around for the next couple of games. We're all expecting to lose them both, so there's absolutely no point in not doing. Gil has to come in for Cleverly first and foremost and I'd be sorely tempted to drop both full-backs for Richardson and Bacuna. If nothing else it'd give us players on either side of the pitch who can deliver a ball from either open-play or a set-piece. Cissokho is absolutely woeful in possession of the football, and no amount of 'solidity' makes up for it.
If he doesn't do that he has to play a 4-4-2 and play 2 players directly ahead of Hutton and Cissokho because we have to find a way of hurting teams. That was a Liverpool side missing their 2 best players (Sturridge and Gerrard) and they have quite literally eased to a 2-0 win over us. We weren't excellent Paul, we were very, very poor.
Finally, and I don't want to single Okore out, but that's why we can't let Vlaar go in this window. He lost Borini far too easy for the opener and generally looked off the pace. He will become a good player, but in the position we're in we can't afford for our centre-back to be in the middle of a steep learning curve for too long.
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Thing is, we all moan like hell, including me, but there wasn't much protesting today. i left in added on time and there was some quiet chants of Lamber out, but other than that, nothing.
Maybe the apathy has overcome us all, but judging by comments on here, we all care, alot
There are still too many people who think that by speaking out against lambert, that you are not supporting the club.
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And another thought - why the fuck have we not got an Assistant Manager? Does Lambert think we don't really need one? If he does, he's an idiot, and if he doesn't, then how extensively are we searching for one? Tony Pulis seemed to be able to put an experienced team of coaches / assistants in place very quickly at The Baggies, why are we taking so long to find a replacement for Roy Keane? There must literally be loads of options.
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I will repeat what I said in the match thread.
The problem with this defeat is that we will have the worst of all worlds as a result.
We lose another game.
We play sufficiently averagely to present absolutely no threat to the manager being sacked.
He will say we were excellent, the press won't challenge it and on we go again.
What difference does our performance level make? You seriously don't think that Lerner gives a shit about that. Lerner thinks Lambert can keep us up like last season and the season before. We could have had zero shots on goal today and Lerner would not care a jot that is the clear message that is coming across or else he'd have been sacked yonks ago.
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Haven't read the thread (just got in) but I can guess what the usual suspects are saying. The thing is we have several good players who would benefit from a change of management and coaching. Unfortunately the two employees that should be leaving the club that is Lambert and Agbonlahor are guaranteed a job for as long as they like. We have players in form mainly Sanchez and Hutton and Guzan and players like Delph and Benteke who have the skill level to do well in this hard league. This manager appears to have bought a skillful player in Gil and Okore looks like he will be a big success in time.
I would make Lambert chief scout and get a progressive manager in as soon as possible. Offer the job to Frank Lampard. Tell him he can play as well.
Its not all bad news,but time is starting to run out for the needed changes.
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He played four central midfielders today. Count 'em, FOUR.
That alone should be enough to warrant his instant dismissal.
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In his interview with Pat Murphy, who sounded like he felt sorry for the twit, Lambert had the cheek to mumble something about how much Liverpool's team was worth. The excuses will continue to come, make no bones about it.
That annoyed me. Lots
He has moved his tanks onto O'Leary territory.
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Lambert has no credibility. His words mean nothing.
This.
Don't make ****** out of the fans Lambert - we were not and have not been excellent . Don't make ****** out of us. Please.
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I sometimes think Lambert's tactics are either too complicated enough. Four central midfielders is a ridiculous decision, as is playing out-and-out strikers as wingers, but it's as if he spends all week meticulously analysing some half-weakness in an opposing right-back that might give him a slight edge, but when it doesn't come off, he's up shit creek. It's either that, or he just picks eleven footballers that he hasn't had a row with and lets them get on with it. Either way, I don't get his approach. At all.
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4 Central Midfielders.
WTF is that all about?
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We must never play cleverley Westwood and Sanchez in the same side!
To me we play Delph and Sanchez with possibly away from home when we are playing the likes of Chelsea is bring one other but to play all four today was outrageous
Gil must start and we need to get another creativity player in! Then gabby can start warming the bench!
We must play a minimum of 5 forward thinking creative players and not just three!
We still have a chance to stay up but he has to get a grip or resign
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Cowardly selection from the clueless one .
Gil should have started - Cleverley should be benched (at best) and Gabby should never wear claret and blue again ( seeing him as Captain beggars belief) .
It's just so predictable, frustrating, annoying and soul destroying .
When are they going to wake up ?
We are sleepwalking toward the trap door - and when we go down , these gutless wankers won't have the fight to get us back up anytime soon.
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I listened to Pat Murphy asking him a few questions. Lambert actually said "Can't fault them they were excellent". I can't believe Murphy did not go back with "OK Paul they were excellent than where is the problem?"
At one stage PM said "what about Gil Paul when he came on there was more speed and quick passing will you start with him next week?" Lambert replied " Hey errrr ummmmm he's a young lad joined us this week aha aaaa.. he is 20 years old we bought him in to provide something different". Will he F in play next week Paul?????
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Gabby is a busted flush.
A number of us said so last season. Some thought so before.
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There was one attack in the first half where the ball came across to Benteke who had FIVE Liverpool defenders within ten feet of him with not a single Villa player in sight.
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Bold, positive prediction - Carles Gil will be the reason we are not relegated.
Agreed. I enjoyed the Second half, although obviously their goal was a downer. I thought Gil's entry sparked Delph and Sanchez to life and I enjoyed the way our midfield looked mobile for the first time in I don't know how long. Yes our attack still looks inept but it's a confidence thing.
We'll beat Bournemouth next week and that will be a trigger for better times to come.
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Gabby has to be dropped on current form. It seems the best we can hpoe for is for him to be an impact player from the bench. Problem is we have so few other players with pace. Bacuna isn't too bad pace wise but that's it really.
For anyone who watched the game, did Gil look like he has any pace?
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I honestly don't know how I keep going down to watch this drivel. We always start games far too slowly we should be getting at teams from the off, teams must love coming here we just pass it around between ourselves doing fuck it all with it, we just give the incentive to the opposition every single game. I thought Gil looked really promising it seemed effortless for him and he actually took players on and was aware of what was going on around him, I'm sure Lambert will soon coach that out of him. Gabby and Cleverley were fucking awful.
The Holte End singing we'll score again don't know where don't know when was gallows humour at it's best.
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I watched it with no volume, was the booing bad?
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Gabby has to be dropped on current form. It seems the best we can hpoe for is for him to be an impact player from the bench. Problem is we have so few other players with pace. Bacuna isn't too bad pace wise but that's it really.
For anyone who watched the game, did Gil look like he has any pace?
The thing is with Bacuna, there's always a chance that he'll nick a goal from a free-kick. That alone must make him worth throwing into the side somewhere?
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@CarlesGil22
My apologies for today's result. It was good debut and I thank the fans for the support. #AVFC
What a lovely boy! Don't you just love him?!
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Score Villa score, we're gonna score. Once you get one that's it for the month.
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For anyone who watched the game, did Gil look like he has any pace?
Not the quickest or the slowest player I've seen but he's got some skill and can pick a pass.
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Gabby is a busted flush.
A number of us said so last season. Some thought so before.
Sadly, several of the people at Villa are a busted flush. Lambert being the biggest one. Untenable. Got to go.
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I knew it wasn't going to be our day when I saw Michael 'Something of the Night' Howard getting on the Witton train at New Street.
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Until Gil came on, that was shocking.
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I listened to Pat Murphy asking him a few questions. Lambert actually said "Can't fault them they were excellent". I can't believe Murphy did not go back with "OK Paul they were excellent than where is the problem?"
At one stage PM said "what about Gil Paul when he came on there was more speed and quick passing will you start with him next week?" Lambert replied " Hey errrr ummmmm he's a young lad joined us this week aha aaaa.. he is 20 years old we bought him in to provide something different". Will he F in play next week Paul?????
I listened to that interview, you must have better hearing than me because all I heard was some noise in response to Pat Murphy.
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Until Gil came on, that was shocking.
Yup. Even by current 'standards' today was really poor.
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Gabby has to be dropped on current form. It seems the best we can hpoe for is for him to be an impact player from the bench. Problem is we have so few other players with pace. Bacuna isn't too bad pace wise but that's it really.
For anyone who watched the game, did Gil look like he has any pace?
Gil has no pace but has decent feet and can beat a man.
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If Lerner is worried about paying him off, could we keep The Twit and use him as chief scout, while replacing him in a managerial capacity with someone with more than two brain cells?
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After Westwood and Cleverley were given the hook we started to look like a team. Gil changed the complexion of the game and if the Benteke effort had beaten Mignolet or if Baker had connected then I think we would've got at least a point.
Good things: Gil, Delph, Sanchez, Okore, Guzan, Hutton.
Bad things: Cleverley, Westwood, Agbonlahor.
Message to Lambert: there are at least three clubs that are more likely to be relegated than us so don't be scared. In Baker. Okore and Clark you have a cohort of centre-halves that can do a job - sell Vlaar for as much money as you can get. Keep Delph until the end of the season he may just save your job.
Message to Lerner: you came to the poker table with millions and Martin. You lost. And now you just keep ponying up just enough to keep you in the game. I'm not sure that that was what you and the General promised.
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I knew it wasn't going to be our day when I saw Michael 'Something of the Night' Howard getting on the Witton train at New Street.
Did he over rule the train guard
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I knew it wasn't going to be our day when I saw Michael 'Something of the Night' Howard getting on the Witton train at New Street.
Did he over rule the train guard
I don't know. Did he threaten to over rule him?
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Thanks chaps for the replies about Gil.
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We looked like a team for all of 15 mins, when we mustered a couple of half chances.
Once Liverpool got to grips with our changes, started a bit of time wasting to kill the tempo of the game and then go on to score their second, then our fight petered out.
I'd say (a poor) Liverpool coped with us pretty easily.
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If Lerner is worried about paying him off, could we keep The Twit and use him as chief scout, while replacing him in a managerial capacity with someone with more than two brain cells?
Keeping or paying him off equals same thing from money point of view.
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If we (the fans) were horses they would shoot us to put us out of our misery.The little spell when Carles and Weimann came on and we had a go was like a hallucianary window of pleasure ,the fans responding and it was great while it lasted.Unfortunately Brendao Rodgers is not a complete idiot and reacted with his own subs and we died on our feet.
Sad times at the moment,how much more of this do we have to endure?
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If Lerner is worried about paying him off, could we keep The Twit and use him as chief scout, while replacing him in a managerial capacity with someone with more than two brain cells?
Keeping or paying him off equals same thing from money point of view.
Not if we send him to Mosul on a scouting mission.
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Really poor until the last 25 minutes.
The so called protest failed to materialize. Some people arrived to their seats late, but thats the norm (never understood why people arrive late to games. They know what time it starts - its on the bloody ticket).
Really like the look of Gil. Looks pretty creative and we did get some really good chances, but you can see our confidence in the final third is shot to pieces. Agbonlahor is finished at this level, just has no desire any more.
Some reasons to be cautiously optimistic in the latter stages, but the harsh reality is its another game without a goal and that has to be sorted QUICKLY.
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The Danish commentator said "I have no sympathy for Lambert with that starting line-up". 4 central midfielders is cowardly, of course we would not create anything with that. We cannot have Cleverley, Westwood and Sanchez in the same team. Gil was very, very good, he certainly makes things happen. He created more in 10 minutes than Cleverley has done all season. Westwood is not the player who mostly deserves to be dropped, but the balance needs to be right. Actually a midfield with Delph+Sanchez and Gil in front of them looks very good. Having to watch Cleverley play knowing that he does not really want to be here is very frustrating. 1 goal in 7 league games and facing Arsenal and Chelsea next is just so depressing. With a bit of luck, we will score a league goal again on the 10. of February...
If only there would be a reaction, but we all know there wont. Lambert will still be here and he will still start with Agbonlahor and Cleverley and say we were excellent. I do not particularly want us to buy Sinclair, but having to listen to such a deal not being financially possible, makes you wonder when we will see a light at the end of the tunnel...
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Gabby is a busted flush.
A number of us said so last season. Some thought so before.
A number of us have said that for longer than that. Indeed, it was fairly predictable from day one how his career would pan out once his electric pace started to wane. The trouble is because he's the Brummie-boy who has also scored a few derby goals, he's been given a much longer length of rope by the supporters.
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I listened to Pat Murphy asking him a few questions. Lambert actually said "Can't fault them they were excellent". I can't believe Murphy did not go back with "OK Paul they were excellent than where is the problem?"
At one stage PM said "what about Gil Paul when he came on there was more speed and quick passing will you start with him next week?" Lambert replied " Hey errrr ummmmm he's a young lad joined us this week aha aaaa.. he is 20 years old we bought him in to provide something different". Will he F in play next week Paul?????
I listened to that interview, you must have better hearing than me because all I heard was some noise in response to Pat Murphy.
I must say it was difficult. I was in a traffic jam and my car has stop/start so I was able to hear something without engine noise but he is almost incoherent when answering questions under pressure.
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Liverpool are only an avarage side but they made us look third rate, give Benteke some leeway the injury was a bad one and he's missed a lot of football. Gabby has to go and Cleverly is crap i would send him back now. Gil had a very good cameo but will be wasted with players like Gabby and Weimann alongside him. We are a tolerant lot hardly a whisper of discontentent all game.
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Benteke is not putting himself into harms way and that makes him very ineffective.
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8 hours and 42 minutes since we last scored in the league,but don't worry chaps,Paul says if we keep on playing like we are he is sure the goals will come.Deluded idiot!
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And that protest thing was fucking pathetic. I watched about 30 people spill into a rammed Holte Lower on the 8th minute . Brilliant .
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Protest didn't appear to happen. One chap in front of me came in after 8 minutes but otherwise didn't notice anything except the presence of some OB in the Upper Holte concourse before the game. As for the game - same old same old although we had a decent spell of 20 minutes or so in the second half. Picking 4 central midfielders instead of variety beggars belief. Cleverley continues to offer the square root of fuck all, a view widely shared given the huge cheer when he was subbed (so Lambert's bound to fork out £8m for him); Gabby offers the same but he gets the role of captain; Benteke is so isolated he's easily marked out of the game; Baker has to be bottom of the pecking order for our CB's, and his air shot from 3 yards out would be comical if it wasn't so tragic....it just goes on.
But we have the makings of a decent squad, and any other manager would get far more out of it than Lambert does. Guzan is a good keeper; across the back Hutton, Okore, Vlaar, Senderos and Clark are all decent; Cissokho is OK in patches; in the middle Delph and Sanchez have genuine quality, Wetwood fulfils a role, and Gil looks to be a real find; up front Benteke on his day is a world beater. Lambert is just sucking the vitality out of the entire squad with the way he sets us up and the 'tactics' he employs. If things don't change I think we are certain to go down this year.
Gallows humour was much in evidence today - the resounding applause when we had our first attempt on target, chants of 'two shots on target, we've had two shots on target', and 'we'll score again, don't know where, don't know when...'
Maybe we should just change the club name to Aston Villa Nil
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Any no votes are from noses...
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The manager says we dominated the game, peppered their goal and their keeper kept them in it.
That's a big embellishment on 15 to 20 minutes of attacking play in a home game. I remember one decent save and some misdirected headers.
It appears we're heading down and we'll add some unwanted goalscoring records into the bargain.
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Can we not label people who may a different opinion blues fans or nutters etc please. You may not agree with them but they are entitled to their views.
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The manager says we dominated the game, peppered their goal and their keeper kept them in it.
That's a big embellishment on 15 to 20 minutes of attacking play in a home game. I remember one decent save and some misdirected headers.
It appears we're heading down and we'll add some unwanted goalscoring records into the bargain.
The manager is deluded . I don't take him seriously at all anymore .
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Nothing else to say (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyi8iHFqI5I&feature=youtu.be)
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There must be a playing clause in Cleverley's loan deal because I don't understand why he is playing every game.
Why on earth would there be?
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OS match report
Villa produced a much-improved performance but fell victim to killer blows from Fabio Borini and sub Rickie Lambert.
Borini opened the scoring in the 24th minute, although Paul Lambert's men threatened an equaliser during a sustained spell of pressure after new signing Carles Gil and Andi Weimann had gone on as 66th-minute substitutes.
But there was no way back after Lambert had drilled home the Merseysiders' second 11 minutes from the end.
Villa more than matched the visitors before falling behind, with chances arriving at both ends during an entertaining opening period.
After Philippe Coutino had fired wide in the second minute, the home side responded with an Ashley Westwood free-kick which Nathan Baker met with a glancing header which drifted beyond the far post.
Then Alan Hutton crossed for Christian Benteke to get in a header that was saved by Simon Mignolet, although Brad Guzan had to race from his line to save bravely at Raheem Sterling's feet in the 20th minute.
Four minutes later, though, Villa were caught napping when, following a throw-in on the right, Jordan Henderson whipped in a low centre and the unmarked Borini stretched to divert the ball past Guzan from six yards.
Guzan then saved a Coutinho header before Aly Cissokho's menacing cross from the left created an opportunity for Benteke.
The striker, unfortunately, was unable to bring the ball under control before Liverpool defenders crowded him out.
Sterling might have added a second goal for the Merseysiders in the 38th minute when he found himself clear with only Guzan to beat. He elected to try a lob, though, and the keeper was able to make a comfortable save from his weak effort.
Four minutes before the interval Carlos Sanchez tried his luck from 30 yards and it almost paid dividends, his skidding low drive being held by Mignolet at the second attempt.
And on the stroke of half-time, Tom Cleverley fired over after Westwood's superb pass had created the opening.
There were a couple of anxious moments at the second half.
First, Baker had to be alert with a timely challenge after Coutinho had sent Bornini clear, and then a header from Martin Skrtel brushed against the far post.
But the double substitution of Gil and Weimann gave Villa fresh impetus and in the 61st minute they were desperately unlucky not to draw level.
Fabian Delph, back after suspension, provided a teasing cross that was flicked on by Baker, and Benteke's ferocious drive looked a certain goal until Mignolet made an instinct save to push it away.
Then Gil displayed sublime skill to go past his marker before playing the ball wide to Weimann - and only just failing to make contact with the Austrian's return pass.
As Villa maintained the pressure, Baker sent a header just too high from Delph's corner before Delph's forceful run culminated with a perfect pass into Benteke's slipstream, forcing Skrtel into a desperate lunging challenge at the expense of a corner.
Just as an equaliser looked imminent, though, the home side were rocked by a second Liverpool goal in the 79th minute.
Guzan did well to tip away Lucas's low drive for a corner, and although Villa initially cleared the flag kick, Sterling was able to thread a pass through to Lambert, who drilled a low angled shot beyond the keeper and into the far corner.
It was an uphill battle after that, although Gil displayed some delightful touches and Delph was only just over with a chip shot before forcing Mignolet into a late save with a long-range effort.
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OS
Paul Lambert was upbeat despite the defeat to Liverpool - praising his team's "relentless" second half and the performances of Carles Gil and Fabian Delph.
Lambert was frustrated and disappointed following the loss at Leicester but he was much happier with the display against last season's Barclays Premier League runners-up.
The Reds may have run out 2-0 winners courtesy of goals from Fabio Borini and Rickie Lambert but Villa were on top for long periods after the break.
They had a host of chances to score but came up against an inspired Simon Mignolet in the Liverpool goal.
Boss Lambert is positive that goals and results are around the corner if his players continue in the same vein.
He said: "I thought we were excellent in the second half. I thought we were relentless.
"The goalkeeper has had a great second half.
"The way we played the game, I thought, was excellent. On another day we get one or two goals.
"We just have to keep doing what we're doing. If we do that, as I said to the lads, the goals will come.
"The goalkeeper has made some great saves. You'd be more worried if you weren't creating chances.
"I was disappointed last week but this week I couldn't ask for any more other than a goal. That was only thing that was missing.
"As long as the lads stick together and don't break ranks and keep at it, they will turn it around.
"Carlos Gil came on and he was excellent. It was as good a debut as I have seen in a long time for a lad who has just come from another country and probably doesn't know everybody's name.
"You can see he is a top talent.
"The way he played, he was outstanding. He has a real good temperament.
"He's played at a massive club in Spain. When he finds his feet - and if he keeps performing the way he did - Villa will have a top, top player on their hands.
"Fabian has been a big loss. When you lose someone of that ilk for three games, the suspension was long. And, of course, he had the shoulder injury.
"He's been excellent. The good thing with Fabian is that you always know what you're going to get from him.
"Today his game was top-class."
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The most depressing aspect of the game was not that we should at least have drawn against a poor Liverpool side, not that the selection of Cleverley illustrates Lambert's cluelessness, not that Gabby and Weimann can't compete at PL level, but that we're so used to losing and not scoring that we, the supporters, just accept that this is the norm. We're lucky still be 14th but after the next couple of defeats, 3 if you include Hull, we'll be in the bottom 3 and may well stay there. No one who's been to the last few games will be surprised.
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Why on earth is Cleverley picked without fail every week? It can not be for how well he plays!
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Biggest chear today was when notsocleverly got subbed
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Why on earth is Cleverley picked without fail every week? It can not be for how well he plays!
God knows, but clubs only insist on a paying clause if they are interested in seeing a player develop or gain experience. Man Utd just want Cleverley to see out his contract (which ends this season) somewhere else, they couldn't give a shiny shite if he plays or not.
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Went to the game today and left a little less frustrated than in recent weeks. I accept that we weren't great today for a lot of the game and didn't score again, but there were some encouraging signs at times in the second half.
Once Westwood and Cleverley went off, we looked a lot more energetic and I thought Gil showed some real promise. We got in some decent positions, but the final ball (particularly from the full-backs) was not great. Lambert is going nowhere so I just hope he builds on it going forward. If we could add a couple of decent wide attacking players we might just be alright.
Team against Bournemouth:
Guzan
Hutton Okore Clark Cissokho
Sanchez Delph
Bacuna Gil Grealish
Benteke
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Liverpool won't have an easier game all season.
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Liverpool won't have an easier game all season.
Amusingly one of their hardest games of the season at home is us every season.
That is pure mental.
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In his interview with Pat Murphy, who sounded like he felt sorry for the twit, Lambert had the cheek to mumble something about how much Liverpool's team was worth. The excuses will continue to come, make no bones about it.
That annoyed me. Lots
He has moved his tanks onto O'Leary territory.
Said the same on Sky as well. Diabolical excuse. chelsea they aint
As others have said Liverpool were v average. The quietest away support I can ever recall from a fairly full stand
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Thought the Liverpool end was quite loud at times . Mostly wanks Stevie G bollox though
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For anyone who watched the game, did Gil look like he has any pace?
Not the quickest or the slowest player I've seen but he's got some skill and can pick a pass.
The things I noticed are:
He is technically good
Can take someone and beat them through skill and little shimmies rather than pace
He moves the play on quickly and I noticed Weimann benefitted from that when he came on. We got round the back of Liverpool on several occasions but either due to a poor final ball or decent defending it came to nothing.
His passing was incisive and some of through balls were good. Once his colleagues wake up to his potential we may score one of these days!
For a small guy he protects the ball well and to get the ball off him you either fail or have to foul him
I was impressed
Just a shame our manager didnt see fit to start him
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A few thoughts..........
Cleverley is just as bad out wide as he is in the middle.
A midfield of Fab, Carlos and Carles has potential.
Gabby must be dropped. What's the point in playing a striker who won't shoot and can't pass.
Tekkers seems disinterested. Losing multiple heading duels to Lucas is not acceptable.
Nathan Baker made it through a game without once going down injured.
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http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/paul-lambert-aston-villa-score-8467009
Every little things gonna be all right.
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For such a relentless beating that Liverpool took I can only remember Mignolet making 2 saves, am I forgetting something?
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Liverpool's and Everton's away support is always dog shit, especially compared to when their nemisis from up the East Lancs come to play at B6.
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I actually thought second half that if we had say Sinclair in Swansea form and another forward to replace Gabby we would have probably scored. Gil looked great but Gabby was just diabolically bad.
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Nothing Lambert says rings true nor sounds convincing any more. And nothing he does has any positive impact. An utterly busted flush.
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Baker & Benteke missed easy chances that Aston Villa simply cannot afford to miss.
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Gil was superb. He just looks so comfortable on the ball. Reminded me of Benteke's debut in the sense that everyone who was there knew we had a player on our hands.
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Lamberts bullshitting us getting worse.
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Lambert's greatest apparent interest is in covering his own arse. Excuses are his speciality. If we get relegated there will be reasons why it's not his fault.
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Lambert's greatest apparent interest is in covering his own arse. Excuses are his speciality. If we get relegated there will be reasons why it's not his fault.
we'll have been excellent all season and yet go down.
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Gil was superb. He just looks so comfortable on the ball. Reminded me of Benteke's debut in the sense that everyone who was there knew we had a player on our hands.
How he didn't start I have no idea.
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With this goal scoring record, we are fast becoming a laughing stock.
We are humiliatingly bad. Playing OK for ten minutes against a truly mediocre Liverpool side is nothing like good enough.
I saw the back page of The Sun today. They referred to us as Aston Nilla.
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Darren Bent would have scored from 1 of the goalmouth scrambles today. The fact he's not here and we have no striking options is pure incompetence .
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The Darren Bent who was the reason Derby lost today? Turn it in.
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The Darren Bent who was the reason Derby lost today? Turn it in.
He only had 14 mins on the pitch .
Point is lambert has left us with fuck all striking options , we didn't have a single striker on the bench today
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Darren Bent's like Adam Sandler: how much shit does he need to produce before everyone gives up on him? (Adam Sandler was good in Punch Drunk Love, and it makes me angry.)
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Watched the game whilst at my Nephew's birthday party on Danish TV.
Why was your nephew's birthday party on TV? Is he famous?
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Darren Bent's like Adam Sandler: how much shit does he need to produce before everyone gives up on him? (Adam Sandler was good in Punch Drunk Love, and it makes me angry.)
See Agbonlahor . G
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I'm not too sure what a midfield of four center midfielders was going to achieve. Once Weimann and the new lad came on, it looked much better. We were still poor though.
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Darren Bent would have scored from 1 of the goalmouth scrambles today. The fact he's not here and we have no striking options is pure incompetence .
fucking hell not again. You gonna start another thread lighting a candle for old Benty?
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After Westwood and Cleverley were given the hook we started to look like a team. Gil changed the complexion of the game and if the Benteke effort had beaten Mignolet or if Baker had connected then I think we would've got at least a point.
Good things: Gil, Delph, Sanchez, Okore, Guzan, Hutton.
Bad things: Cleverley, Westwood, Agbonlahor.
Message to Lambert: there are at least three clubs that are more likely to be relegated than us so don't be scared. In Baker. Okore and Clark you have a cohort of centre-halves that can do a job - sell Vlaar for as much money as you can get. Keep Delph until the end of the season he may just save your job.
Message to Lerner: you came to the poker table with millions and Martin. You lost. And now you just keep ponying up just enough to keep you in the game. I'm not sure that that was what you and the General promised.
Delph was awful today and his mistake basically ended the game on 79 minutes, he also gave the ball away numerous times with some terrible long passes when the smart option was only a few feet away.
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Westwood was quite good but I agree we looked much better after the subs
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I would have been happy if we'd just have been able to score, let alone actually get some points. We're in big shit if this carries on, somebody needs to do something now whether it's get a new manager or spend a lot of money on players. Or both.
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We can't just keep going on the hope we are going to score no matter what Lambore comes out with, it's not a new phenomenon it's been all his reign bar 3 months at the end of the first season. Start sounding out some decent managers now.
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Best fun I had today was spotting Midland Liverpool fans in the Upper Trinity. Any middle-aged bloke with a child with a half n' half looking perplexed for starters - fucking hundreds of them
This included the three blokes and a woman in front of me who spent the entire game filming the away support singing or taking snaps of the Liverpool team.
When I couldn't stand it any more I started asking the what they were doing and they duly explained, I then asked them why Villa fans would do this and the look of growing panic was great. After a couple more snaps I simply asked in a loud voice "who do you support then" and one chap said "Arsenal" - this drew a lot of laughter especially when one bloke asked "what the fuck you doing here then?"
As for the game - we went forward for 20 minutes in the second half and it was exciting, then it was 2-0 and shit again as we didn't score again.
I give up saying anything about Lambert now as he's going nowhere.
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Darren Bent would have scored from 1 of the goalmouth scrambles today. The fact he's not here and we have no striking options is pure incompetence .
fucking hell not again. You gonna start another thread lighting a candle for old Benty?
Point missed . No striker on bench today.
Brilliant move .
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I must have missed Weimann coming on.
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I must have missed Weimann coming on.
As an out of position midfielder yes . As he has been played for 2 years now. Please pay more attention ;)
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Weimann is a striker.
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Weimann is a striker.
Playing in midfield . As he has done for 2 years now . Possibly longer .
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After Westwood and Cleverley were given the hook we started to look like a team. Gil changed the complexion of the game and if the Benteke effort had beaten Mignolet or if Baker had connected then I think we would've got at least a point.
Good things: Gil, Delph, Sanchez, Okore, Guzan, Hutton.
Bad things: Cleverley, Westwood, Agbonlahor.
Message to Lambert: there are at least three clubs that are more likely to be relegated than us so don't be scared. In Baker. Okore and Clark you have a cohort of centre-halves that can do a job - sell Vlaar for as much money as you can get. Keep Delph until the end of the season he may just save your job.
Message to Lerner: you came to the poker table with millions and Martin. You lost. And now you just keep ponying up just enough to keep you in the game. I'm not sure that that was what you and the General promised.
Delph was awful today and his mistake basically ended the game on 79 minutes, he also gave the ball away numerous times with some terrible long passes when the smart option was only a few feet away.
Because he was taking some risks. Our midfield has been shit all season because they all play it safe far too often.
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A few thoughts..........
A midfield of Fab, Carlos and Carles has potential.
Gabby must be dropped. What's the point in playing a striker who won't shoot and can't pass.
Should be the midfield line up going forward. Westwood and Cleverley are so one dimensional.
Getting at least one wide attacking player in the window (whether it be on loan or a permanent deal) is an absolute must. Agbonlahor and Weimann are currently impact subs at best.
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I honestly think Sanchez sat in front of Okore and +1 CB is enough defensive central cover .
The other 3 midfielders need to be offensive based so play Gil, Delph (more advanced ) and a Bacuna / Grealish type !
Time to sort it Lambo you div
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Going back to the four across the midfield today, you would have thought Bacuna on the right would have been a good idea. To be honest though, I don't think he wanted to drop any of them which is why he played them all.
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Gabby is a waste of a shirt. He's about as much use as a pair of sunglasses to a bloke with one ear.
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Well what did we really expect? Another loss, another nil. Played OK at start of second half but generally it was shit and the goals for is a serious problem.
It is so obvious that Lambert isn't taking us anywhere other than down nor will he. Sack him already, please. Futile I know but it's got to be said.
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Also I can't stand Liverpool. One plus of going down would be not playing those ******.
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Oh, what the fuck has happened to our club.In 40 + years I don't think I have been so negative about our future..The future's not bright..it's more grey.
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Going back to the four across the midfield today, you would have thought Bacuna on the right would have been a good idea. To be honest though, I don't think he wanted to drop any of them which is why he played them all.
Which in itself is another damning indictment of his managerial abilities.
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Westwood Sanchez
Bacuna Delph
Gil
Benteke
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Some points from today, firstly, Liverpool were nothing more than average. Today, more so the second half, we went away from the keep ball & went more direct. With a bit of luck we'd have scored. An all too familiar day of 'could have beens' which is slightly better than the past few weeks. But ultimately we lost & failed to score again. We really needed to score in that 20 mins whilst we were on top.
Gabby is not good enough. In fairness to Baker, it was his first game in a couple of months, but he really isn't good enough either.
Cleverley never really wanted to sign for us & it shows. He brings nothing to the team. Cheering his substitution really doesn't help anyone & was uncalled for.
Full backs don't have the quality needed when they get into attacking positions.
Delph & Benteke are simply playing for themselves, which means Delph might as well be sold now. Did Benteke win a header all day?
Gil looks really promising, movement, good touch & incisive passing. Also linked well with Weimann.
We are better a better team than the results show but Lamberts selections & tactics show he's not up to it.
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You can post tactics, formations and team selections on here until the cows come home.
Regardless of what they are, just remember who is ACTUALLY doing it, and realise that what is put in here means absolutely jack shit.
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He's still trying to use the fuels backs as width. It's an utterly shit tactic and he doesn't see it. He must think we have Carlos Alberto and Roberto Carlos and not Hutton and Cissokho back there. Dope. It improved once Gil came on because, apparently he is good at it. I have no doubt in the next game he'll go back to the same old shit and drop Gil to the bench.
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Some points from today, firstly, Liverpool were nothing more than average. Today, more so the second half, we went away from the keep ball & went more direct. With a bit of luck we'd have scored. An all too familiar day of 'could have beens' which is slightly better than the past few weeks. But ultimately we lost & failed to score again. We really needed to score in that 20 mins whilst we were on top.
Gabby is not good enough. In fairness to Baker, it was his first game in a couple of months, but he really isn't good enough either.
Cleverley never really wanted to sign for us & it shows. He brings nothing to the team. Cheering his substitution really doesn't help anyone & was uncalled for.
Full backs don't have the quality needed when they get into attacking positions.
Delph & Benteke are simply playing for themselves, which means Delph might as well be sold now. Did Benteke win a header all day?
Gil looks really promising, movement, good touch & incisive passing. Also linked well with Weimann.
We are better a better team than the results show but Lamberts selections & tactics show he's not up to it.
What does westy give us any More than I can? I can point and not pick up players from the Doug Ellis lower
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What does westy give us more than I can? I can point and not pick up a Man from my seat?
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Tell you what the caterers are going to have be at the wholesalers first thing monday morning to make sure pepper supplies are topped up
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Brendan Rodgers is pleased with a clean sheet. He hasn't heard about us has he?
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Just watched MOTD, Benteke and Baker missed sitters to be fair. We looked very open at the back. Baker's complete lack of positional sense not good enough at this level.
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Tell you what the caterers are going to have be at the wholesalers first thing monday morning to make sure pepper supplies are topped up
Its just boring now. The football, the stats, the "he hasn't since scoring against Aston Villa", the "he hasn't but he has now against Aston Villa" and most of all, being the "better side" then getting dicked on.
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A tiny defence of Lambert these past few weeks is that our players have failed when put into the few goal scoring opportunities that have arisen. That isn't the managers fault.
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Just watched MOTD, Benteke and Baker missed sitters to be fair. We looked very open at the back. Baker's complete lack of positional sense not good enough at this level.
Just saw the goals after being at the game. Agree about Baker, but Okore totally lost Borini for their first goal.
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Where's Clark? suspended?
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Where's Clark? suspended?
Sending off in the last game, two yellows.
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Watching MOTD tonight has seen me witness some jammy goals and deflections. Why can't we get one to bounce off a knee?
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He's still trying to use the fuels backs as width. It's an utterly shit tactic and he doesn't see it. He must think we have Carlos Alberto and Roberto Carlos and not Hutton and Cissokho back there. Dope. It improved once Gil came on because, apparently he is good at it. I have no doubt in the next game he'll go back to the same old shit and drop Gil to the bench.
Going to have to try Richardson and Bacuna on the wings with Gil off Benteke.
Bojan, Eriksen provided moments of quality that won their sides games today, we have nothing in midfield that remotely compares to those two even.
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PS - the two CBs looked poor today.
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In fairness to Baker, he's only trained for a week after 2 months out, he was bound to be a bit rusty. I don't think there's any way we'd have started him but for necessity. And it was a very good challenge he did in the second half.
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PPS - Ruud's MOTD performance is almost on a par with our current form.
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Just watched MOTD, Benteke and Baker missed sitters to be fair. We looked very open at the back. Baker's complete lack of positional sense not good enough at this level.
Just saw the goals after being at the game. Agree about Baker, but Okore totally lost Borini for their first goal.
Think Cleverley should take the majority of blame for the first. Let Henderson run behind him for the cross
Delph lost the ball for the second but Baker pushed up stupidly afterwards instead of holding his position.
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Liverpool are not a great team. What they do far better than us, (basically because on the whole we don't), is create space and offer opportunities to the man in possession. We are unbelievably static. Movement off the ball is so poor. What goes on in training?
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He's still trying to use the fuels backs as width. It's an utterly shit tactic and he doesn't see it. He must think we have Carlos Alberto and Roberto Carlos and not Hutton and Cissokho back there. Dope. It improved once Gil came on because, apparently he is good at it. I have no doubt in the next game he'll go back to the same old shit and drop Gil to the bench.
Going to have to try Richardson and Bacuna on the wings with Gil off Benteke.
I see Richardson as more of a central midfielder these days. We desperately need to bring wide players in.
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Liverpool are not a great team. What they do far better than us, (basically because on the whole we don't), is create space and offer opportunities to the man in possession. We are unbelievably static. Movement off the ball is so poor. What goes on in training?
that was my observation today and it can only be coaching, Rodgers is hands on and good at pass and move, we are not great at passing and hardly move at all.
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A few thoughts..........
Cleverley is just as bad out wide as he is in the middle.
This is unfair. There is only one place where Cleverley looks bad and that's a football pitch.
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I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that with us lacking an assistant manager, and Lambert by his own admission doesn't spend much time taking training, the players must just be left to their own devices at Bodymoor Heath.
It would explain the complete lack of tactics, the don't lose to badly or someone will start asking questions performances, the inability to alter the starting 11 unless forced by injuries.
(Move to conspiracy theories thread if more appropriate :-) )
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Liverpool are not a great team. What they do far better than us, (basically because on the whole we don't), is create space and offer opportunities to the man in possession. We are unbelievably static. Movement off the ball is so poor. What goes on in training?
that was my observation today and it can only be coaching, Rodgers is hands on and good at pass and move, we are not great at passing and hardly move at all.
It's been like it for a long, long time so the lack of coaching it most probably is. Sanchez stands out as an exception but he needs the team mates to pass to.
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He's still trying to use the fuels backs as width. It's an utterly shit tactic and he doesn't see it. He must think we have Carlos Alberto and Roberto Carlos and not Hutton and Cissokho back there. Dope. It improved once Gil came on because, apparently he is good at it. I have no doubt in the next game he'll go back to the same old shit and drop Gil to the bench.
Going to have to try Richardson and Bacuna on the wings with Gil off Benteke.
Bojan, Eriksen provided moments of quality that won their sides games today, we have nothing in midfield that remotely compares to those two even.
He needs to stop the tactic of full backs as wing backs. He needs to keep Hutton and Cissokho as traditional full backs there to defend and only go higher up to protect the space opened by the attacking winger from that side. Then have specialist players in midfield and attack. Until then we are simply going to horrible.
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I disagree with that, what we're doing with the fullbacks getting forward is ok so long as people offer them some support. In the spell in the 2ns half where we looked decent Weimann, Gil and Delph got a lot closer to the fullbacks when they were coming forward and we looked a lot more capable.
What needs to change is the players need to be coached and encouraged to make runs and find angles for each other. The thing that pains me most watching us is seeing Cisskho get closed down by 2-3 players and the only person who seems concerned with helping him out a little is sanchez who's 20 yards back and in the middle, all whilst Gabby, Cleverley, etc wander around aimlessly not getting involved but not getting in the box either.
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[I disagree with that, what we're doing with the fullbacks getting forward is ok so long as people offer them some support. In the spell in the 2ns half where we looked decent Weimann, Gil and Delph got a lot closer to the fullbacks when they were coming forward and we looked a lot more capable.
What needs to change is the players need to be coached and encouraged to make runs and find angles for each other. The thing that pains me most watching us is seeing Cisskho get closed down by 2-3 players and the only person who seems concerned with helping him out a little is sanchez who's 20 yards back and in the middle, all whilst Gabby, Cleverley, etc wander around aimlessly not getting involved but not getting in the box either.
Lambert doesn't believe in width & is negative.
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I disagree with that, what we're doing with the fullbacks getting forward is ok so long as people offer them some support. In the spell in the 2ns half where we looked decent Weimann, Gil and Delph got a lot closer to the fullbacks when they were coming forward and we looked a lot more capable.
What needs to change is the players need to be coached and encouraged to make runs and find angles for each other. The thing that pains me most watching us is seeing Cisskho get closed down by 2-3 players and the only person who seems concerned with helping him out a little is sanchez who's 20 yards back and in the middle, all whilst Gabby, Cleverley, etc wander around aimlessly not getting involved but not getting in the box either.
The prime example was Gil, from the time he came on he was always making space ahead of the ball i'm worried that he might be too advanced for our plodders.
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Again Lambert's mind set not to lose a game comes shining through, how he can call that excellent, beggars belief. 4 cent midfielders says it all.
If Gill had started it may just have allowed us to start a game with something we never do, momentum.
Okore looked poor at times today, but honestly believe that is because he had no faith in Baker.
Cleverly enough already said, but all of it correct, we dont wnat him, he does not want us, bye bye.
Benteke is waiting for things to happen, not making them happen, with our lack of creativity, we need more from him.
Then come to our esteemed captain, Gabby, just opened a web page 'who scored .com. The below comments say it all
Weaknesses, 5 in all, Holding onto the ball, Passing, Crossing, Aerial duels and Defensive contribution.
Strengths, Player has no significant strengths, yes it says No significant strengths.
I did not go on this page for that, there was a comment made by Andy Gray yesterday before the match, that I think stated in 150 games he has scored 28 goals, wanted to check that, but that's not on there but the strengths and weaknesses are and with that our Tactically aware Manager Mr. Paul Lambert gives him the great honuor of being Captain of Aston Villa Football Club, that sums up where he has taken us and where we are going with him in charge.
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Any other club would have seen this a long time ago - said 'thanks for the memories Gabby' cos that's all they are now - he's way, way past any peak - and got rid (to the long line of clubs that were queueing up to buy him !?!?)
Our shambles of a club said ' let's give him a new 4 year contract and make him Captain'
It's so annoying.
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I didn't watch I heard the update on talk shite, what upsets Me more than the defeat is that I seem to be falling out of love with it all. Please go for Fuck sake
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At least when things started going crap for McLeish you had the awareness that it wasn't going to go on, and he would get the sack eventually. But, with Lambert we don't have that feeling. That's what gets to me the most - I honestly believe he'll keep his job. That's what frustrates me the most. I don't want to care any more, but I do. More fool me. Becuase Lerner doesn't give a fuck as long as we stay in the league and 30,000 people are paying. Sad times. If we keep flirting with relegation then it'll catch up with us. We'll turn into a Forest, Leeds and Sheff Wednesday.
that's my uneducated, poorly written rant over. For now.
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You can post tactics, formations and team selections on here until the cows come home.
Regardless of what they are, just remember who is ACTUALLY doing it, and realise that what is put in here means absolutely jack shit.
Spot on, with this tosser in charge you can talk for ever about playing the two full backs as centre forwards, the goalkeeper as an extra attacker at corners and bringing Carlos Cuellar back as our creative attacking midfield presence and still it would mean fuck all while we have endure the two pathetic idiots running our club
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Aston Villa. All fart and no shit since 2012.
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At least when things started going crap for McLeish you had the awareness that it wasn't going to go on, and he would get the sack eventually. But, with Lambert we don't have that feeling. That's what gets to me the most - I honestly believe he'll keep his job. That's what frustrates me the most. I don't want to care any more, but I do. More fool me. Becuase Lerner doesn't give a fuck as long as we stay in the league and 30,000 people are paying. Sad times. If we keep flirting with relegation then it'll catch up with us. We'll turn into a Forest, Leeds and Sheff Wednesday.
that's my uneducated, poorly written rant over. For now.
I will have to remind you that exactly the same the same things were being said by most people right up to Mcliesh being sacked,
'He's going nowhere' was as is now a particular favourite
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We are now getting close to the bottom three and Mr Lerner will start to panic very soon. As nobody wants to buy the club his only option is to get rid of the manager. He might do this,although it will cost him money, but he will have to rely on Tom Fox to provide any information on who might be available to take over. I wouldn't be sure Tom Fox has the knowledge to do this . I think there could be a chance that Sir Alex may be contacted and asked if he would take over until this season is over.
Fergie might just say yes.
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It's the morning after and I'm still baffled as to why he thought packing a Gerrard free midfield with four center midfielders and playing Hutton as the main source to get crosses into the box was a good idea. No wonder we don't bloody score.
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We are now getting close to the bottom three and Mr Lerner will start to panic very soon. As nobody wants to buy the club his only option is to get rid of the manager. He might do this,although it will cost him money, but he will have to rely on Tom Fox to provide any information on who might be available to take over. I wouldn't be sure Tom Fox has the knowledge to do this . I think there could be a chance that Sir Alex may be contacted and asked if he would take over until this season is over.
Fergie might just say yes.
Quite right Ron as when we get to 14 left and in bottom 3 with 22 points from 24 games Lerner and Co will be shitting themselves as they see money flowing out of their wells.
Yes if Fergie comes here and turns this club around aka SGT than I will regard him as the greatest ever coach in our game.
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[quote authhor=pooligan link=topic=53457.msg2751858#msg2751858 date=1421516591]
If our silent and never seen clueless owner cared or had any feeling for our once proud club at all,he would sack the clueless idiot we call a manager tonight and give us some hope
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I saw the film Foxcatcher recently. In it a cluless american billionaire John Du Pont took over the USA olympic wrestling team. Everyone knew he was clueless but went along with the pretence that he knew what he was doing.
Ring any bells?
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Instead of calling sir Alex why don't Lerner just give the chairman of Southampton a call,
casually try dropping into conversation who he would be going for next if he needs to replace his manager
Then go get him
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@CarlesGil22
My apologies for today's result. It was good debut and I thank the fans for the support. #AVFC
What a lovely boy! Don't you just love him?!
Did my ears deceive me or did that fucking wanker of a stadium announcer announce him as "Barry Bannan" when he came on yesterday? Welcome to the fucking biggest circus in town Carles! :-[
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Your ears deceived you.
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Not read the thread yet we go back and read .
I'm still pissed off with that team he started with , all week he's been saying we need creativity and he starts with that midfield .
I looked at the Liverpool team and thought , these are beatable , lets have a go at these at least but no , so predictable.
Cleverly can f##k off now , he's shit and don't want to even play for us .
Gabby is finished as a prem player , he will be a championship player with us next season at this rate.
So we were poor for about 60 mins and should have been 3 down before he made the subs.
Gil looked good , just makes me think if lambert had bought this kind of player two seasons ago when the average fan knew we were crying out for one .
So good for ten minutes with a couple of chances and then the second goal killed us .
This club is in serious trouble.
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I don't know how good Gil is , he's only a 3million pound player from Valencia whom he hardly played for , but we have been so dire with no creativity at all , even Gil was a refreshing change in that team and it was just nice to see it.
A position lambert should have sorted ages ago and spent proper money in that area instead of some other areas he did.
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Funny part was when Gill beat a player, looked to lay it off to his right... but there was no width, then turned in side to pass it out left and again no overlap... He'll learn.
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Haven't read the thread (just got in) but I can guess what the usual suspects are saying. The thing is we have several good players who would benefit from a change of management and coaching. Unfortunately the two employees that should be leaving the club that is Lambert and Agbonlahor are guaranteed a job for as long as they like. We have players in form mainly Sanchez and Hutton and Guzan and players like Delph and Benteke who have the skill level to do well in this hard league. This manager appears to have bought a skillful player in Gil and Okore looks like he will be a big success in time.
I would make Lambert chief scout and get a progressive manager in as soon as possible. Offer the job to Frank Lampard. Tell him he can play as well.
Its not all bad news,but time is starting to run out for the needed changes.
Ron,
I actually dreamt our new manager was frank lampard last week. Strange
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Checked the Gabby stat from earlier, in fact it is 29 goals, all competitions, in his last 151 games, just the stuff that Captains and Inspiration is made from in Mr. Lamberts eyes. God help us..
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Aston Villa. All fart and no shit since 2012.
Aston Villa. Severely constipated since May 2011.
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Eight hours and forty-two minutes without a goal. Hungarian director Bela Tarr's excruciating and unremittingly grim film 'Satantango' is only seven hours and twenty minutes long. In the film there's a 10-minute-long shot of a field of cows, in the rain. There's a cat torture scene. There are demoralised peasants drinking themselves to death in it. It's in black and white. And yet - and yet - it's still infinitely more cheery, palatable and life-affirming than Aston Villa under Paul Lambert and Randy Lerner.
I'm off to drink a jerry can of red diesel and hang myself in a Hungarian cattle shed.
Thank you, you have cheered me up massively :D
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Ron,
I actually dreamt our new manager was frank lampard last week. Strange
Clearly you have a thing for Frank and annoyingly so does my wife!
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I don't know how good Gil is , he's only a 3million pound player from Valencia whom he hardly played for
I guess players like Gil are 10 a penny in Spain but almost non existence in UK. You only have look at Spain and Barca midfield over the last ten years and go by players who were almost world class but couldn't make it into those two teams to realise that there is a production line.
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If you go to Barcelona and you are of average height, say 5 foot ten inches and you are walking down the Ramblas, look ahead of you and you will be looking over most of the people and of the others, most of them will be tourists. The Spanish are a very short, stocky and wiry people by and large. Statistically they suffer the least from the two height related ailments of western society, slipped discs and piles. However, their concept of football is not Roy Race or Roy of the Rovers stuff with great bullocking centre forwards ramming bullet headers in the net. Their view of our style of football is contemptous of its obsession with physicality and neglect of brain and imagination. And God do we need some brain and imagination in our team at the moment.
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Ron,
I actually dreamt our new manager was frank lampard last week. Strange
Clearly you have a thing for Frank and annoyingly so does my wife!
I had an ex fiance who had a thing for David Seaman.
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Ron,
I actually dreamt our new manager was frank lampard last week. Strange
Clearly you have a thing for Frank and annoyingly so does my wife!
I had an ex fiance who had a thing for David Seaman.
If ever there was an open invite for a line that's it. But I can't think of one so I'll get me coat
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Just looking on stats zone.
Gil made 21/25 passes when he was on.
Gabby made 10/10.
Awful.
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Somebody behind me made the very good point after the ball was bobbing about in their six yard box and Benteke effectively stood looking at it. He said "If that was Peter Withe, the ball, the goalkeeper and at least two defenders would have gone into the net". Christian Benteke of a year ago would have come steaming into those situations and there was only ever going to be one winner,
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Ron,
I actually dreamt our new manager was frank lampard last week. Strange
Clearly you have a thing for Frank and annoyingly so does my wife!
I had an ex fiance who had a thing for David Seaman.
If ever there was an open invite for a line that's it. But I can't think of one so I'll get me coat
I can think of hundreds, but none of them for the delicate ears that grace H&V!
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Somebody behind me made the very good point after the ball was bobbing about in their six yard box and Benteke effectively stood looking at it. He said "If that was Peter Withe, the ball, the goalkeeper and at least two defenders would have gone into the net". Christian Benteke of a year ago would have come steaming into those situations and there was only ever going to be one winner,
Remember his goal in the the pre-season game against Malaga? And that was a fucking friendly!
I posted in the match thread that he received two really good crosses early on in the game, one from Hutton and one from Gabby, and he gave no acknowledgment to either player. A very bad sign, I would say.
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So Gabby has managed to score 29 goals in his last 151 games in all competitions.Only under mr clueless could he be one of the first names on the team sheet and made captain.No wonder we are in a mess!
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Can't believe he is captain.
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So Gabby has managed to score 29 goals in his last 151 games in all competitions.Only under mr clueless could he be one of the first names on the team sheet and made captain.No wonder we are in a mess!
Still a better ratio than Heskey!
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in the opta stats, Gabby and Benteke covered the least amount of ground out of all our outfield players who completed the whole game. And therein lies a large part of our problems
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in the opta stats, Gabby and Benteke covered the least amount of ground out of all our outfield players who completed the whole game. And therein lies a large part of our problems
Unfortunately for us our defence is 20% of our problems, midfield is 50% of our problems, goalscoring 80% of our problems and our manager 90% of our problems. That is before we factor in the owner. Mathematically that is a lot of 'problem'.
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How on earth is he captain? It makes him essentially in the side till Vlaar is back, whatever happens?
I just don't get it with him - even his pace has gone. There was a moment when Gil beat a man and slipped Hutton in - great position in the area and I thought that is exactly the run from wide Gabby should be making there. He might not have done any more with the ball than Hutton did mind!
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in the opta stats, Gabby and Benteke covered the least amount of ground out of all our outfield players who completed the whole game. And therein lies a large part of our problems
Unfortunately for us our defence is 20% of our problems, midfield is 50% of our problems, goalscoring 80% of our problems and our manager 90% of our problems. That is before we factor in the owner. Mathematically that is a lot of 'problem'.
Very good, made me chuckle! Thank you
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Like it CABB ,made me laugh to !
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An old mate of mine (who I didn't realise read the board) has posted a link to this thread on Facebook, stating that Jimbo's post on the Hungarian film director was the single best post he's read on here.
I was close to agreeing, but mused that for me the best post was whoever it was that described MON as a "vichy c**t"
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Yeah, I had to google that Hungarian fella. H&V - where high art and threads on poohing are a regular juxtaposition.
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Are we having a guess the crowd for Bournemouth?
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so according to WhoScored - Alan Hutton had the "Most Accurate Crosses (5)" over the weekend. Nothing to show for it though..
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Are we having a guess the crowd for Bournemouth?
Doubt it as we didn't for the previous round.