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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Rick_avfc on May 17, 2011, 05:06:39 PM
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Anyone have any idea of who our new sponsors will be? Haven't seen any rumours :-\
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Only rumour I've heard (with no idea about how reliable it is) is HTC.
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I've read a few things..
HTC were mentioned, but I think that's just 2+2=5 with the Android app launch etc.
The General said on VT that a few companies were waiting to see our fate (relegation) before anything was signed.
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Bells
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Bells
Or Co-op Funeral Directors
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I heard that it will either be 'CBBC', 'Nickleodeon' or 'Cartoon Network' after all these companies were informed of the video on Youtube of our fans singing at the Emirates, they were apparently really impressed with the amount of childrens tv characters that our fans impersonated, especially Spongebob!
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I've read a few things..
HTC were mentioned, but I think that's just 2+2=5 with the Android app launch etc.
The General said on VT that a few companies were waiting to see our fate (relegation) before anything was signed.
And equally as important will be who our manager is...
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What has who our manager is got to do with being sponsor?
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What has who our manager is got to do with being sponsor?
A sponsorship is an association. It would be a very different organisation that would want to sponsor a team managed by say Sam Allardyce to one managed by Roberto Martinez, even if the clubs are very similar.
Any potential sponsor is interested in how the club conducts itself, what its plans are, etc, etc, and the manager is an integral part of that.
It's more than the club just flicking through a Yellow Pages and begging companies to throw money at us!
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
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I've read a few things..
HTC were mentioned, but I think that's just 2+2=5 with the Android app launch etc.
The General said on VT that a few companies were waiting to see our fate (relegation) before anything was signed.
And equally as important will be who our manager is...
Once Fat Sam takes over TGI Fridays could be the sponsor. Or how about Alan Curbishley, and Birmanum Midshires?
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Who the manager is has no bearing on any sponsership deal. Its the players who attract them. I heard Greggs was in the bag till Dunne lost a stone the last month. We're now in talks with a major drugs company providing we agree to bring Ireland back.
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
harry "i'm not a wheeler dealer" redknapp - dagenham motors
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JVC video recorders for Arsenal. So that Wenger could go back and see what he missed.
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Who the manager is has no bearing on any sponsership deal. Its the players who attract them. I heard Greggs was in the bag till Dunne lost a stone the last month. We're now in talks with a major drugs company providing we agree to bring Ireland back.
Of course it does. A manager such as Mourinho or Holloway whose every words are repeated over and over again on TV would have to be more attractive to a sponsor because every time they're on TV the sponsors logo is plastered all over the board behind them.
Wonga's logo is always on TV thanks to Holloway.
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Of course it does. A manager such as Mourinho or Holloway whose every words are repeated over and over again on TV would have to be more attractive to a sponsor because every time they're on TV the sponsors logo is plastered all over the board behind them.
Wonga's logo is always on TV thanks to Holloway.
I would imagine that Blackpool's sponsorship deal is probably the cheapest in the league.
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
Not so. The sponsors want maximum 'positive' publicity and they want people to associate their product with the club they sponsor. If that club's successful then the product is associated with success. If that club has a gaffe prone manager, or a manager that plays unattractive football, etc, etc then the product association has those connotations too.
Also, as DeKuip says, the profile of the manager can have an impact too.
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It makes you wonder why Flybe ever sponsored a team who never flew anywhere and whose fans had all had their passports taken off them.
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Don't forget Triton was such an apt sponsor for years. Perhaps Acrons was an insight into the size of MONs bollocks.
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
Not so. The sponsors want maximum 'positive' publicity and they want people to associate their product with the club they sponsor. If that club's successful then the product is associated with success. If that club has a gaffe prone manager, or a manager that plays unattractive football, etc, etc then the product association has those connotations too.
Also, as DeKuip says, the profile of the manager can have an impact too.
And what happens when the manager changes halfway through the sponsors contract?
Please, provide me an example of when the sponsor of a club was affected by who the Manager was.
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I would prefer a simple sponsor not like the shite that adorns our current kits.
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
A sponsorship deal is an investment! if the team plays poorly the less publicity the respective company would get! If you were going to invest in a company then you found out the ceo was leaving and mickey mouse was taking charge would you still throw your money at it?? I wouldn't!!
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
Not so. The sponsors want maximum 'positive' publicity and they want people to associate their product with the club they sponsor. If that club's successful then the product is associated with success. If that club has a gaffe prone manager, or a manager that plays unattractive football, etc, etc then the product association has those connotations too.
Also, as DeKuip says, the profile of the manager can have an impact too.
And what happens when the manager changes halfway through the sponsors contract?
Please, provide me an example of when the sponsor of a club was affected by who the Manager was.
I'm with VSM on this one. Unless we are about to appoint Mourinho then its irrelevant. Sponsorship deals usually last way longer than manager's contracts
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Of course a manager would be a consideration of a sponsor.
The amount of time a manager of a club spends speaking to the press at his weekly press confrence will definitely be considered for example. The likes of Redknapp, and O'Neill tend to get loads of coverage on SSN every friday, sitting in their training tops with the club sponsor across the front.
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
Not so. The sponsors want maximum 'positive' publicity and they want people to associate their product with the club they sponsor. If that club's successful then the product is associated with success. If that club has a gaffe prone manager, or a manager that plays unattractive football, etc, etc then the product association has those connotations too.
Also, as DeKuip says, the profile of the manager can have an impact too.
And what happens when the manager changes halfway through the sponsors contract?
Please, provide me an example of when the sponsor of a club was affected by who the Manager was.
I can't because it's not the only factor - stop looking at this so black and white.
It is an element of the overall decision to sponsor a club. Given we're currently in a state of flux in that department it makes it more difficult to sign a shirt sponsor up.
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A sponsorship deal is an investment! if the team plays poorly the less publicity the respective company would get! If you were going to invest in a company then you found out the ceo was leaving and mickey mouse was taking charge would you still throw your money at it?? I wouldn't!!
Not sure this is 100% the case....you could argue we have had nearly as much press for being bad and in trouble this season as we did the year before when finishing 6th
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Please give me an example when the manager of a football team directly influenced who the shirt sponsors were.
All the sponsors care about is maximum publicity for minimum price. They won't give a flying fuck if it's Gerard Houllier or Ian Huntley in the dug out.
Not so. The sponsors want maximum 'positive' publicity and they want people to associate their product with the club they sponsor. If that club's successful then the product is associated with success. If that club has a gaffe prone manager, or a manager that plays unattractive football, etc, etc then the product association has those connotations too.
Also, as DeKuip says, the profile of the manager can have an impact too.
And what happens when the manager changes halfway through the sponsors contract?
Please, provide me an example of when the sponsor of a club was affected by who the Manager was.
I can't because it's not the only factor - stop looking at this so black and white.
It is an element of the overall decision to sponsor a club. Given we're currently in a state of flux in that department it makes it more difficult to sign a shirt sponsor up.
Ok, give me a quote or proof that who the manager was had any single part in the decision by a sponsor to sponsor said club.
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Ok, give me a quote or proof that who the manager was had any single part in the decision by a sponsor to sponsor said club.
I dount any such direct evidence exists. However, there can be a simple supply and demand thing going on.
Give the job to Curbishley and we'll still get a pretty penny for our sponsorship by credit of being a PL side. Give it to Rijkaard and the profile of the club increases dramatically, thereby increasing the amount of firms wanting to sponsor us, thereby allowing us to up the price a bit.
If there's a direct example of a club being in negotiations at £Xm, changing the manager and then being able to get £Ym for it then I don't know of one. Suppose it's just a theory really, but one I think has at least some merit.
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Ok, give me a quote or proof that who the manager was had any single part in the decision by a sponsor to sponsor said club.
I dount any such direct evidence exists. However, there can be a simple supply and demand thing going on.
Give the job to Curbishley and we'll still get a pretty penny for our sponsorship by credit of being a PL side. Give it to Rijkaard and the profile of the club increases dramatically, thereby increasing the amount of firms wanting to sponsor us, thereby allowing us to up the price a bit.
If there's a direct example of a club being in negotiations at £Xm, changing the manager and then being able to get £Ym for it then I don't know of one. Suppose it's just a theory really, but one I think has at least some merit.
Explained much better than I could've! Thanks John.
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So by that theory, if we had Mourinho as manager we'd have a sponsor like Ferrari, but if we appointed Curbishley we'd have MG again?
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So by that theory, if we had Mourinho as manager we'd have a sponsor like Ferrari, but if we appointed Curbishley we'd have MG again?
No, but if we had Curbishley we definitely wouldn't have Ferrari. Stop looking at it so black and white.
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I'm not looking at it black and white - you are saying that who the manager is has some bearing on who we get as a sponsor - I am saying that it doesn't.
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If we won the treble managed by Curbishley we would have a much better sponsor than if we had been relegated with Mourinho.
Anyway, it is all academic as I'm sure the General has hinted at the fact a sponsor is already well sorted out.
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I'm not looking at it black and white - you are saying that who the manager is has some bearing on who we get as a sponsor - I am saying that it doesn't.
But you're trying to rationalise it by saying 'give me an example of when the manager has made the difference between this or that'.
What I'm saying is that the manager is one of the key considerations a sponsor has when deciding whether to throw millions of pounds at a football club and that us not knowing who ours will be in August will be making it very difficult for us to sign one up for the right amount of money.
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Surely the answer to the above couple of posts is yes it does and no it doesnt. Brands that sponsor teams are brands that want to be associated with that particular football team due to what it stands for and how successful the team is. Obviously with that means more air time and more chances to see your logo on tv. So if the manager has a certain way of wanting to run a football club that doesn't sit well with the sponsors they won't want to sponsor that club so willingly. But it's normally the club as a whole. At the same time if we had ferrari as our sponsor and Alan curbishley then became our manager, it might make ferrari a little nervous but if curbishley was to make us top 3 and a champions league team I don't think they be too upset.
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I'm not looking at it black and white - you are saying that who the manager is has some bearing on who we get as a sponsor - I am saying that it doesn't.
But you're trying to rationalise it by saying 'give me an example of when the manager has made the difference between this or that'.
What I'm saying is that the manager is one of the key considerations a sponsor has when deciding whether to throw millions of pounds at a football club and that us not knowing who ours will be in August will be making it very difficult for us to sign one up for the right amount of money.
And I'm saying that if who the manager is is one of the key considerations of who the sponsor is to give me an example.
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Don't forget Triton was such an apt sponsor for years. Perhaps Acrons was an insight into the size of MONs bollocks.
A company who produce shit showers sponsored a shower of shit.
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I don't think who a manager is has a direct impact on how much money a potential sponsor would be willing to give us.
However, in the highly unlikely event we appoint Mourinho tomorrow, there would be a buzz about the place, and any company would realise we meant business. We'd be more attractive to a potential sponsor as a result.
I don't think they'd particularly care except in such an extreme, and unlikely, circumstance.
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I'm not looking at it black and white - you are saying that who the manager is has some bearing on who we get as a sponsor - I am saying that it doesn't.
But you're trying to rationalise it by saying 'give me an example of when the manager has made the difference between this or that'.
What I'm saying is that the manager is one of the key considerations a sponsor has when deciding whether to throw millions of pounds at a football club and that us not knowing who ours will be in August will be making it very difficult for us to sign one up for the right amount of money.
And I'm saying that if who the manager is is one of the key considerations of who the sponsor is to give me an example.
And I'm saying you're not going to get one because no organisation is going to state that in public in case the manager changes.
Everyone else seems to be getting this. I'm not sure how else to try to explain it.
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Not sure I want to bring this debate up again but Swindon have just lost a sponsor because they disagree with the appointment of Di Canio (and his fascist associations). Fair play to GMB, although the free advertising they will have received from pulling out of the sponsorship is probably worth way more than the odd billboard at Swindon.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1389305/Sponsors-cut-ties-Swindon-Paolo-di-Canios-fascist-views.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
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Any idea of our new sponsor yet?
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I imagine this is part of the reason they kept Fulham ahead of us:
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5229/5746574522_69d14a0637.jpg)
The size of that sponsor.
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that could be seen from space!
awful... although they have dropped the pointless tagline...
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Blues have annouced 3 new major shirt sponsors for next season - an Oil company, a Fashion outlet and a international delivery company.
thier shirts will read TOTAL FCUK UPS
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AVFCOfficial [/size]Aston Villa FC[/size] [/font]
We will be announcing our new principal partner at 10.45pm this evening. Stay tuned to AVFC.co.uk. #avfc
From Twitter
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which begs the question why release it at 10.45pm ?
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The Genting Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genting_Group) according to VT
...no, me neither.
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http://twitpic.com/5fb34o
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As long as they pay the money I don't mind.
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Hmm, Kraft-Cadburys? To be announced in the USA at the same time?
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Being announced at 10:45 tonight:
AVFCOfficial Aston Villa FC
We will be announcing our new principal partner at 10.45pm this evening. Stay tuned to AVFC.co.uk. #avfc
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which begs the question why release it at 10.45pm ?
time zone in the homeland of an international sponsor?
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The Genting Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genting_Group) according to VT
...no, me neither.
Wouldn't make sense I don't think given the announcement. The announcement time suggests a North American based sponsor.
EDIT: I could be completely wrong and 10.45pm is a good time to go to a casino????
I have no idea
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maybe it is saic ( the parent company of MG)
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Genting are going to be building a casino and hotel complex at the NEC.
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I'm hoping against hope its Bovril and PF has a large jar draped in claret ready to unveil it...
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Is that the casino Pornodwarf wanted in Small Heath?
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Genting is owner of Circus Casinos, in the city centre and at Star City.
Would be typical of us right now to have the word 'Circus' on our shirts...
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Is that the casino Pornodwarf wanted in Small Heath?
It is under the brand Resorts World
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Genting are Malaysian - what's the time difference?
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Genting are Malaysian - what's the time difference?
7 hours ahead
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7-8 hours ahead, so around 5 am? Strange if so.
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Assuming they are paying decent bucks it would be nice to have a partner for more than a couple of years.
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They're certainly loaded looking at their turnover and assets.
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Is that the casino Pornodwarf wanted in Small Heath?
It is under the brand Resorts World
http://www.necgroup.co.uk/news/resortsworld.htm
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Annual revenue over $40bn......
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If it is Genting then they certainly will be loaded, not only looking at their turnover, but I've also seen people at Maxim's casino on the Hagley Road putting down over 20k at roulette tables, so they certainly pull in a lot of money, especially considering the number of casinos they have in London.
Hopefully this brings in a lot of money for the club - more than FXpro at least.
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Genting, sounds like a male prostitution company
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Genting, sounds like a male prostitution company
whatever helps sign players Arsey - right? And how would make that link by the way and I'm not even alluding to the fact that you're user name is Arsey ;)
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(http://www.gentingcasinos.co.uk/circus/gfx/brand_logo.gif)
This will kill the new shirt sales if true.
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is it time yet ?
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'Genting'....is George Michael involved with them ?
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It's 10:47pm. Why must the board continue to lie to us and treat us badly!?
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Genting it is...
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Amy idea how much?
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It is Genting
waiting for OS content to load
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(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/dotcomsimon/genting.jpg)
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Does this mean we can now start singing this again,, Theres a circus in the town"
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One in the eye for all that nonsense we've had spouted on here for four years about how Randy didn't want to deal with gambling companies.
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Life's just one big gamble!
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I presume junior replica kits will be plain then?
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One in the eye for all that nonsense we've had spouted on here for four years about how Randy didn't want to deal with gambling companies.
Tell me about it. From the top charitable PR of the Acorns deal to an on-line casino; foreign exchange 'gambling' company to physical casino company! What next - arms dealers? I suppose it's the sad reality of business, but Cadbury's or Jaguar/Land Rover they aint!
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One in the eye for all that nonsense we've had spouted on here for four years about how Randy didn't want to deal with gambling companies.
Tell me about it. From the top charitable PR of the Acorns deal to an on-line casino; foreign exchange 'gambling' company to physical casino company! What next - arms dealers? I suppose it's the sad reality of business, but Cadbury's or Jaguar/Land Rover they aint!
Nah.
How did Randy's family make their fortune? From credit cards, and at a company which is particularly predatory in pushing credit on people (if you have an MBNA card, you'll be used to them sending you books of cheques in the post).
If you have a problem with the ethics of gambling, then you're going to have to have a problem with the chairman full stop, I'm afraid.
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One in the eye for all that nonsense we've had spouted on here for four years about how Randy didn't want to deal with gambling companies.
Tell me about it. From the top charitable PR of the Acorns deal to an on-line casino; foreign exchange 'gambling' company to physical casino company! What next - arms dealers? I suppose it's the sad reality of business, but Cadbury's or Jaguar/Land Rover they aint!
...Ethical dealing in football to tapping up shite managers...
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Most corporations are shits. It's just that some corporations are betting at hiding their shittiness than others.
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Really good move by the board IMO. Massive global brand and exposure into the Asian market hopefully, whilst having local links too. If the planned casino goes ahead there will be 1000's of new jobs being created, very good to have our name associated with that.
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Aesthetically, it's kind of busy looking...reminds me of the two elephants guzzling booze through their trunks on Everton's shirts. And at least it's an all-white font. Hopefully they're throwing cash at us.
So after a short-lived deal with a company who makes money on currency fluctuations and now a gambling giant, our Acorns-emblazoned tops seem like a long time ago. The sad reality is we need to make as much money as we can if we're to have any hope of competing.
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One in the eye for all that nonsense we've had spouted on here for four years about how Randy didn't want to deal with gambling companies.
Tell me about it. From the top charitable PR of the Acorns deal to an on-line casino; foreign exchange 'gambling' company to physical casino company! What next - arms dealers? I suppose it's the sad reality of business, but Cadbury's or Jaguar/Land Rover they aint!
Nah.
How did Randy's family make their fortune? From credit cards, and at a company which is particularly predatory in pushing credit on people (if you have an MBNA card, you'll be used to them sending you books of cheques in the post).
If you have a problem with the ethics of gambling, then you're going to have to have a problem with the chairman full stop, I'm afraid.
My tongue was very firmly in my cheek Paulie....
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Really good move by the board IMO. Massive global brand and exposure into the Asian market hopefully, whilst having local links too. If the planned casino goes ahead there will be 1000's of new jobs being created, very good to have our name associated with that.
It's all about the money and thats the way it should be.
I don't really understand why people get so agitated about sponsors. So long as they pay us lots of money and their logo isn't a gigantic spunking cock, or a radish or something embarassing, who really cares?
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One in the eye for all that nonsense we've had spouted on here for four years about how Randy didn't want to deal with gambling companies.
Tell me about it. From the top charitable PR of the Acorns deal to an on-line casino; foreign exchange 'gambling' company to physical casino company! What next - arms dealers? I suppose it's the sad reality of business, but Cadbury's or Jaguar/Land Rover they aint!
Nah.
How did Randy's family make their fortune? From credit cards, and at a company which is particularly predatory in pushing credit on people (if you have an MBNA card, you'll be used to them sending you books of cheques in the post).
If you have a problem with the ethics of gambling, then you're going to have to have a problem with the chairman full stop, I'm afraid.
My tongue was very firmly in my cheek Paulie....
Ah, sorry.
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Meh.
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Really good move by the board IMO. Massive global brand and exposure into the Asian market hopefully, whilst having local links too. If the planned casino goes ahead there will be 1000's of new jobs being created, very good to have our name associated with that.
It's all about the money and thats the way it should be.
I don't really understand why people get so agitated about sponsors. So long as they pay us lots of money and their logo isn't a gigantic spunking cock, or a radish or something embarassing, who really cares?
To be fair Paulie I'd take a big spunking cock on my shirt for £40m over 3-4 years. For radishes I don't get out of bed for less than £60m!!
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Any news on the numbers yet, we've been a very poor relation when it comes to deals of late. Would be interesting to see if our CEO can get this moving in the right direction - surely must be a lot more than Forex or whatever they were called?
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good. We get a deal with a massive company and we'll still be very generous on the charity front with Acorns. Wins all round.
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(http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1737/astonvilla1112awaycopy.png)
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Any news on the numbers yet, we've been a very poor relation when it comes to deals of late. Would be interesting to see if our CEO can get this moving in the right direction - surely must be a lot more than Forex or whatever they were called?
Not just lately, weren't we always a low earner from sponsorship? As far as I can remember, that's why Acorns came about, no offers came in matching what he felt it was worth, so gave it to Acorns as opposed to giving it out on the cheap. Hopefully this has now changed.
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So long as they pay us lots of money and their logo isn't a gigantic spunking cock,
Could have been these:
(http://www.blokesnightin.com/funny/m.jpg)
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After all the 32Red complaints , now this ?
Listening to the fans, as shown last week is a thing of the past.
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After all the 32Red complaints , now this ?
Listening to the fans, as shown last week is a thing of the past.
I disagree Tro, the club do listen to us fans. They just choose to ignore us.
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After all the 32Red complaints , now this ?
Listening to the fans, as shown last week is a thing of the past.
Do we have to put the sponsors to the vote now then?
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So long as they pay us lots of money and their logo isn't a gigantic spunking cock,
Could have been these:
(http://www.blokesnightin.com/funny/m.jpg)
Do you think the first time they took a step back and looked at their new sign someone just said... "oh". Do you think anyone will notice... nah it will be fine. Great spot.
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After all the 32Red complaints , now this ?
Listening to the fans, as shown last week is a thing of the past.
Were there complaints? Why?
We want him to spend money, but we don't want him to make us more money? Also, I'm happy that Randy doesn't listen to the fans in regards to hiring and firing. Most of us know absolutely nothing.
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Short memories .
I am not passing comment on approval / disapproval, but when Randy took over , the Generals thread was full of anti 32Red complaints , from people who didn't want their kids in strips with Gambling as a logo on.
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I initially read it as a new verb, to Gent.
Maybe street slang that hookers will use in the year 2059.
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As 32Red were nothing to do with the current board they can hardly be criticised for the new sponsors.
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Same industry though. Same complaints will be made.
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After all the 32Red complaints , now this ?
Listening to the fans, as shown last week is a thing of the past.
Do we have to put the sponsors to the vote now then?
Yep, so it seems. Along with the Kit, Managers, Transfer Policies, Contracts, Players, Balti Pies and the Ticket Office...
Is it just me or have we become very "whiney" lately?
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Probably. We've finally reached the stage where some will automatically criticise everything the club does, because it was this board who did it and they can't do anything right.
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Yep, that sounds about right.
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The only thing that matters is how much they are paying us.
Anyone know?
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The only thing that matters is how much they are paying us.
Exactly.
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The moaning is really starting to get on my fucking tittays now. You cant read one page of a site without some gobshite crowing off about nothing at all.
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The moaning is really starting to get on my fucking tittays now. You cant read one page of a site without some gobshite crowing off about nothing at all.
Probably the board's fault. No, it is getting a bit much now.
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The only thing that matters is how much they are paying us.
Exactly.
enough said!!
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Oooh have we got new sponsors?
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Oooh have we got new sponsors?
Yes and we get a new away shirt to look at tomorrow.
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terrific - but I thought that was the light blue/white one with the checks. I'm getting confused - how many shirts do we have?
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I wouldn't be surprised if Randy decoded to sell Villa.
All people do is whinge and moan about everything.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Randy decoded to sell Villa.
All people do is whinge and moan about everything.
The whinging and moaning that Randy gets from us is probably nothing compared to what he gets from Browns fans
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Short memories .
I am not passing comment on approval / disapproval, but when Randy took over , the Generals thread was full of anti 32Red complaints , from people who didn't want their kids in strips with Gambling as a logo on.
Kids strips will be plain - the FA rules say that no shirt can have gambling logo's on them on under 18's
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My muslim mate will be on the blower later ranting away.
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Logo or no logo? (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2380538,00.html)
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Without a logo, always - looks far classier (unless its Acorns).
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I'll have a logo, else I'll always think there's something missing.
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Another vote here for No logo - the only thing i like to advertise is the fact its AVFC... didnt mind Acorns as it was for a great cause, but oh how i hated COWS!!! >:(
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No logo for me aswell.
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The design with the checks is beginning to grow on me - it looks good in the image stills on the OS, in action as it were. Still not convinced about the home shirt though, yet.
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The logo looks absolutely fine to me. Like the new shirt a lot. Happy days!
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Looks ok to me, as Mr Diggles said, the checks are growing on me
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Will get the new kit for my 2 year old. Notice it says no logo on youth kits as it's a gambling sponsor, in that case why don't they put the Acorns logo on the kids kits?
Would be a nice gesture and they've probably got loads left over from the previous kits
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I really lIke the away shirt, best we have had for a while. Looks nice with the claret collar and shorts. Logo looks good aswell atleast it is claret and not red like last years!
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We have developed our restaurants with the style of the casino. We have five acclaimed restaurant brands within our portfolio: Equations, 110 Restaurant, Chapter's Grill and Terrace II, all offering the best restaurant experience in the UK today.
From their website.
Given their mathematical ability I'm not sure whether it's a good thing to go or a bad thing! I wonder how much we got from them.
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That kit is absolutely immense. Best away shirt we've had in years.
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I like the in-action shots. Looks good.
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It's a nice shirt but rubbish sponsors. Ah well :)
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the picture with the top on it's own does it for me. That is a bloody nice away kit. Very simple really with the pattern not overwhelming. I assume the home when it comes out will be that way too. Simple Villa tops. The way it should be.
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Genting sounds like something that goes on in the loo's or up Cannock Chase. Like the kit though.
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http://twitpic.com/5fb34o
Bumping this post,
If this is the new home kit, then its not as bad as I thought when it was leaked a few weeks ago
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Genting sounds like something that goes on in the loo's or up Cannock Chase. Like the kit though.
Hey, just because we like our woodland activities over here in Cannock
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ok so Randys taken to gambling in the past couple of weeks ;)
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Very happy with the away shirt, quite tasteful, and suitably different. Not too bothered about the sponsor, although it would be nice to be associated with a strong international brand, with acceptable ethics etc. Also can't imagine it being very lucrative somehow, what with the deal being very late in the day, and having never heard of them before.
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I didn't like it before but it seems to have grown on me.
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I didn't like it before but it seems to have grown on me.
Saves having to buy it then.
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That kit is absolutely immense. Best away shirt we've had in years.
I think this was (with the acorns logo as a 3rd shirt the following season, even better)
(http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/0dc2d03fe217f8c83829496872af24a0/A/s/Aston-Villa-07-Away-Boys_1.jpg)
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I didn't like it before but it seems to have grown on me.
Saves having to buy it then.
It's a cracker!
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That kit is absolutely immense. Best away shirt we've had in years.
I think this was (with the acorns logo as a 3rd shirt the following season, even better)
(http://www.classicfootballshirts.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/0dc2d03fe217f8c83829496872af24a0/A/s/Aston-Villa-07-Away-Boys_1.jpg)
I've got that one with no sponsor on it at all. Probably the last non-retro Villa shirt i'll ever buy.
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I love the new one, and actually like the sponsor on the front, it looks quite a classy logo. It is a clever strategy to go for a Malaysian/ Asian partnership. I know it is not a reason to sign a player, but I am staggered more clubs are not trying to sign emerging talent from Asia as the commercial rights would make the club a mint.
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I love the new one, and actually like the sponsor on the front, it looks quite a classy logo. It is a clever strategy to go for a Malaysian/ Asian partnership. I know it is not a reason to sign a player, but I am staggered more clubs are not trying to sign emerging talent from Asia as the commercial rights would make the club a mint.
Not really to do with Genting or Malaysia as such, but I still find it remarkable that in a country as culturally diverse as Britain, hardly any clubs seem to have bought through any youth talent of Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi heritage.
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I really like it, and the sponsor dose'nt look cheap and tacky like they have in the past. A well done to the club.
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That kit is absolutely immense. Best away shirt we've had in years.
I liked the blue one from a few years back more if I'm honest.
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I really like it, and the sponsor dose'nt look cheap and tacky like they have in the past. A well done to the club.
Agree x 2.
Away kit is the best for ages .... although if I buy one next season, it'll be 'vintage' !!
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All shirts purchased from Villa stores at Villa Park and New Street in Birmingham, or online at Villa Direct, will include the logo of the club's new main sponsor Genting.
Shirts from external outlets such as JJB Sports and Sports Direct may not bear the Genting logo due to the sponsorship deal being finalised later than anticipated.
JJB or Sports Direct it is then! :)
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Genting sounds like something that goes on in a gay bar it worse than the cows one we had a few years ago think I'm going to get my shirt from jjb cheaper and with out the sponsor on !
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So you could have a shirt with Genting on the front and Bent on the back then?
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I love the new one, and actually like the sponsor on the front, it looks quite a classy logo. It is a clever strategy to go for a Malaysian/ Asian partnership. I know it is not a reason to sign a player, but I am staggered more clubs are not trying to sign emerging talent from Asia as the commercial rights would make the club a mint.
Not really to do with Genting or Malaysia as such, but I still find it remarkable that in a country as culturally diverse as Britain, hardly any clubs seem to have bought through any youth talent of Indian/Pakistani/Bangladeshi heritage.
I don't think it's for the lack of trying on the clubs part. I'm sure it would make a lot of sense to develop someone from that background. My parents are Indian and while I know a lot has changed culturally since I lived in the UK, there is still a stigma with regard to having your son playing football in those households. Other sports are more acceptable, but above all else is education and business, so it's never strongly encouraged. I'm quite sure that if an Indian or Pakistani kid stood out in a trial or as part of the youth system they'd make it like a kid from any other ethnic group. I just don't think the academies or youth systems are awash with kids from those communities so the chance of one coming through is very low. Sad really.
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Genting sounds like something that goes on in a gay bar it worse than the cows one we had a few years ago think I'm going to get my shirt from jjb cheaper and with out the sponsor on !
you should be more concerned that your mind went there. I'm sure the great majority of people won't relate it to that, especially with the word Casinos underneath.
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Yuk!
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So long as they pay us lots of money and their logo isn't a gigantic spunking cock,
Could have been these:
(http://www.blokesnightin.com/funny/m.jpg)
Do you think the first time they took a step back and looked at their new sign someone just said... "oh". Do you think anyone will notice... nah it will be fine. Great spot.
Pissed myself Dave!
The future's not bright, it's ginger and sweaty.
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When you see the size of the Genting operation and how huge they are in Asia, it makes you realise that potentially this is a great deal for them and us.
With the coverage the PL gets on TV out there, Genting appearing on a PL team shirt is a great coup for them.
I hope we are getting a tidy sum for this, because to me, it looks a brill partnership.
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Its worth £8 million per season apparently.
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£8 million seems pretty sweet.
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All to
Logo or no logo? (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2380538,00.html)
those photos look like they've had the logo 'shopped on.
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Sounds like a good deal and I like the new away shirt.
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I quite like it...
I don't see the problem with having a casino group as a sponsor??
When has it been 'unethical' to gamble??
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Its worth £8 million per season apparently.
A little bird tells me it could be incentivised, that is to say, if we do wel, maybe win a cup or something, we get more.
But the little bird is not 100% on that.
It is a good deal though. Lets hope it goes towards some way to rebuilding the squad.
Or making the public address system in the Holte end sound less like an 8 bit computer game.
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Its worth £8 million per season apparently.
A little bird tells me it could be incentivised, that is to say, if we do wel, maybe win a cup or something, we get more.
But the little bird is not 100% on that.
It is a good deal though. Lets hope it goes towards some way to rebuilding the squad.
Or making the public address system in the Holte end sound less like an 8 bit computer game.
I'd imagine most of these deals have clauses in them. I'm sure if we won the FA Cup for example, given the global exposure of that game and the credibility that would come with it, there would be a bonus for the club. Genting would all of a sudden be associated with a trophy something then can spin to their benefit.
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Genting sounds like something that goes on in a gay bar it worse than the cows one we had a few years ago think I'm going to get my shirt from jjb cheaper and with out the sponsor on !
Is that because you pronounce it 'yenting'? It's a hard g followed by an o-umlaut. So something like Gön-ting or Gœn-ting. In Bahasa Melayu it means the top of the hill; Genting Highlands is where Lim Goh Tong built his first casino. It is also where he is buried.
Genting/Resort World is a well known brand across Asia.
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£8m a season?!! F'kin 'ell...that's got to be comfortably the biggest deal we've ever had. Which suggests it's a fine coup or the sales/marketing dept hasn't been doing their job properly up to now (the Acorns years not withstanding).
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What were we getting previously with FX Pro and the recent others?
What ate the likes of spurs and everton getting?
Anyone know, so I can put it in context?
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What were we getting previously with FX Pro and the recent others?
What ate the likes of spurs and everton getting?
From memory Spurs signed two deals last summer, one was worth £20m for the PL shirt sponsorship and the other was for the shirts in their cup games, cant mind how much. From looking at the thread about new shirts, it appears that they seem to have ditched the sponsor after only a year though.
I'd imagine Everton will have a similar pull to us in terms of the amount firms will pay for sponsoring them.
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I might have missed something here but who will be our kit sponsor next year now that Dafabet are going to Sunderland?
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I have only heard rumours of an American Soft Drink....no idea if anything is in it.
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I have only heard rumours of an American Soft Drink....no idea if anything is in it.
I hope there is, otherwise they are ripping off their customers if they are just selling them water but describing it as something else.
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I think Dignitas would be appropriate at the moment.
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Indignitas, maybe.
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I have only heard rumours of an American Soft Drink....no idea if anything is in it.
Sounds like it could be Coke Zero.
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"Seven-up" would be scarily appropriate for when we play Chelsea, Arsenal, ManUre etc. next season!
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I'd like Cadbury.
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Anything but a betting company or loan ripoff company. Something ethical.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nae_Danger
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Anything but a betting company or loan ripoff company. Something ethical.
FIFA?
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I have only heard rumours of an American Soft Drink....no idea if anything is in it.
Did a few minutes of googling last night and found links to what I thought could be an American soft drink in "Fruity King"...turns out they are yet another gambling (mobile casino) company.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nae_Danger
Thats Scottish, its supposed to be American. Maybe Monster Energy? quite like their logo, despite hating energy drinks.
The Monster Yamaha bikes look the best in MotoGP with the black/green colour scheme.
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I was in the club shop in town today, the lad said he'd heard nothing and there was another year left with Macron, I know that he wouldn't say but he seemed certain
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I was in the club shop in town today, the lad said he'd heard nothing and there was another year left with Macron, I know that he wouldn't say but he seemed certain
Is there a reason that a guy working behind the till in the club shop would know any more than anybody else about who is designing the kit or sponsoring the club?
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I was in the club shop in town today, the lad said he'd heard nothing and there was another year left with Macron, I know that he wouldn't say but he seemed certain
Is there a reason that a guy working behind the till in the club shop would know any more than anybody else about who is designing the kit or sponsoring the club?
Probably because you don't know that he was just a till worker, plus they will be given plenty of info on new products well in advance as that's how retail works.
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I have only heard rumours of an American Soft Drink....no idea if anything is in it.
Did a few minutes of googling last night and found links to what I thought could be an American soft drink in "Fruity King"...turns out they are yet another gambling (mobile casino) company.
That rumour is at least 3 years old.
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I was in the club shop in town today, the lad said he'd heard nothing and there was another year left with Macron, I know that he wouldn't say but he seemed certain
Is there a reason that a guy working behind the till in the club shop would know any more than anybody else about who is designing the kit or sponsoring the club?
Probably because you don't know that he was just a till worker, plus they will be given plenty of info on new products well in advance as that's how retail works.
I'm just guessing that somebody that he referred to as 'the lad' probably wasn't a high ranking member of the marketing team.
And yes, maybe he was talking to somebody high up, but if (as his post suggested) he was just chatting to one of the floor or till staff then there's no reason that they would need potentially weeks in advance who is making the products that they are putting on the shelves or ringing through the checkout.
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You don't need to be a high ranking member of a marketing team. The store manager will more often than not show/mention it to you. Especially as the Villa shirts will be by far our biggest sellers every year. It's basic retail. And it could be an assistant manager as another example. They'll know what's due in and when.
I pop in the shop in town a lot so have got to know most of the staff pretty well and over the years most of them have dropped a bit of (minor) info on stuff and it's always been bang on.
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I was in the club shop in town today, the lad said he'd heard nothing and there was another year left with Macron, I know that he wouldn't say but he seemed certain
Is there a reason that a guy working behind the till in the club shop would know any more than anybody else about who is designing the kit or sponsoring the club?
Probably because you don't know that he was just a till worker, plus they will be given plenty of info on new products well in advance as that's how retail works.
I'm just guessing that somebody that he referred to as 'the lad' probably wasn't a high ranking member of the marketing team.
And yes, maybe he was talking to somebody high up, but if (as his post suggested) he was just chatting to one of the floor or till staff then there's no reason that they would need potentially weeks in advance who is making the products that they are putting on the shelves or ringing through the checkout.
He was a supervisor, Not saying your wrong, he seemed pretty clued up. I just called him a lad because he was younger than me and he didnt have a name badge that I saw ;)
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Seems we do have a new sponsor. Be interesting who and how much we get.
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This lot, apparently:
http://fxworld.trade/ (http://fxworld.trade/)
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This lot, apparently:
http://fxworld.trade/ (http://fxworld.trade/)
I've seen a home and away shirt with that logo on, but it was this season's shirts so i'm not sure.
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Anything but a betting company or loan ripoff company. Something ethical.
This lot, apparently:
http://fxworld.trade/ (http://fxworld.trade/)
How does currency speculation grab you?
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/1b_zpssva3c7fz.jpg)
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I hope not, FX Pro was better than that.
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FX World - are they the ones that have got involved with Eddie Hearne / Kell Brook?
If so, they are erm, underwhelming.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
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How long do we have Macron making the kit for? I've hated this season's kits.
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As soon as I read FX World I thought of Juarassic Park, that would be a brilliant sponsor, and safer than Alton Towers.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Love this quote thank you for summarising everything that is modern football.
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To the barricades comrades!
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
That's a bloody good read.
Thanks paulie.
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This is doing the rounds tonight. Too West Ham for me.
(http://s21.postimg.org/4lquvdq13/image.jpg)
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Quite brilliant.
Post of the millenium.
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This is doing the rounds tonight. Too West Ham for me.
(http://s21.postimg.org/4lquvdq13/image.jpg)
Ooh you tease, the link doesn't work.
OK it does now.
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This is doing the rounds tonight. Too West Ham for me.
(http://s21.postimg.org/4lquvdq13/image.jpg)
Ooh you tease, the link doesn't work.
OK it does now.
That is clearly done by that graphic designer chap who pops up every year with shirt mock ups at about this time.
See the drop shadow, for example.
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Incidentally, I think that'd be the best Macron shirt if it looked like that, but they'd put loads of fussy shit around the neck and make the shoulder logos too big and ruin it.
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It looks like the collar from the first Nike kit we had.
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I realise this post is not about the actual shirt right now but it is about the approach to Club sponsorship in the future.
Note to Tom Fox:
Go for a Greater Birmingham combined and conglomerate sponsor next time and change the name of the venue/business on the shirt every month. Who says it has to be the same name every month?
Month 1 being Acorns, sponsored by everybody.
Other months:
Jag
The Rep
Sarehole Mill ( Lord Of The Rings)
Symphony Hall
BullRing
Sutton Park
Custard Factory
NEC
And others added, like Birmingham Airport, Hippodrome, Alexandra, Library, Royal Ballet, Edgbaston, BMAG, Royal Warwickshire Regiment Of Fusiliers, Crescent, Electric Cinema, local and international Banks, the Arena, Seaworld, Robin, Safari Park, local Town Halls etc to fill the next ooooh, 10 years.
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I love how many experienced marketing executives/consultants come on to these new sponsor threads and give us their words of wisdom. It must be really easy to get a lucrative zillion dollar sponsorship deal by the looks of things.
For what its worth I think that we should have Sony as our new sponsor and they will be willing to pay us £100,000,000 per match. Just sort it out Tom!
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Brilliant.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Brilliant.
Most assuredly.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Brilliant.
Most assuredly.
Very good
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This is doing the rounds tonight. Too West Ham for me.
(http://s21.postimg.org/4lquvdq13/image.jpg)
Ooh you tease, the link doesn't work.
OK it does now.
That is clearly done by that graphic designer chap who pops up every year with shirt mock ups at about this time.
See the drop shadow, for example.
It's more of an "Outer Glow" than a "Drop Shadow" ;-)
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Anything but a betting company or loan ripoff company. Something ethical.
This lot, apparently:
http://fxworld.trade/ (http://fxworld.trade/)
How does currency speculation grab you?
and they're based in the tax haven of anguilla.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Brilliant.
Most assuredly.
Very good
Early contender for Post-of-the-Close-Season.
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Let's not be too quick to judge, perhaps they do special effects for films and television...
Still, look on the bright side.
Someone whose family made their fortune by the extreme marketing of debt and credit cards (and anyone with an MBNA card will know all about this) owns a club which is sponsored by a company which encourages currency speculation, the name of which will be on shirts made by 12 year olds in sweat shops, in a league the main sponsor of which was a notable contributor to the recent financial meltdown, covered on television by a company largely owned by someone whose newspapers are into hacking the phones of dead teenagers, playing in a sport governed by a body which currently is being revealed to have a moral legitimacy as laughable as that of ISIS, which is organising its showcase tournament to play in a rampantly homophobic totalitarian state in 2018, and one which, incredibly, is even less desirable in 2022, on account of them having paid most money for it, and is building the stadiums using slave labour who have an annoying habit of dying, but are easily deprived of the most basic human rights, the whole tournament to be sponsored by a collection of brewers, Russian oil companies whose owners stole their wealth from the Russian people, and credit card companies who have somehow managed to look the other way not only whilst all this shit goes on, but over the last several decades whilst FIFA were busy engaging in financial racketeering.
Given that, misgivings over the shirt sponsor are just the tip of the iceberg.
Brilliant.
Most assuredly.
Very good
Early contender for Post-of-the-Close-Season.
Well said that man!!
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Would be great for pharmaceutical manufacturers, Pfizer to sponsor us and change our name to.... Aston Viagra
At least we would stay up ;)
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BREAKING NEWS: We are delighted to announce @QuickBooksUK as our main club partner for the next two seasons.
Erm, didn't look great on last year's Baggies shirt.
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http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~4779781,00.html
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BREAKING NEWS: We are delighted to announce @QuickBooksUK as our main club partner for the next two seasons.
Erm, didn't look great on last year's Baggies shirt.
Previous Bitter's sponsor? - not exactly great provenance, is it?
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BREAKING NEWS: We are delighted to announce @QuickBooksUK as our main club partner for the next two seasons.
Erm, didn't look great on last year's Baggies shirt.
Previous Bitter's sponsor? - not exactly great provenance, is it?
For the sponsors we will be a major step up from the Tesco bags.
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I don't care who they are and what their name looks like on a shirt as long as the money's good.
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What is their logo like?
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the world's number one accounting software for small businesses
Not aiming very high then?
Isn't Quickbooks for people who are too daft to use spreadsheet functions?
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BREAKING NEWS: We are delighted to announce @QuickBooksUK as our main club partner for the next two seasons.
Erm, didn't look great on last year's Baggies shirt.
I actually thought that was a joke.
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Hopefully the logo is this and not that awful green version.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHDevreUQAEZtuP.jpg)
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Revenue last year was $4.5bn.
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What is their logo like?
It's a white QB in a green circle. They creatie accounting software so not a betting company so it will make some happy on that level. Not that it should matter.
Edit: I'm glad they didn't go with the green logo version but blimey that looks massively busy on the front of the kit.
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the world's number one accounting software for small businesses
Not aiming very high then?
Isn't Quickbooks for people who are too daft to use spreadsheet functions?
They probably called us and were like 'our one year deal has finished up the road can we be on your shirts now'
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What is their logo like?
not a betting company so it will make some happy on that level. Not that it should matter.
It matters to some people - my son was gutted that he couldn't have the same logo on his shirt as the Villa players for the last couple of years.
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What is their logo like?
not a betting company so it will make some happy on that level. Not that it should matter.
It matters to some people - my son was gutted that he couldn't have the same logo on his shirt as the Villa players for the last couple of years.
Its funny I love the kids shirt with the Acorns on
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What is their logo like?
not a betting company so it will make some happy on that level. Not that it should matter.
It matters to some people - my son was gutted that he couldn't have the same logo on his shirt as the Villa players for the last couple of years.
Its funny I love the kids shirt with the Acorns on
Same here, but kids want to look like the players
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I would have preferred the Baffin Island Escort Agency "Inuit QuickFucks".
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BREAKING NEWS: We are delighted to announce @QuickBooksUK as our main club partner for the next two seasons.
Erm, didn't look great on last year's Baggies shirt.
Previous Bitter's sponsor? - not exactly great provenance, is it?
For the sponsors we will be a major step up from the Tesco bags.
Their previous deal came a cropper when the sponsor realised that no-one connected with that club was familiar with the concept of "books."
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There's a caption competition here:
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2015/06/09/west-brom-close-to-2m-a-year-sponsorship/
Answers on a postcard.....
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Yuk.
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It's a good product, I can tell you that. And it's not credit cards, loan sharks or online gamblers so there's not much to moan about ethically.
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There's a caption competition here:
http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2015/06/09/west-brom-close-to-2m-a-year-sponsorship/
Answers on a postcard.....
"I wonder how the Villa are getting on."
"Oh well at least the Villa lost."
"How did this let get on against the Villa?"
"Who are the Villa playing today?"
etc etc
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I would have preferred the Baffin Island Escort Agency "Inuit QuickFucks".
My favourite post ever.
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Yuk.
What do you mean Yuk?
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At least it's not Sage I suppose!
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So presumably this means we'll be linked with:
Sean St Ledger
Anderson
Petr Cech
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At least it's not Sage I suppose!
Or SAP. Or to give it its full title, FUCKINGSAP.
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It will be interesting to see what they are paying as they were only giving the Bitters around £1.5m a year.
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
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Yuk.
What do you mean Yuk?
Misspelt yuck.
You can have a beautifully designed shirt but when you put an ugly sponsor on the front it naffs it all up.
I'm hoping one day Coca Cola or Apple cough up some dollar.....even Cadburys would of looked smart.
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What was the point of signing up for a two-year deal? New owners could probably have landed us something more lucrative next summer.
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
It does. Would be strange as well as at the SCG Charlie and Foxy were on about how important increasing commercial is to the club, and mentioned shirt deals etc.
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BREAKING NEWS: We are delighted to announce @QuickBooksUK as our main club partner for the next two seasons.
Erm, didn't look great on last year's Baggies shirt.
I first thought it was related to the book finder app thread.
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What was the point of signing up for a two-year deal? New owners could probably have landed us something more lucrative next summer.
What new owners?
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
It's probably the mail putting a negative spin on the deal *shock horror*. Were it to be true it would be a smaller deal than Hull City had last season, so either it's bullshit or this Wijeratna bloke is fucking cack at his job.
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
It's probably the mail putting a negative spin on the deal *shock horror*. Were it to be true it would be a smaller deal than Hull City had last season, so either it's bullshit or this Wijeratna bloke is fucking cack at his job.
Or our stock is very low having being mostly shit the last 5 years and finishing 17th a few weeks ago.
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
It's probably the mail putting a negative spin on the deal *shock horror*. Were it to be true it would be a smaller deal than Hull City had last season, so either it's bullshit or this Wijeratna bloke is fucking cack at his job.
Or our stock is very low having being mostly shit the last 5 years and finishing 17th a few weeks ago.
And Hull are a tiny place compared to here, sell less shirts, have less of a fan base, have less history and name and yo yo between divisions.
We are the top club in the countries second City, have been ever presents in the ''Premier League'' have an average attendance of 35,000 and according to Tom Fox are something like the 7th most watched team in the world? If taking all that in to account Hull City got a better deal than we did than I can see exactly why Spurs sacked off this Wijeratna bloke.
All assuming the mail is correct which is a massive assumption.
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
It's probably the mail putting a negative spin on the deal *shock horror*. Were it to be true it would be a smaller deal than Hull City had last season, so either it's bullshit or this Wijeratna bloke is fucking cack at his job.
Or our stock is very low having being mostly shit the last 5 years and finishing 17th a few weeks ago.
And Hull are a tiny place compared to here, sell less shirts, have less of a fan base, have less history and name and yo yo between divisions.
We are the top club in the countries second City, have been ever presents in the ''Premier League'' have an average attendance of 35,000 and according to Tom Fox are something like the 7th most watched team in the world? If taking all that in to account Hull City got a better deal than we did than I can see exactly why Spurs sacked off this Wijeratna bloke.
All assuming the mail is correct which is a massive assumption.
Fair point.
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What was the point of signing up for a two-year deal? New owners could probably have landed us something more lucrative next summer.
What new owners?
The exclusivity deal could be with the American consortium and as Intuit is an American organisation perhaps this is relevant. Of course, it's probably just a coincidence ;)
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What was the point of signing up for a two-year deal? New owners could probably have landed us something more lucrative next summer.
I don't think you can plan you financial strategy on the basis that someone might buy the club.
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Will the new sponsor's have to pay an 'activation fee'?
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
Huh?!
The two-year deal is thought to be worth in excess of £5m and is significantly improved on the previous arrangement with Dafabet.
West Brom were sponsored by the company last season in a deal that saw them net £1.5 million - but Villa's return will be much greater.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-announce-new-sponsor-9417906
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Mail says £3m for a two year deal which I assume means £1.5m pa. which just seems incredibly small to me.
Huh?!
The two-year deal is thought to be worth in excess of £5m and is significantly improved on the previous arrangement with Dafabet.
West Brom were sponsored by the company last season in a deal that saw them net £1.5 million - but Villa's return will be much greater.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-announce-new-sponsor-9417906
Sounds better. Is that more than £5m p/a? or over the 2 years?
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I would have preferred the Baffin Island Escort Agency "Inuit QuickFucks".
My favourite post ever.
They have 46 words for "spank me!" you know.
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Quickbooks is horrible software, awful to use and even worse than Sage if such a thing is possible.
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I would have preferred the Baffin Island Escort Agency "Inuit QuickFucks".
My favourite post ever.
They have 46 words for "spank me!" you know.
apparently its all down to the speed of the spanking and type of bat or paddle used
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
Can he play left back?
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I hope they give you that horrible fvcking mascot that has been an utter stain on match-days.
As mascots go it was absolutely horrendous.
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Hope they do a better job of branding on the shirts. You can't even see the logo on the Albion kit.
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Hope they do a better job of branding on the shirts. You can't even see the logo on the Albion kit.
A good thing if it's a shite logo!
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Fuck em up
Get intuit
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We need to be challenging for a European place next season, the polar opposite of the last few years
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We need to be challenging for a European place next season, the polar opposite of the last few years
Certainly don't want to be left out in the cold!
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I hope they give you that horrible fvcking mascot that has been an utter stain on match-days.
As mascots go it was absolutely horrendous.
Couldn't you lot afford a hat that fits? :P
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3S1jfKIEAEepNt.jpg)
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Couldn't you lot afford a hat that fits? :P
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3S1jfKIEAEepNt.jpg)
I can't wait to see that monstrosity faffing around in-front of the Holte End on match-days ;D
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With that hat it won't last long.
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I hope they give you that horrible fvcking mascot that has been an utter stain on match-days.
As mascots go it was absolutely horrendous.
Couldn't you lot afford a hat that fits? :P
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3S1jfKIEAEepNt.jpg)
I didn't know you could get green M&Ms.
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Hercules will probably try and shag it.
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Get Intuits out for the laaaads!
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I'm trying to think of the last sponsor that I'd actually heard of. Rover?
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I'm trying to think of the last sponsor that I'd actually heard of. Rover?
Acorns?
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How long before we wipe that smile of it's little green face?
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How long before we wipe that smile of it's little green face?
Probably about 4 minutes into the opening home game of the season.
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I'm trying to think of the last sponsor that I'd actually heard of. Rover?
Acorns?
Not even them, though they'd be the closest ones, assuming the shop in Boldmere predated the sponsorship.
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I imagine that it's come as something as a shock to the Villa finance department that there's such a thing as accounting software.
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
*winces*
that sounds awful
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
Can he play left back?
Up front. Lad used to play for Lye in the floodlights league.
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
Can he play left back?
Up front. Lad used to play for Lye in the floodlights league.
He's ours. Get in, Tim.
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Get Intuits out for the laaaads!
Fuck 'em up
Get Intuit
Fuck 'em up
Get Intuit
Repeat until bored
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
*winces*
that sounds awful
Ha...some of it was, between people trying to sell you every finance management-related products under the sun and the ''talks'' we were obliged to attend. I fell asleep at one of the afternoon ones about how retaining customers and upselling to them is more efficient than getting new ones. I was in the second row dozing but thankfully I wasn't the only one as the speaker mentioned something at the end about how most of us had missed his sage (geddit?) advice due to nodding-off.
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
*winces*
that sounds awful
Ha...some of it was, between people trying to sell you every finance management-related products under the sun and the ''talks'' we were obliged to attend. I fell asleep at one of the afternoon ones about how retaining customers and upselling to them is more efficient than getting new ones. I was in the second row dozing but thankfully I wasn't the only one as the speaker mentioned something at the end about how most of us had missed his sage (geddit?) advice due to nodding-off.
I thought my job was boring but have now changed my mind.
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I use Clearbooks every day, a similar program to Quickbooks. I had to attend Accountex exhibition a few weeks ago and the West Brom mascot was doing keepy-uppies at the Quickbooks stand.
*winces*
that sounds awful
Ha...some of it was, between people trying to sell you every finance management-related products under the sun and the ''talks'' we were obliged to attend. I fell asleep at one of the afternoon ones about how retaining customers and upselling to them is more efficient than getting new ones. I was in the second row dozing but thankfully I wasn't the only one as the speaker mentioned something at the end about how most of us had missed his sage (geddit?) advice due to nodding-off.
I thought my job was boring but have now changed my mind.
An afternoon kip sounds bosting
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I thought the Quickbooks sponsor was one of those firms that left kids books at schools, doctors surgerys etc in the hope that someone would buy them.
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Another sponsor I've never heard of , this is right up there with CDWS
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Nothing wrong with Quickbooks, used by tons of small businesses in the US including the chemical engineering firm I was formerly employed at. A household name there. Quit complaining already, sheesh we've got bigger fish to fry. It's better than crooked betting conglomerates with Asian characters postered on the front of the shirt.
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Another sponsor I've never heard of , this is right up there with CDWS
You might need to get out more - see Wickipedia entry
Intuit has more than US$4 billion in annual revenue and a market capitalization of more than US$10 billion.
Intuit has been ranked in Fortune's "Top 100 Best Companies to Work For" for the past several years.[11]
Intuit has been ranked in Fortune's "America's most admired software companies".[12]
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Another sponsor I've never heard of , this is right up there with CDWS
You might need to get out more - see Wickipedia entry
Intuit has more than US$4 billion in annual revenue and a market capitalization of more than US$10 billion.
Intuit has been ranked in Fortune's "Top 100 Best Companies to Work For" for the past several years.[11]
Intuit has been ranked in Fortune's "America's most admired software companies".[12]
Quite , don't sponsor us , buy us please !
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For the amount were being paid we may as well put KP on the front of our shirts .
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For the amount were being paid we may as well put KP on the front of our shirts .
I know Kevin Pietersen has an ego but that is going too far!
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Would he solve our problems at number 4?
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Would he solve our problems at number 4?
8,9,11, etc etc
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Quickbooks is horrible software, awful to use and even worse than Sage if such a thing is possible.
It is!
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I imagine that it's come as something as a shock to the Villa finance department that there's such a thing as accounting software.
Dusts off the old manual nominal ledger that Deadly passed on to Randy!
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You'd think for £1.5 m a year they'd pledge the space back to Acorns
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You'd think for £1.5 m a year they'd pledge the space back to Acorns
It's 5m isn't it? Baggies were only getting 1.5m from them.
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You'd think for £1.5 m a year they'd pledge the space back to Acorns
I'm sorry but thats not realistic. It was all very well in the early altruistic days of Lerners largesse but the hard facts are we now need every penny of income we can get now the subsidies from Lerner have stopped. I'm quite amused that they're willing to give us £1m a season more than the bitters down the road but my main concern is how much more it is than the Dafabet deal, thats the clincher. If its more the new commecial guy is doing his job.
When are some fans going to get the message that increasing our income/turnover and keeping wages in line with that at a sustainable level is the only way we are going to compete on the pitch moving forwards. FFP gives us no room for manoevure on spending levels as any new owner can't just throw £100m at it as you're only allowed I think £35m of losses in a 3 season period.
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£2.5m a season?
Is that someones educated guess or has that been confirmed? If so its pretty low compared to teams we would realistically compare us with isn't it, Everton, Spurs, Newcastle etc.
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This site: http://www.statista.com/statistics/254580/aston-villa-revenue-from-kit-sponsorship/ shows our previous Dafabet deal being worth 5m a year, and the Mail's article on our new sponsorship here http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/aston-villa-announce-new-sponsor-9417906 states that it is worth more than the Dafabet deal, so must be a minimum of 5m per year if they are correct.
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Ta.
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Apols if I've got that wrong, I thought it was £5m over 2 years rather than £5m per year. Tnaks for clarifying h87.
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I hope the Mail are correct, would be pretty pathetic if it was 2.5m a year when apparently West Ham get 6m a year and we previously got 5m.
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Unless I heard incorrectly at the Villa supporters trust meeting with Tom Fox he stated that we should be getting £10m per year for our
sponsorship.If that's the case this seems yet another piss poor amount from yet another relatively unknown company .
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Unless I heard incorrectly at the Villa supporters trust meeting with Tom Fox he stated that we should be getting £10m per year for our
sponsorship.If that's the case this seems yet another piss poor amount from yet another relatively unknown company .
QuickBooks- unknown? ::)
Maybe that why they want to buy some sponsorship then.
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Unless I heard incorrectly at the Villa supporters trust meeting with Tom Fox he stated that we should be getting £10m per year for our
sponsorship.If that's the case this seems yet another piss poor amount from yet another relatively unknown company .
We also should be a top ten side. Until things like us finishing there start to happen it's difficult to get the sponsorship we should be.
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They can easily afford to spend £10 million on us a season and not miss it.
Those nerds and their billions ah?