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Heroes & Villains => Heroes Discussion => Topic started by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on October 29, 2010, 11:40:10 AM
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Lets hope we can go one step further this time.
I quite fancy a trip to Ipswich.
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Anyone apart from Arsenal at home please
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Arse at home, get them out of the way. Blues in the semis and Man U in the final.
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Anyone at home really. Ideal scenario is Arsenal v Manew in the next round.
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Wigan at home.
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It won't be Small Heath or Ipswich. They're nailed on to be drawn together.
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Ipswich or West Ham at home. Definitely not Wigan given our home record against them since they came up.
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I want WBA home or away. I think we'll get SHA.
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Small Heath at home, to follow the result on Sunday (we hope).
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I've gone for Wigan away, simply so I can go. I could also go to Old Trafford, but on balance the DW would give us more of a chance of progressing...
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I've gone for Wigan away, simply so I can go. I could also go to Old Trafford, but on balance the DW would give us more of a chance of progressing...
Yep same for me, another Lancashire team - now working in Chorley so its almost a home game for me.
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Anyone except Small Heath and the Baggies - home or away as I'm on holiday all week. Oh and on the Wednesday night please as I'm going to a concert on the Tuesday!
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I would like Ipswich or Wigan at home then a semi-final against Small Heath.
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Wigan at home. They'll rest their first team and it'd be nice to finally beat the buggers at home.
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It won't be Small Heath or Ipswich. They're nailed on to be drawn together.
That's the second time you've said that. I don't understand.
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Ipswich home, Wigan in the semi, Baggies final = Silverware.
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Ipswich at Home.
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It won't be Small Heath or Ipswich. They're nailed on to be drawn together.
That's the second time you've said that. I don't understand.
Yeah come on Dave spill the beans.
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Smethwick away, bunch of tramps. It'd be nice to burst their bubble.
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Anyone at home but any away game will be bloody hard...
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West Ham at home, as for Wigan, anyone but them given our home record against them.
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It won't be Small Heath or Ipswich. They're nailed on to be drawn together.
That's the second time you've said that. I don't understand.
Yeah come on Dave spill the beans.
I think Dave means they will be drawn together because Blues have had some lucky draws so far i.e Rochdale, MK Dons and Brentford at home. With Ipswich being the lowest ranked team the Blues might luck out again and get them in the next round.
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Manure v arse would be a bonus
Tesco bags v BlueScum as well.....
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Manure v arse would be a bonus
Tesco bags v BlueScum as well.....
Yes, this - and then I don't care who we have.
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Ipswich.
Just because it would annoy him.
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It won't be Small Heath or Ipswich. They're nailed on to be drawn together.
That's the second time you've said that. I don't understand.
Yeah come on Dave spill the beans.
I think Dave means they will be drawn together because Blues have had some lucky draws so far i.e Rochdale, MK Dons and Brentford at home. With Ipswich being the lowest ranked team the Blues might luck out again and get them in the next round.
The draws fixed like they fix the scottish cup draws so celtic and rangers avoid each other till the final. Hes on the secret football league committee that does it.
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I think Dave mentioned on another thread somewhere that a few of the betting companies had suspended betting on the brum v ipswich fixture, suggesting that the draw is rigged.
Not sure why they'd choose that tie though as it's hardly a glamour fixture.
On that basis, based on what would be best for the Carling Cup (high gates and interest amongst the general public) I'd guess the draw will be as follows:
Arsenal v Man U
Baggies v Villa
Ipswich v Birmingham (a la above)
West Ham v Wigan (less distance for the BBC to travel and the only clubs left)
You heard it here first.
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Smirk:
Aberdeen v Celtic
Rangers v Motherwell
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Ipswich.
Just because it would annoy him.
There is a slight resemblance there, but the guy on on the left, has he eaten every single pie going ?
Jayz Al, you really do need to go on a diet man.
Wigan home will do for me.
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One of these days we'll be drawn against the Noses in a competition again. I thought it would be last year so I'll assume it'll be them again this year.
Home tie against the Hommers please.
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Bring on The Blues.
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Ipswich home, but got a horrible feeling that its gunna be the olbyun
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Wigan at home please.
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Anyone apart from Blues or WBA.
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Wigan at home please.
We have a very dodgy home record against wigan!
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Wigan at home please.
We have a very dodgy home record against wigan!
Unless it's in the League Cup, they are bottom of the football league and the African Pele plays for us.
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Wigan at home please.
We have a very dodgy home record against wigan!
They are not very good. They will bring 50 fans and not have the lower division cup final attitude.
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Man u at home- if we are going to beat them we will have more chance at home in the quarters- the further they go the stronger a team they put on the pitch- in the quarters they will have a few young players - arsenal and man u are the big threats to us , so let's put one of them out.
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I voted for Ipswich at home.
But I've this funny feeling they won't like the idea of having too much Midlands team in the semis so I guess the draw would be:
Arsenal v West Brom
Villa v Man Utd
West Ham v Birmingham
Ipswich v Wigan
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bet Villa and Man Ure Arsenal get home draws............. after all the bad publicity about gates they will do this, encourage cheapos and fill the grounds.
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Blues have to be eliminated!! We cannot play them at Wembley it would be a disaster
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Carnage would be a more appropriate word.
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Carnage maybe, but priceless as we lift the cup and they all sit crying on the pitch.
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Carnage maybe, but priceless as we lift the cup and they all sit crying on the pitch.
Yes. But I daren't imagine what it would be like if the result was the other way round.
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Carnage maybe, but priceless as we lift the cup and they all sit crying on the pitch.
Yes. But I daren't imagine what it would be like if the result was the other way round.
we would get over it,
might take a few generations but i'm sure we would given enough time
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fuck me, it's small heath!!
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West Midlands police will be shitting themselves now.
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Bloody hell.
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You're fucking joking
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would have preffered United away.
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Lovely lovely. Do them at their place before we go on to win it.
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midweek at the sty, it'll be hell
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Bring it on !
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Could the Police move the match to a weekend early kick-off if they wanted, or will the League not ballow it?
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That's gonna be carnage. Won't we be entitled to a bigger allocation of tickets for their cess pit too?
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We have avoided Man U in the cup but are away to Brummmmmmmm
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Last time we beat Small Heath in the League Cup we went on to win it. History has a habit of repeating itself.
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Could the Police move the match to a weekend early kick-off if they wanted, or will the League not ballow it?
Which free weekend did you have in mind?
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Any ideas what our allocation will be?
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That's gonna be carnage. Won't we be entitled to a bigger allocation of tickets for their cess pit too?
Hopefully we'll get all of that stand behind the goal. Unless West Midlands Police put a limit on tickets.
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Could the Police move the match to a weekend early kick-off if they wanted, or will the League not ballow it?
Which free weekend did you have in mind?
Christmas Day!
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Last time we beat Small Heath in the League Cup we went on to win it. History has a habit of repeating itself.
It is also true that the only time they've beaten us in the League Cup, they went on to win it. Let's hope that history doesn't have a habit of repeating itself...
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Bring it on !!
Let's get a hat-trick of wins over them.
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Could the Police move the match to a weekend early kick-off if they wanted, or will the League not ballow it?
Which free weekend did you have in mind?
Christmas Day!
Apart from we'd be playing Boxing Day.
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yeeeeeee haaaaaaa
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Gabby will be licking his lips as we speak ..........
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Could the Police move the match to a weekend early kick-off if they wanted, or will the League not ballow it?
Which free weekend did you have in mind?
I know what you mean but do the Police have the authority to swap a weekend Premier fixture to the midweek? Could this happen? Maybe Dave will know more on this subject.
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Could the Police move the match to a weekend early kick-off if they wanted, or will the League not ballow it?
Which free weekend did you have in mind?
Yes Yes Yes! This is what it's like to be city this is what it's like to be small! :) :) :)
Won't get changed, Citeh and Utd have played in the Lge cup midweek havent they?
I know what you mean but do the Police have the authority to swap a weekend Premier fixture to the midweek? Could this happen? Maybe Dave will know more on this subject.
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Jesus wept ! Could have done without that. The draw pretty much puts Man U & Arsenal in the semis as well.
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I think they will play this behind closed doors at Bodymoor ;-)
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Worse possible fixture, it will be carnage playing this as a night game, it will kicking off everywhere!
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Not happy, but fuck it - bring 'em on.
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I'm just praying we don't lose tomorrow, as they will be twice as bad with this game coming up!
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I think we will beat them at the sty i would have liked the game at Villa Park instead but it's not to be.
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I wonder how many tickets we’ll get? 4500, 6000? It would nice they gave us the opportunity to fill their ground for them for once by giving us the entire Railway End.
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The game must be a midweek fixture - no chance of it being moved to weekend - even west ham v millwall had to play midweek last year.
They could however ban away fans I guess if they are that worried about the game and safety.- highly unlikely though.
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Quarter-finals draw:
Arsenal v Wigan
Birmingham v Aston Villa
West Ham v Manchester United
Ipswich v West Brom
Ties to be played on the weeks commencing 29 November
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so, as we have what amounts to a bye into the next round,
who do we fancy for the Semi's ?
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either West Ham or Wigan will do :-\ ;)
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WMP love a chance to get really stuck into footballer supporters. I bet they're popping the champagne corks, counting the overtime and requesting novelty sized coshes as we speak.
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cant wait for that walk back down the hill to the rounabout after the game, in the dark, probably having won.
should be a lovely night, full of special suprises !
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cant wait for that walk back down the hill to the rounabout after the game, in the dark, probably having won.
should be a lovely night, full of special suprises !
<sarcasm tone>
Yeah, I think we're all really really really looking forward to it.
</sarcasm tone>
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WMP love a chance to get really stuck into footballer supporters. I bet they're popping the champagne corks, counting the overtime.
Ah the myth of overtime. As with this weekend it'll be cancelation of rest days to cover it.
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Ah the myth of overtime. As with this weekend it'll be cancelation of rest days to cover it.
I know, my post was tongue in cheek. However, I think football fans across the country would agree with me that the accolade of biggest tossers to ever police a football game lies with WMP. They'll be well up for it.
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Had this on Facebook:
Aston Villa FC - Official Villa draw Birmingham City in the quarter finals of the Carling Cup. The match is to be played at St Andrew's on the weekend of November 29.
Weekend?
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I'm sure they've just had a typo moment.
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Already had two of my mates text to say they won't be attending, for obvious reasons.
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Be interested to see the ticket prices.
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Super Stone Islandtastic! I can walk from here (possibly run back!). In order not to attract the cavemen I will need to buy a bottle of stink from Poundland, saw off my thumbs, wear a 1988 tracksuit top and randomley shout 'zooolooo'. Or I might just walk there.
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I suppose we had to get drawn against them in a cup competition eventually. Worked out quite nicely last time we played them in the League Cup.
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I suppose we had to get drawn against them in a cup competition eventually. Worked out quite nicely last time we played them in the League Cup.
Was that when Paul (the ******) Tait pushed Richo in to the Trinity and got sent off?
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Perfect!!!
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Good draw, if they weren't our 'neighbours' we'd be popping champagnge corks. Better than playing either United or Arsenal away.
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Would rather not play them at all and for them to get stuffed 5 or 6 nil by whoever!
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It's going to be stupid.
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villa should get 4200.
unless west midlands finest reduce it to 2800.
suppose there is the chance away fans get nothing, especially
if there is trouble tomorrow, don`t think this will happen though
as the OT sheets have probaley gone in already.
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villa should get 4200.
unless west midlands finest reduce it to 2800.
suppose there is the chance away fans get nothing, especially
if there is trouble tomorrow, don`t think this will happen though
as the OT sheets have probaley gone in already.
Can we just have the whole of the Gill Merric stand seeing as there are always a mass of empty seats in that stand?
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Bet that won't be a tenner - greedy robbing B***ards!
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that holds 6500 so can`t see that happening.
anyway our lot will be coming out of there armchairs and the woodwork
for this one.
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villa should get 4200.
unless west midlands finest reduce it to 2800.
suppose there is the chance away fans get nothing, especially
if there is trouble tomorrow, don`t think this will happen though
as the OT sheets have probaley gone in already.
Fantastic spelling of probably! Bravo!
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turves green boys school for you. :P
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The Sty at night.
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Odds are that it will be tues 30th live on sky with west ham v man u being televised live on the weds night.
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So much for the Ipswich v Blose conspiracy then.
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Lots and lots of trouble me thinks. Do the police have the authority to change the fixture to a weekend? Would have been a lot nicer at Villa Park. Iv got a feeling if we get through itll be baggies just to top it all off haha. If we win the cup then we've beat off Blosers in getting there and it will make it a whole lot sweeter!
UP THE VILLA!!
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Odds are that it will be tues 30th live on sky with west ham v man u being televised live on the weds night.
Will there be an inclination to field a stronger team rather than rotate ?
Our next game after is Liverpool away switched to the Monday night.
This means we could have almost a full week recovery.
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He has to play his strongest team, this is a quarter final v our local rivals and Wembley is in touching distance this is not the time to rotate anyway with the injuries we are picking up, players whose face doesnt seem to fit he is very limited in his rotation options
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By the way who are the 8 posters who've voted SINCE the draw?
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this is not a game of football, it is war, for them the bigest game ever :(
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He has to play his strongest team, this is a quarter final v our local rivals and Wembley is in touching distance this is not the time to rotate anyway with the injuries we are picking up, players whose face doesnt seem to fit he is very limited in his rotation options
he has to pick a team that is mentaly strong enough to cope with the most hostile atmosphere
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i dread to think the amount of hoolies out that night.
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i dread to think the amount of hoolies out that night.
all day drinking = carnage
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He has to play his strongest team, this is a quarter final v our local rivals and Wembley is in touching distance this is not the time to rotate anyway with the injuries we are picking up, players whose face doesnt seem to fit he is very limited in his rotation options
he has to pick a team that is mentaly strong enough to cope with the most hostile atmosphere
Agree. Hopefully Gabby will be back.
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Just a thought!
For the FA Cup, a small club with small support and a small ground are allowed to switch the tie (helps them make a bit of money), perhaps THEY might like to do that for the Carling Cup Quarter Final.
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ha ha.
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someone told me there is talk of moving this to 2pm in the afternoon. at least we will get the afternoon off work
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having been to all the recent away games at st Andrews, i'm getting fed up of the 'walk of death' at the end,
i've been knocked down outside the ground once, and chased around another time
i dont mind admiting that if there were coaches laid on from VP i would be tempted to get on one,
i'm getting on for 50 now, and just cant be arsed with all the shit that goes with a trip to there place
will still be there though, no matter what
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I was up for going to be honest, but after yesterday, seeing the amount of police, riot vans and so called fans who were just up for causing aggro, reminded me what a pain in the arse these games are and made me have second thoughts about whether it's worth the hassle.
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I was up for going to be honest, but after yesterday, seeing the amount of police, riot vans and so called fans who were just up for causing aggro, reminded me what a pain in the arse these games are and made me have second thoughts about whether it's worth the hassle.
Me too, and if that isn't bad enough you'd be spending Ł30-Ł45 to watch a shit game. Taking all that into consideration I'll still probably go.
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I have a gut feeling this fixture will be a nightmare for our support. Forget the game itself but the safety of Villa fans getting out afterwards will be very hard to police. No doubt that the nose trolls will leave their pubs/armchairs for this one as they have the cover of darkness to hide behind. They will be drooling at the prospect of this opportunity. Any fixture against them at their place is always a lot worse than games at Villa Park.
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Urgh, I just cannot imagine losing to them in the QF's, it truly is a sick feeling - we wouldn't hear the end of it. Still, we're the better team with better players... play an attacking formation with our best players and we should beat them, lets not get lured into there boring and ultra defensive tactics they always play against us.
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someone told me there is talk of moving this to 2pm in the afternoon. at least we will get the afternoon off work
Where has this come from..is there any official word on this ?
If it were true, regardless of how precautionary it may be, what a total embarrassment for the city of Birmingham as a whole.
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someone told me there is talk of moving this to 2pm in the afternoon. at least we will get the afternoon off work
Where has this come from..is there any official word on this ?
If it were true, regardless of how precautionary it may be, what a total embarrassment for the city of Birmingham as a whole.
someone told me they might not play the game at all, and just draw straws to see who goes through !
other alternatives could be we decide it on a game of shove Ha'penny, played on a nuetral site
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Someone told me that they're going to play it on the moon with a squadron of stealth fighters patrolling the upper reaches of the atmosphere in case any fans build their own space ships.
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Somebody told me they were playing it at a ground where no blues fans attend. It's called St Andrews.
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Cannot wait for this, our end will be rocking.
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Someone told me that they're going to play it on the moon with a squadron of stealth fighters patrolling the upper reaches of the atmosphere in case any fans build their own space ships.
Whoever told you that were talking nonsense, i don't believe it for a second.
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from OS
he Second City derby Carling Cup clash between Villa and Birmingham City has been confirmed to take place on Wednesday December 1.
The quarter-final tie will take place at St Andrew's and will kick-off at 7.45pm.
It will also be broadcast live on Sky Sports.
The last time Villa faced the Blues in the competition was in 1993-94 when Ron Atkinson's side won 2-0 over two legs in round two and went on to beat Manchester United 3-1 in the final.
Villa find themselves in the quarter-finals having seen off Blackburn and Burnley in the previous two rounds.
Emile Heskey and Ashley Young fired Gerard Houllier's men through against Rovers following a 3-1 win and it was powerful forward Heskey and winger Stewart Downing who did the damage last Wednesday night against the Clarets.
The opening derby clash of the season between the two sides finished 0-0 and this clash promises to be a similarily tight affair, with a place in the last four at stake.
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Should make for an interesting afternoon in the city if the pubs remain open.
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Wednesday at 7.45? Absolute dream for me, wouldn't have been able to make it if it was on a Tuesday.. Let's hope I can get a ticket.
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Ł35 a ticket. Cheaper than it has been for the past few years.
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What the allocation?
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From Blues site
Blues' fifth round Carling Cup tie against Aston Villa will take place at St. Andrew's on Wednesday 1 December with a 7.45pm kick off time.
The match has also been selected for live transmission by Sky Sports.
Both clubs have agreed on the following ticket prices for this fixture:-
Season ticket holders (Blues & Villa supporters): Ł25 adults / Ł12.50 concessions
Non-season ticket holders (before Matchday) : Ł30 adults / Ł15 concessions
Matchday prices: Ł35 adults / Ł20 concessions (both season & non season ticket holders)
The above prices are for all areas in the stadium, excluding VIP Hospitality.
Ticket selling arrangements will be confirmed on bcfc.com in due course.
Fair play to both clubs, although the cheaper price will no doubt attract even more chav idiots.
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Someone told me that they're going to play it on the moon with a squadron of stealth fighters patrolling the upper reaches of the atmosphere in case any fans build their own space ships.
Moon or St Andrews = no difference i.e No atmosphere ( er hem)
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I don't think Gold or Sullivan would have agreed to those prices, so fair play to all concerned.
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How many tickets do we have?
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Its not been settled yet. You're looking at 4500 though most likely.
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Its not been settled yet. You're looking at 4500 though most likely.
4,200 ive heard
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Its not been settled yet. You're looking at 4500 though most likely.
Games up Bluenose spy ;)
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It should be on TV too.
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Any idea when they'll go on sale?
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If we win i will be dining out on it for years to come..... ;)......plus a win against you as got to come sooner or later surely to feck....
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The first of two trips to St Andrews this season will take place on December 1st and will kick off at 7.45pm.
The game has been selected by Sky Sports and this seems to be reflected in the pricing for the game.
Both clubs have agreed to the following and will apply to all fans.
Season ticket holders
25 adults, Ł12.50 concessions
Non Season ticket holders (pre match)
30 adults, Ł15 concessions
Match day pricing
35 adults, Ł20 concessions (season and non season holder
Read more: http://www.astonvilla.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7506268#ixzz143aCtENb
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what does the Raliway End hold? does 4200 mean the whole of the lower tier?
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i think the railway holds 6000
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Match day prices, fuck me how stupid is that!
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i think the railway holds 6000
In total , or is that 6000 in the lower?
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From SHA messageboard:
We could sell 60,000 for this. Biggest game in years
;D ;D ;D
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what does the Raliway End hold? does 4200 mean the whole of the lower tier?
I think so.
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They wouldn't get 60,000 there if they gave the tickets away for free!
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"matchday prices" - does that mean pay at the gate?
Because if it does, that's unbelievably stupid.
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"matchday prices" - does that mean pay at the gate?
Because if it does, that's unbelievably stupid.
Considering we are talking about small heath, I'd class it more as believably stupid.
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ah, but wait until they build their new "iconic" stadium.
Nah, you're right... still 20K
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From SHA messageboard:
We could sell 60,000 for this. Biggest game in years
;D ;D ;D
it is actually thier biggest game ever which tells you everything you need to know
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I'd say this our 6th biggest game of 2010 behind various Cup Finals, Semi Finals, FA Cup Quarter finals etc. and it is their "biggest game in years."
Of course the gap is closing Mr Gardiner !
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If we win i will be dining out on it for years to come..... ;)......plus a win against you as got to come sooner or later surely to feck....
Dunno mate - ask Albion and Coventry fans !!
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If we win i will be dining out on it for years to come..... ;)......plus a win against you as got to come sooner or later surely to feck....
Dunno mate - ask Albion and Coventry fans !!
Not to mention Wolves fans
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I want tickets for this sooo bad. I can see a couple of days in the second city on the cards here, a win at the sty and loads of beer at Snobs afterwards. Come on.
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Any date for sale? I presume half STs count the same as normal ones?
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From SHA messageboard:
We could sell 60,000 for this. Biggest game in years
;D ;D ;D
:o
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Any date for sale? I presume half STs count the same as normal ones?
I wouldn't have thought so.I won't recieve mine til mid December and the first game is Spurz on boxing day.I would think full season tickets will quite rightly have priority
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Any date for sale? I presume half STs count the same as normal ones?
I wouldn't have thought so.I won't recieve mine til mid December and the first game is Spurz on boxing day.I would think full season tickets will quite rightly have priority
Thats a shame.
Got a sneeky feeling we may sneak this game 1-0. They will be ultra confident but with almost 5k of us there will be tremendous support for the lads.
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Sky have got it as listed as on Wed 1 Dec, KO 7.45pm, live on one of their channels. Saves running the gauntlet to the sky and paying your hard earned wedge to those
With webbed feet
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From SHA messageboard:
We could sell 60,000 for this. Biggest game in years
;D ;D ;D
:o
B*llox. They couldn't sell out 25K when we last played there.
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Blues have got their tickets going on sale today, and they are still advertising pay on the day tickets (subject to availability).I guess even they think they wont sell out then.
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Any date for sale? I presume half STs count the same as normal ones?
I want tickets for this sooo bad. I can see a couple of days in the second city on the cards here, a win at the sty and loads of beer at Snobs afterwards. Come on.
Snobs. :D
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Any date for sale? I presume half STs count the same as normal ones?
I want tickets for this sooo bad. I can see a couple of days in the second city on the cards here, a win at the sty and loads of beer at Snobs afterwards. Come on.
Snobs. :D
Good grief, is that dive still open?
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We've been given 3,800
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We've been given 3,800
Got a link? That's a crap allocation.
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We've been given 3,800
Got a link? That's a crap allocation.
It was sent via an e-mail (along with Ticket information) from the guy who runs the Lions Clubs.
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Guys, 1st post but going to start begging already. Looking for a reference for the scum away. Please help as only got aways this season!!
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Absolute disgrace from Villa.
How many of our core away following will have actually been to BOTH carling cup games this year??? I go to 10-15 away games a year and have a season ticket yet because I couldn't make it to the CC fixtures I have to miss out!
How can it be that someone who travels 1000+ miles following villa misses out on an away game yet someone who fancied a couple of cheap tickets for VP in half term week can snap up any remaining tickets.
Pathetic.
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Its a poor allocation is that.
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Absolute disgrace from Villa.
How many of our core away following will have actually been to BOTH carling cup games this year??? I go to 10-15 away games a year and have a season ticket yet because I couldn't make it to the CC fixtures I have to miss out!
How can it be that someone who travels 1000+ miles following villa misses out on an away game yet someone who fancied a couple of cheap tickets for VP in half term week can snap up any remaining tickets.
Pathetic.
Where does it say that you can't get a Blues ticket if you have'nt been to the Cup Games? You've got a season ticket, you should be ok.
edit. Sorry just read it on the OS. I agree, away followers should get priority.
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Absolute disgrace from Villa.
How many of our core away following will have actually been to BOTH carling cup games this year??? I go to 10-15 away games a year and have a season ticket yet because I couldn't make it to the CC fixtures I have to miss out!
How can it be that someone who travels 1000+ miles following villa misses out on an away game yet someone who fancied a couple of cheap tickets for VP in half term week can snap up any remaining tickets.
Pathetic.
Where does it say that you can't get a Blues ticket if you have'nt been to the Cup Games? You've got a season ticket, you should be ok.
edit. Sorry just read it on the OS. I agree, away followers should get priority.
Or you could argue that why should someone who hasn't been to a Cup game this season get a ticket before someone who has been to both?
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Absolute disgrace from Villa.
How many of our core away following will have actually been to BOTH carling cup games this year??? I go to 10-15 away games a year and have a season ticket yet because I couldn't make it to the CC fixtures I have to miss out!
How can it be that someone who travels 1000+ miles following villa misses out on an away game yet someone who fancied a couple of cheap tickets for VP in half term week can snap up any remaining tickets.
Pathetic.
Cant see what your problem is .
those that have been to most games get given priority.
season ticket + 5 aways + 2 Ccup games is every game(bar uefa cup) why should you get priority over them if youve missed games .
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But some people go away every week and couldn't make both carling cup home games and they could miss out.
As for the allocation like i just said in the other thread i hope it was the police who limited our allocation and not us agreeing with Blues to just accept 3800 tickets, they give teams 4200 in the league so we should have been entitled to at least that.
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But some people go away every week and couldn't make both carling cup home games and they could miss out.
As for the allocation like i just said in the other thread i hope it was the police who limited our allocation and not us agreeing with Blues to just accept 3800 tickets, they give teams 4200 in the league so we should have been entitled to at least that.
I doubt there is very few that go every week but didnt make the cup games.
They have done it as fair as they possibly can , the more games you've been to the better chance you have of getting one.
It will go down to season tickets + 2 CCup games
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As sister of top cat posted on the other thread, the club informed us of the criteria they would use at the start of the season.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2123830,00.html
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Absolute disgrace from Villa.
How many of our core away following will have actually been to BOTH carling cup games this year??? I go to 10-15 away games a year and have a season ticket yet because I couldn't make it to the CC fixtures I have to miss out!
How can it be that someone who travels 1000+ miles following villa misses out on an away game yet someone who fancied a couple of cheap tickets for VP in half term week can snap up any remaining tickets.
Pathetic.
Just a suggestion but as those two games we're so cheap, why didn't you just spend Ł20 and buy a ticket for each game, and not gone to the game. It may not be fair but if thats what you have to do then it's worth it for games like this, you may even have been able to sell them. You should be ok with what you have already. Also the club did announce their ticketing policy at the start of the season.
Good Luck.
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3800 is the maximum league allocation that Blues offer.
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If there's any more than 4000 Villa turning up, it would mean the home fans having to arrive at their own ground by coach, so that's probably the reasoning behind it.
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3800 is the maximum league allocation that Blues offer.
I could be wrong but that seems like the Lower section of the Railway as the whole thing holds 6000 and a) they don't want to give us the whole end and b) where would they put the extra 700 which would be (I think ) the 15%
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We haven#t got the whole lower tier. Blues are selling tickets in there too.
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If it's true we're only getting a pathetic 3,800 then the other option is going in with their lot. If by some miracle either side scores before the penalty shoot-out then it's just a case of sitting tight and laughing (or crying) inwardly. Done it before without a problem... and it's a damn sight easier and safer getting away afterwards too. Not so much fun admittedly but if you want to see the game sometimes sacrifices have to be made. I do stress that this is only an option if you can trust yourself to behave of course.
From Small Heath website...
General Sale
Tickets for this fixture will go on sale from 9am on Wednesday 3 November to both season ticket holders and non-season ticket holders. Season ticket holders will have until close of business on Wednesday 10 November to purchase their own season ticket seat(s) for this fixture, before they are released for general sale. Please note the Kop Ticket Office will be open until 8pm on Wednesday 3 and Wednesday 10 November. To purchase tickets, please call 0844 557 1875 option 2, visit the Kop Ticket Office at St. Andrew's or book online here (from Wednesday 3 November).
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
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If it's true we're only getting a pathetic 3,800 then the other option is going in with their lot. If by some miracle either side scores before the penalty shoot-out then it's just a case of sitting tight and laughing (or crying) inwardly. Done it before without a problem... and it's a damn sight easier and safer getting away afterwards too. Not so much fun admittedly but if you want to see the game sometimes sacrifices have to be made. I do stress that this is only an option if you can trust yourself to behave of course.
I think a few people may have to do this if need be! Myself included.
Just a suggestion but as those two games we're so cheap, why didn't you just spend Ł20 and buy a ticket for each game, and not gone to the game. It may not be fair but if thats what you have to do then it's worth it for games like this, you may even have been able to sell them. You should be ok with what you have already. Also the club did announce their ticketing policy at the start of the season.
Good Luck.
What makes you think that? At the minute i don't qualify until Nov 11th at which point it will be a free for all amongst all ST holders for any that are left.
How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
I still think we'll sell around 4,000 easliy... there are enough lads who go to the Villa who will want to go and sorry to say there will be a lot of young 16-18 year old kids who fancy this just to cause some trouble. Funnily enough Villa's sales policy will enable them to do this as it's giving them the chance of tickets before any regular away-goers who happened to miss the CC.
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If it's true we're only getting a pathetic 3,800 then the other option is going in with their lot. If by some miracle either side scores before the penalty shoot-out then it's just a case of sitting tight and laughing (or crying) inwardly. Done it before without a problem... and it's a damn sight easier and safer getting away afterwards too. Not so much fun admittedly but if you want to see the game sometimes sacrifices have to be made. I do stress that this is only an option if you can trust yourself to behave of course.
I think a few people may have to do this if need be! Myself included.
Just a suggestion but as those two games we're so cheap, why didn't you just spend Ł20 and buy a ticket for each game, and not gone to the game. It may not be fair but if thats what you have to do then it's worth it for games like this, you may even have been able to sell them. You should be ok with what you have already. Also the club did announce their ticketing policy at the start of the season.
Good Luck.
What makes you think that? At the minute i don't qualify until Nov 11th at which point it will be a free for all amongst all ST holders for any that are left.
How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
I still think we'll sell around 4,000 easliy... there are enough lads who go to the Villa who will want to go and sorry to say there will be a lot of young 16-18 year old kids who fancy this just to cause some trouble. Funnily enough Villa's sales policy will enable them to do this as it's giving them the chance of tickets before any regular away-goers who happened to miss the CC.
Whenever there's a big game there’s a panic about tickets, Prague, Wembley (my personal favourite H&V panic moments) but most people ended up happy, I don’t qualify until 12th Nov but I’ve not for a second thought I wont be able to get tickets for this. If you really want one you get, If I get a spare I’m giving it to you to prove a point. X
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our away tickets dont sell well for the normal league game there, yes we sell are allocation, but not quickly,
it has come down to anyone with a booking history the last few times,
i know this is a cup match, but with a few more tickets and the obvious security problem, i dont see it selling out to smartish,
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Just a suggestion but as those two games we're so cheap, why didn't you just spend Ł20 and buy a ticket for each game, and not gone to the game. It may not be fair but if thats what you have to do then it's worth it for games like this, you may even have been able to sell them. You should be ok with what you have already. Also the club did announce their ticketing policy at the start of the season.
Good Luck.
What makes you think that? At the minute i don't qualify until Nov 11th at which point it will be a free for all amongst all ST holders for any that are left.
Whenever there's a big game there’s a panic about tickets, Prague, Wembley (my personal favourite H&V panic moments) but most people ended up happy, I don’t qualify until 12th Nov but I’ve not for a second thought I wont be able to get tickets for this. If you really want one you get, If I get a spare I’m giving it to you to prove a point. X
Make that 2 spare's and you have a deal ;-)
I'm just going off what I've heard and read. A lot of my friends that rarely go away or have never once been to an away game are talking about going to this and there is a big interest from people I've spoken too. Some of these are entitled to buy before myself as they either are a ST holder with BOTH CC games, or crucially will know someone else who has been to both cc games.
I'd love to hear why the allocation is only 3,800.
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Absolute disgrace from Villa.
How many of our core away following will have actually been to BOTH carling cup games this year??? I go to 10-15 away games a year and have a season ticket yet because I couldn't make it to the CC fixtures I have to miss out!
How can it be that someone who travels 1000+ miles following villa misses out on an away game yet someone who fancied a couple of cheap tickets for VP in half term week can snap up any remaining tickets.
Pathetic.
These posts always make me laugh...We played two cup games and you couldn't go to either but now its the blues you wanna go and now its the villa who are a disgrace!! Its irrelevant how many games you attend away from home. Cup is different. You know that. Im not a season ticket holder but I feel I should get a ticket for the Blues over you!!
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
We could have sold thousands more than 3,800 if they went on general sale.
A lot of people would have been enticed by the promise of aggro.
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
We could have sold thousands more than 3,800 if they went on general sale.
A lot of people would have been enticed by the promise of aggro.
They don't need a ticket for that.
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Well i think i am stuffed as i got no season ticket or been to the cup games, TV for me. Spose its a tad safer here as long as i cook the wifes tea that is. Thought we were gonna get a larger number of tickets for it. Never mind.
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The amount makes me feel the Villa didn't ask for the full amount rather than Blues not offer it. The away team needs to request 15%if they want it. I don't know why the Police would intervine for the sake of an extra 700 tickets. But I'll await the Generals response before I moan about it further.
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Wednesday November 17: ALL SUPPORTERS who have attended AT LEAST one Carling Cup fixture in the 2010-2011 season*
Thursday November 18: Anyone who has bought a TAKE THAT ticket for next summer.
Friday November 19: On sale to supporters who have attended AT LEAST one away fixture inthe 2010-2011 season
Tuesday November 23: On sale to supporters with away booking history
General,
Please tell me this isn't true!
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You'd imagine that it would be easier to police if they gave us the whole end. It would also save them the embarassment of having all those empty seats on show on Sky.
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Wednesday November 17: ALL SUPPORTERS who have attended AT LEAST one Carling Cup fixture in the 2010-2011 season*
Thursday November 18: Anyone who has bought a TAKE THAT ticket for next summer.
Friday November 19: On sale to supporters who have attended AT LEAST one away fixture inthe 2010-2011 season
Tuesday November 23: On sale to supporters with away booking history
General,
Please tell me this isn't true!
That's funny. Nice one.
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The amount makes me feel the Villa didn't ask for the full amount rather than Blues not offer it. The away team needs to request 15%if they want it. I don't know why the Police would intervine for the sake of an extra 700 tickets. But I'll await the Generals response before I moan about it further.
It's probably downstairs segregation. The under-the-stand bit will be segregated along the same lines as the seats.
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Just spoke to my Blues mate, He got his ticket today. They have gone on general sale straight away! He went down and he brought a ticket no questions asked!! His mate also brought one online.
Basically they have no idea who is buying tickets. I think the whole things has been planned badly on their behalf. For all we know Known Hooligans are buying tickets and they probably are
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Thats a bit far fetched mate....i dont think villa loony fans would be buying tickets for our end,then want to kick it off....i know these wannabe tough guys aint the sharpest but they would not be that thick.......
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He's a Blues fan not a Villa fan. My point was anyone could be buying tickets for the game as your ticket office are not checking who they are!
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But they are on general sale today......open to anyone,why would they be checking them out?
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To buy a ticket for a game like this you should have a booking history with the club so as they know they aren't selling to just anyone! You would have had to a booking history if it were at Villa park
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Phil i aint got any away booking history with blues ive done 3 away games this season......,west brom,arsenal,and villa...its all word of mouth really.....plus got my ticket today right on the end of the kop next to the villa fans...the place is going to be rocking under the lights....lets show the whole country what a proper derby is.....
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To buy a ticket for a game like this you should have a booking history with the club so as they know they aren't selling to just anyone!
Blues want to sell this one out though.
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Phil i aint got any away booking history with blues ive done 3 away games this season......
Is that not an away booking history?
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Phil i aint got any away booking history with blues ive done 3 away games this season......
Is that not an away booking history?
No got my baggies and villa ticket at face value off a blues site....
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Phil i aint got any away booking history with blues ive done 3 away games this season......,west brom,arsenal,and villa...its all word of mouth really.....plus got my ticket today right on the end of the kop next to the villa fans...the place is going to be rocking under the lights....lets show the whole country what a proper derby is.....
That's the way it should be but it will be anything but that if the Blues don't try and stop known trouble makers getting in.
If you just just get tickets from anywhere how is that protecting the fans at the game.
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Phil i aint got any away booking history with blues ive done 3 away games this season......,west brom,arsenal,and villa...its all word of mouth really.....plus got my ticket today right on the end of the kop next to the villa fans...the place is going to be rocking under the lights....lets show the whole country what a proper derby is.....
That's the way it should be but it will be anything but that if the Blues don't try and stop known trouble makers getting in.
If you just just get tickets from anywhere how is that protecting the fans at the game.
Its the police that should be stopping trouble makers going to the game you cant blame the club if someone is going to play up,how can bcfc physically stop that....plus the police can only do so much......one way of stopping a lot trouble would be to ship all villa fans in on coaches...thats what they do in the cardiff v swansea games and it works......
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I don't suppose it's worth Blues doing what we do and sell to people with a booking history, they would'nt sell too many otherwise. Putting them on general sale is a bit risky though.
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Where is it on the OS ? Because I cant find it.
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Where is it on the OS ? Because I cant find it.
Found it, after having to search.
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/avfc/details/event.aspx?itemref=6048
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Where is it on the OS ? Because I cant find it.
Found it, after having to search.
https://www.eticketing.co.uk/avfc/details/event.aspx?itemref=6048
Thank you.
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But some people go away every week and couldn't make both carling cup home games and they could miss out.
*Devil's advocate*
Those that go away actually contribute nothing to Vila's coffers, those that went to both LC games at least contributed Ł20!
Just saying like.
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Seems a fair allocation system to me. Those at the top of the pile are those who've been to Carling Cup games and Away games.
This of course has nothing to do with the fact that I can get mine on Friday afternoon.
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Seems silly to virtually revolve it around two games. Somebody who has a season ticket and couldn't manage one of the Carling Cup games, may fail to get a ticket over somebody who has only been to the two cup games.
Although this doesn't surprise me going on some of the decisions the ticket office have made in the recent past.
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So to invert your point, why should somebody who has been to the first two cup games not get to go to the third cup game in favour of somebody who has been to neither?
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Seems a fair allocation system to me. Those at the top of the pile are those who've been to Carling Cup games and Away games.
This of course has nothing to do with the fact that I can get mine on Friday afternoon.
Quite agree.
This of course has nothing to do with the fact that we can get ours on Friday Morning. We have suffered for the privilege though!
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Somebody who has a season ticket and couldn't manage one of the Carling Cup games, may fail to get a ticket over somebody who has only been to the two cup games.
nobody who has only been to 2 carling cup games can not get a ticket before a season ticket holder ..
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Seems silly to virtually revolve it around two games. Somebody who has a season ticket and couldn't manage one of the Carling Cup games, may fail to get a ticket over somebody who has only been to the two cup games.
Although this doesn't surprise me going on some of the decisions the ticket office have made in the recent past.
This isn't true. Before it goes on general sale to season ticket holders on Nov 11th you have to have been to both CC games and be a season ticket holder. They could have maybe done a day on Nov 10th for ST holders with 1 game I admit.
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Seems a fair allocation system to me. Those at the top of the pile are those who've been to Carling Cup games and Away games.
This of course has nothing to do with the fact that I can get mine on Friday afternoon.
Quite agree.
This of course has nothing to do with the fact that we can get ours on Friday Morning. We have suffered for the privilege
though!
Hear Hear....!!
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Seems silly to virtually revolve it around two games. Somebody who has a season ticket and couldn't manage one of the Carling Cup games, may fail to get a ticket over somebody who has only been to the two cup games.
Although this doesn't surprise me going on some of the decisions the ticket office have made in the recent past.
It was made perfectly clear by the ticket office at the start of the season, that those attending previous cup games would get first dibs when it came to a cup game with limited allocation.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2123830,00.html
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Somebody who has a season ticket and couldn't manage one of the Carling Cup games, may fail to get a ticket over somebody who has only been to the two cup games.
Yes sorry, read it wrong, what a twat.
In fairness, I was told by someone else that this was the case and then mis-read it as well.
In reply to Dave, if this had of been the case, I disagree that somebody who has been away this season, has a season ticket and only managed one cup game should be put behind someone who's just managed the 2 cup games.
nobody who has only been to 2 carling cup games can not get a ticket before a season ticket holder ..
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just read the criteria - basically got no chance of getting a ticket............... aston social it is then
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I'll be able to get them a week on Thursday. Holding out hope that there'll be some left.
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i'l say again, why is everbody thinking we'l sell out quickly to STH, when we havent before on the last few occasions.
i've been there the last 3 times on a 'any booking history' ticket.
why is this going to be a whole lot bigger,
we have more tickets, and whatever people say its not going to be one for the faint hearted, so loads will be put of and watch it on TV, which is a wise move for many.
its a trip to Blues here, with the walk of death at the end, not a nice quater final at Pompey like last year,
i'm still very hopefull to get a ticket, and i am not a STH
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Nice try john e. I doubt they'll be any tickets left after midweek.
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The ticket policy is correct imo. Last season I busted a gut to get to the CC Final and missed out by one game. I could have easily gone to Stoke and/or Hull at home but decided to do neither as I thought I had better things to do. Turns out I would have easily picked up a Final ticket had I spent Ł15 going to either, ergo I only had myself to blame. This season I have attended bit CC games and every home game despite not having a season ticket so if that puts me near the top of the pile then thanks very much. You pays your money, you gets your due.
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A few points 'bout this game - none to do with tickets though. First of all my memories of Small Heath away (apologies for the wrong thread-ish) include a League game with the Villa in around 1988 with a whole lot of trouble during the game, and then in the mid-nineties seeing SHA lose again after a Cup game to the team from my current location. Which is why during this game I'll be wishing for a bit more atmosphere, as up here in midweek the pub will be quiet except for a few Man Ure and Bindippers fans. Ah well, that's what I get for leaving the second city... C'mon Villa!
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Nice try john e. I doubt they'll be any tickets left after midweek.
better get me begging bowl out in tickets then
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I wonder if any ticketless Villa will buy in the blues end? None I hope!
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
We could have sold thousands more than 3,800 if they went on general sale.
A lot of people would have been enticed by the promise of aggro.
I for one would not have been, and i don't think many others would have been either! I'm sick of going to that place and getting attacked/chased by the lunatics that claim to follow that scum club. Aston social for me, to get lashed with fellow Villa fans, and be able to celebrate knocking the scum out without any worries of being subjected to idiots trying to put me in hospital! UTV
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Nice try john e. I doubt they'll be any tickets left after midweek.
better get me begging bowl out in tickets then
Good luck in getting one anyway. In my experience, I've never failed to get a ticket for a game I really wanted to go to. There's always a way.
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
We could have sold thousands more than 3,800 if they went on general sale.
A lot of people would have been enticed by the promise of aggro.
I for one would not have been, and i don't think many others would have been either! I'm sick of going to that place and getting attacked/chased by the lunatics that claim to follow that scum club. Aston social for me, to get lashed with fellow Villa fans, and be able to celebrate knocking the scum out without any worries of being subjected to idiots trying to put me in hospital! UTV
There was talk that we were entitled under the regulations to 25% of the ground, or 7000 tickets. You wouldn't have had to worry about being chased.
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Decided that I would never go there again after the last time when I was continually spat at and had coins thrown at me. Left well before the end as it just wasn't worth it! (It was a good few years back now though).
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
We could have sold thousands more than 3,800 if they went on general sale.
A lot of people would have been enticed by the promise of aggro.
I for one would not have been, and i don't think many others would have been either! I'm sick of going to that place and getting attacked/chased by the lunatics that claim to follow that scum club. Aston social for me, to get lashed with fellow Villa fans, and be able to celebrate knocking the scum out without any worries of being subjected to idiots trying to put me in hospital! UTV
There was talk that we were entitled under the regulations to 25% of the ground, or 7000 tickets. You wouldn't have had to worry about being chased.
Have the police reduced the allocation then?
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No, the 'talk' was based upon an incorrect supposition (ie. the 25%). But it was causing a great deal of excitement amongst a certain type of supporter.
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No, the 'talk' was based upon an incorrect supposition (ie. the 25%). But it was causing a great deal of excitement amongst a certain type of supporter.
Absolutely, the away allocation for Cup games has been 15% for at least 10 years now.
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How many could we actually sell for this?
A lot of people will be put off by the threat of aggro.
We could have sold thousands more than 3,800 if they went on general sale.
A lot of people would have been enticed by the promise of aggro.
I for one would not have been, and i don't think many others would have been either! I'm sick of going to that place and getting attacked/chased by the lunatics that claim to follow that scum club. Aston social for me, to get lashed with fellow Villa fans, and be able to celebrate knocking the scum out without any worries of being subjected to idiots trying to put me in hospital! UTV
There was talk that we were entitled under the regulations to 25% of the ground, or 7000 tickets. You wouldn't have had to worry about being chased.
I've been there when we've had almost if not that many, and still got chased! I will give that scum hole a miss thankyou very much. >:(
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The General has said in his thread that the council reduced our allowance for persistant standing.
We were warned.
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How convenient.
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First post guys, so here goes, as I missed out on wembley I have bagged a friends ST for the game, which will be my first at the sty, but i have been to every recent home derby and away with villa a number of times over the years.
A number of guys I know won't ever go back to the sty and sum of them are big fella's.
If it's that bad, why haven't the club insisted on bussing us all in?
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Rather, LeeS
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First post guys, so here goes, as I missed out on wembley I have bagged a friends ST for the game, which will be my first at the sty, but i have been to every recent home derby and away with villa a number of times over the years.
A number of guys I know won't ever go back to the sty and sum of them are big fella's.
If it's that bad, why haven't the club insisted on bussing us all in?
Because it isn't that bad. It must be worse for them to come to our place, hence the multitude of coaches.
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First post guys, so here goes, as I missed out on wembley I have bagged a friends ST for the game, which will be my first at the sty, but i have been to every recent home derby and away with villa a number of times over the years.
A number of guys I know won't ever go back to the sty and sum of them are big fella's.
Big fella's what? Blouses by the sound of it.
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Deluded first post on SHA (http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,323669)
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That's what surprises me to be honest I have known sum of these guys for long time and they r pretty handy.
What wud u suggest on Gettin to the sty?
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That's what surprises me to be honest I have known sum of these guys for long time and they r pretty handy.
What wud u suggest on Gettin to the sty?
*NOSE ALERT!!
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That's what surprises me to be honest I have known sum of these guys for long time and they r pretty handy.
What wud u suggest on Gettin to the sty?
Well I'm from Chelmsley, so the 97 probably.
If I was you though I'd stay at home with my imaginary friends.
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Like the tanks I am sure I can c a villa flag at the back?
I tell u now you've got more chance of me been a paid up member of the Taliban than ever being a blue nose.
I appreciate it's my first posts but as my mates wud tell you. I have already told my kids I wud rather them be puffs than ever supporting that bunch of w*****s!
I am villa till I die.
Thanks for makin a new member of the forum feel so welcome...
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Like the tanks I am sure I can c a villa flag at the back?
I tell u now you've got more chance of me been a paid up member of the Taliban than ever being a blue nose.
I appreciate it's my first posts but as my mates wud tell you. I have already told my kids I wud rather them be puffs than ever supporting that bunch of w*****s!
I am villa till I die.
Thanks for makin a new member of the forum feel so welcome...
trying to hard ;)
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If I was any good with computers I would have changed the flags to villa ones but I will openly admit I'm not.
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Deluded first post on SHA (http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,323669)
Followed by quite a lot of sense, surprisingly.
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Deluded first post on SHA (http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,323669)
Followed by quite a lot of sense, surprisingly.
I was thinking the same although after 4/5 years of PL football and relatively poor crowds, even they cant still be clinging on to the '10k more than the Vile every week' myth.
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http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/11/04/birmingham-council-what-a-disgrace-they-cut-our-allocation-for-the-blues-cup-game-avfc/?
Interesting article.
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http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/11/04/birmingham-council-what-a-disgrace-they-cut-our-allocation-for-the-blues-cup-game-avfc/?
Interesting article.
Is teh writer complaining on there about council hypocrisy in not cutting Blues allocation teh same one who last week was complaining about Blues allocation being cut? Mercy me, I do believe it is.
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Brum council are wankers. They allow 4200 Liverpool, Man Utd etc fans at the sty yet cut our tickets for standing? Every single one of our 3800 fans will stand all game so whats the difference between 3800 of us standing to 4200 of us doing it?
Blues' tickets have been on general sale to anyone aswell, very strange/silly decision as anyone could have tickets in any area of their ground.
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He’s also wrong about a few things, one of them being that Blues aren’t selling the tickets because they are using the 6th and 7th blocks. We’ve got the league allocation which is 3800 and not 4200.
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He also appears to be wrong about the Council not cutting SHAs allocation at VP, they seem to be saying that theirs was also cut by 400 to 2400 at VP for the last few years.
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He also appears to be wrong about the Council not cutting SHAs allocation at VP, they seem to be saying that theirs was also cut by 400 to 2400 at VP for the last few years.
I think it has been the past few times, as have a few other clubs tickets, Man United and Liverpool being two. No doubt this decision saved thousands of lives and prevented countless injuries.
You’d have more respect for their position if they didn’t lie and waffle on about nonsensical ideas such as maintaining health and safety, and instead said it’s the law folks, our hands are tied.
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http://astonvilla-views.com/2010/11/04/birmingham-council-what-a-disgrace-they-cut-our-allocation-for-the-blues-cup-game-avfc/?
Interesting article.
Is teh writer complaining on there about council hypocrisy in not cutting Blues allocation teh same one who last week was complaining about Blues allocation being cut? Mercy me, I do believe it is.
"Yes I complained last season it was wrong by them to do that and the hypocrisy is this season as I did not see their allocation cut at VP on Sunday or any Blues reports that it was"
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Deluded first post on SHA (http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,323669)
Followed by quite a lot of sense, surprisingly.
I thought that as well, although I will admit to laughing out loud to this as it just struck me as very very funny.
"i think it was the leyland daft where we took the massive amount. 54k in our end and a fair few in the tranmere end too.
the next home game we had 9k there against notts county (i think)"
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As for those travelling to the sty, aren't we overdue free travel to an away in the League Cup? Pull your finger out Randy! *wink*
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I wouldn't be surprised aswell if the police didn't have something to do with it, a quiet word in the ear of the council and they come up with the persistent standing line rather than 'we'd rather have 3800 of them to police than 4500'. As i said Brum council let all the other standing away fans, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs etc 4200 tickets at Blues in the league.
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I wouldn't be surprised aswell if the police didn't have something to do with it, a quiet word in the ear of the council and they come up with the persistent standing line rather than 'we'd rather have 3800 of them to police than 4500'. As i said Brum council let all the other standing away fans, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs etc 4200 tickets at Blues in the league.
I dont agree with the decision to cut the allocation but the council could hardly cut theirs at VP and then not do the same for us could they, both the SHA supporting council tax payers from within the borders would have been up in arms.
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Brum council are wankers. They allow 4200 Liverpool, Man Utd etc fans at the sty yet cut our tickets for standing? Every single one of our 3800 fans will stand all game so whats the difference between 3800 of us standing to 4200 of us doing it?
Blues' tickets have been on general sale to anyone aswell, very strange/silly decision as anyone could have tickets in any area of their ground.
Are you happy that because of the persistent standing of you and others, 400 of our supporters will be unable to go to this game?
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Brum council are wankers. They allow 4200 Liverpool, Man Utd etc fans at the sty yet cut our tickets for standing? Every single one of our 3800 fans will stand all game so whats the difference between 3800 of us standing to 4200 of us doing it?
Blues' tickets have been on general sale to anyone aswell, very strange/silly decision as anyone could have tickets in any area of their ground.
Are you happy that because of the persistent standing of you and others, 400 of our supporters will be unable to go to this game?
Haha so it's my fault personally now is it? Our away fans stand everywhere we go, it's a given, and all 3800 fans at the Sty will stand, thats not going to change but i'm willing to take the blame if you want.
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Deluded first post on SHA (http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,323669)
Followed by quite a lot of sense, surprisingly.
I was thinking the same although after 4/5 years of PL football and relatively poor crowds, even they cant still be clinging on to the '10k more than the Vile every week' myth.
I must admit that most of that thread did suprise me.
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Brum council are wankers. They allow 4200 Liverpool, Man Utd etc fans at the sty yet cut our tickets for standing? Every single one of our 3800 fans will stand all game so whats the difference between 3800 of us standing to 4200 of us doing it?
Blues' tickets have been on general sale to anyone aswell, very strange/silly decision as anyone could have tickets in any area of their ground.
Are you happy that because of the persistent standing of you and others, 400 of our supporters will be unable to go to this game?
A bit unfair Dave, rightly or wrongly, everyone stands at away games. It's just one of those things. The last time i think i sat down at an away game was Norwich away under O'Dreary. That was because our stand was on the side of the pitch.
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A bit unfair Dave, rightly or wrongly, everyone stands at away games. It's just one of those things. The last time i think i sat down at an away game was Norwich away under O'Dreary. That was because our stand was on the side of the pitch.
One of those things it might be, but this is the downside of it. You break the rules, you pay the price.
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blues fan here ,,our allocation was cut again for last sunday ...but i think its more to do with the old bill than the councill since when have thay got involved with football matters in the ground ive never heard of it in 35 years of going to football matches ,,,,and man utd have there cut at middsboro every season and its known fact its the police that made the judgment to cut it ,,,not boro councill ,,,and man utd got warned before thay cut there allocation if thay did it again it would be cut ,,thay stood up so thay cut it by half ,,,blues had no warning about the threat of cutting or allocation at all ....and i dare say either was villa ? so whys it happend as i find it unfair
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A bit unfair Dave, rightly or wrongly, everyone stands at away games. It's just one of those things. The last time i think i sat down at an away game was Norwich away under O'Dreary. That was because our stand was on the side of the pitch.
One of those things it might be, but this is the downside of it. You break the rules, you pay the price.
It'll never go away though will it? Can you imagine our lot sitting down in the away end at Blues in a few weeks time? I'll be standing up at Fulham no doubt on Saturday. Are the council just cutting the allocation because they can? Other than ban away fans completely, it's a fight they're not going to win surely?
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blues fan here ,,our allocation was cut again for last sunday ...but i think its more to do with the old bill than the councill since when have thay got involved with football matters in the ground ive never heard of it in 35 years of going to football matches ,,,,
Local council licence all football grounds, including the capacity of all areas therein.
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It'll never go away though will it? Can you imagine our lot sitting down in the away end at Blues in a few weeks time? I'll be standing up at Fulham no doubt on Saturday. Are the council just cutting the allocation because they can? Other than ban away fans completely, it's a fight they're not going to win surely?
They have the rules on their side, so they can do what they want. Maybe if the stand up sit down, or whatever they're called, lot weren't so arsey - as we've seen whenever they put their point on here - the problem miught have been solved by now.
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do villa sit down at west brom....do you sit down at wolves? i bet the answers no to both ,,,,so why cut both teams allocation ? its not like there isnt trouble when wolves come to brum and visa versa
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do villa sit down at west brom....do you sit down at wolves? i bet the answers no to both ,,,,so why cut both teams allocation ? its not like there isnt trouble when wolves come to brum and visa versa
We don't sit down anywhere, it’s just a case that some councils see it as an issue while others don't. The health and safety argument is a complete nonsense, but as has been said, they have the rules on their side so it doesn’t matter.
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do villa sit down at west brom....do you sit down at wolves? i bet the answers no to both ,,,,so why cut both teams allocation ? its not like there isnt trouble when wolves come to brum and visa versa
We don't sit down anywhere, it’s just a case that some councils see it as an issue while others don't. The health and safety argument is a complete nonsense, but as has been said, they have the rules on their side so it doesn’t matter.
Which is what i hinted to Dave earlier. Are they just cutting allocations because they have the power to? Celebrating a goal is more of an health and safety issue than standing up.
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That’s the point that makes their arguments redundant from a logical position. Standing still on some concrete is no more hazardous a past time as sitting down on a bit of plastic. When you score, the result is the same, you jump up and potentially move about.
From a legal point of view, there’s no argument. What makes Birmingham City Council different to the local authorities that Old Trafford or Anfield are in is unknown.
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Unfortunately, there isn't a safety committee or government that will take the risk of Another Hillsborough. And yes, I know that wasn't down to terracing.
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D Boy, couldnt edit your photo, but thought if the Cov road got a bit snarled up we cud always go up the canal LOL... 8)
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I'd always thought Sky and Money would be the death of me going to football not some jobsworth Health and Safety rep from the local council.
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Canal! That gives me an idea but we'll need VSM to navigate round all the trolleys.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45380000/jpg/_45380757_submarine_512.jpg)
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You have no choice at away games other than to stand - how can you watch the game sitting down when you've got people standing up infront of you?
Besides, it doesn't matter if they stupid council/police cut our allocation, atleast we'll be able to sell-out our allocation as usual unlike small heath who had lots of empty claret seats in the Upper Doug Ellis last sunday despite having their allocation cut. What a joke.
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I can't imagine many Albion fans sit down at Wolves, or that that fixture passes off without incident, yet Wolves fans were unhappily ousted from seson ticket seats to give Albion a full cup allocation a couple of years back.
I remember Wolves fans who were moved being compensated with a free "pie and a pint", and the Albion fans taunting them with this throughout the game. Surely this situation added a fair potential for trouble? It was done though because the rules say 15%, and Wolves were told they couldn't get out of it.
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do people honestly not think this is down to the police, night game at the sty, nightmare for the police?
i personally think the council and police were in cahoots and gave us the minimum they could get away with, with a big net taking the rest of the seats!
15% of their capacity isnt 3,800 is it, isnt it 4,200??
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Just got my ticket. I'm not really looking forward to it - I'm worrried about our ability to beat them, the possibility of crowd trouble and the problem of finding a safe parking spot. But I'd rather be there than watch it on tv.
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You have no choice at away games other than to stand - how can you watch the game sitting down when you've got people standing up infront of you?
Besides, it doesn't matter if they stupid council/police cut our allocation, atleast we'll be able to sell-out our allocation as usual unlike small heath who had lots of empty claret seats in the Upper Doug Ellis last sunday despite having their allocation cut. What a joke.
They actually sold their allocation for last sunday, they still had a section with 2800 seats but only had 2400 tickets. Hence 400 empty seats.
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Just got my ticket. I'm not really looking forward to it - I'm worrried about our ability to beat them, the possibility of crowd trouble and the problem of finding a safe parking spot. But I'd rather be there than watch it on tv.
Jon got ours first thing. Really not looking forward to this game at all. It's the possibility of trouble that worries me.
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Can all those people who have tickets and don't want to go please PM me. I will happily take them off your hands.
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Jon got ours first thing. Really not looking forward to this game at all. It's the possibility guarantee of trouble that worries me.
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Anyone with a season ticket but isn't going please can you let me know! Desperate to go but would have to wait until the week after and i doubt there will be tickets left then. Cheers
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Every single one of our 3800 fans will stand all game so whats the difference between 3800 of us standing to 4200 of us doing it?
400. Come on, it's simple maths! ;)
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Anyone with a season ticket but isn't going please can you let me know! Desperate to go but would have to wait until the week after and i doubt there will be tickets left then. Cheers
Yeah give some random bloke with 3 posts your season ticket reference, like that gonna happen
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Jon got ours first thing. Really not looking forward to this game at all. It's the possibility guarantee of trouble that worries me.
Well amended usav. I really am worried about this.
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Canal! That gives me an idea but we'll need VSM to navigate round all the trolleys.
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45380000/jpg/_45380757_submarine_512.jpg)
With my record of driving boats? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/oct/22/nuclear-submarine-hms-astute-freed)
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Only 100 people qualified for this first window, so there should be loads left for you part-time fair weather lot.
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Only 100 people qualified for this first window, so there should be loads left for you part-time fair weather lot.
Only 100? Aren't there 1,000 in the Away Scheme? Surely most of those would have gone to both cup games as well.
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Only 100 people qualified for this first window, so there should be loads left for you part-time fair weather lot.
Only 100? Aren't there 1,000 in the Away Scheme? Surely most of those would have gone to both cup games as well.
I think there are about a 1000 in it, but apparently only 100 of us managed to go to both. That Blackburn attendance was really low.
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Only 100 people qualified for this first window, so there should be loads left for you part-time fair weather lot.
Only 100? Aren't there 1,000 in the Away Scheme? Surely most of those would have gone to both cup games as well.
I think there are about a 1000 in it, but apparently only 100 of us managed to go to both. That Blackburn attendance was really low.
pfft, part time supporters. ;-)
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Only 100 people qualified for this first window, so there should be loads left for you part-time fair weather lot.
Only 100? Aren't there 1,000 in the Away Scheme? Surely most of those would have gone to both cup games as well.
I think there are about a 1000 in it, but apparently only 100 of us managed to go to both. That Blackburn attendance was really low.
pfft, part time supporters. ;-)
Oi. Some of us could only make 4 away games instead of 5.
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Re the standing issue, will Birmingham council and our stewards clamp down on standing at the Take That concerts next year? No they won't because they're screaming women so they'll be allowed to stand in the seats throughout, they're not naughty, drunken, hooligan football fans who are bound to cause trouble or get injured if they stand up so nothing will be said or done. Thats what i've never got, thousands are allowed to stand in seats for hours at concerts where you're jumping around throughout yet you're at risk if you stand and sing at a football match.
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Re the standing issue, will Birmingham council and our stewards clamp down on standing at the Take That concerts next year? No they won't because they're screaming women so they'll be allowed to stand in the seats throughout, they're not naughty, drunken, hooligan football fans who are bound to cause trouble or get injured if they stand up so nothing will be said or done. Thats what i've never got, thousands are allowed to stand in seats for hours at concerts where you're jumping around throughout yet you're at risk if you stand and sing at a football match.
Yawn. If you spent more time moaning to your MP about this rather than us, then something might happen.
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Blackcountry Villa have you joined this?
http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safestanding.php
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It's the battle of the worlds greatest fans.
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In case anyone was wondering like I was, the club arent running any coaches for the quarter final. I asked at the ticket office today. I realise it sounds daft to some because of the distance, but a coach to and from the turnstiles might have made a difference to people that want to go but are worried about getting away after the match especially with kids in tow .Without that feeling of extra security theres a good chance they wont now think its worth the bother.
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Coaches would be sitting ducks for the brick chucking knuckledraggers to be honest.
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Coaches would be sitting ducks for the brick chucking knuckledraggers to be honest.
it must be quite hard chucking a brick with no thumbs.
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Would look great on sky if we held up the 'the city is ours' scarfs that are being sold outside the villa on matchdays!
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In case anyone was wondering like I was, the club arent running any coaches for the quarter final. I asked at the ticket office today. I realise it sounds daft to some because of the distance, but a coach to and from the turnstiles might have made a difference to people that want to go but are worried about getting away after the match especially with kids in tow .Without that feeling of extra security theres a good chance they wont now think its worth the bother.
What? Anyone who takes their kids to this particular match needs help!
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exactly
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Use the kids as missiles.
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To be honest, I felt saver when Tom was a kid. Now he's 18 and built like the proverbial brick shite house, I'm very worried.
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To be honest, I felt saver when Tom was a kid. Now he's 18 and built like the proverbial brick shite house, I'm very worried.
Are you saying he's too heavy to lob at the Blues?
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To be honest, I felt saver when Tom was a kid. Now he's 18 and built like the proverbial brick shite house, I'm very worried.
Are you saying he's too heavy to lob at the Blues?
hehehehe, just a tad. If we got about half a dozen of us we may be able to roll him at them.*
*not that I would have used him as a missile when he was younger - oh no.
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I remember having this conversation many years ago on the mailing list. The thing is, regardless of how brave you are, how hard you are, how street-wise you are, you can still get a brick on the head from the moronic element which will reduce you to a vegetative state.
I will be going, I remember having to hide my scarf on the way through the city centre in the late 60s, but I perfectly understand why anybody would not fancy it.
What I don't understand is why anybody wants to play them ever.
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We'll put. I found the advice on the "knuckle dragers" string helpful. Seems like avoiding the cov road, sounds the best piece of advice I have heard. A number of my mates have also commented on the missile throwing rather than Gettin into a ruck being the main issue.
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According to a nose I know, they've sold all their home tickets for the cup game. Any idea if the sold all the tickets they had off us for last weekends game?
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According to a nose I know, they've sold all their home tickets for the cup game. Any idea if the sold all the tickets they had off us for last weekends game?
Yes
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Why were there about 150 empty seats then?
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Because they still get the 2800 tickets but 400 seats are left empty on the ends of rows because it's safer apparantly. I think thats whats happened with us at the sty, we've got the 4000+ seats but 400 will be left empty. That'll stop everyone falling over, injuring themselves, deaths, fights, the lot.
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I'm beginning to think we should rest our first team for this game... well whats left of it.
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I'm beginning to think we should rest our first team for this game... well whats left of it.
and play who? The ladies? The old stars?
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I'm beginning to think we should rest our first team for this game... well whats left of it.
Why? We're going to achieve nothing in the league apart from avoiding a relegation battle so fuck the league, and if Houllier played our reserves in this game the fans would lynch him.
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I'm beginning to think we should rest our first team for this game... well whats left of it.
Why? We're going to achieve nothing in the league apart from avoiding a relegation battle so fuck the league, and if Houllier played our reserves in this game the fans would lynch him.
What a depressing Yammer you are. Order a novelty pack of Prozac you miserable git.
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I'm beginning to think we should rest our first team for this game... well whats left of it.
Why? We're going to achieve nothing in the league apart from avoiding a relegation battle so fuck the league, and if Houllier played our reserves in this game the fans would lynch him.
What a depressing Yammer you are. Order a novelty pack of Prozac you miserable git.
Well what a ridiculous thing to say, rest the first team for this game, to do what exactly finish 8th? Big deal. Sod the league.
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I was referring more to your nonsense about “avoiding relegation”. We won’t play the reserves in this game and I don't think anybody realistically hopes we do or thinks we will.
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Loosing this game to SHA is just unthinkable. This is a MUST win game that will be talked about for many years (if not decades) to come.
Only 3800 of us will be able to say "I was there, when....."
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Loosing this game to SHA is just unthinkable. This is a MUST win game that will be talked about for many years (if not decades) to come.
Only 3800 of us will be able to say "I was there, when....."
Do you think it will? I've seen us win twice there in the league cup and barely mentioned it again. Boasting about it means we think they are our equals.
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Losing to them at this stage of the cup would be pretty galling and significant though, no getting away from it. Great chance for us to progress and a great chance for them if they win.
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True. It's probably easy for me to dismiss it as I don't live in the midlands. But I hope we aren't talking about it for years to come, as it will mean nothing else has happened.
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When we won the cup in '94 we beat Small Heath twice on the way. Yet in the context of the overall cup win it barely warrants a mention. We tend to measure success in trophies but as for the rags, having been starved of any sort of achievement throughout their pitiful history, victory over their near neighbours takes on rather more importance.
I don't hate loosing to them, I hate the fact that we play them at all.
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I don't think we'll talk about it for years if we win, but you just know you'll hear about it for years if we lose even if they lose in the semis. But it would be unbearable if we lost to them and they went on to win the cup aswell.
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Good luck to them. Good club. Great supporters. Powerful management team. Fantastic history.
Oh come on. Them. Win something?
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Any Black County Villans know if the supporters club is running a coach to this game?
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Any Black County Villans know if the supporters club is running a coach to this game?
Nah, just gonna take my tin hat.
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Hmm. I'm in two minds as to whether to risk my life or just watch it on tv.
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Watched them tonight and i think if we go and attack them we will batter them, Albrighton will destroy Ridgewell ......
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Hmm. I'm in two minds as to whether to risk my life or just watch it on tv.
Just watch it on T.V. mate not worth risking your life at that scum hole.
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Hmm. I'm in two minds as to whether to risk my life or just watch it on tv.
Just watch it on T.V. mate not worth risking your life at that scum hole.
Good attitude. Can't understand why we're making such a fuss about the allocation if that's the case.
From my experience, the only way you'll get a beating is if you go looking for it. There'll be a lot of morons looking for a fight, and solely looking for a fight. If you're after trouble you'll find it. However, keep your wits about you and learn to keep stum either way coming out the ground and you'll be fine.
Unless of course the police keep us back for an hour again, making us stand out like the bat signal coming out of the shit hole...
Actually, don't they have to pay for the police presence around the ground? If this is the case... then they'll cock it up. Cheap tin pot organisation that it is.
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Is It definetely on TV?
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Some people need to get a backbone and grow some balls, not going because you're scared? Not taking kids i can understand but other than that get a grip. The noses would piss themselves laughing if they knew people weren't going because they were scared.
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Is It definetely on TV?
Yes, Wednesday night Sky Sports.
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Some people need to get a backbone and grow some balls, not going because you're scared? Not taking kids i can understand but other than that get a grip. The noses would piss themselves laughing if they knew people weren't going because they were scared.
this is the internet site mate, were all nerdy geeks
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Some people need to get a backbone and grow some balls, not going because you're scared? Not taking kids i can understand but other than that get a grip. The noses would piss themselves laughing if they knew people weren't going because they were scared.
Damn me with my jelly spine and empty ball bag. I can't sleep at night thinking about Blues supporters having a laugh at my expense.
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Any idea how tickets are going? I can't get mine til tomorrow due to cash issues. Might ring up the ticket office on me break later.
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As of today, its sold out....
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As of today, its sold out....
Please say this is a wind up.
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As of today, its sold out....
Please day this is a wind up.
Unfortunately not, waiting list is also full. Time to go begging for unwanted tickets or from those that can't go.
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Other little clubs move the venue away from their poxy "stadiums" to somewhere that can handle the demand when they have a rare cup run and are drawn against a BIG club.
In this way they take advantage of a rare full house and more revenue.
What would a similar club like, er... Tamworth do?
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Gutted. First one I'll miss there for years.
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Theres 2-3000 left in their end if anybodies desperate enough, otherwise looks like tv
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From SHA messageboard:
We could sell 60,000 for this. Biggest game in years
;D ;D ;D
Still 3,000 left apparently - even after ST deadline expired, which by my reckoning means they've sold approximately 38,000 less than 60,000!
Jokers.
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have we sold out this season yet ?
i got a txt from AVFC today offering tickets for man u on saturday,
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have we sold out this season yet ?
i got a txt from AVFC today offering tickets for man u on saturday,
Nope.
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Are they definitely all gone? OS doesn't say sold out.
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have we sold out this season yet ?
i got a txt from AVFC today offering tickets for man u on saturday,
Nope.
No we haven't, but our stadium holds a hell of a lot more than the 29,500 capacity at the Sty. So that argument doesn't really hold up.
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As of today, its sold out....
Please day this is a wind up.
Unfortunately not, waiting list is also full. Time to go begging for unwanted tickets or from those that can't go.
Of course if the "council" or whichever nose infested organisation would have let us have our RIGHTFUL allocation as this is a cup game... then there'd be (albeit a small pocket) 700 extra villa fans who could attend.
Ah well... 3,800 of us will still make their home 'support' sound just as shameful. It'll be even more humorous when the attendance is read out @ 27,000 or something pitiful.
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I thought Blues had sold out? I thought they were just saying that 3000 season ticket holders hadn't taken up their tickets, but as they put them on general sale from the off it was sold out? I'd guess those s/t holders were mainly kids.
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Apparently 3,000 S.T Holders didn't claim their seats, and they went on sale on Wednesday. According to the scum o.s they have 1,500 left as of this morning.
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Theirs a rumour on the SHA forum that they've given us 400 more
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Theirs a rumour on the SHA forum that they've given us 400 more
The way the ticket office talked about a waiting list yesterday sounded as though there might be more to come.
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Apparently 3,000 S.T Holders didn't claim their seats, and they went on sale on Wednesday. According to the scum o.s they have 1,500 left as of this morning.
Ah bless 'em, scared i reckon. What happened to their claims on SHA that they could have sold 60,000 for this game? Big club my arse.
The extra 400 tickets rumour has come from someone saying a Villa fan's wife works in the ticket office and was told we're trying to get 400 extra tickets. It would be easy for them to give them us because we've got the bigger allocation anyway but they're leaving seats empty in amongst our fans, but i can't see the council backing down.
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Here's a load of wankers for you.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/11/birmingham-city-fans-given-suspended-sentence-after-derby-game-violence-97319-27643282/
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Here's a load of wankers for you.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/11/birmingham-city-fans-given-suspended-sentence-after-derby-game-violence-97319-27643282/
I see one Michael Harper (he of the Enkleman slap fame) was involved again.
They truly have the most horrible little fan base.
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Here's a load of wankers for you.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/11/birmingham-city-fans-given-suspended-sentence-after-derby-game-violence-97319-27643282/
I see one Michael Harper (he of the Enkleman slap fame) was involved again.
They truly have the most horrible little fan base.
Is THAT the same twat ?
Bunch of losers.
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Some of our fans aren't exactly going to be sweet and innocent come december 1st so i wouldn't get on your high horses about their fans. I can see everyone from both sides being out for this game and i think it'll be kicking off all day around Brum.
Oh and i would hope our club have at least tried to get more tickets and talked the council out of their ridiculous decision.
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EDIT: There may well be a link, but please, no addresses posted directly on here
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Here's a load of wankers for you.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/11/birmingham-city-fans-given-suspended-sentence-after-derby-game-violence-97319-27643282/
Neville Bailey needs a housing transfer.
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Some of our fans aren't exactly going to be sweet and innocent come december 1st so i wouldn't get on your high horses about their fans. I can see everyone from both sides being out for this game and i think it'll be kicking off all day around Brum.
Oh and i would hope our club have at least tried to get more tickets and talked the council out of their ridiculous decision.
All clubs have got their fair share of idiots, but the likes of Leeds, Milwall, Cardiff and Small Heath etc are on another stratosphere when it comes to hooliganism.
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Here's a load of wankers for you.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/11/birmingham-city-fans-given-suspended-sentence-after-derby-game-violence-97319-27643282/
Neville Bailey needs a housing transfer.
or a brain transfer
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I wonder if any ticketless Villa will buy in the blues end? None I hope!
In years gone by, you'd have loads of Villa in their end, mainly due to thousands of Villa trying to get in through two poxy turnstiles at the away end and risk missing half the game. The place really is a shit hole and you can understand the knuckledraggers not wanting to turn up there except when they play us.
Off topic .. Thinking about it, doesn't your ground generally sum up who you are? St. Andrews says everything you need to know about the Rags, in the same way Villa Park does for us, the Cottage for Fulham, Old Trafford for the Gloryhunters..
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Who in their right mind would want to sit in the Blues end?
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Anyone for whom this game means the world and with close enough mates not evil enough to point them out to those most like themselves regardless of the score.
In other words some of us love the Villa more than life itself but love their mates (regardless of their inherited allegaince) enough to go along with them behind enemy lines.
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Anyone for whom this game means the world and with close enough mates not evil enough to point them out to those most like themselves regardless of the score.
In other words some of us love the Villa more than life itself but love their mates (regardless of their inherited allegaince) enough to go along with them behind enemy lines.
People love their Bluenose mates? Turncoats ;) Who in their right mind would befriend the scruffy fuckers anyway?
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One of them lives in Trinity Road? That must be painful for the thick twat.
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Who in their right mind would want to sit in the Blues end?
You need a tetanus booster first.
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Cant wait to see Marc Albrighton against Ridgewell. He is gonna destroy him ..........
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One of them lives in Trinity Road? That must be painful for the thick twat.
He probably smashes his own front windows to he can lob rocks at passing Villa fans from the safety of his kitchen.
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Cant wait to see Marc Albrighton against Ridgewell. He is gonna destroy him ..........
They'll try and kick lumps out of him early doors. Good job he's tough as old boots. I really think Albrighton will shine in big games.
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guys where are the few (3800) meeting up before the game!!!!
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guys where are the few (3800) meeting up before the game!!!!
No idea officer.
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Link (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2220095,00.html)
Holte Pub screening. Ł5 entry with Pint & Pie.
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SHA still have 1,000 tickets left. I thought this was their "match of the century".
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They've gone off it a bit in the last seven games. I think some of the younger fans that started going when they came up in 2002 honestly thought them beating us was the norm. The older Noses were quite happy to go along with the Sky mantra of no previous league meetings counting. God knows what piece of high ground over us they have taken to clinging too lately.
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Link (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2220095,00.html)
Holte Pub screening. Ł5 entry with Pint & Pie.
And in no way patronising.
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Link (http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~2220095,00.html)
Holte Pub screening. Ł5 entry with Pint & Pie.
It's the PIE isn't it Dave.
And in no way patronising.
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Here's a load of wankers for you.
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/11/birmingham-city-fans-given-suspended-sentence-after-derby-game-violence-97319-27643282/
Not many Brummies on that list.
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strange that a lot of them abode in Chelmsley Wood
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Watching football first and noticed the chelsea fans seem to have practically all the lower railway and yet there all standing who makes the health and safety rules?? so we get 700 hundred tickets took off us for a cup game were our allocation seems less than a league game even with the 700 added on
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Don't know if it's been posted on here, but I phoned the ticket office today and there's a message on there stating that a limited number of tickets will be available on Thursday 25th to season card holders.
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Watching football first and noticed the chelsea fans seem to have practically all the lower railway and yet there all standing who makes the health and safety rules?? so we get 700 hundred tickets took off us for a cup game were our allocation seems less than a league game even with the 700 added on
Yep and the crowd was only about 25k! That means c.20k noses for a game against the champions which weren't televised.
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Watching football first and noticed the chelsea fans seem to have practically all the lower railway and yet there all standing who makes the health and safety rules?? so we get 700 hundred tickets took off us for a cup game were our allocation seems less than a league game even with the 700 added on
Yep and the crowd was only about 25k! That means c.20k noses for a game against the champions which weren't televised.
24k. That means there was less than 20k home fans at the Sty for the visit of the champions.
Laughable support.
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Watching football first and noticed the chelsea fans seem to have practically all the lower railway and yet there all standing who makes the health and safety rules?? so we get 700 hundred tickets took off us for a cup game were our allocation seems less than a league game even with the 700 added on
Yep and the crowd was only about 25k! That means c.20k noses for a game against the champions which weren't televised.
24k. That means there was less than 20k home fans at the Sty for the visit of the champions.
Laughable support.
Laughable fans too
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
20,000 home fans to see their team take on the current champions. It truly is pathetic.
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
fact is you still didnt sell out for your derby game did you wheather you like it or not....as people on here like to point out your the biggest club round these parts and cant sell out a derby game........
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
Paulie, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Have they sold out for our game yet? And is the reason for our increased allocation due to the fact they can't shift them? (for what is their biggest game in years)
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
by the time that game comes round it will be a sell out,dont worry we will do our part and there wont be any empty seats like i seen at villa the other week
Paulie, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Have they sold out for our game yet? And is the reason for our increased allocation due to the fact they can't shift them? (for what is their biggest game in years)
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by the time that game comes round it will be a sell out,dont worry we will do our part and there wont be any empty seats like i seen at villa the other week
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
fact is you still didnt sell out for your derby game did you wheather you like it or not....as people on here like to point out your the biggest club round these parts and cant sell out a derby game........
But we get gates that consistently piss all over yours, so what's your point numbnuts?
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by the time that game comes round it will be a sell out,dont worry we will do our part and there wont be any empty seats like i seen at villa the other week
What was the crowd for last seasons derby at the Sty? Approx 25k? (with 3k Villa). LOADS of empty seats.
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remember guys you didnt sell out for your derby game against us...so stop banging on how big your support is....
We're not banging on about how big our support is.
We're banging on about how pathetic yours is.
by the time that game comes round it will be a sell out,dont worry we will do our part and there wont be any empty seats like i seen at villa the other week
Paulie, you took the words right out of my mouth!
Have they sold out for our game yet? And is the reason for our increased allocation due to the fact they can't shift them? (for what is their biggest game in years)
You only need to sell about 25,000 tickets to sell out, it's nothing to shout about.
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The Albion and the Wolves get bigger gates than the Blues. They both have a fair bit of history too.
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by the time that game comes round it will be a sell out,dont worry we will do our part and there wont be any empty seats like i seen at villa the other week
You're not that big a draw to us.
We are to you, so what?
Coventry used to treat their games against us as a cup final too, I wasn't particularly bothered when we didn't sell out against them either.
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by the time that game comes round it will be a sell out,dont worry we will do our part and there wont be any empty seats like i seen at villa the other week
You're not that big a draw to us.
We are to you, so what?
Coventry used to treat their games against us as a cup final too, I wasn't particularly bothered when we didn't sell out against them either.
so tell me then who is a big draw to you then because you aint got europe this season..?
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As the 4th best supported team in the region I can't believe a nose is arguing crowds....Believe you me you are welcome to the City's name and the dishonour you've done it since renaming your club.
Even if you beat us next week always remember you have never had any class and it's impossible to polish a turd.
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The derby at Villa Park wasn't a sell out because of the booking history requirement. With a general sale, it would have sold out easily.
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The derby at Villa Park wasn't a sell out because of the booking history requirement. With a general sale, it would have sold out easily.
that should not come into it mate....remember your the a massive club people keep ramming down our throats...and you could not sell out a derby game.......fact.....
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The derby at Villa Park wasn't a sell out because of the booking history requirement. With a general sale, it would have sold out easily.
that should not come into it mate....remember your the a massive club people keep ramming down our throats...and you could not sell out a derby game.......fact.....
Wasn't you just told why?
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
Mmmm, @ 39,000 Villa fans present. Next week is your 'biggest game' for years apparently and yet you can't sell 25,000 tickets? Truth hurts I guess...
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
Mmmm, @ 39,000 Villa fans present. Next week is your 'biggest game' for years apparently and yet you can't sell 25,000 tickets? Truth hurts I guess...
mmmm wait and see...there is over a week to go yet......i await your next sweeping statement
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
Mmmm, @ 39,000 Villa fans present. Next week is your 'biggest game' for years apparently and yet you can't sell 25,000 tickets? Truth hurts I guess...
mmmm wait and see...there is over a week to go yet......i await your next sweeping statement
Even your own fans predicted mile long queues to get tickets. I'm sure it sell out even with our help in shifting your home tickets....
Your playing a severely weakened local rival Villa with the chance to get to a Cup Semi Final with STH prices at Ł25 a go....a bargain surely and on general sale...
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
Mmmm, @ 39,000 Villa fans present. Next week is your 'biggest game' for years apparently and yet you can't sell 25,000 tickets? Truth hurts I guess...
mmmm wait and see...there is over a week to go yet......i await your next sweeping statement
I saw an interesting stat the other day regarding the Villa v Chelsea game and the Blues v Chelsea game.
Villa park was just under 98% full.
St Andrews was just under 80% full.
If I remember right, our game was on the TV?
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I saw an interesting stat the other day regarding the Villa v Chelsea game and the Blues v Chelsea game.
Villa park was just under 98% full.
St Andrews was just under 80% full.
If I remember right, our game was on the TV?
Don't let the facts get in the way. With 4,000 away fans contributing to the 80% too?
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
Mmmm, @ 39,000 Villa fans present. Next week is your 'biggest game' for years apparently and yet you can't sell 25,000 tickets? Truth hurts I guess...
mmmm wait and see...there is over a week to go yet......i await your next sweeping statement
You might well sell 25,000 tickets but for a side based in the second biggest city in the country it's still not very good is it? You're a small club with a small fan base and you know it.
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I saw an interesting stat the other day regarding the Villa v Chelsea game and the Blues v Chelsea game.
Villa park was just under 98% full.
St Andrews was just under 80% full.
If I remember right, our game was on the TV?
Don't let the facts get in the way. With 4,000 away fans contributing to the 80% too?
No doubt.
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I don't like to knock the Small Heath attendances because in the current climate I think the Midlands has been hit particularly badly and gates at Villa, The Sty and the Albion are suffering.
However... 3pm kick-offs last Saturday.
26,315 - Norwich v Leeds
25,189 - Derby v Scunthorpe
24,357 - Small Heath v Last season's double winners (inc 4,000 Chelsea fans)
22,177 - Southampton v Peterborough (3rd Div)
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Even by the standards of this site this has to be the most pathetic , peurile debate I've ever seen .
In keeping with the rest of the debate here's my contribution , my dad's bigger than yours so there yah boo sucks ?
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It helps relieve the boredom I'm currently enjoying at work!
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Even by the standards of this site this has to be the most pathetic , peurile debate I've ever seen .
In keeping with the rest of the debate here's my contribution , my dad's bigger than yours so there yah boo sucks ?
Not much going on at the SHA forums then?
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What happened to the 50,000 you took to Wembley? Surely they'll all come out for little old Villa?
it will be a sell out i imagine......plus i bet toon sold out against sunderland.everton sold out against liverpool,city v utd a sell out,arsenal v spurs a sell out.........i even will say the black country derby will be a sell out......your game against us was not....truth hurts i know but just stating facts....
Maybe the late winners are the reason it's not a sell out.
Or it could be that you're a terminally shit club, in a massive city, with support that gets embarressed by the likes of Norwich, Southampton, Charlton, the Stripey-filth and the Dogheads, and not only do you not turn up at home, you've also one the the most pitiful away followings ever seen in this division.
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Even by the standards of this site this has to be the most pathetic , peurile debate I've ever seen .
In keeping with the rest of the debate here's my contribution , my dad's bigger than yours so there yah boo sucks ?
How's that a question?
Div.
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Are we going to have enough fit players to make a team?
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Less than 20k against the reigning champions, Saturday 3pm kick off, not on the telly either.
Truly the poorest support of any club in the Midlands, and in relative terms worse than Walsall as well.
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They should change their name again...
Small Attendance Heath.
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with albrighton out for you now we got a right good chance as hes a good player......
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Surely you can't fail to beat us now? Got to be worth a full house...
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Even by the standards of this site this has to be the most pathetic , peurile debate I've ever seen .
In keeping with the rest of the debate here's my contribution , my dad's bigger than yours so there yah boo sucks ?
Great input mate, well done.
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Surely you can't fail to beat us now? Got to be worth a full house...
you'll do for me....erm winston send that man a bronx hat....
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Surely you can't fail to beat us now? Got to be worth a full house...
you'll do for me....erm winston send that man a bronx hat....
Now he's injured perhaps he'll snap up a ticket and help edge you a touch closer to that magical 24,000 sell out number??
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Surely you can't fail to beat us now? Got to be worth a full house...
you'll do for me....erm winston send that man a bronx hat....
Now he's injured perhaps he'll snap up a ticket and help edge you a touch closer to that magical 24,000 sell out number??
yeh ive heard hes from a blues family like hendrie and the gardeners
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Surely you can't fail to beat us now? Got to be worth a full house...
you'll do for me....erm winston send that man a bronx hat....
Now he's injured perhaps he'll snap up a ticket and help edge you a touch closer to that magical 24,000 sell out number??
yeh ive heard hes from a blues family like hendrie
I knew there had to be a logical reason why he was a complete dickhead
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Surely you can't fail to beat us now? Got to be worth a full house...
you'll do for me....erm winston send that man a bronx hat....
Now he's injured perhaps he'll snap up a ticket and help edge you a touch closer to that magical 24,000 sell out number??
yeh ive heard hes from a blues family like hendrie and the gardeners
His Dad is a Villa fanatic who was present in Rotterdam that fateful night in 82.
Again, perhaps Albrighton will buy his Dad a ticket and help you reach that magical 24,000 number??
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not what i heard ;)
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I don't know if that nose was implying marc was a bluenose, but i can assure you that he isn't! Marc is a massive Villa fan and his dad is a massive forest fan. I can guarantee this
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not what i heard ;)
Believe what you like - Albrighton's a star in the making, so obviously he'll never play for Small Heath Alliance.
Here's a question for you though, has your club ever brought through a decent Premier League standard player through the ranks? It seems all the decent talent in the West Midlands want to play their football at Villa Park. It must really get to you.
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In fact, I know Marc as Deano. He got this name when he was younger because as he started playing football his favourite player was Dean Saunders and like Mr Saunders, Deano used to score bucket loads!
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Even by the standards of this site this has to be the most pathetic , peurile debate I've ever seen .
In keeping with the rest of the debate here's my contribution , my dad's bigger than yours so there yah boo sucks ?
I think you'll agree that the level of debate has gone down even further since you wrote this. We now have Birmingham City fans basking in some pathetic reflected glory due to former or current Villa players (or their families) possibly/potentially being Birmingham City fans at some point or not (not yet established the facts in some cases). Do these things really matter to Birmingham City supporters? Who Villa player's dads supported and suchlike? .... Oh and as Albrighton is from Tamworth how does that work for you? I know that your parochial support prefer all your fans to be born within the sound of the Beau Brummie Tavern's last orders bell... God I wish we had decent local rivals.
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Albrighton is definitely Villa.
I know Gardner's cousin, she always maintained he was a nose, despite what he said in interviews.
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If Gardner left Blues for Albion he would all of a sudden recall his trip to Wembley to watch them beat Port Vale in the Second Division Play Off and how he always supported them through thin and thin yadda yadda yadda...
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If Gardner left Blues for Albion he would all of a sudden recall his trip to Wembley to watch them beat Port Vale in the Second Division Play Off and how he always supported them through thin and thin yadda yadda yadda...
What it really boils down to is that Gardner just wasn't good enough for the Villa so he took a step down to Small Heath. Blues' fan or not, if he was getting a game at Villa he'd have stayed, and that's the fact that gets to the Noses more than anything.
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If Gardner left Blues for Albion he would all of a sudden recall his trip to Wembley to watch them beat Port Vale in the Second Division Play Off and how he always supported them through thin and thin yadda yadda yadda...
What it really boils down to is that Gardner just wasn't good enough for the Villa so he took a step down to Small Heath. Blues' fan or not, if he was getting a game at Villa he'd have stayed, and that's the fact that gets to the Noses more than anything.
ifs and buts mate.....say what you want no getting away from it that he grew up a nose and hes playing for his boyhood club....
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Rumour has it that these extra tickets are tickets the Noses couldn't shift in their part of the lower Railway, so they've moved the segregation up to accommodate us.
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Rumour has it that these extra tickets are tickets the Noses couldn't shift in their part of the lower Railway, so they've moved the segregation up to accommodate us.
wild internet rumours mate.....these tickets that are left will be seats dotted around the ground....
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Rumour has it that these extra tickets are tickets the Noses couldn't shift in their part of the lower Railway, so they've moved the segregation up to accommodate us.
wild internet rumours mate.....these tickets that are left will be seats dotted around the ground....
So these extra tickets that villa have put on sale are in the home ends ?.
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Rumour has it that these extra tickets are tickets the Noses couldn't shift in their part of the lower Railway, so they've moved the segregation up to accommodate us.
wild internet rumours mate.....these tickets that are left will be seats dotted around the ground....
So these extra tickets that villa have put on sale are in the home ends ?.
Yes, of course they are.
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Rumour has it that these extra tickets are tickets the Noses couldn't shift in their part of the lower Railway, so they've moved the segregation up to accommodate us.
wild internet rumours mate.....these tickets that are left will be seats dotted around the ground....
Wild Internet rumours? This is what Blues do everytime they can't shift tickets in their part of the away stand - they shift the segregation further over and hand more tickets to the away club. Happens practically every home game at the Sty because of your piss poor support.
Don't make excuses, Bluenose - you simply can't sell a pitiful 24k to get a full house.
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Blose haven't made it a fiver yet and kids for a quid? Surely then they will sell out? No?
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they have hired an open top bus allready
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they have hired an open top bus allready
i really could not give a flyin how many is there if im honest......as long as we win....simples really...
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In all fairness i did here that the tickets left over were mainly kids season ticket holders seats and these will be dotted around, the segregation was always gonna be were it is but the 700 tickets we had took off us will now be 500. Which does mean that there will be 500 empty seats in the villa end just as nthere was 400 in the blues end at villa park. Being a villa fan From Chelmsley i hate to agree wiv anything a nose says.
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In all fairness i did here that the tickets left over were mainly kids season ticket holders seats and these will be dotted around, the segregation was always gonna be were it is but the 700 tickets we had took off us will now be 500. Which does mean that there will be 500 empty seats in the villa end just as nthere was 400 in the blues end at villa park. Being a villa fan From Chelmsley i hate to agree wiv anything a nose says.
i see chelmsley wood was well represented in the latest dust up between the two sets of fans.....
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In all fairness i did here that the tickets left over were mainly kids season ticket holders seats and these will be dotted around, the segregation was always gonna be were it is but the 700 tickets we had took off us will now be 500. Which does mean that there will be 500 empty seats in the villa end just as nthere was 400 in the blues end at villa park. Being a villa fan From Chelmsley i hate to agree wiv anything a nose says.
Kids seats or not, they only have to sell 24k to sell out. If they can't muster 24k for such a big game at relatively cheap prices then it's a damning inditement of their club.
What a dreadfully small fanbase they have at the Sty.
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fao...erm are you going saunders hero??
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I was just saying our extra tickets has nothing to do with fact the blues support is shit and they cant sell out considering they cud've of sold 60,000 for this game.
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fao...erm are you going saunders hero??
Even if he is'nt, there's apparantley 40,000 Small Heath Fans who are'nt either.
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Rumour has it that these extra tickets are tickets the Noses couldn't shift in their part of the lower Railway, so they've moved the segregation up to accommodate us.
wild internet rumours mate.....these tickets that are left will be seats dotted around the ground....
Wild Internet rumours? This is what Blues do everytime they can't shift tickets in their part of the away stand - they shift the segregation further over and hand more tickets to the away club. Happens practically every home game at the Sty because of your piss poor support.
Don't make excuses, Bluenose - you simply can't sell a pitiful 24k to get a full house.
You're right, small heath's support is on level with Wigan's and I'm being deadly serious... expect to see the usual mass of empty seats at the Sty in 8 days time:
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In all fairness i did here that the tickets left over were mainly kids season ticket holders seats and these will be dotted around, the segregation was always gonna be were it is but the 700 tickets we had took off us will now be 500. Which does mean that there will be 500 empty seats in the villa end just as nthere was 400 in the blues end at villa park. Being a villa fan From Chelmsley i hate to agree wiv anything a nose says.
mmmmmmmmm
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In all fairness i did here that the tickets left over were mainly kids season ticket holders seats and these will be dotted around, the segregation was always gonna be were it is but the 700 tickets we had took off us will now be 500. Which does mean that there will be 500 empty seats in the villa end just as nthere was 400 in the blues end at villa park. Being a villa fan From Chelmsley i hate to agree wiv anything a nose says.
And it looks like Manchester council have also taken exception to us too. The maximum away allocation at Citeh is 2,846 but we've been given 2,600. I read in the paper before the recent manc derby that United's allocation had been cut to 2,600 because of persistent standing by their fans and it seems the same's happened to us.
I wish these faceless council committees would explain the thinking behind these ludicrous decisions and why they pick on certain clubs.
Small Heath and United both had their allocations cut at Villa Park recently, with seats clearly left empty, yet other away fans stand up at both Villa and The Sty without the same punishments. In fact, don't most away fans stand up at most grounds?
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In fact, don't most away fans stand up at most grounds?
Yes, and now it looks like councils are starting to act.
So sit down?
Either that or give clubs (and councils) an excuse to ban away fans altogether.
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The upper holte constantly stand at the back, whats the answer? The stewards are always telling them to sit down.
I can see people being kicked out next but then that takes revenue away from the club?
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What's the big problem with standing up anyway?
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What's the big problem with standing up anyway?
Nothing. You can at concerts.
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What's the big problem with standing up anyway?
We've done this in threads passim, but regardless of the pros and cons the one fact is that standing is against stadium rules in every all-seater football ground, and it looks like it's being clamped down on, so our away fans either sit down or we lose tickets and they can't go anyway.
Fair / unfair? That's another debate altogether.
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What's the big problem with standing up anyway?
We've done this in threads passim, but regardless of the pros and cons the one fact is that standing is against stadium rules in every all-seater football ground, and it looks like it's being clamped down on, so our away fans either sit down or we lose tickets and they can't go anyway.
Fair / unfair? That's another debate altogether.
I go to away games and usually always stand, but I've never seen any problems arise from it. It just seems such a petty and spiteful rule.
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I see there is snow on the way to the Midlands next week. I trust the Rags have undersoil heating at the Sty.
Expect the game to be called off. At least it may give us a week to get a few players back.
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I see there is snow on the way to the Midlands next week. I trust the Rags have undersoil heating at the Sty.
Just don't try and head the snowballs they through at us!
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Ticket update for you.......less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....dont know when they will update the bcfc site with it......
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Ticket update for you.......less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....dont know when they will update the bcfc site with it......
Gosh that must be so exciting for you. That means so far you've sold over 23,500!
Wow!!
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are you going though that is the question?
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Ticket update for you.......less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....dont know when they will update the bcfc site with it......
Reckon that the dole money must have been paid in today then.
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Ticket update for you.......less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....
She still on the BCFC payroll then ?
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
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Ticket update for you.......less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....dont know when they will update the bcfc site with it......
How many would be left if our allocation hadn't been increased?
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.less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....
So that's what Geoff Horsfield was forcing on the shoppers in town then.
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
cos im a nosey fecker.....not scared are you......
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
cos im a nosey fecker.....not scared are you......
Didn't take long for you to revert to type.
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
cos im a nosey fecker.....not scared are you......
You're out early Has the heating packed in at school today?
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I just can't wait for the game not long to go now.
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Petty and spiteful to ask people to sit in their seat in an all seater stadium, how is that petty and spiteful?
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Speaking to a colleague and student at work today, who have season tickets for Blues and go to many away games, and they said they can't see them scoring a goal against us or anybody that they play. They reckon it'll be the same as usual, their two centre-back playing great, but as a team they get nowhere.
They also commented how Zigic is like a shit Kevin Francis.
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Ticket update for you.......less than 260 left now and thats from the horses mouth.....dont know when they will update the bcfc site with it......
You must be so proud.
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
cos im a nosey fecker.....not scared are you......
Didn't take long for you to revert to type.
just a plain simple yes or no will do saunders????
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Not sure why but I can't get excited by this game at all. Maybe its all our injuries, maybe its the cold weather. Just another game to watch. Quite bored by it all at the moment. Anyway, back to off-topic.
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http://www.that lot.com/read.php?1,339512
This made me chuckle when I read that thread... I thought only proper Brummies supported Birmingham City and only Villa fans live outside Birmingham? Just proves their mantra of Brummies only support Birmingham City and all Villa fans living outside of Birmingham is complete and utter bullshit.
Oh well, not long to go until Birmingham City's biggest ever game since 3 weeks ago... I bet they're so proud they can have such a massive amount of 23k noses inside the sty (well, I say 23k, no doubt half of the Railway End will be completely empty but yet they'll still count those seats and add them to the capacity lol).
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
cos im a nosey fecker.....not scared are you......
Didn't take long for you to revert to type.
just a plain simple yes or no will do saunders????
Ooooh scary lulu!!
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Not sure why but I can't get excited by this game at all. Maybe its all our injuries, maybe its the cold weather. Just another game to watch. Quite bored by it all at the moment. Anyway, back to off-topic.
To be honest, with 12 players being injured it'll just make them look like even bigger clowns than they already are if we beat them. If they beat us, so what... they've beaten an injury-ridden team forced to play kids yet they won't understand that and act like they've just won the World Cup.
There's much more pressure on them to win it - home advantage, no injuries, playing a team that isn't good on the road and got an endless injury list.
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Seriously, what is the general mood of anticipation/excitement in the city regarding this one? i genuinely am not bothered by it. Don't want to lose obviously, but its justa shrug of shoulders as to who we're actually playing.
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I feel quite apathetic towards it at the moment but I'm sure that will change on or around 1st December.
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are you going though that is the question?
What's it to you?
cos im a nosey fecker.....not scared are you......
Didn't take long for you to revert to type.
just a plain simple yes or no will do saunders????
Ooooh scary lulu!!
I will take it as a no then......armchair...
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Not sure why but I can't get excited by this game at all. Maybe its all our injuries, maybe its the cold weather. Just another game to watch. Quite bored by it all at the moment. Anyway, back to off-topic.
To be honest, with 12 players being injured it'll just make them look like even bigger clowns than they already are if we beat them. If they beat us, so what... they've beaten an injury-ridden team forced to play kids yet they won't understand that and act like they've just won the World Cup.
There's much more pressure on them to win it - home advantage, no injuries, playing a team that isn't good on the road and got an endless injury list.
hahahaha.....your just getting your excuses in first......its not our fault you got a load of injuries is it....
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Can we please keep this one above the level of my dad's bigger than yours.
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Not sure why but I can't get excited by this game at all. Maybe its all our injuries, maybe its the cold weather. Just another game to watch. Quite bored by it all at the moment. Anyway, back to off-topic.
To be honest, with 12 players being injured it'll just make them look like even bigger clowns than they already are if we beat them. If they beat us, so what... they've beaten an injury-ridden team forced to play kids yet they won't understand that and act like they've just won the World Cup.
There's much more pressure on them to win it - home advantage, no injuries, playing a team that isn't good on the road and got an endless injury list.
hahahaha.....your just getting your excuses in first......its not our fault you got a load of injuries is it....
Just imagine if you get beat by a load of kids though. Must be your worst nightmare.
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Not sure why but I can't get excited by this game at all. Maybe its all our injuries, maybe its the cold weather. Just another game to watch. Quite bored by it all at the moment. Anyway, back to off-topic.
To be honest, with 12 players being injured it'll just make them look like even bigger clowns than they already are if we beat them. If they beat us, so what... they've beaten an injury-ridden team forced to play kids yet they won't understand that and act like they've just won the World Cup.
There's much more pressure on them to win it - home advantage, no injuries, playing a team that isn't good on the road and got an endless injury list.
hahahaha.....your just getting your excuses in first......its not our fault you got a load of injuries is it....
But it's not excuses though, is it? It's cold hard facts. We've got 12 players injured, our away record this season isn't very good, you've got home advantage and no injuries - of course you're the favourites I think the fact that we've got so many injuries yet there is some doubt in Blosers minds that you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again is very intresting.
If you lose I can bet you and your fans will be moaning and groaning about how you couldn't beat a 'Vile reserve' team and that you bottled it etc... If we lose we've got genuine reasons that might explain our loss like having 12 players injured and throwing in a couple of youngsters who have never played in a derby match let alone start a few Premier League game, so it won't be any skin off our noses (no pun intended) whereas if you lose you've got diddly squat. You're the favourites and you've got far more to lose than us. How confident would you be if you played Villa at Villa Park in a Quarter-Final with half your team missing plus squad players? Much much less confident than Villa fans are going into the game next week. Can you rely on any of your young talents coming out of your academy? No, I didn't think so.
I don't mind having sensible 'debates' with a bluenose, but lets keep it real yeah and not say immature things like ''you're making excuses etc..." even though many blosers aren't as confident as they're making out.
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Not sure why but I can't get excited by this game at all. Maybe its all our injuries, maybe its the cold weather. Just another game to watch. Quite bored by it all at the moment.
Same here. I'm much more interested in the Arsenal game at the weekend. Maybe it's because we played the Rags the other week or more likely because they're just a poxy little side that we by misfortune, have to share a city with.
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We're going to achieve nothing in the league other than survival, we're not going to trouble the top 6 and maybe not even the top half, so this game is huge even though some people think they/we are too big to consider it so. Imo we'll be around the bottom 3 over christmas but if we've got a semi final to look forward to it will soften the blow, however if we're near the bottom 3 and we're out of the cup at the hands of small heath it will be very depressing. Fuck the league, i'd settle for a bottom half finish and a win over Small Heath and go on to win the cup.
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We're going to achieve nothing in the league other than survival, we're not going to trouble the top 6 and maybe not even the top half, so this game is huge even though some people think they/we are too big to consider it so. Imo we'll be around the bottom 3 over christmas but if we've got a semi final to look forward to it will soften the blow, however if we're near the bottom 3 and we're out of the cup at the hands of small heath it will be very depressing. Fuck the league, i'd settle for a bottom half finish and a win over Small Heath and go on to win the cup.
Christ you're dull.
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
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We're going to achieve nothing in the league other than survival, we're not going to trouble the top 6 and maybe not even the top half, so this game is huge even though some people think they/we are too big to consider it so. Imo we'll be around the bottom 3 over christmas but if we've got a semi final to look forward to it will soften the blow, however if we're near the bottom 3 and we're out of the cup at the hands of small heath it will be very depressing. Fuck the league, i'd settle for a bottom half finish and a win over Small Heath and go on to win the cup.
Christ you're dull.
I'm so dull you took the time out to read my post, then quote it and reply. Christ you're thick.
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
Well every dog has it's day and all that. You must have been delighted to stop the rot of 6 consecutive defeats by the Villa. Christ that must have hurt you lot.
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
Well every dog has it's day and all that. You must have been delighted to stop the rot of 6 consecutive defeats by the Villa. Christ that must have hurt you lot.
it took you 6 times mate as well....but thats history now so we all move on dont we.....dont look back,look forward...
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
Well every dog has it's day and all that. You must have been delighted to stop the rot of 6 consecutive defeats by the Villa. Christ that must have hurt you lot.
it took you 6 times mate as well....but thats history now so we all move on dont we.....dont look back,look forward...
With a history as humiliating as yours I'm not surprised you choose not to look back.
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Sheldon, serious question now not a dig, but why haven't you sold out? Massive game, night game atmosphere, cheapish tickets, and the way your fans have been going on about it like it's your biggest game for years yet there are still tickets left?!
(you may already have answered this but i can't be arsed to read 34 pages)
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And why were there just less than 20k home fans at the Sty for the visit of the reigning champions on a Saturday 3pm kick off which wasn't televised?
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Sheldon, serious question now not a dig, but why haven't you sold out? Massive game, night game atmosphere, cheapish tickets, and the way your fans have been going on about it like it's your biggest game for years yet there are still tickets left?!
(you may already have answered this but i can't be arsed to read 34 pages)
theres 200 odd left now... so come the day of the game it will be a sell out no worries.....but i did think it should have sold out faster than it has done......i dont know what the answer is really....maybe christmas coming,i dont now...
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
Nearly 6 years you haven't beat us though, isn't it? Arsenal went 10 years without losing to Spurs, I reckon we can beat that record... scrap that, what about the 16 years going unbeaten which lasted through the 90's and into the 2000's?
Sheldon, this is a massive game for you, even bigger than your last game against us... you're favourites to win and if you don't I will be having so much fun on your SHA forum you won't even believe it just laughing myself silly at all the "Eck Out", "Why do we play such negative football", "Where's our Ł40 million gone?", "Why do we play not to lose", "Zigic is shit", "Gardner is a Vile prick" etc... whereas if we lose I'm sure Villa fans will be a bit annoyed, but under the circumstances of having 12 players injured, we won't care that much and we'll just laugh at how you'll act like you've just won the World Cup. Blosers are shitting themselves STILL despite us having an injury list which is bigger than the number of people that will be sitting in the home section of the railway end... what a real life nightmare it will be for you blosers if you lose to a 'bunch of Vile kids' it must be the worst thing you could possibly think of happening to your club, even worse than losing the Leyland Daf Cup Final.
It'll be unbearable if you lose and you know it, especially being the favourites to win playing at home - you've got so much to lose I don't think you realise it.
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
. whereas if we lose I'm sure Villa fans will be a bit annoyed, but we won't care that much
If you honestly think that then i'm afraid you're kidding yourself. I will be gutted and mightily pissed off if we lose and i have to stand there in the Sty listening to them taking the piss, as i'm sure everyone else there will be.
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Playing with a weakened team which involves young lads, playing at the Sty with our away record being crap - it really wouldn't disappoint me that much if we lost, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Just for shits and giggles I might just do a media blackout for 2 hours and then turn on Sky Sports after the game has ended just to see if there is a surprised smile on my face or if there's a shrug of the shoulders whilst muttering 'damn'.
Serious question, which game means more to which set of fans and which fans will be more disappointed if there team loses? Like I said, the blosers would be put on suicide watch if they lose to a bunch of 'Vile kids' at the sty.
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I can't understand these Villa fans pretending to be not too bothered about this game, and that it means more to them than us...
Come on... really?
It's massive, and I can't think of a worse feeling in recent years than standing in the away end at the Sty when we lose, having to endure all of them celebrating wildly. I certainly don't want to experience that again next week.
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I can't understand these Villa fans pretending to be not too bothered about this game, and that it means more to them than us...
Come on... really?
It's massive, and I can't think of a worse feeling in recent years than standing in the away end at the Sty when we lose, having to endure all of them celebrating wildly. I certainly don't want to experience that again next week.
Like i said some Villa fans think they and we are too big to be bothered about Blues and losing to them but the fact is we're going to do nothing in the league and this game is massive. Like you say it is a horrible feeling standing in the Sty when you're losing or you've lost and if anyone is stood there next week claiming they're not that bothered they're lying.
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fao.the situation....your quote"you'll still manage to bottle it and fall at the feet of your superior masters once again".......well we didnt the other week did we...
Nearly 6 years you haven't beat us though, isn't it? Arsenal went 10 years without losing to Spurs, I reckon we can beat that record... scrap that, what about the 16 years going unbeaten which lasted through the 90's and into the 2000's?
Sheldon, this is a massive game for you, even bigger than your last game against us... you're favourites to win and if you don't I will be having so much fun on your SHA forum you won't even believe it just laughing myself silly at all the "Eck Out", "Why do we play such negative football", "Where's our Ł40 million gone?", "Why do we play not to lose", "Zigic is shit", "Gardner is a Vile prick" etc... whereas if we lose I'm sure Villa fans will be a bit annoyed, but under the circumstances of having 12 players injured, we won't care that much and we'll just laugh at how you'll act like you've just won the World Cup. Blosers are shitting themselves STILL despite us having an injury list which is bigger than the number of people that will be sitting in the home section of the railway end... what a real life nightmare it will be for you blosers if you lose to a 'bunch of Vile kids' it must be the worst thing you could possibly think of happening to your club, even worse than losing the Leyland Daf Cup Final.
It'll be unbearable if you lose and you know it, especially being the favourites to win playing at home - you've got so much to lose I don't think you realise it.
god your like a washing machine aint you just saying the same old stuff all the time just going round and round and round all the time...change the record will you.....
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Do nothing in the league? Long way to go mate. Houllier is still finding his feet (although he's got us playing much better), we're waiting for injured players to return, it looks like we'll do a bit of buisness in January... I wouldn't write off the season yet, would be unfair. Lots of football to be played from now until the end of season. Remember all those slow starts Everton have...
Like I said, blose fans will be much more gutted if they lose given the circumstances of everything being in their favour. Home team, no injuries, playing a side which is injury-ridden etc... Whereas we're the complete opposite and we're not the favourites so it won't hurt as much if we lose. Not saying it won't be annoying/disappointing for some Villa fans, it just really wouldn't hurt much for me personally because I know we're not the favourites and we'll be playing and inexperinced team with lots of players missing. Oh, we're also glory hunters who don't live in Birmingham so what would a derby mean to glory hunting out-of-towner Villa fans ;)
P.S. Sheldon; If I'm so boring why don't you just reply to post and the points I'm making instead of writing one liners that actually don't address anything I say in my posts so you don't have to keep reading the same thing from me? If you properly replied I wouldn't need to keep repeating myself. So would you like to comment on the fact we haven't lost to you in nearly 6 years, that you're the favourites to win next week given the circumstances etc...?
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A nose has posted 81 times on a Villa site? Bloody hell they say we're obsessed with them! I suppose it must be nice coming on here to see words of more than two syllables.
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I can't understand these Villa fans pretending to be not too bothered about this game, and that it means more to them than us...
Come on... really?
It's massive, and I can't think of a worse feeling in recent years than standing in the away end at the Sty when we lose, having to endure all of them celebrating wildly. I certainly don't want to experience that again next week.
i agree...there is not a worse feeling in the world than losing a derby game....any proper blues or villa fan that say the aint bothered are just lying through there teeth and making there excuses first to try and save face....well i aint having any of it......as for THE SITUATION hes bricking it really and i can see through you.....
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Whilst I have no wish to support a nose on here, I wish some of our fans would just do away with the arrogance and over confidence, it is what did for us back in 2002. I have a horrible feeling about this one, but I hope I am proved wrong. I would just like us to win the game and get out of there alive.
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A nose has posted 81 times on a Villa site? Bloody hell they say we're obsessed with them! I suppose it must be nice coming on here to see words of more than two syllables.
I was going to post something similar. 81 posts on a rival clubs website is extremely sad.
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fao the situation...erm you keep saying blues are favorites but is that you saying it or the bookies??if its the bookies send me a link for some prices to prove it....
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http://www.betbrain.co.uk/football/england/league-cup/birmingham-city-fc-v-aston-villa/
Blues slight favourites.
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http://www.betbrain.co.uk/football/england/league-cup/birmingham-city-fc-v-aston-villa/
Blues slight favourites.
mmmm...might change a little over the week when you get some players back...
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A nose has posted 81 times on a Villa site? Bloody hell they say we're obsessed with them! I suppose it must be nice coming on here to see words of more than two syllables.
I was going to post something similar. 81 posts on a rival clubs website is extremely sad.
Why? What is wrong in engaging in meaningful discussion? See the contributions from the Stoke fans and especially sendo_whu.
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A nose has posted 81 times on a Villa site? Bloody hell they say we're obsessed with them! I suppose it must be nice coming on here to see words of more than two syllables.
I was going to post something similar. 81 posts on a rival clubs website is extremely sad.
Why? What is wrong in engaging in meaningful discussion?
Nothing.
But in which case is there any reason why you haven't taken the conscious decision to go and have nice chats with the folks at KeepRightOn.co.uk?
However nice it is to have meaningful discussion with supporters of other clubs, it's still a stretch to then go and sign up to another forum to indulge in it.
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Playing with a weakened team which involves young lads, playing at the Sty with our away record being crap - it really wouldn't disappoint me that much if we lost, I certainly wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Just for shits and giggles I might just do a media blackout for 2 hours and then turn on Sky Sports after the game has ended just to see if there is a surprised smile on my face or if there's a shrug of the shoulders whilst muttering 'damn'.
Serious question, which game means more to which set of fans and which fans will be more disappointed if there team loses? Like I said, the blosers would be put on suicide watch if they lose to a bunch of 'Vile kids' at the sty.
I just hope the manager and players don't feel the same way.
Beating Blues would be another step on the road to Wembley and the chance to actually win something okay just a League cup but it is a trophy. There is something to play for here. I cannot believe any Villa fan would reject the chance of a Semi final possibly leading to a trophy. The fact it is against THEM is an extra bit sweeter if we win. This is more meaningful than some shitty league game against Blackburn or Wigan just by virtue of it being a quarter final. We are not Man Yoo or Arsenal and cannot and should not turn our nose up at a trophy.
He may be so very, very wrong in his choice of team but sheldon is right in that it matters a lot to both fans by being a derby AND a quarter final.
I think Blues are the favourites due to our injuries and their home advantage but with all our players fit it would be the other way round.
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How would you know which forums/fora(?) I have signed up to? I contribute (sparingly) to others. Walsall, for example.
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
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How would you know which forums/fora(?) I have signed up to? I contribute (sparingly) to others. Walsall, for example.
Fair enough.
If you don't, any reason keeprighton.co.uk isn't one of them?
Or say, a Wolves forum. If you don't contribute to any of them.
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A nose has posted 81 times on a Villa site? Bloody hell they say we're obsessed with them! I suppose it must be nice coming on here to see words of more than two syllables.
I was going to post something similar. 81 posts on a rival clubs website is extremely sad.
Why? What is wrong in engaging in meaningful discussion? See the contributions from the Stoke fans and especially sendo_whu.
There's a slight difference. Stoke and West Ham don't hate us with a passion. Their lads contribute to the site on various football topics, rather than just coming on here and calling some of our poster's armchair supporters.
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We're going to achieve nothing in the league other than survival, we're not going to trouble the top 6 and maybe not even the top half, so this game is huge even though some people think they/we are too big to consider it so. Imo we'll be around the bottom 3 over christmas but if we've got a semi final to look forward to it will soften the blow, however if we're near the bottom 3 and we're out of the cup at the hands of small heath it will be very depressing. Fuck the league, i'd settle for a bottom half finish and a win over Small Heath and go on to win the cup.
Christ you're dull.
I'm so dull you took the time out to read my post, then quote it and reply. Christ you're thick.
I must be dense to have bothered reading your repetitive whinge when I was already aware of how inanely morose and dull it was going to be. Do us all a favour and shut up moaning, you whinging oik.
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Nice to see some 'I know you are; what am I?' type insults from BCV. Takes me back to primary school.
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Nice to see some 'I know you are; what am I?' type insults from BCV. Takes me back to primary school.
Something tells me it wasn't a happy childhood.
Maybe he was working in one of Woodhall's workhouses in Great Bridge?
please sir, can I stand up?
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Nice to see some 'I know you are; what am I?' type insults from BCV. Takes me back to primary school.
Something tells me it wasn't a happy childhood.
Maybe he was working in one of Woodhall's workhouses in Great Bridge?
please sir, can I stand up?
haha, love it.
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
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Meh, maybe it's just me then. I personally don't have a problem with BCFC as a club - I just view them as little, joke club who have no history and are insignificant to the football world... it's their fans that just p*ss me off when they spout bullshit about our Club and Fans just because they know they're inferior in every aspect to us i.e. support, success, history, talent, stadium. At the end of the day, if we lose no biggie, they'll always be insignificant small heath and we'll always be the Mighty Villa - 1 result doesn't change that. It'll be annoying if we lose but I've got more important things in my life to be upset about... they're playing an inexperienced and weakened team, that's why they're the favourites and that is why if they lose I know there will be lots of "We couldn't beat Vile kids" threads on SHA Forum which I will lol @. I'm not 'pretending to not care', no-one knows me so I thinks it's unfair to say stuff like I'm pretending to not care, I just care a bit less than some other Villa fans - it's not a crime, it's just me and how I view football and sport in general.
It's still gonna be a close game though and there can be only winner - question is, who wants it more? Will Mcleish play defensive football as usual being cautious of our quick players on the break or will he make it open? Hopefully Reo-Coker will be in the side for next week, I think Bannan will play much better with Coker next to him with an experienced leader... that might mean Hogg might be benched but that's not because he hasn't played well - because he has. Ireland better be up for this, if not we might as well play Pires.
Have fun watching the cricket Sheldon, if England can win in Brisbane I think we'll be getting a stronger scent of those dusty ashes...
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We're going to achieve nothing in the league other than survival, we're not going to trouble the top 6 and maybe not even the top half, so this game is huge even though some people think they/we are too big to consider it so. Imo we'll be around the bottom 3 over christmas but if we've got a semi final to look forward to it will soften the blow, however if we're near the bottom 3 and we're out of the cup at the hands of small heath it will be very depressing. Fuck the league, i'd settle for a bottom half finish and a win over Small Heath and go on to win the cup.
Christ you're dull.
I'm so dull you took the time out to read my post, then quote it and reply. Christ you're thick.
I must be dense to have bothered reading your repetitive whinge when I was already aware of how inanely morose and dull it was going to be. Do us all a favour and shut up moaning, you whinging oik.
You know what i've deleted this comment because it's not worth it. You carry on pretending to be a hard man impressing your little friends on here with little insults and by telling me to shut up and if you don't like what i've got to say then don't read it.
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Given that Blose are playing way above their station and, as such, are no longer eligible to play in competitions that they have a (slim) chance of winning, will their manager - I forget his name - be in a position where he's forced to resign should Villa win?
Let me explain my thoughts. There's little that Blose can win...they've absolutely no chance of being league champions, getting into Europe is a dream too far, let alone winning anything in it and the FA Cup is far to prestigious a competition (even these days) to have the words 'Birmingham City' on the winners list.
So that leaves them with the League Cup. That's really it. Apart from that (and I guess beating Villa a few times in the average lifetime), there's no other point to their existance. So failure at this stage of the competition - at home, with a full squad and a full house,tagainst a hated opposition crippled by injures and playing inexperienced youth - would surely spell out to even the most illiterate of noses that the end of the road has, in fact, been reached.
The only face-saving option will be to offload the manager and start all over again.
No?
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Pretending to be hard? What has that got to do with anything?
I am just like nigh on every other poster on here; bored to tears by your constant whinging and moaning.
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
marston green born though.......your a plastic aren't you...
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Hello Sheldon, What sort of team do you think Blues will play? Full strength?
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yeh!!!! maybe nathan redmond will play as well,hes only 16 but a good kid he will defo be on the bench anyway...
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I can't remember the last player that made it through the Blues academy.
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yeh!!!! maybe nathan redmond will play as well,hes only 16 but a good kid he will defo be on the bench anyway...
Never heard of him. Is he a striker?
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
marston green born though.......your a plastic aren't you...
Ahh yes - Marston Green in Solihull. Another non Brummie Bluenose!
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I can't remember the last player that made it through the Blues academy.
andy johnson i think...
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I can't remember the last player that made it through the Blues academy.
andy johnson i think...
Luton academy. Nice try though.
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
marston green born though.......your a plastic aren't you...
Ahh yes - Marston Green in Solihull. Another non Brummie Bluenose!
When he says 'Marston Green', he really means 'Chelmsley Wood', the oik :P
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
marston green born though.......your a plastic aren't you...
Ahh yes - Marston Green in Solihull. Another non Brummie Bluenose!
When he says 'Marston Green', he really means 'Chelmsley Wood', the oik :P
Ha ha! Either way he still ain't a Brummie!
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solihull is brum its got a B postcode.....thats good enough for me...
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solihull is brum its got a B postcode.....thats good enough for me...
West Brom's got a B postcode........
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solihull is brum its got a B postcode.....thats good enough for me...
So have Redditch, Bromsgove, Halesowen, West Bromwich...
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solihull is brum its got a B postcode.....thats good enough for me...
So have Redditch, Bromsgove, Halesowen, West Bromwich...
Add Tamworth to that list.
Face it, Bluenose, a Brummie you aint.
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changing the subject, but did you notice the time of your last post, Chris?
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Chico, are you one of them there numerologists? Ya daft Babylonian.
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A B postcode? So what, Henley-in-Arden in Brum is it, Stratford on avon in Cov? No I don't think so.
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Surely we are favourites for this one, we have a team littered with England internationals and finished top 6 last 3 years running, let's not pretend it would be a great big achievement for little old Villa to beat the mighty Blues next week, we damn well should be. Yes we have players out, but we have Gabby, Ash, Downing, Carew, Ireland, Pires, Bannan, who do they have to really hurt us going forward? Hleb maybe, but he's out of form.
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Problem is that we find it difficult to break these kinds of sides down. I can see the game going to pens.
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Whats our away record like? Whats their home record like?
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solihull is brum its got a B postcode.....thats good enough for me...
i dont think the silhillians think its part of brum
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I can't remember the last player that made it through the Blues academy.
andy johnson i think...
Even if that is true then you're looking at 10-15 years ago?
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Surely we are favourites for this one, we have a team littered with England internationals and finished top 6 last 3 years running, let's not pretend it would be a great big achievement for little old Villa to beat the mighty Blues next week, we damn well should be. Yes we have players out, but we have Gabby, Ash, Downing, Carew, Ireland, Pires, Bannan, who do they have to really hurt us going forward? Hleb maybe, but he's out of form.
good point mate...yep i think you are favorites in my eyes......
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solihull is brum
Is it bollocks.
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Surely we are favourites for this one, we have a team littered with England internationals and finished top 6 last 3 years running, let's not pretend it would be a great big achievement for little old Villa to beat the mighty Blues next week, we damn well should be. Yes we have players out, but we have Gabby, Ash, Downing, Carew, Ireland, Pires, Bannan, who do they have to really hurt us going forward? Hleb maybe, but he's out of form.
good point mate...yep i think you are favorites in my eyes......
Now who's getting his excuses in early!
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hes right though thinking about it you are littered with internationals...
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i forgot about pires as well.....your biggest signing in the history of aston villa as gabby says....
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/25/gabby-agbonlahor-rates-robert-pires-as-biggest-name-signing-in-aston-villa-s-history-97319-27712146/2/
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i forgot about pires as well.....your biggest signing in the history of aston villa as gabby says....
http://www.birminghammail.net/birmingham-sport/aston-villa-fc/aston-villa-news/2010/11/25/gabby-agbonlahor-rates-robert-pires-as-biggest-name-signing-in-aston-villa-s-history-97319-27712146/2/
He doesn't say that though, does he? Not that I expect a knuckledragger to be able to read.
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To be fair I think you'll struggle to find any Villa fan who would claim that Gabby might be in line for a Nobel prize.
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To be fair I think you'll struggle to find any Villa fan who would claim that Gabby might be in line for a Nobel prize.
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he aint no bamber gascoigne pal thats for sure.....
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He's brighter than you though...
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He's brighter than you though...
To be fair I think you'll struggle to find any Villa fan who would claim that Gabby might be in line for a Nobel prize.
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he aint no bamber gascoigne pal thats for sure.....
Check Socrates out.
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To be fair I think you'll struggle to find any Villa fan who would claim that Gabby might be in line for a Nobel prize.
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he aint no bamber gascoigne pal thats for sure.....
Perhaps not, but boy does he get to the Bluenoses though. Must be all those late winners he keeps scoring past them.
And he's fit for Wednesday too!
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present
Have they dropped Ireland's wages then? About time, the lazy fecker!
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
He probably wouldn't give a shit to be fair.
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
I don't know, perhaps he could lend them a few quid. He might also point out if you describe a crisis as "current" then there really is no need to add "at present", that proper nouns should start with a capital letter and there are only two rs in current.
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
I couldn't give a fuck what Gabby's thoughts are on anything other than Villa.
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Yes, Gabby is thick, but McLeish is probably thicker, as he's not yet worked out a way to stop him scoring goals against you.
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Eh? What on earth has Gabby done to provoke noses who know no better than just abuse players? Has he ran over to the Blose fans and made the 'wanker' gesture, has he lifted his shirt up which reads "Shit on the City", has he ever celebrated in front of the noses when he's scored against them lots of times?
He's done nothing to deserve any abuse, unlike Stephen Carr and Paul Tait... losers, Villa fans would probably have to think twice about who they actually are. Keep up with the abuse noses, the more you abuse him, the more he scores against you. Don't you get it?
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Can't wait until wee barry bannan outjumps zigic to put us 1 up in the last min in front of the railway :D
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
No idea, but I've heard that his spelling, grammar and apostrophe usage are all spot on.
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The word "gabbys" contains two errors. It is a proper noun and should start with a capital G, and it is possessive and should have an apostrophe: Gabby's.
What school in Solihull did you go to?
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While we are on the subject, the plural of economy is economies.
Cheers.
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
marston green born though.......your a plastic aren't you...
Ahh yes - Marston Green in Solihull. Another non Brummie Bluenose!
But Marston Green IS in Birmingham isn't it? So that would make him a Brummie......maybe Percy could clarify, as he's from close to there.
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anyway chaps nice speaking to you but im off up the old wooden hill to get tucked up and ready to watch the ashes....c,mon you poms......we are going to do it over there i tell you.....
You're Welsh aren't you?
marston green born though.......your a plastic aren't you...
Ahh yes - Marston Green in Solihull. Another non Brummie Bluenose!
But Marston Green IS in Birmingham isn't it? So that would make him a Brummie......maybe Percy could clarify, as he's from close to there.
Marston Green was in Birmingham, not any more though.
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It's in Solihull, which would make him a non Brummie.
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
Erm thats an odd sweeping statement if ever ive heard one.....now why would i ever sing a racist song??? you dont even know me.....very odd comment....
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It's in Solihull, which would make him a non Brummie.
Depends if he was born there before it was given over to Solihull i suppose.
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I'm confused, I was born in Marston Green when it was in Birmingham, am I a brummie or is it that I used to be one?
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
Erm thats an odd sweeping statement if ever ive heard one.....now why would i ever sing a racist song??? you dont even know me.....very odd comment....
What about the song that claims his Mother is a whore, will you be singing that one?
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
Erm thats an odd sweeping statement if ever ive heard one.....now why would i ever sing a racist song??? you dont even know me.....very odd comment....
What about the song that claims his Mother is a whore, will you be singing that one?
listen im going to cut this short, as i dont what to talk about race or that song! its a football thread and they are to hot a topics to talk about so dont even waste your time in trying to get me to bite as you are wasting your time.....jog on.......
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
Erm thats an odd sweeping statement if ever ive heard one.....now why would i ever sing a racist song??? you dont even know me.....very odd comment....
What about the song that claims his Mother is a whore, will you be singing that one?
listen im going to cut this short, as i dont what to talk about race or that song! its a football thread and they are to hot a topics to talk about so dont even waste your time in trying to get me to bite as you are wasting your time.....jog on.......
Is that a yes then?
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
Erm thats an odd sweeping statement if ever ive heard one.....now why would i ever sing a racist song??? you dont even know me.....very odd comment....
What about the song that claims his Mother is a whore, will you be singing that one?
listen im going to cut this short, as i dont what to talk about race or that song! its a football thread and they are to hot a topics to talk about so dont even waste your time in trying to get me to bite as you are wasting your time.....jog on.......
Is that a yes then?
ffs..you just dont know when to stop do you or call it a day saunders......
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Let's keep it to nice, pleasant jocularity, shall we?
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He's brighter than you though...
I wonder what gabbys thoughts are on the currrent financial crisis gripping ireland at present and the state of other economys in the euro zone....
Will you lot be singing your racist song about him on Wednesday?
Erm thats an odd sweeping statement if ever ive heard one.....now why would i ever sing a racist song??? you dont even know me.....very odd comment....
What about the song that claims his Mother is a whore, will you be singing that one?
listen im going to cut this short, as i dont what to talk about race or that song! its a football thread and they are to hot a topics to talk about so dont even waste your time in trying to get me to bite as you are wasting your time.....jog on.......
Is that a yes then?
ffs..you just dont know when to stop do you or call it a day saunders......
Yeah a bit like when were asking me, "are you scared", earlier in the thread.
If you can't take it don't dish it out, and all that. ;-)
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A nose with 98 posts here - crikey, we're becoming the new 'peoples club' - taking it away from Everton !
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I'm confused, I was born in Marston Green when it was in Birmingham, am I a brummie or is it that I used to be one?
If you are born in England and move to spain to work, you don't become Spanish do you. :D
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A nose with 98 posts here - crikey, we're becoming the new 'peoples club' - taking it away from Everton !
I'm surprised Blues never thought of that phrase before Everton did. Perhaps all the smaller clubs in big cities should adopt that tag line. They all seem to have a chip on their shoulder after all.
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I'm confused, I was born in Marston Green when it was in Birmingham, am I a brummie or is it that I used to be one?
If you are born in England and move to spain to work, you don't become Spanish do you. :D
Well, you have siestas, so yes you do ;)
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I'm confused, I was born in Marston Green when it was in Birmingham, am I a brummie or is it that I used to be one?
If you are born in England and move to spain to work, you don't become Spanish do you. :D
Kevin Pietersen became English.
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My mates parents are English, but he was born in Germany as his folks lived there for a short time, but within a month of being born the family came back to England and he's not been back to Germany since. He's not German though as far as I'm concerned.
If you were born in Marston Green only a very short time before it switched to Solihull your Brummy status is questionable, unless of course you then moved to Brum. I wouldn't have thought Marston Green was part of Brum for very long, as it must have been a village in Warwickshire I guess for a long time to begin with before it was drawn into the bounds of the city, but I am only guessing.
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What about anybody born at Good Hope Hospital before 1974? As the main North B'ham hospital I would imagine a fair proportion of over 36's were born there from the North of the City? (I'm one of them). Does that make me a non-Brummie?
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what happens if you were born in china because your mom and dad worked there for a bit for the u.k.government.....does that make you chinese????
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what happens if you were born in china because your mom and dad worked there for a bit for the u.k.government.....does that make you chinese????
No, anybody born in China is a Brummie. The Brummies have taken over China as predicted by you lot with almost all their citizens wearing Blues shirts since the arrival of that hairdresser in Bordesley.
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what happens if you were born in china because your mom and dad worked there for a bit for the u.k.government.....does that make you chinese????
No, anybody born in China is a Brummie. The Brummies have taken over China as predicted by you lot with almost all their citizens wearing Blues shirts since the arrival of that hairdresser in Bordesley.
Snigger
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My missus worked in China for a month recently - Beijing - and the locals are still rather ambivalent towards English football. Of those that are the main clubs are the ones that you'd guess - Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea. oh, and guess which little club they'd heard of? Yep, Aston Villa. Guess which one they hadn't? Well, no point telling them.
As for the game itself - to reiterate for those that questioned it a few pages back - I want us to win. naturally. i really would prefer not to lose to them, but more because it will make them happier than ity will make us distraught. I'd rather they were always in the doldrums. But, there's no tension for me in the build up, there's no all or nothing about it, there's no bottom falling out of my world at the thought of losing.
i want to win, don't want them to, but if the worse happens then we've got a game on the following Saturday that's going to help me forget any defeat.
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I was born in Small Heath. I don't like this conversation.
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My missus worked in China for a month recently - Beijing - and the locals are still rather ambivalent towards English football. Of those that are the main clubs are the ones that you'd guess - Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea. oh, and guess which little club they'd heard of? Yep, Aston Villa. Guess which one they hadn't? Well, no point telling them.
As for the game itself - to reiterate for those that questioned it a few pages back - I want us to win. naturally. i really would prefer not to lose to them, but more because it will make them happier than ity will make us distraught. I'd rather they were always in the doldrums. But, there's no tension for me in the build up, there's no all or nothing about it, there's no bottom falling out of my world at the thought of losing.
i want to win, don't want them to, but if the worse happens then we've got a game on the following Saturday that's going to help me forget any defeat.
they would know where birmingham is mate without doubt......they would not have a clue that aston villa is a birmingham club though.......
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Pat Macmahon from here was telling me just this week that he drinks in a Villa-themed bar in Shanghai.
Well, a bar with a couple of Villa flags hanging up at least.
And nobody he's ever met out there has ever heard of Blues. Then again, he's only lived there for the last 3 years and he only goes out every night of the week, talking to different locals every night about football
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What's this racist Gabby song?
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My missus worked in China for a month recently - Beijing - and the locals are still rather ambivalent towards English football. Of those that are the main clubs are the ones that you'd guess - Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea. oh, and guess which little club they'd heard of? Yep, Aston Villa. Guess which one they hadn't? Well, no point telling them.
As for the game itself - to reiterate for those that questioned it a few pages back - I want us to win. naturally. i really would prefer not to lose to them, but more because it will make them happier than ity will make us distraught. I'd rather they were always in the doldrums. But, there's no tension for me in the build up, there's no all or nothing about it, there's no bottom falling out of my world at the thought of losing.
i want to win, don't want them to, but if the worse happens then we've got a game on the following Saturday that's going to help me forget any defeat.
they would know where birmingham is mate without doubt......they would not have a clue that aston villa is a birmingham club though.......
It wouldn't take them long to work out who the biggest & most successful club in Birmingham is though. Never fear.
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Not sure about China but they've certainly heard about them in Afghanistan....
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa178/Brendunne/WhyweareinAfghanastan.jpg)
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What about anybody born at Good Hope Hospital before 1974? As the main North B'ham hospital I would imagine a fair proportion of over 36's were born there from the North of the City? (I'm one of them). Does that make me a non-Brummie?
Sutton is Birmingham though, if it isn't they'd better give me my council tax back.
I think it was the Duke of Wellington who said 'If a dog is born in a stable it does not make him a horse', although I'm not sure what that adds to the row.
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Lee was born in Birmingham.
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What about anybody born at Good Hope Hospital before 1974? As the main North B'ham hospital I would imagine a fair proportion of over 36's were born there from the North of the City? (I'm one of them). Does that make me a non-Brummie?
Sutton is Birmingham though, if it isn't they'd better give me my council tax back.
I think it was the Duke of Wellington who said 'If a dog is born in a stable it does not make him a horse', although I'm not sure what that adds to the row.
The Duke of Wellington was Irish
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But Ireland is in Birmingham, well he certainly will be tomorrow.
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What's this racist Gabby song?
It really became a hit with the noses when they discovered his mother had pro-created with a black man.
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
dont be silly....of course they didnt.....
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
dont be silly....of course they didnt.....
Of course you're right, after all you've followed me by my side all around the world and know who I've come into contact with on my travels.
Serious question Sheldon which I'd like you to answer... what club do you think people have heard of more abroad, Torino or Juventus?
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There's a pretty damn offensive picture doing the rounds featuring Geoff Horsfield and a message aimed a Gabby. Scumbag.
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
dont be silly....of course they didnt.....
Of course you're right, after all you've followed me by my side all around the world and know who I've come into contact with on my travels.
Serious question Sheldon which I'd like you to answer... what club do you think people have heard of more abroad, Torino or Juventus?
Torino of course! the club that suffered a shocking plane crash and wiped out there entire team.....bet you didnt know that did you???see i like to educate you situation as you dont seem the sharpest tool in the box
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Some years ago I spent six months in South America. As you can imagine it's not difficult there to get the conversation around to football. Virtually everyone I met there had heard of Aston Villa. O.K. some of them would not have known that A.V. were from Birmingham. Doesn't matter, they'd heard of us and knew of our huge role in helping to turn football into the world game. They'd never heard of you. It's called "History". You can come out with the usual snide "yes, but what have you won lately." What have you ever won?
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
dont be silly....of course they didnt.....
Of course you're right, after all you've followed me by my side all around the world and know who I've come into contact with on my travels.
Serious question Sheldon which I'd like you to answer... what club do you think people have heard of more abroad, Torino or Juventus?
Although that's not a particulary fair question to put to our friendly resident nose - Torino have after all won seven league titles, five cups and have been to a European final.
If we're the Juventus then it's bit insulting to Torino to make them the Small Heath of the analogy.
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
dont be silly....of course they didnt.....
Of course you're right, after all you've followed me by my side all around the world and know who I've come into contact with on my travels.
Serious question Sheldon which I'd like you to answer... what club do you think people have heard of more abroad, Torino or Juventus?
Torino of course! the club that suffered a shocking plane crash and wiped out there entire team.....bet you didnt know that did you???see i like to educate you situation as you dont seem the sharpest tool in the box
You knew the answer I was looking for was Juventus so then you purpopesly pick Torino? Pathetic.
We're the equivalent to Juventus, successful club and don't have the name of the city whereas Birmingham City are the equivalent to Torino, small club (well, I say small but yet they've still won quite a lot, but aren't quite as big as their neighbours) and has the city's name. Just given you an example their yet you'll still probably dispute it.
All big cities in Britain have 2 good teams in the city... why is it that your pathetic excuse of a club has to ruin it all by being shit and have never won anything?
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There a two clubs in Birmingham; one is one of the most successful clubs in England with a rich history, the other one is well, err... who are they?
I've been to lots of countries in Europe, a few countries in Asia, United States and the Carribean... and I can honestly say no-one who I spoke to knew who Birmingham City were, many knew who Aston Villa were and could name several of our players.
dont be silly....of course they didnt.....
Of course you're right, after all you've followed me by my side all around the world and know who I've come into contact with on my travels.
Serious question Sheldon which I'd like you to answer... what club do you think people have heard of more abroad, Torino or Juventus?
If we're the Juventus then it's bit insulting to Torino to make them the Small Heath of the analogy.
True. Just makes it even more depressing that we have to share the city with them. Atleast win something then we wouldn't have to rip the piss out of you all the time...
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There's a pretty damn offensive picture doing the rounds featuring Geoff Horsfield and a message aimed a Gabby. Scumbag.
What does this sign he's holding say? Tried looking for the picture out of curiousity but instead came across some sickening one on that lot aimed at the villa fan that died.
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Something really witty and original "Gabby Gabby Gabby Agbonlahor his mom's a whore".
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Yep. That's pretty much it.
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Something really witty and original "Gabby Gabby Gabby Agbonlahor his mom's a whore".
Just about sums up that lot.
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Some years ago I spent six months in South America. As you can imagine it's not difficult there to get the conversation around to football. Virtually everyone I met there had heard of Aston Villa. O.K. some of them would not have known that A.V. were from Birmingham. Doesn't matter, they'd heard of us and knew of our huge role in helping to turn football into the world game. They'd never heard of you. It's called "History". You can come out with the usual snide "yes, but what have you won lately." What have you ever won?
I think what really gets to the Noses is that Aston Villa FC is more famous than the city Blues name themselves after.
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
"One more than us??" No no, 1 x 0 is still zero no matter what way you look at it.
Oh and even in the days of so called rush keepers, you lot from the Sty still couldn't win it.
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
Ha ha, typical bluenose wind-up bullshit. Just think though, even when there were 'only about 8 teams' you were just as shit then.
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
"One more than us??" No no, 1 x 0 is still zero no matter what way you look at it.
Oh and even in the days of so called rush keepers, you lot from the Sty still couldn't win it.
ahh you cant count them mate....anyway i prefer to look forward than backwards....
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
"One more than us??" No no, 1 x 0 is still zero no matter what way you look at it.
Oh and even in the days of so called rush keepers, you lot from the Sty still couldn't win it.
ahh you cant count them mate....anyway i prefer to look forward than backwards....
You can't count the '63 LC really, it was only a mickey mouse comp back then, no wembley final, several big teams didn't take part. Why look to the past eh?
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
"One more than us??" No no, 1 x 0 is still zero no matter what way you look at it.
Oh and even in the days of so called rush keepers, you lot from the Sty still couldn't win it.
ahh you cant count them mate....anyway i prefer to look forward than backwards....
I'm not surprised with a 'history' as embarrassing as yours.
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
"One more than us??" No no, 1 x 0 is still zero no matter what way you look at it.
Oh and even in the days of so called rush keepers, you lot from the Sty still couldn't win it.
ahh you cant count them mate....anyway i prefer to look forward than backwards....
You can't count the '63 LC really, it was only a mickey mouse comp back then, no wembley final, several big teams didn't take part. Why look to the past eh?
bloody hell 63 that long ago....cant even remember who we beat in the final......plus i wasnt born...
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
"One more than us??" No no, 1 x 0 is still zero no matter what way you look at it.
Oh and even in the days of so called rush keepers, you lot from the Sty still couldn't win it.
ahh you cant count them mate....anyway i prefer to look forward than backwards....
I'm not surprised with a 'history' as embarrassing as yours.
Plus, is looking forward really going to end happily either?
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situation....you have only won the league once in 110 odd years more than us....i mean for gods sake you cant count 1800s can you as there was only about 8 teams about then.....plus it was just like a kick about in them days over sheldon country park waiting for the cricket season to start...ffs come on mate.....they prob had rush keeper as well....
Well done, good stuff. We will also not talk about attendance differences between us and your lot. Shall we also forget cup wins and league positions. And we really should not talk about our record against your lot over the years. No matter what way you want to measure things you are in our shadow.
Apart from maybe the future. Who knows, your owners may have their overdraft capped and sell to some super rich owner, he might finally build you your superduper stadium. Then buy 25,000 Lucy Love Me dolls off a couple of twats who previously claimed your future was brighter than ours and then claim crowds of 44,000. Bingo, you are the biggest team in Brum. Or you might carry on being shite.
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Sheldon, you sound silly and your trolling and wind-ups are just poor not making anyone angry or upset via teh interwebz. Birmingham City are inferior to Aston Villa in all aspects... support, stadium, history, success, players... just everything so deal with it. I know it, you know and everyone knows it.
I always 'lol' when I hear noses talk about our history in recent years, it's just the equivelant of a Walsall fan trying to 'de-grade' our history and success. The fact Birmingham City have never won anything yet they go on about our history just makes it even more funny!
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Sheldon, you sound silly and your trolling and wind-ups are just poor not making anyone angry or upset via teh interwebz. Birmingham City are inferior to Aston Villa in all aspects... support, stadium, history, success, players... just everything so deal with it. I know it, you know and everyone knows it.
I always 'lol' when I hear noses talk about our history in recent years, it's just the equivelant of a Walsall fan trying to 'de-grade' our history and success. The fact Birmingham City have never won anything yet they go on about our history just makes it even more funny!
lol..... dont worry mate i wont be losing any sleep tonight kid....
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Sheldon, you sound silly and your trolling and wind-ups are just poor not making anyone angry or upset via teh interwebz. Birmingham City are inferior to Aston Villa in all aspects... support, stadium, history, success, players... just everything so deal with it. I know it, you know and everyone knows it.
I always 'lol' when I hear noses talk about our history in recent years, it's just the equivelant of a Walsall fan trying to 'de-grade' our history and success. The fact Birmingham City have never won anything yet they go on about our history just makes it even more funny!
lol..... dont worry mate i wont be losing any sleep tonight kid....
Nice reply to my post... you know it's all true what I said, eh?
How about you make up some myths, that's what Birmingham City fans love doing best isn't it? What about the myth where finishing in a European position most seasons is mid-table and average? Or how about the myth that all Villa fans live outside Birmingham (ironic you noses still go on about this where I read a topic on SHA about most noses living outside of Birmingham)?
You've been saying 'watch out Villains, we're the future' for the last 135 years... my great grandfather, grandfather, father and me are all still waiting. I won't be around for another 135 years so hurry up and stop being shit!
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god you come out with some shite situation..ffs ;D......like i said i wont be losing any sleep....
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Blue Nose? Try F**k Nose, because none of you know f**cking anything!
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Do we even have 11 first team players fit for this game?
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Either we talk sensibly about the match, or we cary on with this pathetic hurling of insults, complete with bans and locked threads. It's up to you.
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Let's keep it to nice, pleasant jocularity, shall we?
Any chance?
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well im off to fulham tomorrow anyway so hope we dont pick up any injuries or red cards....p.s. whats the nearest tube station to the cottage by the way.....
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well im off to fulham tomorrow anyway so hope we dont pick up any injuries or red cards....p.s. whats the nearest tube station to the cottage by the way.....
Putney Bridge. Don't go in the Eight Bells by the station as it always gets crowded. You're better off heading away from the ground onto Putney High Street or the other side of the river.
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well im off to fulham tomorrow anyway so hope we dont pick up any injuries or red cards....p.s. whats the nearest tube station to the cottage by the way.....
Swiss Cottage on the Jubilee Line. It's a great away day, hope you have a nice time.
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well im off to fulham tomorrow anyway so hope we dont pick up any injuries or red cards....p.s. whats the nearest tube station to the cottage by the way.....
Putney Bridge. Don't go in the Eight Bells by the station as it always gets crowded. You're better off heading away from the ground onto Putney High Street or the other side of the river.
point taken
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well im off to fulham tomorrow anyway so hope we dont pick up any injuries or red cards....p.s. whats the nearest tube station to the cottage by the way.....
Swiss Cottage on the Jubilee Line. It's a great away day, hope you have a nice time.
lol...i aint that green mate.....
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well im off to fulham tomorrow anyway so hope we dont pick up any injuries or red cards....p.s. whats the nearest tube station to the cottage by the way.....
Putney Bridge. Don't go in the Eight Bells by the station as it always gets crowded. You're better off heading away from the ground onto Putney High Street or the other side of the river.
The Wetherspoons opposite Putney station was decent.Cheap as chips too
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Bit odd he's made a fair few posts but sheldon_nose seems ok. There's been far worse posters on here (some who are even villa fans).
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He's alright. I think he's one of them that wishes he'd chose the Villa. I know one like that, he admitted it once when at a low ebb.
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Yes, he is. He'd have been banned a long time ago if he was not.
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Its all about education old chap.
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He's alright. I think he's one of them that wishes he'd chose the Villa. I know one like that, he admitted it once when at a low ebb.
haha mate dont think so kid...just got in from fulham and froze my nuts off today.....just watchin the cricket now....what happened to you boys today?good or bad?
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The clue is in the scoreline. It wasn't good.
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He's alright. I think he's one of them that wishes he'd chose the Villa. I know one like that, he admitted it once when at a low ebb.
haha mate dont think so kid...just got in from fulham and froze my nuts off today.....just watchin the cricket now....what happened to you boys today?good or bad?
A bit of both, shit 1st half, better 2nd half. How about your lot?
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Collins is a doubt then, any chance Gabby will be fit?
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Are we the underdogs for this one? Can't remember the last time we were. Puts even more pressure on them if we are.
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He's alright. I think he's one of them that wishes he'd chose the Villa. I know one like that, he admitted it once when at a low ebb.
haha mate dont think so kid...just got in from fulham and froze my nuts off today.....just watchin the cricket now....what happened to you boys today?good or bad?
A bit of both, shit 1st half, better 2nd half. How about your lot?
first half blues done ok i thought plus some good tackles flyin seemed well up for it....second half we was a bit under the cosh really......a 1pt is fair enough i reckon.....really dont know what helb offers us....aint happy with him.....
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I would like to see Villa put some flying tackles in, other than Warnock ;-)
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This'll keep us warm on Wednesday....
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He's alright. I think he's one of them that wishes he'd chose the Villa. I know one like that, he admitted it once when at a low ebb.
haha mate dont think so kid...just got in from fulham and froze my nuts off today.....just watchin the cricket now....what happened to you boys today?good or bad?
A bit of both, shit 1st half, better 2nd half. How about your lot?
first half blues done ok i thought plus some good tackles flyin seemed well up for it....second half we was a bit under the cosh really......a 1pt is fair enough i reckon.....really dont know what helb offers us....aint happy with him.....
Didn't he set up the goal?
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he did set up our goal to be honest...but thats the only thing hes done since hes landed at blues....
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Does he play better on the wing or just behind Jerome? I gotta say I barely noticed Hleb was even playing at Villa Park a few weeks ago.
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he trys to play behind jerome i think...hes not doing it for me im afraid....
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My missus worked in China for a month recently - Beijing - and the locals are still rather ambivalent towards English football. Of those that are the main clubs are the ones that you'd guess - Man u, Liverpool, Chelsea. oh, and guess which little club they'd heard of? Yep, Aston Villa. Guess which one they hadn't? Well, no point telling them.
As for the game itself - to reiterate for those that questioned it a few pages back - I want us to win. naturally. i really would prefer not to lose to them, but more because it will make them happier than ity will make us distraught. I'd rather they were always in the doldrums. But, there's no tension for me in the build up, there's no all or nothing about it, there's no bottom falling out of my world at the thought of losing.
i want to win, don't want them to, but if the worse happens then we've got a game on the following Saturday that's going to help me forget any defeat.
they would know where birmingham is mate without doubt......they would not have a clue that aston villa is a birmingham club though.......
wouldn't disagree with that necessarily. But we're not talking about cities. They wouldn't know where Everton are from either but that is not what we're talking about. They don't follow football (Prem) in China save the few who like football. You lot being owned by a Hong Kong businessman is not going to make a blind bit of difference. Unless you win things, are a prominent Prem League team, or have a history that people know about they won't care. To a degree we tick those boxes for a lot of Chinese football fans - not that they support us - just that they know who we are.
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Still 300 tickets left.
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Still 300 tickets left.
That is piss poor.