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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on September 24, 2023, 04:00:31 PM
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6th. 2 points a game.
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All good.
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Get in!
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Great stuff. Fuckers fucked.
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Great result.
6th despite 4 aways and just 2 games at home.
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We win and meltdown averted! Nice one villa.
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I love Unai Emery, f**king love him!!!!!!
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How to age 11 years in 11 minutes.
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First away win of the season, get in you Villa boys!
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Nice one: points away from home! Pleased for Ollie.
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First away win of the season, get in you Villa boys!
Second
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Mystic Meg not Mystic Mug 8)
See. Told you nothing to worry about with regards the defence. Massive overreaction in the week. We're better than some give us credit for. Unai knows what he's doing. We were never gonna lose today.
Well done to the team.
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Konsa was fucking immense.
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First away win of the season, get in you Villa boys!
Yeah Burnley hardly counts 😉
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First away win of the season, get in you Villa boys!
Erm Burnley?
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First away win of the season, get in you Villa boys!
Second. Burnley.
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First away win of the season, get in you Villa boys!
Second. Burnley.
It’s the heady excitement of lunchtime beer and then the Villa!
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
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Needed that. Konsa was brilliant as was Kamara. Great to see Watkins score.
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Textbook from Emery. Isn't it wonderful to have a world class coach at the helm for first time in decades?
Just get to 0-0 and wait for Chelsea to implode. Textbook 3 points.
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You will see a different Villa team on Sunday of that I am certain.
Well said Smirker 8)
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Perfect. A great win and Ollie back in the goals.
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If Burnley doesn't count because they're shit, then neither does this! :)
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Villa win. Chelsea making up the numbers, just like they've done for most of their history.
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Luiz was back to his best too/
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Didn’t look pretty but 3 points.
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Winning when you're not really at it? Great.
Let's hope Ollie fires now, I'd start him on Weds.
Abominable reffing though, the added time is just made up and bears no relation to the actual game.
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Never in doubt ;)
Enjoy the rest of your weekend boys, UTV!
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
As the song goes, I feel good!
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It might feel like this season has been a bit wishy washy, but we’re 6th in the league and still in all the cups
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Great. 3 points away and a clean sheat. Well done Villa.
UTV.
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
WTF??!!!??
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
No you don't was my response.
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I yelled ' fucking hell Watkins!' when the first shot hit the defender. I should do that more often.
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Chance to go 4th next Saturday.
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Their keeper was their MOTM, fully deserved 3 points against bottom 6 offside wankers.
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Lee Hendrie can GF
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Their keeper was their MOTM, fully deserved 3 points against bottom 6 offside wankers.
Roy Keane accent
IT’S HIS JOB.
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Good result. The manner of play does not inspire great confidence for future away trips, but one game at a time an In Unai We Trust.
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
No you don't was my response.
I thought he was just trying to balance the fact that he had got so excited when we scored, and showed his Villa bias throughout.
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Chance to go 4th next Saturday.
Beat Brighton 5-0 and we can go third!
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We've got a better manager than Chelsea and they go fuck themselves. Hopefully, their twat of an owner will be throwing crockery round the dressing room again this afternoon.
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A fitting result against a long ball side seemingly reliant on "a little bit of magic".
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A fitting result against a long ball side seemingly reliant on "a little bit of magic".
Shouldn’t teams like this murder us ?
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
No you don't was my response.
I thought he was just trying to balance the fact that he had got so excited when we scored, and showed his Villa bias throughout.
Ah well that’s fair enough I suppose.
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Tough game but their keeper kept score down.
Also Martinez couple of great saves.
Konsa,Kamarra, and Luiz excellent
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Kamara my motm, Konsa not far behind - quite the turn around from Legia.
The away fans were outstanding too, could hear them on the tv throughout the game.
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Doug MOTM for but Konsa was great as well.
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Reading the comments on the BBC match report is pure comedy gold. Perhaps Chelsea should consider having the Samaritans as their shirt sponsor?
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Pleased with that, you cannot afford to drop too many points against sides that make up the numbers in this league. Lets start beating some of the bigger teams now.
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
I've never heard more biased commentary, even when England's or Germany's playing. Even Mrs. GJ, who came in with 15 minutes to go mentioned it. An absolute fucking disgrace from whoever it was. Jackie Oakley?
Good win and I thought we looked more comfortable than some a suggesting.
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Kamara my motm, Konsa not far behind - quite the turn around from Legia.
The away fans were outstanding too, could hear them on the tv throughout the game.
Have Chelsea home fans got a no singing policy?
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Over a billion on transfers recently and that's the shite they serve up.
35 league games, 30 points.
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I yelled ' fucking hell Watkins!' when the first shot hit the defender. I should do that more often.
You were not alone!
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Didn’t see the game was watching my lad play, kept up with the score though
Absolutely terrific win
I told you we would concede because of our weak defence 😀
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Three points! Some good performances from players that plenty were calling to be dropped. credit to the lads for raising their game; Kamara, Digne, Emi even Watkins. MOTM Konza. Well done Unai for getting his tactics right, the defence looked far more protected compared to recent games.
Special mention to our fans - loud and proud. It sounded more like a home game.
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Over a billion on transfers recently and that's the shite they serve up.
35 league games, 30 points.
That's their form over 35 games? Wow they're even worse than I thought. They're legitimately a relegation fighting team.
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Always love beating those classless counts. A new guy at work earlier in the year said supporting Villa was pointless. He was a Chelsea fan and in the last two meetings that's exactly how Chelsea have finished..... pointless.
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
I've never heard more biased commentary, even when England's or Germany's playing. Even Mrs. GJ, who came in with 15 minutes to go mentioned it. An absolute fucking disgrace from whoever it was. Jackie Oakley?
Good win and I thought we looked more comfortable than some a suggesting.
She supports Wolves.
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Deserved it. Ref was useless. Kamara back to his old self. Wish he would release the ball quicker sometimes though. Great to have Jacob back in the fray. They all played their part today and Watkins getting the winning goal is crucial for his confidence.
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Answered some of the recent criticisms today:
Fine goal from Ollie, a win on the road, Kamara excellent, high line worked well. Utv
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Kamara sitting deeper today and had his best performance of the season, Ollie off it for most of the game, but then gets a shot in the arm with a great finish and goal, defence also looking good.
Hopefully, we can get over the setback of the early season injuries and push on now.
LOVE beating this lot! UTV!
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Kamara my motm, Konsa not far behind - quite the turn around from Legia.
The away fans were outstanding too, could hear them on the tv throughout the game.
Have Chelsea home fans got a no singing policy?
You'd think so...the only song I heard from them was the incredibly ironic "Your support is shit" :)
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Over a billion on transfers recently and that's the shite they serve up.
35 league games, 30 points.
That's their form over 35 games? Wow they're even worse than I thought. They're legitimately a relegation fighting team.
They've won 5 league games in the whole of 2023. We won that number just in April.
Potter won three of those aswell.
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We’ve got so many options now. JJ coming back is a big plus.
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Great response after the dreadful performance in midweek. Kamara was back to his best. I worry about Digne defensively. He got beaten easily a few times and part of it is I don't know if he's got the legs to do 90 minutes 3 times a week. We need Moreno back in the mix soon to rotate.
Clean sheet though and the scoreline probably should have been a bit wider.
Good god though, Chelsea are dreadful. After watching United yesterday (shite) too, I'm convinced we should have no fears about targeting finishing above either this season.
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I wonder if Lampard is sat waiting for the call to save them again.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
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We’ve got so many options now. JJ coming back is a big plus.
Hopefully Moreno hasn't had a setback. Two unused sub games and not even on the bench today.
He'd have been ideal for that last half hour after the red and Chelsea deciding not to play an RB.
Digne had so much space but he's one that checks back when he receives the ball, Moreno much better overlapping.
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We did what we needed to today. The sending off helped especially as we never seem to get decisions like that go for us against Sky's usual suspects.
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6th with 4 away games and not playing particularly well. A satisfactory start to the season.
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Superb response after Thursday. Konsa my motm and Ramsey back on it is a joy to see.
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I didn't see the match or even follow match thread though it seems a few who owed us a performance delivered today.
Clean sheet after shipping so many away goals this season is a massive plus. Well done Ollie for stepping up now he has more competition.
How did the other who have not delivered much Pau, Digne and Kamara do?
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Good god though, Chelsea are dreadful. After watching United yesterday (shite) too, I'm convinced we should have no fears about targeting finishing above either this season.
If we don't finish above Chelsea, we're probably in a relegation fight.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
Jackie Oadley usually seems OK but today was like Chelsea TV.
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Great performance today.
Very well organised by Emery.
Sending off changed the game but was deserved.
Justifies the midweek selection IMHO - Premier League so important to us!
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4 wins from 6 in the league - great run of fixtures coming up (Brighton aside - will be tough). We’re gonna get better too. Kamara and Konsa at their best today.
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Excellent much better but obviously we have room for improvement.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
And stated that Chelsea had to play with 10 for “over an hour”.
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Lovely. Watched the game by the pool in Alghero. After a superb little 46 miler on the bike from Stintino. Nice.
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12 points very satisfactory. In the old days we'd draw games and get comfort from not losing. We rarely draw under Emery which means winning games and losing the odd one means we are better off position and points wise. I wonder how long it took to get 12 pts last season....i bet it wasn't until Emery came in.
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Excellent much better but obviously we have room for improvement.
True. But we have lost key players.
Good to see JJ back and Ollie get a goal. All is good.
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That injury time was a real struggle, ballsy offside line after 110mins! Great result, performance a bit mixed especially after we went ahead. Correct decision for the red card. Tielemans lively cameo, rest of the subs less so.
Martinez 8 - fast off line and a few excellent saves
Cash 7 - very solid in the main but struggled with Chilwell
Konsa 8 - back to his best today
Torres 7 - much better with no clangers
Digne 7 - average first half but much better after he got the smash on his nose
Kamara 7 - excellent first half but quieter after break
Luiz 8 - very good again, set pieces a bit off but class on ball at times
McGinn 6 - running on empty a bit currently but won some good tackles
Zaniolo 6 - brilliant shot forced a cracking save, quiet second half
Diaby 4 - anonymous in first half and a bit of a stinker in second
Watkins 6 - as per Diaby until the goal!
Tielemans was lively in his cameo showing much more aggression, rest of them were poor, Emery far from impressed with Duran
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I didn't see the match or even follow match thread though it seems a few who owed us a performance delivered today.
Clean sheet after shipping so many away goals this season is a massive plus. Well done Ollie for stepping up now he has more competition.
How did the other who have not delivered much Pau, Digne and Kamara do?
Bit harsh on Pau & Digne that.
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12 points very satisfactory. In the old days we'd draw games and get comfort from not losing. We rarely draw under Emery which means winning games and losing the odd one means we are better off position and points wise. I wonder how long it took to get 12 pts last season....i bet it wasn't until Emery came in.
We had 12 when he came in after 13 games in October.
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I was concerned about today so really pleased to get a good results and 3 points.
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12 points very satisfactory. In the old days we'd draw games and get comfort from not losing. We rarely draw under Emery which means winning games and losing the odd one means we are better off position and points wise. I wonder how long it took to get 12 pts last season....i bet it wasn't until Emery came in.
I think it was when Danks came in.
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Maintain the ratio of points hes picked up since October and we are in for one hell of a season.
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12 points very satisfactory. In the old days we'd draw games and get comfort from not losing. We rarely draw under Emery which means winning games and losing the odd one means we are better off position and points wise. I wonder how long it took to get 12 pts last season....i bet it wasn't until Emery came in.
The game Aaron Danks was in charge for - the 4-0 win against Brentford - took us to 12 points on 23rd October after 12 games.
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All that travel and burden of playing UECL match in Poland on Thursday told on us. Lucky for Chelsea that Pochettino had the luxury of full week to prepare. No wonder they contained it to a respectable narrow defeat.
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Lovely. Watched the game by the pool in Alghero. After a superb little 46 miler on the bike from Stintino. Nice.
Did you get to La Pelosa ? Beautiful area.
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Villa win. Chelsea making up the numbers, just like they've done for most of their history.
Routine big club win against the 7th best club in London relegation fodder.
Finding it hard to get excited about this sort of game.
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That injury time was a real struggle, ballsy offside line after 110mins! Great result, performance a bit mixed especially after we went ahead. Correct decision for the red card. Tielemans lively cameo, rest of the subs less so.
Martinez 8 - fast off line and a few excellent saves
Cash 7 - very solid in the main but struggled with Chilwell
Konsa 8 - back to his best today
Torres 7 - much better with no clangers
Digne 7 - average first half but much better after he got the smash on his nose
Kamara 7 - excellent first half but quieter after break
Luiz 8 - very good again, set pieces a bit off but class on ball at times
McGinn 6 - running on empty a bit currently but won some good tackles
Zaniolo 6 - brilliant shot forced a cracking save, quiet second half
Diaby 4 - anonymous in first half and a bit of a stinker in second
Watkins 6 - as per Diaby until the goal!
Tielemans was lively in his cameo showing much more aggression, rest of them were poor, Emery far from impressed with Duran
You have McGinn on the same mark as Zaniolo???
Diaby on 4, what? He wasn’t his best but a 4?
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Mystic Meg not Mystic Mug 8)
See. Told you nothing to worry about with regards the defence. Massive overreaction in the week. We're better than some give us credit for. Unai knows what he's doing. We were never gonna lose today.
Well done to the team.
Been a massive over reaction since the start of the season. Here we are, 6th, 4 wins from 6 (with losses away to Newcastle and Liverpool), despite having 4 key players out injured (Mings, Moreno, Buendia, Carlos), and one of the best managers in world football.
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Brontebilly is the British version of L’Equipe for player ratings.
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The opponent got a nil. That makes me as happy as the goal for Ollie.
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That injury time was a real struggle, ballsy offside line after 110mins! Great result, performance a bit mixed especially after we went ahead. Correct decision for the red card. Tielemans lively cameo, rest of the subs less so.
Martinez 8 - fast off line and a few excellent saves
Cash 7 - very solid in the main but struggled with Chilwell
Konsa 8 - back to his best today
Torres 7 - much better with no clangers
Digne 7 - average first half but much better after he got the smash on his nose
Kamara 7 - excellent first half but quieter after break
Luiz 8 - very good again, set pieces a bit off but class on ball at times
McGinn 6 - running on empty a bit currently but won some good tackles
Zaniolo 6 - brilliant shot forced a cracking save, quiet second half
Diaby 4 - anonymous in first half and a bit of a stinker in second
Watkins 6 - as per Diaby until the goal!
Tielemans was lively in his cameo showing much more aggression, rest of them were poor, Emery far from impressed with Duran
You have McGinn on the same mark as Zaniolo???
Diaby on 4, what? He wasn’t his best but a 4?
Yeah thought Diaby was shite today.
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Mystic Meg not Mystic Mug 8)
See. Told you nothing to worry about with regards the defence. Massive overreaction in the week. We're better than some give us credit for. Unai knows what he's doing. We were never gonna lose today.
Well done to the team.
Been a massive over reaction since the start of the season. Here we are, 6th, 4 wins from 6 (with losses away to Newcastle and Liverpool), despite having 4 key players out injured (Mings, Moreno, Buendia, Carlos), and one of the best managers in world football.
Stop with all this common sense stuff
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So pleased for Ollie especially as he’d had a very quiet game until he scored but, as a striker, sometimes that’s all you need to give you a boost. Don’t usually criticise the referee but today he was shocking. Numerous bad decisions from him.
We still didn’t look anywhere near our best but, some great performances, take a bow Martinez, Kamara, Konsa and Luiz. Good to arrest the giving away of away goals as well.
I’m much more positive about our chances v Brighton. Can’t really comment on the Everton match as it’s impossible to guess what teams either manager will put out for that one.
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I knew we were going to win when Risso didn't give us a hope earlier. :D Fantastic result and hopefully the start of a good run for Ollie. That ref was a bit cack though.
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
WTF??!!!??
He’s just being professional, inside he was sniggering and saying fuck em
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Brontebilly is the British version of L’Equipe for player ratings.
I'm pretty sure bronte isn't British!
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
No you don't was my response.
And I don't feel for the USA team in the Solheim cup, tying the match but Europe retain it.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
Jackie Oadley usually seems OK but today was like Chelsea TV.
She's a Wolves fan.
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That injury time was a real struggle, ballsy offside line after 110mins! Great result, performance a bit mixed especially after we went ahead. Correct decision for the red card. Tielemans lively cameo, rest of the subs less so.
Martinez 8 - fast off line and a few excellent saves
Cash 7 - very solid in the main but struggled with Chilwell
Konsa 8 - back to his best today
Torres 7 - much better with no clangers
Digne 7 - average first half but much better after he got the smash on his nose
Kamara 7 - excellent first half but quieter after break
Luiz 8 - very good again, set pieces a bit off but class on ball at times
McGinn 6 - running on empty a bit currently but won some good tackles
Zaniolo 6 - brilliant shot forced a cracking save, quiet second half
Diaby 4 - anonymous in first half and a bit of a stinker in second
Watkins 6 - as per Diaby until the goal!
Tielemans was lively in his cameo showing much more aggression, rest of them were poor, Emery far from impressed with Duran
Torres had a horrible pass early on that could easily had cost a goal
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If people were honest they'd be talking about Chelsea the same way they talk about Luton or Sheffield Utd.
If you ignore the names on their team sheet that's a plucky fight from a relegation battling team to only lose 1-0.
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Yes but his aunt doesn't have any bollocks so she is still his aunt.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
Jackie Oadley usually seems OK but today was like Chelsea TV.
She's a Wolves fan.
Poor thing, she’s had a tough childhood.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
Jackie Oadley usually seems OK but today was like Chelsea TV.
I only saw the last 15 minutes plus added time, but I thought Ekoku was OK. Jackie Oatley was awful though.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
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Martinez some excellent saves that kept us in it.
Defence very strong.
Mcginn/ Watkins / Diaby poor
If Abramovich was still in charge Poch would be getting the heave ho and to be fair pretty justified. Always thought he was overrated.
As some have said averaging 2 points per game in the prem after Goerdies and 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' away is pretty decent start.
Now let's smash the rest of the European games and march on
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
You leave our Brian alone!
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
Jackie Oadley usually seems OK but today was like Chelsea TV.
She's a Wolves fan.
Poor thing, she’s had a tough childhood.
Codsall though, so the nicer part.
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How much more solid do we look when Bouba plays well? Also good signs with the number of offsides - suggests the defence is getting the line right now.
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It’s always ace putting these poxy fucking upstarts in their place.
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
1960-1961
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
1960-1961
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/
In the league, it is 1913-14.
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
We won there 2 nil in April this year.
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That was a good win, and when they went down to 10, we did step it up.
Watkins was getting increasing stick from the fans during the game, so I am just glad he scored for a confidence booster. I think he and Diaby were the weaker links today, but I'd still rather have him than Jackson.
However, Luiz was outstanding, so much better than Fernández and Caicedo who cost about £200m and got subbed. Moreover, the defence played much better today.
The linesmen were annoying today, flagging against us immediately in the first half but letting play drag on so many times when Chelsea were offside.
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
I've never heard more biased commentary, even when England's or Germany's playing. Even Mrs. GJ, who came in with 15 minutes to go mentioned it. An absolute fucking disgrace from whoever it was. Jackie Oakley?
Good win and I thought we looked more comfortable than some a suggesting.
thought i'd tuned into ChelseaTV
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
That header from Zaniolo had some power.
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
1960-1961
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/
The home game sandwiched between those wins was my first ever Villa game in August ‘60. A very young Jimmy Greaves played for them and we won 3-2. I’m still here and fighting off senility! Very pleased with our start especially as we have had 4 from 6 away
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That injury time was a real struggle, ballsy offside line after 110mins! Great result, performance a bit mixed especially after we went ahead. Correct decision for the red card. Tielemans lively cameo, rest of the subs less so.
Martinez 8 - fast off line and a few excellent saves
Cash 7 - very solid in the main but struggled with Chilwell
Konsa 8 - back to his best today
Torres 7 - much better with no clangers
Digne 7 - average first half but much better after he got the smash on his nose
Kamara 7 - excellent first half but quieter after break
Luiz 8 - very good again, set pieces a bit off but class on ball at times
McGinn 6 - running on empty a bit currently but won some good tackles
Zaniolo 6 - brilliant shot forced a cracking save, quiet second half
Diaby 4 - anonymous in first half and a bit of a stinker in second
Watkins 6 - as per Diaby until the goal!
Tielemans was lively in his cameo showing much more aggression, rest of them were poor, Emery far from impressed with Duran
You have McGinn on the same mark as Zaniolo???
Diaby on 4, what? He wasn’t his best but a 4?
Yeah thought Diaby was shite today.
Craig Revel Hallwood
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
That header from Zaniolo had some power.
He’s going to destroy the net or frame of the goal at some point.
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Diaby on 4, what? He wasn’t his best but a 4?
Just about right for me. Worst game for us by a mile.
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Diaby didn't do much today, but then it was his pass to Watkins that led to the goal, so although neither of them were great for 90 minutes, they combined to win us the game.
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Noticed for the tackle for the sending off Emery made no fuss about the challenge trying to get the player sent off . He is just class
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How to age 11 years in 11 minutes.
I've emailed Maverick Television, they like the format.
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Sterling was rubbish today, lot of chat about why Southgate dropped him but looks like City moved him on at the right time.
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Not bad. Back to back wins at a club who some berk who shall remain nameless claimed should be "wiping the floor with us" not too long ago
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Sterling running after yet another long ball earlier
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/3d-dinosaur-running-away-7v6c1wbv7xkisqvs.gif)
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
1960-1961
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/
In the league, it is 1913-14.
Seasons 1931/32 & 32/33
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Looks like a sigh of relief....
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/393289f0-5ae8-11ee-b74d-0b481054120f.jpg)
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we're back - and we might not have won that without losing in the week.
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Looks like a sigh of relief....
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/393289f0-5ae8-11ee-b74d-0b481054120f.jpg)
He has been crucified in recent weeks.
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Was that last season? If so it shows the transformation.
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Both goalkeepers were excellent.
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Was that last season? If so it shows the transformation.
The Gerard comment on Chelsea wiping the floor with us!
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See Konsa was leading the end of match huddle. Looks like he’s stepping up to the Mings role.
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Looks like a sigh of relief....
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/393289f0-5ae8-11ee-b74d-0b481054120f.jpg)
He has been crucified in recent weeks.
A good instinctive finish, he's not the best when he has too much time to think, but as the ball came back to him today he had to just hit it, no time to piss about with it. Goal.
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
1960-1961
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/
The home game sandwiched between those wins was my first ever Villa game in August ‘60. A very young Jimmy Greaves played for them and we won 3-2. I’m still here and fighting off senility! Very pleased with our start especially as we have had 4 from 6 away
Footage of that game keeps cropping up on my Facebook page. I was at that match and IIRC, it may have been the first game of that season.
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
You leave our Brian alone!
ALITA to the thread please.
Edit: it’s been done. Didn’t get to post before replying.
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Was that last season? If so it shows the transformation.
The Gerard comment on Chelsea wiping the floor with us!
Steven Gerrard has stated that Chelsea should be competing for the biggest trophies and should be 'wiping the floor' with Villa, in a recent interview.
"Chelsea should be competing for the league, they should be competing for the Champions League, and they should be coming to Villa Park and wiping the floor with us."
And never forget, some people defended him coming out with that shit.
And since they did beat us in that game, they've won 6 of 35 league games. Beating the powerhouses of Bournemouth, Palace, Leeds, Leicester, Bournemouth (again) and Luton.
Gerrard really was a massive wanker.
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Looks like a sigh of relief....
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He has been crucified in recent weeks.
Nailed it today.
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Chelsea boss Mauricio Pochettino, speaking to BBC Sport: "I am not frustrated, just disappointed. I think we were the better team until the red card.
"The team has given everything, we need to keep working. To play with 10 men is always difficult but the team worked hard.
"We need to change the situation, the only way I know we can change the situation is by working really hard.
"We are confident in the way we perform. The only thing we are missing is scoring. If we keep working hard we will change."
Drugs are bad, m'kay.
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Word for Diaby who celebrates his teammates goals properly, like if he'd scored it.
It always good to see, especially from your new record signing.
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Noone is alive to remember when last we won back to back at Stamford Bridge...
Well someone might be but they to senile to remember...
1960-1961
https://www.11v11.com/teams/aston-villa/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Chelsea/
The home game sandwiched between those wins was my first ever Villa game in August ‘60. A very young Jimmy Greaves played for them and we won 3-2. I’m still here and fighting off senility! Very pleased with our start especially as we have had 4 from 6 away
Footage of that game keeps cropping up on my Facebook page. I was at that match and IIRC, it may have been the first game of that season.
Yes it was
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Looks like a sigh of relief....
(https://images.webapi.gc.avfcservices.co.uk/fit-in/800x800/393289f0-5ae8-11ee-b74d-0b481054120f.jpg)
He has been crucified in recent weeks.
For Christ sake, why do people do that?
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Was that last season? If so it shows the transformation.
The Gerard comment on Chelsea wiping the floor with us!
Steven Gerrard has stated that Chelsea should be competing for the biggest trophies and should be 'wiping the floor' with Villa, in a recent interview.
"Chelsea should be competing for the league, they should be competing for the Champions League, and they should be coming to Villa Park and wiping the floor with us."
And never forget, some people defended him coming out with that shit.
And since they did beat us in that game, they've won 6 of 35 league games. Beating the powerhouses of Bournemouth, Palace, Leeds, Leicester, Bournemouth (again) and Luton.
Gerrard really was a massive wanker.
And that was the last time we failed to score at home.
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The commentary from the screeching Wolfs fan and Ekuko was constantly from a Chelsea perspective. Listed Chelsea injuries with an "oh, Villa have some injuries too".
Jackie Oadley usually seems OK but today was like Chelsea TV.
I only saw the last 15 minutes plus added time, but I thought Ekoku was OK. Jackie Oatley was awful though.
She's just a shit Jonathan Pearce knock off.
The original wasn't much cop to begin with.
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Word for Diaby who celebrates his teammates goals properly, like if he'd scored it.
It always good to see, especially from your new record signing.
He did it last week too when Bailey scored. You can see it on the "all angles" video on YouTube. Everyone else runs after Bailey but he's on his knees behind the goal fist pumping like mad at the fans.
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Word for Diaby who celebrates his teammates goals properly, like if he'd scored it.
It always good to see, especially from your new record signing.
Especially when he's not having the best of games himself.
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I had to mute the excited female commentator , dear me… was she a competition winner?
As for the game, very similar to lots of wins last season. Controlled large parts if it, but rode our luck at times. Then a clinical break and finish. Three home games to win now.
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Word for Diaby who celebrates his teammates goals properly, like if he'd scored it.
It always good to see, especially from your new record signing.
He did it last week too when Bailey scored. You can see it on the "all angles" video on YouTube. Everyone else runs after Bailey but he's on his knees behind the goal fist pumping like mad at the fans.
Its the first thing i noticed when it went in today, love him for that.
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Word for Diaby who celebrates his teammates goals properly, like if he'd scored it.
It always good to see, especially from your new record signing.
He did it last week too when Bailey scored. You can see it on the "all angles" video on YouTube. Everyone else runs after Bailey but he's on his knees behind the goal fist pumping like mad at the fans.
Yeah, I saw that too and it's been noticeable at other teams.
There's clearly no sign if being aloof or thinking he's better then everyone else, despite actually being clearly better than everyone else.
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Does that mean we’ve got to listen to her on MOTD later?
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Chelsea boss Mauricio Pochettino, speaking to BBC Sport: "I am not frustrated, just disappointed. I think we were the better team until the red card.
"The team has given everything, we need to keep working. To play with 10 men is always difficult but the team worked hard.
"We need to change the situation, the only way I know we can change the situation is by working really hard.
"We are confident in the way we perform. The only thing we are missing is scoring. If we keep working hard we will change."
Drugs are bad, m'kay.
He sounds exactly like the other managers of bottom of the table teams. Good for him for being realistic. If they can take points off then other relegation teams they'll probably be alright this season.
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I had to mute the excited female commentator , dear me… was she a competition winner?
Her gender was pretty obvious during the game. We'd have known who you were talking about without the added info in your post. Unless, obviously, you have a habit of pointing out that Richard Keys is a male twat.
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Great win
Sorry for slagging Watkins off for 70 minutes in the thread .
Having a few beers in Birmingham for the night to celebrate, even paying bacchus bar prices and not weeathersperms.
Kamara was great .
Mcginn was off it .
Emi saved us a few times .
Loving zaniolo
Good to see JJ and hope moreno ain't too bad
Now for another beer
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How much more solid do we look when Bouba plays well? Also good signs with the number of offsides - suggests the defence is getting the line right now.
Not difficult getting the line right against brainless Sterling, would have been punished by anybody else
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
Thanks. I reckon Emi won that for us.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
Thanks. I reckon Emi won that for us.
Agreed and that is why he is the best in the world currently
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How much more solid do we look when Bouba plays well? Also good signs with the number of offsides - suggests the defence is getting the line right now.
Not difficult getting the line right against brainless Sterling, would have been punished by anybody else
Except we did the same thing last season, had a few games where it wasn't right and we conceded a few then we worked it out and had one of the best defences in the league for the last 12-13games.
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Any photos or Purslow in the away end?
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Cracking win. Both keepers were key. Pleased for Ollie. Kamara, Luiz and Konsa were excellent. Feels great to be in the top 6.
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How much more solid do we look when Bouba plays well? Also good signs with the number of offsides - suggests the defence is getting the line right now.
Not difficult getting the line right against brainless Sterling, would have been punished by anybody else
Not sure that’s true is it? There were 8 offsides why how many were sterling?
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
Thanks. I reckon Emi won that for us.
I will counter with Sanchez kept them in the game.
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Yeah swings and roundabouts. I think it was fairly even.
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Yeah swings and roundabouts. I think it was fairly even.
It was mostly even but I never felt in danger, even when the lino put the flag up very late.
I was confident at HT we would win.
I was worried when they went to 10 men, we seen us struggle before especially at home when teams dig in.
We deserved it. Just.
0-1 away anywhere in this league is the perfect result.
UTV
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How much more solid do we look when Bouba plays well? Also good signs with the number of offsides - suggests the defence is getting the line right now.
Not difficult getting the line right against brainless Sterling, would have been punished by anybody else
Sterling was offside once. We caught loads of them.
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Didn't expect that, fair play to everyone. Pretty even, the first goal was always going to be massive. Emi is class.
Hopefully Moreno is back soon as is still as quick, could do with his pace going back when we get turned.
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Sixth in the league and we’ve not played that well yet.
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Great result - feels like we have rarely clicked this season yet are still 6th with is a brilliant sign - given all the distribution
The squad players have a chance on Thursday to make up for last week.
Slightly unsure if the team is as balanced as it was last season - but not sure if that’s due to the injuries
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Great win I'm happy with that.
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Unai Emery explains why Alex Moreno was not in Aston Villa squad at Chelsea
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/unai-emery-explains-alex-moreno-27779334
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We miss Moreno and we miss Mings, I don't think there's any getting away from that. We also miss the variety Buendia gave us. Those were Ramsey's first league minutes of the season. They're 4 losses we've done well to compensate for.
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https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-a-villa/report/482645
Thanks. I reckon Emi won that for us.
I will counter with Sanchez kept them in the game.
Yes earlier on but once we were leading Emi denying Chilwell turned out to thr key save.
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Lovely. Watched the game by the pool in Alghero. After a superb little 46 miler on the bike from Stintino. Nice.
Did you get to La Pelosa ? Beautiful area.
Yep had a look yesterday.
Alghero today has the World Beach Football World Cup final.
Mad.
Awesome.
Am a bit drunk already
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Lovely. Watched the game by the pool in Alghero. After a superb little 46 miler on the bike from Stintino. Nice.
Do you post on LinkedIn?
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Lovely. Watched the game by the pool in Alghero. After a superb little 46 miler on the bike from Stintino. Nice.
Do you post on LinkedIn?
No. Only for work.
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Rode our luck at times, and the red card came just at a time when they were on top, but the mark of a contender is putting away the midtable riff-raff even when you're not at your best.
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Rode our luck at times, and the red card came just at a time when they were on top, but the mark of a contender is putting away the midtable riff-raff even when you're not at your best.
midtable ? 30 points from your last 35 games is hardly midtable.
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Rode our luck at times, and the red card came just at a time when they were on top, but the mark of a contender is putting away the midtable riff-raff even when you're not at your best.
midtable ? 30 points from your last 35 games is hardly midtable.
Yeah but I think they have enough to scrape together some points over Christmas.
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Yeah but I think they have enough to scrape together some points over Christmas.
They'll need to. Their next 8 PL games are Fulham and Burnley away, then Arsenal and Brentford at home, followed by Spurs (A), Citeh (H), Newcastle (A) and Brighton (H). Don't see a lot there for them if they don't get their act together pronto.
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Yeah but I think they have enough to scrape together some points over Christmas.
They'll need to. Their next 8 PL games are Fulham and Burnley away, then Arsenal and Brentford at home, followed by Spurs (A), Citeh (H), Newcastle (A) and Brighton (H).
I can see them getting 4-8 points from that.
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Chelsea haven't scored in 3 games, and only have 5 all season. Everton and Sheffield Utd have as many goals as them.
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Chelsea haven't scored in 3 games, and only have 5 all season. Everton and Sheffield Utd have as many goals as them.
Nicolas Jackson looks further away from being a premier league regular than Duran for me, going into the season with him as their main forward was a huge mistake, unlucky to lose Nkunku but really poor to do nothing about it. It gets worse now he's banned, Imagine spending £1bn in 14months and ending up with Broja as your only available striker.
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Understandably looked a bit nervous at the start but settled into the game. Zaniola very bright early on. McGinn constantly dispossessed by Gallagher. Luiz, Kamara and Konsa were at their best. And great for Watkins to get off the mark in the league. Referee performance was an absolute shambles.
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I said before the game that I would take a win, and a win it is.
Fack the fackers!
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Deserved it. Ref was useless. Kamara back to his old self. Wish he would release the ball quicker sometimes though. Great to have Jacob back in the fray. They all played their part today and Watkins getting the winning goal is crucial for his confidence.
That ref's performance was odd. At the end of the first half they put up 3 minutes of extra time. During that 3 minutes Luca Digne got injured in a clash and had to be treated for a blood injury so I was expecting the 3 minutes to turn into 5 or 6. He actually played 1 minute 45 seconds then blew the whistle. This isn't sour grapes as it worked in our favour as Chelsea were on top. But wtaf?
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That is how it works for the big teams. What can you do?
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Lovely. Watched the game by the pool in Alghero. After a superb little 46 miler on the bike from Stintino. Nice.
Do you post on LinkedIn?
Ha ha, made me laugh.
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I said before the game that I would take a win, and a win it is.
So it’s your fault, just be careful next time as it could have easily been more than just a straight forward win.
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Deserved it. Ref was useless. Kamara back to his old self. Wish he would release the ball quicker sometimes though. Great to have Jacob back in the fray. They all played their part today and Watkins getting the winning goal is crucial for his confidence.
That ref's performance was odd. At the end of the first half they put up 3 minutes of extra time. During that 3 minutes Luca Digne got injured in a clash and had to be treated for a blood injury so I was expecting the 3 minutes to turn into 5 or 6. He actually played 1 minute 45 seconds then blew the whistle. This isn't sour grapes as it worked in our favour as Chelsea were on top. But wtaf?
It was wrong but I suspect what happened is that tempers were a bit frayed after Digne got booked for putting his face in the way of Sterlings elbow and he decided it was easier to blow up, deal with some complaints as the players went off and then come back once things had calmed down a bit. If that's right I can't hold it against him, it's the sort of sensible decision making I'd like to see more of.
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I usually agree with the Whoscored ratings and they had the Chelsea keeper as MOTM by a big margin. They also had Kamara as our man of the match.
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Definitely a red card.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Charlotte Marsh? She wrote the report at least.
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I quite liked her, she'd done the homework and had a naive enthusiasm, like she just wanted to see some GOALS dammit! Massively preferable over the affected boredom of the veteran, the type that reached its apogee in the unbearable Alan Green.
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I usually agree with the Whoscored ratings and they had the Chelsea keeper as MOTM by a big margin. They also had Kamara as our man of the match.
I used to like whoscored until I realised how much they change their ratings based on goals.
Take today, they had Watkins at 5.9 until the goal then jumped him up to 7.5 which might be fair but they also jumped pretty much everyone else in the team up by 0.5 which doesn't really make sense. i now prefer how sofascore do it, the end result is similar but doesn't reward defenders for being part of a team that scores a lot of goals.
Only a very minor quibble but their ratings for the entirety of last season are, in my opinion, a better reflection of how we played.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
I listened to the match on the radio and the co-commentator was a right whiny twat. I’m sure he was only interested in Chelsea and he thought the sending off was soft. He had a bit of an accent, maybe Welsh?
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
I’ve written twice to the i newspaper when they have printed reports on every Premier League game - except Villa’s.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
I’ve written twice to the i newspaper when they have printed reports on every Premier League game - except Villa’s.
Did you put 'There's no (Villa) team in i" as the subject?
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
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In the paper over here they have given Sterling the assist point for our goal.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
This morning they didn't even mention the match in the day's fixtures
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Jacqui Oatley - normally a good commentator but she’s a raving Wolves fan so…
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Jacqui Oatley is generally pretty good.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
The woman screeching away and him with his monotone droll, I put it on a foreign channel, far better
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Love how much Diaby celebrates our goals.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
The woman screeching away and him with his monotone droll, I put it on a foreign channel, far better
'Screeching' is nice. Unlike those male commentators we get who don't screech at all, like Clive Tyldesley or Jonathan Pearce.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
Played for Wimbledon, didn't he? As a child I liked his name.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
I’ve written twice to the i newspaper when they have printed reports on every Premier League game - except Villa’s.
Just checked the Morning Star, it has reports on Arsenal v Spurs and Brighton v Bournemouth but absolutely nothing on us !
Why are we hated by socialists ?
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
Played for Wimbledon, didn't he? As a child I liked his name.
It's a lovely name, Dud, it's a fine name.
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Love how much Diaby celebrates our goals.
He celebrates team mates goals like he’d scored them himself (like Emi Buendia, as listeners to TheVillaPodcast will be familiar with).
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
He is good
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
Indeed, I thought he made plenty of sense.
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Haha Lizzy BBC Sport Summariser just sounded incredulous when she said ‘by Aston Villa?’.
De-fucking-licious.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
That’s because it’s not a shock, it’s a normal expected result and boring one at that.
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Enjoyed us looking a lot more comfortable and solid. The offside trap worked well for the first time this year; everytime they were yards off.
Konsa and Torres (one early dodgy pass aside) were excellent. Cash got caught out a couple of times with a long diagonal, but I felt we kept them at arms length all game.
Kamara was our best player, a lot more like it and to a level we'd expect of him.
Thought we struggled to get either Diaby or Watkins involved, but could have been 2 up, but for a pair of brilliant saves first half.
Zaniolo looks a talent. He does well holding it up with his back to goal and I wouldn't mind seeing him more central. We went 3 up top in possession when they went down to 10, with Digne pushing right on down the left, but it was good to see the big fella around the box- something to consider.
Happy Watkins got his goal and hopefully it's the much needed springboard for confidence. McGinn way off again for me.
They're a poor side, so good to see us comfortably roll lower mid table rubbish over without too much exertion.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
Indeed, I thought he made plenty of sense.
As dull as listening to finger nails grow .
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
Played for Wimbledon, didn't he? As a child I liked his name.
It's a lovely name, Dud, it's a fine name.
Yes, it's Stephanie.
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
Agreed, can't stand him as a "pundit".
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
Agreed, can't stand him as a "pundit".
I dunno, his conclusion that Konsa was "someone I'd be looking at" was pretty profound.
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
Agreed, can't stand him as a "pundit".
As por as that is, I have to admit that I quite like him. Was a good player, and is a likeable person. Definitely not one with an anti-Villa agenda either, is usually quite complimentary of us.
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Agree, Ian Wright is getting better with age as a pundit. He even lays into Arsenal now . Good pundit plus he likes the villa .
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Accompanied by Efon Akuku . The Arabic commentary made more sense
Dunno who he is, but my stream had Efan Ekoku and I thought he talked some good sense.
The woman screeching away and him with his monotone droll, I put it on a foreign channel, far better
'Screeching' is nice. Unlike those male commentators we get who don't screech at all, like Clive Tyldesley or Jonathan Pearce.
Tyldesley and Pearce are toe-curlers!!
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I know we caught them offside a lot, but I’m not as convinced as many on here that the high-line is working again. Emi pulled off some great saves when they were clean through having beaten the trap.
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We are still off the pace performance wise from last season but getting the results none the less. Encouraging that Kamara came back to form and Konsa was a standout in defence. Diaby and McGinn had off days and we still won. I worry about Torres lack of pace and that Watkins hardly touched the ball until he got the winner, but we showed we can win without being at our best.
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Chelsea boss Mauricio Pochettino, speaking to BBC Sport: "I am not frustrated, just disappointed. I think we were the better team until the red card.
"The team has given everything, we need to keep working. To play with 10 men is always difficult but the team worked hard.
"We need to change the situation, the only way I know we can change the situation is by working really hard.
"We are confident in the way we perform. The only thing we are missing is scoring. If we keep working hard we will change."
Drugs are bad, m'kay.
He sounds exactly like the other managers of bottom of the table teams. Good for him for being realistic. If they can take points off then other relegation teams they'll probably be alright this season.
If not he can revert to the BS he was spouting at Spurs when it was going tits up. "The Spurs fans can relax there is no truth in the rumour I am taking the Real Madrid job". A rumour no doubt started by the shysters agent.
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
Agreed, can't stand him as a "pundit".
Shay Given came out with a cracker while analysing a potential hand ball in the build up to the first goal in the Newcastle game. They were debating whether the ball went out of play which it didn't but it did strike Anthony Gordon's hand which then fell nicely for him to cross the ball into the goalscorer. He said "the ball does hit his hand but the goal couldn't be disallowed because he didn't actually score the goal" If a handball occurs in the build up surely the goal should be ruled out? If not I just don't understand the rules anymore.
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
Agreed, can't stand him as a "pundit".
Shay Given came out with a cracker while analysing a potential hand ball in the build up to the first goal in the Newcastle game. They were debating whether the ball went out of play which it didn't but it did strike Anthony Gordon's hand which then fell nicely for him to cross the ball into the goalscorer. He said "the ball does hit his hand but the goal couldn't be disallowed because he didn't actually score the goal" If a handball occurs in the build up surely the goal should be ruled out? If not I just don't understand the rules anymore.
I haven't understood any of the rules for ages.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
neither did Midlands Today on Sunday evening
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It’s a VAR thing, VAR can only intervene if the goal scorer handles the ball.
This is a problem with VAR, it’s trying to get half pregnant.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
neither did Midlands Today on Sunday evening
Not mentioned on R4 at 6.30, all the other scores were.
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
neither did Midlands Today on Sunday evening
Not mentioned on R4 at 6.30, all the other scores were.
It's fine - everyone can ignore us like last year as far as I am concerned. Wank over Brighton and Hammers whilst being mortified over crisis clubs Chelsea and Man U
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In the 5 live sports roundup of the Prem at 7pm they didn’t even mention the result.
neither did Midlands Today on Sunday evening
Not mentioned on R4 at 6.30, all the other scores were.
It's fine - everyone can ignore us like last year as far as I am concerned. Wank over Brighton and Hammers whilst being mortified over crisis clubs Chelsea and Man U
In BBC 1 news last night they covered Newcastle’s 8-0 win, Arsenal and Spurs’ draw and then went on to announce that “there were also wins for Brighton and Liverpool but Chelsea lost”.
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I'd had a few too many last night, and on seeing the lineup, threw a tantrum and refused to watch the game..
Usually when that happens, we win.
I have a number of very cuntish Chelsea fans in my university classes here. There's one class in particular on a Monday morning at 9 o'clock. Gobby, self important wanky Chelsea fans who are now considering changing to Liverpool (yawn) or Brighton (again, yawn. They have a Japanese player that's had one good season...he is very good, admittedly)
This morning, when everyone was accounted for, I turned on the projector and just played the highlights of yesterday's game.
I abhor Chelsea. I can't think of anyone I like that supports them. It seems you have to be a fully qualified wanker to even consider it.
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The Guardian report really is something to behold.
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The Guardian report really is something to behold.
It really is! I like the Guardian but their Villa coverage is non existent - that goes for the otherwise enjoyable podcast.
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The Guardian report really is something to behold.
Isn't it. It's like Villa had no shots and were totally overrun until we scored. Then you look at the stats under the report and we had more shots and more on target then Chelski. Ridiculous report.
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It's not just the Villa that get totally overlooked it's the city of Birmingham and the West Midlands that gets the same treatment. We have a mountain to move before our club even makes a blip on the media radar. The UK media is almost a cartel of London & Manchester based journalists.It began with the BBC building Media City in Mcr and their obsession with making the cotton capital the second city. The NW gets all the focus while you also have the capital media boys and girls which seems to be made up entirely of journos who massively favour London clubs with the obligatory Man Utd and Liverpool sections. The BBC is opening a new centre in Digbeth which may bring some local attention but I won't hold my breath as they will probably fill the vacancies with experienced media luvvies from Mcr and London.
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I was looking at the comments on the BBC Sport page about the Chelsea vs the Villa match and saw this which made me chuckle.
Blue is the colour
Football is the game
They're going nowhere
Isn't it a shame
All that cash but they still look lame
Cos Chelsea, Chelsea is their name.
UTV
The Doc
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I think our progress going under the radar is no bad thing, keeps the pressure off. Although living in Sussex when you do tell people you support the Villa you often get a "Really?" response, as if you'd said Napoli or Ajax.
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Hopefully we are finally getting it together defensively.
Lovely to beat those classless twonks. The New England Patriots of the Premier League.
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So Ian Wright was told to analyse Konsa with a view that the player is ready for England. That effort by Wright was the most laziest analysis I have ever seen. It was disjointed and incoherent totally incompetent and he finished with referring to him as a striker. Unbelievable, and he gets paid for that garbage!
Agreed, can't stand him as a "pundit".
Shay Given came out with a cracker while analysing a potential hand ball in the build up to the first goal in the Newcastle game. They were debating whether the ball went out of play which it didn't but it did strike Anthony Gordon's hand which then fell nicely for him to cross the ball into the goalscorer. He said "the ball does hit his hand but the goal couldn't be disallowed because he didn't actually score the goal" If a handball occurs in the build up surely the goal should be ruled out? If not I just don't understand the rules anymore.
Didn’t VAR get the ref to look again at a Shuff Utd hand ball in the build up to a recent goal? And the ref disallowed it? Sander Berge I think it was, and he wasn’t the goal scorer.
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I too was amazed at that brain dead Shay Given comment.
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I like/read the Guardian, but the report yesterday was a joke.
On media bias etc, doubt this was purposeful and more down to just ignoring Birmingham in general, but this morning on talkshite they were asking whether the north London derby was the biggest in English football now….yawn. They then asked about other great rivalries….they mentioned everything, I mean from Manchester, Glasgow, to Burnley vrs Blackburn, Portsmouth vrs Southampton, to the fecking Bristol derby and beyond. Not once did they mention Villa Blues, the second biggest city in the UK, with Villa flying high and not once did they mention that derby. I actually hate the bloody derby and the under currants and threats of violence that are always there (WBA my big derby), but in these sanitised times that also for me has the double edged sword of raising the derby to something beyond the other derbies, only more heightened in Glasgow.
Natalie Sawyers and Ray Parlour were the presenters today & they are not bad to be fair, but to completely ignore Birmingham grates. Reminds me of when we were playing blues regularly in the mid 2000s and MOTD insisted on calling it a ‘midlands derby’ do feck off!
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I thought the commentators during the actual match were fine, perfectly OK on the favourability thing.
Problem is, the Graun will assign London reporters to the London clubs' home games, so the bias of focus is expected, but then insist the Villa reporter have the same level of interest when Chelsea etc are the away team.
These are people who think 'going north' is the Cambridge train from Kings X.
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That 'Midlands derby' bollocks always really pissed me off too, like were Norwich and Ipswich or something, and it felt like a deliberate act to undermine any significance in the fixture or the city itself.
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Looking at Chavski’s run of fixtures it’s not rocket science to say they’re in deep shit unless something miraculous happens very soon.
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I watched it back in full last night (IPTV catch-up).
There's no doubt we rode our luck a bit - we still give up far too many chances and tbh the game could have gone either way. Fortunately, Chelsea's finishing was woeful and Martinez made some excellent saves (as did Sanchez of course).
But an excellent result and there were some very good performances - Konsa, Cash, Kamara & Luiz all stood out. I don't think I realised quite how fast Cash his, one of his recovery tackles was superb and he came from miles away.
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That 'Midlands derby' bollocks always really pissed me off too, like were Norwich and Ipswich or something, and it felt like a deliberate act to undermine any significance in the fixture or the city itself.
The regularity with which we get referred to as a 'Midlands club' rather than a Birmingham one in general really fucks me off, too.
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Lovely win against bottom half cannon fodder, Brighton will be a much bigger test.
I did say Watkins would score in the pre match thread too 😀
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I'd had a few too many last night, and on seeing the lineup, threw a tantrum and refused to watch the game..
What didn't you like about the line-up? I'd say that's probably our strongest team with the current injuries and Ramsey still working up his fitness.
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Who the fuck is this woman commentator on our game (just watching the replay)?
Awful.
Jacqui Oatley - normally a good commentator but she’s a raving Wolves fan so…
She seemed to start off very pro-Chelsea but tbf I thought she improved during the game and was pretty complimentary about us. I've heard worse.
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Edit.
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Hopefully we are finally getting it together defensively.
Lovely to beat those classless twonks. The New England Patriots of the Premier League.
My knowledge of American "football" couldn't be seen under a electron microscope, so I have to ask what is up with them? They're Peter Griffin's team and I guess Tom Brady played for them, as he appears in the cartoon...?
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
About halfway through where Luiz makes Mudryk and Caicedo (£200m combined) look like a pair of puppies chasing a balloon is glorious.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
About halfway through where Luiz makes Mudryk and Caicedo (£200m combined) look like a pair of puppies chasing a balloon is glorious.
If our "double-pivot" (or whatever it's called this week) continues to perform at the level it has been, you have to wonder how long it will be until we get a silly offer for one or other of them. Hopefully we'll be brave enough to say no as and when the time comes!
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If our "double-pivot" (or whatever it's called this week) continues to perform at the level it has been, you have to wonder how long it will be until we get a silly offer for one or other of them. Hopefully we'll be brave enough to say no as and when the time comes!
Depends on what team offers but you'd think any sensible person would have crossed Chelsea and Man U off their list of potential "big moves" at this point, which would at least lower the number of clubs that might be tempting.
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You're right Smithy. I think Luiz is £100m+ already and he'd be all FFP profit. Kamara may be a bit too inconsistent but is still young - at his best he's also excellent.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
About halfway through where Luiz makes Mudryk and Caicedo (£200m combined) look like a pair of puppies chasing a balloon is glorious.
If our "double-pivot" (or whatever it's called this week) continues to perform at the level it has been, you have to wonder how long it will be until we get a silly offer for one or other of them. Hopefully we'll be brave enough to say no as and when the time comes!
Thankfully Chelsea are touring the country with a play warning young players of the peril of jumping ship to a bunch of jokers throwing cash at you.
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Ha! Great stuff Lee. They've been doing it for years, Barkley was the lead a few years ago.
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I'd had a few too many last night, and on seeing the lineup, threw a tantrum and refused to watch the game..
What didn't you like about the line-up? I'd say that's probably our strongest team with the current injuries and Ramsey still working up his fitness.
I did think Martinez instead of Olsen was a strange one, but we got away with it.
Anyway, great win again, 12 points from those first 6 games is more than i would have taken. Just need to get going in the cups, so no slip ups in midweek or in the next European one.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
I thought before the game we could do with him not being fit to start. I never noticed him in the game at all. Luiz looked twice the player.
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It's fine - everyone can ignore us like last year as far as I am concerned. Wank over Brighton and Hammers whilst being mortified over crisis clubs Chelsea and Man U
Same here, quite happy to keep flying 'under the radar'.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
I thought before the game we could do with him not being fit to start. I never noticed him in the game at all. Luiz looked twice the player.
Seem to remember him being pretty anonymous both occasions that we beat Brighton last season as well.
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I tend to only notice Caicdeo when he's fouling one of our players.
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For what has been a bit of a Jekyll & Hyde start to the season, we are doing pretty well, form wise.
Saw a table that started at the beginning of 2023 & we were joint second behind Man City in first place, Liverpool & Arsenal above us on goal difference.
But we had won more games than both of them.
Not sure where we are since Emery started, but it has to be right up there.
And thats with a fair few teething problems along the way...
Chelsea were where they belong.
Just outside the bottom four based purely on the fact that the bottom four had already been relegated 5 games ago, lol.
Beating Chelsea is always so sweet.
They are a scumbag club from top to bottom.
Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
He really is the single worst commentator/analyser on TV...
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Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
I couldn't have finished that sentence without cracking up.
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Hopefully we are finally getting it together defensively.
Lovely to beat those classless twonks. The New England Patriots of the Premier League.
My knowledge of American "football" couldn't be seen under a electron microscope, so I have to ask what is up with them? They're Peter Griffin's team and I guess Tom Brady played for them, as he appears in the cartoon...?
Team that gad nothing up to about 2000, then dominated. Awful fans, mix of glory supporters and racists. Team famous for blurring the lines between what is legal and what isn't.
Thankfully, they've also gone off a bit in recent years.
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Hopefully we are finally getting it together defensively.
Lovely to beat those classless twonks. The New England Patriots of the Premier League.
My knowledge of American "football" couldn't be seen under a electron microscope, so I have to ask what is up with them? They're Peter Griffin's team and I guess Tom Brady played for them, as he appears in the cartoon...?
Team that gad nothing up to about 2000, then dominated. Awful fans, mix of glory supporters and racists. Team famous for blurring the lines between what is legal and what isn't.
Thankfully, they've also gone off a bit in recent years.
"Blurring the lines" is a bit of an understatement, lol...
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For what has been a bit of a Jekyll & Hyde start to the season, we are doing pretty well, form wise.
Saw a table that started at the beginning of 2023 & we were joint second behind Man City in first place, Liverpool & Arsenal above us on goal difference.
But we had won more games than both of them.
Not sure where we are since Emery started, but it has to be right up there.
And thats with a fair few teething problems along the way...
Chelsea were where they belong.
Just outside the bottom four based purely on the fact that the bottom four had already been relegated 5 games ago, lol.
Beating Chelsea is always so sweet.
They are a scumbag club from top to bottom.
Lee Hendrie saying "you really feel for Chelsea" Fuck off Lee. NEVER!
He really is the single worst commentator/analyser on TV...
They really are, and they always have been. Born to make money from the boom in football in the Edwardian era (I don't know of any other club in England that started with those aims) fashionable because of where their ground was in the 60's, a byword for racism and hostillity and Ken Bates in the 70's and 80's, dodgy oligarch funding for the last 20 years now this obsecene transfer largesse.
And their fans are still by and larger a bunch of racist morons.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
It's laughable they've spent all that money and they're still playing him and an untested kid up front.
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I know we caught them offside a lot, but I’m not as convinced as many on here that the high-line is working again. Emi pulled off some great saves when they were clean through having beaten the trap.
Yes, that happened twice and that is two too many. Need to sort that.
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Nobody has been squabbling on here* since yesterday, which is disconcerting but very pleasant. We should win more often so world peace can prevail.
* Well, in this thread at least.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
It's laughable they've spent all that money and they're still playing him and an untested kid up front.
And a donkey with long blond hair is their captain. I just love it that my two most hated teams Chelscum and Mancscum are in turmoil.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
It's laughable they've spent all that money and they're still playing him and an untested kid up front.
Yes whoever is in charge of strategy at Chelsea probably needs to have a sit down in a darkened room for a while.
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I know we caught them offside a lot, but I’m not as convinced as many on here that the high-line is working again. Emi pulled off some great saves when they were clean through having beaten the trap.
Yes, that happened twice and that is two too many. Need to sort that.
It's a concern but the payoff seems to be that we play further up the pitch and never seem to let the opposition have periods when we're pinned back.
When it goes wrong you get Newcastle. Still, if we maintain a 4 win, 1 shellacking ratio over a season we should be OK.
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Nobody has been squabbling on here since yesterday, which is disconcerting but very pleasant. We should win more often so world peace can prevail.
But we do win more often. 6 from 9 so far this season but no good news has arrived from Ukraine or Palestine so far!
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I saw Julen Lopetegui walking past me on the Kings Road.
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I saw Julen Lopetegui walking past me on the Kings Road.
Read this morning that he was there. Potential Pochettino replacement? Surely not.
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Olaftab, we simply have not won more often than we have won to date. Which is why Afghan women are still covered up and Palestine is not opening up any new council allotments for the foreseeable future.
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The last time we played Chelsea I watched the game in a bar here in Spain with my son in law . A couple of young Chelsea supporters bowled up and the gobby one spent most of the game moaning about Potter and how he needed to go. At one point when it was obvious we were giving them a lesson he turned to us and said " I know you guys are Villa supporters but you got to admit there is no way Villa should be able to beat Chelsea."
I do hope the entitled little prick isn't too upset this weekend dealing with his new reality.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
It's laughable they've spent all that money and they're still playing him and an untested kid up front.
Yes whoever is in charge of strategy at Chelsea probably needs to have a sit down in a darkened room for a while.
I don't see any strategy in spunking £1bn up the wall and seeing what sticks.
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Marina Granovskaia was a very good DOF and they continued to achieve through successive managers.
They replaced the money but not the expertise. Arsenal went through a similar phase after David Dein.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
Such a good video... just two wonderful players, we're so lucky to have them. Outside of City and maybe Liverpool, the best midfield in the league in my mind. Which is crazy to say considering some of the dross we've seen over the last 10 years.
Obviously Emery has improved every player in the squad exponentially but I believe that the 2 CMs are the biggest reason we're putting up this points total across 2023. When they're both on it, they give us so much control both on and off the ball against pretty much any team outside the two mentioned.
Holding on to them will be critical if we want to get Europa/Champions League, cause they're both easily of that level.
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It was my first experience of rail seating which I thought was pretty good.
All round, an excellent day in Shitsville.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
It's laughable they've spent all that money and they're still playing him and an untested kid up front.
Yes whoever is in charge of strategy at Chelsea probably needs to have a sit down in a darkened room for a while.
I don't see any strategy in spunking £1bn up the wall and seeing what sticks.
That £1bn is going to cost them in FFP for the next five or six years. If it turns out they've bought a load of old dross, and they can't get into the top four, they'll be buggered financially.
Clearly it's not working for them right now, but I think it's too early to say that billion has been "completely" wasted. They've bought some good players, just massively overpaid for them. But it would be lovely if a couple of them never found their feet at all, and just become £100m flops.
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They have a lot of injuries and a good manager. I still fear they will be comfortably in the mix for top 6 at the end of the season.
But they have an FFP time bomb and I very much hope it blows up.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
It's laughable they've spent all that money and they're still playing him and an untested kid up front.
Yes whoever is in charge of strategy at Chelsea probably needs to have a sit down in a darkened room for a while.
I don't see any strategy in spunking £1bn up the wall and seeing what sticks.
That £1bn is going to cost them in FFP for the next five or six years. If it turns out they've bought a load of old dross, and they can't get into the top four, they'll be buggered financially.
Clearly it's not working for them right now, but I think it's too early to say that billion has been "completely" wasted. They've bought some good players, just massively overpaid for them. But it would be lovely if a couple of them never found their feet at all, and just become £100m flops.
Chelsea thought they had pulled off a ffp masterstroke by putting players on 8 year contracts to spread out the outlay. The problem is if those players don't turn out to be as good as you thought you have big problems getting rid of them when they can just sit back and keep the money rolling in for 8 years. They could well find themselves up the creek without a paddle. Although Citeh have spent similar amounts of blood money they seem more capable of finding actual talent.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
Such a good video... just two wonderful players, we're so lucky to have them. Outside of City and maybe Liverpool, the best midfield in the league in my mind. Which is crazy to say considering some of the dross we've seen over the last 10 years.
That bit at about 1min 30. Just glorious.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
Such a good video... just two wonderful players, we're so lucky to have them. Outside of City and maybe Liverpool, the best midfield in the league in my mind. Which is crazy to say considering some of the dross we've seen over the last 10 years.
That bit at about 1min 30. Just glorious.
It's like when the kids were toddlers and I'd have them try and get the ball off me.
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The last time we played Chelsea I watched the game in a bar here in Spain with my son in law . A couple of young Chelsea supporters bowled up and the gobby one spent most of the game moaning about Potter and how he needed to go. At one point when it was obvious we were giving them a lesson he turned to us and said " I know you guys are Villa supporters but you got to admit there is no way Villa should be able to beat Chelsea."
I do hope the entitled little prick isn't too upset this weekend dealing with his new reality.
Summing up the self entitled arrogance of every modern day happy clapper day tripping glory hunting fuckwit fans on the planet in one sentence...
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I see the cull has begin at Chelsea
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12557527/Chelsea-team-coach-Bruno-Saltor-secretly-leaves-club-working-Mauricio-Pochettino-just-four-months-following-Blues-disappointing-start-season.html
Few more games and Poch the chancer will be gone also
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The last time we played Chelsea I watched the game in a bar here in Spain with my son in law . A couple of young Chelsea supporters bowled up and the gobby one spent most of the game moaning about Potter and how he needed to go. At one point when it was obvious we were giving them a lesson he turned to us and said " I know you guys are Villa supporters but you got to admit there is no way Villa should be able to beat Chelsea."
I do hope the entitled little prick isn't too upset this weekend dealing with his new reality.
Was his name Steven?
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Thought it funny when Watkins scored he went right to the Chelsea fans and stuck his fingers in his ears. McGinn came over behind him and led him away, gently directing him towards the Villa fans on the other side.
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They have a lot of injuries and a good manager. I still fear they will be comfortably in the mix for top 6 at the end of the season.
But they have an FFP time bomb and I very much hope it blows up.
Think a lot depends on Nkunku getting fit and then hitting the ground running…if that happens they’ll be ok, if not they are looking at another shopping spree for a centre forward come January.
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13 games in 2023 they've failed to score in. That's a very poor record for any team.
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It was a pretty enjoyable lunchtime job in my Villa training top today - for some reason I decided on the west London loop.
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They have a lot of injuries and a good manager. I still fear they will be comfortably in the mix for top 6 at the end of the season.
But they have an FFP time bomb and I very much hope it blows up.
They have got good players but, for me, their approach feels a bit Bruce-like in that they focused on signing players they liked rather than players they needed and now the squad is a bit unbalanced and less thna the sum of its parts. Maybe they fix that over the season as the squad gels or maybe they spend another fortune in January and finally get it right but either way I think they look a long way from the top 6 right now.
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I also think they've been that bad for that long it's not something a couple of wins is going to fix.
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For too many years we have just turned up there with hope. The last twice we have turned up with a plan. Long may it continue.
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Olaftab, we simply have not won more often than we have won to date.
I obviously make school boy errors more often than I don't :-[
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They have a lot of injuries and a good manager. I still fear they will be comfortably in the mix for top 6 at the end of the season.
But they have an FFP time bomb and I very much hope it blows up.
They have got good players but, for me, their approach feels a bit Bruce-like in that they focused on signing players they liked rather than players they needed and now the squad is a bit unbalanced and less thna the sum of its parts. Maybe they fix that over the season as the squad gels or maybe they spend another fortune in January and finally get it right but either way I think they look a long way from the top 6 right now.
I do agree, but I feel even with their scattergun approach they have a lot of quality once they get players back from injury and I think Poch has the experience to get them firing.
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Man for man anyone swapped for any of ours?
Keeper Sanchez is good but not as good as ours
I do like Thiago but he is showing his age.
Apart from one run thought Jackson was anonymous
Sterling - never rated him and he ain't getting any better - possibly the only decision Southgate got right by dropping him.
Man bun - his best games were for Palace
Cole Palmer - Decent player but would not get ahead of Zaniolo / Ramsey for me
A lot of money for a lot of average crap - including the Manager
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
I think it shows that sometimes it isn't the player being great, but the coaching / rest of the team who raise their game higher. I suspect it is why De Zerbi wasn't fussed on losing a big chunk of midfield during the summer.
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....I'd like to make a comment on the game-----------Caicedo £115,000,000?
https://x.com/AVFCOfficial/status/1706236095766409506?s=20
See above, absolutely embarassing their midfield.
I think it shows that sometimes it isn't the player being great, but the coaching / rest of the team who raise their game higher. I suspect it is why De Zerbi wasn't fussed on losing a big chunk of midfield during the summer.
For that you do need very effective succession planning.
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Haven't seen the Zaniolo shot yet, that was apparently well saved.
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I know this probably wasn’t deliberate but Twatterface after the game had finished yesterday opened up the phone lines and said ‘we want to hear from Chelsea fans we want to hear from arsenal and spurs fans we want to hear from Brighton and Bournemouth fans and Liverpool and West Ham fans.’
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Haven't seen the Zaniolo shot yet, that was apparently well saved.
It is approx one minute in on the SkySports video.
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Man for man anyone swapped for any of ours?
Keeper Sanchez is good but not as good as ours
I do like Thiago but he is showing his age.
Apart from one run thought Jackson was anonymous
Sterling - never rated him and he ain't getting any better - possibly the only decision Southgate got right by dropping him.
Man bun - his best games were for Palace
Cole Palmer - Decent player but would not get ahead of Zaniolo / Ramsey for me
A lot of money for a lot of average crap - including the Manager
James and Chilwell would get in most PL teams. But as a team/club their decline since winning the CL has been epic. Lukaku was meant to bring them the PL title. Overpaid hugely for most players like Caicedo and Fernandez.
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BHA got what must be the best deal ever hosing CFC £115M for Caciedo
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BHA got what must be the best deal ever hosing CFC £115M for Caciedo
And did Liverpool get the luckiest escape?
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BHA got what must be the best deal ever hosing CFC £115M for Caciedo
And did Liverpool get the luckiest escape?
i think so, he would not get into that Liverpool midfield
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Fortunately, Poch thought he was too good to be the Villa manager when we were looking for one. Another cheque book Charlie.
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BHA got what must be the best deal ever hosing CFC £115M for Caciedo
And did Liverpool get the luckiest escape?
i think so, he would not get into that Liverpool midfield
I think on spending £115mil on him, Caicedo would have been playing though as even Klopp wouldn't have been able to resist the pressure from the owners or the fans to play the new expensive toy. The question then would be would Liverpool have been as successful in their first so many matches. Defensively they have been suspect but attacking wise they have been all out. So if they had got Caicedo in, something that is currently working well would have had to change.
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Fortunately, Poch thought he was too good to be the Villa manager when we were looking for one. Another cheque book Charlie.
Bullet well and truly dodged.
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I disagree about Poch. He is a fine manager and a decent bloke who just so happens to have made the mistake of joining the American Circus at just the wrong time.
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I disagree about Poch. He is a fine manager and a decent bloke who just so happens to have made the mistake of joining the American Circus at just the wrong time.
I agree but I'm pretty sure he'll turn them round.
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I disagree about Poch. He is a fine manager and a decent bloke who just so happens to have made the mistake of joining the American Circus at just the wrong time.
I agree but I'm pretty sure he'll turn them round.
I think he has the ability but I'm not sure he'll get the time, he's their 4th manager in a year and they've now thrown a billion pounds at it as well as employing a guy who is meant to be one of the best managers in the world, if they're bottom half after 10 games things start to get twitchy for him ad they've got a tough run coming up. Fulham and Burnley as the next 2 but then there's a run of 7 games where you could see them going without a win if they don't find some form.
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BHA got what must be the best deal ever hosing CFC £115M for Caciedo
Brighton's relationship with Chelsea reminds of those 'magic cup' hustlers, with Chelsea the naive tourist getting consistently mugged hoping this time they're going to win.
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I can't feel much sympathy for anyone who has gone to Chelsea, player or manager, in the last year or so, especially not since January. They probably needed an Emery type who would come in and do a job with the players already there, and minimise spending until the next window. Instead they bought another entirely new team and are in the exact same situation they were in last season.
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I disagree about Poch. He is a fine manager and a decent bloke who just so happens to have made the mistake of joining the American Circus at just the wrong time.
I agree but I'm pretty sure he'll turn them round.
I think he has the ability but I'm not sure he'll get the time, he's their 4th manager in a year and they've now thrown a billion pounds at it as well as employing a guy who is meant to be one of the best managers in the world, if they're bottom half after 10 games things start to get twitchy for him ad they've got a tough run coming up. Fulham and Burnley as the next 2 but then there's a run of 7 games where you could see them going without a win if they don't find some form.
And to think after the opening match against Liverpool (where they only had 4 shots on target and drew 1-1) he was being praised as already turning it around from last season and just needing to improve defensively as attacking wise, they looked the done deal.
Edit: And it probably didn't help him bragging that the week without a European match meant he had the team in being extra prepared for the weekend. It is on-par with MON stating the weakened team against Spartak away would mean he would have his best team out against Stoke the weekend to go for a CL spot.
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In terms of Chelsea. They have signed some really good young players and need to give them time to gel instead of sacking managers. They will start to batter teams at some point. They have got it wrong up front though, powder puff.
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Haven't seen the Zaniolo shot yet, that was apparently well saved.
It is approx one minute in on the SkySports video.
Cheers, great technique by Zaniolo. Chelsea GKs always seem to have the game of their lives against us.
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And to think after the opening match against Liverpool (where they only had 4 shots on target and drew 1-1) he was being praised as already turning it around from last season and just needing to improve defensively as attacking wise, they looked the done deal.
Edit: And it probably didn't help him bragging that the week without a European match meant he had the team in being extra prepared for the weekend. It is on-par with MON stating the weakened team against Spartak away would mean he would have his best team out against Stoke the weekend to go for a CL spot.
Christ, I just had a Nam flashback to that Stoke game where that family of pigeons were sitting in our half for most of the game & the Stoke fans were cheering getting to the half way line.
2-0 up, just to fluff it in the last few minutes with that shit Stoke clogger banging in a late equaliser to basically start our decade if demise...
Depressing.
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For better or for Worse at least we are a football club run as a football club
they are run more like a global money laundering operation
They are totally pointless and completely meaningless
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There seemed to be a bit of a running battle between Dougie and Fernández yesterday which was a good watch!
Only one winner in that contest considering the Chelsea lad lasted barely an hour.
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For better or for Worse at least we are a football club run as a football club
they are run more like a global money laundering operation
They are totally pointless and completely meaningless
i was there last season in corporate (lucky invite) , there were still remnants of the Abramovich era dripping about , fair to say none of these types have a 9-5 job
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I disagree about Poch. He is a fine manager and a decent bloke who just so happens to have made the mistake of joining the American Circus at just the wrong time.
I agree but I'm pretty sure he'll turn them round.
I think he has the ability but I'm not sure he'll get the time, he's their 4th manager in a year and they've now thrown a billion pounds at it as well as employing a guy who is meant to be one of the best managers in the world, if they're bottom half after 10 games things start to get twitchy for him ad they've got a tough run coming up. Fulham and Burnley as the next 2 but then there's a run of 7 games where you could see them going without a win if they don't find some form.
I guess the difference is that there aren't many managers who'd be considered a big improvement on Pochettino, even allowing for his current struggles. There's De Zerbi, but he'd be mental to do a Graham Potter, and some bloke called Enai Umery at some tinpot Midlands club, but other than that there aren't too many candidates.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
We were saying it was strange that Thiago didn’t make a more serious attempt to foul Diaby but I guess he just couldn’t quite keep up with him. However from the upper tier in the away end his awareness and positioning were very good for much of that first hour and he has a real sense of danger. Well past his prime now though.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
We were saying it was strange that Thiago didn’t make a more serious attempt to foul Diaby but I guess he just couldn’t quite keep up with him. However from the upper tier in the away end his awareness and positioning were very good for much of that first hour and he has a real sense of danger. Well past his prime now though.
I know a fella I have a drink with most weeks who is a Chelsea supporter and has been going there for donkeys years
He says Thiago is the best CH he’s ever seen Including John Terry obviously age is catching up with him now as he must be 100 years old
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
We were saying it was strange that Thiago didn’t make a more serious attempt to foul Diaby but I guess he just couldn’t quite keep up with him. However from the upper tier in the away end his awareness and positioning were very good for much of that first hour and he has a real sense of danger. Well past his prime now though.
I know a fella I have a drink with most weeks who is a Chelsea supporter and has been going there for donkeys years
He says Thiago is the best CH he’s ever seen Including John Terry obviously age is catching up with him now as he must be 100 years old
I don’t watch them but I can see how he would have been brilliant for a long time. He reminded me of somebody who had watched a few McGrath videos as a trainee!
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Fortunately, Poch thought he was too good to be the Villa manager when we were looking for one. Another cheque book Charlie.
Bullet well and truly dodged.
No not really. Pochettino is a top top coach , the problem at Chelsea is the ****** who own them. They are treating the PL like IPL in cricket. Just buy the players with highest numbers, batters and bowlers' and job done. I believe Baseball is like that but I don't know much about that sport. Football is different but I hope they continue to flush their money down the pot.
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My favourite thing about Ollie's goal (and I haven't read this entire thread, so it might have been pointed out already), was that after the mis-control by Thiago Silva allowed Diaby to break away, Thiago Silva tried to make amends by tripping Diaby - clearly recognising the break was on and he was away. Moussa hurdled the attempt (just) and kept going, when he could have gone down and earned Silva a yellow. When the ball went in, you could see Silva's frustration - he knew he'd fucked up, both with the mis-control, and not taking out Diaby when he could. Delicious.
I really love it when an attempt at a professional foul fails, and the attacking team properly capitalises.
I thought the attempt from Thiago was laughable. He's an old man in football and Moussa is one of if not the quickest, most agile forward in the League.
We were saying it was strange that Thiago didn’t make a more serious attempt to foul Diaby but I guess he just couldn’t quite keep up with him. However from the upper tier in the away end his awareness and positioning were very good for much of that first hour and he has a real sense of danger. Well past his prime now though.
That bit is clearly the case. Later on in the same move watch him and he's all over Diaby like a rash restricting any options for Watkins to release the ball. Any ordinary defender would have rushed over to help Colwill and left Diably unmarked.
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And to think after the opening match against Liverpool (where they only had 4 shots on target and drew 1-1) he was being praised as already turning it around from last season and just needing to improve defensively as attacking wise, they looked the done deal.
Edit: And it probably didn't help him bragging that the week without a European match meant he had the team in being extra prepared for the weekend. It is on-par with MON stating the weakened team against Spartak away would mean he would have his best team out against Stoke the weekend to go for a CL spot.
Christ, I just had a Nam flashback to that Stoke game where that family of pigeons were sitting in our half for most of the game & the Stoke fans were cheering getting to the half way line.
2-0 up, just to fluff it in the last few minutes with that shit Stoke clogger banging in a late equaliser to basically start our decade if demise...
Depressing.
Hey, hang on a minute there. That 'shit Stoke clogger' missed the most important penalty in our recent history to rid us of Bruceball, show a little respect.
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Chelsea captain Reece James has been charged by the Football Association for an alleged incident in the tunnel after their 1-0 defeat by Aston Villa.
England defender James, 23, did not feature in the game because of injury.
The FA said: "It's alleged that the defender used improper and/or insulting and/or abusive words and/or behaviour towards a match official in the tunnel after the game."
James has until 29 September to respond to the charge.