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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: UK Redsox on December 30, 2015, 09:33:41 AM
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Stadium of Light
Saturday January 2
Kick-off: 3pm
Tickets still available according to Pravda
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Got my vote in early this time - sadly, didn't take a lot of thinking about.
Think I'll ask for a new map of England for my birthday in late January so I can start looking up where these strange teams are located that play in the Championship. One good thing is, won't have to travel far as there are so many teams from the Midlands!!
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We go again
We get beat again
We come home sulking again
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2-2
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Think about how shit Sunderland are. Their comedy defence, poor attack, disjointed midfield.
Then think about how they have 4 more points than us having played a game less.
2-0 home win, Fletcher will capitalise on a Richards error, then late in the game Clark will make a mistake and Defoe will score.
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Must win game for Sunderland, otherwise they're going to join us next year. So 2-0 them.
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2-2
No Ayew whose scoring the 2 goals? 1 nil to them
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0-2 villa win
This time next year Rodney we will be millionaires
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0-0. A terrible game between two terrible teams.
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The fact that we always seem to win up there is the only cause for optimism on this occasion.
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With no Ayew, don't see who's going to score for us, so 2-0 to Sam's lads.
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0-3 away win with a perfect hat-trick from Agbonlahor.
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easy away win
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Defeat. Just want to fast forward to August now.
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Defeat. Just want to fast forward to August now.
Steady on!
June and July have become my favourite months in the football season!
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I was resigned to relegation a month ago so the inability to win has become funny in a macabre way. The longer it goes on, the funnier it gets.
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Best we can hope for is a 0-0 draw.
1-0 to Sunderland. Bad defensive mistake and a feeble attempt by Guzan to save it.
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Loss. No chance here.
Big Ugly Sam's Big Ugly Team will shred ours to bits. Only chance is their ill discipline.
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Two awful teams
2 0 Sunderland
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0-1 (og).
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Sunderland 3-0 Villa.
Reverse psychology. It's a last, desperate,forlorn attempt to ease my mind.
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Six pointer for them against a team already relegated, 1-0 to them, possibly 2-0
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My tickets arrived after a change and all I could think of was, I must be mad... Not the first time this year when away tickets have arrive I have had that feeling... Not sure if a win makes that much difference just cannot see us winning enough consistently to be of any consequence.
Forecast to rain all day, 180 miles each way... nearly beyond the call of duty, but a cheap junior ticket for my son :). My wife is convinced that I take a perverse pleasure in suffering with the villa so the worse the weather or longer the journey the more I can moan (women :o). I have explained, wait until next year, I have 8 more league games to moan about and even shittier grounds to visit...
Just for the hell of it. 3-1 us
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Our only attacking threat is out so that's us with a nil. They are shit too though so its about whether they'll be able to break us down.
2-0 to Sunderland, as shit as they are they're still better than us. Comfortably so at home.
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we always win there but cant see us winning a raffle. 0-0
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The two worst sides in the league. We've a good record up there, so Villa win.
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Nil points, nil goals, nil entertainment. Nil, 3 perfect letters to sum up Aston Villa.
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Richardson won't be LB is a plus. Ayew not being available isn't. I think we might see Traore start with Gestede leading the line. I'll go foepr an optimistic (or delusional) 2-1 win; Rudy and Veretout with the goals.
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Nil points, nil goals, nil entertainment. Nil, 3 perfect letters to sum up Aston Villa.
Nil goals would secure one point.
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Ideally, a comfortable win up there as usual with Fat Sam bemoaning the fact that we had two extra days rest/preparation time.
Realistically, he rests most of his team for their match against Liverpool tonight and they beat us pretty comfortably with O'Shea and Brown having their easiest game in months.
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Routine defeat.
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0-3 away win with a perfect hat-trick from Agbonlahor.
He's injured
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He'd still do better than Gestede.
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Sunderland 53 Aston Villa (R) 0.
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After the Newcastle game I saw reason for a small miracle that we would survive with a win at the SoL. Results since then have made me realise we won't win so I'm going for a 2-0 defeat. I will be there & think a few pre game drinks are in order to soften the defeat.
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I'm going for our second (and possibly last) win of the season. We always win at Sunderland.
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We're on for the record here lads, fail to win and that's 15 in all competitions without one which I'm pretty sure is a record. We of course have already smashed the longest run without a league win (18 and counting).
While I guess theoretically the worst Villa team ever is the one that went down in 69/70 (or indeed the one that failed to get promoted in 70/71), this shower are the worst ever in terms of competing at the level they are at. For once that's not hyperbole, the facts bear it out. One to tell the grandkids.
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2-0 defeat.
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Much needed win for them so they can compete with Newcastle for who comes down with us. Another rusty nail in the disintegrating coffin for us. Losing has become so routine it doesn't even hurt anymore. I just want the season to be over
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Crikey, 30% odd still think we will not lose. Please let me have email address of where you are getting the stuff you are on from!!
As for records, does anyone really give a shit anymore?? Plus, even if we did win, with this shower of players, it would not make any material difference!!
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Sunderland are shit, they're definately going down, we are shitter and already down, 2-1 them.
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Death by a thousand defeats. 2-0 Sunderland, easy.
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I am one of the eleven so far who has gone for a Villa win. Maybe we all need to voluntarily check ourselves into hospital for 'a little rest'.
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Proposing a team selection has become a painful chore, still think we need to get Grealish back into the side.
------------------Guzan
Bacuna, Okore, Lescott, Clark
---------Richards, Gueye-----
---Traore, Veretout, Grealish
--------------just-head---------
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Crikey, 30% odd still think we will not lose. Please let me have email address of where you are getting the stuff you are on from!!
As for records, does anyone really give a shit anymore?? Plus, even if we did win, with this shower of players, it would not make any material difference!!
Nope, I'm immune to breaking shit eating records now, Villa have drained me of the pride I had in them, I expect us to be defeated and laughed at and will just try and ignore it all until Lerner and his cronies do one and we get some professionals in.
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The beginning of the end.
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2-0 Sunderland win and the post match thread to be full of comments along the lines of I SAID WE SHOULD HAVE GOT ALLARDYCE (or Pulis or Pearson). All in caps lock to prove how right they all were.
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Cissokho will start this game I imagine.
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Proposing a team selection has become a painful chore, still think we need to get Grealish back into the side.
------------------Guzan
Bacuna, Okore, Lescott, Clark
---------Richards, Gueye-----
---Traore, Veretout, Grealish
--------------just-head---------
I like how you've positioned Guzan as badly as he positions himself for free kicks.
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If Defoe is fit he will score, always does against us doesn't he?
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If Defoe is fit he will score, always does against us doesn't he?
Does he? He barely touched the ball when we battered them up there last season.
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If Defoe is fit he will score, always does against us doesn't he?
Does he?
I don't like him, I think it comes from him scoring against us a lot but there's been so many conceded the last few years they've all blurred in to an avalanche of faceless goals.
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Just checked, he's scored against us 8 times, the most he's scored against anyone. What a surprise.
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Guzan
Richards Okore Lescott Cissoko
Gana -Bacuna -Veretout
Traore -Gestede - Grealish
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Cissokho will start this game I imagine.
I'm not sure he can play until after this game but I may be wrong.
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Cissokho will start this game I imagine.
I'm not sure he can play until after this game but I may be wrong.
Isn't it Jan 1st onwards? When the window opens again I think.
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Will he even be match fit though? He's played 3 games in about 7 months, let's hope he's been training properly and staying in shape.
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Just checked, he's scored against us 8 times, the most he's scored against anyone. What a surprise.
He hasn't scored since 2008 against us I believe. In recent years while Defoe was at Spurs it has been Adebayor who killed us if I remember correctly.
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Transfer window opens Monday so Cissokho is available from the Wycombe game onwards
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Will he even be match fit though? He's played 3 games in about 7 months, let's hope he's been training properly and staying in shape.
He could be missing a leg and be more useful than Richardson
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Just checked, he's scored against us 8 times, the most he's scored against anyone. What a surprise.
He hasn't scored since 2008 against us I believe. In recent years while Defoe was at Spurs it has been Adebayor who killed us if I remember correctly.
He bummed us when we got caned in the cup against Spurs when Helenius got his pants pulled down. A Lambert season I think.
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Transfer window opens Monday so Cissokho is available from the Wycombe game onwards
Bollox
Guess it's Bacuna or Richardson there at LB then .....
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Crikey, 30% odd still think we will not lose. Please let me have email address of where you are getting the stuff you are on from!!
As for records, does anyone really give a shit anymore?? Plus, even if we did win, with this shower of players, it would not make any material difference!!
Can`t give you their Email but most of their addresses end in the word "Asylum".
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Thank you Martin, I will Google asylum then as should put me on the right path.
AJ2 - couldn't have put it better myself!!
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FWIW:-
Bunn
Richards Okore Lescott Cardboard cut out of Amavi
Bacuna Veretout Gana
Gil
Traore Gestede
**Won't be anything like that though, only certainty is the LB position!!
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The thing that killed Sunderland up at their place last season was our pace and they still look hopeless at the back.
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Crikey, 30% odd still think we will not lose. Please let me have email address of where you are getting the stuff you are on from!!
As for records, does anyone really give a shit anymore?? Plus, even if we did win, with this shower of players, it would not make any material difference!!
Nope, I'm immune to breaking shit eating records now, Villa have drained me of the pride I had in them, I expect us to be defeated and laughed at and will just try and ignore it all until Lerner and his cronies do one and we get some professionals in.
Seeing as I think this is the first Christmas ever I haven't seen a repeat of the sketch on some compilation show or other -
We've got all the right professionals in. Just not necessarily in the right order.
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A home win after a turgid 90+ minutes of shitball: concluding in the away following finally losing it & chanting 'you're not fit to wear the shirt(s)' after a customary defensive calamity.
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Can't see us winning 1-0 Sunderland.
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Transfer window opens Monday so Cissokho is available from the Wycombe game onwards
According to this link the window opens on Saturday 2nd January 2016 and closes at 11-00pm on Monday 1st February.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/2015-16/january-transfer-window-2016.html
So if correct then Cissokho, Senderos, Bennett and any other player with us should be available for selection against Sunderland if Garde thinks they can do a job for him and the team. The restriction of picking the team from the squad list of 25 players ends as soon as the transfer window opens.
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I don't see the point in picking up the odd win here and there between now and May. It would be more fun now to see if we could get to the end of the season without winning another game.
Rather than routing for the lazy fuckers, and giving any remaining optimists a glimmer of hope that we can still get out of this by dripping the occasional point or three into that final column, let's join them on their journey to getting us mathematically relegated as soon as freaking possible with one stinking win on the board all season.
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I don't see the point in picking up the odd win here and there between now and May. It would be more fun now to see if we could get to the end of the season without winning another game.
Rather than routing for the lazy fuckers, and giving any remaining optimists a glimmer of hope that we can still get out of this by dripping the occasional point or three into that final column, let's join them on their journey to getting us mathematically relegated as soon as freaking possible with one stinking win on the board all season.
I don't think that sounds at all fun.
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I want to swear and say rude things about that suggestion.
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Fuck it. I'd stick Gil up front with Grealish and Veretout behind. Might as well attempt to stay in the league.
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After the Norwich debacle I have given up hope of us winning again this season - crap players, no confidence and a losing mentality so will go 2-1 Sunderland
No chance of us lining up as follows but would really like to see Guzan, Richards, Okore, Clark, Lescott, Gana, Veretout, Grealish, Gill, Traore, Gestede
Subs: Bunn, Hutton, Bacuna, Sinclair, Kozak, Richardson, Crespo
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1-0 to Sunderland in a match as ugly as Satan's rectum.
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I see we now have 33% of deluded people or, less harsh, having watched us play this season. If anyone suffers from insomnia, I suggest you get in quick for a ticket to our next home match. The Stewards are very good as they will wake you up at the time that you request to be woken!!
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Guzan
Richards Okore Lescott Clark
Gana. Gardner
Bacuna Traore Grealish
Gestede
Subs
Bunn, Ilori, Crespo, Lyden, Sinclair, Gil, Hepburn-Murphy
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A feast of open, attacking and skilful football.
0-0
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Hope for an away win, more for those poor loyal fools going all that way. I won't hold my breath.
2-0 Sunderland.
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2 : 0 Until we change some the players we won't win ,confidence totally shot in present squad (with the exception of Bunn)
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The last three games have extinguished my hope.
We'll do well to get nil with the "first team".
Play the reserves / kids, we have nothing to lose.
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Danny Graham is the worst striker in the Premier League, so Westwood will lose the ball to Cattermole who will pass to Graham, Clark will fall on his arse, Richards will be out of position & Graham will score. At least 3 times.
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If we turn up we might be able to grind out a really pathetic 0-0.
Can't see it though, so I'll go for the most obvious result... 1-0 them.
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Danny Graham is the worst striker in the Premier League, so Westwood will lose the ball to Cattermole who will pass to Graham, Clark will fall on his arse, Richards will be out of position & Graham will score. At least 3 times.
Good job Westwood is out then.
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No Westwood? Injured or banned?
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No Westwood? Injured or banned?
Banned, picked up yellow card against Norwich!
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Lose 1-0 bah humbug.
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Starting XI:
Oh, FFS.
Idiot.
Fool.
Awful.
Deary, deary me.
What was that supposed to be?
Christ almighty.
Oh dear.
Whoops!
Did he really miss that?
It beggars belief.
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Guzan
Richards Okore Lescott Clark
Gana. Gardner
Bacuna Traore Grealish
Gestede
Subs
Bunn, Ilori, Crespo, Lyden, Sinclair, Gil, Hepburn-Murphy
gardner? lol
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They need to get their new manager bounce back on track.I'm sure we will oblige.
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0-1 veretout.
The escape begins.
New year new chances
Happy new year all
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0-1 veretout.
The escape begins.
New year new chances
Happy new year all
Miraculous New Yew!
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0-1 veretout.
The escape begins.
New year new chances
Happy new year all
Miraculous New Yew!
YEAR !!!.....or maybe Yew?
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I think they're as shit as us and I'm going for a scrappy one goal win.
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Fuck it. I'd stick Gil up front with Grealish and Veretout behind. Might as well attempt to stay in the league.
That wouldn't work. Saw it in one of the home games when he had a chance to go clean through, any decent defender would deal with him easily imo. If we're going to try that sort of stuff I'd stick Adama up top. He's greedy as fuck, isn't going to get knocked off the ball, can dribble and if put through nobody is catching him.
I'm not sure how good his finishing is but it's probably better than JustHead's.
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Thanks Christian for the late Xmas gift :)
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I still think Sunderland will stay up. They'll beat us, and I think Allardyce will have something up his sleeve to keep them up.
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I think Sunderland will go as well the other teams , the promoted teams this season are much better they as a squad like us are suffering from years of fighting the drop.
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1-1. Both own goals.
I give in ever predicting or suggesting a preferred line up again. It is futile.
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0-1 veretout.
The escape begins.
New year new chances
Happy new year all
I'm with you. Villa victory and then we're a point behind Sunderland.
The fightback begins.
Bunn
Richards Okore Lescott
Traore Bacuna Sanchez Veretout Gil
Kozak
5 defenders/5 attackers
Villa have to win.
Allons-y mes braves !!!
New Year/New chances
Happy New Year :) :) :)
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4-4-2 with Adama in alongside Gestede for me.
We have no options in midfield, Veretout, Gana pick themselves. I would like to see Lyden given a run in there with them, and Gardner must be fit!?Gil starts we lose!
Richards right back, Okore,Lescott, Bacuna.
God we have a poor squad.
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I still think Sunderland will stay up. They'll beat us, and I think Allardyce will have something up his sleeve to keep them up.
The only thing Allardyce can have up his sleeve that could keep Sunderland up is a stash of viagra.
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0-1 veretout.
The escape begins.
New year new chances
Happy new year all
I'm with footyskillz
Happy New Year to us! :)
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I've done no good predicting wins, so, them 37 Us -10.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
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Bacuna or Richardson at left back. The Richardson that is apparently in the worst team of 2015, with Villa conceding every 39 minutes with him on the pitch.
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Loss. Obviously.
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Can never predict us to lose so here goes 2-0 them.
There you have it, we'll win now.
IF.... We can do something we've seemingly forgotten how to do and nick a win, bring in Remy, a couple of defenders and a decent midfielder next week we might go on a bit of a run, I ain't gonna hold my breath mind.
UTV!
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2015 was a dog of a year despite (and largely thanks to) the FA Cup final.
We will win lots of games in 2016 but not many in the premier league. This will be one of them though 2-0 in the "most unpredictable premier league season ever" (tm Sky Sports).
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Dreamt we lost two nil, albeit at Villa Park.
So I'm going for the reverse and a surprise two nil Villa win.
Viva le revolution!
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Sunderland deep in trouble now. No win in four games and a front two who just can't beg a goal from anywhere. Can't see where they are going to find another win - oh hang on...........
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Sunderland deep in trouble now. No win in four games and a front two who just can't beg a goal from anywhere. Can't see where they are going to find another win - oh hang on...........
You got it, when any team needs a lift, and their next game is against Villa and we oblige.
I also think Sam's team will bully our lightweights.
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A routine win for Sunderland. Next.
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0-1 veretout.
The escape begins.
New year new chances
Happy new year all
I with you, a win for Villa and a happy new year to all
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We'll win, and we'll deserve it.
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Oh fuck it I'm going to keep predicting a Villa win until it finally comes Mackems 1 Villa 2
Bonne Annee
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Bacuna or Richardson at left back. The Richardson that is apparently in the worst team of 2015, with Villa conceding every 39 minutes with him on the pitch.
Bacuna or Richardson?
That's like being given the choice of death by firing squad or death by poison.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
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No Westwood? Injured or banned?
Banned, picked up yellow card against Norwich!
Banned by 35,000 villa fans.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
Does that supercede Fact?
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
No, that's your opinion.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
No, that's your opinion.
It's an opinion, but it happens to be one I agree with. Bacuna, like a number of his teammates, is not good enough for top flight football. In my opinion of course.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
No, that's your opinion.
It's an opinion, but it happens to be one I agree with. Bacuna, like a number of his teammates, is not good enough for top flight football. In my opinion of course.
He may not be quite good enough, but he's not rubbish. In my opinion of course.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
Does that supercede Fact?
100%. End of.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
No, that's your opinion.
It's an opinion, but it happens to be one I agree with. Bacuna, like a number of his teammates, is not good enough for top flight football. In my opinion of course.
He may not be quite good enough, but he's not rubbish. In my opinion of course.
Opinion noted!! In what position though Clampy? I can't recall him playing out wide too often, which would suggest he is not viewed as being good enough to play there. His rare outings in a more central midfield role have been disastrous, so that just leaves full-back. Is he a top flight full-back?
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Probably new year optimism, voted for an away win.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
No, that's your opinion.
It's an opinion, but it happens to be one I agree with. Bacuna, like a number of his teammates, is not good enough for top flight football. In my opinion of course.
He may not be quite good enough, but he's not rubbish. In my opinion of course.
Opinion noted!! In what position though Clampy? I can't recall him playing out wide too often, which would suggest he is not viewed as being good enough to play there. His rare outings in a more central midfield role have been disastrous, so that just leaves full-back. Is he a top flight full-back?
No, he's not a top flight full back and I and no-one else ever said he was, mainly because he's not a defender but you've missed my point. All i'm saying is that whenever he's been asked to play right or left back, he's done a reasonable job for us.
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A routine win for Sunderland. Next.
They do those almost as little as we do. Plus they'll be reeeeely tired after playing last night.
Nah, you're right, 3-1 to Sunderland.
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I don't get why so many people put bacuna in there team! He shouldn't be nowhere near a villa shirt! I no hes not the only culprit but fuck me if we keep playing idiots like him it's no wonder we are bottom of the pile! !
Mainly because despite not being a left back, left footed or even a defender, he's not really let us down in the games that he's played there.
Bacuna is rubbish. The end.
No, that's your opinion.
It's an opinion, but it happens to be one I agree with. Bacuna, like a number of his teammates, is not good enough for top flight football. In my opinion of course.
He may not be quite good enough, but he's not rubbish. In my opinion of course.
Opinion noted!! In what position though Clampy? I can't recall him playing out wide too often, which would suggest he is not viewed as being good enough to play there. His rare outings in a more central midfield role have been disastrous, so that just leaves full-back. Is he a top flight full-back?
Which brings us nicely back to what I said. In my opinion he is not good enough for Aston Villa. Calling him rubbish appears to have ruffled a few feathers so I'll rephrase. He is a mediocre player at best. As a full back he is rubbish. That's just my opinion of course.
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Bacuna looked alright in his first season as a winger/wide midfielder. Didn't he get 5 or so goals? As a defender its a waste of a shirt number.
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I can't even pick a team, never mind a result! Hope for the best, expect the sulks again when we lose. It comes to something when I have to hope that Sissokho can play!! I imagine he will and Bacuna will move into the centre of the park? I hope that Traore gets a full game. Sunderland are so unpredictable at the back that Traore might confuse them even more. Nothing to lose by throwing him in.
Guzan
Hutton Richards Okore Sissokho
Bacuna Veretout Gueye
Traore Bambi Grealish
What a really poor side we are!!
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Mediocre/rubbish, same thing in reality. Splitting hairs and all that.
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One thing Bacuna most certainly isn't is a left back. It's laughable that he's even having to play there.
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One thing Bacuna most certainly isn't is a left back. It's laughable that he's even having to play there.
It's a disgrace that our academy is so poor at the moment that a terrible midfielder/right back is having to be shoe horned in to left back.
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Bacuna has scored valuable goals for us and helped create alot for Benteke.He is what he is a low priced buy but he has some ability which has been eroded away by switching managers , playing in a losing team and being the utlity man asked to fill in at various positions.
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3-1 Villa win is still only worth 25/1 in Coral. Went for that and Veretout as first scorer at 14/1. Probably no chance of either but gone for them nonetheless.
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3-1 Villa win is still only worth 25/1 in Coral. Went for that and Veretout as first scorer at 14/1. Probably no chance of either but gone for them nonetheless.
What are the odds of a unicorn landing in the centre circle at half time?. May be a better bet
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
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He scored from one against Man City a year later. Think there might have been another too.
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He scored from one against Man City a year later. Think there might have been another too.
The Man City goal was in September 2013, the Cardiff one in November 2013. I'm pretty sure there hasn't been another one.
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3-1 Villa win is still only worth 25/1 in Coral. Went for that and Veretout as first scorer at 14/1. Probably no chance of either but gone for them nonetheless.
What are the odds of a unicorn landing in the centre circle at half time?. May be a better bet
You got a price on that Des? 'Might be worth a cheeky fiver. :)
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I don't see the point in picking up the odd win here and there between now and May. It would be more fun now to see if we could get to the end of the season without winning another game.
Rather than routing for the lazy fuckers, and giving any remaining optimists a glimmer of hope that we can still get out of this by dripping the occasional point or three into that final column, let's join them on their journey to getting us mathematically relegated as soon as freaking possible with one stinking win on the board all season.
I see where you're coming from, if you're going to be crap, be crap in style. Reminds me of Joel Schumacher to Woody Allen after he made Batman and Robin:
JS: I think I've just made the worst movie ever.
WA: no, to make the worst movie ever would be an achievement. You haven't even done that.
Do we want to be the worst ever, or Batman and Robin?
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I don't see the point in picking up the odd win here and there between now and May. It would be more fun now to see if we could get to the end of the season without winning another game.
Rather than routing for the lazy fuckers, and giving any remaining optimists a glimmer of hope that we can still get out of this by dripping the occasional point or three into that final column, let's join them on their journey to getting us mathematically relegated as soon as freaking possible with one stinking win on the board all season.
I see where you're coming from, if you're going to be crap, be crap in style. Reminds me of Joel Schumacher to Woody Allen after he made Batman and Robin:
JS: I think I've just made the worst movie ever.
WA: no, to make the worst movie ever would be an achievement. You haven't even done that.
Do we want to be the worst ever, or Batman and Robin?
Whatever we hope for - we'll get the other one. ;)
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
Do you? He doesn't deceive me. I think he is unremittingly shit. Like the rest of them. Or almost the rest of them, a few are less shit than the others.
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
Do you? He doesn't deceive me. I think he is unremittingly shit. Like the rest of them. Or almost the rest of them, a few are less shit than the others.
for me - He's a mediocre squad player at best.
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One thing Bacuna most certainly isn't is a left back. It's laughable that he's even having to play there.
100% right
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
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He scored from one against Man City a year later. Think there might have been another too.
The Man City goal was in September 2013, the Cardiff one in November 2013. I'm pretty sure there hasn't been another one.
Which points to another damning stat , seems a high % of players we buy go backwards under us.Betrand is a great example started off great then looked poor now looks decent again at Southampton.
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One thing Bacuna most certainly isn't is a left back. It's laughable that he's even having to play there.
100% right
It pretty shows underlines how desperate we are - to have to play a mediocre right sided, right footed midfield player at left back - opposing right wingers must be licking their lips when they see the line up.
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
Perhaps everybody has finally realised how abysmal he actually is? At least he ain't on his own...
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when you have a championship standard player like bacuna starting regularly over 3 seasons and being equally shit in every position he plays in you end up where we are now
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Futile festive farrago of a fixture. Send 11 Holte Enders in Santa hats, we'll get beat but it'll be fun. The prospect of watching our players stink out another 90 minutes is too much to take.
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
No, you got jumped on because you said:
"Bacuna is shit. The end."
It isn't your declaration of him as shit that people are reacting to (most of us agree), it is your "the end" comment which is somewhat arrogant.
It is nothing to do with Villa fans being "fickle".
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Bacuna wouldn't make the 25 man squad of any other Premier League club. He just wouldn't. He's a fucking abomination. He'd struggle in the Championship to be honest. When the ball comes to him he looks like he's tippy tapping a live hand grenade. He looks desperately uncomfortable with a football. What the fuck made him want to be a footballer??
Shit.
But then once in a blue moon he does something surprisingly good, like his 5 goals a couple of years ago, or his Leicester goal last season, or the Cafu game last season. But 9 times out of 10 he looks like Ali Dia's less talented cousin.
And there are times when I wonder if Bacuna was even behind Gabby in the queue when God was handing out brains.
I'm sick of seeing some of these faces mugging a living from the club still. See also Richardson, Westwood, Guzan and Gabby (credit Remi that he's seen through Flabby).
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
No, you got jumped on because you said:
"Bacuna is shit. The end."
It isn't your declaration of him as shit that people are reacting to (most of us agree), it is your "the end" comment which is somewhat arrogant.
It is nothing to do with Villa fans being "fickle".
Arrogant? Lol. It was and is just my opinion. The end just means I didn't intend to carry on a conversation about him cos in my opinion he will never be good enough for Aston Villa. Lots of people have come on and slagged him
off in much harsher terms and nobody has said a word. Accusing villa fans of being fickle was a bit of fun.Obviously. It's just banter and opinions mate.
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
No, you got jumped on because you said:
"Bacuna is shit. The end."
It isn't your declaration of him as shit that people are reacting to (most of us agree), it is your "the end" comment which is somewhat arrogant.
It is nothing to do with Villa fans being "fickle".
Arrogant? Lol. It was and is just my opinion. The end just means I didn't intend to carry on a conversation about him cos in my opinion he will never be good enough for Aston Villa. Lots of people have come on and slagged him
off in much harsher terms and nobody has said a word. Accusing villa fans of being fickle was a bit of fun.Obviously. It's just banter and opinions mate.
No, we're a clique who pick on anyone who isn't with us. 100% true.
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Banter lol.
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Banter lol.
Final warning.
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
Right. Can you dig out a quote from a poster on here who made Bacuna out to be world class one week and then compared him to Gary Penrice the next? Because that would be fickle.
As a general rule, anyone who says 'Villa fans are fickle, usually means 'some Villa fans disagree with my point of view.'
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Banter lol.
Final warning.
Brilliant. Sorry for defending myself. I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
Right. Can you dig out a quote from a poster on here who made Bacuna out to be world class one week and then compared him to Gary Penrice the next? Because that would be fickle.
As a general rule, anyone who says 'Villa fans are fickle, usually means 'some Villa fans disagree with my point of view.'
It's banter. It's opinions nothing more and nothing less.
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Dave was joking!
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The Edge can't deal with bantz not sure how he/she gets on with Bono?
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Christ lads..oh and lasses..don't let us become like the fuckin dressing room.. we can disagree but at the end of the day we still all love that fkin club they call ASTON VILLA. ..Happy new year to you all and if the biggest problem in my life is Villa getting relegated, well I can live with that coz one fkin day we'll be back..
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when you have a championship standard player like bacuna starting regularly over 3 seasons and being equally shit in every position he plays in you end up where we are now
When most of the team are made up of Championship standard players you definitely end up where we are now.
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The Edge can't deal with bantz not sure how he/she gets on with Bono?
Don't see much of Bono these days he's a bit stuck up his own arse.
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I posted a year or so ago words to the effect that if we buy Championship players and/or Championship quality players, then that is eventually where we will end up.
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Christ lads..oh and lasses..don't let us become like the fuckin dressing room.. we can disagree but at the end of the day we still all love that fkin club they call ASTON VILLA. ..Happy new year to you all and if the biggest problem in my life is Villa getting relegated, well I can live with that coz one fkin day we'll be back..
Well said brother. Happy New Year to Villa fans everywhere. And as sure as eggs is eggs the mighty Villa will come roaring back. My 22yr old son is actually looking forward to a season of the villa being a big fish in a small pond as his generation have heard all the tales from us about the fun we had back in the day!!
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I've always thought that Bacuna flatters to deceive because of his supposed versatility. Like most of our squad, is regularly guilty of making terrible decisions. The frequency at which he gives the ball to team-mates in poor positions, or looks to play square or cross-field balls in order to just 'pass the buck' instead of trying to instigate any attacking movement is the thing I find most frustrating about him. He's not even the set-piece specialist he appeared to be at first. He hasn't hit even a remotely decent one since that Cardiff game! He's a squad player at best at this level. I can't think of one other side in the Premiership where he'd be anything other than an occasional name on the bench.
To be fair Bacuna is versatile. Unfortunately, it equates to him being equally shite wherever he plays.
I called him rubbish and got jumped. No one has said a word about him being called shite!! Some villa fans can be so fickle.
You didn't get jumped on, you got disagreed with. It's how a forum works.
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Christ lads..oh and lasses..don't let us become like the fuckin dressing room.. we can disagree but at the end of the day we still all love that fkin club they call ASTON VILLA. ..Happy new year to you all and if the biggest problem in my life is Villa getting relegated, well I can live with that coz one fkin day we'll be back..
Well said that man! Here's to a happier 2016 to every Villa supporter - regardless of how poor things are at present. It WILL get better (albeit after enduring a fair bit more rubbish). UTV & SOTC.
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Well it's probably the two most useless teams in the league and it's going to be decided by either who makes the most mistakes and who has the most bottle. Because of this my money is on us to lose yet again.
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Taking my son and two nephews up to this. £263 by train, coach is 6 hours (no good seeing as two of the kids are 6), and a flight to Newcastle goes via Cork, Amsterdam, or Barcelona. So, driving it is. We'll lose, too.
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The fragility of that second half performance spoke volumes.
They have given up and Sunderland still have some fight.
Yes they are shit but good enough to beat us.
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Taking my son and two nephews up to this. £263 by train, coach is 6 hours (no good seeing as two of the kids are 6), and a flight to Newcastle goes via Cork, Amsterdam, or Barcelona. So, driving it is. We'll lose, too.
Hats off to you. That is dedication.
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Read their Ready To Go forum, they're as depressed and downbeat as us. They're also using the same comments; "any team on a bad run or needing a win we help them out". They're better than us though and are due a win against us so I think it will be us helping them out. First half will be cagey, they'll get one quite early second half, we'll attack (HAHA) and they'll get one or two more on the break.
Some of them on their board really dislike us, very irrational. I don't mind Sunderland, decent club with good support and it's a shame we're both down there instead of tinpot clubs like Albion and Palace.
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Read their Ready To Go forum, they're as depressed and downbeat as us. They're also using the same comments; "any team on a bad run or needing a win we help them out". They're better than us though and are due a win against us so I think it will be us helping them out. First half will be cagey, they'll get one quite early second half, we'll attack (HAHA) and they'll get one or two more on the break.
Some of them on their board really dislike us, very irrational. I don't mind Sunderland, decent club with good support and it's a shame we're both down there instead of tinpot clubs like Albion and Palace.
That's a bit sad. Perhaps I could instigate some hearty bridge-building if I popped onto their form & suggested they stick 'down' on the end of their web address? Besides, we're all in it together.
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fk em
VILLA WIN
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HNY of course we will win, of course we will continue in the Premier League......sorry the medication is wearing off, HNY not so sure now, apologies for the post VTID
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More in forlorn hope than any logic based decision, I've gone for a Villa win. Come on, fucking turn things around lads.
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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/35200491
Lawro unsurprisingly says we're shite but MOTD Commentator Steve Wilson fancies us to break our duck. Is he mad?
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If both teams only netted an own goal, would that count as a minus-one-all draw? Seems like a fitting scoreline.
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Just been looking at a preview of the game tomorrow and it looks like we're going to be without Ayew, Westwood (both suspended) and Sanchez.
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I watched the first half of their game the other night. They looked a bit more organised at the back than I thought they would be but didn't really have anything up front. With a few of our players out, it'll either be a 0-0 draw or someone will win it by the one goal.
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
Last 5 years says otherwise Jores.
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
Nothing like being optimistic Jores, but it is also a Nursey article who is hardly a Villa fan.
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If we're under the impression our performances are even close to acceptable then we have a huge problem. It seemed that way under Lambert. We just seemed happy we were doing enough. The fans sitting through the shite could see differently.
I hope Jores is just a bit thick or just a bit naive. But if the manager is telling these chancers they're doing okay, then when will we improve? Some of these guys seem to be happy to do bare minimum. We stink of indifference, which all filters down from Randy who doesn't seem to give two shits any more. It's pathetic. Never mind the Championship, we might as well pack up and turn Villa Park into a shopping mall instead.
Bunch of losers. The club reeks of it.
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I wouldn't read too much into it..I should be imagine there is a great deal of difference between what Remi says and what he actual thinks.
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It's a coincidence that we are rock bottom and also have a team full of shit players.
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
I can only conclude he's been frantically necking mind-bending substances if he actually believes that drivel. His "I think we have a lot of offensive talent and a lot of players who can come in and contribute to the team" bit actually made me laugh out loud!
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Can Cissoko play?
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Can Cissoko play?
I didn't think he could but according to the mail, he can. They also think Hepburn-Murphy might get a run out as well which is interesting.
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Hepburn-Murphy is a forward isnt he? That would be interesting
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He came on for the last couple of minutes at the end of last season and looked positively terrified.
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
What would you rather have him say? How about "everything is shit, I hate being here, my team mates are utter bollocks and I have absolutely no confidence in them. In fact, the sooner my agent calls me the better. I'd take a move to a side in the Faroes over this shower of shit"
How's that? Wouldn't that sound better and helpful given where we are and what we are trying to achieve over the balance of the season?
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I'd rather they just won a fucking game rather than pissing on our legs and telling us it's raining.
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Poor Jose, probably been told by the club to do a media piece and they probably told him what to say. It is not his fault just paper filler.
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
What would you rather have him say? How about "everything is shit, I hate being here, my team mates are utter bollocks and I have absolutely no confidence in them. In fact, the sooner my agent calls me the better. I'd take a move to a side in the Faroes over this shower of shit"
How's that? Wouldn't that sound better and helpful given where we are and what we are trying to achieve over the balance of the season?
I'd rather they said we know we've been rubbish and we're working hard to put it right instead of saying it's "a coincidence".
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Can Cissoko play?
I didn't think he could but according to the mail, he can. They also think Hepburn-Murphy might get a run out as well which is interesting.
No. We can't play him until the transfer window opens, which is the 2nd. The Mail in 'not knowing basic facts' shocker.
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Can Cissoko play?
I didn't think he could but according to the mail, he can. They also think Hepburn-Murphy might get a run out as well which is interesting.
No. We can't play him until the transfer window opens, which is the 2nd. The Mail in 'not knowing basic facts' shocker.
Mind you, it's the 2nd tomorrow so, I don't know how it works.
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Maybe he can play then and i'm still hungover and talking shite!
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I think he can.
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Maybe he can play then and i'm still hungover and talking shite!
I can't believe you started 2016 by blaming alcohol again Mr Shin
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Maybe he can play then and i'm still hungover and talking shite!
I can't believe you started 2016 by blaming alcohol again Mr Shin
It's a streak of 30 odd years and counting!
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Maybe he can play then and i'm still hungover and talking shite!
I can't believe you started 2016 by blaming alcohol again Mr Shin
It's 2016 and alllllllllllllls crap!
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Maybe he can play then and i'm still hungover and talking shite!
I can't believe you started 2016 by blaming alcohol again Mr Shin
It's a streak of 30 odd years and counting!
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One thing Bacuna most certainly isn't is a left back. It's laughable that he's even having to play there.
It's a disgrace that our academy is so poor at the moment that a terrible midfielder/right back is having to be shoe horned in to left back.
I had heard that Sissoko and Bennett have both been recalled from loan? Anyway I'll go with 0-0.
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This has got home win written all over it. They'll go all out for a win as we're possibly the only team worse than them and if they get a goal our brittle confidence will just shatter 3-0.
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FIFA 16 predicts an abject performance and a 2-0 defeat - Defoe 10, 72.
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I'm sorry but I see nothing other than a home win by some considerable margin. We are screwed.
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3 points for us, put your house on it. I've yet to get a prediction wrong.
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They could have a makeshift defence , they ended the Liverpool game with their RB at CB
We how ever are missing 2 CM's , our one striker who can score and are down to sticking a 17 year old on the bench ..
If we score first we have a slim chance but thats all
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Poor Jose, probably been told by the club to do a media piece and they probably told him what to say. It is not his fault just paper filler.
F¤¤k me, have we changed manager again?
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Nothing like being in denial.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villa-desperate-show-rock-7102143
Nothing like being optimistic Jores, but it is also a Nursey article who is hardly a Villa fan.
Oddly the poll at the bottom, obviously has both teams to drop as the most popular outcome with just over 60%, but over 20% say we'll stay up and Sunderland drop!
I blame alcopops.
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One thing Bacuna most certainly isn't is a left back. It's laughable that he's even having to play there.
It's a disgrace that our academy is so poor at the moment that a terrible midfielder/right back is having to be shoe horned in to left back.
I had heard that Sissoko and Bennett have both been recalled from loan? Anyway I'll go with 0-0.
A barcodes player is no concern of ours.
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I'd go with this line up tomorrow, if Cissokho isn't available. It won't be anything like it off course...
------------------------------GUZAN---------------------------------
--------------RICHARDS-------OKORE--------LESCOTT-------------
---------------------------------GANA--------------------------------
-------------------BACUNA------------------VERTEOUT-------------
--------TRAORE---------------------------------------GREALISH----
-------------------------------GESTEDE-----------------------------
SUBS: CLARK, HEPBURN-MURPHY, LYDEN, BUNN, RICHARDSON, HUTTON, SINCLAIR
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I'd go with this line up tomorrow, if Cissokho isn't available. It won't be anything like it off course...
------------------------------GUZAN---------------------------------
--------------RICHARDS-------OKORE--------LESCOTT-------------
---------------------------------GANA--------------------------------
-------------------BACUNA------------------VERTEOUT-------------
--------TRAORE---------------------------------------GREALISH----
-------------------------------GESTEDE-----------------------------
SUBS: CLARK, HEPBURN-MURPHY, LYDEN, BUNN, RICHARDSON, HUTTON, SINCLAIR
It will be interesting to see how he goes if Okore and Lescott are fit. Will Richards go to RB? I have a feeling he won't and he will be paired with Lescott, leaving Hutton and Bacuna as full-backs.
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I'd go with this line up tomorrow, if Cissokho isn't available. It won't be anything like it off course...
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--------------RICHARDS-------OKORE--------LESCOTT-------------
---------------------------------GANA--------------------------------
-------------------BACUNA------------------VERTEOUT-------------
--------TRAORE---------------------------------------GREALISH----
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SUBS: CLARK, HEPBURN-MURPHY, LYDEN, BUNN, RICHARDSON, HUTTON, SINCLAIR
Wow
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Feels like we've been playing with just 10 players anyway.
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where's the bloody midfield?!
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I'd go with this line up tomorrow, if Cissokho isn't available. It won't be anything like it off course...
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--------------RICHARDS-------OKORE--------LESCOTT-------------
---------------------------------GANA--------------------------------
-------------------BACUNA------------------VERTEOUT-------------
--------TRAORE-----------------GIL-------------------GREALISH----
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SUBS: CLARK, HEPBURN-MURPHY, LYDEN, BUNN, RICHARDSON, HUTTON, SINCLAIR
Wow
Yes, I missed Gil behind Gestede.
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Our players need some of Toronto's confidence; we'll beat 'em with ten.
Think we'll see a few changes tomorrow, maybe a surprise or two.
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Unable to get off to sleep tonight - perhaps it's the excitement of the anticipation of our second win and the start of the way back ?
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Unable to get off to sleep tonight - perhaps it's the excitement of the anticipation of our second win and the start of the way back ?
Thats not the light at the end of the tunnel mate, its just a burglars torch.
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Unable to get off to sleep tonight - perhaps it's the excitement of the anticipation of our second win and the start of the way back ?
More likely to be delayed reaction to those sprouts.
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A victory. Finally!
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I shudder to think of the midfield we will see tomorrow. Can't see him taking a gamble on Lydon, so if he won't play Gil, Grealish or Adama from the off, it could well be Gana-Bacuna-Richardson. There's a cheery thought.
I suspect he has probably had enough of Richardson though so expect Gana-Bacuna with Gil ahead and Sinclair and Veretout either side of Gestede. Totally lightweight and I just can't see us scoring. None of that lot have mustered a goal under Garde.
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We have to start well, go at them quick and early, try to silence the crowd. I still expect no better than a draw though. We've done well up there for the last few years but this current side has no balls and too many unforced errors in them. Please prove me wrong Villa.
I see Sam is on the front pages saying he will quit. I hope this builds a toxic atmosphere for the home crowd. Anything to give us an advantage.
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Our combined points total would barely get us out of the relegation zone. It will be unbridled shite.
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
You are a true Villan, Frank. A hero.
I very much hope (he says with a grimace) you and we have some joy today.
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Frank are you mental?
That's commitment way beyond and above the call of duty. I take my hat off to your sir.
On a slight tangent- there was a link on the Guardian website I clicked on this morning to a blogpost containing a very interesting, but also quite depressing post-mortem of our last relegation season. I'd post it in a separate thread if I could find it again, but I can't. It was of interest to me mainly because I was only 13 at the time and hadnt really had a full appreciation of what that season entailed up to now. If anyone can find it, it's worthy of its own thread.
Anyway Sunderland v Villa. Two poor sides and the shit spectacle we've become used to, will inevitably unfold. Reckon we'll scrape a win though. 1-2
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
fair play frank
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I take my hat off to you, Mad Frank the Mad.
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
good luck I take my hat of to you sir, let's all hope you have a victory to reward your dedication!
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
Crazy b'stard! I doth my cap to you Frank. Best of luck ;)
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Today is the day the whole world has been waiting for, Sunderland v Villa. El Crapico.
They're slightly less crap than us and will be more up for it knowing they could still escape if they beat us. 2 or 3 nil to them.
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Win it for Frank!!
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A win today and there's a bit of hope. Over to you, Villa...
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What's the odds on pantilimon time wasting with 60 minutes left
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Draw. A pointless point, so to speak.
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It will be one of those games where the team selection baffles everybody, so many key players out yet we put in the best performance of the season. 3-1 Villa.
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Arise Sir Frank
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Really what have we got to lose
Bunn
Richards okore lescott sissoko
Bacuna Gana veretout Bennett
Gestede Traore
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I'd go with Guzan, Cissokho, Lescott, Okore, Richards, Veretout, Gana, Grealish, Traore, Sinclair and Gestede.
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Huge respect to everyone going up their today.
Sunderland made it hard for Liverpool in the week so it's going to be tough. Let's hope the extra couple of days rest and our decent record up there swings it for us.
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Can't cross for shit Cissokho is not allowed to feature until Monday.
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Can't cross for shit Cissokho is not allowed to feature until Monday.
Why not?
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Throw Traore in, we've got nothing to lose.
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Hoping to see micah at RB today 🙏🏻
Guzan
Micah, Okore, Lescott, Bacuna
Gana, Veretout
Adama, Gill, Grealish
Gestede
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Can't cross for shit Cissokho is not allowed to feature until Monday.
Why not?
Can't find specific info for Portugal but its probably similar to this
The transfer window in France also opens on January 2 but Premier League clubs will have to wait until at least January 4 to sign players from Italy or Spain.
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A win won't be enough to save us, but at least it helps Sunderland to come down with us.
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Isn't it just a recall from a loan?
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Maybe there needs to be a 'working day' in between the window opening and players being eligible.
I'm just guessing here. Does anyone have the definitive answer ?
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
Jammy git. I've got to go to bloody ikea.
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He is taking nine separate train journeys. I don't think I've been on that many trains in my entire life.
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Really what have we got to lose
Bunn
Richards okore lescott sissoko
Bacuna Gana veretout Bennett
Gestede Traore
There's nothing to lose, so we should therefore play with six defenders?
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Joe Bennett? I didn't realise he was still on our books. How on earth did that happen?
One of, if not, the, worse footballers I've ever seen in the claret and blue.
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Joe Bennett? I didn't realise he was still on our books. How on earth did that happen?
One of, if not, the, worse footballers I've ever seen in the claret and blue.
Apparently recalled from his loan at Bournemouth.
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So both Bennett and Cissoko back at the club? I take it we won't be signing a left back then.
Feck sake I thought we'd seen the back of that pair of jokers.
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So both Bennett and Cissoko back at the club? I take it we won't be signing a left back then.
Cissokho makes sense. Amavi is still likely to be our left back next season (and hopefully beyond), so there are bigger priorities to spend money on than getting in another long-term left-back.
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So both Bennett and Cissoko back at the club? I take it we won't be signing a left back then.
Cissokho makes sense. Amavi is still likely to be our left back next season (and hopefully beyond), so there are bigger priorities to spend money on than getting in another long-term left-back.
I'm open minded to Cissokho, but Bennett is an absolute car crash of a footballer. God help us if he gets into this team. Off the top of my head I can't think of a player more out of his depth in the PL who has ever kicked a ball for us. I include Bernie Gallagher in that as well.
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I'm not a massive fan of Bennett, he's not good enough but i'm fine with Cissokho coming back. He's played under Garde before and we do need an actual left back in there.
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Isn't it just a recall from a loan?
Apparently you can't change around your 25 man squad until Monday. That's just what I've been reading since he was recalled, don't take it as gospel though, I'm not totally sure myself.
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The football association probably can't process the faxed in paperwork until Monday. They are a million years behind the rest of the world in almost every aspect, so basic admin to re-register a player on new years day is beyond them. Makes an even bigger mockery of the transfer window.
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So both Bennett and Cissoko back at the club? I take it we won't be signing a left back then.
Feck sake I thought we'd seen the back of that pair of jokers.
This is the club who gave Bacuna a 5 year contract, anything unexpected is possible.
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So both Bennett and Cissoko back at the club? I take it we won't be signing a left back then.
Feck sake I thought we'd seen the back of that pair of jokers.
This is the club who gave Bacuna a 5 year contract, anything unexpected is possible.
Yep. Absolute madness.
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Can't cross for shit Cissokho is not allowed to feature until Monday.
Can't cross for shit Sinclair is unfortunately allowed to feature. We really could do ourselves a favour and get rid of the passenger.*
*Sinclair hattrick today.
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I like it. Only problem is they might score four though, you never know with us.
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Anyone see football focus? What is Mark Lawrensons problem with Villa? Never heard him say anything positive about us. Always putting us down. "Why would Loic Remy go to Villa" "villa going down " etc etc. Can't wait to put the boot in on us. Can't stand the twat.
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Anyone see football focus? What is Mark Lawrensons problem with Villa? Never heard him say anything positive about us. Always putting us down. "Why would Loic Remy go to Villa" "villa going down " etc etc. Can't wait to put the boot in on us. Can't stand the twat.
What do you expect, what's to be positive about?
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I was up at 6 this morning to get from Sussex to Sunderland and am now on the first of several trains. I won't say what the fare is, but it's well into 3 figures. I just hope against hope that Villa will make it worth the travelling. A win would be nice, but at least let's have some heart and commitment.
Jammy git. I've got to go to bloody ikea.
Your a legend mate. I really hope we win for you. C'mon Villa let's do it. 3-1 to the Villa boys.
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Anyone see football focus? What is Mark Lawrensons problem with Villa? Never heard him say anything positive about us. Always putting us down. "Why would Loic Remy go to Villa" "villa going down " etc etc. Can't wait to put the boot in on us. Can't stand the twat.
What do you expect, what's to be positive about?
He has always put the boot in not just now. And he definitely enjoys it.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
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I don't think so. The club is in a mess and there's nothing much to be positive about in reality.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
I suppose a short term loan deal could suit him though. He'll get games which is what he's craving, and he'll be gone if we go down. I'd love to see him at Villa.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
That's the spirit mate. Did you see the guy on here who is travelling from Sussex on numerous trains and spending fortunes following the Villa? Now that's the way to support the boys.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
I suppose a short term loan deal could suit him though. He'll get games which is what he's craving, and he'll be gone if we go down. I'd love to see him at Villa.
Well said brother.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
I suppose a short term loan deal could suit him though. He'll get games which is what he's craving, and he'll be gone if we go down. I'd love to see him at Villa.
i would like to see remy but if chelski do decide he can go on loan he will have better options than coming to the team stinking out the division
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I'd convinced myself Adama will start today.
It's going to be Gestede on his own.
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Cissoko confirmed as eligible to play
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Regarding the Cissohko mystery, according to the OS he's in the 25 man squad and is available to play today.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
That's the spirit mate. Did you see the guy on here who is travelling from Sussex on numerous trains and spending fortunes following the Villa? Now that's the way to support the boys.
So you think Remy will come to us and we'll stay up? I'm not sure even Frank believes that
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I think it will either be a 0-0 draw, or 1-0 to the winners. Only Gestede is capable of scoring for us and I would take a punt on van Aanholt for them. I can't see any of Grealish, Gil or Traore being started as the opposition are capable of being quite physical.
Guzan; Hutton, Bacuna, Richards, Okore; Gana, Veretout, Sanchez, Richardson, Sinclair: Gestede.
Subs: Bunn, Lyden, Clark, Gil, Grealish, Traore, Hepburn-Murphy.
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Anyone see football focus? What is Mark Lawrensons problem with Villa? Never heard him say anything positive about us. Always putting us down. "Why would Loic Remy go to Villa" "villa going down " etc etc. Can't wait to put the boot in on us. Can't stand the twat.
What do you expect, what's to be positive about?
He has always put the boot in not just now. And he definitely enjoys it.
Even if you're right, he's one of many that are having a field day ripping into our shambolic mob. We've become a laughing stock now - and who can honestly say that this hasn't been coming? What gets me is the complete lack of sympathy for the poor sods who've had to watch this rubbish for so long. Still, we'll just have to suck-it-up until such times when we finally have a side that shows we aren't a club synonymous with abject failure. What doesn't kill ya makes you stronger. UTV.
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He's right though. Why would Remy come here? And we are going down.
That's the spirit mate. Did you see the guy on here who is travelling from Sussex on numerous trains and spending fortunes following the Villa? Now that's the way to support the boys.
So you think Remy will come to us and we'll stay up? I'm not sure even Frank believes that
Dunno but I live in hope.