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Title: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 18, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
Monday 25th November 2014 8pm KO at The Hawthorns

0-2 away win.

Benteke 43, 48
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tom_Mc9? on November 18, 2013, 12:27:34 PM
1-1. Is Gabby back? If he is, he'll score. If not, it'll be Benteke - he's due a goal.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 18, 2013, 12:29:43 PM
6 points to the Villa. I am including the pre match prediction for the one later on in the season.

Fuck them. Fuck them hard. Fuck them over. Just fuck them. Gabby to route them (if he is fit).

To be fair I have a minor soft spot for them having not been subject to too many of their fans as grew up in a predominantly (though not by an means exclusive) Nose's area. Also their FA Cup winning player's parents used to live next door to my cousins back in the 1970's. He gave me some football books when I was about 5.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 18, 2013, 12:33:52 PM
1-1 or 2-2. And Benteke will score.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 18, 2013, 12:34:14 PM
The Bitters? Isn't that how Man United refer to Man City?

2-1, Villa
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 18, 2013, 12:37:03 PM
They are the bitter birds.

1-1.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Simon Ward on November 18, 2013, 12:44:33 PM
1-0 away win Benteke to break their hearts in the most boring TV game ever. Not that I will care!
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Des Little on November 18, 2013, 12:48:02 PM
2-1 to the Villa.  Deehan and De Bilde for us, Hopkins for them
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 01:10:00 PM
Whatever the result, the Bitters will claim some sort of moral victory, the sanctimonious no marks.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 01:50:20 PM
I see Mulumbu has said playing us is like playing in the European Cup.

Ay, we know what they are alright.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/11/18/west-broms-youssouf-mulumbu-stokes-up-derby-heat/
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on November 18, 2013, 01:56:03 PM
Probably a rather unattractive score draw.
1-1

Benteke.
Some twunt for them.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on November 18, 2013, 02:04:28 PM
2-1 Villa, Benteke x2.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 02:31:16 PM
2-1 villa win in a hard fought derby with the ref flashing cards like confetti- at least one red .
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: supertom on November 18, 2013, 02:51:07 PM
2-1 villa win in a hard fought derby with the ref flashing cards like confetti- at least one red .
My gut would tell me that Westwood is due a red card soon. It seems almost inevitable.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on November 18, 2013, 03:35:38 PM
We are going to batter them in the game and hammer them for not beating Chelsea, I'm well up for this...Come on Villa boys Villa 3-1
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 18, 2013, 03:37:52 PM
Given where we both are in the league, the fact that we haven't conceded in three away games and them being what they am, our odds of 29/10 are phenomenally good value.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 03:39:48 PM
Given where we both are in the league, the fact that we haven't conceded in three away games and them being what they am, our odds of 29/10 are phenomenally good value.
I get the feeling from your posts down the years that this is THE  game you really want to win mr W ?
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
You're not baiting a certain response from Dave are you Eastie?
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 03:43:40 PM
You're not baiting a certain response from Dave are you Eastie?

Certainly not , just noted that dave is no admirer of those chaps from smethwick.
Not sure if he lives or works among them but I get the feeling he would really love to beat them more than most :)
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 18, 2013, 04:02:50 PM
Midland derby 1-1 guaranteed.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 04:12:13 PM
You're not baiting a certain response from Dave are you Eastie?

Certainly not , just noted that dave is no admirer of those chaps from smethwick.
Not sure if he lives or works among them but I get the feeling he would really love to beat them more than most :)

I think its because he is a Brummie living amongst them...
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 18, 2013, 04:29:25 PM
3-1 Benteke 2, and Delph
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richtheholtender on November 18, 2013, 04:29:48 PM
0-4 Bacuna with 4 free kicks.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on November 18, 2013, 04:35:24 PM
3-1 to Villa with Benteke amongst the goals. Similar to last year without the poor second half.
My baggies supporting brother in law was telling me yesterday not to worry about relegation this year as there are probably 3 teams worse than us, he and them need pulling down many pegs
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 18, 2013, 04:37:49 PM
You're not baiting a certain response from Dave are you Eastie?

Certainly not , just noted that dave is no admirer of those chaps from smethwick.
Not sure if he lives or works among them but I get the feeling he would really love to beat them more than most :)

I think its because he is a Brummie living amongst them...

Same here.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mal on November 18, 2013, 04:48:37 PM
The Bitters? Isn't that how Man United refer to Man City?

2-1, Villa

It would be nice if someone could amend the title of the thread in light of this unless someone can produce evidence of the expression being in use with reference to WBA as far back as 1969 at least.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 18, 2013, 05:01:01 PM
Would 'The Bitter Birds' be better? Or the Throstles? Or the Stripies? Or West Bromwich Strollers?
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Miguelito on November 18, 2013, 05:17:01 PM
SKybet have us at 3-1 to win....
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 05:18:38 PM
We need a poll!

1) Bitter Birds
2) Stripey Filth
3) Sandwell Town
4) Tesco Bags
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 05:25:03 PM
We need a poll!

1) Bitter Birds
2) Stripey Filth
3) Sandwell Town
4) Tesco Bags

Why not west brom? If pushed to choose from the 4 suggested I would opt for the tesco one.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 05:26:11 PM
You can have West Brom if it has the prefix of "Fuck" before it. Deal?
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
You can have West Brom if it has the prefix of "Fuck" before it. Deal?

You old rascal :)
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Leicester_Villian on November 18, 2013, 05:38:08 PM
One thought ...really cant see referee (Micheal Oliver) awarding us a penalty after all the coverage they had at Chelsea
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 05:38:43 PM
@MatKendrick: Michael Oliver will referee Aston Villa's match at West Brom next Monday - not Andre Marriner, sadly ;-) #avfc
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 18, 2013, 05:51:33 PM
I like the Bitter Birds or Stripeyfilth. Both suit them.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on November 18, 2013, 05:57:11 PM
Birmingham postcode, call them west birmingham, sure they would like that
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 05:58:39 PM
I like the Bitter Birds or Stripeyfilth. Both suit them.

May I ask who you see as the bigger rival - WBA or blues ? The reason i ask is bacause you are so to speak being enemy lines in warley.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 18, 2013, 06:07:52 PM
I see Mulumbu has said playing us is like playing in the European Cup.

Ay, we know what they are alright.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/11/18/west-broms-youssouf-mulumbu-stokes-up-derby-heat/

The second someone compares a league game to "their cup final" or similar, you have all the evidence you need that they're a bunch of a paranoid no marks, with an inferiority complex the size of the Milky Way and can only claim to be well balanced because of an equal number of chips on both shoulders.

We know what they are, they know what they are, the whole fucking universe knows what they are.  Jealous.

See also Small Heath, Coventry, Wolves.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 18, 2013, 06:08:36 PM
We need a poll!

1) Bitter Birds
2) Stripey Filth
3) Sandwell Town
4) Tesco Bags

If I'm allowed to choose, I will opt for Sandwell Town.

 :D
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 18, 2013, 06:59:20 PM
Just perused your forum briefly. The Admin/Mod team there come across as being respectful so I've amended this thread accordingly.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 18, 2013, 07:10:23 PM
Sky are suggesting Benteke might not make this one. Still think a score draw is on the cards though.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 07:10:59 PM
Just perused your forum briefly. The Admin/Mod team there come across as being respectful so I've amended this thread accordingly.

Good man.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 18, 2013, 07:21:33 PM
Sky are suggesting Benteke might not make this one. Still think a score draw is on the cards though.

What is wrong with Benteke and what are your replacements like?

I've seen nothing of Kozak, Tonev or Helenius.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 18, 2013, 07:24:19 PM
The Bitters? Isn't that how Man United refer to Man City?

2-1, Villa

It would be nice if someone could amend the title of the thread in light of this unless someone can produce evidence of the expression being in use with reference to WBA as far back as 1969 at least.

Have a job doing that as I only came up with it about 5 years ago.

Anyway, them 1 Us 3. We know what they are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 18, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Benteke may have come back from his injury too soon and just hasn't hit form yet. He has still scored 5 out of 11 mind.

Tonev is more of a wideman/number 10. He is slowly settling in, but seems to be trying too hard, as every time he takes a pop at goal he tries to murder the ball.

Kozak lacks Benteke's pace, but has a good first touch and has clever movement. Its a massive change of pace, literally, from Serie A to the Premier League, but he has the skill set to do ok in this league.

Helenius hasn't really featured.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 07:26:21 PM
 - slight knock , out of Belgium game but fit for the Albion according to kendrick-

@HLNinEngeland: Christian #Benteke (slight knock on knee) is training individually. He probably won't play against Japan, but will be fit to play WBA.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 18, 2013, 07:31:55 PM
Sky are suggesting Benteke might not make this one. Still think a score draw is on the cards though.

What is wrong with Benteke and what are your replacements like?

I've seen nothing of Kozak, Tonev or Helenius.

He injured his knee in the Belgium/ Colombia game. Kozak has a good workrate and has started to show signs of improvement.
Tonev is an erratic genius!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 07:43:16 PM
Sky are suggesting Benteke might not make this one. Still think a score draw is on the cards though.

What is wrong with Benteke and what are your replacements like?

I've seen nothing of Kozak, Tonev or Helenius.

He injured his knee in the Belgium/ Colombia game. Kozak has a good workrate and has started to show signs of improvement.
Tonev is an erratic genius!

Kendrick tweeted about this earlier today - seems he will be fit against Albion and may miss the japan game as a precaution- nothing to worry about here - kendrick is far more reliable than sky sports regarding villa.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 18, 2013, 07:48:47 PM
Hmm we shall see. Im more interested in what Lambert says than a newspaper hack. No comment yet from the manager.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 07:53:19 PM
If benteke was ruled out of the Albion game he would have returned to brum by now rather than still be training in Belgium.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chipsticks on November 18, 2013, 07:55:35 PM
I can't see us keeping a 4th consecutive clean sheet away from home, but on the other hand Benteke's due some goals.

2-2, Benteke x 2, a defender from a corner and a penalty for them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 18, 2013, 08:19:18 PM
If we have Gabby-Delph-Benteke 0-2 looking forward to this ........
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 08:22:39 PM
If we have Gabby-Delph-Benteke 0-2 looking forward to this ........

I don't think gabby will be fit .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 18, 2013, 08:36:53 PM
G Agbonlahor Ankle/Foot Injury 25th Nov 13 Physio room. Do you know something we don`t eastie ?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 18, 2013, 08:39:33 PM
G Agbonlahor Ankle/Foot Injury 25th Nov 13 Physio room. Do you know something we don`t eastie ?

Just that it was said last week at his press conference that gabby was very doubtful for the Albion game , Delph and Weimann should be available though .

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Aston Villa could welcome back Fabian Delph from injury for their Premier League clash with West Brom, boss Paul Lambert has revealed.

Delph missed Villa's top-flight meetings against West Ham and Cardiff City with illness and a knee injury respectively.

However, manager Paul Lambert is confident the midfielder could make his 10th Premier League appearance of the season against Steve Clarke's side on November 25.

"I think Fabian will be okay for the West Brom game," the Scot told reporters, adding that he was also hopeful of returns for Antonio Luna and Andreas Weimann.

Both have suffered with hamstring injuries but could feature at the Hawthorns, although Gabriel Agbonlahor is doubtful due to his ankle problem.

"We have caught the international break at the right time," Lambert admitted.

"Our injuries have been relentless. When you look at the side we put out we've got a lot of injuries.

"We've got half a team out. It shows when you have two academy kids on the bench."

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 18, 2013, 08:41:41 PM
I saw Gabby after the Cardiff game outside the Trinity and he was wearing an ankle brace. Hopefully it was on as a precaution but it doesn't bode well for the Albion game.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 18, 2013, 08:59:01 PM
G Agbonlahor Ankle/Foot Injury 25th Nov 13 Physio room. Do you know something we don`t eastie ?

Just that it was said last week at his press conference that gabby was very doubtful for the Albion game , Delph and Weimann should be available though .

Aston Villa could welcome back Fabian Delph from injury for their Premier League clash with West Brom, boss Paul Lambert has revealed.

Delph missed Villa's top-flight meetings against West Ham and Cardiff City with illness and a knee injury respectively.

However, manager Paul Lambert is confident the midfielder could make his 10th Premier League appearance of the season against Steve Clarke's side on November 25.

"I think Fabian will be okay for the West Brom game," the Scot told reporters, adding that he was also hopeful of returns for Antonio Luna and Andreas Weimann.

Both have suffered with hamstring injuries but could feature at the Hawthorns, although Gabriel Agbonlahor is doubtful due to his ankle problem.

"We have caught the international break at the right time," Lambert admitted.

"Our injuries have been relentless. When you look at the side we put out we've got a lot of injuries.

"We've got half a team out. It shows when you have two academy kids on the bench."



Fair play eastie. But PL does have a habit of only telling you what he feels is appropriate, so we will see ......
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 18, 2013, 09:15:50 PM
I reckon Gabby will be fit for this one.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 18, 2013, 09:31:35 PM
0-0 until Tonev comes on with half hour to go.
Bit of a run and a crazy shot from 35 yards - 1-0.
Repeat - 2-0.
Head homewards happy, call in at pub and go to bed slightly pi**ed, to sleep the sleep of the righteous.
UTV!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on November 18, 2013, 09:48:43 PM
I reckon Gabby will be fit for this one.

I do as well. If Benteke is out it is imperative he plays to give Kozac some back up. Of course if Benteke isnt fit Lambert(quite rightly) will not let on until the last possible minute.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 18, 2013, 11:03:22 PM
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Not too bothered about this. The Villa aren't in our league anymore. Routine 3 points at home for us. I expect Villa to be dragged into a relegation battle, as we go into the winter and the busy Christmas period they do not have the strength in depth to deal with it. Shame they used to be a small big club.


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Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 18, 2013, 11:08:02 PM
Wankbion 0-2 Villa
                     Gabby (33)
                     Clark (67)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on November 18, 2013, 11:30:47 PM
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Not too bothered about this. The Villa aren't in our league anymore. Routine 3 points at home for us. I expect Villa to be dragged into a relegation battle, as we go into the winter and the busy Christmas period they do not have the strength in depth to deal with it. Shame they used to be a small big club.


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Is that a real quote from one of their fans?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 18, 2013, 11:31:01 PM
Maybe a little early, but I'm extremely up for this. Time for THAT famous rant.

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The fact that every time the Hawthorns gets near capacity they can't cope, the Alex Cropley game when they set out for ninety minutes to kick anything in claret and blue, Alan Baker, John Woodward, Ray Graydon, their sanctimonious holier-than-thou we're only a little team and we're going to enjoy ourselves everybody likes us attitude, the fact that their most famous supporter made a career out of humiliating their most famous ex-player - a man who it is now known was suffering from a degenerative brain disease, their absolute hatred of us (and me or Coops can supply a list of places to pop into before or after the match for anyone who thinks that they're all nice and friendly), the time we beat them 7-2 in a reserve match then in the return a month later they had nine of their first team playing because they couldn't bear losing again, their pretence of being nowhere near Birmingham despite their post code and phone number, their stupid jumping up and down and making twats of themselves in the name of atmosphere, letting the likes of Soccer AM makes fools of them and degrading all football supporters everywhere by implication, still going on about Ronnie Allen and 1959 like it's the most important thing to ever happen in their sad, woebegotten lives and it probably is, not being able to get a drink anywhere near the ground, constant whining of it ay fair and the world's against them, just watch tomorrow how many of them blame the referee for all seventeen of our goals, moaning that the local press are biased against them despite the fact that they've got more supporters in the media than us and Small Heath put together, Adrian Chiles, Skinner again, endlessly complaining that they would have won the league in 1979 if the weather hadn't turned cold in January like it wasn't the same for every other club in the first division, bleating on and on and on about how loyal they are just because their crowds didn't get as low as the Wolves like that makes any difference, having the highest percentage of middle aged fat blokes walking round supermarkets in football shirts of anywhere in the world including Newcastle, having a civic reception for finishing third in the third division, showing Ossie Ardiles what Smethwick looks like from the top of a double decker bus then wondering why he fecked off the next week, every time a player leaves them they always moan he's only gone for the money even when they're swapping Smethwick for Madrid, Willie Johnstone, that bloody stupid bird stuck on the top of the scoreboard, those executive boxes with corrugated iron roofs, playing the Liquidator just like their big bad rivals in the Stadium of Yellow, that stupid metal sheeting at the back of the old away end that meant I missed every goal when we were three up at half time there, having to play in the morning in the FA Cup 1990, the half time message in the second division "Will Villa supporters please move forward, there are still some trying to get in", boasting about giving a policeman brain damage at Villa Park in 1978 but they're still nice & friendly, being surrounded by the bastards in the Witton Lane stand in 1974, never enough buses back down Holyhead Road, being the only local league club to insist on playing Birmingham Senior Cup games at home and thus depriving the local non-league teams of a decent gate, thinking they have a God-given right to park anywhere they like and moaning when they get tickets for parking on double yellow lines, you can bet there'll be more face paint and stupid wigs per supporter than at any other ground in the country and I include Newcastle in that again, the six wankers shouting their gobs off on the bus when I was going back home after the game in 1982, the very quiet one who was left when his five mates got off, the 1887 cup final when they planned to get the train back via Worcester to avoid travelling through Birmingham with the cup, except the cup went straight back to Aston without them ha fucking ha, coming up and saying that they weren't going to spend any money because they wanted to go straight back down and use the parachute payments to get back again, Skinner and Chiles walking up and down Witton Lane looking for camera crews, making out Bryan Robson was a returning hero when they'd hated him ever since he left, forgetting now that they wanted him hung a month after he became manager, the day they stayed up and reckoned everybody in the country loves them because they're such a nice inoffensive club with wonderful fans, having to get coaches to come three miles down Island Road, that fucking sanctimonious Grorty Dick fanzine that used to call us arrogant yet made out that they were such a big club, then had a celebration issue when they beat us in a youth match I kid you not, being the only Villa supporter in a school of 1,600 of the bastards when they didn't care about Wolves, getting a manager sacked because of a low crowd for a pre-season friendly, Alex Cropley again, Eric Clapton and I'm sure UB40 used to say they supported them when they were good, the fucking Albion that is not UB40, having their end named after a city they hate, an evening paper that treats playing Manchester United in the league in the same patronising way that Kidderminster Harriers would get in the FA Cup, Jim Cumbes dropping down two divisions because our crowds were bigger, treating reserve matches as something really big and important, having a shopping centre in the town and gates at their ground named after a player who scored in a cup final and cost England the World Cup, this supposed 'big vlub' making a fuss of winning the third division play-offs, Terry Wills who although he is a very nice man should be told that he does not have to go on every radio station after every match,asking us to play friendlies and still treating our supporters like shit, wanting every manager sacked after three defeats, Bob Taylor, every one of their supporters over fifty was at the ground when they relegated us in 1959 and will talk forever about it but none of them remembers us stopping them winning the league four years earlier, you're not telling me it's a coincidence that Alistair Fucking Brown got a job working for them after his thuggish career was mercifully brought to an end, knowing more about how Bayern Munich should have won the European Cup in 1982 than Bayern Munich do, my irritating little shit of a cousin Luke who used to support Manchester United then got a season ticket up there when they got into the Premier League, including Prisoner 820468 Hughes, L, in a book called Cult Heroes and I bet the family of the bloke he killed have got a better and similar description for him, some knobhead I heard saying all he wanted to do when they went down was come back up win the cup and kick fuck out the Villa then talked about football for ten minutes and never once went off the subject of how much he hates us, I bet that Everton fan they blinded thinks they're lovely, a town centre where the best pub is a Wetherspoon's and the best restaurant is McDonalds, how every time we beat them and there'sa  lot to choose from they always complain that they'd rather lose than play like us like they have a choice, putting reserve teams out in games they're going to lsoe anyway but it's alright for them to do it, every tiem they come up saying they don't intend to spend any money because we're ony a little team and we're doing ever so well to be here in the first place, Tony Mowbray always claiming moral victories...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 18, 2013, 11:32:36 PM
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Not too bothered about this. The Villa aren't in our league anymore. Routine 3 points at home for us. I expect Villa to be dragged into a relegation battle, as we go into the winter and the busy Christmas period they do not have the strength in depth to deal with it. Shame they used to be a small big club.


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Is that a real quote from one of their fans?

Yep.

http://westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=12509.25
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 18, 2013, 11:41:15 PM
over the years villa have had a habit of beating teams when they dont deserve it (European cup final anyone?)

They know more about that game than we do.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 19, 2013, 01:52:06 AM
over the years villa have had a habit of beating teams when they dont deserve it (European cup final anyone?)

They know more about that game than we do.

Yeah, the amount of times they steer the conversation towards that night then cry when we mention it makes me laugh. They really are a strange bunch.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 19, 2013, 02:12:24 AM
over the years villa have had a habit of beating teams when they dont deserve it (European cup final anyone?)

They know more about that game than we do.

Yeah, the amount of times they steer the conversation towards that night then cry when we mention it makes me laugh. They really are a strange bunch.

It's all part of their wanting it both ways mentality. They want to play with the big boys but when we point out that we've done things like win trophies and have great players we're being arrogant.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on November 19, 2013, 07:21:23 AM
My confidence is massively dependent on who's fit. With Delph and at least benteke and Weimann back I'd be pretty confident. Gabby too, but he seems the most doubtful. Would be very worried if Guzan is out!

If we don't have our forwards and Delph back I wouldn't be surprised to see the return of 532

But I'd be hoping to see:

Guzan - Lowton vlaar Clark luna - sylla Westwood Delph - bacuna benteke Weimann

Not entirely happy about bacuna in a front three but I just wouldn't trust Tonev in this one and kozak plus benteke requires a change in shape
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 19, 2013, 08:11:59 AM
I reckon Gabby will be fit for this one.

I do as well. If Benteke is out it is imperative he plays to give Kozac some back up. Of course if Benteke isnt fit Lambert(quite rightly) will not let on until the last possible minute.

Benteke will play - gabby will not ! (IMHO)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 19, 2013, 08:16:39 AM
over the years villa have had a habit of beating teams when they dont deserve it (European cup final anyone?)

They know more about that game than we do.

Yeah, the amount of times they steer the conversation towards that night then cry when we mention it makes me laugh. They really are a strange bunch.

It's all part of their wanting it both ways mentality. They want to play with the big boys but when we point out that we've done things like win trophies and have great players we're being arrogant.

This is a club who think knocking Valencia out of the UEFA cup in the third round in 1978 tops anything Villa or Forest did in the following few years.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 19, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
Would love to win this one but again think a draw is more likely here and wouldn't be the worst result as long as we follow it up with a win against Sunderland. WBA have been in good form lately home and away.

1-1.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 19, 2013, 10:42:36 AM
over the years villa have had a habit of beating teams when they dont deserve it (European cup final anyone?)

They know more about that game than we do.

Yeah, the amount of times they steer the conversation towards that night then cry when we mention it makes me laugh. They really are a strange bunch.

It's all part of their wanting it both ways mentality. They want to play with the big boys but when we point out that we've done things like win trophies and have great players we're being arrogant.

This is a club who think knocking Valencia out of the UEFA cup in the third round in 1978 tops anything Villa or Forest did in the following few years.

And finishing third in the league makes them the greatest team in the history of football.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 19, 2013, 11:27:01 AM
over the years villa have had a habit of beating teams when they dont deserve it (European cup final anyone?)

They know more about that game than we do.

Yeah, the amount of times they steer the conversation towards that night then cry when we mention it makes me laugh. They really are a strange bunch.

It's all part of their wanting it both ways mentality. They want to play with the big boys but when we point out that we've done things like win trophies and have great players we're being arrogant.

This is a club who think knocking Valencia out of the UEFA cup in the third round in 1978 tops anything Villa or Forest did in the following few years.

And finishing third in the league makes them the greatest team in the history of football.

Personally speaking who do you dislike more Dave - This Lot or The Neanderthals from Bordesley.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 19, 2013, 01:11:51 PM
Or phrased another way; which is worse Dave, the Ebola virus or Leprosy?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 19, 2013, 04:43:46 PM
It's very amusing the reasons they are coming up with for struggling to sell 24,000 tickets for their cup final. We know what they are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Miguelito on November 19, 2013, 05:04:14 PM
How dare they question the intelligence of Tamworthians. This is war now, come on Villa.  ;)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 19, 2013, 05:14:21 PM
It's very amusing the reasons they are coming up with for struggling to sell 24,000 tickets for their cup final. We know what they are.

24,000 is about the same allocation as you get in the FA Cup final, so using that logic, they have sold out for their cup final.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 19, 2013, 06:55:44 PM
Not sure where to put this mirror assessment of things -


You read part one yesterday and now Bearded Genuis is back to give his verdicts on positions number seven to 13 in the Premier League.

How have the league's nearly men been doing, and what have they got to look forward to for the rest of the season? All that  and, oh, don't forget BG's poppelgangers.

Over to the man himself for part two of his Premier League (so far) review:
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Aston Villa

Ah Villa. Villa Villa Villa. Villa Villa Villa Villa . What have you become? I remember when you were sexy, exciting and relevant. Flirting with the top of the table; copping off with European qualification; enjoying dirty weekends at Wembley.

Look at you now. Driving a Ford Focus and wearing an oversized fleece by George. There’s only so much you can blame on having too many kids. I know Paul Lambert’s a good man. I know he does his best to make you happy. I just didn’t think you’d settle for ‘nice’.

Poppelgänger: Manic Street Preachers. You have to remind yourself they were good once. They got dull; they got fat. Worst of all they got comfortable.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on November 19, 2013, 06:59:09 PM
WTF is that all about?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 19, 2013, 07:20:03 PM
And what has it got to do with the game?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 19, 2013, 07:34:05 PM
And who the fucks Bearded Genius?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 19, 2013, 07:35:20 PM
Dennis Mortimer?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 19, 2013, 07:35:44 PM
What's a poppelganger?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 19, 2013, 08:02:40 PM
What's a poppelganger?
A pop music doppleganger?
Just a guess.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 19, 2013, 08:03:51 PM
What's a poppelganger?
A pop music doppleganger?
Just a guess.
No idea what it's got to do with anything to do with the Villa, btw!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 19, 2013, 08:17:07 PM
I like the Manics. They're my favourite band.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 19, 2013, 10:59:53 PM
Actually, I kinda know what he's getting at - we used to be cool, following us was always a bit of a cult thing in my mind because it made you different where I lived (and that wasn't why I follow us, it's in the family genes). Now, if I'm being honest, it's mostly pretty boring with one or two lovely exceptions such as the end of last season, albeit for all the wrong reasons...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 20, 2013, 08:18:35 AM
I would say that describing us as boring is about the most ridiculous adjective I can think of and completely removed from reality.
 
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 20, 2013, 11:38:27 AM
What Nice Terry Wills has to say. http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/love-thy-neighbour/
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on November 20, 2013, 11:54:01 AM
What Nice Terry Wills has to say. http://thebirminghampress.com/2013/11/love-thy-neighbour/

Ablangahor?  Is this a new signing I've missed?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 20, 2013, 12:13:53 PM
I would say that describing us as boring is about the most ridiculous adjective I can think of and completely removed from reality.
 


I'm not so sure given recent performances and quite frankly and very sadly, it is how fans of other teams I know see us. Or boring and irrelevant to be precise. That may well be a reflection on them etc and yes, many of them are johnny come latelys who have no real deep affection or knowledge of the game, but it is what it is and that's what they think. Perhaps it's just the ones I know and granted, not everyone thinks that but there are lots of hints out there that this is the general view of us at this moment in history
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 20, 2013, 12:14:44 PM
To be honest if ever we were to get a dodgy ridiculous penalty in the last minute to win a match I hope Monday will be the night - I would just love it !
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 20, 2013, 12:27:19 PM
And who the fucks Bearded Genius?

Tony moon :)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 20, 2013, 12:35:53 PM
To be honest if ever we were to get a dodgy ridiculous penalty in the last minute to win a match I hope Monday will be the night - I would just love it !

This would be my preferred method of victory. Sour faced Albion fans paying us a back-handed compliment by moaning that decisions always go in favour of the big clubs. 
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on November 20, 2013, 12:58:58 PM
We'll finish the job from last season. Benteke will get back on the goal trail and our overall better defensive play will see us through to 2-0 win. Cue lots of crying Tesco's blaming everything but themselves followed by a letter to FIFA requesting a replay, claiming that it is unfair that Villa are better than them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CJ on November 20, 2013, 01:27:18 PM
Think this will be a draw again - 2-2, but now that the Boggies have received an  apology about the soft penalty awarded to Chelsea (http://sports.howzit.msn.com/football/baggies-get-penalty-apology) from referees' chief Mike Riley, I think either they will be given a soft penalty and/or we'll be denied a stonewall one which could influence the outcome
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 20, 2013, 01:34:20 PM
I would say that describing us as boring is about the most ridiculous adjective I can think of and completely removed from reality.
 


I'm not so sure given recent performances and quite frankly and very sadly, it is how fans of other teams I know see us. Or boring and irrelevant to be precise. That may well be a reflection on them etc and yes, many of them are johnny come latelys who have no real deep affection or knowledge of the game, but it is what it is and that's what they think. Perhaps it's just the ones I know and granted, not everyone thinks that but there are lots of hints out there that this is the general view of us at this moment in history

I would say that describing us as boring is about the most ridiculous adjective I can think of and completely removed from reality.
 


I'm not so sure given recent performances and quite frankly and very sadly, it is how fans of other teams I know see us. Or boring and irrelevant to be precise. That may well be a reflection on them etc and yes, many of them are johnny come latelys who have no real deep affection or knowledge of the game, but it is what it is and that's what they think. Perhaps it's just the ones I know and granted, not everyone thinks that but there are lots of hints out there that this is the general view of us at this moment in history

A run of four games makes us dull?

Lambert's reign has been very exciting and utterly unpredictable. I would love to turn up knowing what was going to happen, to be so tediously predictable, but we’re not in the least predicatble.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 20, 2013, 01:36:31 PM
I would say that describing us as boring is about the most ridiculous adjective I can think of and completely removed from reality.
 


I'm not so sure given recent performances and quite frankly and very sadly, it is how fans of other teams I know see us. Or boring and irrelevant to be precise. That may well be a reflection on them etc and yes, many of them are johnny come latelys who have no real deep affection or knowledge of the game, but it is what it is and that's what they think. Perhaps it's just the ones I know and granted, not everyone thinks that but there are lots of hints out there that this is the general view of us at this moment in history

I would say that describing us as boring is about the most ridiculous adjective I can think of and completely removed from reality.
 


I'm not so sure given recent performances and quite frankly and very sadly, it is how fans of other teams I know see us. Or boring and irrelevant to be precise. That may well be a reflection on them etc and yes, many of them are johnny come latelys who have no real deep affection or knowledge of the game, but it is what it is and that's what they think. Perhaps it's just the ones I know and granted, not everyone thinks that but there are lots of hints out there that this is the general view of us at this moment in history

A run of four games makes us dull?

Lambert's reign has been very exciting and utterly unpredictable. I would love to turn up knowing what was going to happen, to be so tediously predictable, but we’re not in the least predicatble.


Unpredictable = yes
Very exciting = no
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 20, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Each to their own.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 20, 2013, 02:04:32 PM
Each to their own.

What's so exciting about this Villa team?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 20, 2013, 02:07:52 PM
It isn't just a run of four games though is it? Not in truth. I've followed the Villa through the 70s, 80s, 90s and beyond and I know which era has been the most boring. By a mile..

Each to his own as you say Ads and I don't wish to hijack the thread. I knew my view (though it is rather, the view of others) would be unpopular
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 20, 2013, 02:32:10 PM
Each to their own.

May I ask how long you have been a fan ads if you think the lambert reign has been very exciting?
I would say the early 80s , mid to late 70s and early 90s were all very exciting but. Certainly not the last 16 months.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 20, 2013, 05:14:06 PM
To be honest if ever we were to get a dodgy ridiculous penalty in the last minute to win a match I hope Monday will be the night - I would just love it !

This would be my preferred method of victory. Sour faced Albion fans paying us a back-handed compliment by moaning that decisions always go in favour of the big clubs. 

Mine too. I am caught between what I would love more; bladdering them 4 or 5 nil or instead winning via a dubious decision in the last seconds of the game.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 20, 2013, 07:34:14 PM
To be honest if ever we were to get a dodgy ridiculous penalty in the last minute to win a match I hope Monday will be the night - I would just love it !

This would be my preferred method of victory. Sour faced Albion fans paying us a back-handed compliment by moaning that decisions always go in favour of the big clubs. 

Mine too. I am caught between what I would love more; bladdering them 4 or 5 nil or instead winning via a dubious decision in the last seconds of the game.
The 4 or 5 nil bladdering please.
With every fu**ing topping you can think of!
UTV!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 20, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
I want ten. With a dodgy penalty decision aswell.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 20, 2013, 10:44:44 PM
Any win would do me ......
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on November 20, 2013, 10:46:34 PM
Ten nil, the second five of which are dodgy penalties.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on November 21, 2013, 02:54:23 AM
Genuinely never understood why people crave these one-nil dodgy penalty type scenarios. The best way to get at your rivals, to remind them exactly 'what they are' is to outplay them and win convincingly, scoring good goals?! When we win undeservedly it always takes the shine off it for me, and when we lose undeservedly through bad officiating, it tends to offer more than a crumb of comfort (ie Chelsea away).

Smacks of small heathens hating us more than they love the blues.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dekko on November 21, 2013, 08:03:46 AM
^^^
I want to smash them all over the park as well.  But if we win by a dodgy penalty, it'll be really really really funny.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 08:31:21 AM
Genuinely never understood why people crave these one-nil dodgy penalty type scenarios. The best way to get at your rivals, to remind them exactly 'what they are' is to outplay them and win convincingly, scoring good goals?! When we win undeservedly it always takes the shine off it for me, and when we lose undeservedly through bad officiating, it tends to offer more than a crumb of comfort (ie Chelsea away).

Smacks of small heathens hating us more than they love the blues.

The Albion have apparently complained to the league on four occasions about penalties this season. "It bay fair Tom!". That club has a history of vaulting onto the moral high-horse and if you really wanted to make their heads explode, then some dubious decision would be the way to do it.

And you have it the wrong way round. The fact they hate us down to the very fibre of our being, is exactly why it would be absolutely, bloody hilarious.

Of course if we want to stick a shed load past them, then that is fine too.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 21, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
They have now had an 'apology'.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 21, 2013, 08:35:17 AM
Sorry! (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25019015)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 21, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
Now they are just waiting for that apology from Tim Buzaglo.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 09:20:40 AM
They have now had an 'apology'.

How it should have been done.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 21, 2013, 09:37:51 AM
I like that. That is very, very funny. 3-1 Villa by the way.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 21, 2013, 09:47:35 AM
I'm not ok with them making it public that they got a phone call to apologise, that's pathetic as far as I'm concerned, every team has shit decisions against them, most probably complain and I'm sure a fair few get apologies, but to make that public and talk about doing it for the benefit of 'everyone' is just a desperate attempt to influence refs in their favour.

I'd be happy to see them get a dodgy decision against them every game after the Herd sending off a few years ago where Hodgson and Olsson just outright lied about the incident.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 09:58:10 AM
It'll be interesting to see how many decisions they get now this has come out. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they got a penalty on Monday.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Boz on November 21, 2013, 11:59:43 AM
It'll be interesting to see how many decisions they get now this has come out. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they got a penalty on Monday.

I suspect they've gone public about the apology before our game in an effort to sway officials to lean towards them for close decisions next Monday. A bit like SAF and his tricks before big games.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 01:16:10 PM
Quote from: the mirror

By James Nursey | 21/11/13 

It's the West Brom v Aston Villa derby on Monday night.

It's set to be another closely-fought encounter with both sides level on 14 points in the Premier League. Last season the clubs drew 1-1 at Villa Park and 2-2 at The Hawthorns.

And it will be highly ironic if in-form Baggies midfielder Morgan Amalfitano helps decide Monday's televised contest.

Because I understand Amalfitano was actually lined up to come to Villa Park in the summer of 2011 on a bargain Bosman by then-boss Gerard Houllier.

The French manager clearly had excellent contacts back in his native France because he also had a deal teed up for Yohan Cabaye.

At the time Amalfitano was producing consistently good performances in Ligue 1 with Lorient and was out of contract that summer. As it transpired, Houllier was forced to step down from his managerial role at Villa due to recurring health problems.

Houllier's long-standing transfer targets were shelved as he quit the club in June 2011. Lille midfielder Cabaye went on to sign for Newcastle and be a smash hit there, while Amalfitano instead went on to sign for Marseille in July.

But I understand from Villa Park sources both men held talks - with Cabaye visiting the training ground - and were likely to join.

Amalfitano did eventually turn up in the West Midlands when loaned out by Marseille this summer. Since then the attacking French midfielder, 28, has been a revelation at Albion and quickly endeared himself to fans.



He already has two league goals and his arrival on deadline day has really helped transform the Baggies' prospects. And you could arguably say his creative midfield talents are exactly what Villa need right now as they have struggled for goals of late.

They visit Albion off the back of a 2-0 home win over Cardiff which ended a run of four games without a goal. But Albion have been consistently decent since their shrewd deadline days deals for Amalfitano, Stephane Sessegnon and Victor Anichebe.

They have subsequently drawn with Arsenal and Chelsea and beaten Manchester United. The 2-2 draw at Stamford Bridge last time out would have been an incredible victory but for a late controversial refereeing decision to award the hosts a penalty.

It left Steve Clarke's side badly aggrieved and tempers spilled over the tunnel afterwards when Jose Mourinho insulted Albion with his "Mickey Mouse" slur.

The simmering frustration of the fall-out from the Bridge is unlikely to have to dissipated much despite the international break. It will be an added element into a fascinating derby which was already sure to be closely-fought.

And it would be a huge irony if some magic from Amalfitano settles the game.

It would probably be enough to make Houllier - now working as sporting director of the New York Red Bulls - reach for a glass of his preferred French red wine.

But such a scenario may leave the Villa hierarchy spluttering.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 21, 2013, 02:47:57 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 21, 2013, 02:48:13 PM
It's very amusing the reasons they are coming up with for struggling to sell 24,000 tickets for their cup final. We know what they are.

I don't think it's fair to imply that they're a tin-pot outfit. They've won a surprising amount: First Division champions in 1920, 5 FA Cups, 1 League Cup and a league game in 1978.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 21, 2013, 02:59:56 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

around 2010 I think..and 3 draws in the last three meetings for their cup final
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 21, 2013, 03:02:23 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

around 2010 I think..and 3 draws in the last three meetings for their cup final

That was only 1-0 wasn't it? Their record over wolves is pretty astonishing isn't it? Monday makes me very nervous...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 03:07:37 PM
Why pretend to be a Villa fan?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 03:07:59 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

around 2010 I think..and 3 draws in the last three meetings for their cup final

That was only 1-0 wasn't it? Their record over wolves is pretty astonishing isn't it? Monday makes me very nervous...

Don't worry - we will beat you and leave that crappy little ground  the hawthorns with the 3 points :)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
Why pretend to be a Villa fan?

Probably a man as well pretending to be a woman and pretending to be a villa fan - come out mr chiles - we have Sussed you!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

around 2010 I think..and 3 draws in the last three meetings for their cup final

That was only 1-0 wasn't it? Their record over wolves is pretty astonishing isn't it? Monday makes me very nervous...

Astonishing indeed considering wolves are the much bigger club ;)

We have had some oddballs down the years but this takes the biscuit - how small time is that  !
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 21, 2013, 03:12:16 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

around 2010 I think..and 3 draws in the last three meetings for their cup final

That was only 1-0 wasn't it? Their record over wolves is pretty astonishing isn't it? Monday makes me very nervous...

that depends on what your definition of "recent years" is.......

as the Albion have also switched leagues a few times, apparently it was some ingenius plan to get parachute payments or something like that.

oh and I think it was 2-1 at B6....Agent Carson may have been involved...

as for Monday ?  Good will always overcome your obsession...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 21, 2013, 03:42:43 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

Yes but like Blues we don't play you very often, so you get those silly stats like only beating you twice in 35 years or something daft.

It's not like our twice at old trafford in 30 odd years record.

We play Wigan more often relatively speaking.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
Haven't they only beaten us a couple of times in the last 25 years or something like that ?
I think we've only lost once at that subbuteo stadium of theirs since the mid 80s.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 03:49:38 PM
Our record against them in recent years is poor tbf, when did we last beat them?

Yes but like Blues we don't play you very often, so you get those silly stats like only beating you twice in 35 years or something daft.

It's not like our twice at old trafford in 30 odd years record.

We play Wigan more often relatively speaking.

Its true, they will more likely than not be going down again in a year or two so lets enjoy it while we can :)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Meanwood Villa on November 21, 2013, 03:55:47 PM
Since the last time they became good enough for us to play them they've beaten us twice and we've beaten them once with 3 draws thrown in. Our win came in 2010 so it does seem like a long time although the last 3 have all been draws and I'm sure they were crowing before both games at the Hawthorns these last 2 seasons they were going to humiliate us. Hasn't really panned out that way.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: arnie66 on November 21, 2013, 04:08:24 PM
A bus stop in Sandwell.....we know what you re !!

or

My garden shed

both appropriate for Monday night
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PaulTheVillan on November 21, 2013, 04:14:03 PM
1-1
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 04:14:57 PM
Sandwell Town have beaten Man United at Old Trafford as many times as they have beaten us at the Hathorns in the past 30 years.

We know exactly what they are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 21, 2013, 04:18:56 PM
Considering we supposedly don't care about the Albion I do find it amusing that were now 10 pages in discussing how little they supposedly mean to us.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 21, 2013, 04:21:36 PM
Considering we supposedly don't care about the Albion I do find it amusing that were now 10 pages in discussing how little they supposedly mean to us.
it's a pre-match thread....you know somewhere to post about the game vs the Stripey filth...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 04:21:38 PM
Most of us didn't care about Cardiff, but we had an 11 page pre-match thread about that one.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 04:22:29 PM
Why is a bloke called Kirk pretending to be firstly a Villa fan and more worryingly a woman on the internet?

He'll be asking us if we want to see some puppies next.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Threadrley
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 04:28:34 PM
Why is a bloke called Kirk pretending to be firstly a Villa fan and more worryingly a woman on the internet?

He'll be asking us if we want to see some puppies next.

How bizarre - what next peter odemwingie turning up dressed as Shirley bassey ?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 04:32:06 PM
I followed the link that Liamthe Baggie put and had a look at their forum. Legion is right, its a nice site, but I noticed a bloke called Kirk say he was about to go on the wind up.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 04:34:04 PM
I followed the link that Liamthe Baggie put and had a look at their forum. Legion is right, its a nice site, but I noticed a bloke called Kirk say he was about to go on the wind up.

The guy hasn't would anyone up - just given all a good laugh at both him and his club - how embarrassing.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 21, 2013, 04:34:51 PM
I followed the link that Liamthe Baggie put and had a look at their forum. Legion is right, its a nice site, but I noticed a bloke called Kirk say he was about to go on the wind up.

do you mean to tell me that there are no puppies Ads ?   >:(
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 04:38:53 PM
You'd think a rival fan pretending to be one of us would be able to go longer than 5 posts before being sussed out. Nice try though.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 04:42:16 PM
You'd think a rival fan pretending to be one of us would be able to go longer than 5 posts before being sussed out. Nice try though.

His goose was cooked in 2 posts - a paltry effort indeed .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 21, 2013, 04:48:19 PM
You'd think a rival fan pretending to be one of us would be able to go longer than 5 posts before being sussed out. Nice try though.

His goose was cooked in 2 posts - a paltry effort indeed .

don't you mean a poultry effort ?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 21, 2013, 05:14:28 PM
Considering we supposedly don't care about the Albion I do find it amusing that were now 10 pages in discussing how little they supposedly mean to us.

We're playing you on Monday if you hadn't noticed, and this is the pre match thread.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smalltown boy pt III on November 21, 2013, 05:16:05 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

You all sound like some delerious old bufoon who used to have some semi important position in life and hadn't realised its long gone. Football has changed ladies, so have the times. Income streams are from places other than the  turnstile, 1982 is31 years ago and if anything it's that melancholic strumming over once peice of glory that holds you back as a club.

We'll beat you again on Monday and finish above you again. Why ? Because we are a better side. In a few years reality will start sinking in and the throstle will have already flown.

It's 2013 you know.....some clubs are even the plaything of a random yank!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 21, 2013, 05:19:03 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

You all sound like some delerious old bufoon who used to have some semi important position in life and hadn't realised its long gone. Football has changed ladies, so gave the times. Income streams are from places other than the  turnstile, 1982 is31 years ago and if anything it's that melancholic strumming over once pence of glory that holds you back as a club.

We'll beat you again on Monday and finish above you again. Why ? Because we are a bett side. In a few years reality will start sinking in and the throstle will have already flown.

It's 2013 you know.....some clubs are even the plaything of a random yank!

Could you repeat this in English please?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: arnie66 on November 21, 2013, 05:19:22 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

You all sound like some delerious old bufoon who used to have some semi important position in life and hadn't realised its long gone. Football has changed ladies, so gave the times. Income streams are from places other than the  turnstile, 1982 is31 years ago and if anything it's that melancholic strumming over once pence of glory that holds you back as a club.

We'll beat you again on Monday and finish above you again. Why ? Because we are a bett side. In a few years reality will start sinking in and the throstle will have already flown.

It's 2013 you know.....some clubs are even the plaything of a random yank!

Bore off you twat
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smalltown boy pt III on November 21, 2013, 05:21:30 PM
Blimey, you still on page 1 of the quips book fella?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 05:22:50 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

You all sound like some delerious old bufoon who used to have some semi important position in life and hadn't realised its long gone. Football has changed ladies, so have the times. Income streams are from places other than the  turnstile, 1982 is31 years ago and if anything it's that melancholic strumming over once peice of glory that holds you back as a club.

We'll beat you again on Monday and finish above you again. Why ? Because we are a better side. In a few years reality will start sinking in and the throstle will have already flown.

It's 2013 you know.....some clubs are even the plaything of a random yank!

Dear me , how embarrassing - even more so than your shitty little club - thanks for the laughs though ! Mourinho was right it seems :)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 21, 2013, 05:23:06 PM
Blimey, you still on page 1 of the quips book fella?

Sold all your 24,000 tickets yet? I know you've been struggling to shift 'em.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 05:25:49 PM
Blimey, you still on page 1 of the quips book fella?

You know what you are so please crawl under your stone - maybe you will beat us at home again in another 28 years to make it 2 in 56 years ;)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 05:29:54 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

Rattled enough yourself to join, log on and post on here.

You'll no doubt bring out a dvd should you beat us.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smalltown boy pt III on November 21, 2013, 05:30:26 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 21, 2013, 05:35:32 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

Coming from a club who had a dinner to mark the 34th anniversary of winning a league match against a team who finished ninth you're priceless.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 21, 2013, 05:35:41 PM
supersandwell what an apt name for an Albion fan.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 05:36:24 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

There's always a dvd of beating Man Utd in your club shop............
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 21, 2013, 05:37:41 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 21, 2013, 05:38:50 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.

Don't exaggerate. Their all-conquering BFR team were the best team ever.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 05:39:12 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

From a club who brings out a dvd for surviving relegation.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 21, 2013, 05:39:38 PM
What a fantastic user name. I will now refer to yowbogeyes henceforth as Super Sandwell.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2013, 05:41:29 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

Coming from a club who had a dinner to mark the 34th anniversary of winning a league match against a team who finished ninth you're priceless.

Or having an open top bus parade around Sandwell to commemorate finishing 3rd in the 3rd division.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2013, 05:42:36 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.

Don't exaggerate. Their all-conquering BFR team were the best team ever.

Until it got cold.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 05:43:06 PM
Must be one the highlights of his life coming on here - I feel sorry for him having to watch that shit year on year .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 21, 2013, 05:43:56 PM
I'm sure Albion would give all those unsold tickets to school kids from Sandwell if they could find the place.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2013, 05:45:49 PM
This reminds me of the good old 'Balance of power is shifting' days and Blues circa 2002-2003, with 'Noses coming along to tell us how it's all change and we're shite.

Priceless stuff.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 21, 2013, 05:46:26 PM
The Throstle has flown! Super Sandwell! Tears running down my face here, that is absolutely priceless. Even if I wanted to take the piss, I couldn't think up anything better. I think I'm right in saying the last time the Tesco Bags won anything was, erm, 1968. That is, erm, 45 years ago, so coming up for a 50th anniversary as they won't ever win anything in the next five years. And that was the League Cup. Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too? You're not Adrian Chiles in disguise are you, surely you can't be that ugly? Or such a complete and utter plank?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 21, 2013, 05:47:59 PM
At least they have the highest ground in Europe,tek thousands everywhere and have never been in the 3rd division.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 21, 2013, 05:49:22 PM
You're not Adrian Chiles in disguise are you, surely you can't be that ugly? Or such a complete and utter plank?

It was probably Franksey. His show starts in 10 minutes, he probably had some time to kill.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 21, 2013, 05:50:44 PM
I know Super Sandwell !! I will chuckle for days. Do they sing it as in super Bobby Taylor ( better than Bull.... Er not)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2013, 05:51:44 PM
Adrian Chiles; the man that looks like a Toby Jug.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brend'Watkins on November 21, 2013, 05:52:06 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.

Don't exaggerate. Their all-conquering BFR team were the best team ever.

Until it got cold.

Yes but Albion are at such a disadvantage having to play their games in the highest of high league grounds so it's bound to get colder there than anywhere else in the world.  If there was a league of highest above sea level grounds Albion would always win it.  They should write to the FA for an apology or something.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2013, 05:52:59 PM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.

Don't exaggerate. Their all-conquering BFR team were the best team ever.

Until it got cold.

Yes but Albion are at such a disadvantage having to play their games in the highest of high league grounds so it's bound to get colder there than anywhere else in the world.  If there was a league of highest above sea level grounds Albion would always win it.  They should write to the FA for an apology or something.

Whatever it was, it certainly wor fair.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 21, 2013, 05:53:30 PM
Wasn't there a book called 'The Throstle has flown'? I think the film had Michael Caine in it with Adrian Chiles playing a village idiot in East Anglia where the german paratroopers landed? Frank Skinner played a gay priest if I remember correctly and Len Cantello the local wench

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 21, 2013, 05:53:43 PM
Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too?

You're out of order. We're talking about former Watney Cup finalists here.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 21, 2013, 05:55:42 PM
Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too?

You're out of order. We're talking about former Watney Cup finalists here.

Respect, I apologise unreservedly in that case to Super Sandpaper
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 21, 2013, 05:57:50 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

You all sound like some delerious old bufoon who used to have some semi important position in life and hadn't realised its long gone. Football has changed ladies, so have the times. Income streams are from places other than the  turnstile, 1982 is31 years ago and if anything it's that melancholic strumming over once peice of glory that holds you back as a club.

We'll beat you again on Monday and finish above you again. Why ? Because we are a better side. In a few years reality will start sinking in and the throstle will have already flown.

It's 2013 you know.....some clubs are even the plaything of a random yank!

The amusing thing about Albion fans is this "we'll finish above you, and we'll beat you again" being passed off as if it's the norm.

How many times have they beaten us in the last 28 years?

I believe it is a figure close to 1.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 21, 2013, 06:04:29 PM
Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too?

You're out of order. We're talking about former Watney Cup finalists here.


Ooh when, I have a spare bed sheet and paint available.

'We know what you are.....watney cup finalists 19--'
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 21, 2013, 06:06:29 PM
Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too?

You're out of order. We're talking about former Watney Cup finalists here.


Ooh when, I have a spare bed sheet and paint available.

'We know what you are.....watney cup finalists 19--'

71. They lost on penalties to Colchester.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 21, 2013, 06:15:47 PM
Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too?

You're out of order. We're talking about former Watney Cup finalists here.


Ooh when, I have a spare bed sheet and paint available.

'We know what you are.....watney cup finalists 19--'

71. They lost on penalties to Colchester.

It's tempting.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 21, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
I've always quite liked Colchester as a team - used to know a gorgeous woman who supported them which helped. She never mentioned them beating the might Throstles or anything about them having flown, which I now realise was very puzzling, given the occasion and the stature of the opposition

Ghastly new stadium though, one of the worst examples of the out of town, bizarrely named, completely featureless grounds of its genre
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on November 21, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
So the yam yams are the new force in these parts, are they? Yeah right.  When Beelzebub gets icicles up his arse, when Shergar wins the Grand National ridden by a risen Christ. And when Tipton gets voted 2020 City of Culture. Until then, you inbred, vowel-strangling twats, wind yer necks in.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 21, 2013, 06:33:53 PM
Or like the Blues, are they counting relegation and promotion on their list of subsequent honours? Or did they win the Johnson Paints something or other trophy too?

You're out of order. We're talking about former Watney Cup finalists here.


Ooh when, I have a spare bed sheet and paint available.

'We know what you are.....watney cup finalists 19--'

71. They lost on penalties to Colchester.

I hope Watney sent a letter of apology.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smalltown boy pt III on November 21, 2013, 06:34:57 PM
So the yam yams are the new force in these parts, are they? Yeah right.  When Beelzebub gets icicles up his arse, when Shergar wins the Grand National ridden by a risen Christ. And when Tipton gets voted 2020 City of Culture. Until then, you inbred, vowel-strangling twats, wind yer necks in.

Heh heh. Thanks for playing ladies, you lot of even simpler to wind up than i expected.

C U Next TueSday to do some mopping up.

Have fun searching for that elusive tardis.....ta-ra!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 21, 2013, 06:40:32 PM
So the yam yams are the new force in these parts, are they? Yeah right.  When Beelzebub gets icicles up his arse, when Shergar wins the Grand National ridden by a risen Christ. And when Tipton gets voted 2020 City of Culture. Until then, you inbred, vowel-strangling twats, wind yer necks in.



Heh heh. Thanks for playing ladies, you lot of even simpler to wind up than i expected.

C U Next TueSday to do some mopping up.

Have fun searching for that elusive tardis.....ta-ra!

Bye bye Baggie - thanks for entertaining us  for a couple of hours - even funnier than your Mickey Mouse club :)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 21, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Heh heh. Thanks for playing ladies, you lot of even simpler to wind up than i expected.

C U Next TueSday to do some mopping up.

We know what you are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 21, 2013, 06:51:12 PM
So the yam yams are the new force in these parts, are they? Yeah right.  When Beelzebub gets icicles up his arse, when Shergar wins the Grand National ridden by a risen Christ. And when Tipton gets voted 2020 City of Culture. Until then, you inbred, vowel-strangling twats, wind yer necks in.

Heh heh. Thanks for playing ladies, you lot of even simpler to wind up than i expected.

C U Next TueSday to do some mopping up.

Have fun searching for that elusive tardis.....ta-ra!

About as erudite as you'd expect, more so actually. Thanks for visiting, you probably don't have a forum for your own fans? Not one you could understand anyway. Actually, with your spelling and grammar, I take that back.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 21, 2013, 06:53:33 PM
'Ladies and Gentlemen, The Throstle Has Flown' (said in the voice that guy uses at the start of the big boxing contests)

Be very afraid....
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 21, 2013, 06:55:14 PM
Jimmy Jones Junior is changing his "Its showtime" catchphrase.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 21, 2013, 07:01:26 PM
Bless.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Man With A Stick on November 21, 2013, 07:16:37 PM
Blimey, hark at 'er.  Someone touched a nerve, day they?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 21, 2013, 07:16:56 PM
Whether we win or lose the game, you have to admit WBA know who they are.

I have no idea who we are.

Some team from the mountains in Russia obviously, but beyond that I am lost.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 21, 2013, 07:16:57 PM
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 21, 2013, 07:21:45 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: The Moose on November 21, 2013, 07:23:08 PM
Sorry guys, didn't intend to get 'em bumped off. Spoils the baiting,eh?
Fish in a barrel. Roll on Monday....
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: GordonCowansisthegreatest on November 21, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
Heh heh. Thanks for playing ladies, you lot of even simpler to wind up than i expected.

C U Next TueSday to do some mopping up.

We know what you are.

Priceless  8)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 21, 2013, 07:42:53 PM
Is this how the young people enjoy themselves these days? Post some semi-literate, misogynistic nonsense on the internet, then skip away saying they've won?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 21, 2013, 07:44:10 PM
Why didn't he use the gate?

Saft bay they.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 21, 2013, 07:44:17 PM
Rattled by Albion, I know what you are.

You all sound like some delerious old bufoon who used to have some semi important position in life and hadn't realised its long gone. Football has changed ladies, so have the times. Income streams are from places other than the  turnstile, 1982 is31 years ago and if anything it's that melancholic strumming over once peice of glory that holds you back as a club.

We'll beat you again on Monday and finish above you again. Why ? Because we are a better side. In a few years reality will start sinking in and the throstle will have already flown.

It's 2013 you know.....some clubs are even the plaything of a random yank!

The amusing thing about Albion fans is this "we'll finish above you, and we'll beat you again" being passed off as if it's the norm.

How many times have they beaten us in the last 28 years?

I believe it is a figure close to 1.

You're being very mean, what he said was very accurate but in his rush to finish posting it he missed the word eventually out.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 21, 2013, 07:57:20 PM
So the yam yams are the new force in these parts, are they? Yeah right.  When Beelzebub gets icicles up his arse, when Shergar wins the Grand National ridden by a risen Christ. And when Tipton gets voted 2020 City of Culture. Until then, you inbred, vowel-strangling twats, wind yer necks in.

Heh heh. Thanks for playing ladies, you lot of even simpler to wind up than i expected.

C U Next TueSday to do some mopping up.

Have fun searching for that elusive tardis.....ta-ra!

King of the come-backs. We'm bin told, ay it?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on November 21, 2013, 08:09:16 PM
0-3

Gabby, Weimann, Vlaar
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Caiphus on November 21, 2013, 09:44:18 PM
I seem to have missed the fun...

I'm glad the Baggies got an apology - in my opinion there is less chance of a square-up dubious penalty being awarded in their favour when the refs have already shown contrition.  Combine both outcomes and it will have swung too much back the other way, now the ref can just get on with taking the game on its own merits.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 21, 2013, 10:27:04 PM
Sod that.

Andre Marriner, Villa legend.

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Ref on big man, ref on!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CAitken on November 21, 2013, 10:38:23 PM
Why didn't he use the gate?

Saft bay they.
because it's ajar.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 01:50:32 AM
Why didn't he use the gate?

Saft bay they.

'....Yow alright mate?...

Clearly. From everyone else's perspective.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 22, 2013, 02:09:02 AM
Anyone hazard a guess as to how the teams will line up?

I expect Clark will be retained at left back. Decision over whether Bacuna will play in midfield is a big one. I'd leave him at right back. The international break came at a good time for us and hopefully Benteke, Delph and Gabby are back to full fitness. If not then I think we are going to struggle.
The Baggies look strong at centre back and midfield. Reid and Ridgewell are physically strong players but can be got at. If Delph isn't back and at his best I think we could get a run around in midfield. Berahinho, Anelka and Sessegnon will certainly give Clark more to think about.
I hope they go with Anichebe as Baker should be able for him. Long will cause more problems.

We will need a much improved performance to win this.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on November 22, 2013, 07:05:07 AM
Massively depends on who's still injured. If guzan's out I think we'll lose.

Clark, Delph, Weimann and hopefully benteke seemed set to come back- but gabby and luna and Bennett still out? Is that the word on the street?

If so I might go:

Guzan - lowton vlaar baker clark - sylla  Westwood Delph - bacuna benteke Weimann

But the idea of bacuna in a front three isn't entirely convincing. Perhaps Tonev with bacuna in midfield.

I've got a feeling he may put kozak and benteke up front which I'm not really convinced by, not least because if the implications for how we set up in midfield
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 22, 2013, 08:21:45 AM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.

Don't exaggerate. Their all-conquering BFR team were the best team ever.

Until it got cold.

I wonder if it ever bugs them that their BFR team was the best Britain has ever seen but won nothing. Then he buggered off and won something at his next three English clubs. Even at Sheffield Wednesday! I realise that he popped back to Albion for a bit in between. A bit like my mate. Last year he did a bit of voluntary charity work in between proper jobs too.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 22, 2013, 09:21:02 AM
Is Guzan injured then? I must have missed that one. I'll be worried if him and Gabby are out.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dekko on November 22, 2013, 09:29:16 AM
Is Guzan injured then? I must have missed that one. I'll be worried if him and Gabby are out.

He didn't join up with the US squad, the implication being that he was being rested as a precaution (same for Clark).

I think he'll play.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 10:25:57 AM
2010 & counting.....there is always old VHS tapes for nostalgia.

You'll need to access old British Pathé archives to see anything of note that your lot has ever achieved.

Don't exaggerate. Their all-conquering BFR team were the best team ever.

Until it got cold.

I wonder if it ever bugs them that their BFR team was the best Britain has ever seen but won nothing. Then he buggered off and won something at his next three English clubs. Even at Sheffield Wednesday! I realise that he popped back to Albion for a bit in between. A bit like my mate. Last year he did a bit of voluntary charity work in between proper jobs too.

They came 3rd because they were the 3rd best team that year. End of. Granted they played some attractive football but so did the 2 teams who beat them. Thankfully a superior local team did better 2 years later. Fact.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 22, 2013, 10:45:24 AM
Guzan will be fine, seems Weimann and benteke are o.k aswell, don't think Gabby will make this one.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 11:01:51 AM
Guzan will be fine, seems Weimann and benteke are o.k aswell, don't think Gabby will make this one.

Agree. USA qualified a long time ago. If he had a minor niggle then they are not going to risk him. No need. He is a squad certainty fir Brazil in any case.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:25:38 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 12:28:53 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.
What a despicable fucking lowlife you are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:33:06 PM
Calm down son; I'm just trying to get the lie of the land here.  I know you lot "really don't care about West Brom" and I'm just trying to build a few bridges here. 

Shouldn't it be the 20th minute anyway?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 12:33:57 PM
Calm down son; I'm just trying to get the lie of the land here.  I know you lot "really don't care about West Brom" and I'm just trying to build a few bridges here. 

Shouldn't it be the 20th minute anyway?



Remember when the world had to stop turning when Jeff Astle died?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:36:28 PM
I don't think Albion fans booed Jeff Astle and then pretended to love him once he got poorly?

I mean, come on - even Stan was embarassed by your half arsed attempts at support/faux outrage.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 12:39:06 PM
Calm down son; I'm just trying to get the lie of the land here.  I know you lot "really don't care about West Brom" and I'm just trying to build a few bridges here. 

Shouldn't it be the 20th minute anyway?

The lie of the land is that no-one else has ever come on here trying to mock Stan. That makes you lower than the worst Small Heath supporter we've endured - you must be so proud of yourself. Now crawl back under your little smalltown rock and tell the rest of your friends how you've "wound us all up". If they've any decency they'll tell you what a piece of shit you are as well.   
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 22, 2013, 12:40:56 PM
Massively depends on who's still injured. If guzan's out I think we'll lose.

Clark, Delph, Weimann and hopefully benteke seemed set to come back- but gabby and luna and Bennett still out? Is that the word on the street?

If so I might go:

Guzan - lowton vlaar baker clark - sylla  Westwood Delph - bacuna benteke Weimann

But the idea of bacuna in a front three isn't entirely convincing. Perhaps Tonev with bacuna in midfield.

I've got a feeling he may put kozak and benteke up front which I'm not really convinced by, not least because if the implications for how we set up in midfield

I think he will go for Kozak up top with Benteke. Leaves us light in midfield but we dont really have much options with Gabby out and Weimann out of form. I wouldnt want Bacuna moved out of right back where he has been playing well but suspect Lowton's assist the last day will have done enough to get him back into the side. Tonev might be given another go but that is more indicative of the lack of options we have rather than any confidence he will add anything.

Guzan
Lowton, Vlaar, Baker, Clark
Bacuna, Westwood, Delph, Weimann/Tonev
Kozak, Benteke
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
Calm down son; I'm just trying to get the lie of the land here.  I know you lot "really don't care about West Brom" and I'm just trying to build a few bridges here. 

Shouldn't it be the 20th minute anyway?

The lie of the land is that no-one else has ever come on here trying to mock Stan. That makes you lower than the worst Small Heath supporter we've endured - you must be so proud of yourself. Now crawl back under your little smalltown rock and tell the rest of your friends how you've "wound us all up". If they've any decency they'll tell you what a piece of shit you are as well.   
Point of clarity:  I'm mocking you, not Stan.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 12:44:07 PM
Calm down son; I'm just trying to get the lie of the land here.  I know you lot "really don't care about West Brom" and I'm just trying to build a few bridges here. 

Shouldn't it be the 20th minute anyway?

The lie of the land is that no-one else has ever come on here trying to mock Stan. That makes you lower than the worst Small Heath supporter we've endured - you must be so proud of yourself. Now crawl back under your little smalltown rock and tell the rest of your friends how you've "wound us all up". If they've any decency they'll tell you what a piece of shit you are as well.   
Point of clarity:  I'm mocking you, not Stan.

And that makes you a lying piece of shit.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:47:03 PM
Calm down son; I'm just trying to get the lie of the land here.  I know you lot "really don't care about West Brom" and I'm just trying to build a few bridges here. 

Shouldn't it be the 20th minute anyway?

The lie of the land is that no-one else has ever come on here trying to mock Stan. That makes you lower than the worst Small Heath supporter we've endured - you must be so proud of yourself. Now crawl back under your little smalltown rock and tell the rest of your friends how you've "wound us all up". If they've any decency they'll tell you what a piece of shit you are as well.   
Point of clarity:  I'm mocking you, not Stan.

And that makes you a lying piece of shit.
Now now Dave, I came in peace trying to work out we can all just get along a bit better - you know, interracial harmony and that, and you've started calling me names.  This isn't what I'm used to from Villa fans - normally "aggresive name callers" is at least 7th or 8th on my list of adjectives for you lot.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sad smalltown boy on November 22, 2013, 12:47:17 PM
There is no way we should lose this game. No way on Earth.

Having said that, the thought of them turning us over is too much for me to comprehend. I loathe how much better than us they have become over the last couple of years. I remember the days when this was the big midlands derby. Small Heath and Wolves were miniscule, and this was the big 'un. For so many years I laughed at how they went to the shit tip in the doldrums of lower league football, whilst we sat pretty in the top flight. I mean come on, we've been in the Premier League since its conception. Where were they in the league?

If we attack early and then sit back and stay tight, we should be able to seal the win, m'lord. But I do fear their attacking prowess. That Berahino chap is the new Defoe. Sessegnon is a worldy of a player. That chap who scored at Old Trafford is a ridiculously good winger.

This won't be easy chaps. Be afraid. VERY afraid.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 12:47:55 PM
There is no way we should lose this game. No way on Earth.

Having said that, the thought of them turning us over is too much for me to comprehend. I loathe how much better than us they have become over the last couple of years. I remember the days when this was the big midlands derby. Small Heath and Wolves were miniscule, and this was the big 'un. For so many years I laughed at how they went to the shit tip in the doldrums of lower league football, whilst we sat pretty in the top flight. I mean come on, we've been in the Premier League since its conception. Where were they in the league?

If we attack early and then sit back and stay tight, we should be able to seal the win, m'lord. But I do fear their attacking prowess. That Berahino chap is the new Defoe. Sessegnon is a worldy of a player. That chap who scored at Old Trafford is a ridiculously good winger.

This won't be easy chaps. Be afraid. VERY afraid.

Zzzzzzzzz.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 12:48:08 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:50:03 PM
Hate is such a strong word.  Hate should be reserved for people who sing through minutes silences, not people who clap at the wrong time in a football match.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 12:51:37 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Another sad smalltown boy on November 22, 2013, 12:52:20 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.

Just the sort of crap that Soph and his commie friends come out with AOTS. He is WBAUnofficials version of ianrobo but without the wit or spolling mistakes. You should have heard him dancing on Thatcher's grave and encouraging the riots last year.

He is just jealous of all our gud young playerz.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 12:53:58 PM
Afternoon Swag!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 12:55:19 PM
It's raining tossers by the looks of things. Even noses aren't this childish
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Another sad smalltown boy on November 22, 2013, 12:55:31 PM
Afternoon Swag!

Eh? Josh, just Josh pal.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 12:55:58 PM
I don't think Albion fans booed Jeff Astle and then pretended to love him once he got poorly?

I mean, come on - even Stan was embarassed by your half arsed attempts at support/faux outrage.

I've had this argument before, Kieran, and it marks you out as very bitter and crass.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 12:56:45 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.

Yep, it's about as low as it can get, yet these lot are the most sanctimonious bunch around.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 22, 2013, 12:59:58 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Grow up.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 01:01:26 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.

Yep, it's about as low as it can get, yet these lot are the most sanctimonious bunch around.
I wondered when It would all turn sour. The chap who visited to get the 'view from the opposition' seemed a decent person, and everyone treated each other with respect and got along.

Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 01:02:06 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.

Yep, it's about as low as it can get, yet these lot are the most sanctimonious bunch around.

He's either young, immature and dose'nt understand what people suffering with cancer means or he's a middle aged bloke who's forgotten Wolves and suddenly hates us. Either way, it's about as unclassy as you can get.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Little lad with nothing better to do on November 22, 2013, 01:05:25 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 01:08:20 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

Yaaaaaaaaawnnnnnnn.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 01:09:42 PM
This is the trouble with clubs who get a whiff of what they call 'success'. They start to attract silly little boys who think football is about bantz and annoying the grown-ups.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on November 22, 2013, 01:11:20 PM
They have had such massive success who can blame them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 01:11:26 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.

Yep, it's about as low as it can get, yet these lot are the most sanctimonious bunch around.

He's either young, immature and dose'nt understand what people suffering with cancer means or he's a middle aged bloke who's forgotten Wolves and suddenly hates us. Either way, it's about as unclassy as you can get.

He’s middle aged. Probably took a kick to many to the head as a younger man on the Witton Lane.

I am not sure how he is posting on the net while he is out tatting.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 01:11:55 PM
Can anyone tell me if I need to clap on the 19th minute on Monday?  Wouldn't want our stewards to have to clean up any wet patches on the SMmethwick End if I don't.

Wow. Using our support for a cancer sufferer to tell us how much you hate us.

Yep, it's about as low as it can get, yet these lot are the most sanctimonious bunch around.
I wondered when It would all turn sour. The chap who visited to get the 'view from the opposition' seemed a decent person, and everyone treated each other with respect and got along.

Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.

Some Villa mates of mine often have banter with their Albion mates on Facebook. They generally rip the piss out of each other's clubs and they both give as good as they get but it's banter and they all get along. I know a few of the Albion one's and they would never stoop as low as to bring up Stan's illness. It's a low as you can get really.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 01:12:23 PM
They have had such massive success who can blame them.

Listen, goal difference matters - alright?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SophieX on November 22, 2013, 01:12:57 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tucson Villain on November 22, 2013, 01:14:28 PM
They have had such massive success who can blame them.

Listen, goal difference matters - alright?

You are right, I should know my place.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 01:15:42 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Yam a bit daft bay ya?

Do you have a key to the shrine for your (and I quote) "Champions League tie" on Monday? Still plenty of seats for your cup final. If you keep tatting away today and pick up a few more old washing machines off the kerb and maybe some copper wiring, you may be able to afford a ticket.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 01:17:05 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Calm down Keiran, you'll be asking for an apology soon.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 01:17:07 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Cor, we'm bin telt ay we?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 22, 2013, 01:18:00 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

wtf are you talking about ?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

wtf are you talking about ?

That thing at West Ham. Villa supporters singing under the stands, not realising there was a minutes silence happening above.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 01:20:37 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

wtf are you talking about ?

That thing at West Ham. Villa supporters singing under the stands, not realising there was a minutes silence happening above.

Much, much worse than singing the Dambusters en masse at Old Trafford then saying "Sorry, we didn't realise".
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 01:20:49 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Cor, we'm bin telt ay we?

Arr, we know what they am dow we?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 01:21:30 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Cor, we'm bin telt ay we?

Arr, we know what they am dow we?

Some of us have always know what they are. I think the rest of us are realising it as well, now.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

wtf are you talking about ?

That thing at West Ham. Villa supporters singing under the stands, not realising there was a minutes silence happening above.

Much, much worse than singing the Dambusters en masse at Old Trafford then saying "Sorry, we didn't realise".

We'm an inoffensive club, ay we?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 01:23:37 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.
I accept your apology. You have obviously been misunderstood. You know what you were doing though, and you got the rise you wanted. Now Fuck off
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 22, 2013, 01:23:50 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

wtf are you talking about ?

That thing at West Ham. Villa supporters singing under the stands, not realising there was a minutes silence happening above.

ah right....I was going to reply about what actually happened but whats the point...it's been debated on here enough and that sanctimonious shower will just believe what they want...as long as it suits them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 22, 2013, 01:24:11 PM
Anyway, just a few days away from the match and the Baggies still haven't sold all their 24,000 tickets....
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 22, 2013, 01:24:58 PM
Please be rivals with us and if you continue to not give a shit we'll be jolly nasty to you.

Meh.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on November 22, 2013, 01:25:36 PM
Firstly, when did Sophie join?  It seems to coincide with the same time as I left my ZX81 for the bloke shouting Scrap Oiiiiiiiiiron outside my gaffe in a rather annoying voice. 

Anyway, putting that aside, you appear to be suggesting that because we had the audacity to boo a player for poor performances, that somehow makes us fickle sardines to use your comical description when showing support for him and his family during the period when he was trying to come through a life threatening illness?  Is that seriously the basis of your argument?  Even assuming we did boo him, and to be honest, I can't remember Stan being singled out particularly, sure he struggled in his early years, showing our disappreciation for the the performance on the pitch, is utterly and entirely mutually exclusive from having to deal with and therefore garner support with an illness that threatens to end your life.

And are you seriously suggesting even if you could cobble an argument (get what I did there, cobble, Smethwick, nevermind), that this is the first time a football fan has ever been fickle ever?  I suppose you will be telling me next that there were no overt racists amongst everyones favourite 2nd teams playful supporters before the 'three degrees' arrived in the 70's?

If you want to come on here and have a sensible debate fine, even take the piss out of our terrible recent record at the hands of mighty Smethwick, but don't lower it to cheap, unsubstantiated shots at either fans of or the person suffering from a serious illness which is entirely divorced from anything to do with football.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 01:25:58 PM
I remember one of them offering to 'break my legs for me' after at game at their place once. We'd just been to Ronnie Allen's testimonial.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Stu on November 22, 2013, 01:27:55 PM
that sanctimonious shower will just believe what they want...as long as it suits them.

Yep. They've made up the story that we used to boo Petrov before he got ill, then use this story to say how fickle we are after he got sick.

Basically they're saying "You boo'd him when he was well, so why don't you boo him now that he has cancer?"

That's the logic you're dealing with here. It's crass, it's offensive, but it serves to illuminate just how low this lot are willing to go in order to get one over the Villa.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 01:28:17 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Cor, we'm bin telt ay we?

Arr, we know what they am dow we?

Some of us have always know what they are. I think the rest of us are realising it as well, now.
Was just thinking the same, Dave. I have come around to your way of thinking in recent times having spent time in the Black country watching Albion fans turning up at the local pub to cheer and dance if whoever we happen to be playing score.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 01:29:54 PM
I'm quite ashamed of the way we sang through the minutes silence tbf, reeks of small time.

wtf are you talking about ?

That thing at West Ham. Villa supporters singing under the stands, not realising there was a minutes silence happening above.

Much, much worse than singing the Dambusters en masse at Old Trafford then saying "Sorry, we didn't realise".

We'm an inoffensive club, ay we?

Arr. Wim the pryde of the Midlands bay way? No, hang on, wim a small club that dow get the decisions at the big clubs. No. Hang on.

Shit on the Villa bay it!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 01:34:30 PM
I remember one of them offering to 'break my legs for me' after at game at their place once. We'd just been to Ronnie Allen's testimonial.

I remember missing the first 20 minutes of a friendly at there place in the mid-90s queuing at the turnstile just trying to get into the shit hole. 
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 22, 2013, 01:37:23 PM
Oh the irony of Albion fans bringing up the subject of singing during a minutes silence. They've conveniantly forgotten about their fans singing at Swansea during the silence for the Welsh miners who died. I seem to recall the club even had to issue an apology after they were rightly condemned throught the football world.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 01:37:35 PM
I've known a lot of Albion supporters over the years, including family members and good friends. Almost all of them, without exception, were, and are, good people and great football supporters. If everyone was like them life would be a lot better. However, amongst their support there's an element that believe when it comes to Villa and Wolves all bets are off and there's no low to which they won't sink.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on November 22, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
I've known a lot of Albion supporters over the years, including family members and good friends. Almost all of them, without exception, were, and are, good people and great football supporters. If everyone was like them life would be a lot better. However, amongst their support there's an element that believe when it comes to Villa and Wolves all bets are off and there's no low to which they won't sink.

You could say the same of every club's supporters when it comes to their local rivals - including ourselves.

That having been said, can't we just ban this little cuntbubble and go back to discussing the game?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 01:50:03 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

Cor, we'm bin telt ay we?

Arr, we know what they am dow we?

Some of us have always know what they are. I think the rest of us are realising it as well, now.
Was just thinking the same, Dave. I have come around to your way of thinking in recent times having spent time in the Black country watching Albion fans turning up at the local pub to cheer and dance if whoever we happen to be playing score.


You mean they have started to copy Small Heath.They actually flatter Small Heath.

Their most famous fan used one of their best and now deceased players as a comedy stooge for half a decade.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: taylorsworkrate on November 22, 2013, 01:53:35 PM
Then this lot of comedians show up and start taking the piss out people with serious illnesses.
Sorry; I didn't realise you had a serious illness - it was hard to tell.  In between shovelling sardines into your mouth can you differentiate where I've took the mickey out of cancer sufferers and where I've been abusing fickledeludedfisheatingtwats.

You don't eat fish?

What sort of cretin doesn't eat fish?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Another little lad on November 22, 2013, 01:56:25 PM
Love a bit of fish I do! Anyway I think we are getting off topic... If this game means so little to so many of us, then what is our Derby? Chances are we'll never play the noses again...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 01:57:31 PM
 Somebody must have fed the Albion fan after mid-night, as they keep multiplying. 
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 01:58:57 PM
Somebody must have fed the Albion fan after mid-night, as they keep multiplying. 

Either that or they've all had a wash and got wet.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 22, 2013, 01:59:41 PM
it's like having a small pet...can we keep him Dave ?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 02:00:23 PM
Somebody must have fed the Albion fan after mid-night, as they keep multiplying. 

Either that or they've all had a wash and got wet.

Maybe this is a plan to fill their tiny-weeny ground for their Champions League tie on Monday?

How do you fail to shift 24,000 tickets for your biggest game of the season? We could fit more in the Holte.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 02:00:35 PM
Will the next one of them please do something a bit more original than pretend to be one of us afraid we'll get beaten?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on November 22, 2013, 02:05:40 PM
This is embarrassing. They actually think they're being clever too.

Anyway, I think we'll win. Benteke will get at least a couple.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
Love a bit of fish I do! Anyway I think we are getting off topic... If this game means so little to so many of us, then what is our Derby? Chances are we'll never play the noses again...
Nobody's saying it doesn't mean anything to us, but I guarantee it means more to you than it does to us. My Baggies pal at work, who I get on really well with is always honest about this. He doesn't like Villa at all, and says beating Wolves is alright, but beating us is better. For me I just want us to win every game. It's nice to put jumped up dickheads in their place though, so heres hoping we give you a good beating on Monday.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 22, 2013, 02:13:22 PM
I remember watching a Small Heath vs Baggies game on the telly once and both sets of supporters were singing "we hate Villa more than you" to each other.
I must say it was up there with the best ever backhanded compliments. I was bursting with pride.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: stuart r on November 22, 2013, 02:14:40 PM
Love a bit of fish I do! Anyway I think we are getting off topic... If this game means so little to so many of us, then what is our Derby? Chances are we'll never play the noses again...

Means so little? I can't wait for it and I expect us to win comfortably. Granted it doesn't mean enough for me to obsessively register different user names to go on their forums though.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on November 22, 2013, 02:17:17 PM
Somebody must have fed the Albion fan after mid-night, as they keep multiplying. 

Either that or they've all had a wash and got wet.

Don't be ridiculous.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 22, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
Just read the latest posts on this thread.

Dear me.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 22, 2013, 02:47:42 PM
It strikes me this is just the internet warrior equivalent of attempting to 'take' our end. It looks about as successful, too.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 22, 2013, 02:49:06 PM
Oh the irony of Albion fans bringing up the subject of singing during a minutes silence. They've conveniantly forgotten about their fans singing at Swansea during the silence for the Welsh miners who died. I seem to recall the club even had to issue an apology after they were rightly condemned throught the football world.

In fairness to ourselves, that minutes silence was totally spontaneous. We were actually totally unaware of any minutes silence and I myself was guilty for singing on the concourse. When I left the concourse I like many others realised what was happening and ushered the others to shut up and we soon did. It's totally different to the remembrance weekend where a minutes silence is always guaranteed. Not that I'm having a dig at Villa because I know how easy it is too lose track of time when you're participating in the singing underneath the ground and then suddenly the whole world is against you with their 'hollier than thou' attitude.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
We didn't play West Ham on Armistace Day, it was 9 days before.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 22, 2013, 02:53:14 PM
Oh the irony of Albion fans bringing up the subject of singing during a minutes silence. They've conveniantly forgotten about their fans singing at Swansea during the silence for the Welsh miners who died. I seem to recall the club even had to issue an apology after they were rightly condemned throught the football world.
In fairness to ourselves, that minutes silence was totally spontaneous. We were actually totally unaware of any minutes silence and I myself was guilty for singing on the concourse. When I left the concourse I like many others realised what was happening and ushered the others to shut up and we soon did. It's totally different to the remembrance weekend where a minutes silence is always guaranteed. Not that I'm having a dig at Villa because I know how easy it is too lose track of time when you're participating in the singing underneath the ground and then suddenly the whole world is against you with their 'hollier than thou' attitude.
to be fair Liam it was the 2nd of November....hardly Rememberance weekend.  it was just one of those unfortunate with circumstance things.

good luck for the season watching your team, apart from when you play the Villa. :)

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 22, 2013, 03:02:49 PM
We didn't play West Ham on Armistace Day, it was 9 days before.

I know, but it was West Ham's last home game prior to Armistace Day.

As I said, it wasn't a criticism of your support. I actually defended your supporters as it's easy for folk to make out they are hollier than thou in that situation.

Dr Butler, above my posts sums it up very well when he says an unfortunate circumstance - something which both our actions at Swansea and yours at West Ham were.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
We didn't play West Ham on Armistace Day, it was 9 days before.

I know, but it was West Ham's last home game prior to Armistace Day.

As I said, it wasn't a criticism of your support. I actually defended your supporters as it's easy for folk to make out they are hollier than thou in that situation.

Dr Butler, above my posts sums it up very well when he says an unfortunate circumstance - something which both our actions at Swansea and yours at West Ham were.

Liam thanks for original post. Keep some of those 13 year olds from your lot pretending to be Villa fans in check. Not even half term. The little rascals.


As for minutes silences. Both. No apology necessary if didn't know it was going to happen.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on November 22, 2013, 03:18:40 PM
We didn't play West Ham on Armistace Day, it was 9 days before.

I know, but it was West Ham's last home game prior to Armistace Day.

As I said, it wasn't a criticism of your support. I actually defended your supporters as it's easy for folk to make out they are hollier than thou in that situation.

Dr Butler, above my posts sums it up very well when he says an unfortunate circumstance - something which both our actions at Swansea and yours at West Ham were.

I like it when we get opposition fans come on and make sensible posts.
When it's just villa fans it's sometimes difficult to get an alternative perspective.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Irish villain on November 22, 2013, 03:20:20 PM
There is no way we should lose this game. No way on Earth.

Having said that, the thought of them turning us over is too much for me to comprehend. I loathe how much better than us they have become over the last couple of years. I remember the days when this was the big midlands derby. Small Heath and Wolves were miniscule, and this was the big 'un. For so many years I laughed at how they went to the shit tip in the doldrums of lower league football, whilst we sat pretty in the top flight. I mean come on, we've been in the Premier League since its conception. Where were they in the league?

If we attack early and then sit back and stay tight, we should be able to seal the win, m'lord. But I do fear their attacking prowess. That Berahino chap is the new Defoe. Sessegnon is a worldy of a player. That chap who scored at Old Trafford is a ridiculously good winger.

This won't be easy chaps. Be afraid. VERY afraid.

Come back to us when you figure out subtlety and manage to swap it for that great big crowbar you have used there.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 22, 2013, 03:32:56 PM
Have they all wagged off school today in an attempt to contact intelligent life? Obviously apologies to them if it is a bona fide insert day.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: London Villan on November 22, 2013, 03:55:24 PM
I'm not sure it's been mentioned but one of the most interesting things that defines the rivalry was a couple of years ago. It was the last day of the season and the albion needed a result in their game to stay up... when the news filtered through to Villa Park that they hadn't got relegated there was an audible cheer that they'd stayed up... Compare this to the hilarity that greeted the last relegation of small heath.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: I no worri yam on November 22, 2013, 04:00:15 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 22, 2013, 04:09:20 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


It took you three hours to think of that?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.

Is this the same lunatic re-registering over and over again, or multiple ip addresses etc?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 22, 2013, 04:17:06 PM
When I lived in The Canary Islands there was a certain time each year when, seemingly out of nowhere, we would be inundated with cockroaches. The closer up you encounter them the uglier you realise they really are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: I no worri yam on November 22, 2013, 04:17:48 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.

Is this the same lunatic re-registering over and over again, or multiple ip addresses etc?

No to all of them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: I no worri yam on November 22, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


It took you three hours to think of that?

Funnily enough no, it came to me spontaneously when I decided to have a chat with you folk.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 22, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: I no worri yam on November 22, 2013, 04:23:06 PM
When I lived in The Canary Islands there was a certain time each year when, seemingly out of nowhere, we would be inundated with cockroaches. The closer up you encounter them the uglier you realise they really are.

I personally feel sorry for the cockroaches having to negotiate around you.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 22, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
How incredibly boring and small time. I don't think I've come across a more immature cub in my life.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 22, 2013, 04:25:28 PM
When I lived in The Canary Islands there was a certain time each year when, seemingly out of nowhere, we would be inundated with cockroaches. The closer up you encounter them the uglier you realise they really are.

I personally feel sorry for the cockroaches having to negotiate around you.

You would take the cockroaches side, blood is thicker than water and all that.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 22, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I know nothing of theirs. I know they had some chap that went onto the England set up. To be honest I don't know too many of their players either
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: I no worri yam on November 22, 2013, 04:27:19 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I think you'll find its common knowledge from business pages world wide circa 2010.

I tend to think our chairman looks like Dr Evil - which is much better than a dumb looking cash strapped yank.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 22, 2013, 04:28:35 PM
The first Villa-Baggies game I attended was the FA Cup tie in 1998 (a 4-0 win to Villa, fact fans) and me and my sister caught the train to Witton from Walsall. At Tame Bridge Parkway, the train was inundated with Baggies fans. Me and my sis thought we were in for a serious something due to sheer weight of numbers, but two blokes leaned across to us and said 'Doh worry, we doh 'ate Villa. It's the fuckin' Wolves we'm cor stand.'

Then one of them leaned out of the window at Perry Barr and yelled at a middle-aged Chinese woman waiting on the platform, 'No chicken flu on train.'
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on November 22, 2013, 04:29:23 PM
is there a full moon or something ?

I thought this lot only came out of the woodwork when they were doing well ?  not just sitting in midtable and just above us on goal difference...

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 22, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I think you'll find its common knowledge from business pages world wide circa 2010.

I tend to think our chairman looks like Dr Evil - which is much better than a dumb looking cash strapped yank.

That must be why he thinks all transfer deals can only be conducted for a million dollars or less.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 04:31:13 PM
I do love how a billionaire with a family fortune running into eleven figures can be described as "cash strapped".
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 04:31:34 PM
Jeremy Peace, who most of your lot can't stand.

I couldn't pick him out of a line up mind
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 22, 2013, 04:32:36 PM
I do love how a billionaire with a family fortune running into eleven figures can be described as "cash strapped".

He possibly is compared to Tesco (arf arf)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 22, 2013, 04:35:58 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I think you'll find its common knowledge from business pages world wide circa 2010.

I tend to think our chairman looks like Dr Evil - which is much better than a dumb looking cash strapped yank.

A dumb looking cash-strapped yank, do you mean the guy that sold his share in the Cleveland Browns for $1bn(ish) earlier in the year, west brom must be very affluent place if that's cash strapped.  Of course not that our owners wealth or marital status really matters.

Our spending seems to be an odd thing for you to blat on about anyway, if we're cutting back and have no money surely you should be pretty embarrassed that we level on points with you, especially with your superior squad and seemingly potent spending.  Are you proud that you paid nearly as much for Anichebe as we did Benteke?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 04:37:20 PM
And even last summer, when we were supposedly scrabbling down the back of the settee for change for the meter, we spent more on a reserve than they did on their record signing.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 22, 2013, 04:40:31 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I think you'll find its common knowledge from business pages world wide circa 2010.

I tend to think our chairman looks like Dr Evil - which is much better than a dumb looking cash strapped yank.

Careful now, as an Albion fan you're in a right big glass house on that issue.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 04:42:37 PM
It is an odd thing to try and pick at.

My Baggie mate who I mentioned earlier sent me a link to something the day Bale went to Madrid about some transfer between Villa and Albion 120 years ago.

I asked him 'Which way around was it then, us to you or you to us?' and his response was 'Behave! You'd always had more money than us even then!'
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Miguelito on November 22, 2013, 04:45:36 PM
Well pages 15 to 16 are odd....

Time to talk football? Inury news anyone?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 22, 2013, 04:46:18 PM
16 is even. Anyway, I'm only on Page 7...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: tom jennings III on November 22, 2013, 04:46:44 PM
fantasyfootballscout ‏@FFScout 3m
Benteke, Guzan, Weimann, Luna, Delph and Clark all trained today for Villa http://goo.gl/lUB9TI
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Miguelito on November 22, 2013, 04:48:30 PM
16 is even. Anyway, I'm only on Page 7...

touche...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 04:49:29 PM
Oh yeah! There's a match on Monday!

Excellent stuff. As suspected, Gabby won't be fit which is a shame, but I'd expect all six of those to start
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Miguelito on November 22, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
Gabby will be a big loss, he loves a local game.

Not sure i'd bring Luna in tbh. suppose it depends on the formation?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 22, 2013, 04:55:27 PM
Villa injury update: Fit and available – Benteke, Weimann, Luna, Clark, Guzan: Hopeful but doubtful – Agbonlahor, Delph
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 22, 2013, 04:56:50 PM
Gutted Gabby is out. Would be a big player for this game. Praying Delph is back!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 04:59:19 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I think you'll find its common knowledge from business pages world wide circa 2010.

I tend to think our chairman looks like Dr Evil - which is much better than a dumb looking cash strapped yank.

From a club who couldn't afford a loan fee for Lukaku.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 22, 2013, 05:08:22 PM
From a club who couldn't afford a loan fee for Lukaku.

We could.

We just chose not too.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: glasses on November 22, 2013, 05:15:55 PM
Or you chose to, and he chose Everton?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 22, 2013, 05:17:27 PM
From a club who couldn't afford a loan fee for Lukaku.

We could.

We just chose not too.

Possibly. You could also argue that if Shane Long had gone to Hull, then you maybe would have paid for Lukaku and Anichebe probably wouldn't be there. Maybe i'm wrong.

Cash strapped is one thing Randy isn't.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 22, 2013, 05:39:56 PM
From a club who couldn't afford a loan fee for Lukaku.

We could.

We just chose not too.

He had the choice and chose everton !
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on November 22, 2013, 06:03:45 PM
1-1

Beneteke to get back on the score sheet.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 22, 2013, 06:45:47 PM
I am sure Gabby will play a part on Monday. This is a great chance for Benteke and Weimann to really step up there season and Delph could be the difference in the MF. My WBA mate at work (who is a very nice bloke) is more worried about Bacuna !!! 0-2 Bacuna Weimann .......
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ez on November 22, 2013, 06:55:09 PM
If Delph is fit i'll be happy. Gabby isn't shining for me and might benefit from a rest.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 22, 2013, 06:55:30 PM
I am sure Gabby will play a part on Monday. This is a great chance for Benteke and Weimann to really step up there season and Delph could be the difference in the MF. My WBA mate at work (who is a very nice bloke) is more worried about Bacuna !!! 0-2 Bacuna Weimann .......

Considering he hasn't trained for weeks I'd say there no chance of gabby playing any part - once fit  lambert will likely ease him back gradually - we can win without him and we will do so.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 22, 2013, 06:55:51 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.

Sadly he has. The past few seasons he has dramatically cut back our spending. He gives the manager 20-25 millionish per season for transfers and tells them they have to make the wages breakeven.

Our managers call that "financial constraints".

You lot just had a massive investment year I think? Up to 10 million from your usual 5 right?

Good for you, you might be able to pick up a few big teams casts offs with that kind of money. Might keep you up for another season or two.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on November 22, 2013, 07:10:46 PM
Do we really have to suffer these Stripey Filth cretins on our site?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 22, 2013, 07:14:31 PM
Do we really have to suffer these Stripey Filth cretins on our site?

I like it. Come on, it is not a real derby but we can do out best to big it up.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 22, 2013, 07:15:16 PM
It is a real derby.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 22, 2013, 07:18:05 PM
I am sure Gabby will play a part on Monday. This is a great chance for Benteke and Weimann to really step up there season and Delph could be the difference in the MF. My WBA mate at work (who is a very nice bloke) is more worried about Bacuna !!! 0-2 Bacuna Weimann .......

Considering he hasn't trained for weeks I'd say there no chance of gabby playing any part - once fit  lambert will likely ease him back gradually - we can win without him and we will do so.



Like ya thinking eastie ......
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 22, 2013, 07:19:57 PM
It is a real derby.

Killjoy  :)

There are very few times we get to act like arrogant pricks these days. Lording it over WBA in the most patronizing manner is one of the pleasures of being a Villa fan.  ;D
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 22, 2013, 07:34:24 PM
Do we really have to suffer these Stripey Filth cretins on our site?
Where are they ? Let me at em.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dixiedeane on November 22, 2013, 08:47:30 PM
I love the banter between us two, it's done without the hate of you v blues or WBA v wolves.
 I'd like to say, even associating Stan's illness with any fans behavior is abhorrent. The Albion fan who attempted it earlier brings shame on all Albion fans, we are honest and fair, (and prone to the odd whine)
And I'd like to think, we're thought of as fair, I apologise for that fan earlier, and I hope for a cracker at HQ on Monday, sorry for interrupting your forum, but I felt compelled to apologise, we all have a minority of morons.
 Anyhoo, 2-2 again but I hope for 2-0
Peace
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 22, 2013, 08:50:42 PM
I love the banter between us two, it's done without the hate of you v blues or WBA v wolves.
 I'd like to say, even associating Stan's illness with any fans behavior is abhorrent. The Albion fan who attempted it earlier brings shame on all Albion fans, we are honest and fair, (and prone to the odd whine)
And I'd like to think, we're thought of as fair, I apologise for that fan earlier, and I hope for a cracker at HQ on Monday, sorry for interrupting your forum, but I felt compelled to apologise, we all have a minority of morons.
 Anyhoo, 2-2 again but I hope for 2-0
Peace

Thank you for that. I hope for 0-10 by the way but never get what I wish for.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smalltown boy pt III on November 22, 2013, 09:06:59 PM
Standard.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 22, 2013, 09:28:53 PM
I love the banter between us two, it's done without the hate of you v blues or WBA v wolves.
 I'd like to say, even associating Stan's illness with any fans behavior is abhorrent. The Albion fan who attempted it earlier brings shame on all Albion fans, we are honest and fair, (and prone to the odd whine)
And I'd like to think, we're thought of as fair, I apologise for that fan earlier, and I hope for a cracker at HQ on Monday, sorry for interrupting your forum, but I felt compelled to apologise, we all have a minority of morons.
 Anyhoo, 2-2 again but I hope for 2-0
Peace

Well said that man!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 22, 2013, 09:34:41 PM
I have read this with interest and could come up with a suitable riposte. It isnt worth it of course.

I may over the weekend but, for now, will leave with a simple "Ah Bless".
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nelly on November 22, 2013, 09:47:04 PM
After reading some of that I'm more grateful than ever to be a Villa fan.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: gervilla on November 22, 2013, 09:58:03 PM
I have never been compelled to go on another clubs fan forum ( if that is the correct terminology for what H & V is) and attempt to wind people up.
Maybe that is because I'm not obsessed with thinking we are better than another club, maybe it's because I'm just lazy.
We will smash the tosspots.
0-4
Benteke (3) Vlaar.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on November 22, 2013, 11:10:41 PM
Do we really have to suffer these Stripey Filth cretins on our site?

I like it. Come on, it is not a real derby but we can do out best to big it up.

Even those with a mental age of deserve an opinion.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on November 22, 2013, 11:26:21 PM
I don't think Albion fans booed Jeff Astle and then pretended to love him once he got poorly?

Your most famous supporter made a laughing stock of Jeff Astle while he was suffering from a degenerative disease.

That was incredibly classy, I thought.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on November 22, 2013, 11:48:18 PM
I don't think Albion fans booed Jeff Astle and then pretended to love him once he got poorly?

Your most famous supporter made a laughing stock of Jeff Astle while he was suffering from a degenerative disease.

That was incredibly classy, I thought.

On the subject of celebrity supporters, and gleefully descending to level of the bitters' bants displayed in this thread, here is Stewart Lee on that oaf Chiles:

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 23, 2013, 12:32:24 AM
I love the banter between us two, it's done without the hate of you v blues or WBA v wolves.
 I'd like to say, even associating Stan's illness with any fans behavior is abhorrent. The Albion fan who attempted it earlier brings shame on all Albion fans, we are honest and fair, (and prone to the odd whine)
And I'd like to think, we're thought of as fair, I apologise for that fan earlier, and I hope for a cracker at HQ on Monday, sorry for interrupting your forum, but I felt compelled to apologise, we all have a minority of morons.
 Anyhoo, 2-2 again but I hope for 2-0
Peace

Fair do's. Thanks for posting this.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on November 23, 2013, 08:44:34 AM
I love the banter between us two, it's done without the hate of you v blues or WBA v wolves.
 I'd like to say, even associating Stan's illness with any fans behavior is abhorrent. The Albion fan who attempted it earlier brings shame on all Albion fans, we are honest and fair, (and prone to the odd whine)
And I'd like to think, we're thought of as fair, I apologise for that fan earlier, and I hope for a cracker at HQ on Monday, sorry for interrupting your forum, but I felt compelled to apologise, we all have a minority of morons.
 Anyhoo, 2-2 again but I hope for 2-0
Peace

Appreciated, and all clubs have morons so you're not unique there. 
Why Dixie Deane by the way?  Have I missed something, but I associate that name with Everton not WBA?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 23, 2013, 08:51:56 AM
There is no way we should lose this game. No way on Earth.

Having said that, the thought of them turning us over is too much for me to comprehend. I loathe how much better than us they have become over the last couple of years. I remember the days when this was the big midlands derby. Small Heath and Wolves were miniscule, and this was the big 'un. For so many years I laughed at how they went to the shit tip in the doldrums of lower league football, whilst we sat pretty in the top flight. I mean come on, we've been in the Premier League since its conception. Where were they in the league?

If we attack early and then sit back and stay tight, we should be able to seal the win, m'lord. But I do fear their attacking prowess. That Berahino chap is the new Defoe. Sessegnon is a worldy of a player. That chap who scored at Old Trafford is a ridiculously good winger.

This won't be easy chaps. Be afraid. VERY afraid.

Their posts are getting more and more subtle, this one really is cunning, it took me days to work it out...
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on November 23, 2013, 09:08:11 AM
When one of their own (or is he another of the borrowed, I can't be arsed to keep up) knows who they are, nothing more needs to be said.

I see Mulumbu has said playing us is like playing in the European Cup.

Ay, we know what they are alright.

http://www.expressandstar.com/sport/west-bromwich-albion-fc/2013/11/18/west-broms-youssouf-mulumbu-stokes-up-derby-heat/

The second someone compares a league game to "their cup final" or similar, you have all the evidence you need that they're a bunch of a paranoid no marks, with an inferiority complex the size of the Milky Way and can only claim to be well balanced because of an equal number of chips on both shoulders.

We know what they are, they know what they are, the whole fucking universe knows what they are.  Jealous.

See also Small Heath, Coventry, Wolves.

Of course being a gobby sort I couldn't help myself.:-D

Honourable exceptions for Liam and dixiedean, and any other sensible types. But for those that represent the majority of them I grew up with in Smethwick in the 70s, the above definitely applies.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dixiedeane on November 23, 2013, 09:47:04 AM
you can appreciate genius anywhere imo Dixie Dean was just that. and as my names Deane
It just fitted, it's also my PSN name and will be on the PS4 soon, hit me up for some cracking banter, I can smash it with the best, and I'll enjoy winding you buggers up for weeks after Monday, man alive, it can't get much better than smashing the Scruffs 5-1 at mollypoo, which incidentally pushed em back to where they seem to have found their level! Lol
 Don't forget to bring yer ear muffs, it gets a little louder at our place than yours x
;)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2013, 09:49:08 AM
you can appreciate genius anywhere imo Dixie Dean was just that. and as my names Deane
It just fitted, it's also my PSN name and will be on the PS4 soon, hit me up for some cracking banter, I can smash it with the best, and I'll enjoy winding you buggers up for weeks after Monday, man alive, it can't get much better than smashing the Scruffs 5-1 at mollypoo, which incidentally pushed em back to where they seem to have found their level! Lol
 Don't forget to bring yer ear muffs, it gets a little louder at our place than yours x
;)

Thing do sound louder in small rooms.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eamonn on November 23, 2013, 03:23:34 PM
Is Stewart Lee a Villan? Good stuff, the cantankerous, odd legend.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 23, 2013, 03:30:28 PM
you can appreciate genius anywhere imo Dixie Dean was just that. and as my names Deane
It just fitted, it's also my PSN name and will be on the PS4 soon, hit me up for some cracking banter, I can smash it with the best, and I'll enjoy winding you buggers up for weeks after Monday, man alive, it can't get much better than smashing the Scruffs 5-1 at mollypoo, which incidentally pushed em back to where they seem to have found their level! Lol
 Don't forget to bring yer ear muffs, it gets a little louder at our place than yours x
;)
You will need to chop your ears off matey because we will be louder than you all game. Will your IKEA made ground be able to stand it ? ;D
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 23, 2013, 03:33:03 PM
Aw, look, bless.

https://twitter.com/AlbionCentral/status/404269917039763457/photo/1

Banner made by their sponsors.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on November 23, 2013, 03:35:06 PM
Aw, look, bless.

https://twitter.com/AlbionCentral/status/404269917039763457/photo/1

Banner made by their sponsors.



How embarrassing.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 23, 2013, 03:36:43 PM
Aw, look, bless.

https://twitter.com/AlbionCentral/status/404269917039763457/photo/1

Banner made by their sponsors.



Do they timeshare their away support with the rags?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 23, 2013, 03:40:10 PM
Fancy banner that. Must have taken a lot of imagination.
Bless em.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: jeowje on November 23, 2013, 04:09:04 PM
Anybody know how many tickets we were allocated/have sold?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 23, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Marlon From Bearwood on November 23, 2013, 05:16:11 PM
Aw, look, bless.

https://twitter.com/AlbionCentral/status/404269917039763457/photo/1

Banner made by their sponsors.



Pretty much everything about that club and it's fans is cringeworthy in the extreme.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 23, 2013, 05:18:49 PM
Can somebody help me with something, please? A couple of times now I've heard this 'we know what we are' bollocks, but apart from it being the worst chant in the history of organised sport, what on earth does it mean?

Are these slack-jawed, drool-spattered Albion simpletons saying:

We know we're a small team from a two-donkey post-industrial backwater, somewhere in Sandwell?

We know we're descended from illiterate pig-farmers who failed to master the art of standing upright?

We know we're not the brightest buttons on the blazer, but wim 'appy?

Just what is it that they all appear to know they are? Can anybody enlighten me?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 23, 2013, 05:31:42 PM
Can somebody help me with something, please? A couple of times now I've heard this 'we know what we are' bollocks, but apart from it being the worst chant in the history of organised sport, what on earth does it mean?

Are these slack-jawed, drool-spattered Albion simpletons saying:

We know we're a small team from a two-donkey post-industrial backwater, somewhere in Sandwell?

We know we're descended from illiterate pig-farmers who failed to master the art of standing upright?

We know we're not the brightest buttons on the blazer, but wim 'appy?

Just what is it that they all appear to know they are? Can anybody enlighten me?

I've always assumed it was 'jealous of the Villa', in which case we know what they are as well.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 23, 2013, 05:33:04 PM
I have no natural dislike for WBA my only "real" dislike is with the scum up the road. So I cannot take WBA fans serious enough to respond. With only one manager this century who have beaten us, I just see this as another game I want us to win regardless. Ye its a "derby" but three points will shut them up for another few years. 0-2 Bacuna-Weimann Game over !!!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Lambert and Payne on November 23, 2013, 06:00:47 PM
Anybody know how many tickets we were allocated/have sold?

2,450 allocated and sold. 150 down on last season for persistent standing.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: peter w on November 23, 2013, 06:15:28 PM
Anybody know how many tickets we were allocated/have sold?

2,450 allocated and sold. 150 down on last season for persistent standing.

That'll learn 'em.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 23, 2013, 06:59:16 PM
Is Stewart Lee a Villan? Good stuff, the cantankerous, odd legend.

I don't think he likes football. He mentioned somewhere that he felt alienated in his youth living in Solihull because, unlike his peers, he had no wish to beat up Aston Villa fans, or words to that effect.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paul_e on November 23, 2013, 07:01:53 PM
Is Stewart Lee a Villan? Good stuff, the cantankerous, odd legend.

I don't think he likes football. He mentioned somewhere that he felt alienated in his youth living in Solihull because, unlike his peers, he had no wish to beat up Aston Villa fans, or words to that effect.

and to be fair you don't have to be a villa fan to think that Chiles is a wanker.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Sexual Ealing on November 23, 2013, 07:45:20 PM
Is Stewart Lee a Villan? Good stuff, the cantankerous, odd legend.

I don't think he likes football. He mentioned somewhere that he felt alienated in his youth living in Solihull because, unlike his peers, he had no wish to beat up Aston Villa fans, or words to that effect.

and to be fair you don't have to be a villa fan to think that Chiles is a wanker.

Indeed!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 23, 2013, 08:15:09 PM
It's not too impressive that they're struggling to shift 25,000 tickets.

I reckon if they'd given us the 25k and them the 2.5k, we'd sell them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on November 23, 2013, 08:53:50 PM
It's not too impressive that they're struggling to shift 25,000 tickets.

I reckon if they'd given us the 25k and them the 2.5k, we'd sell them.

We had over 20k there when we played Wrexham in a League Cup 2nd replay in 1971.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PGW on November 23, 2013, 09:02:52 PM
It's not too impressive that they're struggling to shift 25,000 tickets.

I reckon if they'd given us the 25k and them the 2.5k, we'd sell them.
Fond memories of that game v Wrexham - 4-3 if i remember correctly Andy Lochhead a couple a Willie Anderson pen and an o.g - crowd 20697 (I looked the crowd up my memory ain't that good)

We had over 20k there when we played Wrexham in a League Cup 2nd replay in 1971.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on November 23, 2013, 09:09:12 PM
The difference between Villa and any of our Midland rivals (?) is simple. When we are in the Doldrums it means loitering around the bottom half of the top division. When the pretenders are doing shite they are playing Crewe, Doncaster et al in divisions that don't concern us. Well done Baggies, you've picked up some quality loan acquisitions and surpassed yourselves - for a bit. Monday's result? Christ knows.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 23, 2013, 09:40:25 PM
From a club who couldn't afford a loan fee for Lukaku.

We could.

We just chose not too.

You seem a decent enough type, Liam (as does that Dixie chap) but, really?

"That really good striker, the one who scored 17 goals for you last season, was your top scorer and best player, do you want to borrow him again?"

"Nah, we've had a think about it, and we're going to sign Nicolas Anelka from FC Dim Sum instead."

Everton run a tighter wages policy than an iphone factory in China, so it takes something to be outbid by them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dixiedeane on November 23, 2013, 11:05:21 PM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)
The "we know what we are" chant is just a bit of a two fingered salute to our two esteemed neighbours, your mob and the Scruffs on the border.
Both, in my opinion, 'bigger'  clubs, regarding gates and in your case, honours. Not massively btw.
 So, most albayun fans know we are batting way above our station, and were just enjoying it while it lasts, is that ok?
 We're not city, were a well run provincial club, and we love our club the same way you do, so if it looks to you like we're delusional by claiming to be pride of the midlands, were not, we're just taking the piss cos were doing marginally better than you.
 So there it is.
Any questions?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 23, 2013, 11:11:42 PM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)
The "we know what we are" chant is just a bit of a two fingered salute to our two esteemed neighbours, your mob and the Scruffs on the border.
Both, in my opinion, 'bigger'  clubs, regarding gates and in your case, honours. Not massively btw.
 So, most albayun fans know we are batting way above our station, and were just enjoying it while it lasts, is that ok?
 We're not city, were a well run provincial club, and we love our club the same way you do, so if it looks to you like we're delusional by claiming to be pride of the midlands, were not, we're just taking the piss cos were doing marginally better than you.
 So there it is.
Any questions?

You really do want it both ways don't you? "We're only a little club, we're doing ever so well", then 20  trophies isn't massively better than seven.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 23, 2013, 11:26:57 PM
Appreciate comments from Liam and Dixie.

Villa win all day long.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on November 24, 2013, 12:50:38 AM
Us not being massively bigger than Sandwell FC wins the internet as the funniest comment ever posted online.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 24, 2013, 01:06:30 AM
Love Lambert's comments, he really doesn't give a shit about them either. Three points is all that matters.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 24, 2013, 01:14:27 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)
The "we know what we are" chant is just a bit of a two fingered salute to our two esteemed neighbours, your mob and the Scruffs on the border.
Both, in my opinion, 'bigger'  clubs, regarding gates and in your case, honours. Not massively btw.
 So, most albayun fans know we are batting way above our station, and were just enjoying it while it lasts, is that ok?
 We're not city, were a well run provincial club, and we love our club the same way you do, so if it looks to you like we're delusional by claiming to be pride of the midlands, were not, we're just taking the piss cos were doing marginally better than you.
 So there it is.
Any questions?

Thank you very much for clearing that up. Wouldn't a far more succinct, accurate and culturally significant chant be: 'We know what we aren't?'
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on November 24, 2013, 08:21:42 AM
I wouldn't have Wolves down as bigger than WBA.  I'm especially surprised Baggies think that way.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 24, 2013, 08:59:06 AM
Yes, a club that has won more trophies than all the other clubs in the Weat Midlands combined is only marginally bigger than 1 trophy in 45 years West Brom.
Title: Re: The Bitters v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Villa_pride on November 24, 2013, 09:19:15 AM
We need a poll!

1) Bitter Birds
2) Stripey Filth
3) Sandwell Town
4) Tesco Bags

Smethwick Stripes
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 24, 2013, 09:58:19 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)
The "we know what we are" chant is just a bit of a two fingered salute to our two esteemed neighbours, your mob and the Scruffs on the border.
Both, in my opinion, 'bigger'  clubs, regarding gates and in your case, honours. Not massively btw.
 So, most albayun fans know we are batting way above our station, and were just enjoying it while it lasts, is that ok?
 We're not city, were a well run provincial club, and we love our club the same way you do, so if it looks to you like we're delusional by claiming to be pride of the midlands, were not, we're just taking the piss cos were doing marginally better than you.
 So there it is.
Any questions?

Yes, are you all a bit simple?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 24, 2013, 10:06:48 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)

Even though we have no access to able to watch you 'type slowly' and you call us a bit dim, good god, how embarrassing.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 10:29:18 AM
Must have been on the bottled Bathams.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dixiedeane on November 24, 2013, 10:49:41 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)

Even though we have no access to able to watch you 'type slowly' and you call us a bit dim, good god, how embarrassing.
That's the point you prat.

Now, if this ISN'T proof, I don't know what is...;)
You lot are just a bit pissy because you  USED to be a big club, but are now forced to be mediocre.
Enjoy not being famous. Doug Ellis was the best thing to ever happen to you and you chased him out.
He's always up our place btw.
Time will tell, but while the Albion continue to bat above average, I'll be feeling smug in the knowledge that you used to be a big club, but no longer are, we actually stand a good chance of beating you tomorrow, when I was in my teens, that was unthinkable, we've come a long way, and your heading towards wolves, you barely escaped last year, this year you look much better, but it's not an impossibility you might go down. No one punts for us as relegation fodder anymore.
Long may that continue.

I like how villa are going forward though with young hungry players, btw, a good template for any club
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 24, 2013, 10:54:38 AM
We were a big club 100 years ago, we are a big club now and in another 100 years we will stil be a big club. I would imagine in a 100 years time your players will still be saying that playing against the Villa is like playing a Champions League tie.

Bless. We know exactly what you are.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 24, 2013, 10:59:36 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)

Even though we have no access to able to watch you 'type slowly' and you call us a bit dim, good god, how embarrassing.
That's the point you prat.

Now, if this ISN'T proof, I don't know what is...;)
You lot are just a bit pissy because you  USED to be a big club, but are now forced to be mediocre.
Enjoy not being famous. Doug Ellis was the best thing to ever happen to you and you chased him out.
He's always up our place btw.
Time will tell, but while the Albion continue to bat above average, I'll be feeling smug in the knowledge that you used to be a big club, but no longer are, we actually stand a good chance of beating you tomorrow, when I was in my teens, that was unthinkable, we've come a long way, and your heading towards wolves, you barely escaped last year, this year you look much better, but it's not an impossibility you might go down. No one punts for us as relegation fodder anymore.
Long may that continue.

I like how villa are going forward though with young hungry players, btw, a good template for any club

We didn't force Ellis out, he was in his 80's, got offered a good price and decided to sell up. He couldn't have carried on running it forever.

As for us 'being pissy', obviously not pissy enough to log onto another clubs fanzine website and start er...being pissy. Stupidity at its best.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 24, 2013, 11:08:40 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)

Even though we have no access to able to watch you 'type slowly' and you call us a bit dim, good god, how embarrassing.
That's the point you prat.

Now, if this ISN'T proof, I don't know what is...;)
You lot are just a bit pissy because you  USED to be a big club, but are now forced to be mediocre.
Enjoy not being famous. Doug Ellis was the best thing to ever happen to you and you chased him out.
He's always up our place btw.
Time will tell, but while the Albion continue to bat above average, I'll be feeling smug in the knowledge that you used to be a big club, but no longer are, we actually stand a good chance of beating you tomorrow, when I was in my teens, that was unthinkable, we've come a long way, and your heading towards wolves, you barely escaped last year, this year you look much better, but it's not an impossibility you might go down. No one punts for us as relegation fodder anymore.
Long may that continue.

I like how villa are going forward though with young hungry players, btw, a good template for any club

I think what Dickiedavies is trying to say is that, deep down, he's a Villa fan. That's fine. You can join us if you really want to. Thing is, we have an entrance exam and it's quite rigorous. Good luck.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 11:09:26 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)

Even though we have no access to able to watch you 'type slowly' and you call us a bit dim, good god, how embarrassing.
That's the point you prat.

Now, if this ISN'T proof, I don't know what is...;)
You lot are just a bit pissy because you  USED to be a big club, but are now forced to be mediocre.
Enjoy not being famous. Doug Ellis was the best thing to ever happen to you and you chased him out.
He's always up our place btw.
Time will tell, but while the Albion continue to bat above average, I'll be feeling smug in the knowledge that you used to be a big club, but no longer are, we actually stand a good chance of beating you tomorrow, when I was in my teens, that was unthinkable, we've come a long way, and your heading towards wolves, you barely escaped last year, this year you look much better, but it's not an impossibility you might go down. No one punts for us as relegation fodder anymore.
Long may that continue.

I like how villa are going forward though with young hungry players, btw, a good template for any club

Please don't resort to abuse.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2013, 11:40:56 AM
I know you lot am a bit dim, so I'll type this slowly for ya ;)

Even though we have no access to able to watch you 'type slowly' and you call us a bit dim, good god, how embarrassing.
That's the point you prat.

Now, if this ISN'T proof, I don't know what is...;)
You lot are just a bit pissy because you  USED to be a big club, but are now forced to be mediocre.
Enjoy not being famous. Doug Ellis was the best thing to ever happen to you and you chased him out.
He's always up our place btw.
Time will tell, but while the Albion continue to bat above average, I'll be feeling smug in the knowledge that you used to be a big club, but no longer are, we actually stand a good chance of beating you tomorrow, when I was in my teens, that was unthinkable, we've come a long way, and your heading towards wolves, you barely escaped last year, this year you look much better, but it's not an impossibility you might go down. No one punts for us as relegation fodder anymore.
Long may that continue.

I like how villa are going forward though with young hungry players, btw, a good template for any club

What was that I was saying about wanting it both ways? Friendly when you're agreeing with them, then slag you off and squeal in surprised outrage when you have a go back.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Havencheese on November 24, 2013, 12:34:23 PM
The blue and while stripey filth are just the new Coventry.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 24, 2013, 12:50:09 PM
Appreciate comments from Liam and Dixie.

Villa win all day long.



Really?
I wouldn't have Wolves down as bigger than WBA.  I'm especially surprised Baggies think that way.

About on a par to me though I would have Wolves as the bigger club I think based on their more illustrious history and the fact that were they where the Tesco Bags are now, they'd be getting bigger crowds. Having said that, I'd put both of them somewhere midpoint between Coventry and us in terms of the Midlands hierarchy. Or to put it more simply, they are about on a par with Nottingham Forest
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 24, 2013, 01:02:05 PM
Appreciate comments from Liam and Dixie.

Villa win all day long.



Really?

Ha! Maybe not as appreciative since young Dixie went all un-necessary on the last couple of posts. Then again, one can appreciate the effort it must have taken to appear cuddly, sporting and intelligent before it all got a bit too much to sustain.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: sirlordbaltimore on November 24, 2013, 01:04:21 PM

Up until this last month, i've LITERALLY never even cared about the Baggies.

Finishing below them never hurts me, losing to them never hurts me anymore than losing to anyone else. I've just never had any hatred towards them at all.

But by God they've got some fucking retarded supporters. The WM phone ins being a prime example, that said our own supporters on there are equally borish arseholes.

But I never realised they hated the Villa so much, but they've got a collective hard on about beating us and supposedly being the biggest team in the region all of a sudden.

Hopefully our lads will shut them the fuck up tomorrow. If not, then life goes on as normal. And they get there open top bus parade around Smethwick



Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 24, 2013, 01:05:17 PM
They can't keep it up for long can they! Mind you, people with inferiority complexes never can in any walk of life. They try to keep a lid on it but it always pops off eventually, normally spectacularly so
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on November 24, 2013, 01:14:32 PM
True,but before getting carried away,a quick mental review of posts I've made over the last couple of years reveal, er, inconsistencies of intelligibility from time to time, shall we say.

However, I have never felt the slightest need to show myself up on another fans' forum!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on November 24, 2013, 01:29:05 PM
I've always considered Wolves a bigger club Sandwell, certainly on history and tradition, which of course doesn't count for anything when you don't have any.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: exiled on the wirral! on November 24, 2013, 02:21:56 PM
Wolves certainly have a bigger support(away as well as at home), a much better ground, shade it in terms of past achievements...i think you can say they are a bigger club than Smethwick
 Id place WBA slightly above Small Heath, below Notts Forest and Leicester and probably on par with Derby.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 24, 2013, 02:29:42 PM
Do we sing about Olbiun when we don't play them? No we don't.
Do they sing about us when we don't play them? Yes they do.

When we finish above them do we have a tee-shirt printed? No we don't.
When they finish above us do they have a tee shirt printed? Yes they do.

If we win on Monday will we bring out a DVD to celebrate it and go on about it all season? No we won't
You know the rest....
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2013, 02:42:57 PM
Wolves are bigger, Stripeys have more history. Both are way ahead of Small Heath.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 02:53:03 PM
Wolves are bigger, Stripeys have more history. Both are way ahead of Small Heath.

I have always looked on wolves as the 2nd biggest club in the midlands too, not sure who I would 3rd biggest - forest , derby, WBA?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 24, 2013, 02:59:28 PM
Wolves were a big club, with nationwide appeal at one point in their heyday in the 1950's. They seem happy enough with their history, enough not to hate us for ours anyway.  I'm sure some of our lot who live out Tipton way might say different. 

Under the right circumstances, they could be big again.  Not on a par with the Billy Wright era, but top 8 maybe. They probably could get gates close to 35-40,000 too, if they were doing reasonably well once the ground expansion is finally completed.  Not sure the Olbiyun have that sort of appeal.  B-lose definitely don't, struggling to get 20,000 at times in the top flight finally nailed that particular myth. As for Cov, you could give 30,000+ tickets away and still nae fucker would want to see them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: levico on November 24, 2013, 05:03:56 PM
Can't help but feel that we may struggle to get anything out of tomorrow's game. It's largely dependent on who is available after injury but I just feel that WBA, like their fans, put more store in this game than perhaps we do.

Still, I'm usually wrong.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on November 24, 2013, 05:10:22 PM
Can't help but feel that we may struggle to get anything out of tomorrow's game. It's largely dependent on who is available after injury but I just feel that WBA, like their fans, put more store in this game than perhaps we do.

Still, I'm usually wrong.

No idea what the result will be either - thought we were in for a pounding last year and ended up being disappointed with the draw
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on November 24, 2013, 05:11:17 PM
Do we sing about Olbiun when we don't play them? No we don't.
Do they sing about us when we don't play them? Yes they do.

When we finish above them do we have a tee-shirt printed? No we don't.
When they finish above us do they have a tee shirt printed? Yes they do.

If we win on Monday will we bring out a DVD to celebrate it and go on about it all season? No we won't
You know the rest....

The atmosphere at villa park when we play them seems no different to when we play Everton, spurs etc. You can't say that when small Heath visit, that shows it's not that big for us.
Just been told a free ticket is coming my way for tomorrow so will do my damned best to enjoy it. In with their lot though which is never the same is it?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Liam_Baggies on November 24, 2013, 06:03:09 PM

You seem a decent enough type, Liam (as does that Dixie chap) but, really?

"That really good striker, the one who scored 17 goals for you last season, was your top scorer and best player, do you want to borrow him again?"

"Nah, we've had a think about it, and we're going to sign Nicolas Anelka from FC Dim Sum instead."

Everton run a tighter wages policy than an iphone factory in China, so it takes something to be outbid by them.

Yes, really.

We have to be prudent and use our money wisely in order to survive and improve in this league. We can't throw money around like there's no tomorrow.

We were prepared to pay in the reigon of £5million to take him back for a season, Everton went and beat that offer. It's also worth remembering that Everton were boosted that night by the cash windfall they received for Fellani so whatever we bid, they would have likely matched and beaten - we had also spent money earlier in the night on Sessegnon (£5million),Anichebe (£3) - the rest are made up of add ons and the loan fee for Amalfitano - thus meaning we were stretching our resources.

We made the the right decision as much as I would have loved to have seen him back.

There comes a point when we have to move on from Lukaku and we're doing that this season. Everton really do not understand how difficult it will be for them next season to replace him.

Your quotes that you have given, I would imagine, out of humour, couldn't be any further from the truth.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chris Smith on November 24, 2013, 06:08:08 PM
Wolves are bigger, Stripeys have more history. Both are way ahead of Small Heath.

I have always looked on wolves as the 2nd biggest club in the midlands too, not sure who I would 3rd biggest - forest , derby, WBA?

i don't like these 'bigger club' debates as there so many variables but, from my experience, I think Forest have more support that the Wolves and have been more successful in most of our life times.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on November 24, 2013, 06:10:57 PM
It's funny as I class Derby as the biggest club in the east midlands out of them Forest and Leicester!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 24, 2013, 06:58:10 PM
In my lifetime, 1970 onwards, if we make it simple by calling the divisions 1,2,3 and 4 and the Leyland Daf thing the Football League (FL) Trophy -

Villa - 4 league cups, 1 first division, 1 third division, 1 european cup, 1 super cup, 1 inter-toto cup and half a charity shield.

Wolves - 2 league cups, 1 FL trophy, 2 second divisions, 1 second division play off, 1 third division, 1 fourth division.

Leicester - 2 league cups, 1 charity shield, 2 second divisions, 1 second division play off, 1 third division.

Forest - 2 european cups, 1 first division, 4 league cups, 1 charity shield, 2 full members cups, 1 second division.

Derby - 2 first division, 1 second division, 1 second division play off, 1 charity shield.

Blues - 1 league cup, 2 FL trophies, 1 third division, 1 second division play off.

Coventry - 1 FA cup.

Walsall -  1 third division, 1 third division play off.

Albion - 1 second division, 1 third division play off.





Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 07:00:01 PM
Forest are the bigger club imv
In the East Mids that is.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
Forest are far bigger than Derby.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 07:07:23 PM
Forest are far bigger than Derby.

I wouldn't say far bigger , both similar size to me - not sure what their average gates are but I think derby owed their glory days to cloughie whereas forest owed their glory days to er cloughie.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 07:10:54 PM
Forest are far bigger than Derby.

I wouldn't say far bigger , both similar size to me - not sure what their average gates are but I think derby owed their glory days to cloughie whereas forest owed their glory days to er cloughie.
The 2 European cups might sway it matey.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 07:15:12 PM
Just looked at the top flight all time table and derby were 15th, forest 18th- both clubs were very successful in the 70s with derby champions twice and forest once -  derby one fa cup, forest 2 , and forest a few league cups plus of course their European days .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 07:16:04 PM
Forest are far bigger than Derby.

I wouldn't say far bigger , both similar size to me - not sure what their average gates are but I think derby owed their glory days to cloughie whereas forest owed their glory days to er cloughie.
The 2 European cups might sway it matey.



Does that make them bigger than arsenal, Chelsea and villa as well ;)
I was looking at the overall picture and not that much to choose between the two clubs for me , as I say on overall league position derby more successful and more league titles , similar crowds but forest more successful in Europe.

I wouldn't say one is far bigger than the other , but back on topic I would say villa are far bigger than the Albion.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
No.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Nev on November 24, 2013, 07:19:08 PM
Just been to the weigh in at the pub.

My questioning of the leniency of Dowd towards fouls in the Merseyside Derby compared to what might happen tomorrow night was deemed to be me "getting my excuses in early", we were were lucky when we won the European Cup and I really hate Sandwell apparently despite the fact that I will watch the game with many of their fans tomorrow. One said that he wouldn't hang about if they got beat, I said I would if we did.

If we were playing Small Heath I wouldn't sleep tonight.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 07:27:35 PM
No.
?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 24, 2013, 07:28:47 PM
Just been to the weigh in at the pub.

My questioning of the leniency of Dowd towards fouls in the Merseyside Derby compared to what might happen tomorrow night was deemed to be me "getting my excuses in early", we were were lucky when we won the European Cup and I really hate Sandwell apparently despite the fact that I will watch the game with many of their fans tomorrow. One said that he wouldn't hang about if they got beat, I said I would if we did.

If we were playing Small Heath I wouldn't sleep tonight.

I wouldn't sleep either. It would mean we had been relegated.

The Mirallas tackle was right up there with Gareth Barry's (against Hull I think) for one of the worst unpunished challenges this season.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 07:30:32 PM
No.
?

Quote
Does that make them bigger than arsenal, Chelsea and villa as well ;)

No.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 24, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
Want to beat these tossers, had an immense dislike of them since that *anker ruined Alex Cropleys career. Will be interesting to see what team Lambert goes with, seems as if we have a few options
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 07:33:30 PM
No.
?

Quote
Does that make them bigger than arsenal, Chelsea and villa as well ;)

No.
Gotcha.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 07:34:53 PM
Want to beat these tossers, had an immense dislike of them since that *anker ruined Alex Cropleys career. Will be interesting to see what team Lambert goes with, seems as if we have a few options

I've long given up trying to guess his selections .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 24, 2013, 07:35:47 PM
I was always under the impression that despite my early years watching football from 1977 onwards coinciding with Forest and Derby's fortunes being very different, Derby were bigger as it was more of a football area and also a one club city/town.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on November 24, 2013, 07:36:49 PM
2-0 them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dixiedeane on November 24, 2013, 07:37:17 PM
Apologies, slipped into 'banter' for a minute, just to clear a few things up, 1) I saw a post on Facebook with a link to this thread, checked it out, and was appalled at the Stan comments from a Baggie.
2) size of club is opinion but my opinion is Villa derby wolves WBA and forest, blues Walsall, based mainly on gates.
3) I didn't mean to come across as pissy, my bad.
4) it is a big game for us, because we have to listen to you lot lording it over us year in year out, so it'd be lovely to ruff n stuff ya.
5) a bit of banter never hurts so calm yer skin down ladies.
6) epic thread
Dixie out.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 07:39:09 PM
Apologies, slipped into 'banter' for a minute, just to clear a few things up, 1) I saw a post on Facebook with a link to this thread, checked it out, and was appalled at the Stan comments from a Baggie.
2) size of club is opinion but my opinion is Villa derby wolves WBA and forest, blues Walsall, based mainly on gates.
3) I didn't mean to come across as pissy, my bad.
4) it is a big game for us, because we have to listen to you lot lording it over us year in year out, so it'd be lovely to ruff n stuff ya.
5) a bit of banter never hurts so calm yer skin down ladies.
6) epic thread
Dixie out.

Fair comments mate, may the best team win tomorrow night !
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
Apologies, slipped into 'banter' for a minute, just to clear a few things up, 1) I saw a post on Facebook with a link to this thread, checked it out, and was appalled at the Stan comments from a Baggie.
2) size of club is opinion but my opinion is Villa derby wolves WBA and forest, blues Walsall, based mainly on gates.
3) I didn't mean to come across as pissy, my bad.
4) it is a big game for us, because we have to listen to you lot lording it over us year in year out, so it'd be lovely to ruff n stuff ya.
5) a bit of banter never hurts so calm yer skin down ladies.
6) epic thread
Dixie out.

Fair comments mate, may the best team win tomorrow night !
That's a Villa win then eastie. Happy days ;)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 24, 2013, 07:44:54 PM
Want to beat these tossers, had an immense dislike of them since that *anker ruined Alex Cropleys career. Will be interesting to see what team Lambert goes with, seems as if we have a few options

I've long given up trying to guess his selections .

Reckon Lowton may start with Bacuna in front of him, good to see Delph back as well
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 07:47:01 PM
Just in case:

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/HVLegion/Villa/ORANGEDOT.gif) (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/HVLegion/media/Villa/ORANGEDOT.gif.html)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dixiedeane on November 24, 2013, 07:48:11 PM
Apologies, slipped into 'banter' for a minute, just to clear a few things up, 1) I saw a post on Facebook with a link to this thread, checked it out, and was appalled at the Stan comments from a Baggie.
2) size of club is opinion but my opinion is Villa derby wolves WBA and forest, blues Walsall, based mainly on gates.
3) I didn't mean to come across as pissy, my bad.
4) it is a big game for us, because we have to listen to you lot lording it over us year in year out, so it'd be lovely to ruff n stuff ya.
5) a bit of banter never hurts so calm yer skin down ladies.
6) epic thread
Dixie out.

Fair comments mate, may the best team win tomorrow night !
Can't we all just get together and........laugh at blues and wolves?????
Cheers pal utb
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Steve kirk on November 24, 2013, 07:49:53 PM
Two obnoxious Albion twats at work who I would love to kick the shit out of should we win but I think will be a very hard fought 1-1 draw which will be more than ok.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
Two obnoxious Albion twats at work who I would love to kick the shit out of should we win but I think will be a very hard fought 1-1 draw which will be more than ok.

For me its two evenly matched teams and too close to call , could go either way but I hope we nick it 1-2
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 07:53:52 PM
I'll take a draw but would love a win.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 24, 2013, 07:57:35 PM
I will take the orange dot.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 24, 2013, 08:01:12 PM
Is Gabby fit?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dio1874 on November 24, 2013, 08:02:51 PM
Think it'll be 3-1 to the lions, but then again they might grab a point at home.

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: N'Zimidy on November 24, 2013, 08:07:14 PM
Just in case:

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/HVLegion/Villa/ORANGEDOT.gif) (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/HVLegion/media/Villa/ORANGEDOT.gif.html)

Worked a treat against Cardiff and won me a healthy sum of cash.

All hail orange dot.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 08:08:35 PM
Is Gabby fit?

Don't think so .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: villan from luton on November 24, 2013, 08:12:06 PM
Shame Gabby aint fit as there defence aint the quickest
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: steffo on November 24, 2013, 08:24:27 PM
Please play Tonev on the right wing v Agent Ridgewell.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 24, 2013, 08:25:34 PM
Would prefer to see Weimann there.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on November 24, 2013, 08:25:52 PM
Is Gabby fit?

Don't think so .

In Lamberts press conference it sounds like Gabby could be available but has had no real match fitness. Weimann and Benteke fit, I think we might get the last half hour with Gabby coming on depending on the score ......
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 24, 2013, 08:26:34 PM
I keep getting visions of Tonev smashing the ball into the roof of the net from about 30 yards.

I think if he bags, he'll do it again straight after so I'm going 3-1.

We'll go behind, then score the three in the last 20.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 24, 2013, 08:29:55 PM
Is Gabby fit?

Don't think so .

In Lamberts press conference it sounds like Gabby could be available but has had no real match fitness. Weimann and Benteke fit, I think we might get the last half hour with Gabby coming on depending on the score ......

Didn't sound like that to me - he hasn't even trained in weeks and I can't see lambert risking him having a recurrence after weeks out , he will ease him back gently - we have plenty of options .
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on November 24, 2013, 08:55:39 PM
My post from 18th Nov LeeB:

0-0 until Tonev comes on with half hour to go.
Bit of a run and a crazy shot from 35 yards - 1-0.
Repeat - 2-0.
Head homewards happy, call in at pub and go to bed slightly pi**ed, to sleep the sleep of the righteous.
UTV!

I keep getting visions of Tonev smashing the ball into the roof of the net from about 30 yards.

I think if he bags, he'll do it again straight after so I'm going 3-1.

We'll go behind, then score the three in the last 20.

We must have a special gift mate!
UTV!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: CastleValeMassiv on November 24, 2013, 09:56:32 PM
Hello dears,

Thought I'd pop in to see how you are all getting along.

Quick question, has Randy got any money left after his missus scuppered him for it? Just thinking that might be the usual tactic of a missus who's chap tends to sway to the Burgundy and Cyan - don't blame her either.


They know our chairmans marital status. Now that's obsession for you.

The only thing I know about theirs is that he looks like Les, from Vic Reeves Big Night Out, and he doesn't believe in buying footballers.

I know nothing of theirs. I know they had some chap that went onto the England set up. To be honest I don't know too many of their players either

That is just bloody embarrassing pal. I'd keep that to yourself. No wonder we get a bad name off other fans.  ::)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: KevinGage on November 24, 2013, 10:01:51 PM
I'd have to agree with Lambert and Payne, I'm afraid. 

Their players -like their club in fact- are all just a bit, meh.

What is the point of WBA.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on November 24, 2013, 10:38:41 PM
Just to get you in the mood:

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave on November 24, 2013, 10:47:57 PM
I'd have to agree with Lambert and Payne, I'm afraid. 

Their players -like their club in fact- are all just a bit, meh.
The casual football fan in that position would probably struggle beyond Benteke and Agbonlahor for us.

The unfortunate difference is that the causal fan not being able to name half the Albion team is par for the course for the last thirty years, whereas it's odd for us to be in that position.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 24, 2013, 11:36:58 PM

What is the point of WBA.

The same as the point of us and every other club.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 25, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
Is Gabby fit?
Can't comment as he is wrong sex for me!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on November 25, 2013, 12:04:27 AM
Just been to the weigh in at the pub.

My questioning of the leniency of Dowd towards fouls in the Merseyside Derby compared to what might happen tomorrow night was deemed to be me "getting my excuses in early", we were were lucky when we won the European Cup and I really hate Sandwell apparently despite the fact that I will watch the game with many of their fans tomorrow. One said that he wouldn't hang about if they got beat, I said I would if we did.

If we were playing Small Heath I wouldn't sleep tonight.

Exactly my feelings.

Must be a south Brum thing but, compared to Small Heath, I genuinely could not give one tenth of one single shit about Albion.

I actually think Albion are a much bugger club than Small Heath, they're just utterly irrelevant to me.

Like, say, West Ham or Southampton.

They don't matter.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: mobythevillan on November 25, 2013, 12:09:06 AM

Oh yes.

Was it just me singing 'f**k off West Brom' at 1:01?

Mobes

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on November 25, 2013, 12:19:26 AM
I'm taking it that this derby won't have opposing fans sitting side by side like the Merseyside one....
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on November 25, 2013, 01:20:20 AM
Where are people meeting for pre match piss up?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 25, 2013, 07:55:38 AM
Oh I do like to be beside the seaside...
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 25, 2013, 08:00:22 AM
I am heading to the Ads for about 4/5. There is nowhere around the ground to drink. Sat in a hotel in Liverpool doing a speed awareness course, before safely driving down to Brum.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 25, 2013, 08:28:56 AM
I am heading to the Ads for about 4/5. There is nowhere around the ground to drink. Sat in a hotel in Liverpool doing a speed awareness course, before safely driving down to Brum.

I've been on one of those, £90 and all that, for doing 32 in a 30 mile zone (I'm not complaining for one second by the way!). It certainly abused me of my stereotype that everyone breaking the speed limit is a BMW driver like me or a white van man. I was sat next to two of the poshest old dears you could ever wish to meet!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on November 25, 2013, 08:32:35 AM
Well I have popped into work early so I can depart early and take in a couple of pints.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Clampy on November 25, 2013, 08:51:11 AM

If we were playing Small Heath I wouldn't sleep tonight.

I got text at 7.55 this morning off a mate who said he'd hardly slept. He hates them with a passion.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: manic-road on November 25, 2013, 08:54:12 AM
I reckon it will be 1-1 Benteke
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 25, 2013, 09:02:10 AM
Usual run round Chichester tonight for me, pop home for a quick bath, and then back into town to watch it with a drink and a meal in the pub. Unlike Spurs a couple of weeks back, at least I won't have to put up with any tossers' condescending comments about my club. In fact, I suspect I may well be the only person watching it at all which is great in my book (just in case we do lose as I can slope off unnoticed rather than feeling like decking some gobby opposition fan who has been irritating the life out of me the whole evening!)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 25, 2013, 09:07:56 AM
woke at 4.50am and watched this seasons Villa goals with a cuppa.
3-1 Villa, Bacuna with a screamer of a free kick, Benteke with a blistering header and Benteke with a power shot from just inside the box.
Bring it on, really looking forward to tonight's game even if i am only watching it on the telly.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 25, 2013, 09:13:09 AM
Just one thought about this 'pride of the Midlands' rhubarb...does it only apply if they win tonight? What happens if we win at Villa Park? Do we get to wear a sash or something?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2013, 09:21:36 AM

If we were playing Small Heath I wouldn't sleep tonight.

I got text at 7.55 this morning off a mate who said he'd hardly slept. He hates them with a passion.

Was it mr w ?
Blues to me is a huge game with the build up to match - Albion are nothing more than a game against stoke or southampton to me - just another poxy little club.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 25, 2013, 09:48:02 AM
Pride of the midlands bollocks aside, and ignoring silly geographic arguments, this is the oldest local derby in the world, surely?

We played the Albion in 3 FA Cup finals before Man United even existed. Historically, this is as big a it gets for Villa and Albion.

Imagine Sky wanking themselves up into frenzy if Manchester, Liverpool or London had 2 local rivals going back as far as us and FC Smerrick?

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2013, 10:14:25 AM
Pride of the midlands bollocks aside, and ignoring silly geographic arguments, this is the oldest local derby in the world, surely?

We played the Albion in 3 FA Cup finals before Man United even existed. Historically, this is as big a it gets for Villa and Albion.

Imagine Sky wanking themselves up into frenzy if Manchester, Liverpool or London had 2 local rivals going back as far as us and FC Smerrick?



I don't think sky could or would give a toss about anything that happened before 1992.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 25, 2013, 10:14:40 AM
The only way Sky will pay any attention Chico to this derby, would be if the same happens as what happened atnthe Sty or B6 10 years ago when they must have been shocked by what they unleashed with their evening kick offs.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 25, 2013, 10:31:30 AM
Just been to the weigh in at the pub.

My questioning of the leniency of Dowd towards fouls in the Merseyside Derby compared to what might happen tomorrow night was deemed to be me "getting my excuses in early", we were were lucky when we won the European Cup and I really hate Sandwell apparently despite the fact that I will watch the game with many of their fans tomorrow. One said that he wouldn't hang about if they got beat, I said I would if we did.

If we were playing Small Heath I wouldn't sleep tonight.

Exactly my feelings.

Must be a south Brum thing but, compared to Small Heath, I genuinely could not give one tenth of one single shit about Albion.

I actually think Albion are a much bugger club than Small Heath, they're just utterly irrelevant to me.



Freudian slip?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 25, 2013, 11:23:08 AM
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Albion are a decent small to medium size club who have done well to stay in the top flight for mor than a season this time around. However to think they are our rivals is just plain silly. They have never been never will be. Let them enjoy  any little bit of glory that comes their way such as the historic will at Villa park a couple of sesons ago. They are harmless really!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on November 25, 2013, 11:25:31 AM
Pride of the midlands bollocks aside, and ignoring silly geographic arguments, this is the oldest local derby in the world, surely?

We played the Albion in 3 FA Cup finals before Man United even existed. Historically, this is as big a it gets for Villa and Albion.

Imagine Sky wanking themselves up into frenzy if Manchester, Liverpool or London had 2 local rivals going back as far as us and FC Smerrick?



I don't think sky could or would give a toss about anything that happened before 1992.


They were bigging up yesterday's game by billing it as Manchester United's first ever visit to the Cardiff City Stadium. As that will apply to a number of other clubs I look forward to them all being hyped equally dramatically.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 25, 2013, 11:36:09 AM
call me ignorant but why are my tesco bags mates keep calling villa , the seals ?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Chico Hamilton III on November 25, 2013, 11:45:10 AM
call me ignorant but why are my tesco bags mates keep calling villa , the seals ?

It originates from a side splitting slice of comedy observation of Villa fans in the Trinity.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on November 25, 2013, 11:51:03 AM
In the 'old' days our fans in The Trinity used to help out with the atmosphere by clapping and stamping their feet.. (as seals do). I personally used to enjoy The Trinity getting stuck in.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on November 25, 2013, 11:54:17 AM
Pride of the midlands bollocks aside, and ignoring silly geographic arguments, this is the oldest local derby in the world, surely?

We played the Albion in 3 FA Cup finals before Man United even existed. Historically, this is as big a it gets for Villa and Albion.

Imagine Sky wanking themselves up into frenzy if Manchester, Liverpool or London had 2 local rivals going back as far as us and FC Smerrick?



I don't think sky could or would give a toss about anything that happened before 1992.

So, given your remarks about Albion being irrelevant, you reckon we should be thinking more like Sky?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on November 25, 2013, 11:56:35 AM
call me ignorant but why are my tesco bags mates keep calling villa , the seals ?

It's because in the late 1800s a seal strayed into the canal network and ended up somewhere in West Bromwich. Some Albion fans saw it and, having never strayed beyond Smethwick, thought it was a Villa spy. They mistook its vocalisations for the English language, which none of them could speak, so they put it on trial, found it guilty and hanged it in the town square.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on November 25, 2013, 11:56:41 AM
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Albion are a decent small to medium size club who have done well to stay in the top flight for mor than a season this time around. However to think they are our rivals is just plain silly. They have never been never will be.

I would say in the late 70s/early 80s they were.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2013, 11:58:07 AM
call me ignorant but why are my tesco bags mates keep calling villa , the seals ?

It's because in the late 1800s a seal strayed into the canal network and ended up somewhere in West Bromwich. Some Albion fans saw it and, having never strayed beyond Smethwick, thought it was a Villa spy. They mistook its vocalisations for the English language, which none of them could speak, so they put it on trial, found it guilty and hanged it in the town square.

This is not hartlepool , although easy to confuse them with Albion :)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2013, 12:00:38 PM
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Albion are a decent small to medium size club who have done well to stay in the top flight for mor than a season this time around. However to think they are our rivals is just plain silly. They have never been never will be.

I would say in the late 70s/early 80s they were.

Do we have to go into all this again? For the majority of our existence they were our main rivals. It is, as we say twice a year, the oldest league derby in the world. No other club has had such an effect on our history as they have.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Dave Cooper please on November 25, 2013, 12:05:54 PM
In the 'old' days our fans in The Trinity used to help out with the atmosphere by clapping and stamping their feet.. (as seals do). I personally used to enjoy The Trinity getting stuck in.

Do seals have feet?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PGW on November 25, 2013, 12:09:59 PM
call me ignorant but why are my tesco bags mates keep calling villa , the seals ?

It's because in the late 1800s a seal strayed into the canal network and ended up somewhere in West Bromwich. Some Albion fans saw it and, having never strayed beyond Smethwick, thought it was a Villa spy. They mistook its vocalisations for the English language, which none of them could speak, so they put it on trial, found it guilty and hanged it in the town square.
Jimbo so brilliant.....if only it were true. Made me smile that has!!!!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: not3bad on November 25, 2013, 12:15:21 PM
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Albion are a decent small to medium size club who have done well to stay in the top flight for mor than a season this time around. However to think they are our rivals is just plain silly. They have never been never will be.

I would say in the late 70s/early 80s they were.

Do we have to go into all this again? For the majority of our existence they were our main rivals. It is, as we say twice a year, the oldest league derby in the world. No other club has had such an effect on our history as they have.

I was more thinking during my lifetime.  Since the early 80s both Albion and Blues have declined somewhat (so, obviously, have Villa, but not so much as those two).
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2013, 12:20:50 PM
I really don't see what the fuss is all about. Albion are a decent small to medium size club who have done well to stay in the top flight for mor than a season this time around. However to think they are our rivals is just plain silly. They have never been never will be.

I would say in the late 70s/early 80s they were.

Do we have to go into all this again? For the majority of our existence they were our main rivals. It is, as we say twice a year, the oldest league derby in the world. No other club has had such an effect on our history as they have.

I was more thinking during my lifetime.  Since the early 80s both Albion and Blues have declined somewhat (so, obviously, have Villa, but not so much as those two).

I know you what you meant - I was replying to the comment that they've never been our rivals.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Hoppo on November 25, 2013, 12:41:31 PM
They don't have feet but flippers with claws on they make as much noise as feet when stamped.. Im off to The Lord Clifden if anyone fancies a Pre match pint. 'come on you lions'..
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2013, 12:46:41 PM
They don't have feet but flippers with claws on they make as much noise as feet when stamped.. Im off to The Lord Clifden if anyone fancies a Pre match pint. 'come on you lions'..

Are you in the chair hoppo?
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on November 25, 2013, 12:56:24 PM
http://www.skysports.com/fun_games/missingmen

2-1 win from 2008 - took me 90 seconds, mostly trying to get one of the centre-backs.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: andrew08 on November 25, 2013, 01:04:22 PM
It nervy day for those of us this side of town: I live closer to the Hawthorns than Villa Park.
The rivalry for me had pretty much gone with their demise really and had been overtaken by the early part of the century fixtures against blues. The first game against them a couple of years ago, I walked through their car park with my nipper and purchased a coffee from a concession and helped myself to milk from a proper jug and thought to myself how far removed is this from the stone dodging we have to do on Cattell Road every time we go there.

But now they're getting a little cocky with this 'we know who we are' nonsense, and need to be put down a peg or to. We know eventually, like blues and wolves, they will go down... Let's start the process tonight
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on November 25, 2013, 01:05:30 PM
In the 'old' days our fans in The Trinity used to help out with the atmosphere by clapping and stamping their feet.. (as seals do). I personally used to enjoy The Trinity getting stuck in.

Do seals have feet?

Navy seals do.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Ads on November 25, 2013, 01:12:30 PM
So not only are we the biggest club in the Midlands, we also killed bin Laden.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: LeeB on November 25, 2013, 01:20:18 PM
So not only are we the biggest club in the Midlands, we also killed bin Laden.

Fuck yeah!
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on November 25, 2013, 01:20:57 PM
@WSC_magazine: West Brom v Aston Villa is a traditional rivalry glossed over nationally and stuck in Sky's "graveyard" slot http://t.co/xzkAimQKvx
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: WarszaVillan on November 25, 2013, 01:29:22 PM
As a kid growing up in south Brum it was never as significant as the Blues game because there were hardly any Albion fans at school - far more Liverpool and Forest fans at the time. Saying that the atmosphere at the games was always full on and there were some cracking matches. I don't think I've ever celebrated a goal like's Withies's after he lobbed in Batson's back pass.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bobdylan on November 25, 2013, 01:51:03 PM
Tommy Hitz's winner was well celebrated too, a great moment to be on the Holte.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: bobdylan on November 25, 2013, 03:26:29 PM
As a kid growing up in south Brum it was never as significant as the Blues game because there were hardly any Albion fans at school - far more Liverpool and Forest fans at the time. Saying that the atmosphere at the games was always full on and there were some cracking matches. I don't think I've ever celebrated a goal like's Withies's after he lobbed in Batson's back pass.

Likewise I've lived/schooled/worked etc. in Solihull/Cov/Warks for the last 30 years and never met a Baggy in all that time, the only one I've ever met was at uni in Wales.  Plenty of Villa, Blues, Cov, Wolves, Man U, Liverpool etc etc etc, so it's never really registered on my radar as a grudge match.  Still i appreciate the history of the fixture and I look forward to it more than the Small Heath game which I dread.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 25, 2013, 03:56:51 PM
Despite growing up and living in the Black Country for the best part of 32 years, i didn't know a Bitter until they got promoted. Still don't, if i'm being truthful, because most of them I do know are Facebook friends and didn't follow Albion in the years I knew them.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Smirker on November 25, 2013, 04:28:01 PM
We will win. It will be 4-0 to Villa.

Thanks.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on November 25, 2013, 04:29:27 PM
Annoyed that Billy Jones is out injured, he's their worst player.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2013, 04:38:49 PM
As a kid growing up in south Brum it was never as significant as the Blues game because there were hardly any Albion fans at school - far more Liverpool and Forest fans at the time. Saying that the atmosphere at the games was always full on and there were some cracking matches. I don't think I've ever celebrated a goal like's Withies's after he lobbed in Batson's back pass.

Likewise I've lived/schooled/worked etc. in Solihull/Cov/Warks for the last 30 years and never met a Baggy in all that time, the only one I've ever met was at uni in Wales.  Plenty of Villa, Blues, Cov, Wolves, Man U, Liverpool etc etc etc, so it's never really registered on my radar as a grudge match.  Still i appreciate the history of the fixture and I look forward to it more than the Small Heath game which I dread.

I met one when I was working in printing in the late 80s - was a nice enough bloke and even dropped me off near villa park one Saturday afternoon when I worked till 2 - miles out of his way !

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: olaftab on November 25, 2013, 04:41:40 PM
Leaving for the Thornbush shortly. I really can not see any other result than a win for us.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on November 25, 2013, 04:50:42 PM
call me ignorant but why are my tesco bags mates keep calling villa , the seals ?

Truth is, they don't know why they call us the seals!

It is because of the Trinity rumble in the 70s and 80s. Clapping like seals...just like they chant villa in a high pitched voice because of a game where tickets were given to local school kids who got behind the team by chanting villa incessantly in pre-pubic voices.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on November 25, 2013, 05:07:21 PM
I rather like the seals jibe. It is original you have to give them that.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Richard E on November 25, 2013, 05:10:23 PM
Its only original because no one has else has ever been stupid enough to think of such an unfunny jibe before. The fact that over several pages no-one here can actually explain why they think we are "seals" shows how un-cutting edge it is. 
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on November 25, 2013, 05:22:06 PM
The Seals thing perfectly defines the current rivalry. Most heated amongst those of a certain age (mid 40s I guess and older) who remember the days of 70s and 80s when our rivalry was at it's peak...and the new ones (from their side) who know what they are...and copy the jibes of their elders (but don't know why).
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: eastie on November 25, 2013, 05:22:27 PM
@AntoniiioLuna: today is a special day today play Villa,come on Villa come on to win/es1día especial hoy juega el Villa!#VamosVilla http://t.co/0RrXML6VAF
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on November 25, 2013, 05:24:14 PM
Its only original because no one has else has ever been stupid enough to think of such an unfunny jibe before. The fact that over several pages no-one here can actually explain why they think we are "seals" shows how un-cutting edge it is. 

The stand in question was knocked down 13 years ago. News travels fast in Smethwick.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on November 25, 2013, 05:25:49 PM
Seals is witty...just like we are witty for referring to them as "dirty c**ts" for breaking Alex Cropley's leg.

As a 40-something from Smethwick I want us to win this match more than any other each season...but I fear we won't.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: l_mckay on November 25, 2013, 05:30:00 PM
Come on villa! 2-1 win I think Benteke scoring late on to win the game
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: waynejames on November 25, 2013, 05:34:36 PM
On a Chelsea forum a few years back they said that 'six thousand seals were decending on Stamford bridge to the carling cup game'
We are well known you know!
2-1 Villa Win
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 25, 2013, 05:41:30 PM
3-1 Villa. Them stripey's can go and f..k right off. Tara stripey filth.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on November 25, 2013, 05:52:02 PM
Off to watch..sorry Vatch..Vest Bromwitch Albyon and Ah-stone Vee-laah..
down the local, The Flying Horse..ref to Pegasus I assume.. Only match on so likely they will show without demur. end of season and that and they only care about their sh*te..
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: danlanza on November 25, 2013, 05:57:57 PM
Legion, get the post match thread ready, there's a good chap ;)
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on November 25, 2013, 06:13:27 PM
home from work

butterflies

Come on Villa 

Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: Legion on November 25, 2013, 06:17:11 PM
Nervous as fcuk.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: curiousorange on November 25, 2013, 06:24:17 PM
Nervous as fcuk.

Me too. But then I change to the Worcester train at Smethwick in a bit and i'm wearing a Villa scarf.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: walsall villain on November 25, 2013, 06:44:10 PM
Me too, in with their lot so must try and behave.
Title: Re: WBA v Aston Villa Pre-Match Thread
Post by: richard moore on November 25, 2013, 06:59:29 PM
Back from run, quick shower and back out to the pub! Seasoned contributors to the match thread know I should be out in the garden for this one tending clematis as that always brings us luck but it's a bit dark and cold for that. Be warned, I can't remember the last time I saw us win when watching it in a pub...
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