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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on May 01, 2013, 10:24:57 AM
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Carrow Road, 4th May 2013
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Snodgrass, Delph, Benteke.
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We win.
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Confidence is high and Norwich are poor...I can't remember the last time I actually predicted an away win!
Am I right in saying that both Turner and Bassong will be missing for them in defence?
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Very confident about this, but annoyed that even if we win we'll still be having to keep an eye out for other results.
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A bazillion - 1 to us, hat-tricks all round, even Brad weighing in with a penalty.
I really need to come down from Monday
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1-3 to us. Fancy Delph to bag one for some reason. The others being Benteke and N'Zog on as a sub.
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Draw, since when have Villa ever allowed us to relax.
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Need to keep the momentum up and win this game, then I'll be really confident of survival.
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3-1 villa win, Norwich are off the pace and look poor , lambert will know how to exploit them and with our confidence sky high we will go there and win , I've gone for 3-1 but wouldn't surprised if we got 4 or 5.
I really think Norwich are in freefall and could well drop.
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
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Them: Fuckall Us: As many as we want.
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
Understandably, I think I can smell the faint whiff of over confidence.
I trust Lambert has the team's feet on the ground.
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Last time I felt this confident we had just beaten Liverpool at Anfield. then ...
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
Understandably, I think I can smell the faint whiff of over confidence.
I trust Lambert has the team's feet on the ground.
Lambert doesn't strike me as the kind of manager who will let them get overconfident.
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As brilliant as Monday night was, it will have the shine taken off it if we lose at Norwich.
We need to make the Sunderland result really count by avoiding defeat.
That said, I think we are absolutely bursting with confidence and will go there and win comfortably.
Of course, we won't keep a clean sheet, but we will outplay and outscore them.
1-3 to Villa
We're taking the piss, we're Aston Villa, we're taking the piss !!
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As I said in the relegation thread, we're going to keep a clean sheet this weekend. We have to get one before the end of the season, and it's coming on Saturday.
0-2 (Benteke, Sylla)
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
I was just about to say the same! I'm usually a worrier when it comes to predicting results but for this one I'm extremely confident of 3 points. You'll all be pleased to know that the last time I felt like this was Stoke away.
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4-0 Villa with Benteke getting another hatrick and Gabby for 1 as well. We are going to win all of our remaining games.
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looking forward to this, sun, nice beers, chatty locals, a win, a clean sheet, Wigan, Newcastle and Sunderland all losing....
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The Doc
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
I was just about to say the same! I'm usually a worrier when it comes to predicting results but for this one I'm extremely confident of 3 points. You'll all be pleased to know that the last time I felt like this was Stoke away.
Me too - i was supremely confident at stoke and feel the same about this - looking like a nice bank holiday weekend with many making the trip to Yarmouth after the game - unfortunately I'm working for the next 5 days until Tuesday but will be home in time for kick off - enjoy your weekend all and lets hope that we take a massive step to safety!
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Just under 100 tickets elft.
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looking forward to this, sun, nice beers, chatty locals, a win, a clean sheet, Wigan, Newcastle and Sunderland all losing....
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The Doc
Good point.
We have had a couple of weeks where the vast majority of other results have gone against us.
We need the 'perfect storm' this weekend of Norwich, Sunderland, Newcastle and Wigan all losing.
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Draw.
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2 nil away win
A Gabby brace and a much neede clean sheet
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Last time I felt this confident we had just beaten Liverpool at Anfield. then ...
Norwich aren't chelsea though, but we might fail to beat them as we failed to beat Fulham.
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Draw, since when have Villa ever allowed us to relax.
Yep
1-1 - They score early, we have frustrating amount of missed chances and Darren Bent to get the equaliser late on.
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The Canaries are Toast.
Let's put them to the Sword.
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This is our big opportunity. Our last 4 wins have been against teams around us. if we can keep that record up for the Norwich game then we'll be all but safe.
But, we're Aston Villa. We don't do it easy.
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Win this and I think we're safe. Lets not get too cocky though.
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Just as we had to put the negatives from the defeat against Man United out of our minds, we can't get carried away about the positives from Monday. Yes, we were fantastic, but each game is different. Norwich also have their survival to play for, plus the added incentive of their old manager returning. We'll be buoyed by the Sunderland demolition, but I worry about hubris and complacency conspiring to undo our good work - it's happened a number of times before during matches and notably after the win at Anfield. We know we'll probably concede, but can we keep up our scoring record? I'm not so sure, so I'm going for 1:1.
Thankfully, the Villa proved me wrong on Monday. I hope they do again.
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Draw, since when have Villa ever allowed us to relax.
What Mr Black said
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I think we do need to win this, but knowing Villa we won't.
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I can sense a draw coming!
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No pressure - but this is a must win game, and the way things are panning out at the bottom I think it will be a minimum of 40 pts to be safe this season!
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1-1 N'Zogbia, Delph (OG)
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2-2
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1-2. Fleck for them, Leighton Phillips and Derek Dougan for us.
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If we can avoid any Derek Mountfield own goals we should be ok!
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Villa win 2-1.
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I bet everyone of their fans would take a draw now if offered it. It wouldn't be too bad for us either but I can't see anything other than a Villa victory if we approach the game as we did Monday night.
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The Canaries are Toast.
We'll butter them.....1-4.
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We'll batter them 3-1 I reckon, to all but ensure our survival.
Wouldn't be surprised if we won all three of our remaining games, such is our confidence and the way we've been playing recently - every place up the league we finish is worth money so lets keep on bashing away and get back towards where we belong.
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Feels good being a villa fan again doesn't it?
I think we will get a comfortable win, 3-1. You can sense that we are back and our players will feel an inch taller after their dazzling display the other night.
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Draw wouldn't be a terrible result. If Albion win this weekend then Wigan have to win 3 out of 3 including Arsenal away. We could make ourselves safe on Saturday mathematically and I think we will.
0-2 Villa, Benteke and Gabby with the goals, one in each half
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I think we play better away from home as we are so good on the counter attack at the moment.
1-3 Benteke x2 and Gabby
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I'm looking forward to this one. We need to follow up Monday night with another win and put some distance between us and Wigan. Might give the Compleat Angler a miss this year though, the beer was woeful last season.
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I didnt realise sunderland v stoke had been moved to Monday night - good chance to climb maybe 3 places this weekend.
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I'm looking forward to this one. We need to follow up Monday night with another win and put some distance between us and Wigan. Might give the Compleat Angler a miss this year though, the beer was woeful last season.
Are you heading to Yarmouth for the weekend clampy or heading home?
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I'm looking forward to this one. We need to follow up Monday night with another win and put some distance between us and Wigan. Might give the Compleat Angler a miss this year though, the beer was woeful last season.
Are you heading to Yarmouth for the weekend clampy or heading home?
It's just a day job this time. We did Yarmouth last year.
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I'm looking forward to this one. We need to follow up Monday night with another win and put some distance between us and Wigan. Might give the Compleat Angler a miss this year though, the beer was woeful last season.
Are you heading to Yarmouth for the weekend clampy or heading home?
It's just a day job this time. We did Yarmouth last year.
Should still be a good day out - i remember sitting in a beer garden before a game on the outskirts in the sun in the brian little era around this time of year - lovely pints too but can't remember if it was old speckled hen or abbots ale .
Had a look on a Norwich forum and the fans seem to think hughton is very negative - lambert is still popular and many wish he was still there.
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I kept my feet on the ground and went for a draw. But we are due a clean sheet and only Sunderland and QPR have scored less than Norwich at home. Add that to the fact we usually look good for a goal or two and we look capable of a win.
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A win would take the pressure off completely and pile it onto Wigan for the remaining fixtures. Would love to see Benteke get to the magic 20 league goals.
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For me, the situation now is exactly like it was with the Fulham game after the win against Stoke.
Win by a few goals and we'll be virtually safe, draw and we'll be kicking ourselves big time, lose and we'll be right back in the thick of it.
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There's one element not mentioned so far - Lambert will be back to his old club still angry at their behaviour.
He will sorely want to put Norwich to the sword, if not for the players but for his own satisfaction of sticking it to his chairman.
1-3.
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For me, the situation now is exactly like it was with the Fulham game after the win against Stoke.
Win by a few goals and we'll be virtually safe, draw and we'll be kicking ourselves big time, lose and we'll be right back in the thick of it.
Depends on Wigan's result. Draw and they lose, then we've got a 6 point lead and they have one less game to close that gap.
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I think we need to win if we are going to avoid a last day drama.
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i think the Lambert going back bit is being over-stated. The media seem to have forgotten he already did that in the league Cup and got it out of his system with a 4-1 win. A repeat will go down very nicely thank-you!
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We can score goals and they can't so another good performance and another win I think 2-1 villa! Benteke and weinmann scoring
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I have surprised myself by buying a ticket on a whim. All top tips about parking and pubs would be welcome. UTV.
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2-2 draw for me
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I have surprised myself by buying a ticket on a whim. All top tips about parking and pubs would be welcome. UTV.
when we went to the cup game last year we parked at the County Hall(just off the by-pass) and walked there,not far at all and I believe just a short walk into town for alehouses too.
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the Doc
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A bazillion - 1 to us, hat-tricks all round, even Brad weighing in with a penalty.
I really need to come down from Monday
Many years ago when we were promoted into the old First Division every player had scored except Jimmy Coombes, the goalkeeper.
Rumour has it that the plan was if we were awarded a penalty Jim would have taken it.
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0-2 away win
Benteke 16
Weimann 33
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If I remember correctly, we WERE awarded a penalty in the last game in the 3rd Division (v Chesterfield), but as it was 0-0 at the time, the captain and usual penalty-taker, Ian Ross took it. We won 1-0.
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1-1 Draw for me with Benteke scoring.
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Norwich City 1 Aston Villa 5 8)
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In typical Villa fashion it wouldn't surprise me if this ended up 0-0 after monday night.
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Same team as Monday night for me and I think we'll win this one. An early goal for us will put a lot of pressure on them.
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Paul Comben, try the Fat Cat in the town for a proper beer.
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Win this and the party can start, Chelsea will be put to the sword and Wigan will just hate us having a party at their expense
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If I remember correctly, we WERE awarded a penalty in the last game in the 3rd Division (v Chesterfield), but as it was 0-0 at the time, the captain and usual penalty-taker, Ian Ross took it. We won 1-0.
Must have been an earlier game, Ian Ross scored from open play against Chesterfield. Side foot half volley over the keep from the corner of the penalty area.
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A few facts to consider...
Villa in good form and high on confidence
Norwich in poor form and low on confidence
Norwich cant score but Villa cant defend
Villa can score and Norwich have defenders out injured (?)
Paul Lambert will want to win against his old club
His old club will want to beat Paul Lambert
...we've already beaten them 4-1 at Carrow Rd this season so no reason why it cant be repeated...I just hope we dont get complacent or over confident after one really good result against Sunderland.
Norwich 1-4 Villa
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I have surprised myself by buying a ticket on a whim. All top tips about parking and pubs would be welcome. UTV.
when we went to the cup game last year we parked at the County Hall(just off the by-pass) and walked there,not far at all and I believe just a short walk into town for alehouses too.
UTV
the Doc
Many thanks.
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Paul Comben, try the Fat Cat in the town for a proper beer.
Ooh, right up my street, ta.
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I've always been pretty confident about this game and Monday night has only reaffirmed my confidence. This is pretty similar to the Stoke game really. Like Stoke were, Norwich are on bad form. Though they probably have an even more powderpuff attack than Pulis' thugs. Lots of anxiety and unrest amongst the fans who are unhappy with the negative tactics of Hughton. As I said before the Stoke game, if we can get an early goal that will kill any atmosphere being generated by the home fans. We should really be getting a clean-sheet against these but I've given up believing we can get one now (given we couldn't even get one against teams as inept as Stoke and Sunderland). With that in mind, I'll go for 2-1 to us. Weimann brace.
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In typical Villa fashion it wouldn't surprise me if this ended up 0-0 after monday night.
I fear similar. But, the sun is out, the 6-1 has happened, the win would mean end of season strolls in the last 2 games. Surely....
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Travelling up from London for the Norwich game, predicting a 2 -1 Villa win.
Recommendations on good pubs by the ground are welcomed
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There's one element not mentioned so far - Lambert will be back to his old club still angry at their behaviour.
He will sorely want to put Norwich to the sword, if not for the players but for his own satisfaction of sticking it to his chairman.
1-3.
True. Perhaps more importantly, he will know the majority of their side inside out and should therefore know how to exploit their weaknesses.
Keep the same side, especially our Cilla, who adds that bite we've been missing all season, and I reckon we'll be too good for them.
3-1 Villa. Gabby, Andi, Christian to bag the goals.
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Would like to see Sylla score. It would do a lot for his confidence. If we score early they will have to come at us and then we could pick them off on the counter attack. I am going to anticipate our first clean sheet in centuries. 0-2 Gabby-Sylla. Wigan lose and we are safe .......
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I have a bad feeling one of ours might get a red in this one.... still going draw...monday night has made me less confident!
reading theur forums they are polar opposites in opinion, some think they are better than us and will edge it, some are brown pants at our forward line. If their 2 centre backs dont pull through it would help a lot.
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0-10
Hat tricks for Benteke, Weimann and Gabby. Some yokel with an own goal as well.
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0-10
Hat tricks for Benteke, Weimann and Gabby. Some yokel with an own goal as well.
Ah we are screwed if you think we will win!
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After Monday night, as long as Legion's not going I think we'll win. We need to keep him away from all our games, at least at Villa Park.
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0-3
first clean sheet
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After Monday night, as long as Legion's not going I think we'll win. We need to keep him away from all our games, at least at Villa Park.
And Dave has to start the match thread.
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I think we need to win this one, if we're looking to avoid a last day do or die scenario. I'd have taken four points from these games. But we need to be four points clear of Wigan in a couple of games time, and you have to assume they'll get at least one win between now and the end.
Norwich have only lost three times at home, which points to a tense nervy, tight game. But with our goalscoring away form, as long as we don't give away a stupid goal or two, we've a great chance of winning.
If Bassong and / or Turner are out, our chances increase greatly.
I don't think there's any real debate about the side to start though? Must be the same XI surely.
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I don't think I am ready to think about other games yet but, if forced to hazard a guess, I will go for us to win 3-1.
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First clean sheet in ages. 2-0 Benteke and Gabby
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God knows. This team, this manager, I mean, who knows? Unpredictable, but never boring.
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Feels like a draw to me. We should blow them away after the weekend, but they're still in danger themselves, and this is one they probably have targeted as winnable so i doubt they'll be as slack as Suderland were
1-1
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Everyone knows how to play us. Manchester United gave the perfect example: start really aggressively and score a couple while our defence is wobbly.
Whether we get a result depends on baker and Bennett not going all headless chicken.
Would love to think we'd win this one easily but I've been following the Villa too long for that. Would settle for a point.
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It is a tired old cliche but I am thinking one game at a time. However, sometimes you need to project things forward a bit. What if we lose and others win? What if that happens against Chelsea as well? This is what I would be telling the players. This game is like a semi final. Alternatively, treat it like it is the last game of the season. It really is do or die. We must not undo the good work of Monday night.
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It is a tired old cliche but I am thinking one game at a time. However, sometimes you need to project things forward a bit. We must not undo the good work of Monday night.
I know what you mean. I've been taking it one game at a time but before Sunderland i had it in my head that we'd draw against them and beat Norwich. It may end up being the other way round and 4 points out of 6 would'nt be a bad return but bloody hell, what an opportunity help ourselves if we win.
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I wonder how many others on here have spouses that are not interested in football.
My wife thought I was going to have a heart attack watching Sunderland, it must seem totally absurd.
And we go again...
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Everyone knows how to play us. Manchester United gave the perfect example: start really aggressively and score a couple while our defence is wobbly.
Whether we get a result depends on baker and Bennett not going all headless chicken.
Would love to think we'd win this one easily but I've been following the Villa too long for that. Would settle for a point.
good point, however not all teams have the quality to do what yanited do
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In the home fixture the Norwich winger (can't remember his name) gave Bennett a torrid time. He may have progressed a bit since then but he's by no means near the finished article. If you want to get at Villa you target the weakest part of the defence in the same way that ManU did. Of course, on the flip side if you want to target the weakest part of the Norwich defense you get the ball to Benteke, or Gabby or Weimann. They can't double up on all of them.
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It is a tired old cliche but I am thinking one game at a time. However, sometimes you need to project things forward a bit. We must not undo the good work of Monday night.
I know what you mean. I've been taking it one game at a time but before Sunderland i had it in my head that we'd draw against them and beat Norwich. It may end up being the other way round and 4 points out of 6 would'nt be a bad return but bloody hell, what an opportunity help ourselves if we win.
It's a huge opportunity. A win puts us above them, and chalks off yet one more side in our seemingly endless mission to repair the GD damage done at chelski. Come the final mix, three points on Saturday could actually be worth four.
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It would be brilliant to win, because at the very least we'd jump above at least one more team. It would go a long way towards securing our Premier League status.
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In the home fixture the Norwich winger (can't remember his name) gave Bennett a torrid time. He may have progressed a bit since then but he's by no means near the finished article. If you want to get at Villa you target the weakest part of the defence in the same way that ManU did. Of course, on the flip side if you want to target the weakest part of the Norwich defense you get the ball to Benteke, or Gabby or Weimann. They can't double up on all of them.
One of the (many) things that impressed me on Monday was how we dealt with Johnson. Bennett stayed on his feet, jockeyed, held him up until the cavalry (Delph) arrived. I believe he got skinned just the once, and then still got back to recover. I too cannot recall the name of the norwichy bloke, but, should he be deemed of similar threat, I expect he shall receive similar treatment.
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The test for Bennett is how he develops over the coming season. In virtually every game he's played the opposition have focussed on him as a weak point. Psychologically, a player who won't make it at this level would have been dealt a mortal blow after what he's had up against him this year.
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
Understandably, I think I can smell the faint whiff of over confidence.
I trust Lambert has the team's feet on the ground.
Lambert doesn't strike me as the kind of manager who will let them get overconfident.
I think he'll also want to get one over on his old club
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Also they've had one win in 8, Villa all the way
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Also they've had one win in 8, Villa all the way
You going mate?
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The test for Bennett is how he develops over the coming season. In virtually every game he's played the opposition have focussed on him as a weak point. Psychologically, a player who won't make it at this level would have been dealt a mortal blow after what he's had up against him this year.
I was not particularly a fan of Bennett, but I would say that he is the most improved Villa player in 2013 (along with Delph).
Fair play to him for not caving in and for growing into the position.
I hope he goes from strength to strength.
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Bennett has a brilliant left foot, with confidence he could be a quality player for us. I think Lowton and him need a bit of work in the gym over the summer just to help their physicality.
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Last two tickets sold about 11 am this morning.
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Heeeelllllppppp ... I just accidentally voted for a Home win. This could be catastrophic.
My predictions are notoriously crap as I always go for a Villa win but this could be the unluckiest thing I've ever done. If we lose on Saturday it'll all be my fault and we'll get relegated and that'll be my fault as well.
Oh god, what have I done ...
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Bennett and in particular Lowton both had good games against Sunderland. But both are naive as defenders. They are both miles better going forward than at defending so hopefully the positioning and physicality is something they can get quickly.
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It's a strange one, this.
If, before Monday, you'd have said to me "here's four points from Sunderland and Norwich", I'd have taken them.
However, two things are on my mind now. One is that, having done so well against Sunderland, I am thinking maybe we can continue that form for this game, and win. The other is that, if we get a draw from this, we are then left with two matches, Chelsea at home and Wigan away, and both of those matches look horrible. I really, really don't want to go to Wigan needing something, so that effectively leaves Chelsea at home.
All that combines to make this one from which three points would be huge.
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I think the significance or otherwise of the Norwich result won't be known until we see how Wigan do with their game in hand. I do think we'll be safe by the time we get to Wigan, although I'm by no means certain of that, but that's beacuse I expect them to drop points and us to beat a weakened/reserve Chelsea team at home.
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It's a strange one, this.
If, before Monday, you'd have said to me "here's four points from Sunderland and Norwich", I'd have taken them.
However, two things are on my mind now. One is that, having done so well against Sunderland, I am thinking maybe we can continue that form for this game, and win. The other is that, if we get a draw from this, we are then left with two matches, Chelsea at home and Wigan away, and both of those matches look horrible. I really, really don't want to go to Wigan needing something, so that effectively leaves Chelsea at home.
All that combines to make this one from which three points would be huge.
I really fancy us to win on Saturday. If we do, that'll make us all but safe and plant Norwich firmly in the shit.
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slaps Chrisf..... get a grip man, get a grip!
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I think we need another 4 points to make sure without having to rely on Wigan helping us out by dropping points. For my healths sake I hope we can get 3 of them at Norwich rather than having to do it on the last day.
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3 will do us. We'll get them on Saturday, comfortably.
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It's a strange one, this.
If, before Monday, you'd have said to me "here's four points from Sunderland and Norwich", I'd have taken them.
However, two things are on my mind now. One is that, having done so well against Sunderland, I am thinking maybe we can continue that form for this game, and win. The other is that, if we get a draw from this, we are then left with two matches, Chelsea at home and Wigan away, and both of those matches look horrible. I really, really don't want to go to Wigan needing something, so that effectively leaves Chelsea at home.
All that combines to make this one from which three points would be huge.
I really fancy us to win on Saturday. If we do, that'll make us all but safe and plant Norwich firmly in the shit.
I also think it's really important to win this Saturday to ease the pressure on the final two games. If we win at Norwich I could see us taking points in final two games, but if we lose I'll be getting a bit edgy again.
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Money has been going on us to win. Only 2.1 to win.
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It's a strange one, this.
If, before Monday, you'd have said to me "here's four points from Sunderland and Norwich", I'd have taken them.
However, two things are on my mind now. One is that, having done so well against Sunderland, I am thinking maybe we can continue that form for this game, and win. The other is that, if we get a draw from this, we are then left with two matches, Chelsea at home and Wigan away, and both of those matches look horrible. I really, really don't want to go to Wigan needing something, so that effectively leaves Chelsea at home.
All that combines to make this one from which three points would be huge.
Which I would guess Lambert is thinking as well.No time to dwell on Mondays result and I don't think we will Villa win and WBA to do us a favour with Wigan and thats us practically safe
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Norwich are there for the taking, a lot of their fans fans want the manager out, they offer little goal threat and now look like they could have a couple of key players out. If we go at them with the same focus as Monday night, battle every ball in midfield, we'll be too much for them. A half arsed performance like the Fulham game where we lacked any urgency and we'll probably only get a point, if that.
I get the feeling this team want to show the world just how good they can be so I'm going for a convincing Villa win.
4-0 Villa including Delph scoring a rocket from 25 yards. The confidence is there.
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
Understandably, I think I can smell the faint whiff of over confidence.
I trust Lambert has the team's feet on the ground.
I hope Lambert hasn't got the team's feet on the ground.
Well not this particular member anyway.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/30/article-2317155-198C0AA3000005DC-335_634x390.jpg)
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That photo really is extraordinary.
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Norwich are there for the taking, a lot of their fans fans want the manager out, they offer little goal threat and now look like they could have a couple of key players out. If we go at them with the same focus as Monday night, battle every ball in midfield, we'll be too much for them. A half arsed performance like the Fulham game where we lacked any urgency and we'll probably only get a point, if that.
I get the feeling this team want to show the world just how good they can be so I'm going for a convincing Villa win.
4-0 Villa including Delph scoring a rocket from 25 yards. The confidence is there.
I hope you're right Mark.
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I don't think our performance against Fulham was half-arsed at all. We just weren't as fluid and came up against a team far more comfortable in possession than Sunderland.
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I don't think our performance against Fulham was half-arsed at all. We just weren't as fluid and came up against a team far more comfortable in possession than Sunderland.
We gave them far too much space, backed off, never really challenged for the 50-50's, basically it was like we were already on holiday. I'd call that half-arsed.
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We've played far worse than Fulham this season. I think it was decent, just not quite 'on it' as we were the previous game against Stoke. That having been said, it took an own goal and Delph missing a sitter for us not to win it. I think it was one of those games that in the middle of a bad run has you fuming, but in the middle of a good run you live with.
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dp
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Agreed, John. As you say, we weren't quite "on it" which when you consider our league position at the time, is inexcusable. I think more than anything, we really missed Gabby that day. The man brings so much more to the team than just goals, despite some that use it as his only measuring stick.
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I don't think our performance against Fulham was half-arsed at all. We just weren't as fluid and came up against a team far more comfortable in possession than Sunderland.
We gave them far too much space, backed off, never really challenged for the 50-50's, basically it was like we were already on holiday. I'd call that half-arsed.
Nah, we kept going til the end but invariably made the bad decision (Delph skying it, Benteke hitting the side-netting instead of squaring it for Bent). Had either of those gone in everyone would be saying how plucky, dogged and deserved a win it was.
We weren't any better against Sunderland until we went 2-1 up, for much of the first half we were jittery. Scorelines can often hide the whole truth.
Edit - You're probably right about us missing Gabby. Zog got the goal and looked dangerous periodically but he's the only player imo that "half-arsed" can be applied to.
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Agreed, John. As you say, we weren't quite "on it" which when you consider our league position at the time, is inexcusable. I think more than anything, we really missed Gabby that day. The man brings so much more to the team than just goals, despite some that use it as his only measuring stick.
People tend to forget that football game can shift from one to another by the small things; Defender intercepts diagonal cross-ball and starts counter attack, gives great assist to the striker who then puts back to the net with his second touch, or ball takes small ricochet from the defender's back and goalie has to scramble it in front of the striker who then puts it into the empty net.
On another day we would've won Fulham if ball would've bounced from Delph's head differently. It's the small things.
We just have to hope that our players are up for a real fight against Norwich and ball bounces for our favour.
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Eamonn, the big difference between the Fulham game and Sunderland was how much more 'we wanted it'. If by "jittery" you mean the early part in the game where we battled for midfield, I'll give you that, it happens in most open games where two sides go for it. The fact is we got right in Sunderland's face, we never gave them an inch and eventually they surrendered. Against Fulham we played like we didn't have a care in the world, there was no conviction to our efforts, it was far too casual for my liking.
Saturday we need a repeat of the combative performance we gave on Monday, show them how much we want it and then we can rely on our attacking strength to do the rest. It'll be tough but we're a tough team when we choose to be.
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I don't think our performance against Fulham was half-arsed at all. We just weren't as fluid and came up against a team far more comfortable in possession than Sunderland.
We gave them far too much space, backed off, never really challenged for the 50-50's, basically it was like we were already on holiday. I'd call that half-arsed.
I don't think the balance was right without Gabby and three central until the second half.
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I don't think any comparisons should be made with the last league game against Norwich. They were a different team then. In the middle of their 10 game unbeaten run which saw them beat the likes of Arsenal and Manure. We were also playing that shoddy 4-2-2-2 formation that gave us no real shape. Norwich now are one of the poorest teams in the division since the turn of the year. We couldn't ask for a better chance to get 3 points.
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The Fulham match was a perfect example of the complacency that sometimes creeps into our game. The performance lacked the drive, concentration and sheer focus on winning that we displayed against Sunderland. Cut that complacency out of our game and we can beat Norwich.
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Norwich have mostly slipped under the media's relegation radar with them taking turns to enjoy the bad runs of ourselves, Sunderland, Newcastle and to a lesser extent Stoke and West Ham. Their recent form or even their form for quite a while has been as poor or poorer than most. Even in the Reading game they started well, went a couple of goals up and then nearly blew it. They remind me of us last season, don't score many but get enough draws to just keep their heads above water.
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Paul Lambert insists he's never wavered in his firm belief about his young lions being able to excel in the Barclays Premier League.
Villa started the season brightly, hit a tough stretch during the festive period before coming into their own over the past few vital months.
Despite the difficult spells, Lambert insists he always retained confidence that his direction was the right path for the club to take.
Asked if he ever had any doubt, he roared: "No. Not once.
"I don't know who I am meant to listen to - you lads?
"I will do my own thing. That's not being stubborn. I have to have a belief that what we are doing is right. That's Ian, Gary and I.
"The lads have been massive for us. We have stuck to the beliefs we have.
"I don't think there are a right way and a wrong way to play football or set your teams up. It's just what you believe in. We have never wavered.
"You have the belief to keep going. You never waver from it.
"I think you can get caught up in things. I think if you don't give someone the opportunity, how do you know? You don't, so you give them an opportunity and they can step up to the plate. They take it themselves. They are the ones who actually play the game.
"All we do is try to give them that bit of confidence that they can go and play at this level. You are seeing a young team getting better and better with every game.
"The lads are hitting top form. That's the pleasing thing. They are growing with it. They are definitely performing, that's for sure. Our form at the moment is very good."
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Paul Lambert on "ferocious" fan support.
Paul Lambert says his players are drawing inspiration from their ferocious fans in this final run-in.
Lambert has long heralded the contribution of supporters in bonding with B6 playing heroes.
And he believes this is happening big-time as the club aim to finish the season on a high.
He described the atmosphere in the wonder win over Sunderland as "extraordinary" and said the fans and players have a "special bond."
He thinks that will continue when Villa visit Norwich.
Lambert said: "Players and supporters are the key band of people at any football club and there is no question that ours are bouncing off each other to positive effect.
"That has been the way throughout the campaign and the team will continue to draw inspiration from the crowd and vice-versa during these final games.
"At the heart of every big performance is an equally massive contribution from the crowd. You need the crowd always.
"The way the lads played on Monday night and the atmosphere, everything, the game, the night...everything was just extraordinary for us.
"We played against a team that had been going well but on that given night, we were exceptional.
"We had to try and win the game which we did do. The bonus was the way we played, the goals we scored and the atmosphere in the stadium was electric.
"One of the biggest things is the crowd with the team. They have a really incredible rapport with each other. When you have that, it stands you in great stead.
"It's a big thing for me - the crowd and team bouncing off each other. It's vital especially with the size of the crowd we have.
"If you have that, then you have a foothold in it. It's about getting the crowd on your side, even in adverse times. They run with it. They see it.
"I think the crowd and the players at the moment have a special thing going. That can take you a long way.
"They will now go down there in their thousands and if they are anything like what they were in the cup game, they will make some noise that's for sure.
"We will take a ferocious support down there."
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Our front three have scored 23 in 15 (stat courtesy of paul_e. It extrapolates to 58 goals over a season!!). We need to focus on the fact that, like spiders, they should be more scared of us than we should of them. A lot more.
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That great now if we can find a goalscoring midfielder like Ian Taylor or David Platt we will be really competitive. I hope we are looking for a playmaker who can score goals and defend well. (Ideally Zidane type)
The confident is high and I can't see anything but a Villa win.
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My thoughts on the Norwich match (with some justified wallowing in the glow of the Sunderland victory) have just been posted. You can find a preview and the link below:
"Had Aston Villa been tasked to play Norwich City straight after the Sunderland demolition, you feel they would have swept them aside too, but as the adrenalin dissipates, it's back to a tough away fixture both sides need to win..."
Read more: http://pickourteam.com/premierleague/news/02-05-2013/confident-villa-need-win-over-norwich-to-be-safe/828676#ixzz2S9ngktgd
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Think this one will be a 1-1 draw. However Im very confident the Baggies will come up trumps against Wigan leaving us six points away from them. Thats a huge ask at this late stage of the season.
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We will win this game.
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The confident is high and I can't see anything but a Villa win.
Careful. There were plenty of comments like this on the Sunderland forums, prior to Monday night (about Sunderland of course)
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We need to win because:
1 - we just do
and
2 - the Albion will lose on purpose.
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1-0 win.
Graydon penalty, no rebound required.
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Some of the comments are obviously to play to the crowd (about the crowd!). You know what though, I reckon Lambert does have the happy knack of "getting" what us lot are all about.
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It is now down to not what we are about, but to what the players are about, they got us here they have to get us out of it
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Norwich 0 Villa 5 (Bennett, Baker, Sylla, Westwood, Delph)
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2-1 Norwich. I think a draw would be a decent point if Wigan, Sunderland and newcastle all lose...
But i agree with that adrenalin quote from above. the team will be on a high but its how they handle themselves on Saturday. norwich will undoubtedly have more of the ball so we hopefully won't be too impatient in trying to force it. also, the defence still need to remember they are always prone to a goal conceding mistake so don't get too cocky on the ball too early on.
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2-1 Norwich. I think a draw would be a decent point if Wigan, Sunderland and newcastle all lose...
But i agree with that adrenalin quote from above. the team will be on a high but its how they handle themselves on Saturday. norwich will undoubtedly have more of the ball so we hopefully won't be too impatient in trying to force it. also, the defence still need to remember they are always prone to a goal conceding mistake so don't get too cocky on the ball too early on.
I don't think they will, I think we will edge/ monopolise possession in the game.
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We need to win because:
1 - we just do
and
2 - the Albion will lose on purpose.
Yes that's my fear WBA throwing the game.
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2-1 Norwich. I think a draw would be a decent point if Wigan, Sunderland and newcastle all lose...
But i agree with that adrenalin quote from above. the team will be on a high but its how they handle themselves on Saturday. norwich will undoubtedly have more of the ball so we hopefully won't be too impatient in trying to force it. also, the defence still need to remember they are always prone to a goal conceding mistake so don't get too cocky on the ball too early on.
I don't think they will, I think we will edge/ monopolise possession in the game.
We may do, but last time we were in this position next up was Fulham at home. When there's been a glimmer of light we've managed to mess up the next game. Lets see what they are like on Saturday.
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2 - 1 to us, Lambert will know how to exploit their weaknesses and they just won't be able to handle The Beast.
Scorers - The Beast and Vlaar with a 50 yard screamer.
Baggies will turn Wigan over - I think Figueroa is a big loss for them for the rest of the season.
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Best quoteI saw about Wigan
They are like most uni students I know. Do fucking nothing all year, and when it comes to the hand-in, work solid and dig themselves out the shit.
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Ha good analogy. I'm a bit like that at work to be honest. Can't get motivated til a deadline is looming
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That photo really is extraordinary.
I think he's jumped and met the ball at about 12 feet/3metres +. Going by the heights of the other players and the fact that they are off the ground. Stunning.
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1-3 win.
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That photo really is extraordinary.
I think he's jumped and met the ball at about 12 feet/3metres +. Going by the heights of the other players and the fact that they are off the ground. Stunning.
Especially when you consider it was quite late in the game, too, and he had every right to feel a bit leggy.
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My confidence is what's worrying me the most tbh.
Understandably, I think I can smell the faint whiff of over confidence.
I trust Lambert has the team's feet on the ground.
I hope Lambert hasn't got the team's feet on the ground.
Well not this particular member anyway.
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/30/article-2317155-198C0AA3000005DC-335_634x390.jpg)
The expressions on Cuellar and Osheas faces says it all
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That photo really is extraordinary.
I think he's jumped and met the ball at about 12 feet/3metres +. Going by the heights of the other players and the fact that they are off the ground. Stunning.
Especially when you consider it was quite late in the game, too, and he had every right to feel a bit leggy.
We have to hang on to him till the 2016 Olympics.
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A draw for both worselvees and Wigwam. 1-1 in both games looks a decent bet.
As you were, but leaves Wigan with even fewer games to turn it around.
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That photo really is extraordinary.
I think he's jumped and met the ball at about 12 feet/3metres +. Going by the heights of the other players and the fact that they are off the ground. Stunning.
Especially when you consider it was quite late in the game, too, and he had every right to feel a bit leggy.
We have to hang on to him till the 2016 Olympics.
You mean so we can enter him for the high-jump?
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2-1 Norwich. I think a draw would be a decent point if Wigan, Sunderland and newcastle all lose...
But i agree with that adrenalin quote from above. the team will be on a high but its how they handle themselves on Saturday. norwich will undoubtedly have more of the ball so we hopefully won't be too impatient in trying to force it. also, the defence still need to remember they are always prone to a goal conceding mistake so don't get too cocky on the ball too early on.
I don't think they will, I think we will edge/ monopolise possession in the game.
We may do, but last time we were in this position next up was Fulham at home. When there's been a glimmer of light we've managed to mess up the next game. Lets see what they are like on Saturday.
So do you still think we're gonna get relegated?
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Norwich haven't lost at home since before Xmas, but they've drawn a lot too. I really think we can win this with our firepower, but it may well be a draw.
That would edge us closer to safety, but I really do want a win. Wigan would definitely take the option of having to beat us on the final day to stay up. If they can match our result this weekend, then beat Swansea, they probably will be in that position. If they do better than us this weekend, then we're right in it still
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Norwich haven't lost at home since before Xmas, but they've drawn a lot too. I really think we can win this with our firepower, but it may well be a draw.
That would edge us closer to safety, but I really do want a win. Wigan would definitely take the option of having to beat us on the final day to stay up. If they can match our result this weekend, then beat Swansea, they probably will be in that position. If they do better than us this weekend, then we're right in it still
I don't think they will match our result if we win and I think we will win.
Figueroa is a big loss for them and now Chelsea are in the final of the Europa League, hopefully Benitez will rest a few for our game against them which is the Saturday before the final. Of course, he may not do that if their top 4 place hasn't been secured by then but I can't see the current top 4 changing.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
If we draw, I'd still back us to stay up but I think it will go to the final day unless Wigan implode.
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Lets just bloody win tomorrow and hopefully wigan will loose and we can all relax,had enough of theses nervous games now
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Win tomorrow and I believe we're safe. Anything less and we'll need a result against Wigan and I really, really really don't want us to be going to Wigan last day of the season needing a result to stay up. 2-1 Villa win
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We can score goals and they can't so another good performance and another win I think 2-1 villa! Benteke and weinmann scoring
Sums it up beautifully!!
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Can't quote at work so in reply to eamonn - yes, i do still have serious worries about relegation. If we win tomorrow and get some space between us, Wigan, Newcastle, and Narrch then I would be getting a little more confident. I think that we have the tughest run-in of those around us. Newcastle have Wet Ham and QPR away, and then Arsenal. I can see points there. Wigan have Swansea, Albion, as well as a home game against us. If Wigan need 3 points against us to stay up how many people here would back against them? I had knots in my stomach on the lead up to Monday night and its starting again ahead of tomorrow. i really am not looking forward to Wigan.
Anyway, Underland have two home games left - Stoke and Southampton and you'd think they'd get points from those games.
Yes, we're in a half-decent position. But its not inconceivable that we'd get nothing from norwich or Chelsea leaving us having to go to Wigan to get something. Which we really do not want to be doing. that is also why tomorrow, again, is massive. A win and we're almost there. A draw or a defeat and we will be definitely going to Wigan having to get something out of it.
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On Norwich City fans forum, suggestions are that Bassong will be fit for tomorrow from a knee injury, but Turner likely to miss the game.
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We have a good record at Wigan. But in any case I think we'll pick up points in all the remaining games starting with a win tomorrow.
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Peter W, i disagree with Toon army. First up Big Sam who bears grudges, and has two ex Newcastle playes champing at the bit. Next up is the pressure off QPR.... Now they are down, they will be up to sign off at home with a good display, and looking at a team that will be set up for next year, i expect no journeymen. Finally Arse who will be fighting for fourth with their awd enemy, Spuds. I think this is the toughest run in]
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Can't quote at work so in reply to eamonn - yes, i do still have serious worries about relegation. If we win tomorrow and get some space between us, Wigan, Newcastle, and Narrch then I would be getting a little more confident. I think that we have the tughest run-in of those around us. Newcastle have Wet Ham and QPR away, and then Arsenal. I can see points there. Wigan have Swansea, Albion, as well as a home game against us. If Wigan need 3 points against us to stay up how many people here would back against them? I had knots in my stomach on the lead up to Monday night and its starting again ahead of tomorrow. i really am not looking forward to Wigan.
Anyway, Underland have two home games left - Stoke and Southampton and you'd think they'd get points from those games.
Yes, we're in a half-decent position. But its not inconceivable that we'd get nothing from norwich or Chelsea leaving us having to go to Wigan to get something. Which we really do not want to be doing. that is also why tomorrow, again, is massive. A win and we're almost there. A draw or a defeat and we will be definitely going to Wigan having to get something out of it.
If they need to beat us to stay up we will win, comfortably. They will have to come at us, and we will pick them off.
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And they will have played a punishing fixture pile up, have lost key players, may lose more and we are in good form and play well there. I think we'll be safe by then but I'd be confident of beating them regardless.
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Peter W, i disagree with Toon army. First up Big Sam who bears grudges, and has two ex Newcastle playes champing at the bit. Next up is the pressure off QPR.... Now they are down, they will be up to sign off at home with a good display, and looking at a team that will be set up for next year, i expect no journeymen. Finally Arse who will be fighting for fourth with their awd enemy, Spuds. I think this is the toughest run in]
Challenge of the day. Check out QPR's 25 man PL squad and try to pick a side with no journeymen or mercenaries that won't be there next season.
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1-2 for me, still no clean sheet but we can certainly score.
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We have to hang on to him till the 2016 Olympics.
You mean so we can enter him for the high-jump?
The high jump, the pole vault, the basketball...a one-man team! Sadly, I've just realised - that team would be Belgium.
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Can't quote at work so in reply to eamonn - yes, i do still have serious worries about relegation. If we win tomorrow and get some space between us, Wigan, Newcastle, and Narrch then I would be getting a little more confident. I think that we have the tughest run-in of those around us. Newcastle have Wet Ham and QPR away, and then Arsenal. I can see points there. Wigan have Swansea, Albion, as well as a home game against us. If Wigan need 3 points against us to stay up how many people here would back against them? I had knots in my stomach on the lead up to Monday night and its starting again ahead of tomorrow. i really am not looking forward to Wigan.
Anyway, Underland have two home games left - Stoke and Southampton and you'd think they'd get points from those games.
Yes, we're in a half-decent position. But its not inconceivable that we'd get nothing from norwich or Chelsea leaving us having to go to Wigan to get something. Which we really do not want to be doing. that is also why tomorrow, again, is massive. A win and we're almost there. A draw or a defeat and we will be definitely going to Wigan having to get something out of it.
That is assuming Wigan pick up results in the meantime. I think it is quite conceivable that Wigan could not win a game in the lead up to the final day, in which case we will be fine.
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We have to hang on to him till the 2016 Olympics.
You mean so we can enter him for the high-jump?
The high jump, the pole vault, the basketball...a one-man team! Sadly, I've just realised - that team would be Belgium.
It is about time they had something new to shout about rather than Van Damme, Eddie Merckx, Poirot and Mannequin Pis.
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Peter W, i disagree with Toon army. First up Big Sam who bears grudges, and has two ex Newcastle playes champing at the bit. Next up is the pressure off QPR.... Now they are down, they will be up to sign off at home with a good display, and looking at a team that will be set up for next year, i expect no journeymen. Finally Arse who will be fighting for fourth with their awd enemy, Spuds. I think this is the toughest run in]
Challenge of the day. Check out QPR's 25 man PL squad and try to pick a side with no journeymen or mercenaries that won't be there next season.
Can't be done. Impossible.
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Really don't want to be going into the last day with less than 4 points ahead of Wigan, which means we must win tomorrow to have any chance of that.
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It's a pity the last Belgian we had (i think, Luc Nillis anyway) didn't play a few more games for us.
What a player.
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Really don't want to be going into the last day with less than 4 points ahead of Wigan, which means we must win tomorrow to have any chance of that.
Agree that I don't want any possibility of us going down when we go to Wigan on the final day. We just need to beat Norwich and Chelsea, that'll do.
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It's a pity the last Belgian we had (i think, Luc Nillis anyway) didn't play a few more games for us.
What a player.
so not Giles De Bilde? ;)
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aha just looked De Bilde was before Nillis.
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Didn't we end up with his brother Bob instead?
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I'm surprised so many are predicting a win a Norwich, seeing as they've only lost 3 at home this season.
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Stoke had only lost two at home before we played them, Pete.
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I'm surprised so many are predicting a win a Norwich, seeing as they've only lost 3 at home this season.
They haven't lost at home since December when Man City won there 4-3, so probably due a defeat!
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We will keep a clean sheet sooner or later, what better chance that at Norwich with their lack of firepower?
Sunderland feel-good factor to continue rather than complacency setting in, 3-0 Villa, Bentekke with two more to hit that 20 mark in the league.
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I'm surprised so many are predicting a win a Norwich, seeing as they've only lost 3 at home this season.
They hadn't been beaten for 10 games when we smashed them there before Christmas.
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3-1 villa win at least , but could well be more! I feel as confident about this game as i did at stoke and think we will be far too good for Norwich.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
If we win tomorrow Wigan would need at least 8 points from their last 4 games not 6.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
But you're assuming there's only two teams involved in this fight to stay up.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
But you're assuming there's only two teams involved in this fight to stay up.
Yes, but it wouldn't be enough to take us down.
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Still think Newcastle are going to struggle with there last three games.
West Ham - Away
QPR - Away
Arsenal - Home
1pt ?
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Still think Newcastle are going to struggle with there last three games.
West Ham - Away
QPR - Away
Arsenal - Home
1pt ?
They'll beat QPR. They have absolutely no fight left in them.
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Still think Newcastle are going to struggle with there last three games.
West Ham - Away
QPR - Away
Arsenal - Home
1pt ?
They'll beat QPR. They have absolutely no fight left in them.
I think qpr will win it
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Still think Newcastle are going to struggle with there last three games.
West Ham - Away
QPR - Away
Arsenal - Home
1pt ?
They'll beat QPR. They have absolutely no fight left in them.
I think qpr will win it
Ye and me. Think now Rednapp has openly condemned players attitudes. They will up there game for the final home game .....
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1-0 Norwich home win.
There, I've jinxed them...
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0-4 Benteke 16 Gabby 36 Weimann 66 Bent 85
Headlines in the Sunday rags: Aston Villa Canary Killa!
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Just pray for 3 points tomorrow
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Just pray for 3 points tomorrow
Indeed.
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2-1 to us. We'll go 2 up, concede with 15 minutes to go, survive some tense moments, but ultimately will get the three points that will all but see us safe.
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After his 2nd half hat-trick on Monday night I expect Benteke to have an off day....... and only hit the back of the net twice tomorrow.
We will win this one 2-1.
Grant Holt punches the ball in to our net again for theirs.
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Still think Newcastle are going to struggle with there last three games.
West Ham - Away
QPR - Away
Arsenal - Home
1pt ?
They'll beat QPR. They have absolutely no fight left in them.
I think qpr will win it
Me too.
Newcastle have won one away game all year.
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Headlines in the Sunday rags: Aston Villa Canary Killa!
Ha! - that was a headline from our 1975 League Cup win; you can't claim the originality there, VL!!
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Newcastle have won one away game all year.
Who would be crap enough to lose at home to Newcast.... Oh Paulie you reminded me :-(
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
Wigan have won 2 premier games since December, both of those lucky. It's possible that they could win 3 or even all their games left but not likely. They could also lose all of their games. I think all teams under threat will be more than 3 points clear of Wigan by the time we play the last game. They will lose the Cup Final next Saturday & get relegated when they lose to Arsenal on the Wednesday.
It's long overdue.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
Wigan have won 2 premier games since December, both of those lucky. It's possible that they could win 3 or even all their games left but not likely. They could also lose all of their games. I think all teams under threat will be more than 3 points clear of Wigan by the time we play the last game. They will lose the Cup Final next Saturday & get relegated when they lose to Arsenal on the Wednesday.
It's long overdue.
Agree John. Their luck has to run out at some point.
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Newcastle will piss on QPR - jeeps I'd fancy our Ladies team to beat them at the moment. A Zombie football club stuffed with 25 players who don't give a shit.
They'll finish bottom
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Like the stoke scoreline 1-3. There was a great feeling we would win that one we did. Theres also a feeling we win this one. Gabby Andi and Chrissy B to score!!
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Villa to win 2-1, buggies to go 1 up then get roasted in the 2nd half.
Also think the self styled pride of the midlands cough cough!!!! might do the pie eaters.
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I agree if we win tomorrow it would take some combination of results to take us down.
What, Wigan win their game in hand, then beat us on the final day. That is not a far-fetched combination.
Wigan have won 2 premier games since December, both of those lucky. It's possible that they could win 3 or even all their games left but not likely. They could also lose all of their games. I think all teams under threat will be more than 3 points clear of Wigan by the time we play the last game. They will lose the Cup Final next Saturday & get relegated when they lose to Arsenal on the Wednesday.
It's long overdue.
Agree John. Their luck has to run out at some point.
Did it annoy anyone else when Martinez started saying the decisions in the Spurs game did not go for them, and that is how it goes if you are at the bottom!? I thought you must have a shit memory, as Gomez should have gone then your centre half saved in front of the keeper with his hand in the last seconds of the game. Couple that with the Newcastle game where McManaman should have been sent off and the handball for the winner, the dubious free kick for the goal against QPR with the last kick of the game and a host of others recently. Even in the game they battered us Holman rattled the bar at 1-0 down, so they have had enough fortune this season!
Please football gods, get shut of Whelan!
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Off topic slightly, but if you were to take a load of elephants and put them somewhere like Siberia or Greenland, would they die out or would they eventually evolve into woolly mammoths?
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Slightly?
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Theyd probably die , the transposition would need to be more gradual. I could of course be completely wrong.
Back on topic , if you took a pack of hungry lions and threw them into an aviary filled with canaries , what's the likely outcome ?
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How about taking Dave Whelan and leaving him in Greenland? Would he evolve into a higher form of life, such as a jar of pickled beetroot?
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Theyd probably die , the transposition would need to be more gradual. I could of course be completely wrong.
Back on topic , if you took a pack of hungry lions and threw them into an aviary filled with canaries , what's the likely outcome ?
The lions would eat each other.
Come on Villa allow me to relax for the rest if the season, please.
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How about taking Dave Whelan and leaving him in Greenland? Would he evolve into a higher form of life, such as a jar of pickled beetroot?
I cannot describe my dislike of uncle Dave. I would love him to go down, and his bleating about Woberto being a top 4 manager, and too big for Villa and Liverpool proved to be total shite.
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I shall probably be out with my Mrs and miss this game, I just pray we win.
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If Wigan finally drop, perhaps Real Madrid may finally be able to tempt him away from the DW hotseat.
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If Wigan finally drop, perhaps Real Madrid may finally be able to tempt him away from the DW hotseat.
Gobby Whelan and 'the worlds next great manager' going down would be priceless.
Newcastle, who 'bought their way out of trouble as Villa should have done', equally so.
Sunderland, because of Di Canio's antics when we played Swindon, would be another smile widener.
So, pretty much as long as we stay up whoever else does go will raise a giggle or two.
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How about taking Dave Whelan and leaving him in Greenland? Would he evolve into a higher form of life, such as a jar of pickled beetroot?
I cannot describe my dislike of uncle Dave. I would love him to go down, and his bleating about Woberto being a top 4 manager, and too big for Villa and Liverpool proved to be total shite.
The man's a scumbag as well, for lots of other non-fottball reasons that won't interest you if you're not from Wigan.
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Special mention to Ricky at the Villa ticket office, who took precisely one minute to sort out a duplicate ticket for today's game, after Royal Mail let me down. Really helpful and a credit to the club. Just hope the trip is worth it now.
2-4 (Benteke 2, Gabby, Baker piledriver)
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If we can stay up - and it's still an 'if' - I'd like to see Newcastle go down this season and Wigan the next. Newcastle, because of the whupping they gave us at St James' Park, for punching a horse and because they are Newcastle. Also because everything that happens to Newcastle, whether good or bad, somehow appears to be magnified by 1000.
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How about taking Dave Whelan and leaving him in Greenland? Would he evolve into a higher form of life, such as a jar of pickled beetroot?
I cannot describe my dislike of uncle Dave. I would love him to go down, and his bleating about Woberto being a top 4 manager, and too big for Villa and Liverpool proved to be total shite.
The man's a scumbag as well, for lots of other non-fottball reasons that won't interest you if you're not from Wigan.
His next appearance will be on the Saville thread i reckon.
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Is anyone stuck behind a combine harvester on the A14 yet ?
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Is anyone stuck behind a combine harvester on the A14 yet ?
Listening to the music from Deliverence ?
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Is anyone stuck behind a combine harvester on the A14 yet ?
Beware the country roads!
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Turner out but Bassong fit apparently
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Hate the fact that I feel nervous about today, and it's only caused by proximity to the bottom three. So my head's in charge today, the pit of my stomach can go fk itself.
Having calmed down from earlier in this thread, I'm no longer confident that we shall score the bazillion I predicted, so I'm going 3-1 us. Maybe 4-1. I just can't see us not scoring a few. And naarch are that bad in front of goal that we'll get theirs for them.
And, to anybody who might be, I don't think there's anywhere I'd rather be right now than stuck behind a tractor heading eastward on the A14. Hope you all have another "I was there" day. Ya bastards.
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May The Fourth be with Villa. Just setting off for Carrow Road...
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Today is pivotal. Win and we're safe in my opinion. Draw or lose and we'll be going to Wigan with work to do.
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Well Im off now to Camden . I will playing at the Roundhouse tonight . But in spirit I will be at Carrow Road... Come on Villa , Make my weekend .
Im hoping I can pile round my mums tomorrow morning and maybe catch the win on the game of the day If she records it . ;)
Good luck Villa ......
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Today is pivotal. Win and we're safe in my opinion. Draw or lose and we'll be going to Wigan with work to do.
Yep.
4-1 again.
Andi's turn for a hat-trick this time, and Gary Gardner off the bench with the last from 35 yard yards.
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Anyone have an idea of how many will be heading to Norwich today?
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Going to be another exciting, fascinating afternoon. I am off gardening with the headphones on as that's been the place for me to be to ensure our recent upturn in form...
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Anyone have an idea of how many will be heading to Norwich today?
2,400
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Anyone have an idea of how many will be heading to Norwich today?
Our allocation was 2400 and I think someone posted earlier saying they'd all been sold
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Ed: Dup post
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Anyone have an idea of how many will be heading to Norwich today?
2,400
+ a few hundred in home seats
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Pre-match hubris always worries me...I just hope whatever our result is, it's the same or better than Wigan's.
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3-1 Villa win.
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3-1 is what I've gone for too.
Yippee I ohhhh!!
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Did I hear correctly that Gary Gardner is in the squad?
Great news
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I hope there is a online stream for this...
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I hope there is a online stream for this...
I'm counting on it!
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I hope there is a online stream for this...
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We could not possibly mention streaming but i am Wizzing over to one as we speak ok ........
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Unchanged for today
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Same team and subs. Come on villa.
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Norwich shook their team up and seem to be more attacking today....Pilkington and Hoolahan return.
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No match thread today?
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So if we win and Wigan lose, we'd be on 40 with two games to play and they'd be on 32 with three games to play, meaning that they'd have to win all their remaining games and everyone of those teams around us would have to not drop points and we'd have to lose the last two (not unthinkable) to go down. It's getting possible, but we bloody need to win this today.