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[Goldenballs]

Where's Dr Tony when you need him, with his floating monorail and theme park plans.

He'd sort this out.

[Malandro]

So if the main point of a new 60k stadium is to generate more money to spend on players - how does this work?  Surely the extra gate money would be needed to pay for the new stadium??

The cost of the stadium is outside ffp.

So who who actually pays for the stadium?

Our new partner.

[olaftab]

So if the main point of a new 60k stadium is to generate more money to spend on players - how does this work?  Surely the extra gate money would be needed to pay for the new stadium??

The cost of the stadium is outside ffp.

So who who actually pays for the stadium?

Fairies who live in the money tree.

[kippaxvilla2]

We will playing at Atairos Park.

[Olneythelonely]

My point was if the QE and Birmingham uni can in effect drag up Strichley, then why couldn’t a stadium with bars and restaurants along Aston uni (now with business school and medical school) drag up the around VP?  Their graduates have to live somewhere.

Stirchley is not a graduate area. Do you mean Selly Oak?

[Gareth]

We can argue as much as we like about moving or staying, at some point we will be told ( not asked not consulted) told by the club and we can either like it or lump it.

100% true CL

[Ads]

"There's nowhere in the city centre". Meanwhile for every home game I come over the A38 off J6 and see a skyline full of cranes, building where other things were. We make the land in the city centre, just like others are now. Snobs has moved twice now because others had a better idea for development.

[Chris Harte]

Sorry, have I missed something?

With all this talk of gentrifying Aston, I was under the impression the area around Tottenham's stadium was still a shithole. I'm sure it was being talked about on this very thread a few days ago. Or did I imagine that?

They have massively developed the spurs area. They slowly shifting all the council tenants out. Its nowhere as shit as it use to be but traffic still horrific

Thanks. I obviously misunderstood.

[Ads]

You can't park within a mile and a bit of the ground on match days down there.

[TonyD]

So if the main point of a new 60k stadium is to generate more money to spend on players - how does this work?  Surely the extra gate money would be needed to pay for the new stadium??

The cost of the stadium is outside ffp.

So who who actually pays for the stadium?

Our new partner.

Why would someone cough up the best part of a billion pounds? What’s in it for them?

[Dante Lavelli]

That’s a fair question but impossible to know the answer when it’s just rumours. There’s plenty of Coventry/Oxford Uniteds that have been stitched up by investors when moving grounds so you’d hope the fans will hold the club to account if anything is agreed/announced.

[RamboandBruno]

Sorry, have I missed something?

With all this talk of gentrifying Aston, I was under the impression the area around Tottenham's stadium was still a shithole. I'm sure it was being talked about on this very thread a few days ago. Or did I imagine that?

They have massively developed the spurs area. They slowly shifting all the council tenants out. Its nowhere as shit as it use to be but traffic still horrific

And where did they put the council tenants in the name of progress, do we know if they wanted to move?

[Somniloquism]

"There's nowhere in the city centre". Meanwhile for every home game I come over the A38 off J6 and see a skyline full of cranes, building where other things were. We make the land in the city centre, just like others are now. Snobs has moved twice now because others had a better idea for development.

Not all that line of cranes is in the centre and for each crane in the city centre, that is land we now can't develop. And also is also mostly for a development with a footprint of a normal office block. The closest that could be used for comparison of the size in the centre we need is the Bullring or Grand Central / New Street station, both built on pretty much the existing footprint. So if you know of a building area the size of those which is waiting for redevelopment in the main core of the centre, then suggest away.

You can't park within a mile and a bit of the ground on match days down there.

You wouldn't be able to park within a mile and a bit in the city centre as well.

[Somniloquism]

Why would someone cough up the best part of a billion pounds? What’s in it for them?

They get their money back with interest over the 20-30 years of the investment repayments. But instead of Villa working on a current seasonal turnover of £100 mil, we could be working off £150 mil, the extra £50m is spilt between paying back the loans and interest and investing more in the team. And those are low balling. Tottenham went from £200mil turnover in WHL, to £630mil after they rebuilt. Of course they also had CL in there.

[tomd2103]

"There's nowhere in the city centre". Meanwhile for every home game I come over the A38 off J6 and see a skyline full of cranes, building where other things were. We make the land in the city centre, just like others are now. Snobs has moved twice now because others had a better idea for development.

Not all that line of cranes is in the centre and for each crane in the city centre, that is land we now can't develop. And also is also mostly for a development with a footprint of a normal office block. The closest that could be used for comparison of the size in the centre we need is the Bullring or Grand Central station, both built on pretty much the existing footprint. So if you know of a building area the size of those which is waiting for redevelopment in the main core of the centre, then suggest away.

You can't park within a mile and a bit of the ground on match days down there.

You wouldn't be able to park within a mile and a bit in the city centre as well.

Might well be the case that there is no available land, but there is plenty of parking at weekends in the Gun Quarter, which is a 10 minute walk at most to the city centre.  One of the benefits of having it in the city centre though would mean a lot of people who live in the surrounding areas probably wouldn't drive. 

That area is also reasonable walking distance to the gasworks site as well.