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Offline Comrade Blitz

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NSWE Investment
« on: July 20, 2018, 03:26:30 PM »
Here you go:

Offline Toronto Villa

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2018, 03:35:33 PM »
I don't like the look of that. They appear skint.

Edit: Comment made because I don't see anything in the post above in terms of a link
« Last Edit: July 20, 2018, 03:52:10 PM by Toronto Villa »

Offline Three Spires Villa

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2018, 03:40:29 PM »
Good luck and welcome. Hope it all works out for you

Offline TopDeck113

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2018, 03:40:47 PM »
So our new invester made his money from fertilizer... Something to remember should it all go to shit.

Offline Risso

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2018, 03:54:32 PM »
While I for one welcome our new bound to be a disaster we are the Villa after all overlords.

Online andyh

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2018, 03:56:06 PM »
Welcome.
Question number 1. Is there anyway a solution can be found that prevents us selling our best players?

Online Mister E

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2018, 03:56:52 PM »
So our new invester made his money from fertilizer... Something to remember should it all go to shit.
No excuse for not having the best pitch in the top four divisions, then!!

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2018, 03:57:17 PM »
I apologize if this has been answered in detail elsewhere but a friend of mine (United fan, banker) is asking why the new investors/co-owners can't just purchase the debt and start at 0 as far as FFP is concerned. Is there simply a rule in the FFP regulations that forbids this? Does all income have to be generated by sale of assets to factor against FFP losses?

Thanks.

Online Mister E

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2018, 03:59:04 PM »
Serious question: how will we stop irresponsible people at the club going on another player-buying spree to load us up with more ageing players on long-term contracts?

Now that we have arrested the financial problems, I sincerely hope that there will be an injection of intelligence, common sense and some coaching & tactics!

Offline frank black

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2018, 04:01:56 PM »
Interesting to see what if any impact this has upon player sales.

Offline Risso

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2018, 04:02:59 PM »
I apologize if this has been answered in detail elsewhere but a friend of mine (United fan, banker) is asking why the new investors/co-owners can't just purchase the debt and start at 0 as far as FFP is concerned. Is there simply a rule in the FFP regulations that forbids this? Does all income have to be generated by sale of assets to factor against FFP losses?

Thanks.

FFP is just to do with income, expenses and losses. Our problems are caused by falling parachute payments and high wages for wasters like Richards.  The only real way out of the problem is to generate profit on player trading, hence the likely sales of Grealish and Chester.

Unless the new owners take a ‘fuck it’ approach to FFP, they’ll still probably have to be sold.

Offline Woofles The Wonder Dog

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2018, 04:08:24 PM »
I apologize if this has been answered in detail elsewhere but a friend of mine (United fan, banker) is asking why the new investors/co-owners can't just purchase the debt and start at 0 as far as FFP is concerned. Is there simply a rule in the FFP regulations that forbids this? Does all income have to be generated by sale of assets to factor against FFP losses?

Thanks.

FFP is just to do with income, expenses and losses. Our problems are caused by falling parachute payments and high wages for wasters like Richards.  The only real way out of the problem is to generate profit on player trading, hence the likely sales of Grealish and Chester.

Unless the new owners take a ‘fuck it’ approach to FFP, they’ll still probably have to be sold.

Yep, from my seriously alcohol impaired memory, owners can only turn £8m debt into equity per annum. Judging from our borrowing that won't cover our losses. Maybe some FFP-friendly sponsorship (which might mean a trade-off of sell Jack or plonk a fancy name on Villa Park) would help.

Offline GarTomas

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2018, 04:09:01 PM »
I apologize if this has been answered in detail elsewhere but a friend of mine (United fan, banker) is asking why the new investors/co-owners can't just purchase the debt and start at 0 as far as FFP is concerned. Is there simply a rule in the FFP regulations that forbids this? Does all income have to be generated by sale of assets to factor against FFP losses?

Thanks.

The debt from a company perspective was pretty much wiped when Xia converted the debt to equity (I think)

Online London Villan

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2018, 04:09:10 PM »
If they sell the players then the value of the club drops overnight. They must have a way around this or they have taken the drop in value into account as part of the deal.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: NSWE Investment
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2018, 04:10:11 PM »

 


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