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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Toronto Villa on December 28, 2020, 07:24:26 PM
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That’s a really good point. We worked hard all game, deserved the goal we got through AEG and could have won it. Very happy with that indeed.
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Cracking result that. Douglas and SJM were superb.
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Superb.Best team performance of the season for me.
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Very happy with the point. Commentary was crap.
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Solid point.
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Great performance, good result. We're a proper good team aren't we?
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Magnificent effort. Bravo lads.
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Very good game. Well done lads, Chelsea looked the best team we’ve played.
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Two games in three days for the same players and get a very good result, excellent away against a good team.
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Hard work but given the circumstances very pleased with a point.
Oh, and I'm sure I won't be the first to say it, Jim Beglin is a ******.
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SJM MOTM. We are a proper team. They are the best team we’ve played this season and we could’ve beaten them.
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Take that
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Very solid team performance. We are getting hard to beat. We tired but still looked a threat throughout the game.
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With the run of fixtures and 3 hours of football in two days that is a great result.
For the absurd money they've spent on Havertz, Werner, Pulisic, Jorginho.. I am not impressed. Mason Mount could barely trouble Targett today.
Happy with the point, onto the next one! UTV
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How far have we come?
Brilliant Villa.
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Brilliant result, mcginn,luiz, magnificent
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Decent point.
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That is a very good result give two days rest and going down a goal. Well played!
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Oh to have a bench like Chelsea’s.
Soon come. Soon come.
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Superb result from a very hard game game and our work rate earned that.
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Did well to rouse ourselves and get back into it and after that it was pretty even. Good solid away performance.
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Take that
and Party.
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Hard work but given the circumstances very pleased with a point.
Oh, and I'm sure I won't be the first to say it, Jim Beglin is a ******.
Yep, absolute tosser.
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We are a good side now that's clear.
Need a deeper squad though. January!
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Much better second half. A very even game that, which shows how far we've come.
We have to be one of the fittest sides in the league to be doing the running we were, despite them making 6 changes.
Defensively good again, save Traore switching off a few times. Besides Chilwell volley I didnt think we gave up anything of serious threat.
Unlucky from Duracell McGinn with a cracking strike, superb from him. Dougie imperious too. Lacking a bit of fluency in attack, but I think the rest period provides for that.
Almost a fairytale for Ramsey with his 2nd touch.
We are a very good side, make no mistake.
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Fair result in the end.
Love this team.
SJM great, a few looked a bit leggy including Jack.
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a point
Good performance
Grealish didn’t get booked
Take that
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Excellent point, that. We matched a good side today, and don't look out of place going toe to toe with the big boys.
If we just beef up our squad depth, I think we will actually be one of the big boys.
Never been so excited about the future.
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Great point lads
UP THE VILLA
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Need better options off the bench now.
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Another very good result.
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I think if we'd had Trez and Barkley available for that game we'd have won
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True Grit.
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Man U will be a very tough test now. They will attack and counter very quickly. We will need to be at our best to get something up there bit no reason why we can’t.
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First point gained after going behind this season? I'll take that.
Chelsea handled us better than I thought they would, but McGinn still had the best chance of the game after the equaliser.
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Anwar El Goalzhi
We looked like we were starting to visibly tire second half and Chelsea looked fresher throughout - as well they might with six changes from their last game and bringing the likes of Werner off the bench.
The first point I can remember for a while that feels like a point gained rather than one dropped.
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A very pleasing result. Non of the swashbuckling razzmatazz of previous games but we showed great resilience, heading, kicking and clearing the ball away, blocking everything and limiting Chelsea to very few clear cut chances. Martinez and defence superb and great games in front of them from Doug and McGinn. Thought Ramsey had won it towards the end but a good point to take.
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Performances like this are probably more indicative of our improvement than comfortably beating teams like West Brom and Palace. Remember, this is a team that qualified for the champions league and then went out and spent a quarter of a BILLION pounds strengthening the side.
This is side with title ambitions, and we went toe-to-toe with them, comfortably deserving of a point.
There have been games like this in the recent past where we've ended up folding, but this team continues to delight me. Comfortable in possession, always looking to take the game to the opposition, defending resolutely and proper effort across the pitch. Yes, Chelsea had periods where they looked good, but at no point did the result look like a foregone conclusion.
Unbeaten in five, and up to fifth! Onwards and upwards!
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I think if we'd had Trez and Barkley available for that game we'd have won
I can see Barkley coming in for Bert against Man U. Provide that extra cover through the middle.
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I think if we'd had Trez and Barkley available for that game we'd have won
Indeed. Or a longer rest after the Palace game.
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Brilliant second half that, that's the difference to last season. Came out flying and could've edged it before retreating and playing out the 1-1 last 10 minutes. Ramsey so unlucky with that shot.
The other difference was that Chilwell shot would've flown in top corner last year so also need a bit of luck at times but we earnt it by digging in.
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Great and well deserved point. Thought we hung on a bit at times to be honest.
Chelsea made 6 changes, had a bench that cost 240 million and still could / should have won the game. We made one change due to suspension and didn't really have many options on the bench that could change a game.
That's the gulf between our squad and a top 6 side. That said we are a team growing by the game and who knows what we could achieve.
UP THE VILLA !!!
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We do face a dilemma about resting some of our more consistent performers at some stage over the next few games.
Particularly the ones with international commitments. They've been going at it solid since June this year with just a short break in August.
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Excellent performance. Previous Villa teams would have laid down after conceding. This lot have bottle as well as ability.
Oh and Jim Beglin, get to fuck you massive twat.
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Very good performance that. Although not devastating, Chelsea looked technically a lot better than other teams we've played recently. Many good performances, SJM motm for me. Well done lads
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Magnificent Aston Villa again!
Let's do Yanited on Friday!
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Really pleased with the result. Amazing progress being made. 12 months back we lost 3-0 at Watford in a horror show.
When we came up I hoped El Ghazi could step up but last year he struggled. What a transformation!
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Was hoping for 3 points as a nice birthday present but happy enough with that given the tough run of games coming up. Gave as good as we got for the most part.
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Was hoping for 3 points as a nice birthday present but happy enough with that given the tough run of games coming up. Gave as good as we got for the most part.
Happy Birthday mate
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Proud of the lads. Much improved 2nd half and could have taken all 3 points. Chelsea have some wonderfully technical players but they couldn't match our effort. Don't mind taking a point providing we beat the Plastics tossers on New Years Day.
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Great point. McGinn immense and unlucky with his shot off the crossbar. I don't bother listening to the commentary as I've come to expect its bias towards the sky (amazon) 6. Giroud is a tw-t.
Well done Villa boys, every player fought hard for that! UTV!
Lampard looked like a guy clinging onto his job on the touchline!
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A tough game. Fair result I thought. To win this you d needed a bit of "ball going your way" like Mcginns shot or Chillwells after going in. A rest will do good, Grealish a bit tired I thought considering his stadards. Mc ginn did throw him self about though, good game from him. This Chelsea team at their place one of the toughest opponent so far this season I thought and so pleased with a point. A bit nervewrecking following a tight game like this. OT next
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We are having a great Xmas. Long may it continue. When you remember back to this time last season when we were loosing/drawing our so called winnable games. Well done to Dean, the coaches and team for turning this around. Looking like a real solid side now.
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Good point that, games coming thick and fast now, another strong performance needed against the Red Mancs.
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Absolutely superb performance tonight. John McGinn was far and away the MOM. Every player put a shift in and we look like we can take anyone on and get a result just brilliant
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Really pleased with the result. Amazing progress being made. 12 months back we lost 3-0 at Watford in a horror show.
When we came up I hoped El Ghazi could step up but last year he struggled. What a transformation!
Yes, I am shoveling spades and spades of humble pie. One year ago today, after Watford, I thought Smith had to go.
Boy has he gone on to put together a great side.
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People who fancy Chelsea, I wouldn’t dare call them supporters, calling for franks head across social media. Absolutely hilarious and pathetic at the same time.
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Half-Man, Half-Biscuit have it correct as usual.
"They should just brick Jim Beglin up".
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Fantastic result. McGinn is such a bulldog in that midfield. We are going places. UTFV
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Kante is a great player. SJM is on a par.
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Great match, very entertaining and a very valuable, well earned point.
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and, after the final whistle, the commentators first comment was "Well ..., Aston Villa wont go away!". A bit telling in some ways I thought.
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Dean Smith has just given a very good extended post-match chat.
He sounds full of adrenalin and very happy.
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Was hoping for 3 points as a nice birthday present but happy enough with that given the tough run of games coming up. Gave as good as we got for the most part.
Happy Birthday mate
Cheers. Makes a change for us not to lose on my birthday. We're normally abject.
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Wonderful interview with SJM afterwards.
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Disappointed. Should've beaten the c**ts.
Not really. Good point.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
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Dean Smith has just given a very good extended post-match chat.
He sounds full of adrenalin and very happy.
What's he say?
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Good point and could have possibly won it with Ramsey and McGinn's efforts. Bit loose at times and games like this are probably where we could do with Barkley's extra bit of quality, but I thought the effort and commitment were superb.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
You'd imagine it would be Benteke but will go for a wildcard and guess Tom Cleverley.
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Awesome effort lads , well done. 96 hours until the next one !
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How the fuck is our goal being talked about as a foul 😂
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
Dion Dublin?
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
Dion Dublin?
Heskey ?
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
Dion Dublin?
Heskey ?
Benteke?
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Michael Boulding
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
Dion Dublin?
Heskey ?
Gabby?
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Well earned point. Looked overrun at times but could easily have nicked it ourselves. Proud of the lads.
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https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/12174468/villa-draw-at-chelsea-thanks-to-el-ghazi-strike
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
Dion Dublin?
Heskey ?
Gabby?
Is it a trick question like when Coventry City had never won the FA Cup ?
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Tom Cleverley.
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I bloody love this team
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Tremendous effort. Wasn't quite at it in the first half but got at them straight from the kick off in the second half. Great point and a fair result.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
Dean Saunders?
Dion Dublin?
Heskey ?
Gabby?
Bryan Small
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Good result, happy with the point.
First half Cash and Traore were being exposed too often for my liking and Hause kept hoofing it back to Chelsea. Jack also seemed a little off his normal high standard.
Second half much better, and its a sign of how far we have come that I was disappointed after we scored when we seemed to go at them for a few minutes, but then backed off.
I know it's a cliche, but we would have lost that game last season.
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What is especially pleasing is that at no time in the second half were we hanging on, we looked like we believed we could win it. We really are a club on the up.
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Yorke
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Mature performance tonight. Let the lads rest for a couple of days and let’s go and win at Old Trafford.
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Thought that the ref let the game flow pretty well, but in doing so seemed happy to let quite a few late tackles go (there wereb two in the immediate build up to McGinn's shot that hit the bar) without then going back to either reprimand or book the offender.
If he had done so then I'm sure Chelsea would have suffered - despite his apparent leniency he blew for 16 fouls by them against 3 by Villa. Mind you, if he had got the card out perhaps McGinn, Jack or Targett might have received a 5th yellow.
And another thing. You can be sure that had Ollie scored a similar goal to Giroud's VAR would have chalked it off.
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Merson
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I love the fact that this season we can be shwashbuckling and dig in like tonight. Though Traore was weak link first half but he improved his defensive awareness in the second. The defence was great, don’t think Tyrone gets back in on Friday.
Ben chiilwell just said we had one Shot and scored, eh, the goal, Mendy saved from grealish first half, McGinn hit the bar, Ramsey just wide, whatever mr chilwell
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We do face a dilemma about resting some of our more consistent performers at some stage over the next few games.
Particularly the ones with international commitments. They've been going at it solid since June this year with just a short break in August.
Jack running on empty in the second half I thought.
Great result, end to end game at times, we deserved a point anyway and that's with our front four not at their best. McGinn best player on pitch by a mile.
Martinez 7, Cash 7, Konsa 8, Hause 7, Targett 8, Luiz 7, McGinn 9, Traore 6, Jack 6, AEG 7, Watkins 5.
Ramsey 7, Davis 6
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It's not so long ago that we'd have been looking at a game like this as an exercise in goal difference damage limitation.
Now, even though not at our best tonight, we look to have the strength, desire and confidence to go toe to toe, and one thing I loved about our goal is that we resisted any thought of kicking the ball into touch with them having a player down 'injured.'
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
You'd imagine it would be Benteke but will go for a wildcard and guess Tom Cleverley.
I was thinking Hendrie.
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I asked before, but if Trez and Barkley come back, who could you sit at this point? Traore is probably the first man out, but you would have to keep everyone else in with their current form. Especially AEG.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
You'd imagine it would be Benteke but will go for a wildcard and guess Tom Cleverley.
Correct
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We couldn't really could we?
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Terrific performance, I thought the central defenders were brilliant and the chasing and harrying from the whole team was ace. We looked knackered at the end though
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
You'd imagine it would be Benteke but will go for a wildcard and guess Tom Cleverley.
Correct
Well, bugger me. Villa top five with a million games in hand and I get something right. And people said 2020 was shit?
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After what has been a tumultuous year for everyone, and certainly for the club given where we appeared to be headed, to end it 5th in the PL, 3 points back with 2 games in hand on Leicester in 2nd, with a considerably better GD is simply astonishing.
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Excellent team performance. Love having the assurance of Emi at the back. I'm also wondering when was the last time we had a pair of full backs as good as Cash and Targett?
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How the fuck is our goal being talked about as a foul 😂
Because we are spawny vile bastards.
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We matched what was for me, the best squad in the league.
There goal should stand every day of the week, there should be no issue with it, but at the same time Ollie should be on 2 more goals than he is now.
Neither team looked like they were better than the other, Chelsea for me are the best squad in the league, I will take us matching them every day of the week.
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This Villa side has the hallmark of a team going places. *
* Fingers crossed.
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That was a really well-earned point and we didn’t try and defend the draw, which is a noticeable change.
I had reservations about Hause coming in but he’s really exceeded my expectations and the defence looked solid.
I just hope we can get in a decent forward in the window as we can’t expect Watkins to play every game and injuries and suspensions will catch up.
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A well earned draw & all credit the the players & coaching staff. We've come a long way in 2 years.
If we make half that improvement over the next 2 years we'll be competing at the top table.
The team & management reminds me of the 1976 team. Young, hungry, afraid of no one & going places.
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That was a really well-earned point and we didn’t try and defend the draw, which is a noticeable change.
I had reservations about Hause coming in but he’s really exceeded my expectations and the defence looked solid.
I just hope we can get in a decent forward in the window as we can’t expect Watkins to play every game and injuries and suspensions will catch up.
what I like this season is the players like Hause, Trez and AEG know they have to fight and keep their places. I think they know the owners will buy new players to keep our status. They’ve all stepped up. Makes our squad stronger in reality. I think we need better back up CM. Hourihane and Nakamba might be ok for moments, but wouldn’t trust them to replace McGinn or Luiz and play as well as AEG and Hause have.
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Great result .....we are certainly short of quality and quantity on the bench however it means we are having to keep the team unchanged despite the number of games at this time of year - it is highlighting the great team spirit and work ethic .... furthermore the squad are definitely fitter this season .
Get a result at Old Trafford and I will be extremely happy, more importantly I will be eventually convinced that Smith is the man to take us to the next level .......something I didn't envisage this time last year ......well done Dean and team
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Hard work but given the circumstances very pleased with a point.
Oh, and I'm sure I won't be the first to say it, Jim Beglin is a ******.
Bloody hell it has been a long time since I heard any mention of Jim Beglin. I didn't see the game but I was listening in on Talksport.
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Whoever is our current Fitness and Conditioning Coach deserves a blooming gold medal.
Unbelievable fitness levels.
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We needed a tough game before we go to OT on Friday.
Good preparation.
I’d be tempted to start Ramsey. And have Ross coming off the bench on the hour.
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Our next three league games are Man Utd, Tottenham and Everton; three games to relish, and who'd have thought that, a year ago?
Edit: or even three months ago?
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Our next three league games are Man Utd, Tottenham and Everton; three games to relish, and who'd have thought that, a year ago?
Edit: or even three months ago?
Agreed. Really enjoyed the game today, an absorbing contest between two very good sides that could have gone either way.
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We needed a tough game before we go to OT on Friday.
Good preparation.
I’d be tempted to start Ramsey. And have Ross coming off the bench on the hour.
Drop Traore for another midfielder.
Grealish out wide.
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That was a really well-earned point and we didn’t try and defend the draw, which is a noticeable change.
I had reservations about Hause coming in but he’s really exceeded my expectations and the defence looked solid.
I just hope we can get in a decent forward in the window as we can’t expect Watkins to play every game and injuries and suspensions will catch up.
Hause is clearly a good central stopper and was never a left back although he was sold as cover for both.
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Excellent display. Magnificent work rate and it wasn't a backs to the walls scrap either. It was a well matched game. On recent form and today, we look like we can compete on the same level as Chelsea are expecting to. Whatever McGinn is having for breakfast I'd like to know. He just does not stop. He was superb today.
Got to say too, on the defensive side El Ghazi has upped his work rate immensely compared to last season. He ran himself into the ground today. An excellent shift. Traore slept for their goal, but worked hard otherwise. The faith in Ramsey is also pleasing and he was unlucky not to score right from coming on.
Despite Chelsea rotating (and after scoring they had more zip than we did up to the half time whistle) I thought we ended the game looking fresher. Pleasing point and a fair result.
Another solid display from Emi as well. Much credit to the fullbacks too. Everyone is pulling their weight at the moment.
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With the pace that Man U have we can't afford to give them the space that Chelsea had down our right side.
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I had reservations about Hause coming in but he’s really exceeded my expectations and the defence looked solid.
For all his poor distribution he more than made up for it with his heading. Chelsea put a lot of crosses into the box and 9 times out of ten he was on the end of it. Great defending.
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After what has been a tumultuous year for everyone, and certainly for the club given where we appeared to be headed, to end it 5th in the PL, 3 points back with 2 games in hand on Leicester in 2nd, with a considerably better GD is simply astonishing.
This is a pretty much perfect summation of where we are. What a season it is so far. Love this team.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
My first guess would be Darren Bent.
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We needed a tough game before we go to OT on Friday.
Good preparation.
Big, big effort required on Friday then a week's rest before the Liverpool cup game (they only have 4 days) and 5 days before Spurs (they only have 3 days plus an EFL cup game beforehand).
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Kante is a great player. SJM is on a par.
SJM is a great player. Kante is nearly on a par.
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A cracking point that ! Big difference in squad quality but that will come in time ,I said before our next couple of signings will tell us where we are going
And just to remind people around here
"We'me villa aye we "
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Battling performance from us John McGinn was brilliant I'm happy with the point.
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If you want a good laugh, look at the neighbours message boards. SHA have their usual multi page Villa match thread, crying over Super Jack.
But MolMix has to be the most hilariously bitter thread I've seen in a while! Page after page of sanctimonious hang wringing about cheating when they have players diving week in and week out for penalties. Only Man United and the Wolves have had players booked for diving this year. Tsk tsk.
Think there's a bit of a bottom lip out. Much like those bitter tossers from Sandwell "knowing what they are..." so too the tatters from Dinglehampton have believed in "minding the gap" a bit too much. Now natural order in the universe is restored, it tae fair!
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Our next three league games are Man Utd, Tottenham and Everton; three games to relish, and who'd have thought that, a year ago?
Edit: or even three months ago?
Agreed. Really enjoyed the game today, an absorbing contest between two very good sides that could have gone either way.
I really enjoyed the game today solid by each and everyone
But in regards to next 3 league matches Man Utd away - could have won that last season 2-2
Spurs Home - we should have won that !
Everton home we did win it!
The difference this season our expectation will be higher.
I remember Villa hanging in a lot of matches last season but the mistakes and quality let us down
This season we can win all 3 !
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Dean Smith has just given a very good extended post-match chat.
He sounds full of adrenalin and very happy.
What's he say?
He reiterated his pre-game quote saying he’s never seen a player leave the pitch through exhaustion, so happy to play the same eleven as the previous game.
Said it takes 3/4 seasons to get a squad like Chelsea’s and Villa have supportive owners to do that.
Repeated this in response to a question about January spending. If he needs it, they will pay.
He then removed Jim Beglin’s testicles with a spoon (blunt and rusty of course) and forced him to eat them.
Then made him shit them out and eat them again.
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Considering only 2 days ago that team had played a match one man short for the whole of the 2nd half, the commitment and work rate today was immense. Have to single out SJM he was brilliant today, as good as any match he has played for us and what a shot, if it had gone in would be a contender for goal of the season.
A sign of how much the fans believe in this team, was the poll in the pre match thread, only 21% went for a Chelsea win, can't ever remember a % that low, against a 'top 6' team.
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I have just heard that idiot Danny Mills on Talkshite telling us that the Villa goal should have not stood as Jack stuck a leg out and their guy caught him and was injured and it was a Chelsea free kick God some of these pundits are a joke
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Barry?
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Grealish was solid if not dazzling spectacular
Started off slow yet again and gave the ball away with a blind pass which should have seen Pulisic score.
Jack left us all frustrated I'm sure when we saw him 2nd half make a burst and dirve forward to goal but instead of a direct action continuing his great run either into the penalty area or to the by line he gave ball away in eagerness trying to play el Ghazi in
I didn't like how he was treated for a lot of the game but he now seems to start matches off half looking for fouls in order to show the ref he's being fouled.
But he is also being fouled and it was not till 45 minute that ref finally decided to card a Chelsea player.
Thought villa started well and Jack Grealish after a while got into the game as he eas dropping to deep i heard smith shouting higher to him a few times. He even having a decent effort early on at goal but saw his quality more second half. As hewas a great outlet and part of revival second half. But was disappointed how he initially started giving ball away with first touch and fouled twice but because of way reacted ref wouldn't give it.
McGinn and Douglas immense. As was Cash , Konsa and Hause
Felt for Watkins who had little to work with
Really pleasing result and determined effort
Great to see.
At this time AEG is the most likely scorer of goals but the other front attacking players can definitely get goals. But AEG has stepped up a level and really pleased for him. 5 goals in 5 games.
I love McGinn screaming effort which capped a wonderful performance. Hes some player!
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I have just heard that idiot Danny Mills on Talkshite telling us that the Villa goal should have not stood as Jack stuck a leg out and their guy caught him and was injured and it was a Chelsea free kick God some of these pundits are a joke
Danny Mills. A non entity as a footballer who never has a good word to day about us. His irrelevance further highlighted by stating Mendy is better than Martinez.
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Superb performance again from Villa, but I’m a little disappointed we didn’t win. Our midfield was brilliant, and obviously credit to McGinn who was everywhere, but for me our best player was Luiz. He really is an outstanding footballer.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
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I think if we'd had Trez and Barkley available for that game we'd have won
Trez available would have meant no El Goalzi
Edit: I assume you meant to come on 👍
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Lampard come across as really bitter after the game. He’s feeling the pressure.
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Danny Mills. Why even give him your time of day?
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Lampard come across as really bitter after the game. He’s feeling the pressure.
He’s a right moody aunt lately. It’s great
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Lampard come across as really bitter after the game. He’s feeling the pressure.
He’s a right moody aunt lately. It’s great
Take a job with limited experience. Twat.
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He was complaining that we scored when one of his players was down injured.
He was down feigning injury you mean. Pathetic.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
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I hope Barkley and Trez are back soon, and Wesley too. We need to give a couple of players a breather, what with all these games coming up.
I worry about muscular injuries if we keep the intensity up as we have been.
Chelsea's squad is something else, their bench would make most other teams first side. We were really good against them..
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After what has been a tumultuous year for everyone, and certainly for the club given where we appeared to be headed, to end it 5th in the PL, 3 points back with 2 games in hand on Leicester in 2nd, with a considerably better GD is simply astonishing.
This is a pretty much perfect summation of where we are. What a season it is so far. Love this team.
It's almost like a Villa fan got a genie's lamp for Xmas last year.
"Congratulations to you, the new owner of this lamp, but due to cutbacks I can grant you just one wish."
"I want Villa to stay in the premier league and be challenging for the European places this time next season."
"Well, err... OK; but a wish like that comes at a cost."
"I don't care, the whole world can go to shit as long as Villa are doing well...."
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I hope Barkley and Trez are back soon, and Wesley too. We need to give a couple of players a breather, what with all these games coming up.
I worry about muscular injuries if we keep the intensity up as we have been.
Chelsea's squad is something else, their bench would make most other teams first side. We were really good against them..
I hope Ross is back Friday. We can at least have another option.
Really does seem like our players would play everyday at the moment. Great, but it’ll cost us eventually. When we’re 3-0 up at Old Trafford we can throw Nakamba and Davis on to give the pro’s a break
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I had reservations about Hause coming in but he’s really exceeded my expectations and the defence looked solid.
For all his poor distribution he more than made up for it with his heading. Chelsea put a lot of crosses into the box and 9 times out of ten he was on the end of it. Great defending.
His defending is excellent and he seems to have bulked out. He is a fuckin unit. They can work on his distribution.
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Excellent draw which I thought at times might even become a win. All those Chelsea fans on social media moaning they hard done by, well that’s finally the Ivanovic handball and Terry Wembley challenges finally evened out.
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Excellent draw which I thought at times might even become a win. All those Chelsea fans on social media moaning they hard done by, well that’s finally the Ivanovic handball and Terry Wembley challenges finally evened out.
Evened out? Nope.
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If Smith was José and AEG was Son, you know everyone in the mainstream media would be wanking off saying that was a perfect performance to get an away draw.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
You'd imagine it would be Benteke but will go for a wildcard and guess Tom Cleverley.
Correct
Well, bugger me. Villa top five with a million games in hand and I get something right. And people said 2020 was shit?
Have to admit I didn’t think Cleverly scored 3 goals in his time with us let alone 3 in 3 games!
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Excellent draw which I thought at times might even become a win. All those Chelsea fans on social media moaning they hard done by, well that’s finally the Ivanovic handball and Terry Wembley challenges finally evened out.
Evened out? Nope.
Not even begun to be close. Though Terry is obviously doing plenty of personal penance at the moment.
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A very good result against a decent team.
They brought on two players costing around 120m pounds and we brought on two graduates from the youth set up. Makes me proud that we are now going toe to toe with the likes of Chelsea and we will keep improving.
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Excellent result. Hard earned! Chelsea are good tonight. We still could have won though!
Bald Franks post match interview is laughable. Numerous mentions of how they had a man down. It was Grealish who was fouled for fuck sake.
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The one thing that works in our favour is that we’re a young side so should recover well from so many games in quick succession. Better than older squads anyway. AEG, Hause, Ramsey and Barkley should have no fatigue concerns either. Man U will be another tough test but we’ll be ready.
I’d stick with Konsa and Hause at the back too. We look very solid defensively.
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Roll on utd...we are a proper football team from Aston these days
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Decent draw, if unexpected. Will be a great Christmas period's work if we get something against Newton Heath on Friday.
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Absolute hilarity over on SHA. Loads of gnashing of teeth about Jack fouling their defender while playing the ball and being body-checked by the same which then devolves into some wacky LSD-induced conspiracy theory about how we are looking to put them out of business by stealing all of their academy coaches and investing in our own women's team. No, i'm not making that up! Comedy gold! ;D
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
You'd imagine it would be Benteke but will go for a wildcard and guess Tom Cleverley.
Correct
Well, bugger me. Villa top five with a million games in hand and I get something right. And people said 2020 was shit?
Have to admit I didn’t think Cleverly scored 3 goals in his time with us let alone 3 in 3 games!
I actually laughed out loud when I read CD’s answer as I thought it was a good joke.
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AEG is the first villa player to score in 3 successive premier league games since ....(no cheating)?
TC23.
Edit: Late as usual but I was reading the thread page by page :-[
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https://youtu.be/1ErqTB34rak
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https://youtu.be/1ErqTB34rak
Extended highlights thanks to Footy.
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I love the fact that this season we can be shwashbuckling and dig in like tonight. Though Traore was weak link first half but he improved his defensive awareness in the second. The defence was great, don’t think Tyrone gets back in on Friday.
Ben chiilwell just said we had one Shot and scored, eh, the goal, Mendy saved from grealish first half, McGinn hit the bar, Ramsey just wide, whatever mr chilwell
Good he can believe that. Obviously since joining the bunch of deluded ****** he has quickly adapted to become one.
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How the fuck is our goal being talked about as a foul 😂
Because we have no right to go to the citadel that is Stamford Bridge and not only score but equalise and deny them a win.
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When I see things like that I'm reminded of Sir Graham saying that nobody complained about Watford when they went from the fourth division to the first. They only complained when they were winning at Old Trafford & Anfield.
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If you want a good laugh, look at the neighbours message boards. SHA have their usual multi page Villa match thread, crying over Super Jack.
But MolMix has to be the most hilariously bitter thread I've seen in a while! Page after page of sanctimonious hang wringing about cheating when they have players diving week in and week out for penalties. Only Man United and the Wolves have had players booked for diving this year. Tsk tsk.
Think there's a bit of a bottom lip out. Much like those bitter tossers from Sandwell "knowing what they are..." so too the tatters from Dinglehampton have believed in "minding the gap" a bit too much. Now natural order in the universe is restored, it tae fair!
I've lived amongst them for 30 years, they have a massive vein busting hard on over us. They didnt mention us for the entire time i've been here, the absolute second they finished above us in 2016 or whatever it was, they were aching to create a rivalry, now normal service ol has been restored they can not handle it. I love it that the only thing they claim us to be is a diving club, they are the biggest diving ****** in the league by a mile. Neto, Adama, Coady, Podence, over the last month or so have been horrendous. Atleast Albion and Blues know what they are. These fuckers have the biggest chip in the country.
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Another very decent performance and it tells you something that we’re a touch disappointed not to win it. McGinn was outstanding.
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After having a very good first half against CP, Traore left Cash exposed by Chilwell, and that is where most of their danger came from. Have to say that technically Chelsea are right at the top but we coped and could have won. Ross B and Trez will give the opportunity to rest a couple. Onwards and upwards.
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I dont know who was better out of McGinn and Luiz. Mount and Kante are fucking superb but both of ours absolutely ran that midfield.
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If you want a good laugh, look at the neighbours message boards. SHA have their usual multi page Villa match thread, crying over Super Jack.
But MolMix has to be the most hilariously bitter thread I've seen in a while! Page after page of sanctimonious hang wringing about cheating when they have players diving week in and week out for penalties. Only Man United and the Wolves have had players booked for diving this year. Tsk tsk.
Think there's a bit of a bottom lip out. Much like those bitter tossers from Sandwell "knowing what they are..." so too the tatters from Dinglehampton have believed in "minding the gap" a bit too much. Now natural order in the universe is restored, it tae fair!
I've lived amongst them for 30 years, they have a massive vein busting hard on over us. They didnt mention us for the entire time i've been here, the absolute second they finished above us in 2016 or whatever it was, they were aching to create a rivalry, now normal service ol has been restored they can not handle it. I love it that the only thing they claim us to be is a diving club, they are the biggest diving ****** in the league by a mile. Neto, Adama, Coady, Podence, over the last month or so have been horrendous. Atleast Albion and Blues know what they are. These fuckers have the biggest chip in the country.
Modern day Coventry City, bunch of weird fuckers.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
Some of his comments took my breath away.
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https://youtu.be/1ErqTB34rak
All I hear on this commentary time and time again "Mason Mount es un jugador muy bueno"
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Re Cleverely
“ On 25 April 2015, he scored his first goal for the club in a 3–2 defeat to Manchester City.[88] He scored again in the following match, a 3–2 win at home to Everton.[89] He scored for the third match in a row for the first time in a 1–0 win at home to West Ham United.[90]”
I don’t remember any of that tbh.
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I remembered him scoring two so guessed he might have got three and I had forgotten one. I assumed the poster wouldn't be asking the question if it was someone obvious like Benteke or even Gabby.
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https://youtu.be/1ErqTB34rak
All I hear on this commentary time and time again "Mason Mount es un jugador muy bueno"
Strange, all I heard on the commentary was "Mason Mount es los cojones del perro."
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We look like that team that you always want your team to play like.
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Strange, all I heard on the commentary was "Mason Mount es los cojones del perro."
Was Southgate doing the commentary ?
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We look like that team that you always want your team to play like.
Over the years and certainly the many years we’ve been utter shit we’ve all seen teams that we thought we’d love our Villa to be like. It’s great that it’s now us.
I was thinking this earlier. Specific to this site. A good many of us have been on here through all the ups and mostly downs of the past 15+ years. It’s just great to begin to see the other side of it. We have a long way to go, but it feels for the first time since probably around 2007 that we might do something really good again.
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We look like that team that you always want your team to play like.
That's it Lee, well said. A team that does not look out of place at all in the top 6-8
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2 particular things I noticed: Chelsea were pressing much more assertively than in recent games, making our game a lot tougher.
The ref really set out his stall early, and it paid off - in terms of it being a better game and in terms of not stop-starting the game for minor / ambiguous infringements.
Villa were generally excellent: although Chelsea were clearly overloading their left side, I thought Traore did okay, Cash did really well and McGinn was outstanding.
Oh, and isn't it wonderful to have such a commanding keeper?!
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Very true Mr E, I also thought that Konsa and Hause looked better balanced as a central pairing, on current form Mings may struggle to get back in the team.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
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Yes they were strong down our right side but lets not lose sight of the fact that Chillwell is the best attacking left back in the country and cost £50m.
Thought we looked jaded at times but still created chances to win it.
Amazon and especially Beglin so biased - thankfully Townsend and Le-Saux were fairer in thier analysis.
We have Mings (who should warm the bench for a while) Barkley, Trez to come back.
Buy one or 2 in jan and we can hold our own in the top 6
Who would have thought that 5 months ago
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It’s a really good point. Again, we’ve gone toe to toe with one of the ‘big’ teams and come away with something. I loved watching the battle in midfield between Kante, Mount, McGinn and Douglas Luiz and I think we just about edged it.
McGinn was superb and his energy was unbelievable. He also followed it up with a great post-match interview.
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Jim Beglin, if memory serves me correctly he was the co-commentator in the CCC semi 2nd leg vs Tranmere. He was bitter then too, maybe he's still upset we knocked them out that day.
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Jim Beglin, if memory serves me correctly he was the co-commentator in the CCC semi 2nd leg vs Tranmere. He was bitter then too, maybe he's still upset we knocked them out that day.
Kevin Keegan was the second commentator on tv and he was full of praise for us. He also did the final and the Inter Milan Phil King game. In the Inter game he was extremely biased hoping Villa would win being an English team. Begin I think did the radio coverage on 5 live?
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Very true Mr E, I also thought that Konsa and Hause looked better balanced as a central pairing, on current form Mings may struggle to get back in the team.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Konsa and Hause have been really strong as a defensive pair but our distribution from the back loses a lot when Mings is absent.
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I dont get the Beglin bias, what did he actually say that's making everyone so sensitive? His most notable contribution was his revelation that he broke his leg from a hop-ball to which his co-commentator could only reply "Really?".
He also did that slightly lazy thing of his research and insight on Villa being confined to the last time he saw us in the flesh (Burnley) rather than mentioning our play and tactics in the games since then.
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Chelsea fans think Beglin hates them based on his comments yesterday. Fans dislike anything other than praise.
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Just been staring at the league table for a few minutes. We are 5th with games in hand. Unbelievable!
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I dont get the Beglin bias, what did he actually say that's making everyone so sensitive? His most notable contribution was his revelation that he broke his leg from a hop-ball to which his co-commentator could only reply "Really?".
He also did that slightly lazy thing of his research and insight on Villa being confined to the last time he saw us in the flesh (Burnley) rather than mentioning our play and tactics in the games since then.
Agree.
The only beglin bias was his love for McGinn second half!
He was on about him all the time being a joy to watch
Rightly so
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Why are the media making so much of the "controversy" around our goal. Would there have been a peep if it was the other way round? To me Grealish plays the ball but sees Christiansen and know knows a collision is inevitable and so avoids planting his left leg. He makes no claim for a foul and gets up asap
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Thought Le Saux was good in his half time summary
McGinn was fantastic and an excellent point Hopefully onwards and upwards
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Fat Fwank complaining in today’s paper about a hand ball in the build up to our goal, cockerney twat.
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I dont get the Beglin bias, what did he actually say that's making everyone so sensitive? His most notable contribution was his revelation that he broke his leg from a hop-ball to which his co-commentator could only reply "Really?".
He also did that slightly lazy thing of his research and insight on Villa being confined to the last time he saw us in the flesh (Burnley) rather than mentioning our play and tactics in the games since then.
His commentary was weighted towards the hosts, their trials and tribulations, formation etc etc. As a colour commentator he should be more balanced but that is always difficult if you know a lot about one side in favour of the other and if he does, as you suggest, he's failing at his job.
I quite like Carragher and Neville as pundits but when they cover their own teams this comes to the fore which is why I believe they shouldn't be scheduled for those games.
The only time this is acceptable is when you are on a regional commentary when it is your job to to slant towards one team or another.
It is a failure of the broadcaster to let this pass and indeed Sky removed Thompson from Liverpool games on Soccer Saturday for just this reason. He couldn't do the job asked of him. Beglin was similar last night.
Oh, and his reference to the foul possibly ruling out our goal showed his ignorance of the phasing of a game, and sounded desperate.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
Some of his comments took my breath away.
Clappy thing.
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Fat Fwank complaining in today’s paper about a hand ball in the build up to our goal, cockerney twat.
where was the handball ? was it after the attempted foul by Christensen on Grealish ?
UTV
The Doc
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It's so good to watch an attacking team again isn't it? I'm so pleased with how things are going right now, it feels like we've got our Villa back. We more than held our own against a squad worth over £800m. Our academy graduate's confidence in his first attempt just after coming on was something else too; not sure about anyone else but I started leaning over to help it in!
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Just watched the football show slot on SSN. Danny Mills and Gabby as the guests. Mills banging on about VAR not doing it’s job with the Grealish supposed foul on Christiansen. Gabby of course saying there was no foul. Mills doesn’t like us much. I’m okay with that because he means nothing to me.
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I really cant see that at all, Jack got to the ball first, Christiansen tried to block him.
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Very true Mr E, I also thought that Konsa and Hause looked better balanced as a central pairing, on current form Mings may struggle to get back in the team.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Konsa and Hause have been really strong as a defensive pair but our distribution from the back loses a lot when Mings is absent.
Totally agree, they're a strong pairing, but Minus comes straight back in alongside Konsa. Surely not long before Konsa gets an England call up, such a classy centre back, what a bargain he's been.
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Just watched the football show slot on SSN. Danny Mills and Gabby as the guests. Mills banging on about VAR not doing it’s job with the Grealish supposed foul on Christiansen. Gabby of course saying there was no foul. Mills doesn’t like us much. I’m okay with that because he means nothing to me.
There wasn’t nothing in the challenge whatsoever. 6 of one, half dozen of the other. People trying to make something out of it are just trying to be controversial and justify their jobs.
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Why are the media making so much of the "controversy" around our goal. Would there have been a peep if it was the other way round? To me Grealish plays the ball but sees Christiansen and know knows a collision is inevitable and so avoids planting his left leg. He makes no claim for a foul and gets up asap
I don't think the media are overdoing it. It was top table game and it is a valid discussion on Grealish/Christensen incident. Chelsea fans are not complaining about Jack they are hammering their player for being a total numpty.
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Why are the media making so much of the "controversy" around our goal. Would there have been a peep if it was the other way round? To me Grealish plays the ball but sees Christiansen and know knows a collision is inevitable and so avoids planting his left leg. He makes no claim for a foul and gets up asap
I don't think the media are overdoing it. It was top table game and it is a valid discussion on Grealish/Christiansen incident. Chelsea fans are not complaining about Jack they are hammering their player for being a total numpty.
Yes, to their credit I've mainly seen Westenders getting after Christiansen rather than having a go at Jack. I think the aftermath - when Christiansen got up and looked pretty sheepish - basically confirmed what had happened.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
Some of his comments took my breath away.
Clappy thing.
I AMA doughnut
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Just watched the football show slot on SSN. Danny Mills and Gabby as the guests. Mills banging on about VAR not doing it’s job with the Grealish supposed foul on Christiansen. Gabby of course saying there was no foul. Mills doesn’t like us much. I’m okay with that because he means nothing to me.
Does Vienna?
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I was staring at the screen for a good minute after the game when a guy in a Villa tracksuit was chatting to two Chelsea players. Suddenly dawned on me that it was Bjorn Engels with fellow Francophiles.
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I dont get the Beglin bias, what did he actually say that's making everyone so sensitive? His most notable contribution was his revelation that he broke his leg from a hop-ball to which his co-commentator could only reply "Really?".
He also did that slightly lazy thing of his research and insight on Villa being confined to the last time he saw us in the flesh (Burnley) rather than mentioning our play and tactics in the games since then.
I agree with you in beglin. There are times when I get so annoyed with the bias of the commentators or studio pundits. But last night wasn’t one of them, I thought beglin went on about the potential grealish foul a little bit, but didn’t really over egg it, otherwise I thought he was ok and he made McGinn MoM, I thought McGinn was brilliant but he could of made other choices, so I thought he was ok. Le Saux and Townsend were good pundits I thought
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Very true Mr E, I also thought that Konsa and Hause looked better balanced as a central pairing, on current form Mings may struggle to get back in the team.
Happy New Year to you and yours.
Hope all's well with you, sir!
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Why are the media making so much of the "controversy" around our goal. Would there have been a peep if it was the other way round? To me Grealish plays the ball but sees Christiansen and know knows a collision is inevitable and so avoids planting his left leg. He makes no claim for a foul and gets up asap
Grauniad online says it the way it was: a non-foul.
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Konsa and Hause have been really strong as a defensive pair but our distribution from the back loses a lot when Mings is absent.
Totally agree, they're a strong pairing, but Minus comes straight back in alongside Konsa. Surely not long before Konsa gets an England call up, such a classy centre back, what a bargain he's been.
That'll be a Plus.
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Just watched the football show slot on SSN. Danny Mills and Gabby as the guests. Mills banging on about VAR not doing it’s job with the Grealish supposed foul on Christiansen. Gabby of course saying there was no foul. Mills doesn’t like us much. I’m okay with that because he means nothing to me.
Does Vienna?
That means nothing to me.
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Just watched the football show slot on SSN. Danny Mills and Gabby as the guests. Mills banging on about VAR not doing it’s job with the Grealish supposed foul on Christiansen. Gabby of course saying there was no foul. Mills doesn’t like us much. I’m okay with that because he means nothing to me.
I saw that show and Mills definitely has an anti Villa attitude. When Gabby said we were due a bit of good fortune from VAR Mills brought up the Sheffield United ghost goal from last season the tosser. Gabby could have responded with the numerous times VAR has gone against us but he failed which was a bit of a let down. I think Ian Taylor would be a much better bet to fight our corner but he doesn't seem to get much media work these days.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
Some of his comments took my breath away.
Clappy thing.
I AMA doughnut
? Don't get it!
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The one thing Beglin managed to say in various forms 2-3 times that I kept having to correct....
He kept saying something along the lines of ‘The Villa player just getting to the ball first in order to draw the foul’ (not just about Grealish). So, put another way, that’ll be the Chelsea player getting there late & committing a foul then?
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I dont get the Beglin bias, what did he actually say that's making everyone so sensitive? His most notable contribution was his revelation that he broke his leg from a hop-ball to which his co-commentator could only reply "Really?".
He also did that slightly lazy thing of his research and insight on Villa being confined to the last time he saw us in the flesh (Burnley) rather than mentioning our play and tactics in the games since then.
I agree with you in beglin. There are times when I get so annoyed with the bias of the commentators or studio pundits. But last night wasn’t one of them, I thought beglin went on about the potential grealish foul a little bit, but didn’t really over egg it, otherwise I thought he was ok and he made McGinn MoM, I thought McGinn was brilliant but he could of made other choices, so I thought he was ok. Le Saux and Townsend were good pundits I thought
I think he did over-egg it, they got input from Clattenberg who said there was nothing in it and the goal was correct and then 2 minutes later Beglin started talking about how lucky we were again. I annoyed me at the time because it created a controversy that didn't need to exist and lots of people are now clinging to it as proof that we cheated and didn't deserve the point, which is bullshit. The reality is Grealish passed it on and Christiansen just stepped into his path meaning there was no option but for them to run into each other, Jack got straight up and carried on, not his fault Christiansen sat sulking for 15-20seconds as both Terry and Sherwood (amongst many) have pointed out.
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I saw loads of Leeds fans all over Twitter moaning about us scoring, with a Chelsea man down. Apparently it was exactly the same scenario as occurred at Elland Road in the Championship. Efforts to inform them that the problem was that they pretended to knock it out of play before actually going on to score sadly fell on deaf ears.
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I saw loads of Leeds fans all over Twitter moaning about us scoring, with a Chelsea man down. Apparently it was exactly the same scenario as occurred at Elland Road in the Championship. Efforts to inform them that the problem was that they pretended to knock it out of play before actually going on to score sadly fell on deaf ears.
Along with the fact that at the time they told us that you should ‘play to the whistle’ but now that we do that isn’t right either.
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
Some of his comments took my breath away.
Clappy thing.
I AMA doughnut
? Don't get it!
Ich bin ein Berliner.
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I saw loads of Leeds fans all over Twitter moaning about us scoring, with a Chelsea man down. Apparently it was exactly the same scenario as occurred at Elland Road in the Championship. Efforts to inform them that the problem was that they pretended to knock it out of play before actually going on to score sadly fell on deaf ears.
The player in question for Chelsea was not injured
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Danny Mills in having controversial opinions for money shocker. Why oh why anyone listens to Talkshite I have no idea.
Anyway cracking performance from the lads today, really enjoyed the tenacity and willingness to not be dictated to by a talented team. What we learnt is that we’re talented too though as Amazon Primes whole agenda seemed to be about Frank and his squad as usual we got no credit for what we did. That’ll change soon enough....
Townsend Le Saux very complimentary about us. Berlin was a bit of a Dick but I thought the coverage was fair.
Some of his comments took my breath away.
Clappy thing.
I AMA doughnut
? Don't get it!
I feel the need, the need for speed
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Jim Beglin did make me laugh yesterday. " I thought that was a foul". Referee waves play on and Villa score. VAR don't get involved and the goal stands. They then have Mark Clattenburg explain why it wasn't a foul and the goal stands.
That's three referees that have seen it and decided it's a goal.
Jim Beglin: " I thought that was a foul".
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Jim Beglin did make me laugh yesterday. " I thought that was a foul". Referee waves play on and Villa score. VAR don't get involved and the goal stands. They then have Mark Clattenburg explain why it wasn't a foul and the goal stands.
That's three referees that have seen it and decided it's a goal.
Jim Beglin: " I thought that was a foul".
He seemed very anti Jack and Villa didn’t he. Jack had the ball and was fouled. A minute later we scored.
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The centre half leaves his leg out to stop the one two, then makes out he’s injured in an effort to avoid a booking. I can’t believe there is/was any debate about it
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I saw loads of Leeds fans all over Twitter moaning about us scoring, with a Chelsea man down. Apparently it was exactly the same scenario as occurred at Elland Road in the Championship. Efforts to inform them that the problem was that they pretended to knock it out of play before actually going on to score sadly fell on deaf ears.
Along with the fact that at the time they told us that you should ‘play to the whistle’ but now that we do that isn’t right either.
Also, a lot of people seem to have (deliberately?) forgotten that that game at Leeds was a dead rubber. As admirable as Bielsa’s gesture was, I don’t think anyone really thinks he’d have done that in a game that had something riding on it.
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The centre half leaves his leg out to stop the one two, then makes out he’s injured in an effort to avoid a booking. I can’t believe there is/was any debate about it
That's how I saw it as well, he absolutely intended to block Jack off, how the contact happened doesn't matter, it was caused by him initiating it.
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Another pile of ordure from the mouth of Jim "I think the goalie should have done better there" Beglin.
Instead of slagging Jack off for an imaginary foul, this expert football pundit could have focussed on how Jack git up and made a run into Chelsea's box, distracting and occupying the defender who then left Anwar free to score.
But no, that would have meant that the tosser would have to have shown some insight and understanding of what was happening on the pitch. Something he's never done in all the time I've heard him commenting.
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There was a comment early on about Jack going down easily after he appealed for the throw in.
Then another comment saying the ref had made it clear that he was not falling for it.
The blokes an idiot.
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There was a comment early on about Jack going down easily after he appealed for the throw in.
Then another comment saying the ref had made it clear that he was not falling for it.
The blokes an idiot.
Yes that's what started me shouting at the screen. I think he said something like "it's known that Grealish goes down too easy and the referee has shown h e is having none of it," seconds after Jack had been clattered from behind for the second time in a minute.
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I wasn't too bothered by Beglin but he did try to invent something out of nothing re the pre-goal clash. Whilst also noticeably agreeing immediately that there was no offside for the Chelsea goal, with no cross lines to prove it. It was certainly a lot closer than he was making out, but hey it's Chelsea let's not look too closely shall we?
My Chelsea supporting mate thought we played really well and ere well worth the draw and loved McGinn's long range shot - strange to think some were calling for him to be dropped a couple of weeks ago.
Defensively Hause and Konsa look solid but we do lose something going forward without Mings.
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After a bit f DIY Stockley Park, which admittedly is not an exact science, I reckon this was surely close enough to have warranted a lot more consideration than it got, given the recent offsides against Ollie.
(https://i.ibb.co/TmKVrKL/Offside.png) (https://ibb.co/TmKVrKL)
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That confirms my thought that it looked offside, it's close enough to get the benefit of the doubt so no major complaints from me but it's frustrating that the same approach wasn't used for the 2 Watkins goals.
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I was thinking this earlier. Specific to this site. A good many of us have been on here through all the ups and mostly downs of the past 15+ years. It’s just great to begin to see the other side of it. We have a long way to go, but it feels for the first time since probably around 2007 that we might do something really good again.
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Yet again, absolutely thrilled to watch this group of players; SJM - MOTM with a quite breathtaking performance.
The point that you make though TV, is one that has crossed my mind several times this season.
Over the last decade, all Villa fans have suffered and there have been a few false dawns along the way.
Combine this with some of the patronising conversations I've had with relatives/colleagues when every thing about the club seemed shite and, in my darkest moments, I really feared for our future.
Who could have truly imagined that we would be finishing this strangest of strange years in such style and with such hope and positivity about the future of our great club.
Eight clean sheets in fourteen games, FFS, eight! It's a beautiful thing; let's enjoy the ride.
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After a bit f DIY Stockley Park, which admittedly is not an exact science, I reckon this was surely close enough to have warranted a lot more consideration than it got, given the recent offsides against Ollie.
(https://i.ibb.co/TmKVrKL/Offside.png) (https://ibb.co/TmKVrKL)
I’m glad it didn’t. It should not even be a consideration to call this offside. I hope they’ve had a re-think and been told to use a bit of common sense. I know it won’t help our recent goals ruled out. We’re not the only ones, there’s been some right stinkers for most teams so far.
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After a bit f DIY Stockley Park, which admittedly is not an exact science, I reckon this was surely close enough to have warranted a lot more consideration than it got, given the recent offsides against Ollie.
(https://i.ibb.co/TmKVrKL/Offside.png) (https://ibb.co/TmKVrKL)
I’m glad it didn’t. It should not even be a consideration to call this offside. I hope they’ve had a re-think and been told to use a bit of common sense. I know it won’t help our recent goals ruled out. We’re not the only ones, there’s been some right stinkers for most teams so far.
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Hundred percent agree. I don’t want this to be called offside, and I don’t Want footie supporters getting drawn into this kind of debate. It’s not different to Watkins goal against West Brom, that is true, but doesn’t mean that two wrongs make a right.
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That confirms my thought that it looked offside, it's close enough to get the benefit of the doubt so no major complaints from me but it's frustrating that the same approach wasn't used for the 2 Watkins goals.
I'm sure I heard the commentator say last night that the arm is no longer being considered in these decisions, like it was for Ollie Watkins at West Ham. Haven't seen or heard anything official about that, so was wondering when that decision was made.
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After a bit f DIY Stockley Park, which admittedly is not an exact science, I reckon this was surely close enough to have warranted a lot more consideration than it got, given the recent offsides against Ollie.
(https://i.ibb.co/TmKVrKL/Offside.png) (https://ibb.co/TmKVrKL)
Without wanting to pee on anyone's chips, the line's not parallel with the penalty area one. If you look to the far side of the penalty area, the distance is probably double that on the near side.
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After a bit f DIY Stockley Park, which admittedly is not an exact science, I reckon this was surely close enough to have warranted a lot more consideration than it got, given the recent offsides against Ollie.
(https://i.ibb.co/TmKVrKL/Offside.png) (https://ibb.co/TmKVrKL)
Ha ha, nice one! It's as least as accurate as they manage!
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I drew the line directly on top of the penalty area line and moved it across without tilting it. It didn't look quite right so I adjusted it at the top to make that side nearer to the penalty box edge. So if anything it's skewed the other way.