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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Dave on November 20, 2014, 12:17:56 PM
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Monday 24th November, 8pm.
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I'm going to this one so 0-0 or 0-1 (pen). :-(
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4-0 loss
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Can this be moved to the right place and a poll added?
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1-3
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This is such a nailed on away banker that it will undoubtedly finish 3-0 to us.
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Us 1 Them 1
Can't see them winning five league games in a row. Can't see us scoring more than one without Benteke.
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a Villa win please, I don't care how :)
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I just want this seemingly never-ending feeling of impending doom to bugger off and not come back! Make it happen, Villa, please.
3-1 us.
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A much needed 2-1 win. Peter Broadbent and Lionel Martin in front of a huge crowd.
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Can this be moved to the right place and a poll added?
Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine »Heroes & Villains»Match Threads & Player Ratings
It is in the right place - that forum is the archive for once a thread is no longer relevant in the main forum.
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Can this be moved to the right place and a poll added?
Heroes & Villains, the Aston Villa fanzine »Heroes & Villains»Match Threads & Player Ratings
It is in the right place - that forum is the archive for once a thread is no longer relevant in the main forum.
Sorry - my mistake.
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1-0 home win.
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Senderos, Vlaar & Baker out....Hutton back apparently....that'll be the excuse for this week :-(
Wonder if Herd or Lowton will be pushed alongside Clark so he can continue to alienate Okore?
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An early goal against, and I can see this turning nasty.
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3-0 Southampton. They look much better than us at the moment. I worry about the state of our backline against them too.
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------------Guzan------------
Hutton okore Clark cissoko
Cleverly Westwood Sanchez Nzogbia
------- Weimann benteke---------
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Benteke is still banned I think Sillhillvilla
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------------Guzan------------
Hutton okore Clark cissoko
Cleverly Westwood Sanchez Nzogbia
------- Weimann benteke---------
Benteke still suspended
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Bloody hell forgot, guess gabby plays then.
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A lucky 1-3
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1-2 loss, boo
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I just can't see how we are going to score a goal in this one.
I'd be delighted with a 0-0
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They will have lots of the ball because we will allow them to have lots of the ball. They will score more than us. We might score if we can get a shot on goal. I fear the obvious.
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Without benteke, a draw! 1-1
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I wouldn't fancy us against anyone with the defence we'll be putting out. I wouldn't fancy us to score with the pitiful attack we have available. It'll be a stroll in the park for Southampton.
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2-0 Villa, piece of piss.
UTV
LWT
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1-1 Draw for me.
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I can not see us not conceding given
1) Southampton's recent form and goalscoring
2)The defence we are likely to field
With that in mind best case for us is a draw...any neutral betting on this would have this as banker away win.
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2-0 Villa, piece of piss.
UTV
LWT
Its on Sky, not London Weekend Television
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2-1 win, they're flying we're crap nailed on win.
Weimann & NZog to score.
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https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152671274218113&set=a.457159343112.236700.720028112&type=1&theater
0-0 for me but hope we can win it
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1-1
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Alan Hutton is back for Villa's home clash with Southampton on Monday.
The right-back missed the last three matches against QPR, Tottenham and West Ham with an ankle problem.
But the reliable defender is available again for the Saints clash.
However, centre-halves Philippe Senderos, Ron Vlaar and Nathan Baker are all set to miss out.
That leaves Jores Okore and Ciaran Clark as the available players in that position, with Chris Herd also on hand after returning from his loan spell at Bolton.
Paul Lambert said: "Alan is fine. He is back fit and has been training this week. He will be fine.
"We have one or two injuries.
"Philippe is going to be out. I am not happy with what's happened to him. He only played six minutes for us at West Ham and then goes away with Switzerland and trains a full session and pulls up with his calf.
"If they'd looked at the situation - he's not played for a month. That's what I am not happy with.
"I thought it should have been managed better. There should be a protocol. He's just back and was feeling good at the West Ham game.
"Ron is struggling with his calf injury. It's different from his last one. But he got hurt in the game. You can be a bit more at ease with that.
"Nathan is certainly struggling as well.
"It's not great that we have lost three centre-halves. But the lads who play will give us everything they have got.
"Ciaran played [for Republic of Ireland v USA] and Roy said he did well. Jores is just coming back from an injury. He is ready to play.
"He was unfortunate with his injury. He came here and started really well and then got his bad injury. But he's ready to go.
"Chris Herd's back too. He's fit again as well. So you've still got options there."
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LWT = south bank show .
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So we have a weakened defence, surely the best form of defence would be to attack....oh shit.
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At 9/1, 0-0 is tempting.
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Nice to see him talking about Okore in a manner which suggests he might give him a feckin' game.
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I've a sneaky feeling that Okore will still be on the bench and either Lowton or Herd will play CB. I hope not. I want to see Jores playing, but knowing Lambert he'll do something daft.
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Beat me to it Supertom. Even with Baker, Vlaar and Senderos out Okore probably still won't get a game - Lambert will probably put Herd in there just to spite him. Crocked defence, no Delph in midfield, no Benteke up front, can't see anything but an easy win for them. A goal at the Holte End for us would be nice but given we've only scored 3 at Villa Park all season I'm not holding my breath
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They don't need to win, they don't have a manager in danger of being sacked, they don't have a very expensive striker failing to score.
No Vlaar, Swiss Phil or lumberjack Baker will see a makeshift back four perform defensive miracles or fold...
0-0 or 0-4 (and let the fun begin!)
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Think Lambert will play Hutton at centre back alongside Clark keeping Lowton at right back, everything points to a comfortable away win but think we will grind out another point.
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A much needed 2-1 win. Peter Broadbent and Lionel Martin in front of a huge crowd.
No chance Ron!
They're both injured!
The players, not the crowd!
;-)
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Please play Okore and let him play well.
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Villa win.
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0-2,3,4,5,6 ...? fuck knows but it could get ugly
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Think Lambert will play Hutton at centre back alongside Clark keeping Lowton at right back, everything points to a comfortable away win but think we will grind out another point.
Hutton at centre half? That's a bold prediction.
Decent in the air I suppose, but I remember Carew skinning him in a Norway v Scotland World Cup match when he was forced to play there after someone got sent off.
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Would like to see Lamberk put a little faith in Grealish and go for a 4-2-3-1. We don't need that crappy 3 man midfield which doesn't work. Sit Sanchez and one of the other two deep, play Grealish, Zogbia and Gabby ahead, then Weimann or Bent up top. Go for it, try and show a bit of guile. If we're gonna play Gabby, have him facing the opposition defence and tasked with just running at them all day. None of that dropping off to try and link up play, or playing with his back to goal. He's shit at it.
Get him committing players and winning freekicks.
Play Grealish off the front man, let him drift. He's 19 now. We should have no qualms about putting him in a game like this if he's good enough. If he were 16-17 still I could understand the hesitation. Chuck him in.
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Can only see a comfortable Southampton win and perhaps it will end Lambert's reign?
No idea where a potential goal might come from for us.
------------Guzan
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho
----------Sanchez----------
-----Westwood, Richardson
----------Cleverley
------Gabby, Weimann-------
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As much as I am desperate to see Okore playing again, I worry that if we are on the end of a tonking, it will knock him back a bit.
He is very inexperienced at this level, and getting over that horrible injury.
He should be brought back in when he can play with an experienced partner, not thrown in when it's totally inappropriate.
Then again, beggars can't be choosers, I guess
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Can only see a comfortable Southampton win and perhaps it will end Lambert's reign?
No idea where a potential goal might come from for us.
------------Guzan
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho
----------Sanchez----------
-----Westwood, Richardson
----------Cleverley
------Gabby, Weimann-------
What a terrible looking line up.
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Well with no fit centre halves, not including our enigma Okore, no fit Delph, Benteke banned and the most likely attempt to play TC out of position I'm pretty confident.
Confident we'll lose 2 - 0
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A much needed 2-1 win. Peter Broadbent and Lionel Martin in front of a huge crowd.
Little Davy Rudge will tear them apart down the right wing.
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We need to be way better going forward as with the makeshift defence we're likely to put out next to no chance of keeping a clean sheet. Although I thought that about West Ham.
2-2.
I reckon Southampton in their present form will come to win and attack us so we will get space and hopefully we can produce a final ball on occasions.
Hopefully the international break will have disrupted Southampton a bit as they probably have more international players away than we did which is a sorry state of affairs.
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We will annihilate them 6-1 at least. A Sunderland moment...
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A much needed 2-1 win. Peter Broadbent and Lionel Martin in front of a huge crowd.
Little Davy Rudge will tear them apart down the right wing.
I was at that game with my Dad Bob Kirk (sadly no longer with us) 59, 000 inside Villa Park, deafening noise inside the stadium, what a night.
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We will annihilate them 6-1 at least. A Sunderland moment...
I trust that you'll be a long way from Villa Park then?
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Is 16 miles enough?
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Lawro has predicted a 1-0 win for us. The signs are ominous.
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Lawro has predicted a 1-0 win for us. The signs are ominous.
Mark Lawrenson is an imbecile.
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Lawro has predicted a 1-0 win for us. The signs are ominous.
Mark Lawrenson is an imbecile.
I don't think he's right, but it makes a change from the lazy "predict the favourite to win 2-0" that he does for 95% of the time.
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Is 16 miles enough?
No Leeg.
No.
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Watching it with a Southampton supporting mate. It will be tue morning here so we are going to watch it at the pig n whistle in town on way to work. He suggested it and when I agreed, I said winner buys the breakfasts, such is my confidence in our home form at the moment.
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Lawro prediction and Phil Dowd reffing. That's a very dangerous combination.
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Is 16 miles enough?
No Leeg.
No.
I can make it 18 if I go into the garden.
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Is 16 miles enough?
No Leeg.
No.
I can make it 18 if I go into the garden.
bloody snobs and their 2 mile long gardens
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I never said it was my garden. My garden is small.
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I never said it was my garden. My garden is small.
bloody snobs claiming their 2 mile long gardens are too small.
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Yeah, who are you, Mylene Klass or something?
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Yeah, who are you, Mylene Klass or something?
Who?
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She was giving Ed Miliband pelters the other day about the mansion tax. Apparently the poor dear couldn't buy anything bigger than a shed in London for two million quid. Bless.
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Is 16 miles enough?
No Leeg.
No.
I can make it 18 if I go into the garden.
bloody snobs and their 2 mile long gardens
Leeg is not a snob.
He just happens to have a long thing (comparatively) where he grows stuff!!!!
And a knack of bringing us worse luck than we've already got!
In fact, I put the last 4 years of shite completely down to the influence of Legion.
It's the only reason/excuse that makes sense.
To me.
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Home win. No idea of the score but we will win.
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Arse handed to us. Then, the big game at Burnley.
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No goals. Two shots on target.
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Aston Villa 3-2 Southampton.
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I haven't seen Southampton at all yet this season bar the odd highlights. Are they playing in any particularly different manner than last season?
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I haven't seen Southampton at all yet this season bar the odd highlights. Are they playing in any particularly different manner than last season?
They seem to have a little more cutting edge I suppose. Pelle has an occasional touch of class that Lambert didn't, though does a similar job otherwise. Their defence actually looks better without Lovren, who has struggled at Liverpool somewhat.
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Is their main method of attack to pull people as wide as possible and look for full backs to drive into the space created, with lots of balls going into the box or has Koeman mixed it up?
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Is their main method of attack to pull people as wide as possible and look for full backs to drive into the space created, with lots of balls going into the box or has Koeman mixed it up?
I've not seen too much of them but it looks like there is a mix. Their fullbacks definitely play a key role though. Bertrand looks very confident now and Clyne of course has now broken into Englands starting 11.
If we get a result we'll have done very well because they know how to score and they don't concede many at all. Best defence in the league by a distance.
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They've only played two top half sides though and lost them both, but it will be interesting to see how Lambert sets us up.
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A much needed 2-1 win. Peter Broadbent and Lionel Martin in front of a huge crowd.
Little Davy Rudge will tear them apart down the right wing.
Dave Rudge tears past Mcgraths violent lunge along the Trinity touchline and crosses at speed in front of the Holte. 59,000 hearts in their mouths. Brian Godfrey dummies and Lionel Martin arrives to sweep it in. The Holte errupts, and by god it did erupt. A 2-1 victory. The Doc's finest Cup victory.
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They've only played two top half sides though and lost them both
I see what you're saying, and it should be a good argument for us winning, but, unfortunately, it ain't.
but it will be interesting to see how Lambert sets us up.
Bet it isn't
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Seeing as the usual wank formation and tactics will see us getting owned how about this:
Guzan
Cissokho Clark Okore Hutton
Sanchez Lowton (Herd/Richardson)
Grealish Westwood Agbonlahor
Bent (Weimann)
Potential alternatives in brackets. I really would like to see Darren Bent given a start
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If we can keep the margin below 4 goals it will be a moral victory.
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Are they really that good that people think we may get beat 4, 5 or 6 by them?
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They've only played two top half sides though and lost them both, but it will be interesting to see how Lambert sets us up.
Don't we already know the answer to that !
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Seeing as the usual wank formation and tactics will see us getting owned how about this:
Guzan
Cissokho Clark Okore Hutton
Sanchez Lowton (Herd/Richardson)
Grealish Westwood Agbonlahor
Bent (Weimann)
Potential alternatives in brackets. I really would like to see Darren Bent given a start
That's the sort of line up we reserve for cup games against division 1 or 2 teams, and still lose
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Lawro vs Citizen Khan(Aston Villa fan Adil Ray)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29993756
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As the Clueless one is still in charge i can't see anything but the usual approach and struggle Us 0 Them 2.
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They've only played two top half sides though and lost them both, but it will be interesting to see how Lambert sets us up.
We should have played them at the start of the season when were 2nd!
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What has Cissokho got to do to get dropped?! His defending is limited and his crossing technique of 'twat it a good'un' has already been rumbled. I'd quite like to see Richardson get a chance there.
When we have such a porous defence, all of them should be under scrutiny.
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Why would you drop anybody from a defence that has just kept a clean sheet?
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1-4
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Ads, because of the six games prior to that. If we're so reluctant to score, we need to address the defence.
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What has Cissokho got to do to get dropped?! His defending is limited and his crossing technique of 'twat it a good'un' has already been rumbled. I'd quite like to see Richardson get a chance there.
When we have such a porous defence, all of them should be under scrutiny.
He's definitely dipped a bit over the last few games, but I actually thought he made a decent start with us - I also was surprised at the quality of the crosses he whipped in early on in the season too!
Of course, he's been here a while now, so that, along with his general defensive qualities, appears to have been coached out of him, or at least 'left uncoached' (which I believe is what happens to the team in general, actually).
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Seeing as the usual wank formation and tactics will see us getting owned how about this:
Guzan
Cissokho Clark Okore Hutton
Sanchez Lowton (Herd/Richardson)
Grealish Westwood Agbonlahor
Bent (Weimann)
Potential alternatives in brackets. I really would like to see Darren Bent given a start
That's the sort of line up we reserve for cup games against division 1 or 2 teams, and still lose
Maybe. Its probably no better than what Lambert is putting out, im just desperate to see an upturn in fortunes and really think it needs a drastic shake up. It needs us to think out side of the box and do the unexpected. If Lambert came out and said it hasnt been working so we are going to change it and try something different I think the fans would allow him the time to do so.
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May as well play the old W-M then.
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Too many key players missing for us. 2-0 Southampton win
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Given that I am coming over and have not seen us win at home in 4 seasons now, I fear the kiss of death I bring will once more follow me.
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1-2. By the time we play on Monday, we could be in the bottom 3 if results go against us.....
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Set ourselves up right we can win this game. & therein leith the main problem.
Optimistic head says 1-0 home win , although this could turn nasty if saints turn up in the mood , could easily be 0-4.
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Would like to see Lamberk put a little faith in Grealish and go for a 4-2-3-1. We don't need that crappy 3 man midfield which doesn't work. Sit Sanchez and one of the other two deep, play Grealish, Zogbia and Gabby ahead, then Weimann or Bent up top. Go for it, try and show a bit of guile. If we're gonna play Gabby, have him facing the opposition defence and tasked with just running at them all day. None of that dropping off to try and link up play, or playing with his back to goal. He's shit at it.
Get him committing players and winning freekicks.
Play Grealish off the front man, let him drift. He's 19 now. We should have no qualms about putting him in a game like this if he's good enough. If he were 16-17 still I could understand the hesitation. Chuck him in.
Would be nice to see something even slightly different and this looks interesting however this is Lambert were talking about :-(
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Just to offer a slight defence to our defence, defending is supposed to start at the front when we don't have the ball. Look at how England pressed on Tuesday (ok it was only a friendly against a poorer team), surely we could at least try to help out the back four.
Yes they make mistakes but being under pretty much constant pressure from the off with little or no help in front of you means its when, not if, you make a mistake which might result in a goal and more moaning. Remember its fine if a forward misses or screws up.
(and yes I'm an old school centre-half) ::)
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Just to offer a slight defence to our defence, defending is supposed to start at the front when we don't have the ball. Look at how England pressed on Tuesday (ok it was only a friendly against a poorer team), surely we could at least try to help out the back four.
Yes they make mistakes but being under pretty much constant pressure from the off with little or no help in front of you means its when, not if, you make a mistake which might result in a goal and more moaning. Remember its fine if a forward misses or screws up.
(and yes I'm an old school centre-half) ::)
They opposition will get pointed at though, that's almost the same as a tackle.
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Dreadful performance (but Lambert will think it was good), dreadful tactics (but Lambert will say we tried to win the game), dreadful result. 0-2 Southampton. Usual huff and puff defending, they will finally score, we collapse and game over.
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Lawro vs Citizen Khan(Aston Villa fan Adil Ray)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29993756
Lawrenson's league table is funny. He hasn't predicted Liverpool to lose yet!
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Can only see a comfortable Southampton win and perhaps it will end Lambert's reign?
No idea where a potential goal might come from for us.
------------Guzan
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho
----------Sanchez----------
-----Westwood, Richardson
----------Cleverley
------Gabby, Weimann-------
What a terrible looking line up.
agree that team has relegation written all over it.
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Just to offer a slight defence to our defence, defending is supposed to start at the front when we don't have the ball. Look at how England pressed on Tuesday (ok it was only a friendly against a poorer team), surely we could at least try to help out the back four.
Yes they make mistakes but being under pretty much constant pressure from the off with little or no help in front of you means its when, not if, you make a mistake which might result in a goal and more moaning. Remember its fine if a forward misses or screws up.
(and yes I'm an old school centre-half) ::)
They opposition will get pointed at though, that's almost the same as a tackle.
Agree pointing is under rated as a defensive measure. "Old School Centre Forward"
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Can only see a comfortable Southampton win and perhaps it will end Lambert's reign?
No idea where a potential goal might come from for us.
------------Guzan
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho
----------Sanchez----------
-----Westwood, Richardson
----------Cleverley
------Gabby, Weimann-------
What a terrible looking line up.
agree that team has relegation written all over it.
It's also a team with 4 players missing from it.
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If we can concede less than 8 we'll have done well.
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Just to offer a slight defence to our defence, defending is supposed to start at the front when we don't have the ball. Look at how England pressed on Tuesday (ok it was only a friendly against a poorer team), surely we could at least try to help out the back four.
Yes they make mistakes but being under pretty much constant pressure from the off with little or no help in front of you means its when, not if, you make a mistake which might result in a goal and more moaning. Remember its fine if a forward misses or screws up.
(and yes I'm an old school centre-half) ::)
They opposition will get pointed at though, that's almost the same as a tackle.
Agree pointing is under rated as a defensive measure. "Old School Centre Forward"
I think we've suffered from a lack of decent pointing since Barry Brannan left, what is Lambert doing in training... ;-)
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Can only see a comfortable Southampton win and perhaps it will end Lambert's reign?
No idea where a potential goal might come from for us.
------------Guzan
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho
----------Sanchez----------
-----Westwood, Richardson
----------Cleverley
------Gabby, Weimann-------
What a terrible looking line up.
agree that team has relegation written all over it.
It's also a team with 4 players missing from it.
exactly, and we will play a lot of games with players missing.
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Game has not even played yet.
I think it will be 3-0 now to us.
UTV
LWT
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Game has not even played yet.
I think it will be 3-0 now to us.
UTV
LWT
I can't quite believe I'm about to do this but shouldn't your capital abbreviation be "ILWT" to be correct to the original intention of the quote.........
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Game has not even played yet.
I think it will be 3-0 now to us.
UTV
LWT
I can't quite believe I'm about to do this but shouldn't your capital abbreviation be "ILWT" to be correct to the original intention of the quote.........
know he means LambertWhataTwat
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Pretty straight forward Home win. Lots of shock reactions from everyone.
Followed by business as usual next weekend, I'm afraid.
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I dont see why he doesnt start Bent until half time at least. He hasn't had much playing time this season. Perhaps he might smack one in the net, you never know. He used to score on a regular basis and play for England. Might shake Agbonlahor up a bit as well.
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I'd be happy with 4 points out of the next 2 games.
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I noticed that Cleverly has started pointing, obviously learning from Westwood
(Old School Football Fan) ;-)
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I noticed that Cleverly has started pointing, obviously learning from Westwood
(Old School Football Fan) ;-)
Some witty chap with a strong black country accent that sits behind me in P6 calls them the Pointer Sisters.
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Cleverly. What a plonker.
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Cleverly. What a plonker.
You're on a real roll here girl. Got plonkers on your mind?
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Cleverly. What a plonker.
You're on a real roll here girl. Got plonkers on your mind?
Don't think so, Nick, just calling 'em as I see 'em!
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Cleverly. What a plonker.
I don't rate him at all as a player . Hope he is sent back up the M6 in Jan.
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Cleverly. What a plonker.
I don't rate him at all as a player . Hope he is sent back up the M6 in Jan.
I think he could do a job in the right set up. But this is Lamberts Aston Villa we are talking about. I don't think the problem is Cleverly.
I have said before I don't actually know what Lambert is trying to achieve with the system he plays.
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I would argue that Westwood and Cleverley are very decent players but they are being hampered by our lack of confidence and the tactics employed by the manager. To the faithful who like to see a crunching tackle or players to emulate the heroic efforts of Des Bremner, Frank Carrodus, Ian Taylor and the like, they are surely going to fall short.
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I saw cleverly out wide left several times v spurs yet he had to check back in and head square / back as he has no left foot.
Am I missing something or is this basic school stuff ! Or maybe a £2m a year manager should be abmonished of any blame .
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I saw cleverly out wide left several times v spurs yet he had to check back in and head square / back as he has no left foot.
Am I missing something or is this basic school stuff ! Or maybe a £2m a year manager should be abmonished of any blame .
I think the point is he is being played out of position in a system that does not suit him or the rest of them.
Who would play a very right footed player left midfield? oh yeh Lambert.
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I saw cleverly out wide left several times v spurs yet he had to check back in and head square / back as he has no left foot.
Am I missing something or is this basic school stuff ! Or maybe a £2m a year manager should be abmonished of any blame .
I think the point is he is being played out of position in a system that does not suit him or the rest of them.
Who would play a very right footed player left midfield? oh yeh Lambert.
Exactly. Both Westwood and Cleverley could do a decent job if used correctly. Whether both should be played together is another issue and has been debated elsewhere.
High energy pressing, tackling and tracking runs are strengths of neither. It is not surprising that they have adopted the Mark Kinsella pointing method action.
I don't think anybody should be abmonished, by the way. It sound painful and is probably illegal, even between consenting adults.
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I think the Saints will tear us a new arse-hole that will go nicely with the other 4 or 5 arse-holes we already have.
The spine of the team missing, 0-4
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we have no spine due to having too many new arse holes
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Morning .
A flatworm has more than one anus.
A sea cucumber breathes through it's anus.
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we have no spine due to having too many new arse holes
Thanks, made me giggle.
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
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With the backline we put out we will concede goals. Perhaps 2-3 if we're lucky but possibly more.
I'm also fully expecting a very negative midfield from Lambert in this one. I think he'll stick with the three of Sanchez, Westwood and TC. But I also suspect he might sacrifice Zogbia for the workrate and defensive capabilities of Richardson.
I cannot see us scoring. In fact I think we'll barely register a shot on target.
We just need to hope that when we hit that run of games against our relegation rivals we can find some goals from somewhere. We're getting close to the stage we're every point counts. A shit December could be too much to recover from.
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
The club that puts you to sleep (in the manner of a much-loved pet maybe) needs to wake up fast!
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
The club that puts you to sleep (in the manner of a much-loved pet maybe) needs to wake up fast!
Dream on guys. There is no waking up fast scenario here or is one likely for a long time to come. We are in terminal decline and relegation is, and has been for some time, an inevitability I feel. While I fully understand all the huge disadvantages it would bring and all the implications about becoming a Leeds or a Wolves etc, I actually think it is what is now required to re-ignite the spark and passion in the club that has been lost in huge quantities. So I'm prepared to take that risk
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
The club that puts you to sleep (in the manner of a much-loved pet maybe) needs to wake up fast!
Dream on guys. There is no waking up fast scenario here or is one likely for a long time to come. We are in terminal decline and relegation is, and has been for some time, an inevitability I feel. While I fully understand all the huge disadvantages it would bring and all the implications about becoming a Leeds or a Wolves etc, I actually think it is what is now required to re-ignite the spark and passion in the club that has been lost in huge quantities. So I'm prepared to take that risk
We are not going down.
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Fuck getting relegated. It will be no easier having shithouse clubs play like a cup final against us week in week out with this side we've got. I'm still hoping we get a decent manager in between now and being sold and can '' go again ''.
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We could also be 8th or something daft. Let's just take it game by game. We were going to be ripped a new one by the Emporers new clothes team the other week, yet kept a clean sheet and took a point where Liverpool and Man City got beat.
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Well yes, if we beat the saints & burnley and other results go our way we could go 6th, or reverse scenario bottom.
The life of a villa fan 2014.
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Two wins on the trot are about as rare as a Lambert interview where he doesn't claim we were excellent.
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Guess the real likelihood is we will draw both games 0-0 and stay about 16th.
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
The club that puts you to sleep (in the manner of a much-loved pet maybe) needs to wake up fast!
Dream on guys. There is no waking up fast scenario here or is one likely for a long time to come. We are in terminal decline and relegation is, and has been for some time, an inevitability I feel. While I fully understand all the huge disadvantages it would bring and all the implications about becoming a Leeds or a Wolves etc, I actually think it is what is now required to re-ignite the spark and passion in the club that has been lost in huge quantities. So I'm prepared to take that risk
We are not going down.
That does sound a whole lot better than 'Proud History, Bright Future' as a strapline I have to admit
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The good lord has not been too good to us with regard to injuries. We could go down or we could stay up. Nobody knows do they?. The good news ,however, is that it is only November. So Lambert has time to sort things out so at least we stop in the Prem albiet in a very lowly position .
That, gentlemen (and ladies),is the absolute pinnacle of our ambitions. Not the fans, but certainly the owner of our club.
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MNF means we will have in depth analysis of our defence frailties from Gary Neville. He's always good to listen to .
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The good lord has not been too good to us with regard to injuries. We could go down or we could stay up. Nobody knows do they?. The good news ,however, is that it is only November. So Lambert has time to sort things out so at least we stop in the Prem albiet in a very lowly position .
That, gentlemen (and ladies),is the absolute pinnacle of our ambitions. Not the fans, but certainly the owner of our club.
I don't think it is. I believe he wants success as badly as we do but like all owners with limited funds he's reliant on his staff and hasn't really got an unblemished record in appointments.
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
The club that puts you to sleep (in the manner of a much-loved pet maybe) needs to wake up fast!
Dream on guys. There is no waking up fast scenario here or is one likely for a long time to come. We are in terminal decline and relegation is, and has been for some time, an inevitability I feel. While I fully understand all the huge disadvantages it would bring and all the implications about becoming a Leeds or a Wolves etc, I actually think it is what is now required to re-ignite the spark and passion in the club that has been lost in huge quantities. So I'm prepared to take that risk
We are not going down.
That does sound a whole lot better than 'Proud History, Bright Future' as a strapline I have to admit
That is not an ethos, merely a fans opinion that we are not relegated in November with a serious injury hit squad.
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Home win.
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Villa nil soton 5
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Southampton have scored 25 goals this season, we've scored 5.
I'm with Lizz on this one, a Villa win and Lambert to get a contract extension.
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Has anyone contemplated we could be bottom 3 by the time we kick off Monday ! Then we could actually go bottom by 5pm next Saturday.
This club needs to wake up and fast.
The club that puts you to sleep (in the manner of a much-loved pet maybe) needs to wake up fast!
Absolutely spot on. I really find it difficult to imagine how we can survive.
Dream on guys. There is no waking up fast scenario here or is one likely for a long time to come. We are in terminal decline and relegation is, and has been for some time, an inevitability I feel. While I fully understand all the huge disadvantages it would bring and all the implications about becoming a Leeds or a Wolves etc, I actually think it is what is now required to re-ignite the spark and passion in the club that has been lost in huge quantities. So I'm prepared to take that risk
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Villa nil soton 5
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Sounds a bit pessimistic but I honestly think you are probably in the right ball park with this. I'm positive it will be a heavy, humiliating defeat.
Now in 16th place, not long before we nudge down into the bottom three where will reside for some time to come.
Maybe then everyone will wake up and smell the sh**.
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2-1 either way.
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0-1 loss.
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
Monday evening. Game on TV (I assume) and any expectation of a result very low indeed. That sounds about right to be honest. Probably not much more than that.
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Judging by Viagogo there will be a lot less in the ground than the announced attendance.
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Judging by Viagogo there will be a lot less in the ground than the announced attendance.
I reckon you are right.
It would be interesting to have a snapshot of the seats remaining on that site just before the match is taken down.
While we are on the subject, I was intrigued to learn last season that there is a time lag between the seat being sold and the club getting their customer data updated. That is, you can get get a call from the club about buying tickets when you purchased them a couple of days previously on Viagogo.
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Villa nil soton 5
Graziano Pelle has a deal with Conte on this one......hot Italian bloke stuffs Villa defence and gains starting role in next Italian Euro qualifier.
Villa will win 1-0 now......FML
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*swoon
(http://images.dailystar-uk.co.uk/dynamic/58/photos/680000/620x/144680.jpg)
sorry chaps......
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
I'll be there. But why I have no answer. It's like being invited to a car crash,,,
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
I'll be there. But why I have no answer. It's like being invited to a car crash,,,
I am going because I like the bracing breezes in the Upper Witton and staring at the floodlights until visions appear. Sometimes the digital advertising hoardings show unworldly colours and you can imagine you are at a drive-in cinema Northern California in Winter circa 1967 watching a psychedelic movie stoned on mescal.
Also the group of chaps sitting behind provide a constant stream of banter based light entertainment. I now know all the players who need to grow a pair, all the bottlers, all the fanny danglers and fancy Dans, the thimble riggers and the Nancy boys.
"Yer WEAK!" goes up the cry. "Yer fuckin WEAK!".
"Put yer fuckin foot in!"
"Get it forward yer fuckin haircut!"
"Fuckin pointer sisters! Track your man!"
"There's no ***** in the box!"
"Get it wide ya fuckin quiff!"
I must say that even though I am of the Church Mystic rather then the Church Militant, I often find myself in agreement with these stout Black Country yeomen, and find myself chuckling at their earthy wisdom.
Sometimes, standing in the horizontal sleet on the Birmingham bound platform at Aston Station having stood on the Lichfield Road for half an hour breathing in the toxic traffic fumes, and then another half an hour on the stairs breathing in Skunk fumes, the stars spangle in the indigo sky and seem to say: "Don't worry, son. The cricket season starts in April".
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
That many? I don't think I'd go right now if you paid me. I will go and watch it in the pub down here though. Another wasted two hours of my life probably
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sorry folks. I agree with Richard, we are so off the radar that no one gives a toss about us, sadly the powers that be at the club seem to feel the same way so relegation for sure :(
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sorry folks. I agree with Richard, we are so off the radar that no one gives a toss about us, sadly the powers that be at the club seem to feel the same way so relegation for sure :(
Pub tomorrow will be empty so at least I won't have to suffer the embarrassment of creeping out if we lose and stink the place out with our style of football. We have become an irrelevance...
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I am starting to get very nervous about this game now. It very much feels like a Mcleish Bolton moment is brewing. Also a crowd well below 30k possibly even as low as 25k ! A depleted toothless team taking on a flying saints with a fresh enthusiastic manager and a striker who is on fire .
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Agreed.
I said previously that if we concede early, I think it could turn quite nasty.
The problem is, will there be enough of us there for any 'disgruntlement' to register?
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sorry folks. I agree with Richard, we are so off the radar that no one gives a toss about us, sadly the powers that be at the club seem to feel the same way so relegation for sure :(
I know I am hated on here by the cognoscenti, but you don't need to apologise for agreeing with me Phil!
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We have cognoscenti?
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sorry folks. I agree with Richard, we are so off the radar that no one gives a toss about us, sadly the powers that be at the club seem to feel the same way so relegation for sure :(
I know I am hated on here by the cognoscenti, but you don't need to apologise for agreeing with me Phil!
Don't you worry what the Italians say about you!
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sorry folks. I agree with Richard, we are so off the radar that no one gives a toss about us, sadly the powers that be at the club seem to feel the same way so relegation for sure :(
I know I am hated on here by the cognoscenti, but you don't need to apologise for agreeing with me Phil!
Don't you worry what the Italians say about you!
I don't Bernie and indeed, I relish and love it, it's the only thing about Aston Villa that makes me smile. It's just that I don't know how to say that in Italian...
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Not worried that this is one I will miss, cant see anything from it
but usually when I am missing they play something like we hope for
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
I'll be there. But why I have no answer. It's like being invited to a car crash,,,
I am going because I like the bracing breezes in the Upper Witton and staring at the floodlights until visions appear. Sometimes the digital advertising hoardings show unworldly colours and you can imagine you are at a drive-in cinema Northern California in Winter circa 1967 watching a psychedelic movie stoned on mescal.
Also the group of chaps sitting behind provide a constant stream of banter based light entertainment. I now know all the players who need to grow a pair, all the bottlers, all the fanny danglers and fancy Dans, the thimble riggers and the Nancy boys.
"Yer WEAK!" goes up the cry. "Yer fuckin WEAK!".
"Put yer fuckin foot in!"
"Get it forward yer fuckin haircut!"
"Fuckin pointer sisters! Track your man!"
"There's no ***** in the box!"
"Get it wide ya fuckin quiff!"
I must say that even though I am of the Church Mystic rather then the Church Militant, I often find myself in agreement with these stout Black Country yeomen, and find myself chuckling at their earthy wisdom.
Sometimes, standing in the horizontal sleet on the Birmingham bound platform at Aston Station having stood on the Lichfield Road for half an hour breathing in the toxic traffic fumes, and then another half an hour on the stairs breathing in Skunk fumes, the stars spangle in the indigo sky and seem to say: "Don't worry, son. The cricket season starts in April".
100!
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Just found out that cheating ****** Dowd is referee so I'm revising my guess to 0-9.
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
I'll be there. But why I have no answer. It's like being invited to a car crash,,,
I am going because I like the bracing breezes in the Upper Witton and staring at the floodlights until visions appear. Sometimes the digital advertising hoardings show unworldly colours and you can imagine you are at a drive-in cinema Northern California in Winter circa 1967 watching a psychedelic movie stoned on mescal.
Also the group of chaps sitting behind provide a constant stream of banter based light entertainment. I now know all the players who need to grow a pair, all the bottlers, all the fanny danglers and fancy Dans, the thimble riggers and the Nancy boys.
"Yer WEAK!" goes up the cry. "Yer fuckin WEAK!".
"Put yer fuckin foot in!"
"Get it forward yer fuckin haircut!"
"Fuckin pointer sisters! Track your man!"
"There's no ***** in the box!"
"Get it wide ya fuckin quiff!"
I must say that even though I am of the Church Mystic rather then the Church Militant, I often find myself in agreement with these stout Black Country yeomen, and find myself chuckling at their earthy wisdom.
Sometimes, standing in the horizontal sleet on the Birmingham bound platform at Aston Station having stood on the Lichfield Road for half an hour breathing in the toxic traffic fumes, and then another half an hour on the stairs breathing in Skunk fumes, the stars spangle in the indigo sky and seem to say: "Don't worry, son. The cricket season starts in April".
Favourite post of the season so far
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Thank fuck I'm at work late. Should get home for kick off though.
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Lerner and Lambert have strangled the life out the club. Another defeat in front of only 25k. Can we score and reach 6 goals?
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Lerner and Lambert have strangled the life out the club. Another defeat in front of only 25k. Can we score and reach 6 goals?
Is that this season or this season and next combined?
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I am going because I like the bracing breezes in the Upper Witton and staring at the floodlights until visions appear. Sometimes the digital advertising hoardings show unworldly colours and you can imagine you are at a drive-in cinema Northern California in Winter circa 1967 watching a psychedelic movie stoned on mescal.
Also the group of chaps sitting behind provide a constant stream of banter based light entertainment. I now know all the players who need to grow a pair, all the bottlers, all the fanny danglers and fancy Dans, the thimble riggers and the Nancy boys.
"Yer WEAK!" goes up the cry. "Yer fuckin WEAK!".
"Put yer fuckin foot in!"
"Get it forward yer fuckin haircut!"
"Fuckin pointer sisters! Track your man!"
"There's no ***** in the box!"
"Get it wide ya fuckin quiff!"
I must say that even though I am of the Church Mystic rather then the Church Militant, I often find myself in agreement with these stout Black Country yeomen, and find myself chuckling at their earthy wisdom.
Sometimes, standing in the horizontal sleet on the Birmingham bound platform at Aston Station having stood on the Lichfield Road for half an hour breathing in the toxic traffic fumes, and then another half an hour on the stairs breathing in Skunk fumes, the stars spangle in the indigo sky and seem to say: "Don't worry, son. The cricket season starts in April".
This should be what David Bradley says in that 140th anniversary video.
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I am going because I like the bracing breezes in the Upper Witton and staring at the floodlights until visions appear. Sometimes the digital advertising hoardings show unworldly colours and you can imagine you are at a drive-in cinema Northern California in Winter circa 1967 watching a psychedelic movie stoned on mescal.
Also the group of chaps sitting behind provide a constant stream of banter based light entertainment. I now know all the players who need to grow a pair, all the bottlers, all the fanny danglers and fancy Dans, the thimble riggers and the Nancy boys.
"Yer WEAK!" goes up the cry. "Yer fuckin WEAK!".
"Put yer fuckin foot in!"
"Get it forward yer fuckin haircut!"
"Fuckin pointer sisters! Track your man!"
"There's no ***** in the box!"
"Get it wide ya fuckin quiff!"
I must say that even though I am of the Church Mystic rather then the Church Militant, I often find myself in agreement with these stout Black Country yeomen, and find myself chuckling at their earthy wisdom.
Sometimes, standing in the horizontal sleet on the Birmingham bound platform at Aston Station having stood on the Lichfield Road for half an hour breathing in the toxic traffic fumes, and then another half an hour on the stairs breathing in Skunk fumes, the stars spangle in the indigo sky and seem to say: "Don't worry, son. The cricket season starts in April".
And this is why I'm targeting a season ticket next year. I'm also hoping we run out to the full live version of Dark Star.
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Southampton have scored 25 goals this season, we've scored 5.
I'm with Lizz on this one, a Villa win and Lambert to get a contract extension.
And another horrifying example of how shit we've been this season. It would be all the same if we'd only played 4 or 5 games and Southampton and just been mullering the likes of QPR and Burnley.
But this is 11 games. We averaging less than a goal every other game! I reckon the likes of Bristol City and Swindon would give it more of a go than we do.
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Southampton -1 is 2/1. Fill your boots gents
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Hate these Monday night games as I have to swap shifts to go.
I would just love to be able to look forward to a game with a bit of confidence.Dowd refereeing makes it worse as that twat really does seem to hate us.Having said all that I think we may be astounded and produce a battling 1-1 draw coming from behind ,here's hoping!
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Suspect this is how Lambert will go -
----------Guzan----------
Hutton. Clark Lowton. Cissoko
------Sanchez ---- Westwood --
Cleverly. N'Zogbia
----gabby ---------Weimann ---
Subs - given Okore bacuna Richardson Cole Bent Grealish.
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Sorry if it has been mentioned before but if Okore is not on the bench tomorrow you can take it that he is the founder member of Bomb Squad 2.
Three nil defeat I am afraid.
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The most predictable line-up I can come up with is:
Guzan
Hutton
Clark
Okore
Cissokho
Sanchez
Westwood
N'Zogbia
Cleverley
Weimann
Gabby
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The big question is will Okore start or will he push Lowton inside to partner Clark.
The only other area he may juggle is Richardson for N'Zogbia perhaps ?
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Suspect this is how Lambert will go -
----------Guzan----------
Hutton. Clark Lowton. Cissoko
------Sanchez ---- Westwood --
Cleverly. N'Zogbia
----gabby ---------Weimann ---
Subs - given Okore bacuna Richardson Cole Bent Grealish.
If we play Clark(e) and Lowton at centre half we'll lose the game. i'm sticking my neck out there, I know.
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If Lambert starts with Lowton & Clark I might as well switch straight over to Eastenders.
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He's done it before .
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What the hell I am going for a slightly lucky 1-0 home win, and for our season to take a slight turn, at least until Christmas/New Year. Weinmann to score.
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Suspect this is how Lambert will go -
----------Guzan----------
Hutton. Clark Lowton. Cissoko
------Sanchez ---- Westwood --
Cleverly. N'Zogbia
----gabby ---------Weimann ---
Subs - given Okore bacuna Richardson Cole Bent Grealish.
If we play Clark(e) and Lowton at centre half we'll lose the game. i'm sticking my neck out there, I know.
Ooo you risk taker you
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whatever team we put out tomorrow is very capable of winning if we approach the game with the right attitude and positive game plan. It is unfortunately also very capable of being battered if we adopt a less than proactive approach which I fear we will.
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The gabby statue on the pitch has been a nice touch by Randy this season
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... I think we may be astounded and produce a battling 1-1 draw coming from behind ,here's hoping!
From
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30077226
•Villa have lost all five games in which their opponents have scored first this season.
•Saints are the only Premier League side not to drop points from a winning position in 2014-15, winning all eight matches in which they have led.
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... I think we may be astounded and produce a battling 1-1 draw coming from behind ,here's hoping!
From
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30077226
•Villa have lost all five games in which their opponents have scored first this season.
•Saints are the only Premier League side not to drop points from a winning position in 2014-15, winning all eight matches in which they have led.
boooooom
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So Lambert's century of games in charge in front of a half empty stadium and he says he is looking forward to chalking up his double century.... 0-3 reverse force tonight unfortunately. A 0-0 will be celebrated like a winner methinks.
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Is it that stonewalled, absolutely nailed on that we're going to lose, that we might actually win? Is it? It might just...
...it probably won't. We're probably going to lose.
But I wouldn't mind if we had one of those bat-shit crazy victories against the odds. 2% of the ball, 2 shots on target and get pelted with shots our end all game, and we'll win 3-2 (with an own goal thrown in to grab the winner in injury time).
I'd take it though.
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1-1
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1-1
David Geddis
Ivan Golac
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Is Okore seriously not even on the bench tonight?! That can't be true
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Sorry if it has been mentioned before but if Okore is not on the bench tomorrow you can take it that he is the founder member of Bomb Squad 2.
Three nil defeat I am afraid.
I saw the Lambert pre match interview, and thought the same, he was asked about Okore, and just said we will see, no positives, no upbeat comments. He doesn't want him at all. Okore must have done something to piss him off.
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David Armstrong to bag a late winner for Saints.
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I worry about Westwood/Lowton coming up against http://www.premierleague.com/content/dam/premierleague/shared-images/players/t/terry-hurlock/16973-lsh.jpg
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The only person in our office whose a football fan supports Southampton, he's a Kiwi whose wife s from there and he goes when he visits her family.
His loving it right now, they've only conceded 5 goals all season, which is remarkable especially when you consider we've only scored 5. Every stat you look at points to a resounding defeat.
But this is football, not played on a whiteboard, anything can appen, 11 against 11.
Aston Villa 0 - 2 Southampton.
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Villa win / draw double chance is 11/10 - odds against, against Southampton at home - how far we have fallen !
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I'm worried we'll struggle physically against this lot.
Is that dirty bastard Francis Benali playing?
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I'm worried we'll struggle physically against this lot.
Is that dirty bastard Francis Benali playing?
and http://i55.tinypic.com/2lavfwi.jpg
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Absolutely dreading it. If Okore doesn't play then who the hell does at centre half?
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Absolutely dreading it. If Okore doesn't play then who the hell does at centre half?
It honestly wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Chris Herd plays at the back tonight.
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I used to get excited about going to VP on match days. Today it feels like a chore - expecting us to play poorly, not compete, and get routinely beaten. Come on Lambert - surprise me.
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Villa win / draw double chance is 11/10 - odds against, against Southampton at home - how far we have fallen !
We go into a game against Southampton in 17th place in the division, with them 2nd. That is what the legacy of the bright new Randy Lerner era is. Phenomenal.
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The gabby statue on the pitch has been a nice touch by Randy this season
*applause*
Very good!
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Some talk attendance could be as low as 25k
I'll be there. But why I have no answer. It's like being invited to a car crash,,,
I am going because I like the bracing breezes in the Upper Witton and staring at the floodlights until visions appear. Sometimes the digital advertising hoardings show unworldly colours and you can imagine you are at a drive-in cinema Northern California in Winter circa 1967 watching a psychedelic movie stoned on mescal.
Also the group of chaps sitting behind provide a constant stream of banter based light entertainment. I now know all the players who need to grow a pair, all the bottlers, all the fanny danglers and fancy Dans, the thimble riggers and the Nancy boys.
"Yer WEAK!" goes up the cry. "Yer fuckin WEAK!".
"Put yer fuckin foot in!"
"Get it forward yer fuckin haircut!"
"Fuckin pointer sisters! Track your man!"
"There's no ***** in the box!"
"Get it wide ya fuckin quiff!"
I must say that even though I am of the Church Mystic rather then the Church Militant, I often find myself in agreement with these stout Black Country yeomen, and find myself chuckling at their earthy wisdom.
Sometimes, standing in the horizontal sleet on the Birmingham bound platform at Aston Station having stood on the Lichfield Road for half an hour breathing in the toxic traffic fumes, and then another half an hour on the stairs breathing in Skunk fumes, the stars spangle in the indigo sky and seem to say: "Don't worry, son. The cricket season starts in April".
Favourite post of the season so far
Yes, it was rather marvellous, wasn't it?
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Another stat from The Times today. We have only scored 3 goals in the second half in the last 27 games.
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Absolutely dreading it. If Okore doesn't play then who the hell does at centre half?
It honestly wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Chris Herd plays at the back tonight.
I think you might be right. He seemed to feature quite heavily in the OS's training photos this week. I can see Clark and Herd at the back with Okore on the bench. God help us.
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The match here does not kick off till 12.00, as we are 4 hours ahead and I am seriously thinking about not bothering and that will be a first, even under Lambert. Saints win and quite an easy win.
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I can hardly contain my apathy about the game tonight.
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Villa 0 soton 2
Le tissier brace.
I really hope they get in the top 4 , from where they were in the third tier and the amount of talent they have sold from the likes bale , Walcott and oxlade-chamberlain to the shaw, chambers etc and the great style of football they have tried to play , good on them , if they keep Liverpool or spuds out the top 4, fantastic.
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I fully expect Herd to be in the side ahead of Okore to be honest. Herd isn't that big but he's actually quite good in the air. Given Clarky's not too good I'd possibly rather play Herd than Okore anyway, as we need at least one player to give Pelle something to think about. Okore is weak in the air.
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I fully expect Herd to be in the side ahead of Okore to be honest. Herd isn't that big but he's actually quite good in the air. Given Clarky's not too good I'd possibly rather play Herd than Okore anyway, as we need at least one player to give Pelle something to think about. Okore is weak in the air.
I disagree. Clark is not a centre half for me so playing another non center half in Herd alongside him would be a terrible idea. He played Herd against Fulham away last season and he was awful. Okore was brought to play there so let's play him.
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Just found out that cheating c*** Dowd is referee so I'm revising my guess to 0-9.
This may work for us. Southampton could be a top 4 threat including to his beloved Yanited. Expect a 2-1 win to Villa having been awarded 3 penalties and the Saints down to 9 men.
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I fully expect Herd to be in the side ahead of Okore to be honest. Herd isn't that big but he's actually quite good in the air. Given Clarky's not too good I'd possibly rather play Herd than Okore anyway, as we need at least one player to give Pelle something to think about. Okore is weak in the air.
I disagree. Clark is not a centre half for me so playing another non center half in Herd alongside him would be a terrible idea. He played Herd against Fulham away last season and he was awful. Okore was brought to play there so let's play him.
I'd honestly rather play Herd and Okore given the choice. Herdy had a handful of reasonable games last season, and some terrible too (like Baker and Clark to be fair).
I agree on Clark though.
Trouble is, if their striker is a target man, strong and big in the air, with Phil and Baker out, the only other half reasonable option to deal with him is Chris Herd, such is the dearth in options and quality.
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I suppose the other option is to play all 3 of Clrk, Herd and Okore, and then use Hutton/Lowton and Cissokho as wing-backs, keep the midfield 3 the same and then play the 2 goal machines Gabby and Weimann up-front.
We're certainly blessed with options.
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I fully expect Herd to be in the side ahead of Okore to be honest. Herd isn't that big but he's actually quite good in the air. Given Clarky's not too good I'd possibly rather play Herd than Okore anyway, as we need at least one player to give Pelle something to think about. Okore is weak in the air.
I disagree. Clark is not a centre half for me so playing another non center half in Herd alongside him would be a terrible idea. He played Herd against Fulham away last season and he was awful. Okore was brought to play there so let's play him.
This the same Chris Herd that could not get a game in Bolton's first team when on loan recently.
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Just found out that cheating c*** Dowd is referee so I'm revising my guess to 0-9.
This may work for us. Southampton could be a top 4 threat including to his beloved Yanited. Expect a 2-1 win to Villa having been awarded 3 penalties and the Saints down to 9 men.
You'd back us to score that many against 9 men? I admire your optimism.
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Has Hutton ever played center half? He's got the build for it. I think Lowton played there last season for a bit as well. Should be interesting but I reckon Lambert go with Clark and Herd.
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I fully expect Herd to be in the side ahead of Okore to be honest. Herd isn't that big but he's actually quite good in the air. Given Clarky's not too good I'd possibly rather play Herd than Okore anyway, as we need at least one player to give Pelle something to think about. Okore is weak in the air.
I disagree. Clark is not a centre half for me so playing another non center half in Herd alongside him would be a terrible idea. He played Herd against Fulham away last season and he was awful. Okore was brought to play there so let's play him.
This the same Chris Herd that could not get a game in Bolton's first team when on loan recently.
We can't compete with the Bolton's of this world mate. ha ha.
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Lambert on the touchline, Dowd in the middle...fair to say I might need tranquilising for this one....
ahhh....
...yes, the standard and style of Villas play will do that for me.
I'm going positive 1-3....WE WILL SCORE!!! an actual goal!
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We seem to get picked to be on live matches by Sky suprisingly frequently.
Poor the Great British public.
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We seem to get picked to be on live matches by Sky suprisingly frequently.
Poor the Great British public.
It's cheaper than putting Mogadon in the water to keep the masses mentally understimulated and therefore compliant.
Right where's that conspiracy theory thread?
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We'll do well to score, they'll do well to stop. Burnley becomes very important.
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Trouble is, if their striker is a target man, strong and big in the air, with Phil and Baker out, the only other half reasonable option to deal with him is Chris Herd, such is the dearth in options and quality.
The answer to the question of life, the universe and everything is 42 Chris Herd
When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth Chris Herd
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Chris Herd is really both Sherlock Holmes and Arthur Dent so there!
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always nice to face shane long
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The back four will be Hutton, Okore, Clark and Cissohko.
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For the last couple of years, whenever I've seen Clark or Baker's name on the teamsheet I've usually let out an involuntary snort of contempt.
But then frequently they seem to actually play fairly well. So maybe I'm being harsh.
*snorts with contempt*
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Such is the abject nature of our club & team these days I'm not sure i can even drag myself to watch this on TV.
I think we're going to get a good tonking and will struggle to get over 30% possession.
I really have come to despise Lerner these days for what, despite his good intentions, he has done to our club...
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Has anyone else noticed how you never see Chris Herd and Matthew Lowton in the same room together at the same time.
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Reading the last few posts on this thread I feel very confident in changing my 0-3 prediction, if Herd is centre half with Clark I'll go for an optimistic 0-4.
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You would like to think that even Lambert would see the sense in playing a genuine centre half in defence instead of a utilty player!!!!!!
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I don't know what the score will be but the attendance will be below 9,000 and 52,000 of us will claim to be there in 10 years time.
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I've gone for a 3-0 or 3-1 win Gabby and/or Weiman scoring with odds ranging from 215-1 to 330-1 at William Hills.
One can but hope.
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
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Our best chance tonight is them showing up thinking they have won already and being complacent ..ultimately I can't see past them winning comfortably 2-0 or 3-0 due to the defence we are likely to be fielding.
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I've gone for a 3-0 or 3-1 win Gabby and/or Weiman scoring with odds ranging from 215-1 to 330-1 at William Hills.
One can but hope.
No, sorry - all hope extinguished by Lerner and Lambert.
Heavy defeat on its way.
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2-1 Villa.
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I expect Lambert to select Okore (because he has to) and when Okore gets sent off after conceding an 8th minute own goal. Lambert will later comment 'He was excellent.really excellent.' Wasnt he Roy?......Roy....Roy.
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I suppose the other option is to play all 3 of Clrk, Herd and Okore, and then use Hutton/Lowton and Cissokho as wing-backs, keep the midfield 3 the same and then play the 2 goal machines Gabby and Weimann up-front.
We're certainly blessed with options.
If I were Lambert, I would be tempted to do almost that. Lacking centre backs, play Lowton/ Okore/ Clark and have Westwood & Sanchez parked in front of them and have Hutton & Cissokho up against Shane Long and Mane. (Assuming this wonderful rumour that Tadic & Schneiderlin are both injured to be true.)
However, has anyone realised yet that Lambert will probably play Lowton alongside Clark and still leave out Okore?
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
November '84, my first game.
I've just had a call off my brother, he's took a shift tonight so I'm having his ticket.
Upper Trinty, on my jack and freezing cold. Can't wait.
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
November '84, my first game.
I've just had a call off my brother, he's took a shit tonight so I'm having his ticket.
Upper Trinty, on my jack and freezing cold. Can't wait.
I'm doing my hair, thought that was a more polite excuse
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This is the first Villa game in some 24 years of following us, going to in excess of 1000 games, that I have ever attended on my own.
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Looks like it could be worse than 25k looking at the amount of tickets available on the villa site. We are a shambles.
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Just an idea - can we start the match thread with us two down? then, hopefully, it will put a better spin on the nights football
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This is the first Villa game in some 24 years of following us, going to in excess of 1000 games, that I have ever attended on my own.
I can only think of two, both in the 92-93 season, the Dalian Atkinson wonder goal game at Selhurst Park, and our trip to Arsenal that season (won 1-0).
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This is the first Villa game in some 24 years of following us, going to in excess of 1000 games, that I have ever attended on my own.
I can only think of two, both in the 92-93 season, the Dalian Atkinson wonder goal game at Selhurst Park, and our trip to Arsenal that season (won 1-0).
Unless I can convince my bumder of a brother to do otherwise, then I will be making a trip to Selhurst Park next week on my own as well.
A journey of 3000 miles into Croydon, on my own. If we get beat, it will be a lonely drive back.
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
November '84, my first game.
I've just had a call off my brother, he's took a shit tonight so I'm having his ticket.
Upper Trinty, on my jack and freezing cold. Can't wait.
I'm doing my hair, thought that was a more polite excuse
The one and only time spellchecker hasn't attempted to correct what I've typed from my phone.
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Ads team:
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho at the back with Goose in net.
Midfield of Sanchez and Cleverley, with N'Zogbia central behind Andi [who is a central striker!!!!] but with licence to roam. I would then have Bacuna wide and Gabby wide to try and stop their full backs getting yonder.
It will more than likely be that back five, with Cleverley, Sanchez and Westwood, and Gabby, Charlie and Andi up top. Gabby being the central striker.
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He has to play Okore tonight, he had no other options really, if he doesn't play it will prove there is an underlying situation
Which is why I still don't think we will see him
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This is the first Villa game in some 24 years of following us, going to in excess of 1000 games, that I have ever attended on my own.
Where do you sit?
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Upper Holte End. My pa is in Scotland with work, so not sure if he is going to turn up, but last I heard was a not likely. He has the season ticket so my brother cannot come either.
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Suspect we may see the revival of the 3-5-2 , Herd /Okore /Clark
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Ads team:
Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho at the back with Goose in net.
Midfield of Sanchez and Cleverley, with N'Zogbia central behind Andi [who is a central striker!!!!] but with licence to roam. I would then have Bacuna wide and Gabby wide to try and stop their full backs getting yonder.
It will more than likely be that back five, with Cleverley, Sanchez and Westwood, and Gabby, Charlie and Andi up top. Gabby being the central striker.
He'll play Westwood. He always plays Westwood.
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Can't see Bacuna playing. He seems persona non grata nowadays
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This is the first time I've ever thought this and won't overly mind if I get told to do one but can anyone pick me up a programme tonight? Or point me in the direction of being able to buy one online? It actually is a nice bit of memorabilia even though Sky have messed with the dates.
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I've gone for a 3-0 or 3-1 win Gabby and/or Weiman scoring with odds ranging from 215-1 to 330-1 at William Hills.
One can but hope.
I've got a strange feeling we'll win as well, backed both 2-1 and 3-2 wins with a variety of goalscorers.
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This is the first time I've ever thought this and won't overly mind if I get told to do one but can anyone pick me up a programme tonight? Or point me in the direction of being able to buy one online? It actually is a nice bit of memorabilia even though Sky have messed with the dates.
Assuming they don't sell out, which I doubt with tonight's expected attendance, you can order them from the Villa site, alternative buy it from the club on ebay here Saints prog (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Aston-Villa-v-Southampton-Premier-League-programme-Monday-24-November-2014-/331388890047?pt=UK_Sports_Memorabilia_Football_Programmes_ET&hash=item4d28512bbf)
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I'll be amazed if it's not this:
Guzan, Hutton, Okore, Clark, Cissokho, Westwood, Sanchez, Cleverley, N'Zogbia, Wiemann, Agbonlahor.
Still think we'll win tonight. 2-1
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He has to play Okore tonight, he had no other options really, if he doesn't play it will prove there is an underlying situation
Which is why I still don't think we will see him
That's my concern. I'm quite happy to say that if Okore is still MIA (and there is no Lazarus-like return for Vlaar, Senderos or Baker) then any tiny, lingering, thread-thin support that I still have for Lambert will be gone.
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Upper Holte End. My pa is in Scotland with work, so not sure if he is going to turn up, but last I heard was a not likely. He has the season ticket so my brother cannot come either.
Does she screen your calls during games?
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This is the first Villa game in some 24 years of following us, going to in excess of 1000 games, that I have ever attended on my own.
I can only think of two, both in the 92-93 season, the Dalian Atkinson wonder goal game at Selhurst Park, and our trip to Arsenal that season (won 1-0).
Unless I can convince my bumder of a brother to do otherwise, then I will be making a trip to Selhurst Park next week on my own as well.
A journey of 3000 miles into Croydon, on my own. If we get beat, it will be a lonely drive back.
As a broken Villa fan who is losing the will to live fair play to you Ads for making that Palace trip, your made of much stronger stuff than myself, lets hope you can make that long drive home feeling happy.
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First home match I will be missing since I can't remember. We're bound to win because of that but still can't bear to listen on the radio on my way down south.
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I'm predicting we will give a rash penalty away and then get pulverised
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
November '84, my first game.
I've just had a call off my brother, he's took a shift tonight so I'm having his ticket.
Upper Trinty, on my jack and freezing cold. Can't wait.
Lowest league crowd was v the Saints, 8.5k....
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8,456.
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
November '84, my first game.
I've just had a call off my brother, he's took a shift tonight so I'm having his ticket.
Upper Trinty, on my jack and freezing cold. Can't wait.
Lowest league crowd was v the Saints, 8.5k....
Lowest league crowd at VP was 2,900 v Bradford in 1915. That Saints game is a post-war league low i'd imagine.
Talk of 25K tonight makes me think back to those years in the 80s when that would have been a very decent attendance for us.
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Think I'll stay in light a fire and watch The Nightmare Before Christmas, not the Tim Burton one, the Paul Lambert one.
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Feeling bit light headed as not had me dinner yet and too much driving . I've gone for 3-1 villa and Hutton first goal 750/1
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Well if Okore isn't starting tonight he may as well ship him off for a couple of quid in January because if he's shitter than either Lowton or Herd at CB then he's basically useless.
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Well if Okore isn't starting tonight he may as well ship him off for a couple of quid in January because if he's shitter than either Lowton or Herd at CB then he's basically useless.
Or there is something more sinister going on.
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Well if Okore isn't starting tonight he may as well ship him off for a couple of quid in January because if he's shitter than either Lowton or Herd at CB then he's basically useless.
Or there is something more sinister going on.
Okore shagged Lamberts missus?
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I remember being amongst a mere 12000 sorry souls down B6 for a Southampton game in the 80's.
November '84, my first game.
I've just had a call off my brother, he's took a shift tonight so I'm having his ticket.
Upper Trinity, on my jack and freezing cold. Can't wait.
Lowest league crowd was v the Saints, 8.5k....
Lowest league crowd at VP was 2,900 v Bradford in 1915. That Saints game is a post-war league low i'd imagine.
Talk of 25K tonight makes me think back to those years in the 80s when that would have been a very decent attendance for us.
Without checking I would guess we had lower in the pre-floodlight midweek afternoon kick-off days.
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Or there is something more sinister going on.
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