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Title: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 13, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
Very impressive win/how fucking typical.

(delete as appropriate)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2014, 07:21:43 PM
/Boom!!!!!!!!

Credit to Baker today.

We're gonna win the league, we're gonna win the league.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 13, 2014, 07:21:54 PM
Fucking hell.  ;D
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 13, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
Excellent result. Really really good!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 13, 2014, 07:22:42 PM
Senderos reaction Just love it.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: manic-road on September 13, 2014, 07:22:52 PM
Strengthened our champions league place.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 13, 2014, 07:22:59 PM
Wow! Points even if not the performance.

Fantastic.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Quiet Lion on September 13, 2014, 07:23:01 PM
We are a different beast this season
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: garyshawsknee on September 13, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
Shitting my pants in the second half, but now its done, they rarely troubled us. Great defending and team work all round. UTV.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 13, 2014, 07:23:06 PM
We absolutely did them there. That was no fluke - we knew we could defend better than they could attack today, and once we got the goal we always looked comfortable. Mourinho couldn't have done it better.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: darren woolley on September 13, 2014, 07:23:18 PM
I didn't expect that but what a performance by the defence played out of there skin well done lads.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: villa_cads on September 13, 2014, 07:23:23 PM
Woohooooo!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: frank black on September 13, 2014, 07:24:08 PM
Nice
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 13, 2014, 07:24:11 PM
The BBC website describe it as a "deserved win".
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Mister E on September 13, 2014, 07:24:34 PM
Stan Collymore gives Baker the man of the match.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 07:24:39 PM
Over the moon
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 13, 2014, 07:24:41 PM
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Chelsea   4   9   12
Aston Villa   4   3   10
Swansea   4   3   9
Southampton   4   5   7
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: myf on September 13, 2014, 07:24:49 PM
Is that 1 conceded in 4? Magic
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Tuscans on September 13, 2014, 07:25:23 PM
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA............Who would of ever thought 10pts out of 12, sitting in second place, winning at Anfield.

:) :) :)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: django on September 13, 2014, 07:25:30 PM
Another clean sheet. Amazing. People need to shut the fuck up about Baker now. He's made mistakes and is learning the game but he's shown he can defend really well. Immense concentration from him and Phil today.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Rigadon on September 13, 2014, 07:25:57 PM
Hurrah.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on September 13, 2014, 07:26:15 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 13, 2014, 07:26:33 PM
Baker Man Of The Match at Anfield. Literally incredible.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 13, 2014, 07:26:41 PM
Wow.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: joecrow on September 13, 2014, 07:26:53 PM
Enjoyed that. For all their possession,  we were hardly hangin on.

Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 13, 2014, 07:26:58 PM
Baker, Senderos and Richardson were all superb.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: joe_c on September 13, 2014, 07:27:04 PM
A quarter of the way to forty points. /funpolice
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on September 13, 2014, 07:27:27 PM
Great win and a really hard working performance.  I've been a critic of Nathan Baker, but will happily admit that he did very well today. 
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 07:27:44 PM
Should we start saving up for Champions League tickets and away trips next season?

Excellent performance. Backs to the wall in the second half but we coped well, and they didn't really create that much in the end. A bit of luck with Coutinho hitting the post, but I thought we did a good job on them too.

Baker was man of the match for me. Never thought I'd be saying that!

10 points in our first 4 games puts us on a nice run given we've still got 4 very tough games. But I'd expect us to pick up more results in 1-2 of those games and stay in a nice position.

For me given we're playing a side who scored over 100 goals last season, even despite the injury to Sturridge, we've done exceptionally well today. We kept Balotteli quiet and frustrated.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ingatea on September 13, 2014, 07:27:57 PM
Last season we would have definitely let that slip, things are on the up :-*
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 13, 2014, 07:28:06 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: MarkM on September 13, 2014, 07:28:12 PM
Get in!

Well done Villa
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: not3bad on September 13, 2014, 07:28:48 PM
Went for a run. Got back, we were 1-0 up. Went for a walk. Got back, we'd won 1-0!  Come on Match of the Day!

Baker man of the match?!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 13, 2014, 07:28:57 PM
I'm loving these Villa players like Hutton and Baker ramming our words
Back down our throats and proving most of us wrong, me especially
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: exigo on September 13, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
Nothing to see here. Just a top four team grinding out the usual win against mid-table mediocrity.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on September 13, 2014, 07:29:26 PM
More than this win, after 4 games I am glad now believe that we will not get relegated. The team isn't as bad as I feared it might.

Ok, we're not the greatest, but I'm 100% (well, 90%) sure we'll not get relegated. Which is nice.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 07:30:13 PM
Went for a run. Got back, we were 1-0 up. Went for a walk. Got back, we'd won 1-0!  Come on Match of the Day!

Baker man of the match?!
He did a very good impersonation of Martin Laursen today. He was superb. Kept focused through the whole game.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 13, 2014, 07:30:20 PM
John Lennon, Cilla Black, Paul McCartney, Kevin Keegan, Bill Shankly, Kenny Dalglish, Stan Boardman, Derek Hatton - we have beaten them all!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Jon Crofts on September 13, 2014, 07:30:23 PM
Thanks Villa and well done everyone.  A great start to my weekend, just the small matter of Ironman Wales tomorrow but that's put me right in the mood for it.  Get in.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 07:31:19 PM
More than this win, after 4 games I am glad now believe that we will not get relegated. The team isn't as bad as I feared it might.

Ok, we're not the greatest, but I'm 100% (well, 90%) sure we'll not get relegated. Which is nice.
And we'll only get better when Benteke gets back. Fair play to Gabby and Weimann, they're getting goals which has really helped fill the void.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 13, 2014, 07:31:19 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.

Actually, a song by a band whose other material was covered by The Greatest Band Ever.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: steamer on September 13, 2014, 07:32:19 PM
Nathan Baker, I eat my words.
Well played young man.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: mrastonvilla on September 13, 2014, 07:32:33 PM
Thank you Villa my kids will have a brilliant time on Monday with all the glory hunters at school
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: nigel on September 13, 2014, 07:33:17 PM
WE'RE GUNNA WIN THE LEAGUE....

Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2014, 07:33:17 PM
10 points from 6 shots on target. We're deadly when we shoot!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 07:33:30 PM
I'm loving these Villa players like Hutton and Baker ramming our words
Back down our throats and proving most of us wrong, me especially

I am always happy for a player to prove me a total nob by having a great match - long may it continue
My heart said we would win this - my head said a draw
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Flamingo Lane on September 13, 2014, 07:34:29 PM
I'm not a fan of Baker (or haven't been), but I thought he was superb today.  How many free kicks did he give away (I can't remember one)?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Villan For Life on September 13, 2014, 07:34:53 PM
Get in there Aston Villa!

The whole defence were immense.

Sometimes I just love Aston Villa!!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 13, 2014, 07:36:19 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.

Actually, a song by a band whose other material was covered by The Greatest Band Ever.

We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm right. The Small Faces are so far ahead of the competition that the second Greatest Band Ever is probably their tribute act.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: joecrow on September 13, 2014, 07:36:36 PM
Swiss phil did a number on Mario today, very risky but it worked. No appetite for the game after.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pooligan on September 13, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
Wins at Stoke and Liverpool without conceding ,pretty good in anybodys book
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 13, 2014, 07:37:56 PM
Went for a run. Got back, we were 1-0 up. Went for a walk. Got back, we'd won 1-0!  Come on Match of the Day!

Baker man of the match?!

Do the same for the Arsenal, everyone do the same  ;)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: CJ on September 13, 2014, 07:38:39 PM
After what I said about Baker before the game I'm having a huge slice of humble pie for tea.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2014, 07:38:57 PM
My beard has gone grey, I can't remember if it was before but fuck me that was horrible, I mean I'm happy but it really was backs to the wall but fair play to them. I fucking love all of you
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 13, 2014, 07:39:04 PM
Last season we were negative and terrible at defending. This year, we're by and large defensive but we are good at it. And we're not a violent or thuggish team, nor do we boof - we counter with passes along the floor and try to make the most of space. It's a consistent style which we're executing very well so far.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 13, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
I couldn't watch the last 10,
 kept on putting it on pause then fast forwarding it,
I'm 52 years old and act like I did when I was 13 when it comes to football, (obviously I never had fast forwarding when I was 13)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 13, 2014, 07:39:24 PM
I am still in shock. I mean, Liverpool are a really good team and we just snuffed out the game once we were ahead.

Wow.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 07:39:25 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! Nice little routine win there...
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: nigel on September 13, 2014, 07:39:30 PM
Nathan Baker, I eat my words.
Well played young man.

Agree, he and Senderos were very impressive, as were the rest of the defence.
Saying that, though, this was a very impressive team performance.
For all their possession Brad only had one proper shot to save.

Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: saunders_heroes on September 13, 2014, 07:39:42 PM
Bloody magic, Villa. Senderos is like a man possessed. I can't believe I doubted him.
Brilliant!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 07:39:45 PM
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Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 13, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
After what I said about Baker before the game I'm having a huge slice of humble pie for tea.

I'll join you if you don't mind
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 13, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
All I have to say is well done Nathan Baker. You've made a good number of us look complete mugs and very much me. What a super option now off the bench. We planned for this and got it right. They had lots of the ball did very little of note with it. And big Phil, what a man!! Our defence looks fucking rock right now.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: kippaxvilla2 on September 13, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
What an amazing result and I noticed terrific team spirit at the end.  Dare I say it Senderos looks like the Swiss Puyol.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 13, 2014, 07:40:43 PM
Thanks Villa and well done everyone.  A great start to my weekend, just the small matter of Ironman Wales tomorrow but that's put me right in the mood for it.  Get in.

Aw, good luck Jon. You've picked a tough one there mate. Get to bed.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 13, 2014, 07:40:45 PM
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Best defence in the league. Nobody saw that coming.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
It's what top 4 sides do. They go to mid-table sides and go home with a routine 3 points in the bag.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Keeno on September 13, 2014, 07:41:15 PM
Liverpool only had two or three shots on target as well, it wasn't like we were properly hanging on, I never got that feeling from the crowd and players that the goal was imminent. Instead of just holding on it felt more like we snuffed them out before the chances came today. Credit to Baker he was outstanding, and special mention to the midfield three particularly Westy/Cleverley who were both excellent. Point against Arsenal and Everton which is definitely possible and that will cap off a great opening month or two of the season.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 13, 2014, 07:42:32 PM
That was the most comfortable backs to the wall performance, 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' were so deliberate and moved the ball so slowly.
Take a bow Nathan Baker, I knew he would come good ;-0

Can this season get any better.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: SamTheMouse on September 13, 2014, 07:42:37 PM
Baker Man Of The Match at Anfield. Literally incredible.

I said it on the match thread and I'll say it again.

If I ever meet the lad, I'll invite him to punch me in the face.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on September 13, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
Dwight Yorkes comment after lamberts interview said it all

Aston villa are a massive club and there's no better support in the country

Villa till i die
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 13, 2014, 07:43:40 PM
Defensively, very impressive organised performance. Its obvious that our best signing has been Roy Keane. He is the reason for our massive change of fortunes.

Fabian Delph gave a highly disciplined performance for 90mins.

Everybody worked their socks off.  Wonderful!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2014, 07:45:36 PM
Villa are 5000/1 to win the league I might have a cheeky £1
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 07:45:58 PM
Defensively, very impressive organised performance. Its obvious that our best signing has been Roy Keane. He is the reason for our massive change of fortunes.

Fabian Delph gave a highly disciplined performance for 90mins.

Everybody worked their socks off.  Wonderful!

I do wonder whether he has had a big influence since his arrival. Does seem like it.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: manic-road on September 13, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 13, 2014, 07:46:12 PM
Dwight Yorkes comment after lamberts interview said it all

Aston villa are a massive club and there's no better support in the country

Villa till i die

Just back from the pub and there certainly isn't. Quite a few Villa fans there, several down for the Goodwood Revival festival, including a big skinhead guy from Worcester - which was just as well the way we celebrated in front of the glory hunting bindippers. Left the pub to renditions of 'oh when the villa, oh when the villa, oh when the villa go marching in' from all corners! Fantastic night, I am so bloody happy for a change
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2014, 07:47:37 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I'm not quite sure I "relaxed"
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 07:48:25 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Yossarian on September 13, 2014, 07:48:54 PM
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A quarter of the way to forty points.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 13, 2014, 07:49:21 PM
Nothing to see here. Just a top four team grinding out the usual win against mid-table mediocrity.

Quite agree. The Sky commentator described it as a stunning win to which some Villa wag in the pub shouted out 'it's only fucking Liverpool'. Boy, did the bindippers not like that which of course made it even funnier
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ian. on September 13, 2014, 07:49:50 PM
I am still in shock. I mean, Liverpool are a really good team and we just snuffed out the game once we were ahead.

Wow.
that's it, we snuffed out a very good attacking team.

Love it.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
Arsenal next, I'm sure we can keep the run going they are shite
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 13, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
It's a proper dirty dozen team, the old cast offs  and disaffected from other clubs coming together and starting to look better than there individual parts

Did you see them celebrating together at the end, it actually means something
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Phil from the upper holte on September 13, 2014, 07:51:14 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

I'll tell you who's fickle, wankers on twitter saying LAMBERT OUT
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 13, 2014, 07:51:17 PM
That was comfortable as you like.

I am off for a post-match lash up in Liverpool city centre with five Scouse season ticket holders. I think I might enjoy myself tonight.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 13, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
A quarter of the way to forty points. /funpolice

Have to be honest, that crossed my mind, too.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 07:52:18 PM
Can't wait for work on Monday.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
A quarter of the way to forty points. /funpolice

Have to be honest, that crossed my mind, too.

An eighth of the way to 80...

It crossed my mind aswell. Remember Hull City from a few seasons ago?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: exigo on September 13, 2014, 07:54:05 PM
A quarter of the way to forty points. /funpolice

Have to be honest, that crossed my mind, too.

At this rate, we'll be safe by Christmas.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 13, 2014, 07:54:07 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 07:55:11 PM
Have they mentioned Lallana yet?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 13, 2014, 07:56:18 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.

What Senderos Thing???????????????????????
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 13, 2014, 07:56:29 PM
It's a proper dirty dozen team, the old cast offs  and disaffected from other clubs coming together and starting to look better than there individual parts

Did you see them celebrating together at the end, it actually means something

And whilst I don't condone nasty tackles, even against this cheating bunch of twats, it's really good to see us putting it about a bit. We've been far too nice for far too long, just shrugging our shoulders when we don't get pens or they get given against us for example
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 07:57:00 PM
Dwight Yorkes comment after lamberts interview said it all

Aston villa are a massive club and there's no better support in the country

Villa till i die

Bless him
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 13, 2014, 07:57:25 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: godzvilla on September 13, 2014, 07:57:47 PM
All I have to say is well done Nathan Baker. You've made a good number of us look complete mugs and very much me. What a super option now off the bench. We planned for this and got it right. They had lots of the ball did very little of note with it. And big Phil, what a man!! Our defence looks fucking rock right now.

Guzan did,nt have to make a save in the entire 90 mins , a maginificent performance by the whole VILLA TEAM ...............Godzvilla!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 07:58:27 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.

What Senderos Thing???????????????????????

His kick on Balotelli = a sort of "welcome to the Premiership" sort of thing...
Don't agree with it but it will be made out to be the only reason we won by scousers
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 13, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.

What Senderos Thing???????????????????????
The sneaky kick on Balotelli ,I'm worried they'll punish him retrospectively as the ref didn't see it.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
All I have to say is well done Nathan Baker. You've made a good number of us look complete mugs and very much me. What a super option now off the bench. We planned for this and got it right. They had lots of the ball did very little of note with it. And big Phil, what a man!! Our defence looks fucking rock right now.

Guzan did,nt have to make a save in the entire 90 mins , a maginificent performance by the whole VILLA TEAM ...............Godzvilla!

The fact we have had 6 shots on target is being made a lot of - Liverpool not hitting the target seems to be forgotten
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 13, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

It also overlooks the fact we were the team most likely to score for the first twenty minutes.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Rudy Can't Fail on September 13, 2014, 08:00:22 PM
Disappointed we only managed the one goal today but on a positive note it was great to keep another clean sheet.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pooligan on September 13, 2014, 08:00:37 PM
I love us playing in all white. Today's backs to the wall performance reminded me of Rotterdam !
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Louzie0 on September 13, 2014, 08:01:51 PM
Brilliant result.
Wonderful team performance.
Excellent defence.

Roll on MOTD!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 13, 2014, 08:02:03 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.

What Senderos Thing???????????????????????

His kick on Balotelli = a sort of "welcome to the Premiership" sort of thing...
Don't agree with it but it will be made out to be the only reason we won by scousers
Oh that, Balotelli made a real meal of it trying to con the ref. How many times have we been done by favorouble refereeing and cheating by those £$%$%ers. FCUKem
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 13, 2014, 08:02:12 PM
I love us playing in all white. Today's backs to the wall performance reminded me of Rotterdam !

Absolutely. Always been my favourite away strip by miles because of its associations to that period in our history. Thought it looked really smart today. Why, however, we have a player turning out in black boots beats me, disgraceful
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 13, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.

What Senderos Thing???????????????????????
The sneaky kick on Balotelli ,I'm worried they'll punish him retrospectively as the ref didn't see it.

If they do review it, they will also see the shoves from Mario on Swiss Phil just before his trip/half kick. They were at each other no doubt.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: paulcomben on September 13, 2014, 08:02:55 PM
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Fucking Swansea! Why must it always be fucking stupid Welsh minnows Swansea? Challenging Villa's Champions League place. (This is 2019 and I am still asleep, right?)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 08:03:32 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.
We certainly wont be the last team to approach anfield like that. They scored over 100 goals in the league last season, and even minus Suarez and Sturridge had a plethora of attacking talent at their disposal. I think our game plan was absolutely spot on. Liverpool are all about attack, so that was what we had to focus on. We'll do the same against Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea I'd imagine.

We also showed plenty of attacking intent in the opening stages. When you get ahead you've got something to sit on and we did so and kept them largely quiet.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 08:03:35 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

Of course I celebrate the result it was a great shift defensively, it doesn't mean that I can't question the long-term ploy of playing so negatively. Christ, not everything is always black and white you know :)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 08:05:22 PM
I wish they'd stop going on about the Senderos thing.

What Senderos Thing???????????????????????
The sneaky kick on Balotelli ,I'm worried they'll punish him retrospectively as the ref didn't see it.

If they do review it, they will also see the shoves from Mario on Swiss Phil just before his trip/half kick. They were at each other no doubt.
Not sure they can do anything retrospectively with an incident like that. And in all honesty, Balotelli went down very easily. He just flicked his leg out a little. Crazy Mario made a meal of it. They had a good battle throughout the game but Big Phil came out on top.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 13, 2014, 08:06:13 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

Of course I celebrate the result it was a great shift defensively, it doesn't mean that I can't question the long-term ploy of playing so negatively. Christ, not everything is always black and white you know :)

The thing is, I think it was more than just a great defensive shift - which brings images of desperate blocks and last ditch tackles - it was an excellent display of organisation.

It's not as if we were hanging on to any great degree, it was an excellent tactical display from start to finish.

There's no reason why we'd play like that every week, but we were away to a team who scored gigantic shed loads of goals last season.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 08:06:22 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

It also overlooks the fact we were the team most likely to score for the first twenty minutes.

But that's exactly my point, why not carry on playing like that? We looked great at that point, could have gone on and scored more. These type of performances either end up being described as superb and deserved when the opposition are wasteful but it can also backfire as it did on numerous occasions last season. Of course it's great that we got the win today, ironically 2 years ago we won even more convincingly there.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ian. on September 13, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

It also overlooks the fact we were the team most likely to score for the first twenty minutes.
We won and we had some brilliant performances too, it was also against a team who have been tipped to win the league With a net spend of 100+ M against our little 8 million outlay.

Well done Lambert and co.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on September 13, 2014, 08:07:13 PM
We are a team now and credit goes to Lambert and Keane, maybe our previous frailties were down to the two twats he employed as assistants?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 08:07:35 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

Of course I celebrate the result it was a great shift defensively, it doesn't mean that I can't question the long-term ploy of playing so negatively. Christ, not everything is always black and white you know :)
I think once we get these next 4 out the way we'll see a more adventurous Villa side, particularly as we'll have the Beast back by then too and players like TC, Sanchez and Richardson will be well and truly settled in (hopefully).
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Goldie.7 on September 13, 2014, 08:07:51 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

Of course I celebrate the result it was a great shift defensively, it doesn't mean that I can't question the long-term ploy of playing so negatively. Christ, not everything is always black and white you know :)

They played the attacking style and got rewarded with 0 points.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 08:08:08 PM
I love us playing in all white. Today's backs to the wall performance reminded me of Rotterdam !

Absolutely. Always been my favourite away strip by miles because of its associations to that period in our history. Thought it looked really smart today. Why, however, we have a player turning out in black boots beats me, disgraceful

Made me laugh when the Olbiun went on about their pinstripes  -  pointed out what we had won wearing them ;-)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 08:08:41 PM
Absolutely without question the thing that has improved exponentially this season has been our organisation. No surprise it comes with having a few more experienced heads in the team.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Walmley_Villa on September 13, 2014, 08:09:38 PM
I think the fact we have two experienced and physical fullbacks help the centre halves big time, especially from set pieces. Also, credit to Westwood yet again, his delivery from Fredericks and corners was excellent - he has had a great 4 league games so far.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 08:10:24 PM
When is The Beast back?

How much am I looking forward to that!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 08:10:32 PM
Absolutely without question the thing that has improved exponentially this season has been our organisation. No surprise it comes with having a few more experienced heads in the team.
I think having a couple of physical fullbacks has also really helped, as opposed to the likes of Lowton, Bennett and Luna who'd get blown over by a gnats fart. Hutton and Cissokho are also fairly useful in the air too.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 13, 2014, 08:10:55 PM
I thought Sanchez looked a tad lost when he came on. Mind you, it must be so difficult at that stage to get to the pace of such a frenetic game and when the ball is coming on to you all the time
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 08:11:13 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

Of course I celebrate the result it was a great shift defensively, it doesn't mean that I can't question the long-term ploy of playing so negatively. Christ, not everything is always black and white you know :)
I think once we get these next 4 out the way we'll see a more adventurous Villa side, particularly as we'll have the Beast back by then too and players like TC, Sanchez and Richardson will be well and truly settled in (hopefully).

Hope so Tom, I think funnily enough the games against "lesser" teams will be more of a true barometer for us this season.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 13, 2014, 08:12:27 PM
I think the fact we have two experienced and physical fullbacks help the centre halves big time, especially from set pieces. Also, credit to Westwood yet again, his delivery from Fredericks and corners was excellent - he has had a great 4 league games so far.

Yep absolutely, I know I'd rather have Alan and Aly outside me as a centre half than Matt and Joe.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on September 13, 2014, 08:12:46 PM
Hope so Tom, I think funnily enough the games against "lesser" teams will be more of a true barometer for us this season.
And so far we've beaten two and drawn with one of the lesser sides.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 08:12:49 PM
Someone pinch me so I can wake up.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 13, 2014, 08:16:57 PM
Hope so Tom, I think funnily enough the games against "lesser" teams will be more of a true barometer for us this season.
And so far we've beaten two and drawn with one of the lesser sides.
Yep so far so good. I do agree though, those games against the sort of bottom 12 I suppose, are the ones we didn't pick enough points up in last season. Our squad looks a lot better now all over the pitch. We've got a lot more midfield quality. We've got Tekkers coming back. I can see us dishing out a few batterings and I don't envision us dropping quite so many points at Villa park against sides like Palace, Fulham etc, like we did last year.

I reckon we'll be looking more at the 50 point region this season as opposed to desperately scraping to get to 40.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: fredm on September 13, 2014, 08:19:34 PM
Did I see correctly. Did StevieG scuff the white paint out that the ref had just sprayed and put the ball a couple of feet to the left of where it should have been? This was at a free kick just outside the left hand side of our penalty area.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 08:22:12 PM
Senderos v Balotelli (http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/philippe-senderos-took-out-mario-balotelli-4-times-in-aston-villas-win-at-liverpool-pictures/)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 13, 2014, 08:22:59 PM
Did I see correctly. Did StevieG scuff the white paint out that the ref had just sprayed and put the ball a couple of feet to the left of where it should have been? This was at a free kick just outside the left hand side of our penalty area.

So what? He IS the ref!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 13, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
Wow, I'm literally stunned, what an amazing result and start to the season.  We more than deserved to be ahead in the first half, and Senderos was a rock.  Second half, I was getting really annoyed by just how cheaply we conceded possession.  Every single goal kick, and even worse, throw in straight to a red shirt.  It was a superbly well organised performance though, and apart from the effort off the post, not too many heart-in-the-mouth moments.

There seems to be a superb spirit in the camp, and everybody worked their jollocks off.  I'd have given Senderos MOTM, but don't have too many complaints about Baker getting it, even with his stupid hipster haircut and beard!

Random observation - how out of place do Charles N'Zogbia's black boots look?

As for Liverpool, Balotelli and Lambert are by no stretch any sort of replacement for Suarez.

Superb stuff, I'm absolutely chuffed and can't wait to get into work on Monday to see the very many Scousers.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 13, 2014, 08:24:40 PM
I thought Sanchez looked a tad lost when he came on. Mind you, it must be so difficult at that stage to get to the pace of such a frenetic game and when the ball is coming on to you all the time

He was out of position when he came on. Delph had to tell him where he should be but I think language was an issue.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 13, 2014, 08:26:30 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.

Actually, a song by a band whose other material was covered by The Greatest Band Ever.

We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm right. The Small Faces are so far ahead of the competition that the second Greatest Band Ever is probably their tribute act.

The Small Faces had no impact on The Greatest Football Club Ever.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 13, 2014, 08:28:10 PM
Utterly superb.

Just a repeat of last season really in terms of how the game panned out, god Liverpool must hate playing us at Anfield.

Am I right we go top if we beat Arsenal? I know it won't last but after the last 4 years it makes sense to enjoy this feel good factor while it lasts.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on September 13, 2014, 08:29:04 PM
Just shows you want a little bit of experience can bring.

Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 13, 2014, 08:29:30 PM
Paul  McGrath tweeted - Aston Villa we can believe, one very proud man here
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Big Dick Edwards on September 13, 2014, 08:31:11 PM
Our defending was so resolute I never even got nervous we'd lose it in the last ten minutes. It's the difference having men rather than boys in our defence.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: steamer on September 13, 2014, 08:33:27 PM
Are we still for sale ?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Legion on September 13, 2014, 08:35:50 PM
No idea. Ask the ITK experts elsewhere.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on September 13, 2014, 08:39:30 PM
Excellent result. We defended really well, although I wish we'd try and attack a bit more.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: myf on September 13, 2014, 08:45:50 PM
The Liverpool wankfest is a joke. Even the bbc stream is so biased. Makes me sick.
Incredible start for us though. Wouldn't bet against a win next week either
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on September 13, 2014, 08:47:10 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.

Actually, a song by a band whose other material was covered by The Greatest Band Ever.

We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm right. The Small Faces are so far ahead of the competition that the second Greatest Band Ever is probably their tribute act.

The Small Faces had no impact on The Greatest Football Club Ever.
I demand a intetnet poll to see if we should be running out to it at home.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 08:48:54 PM
Is a shot off the post classed as on or off target ?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 13, 2014, 08:50:41 PM
Is a shot off the post classed as on or off target ?

Probably depends on where the ball goes after hitting the post.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Tayls_7 on September 13, 2014, 08:51:16 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.

Actually, a song by a band whose other material was covered by The Greatest Band Ever.

We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm right. The Small Faces are so far ahead of the competition that the second Greatest Band Ever is probably their tribute act.

The Small Faces had no impact on The Greatest Football Club Ever.
I demand a intetnet poll to see if we should be running out to it at home.

I don't see what any of this bickering has to do with The Smiths?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 13, 2014, 08:51:41 PM
The Liverpool wankfest is a joke. Even the bbc stream is so biased. Makes me sick.

Really?

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Aston Villa have more points (10) than shots on target (six) this season. Talk about efficient.

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Some glum faces and shaking of heads in the home crowd as Liverpool suffer their second league defeat of the season.

Complete contrast in the away end, though, as Aston Villa fans belt out celebratory chants. A great away performance and one that continues a fine start to the season for Paul Lambert's side.

They move on to 10 points, and are second in the standings behind Chelsea.

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Nathan Baker has been hugely impressive for Aston Villa today

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The visitors have hardly threatened in the second half but they lead 1-0 so they don't really need to. More importantly, led by Philippe Senderos at the back, they have defended superbly

Which bits of the BBC stream do you see as 'biased'? Biased towards whom?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: eric woolban woolban on September 13, 2014, 08:53:04 PM
A shot that hits the woodwork is deemed off target.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ez on September 13, 2014, 08:54:00 PM
Well no one can say we haven't played anyone yet now.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 13, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
Well no one can say we haven't played anyone yet now.

But can we do it on a cold night in Stoke... oh wait.

Yeah but its whether we can beat the lesser teams that matter.. oh wait.

First good team though that will be the real test.. oh wait.

Happy days.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: nigel on September 13, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
Excellent result. We defended really well, although I wish we'd try and attack a bit more.

I don't think we had much choice, mate.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 13, 2014, 09:03:44 PM
Excellent result. We defended really well, although I wish we'd try and attack a bit more.

I don't think we had much choice, mate.

Quite agree. Generally speaking, you do what you can when you're playing at Anfield, and we did what we could damn well.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Lizz on September 13, 2014, 09:03:58 PM
I'm on leave the next 2 Mondays. Hopefully it'll mean 2 missed bragging opportunities.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:06:21 PM
Hopefully people will cut baker some rope now
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 13, 2014, 09:07:32 PM
Did I see correctly. Did StevieG scuff the white paint out that the ref had just sprayed and put the ball a couple of feet to the left of where it should have been? This was at a free kick just outside the left hand side of our penalty area.

He did.  He's always been a cheating twat.  Lambert has had someone do a job on him at anfield 2 seasons in a row, don't know why everyone doesn't do it.

Our back 4 was immense today.  I've slagged Baker to a huge degree but he put in a proper centre halves' performance today.  Won everything in the air, even if you never know which direction the ball will go after it's made contact with his head.

With Benteke to come back, Grealish to start getting more game time and the team to generally start to gel the solid defence is a great platform to build from.  We could really be looking at comfortable mid-table here!  It's also nice to have options from the bench.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 13, 2014, 09:08:04 PM
Song of the Baker by the Small Faces is the new orange dot.Thank me later.

Plus it is a great song by The Greatest Band Ever (as they should be known). Thanks.

Actually, a song by a band whose other material was covered by The Greatest Band Ever.

We'll have to agree to disagree, but I'm right. The Small Faces are so far ahead of the competition that the second Greatest Band Ever is probably their tribute act.

The Small Faces had no impact on The Greatest Football Club Ever.
I demand a intetnet poll to see if we should be running out to it at home.

Seconded.







Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: WarszaVillan on September 13, 2014, 09:08:42 PM
I love us playing in all white. Today's backs to the wall performance reminded me of Rotterdam !

Absolutely. Always been my favourite away strip by miles because of its associations to that period in our history. Thought it looked really smart today. Why, however, we have a player turning out in black boots beats me, disgraceful

Made me laugh when the Olbiun went on about their pinstripes  -  pointed out what we had won wearing them ;-)


I was  watching in a bar in Warsaw, some pissed guy behind me said I hate Spurs even more than Liverpool, I'm off home.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 13, 2014, 09:10:28 PM
I normally get upset about possession percentage figures, but on this occasion I'm not,
because Liverpool did very little with the massive 75% they had, in fact overall we still made more proper chances especially in the first half,
 a lot of that 75% was spent passing it around in there own half with no where to go
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: charleeco7 on September 13, 2014, 09:11:26 PM
Hats off to the manager tonight, he got it nailed on tactically.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 13, 2014, 09:11:38 PM
I normally get upset about possession percentage figures, but on this occasion I'm not,
because Liverpool did very little with the massive 75% they had, in fact overall we still made more proper chances especially in the first half,
 a lot of that 75% was spent passing it around in there own half with no where to go

Yep, I agree. The most important statistic today is that we had 100% of the goals.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:11:47 PM
Has anyone won at anfield before with 25% possession ?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Tokyo Sexwhale on September 13, 2014, 09:11:52 PM
Another pleasant surprise.  Keeping calm though, we've had promising results before.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 13, 2014, 09:14:08 PM
I normally get upset about possession percentage figures, but on this occasion I'm not,
because Liverpool did very little with the massive 75% they had, in fact overall we still made more proper chances especially in the first half,
 a lot of that 75% was spent passing it around in there own half with no where to go

Jamie Redknapp actually managed some good punditry after the match.  Showed Gabby not closing down the ball when their centre backs had possesion so he could stay close to Stevie GBH and Delph sitting deep and cutting out their passing options.  Not pretty but you have to be ugly when playing against a more talented team.  Lambert and the rest of the coaching team have to take credit for that.

EDIT:  My point is we as fans are screaming for the players to chase every ball but when you look back and think about it it's not always the best thing to do.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: nigel on September 13, 2014, 09:15:39 PM
I normally get upset about possession percentage figures, but on this occasion I'm not,
because Liverpool did very little with the massive 75% they had, in fact overall we still made more proper chances especially in the first half,
 a lot of that 75% was spent passing it around in there own half with no where to go

Yep, I agree. The most important statistic today is that we had 100% of the goals.

Exactly
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:15:43 PM
Shame Nige ain't doing last night of the proms this year. He'll be buzzing somewhere !
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: BoskoDjembaSalifou on September 13, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
Excellent result. We defended really well, although I wish we'd try and attack a bit more.

I don't think we had much choice, mate.

Yeah, I don't mind when we win, but I would've liked to see us try and get another goal today.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: tom jennings III on September 13, 2014, 09:22:49 PM
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!! Get in there you little beauties!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: claret and blue blood on September 13, 2014, 09:27:47 PM
Lovely  :)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: galleycommonvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:28:44 PM
Is it too early in the season to start singing "we are unbeatable" great result feel proud of the team.....sotc utv
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 09:29:04 PM
Fair play Baker he did well today, I just watched the game back on delay and was just convinced we'd concede in the second half so very happy with that.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: DrGonzo on September 13, 2014, 09:29:18 PM
  Today I are mostly been enjoyin' bein' in a pub full of scouse fans.  Lovely result.  Baker was excellent =O!!  Senderos solid again, Cleverley not inept and Guzan hardly had to make a save.  Favourite commentator moment was about the half hour mark when they said "Villa can't keep sitting back like this, because a goal is coming."    Would have been fun to go on and score 3 but the point are what really matter and as such the job was done exceedingly well.  Good work chaps.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:29:30 PM
Nice to see Wolfy was there on the front row of the away end today.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 13, 2014, 09:32:36 PM
Hopefully people will cut baker some rope now

Thing is he fully deserved the grief he got as much as he deserves much praise tonight. He's been awful at times. He was superb today.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: berneboy on September 13, 2014, 09:35:12 PM
Hats off to the manager tonight, he got it nailed on tactically.

I wonder whose tactics they were.
Roy may be a big influence on life at Villa currently.
Did you read Jack's little piece about Keane in training when after half an hour he asked JG when he would start training?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: FrankyH on September 13, 2014, 09:35:37 PM
Didn't want Senderos                                                  - got that one wrong

Thought Dwight York didn't
have a good word to say about the Villa                       - got that one wrong

Thought we would be in another relegation battle         - got that one wrong

Listening to the wanker of a sky reporter trying            - everything that's wrong
his best to get Senderos a retrospective ban                   sky's gloryhunting agenda

Fuck em - love the Villa - well done lads.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:38:02 PM
Hopefully people will cut baker some rope now

Thing is he fully deserved the grief he got as much as he deserves much praise tonight. He's been awful at times. He was superb today.
He had some great games last season too with inferior full backs for support .
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Des Little on September 13, 2014, 09:52:02 PM
And that's why we love 'em.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 13, 2014, 09:52:25 PM
Hats off to the manager tonight, he got it nailed on tactically.

I wonder whose tactics they were.
Roy may be a big influence on life at Villa currently.
Did you read Jack's little piece about Keane in training when after half an hour he asked JG when he would start training?
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I agree bernaboy - Loved the Given quote that "Roy came in and did some coaching" and he sounded surprised that such a thing should happen!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: bertlambshank on September 13, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
Loving the beard.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Beards
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: mike on September 13, 2014, 09:58:56 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

I agree with both of you. Going back to the Small Faces thing - what were you on about  Dave?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 10:02:49 PM
I thought we sat far too deep to be honest and there was no real outlet. How many times did we hoof it clear straight back to a red shirt. We got away with it today but that won't always happen.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Toronto Villa on September 13, 2014, 10:04:45 PM
The result is all the more brilliant when you consider our net spend this summer versus Liverpool. I don't think anyone is expecting this to last and that Liverpool finish above us by some margin in the end. But you cannot put a price on team cohesiveness and getting in some proper experienced players who know how to handle themselves. They have brought tremendous value and helped build the confidence of players like Baker and Westwood who struggled and lost their way.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 10:05:23 PM
There is some truth to that, whilst we defended well in the second half we do need to work out a way of carrying more of a threat. However it's all about development and it's a great result and we played really well in the first half.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 13, 2014, 10:24:18 PM
What time is MOTD on?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Fasth56 on September 13, 2014, 10:27:24 PM
22.50 according to london bbc1
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: levico on September 13, 2014, 10:27:49 PM
10.50
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: TopDeck113 on September 13, 2014, 10:29:51 PM
Sometimes I just love the Villa. Nothing else to say.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 13, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Cheers lads.

Should be good tonight  :P
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on September 13, 2014, 10:30:47 PM
Great stuff today...bring on the arse
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: class-of-82 on September 13, 2014, 10:36:43 PM
There will be a proud villa fan wearing his shirt in covent garden on Monday then making it well seen in Camden high street before the pilgrimage to vp on Friday afternoon

Come on you lions
Come on you lions
Villa till I die
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Somniloquism on September 13, 2014, 10:42:24 PM
Hats off to the manager tonight, he got it nailed on tactically.

I wonder whose tactics they were.
Roy may be a big influence on life at Villa currently.
Did you read Jack's little piece about Keane in training when after half an hour he asked JG when he would start training?

We played similarly last season with someone stopping Stevie G from spraying the ball. Only a Suarez dive stopped us from winning at Klanfield for three seasons going. Lambert seems to have the working of Rodgers, well away anyway.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 13, 2014, 10:43:52 PM
Can't bother to read other comments before posting (will back track later)...just back home after arranging a work game with a Liverpool supporter (and a CFC+MU one).....

We were fucking so much better the first 20...then we changed (BY OUR CHOICE!) to a defensive approach....and apparently we can defend. I loved the post match analyse on SKY...where they spotted how we neutralized LFC....Gabby and Delph were genius of stopping their build up...Baker!!! what a game...
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 10:45:00 PM
True we ain't beat them at home for ages
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 13, 2014, 10:46:48 PM
Love this selfie from my new employee (even if he support CFC)

(https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10406927_715163138564031_3397049993528781211_n.jpg?oh=18189805dc69986d38eca607fb492daf&oe=548F3EEA)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Edvard Remberg on September 13, 2014, 10:50:14 PM
Oh - and the stats....1-1 shots on goal....and the 2 biggest chances not leading to goals were ours...
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Lizz on September 13, 2014, 10:53:12 PM
Is the photo on the BBC sports page of Gaby scoring? In the photo he's almost lying down on the pitch & Stevie G is behind the goalkeeper.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 10:54:00 PM
I don't recall their shot on goal ? Was it courtinhio off the post ?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 10:55:20 PM
Is the photo on the BBC sports page of Gaby scoring? In the photo he's almost lying down on the pitch & Stevie G is behind the goalkeeper.
Yes that's our goal.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 13, 2014, 10:55:57 PM
I don't recall their shot on goal ? Was it courtinhio off the post ?
Sakho shot straight at Guzan.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: mr woo on September 13, 2014, 11:03:34 PM
 Goals do change games and that makes it tough to plot any forecast of how a match will pan out. You can't really say we played poorly after we scored, simply because our tactics and therefore the oppositions mentality and course of the game altered the moment we got in front.       If you see what I mean.



Whatever....of anyone needs an explanation why we're doing so well this year.....

 Im convinced there are two simple reasons-

1.   A PROPER LEFT BACK.

2.   A PROPER RIGHT BACK.         


The centre backs never were the issue,

I'm convinced they just simply couldnt cope with the holes left by the ineptitude of the full backs prior to these two.



Roll on Chelsea....
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Can Gana Be Bettered!?!? on September 13, 2014, 11:04:26 PM
Forgot to mention it, but a little mention to Charlie N. Dropped and the brought on, which many probably thought wasn't the best thing to do, but he came on and did his fair share of defensive work.

If he can do that and play as well as we've seen him play, he's a first team player.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 13, 2014, 11:04:43 PM
Just back after a brilliant day for us and a full, juicy 3 points!
Nice to get one over the smug fu**ers who were looking down their noses at us at Stafford services and pre-kick off (our seats on extreme right of Villa fans, so next to their lot) and who started leaving 7/8 minutes before the end!
Thought we were excellent 1st half; played too deep 2nd...checking clock almost every second, it seemed.

On way back to car met an old Scouse college mate - was he pissed off!

Clash of the giants at the Bridge in two weeks!!! ;-)
UTV!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Matt C on September 13, 2014, 11:05:27 PM
Fair play to Baker, totally proved me wrong - that's the best I've ever seen him play for us. Senderos is a revelation too.

Tactically excellent today and we look strong and well organized - a real credit to Lambert & Keane. We've got a bit of guile about the team now too.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 11:08:05 PM

The centre backs never were the issue,

I think that is correct.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on September 13, 2014, 11:10:37 PM
Absolutely without question the thing that has improved exponentially this season has been our organisation. No surprise it comes with having a few more experienced heads in the team.
I think having a couple of physical fullbacks has also really helped, as opposed to the likes of Lowton, Bennett and Luna who'd get blown over by a gnats fart. Hutton and Cissokho are also fairly useful in the air too.

I agree, but I would go further to suggest that the difference is having full backs who can defend and who realise that this is their primary function. I believe that this is a lesson which PL has learned painfully and slowly.  In the past we would often start off quite promisingly and then one or other full back would be skinned and the shape and confidence would disappear like mist in the sun.

Today, we kept our shape throughout and hardly ever looked like conceding and without Vlaar. Also they had wide pacy players aplenty. This is massive.

What remains unresolved is breaking down defensive teams at home.

Great result, great performance and well done to all concerned.

 
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 11:12:18 PM

The centre backs never were the issue,

I think that is correct.

I'm not sure on that, there were some pretty diabolical individual performances by the centre halves as well.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Concrete John on September 13, 2014, 11:13:10 PM
I thought that was the perfect away game by Villa today, the first 20 minutes we played some excellent stuff took the lead then PL changed formation and almost totally snuffed Liverpool out for the rest of the game by the whole team working their socks off and limiting Liverpool to just one shot on target.

Well done to PL for his tactics today, that was the first time in a long while I could totally relax for the whole of the second half watching us defend a one goal lead.

I agree to an extent but I always think these 'deserved wins' after a backs-to-the-wall performance are pretty fickle. Coutinho's shot flies in, what then? It's all what ifs but ultimately Liverpool didn't do enough today. I'm not convinced that playing without any attacking intent for most of the game is the way to go.

You carry on being as miserable as you like. The rest of us can celebrate a win at Anfield.

It also overlooks the fact we were the team most likely to score for the first twenty minutes.

But that's exactly my point, why not carry on playing like that? We looked great at that point, could have gone on and scored more. These type of performances either end up being described as superb and deserved when the opposition are wasteful but it can also backfire as it did on numerous occasions last season. Of course it's great that we got the win today, ironically 2 years ago we won even more convincingly there.

And if we had gone gung-ho and left gaps at the back, that could have been described as naive had we conceded and dropped the points.  We'll never know, but what we do know is that the way we went tactically resulted in a win, so we can't say it was wrong.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 13, 2014, 11:15:21 PM
When Baker and Clark played alongside eachother, they were an issue. When Vlaar had to be mindful of an inexperienced centre back partner, the central defence was an issue.

Regarding Baker, I wouldn't go from one extreme to another based on one game. He played well today, no doubt. However, I hope Vlaar and Okore are back soon. Then for Baker to get into the team, it will mean that he's regularly impressing in training.

I wonder whether Clark will be sent on loan to a Championship team.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Archie on September 13, 2014, 11:15:59 PM
I am obviously over the moon. If 2 months ago someone had told me that we'd have won at Anfield with a defence composed by Hutton, Senderos, Baker and Cyssoko, I would have thought that he was joking!
The team seems to have found an identity and a solid defence. And still we didn't play Okorè, Benteke, and Sanchez.
We  should not have renounced to play in the second half, tough. 99 times out of 100 to build a Maginot line in the box is the best way to concede goals.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 11:19:32 PM

The centre backs never were the issue,

I think that is correct.

I'm not sure on that, there were some pretty diabolical individual performances by the centre halves as well.
Not to my knowledge. The pressure was largely down the flanks and that exposes the CB's to breaking point.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 13, 2014, 11:21:20 PM
Baker Man Of The Match at Anfield. Literally incredible.
What is incredible is the difference in our defence this season.  Liverpool could have played for another two hours and never would have scored.

We looked awesome in defence.   Loving it.   Not sure what RK is doing but by god it works.   We now have a platform to build on. 

Other than that pissed off as had 2.4 at 500/1.  Useless wankers:)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 13, 2014, 11:22:41 PM
I am obviously over the moon. If 2 months ago someone had told me that we'd have won at Anfield with a defence composed by Hutton, Senderos, Baker and Cyssoko, I would have thought that he was joking!
The team seems to have found an identity and a solid defence. And still we didn't play Okorè, Benteke, and Sanchez.
We  should not have renounced to play in the second half, tough. 99 times out of 100 to build a Maginot line in the box is the best way to concede goals.

This season we've looked very well organised and you can see the experience in the back line. It's good to know that we're capable of throwing a blanket over the pitch when we've got a lead at places like that. However, I agree that it would be better if we could add to that in future by having better ball retention and offering an effective threat on the counter (which we're capable of).
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 11:23:19 PM
What's great is I know believe we can win a game 1-0, and that makes a huge difference.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 13, 2014, 11:24:37 PM
Villa Park will be rocking next Saturday.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 13, 2014, 11:27:16 PM
I haven't seen any comments about this but we actually looked a threat from set-pieces today. It was good to see Westwood whipping it in rather than dropping it in. As well as the goal, Senderos missed a great chance to make it 2-0 from a free kick.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 13, 2014, 11:28:25 PM
Also, you can see a team that plays for each other.   

We have team spirit again.    Been missing for a long time.

Min  3rd finish.  :)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 13, 2014, 11:29:46 PM
I haven't seen any comments about this but we actually looked a threat from set-pieces today. It was good to see Westwood whipping it in rather than dropping it in. As well as the goal, Senderos missed a great chance to make it 2-0 from a free kick.
We can also defend free kicks and corners. 
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 13, 2014, 11:34:00 PM
Quietest walk back across Stanley Park ever. I had to keep my voice down during my phone conversation with Mr Shin, just in case I woke the natives from their zombie like walks.

Somehow the drive back down the M5/M6 didn't seem as long as normal. I even had time to stop at Strensham, where I had to try not to act too smug when I encountered a minibus of southern Scousers.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 13, 2014, 11:34:47 PM
44 mins into MOTD and here come Villa
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 13, 2014, 11:35:38 PM
44 mins into MOTD and here come Villa

It didn't start until 11pm because of the Last night at the Proms.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 13, 2014, 11:35:46 PM
Gabby's physique is tremendous.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 13, 2014, 11:36:12 PM
Also, you can see a team that plays for each other.   

We have team spirit again.    Been missing for a long time.

Min  3rd finish.  :)
You could see the players loving the win at the end of the game - embracing, shaking hands, fists pumping etc...and acknowledging the fans...a great feeling for them as well as us.
Spirit indeed!
UTV!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: SoccerHQ on September 13, 2014, 11:37:12 PM
Anyone got a GIF of near the end when Rodgers was standing just looking bemused on the touchline and about 10 Liverpool fans directly behind him were walking out, thought one was going to tap him on the head as they left!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 11:37:17 PM
So far the highlights have reflected our dominance of the first 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 13, 2014, 11:40:23 PM
Lambert's stubble  ;D

Looks like he's been on the booze for the past week.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 13, 2014, 11:40:31 PM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?

However, I guess that they edit in favour of the winning team and that was probably all Villa's attacks
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 11:43:21 PM
MOTD were pretty complimentary with regards to us to be fair.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 13, 2014, 11:46:09 PM
I think abolishing a "bomb squad" has to be good for the players as a collective. Psychologically I'd say it's an awful idea to see colleagues , possibly mates castigated by the management. No idea who's idea it was , perhaps the 2 sacked bully's
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 13, 2014, 11:46:10 PM
I didn't realise that Phil had actually kicked/tripped Mario. From where I was by the corner flag I thought that he'd just fallen over
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: N'Rexy on September 13, 2014, 11:49:09 PM
Aston Villa. You are a lovely thing at times. Today was exceptional.

Something very fundamental has changed at our club in the last 3 months.  Its soul has returned.

We are starting to mean something again.

I have hope again. I haven't had that for 3 years.

You Lions!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: mrastonvilla on September 13, 2014, 11:49:20 PM
I think abolishing a "bomb squad" has to be good for the players as a collective. Psychologically I'd say it's an awful idea to see colleagues , possibly mates castigated by the management. No idea who's idea it was , perhaps the 2 sacked bully's

I think Hutton hinted it was Lerners idea in his interview after either the Stoke or Newcastle match
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: mr woo on September 13, 2014, 11:51:13 PM

The centre backs never were the issue,

I think that is correct.

I'm not sure on that, there were some pretty diabolical individual performances by the centre halves as well.
Not to my knowledge. The pressure was largely down the flanks and that exposes the CB's to breaking point.

Yep. Spot on.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 13, 2014, 11:53:27 PM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?
I can't think of a single thing that happened in the match that they should have shown but didn't.

Half of the match was Liverpool's centre-backs passing it back and forth - and that doesn't make great television.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 13, 2014, 11:54:08 PM
Aston Villa. You are a lovely thing at times. Today was exceptional.

Something very fundamental has changed at our club in the last 3 months.  Its soul has returned.

We are starting to mean something again.

I have hope again. I haven't had that for 3 years.

You Lions!!!
This!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 11:54:53 PM

The centre backs never were the issue,

I think that is correct.

I'm not sure on that, there were some pretty diabolical individual performances by the centre halves as well.
Not to my knowledge. The pressure was largely down the flanks and that exposes the CB's to breaking point.

Yep. Spot on.

Don't get me wrong, our full backs and also the protection of the defence by the midfield last season were awful most of the time. However let's not be too revisionist, our centre halves and in particular Baker made some appalling errors too. This season though it's started well and long may it continue.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 13, 2014, 11:56:36 PM
Great stuff Villa, you all played like lions!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 13, 2014, 11:57:33 PM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?
I can't think of a single thing that happened in the match that they should have shown but didn't.

Half of the match was Liverpool's centre-backs passing it back and forth - and that doesn't make great television.

Just Baker's sliding block near the end, I think that merited showing.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 13, 2014, 11:58:59 PM
May as well stick it here as well. I love how we look a team again, and also how much the players enjoy winning.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/01a_zpsa0db91b6.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PaulWinch again on September 13, 2014, 11:59:34 PM
Great pic.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: The Left Side on September 14, 2014, 12:01:13 AM
Great pic.

Indeed
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 12:01:46 AM
I think Brad enjoyed it.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/01a_zps208045ca.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 12:03:41 AM
After the goal. Just look at his face, just look at his face!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/01a_zpsb912fdbb.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: TonyD on September 14, 2014, 12:05:51 AM
At least it looks like we aren't going down this season. !!!   
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 12:09:26 AM
May as well stick it here as well. I love how we look a team again, and also how much the players enjoy winning.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/01a_zpsa0db91b6.jpg)
Swiss Phil. More like Party Phil.
He's got a great celebration face.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 14, 2014, 12:12:13 AM
Slight tangent, but our away kit this year is very nice.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 12:13:55 AM
Slight tangent, but our away kit this year is very nice.
Yep. The only change I'd have had to day was a light blue short . But that's nit picking.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: papa lazarou on September 14, 2014, 12:28:36 AM
A brilliant result but rather than get a match analysis from you bunch of one-eyed amateurs, i'll tune in to TalkSport tomorrow to get an in-depth professional diagnosis from Micky Quinn.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 14, 2014, 12:36:00 AM
Slight tangent, but our away kit this year is very nice.
Yep. The only change I'd have had to day was a light blue short . But that's nit picking.

Lose the Macron men, drop the silly trim on the sleeves and put our 70's crest on and it's perfect.

Drop the sponsor as well but that's unrealistic.

Nottingham Forest's away shirt for this season is like ours but better:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-kvsQqKuaEQ8/U5mfSUpxmmI/AAAAAAAAYAI/somekW-cimM/s1600/Nottingham-Forest-14-15-Away-Kit+(2).jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 12:45:11 AM
Yep that Forest kit is nice.

Anyone remember the 77 win at anfield 2-1 Andy Gray both goals , white top , light blue shorts , white socks , Umbro.
As a kid watching that on MOTD was a magical evening, it's always good to win there , still.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Gregorys Boy on September 14, 2014, 12:52:17 AM
Awesome win today.  We got both sides of the game just about right.  Looked good from set pieces in the first half and maybe should have had at least a two goal lead going into the break.  Second half we defended the lead really well and restricted them to very few chances.  They were poor, and we were hard working, and again look good as a team.   Well deserved win.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 12:53:48 AM
Yep that Forest kit is nice.

Anyone remember the 77 win at anfield 2-1 Andy Gray both goals , white top , light blue shorts , white socks , Umbro.
As a kid watching that on MOTD was a magical evening, it's always good to win there , still.


White shorts! According to this anyway.

(http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article375334.ece/alternates/s615/PM2631320@Colour%20Negative%203.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 12:56:13 AM
Thanks PWS. All white then.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 12:56:44 AM
Although I know the one you mean.

(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1975-1981-change.gif)(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1975-1976-change.gif)(http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Aston_Villa/images/aston-villa-1974-1975-change.gif)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 14, 2014, 01:00:26 AM
Is the Stripey Filth shirt this season also in tribute to our '82 Euro win?
Nice touch if so, and a timely reminder that they never have been, or ever will be, what they think they are!
UTV!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 14, 2014, 01:07:00 AM
Great win!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Hairbandinho on September 14, 2014, 01:22:54 AM
It's a great start to the season, with some more hard games to come.

That said we have Tekkers and Kozak still to come back..so it looks promising so far. We seem to have a plan and a structure that works well for the players we have. It  also seems odd that by having two full backs in form the defence looks much better. Maybe that was the defensive problem all along!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 14, 2014, 01:55:10 AM
Great victory, made Liverpool look very ordinary (am I on my own in thinking they have bought badly?). Defensively really assured, hard working throughout. We look so much tougher all over the park. Well done Lambert!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 14, 2014, 02:12:44 AM
Liverpool look like they have done what Spurs did, which is take a huge fee for an exceptional player and try and replace him with 6 that are nowhere near as good while still spending huge money. Had they gone and spent 40 million on 1 forward they would probably have been better off.

I hope Senderos is not retrospectively done for the kick.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 14, 2014, 02:17:37 AM
I think he will be because of the Liverpool love fest that exists. Senderos was booked against Hull for exactly the same thing.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: DeKuip on September 14, 2014, 02:20:38 AM
Yep that Forest kit is nice.

Anyone remember the 77 win at anfield 2-1 Andy Gray both goals , white top , light blue shorts , white socks , Umbro.
As a kid watching that on MOTD was a magical evening, it's always good to win there , still.


White shorts! According to this anyway.

(http://i1.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/article375334.ece/alternates/s615/PM2631320@Colour%20Negative%203.jpg)

We have a habit of getting good results in all white against teams wearing all red.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Matt C on September 14, 2014, 02:27:00 AM
Lovern cost more than the whole Villa starting XI.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Steve67 on September 14, 2014, 02:32:55 AM
Yes Matt, I raised an eyebrow when they spent 20mill on him. I really don't think he's at that level.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: JD on September 14, 2014, 04:26:19 AM
What a great win. Well done to all of the players who played today.

Liverpool didn't look threatening at all. That is some achievement by our defence at Anfield.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pbavfckuwait on September 14, 2014, 06:10:17 AM
Baker great game, Swiss Phil can now release Super Mario from his pocket, but the defending today was not just the defenders, Andi did so much work to stop their fullback getting involved, Cleverley the same on the other flank, that was a whole team fighting for each other, not pretty to look at, at times, but bloody effective.
That spirit I believe is down to the introduction of one Mr. Keane and fair play to Lambert for appointing him.
God you can make me happy at times Villa.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Des Little on September 14, 2014, 07:25:24 AM
It's that all-white kit what won it. Love that kit.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 14, 2014, 07:41:13 AM
Fine win. Very pleased
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 14, 2014, 08:00:36 AM
A brilliant result but rather than get a match analysis from you bunch of one-eyed amateurs, i'll tune in to TalkSport tomorrow to get an in-depth professional diagnosis from Micky Quinn.

Fat thick twat had to admit we played well. Talkshite did their usual tokenistic thing where the absence of Vlaar got the briefest of mentions and yet the absence of a player who was nowhere near his level in the WC, Sturridge, was analysed to death. Lots of mentions about Balotelli having had flu, Sterling not starting et al, but nothing about Benteke or Kozak being out, or Okore working his way back to fitness
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on September 14, 2014, 08:03:17 AM
I was a very proud Villan watching the match in a bar in Glasgow last night. Stuck out like a sore thumb, mind, but the locals didn't seem to mind. Great smash and grab by Villa, second in the league and looking like a team. Bring on the Arse.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: fredm on September 14, 2014, 08:04:13 AM
It seems obvious that there is a different feel about the team. The two who were sacked obviously had a major negative influence on things and this has been replaced by the positivity that Keane has brought. Add in the introduction of a bit of experience, by way of the re-introduction of Hutton etc. and the adding of Senderos and Richrdson, and there is a completely different mindset throughout the club.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 14, 2014, 08:15:50 AM
Liverpool look like they have done what Spurs did, which is take a huge fee for an exceptional player and try and replace him with 6 that are nowhere near as good while still spending huge money. Had they gone and spent 40 million on 1 forward they would probably have been better off.

I hope Senderos is not retrospectively done for the kick.
I don't think he will be. It was very silly, but not violent. They tend not to bother with anything that isn't violent conduct after the match.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 14, 2014, 08:43:11 AM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?
I can't think of a single thing that happened in the match that they should have shown but didn't.

Half of the match was Liverpool's centre-backs passing it back and forth - and that doesn't make great television.

Just Baker's sliding block near the end, I think that merited showing.
listened to the small faces baker song on you tube never heard it before- very good, but greatest ever?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 14, 2014, 08:54:07 AM
Three 'Liverpool fans' in the pub yesterday, all of whom looked as if they had visited the city fewer times than I have and with south coast/cockney accents, debating whether Cissokho had ever played for them...
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: flybo on September 14, 2014, 08:59:23 AM
of to watch the game on Bin-Dippers tv :-)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 14, 2014, 08:59:54 AM
Lovern cost more than the whole Villa starting XI.
and he looked pretty good too. But fuck 'em, we won at Anfield!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2014, 09:11:47 AM
of to watch the game on Bin-Dippers tv :-)
Full match at 18.00.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on September 14, 2014, 09:13:08 AM
Fucking great smile on my face...thank you Villa and a special mention to the away support...a library indeed :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2014, 09:17:05 AM
I was a very proud Villan watching the match in a bar in Glasgow last night. Stuck out like a sore thumb, mind, but the locals didn't seem to mind. Great smash and grab by Villa, second in the league and looking like a team. Bring on the Arse.
However it was anything but smash and grab.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 14, 2014, 09:17:34 AM
Nice to see the players go across at the end and acknowledge the fans, we do look to be kind of back on track again- very pleasing.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: The Laughing Policeman on September 14, 2014, 09:21:47 AM
We only need 30 more points to avoid relegation. ;)
Can't wait to see The Beast or Kozak back in the side, we'll show more attacking intent then.
Onward and upward.
Oh I've just noticed we can't go much further up. :)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ron Manager on September 14, 2014, 09:44:33 AM
Is Joe Cole fit? I noticed he didn't make the subs bench.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Clampy on September 14, 2014, 09:46:43 AM
Blimey, that was a long second half. We defended really well and hopefully now people will think twice before writing players like Baker off as 'terrible'. We could have done with a big man up front to hold the ball up although I thought Weimann was bloody great in the first half, especially tracking back and helping midfield. With the pinstripeyfilth still looking woeful, a perfect day all round.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on September 14, 2014, 09:48:19 AM
I was a very proud Villan watching the match in a bar in Glasgow last night. Stuck out like a sore thumb, mind, but the locals didn't seem to mind. Great smash and grab by Villa, second in the league and looking like a team. Bring on the Arse.
However it was anything but smash and grab.

Liverpool controlled the gme, had most of the possession, at home, and we nicked it one-nil. Classic smash and grab.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 09:53:07 AM
Obviously The Barrymore factor helped enormously. All white .

I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 14, 2014, 09:55:09 AM
Is Joe Cole fit? I noticed he didn't make the subs bench.
I'd completely forgotten about him.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Deano's Mullet on September 14, 2014, 09:57:08 AM
Was that Chris Herd in the glasses sat on the bench behind Lambert?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2014, 10:00:09 AM
Liverpool controlled the gme, had most of the possession, at home, and we nicked it one-nil. Classic smash and grab.
OK I was at the match I didn't have the feeing that it was smash and grab. I thought defensively we controlled the game. They had almost zero chances.  To me classic smash and grab is desperate defending, half a dozen saves by the keeper, a few cleared off the line etc etc.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: VillaAlways on September 14, 2014, 10:04:40 AM
Just watched Rodgers post match interview and he said that they were competing on a budget? Can someone remind me how much they spent in the Summer?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
It was like an ugly George Graham era arsenal win 1-0. Boring boring arsenal, except we didn't play the offside trap like they used to.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Jimbo on September 14, 2014, 10:14:23 AM
Liverpool controlled the gme, had most of the possession, at home, and we nicked it one-nil. Classic smash and grab.
OK I was at the match I didn't have the feeing that it was smash and grab. I thought defensively we controlled the game. They had almost zero chances.  To me classic smash and grab is desperate defending, half a dozen saves by the keeper, a few cleared off the line etc etc.

There's no question we defended like lions and snuffed out their goal threat, although they did come close once or twice. But there's no doubt they controlled the game. Ah, who gives a fuck, we won.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 14, 2014, 10:21:24 AM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?
I can't think of a single thing that happened in the match that they should have shown but didn't.

Half of the match was Liverpool's centre-backs passing it back and forth - and that doesn't make great television.

Just Baker's sliding block near the end, I think that merited showing.
listened to the small faces baker song on you tube never heard it before- very good, but greatest ever?

They have a lot more going for them than Song of a Baker.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 14, 2014, 10:25:58 AM
Just watched Rodgers post match interview and he said that they were competing on a budget? Can someone remind me how much they spent in the Summer?

A net spend of £36m, according to the grauniad. So, a £110+m "budget" outlay is not enough to compete with the Aston Villas of this world. Nice feeling!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: kipeye on September 14, 2014, 10:31:47 AM
I thought Cleverley made a difference holding the middle together and had a very good debut. I hope that continues.
Have to say I was impressed with Brendan Rogers, didn't make any excuses, congratulated the Villa and did not get drawn into calling Senderos. Swiss Phil was pretty good, very effective in the air but he will be a marked man by refs if he tries his little tricks too often.
Thought Hutton was decent but slipped into his old habit of diving in. Cissokho was very good as was the rest of the team. I was again pleasantly surprised overall as I expected us to start very badly this season. We are not great yet, or even particularly good, but very encouraging and well done to the lads.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Villafirst on September 14, 2014, 10:32:11 AM
The squad looks suddenly a lot deeper that you almost forget Cole, Clark, Herd, Lowton etc who are not even making the bench!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 10:47:50 AM
Hutton rolled back the years with that reducer on Sterling. That was straight out of the 70's, flying squad, get yer trousers on you're nicked.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: kipeye on September 14, 2014, 10:51:35 AM
The squad looks suddenly a lot deeper that you almost forget Cole, Clark, Herd, Lowton etc who are not even making the bench!
I think the strength of the team might now be defined by who we leave out. I don't miss those that are playing at Stoke and elsewhere and while the above are reasonable to come off the bench, none of them are likely starters except maybe for Grealish.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 14, 2014, 10:52:44 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 14, 2014, 10:52:51 AM
Hutton rolled back the years with that reducer on Sterling. That was straight out of the 70's, flying squad, get yer trousers on you're nicked.

Great wasn't it. Hutton looked so innocent afterwards too. We were all laughing in the pub. One of the best things about the Villa winning and getting a bit more on track is the transformation it also effects on H and V. It's great to see everyone happy and having something to feel proud about. I'm even starting to get interested a bit more in football generally again.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 14, 2014, 10:53:43 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.

It's what fans do, almost all of the time, and without realising it, me included
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: supertom on September 14, 2014, 11:03:55 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.
I think Huttons was late and rash more than anything. I think in the case of Grealish he was clearly targeted for intimidation as within 10 seconds of coming on Rosenior absolutely mullered him and was nowhere near the ball.
Of course Hull won't be the last to specifically target a player, and indeed we targeted Mario yesterday. It didn't work for Hull, it did work for us though.
You do need a bit of nastiness in this league sometimes though. Chelsea have won titles with it.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 11:04:56 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.
I think Hutton genuinely went for the ball. He just took everything in it's path too .
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 14, 2014, 11:10:30 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.
I think Hutton genuinely went for the ball. He just took everything in it's path too .

It's exactly that lack of judgement that made him such a liability last time out.

Hopefully just a minor aberration. One incident in four games instead of what felt like one very four minutes under McLeish.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 14, 2014, 11:16:43 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.

I thought something similar last night, also Senderos on Baloteli.  It definitely looked like he'd been sent out with the message to rough him up / try and wind him up.

Obviously on nowhere near the same scale though.

Having slept on it the Hutton challenge was a one off incident and looked more like a hopelessly misjudged tackle, rather than a pre-meditated assault which was what the Grealish treatment looked like in the end.

The Senderos stuff, other than the kick, which was just bloody stupid, it wasn't anything more than the sort of needling / ragging up that's been going on since the game began, just that there was a bit more focus on him (at least on the coverage here) after the kick.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 14, 2014, 11:18:37 AM
I think there was a bit of a difference. Our players appeared to lose their heads, whereas Hull had a strategy against Grealish.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Gompedyret on September 14, 2014, 11:26:34 AM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.
I think Hutton genuinely went for the ball. He just took everything in it's path too .

It may or may not have been on purpose, but I like to think that Sterling was, in fact, intimidated.

And: how bad a person am I for really enjoying Senderos' little go at Super Mario (https://vine.co/v/Oa1ObFKa9Zn)? It was just so shamelessly cheeky.

In general: Over the moon with the result. Really good, clean debut by Cleverley, though nothing spectacular. So far we've a amazing points to goal ratio, and what to say about the defense? The only goal we've conceded we had to score ourselves!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: tomd2103 on September 14, 2014, 11:49:18 AM
Just watched Rodgers post match interview and he said that they were competing on a budget? Can someone remind me how much they spent in the Summer?

They aren't the same team without Suarez.  See Spurs without Bale last season. 
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Villa in Denmark on September 14, 2014, 11:51:30 AM
Just watched Rodgers post match interview and he said that they were competing on a budget? Can someone remind me how much they spent in the Summer?

They aren't the same team without Suarez.  See Spurs without Bale last season. 

A journo over here compared the two situations during the international break. He wasn't too impressed with the way either club had gone about things.

He called it real life Brewster's Millions
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Witton Warrior on September 14, 2014, 11:58:56 AM
Oh joy! Just had a surprise visit from my Dingle-born redscouse supporting brother-in-law to be.
Decent lad but he was still in shock - my sister (a Villan of course) had been ragging him all last night and my lad met him at the door with laughing and pointing...
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: robbo1874 on September 14, 2014, 12:16:51 PM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?
I can't think of a single thing that happened in the match that they should have shown but didn't.

Half of the match was Liverpool's centre-backs passing it back and forth - and that doesn't make great television.

Just Baker's sliding block near the end, I think that merited showing.
listened to the small faces baker song on you tube never heard it before- very good, but greatest ever?

They have a lot more going for them than Song of a Baker.
I know. Hard to look past All or Nothing?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: barrysleftfoot on September 14, 2014, 12:21:11 PM
 I thought Huttons foul was a "good" one on account that it was a message to Sterling, who at the time looked as if he was threatening to run the show.

 A good old fashioned let him know you are here challenge.You want to see a bad challenge, look up Gerrards on Boateng a few years ago.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 14, 2014, 12:23:25 PM
May as well stick it here as well. I love how we look a team again, and also how much the players enjoy winning.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v436/EnglishPride2004/01a_zpsa0db91b6.jpg)

Great to see.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ryu on September 14, 2014, 12:28:34 PM
Does really look like their's a great team spirit at the moment.  My female housemate who couldn't care less about football even mentioned it after seeing them celebrating on MOTD last night.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 12:29:25 PM
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=722035741166657
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: onje_villa on September 14, 2014, 12:30:07 PM
We can't really be laying into Hull players for their treatment of Grealish and then praising Hutton for doing the exact same thing on Sterling.

I genuinely thought it was a good tackle. Got the ball. I'm obviously wrong judging by the reaction but that was my initial feeling. Lallana's was far worse.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Pete3206 on September 14, 2014, 12:30:58 PM
'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fan on RAWK wrote
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Terrible decision to only allow Villa fans in the ground

Snigger
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Mortimer's Bear on September 14, 2014, 12:35:27 PM
Against my better judgement I purchased the Mercury this morning thinking I'd actually enjoy reading the match report for once, what the fuck have they done to our badge? Did anyone else spot this?

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj631/Deano_Dalian/8BF8FF1E-8D24-4D32-B6F0-156702F3787B_zpscdre1cvy.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/Deano_Dalian/media/8BF8FF1E-8D24-4D32-B6F0-156702F3787B_zpscdre1cvy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on September 14, 2014, 12:38:08 PM
'The Mighty Reds YNWA' fan on RAWK wrote
Quote
Terrible decision to only allow Villa fans in the ground

Snigger
a genuine lol from me...

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 14, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
Liverpool controlled the gme, had most of the possession, at home, and we nicked it one-nil. Classic smash and grab.
OK I was at the match I didn't have the feeing that it was smash and grab. I thought defensively we controlled the game. They had almost zero chances.  To me classic smash and grab is desperate defending, half a dozen saves by the keeper, a few cleared off the line etc etc.

Liverpool had the bulk of possession but I expect a liot of it was just Lovren and Sakho passing the ball to one another or receiving a back-pass from one of their midfielders being closed down by Villa.

Jamie Redknap did an excellent analysis of this post-game
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Monty on September 14, 2014, 12:59:35 PM
I agree with Olaftab. Usually having so little possession will have the knock-on effect of being controlled in a game, but actually we're turning into one of those rare teams who actually control games without the ball. This is really hard to do, especially on a budget, as you have to take a huge percentage of your chances when you do get them, and also you get very tired chasing the ball so much. We are now good at this, which is quite something. Very 90s-Serie A.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Rioch is King on September 14, 2014, 01:18:43 PM
Might have been mentioned elsewhere but - six Englishmen and a Scot in our starting line up yesterday.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 14, 2014, 01:22:28 PM
Liverpool had the bulk of possession but I expect a liot of it was just Lovren and Sakho passing the ball to one another or receiving a back-pass from one of their midfielders being closed down by Villa.

Agree.

They spent a huge amount of time just knocking it sideways to each other around the halfway line. They were never going to hurt us like that, even if it does make the possession stats look nicer for them.

Normally, last few years, when we have had a good result like this, it has meant long spells of hanging on for dear life - throwing ourselves in front of everything, battling to fend the opposition off.

Yesterday, I don't think we looked like that at all. It looked like we were getting it spot on tactically and making it hard for them to do anything. I thought we looked entirely comfortable throughout, pretty much, which is reflected by them having just the one shot on target.

Also noticeable this season is we've started working our balls off to win the ball back when we get the chance, something we did a lot of in Lambert's first season, but hardly at all last season.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: WALTERS WARRIORS on September 14, 2014, 01:32:34 PM
When you think that Baker and Sendeross would of probably been our second choice pairing after Vlaar and Okore. That really was a brilliant performance. Also a very good performance from Richardson .........
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Percy McCarthy on September 14, 2014, 01:40:35 PM
Was that even 5 minutes of highlights?
I can't think of a single thing that happened in the match that they should have shown but didn't.

Half of the match was Liverpool's centre-backs passing it back and forth - and that doesn't make great television.

Just Baker's sliding block near the end, I think that merited showing.
listened to the small faces baker song on you tube never heard it before- very good, but greatest ever?

They have a lot more going for them than Song of a Baker.
I know. Hard to look past All or Nothing?

Sorry for going off topic everyone. Perfect looks, perfect clothes, great chemistry, great attitude, the greatest white singer of all time, also a great front-man, great songwriters, great singles, great b-sides, great albums.

And the clincher - an Ikette:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3rLF-QAS67I
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on September 14, 2014, 01:56:47 PM
Someone's a bit bitter. From F365.

Quote
And On Liverpool's 'Performance'
So it's 2:30am here in china and I've just watched what I hope will be the worst game to involve liverpool all season and I feel the need to get a few things off my chest.

Firstly, Aston villa are the new stoke city. They fought, fouled and wasted as much time as they possibly could from the second they got their goal and it was awful to witness. I'm just glad I didn't pay for the pleasure.

Secondly, how could Rogers have not seen this coming? The last two times Villa have visited Anfield Lambert's "tactics" have been precisely the same. So what does he do? He starts lots of new players, most of whom are speedy, diminutive players lacking that real cutting edge too.

Finally, Gerrard says we are title contenders? I'm sorry, but on this evidence I simply do not see it.

Many predicted the obvious in that teams would now go to Anfield and defend, hoping to snatch a result. If this is how Rogers thinks we overcome this problem then he will have a lot to learn.
Rob Henry
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 14, 2014, 01:57:54 PM
I agree with Olaftab. Usually having so little possession will have the knock-on effect of being controlled in a game, but actually we're turning into one of those rare teams who actually control games without the ball. This is really hard to do, especially on a budget, as you have to take a huge percentage of your chances when you do get them, and also you get very tired chasing the ball so much. We are now good at this, which is quite something. Very 90s-Serie A.

Great minds, and all that! I was thinking similar when watching the analysis on MOTD last night; there's defending, and then there's defending like Italians. Think it was Silhill that said in the match thread that Gabby was leaving their centre-halves with the ball, and concentrating on shutting off Gerrard; switching from a diamond to a five; full-backs that are more than happy to stay at home for the vast majority of a game. Doing things like these mean you don't need to expend all your energy constantly chasing a quickly moving ball and hurling yourself into challenges, instead concentrate on denying space and nullifying the main supply lines. The early goal helped, but, from what I can gather, we then played an absolute blinder to protect it. Almost makes me think we might actually be going into games with some sort of plan. I fear for the rest of the division once we get our front two back up to speed.


*although I reserve the right to deny I ever said all of this if it's gone tits-up in six weeks' time.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 14, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
Someone's a bit bitter. From F365.

Quote
And On Liverpool's 'Performance'
So it's 2:30am here in china and I've just watched what I hope will be the worst game to involve liverpool all season and I feel the need to get a few things off my chest.

Firstly, Aston villa are the new stoke city. They fought, fouled and wasted as much time as they possibly could from the second they got their goal and it was awful to witness. I'm just glad I didn't pay for the pleasure.

Secondly, how could Rogers have not seen this coming? The last two times Villa have visited Anfield Lambert's "tactics" have been precisely the same. So what does he do? He starts lots of new players, most of whom are speedy, diminutive players lacking that real cutting edge too.

Finally, Gerrard says we are title contenders? I'm sorry, but on this evidence I simply do not see it.

Many predicted the obvious in that teams would now go to Anfield and defend, hoping to snatch a result. If this is how Rogers thinks we overcome this problem then he will have a lot to learn.
Rob Henry

Their proper supporters accept that we were the better side. Their out of towners are bitter "How dare we lose to the likes of...". It's the way of the world.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ger Regan on September 14, 2014, 02:06:35 PM
My favourite bit is how he puts the word tactics in between inverted commas.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: danno on September 14, 2014, 02:23:45 PM
No Vlaar and no Benteke.
Think that makes our win yesterday arguably more impressive than our win there two years ago.

My eyebrow was Lee Majors esque when I read Baker was starting, many apologies Nathan.

I only got to see the first 40 minutes before I went to work, and was fully expecting to read about
a Balotelli double on my lunch break.

By all accounts we were sat fairly deep but still pretty comfortable in the second half ?




Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 14, 2014, 02:34:00 PM

My eyebrow was Lee Majors esque when I read Baker was starting, many apologies Nathan.




I posted something similar on Facebook. Glad to eat humble pie on this one
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Brian Taylor on September 14, 2014, 03:07:39 PM
Unbelievably marvelous.. I felt gabby was not happy being brought off before the end and was not really celebrating..he scored Paul. He scored the goal!!!!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 14, 2014, 03:49:37 PM
Dwight Yorkes comment after lamberts interview said it all

Aston villa are a massive club and there's no better support in the country

Villa till i die

Bless him

didn't see this. He looked buzzing after that apparently. If anyone manages to find it please post it up.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Marton on September 14, 2014, 04:02:49 PM
The improved defence has been elated enough already but we are also stronger where we really needed it.
We didn´t spend much but now we got a proper PL standard (Not Championship) midfield with options.

Cleverly
Nzogbia
Delph
Westwood
Bacuna
Grealish
Sanchez
...and Cole (option for when Lambert wants to remove us from a Cup so we can focus on the League)

now just bring back "the Beast" to complete the rising Phoenix!


Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: john e on September 14, 2014, 04:07:46 PM
The reincarnation of Hutton has been the biggest miracle of all though,

 he was the most useless thing I'd seen for some time in a Villa shirt, I had zero confidence he would even be less than average, but he has slotted into that defence like a glove, and is playing some fine stuff

Quite Incredible really, I really don't know what to make of it all
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 14, 2014, 04:15:33 PM
The reincarnation of Hutton has been the biggest miracle of all though,

 he was the most useless thing I'd seen for some time in a Villa shirt, I had zero confidence he would even be less than average, but he has slotted into that defence like a glove, and is playing some fine stuff

Quite Incredible really, I really don't know what to make of it all

 ;D I know the feeling.

I was convinced Senderos would be shit for us, said it before I asked a few Arsenal fans if he was any good and they all laughed.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 14, 2014, 04:30:22 PM
Against my better judgement I purchased the Mercury this morning thinking I'd actually enjoy reading the match report for once, what the fuck have they done to our badge? Did anyone else spot this?

(http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj631/Deano_Dalian/8BF8FF1E-8D24-4D32-B6F0-156702F3787B_zpscdre1cvy.jpg) (http://s1271.photobucket.com/user/Deano_Dalian/media/8BF8FF1E-8D24-4D32-B6F0-156702F3787B_zpscdre1cvy.jpg.html)

That's for Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal and Man Utd fans who don't know where Aston Villa are from
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: OCD on September 14, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
My favourite bit is how he puts the word tactics in between inverted commas.

My favourite bit was when he couldn't spell the name of his team's manager. I know we still have people calling Clark, 'Clarke' but it's worse when it's the manager.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Richard on September 14, 2014, 04:43:45 PM
The improved defence has been elated enough already but we are also stronger where we really needed it.
We didn´t spend much but now we got a proper PL standard (Not Championship) midfield with options.

Cleverly
Nzogbia
Delph
Westwood
Bacuna
Grealish
Sanchez
...and Cole (option for when Lambert wants to remove us from a Cup so we can focus on the League)

now just bring back "the Beast" to complete the rising Phoenix!




And Richardson
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Lastfootstamper on September 14, 2014, 05:01:46 PM
Forgot I'd left the kitchen radio on TawkSpawt from yesterday. Flicked it on, Cundy doing Call Collymore. "Oh, woe is Liverpool". Not much mention of us deserving our win. Then one of theirs rang in to tell him, in his not-at-all-scouse accent, that he'll "be eating humble pie" come May when they win the league. I kid you not.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 14, 2014, 05:06:02 PM
Forgot I'd left the kitchen radio on TawkSpawt from yesterday. Flicked it on, Cundy doing Call Collymore. "Oh, woe is Liverpool". Not much mention of us deserving our win. Then one of theirs rang in to tell him, in his not-at-all-scouse accent, that he'll "be eating humble pie" come May when they win the league. I kid you not.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=722035741166657
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 06:12:40 PM
Lads full game on Liverpool TV now if anyone wants more.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2014, 06:46:31 PM
I got so nervous during the second half that I took a couple of breaks by walking into the living room and watching a minute or two of Tumble. Of my own free will. Obviously my mind was still on the game. Except maybe the bit when that Lucy from some reality TV show was cavorting acrobatically.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Matt Collins on September 14, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
I thought we were controlling the game as they passed sideways endlessly

But we should have been able to get out a little more than we did. Keep 8 behind the ball by all means, but the front three couldn't get out

I'm not complaining at all though. Fantastic start to the season and well beyond my expectations. Feeling quite positive about the arsenal game too. A good draw, with us genuinely competing and not just holding on, would be fine by me. A win and I'm fully in 'losing my shit' mode.

They look vulnerable through the middle to me.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: London Villan on September 14, 2014, 07:32:35 PM
There were a few times when we had a time and space and did hoof it away. We could have passed it better or at least played Gabby into the space behind the defender. Minor gripe though from a great, solid performance.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on September 14, 2014, 09:49:36 PM
Ive never seen so many grown men wearing LFC replica gear with a number and a players name on the back, the train was full of them going back to the midlands all trying to outdo each other with how pissed of they were at losing to little old Villa and what such loyal fans they were in continuing to watch them on the telly next week after the hardship of only finishing second and spending a hundred million quid in the summer, cameras round their necks, their only connection to Liverpool laughing at shite John Bishop scetches to try and fit in.

I dont know what ached more, my feet from standing or my face from sneering at them,
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 14, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Looking forward to the office in Central London tomorrow where we have 5 or 6 plastic scouse reds. 3 Asian and 3 from Surrey / Kent / Berkshire.
Massive wind up time.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: peter w on September 14, 2014, 10:15:40 PM
Two things. First the Senderos thing. talk about mountains and molehills and looking for excuses. All he did was flick out a leg and trip Balotelli. The over-reaction from Liverpool fans unable to accept the defeat is laughable. Getting into Mark Lawrenson's team of the week for the second time this season the ex-centre half, and Liverpool player summed it up perfectly:

He gave Mario Balotelli a couple of kicks just for good measure and caused problems for Liverpool in both boxes.
Welcome back to the Premier League Mario.

I'm a very nervous watcher on the telly but apart from the usual clock-watching and always believe we are going to lose (only accepted that we'd get at least a point by the 94th minute) I was never unduly worried. We did look comfortable throughout.

10 points out of 12 is as excellent a start as we could have dreamt of. That pre-season dread as the season draws ever nearer seem light years away now. Its still likely that we are going to have 3 defeats on the bounce but there is reason for genuine optimism. Hopefully if the next 3 games are all defeats hopefully the togetherness of this team is still intact because they look like a comfortable mid-table team that should be pushing top 8 with a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: richard moore on September 14, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Ive never seen so many grown men wearing LFC replica gear with a number and a players name on the back, the train was full of them going back to the midlands all trying to outdo each other with how pissed of they were at losing to little old Villa and what such loyal fans they were in continuing to watch them on the telly next week after the hardship of only finishing second and spending a hundred million quid in the summer, cameras round their necks, their only connection to Liverpool laughing at shite John Bishop scetches to try and fit in.

I dont know what ached more, my feet from standing or my face from sneering at them,

Excellent. I had three of them in front of me in the pub. About as scouse as my cat. Don't forget the half and half scarves, several of which I observed in the crowd. They really are as patronising as they come. As I posted previously, there was a lovely moment in the pub where the Sky commentator said, after the game 'a staggering win for Villa' and a Villa fan shouted out 'fuck off, it's only Liverpool' in a very loud brummie voice. The three twats in front of me didn't like it all, especially as we all cheered
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 14, 2014, 10:56:51 PM
Brummie Reds, whether they support United or Liverpool really annoy me. I think the worst part of it is that I actually start respecting bluenoses a lot more once I spend time in glory hunter company.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: olaftab on September 14, 2014, 11:30:23 PM
Some stats here and half marathon by Ash!
DISTANCE COVERED STATS
                                  MINS     KM       MILES
Liverpool total                     114.95     71.4
Philippe Coutinho       90        11.92       7.4
Jordan Henderson      90        11.84       7.3
Steven Gerrard           90        11.10       6.9
Aston Villa total                   113.78     70.7
Ashley Westwood       90        12.33       7.6
Fabian Delph              90        11.79       7.3
Kieran Richardson      90        10.97       6.8
Data courtesy of the EA SPORTS Player Performance Index, the Official Player Rating Index of the Barclays Premier League


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2754447/Liverpool-0-1-Aston-Villa-Gabby-Agbonlahor-strike-sees-Brendan-Rodgers-suffer-second-defeat.html#ixzz3DKbLRyTy
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Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: thick_mike on September 14, 2014, 11:41:04 PM
Interesting that the received wisdom is that the team with possession "lets the ball do the work", whereas the team conceding possession has to chase to close down, leading to fatigue in the latter part of the game...yet Liverpool had to cover a greater distance than villa as a team.

Oh, and a marathon is 26 miles (or so), Ash did 7.6, so not quite a half marathon...but he still put in a shift.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Karlos96 on September 15, 2014, 12:04:29 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxhawHQCUAAHxno.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: usav on September 15, 2014, 03:28:36 AM
The reincarnation of Hutton has been the biggest miracle of all though,

I never felt that, to be honest.  I thought he had a few bad games and certainly some rash tackles, however overall I think his crapness was overplayed on this site.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: peter w on September 15, 2014, 08:05:17 AM
Another thing, that shot from Coutinho that hit the post was actually deflected off Senderos's head. More good defending but no-one picked it up but focussed on the shot itself.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 15, 2014, 08:38:45 AM
Looking forward to the office in Central London tomorrow where we have 5 or 6 plastic scouse reds. 3 Asian and 3 from Surrey / Kent / Berkshire.
Massive wind up time.

I work in Warwick. Half a dozen of them here from:

Hereford.
Grimsby. To be fair Liverpool are his 'big' team as still watches the Mariners a few times a season.
Sheldon. Yes near B'ham airport
Rugby - he is working from home mysteriously today.
Cambridge
and one of them is actually from Liverpool.

There is also a new scouse bloke but not sure if he is a Red or Blue. Will find out today.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Smirker on September 15, 2014, 09:12:08 AM
Looking forward to the office in Central London tomorrow where we have 5 or 6 plastic scouse reds. 3 Asian and 3 from Surrey / Kent / Berkshire.
Massive wind up time.

silhillvilla walking into the office like:

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-batY7xkSdoY/Uo8jSAk5VqI/AAAAAAAAH-Y/DS56X9PHtQ0/s400/nas-belly-intro-o.gif)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2014, 09:30:03 AM
I have been in work for an hour and nobody has spoken to me about football yet.

If I crane my neck I can see 8 Liverpool fans. Its as silent as the Kop.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 15, 2014, 09:33:07 AM
Are you a Prison Officer?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 15, 2014, 09:38:50 AM
Are you a Prison Officer?

Ha ha very good.

Or a clerk at the Magistrates Court
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2014, 09:51:20 AM
"And CD knocks it straight back over his head for six runs"

Welll played sir.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2014, 09:52:48 AM
The work football group has a bout 20 Dippers in it. I intend to send an e-mail to them all with a picture.

Would any of you witty folk care to assist in finding a picture, which sums up the "hahahahaha fuck off you gobby Scouse twats!" that I am aiming for without actually saying that?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: cdward on September 15, 2014, 10:11:09 AM
The work football group has a bout 20 Dippers in it. I intend to send an e-mail to them all with a picture.

Would any of you witty folk care to assist in finding a picture, which sums up the "hahahahaha fuck off you gobby Scouse twats!" that I am aiming for without actually saying that?
Just use the Gabby finger to the lips/hush one
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2014, 10:12:47 AM
The work football group has a bout 20 Dippers in it. I intend to send an e-mail to them all with a picture.

Would any of you witty folk care to assist in finding a picture, which sums up the "hahahahaha fuck off you gobby Scouse twats!" that I am aiming for without actually saying that?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/09/13/1410632854715_wps_30_LIVERPOOL_ENGLAND_SEPTEMB.jpg)
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2014, 10:19:54 AM
Good call Lee.

I have given the e-mail the strap line of "Balotelli injured while falling out of Senderos' pocket". That should have the black arm-band brigade biting.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: AV82EC on September 15, 2014, 10:27:12 AM
Good call Lee.

I have given the e-mail the strap line of "Balotelli injured while falling out of Senderos' pocket". That should have the black arm-band brigade biting.

Applauds....
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2014, 10:28:00 AM
I have some fishes on my rod! They're not really happy at Senderos. I wish I could find a video of him lamping Balotelli. Magical.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2014, 10:28:52 AM
There's a simple explanation to that photo.

The vainglorious poor mans' Christian Benteke realises he's wearing odd boots. Big Phil has no choice but to bring this to his attention by kicking him really hard on his calf, which then drew his glare down.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: cdbearsfan on September 15, 2014, 10:38:54 AM
Tell them your still angry with the referee then ask why Lallana wasn't sent off for diving when he'd already been booked. That should annoy 'em.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on September 15, 2014, 10:43:48 AM
not seen a plastic bindipper all morning...I'm sure they will soon crawl out of their lab's to chat about the game :)

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 15, 2014, 11:06:11 AM
One of the things I loved about Saturday was we weren't soft touches and had a couple of nasty bastards playing for us for once, admittedly Senderos was fortunate that none of the officials saw his kick out at Balotelli. Strangely enough I didn't get any 'lucky Villa' comments from the multitude of Liverpool supporters I usually encounter when my son plays football, they all thought Villa deserved the win. Alan Hutton is quickly becoming a bit of a favourite of mine.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: villa `cross the mersey on September 15, 2014, 12:08:06 PM
Are you a Prison Officer?

Ha ha very good.

Or a clerk at the Magistrates Court

Or at the "Dole Office" Yawwwwn

Nice to see that the Brummie sense of humour is alive and kicking- albeit still stuck in the 1980`s .

Personally I would love us to finally put those imitation Mancs to the sword - now they are cocky twats
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Tony Erdington on September 15, 2014, 12:25:01 PM
Good call Lee.

I have given the e-mail the strap line of "Balotelli injured while falling out of Senderos' pocket". That should have the black arm-band brigade biting.

Great Quote.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 15, 2014, 01:17:00 PM
Excellent result .well done Villa

Only just watched MOTD I have been away

But absolutely fantastic to beat these at anfield .
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 15, 2014, 01:34:02 PM
I am a bit amazed at the lack of condemnation for Senderos in the national media, and feel a bit sorry for Ballotelli who is not getting sympathy based on his past, which is harsh. Other way round we would be fuming.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: damon loves JT on September 15, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
I am a bit amazed at the lack of condemnation for Senderos in the national media, and feel a bit sorry for Ballotelli who is not getting sympathy based on his past, which is harsh. Other way round we would be fuming.

Don't worry. Now all the referees have seen it, Senderos will get a red card for nothing in the next game.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ozzjim on September 15, 2014, 01:39:34 PM
I am a bit amazed at the lack of condemnation for Senderos in the national media, and feel a bit sorry for Ballotelli who is not getting sympathy based on his past, which is harsh. Other way round we would be fuming.

Don't worry. Now all the referees have seen it, Senderos will get a red card for nothing in the next game.

Very good point!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: JUAN PABLO on September 15, 2014, 01:40:42 PM
I bet our left back feels good at the moment

When we get CB and Kozak  players back , the squad is going to look good
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Risso on September 15, 2014, 01:49:15 PM
I watched the second half again yesterday, and our throw ins were atrocious. The usual lack of movement and nearly every single one went straight to a Liverpool player. Of course they did next to nothing with the possession, but I hope we work on it before Arsenal and Chelsea. We stand a better chance of keeping this lovely run going if we don't make things unnecessarily hard for ourselves.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2014, 01:55:23 PM
Being shit at throw ins is the Villa way.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dr Butler on September 15, 2014, 02:08:16 PM
I watched the second half again yesterday, and our throw ins were atrocious. The usual lack of movement and nearly every single one went straight to a Liverpool player. Of course they did next to nothing with the possession, but I hope we work on it before Arsenal and Chelsea. We stand a better chance of keeping this lovely run going if we don't make things unnecessarily hard for ourselves.

throw ins are one of my bugbears...

when I was playing we were told that if there was no one open infield to receive the ball onto the pitch that we would close up down the line which I would then deliver it high and long and if the defender beat our man in the air we would progress down the line as they headed the ball out.

UTV
The Doc
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: oldtimernow on September 15, 2014, 02:13:44 PM
Liverpool without Suarez can only be summed up as toothless
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: pauliewalnuts on September 15, 2014, 02:50:42 PM
Being shit at throw ins is the Villa way.

I reckon we should ditch "Prepared" and rotate the slogan weekly, every week one of these gets chosen at random:

"Shit at throw-ins"
"No movement off the ball" (or whatever it is in latin)
"Weird floaty corners"
"If only we were that good at home"
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: UK Redsox on September 15, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
Being shit at throw ins is the Villa way.

I reckon we should ditch "Prepared" and rotate the slogan weekly, every week one of these gets chosen at random:

"Shit at throw-ins"
"No movement off the ball" (or whatever it is in latin)
"Weird floaty corners"
"If only we were that good at home"

For t-shirts, I'd go with a rip-off of "WWJD?" and use "WDBTTP?"
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: fredm on September 15, 2014, 03:33:38 PM
I watched the second half again yesterday, and our throw ins were atrocious. The usual lack of movement and nearly every single one went straight to a Liverpool player. Of course they did next to nothing with the possession, but I hope we work on it before Arsenal and Chelsea. We stand a better chance of keeping this lovely run going if we don't make things unnecessarily hard for ourselves.

throw ins are one of my bugbears...

when I was playing we were told that if there was no one open infield to receive the ball onto the pitch that we would close up down the line which I would then deliver it high and long and if the defender beat our man in the air we would progress down the line as they headed the ball out.

UTV
The Doc

Standard text book instructions for kids learning the game in my day. One way of working your way down the pitch away from the danger area. Does my head in watching us.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 15, 2014, 04:17:28 PM
Just read the RAWK post match thread. It is quite funny.

Some are saying we deserved to win but the excuses from those who don't agree are shocking.

Apparently we kick the shit out of them every season, should have had 2 sent off, didn't because the referee and Premier League have it in for them, parked the bus like we do every season (even though we have scored five there in our last two visits), they only had 3 first team regulars playing because their new signings don't count, had a host of injuries (neatly missing that our first choice strikers and centre halves were out) and, marvellously, bemoaned the lack of experience in their team versus our gnarled, streetwise outfit.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2014, 04:19:50 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2014, 04:21:30 PM
You've got to laugh, I think they had 5 starters on Saturday that cost more individually than our whole team, with 2 just shy of it.

Shame on us for defending.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ChicagoLion on September 15, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
Don't you know it is every football clubs duty to go to Anfield and  take a pasting.

Admire the wit, humour and passion of the best supporters in the world and be grateful for the condescending and patronising comments after the game.

It used to be like that.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: duncan on September 15, 2014, 05:14:45 PM
Liverpool without Suarez can only be summed up as toothless

Hehehe...lacking any bite.....
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: silhillvilla on September 15, 2014, 05:17:30 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
The whole psyche of that city is one of being a victim. Stems back decades.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2014, 05:20:35 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
The whole psyche of that city is one of being a victim. Stems back decades.

That's not what I've found, and most of the idiots Dave's referring to will be from the home counties.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
The whole psyche of that city is one of being a victim. Stems back decades.

With good reason very often, and it's not their proper supporters who are the worst culprits in this case. Which leads me onto something else I've often wondered. Why do we call Manchester United supporters Cockneys/from Surrey and the rest of it, and Liverpool Scousers when they have more out of towners than anyone?
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ciggiesnbeer on September 15, 2014, 05:24:10 PM
Being shit at throw ins is the Villa way.

I reckon we should ditch "Prepared" and rotate the slogan weekly, every week one of these gets chosen at random:

"Shit at throw-ins"
"No movement off the ball" (or whatever it is in latin)
"Weird floaty corners"
"If only we were that good at home"

Heh, 3 of those are still true unfortunately. Happily I was pretty impressed by our corners and free kicks which is a huge improvement. They even drew a bit of Lee Dixon praise on the telly over here as he noted each one was different and very well rehearsed.

Incidentally he is paired up with Arlo White who spooges himself every home Liverpool game with a belting "THIS IS ANFIELD!"
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithesShin on September 15, 2014, 05:25:03 PM
Probably because we're too lazy to type out Scandinavians.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 15, 2014, 05:25:48 PM
It was hilarious the way some were demanding Senderos be thrown to the Wolves for kicking Balotelli and citing the way Suarez was dealt with as justification.

Kicking someone is a bit different to racially abusing them or biting a chunk out of them.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2014, 05:27:03 PM
FourFourTwo did a survey a few years back and the top flight team with the most season ticket holders outside the City/Town postcode of the clubs was surprisingly Southampton.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Chris Jameson on September 15, 2014, 05:28:42 PM
I've never understood why they aren't held in the same regard as most Man Utd supporters, I've said before that I see far more kids in Liverpool shirts at my sons football and all of their parents are in their 30's or 40's with no connection to the city whatsoever. I know I have no connection to Aston but I've been rubbish at most things in life, glory hunting being one of them.

I remember a mate of mine saying he was on a Leeds European away trip and there were three lads with cockney accents chanting 'Yorkshire, Yorkshire'.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
FourFourTwo did a survey a few years back and the top flight team with the most season ticket holders outside the City/Town postcode of the clubs was surprisingly Southampton.

That's not surprising given that they've got pretty much the whole south of England outside London to themselves.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: PeterWithe on September 15, 2014, 05:40:14 PM
Most of the Liverpool fans I overheard seemed to be European.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: cheltenhamlion on September 15, 2014, 05:43:57 PM
The Swedish and Danes were pretty vocal on the RAWK thread. As were lots of "I didn't watch the match, but" type posters.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Damo70 on September 15, 2014, 05:49:14 PM
From what I heard of Rodgers response to questions about the Senderos and Balotelli stuff he was far more impressive than Wenger or Mourinho would have been. Basically it is a man's game so you have to man up. Wenger would have seen everything for a change and Mourinho would have been bringing it up in a year's time even if one of his players had decapitated one of ours in the meantime.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dave on September 15, 2014, 05:49:23 PM
Being shit at throw ins is the Villa way.

I reckon we should ditch "Prepared" and rotate the slogan weekly, every week one of these gets chosen at random:


"No movement off the ball" (or whatever it is in latin)

Non vivax sine orbis ludum.

Or something like that, I had to paraphrase.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: adrenachrome on September 15, 2014, 06:31:16 PM
From what I heard of Rodgers response to questions about the Senderos and Balotelli stuff he was far more impressive than Wenger or Mourinho would have been. Basically it is a man's game so you have to man up. Wenger would have seen everything for a change and Mourinho would have been bringing it up in a year's time even if one of his players had decapitated one of ours in the meantime.

He was very close to the Hutton tackle and didn't even bat an eyelid. 
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Dante Lavelli on September 15, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
The whole psyche of that city is one of being a victim. Stems back decades.

With good reason very often, and it's not their proper supporters who are the worst culprits in this case. Which leads me onto something else I've often wondered. Why do we call Manchester United supporters Cockneys/from Surrey and the rest of it, and Liverpool Scousers when they have more out of towners than anyone?

My guess would be that the Man U era of dominance coincided with a period of high attendances throughout the PL, so it was a easy 'win' to piss off a Man U fan, "you're a glory hunter who can't even be bothered to turn up."  The Liverpool era coincided with lower attendances (crowd violence?) so actually attending was less of a badge of honour. 

I wasn't old enough to go during the 80's but had season tickets through the second half of the nineties and that alone was justification to dismiss the opinion of most Man U fans I met.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: BC54 VFC on September 15, 2014, 07:41:37 PM
Most of the Liverpool fans I overheard seemed to be European.

Not too surprising given that Liverpool is in Europe!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: brontebilly on September 15, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
I am a bit amazed at the lack of condemnation for Senderos in the national media, and feel a bit sorry for Ballotelli who is not getting sympathy based on his past, which is harsh. Other way round we would be fuming.

agreed, Hutton's tackle was worse and an unwelcome reminder of his past indiscretions in a Villa shirt. Senderos hacked down one of the Newcastle forwards in a similar manner a couple of weeks ago and got booked.

a look at the Grealish thread will prove that hypocrisy isnt just confined to RAWK
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: LeeB on September 15, 2014, 08:39:37 PM
Aah bollocks man, it's just a hard tackle.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 15, 2014, 08:50:55 PM
From what I heard of Rodgers response to questions about the Senderos and Balotelli stuff he was far more impressive than Wenger or Mourinho would have been. Basically it is a man's game so you have to man up. Wenger would have seen everything for a change and Mourinho would have been bringing it up in a year's time even if one of his players had decapitated one of ours in the meantime.

He was very close to the Hutton tackle and didn't even bat an eyelid. 
Noticed this too...showed no concern at all!
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: frankmosswasmyuncle on September 15, 2014, 09:00:13 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
The whole psyche of that city is one of being a victim. Stems back decades.

With good reason very often, and it's not their proper supporters who are the worst culprits in this case. Which leads me onto something else I've often wondered. Why do we call Manchester United supporters Cockneys/from Surrey and the rest of it, and Liverpool Scousers when they have more out of towners than anyone?
Stopped at Stafford Services on the way up so my mate's disabled daughter could have her quota of calories - there seemed to be hundreds of 'em - every other customer was wearing a 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' shirt, several with "Suarez" emblazoned across the back... nostalgia 'n' that...aaaahhhh....the disdain in their looks at us had to be experienced - a sort of smug tolerance of the lowly Midlanders. Where the f**k were they all coming from? And where were the ba**ards on the way back?
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Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: dave.woodhall on September 15, 2014, 09:14:10 PM
Nothing in football is as amusing as Liverpool supporters who believe the media and authorities have it in for them. They don't just say it - they truly believe it.
The whole psyche of that city is one of being a victim. Stems back decades.

With good reason very often, and it's not their proper supporters who are the worst culprits in this case. Which leads me onto something else I've often wondered. Why do we call Manchester United supporters Cockneys/from Surrey and the rest of it, and Liverpool Scousers when they have more out of towners than anyone?

My guess would be that the Man U era of dominance coincided with a period of high attendances throughout the PL, so it was a easy 'win' to piss off a Man U fan, "you're a glory hunter who can't even be bothered to turn up."  The Liverpool era coincided with lower attendances (crowd violence?) so actually attending was less of a badge of honour. 

I wasn't old enough to go during the 80's but had season tickets through the second half of the nineties and that alone was justification to dismiss the opinion of most Man U fans I met.

It's as bad now. Standing on my corner I saw more out of towners at Liverpool than Manchester United games.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Ads on September 15, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
With respect to the out of town comments, I was routinely telling the tourists to fuck off back to Oslo.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: rob_bridge on September 15, 2014, 09:53:27 PM
The media have it in for Liverpool.  Who?

Alan Green. Lawro. Fowler. Owen. Hamman. Jamiè Redknapp. Colin Murray. Maybe Kelly Kate. Or The Appaling DJ Spooney.  Maybe Steve Mcmanam. Alan Hansen. Danny Murphy. Stvev Wilson. Jan Molby. Maybe Paul Jewell. Even bellend Savage was a Liverpool fan when he was a kid.

The list of those who have it in for Liverpool is endless.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: London Villan on September 15, 2014, 09:58:47 PM
I'm happy we are showing a bit of aggression and grit. We havent had anything like that for years. 
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: Hopadop on September 15, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
I think I get more pleasure out of a win over them than just about anyone else.  Deep, abiding joy.
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: ADVILLAFAN on September 16, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
Yes, I think there were more day-trippers at Anfield than I've ever seen at Old Trafford.

Didn't think that much of the ground, grey and plasticky from the outside. The memorial for Hillsborough was nice though. I also thought it seemed quite small inside, hard to imagine that it has a higher capacity than Villa Park, although the corners are filled in.

The Kop was very quiet  :)

The first away game that my missus has been to, where we actually won  :D
Title: Re: Liverpool vs Aston Villa Post-match Thread
Post by: danno on September 16, 2014, 03:27:55 PM
The media have it in for Liverpool.  Who?

Alan Green. Lawro. Fowler. Owen. Hamman. Jamiè Redknapp. Colin Murray. Maybe Kelly Kate. Or The Appaling DJ Spooney.  Maybe Steve Mcmanam. Alan Hansen. Danny Murphy. Stvev Wilson. Jan Molby. Maybe Paul Jewell. Even bellend Savage was a Liverpool fan when he was a kid.

The list of those who have it in for Liverpool is endless.

On sky sports Carragher and Souness, and on talkshite Mickey Quinn and Ray Houghton.

Not sure if they're still pundits somewhere, but there's also Keegan and John Barnes too.
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