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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: Legion on March 15, 2013, 07:50:27 PM
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Available Saturday evening.
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Yes massive three points.
Getting a bit of a gap now to the teams below us.
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Fucking hell. How did that last shot from QPR miss?
I'm still shitting myself.
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I'm numb.
Well done lads.
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Thank fuck for that, about time we had a bit of luck in injury time.
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thank god. I think it's going to take a while for my heart to slow down to it's usual pace. Massive 3 points.
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Huge win but we will need at least two more. Can't believe Liverpool let us down against Soton. We need Wigan to balls up their two games in hand and for Sunderland to continue sinking.
Nice to be on thirty points, needing about seven or eight points from eight games.
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That's live action, yoi yoi yoi yoi yew, come on lolly!
Massive massive win, I logged in here then they scored the first so I logged out and stuck with the radio.
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All I can say is...YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! Vital and a second half full of character. First half was rough, but doesn't matter now.
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My heart is still beating out of my chest!
3 precious points
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I'm in bits. Totally exhausted.
Oh thank fuck for that.
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Bloody hell,massive result.
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Never had so much relief as that last shot went centimeters wide. EXCELLENT RESULT.
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Say what you like, that was a great performance in the 2nd half. Ran them ragged for the first 20, they scored from nothing and then we showed massive spirit to get back in front and close it out. Yes they had a chance or 2 late on but all from 20-25yards, with them effectively playing 3-1-6 that's decent defending given how shaky we've been late on in games recently.
It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
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Thank Fuck. What a twat the Ref was though. 5 mins extra time in the first place, then adding another 35 seconds!!!!!!! Thought that final shot was in. Still what a result. The lads have not only got back-to-back wins for the first time, but also done it by coming from behind. Boys becoming men it seems. Guzan MoTM. Not even up for debate. Thought we had f**ked it up when Lowton missed that glorious chance. But fair play, so proud of the Villa today.
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Pub time! How much is Benteke worth in points this season?!
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We are learning to win.
Like the British Army in North Africa.
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Great result - was travelling back from Spain and sweated through the last 10 mins when I got in......well done lads
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Yikes...I was quite calm and not over-reacting when the goals went in, not listening/watching a stream probably helps. But had to tune-in for the last few minutes...Christ, gut-wrenching but what a result.
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Phew ! What a huge result, well done to all !
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Well I don't know about anyone else but I am emotionally damaged after that. It's actually a struggle to type properly.
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Say what you like, that was a great performance in the 2nd half.
It really was. I said we were weak but the second half was anything but. Finally some fighting spirit, great result!
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It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
Agreed. We're still not out of it, there are nine teams including ourselves fighting to avoid the last relegation spot.
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We're looking good to stay up and the team has shown a great amount of character to come back and win twice in the last two matches.
Fantastic game of football.
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A shout out to the fans too. Brilliant turn-out. Just what the team needed.
I think that Gabby equaliser is what ultimately won it though. Lifted the crowd just as the usual doom and gloom was sweeping around VP.
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That my friends is back to back wins i do believe
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That 6 minutes of injury time was pure torture. I'm sure the ref was trying to kill me.
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It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
Are you serious? I can't wait for them to fuck off back to the Championship.
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Massive. 10 points from the last 8 shouldn't be out of reach and would make damn sure.
From the next two I'd fancy 4 points. I'll take 2 and that would be good. We've got very 3 winnable home games left. There's now a lot of pressure on Wigan to win two games in hand. I don't think they'll do it.
Gabby's hitting form at the right time. Weimann's back amongst the goals. It's good we're not resting entirely on Benteke.
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Abysmal first half, brilliant second. The ref gave Harry's side a tasty rim job today but it wasn't enough.
I was a fucking messy blurry eyed twat at the end of it. I still haven't calmed down. I thought they had equalised.
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4 points off 10th place. Crazy!
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When was the last time we won two league games on the bounce?
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Fucking GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT IN!!!!!!!!!
Can we have Sylla back on now!
Right.
I am signing off till full time. We only fuck up when I watch.
I posted that as Weimann hit the net. I did the same against Reading and West Ham.
I am taking full credit for today.
I actually think it is worse not listening or watching at all you know!
In all seriousness, thank you to the players for ramming the comments of gutless etc in the first half back at people. We were poor, but never gutless IMO, and both last and this week we have shown that.
Well done Villa, and well done Lambert, and thank God for Benteke!
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Seriously well done villa, think that win worth for more than 3 points!!
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That 6 minutes of injury time was pure torture. I'm sure the ref was trying to kill me.
It certainly was. My dog was getting very concerned about my mental well-being.
And where the hell did 5 minutes 35 seconds of injury time come from? That ref was a total shocker.
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Jesus wept. I couldn't bear listening to it on the radio. I still spent the last two minutes of injury time pacing around my room counting down twominutes in my head!
Sounded like we could have been 4 down at half time and had completely frozen. Then second half it sounded like we were swarming all over them at times and at other times under the cosh.
Really hope that Sunderland and Wigan don't manage to draw this weekend. We've given ourselves some great breathing space but it's not over by any means. Two more wins from the last 8 games plus a draw or two and we should be ok I hope
Would be brilliant if it was Sunderland who went down
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It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
Are you serious? I can't wait for them to fuck off back to the Championship.
I think there is more sarcasm heaped in Paul's post than I have in my 4 sugared tea in the mornings.
Beating that complete shit head is beautiful, just beautiful.
I reckon Harry will be dining out tonight with a Friend too. Fucking cheat.
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I do like Sylla, he's very tidy in possession and gets around the pitch well.
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When was the last time we won two league games on the bounce?
May 2011. Arsenal away and then Liverpool at home on the last day.
Just when I started seeing my bird.
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It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
Are you serious? I can't wait for them to fuck off back to the Championship.
Sarcasm lost on you I see.
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I do like Sylla, he's very tidy in possession and gets around the pitch well.
Agreed. Does the boring stuff well.
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I do like Sylla, he's very tidy in possession and gets around the pitch well.
Agreed. Does the boring stuff well.
He and Westwood give a good base. I would prefer Charlie in front of them than Barry, but he has more than played his part in the last 2 games.
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I've realised that Lambert is fucking mental. He's attacking our way out of this mess. Good on him.
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Guzan MoTM. Not even up for debate.
First half, no doubt whatsoever. Brilliant keeper and the type of performance we've come to expect from him.
Second half I thought Gabby, Vlaar, who had his best 45 minutes in a Villa shirt, were the stand out players. The determination and cutback by Weimann for Benteke, not to mention his snapshot goal, would also include him as a contender for MOTM.
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When was the last time we won two league games on the bounce?
May 2011. Arsenal away and then Liverpool at home on the last day.
Just when I started seeing my bird.
Yes. Although those two games were pretty meaningless as we were already safe by then. Last time we won two important league games was Newcastle/West Ham I believe. GH's final two games for us.
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Massive. Thrilled. Proud of the lot of them.
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It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
Are you serious? I can't wait for them to fuck off back to the Championship.
Whoosh!
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Back to back wins and came from behind to win both- rode our luck 1st half but great 2nd half - enjoy your evening everyone:)
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Still having heart palpitations, what a match. Fair play to QPR they played well, and actually that didn't look like a relegation dogfight game to me - there was too much (inconsistent) quality from both teams.
Thought that the team responded brilliantly second half, and people are going on about the 5 minutes at the end but thank f**k he played 3 in the first half!
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Up your Khyber, Redknob.
Three brilliantly executed goals against two slaggy scrambles.
Regardless of where we are, we do not look like a side destined for relegation. Plenty of guts today and some nice play.
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I thought the midfield three really galvanised us second half. Really zipped the ball around quicker, fewer backwards passes (you have to have some, but first half was excessive), and pressing quickly when the ball was lost. Much better platform for San Andreas to do his thing.
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Feels good, man.
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Guzan MoTM. Not even up for debate.
First half, no doubt whatsoever. Brilliant keeper and the type of performance we've come to expect from him.
Second half I thought Gabby, Vlaar, who had his best 45 minutes in a Villa shirt, were the stand out players. The determination and cutback by Weimann for Benteke, not to mention his snapshot goal, would also include him as a contender for MOTM.
Maybe to be fair we should have an 'Outfield MoTM Award'...so the other players don't feel left out ;)
In seriousness though, the game would have been over in the first half without Big Brad. Which is why I am opting for him. He also claimed some good pressure balls (as always) in the second. I'd agree that go Weimann was best outfield player though. Little lucky with the goal, but just amazing determination for the winner.
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Guzan MoTM. Not even up for debate.
First half, no doubt whatsoever. Brilliant keeper and the type of performance we've come to expect from him.
Second half I thought Gabby, Vlaar, who had his best 45 minutes in a Villa shirt, were the stand out players. The determination and cutback by Weimann for Benteke, not to mention his snapshot goal, would also include him as a contender for MOTM.
Weimann was very clever for his goal. 2 of their defenders were expecting him to play Lowton back in and had gone over to him. His turn created a big gap which gave him the time to get his shot off and we know he's a finisher.
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Don't give a shit how we did it but we bloody well did it, fair play to them all... just end the season now!
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Guzan MoTM. Not even up for debate.
First half, no doubt whatsoever. Brilliant keeper and the type of performance we've come to expect from him.
Second half I thought Gabby, Vlaar, who had his best 45 minutes in a Villa shirt, were the stand out players. The determination and cutback by Weimann for Benteke, not to mention his snapshot goal, would also include him as a contender for MOTM.
Maybe to be fair we should have an 'Outfield MoTM Award'...so the other players don't feel left out ;)
In seriousness though, the game would have been over in the first half without Big Brad. Which is why I am opting for him. He also claimed some good pressure balls (as always) in the second. I'd agree that go Weimann was best outfield player though. Little lucky with the goal, but just amazing determination for the winner.
Not saying they were MOM quality but thought Bennett and Lowton did well.
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I thought the midfield three really galvanised us second half. Really zipped the ball around quicker, fewer backwards passes (you have to have some, but first half was excessive), and pressing quickly when the ball was lost. Much better platform for San Andreas to do his thing.
Despite Bannan getting the usual slaughtering on Twitter, he played some really nice incisive balls to feet. As their second showed though, we still are useless in dispossessing opposition players in midfield. Westwood and Bannan too lightweight in that regard. That's why Delph has made a bit of a difference recently because he will always get stuck-in. Even if a little recklessly at times.
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What was the attendance, I didnt catch it in the excitement?
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I've realised that Lambert is fucking mental. He's attacking our way out of this mess. Good on him.
It was the Clash of the Gung-hos today. Thank god we won it. Redknapp lost all logic, he thought he could go for all three points by just attacking and left them open to be exploited, especially down the flanks.
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Back-to-back staying up for MOTD for the first time since Jesus Christ was sucking his thumb
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What was the attendance, I didnt catch it in the excitement?
38594
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Back-to-back staying up for MOTD for the first time since Jesus Christ was sucking his thumb
Yep, missed the Benteke goal so looking forward MOTD tonight big time. Also, just want to see Churchill's face at the end.
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I've realised that Lambert is fucking mental. He's attacking our way out of this mess. Good on him.
It was the Clash of the Gung-hos today. Thank god we won it. Redknapp lost all logic, he thought he could go for all three points by just attacking and left them open to be exploited, especially down the flanks.
If he's been watching our defence this season, it probably wasn't a bad strategy.
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Kiss my face.
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What was the attendance, I didnt catch it in the excitement?
Attendance 38,594
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Good three points in fact more like 6 , good battling against a ref that should never ref a prem game again and where the fuck did he get 5 from not a trainer on in the second half. Sorry but you twisted face bastard your brown envelope did not work YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHH GET IN THERE
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it should be the sky game of the day around 8.30
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Back-to-back staying up for MOTD for the first time since Jesus Christ was sucking his thumb
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Also recording the whole match on Football First for TWO consecutive weeks.
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What was the attendance, I didnt catch it in the excitement?
38594
Thanks Walsall villain and others who posted it , decent crowd and lets all enjoy a happy weekend- hope newcastle and Norwich beat wigan and Sunderland tomorrow.
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it should be the sky game of the day around 8.30
It has been confirmed it is !
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I did exactly the same as last week. A long walk by the canal before checking the result on the phone at 4.52. It may become a habit.
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an absolute nerve shredder at the end, oh Villa you are the cruelest of mistresses.
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it should be the sky game of the day around 8.30
It has been confirmed it is !
cheers
That's my evening sorted then :)
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When was the last time we won two league games on the bounce?
May 2011. Arsenal away and then Liverpool at home on the last day.
Just when I started seeing my bird.
Jesus, I knew it had been a while but that's ridiculous!
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Did you see Redknapp twitching at the end? Like he was having electro convulsive therapy!
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Phew, at center parcs longleat and had to follow it on here with a very slow Internet feed. Makes such a difference to the weekend!
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I actually died during that last 5 minutes and this is my ghost typing. Fucking brilliant, up the Villa! *wooooooooooooooh*
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It's also probably the nail in their coffin. Which will be a real shame...
Are you serious? I can't wait for them to fuck off back to the Championship.
Whoosh!
This post is the one that made the penny drop for me. The first three saying it was a sarcastic post left me in a bit of doubt but the 4th one was needed. Cheers :)
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Southampton and ourselves have dragged pretty much the bottom half of the table into the relegation battle now. If Newcastle manage to get any kind of result against Wigan they should cruise to safety. But after their game midweek, Wigan winning would be far from a surprise. I like Chris Hughton so hope Norwich do Sunderland, Norwich are struggling for goals though. you could make a case for any of the sides above us to go down to be honest. the safety points mark is likely to rise unfortunately.
back to the game, started well but QPR werent long making mince of our back 4. Guzan made 2 outstanding stops. Benteke beaten like a child in the air for the first, second seemed to be offside but still a serious save. Another chronic individual error for an opposition goal, this time Bennett. We looked to have lost our way totally up front in the first half with the three of them getting in each others way. The goal when it did arrive was more down to gutless goalkeeping from Cesar than any great play on our behalf.
Second half, Gabby and Weimann started targeting their full backs, Fabio in particular, which paid rich dividends. We again looked really decent going
forward during the second half. even more so when Nzogbia came on but Sylla coming off instead of Bannan was a terrible substitution. We all pretty much said it on the match thread, we needed to score our third then. Lowton missed a great chance. They equalised out of nothing but Tarrabt was making a big difference at that stage. The lack of a defensive midfielder was terribly obvious, we missed Delph something shocking today. Weimann was huge for us, his goal was a decent shot but again Cesar was more at fault. But his undeniable spirit was key to our winner, an unbelievable assist for Benteke's winner. For one horrible moment I thought Benteke was going to miss it. We were a shambles trying to defend the last few minutes. Clint Hill's shot was less than a foot wide. Thankfully luck went in our favour. Certainly feels like we are safe but might take 8 more points so far from out of it yet.
Guzan 8 - 2 outstanding saves in the first half. Dominant in the air again and passed it more into midfield than usual. been a big find for us this season and likely to be our keeper for many years
Lowton 4 - An assist and should have had a goal. One great block in the second half. In between all that he was horribly out of his depth. His form of late is in the same vein as Hutton or De La Cruz. Physically weak, positionally awful and beaten for pace throughout
Vlaar 5 - doesnt look fully fit. His organisation skills are desperate, definitely a follower rather than a leader. was the best of our back 4 but that wasnt saying much if anything
Clark 4 - woeful really. Same as Lowton decent on the ball but lots of the same weaknesses, physically weak, slow and rash. Not good enough I'm afraid and I had high hopes for him
Baker 5 - there is brave and then there is reckless. Baker falls in the later category and the injury he picked up was a result of putting himself in a position where he could have got seriously injured. Poor defender in any case
Sylla 5 - positionally seemed a bit all over the place today. definitely still very raw but his strength and mobility was badly lacking following his subsitution.
Bannan 4 - good game last week but hopeless in this one. the decision to replace Sylla and not him could have cost us the game. His limitations without the ball are pretty obvious but was very disappointed with him today with the ball. Thought the occasion got to him and certainly he didnt get on the ball as much as he should have.
Westwood 8 - despite his best efforts, without the ball he is almost as ineffective as Bannan. Was part of a midfield destroyed on the counter attack at time. However with the ball I thought he was excellent today. Always looking to get on the ball, great positioning and football intelligence about picking the right pass. He was involved in all our best football. Needs Delph next to him.
Weimann 8 - not in the game at all in the first half. But what leadership he showed in the second half. Another goal but his assist was our best play of the season. The contrast between the guts he showed and the lack that his direction opponent Fabio did was striking
Gabby 8 - shite in the first half, he needed to target Boswinga but instead floated around doing nothing. But the goal woke him up and with Benteke misfiring badly, he showed great leadership in the second half.
Benteke 5 - beaten up a stick by Samba today. Terrible defending on the opening set piece and offered us very little going forward. Still scored the winner and will have learned more today than the last couple of games where he was outstanding.
Bennett 5 - horrible start. tidy player on the ball certainly but too physically weak to be a defender at this level
Nzogbia 7 - slow enough start but soon found space and was involved in the winner with a good pass to Weimann. Bit unlucky to be out of the side at the moment
Bowery - not on long enough
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Westwood today - 88 touches, 97% pass accuracy
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Disagree on Benteke and Vlaar. You can't give Benteke a 5 when he scores a vital winning goal and Vlaar was excellent in the second half overall.
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Will post later as not got home from VP yet but Guzan I love you. MotM by a long way IMO. Kept us in the game first half and boys did the rest in the second.
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Like us, the ref had a shocker in the first half. Blatant pass back in the 6 yard box and pulling back play for them after playing advantage and their player getting off a good shot at goal were the standouts. Second half he seemed better although stopping an advantage to book their player and 5 mins extra time were also bad decisions.
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Westwood today - 88 touches, 97% pass accuracy
Yes I like him and Sylla in the middle of the park.
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Bloody Liverpool stopping a great day, just glad the Goofy rat got booked though.
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I actually died during that last 5 minutes and this is my ghost typing. Fucking brilliant, up the Villa! *wooooooooooooooh*
I had to send kiddo out of the room when I was watching the last 5 minutes, I could feel me getting ready to shout "For fuck sake!!"....again.
What a wave of relief!!
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Southampton and ourselves have dragged pretty much the bottom half of the table into the relegation battle now. If Newcastle manage to get any kind of result against Wigan they should cruise to safety. But after their game midweek, Wigan winning would be far from a surprise. I like Chris Hughton so hope Norwich do Sunderland, Norwich are struggling for goals though. you could make a case for any of the sides above us to go down to be honest. the safety points mark is likely to rise unfortunately.
back to the game, started well but QPR werent long making mince of our back 4. Guzan made 2 outstanding stops. Benteke beaten like a child in the air for the first, second seemed to be offside but still a serious save. Another chronic individual error for an opposition goal, this time Bennett. We looked to have lost our way totally up front in the first half with the three of them getting in each others way. The goal when it did arrive was more down to gutless goalkeeping from Cesar than any great play on our behalf.
Second half, Gabby and Weimann started targeting their full backs, Fabio in particular, which paid rich dividends. We again looked really decent going
forward during the second half. even more so when Nzogbia came on but Sylla coming off instead of Bannan was a terrible substitution. We all pretty much said it on the match thread, we needed to score our third then. Lowton missed a great chance. They equalised out of nothing but Tarrabt was making a big difference at that stage. The lack of a defensive midfielder was terribly obvious, we missed Delph something shocking today. Weimann was huge for us, his goal was a decent shot but again Cesar was more at fault. But his undeniable spirit was key to our winner, an unbelievable assist for Benteke's winner. For one horrible moment I thought Benteke was going to miss it. We were a shambles trying to defend the last few minutes. Clint Hill's shot was less than a foot wide. Thankfully luck went in our favour. Certainly feels like we are safe but might take 8 more points so far from out of it yet.
Guzan 8 - 2 outstanding saves in the first half. Dominant in the air again and passed it more into midfield than usual. been a big find for us this season and likely to be our keeper for many years
Lowton 4 - An assist and should have had a goal. One great block in the second half. In between all that he was horribly out of his depth. His form of late is in the same vein as Hutton or De La Cruz. Physically weak, positionally awful and beaten for pace throughout
Vlaar 5 - doesnt look fully fit. His organisation skills are desperate, definitely a follower rather than a leader. was the best of our back 4 but that wasnt saying much if anything
Clark 4 - woeful really. Same as Lowton decent on the ball but lots of the same weaknesses, physically weak, slow and rash. Not good enough I'm afraid and I had high hopes for him
Baker 5 - there is brave and then there is reckless. Baker falls in the later category and the injury he picked up was a result of putting himself in a position where he could have got seriously injured. Poor defender in any case
Sylla 5 - positionally seemed a bit all over the place today. definitely still very raw but his strength and mobility was badly lacking following his subsitution.
Bannan 4 - good game last week but hopeless in this one. the decision to replace Sylla and not him could have cost us the game. His limitations without the ball are pretty obvious but was very disappointed with him today with the ball. Thought the occasion got to him and certainly he didnt get on the ball as much as he should have.
Westwood 8 - despite his best efforts, without the ball he is almost as ineffective as Bannan. Was part of a midfield destroyed on the counter attack at time. However with the ball I thought he was excellent today. Always looking to get on the ball, great positioning and football intelligence about picking the right pass. He was involved in all our best football. Needs Delph next to him.
Weimann 8 - not in the game at all in the first half. But what leadership he showed in the second half. Another goal but his assist was our best play of the season. The contrast between the guts he showed and the lack that his direction opponent Fabio did was striking
Gabby 8 - shite in the first half, he needed to target Boswinga but instead floated around doing nothing. But the goal woke him up and with Benteke misfiring badly, he showed great leadership in the second half.
Benteke 5 - beaten up a stick by Samba today. Terrible defending on the opening set piece and offered us very little going forward. Still scored the winner and will have learned more today than the last couple of games where he was outstanding.
Bennett 5 - horrible start. tidy player on the ball certainly but too physically weak to be a defender at this level
Nzogbia 7 - slow enough start but soon found space and was involved in the winner with a good pass to Weimann. Bit unlucky to be out of the side at the moment
Bowery - not on long enough
No, no, no. I must have been at a different game.
I appreciate you wrote a lot of words but they are incorrect IMO
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Westwood today - 88 touches, 97% pass accuracy
Where are these stats up?
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Did you see Redknapp twitching at the end? Like he was having electro convulsive therapy!
He as thinking that brown envelope was wasted.
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Disagree on Benteke and Vlaar. You can't give Benteke a 5 when he scores a vital winning goal and Vlaar was excellent in the second half overall.
Loved it when Vlaar outjumped Samba towards the end. I actually don't think our defending was too bad bar a crazy ten minutes in the first half. That said, it's those crazy ten minutes which have been costing us all season.
In the second half we actually won a lot in the air, I think the adrenaline was really pumping and Vlaar and Clark both stood up.
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Guzan 8 - 2 outstanding saves in the first half. Dominant in the air again and passed it more into midfield than usual. been a big find for us this season and likely to be our keeper for many years
Lowton 4 - An assist and should have had a goal. One great block in the second half. In between all that he was horribly out of his depth. His form of late is in the same vein as Hutton or De La Cruz. Physically weak, positionally awful and beaten for pace throughout
Vlaar 5 - doesnt look fully fit. His organisation skills are desperate, definitely a follower rather than a leader. was the best of our back 4 but that wasnt saying much if anything
Clark 4 - woeful really. Same as Lowton decent on the ball but lots of the same weaknesses, physically weak, slow and rash. Not good enough I'm afraid and I had high hopes for him
Baker 5 - there is brave and then there is reckless. Baker falls in the later category and the injury he picked up was a result of putting himself in a position where he could have got seriously injured. Poor defender in any case
Sylla 5 - positionally seemed a bit all over the place today. definitely still very raw but his strength and mobility was badly lacking following his subsitution.
Bannan 4 - good game last week but hopeless in this one. the decision to replace Sylla and not him could have cost us the game. His limitations without the ball are pretty obvious but was very disappointed with him today with the ball. Thought the occasion got to him and certainly he didnt get on the ball as much as he should have.
Westwood 8 - despite his best efforts, without the ball he is almost as ineffective as Bannan. Was part of a midfield destroyed on the counter attack at time. However with the ball I thought he was excellent today. Always looking to get on the ball, great positioning and football intelligence about picking the right pass. He was involved in all our best football. Needs Delph next to him.
Weimann 8 - not in the game at all in the first half. But what leadership he showed in the second half. Another goal but his assist was our best play of the season. The contrast between the guts he showed and the lack that his direction opponent Fabio did was striking
Gabby 8 - shite in the first half, he needed to target Boswinga but instead floated around doing nothing. But the goal woke him up and with Benteke misfiring badly, he showed great leadership in the second half.
Benteke 5 - beaten up a stick by Samba today. Terrible defending on the opening set piece and offered us very little going forward. Still scored the winner and will have learned more today than the last couple of games where he was outstanding.
Bennett 5 - horrible start. tidy player on the ball certainly but too physically weak to be a defender at this level
Nzogbia 7 - slow enough start but soon found space and was involved in the winner with a good pass to Weimann. Bit unlucky to be out of the side at the moment
Bowery - not on long enough
What a load of old shit.
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Westwood today - 88 touches, 97% pass accuracy
Where are these stats up?
whoscored.com
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Good write-up Bronte and thanks for making the effort!
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The Ref must be gutted.
His performance requires some serious looking in to.
How he could decide that Bosingwa didn't just roll the ball into the keepers hands is beyond me.
That was just the start of it.
Well done boys. Great 2nd half performance. More of this for the rest of the season.
A few celebratory pints for me are called for tonight.
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Guzan 8 - 2 outstanding saves in the first half. Dominant in the air again and passed it more into midfield than usual. been a big find for us this season and likely to be our keeper for many years
Lowton 4 - An assist and should have had a goal. One great block in the second half. In between all that he was horribly out of his depth. His form of late is in the same vein as Hutton or De La Cruz. Physically weak, positionally awful and beaten for pace throughout
Vlaar 5 - doesnt look fully fit. His organisation skills are desperate, definitely a follower rather than a leader. was the best of our back 4 but that wasnt saying much if anything
Clark 4 - woeful really. Same as Lowton decent on the ball but lots of the same weaknesses, physically weak, slow and rash. Not good enough I'm afraid and I had high hopes for him
Baker 5 - there is brave and then there is reckless. Baker falls in the later category and the injury he picked up was a result of putting himself in a position where he could have got seriously injured. Poor defender in any case
Sylla 5 - positionally seemed a bit all over the place today. definitely still very raw but his strength and mobility was badly lacking following his subsitution.
Bannan 4 - good game last week but hopeless in this one. the decision to replace Sylla and not him could have cost us the game. His limitations without the ball are pretty obvious but was very disappointed with him today with the ball. Thought the occasion got to him and certainly he didnt get on the ball as much as he should have.
Westwood 8 - despite his best efforts, without the ball he is almost as ineffective as Bannan. Was part of a midfield destroyed on the counter attack at time. However with the ball I thought he was excellent today. Always looking to get on the ball, great positioning and football intelligence about picking the right pass. He was involved in all our best football. Needs Delph next to him.
Weimann 8 - not in the game at all in the first half. But what leadership he showed in the second half. Another goal but his assist was our best play of the season. The contrast between the guts he showed and the lack that his direction opponent Fabio did was striking
Gabby 8 - shite in the first half, he needed to target Boswinga but instead floated around doing nothing. But the goal woke him up and with Benteke misfiring badly, he showed great leadership in the second half.
Benteke 5 - beaten up a stick by Samba today. Terrible defending on the opening set piece and offered us very little going forward. Still scored the winner and will have learned more today than the last couple of games where he was outstanding.
Bennett 5 - horrible start. tidy player on the ball certainly but too physically weak to be a defender at this level
Nzogbia 7 - slow enough start but soon found space and was involved in the winner with a good pass to Weimann. Bit unlucky to be out of the side at the moment
Bowery - not on long enough
What a load of old shit.
If you can't do anything but criticise when someone puts their opinion on the forum, why don't you just go somewhere else!
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Southampton and ourselves have dragged pretty much the bottom half of the table into the relegation battle now. If Newcastle manage to get any kind of result against Wigan they should cruise to safety. But after their game midweek, Wigan winning would be far from a surprise. I like Chris Hughton so hope Norwich do Sunderland, Norwich are struggling for goals though. you could make a case for any of the sides above us to go down to be honest. the safety points mark is likely to rise unfortunately.
back to the game, started well but QPR werent long making mince of our back 4. Guzan made 2 outstanding stops. Benteke beaten like a child in the air for the first, second seemed to be offside but still a serious save. Another chronic individual error for an opposition goal, this time Bennett. We looked to have lost our way totally up front in the first half with the three of them getting in each others way. The goal when it did arrive was more down to gutless goalkeeping from Cesar than any great play on our behalf.
Second half, Gabby and Weimann started targeting their full backs, Fabio in particular, which paid rich dividends. We again looked really decent going
forward during the second half. even more so when Nzogbia came on but Sylla coming off instead of Bannan was a terrible substitution. We all pretty much said it on the match thread, we needed to score our third then. Lowton missed a great chance. They equalised out of nothing but Tarrabt was making a big difference at that stage. The lack of a defensive midfielder was terribly obvious, we missed Delph something shocking today. Weimann was huge for us, his goal was a decent shot but again Cesar was more at fault. But his undeniable spirit was key to our winner, an unbelievable assist for Benteke's winner. For one horrible moment I thought Benteke was going to miss it. We were a shambles trying to defend the last few minutes. Clint Hill's shot was less than a foot wide. Thankfully luck went in our favour. Certainly feels like we are safe but might take 8 more points so far from out of it yet.
Guzan 8 - 2 outstanding saves in the first half. Dominant in the air again and passed it more into midfield than usual. been a big find for us this season and likely to be our keeper for many years
Lowton 4 - An assist and should have had a goal. One great block in the second half. In between all that he was horribly out of his depth. His form of late is in the same vein as Hutton or De La Cruz. Physically weak, positionally awful and beaten for pace throughout
Vlaar 5 - doesnt look fully fit. His organisation skills are desperate, definitely a follower rather than a leader. was the best of our back 4 but that wasnt saying much if anything
Clark 4 - woeful really. Same as Lowton decent on the ball but lots of the same weaknesses, physically weak, slow and rash. Not good enough I'm afraid and I had high hopes for him
Baker 5 - there is brave and then there is reckless. Baker falls in the later category and the injury he picked up was a result of putting himself in a position where he could have got seriously injured. Poor defender in any case
Sylla 5 - positionally seemed a bit all over the place today. definitely still very raw but his strength and mobility was badly lacking following his subsitution.
Bannan 4 - good game last week but hopeless in this one. the decision to replace Sylla and not him could have cost us the game. His limitations without the ball are pretty obvious but was very disappointed with him today with the ball. Thought the occasion got to him and certainly he didnt get on the ball as much as he should have.
Westwood 8 - despite his best efforts, without the ball he is almost as ineffective as Bannan. Was part of a midfield destroyed on the counter attack at time. However with the ball I thought he was excellent today. Always looking to get on the ball, great positioning and football intelligence about picking the right pass. He was involved in all our best football. Needs Delph next to him.
Weimann 8 - not in the game at all in the first half. But what leadership he showed in the second half. Another goal but his assist was our best play of the season. The contrast between the guts he showed and the lack that his direction opponent Fabio did was striking
Gabby 8 - shite in the first half, he needed to target Boswinga but instead floated around doing nothing. But the goal woke him up and with Benteke misfiring badly, he showed great leadership in the second half.
Benteke 5 - beaten up a stick by Samba today. Terrible defending on the opening set piece and offered us very little going forward. Still scored the winner and will have learned more today than the last couple of games where he was outstanding.
Bennett 5 - horrible start. tidy player on the ball certainly but too physically weak to be a defender at this level
Nzogbia 7 - slow enough start but soon found space and was involved in the winner with a good pass to Weimann. Bit unlucky to be out of the side at the moment
Bowery - not on long enough
No, no, no. I must have been at a different game.
I appreciate you wrote a lot of words but they are incorrect IMO
tl;dr
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Mirror match review-
Christian Benteke eased Aston Villa's relegation fears and pushed bottom-placed QPR nearer to the drop as his late winner settled a pulsating Barclays Premier League clash.
Rangers dominated the opening half at Villa Park and deservedly led through a goal from midfielder Jermaine Jenas, only for Gabriel Agbonlahor to level against the run of play.
Andreas Weimann put the home side ahead early in the second half and, after Andros Townsend made it 2-2, Villa's Austrian striker set up the winner for Benteke.
It was Belgium international Benteke's seventh goal in the last eight league games and took his overall tally to 17 since his £8million summer move from Genk.
For much of the first half, QPR looked like a side brimming with confidence after their back-to-back wins against Southampton and Sunderland.
Only heroics from in-form Villa goalkeeper Brad Guzan and the woodwork prevented the visitors wrapping up the points before half-time.
Villa seldom posed a threat during the opening 45 minutes, with Christopher Samba winning his aerial battle with Benteke.
But the home side woke up and looked more dangerous after the break with Weimann deserving his goal for an energetic and committed display.
Benteke started to make his presence felt and his winner showed again why manager Paul Lambert believes he has already doubled in value as a Villa player.
Villa knocked the ball around in confident style in the very early stages.
QPR goalkeeper Julio Cesar picked up what might have been considered a back-pass from defender Jose Bosingwa, who came under pressure from Agbonlahor, but referee Kevin Friend waved play on.
The visitors stepped up a gear and Guzan made two excellent saves in the space of 60 seconds to keep his side on level terms.
The United States international backpedalled to turn a looping header from Samba over the bar after he had connected with a Bosingwa free-kick.
Then Guzan made an even better save to turn aside another effort from Samba, this time from just inside the box.
QPR midfielder Stephane M'Bia was the first player to be yellow-carded, bringing down Weimann.
Villa were forced into a change after 20 minutes when Nathan Baker appeared to be concussed in an aerial challenge with Samba and he was replaced by Joe Bennett.
The left-back made a shaky entrance into proceedings with his misdirected pass leading to Jermaine Jenas giving QPR the lead after 23 minutes.
Bennett played a square pass just inside his own half which was seized on by Jenas who released Zamora in space.
Zamora's low drive was parried by Guzan but Jenas continued his run into the box and was first to the loose ball to make no mistake from close range.
Villa midfielders Yacouba Sylla and Barry Bannan were booked in quick succession for fouls on Townsend and Weimann for arguing after QPR were awarded a free-kick.
The woodwork came to Villa's rescue when Bosingwa's powerful free-kick struck a post.
But in first-half injury-time Agbonlahor brought the home side level when he peeled off to the far post and headed home a right-wing cross from Matt Lowton.
Villa looked more dangerous after the interval and a Weimann header was tipped over by Cesar from Bennett's cross.
Then after 59 minutes Bennett atoned for his earlier costly error by setting up Weimann for his 11th goal of the season.
The former Middlesbrough player showed good control before supplying the pass to Weimann who cut inside before drilling a low left-footed shot past Cesar from 15 yards.
Lowton could have made it 3-1 but scuffed his shot across the face of goal.
Then with 17 minutes left the impressive Townsend made it 2-2. Loic Remy and Ji-Sung Park combined to tee up Townsend and his shot took a slight deflection as it flew past Guzan.
Villa responded and after 81 minutes Weimann turned goal-maker with his low cross turned in by Benteke after good play by substitute Charles N'Zogbia. This time QPR had no response and they now stand seven points adrift of safety with eight games to play.
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The Ref must be gutted.
His performance requires some serious looking in to.
How he could decide that Bosingwa didn't just roll the ball into the keepers hands is beyond me.
That was just the start of it.
Well done boys. Great 2nd half performance. More of this for the rest of the season.
A few celebratory pints for me are called for tonight.
Yet I have seen QPR fans moaning about the ref not giving them free kicks in the build up to goals. Joke.
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No, no, no. I must have been at a different game.
I appreciate you wrote a lot of words but they are incorrect IMO
He has made some good points and bad. To pick on the two goals as down to them being shit rather then us having anything to do was a bit disingenuous. But in the first half, we didn't seem to have any shape and players seemed unsure what they needed to do.
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Benteke has 13 in 25 starts now I think this season. He is playing like Carew did in his hot streaks but with more of a goal threat over a prolonged period of time.
I just wish we could find a Leon Osman or Kevin Nolan type goal threat from midfield as Bannan, Westwood and Delph have zippo goals between them from open play which is pretty pathetic in March.
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Guzan was immense today and gave us the platform for the second half come back. If we can keep Weimann and Benteke as a pairing then they're going to be incredible. Though young Andi was brilliant today, and our most dangerous player.
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Can watch MOTD again !
That's got to be one the worst referee's since Uriah Rennie.Twice he let us play the advantage but didn't book the QPR players afterwards.I actually thought Sylla had fouled there player in the build to Gabby's goal, but knew he made that many mistakes he let that one go.
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What a load of old shit.
If you can't do anything but criticise when someone puts their opinion on the forum, why don't you just go somewhere else!
Isn't that just their opinion on those opinions though Achilles?
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Just got back. So all I have to say is YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS get the fuck in. I love you Villa.
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What a load of old shit.
If you can't do anything but criticise when someone puts their opinion on the forum, why don't you just go somewhere else!
Isn't that just their opinion on those opinions though Achilles?
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but if you're going to disagree, then ideally, it'd be in a more explanatory and lucid way than just posting "what a load of shit"
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Oh and the ref was shocking. Missing the blatant backpass set the tone for his 'performance'. We had to beat 12 opposition today.
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Paul Lambert on enthralling victory.
Paul Lambert hailed the team's exceptional reserves of courage as they saw off QPR 2-1 in an enthralling game at Villa Park.
Lambert was pleased with his team's start as they passed their way through the opening quarter but he said the side were rocked by the first goal for the visitors.
Gabby Agbonlahor's late first-half equaliser gave them buoyancy and he was delighted with the quality on show after the break.
He said: "I thought we started the game really well.
"They got a goal and Brad has made three world-class saves, which certainly helped us.
"I thought we started really well, passed it really well but the goal rocked us. It always will, that's an experienced team not just a young team.
"But credit to the players. We scored at the death in the first-half and then after that, we were exceptional.
"We deserve a lot of credit, we were excellent, especially second half.
"I always think we are a threat and today proved it. Especially attacking that Holte End, it can suck the ball in at times.
"What's really pleasing, we were down a goal and pegged it back. QPR contributed to a brilliant game of football I thought - the excitement of it.
"They came back at us really strongly and then Andi Weimann did brilliantly for the third goal. We saw it through, which was really pleasing."
It wasn't just his players who came in for credit from Lambert.
He was also delighted with the contribution of the crowd, hailing the immense noise levels throughout the ninety minutes of high-tempo football.
He continued: "The momentum is there. Liverpool is a really tough next game.
"But we have the crowd right with us. The noise level was fantastic for us today. It gives us a good feeling around the football club."
Lambert refused, however, to be too exuberant because he knows Villa still have a job to do in the closing weeks of the season, as they look to secure their top-flight status.
He added: "There's a long way to go. This is the first time this football club has won back to back games since 2011. It's an incredible stat.
"But the noise of the stadium, the crowd with us, we are certainly playing well enough."
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Sorry I havent checked the whole thread, but can I just say :
Twitch now, Harry you *astard!!!!
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Excellent win and I'm quite exhausted after putting all my nervous energy into watching it.
Looking forward to MoTD.
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How long has it been since we beat a Redknapp side?
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How long has it been since we beat a Redknapp side?
About 1 hour 45 minutes ;-)
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Not bad for a side that was never going to win another game all season and had no heart, passion or fight. I fucking love them, especially Guzan. Watching him in the second half was like looking in a mirror. I can't think of any keeper we've had who seems to care so much.
Also shows what a positive effect a good crowd and atmosphere can have.
And finally, QPR fans were wank, All Billy Big Bollocks when 1 up, then all sat down and complete silence once we scored. Gobby again when they equalised and then nothing once we scored again. He's Harry Redknapp, he's taking you down. He's Paul Lambert, he's keeping us up.
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Excellent win and I'm quite exhausted after putting all my nervous energy into watching it.
Looking forward to MoTD.
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Get on football first - whole game at 8-15 pauline:)
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And before that?
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@andiweimann: Buzzing so much ! What a win ... Brilliant from every single one of us ! #utv
@joebennett27: Good 3 points after my mistake! Well done lads
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We have won, the crowd on my stream was excellent even the satan child stated it, so we must have been loud, the crowd are going to play a big part for the last points available
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@ed_son: QPR were 6 points adrift when Harry Redknapp took over. £25m and 19 games later QPR are 7 points adrift. #redknappmagic
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Fantastic game with a nerve shredding finish. Guzan, incredible. Gabby and Andi Weimman fantastic in the 2nd half. It's not over yet by a long chalk but I'd rather be in our position than Wigan's.
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Disagree brontebilly. Bannan and Westwood played at a pretty similar level today. Both pretty good in possession. Neither offer much protection for the defence. It's pretty embarressing how opposition players can just jog to the edge of our area without any meaningful attempt to dispossess them. That's why I would prefer Sylla to sit deeper.
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Think I read in the pre-match thread that the last time we beat a Redknapp team was when Milan Baros scored the winner in a 1-0 win against Portsmouth before they went on a run of games to survive. Must be about 7/8 years.
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Crowd at VP were top notch today. I agree QPR fans were shite, barely heard a peep apart from when they scored.
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Disagree brontebilly. Bannan and Westwood played at a pretty similar level today. Both pretty good in possession. Neither offer much protection for the defence. It's pretty embarressing how opposition players can just jog to the edge of our area without any meaningful attempt to dispossess them. That's why I would prefer Sylla to sit deeper.
Delph will be back next game .
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Think I read in the pre-match thread that the last time we beat a Redknapp team was when Milan Baros scored the winner in a 1-0 win against Portsmouth before they went on a run of games to survive. Must be about 7/8 years.
I'm guessing that was after the 4-3 at Southampton.
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Disagree brontebilly. Bannan and Westwood played at a pretty similar level today. Both pretty good in possession. Neither offer much protection for the defence. It's pretty embarressing how opposition players can just jog to the edge of our area without any meaningful attempt to dispossess them. That's why I would prefer Sylla to sit deeper.
Delph will be back next game .
I hope not.
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Highlights for me were;
Showing heart and coming back from behind again.
Scoring against the run of play at a vital time, we don't do enough of that.
Bannan and Westwood excellent on the ball, really pleased bannan didn't let his head drop.
Weimans energy and finishing ability seems to have returned.
Gabby is coming back into form at the right time.
Charlie contributing again, he's unlucky not to be starting but is making the difference.
Guzan---immense. As good as any keeper in the division
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Ace second half performance. 6 form 6 deserves loads of credit. Guzan, Gabby, benteke and Weimann were great today.
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What an image that is!
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I took my girlfriend's old man who's a QPR and sat with me in Witton Lane. He took defeat well ;D
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Take that you gobby fucker.
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Well that was a real test for the blood pressure. Massive 3 points. I predicted us to win 3-2 in the pre-match thread and them to hit the bar with the last kick of the game - how close that last shot of theirs was I still don't know. Glad Taraabt didn't start for them - looks real class.Thought Baby Brad kept us in it in the first half with a couple of truly outstanding saves; Gabby nicking a goal against the run of play on the stroke of half time was a huge turning point and we played better in the second half; Weimann deservedly got man of the match (had to be him or Brad) - great exchange of passes for his goal and fantastic persistence for setting up Benteke; the ref was a complete twat and had clearly had an exchange of brown envelopes with Redknob prior to the game; and the best atmosphere in the Holte for years. My head's still spinning
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Disagree brontebilly. Bannan and Westwood played at a pretty similar level today. Both pretty good in possession. Neither offer much protection for the defence. It's pretty embarressing how opposition players can just jog to the edge of our area without any meaningful attempt to dispossess them. That's why I would prefer Sylla to sit deeper.
Delph will be back next game .
I hope not.
I thought he looked pretty good in his last few games. There had been a vast improvement in his performances of late....in my opinion.
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Good teams find a way to win even when they go behind. Well played lads, well played.
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Just seen that Lawro's prediction league has QPR 6th in the table...
As for Taarabt, he's exactly the kind of player who causes us trouble just by taking up central positions and waiting for one/both of our midfielders to go awol or be let down by a poor pass. Zamora influenced the first half in exactly the same way, and that was when Sylla was on the pitch.
I think it comes down to lapses of concentration as much as the way Lambert sets up the team.
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Take that you gobby fucker.
Quite.
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Excellent win and I'm quite exhausted after putting all my nervous energy into watching it.
Looking forward to MoTD.
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Get on football first - whole game at 8-15 pauline:)
Not sure I've got the energy to sit through the 90 minutes again.
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I'm tempted to save the crowd won us that today in the second half. Best atmopshere in years. Great stuff from the Holte end.
In fairness QPR battered us in the first half after our annual slow start in a 6 pointer and huge we somehow got to half time at 1-1.
Second half was much more like it. As predicted our front three + N'zogbia are keeping us up. Benteke was probably our weakest player today and scored the winner.
You've got to fancy us to get two more wins at least this season, I really can't see us going down on 36 or 37 points, QPR won't get that for a start.
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You have to feel sorry for poor old 'Arry, don't you? The wobbly-faced twat.
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Thank you Aston Villa for a great birthday present of 3 points. Guzan and Weimann were amazing. Kevin Friend was shocking.
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Kevin Friend was it? Awful. He must've found those 5 minutes in some kind of time warp.
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Today was my Bournemouth game, needed it, got it. Up yours Ted MacDougal, up yours Redknapp
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Kevin Friend was shocking.
He really was. If it wasn't for the proven, long-standing reputation for scrupulous integrity and honesty that Harry enjoys, I would have sworn he'd paid him off.
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Just before half time I was thinking this looks like the Wigan performance. They defended deep, we passed it around but no width and no threat. So different second half, Weimann and Gabby caused them problems and with Zamora off they lost their link from defence. Thoroughly enjoyed the second half and the result is just MASSIVE. It seems to me the team and the crowd are really pulling together, noisy Holte which is what we need from now on. here's hoping!
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Kevin Friend was shocking.
He really was. If it wasn't for the proven, long-standing reputation for scrupulous integrity and honesty that Harry enjoys, I would have sworn he'd paid him off.
Not only did he give them 5 minutes at the end but once the 5 minutes was up he kept the match going long enough for them to have that last pop at goal. Still, that brown envelope was earned!
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Kevin Friend was it? Awful. He must've found those 5 minutes in some kind of time warp.
Thought the linesman was awful too second half, some very dodgy decisions when QPR looked offside. The ref, what can you say? So many shocking decisions, very poor. He booked Bannan for his first innocuous tug on a player and waved play on when Gabby was fouled several times, never went back to the players to book them.
As others have said, good job we all believe that the premiership is not corrupt in any way or you would start to wonder.........
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Just a massive relief and we have given ourselves a real chance of staying up, so sweet to send Harry and small time Qpr back down south with nothing, the players will have gained a lot of confidence from these two wins , they are showing so much spirit now and seem very together as a group, Paul Lambert deserves some praise for this and he must be feeling so much happier tonight, he has been under incredible pressure since the turn of the year so I hope he enjoys tonight as much as we do.
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Agree with soccerhq above.
The crowd were brilliant today. I haven't heard us make that much noise for years.
Well done everyone.
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That last shot at the end... terrifying. Where did 5+ minutes of injury time come from? I thought the referee was absolutely shocking today.
Guzan... if we stay up he should be carried off the pitch in our last game, colossal.
Everyone else deserves credit, even Bennett, who if he could only cut out those big mistakes might be decent. Special mentions to Weimann and Gabby for their tireless running and endeavour, and Benteke for the winner.
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Disagree brontebilly. Bannan and Westwood played at a pretty similar level today. Both pretty good in possession. Neither offer much protection for the defence. It's pretty embarressing how opposition players can just jog to the edge of our area without any meaningful attempt to dispossess them. That's why I would prefer Sylla to sit deeper.
Delph will be back next game .
I hope not.
I thought he looked pretty good in his last few games. There had been a vast improvement in his performances of late....in my opinion.
Have to agree. I think Westwood and Bannan are simply too similar and it is too costly to have two players in your midfield who are lightweight and don't protect the back four. Delph gets stuck in and makes his presence felt even if he is rash at times.
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For reasons I won't go into the lad and I had to leave after 9 minutes.
We heard the QPR goal and then as we legged it back to the car all we could hear was the Villa crowd.
Wanted so much to see that win; gotta keep this up!
See you all against the 'Pool.
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Bennett came back well after his mistake in fairness to him.
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I think Sylla has, and I'm genuinely surprised, really, made a pretty good impact into our midfield - two games he's played, and we have been much better in possession AND in protecting the back line. I know they have been against two poor teams, but he has done what's been asked of him. Westwood seems revitalised alongside him, and is playing what I think is his more natural game as a result.
I think I'd be inclined to put Delph in there ahead of Bannan at the moment (and I didn't think I'd be saying that any time soon!), and that would give a theoretically sound trio; the 'water carrier' industry, Sylla, the pacesetter passing of Westwood, and the running and surges forward of Delph.
I still think we should be looking for a fair upgrade in that whole area, though.
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Thought the linesman was awful too second half, some very dodgy decisions when QPR looked offside.
Well second half would make it the lines woman but I didn't notice any blatant decisions missed there.
But this match is the first one I've seen when the ref waves play on, the attacking team gets a good shot at goal that just brushed over the bar, and the ref calls it back and gives them the Freekick. As they never scored from that freekick, surely he should have let them have another go as the advantage wasn't taken then either.
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I thought Sylla was pretty poor actually, seemed a bit off the pace. That said that joker of a ref I'm pretty sure he booked Sylla when it was Vlaar who lunged in for the free kick on the edge of the box?!! Clueless.
And as for the 5 minutes....some bloke behind me who said Joe Jordan added it on was probably right, he was in the 4th official's ear all game. There were only 4 subs in the second half and no Baker type injury so I would've been fuming if that Hill shot had flown in.
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To be fair, it wasn't Friend who was in charge of deciding how many mins are added on. I think it is the 4th official isn't it? But adding an additional 30-40 seconds on top of the 5 minutes just showed what a word removed he is. His awarding of advantages were quite amusing too. Giving us pointless advantages only so he wouldn't have to book their players. Yet always pulling play back when their advantages broke down and booking our players. No harm done in the end, so I'll let it go.
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I didn't think Sylla was off the pace at all, I thought he was very good.
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I thought the whole ground were superb today in support of the team. Seeing the players come charging towards the Holte end at the end of the game looking a foot taller than when they first entered the pitch was brilliant.
I think the players saw today how good a crowd we can be and that they shouldn't fear playing at Villa Park
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@joebennett27: Good 3 points after my mistake! Well done lads
Fair play to him. IIRC he held his hands up after the Bradford game too. Like Baker last week, I thought he recovered well after his error and looked solid for the rest of the game.
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Bennett came back well after his mistake in fairness to him.
I don't think he'll make it as a left back. Too small, and positionally rubbish, but going forward looks quite good. The new Gareth Bale then.
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I think Sylla has, and I'm genuinely surprised, really, made a pretty good impact into our midfield - two games he's played, and we have been much better in possession AND in protecting the back line. I know they have been against two poor teams, but he has done what's been asked of him. Westwood seems revitalised alongside him, and is playing what I think is his more natural game as a result.
I think I'd be inclined to put Delph in there ahead of Bannan at the moment (and I didn't think I'd be saying that any time soon!), and that would give a theoretically sound trio; the 'water carrier' industry, Sylla, the pacesetter passing of Westwood, and the running and surges forward of Delph.
I still think we should be looking for a fair upgrade in that whole area, though.
Totally agree, Westwood, sylla and Delph for me too.
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Ozz says he reminds him of Peter Whittingham, could be some legs in that. Probably the right idea as him as a wing back or even left midfield.
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I have aged 10 years watching these two games!
I thought we lacked penetration first half and although we moved the ball well, we did it from ten yards in our own half. The referee was awful and I thought got QPR into the game as it was his decision to award them a free kick which Samba went close from.
They were very direct and had some good chances, but its about taking them and if you defend as badly as they do, then you get all you deserve. Great to see Gabby back in the goals.
The second half was what I was expecting from Lambert. Committed, epitomised in Andi, in the challenge and playing 100 mile an hour football. We looked better with Charlie on, but we had pushed further up and stretched them outwide.
We were much better and dominated second half. Samba began to tire and Benteke got a yard on him time and time again. He is never a 100k per week.
Great to do what the CPS couldn't with Redknapp. Tarrat made a difference in that he used the ball well but gave us acres of space.
Great to hold on, although they didn't force a save in the six minutes the awful Kevin Friend added.
A brilliant atmosphere too.
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I think Sylla has, and I'm genuinely surprised, really, made a pretty good impact into our midfield - two games he's played, and we have been much better in possession
You could argue that is more to do with Bannan's return to the the line up.
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Thank you Aston Villa for a great birthday present of 3 points. Guzan and Weimann were amazing. Kevin Friend was shocking.
Happy birthday Lee. Missed you under the tree today but I was a bit late.
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wish i was in the aston social tonight after that. didn't get any stress today as tuned in at half time and full time! bring on MOTD
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When was the last time we won two league games on the bounce?
22 months ago!
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I thought Sylla was pretty poor actually, seemed a bit off the pace.
No I don't agree. Sylla was very effective and influential.
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I reflected during the game that if we lost we would probably be relegated and if we won we would probably survive. I see no reason to change my mind.
What we really need though is to get results from matches where we should expect nothing, even Man U.
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How long has it been since we beat a Redknapp side?
He was on a 14 games unbeaten run before todays game.
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We do always get shit refs, today was an even shittier than shit ref.
Fair play to Bennett who put in a good show after that horrendous mistake for their first. They all played their part really, no one was off the pace and all seemed up for it in the 2nd half. Must have been some half time talk from Lambert.
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When was the last time we won two league games on the bounce?
22 months ago!
Was that under Gary Mac ?
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If we had lost today we would have been in trouble but not " would be relegated". We don't need to get anything from games v likes of Manu although it would be nice. We just need to win 2 and draw 2 out of last 8 and we will be ok.
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I thought Sylla was pretty poor actually, seemed a bit off the pace.
No I don't agree. Sylla was very effective and influential.
When he had the ball, he played it simple although sometimes it was to the detriment of good attacking intent. But he was also caught out abit and seemed lost positionally (but that related to a lot of the team in the first half.)
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I thought Sylla was pretty poor actually, seemed a bit off the pace.
No I don't agree. Sylla was very effective and influential.
and I did! I thought he was excellent.
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I think Sylla has, and I'm genuinely surprised, really, made a pretty good impact into our midfield - two games he's played, and we have been much better in possession
You could argue that is more to do with Bannan's return to the the line up.
That's a fair point, too. So perhaps he should keep his place ahead of Delph - it would be interesting to see how his passing stats are - I see Westwood clocked up a 97% accuracy in his today!
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The OS have picked up on Westwood's highly impressive stats today.
97% pass completion - 75 passes made, 73 successful
That's pretty impressive for someone who was playing for Crewe not long ago.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3111779,00.html
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The last time we won two back to back they were marquee wins away at Arsenal and at home v Liverpool however they were meaningless in any significant impact. These two games have been won under huge pressure and both after being a goal down. Big big difference.
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Great to hear PL saying how brilliant the fans were today, sounds as if the atmosphere was electric and for all their faults, this team does seem to be showing true grit now.
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Great to hear PL saying how brilliant the fans were today, sounds as if the atmosphere was electric and for all their faults, this team does seem to be showing true grit now.
I am convinced it is largely about confidence with this team - especially at home.
It is very brittle, and is the thin line between results and performances like that at Anfield, and many of the poor ones we've seen this season.
They took a massive bashing with Chelsea, Spurs and Wigan, that was a horrible run of results, and the confidence was on the floor. It seems to be much improved of late, though, and today will have helped hugely.
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Yes, given the context the results in the last two games - and the other 'must win' against Fat Sam - represent a real achievement.
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Just got back in after staying out to watch the rugby. Great win today and I thought we looked as dangerous going forward at times in the 2nd half as we have looked at home all season. I don't think QPR are a bad side, especially going forward and are a bit better than their position suggests, so it was a good result.
When we had the flat three in midfield in the first half, I thought we missed having a player in the "hole" and lacked creativity. I thought Sylla did OK in midfield and we kept possession well at times. Special mention for the fans today, as the atmosphere (especially in the 2nd half) was great.
Oh yeah and on the subject of the ref, how on earth did he miss that backpass in the first half?
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For the rest of this season in midfield I would be very happy to go with Sylla/ Westwood/Delph. With Bannan on the bench.
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The OS have picked up on Westwood's highly impressive stats today.
97% pass completion - 75 passes made, 73 successful
That's pretty impressive for someone who was playing for Crewe not long ago.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3111779,00.html
Westwood is a proper player, we need genuine central midfield class around him next season.
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All the goals (http://www.101greatgoals.com/gvideos/aston-villa-3-qpr-2-3/)
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We all know how the atmosphere *can* be at Villa Park when things aren't going well. But when it really, really matters Villa supporters always step up.
I am very proud of everyone who made it there today. Some posters on here travelled long distances and made real sacrifices, and I believe the crowd made the difference.
Those were our three points.
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Kevin Friend was it? Awful. He must've found those 5 minutes in some kind of time warp.
Thought the linesman was awful too second half, some very dodgy decisions when QPR looked offside. The ref, what can you say? So many shocking decisions, very poor. He booked Bannan for his first innocuous tug on a player and waved play on when Gabby was fouled several times, never went back to the players to book them.
As others have said, good job we all believe that the premiership is not corrupt in any way or you would start to wonder.........
Which QPR player was it that grabbed a Villa player round the ankles ?
The Ref rightly played advantage but then never even went back to have a word with the QPR player, let alone book him
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For the rest of this season in midfield I would be very happy to go with Sylla/ Westwood/Delph. With Bannan on the bench.
Think we need the creativety of N'Zog for home games especially
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Kevin Friend was it? Awful. He must've found those 5 minutes in some kind of time warp.
Thought the linesman was awful too second half, some very dodgy decisions when QPR looked offside. The ref, what can you say? So many shocking decisions, very poor. He booked Bannan for his first innocuous tug on a player and waved play on when Gabby was fouled several times, never went back to the players to book them.
As others have said, good job we all believe that the premiership is not corrupt in any way or you would start to wonder.........
Which QPR player was it that grabbed a Villa player round the ankles ?
The Ref rightly played advantage but then never even went back to have a word with the QPR player, let alone book him
Twice.
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Hugely relieved at the win, though I know little about it as for the second week in a row I stayed away from TV, radio etc. and checked the result after. Will watch on Sky game of the day.
I also thought a win would mean the odds are we will survive, but with Wigan having two games in hand and Southampton beating 'The Mighty Reds YNWA' we aint out of the woods just yet. Still a few teams just above us will be more nervous now and hopefully our confidence will be boosted by these two wins and it will be onwards and upwards.
Impressive attendance too. Have we ever lost when Benteke scores?
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The OS have picked up on Westwood's highly impressive stats today.
97% pass completion - 75 passes made, 73 successful
That's pretty impressive for someone who was playing for Crewe not long ago.
http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~3111779,00.html
Westwood is a proper player, we need genuine central midfield class around him next season.
Agree. Get rid of Ireland and offer his £85,000 a week to Gareth Barry!!
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The turn and finish by Weimann for our second is simply outstanding. Messi-esque given the time and space that he had to receive the ball, be aware of his surroundings, turn inside and wrong foot the defence and finish clinically and powerfully with his left foot.
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Weimann's work for the third goal was absolutely superb
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Guzan 8 - 2 outstanding saves in the first half. Dominant in the air again and passed it more into midfield than usual. been a big find for us this season and likely to be our keeper for many years
Lowton 4 - An assist and should have had a goal. One great block in the second half. In between all that he was horribly out of his depth. His form of late is in the same vein as Hutton or De La Cruz. Physically weak, positionally awful and beaten for pace throughout
Vlaar 5 - doesnt look fully fit. His organisation skills are desperate, definitely a follower rather than a leader. was the best of our back 4 but that wasnt saying much if anything
Clark 4 - woeful really. Same as Lowton decent on the ball but lots of the same weaknesses, physically weak, slow and rash. Not good enough I'm afraid and I had high hopes for him
Baker 5 - there is brave and then there is reckless. Baker falls in the later category and the injury he picked up was a result of putting himself in a position where he could have got seriously injured. Poor defender in any case
Sylla 5 - positionally seemed a bit all over the place today. definitely still very raw but his strength and mobility was badly lacking following his subsitution.
Bannan 4 - good game last week but hopeless in this one. the decision to replace Sylla and not him could have cost us the game. His limitations without the ball are pretty obvious but was very disappointed with him today with the ball. Thought the occasion got to him and certainly he didnt get on the ball as much as he should have.
Westwood 8 - despite his best efforts, without the ball he is almost as ineffective as Bannan. Was part of a midfield destroyed on the counter attack at time. However with the ball I thought he was excellent today. Always looking to get on the ball, great positioning and football intelligence about picking the right pass. He was involved in all our best football. Needs Delph next to him.
Weimann 8 - not in the game at all in the first half. But what leadership he showed in the second half. Another goal but his assist was our best play of the season. The contrast between the guts he showed and the lack that his direction opponent Fabio did was striking
Gabby 8 - shite in the first half, he needed to target Boswinga but instead floated around doing nothing. But the goal woke him up and with Benteke misfiring badly, he showed great leadership in the second half.
Benteke 5 - beaten up a stick by Samba today. Terrible defending on the opening set piece and offered us very little going forward. Still scored the winner and will have learned more today than the last couple of games where he was outstanding.
Bennett 5 - horrible start. tidy player on the ball certainly but too physically weak to be a defender at this level
Nzogbia 7 - slow enough start but soon found space and was involved in the winner with a good pass to Weimann. Bit unlucky to be out of the side at the moment
Bowery - not on long enough
Agree with these ratings. Awful first half, then Gabby scores one of the most vital Villa goals in years. Second half we really did show some fight and we deserved our win.
Special mention to two absolute tossers in Redknapp and the Ref. How the hell can he justify playing nearly 6 minutes in added time and nearly giving a heart attack? And that bastard Redknapp - his comments after the game were deluded beyond belief. Yes we were shite first half but in the second we took the game to them and punished the cockney bastards. You got what you deserved from the game.... Nothing!
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Good atmosphere today, that shot was so close at the end, and QPR could probably argue that with their 1st half performance that they did'nt deserve to lose.
Guzan......MOM in the 1st half, played well throughout
Lowton.......not sure about Lowton, defensively gets beat too often, but looks good going foward, better 2nd half.
Baker.......needs to calm down a bit, throws himself in to unwinnable challenges sometimes
Bennett....mistake for 1st goal, played well for me after that, made the 2nd goal for Weimann
Clark.....played ok, not a big fan, but has played well in the last 2 games.
Vlaar....was very good today, very solid 2nd half, a proper captains game.
Westwood.....nice footballer, moves the ball well, for me needs to be a bit more positive, and lacks physicality.
Bannan....as above
Sylla.......looks a good prospect.Quick, can pass, can tackle.Look a better team with him in.
Gabby....until the goal, i thought he was poor, the goal was very important, and his pace always causes teams problems.Wish he had a better touch.
Weimann....MOM, and probably my favourite Villa player atm.Always looks as if he has a goal in him, always lively, creative, does not stop working.If any player is worth a significant pay increase, it is him.
Benteke.....wonderful, wonderful, player.As good a player as i have seen down VP.Need to keep him for at least another 1/2 years
N'Zog....i thought he played well when he came on, and we looked better going foward.We have some good foward players.
Bowery.....always does ok when he came on.Quite quick, nice touch, great cross for Gabby, think he could turn out to be a good purchase.
I trhought we lacked physical presence in the 2nd half, and we need more power and pace in the central midfield positions in particular, that for me is why we don't win more games.
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Bennett came back well after his mistake in fairness to him.
Agree.
Set up Weimann and made some great tackles.
But, even with his pass for their goal Jenas ran between 2 Villa players to get the ball.
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Bennett came back well after his mistake in fairness to him.
Agree.
Set up Weimann
Vlaar made a specific point in thanking Bennett's contribution as he passed him on the way back for the kickoff.
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Fuck me, that was a truly amazing save from Samba's header at 0-0.
Absolutely top drawer.
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Fucking brilliant.
A big thumbs up to Guzan and Gabby who worked his bollocks off.
Apart from the last 5 minutes, it was a great game to watch.
The atmosphere was also superb, so the crowd get MOTM.
2 wins on the bounce, which might explain my nosebleed.
As a bonus I had £4 on us to win 3-2 at 28-1.
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First half, the less said the better.
Second half, we played very well. Gabby and Weimann played wide, we moved the ball quicker and took the game to them. This is when we've looked best all season.
The rest of the season should involve us attacking teams.
All played well 2nd half, but Guzan throughout, and credit to him for keeping us in it.
Westwood should/could go onto better things than us. Love his passing and ability to take the ball and move it on despite great pressure on him.
COME ON!!!!!!!
Best game if the season.
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Listen to Jimmy Armfield spout on about Weiman not being a natural finisher , before he scored his goal , Really Jim????
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Listen to Jimmy Armfield spout on about Weiman not being a natural finisher , before he scored his goal , Really Jim????
Just proves how little he's seen him play to warrant an opinion on him. The one thing Weimann definitely is, is a natural finisher.
Armfield should really do his homework first.
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I didn't think Sylla was off the pace at all, I thought he was very good.
Agree Paul.
Thought he did the simple things well and was (football cliche) tidy.
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For various reasons today was the first time for me back at VP since 1973. What a day to go back. Good game. great atmosphere & great win. Thanks lads, UTV.
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Well done lads, great result today!
God I love Aston Villa
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I think Sylla has, and I'm genuinely surprised, really, made a pretty good impact into our midfield - two games he's played, and we have been much better in possession
You could argue that is more to do with Bannan's return to the the line up.
That's a fair point, too. So perhaps he should keep his place ahead of Delph - it would be interesting to see how his passing stats are - I see Westwood clocked up a 97% accuracy in his today!
As I have said earlier, Westwood and Bannan are far too similar for me. It should generally be one or the other. Delph just adds a little more bite which is why I think he should come straight back in. I'd prefer Westwood over Bannan if just for the reason that his set-piece delivery isn't as bad as Bannans. It's one thing that I still can't get my head around. Floated corners have acheived nothing all season, so why doesn't PL tell them to start whipping them in?
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As i've said before, it will be the front line of Benteke, Bent, Weimann, Gabby and N'Zogbia that will keep us up.
Westwood aside, our midfield is ordinary.
The defence is a serious problem.
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Just home from the game. That really was the Thrilla at the Villa. Great entertainment, great atmosphere, great win. The only thing I would change would be the choice of MOTM. Brad Guzan's early saves were breathtaking and saved us from almost certain defeat. I do not agree with much Lambert says but I do agree with him that we have the best goalkeeper in the Premiership.
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Fantasic result I bloody love you Villa and HArry piss off with your belittling of the Villa post match you have ruined yet another club
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Guzan and Weimann were excellent today.
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For various reasons today was the first time for me back at VP since 1973. What a day to go back. Good game. great atmosphere & great win. Thanks lads, UTV.
Good for you.
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Fantasic result I bloody love you Villa and HArry piss off with your belittling of the Villa post match you have ruined yet another club
Yes, 'appy 'arry certainly was bitter at the post match press conference. Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!
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That puts us up to 6th in the form table.
To clarify from earlier (a few people did anyway).
If that game is the 1 that effectively ends QPRs chances of staying up I'll love it. They are pretty much the definition of everything wrong with football, spending the stupid money they have on over-the-hill journeymen and mercenaries along with employing the 2 of the dodgiest wankers around as the 2 managers who've been involved has had me wanting them down all year. I hope they fall a long way, the Samba deal in particular was ridiculous for a club in that situation.
I think there's some very harsh ratings been put on here, there's no way any of our team deserved less than a 6 for today.
They had some chances from corners and free kicks which you'd expect from a team with Samba, they scored 2, 1 from an error, and another that was going straight to Guzan before a big deflection.
I'm fairly convinced that the 'gameplan' was to keep it tight in the first 20 and get them chasing the ball, which was working well until the ref started giving them everything he could. Once they scored they got their confidence up and we struggled to get a hold on the game but I never felt they were much better than us as some suggested, a lot of their attacking was long balls relying on the pace of townsend and remy to get onto anything Zamora could provide.
2nd half we upped the tempo and they couldn't live with us, we could easily have won by more than we did, the Lowton chance in particular we should've done better from (Weimann getting on that and it's 3-1).
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Fantasic result I bloody love you Villa and HArry piss off with your belittling of the Villa post match you have ruined yet another club
Yes, 'appy 'arry certainly was bitter at the post match press conference. Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!Ha!
What did Droopy say? (whilst having his gnarled twig of a penis sucked by the media)
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Fantasic result I bloody love you Villa and HArry piss off with your belittling of the Villa post match you have ruined yet another club
Not seen/heard it. What did he say?
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As I have said earlier, Westwood and Bannan are far too similar for me. It should generally be one or the other.
Yes I know. Spain have a similar problem!
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As a bonus I had £4 on us to win 3-2 at 28-1.
You bastard... Well done.
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My sister-in-law (supports Béziers egg-chasers) has been getting very concerned of late. She has asked to be informed by text message of all Villa results.
What a fucking joy it has been to text her over the last two weeks.
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Harry Redknapp can suck my cheesy Hampton.
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I might text that to my sister-in-law.
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Thought Sylla was decent enough, but he does seem to hit every pass quite hard.
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I'd just fuckin love them to go down. His post match comments just stank of sour grapes. Can't wait to see him squirm when they're relegated. Don't you know he'll blame everyone for their demise but himself.
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I might text that to my sister-in-law.
Suce ma taupe! (Parfum fromage)
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Aveuglement.
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He really doesn't like us does he ? I usually get wound up when he is slagging us off , but that Face like a bulldog licking the piss off a stinging nettle was one resigned to relegation.
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Which QPR player was it that grabbed a Villa player round the ankles ?
The Ref rightly played advantage but then never even went back to have a word with the QPR player, let alone book him
Twice.
Yes this, the back pass and the Basingwa free kick allowed to be taken from closer and better angle were glaringly biased decision. It's funny that he allowed QPR advantage, trip outside the area, and when their player executed that by shooting over the bar he pulled the play back and gave them the free kick. This was laughable decision.
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We all know how the atmosphere *can* be at Villa Park when things aren't going well. But when it really, really matters Villa supporters always step up.
I am very proud of everyone who made it there today. Some posters on here travelled long distances and made real sacrifices, and I believe the crowd made the difference.
Those were our three points.
Yes this was good and very impressed with nearly 39k there.
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Redknapp is a complete knob, 6 points adrift when he got the job and now 7, despite plunging them into even more debt. He is full of shite. I really want them to go down and who is going to pay Sambas £100k a week wage lol
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I'd just fuckin love them to go down. His post match comments just stank of sour grapes. Can't wait to see him squirm when they're relegated. Don't you know he'll blame everyone for their demise but himself.
He really is a twat.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21817182
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Our dog celebrating our first back to back win in nearly 2 years.
(http://imageshack.us/a/img46/1817/20130316009.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/46/20130316009.jpg/)
Congratulations to the lads today, especially Brad, some fabulous saves.
MOTD tonight without hiding behind the sofa...
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Not long home, post match activities included visiting a few relatives [one of whom was watching whatever Ant & Dec's Saturday night programme is - one of the questions was who won the game between Villa & QPR - the contestant knew the correct answer]. As someone who couldn't explain the offside rule if my life depended on it, even I could see how awful the ref was today - truly shocking. Guzan looks like he really cares.
As an aside, in the car on the way home, when it became apparent, ie, after 5 seconds of listening, that the rugby result was going to be crap for England, we tuned into Talk Sport for the first time in probably over 10 years. Have to say, Stan Collymore sounded a much better presenter than Robbie Savage.
Just hope I'm still awake for MOTD.
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I'd forgotten how bad Beelzebub is as a commentator. First he said that Weimann was thro' on goal then changed his mind and said it was Westwood. The main commentator then had to correct him and state that it was Lowton.
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For the rest of this season in midfield I would be very happy to go with Sylla/ Westwood/Delph. With Bannan on the bench.
I didn't really notice Messi today, so he must have had a good game by his standards. Still, I'd bring Delph straight back in.
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Haven't read through the thread as just got back but it was a real game of 2 halves, could easily have been 4 down but goal on half time and Zamora going off changed the game. 2nd half we were excellent and for the first time this season I'm convinced we are staying up.
Excellent atmosphere and I bloody loved watching my son celebrating the goals and at the final whistle, he's one very happy boy tonight! Good work Villa!
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Was Zamora injured ?
If not, that was a very poor decision by 'Arry
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We all know how the atmosphere *can* be at Villa Park when things aren't going well. But when it really, really matters Villa supporters always step up.
I am very proud of everyone who made it there today. Some posters on here travelled long distances and made real sacrifices, and I believe the crowd made the difference.
Those were our three points.
Yes this was good and very impressed with nearly 39k there.
Great turn out and watching it on tv over here was electric. Fantastic atmosphere. Keep it up for the Bindippers game. Salute to all at VP today. UTV.
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Just got back. Days like today make it all worthwhile. The atmosphere was superb and the result matched it.
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When Candlefatface disses the Villa I hope somebody at VP is taking notes to read back to him when he comes groveling for a loan player or two to help him survive in the Championship. I seem to recall another media bumboy who called Villa "a two bob team" but still begged the Fonz off us.
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Was Zamora injured ?
If not, that was a very poor decision by 'Arry
Zamora's body is falling apart, he needs an operation on his hip.
Remy barely got a kick in the second half.
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Remy barely got a kick in the second half.
But he was a few inches shy of scoring when we took the lead the second time.
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I likec this comment on the Beeb match report
Foreign Pundit: Senor Redknapp, you spend much money, but you are still bottom of table. Why?
Redknapp: Yeh, luvly jubbly, mate...eh, wait a minute, you're supposed to say how great I am? Where's Lawro or Hanson?
Foreign Pundit: You only win a few games?
Redknapp: No, you're supposed to say I'm a great manager!
Foreign Pundit: Why?
Redknapp: I'm England material!
Foreign Pundit: Ha ha, funny joke!
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Glad we beat them. Very very glad. Vital for survival whilst dumping that shady twunt and bunch of mercenaries in the shite.
Missus reckons it is down to her as she has bet on Villa wins the last 2 weeks.
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Zamora should come to us then. We offer a very good medical rehabilitation contract. You don't actually have to play ever, just draw the wages and let the specialists write long letters full of anatomical references to our chief executive. Then when you are better you can leave and play for somebody else. You may even do so well with us that you can come back and score against us. Just post your application form to our Professional Assessment Consultants - Stas, Downing, Jenas, Dunne and Associates for the attention of Monsieur Makoun.
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Haven't read through the thread as just got back but it was a real game of 2 halves, could easily have been 4 down but goal on half time and Zamora going off changed the game. 2nd half we were excellent and for the first time this season I'm convinced we are staying up.
Excellent atmosphere and I bloody loved watching my son celebrating the goals and at the final whistle, he's one very happy boy tonight! Good work Villa!
Good to hear Chris. Good to see the villa putting smiles on faces!
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Zamora should come to us then. We offer a very good medical rehabilitation contract. You don't actually have to play ever, just draw the wages and let the specialists write long letters full of anatomical references to our chief executive. Then when you are better you can leave and play for somebody else. You may even do so well with us that you can come back and score against us. Just post your application form to our Professional Assessment Consultants - Stas, Downing, Jenas, Dunne and Associates for the attention of Monsieur Makoun.
[/quoteJenas is a twat of the highest order.
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I leave the Lower North after the match by walking across the front and then up past the away fans. Quite a few were blarting. I reckon a few of them think they are gone now.
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Survival of the fittest. Fuck'em.
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No, they were blarting because they had to go home to places like Greenford and Hayes and Yeading and Staines
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Don't care about Tony Gubba.
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A few extra thoughts. QPR have better players than us. It is amazing they are bottom it really is.
Samba is a beast. I have not seen a defender just own Benteke like he did today in the first half. Astonishing.
Finally I am so happy this team is fighting for each other. Very little finger pointing always supporting each other. Vlaar should take credit for some of that.
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I leave the Lower North after the match by walking across the front and then up past the away fans. Quite a few were blarting. I reckon a few of them think they are gone now.
Last Sunday, as Mr Lizz was flicking round the tv channels and lingered on SSN for more than 5 seconds, I was gobsmacked to see a former overpaid, over-rated consultant who worked where I work, raving about how QPR would stay in the Premier League. I'd no idea he was a QPR fan, anyway, I've no sympathy for him. Or them.
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A few extra thoughts. QPR have better players than us. It is amazing they are bottom it really is.
Samba is a beast. I have not seen a defender just own Benteke like he did today in the first half. Astonishing.
Finally I am so happy this team is fighting for each other. Very little finger pointing always supporting each other. Vlaar should take credit for some of that.
Totally agree.
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[at 1-0] we have a great situation, and then they break away and score, comin' it, one-awl and they cant believe their luck, really, because they should have been aht the game
C***.
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Bugger off Redknapp.
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Well what a brilliant Villa day!
It was my sisters Birthday today so I bought her a ticket for the game as she's a mad Villa fan but is unable to get too many games and she was really looking forward to it. I popped into the Villa shop to get her a shirt and then met her in the Barton Arms.
Game was fantastic better than I could have hoped for and I got her a Birthday wish on the video screen which she was chuffed about.
After the match we had a family meal in the city centre and who should walk into the restaurant but Nzogbia and sylla.
So without trying to make a nuisance of myself I discreetly took the shirt I bought for my sister and kindly asked both if they wouldn't mind quickly signing the shirt my sister luckily had with her that I bought.
Both of them were great and happily signed the shirt and chatted to me briefly though Sylla doesn't speak English Charlie interpreted.
So thanks to both of them as that final piece really made my sisters day she was so chuffed!
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Dion's sounding balanced and reasonable on MOTD.
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Vital result, performance really doesn't matter at the stage. But it took a lot of guts & effort to drag ourselves out of that first half performance. There have been plenty of games this season where we didn't get the result we deserved so I'll take whatever luck we get, as we've earned it.
Ref was a biased twat, back pass, free kicks, the advantage rule which was applied differently, booking our players but letting their's away with the same thing.
There's still a long, long way to go, but today was a huge step towards safety. It's in our hands now & we have to make sure it stays that way.
UTV
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Sorry to piss on your Harry Redknapp Great Escape bonfire, Lineker.
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Not sure I can remember a game without a single offside decision.
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I wonder what the media view will be of Redknapp when he takes QPR down. I hope we find out. Ditto MONderland.
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They will all look the other way.
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The fans sounded incredible.
Fans of the year.
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The fans sounded incredible.
Fans of the year.
That's what I thought. It brought a tear to my eyes today listening the the noise the fans were making getting behind the team. The crowd was immense and up there with big Brad and Andi as the players of the day.
Also enjoyed the emotion Lambert showed, he clearly wants to do well at Villa.
A great day today.
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The agility and ball control Weimann showed for his goal and his assist were astonishing. It was far more than a question of QPR not defending. Keeping the ball in play and laying it off to Benteke were almost impossible feats.
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What a wanker that ref was. Did all he could for them.
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The media go into raptures at some of the useless, wanky trickery Taarabt indulges in. Like taking a showy extra touch before flicking the ball wide with the outside of his foot. They suck up that bullshit all day long, and yet genuine skill resulting in a goal is just poor defending.
Piss off. Who won?
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Yes I couldn't believe how Weimann kept the ball in and played it with control when I saw it from Witton Upper. Having seen it a few times on tv I still can't grasp it. It was an amazing feat of athleticism, skill and vision.
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I'm even more amazed Kevin Friend didn't blow for a goal kick. Nine bob note
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Not sure I can remember a game without a single offside decision.
Benteke is learning :D
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Every may / June when we renew our season tickets - after scrimping , saving and arguing about the cost again with the wife - you hope for a game like today. A game that makes it all worth it . It was ace , I loved every second. Gabby was immense - Wiemann and Guzan superb too .
Best atmosphere since beating the dog shit 5-1 . Come on !!!!
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why did baker go off?
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why did baker go off?
Possible concussion from when he dived for the ball 6 inches above the ground. Probably felt dizzy when he ran for the ball after coming on from treatment.
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Just watching the highlights. What an atmosphere.
Also....watching Brad....what a keeper, who obviously loves the Villa. Great to see!
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It was an excellent performance all round today.
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The fans sounded incredible.
Fans of the year.
Absolutely
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Harry Houdini - my fucking arse.
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why did baker go off?
In related news, anyone know why Barry didn't take the penalty?
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Bullshit, isn't it. He has spent a ton of money, had all the goodwill imaginable, and done nothing at all.
I reckon if Hughes had stayed in charge they'd have around the same number of points.
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Bye bye Harry.
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I was appalled by those highlights. From what I was watching, QPR had a great last half hour of the first half but not much else, that seemed to indicate they should have beat us 6-3. Pro Candlewax face editing.
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Only just got home, what a great win.
Last 2 games the lads have shown great character and togetherness and special mention to the villa fans who have been brilliant again today, great turnout and great support.
Oh and the referee ? What the ...
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I think we have shown great spirit for quite a few games to be honest. Yes we had a mad christmas when they seemed to be on the piss more than Oliver Reed, but they have regrouped as a team and seem to be a team. Well done to them and more importantly to the manager
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As for Redknapps post match comments, yes QPR did play very well they have good players, but overall we were better and we deserved the win.
Up the villa.
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A few extra thoughts. QPR have better players than us. It is amazing they are bottom it really is.
Samba is a beast. I have not seen a defender just own Benteke like he did today in the first half. Astonishing.
Finally I am so happy this team is fighting for each other. Very little finger pointing always supporting each other. Vlaar should take credit for some of that.
Do they fuck have better players. A good player is not an individual entity, but as much a component of how he is able to integrate with those around him. Put in the correct environment and application he can become the player he is capable of. Instead QPR are exactly the opposite and when it all ends in tears watch the finger pointing and ship abandoning. The owner there has put his faith in mercenaries and anyone who thinks Lerner is naive need only take a quick look at the mess Fernandes has on his hands. QPR's players aren't better than us, or really anyone else in the division which is why they will finish bottom and deservedly so.
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A few extra thoughts. QPR have better players than us. It is amazing they are bottom it really is.
Samba is a beast. I have not seen a defender just own Benteke like he did today in the first half. Astonishing.
Finally I am so happy this team is fighting for each other. Very little finger pointing always supporting each other. Vlaar should take credit for some of that.
Do they fuck have better players. A good player is not an individual entity, but as much a component of how he is able to integrate with those around him.
I thought he was talking about the players specifically as individual entities, though, and reflecting on their failure to form a team.
If you looked at the two team sheets prior to kick off, and you were a neutral, you'd have probably seen more 'obvious' quality in their team than ours.
I actually thought QPR were quite decent. I am not at all convinced by their great escape credentials from their two previous games, but they don't really look like a bottom of the league side. I thought they played quite well for decent spells today.
Fuck them, though, because they went away with zero points, the ******.
Interesting to see 3,000 QPR fans there today, too. I remember a game a few years ago when we played them, and they had the smallest away following I have ever seen.
I remember (it was a boring game) actually counting them, and there were about 160 of them.
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A few extra thoughts. QPR have better players than us. It is amazing they are bottom it really is.
Samba is a beast. I have not seen a defender just own Benteke like he did today in the first half. Astonishing.
Finally I am so happy this team is fighting for each other. Very little finger pointing always supporting each other. Vlaar should take credit for some of that.
Do they fuck have better players. A good player is not an individual entity, but as much a component of how he is able to integrate with those around him. Put in the correct environment and application he can become the player he is capable of. Instead QPR are exactly the opposite and when it all ends in tears watch the finger pointing and ship abandoning. The owner there has put his faith in mercenaries and anyone who thinks Lerner is naive need only take a quick look at the mess Fernandes has on his hands. QPR's players aren't better than us, or really anyone else in the division which is why they will finish bottom and deservedly so.
On paper, if you think back to their best seasons then the qpr squad is decent, but too many are there for a last pay day having realised they can't play at a higher level any more. I had them as favourites to go down in the summer and I've never changed my mind about it. I'd much rather have our squad, even if they stay up they're fucked next year because they're only going to get weaker unless they keep throwing around stupid money for players like Samba.
As for Samba bossing Benteke, he had his hands all over him in the first half, 2nd half Benteke started moving away from him sooner and was much better because Samba has fuck all mobility around the pitch. A lot of what Samba was doing in challenges is stuff that Benteke has been being pulled up for recently, there were a couple where he waited for Benteke to leave the ground and then nudged him, which should be a free kick but just gets ignored far too often.
However, I agree on the fight we show, we've got a lot of passion in the side and they look like they're starting to believe now, If we can get all these guys really believing in themselves we're really not far from having a very good squad. I already think we have the best attack outside the top 5.
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Haven't read the thread, but I thought the ref was very inconsistent with his interpretation of 'advantage'. During the first half we were twice given free kicks for fouls around the half way line when we had retained possession and were moving forward - the free kicks gave QPR the opportunity to drop back behind the ball. Then, there was that incident where a QPR player was clearly fouled on the edge of our area, the ref played advantage and allowed him to ride a couple of challenges and take a shot on goal that went narrowly wide. When he missed, the ref pulled the game back for the free kick on the edge of the area. Surely the 'advantage' was the opportunity to have a shot on goal? I can only assume that the ref considered that the 'advantage' would have been to actually score a goal? F**king mental.
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Ref had clearly taken a bung , allegedly .
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A few extra thoughts. QPR have better players than us. It is amazing they are bottom it really is.
Samba is a beast. I have not seen a defender just own Benteke like he did today in the first half. Astonishing.
Finally I am so happy this team is fighting for each other. Very little finger pointing always supporting each other. Vlaar should take credit for some of that.
Do they fuck have better players. A good player is not an individual entity, but as much a component of how he is able to integrate with those around him. Put in the correct environment and application he can become the player he is capable of. Instead QPR are exactly the opposite and when it all ends in tears watch the finger pointing and ship abandoning. The owner there has put his faith in mercenaries and anyone who thinks Lerner is naive need only take a quick look at the mess Fernandes has on his hands. QPR's players aren't better than us, or really anyone else in the division which is why they will finish bottom and deservedly so.
I think as individuals they are better players on paper at least. Just look at that midfield & defence line up, offered that to us last summer and we would have bitten your hand off.
You are right it astonishes me how poorly they have gelled as a team. When you look at the team sheets as a neutral you would expect QPR to win, in fact they just seem like strangers all the time. Amazing.
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Provided there is a firesale in QPR in the summer, which of their players should we be interested in? For all the talk of superior individual players I dont think there is that many that would improve us. Samba naturally but we won't be able to afford him. Not sure what clubs will be willing to shell out 12m for him to be honest.
Was watching Fabio as a potential target but his attitude was a disgrace. Onouha surprisingly can't get in ahead of Boswinga but if he was going cheap would be a good option at right back and centre half. Park was outplayed by Westwood and seems another to swerve. Remy certainly is dangerous but with his injury record we couldn't afford to take a punt. Tarrabt played well today but is far too inconsistent. Junior Holiet potentially at the right price would be worth a punt. Townsend looks a decent player but will player a lot more at Spurs next season I imagine.
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Remy,Samba and Tarrabt for me. I think Lambert could sort out attitude problems. Out of all of them if money was no object Samba would be a clear upgrade for us.
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I don't think I would take a single one of them. Their team sheet looks like an O'Neill team. More reputation than substance.
It's not quite the same as saying we have better players in every position, Hoillett may do a better job than Gabby, Samba is better than any defender we have without being particularly convincing. Maybe M'Bia would do a bit for our midfield, but I wouldn't necessarily put him ahead of Sylla on today's showing.
They're at QPR and bottom of the league for a reason, and it isn't just because they don't fit together as a team.
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Disagree brontebilly. Bannan and Westwood played at a pretty similar level today. Both pretty good in possession. Neither offer much protection for the defence. It's pretty embarressing how opposition players can just jog to the edge of our area without any meaningful attempt to dispossess them. That's why I would prefer Sylla to sit deeper.
Neither are suited to a 2 man midfield which is what we played the last half hour with. Not even a Keane or Vieira at their peak would be able to cover a midfield with both of them. Thankfully we won so its immaterial but Lambert showed dreadful tactical naively at 2-1 up replacing Sylla. We were effectively played end to end football then with those kamikaze tactics . With the ball Westwood was superb I thought. Orchestrated the play throughout. Thought there was a huge difference between Bannan and himself in that regard.
While our attacking play in the second half was excellent, we were appalling without the ball. The bottom side in the league came to Villa Park and forced Guzan into 3 superb saves, hit the post, Remy missed a sitter after we went 3-2 up and Hill's shot at the end was inches wide. There was a crucial last ditch block from Lowton late on too. Last week against Reading we coughed up a number of chances.
Two crucial wins but we need to keep up 2 goals a game to get results
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Was there any abuse aimed at redknapp today from the Holte or the fans behind the dugouts?
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Harry wants to be careful telling his mates in the press that we were 'lucky' to win, having played terribly.
That implies that his team were even worse. Which is not part of the Harry Houdini Great Escape narrative.
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So harry said they were so much the better team that it was embarrassing ? Nothing worse than a bad loser - the stats shows we had 60% possession and 6 to their 7 shots on target plus 9 corners to their 6 .
The only thing embarrassing is how ridiculously shit a club must be to have spent the money qpr have done and be bottom with 23 points in 30 games.
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dont worry old droopy draws will be on to his next project in the summer and the fire sale at QPR will begin
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Interesting to see 3,000 QPR fans there today, too. I remember a game a few years ago when we played them, and they had the smallest away following I have ever seen.
I remember (it was a boring game) actually counting them, and there were about 160 of them.
I think we played them some seasons ago when they were already relegated from the premier league. From memory, and this was in the days that away fans were in the North Stand, there was enough room for them to do some sort of Hokey Cokey type dance routine.
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Ref had clearly taken a bung , allegedly .
He was indeed an alleged cheat, who alleged ally gave them every decision and played 6 mins of added time sited of the stipulated 5, the alleged tnuc.
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Ref had clearly taken a bung , allegedly .
He was indeed an alleged cheat, who allegedly gave them every decision and played 6 mins of added time sited of the stipulated 5, the alleged tnuc.
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I leave the Lower North after the match by walking across the front and then up past the away fans. Quite a few were blarting. I reckon a few of them think they are gone now.
The way their players collapsed on the field after the final whistle, they were thinking the same.
Great result and fantastic atmosphere. The white strips kicking off through the PA system as we were leaving was brilliant too. The Benteke chant was still going all the way back to the social. It's been so, so long since I've felt that good after a match at villa park. Everyone was in high spirits.
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I wouldn't take Samba. We can do a lot better than somebody as one paced as him.
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I wouldn't take Samba. We can do a lot better than somebody as one paced as him.
Really don't think he's worth the £100,000 per week they're paying him.
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I wouldn't take Samba. We can do a lot better than somebody as one paced as him.
Really don't think he's worth the £100,000 per week they're paying him.
He had 2 decent efforts on goal, but defensively he was poor. Gabby's goal was easy.
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Ref had clearly taken a bung , allegedly .
He was indeed an alleged cheat, who alleged ally gave them every decision and played 6 mins of added time sited of the stipulated 5, the alleged tnuc.
This need not be alleged as I would like to confirm it!
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Remy,Samba and Tarrabt for me. I think Lambert could sort out attitude problems. Out of all of them if money was no object Samba would be a clear upgrade for us.
Remy no he is half hearted and as others have said injury prone and on far too much money.
Samba no. He was their main defender and all our front 3 scored and he is on far too much money.
Tartbutt no as he is a number one ***t and showcase pony and on far too much money.
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Just caught the end of Match of the Day to see Jenas picked in their 'team of the day'. I know he scored, but....really? They didn't think Westwood was the better midfielder yesterday?
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Just watching MOTD again.
@ed_son: QPR were 6 points adrift when Harry Redknapp took over. £25m and 19 games later QPR are 7 points adrift. #redknappmagic
^THIS^!!!! All day, this. Ha! "They can't believe their luck"? You disrespectful twunt. I hope every side is that lucky against you
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Redknapp is a bitter clown using two good chances to masquarade their ineptitude second half.
The best line was " there was no comparison between the two teams out there".
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Same old defensive frailties. Another goal given away by fannying about across the back four. Another game where we only turn up for 45 minutes.
But you know what? Fuck it. We won so I dont care.
Even more satisfying was to know we did it against a blatantly biased ref and a bitter and twisted ticcing Redknapp who couldn't even bring himself to say our name in his post match interview.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha etc.
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How many teams has harry relegated...
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What were the biased referee decisions? The back pass one looked very suspect, but you very rarely see back passes given nowadays.
On motd highlights I didn't spot any others if I'm honest
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How many teams has harry relegated...
If he takes them down, it will be financial meltdown Portsmouth style
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What were the biased referee decisions? The back pass one looked very suspect, but you very rarely see back passes given nowadays.
On motd highlights I didn't spot any others if I'm honest
What about when there player was fouled on the due of the box, staggered on and very nearly scored. Sure the goal would have stood. But then he gives them a free kick to have another go
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What were the biased referee decisions? The back pass one looked very suspect, but you very rarely see back passes given nowadays.
On motd highlights I didn't spot any others if I'm honest
And you aren't going to get a feel for the game watching 3 minutes of BBC edited highlights
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Dion's sounding balanced and reasonable on MOTD.
Yes. Crap analysis though I thought.
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How many teams has harry relegated...
Harry doesn't just relegate teams. He also leaves them in such a financial mess from his spending splurges it makes MON jealous.
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What were the biased referee decisions? The back pass one looked very suspect, but you very rarely see back passes given nowadays.
On motd highlights I didn't spot any others if I'm honest
MOTD highlights don't show all the refs mistakes just the absolutely unbelievable ones.
He missed booking 2 of their players after giving us the advantage (which wasn't much of an advantage)
How he got 5 mins stoppage time - then played nearly 6 mins extra.
How he kept missing QPR moving free kicks 10 years forward at every opportunity.
Just little things that made it look like he was biased in their favour - hence the Harry's paid the ref songs.
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Just caught the end of Match of the Day to see Jenas picked in their 'team of the day'. I know he scored, but....really? They didn't think Westwood was the better midfielder yesterday?
I think they picked him for avoiding injury in a 90 min game for god knows how long! Other than the goal he was shit as usual.
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Great result we were lucky in the 1st half not to be 3 down and the reff was a feckin joke
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Just caught the end of Match of the Day to see Jenas picked in their 'team of the day'. I know he scored, but....really? They didn't think Westwood was the better midfielder yesterday?
More a case of them not being arsed to actually pay enough attention to notice.
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What were the biased referee decisions? The back pass one looked very suspect, but you very rarely see back passes given nowadays.
On motd highlights I didn't spot any others if I'm honest
His interpretation of an advantage was somewhat lopsided. Them, play on for thirty seconds, maybe have a shot, don't score, no worries, pull it back. Us, loose ball falls to a bloke who's heavily marked, still got the ball ain't ya, immediately dispossessed, tough. Unless we're breaking (Bowery late on), then it gets pulled back.
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The decision that did for me was near the end, with everyone camped on the edge of our box, Benteke broke with the opportunity to make a lot of ground, now Bannan had been booked earlier for a pretty inoccuous shirt pull in a less threatening position but here Hoilett hit Benteke with a late, dangerous, cynical foul and allied to the position it was in, its got to be a red hasn't it? Yellow only.
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Was there any abuse aimed at redknapp today from the Holte or the fans behind the dugouts?
Yes - a couple about his masturbatory habits, plus a couple of "you're supposed to be in jail" and a classic "stand up if you pay your tax". As I said earlier - the atmosphere in the Holte yesterday was the best for years.
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All this stuff about Harry bribing the ref to try and get a QPR win. We really can't know that for sure.
For all we know he may have had a big wedge on with Chinese betting syndicates for Jenas 1st scorer and a Villa win 3-2.
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Can't believe MOTD said we had a huge slice of luck by scoring straight after they hit the post from a free kick. No mention of course that the ref allowed Bosingwa to move the ball at least 5 yards from where the foul took place in order to make it within shooting distance.
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I think in the cold light of day there is nothing wrong with us accepting that we were fucking lucky to go in level at half time, the goal came from pretty much the only attack of note we mustered. Great fight in the second half mind.
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What were the biased referee decisions? The back pass one looked very suspect, but you very rarely see back passes given nowadays.
On motd highlights I didn't spot any others if I'm honest
Look at the position of the free kick they hit the post from. Now rewind it back and look at where the actual foul took place. Now imagine him booking our players for pointing out the discrepancy and moving the wall back 12 yards from the made up position he let Boswinga take it from. That was what was missed on MotD.
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My 9 year old son asked midway through the second half why every single corner of ours was played to the back post where Samba was able to clear? Apart from the fact we were bloody awful in the first half that was my only grumble about yesterday, oh and the fact I had to clean up after Billy was sick in the car.
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I think in the cold light of day there is nothing wrong with us accepting that we were fucking lucky to go in level at half time, the goal came from pretty much the only attack of note we mustered. Great fight in the second half mind.
Out of all the goals, the only lucky one was the deflection for their second. Not deflected meant an easy save. Deflected more and it goes wide of the post. Are we supposed to be lucky that Guzan can make world class saves?
I suppose though we were lucky that the refs incompetence didn't cost us the match so overall, you are probably right.
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My 9 year old son asked midway through the second half why every single corner of ours was played to the back post where Samba was able to clear? Apart from the fact we were bloody awful in the first half that was my only grumble about yesterday, oh and the fact I had to clean up after Billy was sick in the car.
There was the one he missed but Clark didn't anticipate it and it looped into Julio's arms.
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I think in the cold light of day there is nothing wrong with us accepting that we were fucking lucky to go in level at half time, the goal came from pretty much the only attack of note we mustered. Great fight in the second half mind.
That's how QPR have been playing the last few weeks, the 'All or Bust' attitude.
It didn't work, as Guzan was in fantastic form (unlucky with both goals)
We rode our luck in the first half and rode out the storm.
We deserved our win.
We were brilliant :)
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Fantastic and much needed win yesterday. Like a few people have said, if we stay up then it will be largely because of Guzan, he was immense again yesterday. Lambert has rightly took some stick this season but the decision not only to re-sign him but play him has been spot on. As for the others, everyone played their part, although if i'm being overly harsh i thought Gabby gave the ball away a lot in the first half.
The ref was diabolical. The one that did it for me was the free kick in the first half. It was a foul but the player managed to stay on his feet and get a shot on goal, but he still pulled it back and booked our player. The fact that he failed to do the same when the same thing happened to our players said it all.
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It really irritates me how people add up chances and say 'we could have been x goals up'. If one goes in the game plays out differently and the other chances don't happen the same way. If Samba scores the header there is no corner and, therefore, no 2nd save to make. You can't have both goals in your tally of 'what might have happened'.
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The write-up for the game in The Times is making the victory all the sweeter this morning!
'QPR manager Harry Redknapp's irritation was obvious and understandable after his side battled so hard and ended up with nothing. "Their last goal was a s*** goal," he seethed later.'
Ha ha ha!!
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FUCKING YES!
After having my phone nicked in Moscow last night, that's great news. Well done to the lads, showing some real guts now.
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FUCKING YES!
Feel better now after holding that in for 18 hours?
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The write-up for the game in The Times is making the victory all the sweeter this morning!
'QPR manager Harry Redknapp's irritation was obvious and understandable after his side battled so hard and ended up with nothing. "Their last goal was a s*** goal," he seethed later.'
Ha ha ha!!
Would that be the one where our "young and hungry" (there, I've said it!) strikers outmuscled their "don't really give a shit" defenders? Ingracious and disrespectful to the last
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3 massive points,don't care how good or bad we were!!!!!upthe villa!!!!!!!!!!!
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FUCKING YES!
Feel better now after holding that in for 18 hours?
Exactly that. No phone-swiping Muscovite wanker is going to get me down after a result like that.
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A very good second half performance yesterday but to be realistic there are too many games to play for all of the clubs involved in the relegation struggle for anybody to make a judgement on who will go down.
Anybody could go down including us.
The first half apart from Guzan we were poor in the main. Lambert needs to sort out these one half good one half bad performances they happen too often.
Even if we beat Liverpool its still the same we have to acheive a level of consistency for the run in.
And the left back position is still a major problem. Enda Stevens seems to have disappeared. I thought he was our best bet . Others ,of course,will have a different opinion.
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You are right, we're still in it, but its largely in our hands still and god forbid we looked to have turned a corner.
I've always thought we'll be safe even if it goes down to the last game and it could still definitely. We've battled through the last few weeks though and I still think that despite the results against city and arsenal they had enough to take from the 2 performances to give them confidence for reading and qpr.
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What a lovely thought if both Waxyface and MON end up being relegated, shame for Sunderland though
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Our vedict on yesterday's match has been posted. See what you think:
"It’s a suicidal thing for a writer to admit, but I don’t know what to say that will do justice to the events at Villa Park this afternoon. Most football matches have a narrative and some sort of sub-plot. When all the elements surrounding the ninety five minutes of insanity we saw today are scribbled down, Aston Villa’s quest for three precious points becomes Tolkien-esque..."
Read more: http://pickourteam.com/premierleague/aston-villa/fansverdict/16-03-2013/aston-villa-vs-queens-park-rangers#ixzz2NnJVxfDy
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Fantastic and much needed win yesterday. Like a few people have said, if we stay up then it will be largely because of Guzan, he was immense again yesterday. Lambert has rightly took some stick this season but the decision not only to re-sign him but play him has been spot on. As for the others, everyone played their part, although if i'm being overly harsh i thought Gabby gave the ball away a lot in the first half.
The ref was diabolical. The one that did it for me was the free kick in the first half. It was a foul but the player managed to stay on his feet and get a shot on goal, but he still pulled it back and booked our player. The fact that he failed to do the same when the same thing happened to our players said it all.
Good comments clamps, it was a great win even though highly nerve jangling - i can prepare to enter hospital on Tuesday for my operation in a happy mood and this win has lifted my spirits immensely.
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Good Luck for next Tuesday Eastie. Im sure we all hope the operation will be a success.
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Hope all goes well for you Eastie , come back soon
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Thanks for the kind messages folks, much appreciated indeed !
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Good luck for Tuesday Eastie!
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Had a bad start to the day, having to turn round an hour into the journey after my son starting being I'll. Just had time to drive back home and then start the journey again. I almost didn't bother, so glad I did. Met Percy for a quick chat and then into the ground just before kick off. What a game and what a result. All 3 forwards scored, when was the last time that happened? Just got home in time to watch it again on MOTD. On days like yesterday, I just love football. It makes all the crap days worth while. My son is also very pleased with his new Villa shirt!
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Had a bad start to the day, having to turn round an hour into the journey after my son starting being I'll. Just had time to drive back home and then start the journey again. I almost didn't bother, so glad I did. Met Percy for a quick chat and then into the ground just before kick off. What a game and what a result. All 3 forwards scored, when was the last time that happened? Just got home in time to watch it again on MOTD. On days like yesterday, I just love football. It makes all the crap days worth while. My son is also very pleased with his new Villa shirt!
Glad you made it , it really was a great game with lots of excitement and we held on at the end - when hill hit that last second shot i had visions of it going into the top corner and such a relief to see it fly wide and hear the whistle.
It's been an awful season in many ways but lets hope we have turned the corner now - Liverpool are beatable as are stoke in the next 2 games and we can go into them with confidence.
For a young team confidence is a massive thing, it would be nice to keep a couple of clean sheets along the way but its pleasing we are now looking very good going forward.
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Good luck Eastie.
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Whatever it is you are having done eastie, the very best of luck with it. Best wishes.
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Yes, all the best Eastie.
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Good luck eastie.
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Great result we were lucky in the 1st half not to be 3 down and the reff was a feckin joke
Brad Guzan is employed by Aston Villa Football Club to save shots/headers directed at our goal you know!
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I don't get the "lucky" thing, either. "Luck" is a savable shot deflecting off a defender's heel into the net, the referee not spotting a backpass, or not noticing you move a free kick eight yards in from outside the edge of the box. None of these things happened in our favour. Poor finishing, top-drawer goalkeeping, both nothing to do with luck. As the final score of a match so often proves, on the day, we were just better than them where it mattered.
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Great result for us, always good to stick one up Redknapps pipehole but I wanted to say how great the crowd were yesterday. It reminded me a bit of that Chelsea 2-0 game under O'Neill when there was a sea change in the crowd and you felt we were all right behind the team around the ground. Made last nights curry all the sweeter.
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I'm glad we got the three points bit of a gap between us and the bottom three can enjoy my weekend now.
Good luck Eastie.
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I'm so hungover I want to die. All it takes is beating QPR for me to be jumping around singing Benteke songs on Broad Street at 4am.
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My 9 year old son asked midway through the second half why every single corner of ours was played to the back post where Samba was able to clear? Apart from the fact we were bloody awful in the first half that was my only grumble about yesterday, oh and the fact I had to clean up after Billy was sick in the car.
I assume after being sick he was ok?
Tell him about Bannan having super strong leg muscles that cause corners to go that far however they are getting better because yesterday only one of his corners flew over everyone for a throwing!
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I don't get the "lucky" thing, either. "Luck" is a savable shot deflecting off a defender's heel into the net, the referee not spotting a backpass, or not noticing you move a free kick eight yards in from outside the edge of the box. None of these things happened in our favour. Poor finishing, top-drawer goalkeeping, both nothing to do with luck. As the final score of a match so often proves, on the day, we were just better than them where it mattered.
Would agree with that.
It is not very often that you get greater than 1:3 (goals:attempts on target) in a game. However, yesterday was one such game with 5 goals from 13 attempts on target. Not sure whether that was due to two teams at the wrong end of the table giving up 5 goals from weak defending and not creating many chances or not. As others have said, you do not pay a goalkeeper to let in shots. Guzan played well and the first save from Samba was outstanding but I would say it is going a bit far to say the others were world class. Saying that, Guzan was far better than the QPR goalkeeeper and may have been the difference.
To say that they should have gone in 3 or 4 goals to nil is ridiculous as we did in fact score. If Samba's first attempt had gone in, would they then have gone on to score the goal they did. It is all ifs and maybes. If we had scored in the first 15 minutes when we were well on top, the whole game could have changed. If we had put away our chances in the first 15 minutes at Bradford, we could have gone in 3 goals up at halftime and history could have been different. We did not and it hung like a dark cloud over the club for a month.
Harry's comments were either to try and keep confidence up for the players, deflect away from his own performance of not getting QPR any closer to safety from when he took over or just sour grapes. Get over it Harry and retire at the end of the season before it all unravels in the Championship next season and QPR go the way of Portsmouth. Must say, his face was a picture towards the end of the match. I think he and QPR have had their chips and we have helped to piss on them!
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when i was a youngster playing cricket i stopped a certain 4 in the field, at tea our best batsmen at the time came over and said the fielding stop had the same efect as him scoring 4 runs, it made me feel great at the time and ever since i've always thought of fielding in that way
its reminds me of Guzan yesterday, those brilliant saves had the same effect as if Benteke or Wieman had scored, just as important and like the above posters have pointed out no luck involved at all, just brilliant goalkeeping
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
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It really irritates me how people add up chances and say 'we could have been x goals up'. If one goes in the game plays out differently and the other chances don't happen the same way. If Samba scores the header there is no corner and, therefore, no 2nd save to make. You can't have both goals in your tally of 'what might have happened'.
Yes exactly. Play that follows a goal is never the same as the play that follows a chance and consecutive chances in short space of time do not equate to goals. There is reason why goals are NOT scored and hitting woodwork or goal keeper saving is not bad luck.
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Arry might bemoan being unlucky or that his side should have been elventy nil up at half time, or whatever. That's just typical of the man. He's got particular inability to show any grace toward the Villa these days, so even if we'd royally twatted them 3-0 and they'd barely registered a shot, he'd say it was a harsh score line.
Facts and figures count for shit though. The only relevant stat is the one in the top left of the TV/Computerscreen/stadium score screen. Aston Villa 3- QPR 2.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I have to say, I agree with that, after watching it a few more times.
Like you said, there were several opportunities to recover from the mistake, and we didn't take any of them.
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Another thing I got from watching it is that QPR actually played very well.
There's no way that was an easy fixture.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I agree that it was still preventable but it was a poor pass and giving the ball away in that situation often leads to trouble, Bannan even pointed back to where he should play it as he didn't want it where he was.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I have to say, I agree with that, after watching it a few more times.
Like you said, there were several opportunities to recover from the mistake, and we didn't take any of them.
If you are going to play a quick passing game, all players have to be on their toes waiting for a pass. Bannan wasn't and yet he was in the inside pass for Bennett if he could not play through the two forward channels.
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I was saying I'd be overjoyed to go in to the break only one down, to grab that goal out of our only attack strikes me as being more than a trifle fortunate, if you lot don't see that as luck then fair enough, I'm not complaining, we've had enough bad luck this year.
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All the best for Tuesday Eastie. Are you having SSN installed or uninstalled? ;) Whatever; here's hoping you have a quick recovery.
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All the best for Tuesday Eastie. Are you having SSN installed or uninstalled? ;) Whatever; here's hoping you have a quick recovery.
He's having it installed in his right eye socket Steve Austin style
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I'm so hungover I want to die. All it takes is beating QPR for me to be jumping around singing Benteke songs on Broad Street at 4am.
Good man.
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My 9 year old son asked midway through the second half why every single corner of ours was played to the back post where Samba was able to clear? Apart from the fact we were bloody awful in the first half that was my only grumble about yesterday, oh and the fact I had to clean up after Billy was sick in the car.
I assume after being sick he was ok?
He was fine thanks, nothing like seeing your team win and your two favourite players scoring to perk you up! Think it was tiredness, excitement and overheating that did it, maybe that should be a lucky pre match routine!
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All the best for Tuesday Eastie. Are you having SSN installed or uninstalled? ;) Whatever; here's hoping you have a quick recovery.
Knee surgery on torn cartilage sir, rest assured the sky dish is not a problem ;)
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To me yesterday was just a carbon copy of all our relegation 6 pointers at VP bar Wigan where we were horrid from start to finish.
All the others we've just not been in it the first half, think Norwich, Southampton and especially Newcastle and we've come back roaring back in the second half when we've actually realised they're not actually that good.
The difference at the minute is with the front three + N'zogbia we finally have a cutting edge in our team. Look closely and we've actually been scoring a decent number of goals since the new year and we're much more like Norwich were under Lambert.
This is the villa team I expect to see much earlier this season but in the first half of the campaign we just had no creativity or anything going forward.
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Harry Redknapp is an ungracious and crooked bastard. He can fuck off and I really hope QPR go down, they symbolise what is wrong with football.
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@RobbieSavage8: So the relegation battle now is for 1 place in my opinion qpr and reading are going I now think villa will be ok it's Wigan or Sunderland
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What in the mother of FUCK do we give a FUCK about what Savage thinks?
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What in the mother of FUCK do we give a FUCK about what Savage thinks?
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Great English, Bert!
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All the best for Tuesday Eastie. Are you having SSN installed or uninstalled? ;) Whatever; here's hoping you have a quick recovery.
Knee surgery on torn cartilage sir, rest assured the sky dish is not a problem ;)
Ah walk it off you pussy...
I'm having my second knee op in two years in about 3 weeks so feel your pain. Good luck.
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What in the mother of FUCK do we give a FUCK about what Savage thinks?
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Great English, Bert!
I know. I was spluttering that much I fucked it up:
WHY in the mother of FUCK would we give a FUCK about what Savage thinks?
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every time he tips us to stay up, we lose 8-0.
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Provided there is a firesale in QPR in the summer, which of their players should we be interested in? For all the talk of superior individual players I dont think there is that many that would improve us. Samba naturally but we won't be able to afford him. Not sure what clubs will be willing to shell out 12m for him to be honest.
Was watching Fabio as a potential target but his attitude was a disgrace. Onouha surprisingly can't get in ahead of Boswinga but if he was going cheap would be a good option at right back and centre half. Park was outplayed by Westwood and seems another to swerve. Remy certainly is dangerous but with his injury record we couldn't afford to take a punt. Tarrabt played well today but is far too inconsistent. Junior Holiet potentially at the right price would be worth a punt. Townsend looks a decent player but will player a lot more at Spurs next season I imagine.
I really rated Hoillet at Blackburn, no idea why he's disappeared at QPR.
Townsend surprised me by how decent he was yesterday, can see him being a player Lambert may look into trying to get on a season long loan.
None of this Park, Zamora over 30 rubbish. Is it amazing how these players like Park, O'Shea and Wes Brown look incredibly average when they leave Man. United?
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Oh and another bad decision for yesterday....when the shot came in from the edge of the box, Zamora was pretty much coming back from the Holte end and he was still given onside!
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Contender for Save of the Season
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Looks even better from behind Samba.
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Looks even better from behind Samba.
I bet it looked brilliant from where Redknapp was standing!
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Looks even better from behind Samba.
I bet it looked brilliant from where Redknapp was standing!
shame he cant keep his head still
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Lovely bit of play from Bennett for Andi's goal. Stuck another cross on his head too. Worth hanging on to, certainly ain't no full-back, but I reckon he can play a bit. Seem to recall spuds having somebody like two or three years back, dunno what became of him.....
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Looks even better from behind Samba.
I bet it looked brilliant from where Redknapp was standing!
shame he cant keep his head still
I thought he was nodding in appreciation.
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Looks even better from behind Samba.
I bet it looked brilliant from where Redknapp was standing!
shame he cant keep his head still
I thought he was nodding in appreciation.
trific , bung , dog account
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To be fair, it wasn't Friend who was in charge of deciding how many mins are added on. I think it is the 4th official isn't it? But adding an additional 30-40 seconds on top of the 5 minutes just showed what a word removed he is. His awarding of advantages were quite amusing too. Giving us pointless advantages only so he wouldn't have to book their players. Yet always pulling play back when their advantages broke down and booking our players. No harm done in the end, so I'll let it go.
Actually it is the referee who decides, he communicates to the 4th official how many minutes to add on, all he does is stick the board up showing the allocated minutes.
According to Martin Tyler anyway, he says it all too often.
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@RobbieSavage8: So the relegation battle now is for 1 place in my opinion qpr and reading are going I now think villa will be ok it's Wigan or Sunderland
C***! I wish he would stop his roller coaster opinions about us and fuck off from the face of this earth.
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trific , bung , dog account
Can we go back in time and get a banner made of this for yesterday's game, please?
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I didnt notice Bannans position at the match but on tele it showed (as Peter has said) he could have had reached the ball if his reactions had been quicker. I didnt blame Bennet at the time and I dont now. He had only just come on.
I do blame him ,however, for wearing poncey gloves. Must be a fashion statement . I wasnt wearing any and didnt think it was particually cold. What is it with players these days. I dont think he had them on for the second half though.
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We all know how the atmosphere *can* be at Villa Park when things aren't going well. But when it really, really matters Villa supporters always step up.
I am very proud of everyone who made it there today. Some posters on here travelled long distances and made real sacrifices, and I believe the crowd made the difference.
Those were our three points.
I love this post so much that I am going too divorce the wife and marry it.
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Lovely bit of play from Bennett for Andi's goal. Stuck another cross on his head too. Worth hanging on to, certainly ain't no full-back, but I reckon he can play a bit. Seem to recall spuds having somebody like two or three years back, dunno what became of him.....
Bennett continuing his run drew two defenders to anticipate the return ball and gave Andi just enough room to turn and shoot
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All the best for Tuesday Eastie. Are you having SSN installed or uninstalled? ;) Whatever; here's hoping you have a quick recovery.
Knee surgery on torn cartilage sir, rest assured the sky dish is not a problem ;)
Ah walk it off you pussy...
I'm having my second knee op in two years in about 3 weeks so feel your pain. Good luck.
I didn't know you have a bad knee eastie,you haven't mentioned it at all.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I didnt notice Bannans position at the match but on tele it showed (as Peter has said) he could have had reached the ball if his reactions had been quicker. I didnt blame Bennet at the time and I dont now. He had only just come on.
First it was a lazy/not concentrating pass, then Bannan hesitated, maybe he thought it was meant for Westwood, who also hesitated, and Jenas burst through the gap. So all are culpable but it was still Bennett's poor pass which has to take most of the blame for me.
That said it showed up the problem with having Bannan and Westwood on their own in the middle of the park (I know Sylla was on the pitch at the time).
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Knee surgery on torn cartilage sir, rest assured the sky dish is not a problem ;)
Obviously a athlete's injury!!
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Harry Redknapp is an ungracious and crooked bastard. He can fuck off and I really hope QPR go down, they symbolise what is wrong with football.
*applause*
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Harry Redknapp is an ungracious and crooked bastard. He can fuck off and I really hope QPR go down, they symbolise what is wrong with football.
*applause*
What I liked was the complete contrast between his pre-game comments - a considered 'Villa are a big club and have a good team' line - to the complete loss of decorum in what he said afterwards.
Not that he knows the game is up or anything.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I didnt notice Bannans position at the match but on tele it showed (as Peter has said) he could have had reached the ball if his reactions had been quicker. I didnt blame Bennet at the time and I dont now. He had only just come on.
First it was a lazy/not concentrating pass, then Bannan hesitated, maybe he thought it was meant for Westwood, who also hesitated, and Jenas burst through the gap. So all are culpable but it was still Bennett's poor pass which has to take most of the blame for me.
That said it showed up the problem with having Bannan and Westwood on their own in the middle of the park (I know Sylla was on the pitch at the time).
Sorry, dont agree. It was a poor pass and the fact that Bannan and Westwood were in the middle had sod all to do with it
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It was a poor pass but he ran back and got in a challenge on Jenas as he scored. It could easily have saved the goal.
If Liam Ridgewell had made that mistake in a Villa shirt he would never have managed that much.
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It was a poor pass but he ran back and got in a challenge on Jenas as he scored. It could easily have saved the goal.
If Liam Ridgewell had made that mistake in a Villa shirt he would never have managed that much.
Agreed and he actually played well after it. I think there's potentially a good player in Bennett and he is improving.
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Harry Redknapp is an ungracious and crooked bastard. He can fuck off and I really hope QPR go down, they symbolise what is wrong with football.
*applause*
What I liked was the complete contrast between his pre-game comments - a considered 'Villa are a big club and have a good team' line - to the complete loss of decorum in what he said afterwards.
Not that he knows the game is up or anything.
Yes, I too noted that with interest, the twat.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I didnt notice Bannans position at the match but on tele it showed (as Peter has said) he could have had reached the ball if his reactions had been quicker. I didnt blame Bennet at the time and I dont now. He had only just come on.
First it was a lazy/not concentrating pass, then Bannan hesitated, maybe he thought it was meant for Westwood, who also hesitated, and Jenas burst through the gap. So all are culpable but it was still Bennett's poor pass which has to take most of the blame for me.
That said it showed up the problem with having Bannan and Westwood on their own in the middle of the park (I know Sylla was on the pitch at the time).
Sorry, dont agree. It was a poor pass and the fact that Bannan and Westwood were in the middle had sod all to do with it
So you think if a decent defensive midfielder was in there, say Sandro, it wouldn't have made a difference? I agree it was a poor pass and it was Bennett's fault but there was no urgency to win the ball straight back (and for me Westwood should have read the danger earlier).
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Harry Redknapp is an ungracious and crooked bastard. He can fuck off and I really hope QPR go down, they symbolise what is wrong with football.
*applause*
What I liked was the complete contrast between his pre-game comments - a considered 'Villa are a big club and have a good team' line - to the complete loss of decorum in what he said afterwards.
Not that he knows the game is up or anything.
Yes, I too noted that with interest, the twat.
I agree with these sentiments to a certain extent, but on the other hand every time he comes to VP with one of his many teams, we have a good open game with plenty of entertainment.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I didnt notice Bannans position at the match but on tele it showed (as Peter has said) he could have had reached the ball if his reactions had been quicker. I didnt blame Bennet at the time and I dont now. He had only just come on.
First it was a lazy/not concentrating pass, then Bannan hesitated, maybe he thought it was meant for Westwood, who also hesitated, and Jenas burst through the gap. So all are culpable but it was still Bennett's poor pass which has to take most of the blame for me.
That said it showed up the problem with having Bannan and Westwood on their own in the middle of the park (I know Sylla was on the pitch at the time).
Sorry, dont agree. It was a poor pass and the fact that Bannan and Westwood were in the middle had sod all to do with it
So you think if a decent defensive midfielder was in there, say Sandro, it wouldn't have made a difference? I agree it was a poor pass and it was Bennett's fault but there was no urgency to win the ball straight back (and for me Westwood should have read the danger earlier).
I actually thought first half the centre 3 were too spread apart Sean, and it contributed to the goal. Sylla and Bannan tucked in more second and allowed Bennett and Lowton to get on a bit further, and then Charlie came on and Bannan sat more.
But I agree in essence, there should have been a covering midfielder in the centre of the pitch to cut out the run of Jenas, but maybe a bit of experience in spotting that is what was missing.
Doesn't excuse the pass from Bennett though, who I still think when I see him will make a cracking footballer.
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I didnt notice Bannans position at the match but on tele it showed (as Peter has said) he could have had reached the ball if his reactions had been quicker. I didnt blame Bennet at the time and I dont now. He had only just come on.
First it was a lazy/not concentrating pass, then Bannan hesitated, maybe he thought it was meant for Westwood, who also hesitated, and Jenas burst through the gap. So all are culpable but it was still Bennett's poor pass which has to take most of the blame for me.
That said it showed up the problem with having Bannan and Westwood on their own in the middle of the park (I know Sylla was on the pitch at the time).
Sorry, dont agree. It was a poor pass and the fact that Bannan and Westwood were in the middle had sod all to do with it
So you think if a decent defensive midfielder was in there, say Sandro, it wouldn't have made a difference? I agree it was a poor pass and it was Bennett's fault but there was no urgency to win the ball straight back (and for me Westwood should have read the danger earlier).
It was a poor pass and yes it was Bennetts fault, as for Westwood being a mind reader, that is surely asking a bit much. Good for Bennett that he came back from it
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3 or 4 players carrying this team week in week out....Guzan,Weimann,Benteke and Gabby(when he's up for it).
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It was a poor pass but he ran back and got in a challenge on Jenas as he scored. It could easily have saved the goal.
If Liam Ridgewell had made that mistake in a Villa shirt he would never have managed that much.
Agreed and he actually played well after it. I think there's potentially a good player in Bennett and he is improving.
I thought he had a decent 2nd half as well Paul, though I do think he got caught out of position a couple of times. Still think he may end up as a wide midfielder as opposed to a full-back.
On another note, I thought Andros Townsend looked very lively yesterday. He looked like the kind of wide player we could do with.
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3 or 4 players carrying this team week in week out....Guzan,Weimann,Benteke and Gabby(when he's up for it).
I think you will find that most teams are carried by 3/4 players week in week out only Spurs are a one man team!
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Everything crossed for more Benteke winners this season!
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I have just watched the first game on MOTD for a third time ....i'm somewhat pissed as i have been since 17:55 yesterday afternoon...i am knocking on 60 now and have been going down to God's little piece of land since early 60's but yesterday gave me my belief again...i have written on here about how i walked out at half time against Newcastle utterly depressed vowing never to step inside Villa Park if we ended up in the Championship....well yesterday renewed all my faith in everything Claret & Blue. The game itself had everything...i loved Brad Guzan keeping us in the Premiership with the finest display for 20 or so minutes that i have ever witnessed for a keeper...his performance restored all my faith and although we went behind , and yes it was Bennet's fault for that first goal we never wilted and Lowton and Gabby's equaliser had me purring...nay praying for better things to come. Then that young Austrian lad had me jumping out my seat....me in the Upper Witton singing my heart out...his performance in the 2nd half was amazing...he lifted the whole ground his performance had everything....amazing, beautiful...just awe inspiring. The atmosphere in the ground was the best in what seems for ever....i have my faith back....i love you all and well what else can i say....i was gonna redecorate the living room of my house...light blue walls and claret carpet was going i was so disallusioned...but fuck it ...it's staying as it is.....
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I think its harsh on Bennett to claim his misplaced pass caused the first goal. For a start it was on half way. Then Bannan or Westwood could have gone towards the ball. Bannan was closest but was too slow to react. Even then there was a lot to do for it to end up in the goal. After the shot Vlaar stopped running allowing Jenas to run past him and score. Bennett's pass shouldn't have ended up in the back of our net and the pass wasn't as bad as is being made out.
I agree that it was still preventable but it was a poor pass and giving the ball away in that situation often leads to trouble, Bannan even pointed back to where he should play it as he didn't want it where he was.
And what was worse is that Bennett tracked all the way back at pace to try and make up for the mistake but then failed to react to the rebound - double whammy.
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Vlaar definitely gave up the chase, I'm not sure whether Bennett just hesitated at the last or was just outpaced when Guzan pushed the ball out.
He was actually ahead of Jenas for most of the chase back. If he'd been cuter/more experienced he would have edged across Jenas' line and made him run the long way round. Easy clearance.
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It was a poor pass but he ran back and got in a challenge on Jenas as he scored. It could easily have saved the goal.
If Liam Ridgewell had made that mistake in a Villa shirt he would never have managed that much.
Agreed and he actually played well after it. I think there's potentially a good player in Bennett and he is improving.
I thought, other than the assist, he was diabolical. Totally out of his depth, running around like a headless chicken. The only plus point was that he did not have enough of the ball to cause any more damage.
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massive win and the first time i've walked away euphoric from villa park for ages. great atmosphere in the holte. even when qpr equalised, the fans got behind the team. made a hell of a difference.
hope it is like that for the last 4 home games.
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It was a poor pass but he ran back and got in a challenge on Jenas as he scored. It could easily have saved the goal.
If Liam Ridgewell had made that mistake in a Villa shirt he would never have managed that much.
Agreed and he actually played well after it. I think there's potentially a good player in Bennett and he is improving.
I thought, other than the assist, he was diabolical. Totally out of his depth, running around like a headless chicken. The only plus point was that he did not have enough of the ball to cause any more damage.
You're having a laugh, aren't you?
I'll give you the fact that he didn't have a great 1st half.
He had a great 2nd half, though. Yes he set up Weimann for the 2nd goal. It was actually a great bit of skill if you watch it again. You missed his excellent cross to Weimann at the far post, and you also must have missed the 5 or 6 excellent tackles he made in the 2nd half, too.
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Fair play to every one that went. I've just watched the game again and I'm still shitting it going into the last 5 minutes.
Just imagine how good that attacking unit could be if it had a solid defence behind it.