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Off Topic => Sports Arena => Topic started by: cdbearsfan on February 16, 2011, 10:46:38 PM
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Deserves it's own thread.
Who do you reckon?
Obviously not England. India and Sri Lanka must be fancied on homesoil while South Africa will bottle it as always.
I have a horrible feeling the bloody Aussies will win it again for the 97th successive time.
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Deserves it's own thread.
Does it?
Edit: Apologies, one too many this evening and this appealed to my own humour if no-one elses!
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Yes, it's the World Cup.
That's the Cup... for the whole World! Except Scotland, unfortunately.
We can use the Cricket 2011 thread for other series/tournaments and county cricket.
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Still fuming at the amount of ODI's/ 20/20's at the back-end of the Ashes campaign.
I'm sure the players won't admit it publicly, but that's effectively done for England's chances in this one. No Morgan, Swann carrying an injury and a fair few players fatigued too. Really shit, counterproductive planning, whoever came up with that schedule.
Think Bangladesh may cause a surprise or two along the way, Pakistan may be darkhorses too. But can't look past India for this one.
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I think SA will finally step up and win it.
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Pakistan could be very dangerous in this form of the game and in these type of conditions.
They have a lot of raw talent in batsmen like Younis Khan and Shahid Afridi.
Bowling looks pretty good too, with Gul and Akhtar.
Agree totally with KG about Englands chances. Royally fucked up scheduling when we have players more than good enough to challenge.
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As just said pakistan will have a great chance. Umar Gul is a very underrated performer. Ontheir day they will beat anyone.
West indies also may surprise a few but will not get past an Australia or South Africa. I don't fancy India. So, I'll go with South Africa to win in a semi-finals comprising of them, Pakistan, Australia, Sri Lanka.
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World Cups are generally scheduled to take place at this time of year, unless we are the host nation when they happen in our spring. As a result they often tend to happen right at the end of an Ashes campaign.
When we've been hammered down under we arrive at the tournament battered, bruised and mentally shot. After a victorious Ashes campaign we arrive at the tournament battered, bruised and mentally shot. C'mon guys you can't have it both ways!
The tournament itself is far too long and seems to be designed to keep the sponsors happy with India in the competition to the death.
I think that India, Sri Lanka, South Africa and Pakistan will contest the semis and by that stage we will have all become bored and gone home.
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I think the betting scandal will have taken its toll on Pakistan so will be surprised if they stay the course. South Africa should win it but I don't think they will. Home advanatge will help India and Australia will be dangerous. England have the players to give it a go and if Flower gets them focussed again who know although I wouldn't put money in it.
Which is all a long winded way of saying I haven't a clue who will win.
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Eoin Morgan is a big loss for England, potentially one which has cost them any slim chance they had, and if Swanny's back isn't fully fixed we've got no chance.
India for me I reckon, just the home soil thing I suppose.
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It will be interesting to see how KP does opening. I agree Morgan is a massive loss, but I'd be very tempted to play Bopara, he's a potential game changer.
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Morgan wuld be a massive loss had he shown any foirm in Australia. As it is I'm not so sure.
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World Cups are generally scheduled to take place at this time of year, unless we are the host nation when they happen in our spring. As a result they often tend to happen right at the end of an Ashes campaign.
When we've been hammered down under we arrive at the tournament battered, bruised and mentally shot. After a victorious Ashes campaign we arrive at the tournament battered, bruised and mentally shot. C'mon guys you can't have it both ways!
The tournament itself is far too long and seems to be designed to keep the sponsors happy with India in the competition to the death.
I think that India, Sri Lanka, South Africa and Pakistan will contest the semis and by that stage we will have all become bored and gone home.
Nine Limited Overs (seven ODI's and two shits and giggles 20/20 knockabouts) tacked on at the end of an Ashes campaign is a bit much, don't you think?
England might have won the real thing convincingly, but fatigue (both physically and mentally) will inevitably set in with that workload. The players have been away from home since the end of October, surely a few weeks back to recharge and go again would have been more beneficial. As it is, they had four/five days home and then back on a plane again. OK it might be doing something they love, (and something most of us would do given half a chance) but that doesn't mean such a schedule won't impair performance and playing standards. Which is ultimately what it all comes down to.
England versus Australia should also be a bit special, and part of that comes from the rarity of playing each other, leaving sufficient gaps in between the series and avoiding overkill when it comes to ODIs. By the end of it I was bored/ tired with it all, nevermind the players. Five ODI's and one 20/20 knockabout max should have been enough.
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Or if its workload, 3 20/20s and 3 or 5 one-dayers.
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It will be an interesting barometer about both teams - England and Pakistan - ahead of the World Cup today. Currently 140-4 with Piterson and Bell out poorly. We haven't played spin at all well in Australia and here. Its not as if its sharp turn either. Great chance for Collingwood to get a bit of form back and for Bopara to dust down the cobwebs.
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Pietersen did well as an opener though, better than Strauss who seems woefully short of form all of a sudden.
If Prior can bash a few we should get a decent total.
Swanny not playing again though I see, not good, we need him.
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273 all out. Again not using up the 50 overs and again a collapse when we need runs at the detah. good to see Collingwood get some runs. We may win this game but we can't afford to collapse if we want to beat teams consistently.
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The tail didn't wag much did it!
Still, tail-end runs are a bonus and Broad and Bresnan will usually get a few, we need someone further up to stick around for the full fifty.
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Sounds a bit more encouraging, but we do need to bat the 50 overs.
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Good to see Colly and KP get some runs, they needed them.
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Pak 169-6. great spell of 6-1-12-3 from Broad. Good from Bresnan also. Good to see Colly also in the wickets. This will be a good win - but I still worry about the frailty of the batting line-up. The bowling in all forms has been top notch for a year or so now, whilst the batting is very hit and miss.
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206 ao. Five for Broad - 8-1-25-1. Better than the Canadian performance and a good win.
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Pietersen did well as an opener though, better than Strauss who seems woefully short of form all of a sudden.
If Prior can bash a few we should get a decent total.
Swanny not playing again though I see, not good, we need him.
I would have thought that Swann has only just arrived in India. He was in court as recently as Tuesday of this week.
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Agree with everyone about the Ashes ODI schedule- madness. Blame Channel Nine (Aussie host broadcaster) for wanting this schedule and Cricket Australia and the ECB agreeing to it for a few extra $$.
England no chance, so it'll be between India, South Africa, Sri Lanka and Australia.
I'll go for India based on their batting and the hosts factor.
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I'd forgotten all about this. They really don't play enough one day cricket these days.
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Pietersen did well as an opener though, better than Strauss who seems woefully short of form all of a sudden.
If Prior can bash a few we should get a decent total.
Swanny not playing again though I see, not good, we need him.
I would have thought that Swann has only just arrived in India. He was in court as recently as Tuesday of this week.
Oh yes, his drink driving charge wasn't it.
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Pietersen did well as an opener though, better than Strauss who seems woefully short of form all of a sudden.
If Prior can bash a few we should get a decent total.
Swanny not playing again though I see, not good, we need him.
I would have thought that Swann has only just arrived in India. He was in court as recently as Tuesday of this week.
Oh yes, his drink driving charge wasn't it.
And his wife had a baby on Thurs.......I dont think he is flying out until today/tomorrow
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Pietersen did well as an opener though, better than Strauss who seems woefully short of form all of a sudden.
If Prior can bash a few we should get a decent total.
Swanny not playing again though I see, not good, we need him.
I would have thought that Swann has only just arrived in India. He was in court as recently as Tuesday of this week.
Oh yes, his drink driving charge wasn't it.
And his wife had a baby on Thurs.......I dont think he is flying out until today/tomorrow
He got off the charge on a technicality surrounding the blood test.
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Complete no contest between India and Bangladesh to start it looks like.
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Complete no contest between India and Bangladesh to start it looks like.
I think thats going to be pretty indicative of the first four weeks of the tournament. Its going to take that long (barring a huge upset or two) to get rid of the likes of Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, Kenya, Canada etc. Only then will the meaningful cricket take place.
On the game today, India look incredibly powerful batting wise. Getting to 370 without Dhoni and Yuhraj Singh having to bat sends a bit of a message to everyone else.
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Bangladesh's batting has been fine. If they can knock this sort of score together consistently they will turn over one of the bigger teams. They just let India, probably the finest batting side on the planet, get away from them by getting too big a score.
I reckon Kenya might turn New Zealand over tomorrow.
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Bangladesh's batting has been fine. If they can knock this sort of score together consistently they will turn over one of the bigger teams. They just let India, probably the finest batting side on the planet, get away from them by getting too big a score.
Agreed. One decent pace bowler and they'd actually be an OK side, probably on a par (or just below) NZ.
In these conditions I'd still fancy them to have at least one good day at the office, one match where the batting delivers and their spinners come to the party.
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The tournament itself is far too long and seems to be designed to keep the sponsors happy with India in the competition to the death.
I think that India, Sri Lanka, South Africa and Pakistan will contest the semis and by that stage we will have all become bored and gone home.
I concur both these comments.
It is long however the sponsors, TV channels and punters on the sub-continent have out their cash up and want it badly. All tickets have been sold. As for TV channels and sponsors it's all about India and Pakistan staying in it for as long as possible and meeting each other in the semi or final. Everyone else is a sideshow.
On winning it I think it's India's to lose and when they do Sri Lanka will nip in!
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The length is ridiculous. Some teams have to wait eight days between games. There are only 14 days on which there is more than one game. Ludicrous.
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India will win it for me as they are at home, you can never count the aussies out and England will get close but struggle with injuries, should make for good watching though.
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I reckon Kenya might turn New Zealand over tomorrow.
Opps...........
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I reckon Kenya might turn New Zealand over tomorrow.
Oohhhh!! Close!
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Yes not much of a contest that. Sri Lanka vs Canada is quite interesting at the moment.
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I'm watching this with the sound down - are they really having reviews without snicko or hotspot? No 3rd umpire on Earth is going to reverse a caught behind decision without that technology.
I'm struggling to summon up much interest in these one-sided preliminaries (except for a bit of a sinking feeling about Holland!)
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So, after my uncanny prediction on the Kenya game, next week's lottery numbers are... 12, 18, 25, 36, 40, 44.
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I think England will make heavy weather of Holland - it's the wait more than anything. Watching most of their rivals (Australia and New Zealand in particular) roll their first matches over easily sets the scene for a tight and tense match.
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I think that in Ireland, Holland and Bangladesh we have the three toughest 'weaker' teams.
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Bit shit so far, innit? Why can't they have two games a day... this won't be finished in time for the 2013 Ashes at this rate.
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A whole month to work out that some shit teams are shit. Great.
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We've been very poor in the field today. The mix up between Jimmy and KP for a skied catch was farcical. Reviewing an LBW decision when clearly the batsman had hit it and was outside of the line anyway was utter madness.
Jimmy seems to have forgotten the rules; thankfully the umpires did too. As I understand it he should have been taken out of the attack under the bouncers per over rule.
The batsmen will have to earn their corn otherwise we risk another humiliation at the hands of the Dutch.
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blimey the Dutch nearing 300
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If this was Pakistan playing this badly everyone would be asking is it fixed? Truly dreadful bowling, fielding, positioning and use of reviews!
Let's hope a couple of the batsmen are at least awake
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Jesus, we're going to lose to the Netherlands, AGAIN!!
A lot of pressure on our batsmen.
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early wickets in the power play and it will be another defeat for England v the Dutch
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Sounds like we were diabolical in the field and bowling, unacceptable.
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Just looked a very tired performance in the field, almost as if they didn't want to be there.
They need to sort that out, better teams than the Dutch will absolutely annihilate them.
Batting looks a bit better though. Helped by the Dutch bowling some absolute dross.
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We could do with KP scoring a few and getting some confidence about opening.
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BBC Test Match Special's Simon Mann "England have been like a club third XI on a Sunday afternoon. Some of the spectators are laughing - goodness knows what India are making of this."
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England looking good at the moment to get a win. 147-1 with 138 balls to go (target 146 runs). Should be an exciting end to the match.
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A tired and disinterested England team? Seen that somewhere before in a world cup!
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Sir Geoffrey's been pretty entertaining. A nice long ran about how the one-day game favours the batsman too much.
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Nothing to worry about in the end...
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Good batting, bad fielding from both sides. Fortunately England were slightly better with the bat than Holland. However they will need to improve in the field alot to get anywhere in this compitition.
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I shall have a nose at the highlights later then.
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Well done in the end from the batsmen, but the fielding and bowling needs a massive massive improvement.
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Well done in the end from the batsmen, but the fielding and bowling needs a massive massive improvement.
Here Here!
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Just watched the highlights of our fielding display, oh dear.
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Our fielding was impressively shite. Strauss didn't pull any punches in his interview mind.
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I'm expecting a massive improvement on Sunday.
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West Indies vs South Africa shaping up well, SA 20-2 chasing 223 to win.
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Problem is, England have a bound to be used get out card (excuse) for a poor world cup.
'The Aussie tour took a lot out of us, we're knackered.'
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Ireland in with a great chance to beat Bangladesh here. 62 for 2 needing another 140 or so.
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Now 45 runs required from 11 overs, 6 wickets down
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Silly batting display from Ireland, why don't teams take the power play earlier. When O'Brien & Botha were going strong a power play could've took the game away from Bangladesh. As it was they lost wickets & ultimately the game.
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Agreed Mr Aspinall.
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Glad Bangladesh won. It means a lot more to the Bangladeshi public than to those in Ireland, and don't want to see them embarassed when they are co-hosts.
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Hosts under pressure! Sri Lanka failed their first big test by losing to Pakistan. Wander how India will fare against England?
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Are Sri Lanka hosts? Tough game for England tomorrow, we need to massively step up our game.
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Yes, it's a sub-continent tournament, India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka are hosting. No Pakistan for obvious reasons.
Close one tomorrow, I can't call it.
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I can call it. India win.
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Today's game here. http://www.veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4d67298324c45
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Tough chance dropped Sehwag first ball.
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3rd ball in the air misses the fielder
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5th ball loops over Anderson's head. Not much luck at the moment.
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Get in, Sehwag gone!
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They have bloody lucky so far.
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Yeah not bowled too badly so far. Could easily have had 2 or 3 wickets.
Pitch looks a bit of a belter in fairness (until we bat and it seams all over the place). Gonna be a struggle to restrict India to under 320.
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We've bowled quite well, I agree. Pitch is an absolute belter to bat on, so we are going to have to perform. KP needs big runs.
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Sachin's moving up a gear.
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Come on Shahzad rip these Indians apart!
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Wide first ball is not a good start
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Decent over, need to back it up now.
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I think the key here today is to put in a good performance, even more than the result. We can recover from a defeat, provided we play well.
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Tendulkar is murdering Swann.
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I think the key here today is to put in a good performance, even more than the result. We can recover from a defeat, provided we play well.
Agreed Paul. This is early days and England need to gain as much learning from this game as possible.
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We are going to get a right mullering here, we'll be chasing 350 at least, and we won't get them.
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I think we need to look at dropping Anderson, he was been smashed around the park in both games now.
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We need wickets badly.
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Swann bowled Gambir, good comeback.
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Well in Swanny.
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Ghambir gone and the silence of this capacity crowd is amazing to hera or not as the case may be.
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Really poor from Anderson.
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Tendulkar is a remarkable player.
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100 for Tendulkar.
He's an amazing player.
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Sachin well done you are truely untouchable
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Tendulkar. superb. well deserved century.
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380 total me thinks.
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Power play, this could be fun.
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Tendulkar gone.
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Tendulkar gone for 120. might be job done.
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It was a sublime innings from Tendulkar
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We will not have enough batting today, unless KP has a screamer.
I can't believe they have dropped Bopara, he will get us over the finish line more times than not with a quick 30 at the end of an innings.
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That Tendulkar's alright but he's no Westwood.
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This chase could be a struggle.
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Those wickets have helped but too little, too late I recon.
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On the positive side there is an opportunity to get some batting pratice! I mean India all out 120 would not been ideal from that point of view...
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Swann has been very poor in the field.
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3 wickets in 4 balls for Bresnan, very well bowled.
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Great performance by Bresnan
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Howeverv these are cheap wickets. England bowlers need to inflict damage early on big teams if they are going to make progress to semi's or final.
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Anderson's bowling figures next to the others are an embarrassment. He has to shape up, we can't carry our senior bowler.
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What the fucking hell was that?
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Pieterson needs a screamer and so does, Strauss, Trott, Bell and Collingwood.
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Anderson should be dropped for the next match, that bowling performance was an utter shambles. He's given away nearly 100 of their runs.
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Anderson's bowling figures next to the others are an embarrassment. He has to shape up, we can't carry our senior bowler.
If the ball doesn't swing he is average.
We won the T20 because we were ruthless in team selection, we haven't been in the one day side.
We should not have Strauss and Trott in the top order.
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Anderson's bowling figures next to the others are an embarrassment. He has to shape up, we can't carry our senior bowler.
If the ball doesn't swing he is average.
We won the T20 because we were ruthless in team selection, we haven't been in the one day side.
We should not have Strauss and Trott in the top order.
That's a bit harsh on Trott, he's been churning out the runs in ODI's.
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Trott needs to up the run rate. So does Bell. great players yes. Great run rate Hmm..
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Anderson's bowling figures next to the others are an embarrassment. He has to shape up, we can't carry our senior bowler.
If the ball doesn't swing he is average.
We won the T20 because we were ruthless in team selection, we haven't been in the one day side.
We should not have Strauss and Trott in the top order.
Is that the Trott who averages about 60 in one day cricket? The Trott who just got 2 ODI centurys against Australia?
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Trott needs to up the run rate. So does Bell. great players yes. Great run rate Hmm..
Trott got 130 odd in about 110 balls very recently against Australia.
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Again on the positive side India were bowled out a ball to spare!
If England do knock this total over it will shatter Indian confidence for the rest of WC. So a lot to play for on this carpet laid on top of a marble floor pitch!
and I really should not have too many beans with my breakfast.
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Trott and Bell are both capable of hitting out when they get their eye in. If it's left to Collingwood with more than 100 left to win though, we're fucked.
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Trott needs to up the run rate. So does Bell. great players yes. Great run rate Hmm..
Trott got 130 odd in about 110 balls very recently against Australia.
you mean this game.
http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9372193.stm
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Trott needs to up the run rate. So does Bell. great players yes. Great run rate Hmm..
Trott got 130 odd in about 110 balls very recently against Australia.
you mean this game.
http://newsrss.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9372193.stm
I think its a game later than that. England got 330 and lost.
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Right come on KP. Its about bloody time you got a big'un
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Good start.
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The commentator just said:
"If there's one weakness in this India team it's the bowling...and the fielding."
Erm, so that means they are only good at batting then?
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Stauss going well.
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The commentator just said:
"If there's one weakness in this India team it's the bowling...and the fielding."
Erm, so that means they are only good at batting then?
Yep.
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Anderson's bowling figures next to the others are an embarrassment. He has to shape up, we can't carry our senior bowler.
If the ball doesn't swing he is average.
We won the T20 because we were ruthless in team selection, we haven't been in the one day side.
We should not have Strauss and Trott in the top order.
Is that the Trott who averages about 60 in one day cricket? The Trott who just got 2 ODI centurys against Australia?
Yes that Trott who needs to up his run rate/strike rate, he puts to much pressure on the other batsman because he is so slow.
And if you read my post I said we shouldn't have Strauss AND Trott in the top order.
Sachin has just played a blinder he was down at about 50% SR yet finished at over 100 SR, our batsman rarely claw it back like that.
We need specialist one day players not test players trying to adapt.
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Well 340 is a massive ask but it will be fun watching us try to knock them off. We need a serious KP knock to stand any chance mind.
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KP is on the move.
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49 runs off 7 overs. good start.
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A ton from KP here and we have a chance, I was going to the pub but I think I'll open a bottle and watch this for a while instead.
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KP is really firing now.
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KP is looking good, Strauss just needs to keep the run rate up and we have a chance.
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Can't believe KP is gone like that.
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Unlucky KP.
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Spoke to soon, that was very unlucky, but we are fucked now, these pair won't keep the RR up, I hope I'm wrong.
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That was extremely unlucky, but I'm confident that KP will be good as opener for us in this tournament.
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Bugger. Trotty needs to keep the momentum up.
By the way, a strike rate of 78 in ODI's is very good, Trott can score quickly.
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We are doing very well at keeping the run rate going here. It's like I said earlier I think the performance is more important than the result today. If we lose we have enough time to recover in the tournament, but we need to get into form.
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Spinners are tying us down here.
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KP's dismissal was like something out of one of those Magners cricket team commercials.
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Very good start this, very encouraging.
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Spinners are tying us down here.
Its gonna decide the game how we play the spinners.........we need to get @ least 4/5 off each of the spinners overs
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Spinners are tying us down here.
Not really, still going at a run a ball.
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Trott gone.
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Strauss is vital here now.
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
Belly is back
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
Has he?
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I'm not sure how Bell survived that, but good stuff.
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
....I'm blaming Cricinfo, they said he was given following the review. I'll try the same tactic for any future reviews!
Has he?
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I have no idea how it wasn't given out, that was bizarre.
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
....I'm blaming Cricinfo, they said he was given following the review. I'll try the same tactic for any future reviews!
Has he?
The review showed the ball pitching outside the line of the stumps so he cant be out, but for some reason he was walking back to the pavillion
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Brilliant brilliant 100 by Strauss
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
....I'm blaming Cricinfo, they said he was given following the review. I'll try the same tactic for any future reviews!
Has he?
The review showed the ball pitching outside the line of the stumps so he cant be out, but for some reason he was walking back to the pavillion
It can pitch outside the line, that's fine. It's just it's got to hit in line.
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Top stuff from Strauss. It's still a daunting total but we're giving it a good go.
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Well done Strauss, a 100 at a run a ball is perfect.
We just have to make sure we don't lose any wickets and we should win this.
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Strauss is vital here now.
...and even more so with Bell now gone
....I'm blaming Cricinfo, they said he was given following the review. I'll try the same tactic for any future reviews!
Has he?
The review showed the ball pitching outside the line of the stumps so he cant be out, but for some reason he was walking back to the pavillion
It pitched inside, he was given not out because the impact was more than 2.5metres from the stumps.
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We might just do this!
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Whatever happens here, I'm massively encouraged by how we've gone about this.
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We are giving this a bloody good go. Bollocks to watching Arsenal beat those wankers.
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This is a really enthralling game, about time this World Cup got going.
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We are giving this a bloody good go. Bollocks to watching Arsenal beat those wankers.
Is the correct answer.
I might glance at the score now and again but I'm sticking with the cricket.
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Massive 6 from Strauss.
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Batting power play now ???
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This is excellent by England whatever the result. 218-2 at the moment
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what a shot by Bell!
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one from bell too
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Bell joins the six party, marvellous.
This is fantastic.
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Come on England this is great to see.
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Good from the sponsors to give 25000 (dollars? Pounds Sterling?) for every 6 hit, to charity. (unless it is rupees).
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Very entertaining stuff.
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We are giving this a bloody good go. Bollocks to watching Arsenal beat those wankers.
Is the correct answer.
I might glance at the score now and again but I'm sticking with the cricket.
Thirded. And if we do it, after Villa, & England Rugby doing the business , Arsenal will just be sprinkling a little icing on an excellent weekend cake.
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This is an incredible performance.
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I shall ignore Anderson bowling like a chunt. Win, lose or draw, this is an immense display with the bat by England.
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Fantastic knock by Strauss - 150 not out; both batsmen are looking so relaxed.
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Fantastic so far no other way to describe it...a bit early to be peaking though!
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I'm at the parents now with no Sky.
Is it looking a tense finish or should we walk it?
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Should walk it, but Bell's now out, although he was struggling with cramp.
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Bell out, should do it though if we keep our heads.
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Bollocks Bell gone. Come on England.
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Bell gone and batting powerplay under way. Should be a grandstand finish.
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Bell gone (for real) now- did he have a touch of cramp anyway?
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Bollocks Strauss gone, we are in big trouble now.
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Walk in the park now. 7 overs to go 58 needed 8 men ooops sorry 7 men to come
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No problem...still Englands match
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2 wickets in 2 balls. Game on. Much better than watching Small Heath.
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Right come on Collingwood, you owe us for your awful Ashes!
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Let's just hope dropping Bopara doesnt haunt us, this is the time he will come in and fire a quick 30 off 18 balls.
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Do not fuck it up now England.
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And to make things worse Zigic has just scored!
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Run rate getting to high.
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Run rate getting to high.
Yep ,need a couple of fours & some 2's in the next over to get back on track
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Wasted over over 44
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That's it Collingwood should be dropped, terrible.
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Not singles please
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Collingwood is a liability. England management need to be more ruthless no time for miplaced loyalty
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What a dreadful day so far - West Ham won, England have thrown it away and Blues are winning.
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Collingwood is past it and never ever a number 5.
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Fucking disgraceful Prior, well done.
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Prior out now, so forget it. A brave try though
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It's going to be a tad difficult now Prior gone
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We looked in such a strong position, as well.
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What a dreadful day so far - West Ham won, England have thrown it away and Blues are winning.
Liverpool lost, England have had a real go and Arsenal have equalised.
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England need a 20 over
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What a dreadful day so far - West Ham won, England have thrown it away and Blues are winning.
Liverpool lost, England have had a real go and Arsenal have equalised.
England have collapsed and have thrown it away im afraid
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Clueless Bopara gets us over the line against Netherlands and we drop him, He is a good bowler aswell.
I knew it would cost us in the end, grrrrrh
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England have done very well, but Anderson and Collingwood have massively let us down.
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As I say, Collingwood absolutely has to go. Anderson should be dropped as well. Fantastic from Strauss and Bell.
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What the fuck did Yardy do there? What the fuck does Yardy offer? He's a crap batsman at this level and inferior to Tredwell as a bowler.
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England have done very well, but Anderson and Collingwood have massively let us down.
Even Luke Wright wouldn't have leaked as many runs as Anderson! 30 from 13...?!
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No time for recriminations. We have got a lot closer than I anticipated. Strauss was the key wicket.
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Nice one Swanney.
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Close but no cigar.
It's no cause to rejoice.
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Has it finished yet?
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Game fucking on!
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You beauty.
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Good gracious, a 6 from Bresnan- this could be some last over
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Tough but still on.
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Good gracious, a 6 from Bresnan- this could be some last over
.or maybe not..........
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Fuck me!
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Shazhad 6 of his first ball!!!
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Fuck me!
Can we wait till the end of the over?
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bloody hell go for a slog and win.
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Tell me tell me! Why's going on???
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Unbelievable result. Collingwood has to go.
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That must be it- do we win having lost less wickets????????????
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What a game.
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WHO WON?
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A draw.338 each You will not see a better game.
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Its a Tie..............
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Did well to tie it after doing their best to fuck it up.
Well done.
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Tell me tell me! Why's going on???
Single off the last ball, game tied.
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WHO WON?
Scores tied , but...??
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1 point each.
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That was fucking brilliant, what a game.
Perfect result as well really I suppose.
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What a game, unbelievable game, can't believe I had to miss the last hour!
We need to learn from today, Bopara must start.
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A tie then- but we will take more heart from the result than India I'd think
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A tie then- but we will take more heart from the result than India I'd think
mmmmmmmm 50/50 really as when Bell and Strauss were together we should have won but I never thought we would get near 330+
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Great weekend so far. Wins for Villa and England yesterday, brilliant game of cricket, now just need Arsenal to round it off for me.
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A tie then- but we will take more heart from the result than India I'd think
They will have burning effigies of the Indian players tonight.
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Well that breaths life into the World Cup and 50 over cricket absolutely incredible. Although like I said Collingwood is nowhere near good enough to be number 5 and Anderson has been atrocious so far. Strauss magnificent, and Bell. And well done to the lads in the lower order who got us the tie. Bresnan's bowling as well was brilliant.
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Superb match. Some excellent cricket from the likes of Tendulkar & Strauss, Zaheer & Bresnan.
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Great game, well done both teams.
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Does that class as a successful run chase? Have we now got 3 of the top four highest chases in WC history now?
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Great game, great finish... it didn't look possible with 5 overs to go.
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Does that class as a successful run chase? Have we now got 3 of the top four highest chases in WC history now?
Err...good question!
We definitely hold the record for the highest total in a tied game if that helps.
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Brilliant game. Hopefully that will kick-start the tournament... it's been a bit of a damp squib till now.
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Well England have been the most entertaining team to watch so far. Pretty unpredictable.
Pretty distraught we didn't win the game, but would have taken it at the start of our innings.
Strauss played probably the best one day innings ever seen from an English batsmen. Quite majestic.
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It was a bloody brilliant game.
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Meanwhile Kieron Pollard has just hit a six that probably should have been a 12!
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Pollard's got 54 of 23 balls now, great fun.
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I'm gonna have to youtube pollard's innings,w e don't get many highlights in Canada.
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If they are of Canada there won't be many!
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If they are of Canada there won't be many!
haha I know, i should have asked them if they needed another player.
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Hopefully we will hammer Ireland tomorrow like other teams have battered the associate nations.
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2 hat tricks in 2 days, let's hope England make it 3 out of 3.
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KP in 'giving his wicket away stupidly' shocker...
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Fucking reverse sweep again!
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For those people talking about Trott and his "slow run rate" - currently he is at the crease with Bell and they have both faced 61 balls
Trott has scored 60 and Bell 51.
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He's also now the third fastest player to reach 1000 ODI runs. (Viv Richards and KP the other 2).
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We're going well actually. 110+ partnership, 6 runs an over, well set up for a barnstorming finish, with batting down to ten...
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Just a quick question.
Does anyone know a pub in Hamburg that is likely to show the Cricket World Cup Final on 2nd April??
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If Yardy never plays for England again, it will be too soon.
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Not good enough.
Should have scored 400.
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327 for 8 isn't bad but we were on for a lot more than that.
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Is there something about the light at this time in the innings in the day/nighters?
India were doing the "swing and a miss" thing at about the same time in their innings on Sunday.
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The light seemed fine to me. Obviously, you can't really tell on tv but the floodlights weren't on.
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Should have got a lot more, but should be plenty. Our bowlers need to turn up for this game.
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We like dropping the catches.
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Umm, is this actually happening?
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OK, I know very little about cricket, but this innings (?) sounds very impressive from ireland.....
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I wish we could swap yardy's bowling figures with his batting figures.
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This partnership is 160 at 10 an over! And they don't look in any danger...
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OK, I know very little about cricket, but this innings (?) sounds very impressive from ireland.....
Yer man's just got the quickest century in WC history!
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Kevin gone
Of course I mean Sinead!
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getting our English arses handed to us good and proper....well played Ireland
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I want Ireland to win now, they deserve it for O'Brien's innings.
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Didn't a John Mooney used to post on here?
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I want Ireland to win now, they deserve it for O'Brien's innings.
I think I do too, we don't deserve anything today, we've been abysmal. We're not going to win the thing anyway.
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Dot balls are few and far between.
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England bowling does not deserve anything. Battered by Holland, India and now Ireland.
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one 4 off the last ball and it's all on again.
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5 overs 34 needed. This is very doable for Ireland. I fear for Flower after this!
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32 extras against us so far ! Thats diabolical !
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5 overs 34 needed. This is very doable for Ireland. I fear for Flower after this!
Why?
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O'Brien has played brilliantly
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5 overs 34 needed. This is very doable for Ireland. I fear for Flower after this!
Why?
Loose connection I know but remember the last time Ireland won a WC match Bob Woolmer?
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Broad is injured according to Bumble, good 4 for the Irish boys.
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5 overs 34 needed. This is very doable for Ireland. I fear for Flower after this!
Why?
Loose connection I know but remember the last time Ireland won a WC match Bob Woolmer?
Ah I remember !!
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KP, Broad & Swann all injured... and they've still got 4 wickets in hand.
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3 now, but Broad dishes up a full toss to the new batsmen and he smacks it for 4.
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Great running, England are very poor.
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They need 3 from the last over. Shocking result from England.
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Well done Ireland!!
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Terrible result but well done Ireland
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Didn't a John Mooney used to post on here?
He was certainly on a mission from God today.
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Well played Ireland, shocker for England... all those injuries maybe means they played too long in Australia.
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What an absolutely pathetic display.
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Now that was bloody exciting. Commiserations, but (to these untrained eyes) I think the best team won.....
EDIT: In this game, obviously. Bit of a "Doncaster moment" for England though.
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Well fuck my old boots.
Looked like a game too far. Players looking fatigued and tired in the field again, no real zip.
Shouldn't have made any odds with 320+ on the board and having Ireland 115-5 at one point.
Credit to Ireland though, shouldn't necessarily be the huge shock I'm sure it will be made out to be as a fair few of that side are involved in county cricket. Great for associate nations and hopefully the wider cricket game.
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Bloody hell, well done Ireland but that' a shocker.
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That makes the South African game even more interesting at the weekend!
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Well done Ireland, but it is staggering how we persist with Collingwood and Anderson. Our bowling and fielding has been an utter disgrace, 4 or 5 dropped catches again. Pathetic.
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I think they are all too knackered, I think some of them have come Billy Big B........cks after winning the ashes. And Collingwoods confidence is shot and needs to be dropped, same with Anderson.
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Very well played by Ireland. That was an astonishing performance by O Brien. Hopefully, this is the big wake up call we need for the rest of the tournament?
I'd keep the top four as they are, but make a few changes for the rest for Sunday morning...
Strauss
KP
Trott
Bell
Bopara
Prior
Bresnan
Swann
Broad
Shahzad
Tredwell
If Broad is injured, bring in Wright. There's nine potential bowlers there, surely giving Strauss alternatives if - as today - some players don't perform with the ball.
Or we can persevere with Yardy, Colly & Jimmy and go out with a whimper? It's not as if Strauss & Flower are afraid of big decisions (look at the way they preferred Sidebottom to Anderson for the T20 WC and won it!).
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My concern is the lack of runs from number 5 onwards. We saw it on Sunday against India and again today against Ireland.
We built a solid platform in both games but once the big partnerships were broken we were unable to capitalize and lost cheap wickets. We're missing Morgan and whilst KP opening seems to be a good move so far, he leaves a hole at number 3 or 4. We don't have a shot player coming in at the death to play the big shots. We have too many nudgers and nurdlers and not enough powerful boundary hitters.
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As I said in all three games we have been carrying Collingwood and Anderson and they need to go. Some of the dropped catches were appalling and they better buck their ideas up massively.
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Haven't seen it but the team changes don't sound silly based on previous matches and todays scorecard.
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I fell asleep about 30 overs in to the Irish innings, waking up briefly to see the scorecard. When I got woken up to watch the match a couple of hours later I went downstairs and said that I'd just had a weird dream where Ireland actually won. Oh.
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Well the umpires are hardly covering themselves in glory in this Pakistan v Canada match - 4 successful reviews from the teams already in this Canada innings (one of the ones given not out is the plummest of LBW decisions you'll ever see!)
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Two close games today -
New Zealand have beaten Zimbabwe by 10 wickets, and Windies have bowled Bangladesh out for 58!
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It's only England who can't thrash the crap teams.
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Only the England games (and maybe Pakistan-Sri Lanka) haven't been completely boring.
Hopefully it'll be a lot more exciting by the Quarter-Final stage.
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The desperately poor performances by our bowlers and fielders have really been highlighted by the other hammerings that are getting dished out.
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I fell asleep about 30 overs in to the Irish innings,
As did the England bowlers and fielders!
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7 balls in and Sri Lanka v Australia is looking tasty already. I think I'm going to enjoy this!
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7 balls in and Sri Lanka v Australia is looking tasty already. I think I'm going to enjoy this!
Tait won that battle though.
I agree, I think this has the makings to be a very good match.
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Not a great run rate at the moment but Sangakarra still there and wickets in hand.
And it's raining.
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KP, Swann, Collingwood may be out. First two, bad news. On Collingwood, can we replace him with Morgan?!
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After a terrible start against south africa (3-2 at one stage) Trott and Bopara are trying to construct an innings to defend.
88-3 at present in the 24th over. 3.7 runs per over.
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Switched on just as they were reviewing the (not out) run out of Bopara. We really need these pair to put on a 150+ partnership.
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Lets hope so VSM. run rate is slowly going up.
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Well there goes Trott for 52.
I can't see us getting passed 180 at all.
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I think regardless of what happens for the rest of the World Cup serious questions need to be asked about the way we prepared for it (much like after the Ashes defeat in 06/07). We played too many games in a short space of time over in Australia and you can see that the likes of Strauss, Pietersen etc are knackered both physically and mentally.
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We started down the route of one day teams/5 day teams. Not sure how/if, they decided it was a bad thing, but most of our one day players are also test players.
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Most countries though have a core of players that play all forms of the game, but the fact that we played 5 test matches in a 6 week period, followed quickly by 2 T20s and 7 ODIs in a 4 week period won't have helped at all. Add to that the travelling we've had to do (Eng-Aus-Eng-Ind) and that is a lot.
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Agreed.
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171. Hmmm.
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What a bag of shit innings that was, Trott and Bopara apart.
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Bopara showed why he should have been playing all along. So if we beat West Indies and Bangladesh do we go through? I agree with the point above, our preparation has been ridiculous.
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80 for 2, two newish batsmen at the crease, including AB De Villiers, the cheat. We need quick wickets!
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Fair play to Kallis there - asking Prior if it carried and when he said yes it had Kallis walked.
Take note Ponting you rat faced ******.
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Weird Anderson just bowled De Villiers.
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thought I heard a noise. Bails went without the stumps moving.
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Yeah I thought he'd edged it at first, and wondered why they didn't appeal.
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thought I heard a noise. Bails went without the stumps moving.
I said as the ball went through that DV had nicked it, that's how loud the noise was.
We've bowled really well today.
Just watched to slow motion of that Anderson ball - as the players celebrated KP is walking over looking like a right sad fucker, whilst everyone else is cheering.
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And another quick one gone - 124/5
We could sneak this you know.
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Another gone, this is interesting now. Great fielding. It'd be nice if we could combine a fielding, bowling and batting display.
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we might have a chance here.
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The Proteas have better record than England for bottling!
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I'd say it's still very much in the Saffers favour, but another couple of wickets could be interesting.
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That's out that is from Jimmy - you can hear the noise as the ball passes the bat but not pad.
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bowled!!! what a delivery!!
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Review that fucker then!!!
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Jimmy has turned up at the World Cup!
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get in. GET OUT!
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how the fuck did that miss the stumps, what a delivery!
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Not sure why we've brought Pietersen on.
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Prior misses a great stumping chance.
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Hope that dont cost us.
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Yardy, hmmm I'd give Bopara a go.
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Not sure why we've brought Pietersen on.
I'm more worried that we've brought Yardy into the attack.
I could bowl better than him.
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Yardy just doesn't seem to do a great deal, he's ok in 20/20 but not good enough for 50 over in my opinion.
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shows what I know!
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He He.
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Hmmmm!
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That's another dropped chance from Prior
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This has got interesting over the last half an hour hasn't it!
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Whatever happens in this tournament there is no denying that Engand have been involved in some fantastic matches.
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I'd bring pace on again at one end.
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Bowl the fucking ball straight Yardy.
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Right get him out of the attack, that is piss poor.
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Got to bring Anderson back on.
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Get seam on Strauss.
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they still have a batting powerplay to go too.
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I don't think we should be bowling part timers here, we need to bowl them out.
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It's lasting longer than I thought it would.
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That wicket aside Yardy really is a poor cricketer.
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Whatever happens in this tournament there is no denying that Engand have been involved in some fantastic matches.
just wish we'd win one of em.
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Bowl fuller Broad.
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That wicket aside Yardy really is a poor cricketer.
County player for me.
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Put our proper bowlers on Strauss.
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That wicket aside Yardy really is a poor cricketer.
County player for me.
Village for me. I really do not rate the bloke. Nor Luke Wright.
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We should only be using the proper bowlers.
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Completely off topic...
The full name of Genoa is Genoa Cricket and Football Club.
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considering the total they are defending, the bowlers are having a right good go.
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That wicket aside Yardy really is a poor cricketer.
County player for me.
Village for me. I really do not rate the bloke. Nor Luke Wright.
Nor me..........Treadwell is a much better spinner and why does Yardy bat before Bresnan, Swann and Broad !!
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We've let this slip here.
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Jimmy come on............
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Come on Jimmy concentate son.
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Need to cut out these wides.
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Come on swanny!!
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I'd have a more attacking field.
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I'd get Bresnan on.
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Quick hat trick will sort this.
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Anderson is bowling too short.
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Come on Bres, hat trick.
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Need a wicket this over.
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Bres strikes!
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Glad I said that.
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I think we should have an ultra attacking field now.
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Come on Bres.
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Don't get this short stuff at all. Think it's gone now.
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Yeah, them 5 overthrows haven't helped the cause.
Although the score we posted was 10/15 runs too short.
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Yes!!! Broady.
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PLUMB!!!!
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Steyn has gone!
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You fucking beauty Broady.
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Bowl at the stumps Broad.
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What are the odds on another tie?
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What are the odds on another tie?
STOP IT!!!!
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YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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You BEAUTY!!!!!
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Brilliant bowling and fielding!
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YOU FUCKING BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU FUCKING BEAUTY!!!!!!!!!!!
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Brilliant, England. Great game, great win.
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Now that is what makes Cricket so f*cking GREAT!
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Unbelievable! THE best ODI I have every seen and India was good last week!
Ha ha quality
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Unbelievably, you still meet people who reckon cricket is boring.
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Fucking get in
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Unbelievably, you still meet people who reckon cricket is boring.
Such is life.
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What a game.
We are by far the best team to watch in this tournament. Not the best team, just the best team to watch!
Yardy wouldn't make my veterans team.
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Bopara has to stay in the team now.
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Bopara has to stay in the team now.
Agreed and Treadwell has to come in for Yardy
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Bopara should have been in at the start of the tournament.
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MOTM Bopara.
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Yardy has to go, he is neither a batsmen or a bowler.
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That should see us qualify now for the Quarter Finals.
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isn't there another group stage first?
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isn't there another group stage first?
Not sure on the format other than someone said earlier that it's the top 4 that go through.
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isn't there another group stage first?
4 from each group go straight to the quarter finals.
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The ICC should be very grateful to have England in this World Cup. The rest of it has been the dampest of squib's.
Lots of character shown after a below par batting display (Bopara and Trott aside).
Good to see Anderson and Broad bowling well.
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Ireland giving it another go against India, two wickets already.
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Ireland giving it another go against India, two wickets already.
Been fantastic, regardless of how far they go in this tournament. Couple of Warwickshire players in the team as well. So come on you Irish.
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I see Mike Hussey is now joining up with the Aussie squad after previously withdrawing due to injury.
He's come in as replacement for Bollinger.
Maybe England could do something similar? Now Collingwood's taken a slight knock get rid of him and call up Eoin Morgan?
He would be a huge difference to the middle order.
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That's ridiculous! Tremlett wasn't allowed to play in our warm-up games even though he stayed with the squad as cover. What's the point of naming a 15 man squad and then bringing in a replacement? And it's clearly tactical as Dougie's a quick and Hussey a batsman.
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Well done England.
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That's ridiculous! Tremlett wasn't allowed to play in our warm-up games even though he stayed with the squad as cover. What's the point of naming a 15 man squad and then bringing in a replacement? And it's clearly tactical as Dougie's a quick and Hussey a batsman.
I agree to be honest I think you should be allowed a 17 man squad, to accommodate injuries. However once the squad is decided and the tournament starts, no more calling in players.
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Great win today, good recovery after the other day.
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Pietersen apparently flying home on Monday. I dare say England will call up Morgan as he is netting with Middlesex and that's not a bad awap. Bell up to open with Strauss I'd hope
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Pietersen apparently flying home on Monday. I dare say England will call up Morgan as he is netting with Middlesex and that's not a bad awap. Bell up to open with Strauss I'd hope
TBH if it was the Pietersen of 3 years ago, then it would be a huge loss. Whilst now we can cope without him.
Hopefully Morgan will come in and make a huge difference to the middle order.
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Been confirmed now on the beeb - KP out and Morgan back in.
As I commented yesterday - with every wicket England took yesterday KP didn't seem to be celebrating with the rest of the team. Makes me wonder a bit about this "hernia" problem - after all, would he have bowled 8/9 overs if it was that bad?
Anyway - are we all psyched up for today's clash of the titans - Kenya v Canada?
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That is bad news for us, we'll miss KP, but Morgan in is good.
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Looks like Canada are going to beat Kenya
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I have a day booked off work and think, "I'll watch a bit of the cricket". What viewing delight have the organisers got for me? Canada versus sodding Kenya. Thanks for that. Why can't they play two games a day?
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I wonder if it will make the sports headlines over here today, nah probably not!
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Don't necessarily think Pieterson will be a huge loss, in fact I think they're better for this change - depending on just how fit Morgan is.
In poorer England teams over the years KP was the best/ most important player by far. But most of the first five look like they have plenty of runs in them now. A few of that lot may miss out but it currently looks like at least three in any game will chip in. With decent depth further down to order - England bat as far down as 9 now, this shouldn't be a huge problem.
KP keeps his place in the side because you always think there might be one special innings in him, but those knocks have become more and more spread out in recent years. He hasn't really learnt or progressed over the years, still getting out to the same mindless rash stokes, still playing for himself rather than the team.
Would be tempted to open with Trott. Think he has the discipline and allround game to be completely unflustered whether he opens or comes in at 5/6.
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No, keep Trott at 3, he's playing well there. Bell has opened before, but he's also playing okay at four.
Hmmm...Bopara to open maybe?
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Bopara to open for me, and Morgan to slot into his roll in the side.
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I'd bring Prior back up to open personally.
Strauss
Prior
Trott
Bell
Bopara
Morgan
Collingwood
Bresnan
Swann
Broad
Anderson
That is how I would line up against Bangladesh.
Collingwood may be out of touch but I'd still trust him more to get runs/wickets than Yardy or Wright.
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That makes sense to me, VS, you need somebody up there who can make the most of the power play.
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That makes sense to me, VS, you need somebody up there who can make the most of the power play.
I agree, im no expert on the pitches in Bangladesh but I wouldnt have thought they would be that "spinner" friendly but
when we go back to India/Sri Lanka I would swop Colly for Treadwell
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They went with Prior opening a while back, think he even got into the ODI side initially doing that. It didn't work out. He might make a better stab of it now.
I can see the argument for not tinkering too much and jeopardising the form of a guy who looks comfortable coming in at 3 (Trott). But I think we've become too conditioned to having to work around players who aren't hugely adaptable and only seem to have any degree of success in fixed positions (KP, Bell).
Trott's technique is basically sound, he doesn't seem to get flustered regardless of the match situation and he's capable of getting big runs. He might not be as explosive as some of the others, but if he and Strauss can build a solid platform at the top -even without the Sehwag- like fireworks- it makes it easier for the other guys coming in.
Morgan takes care of any concerns about the middle order, so they can dick about with Bopara/ Bell for 3/4.
FWIW I reckon they'll go with Bell though.
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I almost agree with you, Bazzwald. The only difference is that I wouldn't play Colly, I'd shift the lower order up one and play Tredwell at ten. We've got to go in with two spinners, Trott can bowl his Collycutters and I'd even prefer to see Bell lob a few pies than see Yardy bowl! That's potentially 30 overs of pace, 20 of spin, with back up from Bopara & Trott if required (ie when one of our quicks breaks down...).
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I almost put a little disclaimer next to Collingwood saying that if it looks a more spinner friendly pitch to put Tredwell in.
I'll admit to not knowing much about the wickets in Bangladesh, but I do remember KP moaning about one of the wickets when we toured there last year, and a bit of research tells me that was Chittagong.
This is the first match of the tournament there, and unless they have dramatically changed the pitch I can't see it being that spinner friendly.
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Broad is a doubt for the game against Bangladesh with another side strain injury. (Clicky) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/9417890.stm)
Sky saying that it's the other side to his latest injury, but could still rule him out of the tournament.
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Shazad or Tremlett then?
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Ros Taylor for NZ, on his birthday, celebrates by being dropped badly twice early on and going on to bring up his century by slapping Akhtar all around the ground.
Great fun.
NZ have just got 50 of their last 3 overs.
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This is fucking fantastic from New Zealand, Oram's just got out but he and Taylor have just had a partnership of 85 in 22 balls!
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Averaged 20 an over off their last 5 overs. Could actually be an exciting game.
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45 Overs gone and it was 202-5
50 Overs gone and it was 302-7
What a fantastic end of the innings, especially from Taylor. From 200-300 took just 29 balls - that was amazing.
EDIT - It was 5 wickets down not 6
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45 Overs gone and it was 202-6
50 Overs gone and it was 302-7
What a fantastic end of the innings, especially from Taylor. From 200-300 took just 29 balls - that was amazing.
Blimey! Come on NZ!!!!
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Taylor's got from 31-131 in 67 balls. 75-131 (56 runs) in just 19 balls!
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Pakistan 1 down already.
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Good grief 100 runs off 5 overs!
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Vettori going down injured though isn't going to help the Kiwi cause.
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At least this tournament is proving the 50 over game still has a future thankfully, much prefer it to the 20/20 nonsense.
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At least this tournament is proving the 50 over game still has a future thankfully, much prefer it to the 20/20 nonsense.
Agreed
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According to Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/8368583/Cricket-World-Cup-2011-Stuart-Broad-ruled-out-of-Englands-campaign-with-side-injury.html) Broad is out of the World Cup.
Are we able to call up a second replacement?
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Wowzers...that was some hitting...very enjoyable against them lot as well...
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According to Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/8368583/Cricket-World-Cup-2011-Stuart-Broad-ruled-out-of-Englands-campaign-with-side-injury.html) Broad is out of the World Cup.
Are we able to call up a second replacement?
Seems to be hinting on the BBC that Tremlett will replace him, so maybe we're allowed another replacement.
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Bad news about Broad.
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Shazad or Tremlett then?
Shahzad for me. After the WC, I'd go (assuming all fit): Strauss, Kieswetter/Prior, Trott, Bell, Bopara, Morgan, Bresnan, Swann, Broad, Shahzad, Woakes.
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Bad news about Broad.
Agreed but I don't think we will win it even if we had him!
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According to Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/8368583/Cricket-World-Cup-2011-Stuart-Broad-ruled-out-of-Englands-campaign-with-side-injury.html) Broad is out of the World Cup.
Are we able to call up a second replacement?
Seems to be hinting on the BBC that Tremlett will replace him, so maybe we're allowed another replacement.
I know I'm biased, but I'd go for Woakes over Tremlett - I think he can add more overall.
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According to Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/cricket/international/england/8368583/Cricket-World-Cup-2011-Stuart-Broad-ruled-out-of-Englands-campaign-with-side-injury.html) Broad is out of the World Cup.
Are we able to call up a second replacement?
Seems to be hinting on the BBC that Tremlett will replace him, so maybe we're allowed another replacement.
Tremlett was always in the squad, but I do think we can call up another replacement if required.
Maybe Woakes? Probably no need though just yet.
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It said on Sky earlier that Tremlett was a travelling reserve and not in the squad? Would need to be added I think.
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Andrew Strauss (captain), Matt Prior (wicketkeeper), Ian Bell, , Paul Collingwood, Tim Bresnan, Eoin Morgan, Kevin Pietersen, James Tredwell, Luke Wright, Graeme Swann, Jonathan Trott, Michael Yardy, James Anderson, Stuart Broad, Ajmal Shahzad.
Was the original squad - Morgan then got injured and replaced by Bopara. KP then got injured to be replaced by Morgan. So as it now stands it's -
Andrew Strauss (captain)
Matt Prior (wicketkeeper)
Ian Bell
Paul Collingwood
Tim Bresnan
Eoin Morgan
James Tredwell
Luke Wright
Graeme Swann
Jonathan Trott
Michael Yardy
James Anderson
Stuart Broad
Ajmal Shahzad
So I'm guessing in that case then, as Tremlett is already travelling with the squad, he will replace Broad.
Any chance Yardy could get injured next please.
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This World Cup is silly. Even a great performance like that in the closing overs from New Zealand's batters means nothing as both teams will coast through anyway.
I would have it as Group Winners go straight into the semis, Group runners-up/ Group third place teams play-off for the remaining semi spots. That would make the opening round genuinely competitive, with the elite competing for top spots while other proper cricket nations worried they might not even get through.
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I've only just got round to watching the highlights of the New Zealand v Pakistan match, the missed chances by the wicketkeeper were quite laughable and the bowling from Akhtar was shambolic. They couldn't be up to their old tricks again could they?
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Someone was saying on the TV the other day that the Pakistan Cricket Board have asked the ICC to look into the India v England match because Shane Warne had predicted it to be a tie before the match started. I'm guessing he was taking the piss though! (About the fixing).
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Nearly had another hat-trick from Sri Lanka but Jaywardena dropped the hat trick ball catch from Dilshan.
But what a fantastic match it has been.
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Morgan, Collingwood and Shazad in. KP, Broad and the village cricketer out for England. Prior to open with Strauss.
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What a stupid fuck up from Prior. He's a wicket-keeper, should know all about stumping. To go walk about whilst the ball is in the 'keepers hands, and then just stand there as he takes the stump out is fucking idiotic.
He does a lot of good stuff does Matty, but every now and then he does something monumental like that.
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Shit start from England - soft wickets gone. 54-3. Need Trott and Morgan to put a big partnership on here.
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This is rubbish, I know it's a difficult pitch but we have got to be scoring quicker than this.
Oh, and now Morgan out - great!
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Much needed century partnership, and a good catch to get Morgan.
You're right though Dave - we should be scoring a lot quicker than we are.
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Are we doing this on purpose? Can't we just win a game nice and easy?
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It's going to be a key opening 3/4 overs in the Bangladesh innings - if we can get a quick wicket I think their confidence will shatter like against the Windies and we'll skittle them out for around 150.
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225 all out then.
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225 is generally a shit score in modern ODI cricket, but it might be sufficient here.
Only one spinner for England but Collingwood (and maybe even Trott) could yet have a big say.
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Not the best total but should be defended
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Bangladesh making us look pretty stupid here.
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Tamin's gone. Hopefully they'll fall apart.
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Swann is struggling with the ball.
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Well this is a pretty absymal start.
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Our bowling at the beginning of an innings has been piss poor all tournament.
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Some of our bowling so far has been nothing short of shocking. Wides galore.
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Lose to Ireland and possibly bangladesh, and draw with India (although should've won) and beat South Africa. We really haven't progressed that much since the last World Cup. We should, and i thimnk will, beat West Indies to at least make the quarter-finals, but would anyone expect us to get much further than that?
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going down without a fight in this one.
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Need a few quick ones boys.
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Enjoy the silence.
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Only chance we have in this is Bangladesh throwing it away.
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Come on Bresnan. You can do it!!
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166-6. Very interesting.
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Mini collapse here - could we get out of jail again?
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and now 7. HMM.
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Runs have completely dried up since the run out, think we're on top now.
Edit - another wicket, we're definitely on top.
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Mini collapse here - could we get out of jail again?
SHHHHHHHH.
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Still 50/50 but we have the momentum. They won't run out of overs so we need to bowl them out. Sounds stupid but its an either them or us at the moment inasmuch as its they will have to start looking to take a risk or two, and it'll either work out or they will get out. As its bangladeh's lower order it should be the latter. But with this England team you just never know.
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Of course, Shahzad bowling like this helps...
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It's gone very quiet.
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Great catch, Bresnan.
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What a fantastic catch from Bresnan. 170-8
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What a catch!! 8 down.
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It would be nice if in 1 game we could look experts at batting AND bowling.
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It would be nice if in 1 game we could look experts at batting AND bowling.
Hopefuly were saving ourselves.
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It would be nice if in 1 game we could look experts at batting AND bowling.
It wouldn't be half as much fun though.
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Bowling Swanny.
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Sure we have a death wish.
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Anderson FFS. Take a wicket at least.
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Fucking hell Anderson. Have you been in touch with the Pakistani fixers on bowling wides on the trot.
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Useless, Anderson - he's gifting it to them.
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If Anderson is bowling the next over, expect the winning runs this over from a wide.
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Anderson still going down leg side.
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I don't watch cricket, but decided to give it a go today, and England look dreadful since the 8t wicket? Looked like we shoulda won from there? Am i right? Or well off the mark?
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2 big wickets required now
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England through it away against the also rans again.
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Well done Bangladesh. England less said the better.
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As Senior bowlers, I would have expected better from Swann and Anderson at the end.
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What a bunch of wankers.
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23 fucking wides? Jesus.
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That wasn't very good was it, oh well maybe in four years we might win it!
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Before we give the bowlers the shit that they fully deserve, it wasn't helped by a shit score to defend from the batsmen - only 2 players got over 20 runs. Against a side like Bangladesh that is beyond shit.
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To be honest, whilst the matches against India and South Africa have been great entertainment, England could easily be looking at four defeats. The victory against the Dutch wasn't convincing, either.
A team that loses to Ireland and Bangladesh is not amongst the best eight in the world.
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I'm sorry but this largely comes down to our bowling being desperately sloppy. 23 wides is a fucking disgrace. Also playing Collingwood as a 'bowler' is fucking mental. Terrible.
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This World Cup has been an utter shambles from England's perspective, it's currently inexcusable. We have to beat the West Indies to stand a chance.
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We don't stand a chance, Paul.
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Why not bring Tredwell & Wright in for Colly & Anderson? They deserve a chance after so long out there.
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Why not bring Tredwell & Wright in for Colly & Anderson? They deserve a chance after so long out there.
Luke Wright.........not in a million years, got to be Tremlett but I agree about Treadwell
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I agree Tremlett is a better bowler, but Wright better fits in with our jack of all trades, master of none ethos!
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Very embarrassing. One shock is one thing but to lose to ireland and bangladesh shows something is wrong. It must be the team. Why persist with the average Yardy/Bopara/Wright type players? the have consistently been average so why do we persist with them, hopoing that they will turn into the bits and pieces players only England think are the way to win 50 over games?
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Well said Pete thats where we have gone so wrong.........we need to pick the top 6 batters, a wicketkeeper and then the 4 best one day bowlers and not the best 2 bowlers and 2 bits and pieces players........and why hasnt Trott being given a few overs and Bell can bowl too
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Regardless of what happens against the Windies, I suspect there will be a lot of changes in the ODI set up after the World Cup. The problem we have is with the likes of Yardy/Wright. Not taking away the fact that they are fucking shit, but also - what are they? Bowlers? Batsmen? All-Rounders?
We also need to sort out the opening partnership - I like Prior, but I'm not sure the way he's playing at the moment that he's the right "foil" as it were for Strauss. We need someone that will come out and from the start look to take the game to the bowlers. Take Sehwag, for example, every game he goes out and his aim is to hit a 4 off the first ball - something he has done in all 5 Indian games so far. By having that attitude he is putting pressure on the oppositions strike bowler before he's even began his run up. Of course at the other end he has Tendaulkar so that helps too.
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They say in 50 over cricket that whatever your score is after 30 overs, you should look to double it.
After 30 overs India were 197-1.
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And after 34 overs, 230 for 1!
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Tendulkar has another 100. I expect him to reach his century of International Centuries before the tournament is over.
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Very embarrassing. One shock is one thing but to lose to ireland and bangladesh shows something is wrong. It must be the team. Why persist with the average Yardy/Bopara/Wright type players? the have consistently been average so why do we persist with them, hopoing that they will turn into the bits and pieces players only England think are the way to win 50 over games?
I agree with Yardy and Wright, they are the jack of no trade type players! However Bopara has plenty of talent and I'd persevere with him.
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India lost 8 wickets for 27 runs, terrible. They must have been taking lessons from England.
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They say in 50 over cricket that whatever your score is after 30 overs, you should look to double it.
After 30 overs India were 197-1.
296 all out, the last 9 wickets going for 29!
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Oh for Dale Steyn, we would have won comfortably yesterday.
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Oh for Dale Steyn, we would have won comfortably yesterday.
Considering he conceded 14 runs off the one over, to finish with 5-50 was an excellent return.
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India lost 8 wickets for 27 runs, terrible. They must have been taking lessons from England.
Well they did almost exactly the same thing against us so they must have learnt it elsewhere.
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Oh for Dale Steyn, we would have won comfortably yesterday.
Oh for Dale Steyn, we would have won comfortably yesterday.
Considering he conceded 14 runs off the one over, to finish with 5-50 was an excellent return.
He just bowled exactly how you should bowl at the end, which consists of not hurling down wides and half volleys.
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What a fantastic finish from South Africa.
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Good game to watch
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Finally an interesting game not involving England.
South Africa the best team so far for me.
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Sri Lanka is who I've still got my money on.
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Canadians are taking the piss here with this "cramp" injury. 5 overs have been bowled in the last 45 mins by New Zealand because of this player being injured. They aren't going to win, or get anywhere near the target so he should just retire hurt.
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If it wasn't for the fact I had a long winded and urgent report to write, I would retire drunk by mid evening.
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Aussies have won
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No surprise but Bangladesh have beaten the Netherlands, so we definitely have to beat the Windies now and hope that South Africa do the business against Bangladesh too.
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We have to win, but we have a couple of chances if we win. If South Africa beat Bangladesh we'd be through or if India beat the West Indies we'd be through. Or that's how I read the table! Most importantly, we have to win.
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We have to win, but we have a couple of chances if we win. If South Africa beat Bangladesh we'd be through or if India beat the West Indies we'd be through. Or that's how I read the table! Most importantly, we have to win.
I'm not convinced we will do that against the windies but that is it with England... we don't know which team will turn up!
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We have to win, but we have a couple of chances if we win. If South Africa beat Bangladesh we'd be through or if India beat the West Indies we'd be through. Or that's how I read the table! Most importantly, we have to win.
I'm not convinced we will do that against the windies but that is it with England... we don't know which team will turn up!
I think we'll win, just because our backs are against the wall. But we will still have to rely on another result.
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2 fantastic run outs from Ireland getting rid of Smith and Kallis.
SA currently 95-4. Could this be another upset I wonder?
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Ireland winning is surely good for England isn't it?
SA will have to win against Bangladesh to go through and that means we are through if we beat WI.
Should never have come down to this though!
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If Ireland win today, and then beat Netherlands (with us beating the Windies) it will go down to - South Africa v Bangladesh and India v Windies
SA & India win the table would be -
India 9
South Africa 8
England 7
Ireland (6)
Windies (6)
Bangladesh (6)
SA & Windies win
South Africa 8
Windies 8
England 7
India 7
Ireland 6
Bangladesh 6
Bangladesh & India win
India 9
Bangladesh 8
England 7
Ireland 6
South Africa 6
Windies 6
Bangladesh & Windies win
Bangladesh 8
Windies 8
India 7
England 7
Ireland 6
South Africa 6
So in answer to your question Dave - yeah. (With Ireland knowing that a Windies win v England will see Ireland more than likely qualify on better run rate).
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Big day tomorrow, England need to step up.
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We aren't out yet then? Oh fuck it, what will be, will be tomorrow. We seem to have been playing continuous cricket for about six years now.
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If we win tomorrow, I suspect one of the results we need will occur and we'll go through. I'd definitely be considering dropping Anderson though, and Collingwood.
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Anderson has bowled like a bag of spanners all tournament. And what the chuff does Tredwell have to do to get a game?
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I still think Collingwood as a bowler is laughable!
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He hasn't actually bowled that badly though. Yardy is a different matter however...
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Yardy is fucking shit.
Shahzad is suffering from Delhi Belly, so may have no choice but to go with Jimmy tomorrow. My choice would be -
Strauss
Prior
Trott
Bell
Morgan
Bopara
Collingwood
Swann
Bresnan
Tremlett
Tredwell
Shahzad/Anderson
I'd also open the bowling with Swann - Gayle struggles against spin.
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Yardy is fucking shit.
Shahzad is suffering from Delhi Belly, so may have no choice but to go with Jimmy tomorrow. My choice would be -
Strauss
Prior
Trott
Bell
Morgan
Bopara
Collingwood
Swann
Bresnan
Tremlett
Tredwell
Shahzad/Anderson
I'd also open the bowling with Swann - Gayle struggles against spin.
Completely agree. Especially if the pitch is anything like what is was against SA.
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Shazad out for the rest of the tournament (which could end today anyway) with a hamstring problem. Jimmy is a shoo-in now!
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Shazad out for the rest of the tournament (which could end today anyway) with a hamstring problem. Jimmy is a shoo-in now!
Clearly I know nothing about cricket!
Tremlett in for Jimmy
Luke Wright in for Colly
Won the toss and batting.
Come on England!!
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A gamble from England, we really need to bat well because I don't have a lot of faith in that attack.
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A gamble from England, we really need to bat well because I don't have a lot of faith in that attack.
I agree. We've got to find 10 overs from part time bowlers. Potentially against Kieron Pollard which does not bode well.
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Good solid start, Strauss look like he's in the mood. 40 from 8.
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Prior gone for 21. Bowled, looks like a slight inside edge.
48-1
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Doing okay so far, Trott going well from the start as well.
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There seems to be a policy of having a little bit more intent in this batting performance. needs to be because as has been mentioned anything can happen with our attack.
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Trott 22 off 8 balls. More please.
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Trott looking in great touch, 22 from 8.
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There certainly seems some intent from the batsmen.
And as I say that Strauss top edges one. Bollocks.
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Strauss gone 79 - 2, good running catch by Gayle
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Trott carries on like this and we'll rack up close to 900.
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Fucking hell, Strauss, no need.
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One of the things that I enjoy about playing the Windies is the chance to listen to Tony Cozier on TMS. My favourite commentator.
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Such a soft way for Trott to get out, especially after looking so good.
Need a Morgan special here.
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One of the things that I enjoy about playing the Windies is the chance to listen to Tony Cozier on TMS. My favourite commentator.
i think just like the time my parents were supposed to know what they were doing when JFK died, I have the same experience knowing where I was the exact moment I found out Tony Cozier was white.
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One of the things that I enjoy about playing the Windies is the chance to listen to Tony Cozier on TMS. My favourite commentator.
i think just like the time my parents were supposed to know what they were doing when JFK died, I have the same experience knowing where I was the exact moment I found out Tony Cozier was white.
I know Peter, i was shocked!
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Bell gone now too.
This innings has an inevitable feel about it after such a good start.
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Oh for fuck sake, why the hell do we always do this.
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Send the support staff back to the hotel to get the packing done.
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Well that's the end of that then.
It's certainly took some of the gloss off the Ashes win.
The ECB need a kicking for organising those 7 one day games against the Aussies, when 3 would have sufficed.
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Well that's the end of that then.
It's certainly took some of the gloss off the Ashes win.
The ECB need a kicking for organising those 7 one day games against the Aussies, when 3 would have sufficed.
I agree about the ECB, but I refuse to believe that it's diminished the Ashes victory.
To go there and absolutely annihalate them is, and will always be VERY special.
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Did someone mention the Ashes? ;)
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Did someone mention the Ashes? ;)
I believe you mentioned something about going a few months back?
Still incredibly jealous >:(
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Well at least i won't have to be annoyed during the World Cup from tomorrow onwards.
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Well that's the end of that then.
It's certainly took some of the gloss off the Ashes win.
The ECB need a kicking for organising those 7 one day games against the Aussies, when 3 would have sufficed.
I agree about the ECB, but I refuse to believe that it's diminished the Ashes victory.
To go there and absolutely annihalate them is, and will always be VERY special.
I agree. It is 2 very different forms of the game. We have a very strong test side but don't quite have the right balance for one dayers.
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FFS. 6 down now. Bopara comes with his usual rubbish. To be fair as they all have.
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This is taking the piss a bit now.
Strauss/Prior/Trott came out and attacked the bowlers, and we were going well. But the rest of the batsmen have come out and defended. This isn't Test cricket where you protect your wicket and only play the bad balls - we need runs on the board for our bowlers to defend. Attack these Windies bowlers and we'll put on a good score because they can be got at. It's a win or bust game - so go out fighting you fucking wankers.
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Top 4 all got decent starts but we needed one of them to carry it on but every time we looked set they've blown it. Do well to make 200 now.
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Just bat until over 45 - look to be going around 3/4 an over and then take the last batting power play for the last 5 overs. That's if we've still got 4 wickets in hand.
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FFS
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Shot ourselves in the foot again, absolutely stupid run out.
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What do we reckon as an absolute minimum? 235?240? 50?
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They're talking about the perils of the wet ball on TMS. "It will annoy Graeme Swann, he doesn't like dew. That's not to say he's anti-semitic".
Another wicket down, Wright. 216-8. 7 overs left.
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8 down and although we have to bowl yet I fear we are going out with a wimper..
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That was a very poor shot my Wright
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Still got a chance here.
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A decent recovery to be fair, I thought we dead and buried when 6th wicket went down. Not confident but at least we've given ourselves something to defend.
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243 a/o
Got more than I thought we would when the 6th wicket when down
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Dissapointing end but at least we've made it competitive.
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Need Gayle out early, 20 overs of him and its over.
Swann has to open the bowling.
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England just want to come home don't they?
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Hmmm well no idea what type of score that is on that pitch. The bowlers will have to do well. Time to step up.
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Brutal from Gayle, this could be over very quickly if we don't get him out.
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Big wicket. 9 more big wickets to get.
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Smith gone now too.
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Pollard and Sarwan still to come. Sounds like the bleeding obvious but we need to just concentrate on taking wickets in this one as its the only way we'll win.
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That's a big wicket.
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4 Down. Sammy was going well there.Got to get Sarwan out fast.
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Their innings is starting to take a shape very similar to ours.
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5 down. COME ON!!!!
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It surely is fatigue then.
Look how well the hardly used Tredwell, Bopara and the returned from injury Morgan (last game) have done.
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Nice one swanny.
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Never a dull moment with England in this competition.
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Still West Indies game to lose.
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Unlucky there from Trott. Oh for the boundry to be a couple of inches further out.
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Too close for them to give I suppose but the rope didn't move even a fraction.
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8 down Sarwan gone. well took Bell. Now were into bad territory when England usually throw it away.
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Great catch, Tremlett.
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Nine down. What a catch. Nice one Tremlett.
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We don't do boring do we!
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Got im.
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Well done England.
Excellent fight shown today.
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Fantastic, they've got some bottle this lot.
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How the fuck did we win that!
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Best team to watch. For the neutral.
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Still have to rely on others but I can't see SA not beating Bangladesh or India not beating West Indies.
Great result today and you have to think if our name is on the trophy ?
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We are generally rather rubbish but we are very good at winning tight games, I don't reckon anyone will want to draw England in the quarter-finals.
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What an unbelievable win.
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Lots of bottle in the field today.
Batting still a huge worry, no one seems to want to play that really big match defining innings (Strauss incredible knock against India aside).
On turning pitches Swann and Tredwell mean we have a chance of beating anyone though.
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Crazy game, what a finish!
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I'll say well played Tredwell, a much much better bowler than Yardy.
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Also Strauss has hopefully realised that Bopara is worth a bowl.
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Can we not just either win or lose by a hefty margin? These tight games are killing me!
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Wow. i had to pick up my son from nursery and as I was pulling in I heard a review that was turned down (not the 6 but a run out I think). I turned off as they only needed 20 odd at that stage with 4 wickets left. On the way home I flicked through the stations and as I went passed Radio 4 Jonathon Agnew was reading the bowling figures which he sounded downcast with in the nano-second he had to keep me beleiving we could win.
After that I avoided any news- all day- and didn't watch the highlights as I was so bloody peed off with us messing up again.
And then this morning whilst at work I logged on to the Beeb website!!!! Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
I bet we still get knocked out now.
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Bangladesh are 31/4 off 12 overs chasing 285 against South Africa. So we're as good as through.
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All out for 78, England have qualified.
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Looks like Sri Lanka in next round.
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Through to the quarter finals, not sure how!
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Looks like Sri Lanka in next round.
Australia now or Pakistan if West Indies beat India.
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Bloody hell thank god South Africa did the business, because if we were relying on India we'd probably be gone.
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Maybe not actually they've imploded.
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Sri Lanka in Colombo it is. Very tough, but with our side you never know.
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We are the only side not to have lost to any of the other qualifiers.
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Indeed. Quite bizarre to go through when you lost to Ireland and Bangladesh but remian unbeaten against India, South Africa, and the West Indies.
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The good thing about this World Cup is that out of all the Q/F's its hard to call any of the games.
Sri Lanka will be favourites against England, but it depends which England turn up.
Same with South Africa and New Zealand. NZ are like England in that you never know what team will turn up.
West Indies v Pakistan is so hard to call. Both teams go from being brilliant to downright awful (especially Pakistan).
India v Australia is also hard to call. Hope India win, but you can never trust Australia and they are at their most dangerous when they have just lost.
I'm looking forward to all of the games.
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I'm going:
England to beat Sri Lanka in a last over nailbiter.
SA to stuff NZ.
Pakistan to edge West Indies
India to beat Australia to keep the home fans happy until we beat them in the final.
But yes, they all could go either way, there isn't a stand-out team in this World Cup.
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Indeed. Quite bizarre to go through when you lost to Ireland and Bangladesh but remian unbeaten against India, South Africa, and the West Indies.
piece of piss from here on then Peter ;)
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West Indies 19-3 blimey...
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West Indies 19-3 blimey...
I turned over after 13 overs when they were still 22-3 - Chandapaul had scored 1 run off about 18 balls, Sarwan 4 off about 25.
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West Indies 19-3 blimey...
I turned over after 13 overs when they were still 22-3 - Chandapaul had scored 1 run off about 18 balls, Sarwan 4 off about 25.
55-3 off 22 overs......really wanted the WIndies to beat those cheating Pakistani's.
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Pakistan through quite easily then!
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Don't worry, Pakistan will chuck it in the final.
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Well I'm hoping England win it all but not confident. I said at the start I would settle for victory for Anyone But Australia, and I'm sticking with it.
COME ON INDIA!
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Don't worry, Pakistan will chuck it in the final.
do you want to bet against that?
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Breaking news on BBC Sport, Michael Yardy is coming home from the world cup as he's suffering from depression. Hope he's OK.
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Breaking news on BBC Sport, Michael Yardy is coming home from the world cup as he's suffering from depression. Hope he's OK.
Por sod, being away on tour and getting slagged for his performances is probably not the best environment for dealing with it.
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He may be a whinging moaning rat faced ******, but that was a fantastic century from Ponting. Although was lucky that India had no reviews left when he was on about 90, because he was plumb LBW.
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Come on India.
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I hope that India win mainly because of the mouthwatering prospect of an India - Pakistan semi final. That and the fact that I can't support the Crims, ever.
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261 to win for India, about 30/40 runs short I reckon but if the convicts bowl well...
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Rashid replaces Yardy in squad, bit of a bonus!
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Rashid replaces Yardy in squad, bit of a bonus!
Actually just realised why, so hope he recovers soon.
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Rashid replaces Yardy in squad, bit of a bonus!
Actually just realised why, so hope he recovers soon.
Indeed.
Not my favourite player but I wouldn't wish depression on anyone.
The Aussies need wickets and quick otherwise India should knock this off easily.
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Yardy certainly depressed me during this tournament.
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Well that was a bit of comedy running from India there!
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Australia unravelling, good stuff
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just 51 more to send the Crims packing.
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Almost there.
India v England in the final anyone?
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The ball hitting Brett Lee in the eye as he tries (and fails) to prevent a boundary isn't funny at all is it?
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The ball hitting Brett Lee in the eye as he tries (and fails) to prevent a boundary isn't funny at all is it?
;D
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India just tonked a six, it looks like it is all over.
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Cheerio, cheerio, cheerio...
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I echo that!!
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Great win for India, they look like the favourites to me!
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HAHAHAHA
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The ball hitting Brett Lee in the eye as he tries (and fails) to prevent a boundary isn't funny at all is it?
Of the current Ozzie squad, he's possibly the least deserving of a ball in the face. Certainly Smith, Johnson, Clarke, Ponting ahead of him.
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Rashid replaces Yardy in squad, bit of a bonus!
Actually just realised why, so hope he recovers soon.
Indeed.
Not my favourite player but I wouldn't wish depression on anyone.
Agreed. I hope he recovers fully & quickly. I also hope that he can return to the England side - as long as he can contribute something.
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The ball hitting Brett Lee in the eye as he tries (and fails) to prevent a boundary isn't funny at all is it?
Of the current Ozzie squad, he's possibly the least deserving of a ball in the face. Certainly Smith, Johnson, Clarke, Ponting ahead of him.
Yes, but he's still an Aussie.
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We've got an outsourced research team based in Delhi who I have daily calls with.
I couldn't get hold of them yesterday and they emailed me this morning, apologising because they all ran out of the office to watch the last few overs in a shop window.
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What a lucky wicket for New Zealand there.
Amla hits ball onto boot of the 'keeper which bounces up to first slip!
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Rashid replaces Yardy in squad, bit of a bonus!
Actually just realised why, so hope he recovers soon.
Indeed.
Not my favourite player but I wouldn't wish depression on anyone.
Agreed. I hope he recovers fully & quickly. I also hope that he can return to the England side - as long as he can contribute something.
Did anyone see Boycott's comments about this? He was doing the old bluff Yorkshireman routine and dismissing Yardy as not good enough (which may well be true) but was basically saying it'd never happen to him as he was always good enough to do his job. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Boycott have a "moment of madness" on a tour to India where he went AWOL and then said he'd gone for a walk in some interview which made him sound like a tit?
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South Africa doing their utmost to lose this. Which is good. Great chance for us if we can get past Sri lanka tomorrow.
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Chokers strike again..... SA have never won a knock out game in the cricket world cup
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Very interesting, New Zealand in the semi's for us or Sri Lanka. I really hope we turn up tomorrow.
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What a lucky wicket for New Zealand there.
Amla hits ball onto boot of the 'keeper which bounces up to first slip!
Class. What a great win for The Black Caps.
Will be great if England beat Sri Lanka and play NZ in the semi final.
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Rashid replaces Yardy in squad, bit of a bonus!
Actually just realised why, so hope he recovers soon.
Indeed.
Not my favourite player but I wouldn't wish depression on anyone.
Agreed. I hope he recovers fully & quickly. I also hope that he can return to the England side - as long as he can contribute something.
Did anyone see Boycott's comments about this? He was doing the old bluff Yorkshireman routine and dismissing Yardy as not good enough (which may well be true) but was basically saying it'd never happen to him as he was always good enough to do his job. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Boycott have a "moment of madness" on a tour to India where he went AWOL and then said he'd gone for a walk in some interview which made him sound like a tit?
Sir Geoff of Boycott walked off and was found playing golf after throwing his toys out of the pram.
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We have won the toss and will bat 1st, the team is unchanged and Bell to open.............Come on ENGLAND !!!!!!
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Muralitharan is going to go for some tap today. I've got a good feeling. We'll probably still lose though!
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The result may depend on how well we play their spinners, we need to keep knocking the singles and use our feet
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It might be the right decision, but I hate us batting first!
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I'm glad Strauss didn't lose his head there.
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We need Bell v the spinners and Strauss v the medium/quick bowlers
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I don't think there's any need in the sub continent to try and smash it out of the park in the first 10, we need to build a score. Look at around 250 ish I think.
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250 minimum I reckon, we need closer to 280 I think
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I'm not sure at the moment, initially it looks tough to score on.
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Strauss is looking edgy.......Bell looks good
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Strauss isn't having much fun against Dilshan.
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Strauss gone, oh dear.
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Strauss was mentally and literally destroyed by the Bowler
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We need a big score from one or ideally two of the top four.
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Bell gone, now we are in trouble.
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Bell gone now...........come on
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That's the last thing we needed.
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We need the middle order to do well now.
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As I said, I don't like us batting first.
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We need to remember New Zealand yesterday, they struggled. But they good some runs on the board and then bowled really well.
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Down to Trott, Bopara and Morgan
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I'm not sure if it's just England, but this pitch looks very tough to score on.
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Looks pretty slow
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England can make the flattest pitch look tough to score on!
Looks like a 250ish pitch to me but then again I know bugger all really!
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Ravi has the talent, but I worry about his running.
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bloody hell Bopara, reel it in a bit
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Hmm Bopara has a touch of the Strauss's about him here.
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what was that appeal about..........they should lose a review for that
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Review not out, but Bopara needs to sort himself out here.
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Struggled to 50............need 200 more now
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Better running, put pressure on the fielders.
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Struggled to 50............need 200 more now
230 would be enough on this pitch. I think Sri Lanka's bowling is much better than their batting.
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Struggled to 50............need 200 more now
230 would be enough on this pitch. I think Sri Lanka's bowling is much better than their batting.
Whatever happens we are going to have to bowl well, none of this throwing away about 50/60 runs in the first 6 overs.
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Murali straight after drinks, uh oh.
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And they've only now brought Murily into the attack!
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Problem is at some point we are going to need this run rate going. Sri Lanka do have a very long tail though.
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What is around Trott's neck?!
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Christ don't get fucking run out.
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What is around Trott's neck?!
It's be a towel soaked in cold water - he uses one a lot.
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What is around Trott's neck?!
It's be a towel soaked in cold water - he uses one a lot.
Ah thanks.
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Need to get this run rate moving a bit now, they've built a base.
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Need to get this run rate moving a bit now, they've built a base.
Agree, it's far too low as it stands.
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Bopara gone.
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pointless review........rubbish shot
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What a waste of a review - even I could see that was plum when it was being played in real time.
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Come on Morgan, big innings please.
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Morgan and Trott need to get us too 170/180
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Morgan and Trott need to get us too 170/180
We'll need more than that.
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Morgan and Trott need to get us too 170/180
We'll need more than that.
Yes but the others can have a slog then..........I dont want Prior/Wright coming in when we are 130 or so......
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Oh sorry misunderstood.
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Oh sorry misunderstood.
I didnt make it very clear sorry
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When was our last boundary?
We're going to have to bowl superbly here.
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We really need to put the foot down here or die wondering.
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Morgan hits the boundary
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Bloody hell Trotty just hit a four.
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Four from Morgan, this is better.
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Who'd have thought that by the end of the Quarter Finals that Trott would be the tournaments leading run scorer!
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Whisper it quietly but that was a better couple of overs and Trotty now leading scorer in World Cup
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Mendis is a frustrating bowler. He doesn't seem to do anything, he's a non spinning spinner.
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Morgan dropped........come on
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Morgan dropped, very good chance. Big let off.
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Well played 50 Trotty.
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Run rate is edging up now.
Trott has his 5th 50 of the tournament, impressive stuff.
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What is around Trott's neck?!
Responsibility sitting on hid shoulders.
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I reckon 230 odd would be good on this pitch.
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Morgan dropped........come on
Very crucial drop that ...for England
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Edge for four, good stuff.
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dare i mention the words........batting power play
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250 and we'l have a great chance, Sri Lanka haven't got a great batting order, the tail starts at six.
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Are there any links to this please ?
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Morgan got away with one there.
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I still can't believe Malinga's action is legal.
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Morgan dropped again!
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Morgan got away with one there and again..............
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Dropped for a third time!
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Morgan dropped again!
Again!
They obviously don't want to get him out.
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Murali is losing it............
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Bumble: "He's applauded it down to the floor."
And dropped again!
"Get a bucket!"
Marvellous.
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Someone ask Morgan what the lottery numbers are tonight - that's 4 chances!
And what was one of the commentators saying at the start about how good the Sri Lankan's were at fielding?
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4 for Morgan.
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Need to up the rate again here.
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Power play time, don't fuck this up England.
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Morgan gone, bloody powerplay.
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As soon as he broke his lucky bat you knew he was a gonner.
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Swanny bought up the order, could be a good move.
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Swann sent up, obviously to have a swing.
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Well played Swann, terrible.
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Swanny bought up the order, could be a good move.
Or not.
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what was that from Swann.........hit it down the ground
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You guys are about 30 seconds ahead of my TV for some reason - I read that he was out on here before I saw the delivery! (I'm watching on Virgin Media).
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Always down the ground against Mendis.
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Are there any links to this please ?
http://cjsportss.blogspot.com/index.html
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250 and we'l have a great chance, Sri Lanka haven't got a great batting order, the tail starts at six.
230 would be OK however appears tall order now.
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Are there any links to this please ?
http://cjsportss.blogspot.com/index.html
Cheers Aftab. Thank you.
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hmmm 220-230 maybe?
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Fucking hell Englad come on.
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Prior do something.
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Terrible end to the innings currently.
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Prior has been shocking.
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well played Trotty
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We really are shit a powerplays.
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Played Trott.
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9 balls left - just go out swinging.
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Prior is useless.....plays a good shot for 4 and then next ball he plays some premeditated useless reverse sweep
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Not a bad score overall.
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Ill take that........ if we bowl and field well and get early wickets we can win this, the pressure is all on them
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Decent score but not sure it will be enough.
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Need to bowl and field very well and let the pressure affect them.
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Prior drops Dilshan.
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Prior drops Dilshan.
Not sure there was any bat on that
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Prior drops Dilshan.
Not sure there was any bat on that
Maybe not.
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Fucking hell Bresnan, not short and wide.
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Oh dear.
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Dilshan got lucky there.
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Rubbish fielding Wright.
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Tremlett started well.
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We are in big trouble.
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Unless we can get 2/3 wickets in the next 5 overs I can't see this ending well.
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No, Dilshan is taking the game away from us, need wickets and quick.
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Although this is how it's gone in a lot of games we've won, the other team has got off the a flier and looked like it was in the bag and we've come back and won.
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This is like 1996
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How did Tremlett not get there.
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I reckon this is gone.
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This is depressingly simple for Sri Lanka.
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The one good thing is that I have a fiver on Sri Lanka for the tournament, 8/1 as well.
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Will someone please inform James Treadwell that he's not aiming at the side of a skip?
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At the moment it does not look good however when it breaks England need to get 2/3 wickets and than SL will struggle
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Get two wickets and they will start to crumble.
** Clutches at straws **
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The one good thing is that I have a fiver on Sri Lanka for the tournament, 8/1 as well.
No way SL will beat the winner of the other semi. I will have a fiver on that one with you.
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Could do with swanny taking a few here.
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Depends when you get those 2-3 wickets. Get them now, yes. Get them post 150, no.
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Miracle time needed.
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Shocking Prior.
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We're going out with a whimper.
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Bugger, I'm going to have to watch the football now.
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Bugger, I'm going to have to watch the football now.
Never fear, there's cycling on Eurosport.
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If I know Dave Cooper, he'll be watching "Biggest! Freshest! Loudest!" on Channel Lava.
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The Real Housewives of New York on Diva actually.
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I'm taping that. Don't spoil the ending for me.
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I'm taping that. Don't spoil the ending for me.
Gripping finish then ?
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Call me a pessimist, but I reckon we're underdogs.
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Pretty dire attempt to defend a target.
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Oh well, Homeward bound.
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Below par with the bat, horrific deficiencies against spin. Absolutely awful with the ball. Players who played today who shouldn't be anywhere near England ODI team in future - Prior, Wright, Tredwell.
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Well played Sri Lanka. Hope they win it now.
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Think NZ look good. But one of the home nations will win it methinks.
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Doubt it. Can't see England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland prevailing now.
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Seems like a waste of time beating West Indies now. Disappointing.
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I see Bob Willis just said Trott's innings was match losing.
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I see Bob Willis just said Trott's innings was match losing.
Then he's talking bollocks.
Every team needs one player to anchor the innings allowing players at the other end to play shots, none of the other players stepped up to the plate. If Trott hadn't hung around we'd have been all out for 150.
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I see Bob Willis just said Trott's innings was match losing.
Then he's talking bollocks.
Every team needs one player to anchor the innings allowing players at the other end to play shots, none of the other players stepped up to the plate. If Trott hadn't hung around we'd have been all out for 150.
I agree, it could have been quicker but without it we would have got nothing.
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I think I would blame the bowlers who got zero wickets between them before I blamed the top run-scorer in the tournament. You can tell Willis was a bowler!
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Willis is always unduly critical of Trott.
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Trott is the man of the winter as far as English cricket is concerned. Did everything he was asked to do and didn't make a fuss about it.
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As I said Sri Lanka's batting is not very good....... when faced with a world class attack.
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Trott is currently the leading run scorer in the World Cup, how anyone can criticise his performance is beyond me.
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Just got back and seen some highlights of England's game, all I hope is that we have learned from this winter and the amount of cricket we have played.
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Willis is always unduly critical of Trott.
He's never met a nice South African...
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Normally the front page of ESPN.com (main US site) has a photo of an NFL/NBA/MLB or college player.
Today it has this..........................
(http://a.espncdn.com/i/eticket/20110324/pg1/eticket_cricket_576.jpg)
Could cricket be starting to make an impact stateside ?
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Normally the front page of ESPN.com (main US site) has a photo of an NFL/NBA/MLB or college player.
Today it has this..........................
(http://a.espncdn.com/i/eticket/20110324/pg1/eticket_cricket_576.jpg)
Could cricket be starting to make an impact stateside ?
Blimey, ...can't help but chuckle though every time I think of the US public getting to grips with Cricket
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I hope so, I miss it like crazy... I think North Americans could go for the 20/20
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This is going to be a fantastic match up today.
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Aye. I was going to find a football match but I might just get some beers in and watch this all day.
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Wankhede stadium, snigger.
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India have come out of trap very well this morning. They look as though the pressure is not affecting them.
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Fantastic ton from Jayawardena. Hopefully Sachin will repeat it in the India innings.
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Great hitting at the end and a good total.
All set up for the Indian superstars with a Billion watching to chase down - that's some pressure.
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This could be very close, that six off the last ball could be vital.
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I'm going to be watching the Villa match on my laptop and the cricket on the TV.
What a fantastic way to spend the afternoon.
I don't care who wins the final, but I'd love it if Sachin got 100 and Murali got a 5fer, with Sachin as his last wicket.
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I'm going to be watching the Villa match on my laptop and the cricket on the TV.
What a fantastic way to spend the afternoon.
Got beer, got wine, even got a drop of malt, the wife is out shopping, absolutely great.
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What a start for Sri Lanka!
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The chucker get's one.
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He's got Sachin now!
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Interesting game this.
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Right to the wire this one I reckon.
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Big wicket there, come on Sri Lanka!
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Right, back to concentrating on this.
Sri Lanka need wickets, India will stroll a run a ball chase if not.
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What is happening with the bats in this tournament - never known so many break!
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Brilliant by India. I'm watching the players celebrate and I'm grinning! Fair play to them.
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Their name was on it.
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Great win for India, they deserved it
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Superb for India, fully deserved.
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Fair play to them, well done India
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Anyone know what went on at the toss? Looked a bit iffy to me.
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I heard Sangakkara saying that he didn't know which side was which, but the TV was saying they couldn't hear his call.
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I heard Sangakkara saying that he didn't know which side was which, but the TV was saying they couldn't hear his call.
He seemed to cope alright in all of the other games
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I think it was a different designed coin.
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Mumbai: The World Cup final ran into its first controversy before the first ball was bowled. The coin had to be tossed twice after the match referee Jeff Crowe said he had not heard Sri Lanka Kumara Sangakkara's call the first time. The Wankhede Stadium was not yet filled to its 33,000 capacity, and the noise was yet to reach its peak. Commentator Ravi Shastri, who was hosting the toss, said it had fallen heads the first time. There were then a few moments of confusion as Crowe said he had not heard the call and so the toss that had been carried out was null and void. The toss then had to be carried out a second time, and when MS Dhoni threw up the coin again, Sangakkara called 'heads' and the coin fell Sri Lanka's way.
Replays of the toss indicate decisively that Sangakkara called heads the first time as well, and the call is audible to the television producers. Sangakkara's head was down when he called heads. In the noise, Dhoni mis-heard it as a tails call, which was why he turned towards Shastri saying, "We'll bat". However neither Shastri nor Crowe had heard Sangakkara's call, Crowe due to the noise and Shastri because he was looking up at the coin. When Shastri looked across to Crowe, the referee said, "I didn't hear it." There was then a brief conversation and it was decided the toss had to be held again.
Crowe was also the match referee at the 2007 World Cup final when the teams went off for bad light but were to forced to return and play out the remaining overs in darkness. He had overseen a mistake by the officials that led to the game resuming in near total darkness. The officials had forgotten that, as 20 overs had been bowled in the second innings, a result could be declared. Crowe, when pressed at a post-match news conference, blamed that error on now retired South African umpire Rudi Koertzen, who was the television replay official for that match.
Linky (http://www.ndtv.com/article/sports-news/world-cup-final-coin-tossed-twice-95901?cp)
It was the Sky commentators who mentioned something about not knowing what was heads or tails.
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Tossing Controversy at the Wankhede Stadium.....brilliant
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The two teams in the final were the two best teams, much like the twenty20 World Cup. So even though the tournament dragged out, it did produce the right final.
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World Cup 2015 cut to ten teams, just the test nations. Not very good for the development of the game. If assiociate nations play crap then everyone says 'it's a waste of time having them in'. If they do well, like Ireland have done at the last two competitions, they say "don't knock out the big nations, we'll lose money!". So they can't win either way.
16 teams in 4 groups of 4 is the way forward. If the big teams get knocked out, tough.
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World Cup 2015 cut to ten teams, just the test nations. Not very good for the development of the game. If assiociate nations play crap then everyone says 'it's a waste of time having them in'. If they do well, like Ireland have done at the last two competitions, they say "don't knock out the big nations, we'll lose money!". So they can't win either way.
16 teams in 4 groups of 4 is the way forward. If the big teams get knocked out, tough.
Another great decision by the old farts in charge of sport.
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Like you say, 16 teams in groups of 4 would be the way to go. Play each team once and then top 2 qualify for the quarter finals.
That way you have the 10 test nations, plus the likes of Ireland, Kenya, Afghanistan (who I think will be a key cricketing nation in the coming years) etc get experience and helps the game expand.
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It's wrong on so many levels, not least of which is that it will stifle the development of Ireland and similar nations at one day level.
Ireland have produced some great players and with the right level of investment/development will easily match Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.
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I'd also like to see the ICC stop this criss-crossing of nations that goes on. Ok, we may have benefited with Morgan, but once you've played for one nation that should be it.