Players Who Simply Aren’t Good Enough

[dave.woodhall]

Part of the art of management must be getting more out of what you inherit. All the successful managers we've had in my lifetime have achieved it. Brian Little was perhaps the best example - players such as Bosnich, Ugo, Townsend and Yorke were either struggling or in the reserves when he arrived.

[RamboandBruno]

Part of the art of management must be getting more out of what you inherit. All the successful managers we've had in my lifetime have achieved it. Brian Little was perhaps the best example - players such as Bosnich, Ugo, Townsend and Yorke were either struggling or in the reserves when he arrived.

Completely agree with this and to a certain extent its what Howe has done for the last year at Newcastle, added some important players (Botman, Trippier, Guimares) but helped make some other players have more self belief and improve.

[pauliewalnuts]

Part of the art of management must be getting more out of what you inherit. All the successful managers we've had in my lifetime have achieved it. Brian Little was perhaps the best example - players such as Bosnich, Ugo, Townsend and Yorke were either struggling or in the reserves when he arrived.

Absolutely, the end result of that is getting a team that looks like more than the sum of its parts.

We specialise in the opposite of that.

[LeeB]

Emery likes to play a passing game doesn't he? Keeping it simple, side to side if necessary to frustrate the opposition. Well if that's right we do have an issue or two. Konsa as an example shits himself in possession, though a good defender, he could struggle. McGinn right now is woeful in possession too.

I'd expect to see Chambers in, and who knows in midfield.

It's not just that, it's his defending too, far too often he stands off his man and hesitates.

[ASHTONVILLA]

It is tempting to list most of them, given successive managers have failed to get a tune out the squad. However there are some players that have shown sporadic periods of excellent form:

Watkins - good first season.
Mings - good enough to get into the England squad last season.
Konsa - Good first season.
Ramsey - good half a season last year.
Ings - Good for Southampton.
Buendia - Good for Norwich.
Coutinho - Good enough for Bayern and Barca.
Cash - don'tm rate hime but might improve.
Digne - Good for Everton.

I reckon half of then will end up being good for Emery, and half will still be dirge. Anyones guess which half.

Then we have jury's out players, that may do better with a chance in the team - Sanson, Guilbert, and promissing young players like Archer, Davis, Philogene Bidace, Ramsey, KKH etc. 2-3 of these will end up regulars in Emerys team.

Then we have the only player of any consistent quality - Martinez.

We need at least 4 good quality signings, and to shift out 7-10 players over the next 2 seasons. It is a big job.

[RamboandBruno]

Emery likes to play a passing game doesn't he? Keeping it simple, side to side if necessary to frustrate the opposition. Well if that's right we do have an issue or two. Konsa as an example shits himself in possession, though a good defender, he could struggle. McGinn right now is woeful in possession too.

I'd expect to see Chambers in, and who knows in midfield.

It's not just that, it's his defending too, far too often he stands off his man and hesitates.

I do wonder with Konsa, whether the influence of no crowds and also John Terry during 2020/2021, was a combined major factor in his really high level of performances that season. It seems to me his performances for most of last season and this season so far are very similar when he first signed from Brentford as a prospect, rather than the finished article. That one season is starting to now stand out as an exception rather than rule.
Hopefully he can kick on under Emery, or he might be one moving on in the summer.

[pauliewalnuts]

Emery is not going to rate Konsa given his lack of quality with the ball.

Chambers, on the other hand, is excellent with it, and for me the most obvious change we'll see is going to be him in for Konsa.

[LeonW]

This will be the third (and most experienced) manager many of these players have had at Villa. If they don’t do it under Emery, it’s simply because they’re not good enough. There’s certainly nowhere for them to hide now.

[Ger Regan]

Emery is not going to rate Konsa given his lack of quality with the ball.

Chambers, on the other hand, is excellent with it, and for me the most obvious change we'll see is going to be him in for Konsa.

I really don't get why bednarek was getting on ahead of Chambers. He never let us down last season.

Cash is a liability, we need someone with more quality on the right and Buendia, while i like his tenacity, shouldn't be a guaranteed starter, he's only effective in certain types of games. I wouldn't mind seeing Ramsey in that 10 poisition to see what he can do. Big transfer window ahead of us, hopefully.

[Dante Lavelli]

It is tempting to list most of them, given successive managers have failed to get a tune out the squad. However there are some players that have shown sporadic periods of excellent form:

Watkins - good first season.
Mings - good enough to get into the England squad last season.
Konsa - Good first season.
Ramsey - good half a season last year.
Ings - Good for Southampton.
Buendia - Good for Norwich.
Coutinho - Good enough for Bayern and Barca.
Cash - don'tm rate hime but might improve.
Digne - Good for Everton.

I reckon half of then will end up being good for Emery, and half will still be dirge. Anyones guess which half.

Then we have jury's out players, that may do better with a chance in the team - Sanson, Guilbert, and promissing young players like Archer, Davis, Philogene Bidace, Ramsey, KKH etc. 2-3 of these will end up regulars in Emerys team.

Then we have the only player of any consistent quality - Martinez.

We need at least 4 good quality signings, and to shift out 7-10 players over the next 2 seasons. It is a big job.

I tend to agree and also think that we cannot get rid of them all at once.  I’d let the market decide, sell players where we receive decent offers and keep the others.  We already have a big squad so we need to recuperate some players whilst creating space for new signings.

[ChicagoLion]

It is tempting to list most of them, given successive managers have failed to get a tune out the squad. However there are some players that have shown sporadic periods of excellent form:

Watkins - good first season.
Mings - good enough to get into the England squad last season.
Konsa - Good first season.
Ramsey - good half a season last year.
Ings - Good for Southampton.
Buendia - Good for Norwich.
Coutinho - Good enough for Bayern and Barca.
Cash - don'tm rate hime but might improve.
Digne - Good for Everton.

I reckon half of then will end up being good for Emery, and half will still be dirge. Anyones guess which half.

Then we have jury's out players, that may do better with a chance in the team - Sanson, Guilbert, and promissing young players like Archer, Davis, Philogene Bidace, Ramsey, KKH etc. 2-3 of these will end up regulars in Emerys team.

Then we have the only player of any consistent quality - Martinez.

We need at least 4 good quality signings, and to shift out 7-10 players over the next 2 seasons. It is a big job.

I tend to agree and also think that we cannot get rid of them all at once.  I’d let the market decide, sell players where we receive decent offers and keep the others.  We already have a big squad so we need to recuperate some players whilst creating space for new signings.

The market would buy our decent ones and leave us the poor ones.

[RamboandBruno]

Emery is not going to rate Konsa given his lack of quality with the ball.

Chambers, on the other hand, is excellent with it, and for me the most obvious change we'll see is going to be him in for Konsa.

I really don't get why bednarek was getting on ahead of Chambers. He never let us down last season.

Cash is a liability, we need someone with more quality on the right and Buendia, while i like his tenacity, shouldn't be a guaranteed starter, he's only effective in certain types of games. I wouldn't mind seeing Ramsey in that 10 poisition to see what he can do. Big transfer window ahead of us, hopefully.

Beundia hasn’t been a gaurenteed starter in his whole time at the club. We’re in danger of writing him off when he hasnt had a run of more than a couple of starts at a time.

[Risso]

Beundia hasn’t been a gaurenteed starter in his whole time at the club. We’re in danger of writing him off when he hasnt had a run of more than a couple of starts at a time.

Yesterday gave a strong hint why he probably hasn't been starting very often. He's very easily dispossessed and has no pace at all. His passing was really sloppy too.

[LeonW]

Beundia hasn’t been a gaurenteed starter in his whole time at the club. We’re in danger of writing him off when he hasnt had a run of more than a couple of starts at a time.

Yesterday gave a strong hint why he probably hasn't been starting very often. He's very easily dispossessed and has no pace at all. His passing was really sloppy too.

I think fitness is an issue for a number of players who have barely started this season or indeed for a number of months earlier this year. Buendia is one.

[RamboandBruno]

I struggle to get tickets for away games, other than cup games, so can only comment on what I’ve seen at Villa Park, and Beundia has usually been one of the only bright sparks in a generally dire year.