Players Who Simply Aren’t Good Enough

[langleylions]

please tell me then when will one of our managers make our players better cuz we seem to always buy so called quality players and always make them shit !!

[RamboandBruno]

please tell me then when will one of our managers make our players better cuz we seem to always buy so called quality players and always make them shit !!

Smith helped to make Grealish better.

I also would of thought this one of the reasons we’ve appointed Emery.

[PeterWithesShin]

Almiron is 29 in a few months and has gone from a laughing stock for years to one of the most in form players in the league. Joelinton is younger but the same applies. While some players just aren't good enough, others are but it doesn't show much until good managers and coaches work with them.

Go back a year or so, how many of the Newcastle side would anyone want us to sign? Saint-Maximim is about it. Even the players they have signed, Guimares and possibly Isak and Botman are the only stand outs that i'd probably have wanted us to sign.

[hilts_coolerking]

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[PeterWithesShin]

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I'll wait and see what ours look like well coached first, thanks.

[hilts_coolerking]

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I'll wait and see what ours look like well coached first, thanks.

How long would you give them?  Or would Emery would give them?

[PeterWithesShin]

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I'll wait and see what ours look like well coached first, thanks.

How long would you give them?  Or would Emery would give them?

What?

[langleylions]

what !! anybody with a brain could see grealish was quality , ...we sign player aftr player after player and they never live up to there rep , danny ings ...supposed netter for everybody else ..comes to us and im 55 and move quicker than him ffs

[hilts_coolerking]

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I'll wait and see what ours look like well coached first, thanks.

How long would you give them?  Or would Emery would give them?

What?

How long will you wait to see?

[PeterWithesShin]

Considering we have 2 months until we can sign anyone, what's the rush?

[hilts_coolerking]

Yes, I guess by January he'll be able to tell.

[Legion]

fuckin all ov them !!

Seriously? Every one?

[RamboandBruno]

what !! anybody with a brain could see grealish was quality , ...we sign player aftr player after player and they never live up to there rep , danny ings ...supposed netter for everybody else ..comes to us and im 55 and move quicker than him ffs

I have a brain and a season ticket for as long as i can remember and until Smith started working with him i thought Grealish mostly flattered to deceive. Pretty pointless debate now though so i wish i hadn’t opened up that can of worms.

I thought Watkins was mostly good for his first season with us, i thought Konsa was mostly fantastic for his second season with us, Luiz is better now than when we signed him, JJ has been good in patches. The problem that has been highlighted by several posters is that we’ve had a largely wasted year with a manager that as time went on was clearly not up to the job and players that have mostly got worse on his watch through a complete lack of structure and tactical nous.

Time will tell whether with proper coaching with an elite manager whether all of the players perform better, or whether some doo and some others need to be moved on slowly but surely. My guess would be the latter.

[Risso]

Well let's hope Emery hits the ground running and the players respond quickly. Next few league games are Man U at home, Brighton away, Liverpool at home and Spurs away. At the moment it's a bit hard to see where many points are coming from in that run. After that it's four games that could be pvotal in the relegation shake up, with matches against Wolves, Leeds, Southampton and Leicester.

[SoccerHQ]

Ramsey is someone who I expect to improve again under Emery. He was playing some excellent football in Gerrard's first few months. Then lost a bit of form and should've been rested but in Gerrard's mind he instead continued to play every single minute of every game.

I'd like to think Emery will refine parts of his game in and out of possession and also know when to sub him/rest him and hopefully he'll be off again as he showed last season he had excellent close control and can get in the box and score.

Archer will surely get some proper chances and actual starts in next two months so see what he makes of that.

Sanson aswell although probably more as sub given Kamara-Luiz is the obvious duo to play infront of the back 4.

Beyond that I get people's frustrations with Bailey and Bunedia after today but we've had 12 months of them being in and out of the 11 for various reasons.

They both need a run of 10 starts together which I'd hope would be the plan. The guys at Newcastle got the chance to bed in as units and now that team looks like it's been playing together for years.

Buendia has a poor game and then gets benched for Coutinho for a month so that won't be happening under this manager.