Players Who Simply Aren’t Good Enough

[Risso]

Archer will surely get some proper chances and actual starts in next two months so see what he makes of that.

We've only got three games in the next two months, so would think Emery will be looking more at Ings and Watkins in those games.

[SoccerHQ]

Archer will surely get some proper chances and actual starts in next two months so see what he makes of that.

We've only got three games in the next two months, so would think Emery will be looking more at Ings and Watkins in those games.

I'd start Archer in the cup at Man. United. He scored in similar circumstances at Chelsea last season so don't think it would faze him.

Him and Ings dropping a little deeper could work, no more Watkins for next two weeks please other than coming on for last 20 minutes.

[ROBBO]

where do you start, first fitness, the commentator said that Newcastle looked far fitter than our players, I read somewhere that our players run less than any other prem side. Then game management, I thought as he was only going to coach the side for a couple of games he would be adventurous and make changes as needed, but he turned out to be a copy of Gerrard.
Many have pointed out that Newcastle have many in their side that were written off but Howe has turned them around. I hope by Christmas he will know who he wants to keep.

[LeonW]

Let Emery assess them for the remainder of this season. They’ve not had a competent manager for awhile. Some might surprise. Some of these players have played well elsewhere and they’ve played well here.

[ChicagoLion]

Archer will surely get some proper chances and actual starts in next two months so see what he makes of that.

We've only got three games in the next two months, so would think Emery will be looking more at Ings and Watkins in those games.

Yep, he is duty bound to play them but we can only hope it’s one at a time.

[Rory]

Well let's hope Emery hits the ground running and the players respond quickly. Next few league games are Man U at home, Brighton away, Liverpool at home and Spurs away. At the moment it's a bit hard to see where many points are coming from in that run. After that it's four games that could be pvotal in the relegation shake up, with matches against Wolves, Leeds, Southampton and Leicester.

You just never know with a new manager. A tiny superficial change can see an improvement, or a new way of working can make things worse. I really hope, now that we have a manager of undeniable pedigree, that we the fans stick with him.

Back around February/March, Gerrard won me over, but naturally that was for a finite number of games, and eventually he undid all of that. There was the unfortunate sense that he engineered a situation where it became him vs the squad, specifically Mings, and frankly, I preferred Mings, because he's done more for Aston Villa than Gerrard ever will.

Emery feels like a watershed appointment. Any player he doesn't want or get on with - whether it be Mings, McGinn, Coutinho, Martinez, whoever - he has my support, because his record gives him that luxury.

We potentially have a 'legacy' manager; a guy who could spend a decade here and transform the club. So I will trust his judgement.

[ROBBO]

Someone needs to tell the players some home truths the first being for nearly all of them Villa is as good as it gets, fail at this club then you are destined for the championship or lower.

[Clark W Griswold]

In terms of being good enough to see us climb the league into the top half over the next 12 months, of the regular starters the only one i'm outrightly sure isn't good enough and should be out of the team from next week onwards is Konsa. Chambers has looked better when he's had the chance, i have no idea why he's not playing. He was probably the most promising young centre back we've had since the 90s when he came into the team in 19-20 so i just don't know what has happened. Otherwise, i'm still waiting for Mings to find some real consistancy, if he can't then Carlos has to replace him and get his chance once fit. McGinn needs to play in the 8 role or not at all. If someone is a better bet for that role, i.e Ramsey, Luiz or a new signing then he gets replaced. Watkins is another doubt, he works hard and if we're going to press from the front he could be useful for that and it would be interesting to see what he's like again if we can keep the ball up there for longer periods but i'm thinking we most likely need to upgrade. Ings is a clever, decent player but still just seems to struggle to fit the system for the most part. Buendia is one i've almost given up completely with (like Konsa). Sure, he's tidy, but he's pretty much completely ineffective and he's like little boy lost out there most of the time. Coutinho i'm praying will come good again like in his first couple of months but i'm not hopeful. Jury is out still also on Bailey, Digne, Dendonker (very early days with him though), and Ramsey. Luiz struggles against the good teams in the defensive mid role, but could be good further up. Young is probably in his last season. Cash (usually) looks good enough and Martinez definitely is. Sanson, fuck knows what's happened there but it really isn't going to happen is it?

[OzVilla]

We’ve spent most of this season with a first choice 4 midfielders that cost £19.5 mill between them. Only Kamara has looked good enough for a Top 10 side.

We’ve spent £50 mill on 2 strikers that are no where near giving us that return back and that’s before we even get to Bailey and Buendia.

How Lange isn’t under more scrutiny baffles me.

To the OP, all bar Martinez, Kamara, Carlos (because we don’t know yet), Cash and Luiz. The rest are totally expendable. 

[Clive W]

Can anyone provide the statistics that show how many times we manage to win (or even draw) after conceding the first goal?

My feeling is that, since the giddy heights of the MON years, the number of times we have achieved this is very low; possibly the worst in the league

For years we have lacked mental strength and resolve

This is not down to Gerrard - although he failed to improve it during his time

How many times on the match thread, when we concede first, is one of the first comments “that’s it - game over”?

[aj2k77]

The majority of these players have contributed to us losing 37 of our last 75 league games. They can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned. Soft as dog shit the lot of them. Look at the goals yesterday, how many were built up from 50/50's we lost as they barged through us. Really weak.

[ez]

The majority of these players have contributed to us losing 37 of our last 75 league games. They can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned. Soft as dog shit the lot of them. Look at the goals yesterday, how many were built up from 50/50's we lost as they barged through us. Really weak.

It's a fair comment. How long have we been waiting for them to gel. It's not happening.

[RamboandBruno]

The majority of these players have contributed to us losing 37 of our last 75 league games. They can all fuck off as far as I'm concerned. Soft as dog shit the lot of them. Look at the goals yesterday, how many were built up from 50/50's we lost as they barged through us. Really weak.

But its quite clearly not going to happen, you can’t just get rid of half a team or more. The new manager will largely have to work with what he’s got apart from maybe a couple of additions in January.
Again, whilst some of the players will no doubt be moved on or fall down the pecking order by the beginning of next season, i would guess at least half if not more of this team will still be first choice.
We’re going to have to give the manager time and patience to turn things around with a good percentage of the players there now.

[Drummond]

Emery likes to play a passing game doesn't he? Keeping it simple, side to side if necessary to frustrate the opposition. Well if that's right we do have an issue or two. Konsa as an example shits himself in possession, though a good defender, he could struggle. McGinn right now is woeful in possession too.

I'd expect to see Chambers in, and who knows in midfield.

[itmustbe_it is!]

Let Emery assess them for the remainder of this season. They’ve not had a competent manager for awhile. Some might surprise. Some of these players have played well elsewhere and they’ve played well here.

Agree