The only decision they had a right to moan about was Bailey not getting booked for kicking the ball away, but it's the sort of thing, rightly or wrongly, you often get away with early on.After the red card, which was indisputable, he was fairly generous to Leeds and could easily have shown a few more cards. Koch didn't get booked till his third of fourth borderline yellow card foul, for instance.
My god ,the only decent game plan we seem to have, is the time wasting to break up their momentum. give us a break
It was a terrible game of football but one we should have won. If you’re feeling generous you could describe it as a battling point at a difficult place to visit, if not then it’s points dropped due to poor finishing. At the moment Gerrard is achieving the bare minimum to keep his job but it just moves the pressure to the next game.
Quote from: Chris Smith on October 03, 2022, 10:38:18 AMIt was a terrible game of football but one we should have won. If you’re feeling generous you could describe it as a battling point at a difficult place to visit, if not then it’s points dropped due to poor finishing. At the moment Gerrard is achieving the bare minimum to keep his job but it just moves the pressure to the next game.Agree, and it goes one of 2 ways, he either discovers how to set the team up to get the best out of the resources we have or eventually the owners will make a decision.McLeish and Lambert were allowed way too much time to persist with this strategy.
To be fair to Gerrard, having Carlos, Digne, Cash, Kamara and then Augustinsson all out injured it means the midfield maybe should do more to help defend. However, letting Guilbert rot and taking the captaincy away from Mings hasn't helped either.It's a bit of a mess.
Quote from: Drummond on October 03, 2022, 10:48:11 AMTo be fair to Gerrard, having Carlos, Digne, Cash, Kamara and then Augustinsson all out injured it means the midfield maybe should do more to help defend. However, letting Guilbert rot and taking the captaincy away from Mings hasn't helped either.It's a bit of a mess.You could argue that although it could have been handled better, taking the captaincy from Mings is one thing that HAS worked. His form has been miles better since.
Quote from: steamer on October 02, 2022, 07:07:23 PMIs this all down the manager ?There are players out there that have to do their jobI have come to a belated conviction that Watkins is not the answer, nor Ings although 10 mins is harsh to expect a returnMidfield that creates fuck allSpoilt I guess watching De Bruyne et al earliert's very hard to judge in my opinion. Yes we missed some chances (personally I thought the Konsa one was the worst of the lot) but a big part of why we don't do better with our chances is that too foten we give teams time to get back into decent positions which makes the chances far harder. For me that's where better management and coaching has an impact, our attacking play is slow because the player on the ball is waiting to know who is going to run, etc. A better coached team knows those runs before they happen and that gives them half a second more to take advantage. It's all about the fine margins to know who is a good or bad manager but I think the stupid money in the premier league has blinded a lot of people to that so the answer is always to buy another player to solve the problem for you instead of actually putting the work in.
Is this all down the manager ?There are players out there that have to do their jobI have come to a belated conviction that Watkins is not the answer, nor Ings although 10 mins is harsh to expect a returnMidfield that creates fuck allSpoilt I guess watching De Bruyne et al earlier
Quote from: Risso on October 03, 2022, 11:05:14 AMQuote from: Drummond on October 03, 2022, 10:48:11 AMTo be fair to Gerrard, having Carlos, Digne, Cash, Kamara and then Augustinsson all out injured it means the midfield maybe should do more to help defend. However, letting Guilbert rot and taking the captaincy away from Mings hasn't helped either.It's a bit of a mess.You could argue that although it could have been handled better, taking the captaincy from Mings is one thing that HAS worked. His form has been miles better since.The problem was making McGinn captain. He would have probably been better off giving it to Martinez. While you wouldn't normally associate goalkeepers as being captains, it shouldn't have been a negative and would have allowed us to drop McGinn on the basis of form without it becoming a big issue.