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Offline Richard E

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2022, 07:17:04 PM »
Sounds like it’s been kicking off on a train back to New Street.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #61 on: April 02, 2022, 07:20:34 PM »
What has happened since that vibrant, dominant performance at Leeds? It looks a completely different team now! We moved the ball quickly at Leeds and they couldn't cope. Baffled!
Er….because we were playing Leeds.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #62 on: April 02, 2022, 07:20:56 PM »
I’ve said this before but all Gerrard needs to do is look at a couple of videos as to how we played when he first arrived. We need to press high up the pitch and move the ball far quicker from the back. Invariably, we make sideways and backwards passes so often that it’s so easy for the opposition to get back to their defensive shape. Even then, one of our midfielders gives the ball away and we are under pressure again. Come on Steven, football is not rocket science so please put the tablet away and concentrate on what’s going on, on the pitch, and make changes far quicker when you need to.
Isnt that the new manager bounce though?  Im not saying that to put down SG - I'm sure I read it somewhere that the increase in ground covered is a big part of the new manager is a bounce. 

Players run a bit more etc to impress the manager, and have faith in trying something new rather than the failed things the previous manager did.

I wonder if some of this is because we have nothing to play for, and I think a number of players know they wont be there next season.  (Maybe Konsa, Watkins, Luiz)

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #63 on: April 02, 2022, 07:25:31 PM »
They have conceded 15 goals less than us this season
Watching today you can see why, they have a structure in front of a very good goalkeeper
We fuck around between defence and midfield in front of a very good goalkeeper
I hope that SG has a plan and knows the style and brand of football he wants played, I also hope that he knows who fits that bill
there are clearly 4 or 5 in this  team who either  do not resonate with the plan or are incapable of effecting it
or has he and his team not been able to not been able to motivate/instill the desire or plan into the team ?
I can see quite a few moving on this summer and frankly i don't care.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #64 on: April 02, 2022, 07:25:32 PM »
We’re such a bloody soft touch, so utterly frustrating. Lots to do to progress beyond our lower mid table position but the answer can’t always be to buy more players.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #65 on: April 02, 2022, 07:31:32 PM »
We finished that relegation battle with only a point less than what we've got now and I really can't see us picking up too many more so we've definitely gone backwards from last season. The quality of the league is worse this season I would say.
For f**ks sake there are 8 games left to play, and you think we are “definitely” going backwards because we will probably lose them all. Motivational.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #66 on: April 02, 2022, 07:32:22 PM »
Hate this season - cant wait for it to be over.

After 3 great seasons under NSWE, were going backwards for the first time.

Our transfer activity over the last 3 windows have been poor - and I wouldnt be suprised at all to see lange go.  Both managers have been badly let down for us failing to get in a better midfielder - and there is a real possibility that will end up costing both managers there job

Gerrard is out of his depth, needs to show a lot of learning between now and the end of the season, otherwise if I was the owners I would laugh him off, and go all out to bring a truely great manager in.

Sounds harsh, but otherwise well just have another clear out and the teams above will continue to improve, and well be overtaken by others and he'll still be gone by this time next year.

With our run in, theres a very real chance well finish 12 or below - which is really disapointing.
If you think Gerrard will be binned you're deluded

Absolutely deluded. And an exaggeration about the last 3 windows, despite the past 3 games, Coutinhio and Digne not good signings?

I dont particularly like mid table seasons and its a bit meh, can we draw a line under it and start again, but if you hate this season how did you cope two seasons ago when were utter dirge and just about escaped from relegation.
Its all disappointing but a bit of perspective is needed i think.

Two years ago we were glad to be in the Premier League, we were still on the up and success was inevitable. Now there's a feeling that the new owner bounce is over and everything seems flat.

I get that Dave and i get we’ve lost the Grealish and Smith factor. But when we were getting hammered at home 1-6 to Man City, losing a last minute goal to Spurs or the utter shambles that was Leicester away, there was lots of talk on here about how we’d cope back in the championship financially and without Grealish, Mings, McGinn etc, it definitely wasn’t all optimism and instead it was talk of the disaster relegation would be.
We havent progressed this year and it feels like we’ve gone backwards because of the football we were playing prior to xmas 2020 in comparison to now. But i think the reality is we’ve stalled rather than slide backwards. Its been a stop start season and maybe it was always going to be after losing such a iconic player, and if nothing else mid table is dull, so itll be good when its done and we can start moving a few players on who have been good for us, but will never make us any better than we are now.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #67 on: April 02, 2022, 07:33:37 PM »
We’re such a bloody soft touch, so utterly frustrating. Lots to do to progress beyond our lower mid table position but the answer can’t always be to buy more players.
huge overhauls and new managers can't always be the answer. We need better coaching and tactics. Hopefully Gerrard will have some answers after a pre-season with the players that don't get shipped out and some new ones that come in.
I'd be happy seeing some of the younger players getting a run out now for the remainder of the season

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #68 on: April 02, 2022, 07:34:43 PM »
Best case is summer 95
Worst case is summer 15

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #69 on: April 02, 2022, 07:38:06 PM »
Still raging. No urgency or passion. Shocking.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #70 on: April 02, 2022, 07:43:26 PM »
Hate this season - cant wait for it to be over.

After 3 great seasons under NSWE, were going backwards for the first time.

Our transfer activity over the last 3 windows have been poor - and I wouldnt be suprised at all to see lange go.  Both managers have been badly let down for us failing to get in a better midfielder - and there is a real possibility that will end up costing both managers there job

Gerrard is out of his depth, needs to show a lot of learning between now and the end of the season, otherwise if I was the owners I would laugh him off, and go all out to bring a truely great manager in.

Sounds harsh, but otherwise well just have another clear out and the teams above will continue to improve, and well be overtaken by others and he'll still be gone by this time next year.

With our run in, theres a very real chance well finish 12 or below - which is really disapointing.
If you think Gerrard will be binned you're deluded

Absolutely deluded. And an exaggeration about the last 3 windows, despite the past 3 games, Coutinhio and Digne not good signings?

I dont particularly like mid table seasons and its a bit meh, can we draw a line under it and start again, but if you hate this season how did you cope two seasons ago when were utter dirge and just about escaped from relegation.
Its all disappointing but a bit of perspective is needed i think.

Two years ago we were glad to be in the Premier League, we were still on the up and success was inevitable. Now there's a feeling that the new owner bounce is over and everything seems flat.

I get that Dave and i get we’ve lost the Grealish and Smith factor. But when we were getting hammered at home 1-6 to Man City, losing a last minute goal to Spurs or the utter shambles that was Leicester away, there was lots of talk on here about how we’d cope back in the championship financially and without Grealish, Mings, McGinn etc, it definitely wasn’t all optimism and instead it was talk of the disaster relegation would be.
We havent progressed this year and it feels like we’ve gone backwards because of the football we were playing prior to xmas 2020 in comparison to now. But i think the reality is we’ve stalled rather than slide backwards. Its been a stop start season and maybe it was always going to be after losing such a iconic player, and if nothing else mid table is dull, so itll be good when its done and we can start moving a few players on who have been good for us, but will never make us any better than we are now.
I think I agree with that, but I would say we have slide backwords.  We beat Arsenal x 2, Liverpool, Spurs, Wolves and Chealsea last season - they felt within reach - they dont now.  You have to assume that these teams will be looking to improve in the summer.

I think the reason I feel so negative is I dont think the formation we play will ever work in the premership.  So whatever we do in that respect in the summer will be risky as all it will do is make use less bad at playing a flawed system

I thought that SG was onto something with the diamond and two upfront - as we looked like we know what we were going but since then we have been shite

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #71 on: April 02, 2022, 07:44:05 PM »
A bit of ambition/action in last 10 mins and seems like we tried
Absolute lack of ambition,passion and quality in the previous 80

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #72 on: April 02, 2022, 07:46:01 PM »
First away game for some while

Wolves fans seem obsessed with us. Strange that some of our lot seemed more interested in baiting them back than watching the game. Odd

Atmosphere seemed quiet from the outset. Little singing from us. Never seen a goal so little celebrated from us including me

They are v organised and difficult to break down. They didn’t need to play well to beat us.

Poor performance from us. Too slow and ponderous and not obvious what the game plan was. Everything seems to go through Ty from the back and it just doesn’t work.

The team needs breaking up. Several, probably 3 or 4 of the team need to be moved on. It need shaking up big time. I’d sell 4 of Ollie, Ings, Doug, Cash, SJM. Squad players need to be moved in as well. Basically a major rebuild to raise cash. We won’t get better with this squad. Maybe some know they are leaving and is reflected in the last 3 defeats.

As others have said it feels like a wasted season. I can’t wait for it to finish tbh



Young was poor today but pass of the game for Ollie’s miss


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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #73 on: April 02, 2022, 07:54:43 PM »
A lot of the problems from last season are still there, mainly:

* that we don’t tend to get anything from a game when the opposition score first.
* we always seem to get punished for our mistakes but rarely seem to punish the opposition for theirs.
* the midfield balance is a problem.

Improved coaching and tactics can help to a certain extent but a major overhaul will be required to get the players to play SG’s system - more than we would have needed to make if we’d have got a manager closer to the style and tactical set up of DS. That being the case, it’s a major leap for the owners to spend a shed load for SG. They either have to go all in and believe in him and what he’s trying to do or they get rid. It can’t be in the middle, otherwise he’ll be out in the future sure enough and we’ll have wasted more time and resources with our better players inevitably leaving.

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Re: Wolverhampton Wanderers vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2022, 07:54:49 PM »
Ollie scores after 60 minutes we win. When he broke away I felt exactly how I did when Agbonlahor used to break one on one with the keeper.

 


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