Villa Park Redevelopment

[Percy McCarthy]

Things could be better. We could have a 70k stadium in town. But for now I’m all for this development. If they can recreate the Witton Arms atmosphere with 3,500 people it will be quite something. People go on about the tailgate parties in American sport and how hard it would be to recreate them over here with our weather. This could be the British version. Hopefully it will catch on and the surrounding pubs will still do well if more and more people spend their pre- and post-match money in the area. The match-day experience has changed a lot since all the young dudes spent that time looking for a row, this could be almost as much fun and more socially acceptable. I think it will be a great success, and I say that as someone who does no more than buy a Twirl from Tescos.

Longer term, I’ll be honest - I want us to attract as many mugs as anybody else paying ridiculous sums for five-course meals and padded seats  if that’s what we need to give wheelbarrows full of money to players like Duran, Kamara, Rogers and Martinez.

[dave.woodhall]

Not for the first time I agree with Percy.

[pauliewalnuts]

Their owners own the new Co-op live one that had since teething issues but that's 20k ish capacity I think.

Sorry, the Oak View Group (OVG) own Co-op Live and it has a 23.5 K capacity. Been there twice and a big improvement on the AO Arena in Manchester - Even a Co-op local shop inside to get reasonably priced sandwiches, drinks etc.

Co-owned by City's owners.

[pauliewalnuts]

It is pretty clear from these plans that the North Stand is going nowhere any time soon, so I wonder if they might at least do something with the facade?

It's one thing sprucing up the area behind and it creating an, ahem *checks notes* world class social and sporting venue there, but how about a bit of a spruce up? It looks, from the back, like something that wouldn't have got planning in Ceaucescu's Romania.

[Villan82]

Seems we are in danger of missing a great opportunity to grab the local kids for a lifetime. Even a bit of news about a stadium expansion would create excitement.

Go back to the beginning of this thread, almost four years ago when we had that news!

I was actually so psyched up for the new stand. I devour that sort of content online and would have been all over it once it started. I really don't think it will happen now for at least 10 years. They have even deleted the render video they used to have up.

[The Edge]

It is pretty clear from these plans that the North Stand is going nowhere any time soon, so I wonder if they might at least do something with the facade?

It's one thing sprucing up the area behind and it creating an, ahem *checks notes* world class social and sporting venue there, but how about a bit of a spruce up? It looks, from the back, like something that wouldn't have got planning in Ceaucescu's Romania.

I'm posting this and not for the first time as a possible solution. I've worked in construction for years occasionally on big renovation projects. I believe there is a quicker solution to NS issues that wouldn't require too much demolition. It could be widened using a steel frame construction which could be partially done while keeping the NS open. At the end of say 2025/26 they could remove the existing "goalpost" design roof then finish the framework and attach the steel frame corners to the current NS upper then put a cantilever roof over the whole thing. The piling could also be done in preparation for the new roof. Much quicker than bulldozing a whole stand and starting from scratch. I'm pretty sure Man U did similar when they attached the corners at the Stretford end. I do admit I'm a humble sparky not an architect but from my experience I do think it's possible. 

[Sexual Ealing]

I was going to say that.

[Beard82]

It is pretty clear from these plans that the North Stand is going nowhere any time soon, so I wonder if they might at least do something with the facade?

It's one thing sprucing up the area behind and it creating an, ahem *checks notes* world class social and sporting venue there, but how about a bit of a spruce up? It looks, from the back, like something that wouldn't have got planning in Ceaucescu's Romania.

I'm posting this and not for the first time as a possible solution. I've worked in construction for years occasionally on big renovation projects. I believe there is a quicker solution to NS issues that wouldn't require too much demolition. It could be widened using a steel frame construction which could be partially done while keeping the NS open. At the end of say 2025/26 they could remove the existing "goalpost" design roof then finish the framework and attach the steel frame corners to the current NS upper then put a cantilever roof over the whole thing. The piling could also be done in preparation for the new roof. Much quicker than bulldozing a whole stand and starting from scratch. I'm pretty sure Man U did similar when they attached the corners at the Stretford end. I do admit I'm a humble sparky not an architect but from my experience I do think it's possible.

Hmm.. steel frame - that should hold. 

[The Edge]

It is pretty clear from these plans that the North Stand is going nowhere any time soon, so I wonder if they might at least do something with the facade?

It's one thing sprucing up the area behind and it creating an, ahem *checks notes* world class social and sporting venue there, but how about a bit of a spruce up? It looks, from the back, like something that wouldn't have got planning in Ceaucescu's Romania.

I'm posting this and not for the first time as a possible solution. I've worked in construction for years occasionally on big renovation projects. I believe there is a quicker solution to NS issues that wouldn't require too much demolition. It could be widened using a steel frame construction which could be partially done while keeping the NS open. At the end of say 2025/26 they could remove the existing "goalpost" design roof then finish the framework and attach the steel frame corners to the current NS upper then put a cantilever roof over the whole thing. The piling could also be done in preparation for the new roof. Much quicker than bulldozing a whole stand and starting from scratch. I'm pretty sure Man U did similar when they attached the corners at the Stretford end. I do admit I'm a humble sparky not an architect but from my experience I do think it's possible.

Hmm.. steel frame - that should hold.

You do know most (all) stands are steel frames with concrete slabs don't you? Next time your walking under the Trinity Rd have a look at what's holding it up.

[VillaTim]

Confirmation in effect we aren't leaving B6 , which is excellent news

[The Edge]

Confirmation in effect we aren't leaving B6 , which is excellent news

Absolutely.

[London Villan]

Confirmation in effect we aren't leaving B6 , which is excellent news

Short term yep, but long term this raises more doubts/questions.

[The Edge]

Confirmation in effect we aren't leaving B6 , which is excellent news

Short term yep, but long term this raises more doubts/questions.

So long as Heck isn't anywhere near the club if and when they make any such decision to move out of B6. With his total lack of understanding for history, tradition and loyalty a new ground could end up being literally anywhere.

[Beard82]

It is pretty clear from these plans that the North Stand is going nowhere any time soon, so I wonder if they might at least do something with the facade?

It's one thing sprucing up the area behind and it creating an, ahem *checks notes* world class social and sporting venue there, but how about a bit of a spruce up? It looks, from the back, like something that wouldn't have got planning in Ceaucescu's Romania.

I'm posting this and not for the first time as a possible solution. I've worked in construction for years occasionally on big renovation projects. I believe there is a quicker solution to NS issues that wouldn't require too much demolition. It could be widened using a steel frame construction which could be partially done while keeping the NS open. At the end of say 2025/26 they could remove the existing "goalpost" design roof then finish the framework and attach the steel frame corners to the current NS upper then put a cantilever roof over the whole thing. The piling could also be done in preparation for the new roof. Much quicker than bulldozing a whole stand and starting from scratch. I'm pretty sure Man U did similar when they attached the corners at the Stretford end. I do admit I'm a humble sparky not an architect but from my experience I do think it's possible.

Hmm.. steel frame - that should hold.

You do know most (all) stands are steel frames with concrete slabs don't you? Next time your walking under the Trinity Rd have a look at what's holding it up.

Ha sorry - it was a joke. I know nothing about construction and was just trying to do the sage nod to say “yeah I’d of done it like that”.  Like when my brother in law who’s a builder explains how he’s approached a complex job - and I make sounds that are meant to indicate that’s what I would have done.  Even though I have no fucking idea

[VillaTim]

Their owners own the new Co-op live one that had since teething issues but that's 20k ish capacity I think.

Sorry, the Oak View Group (OVG) own Co-op Live and it has a 23.5 K capacity. Been there twice and a big improvement on the AO Arena in Manchester - Even a Co-op local shop inside to get reasonably priced sandwiches, drinks etc.

Harry Styles is a significant investor/owner