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Offline Bent Neilsens Screamer

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3510 on: February 19, 2023, 09:48:10 AM »
No respect for those handing over the trophy or the host nation.

It was a spur of the moment thing but I’m not sure the Qataris are deserving of that much respect.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3511 on: February 19, 2023, 09:57:13 AM »
I disagree, when you are shipping goals left right and center it doesn't help to give the opposition another one for free. Emery is right, the amount of goals keepers have scored through history is miniscule. This is a very, very, very low percentage play and if it's something he's not been told to do I understand why Emery, who was already angry at players not carrying out instructions. We need to be smarter. We're a proper dummy team at times.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3512 on: February 19, 2023, 10:11:34 AM »
Did Unai say he disagrees with the time wasting? I don’t think I heard that part. If so its not as though he is powerless to do anything about it.

Emi’s distribution yesterday was piss poor, I can’t say I’m that arsed about if he goes up for that corner or not, it’s a stick or twist scenario. More of a concern was having a left footer curl the ball away from where all our players were massing, shite.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3513 on: February 19, 2023, 10:43:26 AM »
I was half expecting the Digne corner to go out of play then back in to be honest as that would be typical Villa.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3514 on: February 19, 2023, 10:44:41 AM »
Did Unai say he disagrees with the time wasting? I don’t think I heard that part...
Yes, heard it on an interview with Bein.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3515 on: February 19, 2023, 10:57:43 AM »
We're going through a shitty run but I find it bizarre that people are calling him a clown and saying get rid. Other than maybe 4 teams in the league he'd go straight into the starting 11 of all the others. Of all the names that have been been mentioned, he's better than all of them. Pickford, Raya, Henderson, that shitty kid at Leeds, he pisses all over all of them.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3516 on: February 19, 2023, 10:59:20 AM »
We're going through a shitty run but I find it bizarre that people are calling him a clown and saying get rid.
Is this your first week on here? He'll be the best GK in the World again in 2 weeks.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3517 on: February 19, 2023, 11:01:20 AM »
I’d say only the Man City goalie is superior, I’d have him over Allison at Liverpool and everyone else.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3518 on: February 19, 2023, 11:07:09 AM »
He's brilliant and I hope we keep him, but I think he needs to tone down the attitude just a tiny bit and concentrate on his job. It feels like he's losing that laser-focus a bit, by overdoing the time-wasting and  generally being a bit too cocky. His distribution has been crap lately.

Still, better to have an over-confident goalie than a shitting puppy, I guess.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3519 on: February 19, 2023, 11:09:12 AM »
No respect for those handing over the trophy or the host nation.

It was a spur of the moment thing but I’m not sure the Qataris are deserving of that much respect.

I would have preferred him not doing it but I'm not too bothered about it. But it was not a spur of the moment thing which he has admitted himself. He did it at Copa too and was basically in a bet with his team mates about whether he'd dare to do it again at the World Cup.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3520 on: February 19, 2023, 11:11:59 AM »
We're going through a shitty run but I find it bizarre that people are calling him a clown and saying get rid.
Is this your first week on here? He'll be the best GK in the World again in 2 weeks.

No, but even by the usual over reactions this one is uber bizarre.

He's earned us many, many more points than he's cost us. He's our best player IMO and would be the hardest to replace by a long shot.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3521 on: February 19, 2023, 11:58:57 AM »
Well there’s an obvious answer to that, it’s clearly a massive risk. The key point here is that if you’re losing and injury time is already up what does it matter? If there’s the slightest chance it might help why not give it a shot? It’s obviously incredibly unlikely to result in a goal, but it does happen. Worst case scenario you concede another goal, but so what you’re already going to lose if you don’t score.

That’s my take on it too. It’s the equivalent of the ‘Hail Mary’ it comes off or it doesn’t.

It's perfectly understandable to see a keeper go up for a corner or free kick in the last minute or two of a cup game, where you're about to go out, or in a league game that has a huge amount riding on it (last game of the season, and you need a point for Europe, for example).  But in a league game in mid Feb? Absolutely not.  If the third goal hadn't gone in off his head, and it wasn't against this old team, I don't think he goes up for that corner. I think it was a rush of blood based on his 'own goal' and the hope he could correct what he sees as a mistake.

If Jorginho's goal went straight in the top corner, he's doesn't go up for that corner. How many times have we been a goal down in the last minute with an attacking set piece or the chance to put it in the mixer? How many times has he done it before?

I'm amazed no one from the bench stopped him after he crossed the halfway line.

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3522 on: February 19, 2023, 12:27:19 PM »
No respect for those handing over the trophy or the host nation.

It was a spur of the moment thing but I’m not sure the Qataris are deserving of that much respect.

I would have preferred him not doing it but I'm not too bothered about it. But it was not a spur of the moment thing which he has admitted himself. He did it at Copa too and was basically in a bet with his team mates about whether he'd dare to do it again at the World Cup.

I stand corrected then!!

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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3523 on: February 19, 2023, 12:28:27 PM »
When I read that Emery had called him out for going up for the corner I thought it was probably just an offhand comment that didn’t mean to much

But when I saw the interview on match of the day he was proper pissed off with him


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Re: Emiliano Martinez - World Cup winner
« Reply #3524 on: February 19, 2023, 12:36:51 PM »
One thing I slightly disagree with Emery about is that it's not just about the goalkeeper scoring, but creating confusion in the box as there's someone unmarked. There has to be a time and a place for it. Liverpool wouldn't have qualified for the Champions League the other year if Allison hadn't come up for a corner against Albion.

 


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